Here's your democratic speaker..........

[The Enigma]

hard core repubs are starting to remind me of communists with their one sided agenda

As a republican (with a brain) it's BEYOND clear that Bloodbath Bush is the WORST president this country has EVER had.

It is..............what it is.

Most republicans can't handle the truth....plain and simple.

[George Stinky Bush]

under Bush a surplus= deficit
the war costs are not even included
repubs cry that dems want to share the wealth (social programs) however they have no problems spending billions on a war instead of spending the money in our country, what a crock, wellfare for Iraq

[w8tlftr]

Totally brainwashed w/ "Bloodbath" Bush's Koolaid.

And yes..........I too served in Iraq.

Brainwashed? You don't know me, bub. Twelve years in the Navy and my wife just retired after 23 years.

Do you want to go back to Iraq? I bet you don't and I really don't want you or anymore of our men to go back to that craphole either.

We can deal with the Middle East now or later. I'd prefer we nip it in the bud now so that I don't have to send my son there because our government didn't finish the job.

This isn't a Republican or Democrat issue - it's a national security issue.

[w8tlftr]

hard core repubs are starting to remind me of communists with their one sided agenda

The same can be said of "hard core liberals". 

[OzmO]

Brainwashed? You don't know me, bub. Twelve years in the Navy and my wife just retired after 23 years.

Do you want to go back to Iraq? I bet you don't and I really don't want you or anymore of our men to go back to that craphole either.

We can deal with the Middle East now or later. I'd prefer we nip it in the bud now so that I don't have to send my son there because our government didn't finish the job.

This isn't a Republican or Democrat issue - it's a national security issue.

It's a National Security Issue, now, only because of invading Iraq and creating a mess.  And it's will cost the US taxpayers 1 trillion before it's all over.....That's IF we even succeed in stabilizing the place which is looking less likely everyday.

[George Stinky Bush]

The same can be said of "hard core liberals". 

explain.............how?
military response to problems is not a liberal issue, liberals are weak

[The Enigma]

Brainwashed? You don't know me, bub. Twelve years in the Navy and my wife just retired after 23 years.

Do you want to go back to Iraq? I bet you don't and I really don't want you or anymore of our men to go back to that craphole either.

We can deal with the Middle East now or later. I'd prefer we nip it in the bud now so that I don't have to send my son there because our government didn't finish the job.

This isn't a Republican or Democrat issue - it's a national security issue.

Oh......the Navy, no wonder.

[24KT]

No typo, Judi. Bush isn't a traitor - Pelosi is.

I guess it all depends on the criteria one uses to make that judgement call now doesn't it? 

You're entitled to your opinion and you're Canadian and never served in the military so I really don't expect you to understand.

You're right I wouldn't. I haven't gone through the indoctrination process, nor am I subjected to the amount of disinformation, blatant lies, and propaganda so many others are subject to, therefore my opinions and thought process may not be as compromised as others'

She's not the Commander in Chief nor is she in charge of United States foreign policy.

She didn't make the trip alone.

Setting a time table to pull out before the mission is complete hands a victory to the enemy.

You mean like Bush did?

Screwing the military out of the required funds to execute their mission is waaaaay over the line.

Ya mean like Bush has threatened to do? Check it again. Bush is the one threatening to veto and cut off the funds. I'm sure the repubs will spin it as Pelosi's doing, ....but if you check you'll see Congress is willing to break open the piggy bank. It is bush who is threatening to veto.

Hell, the libs couldn't even get the votes they needed without bribing their fellow Democrats. Pathetic.

When are you libs going to figure this out? If we don't finish the job now we WILL be back later. Do you guys honestly think the terrorists can be reasoned with? As much as you libs try to appease them they still HATE the west and always will.

Considering what the West is currently doing and attempting to do, I can understand a certain amount of animosity being engendered in the hearts and minds of the civilian populations there. As for the terrorists, ...well as long as there are foreign troops within target range, they certainly have something to do don't they?

Pelosi went over to Syria and got played for a fool. Do you want the United States to turn into the mess England and the rest of Europe is now?

Have you taken a good long look around the US lately? NEWSFLASH: It's already a mess. it's time to clean it up.

You're a smart woman and I like you, Judi, but wake up or get fitted for your burka 'cause they're comin' unless the west does something about it.

I take it you must have gotten the memo then huh? 

[w8tlftr]

Oh......the Navy, no wonder.

Wow... a cheap shot at my military service? What are you twelve?

Grow up, boy. 

[24KT]

Wow... a cheap shot at my military service? What are you twelve?

Grow up, boy. 

oh puleaze w8tlftr... Relax! 
Enigma is just blowing off a little steam cause he wasn't the one chosen to be The Bachelor 
With the type of ad-hom abuse most military types in here love to dish out, his comment is really nothing.

...sides, ...who are YOU to be telling people to grow up? {LOL} That's like Beach Bum calling for maturity,
...or a straight answer to a direct question. {ROTFLMAO}

ps - Hows the commute going these days? 

[w8tlftr]

I guess it all depends on the criteria one uses to make that judgement call now doesn't it? 

Sure does. You have your opinion and I have mine. Always a pleasure to debate with you, Judi. 

You're right I wouldn't. I haven't gone through the indoctrination process, nor am I subjected to the amount of disinformation, blatant lies, and propaganda so many others are subject to, therefore my opinions and thought process may not be as compromised as others'

Hmmm... might have to take back what I said. Are you implying that those that serve in the military are weak minded and brainwashed? Really elitist and beneath you, Judi. I'm disappointed.

She didn't make the trip alone.

No she didn't. Foreign policy isn't in their job description either. They're all guilty.

You mean like Bush did?

Ya mean like Bush has threatened to do? Check it again. Bush is the one threatening to veto and cut off the funds. I'm sure the repubs will spin it as Pelosi's doing, ....but if you check you'll see Congress is willing to break open the piggy bank. It is bush who is threatening to veto.

Considering what the West is currently doing and attempting to do, I can understand a certain amount of animosity being engendered in the hearts and minds of the civilian populations there. As for the terrorists, ...well as long as there are foreign troops within target range, they certainly have something to do don't they?

Bush certainly has f*cked things up but it still doesn't mean we don't have to leave the place in a mess and not fix what has been done. Regardless of which party is in the White House we're still dealing with a bunch of durka durka mohammed jihad assholes that want us all dead and Israel off the map. I don't know about you but I have no plans to convert to Islam or see my wife or daughter in burkas and second class citizens.

As far as Bush's veto is concerned why shouldn't he veto it? The bill was so weak that the Democrats had to buy the votes to get it to pass AND it included a date for troop withdrawl -- stupid. It's like the libs WANT us to lose this war just so Bush can look bad. F*ck the country and American principals. They just want power and back in the White House.

Have you taken a good long look around the US lately? NEWSFLASH: It's already a mess. it's time to clean it up.

Never said the United States was perfect. Still, compared to the countries I've traveled to it's the best by far. Yeah, that includes Canada also. 

[w8tlftr]

oh puleaze w8tlftr... Relax! 
Enigma is just blowing off a little steam cause he wasn't the one chosen to be The Bachelor 
With the type of ad-hom abuse most military types in here love to dish out, his comment is really nothing.

...sides, ...who are YOU to be telling people to grow up? {LOL} That's like Beach Bum calling for maturity,
...or a straight answer to a direct question. {ROTFLMAO}

ps - Hows the commute going these days? 

I draw the line at disrespecting one's military service - especially during wartime. Well, except for the Air Force. I mean, come on! 

The commute still sucks. Driving from Maryland to Northern Virginia is gonna be the death of me.   

[24KT]

Sure does. You have your opinion and I have mine. Always a pleasure to debate with you, Judi. 

Only because I always remember to bring a little KY so you won't hurt as much. 

Hmmm... might have to take back what I said.

Do that, ...and I'll stop bringing the KY.

Are you implying that those that server in the military are weak minded and brainwashed? Really elitist and beneath you, Judi. I'm disappointed.

Are you asking a question... and drawing unwarranted conclusions before the question is even answered?
Not surprising... there's much precedent for that.

No she didn't. Foreign policy isn't in their job description either. They're all guilty.

Bush certainly has f*cked things up but it still doesn't mean we don't have to leave the place in a mess and not fix what has been done. Regardless of which party is in the White House we're still dealing with a bunch of durka durka mohammed jihad assholes that want us all dead and Israel off the map.

I suppose the aggressive illegal invasion of a middle eastern country has nothing to do with that sentiment huh?
I think stability is possible in Iraq, but I doubt it'll ever come at the hands of those who brought the instability.
I was listening to a phone in talk show this afternoon, ...and a Persian Canadian called in. He said he left Iran because he was "Infidel". He opined that he felt Iran, or even possibly Syria, or Saudi Arabia stood a chance of bringing stability to Iraq, but he didn't think the US or Britain could, or that they would ever accept any solution brought about by "Infidels". I have a tendency to agree.

I don't know about you but I have no plans to convert to Islam or see my wife or daughter in burkas and second class citizens.

Me either.

As far as Bush's veto is concerned why shouldn't he veto it? The bill was so weak that the Democrats had to buy the votes to get it to pass AND it included a date for troop withdrawl -- stupid. It's like the libs WANT us to lose this war just so Bush can look bad. F*ck the country and American principals. They just want power and back in the White House.

They'll be back in the White House regardless.

You seriously need to take a much closer look at who's really fvcking the country & American principles

Never said the United States was perfect.  Still, compared to the countries I've traveled to it's the best by far. Yeah, that includes Canada also. 

You must have been visiting Nfld. 

[24KT]

I draw the line at disrespecting one's military service - especially during wartime.

What do you know about Enigma?

Well, except for the Air Force. I mean, come on! 

{giggle} That just made me crack up soo hard.

The commute still sucks. Driving from Maryland to Northern Virginia is gonna be the death of me.   

Ahhhhh ... poor baby.    I suppose this isn't the best time to let you know my commute is 60 second max,
...and I get to do it in my big pink fluffy bunny slippers 

[w8tlftr]

Only because I always remember to bring a little KY so you won't hurt as much. 

Do that, ...and I'll stop bringing the KY.

Hey, you told me that when I "deliver the pizza" that I can just spit on it so you don't get to sore. 

Are you asking a question... and drawing unwarranted conclusions before the question is even answered?
Not surprising... there's much precedent for that.

Just interpreting what you stated. If I was wrong please clarify.

I suppose the aggressive illegal invasion of a middle eastern country has nothing to do with that sentiment huh?
I think stability is possible in Iraq, but I doubt it'll ever come at the hands of those who brought the instability.
I was listening to a phone in talk show this afternoon, ...and a Persian Canadian called in. He said he left Iran because he was "Infidel". He opined that he felt Iran, or even possibly Syria, or Saudi Arabia stood a chance of bringing stability to Iraq, but he didn't think the US or Britain could, or that they would ever accept any solution brought about by "Infidels". I have a tendency to agree.

Illegal invasion. Saddam flipped off the nutless UN for 12 years violating sanction after sanction. Bush gets approval to use military force from Congress and the UN Security councel and it's illegal. Tell me, if he's a war criminal why isn't he in custody and on trial for his alleged crimes? And for that matter why isn't Clinton in prison for attacking Serbia?

In regards to Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Syria. What sort of "stability" do you think they'll bring to the region? The kind that is in the best interest of the west or in the best interest of durka durka mohammed jihad facists and those that will kiss their asses (insert France, Germany, and Russia)?

They'll be back in the White House regardless.

That remains to be seen but Obama and Hillary just don't measure up. Still, it will be fun to watch. I think the Democrats are in a state of disarray and what they're doing is gonna come back and bite them in the ass.

You seriously need to take a much closer look at who's really fvcking the country & American principles

I have and, IMO, it's the liberals trying to turn America into a socialist utopia. Gun restrictions, eminent domain, high taxes, universal health care, etc. I can go on and on.

You must have been visiting Nfld. 

New Brunswick. 

Fvcking French-Canadians. 

[w8tlftr]

What do you know about Enigma?

Nothing. Then again, I don't recall belittling his military service either.

{giggle} That just made me crack up soo hard.

Yeah, well... it's the Air Force. 

Ahhhhh ... poor baby.    I suppose this isn't the best time to let you know my commute is 60 second max,
...and I get to do it in my big pink fluffy bunny slippers 

 

Oh yeah? Well, I get to.... drive... and sit in traffic... damn it.

[w8tlftr]

explain.............how?
military response to problems is not a liberal issue, liberals are weak

I agree. Liberals are weak.

[240 is Back]

but her continued attacks on my country

Please list them.

[w8tlftr]

It's a National Security Issue, now, only because of invading Iraq and creating a mess.  And it's will cost the US taxpayers 1 trillion before it's all over.....That's IF we even succeed in stabilizing the place which is looking less likely everyday.

It's been a national security issue for a while now, Oz.

It's the wests own damn fault for empowering those assholes by our addiction to fossil fuel.

[militarymuscle69]

Please list them.

Didn't I answer you yesterday?

[240 is Back]

Didn't I answer you yesterday?

your name isn't headhunter6.

headhunter6 said that pelosi has continually attacked his country.

i asked headhunter6 to list these attacks upon the United States.

[militarymuscle69]

your name isn't headhunter6.

headhunter6 said that pelosi has continually attacked his country.

i asked headhunter6 to list these attacks upon the United States.

That is like him asking you to list the attacks you think Bush has made on the US. They are all a person't opinion

[240 is Back]

That is like him asking you to list the attacks you think Bush has made on the US. They are all a person't opinion

I asked him to list those things which he considers attacks, by Pelosi, on our country.

I don't know why you have to keep answering for him - when he logs on, I am sure he will list the attakcs Pelosi has made on his country.  It really has nothing to do with you.

[The Enigma]

Wow... a cheap shot at my military service? What are you twelve?

Grow up, boy. 

No cheap shot......the truth hurts.

While I'm on the ground  "in theater" dealing w/ amputated limbs and dead GI's.......your on the big "fishing boat" in the Gulf, thanking the Good Lord you decided to join the Navy.

Assuming you ever made it to the Gulf........which I seriously doubt.

Navy punks like yourself, have NO IDEA what's happening on the ground, so STFU.

Your opinion on this madeup BS war........is meaningless.

[24KT]

Hey, you told me that when I "deliver the pizza" that I can just spit on it so you don't get to sore. 

Just interpreting what you stated. If I was wrong please clarify.

You are wrong, but I can't be bothered to clarify.

In regards to Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Syria. What sort of "stability" do you think they'll bring to the region? The kind that is in the best interest of the west or in the best interest of durka durka mohammed jihad facists and those that will kiss their asses (insert France, Germany, and Russia)?

At this juncture, I'm guessing the kind that won't have their children being blown to tiny little pieces, the kind that doesn't have the blood of their citizens flowing in the streets. The way people describe America's best interests, one could get the impression that oil comes from blood that has seeped into the ground. 

America's best interests are served by having a stable, safe prosperous society, not one riddled in debt, locked down on all sides, with enemies wanting to attack her. That interest is served with stability in all regions of the planet.

That remains to be seen but Obama and Hillary just don't measure up. Still, it will be fun to watch. I think the Democrats are in a state of disarray and what they're doing is gonna come back and bite them in the ass.

From my perspective, it's the Repubs who are divided... but hey, we'll see.

I have and, IMO, it's the liberals trying to turn America into a socialist utopia. Gun restrictions, eminent domain, high taxes, universal health care, etc. I can go on and on.

Ha! You think you can keep going like this? Wait til the bill comes in? It might all come in at once.
And is universal health care really so bad?

New Brunswick. 

Fvcking French-Canadians. 

Close enough to Nfld to be Nfld, ...

ps the French Canadians are mainly in Quebec.
pps - What would ever possess you to go to New Brunswick?