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Re: Strawman
« Reply #1500 on: May 17, 2021, 02:33:17 PM »

funky41 , who is older U or Mr.Gulliani   ;D

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« Reply #1501 on: May 17, 2021, 03:26:12 PM »
Monday am - and the neighbors are still furious.  Straw is melting down over Trump while the roachs, rats, and racoons are all swarming about the property eating the trash.

Michelle Obama finally feels at home.  Rosie is coming to make a nest.  Michael Moore is coming to squat in the dump. 

And the pride parade and BLM are about to have dueling parades all over the burnout lawn and trash strewn about.   
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« Reply #1502 on: May 17, 2021, 11:22:54 PM »
No..it shouldn’t have. Period

Lets discuss. Early on as the daily cases were growing and the daily death count rising, by almost all accounts if not all accounts our hospitals were concerned that they did not have the capacity to treat serious COVID patients if the numbers continued to climb. As they climbed, mandates were being put in place to slow the spread in order to allow resources to be put in place and hospitals the needed time to gear up and prepare. Also if I recall the mandates did slow the climb. If nothing was done, I don't see how you could possibly explain that it wouldn't have been more detrimental, causing many more unnecessary deaths.  Are you suggesting that taking measures to reduce the infections had no impact? Can you offer some support for that opinion?

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« Reply #1503 on: May 18, 2021, 01:12:16 AM »
Lets discuss. Early on as the daily cases were growing and the daily death count rising, by almost all accounts if not all accounts our hospitals were concerned that they did not have the capacity to treat serious COVID patients if the numbers continued to climb. As they climbed, mandates were being put in place to slow the spread in order to allow resources to be put in place and hospitals the needed time to gear up and prepare. Also if I recall the mandates did slow the climb. If nothing was done, I don't see how you could possibly explain that it wouldn't have been more detrimental, causing many more unnecessary deaths.  Are you suggesting that taking measures to reduce the infections had no impact? Can you offer some support for that opinion?

In NYS Cuomo was given all the resources he needed and never used them.  Instead he killed 15000 seniors. 

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« Reply #1504 on: May 18, 2021, 07:18:30 AM »
HAHAHA I take a few days away to go fish in the Keys and come back and this thread is still full of Trumpturd stupidity. 

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« Reply #1505 on: May 18, 2021, 07:29:56 AM »
Lets discuss. Early on as the daily cases were growing and the daily death count rising, by almost all accounts if not all accounts our hospitals were concerned that they did not have the capacity to treat serious COVID patients if the numbers continued to climb. As they climbed, mandates were being put in place to slow the spread in order to allow resources to be put in place and hospitals the needed time to gear up and prepare. Also if I recall the mandates did slow the climb. If nothing was done, I don't see how you could possibly explain that it wouldn't have been more detrimental, causing many more unnecessary deaths.  Are you suggesting that taking measures to reduce the infections had no impact? Can you offer some support for that opinion?

This was the "two weeks to flatten the curve", so as not to overwhelm the hospitals.

Made sense.  Entirely rational.

It's just that the messaging after that became wildly inconsistent - more lockdowns, Walmart = OK :: Church = not ok,  Protests = OK :: outdoor gatherings = not.....no mask/mask....

And the reality was that they should have not locked down, sent more people outside where it's healthy to get vitamin D, and should have used this to message personal accountability around increasing metabolic health - losing weight, not eating shit, getting moving, etc.....but nope.
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« Reply #1506 on: May 18, 2021, 11:13:07 AM »
funky41 , who is older U or Mr.Gulliani   ;D
                 
    rudy g by over 7 years. how old are you junior.
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« Reply #1507 on: May 18, 2021, 11:14:55 AM »
A History Lesson In Bodybuilding
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July 16, 2019 •  13 min read
Find out how bodybuilding has evolved over the years, broken down by different eras!

The physical culture of muscle-building has attracted followers for many years; well before the advent of competitive bodybuilding as we know it today.

Followers of the iron game will know that bodybuilding in its popular form began in earnest in the 1890s with the arrival of Mr. Eugene Sandow, whom the Mr. Olympia statue is modelled on.

However, weight training as a general athletic activity was initially practiced as a means to gain strength and measure power in ancient Egyptian and Greek societies. These societies would primarily use stones of various sizes and weights (a practice that would occur in one form or another throughout history) in their quest for body transformation. The celebration of the human body through muscular development was, in fact, one of the Greek ideals.

Physical culture (distinguishable from bodybuilding per se due to the lack of specific physical display as an end goal) can be traced back to 11th century India where stone dumbbell weights, known as Nals, were lifted by those wanting to develop their bodies to enhance health and stamina to help overcome the challenges of daily life. Gyms were commonplace in India during this period, and by the 16th century, weight training is thought to have been India's national pastime.

There was to be a long period between the 16th century physical movement in India and the beginning of bodybuilding (defined as training and dieting to develop one's body specifically for exhibitive purposes) as we know it today.

THE EARLY PERIOD 1890-1929
Eugene SandowEUGENE SANDOW
Toward the end of the 19th century, weight-training took on a new meaning for many, as the ancient tradition of stone-lifting, practiced initially by the Greeks and Egyptians, made way for a completely new system of training, with a new end-goal. Weightlifting for entertainment purposes emerged in Europe, signalling the beginning of a physical culture never before seen.

The intention was not to develop one's physique into a glorious spectacle per se, but to thrill crowds with amazing feats of strength—the professional strongman was the outcome of this intensified interest in weight-training. The modern sport of weightlifting was somewhat of a natural evolution from the comparatively primitive practice of stone-lifting in dark, dank dungeons.

Not surprisingly, weightlifting exponentially grew in popularity so much so that today the practices during the early period of 1890 to 1929 would seem, at best, archaic. The practices of the late 19th century strongmen included issuing challenges to fellow strongmen to see who could outlift the other as they traveled from town to town.

Other practices included pulling carts and lifting animals, much to the amusement of onlookers. The public loved to watch these men compete, possibly for the novelty value if nothing else. How their physiques looked did not factor into these men's displays of physical prowess. Indeed, a protruding stomach and thick, fatty limbs were commonplace among these competitors.

Symmetry and aesthetics were a foreign concept at this point. However, as the 20th century approached, a man who was to bridge the gap between the overweight and unsightly strongman and the bodybuilder as we know him today was to emerge.

Officially know as the first famous bodybuilder and the father of modern bodybuilding, Eugene Sandow (born Friedrich Muller), born in 1867, immediately became a phenomenon with his unprecedented combination of muscle quality and strength. He became a turn-of-the-century physical cultural icon who is referred to as one of bodybuilding's greatest, even in today's climate of genetic freaks.

Before the emergence of Sandow, proponents of physical culture were trying to find new ways to promote healthy lifestyles in line with the new phenomenon of weight training for the sake of physical demonstration. Tired of the overweight strongman image with its lack of emphasis on correct eating and high body-fat levels, they were looking for a representative who could promote the chiseled physique, and the subsequent ways of achieving this look. They found their man in Sandow.

Officially known as the first famous bodybuilder and the father of modern bodybuilding, Eugene Sandow, born 1867, immediately became a phenomenon.

"OFFICIALLY KNOWN AS THE FIRST FAMOUS BODYBUILDER AND THE FATHER OF MODERN BODYBUILDING, EUGENE SANDOW, BORN 1867, IMMEDIATELY BECAME A PHENOMENON."
Sandow himself started out in Europe as a professional strongman, outdoing all other strongmen to make a name for himself. He traveled to America in the 1890s to be billed as the world's strongest man, travelling the country and impressing people with his extraordinary feats of strength.

The most amazing thing about Sandow, however, was his beautifully symmetrical and densely muscular physique, which eventually positioned him as the first real bodybuilder and promoter of bodybuilding. Indeed, Sandow published the first bodybuilding magazine (Physical Culture), developed some of the first bodybuilding machinery, and appeared in numerous books and postcards, while continuing to tour America posing to sold-out audiences.

While Sandow continued to promote bodybuilding, weight-lifting contests were officially held for the first time with the World Championships in England in 1891. Weightlifting was also featured in the first modern Olympic Games in 1896, in Athens, Greece. Due to Sandow's influence, sales of barbells and dumbbells increased by a wide margin, and a whole bodybuilding industry was created, with Sandow earning thousands of dollars a week.

Sadly, Sandow suffered a fatal brain hemorrhage when, according to legend, he tried to pull his car from a ditch in the interests of physical display. Sandow's legacy lives on in the increasing popularization of bodybuilding as a sport into the 21st century. Sandow judged the first bodybuilding contest ever held, and his image is immortalized on the current Mr. Olympia statue.

THE FIRST BODYBUILDING CONTEST EVER HELD
THE QUALITIES SANDOW LOOKED FOR
General development
Equality or balance of development
The condition and tone of the tissues
General health
Condition of the skin
The first bodybuilding show, staged in 1891 and billed as "The Great Show," was developed and promoted by none other than the great Eugene Sandow.

After popularizing bodybuilding though frequent strength exhibitions and posing displays across Europe and America, Sandow, 34, decided, after three years of planning, that the time was right. He would provide all Sandow students in the U.K with the opportunity to display their physiques in a competition setting replete with a full judging panel and paying audience.

The contest was advertised three years in advance in the first edition of Sandow's magazine to promote the further spread of physical display and pride in one's physique. "To afford encouragement to those who are anxious to perfect their physiques," was the statement issued, and many enthusiasts took this sentiment to heart, as exemplified by the large turnout of contestants and sold-out crowd of 2000.

The total prize money came to 1,000 guineas, which equated to more than $5,000 at the time. First place would receive the equivalent of $2,500 and a gold Sandow statuette, while second and third would take home silver and bronze statuettes respectively.

In 1901, the first ever bodybuilding contest was held at England's Royal Albert Hall"IN 1901, THE FIRST EVER BODYBUILDING CONTEST WAS HELD AT ENGLAND'S ROYAL ALBERT HALL."
In order to compete in this contest of contests, all competitors first had to have placed in a smaller regional show—a bold move on Sandow's part at the time. However, this system proved viable, and on Saturday, September 14, 1901, England's Royal Albert Hall was packed to overflowing with spectators and competitors. Sandow believed in giving his audience their money's worth, and provided various athletic displays as a form of precompetition entertainment.

These displays included wrestling, gymnastics, and fencing, and, at their completion, the real athletes, the bodybuilders, made their entrance. The bodybuilders, of which there were 60, marched to the beat of Sandow's own composition, The March of the Athletes, wearing the required costume: black tights, black jockey belt, and leopard skins.

As for the physiques, the paying public was highly impressed. One journalist remarked, "To stand in these men's ranks is a distinction."

The judging criteria was stringent, and Sandow made it clear that points would be awarded for attributes other than sheer size. Indeed, Sandow was looking for symmetrically even development—the qualities that many say are overlooked in bodybuilding today.

The man judged to have had the right combination of all of these qualities was William L. Murray of Nottingham, Great Britain, who took home the gold Sandow and the title: Winner Of The World's First Big Bodybuilding Contest.

Following this contest, bodybuilding culture became increasingly widespread. Many entrepreneurs seized upon the notion of physical development, and began distributing bodybuilding equipment and literature. Bernarr Macfadden, who became referred to as the father of physical culture, sold his popular chest expander and went on to become one of the greatest physical identities on the early 20th century.

He published one of the first bodybuilding magazines, "Physical Culture," and eventually became the most successful magazine publisher ever. In 1921, Macfadden helped to push another major protagonist for the physical movement,Charles Atlas, into the spotlight.

The First Bodybuilding Contest Ever Held
Well-developed for that time, but smooth and underdeveloped by today's standards, Atlas (Real name Angelo Siciliano) became immensely popular and, through his standing as an expert on physical development, acquired the rights to a mail-order course called dynamic tension, an exercise system developed by Macfadden 20 years earlier.

The advertisements featuring the young man getting sand kicked into his face, only to retreat into a world of physical self-development, and eventually turn the tables on his bullying perpetrator, served as inspiration for many who took up bodybuilding upon seeing them. This advertisement is thought to be part of the most successful advertising campaign in history.

By the end of the 1920s, barbells, dumbbells and various other exercise devices were sold the world over as the general public grew to acknowledge the importance of becoming fit and strong. Famous bodybuilders were becoming household names, and bodybuilding contests were being held frequently. Bodybuilding finally broke free of the association with weightlifting for the purposes of getting strong, and became, for many, a worthwhile pursuit in its own right.

THE CULTURE SOLIDIFIES 1930-1970S
The Culture Solidifies
As the bodybuilding movement progressed into the 1930s, adherents were becoming more interested in developing balanced physiques and losing body fat as training techniques and new developments in exercise equipment advanced. The '30s were the beginning of what is affectionately know as the golden age of bodybuilding, where gyms and the associated practices of training in groups and posing in front of mirrors become commonplace among followers.

On the California Coast, weightlifting on the beachfront became popular among both amateur and professional bodybuilders. The most famous of these hangouts was situated in Santa Monica, and was called Muscle Beach.

Bodybuilding competition intensified when the AAU (the Amateur Athletic Union) established the Mr. America in 1939, where participants, although not strictly bodybuilders, were required to demonstrate athletic skills. These competitors were advised to get into the best possible shape to increase their chances of winning, and the more they trained specifically to improve their bodies, the bigger the weight-training emphasis became.

By 1940, the first modern bodybuilding event had arrived, the Mr. America, which was won by John Grimek, who also won it the following year. Grimek, unparalleled in muscular development up until that point, became the catalyst for a new direction in physical improvement. As bodybuilding became more popular, the quality of physique improved.

With physiques arguably more impressive than Grimek, Clancy Ross and Steve Reeves made their mark in the '40s. Ross won the Mr. America in 1945, and many believe him to have been the first modern bodybuilder, although at this time bodybuilding was still regarded with skepticism by many.

However, Steve Reeves came along and further popularized bodybuilding due to his movie star looks and perfectly proportioned physique. Reeves eventually became revered as the greatest bodybuilder of all time after winning the Mr. America and the Mr. Universe (the other big contest to have sprung up in light of the success of Mr. America). He went on to become one of the first heroic movie stars, gaining a fan base of thousands.

Other bodybuilders, such as Reg Park, followed Reeves' example, and became great champions. Bodybuilding was truly developing at an exponential rate with the IFBB (the International Federation of Bodybuilders) being formed by Ben Weider in 1946 and NABBA (the National Amateur Bodybuilders Association) being formed in England in 1950.

THE GREAT FRANK ZANE, BILL PEARL, AND SERGIO OLIVA.
THE GREAT FRANK ZANE, BILL PEARL, AND SERGIO OLIVA.
The first large-scale bodybuilding competitions were held by these organizations: the Mr. Olympia in 1965 by the IFBB and the Mr. Universe in 1950 by NABBA. The 1960s marked the period during which the most influential bodybuilder of all time would make his mark. Arnold Schwarzenegger beat Dennis Tinereno for the Mr. America title in 1967 and immediately began dominating the international competition. He would go on to win Mr. Universe on five occasions and Mr. Olympia seven times.

The Mr. Olympia had been won first by Larry Scott in 1965, who went on to win again in '66. Sergio Oliva won in '67, '68 and '69. Arnold cemented his spot as the number one bodybuilder in the world by winning the Olympia for the next five years straight, and again in 1980. He would also conquer the movie world, becoming a Hollywood star.

As bodybuilding increased in popularity into the 1970s, Arnold and other superstars such as three-time Mr. Olympia winner Frank Zane, Dave Draper, and Mike Mentzer became household names. The movie industry often specifically targeted muscular actors, such was the marketability of this type of physique. As the muscular body became more desirable, the gym industry gained momentum, and the industry as a whole became lucrative.

THE ONE, THE ONLY—LARRY SCOTT.
THE ONE, THE ONLY—LARRY SCOTT.
In the 1970s, the IFBB rose to prominence as the dominant bodybuilding organization. Toward the end of this period, the IFBB consisted of more than 100 member countries, and had become the sixth-largest sporting federation in the world.

Bodybuilding was regarded as a legitimate sport, had become a multibillion-dollar-industry and had adherents in all major countries.

BODYBUILDING'S RECENT HISTORY 1980-PRESENT TIME
By the 1980s, bodybuilding had become a popular sport with great crossover appeal. Film stars and athletes from many sports were increasingly using bodybuilding to improve their marketability and performance. Actors like Sylvester Stallone and Chuck Norris had become noticeably more muscular, as had athletes Ben Johnson and Carl Lewis, for example.

The practices of weight training and dieting, so central to the bodybuilding ethos, had clearly been adopted by mainstream society to increase profile and enhance performance.

Competitive bodybuilders were also becoming more muscular as an increasing emphasis on size dictated a more extreme approach to physical development. Anabolic steroids had been used during the '60s, and their use correspondingly increased as bodybuilding grew in popularity.

Prize money, sponsorships, and endorsements had increased due to the growth of the bodybuilding industry, and had become a major motivating factor for many entering the sport.

A general trend in aesthetics and balance gave way to a mass-at-all-costs approach, and top placers were generally those carrying the most size, especially into the '90s and beyond 2000.

Although steroids were used prior to the '80s, the stacking of various types of steroids (using more than one at any one time) and use of dangerous growth hormones and insulin were becoming commonplace as the '80s drew to a close.

Amateurs and professionals alike engaged in this disturbing trend, with the intention of making a name for themselves and increasing their earning potential.

Indeed, with the increase in competing bodybuilders came increased competition among these athletes.

This would mean a great bodybuilder would have to become greater to distance themselves from the closest rival, who would be taking the same extreme approach to developing their physique.

As the '90s approached, the quality of physique improved due to advances in training techniques, dietary strategies, and, yes, drugs. The '80s witnessed the rise of Lee Haney, who won seven Mr. Olympia's. His physique at around 240 pounds had surpassed any other bodybuilder up until that point.

By the 1980s, Film stars and athletes from many sports were increasingly using bodybuilding to improve their marketability and performance.
"BY THE 1980S, FILM STARS AND ATHLETES FROM MANY SPORTS WERE INCREASINGLY USING BODYBUILDING TO IMPROVE THEIR MARKETABILITY AND PERFORMANCE."
When he retired, Haney had beaten Arnold's record of six Olympias, and in the eyes of many, surpassed him in terms of muscular development.

Other notable bodybuilders of this period were Lee Labrada, (one of the few successful under-200-pound professional bodybuilders due to his classical symmetry and presentation skills), Vince Taylor, Shawn Ray, and Mike Quinn. Shawn Ray would go on to compete throughout the '90s, placing highly in every Olympia he entered.

The '90s could truly be defined as the era where competitors demonstrated a leap forward in terms of muscle mass. Dorian Yates won five Mr. Olympias between 1992 and 1997, and heralded a new benchmark in mass at 265 pounds ripped.

In fact, all professional bodybuilders of this era demonstrated a distinctly different, more massively defined physique to that of the '80s, as extreme practices prevailed. And just when everyone thought that Yates had redefined the massive physique, along came a man who would surpass him by at least 20 pounds.

Ronnie Coleman routinely competed at around 290 pounds, and took the competition physique beyond what was, up until 10 years ago, thought possible. Co-competitors Jay Cutler and Dexter Jackson also competed light years ahead of anything seen throughout the '80s and '90s.

Legendary bodybuilder Arnold Schwarzenegger played an active role in bodybuilding's development throughout the '90s and beyond. He began promoting the Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic bodybuilding championships in 1989, a contest that gradually incorporated other fitness-related events to become one of the most popular athletic events in the world.

In the '90s, Arnold became the Chairman for the President's Council on Fitness, and used bodybuilding-related practices to inspire the American public to get fit and active.

Bodybuilding also became popularized through various media publications, most notably Muscle and Fitness (spawned from '60s publication Muscle Builder and Power) which hit the stands in 1980, and its offshoot, Flex magazine, released in 1983.

In 2004, Arnold Schwarzenegger became the executive editor of both Muscle and Fitness and Flex Magazine, magazines he appeared on the cover of 30 and 20 times respectively.

Media across the board have seized the opportunity to capitalize on bodybuilding's success. Pay-per-view have broadcast the Mr. Olympia while programs promoting the bodybuilding lifestyle such as Cory Everson's show on ESPN gained momentum.

ARNOLD AT THE 2004 MR. OLYMPIA CONTEST WITH RONNIE COLEMAN.
ARNOLD AT THE 2004 MR. OLYMPIA CONTEST WITH RONNIE COLEMAN.
The Internet has also exploded with thousand of bodybuilding sites, many very professionally done, with worldwide followings. Bodybuilding.com ranks as probably the biggest and best of these, with thousand of articles and information on all aspects of the sport.

Bodybuilding clearly has come a long way since its primitive beginnings, back in the early 1890s. Its popularity cannot be denied, and it will continue to grow if its current rate of growth is anything to go by. However, with the number of professional shows increasing coupled with the availability of an increasing array of sophisticated performance enhancing drugs (and other substances such as synthanol and implants (Lou Feriggno)) the actual sport of bodybuilding will probably continue to be characterized as a curiosity of physical extremes.

On the other hand, bodybuilding also has a growing natural movement where competitors compete free of potentially harmful substances, and enjoy corresponding health benefits.

Ultimately, the practices of weight training and eating a balanced diet, central to bodybuilding success at all levels, will enhance the lives of many. In this respect, bodybuilding can be seen in a positive light, as a beneficial sport.

On the competitive side, many bodybuilders will continue to use drugs to enhance their chances of winning. As to the future of the sport, only time will tell.
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« Reply #1508 on: May 18, 2021, 12:51:37 PM »
Hopefully Straw is spending his time away from this thread cleaning up the trash and the garbage dump so the neighbors are not poisoned by toxic fumes and hazardous waste. 

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« Reply #1509 on: May 18, 2021, 03:37:58 PM »
Hopefully Straw is spending his time away from this thread cleaning up the trash and the garbage dump so the neighbors are not poisoned by toxic fumes and hazardous waste. 


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« Reply #1510 on: May 18, 2021, 06:14:07 PM »
HAHAHA I take a few days away to go fish in the Keys and come back and this thread is still full of Trumpturd stupidity.
Did you ??? What did you catch?
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« Reply #1511 on: May 18, 2021, 06:19:42 PM »
Did you ??? What did you catch?

I'm thinkin' it's the new strain of the "LemonAIDS".   ;D

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« Reply #1512 on: May 18, 2021, 06:22:05 PM »
I'm thinkin' it's the new strain of the "LemonAIDS".   ;D
I assume lurkingformen is the kind of guy that has the deckhand cast his line for him.
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« Reply #1513 on: May 18, 2021, 06:37:36 PM »
I assume lurkingformen is the kind of guy that has the deckhand cast his line for him.

Yup.  In a  kinda sorta reacharound "cast" way.   I would bet his mother stapled her cuntlette shut once he queefed out.

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« Reply #1514 on: May 18, 2021, 06:43:08 PM »


A History Lesson In Bodybuilding
David Robs



.....Arnold Schwarzenegger beat Dennis Tinereno for the Mr. America title in 1967 .....................




B U L L S H I T !.

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« Reply #1515 on: May 19, 2021, 10:28:41 AM »

B U L L S H I T !.

Eat shit funk41 !.
[/quote         ]idiot who wrote it meant the nabba mr universe. on to page 62
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« Reply #1516 on: May 19, 2021, 10:32:13 AM »
      two of my trumptard friends who followed his advices...On Wednesday I took a stress test with my cardiologist and on Monday I see the pulmonary doctor. These are all results of Covid that I had back in November. I was hospitalized after the third time visiting an emergency room, and finally on Thanksgiving day they decided to admit me to the hospital only after my PCP called and told them they had no choice but to admit me. I ran a fever of 104 for almost 14 days! Passed out on my kitchen floor banged my head pretty bad and had a big lump on my head. I went to the emergency room was turned away after five hours and told to go home and take 1500 mg of Tylenol every four hours and every six hours to ibuprofen. If I wasn’t feeling any better I was supposed to come back. On Thanksgiving day my son took me to the hospital because I was not doing any better and that was within a week of being in the hospital the first time. They turned me away I told me I tested positive for Covid and I had to go home call my PCP and if they wanted me admitted they would have to make those arrangements! Can you believe it? Can you believe that I was there a week before and they knew I had tested positive for Covid and sent me home after five hours with those ridiculous instructions and then I come back a week later and I turned away again and I had to call my PCP in order to get me into the emergency room. By the time they admitted me and put me in an intensive care room it could’ve been almost too late for me because the doctor already told me that if I did not respond to the medication that they were ordering he wanted to know if I wanted to be kept on life-support! Today I am struggling with her left eye that we are doctoring for a partial detachment of my retina due to running a fever for 14 days and then passing out hitting my head on the floor, I’m seeing a pulmonary specialist because I have a hard time breathing now I cannot wear a mask on my face for any length of time, and I’m seeing a cardiologist!! My cardiologist told me under no circumstances should I be putting a mask on my face with all these breathing problems I have going on right now in my life. Secondly he told me no one has the right to ask me if I had shots or not. I have been advised by my family doctor my cardiologist to not take this shot absolutely under no circumstances and I to take this Shot. The cardiologist told me but I and better off than people who have taken two shots. My body has built up it’s on antibodies not just from the Covid but from all the antibiotics plus the remdisavier I was on for five days. He said the fact that I had Covid so bad was my shot and then I was instructed to absolutely not take the shot for fear of having too many antibodies in my system and throwing me into a relapse which could end up killing me. I can’t afford to have Cove it worse than what I did the first time. So I will listen to my specialists and my professionals and not take the advice of Andrew Fauci or Joe sleepy Biden or Tom Wolfe. After all, isn’t that what I pay my health specialist for?    NUMBER 2 trumptard   Maybe you are happy about being vaccinated and I was until this morning. So much for Sleepy Joe saying you don’t need to wear a mask if you had both your shots and it’s more than two weeks after your second shot because most of your big cooperate businesses are still requiring you to wear a mask. So now I understand why people are hesitant to take the shot. What’s the point if you still have to wear a mask. I had Covid and got the shots. Not happy. Will boycott these businesses.    AT FIRST THEY SAID VIRUS WAS A DEMONRAT PLOY TO BEAT TRUMP IN THE 2020 ELECTION
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« Reply #1517 on: May 19, 2021, 10:34:28 AM »

B U L L S H I T !.

Eat shit funk41 !.
[/quote         ]idiot who wrote it meant the nabba mr universe. on to page 62
            1967 Mr Universe - NABBA



Overall Winner Arnold Schwarzenegger

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1     Arnold Schwarzenegger   (Austria)
2     Dennis Tinerino   (United States)
3     Henry Greaves   (Trinidad)
4     Dick Engelbrecht   (South Africa)
5     Michael Callen   (England)
6     Frank Richard   (England)

Medium
1     Albert Beckles   (Barbados)
2     Roy Callendar   (Barbados)
3     Arthur Fairhurst   (England)
4     Bill Whitehead   (England)
5     Roy Perrott   (England)
6     Francois Van Den Berg   (South Africa)

Short
1     John Citrone   (England)
2     Wilfred Sylvester   (St Lucia)
3     Terry Parkinson   (England)
4     Michael Piliotis   (England)
5     Brian House   (England)
6     Harry McFarlane   (Jamaica)

Most Muscular
1     Wilfred Sylvester
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Pearl and Schwarzenegger Win Mr. Universe Titles
By George Greenwood
Editor, Man's World Magazine
THE 19th annual Mr. Universe Contests sponsored by Britain's National Amateur Bodybuilders' Association (NAABA) were staged at London's Victoria Palace Theatre on Saturday, September 23rd.

Nearly 70 of the world's best-built men traveled from various parts of the globe to compete in the amateur and professional classes. Never before was such an array of talent assembled on one stage.

All tickets for the big show were sold out more than two months before the event took place. The theatre was packed to capacity with enthusiasts thronging the gangways. Several hundred optimists, who had hoped to squeeze in, had to be satisfied with listening to the roars of applause as they were unable to gain entry.

As in previous years, the, amateur Mr. Universe Contest was split into three separate classes: class 3 for men up to and including 5'6"; class 2 for men over 5'6" up to 5'9"; class 1 for men over 5'9".

Amateur Class 3 --

Seventeen competitors linde up for the short men's class with representatives from England, St. Lucia, France, Sweden, Singapore, Jamaica, Barbados and Wales. Speculation was rife. Could the current Mr. Britain, Wilfred Sylvester, in superb shape, make it a double? He looked good, in fact, quite fantastic, but was not quite a match for husky John Citrone of England. John at 5'4" has 18" upper arms and a 47" chest with other measurements to match. Very muscular and very strong, he is perhaps one of the most popular bodybuilders in Britain today.

Amateur Class 2 --

This class also had 17 entries with men from Germany, South Africa, Belgium, Spain, Norway, England, Malta, Barbados, Sweden, Holland, Italy and Wales. Muscular sensation, Albert Beccles of Barbados, took first place, with Roy Callandar, also of Barbados, second. Third position went to Arthur Fairhurst of England. Albert Beccles has simply superb definition with upper arms taping 19". His physique resembles that of the great Melvin Wells. A worthy victor indeed!

Amateur Class 1 --

Eleven giants from South Africa, India, England, Jamaica, Scotland, Trinidad, Mexico, Austria and U.S.A. made a spectacle worth traveling a long way to see. Current Mr. America, Dennis Tinerino was a big favourite, but the question was, could he defeat the young Austrian giant, Arnold Schwarzenegger? Arnold, in the best shape of his short but brilliant career, proved too good for everyone. He carried off the Class 1 title and was nominated Amateur Mr. Universe 1967. Just look at his measurements: height 6'2", weight 245, neck 18", waist 32", thigh 27", calf 18½", upper arm 21½ ", chest 57"-age 20! He is doubtless the biggest man in the world of bodybuilding and thoroughly deserves his victory. Tinerino was a good second and with Henry Greaves of Trinidad third.

The Professionals --

Two classes only in this section: class 2 - 5'8" and under, and Class 1 for men over 5'8".

In Class 2 the lineup included champions from France, Italy, Guadeloupe, Norway, and the standard was high. Diminutive Charles Sintat took first prize in this class. He is perhaps the most muscular man in France today. Guiseppe Deiana of Italy was second, with Ludwig Ingebregsten of Norway third.

Professional Class 1 --

Everybody present was waiting to see the mighty Bill Pearl. He did not disappoint, and really looked magnificent as he stood in line with competitors from Germany, England, France and Guadeloupe amongst others. There could be no doubt whatsoever that Pearl was going to win. In marvelous shape, he is rightly regarded as one of the top bodybuilders of the century. Just look at his measurements. Height 5'11", weight 230, neck 18¾", waist 34", thigh 28½", calf 19", upper arm 19½ ", chest 54". Bill is 36, but definitely in best ever condition. He "brought the house down" with his superb display of muscular posing and delighted the audience with his friendly smile. A great champion, a great showman and a professional in the true sense of the word.

Thus ended another great Mr. Universe Show. Show organizer, Oscar Heidenstam, one of the big personalities of the bodybuilding game, is to be congratulated on a faultlessly organized and presented programme, one more success to his long list of achievements.

PHOTO CAPTIONS
- Bill Pearl at left posing with his trophy just after winning the professional Mr. Universe title. Bill looks great, and his victory was an easy one.

- Photo below shows Dennis Tinerino and Arnold Schwarzenegger. It was a close thing between Dennis and Arnold, but Arnold with his huge massiveness and height finally won out. This photo by Loveday gives an interesting comparison of their physiques.

- At left is a fine back pose of Schwarzenegger. Arnold is 20 years of age and has 20½ inch arms. See the July, Vol. 26, No. 5 issue of Iron Man for a full story on Arnold.

- At the right and upper left we hae John Citrone, winner of Class III Amateur (see his story in a coming issue). At the upper right is Wilf Sylvester, the present Mr. Britain (a story is forthcoming on him also). Citrone photo by Temperley. Sylvester photo by Loveday. Amateur class winners are shown at bottom, with John Citrone class 3 winner; Arnold Schwazenegger Class 1; Albert Beckles Clas 2 winner. Photo by Greenwood.

Facts and Figures
Statistics of those competing in the 1967 Professional and Amateur Contests



AMATEUR
Class 3 (up to and including 5 ft. 6 in.)
No   Name   Country   Age   Height   Weight   Neck   Waist   Thigh   Calf   Upper
Arm Flx.   Chest Ex.
1   COX, George   England   30   5-2   140   15½   29   23   15½   15¾   44
2   SYLVESTER, Wilfred   St. Lucia   21   5-3   168   16¾   27   24   16¾   17¼
3   WILD, Alan   England   30   5-4   158   16½   29½   24   15½   16½   46
4   VAUGHAN, Leslie   England   27   5-4½   165   16¾   31   23   15   17   48
5   LECREN, Jean   France   23   5-4¾   173   16½   -   24½   15   16¾   46½
6   ANDERSON, Lars-Goran   Sweden   25   5-4¾   170   -   30   25   16   17   48
7   HEMSWORTH, William   England   30   5-4¾   161   16   29½   24¼   15¾   17   48
8   CHANDRAN, S. R.   Singapore   25   5-4   158   16   28   23   15   16¾   48½
9   CITRONE, John   England   24   5-4   172   16   30   24   16   18   47
10   PARKINSON, Terry   England   27   5-5   180   16   31   24½   16½   18   48
11   McFARLANE, Harry   Jamaica   28   5-5½   174   17¼   28   25   16¾   17   47½
12   HOUSE, Brian   England   28   5-5½   168   17   29½   24   17   16¾   47½
13   BAKER, Michael   England   30   5-5½   174   16½   29   24   15½   17   48
14   WOOD, Theophilus   Barbados   31   5-6   180   17½   29   25   16½   17½   48
15   BROWN, Ronnie   England   29   5-6   172   17   29   25   17   17½   47½
16   PILIOTIS, Michael   England   26   5-6   175   16¼   31   25   16   17¾   47
17   ASHTON, Ken   Wales   27   5-5   166   16½   29   23½   15   16   47


AMATEUR
Class 2 (over 5 ft. 6 in. and up to and including 5 ft. 9 in.)
No   Name   Country   Age   Height   Weight   Neck   Waist   Thigh   Calf   Upper
Arm Flx.   Chest Ex.
18   WEIMER, Friedrich   Germany   25   5-6½   172   16½   30   24½   15½   17   48¾
19   VAN DEN BERG, Francois   S. Africa   25   5-6½   190   16½   30   25   16   18   51½
20   JACOBS, Serge   Belgium   27   5-6½   166   15¾   30   24¼   16   15¾   48
21   ASTORGA, Jesus   Spain   25   5-7   170   17¾   31   24¼   15½   17¾   48¼
22   LUNDE, Lars   Norway   19   5-7½   169   15¾   27½   23½   16¼   16¾   47
23   FAIRHURST, Arthur   England   30   5-7½   174   17½   29½   25½   16½   17¾   49½
24   CAMILLERI, Frans   Malta   31   5-7½   180   16½   31   24   16   17   48
25   PERROTT, Roy   England   30   5-7   180   17   31   24   16   17   48
26   WHITEHEAD, Bill   England   29   5-8¼   190   17   31   25   16¾   17¾   50
27   CALLENDER, Roy   Barbados   22   5-8   196   16½   31   25½   16½   18   49½
28   ALLEN, Gordon   England   26   5-8   182   17½   31   25   16   17½   49
29   RUDMAN, Janko   Sweden   28   5-8   185   18   31   25½   17   18½   52
30   BLOKZIEL, Bob   Holland   32   5-8½   190   16½   -   24½   16   18   -
31   BECKLES, Albert   Barbados   29   5-8½   182   16½   31   25   16¾   19   48½
32   GREER, Leslie   England   28   5-8¾   185   17   32   24½   16   17¾   49½
33   TAMPELLINI, Ruggero   Italy   28   5-9   182   17   29   25   16¼   17¾   49
34   MAGGS, Alcwyn   Wales   31   5-9   198   17½   31   26   17½   18   52


AMATEUR
Class 1 (over 5 ft. 6 in.)
No   Name   Country   Age   Height   Weight   Neck   Waist   Thigh   Calf   Upper
Arm Flx.   Chest Ex.
36   ARENSTEIN, Soll   S. Africa   28   5-9½   214   -   32   26   17   19   52
37   DUTTA,DulalKanti   India   34   5-9½   195   16½   31   24   15½   17¼   48
38   CALLAN, Michael   England   24   6-0   190   16   31   25   16½   17   46
39   HIBBERT, Gladstone   Jamaica   26   5-10   205   18½   30   26   17½   18½   49
40   RICHARD, Frank   England   21   5-10   203   16½   31   25   17   17   49
41   YEATS,Edward   Scotland   26   5-10   196   17   32   24½   16   16¾   49
42   ENGELBRECHT, Dick   S. Africa   -   5-11   -   -   -   -   -   -   -
43   DOWNS, Vic   England   38   5-11   220   17   32   26½   17½   19½   50½
44   GREAVES, Henry   Trinidad   35   5-11   200   17   31   25¾   16¾   18¾   49
45   CHOUSAL, Alfonso   Mexico   24   6-0   190   16½   29   25½   16½   17½   50
46   TINERINO, Dennis   USA   21   6-0   225   18   33   27½   18   19¾   53½
47   SCHWARZENEGGER, Arnold   Austria   20   6-2   245   18   32   27   18½   20½   56½


PROFESSIONAL
Class 2 (5 ft. 8 in. and under)
No   Name   Country   Age   Height   Weight   Neck   Waist   Thigh   Calf   Upper
Arm Flx.   Chest Ex.
49   SINTAT, Charles   France   29   5-4¾   175   16¾   27½   24¼   16   17¼   46
50   DEIANA, Guiseppe   Italy   25   5-4¾   163   16¾   26½   24½   17¼   17¼   49
51   GILLES, Vincent   Guadeloupe   35   5-5¼   185   17¾   30¼   25   16½   18¾   50¼
52   INGEBREGSTEN, Ludwig   Norway   22   5-5¼   176   16¾   30   24¼   16   17¼   49
53   PICHEREAU, Maurice   France   35   5-7¼   172   16½   30¾   24   -   16¾   47½
54   DEMANES, Jean   France   27   5-7¾   190   16½   30   25   16   17   48


PROFESSIONAL
Class 1 (over 5 ft. 8 in.)
No   Name   Country   Age   Height   Weight   Neck   Waist   Thigh   Calf   Upper
Arm Flx.   Chest Ex.
56   BLOMER, Karl   Germany   29   5-9¼   196   17¼   31   26¾   16½   18   51½
57   BUBB, John   England   32   5-8½   190   16½   32   25   16½   17   47
58   FRANCOIS, Roger   France   31   5-8¾   198   17   30½   26   16½   17¼   50
59   GIBBONS, Derek   England   35   5-10½   202   17½   32½   25½   16¾   17   50½
60   KLEBER, Nicolas   Guadeloupe   -   5-11   210   -   -   -   -   19½   -
61   PEARL, William   USA   36   5-11   230   18¾   34   28½   19   19½   -
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THE MR. UNIVERSE CONTEST
BY OSCAR HEIDENSTAM
ANOTHER GREAT NABBA MR. UNIVERSE CONTEST is over. This being the 18th one. Each year the contest proves just as interesting and exciting as the one before with the Mr. Universe titles being hotly contested to the very end.

This year 38 contestants competed in the amateur division, while only 11 took part in the professional category. This smaller professional entry was due to Bill Pearl's entry which was made known months in advance. His entry no doubt was responsible for keeping some of the contestants away. Even so, besides Bill there were some worthy competitors in the professionals.

Twenty-eight different countries were represented in NABBA this year. Our international panel of judges included men from the USA, Italy, France, Belgium, West Indies and England. All these men on our panel of judges have been associated with the sport and physique contests for years. Each being well qualified to judge and know the kind of man they feel should be a Mr. Universe title holder.

As is our custom, the prejudging takes place the day before the actual contest so as to give the judges plenty of time to make their selection. This year, however, we were honored by several U.S. visitors and two judges. This included Dr. Craig Whitehead and Leo Stern. Leo Stern operates a modern health studio in San Diego, while Dr. Whitehead, a captain in the air force has competed and placed high in several Mr. America contests. The other Americans on the scene to "take in the sights" were the famous old-timer, Henry "Milo" Steinborn and his son, Henry, Jr., Bob Hinds the muscular marvel, and several others whose names escape me at this time. We hope, however, that all these visiting Americans were sufficiently impressed by our efforts as all the others who have attended our show in the past.

We started judging early, around 10 o'clock with the small men. This was:

Class-3 Under and up to 5' 6"

This is always a rough class and a number of wonderfully developed men competed in this category. The first three selected in this class are those who have been in competition last year and each has won the Mr. Britain title. This division was won by John Citrone, who also won this class last year. In second place was Wilfred Sylvester of St. Lucia, and third place went to Terry Parkinson from England.

Wilfred, though placing second, was selected as the winner of the Most Muscular Man award, a title which we added to the Mr. Universe contest this year.

Class-2 Over 5' 6" and up to 5' 9"

This year this class had the greatest number of contestants. Some excellent contestants competed in this class and gave the judges something to ponder. Albert Beckles from Barbados jumped from fifth place last year into the top position this year. His muscularity was needle-sharp and he appeared in fantastic shape. I doubt if anyone ever had arms with such high peaks as Albert displayed in this contest. In second place was Roy Callender, a newcomer from Barbados who is another impressively built lad. And third place went to a much-improved Arthur Fairhurst who comes from England and who last year did not place in the competition at all.

Class-1 5' 9" and Over

This is always the most eagerly awaited class and a real battle of giants. I am sure the fellows who failed to show up anticipated stronger competition than they could offer, so failed to be present. Vic Downs of Canada informed us he would be over yet failed to show up, and probably competed in another contest held in New York. We had, in fact, arranged three other shows for him while he would be visiting but apparently he felt he couldn't win so did not come over this year.

In this class great speculation hovered around the newly-crowned Mr. America, Dennis Tinerino, and the young Austrian giant Arnold Schwarzenegger who, as readers will remember, caused quite a sensation with his appearance last year. Had Vic Downs made the trip this class would have been hotly contested.

Schwarzenegger's improvement since last year was phenomenal, especially his legs. He weighed in at 248 pounds and boasted 21½ inch arms, with a 57 inch expanded chest. Arnold stands 6' 2½" in height and is hard as nails.

Tinerino made the mistake of not doing any back poses at the prejudging, allowing some of the more experienced judges to conclude that he had a weak back. It was only after the judges singled out small groups for a closer inspection that Dennis displayed his back. Good as Dennis was he was simply swamped by the huge Austrian, though in other years he could have won comfortably. I was happy to note that both of the American judges voted for the youthful Austrian which made Arnold's victory unanimous.

So it was Arnold Schwarzenegger 1st, Dennis Tinerino 2nd, and Henry Greaves of Trinidad 3rd.

The professional entries were next called up after the task of selecting the amateur Mr. Universe was completed. In this category Bill Pearl dominated the field. He gave everyone a lesson in performance. Although this contest did not have the usual entries, several of the competing men were worthy contestants.

Only two classes for the professionals are held. Class-2 which is under and up to 5' 8" was won by Charles Sintat of Guadeloupe but resides in Paris, and second place went to Guiseppe Deiana of Italy -- both well-built fellows.

Bill Pearl won his height division and the overall professional Mr. Universe title.

Besides the Mr. Universe competition a Miss Bikini Beauty contest is also staged. A line-up of this group appears on page 36 in this edition.

The whole affair was well-staged and the contest was a sellout long before the date of the show. Now plans are being made for next year's gala affair when we will again see new faces and, maybe, new champions!

PHOTO CAPTIONS
- The two Mr. Universe champions. On the left is the amateur winner Arnold Schwarzenegger from Austria, and on the right is Bill Pearl from USA.

- Winners of the three amateur height categories. Left to right: John Citrone, England, Class #3, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Austria, Class #1, and Al Beckles, Barbados, Class #2.

- One of the scenes taken during the prejudging shows these contestants displaying their arm development for the judges.

- A view of some of the professional contestants on stage. Left to right: Nicolas Kleber from Guadelope, Bill Pearl, USA and the winner of the professional title. Charles Sintat from France, and Guiseppe Deianna from Italy.

- Dennis Tinerino, who placed second in the amateur division, reaches over and congratulates Bill Pearl, the professional winner. Arnold Schwarzenegger, the amateur title holder, is in the center.

- Another shot taken during the prejudging which shows Tinerino and Schwarzenegger comparing chests. Schwarzengger won the overall amateur title, Tinerino placed second.

- The line-up of the Miss Bikini Beauty contest, a contest that continues to grow in popularity. On the far left is Oscar Heidenstam the president of NABBA and the author of this article. Oscar is responsible for the great success that the Mr. Universe contest continues to enjoy year after year.

- First and second place winners in the amateur contest. Dennis Tinerino (on the left) shakes the hand of champion Arnold Schwarzenegger in a congratulatory gesture. The contest was close among these two but the final decision was unanimous to the satisfaction of all.
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« Reply #1520 on: May 19, 2021, 11:02:06 AM »
Funk doing a stone age version of the DDoS attack.  ;D

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« Reply #1521 on: May 19, 2021, 12:38:59 PM »
Funk doing a stone age version of the DDoS attack.  ;D
               
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« Reply #1522 on: May 19, 2021, 12:44:49 PM »
Yup.  In a  kinda sorta reacharound "cast" way.   I would bet his mother stapled her cuntlette shut once he queefed out.

You told us you are below average IQ.
You told us you suffered multiple head trauma as a child that resulted in scars and a dented skull.
You are a cripple whose family uses the internet to babysit you so they can take a break from your dumb ass.
In hindsight, your mother would have probably stapled her cuntlette shut before you came out to save everyone else from having oxygen wasted on such a failure.

Don't be jealous that I can actually get out and go places to do things while you watch the "real world" from your window.  Limp away bitch boy.

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« Reply #1523 on: May 19, 2021, 12:48:45 PM »
Did you ??? What did you catch?

A great tan.

Snapper, grouper, tarpon, the occasional mahi mahi.

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« Reply #1524 on: May 19, 2021, 01:00:57 PM »
62!