Trained in Toronto with Mohammed and then would sometimes go to Gironda's one month prior to Mohammeds big shows. Vince would be outside waiting for us at 6am and scream at us if it was 6:01! Also trained with Gladys Portuguese for her Olympia attempt in Montreal, as her routines were done by Gironda . That was one of the very few pro shows Vince actually attended. Gironda was a genius, an eccentric, a maniac, an originator who questioned existing training and nutrition .I feel honored to have known the man.