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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The_Hammer on February 14, 2007, 08:58:40 AM
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Milos and his crew kept calling their critics out on the latest Fit Show. Personally I'd jump at any chance to train with a pro, but I'm on the other side of the country.
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Milos and his crew kept calling their critics out on the latest Fit Show. Personally I'd jump at any chance to train with a pro, but I'm on the other side of the country.
Hahahaha.... ill save to toilet paper curls and air squats for retirment.
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"today vee gonnu do bible sqvats with 25 on each side for 253 reps, then vee gonnu move to leg press with 10 pounds each side for 546 reps"
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"today vee gonnu do bible sqvats with 25 on each side for 253 reps, then vee gonnu move to leg press with 10 pounds each side for 546 reps"
bahahahahah the most pointless training techniques ever.
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bahahahahah the most pointless training techniques ever.
No, not really!
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No, not really!
Drugs can do alot!!!
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bahahahahah the most pointless training techniques ever.
Yes, please tell me what you do to get so huge. Fuckin' even Ronnie Coleman is jealous of your size. Dorian is jealous of your tan too. :-\
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Drugs can do alot!!!
I agree, but giant set training is an incredible workout, burn more fat and even though you use less weight you also lessen your chance for injury plus of you have a lagging body part either supersetting, tri-setting or giant setting the same bodypart is the way to go, this type of training put's HIT to shame!
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I agree, but giant set training is an incredible workout, burn more fat and even though you use less weight you also lessen your chance for injury plus of you have a lagging body part either supersetting, tri-setting or giant setting the same bodypart is the way to go, this type of training put's HIT to shame!
True.... i hate HIT. I think HIT is silly.
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I agree, but giant set training is an incredible workout, burn more fat and even though you use less weight you also lessen your chance for injury plus of you have a lagging body part either supersetting, tri-setting or giant setting the same bodypart is the way to go, this type of training put's HIT to shame!
supersets, giant sets, drop sets are all great AT THE END OF A WORKOUT to put some blood in the muscle but heavy staright sets should be the cornerstone of your training.
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supersets, giant sets, drop sets are all great AT THE END OF A WORKOUT to put some blood in the muscle but heavy staright sets should be the cornerstone of your training.
honestly Milos isn't gonna get much bigger unless he goes nuts with the drugs and I dont' see him doing that. his arms are his arms, they're always gonna look like they do, it's more a matter of genetics than anything else at this point. Maybe Milos feels that giant sets are better for him cause he's focusing on detail and refinement at this point.
there are also different types of muscle's in the human body, maybe he's working the endurance fibers....
just a thought.
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supersets, giant sets, drop sets are all great AT THE END OF A WORKOUT to put some blood in the muscle but heavy staright sets should be the cornerstone of your training.
looks like most of these guys were getting ready for a contest...thats why they were training that way.
im sure that in the offseason most if not all of those guys training with milos train heavy.
that new fitshow video was pretty lame...the vomit-o-meter...wtf. Puking while working out IS NOT HARDCORE.
anyways id love to train with milos, but 300/hour isn't exactly in my price range at 19
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supersets, giant sets, drop sets are all great AT THE END OF A WORKOUT to put some blood in the muscle but heavy staright sets should be the cornerstone of your training.
Well said.
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supersets, giant sets, drop sets are all great AT THE END OF A WORKOUT to put some blood in the muscle but heavy staright sets should be the cornerstone of your training.
Sometimes I do these at the beginning of my workout to bring my mental focus in and get my adrenaline going through my veins. Along with negatives and rapid partial reps for power.
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"today vee gonnu do bible sqvats with 25 on each side for 253 reps, then vee gonnu move to leg press with 10 pounds each side for 546 reps"
haha i have to give it to you. thats some funny shit
picturing him in my head saying that with his speciall accent that made me laugh hard ;D
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supersets, giant sets, drop sets are all great AT THE END OF A WORKOUT to put some blood in the muscle but heavy staright sets should be the cornerstone of your training.
Definately. When the feeling hits me or I dont feel like my muscles are just gonna pop at the end of a workout I do a superset or a descending set.Other than that save that shit for the fitness geeks. Unless your pumping yourself full of juice(much like Milos the "guru" is to the people he "trains") that shit isnt gonna make you grow.
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His workout is too "personal trainer" too much philosophy and not enough substance. Milos is strange to say the least. I can try to run 10 miles and I'd probably puke right after. Is that HARD CORE? Nope. Doing squats with 100 pounds 100 times to me is not hard core. Following it up with leg extensions at 10 pounds * 100 more reps is not hard core. hard core is slapping 5 plates a side and reping out 10 with your ass touching the ground each time. THAT IS HARD CORE M*THERF*CKER!
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His workout is too "personal trainer" too much philosophy and not enough substance. Milos is strange to say the least. I can try to run 10 miles and I'd probably puke right after. Is that HARD CORE? Nope. Doing squats with 100 pounds 100 times to me is not hard core. Following it up with leg extensions at 10 pounds * 100 more reps is not hard core. hard core is slapping 5 plates a side and reping out 10 with your ass touching the ground each time. THAT IS HARD CORE M*THERF*CKER!
Word! Is doin dumbell laterals with 5lbs for 50 reps supersetted with 20lbs dumbell presses for whatever hardcore?
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on the contraire..... besides the oil incident, i dont beleive milos has ever been hurt. and as he gets older he wont get hurt. Ronnie, Dorian, Branch have all had serious injuries and tears. Im not saying i like volume training (i think it takes the fun out of lifting), but for longevity purposes, it is smart. Stimulation is stimulation.
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His workout is too "personal trainer" too much philosophy and not enough substance. Milos is strange to say the least. I can try to run 10 miles and I'd probably puke right after. Is that HARD CORE? Nope. Doing squats with 100 pounds 100 times to me is not hard core. Following it up with leg extensions at 10 pounds * 100 more reps is not hard core. hard core is slapping 5 plates a side and reping out 10 with your ass touching the ground each time. THAT IS HARD CORE M*THERF*CKER!
exactly, you could also run a marathon or do a triathlon, i'd sure as shit be puking after that but how is that nonsense going to build muscle?
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then go slam some slin and pound carbs ;)
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Milos is looking bigger though. His training is paying off.
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Milos is doing well since he learned how to stop mainlining synthol.
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on the contraire..... besides the oil incident, i dont beleive milos has ever been hurt. and as he gets older he wont get hurt. Ronnie, Dorian, Branch have all had serious injuries and tears. Im not saying i like volume training (i think it takes the fun out of lifting), but for longevity purposes, it is smart. Stimulation is stimulation.
You obviously should be new to this sport....
Milos blew up his patellar tendon of one of his legs AND both his quadriceps around the same time JP Fux fucked up his legs , around 2001, i believe (that year the witches should probably be flying around... :'( )
Since then he only competed once, and it was the Night of Champions 2003, same as JP Fux, last contest.
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Which hurt more, Milos getting burned or the quad tear?
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i would like to train with milos. not to out due him but to learn from him.. i do think i could stay up with him though..
anyways regardless he has a great physique
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supersets, giant sets, drop sets are all great AT THE END OF A WORKOUT to put some blood in the muscle but heavy staright sets should be the cornerstone of your training.
Amen.
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Amen.
you both are amazingly dumb...thats why your world evolves around this board...
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you both are amazingly dumb...thats why your world evolves around this board...
Amen !!
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Just please don't come all at once...After all - I see so many interested to challenge me (and my training partners) - I will probably have to expend the gym to fit all of you ::).
Interestingly - there are so many "hardcore" guys here ready to criticise and laugh...but nobody really willing to prove their tuffness::)
Totall count of getbig heroes: ZERO
Still - as long as ANY of you look at particular number of pounds (being lifted) - you are in the wrong sport...
We can make ANY weight work for us if we don't let the weight control us...and instead we control the weight. As simple as that.
I trained HUNDREDS of people and some very advanced bodybuilders and speaking of putting the muscle, hypertrophy, increasing the muscle mass...etc - I managed to put THE MOST in the LEAST amount on time on numerous athletes...
In most of the cases I had to let them loose their ego and start training much lighter( 8))...controlling the weight and making incredible gains in very short period of time...
Consider how many variables are there in training and start manipulating with amount of sets, reps, weight...tempo and variation of speed in ANY portion of the rep - applying from super fast to super slow...to static contractions...and using various contractions (try maximal for example... ;D)...different grips, stances, range of motion...or WHATEVER comes to your mind.
I am only having fun with some of the kids on this board (tuff-talkers) but in actuality I am trying to send you a message that indeed IT IS NOT HOW MUCH YOU LIFT that is important...rather: HOW you lift and WHAT you feel when lifting that is much, much, MUCH more important...
Jokes aside - I do care and want to send the message regardless of the criticism I am getting (if you didn't notice - it doesn't bother me to continue "singing the same song"...Hmmm, speaking of that - I might even sing my National anthem on the next Fitshow...using brutal 10 pound dbells/ it is my heavy day after all/ as a drums...)
Certainly - once you master mind-muscle connection and honestly feel EVERY muscle you are trying to stimulate in EVERY exercise that you are doing - than (and only than) start increasing the weight in every exercise...
I am not against heavy weight...I will go as heavy as possible with each and every of my athletes (and usually put MORE weight than they want me to) - but lifting heavy for the sake of feeding your ego is JUST wrong thing to do.
Advice to those who actually want to listen: try to focus on muscle you are doing rather than weight...Pick any exercise for particular muscle and attempt to perform certain amount of reps in full range of motion.
Maintain contraction (control) throughout the whole movement - keeping targeting muscle MAXIMALLY contracted at all times (regardless of the speed you choose). When you start feeling the muscle from the first 'till the last moment of the set - you will feel good about the set - as you will be certain that proper stimulation of targeting muscle just occurred.
Than - you can start with numerous variations of range of motion (choosing to stop at any point of particular motion required to complete full rep).
Try to find portion of the rep where you feel the best stimulation and "play with it"...
What I mean by that - try to stop (pause) in the hardest part of the movement and maybe squeeze as hard as you can for certain amount of time (as you ALWAYS should...BTW - many people believe that as long as they make contraction they are doing the job - not thinking about the difference between ANY and MAXIMAL contraction).
I suggest you start with 2-3 seconds - and later you can go as long as you want (I often perform 5 and 10 second "squeezes" per rep - in numerous different positions. Sometimes "peak contraction" at the top of the movement...sometimes maximal contraction as I am pausing in the bottom position (end of eccentric part of the rep) - before attempting "concentric" contraction....
That is just ONE of countless examples and possibilities...
Be open minded and don't fit into a shame "go heavy or go home" - before realizing that heavy ONLY benefits you if you "do right or go home"...
I'll take correct LIGHT lifting over incorrect HEAVY lifting anytime...Certainly once you are able to go HEAVY correctly - you'll improve even more...
In the mean time I am making a list of the challengers...
So far ZERO...but counting.....
Did I say I love you guys?
Valentine was yesterday - but oh well...better late than never... :-*
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It's worked so well that Luke Wood is winning Olympia's left and right!!!! ::)
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Milos, while I agree with your basic message (that it's not how much you lift but what you feel when you're lifting) you make it sound like it's rocket science when bodybuilding is quite simple really.
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Just please don't come all at once...After all - I see so many interested to challenge me (and my training partners) - I will probably have to expend the gym to fit all of you ::).
Interestingly - there are so many "hardcore" guys here ready to criticise and laugh...but nobody really willing to prove their tuffness::)
Totall count of getbig heroes: ZERO
Still - as long as ANY of you look at particular number of pounds (being lifted) - you are in the wrong sport...
We can make ANY weight work for us if we don't let the weight control us...and instead we control the weight. As simple as that.
I trained HUNDREDS of people and some very advanced bodybuilders and speaking of putting the muscle, hypertrophy, increasing the muscle mass...etc - I managed to put THE MOST in the LEAST amount on time on numerous athletes...
In most of the cases I had to let them loose their ego and start training much lighter( 8))...controlling the weight and making incredible gains in very short period of time...
Consider how many variables are there in training and start manipulating with amount of sets, reps, weight...tempo and variation of speed in ANY portion of the rep - applying from super fast to super slow...to static contractions...and using various contractions (try maximal for example... ;D)...different grips, stances, range of motion...or WHATEVER comes to your mind.
I am only having fun with some of the kids on this board (tuff-talkers) but in actuality I am trying to send you a message that indeed IT IS NOT HOW MUCH YOU LIFT that is important...rather: HOW you lift and WHAT you feel when lifting that is much, much, MUCH more important...
Jokes aside - I do care and want to send the message regardless of the criticism I am getting (if you didn't notice - it doesn't bother me to continue "singing the same song"...Hmmm, speaking of that - I might even sing my National anthem on the next Fitshow...using brutal 10 pound dbells/ it is my heavy day after all/ as a drums...)
Certainly - once you master mind-muscle connection and honestly feel EVERY muscle you are trying to stimulate in EVERY exercise that you are doing - than (and only than) start increasing the weight in every exercise...
I am not against heavy weight...I will go as heavy as possible with each and every of my athletes (and usually put MORE weight than they want me to) - but lifting heavy for the sake of feeding your ego is JUST wrong thing to do.
Advice to those who actually want to listen: try to focus on muscle you are doing rather than weight...Pick any exercise for particular muscle and attempt to perform certain amount of reps in full range of motion.
Maintain contraction (control) throughout the whole movement - keeping targeting muscle MAXIMALLY contracted at all times (regardless of the speed you choose). When you start feeling the muscle from the first 'till the last moment of the set - you will feel good about the set - as you will be certain that proper stimulation of targeting muscle just occurred.
Than - you can start with numerous variations of range of motion (choosing to stop at any point of particular motion required to complete full rep).
Try to find portion of the rep where you feel the best stimulation and "play with it"...
What I mean by that - try to stop (pause) in the hardest part of the movement and maybe squeeze as hard as you can for certain amount of time (as you ALWAYS should...BTW - many people believe that as long as they make contraction they are doing the job - not thinking about the difference between ANY and MAXIMAL contraction).
I suggest you start with 2-3 seconds - and later you can go as long as you want (I often perform 5 and 10 second "squeezes" per rep - in numerous different positions. Sometimes "peak contraction" at the top of the movement...sometimes maximal contraction as I am pausing in the bottom position (end of eccentric part of the rep) - before attempting "concentric" contraction....
That is just ONE of countless examples and possibilities...
Be open minded and don't fit into a shame "go heavy or go home" - before realizing that heavy ONLY benefits you if you "do right or go home"...
I'll take correct LIGHT lifting over incorrect HEAVY lifting anytime...Certainly once you are able to go HEAVY correctly - you'll improve even more...
In the mean time I am making a list of the challengers...
So far ZERO...but counting.....
Did I say I love you guys?
Valentine was yesterday - but oh well...better late than never... :-*
I'd love to have a session with you, Milos. I'm traveling in L.A this summer
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It's worked so well that Luke Wood is winning Olympia's left and right!!!! ::)
...I had nothing to do with his left victory...but I was all behind the right one..
Besides - anyone who doesn't win the Olympia doesn't know how to train?
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I'd love to have a session with you, Milos. I'm traveling in L.A this summer
I know what you did last summer...
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When i get out to Cali, Imma be there....get the cameras ready!!!!
hardcore training ....jaejonna style
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Milos im sure most of us here couldnt complete such a workout. And i to would probably puke doing it.
The question is how effektive is it doing dropsets or giantsets or whatever its called on every exercise. After you have done your first exercises your muscles are to exhausted to move any bigger weights on the next exercise.
like said. I also think it should be done at the end of the workout for the last one or two exercises only. At the first exercises of the workout you want to move heavy poundages to stimulate the fast twich fibers.
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supersets, giant sets, drop sets are all great AT THE END OF A WORKOUT to put some blood in the muscle but heavy staright sets should be the cornerstone of your training.
well fucking said
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well fucking said
words of wisdom ::)...big mal u aint big but dumb...diet down and you'll see your truer self.
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Just please don't come all at once...After all - I see so many interested to challenge me (and my training partners) - I will probably have to expend the gym to fit all of you ::).
Interestingly - there are so many "hardcore" guys here ready to criticise and laugh...but nobody really willing to prove their tuffness::)
Totall count of getbig heroes: ZERO
Still - as long as ANY of you look at particular number of pounds (being lifted) - you are in the wrong sport...
We can make ANY weight work for us if we don't let the weight control us...and instead we control the weight. As simple as that.
I trained HUNDREDS of people and some very advanced bodybuilders and speaking of putting the muscle, hypertrophy, increasing the muscle mass...etc - I managed to put THE MOST in the LEAST amount on time on numerous athletes...
In most of the cases I had to let them loose their ego and start training much lighter( 8))...controlling the weight and making incredible gains in very short period of time...
Consider how many variables are there in training and start manipulating with amount of sets, reps, weight...tempo and variation of speed in ANY portion of the rep - applying from super fast to super slow...to static contractions...and using various contractions (try maximal for example... ;D)...different grips, stances, range of motion...or WHATEVER comes to your mind.
I am only having fun with some of the kids on this board (tuff-talkers) but in actuality I am trying to send you a message that indeed IT IS NOT HOW MUCH YOU LIFT that is important...rather: HOW you lift and WHAT you feel when lifting that is much, much, MUCH more important...
Jokes aside - I do care and want to send the message regardless of the criticism I am getting (if you didn't notice - it doesn't bother me to continue "singing the same song"...Hmmm, speaking of that - I might even sing my National anthem on the next Fitshow...using brutal 10 pound dbells/ it is my heavy day after all/ as a drums...)
Certainly - once you master mind-muscle connection and honestly feel EVERY muscle you are trying to stimulate in EVERY exercise that you are doing - than (and only than) start increasing the weight in every exercise...
I am not against heavy weight...I will go as heavy as possible with each and every of my athletes (and usually put MORE weight than they want me to) - but lifting heavy for the sake of feeding your ego is JUST wrong thing to do.
Advice to those who actually want to listen: try to focus on muscle you are doing rather than weight...Pick any exercise for particular muscle and attempt to perform certain amount of reps in full range of motion.
Maintain contraction (control) throughout the whole movement - keeping targeting muscle MAXIMALLY contracted at all times (regardless of the speed you choose). When you start feeling the muscle from the first 'till the last moment of the set - you will feel good about the set - as you will be certain that proper stimulation of targeting muscle just occurred.
Than - you can start with numerous variations of range of motion (choosing to stop at any point of particular motion required to complete full rep).
Try to find portion of the rep where you feel the best stimulation and "play with it"...
What I mean by that - try to stop (pause) in the hardest part of the movement and maybe squeeze as hard as you can for certain amount of time (as you ALWAYS should...BTW - many people believe that as long as they make contraction they are doing the job - not thinking about the difference between ANY and MAXIMAL contraction).
I suggest you start with 2-3 seconds - and later you can go as long as you want (I often perform 5 and 10 second "squeezes" per rep - in numerous different positions. Sometimes "peak contraction" at the top of the movement...sometimes maximal contraction as I am pausing in the bottom position (end of eccentric part of the rep) - before attempting "concentric" contraction....
That is just ONE of countless examples and possibilities...
Be open minded and don't fit into a shame "go heavy or go home" - before realizing that heavy ONLY benefits you if you "do right or go home"...
I'll take correct LIGHT lifting over incorrect HEAVY lifting anytime...Certainly once you are able to go HEAVY correctly - you'll improve even more...
In the mean time I am making a list of the challengers...
So far ZERO...but counting.....
Did I say I love you guys?
Valentine was yesterday - but oh well...better late than never... :-*
Milos your theories are very interesting and i can imagine that training with you is tough.
But what i do not understand is why most of the pro's (especially the biggest one) train with such sloppy form. Just look at how ronnie trains: 3/4 reps and no negative. Or how Jay trains, really fast but with a loose form.
If i look at my gym, the guys that use the sloppiest form use the most poundages but are also the biggest.
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Put me down as a 'challenger,' if that is the right word. If I am ever in your neck of the woods, Milos, I will certainly drop by, announce myself as a Getbigger and give it my best.
/you can take all the pics you want of me making a mess of your gym, and i expect some good trash-talking. :D