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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Religious Debates & Threads => Topic started by: bjorn_fairhair on September 03, 2006, 05:25:13 PM
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Ancient peoples all over the world have told of unusual, reptile-like creatures that once roamed the earth. There were many different types, both large and small. And there were many different names for them. The ancient people of Europe called them "dragons." Many ancient descriptions of dragons sound similar to dinosaurs.
http://www.christiananswers.net/dinosaurs/j-dragon1.html
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dinosaurs servived the flood because they were on the ark . but they died out because humans hunted and killed them many inca and aztec drawings show dinosaurs this is prof they lives with humans
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dinosaurs servived the flood because they were on the ark . but they died out because humans hunted and killed them many inca and aztec drawings show dinosaurs this is prof they lives with humans
How do you know that these people didn't use their creativity and imagination to depict such creatures, taking motivation from the lizards and such?
E.g. Goblins in gothic arcitecture. Do goblins exist soley on the fact that they were depicted alot during the gothica years?
How about lepricorns, hunicorns maybe werewolves?
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How do you know that these people didn't use their creativity and imagination to depict such creatures, taking motivation from the lizards and such?
E.g. Goblins in gothic arcitecture. Do goblins exist soley on the fact that they were depicted alot during the gothica years?
How about lepricorns, hunicorns maybe werewolves?
there in the bible duh
are leperkauns in the bible? no
if its in teh bible then its true
jesus loves you
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also most dinosaur fosils are faked by scientists. only some are real and those wear teh dragons
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This is about the stupidest thing I've read lately.
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Pretty soon they will find live Dinosaurs in Africa.
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This is about the stupidest thing I've read lately.
That's what they said when Galileo said the earth was round.
Don't be a fool.
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I slayed a dragon once in junior high but I didn't tell anyone because I didn't think they would believe me.
So i think you are right about this bjorn.
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That's what they said when Galileo said the earth was round.
Don't be a fool.
SNORE
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That's what they said when Galileo said the earth was round.
Don't be a fool.
Actually, they said "Burn that motherf*cker!"
Come on people... even the religious ones on this board should go against stupid asessments such as the ones found on that link (about dragons and all that crap). No every stupid thing a christian says should be defended only because he shares your religion, or just to "fight the non-believers". I think we can all agree on that.
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people made up stories of dragons to explain the large dinosaur bones they found. its human nature to create stories that explain things they dont understand. religion is a perfect example.
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people made up stories of dragons to explain the large dinosaur bones they found. its human nature to create stories that explain things they dont understand. religion is a perfect example.
I agree that religion got some of it's roots that way.
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if you acknowledge that it got "some" then you you have to also acknowledge that not all aspects of christianity is true. some parts are made up. if that is true then how are we supposed to accept a god that has an imperfect message, being that the only source of his word is from the imperfect bible. i was once a christian for my first 18 years then i decided not to believe just because thats what i was taught.
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if you acknowledge that it got "some" then you you have to also acknowledge that not all aspects of christianity is true. some parts are made up. if that is true then how are we supposed to accept a god that has an imperfect message, being that the only source of his word is from the imperfect bible. i was once a christian for my first 18 years then i decided not to believe just because thats what i was taught.
I'm pretty sure OzMo never claimed to be a Christian. He just believes there is a God.
ATHEIST, were you brought up in a particular denomination?
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I heard that their still are dragons somewhere in the south.
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if you acknowledge that it got "some" then you you have to also acknowledge that not all aspects of christianity is true.
I agree not all aspects are true and niether are all aspects false. There are some very good points of practical wisdom in it. "do on to others" I believe is devine ;D. But that can be easily labeled a principle and not the word of God. But what difference does it make how we label it? It's a great way to live.
if that is true then how are we supposed to accept a god that has an imperfect message, being that the only source of his word is from the imperfect bible.
To me, the Bible isn't the only source of his word. In fact, while there is little of God's word in the Bible (IMO), i believe God's word speaks more loudly in our hearts.... but don't apply science to that becuase it's just how i believe.
i was once a christian for my first 18 years then i decided not to believe just because thats what i was taught.
It happened to me when i was in my early thirties.
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I heard that their still are dragons somewhere in the south.
I live in Argentina, and I don't see any "dragons" here... or do you mean southern U.S.?
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I live in Argentina, and I don't see any "dragons" here... or do you mean southern U.S.?
Bull! They don't have electricity in argentina! ::)
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I'm pretty sure OzMo never claimed to be a Christian. He just believes there is a God.
ATHEIST, were you brought up in a particular denomination?
to me just believing is not enough. i would like to think that if there is a god, the reason you believe is more important than just believing because you were taught to do so as a young child. you can teach a child to believe in anything when they are young etc. santa, tooth fairy, one race is superior to another. just believing because you were told to do so has no substance. iwas not raised in a particular denomonation, just christian, from the time i was born. i went to a chirstian high school. one day i thought about religion from an objective point of view. and wondered what happens to people who are born in another country are they not saved, since the majority of the US population is christian. there are just to many holes in christianity for me.
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I'm pretty sure OzMo never claimed to be a Christian. He just believes there is a God.
ATHEIST, were you brought up in a particular denomination?
to me just believing is not enough. i would like to think that if there is a god, the reason you believe is more important than just believing because you were taught to do so as a young child. you can teach a child to believe in anything when they are young etc. santa, tooth fairy, one race is superior to another. just believing because you were told to do so has no substance. iwas not raised in a particular denomonation, just christian, from the time i was born. i went to a chirstian high school. one day i thought about religion from an objective point of view. and wondered what happens to people who are born in another country are they not saved, since the majority of the US population is christian. there are just to many holes in christianity for me.
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I agree not all aspects are true and niether are all aspects false. There are some very good points of practical wisdom in it. "do on to others" I believe is devine ;D. But that can be easily labeled a principle and not the word of God. But what difference does it make how we label it? It's a great way to live.
i always have said that christianity is a good way to live your life, do unto others and love thy neighbor, dont kill and that but that doent legitimize christianity at all. just because the message is correct doesnt mean the substance they surround it by is
To me, the Bible isn't the only source of his word. In fact, while there is little of God's word in the Bible (IMO), i believe God's word speaks more loudly in our hearts.... but don't apply science to that becuase it's just how i believe.
the fact that man beleives something he feesl in his heart doent prove Jesus was the son of man. a mans heart can lead him to do many things.
It happened to me when i was in my early thirties.
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to me just believing is not enough. i would like to think that if there is a god, the reason you believe is more important than just believing because you were taught to do so as a young child. you can teach a child to believe in anything when they are young etc. santa, tooth fairy, one race is superior to another. just believing because you were told to do so has no substance. iwas not raised in a particular denomonation, just christian, from the time i was born. i went to a chirstian high school. one day i thought about religion from an objective point of view. and wondered what happens to people who are born in another country are they not saved, since the majority of the US population is christian. there are just to many holes in christianity for me.
I'm with you there! ;) That's why i don't believe in organized religion. Most of it's Bull Cah Cah.
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by the way i am still looking at things objectively. im not just completely against Christianity, just from what i have concluded leads me to believe that there is no god. im still learning everyday and who knows maybe one day i will change. i just need to find out for myself and not believe because i was taught to do so.
thanks tis board really is what i was looking for. i do have some questions though.
i have my history degree but religious history is not my expertise so forgive me.
1) how long has it been according to Christianity since the beginning of time? how much time had past since god told his people Jesus was comming till he was born.
2) and i know this has probably been brought up before but where do fossils fit in?
3) and is there any proof that the great flood did take place?(aside from the bible) there is no evidence in any other regions history that acknowledges a flood covered the entire planet.
4) isn't there some disagreement as to who actually wrote certain book of the bible? it is now believed that John may not have actually written the book of John.
5) if the bible was written originally in Aramaic and no one today can read Aramaic then how was it really translated and wouldn't the transaltion be altered some?
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by the way i am still looking at things objectively. im not just completely against Christianity, just from what i have concluded leads me to believe that there is no god. im still learning everyday and who knows maybe one day i will change. i just need to find out for myself and not believe because i was taught to do so.
thanks tis board really is what i was looking for. i do have some questions though.
i have my history degree but religious history is not my expertise so forgive me.
1) how long has it been according to Christianity since the beginning of time? how much time had past since god told his people Jesus was comming till he was born.
2) and i know this has probably been brought up before but where do fossils fit in?
3) and is there any proof that the great flood did take place?(aside from the bible) there is no evidence in any other regions history that acknowledges a flood covered the entire planet.
4) isn't there some disagreement as to who actually wrote certain book of the bible? it is now believed that John may not have actually written the book of John.
5) if the bible was written originally in Aramaic and no one today can read Aramaic then how was it really translated and wouldn't the transaltion be altered some?
I think there is one thing you should consider or at least think about:
"The accuracy or inaccuracy of the Bible does not determine the exsistance or non-exsistance of God"
I found God outside the Bible.
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"The accuracy or inaccuracy of the Bible does not determine the exsistance or non-exsistance of God"
Yes it does the Bilbe was given as a gift to spred his word. if you cant rely on the bible to accuratly base your belief on then your beliefs are not valid, it is not even supported in the bible. if the bible is not accurate it ruins the foundation of Christianity. the fact that you found God outside of the bible doesnt have anything to do with Chirstianity. you found God becuase you felt a need for a higher power in your life. if you were raised in Japan you would probably still yern for a higher power its just that instead of God, you would believe in Buddah. youre religion is more based on the region you live and not what religion you believe is correct in your heart. i appreciate your replys Ozmo. maybe one day i will give my life to to the Lord and see you in heaven, who knows.
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"The accuracy or inaccuracy of the Bible does not determine the exsistance or non-exsistance of God"
Yes it does the Bilbe was given as a gift to spred his word. if you cant rely on the bible to accuratly base your belief on then your beliefs are not valid, it is not even supported in the bible. if the bible is not accurate it ruins the foundation of Christianity. the fact that you found God outside of the bible doesnt have anything to do with Chirstianity. you found God becuase you felt a need for a higher power in your life. if you were raised in Japan you would probably still yern for a higher power its just that instead of God, you would believe in Buddah. youre religion is more based on the region you live and not what religion you believe is correct in your heart. i appreciate your replys Ozmo. maybe one day i will give my life to to the Lord and see you in heaven, who knows.
I think maybe i mis-spoke what i was trying to say. The Bible is just a book of stories. Whether it is true or not doesn't change whether god exsist or not. The Bible could be completely or in part inaccurate but that wouldn't change whether god exsist or not.
Also, most people consider a relationship with god about "recognizing a higher power in their lives." I don't yearn for a higher power. In times of trouble i have but in day to day stuff, no way. God i believe lives inside of me, God is part of me. I do not need to go else where to find a high power whne i already have it.
Consider this: Take God completely out of the equation..... How would you live your life? You'll probably find that you'll that life as GOD would want you to with out all the Religous dogma and church BS. That's why i don't need to "dedicate my life to God" I already do that with out the BS rituals.
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the bible cant be inaccurate because the Holy Spirit guided those who wrote it.
i do however agree that the bible is a book of stories based partly on real events.
if there is a chance that the bible is incorrect then, like i said the foundation of western christianity is false.
and my point about yerning for a higher power ithink was missed. if you lived in another country, you probably wouldnt be Christian.
" Consider this: Take God completely out of the equation..... How would you live your life? You'll probably find that you'll that life as GOD would want you to with out all the Religous dogma and church BS. That's i don't need to "dedicate my life to God" I already do that with out the rituals."
i agree with you on this. i would try and live my life like this and i do. living my life the "Christian" way is absolutely the way to live. however believing that Christ/god exsists is something completely different. i do not dissagree with the messege, i disagree with the foundation the messege was built upon.
i am not trying to stear you away from Christ, that i know would be wrong of me and impossble. im just trying to find answers for myself. i know there is a better chance of me turning to God than you turning away from Him.
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the bible cant be inaccurate because the Holy Spirit guided those who wrote it.
i do however agree that the bible is a book of stories based partly on real events.
if there is a chance that the bible is incorrect then, like i said the foundation of western christianity is false.
and my point about yerning for a higher power ithink was missed. if you lived in another country, you probably wouldnt be Christian.
" Consider this: Take God completely out of the equation..... How would you live your life? You'll probably find that you'll that life as GOD would want you to with out all the Religous dogma and church BS. That's i don't need to "dedicate my life to God" I already do that with out the rituals."
i agree with you on this. i would try and live my life like this and i do. living my life the "Christian" way is absolutely the way to live. however believing that Christ/god exsists is something completely different. i do not dissagree with the messege, i disagree with the foundation the messege was built upon.
i am not trying to stear you away from Christ, that i know would be wrong of me and impossble. im just trying to find answers for myself. i know there is a better chance of me turning to God than you turning away from Him.
I believe i understand what you are trying to say. Good luck in your journey. However i think in the end you'll find God was always near you. But sometimes we need that journey to find out.
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Bull! They don't have electricity in argentina! ::)
LMAO
We do have some of the most beautiful women though...
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LMAO
We do have some of the most beautiful women though...
Definitely the hottest babes!!