How does this "deep state" thing work

[Howard]

What exactly is this deep state conspiracy I keep hearing about from Hannity, etc.
I'm sorry, but I just don't follow the logic on this thing.

[IroNat]

The Deep State is the entrenched bureaucracy of government and entwined private sector interests.

All the bureaucrats that run the systems of government and remain ensconced in government regardless of elected officials and their relationships with private sector interests.

Think of a complex military program that takes decades to plan and execute, continues on and on from one political administration to another, costing billions.

Example: the Cold War, post 9-11 military interventions, nuclear power, oil dependence, Big Pharma, Wall Street, etc.

[Slapper]

What exactly is this deep state conspiracy I keep hearing about from Hannity, etc.
I'm sorry, but I just don't follow the logic on this thing.

You're about to find out because Barr and Durham are going to point these fuckers out one by one.

[chaos]

The Deep State is the entrenched bureaucracy of government and entwined private sector interests.

All the bureaucrats that run the systems of government and remain ensconced in government regardless of elected officials and their relationships with private sector interests.

Think of a complex military program that takes decades to plan and execute, continues on and on from one political administration to another, costing billions.

Example: the Cold War, post 9-11 military interventions, nuclear power, oil dependence, Big Pharma, Wall Street, etc.

Could you write this out in crayon for Howard the PhD to understand?

[Soul Crusher]

What exactly is this deep state conspiracy I keep hearing about from Hannity, etc.
I'm sorry, but I just don't follow the logic on this thing.

You really are a disgrace to humanity if you truly don't grasp this.   

[IroNat]

Forgot to include Howard's 7 8 marriages in the examples.

[loco]

What exactly is this deep state conspiracy I keep hearing about from Hannity, etc.
I'm sorry, but I just don't follow the logic on this thing.

Try this:  www.google.com


You are welcome!

[IroNat]

Thanks and that matches up with what I've heard and read, etc.
My real question relates to the "power" to implement these plans.

How do a bunch of mid level federal workers get more power then the President and his cabinet?

Recall your local DMV or post office when the workers dick around, chat with other, move really slow, etc. while you wait.

Now multiply that times 1000, then add in back-room deals, power brokers behind the throne, lobbyists, etc.

[polychronopolous]

Could you write this out in crayon for Howard the PhD to understand?

 

[Board_SHERIF]

Ok, I can see how you can get a GOV contract thru to favorable client doing this.
I'm sure this happens with everything from military contractors to fed hwy jobs.
BUT, I just don't see who this kind of thing would ever lead to a GOV takeover.

If "they" can really run the show, why worry about who gets elected President?

easier for you:

deep rooted government officials that are loyal to opposition parties, or believe their own beliefs should supersede those of the duly elected.

examples:

Comey et el  exonerating Crooked Clinton before even interviewing her

Comey et el spying on Trump illegally

Comey et el using a fake dossier and lying to FISA courts...

Pedo John Maccain plotting against his own party, handing the fake dossier to the deep state FBI (Comey)..

many many more

GET IT ?

[Prudence]

The Deep State is the entrenched bureaucracy of government and entwined private sector interests.

All the bureaucrats that run the systems of government and remain ensconced in government regardless of elected officials and their relationships with private sector interests.

Think of a complex military program that takes decades to plan and execute, continues on and on from one political administration to another, costing billions.

Example: the Cold War, post 9-11 military interventions, nuclear power, oil dependence, Big Pharma, Wall Street, etc.

Ya know what---if u wrote that--it's really well put.
That's twice you posted in-depth easily digestible nuggets of info.
Thanks fella.

[Thin Lizzy]

The Deep State is the entrenched bureaucracy of government and entwined private sector interests.

All the bureaucrats that run the systems of government and remain ensconced in government regardless of elected officials and their relationships with private sector interests.

Think of a complex military program that takes decades to plan and execute, continues on and on from one political administration to another, costing billions.

Example: the Cold War, post 9-11 military interventions, nuclear power, oil dependence, Big Pharma, Wall Street, etc.

Solid post👍

[The Scott]

What exactly is this deep state conspiracy I keep hearing about from Hannity, etc.
I'm sorry, but I just don't follow the logic on this thing.

[Board_SHERIF]

No, I don't "get it", but thanks for taking the time to post it.
Your so called proof sounds like a lot of unfounded conspiracy rumors.

Having said THAT, we all go on what we know or believe .
I simply don't find most of this deep state conspiracy stuff to be credible.
In my OPINION,I think behind the scenes stuff occurs, but it's a lot more messy and haphazard.
Think about it, we can't even get everyone to drive into work safely in big cities LOL.

You've come to a different conclusion and that's life within the political scene now.
I don't take differences like this personal and don't think anyone is a retard for buying into it.

What bugs me is how mad some get if you don't automatically agree with them.
It's not like a lot of this stuff can be proved by objective data, like gravity.

It's often said , the people that really know, don't talk.
The people who don't know much tend to speak out the loudest LOL.

I've watched a lot of conspiracy shows and read countless books on everything from UFO cover ups to who shot JFK, etc

In terms of politics, I think a lot of it is like WWE pro wrasslin'.
It's heel vs good guy or red team vs blue team.

Lastly, I don't think you're totally wrong or crazy when it come to this "deep state" stuff.
I honestly believe the public only gets  to see,  I dunno, maybe 10% of the game.
The stuff you (or Hannity) outlines is just the tip of the iceberg.
Even we knew the whole truth , its' doubtful guys like us could do anything about it.

Have a nice day and thanks again for posting a detailed reply. I appreciate it.




If anyone thinks Trump or Hillary care about the avg working slobs, WAKE UP!

unfounded conspiracy rumors ? the case(s) I have written are actually being investigated criminally. Are you saying the DOJ/FBI would investigate an unfounded conspiracy rumor ??

Seriously try watching something other than CNN/MSNBC bro !

[Dos Equis]

unfounded conspiracy rumors ? the case(s) I have written are actually being investigated criminally. Are you saying the DOJ/FBI would investigate an unfounded conspiracy rumor ??

Seriously try watching something other than CNN/MSNBC bro !

Seriously.  Or just watch a few clips or podcasts of Dan Bongino.  He will educate you ("Howard") on the Russia scandal. 

[Soul Crusher]

Seriously.  Or just watch a few clips or podcasts of Dan Bongino.  He will educate you ("Howard") on the Russia scandal. 

Howard eclipses all in the dumb department

[The Scott]

I guess I'm not as smart as those who can see the "TRUTH" on this deep state stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes

Not as "smart"?  What you are is ignorant and that of your own choosing.  More could easily be said but there is no need. 

[IroNat]

Remember, class, there is no such thing as a dumb question.

Howard, go ahead and ask.

[Soul Crusher]

I may seem dumb to you , but at least I admit,  I don't know a lot of the covert details behind  GOV operations.
What amazes me is how  convinced some of you are that you KNOW so much more then the avg person (like me).

(Again) I sure as fuk don't have all the answers, but I know enough to realize one basic fact:
Guys like you post a lot of silly theories with no proof, then  get mad if we don't buy into the bullshit.

"Ignorance is Bliss" is a phrase that was coined with you in mind. 

[Board_SHERIF]

LOL, good getbig zinger  

I'm smart enough to realize I don't know all the details on various GOV issues.

BUT, you're fooling yourself if you think YOU ( and others like you) have gleened some real "insider info". You haven't.
The vast majority is some entertaining source that claims to let you in on the real secret info, nobody wants you to know.
It extends existing ideas out there in the political ether.

For example, some people wanted to believe Obama was born in Kenya.
The birther conspiracy was proven to be total nonsense and some refuse to accept that.
The 9/11 Truthers wanted to believe that the Twin Towers were blown up by VP Dick Cheney or similar crazy idea.

We all want to feel informed and that's why many us crave to learn the "real information".
From the few hard facts, I've learned, most of the real truth is pretty mundane.

In my case, learning about the truth on alien life and UFO's has been a passion of mine.
I was able to read a well documented book on Area 51 by Ann Jacobson.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=area+51+annie+jacobsen&hvadid=77996681331091&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&tag=mh0b-20&ref=pd_sl_96g9xmchz2_e

The FBI and CIA were very successful at using alien UFO's as an effective cover to hide the real truth on covert spy planes , stealth and drones.
In the 1980's strange black triangles were spotted in the Neveda dessert and at various locations around the globe.
No, it wasn't an alien space craft. It was the initial prototypes of the stealth air craft.

The U-2 spy plane was given the official cover story of being this high altitude "weather research" plane.

Back in the 1970's we'd overfly the old Soviet Union with our SR-71 Blackbird spy plane.
It could be spotted, but could out run AAF missles with a top speed of  mach 3.5 ( faster then a rifle bullet !).
When the Russians complained we were spying on them, we'd reply;
" Oh no, that's not us, we don't have anything that can fly that fast. It must be an alien UFO."

Repeated for the second time my friend.


unfounded conspiracy rumors ? the case(s) I have written are actually being investigated criminally. Are you saying the DOJ/FBI would investigate an unfounded conspiracy rumor ??

[chaos]

Howard eclipses all in the dumb department

I don't get it, he claimed to have a PhD and teach at a university, but plain old common sense just doesn't resonate within his feeble little head.

[Board_SHERIF]

I don't get it, he claimed to have a PhD and teach at a university, but plain old common sense just doesn't resonate within his feeble little head.

even FBI investigations are now fairy tales in his head 

[mazrim]

That was all bullshit along with my 8 marriages.
I barely got a GED and spent 40 years working in a factory ( recently retired).

I believe you've used this line similarly twice now. Do you think factory workers are stupid?

[IroNat]

That was all bullshit along with my 8 marriages.
I barely got a GED and spent 40 years working in a factory ( recently retired).

 

Another of my heroes turns out to have feet of clay.

[IroNat]

You never know what the truth is revealed behind the cpu screen LOL.
I never served in the USMC and only competed once in bodybuilding but got dead last ( 5th out of 5).
I dropped out of HS but the factory had an adult ed program GED program , so I go that.

Sounds funny, but I worked my way up to 3rd shift supervisor in the drill bit room.
Almost got injured when a lathe broke off and flew out a few times.

I was married once before but she left me years ago for some local politician.
Not sure if I'll ever get married again, but ya never know.

For example, I always thought Coach was a closet case and it turns out...he really is

Damn, Howard, I'm really bummed you weren't actually married 8 times.