This oughta be good. ;D
People are posting on mayhem that titus and his wife are supposeddly charged with murder. I hope its not true but wanted to let y'all know as it'll be out soon anyways.
-bull
This Criag Titus guy always seemed like the non-violent, non-confrontational type. I heard he did lots of community service recently, and spent time in the Peace Corps in his younger years.
No one could have seen this coming.
that's just crazy talk.
Ironic they did a cameo on Law and Order...
http://smackdaddymusic.com/nbc.htm
that's just crazy talk.
Ironic they did a cameo on Law and Order...
http://smackdaddymusic.com/nbc.htm
You think i am kidding, thats old news maybe you should do some research. he went for 2 or 3 years i believe. i am not trying to talk shit about the guy, i have met him before and he is really nice. just stating the facts
Um, because Craig Titus is a prick who brags about his willingness to throw down at the drop of a hat when he's disrespected.
Um, because Craig Titus is a prick who brags about his willingness to throw down at the drop of a hat when he's disrespected.
Prison mentality like that doesn't belong on the streets.
BETIL > TITUS
How do you know that?
YIP
Zack
Um, because Craig Titus is a prick who brags about his willingness to throw down at the drop of a hat when he's disrespected.
Prison mentality like that doesn't belong on the streets.
BETIL > TITUS
I never said I wanted to see Titus in jail, like your hypocritical, hating ass just did. LOL Didn't you just challenge a guy 2 weeks ago to a fight for saying something to you on an internet message board? You're such a homo, Rob.
I could just easily see Titus killing a dude that said something cross to him, and I could see Kelly willingly going to the chair with him for helping him try to cover it up.
Titus threatened to hospitalize me a few months back. Not a very nice guy, if you ask me.
Don't be a pawn, Jeff. You're better than that.
if he did 5 would you like him any better?
Besides, you think Craig would be shedding any tears if any Getbiggers got arrested for murder?I dunno. Never thought about it.
Prison mentality like that doesn't belong on the streets.
Tell us what madness you've witnessed.
Was it the crazy intense FLEX photo shoot where he did smith BB row sets with Kamali, where they wore spandex and got oiled up and yelled when they dropped the 25 pound plates?
You dont need to bring your homosexual dreams to the internetsure he does. it's his reality lol
eh, chill out. It's probably just a rumor that he invented to hype his own name anyway.
I never met Hitler. But I'm still pretty sure he was an asshole.
I missed out on the whole Dinosaur/meteor thing. But I'm pretty sure it sucked.
And I've never met you Jeff. But I'm willing to bet you're a drama queen in person.
ah but you've spoken to me on the phone, Jeff. You know in person I'm a stable, consistent, focused, business-minded individual. With my web business, I give clients exactly what they ask for. The site is not complete until they are satisfied.
On the web, I'm a clown. Who cares, man. It's only a message board.
Rob…. You're taking a beating by McFarland. I mean, you're really getting killed here. Are you ever going to stop with you're bull shit?
they had a "lovers' spat" and parted ways.
so did the titus' and there house pet!
they had a "lovers' spat" and parted ways.
OK, it is true and sad. They killed their housemate. This is no rumor guys. What a shame, a young girl is dead.
Disgusted is a very reliable source.
Can you share any more details, man?
Holy crap, this is real..
eh, chill out. It's probably just a rumor that he invented to hype his own name anyway.
that's how this game works. Craig can't bring it onstage, but a rumor like this keeps him in the mind of the prospect, and keeps him on contract with his sponsors.
Once his name is cleared, he'll bash the message boards in MD while the great Romano eggs him on.
Don't be a pawn, Jeff. You're better than that.
Yes, it's so sad that 240 wants graphic details and a story providing detailed explanation of motive/intent, if available. Hey, I'm still with him when he's right...
Why do you switch user name all of a sudden?
YIP
Zack
nah i have 3 different computers on and I'm following this thread as I switch from doing laundry to watching MNFootball.
Rob, I've gotta hand it to you. You redefine "multitasking."
nah i have 3 different computers on and I'm following this thread as I switch from doing laundry to watching MNFootball.
nah i have 3 different computers on and I'm following this thread as I switch from doing laundry to watching MNFootball.
Why then did your other handle get logged out the instant you logged in with this user name?
YIP
Zack
because I hit the little "x" in the corner of the IE window?
::)
Doesn't log you out bro.
YIP
Zack
Yes, this is all old news:
(http://www.smackdaddymusic.com/saving.gif)
hahaha aw f**k ya crazy
240 were you drunk when you put that comedy together
"This oughta be good." ;D Ha ha ha ha...it's the universal response to a scenario like this. Meanwhile, true to form, everyone on Mayhem's already like, "Oooh...I sure hope this is just a rumor!" LOL We'd ALREADY be let down if it turns out to be that. It's nothing against Craig or Kelly, shit, we just love the drama and the study into human nature it offers. I think everyone always wondered what'd come of that couple, anyway. LOL This would make as much sense as anything, would it not?
What did you see in Mayhem again?
Refresh me.
DIV
If it's true, then it's really a sad event. Something horrible.
If it's all true, a life has been ended prematurely.
And hopefully, they are innocent.
Zack
When did that ever stop the Internet? ;Du mean if i run a google it might show up? :)
Besides, does anyone really have a hard time believing this about the Tutuses? That should tell you something right there.
The plot thickens:
http://www.kvvu.com/Global/story.asp?S=4246749&nav=2Nix
Christ, how many dead bodies are found in Vegas every day?
What was the name of that movie? Natural Born Killers?
The IFBB could end up with a movie deal after all. ;D
Yeah, except the original rumor was a girl stuffed into the trunk of a Jag and set on fire, now there's a news story out of Vegas describing the exact same scenerio?
The IFBB could end up with a movie deal after all. ;D
It wasn't always like it is now, man.
You know this.
;D
I have heard about this from two different reliable sources. I sure hope it isn't true but from all that I have heard it most likely is. I know of one guy who has already been contacted by the police about this. This is really a shock.
I have heard about this from two different reliable sources. I sure hope it isn't true but from all that I have heard it most likely is. I know of one guy who has already been contacted by the police about this. This is really a shock.
I used to catch on fire in NBA Jam.
My money is still on Titus not being involved.
However, he HAD to have been contactd about this.
So, every minute that he doesn't post a denial on the boards shows that 1) He likes the rumor 2) He might be guilty.
Still, I think it's just a rumor.
I spoke to Craig on a number of issues a few days ago. This was not one of them. Come on guys...
Hey I like Jeff and have always found his posts to be inforative and entertaining, or atleast one of the two. Ever since the old Bolex days.
But Jeff I have one question. Were not you and Rob both members of team Adonis? what happend man ?
FREE CRAIG AND KELLY
I know someone died, so I'm not trying to be an asshole.. but this is very exciting... this is more exciting than the last 5 mr. olympia's combined
BTW
if they transfer titus to the same prison as Bertil Fox, they can have a master's pose down
;D
I actually think Getbig is entering another "Golden Era" as of late. ;D
Just when I thought this place was getting boring...
Your imitations of DIV here must be especially unflattering to him...because I KNOW he's feeling what I'm saying in this thread right now. LOLLOL
Welcome to teh unfunny.
It
...is
.....your
........destiny
Welcome to teh unfunny.and don't carry even a 1/4 of the balls or drive that Titus does
It
...is
.....your
........destiny
What convinced you to make permanent residence here?
I was suprised that you actually did.
I fully expected you run back to the comfort of Mayhem......
DIV
might not be funny but it is true :-\
Go read the replies in Mayhem's Craig and Kelly Murder thread right now. The juicier the story gets, the more vehemently in denial are the posters in that thread insisting to themselves and the rest of the world that they "sure hope it's just a rumor." Santiago's got 2 of them in there now. LOL I wonder how they'll react when the picture posted of the victim proves she was hot.
This thread has been going on for few hours now.
Surely they must issue some sort of statement or denial if they really are innocent...
TOMCAT is the tabby in your garbage cans... looking for scraps.
It's ONLY funny when I do it, fuckface.......
Until then you're just another cat on my porch...........nugga!!!! ;D
Lord knows if it happens to be true, their whole world will come crashing down.....
eh, Jeffrey?
DIV
Yes. Titus and Kelly aren't going to bring home chipchop when their bellies are used to steak. She's gonna be hot, if it's true.
Also, as I read it, this IS the Gossip board. Until Titus denies it, this is undenied gossip.
Who's Dennis Alexio?
I've done a few websites on Craig in my day ;D
But I'm on my best behavior. There will be none of that now. Especially since Craig may have bigger fish totorchfry.
They killed Kamali already?
He is kickboxer. He played Jean Claude brother in some movie.
He is kickboxer. He played Jean Claude brother in some movie. He is some idol here. He always fought washed up guys here. Always seemed to kick the guys out of the ring.
Just saw on news. Federal agents arrested him while he was training. It was for unpaid child support in California. Theysaid he yelled at the judge disagreeing with him but not letting him out on bail. Then he yelled at his attorney for not defending him right. He is on his way to California.
From Mayhem:
Confirmed: This is what I was told by a reliable informat.
Dec 13th (The innocent till proven guilty by a court of law)...otherwords this is all speculation till then foolio's!
On the 13th of dec. The party in question took the life of a female and placed her in the trunk of a Jag and set it on fire. But never reported the car stolen and was questioned by the police later the next day when found. The party in question was found today to have purchased some liquid explosive on a credit card. Seven units from a local hardware store.
The party in question is claming it is all false. But other sources close to the party are saying they were in formed that night (13th) and said They was told it was related to Idenitiy Theft problem. There was no other option.
I was told off the record there was illegal compounds involved and the wife was heavliy under the medacation of the compound in question. And that the Manion was informed today as well.
Now other then that.......this is a small world. And we must never assume anything till it is proven true.
Please for the love of GOD, dont let this be true. I think the party in question is an awesome athlete and been an inspiration of mine for many years. As well as the wife involved in this debate. waiting as well for outcome......
Hell, he is in more shit than Craig might be -- Deadbeat Dad is a serious offense here. :P
I don't believe for one second those two had anything to do with a murder.
i'm good friends with kelly, and was renting a house from she and craig. the rumors are true, that they are suspects, but they have not been arrested at this time. i saw them about 24 hrs after all this went down, that's all i'm going to say.
on mayhem a reliable source says the rumor is true and that craig and kelly are suspects but not charged yet.
tre, it's me ;)
nothing is known by the public at this time. no one involved in this case has been arrested. please pray for the victim's family, they are sick with grief.
i do not believe the body has been identified, but there is a missing female who used to live with kelly and craig. she was an old friend of kelly's, and kelly allowed her to stay there while she was going through some rough times. her family is in FL, and they are understandably very upset. my thoughts and prayers are with them, this must be a tough holiday season for them.
....question, 240....if you can't post on mayhem cause you've been banned, then why do you cruise that site?....aren't you only on getbig to make those big dollars you talk about? Aren't you a businessman who only comes here to make money for yourself?.....hmmmm.
You said earlier that in real life you're normal, but here you're a clown.
If you changed the word clown to 'complete psychopath with bipolar tendencies' then I'd agree with you.
i do not believe the body has been identified, but there is a missing female who used to live with kelly and craig. she was an old friend of kelly's, and kelly allowed her to stay there while she was going through some rough times. her family is in FL, and they are understandably very upset. my thoughts and prayers are with them, this must be a tough holiday season for them.
This Criag Titus guy always seemed like the non-violent, non-confrontational type. I heard he did lots of community service recently, and spent time in the Peace Corps in his younger years.
No one could have seen this coming.
And I've never met you Jeff. But I'm willing to bet you're a drama queen in person.
I couldn't see either one of them planning and executing a murder, but here's what I could see...
...some chick dies in their house from something like a drug OD or sex-play gone wrong, and instead of calling the police they panic and say "oh shit! we've gotta get rid of the body!" If there's any truth at all to this rumor, I'd guess it would have gone down something like that.
tre, it's me ;)
So we're not dismissing this as bullshit?
afraid it's true, bigdumbbell. Raven beating up on packers, and I just got my suit dry cleaned.
You easliy gave it away that you have one suit. Yeah a real businessman. Just stop man! Just stop! You can go on with the funny posts. But stop with the businessman title. You do not deserve to call yourself a businessman.
work doesn't just fall into my lap. Well, getbig work does. The rest of it, I go out into my community and talk to local business owners. Find out what field they're in, where they stand in terms of market share, and work out how they can reach more of their target market, or grow the market size thru vertical or horiz integration. I don't need a suit when I'm going to a body shop or sign store... but if I'm going into an ad agendy, reat estate, etc, it gets you in the door and talking to a decision maker.do you wear your cowboy hat when you go to the gay businesses to find work?
and yeah, i only have one nice suit now. I don't wear it very often, and I don't weigh 240 yet, so there'd be no point in going out and buying a few.
With the money I save, I can invest in a good defense attorney the next time I decide to kill and torch a roommate ::)
and yeah, i only have one nice suit now. I don't wear it very often, and I don't weigh 240 yet, so there'd be no point in going out and buying a few.
With the money I save, I can invest in a good defense attorney the next time I decide to kill and torch a roommate ::)
52?
Kelly Ryan owned a Jag.
When the cherry-red Jaguar pulled up in front of my Las Vegas hotel, the gathering of on-lookers couldn't help but glance over. This car was hot! As I approached, the driver inside rolled down her window to offer a ride. The body behind the steering wheel was nearly as hard as the car's polished steel frame.
The Jaguar, built on an assembly line by a team of automotive engineers, paled in comparison to its driver, who was built from a lifetime of sweat and passion. In the case of the driver, her brief stop at my hotel was just a quick detour on her journey toward becoming the best professional fitness athlete her sport has ever seen. Just like the Jag, Kelly Ryan is driven.
Ten minutes later we pulled into a quiet, obscure neighborhood that has become home to Kelly and her outspoken husband Craig Titus. The pair has made their share of headlines, but within the confines of this quiet street, life is peaceful, predictable and orderly.
If there is any truth to these rumors, it would seem that they are being framed . . . surely no one is so stupid as to think that dousing a car with 5 or 6 gallons of a flammable substance and setting it on fire would be enough to conceal a crime . . .
At the same time it would be a great way to be able to say "Hey, do you think I am stupid enough to do that!"
Have any of those investigative news shows on TV ever done a true story on the subject of amateur and professional bodybuilding, or are there just too many higher ups that would go down as a result of an honest look into the subject matter?
The TRUTH would make one hell of a great movie!
First of all, this is a rumor. There is NO proof that they are even remotely involved in any of this. So lets all treat this is what it is - a rumor. And that is how it will stay for now.
Second, Craig & Kelly could be off on a vacation for a day or so. And they haven't seen nor heard anything about this rumor. So until there is word, that is how we are treating it - an unverified rumor regarding their involvement with these murders.
As much as I would like to joke on this matter, this matter is no joking one. I can't nor will go into details on things until there are facts.
How about once we all find out what the true facts are, we start thinking of a logical defense that would eventually be pursued.
I can tell you the defense already:
"She did it!"
"What?! He's lying! He did it! I wasn't even there! I was on the floor passed out for 2 days."
"Hell no! You're my bro, right judge? Don't believe a word she says, bro's and future girlfriends in the jury. I was the one who was passed out. She did it!"
Etc.
They say the girls name was Melanie? Any news on this?
billy carp is involved................ ...
(with jaguar) ;)
Several people are saying that they've already been arrested. A search of the Clark Country inmate database doesn't show any results. I wonder if someone could call their information line to verify?if they are being held they're not on inventory
http://www.co.clark.nv.us/Detention_Center/ccdcWelcome.htm
The police will be able to find the owner of the jaguar by the cars V.I.N. (vehicle identification number).All cars have them.The little plate at the leading forward edge of the dash at the side of the roof pillar.You can see it by just looking through the windshield.All cars on the road that are registered need to have that info I think.
Are you serious?? Where did you find out about this?
Are you sure this is true? I mean, this is big news if you turn out to be right.
Are you serious?? Where did you find out about this?
Are you sure this is true? I mean, this is big news if you turn out to be right.
Obviously, I am not.
However, the more information in the open, the sooner we will learn the truth about what happens.
I want to know if Craig tried to cover up an OD by torching his own wife's car.
WOW does everybody here got shit for brains? If it were true it would be all over CNN!!!!!!
Now I know you are joking.& why is that billy boy
I KNOW DUDE! BBING IS A HYOOOOOGE SPORT!
IF ANY BBER COMMITTED A CRIME, ALL THE MAJOR MEDIA OUTLETS WOULD BE COVERING IT!!!!!
COME ON BILLYCARP, YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS MANNNNN!!!
;D
Kelly Ryan drives a Jaguar.....Big whoop....a lot of people drive Jaguar.
If this was total BS Craig would have issued a statement here a long time ago. A rumor about murder would have been squished a long time ago if it had been that. Not saying they did it but they have to be involved somehow in this thing.
dude this is crazzyyyyyyyyyyy
i wonder how the magazines will spin this....they probably will just ignore it all together and have an article about "new and improved pec blasting workout" or maybe another rendition of "symmetry vs the freaks", or better yet "Jay has sights on 2006 O, this year he will not lose"
Please shut the f**k up about the dumb rumors unless there is some hard evidence.
Innocent until proven guilty.
SHUT THE FU.CK UP, VINCENT!
2 Works, nugga:
MAGIC
..........STICK
.................... >:(
You will NEVER live this down.
You promised Finaplix and you came up short.......
Feel this.
DIV
dude this is crazzyyyyyyyyyyy
i wonder how the magazines will spin this....they probably will just ignore it all together and have an article about "new and improved pec blasting workout" or maybe another rendition of "symmetry vs the freaks", or better yet "Jay has sights on 2006 O, this year he will not lose"
But not everybody has their dead house guest in the trunk of their Jaguar while their Jaguar is burning in the desert.
If I missed it, it's because there are way too many pages to read through but has anyone else picked up on the fact that the thread starters name is BULL? ::) (and should probably be followed by shit)
Let's just hope that Craig and Kelly are not directly involved for a variety of reasons. BB has suffered enough the past couple of years and this will just be another nail in the coffin.I doubt this will effect bodybuilding if it is true. Did comedy suffer when Phil Hartman's wife committed murder/suicide?
I doubt this will effect bodybuilding if it is true. Did comedy suffer when Phil Hartman's wife committed murder/suicide?
I seriously doubt this rumor is true or there would be something out there on this already. Perhaps this is just a way to keep the names out there. Bad publicity is better than no publicity.
as far as a house guest rumor,,,,who's to say the houseguest didnt borrow the car, meet someone and then was killed by them? the burned car with the person in the trunk is the guest? and what if************************************, and then if #################, but if ############## happened than the could have occurred if. So then basically this is the the biggest BS until it's confirmed outside this BB
THIS JUST IN FROM LAS VEGAS
The hamburgler was was arrested in connection with the theft of thousands of whoppers from local burger kings.
THIS JUST IN FROM LAS VEGASSounds just as believable as the Titus story ;D
The hamburgler was was arrested in connection with the theft of thousands of whoppers from local burger kings.
I was told that Craig and Kelly have taken off, possibly to Mexico.
If they see this on the way-dye your hair
allegedly - here is the latest as what people are saying
1) kelly and craig are in jail since saturday
2) it is allegedly said that the girl that was in the trunk took kellys credit cards and used them to run some big bills
3) drugs / od / rage may be a factor in this.
4) no official charges have been made
5) no official las vegas comments have been made
6) no official news organization nor internet sites have said anything
Yeah, like that'll take attention away from the fact he's a 250+ lb bodybuilder. ::)
This just in...
your parents raised an unfunny child.
Where does it say that the vehicle (Jaguar) containing the charred remains of the victim belong to the Titus couple ??? And how are they connected to this particular homicide?
here is the latest as what people are saying
1) kelly and craig are in jail since saturday
2) it is allegedly said that the girl that was in the trunk took kellys credit cards and used them to run some big bills
3) drugs / od / rage may be a factor in this.
4) no official charges have been made
5) no official las vegas comments have been made
6) no official news organization nor internet sites have said anything
Where does it say that the vehicle (Jaguar) containing the charred remains of the victim belong to the Titus couple ??? And how are they connected to this particular homicide?
does anyone know anything for sure?
We know gambling is legal in Las Vegas, and at one point Craig & Kelly owned a Jaguar. Beyond that, we're just making this shit up as we go along. ::)lmao :-X
I love how some people are actually expecting to see Craig come on here and set the record straight....you WON'T be seeing it people...let the dream die...in the trunk of a car. :P
Story with video:
http://www.kvvu.com/Global/story.asp?s=4238916
According to sources with the Las Vegas Police Department, there is no arrest of either Craig or Kelly in the last week logged in any of the books. It doesn't mean they were not brought in for questioning.
If he's not in teh pokey, how come no one has been able to track him down to get the real story?
Well, these threads have been going for three days, and it's very telling that in that time not one person, either here or on the other board, has come on and said something to the effect of "I talked to Craig or Kelly and this is total BS".
That could be due simply to the fact that no one reading these boards is an attorney or spokesman for the couple.
That is the wrong story -- that was the older chick in the Lake Meade area.this it? http://www.kvvu.com/Global/story.asp?s=4246749
does anyone know anything for sure?ronnie seems to have torn a tricep ;D
ronnie seems to have torn a tricep ;D
this it? http://www.kvvu.com/Global/story.asp?s=4246749
Nope that is the same one I believe -- the Toyota.
It is true. Talked to a close family member of Craig's who confirmed it. And no I will not reveal who it is so don't ask. Time will prove this to be true.
It's true that they killed her, or it's true that they're being investigated? Obviously, there's a big difference between the two.
I just spoke to Peter McGough, the main person behind Flex Magazine and he says there will be a major development later today -- and it's not good news for Craig or Kelly.
No disrespect, but I think you mean it is not good news for the victim of this tragedy and that if Craig and / or Kelly were somehow involved they are going to get exactly what they deserve.
This is crazy... I heard anyways that Craig & Kelly were possibly banned due to almost forming another organization that didn't even make it. So that could be what McGough was talking about, or it could be that McGough knows something we all don't know.
HOS
This is crazy... I heard anyways that Craig & Kelly were possibly banned due to almost forming another organization that didn't even make it. So that could be what McGough was talking about, or it could be that McGough knows something we all don't know.
HOS
Disgusted, Billy -
I agree with you totally and also with your statement that Ron "did not mean it that way". At the same time I do hope that Craig and Kelly are really "innocent' of this crime.
In the majority of cases I have read about in today's day and age, (1) the blame is always placed elsewhere and (2) there is little concern for the victims.
It will be interesting to see if it goes the "normal route" in this case too, but I sincerely hope that some unknowing defender or prosecutor does not place the blame on steroids which appears to be today's standard and the easy way of explaining things.
what's the update since last night at 10 30 pm? lol
if he's linked to any of this and convicted he's goin to prison for a longgggggggggggg time.
Craig did threaten to hospitalize me recently... I think the dude might have been serious
Disgusted, I bet ya a dollar to a doughnut that in the end this will prove to be an accidental death and the stupid manner in which it was handled after the fact due to the circumstances under which it occured .......and, YES, beyond AAS, but AAS will suffer the consequences nonetheless.
Time will tell and in the meantime this site is gonna break all records.
I always wondered the mentality of this.
Someone OD's with you or gets choked out during sex. So, instead of calling the police and getting a manslaughter beef, you get a murder/evidence tamper mess.
Your probably right on both points. People tend to panic and I can't really say that I blame them. When an accidental killing happens there is usually some over zealous prosecutor who wants to charge you for murder even if they know your innocent. Lets assume that this was accidental. There is no way in the world any prosecutor would pass on the opportunity to go after an ex felon. Especially one like Craig.
Let's say this girl OD'ed in their house.
Providing there was no blood action this would have been easy to cover up.
The girl lived there so her dna and prints are supposed to be there.
So long as you put the body somewhere so it can never be found you can simply say she walked out one day and was never heard from again... Providing there was no body and there was no blood there'd be no crime to prove.
I cant be bothered to reinstall acrobat reader, can someone sum up what that pdf says, thanks.Warrant on Titus and Ryan and 3rd suspect. Titus and Kelly are on the run.
ok just got confirmation from my nevada conections!........craig was charged with murder!
Not trying to be a smartass, but are you serious?
I blame Chad
Indeed.
Has the victim's name been announced yet? I know the name but I sure as hell don't want to be the first one to break it here :-\
Who is this Anthony Gross dude? A bb'er by any chance?
A third suspect has been identified as 23 year old Anthony Gross. Gross is in custody and has been booked into the Clark County Detention Center on charges of accessory to murder and third degree arson.
This might be total bullhsit.....I just ran the name Anthony Gross though the Clark County inmate records and they have NO PERSON by that name in the Clark County Jail.......I smell bullshit!
http://redrock.co.clark.nv.us/ccdcincustody/inCustodySearch.aspx
He'll put all the blame on the Titus'
While it's sad that someone died, Craig was kinda an asshole, eh?
He'll put all the blame on the Titus'
While it's sad that someone died, Craig was kinda an asshole, eh?
um kell and craiggers each have the no bail arrest warrants.
not anthony gross
This might be total bullhide.....I just ran the name Anthony Gross though the Clark County inmate records and they have NO PERSON by that name in the Clark County Jail.......I smell bullshit!
http://redrock.co.clark.nv.us/ccdcincustody/inCustodySearch.aspx
um kell and craiggers each have the no bail arrest warrants.
not anthony gross
OH LORD IS THIS A HOAX ?
......I smell bullshit!
The News Article said it was CT and KR's 28 y/o female roommate.
Who knws who their roomie was?
OH LORD IS THIS A HOAX ?no! i also heard from my nevada connections that the victims kidneys were missing :-\
Call Lt. Tom Monahan, Homicide Section of the LVMPD and tell him what you think.
Phone number is 229-3521 not sure of the local code - I'm in the UK
no! i also heard from my nevada connections that the victims kidneys were missing :-\
Las Vegas area code=702
Ok, so call 702 229 3521 and tell Tom Monahan that you think his investigation is Bullshit :-)
Ok, so call 702 229 3521 and tell Tom Monahan that you think his investigation is Bullshit :-)
oh great wait until court tv and nancy grace get ahold of this storymy sources tell me that John Walsh is doing a story on it for american most wanted as we type!
Vegas people are reporting this is on the news out there and Craig and Kelly are on the run, police are still looking for them. Vegas News is running it as one of their stop stories.kell and craiggers if you are reading this all i have to say is:
Oh no - who is going to push Pinnacle products now?They still can, I heard the have a new fiery product that can shed pounds of water and fat in minutes
Just confirmed with Las Vegas Metro PD.........Anthony Gross is indeed in the big house on murder charges..........
Just confirmed with Las Vegas Metro PD.........Anthony Gross is indeed in the big house on murder charges..........
Did you actually make a call to confirm this?
I have heard the other two are in custody as well -- but that is yet to be confirmed.
Yes.
As of 15 minutes ago they (Titus ir Ryan) were not in the County lock up-only Gross. If the have been arrested it may be in another jurisdiction-like Mexico!
What a sad story. I feel for the victim's family and them people who loved them..
As of 15 minutes ago they (Titus ir Ryan) were not in the County lock up-only Gross.
They are still on the run from the police and "others"
"others" ?2nd that??
There has got to be a good Made For Television movie in this mess.yeah chick can play titus before prison!.......and tom prince can play the titus in prison :D
Chick can probably play Titus.
yeah chick can play titus before prison!.......and tom prince can play the titus in prison :D
Yeah, I have my guest room all ready for them.
ABC News Las Vegas is doing live news from Craig & Kelly's house at the moment, once at 4pm, once at 5pm, and coming up at 6pm.i hope this becomes national news....
The police issued a search warrent and raided their house today, looking for any evidence they could find on what happened.
why would this dumbass leave a burning car a half mile from the highway where people can see it.
There has got to be a good Made For Television movie in this mess.
Chick can probably play Titus.
ABC News Las Vegas is doing live news from Craig & Kelly's house at the moment, once at 4pm, once at 5pm, and coming up at 6pm.
The police issued a search warrent and raided their house today, looking for any evidence they could find on what happened.
are you middle class ?
come on craiger turn yourself in!..... only the guilty run!
let's all pray for craigs and kellys safe trip to florida!
Do they have the death sentence in NV?i think so! but it takes like 10 years before they frie them!
i think so! but it takes like 10 years before they frie them!
"others" ?
Do they have the death sentence in NV?
Majorca, Spain?
Do you know how long it takes in CA?fascinating :o
We have 650 prisoners on death row and average 1 per year...........so if you kill someone here and get the injection-your chances of acutally getting put down are very, very slim.
roman polanski is living in france
jacko is in barain
You haven't watched lost?
does this mean they'll be no after contest parties next year ??
Watched what ?
There was an Australian businessman Christopher Skase that pulled some big time schemes with his billion dollar company that went bust and he headed to majorca, Spain and for some reason Australia couldnt bring him back, and majorca wouldnt send him back.
Big time schemes aren't murder.
Yeah, I have my guest room all ready for them.
Screwing thousands of people for Billions of dollars gotta be close. Just saying how corrupt the Majorca government is
Cuba is the best bet....
I wonder why they killed her. Usually when you kill someone its for a reason. Now the fucking retards are kicking themselves for not burying her in the desert.no! no! we need to pray for the innocent victums!
The problem with Cuba is it is a thrid world country that does not even have indoor plumbing for the majority of the country.......
But they do have free health care ;D
Your Mom won't mind?
This is my guess, Titus was having an affair with the victim, Kelly found oud and told him, "if you love me, you"ll kill her"He did, probably with Kelly's help
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=46117.0
He posted this 8:18 pm, on Dec 12th.
The car was found burning at 4:40 am, on Dec 13th.
Either a woman died after his post, and they created and executed the body disposal plan...
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=46117.0
He posted this 8:18 pm, on Dec 12th.
The car was found burning at 4:40 am, on Dec 13th.
Either a woman died after his post, and they created and executed the body disposal plan...
Or, Craig Titus may have posted here to later use as an alibi in court.
Hmm...
THE IFBB HAS JUST ANNOUNCED THEY HAVE SUSPENDED CRAIG TITUS AND KELLY RYAN FOR CONDUCT DETRIMENTAL TO THE ORGANIZATION.does anyone know if they suspended bertil fox when he was charged/convicted of murder?
I have inside information that Kelly and Craig are busy putting together a childrens book as quickly as possible, in hopes that the judge might show some mercy. The books will be about the dangers of steroid abuse and ectasy.
Is this the poor lady ?
One possibility is that she was just borrowing the car and Craig and Kelly weren't involved...but why would they flee?
las vegas is a trashy place
Maybe b/c they did it?
What other reason would there be?
YOU ARE TRULY GAY IF YOU MADE THAT
Man I'm hungry. I think I'm going to get some Pinacle Products for lunch.dont waste ur time on the andro popers lol just grab some Dbols or A's
Actually it's pretty funny ;D!
The above post is Classic! ;D
But possible from when he was last in jailmust be
o lookie here...the bible thumper is happy about this...she was found strangled in the trunk....why would they strangle her if she was already dead from an OD?
my guess and 2 cents..probably not murder..
drug OD in some possible 3 sum excursion...and an idiotic way to get rid of the odee
do you have verification she was strangled? that would be huge newsi heard it somewhere around here mayhem or a news story, ill do some backtracking...
I wonder what accelerant was used. Gasoline? Alcohol?some "liquid explosive"
well if the killed a poor defenseless girl...then both titus and kelly need to fry for it...i doubt kelly killed anyone, you never know though. i think she just went along with craig in panicking, getting rid of the body etc.
"others" ?
i doubt kelly killed anyone, you never know though. i think she just went along with craig in panicking, getting rid of the body etc.
Ok heres what i think happened , Craig and kelly were swinging with this chick and things were getting all freaky in the bedroom you know those whips and paddles and shit , anyways things got heated and Craig was trying to hit this girls climax by strangling her a bit , the thing is i was watching George Carlin and he said that alot of deaths come from trying to hit this extreme climax , Craig prolly gripped her neck to hard for to long and she was choked out no oxygen to the brain instant death , now they both were involved here so they prolly contemplated what to do for several hours , it was either turn Craiger in or come up with a master plan , and they made the wrong choice .
Damn, that would be premeditated... :-\even if she was already dead..?
why would this dumbass leave a burning car a half mile from the highway where people can see it.
On the 13th of dec. The party in question took the life of a female and placed her in the trunk of a Jag and set it on fire. But never reported the car stolen and was questioned by the police later the next day when found.
vander v had a good theory on mayhem
That's actually the most retarded thing I've ever heard.i guess i wasnt sarcastic enough..? :-\
I wonder if he charged himself $300?
Hey vin numbers don't burn! Who knew?
I don't think Nevada kills people
Happend a week ago? Their long gone, but it's just a matter of time!
I've just received confirmation from Peter McGough of FLEX magazine that Craig Titus has been charged with murder. Full details are available at www.flexonline.com. KMH
Edit: (Ron)
Here is the complete information on here, thanks to Peter McGough...
http://www.getbig.com/news/2005-04/051221titus.htm
Well, this Video Clip brings it home.
Las Vegas News Today!
http://www.klas-tv.com/global/video/popup/pop_player.asp?ClipID1=622746&h1=Las%20Vegas%20Bodybuilders%20Sought%20in%20Woman%27s%20Murder&vt1=v&at1=News%20-%20Special%20Coverage&d1=31333&LaunchPageAdTag=News&activePane=info&playerVersion=1&rnd=6284281
Sad but true.
Shawn
i used firefox and didnt load... so i used IE and it worked fine.. try it!
thanks for the clip shawn!
bummer to hear bout titus and ryan... man, ryan's a hot chick! :o :o :o
This has to be one of the most amazing threads in the history of this board - yet no pros and rarely an expert has posted. Usually Shawn, Milos, or somebody would say something - anything. I wonder what those in the industry think or have heard.
On a different note, does anybody know much about Kelly BEFORE she met Craig. Is this the type of thing that she could be talked into? Was Craig just a terrible influence on her life as the relationship went on? I guess I don't know how she was before she met the ex-con...
i used firefox and didnt load... so i used IE and it worked fine.. try it!
thanks for the clip shawn!
bummer to hear bout titus and ryan... man, ryan's a hot chick! :o :o :o
Actually Nevada kills allot of people, except you never find them.
That really sux for everyone involved...(watched the video)
No.
From NBC-3 Las Vegas
One week after police discovered a badly burned body in the truck of a car, they say they know who is responsible. Police are looking for the victim's roommates, Craig Titus and Kelly Ryan.
Titus is wanted for murder, Ryan for accessory to murder. A third person is already in custody on other charges. The victim's name has not been released. We do know she's a 28 year old woman. She was found murdered last week in a desert area along Blue Diamond Road.
hahahahaha. Everyone is worried about Titus. Why doesn't anyone care about the little hussy that was killed?
http://www.craigtitus.com/
you think i can still get a "team titus" t-shirt off of his site?
Nobody will recognize Titus from the photo released by the Las Vegas police. ;D
They should have called Ron to get a current photo!
(http://getbig.com/news/2005-04/122105titus09.jpg)
Were there witnesses?
apparently titus was the landlord of someone who posted on MM and here, perhaps they can shed some light on the matter.
Why is no motive being given in the press yet? Surely whoever turned in Mr. Gross talked to a media outlet too . . .
Does the IFBB really have the clout to hush these matters up . . . or is LV just so jaded that they just don't care about burned bodies turning up in the desert at 4:00 am?
Edit: it is, of course, possible that Mr. gross was merely the fourth room-mate . . . but then he would be a "person of interest." People don't get arrested for murder w/o a good reason.
lol. The cops used that photo because it adds to the sensationalism of the whole thing.that's what i was thinkng.
Does this mean the titus baroni fight is off again
I think Titus killed this chick just so he'd have a good excuse not to have to fight Baroni.
Must be the GH.
So was he taken into custody or is he on the run? Someone give us the scoop.
He's on the run.
$50 says he does something really bone-headed that gets him caught within a week.
:o
Ok Lets be honest after storming off stage when losing, going to prison, and then becoming the official thrower or the rolling parties I am not to surprized by all of this I mean are you? I mean given his raves tantrums and substance abuse its not completely shocking
What does need to answered though is 225lbs his weight at arrest or on his license??
At least be jacked when the man comes for you
2 things may have happened here. The girl overdosed on drugs and they dumped her. (doubtful)
She didn't pay rent when they asked her to. (not likely)
She was banging Titus, Ryan found out, he flipped on the girl and killed her. Threated to kill Kelly if she didn't go with him to dump the body. (bingo)
Guarantee drugs were involved some way. The whole roid abuse sometimes is accompanied by cocaine, ecstacy, oxycontin...etc. Of course, there are many who take gear and that's all though. Either way, it's a fucked up sport with some fucked up drug abusing people...end of story. Some good people as well though. Gunter, Shawn Ray, Priest, seem like ok guys..and shit, Titus seemed pretty cool as well. You never really know someone until they strangle you and put you in a Jaguar, then burn you up. What a shame.
Croatch on...
how do you explain that other guy who was charged with murder along with them as well? do you think titus and the other guy were double teaming the girl or what?
She was banging Titus, Ryan found out, he flipped on the girl and killed her. Threated to kill Kelly if she didn't go with him to dump the body. (bingo)
Here's the Video Clip:
http://www.klas-tv.com/global/video/popup/pop_player.asp?ClipID1=622746&h1=Las%20Vegas%20Bodybuilders%20Sought%20in%20Woman%27s%20Murder&vt1=v&at1=News%20-%20Special%20Coverage&d1=31333&LaunchPageAdTag=News&activePane=info&playerVersion=1&rnd=6284281
o lookie here...the bible thumper is happy about this...
my guess and 2 cents..probably not murder..
drug OD in some possible 3 sum excursion...and an idiotic way to get rid of the odee
has anyone taken into consideration that craig and kelly could be in danger also, the actually killer could be holding them or could have killed them also. just a thought, trying to stay open-minded
I'd say person number 3 would have fed the cops a story already.or told a version of the truth
or told a version of the truth
No sport has more fickle, fair weather fans than bodybuilding.
Show up on the Olympia stage without striated glutes or fail to make the top 5 in an IFBB show and you are unmercifully flamed in every bodybuilding forum on the internet... it's usually the rats who first jump off a sinking ship.
Titus wouldn't be the first person to be charged with a crime he didn't commit - whatever happened to being innocent until proven guilty?
The same people who are finding morbid pleasure in the indescribable torment and pain of another human being are probably the same people who got their kicks pulling the wings off flies when they were children.
I don't know what really happened, YOU don't know what happened and the police don't know what happened...
I'm trying to remember Craig the way he was the night I met him - a fierce competitor who lit up the stage and enjoyed meeting me as much as I did meeting him.
What a bunch of scumbags the bodybuilding community can be sometimes.
how do you explain that other guy who was charged with murder along with them as well? do you think titus and the other guy were double teaming the girl or what?
craig and kelly could be in danger also, the actually killer could be holding them or could have killed them also
Two words. O.J.
I know old chap.
I know, old chap.
Nu Years' resolution to self: photoshop myself out of shot.
just another case of a ifbb pro having super human genetics weighing under 200 lbs off the sauce ::)
He's probably still much bigger than u, c unt.what is a c unt?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
why would this dumbass leave a burning car a half mile from the highway where people can see it.
Clark County District Court online records indicate that Household Bank sued Kelly A. Ryan in March 2004 and that the case was closed in May 2005, but a Citibank South Dakota lawsuit filed in March 2003 against Kelly A. Ryan is still unresolved.
I'd rather die, than go to jail for life.
News report..
And he was in jail from 1997 to 1999 as a result of drug conspiracy charges. The San Francisco Chronicle reported that his convictions were steroid-related.
In a past interview posted on Bodybuilding.com, Titus is quoted as saying: "I'm so sick of hearing about natural (steroid-free) bodybuilding. Point is, every sport has athletes who use performance-enhancing drugs. The tragedy of the decimation of an athlete's character and career does not come from using steroids; it comes from the illegality of being caught."
The San Jose Mercury News, writing about a federal steroids probe last year, reported that Titus was one of several pro bodybuilders who had been subpoenaed for possible information. The subpoenas were part of a mounting nationwide effort by authorities and the Bush administration to crack down on the sale and use of steroids in professional sports and beyond. There are no indications that Titus was ever criminally charged as a result in connection with that federal probe.
Lee, what is your take on all this?
How freakin dumb is it to post a pic of him in contest shape. They did this to add to the drama but in reality no one is going to recognise him as he looks now, not even the fans.oh stop how can you miss that jaw
I'm sure it will get pinned on "roid rage" erroneously
she ate up the bad boy routine the way many women do :P
E
Craig if you and Kelly are out there.....GOOD LUCK
:-[
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=47727.0;id=50191;image)
No sport has more fickle, fair weather fans than bodybuilding.
Show up on the Olympia stage without striated glutes or fail to make the top 5 in an IFBB show and you are unmercifully flamed in every bodybuilding forum on the internet... it's usually the rats who first jump off a sinking ship.
Titus wouldn't be the first person to be charged with a crime he didn't commit - whatever happened to being innocent until proven guilty?
The same people who are finding morbid pleasure in the indescribable torment and pain of another human being are probably the same people who got their kicks pulling the wings off flies when they were children.
I don't know what really happened, YOU don't know what happened and the police don't know what happened...
I'm trying to remember Craig the way he was the night I met him - a fierce competitor who lit up the stage and enjoyed meeting me as much as I did meeting him.
What a bunch of scumbags the bodybuilding community can be sometimes.
Does anyone want to buy a nice house in Las Vegas?
http://sandgate.co.clark.nv.us/servlet/Assessor?instance=pcl7&parcel=163-30-612-016
Does anyone want to buy a nice house in Las Vegas?
http://sandgate.co.clark.nv.us/servlet/Assessor?instance=pcl7&parcel=163-30-612-016
Just amazing.
That amount of money wouldn't even get you a condo on zero land here in SoCal.
Just amazing.
That amount of money wouldn't even get you a condo on zero land here in SoCal.
Just amazing.
That amount of money wouldn't even get you a condo on zero land here in SoCal.
Are they even hooked up?
you beat me to it tre. i was going to say you could get a shack for 500k in west la. i didnt know vegas was that cheap the way the city is growing.
Houston's the same way... it's a fast-growing city, but you can get a freakin' mansion in a high-end neighborhood for $350k. It mainly has to do with the easy availibility of land coupled with the cheap Mexican labor in the construction trade and the low tax rates.
That is very true -- But, did you notice that they have 5 bedrooms in a 3000k sq foot house? I find that odd -- esp in a two story house.
That is very true -- But, did you notice that they have 5 bedrooms in a 3000k sq foot house? I find that odd -- esp in a two story house.
They needed those extra bedrooms for their live-inlovershouseguests!
Depends on what neighborhood you're talking about. IF it's something like Northgate, your numbers are off by a few hundered thousand (for MAnsions).
That is very true -- But, did you notice that they have 5 bedrooms in a 3000k sq foot house? I find that odd -- esp in a two story house.
Yeah, I'm guessing the home office is counted as a bedroom just for the sake of the tax assessment.
One thing is certain, though - I'm leaving SoCal next summer so that I can go buy myself a home! :)
Thanks for sharing your story man.
And the picture.
YIP
Zack
I'm interested if the company will stick with him until any guilty verdict is found, or if they'll drop him for the bad press he's already getting.
hey Ron,
don't you feel a little foolish for basically dismissing this "rumour" as fiction, earlier in this thread?
hey Ron,
don't you feel a little foolish for basically dismissing this "rumour" as fiction, earlier in this thread?
hey Ron,
don't you feel a little foolish for basically dismissing this "rumour" as fiction, earlier in this thread?
hey now, dont hate on ron. he spoke to craig a few days ago and craig didnt mention anything about setting a dead chick on fire.
HAHAHA, what an idiot.
I challenge Titus to a weigh in if he's over 225 he gets $10,000.0
you know he's gonna wuss out and not show up to this weigh in.
0
Because we all know that's at the top of his list of things to do... ::)
Unless Craig and Kelly have cash on them, it will be tough for them to get too far - else credit card receipts will track them easily...
Does anybody know where the manhunt is concentrating? Las Vegas? Elsewhere?
Unless Craig and Kelly have cash on them, it will be tough for them to get too far - else credit card receipts will track them easily...
Also, did they have a second car? I imagine that is what they did/will use while on the run...
Actually, it's second... right after "1) Burn the body of the chick I killed last night".
Does anybody know where the manhunt is concentrating? Las Vegas? Elsewhere?
Unless Craig and Kelly have cash on them, it will be tough for them to get too far - else credit card receipts will track them easily...
Also, did they have a second car? I imagine that is what they did/will use while on the run...
close...you forgot his steroids
Will this make Titus the "Death Row Pro" now?
MOS
That's why you'd have to be a fuccking idiot to live in SoCal (no offense)... unless you're making millions of dollars a year, your standard of living is going to be considerably lower than it would be in many other desirable areas of the country due to the ridiculous housing costs.
This is kind of interesting:
Name: Titus
Posts: 719 (0.984 per day)
Position: Pros
Date Registered: December 22, 2003, 11:17:16 AM
Last Active: December 12, 2005, 11:17:50 PM
Maybe Craig plans to pimp Kelly out for spending money?
count me in
how can we get keith to stop posting that same titus pic over and over again?
Vegas, some parts of Phoenix, San Antonio and others are real estate bargains with great weather. Solid houses in Vegas for 100-150K; you can put a nice all-year covered outdoor gym and jacquzzi in the backyard.
LA, SF, San Diego prices are insane.
you look good old protein
really cut for someone that is a senior citizen ...u just need some size/mass
Man maybe Dog the Bounty Hunter will find him
I think Titus and Kelly brought her in the house because Titus wanted some 3-way action and Kelly wanted some lesbian action. Swingers baby! These parties he host must be swinger parties. They must have got coked up, and Titus in his drug induced haze, decided to burn the body. The Gross guy might be a coke dealer.
photoshop a funnier one to take its place!oo ok ok lol
oo ok ok lol
j/k keith!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=47727.0;id=50207;image)
He looks better than the real Titus.
Unfortunately this “swingers” behavior has been happening for years. And through the years, I have notices various “victims”/ posters try and post events that happened in the Titus house. – But they ALL have been deleted! Just can’t help wondering now, that if certain admins didn’t delete certain statements that the Titus party train wouldn’t have continued for so long. We all know they attracted many aspiring fitness and figure competitors to their “training” camps and parties.
Putting no blame on no one, just a thought that the truth must be told.
:P
that's kinna harsh dontcha think?
good man!!!!!!!!!!!
your in much better shape than i am gramps......my hats off to ya!!!
WTF was he thinking burning the body in his own car?
Bury the body somewhere out in the desert. Simple and effective.
Craig's gotta be the dumbest criminal on the face of the earth.
Titus had the most dense and vascular arms I have ever seen... he had to be seen to be believed, no picture could leave the impression that standing next to him caused. His arms looked like they were covered in flesh colored garden hoses - I'll never forget it.
This is kind of interesting:
Name: Titus
Posts: 719 (0.984 per day)
Position: Pros
Date Registered: December 22, 2003, 11:17:16 AM
Last Active: December 12, 2005, 11:17:50 PM
I'm sorry but you have to get out more
^You don't know the power of the "Dark Side"......
DIV
DONE!
There is that silly Gatorade in the background. I can hear you getting fatter -- ummm, bigger.
>:(
Do you guys own a rodent? What the hell is that "thing"?
yes... and it's a chinchilla
yes... and it's a chinchilla
Vegas, some parts of Phoenix, San Antonio and others are real estate bargains with great weather. Solid houses in Vegas for 100-150K; you can put a nice all-year covered outdoor gym and jacquzzi in the backyard.
LA, SF, San Diego prices are insane.
http://www.chinchilladas.com/chinchflash.html
yes... and it's a chinchilla
Mike, it's nice to see that his hair grew back. Make sure you dont wrap him in duct tape anymore ok, you little freak you! ;D
Mike "outgrew" the gerbil.
A chinchilla was the next step up.
They used to call him "The Elastic Donut Hole" in bouncer school. Dunno why.
That's why you'd have to be a fuccking idiot to live in SoCal (no offense)... unless you're making millions of dollars a year, your standard of living is going to be considerably lower than it would be in many other desirable areas of the country due to the ridiculous housing costs.
Will someone PLEASE think about the children!!!
Nah.... they've already got it figured out with a new slogan.... "Use Pinnacle products and murder your competition!"
So you're saying that Ron IS an accessory, due to too much deleting on Getbig.com? Interesting.
Hear that Yaroni? No more deleting! ;D
I bet it was the Horny Goat Weed that triggered this shit......
(http://workoutsupplies.com/images/Product/V9295sm.jpg)
and to think anyone would ever say our industry isn't whole hearted and a true sport.... I see more and more societies attempt to bring it down (its a wonder why)...
Did anyone see that Nextel commercial with the punk kid who takes a picture of muscle beach on his phone.. imagine's himself in a mash-pit... and there is Little Hurk who trains him to be a bodybuilder... and later in life he is on stage, and all you can see are the judges gasping and all of the sudden the competitive bb is on a hospital bed getting rushed through the ER...??
could anyone care to enlighten me on this?
I can't say I am surprised these two went out like this... Bonny and Clyde, no?
Sarah Dunlap
On a serious note: I remember reading in some magazine where Titus was being interviewed ( I think it was musclemag) about how Kelly's family ( who has $$$) didnt want her marrying ex con Titus and that he supposedly had to charm and convince her dad to allow it to go down. Now his little girl is on the run for murder. Also where the hell are the pros with respect to this shit? I havent seen a post from chick or shawn ray or anyone...
Yeah, I remember that article too. Kelly’s Dad wanted no part of Titus. It’s a shame. :-\
OUCH!!! ;D
Just out of curiosity, Sarah, which do you think is more damaging to the sport in the long run...
Craig and Kelly being charged with murder, or...
... chicks who look like men?
I just gotta say, if Craig is guilty then it's really sad because he's basically thrown away his life over this. He had a second chance after doing time before. Now his life is over, to say nothing of his career. And all for what?
On a serious note: I remember reading in some magazine where Titus was being interviewed ( I think it was musclemag) about how Kelly's family ( who has $$$) didnt want her marrying ex con Titus and that he supposedly had to charm and convince her dad to allow it to go down. Now his little girl is on the run for murder.
Doesnt anyone else think it is strange that they burned the car right on the street?
Because he was too st00pid to bury the body out in the desert somewhere instead of burning it in his own car.
A Muppet wouldn't have made that mistake, right Dan-O?
Because he was too st00pid to bury the body out in the desert somewhere instead of burning it in his own car.
A Muppet wouldn't have made that mistake, right Dan-O?
where the hell are the pros with respect to this shit? I havent seen a post from chick or shawn ray or anyone...
Richard Abowitz in the LA Times claims that Titus won the 2002 Olympia. ::)
http://vegasblog.latimes.com/vegas/2005/12/we_have_another.html
Richard Abowitz in the LA Times claims that Titus won the 2002 Olympia. ::)
http://vegasblog.latimes.com/vegas/2005/12/we_have_another.html
Even at it's best, Titus and Kelly are going to be affected by this allegation.
Wow.
I read all the postings on th is thread. Im in disbelief! I cant believe this is happening!
Now the media is going to eat this up claiming riod rage and making the sport look bad.
Do you think this could hurt the sport of bodybuilding and fitness?
Its amazing how many people are affected by this. All the families, the business associates, the whole bodybuilding industry is getting one black eye after another.
Vegas, some parts of Phoenix, San Antonio and others are real estate bargains with great weather. Solid houses in Vegas for 100-150K; you can put a nice all-year covered outdoor gym and jacquzzi in the backyard.that is a rediculous statement. the weather in phoenix is 110+ half the year, in san antonio its worse....its 90+ for 8 months of the year and so insanely, constantly humid that you are sweating at all times. we have good weather in san antonio in december and march, thats about it.
LA, SF, San Diego prices are insane.
why would this dumbass leave a burning car a half mile from the highway where people can see it.
i can already see the media blaming it all on steroids ::)
The Mr. Olympia comments were from a weblog, check your facts. A separate LA Times article is accurate.
http://vegasblog.latimes.com/vegas/2005/12/we_have_another.html
If I was in Creig's moccassins, I guess I'd run too.
ANd the only "logical" choice would be south into Mexico via Phoenix. Tucson and across the border via Nogales and make a run for Hermosillo or Ojinaga / Presidio.
If I was the "Dog" I'd position my people along that route and in every gas stationa and on the border and just sit and wait unless they got across already.
What position does Mexico take on going into Mexico to hunt for US citizens running from the law?
ANd just how long can you run without the cash in your pocket? Did anyone check yet into their bank withdrawals?
I don't think anyone, friend or foe. would be dumb enough to offer sanctuary but wasn't it once a Religious tradition to do just that? Once in a church, they could not drag you out? Lots of churches in Mexico.
Last thought, Craig was raised in Tx. Anyone see him heading off in that direction?
AND.......... it would be very interesting to see if any law inforcement personnel and/or the criminal defense or prosecution visits this site for detailed information and matters of scuttlebutt.
Anyone know if those kind of folks evey do rely on boards such as this during the hunt?
If I was in Creig's moccassins, I guess I'd run too.
If I was the "Dog" I'd position my people along that route and in every gas stationa and on the border and just sit and wait unless they got across already.
Last thought, Craig was raised in Tx. Anyone see him heading off in that direction?
I would be on the lookout for any fanny pack purchases in the southwest United States.
I smell a Wag the Dog scenario!
....240, can you comment?...this takes the heat off you in many ways PLUS you've already threatened violence on members of this board. What say thee?!?!?!?
And now you have an operational website to garner more coins.
Explanations!
FREE 240
craig needs to do the right thing here.
I would be on the lookout for any fanny pack purchases in the southwest United States.LMAO, and those weird hats he wears, what are they called
the weather in phoenix is 110+ half the year, in san antonio its worse....its 90+ for 8 months of the year and so insanely, constantly humid that you are sweating at all times. we have good weather in san antonio in december and march, thats about it.
if BBing goes down, i lose the sport i like and many customers.
craig needs to do the right thing here.
There is that silly Gatorade in the background. I can hear you getting fatter -- ummm, bigger.
I read all the postings on th is thread. Im in disbelief! I cant believe this is happening!
Now the media is going to eat this up claiming riod rage and making the sport look bad.
Do you think this could hurt the sport of bodybuilding and fitness?
Man, I really feel bad for Kelly Ryan. I remember first seeing her when she won the Fitness America Pageant but back then she looked like a plain normal looking woman, a lot smaller than what she is today and very wholesome looking then.
This makes me feel bad for the both of them. Im shaking my head in dismay...
I understand it makes you into a killer -- ummm, in the gym.
So to come to the conclusion that the alleged killers thought that burning the bodies was a bad choice is a bit premature. There have been a number of bodies burned in cars in the Nevada desert. Using your own vehicle to do the deed is a bit dumbfounding to say the least.
The problem is, fire attracts attention. Even though a lot of evidence would likely be destroyed, the body will be in the hands of authorities in relatively short order, and then all they have to do is match it up with dental records and missing persons reports, and bingo... they know who the chick is, and Craig & Kelly come under investigation. Also, with strangulation, a small bone in the throat usually gets broken, so they would even have the cause of death.
No, they needed to make the body disappear. The best way would be a properly dug grave. Maybe they should have put the body in a chest freezer in their house until they could scout out the exact perfect remote spot, then take their time digging a grave of proper depth. Either way, they needed to think this through instead of being stupid and panicing. They chose not to, and it will end up costing them their lives as they knew it.
jeffery dahmer opted for the freezer.
I would be on the lookout for any fanny pack purchases in the southwest United States.
Jerry, apparently you don't know much about the long, sullied, history of bodybuilding (amateur and pro)! Going back to at least the 1940's, often serious, competitive, BBers, generally speaking, don't have much education, aren't "too bright"-an understatement!-are usually unemployed, and don't do much else except workout, lay around the beach/gym, and then "raise hell" in the evenings! Sort of like a bunch of irresponsible teenagers that never grew up and accepted adult responsibility! They usually claim that their efforts at BB "takes too much out of them" to allow time for them to be socially responsible citizens in society!Richard...tellin' it like it is! Preach, brother! ;D
When these amateur/professional BBers couldn't make enough income off of their fag "fan support base", they supplemented their income with burglaries, muggings, robberies, murder, and, in recent years, illegal drug use/trafficking! Why, around 1959, the original Muscle Beach was closed down by the enraged Santa Monica city fathers because of a series of crimes committed by several Muscle Beach BB "residents", topped off with a statutory rape charge.
Why, Craig Titus' latest alleged murderous criminal act is merely a continuance of this long, checkered/tainted 60-odd year history of the criminal bodybuilding "lifestyle" in the general public/media spotlight. In recent years, the accusation of 'roid-rage has been added to the laundry-list of abberant socially-unacceptable/criminal behavior of "bodybuilders" in the public eye!
While there are many notable exceptions to the above statements, they sadly have applied (and still do apply!) to many amateur and pro. BBers (and wannabees) over the past six decades...and have duly received a lot of negative press!!
By the way Jerry, BB is NOT a sport...it is rather a backroom, closet, cult supported by mainly fags, schmoes, and a BB "industry" which tries to deceive you as to how the top BBers actually built their bodies and, in turn, fleece your pockets by trying to sell your worthless food supplements, courses, equipment, etc.!
I suppose if they had a wood-burning fireplace in their house they could have opted to try to burn the body there, but that would first involve cutting the body into smaller managable pieces. Even assuming they could stomach this, there are potential problems with this method, blood being the most obvious. They could try to neatly drain the body of blood first, but even that would leave trace evidence in their drain pipes. However, if they could manage it without leaving blood evidence in their house, they would be set... the body would be consumed by their fireplace, and any small leftover bone fragments could easily be bagged up and put in a dumpster somewhere.. and that would be the end of it.
I suppose if they had a wood-burning fireplace in their house they could have opted to try to burn the body there, but that would first involve cutting the body into smaller managable pieces. They could try to neatly drain the body of blood first, but even that would leave trace evidence in their drain pipes... the body would be consumed by their fireplace, and any small leftover bone fragments could easily be bagged up and put in a dumpster somewhere.
Any idea peeps?My guess is he's too stupid to have gotten out of the country.
CT & KR , if you can log on from somewhere give us your side of the story.....
My guess: he is headed to Mexico...
at least he will still have a great supply of gear down there...
but didnt they bust a bunch of pharms down there? :-\
also if cornered do you think titus will surrender or go down in a flame of glory??
>:(
But couldn't you clean the blood out of the drain pipes with bleach?
You have too much free time; are you speaking from experience?
My guess is he's too stupid to have gotten out of the country.
It won't be long before he's caught. ;)
Always go to the source-a wood chipper might be easier, whatever model Hussein was using in Iraq.
Always go to the source-a wood chipper might be easier, whatever model Hussein was using in Iraq.
tons of blood and tissue would be left in the chipper itself.
also if cornered do you think titus will surrender or go down in a flame of glory??
His arms looked like they were covered in flesh colored garden hoses - I'll never forget it.Understood.
On a side note: I'm wishing more goth chicks were in to working out.
Would make things so much easier, William. >:(
DIV
But couldn't you clean the blood out of the drain pipes with bleach?
ammonia gets out blood stains. to mess up the luminol, splatter pigs blood everywhere and then wipe it down
Yes, but where would Craig find a pig at that time of the night? There's no place on the strip selling pigs?
In a word NO............ever heard of the chemical luminol? No mount of bleach or any other chemical, will make the blood residue disappear....
Yes, but where would Craig find a pig at that time of the night? There's no place on the strip selling pigs?
I just hope he dose not off him self that sure would suck
Shit! Just saw on MSNBC a five minute interview with Det. Monahan.
They have "substantial evidence of Titus' guilt"...and Craig was having an affair with the deceased.
This shit has made it to national coverage?
Meat tenderizer might do the trick or some other type of enyzme containing product.
Shit! Just saw on MSNBC a five minute interview with Det. Monahan.
They have "substantial evidence of Titus' guilt"...and Craig was having an affair with the deceased.
No way.....luminol reacts to hemagloban in the blood, and that cannot removed short of fire............
I think it only reacts to the iron in the hemoglobin, but I may be wrong.
I've just received confirmation from Peter McGough of FLEX magazine that Craig Titus has been charged with murder. Full details are available at www.flexonline.com. KMH
Edit: (Ron)
Here is the complete information on here, thanks to Peter McGough...
http://www.getbig.com/news/2005-04/051221titus.htm
Yeah, they should have gone for the Jeffry Dahmer thing... stowed it in the fridge, gone out to a secluded spot, dug a very deep hole.
Earl will be posting shortly because of the "its not a sport" statement.
The best way is to get ahold of my freind who has about 6 tigers. He won't feed them for a couple days. I promise there won't be anything left of anyone after hungry tigers get done. There is millions of acres around Vegas to bury a body. It has been done that way for decades.
There is no good way to get rid of a body.
Fresh corpses to the most badly decomposed bodies, forensic scientists attempt achieve the answers to three key questions: who is the victim, when did he die and how did he die.
BURYING
Analysis: A buried body decomposes about six to seven times slower than a body dumped above ground. This improves the chances investigators will determine identity, time of death and cause of death. Almost all buried bodies are found in very shallow graves that are easily discovered. Veteran homicide investigators say this is because killers do not appreciate the time and labor involved in digging a grave large enough to accommodate a human body. "Nobody digs a hole 6 feet in the ground to bury a murder victim," said Lt. Wayne Petersen, who commanded the homicide unit from 1996 to 2001. "Thank goodness criminals are lazy."
On the other hand there is the option of burning the body.
BURNING
Analysis: Forensic pathologists examine soft tissue in determining a person's identity and how they died. But when flames consume all flesh and organs, they are often left with little to work with. When you burn a body, you can get rid of bullet trauma and sharp force wounds. They can be kind of obliterated along with the soft tissue. This necessitates the expertise of a forensic anthropologist. Such experts can often determine a cause of death through examination of skeletal remains. If the teeth are recovered, identification is typically easily made through dental records.
So to come to the conclusion that the alleged killers thought that burning the bodies was a bad choice is a bit premature. There have been a number of bodies burned in cars in the Nevada desert. Using your own vehicle to do the deed is a bit dumbfounding to say the least.
Got this from a reliable source.
Guest threatened to go to police about Titus dealing steroids. Heated argument. Titus choked guest, went further than intended, guest dead.
Titus and Ryan are already in Brazil.
Titus and Ryan are already in Brazil.
It'll be a lot easier to run from the law at 220 than at 260.
:-X
I was told they went to Brazil because there is no extradition, However, without a lot of reading, it looks to me as if the U.S. has an extradition treaty with Brazil.
To me, the story would be much more interesting if it was Phil Baroni who was found in the trunk of the car.
Yes they do.....a guy from LA wanted on a murder charge was just picked up there within the last 6 months......
I think hogs work the best -- think they eat the bones and all.
That is very true -- But, did you notice that they have 5 bedrooms in a 3000k sq foot house? I find that odd -- esp in a two story house.
Gators.
Not a lot of gators in Vegas. Pigs you can generally find anywhere.
Alot of pale hogs in Vermont..... ;D
DIV
Kelly during happier times. What a sweetheart she appeared to be. My gut feeling is that is had nothing to do with it but is just standing beside " Her Man "
You got that right (from what I understand).
My gut feeling is that we are going to learn A LOT about Kelly Ryan in the next week, months, years. None of it very pretty.
BEAR GREASE!
BillyCarp would like to bear witness
Can you imagine William slapping a gob of that bear grease on his girls' ass.......just slappin' that shit on! ;D
Get' 'er done........
DIV
I need to find some pics of the guys I hunt with for you.
A lot of army guys go hoggin' when they get R&R time at the local saloon.
DIV can speak on this, i'm sure.
I need to find some pics of the guys I hunt with for you.
The bear grease brothers? ???;)
DIV
Once you get to Mexico you can go anywhere in South America. Bodybuilders are like chameleons. IMO it will be pretty tough to get them if that is where they are. If they have some cash it won't be too hard to buy a new identity.
The bear grease brothers? ???
DIV
Specifically what?
SPEAK ON THIS.
DIV
Well, if you are married to an ex-con, who may deal drugs, is a pro BB, promotes after parties, leads a swinger lifestyle, and may have murdered his "personal assistant" I am sure they will dig up something.
Earl has turned to the "Dark Side" of the force......
The days of his posting "it's not a sport" are over......
He is now one of us......
DIV
That pic is not too far off.
???
btw dictionary.com
search "sport"
E
From early accounts-
Titus was a drug dealer who was threatened by a woman who said she would go to the police about his drug dealings if he reported her for fraud. Titus lost his temper and strangled her, then had the body burned. Then he fled the state and possibly the country.
If it's true, he's a drug dealer who killed a potential witness, burned her corpse, then fled the country to avoid prosecution. A criminal, not a hero because of his BBing past.
It's good to see there aren't people standing up blindly saying "Craig wouldn't do that" or "Give Craig a break".
So why are you saying free craig titus?
That's what scares me about you, William.
DIV
I know.
There is something to be said about guys who can shot deer as well in the dark as they can in daylight. 8)
You're a strange creature......
DIV
that site is awesome if you are a crazy enough idiot to pay to get the info on other peope.Need to know where a cop lives...this place is your friend...... ;D
Need to know where a cop lives...this place is your friend...... ;D
http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4276166
"Las Vegas Bodybuilders Sought in Woman's Murder
Dec 22, 2005, 08:36 PM
There is new information as police continue to search for two champion bodybuilders accused of killing a woman and then burning her body. A police report identifies the victim as 28-year-old Melissa James. Her body was found in a burned out car last Wednesday.
James was apparently strangled and then the car was set on fire. Police also say James was a personal assistant living with Craig Titus and his wife, Kelly Ryan. Also in the report, Titus admits to having an affair with Melissa James. Police haven't said if that's a motive.
Anyone with information is asked to call CrimeStoppers at 385-5555."
and tre coming through with the up to the second news!!! that was so like 2 hours ago tre dog.
I have come a long way -- but still have my roots.
All 100 threads must be updated...constantly. :)
They just said on MSNBC Titus is considered dangerous, and they don't believe they are still in Vegas.
240 would, but he sucks at Flash, which is why he only charges $300.
if you are going to choke one chick out, nothing to stop you from taking some others if they stand in your way.
if you are going to choke one chick out, nothing to stop you from taking some others if they stand in your way.
Chuck Norris does not hunt because the word hunting infers the probability of failure. Chuck Norris goes killing.
man, if he went on a murder spree, it would make bb look very bad.....
man, if he went on a murder spree, it would make bb look very bad.....
nobody gives two shits about bodybuilding now dude.
Will AMI make it front page news on the Enquirer. It might improve attendance at some shows if people think one of the pros will go crazy on everyone
How about this:LOL, even being very creepy, i really think this could work. You only have to do it right, and i think no one will ever know what happened
Chop the head off, and pull all the teeth out. Bury the head in a remote location. This should be much easier than burying an entire body. Undress the body, dismember it, and drop the pieces at various locations. It should only take a week or two for the remains to be rendered unrecognizable. Dump all clothes and blood stained utensils in a dumpster. Throw the teeth out along the highway.
LOL, even being very creepy, i really think this could work. You only have to do it right, and i think no one will ever know what happened
About someone that mentioned him in Brazil. Yes, the US have some kind of agreenment with extradition (sp?). But yeah, if Craig had some money with him, and was smart enough to make a new identity, or at least not doing anything stupid like buying something with his credit card , yeah he can hide here. If he went to places outside the major cities, he would never be found, thats just a fact . I live here and i know this for sure.
the dude choked a chick out, threw her in the trunk of a car, and had it drove into the desert and torched, and you are wondering about how it would make bb look if he killed more people?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
nobody gives two shits about bodybuilding now dude.
Agreed, to a point. Didnt you ever read Grisham's "The Partner"? That dude was living anonymously outside a major Brazilian city minding his own biz and they still found him. They spent a shitload of money finding him but I think that is key. If whoever is doing the looking wants you bad enough, has the money, you will be found! I say why not go where they would never look? Craig should get a single wide in the middle of phukin Oklahoma! 8)
There's a nice video update on Craig and Kelly at kvbc.com
Pumpster Said:Craig would whip your bit.ch ass.
"...If she's extremely submissive, she could be a nice person caught up in a mess; it's not impossible..."
Over the years, there has not been one...not ONE person to say an unkind thing about Kelly Ryan, even on "GetBig".
People often go on to say that she is one of the kindest, most giving people you have ever met. (I have never met Kelly).
Craig, quite frankly is a controlling thug; a guy who was lucky enough to make some money, marry a good woman, and smart enough to go out and get (and control) whatever he wants.
But a thug, nonetheless...
I think that we will find Kelly to be almost...and I can't emphasize ALMOST as much a victim as the woman that was killed.
Mufasa
How about this:
Chop the head off, and pull all the teeth out. Bury the head in a remote location. This should be much easier than burying an entire body. Undress the body, dismember it, and drop the pieces at various locations. It should only take a week or two for the remains to be rendered unrecognizable. Dump all clothes and blood stained utensils in a dumpster. Throw the teeth out along the highway.
... I do believe Craig is involved in the case in some manner. "Innocent until proven guilty", yes, but you have to wonder why this guy fled...C'mon now, O.J fled and he was 100% not guilty ;D
I wonder if there's not a pattern, a lot of BBs seem to have girlfriends or wives that are submissive, with the guy needing constant attention as the center of attention.I agree what is with that?
I wonder if there's not a pattern, a lot of BBs seem to have girlfriends or wives that are submissive, with the guy needing constant attention as the center of attention.
Bodybuilders dominate their women, as every men should. Seen King Kong? That's how the natural relatiuonship, between a man and a woman, should be.must be that massive 8 plates you do on the leg press that makes you such a dominating man, right "suckmymuscle", hahahaha. ::)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Buddism. :o Meditation. :P Isometrics. :-\ Calithenics. ;) Tanning. 8)
Holistic shit. Just like Survivor.
5 years but big deal...I bet she dose what ever he tells her she may have had nothing to do with the murder who knows.
End of the day NO woman would stand behind a guy who has put her in this position. Women are sneaky bitches man...
Over the years, there has not been one...not ONE person to say an unkind thing about Kelly Ryan, even on "GetBig".
People often go on to say that she is one of the kindest, most giving people you have ever met. (I have never met Kelly).
Craig, quite frankly is a controlling thug; a guy who was lucky enough to make some money, marry a good woman, and smart enough to go out and get (and control) whatever he wants.
But a thug, nonetheless...
I think that we will find Kelly to be almost...and I can't emphasize ALMOST as much a victim as the woman that was killed.
she had every chance to run from Titus.
That isn't exactly the same thing
If you want to run, you can run. Also, overdose? What part of overdose has ducttape and strangulation?
This is all still very hard to believe.
Most in depth report to date:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Dec-23-Fri-2005/news/5034653.html
They fled man, they are SO BUSTED.
But Titus and Ryan were set free after their interrogation because of a lack of evidence, and authorities presume the two have since fled, possibly to Greece.
let me tell you
dont assume Greece wont
persue american killers on the run :)
Im Greek, use to live there..my parents are there now, we have a homeout there.
Greek authority is NO JOKE..they will bust their asses.
I seem to recall that after 9/11 and before the Olympics, some changes were made in our extradition treaty with Greece.
Perhaps one of the lawyers on this board has the details.
I'm no expert in all this, but isnt Cuba his best bet? Not that far away, not likely to be evicted. I read that there are some american convicted murderers living openly there. Maybe its harder to get there than to get on a plane to europe.
must be that massive 8 plates you do on the leg press that makes you such a dominating man, right "suckmymuscle", hahahaha. ::)
Is that you Titus... Damn, you just keep on fucking up don't you.... :'(
They reply to each and ever single commentary, you make, with a snide remark, a challenge or a pretentiously witty put-down.
surprosed they didnt go anywher eelse...less connected to the US..
IRAN..lol..imagine if they wer ecaught by terrosits..and beheaded..lol..
God you're stupid, I could so drop you to your knees,, like I did your momma...
God you're stupid, I could so drop you to your knees,, like I did your momma...Lets not talk about God here, shall we. Especially about owning God.
Something I thought of... Maybe Craig and Kelly are having friends post false info here about where they currently are - knowing the police will read it. Come on, Bazil and Greece? Two wildly different locations for murders to be...
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Ron and Mayhem were contacted eventually. I imagine that they would want to know (if possible) what names Craig and Kelly posted under. That way if these names post some odd info here - saying they are in the Congo or something to throw of the trail, they would be able to get the IP address to help track them... (Craig would probably think he is being smart by doing this).
Violins, please.
They actually had them in custody long enough to allow parts of their stories contradict one another, then let them go.
Baroni was lucky he shit out of the fight
Titus if your out there reading this some place, hiding in a dirty South American Hotel
Don't give up keep running Go ! Go ! :'(
Right on man!!! All Getbiggers should back and support vicious, cold-blooded, illegal drug-dealing, murderers! Particularly, if they are a fellow juicer, and a pro. BB "hero"!Dont call him a juicer, Richard.
Most in depth report to date:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Dec-23-Fri-2005/news/5034653.html
A week before Craig Titus and his wife, Kelly Ryan, became fugitives, the professional bodybuilders met with Las Vegas homicide detectives about the dead woman who was found in Ryan's burned 2003 Jaguar.
Titus, 40, admitted to secretly having an affair with 28-year-old Melissa James, whose body was found in the trunk of the car. Titus and Ryan, 33, said James was their live-in personal assistant. They said that they had recently evicted her for embezzling from them, but that they had not filed a police complaint.
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Both told investigators that James had stolen Ryan's car, though they did not report the theft to police.
Titus and Ryan made those comments Dec. 14, hours after James' body was discovered in the torched Jaguar off state Route 160, according to an arrest warrant filed in Las Vegas Justice Court. The warrant was issued for 23-year-old Anthony Gross, an alleged accomplice in the slaying. Gross is in custody.
But Titus and Ryan were set free after their interrogation because of a lack of evidence, and authorities presume the two have since fled, possibly to Greece.
Titus and Ryan have since been charged with murder and third-degree arson.
Maura James, who on Thursday marked her 51st birthday by remembering her daughter with relatives in Florida, said she hopes the fugitives will soon be caught.
"I find it hard to believe they had anything to do with it because she trusted them as friends," she said. "I was shocked. I never imagined they'd be capable of doing anything like this."
Witnesses told police that Titus had said he would flee to a country that would not extradite him.
Las Vegas police Lt. Tom Monahan said Titus "mentioned that he has been to prison and has no intention of going back."
Titus was convicted of conspiring to possess and sell Ecstasy and served a couple of years in prison in the late 1990s after he tested positive for steroids.
Las Vegas police say that Titus killed Melissa James and that Ryan and Gross helped dispose of her body.
Ryan told police that after discovering funds missing from her accounts, she kicked James out of her $470,000 southwest Las Vegas home. The eviction came Dec. 13, a day before James' body turned up in the remote desert.
James packed a suitcase and Ryan, a former Ms. Fitness America, dropped her off at a convenience store, Ryan told police.
But Ryan and Titus contradicted each other when police asked them separately which vehicle Ryan had used to take James to the store.
"Ryan told detectives she used her Jaguar to take James to the convenience store," a police officer wrote in the report. "Titus said she used his silver Dodge truck."
Maura James, who lives in New Jersey, said she last spoke with her daughter about 11:30 a.m. Pacific Standard Time on Dec. 13. During the brief cell phone conversation, Melissa James said she was eating at a Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurant.
Maura James heard her daughter ask someone what they wanted to eat. She asked her daughter whom she was with, but the question went unanswered.
A short time later, Melissa James wrapped up the call and said she would call back after lunch.
She never called back and never answered her mother's follow-up calls.
The next day, a Wednesday, Maura James went to the Newark airport before 9 a.m. She was scheduled to pick up her daughter, who was coming home for Christmas. She said her daughter was also considering moving home to New Jersey.
Melissa James' flight arrived, but she wasn't on it. Maura James called her cell phone and left messages. Airport officials issued a page over a public address system. Maura James eventually returned home alone.
She later called Titus' cell phone several times and left messages.
"I thought she had been in an accident or something," she said. "I started calling hospitals in Las Vegas. Nobody had her.
"Thursday night is when I got the call from the coroner. ... She had been strangled."
Maura James said her daughter never mentioned being romantically involved with Titus, who married Ryan in Clark County in June 2000. Melissa James, who was a model and former dance instructor, had lived with the bodybuilders in Southern California several years ago.
Titus asked Melissa James to move to Las Vegas about two months ago, and she accepted, her mother said.
In the days before her death, James told her mother that she and Ryan were not getting along. She said she was staying at a hotel.
"I said, 'Why?' She said, 'Well, Kelly is flipping out and acting crazy,'•" Maura James said.
Titus booked the hotel room for two nights, from Dec. 12 to Dec. 14, and paid for it with a credit card belonging to Emperor Enterprises, a company he and Ryan own, according to police.
"He said he had spent most of one night with James at her room," investigators said in the report, quoting Titus.
Titus also paid for James' plane ticket home, her mother said.
On Dec. 16, two days after James' body was recovered, Amanda Polk, a young bodybuilder who had moved to Las Vegas to train with Ryan, contacted police with a tip. Polk met with investigators the next day and told them that she had received a phone call from Titus on Dec. 15 "saying he was in a bad situation (and) needed to get out of town for a while," police said.
Titus and Ryan went to the home of Polk and her boyfriend later that evening. Ryan hugged Polk and said someone had found her Jaguar burned with a body inside. During a car ride to dinner, Ryan confided in Polk, she told police.
"Ryan proceeded to tell Polk she had found their roommate, Melissa, dead in her room from an overdose," police said. "Polk said Ryan told her Melissa had been dead for a few hours and couldn't describe what she looked like because it would traumatize Polk for life. Polk said Ryan proceeded to tell her" that her life was ruined "because she bought seven bottles of lighter fluid at Wal-Mart with her credit card" at 3:30 a.m.
Investigators say Polk confronted Ryan and asked her why she hadn't called police when she found the body.
"Ryan responded by saying Craig told her, 'No body, no crime,'•" police wrote in the report. "Ryan told Polk she just did what Titus told her to do, that she thought Titus got someone to get rid of Melissa and she didn't kill anyone."
Police say Titus met with business partner Gregory Ruiz at a Subway restaurant in the Las Vegas Valley on the morning of Dec. 17.
"Titus told Ruiz he had to leave the country," an investigator wrote, adding that Titus had traded in his Dodge Viper truck for a new vehicle and intended to meet a friend in Boston to liquidate his assets.
Police obtained cell phone records that showed Titus called Anthony Gross in the early morning of Dec. 14.
Gross told investigators that he left his apartment in pajamas, filled up a can with gas and drove west on Blue Diamond Road until he saw flashing headlights from a Jaguar.
He told police that he pulled up beside the Jaguar, rolled down his window and handed Titus a metal gas can. He said he did not know what Titus did with the gas can and, though he gave Titus a lift back into town, the two never discussed what had happened.
On Dec. 14, before 5 a.m., a trucker saw the Jaguar ablaze. In the trunk, authorities found a body with white fabric around its neck and duct tape across the face.
An autopsy revealed that James had likely died from asphyxiation.
Police used the license plate on the car to trace the vehicle back to Ryan.
"I think they had hoped the fire would completely consume the car so that it would be unidentifiable," Monahan said.
On Wednesday, however, Titus and Ryan -- who have been on the covers of bodybuilding magazines -- were being identified on television news broadcasts as murder suspects.
Neighbors recalled Thursday that Titus and Ryan often had visitors, some driving flashy cars -- Ferraris or Mercedes. One neighbor described Titus as friendly, adding that his physique was noticeably smaller these days.
Titus, who graduated high school at 140 pounds, has often competed in the 250-pound range or more.
Police say he is now down to about 225 pounds.
A neighbor who did not want to be identified because Titus remained on the loose, said he had noticed another change in the man: "He's smoking. Before, he was not smoking."
Monahan said police have evidence suggesting that Titus' loss of size was causing him to lose sponsorship contracts.
Maura James, meanwhile, recalled something her daughter had once mentioned about Titus, Ryan and steroids.
"She told me that since he was getting older, he was not going to be competing as much," James said. "She used to tell me, 'Yeah, they took them when they were getting ready for competitions. And they would go to the doctor quite a bit for checking organs and things like that.'•"
Monahan said he believes authorities will find Titus and Ryan sooner or later, in part because of their high profiles and flamboyance.
Their capture might bring a measure of consolation to a grieving mother.
"You know what's so hard?" James said. "They burned my daughter so that we can't even see her again before we bury her. She is so sweet. She is so sweet and beautiful. I can't imagine anybody doing that to her."
Review-Journal writers Brian Haynes and Carri Geer Thevenot contributed to this report.
Something I thought of... Maybe Craig and Kelly are having friends post false info here about where they currently are - knowing the police will read it. Come on, Bazil and Greece? Two wildly different locations for murders to be...
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Ron and Mayhem were contacted eventually. I imagine that they would want to know (if possible) what names Craig and Kelly posted under. That way if these names post some odd info here - saying they are in the Congo or something to throw of the trail, they would be able to get the IP address to help track them... (Craig would probably think he is being smart by doing this).
this is one of the saddest days of of the entire fitness industry when a person as sweet and giving and down to earth as Kelly Ryan can be so caught up in the trashy and sordid world of Craig Titus that she is now on the run as fugitive wanted as an accomplice for murder.
this was coming...we all saw it...but personally I wish I had been wrong...
this should be a wakeup call for all the certain people who think they can play with fire but never get burned
Once they found out she was stealing,out she went, Craig prob. figured he'd go ahead & tap it one more time since he was there. You can be mad as hell , but a woman rubbing your c*ck always has a relaxing effect on you,at least on me it does. As far as murdering her, if & I say "IF" he was shooting nubain & coke , he was prob. so f*cking whacked out he didn't relize he killed her until he sobered up.
The reason they were released is because the interview was regarding the found vehicle, not who did it.
These two were caught in Canton, Massachusettes today!! :o
These two were caught in Canton, Massachusettes today!! :o
He's caught? Well I was hoping this thread would go on for another 25 pages ;DBahahahaha! You got that right! What idiots!
Anyway, I'm not surprised they were caught so soon - the whole crime and coverup was terrible. They would have had better luck hanging out in Vegas casinos...
Right on man!!! All Getbiggers should back and support vicious, cold-blooded, illegal drug-dealing, murderers! Particularly, if they are a fellow juicer, and a pro. BB "hero"!
somebody call em and confirm please
An F-B-I spokeswoman says the two were arrested in a supermarket plaza this afternoon.
you called? what did they say, they must be sick of the calls
nah, my bet is that Craig was slipping the meat to this twat behind Kelly's back and she threatened to spill the beans to Kelly and Craig flipped out.no way they both had her. one is as guilty as the next craig is lucky he didn't get strangled and set on fire, kelly has a temper. maybe it was kelly and not craig that killed the girl
You guys have to understand that beyond the minuscule scope of bodybuilding, no one knows much less cares who these two are. So chance of the police station getting more than a couple of calls is slim.Oh, how true a statement this is...and besides, how many guys aren't too paranoid enough to call?
Also, what is it with the assholes on this board? They reply to each and ever single commentary, you make, with a snide remark, a challenge or a pretentiously witty put-down. How bitter and sad, they must be, to have this hostile attitude all the fucking time. I feel sorry for them. :( :'(
SUCKMYMUSCLE
These two were caught in Canton, Massachusettes today!! :o
Well obviously there was a reason, but the fact that their stories didn't match should've slowed their release.
The thought of someone relying on gear for gains all those years, now having to actually lift natural and earn all the muscle...frightens me. I pray for Craig. ;D
C'mon now, O.J fled and he was 100% not guilty ;D
I've gotta say, It's crossed my mind and I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet, but for all we know this isn't the first time for Craig. He's a pretty volatile person. Maybe this time he just got sloppy. Who knows.
But like Shawn said, God help Craig and Kelly... and my condolences go out to Melissa's family, whatever kind of person she may have been, she did not deserve to die like that.
But like Shawn said, God help Craig and Kelly... and my condolences go out to Melissa's family, whatever kind of person she may have been, she did not deserve to die like that.
I'm curious how much weight Craig is going to lose before his trial
Actually Dan-O...very true.or when you reach 40 you mature out of criminal behavor
People with behaviour like this....usually it being a one time offense is not common.
it's a good thing that Craig can handle himself physically he'll prolly be fighting.
it's a good thing that Craig can handle himself physically he'll prolly be fighting.
I've just received confirmation from Peter McGough of FLEX magazine that Craig Titus has been charged with murder. Full details are available at www.flexonline.com. KMH
Edit: (Ron)
Here is the complete information on here, thanks to Peter McGough...
http://www.getbig.com/news/2005-04/051221titus.htm
Gosh damn.....I remember awhile ago, Craig had on his website that you can train with him and his wife. it was like a package deal, I think it was like over $400-500 or something. They would personally pick you up at the airport and drive you to their house where you could stay in their guestroom and later train with them and they would give you advice about nutrition and getting into the bodybuilding and fitness scene. And it even included meals provided by them as well. I think the package deal consisted of staying 3-4 days with them.
Im telling you...it could have been any of us on this board that could have became the victim if we signed up for that offer they were doing and became friends with them . Ive been thinking about this a lot.
I feel really bad for Kelly Ryan and Craig Titus. We have lost 2 great representatives of the sport we love...
I also feel bad for the victim as well. Moreso for Kelly Ryan and the victim that they will never or posibbly ever get a chance to bare children....
Right on man!!! All Getbiggers should back and support vicious, cold-blooded, illegal drug-dealing, murderers! Particularly, if they are a fellow juicer, and a pro. BB "hero"!
mansonvier, I am being serious. I am not making this up..I know a few on this board can validate this too...
This was the offer on Titus's site about staying with him and his wife....
Live with Craig Titus and Kelly Ryan for a weekend. Come to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada, the Sin City, and live at Craig & Kelly's home in their guest room with your own full bath and shower with a pool and hot tub in the back yard! Fly in on Friday evening where Craig and Kelly will pick you up from the airport and take you to their house. The trip includes two training sessions on Saturday, a night out on the town Saturday night, one training session Sunday morning and over 4 hours of nutritional and training discussions. Craig will also teach posing in their own posing room and Kelly will teach the proper way to stand on stage. Kelly will also take her clients to the Fitness Routine center where she can help master your moves for that winning routine you've always dreamed of. We will personally return you to the airport on Sunday morning with everything you need to know about the bodybuilding and fitness lifestyle. The cost for couples for the weekend is $1600.00. For single people the cost is $750.00. Please e-mail Craig Titus at Crgtitus@aol.com for further details and available dates. Make your plans now because they are getting booked up fast.
quelle:http://www.craigtitus.com/
These two were caught in Canton, Massachusettes today!! :o
You already knew where they were.
Don't let the pros fool you. Everyone is acting dumb aroun d here.
Anyone take any law enforcement classes ?
Jeebus, what a way to get caught. This proves that Craig and Kelly are indeed morons.
They made mistake after mistake... It wouldnt surprise me if they were stupid enough to tell some of thier "friends" where they were going and they got snitched on.
Good thing they are caught though. I hope justice will come, and the truth will be revealed.
I think the whole affair is tragic.Well said Shawn.
Could we all see this coming.........? Not in a million years.
Accidents happen all the time, Murder by someone we all know doesn't.
Facts:
Strangulation
Bound and Taped
Abandoned in the Desert
Call in a 3rd Party to help clean up the mess
Burned vehicle
Give police Statement
Flee the state as Fugitives
Call a friend to help liquidate assests to leave the country
CAPTURED by Police!
It's all sad.
It reeks fo guilt and shame.
I am not proud of their nightmarish ordeal they are dealing with, I'm more sad that I knew people who could do something like this.
My thoughts are with the family of Melissa as well, may she rest in peace.
Craig & Kelly.......God help them.
Peace,
S. Ray
you are not a snitch when the FBI asks questions. it is a violation of law(crime) to lie to the FBI.Well, ok. Maybe they got tipped before they started asking questions? Not everything is in yet. I was just speculating.
hope this helps.
in the police car he literally looked 195-200.
What are the chances for death penalty? I hope he won't get it. But a life in prison is perhaps not very much better... Hope he will be ok.
you are not a snitch when the FBI asks questions. it is a violation of law(crime) to lie to the FBI.
hope this helps.
The latest Video News on the Capture of two Titus / Ryan:
Click on it here to view!
http://cbs4boston.com/video/?id=15408@wbz.dayport.com
Peace,
S. Ray
Oh yeah.....thanks for the latest up-date
::)
Been there, nice work with the web site. ;D
Welcome back!
Merry Christmas!
Shawn
What Happened. Did Titus do something wronga again
Kelly Ryan getting arrested in a Nail Salon by SWAT!
http://cbs4boston.com/video/?id=15408@wbz.dayport.com
Kelly Ryan getting arrested in a Nail Salon by SWAT!
http://cbs4boston.com/video/?id=15408@wbz.dayport.com
Meaning you get Gas, Oil and the windows washed too? :o
Hhhhhhmmmmmmmm...... :-\
Greece does indeed have an extradition treaty/agreement with the USA.........
That is correct, there is an extradition agreement between Greece and the USA.
Big Ronnie Abston MBA, LLB
Double XL=Hurricane Beef! Bu tboth are as gay as the day is long.....
Double XL=Hurricane Beef! Bu tboth are as gay as the day is long.....
The day may well be long for " internet legal experts " like yourself, Ron. No family, plays on GetBig with kids ( I wonder why ) no woman, no friends.
Now, for some of us it goes by quickly. You know full life, financial success, family . . . Just traded in my Range Rover for the 06 model. What do you drive, Ron?
The day may well be long for " internet legal experts " like yourself, Ron. No family, plays on GetBig with kids ( I wonder why ) no woman, no friends.
Now, for some of us it goes by quickly. You know full life, financial success, family . . . Just traded in my Range Rover for the 06 model. What do you drive, Ron?
For the record. I drive a scooter ;D
Just traded in my Range Rover for the 06 model. What do you drive, Ron?
Anyone who brags about their car to strangers who didn't ask, has a small penis.
It's well documented.
gee can i brag about my 23 year old mercedes W123 ?
I drive an '89 Honda Accord LXi coupe. So... you figure out the rest. :D
:DYa, that's their before.
Ya, that's their before.
here's their after ...
After what? They are still innocent until proven guilty right?
Considering that they just had driven about 2500 miles I think they look ok.
Greece may not be there best choice.
http://www.internationalextradition.com/greece_bi.htm
The United States of America and Greece, desiring to promote the cause of justice, have resolved to conclude a treaty for the extradition of fugitives from justice between the two countries and have appointed for that purpose the following Plenipotentiaries:
The President of the United States of America: Mr. Robert Peet Skinner, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States of America at Athens; and
The President of the Hellenic Republic: Mr. Andreas Michalakopoulos, Vice President of the Government, Minister for Foreign Affairs;
Who, after having [*2] communicated to each other their respective full powers, found to be in good and due form, having agreed upon and concluded the following articles:
ARTICLE I
It is agreed that the Government of the United States and the Government of Greece shall, upon requisition duly made as herein provided, deliver up to justice any person, who may be charged with, or may have been convicted of, any of the crimes or offenses specified in Article II of the Present Treaty committed within the jurisdiction of one of the High Contracting Parties, and who shall seek an asylum or shall be found within the territories of the other; provided that such surrender shall take place only upon such evidence of criminality, as according to the laws of the place where the fugitive or person so charged shall be found, would justify his apprehension and commitment for trial if the crime or offense had been there committed. n2
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n2 For an interpretation of the final clause of art. I, see protocol of Sept. 2, 1937 (EAS 114), post, p. 366.
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ARTICLE [*3] II
Persons shall be delivered up according to the provisions of the present Treaty, who shall have been charged with or convicted of any of the following crimes or offenses:
1. Murder (including crimes designated by the terms parricide, poisoning, infanticide, manslaughter when voluntary).
2. Malicious wounding or inflicting grievous bodily harm with premeditation.
3. Rape, abortion, carnal knowledge of children under the age of fifteen years.
4. Abduction or detention of women or girls for immoral purposes.
5. Bigamy.
6. Arson.
7. Wilful and unlawful destruction or obstruction of railroads, which endangers human life.
Ya, that's their before.
here's their after ...
Titus won't be serving any real time. Think about it. The kerosene was bought with kelly's card, body was disposed in Kelly's car, and evidence will show Kelly strangled her. 8)
After what? They are still innocent until proven guilty right?Will you stop riding my ass William. >:(
Considering that they just had driven about 2500 miles I think they look ok.
240, how about changing the name of the site to www.dontfreecraigtitus.c om or for the optimists: www.maybefreecraigtitus. com..................... ...or www.ifyoudidittitusandry anburninhell.com kinda long but oh well.
btw, thanks for the site.....just not feeling the name :-\
She certainly looks more afraid and like a nervous wreck than Craig does...
240, how about changing the name of the site to www.dontfreecraigtitus.c om or for the optimists: www.maybefreecraigtitus. com..................... ...
btw, thanks for the site.....just not feeling the name :-\
When you read the site, you'll notice i take a totally neutral view on things- all I do is share information and I let people decide what to believe.
I kNEW someone would buy freecraigtitus.com because I knew many people would want to free him, no matter if he did it or not. Remember the popularity of freetookie.com?
This way, when peeple that feel he should be feed no matter what, visit the site, they will be able to learn ALL sides of the issue.
Hits are in the thousands per day now. And they were only booked yesterday :)
240, how about changing the name of the site to www.dontfreecraigtitus.c om or for the optimists: www.maybefreecraigtitus. com..................... ...www.titusandryan.com (http://www.titusandryan.com) IS A MUCH BETTER SITE.
btw, thanks for the site.....just not feeling the name :-\
www.titusandryan.com (http://www.titusandryan.com) IS A MUCH BETTER SITE.
Titus won't be serving any real time. Think about it. The kerosene was bought with kelly's card, body was disposed in Kelly's car, and evidence will show Kelly strangled her. 8)bullshit. even if Kelly killed the poor girl, Craig was part of the cover up. he's going away for a very long time regardless.
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Let's examine Craigger's last post. It look obvious to me he wasn't in a bad mood when he posted this shortly before the murder. Instead of jumping all over Titus I think we need to take a closer look at Kelly. We know women can be very emotional and jealous. Titus loves Kelly and would do anything to help her, but we have zero evidence that he committed the murders. We don't even know if he was aware the murder was happening. If he was, I'm sure he would have taken steps to stop it. All the information we have now points to Kelly Ryan as the murderer. It's unfair to assume Titus did this because he has a reputation as a tough guy. I think Titus was just standing by his woman once he found out what happened.\\
Kerosene bought with Kelly's credit cards.
Body found in Kelly's Jaguar.
Melissa was stealing Kelly's identity.
Melissa had an affair with Titus, causing Kelly to fly into a rage...
Titus seemed calm and in a good mood based on his last post shortly before the murder.
Kelly seems crazy based on the fact she stopped for a pedicure.
This is a strong case against Kelly. At most, Titus was just an accessory to her escape.
man you're 100% right. this is a no brainer that the female did the job.
man you're 100% right. this is a no brainer that the female did the job.
And as Disgusted pointed out in his thread, Craig had Melissa set up with a motel and bought her a plane ticket. Why would he buy a plane ticket for a corpse. Kelly seems the likely candidate because she had the motivation to commit the murder. The physical evidence points to her now too. The paper trail points to her. She has demonstrated her mentally unstable state.
a person from Mass with very close ties said that Kelly did it, Craig did the burning.
www.freecraigtitus.com
Unless this person testifies against Craig, it will be hard to prove he committed the arson. Weren't the chemicals purchased with Kelly's personal credit card? Or was it the company card?
one news source said the walmart parking lot camera showed craig help kelly load the car with the accelerants- and they put it in the backseat, not the trunk.
Let's examine Craigger's last post. It look obvious to me he wasn't in a bad mood when he posted this shortly before the murder. Instead of jumping all over Titus I think we need to take a closer look at Kelly. We know women can be very emotional and jealous. Titus loves Kelly and would do anything to help her, but we have zero evidence that he committed the murders. We don't even know if he was aware the murder was happening. If he was, I'm sure he would have taken steps to stop it. All the information we have now points to Kelly Ryan as the murderer. It's unfair to assume Titus did this because he has a reputation as a tough guy. I think Titus was just standing by his woman once he found out what happened.
Kerosene bought with Kelly's credit cards.
Body found in Kelly's Jaguar.
Melissa was stealing Kelly's identity.
Melissa had an affair with Titus, causing Kelly to fly into a rage...
Titus seemed calm and in a good mood based on his last post shortly before the murder.
Kelly seems crazy based on the fact she stopped for a pedicure.
This is a strong case against Kelly. At most, Titus was just an accessory to her escape.
Xmas day sitting in jail i wonder if either one of them imagines the rampant speculation on getbig and elsewhere... :o
Fun day at Kell's parents considering they were against the marriage.. :D
Fun day for Craig & Kelly too. If the drug rumors are true, Craig w/ Nubain& coke & Kelly w/ GHB, 2 days after the arrest, They should be detoxing pretty hard as we speak. I can't comment on the Nubain/coke withdrawl's, but I've seen GHB withdrawl's first-hand & they are not pleasant.
Let's examine Craigger's last post. It look obvious to me he wasn't in a bad mood when he posted this shortly before the murder. Instead of jumping all over Titus I think we need to take a closer look at Kelly. We know women can be very emotional and jealous. Titus loves Kelly and would do anything to help her, but we have zero evidence that he committed the murders. We don't even know if he was aware the murder was happening. If he was, I'm sure he would have taken steps to stop it. All the information we have now points to Kelly Ryan as the murderer. It's unfair to assume Titus did this because he has a reputation as a tough guy. I think Titus was just standing by his woman once he found out what happened.
Kerosene bought with Kelly's credit cards.
Body found in Kelly's Jaguar.
Melissa was stealing Kelly's identity.
Melissa had an affair with Titus, causing Kelly to fly into a rage...
Titus seemed calm and in a good mood based on his last post shortly before the murder.
Kelly seems crazy based on the fact she stopped for a pedicure.
This is a strong case against Kelly. At most, Titus was just an accessory to her escape.
What a transformation. Our little sherlocks here have pronounced Craig innocent and Kelly the she-beast that did the deed. The reason? Who would make reservations for a person who would be murdered?
Try a guy that was screwing her, and knew that she would want to confirm by phone that he INDEED made reservations for her to go back to New Jersey, and what the Hell, have a screw session before at a cheap hotel.
All the better to help the alibi..."what, I made those reservations myself..how could she not be on the plane?"
Sounds more like this you super sleuths...Kelly had him by the short hairs, and they both did it, and wanted to live happily ever after.
After a nailjob and a Mug'o root beer of course.
WE, dont need evidence. WE are not the police. the police and the DA are the only ones with ALL THE EVIDENCE AND FACTS surrounding this. they chose to charge craig. there is a reason for that. you can play super sleuth all you want but the fact remains that married couples frequently use each others cards, they freiquently borrow each others cars. hmmm, maybe, just maybe, the girl threatened to go after craig for money. or maybe she threatened to tell kelly about the affair still going on. or maybe she demanded money from craig to cover up the affair? could be lots of things. if kelly was so mad about the affiar, then it isnt a stretch to think that craig would stop at nothing to avoid her wrath of finding out he banged some other chick.
dont read a few news reports and assume you have all the facts and that the police and govt is out to persecute some innocent bodybuilder just beacuse he has occasionally posted here. the guy is a scumbag that cheated on his wife with their assistant and who has committed numerous crimes and spent time in prison. he has a propensity towards violence which is well documented. let the cops do the real work. speculate if anything, on how much jail time he will get.
remember one thing- innocent people dont run
Ya, that's their before.
here's their after ...
Uh, no one's gonna look good in those circumstances, traveling for days, lack of sleep, drugs, their context, bad lighting.
Besides, she didn't get the complete pedicure..
After what? They are still innocent until proven guilty right?
Considering that they just had driven about 2500 miles I think they look ok.
Uh, no one's gonna look good in those circumstances, traveling for days, lack of sleep, drugs, their context, bad lighting.
Besides, she didn't get the complete pedicure..
i've seen her feet
no pedicure could make her feet look good :)
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Not necessarily. If I found myself in a situation where I looked guilty and didn't think I could prove I wasn't, I might run rather than face a trial I probably wouldn't win.
That said, Craiggers is guilty as sin. ;D
Is "Craiggers" Titus' nickname or is that your little cozy private nickname for him?
Is "Craiggers" Titus' nickname or is that your little cozy private nickname for him?
were you born yesterday?
do your research.
we have been calling him that for six years dumbass lol
Not necessarily. If I found myself in a situation where I looked guilty and didn't think I could prove I wasn't, I might run rather than face a trial I probably wouldn't win.
240, how about changing the name of the site to www.dontfreecraigtitus.c om or for the optimists: www.maybefreecraigtitus. com..................... ...And stop asking for donations, unless you plan on sending them to the family of the victim.
btw, thanks for the site.....just not feeling the name :-\
What does he call you?
friend
Ahh, how touching.
sad story but in this day and age you would think after you kill someone the last thing you would do is buy supplies and leave her in your car. for fucks sake you live with miles of desert around you take a shovel from the garage and dig a fucking hole. just stupid.
sad story but in this day and age you would think after you kill someone the last thing you would do is buy supplies and leave her in your car. for fucks sake you live with miles of desert around you take a shovel from the garage and dig a fucking hole. just stupid.
Are pedicures a sport ;D?
j/k
who is reporting from the redition hearing. that's what these things are called in massachusetts legal code
Sport or not, I keep seeing people refer to bodybuilding as an "industry", I bet the pedicure "industry" dwarfs the bodybuilding "industry."
Thats because bodybuilding is an "industry" and not a "sport" and yes.....the pedicure "industry" is bigger than bodybuilding!!
I don't thnk Craig was planning on killing her. I think it just happened. Something happened where he lost it and it went to far and he killed her. Nothing strange about that. He has a temper, he does drugs I don't see a problem with thinking it happened spontaneously.There's something not so spontaneous about gagging someone and putting duck tape on their mouths, only. Plus how many of us just so "happen" to carry stuff to gag someone or carry ducktape on them? Was it part of that "just in case you want to kill someone" kit? It actually the more I think about ... sounds pre-meditated.
that's a lot of maybes
There's something not so spontaneous about gagging someone and putting duck tape on their mouths, only. Plus how many of us just so "happen" to carry stuff to gag someone or carry ducktape on them? Was it part of that "just in case you want to kill someone" kit? It actually the more I think about ... sounds pre-meditated.
There's something not so spontaneous about gagging someone and putting duck tape on their mouths, only. Plus how many of us just so "happen" to carry stuff to gag someone or carry ducktape on them? Was it part of that "just in case you want to kill someone" kit? It actually the more I think about ... sounds pre-meditated.
Maybe the duct tape was to make it look like she had been killed by a drug dealer, after stealing Kellys car and credit card...identity fraud ?
bodybuilding itself is nothing more than a minuscule sideshow.
Bodybuilding makes nothing, hence, not an industry by any sense of the imagination.
That would make Kelly Ryan a crossove athlete!
Sorry Cheri....I am going with Only on this.I think Kelly went to the hotel room with the intention of kicking Melissa's ass because Craig stayed that night. I think Melissa may have got a little cocky with her or said something Kelly didn't like, Kelly went to her car got some tape and what ever she was bound in. Went back it, beat the hell out of Melissa, bound her, tried to scare her into god only knows, gagged her, got more pissed because Melissa couldn't respond as she was gagged and then beat her some more and choked her to death. All on a drug induced rage. Just my thoughts on it.
If it was anything "thought out"....they wouldn't have been so sloppy.
Killers that kill premeditated have a plan for escape....their plans were lousy.
Now...killers like the guy that killed your uncle....did not care to be caught & did not care if he was caught.
Actually....he had put a little more into planning the killings of his victims more than Craig & Kelly did.
Thats what I would think
I think Kelly went to the hotel room with the intention of kicking Melissa's ass because Craig stayed that night. I think Melissa may have got a little cocky with her or said something Kelly didn't like, Kelly went to her car got some tape and what ever she was bound in. Went back it, beat the hell out of Melissa, bound her, tried to scare her into god only knows, gagged her, got more pissed because Melissa couldn't respond as she was gagged and then beat her some more and choked her to death. All on a drug induced rage. Just my thoughts on it.
And got her out of the hotel how?She called Craig "Oops I made a boo boo"
She called Craig "Oops I made a boo boo"
And Craig got her out of the hotel how?Umm picked her up ::) and carried her, put her in Kelly's trunk. She took his car, he took hers. She got the gas, he called his friend, met back up with Titus, gave him the fuel and he went off to meet the friend, she went home, took a tranquilizer and waited for Titus to return.
Umm picked her up ::) and carried her, put her in Kelly's trunk. She took his car, he took hers. She got the gas, he called his friend, met back up with Titus, gave him the fuel and he went off to meet the friend, she went home, took a tranquilizer and waited for Titus to return.
Ahh, I see. And no one would have seen that being in Las Vegas and all. Too busy gambling. No telling how many people carried bodies out of hotels in Vegas when I have been there and I just didn't notice.Are you serious?? Have you ever been to Vegas? No one ever sees anything. And just outside the strip are areas most don't want to venture.
Are you serious?? Have you ever been to Vegas? No one ever sees anything. And just outside the strip are areas most don't want to venture.
That's right, What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. I forgot. The commercials right?Umm ya ::) ok
Are you serious? Good thing you're not on the case, these two would skate!
Umm ya ::) ok
Maybe Kelly killed her in KFC. She was in KFC right? You know chatting over a few extra crispy drumsticks, Kelly snaps, chokes her out. Calls Craig. This Gross fellow passes her body through drive up. No one sees a thing cause it's Vegas ya know.Maybe you did it. ;)
Yaeh, I think that's it.
Maybe you did it. ;)
I think Kelly went to the hotel room with the intention of kicking Melissa's ass because Craig stayed that night. I think Melissa may have got a little cocky with her or said something Kelly didn't like, Kelly went to her car got some tape and what ever she was bound in. Went back it, beat the hell out of Melissa, bound her, tried to scare her into god only knows, gagged her, got more pissed because Melissa couldn't respond as she was gagged and then beat her some more and choked her to death. All on a drug induced rage. Just my thoughts on it.
Maybe Kelly killed her in KFC.
I agree with you on all counts!!
I highly doubt she was killed in the room. Has that been established. If so how did they get the body to the Jag. Even in Vegas carrying a dead body and throwing it in a trunk seems a little out of place. Was she dead prior to the gag and other restraints. If so why did they have to tie her up. If, he duct taped her mouth, was her nose also covered. This could have caused the suffication. The burning of the Jag is completely idiotic. The desert around Vegas is littered with dead bodies. No matter what the way they are acting it looks to me like they did it together. I just don't see a tight, bonding and loving relationship between the two. Allowing your partner to have sex with others and sharing is just something that exhibits non commitable relationship. So to be able to say one or the other did it and the other one is protecting them is something I can't believe. They did it together and thus are protecting themselves and each other.
Ya, the perfect crime-she gave her a drumstick with a lot of bones, she choked to death. That's it!.............. :o
but you just called it an industry above ::)
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She knew what she was getting into when they met
She knew what she was getting into when they met, I happend to be there in Detroit at the Pro Figure show when Craig said he was going to marry that chick.
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I can tell you from personal experience that dealing with the federal gov't surrounding criminal activity is not a joke. I had to testify in front of a federal grand jury over a year ago now -- nothing related to BB or anything -- and it was no fun at all. When they have the goods on someone and need your "help" you are not in a position not to -- trust me.
It was one of the hardests situations I have ever dealt with -- and glad that it is over.
Kind of gives you a whole new outlook on the Feds, eh William? :-\
And this is coming from a veteran......
If they want you, they'll get you.............innocent or not.
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Big D, the TR6 was my favorite car as a kid. My first car was a 59' MGA. My mom went into Larry Reed Imports in LA back in 75' or so. She went in to buy somecar (can't remember) but ended up going to a warehouse in Santa Monica and buying the last year they made the TR6 he had in storage (he had a few). SHe paid $10,000 even for it. That was back in 1975 or so. It had less than 100 miles when thye bought. My dad decided to keep it as an investment and trailered it up to our cabin in Running Springs. She ended up buy a new 280Z. In short 11 years or so later when my mom died, she ended up being n the hospital for almost a year. Even after insurance had paid my dad had to pay out allot of money. He ended up sellng the TR6. It had less than 1000 original miles on it. Was in absolutely mint conidtion and sold it to a collector for over $20,000. I couldn't believe it. I loved that car.
Oh, did Titus kill someone?
Maybe Kelly killed her in KFC. She was in KFC right? You know chatting over a few extra crispy drumsticks, Kelly snaps, chokes her out. Calls Craig. This Gross fellow passes her body through drive up. No one sees a thing cause it's Vegas ya know.
Yaeh, I think that's it.
I highly doubt she was killed in the room. Has that been established. If so how did they get the body to the Jag. Even in Vegas carrying a dead body and throwing it in a trunk seems a little out of place. Was she dead prior to the gag and other restraints. If so why did they have to tie her up. If, he duct taped her mouth, was her nose also covered. This could have caused the suffication. The burning of the Jag is completely idiotic. The desert around Vegas is littered with dead bodies. No matter what the way they are acting it looks to me like they did it together. I just don't see a tight, bonding and loving relationship between the two. Allowing your partner to have sex with others and sharing is just something that exhibits non commitable relationship. So to be able to say one or the other did it and the other one is protecting them is something I can't believe. They did it together and thus are protecting themselves and each other.
you sound like you were in love with him, "LLES", hahaha, why don't you write him some love letters,,,,,wait a minute, maybe not, you don't want Kelly chasing you down with lighter fluid.
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Quit looking at their relationship the way you view relationships. They were at one time one of the highest(if not the highest ) profile couples in the industry. They were stars & stars attract groupies, mix in the drugs & anything can happen. I worked in the adult nightclub industry for many years. I had a friend who was a national level BB'er & had been featured in a few BB'ing mags & became a local celeb. At one time I really looked up to him. He was a really great guy & everyone liked him. He worked for me for awhile, started dating a college girl who appeared to have her sh*t together. 3-4 months later ,she quit school, started dancing, they started partying pretty hard, next thing they were doing the exact same thing Titus (?) was doing.Not only did he pretty much alienate himself from all his friends, He flushed his career down the drain too. Point is anyone can get sucked in. It starts slowly & next thing you know your doing things you never imagined. When the drugs take over, you start sliding down you either f*ck up real bad & do something or get involved in something stupid & go to jail, die ,or eventually try & get straight. Unfortunately, we know what happened in this situation. I am not excusing them or making excuses for them but I can see how this happened. It could happen to anyone, including you , me and anyone else.
How did they get the body out of the Hotel? Yes it seemed to be the missing link....
I saw it somewhere but it was at the La Quinta
They were at one time one of the highest(if not the highest ) profile couples in the industry.
Ah....I got married 3 years ago...... 8)
Here we go with this industry talk again. What indusrtry? Bodybuilding is not an industry.
She prolly called Craig & told him what happened. At that point Craig put together a half-assed plan about trying to frame Melissa for Identity theft & stealing of the car. He went to the garage, picked up some items, and made a phone call to a friend to meet him. He then went to the Hotel & told Kelly to run to the store & meet him with some barbecue fluid. He Polly heard from a friend that barbecue fluid will generate a higher BTU of fire for incineration. He then staged an abduction type scenario where he bounded & taped her up. From there....he figured a theft of his car could back his story about Melissa being troubled & unpredictable and messing with some bad people.
I thought it was said he never filed a report or presse charges that the car was stolen or she took money.They didn't.
It is often referred to as such, quit being such a nit-picking pain in the arse.
Don't you think your getting worked up a little too much over a word.
Industry , Industry, Industry!!!! Now Nort will be agitated all day.
These were happier times for both of them.
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I hate that unwritten rule of acting that says big bodybuilders that can act can't get leading men parts or anything except silent bodyguards and bouncers. As long as the guy has acting ability huge size and condition shouldn't detract from the part especially if he's playing a hit man for the mafia, murderer, criminal, loan shark, etc. Watch the movie "Be Cool" to see what I mean. If John Travolta in "Get Shorty" had a bodybuilders physique it would add to the part by making him look more intimidating since he's playing a loan shark who has to often fight. Why is it OK for a lead actor to be fat or scrawny?
If you like chicks with *****-up noses.i think the nose is sexy as well as the eyes, hair, smile, body, everything, awesome.
i think the nose is sexy as well as the eyes, hair, smile, body, everything, awesome.
damn Kelly looked awesome in those pics.well, the body...I can agree. But the face...with all this surgery she has *completely changed* her appearance. And not for the better, I would say
damn Kelly looked awesome in those pics. i think the nose is sexy as well as the eyes, hair, smile, body, everything, awesome.
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Well if that's the case, just get yourself thrown into a women's prison in Nevada, and you may have a shot at her. ::)that shouldnt be too hard for him...but...im sure hed rather be with the men :o
i think the nose is sexy as well as the eyes, hair, smile, body, everything, awesome.David "Squadfather" Mirza did a lot of masturbating to Kelly Ryan's pics back in the day. :P
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