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« on: November 10, 2022, 02:11:20 PM »
#florida counted over 7 million votes in a day meanwhile #ArizonaElection is in day 2 with fake “glitches” and excuses of running out of “ink” can’t even count 2 million votes. Also meanwhile #KatieHobbs who ran from a debate is overseeing her own election 🙄

Btw, Trump was proven right

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Re: Arizona
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2022, 04:51:24 PM »
#florida counted over 7 million votes in a day meanwhile #ArizonaElection is in day 2 with fake “glitches” and excuses of running out of “ink” can’t even count 2 million votes. Also meanwhile #KatieHobbs who ran from a debate is overseeing her own election 🙄

Btw, Trump was proven right

IMO, when Katie Hobbs decided to run for Governor, she should have resigned as Secretary of State for Arizona. States and territories have constitutional or statutory provisions governing the propriety of dual office-holding. These provisions vary substantially in terms of what may be allowed or prohibited. Apparently, Arizona does not have a provision disallowing her to run for Governor while holding office as the Secretary of State. Seems like a conflict of interest to me.

Interestingly, Arizona, Oregon and Wyoming as well as the U.S. territory of Puerto Rico, the secretary of state is first in the line of succession in the event of a gubernatorial vacancy. And it gets even more convoluted, in 35 states, the Secretary of State is elected, usually for a four-year term. In others, the secretary of state is appointed by the Governor with confirmation with the state's respective Senate. Katie Hobbs term of office ends in January 2023.

Adrian Fontes and Mark Finchem both ran  for Arizona Secretary of State in this election. Adrian Fontes (D) has 52% of the vote and Mark Finchem (R) has 47.5%. I don't think that race has been called yet.
 

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Re: Arizona
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2022, 03:07:39 AM »
Yeah, a few states hold everything up and never change. Why does Georgia still require a runoff if no one gets over 50% of the vote? Anytime you have 3 candidates running almost guarantees a runoff will be required.

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Re: Arizona
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2022, 08:56:56 AM »
Funny how “glitch” and machine malfunctions only seem to happen in battleground states

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Re: Arizona
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2022, 12:03:09 PM »
Funny how “glitch” and machine malfunctions only seem to happen in battleground states
Maybe because Oregon is not a battleground state, we are a little more proactive when it comes to election 'glitches'.

Sherry Hall has had more than her share of mistakes. Last Tuesday the voters finally got rid of her.
https://www.koin.com/news/elections/clackamas-county-clerk-questioned-after-botched-ballots/

After 20 years with Sherry Hall, Clackamas County will have a new county clerk overseeing future elections. Initial results show Catherine McMullen with almost twice as many votes as the incumbent.

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Re: Arizona
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2022, 01:04:11 PM »
#KatieHobbs who ran from a debate is overseeing her own election 🙄

Btw, Trump was proven right

Oh you mean like Brian Kemp was Secretary of State at the same time as he was running for governor in 2018?  Like that?  Was it ok then, or just wrong now?

Naw,  Trumpy wrong.  Never more evident than this past Tuesday.

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Re: Arizona
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2022, 10:39:10 AM »
lol…


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Re: Arizona
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2022, 11:58:41 AM »
Welcome to the USSA! ;D

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Re: Arizona
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2022, 05:10:08 PM »
lol…

Kimberly Yee (R) is an incumbent. Katie Hobbs was Secretary of State for the past 4 years. In Arizona Secretary of State is next-in-line for Governor.

Keri Lake was a TV news anchor prior to running for Governor. She is a radical election denier. She has no political experience. Not all Republicans are election deniers or support Trump. These are mainly folks who are staunch 'Trumpkins'. Like it or not people like Keri Lake are in the minority among Republicans. Republicans and Democrats alike are sick of Trump and his claims of election fraud.   

In the general election there is no requirement to vote along party lines. No doubt, many Republicans voted for Katie Hobbs.

"Among 12 prominent endorsements, which started with primary challenges to incumbent Republicans, four won election in Tuesday's voting, while two lost. Three remained uncalled and three lost their primaries." A Trump endorsement may well have been the 'kiss of death' in the mid-term elections.

Several Trump-backed candidates lost, including MAGA gubernatorial candidates Doug Mastriano in Pennsylvania and Dan Cox in Maryland, House candidates J.R. Majewski in Ohio, Karoline Leavitt in New Hampshire and Yesli Vega in Virginia, and Don Bolduc, who he endorsed in the New Hampshire Senate race.

Trump's greatest and most expensive endorsement letdown Wednesday evening came when Democrat John Fetterman defeated Trump-backed Mehmet Oz.
 

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Re: Arizona
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2022, 07:06:34 PM »
As of now about 2% remains to be counted - around 50,000 votes.  Lake would need about 36,000 of them to win.

Possible but seems unlikely.

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Re: Arizona
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2022, 01:10:23 AM »
As of now about 2% remains to be counted - around 50,000 votes.  Lake would need about 36,000 of them to win.

Possible but seems unlikely.
They called it. It only took a week. ::)

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Re: Arizona
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2022, 06:24:04 AM »
Lake with the greatest self own in history.

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Re: Arizona
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2022, 06:38:46 AM »
As of now about 2% remains to be counted - around 50,000 votes.  Lake would need about 36,000 of them to win.

Possible but seems unlikely.

The ballot harvesting is the DEMS tool, pre-printed ballots are swapped out for what they pick up, and the ballots to be picked-up/harvested is known ahead of time.
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Re: Arizona
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2022, 07:08:37 AM »
Of course, there was cheating, right? 


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Re: Arizona
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2022, 07:10:54 AM »
Of course, there was cheating, right?

I can't say for sure on any of this, but they could do a much better job with the optics on this shit, if they actually cared about voter confidence in our elections.

Taking this much time to count votes, running out of ink, etc is not going to instill credibility.
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Re: Arizona
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2022, 09:03:51 AM »
Of course, there was cheating, right?

Of course.  Just like last time.  And just like last time, no evidence of such either.

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Re: Arizona
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2022, 03:11:36 PM »
The ballot harvesting is the DEMS tool, pre-printed ballots are swapped out for what they pick up, and the ballots to be picked-up/harvested is known ahead of time.

Perhaps you could explain for me how the process of ballot harvesting works that precipitates voter fraud.

I realize I am just one person, but in all these many ears of voting, neither I nor any of my family members ever been approached by someone asking to pick up our ballots. Since mail in ballots require a signature which is checked for accuracy how does one swap ballots out for preprinted ones - assuming you mean with the boxes already filled in. Not sure how this it is handled in other states but in Oregon ballots must be marked with a blue or black ink pen. One with the box marks preprinted on it would be rejected.

Ballot harvesting as in the voter's designee collecting ballots and dropping them off at polling stations is allowed in 26 states. In 10 states the person dropping them off must be a family member.

Twenty-seven states conduct signature verification on returned absentee/mail ballots.

Some states require mail-in ballots be notorized or that a copy of the voter's acceptable ID, such as a copy of their driver's license. Nine states require the signature of a witness in addition to the voter’s signature. Three states require the absentee/mail ballot envelope to be notarized. North Carolina allows only a close relative or verified legal guardian to return the ballot, and a witness must sign the absentee ballot envelope.

Arkansas requires a copy of the voter’s ID be returned with the absentee/mail-in ballot. And Georgia requires the voter’s driver’s license number or state identification card number, which is compared with the voter’s registration record. Note: Minnesota and Ohio also require this information, though Minnesota also requires a witness signature, and Ohio conducts signature verification.

One known case of fraud in ballot harvesting was in North Carolina's 9th Congressional District in 2018. There, Republican operative McCrae Dowless was indicted for mishandling absentee ballots to sway the election for a pastor named Mark Harris. As a result, Harris withdrew from the election.

Another recent case was in the Arizona primary where a woman was sentenced to 30 days in jail for collecting four absentee ballots from acquaintances in San Luis, Arizona and leaving them at a drop off bin. In this state it is only legal for someone to drop off ballots for a family member or household member.

Voter fraud is rare. Between 2000 to 2012 only 491 out of 146 million registered voters was election fraud found. 

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Re: Arizona
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2022, 03:58:24 PM »
I can't say for sure on any of this, but they could do a much better job with the optics on this shit, if they actually cared about voter confidence in our elections.

Taking this much time to count votes, running out of ink, etc is not going to instill credibility.

The problem is when something like this happens where everything is under a microscope it’s hard not to have things like this pop up especially when we are relying on government employees. 

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Re: Arizona
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2022, 06:42:56 PM »
The problem is when something like this happens where everything is under a microscope it’s hard not to have things like this pop up especially when we are relying on government employees.
With cameras mysteriously going out at random times and one of the candidates wandering around the ballot counting area, it leaves a lot to the imagination, especially when this type of stuff seems to happen in hotly contested areas.
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Re: Arizona
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2022, 01:34:21 AM »
With cameras mysteriously going out at random times and one of the candidates wandering around the ballot counting area, it leaves a lot to the imagination, especially when this type of stuff seems to happen in hotly contested areas.
And always one party.

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Re: Arizona
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2022, 06:15:26 PM »
And always one party.
The people that support that party have no questions or qualms about accepting that as a normal situation. Very odd to me, you would think that the people that scream the most about equality would be up in arms to make sure that everything is fair and equal.
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Re: Arizona
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2022, 01:17:11 AM »
The people that support that party have no questions or qualms about accepting that as a normal situation. Very odd to me, you would think that the people that scream the most about equality would be up in arms to make sure that everything is fair and equal.
They see their opponents as evil and an existential threat to life on planet Earth itself. Anything they do to win is accepted.

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Re: Arizona
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2022, 04:01:59 AM »
The people that support that party have no questions or qualms about accepting that as a normal situation. Very odd to me, you would think that the people that scream the most about equality would be up in arms to make sure that everything is fair and equal.

If it were the other way around, they would be up in arms, crying/melting.
Is what it is... Most humans are weak of mind and have no morals...

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Re: Arizona
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2022, 02:33:02 PM »
And always one party.

That's true. Only republicans declare, the only results they will accept , is winning.  ::)

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Re: Arizona
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2022, 04:55:29 PM »
With cameras mysteriously going out at random times and one of the candidates wandering around the ballot counting area, it leaves a lot to the imagination, especially when this type of stuff seems to happen in hotly contested areas.

What makes you think election glitches only happen in hotly contested areas? They can happen anywhere. The difference is it doesn't become a huge issue elsewhere. The non-partisan Clackamas County Elections Clerk Sherry Hall was finally voted out after several screwups under her watch. "Sherry Hall, the Clackamas County clerk long criticized for inefficiency, is losing her bid to retain a position she has held for almost 20 years, despite running circus-worthy elections year after year." Think of it, she's been messing up the elections for two decades before she was finally given the boot by the voters. This happens to be the county I live in.

Politically the populous in this county is mixed. In Clackamas County, OR 54.0% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 42.9% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 3.2% voted Independent.

In Clackamas County, where the Republican and Democratic candidates/parties get donations from is interesting. A lot of Democrats give a little bit, and a few Republicans donate a lot.

"In the last 4 years (2018-2021), there were 39,548 contributions totaling $3,018,610 to the Democratic Party and liberal campaigns, averaging $76 per contribution.

In the last 4 years, there were 5,404 contributions totaling $1,784,413 to the Republican Party and conservative campaigns, averaging $330 per contribution."