The return of Fedor

[Earl1972]

What you, and other fedor nuthuggers fail to realize, is that there is a sea of fans out there, who completely disagree with you.  You guys are too blinded by your Fedor obsession to look at it objectively. 

I believe the argument can be made for Fedor being one of the all time best heavy weights.  Until recently he had not lost.  And, for 4 years he dominated the division.  But, (I'm sounding like a broke record now), his record is inflated, well over half of his wins are over no-name cans with less than 5 fights and/or more losses than wins and for the last 5 years he has refused to fight the elite heavy weight fighters, instead choosing to fight freaks like Hongman Choi or middle weights like Matt Linland.

Maybe Fedor is the best ever, but we have no way of knowing since he refuses to fight the best fighters...

who are these "sea of fans"?  tuf noobs?

i go with the fighters opinions, the majority say he is the best

and who has the better resume?  now i'm the broken record

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[Earl1972]

no

at what point is his legacy set?

if he beat brock and any other ufc heavyweight, than you would probably say he has to beat the "next big thing" whoever that may be

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[Geo]

at what point is his legacy set?

if he beat brock and any other ufc heavyweight, than you would probably say he has to beat the "next big thing" whoever that may be

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like every other fighter who's ever fought....

when his career is over !



legacy's don't start until the career's over

[suckmymuscle]

who are these "sea of fans"?  tuf noobs?

i go with the fighters opinions, the majority say he is the best

and who has the better resume?  now i'm the broken record

E

  This is true. These are all quotes from UFC champions about Fedor:


 "Fedor Emelianenko"

  - George Saint-Pierre, UFC welterweight champion, answering the queastion of who he believes is the best MMA fighter ever.


"Emelianenko Fedor"

 - Mauricio "Shogun" Ruas, UFC light-heavyweight champion and former PRIDE competitor, answering the question of who he thinks is the greatest pound-for-pound fighter in the World.


"The UFC doesen't have a monopoly on talent. There are some fantastic fighters outside the UFC. Obviously, Fedor comes to mind as an example of that."

 - Frank Mir, UFC heavyweight contender and former UFC heavyweight champion, talking about the UFC being or not the best organization.

  "Few people in the United States know how good Fedor is. He is very well rounded. He is the only fighter I can think of who is a master on all aspects of the game."

  Randy Couture, MMA legend and former UFC heavyweight champion of the World.

  "The best I ever fought against."

  - Mirko Crocop, UFC heavyweight competitor and former PRIDE open Grand Prix champion and K-1 competitor.

  "I would need another 6 months to a year of training to stand a chance against him. Right now, I would stand no more than a puncher's chance against him. He is the elite."

  - Shane Carwin, UFC heavyweight contender.

  "The toughest fights I had in my career were my two fights against Fedor. He is a complete fighter. So deadly and so masterly on all aspects of the game. Going into the second fight with him, it was the only time in my fighting career I was intimidated by a fighter..."

  - Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira, former PRIDE heavyweight and UFC heavyweight champion, on which were the greatest fights in his  career.

[Earl1972]

hahaha shane carwin and frank mir just owned mindspin

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[suckmymuscle]

hahaha shane carwin and frank mir just owned mindspin

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  It's not only Carwin and Mir. Read the whole quotes. GSP, Shogun, Couture and Nogueira also consider Fedor the greatest ever.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Earl1972]

  It's not only Carwin and Mir. Read the whole quotes. GSP, Shogun, Couture and Nogueira also consider Fedor the greatest ever.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

i know but mindspin thinks carwin and mir are "god's gift" to heavyweight fighting

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[MindSpin]

Oh brother

Please site the source of those quotes. A link would be good. I've actually spoken to about half of those guys. Most think he is one of the best, but not the best today.

[Earl1972]

Oh brother

Please site the source of those quotes. A link would be good. I've actually spoken to about half of those guys. Most think he is one of the best, but not the best today.

name names and how do you know them?

anyways those quotes are more valid than claiming a fighter told you this or that

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[MindSpin]

name names and how do you know them?

anyways those quotes are more valid than claiming a fighter told you this or that

E

Not really.  A lot of fighters like to put out this "humble" persona and are really quite the opposite when not talking to a reporter.  I've spoken with and or hung/out with a whole bunch of fighters including, Rashad Evans, Dan Henderson, Josh Barnett, Frank Mir, Chuck Liddell, Randy Couture, Keith Jardine, Donald Cerrone, Nate Marquard, Shane Carwin, etc.  I've also been to Greg Jackson's gym in NM and spoken to him several times.  I've had the same debate I'm having with you schmucks on here, with a lot of those guys.  Some do think Fedor is the greatest ever.  Others don't.   

[Earl1972]

and who are they?

the fact that they are "humble" when talking about Mr. Emelianenko says a lot

E

[*ChuteBoxe*]

Oh brother
 I've actually spoken to about half of those guys.

And then you woke up from your TUF wet dream, thanks for deleting my posts btw.

[George Whorewell]

Not really.  A lot of fighters like to put out this "humble" persona and are really quite the opposite when not talking to a reporter.  I've spoken with and or hung/out with a whole bunch of fighters including, Rashad Evans, Dan Henderson, Josh Barnett, Frank Mir, Chuck Liddell, Randy Couture, Keith Jardine, Donald Cerrone, Nate Marquard, Shane Carwin, etc.  I've also been to Greg Jackson's gym in NM and spoken to him several times.  I've had the same debate I'm having with you schmucks on here, with a lot of those guys.  Some do think Fedor is the greatest ever.  Others don't.   

Get the fuck out of here.

[MindSpin]

And then you woke up from your TUF wet dream, thanks for deleting my posts btw.

What post are you talking about. I've deleted nothing.

[George Whorewell]

MS dropping more names than Only Me at a cocktail party in this thread.

[BIG_STI]

Oh brother

Please site the source of those quotes. A link would be good. I've actually spoken to about half of those guys. Most think he is one of the best, but not the best today.

lol of course you have 

[MindSpin]

[benchmstr]

brutal comeback

bench

[MindSpin]

brutal comeback

bench

Epic Fail

[chaos]

Is Fedor the best ever? Maybe at this point in time if he were to retire.......however he hasn't retired so you can't really say it yet. He may hang on and fuck it all  up. Like someone else said a legacy is born after you retire.

Is he the best currently? I would think the dude that just beat him would indicate not.

[Earl1972]

the dude that just beat him said he is the best

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[chaos]

the dude that just beat him said he is the best

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You're the best Earl.































j/k

[Captain Equipoise]

Who gives a shit what armchair quarterback mindtwink thinks..

[Fury]

Hahahahahaha, now Yemeni is buddy-buddy with elite UFC fighters? This shit gets funnier by the day.

"I don't have a vested interest in the UFC." 

[chaos]

Who gives a shit what armchair quarterback mindtwink thinks..

In reality..........who gives a shit what any of us think?