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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: Marlo Stanfield on April 09, 2012, 08:34:03 AM
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this subject has been beat to death (wes post the pic of a dead horse being beat to death)..
Whats your favorite protein poweder? what do you think is the best one out there?
price iss not an issue, but carbs and sugars are. i want max 5g of carbs per serving. i've tried alot over the past 2-3 years, so far BSN Syntha-6 IMO has the best taste,quality... whats the verdict nowadays? whats the best?
my last order was :
1)MusclePharm Chocolate Peanut Butter http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/musclepharm/combat.html?_requestid=2480940)
Taste was OK, i guess the quality was good... didnt care too much for the taste, but wasnt chalk taste either
2)Gaspari Nutrition Myfusion (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/gn/myofusion.html?_requestid=2481535)
overll average IMO
3) BSN Syntha6: (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bsn/synth.html?_requestid=2482153)
always one of my faves... but still open to trying out others
one time i also tried a musclemilk version with very low carbs, and i really liked it, but i cant find that low carb version anymore..
what do you guys use nowadays? And spare me the speech of real food is better than shakes etc... i travel alot and i mostly have these on 10 hour flights, hotels etc...
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only reason i drink a protein drink is when i'm cutting and don't want the extra calories from flesh food - that actually tastes good because i'm not eating a plain chicken breast.
i make my own, incorporating just the aminos that the body uses for anabolism while discarding the rest. wouldn't bother drinking whey anymore since it's too expensive and i don't think anyone on gear needs more than 150g protein which is easy to hit by just eating normally.
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i drink it straight from the tap
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only reason i drink a protein drink is when i'm cutting and don't want the extra calories from flesh food - that actually tastes good because i'm not eating a plain chicken breast.
i make my own, incorporating just the aminos that the body uses for anabolism while discarding the rest. wouldn't bother drinking whey anymore since it's too expensive and i don't think anyone on gear needs more than 150g protein which is easy to hit by just eating normally.
and thats cheaper ? how do you get all the aminos? or do you just use BCAA powder?
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i drink it straight from the tap
does a fellow gym buddy tell you to close your eyes and suck the protein shake out of a hose ? :D
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Myprotein.co.uk Impact Whey Isolate - haven't used anything else in years.
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first i thought this gh15 fella wa out of his mind with his powder hate
but now, after stopping whey isolate for two or three month to give his claims a chance, after using supps it for 15 yrs straight, i have admit he was 100% right
first i "just" felt better
than i got leaner (water and fat)
Than i got stronger
and then, not beliving in my feelings 100% i got a blood test done:
SHGB and estrogen levels are 1/3 lower than before
i have no idea what is the biological reason,, maybe humans are not made for taking 50gramms of free amino acids just to pis it out 30min later ;)
but supps aren t just waste of money, they hold bodybuilding sucess away from the people mislead from the industry
it s poison in a pretty bottle
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Honestly, I think TrueProtein's mixes are the way to go. At least they aren't selling you 80% sugar like Gasp and the other snakes.
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I no longer use powders of any kind (protein, NOS, stim, creatine, etc..) but when I did I preferred to use Beverly. That is some really good product there.
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first i thought this gh15 fella wa out of his mind with his powder hate
but now, after stopping whey isolate for two or three month to give his claims a chance, after using supps it for 15 yrs straight, i have admit he was 100% right
first i "just" felt better
than i got leaner (water and fat)
Than i got stronger
and then, not beliving in my feelings 100% i got a blood test done:
SHGB and estrogen levels are 1/3 lower than before
i have no idea what is the biological reason,, maybe humans are not made for taking 50gramms of free amino acids just to pis it out 30min later ;)
but supps aren t just waste of money, they hold bodybuilding sucess away from the people mislead from the industry
it s poison in a pretty bottle
Not that I am PRO protein powder or anything, after I finish my last tubs I am pretty sure I am done but how do you know you simply didnt lower your SHGB and estrogen by losing some fat and water? I know losing fat and water lowers my estrogen...
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I've mentioned this before, but a top 5 Olympian once told me the importance of steroids and proceeded to mention what a waste of money protein powders are. Now this was in person, but to think of it. Was this really Gh15 I met? It was 10 years ago.
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(http://discussions.texasbowhunter.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=257740&stc=1&d=1312813191)
;D
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Not that I am PRO protein powder or anything, after I finish my last tubs I am pretty sure I am done but how do you know you simply didnt lower your SHGB and estrogen by losing some fat and water? I know losing fat and water lowers my estrogen...
well , i don t know exactly , but i didn t change anything except stopping whey isolate intake (100-150gramms daily)
and i improved
but originally you would expect to get worse after stopping the intake of supps
don t you
didn t happen
the opposite happened
so somethin HAS TO BE WRONG with suplements
they are more or less expensive, but don t help ;)
why take them, even the "i have to work lot and no time to cook"-argument doesn t count anymore
right now i have the feeling that in this case two bananas without extra protein is better than this powder shit
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I don't always drink protein shakes, but when I do I use EAS.
Seriously though, if you live near a Sam's Club they have 5lb bags of EAS protein powder for $30. Best deal around.
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I know people don't like danta and sons, but his protein is the best out there.
I don't know why people have to be so black and white about powders vs no powders.
Somedays I have some shakes, some days I don't. It doesn't really matter.
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why dont you send me your money directly if you dont know how to waste it.
"ok ok i know proteins powders are a useless scam...but what's your favorite brand? Myself i like trueshitbeastscienceramp agedrolone"
Fucking retards. What's wrong with you.
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As I understand it, protein powders are for sissies and sodomites.
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I use isopure. If it's not whey isolate my stomach goes sour. I just use 25g which is one scoop after a workout and one in the morning. I think any more than that is a waste. On a side note have you seen the price of protein powders today? Pretty soon it will be cheaper to grill a t-bone steak. It will taste a hell of lot better too.
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I use isopure. If it's not whey isolate my stomach goes sour. I just use 25g which is one scoop after a workout and one in the morning. I think any more than that is a waste. On a side note have you seen the price of protein powders today? Pretty soon it will be cheaper to grill a t-bone steak. It will taste a hell of lot better too.
Could get a simple, name brand, 10lb bag of protein at a Sam's or Costco for $18 a few years ago. Today, same bag, pushing $40. Demand is down as men are just giving their cash to drug dealers for chemicals and needles.
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let me introduce you to someone who will be very interested to meet you....
(http://rxmuscle.com/media/com_fpss/cache/1500_013018afcf84fd53ed1be7bac0415c88_m.jpg?t=1333817812)
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSXorBbpMmC7xkpSOoxszj5j1IITIfI_iE2w8eHHU09IEHXEH3rsDmBJ8zY)
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Just go to one of those bulk chain food stores and buy your protein from there. Its cheap. 30 bucks
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51hTt1M7OuL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
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does a fellow gym buddy tell you to close your eyes and suck the protein shake out of a hose ? :D
she must work out.
(http://blog.japanesebukkakeorgy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/asian-eats-cum-off-fingertips.jpg)
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Marlo, how are the sales in the low rises going?
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eat protein foods :-\
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I'm not a big protein powder guy, but here are some thoughts a recommendations:
Syntha-6 - Definitely the best tasting but has a macro count closer to a weight gainer lol. Plenty of fat in that bad boy too (including saturated).
All-Max Isoflex (Peanut Butter Chocolate) and Species Isolyze (Vanilla Peanut Butter) - These 2 IMO are what people should turn to for a protein shake. 0 carb, 0 fat, low sodium. Taste great and 100% isolate. Add your own form of healthy carbs if need be.
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Myprotein.co.uk Impact Whey Isolate - haven't used anything else in years.
this...
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I noticed better gains when I started adding alot of whole milk in my diet and dropped the shakes all together. Cheap easy way to get that extra protein in, one cup has like 10 grams of protein. milk also builds muscle by elevating IGF levels. icecream too I guess before gh15 chimes in...lol..
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i drink it straight from the tap
You mean from your boyfriend dick
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I'm not a big protein powder guy, but here are some thoughts a recommendations:
Syntha-6 - Definitely the best tasting but has a macro count closer to a weight gainer lol. Plenty of fat in that bad boy too (including saturated).
All-Max Isoflex (Peanut Butter Chocolate) and Species Isolyze (Vanilla Peanut Butter) - These 2 IMO are what people should turn to for a protein shake. 0 carb, 0 fat, low sodium. Taste great and 100% isolate. Add your own form of healthy carbs if need be.
what do you think about this one? i use this one during the day if i cant eat cuz of work or dont have time to eat:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/musclefx/hydrobolic-fx.html
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I personally like Dymatize Elite Gourmet Protein. Has both whey AND casein in the powder!
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Syntrax Nectar WPI
Optimum Casein
The only two proteins powders you'll
ever need.
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Monster Milk is very good tasting but may be too high in carbs for what you are looking for.
NOW whey isolate: cheap and quality. Taste not terrible but not good either.
Also prob. my favorite for the combination of money and taste would be Champion Nutrtition chocolate flavor.
Also, there is Denovo nutrition brand that has extremely high leucine content, but not the greatest tasting. Chocolate was all right.
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Labrada vanilla.
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I don't always drink protein shakes, but when I do I use EAS.
Seriously though, if you live near a Sam's Club they have 5lb bags of EAS protein powder for $30. Best deal around.
Drink 4 of these a day after each meal, low carbs and sugar ,doesn't bloat , buy the chocolate taste excellent!
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costco brand because there is nothing cheaper and it tastes great.
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http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nb/lowcarb.html
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(http://www.massnutrition.com/Product_Images/syntrax-matrix-cookiesncream.jpg)
Cookies and Cream tastes AMAAAAAAAAZING!
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I been seriously debating using essential amino acids spiked with leucine or bcaa lately to be able to eat more carbs and not bloat. I was thinking maybe like
5grams bcaa
5grams eaa even been thinking about concocting my own mix
with high leucine and bcaa and smaller quantities of the rest eaa's
maybe another way
10grams bcaa
10grams whey hydro or islolate if you did this maybe also include Citrulline malate to help it mix better
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milk protein powders (casein and whey) bloat me up
egg protein works well for me but they are nasty
so fuck protein powders
just drink pasteurized egg whites, see avi
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milk protein powders (casein and whey) bloat me up
egg protein works well for me but they are nasty
so fuck protein powders
just drink pasteurized egg whites, see avi
them eggs can get high but not that bad I dont mind using 50-75grams of powder but anymore then that just is not worth it. Talk about test bloat protein bloats is way worse. Its not all powder though Im seriously thinking about switching to a more synthetic diet. Everyone always preaches real food I think we are to the point we can surpass real food or equal it.
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I get myofusion for free. Been using it about 6 months. No complaints. Gets the job done, tastes good.
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Bunch of slacked-jawed guys around here!
The cheapest and at the same time most for body benefitial shake is...
10 eggwhites + banana
Thats it!
You will NOT find a cheaper and better shake gram for gram in the world. And it tastes excellent!
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did you guys know that whey protein was basically a byproduct of the cheese production cycle?
several decades ago whey was considered garbage and the industry would send whey into the sewers until the "bodybuilding industry" found another means to make money
"Whey has generally been considered an unwanted by-product by cheese makers and in addition, a
problem to get rid of. Hence, before it was regulated by the DNR it was often dumped in fields
and into earthen seepage pits and sometimes fed to hogs. Currently there is a good market for
whey due to the development of technological processes that can produce useful products from
whey."
http://datcp.wi.gov/uploads/Food/pdf/whey_spreading.pdf
whey protein = liar filt product
to the people who swear by whey,
take the same dose and keep food intake quality the same but increase the quantity slightly. i bet you won't notice a damn difference except less bloat and less gas
you might even look a bit better
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did you guys know that whey protein was basically a byproduct of the cheese production cycle?
several decades ago whey was considered garbage and the industry would send whey into the sewers until the "bodybuilding industry" found another means to make money
"Whey has generally been considered an unwanted by-product by cheese makers and in addition, a
problem to get rid of. Hence, before it was regulated by the DNR it was often dumped in fields
and into earthen seepage pits and sometimes fed to hogs. Currently there is a good market for
whey due to the development of technological processes that can produce useful products from
whey."
http://datcp.wi.gov/uploads/Food/pdf/whey_spreading.pdf
whey protein = liar filt product
to the people who swear by whey,
take the same dose and keep food intake quality the same but increase the quantity slightly. i bet you won't notice a damn difference except less bloat and less gas
you might even look a bit better
so your isse is with WHEY only? or all protein powders?
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A pure protein/pure whey powder is great when cutting!
Esp when you're sick of eating fkn cottage cheese/tuna/chicken breast/nuts etc for a snack/small meal and tiy want someting sweet/tasty for a change.
Look up Pure Whey by Reflex Nutrution. Raspberry or Choc mint.
The . Stuff. Is. Fkn, Awe. Some.
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so your isse is with WHEY only? or all protein powders?
veggie protein powders mix like shit and taste worse (though i haven't tried them all)
BCAA powder tastes like laxative and does not mix well, though i don't quite doubt the effectiveness i think they have their place if you are a natural. the preflavored bcaa drinks contain shit tons of artificial sweeteners
ECAA powder tastes like medicine with a burnt tire aftertaste, seriously tastes awful
egg protein i feel is the best of all but a lot of people get allergy from egg, it has a funky smell and taste in powder form but the ones in the carton that you buy in the supermarket are golden, all you will ever need if you are tolerable to eggs
casein protein (micellar) is a good protein powder, but tastes like chalk and has a chalky consistency, when i was a natural i would take 60g of casein powder with water and every morning after i'd wakeup and my kidneys hurt after i piss
whey protein is insulingenic and tastes like mud water and also the whole idea behind "Staying anabolic" is so retarded, if you are on gear you will stay anabolic lmao. also the whole idea behind taking so much whey as the primary source of protein is fucking retarded, as PWO or PreWO. also to the people who think whey actually taste ok, no they don't they taste like shit, try taking liquid egg whites and mixing in some nesquik powder and you will know what a good damn shake tastes like not your glory mud water. if i am going to be bodybuild for life i am not going to drink and suffer drinking mudwater for life. and trust me i have tried at least 80% of the protein brands out there and i believe true protein probably has the best quality and customizability but it certainly aint cheap
also the whole idea behind adding 60-100grams of dextrose postworkout to "replenish glycogen stores" is a bunch of hot garbage, easy way to turn yourself diabetic or fat. i think dextrose only has its place if you are insulin abuser
meal replacement drinks such as muscle milk and syntha 6 pack tons of sugar and fat from canola oil and tastes like liquid birthday cake. i feel these are targeted towards noobs aka teens who can't eat damn food and expect for these garbage supplements to pick up the caloric and protein slack
2-2.5x bodyweight in protein LMAO give me a fucking break. so for a 200 lb guy 500 grams of protein lolol. everyone who says this has ties with the supplement industry
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gh15 is onto something when he says go to walmart and buy damn food and egg white in the carton
and to go to supplement store and look at pretty supplement and pick it up, fondle it, make love to it, kiss it, smell it, and kindly put it back on the shelf and leave the damn store without a penny spent
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Optimum Nutrition 100 % Whey is the best powder out there, and its the only one I use and never will replace. If you want quality, you buy this product. It doesnt win the protein powder of the year every singel year for nothing. Simply the best!
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Optimum Nutrition 100 % Whey is the best powder out there, and its the only one I use and never will replace. If you want quality, you buy this product. It doesnt win the protein powder of the year every singel year for nothing. Simply the best!
i know this is how rumors get started and all, but if you try true protein whey protein concentrate, it tastes very very much like optimum's100% whey. i personally believe that trueprotein makes optimum's protein, but that is totally my own speculation
also dante said something about "my main activity in the business is to create supplements for other protein supplements, minus the pretty labels"
take my opinion with a grain of salt
also that whole bodybuilding.com supplement of the year crap is so garbage, up with them is the likes of gaspari size on, animal pak vitamins, things that are so unnecessary
also supplements are not FDA approved, who knows what the fuck is in there
listen to god of hormones on this
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gh15 is onto something when he says go to walmart and buy damn food and egg white in the carton
and to go to supplement store and look at pretty supplement and pick it up, fondle it, make love to it, kiss it, smell it, and kindly put it back on the shelf and leave the damn store without a penny spent
If you had read my original post, you wouldve known what i meant.
i travel all over the world, pretty much average around 200 nights of hotel stays a year, and 200,000+ miles a year on airlines... You cant take eggs on a plane, when your stuck on the plane for 10-12 hours, you cant eat the garbage airline foods, and you cant eat eggs on the plane ... so your best bet is to carry 2-3 ziplock bags of protein powder, and just go ask the flight attendants for water and make yourself a shake...rinse ad repeat in 3-4 hours
Same with hotels... you get to your room, your fucking starving, room service takes 45-60 mins, delivery food takes 45-60 mins, eating at the hotel restaurant takes 45-60 mins, protein shakes take 2 mins and you can sleep
Im not the type to subsitute real food with protein shakes, but sometimes im forced to... thats why im searching for something relatively high quality, and very very low carb
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In your case i would use a blend that has egg, casein, and whey
Team skip and pro complex come to mind
I would add raw oats for carbs
And evoo like 1-2 tbsp as essential fats
It helped me put on a lot of clean mass as a natural and was convenient
Youre right though i didny even read op
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What is the point in bodybuild if you are on a plane half the year and in a diff hotel the other
Half?
You cant even reliably bring hormones on a plane
No hormone no bodybuild
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What is the point in bodybuild if you are on a plane half the year and in a diff hotel the other
Half?
You cant even reliably bring hormones on a plane
No hormone no bodybuild
not everyone wants to be a pro... im not pinning 10 time sa day, only once a week, HRT dosage of 150-175mg of test e... i have script for needles so i can take those with me no problem, and its easy to take a vial on board
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Rose acre farms sells a dried egg white power.
http://www.gxfitnesscenter.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=18&sa=X&ei=VSaET93mHZCk8gT546moCA&ved=0CGEQgwgwAA (http://www.gxfitnesscenter.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=18&sa=X&ei=VSaET93mHZCk8gT546moCA&ved=0CGEQgwgwAA)
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If you had read my original post, you wouldve known what i meant.
i travel all over the world, pretty much average around 200 nights of hotel stays a year, and 200,000+ miles a year on airlines... You cant take eggs on a plane, when your stuck on the plane for 10-12 hours, you cant eat the garbage airline foods, and you cant eat eggs on the plane ... so your best bet is to carry 2-3 ziplock bags of protein powder, and just go ask the flight attendants for water and make yourself a shake...rinse ad repeat in 3-4 hours
Same with hotels... you get to your room, your fucking starving, room service takes 45-60 mins, delivery food takes 45-60 mins, eating at the hotel restaurant takes 45-60 mins, protein shakes take 2 mins and you can sleep
Im not the type to subsitute real food with protein shakes, but sometimes im forced to... thats why im searching for something relatively high quality, and very very low carb
You should get a lower paid job that enables you to fulfill your bodybuilding dreams!
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You should get a lower paid job that enables you to fulfill your bodybuilding dreams!
thats the thing, my dream isnt steeping on stage at 5'8 and 260lbs shredded... i know... im fucked up like that..how foolish of me ; /
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Could get a simple, name brand, 10lb bag of protein at a Sam's or Costco for $18 a few years ago. Today, same bag, pushing $40. Demand is down as men are just giving their cash to drug dealers for chemicals and needles.
I would buy those big bags from Cosco or Bj's but it's whey concentrate. My stomach would do flips. I can only tolerate pure protein as in isolate.
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I know people don't like danta and sons, but his protein is the best out there.
I don't know why people have to be so black and white about powders vs no powders.
Somedays I have some shakes, some days I don't. It doesn't really matter.
this. People are acting like protein powder is going to ruin all your bodybuilding goals. That being said, it's definitely not necessary and diamoncut is making some very good posts that have me thinking
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The only protein powder I would advocate for is hemp protein. Its ground up hemp seed essentially, so you know what your gettin. Theres no bloating or gas, feels very clean, price is decent. I did whey for 6 years, hemp for 1.5 years, then found the ultimate blend which I've stuck with for the last 1.5 years. 500ml 1% Milk, 4 raw eggs (large-xlarge), 2/3cup raw oats, 2 tablespoons honey. Every morning I take it, and I've got great energy for like 4-5 hours easy without gettin hungry, don't feel bloated/heavy, no gas. This shake costs $3.50approx, you get 69g's protein, 42g's fat, 158g's carbs, 1313 calories. I started with half this recipe and gradually increased it as I got bigger. Even half this recipe, you're getting as much if not more than 1.5 scoops of powder. It's only $1.75 a shake which works out to $53.00 a month. That's a pretty damn good price considering its all whole/real food. Obviously you can play with the numbers, like half milk, half water, or less oats, less eggs depending on your body requirements, size etc.... In turn it'll be even cheaper. And if you bought a lot of those items in bulk, via costco... could save even more.
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I like Ulitimate Muscle Protein from Beverly International and Metabolic Drive (chocolate) from Biotest
Recently I've started using milk again after not having drank it for almost 20 years
Been buying this stuff (low heat pasturized, non-homogenized, pasture raised cows)
http://www.stbenoit.com/html/milk.html
Usually do 1 scoop of protein powder and 300 ml of milk which gives a decent mix of macros and not just protein
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i know this is how rumors get started and all, but if you try true protein whey protein concentrate, it tastes very very much like optimum's100% whey. i personally believe that trueprotein makes optimum's protein, but that is totally my own speculation
also dante said something about "my main activity in the business is to create supplements for other protein supplements, minus the pretty labels"
take my opinion with a grain of salt
also that whole bodybuilding.com supplement of the year crap is so garbage, up with them is the likes of gaspari size on, animal pak vitamins, things that are so unnecessary
also supplements are not FDA approved, who knows what the fuck is in there
listen to god of hormones on this
As far as Im concerned, its the best proteinpowder Ive used in terms of noticing a huge difference of quality in my physique. But Ive grown more and more tired of protein supplements over the years, and usually just stick to 1 shake post workouft if I have the uppertunity. Main reason for that is because they make you more bloated and kills the midsection.
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As far as Im concerned, its the best proteinpowder Ive used in terms of noticing a huge difference of quality in my physique. But Ive grown more and more tired of protein supplements over the years, and usually just stick to 1 shake post workouft if I have the uppertunity. Main reason for that is because they make you more bloated and kills the midsection.
I've been using ON whey for almost 8 years with the occasional break in between to use a different protein powder
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Haven't had a protein shake in close to a year. The only reason I'd buy a protein powder is for its taste -- I love it with dry oats and coffee. I may buy a big cheap chocolate flavoured bag just for that reason.
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Why are they useless? Because
a) you don't think there is protein in the shake, rather just flavorings, colorings and other additives OR
b) you think it contains the protein as labelled, but the worst type of it?
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Why are they useless? Because
a) you don't think there is protein in the shake, rather just flavorings, colorings and other additives OR
b) you think it contains the protein as labelled, but the worst type of it?
right because I'm sure ALL brands of protein powder lie on the label and don't actually contain protein
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egg whites work better than protein.
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The cheapest and at the same time most for body benefitial shake is...
10 eggwhites + banana
Thats it!
You will NOT find a cheaper and better shake gram for gram in the world. And it tastes excellent!
That's not all that cheap. Using a whole carton of eggs pretty much to make a shake. I don't know where you buy your eggs or powder, but something is off a bit.
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what do you think about this one? i use this one during the day if i cant eat cuz of work or dont have time to eat:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/musclefx/hydrobolic-fx.html
I've never had this protein before, but if it tastes decent and everything that they are saying on the label (Macro's and ingredients) is true then I'd say it's solid.
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concentrate, whatever's cheapest and tastes best
unless you're planning on stepping onstage then it literally makes no difference what kind of whey you use
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I've mentioned this before, but a top 5 Olympian once told me the importance of steroids and proceeded to mention what a waste of money protein powders are. Now this was in person, but to think of it. Was this really Gh15 I met? It was 10 years ago.
"what a waste of money protein powders are."....He was right !!
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That's not all that cheap. Using a whole carton of eggs pretty much to make a shake. I don't know where you buy your eggs or powder, but something is off a bit.
1 carton of egg whites is 100 grams of protein approximately. Each carton is $3.50. I'm sure if you bought in bulk or the generic brand it would cost less.
So what I do is I drink 1 carton per day, $1.75 per meal since I drink half a carton in one sitting mixed with nesquik, which is not bad to me IMO. Though it certainly is not as cheap as something like whey concentrate.
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1 carton of egg whites is 100 grams of protein approximately. Each carton is $3.50. I'm sure if you bought in bulk or the generic brand it would cost less.
So what I do is I drink 1 carton per day, $1.75 per meal since I drink half a carton in one sitting mixed with nesquik, which is not bad to me IMO. Though it certainly is not as cheap as something like whey concentrate.
It's $6-$7 in NY including tax for egg white cartons. It sucks but I buy them anyway
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It's $6-$7 in NY including tax for egg white cartons. It sucks but I buy them anyway
Holy shit brosef...
Is everything in NY just more expensive grocery -wise than evrywhere else?
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Holy shit brosef...
Is everything in NY just more expensive grocery -wise than evrywhere else?
$5 here in nj..a little better i guess :-\
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Though it certainly is not as cheap as something like whey concentrate.
Exactly. And most of the guys on here are only doing the whites so that takes out about half the protein per egg as well (from my understanding). I will make an effort to eat more whole food while dieting simply because shakes don't fill me up at all so I need something more solid, but otherwise I don't think anyone should worry about having a protein shake.
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(http://www.massnutrition.com/Product_Images/syntrax-matrix-cookiesncream.jpg)
Cookies and Cream tastes AMAAAAAAAAZING!
I have this but in plain vanilla, not to sweet.
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1 carton of egg whites is 100 grams of protein approximately. Each carton is $3.50. I'm sure if you bought in bulk or the generic brand it would cost less.
So what I do is I drink 1 carton per day, $1.75 per meal since I drink half a carton in one sitting mixed with nesquik, which is not bad to me IMO. Though it certainly is not as cheap as something like whey concentrate.
1 carton of eggs in EUrope costs not more then 1.20 euro-->1.50dollar. Thats 10 eggs. WIth the banana my more then healthy and awesome meal costs 1.70dollar. Thats fucking cheap and not to forget compelety natural with NO shit form factory.
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I noticed better gains when I started adding alot of whole milk in my diet and dropped the shakes all together. Cheap easy way to get that extra protein in, one cup has like 10 grams of protein. milk also builds muscle by elevating IGF levels. icecream too I guess before gh15 chimes in...lol..
LOL! :D
The only thing that whole milk build is fat around your thighs!
Whole milk and Skim milk are GARBAGE FOOD nowdays because are full of estrogen!!!
If you want to build muscle you have to eat lean meats,fish and eggs along with good carbs like oats and fruit and vegetables.
Adding Whole Milk,Low Fat Milk or Skim Milk or any Dairy Products will only DETERIORATE YOUR PHYSIQUE because you'll eventually add to your body females hormones (ESTROGEN) and one of the worst kind of sugar (LACTOSE).
Whey Protein that are a derivate of Milk will DETERIORATE YOUR PHYSIQUE TOO because are full of ESTROGEN!
Stay away from Milk,Dairy product or Whey protein if you want to look like a RIPPED MUSCULAR MAN!
If instead you want to look like an ESTROGENIC FAT PIG eat Milk or his derivates!
I you do not believe me read this article below:
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/12.07/11-dairy.html
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LOL! :D
The only thing that whole milk build is fat around your thighs!
Whole milk and Skim milk are GARBAGE FOOD nowdays because are full of estrogen!!!
If you want to build muscle you have to eat lean meats,fish and eggs along with good carbs like oats and fruit and vegetables.
Adding Whole Milk,Low Fat Milk or Skim Milk or any Dairy Products will only DETERIORATE YOUR PHYSIQUE because you'll eventually add to your body females hormones (ESTROGEN) and one of the worst kind of sugar (LACTOSE).
Whey Protein that are a derivate of Milk will DETERIORATE YOUR PHYSIQUE TOO because are full of ESTROGEN!
Stay away from Milk,Dairy product or Whey protein if you want to look like a RIPPED MUSCULAR MAN!
If instead you want to look like an ESTROGENIC FAT PIG eat Milk or his derivates!
I you do not believe me read this article below:
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/12.07/11-dairy.html
I would have agree with you as recently as a few months ago but that article is 6 years old and there are lot's of recent info about the benefit of full fat, non-homogenized dairy
I haven't yet found a good source or raw milk and not sure that I would even want to take the risk but I've been drinking full fat, non-homogenized, grass fed and low heat paturized milk and I really like it
Here's the stuff I buy: http://www.stbenoit.com/html/milk.html
This article by John Meadows is what got me thinking about it
http://www.t-nation.com/strength-training-topics/1284
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Exactly. And most of the guys on here are only doing the whites so that takes out about half the protein per egg as well (from my understanding). I will make an effort to eat more whole food while dieting simply because shakes don't fill me up at all so I need something more solid, but otherwise I don't think anyone should worry about having a protein shake.
well we do whites because we buy them from the carton and we don't throw away any yolks...we just drink it like milk
whatever you're doing is just fine though broseph, when you posted your 180lbs pics you looked fucking amazing
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Vitol Egg White Protein Powder tastes delicious.
Especially when compared to Healthy 'N Fit.
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this egg white powder seems like the way to go...wheres everyone getting this?
i seen someone posted a link in one of the above posts....at $5 a carton for liquid, the powder is the way to go here in nj lol
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Myprotein.co.uk Impact Whey Isolate - haven't used anything else in years.
X2
Buy a few bags, and you're good to go for a decent price. :)
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this egg white powder seems like the way to go...wheres everyone getting this?
i seen someone posted a link in one of the above posts....at $5 a carton for liquid, the powder is the way to go here in nj lol
http://www.dynamicfitness.com/SearchResult.aspx?Manufacturer=290&view=all
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http://www.dynamicfitness.com/SearchResult.aspx?Manufacturer=290&view=all
nice thanks bro....this is the best place to buy it i take it/price wise. seems pretty well priced
i still have a couple tubs of whey, so when they run out i'll give these a go i think
ingredients all seem pretty natural, not quite as natural as pure egg whites but close lol
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Rose acre farms sells a dried egg white power.
http://www.gxfitnesscenter.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=18&sa=X&ei=VSaET93mHZCk8gT546moCA&ved=0CGEQgwgwAA (http://www.gxfitnesscenter.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=18&sa=X&ei=VSaET93mHZCk8gT546moCA&ved=0CGEQgwgwAA)
then again this may be better?
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nice thanks bro....this is the best place to buy it i take it/price wise. seems pretty well priced
i still have a couple tubs of whey, so when they run out i'll give these a go i think
ingredients all seem pretty natural, not quite as natural as pure egg whites but close lol
like i said in earlier post, egg protein powders are gross
the ones in the carton are the best
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like i said in earlier post, egg protein powders are gross
the ones in the carton are the best
pure egg whites dont taste that good :-X
the one link has pure egg white powder, which probably tastes about the same..and i know the egg protein shake definitely tastes better lol
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isopure is good but i also liked ON hydrolysate
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The biggest change to my diet in years happened just recently. I got completely off whey protein and switched over to the Carnivore brand of beef protein. For whatever reason, whey was bloating me out and it was annoying the hell out of me. There's nothing worse than busting your ass trying to look your best, and then feeling like a bloated hog after having drank a protein shake. Since I switch to beef protein, I don't feel bloated at all and I have no plans on ever going back to whey.
I don't know if this is true or not, but a doctor told me that the reason why beef is more suited to my body is because of the genetics of my family heritage, which is Scottish.
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http://www.dynamicfitness.com/SearchResult.aspx?Manufacturer=290&view=all
2 tables spoons is 24grams of protein?! how is that possible?
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Simply pick the cheapest one you can find, and as long as it tastes/digests good, there is no need to switch to an expensive & "innovative" brand, it WON'T make you more massive or shredded.
Proteinpowder = proteinpowder, forget all the hype around it
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i have no idea what is the biological reason,, maybe humans are not made for taking 50gramms of free amino acids just to pis it out 30min later ;)
but supps aren t just waste of money, they hold bodybuilding sucess away from the people mislead from the industry
it s poison in a pretty bottle
And how exactly do you explain all the countless studies that show how whey protein and other forms of protein supplementation are beneficial to muscle protein synthesis among other things? Please don't say that it's placebo or paid for by supplement companies, because although true in some studies, there are hundreds of independent research papers done without supp co involvement. Not to mention the thousands upon thousands of creatine studies out there. To say that bodybuilding supplements in general are "poison in every bottle" is asinine.
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And how exactly do you explain all the countless studies that show how whey protein and other forms of protein supplementation are beneficial to muscle protein synthesis among other things? Please don't say that it's placebo or paid for by supplement companies, because although true in some studies, there are hundreds of independent research papers done without supp co involvement. Not to mention the thousands upon thousands of creatine studies out there. To say that bodybuilding supplements in general are "poison in every bottle" is asinine.
i wouldnt bother arguing about that....everyone here thinks that if it doesn't blow you up by 20 lbs within 24hrs then it's worthless
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Simply pick the cheapest one you can find, and as long as it tastes/digests good, there is no need to switch to an expensive & "innovative" brand, it WON'T make you more massive or shredded.
Proteinpowder = proteinpowder, forget all the hype around it
I don't spend money on that shit, but If I had to I would buy from a reputable one like ON, reflex, or trueprotein and also myprotein.co.uk
The cheapest are most likely the worst one's
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I don't spend money on that shit, but If I had to I would buy from a reputable one like ON, reflex, or trueprotein and also myprotein.co.uk
The cheapest are most likely the worst one's
Getting your protein from food would be preferable, but I'm too lazy to prep 4-6 complete meals each day.
Myprotein is my source, good stuff & prices, I can't get it much cheaper elsewhere.
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i wouldnt bother arguing about that....everyone here thinks that if it doesn't blow you up by 20 lbs within 24hrs then it's worthless
I know, but throwing everything in the same bucket of worthlessness is ridiculous.
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And how exactly do you explain all the countless studies that show how whey protein and other forms of protein supplementation are beneficial to muscle protein synthesis among other things? Please don't say that it's placebo or paid for by supplement companies, because although true in some studies, there are hundreds of independent research papers done without supp co involvement. Not to mention the thousands upon thousands of creatine studies out there. To say that bodybuilding supplements in general are "poison in every bottle" is asinine.
all the studies are done:
1. without real bodybuilders
2. looking for short therm results, short term means, they have to be able to measure something within minutes to hours after consumtion , they do not watch long term effects to serious athletes
3. just measuring increased protein synthesis means noting without interpretation, it s like assuming insulin pikes after workout are beneficial because they measure reduced catabolic rate, obviously not knowing that before you build new muscle the garbage from the workout has to be spilled out of the body
most sport-realted science is fucked from the beginning
nobody doe s it accurate without agenda, if done without druged up to the max top atheles it s useless to getbigger
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all the studies are done:
1. without real bodybuilders
2. looking for short therm results, short term means, they have to be able to measure something within minutes to hours after consumtion , they do not watch long term effects to serious athletes
3. just measuring increased protein synthesis means noting without interpretation, it s like assuming insulin pikes after workout are beneficial because they measure reduced catabolic rate, obviously not knowing that before you build new muscle the garbage from the workout has to be spilled out of the body
most sport-realted science is fucked from the beginning
nobody doe s it accurate without agenda, if done without druged up to the max top atheles it s useless to getbigger
idunno i figured protein is protein. and the shakes are easy to drink and can be had for less money than the equivalent amount of fish or beef etc
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pure egg whites dont taste that good :-X
the one link has pure egg white powder, which probably tastes about the same..and i know the egg protein shake definitely tastes better lol
Just buy the cartons from the grocery store and drink it straight. Doesn't taste like anything at all and its 3 bucks for 100 grams of the best protein you can possibly have. Drinking liquid egg whites makes getting in your daily protein quota exponentially easier.
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Just buy the cartons from the grocery store and drink it straight. Doesn't taste like anything at all and its 3 bucks for 100 grams of the best protein you can possibly have. Drinking liquid egg whites makes getting in your daily protein quota exponentially easier.
won't that give you nasty ass farts and diarrhea? i read somewhere the body can't process raw eggs completely.
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won't that give you nasty ass farts and diarrhea? i read somewhere the body can't process raw eggs completely.
Sacrifices must be made! ;D
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Just buy the cartons from the grocery store and drink it straight. Doesn't taste like anything at all and its 3 bucks for 100 grams of the best protein you can possibly have. Drinking liquid egg whites makes getting in your daily protein quota exponentially easier.
try a bout $5 here in nj :-[
and 3tbsp has 5g protein for the ones ive seen/bought
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try a bout $5 here in nj :-[
and 3tbsp has 5g protein for the ones ive seen/bought
For the name brand ones or the generic brand? Just bought some today for me generic brand was $3.46 and name brand was $4.29.
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For the name brand ones or the generic brand? Just bought some today for me generic brand was $3.46 and name brand was $4.29.
name brand, generic is still over $4 :-\
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name brand, generic is still over $4 :-\
Damn. It still might be worth drinking half a carton a day. That's 50 grams which takes care of one meal easily.
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Damn. It still might be worth drinking half a carton a day. That's 50 grams which takes care of one meal easily.
yea id like to start getting more egg whites into my diet, still have lots of whey left though lol
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yea id like to start getting more egg whites into my diet, still have lots of whey left though lol
how do you guys feel about beef protein? i think i might give it a try i already eat a shitton of cottage cheese and greek yogurt and eggs anyways.
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how do you guys feel about beef protein? i think i might give it a try i already eat a shitton of cottage cheese and greek yogurt and eggs anyways.
I think beef protein is great. Tons of extra calories from fat, lots of creatine, easy to cook, and filling.
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I think beef protein is great. Tons of extra calories from fat, lots of creatine, easy to cook, and filling.
oh i meant a shake like Carnivor or something. although i guess i could replace my whole food whey and casein sources with a shake and eat more meat instead.
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oh i meant a shake like Carnivor or something. although i guess i could replace my whole food whey and casein sources with a shake and eat more meat instead.
I would err toward whole food as much as possible. I've never had Carnivor or any other beef protein powders, but I guarantee you'd be better off just cooking up some ground beef. Personally I don't do any shakes at all. Egg whites twice per day and three whole food meals.
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oh i meant a shake like Carnivor or something. although i guess i could replace my whole food whey and casein sources with a shake and eat more meat instead.
If I remember, one of the primary protein sources in Carnivor Shots is beef collagen. Collagen can be any damn thing from skin tissue to bone, and everything in between like tendons and cartilage. They also include added BCAA's to their RTD's.
IMO, you can eat more red meat and consume a decent whey or BCAA product, which would give you the BCAA's with good quality beef protein.
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I would err toward whole food as much as possible. I've never had Carnivor or any other beef protein powders, but I guarantee you'd be better off just cooking up some ground beef. Personally I don't do any shakes at all. Egg whites twice per day and three whole food meals.
If I remember, one of the primary protein sources in Carnivor Shots is beef collagen. Collagen can be any damn thing from skin tissue to bone, and everything in between like tendons and cartilage. They also include added BCAA's to their RTD's.
IMO, you can eat more red meat and consume a decent whey or BCAA product, which would give you the BCAA's with good quality beef protein.
fair enough, i was hoping for close to the benefits of beef protein in a convenient shake but if it's as bad as you guys say it is, ill give it a pass. a nice juicy steak is better anyways. just not always enough time to cook one
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fair enough, i was hoping for close to the benefits of beef protein in a convenient shake but if it's as bad as you guys say it is, ill give it a pass. a nice juicy steak is better anyways. just not always enough time to cook one
Trueprotein.com has/had a beef powder mix for sale. I don't remember what the profile looked like, but I doubt it was worse than the Muscle Meds brand.
NOW makes a beef liver powder. It's a bit pricier than many other whey & casein blends. They also recommend you mix it with tomato juice, so it may not mesh well with your other chocolate or vanilla shakes.
Regardless, you're right; a good steak will blow any powder product out of the water in terms of taste & quality.
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If I remember, one of the primary protein sources in Carnivor Shots is beef collagen. Collagen can be any damn thing from skin tissue to bone, and everything in between like tendons and cartilage. They also include added BCAA's to their RTD's.
IMO, you can eat more red meat and consume a decent whey or BCAA product, which would give you the BCAA's with good quality beef protein.
Awful, but not surprising :-X
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Awful, but not surprising :-X
Muscle Meds also spikes their Carnivor powder with creatine and NO2-type ingredients. Muscle-Tech used to do this with their Nitro-tech protein. Unsuspecting users would notice a bit of creatine bloat and believe they were making rapid gains from the powder's "patented nitrogen delivery stystem" bullshit.
In some ways, the practice seems reminiscent of a handful of companies that have been known to lace their products and/or samples with mild Rx anabolics.
I think even Blair was accused of adding Methandrostenolone to his "Hi-Proteen" and other product formulas back in the 60's.
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Muscle Meds also spikes their Carnivor powder with creatine and NO2-type ingredients. Muscle-Tech used to do this with their Nitro-tech protein. Unsuspecting users would notice a bit of creatine bloat and believe they were making rapid gains from the powder's "patented nitrogen delivery stystem" bullshit.
In some ways, the practice seems reminiscent of a handful of companies that have been known to lace their products and/or samples with mild Rx anabolics.
I think even Blair was accused of adding Methandrostenolone to his "Hi-Proteen" and other product formulas back in the 60's.
Which companies are these? ???
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Which companies are these? ???
A few members here swore up and down that some samples they got at the Arnold expo the one year were laced with D-bol; it gave them a "very similar" feeling. I've forgotten the brand(s), though.
Then, in 2009, there was this gem: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-supplements/bodybuilding-com-raided-busted-over-supplements-wtf-662211.html