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Re: Tribute to the freakiest Mass Monster of all time !!
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2021, 05:55:41 PM »
Ruhl was injured in 2003

Ruhl was basically the same size as Ronnie in 2004 (Challenge Round proved it)

Isn't that the same Challenge Round where he also lost to Gustavo Baddell, who used that round to leapfrog over Dexter Jackson into 3rd Place overall at the O?

Add to that 2002, when Ruhl won NOC but ended up getting beaten AGAIN at the O by much smaller guys, namely Lee Priest and an extremely subpar Flex Wheeler.

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Re: Tribute to the freakiest Mass Monster of all time !!
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2021, 06:00:39 PM »

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« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2021, 06:01:11 PM »
I watched the 2004 Olympia... Ruhl was 5th. Melvin and Darrem were fighting just to be in the top 10.

But, in 2005, Anthony was 7th and Charles was 9th; Ruhl barely made top 15.

One year later, Ruhl was 8th, while Anthony was 5th; Charles got 14th.

By 2007, Ruhl got relegated to "16th". Charles got 12th; Anthony got 6th.

That's my point. True mass monsters don't get consistently beaten by dudes 40-50 lbs lighter, especially at the big show.

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« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2021, 06:02:10 PM »
Not too many, if any IFBB pros could hang with Ronnie on a side chest. 2004...

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« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2021, 06:03:01 PM »
Smoking ronnie

Not in this lifetime!!! Eight Sandows vs. one top-5 Olympia placing. And it's a good thing Ruhl wasn't there in 2003...OH THE HUMANITY!!!

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« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2021, 06:17:45 PM »
2003 Arnold Classic: Jay vs Ruhl, 2003 Olympia: Jay vs Ronnie (Jay weighed roughly the same for both shows)


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« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2021, 06:22:22 PM »
2003 Arnold Classic: Jay vs Ruhl, 2003 Olympia: Jay vs Ronnie (Jay weighed roughly the same for both shows)

Yet, Cutler beat Ruhl at the ASC. So, if Cutler couldn't handle Ronnie at the O, Ruhl would have stood no chance against him.

Again, look at 2002. Ruhl got his famed NOC win, only to lose at the Olympia to Lee Priest and a reportedly natty Flex Wheeler, fresh off kidney surgery. And Ronnie was off that year, too.

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« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2021, 06:25:55 PM »
Markus Ruhl was called "undestroyable". It's hard to be "undestroyable", when you get whipped by someone over 50 pounds lighter.



Good point.

So Branch Warren is a better bodybuilder than Jay Cutler because Branch beat Jay as a teen...

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« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2021, 06:26:54 PM »
Yet, Cutler beat Ruhl at the ASC. So, if Cutler couldn't handle Ronnie at the O, Ruhl would have stood no chance against him.

Again, look at 2002. Ruhl got his famed NOC win, only to lose at the Olympia to Lee Priest and a reportedly natty Flex Wheeler, fresh off kidney surgery. And Ronnie was off that year, too.

I never said that Ruhl could beat Coleman in a contest. This thread was about being a mass monster... but Ruhl could definitely place very high at IFBB shows (unlike a guy like Kovacs)

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Re: Tribute to the freakiest Mass Monster of all time !!
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2021, 06:38:07 PM »
The weak spot for Ronnie in 2003, was that he relaxed his midsection too much (not that Ruhl had a small midsection)

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« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2021, 06:40:32 PM »
Good point.

So Branch Warren is a better bodybuilder than Jay Cutler because Branch beat Jay as a teen...

I believe the adverb I used is CONSISTENTLY.

And, it's hard to be an "undestroyable" monster, when you consistently LOSE to guys 50 lbs lighter.

Has Warren CONSISTENTLY beaten Cutler? NO!

Have Charles and Anthony (or other significantly smaller bodybuilders) CONSISTENTLY bested Ruhl (especially at the Olympia)? ABSOLUTELY!! Coleman ate Ruhl's lunch in the late 90s, particularly the NOC.

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« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2021, 01:20:29 AM »
Ruhl often was marked down for having a thicker waistline, and for not having perfect detail in his back region... but he really made guys like Dexter look small.
Yes he looked a lot smaller but also a lot better.

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Re: Tribute to the freakiest Mass Monster of all time !!
« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2021, 01:56:44 AM »


Hell, I remember when I first saw this pic in the mags. Just couldn't believe that mass and thickness.

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Re: Tribute to the freakiest Mass Monster of all time !!
« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2021, 03:27:57 AM »


Legit shaved ape, don’t recall seeing this photo he’s looking huuge.

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« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2021, 03:42:43 AM »
You guys do know this is a subjective sport right? Arguing about guys placings like it proves they are better if they placed higher. It is subjective obviously Ruhl had a different look than Darrem Charles. When Ruhl was in shape he was great he wasn't consistently in shape though

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« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2021, 07:07:43 AM »
I believe the adverb I used is CONSISTENTLY.

Has Warren CONSISTENTLY beaten Cutler? NO!

Have Charles and Anthony (or other significantly smaller bodybuilders) CONSISTENTLY bested Ruhl (especially at the Olympia)? ABSOLUTELY!! Coleman ate Ruhl's lunch in the late 90s, particularly the NOC.

Ronnie Coleman was was the best bodybuilder in the world at the time, no arguments. Branch consistently beat Jay as a teen. 

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Re: Tribute to the freakiest Mass Monster of all time !!
« Reply #41 on: July 27, 2021, 09:03:18 AM »
No one beats Ruhl from the front absolutely no one. Don’t care how many sandows one may have.

Having seen both Ruhl and J.P. Fux compete, I think Fux was as big and better than Ruhl from the front.

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« Reply #42 on: July 27, 2021, 09:36:17 AM »
3 mass monsters in a line up

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« Reply #43 on: July 27, 2021, 10:36:02 AM »
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« Reply #44 on: July 27, 2021, 01:07:43 PM »
   
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« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2021, 01:10:04 PM »
Pete Grymkowski was a beast!

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« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2021, 01:10:15 PM »
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That’s pretty fucking crazy

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« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2021, 02:19:38 PM »


those legs are unreal...

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« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2021, 02:23:55 PM »
https://plagueofstrength.com/maurice-jones-pre-steroid-era-badass-who-was-still-curling-the-50s-at-85-years-of-age/     the original mass monster
   Nah- not Maurice Jones Drew, who at age 33 is now bizarrely unmuscular and fat.  Maurice Jones was an American bodybuilder who was born in the same year the Titanic sunk and the first parachute jump was made… 1912, for the unhistorical among you.  Though not a big dude growing up, Jones ended up one of the mass monsters of the 1940s and 1950s, with a bodyweight that ranged between 200 and 237lbs at a height of 5’9″, which according to the “scientists” in the natty bodybuilding community is an utter impossibility.  Maurice Jones never missed a workout in the five five years he lifted.  That means that in addition to the thirty pound weighted mountain rucks he was fond of taking a couple of times a week, the dude was in the gym training six to nine hours a week with extremely short rest periods (Baptiste, Strossen).  Even after that introductory half-decade,   small sample of article
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