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"Magic Stick" Details
« on: November 13, 2005, 12:47:06 PM »
Anyone have experience with the stuff, good or bad?

Product Information    Price: $350.00

This is an 83 amino acid analog of IGF-1 comprising the complete human IGF-1 sequence with the substation of an Arg(R) for the Glu (E) at position three, hence R3, and a 13 amino acid extension peptide at the N terminus. This analog of IGF-1 has been produced with the purpose of increasing the biological activity of the IGF peptide.

Ok... now in plain english:

IGF1 stands for insulin like growth factor. It mimics insulin in the human body and also at the same time makes the muscles more sensitive to insulin’s effects. It is a growth factor and is the most potent one in the human body at that. IGF causes muscle cell hyperplasia, which is an actual splitting and forming of new muscle cells. This was thought to only be possible during puberty. IGF is much more potent at this effect than growth hormone is, in fact almost all of the effects you see from growth hormone come from the increased amount of IGF that your liver produces when the GH is destroyed. So it would be very easy to say that IGF is a much more potent and cheaper alternative to GH use, although GH is more effective for fat loss than IGF due to some other effects that it causes such as metabolism increase and the ability to effectively use more insulin, t3, and anabolic steroids.

Another advantage that IGF has over GH is that it has much more of an affinity to attach to muscle cells instead of bone and organ cells. Growth hormone has been know to cause a lot of organ enlargement and bone elongation since it attaches to all types of receptor cells. IGF is much more likely to go where we want it, our muscle cells. IGF-1 attaches to myogenic stem cells, which are only located in muscle and connective tissues. These myogenic stem cells are responsible for the production of myoblast cells, which in turn are responsible for the buildup and repair of connective tissues (ligaments, tendons, cartilage, and joints to a certain extent).

So from this you can see that IGF-1 is great for increasing the strength of tendons and also for helping to heal existing injuries while at the same time helping to prevent them. IGF-1 is also responsible for increased protein synthesis and amino acid synthesis.

IGF does not have to be used along with anabolic steroids, GH, insulin, or thyroid hormones to be effective. It causes muscle growth on its own. In fact some people prefer to use it during their breaks from steroid cycles since IGF has no effect on natural test production.   On its own IGF will give an increase of around 2 lbs. of new solid lean muscle tissue every two weeks, and is also is know for its ability to strip off body fat and GREATLY increase vascularity, body fat decreases of 5-8% over a 50 day cycle are not uncommon. But, of course you will be much happier with the results if you use the IGF along with anabolic steroids, testosterone, and insulin.

The use of steroids along with the IGF allow you to quickly mature and strengthen the new muscle tissue that the IGF has formed, and may also speed the process of hyperplasia. If you need any help setting up a great stack to use along with the IGF just let me know and I can help you out. I speak with lots of top bodybuilders and guru’s so I am very knowledgeable.

Also I should let you know that the form of IGF is the Long R3 analog. It has been chemically altered and has a longer half-life than regular IGF, which only lasts about 10 minutes in the human body once injected. The Long R3 IGF-1 has a half-life of 6-10 hours, so you will only need to inject once or twice per day. The best time to inject is after lifting and in the morning, so it would be best to use half the dosage in the morning and the other half after lifting. This will take maximal advantage of IGF’s insulin mimicking effects.

Each one of our kits comes in a 2ml vial containing 1000mcg of LR3 IGF-1, and is the highest quality media grade IGF-1.

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Re: "Magic Stick" Details
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2005, 04:54:23 PM »
I read the price tag, and didn't read the rest of the post before formulating my opinion.  Hell No.
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Re: "Magic Stick" Details
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2005, 07:47:00 PM »
Note to Vince

"NOTE:  The word injection is not intended for intramuscular use but as in oral administration & any use other than its intended purpose is strictly prohibited & not endorsed by this company"

Do you realy think that that would hold up in court???  Come on. 


The wording is sufficient & any product such as that will require that clause.  In any case, I'm actually going with a different supplier & the product will be in 10 separate vials containing 60mcg each.  The pricing will be much lower as well at $120.00.  However, I will not carry this product until next year because I want to concentrate on the Christmas season with my general line of supplements. 

I try to carry the most innovative & unique products around.  I also want to have products that work.  I'm not trying to compete against Efitstore or Bodybuilding.com nor would I want to have a business such as that because those businesses are too generic.  They carry the same old shit you'd find at Netrition, DPS, GNC, etc.  If you go to my website, there is nothing but a line of ass-kicking hard-core elite products at a great price.  Compare my site to those other me-too vanilla sites.  You know what I'm talking about folks.  My site is the only one around with an online store that's worthy enough to be call a "Pro Shop."  That's all I gotta say about that
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Re: "Magic Stick" Details
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2005, 03:17:13 PM »


You have shady B vitamin shots, from even shadier companies.  The labels on your nutrition products look fresh off of a home printer, and my expectations of what's actually inside the container is much less.   You have no guarantee of labratory conditions and quality (ex.  Pinnacle using Phoenix laboratories).   You're practically asking to be arrested by constantly posting on this board for people to "call you" for the "real" and "hardcore" specials that you ship ground. 


I could keep going Vince, but hwy?

WeedFuck with another know nothing garbage post....canyou please stop posting such bullshit!

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Re: "Magic Stick" Details
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2005, 05:02:28 PM »
WeedFuck with another know nothing garbage post....canyou please stop posting such bullshit!

let it go, dude.....let it go.  it only starts to hurt when you get all uptight about it and turn it into a fight. 
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Re: "Magic Stick" Details
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2005, 06:10:13 AM »
WeedFuck with another know nothing garbage post....canyou please stop posting such bullshit!


That's ok, Weedout is stressed with his job as a door greeter at Wal-mart so I'll take it easy on him. 

Weedy, the B-12 shots are for animal use only however even saying that, its a sterilized product made in an FDA approved laboratory.  As far as reports of laboratory condition forms, that information is available for anyone to get by simply asking.  You are more than welcome not to buy anything from me but its not like I really care.  I have plenty of customers who got sick and tired of the same old Muscletech, EAS etc runaround with all the other companies
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2005, 08:36:30 AM »

That's ok, Weedout is stressed with his job as a door greeter at Wal-mart so I'll take it easy on him. 

Weedy, the B-12 shots are for animal use only however even saying that, its a sterilized product made in an FDA approved laboratory.  As far as reports of laboratory condition forms, that information is available for anyone to get by simply asking.  You are more than welcome not to buy anything from me but its not like I really care.  I have plenty of customers who got sick and tired of the same old Muscletech, EAS etc runaround with all the other companies

I think you are correct…. I avoid the Hyped supplements like the plague!!! As far as your Magic stick… Holy !$%&
Bro…. That is way overpriced!!!!

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Re: "Magic Stick" Details
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2005, 08:05:18 PM »
I think you are correct…. I avoid the Hyped supplements like the plague!!! As far as your Magic stick… Holy !$%&
Bro…. That is way overpriced!!!!



Yeah, I didn't any control over pricing with a vendor and since he was being a pain in the ass, I went with another one, still in Australia but a much better price.  Considering the price for the standard IGF-1, even 350.00 is a bargain however advancements in the medical field allows for a better alternative. 
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Re: "Magic Stick" Details
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2005, 10:32:32 PM »


Are you really this dumb?    No one can be this dumb.

Just look in the mirror WeedFuck.......that's all you have to do to find  a retard ;D

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Re: "Magic Stick" Details
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2005, 10:29:09 PM »
This website is shit.  Who in there right mind would buy that Amphetrazine product?  It is caffeine.  The quickie mart down the street has no-doz pills for 1.99.  same product.  Unbeleivable.

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Re: "Magic Stick" Details
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2005, 04:23:51 PM »
This website is shit.  Who in there right mind would buy that Amphetrazine product?  It is caffeine.  The quickie mart down the street has no-doz pills for 1.99.  same product.  Unbeleivable.

Each bottle contains 100 capsules with means each capsule is less than 7 cents apiece.  Very good bargain compared to No-Doz and Amphetrazine is actually in your quickie mart under the name " Magnum 357".  But to answer your question...... ::)


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