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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7325 on: June 12, 2021, 06:19:02 AM »
Man, a few of you sound salty as fuck. Lol
Watching the value slip away everyday and not gaining any traction as of late must be really taking its toll.

No problem at all. If you believe in BTC, you simply measure your worth in how many BTC you have. Every day you can stack sats is a good day, and even better if sats are cheaper to acquire for a period of time.

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« Reply #7326 on: June 12, 2021, 06:23:27 AM »
Salty? He said buy and hodl btc. Not buy and gamble.  I can understand if he was playing the market he would be salty, but nothing he said gave that indication. 

These influencers are conning people with their paywalls and bs TA thinking btc adheres to their bs narratives. 

Well he was being salty towards all other crypto. Understandable given the only thing bitcoin has going for it now is that it was first.

Hiding behind a paywall and giving analysis and tips is a decades old con that predates bitcoin. Basically for those paying for it, it works like this. You tell half your subscription base to buy, the other to sell. Half win big and think you're a god the other half disappear. A variation of this is 2 guys teaming up, one tells his subscribers to buy, the other tells his to sell. The split the money and the "god" teams up with a different "god" to fleece people again. There are other variations and it's obviously a little more complicated than my basic examples, but they all have one thing in common. They are all a con!

It's actually kinda funny how all the old tricks are being used and working so successfully in the crypto markets, not just the scams and cons, but also the manipulation. The guys who would be able to best navigate all this BS are the old timers who just so happen to have no interest in getting into crypto.

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« Reply #7327 on: June 12, 2021, 11:35:39 AM »
Well he was being salty towards all other crypto. Understandable given the only thing bitcoin has going for it now is that it was first.

Hiding behind a paywall and giving analysis and tips is a decades old con that predates bitcoin. Basically for those paying for it, it works like this. You tell half your subscription base to buy, the other to sell. Half win big and think you're a god the other half disappear. A variation of this is 2 guys teaming up, one tells his subscribers to buy, the other tells his to sell. The split the money and the "god" teams up with a different "god" to fleece people again. There are other variations and it's obviously a little more complicated than my basic examples, but they all have one thing in common. They are all a con!

It's actually kinda funny how all the old tricks are being used and working so successfully in the crypto markets, not just the scams and cons, but also the manipulation. The guys who would be able to best navigate all this BS are the old timers who just so happen to have no interest in getting into crypto.

Bitcoin is the only one with true decentralization and a fixed supply.

Non censurable digital scarcity that I can carry around in my head.

Once you understand the importance and power of that why would you want to throw your money at anything else?

The people that grasp this concept the earliest will ultimately profit the most.

The "gibs" and "Theoaks*" being the clearest, best examples in this very thread.

Long term Bitcoin price go up. Tremendously.

Long term the vast, vast majority of shitcoins trend back down to zero.

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« Reply #7328 on: June 12, 2021, 12:00:29 PM »

Long term the vast, vast majority of shitcoins trend back down to zero.

Long term BTC has a greater chance of being outright banned (dropping it in value)  or scrapped (going to zero) than something like ETH.

Once you understand the importance and power of that why would you want to throw your money at anything else?


Because I get better short term returns for it.


If BTC ends up being as amazing as you're making out, I'll still be able to buy it even if it's a ridiculous price given my short returns are overall generally better than they would be just hodling BTC. If BTC doesn't "make it" and I stay on top of the markets, then I can still pivot pretty easily from my positions and latch on to whatever looks to be the next front runner

Your close minded "all in" approach leaves you with nothing if BTC ends up on the scrap heap.

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« Reply #7329 on: June 12, 2021, 03:20:40 PM »
Flex brings up a good point with tricks.

See the ETH pump? It’s had Covid all week then outta nowhere it declares It doesn’t have Covid and asks people to come over for dinner.

Those poor bastards go over for dinner and then start texting friends to come over, having an awesome time here, no Covid mofos, get here first before others arrive and eat all the party pies.

Shits fucked. All gunna end up quarantined.

Fucking stranger danger folks! if someone has skin falling off their face, walks like a zombie, is coughing uncontrollably and invites you over to see their new puppy, do not go and see their new puppy!

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« Reply #7330 on: June 12, 2021, 04:17:32 PM »
I'm still not sweating any of these dumps.  I'm playing the long game and I'm not worried about short term price action.  I'm thinking in terms of years....not days, weeks, or months.

Meanwhile, I'm perfectly comfortable with a lot of people calling me an idiot.  We'll see.

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« Reply #7331 on: June 12, 2021, 11:56:36 PM »
Bitcoin is the only one with true decentralization and a fixed supply.

Non censurable digital scarcity that I can carry around in my head.

Once you understand the importance and power of that why would you want to throw your money at anything else?

The people that grasp this concept the earliest will ultimately profit the most.

The "gibs" and "Theoaks*" being the clearest, best examples in this very thread.

Long term Bitcoin price go up. Tremendously.

Long term the vast, vast majority of shitcoins trend back down to zero.

So true. Look back and the thousands of alts and shitcoins that have come (and gone) in prior cycles. I know some of the guys behind alt coin launches. Its a virtuous and now well-organized system for those in at the outset. The game is basically to profit with the best sounding pitch or "project", and eventually get out with max returns, leaving others holding the bag, meanwhile putting any gains into Sats, before doing it all over and launching another alt, each time leaving the masses holding the bag ...

Don't fall for it. Very few of the "alts" of today will be of any significance in 4 years, although some from this current cycle will fondly remember their names of what those alts were back in the day...

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« Reply #7332 on: June 13, 2021, 03:57:39 AM »
So true. Look back and the thousands of alts and shitcoins that have come (and gone) in prior cycles. I know some of the guys behind alt coin launches. Its a virtuous and now well-organized system for those in at the outset. The game is basically to profit with the best sounding pitch or "project", and eventually get out with max returns, leaving others holding the bag, meanwhile putting any gains into Sats, before doing it all over and launching another alt, each time leaving the masses holding the bag ...

Don't fall for it. Very few of the "alts" of today will be of any significance in 4 years, although some from this current cycle will fondly remember their names of what those alts were back in the day...

So in order to pump a dying bitcoin, maxis need to create pump and dump shitcoins?  Thank you for clearing that up for us gib  ;D

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« Reply #7333 on: June 13, 2021, 05:04:39 AM »
2017 Vs 2021 Bitcoin essentially holds the same market share % in mid year seasonality.

What it means for alt coins however is we know the numbers have increased from 1,500 to 7,000+ Therefore for remaining share is more diluted.

For eg A number of popular alt coins in 2017 didn’t overtake their previous ATH this run.
 

As for bagholding one could argue maxis are doing that to El Salvadore and Nigeria right now. Maxis don’t GAF and will dump on everyone while claiming moral superiority and freedom lol.

Maxis are as corrupt and power hungry as those in power now racing to become the richest as quickly as possible. I have no problem with power hungry but just be honest about it and don’t BS me.


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« Reply #7334 on: June 13, 2021, 05:20:03 AM »
Wait 3 years for WHAT?

Irrational, speculative action on a bunch of stupid shitcoins?

Your placing money on these "crypto coins" was never based on any level of fundamental evaluation whatsoever.

Go to a casino and place bets on some random roulette numbers if you really need to scratch that itch.

Bitcoin is the only one that matters. It is the one with the revolutionary monetary properties.

Bitcoin will eventually have every single hater in this thread looking themselves in the mirror and admitting that they let their foolish pride get the best of them. They should have bought(and held) when they had the information punching them squarely between the eyes.

The smartest people in this sector simply buy and HOLD Bitcoin folks. It really is that simple.


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« Reply #7335 on: June 13, 2021, 05:20:39 AM »
Texas regulator allows state-chartered banks to hold Bitcoin

A Texas state regulator has officially affirmed that Texas state-chartered banks are allowed to store cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin (BTC) for their customers.

The Texas Department of Banking, a state regulatory agency chartering state banks and supervising financial services, issued a notice on Thursday stating that local banks are permitted to provide crypto services in the state.

The agency noted that Texas banks “may provide customers with virtual currency custody services, so long as the bank has adequate protocols in place to effectively manage the risks and comply with applicable law.”

The regulator briefly explained cryptocurrencies, stressing that digital currencies do not exist in a physical form, but on a blockchain, and thus require the owner to hold private keys to access them. The authority further stated that banks can store crypto on customers’ behalf, either by keeping copies of the customer’s private keys or holding the assets directly in the bank’s custody by creating new private keys held by the bank.

“As with the method of custody services, several secure storage options are available to the bank, each of which has distinctive characteristics pertaining to level of security and accessibility. The bank will have to determine which storage option best fits the circumstances,” the agency wrote.

The department also mentioned that the bank should confirm the existence of adequate coverage with its insurance carrier as a measure to protect its crypto holdings.

The regulatory notice comes shortly after members of the Texas House of Representatives passed a bill to recognize cryptocurrencies under commercial law last month. Other jurisdictions in the United States, such as Wyoming and Nebraska, have been actively embracing crypto custody services by state-chartered banks, with Wyoming chartering Kraken exchange as its first crypto bank last September. Federally chartered banks also received authorization for providing crypto custody services in July 2020.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/texas-regulator-allows-state-chartered-banks-to-hold-bitcoin

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« Reply #7336 on: June 13, 2021, 05:29:28 AM »
I'm still not sweating any of these dumps.  I'm playing the long game and I'm not worried about short term price action.  I'm thinking in terms of years....not days, weeks, or months.

Meanwhile, I'm perfectly comfortable with a lot of people calling me an idiot.  We'll see.



How much are you in for? That's the thing I find interesting.

If you have a BTC or 3 and you have say 10k in, I can see just sitting on it in case something crazy happens. But believe me the minute this thing broke 40-50k I'd be half out of that position, haha.

People buying in at 50k.....well, might as well play the lottery.

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« Reply #7337 on: June 13, 2021, 05:52:05 AM »

Do you watch movies on LaserDisc?  Maybe BetaMax? :D

You are missing the boat entirely.

Bitcoin is not a technological miracle. It is a MONETARY miracle.

Any 'fairy tale' coin that you can gin up in your head will be centralized. It will be led by a group of people and therefore corruptible. Bitcoin does not have this problem. Bitcoin is not a person or a small group of people. Bitcoin is math.

Slap together some coin in a lab that is 1000 times faster than anything else. Put all the bells and whistles on it that you can imagine. It still loses to Bitcoin because of it will be ultimately compromised by the people who produced it.

Daily production of Bitcoin will be be cut in half from 900 to 450 in the spring of 2024. Then down to a daily production of 225, 4 years after that. The math dictates it.

This is a MONETARY land grab that is taking place before our eyes. Bitcoin continues to spread and entrench itself more and more into our world with every passing week.

If this all hurts your ego or you refuse to accept this then I apologize but the rest of the world marches on, with or without you.

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« Reply #7338 on: June 13, 2021, 06:12:44 AM »


Any 'fairy tale' coin that you can gin up in your head will be centralized. It will be led by a group of people and therefore corruptible. Bitcoin does not have this problem. Bitcoin is not a person or a small group of people. Bitcoin is math.


Explain all the 50% to 80% flash crashes then bub

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« Reply #7339 on: June 13, 2021, 06:54:25 AM »
So in order to pump a dying bitcoin, maxis need to create pump and dump shitcoins?  Thank you for clearing that up for us gib  ;D

For future reference we know your thoughts on btc, its garbage and outdated. Useless by default.....Do you believe it is dying at 36k? Do you have a timeline of when you expect its death or the government  to do a rug pull?

Coinbase adds 2million new users weekly, projected growth by 2024 is 1+billion users. Im betting on a multi trillion $ market cap for btc alone by 2025. So Id say your timeline for a btc ban would be between now and then?  The longer it goes on the bloodier the outcome will be if btc is banned.


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« Reply #7340 on: June 13, 2021, 06:55:51 AM »


How much are you in for? That's the thing I find interesting.

If you have a BTC or 3 and you have say 10k in, I can see just sitting on it in case something crazy happens. But believe me the minute this thing broke 40-50k I'd be half out of that position, haha.

People buying in at 50k.....well, might as well play the lottery.

I bought in before Michael Saylor and Tesla were buying.  I don't have the bulk of my net worth in Bitcoin so if it goes to zero I'm gonna be disappointed but I'm not going to be ruined.  I do have a lot of money in though.  I agree that buying at 50K isn't a great idea for most people but I'm not taking any profits on my position.  150K isn't life changing wealth for me.  I'm holding all of it for at least the next 5 years.  I have smaller positions in Etherium and Cardano.  Same thing goes for them.......hold, don't sell, see what happens.


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« Reply #7341 on: June 13, 2021, 06:56:50 AM »
2017 Vs 2021 Bitcoin essentially holds the same market share % in mid year seasonality.

What it means for alt coins however is we know the numbers have increased from 1,500 to 7,000+ Therefore for remaining share is more diluted.

For eg A number of popular alt coins in 2017 didn’t overtake their previous ATH this run.
 

As for bagholding one could argue maxis are doing that to El Salvadore and Nigeria right now. Maxis don’t GAF and will dump on everyone while claiming moral superiority and freedom lol.

Maxis are as corrupt and power hungry as those in power now racing to become the richest as quickly as possible. I have no problem with power hungry but just be honest about it and don’t BS me.

Absolutely money and power corrupt, reminds of a certain coin where the largest stake holders rule over consensus.....

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« Reply #7342 on: June 13, 2021, 07:00:06 AM »
For future reference we know your thoughts on btc, its garbage and outdated. Useless by default.....Do you believe it is dying at 36k? Do you have a timeline of when you expect its death or the government  to do a rug pull?

Coinbase adds 2million new users weekly, projected growth by 2024 is 1+billion users. Im betting on a multi trillion $ market cap for btc alone by 2025. So Id say your timeline for a btc ban would be between now and then?  The longer it goes on the bloodier the outcome will be if btc is banned.

For future reference when someone uses a  ;D at the end of their post it's usually to let people know they are trolling.

You must be syncing cycles with Mayday or something

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« Reply #7343 on: June 13, 2021, 07:16:18 AM »


How much are you in for? That's the thing I find interesting.

If you have a BTC or 3 and you have say 10k in, I can see just sitting on it in case something crazy happens. But believe me the minute this thing broke 40-50k I'd be half out of that position, haha.

People buying in at 50k.....well, might as well play the lottery.

This is de ja vu. Ive purcashed at the bottom,mid and top of every bullcycle since 2013.  We all go through those thoughts, I always attained for a whole number I would hodl and the rest would traded, experiment with. I remember the feeling those red candles dropping by $10-$50 at a time. Gut wrenching, still held.

 Then time passed and those candles became $100-200 increments. Years went on and $500-$1000.  By that time, life changing money was given to me only to be ripped away.

Enter 2017 where $1000-2000 candles were the norm through out the year with a subsequent drop of  ~$16000 from ATH. Never sold!

2021 $10000-20000 candles are the norm now and the impact of these dramatic rises and falls have a far lesser impact on my emotional well being. Because time in the market beats timing the market.  You think by 2025 when these candles break up and down by 50-75k that im going to flinch a muscle?

See for every bullphase and bearmarket their are new participants entering the space, those left over from the last phase hodl strong and understand the game while new guys make their bones. We all lose, some learn and adapt......others time the market, take.their gains oay 30-50% CGT only to enter back into the market at a higher  price.

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« Reply #7344 on: June 13, 2021, 07:20:45 AM »
For future reference when someone uses a  ;D at the end of their post it's usually to let people know they are trolling.

You must be syncing cycles with Mayday or something

10years of smart phones  and Ive never used emojis!  You did say btc has a greater chance of being banned. When and how does this happen? What time frame do you consider that argument to be void.

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« Reply #7345 on: June 13, 2021, 07:36:36 AM »
It seems like BTC , ETC and DOGE found a new steady bottom. People can complain but think where they were a year ago. All are up mega %%%%. The problem is what will move it forward.

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« Reply #7346 on: June 13, 2021, 07:51:22 AM »
10years of smart phones  and Ive never used emojis!  You did say btc has a greater chance of being banned. When and how does this happen? What time frame do you consider that argument to be void.

Something having a greater chance of being banned than something else means just that. It doesn't mean it will be banned by so and so date.

I know what you're angling for though, so I'll save you time. I say when BTC gets banned and you respond with "that's what's so great about it. It exists outside government control, can't stop people using it etc etc".

Go read my post again. I said if BTC gets outright banned it would drop in value. If you're all in on BTC then that isn't really a great outcome.

I'd rather wait, make higher returns elsewhere and only jump in on bitcoin when it's more of a certain thing/less volatile.

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« Reply #7347 on: June 13, 2021, 08:23:23 AM »
Something having a greater chance of being banned than something else means just that. It doesn't mean it will be banned by so and so date.

I know what you're angling for though, so I'll save you time. I say when BTC gets banned and you respond with "that's what's so great about it. It exists outside government control, can't stop people using it etc etc".

Go read my post again. I said if BTC gets outright banned it would drop in value. If you're all in on BTC then that isn't really a great outcome.

I'd rather wait, make higher returns elsewhere and only jump in on bitcoin when it's more of a certain thing.

You're not making higher returns elsewhere.

You're not "selling out" right before the crashes and then scooping back up at rock bottom.

You don't have an edge on anybody. You are fish food in a highly manipulated shitcoin market.

And that doesn't even include talking about the tax implications in this sort of stupid behavior.

Whatever happened to the good ole days of being content with claiming to be an undefeated, underground Kumite champion or knocking out 20 rep squats with 800 pounds on the bar?? ???

Your posts are like the personification of the 'eyes roll' emoji  ::) ::) in multi-paragraph text form.

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« Reply #7348 on: June 13, 2021, 08:43:36 AM »

You're not "selling out" right before the crashes and then scooping back up at rock bottom.


LMAO

That's exactly what I did. I was banging the drum warning about a crash when everyone was talking about 300k btc. It's well documented on here and I love being given the chance to remind people.

I also sold before the stock market crash in 2020. Again well documented on here and put it all on silver which has nearly tripled. You guessed it, it's well documented on here.

Just because you can't do it nancy, doesn't mean others can't.

Tax implications for crypto aren't the same everywhere bub or you're just not clever enough to figure out some loopholes.


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« Reply #7349 on: June 13, 2021, 09:36:21 AM »
Interesting conversation.