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Title: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 11, 2021, 08:45:05 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/new-passengers-first-fully-vaccinated-north-american-cruise-test-positive-covid-19/


Passengers aboard the first 100% vaccinated North American cruise tested positive for Covid-19.
Two passengers on the Celebrity Millennium, which is operated by Royal Caribbean, tested positive for Covid-19 during end-of-cruise testing which is conducted 72 hours before returning to the US.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: deadz on June 11, 2021, 09:14:15 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 11, 2021, 09:35:35 AM
"I follow the science."  ::)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: deadz on June 11, 2021, 09:42:15 AM
Maybe it’s my 0+ blood that has kept me Covid free for over a year now or maybe it the fact I’m not a fat unhealthy fuck. Maybe is because I’ve trained for 30 years. The take home, take care of yourself so you don’t feel compelled to drink the useless Govt. cool aide.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 11, 2021, 09:46:41 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/new-passengers-first-fully-vaccinated-north-american-cruise-test-positive-covid-19/


Passengers aboard the first 100% vaccinated North American cruise tested positive for Covid-19.
Two passengers on the Celebrity Millennium, which is operated by Royal Caribbean, tested positive for Covid-19 during end-of-cruise testing which is conducted 72 hours before returning to the US.

I thought vaccines were supposed to prevent infection i
of the virus they are meant to vaccinate? For example, if you receive a hepatitis vaccine, you don't get hepatitis without symptoms. You don't get hepatitis.

If people that are vaccinated still get covid, how does it actually prevent mutations?

This situation gets more illogical by the day
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 11, 2021, 10:06:38 AM
I thought vaccines were supposed to prevent infection i
of the virus they are meant to vaccinate? For example, if you receive a hepatitis vaccine, you don't get hepatitis without symptoms. You don't get hepatitis.

If people that are vaccinated still get covid, how does it actually prevent mutations?

This situation gets more illogical by the day
Everything they have done is illogical but they are the "scientists" shaming everyone else for not believing their bullshit.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 11, 2021, 10:18:54 AM
Everything they have done is illogical but they are the "scientists" shaming everyone else for not believing their bullshit.

Illogical is the theme of the Harris administration.

Remember, white supremacists and global warming are the top threats to this country....

Meanwhile, cyberattacks have shutdown critical infrastructure several times in the last month alone. That's not to mention the solarwinds issue and many others a couple if months ago.

Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Flexacon on June 11, 2021, 11:04:21 AM
I know Math isn't a strong point for getbiggers, but the vaccines were reported to have around 90% efficacy. That means 1 in 10 can still get infected.

Cruises usually have 100s of passengers and a lot of old people who happen to be the most susceptible to infection even after vaccination. So having only 2 people test positive for the virus and be asymptomatic shows better than expected results for the vaccination programme.

Trust getbig to post an article that's actually validates the vaccination programme and then celebrate it as some kinda failure.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: TheGrinch on June 11, 2021, 11:08:31 AM
I really hope that Trump comes back with Desantis in 2024 and they declare themselves supreme rulers of the country for life

this liberal fuckboi mentality madness has to stop and the only way is either civil war or dictatorship so pick your poison
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 11, 2021, 11:20:02 AM
Where's Adolph when we need him?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: AbrahamG on June 11, 2021, 11:25:20 AM
I know Math isn't a strong point for getbiggers, but the vaccines were reported to have around 90% efficacy. That means 1 in 10 can still get infected.

Cruises usually have 100s of passengers and a lot of old people who happen to be the most susceptible to infection even after vaccination. So having only 2 people test positive for the virus and be asymptomatic shows better than expected results for the vaccination programme.

Trust getbig to post an article that's actually validates the vaccination programme and then celebrate it as some kinda failure.

Good post. Yes, it appears that getbig is home to the 1%ers of retards.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: TheGrinch on June 11, 2021, 11:29:54 AM
Good post. Yes, it appears that getbig is home to the 1%ers of retards.

Do you know what has a 99.6% efficacy? ............ getting COVID
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Flexacon on June 11, 2021, 11:38:44 AM
Do you know what has a 99.6% efficacy? ............ getting COVID

Good job showing him you're not a retard. LMAO  :D
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 11, 2021, 11:43:58 AM
I know Math isn't a strong point for getbiggers, but the vaccines were reported to have around 90% efficacy. That means 1 in 10 can still get infected.

Cruises usually have 100s of passengers and a lot of old people who happen to be the most susceptible to infection even after vaccination. So having only 2 people test positive for the virus and be asymptomatic shows better than expected results for the vaccination programme.

Trust getbig to post an article that's actually validates the vaccination programme and then celebrate it as some kinda failure.
Nice spin on a virus that kills very few of the people who contract it.  The vaccine is not needed.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 11, 2021, 11:50:32 AM
I know Math isn't a strong point for getbiggers, but the vaccines were reported to have around 90% efficacy. That means 1 in 10 can still get infected.

Cruises usually have 100s of passengers and a lot of old people who happen to be the most susceptible to infection even after vaccination. So having only 2 people test positive for the virus and be asymptomatic shows better than expected results for the vaccination programme.

Trust getbig to post an article that's actually validates the vaccination programme and then celebrate it as some kinda failure.


Actually math IS my strong point, you Kunt, lol. I thought the article was funny. Go go fight your demons somewhere else, geesh.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 11, 2021, 11:53:46 AM
Nice spin on a virus that kills very few of the people who contract it.  The vaccine is not needed.

Not to mention starting the program at a time when flu infections were gonna fall off a cliff anyway as they do every year.

At this point, if you don’t accept that this whole thing is a fucking fraud, you’re probably too far gone.

Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Flexacon on June 11, 2021, 11:53:56 AM
Nice spin on a virus that kills very few of the people who contract it.  The vaccine is not needed.

Who said the vaccine was needed?

Don't get mad at me, get mad at yourself for being a retard.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Flexacon on June 11, 2021, 11:56:43 AM

Actually math IS my strong point, you Kunt, lol. I thought the article was funny. Go go fight your demons somewhere else, geesh.

I guess you did only post a link and qoute. You can't really be held responsible for the ensuing retardation.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 11, 2021, 11:59:27 AM
I know Math isn't a strong point for getbiggers, but the vaccines were reported to have around 90% efficacy. That means 1 in 10 can still get infected.

Cruises usually have 100s of passengers and a lot of old people who happen to be the most susceptible to infection even after vaccination. So having only 2 people test positive for the virus and be asymptomatic shows better than expected results for the vaccination programme.

Trust getbig to post an article that's actually validates the vaccination programme and then celebrate it as some kinda failure.

Since we're speaking math here, why should someone who is not in a high risk group with a 99% chance of survival get a vaccine that is in a trial phase?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 11, 2021, 12:01:57 PM
I guess you did only post a link and qoute. You can't really be held responsible for the ensuing retardation.


No retards on here- just people having fun posting.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Flexacon on June 11, 2021, 12:07:36 PM
Since we're speaking math here, why should someone who is not in a high risk group with a 99% chance of survival get a vaccine that is in a trial phase?

Did you see me say that they should?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Flexacon on June 11, 2021, 12:09:34 PM

No retards on here- just people having fun posting.

Just having fun calling getbiggers retards  ;)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: loco on June 11, 2021, 12:30:23 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/new-passengers-first-fully-vaccinated-north-american-cruise-test-positive-covid-19/


Passengers aboard the first 100% vaccinated North American cruise tested positive for Covid-19.
Two passengers on the Celebrity Millennium, which is operated by Royal Caribbean, tested positive for Covid-19 during end-of-cruise testing which is conducted 72 hours before returning to the US.

"All crew and adult passengers on board the Celebrity Millennium had to show proof that they were fully vaccinated as well as provide a negative COVID-19 test prior to or at the time of boarding.

A spokesperson for Celebrity explained the two positive passengers will remain in St. Maarten until they test negative, and then the cruise line will help them make travel arrangements to go home."

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/2-passengers-test-positive-covid-003023545.html


Dang, you do everything they tell you to do and still they abandon you in some island and ruin your vacation after all that money you paid.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 11, 2021, 12:53:30 PM
Did you see me say that they should?

Did I say that YOU said this? This is what the Libby's and the Harris administration are telling us and I was curious as to how you felt. Care to share your thoughts?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Lartinos on June 11, 2021, 12:59:31 PM
A “vaccine” for a man made virus, hmmm.

It’s needed though because the current industrialization and eco destruction are unsustainable.

For every new modern person there comes a ripple of impact.. whether it comes from trees cut down to wipe their asses or the thousands of pounds of plastics they will haphazardly dispose of.

It seems like it is meant to trim the fat, old, and unhealthy out of the picture.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Flexacon on June 11, 2021, 01:27:05 PM
Did I say that YOU said this? This is what the Libby's and the Harris administration are telling us and I was curious as to how you felt. Care to share your thoughts?


"why should someone who is not in a high risk group with a 99% chance of survival get a vaccine that is in a trial phase?"

vs  "should someone who is not in a high risk group with a 99% chance of survival get a vaccine that is in a trial phase?"

Do you see the difference?


Anyway this is what I said in November last year and for the most part that's pretty much how it played out. Once the elderly and vulnerable were vaccinated by Feb/March excess deaths we're pretty much back to normal.



My guess is vaccines will be redundant in a lot of places by next year anyway. The so called second wave didn't really take hold in a lot of places badly effected by the 1st wave. Partial immunity effects kicked in and by summer 2021 herd immunity should be there.

They can stick to vaccinating the elderly, vulnerable and key workers just like with flu
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Megalodon on June 11, 2021, 01:37:04 PM
Fauci says: "Attacks on me are attacks on science".

Almost as much chutzpah as as saying "criticism of us is an attack on God".

Will people always fall for this hocus pocus. At this point, I'm beginning to think less of the people that fall for it than the scammers.

Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Rascal full on June 11, 2021, 01:55:44 PM
Fauci says: "Attacks on me are attacks on science".

Almost as much chutzpah as as saying "criticism of us is an attack on God".

Will people always fall for this hocus pocus. At this point, I'm beginning to think less of the people that fall for it than the scammers.



No dude, might be stupid as fuck but they not evil. That's what I think but I am losing sympathy for the thickies, particularly when they keep virtue signalling and trying to push their stupidity on to me and the people I care about.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Matt on June 11, 2021, 09:17:14 PM
This is a long post, but worth reading for anyone still buying in to the COVID fear narrative. As the months and years pass, the extent to which we were lied to about the nature of COVID as a threat will become undeniable. Sadly, in the event of a more deadly pandemic taking place, especially any time soon, I don't see people believing the experts next time, due to all the wolf-crying that happened with this one. Alas...there is a price to pay for lying.

I know Math isn't a strong point for getbiggers, but the vaccines were reported to have around 90% efficacy. That means 1 in 10 can still get infected.

Cruises usually have 100s of passengers and a lot of old people who happen to be the most susceptible to infection even after vaccination. So having only 2 people test positive for the virus and be asymptomatic shows better than expected results for the vaccination programme.

Trust getbig to post an article that's actually validates the vaccination programme and then celebrate it as some kinda failure.

That's possible. I'd have to get all the numbers and do the math.

I seem to recall reading that the Phizer gene therapy agent "vaccine" is 95% effective. That may not seem like a big difference, but it does change the math from 1 in 10 vaccinated people still getting the virus, to 1 in 20. That makes a difference when dealing with small numbers.

It's also possible that the "positive" test results for COVID using the PCR test are inaccurate at a very high rate, given that Dr. Kary Mullis, the biochemist and inventor of the PCR test himself - who invented the test in 1983, and won the 1993 Nobel Prize in CHEMISTRY [not in medicine] for doing so - said the test should not be used to test for viral infections:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/zbU7X38zfwsY

The purpose of the PCR test is to amplify very small molecules, to make them measurable/readable to scientists and anyone else who needs to analyze small samples of genetic material that were impossible to read using methods used prior to the invention of PCR [polymerase chain reaction].

If you have ONE molecule of COVID in your body, and the PCR test amplifies that molecule in size by a factor of one billion, what you end up getting is a person who isn't even sick, who now goes in the COVID statistics as a "positive" case - this is why the mainstream media and Big Tech went from scaremongering about a pandemic, to scaremongering a "case-demic", with continual talk about thousands of "cases" of people who don't have any symptoms at all. This also drove the nonsense about "asymptotic carriers"; these were people who literally had no symptoms at all, who tested "positive" for COVID using the far too sensitive PCR test, which are literally 1,000 times more sensitive than needed to determine if someone is actually sick in any meaningful way, depending on the number of cycle thresholds used in the test [as opposed to being in the same room as someone with COVID at one point, and having a COVID molecule, or a handful of COVID molecules, in their body doing absolutely nothing to them]. If you amplify one molecule by over a BILLION times, you end up with masses of "positive" tests that mean absolutely nothing in practical terms.

Don't trust me - trust the Nobel Prize winning biochemist Kary Mullis who invented the PCR test:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/wOSeTz57xrCF

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymerase_chain_reaction

Quote
Polymerase chain reaction (PCR) is a method widely used to rapidly make millions to billions of copies (complete copies or partial copies) of a specific DNA sample, allowing scientists to take a very small sample of DNA and amplify it (or a part of it) to a large enough amount to study in detail.

^ Does that sound like an appropriate MEDICAL method to test for a virus?

The purpose of the PCR test is to amplify the size of genetic material, in cases where genetic material is limited, and is needed for analysis by more than one party, or needed to be retested at future times when technology improves, allowing for cold cases to be solved. An example would be to solve a homicide where only one drop of blood was found at the scene [the 1985 murder of Diana Robertson in Tacoma, Washington comes to mind].

It's convenient that the PCR tests were used fraudulently to drive this massively overhyped pandemic starting two months after PCR test creator Dr. Kary Mullis died in August of 2019.

Since you are quick to insult the intelligence of Getbiggers and call into question their mathematics ability, my question for you is: why are you speaking positively of a gene therapy agent for a virus that over 99.95% of the global population survived?

>99.95%

That, and the global population went UP by 120 MILLION people in the past 18 months.

Generally speaking, do you apply that same level of concern you have for COVID to equally low-risk illnesses or events in your life? Do you drive a car? If so, why?

Forgive me if I'm assuming you are concerned about COVID more than you actually are. I'm just responding on the basis that you called Getbiggers unintelligent, presumably based on vaccine hesitancy, when COVID itself is such a non-threat that I am completely convinced that had the entire world done nothing, and not been psychologically terrorized by media about COVID being an existential threat, that we would not have even noticed a virus at all.

Can you sincerely tell me that you noticed a "pandemic" in the past 15 months, if not for business closures [100,000 small and medium-sized businesses in the USA, now permanently, due to bankruptcy caused by these measures], lockdowns, curfews, and the wearing of masks by most of the population by people who weren't even sick?

The average age of a COVID death in Canada is 82.5. in the USA, it is even older. 94% of people who died of COVID had 2-3 separate underlying health conditions, and the average lifespan lost by a person who died of COVID is around 22 months, according to life insurance actuarial tables.

Is this what you would call a concerning pandemic? Because if the global population keeps rising, I think we could eventually deal with a pandemic which is 100 times as lethal.

With all this being said, I'll leave you with this question:

If we just went through a lethal pandemic...don't you think ANYONE would have noticed it?

And don't tell me that you know one 75-year-old who lives across the country who died of COVID. Elderly and sick people die. Dying with a virus in your body and dying of a virus are not the same thing.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Flexacon on June 12, 2021, 02:03:41 AM

If we just went through a lethal pandemic...don't you think ANYONE would have noticed it?

And don't tell me that you know one 75-year-old who lives across the country who died of COVID. Elderly and sick people die. Dying with a virus in your body and dying of a virus are not the same thing.

I saw it better than most given I live somewhere that was labelled a "global hotspot". The majority here caught coronavirus. I know loads of key workers who had to deal with the aftermath.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/north-london-suburb-global-covid-23540242

My answer is simple. You're still a potato.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: kreator on June 12, 2021, 05:04:46 AM
Looking at all the sissies waiting in line to get the jab makes me want to throw up. Can’t believe how many people sleepwalk through life and eat up everything  media shoves down their throats.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 12, 2021, 08:37:20 AM
Looking at all the sissies waiting in line to get the jab makes me want to throw up. Can’t believe how many people sleepwalk through life and eat up everything  media shoves down their throats.
The MSM must love their ability to control minds.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: TheGrinch on June 12, 2021, 08:59:03 AM
The MSM must love their ability to control minds.


YEP..

they LOVE LOVE LOVE it


Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 12, 2021, 10:49:41 AM
Can't wait to get vaccinated- what bad could possibly come out of it, lol


(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/vaers-deaths.jpg)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: joswift on June 12, 2021, 11:36:04 AM
half the people who have died recently in the UK with covid have been double jabbed...
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: IroNat on June 12, 2021, 12:01:07 PM
This is a long post, but worth reading for anyone still buying in to the COVID fear narrative. As the months and years pass, the extent to which we were lied to about the nature of COVID as a threat will become undeniable. Sadly, in the event of a more deadly pandemic taking place, especially any time soon, I don't see people believing the experts next time, due to all the wolf-crying that happened with this one. Alas...there is a price to pay for lying.

That's possible. I'd have to get all the numbers and do the math.

I seem to recall reading that the Phizer gene therapy agent "vaccine" is 95% effective. That may not seem like a big difference, but it does change the math from 1 in 10 vaccinated people still getting the virus, to 1 in 20. That makes a difference when dealing with small numbers.

It's also possible that the "positive" test results for COVID using the PCR test are inaccurate at a very high rate, given that Dr. Kary Mullis, the biochemist and inventor of the PCR test himself - who invented the test in 1983, and won the 1993 Nobel Prize in CHEMISTRY [not in medicine] for doing so - said the test should not be used to test for viral infections:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/zbU7X38zfwsY

The purpose of the PCR test is to amplify very small molecules, to make them measurable/readable to scientists and anyone else who needs to analyze small samples of genetic material that were impossible to read using methods used prior to the invention of PCR [polymerase chain reaction].

If you have ONE molecule of COVID in your body, and the PCR test amplifies that molecule in size by a factor of one billion, what you end up getting is a person who isn't even sick, who now goes in the COVID statistics as a "positive" case - this is why the mainstream media and Big Tech went from scaremongering about a pandemic, to scaremongering a "case-demic", with continual talk about thousands of "cases" of people who don't have any symptoms at all. This also drove the nonsense about "asymptotic carriers"; these were people who literally had no symptoms at all, who tested "positive" for COVID using the far too sensitive PCR test, which are literally 1,000 times more sensitive than needed to determine if someone is actually sick in any meaningful way, depending on the number of cycle thresholds used in the test [as opposed to being in the same room as someone with COVID at one point, and having a COVID molecule, or a handful of COVID molecules, in their body doing absolutely nothing to them]. If you amplify one molecule by over a BILLION times, you end up with masses of "positive" tests that mean absolutely nothing in practical terms.

Don't trust me - trust the Nobel Prize winning biochemist Kary Mullis who invented the PCR test:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/wOSeTz57xrCF

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymerase_chain_reaction

^ Does that sound like an appropriate MEDICAL method to test for a virus?

The purpose of the PCR test is to amplify the size of genetic material, in cases where genetic material is limited, and is needed for analysis by more than one party, or needed to be retested at future times when technology improves, allowing for cold cases to be solved. An example would be to solve a homicide where only one drop of blood was found at the scene [the 1985 murder of Diana Robertson in Tacoma, Washington comes to mind].

It's convenient that the PCR tests were used fraudulently to drive this massively overhyped pandemic starting two months after PCR test creator Dr. Kary Mullis died in August of 2019.

Since you are quick to insult the intelligence of Getbiggers and call into question their mathematics ability, my question for you is: why are you speaking positively of a gene therapy agent for a virus that over 99.95% of the global population survived?

>99.95%

That, and the global population went UP by 120 MILLION people in the past 18 months.

Generally speaking, do you apply that same level of concern you have for COVID to equally low-risk illnesses or events in your life? Do you drive a car? If so, why?

Forgive me if I'm assuming you are concerned about COVID more than you actually are. I'm just responding on the basis that you called Getbiggers unintelligent, presumably based on vaccine hesitancy, when COVID itself is such a non-threat that I am completely convinced that had the entire world done nothing, and not been psychologically terrorized by media about COVID being an existential threat, that we would not have even noticed a virus at all.

Can you sincerely tell me that you noticed a "pandemic" in the past 15 months, if not for business closures [100,000 small and medium-sized businesses in the USA, now permanently, due to bankruptcy caused by these measures], lockdowns, curfews, and the wearing of masks by most of the population by people who weren't even sick?

The average age of a COVID death in Canada is 82.5. in the USA, it is even older. 94% of people who died of COVID had 2-3 separate underlying health conditions, and the average lifespan lost by a person who died of COVID is around 22 months, according to life insurance actuarial tables.

Is this what you would call a concerning pandemic? Because if the global population keeps rising, I think we could eventually deal with a pandemic which is 100 times as lethal.

With all this being said, I'll leave you with this question:

If we just went through a lethal pandemic...don't you think ANYONE would have noticed it?

And don't tell me that you know one 75-year-old who lives across the country who died of COVID. Elderly and sick people die. Dying with a virus in your body and dying of a virus are not the same thing.

Good post, Matt.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: wes on June 13, 2021, 06:20:39 AM
This is a long post
Immediately stopped reading !!  :D
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 13, 2021, 10:50:20 AM
Immediately stopped reading !!  :D

Me too.....actually never started since it was clear it was too long and probably redundant. Poor Matt....he's like a one trick pony....keeps ragging on the same old stuff ad nauseam.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: AbrahamG on June 13, 2021, 05:38:28 PM
half the people who have died recently in the UK with covid have been double jabbed...

Sounds like complete bullshit.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Flexacon on June 13, 2021, 07:20:34 PM
half the people who have died recently in the UK with covid have been double jabbed...

Sounds like complete bullshit.

It's not, but let's apply some context here. For the last month on average less than 10 people a day have been dying from covid, so that's less than 5 people dying per day who had 2 doses of the vaccine.

This time last year the average was around 100 covid deaths.


Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 13, 2021, 09:54:26 PM
I thought vaccines were supposed to prevent infection i
of the virus they are meant to vaccinate? For example, if you receive a hepatitis vaccine, you don't get hepatitis without symptoms. You don't get hepatitis.

If people that are vaccinated still get covid, how does it actually prevent mutations?

This situation gets more illogical by the day

Really? That's what you thought? The 94-95% efficacy numbers didn't register with you at all that there will be some who do get it. But notice the article says they are asymptomatic. The vaccine was supposed to keep it from killing you and apparently it has worked as touted. 
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 13, 2021, 09:56:11 PM
I know Math isn't a strong point for getbiggers, but the vaccines were reported to have around 90% efficacy. That means 1 in 10 can still get infected.

Cruises usually have 100s of passengers and a lot of old people who happen to be the most susceptible to infection even after vaccination. So having only 2 people test positive for the virus and be asymptomatic shows better than expected results for the vaccination programme.

Trust getbig to post an article that's actually validates the vaccination programme and then celebrate it as some kinda failure.
///


3000 passentgers on a typical cruise. 2 get it but are asymptomatic which means if they weren't tested they wouldn't even know they had it. I would call that a win..
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 13, 2021, 10:45:43 PM
Really? That's what you thought? The 94-95% efficacy numbers didn't register with you at all that there will be some who do get it. But notice the article says they are asymptomatic. The vaccine was supposed to keep it from killing you and apparently it has worked as touted.

My point was the covid vaccine is not a true vaccine.

I already have over a 99% chance of recovering from covid. Getting a 'vaccine' that is literally in its trial phase is pointless. Anyone who feels they are at risk is welcome to get the shot to make them feel safe, just as anyone has a right to decline the vaccine.

Unfortunately, this is not the narrative Libby's are pushing.





Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: booty on June 13, 2021, 11:05:39 PM
My point was the covid vaccine is not a true vaccine.

I already have over a 99% chance of recovering from covid. Getting a 'vaccine' that is literally in its trial phase is pointless. Anyone who feels they are at risk is welcome to get the shot to make them feel safe, just as anyone has a right to decline the vaccine.

Unfortunately, this is not the narrative Libby's are pushing.
It never should have been upgraded for emergency use. Doctor Robert Malone who is an inventor of MRNA technology has shown logistics where the spike protein is circulating through the blood shortly after being delivered via the deltoid muscle. The spike protein is mostly ending up in the ovaries and bone marrow. It will be reactivating viruses which is why people are coming down with shingles. Long term affects will be cancer and fertility issues. This vaccine never should have been given to people. They are seeing myocarditis which is extremely concerning.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 13, 2021, 11:44:49 PM
Sigh......this COVID vaccination discussion is rapidly becoming irrelevant. Don't want it, don't trust it, then don't get it. Also, should you get COVID, don't come crying to others should you end up getting seriously ill. I, for one, have no sympathy for you. You made a choice....live with it or die as a result of it. 

I cannot speak for other countries on whether the COVID vaccine is mandatory or it isn't. In the United States it is not. About 68% of the folks in Oregon have had at least one vaccination. When it reaches 70%, the masks, limits on occupancy and some other restrictions will be no longer necessary per the OHA and the governor. I suppose individual businesses, should they chose to, could continue to mandate masks. I doubt many will since it is bad for business.

Since being vaccinated, I've attended two family gatherings. After a year of literally no social life, I it feels great to get out and to see people again. Within a week or so, I expect most businesses will no longer require you wear a mask to enter their premises. I went out to breakfast on Saturday, if vaccinated, you did not have to wear a mask to walk from the door to your table. 3/4 of the restaurant had no restricted seating for those with a vaccine 'passport'. The remaining section had every other table closed. There was no waiting to be seated in the section for vaccinated people although it was almost full. 

I have stated many times how uncomfortable wearing a mask is for me for a variety of reasons. I can hardly wait until we reach that 70% so I can put the damn masks away for good.

Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 14, 2021, 06:00:19 AM
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3000 passentgers on a typical cruise. 2 get it but are asymptomatic which means if they weren't tested they wouldn't even know they had it. I would call that a win..

How do you know that they wouldn’t have been asymptomatic without the vaccine? Your don’t.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 14, 2021, 06:04:19 AM
Sigh......this COVID vaccination discussion is rapidly becoming irrelevant. Don't want it, don't trust it, then don't get it. Also, should you get COVID, don't come crying to others should you end up getting seriously ill. I, for one, have no sympathy for you. You made a choice....live with it or die as a result of it. 

I cannot speak for other countries on whether the COVID vaccine is mandatory or it isn't. In the United States it is not. About 68% of the folks in Oregon have had at least one vaccination. When it reaches 70%, the masks, limits on occupancy and some other restrictions will be no longer necessary per the OHA and the governor. I suppose individual businesses, should they chose to, could continue to mandate masks. I doubt many will since it is bad for business.

Since being vaccinated, I've attended two family gatherings. After a year of literally no social life, I it feels great to get out and to see people again. Within a week or so, I expect most businesses will no longer require you wear a mask to enter their premises. I went out to breakfast on Saturday, if vaccinated, you did not have to wear a mask to walk from the door to your table. 3/4 of the restaurant had no restricted seating for those with a vaccine 'passport'. The remaining section had every other table closed. There was no waiting to be seated in the section for vaccinated people although it was almost full. 

I have stated many times how uncomfortable wearing a mask is for me for a variety of reasons. I can hardly wait until we reach that 70% so I can put the damn masks away for good.


Quoted for future crow eating.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 14, 2021, 08:17:15 AM
It never should have been upgraded for emergency use. Doctor Robert Malone who is an inventor of MRNA technology has shown logistics where the spike protein is circulating through the blood shortly after being delivered via the deltoid muscle. The spike protein is mostly ending up in the ovaries and bone marrow. It will be reactivating viruses which is why people are coming down with shingles. Long term affects will be cancer and fertility issues. This vaccine never should have been given to people. They are seeing myocarditis which is extremely concerning.


great post booty
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 14, 2021, 08:17:53 AM
Sigh......this COVID vaccination discussion is rapidly becoming irrelevant. Don't want it, don't trust it, then don't get it. Also, should you get COVID, don't come crying to others should you end up getting seriously ill. I, for one, have no sympathy for you. You made a choice....live with it or die as a result of it. 

snip


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Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 14, 2021, 08:21:44 AM
It never should have been upgraded for emergency use. Doctor Robert Malone who is an inventor of MRNA technology has shown logistics where the spike protein is circulating through the blood shortly after being delivered via the deltoid muscle. The spike protein is mostly ending up in the ovaries and bone marrow. It will be reactivating viruses which is why people are coming down with shingles. Long term affects will be cancer and fertility issues. This vaccine never should have been given to people. They are seeing myocarditis which is extremely concerning.
Booty, you are back in my good graces. :-*
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 14, 2021, 09:15:25 AM

Quoted for future crow eating.

I hope you are right about my having to "eat crow." -Just read today about the more contagious Delta variant of the COVID virus from India which hit GB a little while back and has now arrived in the U.S. If I am wrong about the need for vaccinations, that's better than my right about it and more people who refuse to get vaccinated dying. But like I said, this is their choice. If they get seriously ill, it is hard for me to feel sorry for them.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u-k-expected-to-delay-reopening-as-delta-variant-accounts-for-90-of-cases-and-u-s-court-upholds-mandatory-vaccination-11623680526
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Dr Dutch on June 14, 2021, 09:21:43 AM
Just get your vaccin......no bullshit.

Says Dr Dutch, MD/MSc
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 14, 2021, 09:28:12 AM
Just get your vaccin......no bullshit.

Says Dr Dutch, MD/MSc
I'm not taking advice from a doctor who can't even spell vaccine.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 14, 2021, 10:28:06 AM
I'm not taking advice from a doctor who can't even spell vaccine.

LOL!
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Flexacon on June 14, 2021, 10:40:50 AM
I hope you are right about my having to "eat crow." -Just read today about the more contagious Delta variant of the COVID virus from India which hit GB a little while back and has now arrived in the U.S. If I am wrong about the need for vaccinations, that's better than my right about it and more people who refuse to get vaccinated dying. But like I said, this is their choice. If they get seriously ill, it is hard for me to feel sorry for them.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u-k-expected-to-delay-reopening-as-delta-variant-accounts-for-90-of-cases-and-u-s-court-upholds-mandatory-vaccination-11623680526

The delta variant symptom wise is actually a lot more like a cold. Runny nose rather than weird loss of smell etc.

Still deadly for the elderly and vulnerable, but they should already be vaccinated. For healthy individuals it's not any worse, so the more contagious nature of it isn't necessarily a bad thing. People develop natural immunity faster and things are back to normal.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 14, 2021, 02:30:28 PM
Forget that natural immunity shit. Just roll up your sleeves every year and get your booster shots:


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/14/health/covid-vaccine-novavax.html

“They may be really the right ones for boosters,” said Dr. Luciana Borio, who was the acting chief scientist at the F.D.A. from 2015 to 2017.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 14, 2021, 03:28:02 PM
The delta variant symptom wise is actually a lot more like a cold. Runny nose rather than weird loss of smell etc.

Still deadly for the elderly and vulnerable, but they should already be vaccinated. For healthy individuals it's not any worse, so the more contagious nature of it isn't necessarily a bad thing. People develop natural immunity faster and things are back to normal.

Why is it not such a bad thing that the delta variant is more contagious? Because once you've had it you are immune to COVID. This is not necessarily true. Currently, it is unknown if recovered adults are definitively immune to SARS-CoV-2 reinfection because biologic markers of immunity have not been correlated with protection from infection. However, available evidence suggests that most recovered adults would have a degree of immunity for at least 90 days following initial diagnosis of laboratory-confirmed COVID-19. Ninety days....is that it? Doesn't seem like much of an immunity to me. Getting the flu does not make us immune to getting it again. Getting a cold or pneumonia does not make us immune to them. In fact , people who have had pneumonia are more susceptible to getting it again.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Flexacon on June 14, 2021, 04:44:25 PM
Why is it not such a bad thing that the delta variant is more contagious? Because once you've had it you are immune to COVID. This is not necessarily true. Currently, it is unknown if recovered adults are definitively immune to SARS-CoV-2 reinfection because biologic markers of immunity have not been correlated with protection from infection. However, available evidence suggests that most recovered adults would have a degree of immunity for at least 90 days following initial diagnosis of laboratory-confirmed COVID-19. Ninety days....is that it? Doesn't seem like much of an immunity to me. Getting the flu does not make us immune to getting it again. Getting a cold or pneumonia does not make us immune to them. In fact , people who have had pneumonia are more susceptible to getting it again.


Flu viruses mutates, covid has variants. That's makes a huge difference when it comes to immunity.

The 90 day figure relates to antibodies in the blood. There are other forms of immunity. B and T cell immunity which can last for years, or even decades.

Also what they don't like telling is that those that had the original Sars some 20 years were immune to sars-cov2. I know you like using google to look for answers. Give it whirl.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Matt on June 14, 2021, 04:46:44 PM
Fauci says: "Attacks on me are attacks on science".

Almost as much chutzpah as as saying "criticism of us is an attack on God".

Will people always fall for this hocus pocus. At this point, I'm beginning to think less of the people that fall for it than the scammers.



You saw people who got a few sniffles, so this was worth closing down most of the economy, and going trillions of dollars in debt globally?

Canada's deficit spending during this pandemic exceeded $550 billion.  That is enough money to provide $14,500 in healthcare [or any other service - or just a monetary payment] to all ~38 million people living in Canada.

$550 billion is enough to provide $550,000 in health care to a full ONE MILLION Canadians.

How much does a liver transplant, or other organ transplant cost?  Let's say it costs around $550,000, which I imagine is probably close enough in the Western world.  We could have provided organ transplants to literally every single Canadian in need of one for that much money.

Now let's analyze the tradeoff:

How much is the average lifespan increased from an organ transplant, in 2021?  I suspect the average MUST be over five years, but might be decades longer these days, with advancing technology.

Do you know how much lifespan was lost per COVID death?  22 months.

The average death of a Canadian with COVID was 82.5 years old - according to all available statistics, these people would have died at 85, on average.  Obviously SOME of them would have lived longer, but given that only 1 in 4 people who had COVID over 80 died of it [yes - C19 had a 75% survival rate for people over 80, LOL], we can probably assume those people who among the least 25% of healthy people as it is.  But just taking a strict average, they had 22 months to live.

And by making everyone hysterical about COVID being an existential threat [it wasn't], we were all worrying about dying [not the rational ones - I'm talking about the potatoes like you], and didn't target resources to people ACTUALLY at risk:

- The extreme elderly.
- Those with alternate health conditions.
- The immunocompromised.
- The obese.

In fact, I would like you to point to ONE example of a healthy 39-year-old without separate underlying conditions [me] who died of COVID.

NAME ONE.

And if you could name one - or even ten - CONGRAGULATIONS, YOU JUST CHERRY-PICKED THEM ALL.

But please flexacon, tell me more about how you live in a COVID hotspot, and you saw many people get the sniffles, and how that justifies the BILLIONS of pounds in debt that England will be dealing with for years.

Do you REALLY think that was a rational tradeoff? Are you a liberal by chance?

Can't have people getting the sniffles, after all!  ;D  Oh, the humanity!  :)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Matt on June 14, 2021, 04:56:45 PM
Good post, Matt.

Thank you for saying that, IroNat.

While I post incredibly long, DRY posts, I think that one was important with a lot of good information.

Do I think there is a good time to impose lockdowns and purposely take on so much economic destruction?  Yes.  When?  During a pandemic.

Just not THIS pandemic.

When PRECISELY a pandemic becomes lethal enough to close everything down, I don't know.  But this simply was not the one.  And we will unfortunately pay the price for doing so...
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Matt on June 14, 2021, 04:59:15 PM
Immediately stopped reading !!  :D

That post of mine was actually worth reading.  ;D  It had a lot of relevant information - I'm sure there was some redundant areas, but it was pretty sound.  :)

Me too.....actually never started since it was clear it was too long and probably redundant. Poor Matt....he's like a one trick pony....keeps ragging on the same old stuff ad nauseam.

You also stated that the arguments Trump made about electoral fraud represented a "Frankenstein's Monster" according to the judge.

Ok, so WHAT EXACTLY is your argument?

The thing about me is that I deal with incredibly specific, objective things, that you can point to and refute IF they are incorrect [although they are usually correct].

For instance, my statement that the average age of a COVID death is 82.5 in Canada, and 84 in the USA.  Is this wrong?  And if I'm correct, WHY would I be afraid of such a virus?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Megalodon on June 14, 2021, 04:59:54 PM
You saw people who got a few sniffles, so this was worth closing down most of the economy, and going trillions of dollars in debt globally?

Canada's deficit spending during this pandemic exceeded $550 billion.  That is enough money to provide $14,500 in healthcare [or any other service - or just a monetary payment] to all ~38 million people living in Canada.

$550 billion is enough to provide $550,000 in health care to a full ONE MILLION Canadians.

How much does a liver transplant, or other organ transplant cost?  Let's say it costs around $550,000, which I imagine is probably close enough in the Western world.  We could have provided organ transplants to literally every single Canadian in need of one for that much money.

Now let's analyze the tradeoff:

How much is the average lifespan increased from an organ transplant, in 2021?  I suspect the average MUST be over five years, but might be decades longer these days, with advancing technology.

Do you know how much lifespan was lost per COVID death?  22 months.

The average death of a Canadian with COVID was 82.5 years old - according to all available statistics, these people would have died at 85, on average.  Obviously SOME of them would have lived longer, but given that only 1 in 4 people who had COVID over 80 died of it [yes - C19 had a 75% survival rate for people over 80, LOL], we can probably assume those people who among the least 25% of healthy people as it is.  But just taking a strict average, they had 22 months to live.

And by making everyone hysterical about COVID being an existential threat [it wasn't], we were all worrying about dying [not the rational ones - I'm talking about the potatoes like you], and didn't target resources to people ACTUALLY at risk:

- The extreme elderly.
- Those with alternate health conditions.
- The immunocompromised.
- The obese.

In fact, I would like you to point to ONE example of a healthy 39-year-old without separate underlying conditions [me] who died of COVID.

NAME ONE.

And if you could name one - or even ten - CONGRAGULATIONS, YOU JUST CHERRY-PICKED THEM ALL.

But please flexacon, tell me more about how you live in a COVID hotspot, and you saw many people get the sniffles, and how that justifies the BILLIONS of pounds in debt that England will be dealing with for years.

Do you REALLY think that was a rational tradeoff? Are you a liberal by chance?

Can't have people getting the sniffles, after all!  ;D  Oh, the humanity!  :)

Matt, I believe you meant to quote someone else.

(https://i.postimg.cc/8c1M41Br/sfshshs.jpg)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Flexacon on June 14, 2021, 05:07:10 PM
Matt, I believe you meant to quote someone else.

As I said. He's a potato.

I tell him my experience was different to his and he goes off on a tangent arguing with himself, imagining points I never made.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Matt on June 14, 2021, 06:04:31 PM
Really? That's what you thought? The 94-95% efficacy numbers didn't register with you at all that there will be some who do get it. But notice the article says they are asymptomatic. The vaccine was supposed to keep it from killing you and apparently it has worked as touted.

Asymptomatic = false positive using the PCR test which is a test NOT INTENDED TO BE USED TO TEST FOR VIRUSES, BUT TO AMPLIFY VERY SMALL MOLECULES TO MAKE THEM READABLE, AS EXPLICITLY STATED BY DR. KARY MULLIS, THE CHEMIST WHO WON THE NOBEL PRIZE FOR INVENTING IT:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/zbU7X38zfwsY

Lol, you can't make this up.

That's why there are so many "asymptomatic" cases for this allegedly lethal virus.  LMAO @ a lethal virus which causes no symptoms to the overwhelming majority of people.

OR MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, THOSE TESTS ARE FRAUDULENT USES OF THE PCR TEST, AND THE ONLY PEOPLE DYING ARE OLD FUCKS WHO ARE ALREADY AT DEATH'S DOOR.

Can ANYONE here tell me they feel they just went through a pandemic?

Holy fuck.

- Over 99.95% of the world survived this pandemic.
- Among healthy people, that number is over 99.997%!
- The world population went UP by 120 million since the start of this pandemic.

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Conning the most prosperous countries in the world into taking on more debt than they did in DECADES over a complete non-threat.  Oh well - Canada will be paying for this for years to come.  As for the USA, as the global hegemon, they should do better than Canada, but I still think there will be a lot of issues to face in the future.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: jude2 on June 14, 2021, 06:17:56 PM
These 2 people had no symptoms.  So who is to say the test were not false positive. Remember all of those during football season.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Matt on June 14, 2021, 07:55:32 PM
A “vaccine” for a man made virus, hmmm.

It’s needed though because the current industrialization and eco destruction are unsustainable.

For every new modern person there comes a ripple of impact.. whether it comes from trees cut down to wipe their asses or the thousands of pounds of plastics they will haphazardly dispose of.

It seems like it is meant to trim the fat, old, and unhealthy out of the picture.

I thought that too, but it did a bad job of that, lol.

I mean, with the average American death being 84...that puts the lifespan lost at 22 months, according to life insurance actuarial tables.  If you consider that only 1 in 4 people aged 80 to 89 will die of COVID, and 94% of those who die had 2-3 separate health conditions on average, we're really only seeing the least healthy people dying among the elderly, which really only results in perhaps one year of average lifespan lost.

Lol, just looking these numbers makes me realize what a joke it was to essentially shut the world down and go trillions of dollars into debt.  So even if 600,000 Americans were all on government pensions costing $50,000 per year each, and lost five years of lifespan - that works out to only $150 billion in tax dollar savings from these people dying.

And I don't see those people having lost five years of lifespan, and I can't imagine they were ALL on government pensions or other benefits totalling $50,000 per year.

I would say the real benefits came from the obscene debt that we went into by making people hysterical over a non-issue which they felt was literally an existential threat.  That is what drove people voluntarily becoming communists for the past 15 months [and where I am - currently], and may not yet end.  I will believe it when I see it here.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Matt on June 14, 2021, 08:00:31 PM
These 2 people had no symptoms.  So who is to say the test were not false positive. Remember all of those during football season.

I'd bet any money it was a false positive.  The PCR test is not a medical test - it is used to amplify small quantities of genetic material to much greater sizes, in order to make it readable to scientific researchers:

Quote
Polymerase chain reaction (PCR) is a method widely used to rapidly make millions to billions of copies (complete copies or partial copies) of a specific DNA sample, allowing scientists to take a very small sample of DNA and amplify it (or a part of it) to a large enough amount to study in detail

^ Lawlz, you can't make this up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymerase_chain_reaction

This is too big to be a conspiracy, I would say - so what I think is that a very low-lethality rate virus either escaped from the Level 4 Bioweapons Lab in China, or was released intentionally, and from there, a huge number of opportunistic elites just jumped on the opportunity to take advantage of a crisis to advance policies that they would never get during other times.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Matt on June 14, 2021, 08:12:46 PM
To Flexacon or anyone else actually worried about COVID, read the Canadian statistics, and laugh your ass off.

 ;D ;D ;D

[RIP to the old fucks who had multiple separate underlying health conditions, and were in the bottom 25% of healthy people who died of C19]

But let's not use this to make average people in good health afraid of a virus that does literally nothing to them.

 ::) ::) ::)

Here are the total deaths from the Health Infobase from the official Government of Canada website:

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html?stat=num&measure=deaths&map=pt#a7

I only analyze viruses in terms of math.  I look at the total cases, total deaths, deaths by demographic age range, etc, and I do basic mathematical calculations.  That way it's impossible to refute what I'm saying, because it just boils down to strict probability.  I just do a comparison with the normal flu, and calculate the numbers using long division.  I also compare countries based on measures they took.

Videos from the inventors of the PCR test, and the mRNA medical technology have been banned from YouTube, LOLOLOL.  Who is driving this agenda?
 This is completely insane!  Communists are such scum - they will never move to live in a communist country, but they want to stamp out any vestiges of capitalism and replace it with communism.

Shouldn't we listen to what the inventors have to say?  ::) ::)

Yet even their videos are banned from YouTube!  And Dr. Malone was called an anti-vaxxer.  Haha - he invented the technology that drives the vaccine!

Here are the deaths in Canada:

For people under 40, 204 Canadians died out of just over 18,400,000 people in that age range.  192 of those 204 young people had cancer or other diseases, so 12 out of 18.4 million healthy Canadians in the <40 age range died.

For people between 40-49, 299 Canadians died, but 281 one of them had cancer or other diseases.

That puts the chances of death for a healthy person under 40 at just under 1 in 1.5 million.  It's a little higher for 40-49, but still in the range of 1 in 800,000 [for healthy people, I mean].

LOLOLOL...you can't make this up
  ;D ;D ;D

We won't know about the "long-haul" symptoms until more time passes...but I'm not worried about it yet based on the evidence I've read.  I mean, you never know, but it's been 17 months since the first case in Canada, and there is no evidence yet.  I'm not really concerned about either the virus or the vaccine.  Only 12 Canadians under 40 with my health status [no underlying conditions] have died, so why would I be worried?  I would self-isolate while sick, so I'm not hurting anyone, and it's up to people at risk to take precautions.  I don't think it's right to make children get vaccinated because some elderly people who actually are at risk don't want to take the vaccine.

Why should my 3-year-old daughter have to be a guinea pig in the first human trial of this new vaccine technology because some old fuck actually at-risk doesn't want to take it?  ::)  That's bullshit.

I thought liberals and leftists believe in "My Body, My Choice", or is that only the case when it involves killing babies?

I just want to share the correct information, so that people can know to take appropriate precautions.

Once again, here is my reference, from the Health Infobase from the Government of Canada official website...they BURY this data, making it impossible for me to find it to do a full mathematical analysis.  I honestly think they want people to stay scared.  Oh well.

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html?stat=num&measure=deaths&map=pt#a7

The pictures I attach show the deaths by age group, and where you click to get them, lol.  Just because they bury this data, so I'm just trying to make it clear where to find it.

This video is from a roundtable with the mRNA vaccine creator.  Just FYI, I am NOT saying that the vaccine is dangerous - I think the technology has a lot of potential.  But until I understand the new technology better, I don't really want to get it - but in the future, this will have the potential to cure a lot of diseases:



^ As with all medical advancements, there are pros and cons - but ultimately, why the fuck would I get a vaccine for a virus that I have a 99.999% chance of surviving, at my age and given my health status?  ::)

[the dude on the right makes some mathematical fallacies in the full podcast roundtable video, and I HATE when people abuse math, lol].
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Matt on June 15, 2021, 02:49:59 AM
I saw it better than most given I live somewhere that was labelled a "global hotspot". The majority here caught coronavirus. I know loads of key workers who had to deal with the aftermath.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/north-london-suburb-global-covid-23540242

My answer is simple. You're still a potato.

The inventor of the mRNA vaccine technology calls it a "gene therapy-based technology" at 9:28 [but what would he know?  ;D]:



 ;D ;D ;D

PS - tell me more about how you are scared of a virus that 99.99889% of Canadians under 40 have currently survived.

Oooh, so scary.  LMAO @ you calling Getbiggers unintelligent and potatoes, meanwhile you are afraid of a virus that is less likely to kill you than your odds of being struck by lightning.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Flexacon on June 15, 2021, 04:17:03 AM
To Flexacon or anyone else actually worried about COVID, read the Canadian statistics, and laugh your ass off.
I'm laughing my ass off at what a potato you are.

It doesn't take intelligence to read a 3 page forum thread before posting. I guess typing walls of texts no one reads is easier when all you know is how to potato.

(https://i.chzbgr.com/full/4331978496/h7D9A5800/hay-look-its-a-a-retarded-mrpotato-head)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 15, 2021, 05:06:09 AM
These 2 people had no symptoms.  So who is to say the test were not false positive. Remember all of those during football season.
There are so many false positives, how do we know what is a positive positive?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Flexacon on June 15, 2021, 05:14:23 AM
These 2 people had no symptoms.  So who is to say the test were not false positive. Remember all of those during football season.

If it's 2 people sharing a room especially a couple then it's a good chance it's not a false positive.

Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 15, 2021, 05:38:00 AM
Sigh......this COVID vaccination discussion is rapidly becoming irrelevant.

Then dont take part in it, and just move along, rather than adding more irrelevant discussion... 8)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: joswift on June 15, 2021, 06:27:27 AM
I'm laughing my ass off at what a potato you are.

It doesn't take intelligence to read a 3 page forum thread before posting. I guess typing walls of texts no one reads is easier when all you know is how to potato.

(https://i.chzbgr.com/full/4331978496/h7D9A5800/hay-look-its-a-a-retarded-mrpotato-head)

you could try countering some of the points he made rather trhan calling him names, it makes you look pretty stupid
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Sissysquats on June 15, 2021, 06:33:33 AM
Maybe those two that got covid had bogus vax  certificates
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Flexacon on June 15, 2021, 06:55:47 AM
you could try countering some of the points he made rather trhan calling him names, it makes you look pretty stupid

Why would I try and countering some of his points when from the outset back in March I've said a lot of the same things myself?

Just because I call most of you retards for not understanding what you're talking about (like in this thread regarding the cruise liner) it doesn't mean I think your general conclusions over the pandemic and vaccinations are wrong. My bad for expecting retards to be able to understand that.

My first post back in Feb 2020 on the subject. Bare in mind I made this post before any lockdowns, before any pandemic models, before the virus was being discussed by mainstream media. I knew the price that would need to be paid to ensure we had the best outcome for the majority.


The virus taking out a large chunk of the elderly population is tragic, but at the same time the harsh reality is that it's a necessity.

Matts a fucking potato on the subject as he thinks just because there were almost no cases in his little shithole corner of Canada, then that's what it must be like everywhere else. You can explain that isn't the case a 100 times in a 100 different ways and I've tried, but it doesn't register in his potato brain. His other points for the most, I don't disagree with.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: joswift on June 15, 2021, 10:12:24 AM
Why would I try and countering some of his points when from the outset back in March I've said a lot of the same things myself?

Just because I call most of you retards for not understanding what you're talking about (like in this thread regarding the cruise liner) it doesn't mean I think your general conclusions over the pandemic and vaccinations are wrong. My bad for expecting retards to be able to understand that.

My first post back in Feb 2020 on the subject. Bare in mind I made this post before any lockdowns, before any pandemic models, before the virus was being discussed by mainstream media. I knew the price that would need to be paid to ensure we had the best outcome for the majority.

Matts a fucking potato on the subject as he thinks just because there were almost no cases in his little shithole corner of Canada, then that's what it must be like everywhere else. You can explain that isn't the case a 100 times in a 100 different ways and I've tried, but it doesn't register in his potato brain. His other points for the most, I don't disagree with.
Good post, Im with you now..
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 15, 2021, 10:18:03 AM
Why would I try and countering some of his points when from the outset back in March I've said a lot of the same things myself?

Just because I call most of you retards for not understanding what you're talking about (like in this thread regarding the cruise liner) it doesn't mean I think your general conclusions over the pandemic and vaccinations are wrong. My bad for expecting retards to be able to understand that.



What a motherfucking arrogant, self important asshole you are, lol.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 15, 2021, 10:29:48 AM

Flu viruses mutates, covid has variants. That's makes a huge difference when it comes to immunity.

The 90 day figure relates to antibodies in the blood. There are other forms of immunity. B and T cell immunity which can last for years, or even decades.

Also what they don't like telling is that those that had the original Sars some 20 years were immune to sars-cov2. I know you like using google to look for answers. Give it whirl.

Thanks. I will give it a whirl.

I've never had SARS, thank goodness. I have had enough respiratory illnesses to last a couple of lifetimes, mainly pneumonia. At the moment, I am fighting off a common cold with Zicam....which is probably useless.  :-\
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 15, 2021, 10:38:21 AM
That post of mine was actually worth reading.  ;D  It had a lot of relevant information - I'm sure there was some redundant areas, but it was pretty sound.  :)

You also stated that the arguments Trump made about electoral fraud represented a "Frankenstein's Monster" according to the judge.

Ok, so WHAT EXACTLY is your argument?

The thing about me is that I deal with incredibly specific, objective things, that you can point to and refute IF they are incorrect [although they are usually correct].

For instance, my statement that the average age of a COVID death is 82.5 in Canada, and 84 in the USA.  Is this wrong?  And if I'm correct, WHY would I be afraid of such a virus?

Huh? I don't recall posting that some judge said in regards to election fraud and "Frankenstein's monster". If he said that, it was his statement not mine.

That your dealings are usually correct is your opinion. Others might say you are usually way off base.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Flexacon on June 15, 2021, 10:51:32 AM

What a motherfucking arrogant, self important asshole you are, lol.

My apologies. I will exit this thread so you can have a safe space.

PM me if you want Matt.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 16, 2021, 09:39:56 AM
All Vaccinated:


Royal Caribbean delays cruise ship after 8 crew members test positive for Covid

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/royal-caribbean-delays-cruise-ship-after-8-crew-members-test-n1270979
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 16, 2021, 10:33:43 AM
All Vaccinated:


Royal Caribbean delays cruise ship after 8 crew members test positive for Covid

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/royal-caribbean-delays-cruise-ship-after-8-crew-members-test-n1270979

What a wonderful 'vaccine'
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 16, 2021, 10:37:20 AM
All Vaccinated:


Royal Caribbean delays cruise ship after 8 crew members test positive for Covid

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/royal-caribbean-delays-cruise-ship-after-8-crew-members-test-n1270979

I imagine we're going to run into a lot of these scenarios.
AS long as they dont shut shit down again, we're good. Its not a dangerous virus for 99.94% of the population.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Matt on June 16, 2021, 11:13:50 AM
Huh? I don't recall posting that some judge said in regards to election fraud and "Frankenstein's monster". If he said that, it was his statement not mine.

Yes, you were quoting the judge.  They were not your words.

That your dealings are usually correct is your opinion. Others might say you are usually way off base.

Not anymore.  I make it clear if I'm posting my personal view.

I have decided to state facts, as the "progressive" left has become increasingly more insane.

If I say that heart disease and cancer are the two leading causes of death, I am stating a fact, not an opinion.

On that note, I welcome you to correct the above information, which I am fairly certain is still a fact [it was pre-COVID, and I don't think it has changed since then - but I could be wrong].

So by all means, Prime - please correct me.

If I'm wrong, I want to be corrected.  It only helps me to correct me.

Spewing insults doesn't help me - and I don't think it helps anyone.  It just degrades the quality of the board.

I do think adding some ad hominem in ADDITION to a reasoned argument [rather than in LIEU of one] is fine.  But just include an argument!  I hate when people just name-call, and don't post an argument.

So - am I wrong about heart disease and cancer being the two leading causes of death?  If I am, please let me know.  Again, you would be helping me to correct me.

Mr. RAT TERRIER LOVER!!
Mr. RAT TERRIER LOVER!!
Mr. RAT TERRIER LOVER!!

 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: King Shizzo on June 16, 2021, 11:19:50 AM

What a motherfucking arrogant, self important asshole you are, lol.
Don't bring Chaos into this.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 16, 2021, 01:49:55 PM
Yes, you were quoting the judge.  They were not your words.

Not anymore.  I make it clear if I'm posting my personal view.

I have decided to state facts, as the "progressive" left has become increasingly more insane.

If I say that heart disease and cancer are the two leading causes of death, I am stating a fact, not an opinion.

On that note, I welcome you to correct the above information, which I am fairly certain is still a fact [it was pre-COVID, and I don't think it has changed since then - but I could be wrong].

So by all means, Prime - please correct me.

If I'm wrong, I want to be corrected.  It only helps me to correct me.

Spewing insults doesn't help me - and I don't think it helps anyone.  It just degrades the quality of the board.

I do think adding some ad hominem in ADDITION to a reasoned argument [rather than in LIEU of one] is fine.  But just include an argument!  I hate when people just name-call, and don't post an argument.

So - am I wrong about heart disease and cancer being the two leading causes of death?  If I am, please let me know.  Again, you would be helping me to correct me.

Mr. RAT TERRIER LOVER!!
Mr. RAT TERRIER LOVER!!
Mr. RAT TERRIER LOVER!!

 8) 8) 8)

You are correct. The 14 different types cardiovascular disease combined are the #1 cause of death in the world (about 18 million in 2017). More than 100 different types of cancers combined are #2 cause of death in the world (about 9.5 million in 2017).

It is estimated that 3 million people died as a result of COVID-19 and it's varients in 2020.

If numbers told the whole story, COVID-19 is about 4th on the list of causes of death. The one thing to consider is that COVID is essentially one disease whereas the #1 and #2 causes cover a multitude of different non-communicable health conditions. COVID is a communicable disease where the other two are not. Despite that you sometimes hear someone say he/she gave me a heart attack. LOL.

FYI, lucky for you I don't consider being called Mr. Rat Terrier lover name calling.  ;D
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Taffin on June 16, 2021, 02:26:46 PM
Yes, you were quoting the judge.  They were not your words.

Not anymore.  I make it clear if I'm posting my personal view.

I have decided to state facts, as the "progressive" left has become increasingly more insane.

If I say that heart disease and cancer are the two leading causes of death, I am stating a fact, not an opinion.

On that note, I welcome you to correct the above information, which I am fairly certain is still a fact [it was pre-COVID, and I don't think it has changed since then - but I could be wrong].

So by all means, Prime - please correct me.

If I'm wrong, I want to be corrected.  It only helps me to correct me.

Spewing insults doesn't help me - and I don't think it helps anyone.  It just degrades the quality of the board.

I do think adding some ad hominem in ADDITION to a reasoned argument [rather than in LIEU of one] is fine.  But just include an argument!  I hate when people just name-call, and don't post an argument.

So - am I wrong about heart disease and cancer being the two leading causes of death?  If I am, please let me know.  Again, you would be helping me to correct me.

Mr. RAT TERRIER LOVER!!
Mr. RAT TERRIER LOVER!!
Mr. RAT TERRIER LOVER!!

 8) 8) 8)


Just shut up you dick  ;D
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 16, 2021, 03:17:20 PM
You are correct. The 14 different types cardiovascular disease combined are the #1 cause of death in the world (about 18 million in 2017). More than 100 different types of cancers combined are #2 cause of death in the world (about 9.5 million in 2017).

It is estimated that 3 million people died as a result of COVID-19 and it's varients in 2020.

If numbers told the whole story, COVID-19 is about 4th on the list of causes of death. The one thing to consider is that COVID is essentially one disease whereas the #1 and #2 causes cover a multitude of different non-communicable health conditions. COVID is a communicable disease where the other two are not. Despite that you sometimes hear someone say he/she gave me a heart attack. LOL.

FYI, lucky for you I don't consider being called Mr. Rat Terrier lover name calling.  ;D

COVID isnt a disease.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Fortress on June 16, 2021, 03:23:38 PM
“Disease”

“Vaccine”

“Jab”

“Dose”

“Mask up”

“Social distance”

These and a few more throw Fortress into a rage.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Flexacon on June 16, 2021, 03:32:47 PM
COVID isnt a disease.

Bro...

The D in COVID stands for Disease
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 16, 2021, 03:39:41 PM
COVID isnt a disease.

Is this some manner of trick reply?

If it is not a disease, what would you say it is then?

The World Health Organization seems to think it is a disease.

Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) is an infectious disease caused by a newly discovered coronavirus.

https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus#tab=tab_1

Do you know something about COVID-19 they do not?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Fortress on June 16, 2021, 03:40:59 PM
Is this some manner of trick reply?

If it is not a disease, what would you say it is then?

The World Health Organization seems to think it is a disease.

Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) is an infectious disease caused by a newly discovered coronavirus.

https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus#tab=tab_1

Do you know something about COVID-19 they do not?

You’re a disease, Soggy. Know that for certain.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 16, 2021, 04:33:47 PM
Is this some manner of trick reply?

If it is not a disease, what would you say it is then?

The World Health Organization seems to think it is a disease.

Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) is an infectious disease caused by a newly discovered coronavirus.

https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus#tab=tab_1

Do you know something about COVID-19 they do not?

Its a man-made flu-bug.
Cancer is a disease.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 16, 2021, 04:43:39 PM
Its a man-made flu-bug.
Cancer is a disease.

And that's your opinion, which is something you are entitled to.  :)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 16, 2021, 05:19:23 PM
You are correct. The 14 different types cardiovascular disease combined are the #1 cause of death in the world (about 18 million in 2017). More than 100 different types of cancers combined are #2 cause of death in the world (about 9.5 million in 2017).

It is estimated that 3 million people died as a result of COVID-19 and it's varients in 2020.

If numbers told the whole story, COVID-19 is about 4th on the list of causes of death. The one thing to consider is that COVID is essentially one disease whereas the #1 and #2 causes cover a multitude of different non-communicable health conditions. COVID is a communicable disease where the other two are not. Despite that you sometimes hear someone say he/she gave me a heart attack. LOL.

FYI, lucky for you I don't consider being called Mr. Rat Terrier lover name calling.  ;D

Most of the Covid deaths had co-morbidities. If you only include people that died of just Covid the number of covid deaths would be much lower.



Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Chubz on June 16, 2021, 06:20:47 PM
DEATH SENTENCE


Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 16, 2021, 06:47:14 PM
Most of the Covid deaths had co-morbidities. If you only include people that died of just Covid the number of covid deaths would be much lower.

How does one die just of COVID? What does that mean? COVID causes respiratory failure among other things. I think you have to ask the question, would this person have died at the time they did, had they not had COVID? If the answer is no, then they died of COVID.

This AAMC article describes how COVID deaths are counted.

How are COVID-19 deaths counted? It’s complicated

https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted-it-s-complicated

Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 16, 2021, 06:55:34 PM
I read a newspaper article today about someone who had the COVID vaccination and did not developed any immunity to it because they already had a compromised immune system. Apparently, this is pretty common. I think with this person it was as a result of having leukemia.

Cancer treatments can seriously destroy a person's immune system depending on how aggressive the treatment is. I have friend who survived stage 4 throat cancer. The cancer was arrested with chemotherapy. As a result of the chemo, she now has congestive heart failure and issues with skin cancer due to the fact that her immune system is shot.   
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: honest on June 16, 2021, 07:10:11 PM
It never should have been upgraded for emergency use. Doctor Robert Malone who is an inventor of MRNA technology has shown logistics where the spike protein is circulating through the blood shortly after being delivered via the deltoid muscle. The spike protein is mostly ending up in the ovaries and bone marrow. It will be reactivating viruses which is why people are coming down with shingles. Long term affects will be cancer and fertility issues. This vaccine never should have been given to people. They are seeing myocarditis which is extremely concerning.

Thats why i opted for astra Zeneca too much unknown with MRNA technology, i figured I'm immunised for other diseases, If I'm required to be  immunised for Covid, i at least want to do it with the same manufacturing technique method as my previous vaccinations.

Im not pro Covid I still think Hydroxy chloroquine would work ivermectin effectively,and the disease kills mainly those with underlying issues or people with obesity. I just want to get on a plane and travel again, if two shots is all it will take. Good.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 16, 2021, 07:16:53 PM
Thats why i opted for astra Zeneca too much unknown with MRNA technology, i figured I'm immunised for other diseases, If I'm required to be  immunised for Covid, i at least want to do it with the same manufacturing technique method as my previous vaccinations.

Im not pro Covid I still think Hydroxy chloroquine would work ivermectin effectively,and the disease kills mainly those with underlying issues or people with obesity. I just want to get on a plane and travel again, if two shots is all it will take. Good.

I hear you. I am so ready to go places, it is killing me. And I live where I can still leave the country if I choose.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 16, 2021, 07:28:38 PM
You’re a disease, Soggy. Know that for certain.


 :D
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 16, 2021, 07:47:00 PM
How does one die just of COVID? What does that mean? COVID causes respiratory failure among other things. I think you have to ask the question, would this person have died at the time they did, had they not had COVID? If the answer is no, then they died of COVID.

This AAMC article describes how COVID deaths are counted.

How are COVID-19 deaths counted? It’s complicated

https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted-it-s-complicated

I will make this simple and easy to understand for all.

1. A high percentage of people that died of covid had other ailments that contributed to their death.

2. If someone was in a car accident and had covid, it was considered a covid death. I someone had a heart attack and tested positive for covid, it was considered a covid death.

3. If you don't have these ailments, your risk of a dying from Covid is low ( depending on age of course) and the 600,000+ deaths being reported as covid deaths is misleading.

My point is, for younger, healthy people, covid is not a serious health concern and no need to be vaccinated.




Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Matt on June 16, 2021, 08:37:48 PM
I will make this simple and easy to understand for all.

1. A high percentage of people that died of covid had other ailments that contributed to their death.

2. If someone was in a car accident and had covid, it was considered a covid death. I someone had a heart attack and tested positive for covid, it was considered a covid death.

3. If you don't have these ailments, your risk of a dying from Covid is low ( depending on age of course) and the 600,000+ deaths being reported as covid deaths is misleading.

My point is, for younger, healthy people, covid is not a serious health concern and no need to be vaccinated.




2.

Yep - it's amazing how people's complete understanding of what you just posted has driven this fraud.

[1] According to the CDC, 94% of people dying of Covid-19 had 2-3 separate health conditions [per 10 people dying of Covid-19, they collectively had 26 separate health conditions].  This means that out of the 600,000 people who died, a staggering 564,000 had 2-3 separate underlying health conditions!  That means that only 36,000 people died exclusively of Covid-19!

[2] Among the people who "died of Covid-19" [according to the disingenuous, misleading, and I would say outright FRAUDULENT reporting of such deaths, as explained in my previous point], the average age of a death in the USA is 84!  In Canada, that figure is 82.5!

On top of that, even in the 80-89 age group, there is a 75% chance of survival.  That means that Covid-19 only killed the 25% of least healthy people.

If you take an AVERAGE 84-year-old person, they only have 22 months left to live according to life insurance actuarial tables.  Go online to any life insurance rate calculator, and punch in 84 as your age, and see what the rate is - the rate is so high, because there such a high probability that you will die within the next few years.  Likewise, if we take supercentenarians [people who are aged 110 or older], there is a 75% chance that they won't make it to the next year.  So a 110-year-old has a 25% chance of living to age 111, and would then subsequently have a 25% chance of making it to 112.

I would say that, given the health status of those dying of Covid-19, that it's more likely that the people dying were in their last year of life, had Covid-19 not existed.  But even an extreme mathematical estimate is that probably 85% of them were somewhere in the last five years of their life.

I think of it this way:

Say there was a virus that killed people who were on average 100 years of age, with 10 separate underlying health conditions.  Should the average person be afraid of such a virus?  HELL NO.

But that's what they did to make everyone afraid of this virus - they took a virus that poses virtually no threat to anyone who isn't either [1] severely elderly, [2] has multiple underlying health conditions, is [3] immunocompromised, or [4] is extremely obese or otherwise unhealthy, and made us all afraid on the basis of complete mathematical manipulation combined with people's natural fear of death!

What a complete fraud!

It's wretched that people's fear has been made to make people afraid of their fellow man and woman, as governments worldwide have used this to clamp down on freedoms.  Very depressing.

But oh well - some people want to be afraid, I guess.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Dave D on June 16, 2021, 09:00:43 PM
Yep - it's amazing how people's complete understanding of what you just posted has driven this fraud.

[1] According to the CDC, 94% of people dying of Covid-19 had 2-3 separate health conditions [per 10 people dying of Covid-19, they collectively had 26 separate health conditions].  This means that out of the 600,000 people who died, a staggering 564,000 had 2-3 separate underlying health conditions!  That means that only 36,000 people died exclusively of Covid-19!

[2] Among the people who "died of Covid-19" [according to the disingenuous, misleading, and I would say outright FRAUDULENT reporting of such deaths, as explained in my previous point], the average age of a death in the USA is 84!  In Canada, that figure is 82.5!

On top of that, even in the 80-89 age group, there is a 75% chance of survival.  That means that Covid-19 only killed the 25% of least healthy people.

If you take an AVERAGE 84-year-old person, they only have 22 months left to live according to life insurance actuarial tables.  Go online to any life insurance rate calculator, and punch in 84 as your age, and see what the rate is - the rate is so high, because there such a high probability that you will die within the next few years.  Likewise, if we take supercentenarians [people who are aged 110 or older], there is a 75% chance that they won't make it to the next year.  So a 110-year-old has a 25% chance of living to age 111, and would then subsequently have a 25% chance of making it to 112.

I would say that, given the health status of those dying of Covid-19, that it's more likely that the people dying were in their last year of life, had Covid-19 not existed.  But even an extreme mathematical estimate is that probably 85% of them were somewhere in the last five years of their life.

I think of it this way:

Say there was a virus that killed people who were on average 100 years of age, with 10 separate underlying health conditions.  Should the average person be afraid of such a virus?  HELL NO.

But that's what they did to make everyone afraid of this virus - they took a virus that poses virtually no threat to anyone who isn't either [1] severely elderly, [2] has multiple underlying health conditions, is [3] immunocompromised, or [4] is extremely obese or otherwise unhealthy, and made us all afraid on the basis of complete mathematical manipulation combined with people's natural fear of death!

What a complete fraud!

It's wretched that people's fear has been made to make people afraid of their fellow man and woman, as governments worldwide have used this to clamp down on freedoms.  Very depressing.

But oh well - some people want to be afraid, I guess.

I’ve been spending a lot of time communicating face to face with my computer and phone screens while wearing no mask. Now I’m feeling funny.

 Has it been proven we can’t catch covid via intranet communications?

I’m nervous.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: G_Thang on June 17, 2021, 01:03:21 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/new-passengers-first-fully-vaccinated-north-american-cruise-test-positive-covid-19/


Passengers aboard the first 100% vaccinated North American cruise tested positive for Covid-19.
Two passengers on the Celebrity Millennium, which is operated by Royal Caribbean, tested positive for Covid-19 during end-of-cruise testing which is conducted 72 hours before returning to the US.

I got ridiculed repeatedly for stating at the beginning of the fucboi plague that the fucboi vaccines were only for the elderly and secondary concerns.  these fucboi vaccines are no better than a natural immune response by a healthy person, so why the fucboi are kids getting these fucboi vaccines when they have the most prolific natural immune response on the face of this earth.  covid is real but there is a lot of fucboi science going on here.  they know the t-cell threshold per ml of blood which determines if you need the fucboi vaccine or not, they have always known!

And that dumb golfer would have still tested positive with the vaccine. 
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: G_Thang on June 17, 2021, 01:12:06 AM
A “vaccine” for a man made virus, hmmm.

It's not man-made, gone through normal sequence spacing (variant fear-mongering bullshit they keep putting out in the media) in the lab.  There are genetic alterations that chinks made during the maturation process.  Too many generations have passed for them to locate the makers similar to how they determined the viral generation which made its' way from Germany - NY. 
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Matt on June 17, 2021, 03:27:41 AM
I’ve been spending a lot of time communicating face to face with my computer and phone screens while wearing no mask. Now I’m feeling funny.

 Has it been proven we can’t catch covid via intranet communications?

I’m nervous.

LMAO...things got so moronic last year with the recommendations to double-mask or whatever, that it wouldn't surprise me if someone had said that posting online without a mask is more likely to lead to getting Covid-19 through some behavioural correlation.  ;D  Things just got so completely insane for a while there.

Dave, do you remember that news article that said that Chinese officials were requesting anal swabs from American ambassadors or politicians or something?  It's like this is just one giant...well...SHIT TEST, and they were just throwing as much out there as we would tolerate that.  It sort of seemed that way to me to start, and it definitely became that way midway through.

I get the impression things are getting a bit saner, but I won't believe we will have freedom again until I see it.

Speaking of Dave's - one of my favourite YouTubers speaks on this topic below: Irish Dave Cullen!  Banned from YouTube:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/FFCb7pFcISVy
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 17, 2021, 01:34:46 PM
I will make this simple and easy to understand for all.

1. A high percentage of people that died of covid had other ailments that contributed to their death.

2. If someone was in a car accident and had covid, it was considered a covid death. I someone had a heart attack and tested positive for covid, it was considered a covid death.

3. If you don't have these ailments, your risk of a dying from Covid is low ( depending on age of course) and the 600,000+ deaths being reported as covid deaths is misleading.

My point is, for younger, healthy people, covid is not a serious health concern and no need to be vaccinated.

You are entitled to an opinion. How valid it is depends on your credentials. If COVID never happened, would these folks you mention have died when they did? 

As far as deaths related to car accidents being wrongly attributed to COVID, this is possible, but highly unlikely and certainly not likely enough to affect COVID stats.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/covid-deaths-car-crash-comorbidities-coronavirus-death-total-counts-john-hopkins-study/65-e3842ed2-f753-4a15-8b97-c2ae75c2b2ce
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 17, 2021, 01:41:22 PM
You are entitled to an opinion. How valid it is depends on your credentials. If COVID never happened, would these folks you mention have died when they did? 

As far as deaths related to car accidents being wrongly attributed to COVID, this is possible, but highly unlikely and certainly not likely enough to affect COVID stats.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/covid-deaths-car-crash-comorbidities-coronavirus-death-total-counts-john-hopkins-study/65-e3842ed2-f753-4a15-8b97-c2ae75c2b2ce

The track record, to date , of the so-called experts has been very poor. For example, a large majority of the hospitalizations have been among obese people. Yet the prescription for these people was to remain in their homes where they had nothing to do but eat, and where they got no exercise. And now it turns out that outdoor transmissions were essentially a non-issue.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 17, 2021, 01:44:41 PM
You are entitled to an opinion. How valid it is depends on your credentials. If COVID never happened, would these folks you mention have died when they did? 

As far as deaths related to car accidents being wrongly attributed to COVID, this is possible, but highly unlikely and certainly not likely enough to affect COVID stats.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/covid-deaths-car-crash-comorbidities-coronavirus-death-total-counts-john-hopkins-study/65-e3842ed2-f753-4a15-8b97-c2ae75c2b2ce

What I take away from this is:

If you are under 65 and are in reasonably good health, covid is not likely kill you and you'll most likely have symptoms similar to the common cold.

This is why I feel the push to vaccinate is unreasonable for the group I mentioned above. Libby's and MSM are definitely overstaying the risks if covid.

I do see value in getting vaccinated if you're in the true high risk group.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 17, 2021, 01:49:21 PM
The track record, to date , of the so-called experts has been very poor. For example, a large majority of the hospitalizations have been among obese people. Yet the prescription for these people was to remain in their homes where they had nothing to do but eat, and where they got no exercise. And now it turns out that outdoor transmissions were essentially a non-issue.

Prescription or restriction as recomended?

That's pretty rich....blaming people's obesity on COVID restrictions.

For Immediate Release: October 26, 1999
Contact: CDC Media Relations (404) 639-3286

Obesity epidemic increases dramatically in the United States:
CDC director calls for national prevention effort

https://www.cdc.gov/media/pressrel/r991026.htm#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20findings%2C%20the,to%2017.9%20percent%20in%201998.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Megalodon on June 17, 2021, 02:01:37 PM
I’ve been spending a lot of time communicating face to face with my computer and phone screens while wearing no mask. Now I’m feeling funny.

 Has it been proven we can’t catch covid via intranet communications?

I’m nervous.

There haven't been any studies so there's no way of knowing.

In other news:

(https://i.postimg.cc/NMyg4MVf/E3-Pwm-Us-WEAEA2-y.jpg)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Matt on June 17, 2021, 06:09:59 PM
You are entitled to an opinion. How valid it is depends on your credentials. If COVID never happened, would these folks you mention have died when they did? 

As far as deaths related to car accidents being wrongly attributed to COVID, this is possible, but highly unlikely and certainly not likely enough to affect COVID stats.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/covid-deaths-car-crash-comorbidities-coronavirus-death-total-counts-john-hopkins-study/65-e3842ed2-f753-4a15-8b97-c2ae75c2b2ce

It saddens me to read your post.  Your lack of understanding of actuarial statistics is so poor, that I don't think there is anything I can do or say to make you understand anything I say about it - which is not my opinion, but is objectively factual and independently verifiable.

In any event, to answer your question, with the average age of a Covid-19 death in the USA being 84 years old, and with 94% of people dying having 2-3 separate underlying health conditions, in all probability [according to actuarial tables - the same ones used to set life insurance rates based on the probable number of years people have left to live], these people were likely in the last year of their lives.

Even without underlying conditions, the average person who is 84 only has an average of around 22 months left to live.  Add underlying conditions to the equation, and the projected lifespan gets even shorter.

So yes, Mr. Rat Terrier Lover [ ;D], most likely, these people would have died very soon, even if there was no Covid-19, and the fact that the global population INCREASED by the usual rate of 80 million per year, is evidence of that.

How else do you explain the low number of excess deaths?

Where are the bodies, Prime?  Where are the obituaries saying people are dying of Covid-19?  Where are all the celebrity deaths of Covid-19?  Where are the hearses driving by?

Don't you think that during a lethal pandemic, you would...well...NOTICE IT?

...

Don't trust me - trust your own eyes.  Does anything you notice feel like a pandemic to you, other than the forced masking, to keep giving people a visual reminder of a pandemic, when all available evidence shows very few people are dying.

Out of curiosity, Prime - how many people do you know who have had Covid-19?  How many died of it?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 17, 2021, 07:30:01 PM
It saddens me to read your post.  Your lack of understanding of actuarial statistics is so poor, that I don't think there is anything I can do or say to make you understand anything I say about it - which is not my opinion, but is objectively factual and independently verifiable.

In any event, to answer your question, with the average age of a Covid-19 death in the USA being 84 years old, and with 94% of people dying having 2-3 separate underlying health conditions, in all probability [according to actuarial tables - the same ones used to set life insurance rates based on the probable number of years people have left to live], these people were likely in the last year of their lives.

Even without underlying conditions, the average person who is 84 only has an average of around 22 months left to live.  Add underlying conditions to the equation, and the projected lifespan gets even shorter.


So yes, Mr. Rat Terrier Lover [ ;D], most likely, these people would have died very soon, even if there was no Covid-19, and the fact that the global population INCREASED by the usual rate of 80 million per year, is evidence of that.

How else do you explain the low number of excess deaths?

Where are the bodies, Prime?  Where are the obituaries saying people are dying of Covid-19?  Where are all the celebrity deaths of Covid-19?  Where are the hearses driving by?

Don't you think that during a lethal pandemic, you would...well...NOTICE IT?

...

Don't trust me - trust your own eyes.  Does anything you notice feel like a pandemic to you, other than the forced masking, to keep giving people a visual reminder of a pandemic, when all available evidence shows very few people are dying.

Out of curiosity, Prime - how many people do you know who have had Covid-19?  How many died of it?

Read what I wrote, which was, they died when they did. Meaning at that moment in time....not sometime within a year.


I personally know 2 people who died from COVID. One was a senior with an underlying respiratory condition and the other was a 46 year old school teacher who was otherwise in good health and who had not been vaccinated because she had a fear of needles.

To the best of my knowledge, I do not personally know anyone who has had COVID and recovered. Should I start calling my friends and asking them if they have had it?

How old is your mom now? Is old enough that she's more likely to get seriously sick or even die should she contract COVID?

One would hope the bodies have been either cremated or buried depending on one's wishes. Otherwise 600,000 bodies would really start to stink the place up.

Each day the Oregonian publishes the number of new COVID cases and the number of deaths from the previous day in Oregon.

Coronavirus in Oregon: 7 deaths, 247 cases as downtrend officially ends
Updated Jun 17, 5:08 PM; Posted Jun 16, 5:59 PM
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Matt on June 17, 2021, 08:29:01 PM
Read what I wrote, which was, they died when they did. Meaning at that moment in time....not sometime within a year.


I personally know 2 people who died from COVID. One was a senior with an underlying respiratory condition and the other was a 46 year old school teacher who was otherwise in good health and who had not been vaccinated because she had a fear of needles.

To the best of my knowledge, I do not personally know anyone who has had COVID and recovered. Should I start calling my friends and asking them if they have had it?

How old is your mom now? Is old enough that she's more likely to get seriously sick or even die should she contract COVID?

One would hope the bodies have been either cremated or buried depending on one's wishes. Otherwise 600,000 bodies would really start to stink the place up.

Each day the Oregonian publishes the number of new COVID cases and the number of deaths from the previous day in Oregon.

Coronavirus in Oregon: 7 deaths, 247 cases as downtrend officially ends
Updated Jun 17, 5:08 PM; Posted Jun 16, 5:59 PM

So to be clear, 16+ months into a pandemic, you know a STAGGERING two people who died?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Dave D on June 17, 2021, 08:36:58 PM
Read what I wrote, which was, they died when they did. Meaning at that moment in time....not sometime within a year.


I personally know 2 people who died from COVID. One was a senior with an underlying respiratory condition and the other was a 46 year old school teacher who was otherwise in good health and who had not been vaccinated because she had a fear of needles.

To the best of my knowledge, I do not personally know anyone who has had COVID and recovered. Should I start calling my friends and asking them if they have had it?

How old is your mom now? Is old enough that she's more likely to get seriously sick or even die should she contract COVID?

One would hope the bodies have been either cremated or buried depending on one's wishes. Otherwise 600,000 bodies would really start to stink the place up.

Each day the Oregonian publishes the number of new COVID cases and the number of deaths from the previous day in Oregon.

Coronavirus in Oregon: 7 deaths, 247 cases as downtrend officially ends
Updated Jun 17, 5:08 PM; Posted Jun 16, 5:59 PM

Prime thanks for bringing this to our attention.

 I don’t mean to be insensitive but we will need the names and dates of death for verification purposes. The Getbig record keepers, it most likely include the impartial Grape Ape as he over sees the official hall of records, will review the facts and determine the true cause of death.


Thank you!
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Walter Sobchak on June 17, 2021, 08:38:43 PM
It saddens me to read your post.  Your lack of understanding of actuarial statistics is so poor, that I don't think there is anything I can do or say to make you understand anything I say about it - which is not my opinion, but is objectively factual and independently verifiable.

In any event, to answer your question, with the average age of a Covid-19 death in the USA being 84 years old, and with 94% of people dying having 2-3 separate underlying health conditions, in all probability [according to actuarial tables - the same ones used to set life insurance rates based on the probable number of years people have left to live], these people were likely in the last year of their lives.

Even without underlying conditions, the average person who is 84 only has an average of around 22 months left to live.  Add underlying conditions to the equation, and the projected lifespan gets even shorter.

So yes, Mr. Rat Terrier Lover [ ;D], most likely, these people would have died very soon, even if there was no Covid-19, and the fact that the global population INCREASED by the usual rate of 80 million per year, is evidence of that.

How else do you explain the low number of excess deaths?

Where are the bodies, Prime?  Where are the obituaries saying people are dying of Covid-19?  Where are all the celebrity deaths of Covid-19?  Where are the hearses driving by?

Don't you think that during a lethal pandemic, you would...well...NOTICE IT?

...

Don't trust me - trust your own eyes.  Does anything you notice feel like a pandemic to you, other than the forced masking, to keep giving people a visual reminder of a pandemic, when all available evidence shows very few people are dying.

Out of curiosity, Prime - how many people do you know who have had Covid-19?  How many died of it?

HAHAHAHA!!!!

MATT C CALLING THE SOGGY OLD PEDO QUEER STUPID!

THE CUT & PASTE PEDO GETS SLAPPED AROUND BY SPASTIC MATTY!

POST THE MELTING OLD PHAGGOT PHOTO SO WE CAN ALL LAUGH AND RIDICULE.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Matt on June 17, 2021, 08:48:18 PM
HAHAHAHA!!!!

MATT C CALLING THE SOGGY OLD PEDO QUEER STUPID!

THE CUT & PASTE PEDO GETS SLAPPED AROUND BY SPASTIC MATTY!

POST THE MELTING OLD PHAGGOT PHOTO SO WE CAN ALL LAUGH AND RIDICULE.

His long division is not good.  :-\

I told my friend "94.5% of Canadians who died were 60 years old or older."

He said "I didn't realize you were a virologist." LOL.

Because dividing two numbers on a calculator requires being a virologist?  ???

Liberals annoy me. Too bad Canada is infested with them. Prime would feel right at home here.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Walter Sobchak on June 17, 2021, 09:16:28 PM
His long division is not good.  :-\

I told my friend "94.5% of Canadians who died were 60 years old or older."

He said "I didn't realize you were a virologist." LOL.

Because dividing two numbers on a calculator requires being a virologist?  ???

Liberals annoy me. Too bad Canada is infested with them. Prime would feel right at home here.

I am pissing my pants laughing.

That senile old cock-sukker fancies himself an expert on everything, yet all he does is Google a bunch of shit that he doesn’t even understand or he tries to use in entirely the wrong context.

I swear to God the dumb fucker has no life and just comes here to argue and get abused.

He wouldn’t know the statistics behind the pandemic if they were fed to him through a gloryhole.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: el numero uno on June 17, 2021, 09:25:06 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/new-passengers-first-fully-vaccinated-north-american-cruise-test-positive-covid-19/


Passengers aboard the first 100% vaccinated North American cruise tested positive for Covid-19.
Two passengers on the Celebrity Millennium, which is operated by Royal Caribbean, tested positive for Covid-19 during end-of-cruise testing which is conducted 72 hours before returning to the US.

According to this article*, 200 people in the cruise were tested, and 2 of them tested positive.

According to worldometers.info**, the rate of cases per 1M people in the US is 103k, which translates to roughly 1 in 10.

I know this was not a random sample, but with no other info (too lazy to look it up) one would infer that among the 200 tested individuals, you could expect 20 cases. If the vaccines are 90% effective, you'd expect exactly 2 people to still get infected with covid.

In other words, the article is an indicator that vaccines work, but your retarded ass could not notice it. :-\ If Math is your strong point I don't wanna know what your weaknesses are lmao.


*https://www.travelweekly.com/Cruise-Travel/Positive-Covid-test-on-Celebrity-Millennium

**https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: deadz on June 18, 2021, 12:21:48 PM
I am pissing my pants laughing.

That senile old cock-sukker fancies himself an expert on everything, yet all he does is Google a bunch of shit that he doesn’t even understand or he tries to use in entirely the wrong context.

I swear to God the dumb fucker has no life and just comes here to argue and get abused.

He wouldn’t know the statistics behind the pandemic if they were fed to him through a gloryhole.
The old fuck is petrified of death. Biggest pussy on Getbig!
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Fortress on June 18, 2021, 12:30:55 PM
(Sogster) wouldn’t know the statistics behind the pandemic if they were fed to him through a gloryhole.

Now this is some quality material right here.  :D
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 18, 2021, 12:39:41 PM
So to be clear, 16+ months into a pandemic, you know a STAGGERING two people who died?

What can I say? I know incredibly healthy people who wear masks and social distance in public and they got vaccinated as soon as it was available. The Oregonian reports on the number of new cases and deaths daily. The age of those who died and the county they lived in are shown, but not their names. I'm sure if they were and I had a morbid curiosity, I see some people I know.

It was reported in today's paper that Oregon is on schedule to lift most restrictions on June 27th.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 18, 2021, 12:55:52 PM
The old fuck is petrified of death. Biggest pussy on Getbig!

 ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: King Shizzo on June 18, 2021, 02:39:47 PM
The old fuck is petrified of death. Biggest pussy on Getbig!
Wes is just petrified.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Henda on June 18, 2021, 02:46:18 PM
One of my mates is one of those proud vaccine wankers who thinks everyone should be made to have it just because he’s a fucking fat sack of shit with loads of obesity and alcohol related ailments that mean hes “high risk”, fucking fat useless cunt
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: deadz on June 18, 2021, 02:51:35 PM
One of my mates is one of those proud vaccine wankers who thinks everyone should be made to have it just because he’s a fucking fat sack of shit with loads of obesity and alcohol related ailments that mean hes “high risk”, fucking fat useless cunt
World is full of fat fucks with diseased minds that think like your pos friend!
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Henda on June 18, 2021, 02:54:30 PM
World is full of fat fucks with diseased minds that think like your pos friend!

It’s fucking annoying the way they think mate, it’s like “I’ve spent my whole life treating my body like absolute shit being a lazy and greedy pig but everyone else should get vaccinated to protect me” fuck that shit the fucking vile worthless cunts
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: deadz on June 18, 2021, 03:04:31 PM
It’s fucking annoying the way they think mate, it’s like “I’ve spent my whole life treating my body like absolute shit being a lazy and greedy pig but everyone else should get vaccinated to protect me” fuck that shit the fucking vile worthless cunts
My inlaws are like your c unt friend unfortunately.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 18, 2021, 03:07:41 PM
Most of the hospitalizations have been among obese people. So, their lack of discipline and disgusting behavior has strained the health system and put the rest of us at risk.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 19, 2021, 11:53:17 AM
Most of the hospitalizations have been among obese people. So, their lack of discipline and disgusting behavior has strained the health system and put the rest of us at risk.
Another reason to hate fat people.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: King Shizzo on June 19, 2021, 12:00:58 PM
Another reason to hate fat people.
What if they still have a hint of abdominals?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 19, 2021, 12:03:13 PM
What if they still have a hint of abdominals?
That could be an exception.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Flexacon on June 19, 2021, 12:10:16 PM
What if they still have a hint of abdominals?

Sorry bro, I say this with love (no homo) as I'm generally pro shizzo, but what you call hint of abdominals is really the crease left behind by your fat folds.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: King Shizzo on June 19, 2021, 12:35:38 PM
Sorry bro, I say this with love (no homo) as I'm generally pro shizzo, but what you call hint of abdominals is really the crease left behind by your fat folds.
I'm clearly in my off-season. Think of Lee Priest with a bucket of KFC off-season. I'm waiting for my muscle memory/maturity to kick in. Dorian's black and white photos weren't built overnight. I'm in it for the long haul. Or was it a U-Haul?

I'm confused.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Fortress on June 19, 2021, 12:47:34 PM
What you call (a) hint of abdominals is really the crease left behind by … fat folds.

Brutal

 ;D
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Fortress on June 19, 2021, 12:49:05 PM
One of my mates is one of those proud vaccine wankers who thinks everyone should be made to have it just because he’s a fucking fat sack of shit with loads of obesity and alcohol related ailments that mean hes “high risk”, fucking fat useless cunt

Useless, horrific kcuntz.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 20, 2021, 12:43:00 PM
Seems like the hard push of this scam is winding down. Probably will ramp up again in the fall for booster shots.


Governor Cuomo Announces Mass Vaccination Sites to Begin Downscaling


https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-mass-vaccination-sites-begin-downscaling
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 20, 2021, 01:36:42 PM
Seems like the hard push of this scam is winding down. Probably will ramp up again in the fall for booster shots.


Governor Cuomo Announces Mass Vaccination Sites to Begin Downscaling


https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-mass-vaccination-sites-begin-downscaling

Most of the people wanting to get vaccinated have been by now. That is why vaccinations are winding down.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 20, 2021, 04:12:29 PM
Most of the people wanting to get vaccinated have been by now. That is why vaccinations are winding down.

Weeding out the retardz first...
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 20, 2021, 04:22:10 PM
Were these two passengers together or were they separate? It would seem to me if it was a couple that both came down with it, that it would be highly unlikely. Think they forged their vaccine cards?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 20, 2021, 08:41:16 PM
Weeding out the retardz first...

Time will tell. Better hope you are right.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: AbrahamG on June 20, 2021, 09:36:59 PM
Time will tell. Better hope you are right.

A friend from worked died today. Hospitalized 6 weeks ago with covid. Pneumonia, coma, trach...Now gone. He turned 60 today. Huge anti masker, anti vaxxer, no social distancing, etc. Wonder if he'd do anything different during the last year?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 20, 2021, 10:13:22 PM
A friend from worked died today. Hospitalized 6 weeks ago with covid. Pneumonia, coma, trach...Now gone. He turned 60 today. Huge anti masker, anti vaxxer, no social distancing, etc. Wonder if he'd do anything different during the last year?
Sorry to hear that.

If your friend didn't have any underlying conditions or co-morbidities then his death was an anomaly.

Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: honest on June 20, 2021, 10:58:58 PM
Sorry to hear that.

Did your friend didn't have any underlying conditions or co-morbidities then his death was an anomaly.

Underlying issues ? only stupidity and a mild case of conspiracy theorist syndrome that ultimately got him killed.   ;D
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Matt on June 21, 2021, 12:43:36 AM
One of my mates is one of those proud vaccine wankers who thinks everyone should be made to have it just because he’s a fucking fat sack of shit with loads of obesity and alcohol related ailments that mean hes “high risk”, fucking fat useless cunt

He sounds like a fat stinking girl that I know.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 21, 2021, 12:53:30 AM
I just don't trust the government anymore.  It's not because I'm a white supremacist, a science denier, or a conspiracy theorist.

I don't trust the government because of their demonstrable incompetence, their willingness to lie, and how they politicize everything now.  Their fault, not mine.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Matt on June 21, 2021, 02:14:15 AM
A friend from worked died today. Hospitalized 6 weeks ago with covid. Pneumonia, coma, trach...Now gone. He turned 60 today. Huge anti masker, anti vaxxer, no social distancing, etc. Wonder if he'd do anything different during the last year?

In Canada, 5.5% of COVID deaths were among people under 60 [94.5% have been aged 60+].  Of that 5.5%, 3.6% were among people aged 50-59.

That means that around 1 in 28 deaths from [or more accurately, WITH] Covid-19 is a person between 50-59.  As he was closer to 60, that number goes up slightly.

If I was in that age group, I would *consider* getting the vaccine...but even then, probably not.

It's sort of on the cusp.

Among the 600K or so Americans who have died of Covid-19, 94% of them had 2-3 comorbidities, on average.

That means that only 36,000 healthy Americans with no underlying conditions have died of Covid-19.  That's just south of 1 in 10,000.

Even among those healthy 36,000 people, the average age was 84.

In fact, if your coworker was healthy and had no other health conditions, I'd hazard a guess that you are actually lying here, Abraham.

If you're not, please accept my apologies.  But if your coworker was healthy, his death was a complete anomaly.

If your friend was overweight or obese, or had other health conditions, he should have taken C19 more seriously.  So his death really depends on all of that information.

PS - I don't mean to call you a liar...but I do need to emphasize how unlikely it is for a 59-year-old healthy man to die of C19 based on all available current data.  But you didn't mention his health status, so I don't want to make that claim.  I just want to say that it is unlikely.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 21, 2021, 02:25:28 AM
A friend from worked died today. Hospitalized 6 weeks ago with covid. Pneumonia, coma, trach...Now gone. He turned 60 today. Huge anti masker, anti vaxxer, no social distancing, etc. Wonder if he'd do anything different during the last year?

He would have gotten it and died o matter what he did. Flaky immune system.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: AbrahamG on June 21, 2021, 08:41:08 AM
Underlying issues ? only stupidity and a mild case of conspiracy theorist syndrome that ultimately got him killed.   ;D

He poked science/common sense/karma in the eye and it poked back harder.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 21, 2021, 09:24:13 AM
He poked science/common sense/karma in the eye and it poked back harder.

Sorry to hear about your friend. Did you know anything about his prior health history? Or the type of treatments that he received from the hospital? I grew up around major hospitals. The treatments kill a lot more people than they want you to believe. This is especially true for cancer. “He couldn’t tolerate the treatment,” is  a way to blame the patient for the medical establishments’ own shortcomings when it comes to treatment of disease.



Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 21, 2021, 01:15:33 PM
He poked science/common sense/karma in the eye and it poked back harder.

Regardless, he's an anomaly. His supposed reaction and death is not likely for most healthy people that get Covid.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 21, 2021, 01:35:46 PM
Regardless, he's an anomaly. His supposed reaction and death is not likely for most healthy people that get Covid.

He’s going to believe what he wants to believe but we have the data. For that age group 1% (In NYC, 46/4100) had no known pre-existing conditions.

Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: TheGrinch on June 21, 2021, 04:22:27 PM
wooooooooooooooshhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhh


Mask mandate and use efficacy in state-level COVID-19 containment


https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.18.21257385v1
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 22, 2021, 04:27:53 AM
wooooooooooooooshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Mask mandate and use efficacy in state-level COVID-19 containment


https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.18.21257385v1

But, but, anti-masker!!  But, but, anti-vaxxer!!  But, but Trump!!   ::)

Retards everywhere.
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Background Containment of the COVID-19 pandemic requires evidence-based strategies to reduce transmission. Because COVID-19 can spread via respired droplets, many states have mandated mask use in public settings. Randomized control trials have not clearly demonstrated mask efficacy against respiratory viruses, and observational studies conflict on whether mask use predicts lower infection rates. We hypothesized that statewide mask mandates and mask use are associated with lower COVID-19 case growth rates in the United States.

Methods We calculated total COVID-19 case growth and mask use for the continental United States with data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation. We estimated post-mask mandate case growth in non-mandate states using median issuance dates of neighboring states with mandates.

Results Case growth was not significantly different between mandate and non-mandate states at low or high transmission rates, and surges were equivocal. Mask use predicted lower case growth at low, but not high transmission rates. Growth rates were comparable between states in the first and last mask use quintiles adjusted for normalized total cases early in the pandemic and unadjusted after peak Fall-Winter infections. Mask use did not predict Summer 2020 case growth for non-Northeast states or Fall-Winter 2020 growth for all continental states.

Conclusions Mask mandates and use are not associated with slower state-level COVID-19 spread during COVID-19 growth surges. Containment requires future research and implementation of existing efficacious strategies.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 22, 2021, 05:48:11 AM
Has there been anything that we’ve been told by the so-called experts that has been proven correct? Seems to me that everything has been wrong: Lockdowns, masks, outdoor transmission percentages, fatality rates…
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: TheGrinch on June 22, 2021, 09:09:54 AM
Has there been anything that we’ve been told by the so-called experts that has been proven correct? Seems to me that everything has been wrong: Lockdowns, masks, outdoor transmission percentages, fatality rates…Election Results

100% correct

fixed for accuracy :-)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 22, 2021, 11:42:40 AM
Two people in Oregon died of COVID yesterday. One was 59 with no underlying conditions and the other person was 49 with contributing conditions. What's going on here Matt? You said only old folks who are like over 90 are dying of COVID and those people also have underlying health issues. Has COVID morphed into a virus that is now going after younger unmasked and unvaccinated people?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 22, 2021, 02:40:10 PM
Two people in Oregon died of COVID yesterday. One was 59 with no underlying conditions and the other person was 49 with contributing conditions. What's going on here Matt? You said only old folks who are like over 90 are dying of COVID and those people also have underlying health issues. Has COVID morphed into a virus that is now going after younger unmasked and unvaccinated people?

Oregon is a state with 4 million people. You are aware that people died every day there before 2020 right?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 22, 2021, 04:46:42 PM
Two people in Oregon died of COVID yesterday. One was 59 with no underlying conditions and the other person was 49 with contributing conditions. What's going on here Matt? You said only old folks who are like over 90 are dying of COVID and those people also have underlying health issues. Has COVID morphed into a virus that is now going after younger unmasked and unvaccinated people?

These are an anomaly. Simple. Nothing more, but MSM will force a different narrative.

I have a larger risk of dying in a car accident than dying of covid

Should I sell my car?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Dave D on June 22, 2021, 04:54:10 PM
In Canada, 5.5% of COVID deaths were among people under 60 [94.5% have been aged 60+].  Of that 5.5%, 3.6% were among people aged 50-59.

That means that around 1 in 28 deaths from [or more accurately, WITH] Covid-19 is a person between 50-59.  As he was closer to 60, that number goes up slightly.

If I was in that age group, I would *consider* getting the vaccine...but even then, probably not.

It's sort of on the cusp.

Among the 600K or so Americans who have died of Covid-19, 94% of them had 2-3 comorbidities, on average.

That means that only 36,000 healthy Americans with no underlying conditions have died of Covid-19.  That's just south of 1 in 10,000.

Even among those healthy 36,000 people, the average age was 84.

In fact, if your coworker was healthy and had no other health conditions, I'd hazard a guess that you are actually lying here, Abraham.

If you're not, please accept my apologies.  But if your coworker was healthy, his death was a complete anomaly.

If your friend was overweight or obese, or had other health conditions, he should have taken C19 more seriously.  So his death really depends on all of that information.

PS - I don't mean to call you a liar...but I do need to emphasize how unlikely it is for a 59-year-old healthy man to die of C19 based on all available current data.  But you didn't mention his health status, so I don't want to make that claim.  I just want to say that it is unlikely.

Matt can you back up the average of death among the 36000 healthy people being 84. That age seems slightly off.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: honest on June 22, 2021, 10:20:32 PM
Latest numbers out of Britain, draw your own conclusions on vaccination, as Ive said previously i don't give two shites what anyone does as long as they are not imposing their position on me.

Britain is recording more than 10,000 new cases of COVID-19 a day, with about 220 patients admitted to hospital each day, according to the most recent data.
The number of patients in hospital has been relatively steady, at about 1300 each day the past week.
On most days, the number of deaths within 28 days of a positive test is fewer than 10. The number of people dying with flu and pneumonia, at 1163 in the week ending June 11, was more than 10 times the figure of 84 for deaths with COVID-19 in the same period.

Only 0.8 per cent of deaths are COVID-related, even as infections have surged.
Of Britain’s 67 million people, 43 million have had a first dose of COVID-19 vaccination – mostly AstraZeneca, but some people are getting Pfizer or Moderna – and 31.5 million have also had a second dose.
Of the people admitted to hospital in England in the past week, 65 per cent were unvaccinated, and only 10 per cent were more than a fortnight past their second dose.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: wes on June 23, 2021, 12:24:27 AM
Why would I try and countering some of his points when from the outset back in March I've said a lot of the same things myself?

Just because I call most of you retards for not understanding what you're talking about (like in this thread regarding the cruise liner) it doesn't mean I think your general conclusions over the pandemic and vaccinations are wrong. My bad for expecting retards to be able to understand that.

My first post back in Feb 2020 on the subject. Bare in mind I made this post before any lockdowns, before any pandemic models, before the virus was being discussed by mainstream media. I knew the price that would need to be paid to ensure we had the best outcome for the majority.

Matts a fucking potato on the subject as he thinks just because there were almost no cases in his little shithole corner of Canada, then that's what it must be like everywhere else. You can explain that isn't the case a 100 times in a 100 different ways and I've tried, but it doesn't register in his potato brain. His other points for the most, I don't disagree with.
Well said !!!!!!!!   LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: kreator on June 23, 2021, 12:58:06 AM
Two people in Oregon died of COVID yesterday. One was 59 with no underlying conditions and the other person was 49 with contributing conditions. What's going on here Matt? You said only old folks who are like over 90 are dying of COVID and those people also have underlying health issues. Has COVID morphed into a virus that is now going after younger unmasked and unvaccinated people?

How did they establish the reason was C0v1d? How do they do that? How can anyone prove you have c0v1d without extensive lab tests? Don't believe everything you hear on the news. Is it really so hard to turn it off and just enjoy life?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 23, 2021, 12:29:00 PM
These are an anomaly. Simple. Nothing more, but MSM will force a different narrative.

I have a larger risk of dying in a car accident than dying of covid

Should I sell my car?

Yes, you should sell your car. :)

The daily COVID stats published in the Oregon are reported by Oregon counties and the OHA Oregon Health Authority......neither of which is MSM.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 23, 2021, 12:35:17 PM
Yes, you should sell your car. :)

The daily COVID stats published in the Oregon are reported by Oregon counties and the OHA Oregon Health Authority......neither of which is MSM.

Everything in OR is libturded, so believe none of it.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: nzgs on June 23, 2021, 12:41:47 PM
Latest numbers out of Britain, draw your own conclusions on vaccination, as Ive said previously i don't give two shites what anyone does as long as they are not imposing their position on me.

Britain is recording more than 10,000 new cases of COVID-19 a day, with about 220 patients admitted to hospital each day, according to the most recent data.
The number of patients in hospital has been relatively steady, at about 1300 each day the past week.
On most days, the number of deaths within 28 days of a positive test is fewer than 10. The number of people dying with flu and pneumonia, at 1163 in the week ending June 11, was more than 10 times the figure of 84 for deaths with COVID-19 in the same period.

Only 0.8 per cent of deaths are COVID-related, even as infections have surged.
Of Britain’s 67 million people, 43 million have had a first dose of COVID-19 vaccination – mostly AstraZeneca, but some people are getting Pfizer or Moderna – and 31.5 million have also had a second dose.
Of the people admitted to hospital in England in the past week, 65 per cent were unvaccinated, and only 10 per cent were more than a fortnight past their second dose.

A case is a positive PCR test result. The test is completely meaningless and returns false positives at an arbitrary rate determined by political purposes. Tests are also mandatory for many occupations and for attending many events so there are millions of people who can be potentially used as "cases". They could decide to inflate it to 100,000 cases a day tomorrow if they wanted.

The data they can't fudge is all-cause mortalities, because you can't conjure bodies out of thin air. All-cause mortalities have been stable over the past few years. This suggests covid deaths have largely been redirected from elsewhere most commonly flu deaths, since the narrative is that we had no flu season, despite flu being a comorbidity in 50% of covid deaths.

It takes very little data to completely debunk the mainstream narrative on covid. Believing it requires a suspension of disbelief.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 23, 2021, 12:46:50 PM
Yes, you should sell your car. :)

The daily COVID stats published in the Oregon are reported by Oregon counties and the OHA Oregon Health Authority......neither of which is MSM.

My point was these infections are an anomaly and have been occurring randomly throughout this scamdemic on a VERY infrequent basis.

MSM likes to make these things appear more serious and frequent than necessary.

These reports truly change nothing. Covid is a highly treatable illness for most healthy people.

Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 23, 2021, 12:58:11 PM
Everything in OR is libturded, so believe none of it.

LOL! It might surprise you to learn that although there are more registered Democrats than Republicans in Oregon, the difference is not that great. In 2020 there were 958,448 registered Republicans (40.3%) and 1,340,383 registered Democrats (56.4%). Most of the Democrats reside in Portland and Eugene. More rural areas of the state are mainly Republican. 
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 23, 2021, 01:05:30 PM
LOL! It might surprise you to learn that although there are more registered Democrats than Republicans in Oregon, the difference is not that great. In 2020 there were 958,448 registered Republicans (40.3%) and 1,340,383 registered Democrats (56.4%). Most of the Democrats reside in Portland and Eugene. More rural areas of the state are mainly Republican.


Thanks captain obvious.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 23, 2021, 01:46:40 PM
A case is a positive PCR test result. The test is completely meaningless and returns false positives at an arbitrary rate determined by political purposes. Tests are also mandatory for many occupations and for attending many events so there are millions of people who can be potentially used as "cases". They could decide to inflate it to 100,000 cases a day tomorrow if they wanted.

The data they can't fudge is all-cause mortalities, because you can't conjure bodies out of thin air. All-cause mortalities have been stable over the past few years. This suggests covid deaths have largely been redirected from elsewhere most commonly flu deaths, since the narrative is that we had no flu season, despite flu being a comorbidity in 50% of covid deaths.

It takes very little data to completely debunk the mainstream narrative on covid. Believing it requires a suspension of disbelief.

💪💪💪💪💪
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: ThisisOverload on June 24, 2021, 02:40:08 PM
A friend from worked died today. Hospitalized 6 weeks ago with covid. Pneumonia, coma, trach...Now gone. He turned 60 today. Huge anti masker, anti vaxxer, no social distancing, etc. Wonder if he'd do anything different during the last year?

Crazy.

One of my Dad's good friends is the same, hardcore conservative. None masker, no vaccine either.

76 years old, smokes cigars, drinks, a little fat and had a previous heart surgery.

Him and his wife both got Covid 3 weeks ago and recovered in about 10 days.

The man went to the Hospital for 3 days, but didn't require a vent or anything. Just monitored because he was high risk.

Today they still feel the same way; no mask, no vaccine, etc.

Sorry about your friend, an illness doesn't understand politics unfortunately.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 24, 2021, 02:43:40 PM
Crazy.

One of my Dad's good friends is the same, hardcore conservative. None masker, no vaccine either.

76 years old, smokes cigars, drinks, a little fat and had a previous heart surgery.

Him and his wife both got Covid 3 weeks ago and recovered in about 10 days.

The man went to the Hospital for 3 days, but didn't require a vent or anything. Just monitored because he was high risk.

Today they still feel the same way; no mask, no vaccine, etc.

Sorry about your friend, an illness doesn't understand politics unfortunately.

The good news is they probably developed some immunity to COVID. The bad news is that it is at this time unknown how long it lasts.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: booty on June 25, 2021, 03:23:42 AM
The good news is they probably developed some immunity to COVID. The bad news is that it is at this time unknown how long it lasts.
But it’s still better immunity,  than from a Covid vaccine.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 25, 2021, 03:45:32 AM
But it’s still better immunity,  than from a Covid vaccine.

......just on radio, they gonna build quarantine camps near Brisbane & Perth ....... ???
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: booty on June 25, 2021, 04:38:53 AM
......just on radio, they gonna build quarantine camps near Brisbane & Perth ....... ???
Yes I heard that too. Does that mean that quarantine is here to stay??? Because so far he’s resisted building any quarantine buildings. He has no intention of ever opening this country up. I am actually tired of fortress Australia.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 25, 2021, 05:18:41 AM
I’m sure Prime will find this comforting😂😂😂



Pfizer halts distribution of anti-smoking drug after finding carcinogen | Reuters

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-halts-distribution-anti-smoking-drug-after-finding-carcinogen-2021-06-24/
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Fortress on June 25, 2021, 08:10:43 AM
World’s officially in the shitter.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 25, 2021, 08:58:00 AM
Yes I heard that too. Does that mean that quarantine is here to stay??? Because so far he’s resisted building any quarantine buildings. He has no intention of ever opening this country up. I am actually tired of fortress Australia.

It’s your second winter of Covid over there. We’ve already gone through two here. When the weather warms up cases will fall off a cliff and they’ll credit the vaccines for the drop and open things up.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: AbrahamG on June 25, 2021, 04:14:30 PM
It’s your second winter of Covid over there. We’ve already gone through two here. When the weather warms up cases will fall off a cliff and they’ll credit the vaccines for the drop and open things up.

Last year when the weather warmed up cases didn't really drop off.  This year people are vaccinated, the weather has warmed up and pretty much the only people dying or getting sick are the unvaccinated.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 25, 2021, 04:25:43 PM
Yes I heard that too. Does that mean that quarantine is here to stay??? Because so far he’s resisted building any quarantine buildings. He has no intention of ever opening this country up. I am actually tired of fortress Australia.

Dozens of FIFO (fly in/fly out) mining camps around , almost like 4* hotels !. Why to build Covid resorts !.

Indians would like them  8)

Have you been watching ladies rugby State of Origin last night  :)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: booty on June 25, 2021, 04:38:34 PM
Dozens of FIFO (fly in/fly out) mining camps around , almost like 4* hotels !. Why to build Covid resorts !.

Indians would like them  8)

Have you been watching ladies rugby State of Origin last night  :)
No I watched queen of the south on Netflix last night but this new season is not as good. I am not into it as much as previous ones.
Why do I think he’s going to build when he’s got mining camps available? Probably to stall. If he wanted to build quarantine facilities, he already would have done so.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 25, 2021, 04:41:09 PM
Last year when the weather warmed up cases didn't really drop off.  This year people are vaccinated, the weather has warmed up and pretty much the only people dying or getting sick are the unvaccinated.

Wrong. Cases fell off a cliff last year as they do every year at the end of flu season:

Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: booty on June 25, 2021, 04:45:53 PM
It’s your second winter of Covid over there. We’ve already gone through two here. When the weather warms up cases will fall off a cliff and they’ll credit the vaccines for the drop and open things up.
We don’t have any serious Covid cases here. No deaths this year from Covid. More deaths from the vaccines and that’s okay by our government. It’s ground hog day here. Seasons here don’t make any difference. It’s all the same. I am envious of how the USA is living with this Covid.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 25, 2021, 04:47:08 PM
No I watched queen of the south on Netflix last night but this new season is not as good. I am not into it as much as previous ones.
Why do I think he’s going to build when he’s got mining camps available? Probably to stall. If he wanted to build quarantine facilities, he already would have done so.

Packed rugby stadion  ::) , looks like 'covid' don't affects rugby matches !.

Political BS & nothing else !.

FIFO camps a near airports too , so there is no logics !.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 25, 2021, 04:53:13 PM
We don’t have any serious Covid cases here. No deaths this year from Covid. More deaths from the vaccines and that’s okay by our government. It’s ground hog day here. Seasons here don’t make any difference. It’s all the same. I am envious of how the USA is living with this Covid.

They eat crap, thats why !.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 25, 2021, 04:54:05 PM
But it’s still better immunity,  than from a Covid vaccine.

Define better.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: AbrahamG on June 25, 2021, 05:33:55 PM
Wrong. Cases fell off a cliff last year as they do every year at the end of flu season:

Wrong.  Had as much to do with science and safety protocols as it did with the warm weather.  The spike later in the year had more to do with assholes gathering for holidays and parents relenting and letting their kids do what they want. 
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: booty on June 25, 2021, 05:39:01 PM
Packed rugby stadion  ::) , looks like 'covid' don't affects rugby matches !.

Political BS & nothing else !.

FIFO camps a near airports too , so there is no logics !.
Spot on!
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: AbrahamG on June 25, 2021, 05:40:36 PM
But it’s still better immunity,  than from a Covid vaccine.

No it's not.  The recent statistics back this up.  Even though you have a fetish for being chili dogged and burning coal, I've never pegged you for being retarded. 
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: booty on June 25, 2021, 05:43:13 PM
Define better.
Having natural Covid anti bodies gives much better protection than the vaccine. The vaccine is more dangerous than Covid. In Israel cases are increasing amongst the vaccinated.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: booty on June 25, 2021, 05:48:27 PM
No it's not.  The recent statistics back this up.  Even though you have a fetish for being chili dogged and burning coal, I've never pegged you for being retarded.
They don’t. Look at what’s happening in Israel and the UK. I don’t have any fetishes. It’s you that has. Don’t deflect you sicko stuff back onto me. And the reason why you can’t accept what I am telling you about the vaccines is because you’ve had the vaccine. And I would be pretty scared too. There will be long term sides. You only have to see what’s coming out. Myocarditis being one amongst the young vaccinated.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 25, 2021, 05:53:10 PM
RONA's a scam.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 25, 2021, 06:40:33 PM
They don’t. Look at what’s happening in Israel and the UK. I don’t have any fetishes. It’s you that has. Don’t deflect you sicko stuff back onto me. And the reason why you can’t accept what I am telling you about the vaccines is because you’ve had the vaccine. And I would be pretty scared too. There will be long term sides. You only have to see what’s coming out. Myocarditis being one amongst the young vaccinated.
On the upside in Israel and the U.K., despite the new Delta variant outbreak, both countries' current hospitalization and death rate remain close to zero.

Are you just anti-COVID vaccine or an anti-vaxxer in general?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Fortress on June 25, 2021, 06:58:32 PM
Define better.

Someone who isn’t you.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Fortress on June 25, 2021, 07:00:29 PM
… and parents relenting and letting their kids do what they want.

You mean “kid activities”?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Fortress on June 25, 2021, 07:03:23 PM
They don’t. Look at what’s happening in Israel and the UK. I don’t have any fetishes. It’s you that has. Don’t deflect you sicko stuff back onto me. And the reason why you can’t accept what I am telling you about the vaccines is because you’ve had the vaccine. And I would be pretty scared too. There will be long term sides. You only have to see what’s coming out. Myocarditis being one amongst the young vaccinated.

I’m fully with you on all this, booty.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: honest on June 25, 2021, 07:15:11 PM
I just can't wait for the day they just let it loose and we can all live or die by our own choices whether to vaccinate or not. As long as we dont all stay locked down due to people not wanting to vaccinate, biggest issue i see coming is hospitals will still be over run with those who won't vaccinate, putting many other lives at risk as that situation will still compromise health systems ability to treat people for other less preventable medical situations . Anyway its 2021 and to expect anything different to our divided populations the world over would be naive.

The UK numbers of infected aren't translating into serious disease, hospitalisations or death at this point, they also tell you when you get the vaccine that it doesn't stop you spreading the diseases only protects you against serious disease in most cases. Again exercise your right to do whatever you want lets just get back to normal.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: AbrahamG on June 25, 2021, 07:46:23 PM
They don’t. Look at what’s happening in Israel and the UK. I don’t have any fetishes. It’s you that has. Don’t deflect you sicko stuff back onto me. And the reason why you can’t accept what I am telling you about the vaccines is because you’ve had the vaccine. And I would be pretty scared too. There will be long term sides. You only have to see what’s coming out. Myocarditis being one amongst the young vaccinated.

We just buried an idiot I work with who wasn't vaccinated.  I have no doubt he'd still be with us if he had.  And, you are partially correct.  I am vaccinated fully.  I wake up each day with zero regret.  Not an ounce of fear in my body regarding the vaccine.  You are the one filled with regret.  Don't be.  There is a whole subculture of dudes out there who love to shit on and plow big, fake tits.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: booty on June 25, 2021, 11:27:48 PM
On the upside in Israel and the U.K., despite the new Delta variant outbreak, both countries' current hospitalization and death rate remain close to zero.

Are you just anti-COVID vaccine or an anti-vaxxer in general?
I am not an anti-vaxxer but I am against these Covid vaccines.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: booty on June 25, 2021, 11:44:16 PM
We just buried an idiot I work with who wasn't vaccinated.  I have no doubt he'd still be with us if he had.  And, you are partially correct.  I am vaccinated fully.  I wake up each day with zero regret.  Not an ounce of fear in my body regarding the vaccine.  You are the one filled with regret.  Don't be.  There is a whole subculture of dudes out there who love to shit on and plow big, fake tits.
My body, my choice. I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night if I had the vaccine, knowing what I know about them. The regulators and doctors know that there’s no way to know the long term sides because they test for auto immune diseases and cancers for 3 years in animals prior to giving to humans.  The vaccinated are the animals.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 26, 2021, 12:25:57 AM
My body, my choice. I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night if I had the vaccine, knowing what I know about them. The regulators and doctors know that there’s no way to know the long term sides because they test for auto immune diseases and cancers for 3 years in animals prior to giving to humans.  The vaccinated are the animals.

Nobody should argue that it is your choice what your put into your body including vaccines. I just don't get why you think you have special knowledge about these vaccines much of the rest of the world does not. You may know people who have had negative experiences that influence your thinking, but unless you are an expert in virology and pharmacology, I rather doubt you know more than the rest of us do.

One thing you are absolutely correct about is the speed at which these vaccines have been approved for use against COVID as compared to other medications for other ailments and diseases. No doubt there is a huge gamble involved. If people who have been vaccinated start dropping off like flies, the lawsuits will put these manufacturers out of business.

With everything in life there are trade offs. If someone is confident they are healthy enough to survive COVID and they fear the unknown long-term effects of the vaccine greatly then they will probably make the decision you have. It's all a matter of what you fear more. Of course other issue might contribute to one's decision about the vaccine. Such as, if you need to travel for work and travel is restricted for folks not vaccinated, then they would have to choose between their fears and their livelihood. Or if like me, half your family lives in a different country and either your country or theirs restricts travel based on being vaccinated, some like me would rather be able to visit family than worry about unknown side effects from vaccinations. 
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: booty on June 26, 2021, 12:52:00 AM
Nobody should argue that it is your choice what your put into your body including vaccines. I just don't get why you think you have special knowledge about these vaccines much of the rest of the world does not. You may know people who have had negative experiences that influence your thinking, but unless you are an expert in virology and pharmacology, I rather doubt you know more than the rest of us do.

One thing you are absolutely correct about is the speed at which these vaccines have been approved for use against COVID as compared to other medications for other ailments and diseases. No doubt there is a huge gamble involved. If people who have been vaccinated start dropping off like flies, the lawsuits will put these manufacturers out of business.

With everything in life there are trade offs. If someone is confident they are healthy enough to survive COVID and they fear the unknown long-term effects of the vaccine greatly then they will probably make the decision you have. It's all a matter of what you fear more. Of course other issue might contribute to one's decision about the vaccine. Such as, if you need to travel for work and travel is restricted for folks not vaccinated, then they would have to choose between their fears and their livelihood. Or if like me, half your family lives in a different country and either your country or theirs restricts travel based on being vaccinated, some like me would rather be able to visit family than worry about unknown side effects from vaccinations.
Prime, there won’t be any lawsuits because the manufacturers have been given full indemnity. And when Australians here take a Covid vaccine, they sign a waiver to say they know the risks and the government here is not held accountable. I dare say it’s the same or similar world wide. I know that in the USA they are wanting vaccine passports to travel. Here in Australia, getting vaccinated offers no difference as even fully vaccinated you can’t travel and must endure lockdowns etc. So that means that a fully vaccinated person who wishes to enter Australia, must still go into quarantine for 14 days at your own expense…. Same as an unvaccinated. The reason for this is because you can still transmit the virus.
I am not a virologist etc… I am an average person. But seeing what’s happening in regards to blood clots, myocarditis, strange heavy periods etc and then hearing from the inventor of the MRNA vaccine, that the spike protein breaks off and travels through the blood after 4 hours of being injected into the deltoid is enough to know that these vaccines are going to cause more harm down the line.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Stutheobald on June 26, 2021, 01:23:18 AM
Nobody should argue that it is your choice what your put into your body including vaccines. I just don't get why you think you have special knowledge about these vaccines much of the rest of the world does not. You may know people who have had negative experiences that influence your thinking, but unless you are an expert in virology and pharmacology, I rather doubt you know more than the rest of us do.

One thing you are absolutely correct about is the speed at which these vaccines have been approved for use against COVID as compared to other medications for other ailments and diseases. No doubt there is a huge gamble involved. If people who have been vaccinated start dropping off like flies, the lawsuits will put these manufacturers out of business.

With everything in life there are trade offs. If someone is confident they are healthy enough to survive COVID and they fear the unknown long-term effects of the vaccine greatly then they will probably make the decision you have. It's all a matter of what you fear more. Of course other issue might contribute to one's decision about the vaccine. Such as, if you need to travel for work and travel is restricted for folks not vaccinated, then they would have to choose between their fears and their livelihood. Or if like me, half your family lives in a different country and either your country or theirs restricts travel based on being vaccinated, some like me would rather be able to visit family than worry about unknown side effects from vaccinations.

The reason that vaccines normally take so long to get to market isn't the testing for long term effects.  The phase 1-3 tests were done in less than a year as opposed to up to 17 years on a normal vaccine development, and they started to develop the factories and shipping aspects at the same time they started the drug development primarily because they threw money at it rather than keeping costs to a minimum to ensure maximum profitability.   This simultaneous approach reducing the time to develop significantly.  This is informative and talks about the desire to have speed to help
this is also good to explain the differences in development time https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines/timeline
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Rascal full on June 26, 2021, 01:32:10 AM
Prime, there won’t be any lawsuits because the manufacturers have been given full indemnity. And when Australians here take a Covid vaccine, they sign a waiver to say they know the risks and the government here is not held accountable. I dare say it’s the same or similar world wide. I know that in the USA they are wanting vaccine passports to travel. Here in Australia, getting vaccinated offers no difference as even fully vaccinated you can’t travel and must endure lockdowns etc. So that means that a fully vaccinated person who wishes to enter Australia, must still go into quarantine for 14 days at your own expense…. Same as an unvaccinated. The reason for this is because you can still transmit the virus.
I am not a virologist etc… I am an average person. But seeing what’s happening in regards to blood clots, myocarditis, strange heavy periods etc and then hearing from the inventor of the MRNA vaccine, that the spike protein breaks off and travels through the blood after 4 hours of being injected into the deltoid is enough to know that these vaccines are going to cause more harm down the line.

Good post, the manufacturers can't be sued for any averse effects so puts them in a win win position.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 26, 2021, 08:10:40 AM
Apparently, Biden thinks the typical Latino is an illegal alien. So funny to see the main stream media have to defend this clown.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-criticized-woke-term-latinx-covid-vaccinations

"It's awful hard as well to get Latinx vaccinated," Biden said in his speech. "Why? They're worried they'll be vaccinated and deported."



The dirty little secret is that the biggest anti-VAXers are blacks and Hispanics. They’re also the groups that have allegedly been hit hardest by Covid. Yet they’re not running to get their jabs. Wonder why.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 26, 2021, 08:37:33 AM
Here’s Joey admitting the US conducts medical experiments on its citizens:



https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jun/25/biden-offers-theories-minority-vaccination-rates-r/

“There’s a reason why it’s been harder to get African-Americans initially to get vaccinated, because they used to be experimented on, the Tuskegee Airmen and others,” he said, as shown in viral video clips. “People have memories. People have long memories.”
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: G_Thang on June 26, 2021, 08:40:20 AM
Here’s Joey admitting the US conducts medical experiments on its citizens:



https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jun/25/biden-offers-theories-minority-vaccination-rates-r/

“There’s a reason why it’s been harder to get African-Americans initially to get vaccinated, because they used to be experimented on, the Tuskegee Airmen and others,” he said, as shown in viral video clips. “People have memories. People have long memories.”

AD5 Vector vaccine originally offered to Africans, in which it potentially induces HIV infections.  You can't make this stuff.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Fortress on June 26, 2021, 08:51:58 AM
If people who have been vaccinated start dropping off like flies, the lawsuits will put these manufacturers out of business.

Each and every sheep could drop tomorrow and not one lawsuit could proceed.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: TheGrinch on June 26, 2021, 09:59:51 AM
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 26, 2021, 10:00:49 AM
Employers seem to be getting around the liability issue by not making the vaccines mandatory but making it a real pain in the ass for you if you don’t take them.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: TheGrinch on June 26, 2021, 10:02:09 AM
“As the entire world run towards a cliff, the one man who runs in the opposite direction appears to have lost his mind”
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: G_Thang on June 26, 2021, 10:02:47 AM
JAKARTA (Reuters) -- More than 350 Indonesian doctors have contracted COVID-19 despite being vaccinated with Sinovac, and dozens have been hospitalized, officials said, as concerns rise about the efficacy of some vaccines against more virulent virus strains.

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Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 26, 2021, 10:03:20 AM
The reason that vaccines normally take so long to get to market isn't the testing for long term effects.  The phase 1-3 tests were done in less than a year as opposed to up to 17 years on a normal vaccine development, and they started to develop the factories and shipping aspects at the same time they started the drug development primarily because they threw money at it rather than keeping costs to a minimum to ensure maximum profitability.   This simultaneous approach reducing the time to develop significantly.  This is informative and talks about the desire to have speed to help
this is also good to explain the differences in development time https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines/timeline

That they had governments around the world as guaranteed customers seems like a pretty good business model for profitability to me.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: G_Thang on June 26, 2021, 10:04:59 AM
Amazes me how the Chinese are getting away with fuckery with no worldwide fines and sanctions
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Dave D on June 26, 2021, 10:13:14 AM
Let me ask this. How bad are the vaccines is someone like prime is still alive? Wouldn't a vaccine with long term side effects be extremely harmful to a man in his late 70's who was a shut in for the last year?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 26, 2021, 10:15:57 AM
Let me ask this. How bad are the vaccines is was AIDS if someone like prime is still alive? Wouldn't a vaccine with long term side effects be extremely harmful to a man in his late 70's who was a shut in for the last year?

FYP

I don’t subscribe to the theory that the vaccines are going to wipe out the population. I just see it as a big Pharma & Government scam. You’re going to vaccinate the public for the flu at the end of flu season? Come on.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: TheGrinch on June 26, 2021, 10:29:31 AM
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Fortress on June 26, 2021, 10:54:49 AM
Amazes me how the Chinese are getting away with fuckery with no worldwide fines and sanctions

I’m on board with you on this, absolutely.

Mind boggling.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: POB on June 26, 2021, 11:01:37 AM
Good post, the manufacturers can't be sued for any averse effects so puts them in a win win position.
This is the biggest problem I see with company’s mandating vaccines for employment a hospital already fired people for no vaccination and San Francisco is already talking about them being mandatory for city employees shouldn’t happen if at all till they are fully approved imho
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 26, 2021, 12:31:03 PM
The reason that vaccines normally take so long to get to market isn't the testing for long term effects.  The phase 1-3 tests were done in less than a year as opposed to up to 17 years on a normal vaccine development, and they started to develop the factories and shipping aspects at the same time they started the drug development primarily because they threw money at it rather than keeping costs to a minimum to ensure maximum profitability.   This simultaneous approach reducing the time to develop significantly.  This is informative and talks about the desire to have speed to help
this is also good to explain the differences in development time https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines/timeline

Thank you. This is good information to know.

After reading Booty's reply to me yesterday, I checked out if she was correct in that the COVID vaccine manufacturers are immune from being sued by people who develop bad side effects. She is right about this. However, if it can be proved they were negligent or intentionally hid information about the dangers of their vaccine, then they can still be sued. The problem is that negligence can be difficult to prove. Still, if these vaccines end up being harmful, the makers of the vaccine will still suffer from the bad publicity. What I found interesting is the FDA cannot be held liable. There are government programs in place that might help someone out who has a negative result, but accessing this help can be difficult, which is not surprising.

When I read the it is next to impossible to sue and there is little other recourse I started to second guess my own decision to get vaccinated. After thinking about it for a bit, I realized had I had this information, I still would have chosen to be vaccinated. I believe the risks of something going wrong with the vaccine are much less than the risk of getting COVID and becoming acutely ill as a result. My choice to have the vaccines stands.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 26, 2021, 12:33:45 PM
Each and every sheep could drop tomorrow and not one lawsuit could proceed.

Hope this helps.


Libs are not paying attention...too busy blaming and virtue signalling.

The seratonin jolt from doing things that don't matter to be in the club must be unusually strong in leftists.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: ThisisOverload on June 26, 2021, 12:42:44 PM
Still not vaccinated.

My employer commented that they "may" require it in order for us to travel across state lines.

I commented that i've been to 7 different states and boarded 30 different flights in the last year.

Also, i've been to Mexico a dozen times in the last year.

They can pound sand.

States are opening back up while only ~50% of the people are vaccinated.

Here in NM Covid has basically disappeared completely, hospitals are now being flooded with people who bypassed surgeries and treatments.

Some of you experts are terrible at math.

Live your life how you see fit. I don't tell people what to do and don't expect to be told either.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 26, 2021, 12:46:56 PM
Still not vaccinated.

My employer commented that they "may" require it in order for us to travel across state lines.

I commented that i've been to 7 different states and boarded 30 different flights in the last year.

Also, i've been to Mexico a dozen times in the last year.

They can pound sand.

States are opening back up while only ~50% of the people are vaccinated.

Here in NM Covid has basically disappeared completely, hospitals are now being flooded with people who bypassed surgeries and treatments.

Some of you experts are terrible at math.

Live your life how you see fit. I don't tell people what to do and don't expect to be told either.


This post should be pinned. The Covidiot crowd on here can suck it.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 26, 2021, 12:50:36 PM
Prime, there won’t be any lawsuits because the manufacturers have been given full indemnity. And when Australians here take a Covid vaccine, they sign a waiver to say they know the risks and the government here is not held accountable. I dare say it’s the same or similar world wide. I know that in the USA they are wanting vaccine passports to travel. Here in Australia, getting vaccinated offers no difference as even fully vaccinated you can’t travel and must endure lockdowns etc. So that means that a fully vaccinated person who wishes to enter Australia, must still go into quarantine for 14 days at your own expense…. Same as an unvaccinated. The reason for this is because you can still transmit the virus.
I am not a virologist etc… I am an average person. But seeing what’s happening in regards to blood clots, myocarditis, strange heavy periods etc and then hearing from the inventor of the MRNA vaccine, that the spike protein breaks off and travels through the blood after 4 hours of being injected into the deltoid is enough to know that these vaccines are going to cause more harm down the line.

I checked out what you posted about the manufacturers having full indemnity and essentially you are right. Only if willful negligence or intentional deception can they be held liable. Never-the-less, it is in their best interests insure that the vaccines are safe because if lots of folks get sick from them, it would jeopardize their reputation which could seriously affect their sales.

Had I known that suing the manufacturers would be next to impossible, I still would have chosen to be vaccinated. I have no regrets now and I hope never will.

As of June 26th 87 countries remain closed, while 126 are open with restrictions and 9 countries are open with no restrictions. In the U.S. restrictions vary by state. Oregon still requires folks be quarantined. Most states have no restriction with regards to travel.

Oregon's governor announced that as of June 30th most restrictions will be lifted and we will be back to business as usual. We are less than 1% shy of the goal of 70% vaccinated. Most likely, this means no masks required while shopping.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Fortress on June 26, 2021, 01:15:08 PM
Still not vaccinated.

My employer commented that they "may" require it in order for us to travel across state lines.

I commented that i've been to 7 different states and boarded 30 different flights in the last year.

Also, i've been to Mexico a dozen times in the last year.

They can pound sand.

States are opening back up while only ~50% of the people are vaccinated.

Here in NM Covid has basically disappeared completely, hospitals are now being flooded with people who bypassed surgeries and treatments.

Some of you experts are terrible at math.

Live your life how you see fit. I don't tell people what to do and don't expect to be told either.

Strength to you, my brother.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 26, 2021, 01:22:09 PM
Still not vaccinated.

My employer commented that they "may" require it in order for us to travel across state lines.

I commented that i've been to 7 different states and boarded 30 different flights in the last year.

Also, i've been to Mexico a dozen times in the last year.

They can pound sand.

States are opening back up while only ~50% of the people are vaccinated.

Here in NM Covid has basically disappeared completely, hospitals are now being flooded with people who bypassed surgeries and treatments.

Some of you experts are terrible at math.

Live your life how you see fit. I don't tell people what to do and don't expect to be told either.

Do you realize that the above bolded sentences are doing exactly what they say not to do, which is telling others how to live their lives.  ;)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: ThisisOverload on June 26, 2021, 01:24:29 PM
Do you realize that the above bolded sentences are doing exactly what they say not to do, which is telling others how to live their lives.  ;)

It's a general statement.

Take it as you wish.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Fortress on June 26, 2021, 01:24:49 PM
I checked out what you posted about the manufacturers having full indemnity and essentially you are right. Only if willful negligence or intentional deception can they be held liable. Never-the-less, it is in their best interests insure that the vaccines are safe because if lots of folks get sick from them, it would jeopardize their reputation which could seriously affect their sales.

Had I known that suing the manufacturers would be next to impossible, I still would have chosen to be vaccinated. I have no regrets now and I hope never will.

As of June 26th 87 countries remain closed, while 126 are open with restrictions and 9 countries are open with no restrictions. In the U.S. restrictions vary by state. Oregon still requires folks be quarantined. Most states have no restriction with regards to travel.

Oregon's governor announced that as of June 30th most restrictions will be lifted and we will be back to business as usual. We are less than 1% shy of the goal of 70% vaccinated. Most likely, this means no masks required while shopping.

The nature of the mechanism through which these “vaccines” work means the negative repercussions likely won’t fully materialize for quite some time and then in ways next to impossible to prove linkage.

The pathways will be too convoluted and too then-to-then-to-then.

It’s essentially a bio-weapon with a built-in cover-its-tracks design.

But a man or woman can do what he/she likes. In this way, I am not an anti-vaxxer.

Nor am I an anti-masker.

Do what you want. Have a syringe loaded with experimental juice shot into your arm. Wear a mask. Wear a welding helmet.

Bath in sanitizer.

Just don’t pester me with your cowardice and non-reliance on your own immune system.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Fortress on June 26, 2021, 01:26:04 PM
Do you realize that the above bolded sentences are doing exactly what they say not to do, which is telling others how to live their lives.  ;)

No they’re not.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 26, 2021, 02:12:23 PM
The nature of the mechanism through which these “vaccines” work means the negative repercussions likely won’t fully materialize for quite some time and then in ways next to impossible to prove linkage.

The pathways will be too convoluted and too then-to-then-to-then.

It’s essentially a bio-weapon with a built-in cover-its-tracks design.

But a man or woman can do what he/she likes. In this way, I am not an anti-vaxxer.

Nor am I an anti-masker.

Do what you want. Have a syringe loaded with experimental juice shot into your arm. Wear a mask. Wear a welding helmet.

Bath in sanitizer.

Just don’t pester me with your cowardice and non-reliance on your own immune system.

Your live and let live approach works great right up to the point where you say "Do what you want." and then it completely fails when you proceed to ridicule anyone who doesn't make the choice you did.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 26, 2021, 08:50:32 PM
My body, my choice. I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night if I had the vaccine, knowing what I know about them. The regulators and doctors know that there’s no way to know the long term sides because they test for auto immune diseases and cancers for 3 years in animals prior to giving to humans.  The vaccinated are the animals.

At this point, I'm supportive of your position. The statistics show people getting hospitalized for Covid now are far and away unvaccinated. While I think they're stupid, I also support their right to be stupid since I don't see it impacting me now that I am vaccinated.   
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: booty on June 26, 2021, 09:07:17 PM
At this point, I'm supportive of your position. The statistics show people getting hospitalized for Covid now are far and away unvaccinated. While I think they're stupid, I also support their right to be stupid since I don't see it impacting me now that I am vaccinated.
It’s nothing to do with smart versus stupid. Unfortunately it comes down to circumstances, timing of when vaccines were given out etc. The information and health advice is always evolving.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Fortress on June 26, 2021, 10:12:27 PM
Your live and let live approach works great right up to the point where you say "Do what you want." and then it completely fails when you proceed to ridicule anyone who doesn't make the choice you did.

How? My ridiculing doesn’t affect your choice being your choice. You doing what you want.

In some of your posts, you suggest those us choosing to not be injected are “stupid”.

It’s your opinion (“ridiculing”, also).

Have at it.

I’ll do what I choose.

See?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Tapeworm on June 26, 2021, 11:21:35 PM
My girl works at an aged care facility. The residents were recently vaccinated en masse. She noted a big increase in problems in the days following, including heart attacks, falls from people who walked well before, people's hands shaking so they couldn't hold a drink who never had shakey hands before, etc. No follow up. No "Hey, maybe" discussions.

Yes, this is anecdote, not evidence. Just like my family members' stories of a rough post-vaccination period are anecdotal. But I am not sold on this product. I don't see a culture of honest inquiry regarding it. I don't believe we're getting an accurate reporting of side effects, the mention of which is a bit taboo. I don't see open and unbiased discussion of alternative treatments and prophylactics like ivermectin. And I'm seeing socialeering and strong-arm tactics to increase adoption.

Would you buy a car with this commercial? My confidence is uninspired.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: ThisisOverload on June 26, 2021, 11:29:44 PM
My girl works at an aged care facility. The residents were recently vaccinated en masse. She noted a big increase in problems in the days following, including heart attacks, falls from people who walked well before, people's hands shaking so they couldn't hold a drink who never had shakey hands before, etc. No follow up. No "Hey, maybe" discussions.

Yes, this is anecdote, not evidence. Just like my family members' stories of a rough post-vaccination period are anecdotal. But I am not sold on this product. I don't see a culture of honest inquiry regarding it. I don't believe we're getting an accurate reporting of side effects, the mention of which is a bit taboo. I don't see open and unbiased discussion of alternative treatments and prophylactics like ivermectin. And I'm seeing socialeering and strong-arm tactics to increase adoption.

Would you buy a car with this commercial? My confidence is uninspired.

Good post.

People believe the CDC, FDA and other government programs are experts.

They aren't, they are spokesmen who have people to report to.

Make your own evaluation and decision.

These are difficult times.

MSM and government outlets cannot be trusted, never have. But it's more obvious now.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: booty on June 26, 2021, 11:43:27 PM
My girl works at an aged care facility. The residents were recently vaccinated en masse. She noted a big increase in problems in the days following, including heart attacks, falls from people who walked well before, people's hands shaking so they couldn't hold a drink who never had shakey hands before, etc. No follow up. No "Hey, maybe" discussions.

Yes, this is anecdote, not evidence. Just like my family members' stories of a rough post-vaccination period are anecdotal. But I am not sold on this product. I don't see a culture of honest inquiry regarding it. I don't believe we're getting an accurate reporting of side effects, the mention of which is a bit taboo. I don't see open and unbiased discussion of alternative treatments and prophylactics like ivermectin. And I'm seeing socialeering and strong-arm tactics to increase adoption.

Would you buy a car with this commercial? My confidence is uninspired.
Good post. There are 308 deaths recorded on the tga.gov.au here however only 2 deaths have supposedly been linked to the vaccines. People are reporting serious and life changing side affects and are being told it can’t be the vaccine because it’s safe. If you question the safety of the vaccines, you are seen as crazy and a conspiracist. Ivermectin isn’t being advocated because there isn’t any money to be made.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: G_Thang on June 27, 2021, 12:17:58 AM
Getting conflicting stories on this one. NC State baseball team can't advance b.c 2 asymptomatic non-vaccinated players test positive but Vandy had a least 4 vaccinated asymptomatic players with positive tests. Did the non-vaccinated players have one less antibody and T-Cell than the vaccinated players? What kind of bullshit is this? 
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 27, 2021, 03:50:38 AM
Getting conflicting stories on this one. NC State baseball team can't advance b.c 2 asymptomatic non-vaccinated players test positive but Vandy had a least 4 vaccinated asymptomatic players with positive tests. Did the non-vaccinated players have one less antibody and T-Cell than the vaccinated players? What kind of bullshit is this?
They punish those who don't comply.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: IroNat on June 27, 2021, 04:27:12 AM
They punish those who don't comply.

This.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: bhank on June 27, 2021, 04:42:45 AM
It's not man-made, gone through normal sequence spacing (variant fear-mongering bullshit they keep putting out in the media) in the lab.  There are genetic alterations that chinks made during the maturation process.  Too many generations have passed for them to locate the makers similar to how they determined the viral generation which made its' way from Germany - NY.

It is absolutely man made or well man tweaked and strengthened and that is the problem they strengthened it in the lab it is just going to keep mutating and getting stronger. This is not a normal virus it will mutate and spread faster than we can put out vaccines there will be 20 different strains floating around in a few years
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: joswift on June 27, 2021, 04:43:39 AM
It is absolutely man made or well man tweaked and strengthened and that is the problem they strengthened it in the lab it is just going to keep mutating and getting stronger. This is not a normal virus it will mutate and spread faster than we can put out vaccines there will be 20 different strains floating around in a few years

there are at least 4,000 already
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 27, 2021, 05:11:50 AM
There’s always something going around. This one is just being used for a worldwide currency devaluation.


1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1957-1958-pandemic.html
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 27, 2021, 08:00:30 AM
At this point, I'm supportive of your position. The statistics show people getting hospitalized for Covid now are far and away unvaccinated. While I think they're stupid, I also support their right to be stupid since I don't see it impacting me now that I am vaccinated.

You might want to keep that sleeve rolled up.


Pfizer's posts $4.9B 1Q profit as vaccine strategy pays off

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-vaccine-coronavirus-health-business-3d281d0a09f18c5a671ca030b332a7bc

The company, along with its German partner BioNTech, anticipate strong revenue from the vaccine and booster shots for the next three years.


The partners expect to be able to deliver about 2.5 billion vaccine doses this year, including 300 million doses for the U.S., and already are prepping for what could become annual booster shots.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 27, 2021, 09:47:59 AM
The Russian people smell the rat:



https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-registered-first-covid-vaccine-now-it-s-struggling-vaccinate-n1272092

Covid-19 cases are rising and the government is trying to convince hesitant residents to get a vaccine.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 27, 2021, 10:17:16 AM
How? My ridiculing doesn’t affect your choice being your choice. You doing what you want.

In some of your posts, you suggest those us choosing to not be injected are “stupid”.

It’s your opinion (“ridiculing”, also).

Have at it.

I’ll do what I choose.

See?

I do not believe I used the term stupid. I might have suggested they were uninformed, but that doesn't IMO mean stupid. What the writer intends and how the reader takes what is written don't necessarily concur. 
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: DanM on June 27, 2021, 10:22:39 AM
It doesn't help that most of the evidence and frankly the common sense points to this being accidentally released from a lab.

Between that and contradictions of what was told to the public and what was expressed in private emails

Not to mention the massive financial incentive of big pharma and the utter lack of legal accountability on there behalf

This whole thing is a fumbling mess and anyone who supports it really has to suspend critical belief at a astonishing level   
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: TheGrinch on June 27, 2021, 11:15:18 AM
wooooooooooooooshhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Same people who sell the fear.... sell the pill

Covid vaccine profits mint 9 new pharma billionaires


https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/21/business/covid-vaccine-billionaires/index.html
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 27, 2021, 11:40:54 AM
wooooooooooooooshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Same people who sell the fear.... sell the pill

Covid vaccine profits mint 9 new pharma billionaires


https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/21/business/covid-vaccine-billionaires/index.html

Ah, it's all making sense now. Perhaps this is the reason this vaccine is being pushed so hard for a virus that is highly ttreatable without the vaccine?

Calling something that doesn't prevent you from getting the virus is a stretch, but this information regarding billionaires is interesting.

Does anyone get the impression in these pharmaceutical companies are shady?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 27, 2021, 11:50:57 AM
Ah, it's all making sense now. Perhaps this is the reason this vaccine is being pushed so hard for a virus that is highly ttreatable without the vaccine?

Calling something that doesn't prevent you from getting the virus is a stretch, but this information regarding billionaires is interesting.

Does anyone get the impression in these pharmaceutical companies are shady?

It’s also a heavily regulated industry so the government gets its cuts by either fines or lawsuits:


Johnson & Johnson reaches $230 million opioid settlement with New York

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/johnson-johnson-reaches-230-million-opioid-settlement-new-york-n1272449

Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Fortress on June 27, 2021, 02:18:12 PM
I do not believe I used the term stupid. I might have suggested they were uninformed, but that doesn't IMO mean stupid. What the writer intends and how the reader takes what is written don't necessarily concur.

You ABSOLUTELY DID use the word “stupid”.

Of course, you’ve also deleted the posts from the previous page in which you used the word.

Coward. Hypocrite.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 27, 2021, 04:39:24 PM
You ABSOLUTELY DID use the word “stupid”.

Of course, you’ve also deleted the posts from the previous page in which you used the word.

Coward. Hypocrite.

I have not deleted any post relating to vaccine or COVID. But it is convenient for you to try and cover your ass by saying I did. FYI, your memory is failing you or you are....never mind, I am not going to stoop to calling you names over this nonsense.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Fortress on June 27, 2021, 05:09:25 PM
I have not deleted any post relating to vaccine or COVID. But it is convenient for you to try and cover your ass by saying I did. FYI, your memory is failing you or you are....never mind, I am not going to stoop to calling you names over this nonsense.

Liar.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: pamith on June 27, 2021, 07:39:49 PM
Where's Adolph when we need him?
Bro...
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 27, 2021, 08:59:29 PM
Amazes me how the Chinese are getting away with fuckery with no worldwide fines and sanctions

Australia is already brawling with the Chings  ;)

AU spent over 19 billion $ on American build drones & Chinaman is fuming  ;D
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: IRON CROSS on June 27, 2021, 09:27:22 PM


I commented that i've been to 7 different states and boarded 30 different flights in the last year.

Also, i've been to Mexico a dozen times in the last year.



China Flu never infects pilots/air crews  8)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: G_Thang on June 28, 2021, 02:05:04 AM
Delta Covid variant has a new mutation called ‘delta plus’: Here’s what you need to know

A plus-size viroid found under a microscope.  ::)

Oh, I meant to say, Delta Plus has a plus-size capsid.  ::)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Stutheobald on June 28, 2021, 05:31:50 AM
Prime, there won’t be any lawsuits because the manufacturers have been given full indemnity. And when Australians here take a Covid vaccine, they sign a waiver to say they know the risks and the government here is not held accountable. I dare say it’s the same or similar world wide. I know that in the USA they are wanting vaccine passports to travel. Here in Australia, getting vaccinated offers no difference as even fully vaccinated you can’t travel and must endure lockdowns etc. So that means that a fully vaccinated person who wishes to enter Australia, must still go into quarantine for 14 days at your own expense…. Same as an unvaccinated. The reason for this is because you can still transmit the virus.
I am not a virologist etc… I am an average person. But seeing what’s happening in regards to blood clots, myocarditis, strange heavy periods etc and then hearing from the inventor of the MRNA vaccine, that the spike protein breaks off and travels through the blood after 4 hours of being injected into the deltoid is enough to know that these vaccines are going to cause more harm down the line.

The big reason for removing them from lawsuits is to protect them from frivolous claims,. if you look through the VAERS website you will see things like "crashed car into tree because of vaccine" and the like, all of which would end up in a lawsuit in the US and would cost them billions and would tie up thousands of lawyers to defend them all.  They basically give a small portion of each vaccine sale over to cover the VAERS claims and basically settle out of court to reduce costs.  If they didn't do this the costs of defending every suit would make it unviable to manufacture vaccines
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Stutheobald on June 28, 2021, 05:32:49 AM
That they had governments around the world as guaranteed customers seems like a pretty good business model for profitability to me.

For sales, not necessarily profitability
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Stutheobald on June 28, 2021, 05:36:29 AM
Thank you. This is good information to know.

After reading Booty's reply to me yesterday, I checked out if she was correct in that the COVID vaccine manufacturers are immune from being sued by people who develop bad side effects. She is right about this. However, if it can be proved they were negligent or intentionally hid information about the dangers of their vaccine, then they can still be sued. The problem is that negligence can be difficult to prove. Still, if these vaccines end up being harmful, the makers of the vaccine will still suffer from the bad publicity. What I found interesting is the FDA cannot be held liable. There are government programs in place that might help someone out who has a negative result, but accessing this help can be difficult, which is not surprising.

When I read the it is next to impossible to sue and there is little other recourse I started to second guess my own decision to get vaccinated. After thinking about it for a bit, I realized had I had this information, I still would have chosen to be vaccinated. I believe the risks of something going wrong with the vaccine are much less than the risk of getting COVID and becoming acutely ill as a result. My choice to have the vaccines stands.

its really about protecting the company from frivolous law suits.  The VAERS database is full of claims that say everything from my hair falling out to crashing a car is because of vaccines.  If the drug companies had to defend each and every whack job suit then they would have to employ armies of lawyers and cost them tens of billions, at which point they would walk away from making vaccines.  It is the litigious nature of the USA that has caused that scenario.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 28, 2021, 05:44:01 AM
For sales, not necessarily profitability

The sales figures are so huge even if the profit margins are lower they’re still going to clean up:

The COVID vaccine is set to make up more than half of Pfizer’s 2021 revenue – Fortune

https://fortune.com/2021/05/04/covid-19-vaccine-pfizer-earnings-revenue/
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 28, 2021, 05:58:32 AM
Fucking Marks keep thinking of that if they’re just good boys and girls it will be over. Sorry kids.


AstraZeneca Booster Shot Lifts Immune Response, Study Finds

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/28/world/astrazeneca-vaccine-booster-shot.html
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Megalodon on June 28, 2021, 06:31:41 AM
 >:(

https://twitter.com/Pelham_3/status/1407964106653536256
 (https://twitter.com/Pelham_3/status/1407964106653536256)
(https://i.postimg.cc/xd470Nhk/E45-Gc-FXMAMp11s.png)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 28, 2021, 08:22:58 AM
WTF!!! ???  Those kids can die as long as it's not Covid.  Of course, it will be blamed on Covid even if they die of cancer. 
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 28, 2021, 09:03:46 AM
WTF!!! ???  Those kids can die as long as it's not Covid.  Of course, it will be blamed on Covid even if they die of cancer.

Not to mention the increased possibility of the vaccine giving a terminally ill patient myocarditis

Sounds brilliant.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 28, 2021, 09:20:17 AM
Not to mention the increased possibility of the vaccine giving a terminally ill patient myocarditis

Sounds brilliant.
Virtue signalling is more important.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Megalodon on June 28, 2021, 09:58:27 AM
Those dupes that have been programmed to believe that having freedom is being selfish:

(https://i.postimg.cc/28zMLj5T/E4-np-YZXIAQHv-D4.jpg)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: G_Thang on June 28, 2021, 10:32:23 AM
>:(

https://twitter.com/Pelham_3/status/1407964106653536256
 (https://twitter.com/Pelham_3/status/1407964106653536256)
(https://i.postimg.cc/xd470Nhk/E45-Gc-FXMAMp11s.png)

Mankind needs a reckoning.  This is an abomination. Children are defenseless.  God equipped them with the most prolific immune on this earth.  Why the fuck are they getting these vaccines?   
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 28, 2021, 11:40:11 AM
This is interesting 🤔


Live Nation confirms: No vaccine required for St. Joe’s Amp, Darien Lake, SPAC concerts


https://www.syracuse.com/entertainment/2021/06/live-nation-confirms-no-vaccine-required-for-st-joes-amp-darien-lake-spac-concerts.html
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Rascal full on June 28, 2021, 11:44:02 AM
Mankind needs a reckoning.  This is an abomination. Children are defenseless.  God equipped them with the most prolific immune on this earth.  Why the fuck are they getting these vaccines?

WTF that is appalling
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: tommywishbone on June 28, 2021, 12:01:44 PM
Getting the vaccine is the perfect equivalent of hiring a computer tech back in 1999 and spending $2,500 getting your computer ready for Y2K.

Meaningless shit. Did nothing. Pointless. Just made the nerd a few bucks.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 28, 2021, 12:21:55 PM
The sales figures are so huge even if the profit margins are lower they’re still going to clean up:

The COVID vaccine is set to make up more than half of Pfizer’s 2021 revenue – Fortune

https://fortune.com/2021/05/04/covid-19-vaccine-pfizer-earnings-revenue/

Do you believe big pharma should give their vaccine away for free? The Development, testing, manufacturing and distribution of these vaccines cost plenty. If it makes for half of Pfizer's revenue, that makes sense. This may be the most widely used vaccine in the history of vaccines, including smallpox and diphtheria.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 28, 2021, 12:28:45 PM
Fucking Marks keep thinking of that if they’re just good boys and girls it will be over. Sorry kids.


AstraZeneca Booster Shot Lifts Immune Response, Study Finds

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/28/world/astrazeneca-vaccine-booster-shot.html

How much did folks have to pay for the first two AstraZenica shots? Oh that's right, they paid nothing.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 28, 2021, 12:32:18 PM
Getting the vaccine is the perfect equivalent of hiring a computer tech back in 1999 and spending $2,500 getting your computer ready for Y2K.

Meaningless shit. Did nothing. Pointless. Just made the nerd a few bucks.

except the vaccine is at no cost to the person getting it and COVID is already with us....your analogy doesn't compute.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Megalodon on June 28, 2021, 12:35:17 PM
How much did folks have to pay for the first two AstraZenica shots? Oh that's right, they paid nothing.

Who paid for it?

If the government, who funds the government?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 28, 2021, 12:42:17 PM
Who paid for it?

If the government, who funds the government?

I thought of that. Seems to me if there was no vaccine and COVID went unchecked, the number of people dying, requiring ICU or regular hospital stays, or even had a mild case that only cost them a week or two off work, the costs to taxpayers would be greater. Also, until your taxes are increased because of the vaccine, you've paid nothing. So, let's revisit this when the government wants to raise your taxes because of the vaccine expense.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Megalodon on June 28, 2021, 12:54:52 PM
I thought of that. Seems to me if there was no vaccine and COVID went unchecked, the number of people dying, requiring ICU or regular hospital stays, or even had a mild case that only cost them a week or two off work, the costs to taxpayers would be greater. Also, until your taxes are increased because of the vaccine, you've paid nothing. So, let's revisit this when the government wants to raise your taxes because of the vaccine expense.

Tax money is still funding the vaccine.

The vaccine is funded by taxpayers. True or false?

How much did the lockdown cost taxpayers? You're talking about missing a week or more of work vs businesses closing down entirely. Taxpayers got stimulus checks? Where did the government get the money for the stimulus checks?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 28, 2021, 12:59:18 PM
Prime = Economic Illiterate
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: deadz on June 28, 2021, 01:02:49 PM
Prime = Economic Illiterate
Don’t forget coward and queer. He’s without a doubt the biggest pussy on getbig.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 28, 2021, 01:19:30 PM
Do you believe big pharma should give their vaccine away for free? The Development, testing, manufacturing and distribution of these vaccines cost plenty. If it makes for half of Pfizer's revenue, that makes sense. This may be the most widely used vaccine in the history of vaccines, including smallpox and diphtheria.

One thing, operation warp speed funded $18 billion for the development of these vaccines...


Do you think it's a bit fishy that the pharmaceutical companies are keeping the profits from the sales of these vaccines the government paid for?

Nothing to see here, right?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 28, 2021, 04:47:10 PM
One thing, operation warp speed funded $18 billion for the development of these vaccines...


Do you think it's a bit fishy that the pharmaceutical companies are keeping the profits from the sales of these vaccines the government paid for?

Nothing to see here, right?

Whatever you say.  ::)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Megalodon on June 28, 2021, 05:30:41 PM
Whatever you say.  ::)

At least you tried. Remember, defeat is not the worst of failures. Not having tried is the true failure.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 29, 2021, 12:16:43 AM
At least you tried. Remember, defeat is not the worst of failures. Not having tried is the true failure.

There's that and then there's 'beating a dead horse'. This place if loaded with dead horses.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: mac33 on June 29, 2021, 12:43:55 AM
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 29, 2021, 07:49:32 AM
Whatever you say.  ::)

See, I told ya you should take them all on a revolving basis, remember?



https://www.wsj.com/articles/third-astrazeneca-covid-shot-can-be-effective-booster-study-shows-11624896656

Alternating a dose of Covid-19 vaccine made byPfizer Inc. with one from AstraZeneca PLC is safe and provides a strong immune response against the disease, a new study shows.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Tapeworm on June 29, 2021, 08:32:59 AM
Dr. Francis Christian, for being in favor of informed consent and agreeing with the WHO's statement that children should not be vaccinated, has been railroaded out of a job and told that he's in need of psychological help.

The audio starts at about 4:50. This is the sound of silencing.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/5rv1galfv8npa3g/2021-06-23_08-26-55.wav?dl=0
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: joswift on June 29, 2021, 08:54:21 AM
https://twitter.com/hidearzaki2/status/1409813895259299849?s=12&fbclid=IwAR1sXVeTaQ7ZGotSYlwuC-vZD2UkIg3KsITQAuykT2umBm5nYR4inSacF-s
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 29, 2021, 10:09:29 AM
See, I told ya you should take them all on a revolving basis, remember?



https://www.wsj.com/articles/third-astrazeneca-covid-shot-can-be-effective-booster-study-shows-11624896656

Alternating a dose of Covid-19 vaccine made byPfizer Inc. with one from AstraZeneca PLC is safe and provides a strong immune response against the disease, a new study shows.

Seems like everyday there is some new idea, which may be a good one or not.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 29, 2021, 10:26:04 AM
Dr. Francis Christian, for being in favor of informed consent and agreeing with the WHO's statement that children should not be vaccinated, has been railroaded out of a job and told that he's in need of psychological help.

The audio starts at about 4:50. This is the sound of silencing.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/5rv1galfv8npa3g/2021-06-23_08-26-55.wav?dl=0

I'm not surprised given the current state of things regarding the vaccine, but can you imagine this happening a couple years prior?

This guy is making perfect sense, but it's just his educated opinion and he should be fired for it?

I am more certain than ever of not getting this vaccine. This shit is what movies are made of.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: G_Thang on June 29, 2021, 10:32:31 AM
‘Bringing back mask mandate is a good idea’: a doctor on Delta variant

Fully vaccinated people are getting sick!

Fuboi Rushed Vaccines! Actually, experimental compounds because they are still in phase testing.  ::)

Oh, they let the 4 fully vaccinated virus-carrying Vanderbilt players continue in the  CWS.  No way they could make someone sick.   ::)
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 29, 2021, 10:37:31 AM
‘Bringing back mask mandate is a good idea’: a doctor on Delta variant

Fully vaccinated people are getting sick!

Fuboi Rushed Vaccines! Actually, experimental compounds because they are still in phase testing.  ::)

Oh, they let the 4 fully vaccinated virus-carrying Vanderbilt players continue in the  CWS.  No way they could make someone sick.   ::)

I love how all of these articles on CNN and other Libby network's are all filled with 'experts' and sources. Very little if this is coming from the CDC.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 29, 2021, 11:45:03 AM
I love how all of these articles on CNN and other Libby network's are all filled with 'experts' and sources. Very little if this is coming from the CDC.

Even when the CDC was advocating mask use outdoors when exercising the WHO had the opposite position. Now they both switch positions. How can you take this shit seriously?


https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/coronavirus-disease-covid-19-masks


Should I wear a mask while exercising?
Even when you’re in an area of COVID-19 transmission, masks should not be worn during vigorous physical activity because of the risk of reducing your breathing capacity. No matter how intensely you exercise, keep at least 1 metre away from others, and if you’re indoors, make sure there is adequate ventilation.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Tapeworm on June 29, 2021, 10:15:23 PM
My girl works at an aged care facility. The residents were recently vaccinated en masse. She noted a big increase in problems in the days following, including heart attacks, falls from people who walked well before, people's hands shaking so they couldn't hold a drink who never had shakey hands before, etc. No follow up. No "Hey, maybe" discussions.

Yes, this is anecdote, not evidence. Just like my family members' stories of a rough post-vaccination period are anecdotal. But I am not sold on this product. I don't see a culture of honest inquiry regarding it. I don't believe we're getting an accurate reporting of side effects, the mention of which is a bit taboo. I don't see open and unbiased discussion of alternative treatments and prophylactics like ivermectin. And I'm seeing socialeering and strong-arm tactics to increase adoption.

Would you buy a car with this commercial? My confidence is uninspired.

And the Australian Government has just mandated vaccination for all aged care workers as of mid September.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: G_Thang on June 30, 2021, 03:07:02 AM
How much did folks have to pay for the first two AstraZenica shots? Oh that's right, they paid nothing.

RIP! Marvin Hagler and others passed away with a smile on their faces after that fucboi vaccine shot.
(https://s.france24.com/media/display/33fcd13c-84a0-11eb-a1c9-005056bf87d6/w:1280/p:16x9/AP19049587658072.webp)

Talk about Becky staying on code.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Rascal full on June 30, 2021, 04:22:36 AM
And the Australian Government has just mandated vaccination for all aged care workers as of mid September.

Oh FFS! What she gonna do?
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 30, 2021, 06:06:30 AM
One of the few heroes of this debacle:


Senator Rand Paul
@RandPaul
Don’t let the fearmongers win. New public England study of delta variant shows 44 deaths out of 53,822 (.08%) in unvaccinated group. Hmmm.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Phantom Spunker on June 30, 2021, 06:16:17 AM
I've flown ten times this year already and I'm currently doing another mandatory quarantine in a hotel. Everyone who's been vaccinated still has to do the same thing, and still has to pay ridiculous prices for their PCR test. I'm getting really fucking sick of having former shot-put champions launching swabs into my sinus cavity.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Tapeworm on June 30, 2021, 07:34:09 AM
Oh FFS! What she gonna do?

Undecided for now. She intends to wait as long as possible and then make a choice.

A union representing health & aged care workers has "no stance on the matter," so they told me. The government labour law body Fair Work Australia similarly has nothing to say about the legality of mandating a pharmaceutical approved for interim emergency use or a worker's right to decline a medical treatment.

I have cold-emailed some labour law professor who gave a brief interview that I found online. It's a total hail mary and the whole thing feels like fighting city hall. There's no one with any clout going to stand for working people not being strong armed into shit. Same as it ever was.

IMO she ought to use this contentious issue as a launching pad for a new union since the only way to recind the mandate is if half the country's staff (who are already too few) say they'll walk off the job. Then demand a 100% pay increase over the next 3 years, every penny of which they deserve. But she isn't a nut with a Caesar complex like me, so in the end she will either take the shot or lose the job, which she [inexplicably] loves.

And if civil liberties disappear altogether here and I decide to head back to the US with her... well, no air travel without the shot, right? Kinda got us in a box here.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: kreator on June 30, 2021, 12:51:05 PM
The richest fuck5 in the world are funding this plandemic. Anybody in the medical field that speaks against it and/or doesn’t support the vacc1nes gets censored and sacked. A couple of days ago they fired the dean of a university in Croatia for publicly telling the facts about how many people either got injured or died from the jab.

 
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 30, 2021, 01:04:22 PM
So, here we are. It is June 30th and in Oregon this means the mask mandate has been lifted in all but the Federal ones, which are in travel and medical situations. Here's the catch. Individual businesses can still mandate masks be worn. But then, technically they've always been able to do this, long before anyone ever heard of COVID. I haven't been out yet today, so I don't know if the places I shop have dropped the mask requirement.

I think this means businesses can operate at the same level as they did prior to Covid. This translates to longer hours of operation and social distancing requirements. Bar and counter seating should again be available.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 30, 2021, 01:42:17 PM
The richest fuck5 in the world are funding this plandemic. Anybody in the medical field that speaks against it and/or doesn’t support the vacc1nes gets censored and sacked. A couple of days ago they fired the dean of a university in Croatia for publicly telling the facts about how many people either got injured or died from the jab.

He's not the first https://saskatoon.ctvnews.ca/university-of-sask-suspends-surgery-prof-who-made-covid-19-claims-1.5482545

These stories have removed any doubt in my decision to not get vaccinated for a highly treatable disease.

This is straight up communist behavior.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 30, 2021, 01:47:32 PM
So, here we are. It is June 30th and in Oregon this means the mask mandate has been lifted in all but the Federal ones, which are in travel and medical situations. Here's the catch. Individual businesses can still mandate masks be worn. But then, technically they've always been able to do this, long before anyone ever heard of COVID. I haven't been out yet today, so I don't know if the places I shop have dropped the mask requirement.

I think this means businesses can operate at the same level as they did prior to Covid. This translates to longer hours of operation and social distancing requirements. Bar and counter seating should again be available.

Depends where you live. In California it appears they may be going back to enforcing masks for everyone, including those vaccinated due to the delta variant.

California is a SHITSHOW though and things are not truly open.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: deadz on June 30, 2021, 01:53:18 PM
Depends where you live. In California it appears they may be going back to enforcing masks for everyone, including those vaccinated due to the delta variant.

California is a SHITSHOW though when things are not truly open.
Always thought Cali would be the place to live one day. At this point in my life I wouldn’t step foot there.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 30, 2021, 03:47:30 PM
Depends where you live. In California it appears they may be going back to enforcing masks for everyone, including those vaccinated due to the delta variant.

California is a SHITSHOW though and things are not truly open.

This is a bit of a surprise. I'm under the impression that Californians have been really vocal about not liking the restrictions. If they are reimposed, Newsom will most likely be voted out.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 30, 2021, 05:06:06 PM
This is a bit of a surprise. I'm under the impression that Californians have been really vocal about not liking the restrictions. If they are reimposed, Newsom will most likely be voted out.

His recall election officially begun.... hopefully he's out soon. I know it may not make a huge difference for the State of California immediately, but I'd like to see that bastard never succeed politically. If he's recalled that's at least a fat blemish on his record.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 30, 2021, 05:19:47 PM
His recall election officially begun.... hopefully he's out soon. I know it may not make a huge difference for the State of California immediately, but I'd like to see that bastard never succeed politically. If he's recalled that's at least a fat blemish on his record.

If I were you, I wouldn't get my hopes up.

As of June 24th, according to Newsweek, the odds of Newsom not being recalled have shortened from 1/8 to 1/10—meaning they deem it increasingly likely Newsom will survive the vote and retain his position.

It is interesting to note that the recall petition was introduced in February 2020. Initially the petition's grievances had nothing to do with his handling of the pandemic. Immigration to homelessness to property taxes were the issues.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on June 30, 2021, 05:42:56 PM
If I were you, I wouldn't get my hopes up.

As of June 24th, according to Newsweek, the odds of Newsom not being recalled have shortened from 1/8 to 1/10—meaning they deem it increasingly likely Newsom will survive the vote and retain his position.

It is interesting to note that the recall petition was introduced in February 2020. Initially the petition's grievances had nothing to do with his handling of the pandemic. Immigration to homelessness to property taxes were the issues.

I'm not sure I believe any odds/estimates at this point. We're dealing with the same thing we didn during the last presidential election. Lots of silent people here. Just like with Trump, many didn't feel comfortable talking poorly about Newsom.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on June 30, 2021, 05:59:21 PM
I'm not sure I believe any odds/estimates at this point. We're dealing with the same thing we didn during the last presidential election. Lots of silent people here. Just like with Trump, many didn't feel comfortable talking poorly about Newsom.

Good point. In any election or recall anything can happen. As for polls (fixed for accuracy), they can certainly be inaccurate. Many people when asked how they voted on an issue or for one candidate over another will respond either politely or impolitely tell you that it is their business which they choose not to share.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: AbrahamG on June 30, 2021, 11:07:42 PM
Good point. In any election or recall anything can happen. As for poles, they can certainly be inaccurate. Many people when asked how they voted on an issue or for one candidate over another will respond either politely or impolitely tell you that it is their business which they choose not to share.

Polls old man.  Polls.   ;D
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2021, 12:06:51 AM
Polls old man.  Polls.   ;D

Thanks....guess I can't blame spell check or like Coach, blame voice to text, huh?  :-[
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: booty on July 01, 2021, 04:47:02 AM
In Australia, even if you are fully vaccinated and test negative to Covid multiple times, you still have to do 14 days hotel quarantine. There was a woman who travelled from the USA 11 days ago to see her dying Dad. He passed away today while she was in hotel quarantine. She had applied for an exemption but it was denied. It’s absolutely disgusting and shows no heart from our government.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Fortress on July 01, 2021, 05:05:53 AM
In Australia, even if you are fully vaccinated and test negative to Covid multiple times, you still have to do 14 days hotel quarantine. There was a woman who travelled from the USA 11 days ago to see her dying Dad. He passed away today while she was in hotel quarantine. She had applied for an exemption but it was denied. It’s absolutely disgusting and shows no heart from our government.

A tragic story.

The madness is beyond comprehension.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 01, 2021, 05:08:18 AM
Thanks....guess I can't blame spell check or like Coach, blame voice to text, huh?  :-[

Kvnt ^^


Spike protein is very dangerous

Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 01, 2021, 07:05:46 AM
Britain starts planning for vaccine booster shots from September | Reuters


https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britain-starts-planning-vaccine-booster-shots-september-2021-06-30/
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: joswift on July 01, 2021, 07:07:27 AM
In Australia, even if you are fully vaccinated and test negative to Covid multiple times, you still have to do 14 days hotel quarantine. There was a woman who travelled from the USA 11 days ago to see her dying Dad. He passed away today while she was in hotel quarantine. She had applied for an exemption but it was denied. It’s absolutely disgusting and shows no heart from our government.
Covid will hit Australia sooner or later, all thats happening is they are prolonging the inevitable.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Tapeworm on July 01, 2021, 07:43:56 AM
Covid will hit Australia sooner or later, all thats happening is they are prolonging the inevitable.

I think you're right but there has been some really unusual differences here. A guy with the UK supercontagion failed to infect anyone over a period of about 10 days, including uber drivers and his housemates.

I've never heard an explanation of how that could be. It's surprising that the lack of spread isn't being examined, or maybe not since it wouldn't serve the vaccination push well. My only hypothesis is that UV is higher without an ozone layer and the place is sunny as hell and full of light skinned people, so it might top the charts for vitamin D. It definitely has nothing to do with Aussies being healthy or in shape.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 01, 2021, 08:31:48 AM
It’s called Winter Flu Season. We have one here in the states every year. Difference is that the seasons are reversed down under:

It was 100° here yesterday. I know someone down under who’s on a ski trip.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Tapeworm on July 01, 2021, 08:42:58 AM
Probably has to go through a police checkpoint to get on the chairlift.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 01, 2021, 08:48:37 AM
Probably has to go through a police checkpoint to get on the chairlift.

😂😂

He’s a lawyer so might know how to get around the BS.


Mount Kosciuszko - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Kosciuszko
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 01, 2021, 08:53:14 AM
Just like AIDS back in the 80s. Big Pharma had the poor Booty Bandits on 20 different drugs, only this time there’s a much bigger market.

Mixing Covid jabs has good immune response, study finds - BBC News

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57636356
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: joswift on July 01, 2021, 09:03:09 AM
I think you're right but there has been some really unusual differences here. A guy with the UK supercontagion failed to infect anyone over a period of about 10 days, including uber drivers and his housemates.

I've never heard an explanation of how that could be. It's surprising that the lack of spread isn't being examined, or maybe not since it wouldn't serve the vaccination push well. My only hypothesis is that UV is higher without an ozone layer and the place is sunny as hell and full of light skinned people, so it might top the charts for vitamin D. It definitely has nothing to do with Aussies being healthy or in shape.

thats because it doesnt exist, variants of a virus only mutate 0.3% from the original strain
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: WeightPSHR on July 01, 2021, 10:41:34 AM
Just like AIDS back in the 80s. Big Pharma had the poor Booty Bandits on 20 different drugs, only this time there’s a much bigger market.

Mixing Covid jabs has good immune response, study finds - BBC News

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57636356

And zero long term studies on any if this....CRAZY that anyone in the low risk group would consider being vaccinated with a vaccine(s) that's in this phase.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Hypertrophy on July 01, 2021, 11:33:16 AM
Just like AIDS back in the 80s. Big Pharma had the poor Booty Bandits on 20 different drugs, only this time there’s a much bigger market.

Mixing Covid jabs has good immune response, study finds - BBC News

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57636356 (https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57636356)


It is also true just getting Covid gives an awesome immune response!  ;D
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: booty on July 01, 2021, 06:23:18 PM
Kvnt ^^


Spike protein is very dangerous


I watched the full 3 hour video. It was brilliant. YouTube deleted it now due to censoring but you can find it on Odysee. Just follow dark horse or Bret Weinstein for anyone interested.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: booty on July 01, 2021, 06:30:19 PM
Covid will hit Australia sooner or later, all thats happening is they are prolonging the inevitable.
Yes we are on borrowed time. The government plan to cut in half the travellers entering Australia. So in other words make this country even more of a fortress. The delta variant has seeded out all the country. Half is in lockdown. It’s really growing in Sydney. In my state which is referred to as sunny Queensland, the cases have dropped and they are ending lockdown for Townsville and magnetic island and the other south eastern areas apart from Brisbane. At any given time we can get a few hours notice and go into lockdown. Many are beyond over this strategy 18 months in.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2021, 08:04:24 PM
Yes we are on borrowed time. The government plan to cut in half the travellers entering Australia. So in other words make this country even more of a fortress. The delta variant has seeded out all the country. Half is in lockdown. It’s really growing in Sydney. In my state which is referred to as sunny Queensland, the cases have dropped and they are ending lockdown for Townsville and magnetic island and the other south eastern areas apart from Brisbane. At any given time we can get a few hours notice and go into lockdown. Many are beyond over this strategy 18 months in.

Before COVID, in 2019, tourism in Australia accounted for 3.1% of the national GDP, contributing $60.8 billion to the Australian economy. Look out for an economic downturn on top of whatever has already happened with lock-downs.

Oregon became mostly restriction free today. People were out and about everywhere I went. Most of them were not wearing masks. A local restaurant was packed with people waiting to be seated at 5:00 pm. It is going to be a wild 4th of July weekend, minus any fireworks, which were banned because of the three days of blazing hell temperatures, 117°F or 47°C that literally turned vegetation into a giant dried flower arrangement waiting for a match to blow it up.

The death toll from the those days is currently around 80 people and counting. Heat, like COVID takes out the weak and underprivileged. I just read were a few of those deaths were homeless people. Most were old folks with no air-conditioning or fans. One such person, a woman in her 80's lived in a mobile home. That would be like getting cooked alive inside a tin can.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 01, 2021, 08:27:23 PM
Before COVID, in 2019, tourism in Australia accounted for 3.1% of the national GDP, contributing $60.8 billion to the Australian economy. Look out for an economic downturn on top of whatever has already happened with lock-downs.

Oregon became mostly restriction free today. People were out and about everywhere I went. Most of them were not wearing masks. A local restaurant was packed with people waiting to be seated at 5:00 pm. It is going to be a wild 4th of July weekend, minus any fireworks, which were banned because of the three days of blazing hell temperatures, 117°F or 47°C that literally turned vegetation into a giant dried flower arrangement waiting for a match to blow it up.

The death toll from the those days is currently around 80 people and counting. Heat, like COVID takes out the weak and underprivileged. I just read were a few of those deaths were homeless people. Most were old folks with no air-conditioning or fans. One such person, a woman in her 80's lived in a mobile home. That would be like getting cooked alive inside a tin can.


At least 30,000 years people did just fine without AC there Googlemaster. 70+ and still amazed by....hot weather...the new Covid.  ::)

Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2021, 08:39:04 PM

At least 30,000 years people did just fine without AC there Googlemaster. 70+ and still amazed by....hot weather...the new Covid.  ::)

How do you know people did just fine without AC? Maybe, hoards of people died when there was a heatwave of this magnitude? Are you saying life was great 30,000 years ago when the death rate was who knows how much greater than it is today?

I'm with you, let's return to living in caves and using crude tools at an attempt to survive to the ripe old age of maybe 30 if you were one of the lucky ones. Many never made it past infancy. One other thing, back then I am pretty sure there were no vaccines for people to grouse about. So there's that.  ::) And even worse.....there was no Google.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Automation on July 01, 2021, 09:59:06 PM
How do you know people did just fine without AC? Maybe, hoards of people died when there was a heatwave of this magnitude? Are you saying life was great 30,000 years ago when the death rate was who knows how much greater than it is today?

I'm with you, let's return to living in caves and using crude tools at an attempt to survive to the ripe old age of maybe 30 if you were one of the lucky ones. Many never made it past infancy. One other thing, back then I am pretty sure there were no vaccines for people to grouse about. So there's that.  ::) And even worse.....there was no Google.  ;D ;D ;D

On the plus side: you would be dead
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: Rascal full on July 01, 2021, 11:55:06 PM
On the plus side: you would be dead

Haha ouch! Oh maybe he would be living one of his past lives, the secret pole-smoker in the tribe who couldn't say anything gay for fear of being killed.

Now we have to put up with an entire month of fooking pride. A whole month! Should be a day at most.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: booty on July 02, 2021, 03:41:57 AM
How do you know people did just fine without AC? Maybe, hoards of people died when there was a heatwave of this magnitude? Are you saying life was great 30,000 years ago when the death rate was who knows how much greater than it is today?

I'm with you, let's return to living in caves and using crude tools at an attempt to survive to the ripe old age of maybe 30 if you were one of the lucky ones. Many never made it past infancy. One other thing, back then I am pretty sure there were no vaccines for people to grouse about. So there's that.  ::) And even worse.....there was no Google.  ;D ;D ;D
We lived fine without air con here in Australia in the 80’s and 90’s. Admittedly you became grumpy and would argue with your family, but nobody died. You need to drink plenty of cold water and wear breathable material clothing. I would even train in the hot humid summers in a gym with no air con. But we had fans and the sides of the walls would open up. You would be drenched from sweating.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: booty on July 02, 2021, 03:45:44 AM
Before COVID, in 2019, tourism in Australia accounted for 3.1% of the national GDP, contributing $60.8 billion to the Australian economy. Look out for an economic downturn on top of whatever has already happened with lock-downs.

Oregon became mostly restriction free today. People were out and about everywhere I went. Most of them were not wearing masks. A local restaurant was packed with people waiting to be seated at 5:00 pm. It is going to be a wild 4th of July weekend, minus any fireworks, which were banned because of the three days of blazing hell temperatures, 117°F or 47°C that literally turned vegetation into a giant dried flower arrangement waiting for a match to blow it up.

The death toll from the those days is currently around 80 people and counting. Heat, like COVID takes out the weak and underprivileged. I just read were a few of those deaths were homeless people. Most were old folks with no air-conditioning or fans. One such person, a woman in her 80's lived in a mobile home. That would be like getting cooked alive inside a tin can.
Our tourism industry is suffering without international tourists. I think the government is happy though because Aussies are spending money in Australia rather than overseas. I do agree though in that we will have a huge economic downturn especially with constant lockdowns. Sydney is probably going to be extended past their 2 week lockdown. It’s not looking too good. Where I am, some areas came out of lockdown except for Brisbane.
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: G_Thang on July 02, 2021, 05:58:40 PM


Mixing Covid jabs

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57636356

FOH!
Title: Re: Better get your vaccinations...oh wait
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 02, 2021, 05:59:34 PM
How do you know people did just fine without AC? Maybe, hoards of people died when there was a heatwave of this magnitude? Are you saying life was great 30,000 years ago when the death rate was who knows how much greater than it is today?

I'm with you, let's return to living in caves and using crude tools at an attempt to survive to the ripe old age of maybe 30 if you were one of the lucky ones. Many never made it past infancy. One other thing, back then I am pretty sure there were no vaccines for people to grouse about. So there's that.  ::) And even worse.....there was no Google.  ;D ;D ;D


Meltdown.