Author Topic: World Bodybuilding Federation (WBF) Championship - 1991 (Read 13024 times)

MCWAY · « **Reply #25 on:** March 15, 2014, 04:16:48 PM »

Quote from: The Scott on March 13, 2014, 09:57:41 PM

Not sure which one clicked on and the briefly watched but in it during their posing routines many of them were behaving like pole dancers. Gross. I'm surprised the schmoes didn't throw dollars on the stage.

If it's the girls in the sauna feeling up DeMey, that's the 1991 show.

If it's Robinson shooting ninjas, it's the 1992 version.

Parker · « **Reply #26 on:** March 15, 2014, 04:21:05 PM »

Quote from: Thick Nick on March 14, 2014, 05:25:48 AM

If Strydom had a good back, the 91 WBF showing would have been the greatest bodybuilding display of all time. No homo. The rest of his physique that was unmatched as far as the size, shape, condition, symmetry, etc. Yates was harder, but not as aesthetic. Ronnie's calves were pathetic and didn't have a very pleasing looking body. Strydom here was a huge Benfatto or Paris... Just with no back. It's a shame.

But he didn't. Just like Nasser. And chances are, just like Nasser, Yates (with arms) would decimate Strydom, and so would Ronnie.
I was ways impressed by Strydom's delts and chest.

MCWAY · « **Reply #27 on:** March 15, 2014, 05:16:07 PM »

Quote from: Parker on March 15, 2014, 04:21:05 PM

But he didn't. Just like Nasser. And chances are, just like Nasser, Yates (with arms) would decimate Strydom, and so would Ronnie.
I was ways impressed by Strydom's delts and chest.

Not in 1991. Ronnie was still an amateur, just winning his class at the Universe when Strydom was WBF Champion.
As for Dorian, he'd just won the 1991 NOC, which Strydom won in 1988 (I think). But, of course that wasn't the Strydom of the early 90s.

Yates was basically Mike Christian with legs. So, the matchup would have been interesting. But, decimating Strydom? I'm not so sure of that.

If back were all it took to beat somebody, Tony Pearson and Mike Christian would have been Mr. Olympia or WBF Champion.

Quote from: njflex on March 13, 2014, 08:34:53 AM

most looked offseason,or 4/5 wks out ifbb condition if we are comparing 'peak'condition.strydom great,demay very close to best,robinson took it seriously cause he turned pro 89 and actually won 90 niagra falls show he could have been great in prime ifbb if he did it 'oh well',Christian was about 85/90 his best,dearth again was a newer pro so he was pretty good,baker actually was smaller than when he won usa's /softer.rest were off as I stated 1st line.

You call this offseason?

Hulkster · « **Reply #28 on:** March 15, 2014, 06:15:42 PM »

Quote from: Thick Nick on March 14, 2014, 05:25:48 AM

If Strydom had a good back, the 91 WBF showing would have been the greatest bodybuilding display of all time. No homo. The rest of his physique that was unmatched as far as the size, shape, condition, symmetry, etc. Yates was harder, but not as aesthetic. Ronnie's calves were pathetic and didn't have a very pleasing looking body. Strydom here was a huge Benfatto or Paris... Just with no back. It's a shame.

but he had no biceps either which hurts him in a million poses.

great legs delts and chest. good abs.

terrible back and no bis to speak of.

ronnie would crush him and so would yates.

MCWAY · « **Reply #29 on:** March 15, 2014, 06:23:33 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on March 15, 2014, 06:15:42 PM

but he had no biceps either which hurts him in a million poses.

great legs delts and chest. good abs.

terrible back and no bis to speak of.

ronnie would crush him and so would yates.

In 1991? Yates....would have been interesting. Coleman? He was still an amateur. So neither one of them could have crushed Strydom then.

njflex · « **Reply #30 on:** March 15, 2014, 07:16:04 PM »

Quote from: MCWAY on March 15, 2014, 04:14:01 PM

Actually, Johnnie Morant competed in the IFBB after turning pro in 1989. He placed 4th at the 1990 Night of Champions, behind Danny Padilla, Dorian Yates, and the late Mohammed Benaziza.

ur right jim quinn won na's with lenda..

njflex · « **Reply #31 on:** March 15, 2014, 07:20:43 PM »

Quote from: MCWAY on March 15, 2014, 05:16:07 PM

Not in 1991. Ronnie was still an amateur, just winning his class at the Universe when Strydom was WBF Champion.
As for Dorian, he'd just won the 1991 NOC, which Strydom won in 1988 (I think). But, of course that wasn't the Strydom of the early 90s.

Yates was basically Mike Christian with legs. So, the matchup would have been interesting. But, decimating Strydom? I'm not so sure of that.

If back were all it took to beat somebody, Tony Pearson and Mike Christian would have been Mr. Olympia or WBF Champion.

You call this offseason?

thats top 5 guys rest.. were soft or smaller than used to seeing...as u stated morant was best in ifbb these shows not,baker too,padilla forget it,mquinn disaster both shows,dearth actually second show he looked better a bit ,baker looked better 2nd show and it was 'tested'.

MCWAY · « **Reply #32 on:** March 15, 2014, 07:23:57 PM »

Quote from: njflex on March 15, 2014, 07:16:04 PM

ur right jim quinn won na's with lenda..

Jim Quinn won the North American in 1990. Johnnie Morant won it in 1989, as did Lenda Murray.

Debbie Muggli won the women's North American title in 1990.

MCWAY · « **Reply #33 on:** March 15, 2014, 07:26:09 PM »

Quote from: njflex on March 15, 2014, 07:20:43 PM

thats top 5 guys rest.. were soft or smaller than used to seeing...as u stated morant was best in ifbb these shows not,baker too,padilla forget it,mquinn disaster both shows,dearth actually second show he looked better a bit ,baker looked better 2nd show and it was 'tested'.

Padilla placed 3rd at the 1990 NOC, actually beating Morant. At the Gold's Classic, he placed 2nd (after a 9-year reprieve) behind future-fellow-WBFer, Eddie Robinson.

Since you mentioned Baker, I've always stated that, if anyone should have been suspected of maybe bucking the test in 1992, it was the "Dark Angel". He was the only one who was actually bigger (and better) in '92 than in '91.

But, how would he do that? Mutiple WBF guys have stated everyone was tested. Christian (though he claimed Strydom was exempt) got popped and fined a month's salary ($25K).

njflex · « **Reply #34 on:** March 15, 2014, 07:29:18 PM »

Quote from: MCWAY on March 15, 2014, 07:26:09 PM

Padilla placed 3rd at the 1990 NOC, actually beating Morant. At the Gold's Classic, he placed 2nd (after a 9-year reprieve) behind future-fellow-WBFer, Eddie Robinson.

danny looked great in 90 so why did he fail to get in shape 91 wfb ?weird.

MCWAY · « **Reply #35 on:** March 15, 2014, 07:31:11 PM »

Quote from: njflex on March 15, 2014, 07:29:18 PM

danny looked great in 90 so why did he fail to get in shape 91 wfb ?weird.

I don't know. He was long in the tooth, as was "Jetman" Tony Pearson.

I thought Pearson got robbed in 1992. He should have made the top 5, instead of David Dearth (pyro guitar and all).

njflex · « **Reply #36 on:** March 15, 2014, 07:41:06 PM »

Quote from: MCWAY on March 15, 2014, 07:31:11 PM

I don't know. He was long in the tooth, as was "Jetman" Tony Pearson.

I thought Pearson got robbed in 1992. He should have made the top 5, instead of David Dearth (pyro guitar and all).

pearson looked great in upper body 92 as was baker smaller but ripped compared to 91 which wasn't tested.ihave those mags still lol...i was demey fan and it was the 1st time you saw the modern bbers late 80's guys or newer pro pale and softer ,true offseason in a mag.

MCWAY · « **Reply #37 on:** March 15, 2014, 07:43:58 PM »

Quote from: njflex on March 15, 2014, 07:41:06 PM

pearson looked great in upper body 92 as was baker smaller but ripped compared to 91 which wasn't tested.ihave those mags still lol...i was demey fan and it was the 1st time you saw the modern bbers late 80's guys or newer pro pale and softer ,true offseason in a mag.

Baker looked bigger to me in '92. Maybe it was his mane tied up that did the trick.

njflex · « **Reply #38 on:** March 15, 2014, 07:46:12 PM »

Quote from: MCWAY on March 15, 2014, 07:43:58 PM

Baker looked bigger to me in '92. Maybe it was his mane tied up that did the trick.

i think cause he was much harder than 91,the guy when he won usa was really good and then by 94/95 ifbb was huge as ever..

MCWAY · « **Reply #39 on:** March 15, 2014, 07:49:48 PM »

Quote from: njflex on March 15, 2014, 07:46:12 PM

i think cause he was much harder than 91,the guy when he won usa was really good and then by 94/95 ifbb was huge as ever..

Here's Baker in 1992 (at 1:05:21)

And here's Baker in 1991 (at 14:44)

Parker · « **Reply #40 on:** March 15, 2014, 10:17:23 PM »

Quote from: MCWAY on March 15, 2014, 05:16:07 PM

Not in 1991. Ronnie was still an amateur, just winning his class at the Universe when Strydom was WBF Champion.
As for Dorian, he'd just won the 1991 NOC, which Strydom won in 1988 (I think). But, of course that wasn't the Strydom of the early 90s.

Yates was basically Mike Christian with legs. So, the matchup would have been interesting. But, decimating Strydom? I'm not so sure of that.

If back were all it took to beat somebody, Tony Pearson and Mike Christian would have been Mr. Olympia or WBF Champion.

You call this offseason?

I'm talking about in the respective time periods--the Yatesian Era and Coleman Era.