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Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« on: October 29, 2014, 09:31:01 AM »
Says god isnt a magician.  :D

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2014, 09:34:03 AM »
Says god isnt a magician.  :D

No no, animals follow after there kind, noah's ark is real and what happened before the big bang? who made it bang?

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2014, 09:37:19 AM »
Even the pope is keeping it real.


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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2014, 09:38:32 AM »
I like to see this.

I would like to have kids and raise them catholic.

That being said they'd have to do alot to get with the times.


They should start teaching actual philosophy as part of their mass.

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2014, 09:38:43 AM »
Does he even lift?

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2014, 10:41:48 AM »
Popes been watching Dawkins on utube..

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2014, 10:42:40 AM »
I thought the Vatican have been saying this for years.

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2014, 10:57:31 AM »
I thought the Vatican have been saying this for years.
For a few years they've been hinting at at. Or at least I think they have.

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2014, 11:07:26 AM »
Full article here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/10/28/pope-francis-backs-theory-of-evolution-says-god-is-no-wizard/


Delivering an address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, Pope Francis continued his habit of making provocative, seemingly progressive statements. The pontiff appeared to endorse the theory of the Big Bang and told the gathering at the Vatican that there was no contradiction between believing in God as well as the prevailing scientific theories regarding the expansion of our universe.


“When we read about creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so,” Francis said. “He created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfillment.”


The pope avoids gesturing at the thorny issue (at least for some Christians) of whether humans descended from apes. Atheists argue, moreover, that understanding the Big Bang and what emerged from that cosmic moment obviates a need to believe in a deity. On that count, Francis obviously disagrees. He repeated the idea of God not being a “magician,” an entity that conjured all into being.


“God is not... a magician, but the Creator who brought everything to life,” Francis said. “Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.”


In other words, to borrow from an earlier Enlightenment idea, God is more a clockmaker than a conjurer of miracles.

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2014, 11:10:49 AM »
Big hitter, the Pope.  Very long off the tee.

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2014, 11:11:35 AM »
Congrats. The Church's teachings have been compatible with evolution since an encyclical in the 50's. Nice of everybody to be shocked, tho.

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2014, 11:12:17 AM »
It's funny that the most powerful Christian leader on earth, says that god is neither a wizard or magician.

Thats strange, I thought that is exactly what he is supposed to be.  ???

Isn't he the one who "snapped his fingers" and created the universe, and everything in it?

The Vatican is not stupid. They notice that it is harder and harder to pass off fairytales to a more progressive society.


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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2014, 11:17:00 AM »
Says god isnt a magician.  :D

Catholic is nothing but a business it has nothing to do with god most of what they do goes against the principles of the bible, so what the pope says is irrelevant unless you are a sheep. 

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2014, 11:18:28 AM »
i'm an agnostic who celebrates the bells and whistles of Christmas (my wife's Catholic) and I applaud Pope Francis for trying to bring a wee bit of a common sense to the Catholic Church.

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2014, 11:19:20 AM »
It's funny that the most powerful Christian leader on earth, says that god is neither a wizard or magician.

Thats strange, I thought that is exactly what he is supposed to be.  ???

Isn't he the one who "snapped his fingers" and created the universe, and everything in it?

The Vatican is not stupid. They notice that it is harder and harder to pass off fairytales to a more progressive society.



Nothing the pope has said is new teaching or at odds with current thinking at the Vatican. It's just the non-Catholic rubes that love to think that the Church is still stuck in the 1500's.

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2014, 11:20:47 AM »
With all of this backpedaling from the church, they might have to revise the bible (again) in the near future.

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2014, 11:23:31 AM »
With all of this backpedaling from the church, they might have to revise the bible (again) in the near future.

Sigh. This time the troll was too obvious. Checking out of this thread.

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2014, 11:25:02 AM »
Nothing the pope has said is new teaching or at odds with current thinking at the Vatican. It's just the non-Catholic rubes that love to think that the Church is still stuck in the 1500's.
Ofcourse it isn't stuck in the 1500's or even the 1800's. The advancements of science (the Vatican has its own scientists)  has forced them to change the way they think.

The archaic views of the past simply won't work today.

Unfortunately, you still have millions upon millions of people who still believe in the old world teachings.

They scoff at discoveries such as the big bang and evolution.

The pope is basically telling these people to "evolve"  ;D

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« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2014, 11:26:25 AM »
Big bang and evolution is a bunch of garbage that comes from the human desire to know shit but the fact is they dont know shit, all these dumbass scientist have is a bunch of theories that they keep changing every month with a bunch of dumbfucks following behind them eating up their stupid words.

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2014, 11:26:34 AM »
Ofcourse it isn't stuck in the 1500's or even the 1800's. The advancements of science (the Vatican has its own scientists)  has forced them to change the way they think.

The archaic views of the past simply won't work today.

Unfortunately, you still have millions upon millions of people who still believe in the old world teachings.

They scoff at discoveries such as the big bang and evolution.

The pope is basically telling these people to "evolve"  ;D
so what's your excuse?

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2014, 11:28:47 AM »
Sigh. This time the troll was too obvious. Checking out of this thread.
Not trolling at all.

Hell, 1,000 years from now, the Christian God might be viewed in the same light as Zeus.

How many people believe in Zeus today?

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2014, 11:30:52 AM »
To me, Pope Francis is to Roman Catholicism what Joel Osteen is to Christianity.  Both appear to love God, but I can't help but feel they love pleasing people even more.

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2014, 11:32:12 AM »
America is one of the most immoral countries in the world spreading their disgusting lifestyle to the rest of the planet that is what pisses off the muslims, humans want to give into temptation and live the dirty lifestyle of alcohol, sex with strangers etc like sodom and gomorrah and they want the church to go along with it claiming morals are outdated so they can feel better about their disgusting selves.

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2014, 11:33:58 AM »
Big bang and evolution is a bunch of garbage that comes from the human desire to know shit but the fact is they dont know shit, all these dumbass scientist have is a bunch of theories that they keep changing every month with a bunch of dumbfucks following behind them eating up their stupid words.

Says the highschool dropout.

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Re: Pope Francis: Big Bang and evolution are real.
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2014, 11:36:01 AM »
Its 2014 stop believing in some invisible man in the sky and do something constructive.