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Wayne Tracker:
--- Quote from: Humble Narcissist on March 18, 2023, 01:13:59 AM ---This is really going down a dangerous path. Arresting your political opponents will not end well. This is Banana Republic shit.
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I disagree
This is actually a very good thing for the country because it shows that nobody is above the law.
Anyone else who has done all the things that Trump has done (and we've all seen and heard most if it ourselves) would have already been indicted and convicted.
Justice is moving very slowly only because he is a former POTUS....but justice is finally coming
The indictment in NYC is just the appetizer. Georgia will be the first course and the Special Counsel investigations will be the main course
It's been a long time coming for a life long con-man and criminal
BTW - this country has convicted a former VP of a felony (he got off with a slap on the wrist) and we also convicted a former AG who actually went to prison so I don't see why we can't convict a lifelong criminal who also just happened to be POTUS
--- Quote ---Watergate Casualties and Convictions
In the aftermath of Richard Nixon’s resignation, Watergate continued to claim victims.
The final toll included:
one presidential resignation
one vice-presidential resignation – although Agnew’s crimes were unrelated to Watergate
40 government officials indicted or jailed
H.R. Haldeman and John Erlichman (White House staff), resigned 30 April 1973, subsequently jailed
John Dean (White House legal counsel), sacked 30 April 1973, subsequently jailed
John Mitchell, Attorney-General and Chairman of the Committee to Re-elect the President (CREEP), jailed
Howard Hunt and G. Gordon Liddy (ex-White House staff), planned the Watergate break-in, both jailed
Charles Colson, special counsel to the President, jailed
James McCord (Security Director of CREEP), jailed
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--- Quote ---"By the end of his term, 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. In terms of number of officials involved, the record of his administration was the worst ever."
1. Lyn guy--White House Press Secretary - Convicted on charges of illegal lobbying of White House in Wedtech scandal. The lobbying would not have been illegal had he not been White House Press Secretary.
2. Michael Deaver, Reagan's Chief of Staff, received three years' probation and was fined one hundred thousand dollars after being convicted for lying to a congressional subcommittee and a federal grand jury about his lobbying activities after leaving the White House. Same as with Lyn guy.
3. James Watt, Reagan's Secretary of the Interior was indicted on 41 felony counts for using connections at the Department of Housing and Urban Development to help his private clients seek federal funds for housing projects in Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. Watt conceded that he had received $500,000 from clients who were granted very favorable housing contracts after he had intervened on their behalf. Watt was eventually sentenced to five years in prison and 500 hours of community service.
4. John Poindexter, Reagan's national security advisor, guilty of five criminal counts involving conspiracy to mislead Congress, obstructing congressional inquiries, lying to lawmakers, used "high national security" to mask deceit and wrong-doing...
5. Richard Secord pleaded guilty to a felony charge of lying to Congress over Iran-Contra. Appointed by William Casey to assist Oliver North.
6. Elliott Abrams was appointed by President Reagan in 1985 to head the State Department's Latin American Bureau. He was closely linked with ex-White House aide Lt. Col. Oliver North's covert movement to aid the Contras. Working for North, Abrams coordinated inter-agency support for the contras and helped solicit illegal funding from foreign powers as well as domestic contributors. Abrams agreed to cooperate with Iran-Contra investigators and pled guilty to two charges reduced to misdemeanors. He was sentenced in 1991 to two years probation and 100 hours of community service but was pardoned by President George Bush...
7. Robert C. McFarlane, Reagan's National Security Advisor, pled guilty to four misdemeanors and was sentenced to two years probation and 200 hours of community service. He was also fined $20,000. He received a blanket pardon from President George Bush...
8. Alan D. Fiers was the Chief of the Central Intelligence Agency's Central American Task Force. Fiers pled guilty in 1991 to two counts of withholding information from congress about Oliver North's activities and the diversion of Iran arms sale money to aid the Contras. He was sentenced to one year of probation and 100 hours of community service. Alan Fiers received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President Bush...
Thomas G. Clines: convicted of four counts of tax-related offenses for failing to report income from the operations;
Carl R. Channel - Office of Public Diplomacy , partner in International Business- first person convicted in the Iran/Contra scandal, pleaded guilty of one count of defrauding the United States
Richard R. Miller - Partner with Oliver North in IBC, a Office of Public Diplomacy front group, convicted of conspiracy to defraud the United States.
Frank Gomez
13.. Donald Fortier
Clair George was Chief of the CIA's Division of Covert Operations under President Reagan. George was convicted of lying to two congressional committees in 1986. George faced a maximum five year federal prison sentence and a $20,000 fine for each of the two convictions. Jurors cleared George of five other charges including two counts of lying to a federal grand jury. Clair George received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President George Bush...
Rita Lavelle was indicted, tried and convicted of lying to Congress and served three months of a six-month prison sentence.
Philip Winn - Assistant HUD Secretary. Pleaded guilty to one count of scheming to give illegal gratuities.
Thomas Demery - Assistand HUD Secretary - pleaded guilty to steering HUD subsidies to politically connected donors.
Deborah Gore Dean - executive assistant to Samuel Pierce - indicted on thirteen counts, three counts of conspiracy, one count of accepting an illegal gratuity, four counts of perjury, and five counts of concealing articles. She was convicted on twelve accounts. She appealed and prevailed on several accounts but the convictions for conspiracy remained.
Catalina Villaponda - Former US Treasurer
Joseph A. Strauss - Accepting kickbacks from developers
Oliver North - He was indicted on sixteen felony counts and on May 4, 1989, he was convicted of three: accepting an illegal gratuity, aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry, and destruction of documents (by his secretary, Fawn Hall, on his instructions). He was sentenced by U.S. District Judge Gerhard A. Gesell on July 5, 1989, to a three-year suspended prison term, two years probation, $150,000 in fines, and 1,200 hours community service. His conviction was later overturned.
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loco:
--- Quote from: Humble Narcissist on March 18, 2023, 01:13:59 AM ---This is really going down a dangerous path. Arresting your political opponents will not end well. This is Banana Republic shit.
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Agreed.
Primemuscle:
--- Quote from: Coach is Back! on March 17, 2023, 07:22:53 PM ---This is simple. I know you didn't watch any of the trial, I watched it all. But in short, In Schiff for brains fashion, he altered evidence like he did in the J6 show trial but even more, it took the prosecution I believe something like 23-26hrs to make their case while it only took the defense 12 to completely destroy it. It's that simple.
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This is simple. You don't know whether I watched any of Trump's second impeachment trial in the Senate.
Senator Rand Paul forced a vote to dismiss the impeachment charge on the basis that it was unconstitutional which defeated in the 54-45 vote. Five Republicans sided with Democrats in that vote. Seven Republican senators joined all Democratic and independent senators in voting to convict Trump which fell short of the 2/3 Senate vote required by 10 votes.
Numerous prominent law firms had refused to represent Trump. Yes, the Senate trial was something of a clown show thanks to Trump and his attorneys. Trump, (the wannabee lawyer without a law degree but a lifetime of experience with the court system due to his endless lawsuits) initially hired Butch Bowers and Deborah Barbier to represent him, but they quit along with three other lawyers after "the former president demanded the lawyers representing him to focus on his allegations of mass election fraud" and his false claim that "the election was stolen from him."
Trump's defense was led by Michael van der Veen, a personal injury lawyer. Van der Veen's style and substance during the trial drew ridicule and criticism from many, with gasps and laughter in the Senate when he stated that he would seek to depose at least 100 people at his Philadelphia office, including Speaker of the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi and Vice President Kamala Harris. When I watched his ridiculous performance, I laughed as well.
The reason Trump was acquitted is because Republicans were the Senate majority and because they were too wimpy to stand up for what was right by voting accordingly. Interestingly though, some Republicans have since spoken out against Trump and his actions on January 6th.
Senator Mitch McConnell stated, “The mob was fed lies. They were provoked by the president and other powerful people.” More recently he said, “The entire nation knows who is responsible for that day,” pointing the finger squarely at Trump in response to the House Jan. 6 committee referring four criminal charges against Trump to the Justice Department. One by one Republican leadership will reject Trump.
LurkerNoMore:
--- Quote from: Primemuscle on March 18, 2023, 01:51:39 PM ---This is simple. You don't know whether I watched any of Trump's second impeachment trial in the Senate.
Senator Rand Paul forced a vote to dismiss the impeachment charge on the basis that it was unconstitutional which defeated in the 54-45 vote. Five Republicans sided with Democrats in that vote. Seven Republican senators joined all Democratic and independent senators in voting to convict Trump which fell short of the 2/3 Senate vote required by 10 votes.
Numerous prominent law firms had refused to represent Trump. Yes, the Senate trial was something of a clown show thanks to Trump and his attorneys. Trump, (the wannabee lawyer without a law degree but a lifetime of experience with the court system due to his endless lawsuits) initially hired Butch Bowers and Deborah Barbier to represent him, but they quit along with three other lawyers after "the former president demanded the lawyers representing him to focus on his allegations of mass election fraud" and his false claim that "the election was stolen from him."
Trump's defense was led by Michael van der Veen, a personal injury lawyer. Van der Veen's style and substance during the trial drew ridicule and criticism from many, with gasps and laughter in the Senate when he stated that he would seek to depose at least 100 people at his Philadelphia office, including Speaker of the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi and Vice President Kamala Harris. When I watched his ridiculous performance, I laughed as well.
The reason Trump was acquitted is because Republicans were the Senate majority and because they were too wimpy to stand up for what was right by voting accordingly. Interestingly though, some Republicans have since spoken out against Trump and his actions on January 6th.
Senator Mitch McConnell stated, “The mob was fed lies. They were provoked by the president and other powerful people.” More recently he said, “The entire nation knows who is responsible for that day,” pointing the finger squarely at Trump in response to the House Jan. 6 committee referring four criminal charges against Trump to the Justice Department. One by one Republican leadership will reject Trump.
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Qoach is immune to facts and reality. Get ready for his usual “lol… oh boy” or “yeah right” response to this because that empty noggin can’t come up with anything else.
Just look at the number of personal attorneys that are ruined now because they accepted Trumpy as a client. Look at the number that rejected him. Nobody wants a client that has a history of not paying, lying constantly and ignoring their advice.
I mean this is an idiot that tried to pay his attorney bills in the past with a horse.
chaos:
--- Quote from: Humble Narcissist on March 18, 2023, 01:13:59 AM ---This is really going down a dangerous path. Arresting your political opponents will not end well. This is Banana Republic shit.
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We would invade an oil rich country that did something like this. Sets a bad precedence.
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