PBW Radio Presents "Magazine Wars" 09-11-06 --> Reply is now available...

[dknole]

What is pathetic is that Chick and/or Shawn have no clue how to run a magazine, how to obtain quality content for the magazine and add to that have the audacity to criticize MD for changing formats over the years. Not only do these small-minded folk not understand the influence of being a public company (when Twinlab owned MD, before Steve Blechman bought the publishing arm of Twinlab), but they also do not acknolwedge the fact that there "own" Muscle and Fitness and Flex also have changed formats and content since AMI bought it as well as over the years. If you remember, back when Muscle Media was up and coming, it rankled Joe Weider and he had Flex try to be more edgy (never cam close) while adding some science to MnF (which in academia is known as Muscle and Fiction).

So, here we have AMI/Weider Publishing lackees bashing John R and MD AFTER John is not on the internet radio show...wow, so smooth there boys. Man-up and note that the more magazines that cover the Olympia and promote the BB's, the better chance that the BB's can make some money and have a career.

[YoMamaBeenLurking]

dknole, agreed.  Why would Bob and Shawn keep referencing whipped cream, naked chicks, and overt sexual content in MD?  Was'nt that shit like 4 years ago or something?  Talk about coming onto the show with an agenda to try to take some steam out of MD.  Once Romano was gone the show became nothing more than more AMI bullshit.  This is getting old. 

[dknole]

dknole, agreed.  Why would Bob and Shawn keep referencing whipped cream, naked chicks, and overt sexual content in MD?  Was'nt that shit like 4 years ago or something?  Talk about coming onto the show with an agenda to try to take some steam out of MD.  Once Romano was gone the show became nothing more than more AMI bullshit.  This is getting old. 

Should we expect anything different from two gents that made/make their livelyhood off of Weider/IFBB/AMI? What are they going to do next year when Ben Weider owns the Olympia again and sells the marketing rights to MD or Muscletech?

[the shadow]

dman shawn ray really justifies wat ever he says..he is one of those pros who have logic in almost each and every statement he makes.this guy is wat bodybuilding wants.he is a true IFBB rep along with the great bob chick

[getfast81]

What did anybody expect?  Everytime anyone gets riled up for PBW they get let down.  When King came all he rambled about was suing people, blah blah blah, instead of what he said he was going to do (bring Shawn Ray out).  Lets think about it for a second.  These are two magazines!!!!!!!  I got amped up about it a week or so ago but when I came back to earth I thought "Who really cares?".  I mean MD is ad after ad after ad.  Palumbo telling idiot fans how to ruin they're physique and health and a couple mediocre articles from athletes talking the same bullshit they said last year around Olympia time. "Eating clean, dialed in, on schedule." 

Flex is worse.  Whoever they're recently signed athlete is, is shoved down our throat for 8 months leading up to the O.  Then they actually print odds on who will win, is there any question anyway?  In closing who cares?  If the magazines arent competing to make the product any better than shut the fuck up.

[YoMamaBeenLurking]

If not for "the magazines" how do you think bodybuilding would have gotten as far as it has today?  there was no internet when the Weiders began.  So now because the net is here, suddenly print should be discounted as having no merit?  Wrong.  The net may be getting info out faster etc., but for the time being there is still a place for magazines. 

As far as the editorial slant of Flex and MD, they both put out a product that they believe will sell...Remember, they are in BUSINESS here.  Just because you do not appreciate the article content they have does not mean that everyone feels the same way.  If that was the case, then the mags would have no sales, zero ad dollar support and would find themselves out of business. 

[G o a t b o y]

If not for "the magazines" how do you think bodybuilding would have gotten as far as it has today?  there was no internet when the Weiders began.  So now because the net is here, suddenly print should be discounted as having no merit?  Wrong.  The net may be getting info out faster etc., but for the time being there is still a place for magazines. 

Yeah, their place is redundancy, obsolescence, and the reporting of 2-month-old "news".

In 2006, a paper magazine is about as useful as a buggy whip.

[YoMamaBeenLurking]

Yeah, their place is redundancy, obsolescence, and the reporting of 2-month-old "news".

In 2006, a paper magazine is about as useful as a buggy whip.

Because "Goatboy" said so 

[G o a t b o y]

Because "Goatboy" said so 

And if  G o a t b o y  says so, you can count on it being true.

Hope this helps. 

[YoMamaBeenLurking]

And if  G o a t b o y  says so, you can count on it being true.

Hope this helps. 

Actually it's no help at all.   

[dearth]

Bob, that was really awesome how you had the scoop all along on the Don Long scoop.  Question though - why did you deny it for four days and mock those who posted it (um, me), then when FLEXonline pwned you like a crackhead's VCR, you disappeared for 4 days?

Was the part of the master plan?  if so, good work champ!

You don'texpect Bob to actually admit he was wrong
or that he made a complete ass of himself, do you?

[G o a t b o y]

You don'texpect Bob to actually admit he was wrong
or that he made a complete ass of himself, do you?

He's wrong so much, and makes a complete ass of himself so often, that if he admitted it every time it occurred, he'd have nothing to say but negative things about himself. People would think he had no self-esteem at all.