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U.S. finally admits Arafat murdered American officials
« on: December 28, 2006, 02:45:50 AM »
Check this article:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53513

This is a man who was given the nobel peace prize.

I heard lil'old Arafat used to enjoy getting his boogey on with men.

Just somes facts, Arafat was a muslim. As a muslim he was a member of the "Muslim Brotherhood", a world-wide islamist organisation.

He surely was a prime target for a peace prize.
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Re: U.S. finally admits Arafat murdered American officials
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2006, 03:12:09 AM »
Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations
By RICHARD SALE
UPI Intelligence Correspondent

Israel is embarking upon a more aggressive approach to the war on terror that will include staging targeted killings in the United States and other friendly countries, former Israeli intelligence officials told United Press International.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has forbidden the practice until now, these sources said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The Israeli statements were confirmed by more than a half dozen former and currently serving U.S. foreign policy and intelligence officials in interviews with United Press International.

But an official at the Israeli Embassy in Washington told UPI: "That is rubbish. It is completely untrue. Israel and the United States have such a close and co-operative intelligence relationship, especially in the field of counter-terrorism, that the assertion is ludicrous."

With the appointment of Meir Dagan, the new director of Israel's Mossad secret intelligence service, Sharon is preparing "a huge budget" increase for the spy agency as part of "a tougher stance in fighting global jihad (or holy war)," one Israeli official said.

Since Sharon became Israeli prime minister, Tel Aviv has mainly limited its practice of targeted killings to the West Bank and Gaza because "no one wanted such operations on their territory," a former Israeli intelligence official said.

Another former Israeli government official said that under Sharon, "diplomatic constraints have prevented the Mossad from carrying out 'preventive operations' (targeted killings) on the soil of friendly countries until now."

He said Sharon is "reversing that policy, even if it risks complications to Israel's bilateral relations."

A former Israeli military intelligence source agreed: "What Sharon wants is a much more extensive and tough approach to global terrorism, and this includes greater operational maneuverability."

Does this mean assassinations on the soil of allies?

"It does," he said.

"Mossad is definitely being beefed up," a U.S. government official said of the Israeli agency's budget increase. He declined to comment on the Tel Aviv's geographic expansion of targeted killings.

An FBI spokesman also declined to comment, saying: "This is a policy matter. We only enforce federal laws."

A congressional staff member with deep knowledge of intelligence matters said, "I don't know on what basis we would be able to protest Israel's actions." He referred to the recent killing of Qaed Salim Sinan al Harethi, a top al Qaida leader, in Yemen by a remotely controlled CIA drone.

"That was done on the soil of a friendly ally," the staffer said.

But the complications posed by Israel's new policy are real.

"Israel does not have a good record at doing this sort of thing," said former CIA counter-terrorism official Larry Johnson.

He cited the 1997 fiasco where two Mossad agents were captured after they tried to assassinate Khaled Mashaal, a Hamas political leader, by injecting him with poison.

According to Johnson, the attempt, made in Amman, Jordan, caused a political crisis in Israeli-Jordan relations. In addition, because the Israeli agents carried Canadian passports, Canada withdrew its ambassador in protest, he said. Jordan is one of two Arab nations to recognize Israel. The other is Egypt.

At the time, Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said, "I have no intention of stopping the activities of this government against terror," according to a CNN report.

Former CIA officials say Israel was forced to free jailed Hamas founder Sheikh Ahmad Yassin and 70 other Jordanian and Palestinian prisoner being held in Israeli jails to secure the release of the two would-be Mossad assassins.

Phil Stoddard, former director of the Middle East Institute, cited a botched plot to kill Ali Hassan Salemeh, the mastermind of the 1972 Munich Olympics massacre. The 1974 attempt severely embarrassed Mossad when the Israeli hit team mistakenly assassinated a Moroccan waiter in Lillehammer, Norway.

Salemeh, later a CIA asset, was killed in Beirut, Lebanon, in 1976 by a car bomb placed by an Israeli assassination team, former U.S. intelligence officials said.

"Israel knew Salemeh was providing us with preventive intelligence on the Palestinians and his being killed pissed off a lot of people," said a former senior CIA official.

But some Israeli operations have been successful.

Gerald Bull, an Ontario-born U.S. citizen and designer of the Iraqi supergun -- a massive artillery system capable of launching satellites into orbit, and of delivering nuclear chemical or biological payloads from Baghdad to Israel -- was killed in Belgium in March 1990. The killing is still unsolved, but former CIA officials said a Mossad hit team is the most likely suspect.

Bull worked on the supergun design -- codenamed Project Babylon -- for 10 years, and helped the Iraqis develop many smaller artillery systems. He was found with five bullets in his head outside his Brussels apartment.

Israeli hit teams, which consist of units or squadrons of the Kidon, a sub-unit for Mossad's highly secret Metsada department, would stage the operations, former Israeli intelligence sources said. Kidon is a Hebrew word meaning "bayonet," one former Israeli intelligence source said.

This Israeli government source explained that in the past Israel has not staged targeted killings in friendly countries because "no one wanted such operations on their territory."

This has become irrelevant, he said.

Dagan, the new hard-driving director of Mossad, will implement the new changes, former Israeli government officials said.

Dagan, nicknamed "the gun," was Sharon's adviser on counter-terrorism during the government of Netanyahu in 1996, former Israeli government officials say. A former military man, Dagan has also undertaken extremely sensitive diplomatic missions for several of Israel's prime ministers, former Israeli government sources said.

Former Israel Defense Forces Lt. Col. Gal Luft, who served under Dagan, described him as an "extremely creative individual -- creative to the point of recklessness."

A former CIA official who knows Dagan said the new Mossad director knows "his foreign affairs inside and out," and has a "real killer instinct."

Dagan is also "an intelligence natural" who has "a superb analyst not afraid to act on gut instinct," the former CIA official said.

Dagan has already removed Mossad officials whom he regards as "being too conservative or too cautious" and is building up "a constituency of senior people of the same mentality," one former long-time Israeli operative said.

Dagan is also urging that Mossad operatives rely less on secret sources and rely more on open information that is so plentifully provided on the Internet and newspapers.

"It's a cultural thing," one former Israeli intelligence operative explained. "Mossad in the past has put its emphasis on Humint (human intelligence) and secret operations and has neglected the whole field of open media, which has become extremely important."



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Re: U.S. finally admits Arafat murdered American officials
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2006, 03:54:41 AM »
Berserker, you're a mod here now, maybe you should know the rules of engagement in good political debate?

I'm the opener of this thread, why don't you discuss my post?

Instead of doing that you're just drawing comparisons with Israel to Arafat, whilst giving no real input from your personal opinion of my post.

You're turning into the male version of Jag.
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Re: U.S. finally admits Arafat murdered American officials
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2006, 04:30:42 AM »
The information I posted was for the purpose of counter to your post... I saw your information and thougth that this information should be considered or not forgotten in relation to your posted info... IT IS THEREFOR DISCUSSION...  The rules are there are no rules aside from no beheading vids and topics must be political, be fucking happy I don't follow you around like Beach follows 240 in an attempt to sabotage his every post with nothing but smart ass comments... I at least for the most part contribute to the debate and if you don't understand how this shit pertains to your post, that's your bust, not mine.  If Arafat authorized assassinations of Americas, he was flat out wrong and anyone doing this should die for doing it... Now I posted this info because Israel has policy that gives them the green light to do what you're saying Arafat did.  It pertains to the topic, now pissoff. :D

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Re: U.S. finally admits Arafat murdered American officials
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2006, 04:37:32 AM »
The information I posted was for the purpose of counter to your post... I saw your information and thougth that this information should be considered or not forgotten in relation to your posted info... IT IS THEREFOR DISCUSSION...  The rules are there are no rules aside from no beheading vids and topics must be political, be fucking happy I don't follow you around like Beach follows 240 in an attempt to sabotage his every post with nothing but smart ass comments... I at least for the most part contribute to the debate and if you don't understand how this shit pertains to your post, that's your bust, not mine.  If Arafat authorized assassinations of Americas, he was flat out wrong and anyone doing this should die for doing it... Now I posted this info because Israel has policy that gives them the green light to do what you're saying Arafat did.  It pertains to the topic, now pissoff. :D

Hmm, I saw the counter and commented on it. See my post.

You didn't contribute anything to the post other than some copy & pastes.

You're pointing finger, e.g. "if israel can do it, then what's wrong with arafat doing it."

Note my points in the original post, Arafat plotted the murder of Americans, and was an islamist (educate yourself on the topic if you don't see islamists as a negative), yet he was awarded a nobel peace prize.
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Re: U.S. finally admits Arafat murdered American officials
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2006, 04:47:05 AM »
Hmm, I saw the counter and commented on it. See my post.

You didn't contribute anything to the post other than some copy & pastes.

You're pointing finger, e.g. "if israel can do it, then what's wrong with arafat doing it."
Note my points in the original post, Arafat plotted the murder of Americans, and was an islamist (educate yourself on the topic if you don't see islamists as a negative), yet he was awarded a nobel peace prize.
No IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WAS SAYING, ISRAEL DOES IT TOO/POLICY WISE DON'T FORGET ABOUT THEM...  ::) I at least admit they're both wrong... Seems you want to be an Israeli guy as usual.  You're probably saying Arafat was wrong but Israeli policy is kosher ::)

ps...  If ANYONE wants to copy and paste information they feel is of value to a topic, they are fucking free to do so... Intimidating people from bringing info to this forum is stupid...

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Re: U.S. finally admits Arafat murdered American officials
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2006, 05:11:24 AM »
No IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WAS SAYING, ISRAEL DOES IT TOO/POLICY WISE DON'T FORGET ABOUT THEM...  ::) I at least admit they're both wrong... Seems you want to be an Israeli guy as usual.  You're probably saying Arafat was wrong but Israeli policy is kosher ::)

ps...  If ANYONE wants to copy and paste information they feel is of value to a topic, they are fucking free to do so... Intimidating people from bringing info to this forum is stupid...

The israeli policy isn't perfect. When did I say it was? ???

Mr. Jag, note my ORIGINAL POST, my ORIGINAL POINTS and debate them.

Truly, sir, you are half wit!
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Re: U.S. finally admits Arafat murdered American officials
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2006, 05:17:34 AM »
The israeli policy isn't perfect. ::) When did I say it was? ???

Mr. Jag, note my ORIGINAL POST, my ORIGINAL POINTS and debate them.

Truly, sir, you are half wit!
Why do you always try to twist what I say in a sad attempt not to look like a twit :-\

So do you condem both Israel and Arafat on the issue of targeting Americans... Israel for it's policy and Arafat for killing Americans?  I do... Do you? 

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Re: U.S. finally admits Arafat murdered American officials
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2006, 08:16:05 AM »
Why do you always try to twist what I say in a sad attempt not to look like a twit :-\

So do you condem both Israel and Arafat on the issue of targeting Americans... Israel for it's policy and Arafat for killing Americans?  I do... Do you? 

haha you tied up nodicksuperman there. Watch him call you names like "mr. jag"  ::)

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Re: U.S. finally admits Arafat murdered American officials
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2006, 10:48:04 AM »
Why do you always try to twist what I say in a sad attempt not to look like a twit :-\

So do you condemn both Israel and Arafat on the issue of targeting Americans... Israel for it's policy and Arafat for killing Americans?  I do... Do you? 

Are you an idiot? Seriously, how stupid do you think I am? You're only insulting yourself you assclown.

Of course I condemn Israel for doing anything along those lines. If it was a Brit killed by Israeli forces in such a scenario I would expect them to feel the full force of their actions, same as with an American or anyone else. Even a muzzie if their engagement is illegal.

Honestly, how fucking ridiculous is your impression of me? Do you think I'm a Zionist? I've always said Israel is the lesser of two evils - nothing more, and indeed I do believe the Israeli state is justified and should not be dissolved. You can look up posts to see me say EXACTLY that, nothing else, nothing along the lines of giving the Israelis free reign to do whatever they please.
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Re: U.S. finally admits Arafat murdered American officials
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2006, 11:12:48 AM »
Are you an idiot? Seriously, how stupid do you think I am? You're only insulting yourself you assclown.

Of course I condemn Israel for doing anything along those lines. If it was a Brit killed by Israeli forces in such a scenario I would expect them to feel the full force of their actions, same as with an American or anyone else. Even a muzzie if their engagement is illegal.

Honestly, how fucking ridiculous is your impression of me? Do you think I'm a Zionist? I've always said Israel is the lesser of two evils - nothing more, and indeed I do believe the Israeli state is justified and should not be dissolved. You can look up posts to see me say EXACTLY that, nothing else, nothing along the lines of giving the Israelis free reign to do whatever they please.
Then what is your bitch with me retard?... I'm not siding with Arafat, I just provided Israeli policy material and other information that should not be left out of this issue due to the Palestinian/Israeli conflict.  So buck rogers, what IS your bitch huh?  I think you are the idiot for demanding I argue something I don't disagree with. ::) You're the one that ASSumed AGAIN that I did.  Why the f**k would I be for Arafat killing Americans ::)

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Re: U.S. finally admits Arafat murdered American officials
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2006, 11:37:07 AM »
Then what is your bitch with me retard?... I'm not siding with Arafat, I just provided Israeli policy material and other information that should not be left out of this issue due to the Palestinian/Israeli conflict.  So buck rogers, what IS your bitch huh?  I think you are the idiot for demanding I argue something I don't disagree with. ::) You're the one that ASSumed AGAIN that I did.  Why the f**k would I be for Arafat killing Americans ::)

I've explained my points.

You are clearly the product of a molested childhood :-X

What exactly did daddy do to you?
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Re: U.S. finally admits Arafat murdered American officials
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2006, 02:37:06 AM »
What experience/training in this area do you have which gives you the ability to diagnose?

lol :D
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Re: U.S. finally admits Arafat murdered American officials
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« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2006, 12:02:56 PM »
left yourself open again :P

Your mother left herself open. Just ask the kids from the hood!
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