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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #50 on: April 06, 2009, 03:48:02 PM »
Yep and it fell apart 40 secinds after launch...and its 2009 and Bush isn't president. u guys need to get past Bush. Barry did nothing.
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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #51 on: April 06, 2009, 03:48:43 PM »
Tell me HH6.... did N. korea not test on 10-9-06????

they set off a nuke then, didn't they?

How did Bush react?  Bribe them with a million barrels of oil to stop it?

Barry did nothing, but at least he didn't bribe them

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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #52 on: April 06, 2009, 03:50:47 PM »
Yeah 240....he continued a program started under ur hero Bill Clinton that got us in this postion in the first place.
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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #53 on: April 06, 2009, 03:52:49 PM »
U realize Bush isn't president. Barry ran on changing the world..so far he can't get Europe to send troops to Afghanistan, he can't stop the Russians, who did nothing with Bush around....he can't get anybody to do anything and he bad mouths the US every time he goes someplace.
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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #54 on: April 06, 2009, 03:59:39 PM »
So I guess because Bush "bribed" nKorea...its ok for Barry the useless...to whine to the UN and then do nothing.


Prior to North Korea's launch yesterday of a Taepodong-2 ballistic missile, President Barack Obama declared that such an action would be "provocative." This public statement was an attempt to reinforce the administration's private efforts to urge the Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea (DPRK) not to fire the missile.

 
APThat effort failed, as have countless other attempts to deal softly with Pyongyang. Incredibly, U.S. Special Envoy for North Korea Stephen Bosworth revealed -- just a few days before the launch -- that he was ready to visit Pyongyang and resume the six-party talks once the "dust from the missiles settles." It is no wonder the North fired away.

Once the missile shot was complete, the administration's answer was hand-wringing, more rhetoric and, oh yes, the obligatory trip to the U.N. Security Council so that it could scold the defiant DPRK. Beyond whatever happens in the Security Council, Mr. Obama seems to have no plan whatever.

In 2006, when Pyongyang last lit off a volley of missiles and then exploded a nuclear device, the Security Council responded unanimously with Resolutions 1695 and 1718, which imposed extensive military and some economic sanctions. Unfortunately, the impact of these resolutions was dramatically undercut by subsequent Bush administration diplomacy, which effectively let North Korea off the hook. By re-engaging Pyongyang diplomatically rather than increasing the external pressure, George W. Bush relegitimized the North and gave it yet more time to bargain.

Yesterday's launch is attributable to prior failures, but the global consequences now unfolding are Mr. Obama's responsibility. In fact, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is expected to announce today deep cuts in the U.S. missile defense program, an extraordinarily ill-advised step.

The initial draft Security Council resolution responding to yesterday's missile launch, written by Japan and the U.S., is weak. It essentially only reaffirms Resolutions 1695 and 1718, and minimally tightens existing enforcement mechanisms. Moreover, China and Russia made it plain before the launch they had no interest in stricter sanctions -- even arguing with a straight face that Pyongyang was only interested in peaceful satellite communications.

What the Security Council will ultimately produce is of course uncertain -- but resolutions almost never get tougher as the drafting and negotiations proceed. Even worse than a weak resolution would be a "presidential statement," a toothless gesture of the Council's opinion. Either way, North Korea has again defied the Security Council, gotten away with its launch with the support of Russia and China, and now will likely confront only pleas by Mr. Obama and others to return to the six-party talks.

Those talks are exactly where North Korea wants to be. From them ever greater material and political benefits will flow to Pyongyang, in exchange for ever more hollow promises to dismantle its nuclear program.

So far, therefore, the missile launch is an unambiguous win for North Korea. (Although not orbiting a satellite, all three rocket stages apparently fired, achieving Pyongyang's longest missile flight yet.) But the negative repercussions will extend far beyond Northeast Asia.

Iran has carefully scrutinized the Obama administration's every action, and Tehran's only conclusion can be: It is past time to torque up the pressure on this new crowd in Washington. Not only is Iran's back now covered by its friends Russia, China and others on the U.N. Security Council, but it sees an American president so ready to bend his knee for public favor in Europe that the mullahs' wish list for U.S. concessions will grow by the minute.

Israel must also be carefully considering how the U.S. watched North Korea rip through "the international community." The most important lesson the new government headed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu should draw is: Look out for No. 1. If Israel isn't prepared to protect itself, including using military force, against Iran's nuclear weapons program, it certainly shouldn't be holding its breath for Mr. Obama to do anything.

Russia and China must also be relishing this outcome. They will have faced down Mr. Obama in his first real crisis, having provided Security Council cover for a criminal regime, and emerged unscathed. They will conclude that achieving their large agendas with the new administration can't be too hard. That conclusion may be unfair to the new American president; but it will surely color how Moscow and Beijing structure their policies and their diplomacy until proven otherwise. That alone is bad news for Washington and its allies.
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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #55 on: April 06, 2009, 04:05:44 PM »
What was your reaction when they set off nukes while bush was in office..did yo approve of bushs reactions

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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #56 on: April 06, 2009, 04:10:18 PM »
Bush made the mistake of lumping in nKorea with Iran and eveybody else. I wasn't happy..but the nKoreans didn't rachet up the BS like they did this time. They wanted Obama's attention...he could have cut them off at the knee's.
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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #57 on: April 06, 2009, 04:34:40 PM »
Yeah....the PACOM CDR said we'd knock it down....the Japs said they were gonna knock it down....then Sec Gates said we were't gonna do anything. Read between the lines...Barry cried to the UN and the miget laughed as he filled orders for his rockets.

you said obama called it off...

just admit you were talking out of your ass

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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #58 on: April 06, 2009, 04:36:02 PM »
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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #59 on: April 06, 2009, 04:43:30 PM »
you said obama called it off...

just admit you were talking out of your ass

Dude if u can't figure out how things work, I can't explain it better then that. Obama told em not to launch.
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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #60 on: April 06, 2009, 04:45:34 PM »
Dude if u can't figure out how things work, I can't explain it better then that. Obama told em not to launch.

right..obama told the japs to stand down...gotcha mr. intel

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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #61 on: April 06, 2009, 04:47:42 PM »
Ok dude...
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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #62 on: April 06, 2009, 04:56:01 PM »
right..obama told the japs to stand down...gotcha mr. intel

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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #63 on: April 06, 2009, 04:57:54 PM »
Ok ALF.....
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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #64 on: April 06, 2009, 04:59:26 PM »
Ok dude...

lmao...all you can do is speculate.

Japan didnt use force so you assume obama got on the phone and made the call...

how about calling it like it is for once? nk wasnt a threat whatsoever...and the next time they actually have a real missile on the lauch pad...we'll actually do something about it. When nk tested a real fucking nuke...georgie boy put down his foot....and negotiated with em. I wonder if you were calling for heads to roll then also.

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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #65 on: April 06, 2009, 05:00:28 PM »
HH6 was Flying as squadron leader of a group of YF-22`s just moments away from launching a hot Sidewinder at the North Korean Satellite when in the nick of time Barack Obama got on the radio and ordered him to stand down.


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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #66 on: April 06, 2009, 05:02:46 PM »
What is more amusing is that HH6 does not realize that Japan does not even have a military other than a Defense Force that operates only within their country.

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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #67 on: April 06, 2009, 05:06:08 PM »
thats funny...because hh6 told me the japs have the tools to shoot down icbm's.

I'm sure they do...we just dont know about it

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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #68 on: April 06, 2009, 05:08:17 PM »
thats funny...because hh6 told me the japs have the tools to shoot down icbm's.

I'm sure they do...we just dont know about it
They do have surface to air capability, but only within their borders. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Self-Defense_Forces

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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #69 on: April 07, 2009, 06:58:18 PM »
TA...I've trained with the Japs....their Navy can shoot down an ICBM and shooting a missile over their country qualifies....TA sticking to whatever it is u do.
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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #70 on: April 07, 2009, 07:57:41 PM »
TA...I've trained with the Japs....their Navy can shoot down an ICBM and shooting a missile over their country qualifies....TA sticking to whatever it is u do.
Isn`t that what I said....Only within their borders.

Stick to what YOU do, because you fail at reading comprehension. :)

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Re: North Korea did it
« Reply #71 on: April 08, 2009, 12:27:11 AM »
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