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Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border
« on: July 17, 2010, 09:56:07 PM »
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/17/national/main6687832.shtml

(AP)   Minutemen groups, a surge in Border Patrol agents, and a tough new immigration law aren't enough for a reputed neo-Nazi who's now leading a militia in the Arizona desert.

Jason "J.T." Ready is taking matters into his own hands, declaring war on "narco-terrorists" and keeping an eye out for illegal immigrants. So far, he says his patrols have only found a few border crossers who were given water and handed over to the Border Patrol. Once, they also found a decaying body in a wash, and alerted authorities.

But local law enforcement authorities are nervous given that Ready's group is heavily armed and identifies with the National Socialist Movement, an organization that believes only non-Jewish, white heterosexuals should be American citizens and that everyone who isn't white should leave the country "peacefully or by force."

"We're not going to sit around and wait for the government anymore," Ready said. "This is what our founding fathers did."

An escalation of civilian border watches have taken root in Arizona in recent years, including the Minutemen movement. Various groups patrol the desert on foot, horseback and in airplanes and report suspicious activity to the Border Patrol, and generally, they have not caused problems for law enforcement.

But Ready, a 37-year-old ex-Marine, is different. He and his friends are outfitted with military fatigues, body armor and gas masks, and carry assault rifles. Ready takes offense at the term "neo-Nazi," but admits he identifies with the National Socialist Movement.

"These are explicit Nazis," said Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Project. "These are people who wear swastikas on their sleeves."

Ready is a reflection of the anger over illegal immigration in Arizona. Gov. Jan Brewer signed a controversial new immigration law in April, which requires police, while enforcing other laws, to question a person's immigration status if officers have a reasonable suspicion that the person is in the country illegally.

But Brewer hasn't done enough, Ready said, and he's not satisfied with President Barack Obama's decision to beef up security at the border.

Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu said there haven't been any incidents with Ready's group as they patrol his jurisdiction, which includes several busy immigrant smuggling corridors. But Babeu is concerned because an untrained group acting without the authority of the law could cause "extreme problems," and put themselves and others in danger.

"I'm not inviting them. And in fact, I'd rather they not come," Babeu said. "Especially those who espouse hatred or bigotry such as his."

Law enforcement officials said patrols like Ready's could undercut the work of the thousands of officers on duty every day across the border, especially if they try to enforce the law themselves in carrying out vigilante justice.

Ready said his group has been patrolling in the desert about 50 miles south of Phoenix, in an area where a Pinal County Sheriff's deputy reported he was shot by drug smugglers in April.

Bureau of Land Management rangers met Ready's group during one patrol, and they weren't violating any laws or looking for a confrontation, said spokesman Dennis Godfrey.

The patrols have been occurring on public land, and militia members have no real restrictions on their weaponry because of Arizona's loose gun laws.

The militia is an outgrowth of border watch groups that have been part of the immigration debate in Arizona. Patrols in the Arizona desert by Minutemen organizations brought national attention to illegal immigration in 2004 and 2005.

Such groups continue to operate in Arizona, and law enforcement officials generally don't take issue with them as long as they don't take matters into their own hands.

Border Patrol spokesman Omar Candelaria said the agency appreciates the extra eyes and ears but they would prefer actual law enforcement be left to professionals.

Former Minutemen leader Al Garza recently created the Patriot's Coalition, which uses scouts and search-and-rescue teams to alert the Border Patrol and provide first aid to illegal immigrants.

Depending on the availability of volunteers and the scouts' evidence of border crossers, patrols can vary from several times a week to once a month, Garza said. The operation is about 500 people, and includes a neighborhood watch program, legislative advisers and a horseback patrol, he said.

Technology, rather than manpower, is the focus of Glenn Spencer's American Border Patrol. The group is based at his ranch near the border. The five-man operation flies three small airplanes to ensure that his American Border Patrol is present and visible along the international line.

Spencer also uses Internet-controlled cameras and works with a group called Border Invasion Pics, which posts photos of people they suspect are crossing illegally.

"Sitting out there with a bunch of volunteers looking for people is generally a tremendous waste of people and time," Spencer said. "And it's also dangerous."

Ready said he's planning patrols throughout the summer.

"If they don't want my people out there, then there's an easy way to send us home: Secure the border," he said. "We'll put our guns back on the shelf, and that'll be the end of that."
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Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2010, 11:31:12 PM »
Big deal...  ::)

He's defending out boarder which is more than I can say for our government...
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Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2010, 11:33:18 PM »
maybe obama should take note,  infact why dont these guys get our tax money,  they are doing the work the fed should be
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Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2010, 12:18:37 AM »
I am happy americans are patrolling the borders!!

As long as they don't break the law, I don't care the motive nor the belief systems they employ.

Patrol the border, hand the illegals a bottle of water, and call it in.  Hell yes!  Just as every american should kick scumbags off their block... I praise any american who protects their border!

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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2010, 05:39:48 AM »
Yet Danny has no problem with black supremicists patrolling polling places.  Go figure.   ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)

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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2010, 06:14:34 AM »
maybe obama should take note,  infact why dont these guys get our tax money,  they are doing the work the fed should be


The only actions the fed has taken in this matter is opposing and filing lawsuits against the only type of solution AZ has right now - the one they were forced to come up with after waiting patiently for help from Jr. and, most recently, the mighty Kenyan prophet.

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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2010, 07:49:09 AM »
Yet Danny has no problem with black supremicists patrolling polling places.  Go figure.   ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)


 No doubt.

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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2010, 07:55:47 AM »
Big deal...  ::)

He's defending out boarder which is more than I can say for our government...

  This. I'm a supporter of Posse Cosmatatos, so I'd prefer "ordinary" citizens to patrol the border.

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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2010, 08:17:47 AM »
Yet Danny has no problem with black supremicists patrolling polling places.  Go figure.   ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)

You are a very strange individual. What the fuck are you talking about again???????
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Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2010, 10:04:56 AM »
Another classic deflection,  com on 33333   stay on topic!   :)

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Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2010, 10:10:59 AM »
Come back when they do something wrong. As it stands, patrolling the border, giving illegals water and handing them over to Border Patrol isn't anything bad. Who cares what their beliefs are as long as they aren't doing anything illegal? First amendment, check it as I know liberals seem to have a massive problem with it.   ;)

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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2010, 10:16:51 AM »
At Least someone is trying to do something.

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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2010, 10:19:34 AM »
If there haven't been any problems with this guy's group (they even give the illegals they find water, how EVIL of them), then why is this even newsworthy? Oh wait, the MSM is trying to vilify anyone who is anti-amnesty.  ::)

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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2010, 10:57:28 AM »
Well done! More citizens should follow their excellent example!

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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2010, 11:19:00 AM »
If there haven't been any problems with this guy's group (they even give the illegals they find water, how EVIL of them), then why is this even newsworthy? Oh wait, the MSM is trying to vilify anyone who is anti-amnesty.  ::)

Exactly, the far left and emotionally driven morons think, by accusing someone of the scarlet letter "R", we will back off. 

I fully applaud this group and what they are doing.   

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Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2010, 11:33:26 AM »
If there haven't been any problems with this guy's group (they even give the illegals they find water, how EVIL of them), then why is this even newsworthy? Oh wait, the MSM is trying to vilify anyone who is anti-amnesty.  ::)

It's probably not a good thing really that could eventually lead to incidents.  We need sanctioned or official people out there patrolling our borders not vigilante neo nazi nut jobs. 

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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2010, 11:44:27 AM »
It's probably not a good thing really that could eventually lead to incidents.  We need sanctioned or official people out there patrolling our borders not vigilante neo nazi nut jobs. 

Its probably not a good thing that the stupid govt refuses to do its job.  If the taxpayers and citizens keep getting victimized by these invaders, and the traitors like bush and obama refuse to do their job, then I have no problem with the citzens taking matters in their own hands. 

Or maybe Michell Obama or Laura Bush needs to get gang raped, jenna bush or obama's daughters molested, by these illegals before they decide to take their oath of office seriously.   

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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2010, 11:54:02 AM »
Its probably not a good thing that the stupid govt refuses to do its job.  If the taxpayers and citizens keep getting victimized by these invaders, and the traitors like bush and obama refuse to do their job, then I have no problem with the citzens taking matters in their own hands. 

Or maybe Michell Obama or Laura Bush needs to get gang raped, jenna bush or obama's daughters molested, by these illegals before they decide to take their oath of office seriously.   


I agree somewhat, in the absence i supposed its better than nothing.  however, the potential for wrong doing at the hands of people who believe in white supremacy is as sure as chicken at a banquet. 

Don't look for our Corporate controlled government to do anything about it.


PS:  You really need to see someone about your anger. 

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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2010, 11:57:52 AM »
The reason I wrote that Ozmo is because every week in my daily news there are numerous stories of illegals molesting children, killing people in DWI's, rapes, etc. 

Until these types of crimes, that us citizens have to deal with, hit home with those charges with enforcing the law, they will not take it seriously.   

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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2010, 12:03:25 PM »
The reason I wrote that Ozmo is because every week in my daily news there are numerous stories of illegals molesting children, killing people in DWI's, rapes, etc. 

Until these types of crimes, that us citizens have to deal with, hit home with those charges with enforcing the law, they will not take it seriously.   

I see.  I think we are at least getting some national attention on the matter with what Arizona did.  As more and more Americans become aware the more we will head in the right direction. 

Texas needs to be next. 

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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2010, 12:06:58 PM »
33 isn't all just irrational anger.
He's spirited and passionate - and often with good reason.

He also needs to pick up the slack for people who don't see and/or care about what's going on.

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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2010, 12:09:09 PM »
I see.  I think we are at least getting some national attention on the matter with what Arizona did.  As more and more Americans become aware the more we will head in the right direction. 

Texas needs to be next. 

Ozmo - why do you think the RW hated Bush more than anything else?  Illegal immigration. 

If you look when Bush really tanked, yes it was the war, but it was also in Feb 2005 when Jorge Boosh tried to ram amnesty through along with Kennedy and McLame.   

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Re: Neo-Nazi Group Patrolling Ariz. Border
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2010, 12:34:27 PM »
someone else posted it a few days ago... whichever party legalizes the illegals will get many of the illegals' votes.

It's why mccain/bush/palin all supported the bill, why obama/biden supports the bill, and palin/romney (or whoever is next) will support the bill.

Amnesty will happen fellahs.  Your queen Palin said under her presidency, if the illegals sign a paper, they get to stay.  it's that simple.  All the geniuses who said "but but but she's against it 240!" have been very silent since she clarified her damn position on the issue.

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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2010, 12:36:04 PM »
someone else posted it a few days ago... whichever party legalizes the illegals will get many of the illegals' votes.

It's why mccain/bush/palin all supported the bill, why obama/biden supports the bill, and palin/romney (or whoever is next) will support the bill.

Amnesty will happen fellahs.  Your queen Palin said under her presidency, if the illegals sign a paper, they get to stay.  it's that simple.  All the geniuses who said "but but but she's against it 240!" have been very silent since she clarified her damn position on the issue.

Not is states have anything to say about it.  I read that 7 states are now in the process of doing what AZ did.  Good for them.  Enough of the barbarian invasion. 

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« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2010, 12:38:02 PM »
someone else posted it a few days ago... whichever party legalizes the illegals will get many of the illegals' votes.

It's why mccain/bush/palin all supported the bill, why obama/biden supports the bill, and palin/romney (or whoever is next) will support the bill.

Amnesty will happen fellahs.  Your queen Palin said under her presidency, if the illegals sign a paper, they get to stay.  it's that simple.  All the geniuses who said "but but but she's against it 240!" have been very silent since she clarified her damn position on the issue.
LOL at your palin obsession, I was unaware she ran for president or is running for president...did you get that from the nat enq too?  ::) ::) ::)

whoever secures the borders without amnesty will get more votes 240 as the majority of citizens...YOU KNOW THOSE PPL WHO VOTE? are against amnesty and are for securing our borders...

your logic doesnt make sense...again....