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Title: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: denarii on March 06, 2020, 02:28:00 AM
Sure, they are going to beat Federal charges....  ::) ;D


https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/crime/fl-ne-boca-raton-supplements-scheme-defendants-fight-suporess-dismiss-20200304-r2e2rvjo6vabxidzhejn6g4b5m-story.html


Bodybuilders battle against charges of selling illegal dietary supplements, By Mario Ariza
South Florida Sun Sentinel - Mar 04, 2020 | 6:00 AM

The bodybuilders made millions selling products designed to help their clients bulk up, but the government accuses them of fraudulently peddling dietary supplements containing dangerous designer drugs and illegal steroids.  Declaring the prosecution an effort by the government “to destroy the weightlifting industry,” the muscle men have promised to beat the case for the good of iron-pumpers everywhere.

If you listen to the defense, it’s a case of how Boca Raton-based Blackstone Labs and Ventech Labs turned selling dietary supplements into business success. If you listen to prosecutors, it’s a tale of South Florida salesmen making millions peddling compounds of questionable legality and safety. The government, in its 49-page, 14-count indictment, charges that Phillip Braun, Aaron Singerman, Robert DiMaggio, Anthony Ventrella, David Winsauer and James Boccuzzi conspired to sell hundreds of thousands of illegal products, including dietary supplements containing possibly dangerous designer steroids known as “prohormones."

All of the accused, with the exception of DiMaggio, are from South Florida. The indictment alleges that six men and the two companies they owned distributed the purportedly dangerous products even though they knew they might be harmful to consumers, and that they engaged in litigation to silence the complaints of people who their product sickened.

“When you sell a product that doesn’t have a label that includes ingredients, that’s a crime,” argued Assistant United States Attorney David Frank to the federal judge during the hearing. Arguing that the ingredients found in their products were either “natural,” or unregulated, Blackstone Labs CEO Phillip Braun and his four co-defendants have consistently denied the charges. In a statement released by Blackstone following the indictment, the company called the accusations “false and inaccurate” and accused the government of meddling in the nutritional supplement industry.

One defendant, Nevada-based Robert DiMaggio, pleaded guilty on Nov. 19.

On Monday and Tuesday, the weightlifters, who are out on bond, packed the courtroom of U.S. District Judge William P. Dimitrouleas as the judge held a marathon series of motion hearings to try and resolve a complicated set of legal issues that have arisen in the case.  Lawyers for the bodybuilders have themselves leveled accusations of prosecutorial misconduct against the government, claiming that Assistant United States Attorneys failed to turn over key evidence in a timely fashion. In court filings, the defense attorneys claim the evidence in question shows that at least some of the performance-enhancing substances their clients are charged with selling weren’t actually illegal.

The attorneys also have moved to suppress evidence and dismiss five of the 14 charges against their clients. In one instance, court records show defense attorneys moving to exclude from possible future jury consideration a YouTube video of one of the defendants using a supplement and then copulating with an inflatable blow up doll in an attempt to show how well the product worked.  Sentences for the offenses named in the indictment range from three years to 15 years for the various counts including conspiracy, according to the Department of Justice
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: wes on March 06, 2020, 02:45:43 AM
"video of one of the defendants using a supplement and then copulating with an inflatable blow up doll in an attempt to show how well the product worked"

Geezus.......You couldn`t make this shit up  !!
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: Bevo on March 06, 2020, 02:55:34 AM
"video of one of the defendants using a supplement and then copulating with an inflatable blow up doll in an attempt to show how well the product worked"

Geezus.......You couldn`t make this shit up  !!

A bunch of weirdos, schmoes and scum bags in the industry
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: hipolito mejia on March 06, 2020, 03:25:26 AM
Pj needs to log back in here pronto !
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: robcguns on March 06, 2020, 03:56:09 AM
Maybe pj will get off easy if the feds see his latest small cock video.They might feel bad for him.
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: Flexacon on March 06, 2020, 05:30:14 AM
 DiMaggio pleading guilty doesn't looked good for the others. I wonder if he will be called as a witness by the prosecution team.

This could be a rare occasions where I will actually be siding with "snitch".
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: Kwon on March 06, 2020, 05:41:49 AM
I hope Singerman gets a longer sentence than PJ


We need PJ back on here to post more videos!
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: robcguns on March 06, 2020, 05:55:53 AM
I hope Singerman gets a longer sentence than PJ


We need PJ back on here to post more videos!

Hhahahhahaha
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 06, 2020, 05:56:20 AM
"video of one of the defendants using a supplement and then copulating with an inflatable blow up doll in an attempt to show how well the product worked"

Geezus.......You couldn`t make this shit up  !!


I remember that, they were wasted drunk that day and having fun
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: njflex on March 06, 2020, 05:59:43 AM
WHAT A MESS,,,
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: OneMoreRep on March 06, 2020, 06:05:15 AM

I remember that, they were wasted drunk that day and having fun

Can you tell us more sir? Did they also try to copulate with each other?

"1"
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: Twaddle on March 06, 2020, 06:09:39 AM

I remember that, they were wasted drunk that day and having fun

Were you present for the copulation?  Is it possible you'll get drug into the courts?  If you get subpoenaed, will you go?   ???
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: SouJerz on March 06, 2020, 06:35:34 AM
DiMaggio is gonna sing like a canary to reduce his sentence this is normally
How it works when one person pleads guilty.

Hopefully it’s just a shit ton of fines and maybe house arrest or club fed for 1-2 years with early parole.

Again Aaron’s smart. Ever wonder why he built that home in Florida?  Homestead act anyone?  I don’t think the government can force him to sell the house to recoup money. 
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: insider on March 06, 2020, 06:48:10 AM
If there is any justice in this world, they will pay
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: JAGO on March 06, 2020, 06:54:13 AM
Can you tell us more sir? Did they also try to copulate with each other?

"1"

Anyone who thinks Singerman and Braun did not fuck each other is DEAD WRONG. However, what consenting adults do is no ones fucken business.
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: SouJerz on March 06, 2020, 06:55:29 AM
Lol justice.  I’m pretty sure far worse crimes are committed with zero Justice 
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: JAGO on March 06, 2020, 06:59:32 AM
I hope Singerman gets a longer sentence than PJ


We need PJ back on here to post more videos!

To be honest, I do too. He thinks he is THE man, when in fact all that he did was plan to cut lose from the criminal enterprise  ( Blackstone) when he had enough money ( profit and skimming ) to distance himself from the criminal enterprise.

How does it work in the US? Can one ( if found guilty ) lose their second unassociated business, as it would then seem that the startup capital came from an illegal source ( profits from their poison?

J
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: JAGO on March 06, 2020, 07:00:16 AM
Lol justice.  I’m pretty sure far worse crimes are committed with zero Justice 

Trump and his buddies can attest to that.

J
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: Twaddle on March 06, 2020, 07:13:50 AM
DiMaggio is gonna sing like a canary to reduce his sentence this is normally
How it works when one person pleads guilty.

Hopefully it’s just a shit ton of fines and maybe house arrest or club fed for 1-2 years with early parole.

Again Aaron’s smart. Ever wonder why he built that home in Florida?  Homestead act anyone?  I don’t think the government can force him to sell the house to recoup money. 

Uhhhh, you missed the part where the govt. put a "Notice of Lis Pendens: Forfeiture" on his property.  Yes, he can lose his home.
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: Dave D on March 06, 2020, 07:33:31 AM
Uhhhh, you missed the part where the govt. put a "Notice of Lis Pendens: Forfeiture" on his property.  Yes, he can lose his home.

Nope Aaron's to smart for that. Homestead act and whatnot.
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: SouJerz on March 06, 2020, 07:59:43 AM
Trump and his buddies can attest to that.

J

lol the stupidity and emotional arguing of some is just mind blowing to me.  What happened to common sense.  Like pedophile priests hurting children or rapist and murders?  But yeah trumps crimes are definitely at the top.   Not Jon corzine stealing millions and nothing happening to him but the again you would have to believe things that you aren’t told to believe. 
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: SouJerz on March 06, 2020, 08:01:30 AM
Nope Aaron's to smart for that. Homestead act and whatnot.

He probably got great advice from darielles father and his attorneys.  Her father went to jail or is in jail for white collar Wall Street crimes.   Funny the Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree the mom taught the daughter well. 
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: BB on March 06, 2020, 08:03:32 AM

"Declaring the prosecution an effort by the government “to destroy the weightlifting industry”


They had one of their guys act like an FDA agent to move the mislabeled supplements -

"On or about August 4, 2016, JAMES BOCCUZZI, sent an email to a wholesale customer and attached a document entitled "Certificate of Free Sale," which falsely described BOCCUZZI as an FDA employee. In the email, BOCCUZZI wrote, "This is the best I can do. I dont [sic] even feel comfortable doing this because I am impersonating the FDA and our business could get shut down, tons of people will lose their jobs." "

They tried hide the sale of prohormones -

"On or about February 16, 2017, ANTHONY VENTRELLA, after being informed that a search warrant was being conducted by FDA at VENTRELLA's business, sent a text message to one of his employees that said, "Shit. If you can hide the pros [prohormones] please
do." "

They knew it was illegal to sell Ostarine under their "Ostapure" -

"On or about October 9, 2015, PHILLIP BRAUN answered an email from a customer about SARMs, including Ostapure, and said, "Illegal to sell them!"

They established a bunch of shell corps to funnel the illegal supplements through -

"On or about March 13, 2014, ROBERT DIMAGGIO, in an email to AARON SINGERMAN about FDA enforcement announcements concerning the designer steroid products Methadrol and Super DMZ RX 2.0, told SINGERMAN that"[ o ]nee you get an FDA letter I would move all of the MDE and SDMZ that is left to a different location (in case they show up), and remove them from the website, and sell it to the retailers only [ un ]til its [sic] gone."

"On or about April 16, 2014, AARON SINGERMAN, PHILLIP BRAUN, ANTHONY VENTRELLA, and Unindicted Co-conspirator 2 caused Fight Pharm to be incorporated under the laws of Florida as a limited liability company."

Etc, etc....

But, yes, it is some grand plot to “to destroy the weightlifting industry”  ::).

Here's the indictment, pages 11 - 17, under "overt acts" really lays out how dumb these guys were. There are 12 year old crack dealers that are smarter than these guys -

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1143411/download .

Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: JAGO on March 06, 2020, 01:58:12 PM
Here is a question, in an interview Sergio said he had a booth and because the expo was shutdown, he lot his money, is this true? And, if so, how much of a loss would Blackstone and Con1 take?

J
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: IronMagazine.com on March 06, 2020, 04:06:42 PM
DiMaggio pleading guilty doesn't looked good for the others. I wonder if he will be called as a witness by the prosecution team.

This could be a rare occasions where I will actually be siding with "snitch".

DiMaggio is gonna sing like a canary to reduce his sentence this is normally how it works when one person pleads guilty.

 :o
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: Matt on March 06, 2020, 04:09:36 PM
:o

I thought IML products were grey, but not illegal?

Or do they retroactively fit laws for charges like this?
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: IronMagazine.com on March 06, 2020, 04:12:17 PM
I thought IML products were grey, but not illegal?

Or do they retroactively fit laws for charges like this?

What in the world does that have to do with this thread? Stay on topic.
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: Matt on March 06, 2020, 10:26:24 PM
What in the world does that have to do with this thread? Stay on topic.

Whatever the company was involved with this action...weren't the formulas all grey, but ultimately legal?
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 07, 2020, 06:57:03 AM
Whatever the company was involved with this action...weren't the formulas all grey, but ultimately legal?

What is meant by "grey"? Anyone who has taken Superdrol knows how powerful it is, it feels like a supercharged and supertoxic Anadrol. Even if it wasn't somehow "super illegal" any idiot knows it's risky to sell something like this to kids and that it could cause problems with the law. But these guys were like any drug dealers who plan to move illegal products for a while and then invest into legitimate businesses.
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2020, 07:04:46 AM
What is meant by "grey"? Anyone who has taken Superdrol knows how powerful it is, it feels like a supercharged and supertoxic Anadrol. Even if it wasn't somehow "super illegal" any idiot knows it's risky to sell something like this to kids and that it could cause problems with the law. But these guys were like any drug dealers who plan to move illegal products for a while and then invest into legitimate businesses.

Grey as in, the formulation skirted the definition of what was technically considered illegal.

I think the original pro-hormones were just a carbon atom short of being steroids as far as the chemical structure was concerned, and that carbon atom was reattached by the body upon consumption.  ;D

So no doubt these were powerful hormones...I just don't think they were technically illegal.  But maybe I'm wrong about that.
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: Dave D on March 07, 2020, 07:32:06 AM
Grey as in, the formulation skirted the definition of what was technically considered illegal.

I think the original pro-hormones were just a carbon atom short of being steroids as far as the chemical structure was concerned, and that carbon atom was reattached by the body upon consumption.  ;D

So no doubt these were powerful hormones...I just don't think they were technically illegal.  But maybe I'm wrong about that.

Based on the indictment you’re probably wrong. 

Read the info provided Matt, it’s interesting.
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2020, 07:44:10 AM
Based on the indictment you’re probably wrong. 

Read the info provided Matt, it’s interesting.

Just curious if this was a case where any retrofitting of laws took place.

But assuming outright illegal hormones were sold...it's kind of funny to me that selling hormones that WORK is illegal, but selling muscle-building supplements that are basically useless is fine.  At the very least, not illegal.
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: Dave D on March 07, 2020, 07:57:14 AM
Just curious if this was a case where any retrofitting of laws took place.

But assuming outright illegal hormones were sold...it's kind of funny to me that selling hormones that WORK is illegal, but selling muscle-building supplements that are basically useless is fine.  At the very least, not illegal.

Lol. Good take. But it looks like this is about selling supplements that are actually non approved drugs versus nutritional products.
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 07, 2020, 08:02:23 AM
Grey as in, the formulation skirted the definition of what was technically considered illegal.

I think the original pro-hormones were just a carbon atom short of being steroids as far as the chemical structure was concerned, and that carbon atom was reattached by the body upon consumption.  ;D

So no doubt these were powerful hormones...I just don't think they were technically illegal.  But maybe I'm wrong about that.

The pro-hormone designation was sort of a pseudo-scientific term to begin with. The fairly inneffective early "pro-hormones" are today classified as anabolic steroids by drug testing bodies such as WADA. Some bread and butter common anabolic steroid, which were always illegal, might exert most of their effects through their metabolites but it doesn't change anything really.

I'm sure there is some ambiguity in how the law could be interpreted but there's a reason none of the really big supplement companies messed with the pro-hormones or the pro-steroids (lol that term was even more ridiculous). Anabolic steroids work and would sell like crazy but the legal risk is just too great.

But it was nuts how you could buy M1T or Superdrol on bb.com or whatever. Many juicers refused to believe they would work at all simply because nothing on a supplement site could really work. Today people know these are some of the strongest drugs ever made.
Then they went really nuts and put 3 or 4 of these drugs in the same pill lol.
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: JAGO on March 07, 2020, 08:11:19 AM
Just curious if this was a case where any retrofitting of laws took place.

But assuming outright illegal hormones were sold...it's kind of funny to me that selling hormones that WORK is illegal, but selling muscle-building supplements that are basically useless is fine.  At the very least, not illegal.

Supps ( except protein powders ) are mostly junk which are shown not to have an adverse effect, hormones on the other hand can be very toxic.

J
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: BB on March 07, 2020, 08:51:10 AM
Just curious if this was a case where any retrofitting of laws took place.

But assuming outright illegal hormones were sold...it's kind of funny to me that selling hormones that WORK is illegal, but selling muscle-building supplements that are basically useless is fine.  At the very least, not illegal.

No. These supplements certainly would've been illegal and/or unapproved by the time Braun and Singerman were selling them. And they were still plotting and scheming to sell them after the FDA and others politely warned them to stop. Arguments about free choice, etc.... aside, they had plenty of chances to stop, and they probably would've been fine if they had.

Braun and Singerman got into the prohormone/designer steroid game late, and stayed in it long after near all of the major players had exited. They got addicted to the money.



 
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: IronMagazine.com on March 07, 2020, 09:30:11 AM
Whatever the company was involved with this action...weren't the formulas all grey, but ultimately legal?

Is IronMag Labs part of this indictment? Nope.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Flexacon on March 07, 2020, 12:17:24 PM
Is IronMag Labs part of this indictment? Nope.

We are okay with seeing Slingerman go down, but please try your best to save brother PJ.

Maybe portray him as an innocent retard who was under the evil big nosed Jews spell.

Kind regards.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 07, 2020, 12:29:17 PM
Is IronMag Labs part of this indictment? Nope.

Might be part of the next one. 
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: JAGO on March 07, 2020, 12:40:59 PM

I remember that, they were wasted drunk that day and having fun

Drunk in your place of business . . . Top flight professionals.

J
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: denarii on March 07, 2020, 01:00:56 PM
You can get all of this stuff no problems in the UK

http://www.jwsupplements.co.uk/muscle-builders/?sort=bestselling
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 07, 2020, 01:23:29 PM
You can get all of this stuff no problems in the UK

http://www.jwsupplements.co.uk/muscle-builders/?sort=bestselling

Yeah I got some Superdrol, M1T and methylclostebol from a UK supp site. Hey I'm natural, it's just prohormones  :D
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: IronMagazine.com on March 07, 2020, 08:49:15 PM
Might be part of the next one.  

LOL

I can assure you with 100% certainty you're wrong.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 08, 2020, 12:09:47 PM
LOL

I can assure you with 100% certainty you're wrong.

Don't be like that.  We don't want you to miss out.  LOL
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: DK on April 15, 2020, 01:08:24 AM
Not surprisingly, all of Braun's & Singerman's legal tap-dancing efforts have been tossed by the court, according to the Pacer.gov docket info on the case, a continuance for a trial scheduled for October 20th, 2020 has been ordered, basically delaying the inevitable; fact is, they both really need to play "Let's Make A Deal" before then.
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: AbrahamG on April 15, 2020, 01:13:58 AM

I remember that, they were wasted drunk that day and having fun

If only they had known you'd have willingly played the role of the aforementioned doll.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on April 15, 2020, 01:15:39 AM
I think this is one of these threads where Goodrum makes a bold claim and then does not post again because he does not have any proof.
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: Kwon on April 15, 2020, 01:41:02 AM
Hhahahhahaha

Peepees of Peace!
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: a_pupil on April 15, 2020, 07:19:17 AM
I think this is one of these threads where Goodrum makes a bold claim and then does not post again because he does not have any proof.

Venom Vince Versace is working his voodoo to get his boy Singerman off as we speak
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 15, 2020, 08:35:08 AM
I think this is one of these threads where Goodrum makes a bold claim and then does not post again because he does not have any proof.


What claim did I make mother fucker???   From where I see it, Rob DiMaggio is sucking the FDA'S dick to avoid a prison sentence by snitching on Aaron and PJ cause he's a bitch ass n I g g a who should be tied to cement shoes and thrown into the Atlantic Ocean for his cowardice to do one fucking penny in the slammer if he was in the mafia
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: deadz on April 15, 2020, 10:57:45 AM
Those punks are headed for a huge fall. Tick tock..
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: IronMagazine.com on April 15, 2020, 12:40:01 PM

From where I see it, Rob DiMaggio is sucking the FDA'S dick to avoid a prison sentence by snitching on Aaron and PJ cause he's a bitch ass n I g g a who should be tied to cement shoes and thrown into the Atlantic Ocean for his cowardice to do one fucking penny in the slammer if he was in the mafia

He sounds like a smart guy.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: JAGO on April 15, 2020, 01:11:44 PM

What claim did I make mother fucker???   From where I see it, Rob DiMaggio is sucking the FDA'S dick to avoid a prison sentence by snitching on Aaron and PJ cause he's a bitch ass n I g g a who should be tied to cement shoes and thrown into the Atlantic Ocean for his cowardice to do one fucking penny in the slammer if he was in the mafia

There is no honor among thieves - sing PJ because if you don’t Aaron will . . . and when you’re left holding Aaron’s bag, I don’t think you’ll be holding the one your dreaming about.

J
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: AbrahamG on April 15, 2020, 05:09:26 PM

What claim did I make mother fucker???   From where I see it, Rob DiMaggio is sucking the FDA'S dick to avoid a prison sentence by snitching on Aaron and PJ cause he's a bitch ass n I g g a who should be tied to cement shoes and thrown into the Atlantic Ocean for his cowardice to do one fucking penny in the slammer if he was in the mafia

If you had any mob involvement whatsoever, you'd have been found years ago in a Motel 6 with your skull bashed in and a louisville slugger firmly entrenched in your gaping rectum.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Dave D on April 15, 2020, 05:16:23 PM
If you had any mob involvement whatsoever, you'd have been found years ago in a Motel 6 with your skull bashed in and a louisville slugger firmly entrenched in your gaping rectum.

Don’t worry Vince has zero ties to the mob and knows nothing about doing time.

That said what you described sounds like a typical “Michigan weekend getaway”.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Matt on April 15, 2020, 07:29:47 PM

What claim did I make mother fucker???   From where I see it, Rob DiMaggio is sucking the FDA'S dick to avoid a prison sentence by snitching on Aaron and PJ cause he's a bitch ass n I g g a who should be tied to cement shoes and thrown into the Atlantic Ocean for his cowardice to do one fucking penny in the slammer if he was in the mafia

Vince,

Do you recall that post where PJ Braun quit his sponsorship from IML Supplements / Robert DiMaggio, and was mean to DiMaggio, saying mean things to him, and being mean to him, generally speaking?

If someone was mean to you, would you still be there friend?

In light of the fact that Braun was mean to DiMaggio, and said mean things about him, I can understand why DiMaggio is no longer concerned about Braun, and doesn't care about his freedoms.

I honestly don't know what I would do unless I was in the exact same position - including having the knowledge that PJ Braun was mean to me.  It would be hard to be kind to someone who was previously mean to me.

The post where PJ Braun was being mean to Robert DiMaggio should be on here somewhere - unless it got deleted.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Matt on April 15, 2020, 07:36:11 PM
To Vince Goodrum, or anyone else wishing to read the post where PJ Braun was being mean to Robert DiMaggio [and saying mean things to him], I located the thread where PJ Braun was being mean to Robert DiMaggio.  Check out this thread if you want to see the mean things that PJ Braun said about Robert DiMaggio.  *IF* Robert DiMaggio is informing the DEA on PJ Braun, I strongly suspect the reason is the contents of this thread, where PJ Braun was mean to Robert DiMaggio, and said mean things to him:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=585969.0
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Dave D on April 15, 2020, 08:18:47 PM

What claim did I make mother fucker???   From where I see it, Rob DiMaggio is sucking the FDA'S dick to avoid a prison sentence by snitching on Aaron and PJ cause he's a bitch ass n I g g a who should be tied to cement shoes and thrown into the Atlantic Ocean for his cowardice to do one fucking penny in the slammer if he was in the mafia

Vince it’s good to know if you were guilty of a crime got caught and had two options, talk or time, you’d do the time. No questions asked.

That said if illegal and more importantly HARMFUL drugs were being sold, to unknowing customers,  then the people who were doing it will get what they deserve.

Roberts testimony, or “snitching”, is the finishing touch. He wasn’t involved with the company long enough to know anything important and if he did they conducted business wrong.

Real people are taken advantage of by your good friend. Grow up. You’re better than this.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: IronMagazine.com on April 15, 2020, 09:50:40 PM
Vince it’s good to know if you were guilty of a crime got caught and had two options, talk or time, you’d do the time. No questions asked.

That said if illegal and more importantly HARMFUL drugs were being sold, to unknowing customers,  then the people who were doing it will get what they deserve.

Roberts testimony, or “snitching”, is the finishing touch. He wasn’t involved with the company long enough to know anything important and if he did they conducted business wrong.

Real people are taken advantage of by your good friend. Grow up. You’re better than this.

Well said.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on April 15, 2020, 11:25:31 PM
has the sentence been handed out?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: JAGO on April 16, 2020, 12:08:17 PM
"Hey everyone, I usually don't post much on the boards but I saw this stuff and had to jump in. Robert has been saying all kinds of negative things about us for years now and it has always been so odd to me. When I first met Robert I realized that he was far less intelligent then I expected. He was simply a guy who took a chance and got lucky...In some ways that's what living the American Dream is right? We met the first time at Aaron's wedding where he came dressed in jeans and an ill fitting polo shirt, "Because Robert DiMaggio doesn't wear button up shirts." He told us that since bringing us on we had made the company double in sales. His wife was thanking us up and down. I pulled Aaron aside and said this guy is so fucking stupid we need to be doing this on our own. That's when we made the proposition to become his personal marketing and sales team. At this time we were able to see the sales numbers and had monthly sales meetings where Gena, robs now ex wife. (He was cheating on her with numerous prostitutes and eventually she tried to kill him which ended inner unfortunate arrest and then long stint in rehab... for the record I think Gena is a sweetheart and I think any women would have wanted to kill him for what he was doing to her too)

At the time Gena had to enter Rehab we had tripled the companies sales because of our aggressive online marketing strategy (the same strategy that made BSL the hottest company in supps trumping anything IML ever did) all the companies sanity went to rehab with her and Aaron and I were ready to do our own thing which Robert said he would like to be a part of and promised us lots of financial help if we agreed to let him be a part. Aaron and I gave Robert 30% of the company in exchange for some units of starting Super DMZ 2.0 (that we sold in a total of 5 weeks). This was the worst decision of my life, from a business standpoint because after that, not only did Robert never help with anything ever again, but would actually try to cannibalize our sales by posting bad articles about our products. Meanwhile this idiot was getting checks for $70k a month or more sometimes from us. We finally bought him out and it was the best day ever getting rid of that moron.

I actually tried hard to be friends with him, but after he went on a rant about how Jason Genova was a retard and that we shouldn't support retarded people that look like shit, I couldn't take him. Jason is not retarded and as annoying as he can be, we really wanted to help him and still do... so this fucking loser has problems with mentally challenged people, is a notorious adulterer, and obsessive drug addict (to this day i have never seen anyone do more coke then Robert) and was a pure cancer to BSL... Good riddance to him...

The real problem though after all that is that Robert was so pathetically jealous of me, because his now wife (then escort) was throwing herself at me instead of him even though I kept telling her no... so this guy falls in love with a whore (literally) that was trying to hook up with me... I was turning down free sex from her, and he had to pay 3 thousand dollars!!!.... and then married her.... and for the record I know other guys that had sex with her for $300 bucks!!!!! How crazy is that?! So you see this is why I never get involved with anything this idiot says, he's the worst human being I have ever known... Oh and by the way, he tried suing us for doing too good. Seriously, you can sue someone for that now.... but its now public knowledge that his stupid ass walked away because his frivolous attempt at jealous raged extortion wasn't gonna work. Peace out buy everyone...Including you Robert you fucking pussy ... Just be happy that I am now too rich to punch your face in... because lord knows I would love to... and I don't care if that offends anyone... I never met a face that needed a punch more then his hahahahahaha .... Enter you just got served here. "

Wow - what goes around comes around.

J
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Twaddle on April 16, 2020, 12:17:56 PM
LOL

It's fitting that PJ said to Dimaggio, "You just got served."   

When the judge starts handing out sentences, he should say, "You just got served!".
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: IronMagazine.com on April 16, 2020, 01:31:28 PM
... Just be happy that I am now too rich to punch your face in...

Pre-foreclosure ???
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: JAGO on April 16, 2020, 01:42:29 PM
Would not be surprised to see this guy off himself - booze and pills or a .45, would not surprise me at all.

J
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Rambone on April 16, 2020, 01:53:19 PM
If you had any mob involvement whatsoever, you'd have been found years ago in a Motel 6 with your skull bashed in and a louisville slugger firmly entrenched in your gaping rectum.

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AromaticUnluckyKinglet-size_restricted.gif)
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: IronMagazine.com on April 16, 2020, 02:43:48 PM
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: IronMagazine.com on April 16, 2020, 03:21:33 PM
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: IronMagazine.com on April 16, 2020, 03:27:09 PM
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: IronMagazine.com on April 16, 2020, 08:51:34 PM
LOL

It's fitting that PJ said to Dimaggio, "You just got served."  

When the judge starts handing out sentences, he should say, "You just got served!".

And that will happen. Tic Toc. 10 years minimum. The best lawyers in the country cannot beat 14 federal indictments.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Jayel on April 16, 2020, 11:56:05 PM
Everywhere PJ and Aaron go, drama follows.. the two drama queens couldn’t get enough, so they even fell out with each other!
PJ is Mike ‘the situation’ of the bb’ing industry.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: JAGO on April 17, 2020, 01:12:45 AM
This all started when PJ decided to hitch Blackstone to social media. He ( and Singerman ) started to video Genova, train with him and even buy him food - just an attempt to het the name out there. If you do self serving shit, you’ll find yourself faltering.

Did someone say Singerman’s father in law did or is doin*/time for white collar crime?

J
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: IronMagazine.com on April 20, 2020, 10:21:22 PM
Did someone say Singerman’s father in law did or is doin*/time for white collar crime?

Aaron's wife will be fine once he is in prison just like her father.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Rambone on April 21, 2020, 02:40:24 AM
Aaron's wife will be fine once he is in prison just like her father.

This him?

https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/miami/press-releases/2009/mm032009.htm

And they always say that nobody went to jail after the housing crisis! Well, Mr. Gaines did.

Deerfield Beach Title Agent Sentenced to Jail for Role in Mortgage Fraud Scheme


R. Alexander Acosta, United States Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, Jonathan I. Solomon, Special Agent in Charge, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Henry Gutierrez, Postal Inspector in Charge, U.S. Postal Inspection Service, and Alex Hager, Acting Commissioner, Florida Department of Financial Regulation, announced today’s sentencing of defendant Howard Gaines for his role in a complex mortgage fraud scheme.  Gaines, an attorney and a licensed title agent with ran Your Title Choice, Inc., in Deerfield Beach, FL., was sentenced by U.S. District Judge William Dimitrouleas to 8 years in prison, to be followed by 3 years of supervised release.  In addition, Gaines was ordered to pay restitution in the amount of $422,465 to three lenders.
A jury convicted Gaines in December 2008 on one count of conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud and two counts of mail fraud.
This is the sixth conviction in this case, following five earlier guilty pleas by other conspirators.  According to the evidence presented at trial, Gaines, as a title agent, aided co-conspirator Anthony Dehaney and others to close on fraudulent loans.  Among the fraudulent documents presented at closings were HUD 1 Settlement Forms, which falsely represented that buyers were using their own money to close on the purchases.  The evidence showed that Gaines helped Dehaney close more than $10,000,000 in loans during 2004, 2005, and 2006, including $5,000,000 in fraudulent mortgages.
Mr. Acosta commended the investigative efforts of the FBI, U.S. Postal Inspection Service, and the State of Florida Office of Financial Regulation for their work on this case.  The case is being prosecuted by Assistant United States Attorneys Jeffrey Kay and Jennifer Keene of the Fort Lauderdale Office.
A copy of this press release may be found on the website of the United States Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Florida at www.usdoj.gov/usao/fls.  Related court documents and information may be found on the website of the District Court for the Southern District of Florida at www.flsd.uscourts.gov or on http://pacer.flsd.uscourts.gov
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 21, 2020, 06:38:14 AM
If you had any mob involvement whatsoever, you'd have been found years ago in a Motel 6 with your skull bashed in and a louisville slugger firmly entrenched in your gaping rectum.


Pool stick....I saw that episode on Sopranos...i ;D
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 21, 2020, 06:53:07 AM
There is no honor among thieves - sing PJ because if you don’t Aaron will . . . and when you’re left holding Aaron’s bag, I don’t think you’ll be holding the one your dreaming about.

J


Aaron has always had my back for years and even when I was the most hated person in the bodybuilding industry because of my trolling tactics however honestly don't want Aaron, PJ, or even Rob going to jail over this.   The FDA are nothing more than shills for the pharmacutical industries and always shut down companies that sell products that actually work.  Ephedra for example helped many people lose weight but it got banned placing the blame on some fat overweight baseball player who wore layers of clothes in 90 degree weather to lose weight and Korey Stringer who basically was trained to death by reckless coaches.   


However, they will all do prison time in my opinion...not much, prob the same amount that Palumbo did but I would have liked them to stick together and watch each other's backs.   If I had moved to Boca Ration in 2014 after my divorce, they wouldn't be in so much trouble because I would have showed them how to limit their exposure....the same that I do for "certain IFBB pro bodybuildiners" who happen to be friends with Dorothy.....





Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 21, 2020, 06:55:49 AM
He sounds like a smart guy.


Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Taffin on April 21, 2020, 06:56:54 AM

Clearly riding an opiate buzz there...


Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: robcguns on April 21, 2020, 07:05:14 AM
Clearly riding an opiate buzz there...


Would love to tit fuck her and blast one all over her face.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Taffin on April 22, 2020, 11:08:54 AM
Would love to tit fuck her and blast one all over her face.

HAHAHAHAAA!  Thanks Rob, for some reason that made me legit LOL - maybe the use of the word 'blast' tipped me over the edge  ;D ;D
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 22, 2020, 12:40:03 PM
PJ looks like he has done or still is doing a ton of coke or speed with the way his jaw juts and twists. Anyone else notice this?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: deadz on April 22, 2020, 01:48:06 PM
PJ looks like he has done or still is doing a ton of coke or speed with the way his jaw juts and twists. Anyone else notice this?
Yes, he is a big time drug addict for many, many years. He got lucky, mainly thanks to Stinkerman, both will be forgotten soon.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: AbrahamG on April 23, 2020, 07:46:59 PM
Would love to tit fuck her and blast one all over her face.

I'd like to reverse titty fuck her, bouncing my filthy asshole off her forehead leaving a mark that looks like she attended ash wednesday services.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: robcguns on April 23, 2020, 07:56:18 PM
HAHAHAHAAA!  Thanks Rob, for some reason that made me legit LOL - maybe the use of the word 'blast' tipped me over the edge  ;D ;D

Haha anytime

I'd like to reverse titty fuck her, bouncing my filthy asshole off her forehead leaving a mark that looks like she attended ash wednesday services.

Hahahhahaha you dirty bastard
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: AbrahamG on April 23, 2020, 07:59:50 PM
Haha anytime

Hahahhahaha you dirty bastard

Been taking an edible every Saturday (which for me is very often).  I'm either going to stop for a month or bump it up to 20mg's.  Think I'm getting used to it.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: JAGO on April 25, 2020, 06:03:13 AM
Been taking an edible every Saturday (which for me is very often).  I'm either going to stop for a month or bump it up to 20mg's.  Think I'm getting used to it.

I own a wholesale dispensary supply company, so I have a bit of insight. Edibles are made from different strains ( by and large ) so you may adapt to the strain. I’d suggest trying a different product at the same dose. Bumping it up too early ( prior to physical tolerances developing ) might not be the path forward.


J
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: JAGO on April 26, 2020, 06:13:52 AM
This him?

https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/miami/press-releases/2009/mm032009.htm

And they always say that nobody went to jail after the housing crisis! Well, Mr. Gaines did.

Deerfield Beach Title Agent Sentenced to Jail for Role in Mortgage Fraud Scheme


R. Alexander Acosta, United States Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, Jonathan I. Solomon, Special Agent in Charge, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Henry Gutierrez, Postal Inspector in Charge, U.S. Postal Inspection Service, and Alex Hager, Acting Commissioner, Florida Department of Financial Regulation, announced today’s sentencing of defendant Howard Gaines for his role in a complex mortgage fraud scheme.  Gaines, an attorney and a licensed title agent with ran Your Title Choice, Inc., in Deerfield Beach, FL., was sentenced by U.S. District Judge William Dimitrouleas to 8 years in prison, to be followed by 3 years of supervised release.  In addition, Gaines was ordered to pay restitution in the amount of $422,465 to three lenders.
A jury convicted Gaines in December 2008 on one count of conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud and two counts of mail fraud.
This is the sixth conviction in this case, following five earlier guilty pleas by other conspirators.  According to the evidence presented at trial, Gaines, as a title agent, aided co-conspirator Anthony Dehaney and others to close on fraudulent loans.  Among the fraudulent documents presented at closings were HUD 1 Settlement Forms, which falsely represented that buyers were using their own money to close on the purchases.  The evidence showed that Gaines helped Dehaney close more than $10,000,000 in loans during 2004, 2005, and 2006, including $5,000,000 in fraudulent mortgages.
Mr. Acosta commended the investigative efforts of the FBI, U.S. Postal Inspection Service, and the State of Florida Office of Financial Regulation for their work on this case.  The case is being prosecuted by Assistant United States Attorneys Jeffrey Kay and Jennifer Keene of the Fort Lauderdale Office.
A copy of this press release may be found on the website of the United States Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Florida at www.usdoj.gov/usao/fls.  Related court documents and information may be found on the website of the District Court for the Southern District of Florida at www.flsd.uscourts.gov or on http://pacer.flsd.uscourts.gov

Just saw this - are you saying a Howard is her father? Apples don’t fall far from trees - fathers a scumbag, odds are so are the kids. However if one Marry’s a scumbag, the odds are infinitely higher. Safe bet - she is a scum bag too.

J
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: AbrahamG on April 29, 2020, 06:42:06 AM
I own a wholesale dispensary supply company, so I have a bit of insight. Edibles are made from different strains ( by and large ) so you may adapt to the strain. I’d suggest trying a different product at the same dose. Bumping it up too early ( prior to physical tolerances developing ) might not be the path forward.


J

Thanks Jago. I'll try this. A 10mg buzz is the perfect feel. Love those things.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: a_pupil on April 29, 2020, 06:57:01 AM
Is robert dimaggio mobbed up?

Fart powder and steroids have a bigger mark up than heroin, so it makes sense the mafia has made a resurgence the past decade
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: IronMagazine.com on April 30, 2020, 02:00:13 PM
Hmmmm....it seems that my post was deleted.

Did PJ contact Ron? lol
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: IronMagazine.com on April 30, 2020, 02:08:58 PM
Well if anyone would like for me to take the time to tell you Aaron and PJ's entire history which began with me let me know and I will post it all again.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Flexacon on April 30, 2020, 05:10:58 PM
Well if anyone would like for me to take the time to tell you Aaron and PJ's entire history which began with me let me know and I will post it all again.

Either post it again or don't. Just stop being a drama queen.

But yeah post it. Love the drama  ;D
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: stuntmovie on April 30, 2020, 07:52:28 PM
IRON, I know zilch about this ... so I look forward to reading  if you'll post it here.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on May 01, 2020, 08:28:27 AM
Well if anyone would like for me to take the time to tell you Aaron and PJ's entire history which began with me let me know and I will post it all again.

Not sure who deleted it... but I’d also love to hear the story. 👍
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: OlympiaGym on May 02, 2020, 04:58:03 AM
Either post it again or don't. Just stop being a drama queen.

But yeah post it. Love the drama  ;D

Exactly.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: JAGO on May 02, 2020, 08:09:22 AM
Well if anyone would like for me to take the time to tell you Aaron and PJ's entire history which began with me let me know and I will post it all again.

Send it to me in a PM (if you’d be kind enough.) I did send links to this site and these threads to American Greed.

J

Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: michael arvilla on May 02, 2020, 08:18:06 AM
Send it to me in a PM (if you’d be kind enough.) I did send links to this site and these threads to American Greed.

J
did you?! ...  lol that’s awesome! (Make a great episode)
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: ESFitness on May 02, 2020, 09:37:18 AM
Fuck this looks like amateur-hour. Using actual EMAIL to talk about not-legal shit? With their actual names?

Use a fucken burner email, or burner text msg for fucks sake.

They had one of their guys act like an FDA agent to move the mislabeled supplements -

"On or about August 4, 2016, JAMES BOCCUZZI, sent an email to a wholesale customer and attached a document entitled "Certificate of Free Sale," which falsely described BOCCUZZI as an FDA employee. In the email, BOCCUZZI wrote, "This is the best I can do. I dont [sic] even feel comfortable doing this because I am impersonating the FDA and our business could get shut down, tons of people will lose their jobs." "

They tried hide the sale of prohormones -

"On or about February 16, 2017, ANTHONY VENTRELLA, after being informed that a search warrant was being conducted by FDA at VENTRELLA's business, sent a text message to one of his employees that said, "Shit. If you can hide the pros [prohormones] please
do." "

They knew it was illegal to sell Ostarine under their "Ostapure" -

"On or about October 9, 2015, PHILLIP BRAUN answered an email from a customer about SARMs, including Ostapure, and said, "Illegal to sell them!"

They established a bunch of shell corps to funnel the illegal supplements through -

"On or about March 13, 2014, ROBERT DIMAGGIO, in an email to AARON SINGERMAN about FDA enforcement announcements concerning the designer steroid products Methadrol and Super DMZ RX 2.0, told SINGERMAN that"[ o ]nee you get an FDA letter I would move all of the MDE and SDMZ that is left to a different location (in case they show up), and remove them from the website, and sell it to the retailers only [ un ]til its [sic] gone."

"On or about April 16, 2014, AARON SINGERMAN, PHILLIP BRAUN, ANTHONY VENTRELLA, and Unindicted Co-conspirator 2 caused Fight Pharm to be incorporated under the laws of Florida as a limited liability company."

Etc, etc....

But, yes, it is some grand plot to “to destroy the weightlifting industry”  ::).

Here's the indictment, pages 11 - 17, under "overt acts" really lays out how dumb these guys were. There are 12 year old crack dealers that are smarter than these guys -

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1143411/download .
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: JAGO on May 02, 2020, 10:09:35 AM
Reading that over . . . One starts to think about episodes of Gilligan's Island- The skipper and Gillian go into the supplement business.

J
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: Dave D on May 02, 2020, 11:10:46 AM
Fuck this looks like amateur-hour. Using actual EMAIL to talk about not-legal shit? With their actual names?

Use a fucken burner email, or burner text msg for fucks sake.

Where have you been?

You had us worried.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: JAGO on May 02, 2020, 12:01:44 PM
did you?! ...  lol that’s awesome! (Make a great episode)

I sure did . . . I think it would make a fucken episode.

J
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: michael arvilla on May 02, 2020, 12:19:02 PM
Dumb ass question: but... wasn’t there enough money to be made selling Legal (overpriced ) supplements ... like Redcon is doing now?!! (Why risk it all selling “ grey area “ or downright illegal supplements?!!!... might have been a slower climb to riches but you wouldn’t be looking at bankruptcy and jail!
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: BB on May 02, 2020, 12:31:41 PM
Dumb ass question: but... wasn’t there enough money to be made selling Legal (overpriced ) supplements ... like Redcon is doing now?!! (Why risk it all selling “ grey area “ or downright illegal supplements?!!!... might have been a slower climb to riches but you wouldn’t be looking at bankruptcy and jail!

If they tried to get in legit, I doubt they would've made it. Singerman wasn't a big name in the business, and PJ was a 3rd, 4th tier guy, and when they got into the business, no one wanted legal supplements. All the kids wanted the grey market stuff.

PJ and Aaron's big problem is that they liked the money too much. There are dozens of guys that made fortunes on the stuff, then left, and were never really bothered by the FDA or the DEA.  PJ and Aaron just kept trying to go to the well one more time, when the well was already bone dry.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: michael arvilla on May 02, 2020, 01:49:49 PM
If they tried to get in legit, I doubt they would've made it. Singerman wasn't a big name in the business, and PJ was a 3rd, 4th tier guy, and when they got into the business, no one wanted legal supplements. All the kids wanted the grey market stuff.

PJ and Aaron's big problem is that they liked the money too much. There are dozens of guys that made fortunes on the stuff, then left, and were never really bothered by the FDA or the DEA.  PJ and Aaron just kept trying to go to the well one more time, when the well was already bone dry.
ok .. thanks for clearing that up (so are they in trouble because they kept selling illegal supplements, and someone got hurt? Or is it income tax evasion or both? .... seems Redcon is doing quite well and now he might lose it all?!  . ... Palumbo/Cutler /Levrone all have decent selling supplement lines should have took a page out of their books and tread lightly And slowly!
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: michael arvilla on May 02, 2020, 01:56:19 PM
PJ had Evan Centopani on board for a short while (Blackstone?) ,if Aaron And him had used Evan as the “face” of the company and sold high quality legit supplements, LoL I think they would be in a much better spot! (That seems like a no brainer)
Title: Re: Braun and Singerman update
Post by: ESFitness on May 02, 2020, 02:18:06 PM
Where have you been?

You had us worried.

Chillin
Title: Bodybuilders Battle Against Charges of Selling Illegal Dietary Supplements
Post by: JAGO on May 28, 2020, 04:59:25 AM
So now they are yelling prosecutor misconduct - the last bastion of the guilty.

The bodybuilders made millions selling products designed to help their clients bulk up, but the government accuses them of fraudulently peddling dietary supplements containing dangerous designer drugs and illegal steroids.

Declaring the prosecution an effort by the government “to destroy the weightlifting industry,” the muscle men have promised to beat the case for the good of iron-pumpers everywhere.

If you listen to the defense, it’s a case of how Boca Raton-based Blackstone Labs and Ventech Labs turned selling dietary supplements into business success. If you listen to prosecutors, it’s a tale of South Florida salesmen making millions peddling compounds of questionable legality and safety.

RELATED: Six charged with distributing illegal dietary supplements »
The government, in its 49-page, 14-count indictment, charges that Phillip Braun, Aaron Singerman, Robert DiMaggio, Anthony Ventrella, David Winsauer and James Boccuzzi conspired to sell hundreds of thousands of illegal products, including dietary supplements containing possibly dangerous designer steroids known as “prohormones."

All of the accused, with the exception of DiMaggio, are from South Florida.

The indictment alleges that six men and the two companies they owned distributed the purportedly dangerous products even though they knew they might be harmful to consumers, and that they engaged in litigation to silence the complaints of people who their product sickened.

“When you sell a product that doesn’t have a label that includes ingredients, that’s a crime,” argued Assistant United States Attorney David Frank to the federal judge during the hearing.

Arguing that the ingredients found in their products were either “natural,” or unregulated, Blackstone Labs CEO Phillip Braun and his four co-defendants have consistently denied the charges. In a statement released by Blackstone following the indictment, the company called the accusations “false and inaccurate” and accused the government of meddling in the nutritional supplement industry.

One defendant, Nevada-based Robert DiMaggio, pleaded guilty on Nov. 19.

On Monday and Tuesday, the weightlifters, who are out on bond, packed the courtroom of U.S. District Judge William P. Dimitrouleas as the judge held a marathon series of motion hearings to try and resolve a complicated set of legal issues that have arisen in the case.

Lawyers for the bodybuilders have themselves leveled accusations of prosecutorial misconduct against the government, claiming that Assistant United States Attorneys failed to turn over key evidence in a timely fashion.

In court filings, the defense attorneys claim the evidence in question shows that at least some of the performance-enhancing substances their clients are charged with selling weren’t actually illegal.

The attorneys also have moved to suppress evidence and dismiss five of the 14 charges against their clients. In one instance, court records show defense attorneys moving to exclude from possible future jury consideration a YouTube video of one of the defendants using a supplement and then copulating with an inflatable blow up doll in an attempt to show how well the product worked.

Title: Re: Bodybuilders Battle Against Charges of Selling Illegal Dietary Supplements
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 28, 2020, 05:00:50 AM
roberts the only smart one and pj has a pj (puny joint)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders Battle Against Charges of Selling Illegal Dietary Supplements
Post by: wes on May 28, 2020, 07:05:03 AM
Dangerous Prohormones............. ......Idiots !!
 ::)
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 29, 2020, 06:26:53 AM
PJ is an absolute retard. Saw a clip on IG where he was talking about SARMs and anabolic steroids and the guy knows jack shit about either but acts like he's some expert.

And now he is selling some Green Tea pills as potent anabolics Lol.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Rambone on May 29, 2020, 06:44:07 AM
If Aaron goes to prison, will they still produce Redcon’s MRE fart powder? I feel guilty supporting a conman and consuming Chinese raws, but it’s honestly the best tasting fartprotein powder I’ve ever had. Probably has no protein in it, just apple cobbler mix.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: michael arvilla on May 29, 2020, 06:47:24 AM

In one instance, court records show defense attorneys moving to exclude from possible future jury consideration a YouTube video of one of the defendants using a supplement and then copulating with an inflatable blow up doll in an attempt to show how well the product worked.................. Wait ...................What?!?!
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: MAXX on May 29, 2020, 06:47:44 AM
PJ had Evan Centopani on board for a short while (Blackstone?) ,if Aaron And him had used Evan as the “face” of the company and sold high quality legit supplements, LoL I think they would be in a much better spot! (That seems like a no brainer)
grey area or illegal supplements sells alot better than regular supplements.

I guess the kids dont have the balls to just buy regular steroids.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Flexacon on May 29, 2020, 07:22:11 AM
PJ had Evan Centopani on board for a short while (Blackstone?) ,if Aaron And him had used Evan as the “face” of the company and sold high quality legit supplements, LoL I think they would be in a much better spot! (That seems like a no brainer)

Whilst Evan has a following and is well liked, he isn't a huge name in bodybuilding.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on May 29, 2020, 07:51:27 AM
In one instance, court records show defense attorneys moving to exclude from possible future jury consideration a YouTube video of one of the defendants using a supplement and then copulating with an inflatable blow up doll in an attempt to show how well the product worked.................. Wait ...................What?!?!

Yes! I’m surprised you never saw that one? It was bizzare!
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: insider on May 29, 2020, 08:07:00 AM
If Aaron goes to prison, will they still produce Redcon’s MRE fart powder? I feel guilty supporting a conman and consuming Chinese raws, but it’s honestly the best tasting fartprotein powder I’ve ever had. Probably has no protein in it, just apple cobbler mix.

The protein in their MRE product is 99% collagen
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Taffin on May 29, 2020, 09:40:11 AM
In one instance, court records show defense attorneys moving to exclude from possible future jury consideration a YouTube video of one of the defendants using a supplement and then copulating with an inflatable blow up doll in an attempt to show how well the product worked.................. Wait ...................What?!?!

Please tell me they meant to say simulated copulation!?!!?  :P
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: michael arvilla on May 29, 2020, 10:00:43 AM
Yes! I’m surprised you never saw that one? It was bizzare!
LOL! .... is it still out there somewhere? (Not going to google “PJ Braun Bangs blowup doll”)
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 29, 2020, 10:30:20 AM
If Aaron goes to prison, will they still produce Redcon’s MRE fart powder? I feel guilty supporting a conman and consuming Chinese raws, but it’s honestly the best tasting fartprotein powder I’ve ever had. Probably has no protein in it, just apple cobbler mix.


Aaron is not going to prison
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Skeletor on May 29, 2020, 10:34:05 AM

Aaron is not going to prison

How do you know?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 29, 2020, 06:20:27 PM
How do you know?

He looked in his crystal ball and it told him so.

Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Rambone on May 29, 2020, 06:32:07 PM

Aaron is not going to prison

Thank god my favorite fart powder is not in any danger
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: SF1900 on May 30, 2020, 12:52:09 AM

Aaron is not going to prison

Tell us more, Dr. Goodrum, PhD, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO!
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: JAGO on May 30, 2020, 02:26:47 AM

Aaron is not going to prison

I have $500 USD that says he is. You want the bet?

J
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 30, 2020, 01:00:29 PM
I am so sure Vince is wrong, I would bet any amount of $ on it.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Rambone on June 18, 2020, 03:02:08 PM
Singerman’s neighborhood....could it be him or some other Jew?  ???

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/delray-beach/fl-ne-delray-beach-fbi-seven-bridges-community-20200618-nr5c6mandbgyhefvozrmuuyfdu-story.html

The FBI is on scene in a gated community west of Delray Beach.
An FBI spokesman says agents are at the Seven Bridges community on “court ordered law enforcement activity,” Sun Sentinel news partner CBS12 reports.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: ziballz on July 25, 2020, 02:16:54 AM
Trial set for October 26th  :D

(https://preview.redd.it/i9nzt9u64xc51.jpg?width=571&auto=webp&s=9237c3b6c0bc1314d9618c99dad250f9f1471e98)
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 25, 2020, 08:18:09 AM
Probably won't make it to trial.  They will get to September and take a plea deal.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: IronMagazine.com on September 28, 2020, 09:53:37 PM
New court date set for June 21, 2021.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: JAGO on September 29, 2020, 06:01:47 AM
i’d like to see singerman in a jail cell with his head beat in. Fucken crook.

J
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 29, 2020, 06:52:24 AM
New court date set for June 21, 2021.


Fuck off
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 29, 2020, 08:10:02 AM

Fuck off

Why?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Body-Buildah on September 29, 2020, 12:13:43 PM
Why?

Vince thinks Rob (IronMag) ratted out PJ Fraud and Aaron Singerjew.  ::)
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 29, 2020, 12:27:05 PM
Vince thinks Rob (IronMag) ratted out PJ Fraud and Aaron Singerjew.  ::)

Kind of hard to rat out someone that the feds and FDA were already watching.  It wasn't like they were trying to hide anything.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Rascal full on September 29, 2020, 12:41:25 PM
i’d like to see singerman in a jail cell with his head beat in. Fucken crook.

J

Something very sly and devious just oozes from this dude. Having said that he was the driving force behind Blackstone and without him PJ slowly running it into the ground. Singerman went on and made Redcon1 a big player and obvious money-spinner, he knows the formula and has the drive to make things happen. I wouldn't trust him to make me a cup of coffee though and surprised he hasn't started ratting everyone out.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 29, 2020, 05:42:24 PM
Why?

Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 30, 2020, 05:31:52 AM


That explains nothing.  Mainly because I am not listening to it.

But did you attempt to snitch on them?  If so, why?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Stephano on March 05, 2021, 11:03:58 PM
So what's with these two?  Trial in a few months?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: IronMagazine.com on June 17, 2021, 11:53:44 AM
Kind of hard to rat out someone that the feds and FDA were already watching.  It wasn't like they were trying to hide anything.

Exactly.

New trial date is Oct. 12, 2021
https://www.justice.gov/civil/consumer-protection-branch/case/united-states-v-braun-etal
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: IronMagazine.com on June 20, 2021, 12:37:54 AM
This was a new development last month that will be quite troublesome: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/supplement-retailers-plead-guilty-cases-involving-distribution-designer-steroids-dietary
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: ziballz on June 20, 2021, 04:21:13 AM
This was a new development last month that will be quite troublesome: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/supplement-retailers-plead-guilty-cases-involving-distribution-designer-steroids-dietary

https://www.naturalproductsinsider.com/sports-nutrition/guilty-pleas-some-connected-blackstone-steroids-indictment

Wow so according to this recent article two schmoes named Shemtob and Smith, who bought the drugs ahem supplements from blackstone labs are facing 10 years in prison for federal drug distribution offences. Both have entered guilty pleas since.
No doubt their co-operation which includes under-cover work apparently :D... should help in reducing their sentences.

Also both of them have agreed to forfeit more than $64,00 and $558,000 respectively as part of their plea agreement.  :o

So the real question is....
If these two guys have been advised by their lawyers to enter guilty pleas and fully co-operate with the prosecutors...What are PJ and Singerman's lawyers telling them ???  They've instead decided to go to trial on Oct. 12th lmao!

PJ and Singerman have bad representation.... I think the Judge is gonna throw the book at these two and make a real example out of them too  ;D
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: IronMagazine.com on June 20, 2021, 11:26:08 AM
So the real question is....
If these two guys have been advised by their lawyers to enter guilty pleas and fully co-operate with the prosecutors...What are PJ and Singerman's lawyers telling them ???  They've instead decided to go to trial on Oct. 12th lmao!

lawyers make a lot more money going to trial, so do the math. lol
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 20, 2021, 12:04:04 PM
Supplement sellers = bad.

Riot & Burn down cities = Good.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: IronMagazine.com on June 20, 2021, 06:05:10 PM
Supplement sellers = bad.

Riot & Burn down cities = Good.

what u talking about? this is the FDA caring about our health.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Flexacon on June 20, 2021, 06:30:41 PM
Do you know what's going with Boca James?

He was always good entertainment on social.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Rambone on June 20, 2021, 06:45:58 PM
I saw Singerman on a bike about two months ago in west Delray about a mile or two from his home. Appeared to have not a care in the world.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: TheGrinch on June 20, 2021, 08:04:48 PM
Nothing is going to happen to them... its been years already
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: youandme on June 21, 2021, 06:13:28 AM
Nothing is going to happen to them... its been years already

I would hope not, but it’s the feds. All the resources in the world and unlimited budget.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: IronMagazine.com on June 21, 2021, 02:00:42 PM
Nothing is going to happen to them... its been years already

the 5 people going to trial October 12 is just a joke?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: deadz on June 21, 2021, 03:37:42 PM
Nothing is going to happen to them... its been years already
You are uneducated.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: TheGrinch on June 21, 2021, 04:19:59 PM
the 5 people going to trial October 12 is just a joke?

they'll do something to drag it out even more.. then have the next court date july 2022, then something else brought up and moved to Nov 2023, then blah blah.. then 2 more years pass and nothing..

someone's getting paid off somewhere to keep everything moving but never going to court

jews and their buddies never serve time.. they just pay off whomever they need to pay or snitch on whomever they need to in order to never see the inside of a cell
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: IronMagazine.com on June 21, 2021, 04:33:40 PM
I saw Singerman on a bike about two months ago in west Delray about a mile or two from his home. Appeared to have not a care in the world.

I am sure the same thing can be said about Jeffrey Epstein before he was arrested by the feds and taken to jail.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: IronMagazine.com on June 21, 2021, 04:34:18 PM
they'll do something to drag it out even more.. then have the next court date july 2022, then something else brought up and moved to Nov 2023, then blah blah.. then 2 more years pass and nothing..

someone's getting paid off somewhere to keep everything moving but never going to court

jews and their buddies never serve time.. they just pay off whomever they need to pay or snitch on whomever they need to in order to never see the inside of a cell

The trial was postponed twice due to COVID.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Rambone on June 21, 2021, 05:37:01 PM
I am sure the same thing can be said about Jeffrey Epstein before he was arrested by the feds and taken to jail.

Probably. Same tribe.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: IronMagazine.com on June 25, 2021, 10:12:35 AM
Former Supplement Company Owner Pleads Guilty to Unlawful Distribution of Anabolic Steroids and Steroid-Like Drugs

https://www.fda.gov/inspections-compliance-enforcement-and-criminal-investigations/press-releases/former-supplement-company-owner-pleads-guilty-unlawful-distribution-anabolic-steroids-and-steroid
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: TheGrinch on June 25, 2021, 10:30:56 AM
Former Supplement Company Owner Pleads Guilty to Unlawful Distribution of Anabolic Steroids and Steroid-Like Drugs

https://www.fda.gov/inspections-compliance-enforcement-and-criminal-investigations/press-releases/former-supplement-company-owner-pleads-guilty-unlawful-distribution-anabolic-steroids-and-steroid

time served... 5 year probation imo


nothing burger... going back to driving lambos and pimping hoes
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Dave D on June 25, 2021, 10:35:37 AM
time served... 5 year probation imo


nothing burger... going back to driving lambos and pimping hoes

Dont ruin his fantasy regarding this day of reckoning.

The hope is the financial hit and prison time will break them, the fact is the accountants will make any potential fines levied tax write offs for the current company.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: IronMagazine.com on June 26, 2021, 10:42:22 PM
Dont ruin his fantasy regarding this day of reckoning.

The hope is the financial hit and prison time will break them, the fact is the accountants will make any potential fines levied tax write offs for the current company.


Wow this is great news, I did not know! Hey bro you obviously have an extensive education/background in criminal law, would you be willing to write an article for my blog (see my profile) on how individuals federally indicted (14 indictments in this case) for selling controlled substances (anabolic steroids) have nothing to be worried about other than a little probation and a tax right off? I thought Rick Collins knew his shit but you must be the man. Please send me a PM so we can discuss the details, including other cases to prove your point.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: youandme on June 27, 2021, 11:27:46 AM
Dont ruin his fantasy regarding this day of reckoning.

The hope is the financial hit and prison time will break them, the fact is the accountants will make any potential fines levied tax write offs for the current company.

If that were the case, then they’d have pled out by now and offered a big money fine to avoid prison. Feds don’t play around and they have the witnesses they need and an unlimited amount of resources - the odds of not being broken by them are slim.

They’re fighting for their freedom and also the Feds in this case are going after a company and have the power to prevent the company and any individual linked or doing business under the company name or otherwise from ever selling any type of supplement again. In fact, you can be ordered never to have any involvement in the industry for the rest of your life or a time negotiated upon.

Same goes with people linked to stock scams, etc.

Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: rollin on June 27, 2021, 06:45:43 PM
Don't forget the guys who owned USP Labs were pretty wealthy and got Jail Time. I'm sure Aarons and PJs lawyers are aware of this
and trying to prevent it. Also PJ calling out the fda in that video probably didnt help.

Here is what happened to USP Labs owners
https://muscleinsider.com/news/usp-labs-owner-and-his-president-going-jail
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Dave D on June 27, 2021, 11:20:34 PM
Wow this is great news, I did not know! Hey bro you obviously have an extensive education/background in criminal law, would you be willing to write an article for my blog (see my profile) on how individuals federally indicted (14 indictments in this case) for selling controlled substances (anabolic steroids) have nothing to be worried about other than a little probation and a tax right off? I thought Rick Collins knew his shit but you must be the man. Please send me a PM so we can discuss the details, including other cases to prove your point.

Lol

Looks like I really upset the getbig legal team.

I'll wait for Soulcrusher to chime in.

Bro just breathe. I know you hate PJ and Aaron. You're convinced they're going down so why get worked up over anyone who says otherwise?  I cant imagine anyone would want to be in their shoes.


If that were the case, then they’d have pled out by now and offered a big money fine to avoid prison. Feds don’t play around and they have the witnesses they need and an unlimited amount of resources - the odds of not being broken by them are slim.

They’re fighting for their freedom and also the Feds in this case are going after a company and have the power to prevent the company and any individual linked or doing business under the company name or otherwise from ever selling any type of supplement again. In fact, you can be ordered never to have any involvement in the industry for the rest of your life or a time negotiated upon.

Same goes with people linked to stock scams, etc.



If they were knowingly selling steroids, and I thought at one time they had forged documents or had impersonated a FDA official, they will get what is coming to them. The fact that they still in business and Singerman immediately started a new company without repercussions (if what I insinuated is correct) is interesting.

I was friends with a CPA who forged federal documents, he was skimming money from payroll systems he oversaw, who was convicted,  did time and lost his license but was able to sell/transfer his business to a family member. He owed a little over $1.5 million in restitution, that I think he payed a fraction of (and I could be completely wrong) and now owns recycling business.

I have an old neighbor under federal investigation for mortgage fraud, the FBI shut down the whole block, used concussion or flash grenades to enter the home and escorted the whole family out of the house, along with a bunch of possessions. The agents on the scene were telling the neighbors he was going away for a long time, this was 2 years ago and nothing has come from it yet.

The government isnt going to pursue cases they dont think are slam dunks. As I said I would not want to be in Aaron and PJ's shoes.

But I say all this to point out these guys will try to hide as much money (if there is any) as they can and probably have a backup plan ready.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: IronMagazine.com on June 28, 2021, 03:01:39 PM
Lol

Looks like I really upset the getbig legal team.

I'll wait for Soulcrusher to chime in.

Bro just breathe. I know you hate PJ and Aaron. You're convinced they're going down so why get worked up over anyone who says otherwise?  I cant imagine anyone would want to be in their shoes.

Oh Davey pooh the only one upset here is you cause I made you look and feel like an ignorant fool, but nice back peddling. We don't need a legal team or your buddy Soulcrusher to chime in, it's common sense. And I don't hate anyone that is a waste of energy, my life is fine and I have no worries.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Dave D on June 28, 2021, 03:24:13 PM
Oh Davey pooh the only one upset here is you cause I made you look and feel like an ignorant fool, but nice back peddling. We don't need a legal team or your buddy Soulcrusher to chime in, it's common sense. And I don't hate anyone that is a waste of energy, my life is fine and I have no worries.

Lol you made me look like a fool? I do that on my own with zero help. You freaked out because I trolled you. Sorry.

 
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Dave D on November 19, 2021, 12:07:45 PM
Well if anyone would like for me to take the time to tell you Aaron and PJ's entire history which began with me let me know and I will post it all again.

Post it!

How did you become such a PJ and Aaron insider without knowing them?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: IronMagazine.com on November 19, 2021, 12:28:26 PM
Post it!

How did you become such a PJ and Aaron insider without knowing them?

you have a good memory. lol
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: deadz on November 19, 2021, 12:31:06 PM
you have a good memory. lol
You’re a c unt liar now gtfo, c unt.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: IronMagazine.com on November 19, 2021, 12:37:05 PM
You’re a c unt liar now gtfo, c unt.

the one thing I do not do is lie.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Dave D on November 19, 2021, 12:49:46 PM
you have a good memory. lol

We only have 25 regular members. It’s a small family here.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: AbrahamG on November 24, 2021, 11:46:03 PM
Post it!

How did you become such a PJ and Aaron insider without blowing them?

Don't worry Dave.  He did.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: IronMagazine.com on November 25, 2021, 12:14:28 AM
Don't worry Dave.  He did.

Oh look you're my little fan boy now. :)
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20 - discussion
Post by: Ron on January 27, 2022, 04:39:50 PM
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/blackstone-labs-founder-sentenced-conspiracy-sell-anabolic-steroids-and-unlawful-dietary

Blackstone Labs Founder Sentenced for Conspiracy to Sell Anabolic Steroids and Unlawful Dietary Supplements
A South Florida man who founded a sports and dietary supplements retailer was sentenced today to 54 months in prison for conspiring to sell illegal anabolic steroids and other products marketed as dietary supplements that were unlawful under federal law. 

According to court documents, Aaron Singerman, 41, of Delray Beach, Florida, founded and operated Blackstone Labs LLC, a Boca Raton-based sports and dietary supplements retailer. Singerman is the former CEO of Blackstone. U.S. District Court Judge William P. Dimitrouleas of the Southern District of Florida sentenced Singerman to 54 months in prison and ordered him to forfeit $2.9 million.

In pleading guilty, Singerman admitted to leading a conspiracy to sell products through Blackstone labeled as dietary supplements that were illegal under federal law because they were not approved by the FDA and were controlled substances. According to court documents, Blackstone defrauded the FDA as part of the scheme.

“Selling products labelled as dietary supplements that actually contain controlled substances and unapproved drugs is illegal and potentially dangerous,” said Acting Assistant Attorney General Brian M. Boynton of the Justice Department’s Civil Division. “The Department of Justice will work with its law enforcement partners to prosecute dietary supplement makers who ignore the law and disregard public safety for monetary gain.”

“Drug products that are disguised as dietary supplements can pose a risk to the health of U.S. consumers,” said Special Agent in Charge Justin C. Fielder of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration Office of Criminal Investigations (FDA OCI) Miami Field Office. “We will continue to investigate and bring to justice those who jeopardize the public health.”

Singerman specifically admitted that he conspired with others from 2012 through 2017 to sell products that were unapproved new drugs and/or illegal controlled substances under the Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act. The defendant admitted that he and his co-conspirators lied to consumers by characterizing Blackstone products as safe and legal dietary supplements. In addition, he falsely represented that the products were made in “FDA approved” registered facilities that followed all required regulations, when in fact they were not. Singerman also admitted to controlling a supplement manufacturer that fraudulently imported raw ingredients for their products from China. Singerman admitted to selling other products in violation of the Food, Drug & Cosmetic Act, including the synthetic stimulants DMAA and DMBA, and the chemical picamilon. Singerman and his co-conspirators ignored injury reports from consumers and did not notify the FDA of such complaints, even when required by law.

Six additional individual defendants and three other corporations previously pleaded guilty to charges related to the conspiracy. One additional defendant, James Boccuzzi, was convicted of conspiracy to distribute controlled substances and conspiracy to defraud the FDA following a jury trial in December 2021. All 10 of these additional defendants are scheduled to be sentenced by Judge Dimitrouleas in February. 
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Aaron Singerman Court Update - 03-04-20
Post by: Dave D on January 27, 2022, 05:27:10 PM
Don't worry Dave.  He did.
LOL