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Looks like the overwhelming majority of the country disagrees with President Biden that Voter ID is "the new Jim Crow" or "Jim Crow on steroids."
Poll: 80% Of Americans Support Voter ID
BY BECKY NOBLE
JUNE 21, 2021
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/poll-80-of-americans-support-voter-id/?utm_source=home-headline-stories
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Creepy Joe wouldn't know logic if hit hit him in the forehead.
Just trying to build their base of losers for future votes. Need a ID for everything, bt not to vote, that would be "racisssssssssssssssst" ::)
Dumbest kvnts in history these demturds.
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I don't get it. I don't buy into the arguments.
One of them being... some people can't afford an ID?
Total BS. We need voter ID period.
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I don't get it. I don't buy into the arguments.
One of them being... some people can't afford an ID?
Total BS. We need voter ID period.
No way. How are the Mexicans gonna vote then?
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No way. How are the Mexicans gonna vote then?
They can't vote in the United States of America and neither can you
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The US government should create a voter ID and make access to it available in every city in the country
I'd be fine with that
I'm also fine with Manchin's proposal which includes alternative forms of ID such as a utility bill
The fact is that there are people in this country (very poor people and elderly people) who don't have a photo ID and they should not be disenfranchised
In fact, if we actually care about voting in this country we should be looking for ways to expand voter turnout which could include making election day a national holiday
BTW - that same poll showed that 50% want to make vote-by-mail easier and 69% support national guidelines for early voting.
Anyone who is actually against increasing voter turnout should at least have the balls to admit that rather than cloaking themselves in bullshit excuses.
How about we just have a national voter registry and everyone is added to it the day they turn 18.
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They can't vote in the United States of America and neither can you
They can and they do
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The US government should create a voter ID and make access to it available in every city in the country
I'd be fine with that
I'm also fine with Manchin's proposal which includes alternative forms of ID such as a utility bill
The fact is that there are people in this country (very poor people and elderly people) who don't have a photo ID and they should not be disenfranchised
In fact, if we actually care about voting in this country we should be looking for ways to expand voter turnout which could include making election day a national holiday
BTW - that same poll showed that 50% want to make vote-by-mail easier and 69% support national guidelines for early voting.
Anyone who is actually against increasing voter turnout should at least have the balls to admit that rather than cloaking themselves in bullshit excuses.
How about we just have a national voter registry and everyone is added to it the day they turn 18.
I have no issue with making it a holiday.
But the ID thing is BS.
You need an ID to do basically anything.
Offer a state issued ID if someone can't afford a license.
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I don't get it. I don't buy into the arguments.
One of them being... some people can't afford an ID?
Total BS. We need voter ID period.
Of course we do. They just want to make it easier to cheat.
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My drivers license has my photo on it.
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They can't vote in the United States of America and neither can you
BS, it's so easy to get rego as fake American !.
Before US election, rego desks were in Sydney,Brisbane,Melbourne,...............
Inform yourself Bob ::)
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My drivers license has my photo on it.
*Racist post reported*
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I have no issue with making it a holiday.
But the ID thing is BS.
You need an ID to do basically anything.
Offer a state issued ID if someone can't afford a license.
100%. I’d go so far as to give the folks on welfare/fixed incomes some sort of cash rebate to go and get an ID. But, I think all people who are legally eligible to vote should be able to. I just think the absentee voting makes it a little lazy and easier to play the system.
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100%. I’d go so far as to give the folks on welfare/fixed incomes some sort of cash rebate to go and get an ID. But, I think all people who are legally eligible to vote should be able to. I just think the absentee voting makes it a little lazy and easier to play the system.
Correct on the absentee.
But the ID thing = watch the video of the dude who goes into Harlem asking if people don't have IDs....they basically look at him like he's nuts. People have IDs.
And, if they don't, the state can give them one.
Very simple.
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Let's look at the rest of that poll
I doubt anyone here would object to expanding early voting and making it more accessible...right?
This gives people plenty of time if they want to vote and would greatly reduce voting day problems if you don't have an ID or some other requirement
I think everyone here is 100% in favor of making sure that every single eligible voter has easy access to voting and is not disenfranchised in any way.
West Long Branch, NJ – Most Americans support both easier access to early voting and requiring photo identification to vote, according to the Monmouth (“Mon-muth”) University Poll. The public is more divided on expanding vote-by-mail, although a majority would like to see some national voting guidelines established for federal elections. The poll also finds that only one-third of the public believes “audits” of the 2020 election results are legitimate efforts to uncover irregularities. Moreover, one-third of Americans continue to believe Joe Biden won the presidency only due to voter fraud – a steady trend since November that underlines the crystallization of our nation’s deep partisan divide.
A large majority (71%) of the public feels in-person early voting should generally be made easier. Just 16% say it should be made harder. Opinion is more divided on voting by mail – 50% say this should be made easier and 39% say it should be made harder. At the same time, fully 4 in 5 Americans (80%) support requiring voters to show photo identification in order to cast a ballot. Just 18% oppose this.
Easing in-person early voting access and requiring photo IDs both have bipartisan majority support. Approval of making early voting easier stands at 89% among Democrats, 68% among independents, and 56% among Republicans. Support for requiring a photo ID to vote stands at 62% among Democrats, 87% among independents, and 91% among Republicans. Only Democrats back making voting by mail easier to do, with 84% supporting this idea compared to just 40% of independents and 26% of Republicans.
More than 2 in 3 Americans (69%) support establishing national guidelines to allow vote-by-mail and in-person early voting in federal elections in every state. Just 25% oppose this idea. Support for establishing national voting guidelines on these issues comes from 92% of Democrats, 63% of independents, and 51% of Republicans.
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_062121/
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No way. How are the Mexicans gonna vote then?
Good point.
They require voter ID verified with a thumb print to vote in Mexico.
Go figure.
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The US government should create a voter ID and make access to it available in every city in the country
I'd be fine with that
I'm also fine with Manchin's proposal which includes alternative forms of ID such as a utility bill
The fact is that there are people in this country (very poor people and elderly people) who don't have a photo ID and they should not be disenfranchised
In fact, if we actually care about voting in this country we should be looking for ways to expand voter turnout which could include making election day a national holiday
BTW - that same poll showed that 50% want to make vote-by-mail easier and 69% support national guidelines for early voting.
Anyone who is actually against increasing voter turnout should at least have the balls to admit that rather than cloaking themselves in bullshit excuses.
How about we just have a national voter registry and everyone is added to it the day they turn 18.
How about we don't. It's not that hard to register to vote.
Basically, you're just abdicating for the lazy. Every election in which I've voted (even when I didn't have a car), I was able to EASILY get to a polling station and vote ON TIME, usually after I got off work.
We don't need a national holiday nor do people need to be forced to register, because next thing you'll want to force people to vote.
A utility bill is ridiculous, at least as a primary form of ID. In Florida, you can use a utility bill to prove your residency BUT it's in addition to a photo ID. You can't use a bill by itself.
I even got to vote in 2016 in Florida, even while using my Missouri driver's license, because I had my voter registration card and my light bill, proving I lived at my house in Orlando.
We got poor and elderly people with cell phones (the size of candy bars) with which they can call anyone on the face of this earth.
Their monthly bill likely COSTS MORE MONEY than a one-time fee for a photo ID (what is it, $15 or $20?) and it lasts for YEARS.
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How about we don't. It's not that hard to register to vote.
Basically, you're just abdicating for the lazy. Every election in which I've voted (even when I didn't have a car), I was able to EASILY get to a polling station and vote ON TIME, usually after I got off work.
We don't need a national holiday nor do people need to be forced to register, because next thing you'll want to force people to vote.
A utility bill is ridiculous, at least as a primary form of ID. In Florida, you can use a utility bill to prove your address BUT it's in addition to a photo ID. You can't use a bill by itself.
We got poor and elderly people with cell phones (the size of candy bars) with which they can call anyone on the face of this earth.
Their monthly bill likely COSTS MORE MONEY than a one-time fee for a photo ID (what is it, $15 or $20?) and it lasts for YEARS.
Exactly, the whole "they can't afford it, don't have the time, don't have transportation" is a huge pile of crap
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Exactly, the whole "they can't afford it, don't have the time, don't have transportation" is a huge pile of crap
total bullshit
many people don't have a car and depend on public transportation to get to work...and everywhere else
many of those same people work multiple jobs at crazy hours just to survive and they are often single parents
no car often mean no drivers license (i.e. photo ID) - btw some states are proposing TWO FORMS of ID to request a mail in ballot.
there are plenty of people (such as Native Americans) who don't have an ID and sometimes not even a permanent residence
Just because you can't imagine how difficult it must be to show up on a certain date and stand in line for hours doesn't mean it's not a HUGE BARRIER for many others in this country
Who is going to get disenfranchised....?
It's always going to be people that are low income or at/below the poverty level. Those are the ones that will have all the issues that I've mentioned above and they have just as much right to easy access to vote as every other eligible voter in this country.
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total bullshit
many people don't have a car and depend on public transportation to get to work...and everywhere else
many of those same people work multiple jobs at crazy hours just to survive and they are often single parents
no car often mean no drivers license (i.e. photo ID) - btw some states are proposing TWO FORMS of ID to request a mail in ballot.
I didn't have a car when I first voted. I took the bus to work. All you need is a bus schedule to find out which one goes near your polling precinct, as I did. It turned out it was faster for me to walk there from my house. So I did.
there are plenty of people (such as Native Americans) who don't have an ID and sometimes not even a permanent residence
Just because you can't imagine how difficult it must be to show up on a certain date and stand in line for hours doesn't mean it's not a HUGE BARRIER for many others in this country
You don't need a driver's license, just a photo ID, which the DMV issues easily (and is cheaper, obviously, than a driver's license). Heck, it was at least 5 years between the time I got my license and the time I got my first car.
If you can't show up in person, you should have to cough up two forms of ID. I voted absentee multiple times during my military career. The standards are the same; it's just that for the military, the leg work has already been done.
It ain't hard to vote. These so-called reforms are nothing more than getting as many illegal votes as possible to benefit one party.
Notice we didn't have any trouble in Florida, even with early voting, in getting our state called in a timely matter.......especially once DeSantis got rid of those two clowns in the two areas where voter fraud was like clockwork: Broward and Palm Beach County.
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I didn't have a car when I first voted. I took the bus to work. All you need is a bus schedule to find out which one goes near your polling precinct, as I did. It turned out it was faster for me to walk there from my house. So I did.
If you can't show up in person, you should have to cough up two forms of ID. I voted absentee multiple times during my military career. The standards are the same; it's just that for the military, the leg work has already been done.
It ain't hard to vote. These so-called reforms are nothing more than getting as many illegal votes as possible to benefit one party.
Notice we didn't have any trouble in Florida, even with early voting, in getting our state called in a timely matter.......especially once DeSantis got rid of those two clowns in the two areas where voter fraud was like clockwork: Broward and Palm Beach County.
Just because you were able to get time off work and take a bus to vote doesn't mean everyone has that same access
where did you live ...a major metropolitan area or did you live in a rural area
Did you take time off work or did you have the day off
Once you arrived at the voting location how many hours did you stand in line
Did you have kids that you needed to take care of
Etc...
BTW - I've lived at my address for 20 years and I only have one form of photo ID (my passport is expired or I would have two)
I'm fine with "ID's" as long as there is a long list of acceptable alternatives such as a utility bill or something (I realize that is not a photo ID but many people don't have one and that's just a fact)
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Let's not forget the elderly who often are house bound, don't have the required ID's, etc
Here an example of the father of a rich and famous guy who wasn't going to be able to vote because he didn't have the required ID but in his case the Department of Transportation saw the rich/famous son's tweet and reached out to the father
Good luck to those who don't have rich/famous kids
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/jim-cramers-dad-saved-voter-id-issues-flna993141
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Let's not forget the elderly who often are house bound, don't have the required ID's, etc
Here an example of the father of a rich and famous guy who wasn't going to be able to vote because he didn't have the required ID but in his case the Department of Transportation saw the rich/famous son's tweet and reached out to the father
Good luck to those who don't have rich/famous kids
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/jim-cramers-dad-saved-voter-id-issues-flna993141
Elderly people have to have ID to have a bank account or to cash a social security check. They also have ID to use Medicare. This is pure democrat myth.
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Just because you were able to get time off work and take a bus to vote doesn't mean everyone has that same access
where did you live ...a major metropolitan area or did you live in a rural area
I'd hardly call St. Petersburg a major metropolitan area. But, it ain't the sticks, either.
Did you take time off work or did you have the day off
Neither. I voted when I got off work, as I've done nearly every election since then. Election Day is (supposed to be, at least) on a Tuesday.
Once you arrived at the voting location how many hours did you stand in line
0.083 hours (that's 5 minutes ;D). I got there at a quarter to 7; left there just before 7.....and that's in a predominantly black neighborhood, no less.
Did you have kids that you needed to take care of
First time I voted? No. Subsequent elections, sure. But, I either took my kids with me (and left them in the car) or my wife had them.
BTW - I've lived at my address for 20 years and I only have one form of photo ID (my passport is expired or I would have two)
I'm fine with "ID's" as long as there is a long list of acceptable alternatives such as a utility bill or something (I realize that is not a photo ID but many people don't have one and that's just a fact)
Again, photo IDs ain't that costly. You can get them at the DMV for $20 max. The poor folks about whom you lament usually already have them and use them to do numerous things from purchasing alcohol and cigarettes to cashing checks and entering night clubs.
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total bullshit
many people don't have a car and depend on public transportation to get to work...and everywhere else
many of those same people work multiple jobs at crazy hours just to survive and they are often single parents
no car often mean no drivers license (i.e. photo ID) - btw some states are proposing TWO FORMS of ID to request a mail in ballot.
there are plenty of people (such as Native Americans) who don't have an ID and sometimes not even a permanent residence
Just because you can't imagine how difficult it must be to show up on a certain date and stand in line for hours doesn't mean it's not a HUGE BARRIER for many others in this country
Who is going to get disenfranchised....?
It's always going to be people that are low income or at/below the poverty level. Those are the ones that will have all the issues that I've mentioned above and they have just as much right to easy access to vote as every other eligible voter in this country.
I don't disagree that changes can be made to voting locations and availability. I kind of like the national voting day thing. It could potentially change the current culture to that of participation. But I do not buy into changing things because people can't get it together enough to have a photo ID or that they can't afford it. It's complete nonsense.
We can't continue to lower our standards to accommodate the lowest common denominators, because all we are doing is becoming co-dependent on their poor choices.
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I don't disagree that changes can be made to voting locations and availability. I kind of like the national voting day thing. It could potentially change the current culture to that of participation. But I do not buy into changing things because people can't get it together enough to have a photo ID or that they can't afford it. It's complete nonsense.
We can't continue to lower our standards to accommodate the lowest common denominators, because all we are doing is becoming co-dependent on their poor choices.
Exactly. Why do we want lazy bums who are too inept to get ID to decide our elections?
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How about we don't. It's not that hard to register to vote.
Basically, you're just abdicating for the lazy. Every election in which I've voted (even when I didn't have a car), I was able to EASILY get to a polling station and vote ON TIME, usually after I got off work.
We don't need a national holiday nor do people need to be forced to register, because next thing you'll want to force people to vote.
A utility bill is ridiculous, at least as a primary form of ID. In Florida, you can use a utility bill to prove your residency BUT it's in addition to a photo ID. You can't use a bill by itself.
I even got to vote in 2016 in Florida, even while using my Missouri driver's license, because I had my voter registration card and my light bill, proving I lived at my house in Orlando.
We got poor and elderly people with cell phones (the size of candy bars) with which they can call anyone on the face of this earth.
Their monthly bill likely COSTS MORE MONEY than a one-time fee for a photo ID (what is it, $15 or $20?) and it lasts for YEARS.
Spot on. And it's not like people don't have 4 years to get an ID.
Also, we should not be making bad policy that adversely impacts the masses to try and remedy problems a handful of people face. We can easily assist poor or elderly people who need assistance getting an ID without making voter fraud easier.
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Spot on. And it's not like people don't have 4 years to get an ID.
Also, we should not be making bad policy that adversely impacts the masses to try and remedy problems a handful of people face. We can easily assist poor or elderly people who need assistance getting an ID without making voter fraud easier.
Exactly.
People can always find a way to do anything they truly want to.
This is the greatest country in the world. If you can't be bothered to get an ID in order to vote, maybe you shouldn't.
It's not like this is a common factor either. I don't know a single person without an ID and no ability to vote in person.
Why does our country have some of the leanest voter ID laws on the planet?
Mexico has a more secure election process. The problem is the results are completely fraudulent. But at least everyone is aware of the corruption.
Mexico just had an election, it's amazing how easy their system works. Never thought i'd compare the USA to Mexico and feel the Mexicans have a better system.
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Exactly.
People can always find a way to do anything they truly want to.
This is the greatest country in the world. If you can't be bothered to get an ID in order to vote, maybe you shouldn't.
It's not like this is a common factor either. I don't know a single person without an ID and no ability to vote in person.
Why does our country have some of the leanest voter ID laws on the planet?
Mexico has a more secure election process. The problem is the results are completely fraudulent. But at least everyone is aware of the corruption.
Mexico just had an election, it's amazing how easy their system works. Never thought i'd compare the USA to Mexico and feel the Mexicans have a better system.
Truth.
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Texas Democrats to flee state in effort to block GOP-backed voting restrictions
With Republican-backed voting bills moving rapidly through a special session of the state Legislature, Texas Democrats are planning to make a break for it — again.
At least 58 Democratic members of the state House of Representatives are expected to bolt from Austin on Monday in an effort to block the measures from advancing, a source familiar with the plans told NBC News. The unusual move, akin to what Democrats did in 2003, would paralyze the chamber, stopping business until the lawmakers return to town or the session ends.
To block the currently pending legislation, the Democratic lawmakers would have to remain away through the end of the special session, which can last as many as 30 days under the state’s constitution.
The majority of the members plan to fly to Washington, D.C., on two private jets chartered for the occasion and use the time there to rally support for federal voting legislation, the source said. Others will make their own way.
The lawmakers risk arrest in taking flight. Under the Texas Constitution, the Legislature requires a quorum of two-thirds of lawmakers be present to conduct state business in either chamber. Absent lawmakers can be legally compelled to return to the Capitol, and the source said Democrats expect state Republicans to ask the Department of Public Safety to track them down.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/texas-democrats-flee-state-effort-block-gop-backed-voting-restrictions-n1273667
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Texas Democrats to flee state in effort to block GOP-backed voting restrictions
With Republican-backed voting bills moving rapidly through a special session of the state Legislature, Texas Democrats are planning to make a break for it — again.
At least 58 Democratic members of the state House of Representatives are expected to bolt from Austin on Monday in an effort to block the measures from advancing, a source familiar with the plans told NBC News. The unusual move, akin to what Democrats did in 2003, would paralyze the chamber, stopping business until the lawmakers return to town or the session ends.
To block the currently pending legislation, the Democratic lawmakers would have to remain away through the end of the special session, which can last as many as 30 days under the state’s constitution.
The majority of the members plan to fly to Washington, D.C., on two private jets chartered for the occasion and use the time there to rally support for federal voting legislation, the source said. Others will make their own way.
The lawmakers risk arrest in taking flight. Under the Texas Constitution, the Legislature requires a quorum of two-thirds of lawmakers be present to conduct state business in either chamber. Absent lawmakers can be legally compelled to return to the Capitol, and the source said Democrats expect state Republicans to ask the Department of Public Safety to track them down.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/texas-democrats-flee-state-effort-block-gop-backed-voting-restrictions-n1273667
Bunch of toddlers.
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Bunch of toddlers.
No masks but they brought beers.
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No masks but they brought beers.
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On the state taxpayers' time too.
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They should all be fired for incompetency.
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Texas’ Abbott says Dems who ‘fled’ state over elections bill will be arrested upon return
Gov. Greg Abbott, the Texas Republican, criticized state Democrats who fled to Washington, D.C., on Monday in an effort to deprive the Legislature of a quorum, thus the ability to vote on the GOP's sweeping elections overhaul bill.
Abbott appeared on "The Ingraham Angle" on Monday to defend the bill and say the missing lawmakers will be arrested upon their return to the state. He said members of the Texas House of Representatives who are still in the state can call for the arrests of their colleagues who do not show up to vote. The one caveat is the arrest has to be made in the state.
"Once they step back into the state they will be arrested and brought back to the Capitol and we will be conducting business," he said.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-abbott-says-dems-who-fled-state-over-elections-bill-will-be-arrested-upon-return
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Texas’ Abbott says Dems who ‘fled’ state over elections bill will be arrested upon return
Gov. Greg Abbott, the Texas Republican, criticized state Democrats who fled to Washington, D.C., on Monday in an effort to deprive the Legislature of a quorum, thus the ability to vote on the GOP's sweeping elections overhaul bill.
Abbott appeared on "The Ingraham Angle" on Monday to defend the bill and say the missing lawmakers will be arrested upon their return to the state. He said members of the Texas House of Representatives who are still in the state can call for the arrests of their colleagues who do not show up to vote. The one caveat is the arrest has to be made in the state.
"Once they step back into the state they will be arrested and brought back to the Capitol and we will be conducting business," he said.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-abbott-says-dems-who-fled-state-over-elections-bill-will-be-arrested-upon-return
Good.
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ID cards are an ideal way to supervise and track a population
Even Mexico requires a special ID and thumb print verification to vote.
They can track all votes and calculate a clear winner by the time the polls close.
Makes sense.
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Looks like the overwhelming majority of the country disagrees with President Biden that Voter ID is "the new Jim Crow" or "Jim Crow on steroids."
Poll: 80% Of Americans Support Voter ID
BY BECKY NOBLE
JUNE 21, 2021
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/poll-80-of-americans-support-voter-id/?utm_source=home-headline-stories
It's near impossible to defend voting without a verified ID.
This is a bad move for the dems .
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to who?
People with common sense.
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ID cards are an ideal way to supervise and track a population
Kind of like our DL, Credit cards, SSN and internet history?
All of which can be tracked through every single aspect of our lives?
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ID cards are an ideal way to supervise and track a population
No kidding. Just like social security numbers.
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Clyburn is a clown. 4 Pinocchios from Washington Post's fact checker.
Rep. Clyburn’s false claim that ‘no Democrat’ has opposed voter ID laws
The Pinocchio Test
Clyburn is trying to have his cake and eat it, too. He routinely decries “voter ID” laws, but at the same time he insisted on Fox News that he has never opposed such laws — and that every Democrat has supported them. In reality, he appears to be against many types of voter ID laws — ones that require photos, or a fee for a photo or which favor one voting group over another.
In other words, he’s playing word games. He supposedly is for voter identification but against most of the voter ID laws being adopted by states. Perhaps his contradictory response may be related to the broad support photo ID requirements have in public polling. He appears to want people to think he agrees with the majority even when he is fighting against such laws.
The fact that his spokeswoman will not explain what he meant suggests that his staff knows he ended up with an untenable talking point. You cannot claim one day that voter ID is a new kind of poll tax and then, on another day, say every Democrat is for voter ID.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/15/clyburns-false-claim-that-no-democrat-has-opposed-voter-id-laws/
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Why is election day only 1 day? why isnt it a week long? or even a month
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Why is election day only 1 day? why isnt it a week long? or even a month
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/news/why-is-election-day-a-tuesday-in-november
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/news/why-is-election-day-a-tuesday-in-november
That's a good link Coach and I actually saw the program about it on the History channel.
The problem today is we have a lot more voters on the rolls then the old voting procedure could handle.
The 1st USA election had 43,792 votes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1788%E2%80%9389_United_States_presidential_election.
The number voting had a steady increase as the population and US states grew for the next 231 yrs.
The 2020 election had around 155,000,000 votes cast.
Using outdated in person on election day voting is impractical with over 150 million casting ballots.
The good thing is , using a verified ID along with the proper technology we can have good elections with the growing US electorate.
Some conservative may cry we need to return to election day in person voting to avoid voter fraud, but that's just plain wrong.
Liberals are also wrong when they cry foul about using a verified ID to vote.
In Ga, we had to provide our Ga state drivers license number to obtain an absentee ballot mailed to our correct address.
Again, some Trumpers may cry voter fraud in 2020 with Ga, but they ran a tight ship with no systemic fraud in 3 recounts.
Most of their recent voter laws are needed to return from a 2020 election that needed to deal with a covid pandemic and increased absentee voting and drop boxes, etc.
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That's a good link Coach and I actually saw the program about it on the History channel.
The problem today is we have a lot more voters on the rolls then the old voting procedure could handle.
The 1st USA election had 43,792 votes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1788%E2%80%9389_United_States_presidential_election.
The number voting had a steady increase as the population and US states grew for the next 231 yrs.
The 2020 election had around 155,000,000 votes cast.
Using outdated in person on election day voting is impractical with over 150 million casting ballots.
The good thing is , using a verified ID along with the proper technology we can have good elections with the growing US electorate.
Some conservative may cry we need to return to election day in person voting to avoid voter fraud, but that's just plain wrong.
Liberals are also wrong when they cry foul about using a verified ID to vote.
In Ga, we had to provide our Ga state drivers license number to obtain an absentee ballot mailed to our correct address.
Again, some Trumpers may cry voter fraud in 2020 with Ga, but they ran a tight ship with no systemic fraud in 3 recounts.
Most of their recent voter laws are needed to return from a 2020 election that needed to deal with a covid pandemic and increased absentee voting and drop boxes, etc.
He asked a simple question and I gave him a simple answer. So here’s another simple answer. Dems can’t win without cheating the system. No, it’s not racist to show a legal ID while voting. Saying for example, saying black people cant vote because they can’t get an id, they don’t know how to obtain one and can’t find where their local DMV is to get the ID is “racist” in itself and pretty much sayin they’re too stupid to this is again, racist. It’s not “racist” to tell someone if they want to vote FOR THEM to go to the voting booth...you don’t bring the voting booth to them.
It’s as simple as wanting to cheat the system
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He asked a simple question and I gave him a simple answer. So here’s another simple answer. Dems can’t win without cheating the system. No, it’s not racist to show a legal ID while voting. Saying for example, saying black people cant vote because they can’t get an id, they don’t know how to obtain one and can’t find where their local DMV is to get the ID is “racist” in itself and pretty much sayin they’re too stupid to this is again, racist. It’s not “racist” to tell someone if they want to vote FOR THEM to go to the voting booth...you don’t bring the voting booth to them.
It’s as simple as wanting to cheat the system
I agree with you on voter ID requirements. in my OPINION, dems look foolish trying to defend that nonsense.
However, with modern technology and verified ID's we don't need to have everyone stand in line and vote in person .
It's already being done in the state of Oregon with no systemic voter fraud problems.
https://sos.oregon.gov/elections/Documents/statistics/vote-by-mail-timeline.pdf
FYI, thanks for the good post: giving your view on the topic, while avoiding petty insults and rants.
Not that my opinion matters, but I appreciate it.