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Going to see how many Democrats I can find who claim Trump, Bush, and/or Kemp (and others) were not legitimately elected.
Former President Jimmy Carter:
Jimmy Carter says a full investigation would show Trump lost in 2016
Jimmy Carter: 'Trump didn’t actually win the election in 2016'
By SARAH CAMMARATA
06/28/2019
Former President Jimmy Carter questioned the legitimacy of Donald Trump’s presidency on Thursday, saying he would likely not be in the White House if the Russians did not interfere in the 2016 presidential election.
“I think a full investigation would show that Trump didn’t actually win the election in 2016. He lost the election, and he was put into office because the Russians interfered on his behalf,” the former president, who served between 1977 and 1981, said at a panel hosted by the Carter Center in Leesburg, Va.
Pressed by moderator and historian Jon Meacham on whether he believes Trump is an “illegitimate president,” Carter stared, and then said smiling, “Basically, what I said, I can’t retract.” Carter’s remark drew laughs from the audience and Meacham.
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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/28/jimmy-carter-russia-investigation-trump-lost-1387634
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The late Representative John Lewis.
Rep. John Lewis: 'I Don't See Trump as a Legitimate President'
Lewis, a Democrat representing Georgia and a civil rights leader, said 'I think the Russians participated in helping this man get elected.'
Jan. 13, 2017
By Chuck Todd, Sally Bronston and Matt Rivera
In an exclusive interview with NBC News' "Meet the Press," Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., said he does not believe Donald Trump is a "legitimate president," citing Russian interference in last year’s election.
Asked whether he would try to forge a relationship with the president-elect, Lewis said that he believes in forgiveness, but added, "it's going to be very difficult. I don't see this president-elect as a legitimate president."
When pressed to explain why, he cited allegations of Russian hacks during the campaign that led to the release of internal documents from the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s campaign co-chairman, John Podesta.
“I think the Russians participated in helping this man get elected. And they helped destroy the candidacy of Hillary Clinton,” Lewis told NBC News.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/meet-the-press-70-years/john-lewis-trump-won-t-be-legitimate-president-n706676
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Former Attorney General Eric Holder.
Holder rallied Democrats to "send a message to the present occupant of the White House, Mr. Trump...I never call him the president."
Eric Holder Says He'll Never Call Donald Trump 'President,' Condemns 'Present Occupant' of White House
BY BENJAMIN FEARNOW ON 9/17/18
https://www.newsweek.com/eric-holder-never-call-donald-trump-president-condemns-present-occupant-white-1123990
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White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre
Karine Jean-Pierre
@K_JeanPierre
Stolen emails, stolen drone, stolen election .....welcome to the world of #unpresidented Trump
https://twitter.com/K_JeanPierre/status/810294911815847936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E810294911815847936%7Ctwgr%5E6de682f1202c5a05811589073fc43cbb7985c1ff%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationalreview.com%2Fnews%2Fwhite-house-press-secretary-called-out-for-saying-trump-stole-2016-election%2F
Karine Jean-Pierre
@K_JeanPierre
Jimmy Cater for the win.
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Susan Page
@SusanPage
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Jun 28, 2019
NEW: Former president Jimmy Carter says a full investigation “would show that Trump didn’t actually win the election in 2016….He was put into office because the Russians interfered.” Does that mean he’s an illegitimate president? “Based on what I said, which I can’t retract.”
https://twitter.com/K_JeanPierre/status/1144964912382451713?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1144964912382451713%7Ctwgr%5E68c4c22ef936fecfac6a70af8b2c2d61e50904d4%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonexaminer.com%2Fkarine-jean-pierres-questionable-twitter-history
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Hillary Clinton.
From the Washington Post, in 2019:
Hillary Clinton dismissed President Trump as an “illegitimate president” and suggested that “he knows” that he stole the 2016 presidential election in a CBS News interview to be aired Sunday.
And:
“No, it doesn’t kill me because he knows he’s an illegitimate president,” she said. “I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used, from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories — he knows that — there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did.”
And:
Clinton compared her election loss to “applying for a job and getting 66 million letters of recommendation and losing to a corrupt human tornado. And so I know that he knows that this wasn’t on the level. I don’t know that we’ll ever know what happened.”
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https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/dont-forget-hillary-clinton/
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Aren't election deniers considered extremists and a threat to our democracy ???
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Aren't election deniers considered extremists and a threat to our democracy ???
Only if they are Republicans.
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Former Senator Barbara Boxer, dozens of Democrat House Members, Representative Maxine Waters, Al Gore, Terry McAuliffe, and Jonathan Chait of New York magazine:
The previous time the Republicans won, George W. Bush in 2004, Sen. Barbara Boxer and dozens of House members objected to Ohio’s electoral votes going for Bush, even though he won the state by more than 100,000 votes.
Rep. Maxine Waters, a California Democrat, promoted a conspiracy theory whereby enough votes were switched from Kerry to Bush by voting machines and enough voters were wrongly purged from voter rolls that it “could have been” determinative of the result in Ohio and, thus, the whole presidential election.
And the time before that? Well, famously, Al Gore sued in Florida and in the Supreme Court to overturn George W. Bush’s insanely narrow victory in that state. Democratic congressmen, even after the lawsuits ended, called the result a “coup d’etat.” They also challenged the electoral votes.
Why do I bring up the distant past? Because Democrats continue to peddle the line, which would be called “dangerous” if a Republican made the same argument, that Bush “stole” the 2000 election.
Watch this video of Terry McAuliffe in 2004 , claiming Republicans stole the 2000 election. McAuliffe, who has never recanted that false claim, is now the Democratic nominee for the governor of Virginia and has the backing of the entire Democratic establishment.
That’s because the Democratic and liberal establishment say the same thing as McAuliffe:
20 years later, McAuliffe will not retract his claim that the 2000 election was stolen. Whereas Youngkin said onstage this week that Biden won. https://t.co/NLPyuium6h
— Dan McLaughlin (@baseballcrank) October 1, 2021
And here’s Jonathan Chait at New York magazine last month, saying Bush never won the election fairly.
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Being a Democrat Means Never Having to Accept an Election Loss
By Timothy P. Carney
Washington Examiner
October 05, 2021
https://www.aei.org/op-eds/being-a-democrat-means-never-having-to-accept-an-election-loss/
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Jesse Jackson.
"The election was essentially taken and stolen. You must get your votes in the public booth, not the private chambers of judges who are your political allies."
http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/12/13/african.americans/
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And there were cities, businesses and government buildings along with dead cops because of it
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Sixty-seven Democrats who boycotted President Trump's inauguration.
67 Democratic Congress Members Planning to Skip Inauguration
The number of lawmakers who will not attend the ceremony Friday keeps growing.
ByJENNIFER HANSLER
January 20, 2017
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/50-democratic-congress-members-planning-skip-inauguration/story?id=44783997
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Representative Jerry Nadler.
Claims President Trump was illegitimate and got elected in part by Russia putting its finger on the scale.
https://grabien.com/getmedia.php?id=1553403&key=fc9909e981bcac0da1923769aca59697&userid=17087
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Only if they are Republicans.
Some Republicans deny the Biden won the 2020 election. And some Democrats deny the Trump won the 2016 election. So, my question is are all of them extremist?
In 2016 Clinton won the majority popular vote but lost election due to the electoral vote. Hillary gracefully conceded.
2020 Biden got the higher popular vote count and the most electoral vote. Trump refused to concede until he had no other choice, and then he did it with reservations. There was no peaceful transition or transfer of power, thanks to Trump being a sore loser who refused to do it.
He took all the 'marbles' (which didn't belong to him) and went home to Mar-a-lago.
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Some Republicans deny the Biden won the 2020 election. And some Democrats deny the Trump won the 2016 election. So, my question is are all of them extremist?
In 2016 Clinton won the majority popular vote but lost election due to the electoral vote. Hillary gracefully conceded.
2020 Biden got the higher popular vote count and the most electoral vote. Trump refused to concede until he had no other choice, and then he did it with reservations. There was no peaceful transition or transfer of power, thanks to Trump being a sore loser who refused to do it.
He took all the 'marbles' (which didn't belong to him) and went home to Mar-a-lago.
Dude. :-[
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Representative Jamie Raskin and numerous other Democrats attempted to stop certification of the results in January 2017.
Trump's Legal Team Points To 2017 Attempt To Block Election Certification As Defense
February 12, 2021
https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impeachment-trial-live-updates/2021/02/12/967407329/trumps-legal-team-points-to-2017-attempt-to-block-election-certification-as-defe
https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1360282519954804738
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Representative Jan Schakowsky.
“I have decided to join the growing group of my colleagues who will not attend the Inauguration in protest of a President who used bigotry, fear, and lies to win an election that was tainted by foreign interference and voter suppression — and who intends to betray the interests of the ordinary working people who put him in office.
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https://schakowsky.house.gov/media/press-releases/schakowsky-statement-donald-trumps-inauguration
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Stacey Abrams claims she was cheated in Georgia and never conceded the race, despite losing by over 50,000 votes.
12 Times Stacey Abrams Said She Got Cheated in Georgia
Stacey Abrams / Getty ImagesDavid Rutz • April 4, 2019
https://freebeacon.com/politics/12-times-stacey-abrams-said-she-got-cheated-in-georgia/
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WATCH: Mark Levin runs incredible examples of Democrats being Election Deniers over and over and over and over
OCT. 22, 2022
https://therightscoop.com/watch-mark-levin-runs-incredible-examples-of-democrats-being-election-deniers-over-and-over-and-over/
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Some Republicans deny the Biden won the 2020 election. And some Democrats deny the Trump won the 2016 election. So, my question is are all of them extremist?
In 2016 Clinton won the majority popular vote but lost election due to the electoral vote. Hillary gracefully conceded.
2020 Biden got the higher popular vote count and the most electoral vote. Trump refused to concede until he had no other choice, and then he did it with reservations. There was no peaceful transition or transfer of power, thanks to Trump being a sore loser who refused to do it.
He took all the 'marbles' (which didn't belong to him) and went home to Mar-a-lago.
Hillary gracefully conceded? Are you abusing alcohol again? I thought you quit.
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The Left loves to project.
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Lurker seems to be conveniently absent from this thread
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Kari Lake did this live right in front of reporters - Abrams, Clinton, LA Times, etc
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Kari Lake did this live right in front of reporters - Abrams, Clinton, LA Times, etc
The MSM is going to hate her as bad as Trump.
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Hillary gracefully conceded? Are you abusing alcohol again? I thought you quit.
Trump has god on his side. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Trump has god on his side. ;D ;D ;D ;D
You forgot to spell (G)od with a capital “G”
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https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2022-09/Deniers%20list.pdf
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Hillary Clinton laments GOP ‘election deniers’ in CNN interview, despite past stolen election claims
Clinton has repeatedly claimed the 2016 election was stolen from her
By Nikolas Lanum | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/media/hillary-clinton-laments-gop-election-deniers-cnn-interview-despite-past-stolen-election-claims
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Hillary Clinton laments GOP ‘election deniers’ in CNN interview, despite past stolen election claims
Clinton has repeatedly claimed the 2016 election was stolen from her
By Nikolas Lanum | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/media/hillary-clinton-laments-gop-election-deniers-cnn-interview-despite-past-stolen-election-claims
Whether Hilary was sincere or not she did concede. Hillary Clinton conceded the White House race to President-elect Donald Trump on Wednesday morning, saying she hoped "he will be a successful president for all Americans." If she later lamented that the election was stolen from her, it suggests she was not being sincere when she said that or she had a change of heart/mind.
Did Trump concede to Biden and wish him success? If he did, I missed it. Perhaps you could point me to his concession.
Trump spent millions of other folks' dollars on lawsuits claiming the election was a fraud since late 2019. My guess is that he will continue to do so as long as the donations to his cause keep coming in.
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Whether Hilary was sincere or not she did concede. Hillary Clinton conceded the White House race to President-elect Donald Trump on Wednesday morning, saying she hoped "he will be a successful president for all Americans." If she later lamented that the election was stolen from her, it suggests she was not being sincere when she said that or she had a change of heart/mind.
Did Trump concede to Biden and wish him success? If he did, I missed it. Perhaps you could point me to his concession.
Trump spent millions of other folks' dollars on lawsuits claiming the election was a fraud since late 2019. My guess is that he will continue to do so as long as the donations to his cause keep coming in.
Go back and read this thread. She did not concede. She has been calling Trump an illegitimate president whom the Russians help elect for the past six years.
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The new minority lead is an election denier.
Democrat poised to succeed Pelosi repeatedly denied legitimacy of Trump's 2016 election
Hakeem Jeffries' claims range from stolen election to voter suppression. Will news media treat him same as Republicans?
By John Solomon
November 19, 2022
Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, the New York Democrat poised to succeed House Speaker Nancy Pelosi as his party's leader in the House, has repeatedly denied the legitimacy of Donald Trump's 2016 election.
But his claims of a stolen election and voter suppression have hardly gotten the same treatment as Trump and other Republicans who have raised ballot integrity issues and been endlessly branded as "election deniers."
Jeffries, currently the House Democratic Conference chairman, has tweeted that Trump cheated in the 2016 election and stole two Supreme Court seats.
"LIE (more than any administration in the history of the Republic.) CHEAT (2016 election/Russian Interference). STEAL (one or two Supreme Court seats). When will Republicans put country ahead of party?" he tweeted.
Jeffries' denials of Trump's election date to at least February 2018, when he launched a Twitter broadside against the 45th president.
"The more we learn about the 2016 election, the more ILLEGITIMATE it becomes," Jeffries tweeted from his congressional account four years ago, claiming Russian interference benefited Trump. "America deserves to know whether we have a FAKE president in the Oval Office."
In 2019, even though Special Counsel Robert Mueller had concluded Trump had not colluded with Russia, Jeffries claimed at a congressional hearing that Trump had been put into the the White House "artificially."
"History will never accept you as a legitimate president," Jeffries tweeted from his personal account in 2020, referring to Trump
In March 2021, Jeffries claimed without evidence that Republicans had suppressed votes in prior elections.
"What kind of political party worships at the altar of voter suppression?" he wrote. "A morally bankrupt one."
Though his language is similar to Republicans who are branded "election deniers," Jeffries has not gotten the same negative attention that Trump or Arizona gubernatorial nominee Kari Lake have received.
Joe Concha, the longtime media critic at The Hill newspaper, on Friday noted the media's general silence and questioned whether Jeffries' ascension toward House minority leader might change things.
"Will the media label him an election denier in an effort to be consistent with the same applied to some GOP candidates in the 2022 midterms?" he asked on Twitter.
Former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer on Saturday demanded that CNN use an interview this weekend with Jeffries to ask him about his election denialism.
"Heads up @CNNSotu the likely new leader of House Dems- election denier @RepJeffries- is on your show tomorrow. Maybe ask about this," Spicer tweeted, linking to a Republican National Committee compilation of all of Jeffries past comments on Trump's election.
https://justthenews.com/government/congress/democrat-poised-succeed-pelosi-repeatedly-has-denied-legitimacy-trumps-2016
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Go back and read this thread. She did not concede. She has been calling Trump an illegitimate president whom the Russians help elect for the past six years.
At 7 minutes in this Youtube clip featuring Hilary Clinton sounds and looks like a concession speech to me. No matter whether she was being sincere or not she followed protocol.
Can you produce a similar clip from Trump in 2020 when he lost the election to Joe Biden? Oh that's right, the election was "stolen" from him so he refused to concede or agree to a peaceful transfer of power and he continues to do so to this day.
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Go back and read this thread. She did not concede. She has been calling Trump an illegitimate president whom the Russians help elect for the past six years.
Moreover, 72% of Democrats believe that the 2016 election was stolen from Clinton. What percent of Republicans believe that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump?
Our legacy media describe only Republicans as election deniers.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/april_2022/democrats_still_believe_russia_changed_2016_election
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/democrats-still-believe-clinton-won-in-2016
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At 7 minutes in this Youtube clip featuring Hilary Clinton sounds and looks like a concession speech to me. No matter whether she was being sincere or not she followed protocol.
Can you produce a similar clip from Trump in 2020 when he lost the election to Joe Biden? Oh that's right, the election was "stolen" from him so he refused to concede or agree to a peaceful transfer of power and he continues to do so to this day.
Take your head out of the sand.
Hillary Clinton calls Trump an 'illegitimate president'
BPR Published September 30, 2019
https://rumble.com/v894wd-hillary-clinton-calls-trump-an-illegitimate-president.html
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Moreover, 72% of Democrats believe that the 2016 election was stolen from Clinton. What percent of Republicans believe that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump?
Our legacy media describe only Republicans as election deniers.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/april_2022/democrats_still_believe_russia_changed_2016_election
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/democrats-still-believe-clinton-won-in-2016
Right? Hypocrites.
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https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2022-09/Deniers%20list.pdf
I believe all but one on your list , made an official concession before the winner was sworn in.
2 years later and Trump is still saying he won LOL. He sounds like some butt hurt guy , after Ms Hotty turned him down .
But look Coach, I just want to know why YOU believe the 2020 election was stolen ?
Seriously bro, don't send me a link, just tell me YOUR thoughts on this.
Thanks
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Take your head out of the sand.
Hillary Clinton calls Trump an 'illegitimate president'
BPR Published September 30, 2019
https://rumble.com/v894wd-hillary-clinton-calls-trump-an-illegitimate-president.html
I guess this means you couldn't find a video of Trump's concession speech, so you posted this instead. Ah well, better luck next time. BTW, I didn't say she was being honest or sincere... no doubt she had her fingers crossed behind her back. ;)
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I guess this means you couldn't find a video of Trump's concession speech, so you posted this instead. Ah well, better luck next time. BTW, I didn't say she was being honest or sincere... no doubt she had her fingers crossed behind her back. ;)
That means I was correcting, again, your misstatement that Hillary conceded. It doesn't matter what she said immediately after the election. What matters is what she has been saying the past six years.
You tried to change the subject. Mission fail. :)
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The new minority lead is an election denier.
That only matters if he's republican.
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That means I was correcting, again, your misstatement that Hillary conceded. It doesn't matter what she said immediately after the election. What matters is what she has been saying the past six years.
You tried to change the subject. Mission fail. :)
Am I wrong or isn't this discussion about concession speeches and what constitutes one?
It seems like we are stuck on a merry-go-round. ;D
Call what I posted a mission fail if you like. What did Trump say immediately after the election in 2019 or in the months thereafter when Biden's win was certified. How about after Biden's inauguration? What is Trump saying today? I'll give you this, whether he was or is being sincere or not he is doggedly consistent. He is also an egomaniac so he likely convinced himself that he was and still is the rightful President and will continue to do this long after almost everyone has abandoned him up until the day he dies. Which is exactly what crazy people do.
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Rachel Maddow dragged for scolding stolen election claims with Hillary Clinton: 'Can y'all hear yourselves?'
Clinton has repeatedly suggested the 2016 election was stolen from her
By Hanna Panreck | Fox News
Published August 15, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/media/hillary-clinton-rachel-maddow-dragged-scolding-stolen-election-claims-can-yall-hear-yourselves?dicbo=v2-c2sjbz5
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Top Dem’s tweet calling 2016 election 'illegitimate' resurfaces amid opposition to Speaker Johnson
Reps. Jeffries, Schiff, and Pelosi all previously denied the legitimacy of the 2016 election
By Andrew Mark Miller Fox News
Published October 25, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/top-dems-tweet-calling-2016-election-illegitimate-resurfaces-amid-opposition-gop-speaker-nominee?dicbo=v2-32ib4eo
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Remember this?
Brandon Straka
@BrandonStraka
In December of 2016, the left spearheaded a campaign to get members of Congress to not certify Donald Trump as president.
A petition was formed, and a video circulated with Martin Sheen, Debra Messing, BD Wong, Moby, Mike Farrell, Loretta Swit, Christine Lahti, and other Hollywood celebrities acting as spokespeople- imploring faithless electors to choose anybody else for president besides Donald Trump.
Freda Payne even declared that it was the “responsibility of the electors to not certify Donald Trump- granted to them by the constitution, by Alexander Hamilton himself!”
The petition to have faithless electors not certify Donald Trump was signed by thousands on the left, and stated:
“The best chance of stopping Trump now is for electors from both parties to vote for a more moderate candidate.
Members of the Electoral College: vote your conscience for an alternative, adequately qualified candidate and deny Trump the 270 votes needed to take office. Do this to preserve the historic American values which both noble parties have fought so long to protect. Unite for America.”
As of today, Democrats have criminally and civilly charged dozens of Republicans around the country for being electors who did not cast their vote for Biden in 2020. These “fake electors” as Democrats are now calling them, are facing decades in prison.
“We cannot allow attacks on democracy to go unchallenged,” Nevada’s Democratic Attorney General Aaron Ford said when charging 6 electors in his state.
https://twitter.com/BrandonStraka/status/1774627836449431552
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^^^ Projection is the Left's greatest trait.
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^^^ Projection is the Left's greatest trait.
Truth.
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Remember this?
Brandon Straka
@BrandonStraka
In December of 2016, the left spearheaded a campaign to get members of Congress to not certify Donald Trump as president.
A petition was formed, and a video circulated with Martin Sheen, Debra Messing, BD Wong, Moby, Mike Farrell, Loretta Swit, Christine Lahti, and other Hollywood celebrities acting as spokespeople- imploring faithless electors to choose anybody else for president besides Donald Trump.
Freda Payne even declared that it was the “responsibility of the electors to not certify Donald Trump- granted to them by the constitution, by Alexander Hamilton himself!”
The petition to have faithless electors not certify Donald Trump was signed by thousands on the left, and stated:
“The best chance of stopping Trump now is for electors from both parties to vote for a more moderate candidate.
Members of the Electoral College: vote your conscience for an alternative, adequately qualified candidate and deny Trump the 270 votes needed to take office. Do this to preserve the historic American values which both noble parties have fought so long to protect. Unite for America.”
As of today, Democrats have criminally and civilly charged dozens of Republicans around the country for being electors who did not cast their vote for Biden in 2020. These “fake electors” as Democrats are now calling them, are facing decades in prison.
“We cannot allow attacks on democracy to go unchallenged,” Nevada’s Democratic Attorney General Aaron Ford said when charging 6 electors in his state.
https://twitter.com/BrandonStraka/status/1774627836449431552
Apparently that wasn't "extremely dangerous to our democracy" because "it's (D)ifferent when we do it".
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DemonCraps' double standards of peace.