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Dos Equis:
As I've indicated in other threads, I think the impeachment talk is premature.  I think if Obama either gave or had knowledge of the stand down order in Benghazi, or the IRS abuse, then the talk carries much more weight.  

But keep in mind that if Obama is impeached, we get President Biden.  Be careful what you wish for.    

Here is a summary of the process:

Similar to the British system, Article One of the United States Constitution gives the House of Representatives the sole power of impeachment and the Senate the sole power to try impeachments. Unlike the British system, impeachment is only the first of two stages, and conviction requires a two-thirds vote. Impeachment does not necessarily result in removal from office; it is only a legal statement of charges, parallel to an indictment in criminal law. An official who is impeached faces a second legislative vote (whether by the same body or another), which determines conviction, or failure to convict, on the charges embodied by the impeachment. Most constitutions require a supermajority to convict. Although the subject of the charge is criminal action, it does not constitute a criminal trial; the only question under consideration is the removal of the individual from office, and the possibility of a subsequent vote preventing the removed official from ever again holding political office in the jurisdiction where he was removed. Impeachment with respect to political office should not be confused with witness impeachment.

[edit] Impeachable offensesIn the United States, impeachment can occur both at the federal and state level. The Constitution defines impeachment at the federal level and limits impeachment to "The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States" who may be impeached and removed only for "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors".[4] Several commentators have suggested that Congress alone may decide for itself what constitutes a "high crime or misdemeanor" especially since Nixon v. United States stated that the Supreme Court did not have the authority to determine whether the Senate properly "tried" a defendant.[citation needed] In 1970, then-House Minority Leader Gerald R. Ford defined the criterion as he saw it: "An impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history."[5] Four years later, Gerald Ford would become president when President Richard Nixon resigned under the threat of impeachment.

Article III of the Constitution states that judges remain in office "during good behavior", implying that Congress may remove a judge for bad behavior via impeachment and conviction. The House has impeached 14 federal judges and the Senate has convicted six of them.[citation needed]

[edit] Officials subject to impeachmentThe central question regarding the Constitutional dispute about the impeachment of members of the legislature is whether members of Congress are officers of the United States. The Constitution grants the House the power to impeach "The President, the Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States." [4] It has been suggested that members of Congress are not officers of the United States.[6] Others, however, believe that members are civil officers and are subject to impeachment.[citation needed]

The House of Representatives did impeach a senator once:[7] Senator William Blount, in 1798. The Senate expelled Senator Blount and, after initially hearing his impeachment, dismissed the charges for lack of jurisdiction.[8] Left unsettled was the question whether members of Congress were civil officers of the United States. The House has not impeached a Member of Congress since Blount. As each House has the authority to expel its own members without involving the other chamber, expulsion has been the method used for removing Members of Congress.

Jefferson's Manual, which is integral to the Rules of the House of Representatives,[9] states that impeachment is set in motion by charges made on the floor, charges preferred by a memorial, a member's resolution referred to a committee, a message from the president, charges transmitted from the legislature of a state or territory or from a grand jury, or from facts developed and reported by an investigating committee of the House. It further states that a proposition to impeach is a question of high privilege in the House and at once supersedes business otherwise in order under the rules governing the order of business.

[edit] ProcessThe impeachment process is a two-step procedure. The House of Representatives must first pass, by a simple majority of those present and voting, articles of impeachment, which constitute the formal allegation or allegations. Upon their passage, the defendant has been "impeached". Next, the Senate tries the accused. In the case of the impeachment of a president, the Chief Justice of the United States presides over the proceedings. For the impeachment of any other official, the Constitution is silent on who shall preside, suggesting that this role falls to the Senate's usual presiding officer. This may include the impeachment of the vice president, although legal theories suggest that allowing a defendant to be the judge in his own case would be a blatant conflict of interest. If the Vice President did not preside over an impeachment (of anyone besides the President), the duties would fall to the President pro tempore of the Senate.

To convict the accused, a two-thirds majority of the senators present is required. Conviction automatically removes the defendant from office. Following conviction, the Senate may vote to further punish the individual by barring him from holding future federal office, elected or appointed. Conviction by the Senate does not bar criminal prosecution. Even after an accused has left office, it is possible to impeach to disqualify the person from future office or from certain emoluments of his prior office (such as a pension). If there is no charge for which a two-thirds majority of the senators present vote "guilty", the defendant is acquitted and no punishment is imposed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment#United_States

Option D:
has there been any testimony that suggested that if any suggested action would have netted a different outcome in Bengazi. Or is the narrative "there was a cover up on the source of the raid"...

The Enigma:



Impeachment?

Try treason.

Dos Equis:

--- Quote from: Option D on May 13, 2013, 12:24:37 PM ---has there been any testimony that suggested that if any suggested action would have netted a different outcome in Bengazi. Or is the narrative "there was a cover up on the source of the raid"...

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You should watch the testimony. 

We don't know what the outcome would have been.  The facts are those people were defenseless, they were under attack for hours, a stand down order was given, we didnt' even try to help them, and then our government repeatedly lied about it. 

Necrosis:

--- Quote from: Beach Bum on May 13, 2013, 12:28:45 PM ---You should watch the testimony. 

We don't know what the outcome would have been.  The facts are those people were defenseless, they were under attack for hours, a stand down order was given, we didnt' even try to help them, and then our government repeatedly lied about it. 

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what Lies? what world do you live in?

nevermind you think evolution is false, that the world is 6000 years old and that ben stein made a documentary not a fantasy film.

I perceive you as being delusional as you hold many beliefs that cannot be verified. Not little beliefs like wearing yellow socks makes you feel better but on topics of life and death importance.

Fucking amazing how stupid America is, it's like a sitcom.

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