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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #75 on: February 07, 2016, 03:02:24 PM »
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« Reply #76 on: February 07, 2016, 03:06:36 PM »
Of course not because we all know socialism works ::)

I'm not defending socialism.

I've just come to the realization that you like things kept simple. Nothing wrong with that. It's just how you like to be.

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« Reply #77 on: February 07, 2016, 03:07:31 PM »
Don't buy into the moron definition of Liberalism.

Classical Liberals, like Thomas Jefferson and George Orwell and their thinking still are strong.  Idiots like the original poster will want you to believe otherwise.

Thomas Jefferson quotes:

“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.


The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." Thomas Jefferson

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." Thomas Jefferson

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."

 
Thomas Jefferson doesn't sound liberal to me.

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #78 on: February 07, 2016, 03:45:04 PM »
Thomas Jefferson quotes:

“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.


The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." Thomas Jefferson

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." Thomas Jefferson

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."

 
Thomas Jefferson doesn't sound liberal to me.


A "classic liberal".....not just a garden variety liberal

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« Reply #79 on: February 07, 2016, 03:47:23 PM »
A "classic liberal".....not just a garden variety liberal

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List of liberal theorists
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Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson (United States, 1743–1826) was the third President of the United States and author of the Declaration of Independence. He also wrote Notes on the State of Virginia and the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom. He was a champion of inalienable individual rights and the separation of church and state. His ideas were repeated in many other liberal revolutions around the world, including the (early) French Revolution.

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« Reply #80 on: February 07, 2016, 03:49:19 PM »
http://www.belmont.edu/lockesmith/liberalism_essay/the_rise1.html
 The Rise - Part 1

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Introduction | The Rise - Part 1 | The Rise - Part 2 | The Decline | The Reemergence | Conclusion/Sources Cited

The Rise, Decline, and Reemergence of Classical Liberalism
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) consulted with Paine while drafting the American Declaration of Independence (1776). In this statement, Jefferson unites the myth of the ancient constitution and the Lockean natural rights tradition to prove that England had breached its contract with the colonists. The people therefore had the right to revolt and compact together to form a new government; in referring his case to a global audience, he emphasizes the universality of his philosophy. Beyond the Declaration, Jefferson's perspective appeared in his letters, political papers, and policies as Secretary of State and President. He and his lifelong friend and colleague James Madison spearheaded the Democratic-Republican party to oppose the Federalists' desire to centralize and increase governmental power, leading both of them to the nation's highest office.

In particular, efferson focused on creating an independent citizenry capable of maintaining the democratic republic, and he found his key in the yeoman farmer. He believed the self-sufficient landowner possessed the ability to cultivate himself and therefore treasure his freedom. Jefferson's emphasis on liberty as self-realization anticipated the German classical liberals to be mentioned later.

James Madison also served as Secretary of State and President but his contributions appeared well before he assumed these positions. The originator of the Virginia Plan at the Constitutional Convention and final father of the United States Constitution, Madison clearly revealed a Lockean natural law foundation coupled with a Montesquieu-style separation of powers. The federalism he created (and explained in The Federalist Papers, which he co-authored with Alexander Hamilton and John Jay in 1787 and 1788) pitted the self-interests of factions against each other to keep any group from acquiring the power to offend others' rights. One right which he tried to define and explore throughout his life was the right of property. His 1792 "On Property" notes the radical extent to which he defined an individual's claim to his own:

    He has an equal property in the free use of his faculties and free choice of the objects on which to employ them. In a word, man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to have a property in his rights (267).

Although his influence lived on in the very fabric of the United States governmental structure, Madison stepped out of the spotlight at the close of his second term as President in 1816 and the Democratic-Republican movement may be said to have ended.

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« Reply #81 on: February 07, 2016, 03:52:42 PM »
http://debate-central.ncpa.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Classical-Liberalism-John-Goodman.pdf

What Is Classical Liberalism?

John C. Goodman
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Prior to the 20th century, classical liberalism was the dominant political philosophy in the United
States. It was the political philosophy of Thomas Jefferson and the signers of the Declaration of
Independence and it permeates the Declaration of Independe
nce, the Constitution, the Federalist
Papers and many other documents produced by the people who created the American system of
government.
Many of the emancipationists who opposed slavery were essentially classical
liberals, as were the suffragettes, who
fought for equal rights for women.

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« Reply #82 on: February 07, 2016, 03:54:08 PM »
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« Reply #83 on: February 07, 2016, 03:54:34 PM »
http://alexpeak.com/twr/clsor/

Thomas Jefferson
Classical-Liberal Statesman of the Old Republic

H. Arthur Scott Trask

This essay may be cited as H. Arthur Scott Trask, “Thomas Jefferson: Classical-Liberal Statesman of the Old Republic,” chapter three in Reassessing the Presidency: The Rise of the Executive State and the Decline of Freedom, ed. John V. Denson (Auburn, A. L.: The Ludwig von Mises Institute, 2001), pp. 45–103.

This essay has subsequently been released by the Ludwig von Mises Instutute as three separate articles.  Some paragraphs have been divided up, and some punctuation has been altered; but the content has, it appears, been left as it was in the original.


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« Reply #84 on: February 07, 2016, 03:56:30 PM »
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Origins of Classical Liberalism


Individualism

Portrait of Thomas Jefferson Classical liberalism holds that there are certain natural rights of which no government, elected or otherwise, may deprive its citizens. This is an important distinction. Governments do not give rights to their citizens. Rights belong to citizens because they are inherent in the natural order or granted by God Almighty (take your pick). John Locke, a political theorist of the 18th century identified three such basic rights, "life, liberty, and property." Thomas Jefferson memorably plagiarized Locke's idea in the Declaration of Independence when he wrote that all men share certain inalienable rights, among them "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."


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« Reply #85 on: February 07, 2016, 03:59:25 PM »
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Classical Liberalism and the Radical Roots of the American Revolution

January 29, 2010 by Classical Liberal Leave a Comment

What were our founding fathers? Were they Conservatives? Liberals? Monarchists? Anarchists? Many people have not even heard this term before, but most were what we call “Classical Liberals.”

Now we arrive at Thomas Jefferson, the greatest political philosopher among our founding fathers. He articulated the philosophy of Classical Liberalism as follows:

Thomas Jefferson, The Declaration of Independence, 1776

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that

    all men are created equal, that

    they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That

    to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That

    whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Classical Liberalism is a radical ideology that can topple even the most powerful nation. BUT, it can also rebuild a nation. That is the main difference between Classical Liberalism and Anarchism.

So now let me consolidate and summarize the basic principles of Classical Liberalism.

Law:

Law predates the institution of civil government. There are no such things as law-makers, only law protectors. This natural law comes from God Himself and is perfect, and human laws are made only to the degradation of this law.

Rights:

The natural rights of human beings to life, liberty, and the fruit of their labor (property) are given them by God. These rights are not granted by governments and can not lawfully be taken away by the same.

Force:

There are two kinds of force:

    Aggressive (or coersive) force, which violates another person's rights and is therefore an unlawful use of force.

    Defensive (or reactionary) force, which is in response to aggressive force. This is a lawful use of force.

Power:

All power emanates from the individual, thus, power flows upward. Governments therefore receive their power from the individuals that make up their populace, and should be held in check by the same. If a government breaks the social contract, it is the right of the people to remove it and institute proper government in its place.

Goals:

The end of classical liberalism is true liberty. Thus, a classical liberal's job is never done. The classical liberal is always looking forward to that goal. This is in contrast to those that can be called “conservative” which defend the status quo and fight for what was, rather than looking forward to what should be. The true goals of classical liberalism have not yet been accomplished at any point in our country's history. Thomas Jefferson knew and understood this and fought for these goals until he died.

The Social Contract:

As Samuel Adams described in “The Rights of the Colonists,” an individual's relationship to proper government is a contractual business relationship. The people of a land pool their individual power and resources to create an organization, which is a government. This organization has contractual obligations to the people that created it. In this tradition, our founders wrote our Constitution, which begins with the words, “We the people of the United States…” It is the literal “contract with America” and lays out the contractual obligations of our nation's federal government. We give the government certain resources, and then they must fulfill certain obligations to us, the people. Those obligations can be found summarized within the preamble to the Constitution, and are “to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.”

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« Reply #86 on: February 07, 2016, 04:02:22 PM »
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/general/news/2012/04/26/11379/think-again-how-classical-liberalism-morphed-into-new-deal-liberalism/

How did classical liberalism morph into New Deal liberalism?

Classical liberalism is synonymous with a faith in reason, which had arisen out of the Enlightenment as a reaction to claims of divine rule by the clergy and royalty of the late Middle Ages. It found expression in the thoughts of many writers across Europe and the British Isles, including John Stuart Mill, John Locke, Baron de Montesquieu, Voltaire, David Hume, and Immanuel Kant, as well as in the political arguments of America’s founders, particularly Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, and James Madison.[1] Liberal freedoms were primarily freedoms of the mind: freedom of thought, of expression, of religion, and of self-invention without regard to the customs of caste, creed, or crown. Above all, liberalism implied both an ability and a responsibility of people to think for themselves, to create their own destinies, and to follow their own consciences. Examining the evolution of liberal belief since its founding, the liberal theologian Reinhold Niebuhr observed in an article published on July 4, 1955, in The New Republic, that liberalism in the broadest sense was characterized by a commitment “to free the individual from the traditional restraints of a society, to endow the ‘governed’ with the power of the franchise, to establish the principle of the ‘consent of the governed’ as the basis of political society; to challenge all hereditary privileges and traditional restraints upon human initiative.”[2]

Over the course of the nineteenth century, however, the traditional or “classical” understanding of liberalism came to represent a kind of conservatism, as powerful institutions (including, primarily, corporations and trusts) found ways to constrict the freedom of individuals through the onerous working conditions of early industrial factories while at the same time paying tribute to the liberal virtues of self-reliance and freedom to choose one’s own path to prosperity. To address these developments the great liberal philosopher John Dewey called upon liberals to rethink some of their most fundamental assumptions. Dewey defended the same Enlightenment-based liberalism of old but redefined it so as to allow its believers to adapt to contemporary conditions. Liberalism, he wrote:

came into use to denote a new spirit that grew and spread with the rise of democracy. It implied a new interest in the common man and a new sense that the common man, the representative of the great masses of human beings, had possibilities that had been kept under, that had not been allowed to develop, because of institutional and political conditions. . . . It was marked by a generous attitude, by sympathy for the underdog, for those who were not given a chance. . . . [And] it aimed at enlarging the scope of free action on the part of those who for ages had had no part in public affairs and no lot in the benefits secured by this participation.[3]

Although Dewey, who was a much better philosopher than he was a political strategist, spent most of Roosevelt’s career denouncing the president as a sellout and supporting Socialist and other marginal candidates, Roosevelt’s political career did embody the new liberal spirit that Dewey had identified.

In his famous 1932 speech at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco, Roosevelt expressed his admiration for Woodrow Wilson as a politician who “saw the situation” of industrial power “more clearly.”[4] Even though, for political reasons, he needed to demonstrate his respect for his former boss and predecessor in office as America’s most recent Democratic president, FDR likely felt a greater affinity, as an example of the presidency, between his older cousin Teddy rather than Wilson. TR had been a rarity: a successful politician who was a genuine man of ideas (and a historian himself). He gravitated toward other such men, and in Herbert Croly, the founding editor of The New Republic, he found one able to articulate the kind of grand sweeping notion upon which he could not only base an entire political lifetime of proposed reform but even found a movement that almost succeeded in displacing the two established political parties.

The “promise” in Croly’s The Promise of American Life (1909) referred to his belief that the United States would avoid the grotesque social and economic inequality found in Europe and could chart an independent course premised on its democratic faith. This faith was grounded in the Jeffersonian worldview, which was now being challenged by the closing of the frontier and the “concentration of economic power” in corporate trusts.[5] Suddenly Alexander Hamilton’s vision of America as a future industrial powerhouse with a strong central government was looking a great deal more prophetic than the agrarian republic envisioned by his famous philosophical adversary. By the turn of the century, Croly reasoned, the only power capable of counteracting the transformation of the American economy would have to be national in scope, for the nation itself remained “the best machinery as yet developed for raising the level of human association.”[6] But because he viewed the Hamiltonian tradition in American history as corrupted by its attachment to wealthy interests, particularly banking, he sought to employ Hamiltonian mechanisms in order to achieve a Jeffersonian vision of political equality: “The whole tendency of his programme,” he explained, “is to give a democratic meaning and purpose to the Hamiltonian tradition and method.”[7] The result would be a new definition of the hallowed tradition of American individualism.

Teddy Roosevelt laid the building blocks of the modern activist presidency through his belief that the office represented the will of the nation.[8] He made this point explicitly upon the passage of some of the most sweeping legislation in American history—the monitoring and regulation of the meat industry and drug trade—in 1906: “It is an absurdity to expect to eliminate the abuses in great corporations by State action. The National Government alone can deal adequately with these great corporations.”[9] He did so in part by channeling Populist rhetoric to mobilize the American people, deriding the “malefactors of great wealth” in ways that foreshadowed FDR’s chiding “economic royalists.”[10] His convictions only became bolder after he retired from the presidency. TR’s conception of “new nationalism”—the slogan for his run in 1912 as the candidate for the Progressive Party—also reflected a radical rethinking of liberalism, from which his younger cousin would later draw. In 1918, a year before he died, TR outlined a program of public works, hydroelectric power development, agricultural aid, pensions, and social insurance.[11] From there, it was a short step to the New Deal.

Franklin Roosevelt drew on all these traditions when he gave his famous speech on the “Four Freedoms” in his 1941 State of the Union address. There he enumerated what he defined as the rights everyone “everywhere in the world” ought to enjoy. These were “freedom of speech and expression,” “freedom of every person to worship God in his own way,” “freedom from want,” and “freedom from fear.”[12] Though it was hardly evident at the time, these foundational four freedoms proved the culmination of a far broader and significant intellectual project. As early as 1932 FDR had proclaimed, “Every man has a right to life, and this means that he has also a right to make a comfortable living.”[13] No longer would freedom be defined simply as protection from or against the abusive powers of government—the central idea of classical liberalism. (The philosopher Isaiah Berlin famously defined this as “negative” freedom.) While FDR accepted the importance of protection from an overreaching government, he sought to create one that could provide “positive” freedoms as well. This entailed providing citizens with the tools they needed to live lives of honor and dignity.

This radical reworking of the American creed could be seen in Roosevelt’s near-revolutionary State of the Union address—the last he delivered directly to Congress—on January 11, 1944, in which he called for a “Second Bill of Rights.”[14] The key concept in this speech was “security,” which FDR now expanded to include almost all areas of life. “Essential to peace,” the president insisted, was “a decent standard of living for all individual men and women and children in all nations. Freedom from fear is eternally linked with freedom from want.” He demanded a “realistic tax law—which will tax all unreasonable profits, both individual and corporate, and reduce the ultimate cost of the war to our sons and daughters.” We “cannot be content,” he went on, “no matter how high that general standard of living may be, if some fraction of our people—whether it be one-third or one-fifth or one-tenth—is ill-fed, ill-clothed, ill-housed, and insecure.” Then he listed the new rights he now considered to be fundamental to the American way of life:

    The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the Nation.
    The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation.
    The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living.
    The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad.
    The right of every family to a decent home.
    The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health.
    The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment.
    The right to a good education.

FDR tied these rights to the struggle then underway to win the war. “America’s own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for our citizens. For unless there is security here at home there cannot be lasting peace in the world.”[15]

Eric Alterman is a Senior Fellow at the Center for American Progress and a CUNY distinguished professor of English and journalism at Brooklyn College. He is also “The Liberal Media” columnist for The Nation. This column won the 2011 Mirror Award for Best Digital Commentary.

 
Endnotes:

 

1. For a learned and useful discussion of the ideas and influence of many of these thinkers, see Jonathan I. Israel, Enlightenment Contested: Philosophy, Modernity and the Emancipation of Man, 1670-1752 (New York: Oxford University Press, 2006).
2. Reinhold Niebuhr, “Liberalism: Illusions and Realities, The New Republic, July 4, 1955: http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/liberalism-illusions-and-realities
3. Jo Ann Boydston, ed., John Dewey: The Later Works 1925-1953 (Carbondale, IL: Southern Illinois University Press, 1991), 364-65
4. “Commonwealth Club Speech,” in Great Issues, ed. Richard Hofstadter, 347.
5. Herbert Croly, The Promise of American Life (1909; reprint, New York: Capricorn, 1964), 23.
6. Herbert Croly, The Promise of American Life, 284.
7. Herbert Croly, The Promise of American Life, 169.
8. On the relations between the growth in executive power and the Progressive Era, see Maureen Flanagan, America Reformed, 283.
9. Quoted in Michael McGerr, A Fierce Discontent, 162.
10. Quoted in Michael McGerr, A Fierce Discontent, 317.
11. John Milton Cooper, The Warrior and the Priest: Woodrow Wilson and Theodore Roosevelt (Cambridge: Belknap Press, 1983), 259.
12. Franklin Delano Roosevelt, excerpted from the Annual Message to the Congress, January 6, 1941: http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/fdrthefourfreedoms.htm
13. FDR in Great Issues in American History, ed. Richard Hofstadter, 350.
14. John Patrick Diggins, The Proud Decades: America in War and Peace, 1941-1960 (New York: Norton, 1988), 21-22.
15. Franklin D. Roosevelt, "State of the Union Message to Congress, January 11, 1944," available at http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/011144.html

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« Reply #87 on: February 07, 2016, 04:04:21 PM »
https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism

Classical liberalism

Classical liberalism holds that individual rights are natural, inherent, or inalienable, and exist independently of government. Thomas Jefferson called these inalienable rights:

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« Reply #88 on: February 07, 2016, 04:06:54 PM »
https://dlc.dcccd.edu/usgov1-2/origins-of-classical-liberalism

Origins of Classical Liberalism


In conclusion, classical liberalism is a political ideology grounded in the notion of individualism and limited government, with a large helping of property rights on the side. It demands formal political and legal equality, but does not require or even expect social and economic equality.

TA, this is the classical definition of liberalism, NOT the modern definition of liberalism.

https://dlc.dcccd.edu/usgov1-2/origins-of-classical-liberalism

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The True Idiot floundering.....

Wikipedia only helps when you actually comprehend what you're cutting and pasting.

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The True Idiot floundering.....

Wikipedia only helps when you actually comprehend what you're cutting and pasting.

Shizzo-level pathetic.

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I have done nothing but embarrass you all day today.

At least you learned something. (even though you will try to deny it)

If anything is pathetic, its the fact that you went about for decades with the wrong information in your brain, espousing it as if it were true.  I shudder to think how many morons may have listened to your tainted words.

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« Reply #92 on: February 07, 2016, 04:13:21 PM »
"No man is above the law and no man is below it; nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it." - Theodore Roosevelt.

We are all equal under the law but you cannot legislate wealth by stealing from those that make to reward those that take, for in doing so you make a mockery of justice and enslave both sides to a government that should serve, not sever our union.

Again, equal under the law.  Equal to succeed or fail.  What should have been a temporary hand up has become nothing more than a permanent hand out.

"The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - Margaret Thatcher

We the People are fast running out of both money and patience.

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« Reply #93 on: February 07, 2016, 04:16:14 PM »
I have done nothing but embarrass you all day today.

At least you learned something. (even though you will try to deny it)

If anything is pathetic, its the fact that you went about for decades with the wrong information in your brain, espousing it as if it were true.  I shudder to think how many morons may have listened to your tainted words.

What I learned today is:

You're Goodrum level of stupid
You fancy yourself a pseudo-intellectual, yet you barely comprehend 7th grade subject matter
You melt down and cry in a temper tantrum like the wee girl you are

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« Reply #94 on: February 07, 2016, 04:17:44 PM »
What I learned today is:

You're Goodrum level of stupid
You fancy yourself a pseudo-intellectual, yet you barely comprehend 7th grade subject matter
You melt down and cry in a temper tantrum like the wee girl you are
You are the one crying, not I.

I find it hilarious that you keep embarrassing yourself.  Its as if you enjoy the constant beat down and punishment.

You really put the "Cuck" in Cuckservative.

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #95 on: February 07, 2016, 04:20:28 PM »

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #96 on: February 07, 2016, 04:23:41 PM »
more inflammatory provocations from the likes of the obsidian account.

we need to unite, come together in peace and harmony instead of sowing the seeds of division, kumbaya

learn from TA, direct your effort in a manner that will improve the social fabric of society and raise the level of mediocrity

Godspeed



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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #97 on: February 07, 2016, 05:00:24 PM »
You are the one crying, not I.

I find it hilarious that you keep embarrassing yourself.  Its as if you enjoy the constant beat down and punishment.

You really put the "Cuck" in Cuckservative.

You haven't beat down anything retard.

If you had half a brain in your head you would realize how embarrassingly stupid you really are.

You thought george Orwell was a "classic liberal". All the rest of your bluster is really just trying to camouflage what a moron you really are. I'm sure you thought animal farm was a nice story about pigs!!!!!

Who will you proclaim as your next "classic liberal"......John McClain or Sarah Palin?

The True Idiot.....going down in flames and seeing the end of his pathetic Getbig existence

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #98 on: February 07, 2016, 05:25:18 PM »
Where is the gif with Kermit typing frantically? Or in True Adonis' case copy and pasting frantically.

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #99 on: February 07, 2016, 05:37:47 PM »
Where is the gif with Kermit typing frantically? Or in True Adonis' case copy and pasting frantically.

The Super Bowl is at half time. The True Idiot is whacking his meat to Coldplay, he will be back soon with more stupidity.

A lot more stupidity.

Crybaby meltdown in aisle 3.....