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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #100 on: December 17, 2015, 02:26:58 PM »
did you try what I said on page one?

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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #101 on: December 17, 2015, 02:35:38 PM »
did you try what I said on page one?

just read your post and yeah man. I did. I trained them with urgency/priority for over a decade man. They sucked the whole time, have done synthol and all that shit to have fuckin' girls with better calves than me.

Fuck it.
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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #102 on: December 17, 2015, 06:48:50 PM »
just read your post and yeah man. I did. I trained them with urgency/priority for over a decade man. They sucked the whole time, have done synthol and all that shit to have fuckin' girls with better calves than me.

Fuck it.

day 1 superheavy, day 2 high rep pump day 3 rest  then repeat?  no growth? weird.

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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #103 on: December 17, 2015, 08:10:06 PM »
day 1 superheavy, day 2 high rep pump day 3 rest  then repeat?  no growth? weird.
i will start this tomorrow
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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #104 on: December 17, 2015, 09:37:33 PM »
i will start this tomorrow

the cramping pump you will get on day two is amazing.  it'll be like nothing you've felt before.

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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #105 on: January 09, 2016, 12:11:31 PM »
day 1 superheavy, day 2 high rep pump day 3 rest  then repeat?  no growth? weird.

If not mistaken... You're the guy who after something like 6-12 workouts looks better than all of us after 12 years training...

Do you think, that just maybe, it's possible you have better genetics than us and is why your calves actually respond???

To think you think that would work for everyone is a hell of a blanket statement man.

I like reading your posts, it gives me stuff to think about but if that was a sure thing, it would be flat out known and you would not see people with shitty calves like myself.
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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #106 on: January 09, 2016, 01:07:13 PM »
If not mistaken... You're the guy who after something like 6-12 workouts looks better than all of us after 12 years training...

Do you think, that just maybe, it's possible you have better genetics than us and is why your calves actually respond???

To think you think that would work for everyone is a hell of a blanket statement man.

I like reading your posts, it gives me stuff to think about but if that was a sure thing, it would be flat out known and you would not see people with shitty calves like myself.


blowing up a balloon is much easier the second time.  the first time I gained my size was over a 15 year span, at less than 1 pound per month.

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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #107 on: January 09, 2016, 01:13:05 PM »
blowing up a balloon is much easier the second time.  the first time I gained my size was over a 15 year span, at less than 1 pound per month.

In all fairness, I trained calves a good 20 years. Don't you think if they had any potential to grow, they would have, even if what (for the sake of argument) was not 100% ideal?

I've even done synthol! To be left with what?

16inches on a good day. Bah, fuck it man! LOL....
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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #108 on: January 09, 2016, 01:17:12 PM »
In all fairness, I trained calves a good 20 years. Don't you think if they had any potential to grow, they would have, even if what (for the sake of argument) was not 100% ideal?

I've even done synthol! To be left with what?

16inches on a good day. Bah, fuck it man! LOL....

so your saying it makes no difference how one trains??  all types of training will result in identical progress, mitigated solely by genetics?

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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #109 on: January 09, 2016, 01:33:46 PM »
so your saying it makes no difference how one trains??  all types of training will result in identical progress, mitigated solely by genetics?

All I can say is I've done every single f'in protocol for nothing to work. What would you do/say if you were in my shoes?

Of course it matters how you train. I've done the standard stuff, the opposite of the standard an everything in between.

Genetics...
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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #110 on: January 09, 2016, 01:45:06 PM »
All I can say is I've done every single f'in protocol for nothing to work. What would you do/say if you were in my shoes?

Of course it matters how you train. I've done the standard stuff, the opposite of the standard an everything in between.

Genetics...

well, if you don't expect anything to change in the next 8 weeks, why not give this a try, a good, earnest try, and let me know what you gain from it.  if the answer is nothing, I will cease to recommend this protocol.

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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #111 on: January 09, 2016, 01:50:38 PM »
well, if you don't expect anything to change in the next 8 weeks, why not give this a try, a good, earnest try, and let me know what you gain from it.  if the answer is nothing, I will cease to recommend this protocol.

I'm beyond giving a shit now, lol!

Been motivated so many times before to end up as I am now. I appreciate your post though!
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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #112 on: January 09, 2016, 02:00:49 PM »
I'm beyond giving a shit now, lol!

Been motivated so many times before to end up as I am now. I appreciate your post though!

I force fed myself day and night, never missing a single workout for over a decade and never managed to gain a full pound a month.  but I did not lose my determination.  over 120 months I gained 100 lbs. and that seems like a crazy amount of weight, but the volume of training and stuffing food down my throat for less than 1 pound per months seems completely futile in retrospect.  my point being, I don't think there is anyone who is/was as slow a gainer as I was when I originally built the muscle.  but after maintaining it for another 15 years, it returns very quickly after a layoff.

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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #113 on: January 09, 2016, 02:04:30 PM »
I force fed myself day and night, never missing a single workout for over a decade and never managed to gain a full pound a month.  but I did not lose my determination.  over 120 months I gained 100 lbs. and that seems like a crazy amount of weight, but the volume of training and stuffing food down my throat for less than 1 pound per months seems completely futile in retrospect.  my point being, I don't think there is anyone who is/was as slow a gainer as I was when I originally built the muscle.  but after maintaining it for another 15 years, it returns very quickly after a layoff.

I started at 150lbs got up to 238 at one point! I know about force feeding am not willing to do it anymore as the weight is lost the second I miss a meal.

Taking long term "Levrone like" layoff for now, hoping to come back able to at least go back to compound lifts as I was doing nothing but machines the last 6ish weeks of training.

Calves are my least of worries for now even though, I could train them as I have no injuries related to that area on me now.

But when hope is lost, it's lost and trust me, it's lost.
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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #114 on: January 09, 2016, 03:36:25 PM »
I started at 150lbs got up to 238 at one point! I know about force feeding am not willing to do it anymore as the weight is lost the second I miss a meal.

Taking long term "Levrone like" layoff for now, hoping to come back able to at least go back to compound lifts as I was doing nothing but machines the last 6ish weeks of training.

Calves are my least of worries for now even though, I could train them as I have no injuries related to that area on me now.

But when hope is lost, it's lost and trust me, it's lost.

quite odd that you are posting in the calf thread then ???

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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #115 on: January 09, 2016, 03:46:30 PM »
quite odd that you are posting in the calf thread then ???

I'm a walking contradiction...

Also a "heads up" "reality" check for those who were like myself and thought they could change something that can't be changed.

You have them, or you don't.

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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #116 on: May 11, 2016, 10:25:32 AM »
buy a weight vest and gomountain running. need more than tge gym and drop sets

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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #117 on: September 14, 2016, 05:30:01 PM »



I think I've already posted here, and realise am probably the exception not the rule as have no doubt above posters have put in solid efforts to grow them with little return.
Left is 21yrs old 72kg, right 41yrs old and 98kg.

Biggest difference I found was not going heavy, alot of walking, obviously overweight people have larger calf muscles just from weight carrying and cycling 45mins daily consciously flexing the calves on each revolution. Takes some getting used to. But worked for me.

Pity my arms wont grow though

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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #118 on: November 23, 2016, 04:23:43 PM »
Real simple, keep the reps between 8-10. Going light and doing tons of reps is a waste of time of you want your calves to grow. They get enough reps when you walk and do cardio.
Seated Calf Raises: 3 sets of 8
Standing Calf Raise: 3 sets of 8

I do them on back day and leg day, 2x per week.

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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #119 on: May 05, 2018, 10:28:34 AM »
original link is broken can anyone shed some light on how to do this? my calves need help

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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #120 on: May 13, 2018, 02:06:53 PM »
Love this thread.

Most guys never or only train calves infrequently.  They are not an exciting bodypart.

Just train them every workout for 6 sets of 8-20 reps.

Every workout.

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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #121 on: January 10, 2019, 03:04:46 AM »
This is a great thread and calves can be built by frequency from nothing. For the last 2 years I have trained mine at the start of every work out. Mine aren't as impressive as the guys on the first page but they are my most commented on body part at the gym  :)







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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #122 on: January 10, 2019, 04:12:54 AM »
This is a great thread and calves can be built by frequency from nothing. For the last 2 years I have trained mine at the start of every work out. Mine aren't as impressive as the guys on the first page but they are my most commented on body part at the gym  :)








Awesome. 

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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #123 on: January 29, 2019, 07:02:29 AM »
This is a great thread and calves can be built by frequency from nothing. For the last 2 years I have trained mine at the start of every work out. Mine aren't as impressive as the guys on the first page but they are my most commented on body part at the gym  :)







freakin incredible, nice job.  Every damn workout??!!

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Re: The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more
« Reply #124 on: January 29, 2019, 07:04:13 AM »
Love this thread.

Most guys never or only train calves infrequently.  They are not an exciting bodypart.

Just train them every workout for 6 sets of 8-20 reps.

Every workout.
I want that enthusiasm and tell myself I'll train them every workout, yet fail to do so once I get there, lol.   :)