The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more

[hazbin]

did you try what I said on page one?

[ritch]

did you try what I said on page one?

just read your post and yeah man. I did. I trained them with urgency/priority for over a decade man. They sucked the whole time, have done synthol and all that shit to have fuckin' girls with better calves than me.

Fuck it.

[hazbin]

just read your post and yeah man. I did. I trained them with urgency/priority for over a decade man. They sucked the whole time, have done synthol and all that shit to have fuckin' girls with better calves than me.

Fuck it.

day 1 superheavy, day 2 high rep pump day 3 rest  then repeat?  no growth? weird.

[NaturalWonder83]

day 1 superheavy, day 2 high rep pump day 3 rest  then repeat?  no growth? weird.

i will start this tomorrow

[hazbin]

i will start this tomorrow

the cramping pump you will get on day two is amazing.  it'll be like nothing you've felt before.

[ritch]

day 1 superheavy, day 2 high rep pump day 3 rest  then repeat?  no growth? weird.

If not mistaken... You're the guy who after something like 6-12 workouts looks better than all of us after 12 years training...

Do you think, that just maybe, it's possible you have better genetics than us and is why your calves actually respond???

To think you think that would work for everyone is a hell of a blanket statement man.

I like reading your posts, it gives me stuff to think about but if that was a sure thing, it would be flat out known and you would not see people with shitty calves like myself.

[hazbin]

If not mistaken... You're the guy who after something like 6-12 workouts looks better than all of us after 12 years training...

Do you think, that just maybe, it's possible you have better genetics than us and is why your calves actually respond???

To think you think that would work for everyone is a hell of a blanket statement man.

I like reading your posts, it gives me stuff to think about but if that was a sure thing, it would be flat out known and you would not see people with shitty calves like myself.

blowing up a balloon is much easier the second time.  the first time I gained my size was over a 15 year span, at less than 1 pound per month.

[ritch]

blowing up a balloon is much easier the second time.  the first time I gained my size was over a 15 year span, at less than 1 pound per month.

In all fairness, I trained calves a good 20 years. Don't you think if they had any potential to grow, they would have, even if what (for the sake of argument) was not 100% ideal?

I've even done synthol! To be left with what?

16inches on a good day. Bah, fuck it man! LOL....

[hazbin]

In all fairness, I trained calves a good 20 years. Don't you think if they had any potential to grow, they would have, even if what (for the sake of argument) was not 100% ideal?

I've even done synthol! To be left with what?

16inches on a good day. Bah, fuck it man! LOL....

so your saying it makes no difference how one trains??  all types of training will result in identical progress, mitigated solely by genetics?

[ritch]

so your saying it makes no difference how one trains??  all types of training will result in identical progress, mitigated solely by genetics?

All I can say is I've done every single f'in protocol for nothing to work. What would you do/say if you were in my shoes?

Of course it matters how you train. I've done the standard stuff, the opposite of the standard an everything in between.

Genetics...

[hazbin]

All I can say is I've done every single f'in protocol for nothing to work. What would you do/say if you were in my shoes?

Of course it matters how you train. I've done the standard stuff, the opposite of the standard an everything in between.

Genetics...

well, if you don't expect anything to change in the next 8 weeks, why not give this a try, a good, earnest try, and let me know what you gain from it.  if the answer is nothing, I will cease to recommend this protocol.

[ritch]

well, if you don't expect anything to change in the next 8 weeks, why not give this a try, a good, earnest try, and let me know what you gain from it.  if the answer is nothing, I will cease to recommend this protocol.

I'm beyond giving a shit now, lol!

Been motivated so many times before to end up as I am now. I appreciate your post though!

[hazbin]

I'm beyond giving a shit now, lol!

Been motivated so many times before to end up as I am now. I appreciate your post though!

I force fed myself day and night, never missing a single workout for over a decade and never managed to gain a full pound a month.  but I did not lose my determination.  over 120 months I gained 100 lbs. and that seems like a crazy amount of weight, but the volume of training and stuffing food down my throat for less than 1 pound per months seems completely futile in retrospect.  my point being, I don't think there is anyone who is/was as slow a gainer as I was when I originally built the muscle.  but after maintaining it for another 15 years, it returns very quickly after a layoff.

[ritch]

I force fed myself day and night, never missing a single workout for over a decade and never managed to gain a full pound a month.  but I did not lose my determination.  over 120 months I gained 100 lbs. and that seems like a crazy amount of weight, but the volume of training and stuffing food down my throat for less than 1 pound per months seems completely futile in retrospect.  my point being, I don't think there is anyone who is/was as slow a gainer as I was when I originally built the muscle.  but after maintaining it for another 15 years, it returns very quickly after a layoff.

I started at 150lbs got up to 238 at one point! I know about force feeding am not willing to do it anymore as the weight is lost the second I miss a meal.

Taking long term "Levrone like" layoff for now, hoping to come back able to at least go back to compound lifts as I was doing nothing but machines the last 6ish weeks of training.

Calves are my least of worries for now even though, I could train them as I have no injuries related to that area on me now.

But when hope is lost, it's lost and trust me, it's lost.

[hazbin]

I started at 150lbs got up to 238 at one point! I know about force feeding am not willing to do it anymore as the weight is lost the second I miss a meal.

Taking long term "Levrone like" layoff for now, hoping to come back able to at least go back to compound lifts as I was doing nothing but machines the last 6ish weeks of training.

Calves are my least of worries for now even though, I could train them as I have no injuries related to that area on me now.

But when hope is lost, it's lost and trust me, it's lost.

quite odd that you are posting in the calf thread then

[ritch]

quite odd that you are posting in the calf thread then

I'm a walking contradiction...

Also a "heads up" "reality" check for those who were like myself and thought they could change something that can't be changed.

You have them, or you don't.

[kimo]

buy a weight vest and gomountain running. need more than tge gym and drop sets

[K A N N I B A L]

I think I've already posted here, and realise am probably the exception not the rule as have no doubt above posters have put in solid efforts to grow them with little return.
Left is 21yrs old 72kg, right 41yrs old and 98kg.

Biggest difference I found was not going heavy, alot of walking, obviously overweight people have larger calf muscles just from weight carrying and cycling 45mins daily consciously flexing the calves on each revolution. Takes some getting used to. But worked for me.

Pity my arms wont grow though

[Bigmacdaddy18]

Real simple, keep the reps between 8-10. Going light and doing tons of reps is a waste of time of you want your calves to grow. They get enough reps when you walk and do cardio.
Seated Calf Raises: 3 sets of 8
Standing Calf Raise: 3 sets of 8

I do them on back day and leg day, 2x per week.

[Jona]

original link is broken can anyone shed some light on how to do this? my calves need help

[IroNat]

Love this thread.

Most guys never or only train calves infrequently.  They are not an exciting bodypart.

Just train them every workout for 6 sets of 8-20 reps.

Every workout.

[Themav]

This is a great thread and calves can be built by frequency from nothing. For the last 2 years I have trained mine at the start of every work out. Mine aren't as impressive as the guys on the first page but they are my most commented on body part at the gym 

[IroNat]

This is a great thread and calves can be built by frequency from nothing. For the last 2 years I have trained mine at the start of every work out. Mine aren't as impressive as the guys on the first page but they are my most commented on body part at the gym 

Awesome. 

[jdooly]

This is a great thread and calves can be built by frequency from nothing. For the last 2 years I have trained mine at the start of every work out. Mine aren't as impressive as the guys on the first page but they are my most commented on body part at the gym 

freakin incredible, nice job.  Every damn workout??!!

[jdooly]

Love this thread.

Most guys never or only train calves infrequently.  They are not an exciting bodypart.

Just train them every workout for 6 sets of 8-20 reps.

Every workout.

I want that enthusiasm and tell myself I'll train them every workout, yet fail to do so once I get there, lol.