Define "Anti-American"

[24KT]

That's inaccurate.  Try reading "The Millionaire Next Door" and "The Millionaire Mind."  Twenty year studies of American millionaires.  They by and large do not play the market.  They buy and hold. 

I've read both. However, my comment was not about American millionaires. It was about American patriots.

People go short ALL the time. They just don't always brag about it when a crash occurs because too many people are hurting, but there's nothing wrong with it. It's the American Way... like apple pie, and tacky plastic flags.
And even though they go short, doesn't mean they don't still love their country and the constitution.

[Dos Equis]

I've read both. However, my comment was not about American millionaires. It was about American patriots.

People go short ALL the time. They just don't always brag about it when a crash occurs because too many people are hurting, but there's nothing wrong with it. It's the American Way... like apple pie, and tacky plastic flags.
And even though they go short, doesn't mean they don't still love their country and the constitution.

I was addressing this:  "That's how the rich stay rich."  The "rich" (i.e., those with a high net worth) don't typically get that way by playing the market.  They are mostly conservative investors. 

[24KT]

I was addressing this:  "That's how the rich stay rich."  The "rich" (i.e., those with a high net worth) don't typically get that way by playing the market.  They are mostly conservative investors. 

You're refering to nouveau riche. I'm not saying that's how they got there, however, it certainly is how many of them stay there. Old money definitely invests in the stock market.. long & short.

[Dos Equis]

You're refering to nouveau riche. I'm not saying that's how they got there, however, it certainly is how many of them stay there. Old money definitely invests in the stock market.. long & short.

No I'm not.  And quit using them big words, sending me to my dictionary and all.     I'm referring to American millionaires:  those with a net worth of at least a million.  If you've read The Millionaire Next Door and The Millionaire Mind you'd know that the vast majority of American millionaires did not inherit their wealth.  And they are in fact conservative investors. 

[24KT]

No I'm not.  And quit using them big words, sending me to my dictionary and all.     I'm referring to American millionaires:  those with a net worth of at least a million.  If you've read The Millionaire Next Door and The Millionaire Mind you'd know that the vast majority of American millionaires did not inherit their wealth.  And they are in fact conservative investors. 

It's easy to be a millionaire. I'm talking serious money that's easily liquidatable! keep up please!

[spotter]

To me it's someone who doesn't believe in the core principles of our "constitution"   

"Tell me"..."Is it." I have the right to Bear Arms"?, or "Is it the right to Arm Bears"?

[OzmO]

"Tell me"..."Is it." I have the right to Bear Arms"?, or "Is it the right to Arm Bears"?

Only when the bears are sedated.  Otherwise we'll be force to make laws that protect you from your choices:

like pot and prostitution   

[Dos Equis]

It's easy to be a millionaire. I'm talking serious money that's easily liquidatable! keep up please!

Oh right.  A net worth of a million is not "easy."  Hogwash.  I'm not talking about people who have high incomes.  Now that is fairly easy, depending on your profession.  The creation of wealth (i.e., a high net worth) is not.  It takes years for most American millionaires to accumulate a high net worth.  And they typically don't get, and stay, there by being high risk investors.      

[24KT]

Oh right.  A net worth of a million is not "easy."  Hogwash.  I'm not talking about people who have high incomes.  Now that is fairly easy, depending on your profession.  The creation of wealth (i.e., a high net worth) is not.  It takes years for most American millionaires to accumulate a high net worth.  And they typically don't get, and stay, there by being high risk investors.      

If it's not easy, it's because most people follow teachings that are designed to keep other people wealthy and them employed. You're never going to get wealthy worrying about your bosses bottom line which is what most of society is taught to do. Furthermore who is talking high risk? You're steering this completely off track. The bottom line is there is nothing UN-American about going short as the earlier poster claimed.

[Dos Equis]

If it's not easy, it's because most people follow teachings that are designed to keep other people wealthy and them employed. You're never going to get wealthy worrying about your bosses bottom line which is what most of society is taught to do. Furthermore who is talking high risk? You're steering this completely off track. The bottom line is there is nothing UN-American about going short as the earlier poster claimed.

Who's talking about being "un-American"?  I was addressing the discrete point you made about wealthy people in America playing the market.  That's it. 

A very large percentage of American millionaires run their own business, so it's true that it is difficult for many people to create wealth, because they are punching someone else's clock.   

[24KT]

Who's talking about being "un-American"?  I was addressing the discrete point you made about wealthy people in America playing the market.  That's it. 

OKMike was. that's who.
I was addressing his comment about it being UN-American to want the stock market to crash.
I was pointing out that plenty of American's bet on it crashing all the time. It's the American way.

Maybe you should read the threads before comenting on them... makes ya look less stooopid, ...if that's possible 

[Dos Equis]

OKMike was. that's who.
I was addressing his comment about it being UN-American to want the stock market to crash.
I was pointing out that plenty of American's bet on it crashing all the time. It's the American way.

Maybe you should read the threads before comenting on them... makes ya look less stooopid, ...if that's possible 

Here is what I was addressing:

Quote from: jaguarenterprises on February 27, 2007, 07:42:13 PM
American patriots have cheered for the stock market to crash since the invention of the stock market. It's only the masses that mistakenly think it should always be up. That's how the rich stay rich. They know Joe average is going to be going long, ...while they are able to read the writing on the wall, properly interpret the data, understand the ramifications both short term and long term, ...and they bet accordingly. it's the American way. Don't kid yourself... when the stock market crashes, ...there are fortunes made. $$$$

That's factually inaccurate, and I've already explained why.

And regarding me being stupid:  I plead guilty.     Regarding you calling me stupid, I had a conversation with a wise man on Friday.  I was trying to make the point that it is important not make any enemies in such a small town (we have well over 800,000 in this town, but it's creepy how so many of us are connected).  He told me it isn't so much whether you have enemies, but who those enemies are, because they help define you.  I thought that was a profound statement (and I agree).  So . . . even though you're not my enemy, what I'm trying to say is I take comfort in the fact that you call me stupid.      

[OzmO]

Here is what I was addressing:

That's factually inaccurate, and I've already explained why.

And regarding me being stupid:  I plead guilty.     Regarding you calling me stupid, I had a conversation with a wise man on Friday.  I was trying to make the point that it is important not make any enemies in such a small town (we have well over 800,000 in this town, but it's creepy how so many of us are connected).  He told me it isn't so much whether you have enemies, but who those enemies are, because they help define you.  I thought that was a profound statement (and I agree).  So . . . even though you're not my enemy, what I'm trying to say is I take comfort in the fact that you call me stupid.      

Everyone in that entire state is connected.  You probably know Sal and Ernie, and if you don't, some you know does.   There isn't 6 degrees of separation there it's more like 2.

[Dos Equis]

Everyone in that entire state is connected.  You probably know Sal and Ernie, and if you don't, some you know does.   There isn't 6 degrees of separation there it's more like 2.

Dude.  You have NO idea (well, yes you do  .  I was at the state senate on Friday to testify on behalf of a friend and former co-worker who has been nominated for position in state government by the Governor.  It was fascinating to see the people in the room and how we all know this person.  During a break I went to lunch with an older man who had previously employed the nominee.  I know this older man, because he is head of the board of directors for a nonprofit that I volunteer with.  When I get back to my office and talked about the hearing and my lunch it turns out one of the secretaries in my office used to baby-sit this older man's kids.  I have about a hundred stories like this.     

[OKMike]

OKMike was. that's who.
I was addressing his comment about it being UN-American to want the stock market to crash.
I was pointing out that plenty of American's bet on it crashing all the time. It's the American way.

Maybe you should read the threads before comenting on them... makes ya look less stooopid, ...if that's possible 

You misunderstood the post.  I was referring to those who would like to see the American economy crippled to weaken its position in the world, not to make a few bucks.

[ToxicAvenger]

To me it's someone who doesn't believe in the core principles of our "constitution"   

anti bush = anti american
anti zionism = anti american


 


gawd i'm travelling to paki come august..i'm soooooo gonna get harassed..     luckily..i'll have plenty of valium on me!

[Thin Lizzy]

You misunderstood the post.  I was referring to those who would like to see the American economy crippled to weaken its position in the world, not to make a few bucks.

Lefties always cream in their pants when the stock market takes a hit because they think that this might be the time when the rest of us come to our senses and cry out for the Capitalist system to be replaced by a Marxist/Socialist model.

Sorry, Pinkos. Not gonna happen.

Go cry on Noam Chomsky's and Howard Zinn's shoulders.

[BRUCE]

Lefties always cream in their pants when the stock market takes a hit because they think that this might be the time when the rest of us come to our senses and cry out for the Capitalist system to be replaced by a Marxist/Socialist model.

Sorry, Pinkos. Not gonna happen.

Go cry on Noam Chomsky's and Howard Zinn's shoulders.

I like your style, Lizzy.  The far Left and far Right's hand in hand journey is one that frequently amuses me too.

[ToxicAvenger]

I like your style, Lizzy.  The far Left and far Right's hand in hand journey is one that frequently amuses me too.

you listen to journey and cry when ya masterbate dontcha?

1 removed from inbread redneck is usually always the most rightie patrotic.. 

..even if it does his country harm..

[24KT]

You misunderstood the post.  I was referring to those who would like to see the American economy crippled to weaken its position in the world, not to make a few bucks.

No, you miscommunicated. That's not what you said, ...even if it is what you meant.
Different words have different meanings for a reason. So if you mean A... say A, ...not B.