You're already doing that, taking steroids and yo-yo dieting.
You're going from 170-180 to 215-220. That's pushing up your bodyweight.
That was possibly a one-off.
But do you recall when your homosexual brother-in-law complimented your delts, and it motivated you to train?
I too find those types of compliments motivating.
I may want to run another cycle next summer, but do it right next time. But it's not like I'm Yo-Yo dieting all the time.
I'm sticking around 170-190 pretty consistently.
I want to do another cycle...but I may not want to take the health risks. Time will tell though.
Test only should be OK. Anadrol is VERY strong. I'm not interested in taking anything too strong.
My goals are more or less achievable naturally, aside from that full/pumped look which, IMO, is only attainable on gear.
If you had the sense to keep your diet straight, you wouldn't have to try and get to that size "quickly"....BECAUSE YOU'D ALREADY HAVE IT!!
What "look"? The only one who cares about that "look" are bodybuilding wonks and nerds. Regular folk couldn't care less.
Then explain your homosexual brother-in-law who complimented your delts? Clearly normal people DO care.
And MCWAY - please get real: EVERYONE TRAINS TO LOOK BETTER. Lyle McDonald said that - everyone trains to look better naked.
That being said, I feel you get the social benefits from lifting weights, whether you are 175 or 250.
But it's sometimes nice to show off. I don't give too much of a shit though.
Consider: I bench press around 325 currently. That's stronger than 99.9% of the population. Why juice to the gills to bench 405-lb when I'm already stronger than 99.9% of the population?
Are you starting to see why I don't care THAT much?
Question, MCWAY: why do YOU want to be 220-lb? Why did you feel "motivated" when your homosexual brother-in-law complimented your delts?
Why did you care?
BS. I get my physicals yearly and my health is just fine.
Your health being fine is not the same as me having you 50 resting heart rate. My health is PERFECT, MCWAY.
There's a difference. I don't want to compromise my health too much.
I can and do make exceptions, obviously. But my major priority is health.
I sure do, because I'm not using steroids; nor am I straining my heart or other organ by yo-yo dieting.
I did that ONE time, MCWAY.
How long have you been a 5'9" and 220-lb perma-bulker?
You don't care about your health. That's just your excuse for your pathetic diet. If you were really that paranoid, you wouldn't be any near any anabolics.
Again: one-time deal under extremely tested and monitored conditions.
I AM willing to compromise my health, SOMEWHAT.
But the bottom line is: excess food intake is not good for us.
Kevin Levrone was RETIRED in 2013, not "off-season". BTW, Tony "the Jet Man" Pearson won the AAU Masters Mr. Universe two years ago, at age 63, and is still training. Robby Robinson is in his 70s. Ronnie Coleman and Dennis James are pushing 60. Vince Taylor is 65.
Dennis James is 57. Ronnie Coleman is 58. That's not very old, MCWAY. Both will be dead by 65.
Vince Taylor was never the size freak of either one. Tony Pearson literally competed at 190.
That is utterly absurd.
So you think you walking around at 220 is doing your body favours over being 185? Why do you carry that extra mass? If you are natural as claimed, you can't be particularly lean at 220. So why not cut to being 185 and pretty lean?
First, I've lived in cold-weather places (i.e. Kansas City and Williamsburg). Do you think I decided, "well, no one is going to see my physique; so I'll drop 40 pounds and be a twig again?" Hardly!!
Neither of those cities get to -40° F in the winter, MCWAY.
There is benefit to me being heavier right now, and since I now know I can get to over 200-lb in literally the span of three weeks on Dbol, I just don't give a shit.
I also train for strength. Our goals are different.
I feel strength training progress is a lot more realistic for naturals than muscle building.
I agree I haven't given natural bulking enough of an honest effort. But tell me what's so great about being 200+ pounds?
I'm 190 now, and it's a good size for me.
Why don't you go to 250, MCWAY? Maybe because you are happy at 220?
Second, you don't give two spits about your health. If you did, the LAST thing you would be doing is taking gear (especially the harsher ones like Anadrol or Dianabol) and fluctuation bodyweight.
I drank Vodka last week, MCWAY.
I consider myself a non-drinker.
But I did it.
Because I drank ONE TIME, does that mean I don't care about my health?
The fact that I did steroids ONCE is proof I do care about my health.
I admit though - I do prefer my look at 205.
But it's all a trade-off, right?
And, thirdly, you keep making this bogus narrative about training for size vs. strength when such is not necessary. Common sense says you'd be WAY STRONGER at 205 than 170, if your body fat is only marginally increased at that higher bodyweight.
I was training in the 12+ rep range, so not really.
For the type of training I was doing, I was strong...but not as strong pound for pound.
How come IFBB pros aren't stronger than comparable weight Strongmen, MCWAY?
Because they don't train for strength.
I am training in the 1-6 rep range now, and have good lifts [e.g., bench press 325, deadlift 495, etc].
YOU WANTED TO DO THAT (or close to that, as you stated your goal was 215).
And, you'd shrink just as quickly....just as you have.
Correct. That was the expectation.
I don't want to eat and shit more. Call it laziness, or whatever.
What's stopping you from bulking up to 300, MCWAY?
No doctor worth his degree would state that steroid use and fluctuating bodyweight are healthy behaviors, no matter what your resting heart rate is.
That's why I only did it as a one-off.
But...I wouldn't mind running some test starting at early as Valentine's Day, or by June - to be big again by summertime. I'll keep you posted if I do that.
FYI - I am 190-lb now, but that's not the same as the "look" from 190 on gear.
I'm faster at 170, but stronger at 190. Its a trade-off.
