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Getbig Misc Too Board => Past IFBB & NPC Contests Boards => 2009 NPC Contests Info, Competitors & Discussion => Topic started by: BigPablo300 on September 16, 2009, 10:48:27 AM
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Ok fellow competitors, fans and loyal troops to the IL revolution! They may have tore down the MD thread but they won't bring us down.
Time to discuss the IL scene. No holds barred here guys. Speak what's on your minds.
Let's start with why the fuck did they tear down my "Is IL Bodybuilding Dead?" thread on MD. Yes MD, the site which is supposed to be NO BULL. NO BULL my ass.
Let's get this party started!!!
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BigPablo,
Welcome to the ONLY bodybuilding message board that is worth posting on, the only bodybuilding message board that controls the entire bodybuilding industry post by post and thread after thread. The only bodybuilding message board where anarchy and pandemonium rules and respect and keeping peace drools.
Welcome to Getbig.com The Wild Wild West of bodybuilding message boards owned and operated by the bespectacled obese schmoe, Ron Avidan.
Let me lay down a few ground rules, though... even Getbig has a few Cardnial Rules. Jot these down...
1. Never say anything about Jay Cutler's wife...
2. It's only gay if you want it to be...
3. Support Isreal...
4. If there aren't any pics then it didn't happen!
5. If you make any outrageous claims be sure you can back them up...
With the liquidation and vaporization of previous bodybuilding threads associated with bodybuilding in the state of Illinois, I am glad you finally seen the bright white light and brought it here. On Getbig, anyting goes. On Getbig, I am allowed to post.
You say PARTY, I come a running... who brought the chips?
- Block!
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gotta love all the MD and RX guys when they realize there no bull hardcore forum's are a mere facade.And that GB is the only true no holds barred forum with little to no censorship unlike the others.
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gotta love all the MD and RX guys when they realize there no bull hardcore forum's are a mere facade.And that GB is the only true no holds barred forum with little to no censorship unlike the others.
It took me only a month before Rx banned me. It was because I exposed the lies of most pro bodybuilders and hurt the feelings of phaggot schmoes who adored them. MD put me on lockdown when I gave my password to ripitup. She got me red flaged actually. Haha...
BigPablo300 & TheBlockHead:
Two of Illinois Most Wanted in the same muthafuckin' place at the same muthafuckin' TIME! Ouch!
...aint nuthin' but a gangsta party!
- Block!
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It took me only a month before Rx banned me. It was because I exposed the lies of most pro bodybuilders and hurt the feelings of phaggot schmoes who adored them. MD put me on lockdown when I gave my password to ripitup. She got me red flaged actually. Haha...
BigPablo300 & TheBlockHead:
Two of Illinois Most Wanted in the same muthafuckin' place at the same muthafuckin' TIME! Ouch!
...aint nuthin' but a gangsta party!
- Block!
It took me only a week to realize that RX muscle is a gay schmoe site where the posters seem to know more about universal questions about the existence of God and paranormal phenomenon amongst others including but not limited to parallel universes and whether the Theory of Evolution can actually be considered a scientific theory at all (considering it cannot be tested) than they know about how Insulin works! I kid you not.
Seriously, there is a such thing as Google and even books. Yes, books. Those things you read in school which contain various letters that form words and ultimately sentences!
Anyway, I am glad to be here and hope that many of my followers join in what should be a very fun ride into the underbelly of the IL bodybuilding subculture.
As for MD, well it was fun while it lasted and I looked at it from the stand point that I had a large target audience there to get a lot of feedback. Hopefully we will see some of the others here soon. The word is already out and I brought the dip!
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welcome Pablo visit the gossip & opinion board to learn more about the L Dawg principles....
Don't know much about the chicago underbelly but I'm a life long cubs fan....
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Don't know much about the chicago underbelly but I'm a life long cubs fan....
I wouldn't be bragging about that Mr. Quarter Rep.
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I wouldn't be bragging about that Mr. Quarter Rep.
I'm a born loser baby...why not root for them...
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welcome Pablo visit the gossip & opinion board to learn more about the L Dawg principles....
Don't know much about the chicago underbelly but I'm a life long cubs fan....
Well you don't have to know about the Chicago underbelly to enjoy this thread! After all, BULLSHIT is BuLlShIt is bullshit no matter how you put it, say it or where you live.
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YO BLOCK! Did you do a write up on the Continental? If so, you should post it up in this thread.
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YO BLOCK! Did you do a write up on the Continental? If so, you should post it up in this thread.
Not yet and I am not sure if I will.
There are a few IL guys who post here on Getbig but most of them are afraid to post here as Getbig is harsh and very brutal. Keep soreading the word that the IL thread has moved here. It'll take time but once it building momentum it will be unstoppable and the MODERATORS on here won't delete or move anything.
To make a long write-up short; I think the USA Continental was a shell in it's former glory. It wasn't as good as it was in 2006, 2007 and 2008. It was good but it wasn't over the top like it usually is. I think it was a combination of the pre-judging being over within 30 minutes and because the competitive pool hasn't been as deep as it was in the past.
The 2009 Ironman should be interesting...
- Block!
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Not yet and I am not sure if I will.
There are a few IL guys who post here on Getbig but most of them are afraid to post here as Getbig is harsh and very brutal. Keep soreading the word that the IL thread has moved here. It'll take time but once it building momentum it will be unstoppable and the MODERATORS on here won't delete or move anything.
To make a long write-up short; I think the USA Continental was a shell in it's former glory. It wasn't as good as it was in 2006, 2007 and 2008. It was good but it wasn't over the top like it usually is. I think it was a combination of the pre-judging being over within 30 minutes and because the competitive pool hasn't been as deep as it was in the past.
The 2009 Ironman should be interesting...
- Block!
Yeah, I must agree. The competition was lame compared to last year. Those IL guys should just post anyway. Who cares?
There seemed to be quite a bit of flaming on MD when I had my IL thread up.
Funny thing is supposedly several mods are helping to figure out what happened to my thread. Hmmmm..... I think it just must of collapsed upon itself. I guess it was a star that shined too bright at the end of its lifetime and exploded pooling its energy into a black hole devoid of life and erasing its mere existence forever.
I like how I was told several times that it was just moved. I guess my 200 posts were just moved as well then. Maybe I should ask Rx Muscle if they have seen my posts??? Oh cyberspace where art thy posts?
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Congratulations to Erick Seng on doing the Team Universe. I believe he is from Chicago.
We also should be supporting Vinny who has a thread on MD under contest prep who is doing the upcoming Border States. Let's show him some support, go over and drop him a line.
V-Man
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Congratulations to Erick Seng on doing the Team Universe. I believe he is from Chicago.
We also should be supporting Vinny who has a thread on MD under contest prep who is doing the upcoming Border States. Let's show him some support, go over and drop him a line.
V-Man
Let's not forget about Jennifer Cowan who took 2nd in the Women's Lightweights and Ivor Brown who took 4th in the Men's Welterweights.
Give it up for Alicia Harris who placed 3rd at the Atlantic City Pro receiving her Olympia Qualification, as well.
- Block!
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Does anybody have any info about this new organization being run by Paul Dillet and Wayne Demilla? It's called the WBFF and I think that it's in its second year and really starting to take off.
Just curious.
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Does anybody have any info about this new organization being run by Paul Dillet and Wayne Demilla? It's called the WBFF and I think that it's in its second year and really starting to take off.
Just curious.
It's all based in Canada.
- Block!
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Excellent posts by Block lately! ;D
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Excellent posts by Block lately! ;D
Thanks, Joe...
I consider you a part of the Illinois bodybuilding scene.
- Block!
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Thanks, Joe...
I consider you a part of the Illinois bodybuilding scene.
- Block!
I am honored, sir!
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I need all my IL bodybuilders who mix it up here on Getbig to follow me over here and let's talk bodybuilding in Illinois.
The 2009 Midwest Ironman is in 5 weeks.
I didn't get a flyer for the show... :-X
I hear it looks different and there will be an actual Friday Night Lights weigh-in at USA Gym in Bridgeview.
Speak upon this!
- Block.
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Where can I find more info on that show, Block?
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Where can I find more info on that show, Block?
Many have asked but few know the true answer to this complex riddle known as the Ironman.
You can email him directly at: chuck@usagyminc.com
Your best bet is to call USA at: 708-598-3846
Wow! I'm USA's PR man! HAHA!
Seriously though, if they are serious about making this shit better than they will help you out with any info and a flyer which Block apparently did not recieve. Pity........ it really is a great flyer.
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I need all my IL bodybuilders who mix it up here on Getbig to follow me over here and let's talk bodybuilding in Illinois.
The 2009 Midwest Ironman is in 5 weeks.
I didn't get a flyer for the show... :-X
I hear it looks different and there will be an actual Friday Night Lights weigh-in at USA Gym in Bridgeview.
Speak upon this!
- Block.
We need to get this pary started!
It really is a shame how right when my MD thread went down it seemed like the IL scene fell back into its slumber. Something must be going on right now. I have had my head in the books lately and have not had the energy to get on here and tear things up.
Where is the IL crew at? I know you guys are registered by now! Come post! Post away bitches!!!
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BLOCK, will you be in attendance at the 2009 MIDWEST REGIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS in palatine next sat the 10th? 1200 W. ALGONQUIN RD.
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I did not get registered until today. So it took about 2 weeks to be approved by Get Big. Maybe other guys having the same problem. The general thoughts as to the Ironman up north is most guys are not doing it or going to it. I work out at LIfetime in Skokie (1 mile from home) and not that many people that compete there, but a few. However, I do talk to a lot of people at X Sport in Moton Grove which is near me and brings out a lot of competitors. I know of only 1 guy who may do it and would be novice. My guess the show will be weaker than last year bc people are sick of the same old shit. Chuck only cares about making money, not running a quality show. Everyone knows this and I think are finally deciding no more, at least I hope so. LIke he said compete elsewhere and I believe people may come out from under the eather
I honestly believe that the INTERNET and the networking technology and mass communication ability it yeilds is the fly in the ointment of people who don't like their cheese moved and the villagers who claim that the emperor is wearing clothes when clearly he is not.
sbh570,
Can you give the Getbiggers from Illinois a quick briefing about your "get the fuck out of here" experiences with 'Double J' from Ottawa, IL?
I also train at XSport-Niles from time to time and speak to many ears and my intel sources show a drop in competitors entering the show and spectators in attendence.
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BLOCK, will you be in attendance at the 2009 MIDWEST REGIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS in palatine next sat the 10th? 1200 W. ALGONQUIN RD.
Naaa, ni ggah! I won't. I know about it, though. Promotional flyers plastered at every single XSport in the entire Chicagoland area. I'll be at Great America that day.
- Block!
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Bad memories once again must be re-visited. When I have time later tonight I will once again post a story about Jeff Johnson. A cheap, lying, promotor prick asshole NPC judge from Illinois who is second in command to the great Chuck Sanow who does not care about a thing in BB except making a buck and to accomplish his only concern, making $, must put on shit shows to save expenses anywhere and everywhere.
That's the ticket, sbh! You'll do just fine here at Getbig.
Read GOSSIPS & OPINIONS when you have time. If you don't understand the cynical, harsh and vulgar spirit of this website then you never will.
Please re-hash this story for all of the readers here to see.
- Block!
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Thanks for rehashing the story for all the viewers here, sbh.
I didn't know much about Double J but this stroy brings alot of light to his mystique. I am not suprised by it at all. It makes me wonder if he knew that a young Art Atwood has recently won Overall titles.
In your opinion, sbh... what would it take for the competitors, former competitors and fans of the NPC-IL to regain the trust of their local power-brokers who run shit around here?
So many people have so many different views on it all but I would like to see what you have to say...
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I must make one correction to my above post. Art Atwood won the Wisc open super heavies b4 the mid il and not the overall. As to your Q I will get to that when I have a chance to give it thought, but my immediate reaction is that the people (Most) running BB in IL are a tight click who refuse to accept change and only looking for higher profits which results in poor quality shows. They also are not objective with judging. 2 examples of what I just stated. #1 Jeff J takes over as top promoter of the Cont. and the trophies this year are smaller. Last year they were all the same size. This year, still nice, but 2nd place and down they were made smaller. #2 Mel winning the Illinois. I personally like Mel from the few times I have spoken to him, but he was not even close to the middleweight and I like size. The bottom line is the show was over b4 it started. Chuck"s guy and the judges "good old boys" knew it. The middle went on to place second at the J nat. Where do think Mel would have placed at th JRs.? Bottom line Illinois needs to CLEAN HOUSE! TRUST WILL NEVER BE REGAINED WITH THE "GOOD OLD BOYS"
You aren't the only person(s) who noticed the trophies got smaller which translates to cutting co$ts. Lots of competitors who run wild in my grand network noticed and weren't happy. It wasn't because of the physical trophies it was because it was a SIGN OF THE TIMES. It already started to spread like a California wild fire that proprietorship of the USA Continental exchanged hands from innovators Rob & Darlene Mayo to Double J and company. The show itself seemed about 25% watered-down compared to the last 3 years.
Little things that I knew about that out-of-the-box thinking mavericks, The Mayo's, wanted to do with the show was immediately terminated. My gut feeling tell me that the 2010 NPC USA Continental will lose it's allure and lose it's credibility it captured from the forward thinking Mayo's.
Don't get me wrong, there are alot of POSITIVES that Double J does that Chuck and his crew should be doing such as an updated website (This is 2009 almost 2010) complete with every competitor, placings and a summary report. The Mid-Illinois has it's own website that is updated and current and I believe payment to enter the show is available online. He has host hotels, a Friday night weigh-in, VIP package(s) and more sponsors.
There is not a single reason on this side of the Milky Way galaxy why the Midwest Ironman and the Illinois State show shouldn't also have their own website or an consistently updated website. In the late 80's, most of the 90's and early 2000's it didn't matter but in 2010 it is just as important as having an actual stage at a show. The competitors now grew up with the Internet and know it's a way of life. Very few old school competitors still enter the local Illinois shows and if they do they probably don't have internet access anyway so they will never complain.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
- Block.
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Did anybody catch the whole story about NPC IL competitor, Emily Reyes suing XSport and ultra-dork spandex'd pants with package on display and up his buttcrack Otomix hightop shoe wearing nerd Stoil Stove?
It was in the Tribune today. Not that I read the Tribune as I am a self-respected southsider but it was pointed out to me from somebody in The Scene.
I heard about this story a while back. ALLEGEDLY, Stoil made peep holes in the ceilings of the tanning beds and spied on Emily the way Michael Barret spied on ESPN reporter, Erin Andrews. (Allegedly).
The Tribune cited Emily's bodybuilding record as being a little bit inaccurate but I'll let that one slide.
I always thought that Stoil should have been jailed or sued by the outfits he chooses to wear in public and in the gym. Indecent Exposure is still a crime and in 2010 so is wearing the tightest spandex money can buy and cut off T-Michael sweat shirts. Or it should be.
- Block!
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Block, your Q is very difficult in terms of finding a solution, one may not like it but there is always a solution. The first thing is to remove Chuck as chairman of NPC in Illinois. He clearly loves BB but his heart is not at promoting BB in general in Illinois and this is clear given the shows he puts on and his refusal to make changes with the times as you have pointed out. Illinois finally has a 1st class show in the name of the Continental USA. This show was the creation of the Mayo's who do have there heart in BB and rewarding the competitors with a first class venue, trophies, MC, guest posers and for the most part fair judging. Unlike Chuck and Jeff J the Mayo's want to give back to the athletes for the hard work put in and in return make less $, but still make a profit and have a first class show. They set a new standard and Chuck and Jeff J could not accept this bc all they care about is turning profit. The Ironic thing is the Cont prob turned a higher profit bc it was stacked and sold out at least b4 this year. The trophies this year were smaller bc Jeff J wanted to cut expenses. Next he probably will want to move the show to a lesser venue. I believe the Cont as it once was is gone unless Jeff J steps back. The Cont was also moved forward to not interfere with the Ironman after last year. The point is the higher powers say just do as you are told. They do not want quality shows like the Cont bc it makes them look bad. I believe a new chairman like Rob Mayo or someone who really cares about the competitors would be a great start to better things to come. Next, I feel if you are training a competitor and being paid by the comp you should be disqualified from judging him or her for the show you trained the person for given the bias and clear conflict of interest. There are plenty of judges. I also feel you should not be allowed to judge unless you have competed in the past in at least 3 or more shows. Further, I feel we need more judges in general as it seems it is the same 5 people at the table and we should mix it up and have 7 judges for a more objective outcome. THe bottom line is we need change at the top and replace with people who really care and have there heart in it 100% In the meantime not go to or compete in IL shows. Things then will change bc Chuck and JJ will not put shows on at a loss.
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Block, your Q is very difficult in terms of finding a solution, one may not like it but there is always a solution. The first thing is to remove Chuck as chairman of NPC in Illinois. He clearly loves BB but his heart is not at promoting BB in general in Illinois and this is clear given the shows he puts on and his refusal to make changes with the times as you have pointed out. Illinois finally has a 1st class show in the name of the Continental USA. This show was the creation of the Mayo's who do have there heart in BB and rewarding the competitors with a first class venue, trophies, MC, guest posers and for the most part fair judging. Unlike Chuck and Jeff J the Mayo's want to give back to the athletes for the hard work put in and in return make less $, but still make a profit and have a first class show. They set a new standard and Chuck and Jeff J could not accept this bc all they care about is turning profit. The Ironic thing is the Cont prob turned a higher profit bc it was stacked and sold out at least b4 this year. The trophies this year were smaller bc Jeff J wanted to cut expenses. Next he probably will want to move the show to a lesser venue. I believe the Cont as it once was is gone unless Jeff J steps back. The Cont was also moved forward to not interfere with the Ironman after last year. The point is the higher powers say just do as you are told. They do not want quality shows like the Cont bc it makes them look bad. I believe a new chairman like Rob Mayo or someone who really cares about the competitors would be a great start to better things to come. Next, I feel if you are training a competitor and being paid by the comp you should be disqualified from judging him or her for the show you trained the person for given the bias and clear conflict of interest. There are plenty of judges. I also feel you should not be allowed to judge unless you have competed in the past in at least 3 or more shows. Further, I feel we need more judges in general as it seems it is the same 5 people at the table and we should mix it up and have 7 judges for a more objective outcome. THe bottom line is we need change at the top and replace with people who really care and have there heart in it 100% In the meantime not go to or compete in IL shows. Things then will change bc Chuck and JJ will not put shows on at a loss.
I like how you pointed out the fact that Double J was probably dispatched to neuter and neutralize the USA Continental as that show, under the control of the fallen Mayo's , as it shed light on the darkness of other shows.
It's like if you have been at a job for a long time and kind of set in your ways then your compnay hires a 'new guy' and the new guy is very enthusiastic, gung ho, brings forth new ideas and is very peppy and quick on their feet. What happens is that the older employees take threat and take offense and feel compelled to neuter & neutralize the new guy for shedding light on you and the other employee's darkness.
7 judges at the table is a MUST. There are so many qualified people around these parts. It's still always the same faces show after show. I don't object to Ernest B judging majority of the shows as Ernest B is fair and square. Not A SQUARE...but square.
If anything constantly rotating judges will create new trust and faith into the network. I honestly don't believe that there is an underground meeting behind closed-locked doors with Chuck saying... "Okay, no matter what we have to have this guy/girl win and this guy/girl take 2nd..." .
Chuck has 2 major criterias when he judges and that he asks out of his judges. 1. Be in shape. 2. Know how to pose.
I would like to see the day where to be a competitive bodybuilder in Chicagoland is COOL, again. I would like to see the day where we are the elite again and everybody who is anybody in any given gym KNOWS when the Ironman is and knows when the Illinois is. I would like to see friendly rivalry unlike Mike Costa and Brian Smith. I would like to see an era where Illinois is spoken about the way California is and the way it is in NJ or NYC.
We should be movie stars with muscle at our respective gyms. We should be gods instead of an inconvenience. I think Illinois and bodybuilders in this great state can acheive that status one day. In Time.
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Block,
Do you remember a competitor, from last years IRONMAN or the year before, im pretty sure it was last years IRONMAN. A guy in the Superheavys who competed LITERALLY OUT OF SHAPE, meaning this guy looked like he didnt even work out. Looked like he just started lifting for only a few months and decided to do a show. I couldnt believe my eyes!! Do you remember this? or anyone else remember? I have no idea what the guys name is.
"Bodybuilding causes envy and jealousy and hatred from those who dont bodybuild".....
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These are all very good points and ideas which I believe can be put in motion given the right enviroment. I personally have nothing against Chuck because to be honest with you, it's not entirely his fault that IL is in the dumps.
I understand that he is busy but he seriously has let some real bad seeds germinate under his nose. I am also aware of what happens when you ignore a probelm for too long. It just keeps growing until one day when you actually want to fix it you realize that it is too late.
It's kind of like having a big growth forming on your foot. You ignore it and ignore until one day you can't walk so you are forced to use a wheel chair. Then it takes over your entire leg and moves to your midsection. Now it is so damn big that you have to excrete your waste through a tube. It gets to a point where you are bed ridden and are being fed through a tube. Now you decide you should have it removed so you don't die.
Guess what? You can no longer have it removed because the operation will kill you. It's too damn bad that you just didn't have it taken care of earlier when it was only a minor inconvenience.
Chuck has too much going on under his nose and around him and he knows that he can't do much to change it now without major work and restructuring. You can't just implement a new system of government over night just like the IL scene can't be rebuilt instantly.
This stuff will take a lot of work and time, two things of which Chuck has no energy for or any of.
I think that we just have to stay active in implementing new ideas and blood into this scene either by direct action or show of force (ie. no fans no money). Because in my oppinion, booting Chuck out will not solve our problems here.
On a side note: The Mike and Brian pissing match was completely and utterly stupid and childish. Who in their right mind makes an account on a forum to trash talk another competitor who is talking smack about them? Who really gives a fuck? A bigger man just ignores it and moves on. If you spent your entire life argueing or bitching about someone or to someone because they hurt your feelings, you would have a sad, sad life my friend. There are much more important things than proving your manhood or standing by your competition record on some stupid forum. Give me a fuckin break!
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I'm with you on that, Pablo...
In regards to who registers to post on a forum to argue online with a rival, hahaha...
I register to post under fake names to start fights. Didn't you know that? In fact, ANYTHING that has ever been written on the world wide web that has ever insulted anybody was 100% written by me.
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Wow! What the fuck? Seriously!
I don't post for a while and everything just dies? C'mon now guys. Fuck this shit!
I have been crazy busy with school lately so I haven't been able to really spend too much time on the boards.
YO SBH570: I sent you a PM on MD.
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Wow! What the fuck? Seriously!
I don't post for a while and everything just dies? C'mon now guys. Fuck this shit!
I have been crazy busy with school lately so I haven't been able to really spend too much time on the boards.
YO SBH570: I sent you a PM on MD.
BigPab got your message and had some things shout out. Did anybody other than myself notice USA gym boycotted attending the CONT. some members did compete. Chuck was not there or his henchmen. A clear attempt to further down grade the show. I still only know of one person doing the Ironman and the irony is I am helping him with his prep. I advised him not to do that show but he said he was to far into it which you would not know by looking at him lol. HE is making improvements, but has a way to go. My problem is I had all intentions in not going and still prob will not. Unlike the Cont., the Ironman always one 2 cross over from open to novice which deprives a comp of a trophy. Lets face it, you should not be allowed to compete in both to gather more trophies. Master cross overs are completely different and can not be compared. Basically, Chuck just wants more $. Anyone have any info on people they know are doing the Ironman?
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BigPab got your message and had some things shout out. Did anybody other than myself notice USA gym boycotted attending the CONT. some members did compete. Chuck was not there or his henchmen. A clear attempt to further down grade the show. I still only know of one person doing the Ironman and the irony is I am helping him with his prep. I advised him not to do that show but he said he was to far into it which you would not know by looking at him lol. HE is making improvements, but has a way to go. My problem is I had all intentions in not going and still prob will not. Unlike the Cont., the Ironman always one 2 cross over from open to novice which deprives a comp of a trophy. Lets face it, you should not be allowed to compete in both to gather more trophies. Master cross overs are completely different and can not be compared. Basically, Chuck just wants more $. Anyone have any info on people they know are doing the Ironman?
One of the guys who posts here is doing it. He goes by the handle... 'Luv2Hurt'. I know a chick who will compete in bodybuilding (probably will be the only female competitor) and that's pretty much it.
I'll still go to it because I believe in supporting bodybuilding from the local level.
I agree with the crossovers. I remember at one of the Rockford shows I saw this wild looking blonde who looked like she was straight out of an L7 video compete in...
Figure. Open.
Figure. Masters.
Bodybuilding. Open.
Bodybuilding. Masters.
That's ridiculous. Pick one. Open and Masters I will accept but entirely different divisions I will not.
I'll go to both shows, of course in between go to XSport-Elston to train and then to Sally's to eat and at the nightshow I'll be the asshole who will prepetually have a beer in his hand staggering around making a complete asshole of himself.
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BigPab got your message and had some things shout out. Did anybody other than myself notice USA gym boycotted attending the CONT. some members did compete. Chuck was not there or his henchmen. A clear attempt to further down grade the show. I still only know of one person doing the Ironman and the irony is I am helping him with his prep. I advised him not to do that show but he said he was to far into it which you would not know by looking at him lol. HE is making improvements, but has a way to go. My problem is I had all intentions in not going and still prob will not. Unlike the Cont., the Ironman always one 2 cross over from open to novice which deprives a comp of a trophy. Lets face it, you should not be allowed to compete in both to gather more trophies. Master cross overs are completely different and can not be compared. Basically, Chuck just wants more $. Anyone have any info on people they know are doing the Ironman?
My man Nino Siciliano is competing in the Open Lightweight and Masters. This dude is crazy ripped and dense. He usually competes as a Welterweight or Middleweight but he is doing his damndest to come in tight and ripped as fuck!
He already won the open middle weight and I think he may have won the overall at the Ironman as well. He told me he's doing it because he is pissed about his 6th place finish at the Masters Nationals a couple months ago where he really should have been 4th or 5th.
He has never won the Masters at the Ironman either so he figured what the Hell!
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I saw that Chuck and most of the others were not at the Continental. Don't know what's up with that.
I do intend on going to the Ironman however. I still want to take Chuck up on his offer and hope to catch him for at least a second after the show. If anything he needs to know that I am not someone just sitting behind a screen name and I feel that my ideas and suggestions can greatly improve (or at least set the balls in motion) the state of IL bodybuilding.
I am not your normal competitor and while I would like it if my name is not tarnished by the powers that be, I don't care too much. Bodybuilding is great and I love it but it's not my whole life. I have much higher aspirations like NASA baby!
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One of the guys who posts here is doing it. He goes by the handle... 'Luv2Hurt'. I know a chick who will compete in bodybuilding (probably will be the only female competitor) and that's pretty much it.
I'll still go to it because I believe in supporting bodybuilding from the local level.
I agree with the crossovers. I remember at one of the Rockford shows I saw this wild looking blonde who looked like she was straight out of an L7 video compete in...
Figure. Open.
Figure. Masters.
Bodybuilding. Open.
Bodybuilding. Masters.
That's ridiculous. Pick one. Open and Masters I will accept but entirely different divisions I will not.
I'll go to both shows, of course in between go to XSport-Elston to train and then to Sally's to eat and at the nightshow I'll be the asshole who will prepetually have a beer in his hand staggering around making a complete asshole of himself.
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;D ;D ;D You were hammered at the 07 Ironman. How much they charge for a beer, 5$?? When does this shindig take place and who will be the guest poser??
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I saw that Chuck and most of the others were not at the Continental. Don't know what's up with that.
I do intend on going to the Ironman however. I still want to take Chuck up on his offer and hope to catch him for at least a second after the show. If anything he needs to know that I am not someone just sitting behind a screen name and I feel that my ideas and suggestions can greatly improve (or at least set the balls in motion) the state of IL bodybuilding.
I am not your normal competitor and while I would like it if my name is not tarnished by the powers that be, I don't care too much. Bodybuilding is great and I love it but it's not my whole life. I have much higher aspirations like NASA baby!
I'm glad to see you have your head on your shoulders and your feet on the ground, BP300. I knew you did but it pleases me to be reminded of that.
It's funny because in no way, shape or form do I ever intend on taking bodybuilding past anything more than maybe a Jr. Nationals at best. I do this because it is still fun for me. Nothing more.
By the way... our names are totally tarnished and always will be but I don't care. If what you tell me about 'the prez' is true then I say a Ha Ha Ha - a - Ho Ho Ho and a couple of Tra La La's.
I rather have taken a stand and spoken up for the MAJORITY(the whole actually) and been labled a punk loud-mouth than be like everybody els. EVERYBODY els...100% every single person who attends or competes at these shows. A-L-L. ALL of them... putting on a smile and fake positive attitude or stay totally silent and neutral. A nig gah like me has never been that way.
...but I keep on rockin' and keep on rockin...
Look for my homey Tim Smith to compete at the Ironman as well as friend of Blockhead, Carrie Avila.
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;D ;D ;D You were hammered at the 07 Ironman. How much they charge for a beer, 5$?? When does this shindig take place and who will be the guest poser??
I hate to admit but you are right. It was shameful. Sometimes I have no shame or no couth. Not only did I blow endless amounts of cash on that Polish beer but people kept buying rounds for me. Next thing you know I was staggering around like a hobo trying to spit game at fitness sluts and talk rubbish with anybody who will listen.
Sad part is that I will probably do the same again this year.
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I hate to admit but you are right. It was shameful. Sometimes I have no shame or no couth. Not only did I blow endless amounts of cash on that Polish beer but people kept buying rounds for me. Next thing you know I was staggering around like a hobo trying to spit game at fitness sluts and talk rubbish with anybody who will listen.
Sad part is that I will probably do the same again this year.
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;D ;D ;D I think ill join ya
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I saw that Chuck and most of the others were not at the Continental. Don't know what's up with that.
I do intend on going to the Ironman however. I still want to take Chuck up on his offer and hope to catch him for at least a second after the show. If anything he needs to know that I am not someone just sitting behind a screen name and I feel that my ideas and suggestions can greatly improve (or at least set the balls in motion) the state of IL bodybuilding.
I am not your normal competitor and while I would like it if my name is not tarnished by the powers that be, I don't care too much. Bodybuilding is great and I love it but it's not my whole life. I have much higher aspirations like NASA baby!
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rBigPabloo glad to see you have higher aspirations in life. Like you, I realized BB could only be a hobby and became a lawyer, which by the way was hell to practice when I got ready for my last few shows. I hope I am wrong but I believe Chuck will not give you the time of day and feel everyone must not compete or attend IL npc shows. That is the only solution bc they will quit when revenues are negative. Chuck has many friends and will always draw some comp. but that number is dropping fast. Please do not forget that there was to be a meeting and suddenly Mel stepped in and low and behold no meeting. I am old school and prob started to compete b4 you were born or at least in diapers. I can tell you this there way more shows with high quality BBs coming out of IL in the days that proce. Chuck only cares about making $. Ask him if he files with the IRS with his shows. I assume he does not considering he only takes cash. Please tell others to not go to any IL bb shows . BB all over even though not main stream laughs at us and things needs to be changed and will not with your support by going to the show . The east coast and west coast are so far ahead. MIKE L even was fired from MD. Like our chairman said go elsewhere if you are not happy. So if you go to Il contests you must be happy. It seems everyone complains. but accepts things. I say stop complaining and shut up if you still go to IL shows. Change will not come if you compete or attend IL shows. END OF QUESTION. THERE ARE PLENTY OF QUALITY SHOWS TO COMPETE IN NOT IN ILLNOIS. One last thing, it appears those who post with complaints with IL BB still kiss ass and are afraid to let it lose bc in my opinion.. feel they may still do an IL show. The bottom line there are 5 people who seem to judge ande run every show and in my opinion are a tight click who do not want change and control to an extent many outcomes to close shows.
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sbh570,
You are a very outspoken man. I respect that. I admire how you have the tenacity and testicular fortitude to call it a DUCK if it walks and quacks like one. I can see your passion through your teachings and I only pray more people like you stand up and get more hands on involved with the NPC of Chicagoland (Illinois).
What would America be if nobody spoke up and voiced their opinions? If there were no government watchdog groups? It would be Zombieland.
Now let me go on record and say that Chuck always been nice to me and I don't have ill opinions towards anybody in The Scene (except this wannabee diet/drug guru who sells fake gear, wears tight camoflauge thermals and can't even place in a novice class) but I believe any and every entity that yeilds control needs to be challenged.
What people like you, BigPablo and myself do is very American. It makes me toss and turn at night when every single competitor and spectator say more vile things about the Illinois-Chicagoland bodybuilding scene and the NPC but all play dumb when push comes to shove. We simply criticize the obvious but then again I'm the type of cowboy that sends e-mails to the Chicago Sun Times and various legislators demanding explanations or voicing opinions. I think Pablo does the same.
I never been the type of guy to PLAY THE GAME and TURN HIS HEAD. I can't. I won't. Why more people don't unite is beyond me.
I wondered if the release of Mike Liberatore from MD had to do with him being associated with Palumbo and not the new schmoe guru Oscar Arden. I also wondered if it was because Liberatore, even though Italian, is not a part of the East Coast scene. Steve Blechman (proprietor of MD) likes himself Italian men and that East Coast sitck.
Bodybuilders I know from NY, CT, NH and Nj always tell me that Illinois sucks and I need to move. One female bodybuilder I know who moved to Florida recently tells me and my girl tales of how the bodybuilding community is so supportive and united there. Everybody is friends with everybody and everybody helps eachother. She tells us how at the local shows everyone feels like family as if it is one big family reunion.
She pointed out that in Chicagoland there really is no bodybuilding community. She seen it more clear after spending a year out in The Sunshine State. Around our parts the bodybuilding community is broken up in sets. It's very Clan-sih and very cliquey. Most people hate eachother and everyone seems to be at war with others. Everyone is accused to flipping fake gear, everyone tries to sleep with everyone's guy or girl (or both) and everybody is jealous of everyone els. For the most part...
At shows? It's still segregated. There is tension in the air and everyone there has beef with everyone els. Every XSport has it's bodybuilding gang and that gang hates the gang of bodybuilders who train at Niles or Arlington-South. Bodybuilders migrate to different gyms NOT to mix it up and feel new and different equipment but because they got into it with this clan of bodybuilders now they can't train there anymore. It's all so sad and pathetic.
The attitudes of bodybuilders around Chiagoland is vulgar but attitude reflects leadership. I can write a book about the Fag gots, Schmoes, Fake Gear Dealers, Drug Abusers, Whore Mongers ( :-[ ) , G4P Superstars, The Lost and Delusional, Crybabies, Drama Queens, Mutts, Bottom Feeders and Groupies, Flakes, Ass Kissers, Low Lives and Freaks.
I'm sure that's every community of course but GOTTDAMN is it cancerous in Chicagoland.
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sbh570,
You are a very outspoken man. I respect that. I admire how you have the tenacity and testicular fortitude to call it a DUCK if it walks and quacks like one. I can see your passion through your teachings and I only pray more people like you stand up and get more hands on involved with the NPC of Chicagoland (Illinois).
What would America be if nobody spoke up and voiced their opinions? If there were no government watchdog groups? It would be Zombieland.
Now let me go on record and say that Chuck always been nice to me and I don't have ill opinions towards anybody in The Scene (except this wannabee diet/drug guru who sells fake gear, wears tight camoflauge thermals and can't even place in a novice class) but I believe any and every entity that yeilds control needs to be challenged.
What people like you, BigPablo and myself do is very American. It makes me toss and turn at night when every single competitor and spectator say more vile things about the Illinois-Chicagoland bodybuilding scene and the NPC but all play dumb when push comes to shove. We simply criticize the obvious but then again I'm the type of cowboy that sends e-mails to the Chicago Sun Times and various legislators demanding explanations or voicing opinions. I think Pablo does the same.
I never been the type of guy to PLAY THE GAME and TURN HIS HEAD. I can't. I won't. Why more people don't unite is beyond me.
I wondered if the release of Mike Liberatore from MD had to do with him being associated with Palumbo and not the new schmoe guru Oscar Arden. I also wondered if it was because Liberatore, even though Italian, is not a part of the East Coast scene. Steve Blechman (proprietor of MD) likes himself Italian men and that East Coast sitck.
Bodybuilders I know from NY, CT, NH and Nj always tell me that Illinois sucks and I need to move. One female bodybuilder I know who moved to Florida recently tells me and my girl tales of how the bodybuilding community is so supportive and united there. Everybody is friends with everybody and everybody helps eachother. She tells us how at the local shows everyone feels like family as if it is one big family reunion.
She pointed out that in Chicagoland there really is no bodybuilding community. She seen it more clear after spending a year out in The Sunshine State. Around our parts the bodybuilding community is broken up in sets. It's very Clan-sih and very cliquey. Most people hate eachother and everyone seems to be at war with others. Everyone is accused to flipping fake gear, everyone tries to sleep with everyone's guy or girl (or both) and everybody is jealous of everyone els. For the most part...
At shows? It's still segregated. There is tension in the air and everyone there has beef with everyone els. Every XSport has it's bodybuilding gang and that gang hates the gang of bodybuilders who train at Niles or Arlington-South. Bodybuilders migrate to different gyms NOT to mix it up and feel new and different equipment but because they got into it with this clan of bodybuilders now they can't train there anymore. It's all so sad and pathetic.
The attitudes of bodybuilders around Chiagoland is vulgar but attitude reflects leadership. I can write a book about the Fag gots, Schmoes, Fake Gear Dealers, Drug Abusers, Whore Mongers ( :-[ ) , G4P Superstars, The Lost and Delusional, Crybabies, Drama Queens, Mutts, Bottom Feeders and Groupies, Flakes, Ass Kissers, Low Lives and Freaks.
I'm sure that's every community of course but GOTTDAMN is it cancerous in Chicagoland.
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aint that the TRUF!!! preach it REVEREND BLOCK!! ;D ;D
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Block, Speaking of fake gear, do you know of any lab in the Chicago area that will test gear? Also, have you ever felt that you were COMPLETELY FUCKED ( NOT EVEN LUBING THE POLE BEFORE SHOVING IT UP YOUR ASS) at a BB show?
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Block, Speaking of fake gear, do you know of any lab in the Chicago area that will test gear? Also, have you ever felt that you were COMPLETELY FUCKED ( NOT EVEN LUBING THE POLE BEFORE SHOVING IT UP YOUR ASS) at a BB show?
Umm... no. I can find out though. Quick story...
This chick I know who is a bodybuilder who does quite well once got a bottle of PRIMOBOLAN from this one queef who dubs himself as some expert nutritional drug guru but in reality he's a wannabee in a tight Graphic T or camoflauge shirts who can't even place in a weak Novice Middleweight lineup.
Anyway after a little bit of time she got suspiscous and sent it out of state and had it tested. Turned out to be just oil with trace elements of testosterone-enanthate. No Primobolan.
I know William Llyewellan will test compounds for you for a price. He's out of Jupiter, Florida and is the author of 'ANABOLICS 2009'. You just need to send him a tiny tiny amount so it can't be classified as sending contraband through the mail. Like... traces of a dianabol tab. Maybe a little drop of an oil based compound.
Be careful where you get your gear from around here. Lots of jobless superstars around here who will LOVE to take your money for a placebo.
HA! Another story...
About a year ago I bought some anadrol tabs off of a guy who everybody knows in The Scene. He's a decent hearted guy... popular among the laides. Is very well exposed (no pun intended) but he, like ALL competitive bodybuilders, you know... flip a little gear to their homeys.
So I gave him...I don't know maybe $100 for 50 tabs and when I got home I looked at them and they were the British Dragons. Green Octagon tabs with the little dragon engraving. BD went out of buisness 5 years ago and don't even manufacture anymore. These looked kind of mint to me. I felt nothing from them. You know when you use anadrol. You get hungry, stronger and your skin gets oily and the back of your neck breaks out. I felt more off of some broke ass 'pre-workout' drink we see flooding the market today.
I wasn't angry at him because I honestly don't think he knows and if he did in no way would he flip them to anybody. As much of a D-O-G as he is I know he isn't a snake or a crook. He's a good kid. I acutally consider him a friend and real down O.G.
Have I ever felt screwed? No.
I lost to Jason David by a single point at the 2009 Illinois State. Heavyweight class. I thought I was more conditioned and have overall better structure and had better color but he was a tad bit more muscular than I was and at the end of the day it's bodyBUILDING so I was comfortable with it.
I always got what I deserved.
If I ever were to experience what you experience what you did with Double J or anything close to it I would in a pursuit of madness relentlessy plaster it over every single bodybuilding media I can find and never let it go. I would be like Andy Dufraine from 'The Shawshank Redemption'. I would endlessly write a letter until I get a real response. I would organize a real revolution and start some drama. True Story!
Most people felt they have been screwed over by NPC-IL judges. I've seen some bad calls but I also seen things like Maurice Black who is a HUGE USA Gym supporter and crony not win the 2008 Illinois State when he was clearly better than the middleweight winner, Lorenzo Pate.
I've seen Figure Bunnies who are under the TEAM MVP banner win because they were clearly better and I've seen them lose.
That's all neither here nor there... I never gripe about the judging too much because it's not a perfect system and could never be. I am more concerned about the promotion and quality of the shows.
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As you said, there are just too many competitors here who bitch and complain but never speak up or try to do something about it.
I look at it like this: I only have one life to live.
Do I live it to my full potential and do everything in my power to realize that potential? Do I live a life that I can look back on and be proud of? That my parents would be proud of? Do I live a life that's real and sincere and do things because of my love for them?
Or
Do I live a life of shame? Do I live a life that reflects how I can impress others? Do I live a life that reflects my fear of failure? Do I act like everything is cool because I don't want to get in trouble or stand out? Do I live a life of a fake and succomb to wasting it on irrelevent activities?
I am not saying by any means that I nor anyone is perfect or should be. I am saying that one day you, I and every living person will look back and ask what did I do with my life?
The IL scene is like Highschool to me. Everyone wants to be in the coolest click. The problem is this: You have to be cool to belong but in order to be cool you have to belong. Get what I'm sayin'??? You're screwed basically. Then when you look back at your Highschool days you see that all those "cool kids" are in the same situation now as they were before. Only now being cool aint so cool. Now all you have to show is that you have your cool friends (if you even stay friends) and no life, a dead end job and the rights to be in a click which gets you nothing in the outside world.
Competitors of IL,
Ask yourself this. Is your name or recognition or anything, worth losing your pride and sense of character. Is getting into that click or getting close to someone because it will elevate you to the next level (possibly) worth losing who you are deep down? We all age and our priorities change. Like it or not, one day you will no longer be on top no matter what you do.
Just saying the IL scene is messed up or ignoring it will not make it better. The East Coast and West Coast are better because they work to be better. They work together.
Do you think that half of the worlds discoveries and inventions would have been made had all the scientists brushed off the others in hopes that they would get all the fame? NO! They know better. They know that each person has a field in which they excell and that by combining forces they can reach a common goal.
What do you think would happen if every IL competitor united? It would force changes to be made that's what would happen. Look at the Ironman this year. It has mandatory Friday night weigh-ins.
If you think that just happened because they thought out of the blue "Hey, we should have Friday night weigh-ins!" Then you have some major issues. We pushed the envelope and they responded. Simple as that.
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You just got waaaaaaay to philosophical, BP300. You sound like a cross between Ayn Rand and Dr. Phil.
At the end of the day some will say The Emperor Isn't Wearing Clothes and some will insist that he is.
Everyone keep our eyes open for Herb 'Tank' Nordheimer to compete at the 2009 Ironman.
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Sorry about that. I get carried away sometimes and it can be hard to slow down the old noggin.
I am looking forward to seeing Herb and my boy Nino duking it out at the Ironman.
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Ok since I have been helping a first timer get ready for the Ironman and he has worked extremely hard. I may show for the prejudging only since everyone else who complains is still going even with their constant complaints. However, I will no longer post negative things about Illinois BB ever again bc by saying one thing and doing the opposite destroys credibility which I wish to keep.
I'll be at the Pre-Judging as well.
I go to the shows because I pride myself by keeping my fingers on the pulse of what's going on in the Illinois scene. I will support bodybuilding at the local levels but BP300 is right. Does anybody think there would be a Friday Night Weigh-In if the old thread on musculardevelopment didn't exist?
We're doing something right. It doesn't matter what you say, sbh570. You can say anything you want to cast a shadow on the IL bodybuilding scene and who runs it because it's really ME posting as YOU.
Admit it... I am really you and you are really me.
In fact. I found out recently that I am the ONLY person in this state that has these feelings towards this whole thing. So whatever you say it will be okay because I'll be the one blamed for it. Hahahaha...
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sbh,
Answer these questions for me. For fun...
1. The most overrated bodybuilder in IL.
2. The most underrated bodybuilder in IL.
3. The best bodybuilder in IL.
4. Best IL bodybuilding memory.
5. Worst. (We all know that one)
6. HOTTEST fitness slut ass in IL bodybuilding.
7. Most popular.
8. Most unpopular.
9. Hottest Couple.
10. The most NOT couple.
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1. Stoil Stole.
2. Will Ko. I agree. A tad bit more size and he'll be unstoppable.
3. Mike Liberatore or Sam Urbach. Sam is a complete screwball but nevertheless he is probably the best amateur I have ever seen on an Illinois stage.
4. The 2007 USA Continental. One of the best nights I've ever had. On stage and OFF stage... knowatImsayin?
5. The 2003 Ironman. Freezing cold. Snow everwhere. We get to Lane Tech at 9am to check-in and the whole building is locked. We had to wait until 11am when Rob & Darleen swooped in to save the day.
6. Virginia R or Alicia H. - Neither one of them are 'sluts', though... unfortunately.
7. Rob & Darleen. IL BBing Royalty among the inner-trenches.
8. Brian Smith. A good bodybuilder who's been around forever but I always heard bad things about him. Outside of him... my guy Ted Voight. He's my guy but..eh... not too popular right now.
9. Me and my chick... or Dan K & Yeni M.
10. Let me contemplate this one... lots of splitsville lately.
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WORD ON THE STREET, The Ironman looking to be bigger and better than ever. I will be at prejudging helping my boy (first timer) IL BB is great. Shit, Wisc is down to one show and therefore IL BB should be grateful of are many shows. TO everyone who complained, congrats on attending as I will after hearing all the complainers bitch but still attend. Finally, you have all realized that BB in Il is improving and everyone must go to the Ironman. Who cares that that all members of USA GYM and our chairperson, the great Chuck Sanow boycotted the Continental USA to downgrade it. It worked, the show has been diffused. Just wait until next year, I assure it go from the best IL contest to a so so prob held in Ottawa with the same shit trophies given out at the mid IL. Congrats to all IL BBs. Shit MY next show has to be one JJ promotes.
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POWER 2 The PEOPLE!
Friday night weigh-in. Check!
New colored flyers. Check!
Online registration & payment. Comming soon.
You see... there is power in numbers. I get blamed for everything but at the end of the day I MADE THIS ALL POSSIBLE... BooYa!
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Should be a good show tomorrow! Lots of good competitors!!
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Do me a favor, John...
Tell "lilarnold" on the MD boards that I said he's a fking chump with his suck assing about USA Gym. Please?
Nothing wrong with liking the gym and it's atmosphere but enough with how welcoming and loving the people there are. Please!
They'd turn their back on you in a hot minute given the chance. They used to be cool with me to until they "suspected(blamed)" me for posting things on MD that insulted their idol. I can't even post there.
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Hello to all.
Well, since the NPC was so wrong in accusing us of going on the message boards and posting lies even though we had never been on the message boards, we might as well join everyone.
We are here to set some things straight.....
After four successful years, the NPC Continental USA was stripped from us and given to Jeff and Ann Johnson who say they might take it to Ottawa, IL (Same place as their Mid-IL).
We were granted a show by a good friend of ours, Ernest Bea who is the chairman of Iowa. We purchased the sanction for it and called it the USA Central Cup which was to be held in Des Moines, IA on June 26th. Not until after we purchased the sanctioning for the show was Ernest told by Jim Manion (NPC Pres.) that we have to live in that state to promote a show there and Chuck Sanow (Il chairman) refused to allow us to have a show in his state. So....after we had one show stripped from us for no just cause, we did not want to invest several thousands to get the new one running just to have it taken from us like the Continental.
BUT.....NO FRET!!!! We live and breathe the sport of bodybuilding! Can't take that out of us! We too are competitors and not just promoters! We know what you guys go through to try to win. And we know the politics and behind the scenes of bodybuilding. We are here to shed new light for you and give you another option. Right now, you only have just limited options. WE WILL OPEN UP ANOTHER DOOR FOR YOU.
2010 we, along with IFBB Pro Bodybuilder & CEO-Paul Dillett, will bring to you and the Untied States.....WBFF! (World Bodybuilding & Fitness Federation) This will be an organized event like you have never, ever seen before in the U.S. Google WBFF.com and see for yourself. Please support us and be a part of this U.S. ground-breaking change.
For updates or contacting us, log on to our facebook page. (Darlene Mayo)
We are and have always been for hard work and fairness. When you put in the hard work, you should be rewarded. Promoters are nothing without their competitors. Don't feel sorry for us losing the show....stand by us for a long awaited change. GO WBFF!!!
Respectfully,
Rob & Darlene Mayo
Promoters-WBFF
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Turns out...
JEALOUSY got the best of Chuck and his POSSE and the Forward Thinking Innovators known as The Mayo's, who will always be the TRUE masterminds behind the USA Continental, got 86'd.
Let me go back. I doubt Chuck even knew or cared about what was being said on the message boards. I am willing to bet my hairy pimply ass that his 'handlers' reiterated it all back to him and put poor and irresponsible information in his ear.
At the end of the day ' a bodybuilder is a bodybuilder is a bodybuilder '. What do we know about bodybuilders? They are flakey, gay and jealous.
It was clear that the Mighty Mavericks known as The Mayo's upstaged Chuck, Jeff and Kevin beyond what their minds could ever process and something had to be done.
It wasn't the Mayo's going on the forums letting their frustrations of stagnation, politics and lies being aired out for all to see. It was the competitors. The Mayo's never even been online since now.
It's buisness as usual in Illinois bodybuilding. The ONLY people who are glad about this are the 'Yes, sir's ' that surrounds Chuck. The villagers who claim that the Emperor is wearing clothes when clearly he is not.
This isn't over.
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Anybody here from back in the vintage days of the old Quads? The only reason I bring this up is I see the names Brian and Tim Smith mentioned. Last year I saw Tim and he was recovering from a knee surgery that went bad? I see Brian is still hammering away at the Masters Nationals. Whomever posted that he might be the least liked bodybuilder in Illinois is probably correct. Tim helped me a lot but Brian never gave anyone the time of day. Times were different back then and guys always helped each other out for the most part. I'll throw out some bodybuilder names and see if anyone remembers;
John Leriou
Jeff sorenson
Larry Bernstein
Henry
Pete Kutsugeras (dead..car crash)
I think Larry moved and went to work for Beverly International......that was a long time ago.
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You Know You're a Bodybuilder in Chicagoland If...
...if you buy most of your supplements from Orlando at Healthkick, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you switch XSport's every 2-6 months because the previous one had too much drama, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you categorize your friends and peers based on which XSport you go to, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
... if you ever gotten your heart broken by Joey Sergo, you might be a bodybuilder (figure/fitness) in Chicagoland.
...if you eat at Sally's after the shows at The Gateway and lament about what is wrong about the NPC in Illinois, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you slept with half the stage at any given show at any given time in Illinois, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you buy your gear locally then spread rumors that who you bought it from flips fake gear, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you have ever gotten screwed over on stage by someone who trains at USA Gym, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you hide out at different gyms and constantly change your cell phone number because you owe so many people money, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if charges of being a Peeping Tom haven been brought against you for drilling holes into tanning beds ceilings, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you or any member of your family or wife or girlfriend has ever been blatantly insulted by Ronnie Altieri, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you have a killer growth hormone connection by 'a friend of mine' who lives on North Halsted st. just past Addison, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you are a jaded cynical bald bitter asshole who spends too much time stuffing his obese fat body with burritos and McDoubles from McDonald's Dollar Menu and perpetually has a wad of Skoal wintergreen in his mouth, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if hired Dave Palumbo within 2008 & 2009 to 'do your diet', you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you plan on avoiding local NPC shows because you don't want to run into your EX, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you have a trophy for Figure, Bikini and Bodybuilding all within a 6 month time period, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you stepped on stage in the middle of your Second Trimester and still placed ahead of somebody els because you train at USA Gym, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you pick up contracts with supplement companies just as easy as you toss them away to out-wit your way into booth work at the 2010 Arnold Classic, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you really should be competing as a Heavyweight but always seem to enter your shows as a Superheavyweight, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you step out on stage looking 10 weeks out and not place then blame the "politics" for your demise, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you literally diet, tan, train harder, add in cardio, run some clen, carb deplete and carb load just to ATTEND a local NPC show, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if your version of 'Check Into Cash' is to collect hundreds of dollars from 3-4 different people because they want to get in on your overseas order all to tell them 3 weeks later that you got a 'seizure letter' as you pocket the cash to finance your trip to Columbus or to pay for your growth kits, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you think you have to go to USA Gym 2 weeks before your show to have Chuck ''check you out'' because you think it may "help you", you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you pee in empty Gatorade bottles that you normally use to spit your chew in as you sit in gridlock traffic on your way to Elston to meet up with Chris San Juan as he is 3 days out from Jr. Nationals, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you ever had your last name stitched on the back of a warm-up jacket after the word ' TEAM ' , you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you ever slept with Victor Martinez after the 2008 NPC USA Continental, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you have ever GIVEN a blow-job as payment for clenbuterol and anavar tablets in the parking lot of Lombard XSport, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you have ever RECIEVED a blow-job as payment for clenbuterol and anavar tablets in the parking lot of Lombard XSport, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you were ever told to carb-up with Snickers and Mountian Dew, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if your dating spectrum went from geriatric to pediatric, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if your " boyfriend " can execute your quater-turn Figure poses much better than you can, you must be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you have ever sharted your shorts at XSport-Bricktown and noticed the smell but not knew it was you, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you have ever broken up with your significant other over the last of the Crystal Lite, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you ever think you ever have a chance to ever go Pro without a single clue on how to network and market yourself, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you have ever gotten fired by Rick Lovestrand, you might be a bodybuilder from Chicagoland.
...if you can't ejaculate without a buff burly woman flexing her biceps, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you can't seem to ever get lean for a show and blame "trans fats" as the reason why, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you had ever gotten your Polish beer knocked over or stolen by Dolly Nordheimer at The Gateway because you need alcohol to get your fat ass through a bodybuilding show, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you give prostate massages while calling yourself the Kitty Kat, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if your tires were slashed at the 2009 NPC USA Continental, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if Jeff Johnson has ever told you to " get the fuck out of here! " , you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you religiously meet up at Arlington-South to train legs every Sabbath at 3pm with a quasi-Italian occult, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you have ever counted up alinshop clenbuterol at the Internet Cafe tables at Xsport, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you have ever hired George Farah to prep you for the same shows you fully intend to flake out of, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if have ever subjected an entire audience to the most flamboyantly gay version of a posing routine to Lady Gaga's Pokerface, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you ever pranked called Derek Anthony before, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you take Pride In Your Supplements, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you have ever given a blowjob to a married man as he touched up your Pro Tan in your hotel room, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you have ever been caught in a prostitution sting from Craigslist, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if Dexter Jackson invited you back to his hotel room after the 2006 Mid-Illinois Classic, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you feel that you are that special to where you think you need to compete out of state to " avoid the politics " , you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you still do not realize that insulin is purchase available over the counter without a prescription, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you look like Billy Corgan on steroids decked out in a 3X White-T and Air Force-1's , you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you look 6 weeks out everytime you step out on stage and blame it on " a fluid issue " , you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you think you and Jay Cutler are BFF's, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you ever hosted a " Pro Tan Party " , you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you have ever lied to your significant other about who Pro Tanned you, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you ever posed at your own show with a cloak and 5' albino boa constrictor around your neck, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you stopped talking to practically everybody at your gym(s) because of your insecure jealous boy/girlfriend made you do so, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you ran test propionate, winstrol and clenbuterol for the 2007 NPC Grand Prix show in Belvedere, Illinois and still didn't win your class, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you tore your tricep pumping up just before you are set to go out on stage, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if your wife caught wind that you had an account on FitSingles.com, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you have ever slept with your ' diet coach ' and still continue to pay him to tell you to have 1/4 cup of oatmeal with breakfast, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you step on stage at a national level show and none of the judges have ever heard of you or seen you before, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you somehow still managed to look sexy while staring at John Lathrop at the Indiana Sand Dunes, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you lie about how much you lift, how often you train, how much gear you use, how much money you make and who you have banged, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if your 'sponsor' is an overweight middle-aged man with no kids and has never been married and lives in boystown, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you made an acquaintence of yours drive across the city 3x's a week to give you your injections due to your fear of needles, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you dump vitamin B6 in a ziplock bag and pawn them off as Russian dbols, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you swear that you will never date another competitor for as long as you live but continuously do, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
...if you have perfected the art of burning bridges and making frienemies through the power of the pen and with too much time on his hands, you might be a bodybuilder in Chicagoland.
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Funny shit, block!!!
By the way, did you ever tell that one ho that I was coming to Chicago soon? lol ;)
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I use to compete in Illinois when a lot of the shows were in Rockford in the 80's. We got to meet some great Pros at the shows. Tim Belknap was from Rockford (i think)and I got to meet him several times. Lance Dreyher was from Chicago or close by. Some guest posers that came to the Chicagoland area (includes NW Indiana); Jeff King, Mike Matarazzo,Lee Haney,Porter Cottrell, Mike Quinn, Gary Leonard, Tony Pearson, Vince Taylor, Victor Richards, Tom Platz, Frank Zane etc. to name a few.
This was a strange transition time because the AAU and NPC were both running shows and we competed in both organizations. The AAU had height classes and the NPC had weight classes so you might be competing against different guys the following weekend. There was a guy running the Illinois shows that was a real prick. He layed down ground rules at the meeting and you were out if you broke one. He banned the "moon pose" where you show your hamstrings by bending over. Also there were guys that could do that rope pose with their abs. He banned that saying it was "sick". I believe he also would yell "10 seconds" near the end of your routine and then yell "TIME" (even louder)at the 90 second mark. I think he was head of the Illinois AAU (bodybuilding) in the 80's. Can't remember his name.