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Title: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: dknole on May 09, 2022, 12:30:35 PM
https://www.fda.gov/inspections-compliance-enforcement-and-criminal-investigations/warning-letters/ironmag-labs-622504-05042022?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

This letter concerns your products CBD Gummies, Ephedra Stack, Lean Fuel V2 and Stimulate, which are labeled as dietary supplements.

As explained further below, introducing or delivering these products for introduction into interstate commerce violates the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the FD&C Act) because the products are adulterated dietary supplements.

Based on our review of your website https://ironmaglabs.com and other relevant evidence, CBD Gummies, Ephedra Stack, Lean Fuel V2, and Stimulate are unapproved new drugs sold in violation of section 505(a) of the FD&C Act [21 U.S.C. § 355(a)]. Furthermore, your CBD-containing product is a misbranded drug under section 502(f)(1) of the FD&C Act [21 U.S.C. § 352(f)(1)]. As explained further below, introducing or delivering these unapproved and misbranded drugs for introduction into interstate commerce violates the FD&C Act. You can find the FD&C Act through links on FDA’s website at https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/laws-enforced-fda/federal-food-drug-and-cosmetic-act-fdc-act and the FDA regulations at https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-21.

Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Taffin on May 09, 2022, 12:32:09 PM
Oh shit! :o

(http://media.giphy.com/media/jivGITd768psP80B2i/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Skeletor on May 09, 2022, 12:34:14 PM
The new FDA commissioner.

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Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: BB on May 09, 2022, 12:51:16 PM
Not that big a deal. It's one of those fix your ads, and pull this, and we're good type things. They've been cracking down on supplement ads lately, Amazon made Palumbo pull some things recently, maybe they'll Species will draw the FDA's ire soon.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Rambone on May 09, 2022, 01:05:46 PM
The new FDA commissioner.

(https://yt3.ggpht.com/9unOR3jBa-ZC18VhDX4bmXmfPO5SOV0WcdhTYNifSa-O5cIHBnwCVbMGfvkamIJEulqXR3mfpg=s900-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj)

Can very easily be bribed with a Goodwill seersucker suit w/ minimal cigarette burns
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: deadz on May 09, 2022, 02:08:02 PM
The new FDA commissioner.

(https://yt3.ggpht.com/9unOR3jBa-ZC18VhDX4bmXmfPO5SOV0WcdhTYNifSa-O5cIHBnwCVbMGfvkamIJEulqXR3mfpg=s900-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj)
;D Just when Ironmagfag thought he won.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: joswift on May 09, 2022, 02:28:53 PM
The new FDA commissioner.

(https://yt3.ggpht.com/9unOR3jBa-ZC18VhDX4bmXmfPO5SOV0WcdhTYNifSa-O5cIHBnwCVbMGfvkamIJEulqXR3mfpg=s900-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj)

he did say he was getting a new job...
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 09, 2022, 02:34:14 PM
https://www.fda.gov/inspections-compliance-enforcement-and-criminal-investigations/warning-letters/ironmag-labs-622504-05042022?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery


I know and am happily reporting on it tonight on my youtube channel
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Rambone on May 09, 2022, 02:34:53 PM
Show me the bodies
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Taffin on May 09, 2022, 03:28:49 PM

I know and am happily reporting on it tonight on my youtube channel

Excellent!  In a teensy bit of irony, I just noticed the response needs to go to an FDA guy called... Aaron... yeah I know, common name, but still ;D

"Your written reply should be directed to Aaron Dotson, Compliance Officer"
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Ron on May 09, 2022, 03:56:58 PM


11 companies received 'warning' letters regarding special ingredients they have in their products.  Gives them all a chance to remove them from the market soon...

Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Gym-Rat on May 09, 2022, 04:12:52 PM
These letters are common and nothing (if you comply) Im sure Rob (IML) has been thru this many times.
Aaron (Redcon1) would have been fine if he just complied as well, rather than pull the shady shit that he and PJ did.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 09, 2022, 06:22:27 PM
The new FDA commissioner.

(https://yt3.ggpht.com/9unOR3jBa-ZC18VhDX4bmXmfPO5SOV0WcdhTYNifSa-O5cIHBnwCVbMGfvkamIJEulqXR3mfpg=s900-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj)


Oh hell…..   you win the internet for today.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: webstar on May 09, 2022, 06:38:01 PM
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Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Flexacon on May 09, 2022, 06:48:07 PM
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The one advantage of being fat and black. Goodrum has fewer wrinkles than men half his age
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 09, 2022, 06:53:58 PM
(https://yt3.ggpht.com/Tu5rLu_ZKbLTbBXdUIY07SzkD9JkeWmncxhYCyK9SdK6cBgHDFh3MulzhwFEq6ixBqz2mjSogPhMGjs=s640-c-fcrop64=1,000003b6fffffc49-nd-v1)

In depth thought....  needs a compass to find his way back.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: MCWAY on May 09, 2022, 07:30:18 PM
I've used supplements, on and off, for decades. I've NEVER had any brand with "adulterated" ingredients.

 ;D
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: beakdoctor on May 09, 2022, 07:37:09 PM
FDA couldn't get their story straight about the vax but Iron Mag labs is at the top of their priority list.

Federal agents should be busting down the doors of zpfizer, Moderna and 'Jansen.' But it's all a joke at this point.

Ironmag labs used to much alpha yohimbe so they got to pay the price.

What a fucking joke.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 09, 2022, 07:45:04 PM
Seems like it could be dodged simply by changing and editing the marketing words and claims.

Sort of Joe Weider's Anabolic MegaPaks were back in the day.  They got cracked down on because they were not "anabolic" and Weider had to change the marketing for them.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Dave D on May 09, 2022, 08:16:34 PM
FDA couldn't get their story straight about the vax but Iron Mag labs is at the top of their priority list.

Federal agents should be busting down the doors of zpfizer, Moderna and 'Jansen.' But it's all a joke at this point.

Ironmag labs used to much alpha yohimbe so they got to pay the price.

What a fucking joke.

Well said.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: AbrahamG on May 09, 2022, 09:21:49 PM
Can very easily be bribed with a Goodwill seersucker suit w/ minimal cigarette burns

Fucking dying here. Absolutely the post of the day!
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Dave D on May 09, 2022, 09:49:40 PM
Fucking dying here. Absolutely the post of the day!

X2
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 10, 2022, 12:10:52 AM
https://www.fda.gov/inspections-compliance-enforcement-and-criminal-investigations/warning-letters/ironmag-labs-622504-05042022?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

This letter concerns your products CBD Gummies, Ephedra Stack, Lean Fuel V2 and Stimulate, which are labeled as dietary supplements.

As explained further below, introducing or delivering these products for introduction into interstate commerce violates the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the FD&C Act) because the products are adulterated dietary supplements.

Based on our review of your website https://ironmaglabs.com and other relevant evidence, CBD Gummies, Ephedra Stack, Lean Fuel V2, and Stimulate are unapproved new drugs sold in violation of section 505(a) of the FD&C Act [21 U.S.C. § 355(a)]. Furthermore, your CBD-containing product is a misbranded drug under section 502(f)(1) of the FD&C Act [21 U.S.C. § 352(f)(1)]. As explained further below, introducing or delivering these unapproved and misbranded drugs for introduction into interstate commerce violates the FD&C Act. You can find the FD&C Act through links on FDA’s website at https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/laws-enforced-fda/federal-food-drug-and-cosmetic-act-fdc-act and the FDA regulations at https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-21.

As if we have never received an FDA warning letter before. At least get my company name right you moron.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 10, 2022, 12:12:35 AM
Oh you forgot to include the other 10 companies that received the same FDA warning letter today.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 10, 2022, 12:26:13 AM

I know and am happily reporting on it tonight on my youtube channel

Oh lord, and who besides you is going to watch it? lol
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: bhank on May 10, 2022, 12:35:14 AM
I've used supplements, on and off, for decades. I've NEVER had any brand with "adulterated" ingredients.

 ;D

Bullshit they told you it was expensive protein and it was mainly cheap maltodextrin
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Rambone on May 10, 2022, 05:24:35 AM
Oh lord, and who besides you is going to watch it? lol

I turned it off after 30 seconds. Without naming names, he said some people were saying your company was raided. Brutal attempt to justify a click-bait title. “Ironmag Labs raided by the feds?”  I wouldn’t expect anything less from GNN. You gotta do what you gotta do for ad revenue because lightly worn Van Heusen slacks with minimal fart hole damage ain’t cheap
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Taffin on May 10, 2022, 06:55:33 AM
I turned it off after 30 seconds. Without naming names, he said some people were saying your company was raided. Brutal attempt to justify a click-bait title. “Ironmag Labs raided by the feds?”  I wouldn’t expect anything less from GNN. You gotta do what you gotta do for ad revenue because lightly worn Van Heusen slacks with minimal fart hole damage ain’t cheap

I watched the whole thing - and now he's got a few subscribers, the comments section is picking up a bit

Raul Rodriguez
9 hours ago
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Leather Daddy Furrie Murray
1 hour ago
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chrisnole1
1 hour ago
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BTW Vince - I was listening on headphones so I shidded my pants when you shouted "NOTT!" ;D
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: MCWAY on May 10, 2022, 01:16:37 PM
Bullshit they told you it was expensive protein and it was mainly cheap maltodextrin

WRONG!! Any supplement I've taken with maltodextrin has that ingredient listed, usually first.

Plus, IronMan Labs ain't getting popped for maltodextrin. Besides, my little joke was about how I've never accidentally used any supplement "adulterated" with steroids or other performance-enhancing drugs.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2022, 08:18:02 AM
Plus, IronMan Labs ain't getting popped for maltodextrin. Besides, my little joke was about how I've never accidentally used any supplement "adulterated" with steroids or other performance-enhancing drugs.

The ingredients IronMag Labs and 10 other companies got warned about are hordenine and higenamine which are both herbal botanicals that we have used for 8+ years.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2022, 08:21:25 AM
and Vince you are a moron, Ephedra is not illegal and we did not get warned about selling it, nor is CBD you are just not allowed to call it a dietary supplement nor make any claims about it.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2022, 08:26:22 AM
And stay tuned I will be doing an interview for the first time ever with Jon Bravo revealing the truth about everything in regards to Aaron, PJ and Blackstone Labs. Since I was the one that hired those two clowns to work for me back in 2009 and I am the one that started Blackstone Labs I kinda know everything and it will finally be told. Maybe Vince can learn something too. lol
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Rambone on May 11, 2022, 08:27:25 AM
And stay tuned I will be doing an interview for the first time ever with Jon Bravo revealing the truth about everything in regards to Aaron, PJ and Blackstone Labs. Since I was the one that hired those two clowns to work for me back in 2009 and I am the one that started Blackstone Labs I kinda know everything and it will finally be told. Maybe Vince can learn something too. lol

Awesome!
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2022, 08:29:48 AM
Awesome!

It will be a long interview, not sure if it will be done in one part or multiple.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Gym-Rat on May 11, 2022, 08:38:42 AM
It will be a long interview, not sure if it will be done in one part or multiple.

"Whats going onnnnnnnnnnn everybody?!? Vince Goodrum here, it is FRI afternoon, just CHILLIN!"
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2022, 08:40:51 AM
"Whats going onnnnnnnnnnn everybody?!? Vince Goodrum here, it is FRI afternoon, just CHILLIN!"

He is so f'ing brain dead, he does not even possess basic 4th grade reading and comprehension skills.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: bhank on May 11, 2022, 08:44:54 AM
And stay tuned I will be doing an interview for the first time ever with Jon Bravo revealing the truth about everything in regards to Aaron, PJ and Blackstone Labs. Since I was the one that hired those two clowns to work for me back in 2009 and I am the one that started Blackstone Labs I kinda know everything and it will finally be told. Maybe Vince can learn something too. lol

Nobody cares just tell us what grey market supplements you can sell us now
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Gym-Rat on May 11, 2022, 08:49:14 AM
He is so f'ing brain dead, he does not even possess basic 4th grade reading and comprehension skills.

Rob "Dimagglio" ?? (Dah-Mag-Leo)

he can at least get your name correct...  :P
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: webstar on May 11, 2022, 08:52:18 AM
He is so f'ing brain dead, he does not even possess basic 4th grade reading and comprehension skills.

Lets not forget Vince shouting "NOT" like its 1994
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2022, 09:09:42 AM
Rob "Dimagglio" ?? (Dah-Mag-Leo)

he can at least get your name correct...  :P

and IronMan Labs  ::)
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2022, 09:10:38 AM
Nobody cares just tell us what grey market supplements you can sell us now

Thankfully the FDA is looking out for our health, lmao and anything that is anabolic is bad and evil.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2022, 09:16:37 AM
Vince, I know reading is not your strong suit so here ya go:

DiMaggio
duh · maa · zhee · ow

IronMag Labs
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Taffin on May 11, 2022, 09:20:55 AM
And stay tuned I will be doing an interview for the first time ever with Jon Bravo revealing the truth about everything in regards to Aaron, PJ and Blackstone Labs. Since I was the one that hired those two clowns to work for me back in 2009 and I am the one that started Blackstone Labs I kinda know everything and it will finally be told. Maybe Vince can learn something too. lol

Awesome!

Agreed (with a shameful semi-parsh if I'm honest)

What's your YouTube channel?  (asking for a friend)
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Taffin on May 11, 2022, 09:21:35 AM
Vince, I know reading is not your strong suit so here ya go:

DiMaggio
duh · maa · zhee · ow

IronMag Labs

Brutal

...

...

And true

Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2022, 09:23:24 AM

What's your YouTube channel?  (asking for a friend)

Not mine, it's Jon Bravo Films.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2022, 09:24:10 AM
And the only thing Vince is "great" at is getting everything wrong.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Gym-Rat on May 11, 2022, 09:33:10 AM
And the only thing Vince is "great" at is getting everything wrong.

people have been texting the great-one about this, piss-troopers are waiting for an update...
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2022, 09:36:12 AM
people have been texting the great-one about this, piss-troopers are waiting for an update...

oh yes I know, so many people message Vince and ask for his opinion on things. ;D
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2022, 09:40:36 AM
and just wait and watch, Vince will respond here by calling me a bunch of names and threatening me and my employees again. lol
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: GymnJuice on May 11, 2022, 09:57:23 AM
and just wait and watch, Vince will respond here by calling me a bunch of names and threatening me and my employees again. lol

I dunno bro. Somebody might enter you into the deadpool thread for calling out VVV  ;D
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: BB on May 11, 2022, 10:06:23 AM
and just wait and watch, Vince will respond here by calling me a bunch of names and threatening me and my employees again. lol

I dunno bro. Somebody might enter you into the deadpool thread for calling out VVV  ;D

Bizarro World Vissy casts a circle of protection around Rob and the Iron Mag crew, so mote it be -

(https://preview.redd.it/22u9nheyd9q41.jpg?auto=webp&s=a7c24128268c6ffabdc19ddeeca2e553db24c319).
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 11, 2022, 10:10:36 AM
Vince had a great opportunity to attain some credibility with channel audiences with a juicy story (or it could have sounded like a juicy story) that just fell into his lap.   Instead he niggered the whole thing up right from the start.

Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: BB on May 11, 2022, 10:22:11 AM
Instead he niggered the whole thing up right from the start.

:o.

Musical break -

https://no-cookie.kiwifarms.net/data/video/3217/3217850-d1675ba9911eb46f4fce92b918754858.mp4 .



Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2022, 10:51:03 AM
Instead he niggered the whole thing up right from the start.

LMFAO!
All he had to do was read or just go listen Rick Collins who was talking about it on Monday.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Skeletor on May 11, 2022, 10:57:08 AM
The ingredients IronMag Labs and 10 other companies got warned about are hordenine and higenamine which are both herbal botanicals that we have used for 8+ years.

Hordenine? Isn't this the same ingredient Vince raved about some years ago?

Apparantly, the preorder sales on Dynamik was nothing short of spectacular.  The biggest seller was Savage Roar which is likely due to having a whooping 50mg of Hordenine in it.  Kai's investment in this company at the current rate will be realized in about 4 months.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2022, 11:02:09 AM
Hordenine? Isn't this the same ingredient Vince raved about some years ago?

IDK but it's no more dangerous than caffeine or any other simulant.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Rambone on May 11, 2022, 01:02:59 PM
IDK but apparently after supplement companies using it for over a decade it's suddenly dangerous and illegal.

I’m going to sleep well tonight knowing my trustworthy government is only allowing niggardly amounts of supplements to be sold therefore keeping me and my unborn children safe……




*Vince voice* “NOT!”
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: deadz on May 11, 2022, 02:35:23 PM
FDA couldn't get their story straight about the vax but Iron Mag labs is at the top of their priority list.

Federal agents should be busting down the doors of zpfizer, Moderna and 'Jansen.' But it's all a joke at this point.

Ironmag labs used to much alpha yohimbe so they got to pay the price.

What a fucking joke.
X2 society today is laughable.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 11, 2022, 02:40:11 PM
Hordenine? Isn't this the same ingredient Vince raved about some years ago?


It is a great supplement...just illegal
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 11, 2022, 02:43:02 PM
Oh lord, and who besides you is going to watch it? lol


Geez, i said the same thing you just said.. every company gets warning letters...i got a few in my drawer for exercise and medical equipment ive sold...stop being so emotional and stop tricking people with the ephedra leaves
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 11, 2022, 02:47:19 PM
Vince had a great opportunity to attain some credibility with channel audiences with a juicy story (or it could have sounded like a juicy story) that just fell into his lap.   Instead he niggered the whole thing up right from the start.


It wasnt anything of importance as i said, honky.  Its an FDA letter
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 11, 2022, 03:05:59 PM
and Vince you are a moron, Ephedra is not illegal and we did not get warned about selling it, nor is CBD you are just not allowed to call it a dietary supplement nor make any claims about it.


I said you were full of shit for selling ephredra leaves....
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 11, 2022, 03:13:47 PM

It wasnt anything of importance as i said, honky.  Its an FDA letter

In your mind it was.... face it... it was a better opportunity than these dumb "Sponsored by" threads you make.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 11, 2022, 03:25:37 PM

I said you were full of shit for selling ephredra leaves....

I've talked about the ephedra leaves scam before. That is only included to trick the customer.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: deadz on May 11, 2022, 03:28:53 PM
I've talked about the ephedra leaves scam before. That is only included to trick the customer.
Called snake oil. Supplement company owners are scammers.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: michael arvilla on May 11, 2022, 08:30:35 PM
Watching now (nice to be able to put a face to the name!)
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2022, 10:17:38 PM
Called snake oil. Supplement company owners are scammers.

Really, I am a scammer? 17 years in business that is a lot of scamming. I wonder why I have so many loyal customers.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2022, 11:47:42 PM

I said you were full of shit for selling ephredra leaves....

honestly I have no idea what you said, the last thing I would waste my time doing is watching one of your videos, I just know from the shit you say here you have no clue what you are talking about.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2022, 11:49:05 PM

It wasnt anything of importance as i said, honky.  Its an FDA letter

FDA letters are very important, ask Aaron and PJ.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2022, 11:54:15 PM
Stay tuned to Jon Bravo's channel, there is much more to come and finally the truth will be revealed. I promise you will not want to miss what else I have to say.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 12, 2022, 09:36:03 AM
honestly I have no idea what you said, the last thing I would waste my time doing is watching one of your videos, I just know from the shit you say here you have no clue what you are talking about.


Then dont comment you dumb fuck...i was actually defending your silly ass for the most part.  But those ephedra leaves are bullshit and you know it
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Taffin on May 12, 2022, 09:54:56 AM
Watching now (nice to be able to put a face to the name!)

Holy Battle of the Hair Products, Batman!! ;D

(ps - thanks for posting the link - watching now)
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 12, 2022, 09:57:27 AM
FDA letters are very important, ask Aaron and PJ.


They did more than ignore FDA letters...but you know that already. From PJ Telling the FDA to go fuck themselves, hiding products, lying, etc.

But don't act like you had no part in it, you made money from the whole venture so you're no different than Aaron and PJ


I honestly dont know why you and the rest of your employees have been trashing me for like a decade but its only speaks of your character.  Is it not enough that you've made all this money that you gotta pull even nore shit
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 12, 2022, 10:02:13 AM
Really, I am a scammer? 17 years in business that is a lot of scamming. I wonder why I have so many loyal customers.

Why is there ephedra leaves in your product? Can you give a serious answer?
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 12, 2022, 10:06:41 AM
Why is there ephedra leaves in your product? Can you give a serious answer?


He's not going to give you a straight answer, he knows he's tricking uneducated people into this snake oil.  Thats what he does...he'll make some decent product and this have one along with some b.s. Hi Tech sued him in 2015
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: deadz on May 12, 2022, 10:19:04 AM
Really, I am a scammer? 17 years in business that is a lot of scamming. I wonder why I have so many loyal customers.
Only people buying your garbage is stupid kids. One day one of those stupid kids parents will sue you and you'll be done!
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: dknole on May 12, 2022, 10:22:41 AM
As if we have never received an FDA warning letter before. At least get my company name right you moron.

Hire Rick Collins sir, that is my advice.

Calling me a moron, while you have FDA issues and probably soon other civil issues (class action suits and more, as the plaintiff's counsel uses these types of 483 letters as basis for law suits.

Best of luck to you not burning too much on legal fees, product recalls and that whatnot. Hire Rick.

You are proud to have received prior FDA Warning Letters,  calling me a moron, hilarious to me.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Gym-Rat on May 12, 2022, 11:58:04 AM
He doesnt need to hire Collins. He does what is asked of him like he's always done, issue fixed.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: ThisisOverload on May 12, 2022, 12:30:17 PM
Lots of jealousy in this thread.

Rob has nice hair.

Get over it, fellas.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: AbrahamG on May 12, 2022, 04:51:38 PM
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The side of his fists even have fat rolls. 
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Rambone on May 12, 2022, 04:53:31 PM
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Distinguished

Black

Powerful

Entrepreneurial

Polarizing

Classy
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 13, 2022, 09:35:40 PM
Only people buying your garbage is stupid kids. One day one of those stupid kids parents will sue you and you'll be done!

lol okay dude.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 13, 2022, 09:38:28 PM
Hire Rick Collins sir, that is my advice.

Calling me a moron, while you have FDA issues and probably soon other civil issues (class action suits and more, as the plaintiff's counsel uses these types of 483 letters as basis for law suits.

Best of luck to you not burning too much on legal fees, product recalls and that whatnot. Hire Rick.

You are proud to have received prior FDA Warning Letters,  calling me a moron, hilarious to me.

Yes we need to hire a lawyer for an FDA warning letter. STFU you sound dumber than Vince.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Dave D on May 13, 2022, 10:00:07 PM

They did more than ignore FDA letters...but you know that already. From PJ Telling the FDA to go fuck themselves, hiding products, lying, etc.

But don't act like you had no part in it, you made money from the whole venture so you're no different than Aaron and PJ


I honestly dont know why you and the rest of your employees have been trashing me for like a decade but its only speaks of your character.  Is it not enough that you've made all this money that you gotta pull even nore shit

Vince Aaron and PJ continued to sell the products AFTER they were told not to. They could have been ignorant of the ingredients up until they were told they were illegal.

Rob is not guilty of doing what Aaron and PJ did.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 13, 2022, 10:27:52 PM
Lots of jealousy in this thread.

Rob has nice hair.

Get over it, fellas.

Exactly, story of my life.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 13, 2022, 10:29:42 PM
Vince Aaron and PJ continued to sell the products AFTER they were told not to. They could have been ignorant of the ingredients up until they were told they were illegal.

Rob is not guilty of doing what Aaron and PJ did.

Yes, and just wait for my next video. I was unable to talk for 3 years due to this pending case, the truth shall be told.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince B on May 13, 2022, 10:36:37 PM
Goodrum is a certified dumbass and forum buffoon! The nincompoop once claimed he had an IQ of 131. Clearly, he pulled that number out of his ass! Then he paid for an online PhD and boasted about doing a thesis for a second PhD degree. While some of the stuff he says might be amusing he has no respect for facts and honesty. In other words Goodrum is a complete asshole.

He is delusional in a monumental way because he debates people who are clearly superior to him. The clueless dick continues unaware of his own stupidity.

Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: AbrahamG on May 13, 2022, 10:52:51 PM
Goodrum is a certified dumbass and forum buffoon! The nincompoop once claimed he had an IQ of 131. Clearly, he pulled that number out of his ass! Then he paid for an online PhD and boasted about doing a thesis for a second PhD degree. While some of the stuff he says might be amusing he has no respect for facts and honesty. In other words Goodrum is a complete asshole.

He is delusional in a monumental way because he debates people who are clearly superior to him. The clueless dick continues unaware of his own stupidity.

Hell of a post Vinny Breezeway. Hell of a post.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 14, 2022, 08:59:33 AM
Goodrum is a certified dumbass and forum buffoon! The nincompoop once claimed he had an IQ of 131. Clearly, he pulled that number out of his ass! Then he paid for an online PhD and boasted about doing a thesis for a second PhD degree. While some of the stuff he says might be amusing he has no respect for facts and honesty. In other words Goodrum is a complete asshole.

He is delusional in a monumental way because he debates people who are clearly superior to him. The clueless dick continues unaware of his own stupidity.

LMFAO, very well said.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 14, 2022, 09:28:07 AM
Goodrum is a certified dumbass and forum buffoon! The nincompoop once claimed he had an IQ of 131. Clearly, he pulled that number out of his ass! Then he paid for an online PhD and boasted about doing a thesis for a second PhD degree. While some of the stuff he says might be amusing he has no respect for facts and honesty. In other words Goodrum is a complete asshole.

He is delusional in a monumental way because he debates people who are clearly superior to him. The clueless dick continues unaware of his own stupidity.


You're still alive???
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 14, 2022, 10:02:18 AM
Vince Aaron and PJ continued to sell the products AFTER they were told not to. They could have been ignorant of the ingredients up until they were told they were illegal.

Rob is not guilty of doing what Aaron and PJ did.


I'll acknowledge that he wasn't a moron to continue working with them considering all the stuff he did but he was technically still part of the scheme.   

Jon Bravo says he's a nice guy but honestly all Rob's ever given me was a headache and has used people like Greg Valentino, Christian Duque and others to attack me, accuse me of scamming customer, making videos about me on their Youtube pages talking shit.   Other than the most recent video, the last time I even made a video about you was 3 years in which then I SAID I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH YOU!!  Ironically, everything i said in the video 3 years ago has come to fruition.

The only reason I don't like you today is simply because you employ these people who have gone after me, especially that asswipe Christian Duque who will one day get his goofy ass knocked out given all the shit he's said about other people.   Otherwise, you wouldn't even hear so much as a peep from me about it.   I honestly don't care how you run your business so let me run my business.   

As far as you having a problem with me defending Aaron Singerman is ridiculous.  I gave him my word that I would have his back and that's what the fuck I did.   I'm fully aware of what Aaron and PJ has said about me over the years...even worse than what you've said....and even when I was defending Aaron.....I know about the "gullible dumb monkey that I don't have to even give a banana to dance for me" comments btw.   But I keep my promises to people and I'm not someone to break my word....period.   
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 14, 2022, 01:08:50 PM
Wow you kissed ass pretty hard if you know he said that and you still “got his back”
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 14, 2022, 03:05:26 PM

Wow, if I were to post anything of mine here you would report it to the mods and tell me all I do is spam this board.

You are such hypocrite and nobody cares about your videos, just look at the number of views you get. LMAO

And you do not know Aaron or PJ and certainly have never spoken to either of them.

Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 14, 2022, 03:09:05 PM






Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 14, 2022, 03:10:17 PM
just remember, they were my little employees before we started BSL, and now they are both sitting in prison for 4 years and I am sitting in my nice big house.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Taffin on May 14, 2022, 04:13:36 PM
just remember, they were my little employees before we started BSL, and now they are both sitting in prison for 4 years and I am sitting in my nice big house.

Oof!  Brutal

(And may I also join with the compliments on your hair - bit h0mo)
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Skeletor on May 14, 2022, 04:58:21 PM
just remember, they were my little employees before we started BSL, and now they are both sitting in prison for 4 years and I am sitting in my nice big house.

But they are also Vince's friends, he has Caliber Fitness and multiple other businesses and he is also sitting in his mobile home.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 14, 2022, 06:17:00 PM
Wow, if I were to post anything of mine here you would report it to the mods and tell me all I do is spam this board.

You are such hypocrite and nobody cares about your videos, just look at the number of views you get. LMAO

And you do not know Aaron or PJ and certainly have never spoken to either of them.


They let you have your website address as your user name so why would i go and tell them that you spam the thread???  The only thing i ever asked them to do is to change it to a normal username like everyone else.

But you're right, i spoken to both them before many times but i've never hung out with either one of them or worked for them or with them.  To me, you're all a bunch of snakes at this point.  You are one of the most disingenuous people ever, you are obsessed with money and you are a rubik cube of bullshit.   

Just tell me one thing Rob, what would do you if i was in your face one day...would you laugh, try to fight me, try to argue your points.  One thing you will face is the feds again.  They'll eventually nail you
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 14, 2022, 06:20:25 PM
just remember, they were my little employees before we started BSL, and now they are both sitting in prison for 4 years and I am sitting in my nice big house.

This is exactly what i mean.  You are gloating at their situation, made comments that Darrielle was going to find another man, etc.  You are unbelievable 

I feel sorry for you. 
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: AbrahamG on May 14, 2022, 08:23:12 PM
@Vince - after the things that smarmy fuck said about you you've got every right to introduce Darielle to your Kielbasa.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 14, 2022, 08:44:08 PM
This is exactly what i mean.  You are gloating at their situation, made comments that Darrielle was going to find another man, etc.  You are unbelievable 

I feel sorry for you. 

They put themselves in that situation, not me I had nothing to do with it. I sold my interest in BSL in early 2014 and even prior to that I was mostly a silent partner.
In my next videos I will discuss all of this in great detail and it will all be 100% factual, I have no reason to talk shit about them the way they did me for years.
No I said most marriages where the man goes to prison for 4+ years don't typically last, the woman moves on with her life. Since they have 3 kids together I honestly don't think she will, I think she will wait for him.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 14, 2022, 11:41:06 PM
but even when Aaon gets out of federal prison and is on parole for 5 years he then has to deal with his state level BUI and DUI, that could actually out him right back into state prison.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: epic is back on May 14, 2022, 11:54:41 PM
so strange

melvin is always quick to attack any supplement company

after he fails at everything


admitted himself on here he dealt roids at one point


ugly obese guy in a trailer pointing  fingers at successful people and piling on when they face problems

truely pathetic who relishes in the problems of others
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: epic is back on May 14, 2022, 11:59:07 PM

I said you were full of shit for selling ephredra leaves....

bee pollen modafacka!!!

Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 15, 2022, 05:15:10 AM
but even when Aaon gets out of federal prison and is on parole for 5 years he then has to deal with his state level BUI and DUI, that could actually out him right back into state prison.


No , he will at some point he'll plead guilty and he'll get time served.  The state will not waste the time doing it as long as he pays for all the damage.     
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Rambone on May 15, 2022, 05:43:48 AM
just remember, they were my little employees before we started BSL, and now they are both sitting in prison for 4 years and I am sitting in my nice big house.

 :D
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: deadz on May 15, 2022, 02:19:47 PM
lol okay dude.
Wait for it……
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: webstar on May 15, 2022, 03:36:33 PM

I'll acknowledge that he wasn't a moron to continue working with them considering all the stuff he did but he was technically still part of the scheme.   

Jon Bravo says he's a nice guy but honestly all Rob's ever given me was a headache and has used people like Greg Valentino, Christian Duque and others to attack me, accuse me of scamming customer, making videos about me on their Youtube pages talking shit.   Other than the most recent video, the last time I even made a video about you was 3 years in which then I SAID I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH YOU!!  Ironically, everything i said in the video 3 years ago has come to fruition.

The only reason I don't like you today is simply because you employ these people who have gone after me, especially that asswipe Christian Duque who will one day get his goofy ass knocked out given all the shit he's said about other people.   Otherwise, you wouldn't even hear so much as a peep from me about it.   I honestly don't care how you run your business so let me run my business.   

As far as you having a problem with me defending Aaron Singerman is ridiculous.  I gave him my word that I would have his back and that's what the fuck I did.   I'm fully aware of what Aaron and PJ has said about me over the years...even worse than what you've said....and even when I was defending Aaron.....I know about the "gullible dumb monkey that I don't have to even give a banana to dance for me" comments btw.   But I keep my promises to people and I'm not someone to break my word....period.

Vince,

Why aren’t you on Aaron’s email list?

Dave Paulumbo was.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Taffin on May 15, 2022, 05:06:06 PM
but even when Aaon gets out of federal prison and is on parole for 5 years he then has to deal with his state level BUI and DUI, that could actually out him right back into state prison.

 :D

Vince and Rob be like

(http://media.giphy.com/media/U5arllBP5CphMWnpoJ/giphy.gif)

 ;D
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 15, 2022, 05:10:52 PM
Vince,

Why aren’t you on Aaron’s email list?

Dave Paulumbo was.

Haven't asked yet.  He needs to get adjusted to prison life

Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 16, 2022, 05:22:00 PM
Vince, I found this video from 2012 just for you! No I am not spamming or advertising, I just thought it would be fun for people to watch.  ;D

Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: michael arvilla on May 16, 2022, 05:40:20 PM
Vince, I found this video from 2012 just for you! No I am not spamming or advertising, I just thought it would be fun for people to watch.  ;D


….No “ Iron Mag Labs” Bikinis???!!????!!??? :(
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 16, 2022, 06:20:17 PM
….No “ Iron Mag Labs” Bikinis???!!????!!??? :(

Our YouTube channel has over 10 years worth of videos.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2022, 06:21:44 PM
Haven't asked yet.  He needs to get adjusted to prison life

I bet Dave didn't ask.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Dave D on May 16, 2022, 06:26:25 PM
Vince, I found this video from 2012 just for you! No I am not spamming or advertising, I just thought it would be fun for people to watch.  ;D



Cool video!

What is the name of the protein sauce and cheese used in this?
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: BB on May 16, 2022, 06:28:28 PM
Dear Singerman, I wrote you but still ain't callin'
I left my cell, my email, and my mobile home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not've got 'em
There probably was a problem at the prison post office or somethin'
Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot 'em
But anyways, fuck it, what's been up? Man, how's Redcon1?
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: AbrahamG on May 16, 2022, 06:57:51 PM
Vince, I found this video from 2012 just for you! No I am not spamming or advertising, I just thought it would be fun for people to watch.  ;D



I'd like to feed her a polish calzone. 
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 16, 2022, 07:48:36 PM
Dear Singerman, I wrote you but still ain't callin'
I left my cell, my email, and my mobile home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not've got 'em
There probably was a problem at the prison post office or somethin'
Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot 'em
But anyways, fuck it, what's been up? Man, how's Redcon1?

LMAO  ;D
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 16, 2022, 08:58:50 PM
I'd like to feed her a polish calzone. 

be careful Vince is her bodyguard.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 16, 2022, 09:00:34 PM
one of my favs!

Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: SF1900 on May 17, 2022, 12:15:03 AM
But they are also Vince's friends, he has Caliber Fitness and multiple other businesses and he is also sitting in his mobile home.

Dr. Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO, PhD, has over 200 online businesses.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: SF1900 on May 17, 2022, 12:16:42 AM

They let you have your website address as your user name so why would i go and tell them that you spam the thread???  The only thing i ever asked them to do is to change it to a normal username like everyone else.

But you're right, i spoken to both them before many times but i've never hung out with either one of them or worked for them or with them.  To me, you're all a bunch of snakes at this point.  You are one of the most disingenuous people ever, you are obsessed with money and you are a rubik cube of bullshit.   

Just tell me one thing Rob, what would do you if i was in your face one day...would you laugh, try to fight me, try to argue your points.  One thing you will face is the feds again.  They'll eventually nail you

Vince, you have tried to make it sound like you are best friends with PJ and Aron, yet you have never hung out with them lol
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 17, 2022, 01:33:26 AM
Vince, you have tried to make it sound like you are best friends with PJ and Aron, yet you have never hung out with them lol

he has never even spoken to them let alone hung out with them.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 17, 2022, 01:38:19 AM
👉 https://www.ironmagazine.com/2022/owner-of-ironmag-labs-finally-breaks-his-silence/
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: SF1900 on May 17, 2022, 02:34:11 PM

I'll acknowledge that he wasn't a moron to continue working with them considering all the stuff he did but he was technically still part of the scheme.   

Jon Bravo says he's a nice guy but honestly all Rob's ever given me was a headache and has used people like Greg Valentino, Christian Duque and others to attack me, accuse me of scamming customer, making videos about me on their Youtube pages talking shit.   Other than the most recent video, the last time I even made a video about you was 3 years in which then I SAID I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH YOU!!  Ironically, everything i said in the video 3 years ago has come to fruition.

The only reason I don't like you today is simply because you employ these people who have gone after me, especially that asswipe Christian Duque who will one day get his goofy ass knocked out given all the shit he's said about other people.   Otherwise, you wouldn't even hear so much as a peep from me about it.   I honestly don't care how you run your business so let me run my business.   

As far as you having a problem with me defending Aaron Singerman is ridiculous.  I gave him my word that I would have his back and that's what the fuck I did.   I'm fully aware of what Aaron and PJ has said about me over the years...even worse than what you've said....and even when I was defending Aaron.....I know about the "gullible dumb monkey that I don't have to even give a banana to dance for me" comments btw.   But I keep my promises to people and I'm not someone to break my word....period.

This is so sad. Your desire and longing to be known in the fitness industry is so severe that you will let people make fun of you and still stick around just so you have the small chance of being known. Then, you try to hide it behind some secret allegiance as "I am not someone to break my word." It's a lame excuse to keep giving to people who despise you in the hopes of being recognized in the fitness industry.

Vince, be better than this.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: AbrahamG on May 17, 2022, 05:14:42 PM
This is so sad. Your desire and longing to be known in the fitness industry is so severe that you will let people make fun of you and still stick around just so you have the small chance of being known. Then, you try to hide it behind some secret allegiance as "I am not someone to break my word." It's a lame excuse to keep giving to people who despise you in the hopes of being recognized in the fitness industry.

Vince, be better than this.

The second they called Melvincenzo a monkey, all bets should have been off.  The fact that he still sucks up to them puts him in the "uncle" category!
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 18, 2022, 12:57:42 AM
This is so sad. Your desire and longing to be known in the fitness industry is so severe that you will let people make fun of you and still stick around just so you have the small chance of being known. Then, you try to hide it behind some secret allegiance as "I am not someone to break my word." It's a lame excuse to keep giving to people who despise you in the hopes of being recognized in the fitness industry.

Vince, be better than this.

Vince makes so many accusations yet he can never provide proof of anything. lol
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Gym-Rat on May 18, 2022, 01:38:09 AM
This is so sad. Your desire and longing to be known in the fitness industry is so severe that you will let people make fun of you and still stick around just so you have the small chance of being known. Then, you try to hide it behind some secret allegiance as "I am not someone to break my word." It's a lame excuse to keep giving to people who despise you in the hopes of being recognized in the fitness industry.

Vince, be better than this.

If there's anyone who knows tons about fitness, its Vince G, LMNOP...

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Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 18, 2022, 07:16:53 AM
This is so sad. Your desire and longing to be known in the fitness industry is so severe that you will let people make fun of you and still stick around just so you have the small chance of being known. Then, you try to hide it behind some secret allegiance as "I am not someone to break my word." It's a lame excuse to keep giving to people who despise you in the hopes of being recognized in the fitness industry.

Vince, be better than this.

Lot of truth here.

And then passes off the excuse of "letting him get settled in prison" for a reason of why his BFF isn't emailing him regularly, or at all.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: webstar on May 18, 2022, 07:19:08 AM
Lot of truth here.

And then passes off the excuse of "letting him get settled in prison" for a reason of why his BFF isn't emailing him regularly, or at all.

Exactly, Dave Paulumbo was emailing Aaron fairly quickly.

Vince, is still still waiting for Aaron to get "settled"
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 18, 2022, 07:23:43 AM
Exactly, Dave Paulumbo was emailing Aaron fairly quickly.

Vince, is still still waiting for Aaron to get "settled"


No, i said he needs to get adjusted to prison life.  I have no interest in getting on his mailing list.  Dimaggio is right about me not knowing Aaron and PJ well but he is wrong about me not knowing them at all
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 18, 2022, 07:24:29 AM
The second they called Melvincenzo a monkey, all bets should have been off.  The fact that he still sucks up to them puts him in the "uncle" category!


No, i just found out recently....and now im going to get revenge
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: webstar on May 18, 2022, 07:27:51 AM

No, i said he needs to get adjusted to prison life.  I have no interest in getting on his mailing list.  Dimaggio is right about me not knowing Aaron and PJ well but he is wrong about me not knowing them at all

But, you said you are his friend and will defend his honor.. or in your words have his back.. wouldn't you want to stay in touch?
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 18, 2022, 07:28:51 AM
But, you said you are his friend and will defend his honor.. or in your words have his back.. wouldn't you want to stay in touch?


Read what i just wrote previously. 
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 18, 2022, 07:42:52 AM

No, i just found out recently....and now im going to get revenge

So you are going to commit a crime, make sure you get sent to the exact prison they are in, and then....?   WHAT?

Or did you mean you was going to give them the "Whats going onnnnnnnnnnn everybody?!?" youtube burn?   ::)

I don't know what is laughable?  Any revenge plan you come up with or the fact everyone here knew about what they said except for you until now.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: AbrahamG on May 18, 2022, 12:57:57 PM

No, i just found out recently....and now im going to get revenge

Good. I hope you plan on banging his wife. Make her choke on that Kielbasa.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 18, 2022, 07:52:10 PM
Dimaggio is right about me not knowing Aaron and PJ well but he is wrong about me not knowing them at all

Finally, thank u for spelling my name correctly.  :)
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 18, 2022, 07:53:10 PM
Good. I hope you plan on banging his wife. Make her choke on that Kielbasa.

LMAO, her snatch has to be a big black hole after popping out 3 kids. (that's just a joke Vince)

I actually always liked her, she was super nice to me, btw did you know I went to their wedding?
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: michael arvilla on May 18, 2022, 08:16:09 PM
When does the other video come out? (Talking about PJ and Aaron) and is it on Jon Bravos channel?
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 18, 2022, 08:20:18 PM
When does the other video come out? (Talking about PJ and Aaron) and is it on Jon Bravos channel?

Jon Bravo and I have decided we are going to do a series of many videos, each one will be a short chunk of history starting from 2009 up til present.

And trust me you will not want to miss these, not sure how many I am thinking 20+ videos and maybe 1 or 2 per week if I have time, but at least 1 video weekly.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: michael arvilla on May 18, 2022, 08:29:49 PM
Jon Bravo and I have decided we are going to do a series of many videos, each one will be a short chunk of history starting from 2009 up til present.

And trust me you will not want to miss these, not sure how many I am thinking 20+ videos and maybe 1 or 2 per week if I have time, but at least 1 video weekly.
ok
Sounds good thx!
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Skeletor on May 18, 2022, 08:42:14 PM
Jon Bravo and I have decided we are going to do a series of many videos, each one will be a short chunk of history starting from 2009 up til present.

And trust me you will not want to miss these, not sure how many I am thinking 20+ videos and maybe 1 or 2 per week if I have time, but at least 1 video weekly.

Will Vince do a response to each video?
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Dave D on May 18, 2022, 09:19:00 PM
Jon Bravo and I have decided we are going to do a series of many videos, each one will be a short chunk of history starting from 2009 up til present.

And trust me you will not want to miss these, not sure how many I am thinking 20+ videos and maybe 1 or 2 per week if I have time, but at least 1 video weekly.

Please Post the PJ and Aaron video when it is ready.

I’ll get the cliff notes on the other videos.

Thank you
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 18, 2022, 09:31:47 PM
Will Vince do a response to each video?

You have to ask???
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 19, 2022, 10:05:33 AM
Will Vince do a response to each video?

Only if Dimaggio calls out my name on something i need to refute or if one of his employers.  Otherwise, i dont care what he does.

 Defending someone to only find out that i was considered a dancing monkey is something thats more irritating and that i must deal with.  I will make the rivers run red with blood when i get done
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Taffin on May 19, 2022, 10:09:50 AM
The second they called Melvincenzo a monkey, all bets should have been off.  The fact that he still sucks up to them puts him in the "uncle" category!

Hold on!  When/where was this outrage..!?!? >:(


Good. I hope you plan on banging his wife. Make her choke on that Kielbasa.

Ooh!  Dibs on me peeping out of the closet cracking one off to that please!

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Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Dave D on May 19, 2022, 10:23:01 AM
Only if Dimaggio calls out my name on something i need to refute or if one of his employers.  Otherwise, i dont care what he does.

 Defending someone to only find out that i was considered a dancing monkey is something thats more irritating and that i must deal with.  I will make the rivers run red with blood when i get done

Vince what if these were old feelings? Maybe the considered you a stooge but not any longer.

In all actuality they may have had a point, you were on Aaron’s side no matter what was said. You continually came to his defense no matter what was said over the years, no questions asked.

Dancing monkey is an old term, all it means is someone takes directions and does what they are told. There are no racist connotations associated with it.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: GymnJuice on May 19, 2022, 10:44:42 AM
Vince what if these were old feelings? Maybe the considered you a stooge but not any longer.

In all actuality they may have had a point, you were on Aaron’s side no matter what was said. You continually came to his defense no matter what was said over the years, no questions asked.

Dancing monkey is an old term, all it means is someone takes directions and does what they are told. There are no racist connotations associated with it.

I agree. No reason for you to get tangled up in that tar baby.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 19, 2022, 10:58:59 AM
Only if Dimaggio calls out my name on something i need to refute or if one of his employers.  Otherwise, i dont care what he does.

Defending someone to only find out that i was considered a dancing monkey is something thats more irritating and that i must deal with.  I will make the rivers run red with blood when i get done

and how are you going to do that?   ::)
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: webstar on May 19, 2022, 11:05:29 AM
LMAO, her snatch has to be a big black hole after popping out 3 kids. (that's just a joke Vince)

I actually always liked her, she was super nice to me, btw did you know I went to their wedding?

Vince, is just waiting on his invitation it should be arriving shortly
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Skeletor on May 19, 2022, 11:11:36 AM
Only if Dimaggio calls out my name on something i need to refute or if one of his employers.  Otherwise, i dont care what he does.

 Defending someone to only find out that i was considered a dancing monkey is something thats more irritating and that i must deal with.  I will make the rivers run red with blood when i get done

That sounds very ominous Vince, do you have a plan?
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 19, 2022, 07:39:50 PM
Please Post the PJ and Aaron video when it is ready.

I’ll get the cliff notes on the other videos.

Thank you

It will not be one video, each video will be around 15-20 minutes and one event, sorry you have no attention span, but you should watch them all you might learn something.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 19, 2022, 07:41:21 PM
Only if Dimaggio calls out my name on something i need to refute or if one of his employers.  Otherwise, i dont care what he does.

 Defending someone to only find out that i was considered a dancing monkey is something thats more irritating and that i must deal with.  I will make the rivers run red with blood when i get done

Why in the hell would I talk about you? You are nobody in this industry, never were and never will be. You are a delusional fool.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 20, 2022, 07:25:21 AM
Why in the hell would I talk about you? You are nobody in this industry, never were and never will be. You are a delusional fool.


For a nobody on the industry, you have videos about me on your Ironfaglabs youtube channel along with you babbling on this forum...which by the way gets less traffic than my youtube channel despite having 5 times the subscribers and being around mych longer

 In any event , nothing that you put out there is going to change what people think about you....they are going to lump you in with Aaron and PJ as a snake bastard.    The only reason, im going easy on you is because of Jon Bravo...he says you're a nice guy and while i think otherwise, i'm not going to mess things up with you or him.  But make no mistake, its best if you stay on the orthodox side of me because im a southpaw
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Dave D on May 20, 2022, 07:27:57 AM
I agree. No reason for you to get tangled up in that tar baby.

Lol
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince B on May 20, 2022, 07:28:09 AM

For a nobody on the industry, you have videos about me on your Ironfaglabs youtube channel along with you babbling on this forum...which by the way gets less traffic than my youtube channel despite having 5 times the subscribers and being around mych longer

 In any event , nothing that you put out there is going to change what people think about you....they are going to lump you in with Aaron and PJ as a snake bastard.    The only reason, im going easy on you is because of Jon Bravo...he says you're a nice guy and while i think otherwise, i'm not going to mess things up with you or him.  But make no mistake, its best if you stay on the orthodox side of me because im a southpaw

Spoken like the true low life that you are. Pure filt.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 20, 2022, 07:29:53 AM
Spoken like the true low life that you are. Pure filt.

Fuck you and die  already you old decrepit bastard. 
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Dave D on May 20, 2022, 07:37:10 AM
It will not be one video, each video will be around 15-20 minutes and one event, sorry you have no attention span, but you should watch them all you might learn something.

If you’re willing to bring me on and teach me like you did PJ and Aaron, I’ll watch and study these videos.

If you’re going to do multiple 20 minute videos talking about the industry and how corrupt it is and how you’ve had to navigate these corrupt business practices and one of the few good guys trying to clean it up, I’ll pass.

*That said you do have interesting stories and I’m glad you share them and post here.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: webstar on May 20, 2022, 07:46:03 AM

For a nobody on the industry, you have videos about me on your Ironfaglabs youtube channel along with you babbling on this forum...which by the way gets less traffic than my youtube channel despite having 5 times the subscribers and being around mych longer

 In any event , nothing that you put out there is going to change what people think about you....they are going to lump you in with Aaron and PJ as a snake bastard.    The only reason, im going easy on you is because of Jon Bravo...he says you're a nice guy and while i think otherwise, i'm not going to mess things up with you or him.  But make no mistake, its best if you stay on the orthodox side of me because im a southpaw

Vince would you consider your self a somebody in the industry?

Or would you be considered a nobody as well?
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 20, 2022, 08:35:39 AM
Vince would you consider your self a somebody in the industry?

Or would you be considered a nobody as well?


If you work in the bodybuilding industry,  you're a somebody.  I can honestly say that i'm one of the more well known people but it has no relevance because there's a shitload of different personalities roaming around.  The vast majority of my facebook friends are in bodybuilding or work in the industry.

At the end of the day, it helps pay the bills no differently then Palumbo, Ron Harris, Bravo, etc.  Its a job. Its one that i do part-time because the telecommunications industry is more lucrative for me along with having things like a 401k, health and dental, etc.  Dimaggio thinks importance is equal to the amount of money made but its just another example of how out of touch he is.  Wealthy and arrogant only goes so far..
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: webstar on May 20, 2022, 11:01:08 AM

If you work in the bodybuilding industry,  you're a somebody. I can honestly say that i'm one of the more well known people but it has no relevance because there's a shitload of different personalities roaming around.  The vast majority of my facebook friends are in bodybuilding or work in the industry.

At the end of the day, it helps pay the bills no differently then Palumbo, Ron Harris, Bravo, etc.  Its a job. Its one that i do part-time because the telecommunications industry is more lucrative for me along with having things like a 401k, health and dental, etc.  Dimaggio thinks importance is equal to the amount of money made but its just another example of how out of touch he is.  Wealthy and arrogant only goes so far..

 out of curiosity how do you gauge this? Aside from being the whipping boy/ prop on Rx muscle years ago. Who else in the industry would invite you on say a pod cast or ask for your intel?

Understand you have a busy schedule and can not be bothered with a podcast..

Has Fouad, Greg Douche, Dave Tate reached out to you to bring you on their show?
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 20, 2022, 01:54:29 PM
out of curiosity how do you gauge this? Aside from being the whipping boy/ prop on Rx muscle years ago. Who else in the industry would invite you on say a pod cast or ask for your intel?

Understand you have a busy schedule and can not be bothered with a podcast..

Has Fouad, Greg Douche, Dave Tate reached out to you to bring you on their show?


I used to have a podcast but ive been on MuscleSportTV quite often And i'll be on RX Muscle in the near future.  Dont forget that not to long ago i debated Vegan Gains live on his channel. Generation Iron wrote a long winded article about me.  MD had the posedown with Billy Guns. 

But honestly being known doesnt pay the bills, i'd rather make money from the industry
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Taffin on May 20, 2022, 02:50:29 PM

I used to have a podcast but ive been on MuscleSportTV quite often And i'll be on RX Muscle in the near future.  Dont forget that not to long ago i debated Vegan Gains live on his channel. Generation Iron wrote a long winded article about me.  MD had the posedown with Billy Guns. 

But honestly being known doesnt pay the bills, i'd rather make money from the industry

And the YouTube thing is starting to pick up a little momentum the last few weeks - credit where credit is due 8)
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 20, 2022, 09:09:53 PM
And the YouTube thing is starting to pick up a little momentum the last few weeks - credit where credit is due 8)


I did notice and the channel directly is making about 300 a month.  Part of it was also finally using my domain vincegoodrum.com as well alrhough i intend to redo it and indead to add things like t-shirts , equipment supplements , etc
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 20, 2022, 10:56:24 PM
If you’re willing to bring me on and teach me like you did PJ and Aaron, I’ll watch and study these videos.

If you’re going to do multiple 20 minute videos talking about the industry and how corrupt it is and how you’ve had to navigate these corrupt business practices and one of the few good guys trying to clean it up, I’ll pass.

*That said you do have interesting stories and I’m glad you share them and post here.

The videos are going to be exclusively about me, Aaron, PJ and Blackstone Labs from 2010 up until present. How many times do I need to repeat myself?
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 20, 2022, 10:58:46 PM

I used to have a podcast but ive been on MuscleSportTV quite often And i'll be on RX Muscle in the near future.  Dont forget that not to long ago i debated Vegan Gains live on his channel. Generation Iron wrote a long winded article about me.  MD had the posedown with Billy Guns. 

But honestly being known doesnt pay the bills, i'd rather make money from the industry

MuscleSportTV? LMAO What a joke you belong on that channel along with the other dipshit who runs it.

I will make sure you never appear on Rxmuscle, not that Dave would be that stupid to begin with.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 20, 2022, 10:59:32 PM

I did notice and the channel directly is making about 300 a month.  Part of it was also finally using my domain vincegoodrum.com as well alrhough i intend to redo it and indead to add things like t-shirts , equipment supplements , etc

Wow, slow down man that is big money!
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 20, 2022, 11:00:28 PM

For a nobody on the industry, you have videos about me on your Ironfaglabs youtube channel along with you babbling on this forum...

post a link please because if there is I will ensure it is deleted asap. lol
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 20, 2022, 11:03:12 PM
Vince = the village idiot and he does not even know it.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 21, 2022, 07:21:22 AM
post a link please because if there is I will ensure it is deleted asap. lol

You dont keep up with your employees.  Christian Duwue has a made a bunch more videos with your IronMagLab advertising in tow.  But thanks for getting rid of it



Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Dave D on May 21, 2022, 07:25:26 AM
The videos are going to be exclusively about me, Aaron, PJ and Blackstone Labs from 2010 up until present. How many times do I need to repeat myself?

A
I’d appreciate as many times as it takes so I understand what these videos are about.
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 21, 2022, 07:28:51 AM
Wow, slow down man that is big money!

Its Youtube and getting paid to do the same thing i do on Getbig works for me and im using the money for building other websites and paying for Google and Facebook ads including starting back up Anabolic Mayhem which made your IronMagazine site look like it was designed with a potato.  I can do a lot of things with 300 dollars,  bozo. 

But you seem to care a lot about a nobody's affairs
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 21, 2022, 09:25:56 AM
You dont keep up with your employees.  Christian Duwue has a made a bunch more videos with your IronMagLab advertising in tow.  But thanks for getting rid of it


Did you watch that video? Gregg Valentino saying that you're retarded and he feels bad for you!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: FDA goes after IronMan Labs (and others) for adulterated ingredients
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 21, 2022, 09:27:44 AM
But you seem to care a lot about a nobody's affairs

Only my own.