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Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« on: January 18, 2022, 08:36:29 AM »
theres a weird guy running around the web, promoting his books "vinces secret fart-locker"
some routines are decent enough
his 'bench-press to the neck' is flat-out dumb though
as is "barbell drag curls" "dumbbell kickbacks" (can be replaced)
workout structure seems ok

https://liftvault.com/programs/bodybuilding/vince-gironda-8x8-6x6-workout-routine-spreadsheets/

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2022, 08:39:58 AM »

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2022, 08:41:06 AM »
theres a weird guy running around the web, promoting his books "vinces secret fart-locker"
some routines are decent enough
his 'bench-press to the neck' is flat-out dumb though
as is "barbell drag curls" "dumbbell kickbacks" (can be replaced)
workout structure seems ok

https://liftvault.com/programs/bodybuilding/vince-gironda-8x8-6x6-workout-routine-spreadsheets/
he was a character..db kick backs were probably a staple he used for the ladies or actresses he trained lol...i tried bench to neck on the smith on and off for yrs its tough on shoulders and if you go to heavy your fukked...if you stay light on it say a 45 per side on a smith backend of workout it might be worth the try..

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2022, 08:44:06 AM »
Dumbbell kickbacks are not a bad exercise for the triceps after you've done your heavy pressing.

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2022, 09:05:01 AM »
Dumbbell kickbacks are not a bad exercise for the triceps after you've done your heavy pressing.

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2022, 09:26:34 AM »
Bench to neck will crush your upper chest . If you have shoulder problems its not for you . Also need to keep the reps in the 10 to 12 range .

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2022, 09:42:07 AM »

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2022, 09:46:36 AM »
Dumbbell kickbacks are not a bad exercise for the triceps after you've done your heavy pressing.

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2022, 10:02:51 AM »

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2022, 10:32:00 AM »
We had a Gym Rat before on GB. But I think this one should be ignored...... >:(

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2022, 10:43:58 AM »
We had a Gym Rat before on GB. But I think this one should be ignored...... >:(

i had to reset my acct good dr.

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2022, 10:56:09 AM »
Gironda had a lot of great programs and ideas. Hollywood actors trained with him for a reason.

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2022, 11:48:24 AM »
Gironda had a lot of great programs and ideas. Hollywood actors trained with him for a reason.

He did
just like all people he also had a few bonehead ones
no squats, bench to neck, etc
a jm press to the neck is ok maybe thats what he meant
but with flared elbows, not good for shoulders
vince was off his rocker but so are most bodybuilders

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2022, 10:44:25 AM »
He did
just like all people he also had a few bonehead ones
no squats, bench to neck, etc
a jm press to the neck is ok maybe thats what he meant
but with flared elbows, not good for shoulders
vince was off his rocker but so are most bodybuilders
No weighted back squats so that his bodybuilders didn't build a big ass.

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2022, 11:02:16 AM »
I have to say band kickbacks feel absolutely amazing and and give a massive pump at end of workout. I love them. Dumbbell kickbacks not so much, gotta have constant tension.

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2022, 11:16:10 AM »
I have to say band kickbacks feel absolutely amazing and and give a massive pump at end of workout. I love them. Dumbbell kickbacks not so much, gotta have constant tension.

Wouldn’t mind giving those a try. Did db kickbacks for the first time in a while at the end of my triceps workout and hate that lack of tension during the negative. Cables feel good, but I’ll try the band. Thanks, iron brother

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2022, 11:21:58 AM »
No weighted back squats so that his bodybuilders didn't build a big ass.

I get it
he didnt take kindly to fat-asses (like arnold)

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2022, 11:28:00 AM »
I get it
he didnt take kindly to fat-asses (like arnold)

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2022, 12:52:01 PM »
I get it
he didnt take kindly to fat-asses (like arnold)
Do you work?

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2022, 02:10:21 PM »
Don’t knock tricep kickbacks  >:( >:(

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2022, 04:07:01 PM »
We had a Gym Rat before on GB. But I think this one should be ignored...... >:(

Definitely do not confuse the original (me) with any of the other knock-offs.  ;D

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2022, 06:42:43 PM »


Look at those grins...They can't keep a straight face.

Sorry, brother.  I could not resist  because that picture video clip was just too freakin' funny!  Thanks!

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2022, 08:42:06 PM »
The guy was way ahead of his time, specifically in regards to nutrition.

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Re: Vince Gironda 8×8 + 6×6
« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2022, 10:46:16 AM »
I've used 6x6, 8x8 and 10x10 over the years that Gironda suggested. Though 10x10 may not be an original concept by him, it had been used before by others. I call that Square Root training. Some Olympic/PL'er use 3x3, though not Vince related.  Most always gotten good results.

All pretty much one exercise per body part, same weight the whole time. Remembering that it's the amount of rep's preforms in a total exercise period, not the sets. 8x8=64 reps, 6x6=36 reps, etc. Also a good pace is important. 60 seconds or less between sets. Can be SS'ed  (opposite muscle groups), in some cases.

If new to 8x8 & 10 x 10 it may  take a lot of mental adjustments when going through that kind of training, it can be demanding mentally as well as physically. . Not so much the 6x6 or even 5x5 (Bill Star)

Gironda favored "V" bar dips over BB benches.  Testing with different hand positions, even the knee position. .. That bench to the upper chest/neck was a lighter bar movement, with almost a collar to collar grip. This is when a good spotter is of prime importance. Gironda was going for that pec delt tie in. Larry Scott a good example.
 
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