BICEPS INFERNO !!!!!

[JackTheRipper]

 

[Kwon_2]

[affeman]

Most people have no clue what "muscle failure" means, have never experienced it or anything even close to muscle failure

[Wiggs]

Fuck yeah Tom!
This is training!
Forced reps, isometric holds on positive and negative, rest/pause.
I love it!  99% of people don't do this. Which is why they look the same year after year.

[Wiggs]

Most people have no clue what "muscle failure" means, have never experienced it or anything even close to muscle failure

100%! They are PUSSIES!

[Fortress]

Tom, and The Barbarian Brothers, is my original inspiration, but sadly he’s taken this whole schtick of his way too far.

It’s become cartoonish.

The initial “coolness” of it has become idiotic.

Fact is, without considerable juicing, just recovering from his practices, in a reasonable amount of time, is basically impossible.

And that’s the best case scenario.

When I was 19 in 1989, this all seemed heroic and exciting.

Now it is goofy as fuck.

[falco]

Most people have no clue what "muscle failure" means, have never experienced it or anything even close to muscle failure

Tom forgot the baby reps.

[Wiggs]

Tom, and The Barbarian Brothers, is my original inspiration, but sadly he’s taken this whole schtick of his way too far.

It’s become cartoonish.

The initial “coolness” of it has become idiotic.

Fact is, without considerable juicing, just recovering from his practices, in a reasonable amount of time, is basically impossible.

And that’s the best case scenario.

When I was 19 in 1989, this all seemed heroic and exciting.

Now it is goofy as fuck.

The only thing that's changed, is your perception. It's still just as effective. If  you give your body enough rest, and proper nutrition even as a natty or clean, this is still safe and effective.

What's a reasonable amount of time? Mentzer said 4 days and even up to 7. If one can get the same results going to the gym 1/2 - 1/4th of the time, why not? Unless you just like going to the gym to fill a social void.

[affeman]

Tom, and The Barbarian Brothers, is my original inspiration, but sadly he’s taken this whole schtick of his way too far.

It’s become cartoonish.

The initial “coolness” of it has become idiotic.

Fact is, without considerable juicing, just recovering from his practices, in a reasonable amount of time, is basically impossible.

And that’s the best case scenario.

When I was 19 in 1989, this all seemed heroic and exciting.

Now it is goofy as fuck.

STFU; u gotta hold on something in life

[Rusty Trombone]

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[IroNat]

Fuck yeah Tom!
This is training!
Forced reps, isometric holds on positive and negative, rest/pause.
I love it!  99% of people don't do this take huge amounts of drugs. Which is why they look the same year after year.

[Cook]

Tom, and The Barbarian Brothers, is my original inspiration, but sadly he’s taken this whole schtick of his way too far.

It’s become cartoonish.

The initial “coolness” of it has become idiotic.

Fact is, without considerable juicing, just recovering from his practices, in a reasonable amount of time, is basically impossible.

And that’s the best case scenario.

When I was 19 in 1989, this all seemed heroic and exciting.

Now it is goofy as fuck.

Didn’t you do an article about training with Platz at Gold’s? I remember it well as I was young and had dreams of greatness. (hoping I have my apostrophe’s in the correct places)

[oldschoolfan]

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Bwa ha ha

[Gym Rat]

YOU WANT SOME BRO??

[The Scott]

The only thing that's changed, is your perception. It's still just as effective. If  you give your body enough rest, and proper nutrition even as a natty or clean, this is still safe and effective.

What's a reasonable amount of time? Mentzer said 4 days and even up to 7. If one can get the same results going to the gym 1/2 - 1/4th of the time, why not? Unless you just like going to the gym to fill a social void.

Without a shit-ton of stayroids you are going to go nowhere.  I have trained as Mentzer outlined in his final book and it is far too much without the recuperative aid that is stayroids.  And that's the truth about the heat! LOL!

[bhank]

Dude has no arm development and is curling 45lbs with both arms acting like it is heavy screaming like a fool and people are watching them yell at each other as he struggles to cheat curl 45lbs fucking nonsense

[Wiggs]

Without a shit-ton of stayroids you are going to go nowhere.  I have trained as Mentzer outlined in his final book and it is far too much without the recuperative aid that is stayroids.  And that's the truth about the heat! LOL!

One of Mike's examples I really like is exercise tolerance is on a genetic spectrum just like height, skin color, and intelligence. I'll go even further and say so is recovery from same exercise. So while that may not have worked for you, it has worked for me and many others....clean. no drugs. Even at 43. In an untrained state if I went into the gym using these methods as I've done in the past. I know how to put on size and strength quickly due to muscle memory. The fastest way without toiling away in the gym like it's a prison sentence is HIT. It has never failed me.

There's too much anecdotal evidence that proves it works on natties/clean and enhanced. It's not question if it works at this point.

[IroNat]

One of Mike's examples I really like is exercise tolerance is on a genetic spectrum just like height, skin color, and intelligence. I'll go even further and say so is recovery from same exercise. So while that may not have worked for you, it has worked for me and many others....clean. no drugs. Even at 43. In an untrained state if I went into the gym using these methods as I've done in the past. I know how to put on size and strength quickly due to muscle memory. The fastest way without toiling away in the gym like it's a prison sentence is HIT. It has never failed me.

There's too much anecdotal evidence that proves it works on natties/clean and enhanced. It's not question if it works at this point.

[The Scott]

One of Mike's examples I really like is exercise tolerance is on a genetic spectrum just like height, skin color, and intelligence. I'll go even further and say so is recovery from same exercise. So while that may not have worked for you, it has worked for me and many others....clean. no drugs. Even at 43. In an untrained state if I went into the gym using these methods as I've done in the past. I know how to put on size and strength quickly due to muscle memory. The fastest way without toiling away in the gym like it's a prison sentence is HIT. It has never failed me.

There's too much anecdotal evidence that proves it works on natties/clean and enhanced. It's not question if it works at this point.

Then I am glad it works for you.  I know that when I took it verbatim as Mike said to do, I could not recover and began to decline.  I tried, believe me but it depleted me like nothing before or since.  Have fun with it!

[joswift]

anyone who thinks screaming and shouting helps you stress a muscle more that without just needs to sit on the sofa and scream and shout for a few minutes to see how much effort you actually expend doing it.

Then you will be able to realise that shutting the fuck up will allow you to put that additional energy into working the muscle.

[bhank]

anyone who thinks screaming and shouting helps you stress a muscle more that without just needs to sit on the sofa and scream and shout for a few minutes to see how much effort you actually expend doing it.

Then you will be able to realise that shutting the fuck up will allow you to put that additional energy into working the muscle.

Going to actually agree on this one

[Cook]

Going to actually agree on this one

[Wiggs]

Then I am glad it works for you.  I know that when I took it verbatim as Mike said to do, I could not recover and began to decline.  I tried, believe me but it depleted me like nothing before or since.  Have fun with it!

To be fair Scott, when I was a personal trainer, I had many older clientele. I wouldn't dare use this on 72 year old Mrs. Jones. I'd have gotten fired or personally sued. Lol

I had IT guys that had never seen the inside of a gym I wouldn't use this on either. Why? They'd never come back. Even if effective.

[The Scott]

To be fair Scott, when I was a personal trainer, I had many older clientele. I wouldn't dare use this on 72 year old Mrs. Jones. I'd have gotten fired or personally sued. Lol

I had IT guys that had never seen the inside of a gym I wouldn't use this on either. Why? They'd never come back. Even if effective.

I had a friend at work that asked to train with me.  It was shoulders and arms using a 2.5" bar.  He never came back.  He told me that it was too much.  My son only trained once with me and he said pretty much the same thing.  He said he would gladly spot me or assist me on forced reps but never again would he train that way, especially with me. 

Yup.  I stopped because I just could not recover from it in a reasonable amount of time. I think (my memory sucks) that the last time I did train genuine H.I.T. it took me about 11 days before I could train again.

[Hulkotron]

Tom is the original Gym Idiot.