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Title: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 16, 2023, 10:14:11 PM
I know it's early. 

I don't believe Haley has a snowball's chance.  It is a two-horse race for the GOP nomination:  Trump or DeSantis.  I initially thought DeSantis had no chance.  Now I'm not so sure.
 
Poll: Trump Leads Crowded GOP Primary Field in South Carolina
NICK GILBERTSON
15 Feb 20236

Former President Donald Trump leads former Gov. Nikki Haley (R-SC) and his other potential Republican primary opponents in South Carolina, the second GOP primary state in the nation, according to a poll.

Trump has the support of 35.1 percent of South Carolina Republican primary voters sampled in a Neighborhood Research and Media poll released Wednesday, giving him a double-digit lead.

. . .
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/02/15/poll-trump-leads-crowded-gop-primary-field-in-south-carolina/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 17, 2023, 01:28:35 AM
The more people who enter the race increases Trump's chances.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on February 17, 2023, 06:10:07 AM
Wish Trump, HRC, Biden, Pelosi, and all the other old politicians would just retire.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 17, 2023, 06:23:27 AM
Obviously some of the ones entering are just looking for attention or future admin positions.  Haley, Chris, Pence, Scott, Cruz, Pompeo, etc.  they will just "blip and dip" on the election radar and that's it.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: funk51 on February 17, 2023, 06:28:45 AM
Wish Trump, HRC, Biden, Pelosi, and all the other old politicians would just retire.
   
&t=85s    that's what I'm talking ABOUT. none of these people are even going to be around in 10 years, yet they're  deciding the future for better or worse for future generations.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 20, 2023, 07:51:08 PM
Wish Trump, HRC, Biden, Pelosi, and all the other old politicians would just retire.

I agree.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 20, 2023, 07:54:41 PM
Obviously some of the ones entering are just looking for attention or future admin positions.  Haley, Chris, Pence, Scott, Cruz, Pompeo, etc.  they will just "blip and dip" on the election radar and that's it.

The Democrats sure have a strong bench:

Kamala Harris
Bernie Sanders
Gavin Newsome
Mayor Pete
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 20, 2023, 07:55:59 PM
RNC weighs requiring loyalty pledge from every 2024 GOP candidate to support eventual Republican nominee
Trump and some potential 2024 Republican presidential contenders have signaled they might not back the eventual GOP nominee
By Paul Steinhauser | Fox NewsPublished
February 18, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rnc-weighs-requiring-loyalty-pledge-every-2024-gop-candidate-support-eventual-republican-nominee
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 21, 2023, 01:21:03 AM
RNC weighs requiring loyalty pledge from every 2024 GOP candidate to support eventual Republican nominee
Trump and some potential 2024 Republican presidential contenders have signaled they might not back the eventual GOP nominee
By Paul Steinhauser | Fox NewsPublished
February 18, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rnc-weighs-requiring-loyalty-pledge-every-2024-gop-candidate-support-eventual-republican-nominee
We already know Trump won't make that pledge.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 21, 2023, 05:18:06 AM
The Democrats sure have a strong bench:

Kamala Harris
Bernie Sanders
Gavin Newsome
Mayor Pete

Being the incumbent, they don't have to have a strong field.  Historically, the sitting party never really fields strong candidates for a POTUS reelection year.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 21, 2023, 05:18:46 AM
We already know Trump won't make that pledge.

Didn't he hint/threaten at a doing a third party run if he were not the candidate for the GOP?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 21, 2023, 01:20:00 PM
We already know Trump won't make that pledge.

I doubt he will. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 21, 2023, 01:21:46 PM
Being the incumbent, they don't have to have a strong field.  Historically, the sitting party never really fields strong candidates for a POTUS reelection year.

The incumbent has never been this old or mentally incompetent.  Even Democrats don't want Biden to run.  Same old story.  Democrats never liked him, even when had his mental faculties. 

But the fact is the Democrat bench is awful.  Good luck with Kamala Harris. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 21, 2023, 02:33:27 PM
DeSantis should just announce Tulsi as his running mate and smash the field. Then, let me smash Tulsi.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 21, 2023, 02:43:06 PM
Trump needs to tone down his attacks on those are or may run against him and won’t fly this time. He pissed me off when he started attacking DeSantis. Totally uncalled for
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on February 21, 2023, 02:44:13 PM
DeSantis should just announce Tulsi as his running mate and smash the field. Then, let me smash Tulsi.

Have thought this for awhile.

Except the you smashing part.

DeSantis could pick Gabbard as a VP and throw everything into a tizzy.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 21, 2023, 04:07:26 PM
The incumbent has never been this old or mentally incompetent.  Even Democrats don't want Biden to run.  Same old story.  Democrats never liked him, even when had his mental faculties. 

But the fact is the Democrat bench is awful.  Good luck with Kamala Harris.

Many Repubs didn't want Trumpy to run in 2020.  But he did with little to no opposition. 

The GOP is even far more awful. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 21, 2023, 04:53:53 PM
DeSantis should just announce Tulsi as his running mate and smash the field. Then, let me smash Tulsi.

Intriguing.  (Not the smash part lol.) 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 21, 2023, 04:55:11 PM
Many Repubs didn't want Trumpy to run in 2020.  But he did with little to no opposition. 

The GOP is even far more awful.

If you think DeSantis, Pompeo, Tim Scott, etc. are "far more awful" than Kamala Harris, Hillary, Gavin Newsome, and Mayor Pete then you need to put the crack pipe down. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on February 21, 2023, 06:38:26 PM
And Vivek Ramaswamy just threw his hat in the ring.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 22, 2023, 12:40:23 AM
DeSantis should just announce Tulsi as his running mate and smash the field. Then, let me smash Tulsi.
Smash Tulsi's tushy?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 22, 2023, 02:48:03 PM
'Woke, Inc.' author Vivek Ramaswamy enters White House race

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/lC7VL_5Pmq5mI2ow45Dz8Q--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTY0MDtjZj13ZWJw/https://s.yimg.com/os/creatr-uploaded-images/2023-02/1270e220-b2a1-11ed-aff3-0ac3c0534da2)

Vivek Ramaswamy, a wealthy biotech entrepreneur and investor and the author of “Woke, Inc.,” has entered the Republican race for president.

In a video released Tuesday night, Ramaswamy, 37, formally launched his longshot bid by decrying what he called a “national identity crisis” that he claims is driven by a left-wing ideology that has replaced “faith, patriotism and hard work” with “new secular religions like COVID-ism, climate-ism and gender ideology."

“We have obsessed so much over our diversity and our difference that we forgot all the ways we’re really just the same as Americans," he says.

In a Wall Street Journal editorial published at the same time, he pledged to repeal civil service protections for federal workers if he wins, as well as work to eliminate affirmative action, including directing the Justice Department to prosecute “illegal race-based preferences."

Born in Ohio, Ramaswamy, the son of Indian immigrants, founded a biotechnology company before becoming the partner of a hedge fund. He is the author of the books “Woke, Inc.” and “Nation of Victims" and gained stature in conservative circles for his criticism of the environmental, social and corporate governance movement that aims to promote socially responsible investing.

Ramaswamy enters what is expected to be a crowded Republican field that already includes former President Donald Trump and his former ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/woke-inc-author-vivek-ramaswamy-024004297.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 22, 2023, 09:15:23 PM
Biden may not run — and top Dems are quietly preparing
The president no longer seems absolutely certain to go for a second term, leaving the party, his top aides and potential candidates unsure about '24 and very quietly mulling plan B.
By CHRISTOPHER CADELAGO, JONATHAN LEMIRE, ELI STOKOLS, HOLLY OTTERBEIN and ELENA SCHNEIDER
02/22/2023
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/22/bidenworld-joe-may-not-run-2024-00083905
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 22, 2023, 09:18:18 PM
Back to the Basement, Joe? Biden Reportedly Wants 2024 Campaign HQ in His Wilmington Home
By Mike Miller
February 21, 2023
https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2023/02/21/back-to-the-basement-joe-biden-reportedly-wants-2024-campaign-hq-in-his-wilmington-home-n706636
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 22, 2023, 09:43:17 PM
Democratic support for Biden in 2024 rises while Republicans grow skeptical of Trump: poll
Donald Trump launched his 2024 White House campaign in November; President Biden has yet to announce a re-election bid
By Andrew Murray , Paul Steinhauser
Published February 22, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-support-biden-2024-rises-republicans-grow-skeptical-trump-poll
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on February 22, 2023, 10:47:36 PM
Being the incumbent, they don't have to have a strong field.  Historically, the sitting party never really fields strong candidates for a POTUS reelection year.

The Democratic party is not the incumbent president - Biden is.  There is no passing of the torch to Harris, Newsom, Buttigieg, or another without a primary.

Though I look more forward to the Republican primary, I will delight in a possible (and I hope likely) Democratic primary.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 23, 2023, 09:05:50 AM
The Democratic party is not the incumbent president - Biden is.  There is no passing of the torch to Harris, Newsom, Buttigieg, or another without a primary.

Though I look more forward to the Republican primary, I will delight in a possible (and I hope likely) Democratic primary.

Not sure what you are getting at here as this is pretty much what I said.  The incumbent rarely sees challengers from his own party during a reelection year.  While there may be some, it hardly ever results in a primary. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 27, 2023, 04:23:45 PM
Paul Ryan Will Skip Republican National Convention if Trump Wins Primary 
WENDELL HUSEBØ
25 Feb 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2023/02/25/paul-ryan-will-skip-republican-national-convention-if-trump-wins-primary/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 27, 2023, 04:39:20 PM
First GOP Presidential Primary Debate To Take Place In Milwaukee
RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel said the debate’s criteria had not been decided yet.
By Shruti Rajkumar
Feb 23, 2023
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rnc-primary-presidential-debate-2024-election_n_63f7fd9ce4b0a1ee14992fda
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 03, 2023, 01:32:33 PM
I hope he runs.

Florida Governor DeSantis To Visit Iowa Next Week, Ahead Of Expected 2024 Announcement
Mike Jenkins March 2, 2023
https://www.tampafp.com/florida-governor-desantis-to-visit-iowa-next-week/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 04, 2023, 01:29:08 AM
Paul Ryan Will Skip Republican National Convention if Trump Wins Primary 
WENDELL HUSEBØ
25 Feb 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2023/02/25/paul-ryan-will-skip-republican-national-convention-if-trump-wins-primary/
Oh no! They should just cancel the whole thing if Paul won't go. ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 04, 2023, 02:21:59 PM
Trump needs to tone down his attacks on those are or may run against him and won’t fly this time. He pissed me off when he started attacking DeSantis. Totally uncalled for

Sooner or later, he pisses everybody off... even The Scott.  ;) The guy never knew how or when to keep his mouth shut. Most of the scandals are his own doing.

Trump is scheduled to go to trial in April for allegedly raping the journalist E. Jean Carroll in a high-end Manhattan department store in the 1990s. Trump’s lawyers are trying to keep that jury from hearing him boast about sexual harassment, “when you’re a star, they let you do it… you can do anything… grab 'em by the pussy”. This is a great example of something he should never have said.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 04, 2023, 02:34:17 PM
And Vivek Ramaswamy just threw his hat in the ring.

Vivek might think about changing his last name. Can you imagine a President Ramaswamy. The U.S. is a melting pot, no argument about this. His parents emigrated from Vadakkencherry, Palakkad, Kerala, India. Being as how he is a U.S. citizen, he meets that qualification. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 22, 2023, 10:35:52 PM
Trump Jumps To 28-Point Lead Over DeSantis As MAGA Rallies For 45
View Source | March 21, 2023
https://www.offthepress.com/trump-jumps-to-28-point-lead-over-desantis-as-maga-rallies-for-45/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 22, 2023, 11:15:04 PM
Trump Jumps To 28-Point Lead Over DeSantis As MAGA Rallies For 45
View Source | March 21, 2023
https://www.offthepress.com/trump-jumps-to-28-point-lead-over-desantis-as-maga-rallies-for-45/


That's surprising to me. Wouldn't have suspected such a lead. Good for Trump
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2023, 02:08:26 PM

That's surprising to me. Wouldn't have suspected such a lead. Good for Trump

Nothing surprising about it.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2023, 02:09:28 PM
I prefer DeSantis, but I cannot see him or anyone else beating Trump in the primary. 

Trump surges to biggest 2024 lead yet, two times over DeSantis
by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist |
March 21, 2023
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/trump-surges-to-biggest-2024-lead-yet-2x-over-desantis
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2023, 02:18:59 PM
DeSantis privately acknowledges he will run for president in 2024: report
By Victor Nava
March 10, 2023
https://nypost.com/2023/03/10/desantis-privately-acknowledges-he-will-run-for-president-in-2024-report/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on March 23, 2023, 04:13:57 PM
I prefer DeSantis, but I cannot see him or anyone else beating Trump in the primary. 

Trump surges to biggest 2024 lead yet, two times over DeSantis
by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist |
March 21, 2023
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/trump-surges-to-biggest-2024-lead-yet-2x-over-desantis

No disagreement but an observation: Giuliani was leading in the polls throughout 2007, then crashed and burned by December.

As a former president, Trump has advantages (and disadvantages) other candidate don't have, but his lead could vaporize even before the primaries.

This is gonna be an interesting year. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2023, 04:40:22 PM
No disagreement but an observation: Giuliani was leading in the polls throughout 2007, then crashed and burned by December.

As a former president, Trump has advantages (and disadvantages) other candidate don't have, but his lead could vaporize even before the primaries.

This is gonna be an interesting year.

Yes I agree there is precedent where candidates were frontrunners and wound up losing.  I just think Trump is in a category all by himself.  The normal rules and analysis do not apply to him. 

And the thing that really bothers me is I think Biden can beat Trump again in 2024.  But I think DeSantis would beat Biden. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 23, 2023, 07:47:56 PM
Yes I agree there is precedent where candidates were frontrunners and wound up losing.  I just think Trump is in a category all by himself.  The normal rules and analysis do not apply to him. 

And the thing that really bothers me is I think Biden can beat Trump again in 2024.  But I think DeSantis would beat Biden.

I'll go out on a limb here. Just my view, but typically, most Americans don't get so involved in politics that they storm the capital. Most don't even get involved to the point they buy a hat, t shirt, put flags on their pickup trucks. MOST just go to work, watch an ocassional news story, have an idea of which party they will vote for and go on with their lives. Which is one reason the "Look how many people showed up to Trumps rallies verses Bidens rallies" didn't hold water with me. Almost all the people I know personally ,voted, I don't know anyone who attended a rally, but they were worked up enough to make sure they voted. So I suspect Trumps supporters are more vocal, more outspoken and more visible than Desantes supporters, but I think by the primarires, Desantes will beat Trump. I never respond to calls from politcal pollsters. I suspect most normal people don't. Trumpsters do... and it may give a false picture. Just my opinion
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on March 23, 2023, 08:09:50 PM
I'll go out on a limb here. Just my view, but typically, most Americans don't get so involved in politics that they storm the capital. Most don't even get involved to the point they buy a hat, t shirt, put flags on their pickup trucks. MOST just go to work, watch an ocassional news story, have an idea of which party they will vote for and go on with their lives. Which is one reason the "Look how many people showed up to Trumps rallies verses Bidens rallies" didn't hold water with me. Almost all the people I know personally ,voted, I don't know anyone who attended a rally, but they were worked up enough to make sure they voted. So I suspect Trumps supporters are more vocal, more outspoken and more visible than Desantes supporters, but I think by the primarires, Desantes will beat Trump. I never respond to calls from politcal pollsters. I suspect most normal people don't. Trumpsters do... and it may give a false picture. Just my opinion

A friend of mine was stuck in traffic because of folks showing up at a Trump rally in 2015.  He couldn’t believe it, and neither could I at the time.  I was recovering from injuries in the summer and fall, so I didn’t pay much attention until late 2015.  The man can draw a crowd.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 23, 2023, 08:18:05 PM
A friend of mine was stuck in traffic because of folks showing up at a Trump rally in 2015.  He couldn’t believe it, and neither could I at the time.  I was recovering from injuries in the summer and fall, so I didn’t pay much attention until late 2015.  The man can draw a crowd.

No doubt. He is hugely entertaining even for me. After a lifetime of seeing polished speeches from professional politicians it was unique to see someone just get up there and wing it. Say what is on their minds, facts and feelings be damned. And he connected with a lot of people while running for his 1st term. He sold himself as anti establishment and he was going to get things done etc... Strong message.
But by his second term run, a lot of those people were wary of the "seat of the pants" management style and temper. Of course he has a solid 35% base that will vote for him come hell or high water.. but enough moderate republicans, independents etc were wary enough that it lended to him losing the election. But I'll admit, if he's giving a televised speech, for me it's like hearing screeching brakes at an intersection, I can't help but watch.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 24, 2023, 12:51:42 PM
I'll go out on a limb here. Just my view, but typically, most Americans don't get so involved in politics that they storm the capital. Most don't even get involved to the point they buy a hat, t shirt, put flags on their pickup trucks. MOST just go to work, watch an ocassional news story, have an idea of which party they will vote for and go on with their lives. Which is one reason the "Look how many people showed up to Trumps rallies verses Bidens rallies" didn't hold water with me. Almost all the people I know personally ,voted, I don't know anyone who attended a rally, but they were worked up enough to make sure they voted. So I suspect Trumps supporters are more vocal, more outspoken and more visible than Desantes supporters, but I think by the primarires, Desantes will beat Trump. I never respond to calls from politcal pollsters. I suspect most normal people don't. Trumpsters do... and it may give a false picture. Just my opinion

The Trump rallies definitely measured voter enthusiasm in 2016, which was directly related to voter turnout.  They were massive.  So I disagree that his rallies were not at least partly predictive of the outcome. 

The only thing that changed in 2020 was Covid. 

I'm not seeing a scenario where DeSantis beats Trump.  We've already seen the establishment get behind a candidate (Jeb Bush) and Trump killed him.  DeSantis is no Jeb Bush, but I don't think the big money getting behind DeSantis will lead to a different outcome.  Trump's support in the GOP is just too strong. 

I went through a running analysis of the numbers in 2016 showing that the majority of GOP voters did not support Trump during the primaries, and he still won. 

There are a lot of talking heads trying to speak it into existence, but I will believe it when I see it.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: The Scott on March 24, 2023, 03:21:44 PM
The Trump rallies definitely measured voter enthusiasm in 2016, which was directly related to voter turnout.  They were massive.  So I disagree that his rallies were not at least partly predictive of the outcome. 

The only thing that changed in 2020 was Covid. 

I'm not seeing a scenario where DeSantis beats Trump.  We've already seen the establishment get behind a candidate (Jeb Bush) and Trump killed him.  DeSantis is no Jeb Bush, but I don't think the big money getting behind DeSantis will lead to a different outcome.  Trump's support in the GOP is just too strong. 

I went through a running analysis of the numbers in 2016 showing that the majority of GOP voters did not support Trump during the primaries, and he still won. 

There are a lot of talking heads trying to speak it into existence, but I will believe it when I see it.

Now, more than ever, real Americans HATE the Democratic Party and know they stole the 2020 election by falsification and electronic means.  The filth that posts otherwise knows their pets are coming for them.  Filthy, foul, fetid pedophile supporters.  That is the Democratic party and its voters.  Especially so the outright racist pigs the disparage black people just for being black here and the proof is in LNM's posting of  his thoughts on them.  He's a genuine Democrat.  Clueless to what really goes in and in that is the truth of why Trump is hated by them and all usurpers of Civilization.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 24, 2023, 03:39:35 PM
Now, more than ever, real Americans HATE the Democratic Party and know they stole the 2020 election by falsification and electronic means.  The filth that posts otherwise knows their pets are coming for them.  Filthy, foul, fetid pedophile supporters.  That is the Democratic party and its voters.  Especially so the outright racist pigs the disparage black people just for being black here and the proof is in LNM's posting of  his thoughts on them.  He's a genuine Democrat.  Clueless to what really goes in and in that is the truth of why Trump is hated by them and all usurpers of Civilization.

I don't know how to really analyze the races anymore.  I would have never predicted that Joe Biden would get elected.  Even Democrats repeatedly rejected him.  Yet here he is, literally causing the death of American service members, crashing the economy, surrendering the border, repeatedly lying, etc.  And he could very well be reelected. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 24, 2023, 03:41:19 PM
A friend of mine was stuck in traffic because of folks showing up at a Trump rally in 2015.  He couldn’t believe it, and neither could I at the time.  I was recovering from injuries in the summer and fall, so I didn’t pay much attention until late 2015.  The man can could draw a crowd.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 24, 2023, 08:07:15 PM
The Trump rallies definitely measured voter enthusiasm in 2016, which was directly related to voter turnout.  They were massive.  So I disagree that his rallies were not at least partly predictive of the outcome. 

The only thing that changed in 2020 was Covid. 

I'm not seeing a scenario where DeSantis beats Trump.  We've already seen the establishment get behind a candidate (Jeb Bush) and Trump killed him.  DeSantis is no Jeb Bush, but I don't think the big money getting behind DeSantis will lead to a different outcome.  Trump's support in the GOP is just too strong. 

I went through a running analysis of the numbers in 2016 showing that the majority of GOP voters did not support Trump during the primaries, and he still won. 

There are a lot of talking heads trying to speak it into existence, but I will believe it when I see it.

You're a reasonable guy and I tend to enjoy your posts, whether we see eye to eye on things. So in a spirit of fun, lets design a bet that's easily determined... For example, I bet $100 (Payable via venmo, zelle or paypal) that if both Desantis and Trump run, Desantis will ultimately beat Trump.  I can't help feeling that from 2015 to now, the majority of Republicans have figured Trump out and will prefer Desantis even if they admire Trump.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on March 24, 2023, 08:43:50 PM


Well, let's see how many people show up in Waco tomorrow. :D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on March 25, 2023, 06:17:42 PM


Only a dozen showed up - he's lost his mojo.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1639749799304937472
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: IroNat on March 26, 2023, 05:44:52 AM
Joe B. is a great President so why change?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: tatoo on March 26, 2023, 06:20:36 AM
Only a dozen showed up - he's lost his mojo.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1639749799304937472

lol..... but trumpy...... but, but, but, boo hoo....
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: The Scott on March 26, 2023, 06:42:22 AM
Joe B. is a great President so why change?

I suppose it all...depends... ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 27, 2023, 12:57:20 AM
Joe B. is a great President so why change?
That should be his campaign slogan for 2024.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 27, 2023, 01:56:30 PM
You're a reasonable guy and I tend to enjoy your posts, whether we see eye to eye on things. So in a spirit of fun, lets design a bet that's easily determined... For example, I bet $100 (Payable via venmo, zelle or paypal) that if both Desantis and Trump run, Desantis will ultimately beat Trump.  I can't help feeling that from 2015 to now, the majority of Republicans have figured Trump out and will prefer Desantis even if they admire Trump.

No thanks.  There is nothing fun about gambling with an internet stranger over something I have no control over. 

I'll just stick with my prediction that Trump will be the nominee, regardless of who runs.  I love DeSantis and if I was a Republican I would vote for him over Trump in a primary, but I don't see a scenario where DeSantis (or anyone else) beats Trump in the primary.

Part of your problem is you refuse to look at Trump's actual record as POTUS.  It is phenomenal.  "The majority of Republicans" have figured that out. 

As for me, unless all else is equal, I will always vote policy over personality.   
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Wayne Tracker on March 27, 2023, 02:05:15 PM
No thanks.  There is nothing fun about gambling with an internet stranger over something I have no control over. 

I'll just stick with my prediction that Trump will be the nominee, regardless of who runs.  I love DeSantis and if I was a Republican I would vote for him over Trump in a primary, but I don't see a scenario where DeSantis (or anyone else) beats Trump in the primary.

Part of your problem is you refuse to look at Trump's actual record as POTUS.  It is phenomenal.  "The majority of Republicans" have figured that out. 

As for me, unless all else is equal, I will always vote policy over personality.

LOL

He was a complete disaster ...just ask the long list of people who used to work for him that now think he was a trainwreck
Rex Tillerson, HR McMaster, John Bolton, Stephanie Grisham, William Barr (first names that come to mind - I'm sure there are many more)

There was the awesome trade war with China, the constant sucking up to Putin.
Lets not forget that he claimed to have fallen in love with Kim Jong Un (I can only imagine with the right wing would have done if Biden made that claim).  He cancelled joint war games with South Korea.  He withdrew the US from the Iran nuclear deal.  He shit all over NATO which emboldened  Putin to move on Ukraine.  He and Pompeo basically undermined the government of Afghanistan by only negotiating with the Taliban and bragged that Biden couldn't change the deal he made

Oh yeah he was impeached twice, fomented an attack on our Capitol and tried to coerce Republican officials in multiple states to help him steal an election that he lost

Did I miss anything ?

Just going from memory
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 27, 2023, 08:04:31 PM
Report: DeSantis Donors, Supporters Begin to Question if He Should Run in 2024 or Wait Until 2028
HANNAH BLEAU
25 Mar 2023
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2Fpolitics%2F2023%2F03%2F25%2Fdesantis-donors-supporters-begin-question-if-he-should-run-2024-wait-2028%2F
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 27, 2023, 09:34:38 PM
LOL

He was a complete disaster ...just ask the long list of people who used to work for him that now think he was a trainwreck
Rex Tillerson, HR McMaster, John Bolton, Stephanie Grisham, William Barr (first names that come to mind - I'm sure there are many more)

There was the awesome trade war with China, the constant sucking up to Putin.
Lets not forget that he claimed to have fallen in love with Kim Jong Un (I can only imagine with the right wing would have done if Biden made that claim).  He cancelled joint war games with South Korea.  He withdrew the US from the Iran nuclear deal.  He shit all over NATO which emboldened  Putin to move on Ukraine.  He and Pompeo basically undermined the government of Afghanistan by only negotiating with the Taliban and bragged that Biden couldn't change the deal he made

Oh yeah he was impeached twice, fomented an attack on our Capitol and tried to coerce Republican officials in multiple states to help him steal an election that he lost

Did I miss anything ?

Just going from memory

Maybe "Phenomenal" doesn't mean what we thought it meant
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 27, 2023, 11:35:30 PM
Maybe "Phenomenal" doesn't mean what we thought it meant

And you still have not responded to the point-by-point summary of the Trump versus Biden record.  Because you can't.  That's what happens when emotion trumps logic and reason, which is how a disproportionate number of you liberals/progressives process information.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 28, 2023, 09:17:29 PM
And you still have not responded to the point-by-point summary of the Trump versus Biden record.  Because you can't.  That's what happens when emotion trumps logic and reason, which is how a disproportionate number of you liberals/progressives process information.

You excuse every wrong thing trump did... why are you expecting anyone to take your posts seriously? I say that because from experience I could easily list a litany of things trump did wrong culminating in the fact he was impeached twice and may be arrested, but i know from experience I would go through the trouble of listing them all and you would discount them. So excuse me for not being gullible enough to fall for that ploy
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: AbrahamG on March 28, 2023, 09:21:17 PM
Not even counting 2020, both Biden and Obama's job records beat Trumps. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 28, 2023, 10:59:19 PM
You excuse every wrong thing trump did... why are you expecting anyone to take your posts seriously? I say that because from experience I could easily list a litany of things trump did wrong culminating in the fact he was impeached twice and may be arrested, but i know from experience I would go through the trouble of listing them all and you would discount them. So excuse me for not being gullible enough to fall for that ploy

I don't expect you to take anything seriously because you are a troll. 

You can easily list a bunch of crap, because you don't do your homework.  And I could dismantle your crap if I cared enough and wanted to waste my time educating you.  So I agree, do not waste your time listing things you think Trump did wrong. 

And the issue is what he did right and what was the state of the country during his tenure versus Biden.  That's what you cannot address. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 30, 2023, 11:49:58 PM
As Indictment Drops, Poll Shows Surprising Move for Trump in GOP 2024 Race
By Nick Arama | March 30, 2023
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2023/03/30/as-indictment-drops-poll-shows-surprising-move-for-trump-in-gop-2024-race-n724077
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 30, 2023, 11:50:55 PM
Fox News Poll: Trump's lead grows in GOP primary race, now over 50% support
Republican primary voters were read a list of 15 announced and potential candidates for the 2024 nomination and voiced their preferred choices
By Victoria Balara | Fox News
Published March 29, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/official-polls/fox-news-poll-trumps-lead-grows-in-gop-primary-race-now-over-50-support
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 31, 2023, 09:11:06 PM
Personally I'm torn. On one hand I hope Trump never runs for office again. Never gets a platform to spew his hate. On the other hand, I kind of hope he makes a run for the office in 2024 and gets beat by Desantis only to see how his worn our "rigged" excuse plays out among the Republicans
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: AbrahamG on April 01, 2023, 12:47:34 AM
Personally I'm torn. On one hand I hope Trump never runs for office again. Never gets a platform to spew his hate. On the other hand, I kind of hope he makes a run for the office in 2024 and gets beat by Desantis only to see how his worn our "rigged" excuse plays out among the Republicans

I have a slightly different take.  I hope he runs in 2024 against DeSantis in the primary.  Reason being we'll get rid of 2 hateful assholes at once.  Trump will do to DeSantis what he did to Jeb Bush but only it will be much uglier.  Then come general election time, Joe will beat him handily.  Again.  Truthfully, I don't think DeSantis is going to run unless Trump is out of the picture.  I don't think he has the stones to handle what Trump will throw at him. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on April 01, 2023, 04:54:07 AM
I have a slightly different take.  I hope he runs in 2024 against DeSantis in the primary.  Reason being we'll get rid of 2 hateful assholes at once.  Trump will do to DeSantis what he did to Jeb Bush but only it will be much uglier.  Then come general election time, Joe will beat him handily.  Again.  Truthfully, I don't think DeSantis is going to run unless Trump is out of the picture.  I don't think he has the stones to handle what Trump will throw at him.

DeSantis isn't hateful.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on April 01, 2023, 04:55:20 AM
I have a slightly different take.  I hope he runs in 2024 against DeSantis in the primary.  Reason being we'll get rid of 2 hateful assholes at once.  Trump will do to DeSantis what he did to Jeb Bush but only it will be much uglier.  Then come general election time, Joe will beat him handily.  Again.  Truthfully, I don't think DeSantis is going to run unless Trump is out of the picture.  I don't think he has the stones to handle what Trump will throw at him.

I want Trump to just go away.  While I do like some of the policy and some of the drama he brings (exposing the press for sure), we don't need the turmoil.  Plus, mainly, TOO OLD.  Need younger leaders.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: The Gov on April 01, 2023, 07:43:47 AM
Personally I'm torn. On one hand I hope Trump never runs for office again. Never gets a platform to spew his hate. On the other hand, I kind of hope he makes a run for the office in 2024 and gets beat by Desantis only to see how his worn our "rigged" excuse plays out among the Republicans

what Hate ??
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: The Scott on April 01, 2023, 10:15:15 AM
This is for all you pedophile  and child mutilation supporters.  You voted for Democrats and we hold you responsible for what is happening to our children and our nation.

Well, well...If it isn't the poster perverts for Democrats on this forum.  You fucking pedophile supporters.  You supporters of the mutilation of our children.

It is fitting that today is April Tools Day because that is what you and all Democrats are, the tools of the Party of Pedophilia and child mutilation.

Everyone here should spit on your soul.  Tool. 

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 01, 2023, 12:49:20 PM
what Hate ??

 ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: The Gov on April 01, 2023, 03:21:14 PM
;D

give us examples ??
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Gym Rat on April 01, 2023, 05:48:29 PM
Personally I'm torn. On one hand I hope Trump never runs for office again. Never gets a platform to spew his hate. On the other hand, I kind of hope he makes a run for the office in 2024 and gets beat by Desantis only to see how his worn our "rigged" excuse plays out among the Republicans

All the shitter does is spew hate. You sir can only see one side of things.
Don's insane, but he sure ran the country better than the 50-yr political phony in place today.
These turds have done nothing right, and everything wrong.

Abe, youre delusional about job creation. Most were re-employs after being shut down by RONA.
We're still down actual jobs from before RONA..
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 01, 2023, 06:23:55 PM
All the shitter does is spew hate. You sir can only see one side of things.
Don's insane, but he sure ran the country better than the 50-yr political phony in place today.
These turds have done nothing right, and everything wrong.

Abe, youre delusional about job creation. Most were re-employs after being shut down by RONA.
We're still down actual jobs from before RONA..

FYI, Biden was born 11/4/1942 is 80 years old... probably a typo but thought you might want to fix it.

Get ready for it, I will be 79 in August. Yikes!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 01, 2023, 11:46:20 PM
give us examples ??
He thinks not allowing trannies to molest your kids is hate.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on April 02, 2023, 05:37:01 AM
All the shitter does is spew hate. You sir can only see one side of things.
Don's insane, but he sure ran the country better than the 50-yr political phony in place today.
These turds have done nothing right, and everything wrong.

Abe, youre delusional about job creation. Most were re-employs after being shut down by RONA.
We're still down actual jobs from before RONA..

If anything, Biden promised to be a uniter, and he's been hardly that at all.  Quite the opposite.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on April 02, 2023, 08:27:59 AM
If anything, Biden promised to be a uniter, and he's been hardly that at all.  Quite the opposite.
It was the same with Obama, the only unity they want is for you to agree with and follow them, anything else means destruction of cities.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 02, 2023, 02:10:22 PM
If anything, Biden promised to be a uniter, and he's been hardly that at all.  Quite the opposite.

There are some folks in congress that are likely ununitable, especially a few of the most vocal GOP reps in the House.

Democrats passed major pieces of legislation, several with bipartisan support. Bipartisan support which is what gets bills passed and signed into law reflect on Biden's ability to bring the GOP and Democrats together. 

One of Biden's first acts as president was to try to get the coronavirus pandemic under control by passing the $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan.

The White House sent Americans in the low-to-medium income range a $1,400 payment to help fund basic necessities like rent and groceries. Biden also extended a $300 a week federal unemployment benefit for some 9.7 million people out of work at the time, temporarily expanded the child tax credit program, allotted $7.25 billion for small business loans and $128 billion in grants for state educational agencies.

Biden signed a $1 trillion infrastructure bill into law in November 2021 that will repair the nation's roads, bridges and railways, bring high-speed internet to rural communities and more.

The Bipartisan Infrastructure Law includes: $284 billion for transportation needs, which includes repairing bridges and roadways, public transit and airports, electric vehicles and low emission public transportation; $65 billion for broadband internet; $73 billion for power infrastructure; and $55 billion for clean drinking water.

The legislation was a major bipartisan achievement, made possible by 32 Republicans — 13 in the House and 19 in the Senate — who crossed the aisle to ensure it passed.

Biden signed into law the largest gun-safety bill to pass Congress in nearly 30 years. This bipartisan piece of legislation will ultimately save lives.

Biden's CHIPS and Science Act of 2022 passed in August, which allocated roughly $53 billion in federal funding to manufacture semiconductor chips in the U.S. instead of relying on China to produce them. It passed the Senate and the House through bipartisan efforts.


Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 03, 2023, 12:54:25 PM
DeSantis isn't hateful.

Nope.  But he will be branded a hateful "worse than Trump" racist whenever he becomes the nominee. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 03, 2023, 12:55:15 PM
Had to check and ensure this was not an April Fool's headline.

Liz Cheney 2024 chances jump after Trump indictment
by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist
April 03, 2023
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/liz-cheney-2024-chances-jump-after-trump-indictment
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 04, 2023, 12:50:28 AM
Had to check and ensure this was not an April Fool's headline.

Liz Cheney 2024 chances jump after Trump indictment
by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist
April 03, 2023
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/liz-cheney-2024-chances-jump-after-trump-indictment
The odds jumped from 0% to .000000000001%.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 04, 2023, 01:17:00 PM
Had to check and ensure this was not an April Fool's headline.

Liz Cheney 2024 chances jump after Trump indictment
by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist
April 03, 2023
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/liz-cheney-2024-chances-jump-after-trump-indictment


LOL!

Trump almost certainly wins, in or out of jail. All he has to do is be alive, the whiplash against this and the absolute shit economy will do the rest.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2023, 12:00:27 PM
The odds jumped from 0% to .000000000001%.

And she just might be delusional enough to run. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2023, 12:02:36 PM

LOL!

Trump almost certainly wins, in or out of jail. All he has to do is be alive, the whiplash against this and the absolute shit economy will do the rest.

As the last election showed, he doesn't have to be alive, mentally competent, or coherent to win.  People elected a dead guy and a guy who just spent the last month in a hospital, who is unable to effectively communicate without typed messages. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2023, 12:04:20 PM
Trump widens lead in 2024 Republican presidential primary: Reuters/Ipsos poll
April 3, 2023
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-widens-lead-2024-republican-presidential-primary-2023-04-03/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2023, 12:56:04 PM
Trump widens lead in 2024 Republican presidential primary: Reuters/Ipsos poll
April 3, 2023
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-widens-lead-2024-republican-presidential-primary-2023-04-03/

That is great. I hope he makes it to the general because he will lose... again.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2023, 01:40:26 PM
That is great. I hope he makes it to the general because he will lose... again.

Same calculation people made in 2016. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2023, 01:49:23 PM
Same calculation people made in 2016.

What were the calculations for the 2018 midterms when Republican's lost the house, the 2020 general when Trump lost the election, and the 2022 midterms when the red wave didn't happen.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2023, 01:56:42 PM
What were the calculations for the 2018 midterms when Republican's lost the house, the 2020 general when Trump lost the election, and the 2022 midterms when the red wave didn't happen.

Has nothing to do with happened in 2016. 

And the only thing that changed in 2020 was Covid. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2023, 02:25:57 PM
Has nothing to do with happened in 2016. 

And the only thing that changed in 2020 was Covid.

So, I guess this means you believe Trump lost the 2020 election because of the way he handled COVID? Interesting. For some reason, I would have guessed that you thought it was stolen from him due to runaway voter fraud.

A little while back, I got the impression you were leaning towards DeSantis winning in 2024. Has this changed? DeSantis makes me nervous. Some of his tactics as governor appear to be rather underhanded. Maybe it is just how he is portrayed in the media.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2023, 02:29:20 PM
So, I guess this means you believe Trump lost the 2020 election because of the way he handled COVID? Interesting. For some reason, I would have guessed that you thought it was stolen from him due to runaway voter fraud.

A little while back, I got the impression you were leaning towards DeSantis winning in 2024. Has this changed? DeSantis makes me nervous. Some of his tactics as governor appear to be rather underhanded. Maybe it is just how he is portrayed in the media.

What? No.  He lost because Covid tanked the best economy in the past 50 years.  Without Covid, he would have run away with 2020 election. 

I have never said DeSantis will win in 2024.  I've said the exact opposite, because I don't think he can beat Trump.  If for some reason DeSantis is the nominee, then yes I believe he would be beat Biden, Harris, Newsome et al.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2023, 02:46:57 PM
What? No.  He lost because Covid tanked the best economy in the past 50 years.  Without Covid, he would have run away with 2020 election. 

I have never said DeSantis will win in 2024.  I've said the exact opposite, because I don't think he can be Trump.  If for some reason DeSantis is the nominee, then yes I believe he would be beat Biden, Harris, Newsome et al.

Ha, ha... Even though I think it was a typo and you meant beat instead of be, anyone including De Santis being Trump is hard to conceive of. Trump is definitely one of a kind... thank goodness.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2023, 05:02:06 PM
Ha, ha... Even though I think it was a typo and you meant beat instead of be, anyone including De Santis being Trump is hard to conceive of. Trump is definitely one of a kind... thank goodness.

Yes.  Typo.  I fixed it.  It's too bad we don't have more politicians like Trump when it comes to what he accomplished. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2023, 05:05:50 PM
They are such hacks.  Describing him as "the anti-vaccine activist."   ::)

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. running for president in 2024
The anti-vaccine activist is vying for the Democratic nomination.
By KELLY GARRITY
04/05/2023
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/05/robert-f-kennedy-jr-running-president-2024-00090706
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2023, 05:47:55 PM
Good looking family.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fs9hPLsWYAE4yQg?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2023, 12:31:46 PM
Uh oh.  Time to roll out more indictments.

Trump takes biggest 2024 lead yet over Biden
by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist
April 05, 2023
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/trump-takes-biggest-2024-lead-yet-over-biden
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2023, 12:34:36 PM
Tim Scott gets Senate GOP nudge for 2024 bid
AL WEAVER
Wed, Apr 5, 2023
https://sports.yahoo.com/tim-scott-gets-senate-gop-100000726.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 06, 2023, 12:54:34 PM
They are such hacks.  Describing him as "the anti-vaccine activist."   ::)

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. running for president in 2024
The anti-vaccine activist is vying for the Democratic nomination.
By KELLY GARRITY
04/05/2023
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/05/robert-f-kennedy-jr-running-president-2024-00090706

Well, according the the article he is the chair of the anti-vaccine nonprofit group Children’s Health Defense known for its anti-vaccine stance. Would not this imply he is an anti-vaccine activist? This is a link to a Children's Health Defense article posted on their website, https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/bp-covid-vaccine-offered-vulnerable-babies-children-uk/?itm_term=home (https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/bp-covid-vaccine-offered-vulnerable-babies-children-uk/?itm_term=home)

Some of their article titles:

'COVID Vaccine to Be Offered to Vulnerable Babies and Children in U.K.'

'Gardasil Cervical Cancer Lawsuit Claims Merck Falsely Represented HPV Vaccine’s Effectiveness'

'Moderna’s CEO Bancel Suggests That Lower Demand for the COVID Vaccine Is a Justification for Quadrupling of the Price'


They certainly appear to be anti-vaccine. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is the Chair. Enough said.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2023, 01:07:13 PM
Well, according the the article he is the chair of the anti-vaccine nonprofit group Children’s Health Defense known for its anti-vaccine stance. Would not this imply he is an anti-vaccine activist? This is a link to a Children's Health Defense article posted on their website, https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/bp-covid-vaccine-offered-vulnerable-babies-children-uk/?itm_term=home (https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/bp-covid-vaccine-offered-vulnerable-babies-children-uk/?itm_term=home)

Some of their article titles:

'COVID Vaccine to Be Offered to Vulnerable Babies and Children in U.K.'

'Gardasil Cervical Cancer Lawsuit Claims Merck Falsely Represented HPV Vaccine’s Effectiveness'

'Moderna’s CEO Bancel Suggests That Lower Demand for the COVID Vaccine Is a Justification for Quadrupling of the Price'


They certainly appear to be anti-vaccine. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is the Chair. Enough said.

He is involved with an organization that doesn't believe babies should receive unnecessary vaccines.  Wow.  No, that does not define who he is.  His lifetime body of work defines who he is. 

But passive aggressive headlines like this achieve the desired result of feeding and conditioning people with tunnel vision.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2023, 01:07:36 PM
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Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 06, 2023, 01:37:46 PM
He is involved with an organization that doesn't believe babies should receive unnecessary vaccines.  Wow.  No, that does not define who he is.  His lifetime body of work defines who he is. 

But passive aggressive headlines like this achieve the desired result of feeding and conditioning people with tunnel vision.

So are you saying you agree with these headlines and their purpose? Interesting. Is Kennedy for or against vaccines? Is the organization he chairs pro or opposed to vaccines?

Kennedy has many interests and notable accomplishments including his views on vaccines which appear to be anti-vaccine, am I wrong?

Here are a couple of current headlines where he is noted for his anti-vaccine stance in reference to his running for President.

The Washington Post
'Robert F. Kennedy Jr., anti-vaccine proponent, files to run for president'

The New York Times
'Robert Kennedy Jr., a Noted Vaccine Skeptic, Files to Run for President'

 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2023, 05:25:24 PM
So are you saying you agree with these headlines and their purpose? Interesting. Is Kennedy for or against vaccines? Is the organization he chairs pro or opposed to vaccines?

Kennedy has many interests and notable accomplishments including his views on vaccines which appear to be anti-vaccine, am I wrong?

Here are a couple of current headlines where he is noted for his anti-vaccine stance in reference to his running for President.

The Washington Post
'Robert F. Kennedy Jr., anti-vaccine proponent, files to run for president'

The New York Times
'Robert Kennedy Jr., a Noted Vaccine Skeptic, Files to Run for President'

What??  I disagree with the narrative of the headline.  As I indicated, he should be described based on his body of work, not by his participation in some board or believer in some cause. 

It's like this headline about Herman Cain:

Herman Cain, ex-presidential candidate who refused to wear mask, dies after COVID-19 diagnosis
By Reuters Staff
JULY 30, 2020
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-cain-idUSKCN24V2OD

They didn't define Herman Cain as the incredibly successful businessman.  They included that garbage about wearing a mask.  As if that defined him or caused his death.  This kind of misleading headline is what continues to provide fodder for partisans. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 10, 2023, 11:06:48 AM
Biden says he's still 'not prepared to announce' 2024 presidential run
Biden, 80, insists he plans on running
By Jessica Chasmar | Fox News
Published April 10, 2023

President Biden said Monday that he intends to run for re-election in 2024 but still isn't ready to formally announce it yet.

"I plan on running, Al, but we’re not prepared to announce it yet," the president told NBC's Al Roker on the "Today" show.

Biden joked that he still had four, "maybe five," more White House Easter egg rolls in him.

The 80-year-old president has repeatedly said for months that he intends to seek a second term in the White House, but he’s yet to make any formal announcements.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-still-not-prepared-announce-2024-presidential-run
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 10, 2023, 11:08:53 AM
Spoiler Joe? Speculation grows Manchin might wage third-party challenge to Biden
An independent run by West Virginia senator would be reminiscent of Ross Perot's disruptive '92 bid.
By Nick Givas
Updated: April 8, 2023
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/eve-third-wheelhow-manchin-could-become-next-ross-perot-centrist-voters
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 10, 2023, 11:11:49 AM
Just 32 percent believe Biden should be reelected. 

https://rumble.com/v2gmd2q-you-know-it-pained-cnn-to-report-this.html?mref=22lbp&mc=56yab
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: The Scott on April 10, 2023, 11:12:34 AM
Just 32 percent believe Biden should be reelected. 

https://rumble.com/v2gmd2q-you-know-it-pained-cnn-to-report-this.html?mref=22lbp&mc=56yab

And those are probably all long dead "voters".
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 10, 2023, 11:41:53 AM
Spoiler Joe? Speculation grows Manchin might wage third-party challenge to Biden
An independent run by West Virginia senator would be reminiscent of Ross Perot's disruptive '92 bid.
By Nick Givas
Updated: April 8, 2023
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/eve-third-wheelhow-manchin-could-become-next-ross-perot-centrist-voters


Like Ross Perot, haha.... "I knew Ross Perot and Manchin is no Ross Perot"  ala Lloyd Bentsen.

Nobody is voting for him. He just extorts his party so his shithole state gets more.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 10, 2023, 11:58:14 AM
What??  I disagree with the narrative of the headline.  As I indicated, he should be described based on his body of work, not by his participation in some board or believer in some cause. 

It's like this headline about Herman Cain:

Herman Cain, ex-presidential candidate who refused to wear mask, dies after COVID-19 diagnosis
By Reuters Staff
JULY 30, 2020
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-cain-idUSKCN24V2OD

They didn't define Herman Cain as the incredibly successful businessman.  They included that garbage about wearing a mask.  As if that defined him or caused his death.  This kind of misleading headline is what continues to provide fodder for partisans.

It is good that you do not agree with that headline. Since Kennedy Chairs the organization that published it and the accompanying article, he is at the least partly responsible for what they publish. So while it does not define him by his entire 'body of work' it does speak to at least a part of it.

I Chair a corporation dedicated to supporting PERS retirees. Before our public relations/lobbyist folks publish anything on our webpage or in our newsletter the board reviews it. When we do surveys and other member mailings my name is on them, so I darn well want to know the details of the survey or mailing because if a member disagrees or is offended, I am going to hear about it.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 10, 2023, 12:02:57 PM
And those are probably all long dead "voters".

So now the dead speak as well as vote. And here I thought that when someone dies, they cease directly communicating either vocally or with actions.  :)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 10, 2023, 12:05:37 PM
So now the dead speak as well as vote. And here I thought that when someone dies, they cease directly communicating either vocally or with actions.  :)


You either live in a bubble or have amnesia if you are unaware of this tactic.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 10, 2023, 12:25:12 PM

Like Ross Perot, haha.... "I knew Ross Perot and Manchin is no Ross Perot"  ala Lloyd Bentsen.

Nobody is voting for him. He just extorts his party so his shithole state gets more.

Yeah.  Zero appeal to independents and crossover Republicans. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 10, 2023, 12:26:46 PM
It is good that you do not agree with that headline. Since Kennedy Chairs the organization that published it and the accompanying article, he is at the least partly responsible for what they publish. So while it does not define him by his entire 'body of work' it does speak to at least a part of it.

I Chair a corporation dedicated to supporting PERS retirees. Before our public relations/lobbyist folks publish anything on our webpage or in our newsletter the board reviews it. When we do surveys and other member mailings my name is on them, so I darn well want to know the details of the survey or mailing because if a member disagrees or is offended, I am going to hear about it.

If you die tomorrow, should a headline announcing your death include your position as board chair and a controversial position the board has taken?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 11, 2023, 11:24:27 PM
Republican Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina to launch presidential exploratory committee
Scott will be a guest Wednesday morning on Fox News’ “Fox and Friends"
By Paul Steinhauser | Fox News
Published April 11, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republican-sen-tim-scott-south-carolina-launch-presidential-exploratory-committee
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 12, 2023, 12:59:54 AM
Republican Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina to launch presidential exploratory committee
Scott will be a guest Wednesday morning on Fox News’ “Fox and Friends"
By Paul Steinhauser | Fox News
Published April 11, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republican-sen-tim-scott-south-carolina-launch-presidential-exploratory-committee
I'll save him the time and money. DON'T RUN!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 13, 2023, 02:26:14 PM
I'll save him the time and money. DON'T RUN!

We can say that about anyone other than Trump.  Barring some kind of health issue, he's going to be the GOP nominee. 

But I do like Scott.  He should be on the VP short list.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 13, 2023, 02:26:47 PM
Romney Files For 2024 Re-Election But Doesn’t Actually Announce a Bid
Photo of Jon Dougherty Jon Dougherty
April 13, 2023
https://conservativebrief.com/romney-files-72478/?utm_source=CB&utm_medium=TW
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 14, 2023, 01:20:51 AM
We can say that about anyone other than Trump.  Barring some kind of health issue, he's going to be the GOP nominee. 

But I do like Scott.  He should be on the VP short list.

Trump will not be the GOP nominee-
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: AbrahamG on April 14, 2023, 01:28:08 AM
Trump will not be the GOP nominee-

Unless he gets barred from running I'll have to disagree with you on this one. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 14, 2023, 01:38:55 AM
Unless he gets barred from running I'll have to disagree with you on this one.

His age, his baggage... not enough Republicans are that stupid to put their eggs in his basket. This forum is skewed. There are enough rational republicans that don't post here that will go Desantis over Trump.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2023, 01:20:58 PM
Mike Pompeo called it quits.   Dropped out and refused to endore Trumpy.   :D

That little campaign didn't last long.    :'(
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 16, 2023, 12:37:14 AM
Romney Files For 2024 Re-Election But Doesn’t Actually Announce a Bid
Photo of Jon Dougherty Jon Dougherty
April 13, 2023
https://conservativebrief.com/romney-files-72478/?utm_source=CB&utm_medium=TW
He would have a better chance running as a democrat. Romney is the republican version of Joe Manchin.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 17, 2023, 02:28:33 PM
His age, his baggage... not enough Republicans are that stupid to put their eggs in his basket. This forum is skewed. There are enough rational republicans that don't post here that will go Desantis over Trump.

This forum is consistent with essentially all available polls, which show Trump with a commanding lead as the GOP nominee.  As I previously indicated, I would love to see DeSantis win, but I don't see a path forward for him to beat Trump.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 17, 2023, 02:29:01 PM
Mike Pompeo called it quits.   Dropped out and refused to endore Trumpy.   :D

That little campaign didn't last long.    :'(

He never had a campaign. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 17, 2023, 02:30:04 PM
He would have a better chance running as a democrat. Romney is the republican version of Joe Manchin.

Yeah his window has closed.  Wouldn't surprise me if he ran as a Democrat.  Good analogy to Manchin. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 18, 2023, 01:10:48 AM
Yeah his window has closed.  Wouldn't surprise me if he ran as a Democrat.  Good analogy to Manchin.
They are actually buddies. When CSPAN shows Senate votes they are always standing together and talking. Probably feel a kinship knowing they are the most hated senator in their party.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 18, 2023, 02:32:56 PM
They are actually buddies. When CSPAN shows Senate votes they are always standing together and talking. Probably feel a kinship knowing they are the most hated senator in their party.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell is the least popular senator in the U.S., according to new polling, as the Kentucky Republican has faced backlash from both the right and the left over the last year.

Senator Susan Margaret Collins (R) Maine, is considered the most liberal republican senator. In 1996, Senator Collins was elected to the Senate. She was reelected in 2002, 2008, 2014, and 2020. Senator Collins has cast more than 8,500 consecutive votes and holds the longest perfect voting record in the history of the U.S. Senate.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: TheGrinch on April 19, 2023, 07:31:25 AM
LOL @ voting... good luck with that
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 19, 2023, 11:54:53 AM
Good looking family.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fs9hPLsWYAE4yQg?format=png&name=small)

I really like this guy. Smart, well spoken, great agenda and solid on his positions. Just love listening to him. I know Trump will win and at this point Ramaswamy doesn’t have a chance in hell but can’t wait to see how he plays out in the next year.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 19, 2023, 03:12:16 PM
I really like this guy. Smart, well spoken, great agenda and solid on his positions. Just love listening to him. I know Trump will win and at this point Ramaswamy doesn’t have a chance in hell but can’t wait to see how he plays out in the next year.

I agree.  I’ve been impressed the few times I’ve heard him speak. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 19, 2023, 04:09:34 PM
I really like this guy. Smart, well spoken, great agenda and solid on his positions. Just love listening to him. I know Trump will win and at this point Ramaswamy doesn’t have a chance in hell but can’t wait to see how he plays out in the next year.

Note: I am not disagreeing with your assessment that Ramaswamy doesn't of getting elected. I am interested in knowing  just why you think he will not get elected... be specific.

You said, "I really like this guy. Smart, well spoken, great agenda and solid on his positions. Just love listening to him." Does this mean you would vote for him if he stood a chance of winning the 2024 election?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on April 19, 2023, 04:42:06 PM
I really like this guy. Smart, well spoken, great agenda and solid on his positions. Just love listening to him. I know Trump will win and at this point Ramaswamy doesn’t have a chance in hell but can’t wait to see how he plays out in the next year.

 8)

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 19, 2023, 07:28:38 PM
8)



This was such a great interview. I’ve never subscribed to candidates YouTube, not even Trumps but I did with this guy. At what point in did Lemon say to himself “this guy is light years ahead of me in intellect” ?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 19, 2023, 07:40:36 PM
Note: I am not disagreeing with your assessment that Ramaswamy doesn't of getting elected. I am interested in knowing  just why you think he will not get elected... be specific.

You said, "I really like this guy. Smart, well spoken, great agenda and solid on his positions. Just love listening to him." Does this mean you would vote for him if he stood a chance of winning the 2024 election?

He’s not known. I didn’t know anything of him until just a few months ago as opposed to Trump I’ve known of him for decades even before he ran. As for the reason why he wouldn’t get elected even if he had a chance of winning? He would win with the Republican Party, the only thing that would possibly hold him back would be (as ridiculous as this sounds) would be his name.

The left will run more on diversity, black woman (rumors of Mooshell Obama), trans, gay, etc. The thought of an Indian/American isn’t considered “diverse” and will go after him like they went after Trump because he’s a businessman and not a politician.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: AbrahamG on April 19, 2023, 07:42:46 PM
He’s not known. I didn’t know anything of him until just a few months ago as opposed to Trump I’ve known of him for decades even before he ran. As for the reason why he wouldn’t get elected even if he had a chance of winning? He would win with the Republican Party, the only thing that would possibly hold him back would be (as ridiculous as this sounds) would be his name.

The left will run more on diversity, black woman (rumors of Mooshell Obama), trans, gay, etc. The thought of an Indian/American isn’t considered “diverse” and will go after him like they went after Trump because he’s a businessman and not a politician.

I think your party has a "base" problem and that is what will prevent this seemingly decent man from getting the nomination.  So in that sense, I agree with you that his last name will be a problem. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 19, 2023, 08:29:38 PM
I think your party has a "base" problem and that is what will prevent this seemingly decent man from getting the nomination.  So in that sense, I agree with you that his last name will be a problem.

Yep…I won’t disagree
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on April 19, 2023, 09:35:32 PM
This was such a great interview. I’ve never subscribed to candidates YouTube, not even Trumps but I did with this guy. At what point in did Lemon say to himself “this guy is light years ahead of me in intellect” ?

At 8:16.  And the gal seemed to be on a double dose of Xanax.  ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on April 19, 2023, 09:40:33 PM
I think your party has a "base" problem and that is what will prevent this seemingly decent man from getting the nomination.  So in that sense, I agree with you that his last name will be a problem.

Obama had fun with his last name; I predict Ramaswamy will too:

Hendon: Senator, could you correctly pronounce your name for me? I’m having a little trouble with it.

Obama: Obama.

Hendon: Is that Irish?

Obama: It will be when I run countywide.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 19, 2023, 10:54:26 PM
He’s not known. I didn’t know anything of him until just a few months ago as opposed to Trump I’ve known of him for decades even before he ran. As for the reason why he wouldn’t get elected even if he had a chance of winning? He would win with the Republican Party, the only thing that would possibly hold him back would be (as ridiculous as this sounds) would be his name.

The left will run more on diversity, black woman (rumors of Mooshell Obama), trans, gay, etc. The thought of an Indian/American isn’t considered “diverse” and will go after him like they went after Trump because he’s a businessman and not a politician.

The thing is after years of Republicans chocking on Obamas full name, it's not even remotely ridiculous, it's actually expected
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 25, 2023, 10:07:22 PM
So it's officially Biden v. Trump again.  Wonderful.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 25, 2023, 10:08:12 PM
Do it Donald.

Donald Trump ‘listening’ to insiders urging him to make DeSantis his VP pick
By Ian Mohr
April 25, 2023
https://pagesix.com/2023/04/25/trump-listening-to-insiders-urging-him-to-make-desantis-vp/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 27, 2023, 03:52:31 PM
 :o

Nikki Haley: Biden will likely die within five years

With recent polls showing voter concern over Biden's age, Republicans are divided about whether it should be a line of attack as the 2024 race heats up.
April 27, 2023
By Summer Concepcion
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/nikki-haley-biden-will-likely-die-five-years-rcna81740
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 27, 2023, 03:53:23 PM
Poll: Donald Trump Surges to 62 Percent; Ron DeSantis Crashes to 16 Percent
WENDELL HUSEBØ
27 Apr 2023
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2Fpolitics%2F2023%2F04%2F27%2Fpoll-donald-trump-surges-to-62-percent-ron-desantis-crashes-to-16-percent%2F
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 27, 2023, 03:56:46 PM
Ron DeSantis is set to jump into the 2024 presidential fray in mid-May
The Florida governor is poised to launch his presidential exploratory committee next month.
Updated April 27, 2023
By Matt Dixon and Natasha Korecki
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ron-desantis-set-jump-2024-presidential-fray-may-rcna81666
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 27, 2023, 03:57:26 PM
Watch live: Asa Hutchinson formally announces White House campaign
BY THE HILL STAFF - 04/26/23
https://thehill.com/video/3972547-watch-live-asa-hutchinson-formally-announces-white-house-campaign/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 03, 2023, 09:24:57 PM
BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: New poll shows Trump beating Biden head-to-head, Trump/DeSantis ticket winning popular vote
Americans also prefer a Trump/Kari Lake ticket over Biden/Harris at 47 to 42 percent.
Hannah Nightingale
Washington DC
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-exclusive-new-poll-shows-trump-beating-biden-head-to-head-trump-desantis-ticket-winning-popular-vote?utm_campaign=64487
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on May 04, 2023, 12:49:01 AM
Ron DeSantis is set to jump into the 2024 presidential fray in mid-May
The Florida governor is poised to launch his presidential exploratory committee next month.
Updated April 27, 2023
By Matt Dixon and Natasha Korecki
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ron-desantis-set-jump-2024-presidential-fray-may-rcna81666

I believe that DeSantis will enter the fray and that, post-announcement polling numbers will be much better for Ron, with Trump still slightly leading.

Trump WILL debate (how could he ignore free publicity?), and that's where DeSantis shows if he has the goods.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 04, 2023, 05:19:50 AM
I believe that DeSantis will enter the fray and that, post-announcement polling numbers will be much better for Ron, with Trump still slightly leading.

Trump WILL debate (how could he ignore free publicity?), and that's where DeSantis shows if he has the goods.


DeSantis would be crushed like his mentor Jeb.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on May 04, 2023, 01:27:39 PM

DeSantis would be crushed like his mentor Jeb.

A debate between DeSantis and Trump might be interesting since neither of them are particularly good debaters, but both are for their hostility, erraticism and outspokenness when backed into a corner. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: The Gov on May 04, 2023, 03:40:08 PM
A debate between DeSantis and Trump might be interesting since neither of them are particularly good debaters, but both are for their hostility, erraticism and outspokenness when backed into a corner.

LOL you really are weird are't you ? have you ever been right about anything in your entire life ?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on May 05, 2023, 06:00:28 PM
LOL you really are weird are't you ? have you ever been right about anything in your entire life ?

Yup. I am weird and weirdly I am also usually right about most things although losers often try to find a way to prove me wrong but rarely succeed. Just saying. ;)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 05, 2023, 08:17:37 PM
I believe that DeSantis will enter the fray and that, post-announcement polling numbers will be much better for Ron, with Trump still slightly leading.

Trump WILL debate (how could he ignore free publicity?), and that's where DeSantis shows if he has the goods.

I don't see a path for DeSantis to beat Trump.  I'd love to be proved wrong.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 05, 2023, 08:20:19 PM
Yup. I am weird and weirdly I am also usually right about most things although losers often try to find a way to prove me wrong but rarely succeed. Just saying. ;)

It is hilarious that you say this and the following in the same thread:

A debate between DeSantis and Trump might be interesting since neither of them are particularly good debaters, but both are for their hostility, erraticism and outspokenness when backed into a corner.

That does not accurately describe DeSantis at all.  Must be one of the rare times when you are wrong.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 05, 2023, 08:21:37 PM
I don't see a path for DeSantis to beat Trump.  I'd love to be proved wrong.

and I hope you are but .... the only thing on Desantis side is time... Any given day, Trump can step in it. Desantis is more polished although the Disney thing in my opinon was bad timing
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: The Gov on May 08, 2023, 07:15:20 AM
Yup. I am weird and weirdly I am also usually right about most things although losers often try to find a way to prove me wrong but rarely succeed. Just saying. ;)

Folks This is a sign of mental illness...
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 08, 2023, 07:16:15 AM
Yup. I am weird and weirdly I am also usually right about most things although losers often try to find a way to prove me wrong but rarely succeed. Just saying. ;)

LOL - go back to bed idiot.   
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 08, 2023, 02:13:20 PM
and I hope you are but .... the only thing on Desantis side is time... Any given day, Trump can step in it. Desantis is more polished although the Disney thing in my opinon was bad timing

From a policy and governing standpoint, DeSantis brings everything Trump does, without the drama.

You are really expecting Trump to "step in it" in a way that will impact his candidacy?  The same guy who survived the "gram em" comments?  Good luck with that. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on May 08, 2023, 03:40:19 PM
It is hilarious that you say this and the following in the same thread:

That does not accurately describe DeSantis at all.  Must be one of the rare times when you are wrong.

Must be.  ;)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on May 08, 2023, 03:41:44 PM
Folks This is a sign of mental illness...

I suspect you know all about mental illness.  ;)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on May 08, 2023, 03:44:51 PM
LOL - go back to bed idiot.

At 6:28 pm? Trust me, this is nowhere near my bedtime. Although, it is probably your bedtime in NY. Confused about time differences much? ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 09, 2023, 09:19:06 PM
Trump's lead over DeSantis increases to more than 40 points, according to poll
by Mabinty Quarshie, National Politics Correspondent |
May 09, 2023
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/trump-lead-desantis-polling
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 09, 2023, 09:33:55 PM
Report: DeSantis will skip exploratory committee and launch full campaign next month
JOHN SEXTON  May 05, 2023
https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2023/05/05/report-desantis-will-skip-exploratory-committee-and-launch-full-campaign-next-month-n548809
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 10, 2023, 02:01:30 AM
Report: DeSantis will skip exploratory committee and launch full campaign next month
JOHN SEXTON  May 05, 2023
https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2023/05/05/report-desantis-will-skip-exploratory-committee-and-launch-full-campaign-next-month-n548809
We will see if he gets a big bump when he announces.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on May 12, 2023, 06:39:32 PM
Deep fake of the day:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1657132855275683843
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 12, 2023, 11:52:44 PM
We will see if he gets a big bump when he announces.

He needs a lot more than a big bump.  There has to be a seismic shift. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on May 13, 2023, 06:04:55 AM
He needs a lot more than a big bump.  There has to be a seismic shift.

We all need Trump to not run.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on May 13, 2023, 02:18:05 PM
We all need Trump to not run.

You'll get no argument from me about this. Who in their right mind wants that lunatic in the Whitehouse clogging up the toilets with discarded classified documents again. :)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 13, 2023, 03:19:58 PM
We all need Trump to not run.


No we need him to run. Guaranteed crushing loss.  Entertaining meltdowns. Insane level of grifting his dumbass supporters to the moon.  Possible overflow of resentment to hurt the other candidates.   No more lies excuses like “if I had testified…” shit similar to how he made excuses after losing this last case, dumb ass supporters acting out and increasing the jail population, and the most important thing is seeing the cold stark fact that this country has moved on and left his fat ass behind. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: The Gov on May 14, 2023, 04:30:17 AM

No we need him to run. Guaranteed crushing loss.  Entertaining meltdowns. Insane level of grifting his dumbass supporters to the moon.  Possible overflow of resentment to hurt the other candidates.   No more lies excuses like “if I had testified…” shit similar to how he made excuses after losing this last case, dumb ass supporters acting out and increasing the jail population, and the most important thing is seeing the cold stark fact that this country has moved on and left his fat ass behind.

You dumb low IQ bitch with no life rambling about some syphilis induced random thoughts.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 14, 2023, 02:10:38 PM
DeSantis in Iowa : “need to reject the culture of losing”. 

The biggest loser wasn’t there to whine about it either.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 14, 2023, 11:39:31 PM
He needs a lot more than a big bump.  There has to be a seismic shift.
Anything can happen. Trump is old and not in the best of shape.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 15, 2023, 11:21:20 AM
We all need Trump to not run.

Too late.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 15, 2023, 11:27:45 AM
Anything can happen. Trump is old and not in the best of shape.

The problem is the only way Trump doesn't win is if something happens (like a health problem).  Absent that, he will likely be the nominee. 

That said, as much as I'd like to see DeSantis be the nominee, Trump is a 100 times better than Biden.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on May 15, 2023, 02:40:22 PM
The problem is the only way Trump doesn't win is if something happens (like a health problem).  Absent that, he will likely be the nominee. 

That said, as much as I'd like to see DeSantis be the nominee, Trump is a 100 times better than Biden.

IF WHAT YOU WANT IS A SOCIOPATHIC LUNATIC IN THE WHITEHOUSE, TRUMP IS 1,000 TIMES BETTER THAN BIDEN (note the Truth Social Trump style post).


Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 15, 2023, 02:53:11 PM
IF WHAT YOU WANT IS A SOCIOPATHIC LUNATIC IN THE WHITEHOUSE, TRUMP IS 1,000 TIMES BETTER THAN BIDEN (note the Truth Social Trump style post).

I want someone who is not going to get 13 servicemembers killed.  And will actually enforce the border.  And not raise my taxes.  And not engage in racist political appointments.  And not drive up interest rates.  Just little things like that. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 15, 2023, 02:54:06 PM
I want someone who is not going to get 13 servicemembers killed.  And will actually enforce the border.  And not raise my taxes.  And not engage in racist political appointments.  And not drive up interest rates.  Just little things like that.

Or get us into new wars , cause inflation , etc.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 15, 2023, 03:03:29 PM
Or get us into new wars , cause inflation , etc.

Yep.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 15, 2023, 06:46:55 PM
There are no new wars or new inflation, only centrally planned wars and centrally planned inflation. These plans are decades ahead of any "voting".
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 15, 2023, 07:43:58 PM
IF WHAT YOU WANT IS A SOCIOPATHIC LUNATIC IN THE WHITEHOUSE, TRUMP IS 1,000 TIMES BETTER THAN BIDEN (note the Truth Social Trump style post).

Fail....no exclamation points.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on May 15, 2023, 11:40:44 PM
I want someone who is not going to get 13 servicemembers killed.  And will actually enforce the border.  And not raise my taxes.  And not engage in racist political appointments.  And not drive up interest rates.  Just little things like that.

Here is to being granted the little things you want. Careful what you wish for, you may receive it... Have you read "The Monkey's Paw" by W. W. Jacobs? BTW you only get to want three things. Which two will you forego?

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Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 15, 2023, 11:57:45 PM
Here is to being granted the little things you want. Careful what you wish for, you may receive it... Have you read "The Monkey's Paw" by W. W. Jacobs? BTW you only get to want three things. Which two will you forego?

(https://d3rf6j5nx5r04a.cloudfront.net/Qg1jgyL9HvGp_EBTNumTncHXNog=/product/2/5/47a96ecd77f0497eab558f82304b4ee9_opt.jpg)

Yeah careful what I wish for.  I might wind up with the incredible accomplishments of President Trump again.  And no dead service members.

No I haven't read The Monkey's Paw. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on May 15, 2023, 11:58:05 PM
Fail....no exclamation points.

IF WHAT YOU WANT IS A SOCIOPATHIC LUNATIC IN THE WHITEHOUSE, TRUMP IS 1,000 TIMES BETTER THAN BIDEN!!!!!!!(note the Truth Social Trump style post).

Fixed - notice there is a lucky seven of them.

This is error happened because I do not read Trump's Twitter and now Truth Social rantings. It is embarrassing to see firsthand what some people thought, and still do is presidential/leader material. As the saying goes, 'fool me once shame on you; fool me twice shame on me.' Not that his base would recognize shame if it struck them like lightning.

 
 
 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 19, 2023, 10:50:09 AM
Tim Scott Files To Run For President
MARY LOU MASTERS
CONTRIBUTOR
May 19, 2023
https://dailycaller.com/2023/05/19/tim-scott-files-to-run-for-president/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking&pnespid=v6g5V3tCb6AWy6nK.yymFZ_ArQysDscqdfCwmOl0t0BmgjvKVQjkHeeHBxAePV57O5btrktsQg
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 19, 2023, 10:52:33 AM
DeSantis says he is one of only three 'credible' 2024 options, chances for Trump 'not great': report
'The corporate media wants Trump to be the nominee,' DeSantis reportedly said on a Thursday call with donors
Brandon GillespieBy Brandon Gillespie | Fox News
Published May 18, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-one-three-credible-2024-options-chances-trump-not-great-report
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 19, 2023, 10:59:06 AM
Trump Primary Lead Holds Firm as DeSantis Inches Towards Announcement.
BY JAKE WELCH
RAHEEM J. KASSAM
 MAY 17, 2023

Former President Donald Trump is leading the Republican presidential nominee race by a substantial margin, according to a new survey from Rasmussen Reports.

A total of 62 percent of likely Republican voters told Rasmussen that they would vote for Trump in the primaries, compared to the 17 percent who would choose the Governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis.

. . .

https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/05/17/trump-primary-lead-holds-firm-as-desantis-inches-towards-announcement/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 19, 2023, 11:43:08 AM
All DeSantis has to do is hold a rally in a state other than Florida to get a snap back to reality. Sounds like he has some of Jeb's crew giving advices.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 19, 2023, 11:00:15 PM
When the Republicans sober up.. Desantis Will have a surge is my guess
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 20, 2023, 01:03:25 AM
All DeSantis has to do is hold a rally in a state other than Florida to get a snap back to reality. Sounds like he has some of Jeb's crew giving advices.
His association with the Bush family is his biggest problem.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on May 20, 2023, 08:15:02 AM
When the Republicans sober up.. Desantis Will have a surge is my guess

Would hope.

But they just might get saddled with Trump again.

A united party with Desantis would win the election.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 21, 2023, 10:00:17 AM
Fail....no exclamation points.

Double Fail….. it is actually a truthful post.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 22, 2023, 11:51:53 PM
Report: ‘No Labels’ Looking at Third-Party Run in 2024 with Joe Manchin
JACOB BLISS  19 May 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2023/05/19/report-no-labels-looking-at-third-party-run-in-2024-with-joe-manchin/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 23, 2023, 12:52:26 AM
Report: ‘No Labels’ Looking at Third-Party Run in 2024 with Joe Manchin
JACOB BLISS  19 May 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2023/05/19/report-no-labels-looking-at-third-party-run-in-2024-with-joe-manchin/
Ha, ha, that will go far.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: TheGrinch on May 23, 2023, 08:51:56 AM
<seen>

Kristi Noem

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not since the pandora papers


Desantis is a CIA plant


LOL @ voting.. good luck with that
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 23, 2023, 07:47:17 PM
GOP mega-donor urges Trump to drop out of 2024 race, backs DeSantis: It's 'time' for next generation
FOX has confirmed Florida governor expected to announce 2024 bid Wednesday
By Madeline Coggins FOXBusiness
May 23, 2023
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/gop-megadonor-urges-trump-drop-out-of-2024-race-backs-desantis-next-generation
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 24, 2023, 02:04:27 AM
GOP mega-donor urges Trump to drop out of 2024 race, backs DeSantis: It's 'time' for next generation
FOX has confirmed Florida governor expected to announce 2024 bid Wednesday
By Madeline Coggins FOXBusiness
May 23, 2023
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/gop-megadonor-urges-trump-drop-out-of-2024-race-backs-desantis-next-generation
I kinda agree with him.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 24, 2023, 01:56:18 PM
I kinda agree with him.

I agree he should not run and support DeSantis, but I seriously doubt that happens.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 24, 2023, 02:00:49 PM
Ron DeSantis Files To Run For President
MARY LOU MASTERS
CONTRIBUTOR
May 24, 2023

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis filed paperwork with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) Wednesday to run for president in 2024.

DeSantis has been widely expected to jump in the Republican primaries for months and has consistently polled in the double digits alongside former President Donald Trump. The FEC filing comes ahead of his highly-anticipated presidential announcement at 6 p.m. Wednesday on Twitter Spaces with CEO Elon Musk, the Daily Caller News Foundation confirmed.

The governor has been traveling to key early primary states, touting his book “The Courage To Be Free” and pitching his “Florida Blueprint” agenda. DeSantis has already secured key endorsements from state legislators in Iowa, New Hampshire and Florida, as well as top Republicans in Congress like Reps. Chip Roy of Texas, Thomas Massie of Kentucky and Bob Good of Virginia.

DeSantis’ entrance into the Republican primaries comes after he wrapped up Florida’s legislative session filled with GOP-backed bills. The governor scored conservative wins on parental rights in education, school choice, gun rights, immigration, the death penalty, abortion and plenty more.

The governor changed his political Twitter account handle Monday, preceding with his imminent presidential launch. The governor’s account had previously been used for both Florida gubernatorial campaigns, so he dropped the “FL” from his handle “@RonDeSantisFL.”

On a private phone call last week held by Never Back Down, the political action committee tasked with drafting DeSantis into the race, DeSantis indicated that he is the only Republican contender who can win the GOP primary and beat President Joe Biden in a general election.

“You have basically three people at this point that are credible in this whole thing,” DeSantis said. “Biden, Trump and me. And I think of those three, two have a chance to get elected president — Biden and me, based on all the data in the swing states, which is not great for the former president and probably insurmountable because people aren’t going to change their view of him.”

The Real Clear Politics (RCP) average for a 2024 national Republican primary, based on polls conducted between April 21 and May 18, indicates that DeSantis has 19.4% support. (RELATED: ‘Stay Tuned’: Ron DeSantis Quietly Changes Twitter Handle Ahead Of Expected 2024 Run)

The governor joins a growing GOP primary field with former President Donald Trump, former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley, former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson, South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott, conservative businessman Vivek Ramaswamy and conservative radio personality Larry Elder, with former Vice President Mike Pence soon to follow.

DeSantis was elected to Congress in 2012 where he served until he narrowly won the governorship in 2018, beating former Democratic Mayor of Tallahassee Andrew Gillum 49.6% to 49.2%, according to Ballotpedia. The governor handily won reelection in 2022 by nearly 20 points, trouncing former Democratic Rep. Charlie Christ.

DeSantis’ political team confirmed the filing with the DCNF.

https://dailycaller.com/2023/05/24/ron-desantis-files-to-run-for-president/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking&pnespid=urJ2Gj5INr9A1OfRuja3DY2OsAPxTZ8pd_O7zOpoohxmVRCOQVyecxDsb_HlMlTl0O_0mx9a0A
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on May 24, 2023, 03:51:23 PM
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 25, 2023, 06:02:08 PM
CNN to host town hall with Pence amid 2024 speculation
BY JULIA SHAPERO - 05/25/23
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4020534-cnn-to-host-town-hall-with-pence-amid-2024-speculation/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: The Scott on May 25, 2023, 08:09:32 PM
CNN to host town hall with Pence amid 2024 speculation
BY JULIA SHAPERO - 05/25/23
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4020534-cnn-to-host-town-hall-with-pence-amid-2024-speculation/

Fuque Pence.  He is a traitor to our Nation.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 25, 2023, 08:43:11 PM
Fuque Pence.  He is a traitor to our Nation.

Had the balls to follow the constitution against desire of Trumps and insurrectionists trying to overthrow a legitimate election. Not sure where "our" nation is for you, but here in America, he should be give props for doing the right thing when many Republicans aren't capable of that
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 25, 2023, 09:56:44 PM
Had the balls to follow the constitution against desire of Trumps and insurrectionists trying to overthrow a legitimate election. Not sure where "our" nation is for you, but here in America, he should be give props for doing the right thing when many Republicans aren't capable of that

There were no insurrectionists, because there was no insurrection.  But don't let the facts get in the way of your left-wing talking point.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 25, 2023, 10:13:22 PM
DeSantis campaign says Florida governor hauled in $8.2 million in fundraising in first 24 hours
After meeting with top financial backers on Thursday, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis to campaign next week in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina
By Paul Steinhauser | Fox News
Published May 25, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-campaign-says-florida-governor-hauled-8-2-million-fundraising-first-24-hours
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on May 26, 2023, 12:49:34 AM
DeSantis campaign says Florida governor hauled in $8.2 million in fundraising in first 24 hours
After meeting with top financial backers on Thursday, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis to campaign next week in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina
By Paul Steinhauser | Fox News
Published May 25, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-campaign-says-florida-governor-hauled-8-2-million-fundraising-first-24-hours

But Trump raised $9M over the past 7 weeks, which is more than...oh wait...a changing of the guard?

OK, I'm not saying that the writing is on the wall, yet, but I will enjoy the Republican fracas.  I missed a lot of it in mid to late '15.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on May 26, 2023, 01:06:34 AM
CNN to host town hall with Pence amid 2024 speculation
BY JULIA SHAPERO - 05/25/23
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4020534-cnn-to-host-town-hall-with-pence-amid-2024-speculation/

Good for CNN and Republicans.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 28, 2023, 06:16:16 AM
Biden and McCarthy agree to raise debt ceiling...as if there was ever any doubt. Who still believes in this stuff enough to go vote for it? Neither "party" will reel in spending...the end of the dollar is the end of the country. The idea that they differ on social issues is just to divide people while they work the plan.

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on May 28, 2023, 08:48:21 AM
Had the balls to follow the constitution against desire of Trumps and insurrectionists trying to overthrow a legitimate election. Not sure where "our" nation is for you, but here in America, he should be give props for doing the right thing when many Republicans aren't capable of that
Interesting you would say something like that while democrats continue to push for mutilating our children, drug addiction and government dependence. But I guess that's "OK" because it's not a republican doing it, right? As long as it's "your side" you'll blindly slurp along and support anyone and anything with a D next to it. ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: The Scott on May 28, 2023, 09:19:17 AM
Interesting you would say something like that while democrats continue to push for mutilating our children, drug addiction and government dependence. But I guess that's "OK" because it's not a republican doing it, right? As long as it's "your side" you'll blindly slurp along and support anyone and anything with a D next to it. ::)

Forget him.  He's a phisherman and a registered Dem. Filth made flesh.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 28, 2023, 08:58:08 PM
Interesting you would say something like that while democrats continue to push for mutilating our children, drug addiction and government dependence. But I guess that's "OK" because it's not a republican doing it, right? As long as it's "your side" you'll blindly slurp along and support anyone and anything with a D next to it. ::)
I've no sides. Not sure where you are coming from but I am not for mutilating children. Love to hear examples. I am not for drug addiction though I know it is a real thing and calls for a myriad of potential solutions to address. Give me examples of how democrats are pushing for drug addiction. Government "Dependence" has been around even when the Republicans held the Office of the President, House and Senate. So please clue me in on the Democrats pushing it verse recognizing some people are struggling and as a country "Under God" tell me how we as a Christian nation should go forward addressing those in need
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: The Gov on May 29, 2023, 07:17:59 AM
I've no sides. Not sure where you are coming from but I am not for mutilating children. Love to hear examples. I am not for drug addiction though I know it is a real thing and calls for a myriad of potential solutions to address. Give me examples of how democrats are pushing for drug addiction. Government "Dependence" has been around even when the Republicans held the Office of the President, House and Senate. So please clue me in on the Democrats pushing it verse recognizing some people are struggling and as a country "Under God" tell me how we as a Christian nation should go forward addressing those in need

Are you living under a rock ?   by the way - how is your 401k doing now ? do you support a borderless border with 16K unvetted people coming over ever day ?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 29, 2023, 07:29:04 AM
I've no sides. Not sure where you are coming from but I am not for mutilating children. Love to hear examples??? WTF. I am not for drug addiction though I know it is a real thing and calls for a myriad of potential solutions to address. Give me examples of how democrats are pushing for drug addiction. Government "Dependence" has been around even when the Republicans held the Office of the President, House and Senate. So please clue me in on the Democrats pushing it verse recognizing some people are struggling and as a country "Under God" tell me how we as a Christian nation should go forward addressing those in need


There is nothing worse than a wishy washy apologist. Don't worry, with people like McCarthy in there you don't have to pretend to be "moderate" much longer. Like most leftists there is an undertone of disgust of the Christian founding of the country in your comments. It created the best standard of living in the world, it's laughable to hear coming from anyone over 25. In the end you think we somehow deserve to be knocked down a notch to some sort of world parity and the only result from that will not be transformative - it will be/and is destructive.

An open border is obviously allowing massive amounts of drugs to come here, and those illegal people coming here also dilutes our ability to take care of actual citizens in need. We are at the tipping point though of supporting those that don't put into the system. I don't think anyone is coming to "save us" so I  don't get excited about it. Nothing is going to change it, certainly not voting for another hand picked actor once every 4 years.

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on May 29, 2023, 07:42:39 AM
I've no sides. Not sure where you are coming from but I am not for mutilating children. Love to hear examples. I am not for drug addiction though I know it is a real thing and calls for a myriad of potential solutions to address. Give me examples of how democrats are pushing for drug addiction. Government "Dependence" has been around even when the Republicans held the Office of the President, House and Senate. So please clue me in on the Democrats pushing it verse recognizing some people are struggling and as a country "Under God" tell me how we as a Christian nation should go forward addressing those in need
Of course you have a side, you openly and constantly attack republicans and Trump, therefore you are a democrat. If me mocking you Trump haters means I support Trump, it's only fair the same energy applies to you guys. Or are we to ignore that and play by the typical hypocritical democrat rules?
As far as the democrats, and by your support of them, you, supporting mutilating children, take a look at some of the policies being put in place in democrat cities and states allowing children to seek out "transforming drugs and support"
Again with the drug addiction, maybe if San Fransisco spent the same money on getting people clean and sober and providing safe places for them to go to get sober instead of providing them clean needles and supervised shoot up buildings, it wouldn't be the shithole it is today due to democrat policies. If that doesn't help you, how about you look at the state of Los Angeles, same democratic shithole policies.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: The Scott on May 29, 2023, 11:29:41 AM
Of course you have a side, you openly and constantly attack republicans and Trump, therefore you are a democrat. If me mocking you Trump haters means I support Trump, it's only fair the same energy applies to you guys. Or are we to ignore that and play by the typical hypocritical democrat rules?
As far as the democrats, and by your support of them, you, supporting mutilating children, take a look at some of the policies being put in place in democrat cities and states allowing children to seek out "transforming drugs and support"
Again with the drug addiction, maybe if San Fransisco spent the same money on getting people clean and sober and providing safe places for them to go to get sober instead of providing them clean needles and supervised shoot up buildings, it wouldn't be the shithole it is today due to democrat policies. If that doesn't help you, how about you look at the state of Los Angeles, same democratic shithole policies.

Well said, brother!  Never forgive them and never forget why.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on May 29, 2023, 05:53:03 PM
I agree he should not run and support DeSantis, but I seriously doubt that happens.

I agree. Trump will not willingly drop out of the election. He has a history of not conceding if it could remotely be seen as failure. His ego will not let him do this. There are a few circumstances where he may not make it to the general. One is if the GOP does not nominate him. This could happen especially if he loses enough support from his base. Also, he currently appears vulnerable because of his many legal problems, i.e., too much baggage. I doubt he is in good health either physically or mentally. He is ripe for a stroke.

My fear is that if he ends up being the front runner against Biden and he loses again, he won't concede the election and there will be upheaval much like there was in 2020. This is something this country does not need because it won’t Make America  Great Again in the eyes of the rest of the world.     
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 29, 2023, 06:40:25 PM
I've no sides. Not sure where you are coming from but I am not for mutilating children. Love to hear examples.

"Gender affirming care," which includes giving puberty blockers to kids, amputating the penis and balls of boys, amputating the breasts of girls, and performing hysterectomies on girls. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on May 29, 2023, 07:34:55 PM
"Gender affirming care," which includes giving puberty blockers to kids, amputating the penis and balls of boys, amputating the breasts of girls, and performing hysterectomies on girls.

If a person is born intersex (hermaphroditism), do you think that person's parents should subject them to being physically altered to become either physically male or female via surgery and hormone therapy? With intersex folks, this sometimes becomes an issue during puberty.  Or should the person with hermaphroditism, if they chose, be allowed continue through life as being neither physically and most likely also emotionally exclusively male or female? At what age (within a range since people become emotionally and intellectually mature at varying ages) should they be allowed to make this choice for themselves?

When a child is convinced that they were born the wrong gender and wants to become the gender they believe they were meant to be, is it caused by circumstances, mental health, or a form of hysteria wherein they convince themselves they cannot continue to live in a body they believe is the wrong gender. Societal norms often demonstrate intolerance toward someone being not "all boy" or "all girl' when in fact the emotional difference between the two sexes is not so vastly different than many folks like to believe it is as this varies from person to person within a broad spectrum. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 30, 2023, 11:13:51 AM
If a person is born intersex (hermaphroditism), do you think that person's parents should subject them to being physically altered to become either physically male or female via surgery and hormone therapy? With intersex folks, this sometimes becomes an issue during puberty.  Or should the person with hermaphroditism, if they chose, be allowed continue through life as being neither physically and most likely also emotionally exclusively male or female? At what age (within a range since people become emotionally and intellectually mature at varying ages) should they be allowed to make this choice for themselves?

When a child is convinced that they were born the wrong gender and wants to become the gender they believe they were meant to be, is it caused by circumstances, mental health, or a form of hysteria wherein they convince themselves they cannot continue to live in a body they believe is the wrong gender. Societal norms often demonstrate intolerance toward someone being not "all boy" or "all girl' when in fact the emotional difference between the two sexes is not so vastly different than many folks like to believe it is as this varies from person to person within a broad spectrum.

The 1 percent or less of kids who are born intersex should get whatever treatment their parents authorize. 

This "gender affirming care" movement has nothing to do with intersex kids, who are born with physical abnormalities.  This is about cutting off the balls of a healthy boy or removing a healthy uterus from a girl.  Without parental consent.  You down with that? 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 30, 2023, 11:22:39 AM
Chris Christie easing into likely presidential campaign with super PAC
By Josh Christenson
May 30, 2023
https://nypost.com/2023/05/30/chris-christie-eases-into-2024-prez-campaign-with-super-pac/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 30, 2023, 11:50:11 AM
Chris Christie easing into likely presidential campaign with super PAC
By Josh Christenson
May 30, 2023
https://nypost.com/2023/05/30/chris-christie-eases-into-2024-prez-campaign-with-super-pac/


LOL. The GOP is trying to lose as hard as possible.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 30, 2023, 11:30:11 PM

LOL. The GOP is trying to lose as hard as possible.

I would say Fat Man has pretty close to zero percent chance of being the nominee.  His window closed a long time ago.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on May 31, 2023, 01:29:34 PM
Mike Pence To Launch 2024 Presidential Campaign In Iowa Next Week
ARJUN SINGH
CONTRIBUTOR
May 31, 2023
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Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on May 31, 2023, 05:01:15 PM
The 1 percent or less of kids who are born intersex should get whatever treatment their parents authorize. 

This "gender affirming care" movement has nothing to do with intersex kids, who are born with physical abnormalities.  This is about cutting off the balls of a healthy boy or removing a healthy uterus from a girl.  Without parental consent.  You down with that?

What did I say that makes you think I am 'down with that'.

Have you read Middlesex? Aside from life threatening genetic issues, which being intersex is not, gender reassignment should only be available to the adults who chose it for themselves.

The brain finishes developing and maturing in the mid-to-late 20s. The part of the brain behind the forehead, called the prefrontal cortex, is one of the last parts to mature. This area is responsible for skills like planning, prioritizing, and making good decisions. If my child wanted sexual reassignment surgery, I would not consent; and I believe it should not be allowed without my consent.

Native Americans have often held intersex, androgynous people, feminine males and masculine females in high respect. IMO parents and other adults should encourage young impressionable folks appreciate themselves as they are instead of how they or others think they should be. Every human is unique which is exactly how it should be. If we were all alike, we may as well be robots.

 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on May 31, 2023, 05:21:35 PM
Mike Pence To Launch 2024 Presidential Campaign In Iowa Next Week
ARJUN SINGH
CONTRIBUTOR
May 31, 2023
https://dailycaller.com/2023/05/31/mike-pence-to-launch-2024-presidential-campaign-in-iowa-next-week/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking&pnespid=q799VHhGLPsQ1fjEr27vSMyJukKkVptsPLen3ety.hFmAdd7ymJL7V_IHvqngl8VKsy4mNjN5A
I would vote for Newsom before I voted for Pence. Dude is just blah.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 01, 2023, 12:44:36 PM
What did I say that makes you think I am 'down with that'.

Have you read Middlesex? Aside from life threatening genetic issues, which being intersex is not, gender reassignment should only be available to the adults who chose it for themselves.

The brain finishes developing and maturing in the mid-to-late 20s. The part of the brain behind the forehead, called the prefrontal cortex, is one of the last parts to mature. This area is responsible for skills like planning, prioritizing, and making good decisions. If my child wanted sexual reassignment surgery, I would not consent; and I believe it should not be allowed without my consent.

Native Americans have often held intersex, androgynous people, feminine males and masculine females in high respect. IMO parents and other adults should encourage young impressionable folks appreciate themselves as they are instead of how they or others think they should be. Every human is unique which is exactly how it should be. If we were all alike, we may as well be robots.


The fact you appear to be saying this "gender affirming care"/transgender movement is related to intersex kids born with abnormalities.  I'm not sure why you are attempting to conflate these issues, when they are unrelated, instead of being abhorred by the Frankenstein-like butchering of kids through "gender affirming care."
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 01, 2023, 01:00:41 PM
Mike Pence To Launch 2024 Presidential Campaign In Iowa Next Week
ARJUN SINGH
CONTRIBUTOR
May 31, 2023
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Again,...LOL. The GOP is trying to lose as hard as possible.

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 01, 2023, 01:01:25 PM
Biden not making it.   Another fall. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 01, 2023, 01:58:11 PM

Again,...LOL. The GOP is trying to lose as hard as possible.

I don't see a problem with people running.  I don't think Pence can win.  It's really a two-horse race between Trump and DeSantis. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on June 01, 2023, 02:56:04 PM
The fact you appear to be saying this "gender affirming care"/transgender movement is related to intersex kids born with abnormalities.  I'm not sure why you are attempting to conflate these issues, when they are unrelated, instead of being abhorred by the Frankenstein-like butchering of kids through "gender affirming care."

Another BS term they are trying to normalize through constant repetition.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 01, 2023, 03:04:29 PM
Another BS term they are trying to normalize through constant repetition.

Happens all the time.  That's why all news outlets use the term "migrants" instead of "immigrants."  Why the word "sex" has been supplanted by "gender."  Replacing "heterosexual" with "cisgender." 

Just look at some of the insane things these people are pushing, like replacing "breast feeding" with "chest feeding."  It's psychotic.   

But you know why they keep doing it?  Because it works.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on June 01, 2023, 03:22:10 PM
Happens all the time.  That's why all news outlets use the term "migrants" instead of "immigrants."  Why the word "sex" has been supplanted by "gender."  Replacing "heterosexual" with "cisgender." 

Just look at some of the insane things these people are pushing, like replacing "breast feeding" with "chest feeding."  It's psychotic.   

But you know why they keep doing it?  Because it works.

"Birthing people".

I think it is important to actively resist using or accepting these neologisms and phrases; it is a form of Newspeak. But most news outlets are owned by big media corporations that control the narrative and dictate the exact vocabulary and even grammar to be used and that's why you see this happening:



Alas people become complacent and just parrot the language they hear or read in media without even realizing it.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on June 01, 2023, 06:08:37 PM
Happens all the time.  That's why all news outlets use the term "migrants" instead of "immigrants."  Why the word "sex" has been supplanted by "gender."  Replacing "heterosexual" with "cisgender." 

Just look at some of the insane things these people are pushing, like replacing "breast feeding" with "chest feeding."  It's psychotic.   

But you know why they keep doing it?  Because it works.

The Left controlling language.

You can find your favorite Democratic lawmakers and presidents using the correct term, “illegal aliens,” just over 10 years ago.

To ameliorate the perception we have of illegals, it morphed to “undocumented immigrants,” then to “immigrants,” and now “migrants” or “asylum seekers.”  ::)




Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on June 01, 2023, 06:45:29 PM
The fact you appear to be saying this "gender affirming care"/transgender movement is related to intersex kids born with abnormalities.  I'm not sure why you are attempting to conflate these issues, when they are unrelated, instead of being abhorred by the Frankenstein-like butchering of kids through "gender affirming care."

Whatever. It appears you enjoy being argumentative, because was not what I said, no matter how it you think it ‘appears’.  I oppose "gender-affirming care" for anyone who is not mature enough to make that decision for themselves. People are legally recognized as adults at the age of 18. Science suggests that most people don't reach full maturity until the age of 25.
 
It appears you are taking cues for Ron DeSantis.  At a press briefing briefing DeSantis said, "But what it is, is they're literally chopping off the private parts of young kids, and that's wrong."

Dr. Jack Turban, assistant professor of child and adolescent psychiatry at the University of California, San Francisco. "No medical or surgical interventions are considered for prepubertal children."

Genital reassignment surgery should be reserved for those 18 and older, according to guidelines for the medical care of transgender patients developed by the Endocrine Society and the World Professional Association for Transgender Health. This is consistent with what I believe.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on June 01, 2023, 06:47:51 PM
Happens all the time.  That's why all news outlets use the term "migrants" instead of "immigrants."  Why the word "sex" has been supplanted by "gender."  Replacing "heterosexual" with "cisgender." 

Just look at some of the insane things these people are pushing, like replacing "breast feeding" with "chest feeding."  It's psychotic.   

But you know why they keep doing it?  Because it works.

To answer your question about the terms news outlets use, language and word choices are fluid and always have been.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 02, 2023, 05:48:05 PM
"Birthing people".

I think it is important to actively resist using or accepting these neologisms and phrases; it is a form of Newspeak. But most news outlets are owned by big media corporations that control the narrative and dictate the exact vocabulary and even grammar to be used and that's why you see this happening:



Alas people become complacent and just parrot the language they hear or read in media without even realizing it.

That "birthing people" thing is nuts too. 

I agree with resisting.  I try and do it, but it might be too late already. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 02, 2023, 05:49:52 PM
The Left controlling language.

You can find your favorite Democratic lawmakers and presidents using the correct term, “illegal aliens,” just over 10 years ago.

To ameliorate the perception we have of illegals, it morphed to “undocumented immigrants,” then to “immigrants,” and now “migrants” or “asylum seekers.”  ::)





Truth.  And they try and call you a xenophobe if you use the phrase illegal alien.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 02, 2023, 05:58:47 PM
Whatever. It appears you enjoy being argumentative, because was not what I said, no matter how it you think it ‘appears’.  I oppose "gender-affirming care" for anyone who is not mature enough to make that decision for themselves. People are legally recognized as adults at the age of 18. Science suggests that most people don't reach full maturity until the age of 25.
 
It appears you are taking cues for Ron DeSantis.  At a press briefing briefing DeSantis said, "But what it is, is they're literally chopping off the private parts of young kids, and that's wrong."

Dr. Jack Turban, assistant professor of child and adolescent psychiatry at the University of California, San Francisco. "No medical or surgical interventions are considered for prepubertal children."

Genital reassignment surgery should be reserved for those 18 and older, according to guidelines for the medical care of transgender patients developed by the Endocrine Society and the World Professional Association for Transgender Health. This is consistent with what I believe.

I'm not arguing about anything.  You are the one who brought up intersex kids who are born with abnormalities when the subject was "gender affirming care."   

I'm glad Governor DeSantis agrees with me. 

And there you go cherrypicking something you grabbed off the internet.  I'm sure if you search a tad bit harder you will find stories about "gender affirming care" being done for minors.  That "gender affirming care" includes surgery and puberty blockers.  I just heard a discussion on a podcast where they said a boy who is given puberty blockers winds up with a tiny penis that stops growing.  How friggin twisted is that?? 

Also, there is no such thing as "genital reassignment surgery."  Cutting off the twig and berries of a boy and creating a fake vagina does not, from a medical and scientific standpoint, change that boy's sex to a girl.  He's still a biological boy.  Same with girls who have "top surgery" (i.e., amputating their breasts), cutting off skin to create a fake penis, having a hysterectomy, etc.  She is still a biological girl. 

I don't care what adults do.  If a grown man wants to cut off his balls and call himself a woman, he should be able to do that.  I will actually refer to him (or her) by whatever he or she wants to be called.  But this entire issue is about kids.  I can't believe this is even being discussed.  It's like a bad horror movie. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 02, 2023, 06:52:52 PM
If the GOP can't prosecute Hunter Biden with the mountains of proof out there what makes them think anyone would vote for them? They have no spine and they aren't conservative about anything. McCarthy is just another Boehner, folded up like a lawnchair on the debt ceiling. Waste of time spending energy getting upset about it.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 07, 2023, 12:02:05 AM
Jack Dorsey Endorses RFK Jr for 2024 despite Pushing the Same Censorship Dem Candidate Vowed to Abolish
By: Jason Walsh
June 5, 2023
https://www.dailyfetched.com/jack-dorsey-endorses-rfk-jr-for-2024-despite-pushing-the-same-censorship-dem-candidate-vowed-to-abolish/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 07, 2023, 12:02:56 AM
Mike Pence Files Paperwork to Enter 2024 Presidential Race
By Joseph Lord
Updated: June 5, 2023
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mike-pence-files-papers-to-run-for-president_5313304.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=BonginoReport
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 07, 2023, 12:13:58 AM
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Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on June 07, 2023, 12:28:32 PM
Some Republicans are talking loudly about the need to defeat Trump.  Chris Christie has been arguably the most critical of Trump so far and formally kicked off his bid Tuesday. Christie took aim at Trump in 2016—and then endorsed him. Several prominent Republican figures who have vocally criticized Trump from a more traditional GOP posture in recent years have been rejected in party primaries.

This year is starting to feel a lot like 2016, a primary field that contains Trump and all the other not-Trump candidates. The only difference between this contest and 2016 is that other candidates ran individuals and not weaker versions of Trump. This is possibly because the current crop of candidates have seen polling which shows the GOP base continues to struggle with a pronounced case of brain worms with regards to the who won the 2020 election. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 07, 2023, 12:47:13 PM
North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum enters presidential race
06/07/2023
https://www.politico.com/video/2023/06/07/north-dakota-gov-doug-burgum-enters-presidential-race-935477
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 07, 2023, 12:49:24 PM
I think a number of candidates are looking at the possibility of political prosecutions/persecutions of Trump may result in him dropping out of the race.  I doubt that happens, but would not surprise me to see the DOJ and Georgia pursue some kind of criminal charges. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on June 07, 2023, 01:54:59 PM
I think a number of candidates are looking at the possibility of political prosecutions/persecutions of Trump may result in him dropping out of the race.  I doubt that happens, but would not surprise me to see the DOJ and Georgia pursue some kind of criminal charges.

Current media suggests the ball is about to drop on Trump. We will see if it hits or misses him.

My suspicion is that folks, including a lot of Republican voters are tired and somewhat bored with the constant controversy and turmoil and chaos surrounding him as well as his one note - 'poor me', 'stolen election' whining, instead of talking about the issues that concern folks today and his going forward plans for improvements.

All the while his most likely nemesis, Biden is all over the media because he brokered the debt ceiling limit passage with ‘yeah’ votes from 165 Democrats and 149 Republicans and ‘nays’ from 71 Republicans and 46 Democrats . The Senate vote was 63 to 36.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 07, 2023, 02:37:15 PM
Current media suggests the ball is about to drop on Trump. We will see if it hits or misses him.

My suspicion is that folks, including a lot of Republican voters are tired and somewhat bored with the constant controversy and turmoil and chaos surrounding him as well as his one note - 'poor me', 'stolen election' whining, instead of talking about the issues that concern folks today and his going forward plans for improvements.

All the while his most likely nemesis, Biden is all over the media because he brokered the debt ceiling limit passage with ‘yeah’ votes from 165 Democrats and 149 Republicans and ‘nays’ from 71 Republicans and 46 Democrats . The Senate vote was 63 to 36.

Part of the partisan political persecution of Trump, which has been nonstop since 2016, creates fatigue with some voters.  So yes, some voters will get tired of the controversy, even though it's largely Banana Republic, partisan BS.

But it also has the opposite effect of solidifying his support, because people don't like this kind of unfairness.  Just look at the bump he got after the New York indictment.  We may see the same thing if the DOJ indicts him and not Biden.   
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on June 07, 2023, 03:10:35 PM
Part of the partisan political persecution of Trump, which has been nonstop since 2016, creates fatigue with some voters.  So yes, some voters will get tired of the controversy, even though it's largely Banana Republic, partisan BS.

But it also has the opposite effect of solidifying his support, because people don't like this kind of unfairness.  Just look at the bump he got after the New York indictment.  We may see the same thing if the DOJ indicts him and not Biden.

DOJ will not indict Biden or Pence. Trump is a self-avowed martyr. There will always be people who are sympathetic toward someone who is maligned or believes they have been. Do you suppose this is why he brings much of this on himself? 
 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 07, 2023, 03:20:08 PM
DOJ will not indict Biden or Pence. Trump is a self-avowed martyr. There will always be people who are sympathetic toward someone who is maligned or believes they have been. Do you suppose this is why he brings much of this on himself?

The Biden DOJ will not indict Biden.  But the Biden DOJ will indict Biden's chief political opponent.  Totally normal. 

Trump doesn't bring the abuse of the FBI, the courts, intelligence agencies, the media, etc. on himself.  They are just corrupt. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on June 07, 2023, 04:33:24 PM
The Biden DOJ will not indict Biden.  But the Biden DOJ will indict Biden's chief political opponent.  Totally normal. 

Trump doesn't bring the abuse of the FBI, the courts, intelligence agencies, the media, etc. on himself.  They are just corrupt.

Donald Trump vows to escalate attacks against Alvin Bragg

The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › us-news › apr › donal...
Apr 2, 2023

Apr 3, 2023 — Donald Trump said on Monday evening that Alvin Bragg should "INDICT HIMSELF."

Donald Trump Calls Special Counsel Investigating Him a 'Terrorist'
BY EWAN PALMER ON 1/13/23 AT 4:21 AM EST

Apr 5, 2023 — Trump called Smith a “lunatic” during a speech at Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday and suggested Smith isn't his real name or is an alias.

“The Special 'Prosecutor,' Jack Smith, who is harassing, threatening, and terrorizing people who work for me, probably illegally, and totally at odds with the way Crooked Joe Biden is being treated, will no longer be known as the Special 'Prosecutor,' but rather, the Special 'Persecutor,’” Trump wrote in a post early Saturday morning. “He is a Trump Hating SLIMEBALL who is going far beyond the original instructions of the Department of Injustice. The Witch Hunt continues, as it always will, with the Radical Left, Country Destroying, Lunatics!"

Although Jack Smith and George Bragg should be immune to Trump's tirades and insults, people are people, and he is doing himself no favors here. Whether they deserve the 'upper hand' or not they still have it. At this point, if Trump didn't write and say these things, he would be better off. It makes no difference if there is truth in his comments.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: The Scott on June 07, 2023, 06:28:46 PM
Hey Cucks!

You worthless piles of Democratic shit have absolutely no concern for our Nation's Children or Civilization in general.
Soooo...

FYYFF!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 08, 2023, 08:17:56 PM
Data: Trump Trounces DeSantis, Beats Biden, and Would Obliterate Kamala Harris.
JACK MONTGOMERY

A major poll by the Democracy Institute contains bad news for the Biden regime, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, and even Prince Harry. The poll does, however, contain plenty of good news for former President Donald Trump.

Likely U.S. voters – 37 percent Democrats, 35 percent Republicans, and 28 percent Independents – were asked a range of questions from May 24th to May 26th, with their answers suggesting America in 2023 is “MAGA Country”. The data shows:

Trump is preferred to DeSantis as the Republican nominee by 57 percent to 22 percent. None of the also-rans such as Nikki Haley or Mike Pence even managed to break five percent.
Trump is favored over Biden in a head-to-head, 47 percent to 44 percent, whereas DeSantis trails Biden head-to-head, 44 percent to 46 percent.
Trump is favored over Kamala Harris even more strongly, 49 percent to 38 percent.
Interestingly, the 45th President was also respondents’ first choice when asked who they would most like to have as a house guest, at 41 percent. Biden trailed in at 19 percent, slightly ahead of DeSantis at 15 percent. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. actually came in at number two, on 25 percent.

Biden’s own results were dire across the board. He is:

Deemed a worse President than Trump by 57 percent to 38 percent;
Deemed mentally and physically incapable of governing by 57 percent;
Deemed to be handling the economy poorly (say 63 percent), foreign policy badly (say 61 percent), and inept on Ukraine (say 55 percent).
Asked whether Biden losing power in America or Putin losing power in Russia would be a better scenario for America, 54 percent opted for Biden’s ouster.

On a perhaps less serious note, 52 percent of Americans said Prince Harry should be denied U.S. residency.

https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/06/07/data-trump-trounces-desantis-beats-biden-and-would-obliterate-kamala-harris/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 11, 2023, 09:39:05 PM
The Biden DOJ will not indict Biden.  But the Biden DOJ will indict Biden's chief political opponent.  Totally normal. 

Trump doesn't bring the abuse of the FBI, the courts, intelligence agencies, the media, etc. on himself.  They are just corrupt.

Have you had a chance to read the timeline recently reported on Trumps possession of and failure to return the classified documents? It really looks like, given his own attorneys notes of some of the meetings, that he actually did bring this upon himself.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 12, 2023, 11:46:26 AM
Have you had a chance to read the timeline recently reported on Trumps possession of and failure to return the classified documents? It really looks like, given his own attorneys notes of some of the meetings, that he actually did bring this upon himself.

Yes I have.  This is absolute partisan, unconstitutional, unlawful, Banana Republic BS.  A POTUS is trying to put his chief political rival in prison for life.  Think about that.  So no, Trump didn’t bring this on himself.  He has been unfairly targeted and investigated since 2016.  (I didn’t vote for him in 2016.).  And you know why it keeps happening?  Because they can get away with it.  Just like the Russian Manchurian Candidate crap.  Conclusively shown that it was BS.  But who was held accountable? 

And they are so emboldened now that they don’t give a rip about the hypocrisy involving Clinton and Biden, who did far worse than Trump.  They get cover from the media and Congressional Democrats.  Republicans are a spineless lot, so they aren’t going to do anything.  I expect the Georgia prosecutor to indict next.

What you will notice is that the indictment and none of the liberal mainstream media mention or discuss the Presidential Records Act, which allows a POTUS to retain records when they leave, regardless of classification.  But I expect this to be resolved by the Supreme Court, if they don’t act like cowards again.

Did you happen to review the timing of the Biden bribery allegations and the timing of the Trump indictment?  Do you think that was a coincidence? 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on June 12, 2023, 04:15:18 PM
Yes I have.  This is absolute partisan, unconstitutional, unlawful, Banana Republic BS.  A POTUS is trying to put his chief political rival in prison for life.  Think about that.  So no, Trump didn’t bring this on himself.  He has been unfairly targeted and investigated since 2016.  (I didn’t vote for him in 2016.).  And you know why it keeps happening?  Because they can get away with it.  Just like the Russian Manchurian Candidate crap.  Conclusively shown that it was BS.  But who was held accountable? 

And they are so emboldened now that they don’t give a rip about the hypocrisy involving Clinton and Biden, who did far worse than Trump.  They get cover from the media and Congressional Democrats.  Republicans are a spineless lot, so they aren’t going to do anything.  I expect the Georgia prosecutor to indict next.

What you will notice is that the indictment and none of the liberal mainstream media mention or discuss the Presidential Records Act, which allows a POTUS to retain records when they leave, regardless of classification.  But I expect this to be resolved by the Supreme Court, if they don’t act like cowards again.

Did you happen to review the timing of the Biden bribery allegations and the timing of the Trump indictment?  Do you think that was a coincidence?
We've invaded countries with oil for less.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 12, 2023, 06:59:04 PM
Have you had a chance to read the timeline recently reported on Trumps possession of and failure to return the classified documents? It really looks like, given his own attorneys notes of some of the meetings, that he actually did bring this upon himself.


Biden did the same thing but press covered it up with the China balloon story. Shit is wack.

Of course there is also proof of millions going to the Biden family related to docs but nothing happened to Hillary for the same "crime".

This stuff is just entertainment for people with an IQ a little higher than sportsball fans. I'm sure of it now. The writing is terrible so they ramp up the level of scandal.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 12, 2023, 08:38:56 PM

Biden did the same thing but press covered it up with the China balloon story. Shit is wack.

Of course there is also proof of millions going to the Biden family related to docs but nothing happened to Hillary for the same "crime".

This stuff is just entertainment for people with an IQ a little higher than sportsball fans. I'm sure of it now. The writing is terrible so they ramp up the level of scandal.

Simply an untrue statement. Biden cooperated, had a lot fewer documents, but mainly, he cooperated. had Trump done the same he wouldn't have been indicted. He didn't. So it is NOT the same. Trump, per the evidence, brought this upon himself. Hell its not even debatable
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 12, 2023, 08:51:11 PM
Yes I have.  This is absolute partisan, unconstitutional, unlawful, Banana Republic BS.  A POTUS is trying to put his chief political rival in prison for life.  Think about that.  So no, Trump didn’t bring this on himself.  He has been unfairly targeted and investigated since 2016.  (I didn’t vote for him in 2016.).  And you know why it keeps happening?  Because they can get away with it.  Just like the Russian Manchurian Candidate crap.  Conclusively shown that it was BS.  But who was held accountable? 

And they are so emboldened now that they don’t give a rip about the hypocrisy involving Clinton and Biden, who did far worse than Trump.  They get cover from the media and Congressional Democrats.  Republicans are a spineless lot, so they aren’t going to do anything.  I expect the Georgia prosecutor to indict next.

What you will notice is that the indictment and none of the liberal mainstream media mention or discuss the Presidential Records Act, which allows a POTUS to retain records when they leave, regardless of classification.  But I expect this to be resolved by the Supreme Court, if they don’t act like cowards again.

Did you happen to review the timing of the Biden bribery allegations and the timing of the Trump indictment?  Do you think that was a coincidence?

Code for
If the Supreme Court rules differently than what I believe, even if what I believe goes against the majority of experts opinions, then I will simply dismiss their ruling as cowardice rather than correct as is common practice among Trump advocates
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 12, 2023, 09:10:00 PM
Yes I have.  This is absolute partisan, unconstitutional, unlawful, Banana Republic BS.  A POTUS is trying to put his chief political rival in prison for life.  Think about that.  So no, Trump didn’t bring this on himself.  He has been unfairly targeted and investigated since 2016.  (I didn’t vote for him in 2016.).  And you know why it keeps happening?  Because they can get away with it.  Just like the Russian Manchurian Candidate crap.  Conclusively shown that it was BS.  But who was held accountable? 

And they are so emboldened now that they don’t give a rip about the hypocrisy involving Clinton and Biden, who did far worse than Trump.  They get cover from the media and Congressional Democrats.  Republicans are a spineless lot, so they aren’t going to do anything.  I expect the Georgia prosecutor to indict next.

What you will notice is that the indictment and none of the liberal mainstream media mention or discuss the Presidential Records Act, which allows a POTUS to retain records when they leave, regardless of classification.  But I expect this to be resolved by the Supreme Court, if they don’t act like cowards again.

Did you happen to review the timing of the Biden bribery allegations and the timing of the Trump indictment?  Do you think that was a coincidence?

The Presidential Records Act, or PRA, governs the maintenance of presidential records. It was passed in 1978, after former President Richard Nixon sought to destroy recordings made in the White House that documented activities related to the Watergate scandal, David S. Ferriero, archivist of the United States who is in charge of NARA, explained in a 2017 publication for the National Archives.

When a president leaves office, the archivist takes custody of the records from that administration and is responsible for their preservation and for providing access to the public, according to a Congressional Research Service report.

“The Presidential Records Act requires that all records created by presidents be turned over to the National Archives at the end of their administrations,” NARA said in its Jan. 31 statement.

Jason R. Baron, a professor at the University of Maryland and former director of litigation at NARA, cited the PRA when we asked him to evaluate Fitton’s claim. The PRA was “enacted to ensure that the American people — not the president — own records created or received by a president when in office,” he told us by email.

“A president has no legal right to tear up, shred, or otherwise dispose of copies of records that he creates or receives while in office (including his own notes or annotations on documents concerning official business),” Baron said.

He noted that the PRA allows a sitting president to dispose of official records only after consulting with the archivist.

Baron also said that a president doesn’t have “the right to decide for himself that he will take boxes containing presidential records to his own residence after he leaves office, even if it is allegedly for the purpose of transferring them to a presidential library.”

“The PRA specifies that upon the conclusion of a president’s time in office, the Archivist assumes legal control of presidential records, and the Archivist alone is empowered to decide where those records will be housed,” Baron said.

Kel McClanahan, a professor at the George Washington University Law School and executive director of the public interest law firm National Security Counselors, had a similar but slightly different take.

He honed in on an issue that was also noted in the CRS report, which cited Ferriero’s 2017 article. The report explained that the PRA allows for personal records to be classified separately from official presidential records and that “the President has a high degree of discretion over what materials are to be preserved under the PRA.”

So, McClanahan said, Fitton technically has a point when saying, “A president has discretion on what docs to retain as presidential records while in office.”

But, in this case, that’s a moot point, since both NARA and Trump have referred to the recently recovered material as official presidential records.

Trump issued a statement on Feb. 10 saying that some of the materials would eventually be displayed in his presidential library. “It was a great honor to work with NARA to help formally preserve the Trump Legacy,” the statement said.

So, given Trump’s acknowledgement that the materials were designated as presidential records under the PRA, it would appear to be a violation to leave office with them.

“Bottom line,” McClanahan said, “if Trump believed these were presidential records, he couldn’t freely take them with him as Fitton said. And if he didn’t believe they were presidential records, then they wouldn’t go in his Presidential Library as Trump claimed. So either Fitton or Trump can be speaking truthfully, but not both.”

McClanahan also noted that Fitton wasn’t specific about which law he was talking about. The destruction of presidential records could be a violation of two other federal laws that protect records and other government property, he said.

We reached out to Judicial Watch for clarification, but we didn’t hear back.

The Washington Post, which was the first news outlet to report on the boxes recovered from Mar-a-Lago, noted that all recent presidential administrations have had some PRA violations, although most have involved the use of unofficial email accounts and phones.

In a statement addressing the current situation, Ferriero said, “NARA pursues the return of records whenever we learn that records have been improperly removed or have not been appropriately transferred to official accounts.”

NARA had worked with representatives for Trump over the course of 2021 to find records that hadn’t been transferred, according to a statement from the administration. In December, one of those representatives identified the recently recovered boxes and “NARA arranged for them to be securely transported to Washington,” the statement says.


Having read all that, I would assume most laymen would have no problem with whatever the Supreme Court decides, but especially if they rule what he did was a violation.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 13, 2023, 12:16:07 AM
The Presidential Records Act, or PRA, governs the maintenance of presidential records. It was passed in 1978, after former President Richard Nixon sought to destroy recordings made in the White House that documented activities related to the Watergate scandal, David S. Ferriero, archivist of the United States who is in charge of NARA, explained in a 2017 publication for the National Archives.

When a president leaves office, the archivist takes custody of the records from that administration and is responsible for their preservation and for providing access to the public, according to a Congressional Research Service report.

“The Presidential Records Act requires that all records created by presidents be turned over to the National Archives at the end of their administrations,” NARA said in its Jan. 31 statement.

Jason R. Baron, a professor at the University of Maryland and former director of litigation at NARA, cited the PRA when we asked him to evaluate Fitton’s claim. The PRA was “enacted to ensure that the American people — not the president — own records created or received by a president when in office,” he told us by email.

“A president has no legal right to tear up, shred, or otherwise dispose of copies of records that he creates or receives while in office (including his own notes or annotations on documents concerning official business),” Baron said.

He noted that the PRA allows a sitting president to dispose of official records only after consulting with the archivist.

Baron also said that a president doesn’t have “the right to decide for himself that he will take boxes containing presidential records to his own residence after he leaves office, even if it is allegedly for the purpose of transferring them to a presidential library.”

“The PRA specifies that upon the conclusion of a president’s time in office, the Archivist assumes legal control of presidential records, and the Archivist alone is empowered to decide where those records will be housed,” Baron said.

Kel McClanahan, a professor at the George Washington University Law School and executive director of the public interest law firm National Security Counselors, had a similar but slightly different take.

He honed in on an issue that was also noted in the CRS report, which cited Ferriero’s 2017 article. The report explained that the PRA allows for personal records to be classified separately from official presidential records and that “the President has a high degree of discretion over what materials are to be preserved under the PRA.”

So, McClanahan said, Fitton technically has a point when saying, “A president has discretion on what docs to retain as presidential records while in office.”

But, in this case, that’s a moot point, since both NARA and Trump have referred to the recently recovered material as official presidential records.

Trump issued a statement on Feb. 10 saying that some of the materials would eventually be displayed in his presidential library. “It was a great honor to work with NARA to help formally preserve the Trump Legacy,” the statement said.

So, given Trump’s acknowledgement that the materials were designated as presidential records under the PRA, it would appear to be a violation to leave office with them.

“Bottom line,” McClanahan said, “if Trump believed these were presidential records, he couldn’t freely take them with him as Fitton said. And if he didn’t believe they were presidential records, then they wouldn’t go in his Presidential Library as Trump claimed. So either Fitton or Trump can be speaking truthfully, but not both.”

McClanahan also noted that Fitton wasn’t specific about which law he was talking about. The destruction of presidential records could be a violation of two other federal laws that protect records and other government property, he said.

We reached out to Judicial Watch for clarification, but we didn’t hear back.

The Washington Post, which was the first news outlet to report on the boxes recovered from Mar-a-Lago, noted that all recent presidential administrations have had some PRA violations, although most have involved the use of unofficial email accounts and phones.

In a statement addressing the current situation, Ferriero said, “NARA pursues the return of records whenever we learn that records have been improperly removed or have not been appropriately transferred to official accounts.”

NARA had worked with representatives for Trump over the course of 2021 to find records that hadn’t been transferred, according to a statement from the administration. In December, one of those representatives identified the recently recovered boxes and “NARA arranged for them to be securely transported to Washington,” the statement says.


Having read all that, I would assume most laymen would have no problem with whatever the Supreme Court decides, but especially if they rule what he did was a violation.

Did you happen to review the timing of the Biden bribery allegations and the timing of the Trump indictment?  Do you think that was a coincidence?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 13, 2023, 12:31:56 AM
Trump tops DeSantis by 38 points in new poll after news of indictment
BY LAUREN SFORZA - 06/11/23
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4044472-trump-tops-desantis-by-38-points-in-new-poll-after-news-of-indictment/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 13, 2023, 12:41:51 AM
 :D

Third-party presidential candidate Cornel West rips 'mediocre, milquetoast' Biden: 'Get off the crack pipe'
Cornel, a progressive activist, is a People's Party candidate for president
By Brandon Gillespie | Fox News
Published June 9, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/third-party-candidate-cornel-west-rips-mediocre-milk-toast-biden-crack-pipe?dicbo=v2-LIODfqp
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 13, 2023, 12:46:12 AM
Trump tops DeSantis by 38 points in new poll after news of indictment
BY LAUREN SFORZA - 06/11/23
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4044472-trump-tops-desantis-by-38-points-in-new-poll-after-news-of-indictment/
All candidates are hoping Trump goes to jail. If a republican wins they will pardon Trump and be a hero.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 14, 2023, 08:18:26 PM
Simply an untrue statement. Biden cooperated, had a lot fewer documents, but mainly, he cooperated. had Trump done the same he wouldn't have been indicted. He didn't. So it is NOT the same. Trump, per the evidence, brought this upon himself. Hell its not even debatable


The apologist goes on and on. Correct, it's not the same. The docs Biden had were for sale when he was not POTUS. He did not enjoy the right that Trump did to actually have them.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 14, 2023, 08:24:08 PM

The apologist goes on and on. Correct, it's not the same. The docs Biden had were for sale when he was not POTUS. He did not enjoy the right that Trump did to actually have them.

The difference between my post and yours is that mine is factual. It really does matter even today... I KNOW you think it doesn't after the last four years with Trump, but it really does.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: AbrahamG on June 14, 2023, 09:41:16 PM

The apologist goes on and on. Correct, it's not the same. The docs Biden had were for sale when he was not POTUS. He did not enjoy the right that Trump did to actually have them.

Prevagen.  Look into it. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 15, 2023, 02:19:42 PM
Code for
If the Supreme Court rules differently than what I believe, even if what I believe goes against the majority of experts opinions, then I will simply dismiss their ruling as cowardice rather than correct as is common practice among Trump advocates

Wrong troll.  I'm talking about the Supreme Court refusing to rule on any of the election lawsuits in 2020.  That was cowardice. 

If they don't act like cowards again, I do expect them to resolve this partisan, unAmerican, unconstitutional witch hunt. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on June 15, 2023, 05:27:40 PM
Simply an untrue statement. Biden cooperated, had a lot fewer documents, but mainly, he cooperated. had Trump done the same he wouldn't have been indicted. He didn't. So it is NOT the same. Trump, per the evidence, brought this upon himself. Hell its not even debatable
Biden cooperated because he knew they would bury the story and not mention how many classified, top secret documents his drug addict son, the one that didn't die in Iraq, had access to. ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 17, 2023, 12:13:04 AM
Miami Mayor Francis Suarez Files To Run For President In 2024
MARY LOU MASTERS
CONTRIBUTOR
June 14, 2023
https://dailycaller.com/2023/06/14/conservative-miami-mayor-francis-suarez-run-for-president-2024/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking&pnespid=7OZmGDgfLPIFh_LP9zW0DsmQ7gilUpZ4J.awnrM5vh1mFeDDEbO5Bs0wLvjzfnxOxi9XawZzQw
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 17, 2023, 12:17:50 AM
‘I was wrong’: Trump grows stronger, can beat Biden and topple US democracy, pollster fears
By Latika Bourke
June 13, 2023

London: Leading US pollster Frank Luntz says Donald Trump can re-win the presidency and that if that happens, US democracy could collapse.

Speaking to this masthead in London, where he was a guest speaker at the Centre for Policy Studies’ Margaret Thatcher conference, Luntz said he was wrong to declare in 2021 that Trump would never again be president.

“I now have to acknowledge that it is a distinct possibility that Donald Trump could be elected president – I did not believe that one year ago,” he said.

“I did not believe that the search of Mar-a-Lago would be handled so badly, I did not believe that the indictment of him in New York would be handled so badly.

“I did not believe that his opponents would be so inept as to actually strengthen him and the combination of all of those makes him now viable, not just in the Republican primary but in the general election.”

Luntz said US democracy could collapse if Trump was reinstated by the American people.

“It’s now conceivable that in 2024 the country comes apart,” he said. “We have a 15 per cent likelihood of that destroying American democracy depending on what happens.”

“NATO is in jeopardy, clearly. Ukraine will no longer receive American support. Our legal system will be in jeopardy – I don’t want to contemplate it.”

He denied he was exaggerating and said comparisons to the United States surviving civil war were irrelevant in modern times.

“Everything that I would have [previously] said to you was impossible is actually happening,” Luntz said.

“It was never conceivable before, just as January 6 wasn’t conceivable, just as the election day wasn’t conceivable, just as Roe v Wade being overturned wasn’t conceivable.

“The Roman Empire could never fall until it fell, the sun never set on the British Empire until it came apart, the Greeks created civilisation and now look where Greece is.”

Luntz said the reason US democracy was so frail was because truth was now contested and no longer about agreed-upon facts. That means people consume news to affirm their own views rather than be informed, he said.

“Democracies can survive negativity and they can survive division,” he said. “They cannot survive rejection of the truth because in the end, the foundation of democracy is knowing the truth, that’s how voters vote correctly.

“The moment you stop seeking the truth and start rejecting it, actively, that’s the moment when you lose this wonderful system of government, and we are there right now.”

Luntz said Trump was weaponising the various court proceedings against him to fashion himself as being persecuted rather than prosecuted.

“He actually knows the language of victimisation better than any politician I’ve seen anywhere across the globe, and he uses it effectively and has caused people to rally around him.

“So he’s actually stronger today under two indictments, being found guilty of sexual assault, he’s actually politically stronger today than he was one year ago.”

Former US ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley, Senator Tim Scott from South Carolina, former vice-president Mike Pence and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum are all hoping to beat Trump for the Republican nomination.

DeSantis is considered the candidate capable of posing the greatest threat to Trump, but Luntz identified Scott as having the best prospects of beating Biden.

“If Tim Scott gets the nomination he’s absolutely beating Joe Biden without any hesitation,” Luntz said.

Americans care about affordability, not the economy
Luntz said Biden was vulnerable and weaker than when he defeated Trump in 2020 because he had embarked on too much government spending that had added to the cost of living.

He said voters were no longer making decisions on issues but on attributes relating to the cost of living.

“They want certainty, predictability and security – against the next COVID virus, against the next economic collapse, against inflation, and by the way it’s not the economy that matters most or even inflation; it’s affordability,” he said.

“And they do not believe that Joe Biden’s succeeding in this area to a great degree.”

He predicted that the British Conservative Party would hemorrhage previously-held Labor seats they won under Boris Johnson in 2016 because voters were loyal to Johnson and not the Conservatives.

Johnson quit parliament on Monday, accusing a parliamentary inquiry investigating the parties held in Number 10 during COVID lockdowns of forcing him out in an anti-democratic witch hunt.

While British voters turned on the former prime minister for putting himself above the people, Luntz said this had not happened to Trump in the US.

“This is something that Trump has clearly done, but they forgive him for it, which is what I don’t understand [and] which is why I’m particularly nervous about the state of politics in America,” he said.
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.smh.com.au%2Fworld%2Fnorth-america%2Fi-was-wrong-trump-grows-stronger-can-beat-biden-and-topple-us-democracy-pollster-fears-20230613-p5dg11.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on June 17, 2023, 01:03:55 PM
‘I was wrong’: Trump grows stronger, can beat Biden and topple US democracy, pollster fears
By Latika Bourke
June 13, 2023

London: Leading US pollster Frank Luntz says Donald Trump can re-win the presidency and that if that happens, US democracy could collapse.

Speaking to this masthead in London, where he was a guest speaker at the Centre for Policy Studies’ Margaret Thatcher conference, Luntz said he was wrong to declare in 2021 that Trump would never again be president.

“I now have to acknowledge that it is a distinct possibility that Donald Trump could be elected president – I did not believe that one year ago,” he said.

“I did not believe that the search of Mar-a-Lago would be handled so badly, I did not believe that the indictment of him in New York would be handled so badly.

“I did not believe that his opponents would be so inept as to actually strengthen him and the combination of all of those makes him now viable, not just in the Republican primary but in the general election.”

Luntz said US democracy could collapse if Trump was reinstated by the American people.

“It’s now conceivable that in 2024 the country comes apart,” he said. “We have a 15 per cent likelihood of that destroying American democracy depending on what happens.”

“NATO is in jeopardy, clearly. Ukraine will no longer receive American support. Our legal system will be in jeopardy – I don’t want to contemplate it.”

He denied he was exaggerating and said comparisons to the United States surviving civil war were irrelevant in modern times.

“Everything that I would have [previously] said to you was impossible is actually happening,” Luntz said.

“It was never conceivable before, just as January 6 wasn’t conceivable, just as the election day wasn’t conceivable, just as Roe v Wade being overturned wasn’t conceivable.

“The Roman Empire could never fall until it fell, the sun never set on the British Empire until it came apart, the Greeks created civilisation and now look where Greece is.”

Luntz said the reason US democracy was so frail was because truth was now contested and no longer about agreed-upon facts. That means people consume news to affirm their own views rather than be informed, he said.

“Democracies can survive negativity and they can survive division,” he said. “They cannot survive rejection of the truth because in the end, the foundation of democracy is knowing the truth, that’s how voters vote correctly.

“The moment you stop seeking the truth and start rejecting it, actively, that’s the moment when you lose this wonderful system of government, and we are there right now.”

Luntz said Trump was weaponising the various court proceedings against him to fashion himself as being persecuted rather than prosecuted.

“He actually knows the language of victimisation better than any politician I’ve seen anywhere across the globe, and he uses it effectively and has caused people to rally around him.

“So he’s actually stronger today under two indictments, being found guilty of sexual assault, he’s actually politically stronger today than he was one year ago.”

Former US ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley, Senator Tim Scott from South Carolina, former vice-president Mike Pence and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum are all hoping to beat Trump for the Republican nomination.

DeSantis is considered the candidate capable of posing the greatest threat to Trump, but Luntz identified Scott as having the best prospects of beating Biden.

“If Tim Scott gets the nomination he’s absolutely beating Joe Biden without any hesitation,” Luntz said.

Americans care about affordability, not the economy
Luntz said Biden was vulnerable and weaker than when he defeated Trump in 2020 because he had embarked on too much government spending that had added to the cost of living.

He said voters were no longer making decisions on issues but on attributes relating to the cost of living.

“They want certainty, predictability and security – against the next COVID virus, against the next economic collapse, against inflation, and by the way it’s not the economy that matters most or even inflation; it’s affordability,” he said.

“And they do not believe that Joe Biden’s succeeding in this area to a great degree.”

He predicted that the British Conservative Party would hemorrhage previously-held Labor seats they won under Boris Johnson in 2016 because voters were loyal to Johnson and not the Conservatives.

Johnson quit parliament on Monday, accusing a parliamentary inquiry investigating the parties held in Number 10 during COVID lockdowns of forcing him out in an anti-democratic witch hunt.

While British voters turned on the former prime minister for putting himself above the people, Luntz said this had not happened to Trump in the US.

“This is something that Trump has clearly done, but they forgive him for it, which is what I don’t understand [and] which is why I’m particularly nervous about the state of politics in America,” he said.
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.smh.com.au%2Fworld%2Fnorth-america%2Fi-was-wrong-trump-grows-stronger-can-beat-biden-and-topple-us-democracy-pollster-fears-20230613-p5dg11.html
Topple US democracy ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 17, 2023, 01:40:21 PM
Topple US democracy ::)

Boy who cried wolf effeminate beta fags.   All of them.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 19, 2023, 11:40:34 AM
I'd like to think this lightweight, dishonest loser has no shot, but we currently have President Biden, so anything is possible.

Amid Biden stumbles, pressure grows for Gavin Newsom to decide on 2024 presidential run
Despite Newsom saying he has no plans to challenge incumbent president, speculation keeps growing.
By Charlotte Hazard
Updated: June 19, 2023
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/fri-gavin-newsom-facing-more-and-more-pressure-run-against-biden-2024
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 19, 2023, 11:53:26 AM
I'd like to think this lightweight, dishonest loser has no shot, but we currently have President Biden, so anything is possible.

Amid Biden stumbles, pressure grows for Gavin Newsom to decide on 2024 presidential run
Despite Newsom saying he has no plans to challenge incumbent president, speculation keeps growing.
By Charlotte Hazard
Updated: June 19, 2023
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/fri-gavin-newsom-facing-more-and-more-pressure-run-against-biden-2024



Cali needs that fed bailout.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 19, 2023, 03:38:59 PM
No way do President Biden's handlers let him out of his room to debate. 

Majority of Democrat Voters Want Joe Biden to Debate RFK Jr, Poll Reveals
By: Jason Walsh
June 19, 2023
https://www.dailyfetched.com/majority-of-democrat-voters-want-joe-biden-to-debate-rfk-jr-poll-reveals/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 20, 2023, 12:08:41 AM
No way do President Biden's handlers let him out of his room to debate. 

Majority of Democrat Voters Want Joe Biden to Debate RFK Jr, Poll Reveals
By: Jason Walsh
June 19, 2023
https://www.dailyfetched.com/majority-of-democrat-voters-want-joe-biden-to-debate-rfk-jr-poll-reveals/

RFK Jr would completely destroy Biden.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 20, 2023, 11:37:53 AM
RFK Jr would completely destroy Biden.

I agree.  That's why they won't let Biden anywhere near him. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 20, 2023, 11:38:47 AM
Rasmussen Poll: Even After Indictment, Trump Leads Biden
By Brian Freeman    |   Monday, 19 June 2023
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/rasmussen-poll-donald-trump-joe-biden/2023/06/19/id/1124087/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 20, 2023, 11:47:50 AM
Rasmussen Poll: Even After Indictment, Trump Leads Biden
By Brian Freeman    |   Monday, 19 June 2023
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/rasmussen-poll-donald-trump-joe-biden/2023/06/19/id/1124087/

Corrupt POS is on the way out.   People realize they have thrown everything at Trump to cover for this disastrous admn and nothing is real or serious. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on June 20, 2023, 12:25:25 PM
Corrupt POS is on the way out.   People realize they have thrown everything at Trump to cover for this disastrous admn and nothing is real or serious.

As for someone being real and/or serious, apparently, and especially it is not Trump. Did you watch his Monday night interview on FOX with Brit Hume? Folks like to point at Biden for having dementia... they should take a better look at Trump. He is either demented or a complete wacko. Rather than going to prison if convicted, he should plead insanity. He is better suited to be confined to a mental institution.

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 20, 2023, 12:58:16 PM
RFK Jr would completely destroy Biden.


He should stay away from private planes.

...and trains, and cars, and buses...and the street and city parks.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 20, 2023, 01:16:09 PM
Corrupt POS is on the way out.   People realize they have thrown everything at Trump to cover for this disastrous admn and nothing is real or serious.

If not for Biden being elected in 2020, I would agree with you.  I have no idea what is going to happen in 2024.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 20, 2023, 05:33:36 PM
If not for Biden being elected in 2020, I would agree with you.  I have no idea what is going to happen in 2024.


They are going to do as much as possible to destroy the precedents and sully the whole idea of voting. I would not be surprised if we ended up with two establishment candidates like DeSantis and Biden and also two "Independent" candidates such as Trump and RFKJR. That ensures nobody knows how Biden "won" again.

I just don't believe in any of it enough to care that much. I have seen the results and all of these people are on the same train ride to the same destination.

These plans are decades in the making, this whole voting for an actor every 4 years is just distraction.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 20, 2023, 06:47:28 PM

They are going to do as much as possible to destroy the precedents and sully the whole idea of voting. I would not be surprised if we ended up with two establishment candidates like DeSantis and Biden and also two "Independent" candidates such as Trump and RFKJR. That ensures nobody knows how Biden "won" again.

I just don't believe in any of it enough to care that much. I have seen the results and all of these people are on the same train ride to the same destination.

These plans are decades in the making, this whole voting for an actor every 4 years is just distraction.

I'm expecting a circus. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 20, 2023, 08:32:12 PM
I'm expecting a circus.

I think the playing field is Biden, Trump, DeSantis. That's it. The plus for Biden is Trump and Desantis will need to do battle unless Trump withdraws for some reason. I wouldn't put it past him to do so.
Biden and DeSantis will be hard to call though I would not be surprised if DeSantis pulled it off. The Caveat would be, what kind of damage did Trump do to DeSantis in the meantime
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on June 20, 2023, 08:54:31 PM
As for someone being real and/or serious, apparently, and especially it is not Trump. Did you watch his Monday night interview on FOX with Brit Hume? Folks like to point at Biden for having dementia... they should take a better look at Trump. He is either demented or a complete wacko. Rather than going to prison if convicted, he should plead insanity. He is better suited to be confined to a mental institution.


Funny you're still crying about Trump while blatantly ignoring Bidens daily "gaffes" ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 20, 2023, 09:08:09 PM
I think the playing field is Biden, Trump, DeSantis. That's it. The plus for Biden is Trump and Desantis will need to do battle unless Trump withdraws for some reason. I wouldn't put it past him to do so.
Biden and DeSantis will be hard to call though I would not be surprised if DeSantis pulled it off. The Caveat would be, what kind of damage did Trump do to DeSantis in the meantime

DeSantis has not moved the needle an inch.  It's Trump until there is a seismic shift.  And if Biden can make it to 2024, then it's Trump vs. Biden.  I think Democrats might kick Biden to the curb. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 22, 2023, 01:02:39 PM
NY Times: Sen. Rick Scott Eyes GOP White House Bid
By Eric Mack    |   Thursday, 22 June 2023
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/rick-scott-gop-presidential/2023/06/22/id/1124560/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 22, 2023, 01:07:32 PM
Kari Lake Appears at Mar-a-Lago More than Melania Trump and 'Practically Lives' in a Suite (Exclusive Source)
Lake's frequent appearances at Mar-a-Lago this past season came months after sources told PEOPLE that she has been vying for the role of Trump's running mate
By Virginia Chamlee and Marisa Sullivan
Published on June 21, 2023
https://people.com/kari-lake-mar-a-lago-appearances-exclusive-source-7550484
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 22, 2023, 01:14:36 PM
Kari Lake Appears at Mar-a-Lago More than Melania Trump and 'Practically Lives' in a Suite (Exclusive Source)
Lake's frequent appearances at Mar-a-Lago this past season came months after sources told PEOPLE that she has been vying for the role of Trump's running mate
By Virginia Chamlee and Marisa Sullivan
Published on June 21, 2023
https://people.com/kari-lake-mar-a-lago-appearances-exclusive-source-7550484

Maybe Trump is hooking up with her?   :D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 23, 2023, 01:03:05 PM
Maybe Trump is hooking up with her?   :D

They are both married and that would be a step down for him, but anything is possible. lol
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on June 23, 2023, 01:04:07 PM
Christie booed at Faith and Freedom event over Trump remarks
BY CAROLINE VAKIL - 06/23/23

Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) was booed Friday after he criticized former President Donald Trump during a Faith and Freedom Coalition event, saying in response, “You can boo all you want.”

“Why am I running for president of the United States? I’m running because [Trump’s] let us down. He has let us down because he’s unwilling — he’s unwilling to take responsibility for any of the mistakes that were made,” Christie said during the Faith and Freedom Coalition’s Road to Majority conference in Washington, D.C.

Christie noted that he was the first 2016 presidential candidate to back Trump and served as chairman of his transition team afterward. But as he continued further into his speech, the crowd shouted and booed at him.

“You can boo all you want,” Christie responded.

“Our faith teaches us that people have to take responsibility for what they do. People have to stand up and take accountability for what they do, and I cannot stand by,” Christie added, amid a mix of boos and some applause.

After his speech, Christie received loud cheers from some attendees who had gathered toward the back of the event to greet and take a photo with him.

But the response underscored the degree to which the event is a largely pro-Trump environment, as well as the difficulty anti-Trump candidates like Christie may have among Republican primary voters largely still loyal to Trump.

Further highlighting this point, North Carolina Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson (R), who’s running for governor in the state, received some of the largest applause early on during the event when he said he would be endorsing Trump in 2024. Robinson, who was endorsed by Trump earlier in the month, had previously been mum on who he’d back in the 2024 GOP presidential primary.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4064663-christie-booed-at-faith-and-freedom-event-over-trump-remarks/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 01, 2023, 12:15:41 AM
Uh oh.  Time for another indictment. 

Poll: Trump Leads Biden by Four Nationally, Voters Find Him Stronger Leader
NICK GILBERTSON  29 Jun 2023
Former President Donald Trump leads President Joe Biden by four points among registered voters in a hypothetical general election match-up, according to a national YouGov/Economist poll.
https://12ft.io/proxy?ref=&q=https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2023/06/29/poll-trump-leads-biden-by-four-guy-leader/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: TheGrinch on July 02, 2023, 09:11:29 AM
Dominion gonna Dominion..

good luck with the vote count
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on July 02, 2023, 01:15:43 PM
Funny you're still crying about Trump while blatantly ignoring Bidens daily "gaffes" ::)

I think you mean still laughing about Trump's daily self-incriminating comments.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 03, 2023, 07:22:35 PM
With Donald Trump So Far Ahead in GOP Primary Race, Attention Turns to the Veepstakes
By Duke | on July 03, 2023
https://redstate.com/tladuke/2023/07/03/with-donald-trump-so-far-ahead-in-gop-primary-race-attention-turns-to-the-veepstakes-n770866
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 05, 2023, 10:29:45 PM
14 Republicans Trump Could Pick as 2024 Running Mate
MATTHEW BOYLE  3 Jul 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/07/03/14-republicans-trump-could-pick-2024-running-mate/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 05, 2023, 10:35:22 PM
Top Ron DeSantis PAC spokesman admits 'we are way behind': Steve Cortes concedes Trump is the 'runaway frontrunner' and the Florida governor 'has work to do' in blunt assessment of 2024 prospects
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' PAC spokesman had a very frank assessment of 2024
Steve Cortes said on Twitter spaces that 'we are way behind'
The Never Back Down PAC spokesman called Trump a 'runaway frontrunner' 
By NIKKI SCHWAB, SENIOR U.S. POLITICAL REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 4 July 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12260585/Top-Ron-DeSantis-PAC-spokesman-admits-way-behind.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 05, 2023, 10:44:01 PM
Trump Raises $35 Million In Second-Quarter Fundraising
National News July 5, 2023
https://www.tampafp.com/trump-raises-35-million-in-second-quarter/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 10, 2023, 08:30:56 AM
The Biden team must be dropping F bombs over this. 

Ipsos Poll: Guilty Verdict Would Sway Some Voters for Trump
By Charles Kim  08 July 2023
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/gop-democrats-elections/2023/07/08/id/1126417/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on July 10, 2023, 05:10:25 PM
The Biden team must be dropping F bombs over this. 

Ipsos Poll: Guilty Verdict Would Sway Some Voters for Trump
By Charles Kim  08 July 2023
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/gop-democrats-elections/2023/07/08/id/1126417/

Or laughing their ass off. I used to follow polls, but too many have become asinine. There is so much chatter about rigging elections, what about rigging polls? Have you ever done phone banking for a political candidate or candidates? I have. And the lists of people they give you to call are most often people who are likely to vote the way you are going to ask them to.

Polls are no different. One retiree organization I am part of hires a company who do our phone banking. Guess who they call. Would it surprise you if I said they call retirees?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 10, 2023, 06:01:33 PM
Or laughing their ass off. I used to follow polls, but too many have become asinine. There is so much chatter about rigging elections, what about rigging polls? Have you ever done phone banking for a political candidate or candidates? I have. And the lists of people they give you to call are most often people who are likely to vote the way you are going to ask them to.

Polls are no different. One retiree organization I am part of hires a company who do our phone banking. Guess who they call. Would it surprise you if I said they call retirees?

You're missing the point.  Democrats and the Biden Administration are trying to lock up Biden's chief political opponent for life, but those efforts do not appear to be working.  I know some polls can be unreliable, but don't act like you always dismiss every poll you see. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on July 10, 2023, 07:26:53 PM
You're missing the point.  Democrats and the Biden Administration are trying to lock up Biden's chief political opponent for life, but those efforts do not appear to be working.  I know some polls can be unreliable, but don't act like you always dismiss every poll you see.

Well, I don't take the polls seriously. I look at them sometimes - sure.  To me it's like gambling and I am a total non- bettor aside from the rare purchase of a $2 PowerBall.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 11, 2023, 10:32:12 AM
Florida poll finds Trump well ahead of DeSantis in state
Sarah Fortinsky and The Hill
https://www.wtrf.com/hill-politics/florida-poll-finds-trump-well-ahead-of-desantis-in-state/amp/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on July 11, 2023, 03:27:06 PM
I think you mean still laughing about Trump's daily self-incriminating comments.
Maybe if you focused on the current abortion of an administration instead of what the media forces you to see about Trump, you'd have a slightly different opinion?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on July 11, 2023, 08:16:05 PM
Maybe if you focused on the current abortion of an administration instead of what the media forces you to see about Trump, you'd have a slightly different opinion?

Nope. This is your job, not mine. But I will give you this. If all I focused on was some weird love and admiration for everything Trump, like you do, I would have a slightly different opinion... until I woke up.  ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on July 11, 2023, 08:33:35 PM
Nope. This is your job, not mine. But I will give you this. If all I focused on was some weird love and admiration for everything Trump, like you do, I would have a slightly different opinion... until I woke up.  ;D
Same thing I tell losersomemore, post up all of my posts supporting Trump and I'll post up your TDS posts and we can compare. :)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2023, 12:47:17 AM
Same thing I tell losersomemore, post up all of my posts supporting Trump and I'll post up your TDS posts and we can compare. :)

Sorry but I am not willing to do your work for you. So, you go first.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 12, 2023, 10:35:41 AM
If DeSantis does well in the primaries, which currently appears unlikely, I can see him being Trump's VP. 

'I'm not a No. 2 guy': DeSantis says he won't be Trump's VP, Trump camp responds — 'DeSantis isn’t anybody’s guy'
"Ron DeSantis isn’t anybody’s guy. He’s not ‘the guy.’ He’s just ‘a guy.’"
The Post Millennial
Jul 11, 2023
https://thepostmillennial.com/im-not-a-no-2-guy-desantis-says-he-wont-be-trumps-vp-trump-camp-responds-desantis-isnt-anybodys-guy#google_vignette
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 12, 2023, 11:08:13 AM
If DeSantis does well in the primaries, which currently appears unlikely, I can see him being Trump's VP. 

'I'm not a No. 2 guy': DeSantis says he won't be Trump's VP, Trump camp responds — 'DeSantis isn’t anybody’s guy'
"Ron DeSantis isn’t anybody’s guy. He’s not ‘the guy.’ He’s just ‘a guy.’"
The Post Millennial
Jul 11, 2023
https://thepostmillennial.com/im-not-a-no-2-guy-desantis-says-he-wont-be-trumps-vp-trump-camp-responds-desantis-isnt-anybodys-guy#google_vignette

He should stay Florida Gov until 2028 and do a great job and build his brand there - and I like him. 

Trump is the guy for 2024.   
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 12, 2023, 11:24:08 AM
He should stay Florida Gov until 2028 and do a great job and build his brand there - and I like him. 

Trump is the guy for 2024.

Yeah I don't see him or anyone else beating Trump for the nomination. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 12, 2023, 11:31:36 AM
Yeah I don't see him or anyone else beating Trump for the nomination.

After what the POS did to trump that has come out - im now all in favor of Trump just as a big GFY to these tranny lgbt knts like prime straw the msm et al. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 12, 2023, 11:41:03 AM
After what the POS did to trump that has come out - im now all in favor of Trump just as a big GFY to these tranny lgbt knts like prime straw the msm et al.

I still would rather see DeSantis get the nomination, which I know is highly unlikely, but the political persecution has definitely made me more inclined to vote for Trump.  I would love to see the political persecution blow up in their faces.

We have closed primaries and I'm an independent, so I don't have to make a decision till November 2024 when we know the nominees.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2023, 01:27:32 PM
Trump feuds with Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds
The former president is frustrated at what he sees as the Iowa governor's coziness with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, his GOP presidential rival.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-feuds-iowa-gov-kim-reynolds-rcna93470

Trump's attack on Iowa's popular governor hints at a vulnerability in the state
The neutrality of many GOP elected officials is a counterpoint to the narrative that the poll-leading former president is on a glide path to the 2024 nomination.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-iowa-governor-kim-reynolds-vulnerability-rcna93712

Iowa may be the most important state on Donald J. Trump’s early 2024 political calendar, but he hasn’t been making many friends there lately.

He lashed out at Iowa’s popular Republican governor, Kim Reynolds, and then his campaign informed one of the state’s politically influential evangelical leaders, Bob Vander Plaats, that the former president would skip a gathering of presidential candidates this week in Des Moines.

Trump Is Picking Fights in Iowa, No Matter the 2024 Consequences
The former president snubbed one influential Iowa leader and attacked another, testing his immunity to traditional political pitfalls in a crucial state.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/11/us/politics/trump-kim-reynolds-iowa.html

Iowa GOP schedules presidential caucuses for Jan. 15 (Iowa traditionally holds the first GOP caucus)

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/08/iowa-gop-presidential-caucuses-00105309




Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on July 12, 2023, 04:55:58 PM
Sorry but I am not willing to do your work for you. So, you go first.
Because you can't. Mocking you losers for supporting taking advantage of the mentally ill and pushing it on our kids, supporting pedophiles, supporting the pushing of drugs both pharmaceutical and street, supporting the race baiting left, etc, is not the same as supporting Trump. One day you morons might get that but I fear your cultist TDS has gone too far and you leftists are the problem. :-*
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2023, 06:24:49 PM
Because you can't. Mocking you losers for supporting taking advantage of the mentally ill and pushing it on our kids, supporting pedophiles, supporting the pushing of drugs both pharmaceutical and street, supporting the race baiting left, etc, is not the same as supporting Trump. One day you morons might get that but I fear your cultist TDS has gone too far and you leftists are the problem. :-*

Whatever. You have your head so far up your ass with rightist propaganda and ludicrous putdowns that it is unlikely you will ever accomplish doing anything positive to change what needs fixing. By now you should realize that all the trash talk on Getbig is a non-starter. All most folks like you do is complain, accuse, and complain some more. In other words, you do nothing constructive which is why things hardly ever change for the better. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on July 12, 2023, 08:05:48 PM
Whatever. You have your head so far up your ass with rightist propaganda and ludicrous putdowns that it is unlikely you will ever accomplish doing anything positive to change what needs fixing. By now you should realize that all the trash talk on Getbig is a non-starter. All most folks like you do is complain, accuse, and complain some more. In other words, you do nothing constructive which is why things hardly ever change for the better.
Pot/kettle or in you liberals cases he/her.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on July 12, 2023, 08:33:07 PM
Because you can't. Mocking you losers for supporting taking advantage of the mentally ill and pushing it on our kids, supporting pedophiles, supporting the pushing of drugs both pharmaceutical and street, supporting the race baiting left, etc, is not the same as supporting Trump. One day you morons might get that but I fear your cultist TDS has gone too far and you leftists are the problem. :-*

The liberals have become the party of big company, censorship & big gov't, exactly the opposite of what a classic liberal used to be.

Trump broke them badly.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 12, 2023, 10:42:18 PM
Democratic jitters grow over Cornel West’s third-party bid
BY HANNA TRUDO - 07/12/23
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4091419-democratic-jitters-grow-over-cornel-wests-third-party-bid/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 12, 2023, 10:43:41 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Democratic Senator Joe Manchin to headline third party No Labels event in New Hampshire next week in push to give Americans a candidate other than Biden or Trump
Manchin will be in New Hampshire on Monday, July 17th with No Labels
Group holding an event as it seeks to give Americans an option to Joe Biden and Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential race
Manchin has not ruled out a third-party presidential bid if asked and Democrats worry it would take away enough votes from Biden to hand Trump a victory
By EMILY GOODIN, SENIOR U.S. POLITICAL REPORTER
PUBLISHED: 12 July 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12287987/Joe-Manchin-heads-New-Hampshire-No-Labels-amid-talk-Biden-challenge.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on July 13, 2023, 04:00:08 PM
The liberals have become the party of big company, censorship & big gov't, exactly the opposite of what a classic liberal used to be.

Trump broke them badly.
There's no recovery for them, they've dug their heels into the perversion and corruption too deeply.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 13, 2023, 08:06:26 PM
There's no recovery for them, they've dug their heels into the perversion and corruption too deeply.

Remember when republicans were for smaller government. Can you honestly say that's true today?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 14, 2023, 12:46:52 AM
Remember when republicans were for smaller government. Can you honestly say that's true today?
No. There is a way you could have a much smaller but more effective government but it will never happen. The two party system makes it impossible.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 14, 2023, 12:56:43 PM
DeSantis weighs media strategy shift as donors fret about early campaign struggles: Sources
Top donors have been privately fretting about DeSantis' chances, sources say.
By  Will Steakin
July 13, 2023
https://abcnews.go.com/US/desantis-weighs-media-strategy-shift-donors-fret-early/story?id=101218101
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 14, 2023, 01:04:34 PM
About time they do something about this crap. 

Eighteen states, DC accept ballots after Election Day, with North Dakota’s deadline facing lawsuit
Only Illinois and Utah have later deadlines for accepting ballots than North Dakota, which are both 14 days after Election Day.
By Natalia Mittelstadt
Updated: July 14, 2023
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/18-states-dc-accept-ballots-after-election-day-north-dakota-faces-lawsuit?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on July 14, 2023, 03:44:17 PM
Remember when republicans were for smaller government. Can you honestly say that's true today?
The government will never downsize without violence.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on July 14, 2023, 04:13:36 PM
Yes Pedo Pete does definitely deserve 2 terms there I said it










Yes 1 for Treason
& 1 for Fraud
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 14, 2023, 09:00:27 PM
No. There is a way you could have a much smaller but more effective government but it will never happen. The two party system makes it impossible.

agree. But either party claiming they are for smaller government is BS. Democrats or Republicans. When all is said and done.. the Nanny state is comforting to most
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 14, 2023, 09:25:15 PM
New Hampshire Poll: Donald Trump Maintains 37-Point Lead over Ron DeSantis
JORDAN DIXON-HAMILTON  14 Jul 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/07/14/new-hampshire-poll-donald-trump-maintains-37-point-lead-over-ron-desantis/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on July 15, 2023, 07:21:16 AM
No. There is a way you could have a much smaller but more effective government but it will never happen. The two party system makes it impossible.
Any more parties added to the system will only make government bigger.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: TheGrinch on July 16, 2023, 11:43:52 AM
LOL @ voting..


like you have a choice.. amazing how gullible you are to even think your vote matters..


and THIS is why the Rothschilds will still control you in the future
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 17, 2023, 03:56:42 PM
LOL @ voting..


like you have a choice.. amazing how gullible you are to even think your vote matters..


and THIS is why the Rothschilds will still control you in the future

Then you should sit out the 2024 election.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 17, 2023, 03:58:39 PM
They have to lie about the man or label him a nut to try and discredit him, because they cannot address his position on the issues.  He's clearly a better Democrat candidate than President Biden.

Democrats condemn RFK Jr. over ‘reprehensible’ COVID-19 remarks
BY HANNA TRUDO - 07/17/23
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4102002-democrats-condemn-rfk-jr-over-reprehensible-covid-19-remarks/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 17, 2023, 04:03:55 PM
Well all he had to do was show up in 2016 and he won.   :-\

Simon Ateba
@simonateba
BREAKING - THE NUMBERS ARE IN: How does he intend to win? - President
@JoeBiden
 spending virtually no money for his re-election campaign. In the second quarter of this year, according to fresh data, his campaign had only four people on the payroll, spent less than $1,500 on travel, accommodations, and airfare. In all, Biden’s campaign spent $1.1 million in the second quarter of this year. His former boss
@BarackObama
 spent more than $11 million in the second quarter of 2011 when he was running for re-election, and he barely won re-election. So the question is, how does Biden intend to win?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 17, 2023, 04:18:44 PM
I think it's hilarious that their pandering illegal immigration pivot is blowing up in their faces. 

Democrats lost 26 points with Hispanic voters in 2022 midterm elections, says Pew Research Center
"This change was driven by asymmetric changes in voter turnout among Hispanic adults, rather than changing preferences among individual Hispanic voters," the report noted
By Katarina Hall
July 14, 2023
https://adnamerica.com/en/united-states/democrats-lost-26-points-hispanic-voters-2022-midterm-elections-says-pew-research?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: TheGrinch on July 18, 2023, 10:36:16 PM
Then you should sit out the 2024 election.

oh I will.. trust me


I will watch 80% of people go vote for DT/RD ticket and then laugh my ass off when PEDO for POTUS or Gavin NewSCUM wins.

Everyone will do what they always do... cry, bitch and moan online about how it was stolen.... SURE it was... yes.. it WAS

And there's not a damn thing anyone is going to do about it besides complain online.

Dominion gonna Dominion
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 19, 2023, 06:18:13 AM
oh I will.. trust me


I will watch 80% of people go vote for DT/RD ticket and then laugh my ass off when PEDO for POTUS or Gavin NewSCUM wins.

Everyone will do what they always do... cry, bitch and moan online about how it was stolen.... SURE it was... yes.. it WAS

And there's not a damn thing anyone is going to do about it besides complain online.

Dominion gonna Dominion

After the past two general elections, I think anything is possible. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 24, 2023, 11:23:34 AM
Maybe she and Eric Swalwell should form a unity ticket.

Liz Cheney Hints She May Run for President: “I’m Not Going to Do Anything That Helps Trump”
By: Jason Walsh
July 24, 2023
https://www.dailyfetched.com/liz-cheney-hints-she-may-run-for-president-im-not-going-to-do-anything-that-helps-trump/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 24, 2023, 11:26:47 AM
Time for more indictments.  The first two have pretty much backfired. 

Poll: Donald Trump Leads Joe Biden by 18 Points Among Independents
JORDAN DIXON-HAMILTON   21 Jul 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/07/21/poll-donald-trump-leads-joe-biden-18-points-independents/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 24, 2023, 01:09:23 PM
 :o

Vivek Ramaswamy Makes Moves as One Poll Shows Him Edging Past Ron DeSantis
By Jennifer Oliver O'Connell |  July 24, 2023
https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2023/07/24/vivek-ramaswamy-makes-moves-as-one-poll-shows-him-edging-past-ron-desantis-n781335
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 24, 2023, 05:19:20 PM
I really like DeSantis but man has this been a crash and burn for him, so far.

Tim Scott is gaining on Ron DeSantis for the No. 2 spot behind Donald Trump according to new poll showing only a five percent difference between the two 2024 presidential hopefuls in Iowa
Sen. Tim Scott is gaining on Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in Iowa
A Fox Business survey has DeSantis at 16 percent and Scott at 11 percent
Former President Donald Trump is way out in front with 46 percent 
By NIKKI SCHWAB, SENIOR U.S. POLITICAL REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 24 July 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12331985/Tim-Scott-gaining-Ron-DeSantis-No-2-spot-Donald-Trump-according-new-poll-showing-five-percent-difference-two-2024-presidential-hopefuls-Iowa.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on July 24, 2023, 05:29:15 PM
:o

Vivek Ramaswamy Makes Moves as One Poll Shows Him Edging Past Ron DeSantis
By Jennifer Oliver O'Connell |  July 24, 2023
https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2023/07/24/vivek-ramaswamy-makes-moves-as-one-poll-shows-him-edging-past-ron-desantis-n781335

The first debate is in less than a month.  8)  I wasn't able to follow them 8 years ago, but I've got the popcorn in the pantry this time!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 24, 2023, 05:37:52 PM
The first debate is in less than a month.  8)  I wasn't able to follow them 8 years ago, but I've got the popcorn in the pantry this time!

Only worth watching if Trump participates and he might not.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 25, 2023, 09:24:48 AM
Rasmussen Poll: Trump Leads DeSantis by 44 Points
By Eric Mack    |  25 July 2023
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donaldtrump-rondesantis-rasmussen/2023/07/25/id/1128398/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 25, 2023, 08:52:44 PM
DeSantis lets go of more than a third of campaign staff as reset continues
The cuts, which were confirmed by advisers, will amount to a total of 38 jobs shed across an array of departments.
By ALEX ISENSTADT
07/25/2023
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/25/desantis-lets-go-of-more-than-1-3-of-campaign-staff-as-reset-continues-00108046
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 25, 2023, 08:54:21 PM
"Trump, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley, entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy, former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) and North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum seem to have hit the fundraising and donor requirements, according to FiveThirtyEight and some of their campaigns."

The GOP qualifiers for the Fox News debate
Erin Doherty
https://www.axios.com/2023/07/25/2024-republican-debates-qualify-gop
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on July 27, 2023, 01:13:45 AM
Only worth watching if Trump participates and he might not.

I think that would be a bad strategy and hope that he participates.  Folks would watch the debates and wonder, “Where’s Trump?,” while DeSantis, Vivek, Scott et al garner all the attention. 

I don’t think that the media would report on Trump’s rallies like before, so he’d be missing out on free publicity.  Free publicity is what largely got him the nomination.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 27, 2023, 10:36:55 AM
I think that would be a bad strategy and hope that he participates.  Folks would watch the debates and wonder, “Where’s Trump?,” while DeSantis, Vivek, Scott et al garner all the attention. 

I don’t think that the media would report on Trump’s rallies like before, so he’d be missing out on free publicity.  Free publicity is what largely got him the nomination.

Is it bad strategy?  I would rather he show up and debate, but he has a massive lead in the polls that shows no signs of changing.  Debating isn't really going to move the needle for him. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 27, 2023, 10:37:28 AM
Poll: Trump’s Lead over DeSantis Grows Ten Points in Two Weeks
NICK GILBERTSON   26 Jul 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2023/07/26/poll-trumps-lead-over-desantis-grows-ten-points-two-weeks/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on July 31, 2023, 10:28:38 AM
New poll shows Trump with 37-point primary lead, bolstered by 'unshakable' MAGA base
The survey shows that DeSantis' central arguments – that he is more likely to win than Trump and that he would be a more effective leader – have so far not worked.
By Madeleine Hubbard
Updated: July 31, 2023
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/trump-crushes-desantis-and-other-republican-rivals-primary-poll?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2023, 01:40:00 PM
Biden and his operatives in response to this:  more indictments.  Stat!

Alarm goes out: Trump could win
by Byron York, Chief Political Correspondent |
July 31, 2023
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/alarm-goes-out-trump-could-win
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2023, 11:14:39 PM
Oh no.  Time for Georgia or Michigan to step up with an indictement.  Or they might wait until the next witness provides evidence against The Biden Crime Family.

Trump’s In a ‘Historically Strong Position’ to Return to the White House, Concludes CNN’s Data Guru
By Alex Griffing  Jul 31st, 2023
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/trumps-in-a-historically-strong-position-to-return-to-the-white-house-concludes-cnns-data-guru/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 02, 2023, 05:35:32 PM
Gavin Newsom running for president? His fundraising strategy signals White House aspirations
Story by Maggie Angst, David Lightman, The Sacramento Bee
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gavin-newsom-running-for-president-his-fundraising-strategy-signals-white-house-aspirations/ar-AA1eEvSW
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 03, 2023, 07:45:19 PM
‘It Just Makes Him Stronger’: Trump’s Third Indictment Will Help Him In 2024 Primary, Experts Say
MARY LOU MASTERS
CONTRIBUTOR
August 03, 2023
https://dailycaller.com/2023/08/03/donald-trumps-indictment-help-2024-gop-primary/?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 04, 2023, 10:17:27 AM
Trump Says It Would Be 'Sort of Foolish' to Go to the Republican Debate
By Frank Fang
8/3/2023
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/trump-says-it-would-be-sort-of-foolish-to-go-to-the-republican-debate-5441753?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=BonginoReport&src_src=partner&src_cmp=BonginoReport
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 07, 2023, 11:31:05 AM
Exclusive: DeSantis' biggest donor warns he may stop funding campaign
By Alexandra Ulmer
August 5, 2023
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/desantis-biggest-donor-says-he-wont-give-more-money-unless-changes-are-made-2023-08-04/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on August 07, 2023, 04:39:12 PM
Where's all the articles about Biden and what a great idea it would be for him to be president for 4 more years?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 07, 2023, 04:41:14 PM
Where's all the articles about Biden and what a great idea it would be for him to be president for 4 more years?

In the Political Jokes thread.   :)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on August 07, 2023, 05:06:47 PM
 
In the Political Jokes thread.   :)
;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on August 07, 2023, 07:06:05 PM
‘It Just Makes Him Stronger’: Trump’s Third Indictment Will Help Him In 2024 Primary, Experts Say
MARY LOU MASTERS
CONTRIBUTOR
August 03, 2023
https://dailycaller.com/2023/08/03/donald-trumps-indictment-help-2024-gop-primary/?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home

Before I can accept this as a fact, I need to see those experts' credentials. These experts could be, Rudolph W. Giuliani, John Eastman, Sidney Powell, Jeffrey Clark, Kenneth Chesebro, and James Troupis. Their record of success is exemplary.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 07, 2023, 07:16:11 PM
Before I can accept this as a fact, I need to see those experts' credentials. These experts could be, Rudolph W. Giuliani, John Eastman, Sidney Powell, Jeffrey Clark, Kenneth Chesebro, and James Troupis. Their record of success is exemplary.

Why are you speculating?  Just read the article.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on August 07, 2023, 07:20:36 PM
Why are you speculating?  Just read the article.

I read the article. I am having fun. Do you remember what having fun is? I am beginning to think you do not and that is sad.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 07, 2023, 07:57:33 PM
I read the article. I am having fun. Do you remember what having fun is? I am beginning to think you do not and that is sad.

I laugh all day every day.  But if you are joking, you gotta work on your delivery.  Like I tell my wife when she doesn't get my jokes:  it's really not funny if I have to explain it.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on August 07, 2023, 08:32:53 PM
I read the article. I am having fun. Do you remember what having fun is? I am beginning to think you do not and that is sad.


Have Fun with this one  ;D
Biden lied to a soldier's mother, stating that he, too, had a son brought home in a flag-draped coffin.


Biden has a long history of repeatedly lying but, if that behavior is dismissed as senility, he's too senile to be in office.

Vid-E-O:https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1688627854773288960
 (https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1688627854773288960)

Cheryl Rex, mother of Lance Cpl. Dylan Merola:

"When [Biden] approached me, his words to me were, 'My wife, Jill & I, know how you feel. We lost our son as well and brought him home in a flag draped coffin.'"

"My heart started beating faster & I started shaking, knowing that their son died from cancer & they were able to be by his side."

"How could someone be so heartless to say he knew how I felt."




Where are the Biden supporters to say this is lies ............
Joe would never say such things - would he ?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 08, 2023, 09:28:37 AM
Ron DeSantis ousts campaign manager as he trails Donald Trump in 2024 Republican primary
Zac Anderson
Sarasota Herald-Tribune
Published Aug. 8, 2023
https://www.usatoday.com/story/guy-donald-trump/70550057007/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 08, 2023, 12:09:41 PM
She sounds pretty worried?   :D



In the comments to New York magazine, Pelosi stated “The indictments against the president are exquisite,” adding “They’re beautiful and intricate, and they probably have a better chance of conviction than anything that I would come up with.”

When asked about the possibility of another Trump presidency, Pelosi commanded the reporter “Don’t even think of that.”

“Don’t think of the world being on fire,” she continued, adding “It cannot happen, or we will not be the United States of America.”

“If he were to be president, it would be a criminal enterprise in the White House,” she added, without a hint of irony.

Pelosi made the comments after Trump labelled her a “wicked witch” and a “demented psycho” who will reside in hell when she dies.


https://summit.news/2023/08/08/nancy-pelosi-declares-america-will-cease-to-exist-if-trump-become-president-again/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on August 08, 2023, 12:19:51 PM
She sounds pretty worried?   :D



In the comments to New York magazine, Pelosi stated “The indictments against the president are exquisite,” adding “They’re beautiful and intricate, and they probably have a better chance of conviction than anything that I would come up with.”

When asked about the possibility of another Trump presidency, Pelosi commanded the reporter “Don’t even think of that.”

“Don’t think of the world being on fire,” she continued, adding “It cannot happen, or we will not be the United States of America.”

“If he were to be president, it would be a criminal enterprise in the White House,” she added, without a hint of irony.

Pelosi made the comments after Trump labelled her a “wicked witch” and a “demented psycho” who will reside in hell when she dies.


https://summit.news/2023/08/08/nancy-pelosi-declares-america-will-cease-to-exist-if-trump-become-president-again/

I seriously doubt that Nancy Pelosi cares about some stupid and childish insults Trump posted about her. On the other hand, if anyone should know what constitutes a demented psycho, Donald Trump should. He has been living with one since the day he was born.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 08, 2023, 06:10:16 PM
Oh no.  Time for Georgia to step up with an indictment.

InteractivePolls
@IAPolls2022
🚨 NEW NATIONAL POLL

PRES:
(R) Trump 42%
(D) Biden 38%
.
(D) Biden 36%
(R) DeSantis 34%
——
GOP PRES:
Trump 54%
DeSantis 18%
Ramaswamy 7%
Pence 6%
Haley 4%
Scott 4%
Christie 1%
.
H2H:
Trump 65%
DeSantis 26%

@premisedata
 | 08/02-07 | RVs
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/20230808_US_Premise.pdf

🚨 ARIZONA 2024 POLL

PRES:
(R) Trump 45%
(D) Biden 43%
.
(R) Trump 42%
(D) Biden 41%
(G) West 4%
——
SEN:
(D) Gallego 36%
(R) Lamb 29%
(I) Sinema 21%

2-Way
(R) Lamb 42%
(D) Gallego 42%
——
GOP SEN:
Lake 42%
Lamb 11%
Masters 7%
——
GOP PRES
Trump 58%
DeSantis 11%
Christie 6%

Emerson (A-) | 1,337 RV | 08/02-04
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 08, 2023, 07:21:28 PM
I seriously doubt that Nancy Pelosi cares about some stupid and childish insults Trump posted about her. On the other hand, if anyone should know what constitutes a demented psycho, Donald Trump should. He has been living with one since the day he was born.


Right, she's a well balanced individual able to handle things she doesn't like normally.








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She's a nut.


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Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 08, 2023, 07:31:54 PM

Right, she's a well balanced individual able to handle things she doesn't like normally.








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She's a nut.


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Yeah she's all class.

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 09, 2023, 06:21:47 PM
Ex-Pence security adviser Keith Kellogg backs Trump in 2024 election
By Josh Christenson
August 8, 2023
https://nypost.com/2023/08/08/former-pence-adviser-backs-trump-in-2024-election/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 09, 2023, 06:27:35 PM
Trump leads Biden by 4 points after indictments: poll
In a head-to-head matchup for the party nomination, Trump beat DeSantis by a 65% to 26% margin.
By Ben Whedon
Updated: August 8, 2023
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/trump-leads-biden-4-points-after-indictments-poll?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 09, 2023, 08:08:45 PM
Trump says he won't sign RNC loyalty pledge required for debate
Rebecca Falconer
https://www.axios.com/2023/08/10/trump-republican-loyalty-pledge-rnc-debate
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 09, 2023, 08:14:05 PM
Poll: Trump Favorability Skyrockets, 4 in 10 Republicans View Mike Pence Unfavorably
HANNAH BLEAU  9 Aug 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/09/poll-trump-favorability-skyrockets-4-in-10-republicans-view-mike-pence-unfavorably/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on August 10, 2023, 05:15:46 PM
Poll: Trump Favorability Skyrockets, 4 in 10 Republicans View Mike Pence Unfavorably
HANNAH BLEAU  9 Aug 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/09/poll-trump-favorability-skyrockets-4-in-10-republicans-view-mike-pence-unfavorably/
Pence is a weirdo twat.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 10, 2023, 08:15:52 PM
Pence is a weirdo twat.

I thought he was ok.  But I'm starting to put him in the same camp with Fat Man. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 10, 2023, 09:03:10 PM
Pence was put in on a deal as a babysitter/narc. Ex-radio jock can't be trusted to do anything not involving $$$.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 11, 2023, 02:00:31 PM
Somebody better let Woody Harrelson know there is no independent thought allowed in the Democrat Party.  He is going to get cancelled.   

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Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 14, 2023, 12:20:41 PM
As evidence against The Biden Crime Family mounts, I expect to see more Democrats trying to urge Biden to quit.

Democrat Calls on Biden to Step Out of 2024 Race: ‘People Want to Turn the Page’
By: Jason Walsh
August 14, 2023
https://www.dailyfetched.com/democrat-calls-on-biden-to-step-out-of-2024-race-people-want-to-turn-the-page/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 14, 2023, 12:27:09 PM
Exclusive — Obama’s Brother Malik: ‘Yes I Am’ All in Backing Trump in 2024
(https://media.breitbart.com/media/2023/08/malik-obama-twitter-f-biden-hat-640x480.jpg)
Former President Barack Obama’s older half-brother, Malik Obama, uploaded a photo of himself to social media wearing a hat that read, “F Biden” and told Breitbart News that he is all in supporting former President Donald Trump in 2024.Malik Obama/Twitter
JORDAN DIXON-HAMILTON   12 Aug 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/12/barack-obama-brother-malik-wears-f-biden-hat-backing-trump/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 14, 2023, 12:30:27 PM
‘We Want Trump!’ Watch Crowd Go Wild as DeSantis Literally Overshadowed By Trump at Iowa State Fair – With Planes
By Phillip Nieto  Aug 12th, 2023
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/we-want-trump-watch-crowd-go-wild-as-desantis-literally-overshadowed-by-trump-at-iowa-state-fair-with-planes/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 14, 2023, 12:34:11 PM
Conservative Iowa radio host Steve Deace endorses DeSantis
BY JULIA MANCHESTER - 08/11/23
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4149354-conservative-iowa-radio-host-steve-deace-endorses-desantis/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 15, 2023, 10:51:24 PM
Christie pulls ahead of DeSantis in New Hampshire GOP primary: poll
BY JULIA MANCHESTER - 08/15/23
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4152546-christie-pulls-ahead-of-desantis-in-new-hampshire-gop-primary-poll/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 16, 2023, 11:47:39 AM
Morning Consult Poll: Trump Boasts 41-Point Lead One Week Ahead of Republican Debate
Republican presidential candidate former President Donald Trump greets supporters at the Iowa Pork Producers tent during a visit to the Iowa State
HANNAH BLEAU   15 Aug 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/15/morning-consult-poll-trump-boasts-41-point-lead-one-week-ahead-republican-debate/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 17, 2023, 11:35:53 AM
This has to be frustrating for the left-wing fascists.  Here they go through all the trouble of trying to lock Biden's chief political opponent up for life and they are still in a dead heat.  I wonder what the numbers would look like without the political persecutions?

Trump, DeSantis both virtually tied with Biden in potential faceoff
By Casey Harper | The Center Square 
https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_6279d414-3c4b-11ee-bfe9-47a1c7cebc1d.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on August 17, 2023, 05:25:22 PM
This has to be frustrating for the left-wing fascists.  Here they go through all the trouble of trying to lock Biden's chief political opponent up for life and they are still in a dead heat.  I wonder what the numbers would look like without the political persecutions?

Trump, DeSantis both virtually tied with Biden in potential faceoff
By Casey Harper | The Center Square 
https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_6279d414-3c4b-11ee-bfe9-47a1c7cebc1d.html
If this situation was going down in the middle east we would be liberating some oil by now.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 18, 2023, 01:51:03 PM
If this situation was going down in the middle east we would be liberating some oil by now.

Right?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 18, 2023, 01:51:28 PM
Trump Plans to Skip G.O.P. Debate for Interview With Tucker Carlson
August 18, 2023
https://dnyuz.com/2023/08/18/trump-plans-to-skip-g-o-p-debate-for-interview-with-tucker-carlson/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 18, 2023, 01:53:10 PM
Full list: The GOP candidates who qualify for Fox News debate
Erin Doherty

Nine Republican presidential candidates appear to have qualified for the Republican National Committee's first 2024 debate on August 23.

Why it matters: The Fox News debate presents an opportunity for Republican 2024 hopefuls to try to launch their campaigns — but they're likely to face the absence of Republican front-runner former President Trump.

Driving the news: Trump, former Vice President Mike Pence, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, former UN ambassador Nikki Haley, entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy, former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.), North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum and Miami Mayor Francis Suarez seem to have hit the fundraising and donor requirements, according to FiveThirtyEight and some of their campaigns.

A spokesperson for Trump did not immediately respond to Axios' request for confirmation.
Trump has indicated that he will not participate in the debate, despite urging from RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel, who said last month that it would be "a mistake" for him to skip.
State of play: The RNC said earlier this year that candidates seeking to qualify for the August debate will need 40,000 unique donors, including at least 200 unique donors per state or territory in at least 20 states and/or territories.

Candidates also need at least 1% support in three independent national polls or two national polls and one independent poll from two of four early-voting states — Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina.
The polling requirement must be met at least 48 hours before the first debate and they must be conducted after July 1, per the RNC.
The final debate requirement is for candidates to sign a pledge vowing to support the eventual 2024 GOP nominee. Some candidates, including Christie, are resistant to vowing to support Trump if he is the nominee amid his legal woes.

Between the lines: Pence has taken aim at some of his Republican rivals who have turned to unconventional fundraising tactics to boost their small-dollar donor support and qualify for the debate.

"We’re not doing kickbacks. We’re not doing gift cards. We’re not even giving out soccer tickets," Pence said during an interview with Semafor ahead of meeting the qualifications.
"We’re just asking people for support, and it’s rolling in," he said.
What to watch: The first GOP presidential primary debate, hosted by Fox News, will take place in Milwaukee, Wisconsin on Aug. 23 from 9-11 pm ET.

https://www.axios.com/2023/07/25/2024-republican-debates-qualify-gop
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 18, 2023, 01:55:39 PM
South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem says she'd consider Trump's veep spot if asked
Noem boasted of South Dakota's nationally-lowest unemployment rate and 0% income tax
By Charles Creitz  Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/media/south-dakota-gov-kristi-noem-consider-trumps-vice-president-spot-asked
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 18, 2023, 07:31:50 PM
South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem says she'd consider Trump's veep spot if asked
Noem boasted of South Dakota's nationally-lowest unemployment rate and 0% income tax
By Charles Creitz  Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/media/south-dakota-gov-kristi-noem-consider-trumps-vice-president-spot-asked


She looks to be pro guns. Show me an in shape liberal woman gov.

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Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on August 18, 2023, 08:32:14 PM

She looks to be pro guns. Show me an in shape liberal woman gov.

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Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 21, 2023, 07:06:40 PM
Maybe the left will discard this old husk after all. A zero upside candidate.


In talks with prosecutors, Hunter Biden’s lawyers vowed to put the president on the stand

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/19/hunter-biden-plea-deal-collapse-00111974
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 22, 2023, 08:58:08 PM
I'll be surprised if Biden debates Trump.

Will Biden debate Trump if he's the Republican nominee? His campaign won't commit
Joey Garrison
Francesca Chambers
USA TODAY
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/22/joe-biden-campaign-debate-donald-trump/70649451007/




Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 22, 2023, 08:59:37 PM
The partisan, manufactured rape trial didn't work.  Four indictments didn't work.  Next up:  trying to keep Trump off the ballot. 

Trump claims 5-point lead over Biden in post-indictment poll
The primary contest is Trump's race to lose, with 60% of voters backing him, compared to 16% who preferred DeSantis.
By Ben Whedon
Updated: August 22, 2023
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/trump-claims-5-point-lead-over-biden-post-indictment-poll?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 22, 2023, 09:02:24 PM
CBS News poll finds Trump's big lead grows, as GOP voters dismiss indictments
BY ANTHONY SALVANTO, KABIR KHANNA, JENNIFER DE PINTO, FRED BACKUS
UPDATED ON: AUGUST 20, 2023
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-poll-indictments-2023-08-20/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 22, 2023, 09:08:16 PM
Trump, DeSantis both virtually tied with Biden in potential faceoff
By Casey Harper | The Center Square Aug 17, 2023
https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_6279d414-3c4b-11ee-bfe9-47a1c7cebc1d.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 23, 2023, 06:14:25 AM
Jobs numbers being revised down 650,000 today.  ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on August 23, 2023, 10:30:38 PM
Jobs numbers being revised down 650,000 today.  ;D

Glad I'm retired
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 24, 2023, 09:15:33 AM
Glad I'm retired

Yeah this economy is total crap.  Bidenomics is worse than Obamanomics. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 24, 2023, 12:33:27 PM
Yeah this economy is total crap.  Bidenomics is worse than Obamanomics.


It's not crap, it's fake. Crap would mean that things are just correcting. This is a shell game to keep people from knowing how rotted the fundamentals are under that shiny wrapping paper.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 29, 2023, 03:40:06 PM
The Russian Manchurian Candidate hoax didn't work.  The 911 Commission with their movie producer-created video didn't work.  The faux, fascist rape case didn't work.  The four indictments haven't worked.  Next will be the attempt to keep Trump off the ballot.  These fascists are afraid of letting the American people make their own decisions.

More see Trump as electable after mug shot release, skipped debate: poll
BY LAUREN SFORZA - 08/29/23
https://thehill.com/homenews/4176676-more-see-trump-as-electable-after-mug-shot-release-skipped-debate-poll/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 30, 2023, 11:41:54 AM
McConnell froze again today. Time to go. Time for a candidate to put in term limits on their list of talking points.

Biden, Fetterman, Feinstein and McConnell .. . all the type of people you would see presiding over the fall of an empire.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2FDXECXUAAYGOl?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on August 30, 2023, 12:16:04 PM
McConnell froze again today. Time to go. Time for a candidate to put in term limits on their list of talking points.

Biden, Fetterman, Feinstein and McConnell .. . all the type of people you would see presiding over the fall of an empire.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2FDXECXUAAYGOl?format=jpg&name=small)

Term limits and age limits.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 30, 2023, 12:31:35 PM
Term limits and age limits.


You can also add in wealth limits accrued in office.

There is ZERO reason a job that pays 200k a year generates hundreds of millions of net worth.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on August 30, 2023, 01:00:08 PM

You can also add in wealth limits accrued in office.

There is ZERO reason a job that pays 200k a year generates hundreds of millions of net worth.

Good point but it will be very difficult to enforce. Look at Pelosi and others. These scumbags are particularly conniving, especially when it comes to enriching themselves.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 31, 2023, 08:25:18 PM
I guess this means Lake is not running?

Masters considers another Arizona Senate bid, for Sinema seat, in possible GOP primary with Lake
"I think he is now under the impression that maybe Kari Lake isn’t going to run, because I’ll tell you if Lake and Blake are both in, he is wasting his time," a strategist said.
By Madeleine Hubbard
Updated: August 31, 2023
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/blake-masters-launch-another-senate-bid-new-challenge-against-sen-krysten
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on August 31, 2023, 08:32:25 PM
Incredibly weak bench.  They better start preparing, because I don't think Biden will run in 2024. 

If Biden Backs out of the 2024 Race, Who Can Take His Place?
By Ward Clark | August 30, 2023
https://redstate.com/wardclark/2023/08/30/if-biden-backs-out-of-the-2024-race-who-can-take-his-place-n2163238#google_vignette
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on August 31, 2023, 09:37:22 PM
Incredibly weak bench.  They better start preparing, because I don't think Biden will run in 2024. 

If Biden Backs out of the 2024 Race, Who Can Take His Place?
By Ward Clark | August 30, 2023
https://redstate.com/wardclark/2023/08/30/if-biden-backs-out-of-the-2024-race-who-can-take-his-place-n2163238#google_vignette

I will watch with great delight.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on September 01, 2023, 04:04:03 PM
McConnell froze again today. Time to go. Time for a candidate to put in term limits on their list of talking points.

Biden, Fetterman, Feinstein and McConnell .. . all the type of people you would see presiding over the fall of an empire.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2FDXECXUAAYGOl?format=jpg&name=small)
Pathetic. We need term limits to keep the blood refreshed.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 01, 2023, 06:37:17 PM
Incredibly weak bench.  They better start preparing, because I don't think Biden will run in 2024. 

If Biden Backs out of the 2024 Race, Who Can Take His Place?
By Ward Clark | August 30, 2023
https://redstate.com/wardclark/2023/08/30/if-biden-backs-out-of-the-2024-race-who-can-take-his-place-n2163238#google_vignette


RFK Jr.   

He's a trojan donkey ™ .
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 04, 2023, 11:21:52 AM

RFK Jr.   

He's a trojan donkey ™ .

Better than Kamala Harris and the rest.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 04, 2023, 11:22:23 AM
It's Trump's race to lose four and a half months before the first votes for the GOP presidential nomination
Former President Trump's history-making 4 indictments have only fueled the former president's support among likely Republican primary voters, according to polls
By Paul Steinhauser Fox News
Published September 4, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trumps-race-lose-four-half-months-ahead-first-votes-gop-presidential-nomination
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 04, 2023, 11:23:22 AM
Poll: Donald Trump and Joe Biden Tied in 2024 Matchup
HANNAH BLEAU  4 Sep 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/09/04/poll-donald-trump-joe-biden-tied-2024-matchup/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 04, 2023, 11:24:22 AM
ABC: SHOCKING Trump Tied With Biden Despite 'Baggage'
Kevin Tober
September 3rd, 2023
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kevin-tober/2023/09/03/abc-shocking-trump-tied-biden-despite-baggage
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on September 04, 2023, 12:43:15 PM
ABC: SHOCKING Trump Tied With Biden Despite 'Baggage'
Kevin Tober
September 3rd, 2023
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kevin-tober/2023/09/03/abc-shocking-trump-tied-biden-despite-baggage

Truly shocking that Biden with all his baggage still polls that high.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on September 04, 2023, 02:07:15 PM
Truly shocking that Biden with all his baggage still polls that high.
The media protection and deflection hides and denies as much as possible.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 04, 2023, 02:07:44 PM
Truly shocking that Biden with all his baggage still polls that high.

Not with the media running cover for him.  People who get their news from CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, etc. have no idea how corrupt Biden is. 

They also don't report on how the man is clearly physically and mentally disabled.

Minor example.  When Biden was on Maui, he couldn't pronounce anyone's name right.  Then to try and detract from the fact he couldn't say or remember Maui Mayor Rick Bissen, he referred to him as a man who looks like an NFL defensive lineman.  Not a huge deal, but when you take delusional moments like that and stack them, it's obvious the POTUS needs to be in a care home.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 04, 2023, 02:28:21 PM
JAMES CRAIG: This Ex-Police Chief Knows Real Leadership. It Looks Like Donald Trump
JAMES CRAIG
CONTRIBUTOR
September 01, 2023

I rose through the ranks as a beat cop starting in the Detroit and Los Angeles Police Departments. I then served as police chief in three cities: Portland, ME; Cincinnati, OH; and then I returned home to Detroit, MI. I’ve seen every kind of crime, every kind of loss. I know what makes communities strong and what breaks them. I’ve seen despair, and I’ve seen hope. I know what makes streets safe — and I know what happens when violence runs rampant. One thing I know for sure: Leadership makes all the difference, and that starts at the top. In America today, that leadership is sorely lacking.

Under President Donald J. Trump the economy was stronger & the streets were safer — in fact the world was safer — while America’s southern border was being strengthened & American energy was being celebrated and utilized. It was a proud time to be an American.

Yet nearly three years after President Trump left office President Joe Biden has managed, almost miraculously, to reverse these achievements. Now, instead of an American revival, we witness city police departments struggling to hire enough recruits to offset attrition rates and maintain proper readiness, since men and women are understandably not eager to put their lives at risk everyday while their leader in Washington DC denigrates their sacrifices and vilifies their service.

Leadership matters, and our nation’s current cast of leadership is creating problems which are reverberating across the country.

Which is exactly why I, alongside millions, want President Trump to serve as President of the United States again. (RELATED: ADAM WEISS: Trump Makes Dominating The Competition Look Easy)

There are undoubtedly some young Americans on the Presidential-hopeful stage right now with bright futures, holding both great potential and original ideas, who demonstrate clearly that America has waiting in the wings the right men and women ready to continue serving and leading our country when their time ultimately arrives.

But President Trump being up by fifty points is no fluke — Americans remember the resounding success of his presidency, the signal of his policy achievements rather than the noise of the media spins, sharply juxtaposed with the failures of the Biden Administration currently in power. And while Americans know there is no clear, concise solution to fixing the problems plaguing America today, they do know there is an obviously clear step they can take to begin to fix those problems, and it is a step towards the voting booth to elect Donald Trump.

And Americans know two other seemingly obvious truths which somehow confound the media: firstly, as many indictments can be issued as the Justice Department can mass produce but in America a man is innocent until proven guilty, and secondly, no matter what the media and Democrats attempt to do to district Americans from problems, deep complex problems, which exist in our country, those problems are not going away and Americans suffer everyday because of their continued unchecked existence.

Take the inflation crushing Americans from coast to coast — the average household in July spent $709 more on goods and services than they did on that same basket of goods and services two years ago, and gas prices alone today are 68 cents higher than where they were two years ago.

This economic damage is shattering to Americans, but what might be even more insulting and bewildering is that instead of honesty from the Biden Administration, honesty that the daily burglarization of American pocketbooks is a real problem, instead of honesty the Biden White House press team doles out spin about America’s healthy economic environment and the resounding success of Bidenomics, as if they are intent on gaslighting their way to reelection. There is not even basic recognition of the dire economic problems, let alone acceptance of responsibility and eagerness to begin solving the issues. There is absolutely no leadership.

With rising crime and failing education systems, the playbooks are similar — obfuscate & ignore. In America today, from the most rural, off the map school district to the most desolate, forgotten urban elementary school, math and reading scores decline like clockwork, with reading scores dropping to their lowest levels since 1992 and math scores falling to their lowest recorded rates. And these failures in education tie directly into crime, with failed students entering the pipeline to the criminal underworld, which explains how car thefts in the first 6 months of 2023 are up over 100% from the same period in 2019. But where is the outrage emanating from President Biden?

While America is failing its children and ignoring the safety of its own citizens, Biden looks afar to Ukraine, sending hundreds billions of dollars which could be spent revitalizing schools and building a national student body capable of reading and writing and problem solving and ready to tackle the next generation of national problems. And American “leaders,” those entrenched in the Beltway who fashion themselves our brain trust, cheer President Biden on as he prints more currency without concern for the value of the dollars his own citizens require, without questioning whether such money would be more wisely spent combating the rising amounts of fentanyl pouring across our border, without questioning whether we are taking the steps necessary to ensure China does not overtake us on the global stage.

Leadership matters, and President Biden is not providing it, and Americans are suffering because of it, and change is needed today. (RELATED: RASHEED WALTERS: The Case For Donald Trump)

President Trump was not and is not perfect, and I very much doubt President Trump would ever claim infallibility, but he never saw a problem he was not ready to confront, and today Americans need to accept that problems are building up while Washington leaders are unready to confront them.

So President Trump needs to win this election, and while in Washington again he is going to need other leaders supporting him who are unafraid of these problems Biden has created, leaders ready and eager to work towards tackling the issues confronting America.

Leadership matters, and America needs leaders ready to state boldly the obvious: America is in trouble, but we are going to get to work and fix our country.

Chief James Craig is the former Police Chief in the City of Detroit from 2013 to 2021. He previously served as the Police Chief of Cincinnati, OH and Portland ME, and as a police officer in the City of Los Angeles.

https://dailycaller.com/2023/09/01/opinion-this-ex-police-chief-knows-real-leadership-it-looks-like-donald-trump-james-craig/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on September 04, 2023, 02:44:35 PM
Not with the media running cover for him.  People who get their news from CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, etc. have no idea how corrupt Biden is. 

They also don't report on how the man is clearly physically and mentally disabled.

Minor example.  When Biden was on Maui, he couldn't pronounce anyone's name right.  Then to try and detract from the fact he couldn't say or remember Maui Mayor Rick Bissen, he referred to him as a man who looks like an NFL defensive lineman.  Not a huge deal, but when you take delusional moments like that and stack them, it's obvious the POTUS needs to be in a care home.

LOL!

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 05, 2023, 11:30:05 AM
Ed Rollins: 'No One Is Going to Defeat President Trump'
By Eric Mack    |   Monday, 04 September 2023

The window has closed on those hoping to defeat former President Donald Trump, even a former vocal Ron DeSantis supporter has now admitted on Newsmax.

"No one in the Republican primaries is going to beat, defeat President Trump," Ed Rollins, a former adviser to President Ron Reagan, told "Sunday Report."

"He has a strong, solid base. It's gotten stronger as he's gone through these terrible indictments. The fact that he's been indicted on 91 counts is just absurd."

President Joe Biden's Justice Department has effectively run a picket fence defense on the White House by indicting Trump and sucking up all the Republican Party oxygen, distracting from the real issues facing America.

"At the end of the day here, we're going to spend all of our time watching trials or listening to trials analysis as opposed to discussing the issues," Rollins, who was once one of those encouraging DeSantis to run, told host Joe Pinion.

"This is a very vulnerable President Biden, and the former president can stand up there and take everything apart from the immigration to the economy and what have you.

"And unfortunately the challenge will be to breakthrough when you've got all this legal stuff, and I think to a certain extent Republicans ought to be talking about those issues, not about Trump's legal problems."

The fundraising within the Republican Party has been stretched in what has been an expensive GOP presidential primary to date, and Rollins suggested there needs to be some consolidation to help the eventual nominee in ultimately defeating the true enemies in the Democratic Party.

"Republican donors, small and large, have been pressed pretty hard the last couple of years both of President Trump and also for the Senate candidates, and they will be again," Rollins told Pinion.

"The thing that worries me about the president is that he's got such enormous legal challenges and the cost of paying for those, which he's paid most of his own fees out of his part of his PACs."

Trump is a self-made billionaire, but winning an election requires more than his own money, according to Rollins.

"For the first time, people are starting to talk about it: Is he going to have enough money to go all the way?" Rollins continued. "Certainly enough money to go all the way in the primaries, but he's going to have to do things differently than he's ever done before.

"And you may have to tap into some of his own personal billions, which he hasn't to date."

Trump's legal challenges are going to be a vacuum on campaign cash, perhaps just as the Biden backers have intended amid the weaponization of justice against their prime political opponent.

"When you think in the term of it could be $500,000 a week for legal fees by the time you get these four trials gone," Rollins concluded. "It's enormous costs and certainly that's not benefiting voters, not benefiting President Trump any."

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/ed-rollins-donald-trump-gop/2023/09/04/id/1133112/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 05, 2023, 11:36:15 AM
Dems cannot run on their platform or real world successes, they can only smear with the same media machine that keeps the truth from coming out.

These economic reports are not going to be able to be faked for another year.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 05, 2023, 07:25:46 PM
Dems cannot run on their platform or real world successes, they can only smear with the same media machine that keeps the truth from coming out.

These economic reports are not going to be able to be faked for another year.

Correct.  They don't run on issues, because the public doesn't agree with things like cutting off the balls of minors.  They don't run on successes, because they don't really have any.  They rely on fear, dishonesty, and emotion.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 05, 2023, 07:27:21 PM
He's right.  It will come down to a handful of counties in a handful of states, just like 2016 and 2020.

The 2024 Election Will Be Decided in 7 Key Counties
https://rumble.com/v3f3ylc-the-2024-election-will-be-decided-in-7-key-counties-we-can-win-this.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 06, 2023, 11:40:49 AM
Mark R. Levin
@marklevinshow

In 1858, Abraham Lincoln challenged Sen. Stephen Douglas to seven 3-hour debates in congressional districts throughout Illinois.  Lincoln was the Republican nominee, Douglas the Democrat nominee for senator.  Even though the state legislature selected the senator, the two candidates agreed it was very important that both present their views, especially about slavery, to the citizens of the state.  Plus, it could have an impact on how the legislature would eventually vote.  The role of the press back then was basically to transcribe what the two men said at each debate and make it available to the general public; they were not moderators of any of the debates.  The debates were public events.  People from all walks of life would attend.  Douglas would win re-election on the vote of the legislature, but it was fairly close.  In 1860, the transcribed debates were published in a book, which Lincoln used, in part, to run for president in 1860.  Lincoln would win barely 40% of the popular vote but won the presidency via the Electoral College. So much for eliminating the Electoral College.  If Lincoln had not won, it's very like the United States would have dissolved.

If debates were conducted this way in America today, where serious candidates with some level of support beyond 5% debate each other for a period of several hours, without interruption by press-directed questions but instead debate rules negotiated and agreed to in advance by the two major parties or even the two or three major/leading candidates, I believe the nation would benefit enormously.

The 1860 election was among the most important, if not the most important, in American history.  The next such election will be 2024.  The issues of secession, slavery, and nullification were all on the table.  Dred Scott had been decided (wrongly) by the Supreme Court just a few years earlier.  Today, the issue of the Constitution and the Republic are also on the table, as the same Democrat Party seeks to replace them with its own ideology and the relentless use of governmental power in ways once thought unimaginable.  From CRT and the war on the nuclear family, to indicting and seeking the imprisonment of the leading Republican running for President as well as others opposed the Democrat Party policies, from protecting the current Democrat President from investigation for widespread criminality, to the Democrat Party regime seeking to destroy the independence of the Supreme Court and alter the voting system to empower itself and disenfranchise tens of millions of voters (mostly Republicans), from eviscerating the Bill of Rights and the nation's sovereign borders, and so much more -- with a Democrat Party press cheering all the way -- the 2024 election will likely determine if we are nation of liberty or tyranny.

Incredibly, there will never be a series of long form debates between the Republican and Democrat nominees for president in 2024 because the eventual Democrat Party nominee is mentally incapable of speaking beyond a few soundbites.  That would've been absolutely unacceptable in 1858.  Back then, the press would've mocked and humiliated Joe Biden, not serve as his stenographers and chief defenders.  But today, we do not have a free press.  We have a press that is free to undermine our country.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 06, 2023, 11:41:29 AM
Of course Biden's age is a legitimate voter concern
So is Trump's, but an extra four years makes a difference, and it could be the difference in the election.
NATE SILVER
SEP 4, 2023
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.natesilver.net%2Fp%2Fof-course-bidens-age-is-a-legitimate
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 06, 2023, 12:45:41 PM
Biden is wearing a mask today in public. Foreshadowing of what is to come.

Does this look like a person that can run again?

(https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/2023-09-06_05-48-52.jpg?itok=CVjYVhAT)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on September 06, 2023, 04:54:23 PM
Not with the media running cover for him.  People who get their news from CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, etc. have no idea how corrupt Biden is. 

They also don't report on how the man is clearly physically and mentally disabled.

Minor example.  When Biden was on Maui, he couldn't pronounce anyone's name right.  Then to try and detract from the fact he couldn't say or remember Maui Mayor Rick Bissen, he referred to him as a man who looks like an NFL defensive lineman.  Not a huge deal, but when you take delusional moments like that and stack them, it's obvious the POTUS needs to be in a care home.

The inability to remember folks’ names is a curse. It is rude. It causes hurt feelings. It is embarrassing. I know this for a fact because I have had a lifelong problem remembering names and over the past almost 80 years it has not gotten any better. It must be some kind of mental block. It is one of the many reasons I would never run for President of the U.S.  ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 06, 2023, 06:37:08 PM
The inability to remember folks’ names is a curse. It is rude. It causes hurt feelings. It is embarrassing. I know this for a fact because I have had a lifelong problem remembering names and over the past almost 80 years it has not gotten any better. It must be some kind of mental block. It is one of the many reasons I would never run for President of the U.S.  ;D

This isn't just about Biden forgetting the names of people he works with.  It's about his obvious steep mental decline that makes him unfit for public office.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 06, 2023, 07:44:04 PM
This isn't just about Biden forgetting the names of people he works with.  It's about his obvious steep mental decline that makes him unfit for public office.


Kamala Harris 'Ready To Take Over' As President If Biden Can't Do Job

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/kamala-harris-ready-take-over-president-if-biden-unwell

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on September 07, 2023, 11:20:02 AM
Shitty millennial "journalists" at it again. Trying to divert attention away from Biden's age by using McConnell the fossil. They both should've been gone from politics 10 years ago.

McConnell’s freezes complicate Republican attacks on Biden’s age

Joe Biden and Mitch McConnell struck up a friendship during their nearly quarter-century in the Senate together. Now in their 80s, the Democratic president and the Senate GOP leader appear to be giving political cover to each other as they fend off questions about their advanced age and health issues.

Notably, McConnell, R-Ky., 81, hasn’t joined Donald Trump, 77, and other Republicans who have attacked Biden’s age, health and mental acuity as he seeks re-election.

And after McConnell’s second freeze-up last week, Biden was one of the first to call McConnell, telling reporters that his “friend” sounded like “his old self” and that such episodes are a “part of his recovery” from a fall and a concussion this year.

McConnell’s recent freezing spells and other health concerns have created a campaign conundrum for Republicans who have ripped Biden as too old and frail to continue as commander-in-chief for a second term but continue to stand by McConnell as one of the top leaders of the GOP.

“Because he’s having health problems, it makes it more difficult to attack Biden," a Republican senator said, referring to McConnell. "And yet I think it’s pretty apparent President Biden has significant health problems. There’s probably a double standard."

“Both sides have problems with aging leaders," the senator said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/mcconnells-freezes-complicate-republican-attacks-bidens-age-rcna103682
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 07, 2023, 11:56:00 AM
Shitty millennial "journalists" at it again. Trying to divert attention away from Biden's age by using McConnell the fossil. They both should've been gone from politics 10 years ago.

McConnell’s freezes complicate Republican attacks on Biden’s age

Joe Biden and Mitch McConnell struck up a friendship during their nearly quarter-century in the Senate together. Now in their 80s, the Democratic president and the Senate GOP leader appear to be giving political cover to each other as they fend off questions about their advanced age and health issues.

Notably, McConnell, R-Ky., 81, hasn’t joined Donald Trump, 77, and other Republicans who have attacked Biden’s age, health and mental acuity as he seeks re-election.

And after McConnell’s second freeze-up last week, Biden was one of the first to call McConnell, telling reporters that his “friend” sounded like “his old self” and that such episodes are a “part of his recovery” from a fall and a concussion this year.

McConnell’s recent freezing spells and other health concerns have created a campaign conundrum for Republicans who have ripped Biden as too old and frail to continue as commander-in-chief for a second term but continue to stand by McConnell as one of the top leaders of the GOP.

“Because he’s having health problems, it makes it more difficult to attack Biden," a Republican senator said, referring to McConnell. "And yet I think it’s pretty apparent President Biden has significant health problems. There’s probably a double standard."

“Both sides have problems with aging leaders," the senator said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/mcconnells-freezes-complicate-republican-attacks-bidens-age-rcna103682


It's childish and a poor comparison. Nobody who is conservative cares if McConnell is there or not.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 07, 2023, 01:02:37 PM

Kamala Harris 'Ready To Take Over' As President If Biden Can't Do Job

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/kamala-harris-ready-take-over-president-if-biden-unwell

I see a possible scenario of Biden stepping down before the election (due to scandal, obvious mental incompetence, etc.) so Harris can run as the incumbent.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 07, 2023, 08:53:09 PM
I see a possible scenario of Biden stepping down before the election (due to scandal, obvious mental incompetence, etc.) so Harris can run as the incumbent.


She would join the brainless ranks of Fetterman, Biden, Feinstein, AOC, etc as the perfect leftist candidate. Meanwhile Obammer still in the background following the plan.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 07, 2023, 09:14:15 PM

She would join the brainless ranks of Fetterman, Biden, Feinstein, AOC, etc as the perfect leftist candidate. Meanwhile Obammer still in the background following the plan.

This has to be the dumbest Pres/VP duo in American history. 

I heard someone say today that they believe Biden will drop out before the election and the Dems will pick Whitmer as the nominee and try and make the election about abortion.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on September 07, 2023, 10:20:01 PM
This has to be the dumbest Pres/VP duo in American history. 

I heard someone say today that they believe Biden will drop out before the election and the Dems will pick Whitmer as the nominee and try and make the election about abortion.

My continual hang-up is, how do the Democrats surrender the incumbency?  Someone (perhaps here) suggested that Newsom could appoint Harris to the Senate (after a few hard elbows to get Feinstein to resign), Biden nominates somebody as VP, and then Biden resigns.  Voilà: a new face as president with no record to criticize.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2023, 05:23:08 AM
Biden May Be Facing an Election Unwinnable by Conventional Means
Front Page Magazine ^ | 6 Sep, 2023 | Daniel Greenfield
Posted on 9/6/2023, 8:19:47 AM by MtnClimber

The more the election becomes conventionally unwinnable, the more it will be waged unconventionally.

Remember the “conventional” part.

Elections don’t just come down to swaying the electorate, but increasingly to turning out your base. The Dems are parasitically dependent on black voter turnout. Especially with Latino and Asian voters becoming more erratic. While some Republicans are touting gains among black men, the thing to remember is that they vote in small numbers and the actual Democrat base is the ‘church lady’ electorate. Older black women.

A threat to the Dem black electorate is politically fatal. Or at least it ought to be. And things look grim.

Mr. Biden’s weakness among nonwhite voters is broad, spanning virtually every demographic category and racial group, including a 72-11 lead among Black voters and a 47-35 lead among Hispanic registrants. The sample of Asian voters is not large enough to report, though nonwhite voters who aren’t Black or Hispanic — whether Asian, Native American, multiracial or something else — back Mr. Biden by just 40-39. In all three cases, Mr. Biden’s tallies are well beneath his standing in the last election.

Those are still majorities, but they’re increasingly feeble ones.

Dems don’t win by scoring less than three-quarters of the black vote and the Hispanic vote isn’t supposed to be this close. Biden is within a margin of error of losing the general mass non-white voters.

These are bad numbers, but the numbers were also bad in 2022. What the Dems did was focus heavily on turning out the new emerging base, upscale young white voters with college degrees. Republicans have made crucial inroads among working-class minority voters, but Democrats have more than compensated for it by gobbling up suburban and upscale urban white voters. That Kung Fu move worked pretty well in 2022.

And the Democrats have learned even more heavily on abortion, global warming and LGBTQ issues.

The problem is that this just worsens the drift. The more you court a different set of voters, the worse the bleeding among your existing base gets. Both Republicans and Democrats are experiencing this. A lot of suburban more liberal Republicans have left because they don’t like the party’s new tone, but likewise minority voters are leaving because they think the Democrats have become a woke hipster party.

The Times/Siena data suggests the emergence of a fairly clear education gap among nonwhite voters, as Mr. Biden loses ground among less affluent nonwhite voters and those without a degree. Overall, he retains a 61-23 lead among nonwhite college graduates, compared with a mere 49-31 lead among those without a four-year degree.

And the white working-class vote obviously got on a boat and sailed away.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 08, 2023, 05:59:00 AM
Biden May Be Facing an Election Unwinnable by Conventional Means
Front Page Magazine ^ | 6 Sep, 2023 | Daniel Greenfield
Posted on 9/6/2023, 8:19:47 AM by MtnClimber

The more the election becomes conventionally unwinnable, the more it will be waged unconventionally.

Remember the “conventional” part.

Elections don’t just come down to swaying the electorate, but increasingly to turning out your base. The Dems are parasitically dependent on black voter turnout. Especially with Latino and Asian voters becoming more erratic. While some Republicans are touting gains among black men, the thing to remember is that they vote in small numbers and the actual Democrat base is the ‘church lady’ electorate. Older black women.

A threat to the Dem black electorate is politically fatal. Or at least it ought to be. And things look grim.

Mr. Biden’s weakness among nonwhite voters is broad, spanning virtually every demographic category and racial group, including a 72-11 lead among Black voters and a 47-35 lead among Hispanic registrants. The sample of Asian voters is not large enough to report, though nonwhite voters who aren’t Black or Hispanic — whether Asian, Native American, multiracial or something else — back Mr. Biden by just 40-39. In all three cases, Mr. Biden’s tallies are well beneath his standing in the last election.

Those are still majorities, but they’re increasingly feeble ones.

Dems don’t win by scoring less than three-quarters of the black vote and the Hispanic vote isn’t supposed to be this close. Biden is within a margin of error of losing the general mass non-white voters.

These are bad numbers, but the numbers were also bad in 2022. What the Dems did was focus heavily on turning out the new emerging base, upscale young white voters with college degrees. Republicans have made crucial inroads among working-class minority voters, but Democrats have more than compensated for it by gobbling up suburban and upscale urban white voters. That Kung Fu move worked pretty well in 2022.

And the Democrats have learned even more heavily on abortion, global warming and LGBTQ issues.

The problem is that this just worsens the drift. The more you court a different set of voters, the worse the bleeding among your existing base gets. Both Republicans and Democrats are experiencing this. A lot of suburban more liberal Republicans have left because they don’t like the party’s new tone, but likewise minority voters are leaving because they think the Democrats have become a woke hipster party.

The Times/Siena data suggests the emergence of a fairly clear education gap among nonwhite voters, as Mr. Biden loses ground among less affluent nonwhite voters and those without a degree. Overall, he retains a 61-23 lead among nonwhite college graduates, compared with a mere 49-31 lead among those without a four-year degree.

And the white working-class vote obviously got on a boat and sailed away.


We are never going to see a "normal" election ever again. This whole thing is circling the toilet and as it does the distortions in truth will amplify.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2023, 08:38:14 AM
My continual hang-up is, how do the Democrats surrender the incumbency?  Someone (perhaps here) suggested that Newsom could appoint Harris to the Senate (after a few hard elbows to get Feinstein to resign), Biden nominates somebody as VP, and then Biden resigns.  Voilà: a new face as president with no record to criticize.

Nothing would surprise me.  It's all a cesspool. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2023, 09:19:06 AM
More evidence that the Democrat establishment is done with the useful idiot and might force him out.

James Carville sounds the alarm on Biden's sinking poll numbers, age concerns: 'Troubling'
Biden has a clear 'age problem,' the veteran strategist says
By Jeffrey Clark Fox News
Published September 8, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/media/james-carville-sounds-alarm-bidens-sinking-poll-numbers-age-concerns-troubling
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2023, 10:50:03 AM
These loser democrat cultists need to all STFU - they voted for this! 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on September 08, 2023, 02:14:10 PM
My continual hang-up is, how do the Democrats surrender the incumbency?  Someone (perhaps here) suggested that Newsom could appoint Harris to the Senate (after a few hard elbows to get Feinstein to resign), Biden nominates somebody as VP, and then Biden resigns.  Voilà: a new face as president with no record to criticize.

This theory seems complex and therefore rather unlikely to happen. Is there anyone in politics with no record to criticize? If by some quirk there was, the opposition would invent a scandal.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on September 08, 2023, 06:24:34 PM
This theory seems complex and therefore rather unlikely to happen. Is there anyone in politics with no record to criticize? If by some quirk there was, the opposition would invent a scandal.

I agree that it's complex; I can't sort it out.  To clarify, little or no record as president i.e. a bright and shiny face takes office in the spring or summer of 2024.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on September 08, 2023, 06:44:15 PM
I agree that it's complex; I can't sort it out.  To clarify, little or no record as president i.e. a bright and shiny face takes office in the spring or summer of 2024.

A bight shiny face to take office is an excellent idea as is it being someone without prior Presidential baggage. As I suspect you have done, I have tried to imagine various scenarios for the 2024 primary and general elections and nothing seems to jell. So, like you, I can't sort this out. There are more possibilities than I think we have seen in previous elections. Electing the right person to the U.S. Presidency gets tougher and tougher and more absurd with each new election. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2023, 06:55:54 PM
Jack Smith is probably furiously working on another indictment. 

NEW CNN POLL:

"Donald Trump, 47%, Joe Biden, 46%...There was not a single poll conducted by CNN during the entire 2020 cycle in which Donald Trump got a higher share of the vote than Joe Biden did, so this is a vastly different picture from what we saw four years ago..."
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2023, 07:17:13 PM
Trump leads, followed by second tier of four candidates in ISU/Civiqs poll
(https://www.news.iastate.edu/media/2023/09/L2QH.jpg)
https://www.news.iastate.edu/news/2023/09/08/24caucus-poll1
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2023, 07:18:23 PM
They did it to Bernie too.

RFK Jr Catches Democrats Rigging Primary, Issues Warning: ‘It Is Simply Impossible to Challenge Biden’
David Hawkins  September 8, 2023
https://slaynews.com/news/robert-kennedy-busts-dems-rigging-primary-issues-warning-if-the-dnc-is-going-to-rig-it-so-it-is-simply-impossible-to-challenge-biden-then-i-need-to/?utm_source=mailpoet&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-newsletter
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on September 08, 2023, 07:51:18 PM
Jack Smith is probably furiously working on another indictment. 

NEW CNN POLL:

"Donald Trump, 47%, Joe Biden, 46%...There was not a single poll conducted by CNN during the entire 2020 cycle in which Donald Trump got a higher share of the vote than Joe Biden did, so this is a vastly different picture from what we saw four years ago..."
We know how democrats love their polls.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on September 08, 2023, 09:47:08 PM
We know how democrats love their polls.

Guess you don't follow Trump's Truth Social daily multiple posts and his several per day campaign fund raising requests via email. Talk about someone who loves their polls. He literally can't stop talking about where he ranks on them, (of course as per usual, he exaggerates to make his numbers look more favorable).

I am a proud Democrat. I could care less about the polls this early on. They are not accurate on election day, why would anyone care where they are now? 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2023, 03:43:31 AM
Guess you don't follow Trump's Truth Social daily multiple posts and his several per day campaign fund raising requests via email. Talk about someone who loves their polls. He literally can't stop talking about where he ranks on them, (of course as per usual, he exaggerates to make his numbers look more favorable).

I am a proud Democrat. I could care less about the polls this early on. They are not accurate on election day, why would anyone care where they are now?


Proud democrat ?   Why.    Denial and senility has taken over completely to your brain.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 09, 2023, 05:21:36 AM
We know how democrats love their poles.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on September 09, 2023, 08:52:10 AM
Guess you don't follow Trump's Truth Social daily multiple posts and his several per day campaign fund raising requests via email. Talk about someone who loves their polls. He literally can't stop talking about where he ranks on them, (of course as per usual, he exaggerates to make his numbers look more favorable).

I am a proud Democrat. I could care less about the polls this early on. They are not accurate on election day, why would anyone care where they are now?
Of course I don't, I'm not obsessed with Trump like you liberals are. ;)
Why do you follow someone you hate? Maybe it's jealousy? A little envy? You wish you were as rich and spry at his age? Maybe you're upset that he can smile while you liberals are miserable cunts?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on September 09, 2023, 04:15:23 PM

Proud democrat ?   Why.    Denial and senility has taken over completely to your brain.

I will keep what you just posted in mind. I am finally having that annual 'wellness check' on Monday. I may or may not report the results of the cognitive test on Getbig. On the other hand, if it isn't good, I could just lie about it like Trump and Biden do.  ;)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 10, 2023, 10:54:33 AM
I will keep what you just posted in mind. I am finally having that annual 'wellness check' on Monday. I may or may not report the results of the cognitive test on Getbig. On the other hand, if it isn't good, I could just lie about it like Trump and Biden do.  ;)


Only leftists get a cognitive test at the proctologist.  ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on September 10, 2023, 03:01:39 PM

Only leftists get a cognitive test at the proctologist.  ;D

LOL, guess that leaves me out since I have never had an appointment with a proctologist. ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 11, 2023, 02:18:41 PM
This is why who "wins" the "election" doesn't matter IMO.

Everyone should stare at this a few times a week to understand the scale of the issue.

https://www.usdebtclock.org/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on September 11, 2023, 05:02:31 PM
LOL, guess that leaves me out since I have never had an appointment with a proctologist. ;D
That's not safe at your age and sexual promiscuity.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on September 11, 2023, 06:39:13 PM
That's not safe at your age and sexual promiscuity.

Damn, I wish I was sexually promiscuous. FYI, sexual promiscuity is just a pipe dream for 80-year-old men with no prostate and a testosterone deficiency. Why do you think I have so much free time to spend posting on Getbig? No sex = plenty of time to waste. But hey Chaos, thanks for the memories.  ;)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 11, 2023, 07:24:54 PM
Even with unprecedented election interference, they are afraid of losing.  They don't trust their candidate, the message, or the state of the country.

Third-party candidates will help Trump win
Robert Reich
If a third-party candidate takes even a small part of the anti-Trump vote away from Biden, Trump is likely to be returned to the White House
11 Sep 2023
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fcommentisfree%2F2023%2Fsep%2F11%2Frobert-reich-third-party-candidates-will-help-trump-win
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 11, 2023, 07:37:40 PM
Zogby: ‘Catastrophic’ disaster brewing for Biden reelection
by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist
September 08, 2023
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/zogby-catastrophic-disaster-brewing-for-biden-reelection
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 11, 2023, 07:39:31 PM
Trump picks up another big-name endorsement over Republican challengers in 2024 White House bid
By Brandon Gillespie , Paul Steinhauser Fox News
Published September 8, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-picks-big-name-endorsement-republican-challengers-2024-white-house-bid
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 11, 2023, 08:21:06 PM
Even with unprecedented election interference, they are afraid of losing.  They don't trust their candidate, the message, or the state of the country.

Third-party candidates will help Trump win
Robert Reich
If a third-party candidate takes even a small part of the anti-Trump vote away from Biden, Trump is likely to be returned to the White House
11 Sep 2023
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fcommentisfree%2F2023%2Fsep%2F11%2Frobert-reich-third-party-candidates-will-help-trump-win

Without the press on 24/7/365 defense the idea of re-election wouldn't even be out there. The eventuality of this husk being displaced is near 100% in a SANE world.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 12, 2023, 09:36:03 PM
Without the press on 24/7/365 defense the idea of re-election wouldn't even be out there. The eventuality of this husk being displaced is near 100% in a SANE world.

Yeah but we live in an upside world.   :-\
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 13, 2023, 08:58:12 AM
RFK Jr. openly talking about going 3rd party this week.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 13, 2023, 02:25:58 PM
RFK Jr. openly talking about going 3rd party this week.

This election is going to be wild. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 15, 2023, 03:30:11 PM
Trump Leads Biden in Critical 2024 Swing States: Reuters/Ipsos Poll
September 15, 2023
https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/trump-leads-biden-in-critical-2024-swing-states-reuters-ipsos-poll/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 15, 2023, 03:38:22 PM
South Carolina Poll: Trump Leads by 28, DeSantis Fourth
By Eric Mack   14 September 2023
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/south-carolina-battleground-poll/2023/09/14/id/1134447/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 15, 2023, 03:39:09 PM
The Calls to Drop Kamala Harris in 2024 Are Growing
Matt Vespa
September 14, 2023
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2023/09/14/politico-columnists-urging-biden-to-dump-kamala-n2628397
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on September 15, 2023, 03:45:48 PM
This election is going to be wild.

Not enough popcorn!  ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 15, 2023, 07:29:57 PM
 :o  Welp.  Take her off the VP short list.

EXCLUSIVE: Married South Dakota governor Kristi Noem and Trump advisor Corey Lewandowski have been having a years-long clandestine affair
DailyMail.com uncovered evidence of Lewandowski and Noem's fling: Dozens of trips that mixed business with pleasure, private flights and luxury resort stays
The pair met up Friday for a Trump campaign rally in Rapid City, South Dakota, but were careful to have no public interaction – despite being close for years
The two were first suspected of being romantically involved in 2021, but Noem scornfully dismissed the story as 'total garbage and a disgusting lie' at the time
By KEN SILVERSTEIN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and LAURA COLLINS, CHIEF INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER, IN RAPID CITY, SOUTH DAKOTA, FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: September 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12509093/Kristin-Noem-Corey-Lewandowski-secret-affair.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 15, 2023, 08:59:32 PM
:o  Welp.  Take her off the VP short list.

EXCLUSIVE: Married South Dakota governor Kristi Noem and Trump advisor Corey Lewandowski have been having a years-long clandestine affair
DailyMail.com uncovered evidence of Lewandowski and Noem's fling: Dozens of trips that mixed business with pleasure, private flights and luxury resort stays
The pair met up Friday for a Trump campaign rally in Rapid City, South Dakota, but were careful to have no public interaction – despite being close for years
The two were first suspected of being romantically involved in 2021, but Noem scornfully dismissed the story as 'total garbage and a disgusting lie' at the time
By KEN SILVERSTEIN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and LAURA COLLINS, CHIEF INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER, IN RAPID CITY, SOUTH DAKOTA, FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: September 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12509093/Kristin-Noem-Corey-Lewandowski-secret-affair.html

I’m not one for extra marital affairs, but when I see her on her commercials or giving a speech I break out in a cold sweat 🤣 She’s fine as hell
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 15, 2023, 09:01:17 PM
:o  Welp.  Take her off the VP short list.

EXCLUSIVE: Married South Dakota governor Kristi Noem and Trump advisor Corey Lewandowski have been having a years-long clandestine affair
DailyMail.com uncovered evidence of Lewandowski and Noem's fling: Dozens of trips that mixed business with pleasure, private flights and luxury resort stays
The pair met up Friday for a Trump campaign rally in Rapid City, South Dakota, but were careful to have no public interaction – despite being close for years
The two were first suspected of being romantically involved in 2021, but Noem scornfully dismissed the story as 'total garbage and a disgusting lie' at the time
By KEN SILVERSTEIN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and LAURA COLLINS, CHIEF INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER, IN RAPID CITY, SOUTH DAKOTA, FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: September 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12509093/Kristin-Noem-Corey-Lewandowski-secret-affair.html


Corey slanging that D.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 15, 2023, 09:18:43 PM
I’m not one for extra marital affairs, but when I see her on her commercials or giving a speech I break out in a cold sweat 🤣 She’s fine as hell


Corey slanging that D.

I’m a bit tied up, but when I’m free I will be updating the greatest thread on the Politics Board (Would You Hit It?) with your comments.   ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on September 15, 2023, 09:54:27 PM
:o  Welp.  Take her off the VP short list.

EXCLUSIVE: Married South Dakota governor Kristi Noem and Trump advisor Corey Lewandowski have been having a years-long clandestine affair
DailyMail.com uncovered evidence of Lewandowski and Noem's fling: Dozens of trips that mixed business with pleasure, private flights and luxury resort stays
The pair met up Friday for a Trump campaign rally in Rapid City, South Dakota, but were careful to have no public interaction – despite being close for years
The two were first suspected of being romantically involved in 2021, but Noem scornfully dismissed the story as 'total garbage and a disgusting lie' at the time
By KEN SILVERSTEIN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and LAURA COLLINS, CHIEF INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER, IN RAPID CITY, SOUTH DAKOTA, FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: September 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12509093/Kristin-Noem-Corey-Lewandowski-secret-affair.html

Would smash.

(https://governor.sd.gov/img/gov-photo2.jpg)

She's fit too, but would prefer her a little thicker:

(https://www.refinery29.com/images/10393339.jpg)

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 16, 2023, 01:16:24 AM
Nice delts.^
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: TheGrinch on September 17, 2023, 09:24:49 AM
Would smash.

(https://governor.sd.gov/img/gov-photo2.jpg)

She's fit too, but would prefer her a little thicker:

(https://www.refinery29.com/images/10393339.jpg)


TPTB shut her up REAL REAL quick witht he pandora papers to make her go away

I guess she wouldn't play her role and so they decided Desantis will take her place in the rothschild led novel that is the USA
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 18, 2023, 11:03:29 AM
McCarthy: Trump Will Be 2024 GOP Nominee, DeSantis ‘Not at the Same Level’
PAM KEY   17 Sep 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/09/17/mccarthy-trump-will-be-2024-gop-nominee-desantis-not-at-the-same-level/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 18, 2023, 11:04:19 AM
Trump says he likes the concept of a woman VP, but will pick the best person
Trump added that he hadn't given much thought to who his running mate would be.
By Charlotte Hazard
September 17, 2023
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/trump-says-he-likes-concept-woman-vp-will-pick-best-person?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 18, 2023, 07:37:09 PM
Braun becomes latest GOP senator to endorse Trump
BY ALEXANDER BOLTON - 09/18/23
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4210148-braun-becomes-latest-gop-senator-to-endorse-trump/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 18, 2023, 07:53:27 PM
Trump says he likes the concept of a woman VP, but will pick the best person
Trump added that he hadn't given much thought to who his running mate would be.
By Charlotte Hazard
September 17, 2023
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/trump-says-he-likes-concept-woman-vp-will-pick-best-person?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home


It's almost certainly going to be a woman.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 19, 2023, 10:32:30 AM

It's almost certainly going to be a woman.

Would not surprise me.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 19, 2023, 10:33:17 AM
Anxiety ripples through the Democratic Party over Biden
Story by Toluse Olorunnipa, Meryl Kornfield, Colby Itkowitz •
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/anxiety-ripples-through-the-democratic-party-over-biden/ar-AA1gUi5V
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 19, 2023, 01:19:06 PM
2024 ticket?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6aaJxdXMAA4RaI?format=jpg&name=360x360)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on September 19, 2023, 01:29:12 PM
2024 ticket?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6aaJxdXMAA4RaI?format=jpg&name=360x360)

Female President and male VP?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 19, 2023, 01:34:07 PM
Female President and male VP?

We always got jokes.  lol   ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 19, 2023, 11:43:52 PM
Trump now leads Biden in RCP polling average for first time in 2024 cycle, 45.2 to 44.6

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: falco on September 20, 2023, 02:06:20 AM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cu_3gkzOd-a/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 20, 2023, 04:13:23 AM
Trump now leads Biden in RCP polling average for first time in 2024 cycle, 45.2 to 44.6

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html

Its only going to grow larger.  Biden is the worst admn in my lifetime.  Far worse than obama or W or clinton
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 20, 2023, 07:44:59 PM
Its only going to grow larger.  Biden is the worst admn in my lifetime.  Far worse than obama or W or clinton

I didn't think anyone could be worse than Obama.  I was wrong.  Biden is a (barely) walking disaster. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 20, 2023, 07:46:03 PM
One thing for the White House to worry about
The corresponding numbers among independents — who tend to swing elections one way or the other — are not particularly encouraging for the president. By a nearly 2-to-1 margin (54% to 24%), they now believe Biden did something illegal regarding his son.

Last month that gap was narrower among independents: 47% to 25%. Largely as a result of this shift, the overall number of Americans who now think Biden did something illegal regarding Hunter has ticked up 4 percentage points to 48%.

Likewise, nearly half of Americans (47%) now think Biden and his family are corrupt, up from 45% in August and 42% in October 2022. Asked last month which family was “more corrupt,” 46% said the Trumps and 36% said the Bidens. Those numbers are now closer as well: 41% and 38%, respectively.

Perhaps relatedly, Biden led Trump last month by a solid margin (47% to 41%) in a hypothetical Election Day matchup between the 2024 Democratic and Republican frontrunners.

Now they are tied at 44% apiece among registered voters.


Poll: Americans not yet sold on Biden impeachment, but nearly half think he did something 'illegal' regarding son Hunter
Andrew Romano·West Coast Correspondent
September 20, 2023
https://www.yahoo.com/news/poll-americans-not-yet-sold-on-biden-impeachment-but-nearly-half-think-he-did-something-illegal-regarding-son-hunter-190011215.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 21, 2023, 11:07:03 AM
I didn't expect DeSantis to win, but I didn't expect him to be this bad.

CNN Poll: Trump leads in New Hampshire while Ramaswamy, Haley, Christie and DeSantis battle for second
By Jennifer Agiesta and Ariel Edwards-Levy, CNN
Published September 20, 2023
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/20/politics/cnn-poll-new-hampshire/index.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 22, 2023, 11:18:02 AM
CNN Poll: Biden Leads Trump in New Hampshire
By Nicole Wells    |  22 September 2023
https://www.newsmax.com/us/joe-biden-donald-trump-new-hampshire/2023/09/22/id/1135539/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 25, 2023, 10:55:52 PM
NBC's Kornacki: "Nothing But Good News" For Trump In Latest NBC 2024 Poll, Barely 40% Approve Of Biden
Posted By Tim Hains
September 24, 2023
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/09/24/nbcs_kornacki_nothing_but_good_news_for_trump_in_latest_nbc_2024_election_poll.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 26, 2023, 10:19:31 PM
The poll is clearly an outlier, but it's still funny to see these TDS people losing their minds.   :)

Polling expert loses it over new poll showing Trump is crushing Biden by double digits: 'So absurd on its face'
CHRIS ENLOE    September 25, 2023
https://www.theblaze.com/news/sabato-reaction-washington-post-abc-poll-trump-10-point-lead
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 27, 2023, 04:25:17 AM
The poll is clearly an outlier, but it's still funny to see these TDS people losing their minds.   :)

Polling expert loses it over new poll showing Trump is crushing Biden by double digits: 'So absurd on its face'
CHRIS ENLOE    September 25, 2023
https://www.theblaze.com/news/sabato-reaction-washington-post-abc-poll-trump-10-point-lead

They are still in denial
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 27, 2023, 11:31:48 AM
Trump gaining ground among Hispanic voters, poll shows
50% of Hispanic Republican voters said they would vote for Trump in the GOP primary
By Jamie Joseph Fox News
Published September 26, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-gaining-ground-among-hispanic-voters-poll-shows
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 27, 2023, 12:09:52 PM
Trump gaining ground among Hispanic voters, poll shows
50% of Hispanic Republican voters said they would vote for Trump in the GOP primary
By Jamie Joseph Fox News
Published September 26, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-gaining-ground-among-hispanic-voters-poll-shows

Its not that hard - everyone life was better under Trump than this disaster we have now. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 27, 2023, 04:25:37 PM
Its not that hard - everyone life was better under Trump than this disaster we have now.

True.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 27, 2023, 04:28:08 PM
Trump’s Surge Past Biden Blunts His GOP Rivals’ Primary Argument Against Him
Published 09/27/23
Joe Concha

The predominant argument against Donald Trump throughout this odd primary season has been one of electability. Nobody motivates the other side quite like Trump as evidenced by the 2020 election, so the argument goes, and thus someone else — perhaps Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-Fla.), former governor and UN ambassador Nikki Haley (R-S.C.), Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.), former Vice President Mike Pence, or entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy — is the only Republican who can beat President Joe Biden in the general election.

Yet polls in recent weeks have shown a decided shift to the former president. According to RealClearPolitics.com, Biden enjoyed a stretch of 11 straight major polls over the summer showing him tied or leading by as many as six points. But the month of September has been a disaster for the current president on multiple fronts, prompting even some of his allies on the left to urge him not to seek reelection.

Those fronts include:

The inflation report showing a second straight increase for the month, putting the Consumer Price Index number almost three times as high compared to when Biden took office.
Gas prices hitting their highest levels for 2023 in the month of September.

A slow and apathetic response to the Maui wildfire which included photos of Biden lounging on the beach and not visiting the island until 13 days after the blaze killed nearly 100 people. He promptly returned to vacation afterward.

The rollout of the “Bidenomics” messaging offensive, with the president and his team telling voters the economy is great. This flies in the face of the reality on the ground, with only 28% of voters saying the economy is better than it was two years ago.

Add in the United Auto Workers strike, a border crisis that has become so horrid that even NBC's TODAY show made it the lead story this past week, and the president's son being indicted on a gun charge, and it's safe to say Team Biden isn't enjoying their September.

Just how badly is the president struggling? Sitting at 37% approval in the most recent ABC News-Washington Post poll is one thing, but trailing in a hypothetical matchup against Trump by 10 points is quite another. At least when Biden has polled lower than usual in the past, Trump didn't necessarily benefit. But things appear to have changed lately.

On cue, many in the media demanded that we all ignore the Post-ABC News poll, including pollster Larry Sabato who called it a "ridiculous outlier" and "an embarrassment" to the Post and ABC.

Make no mistake, though, the trend is real. Another poll released by The Messenger/HarrisX this week shows Trump again with a relatively sizable lead over Biden, 46% to 41%. Overall, the last nine major polls showTrump tied or leading.

The reasons around why may be several. Perhaps enough Americans see the 91 felony counts against a leading presidential candidate and former president as politically motivated or as election interference. Perhaps Biden's age has made the electorate pessimistic that his best days are in front of him.

Many voters may not like Trump personally but, on the question of who they trust to better handle a top issue like the economy, more Americans say they trust Trump more than Biden, 47% to 36%. Narrowing that to independent voters, the margin in Trump's favorjumps by 20 points, 46% to 26%.

So as Trump's GOP opponents debate again at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley, Calif., without — again — the opportunity to debate him, one has to wonder what ammo they have left to somehow wrestle away the nomination. The obvious and enormous challenge for DeSantis, Ramaswamy, Haley or Scott is that — at least on tax policy, crime, immigration, the border, or education — there is no discernible difference between Trump's views and theirs. And when Trump's lead is anywhere from 44 to 50 points over his closest opponents, how can they make this race even remotely competitive, especially since Trump's base is as rock-solid as it gets in politics.

“I don’t know if there’s anything I can do to have an impact on this race,” Frayda Levin, a Republican donor from New Jersey, told CNN this week. “Every Republican’s dilemma right now is: Do we try and undermine and destroy Trump, only to have it come back and haunt us because he’s the candidate, and it’s Trump or Biden?”

The only chance for anyone not named Trump seeking the nomination may be for Trump to be convicted in one of the four cases he currently faces.

“I think the chance of getting elected after being convicted of a felony is as close to zero as you can get,” DeSantis told CBS News recently.

But the Florida governor joined almost all of the GOP candidates on the Milwaukee debate stage in August in saying they would support Trump as the nominee even if he’s convicted, so there's that.

After the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol, Trump was as toxic as anyone in the country could be. It was almost impossible then to imagine he could possibly be competitive during a third run at the presidency. Now, it's looking like that he'll not only be the party nominee without breaking a sweat but very easily could occupy the Oval Office again in January 2025.

"I truly feel that in the end, we’re going to win. I think we’re going to win an election the likes of which nobody’s ever seen before," Trump predicted on Meet the Press recently. “I don’t think anything’s going to stop it. Nothing’s going to stop it, because people see what’s happened to our country.”

The argument against a Trump candidacy was a good one: He's unelectable. He's undisciplined. He's a walking get-out-the-vote ad for the Democratic Party. 

But, as we're seeing, even someone with dozens of felony counts against him could very well win back the presidency … likely leaving his opponents on another Republican debate stage, scratching their collective heads.

https://themessenger.com/opinion/trumps-surge-past-biden-blunts-his-gop-rivals-primary-argument-against-him
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 28, 2023, 11:27:13 AM
Former Arizona Gubernatorial Candidate Kari Lake to Announce Senate Bid Against Kyrsten Sinema
By Joe Cunningham | September 28, 2023
https://redstate.com/joesquire/2023/09/28/former-arizona-gubernatorial-candidate-kari-lake-announces-senate-bid-against-kyrsten-sinema-n2164405
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 28, 2023, 11:30:41 AM
Republicans' anti-Trump effort flounders as the former president cruises ahead
Republicans hoping for a different 2024 standard-bearer worry that it may be too late.
Sept. 25, 2023
By Vaughn Hillyard and Ben Kamisar
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/republicans-anti-trump-effort-flounders-rcna116977
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 28, 2023, 11:32:58 AM
Poll: Trump Opens Up Lead Over Biden (Exclusive)
While 57% of Democrats think Biden shouldn't run again, only 27% of Republicans say the same about Trump
Published 09/25/23
Matt Holt

Former President Donald Trump has opened up a lead over President Joe Biden, according to the latest Harris/Messenger poll conducted by HarrisX.

The poll, taken September 13-19 among 3,015 registered voters, found that Trump led Biden, 46%-41%. The margin of error was plus or minus 1.8 percentage points.

Trump has gained ground from the last Messenger/Harris poll conducted September 6-11, where Trump led Biden, 44%-43%.

Dritan Nesho, chief pollster and CEO at HarrisX said polls last week picked up on a bad news week for Biden—as Republicans barreled towards an impeachment inquiry and his son, Hunter, was indicted.

"Biden’s poll numbers will likely bounce back, but in general he’s begun to lag in national polls," Nesho said.

Eighty-six percent of Republicans backed Trump, while 80% of Democrats backed Biden. Independents backed Trump, 42%-34%, while 24% were undecided.

A combination photo of Republican Donald Trump and Democrat Joe Biden.JIM WATSON,SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images
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Forty percent of voters approve of Biden's job performance as president, while 56% disapprove. And only 31% say Biden should run for reelection, while 69% said that he should not seek another term.

Trump continues to enjoy stronger support from his political base. When asked if Trump should seek another term, 44% said he should, while 56% said he shouldn't.

While 57% of Democrats think Biden shouldn't run again, only 27% of Republicans say the same about Trump. A majority of Republicans (73%) believe Trump should seek the presidency again.

Trump remains the clear frontrunner for the GOP presidential nomination.

In the national GOP primary, Trump led with 56% support. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis was in a distant second place with 14%. Former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley and venture capitalist Vivek Ramaswamy were at 5% each, and 7% said they didn't know. All of the other candidates were at 3% or less.

DeSantis remains the most popular second-choice option. When respondents were asked who they would back if Trump didn't run for president, 35% said DeSantis, 17% said Ramaswamy, and 11% said Pence.

https://themessenger.com/politics/poll-trump-opens-up-lead-over-biden-exclusive
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on September 28, 2023, 06:11:23 PM
‘I Don’t Think So’: Trump Says It’s Unlikely Any GOP Candidates Will Be His VP
by: Jake Smith 09.28.2023 Source: The Daily Caller News Foundation
https://dcenquirer.com/i-dont-think-so-trump-says-its-unlikely-any-gop-candidates-will-be-his-vp
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 02, 2023, 05:12:22 AM
McCarthy showing his true colors....this was telegraphed a mile away. This is why I don't trust the Mark Levin types pushing for these gatekeepers anymore.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 02, 2023, 10:52:16 AM
Democrat presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. will exit the Democrat party and run for president as an Independent, Mediaite reported Friday.

Kennedy plans to announce his independent candidacy on October 9 in Pennsylvania, according to a text reviewed by Mediaite. Kennedy’s campaign also plans to launch “attack ads” against the Democrat National Committee (DNC) to “pave the way” for his announcement.

A Kennedy campaign insider told the outlet that Kennedy “feels that the DNC is changing the rules to exclude his candidacy, so an independent run is the only way to go.”

The insider’s comments align with remarks Kennedy made publicly earlier this month. Kennedy claimed the DNC is “trying to make sure that I can’t participate at all in the political process, and so I’m going to keep all my options open,” when a South Carolina voter questioned him about the possibility of a third-party run as an sindependent.

Kennedy confirmed a he will make a “major announcement” in Philadelphia on October 9 in a video statement posted online Friday.

I’m going to be in Philadelphia on October 9, to make a major announcement at the very birthplace of our nation,” Kennedy said. “I’m not going to tell you right now, exactly what that announcement will be. I can say, though, that if you’ve been waiting to come to one of my public events, this will be the one to come to.”

He explained he would share his “path to the White House and how we can all participate in healing our nation.”

“So how are we going to win against the established Washington interest? It’s not through playing the game by the corrupt rules that the corrupt powers and the vested interests have rigged to keep us all in their thrall,” Kennedy added. “Instead, we’re gonna have to rewrite the assumptions and change the habits of American politics.”

President Joe Biden has a large polling advantage over Kennedy, but Kennedy has surged in early primary states like South Carolina. However, Democrat operatives are fearful that an independent run by Kennedy would siphon votes away from Biden’s base.

Matt Bennett, cofounder of Third Way, a Democrat group trying to prevent a third-party ticket, said it “would be very bad” if Kennedy ran as a third-party candidate.

“We’ve been very clear that third parties in close elections can be very dangerous and would almost certainly hurt the president,” Bennett told the New York Times. “That would be true of a No Labels candidate and it would be true of RFK.”

The New York Times recently revealed that Kennedy met with Libertarian Party chair Angela McArdle in July while the two attended a political conference in Memphis. Kennedy “emphasized that he was committed to running as a Democrat but said that he considered himself very libertarian,” McArdle told the Times.

She said the two were “aligned on a lot of issues,” including the threat posed by the “deep state.”

“My perspective is that we are going to stay in touch in case he does decide to run,” McArdle said. “And he can contact me at any time if that’s the case.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/09/29/report-robert-f-kennedy-jr-to-exit-democrat-primary-run-as-independent/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 02, 2023, 11:07:43 AM
Voters Are Losing Faith in Joe Biden’s Democratic Party. How Much Will That Matter in 2024?
From questions of ideology to general competence, Democrats have lost Americans’ confidence since 2020, and the GOP is on the upswing
By Cameron Easley
September 25, 2023
https://pro.morningconsult.com/analysis/voter-confidence-democratic-party-2024-election
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 02, 2023, 11:38:09 AM
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 03, 2023, 06:49:07 PM
Pollster John McLaughlin: We Could Be Looking at an Electoral Landslide in 2024 for Donald Trump
October 3, 2023
https://tennesseestar.com/politics/pollster-john-mclaughlin-we-could-be-looking-at-an-electoral-landslide-in-2024-for-donald-trump/tennessee-star-staff/2023/10/03/?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 04, 2023, 06:48:26 PM
Poll: Trump Takes 2-Point Lead over Biden in Pennsylvania
NICK GILBERTSON   4 Oct 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/04/poll-trump-takes-2-point-lead-over-biden-in-pennsylvania/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 05, 2023, 06:47:49 AM
Soon there will only be one party, comrades. Another bad boy govt list to be on, or stop voting and don't be on it.


"The Biden FBI has 'quietly created a new category of extremists that it seeks to track and counter: Donald Trump's army of MAGA followers' ahead of the 2024 election, according to prolific (and well connected) anti-war journalist and political commentator, William Arkin, who has previously reported on the FBI's efforts to "Fight MAGA Terrorism."



https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi-creates-maga-extremist-category-targets-trump-supporters-ahead-2024-election
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 05, 2023, 12:42:23 PM
Soon there will only be one party, comrades. Another bad boy govt list to be on, or stop voting and don't be on it.


"The Biden FBI has 'quietly created a new category of extremists that it seeks to track and counter: Donald Trump's army of MAGA followers' ahead of the 2024 election, according to prolific (and well connected) anti-war journalist and political commentator, William Arkin, who has previously reported on the FBI's efforts to "Fight MAGA Terrorism."



https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi-creates-maga-extremist-category-targets-trump-supporters-ahead-2024-election

WTF.  They don't even hide this fascist crap anymore. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 06, 2023, 02:57:53 PM
MSNBC alarmed by Biden polling deficits on economy, sees 'big warning signs' for White House
'This is going to be very, very close,' Jonathan Lemire predicted of the 2024 race
By Kristine Parks Fox News
Published October 6, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-alarmed-biden-polling-deficits-economy-sees-big-warning-signs-white-house
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 06, 2023, 08:24:30 PM
MSNBC alarmed by Biden polling deficits on economy, sees 'big warning signs' for White House
'This is going to be very, very close,' Jonathan Lemire predicted of the 2024 race
By Kristine Parks Fox News
Published October 6, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-alarmed-biden-polling-deficits-economy-sees-big-warning-signs-white-house


Shouldn't be 25%. Clown world that things would be considered close.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 07, 2023, 12:47:43 AM
MSNBC alarmed by Biden polling deficits on economy, sees 'big warning signs' for White House
'This is going to be very, very close,' Jonathan Lemire predicted of the 2024 race
By Kristine Parks Fox News
Published October 6, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-alarmed-biden-polling-deficits-economy-sees-big-warning-signs-white-house

These people are sick.    Talk to literally anyone lately about the state of the country.  Worst Admn of my lifetime.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on October 07, 2023, 01:59:43 PM
These people are sick.    Talk to literally anyone lately about the state of the country.  Worst Admn of my lifetime.

You talk to different people than I do. Maybe it is an east coast versus west coast thing. But then, it is likely that I don't run around talking to people about the state of the country as much as you do. Like the saying goes, ‘misery loves company.’ You must be very miserable. How sad.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on October 07, 2023, 02:05:05 PM
These people are sick.    Talk to literally anyone lately about the state of the country.  Worst Admn of my lifetime.
I've listened to some random interviews on Politics from people in Oregon, the people there are sick!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on October 07, 2023, 02:08:29 PM
I've listened to some random interviews on Politics from people in Oregon, the people there are sick!

That being the case, it is good that you don't live here.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: IroNat on October 07, 2023, 03:58:16 PM
Certain parts of the country are strongly left or right.

State with lots of union and government employees are usually heavily Democrat.

Prime was a government employee and union rep and benefitted from Democrat policies which favor unions.

People vote with their wallet.

It is to be expected he would be a staunch Democrat.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on October 07, 2023, 04:12:23 PM
Certain parts of the country are strongly left or right.

State with lots of union and government employees are usually heavily Democrat.

Prime was a government employee and union rep and benefitted from Democrat policies which favor unions.

People vote with their wallet.

It is to be expected he would be a staunch Democrat.

Nothing wrong if someone wants to be a Democrat, or mostly a classic liberal - pro free speech, anti big company, anti government censorship, anti war.  But, as we've seen, so many of them have sold out their morals when Trump broke their minds.  The Democrats are now the censorship party, pro big tech and pharma, and pro ukraine war.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on October 07, 2023, 05:37:41 PM
That being the case, it is good that you don't live here.
How do you know where he lives ??? Maybe he's your neighbor in that pasty white liberal neighborhood protected by high fences and gates?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 07, 2023, 06:46:23 PM
You talk to different people than I do. Maybe it is an east coast versus west coast thing. But then, it is likely that I don't run around talking to people about the state of the country as much as you do. Like the saying goes, ‘misery loves company.’ You must be very miserable. How sad.
m
I guess so are 75% as well who say we are headed in the wrong direction.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: TheGrinch on October 09, 2023, 08:20:31 AM
90+ million votes this time..

PEDO for POTUS

Dominion gonna Dominion and not a dang thing you are going to do about it
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 09, 2023, 11:23:37 AM
DeSantis Crushed by Trump in Latest Florida, Iowa and New Hampshire Polls: ‘He’s Losing Everywhere’
The new data comes as the Florida governor shifts staff and resources to Iowa
Marc Caputo

In the clash of the two Florida men, former president Donald Trump is beating Ron DeSantis by 35 percentage points, according to a new poll of Republican presidential primary voters that underscores the challenges the governor’s faces in his home state and the early states.

“Where DeSantis has been governor and the people know him best, he still can’t beat Trump. And if DeSantis can’t win in his own backyard, where can he win?” asked top Republican pollster Tony Fabrizio, who conducted the survey for a private political client. Fabrizio also surveys for the pro-Trump super PAC, but other pollsters say his Florida numbers jibe with the trend lines of the race.

The poll of 500 Florida Republicans, which shows the other presidential candidates polling in single digits, comes on the heels of the Republican Party of Florida executive committee’s decision last month to nix a party loyalty oath at Trump’s behest. DeSantis allies tried to keep the oath in place, but Trump’s support is so deep in the grassroots that the governor was steamrolled.

Trump’s 57-22% lead over DeSantis in the Fabrizio poll is one of his biggest yet in Florida, and it shows a structural problem for DeSantis in the GOP, where 90% hold a favorable view of him and 76% say they have a “very favorable” opinion of the governor.

But among the latter group, DeSantis is losing to Trump 61-27%. That result, reflected in other surveys, undercuts the governor’s core campaign argument that his high favorable ratings will lead Republicans to support him over Trump.

“A majority of the people in Florida who like Ron DeSantis the best still want Donald Trump to be president, not DeSantis,” said Fabrizio. “Where does DeSantis go for votes?”

DeSantis’s answer: Iowa, the first state to vote in the GOP primary, where he has spent the most time and resources and is moving campaign staff.

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fthemessenger.com%2Fpolitics%2Ftrump-desantis-polls-florida-iowa-new-hampshire
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 09, 2023, 11:44:28 AM
I don't think its about DeSantis.  Its much larger than that.   Most of us are still upset at the corruption of the collusion hoax, the FBI and CIA election interference, the sham shut downs and mail in voting bs due to the covid hoax by Blue state govs etc and don't believe it was a fair election.

The country was better under Trump.  Team Blue cult nuts has literally not a single objective measure to point to right now. 

   

DeSantis Crushed by Trump in Latest Florida, Iowa and New Hampshire Polls: ‘He’s Losing Everywhere’
The new data comes as the Florida governor shifts staff and resources to Iowa
Marc Caputo

In the clash of the two Florida men, former president Donald Trump is beating Ron DeSantis by 35 percentage points, according to a new poll of Republican presidential primary voters that underscores the challenges the governor’s faces in his home state and the early states.

“Where DeSantis has been governor and the people know him best, he still can’t beat Trump. And if DeSantis can’t win in his own backyard, where can he win?” asked top Republican pollster Tony Fabrizio, who conducted the survey for a private political client. Fabrizio also surveys for the pro-Trump super PAC, but other pollsters say his Florida numbers jibe with the trend lines of the race.

The poll of 500 Florida Republicans, which shows the other presidential candidates polling in single digits, comes on the heels of the Republican Party of Florida executive committee’s decision last month to nix a party loyalty oath at Trump’s behest. DeSantis allies tried to keep the oath in place, but Trump’s support is so deep in the grassroots that the governor was steamrolled.

Trump’s 57-22% lead over DeSantis in the Fabrizio poll is one of his biggest yet in Florida, and it shows a structural problem for DeSantis in the GOP, where 90% hold a favorable view of him and 76% say they have a “very favorable” opinion of the governor.

But among the latter group, DeSantis is losing to Trump 61-27%. That result, reflected in other surveys, undercuts the governor’s core campaign argument that his high favorable ratings will lead Republicans to support him over Trump.

“A majority of the people in Florida who like Ron DeSantis the best still want Donald Trump to be president, not DeSantis,” said Fabrizio. “Where does DeSantis go for votes?”

DeSantis’s answer: Iowa, the first state to vote in the GOP primary, where he has spent the most time and resources and is moving campaign staff.

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fthemessenger.com%2Fpolitics%2Ftrump-desantis-polls-florida-iowa-new-hampshire
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 09, 2023, 01:26:51 PM
I don't think its about DeSantis.  Its much larger than that.   Most of us are still upset at the corruption of the collusion hoax, the FBI and CIA election interference, the sham shut downs and mail in voting bs due to the covid hoax by Blue state govs etc and don't believe it was a fair election.

The country was better under Trump.  Team Blue cult nuts has literally not a single objective measure to point to right now. 

 

I think that's definitely part of it.  For me, I was really pulling for DeSantis.  But when they escalated this fascistic witch hunt, I started rooting for Trump.  We cannot let his political opponent succeed in this kind of election interference.   
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 09, 2023, 03:05:45 PM
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Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 09, 2023, 03:06:44 PM
Rob Reiner
@robreiner

Bobby Kennedy Jr.’s announcement to run as an Independent is a dangerous and cynical move by wealthy Republicans to put Trump back in the WH. I talked with Bobby and told him that what he is doing could destroy American Democracy. He didn’t care.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 09, 2023, 06:47:23 PM
RFK Jr.: Today, I Declared Myself an Independent Candidate for President | Opinion
ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR. , INDEPENDENT CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT
ON 10/9/23

Today, I declared myself an independent candidate for President of the United States of America.

And more than that, I joined my voice with all the people who are fed up and all the people who are hopeful, to make a new Declaration of Independence for our entire nation.

Today, I declared my independence from the corporations that have hijacked our government to milk us for profit.

I declared independence from Wall Street, Big Tech, Big Pharma, Big Ag, the military contractors, and their lobbyists who now outnumber members of Congress 20 to 1.

I declared independence from the mercenary media that forever urges us to hate our neighbors and fear our friends.

I declared independence from the cynical elites who betray our hope and amplify our divisions.

And finally, I declared independence from the two political parties and the corrupt interests that dominate them, and the entire rigged system of rancor and rage, corruption and lies, that has turned government officials into indentured servants of their corporate bosses. If left unchecked, they will commoditize our air, water, food, labor, and children, and turn the American Dream into desperation and dust.

I declared my independence from these corrupting powers because they are incompatible with the inalienable rights that our original Declaration of Independence invoked in 1776: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

How can we guard life when for-profit corporations have captured the public agencies that are supposed to protect us? How can we enjoy liberty when a surveillance state seeks to hide the truth and quash dissent to preserve its power? And how can we pursue happiness when our nation's families are imprisoned by debt and hunger and jobs that will never pay the bills?

And so today, I declared my independence from the tyranny of corruption which robs us of affordable lives, belief in our future, and respect for one another. And to do that, I had to declare my independence from the Democratic Party and independence from all parties.

I haven't made this decision lightly. It is painful for me to let go of the party of my uncles, my father, of my grandfather and of both of my great-grandfathers—John "Honey Fitz" Fitzgerald, Boston's first Irish Catholic mayor, and Patrick Kennedy, a Boston ward boss, who together, launched my family's political dynasty.

But my sacrifice is nothing compared to the risk our founding fathers took when they signed the Declaration of Independence 247 years ago right over there. They knew that if their revolution failed, every last one of them would be hanged. They chose to place everything on the line.

When John Adams put his pen down after adding his signature to the Declaration, he turned to those present and said, "Sink or swim, live or die, survive or perish, from this day on, I'm with my country." I make that same pledge today, so that I may stand before you as every leader should, free of partisan allegiance and backroom wheeling and dealing, a servant only to my conscience, to my Creator, and to you.

Today, we are turning a new page in American politics. There have been independent candidates before. But this time is different. This time, the Independent is going to win.

The two major parties are fielding candidates that most Americans do not want even to run. A shocking three-fourths of Americans believe President Biden is too old to govern effectively. President Trump faces multiple civil and criminal trials. Both have favorability ratings deep in negative territory.

That is what two-party politics has come to, and that is why we need to break the stranglehold of the two parties. And that's why we need to pry loose the hammerlock of corrupt power over Washington D.C. We are going to make this nation ours again.

https://www.newsweek.com/today-i-declared-myself-independent-candidate-president-opinion-1833099
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 09, 2023, 09:09:01 PM
Rob Reiner
@robreiner

Bobby Kennedy Jr.’s announcement to run as an Independent is a dangerous and cynical move by wealthy Republicans to put Trump back in the WH. I talked with Bobby and told him that what he is doing could destroy American Democracy. He didn’t care.


Meathead has plenty of Hollywood skeletons in the closet. A dumb man in later life.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 10, 2023, 12:57:02 AM

Meathead has plenty of Hollywood skeletons in the closet. A dumb man in later life.
He's been dumb his whole life.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 10, 2023, 11:19:25 AM
Tracking the 2024 Republican Primary
Trump posts record-high primary support
Updated on Oct 10, 2023
Updates weekly
https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/2024-gop-primary-election-tracker
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 12, 2023, 10:52:11 AM
Trump Trounces Biden In Crucial Battleground State: POLL
GAGE SKIDMORE
by: Mary Lou Masters 10.11.2023 Source: DC Enquirer

Former President Donald Trump is leading President Joe Biden in the key battleground state of Michigan by 7 points, according to a poll reported by The Detroit News on Wednesday.

In the state that Trump won in 2016 but lost to Biden in 2020, he beat the president 42% to 35%, with 20% saying they’d vote for someone else and 3% opting not to pick a candidate, according to a Marketing Resource Group (MRG) survey. When the Democratic candidate was changed to Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, she beat Trump 46% to 40% — a 13-point swing from the matchup with Biden.

“It tells me that Biden has a problem, not necessarily the Democrats,” Jenell Leonard, GOP consultant and owner of MRG, told The Detroit News of the numbers. “If the base doesn’t show up, they could likely see themselves in the same situation as they saw in 2016.”

Several recent polls have suggested that Biden would win by several points in Michigan, according to FiveThirtyEight’s survey compilation. An early August Emerson College survey indicated that in a head-to-head matchup, Trump and Biden were tied at 44%, but in a three-way race with independent candidate Cornel West, the former president won by 2 points.

Trump became the first Republican presidential candidate in decades to win Michigan in 2016, where he narrowly beat Hillary Clinton 47.6% to 47.3%, according to Politico. In 2020, the state swung back to the Democrats, with Biden winning by nearly 3 points.

The MRG survey polled 600 likely Michigan voters from Oct. 2 to Oct. 8 with a margin of error of plus or minus 4%.

Neither Trump nor Biden immediately responded to the Daily Caller News Foundation’s requests for comment.

Republished with permission from The Daily Caller News Foundation.

https://dcenquirer.com/trump-trounces-biden-in-crucial-battleground-state-poll
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 12, 2023, 10:56:46 AM
Not surprising.  People usually vote the top of the ticket.  We always make a big deal about the VP pick, but that pick rarely matters on election day.

DATA: Americans Don’t Seem to Mind Who Trump Picks as VP.
JAKE WELCH
NEWS
POLITICS

A strong majority of former President Donald Trump‘s grassroots supporters – 57 percent – are not concerned about his choice for his running mate in the 2024 presidential election, according to a recent Rasmussen Reports survey. Rasmussen pollsters offered those surveyed a number of options for Trump’s potential Vice President, including whether they would be more inclined to vote for the 45th President if he chose a female, black, or non-political running mate. No option received more than 15 percent support. Only 13 percent answered they were more likely to vote for Trump if he selected a female candidate. Eight percent said choosing a black person would make them more likely to support Trump next year. And a further 15 percent argued they were more likely to vote for him if he chose a “non-politician as his vice presidential running mate.” The remaining seven percent answered “not sure.” The former President himself has toyed with the idea of a female vice president in his next administration, telling an interviewer in September, “I like the concept, but we’re going to pick the best person.”

https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/10/11/data-americans-dont-seem-to-mind-who-trump-picks-as-vp/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 12, 2023, 02:25:01 PM
Biden edges out Trump in Fox News poll, loses to DeSantis or Haley
BY ALEX GANGITANO - 10/12/23
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4251779-biden-trump-desantis-haley-2024-poll-fox/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on October 12, 2023, 03:16:54 PM
Certain parts of the country are strongly left or right.

State with lots of union and government employees are usually heavily Democrat.

Prime was a government employee and union rep and benefitted from Democrat policies which favor unions.

People vote with their wallet.

It is to be expected he would be a staunch Democrat.

Democrat - yes; staunch democrat - no.

I have been a political activist for many decades on behalf of classified school employees and education funding.  I also for the past 10 years and currently chair a corporation whose responsibilities include protecting PERS retirement benefits and advocates for folks having concerns and issues with PERS. Our organization contributes heavily to Oregon's legislative candidates’ campaigns, both republicans and democrats.


Unlike some folks on Getbig, I am not all talk. I am also actively politically involved.


 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on October 12, 2023, 03:25:40 PM
Democrat - yes; staunch democrat - no.

I have been a political activist for many decades on behalf of classified school employees and education funding.  I also for the past 10 years and currently chair a corporation whose responsibilities include protecting PERS retirement benefits and advocates for folks having concerns and issues with PERS. Our organization contributes heavily to Oregon's legislative candidates’ campaigns, both republicans and democrats.


Unlike some folks on Getbig, I am not all talk. I am also actively politically involved.


 
What a legacy.  ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: TheGrinch on October 14, 2023, 12:22:47 PM
hope all of you realize there actually WONT be a 2024 election
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on October 14, 2023, 03:41:27 PM
hope all of you realize there actually WONT be a 2024 election
You're not the first person to say that. What do you think is going to happen that will prevent an election in 2024?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 16, 2023, 11:12:56 AM
Biden Reelection Campaign Banks $71 Million In Third Quarter
The president has twice as much cash on hand as Donald Trump, his major GOP challenger.
By Kevin Robillard
Oct 15, 2023
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-reelection-campaign-71-million-third-quarter_n_652bf2f0e4b0da897ab445e2
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on October 16, 2023, 02:17:50 PM
Biden Reelection Campaign Banks $71 Million In Third Quarter
The president has twice as much cash on hand as Donald Trump, his major GOP challenger.
By Kevin Robillard
Oct 15, 2023
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-reelection-campaign-71-million-third-quarter_n_652bf2f0e4b0da897ab445e2

Thanks for posting this excellent news.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on October 16, 2023, 02:52:22 PM
Biden may have a few more dollars but Trump will have the votes. Get ready for it Libs, TDS will be raging.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 17, 2023, 11:01:00 AM
Trump is Surging
If the election were held today, Trump would likely defeat Biden - and Democrats know it
By Matthew Boose
October 16, 2023
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Famgreatness.com%2F2023%2F10%2F16%2Ftrump-is-surging%2F
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 17, 2023, 11:19:39 AM
Trump is Surging
If the election were held today, Trump would likely defeat Biden - and Democrats know it
By Matthew Boose
October 16, 2023
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Famgreatness.com%2F2023%2F10%2F16%2Ftrump-is-surging%2F

By every measure the country as a whole is in a disastrous shape under this dirtbags Admn   
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on October 17, 2023, 12:12:18 PM
Obviously a small sample of only 3 folks, but I recently saw a video of folks in the tech sector discussing Trump.

The gist was, when he was in office, they graded him an F, and admitted they were consumed by hate.

After he left, they felt he was C, now, when they look at his policy without emotion, he's a B+, and they went to list moves Trump made that pissed people off, but were the right ones in retrospect.

As I said, small sample, but could be indicative of a mindset shift as well.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on October 17, 2023, 12:35:16 PM
By every measure the country as a whole is in a disastrous shape under this dirtbags Admn
Disgusting trash the current Admin.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2023, 09:32:38 AM
http://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/18/biden-would-lose-in-match-up-vs-trump-according-to-cnbc-survey-israel-funding-has-strong-support.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 18, 2023, 11:07:56 AM
BREAKING: Top GOP donors now REFUSE to give money to Trump contenders, seeing primary chances fade and Trump victory inevitable
"It’s becoming clear the cavalry’s not coming."
Libby Emmons
Brooklyn NY
Oct 18, 2023
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-top-gop-donors-now-refuse-to-give-money-to-trump-contenders-seeing-primary-chances-fade-and-trump-victory-inevitable?utm_campaign=64487
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 19, 2023, 12:09:26 AM
BREAKING: Top GOP donors now REFUSE to give money to Trump contenders, seeing primary chances fade and Trump victory inevitable
"It’s becoming clear the cavalry’s not coming."
Libby Emmons
Brooklyn NY
Oct 18, 2023
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-top-gop-donors-now-refuse-to-give-money-to-trump-contenders-seeing-primary-chances-fade-and-trump-victory-inevitable?utm_campaign=64487
They were wasting money from the start.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 20, 2023, 12:08:24 PM
Obviously a small sample of only 3 folks, but I recently saw a video of folks in the tech sector discussing Trump.

The gist was, when he was in office, they graded him an F, and admitted they were consumed by hate.

After he left, they felt he was C, now, when they look at his policy without emotion, he's a B+, and they went to list moves Trump made that pissed people off, but were the right ones in retrospect.

As I said, small sample, but could be indicative of a mindset shift as well.


Just wait 6 months when they are all laid off and check the grade.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 23, 2023, 11:09:57 AM
Former baseball MVP Steve Garvey joins California US Senate race, gives GOP ballot dash of celebrity
BY MICHAEL R. BLOOD
Updated October 10, 2023
https://apnews.com/article/california-senate-steve-garvey-baseball-ce5fb39988916e7eb91ec0c5a31c9c1b
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Contreras9977 on October 23, 2023, 11:48:34 AM
"If trump is elected, the Republican Party will get killed, we’ll get creamed, we’ll lose, we’ll deserve it." Lindsey Graham-2016. How right he was.

trump saw chronically low approval ratings, lost the popular vote TWICE, lost both houses in 2020 and lost the re-election for the first time in 3 decades. And the moron thinks he has a chance in 2024?  ;D :D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 23, 2023, 11:20:00 PM
Trump Widens Lead Over Biden, Wins In Third-Party Matchups: POLL
GAGE SKIDMORE
by: Mary Lou Masters 10.23.2023
https://dcenquirer.com/trump-widens-lead-over-biden-wins-in-third-party-matchups-poll
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 24, 2023, 11:35:00 AM
Poll: Joe Biden Underwater on Top 3 Voter Issues of Inflation, Immigration, Jobs
WENDELL HUSEBØ   24 Oct 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/24/poll-joe-biden-underwater-on-top-3-voter-issues-of-inflation-immigration-jobs/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 24, 2023, 04:09:51 PM
Panic.

Never Trump Leader Bill Kristol on Trump’s 2024 Enthusiasm Edge over Biden: ‘I Am Alarmed’
KRISTINA WONG   24 Oct 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2023/10/24/never-trump-leader-bill-kristol-on-trumps-2024-enthusiasm-edge-over-biden-i-am-alarmed/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 24, 2023, 04:19:37 PM
Panic.

Never Trump Leader Bill Kristol on Trump’s 2024 Enthusiasm Edge over Biden: ‘I Am Alarmed’
KRISTINA WONG   24 Oct 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2023/10/24/never-trump-leader-bill-kristol-on-trumps-2024-enthusiasm-edge-over-biden-i-am-alarmed/

Another shill who wants to get us into WW3.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 25, 2023, 11:32:52 AM
Warning signs flash for Biden in recent polling
BY JARED GANS - 10/25/23
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4271095-joe-biden-polls-2024-donald-trump/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 25, 2023, 01:22:53 PM
Interesting discussion.  The decades-long identity politics pandering could finally be blowing up in their faces. 

Biden’s Open Border May Hand Black and Latino Voters to Trump
Published 10/25/23
Kristin Tate
https://themessenger.com/opinion/open-border-black-voters-latinos-migrants-biden-trump-2024-election
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 26, 2023, 10:25:29 AM
BREAKING: Blake Masters Announces Run For Congress In Arizona
by: Sterling Mosley 10.26.2023
https://dcenquirer.com/breaking-blake-masters-announces-run-for-congress
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 26, 2023, 10:28:42 AM
American Oligarchy: Meet the Billionaire Mega-Donors Behind the Biden Presidency
ALEXANDER MARLOW   26 Oct 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/26/american-oligarchy-meet-the-billionaire-mega-donors-behind-the-biden-presidency/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 26, 2023, 10:30:05 AM
Poll: Donald Trump Crushes Joe Biden in Key Battleground States
HANNAH BLEAU   26 Oct 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2023/10/26/poll-donald-trump-crushes-joe-biden-in-key-battleground-states/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 26, 2023, 10:31:22 AM
James Carville calls Democrats 'ludicrous' who don't want to discuss Biden's viability
Democratic Rep Dean Phillips is expected to announce a primary challenge on Friday
By Hanna Panreck Fox News
Published October 26, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/media/james-carville-calls-democrats-ludicrous-discuss-bidens-viability
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 27, 2023, 01:36:07 PM
Bidens approval rating drops 11 points among Dems: Gallup
Only 35 percent of independents approve of Biden’s job performance.
The Post Millennial
Oct 27, 2023
https://thepostmillennial.com/bidens-approval-rating-drops-11-points-among-dems-gallup?utm_campaign=64487
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on October 27, 2023, 02:43:17 PM
Bidens approval rating drops 11 points among Dems: Gallup
Only 35 percent of independents approve of Biden’s job performance.
The Post Millennial
Oct 27, 2023
https://thepostmillennial.com/bidens-approval-rating-drops-11-points-among-dems-gallup?utm_campaign=64487
;D Mr. Trump will make things right.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 27, 2023, 04:01:08 PM
Listened to a few minutes of the two dudes that filled Rush's radio spot today. They are already saying the GOP needs all three branches to do this and that.

Really tired of the weak representation of conservatives in general. A culture of losing and appeasement from the selected opposition to all the leftist destruction of the country.

We need a depression so people get their heads out of their asses, and it looks like we will be getting one.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 30, 2023, 08:53:07 PM
https://gettr.com/post/p2tnd07952b

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 31, 2023, 10:45:35 AM
Poll: Ron DeSantis falls to 8% nationally, tied with Nikki Haley in second place
A.G. Gancarski
October 26, 2023
https://floridapolitics.com/archives/641528-poll-ron-desantis-falls-to-8-nationally-tied-with-nikki-haley-in-second-place/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on October 31, 2023, 10:48:07 AM
Mike Pence and Larry Elder drop out.  Rep Dean Phillips announces.  And no one cares.

Biden Primary Challenger Unleashes Bizarre Claim On Why He's Running For President
"Meet the Press Now" host Kristen Welker pushed back on Rep. Dean Phillips for the odd framing of his 2024 bid.
Ben Blanchet
Updated Oct 28, 2023
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dean-phillips-joe-biden-kristen-welker_n_653c821fe4b032ae1c9b0ca9
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on October 31, 2023, 05:24:35 PM
Mike Pence and Larry Elder drop out.  Rep Dean Phillips announces.  And no one cares.

Biden Primary Challenger Unleashes Bizarre Claim On Why He's Running For President
"Meet the Press Now" host Kristen Welker pushed back on Rep. Dean Phillips for the odd framing of his 2024 bid.
Ben Blanchet
Updated Oct 28, 2023
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dean-phillips-joe-biden-kristen-welker_n_653c821fe4b032ae1c9b0ca9
Mike Pence has the personality of a wet tampon.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on November 01, 2023, 01:00:10 PM
Mike Pence and Larry Elder drop out.  Rep Dean Phillips announces.  And no one cares.

Biden Primary Challenger Unleashes Bizarre Claim On Why He's Running For President
"Meet the Press Now" host Kristen Welker pushed back on Rep. Dean Phillips for the odd framing of his 2024 bid.
Ben Blanchet
Updated Oct 28, 2023
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dean-phillips-joe-biden-kristen-welker_n_653c821fe4b032ae1c9b0ca9

Pence didn't really do much in the debates, just like during his Vice Presidency. I wonder if this is related to Trump's court cases and those ridiculous gag orders since Pence is no longer be a political opponent of Trump but he might be a witness in court. If Trump says anything about Pence the judges might now have the excuse they want to fine Trump again or even jail him for "attacking" a witness.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 01, 2023, 05:51:14 PM
Pence didn't really do much in the debates, just like during his Vice Presidency. I wonder if this is related to Trump's court cases and those ridiculous gag orders since Pence is no longer be a political opponent of Trump but he might be a witness in court. If Trump says anything about Pence the judges might now have the excuse they want to fine Trump again or even jail him for "attacking" a witness.

Pence never had a chance.  Terrible decision on his part to run against Trump. 

Good point about the attempt to use Pence to try and silence Trump.  If they do succeed in jailing Trump for exercising his First Amendment rights, it will only make him stronger IMO.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 01, 2023, 09:01:30 PM
Trump is going to "win". He could be in jail getting waterboarded. Doesn't matter.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 01, 2023, 11:27:42 PM
Pence never had a chance.  Terrible decision on his part to run against Trump. 

Good point about the attempt to use Pence to try and silence Trump.  If they do succeed in jailing Trump for exercising his First Amendment rights, it will only make him stronger IMO.

But if Trump is jailed, by all accounts, it won't be for exercising his 1st amendment rights. Anyone above the 9th grade understands this.   
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 02, 2023, 01:07:07 AM
But if Trump is jailed, by all accounts, it won't be for exercising his 1st amendment rights. Anyone above the 9th grade understands this.

If Trump is jailed for violating a gag order, it will absolutely be because he exercised his First Amendment rights.  Anyone who isn’t an ignorant liberal hack with TDS understands this. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on November 02, 2023, 03:15:10 PM
If Trump is jailed for violating a gag order, it will absolutely be because he exercised his First Amendment rights.  Anyone who isn’t an ignorant liberal hack with TDS understands this.

If Trump is jailed for continuing to violate a gag order because he has no self-control, he will only have himself to blame... and only diehard MAGA folks will have sympathy for this petulant man-child who melts down multiple times each day on Truth Social because most other media has ceased acknowledging his rants and giving him a platform from which to whine.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on November 02, 2023, 03:17:51 PM
If Trump is jailed for continuing to violate a gag order because he has no self-control, he will only have himself to blame... and only diehard MAGA folks will have sympathy for this petulant man-child who melts down multiple times each day on Truth Social because most other media has ceased acknowledging his rants and giving him a platform from which to whine.
Trump “jailed” the stupidity is shocking!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on November 02, 2023, 03:28:47 PM
Trump “jailed” the stupidity is shocking!

Honestly, I do not see him being 'jailed' in the usual manner. At least not because he violated a gag order. There are other ways to keep him from ranting on social media platforms. House arrest with no internet and no other means of public communication comes to mind.   
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on November 02, 2023, 04:00:25 PM
Poll: Ron DeSantis falls to 8% nationally, tied with Nikki Haley in second place
A.G. Gancarski
October 26, 2023
https://floridapolitics.com/archives/641528-poll-ron-desantis-falls-to-8-nationally-tied-with-nikki-haley-in-second-place/
Ron is done which is fine, happy with his Governance of Florida.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on November 02, 2023, 04:22:35 PM
Ron is done which is fine, happy with his Governance of Florida.
I'm surprised he didn't do better.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on November 02, 2023, 06:12:55 PM
I'm surprised he didn't do better.
Seemed to get off to a good start then lost momentum.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 03, 2023, 12:42:44 AM
I'm surprised he didn't do better.
He really got exposed.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 03, 2023, 02:30:15 PM
If Trump is jailed for continuing to violate a gag order because he has no self-control, he will only have himself to blame... and only diehard MAGA folks will have sympathy for this petulant man-child who melts down multiple times each day on Truth Social because most other media has ceased acknowledging his rants and giving him a platform from which to whine.

Only people who care about the Constitution, including the First Amendment, and don't suffer from TDS, are opposed to these gag orders.  This is some straight up Third World crap.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 03, 2023, 03:05:09 PM
Seemed to get off to a good start then lost momentum.

Actually if you recall, his announcement was a disaster, so he stumbled out of the gate and never really recovered.

I wanted him to run and would absolutely vote for him over Biden, but the only shot he has is if Trump drops out.  He's actually polling behind Haley. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on November 03, 2023, 03:32:32 PM
Only people who care about the Constitution, including the First Amendment, and don't suffer from TDS, are opposed to these gag orders.  This is some straight up Third World crap.

You are not a judge and yet you sit in judgment of so many things and people.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 03, 2023, 04:12:18 PM
You are not a judge and yet you sit in judgment of so many things and people.

How is this for judgment?  You have a complete lack of self awareness. 

If Trump is jailed for continuing to violate a gag order because he has no self-control, he will only have himself to blame... and only diehard MAGA folks will have sympathy for this petulant man-child who melts down multiple times each day on Truth Social because most other media has ceased acknowledging his rants and giving him a platform from which to whine.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 06, 2023, 09:13:29 AM
ELECTABILITY: Trump Now Leads Biden In Five of Six Swing States.
JAKE WELCH
https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/11/05/electability-trump-now-leads-biden-in-five-of-six-swing-states/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 06, 2023, 09:47:54 AM
Biden's Approval Ratings Lowest for an Incumbent Seeking Reelection Since Jimmy Carter
By Bob Hoge | November 05, 2023
https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2023/11/05/bidens-approval-ratings-lowest-for-an-incumbent-seeking-reelection-since-jimmy-carter-n2165928
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on November 06, 2023, 12:35:13 PM
How is this for judgment?  You have a complete lack of self awareness.

Not good. Your judgment is off... way off. If anything, I have too much self-awareness with the possible exception of the ability to know how others perceive me.   

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 06, 2023, 01:18:52 PM
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 06, 2023, 01:19:39 PM
Not good. Your judgment is off... way off. If anything, I have too much self-awareness with the possible exception of the ability to know how others perceive me.

Says the queen getting nudes from GB people and posing in your underwear in the gym.   Uh Huh. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on November 06, 2023, 02:11:41 PM
Says the queen getting nudes from GB people and posing in your underwear in the gym.   Uh Huh.

You are far too uptight and have some obvious serious sexual identity issues. Seek help. 

I am well (self) aware that there is nothing untoward about posting a photo of myself in my underwear in the gym locker room accept in the mind of a deranged, uptight fellow with homophobic tendencies.

Yeah, I know because you have said posted this repeatedly, you like women with big boobs and fat butts. Big deal!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on November 06, 2023, 02:26:24 PM

You are far too uptight and have some obvious serious sexual identity issues. Seek help. 

I am well (self) aware that there is nothing untoward about posting a photo of myself in my underwear in the gym locker room accept in the mind of a deranged, uptight fellow with homophobic tendencies.

Yeah, I know because you have said posted this repeatedly, you like women with big boobs and fat butts. Big deal!
Problem is NO one wants to see that shit!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on November 06, 2023, 03:01:26 PM
Donald is the only Republican to get over 75million votes
& the only incumbent President to in American history to
Get significantly more votes 2nd time round & Yet Not
Win the Oval.

I have a Functioning brain, so I well know for sure that a
Dementia patient who didn't campaign & couldn’t fill a
McDonald's parking lot, & can't string a single sentence
Together sure as hell didn't break every single voting
Record in America politics in all of America's history.

WTF - Kind of La La land do the corrupt Democrats
Live in.

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 06, 2023, 03:06:15 PM
I’m voting for trump.   100%.   
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on November 06, 2023, 03:08:47 PM
I’m voting for trump.   100%.
x2
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 06, 2023, 03:30:46 PM
Panic!

Good Morning America

@GMA
"This is a wake-up call. This is frightening for not just the Biden White House, not just for Democrats, but for anybody who fears what a return to a Trump presidency would mean. He can win. " —
@jonkarl
 on polls showing former Pres. Trump gaining support in battleground states.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 06, 2023, 03:34:06 PM
This is a message from Obama through his surrogate to Biden.  They are going to dump him.

Former Obama adviser Axelrod says Biden should consider dropping out of 2024
Sudiksha Kochi
USA TODAY
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2023/11/06/obama-david-axelrod-biden-2024/71471821007/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 06, 2023, 03:54:03 PM
This is a message from Obama through his surrogate to Biden.  They are going to dump him.

Former Obama adviser Axelrod says Biden should consider dropping out of 2024
Sudiksha Kochi
USA TODAY
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2023/11/06/obama-david-axelrod-biden-2024/71471821007/


F these liberal creeps.   
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 06, 2023, 08:40:28 PM
Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds Formally Endorses Ron DeSantis: He ‘Puts This Country First and Not Himself’
HANNAH BLEAU KNUDSEN   6 Nov 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2023/11/06/iowa-gov-kim-reynolds-formally-endorses-ron-desantis-he-puts-this-country-first-and-not-himself/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 07, 2023, 11:19:03 AM
Worst presidency of anyone lifetime 

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 07, 2023, 11:08:57 PM
Brutal.

Trump holds 39-point lead over DeSantis in Florida poll
BY NICK ROBERTSON - 11/07/23
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4297091-trump-39-point-lead-over-desantis-florida-poll/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 08, 2023, 10:05:31 AM
Not a good sign for conservatives. Ohio passed both a pro-abortion issue with trans funding sprinkled in as well as legalizing marijuana with the taxes from that earmarked for social justice, etc... Country is headed for the shitter. The left plays white women's emotions like a fiddle.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 08, 2023, 01:49:49 PM
Not a good sign for conservatives. Ohio passed both a pro-abortion issue with trans funding sprinkled in as well as legalizing marijuana with the taxes from that earmarked for social justice, etc... Country is headed for the shitter. The left plays white women's emotions like a fiddle.

GOP needs to drop abortion as an issue and just let the liberals kill off all their kids 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on November 08, 2023, 03:12:16 PM
I’m voting for trump.   100%.

-Goes without saying.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on November 08, 2023, 03:52:22 PM
How is this for judgment?  You have a complete lack of self awareness.
As most liberals fit this box.

*not my opinion
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 08, 2023, 10:33:56 PM
Not good. Your judgment is off... way off. If anything, I have too much self-awareness with the possible exception of the ability to know how others perceive me.

My judgment is spot on.  You said this:  "only diehard MAGA folks will have sympathy for this petulant man-child," which is obviously passing judgment.  You ten called me judgmental in the next breath.  That's a lack of self awareness. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 08, 2023, 10:34:13 PM
As most liberals fit this box.

*not my opinion

Truth.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 08, 2023, 10:37:01 PM
Not a good sign for conservatives. Ohio passed both a pro-abortion issue with trans funding sprinkled in as well as legalizing marijuana with the taxes from that earmarked for social justice, etc... Country is headed for the shitter. The left plays white women's emotions like a fiddle.

Definitely a bad day for the GOP on Tuesday.  Ronna McDaniel needs to go.  They also need better candidates.  And to grow a spine. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 08, 2023, 10:37:54 PM
GOP underperforms again as Democrats use abortion, turnout to win marquee 2023 elections
Social media lights up with calls to oust Ronna McDaniel as RNC chairwoman as GOP losing streaks pile up since 2018
By John Solomon
Updated: November 8, 2023
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/gop-underperforms-again-democrats-use-abortion-turnout-win-marquee-2023#google_vignette?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2023, 08:54:11 AM
How RFK Jr. could change the outcome of the 2024 election
Analysis by Harry Enten, CNN
 4 minute read
Updated November 11, 2023
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/11/politics/robert-kennedy-rfk-2024-election-outcome
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2023, 08:56:03 AM
Tim Scott suspends 2024 GOP primary bid
BY CAROLINE VAKIL - 11/12/23
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4290754-tim-scott-suspends-2024-gop-primary/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 13, 2023, 11:37:16 AM
How RFK Jr. could change the outcome of the 2024 election
Analysis by Harry Enten, CNN
 4 minute read
Updated November 11, 2023
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/11/politics/robert-kennedy-rfk-2024-election-outcome


I don't watch TV or MSM, but the guy has all but disappeared since declaring independent. At least in sources that I use for news.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 14, 2023, 01:12:51 AM
GOP underperforms again as Democrats use abortion, turnout to win marquee 2023 elections
Social media lights up with calls to oust Ronna McDaniel as RNC chairwoman as GOP losing streaks pile up since 2018
By John Solomon
Updated: November 8, 2023
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/gop-underperforms-again-democrats-use-abortion-turnout-win-marquee-2023#google_vignette?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
Republicans are hanging themselves with abortion.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 15, 2023, 06:26:45 AM
Just another deep state loser.


Nikki Haley, a defense industry lobbyist disguised as an aging MILF, floated what many are calling a flatly unconstitutional idea to force all social media users verify their identities online in order to rid the world of 'bots' from Russia, China, Iran and North Korea (and of course, hand the US government a nice list of exactly who's saying what, and where).

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nikki-haley-takes-fire-over-unconstitutional-plan-force-all-social-media-users-be
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 16, 2023, 12:35:58 AM
Just another deep state loser.


Nikki Haley, a defense industry lobbyist disguised as an aging MILF, floated what many are calling a flatly unconstitutional idea to force all social media users verify their identities online in order to rid the world of 'bots' from Russia, China, Iran and North Korea (and of course, hand the US government a nice list of exactly who's saying what, and where).

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nikki-haley-takes-fire-over-unconstitutional-plan-force-all-social-media-users-be
Yeah, she should join the democrats. She'd fit right in.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 16, 2023, 01:26:50 PM
Republicans are hanging themselves with abortion.

It’s definitely getting liberals/progressive to the polls, but I’m not sure what they can do about it.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on November 16, 2023, 02:11:17 PM
Yeah, she should join the democrats. She'd fit right in.

She is almost totally anti-abortion... not sure how well this fits right in with many Democrats.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 16, 2023, 02:42:47 PM
Just another deep state loser.


Nikki Haley, a defense industry lobbyist disguised as an aging MILF, floated what many are calling a flatly unconstitutional idea to force all social media users verify their identities online in order to rid the world of 'bots' from Russia, China, Iran and North Korea (and of course, hand the US government a nice list of exactly who's saying what, and where).

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nikki-haley-takes-fire-over-unconstitutional-plan-force-all-social-media-users-be

Oh heck no.  Incredibly dumb/bad idea. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 17, 2023, 09:39:19 AM
Yep.

The implications are simple. Voters are confronting a rare moment in U.S. history in which they can actually compare what it’s like to live under the leadership, or lack thereof, of the two major presidential candidates. Do they want Bidenomics or the affordable grocery and gas prices of the Trump era? Do they want war in the Middle East — or Eastern Europe or the South China Sea — or peace? Do they want an open border or national security? The Trump-Biden decision is an increasingly easy calculation for voters to make.

Why Joe Biden’s Poll Numbers Are Even Worse For Democrats Than They Think
BY: KYLEE GRISWOLD
NOVEMBER 16, 2023
https://thefederalist.com/2023/11/16/why-joe-bidens-poll-numbers-are-even-worse-for-democrats-than-they-think/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 17, 2023, 09:43:27 AM
Haley Is on the Brink of Croaking DeSantis
Ed Kilgore
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/11/haley-on-brink-of-croaking-desantis.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 17, 2023, 09:44:55 AM
House Speaker Mike Johnson endorses Trump, defends ‘stolen election’ claims
PUBLISHED  NOV 14 2023
Kevin Breuninger
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/14/speaker-mike-johnson-endorses-trump-defends-false-election-claims.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 17, 2023, 09:51:23 AM
New forecast projects Trump to defeat Biden in a head to head Presidential rematch in largest
study yet

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000018b-c6e8-d7df-abbb-efebf1c00000&nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=0000016e-2d1d-daaf-afef-6ddd5af40000&nlid=630318
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 17, 2023, 11:09:39 AM
Haley Is on the Brink of Croaking DeSantis
Ed Kilgore
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/11/haley-on-brink-of-croaking-desantis.html


Ron is not a spicy meatball.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 17, 2023, 11:47:56 PM
Haley rises but Trump remains dominant in early GOP presidential primary state: poll
New Hampshire pollster highlights that new survey in first primary state shows 'Haley seems to be consolidating her position as the alternative to Trump'
By Paul Steinhauser Fox News
Published November 17, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/haley-rises-but-trump-remains-dominant-early-gop-presidential-primary-poll
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 18, 2023, 07:13:52 AM
Haley rises but Trump remains dominant in early GOP presidential primary state: poll
New Hampshire pollster highlights that new survey in first primary state shows 'Haley seems to be consolidating her position as the alternative to Trump'
By Paul Steinhauser Fox News
Published November 17, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/haley-rises-but-trump-remains-dominant-early-gop-presidential-primary-poll


GOP already trying to saddle Trump with another Pence-like deep state VP handler in Haley. I don't see normal people believing anything she says at this point. Like watching a slow motion train wreck.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on November 18, 2023, 07:34:43 AM
This
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 20, 2023, 09:36:27 AM
This

Sad but true.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 20, 2023, 09:36:58 AM
Biden's support from Gen Z erodes as age becomes critical issue: 'He's out of touch with basically everybody'
'Meet the Press' anchor calls out 'significant' moment as NBC poll finds Trump ahead for first time
By Taylor Penley Fox News
Published November 20, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/media/bidens-support-gen-z-erodes-age-becomes-critical-issue-touch-basically-everybody
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 20, 2023, 09:39:14 AM
White House Report Card: Bad polls closer to pushing Biden out of the race
by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist
November 18, 2023
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/white-house-report-card-bad-polls-closer-to-pushing-biden-out-of-the-race
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 20, 2023, 09:40:18 AM
Poll: Biden’s standing hits new lows amid Israel-Hamas war
Young voters are breaking from Biden, helping give Trump a narrow lead for the first time in NBC News polling, though the gap is within the margin of error.
Nov. 19, 2023
By Mark Murray
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/poll-bidens-standing-hits-new-lows-israel-hamas-war-rcna125251
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 21, 2023, 02:33:16 PM
DeSantis expected to land the endorsement of influential Iowa evangelical leader in race for GOP nomination
Ron DeSantis says endorsements from Iowa evangelical leader Bob Vander Plaats and Gov. Kim Reynolds amount to ‘a pretty powerful machine’
By Paul Steinhauser Fox News
Published November 21, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-endorsement-influential-iowa-evangelical-leader-race-gop-nomination
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 23, 2023, 10:36:16 AM
Trump campaign touts evangelical support in Iowa as faith leaders endorse him
"As a pastor in Iowa, I believe President Trump has demonstrated a profound understanding of the issues that are crucial to us," Crossroads Church Senior Pastor Joseph Hall said.
By Ben Whedon
Published: November 21, 2023
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/trump-campaign-touts-evangelical-support-iowa-faith-leaders-endorse-him#google_vignette?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 23, 2023, 10:37:49 AM
Despite the fact this is pretty remarkable, I keep wondering what the polls would look like without the Biden election interference.

Trump lead widens to 47%-43%
by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist
November 22, 2023
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/trump-lead-widens-to-47-43
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 23, 2023, 08:12:52 PM
Trump holds 7-point lead over Biden in new poll
By Michael Gryboski, Mainline Church Editor
CP POLITICS | THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 23, 2023
https://www.christianpost.com/news/trump-holds-7-point-lead-over-biden-in-new-poll.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 23, 2023, 08:30:06 PM
Imagine finding 43% that would vote for Biden. If given a choice to vote for another dem candidate that is single digits.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on November 23, 2023, 09:40:47 PM
Imagine finding 43% that would vote for Biden. If given a choice to vote for another dem candidate that is single digits.

Hmmm the same 43% who couldn't fill a McDonald's car park if Pedo Joe had a
Meeting there.

I give the Libturds they did a grand job of cheating & corrupting an election
Fucking scumbag khvnts
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Option D on November 24, 2023, 12:16:33 PM
Damn. Same ol shit I see.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on November 24, 2023, 12:58:59 PM
Damn. Same ol shit I see.

Yes, the candidates are.

Hope all is well Mal.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 25, 2023, 09:35:37 AM
Black voters reveal to the NY Times reasons they’re hesitant to reelect Biden in 2024: ‘He’s too old’

https://www.foxnews.com/media/black-voters-reveal-ny-times-reasons-theyre-hesitant-reelect-biden-2024-hes-old
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on November 25, 2023, 05:14:47 PM
Damn. Same ol shit I see.
Thank you for your insightful and thought provoking post, see you next year!
Hope the family is doing well.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 25, 2023, 09:03:48 PM
Hmmm the same 43% who couldn't fill a McDonald's car park if Pedo Joe had a
Meeting there.

I give the Libturds they did a grand job of cheating & corrupting an election
Fucking scumbag khvnts

I just feel like living in another country, you don't get it. The majority of Americans, don't buy hats, attend rallies, buy bumper stickers. They really don't. So Trumpsters are comparing their own religious zealously and left with a question of how could Biden, who didn't have this Jonestown cult religious experience to fall back on, beat Trump? The answer is because the majority oAmericans don't attend rallies, they sit back, review the facts, and then vote. It really is as simple as that.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on November 26, 2023, 08:01:06 AM
I just feel like living in another country, you don't get it. The majority of Americans, don't buy hats, attend rallies, buy bumper stickers. They really don't. So Trumpsters are comparing their own religious zealously and left with a question of how could Biden, who didn't have this Jonestown cult religious experience to fall back on, beat Trump? The answer is because the majority oAmericans don't attend rallies, they sit back, review the facts, and then vote. It really is as simple as that.
This another exposé on your naivety or your sheer ignorance to facts. American opinions are media driven, the media convinces and convicts in the court of public opinion, then when they are proven wrong, they release a small, two line blurb correcting themselves and move on from a topic they spent months or years blasting in our faces. To think that people look for facts instead of just blindly following the media or their friends opinions is just stupid. I would say you should be ashamed of yourself, but you have no shame as evidenced by your opinions posted here.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on November 26, 2023, 10:14:24 AM
This another exposé on your naivety or your sheer ignorance to facts. American opinions are media driven, the media convinces and convicts in the court of public opinion, then when they are proven wrong, they release a small, two line blurb correcting themselves and move on from a topic they spent months or years blasting in our faces. To think that people look for facts instead of just blindly following the media or their friends opinions is just stupid. I would say you should be ashamed of yourself, but you have no shame as evidenced by your opinions posted here.

I was going to answer the same.

I would say the majority of voters don't review the facts.  They find one or two media driven talking points that align with their beliefs, and vote.  Or they just do what Taylor Swift tells them.

If facts were reviewed, politicians would never be able to get away with continual lies (Trump said to drink bleach, said nazis were very fine people) like they were able use, when a simple google debunks them.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on November 26, 2023, 11:38:02 AM
This another exposé on your naivety or your sheer ignorance to facts. American opinions are media driven, the media convinces and convicts in the court of public opinion, then when they are proven wrong, they release a small, two line blurb correcting themselves and move on from a topic they spent months or years blasting in our faces. To think that people look for facts instead of just blindly following the media or their friends opinions is just stupid. I would say you should be ashamed of yourself, but you have no shame as evidenced by your opinions posted here.

You are correct, the media uses whatever hook they can to draw larger audiences. It is a vicious cycle because the greater the audience, the bigger the public’s impact is. Fortunately, the court of public opinion is not always consistent with the opinions of the legal system.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on November 26, 2023, 11:42:34 AM
Trump holds 7-point lead over Biden in new poll
By Michael Gryboski, Mainline Church Editor
CP POLITICS | THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 23, 2023
https://www.christianpost.com/news/trump-holds-7-point-lead-over-biden-in-new-poll.html
The TDS will be off the charts. Hope Libturds start jumping from buildings.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on November 26, 2023, 02:14:46 PM
I just feel like living in another country, you don't get it. The majority of Americans, don't buy hats, attend rallies, buy bumper stickers. They really don't. So Trumpsters are comparing their own religious zealously and left with a question of how could Biden, who didn't have this Jonestown cult religious experience to fall back on, beat Trump? The answer is because the majority oAmericans don't attend rallies, they sit back, review the facts, and then vote. It really is as simple as that.


Really - how come Bath House Barry had so many followers?
Hell check how many he has on Twitter & compare to Pedo Joe ,
Explain that one - they're both Dummycraps.

Oh the Libturds only want to follow Bath House Barry.

Stop with the nonsense.  Pls
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 27, 2023, 10:33:37 AM
This another exposé on your naivety or your sheer ignorance to facts. American opinions are media driven, the media convinces and convicts in the court of public opinion, then when they are proven wrong, they release a small, two line blurb correcting themselves and move on from a topic they spent months or years blasting in our faces. To think that people look for facts instead of just blindly following the media or their friends opinions is just stupid. I would say you should be ashamed of yourself, but you have no shame as evidenced by your opinions posted here.

I was going to answer the same.

I would say the majority of voters don't review the facts.  They find one or two media driven talking points that align with their beliefs, and vote.  Or they just do what Taylor Swift tells them.

If facts were reviewed, politicians would never be able to get away with continual lies (Trump said to drink bleach, said nazis were very fine people) like they were able use, when a simple google debunks them.

I agree.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 27, 2023, 10:34:16 AM
Dean Phillips says ‘it’s delusional’ to think Biden can beat Trump
Steff Danielle Thomas
November 25, 2023
https://news.yahoo.com/dean-phillips-says-delusional-think-185549803.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 27, 2023, 10:40:52 AM
Earth to Democrats: Biden presidency is a dumpster fire. How many warning signs do you need?
Ingrid Jacques, USA TODAY
November 26, 2023
https://news.yahoo.com/earth-democrats-biden-presidency-dumpster-090128089.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 27, 2023, 10:43:25 AM
Major Trump donors who soured on him after 2020 and Jan. 6 now insist he's their best choice
Some of them argue his demeanor and election denial don't eclipse his strengths.
By Soo Rin Kim
November 27, 2023
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/major-trump-donors-soured-after-2020-jan-6/story?id=104951161
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on November 27, 2023, 12:48:21 PM
I was going to answer the same.

I would say the majority of voters don't review the facts.  They find one or two media driven talking points that align with their beliefs, and vote.  Or they just do what Taylor Swift tells them.

If facts were reviewed, politicians would never be able to get away with continual lies (Trump said to drink bleach, said nazis were very fine people) like they were able use, when a simple google debunks them.

Who is Taylor Swift and why should I care what she says?  :) Just kidding, I have heard of Taylor Swift. But I don't know or care about what she says.

I don't think Trump ever said to drink bleach, at least not publicly. What Trump 'mused' and said was “I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute,” - “And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning?

Bleach has proven to be the most effective disinfectants. Household bleach or chlorine bleach is economical and is an effective disinfectant with a broad spectrum of antimicrobial activity. It is possible to inject bleach, but the side effects can be devastating including the possibility of death from kidney failure among other severe life-threatening negative side effects.

Hear it for yourself:

i=uAq4tk7unvVfehgh
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on November 27, 2023, 01:06:50 PM
Who is Taylor Swift and why should I care what she says?  :) Just kidding, I have heard of Taylor Swift. But I don't know or care about what she says.

I don't think Trump ever said to drink bleach, at least not publicly. What Trump 'mused' and said was “I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute,” - “And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning?

Bleach has proven to be the most effective disinfectants. Household bleach or chlorine bleach is economical and is an effective disinfectant with a broad spectrum of antimicrobial activity. It is possible to inject bleach, but the side effects can be devastating including the possibility of death from kidney failure among other severe life-threatening negative side effects.

Hear it for yourself:

i=uAq4tk7unvVfehgh

You are entirely correct.  I have seen the clip, and always knew he never said to drink bleach.

But it became such an accepted, media/democrat driven "truth", that even Kamala Harris felt comfortable enough to say it in the VP debate.  People still quote him as saying that.

Taylor Swift was obviously tongue-in-cheek because she's been rallying young people to vote.......normally I dismiss Hollywood/musician type when it comes to politics, but she has enough of a rabid following to maybe have some impact?

But back to Trump, although he never said bleach, he didn't help himself by just having these stream of consciousness conversations publicly during the pandemic.  It wasn't the right type of leadership needed.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on November 28, 2023, 01:28:39 PM
Koch-Backed Super PAC Endorses Nikki Haley For President
The endorsement represents a big win for Haley — and another blow to Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' presidential aspirations.
By Liz Skalka
Nov 28, 2023
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/koch-brothers-nikki-haley_n_65660a11e4b03ac1cd1774f0
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 30, 2023, 12:20:49 AM
Koch-Backed Super PAC Endorses Nikki Haley For President
The endorsement represents a big win for Haley — and another blow to Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' presidential aspirations.
By Liz Skalka
Nov 28, 2023
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/koch-brothers-nikki-haley_n_65660a11e4b03ac1cd1774f0
The republican establishment is really pushing her.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on November 30, 2023, 10:51:51 AM
The republican establishment is really pushing her.
Makes me laugh everytime I hear Haley as a potential President.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 30, 2023, 08:52:48 PM
They dream of saddling Trump with Haley as VP.

Sarah Huckabee FTW if any of this is real and they "have to have a woman VP".
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 01, 2023, 12:46:28 AM
Makes me laugh everytime I hear Haley as a potential President.
The Neocons love her.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on December 01, 2023, 02:11:05 PM
The republican establishment is really pushing her.

You are right. I sure looks that way.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on December 01, 2023, 08:07:31 PM
Ben Carson is reportedly on Trump's VP short list.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 02, 2023, 12:31:31 AM
Ben Carson is reportedly on Trump's VP short list.
I thought he died.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 02, 2023, 01:10:58 PM
I thought he died.


Dats raycissst.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/30/former-gop-presidential-candidate-herman-cain-dies-after-battle-with-coronavirus.html

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 05, 2023, 11:44:54 AM
Liz Cheney couldn't run for dog catcher in her own neighborhood. Either these people really are that delusion or the voting system is that rigged.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/disgraced-republican-liz-cheney-contemplates-3rd-party-run-target-trump
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on December 05, 2023, 11:55:47 AM
Liz Cheney couldn't run for dog catcher in her own neighborhood. Either these people really are that delusion or the voting system is that rigged.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/disgraced-republican-liz-cheney-contemplates-3rd-party-run-target-trump

She's irrelevant.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on December 05, 2023, 12:23:48 PM
She's irrelevant.

Don't count on this being the case. For someone irrelevant she gets a lot of 'air time.'
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 05, 2023, 12:35:37 PM
Don't count on this being the case. For someone irrelevant she get a lot of 'air time.'


Yeah, on MSNBC... Like Christie she's dreaming about having any national appeal.

In short, if you like them as "opposition" they don't have a prayer.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 11, 2023, 09:13:59 AM
SHOCK POLL: Nikki Haley Absolutely Wrecks Biden By Whopping 17 POINTS — And Trump Tops Biden By 4
Mediaite ^
Posted on 12/11/2023, 8:50:13 AM by Tench_Coxe

The odds may still be stacked against her in the Republican primary. But should former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley capture the nomination, a stunning new poll suggests the general election would be a cakewalk for her.

According to a new poll from the Wall Street Journal out Saturday, Haley — in a hypothetical one-on-one matchup with President Joe Biden — currently has a remarkable 17-point lead, 51-34. Should the matchup materialize and the margin hold, it would represent the largest winning general margin since 1984 — when former President Ronald Reagan topped Walter Mondale by 18 points.

Of course, in order for that matchup to happen, Haley would have to beat former President Donald Trump in the Republican primary — and the most recent polls still show her trailing in that contest by 40 points or more.

(Excerpt) Read more at mediaite.com ...

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 11, 2023, 11:32:27 AM
(https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/bidenzelenskywhnew.jpg?itok=Fn9UzQcC)


Biden meets with Z again tomorrow..what's 10% of 60 billion?

How does only half the country think we've already sent too much $$ to Ukraine war profiteers?

What a stupid electorate.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/zelensky-again-goes-washington-almost-half-us-voters-think-biden-spending-too-much
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on December 11, 2023, 08:22:55 PM
Don't count on this being the case. For someone irrelevant she gets a lot of 'air time.'

She lost her primary by like 30 points.  The only air time she gets is from liberals/progressives who hate Trump.  She definitely has a future as an MSNBC commentator.  Other than that, she's irrelevant.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on December 11, 2023, 08:23:31 PM
Dean Phillips calls Biden possibly 'unelectable' in 2024 after GOP impeachment inquiry
Phillips revealed he would vote against the House impeachment inquiry
By Nikolas Lanum Fox News
Published December 11, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/media/dean-phillips-calls-biden-possibly-unelectable-2024-gop-impeachment-inquiry
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on December 11, 2023, 08:27:10 PM
Poll: Biden Approval Rating Falls to Lowest Level Since He Took Office
HANNAH BLEAU KNUDSEN  9 Dec 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/12/09/poll-biden-approval-falls-lowest-level-since-taking-office/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on December 11, 2023, 08:29:37 PM
Trump Takes 2024 Lead as Biden Approval Hits New Low, WSJ Poll Finds
Unhappiness with Biden’s performance is pervasive, with economic pessimism weighing him down
By Aaron Zitner
Dec. 9, 2023
https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/trump-takes-2024-lead-as-biden-approval-hits-new-low-wsj-poll-finds-fb4fca0c?mod=djemalertNEWS
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on December 12, 2023, 09:38:50 AM
CNN Host Visibly Shook by New Trump Polling in Critical States: ‘This Isn’t Good’ – WATCH
By: Jason Walsh
December 12, 2023
https://www.dailyfetched.com/cnn-host-visibly-shook-by-new-trump-polling-in-critical-states-this-isnt-good/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 13, 2023, 01:40:34 AM
CNN Host Visibly Shook by New Trump Polling in Critical States: ‘This Isn’t Good’ – WATCH
By: Jason Walsh
December 12, 2023
https://www.dailyfetched.com/cnn-host-visibly-shook-by-new-trump-polling-in-critical-states-this-isnt-good/
Unbiased journalism. ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on December 20, 2023, 07:08:46 PM
Here's That Moment a Reporter Asks Biden About Losing to Trump in the Polls - Then Comes the Crash
By Nick Arama  on December 18, 2023
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2023/12/18/heres-that-moment-reporter-asks-biden-about-losing-to-trump-in-polls-then-comes-the-crash-n2167672
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on December 20, 2023, 07:09:34 PM
Poll: Trump Dominance Hits New Level as He Nears 70 Percent Support in GOP Primary
OLIVIA RONDEAU  17 Dec 2023
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2023/12/17/poll-trump-dominance-hits-new-level-nears-70-percent-support-gop-primary/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on December 20, 2023, 08:17:38 PM
Here's That Moment a Reporter Asks Biden About Losing to Trump in the Polls - Then Comes the Crash
By Nick Arama  on December 18, 2023
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2023/12/18/heres-that-moment-reporter-asks-biden-about-losing-to-trump-in-polls-then-comes-the-crash-n2167672

One of the comments referenced Shinzo Abe being shot twice in less time than it took SS to tuck POTUS in the vehicle.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on December 22, 2023, 09:48:29 AM
Nikki Haley within striking distance of Trump in NH GOP primary poll
By Josh Christenson
Published Dec. 22, 2023
https://nypost.com/2023/12/22/news/nikki-haley-closes-in-on-trump-in-nh-gop-primary-poll/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on December 22, 2023, 09:57:52 AM
Panic Setting in Among Democrats Over Joe Biden, 'It's Even Worse Than It Looks'
By Bonchie |  December 21, 2023
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/12/21/report-panic-setting-in-among-democrats-over-joe-biden-its-even-worse-than-it-looks-n2167804
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 23, 2023, 12:20:19 AM
Panic Setting in Among Democrats Over Joe Biden, 'It's Even Worse Than It Looks'
By Bonchie |  December 21, 2023
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/12/21/report-panic-setting-in-among-democrats-over-joe-biden-its-even-worse-than-it-looks-n2167804
They can't let him debate. It would be a disaster.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on December 23, 2023, 06:19:06 AM
They can't let him debate. It would be a disaster.

They said this during the first debate and DJT was a disaster.

He missed many softball questions.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on December 27, 2023, 12:27:45 PM
They said this during the first debate and DJT was a disaster.

He missed many softball questions.

I don't think there is any way they let Biden debate anyone, assuming he is the nominee.  But even if he did debate, Trump isn't disciplined enough to let Biden crash and burn during a debate, and the moderators and media will protect Biden.  Again. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on December 27, 2023, 12:34:08 PM
Don Jr. puts his dad on notice over buzz of Nikki Haley as VP pick, says he would intervene
By Ryan King
https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/donald-trump-jr-puts-his-dad-on-notice-over-buzz-of-haley-as-vp-pick/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on December 27, 2023, 02:24:38 PM
Don Jr. puts his dad on notice over buzz of Nikki Haley as VP pick, says he would intervene
By Ryan King
https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/donald-trump-jr-puts-his-dad-on-notice-over-buzz-of-haley-as-vp-pick/
When will people realize Haley is already bought. The stupidity of the average American is immense!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on December 27, 2023, 07:57:27 PM
When will people realize Haley is already bought. The stupidity of the average American is immense!

I don't give a rip about Niki Haley, but Don Jr. would do well to stay out of the spotlight. His comments as of late are to say the least, unimpressive. He doesn't come across as the sharpest tool in the shed.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Marvin Martian on December 27, 2023, 09:07:04 PM
I don't give a rip about Niki Haley, but Don Jr. would do well to stay out of the spotlight. His comments as of late are to say the least, unimpressive. He doesn't come across as the sharpest tool in the shed.

Yeh - Don Jr. isn’t remotely as brilliant as the Mensa level intellect of Hunter Biden!! 😆 You pedos don’t seem to care at all about Hunter and the big guy and their criminal activities WHILE demented Joe was serving as VP.

To be clear - only a fckn fool would blindly follow EITHER party - so as disgusting as you are there are certainly those who (while they are certainly morally superior) are just as dumb on the other side.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 28, 2023, 12:35:38 AM
When will people realize Haley is already bought. The stupidity of the average American is immense!
Yep.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 28, 2023, 11:18:12 AM
Isn't this the mute goon that was committed to a rubber room a few months ago?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Q: When I talk to voters, they’re worried about inflation. They really don’t like the economy. Are you not hearing that?


Fetterman's answer:

To me, it’s going to come down to good and evil and personalities and everything about this, too. It’s going to be a gut check kind of a situation where it’s just like, really? Really, really, as you’re going into the voting booth, do we want chaos and somebody that is in three or four criminal hearings? Is this somebody that you want to be their finger back on the button? Or do you want to have a decent and very effective president that has gotten us through the pandemic, addressed inflation and has been a real masterclass of diplomacy with Israel?

And that’s the thing. And if you want to be more pissed off about a $16 McDonald’s extra meal, I don’t know.


https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/27/john-fetterman-q-and-a-00133217



(https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/52cc942/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4000x2667+0+0/resize/630x420!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Ffc%2Ff2%2F0dced8844848bc7f62434d8a82cc%2Fu-s-senate-57414.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 28, 2023, 11:59:23 PM
Historically, people would choose to pay less for a Happy Meal.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 29, 2023, 07:47:15 AM
Historically, people would choose to pay less for a Happy Meal.


Guess that purple tard is the new Grimace.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: IroNat on December 29, 2023, 07:54:22 AM
Fetterman in 2028!

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/bf188a1100fbbb290e795de61dc045a3/tenor.gif?itemid=14926880)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on December 29, 2023, 12:09:00 PM
Isn't this the mute goon that was committed to a rubber room a few months ago?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Q: When I talk to voters, they’re worried about inflation. They really don’t like the economy. Are you not hearing that?


Fetterman's answer:

To me, it’s going to come down to good and evil and personalities and everything about this, too. It’s going to be a gut check kind of a situation where it’s just like, really? Really, really, as you’re going into the voting booth, do we want chaos and somebody that is in three or four criminal hearings? Is this somebody that you want to be their finger back on the button? Or do you want to have a decent and very effective president that has gotten us through the pandemic, addressed inflation and has been a real masterclass of diplomacy with Israel?

And that’s the thing. And if you want to be more pissed off about a $16 McDonald’s extra meal, I don’t know.


https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/27/john-fetterman-q-and-a-00133217



(https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/52cc942/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4000x2667+0+0/resize/630x420!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Ffc%2Ff2%2F0dced8844848bc7f62434d8a82cc%2Fu-s-senate-57414.jpg)

I know he is disabled from his stroke, but I cannot believe we put someone like him in office, who is clearly incompetent, over Dr. Oz.  I don't really follow Dr. Oz, but the man is smart and competent. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on December 29, 2023, 12:48:45 PM
Isn't this the mute goon that was committed to a rubber room a few months ago?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Q: When I talk to voters, they’re worried about inflation. They really don’t like the economy. Are you not hearing that?


Fetterman's answer:

To me, it’s going to come down to good and evil and personalities and everything about this, too. It’s going to be a gut check kind of a situation where it’s just like, really? Really, really, as you’re going into the voting booth, do we want chaos and somebody that is in three or four criminal hearings? Is this somebody that you want to be their finger back on the button? Or do you want to have a decent and very effective president that has gotten us through the pandemic, addressed inflation and has been a real masterclass of diplomacy with Israel?

And that’s the thing. And if you want to be more pissed off about a $16 McDonald’s extra meal, I don’t know.


https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/27/john-fetterman-q-and-a-00133217



(https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/52cc942/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4000x2667+0+0/resize/630x420!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Ffc%2Ff2%2F0dced8844848bc7f62434d8a82cc%2Fu-s-senate-57414.jpg)
This guy shouldn't have any say in the laws governing the people or the direction of this country.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on December 29, 2023, 03:01:16 PM
This guy shouldn't have any say in the laws governing the people or the direction of this country.

He should be in a rehab hospital.  Not the Senate.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 30, 2023, 01:05:33 AM
I know he is disabled from his stroke, but I cannot believe we put someone like him in office, who is clearly incompetent, over Dr. Oz.  I don't really follow Dr. Oz, but the man is smart and competent.
Pennsylvania has made some weird political choices.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: AbrahamG on December 30, 2023, 01:33:10 AM
Dr. Oz is an asshole but I hope Fatterman is one and done.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on December 30, 2023, 10:19:08 AM
Fetterman was on a little bit of a roll with his statements on the border, Israel, and Menendez/Santos.

But anyone who thinks Biden's doing a decent job is delusional.  The border is so f'n bad and dangerous to the American people, that I think it warrants his removal from office.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 30, 2023, 10:23:24 AM
Pennsylvania has made some weird political choices selections.


Put this right up there with the 81 million fix.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on December 31, 2023, 09:45:03 AM
Pennsylvania has made some weird political choices.
NE is TRASH!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 01, 2024, 12:49:37 AM
NE is TRASH!
Philly runs the state and is where all the late night ballots come from.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 01, 2024, 07:46:22 PM
I don't give a rip about Niki Haley, but Don Jr. would do well to stay out of the spotlight. His comments as of late are to say the least, unimpressive. He doesn't come across as the sharpest tool in the shed.

He comes across as very smart, because he is very smart.  Love him or hate him, Trump raised some good kids. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 01, 2024, 07:47:17 PM
Fetterman was on a little bit of a roll with his statements on the border, Israel, and Menendez/Santos.

But anyone who thinks Biden's doing a decent job is delusional.  The border is so f'n bad and dangerous to the American people, that I think it warrants his removal from office.

The border crisis is the worst in American history.  Elections have consequences.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 01, 2024, 08:05:12 PM
One of the best three minute speeches I've heard.  Trump should have this guy on his VP short list.



Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson BREAKS INTERNET With Fiery Speech Slamming Biden, BLM, and ANTIFA
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on January 01, 2024, 10:59:31 PM
One of the best three minute speeches I've heard.  Trump should have this guy on his VP short list.



Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson BREAKS INTERNET With Fiery Speech Slamming Biden, BLM, and ANTIFA


Excellent speech. 👏👏👏👏👏
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 03, 2024, 12:26:42 PM
Gov. Kristi Noem to Newsmax: Nikki Haley as Trump Running Mate a 'Mistake'
By Sandy Fitzgerald  | 03 January 2024
https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/kristi-noem-nikki-haley-donald-trump/2024/01/03/id/1148070/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on January 03, 2024, 12:32:37 PM
One of the best three minute speeches I've heard.  Trump should have this guy on his VP short list.



Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson BREAKS INTERNET With Fiery Speech Slamming Biden, BLM, and ANTIFA

Good speech, but my internet still works.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 03, 2024, 12:46:52 PM
Good speech, but my internet still works.

Are you sure? Try putting "Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson speech" in Google and see what pops up.  Mostly negative headlines/characterizations of his speeches. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on January 03, 2024, 12:59:08 PM
Are you sure? Try putting "Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson speech" in Google and see what pops up.  Mostly negative headlines/characterizations of his speeches.

That unfortunately is the the state of the state.

If anyone took the time to look at my history, probably been saying this here for 7+ years - the biggest threat to our nation is a dishonest media, and big tech censorship under the guise of an unthinking algorithm.

I believe it even more now.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 03, 2024, 01:25:08 PM
That unfortunately is the the state of the state.

If anyone took the time to look at my history, probably been saying this here for 7+ years - the biggest threat to our nation is a dishonest media, and big tech censorship under the guise of an unthinking algorithm.

I believe it even more now.

It is really sinister.  If you (not you personally) don't look at media sources that run the spectrum, you have no way of knowing just how badly news and information are manipulated.  From misleading headlines, to censorship, to pushing certain stories down the search results on Google, it's pretty bad.  It absolutely helps shape public opinion.  I don't trust most of what I read. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 04, 2024, 12:16:32 AM
It is really sinister.  If you (not you personally) don't look at media sources that run the spectrum, you have no way of knowing just how badly news and information are manipulated.  From misleading headlines, to censorship, to pushing certain stories down the search results on Google, it's pretty bad.  It absolutely helps shape public opinion.  I don't trust most of what I read.
Yep, propaganda 24/7. Just like Pravda during the Soviet years.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 04, 2024, 07:31:07 AM
It is really sinister.  If you (not you personally) don't look at media sources that run the spectrum, you have no way of knowing just how badly news and information are manipulated.  From misleading headlines, to censorship, to pushing certain stories down the search results on Google, it's pretty bad.  It absolutely helps shape public opinion.  I don't trust most of what I read.


All the late night talk shows are completely political in nature...and not a real joke to be seen. The writers must be getting their talking points daily. Saw some of it visiting realatives over the holidays. I haven't had cable in nearly a decade.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on January 04, 2024, 08:19:50 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-fraying-coalition-black-hispanic-young-voters-abandon-biden-as-election-year-begins/ar-AA1miN2d?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=DCTS&cvid=5304ca4e707c4d01b3ca38225f95ca0d&ei=141

Demented Joe is DONE!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 05, 2024, 12:12:52 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-fraying-coalition-black-hispanic-young-voters-abandon-biden-as-election-year-begins/ar-AA1miN2d?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=DCTS&cvid=5304ca4e707c4d01b3ca38225f95ca0d&ei=141

Demented Joe is DONE!
Nothing a few million fake ballots can't overcome.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 05, 2024, 09:10:45 PM

All the late night talk shows are completely political in nature...and not a real joke to be seen. The writers must be getting their talking points daily. Saw some of it visiting realatives over the holidays. I haven't had cable in nearly a decade.

I don't watch them.  They are all hacks.  They ruined late night shows. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 05, 2024, 09:11:27 PM
Not going to work.

Biden’s First 2024 Campaign Speech Recycles Old Attacks on Trump
JOEL B. POLLAK   5 Jan 2024
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/01/05/bidens-first-2020-campaign-speech-recycles-old-attacks-on-trump/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: IroNat on January 06, 2024, 04:03:37 AM
(https://i.etsystatic.com/5709199/r/il/b3dfce/1105424478/il_794xN.1105424478_93zz.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on January 06, 2024, 09:02:09 AM
Not going to work.

Biden’s First 2024 Campaign Speech Recycles Old Attacks on Trump
JOEL B. POLLAK   5 Jan 2024
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/01/05/bidens-first-2020-campaign-speech-recycles-old-attacks-on-trump/
Biden's campaign LOL what a joke. The libturds who voted for such a demented idiot are also idiots. Worst President in American history. Those who voted for that c unt should go stick their heads in the sand.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on January 06, 2024, 06:16:23 PM
Nothing a few million fake ballots can't overcome.

Another way to consider it are the 42,918 votes in AZ, WI, and GA.  Flip those and the vote goes to the Republican-controlled House.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 10, 2024, 05:52:11 PM
Christie urges GOP primary voters not to vote for Trump after dropping out: ‘He will pick himself’
BY LAUREN SFORZA - 01/10/24
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4401669-christie-urges-gop-primary-voters-not-to-vote-for-trump/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 11, 2024, 12:48:26 AM
Christie urges GOP primary voters not to vote for Trump after dropping out: ‘He will pick himself’
BY LAUREN SFORZA - 01/10/24
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4401669-christie-urges-gop-primary-voters-not-to-vote-for-trump/
Why would anyone listen to want Christie wants?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 11, 2024, 06:24:34 AM
Biden's campaign LOL what a joke. The libturds who voted for such a demented idiot are also idiots. Worst President in American history. Those who voted for that c unt should go stick their heads in the sand.

Not looking good for Joey
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 11, 2024, 06:25:50 AM
I don't watch them.  They are all hacks.  They ruined late night shows.

When they went on strike, zero fucks were given by anybody.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on January 11, 2024, 06:55:19 AM
I think there will be a significant amount of voters who don't like Biden, like Trump's policies, but don't care for the turmoil that comes with is presidency.

In a tight race it can make a difference.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on January 11, 2024, 08:50:40 AM
I think there will be a significant amount of voters who don't like Biden, like Trump's policies, but don't care for the turmoil that comes with is presidency.

In a tight race it can make a difference.


So Many folk are to highly & easily influenced by MSM
if MSM backed Donald & sang his praises the vast majority
who dislike him would very soon love & vote for him.
He'd win by a landslide.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on January 11, 2024, 12:18:09 PM

So Many folk are to highly & easily influenced by MSM
if MSM backed Donald & sang his praises the vast majority
who dislike him would very soon love & vote for him.
He'd win by a landslide.

Had you posted that most folks are influenced by all types of media and not just MSM you would be right on. Media is any channel of communication.  Media refers to television, radio, newspaper, internet, etc. 'People choose news (media) that fits their views.' This is human nature. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 11, 2024, 01:11:38 PM
Why would anyone listen to want Christie wants?

Nobody is listening to Fat Man.  He's nothing more than fodder for the liberal media to attack Trump. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 11, 2024, 01:11:59 PM
When they went on strike, zero fucks were given by anybody.

None.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 11, 2024, 01:21:17 PM
I think there will be a significant amount of voters who don't like Biden, like Trump's policies, but don't care for the turmoil that comes with is presidency.

In a tight race it can make a difference.

I agree.  I actually think voter apathy will play a significant role.  Biden will still get big numbers overall because of California and New York, but a lot of voters in swing states will likely stay home. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on January 11, 2024, 01:24:44 PM

So Many folk are to highly & easily influenced by MSM
if MSM backed Donald & sang his praises the vast majority
who dislike him would very soon love & vote for him.
He'd win by a landslide.

I agree with this.

An honest unpartisan media with investigative journalistic integrity, would cure a lot of ills and perceived divisiveness in this country.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on January 11, 2024, 01:27:11 PM
Had you posted that most folks are influenced by all types of media and not just MSM you would be right on. Media is any channel of communication.  Media refers to television, radio, newspaper, internet, etc. 'People choose news (media) that fits their views.' This is human nature.


I choose both what I like & what I don't like as I try to figure out
what or who others think & on the odd rare occasion may agree & change
my thoughts & views - Only not very often as I am usually always correct  ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on January 11, 2024, 07:05:01 PM

I choose both what I like & what I don't like as I try to figure out
what or who others think & on the odd rare occasion may agree & change
my thoughts & views - Only not very often as I am usually always correct  ;D

Why am I not surprised the you believe you are usually correct. I give you credit for not saying that you are never wrong.  ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on January 12, 2024, 09:33:44 AM
Why am I not surprised the you believe you are usually correct. I give you credit for not saying that you are never wrong.  ;D


It's not that I believe I'm usually correct - I am usually correct.  😊  👊🏻
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 12, 2024, 11:31:09 AM
Trump posted this.  Hilarious.   ;D

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on January 12, 2024, 12:25:26 PM
Trump posted this.  Hilarious.   ;D




 ;D ;D :D ;D :D :D  Ha Ha Ha
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on January 12, 2024, 12:30:30 PM
Trump posted this.  Hilarious.   ;D



Hahahahaha!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on January 12, 2024, 02:31:31 PM
Hahahahaha!
;D where that old corrupt pos belongs!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on January 12, 2024, 07:01:06 PM
Trump posted this.  Hilarious.   ;D


;D ;D :D ;D :D :D  Ha Ha Ha

Hahahahaha!
;D where that old corrupt pos belongs!

My, my what will you all have left to post about when the 2024 election is over? If Biden wins, it will be the same old nonsense. If Trump manages to get elected, who knows? And what if neither of them wins the election? What then?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2024, 12:52:30 AM
My, my what will you all have left to post about when the 2024 election is over? If Biden wins, it will be the same old nonsense. If Trump manages to get elected, who knows? And what if neither of them wins the election? What then?


If Biden wins it’s more death and destruction and corruption.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on January 13, 2024, 01:00:27 AM

If Biden wins it’s more death and destruction and corruption.

If you say so... ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on January 13, 2024, 02:21:17 AM
My, my what will you all have left to post about when the 2024 election is over? If Biden wins, it will be the same old nonsense. If Trump manages to get elected, who knows? And what if neither of them wins the election? What then?

Devoid of a sense of humour are you ?
You cannot see the funny side  ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on January 13, 2024, 02:05:40 PM
Devoid of a sense of humour are you ?
You cannot see the funny side  ::)

I am not devoid of humor so much as selective about what I find humorous. Seeking laughs at someone else's expense is rarely funny in my opinion. I prefer it when folks, including professional comedians make fun of themselves. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on January 13, 2024, 02:28:05 PM

If Biden wins it’s more death and destruction and corruption.
He will surely get us into WW3.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on January 13, 2024, 03:05:24 PM
I am not devoid of humor so much as selective about what I find humorous. Seeking laughs at someone else's expense is rarely funny in my opinion. I prefer it when folks, including professional comedians make fun of themselves.


FFS Prime - The man's a walking cluster Fuck nearly everything he does
is Hilarious - If his wife or any one cared about him they'd take him out
of the public spot light - he's openly ridiculed on news stations around the world - Yet you wish to remain Blind.  ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on January 13, 2024, 05:17:20 PM

Seems like that funny video struck a nerve with some senile old farts.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2024, 05:36:02 PM
I am not devoid of humor so much as selective about what I find humorous. Seeking laughs at someone else's expense is rarely funny in my opinion. I prefer it when folks, including professional comedians make fun of themselves.
f that.    Biden has gotten tens of thousands killed.    F him and f you for voting for this disaster. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 13, 2024, 07:16:25 PM
If you say so... ::)

What’s the matter? Two involved wars, on the brink of WWIII and a Civil war inside if three years isn’t enough for you?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on January 13, 2024, 10:21:48 PM

FFS Prime - The man's a walking cluster Fuck nearly everything he does
is Hilarious - If his wife or any one cared about him they'd take him out
of the public spot light - he's openly ridiculed on news stations around the world - Yet you wish to remain Blind.  ::)

By 'The man' I assume you mean President Biden. You missed the point. My nonspecific response was about humor at other folks' expense. You made it about a particular video posted by Trump who was trolling/mocking President Biden.

I have repeatedly stated that I dislike Trump as a person. One of the reasons for this is that he routinely mocks, ridicules, and invents untrue nonsense to hurt other people. What is worse, he is not doing it for a laugh, he does it to mock and denigrate them, which is the modus operandi for him because he is narcissistic sociopath.

In fact, he is the very definition of a narcissistic sociopath: 'Narcissistic sociopaths seek to ingratiate themselves with power, money, pleasure, and other niceties and do so at the expense of others. They might lie, cheat, steal, and manipulate to get their way, and disregard other people's feelings, needs, wants, and even safety to achieve their goals.'

Mental illness is never funny, and Trump is clearly mentally ill.

BTW, nothing in this response is intended to be humorous... so you got me here.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on January 13, 2024, 10:30:11 PM
What’s the matter? Two involved wars, on the brink of WWIII and a Civil war inside if three years isn’t enough for you?

Are you suggest President started these wars? Or maybe you believed Trump when he said if he were President these wars would not have happened. -Easy for him to say. Impossible for him to prove and he knows this.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on January 14, 2024, 02:17:20 AM
By 'The man' I assume you mean President Biden. You missed the point. My nonspecific response was about humor at other folks' expense. You made it about a particular video posted by Trump who was trolling/mocking President Biden.

I have repeatedly stated that I dislike Trump as a person. One of the reasons for this is that he routinely mocks, ridicules, and invents untrue nonsense to hurt other people. What is worse, he is not doing it for a laugh, he does it to mock and denigrate them, which is the modus operandi for him because he is narcissistic sociopath.

In fact, he is the very definition of a narcissistic sociopath: 'Narcissistic sociopaths seek to ingratiate themselves with power, money, pleasure, and other niceties and do so at the expense of others. They might lie, cheat, steal, and manipulate to get their way, and disregard other people's feelings, needs, wants, and even safety to achieve their goals.'

Mental illness is never funny, and Trump is clearly mentally ill.

BTW, nothing in this response is intended to be humorous... so you got me here.

Since I am not President Biden, his wife or his doctor, I would not know and will not speculate about it.


Hypocrisy at its Finest

You won't speculate regarding your Hero Pedo Joe
Yet you do regarding Donald complete with a detailed breakdown  ::)

Just flat out Ridiculous & Blatant Hypocrisy by you.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 14, 2024, 11:36:28 AM

Hypocrisy at its Finest

You won't speculate regarding your Hero Pedo Joe
Yet you do regarding Donald complete with a detailed breakdown  ::)

Just flat out Ridiculous & Blatant Hypocrisy by you.

Not to mention that pedo Joe actually has done in office all of the things that the claim Trump wants to do.    And thry don’t say a peep.   PrimeQueen is a typical lib
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on January 14, 2024, 01:29:22 PM
Not to mention that pedo Joe actually has done in office all of the things that the claim Trump wants to do.    And thry don’t say a peep.   PrimeQueen is a typical lib

The worst is that people actually believe DJT is a "threat to democracy" when it's THIS admin that has been proven colluding with big tech to censor stories, weaponizing government agencies to thwart investigations, and is trying to get their political opponents removed from a ballot.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on January 14, 2024, 01:32:02 PM
Not to mention that pedo Joe actually has done in office all of the things that the claim Trump wants to do.    And thry don’t say a peep.   PrimeQueen is a typical lib


Yep - The old accuse others of what you are doing Tactic - Just like with the China virus Scam
They know there's a large percentage that will believe it.  ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 14, 2024, 01:47:14 PM
The worst is that people actually believe DJT is a "threat to democracy" when it's THIS admin that has been proven colluding with big tech to censor stories, weaponizing government agencies to thwart investigations, and is trying to get their political opponents removed from a ballot.

It’s galling that these creeps accuse Trump of things that he never did while president while pedo Joe has actually conducted himself like a tyrant. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on January 14, 2024, 02:52:24 PM

Hypocrisy at its Finest

You won't speculate regarding your Hero Pedo Joe
Yet you do regarding Donald complete with a detailed breakdown  ::)

Just flat out Ridiculous & Blatant Hypocrisy by you.

Tony, is the detailed breakdown you refer to the definition of a narcissistic sociopath?

My assessment (or if you prefer, speculation) of Trump's personality disorder is based on personal observation of what he publicly says and does. Basically, if the shoe fits, wear it applies here. And the shoe definitely appears to fit perfectly, IMO.

Based on my observation, President Biden's mental health is fine. I am not going to speculate about his physical  health, just as I have not speculated about Trump's. There are videos of both men occasionally stumbling, falling. Unflattering and manipulated videos and photos are ‘par for the course’ in the media. These are not a reliable source for accurate assessment or even speculation.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on January 14, 2024, 03:08:43 PM
It’s galling that these creeps accuse Trump of things that he never did while president while pedo Joe has actually conducted himself like a tyrant.

He also is completely divisive, but ran on unity.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Irongrip400 on January 14, 2024, 03:30:09 PM
If you say so... ::)

It’s what the history has shown. More death and destruction under Biden than Trump.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on January 14, 2024, 03:52:17 PM
Tony, is the detailed breakdown you refer to the definition of a narcissistic sociopath?

My assessment (or if you prefer, speculation) of Trump's personality disorder is based on personal observation of what he publicly says and does. Basically, if the shoe fits, wear it applies here. And the shoe definitely appears to fit perfectly, IMO.

Based on my observation, President Biden's mental health is fine. I am not going to speculate about his physical  health, just as I have not speculated about Trump's. There are videos of both men occasionally stumbling, falling. Unflattering and manipulated videos and photos are ‘par for the course’ in the media. These are not a reliable source for accurate assessment or even speculation.


Hypocrisy at its Finest from you.
You speculate on Donald
& play Posum on Joe .

Based on my Observations Pedo Joe has Dementia & is proped up by the smart pills & they're failing to help him.
A case of if the Boot fits , wear it & it Fits Joe perfectly. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on January 15, 2024, 01:55:54 PM
From the NY Times.  Can someone find a similar picture in the Times of the Clintons, Obama, or Biden?

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2024/01/14/multimedia/14spiers-gjcm/14spiers-gjcm-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp)

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 15, 2024, 09:08:03 PM
Trump continues to be the most remarkable political story of my lifetime.  The fact he is poised to runaway with the nomination and is leading in the general election polls, after everything they have done to this man, is just astounding.

Trump wins massive victory in Iowa, DeSantis edges Haley for second in 1st GOP presidential nominating contest
Former President Donald Trump wins the Iowa caucuses, the first contest in 2024 GOP presidential nominating calendar
By Paul Steinhauser Fox News
Published January 15, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-quickly-secures-victory-iowa-others-battle-second-first-gop-presidential-nominating-election
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 15, 2024, 09:08:56 PM
Probably on the VP short list.  Definitely will be part of the Trump cabinet if he wins IMO.

Ramaswamy suspends 2024 bid, endorses Trump
BY CAROLINE VAKIL - 01/15/24
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4047227-vivek-ramaswamy-2024-race-donald-trump-iowa-caucuses/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 15, 2024, 09:16:09 PM
My, my what will you all have left to post about when the 2024 election is over? If Biden wins, it will be the same old nonsense. If Trump manages to get elected, who knows? And what if neither of them wins the election? What then?

It's a funny post Buzz Killington. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 15, 2024, 10:01:11 PM
Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
Trump is winning ALL 99 counties in Iowa. Full spectrum WIN.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 16, 2024, 12:46:00 AM
Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
Trump is winning ALL 99 counties in Iowa. Full spectrum WIN.
He ended up losing 1 county by 1 vote.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Irongrip400 on January 16, 2024, 02:55:43 AM
From the NY Times.  Can someone find a similar picture in the Times of the Clintons, Obama, or Biden?

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2024/01/14/multimedia/14spiers-gjcm/14spiers-gjcm-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp)

Dafuq?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 16, 2024, 06:25:32 AM
Next up supreme court steps in to say Trump runs on all 50 state ballots as the obvious GOP front runner. Anything less and they take part in the destruction of actual voting forever. There is no coming back from keeping the guy who is almost certain to win from running.

All of the above stated is assuming you actually believe in the process at this point.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on January 16, 2024, 10:25:55 AM
CNN and MSNBC showed Haley and DeSantis speeches, but not Trump.

Full on propagandists at this point.  Not even hiding it.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on January 16, 2024, 11:03:47 AM
CNN and MSNBC showed Haley and DeSantis speeches, but not Trump.

Full on propagandists at this point.  Not even hiding it.
Filthy c unts!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 16, 2024, 04:17:03 PM
Trump Shatters Record for Biggest Win in History of Iowa Republican Caucuses
NICK GILBERTSON   15 Jan 2024
https://1ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2F2024-election%2F2024%2F01%2F15%2Ftrump-shatters-record-biggest-win-history-iowa-gop-caucuses%2F
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 16, 2024, 04:17:59 PM
All GOP 2024 candidates promise Jan. 6 pardons
By Paul Bedard
January 15, 2024
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2796551/all-gop-2024-candidates-promise-jan-6-pardons/#google_vignette
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 16, 2024, 08:01:28 PM
Poll: Donald Trump Dominates Joe Biden in Georgia

Former President Donald Trump has taken the lead over President Joe Biden in Georgia, the latest AJC poll found.

The survey showed Trump, the runaway frontrunner in the Republican primary race, leading the incumbent in the Peach State by eight percentage points — 45 percent to Biden’s 37 percent support.

Another seven percent said they supported an “other candidate,” six percent said they “will not vote,” and six percent said they “don’t know.”

What is more is Trump’s dominance among independent voters in Georgia, leading Biden by double digits — 54 percent to 37 percent.

Further, the AJC poll found that black voters, “the party’s most loyal constituency, are split” over Biden’s job performance. Overall, 62 percent of registered voters disapproved of Biden’s job performance:

The survey was taken January 3-11, 2024, among 1,007 registered Georgia voters. The margin of error is ± 3.1 percent.

This is not the only survey as of late that has shown Trump besting Biden in the key swing state. A December survey from Daily Mail-J.L. Partners showed Trump leading Biden by three points — 39 percent to 36 percent — in the Peach State:

A Redfield & Wilton Strategies survey released in early January also showed Trump leading Biden in several key swing states, including Georgia, 42 percent to 34 percent:

To see the actual polls…

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/01/16/poll-donald-trump-dominates-joe-biden-in-georgia/








Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 17, 2024, 01:26:21 AM
CNN and MSNBC showed Haley and DeSantis speeches, but not Trump.

Full on propagandists at this point.  Not even hiding it.
Drudge Report headline was that half the republicans voting against Trump. ::) These people will meltdown like never before if he wins the presidency again.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 17, 2024, 06:20:14 AM
Drudge Report headline was that half the republicans voting against Trump. ::) These people will meltdown like never before if he wins the presidency again.


In 2019 Matt Drudge obviously got a memo and a check and had to make a choice whether he'd like to stay above ground or not. The site is lefty wish list trash.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on January 17, 2024, 06:33:59 AM
Drudge Report headline was that half the republicans voting against Trump. ::) These people will meltdown like never before if he wins the presidency again.

This is why we are still dealing with Trump today.

When he won in 2016, the Washington Post said the impeachment process start now, the next day.

Relentless attacks on every single thing.  Made up collusion charges, made up quotes that made it into the zeitgeist, and after his presidency, made up court stuff.

If the media were honest, and just treated him and Biden normally, giving credit for their successes and criticism where warranted, this divisiveness wouldn't exitst.

And to be honest, I'm not sure the divisiveness really does exist, I think 95% of this country gets along fine, but it's made out to be at odds due to social media and some loons.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 17, 2024, 10:41:07 AM
Drudge Report headline was that half the republicans voting against Trump. ::) These people will meltdown like never before if he wins the presidency again.

I thought the same thing.  Utterly ridiculous.   Meanwhile - that disgusting pedophile corrupt creep Biden won't even allow a primary.  So much for his bs "save muh democracy nonsense"  Only to old white liberals near death does this nonsense appeal too.   
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 17, 2024, 11:04:50 AM
Uh oh.  The Georgia indictment doesn't seem to be working. 

AJC poll: Trump leads Biden in pivotal Georgia
By Greg Bluestein and Michelle Baruchman
Jan 16, 2024
https://www.ajc.com/politics/ajc-poll-trump-leads-biden-in-pivotal-georgia/3MVR7TBMC5EDNEULPE5FA6GZXE/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 17, 2024, 11:45:45 AM
Uh oh.  The Georgia indictment doesn't seem to be working. 

AJC poll: Trump leads Biden in pivotal Georgia
By Greg Bluestein and Michelle Baruchman
Jan 16, 2024
https://www.ajc.com/politics/ajc-poll-trump-leads-biden-in-pivotal-georgia/3MVR7TBMC5EDNEULPE5FA6GZXE/

Liberal scumbags and pedos have literally nothing to run on this election season. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 17, 2024, 11:47:33 AM
Liberal scumbags and pedos have literally nothing to run on this election season.

They never run on the issues.  They always just try and scare or anger their base to keep the zombies in line.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on January 17, 2024, 03:09:37 PM

Hypocrisy at its Finest from you.
You speculate on Donald
& play Posum on Joe .

Based on my Observations Pedo Joe has Dementia & is proped up by the smart pills & they're failing to help him.
A case of if the Boot fits , wear it & it Fits Joe perfectly.

Thankyou Dr. Tony, if all I subscribed to was right wing media, I would also draw that conclusion about President Biden. Fortunately, I don't automatically accept everything I see or read without some investigation. Which of the eight types of dementia do you believe President Biden suffers from? Do you know where I buy 'smart pills' I am almost as old as President Biden. So, dementia might be in my near future. I would like to see if they make me smarter than I currently am. ;)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on January 17, 2024, 03:18:22 PM
Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
Trump is winning ALL 99 counties in Iowa. Full spectrum WIN.
You do realize that Iowa's caucus had a very low turnout. Only 15% of the population voted. If nothing else, Trump and MAGA followers are devoted and loyal, likely much more so than Haley or DeSantis. Trump won the state by a mere 8% in 2020 that is a small margin. But, like they say, it only takes one vote to win.  :)   
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on January 17, 2024, 03:23:16 PM

In 2019 Matt Drudge obviously got a memo and a check and had to make a choice whether he'd like to stay above ground or not. The site is lefty wish list trash.

Something clearly happened to its content after Trump took office.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on January 17, 2024, 03:23:33 PM
Won’t be long until Mr. Trump is back in control.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 17, 2024, 04:01:24 PM
You do realize that Iowa's caucus had a very low turnout. Only 15% of the population voted. If nothing else, Trump and MAGA followers are devoted and loyal, likely much more so than Haley or DeSantis. Trump won the state by a mere 8% in 2020 that is a small margin. But, like they say, it only takes one vote to win.  :)

What I realize is, regardless of how you want to spin it, this was an historic and resounding win for Trump.  No getting around that.  He spent a fraction of the money.  He did not visit every county like DeSantis and likely Haley.  And he still crushed them. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 17, 2024, 07:00:33 PM
Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president
The Republican U.S. senator threw his support behind the former president during a Fox News appearance.
BY WILLIAM MELHADO
JAN. 16, 2024
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/01/16/ted-cruz-endorsement-donald-trump/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Irongrip400 on January 17, 2024, 07:04:47 PM
Thankyou Dr. Tony, if all I subscribed to was right wing media, I would also draw that conclusion about President Biden. Fortunately, I don't automatically accept everything I see or read without some investigation. Which of the eight types of dementia do you believe President Biden suffers from? Do you know where I buy 'smart pills' I am almost as old as President Biden. So, dementia might be in my near future. I would like to see if they make me smarter than I currently am. ;)


Quit trolling. You know damn well Biden is a demented old man. Not every 80 year old suffers from dementia, but he clearly does.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 18, 2024, 04:50:35 PM

Quit trolling. You know damn well Biden is a demented old man. Not every 80 year old suffers from dementia, but he clearly does.

You got it all wrong man.  Didn't you know?


He can walk and talk just fine.  Like everyone doesn’t trip.  ::)

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 18, 2024, 04:51:16 PM
 :-\

Michelle Obama could 'sneak her way' into the 2024 presidential race, NY Post columnist warns
Michelle Obama recently revealed she's 'terrified' of what might happen in this next election
By Hanna Panreck Fox News
Published January 18, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/media/michelle-obama-could-sneak-way-into-2024-presidential-race-ny-post-columnist-warns
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 18, 2024, 04:52:33 PM
Trump 'is eyeing NY Rep. Elise Stefanik as potential vice presidential running mate' after 'being impressed with her killer performance' at Ivy League anti-Semitism hearings
Stefanik's star has been on the rise since leading campus anti-Semitism hearings
New York Rep was first member of GOP leadership to endorse Trump for 2024
Trump reportedly called her 'a killer' in recent dinner at Mar-a-Lago to discuss VP
By STEPHEN M. LEPORE FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 18 January 2024
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12977061/Donald-Trump-eyeing-Elise-Stefanik-Vice-President-2024.html?ico=related-replace
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on January 18, 2024, 07:06:35 PM

Quit trolling. You know damn well Biden is a demented old man. Not every 80 year old suffers from dementia, but he clearly does.

It is obvious that you damn well think Biden is a demented old man, but there almost no way that you could know it for a fact. You have no clue what I do or don't know. How could you? You don't know me.

Troll on!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on January 18, 2024, 10:30:36 PM
Thankyou Dr. Tony, if all I subscribed to was right wing media, I would also draw that conclusion about President Biden. Fortunately, I don't automatically accept everything I see or read without some investigation. Which of the eight types of dementia do you believe President Biden suffers from? Do you know where I buy 'smart pills' I am almost as old as President Biden. So, dementia might be in my near future. I would like to see if they make me smarter than I currently am. ;)

Trying to be a smart arse doesn't stop you being a Hypocrite.
I have no idea which type of Dementia my Dad had & neither did I care , seeing my dad decline
& watching what & how Biden does tells me he's not all there.
Watch any of news stations from around the world laughing at his behaviour - are they all right wing stations,
Take your head out your arse & wake up at 80 odd your far past playing stupid all the time its pathetic.
Yet you seem to think you're intellectually clever.

Hypocrite. Own it.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 19, 2024, 08:28:02 AM
:-\

Michelle Obama could 'sneak her way' into the 2024 presidential race, NY Post columnist warns
Michelle Obama recently revealed she's 'terrified' of what might happen in this next election
By Hanna Panreck Fox News
Published January 18, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/media/michelle-obama-could-sneak-way-into-2024-presidential-race-ny-post-columnist-warns

That fat slob is not sneaking anywhere as she can be heard from miles away. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 19, 2024, 10:05:28 AM
That fat slob is not sneaking anywhere as she can be heard from miles away.

She would be more competitive than President Biden on the Democrat side, but I doubt she wants to get up off the couch.  She and her husband should just focus on spending their millions and enjoying the great life that the greatest country on earth provides for them.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 19, 2024, 12:34:54 PM
Tim Scott to endorse Trump over Haley, his former governor, ahead of S. Carolina GOP primary
Scott dropped out of the GOP presidential primary before balloting even began in Iowa earlier this week
By Just the News staff
Published: January 19, 2024
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/tim-scott-endorses-trump-over-haley-his-own-governor-ahead-s-carolina-gop?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 19, 2024, 07:00:29 PM
He's not wrong.  I really like DeSantis, but he should drop out before Florida.  It would be pretty humiliating for him to get drubbed by Trump in Flordia.  Same for Haley in South Carolina, but I doubt she drops out.

Trump dubs DeSantis one of the greatest ‘self-destructions I think I’ve ever witnessed’
BY CAROLINE VAKIL - 01/19/24
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4419014-trump-say-desanis-great-self-destructions-ever-witnessed/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on January 21, 2024, 12:38:58 PM
DeSantis drops out and endorses Trump.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 22, 2024, 11:25:18 AM
DeSantis drops out and endorses Trump.

Smart.  He should be Trump's VP.

Trump: I’m ‘Very Honored’ to Have Gov. Ron DeSantis’s Endorsement
By: Jason Walsh
January 22, 2024
https://www.dailyfetched.com/trump-im-very-honored-to-have-ron-desantiss-endorsement/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 22, 2024, 12:32:51 PM
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Biden said he is not in favor of their independence either. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on January 22, 2024, 02:01:56 PM
Smart.  He should be Trump's VP.

Trump: I’m ‘Very Honored’ to Have Gov. Ron DeSantis’s Endorsement
By: Jason Walsh
January 22, 2024
https://www.dailyfetched.com/trump-im-very-honored-to-have-ron-desantiss-endorsement/

He didn't want to burn his 2028 run.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 22, 2024, 02:29:06 PM
He didn't want to burn his 2028 run.

Yeah.  He should have waited.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on January 22, 2024, 03:46:46 PM
Yeah.  He should have waited.
I get the feeling he was throwing his feelers out and testing the waters. Maybe just took it too far to see how he would fair against Trump.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Irongrip400 on January 22, 2024, 04:06:04 PM
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(https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F469fdf25-89d0-4cdf-88af-dc165f723384_686x1024.jpeg)


We don’t even have official ties with Taiwan. Most countries don’t recognize them as a real country.


I don’t think we should leave them twisting in the wind though, just making a statement that shows most of the world seems to think the same way.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on January 22, 2024, 06:57:56 PM

We don’t even have official ties with Taiwan. Most countries don’t recognize them as a real country.


I watched a video that said if China ever invades, Taiwan is poised to destroy the Three Gorges Dam which would kill over a million people and devastate the food sources.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 22, 2024, 08:05:24 PM
I get the feeling he was throwing his feelers out and testing the waters. Maybe just took it too far to see how he would fair against Trump.

I agree.  Plus he was riding a wave after his huge win in Florida. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on January 22, 2024, 08:50:51 PM

We don’t even have official ties with Taiwan. Most countries don’t recognize them as a real country.


I don’t think we should leave them twisting in the wind though, just making a statement that shows most of the world seems to think the same way.

After over 20 years, the UN stopped recognizing Taiwan as an actual country in 1971.  CCP's sway was too great.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: loco on January 23, 2024, 06:46:48 AM
2024

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Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on January 23, 2024, 10:28:14 AM
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If they stand against the establishment that sowed the seeds of Trumpism, that means they stand against the Obama administration.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 23, 2024, 10:36:35 AM
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::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on January 23, 2024, 11:35:13 AM
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Is this that little whiny prick Shapiro?

"NeverTrump" but he voted for Trump in 2020... So much for his "belief system" and his "principles".
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on January 23, 2024, 03:57:21 PM
I agree.  Plus he was riding a wave after his huge win in Florida.
Best thing he could do is continue on the positive path in Florida and set himself into a good position for 2028. Lead by example.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: The Scott on January 23, 2024, 04:48:47 PM
Why these conservative candidates choose to go against Mr. Trump is beyond reason.  Mr. Trump represents the true American, i.e., Conservatives.  To belittle Mr. Trump is to flip off America.

Just like the democucks do.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 23, 2024, 08:12:46 PM
Best thing he could do is continue on the positive path in Florida and set himself into a good position for 2028. Lead by example.

Yeah I agree.  People have short memories, so I don't think this campaign will hurt him.  If he continues the stellar job he has done as governor, he should be the frontrunner in 2028. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 23, 2024, 08:14:10 PM
Democrats cannot just run on issues and play it straight.  Always relying on fear, tricks, media bias, etc.  It's the only way they win.

Nikki Haley voter in New Hampshire:

"It was a strategic vote… I wouldn't vote for her in a general election. A vote for Haley helps diminish Trump's influence."

https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1749964661640790246
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 23, 2024, 08:17:07 PM
Biden, Trump win New Hampshire primaries decisively: Live updates
Former President Donald Trump easily won New Hampshire’s primary on Tuesday, seizing command of the race for the Republican nomination and making a November rematch against President Joe Biden feel all the more inevitable.
Last Updated: January 23, 2024
https://apnews.com/live/%20new-hampshire-primary-results-updates
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 24, 2024, 06:11:40 AM
She still has money. That’s the only reason she won’t drop out. Her chances of winning are zero.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 24, 2024, 06:12:43 AM
Why these conservative candidates choose to go against Mr. Trump is beyond reason.  Mr. Trump represents the true American, i.e., Conservatives.  To belittle Mr. Trump is to flip off America.

Just like the democucks do.

Many on the right are doing well with the status quo. Trump, like him or not, is a disruptor.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 24, 2024, 01:40:19 PM
She still has money. That’s the only reason she won’t drop out. Her chances of winning are zero.

That and she is hoping to pick up some delegates to give her some say in what happens going forward.  I don't think it's going to work, because getting crushed in her home state of South Carolina could cause a lot of damage to her brand. 

But never underestimate the donor class and their willingness to flush millions of dollars down the toilet (Jeb Bush, etc.). 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 24, 2024, 01:47:38 PM
Many on the right are doing well with the status quo. Trump, like him or not, is an attention addict

Can you imagine the level of mental illness we’re gonna see if Trump wins again?

It would be great if they committed mass suicide but much like them going to Canada I don’t expect it.😢
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on January 24, 2024, 02:00:19 PM
Haley LOL what a joke. No one can derail the Trump Train!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on January 24, 2024, 02:46:59 PM
Seems that Haley's 43% was really just 12% of Republican voters.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4426773-70-percent-haley-voters-new-hampshire-not-republicans-exit-poll/

70 percent of Haley voters in New Hampshire were not registered Republicans: CNN exit poll

Seven in 10 voters supporting Nikki Haley in the New Hampshire GOP primary were not registered Republicans, according to a CNN exit poll.

The poll found 70 percent of voters who backed Haley in the primary on Tuesday were undeclared, or independent, while only 27 percent were Republicans. The remaining 3 percent were unregistered as voters before participating in the primary.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 24, 2024, 04:39:30 PM
Seems that Haley's 43% was really just 12% of Republican voters.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4426773-70-percent-haley-voters-new-hampshire-not-republicans-exit-poll/

70 percent of Haley voters in New Hampshire were not registered Republicans: CNN exit poll

Seven in 10 voters supporting Nikki Haley in the New Hampshire GOP primary were not registered Republicans, according to a CNN exit poll.

The poll found 70 percent of voters who backed Haley in the primary on Tuesday were undeclared, or independent, while only 27 percent were Republicans. The remaining 3 percent were unregistered as voters before participating in the primary.

Trump apparently got about 70 percent of the Republican vote.  And a record number of votes in the primary. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on January 24, 2024, 04:49:32 PM
Trump apparently got about 70 percent of the Republican vote.  And a record number of votes in the primary.

And Trump is leading at 62% to Haley's 25% in her home state of South Carolina.  She'll squeeze in another month of fundraising before dropping out.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on January 24, 2024, 05:21:53 PM
Many on the right are doing well with the status quo. Trump, like him or not, is an attention addict
Says the guy that supports Joe Bitem....the guy that ran for president 3 (or 4) times before he was finally installed. ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 24, 2024, 05:31:27 PM
And Trump is leading at 62% to Haley's 25% in her home state of South Carolina.  She'll squeeze in another month of fundraising before dropping out.

DeSantis was smart enough to quit before getting drubbed in in Florida.  Haley not so much.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 24, 2024, 06:32:35 PM
lol

'Stay Hidden': Van Jones Offers Some Campaign Advice to Biden
Leah Barkoukis
January 24, 2024
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2024/01/24/van-jones-advice-to-biden-n2634104
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 24, 2024, 06:34:05 PM
 :-\

Michelle Obama may already be working on a 2024 White House bid, writes columnist. What is her game plan?
Last Updated: 22 January, 2024
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/michelle-obama-may-already-be-working-on-a-2024-white-house-bid-writes-columnist-what-is-her-game-plan/articleshow/107084791.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 24, 2024, 06:34:57 PM
BREAKING: President Trump breaks record for most votes ever received in NH primary
President Donald J. Trump scored a decisive victory on Tuesday night in New Hampshire, and also set a new record.
The Post Millennial
Jan 24, 2024
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-president-trump-breaks-record-for-most-votes-ever-received-in-nh-primary?utm_campaign=64487
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on January 25, 2024, 02:33:07 AM
Says the guy that supports Joe Bitem....the guy that ran for president 3 (or 4) times before he was finally installed. ::)

where did I say I supported biddy biden?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: loco on January 25, 2024, 05:23:54 AM
Says the guy that supports Joe Bitem....the guy that ran for president 3 (or 4) times before he was finally installed. ::)

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on January 25, 2024, 04:52:01 PM
where did I say I supported biddy biden?
Over there on that one post awhile back.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 25, 2024, 05:50:24 PM
Trump opens up lead over Biden in rematch many Americans don't want
Jason Lange
Updated January 25, 2024
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/americans-dismayed-biden-trump-2024-110629085.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9jaXRpemVuZnJlZXByZXNzLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAllPZzoUqHsFVQhmyGQYmy6qSapg-B6fdUT9hfMcCqSQuz-nE_0DGfdVJDCfmey-wM9vTHSbSrnuBAp_2qaYHCttVjthbD922OdEABv_ZDoyuPf3F5vaxnBinEEceBKoU81lnwvzFrmtEQzAicKQungNEhIvBKqKmgUMoAFzhRJ
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on January 26, 2024, 02:55:31 AM
Over there on that one post awhile back.

Please be honest and identify the actual post rather than just make a vague statement because you don't agree with some of what I have posted
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 26, 2024, 10:02:44 AM
Please be honest and identify the actual post rather than just make a vague statement because you don't agree with some of what I have posted

You complaining about making vague statements is probably the funniest thing I will read today.   ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on January 26, 2024, 10:20:26 AM
You complaining about making vague statements is probably the funniest thing I will read today.   ;D

You ought to socialise more often
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on January 26, 2024, 10:59:47 AM
"[For] all his faults, Trump would be better for business than Biden. Trump cut the top tax rate and improved their bottom lines. He is promising to do the same again. Trump’s railing against corporatism is just red meat for the base. He would also boost the fossil fuel industry and commercial real estate. The assumption of business leaders that Trump will fulfil these promises is almost certainly right. "

Edward Luce
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 26, 2024, 11:30:13 AM
You ought to socialise more often

If you meant socialize, then nah I'm good.  And reading things on a message board isn't really socializing.  But your comment is still pretty darn funny.   ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on January 26, 2024, 04:38:24 PM
Please be honest and identify the actual post rather than just make a vague statement because you don't agree with some of what I have posted
I don't have a specific post, I use the democrat math of "if you don't support X, then you must support Y and Y = evil, therefore, you support evil"
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on January 31, 2024, 07:06:44 PM
Biden holds six-point national lead over Trump, fueled by female voters: poll
By Social Links forDiana Glebova
Published Jan. 31, 2024
https://nypost.com/2024/01/31/news/biden-holds-six-point-national-lead-over-trump-fueled-by-women-poll/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 01, 2024, 12:42:08 AM
Biden holds six-point national lead over Trump, fueled by female voters: poll
By Social Links forDiana Glebova
Published Jan. 31, 2024
https://nypost.com/2024/01/31/news/biden-holds-six-point-national-lead-over-trump-fueled-by-women-poll/
Repeal the 19th Amendment.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 01, 2024, 05:40:39 AM
Biden holds six-point national lead over Trump, fueled by female voters: poll
By Social Links forDiana Glebova
Published Jan. 31, 2024
https://nypost.com/2024/01/31/news/biden-holds-six-point-national-lead-over-trump-fueled-by-women-poll/

I hope its their kids (who they didnt abort) sent to fight in Bidens wars all so they can feel free to kill off their future kids. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on February 01, 2024, 06:39:31 AM
Biden holds six-point national lead over Trump, fueled by female voters: poll
By Social Links forDiana Glebova
Published Jan. 31, 2024
https://nypost.com/2024/01/31/news/biden-holds-six-point-national-lead-over-trump-fueled-by-women-poll/

White liberal women are literally the worst thing for this country.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 01, 2024, 08:02:34 AM
White liberal women are literally the worst thing for this country.

They are the worst for any country.   Their entire existence is complete crap. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 01, 2024, 09:34:01 AM
White liberal women are literally the worst thing for this country.

For all their bullshit about being strong and independent they really want big government to take care of them as evidenced by the way they vote.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on February 01, 2024, 09:56:13 AM
For all their bullshit about being strong and independent they really want big government to take care of them as evidenced by the way they vote.

You would think that high city crime and continued migrant encroachment would be the straw that breaks the camel's back to them, due to the over protective nature they have with their kids.

Maybe that does factor in, but is overwhelmed by the single ones who spend all day bitching online.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on February 01, 2024, 03:59:04 PM
White liberal women are literally the worst thing for this country.
1000%
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 02, 2024, 12:40:06 AM
White liberal women are literally the worst thing for this country.
Truth! The dumbest of the dumb.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 02, 2024, 06:03:26 AM
Truth! The dumbest of the dumb.

At this point the colleges are mostly women pursuing useless degrees. Doesn’t bode well for the future of the country.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 05, 2024, 10:43:53 AM
NBC Slams Panic Button over ‘Biggest Lead’ Trump Has Ever Had in Poll over Biden
By: Jason Walsh
February 5, 2024
https://www.dailyfetched.com/nbc-slams-panic-button-over-biggest-lead-trump-has-ever-had-in-poll-over-biden/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 05, 2024, 10:47:58 AM
Donald Trump Obliterates Joe Biden in Swing-State Poll
By: Jason Walsh
February 1, 2024
https://www.dailyfetched.com/trump-obliterates-joe-biden-in-swing-state-poll/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 06, 2024, 05:45:11 PM
She drops a lot of names.  I think Rubio, Pompeo, Carson and others would be good choices. 

Who Should Be Trump’s No. 2?
Feb. 5, 2024
https://1ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2024%2F02%2F05%2Fopinion%2Ftrump-vice-president.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 07, 2024, 01:08:55 AM
She drops a lot of names.  I think Rubio, Pompeo, Carson and others would be good choices. 

Who Should Be Trump’s No. 2?
Feb. 5, 2024
https://1ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2024%2F02%2F05%2Fopinion%2Ftrump-vice-president.html
It will be that chick from South Dakota.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 07, 2024, 09:16:32 AM
Imagine knowing your guy/platform sucks so bad that you're trying to put the other guy in prison or disqualify him from running.

It's almost like it was planned.  8)

Trump would win this from prison. Problem is he's walking right into a depression created by the red left so nothing will change for regular people.

Again, voting in 4 year cycles to fix problems and central planning that are decades in the making isn't going to work.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 07, 2024, 10:37:48 AM
It will be that chick from South Dakota.

Could be.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 07, 2024, 10:39:18 AM
Could be.

Didnt she have affair issues with the husband?   Trump needs a rand paul type 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 07, 2024, 10:43:21 AM
Didnt she have affair issues with the husband?   Trump needs a rand paul type

Yep.  With Corey Lewandowski.  Allegedly.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 07, 2024, 10:44:03 AM
BREAKING: Nikki Haley loses Nevada primary to 'None of These Candidates'
"None of these candidates" was essentially a nod to Trump, who was not on the ballot.
The Post Millennial
Feb 6, 2024
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-nikki-haley-loses-nevada-primary-to-none-of-these-candidates?utm_campaign=64487
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on February 07, 2024, 01:59:50 PM
BREAKING: Nikki Haley loses Nevada primary to 'None of These Candidates'
"None of these candidates" was essentially a nod to Trump, who was not on the ballot.
The Post Millennial
Feb 6, 2024
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-nikki-haley-loses-nevada-primary-to-none-of-these-candidates?utm_campaign=64487
:o :o :o :o :o :o




















































































































































































 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)  no surprise there.



Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on February 07, 2024, 05:34:26 PM
BREAKING: Nikki Haley loses Nevada primary to 'None of These Candidates'
"None of these candidates" was essentially a nod to Trump, who was not on the ballot.
The Post Millennial
Feb 6, 2024
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-nikki-haley-loses-nevada-primary-to-none-of-these-candidates?utm_campaign=64487
That's embarrassing.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 07, 2024, 05:47:13 PM
That's embarrassing.

Getting destroyed in her home state:

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on February 08, 2024, 05:24:40 PM
BREAKING: Nikki Haley loses Nevada primary to 'None of These Candidates'
"None of these candidates" was essentially a nod to Trump, who was not on the ballot.
The Post Millennial
Feb 6, 2024
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-nikki-haley-loses-nevada-primary-to-none-of-these-candidates?utm_campaign=64487

Nikki Haley went to the Oracle of Delphi and asked "If I run for President, who can defeat me?" and the Oracle responded "If you run for President, none of these candidates will defeat you."

Heartened, Haley announced her campaign the next day.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 08, 2024, 07:46:40 PM
Nikki Haley went to the Oracle of Delphi and asked "If I run for President, who can defeat me?" and the Oracle responded "If you run for President, none of these candidates will defeat you."

Heartened, Haley announced her campaign the next day.

lol
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 09, 2024, 01:06:01 AM
That's embarrassing.
She needs to drop out. Her chances for 2028 are dwindling by staying in this long.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 09, 2024, 10:17:51 AM
Trump wins in Nevada GOP caucus
By Derek Draplin | The Center Square
https://www.thecentersquare.com/nevada/article_b647c3fc-c6cb-11ee-b04a-8707f02e2019.html?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 09, 2024, 11:40:39 AM
 :o

Citizen Free Press
@CitizenFreePres
Holy Shit.

Michael Rappaport actually admits he was wrong about Charlottesville.

It was a giant media lie.

All independent voters need to see this.

https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1756028745268236357
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 09, 2024, 03:31:04 PM
President Kamala Harris? The embattled vice president with only a 28% approval rating is now 'squarely an issue' in the 2024 race after blundering Biden's stumbles and gaffes trigger 25th Amendment chatter
Americans are weighing a future led by President Kamala Harris , after President Joe Biden made series of public speaking errors
Harris' approval ratings continue to slide as an NBC poll conducted in January revealed that 53% of voters view her negatively
By CHARLIE SPIERING
PUBLISHED: 9 February 2024
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13065689/president-kamala-harris-25th-amendment-joe-biden-press-conference.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 09, 2024, 03:44:23 PM
Democrats don't have many options if they want to replace Biden
Madison Hall
February 9, 2024
https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-dont-many-options-want-160341413.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 09, 2024, 05:45:40 PM
Democrats don't have many options if they want to replace Biden
Madison Hall
February 9, 2024
https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-dont-many-options-want-160341413.html


If you think about it, this would give the left some talking points for the next election cycle while they drop a depression on Trump. All of these horrible anti-American policies are grinding in place right now.


"we would've won but...senile candidate...nobody saw it till just now"

"it wasn't that the country didn't like the direction of our policy but...idiot VP that couldn't run for dog catcher"

"it wasn't open borders or sending billions to other countries....far right supreme court let a racist run"

...and so on.


Trump needs to win to save his skin and his kid's inheritance in this politically weaponized world the left has created. Any other reason and he should not run. Whoever presides next is going to have a hole that has been dug the last 4 years that nobody can fill.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 11, 2024, 12:01:40 PM
The "too senile to be charged" results.


(https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/bfmE3C5.jpg?itok=9ps60A0p)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on February 11, 2024, 04:58:48 PM
The "too senile to be charged" results.


(https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/bfmE3C5.jpg?itok=9ps60A0p)

You love posting meaningless charts.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on February 11, 2024, 05:46:14 PM
You love posting meaningless charts.

Let's cut right to the chase - Lets see your answers , without it's,  but's or excuses.

1, are these 2  Men or Women ? 
2, Can men become women ? 
3, Should men be allowed to compete in women's sport's ?

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 11, 2024, 07:36:22 PM
You love posting meaningless charts.


You love reading them. I'm sure if it were the other way around you'd be fine with it.

The point of posting that was to show that word was getting out about the mental state of POTUS.

Proud of you for not bringing up Trump as well.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 12, 2024, 01:11:23 AM
:o

Citizen Free Press
@CitizenFreePres
Holy Shit.

Michael Rappaport actually admits he was wrong about Charlottesville.

It was a giant media lie.

All independent voters need to see this.

https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1756028745268236357
Surprised he would admit being wrong.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 12, 2024, 04:40:09 AM
Surprised he would admit being wrong.

Liberal failures on this board will never admit the same 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 12, 2024, 07:20:59 AM
The flood gates are now open. The press got the call that they are now allowed to report on this subject.

This is an ABC poll.... IT'S OVER.  :o


"A poll conducted in the wake of probably the worst week of his Presidency has found that a whopping 86 percent of Americans do not feel Joe Biden is in good enough shape to serve another term.

The poll by ABC News/Ipsos was carried out Saturday, after the Special Counsel report that described Biden as “an elderly man with a poor memory,” and after he ended up angrily yelling at reporters for asking questions about the issue."


https://modernity.news/2024/02/11/abc-news-poll-almost-ninety-percent-believe-biden-isnt-fit-to-serve/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 12, 2024, 12:51:51 PM
Just imagine how dull Mr Trumps circus would be if he were only 3 years older

(https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2235f994-9228-4492-89b4-6212033bcb05_890x499.jpeg)

I’ve never seen anything quite like TDS and how it affects people’s minds to where they lose all rationality and all their grip on reality.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 12, 2024, 12:55:13 PM
I’ve never seen anything quite like TDS and how it affects people’s minds to where they lose all rationality and all their grip on reality.

Everything in that column Biden has done and is guilty of.  TDS is a terminal mental disease and affliction. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on February 12, 2024, 01:12:38 PM

You love reading them. I'm sure if it were the other way around you'd be fine with it.

The point of posting that was to show that word was getting out about the mental state of POTUS.

Proud of you for not bringing up Trump as well.

I might enjoy reading them better if you would post the source of these charts. Also where does this chart say anything about the POTUS' mental state?

Both Trump and Biden make bazaar comments. It is difficult to know which of them are really what they said verses manipulated speech to present them in a negative light.

Sorry for the repetition, but once again both men are too old to be President. One of them may also be crazy. Overall, the 2024 Presidential election is a sorry mess as is the current congress that cannot seem to get anything accomplished aside from partisan ridicule and degradation.
 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on February 12, 2024, 01:33:21 PM
The Trump train is unstoppable. Cannot wait for President Trump to have his REVENGE term! The Libturds will scatter back into their worthless holes.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 12, 2024, 01:40:45 PM
I might enjoy reading them better if you would post the source of these charts. Also where does this chart say anything about the POTUS' mental state?

Both Trump and Biden make bazaar comments. It is difficult to know which of them are really what they said verses manipulated speech to present them in a negative light.

Sorry for the repetition, but once again both men are too old to be President. One of them may also be crazy. Overall, the 2024 Presidential election is a sorry mess as is the current congress that cannot seem to get anything accomplished aside from partisan ridicule and degradation.


The date of the chart coincides with the report that Biden is too senile for charges and then him going on TV all weird and angry about it. Most recent ABC poll says 86% of all polled don't think he should run for a second term. That was before he went on TV to talk about potato chip bag sizes while we send another 95 billion overseas.

Congress passes every spending bill they get a kickback from. That's all of them. I'm not waiting for any of these people to act in my interest but one thing I do know is that Biden will not be a two term POTUS.

My question today is... are the markets pricing in these all time highs because it is obvious Trump will trample?

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on February 12, 2024, 01:56:12 PM

The date of the chart coincides with the report that Biden is too senile for charges and then him going on TV all weird and angry about it. Most recent ABC poll says 86% of all polled don't think he should run for a second term. That was before he went on TV to talk about potato chip bag sizes while we send another 95 billion overseas.

Congress passes every spending bill they get a kickback from. That's all of them. I'm not waiting for any of these people to act in my interest but one thing I do know is that Biden will not be a two term POTUS.

My question today is... are the markets pricing in these all time highs because it is obvious Trump will trample?

Big business benefitted when Trump was in office. Their hope and prediction are that this will happen again if Trump wins the election. What I find interesting is that the average U.S. citizen will not do so well in the long-term, but they cannot see this. Trump only pretends to champion the middle-class. He has never walked in the shoes of the middle-class therefore he cannot know what we feel and need. Biden on the other hand has forgotten what being a middle-class was like, (this is me intentionally being snide). LOL!

If any of what we are seeing and hearing in the media is true, I agree, Biden will not be a two term POTUS.
 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on February 12, 2024, 01:59:49 PM
Big business benefitted when Trump was in office. Their hope and prediction are that this will happen again if Trump wins the election. What I find interesting is that the average U.S. citizen will not do so well in the long-term, but they cannot see this. Trump only pretends to champion the middle-class. He has never walked in the shoes of the middle-class therefore he cannot know what we feel and need. Biden on the other hand has forgotten what being a middle-class was like, (this is me intentionally being snide). LOL!

If any of what we are seeing and hearing in the media is true, I agree, Biden will not be a two term POTUS.
Shouldn't have been a one term Potus, guy is absolutely WORTHLESS!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on February 12, 2024, 02:04:32 PM
Shouldn't have been a one term Potus, guy is absolutely WORTHLESS!

Thanks for expressing your opinion. Can you explain in what ways you believe Biden is worthless? Just to say someone is worthless is a broad statement completely lacking a detailed definition.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on February 12, 2024, 02:09:05 PM
Thanks for expressing your opinion. Can you explain in what ways you believe Biden is worthless? Just to say someone is worthless is a broad statement completely lacking a detailed definition.
He's worthless in too many ways to sit and describe, not worth my time. He'll be a distant bad memory come November and my only wish for him is that he suffers in the end! Pompous, old POS just as Obama was minus the age.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on February 12, 2024, 02:10:47 PM
Thanks for expressing your opinion. Can you explain in what ways you believe Biden is worthless? Just to say someone is worthless is a broad statement completely lacking a detailed definition.

Easy - He's mentally impaired  - Talks to dead people - has no clue whare he is - easily angered -
Constantly lying - untrustworthy - can't be left to walk on his own without a guide for fear he wanders
Off the stage or into bushes - he's  pedo, sniffing young children & commenting on their legs etc.


Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on February 12, 2024, 02:13:19 PM
Easy - He's mentally impaired  - Talks to dead people - has no clue whare he is - easily angered -
Constantly lying - untrustworthy - can't be left to walk on his own without a guide for fear he wanders
Off the stage or into bushes - he's  pedo, sniffing young children & commenting on their legs etc.

Or so you like to believe.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on February 12, 2024, 02:18:39 PM
Or so you like to believe.

You're being very wilfully stupid - we've all seen many examples of all that I posted
even some MSM has shown it -

Only except for you , You haven't seen any of it have you  ::)

🤣😂🤣😂🤣  Jeez how can you act so stupid & try to be serious.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on February 12, 2024, 02:32:44 PM
You're being very wilfully stupid - we've all seen many examples of all that I posted
even some MSM has shown it -

Only except for you , You haven't seen any of it have you  ::)

🤣😂🤣😂🤣  Jeez how can you act so stupid & try to be serious.
Libs...deaf, dumb and blind cannot be any clearer to me.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on February 12, 2024, 02:33:03 PM
You're being very wilfully stupid - we've all seen many examples of all that I posted
even some MSM has shown it -

Only except for you , You haven't seen any of it have you  ::)

🤣😂🤣😂🤣  Jeez how can you act so stupid & try to be serious.

For you seeing is confirmation of your foregone beliefs. For other more rational folks, believing everything we see is misleading. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on February 12, 2024, 02:39:07 PM
For you seeing is confirmation of your foregone beliefs. For other more rational folks, believing everything we see is misleading.
Use the brain you were born with be an independent thinker stop relying on others to sift your way through life. Just a sad way to live.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on February 12, 2024, 02:39:17 PM
For you seeing is confirmation of your foregone beliefs. For other more rational folks, believing everything we see is misleading.


For you running away & avoiding answering these 3 simple questions is everything
Let's cut right to the chase - Lets see your answers , without it's,  but's or excuses.
You're answers are ??

1, are these 2  Men or Women ?
2, Can men become women ?
3, Should men be allowed to compete in women's sport's ?

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on February 12, 2024, 02:53:32 PM

For you running away & avoiding answering these 3 simple questions is everything
Let's cut right to the chase - Lets see your answers , without it's,  but's or excuses.
You're answers are ??

1, are these 2  Men or Women ?
2, Can men become women ?
3, Should men be allowed to compete in women's sport's ?

Thanks for proving my point.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on February 12, 2024, 03:46:44 PM
Thanks for proving my point.

What is it you're afraid of answering the questions?
What are you Hiding?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on February 12, 2024, 04:28:21 PM
What is it you're afraid of answering the questions?
What are you Hiding?

Do you mean hiding in plain sight?  ;)

What? You missed me while I was out running errands for an hour. Aww, so sorry to have abandoned you and your posts. BTW, I don't answer dumb questions.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on February 12, 2024, 05:01:18 PM
You love posting meaningless charts.
Pot/kettle
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on February 12, 2024, 06:59:51 PM
Do you mean hiding in plain sight?  ;)

What? You missed me while I was out running errands for an hour. Aww, so sorry to have abandoned you and your posts. BTW, I don't answer dumb questions.

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 12, 2024, 07:16:42 PM
Democrats replacing Biden with Michelle Obama a ‘ginned-up conspiracy theory’
By Christian Datoc
February 12, 2024
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/2848239/democrats-michelle-obama-replace-biden-convention/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 12, 2024, 08:03:27 PM
Democrats replacing Biden with Michelle Obama a ‘ginned-up conspiracy theory’
By Christian Datoc
February 12, 2024
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/2848239/democrats-michelle-obama-replace-biden-convention/


Sure are a lot of opinions about the replacement all of a sudden.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 13, 2024, 07:45:50 PM
Democrats flip Santos’s New York House seat in high-stakes special election
BY JARED GANS - 02/13/24
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4465973-tom-suozzi-democrats-mazi-pillip-george-santos-new-york/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 13, 2024, 07:47:49 PM
Sounds about right.  Will likely be one of these.

Meet 5 Democrats who have been floated as possible Biden replacements
President facing increased scrutiny over questions surrounding his mental stamina
By Brandon Gillespie Fox News
Published February 13, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/meet-5-democrats-floated-possible-biden-replacements
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 13, 2024, 08:55:02 PM
The best bet is still Kamala. Yeah, she's dumb but she's VP and checks the boxes. It can be like Obama's first term where you can't criticize her being a woman person of color. Not like she's going to say anything worse than Biden at this point. They'll say she doesn't have to debate because Trump is racist, etc. She can read the script just like poopy pants.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on February 13, 2024, 09:00:45 PM
The best bet is still Kamala. Yeah, she's dumb but she's VP and checks the boxes. It can be like Obama's first term where you can't criticize her being a woman person of color. Not like she's going to say anything worse than Biden at this point. They'll say she doesn't have to debate because Trump is racist, etc. She can read the script just like poopy pants.
No way they push Kuntmala. She was bottom of the barrel last time. They only pushed her as VP to guilt white liberal women into voting for the black woman. Same as they did with Obama, trying to convince people to be a part of "history" ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 13, 2024, 09:07:31 PM
The best bet is still Kamala. Yeah, she's dumb but she's VP and checks the boxes. It can be like Obama's first term where you can't criticize her being a woman person of color. Not like she's going to say anything worse than Biden at this point. They'll say she doesn't have to debate because Trump is racist, etc. She can read the script just like poopy pants.

You may be right but I would be surprised. Kamala seems to have been a failure even among the left. No one really expects a VP to do anything. Pence didn't do anything. But.... Pence never had a chance at President either. Had Kamala established herself from the get go as something more than a couple checked boxes, she may have had a chance at it. But I can't think of one stand out thing in the last 4 years she's done, championed, or represented. She may have been working 16 hrs a day behind the scenes but that doesn't count to voters. So I don't think she's in line for anything but fading into history.

IF Michelle Obama could be convinced to run, I think she would be the best candidate of the pool of choices. She has no political history like Trump, but unlike Trump, she graduated from a prestigious college, Princeton and then Harvard Law. She's smart, articulate and likeable. Things Trump is not. It will be difficult to overcome the Female minority thing but given her opposition, I think people who voted independent and for Biden last time, would feel compelled to repeat that.  The fact her husband would be her support would be a big help. While Hillary had Bill Clinton, Clinton was impeached and Hillary was a witch.. so that held her back.

But, I highly doubt Michelle would do it. If she did, I'd vote for her. I prefer her over Trump or Biden. I think I prefer apporximately 400 million people over either of those two.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on February 13, 2024, 10:54:55 PM
You may be right but I would be surprised. Kamala seems to have been a failure even among the left. No one really expects a VP to do anything. Pence didn't do anything. But.... Pence never had a chance at President either. Had Kamala established herself from the get go as something more than a couple checked boxes, she may have had a chance at it. But I can't think of one stand out thing in the last 4 years she's done, championed, or represented. She may have been working 16 hrs a day behind the scenes but that doesn't count to voters. So I don't think she's in line for anything but fading into history.

IF Michelle Obama could be convinced to run, I think she would be the best candidate of the pool of choices. She has no political history like Trump, but unlike Trump, she graduated from a prestigious college, Princeton and then Harvard Law. She's smart, articulate and likeable. Things Trump is not. It will be difficult to overcome the Female minority thing but given her opposition, I think people who voted independent and for Biden last time, would feel compelled to repeat that.  The fact her husband would be her support would be a big help. While Hillary had Bill Clinton, Clinton was impeached and Hillary was a witch.. so that held her back.

But, I highly doubt Michelle would do it. If she did, I'd vote for her. I prefer her over Trump or Biden. I think I prefer apporximately 400 million people over either of those two.


Oh dear  ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 14, 2024, 11:40:08 AM
New York Times Stunned After 11 Out of 13 Independent Focus Group Voters Choose Trump Over Biden
Red State ^ | 02/14/2024 | Mike Miller
Posted on 2/14/2024, 2:27:24 PM by SeekAndFind

Imagine you're a muckety-muck editor at the once-vaunted New York Times, and the following results of a spanking-new Times focus group show up on your computer screen.

Independent voters from around the country had scathing remarks to describe President Biden in a focus group published Tuesday, with most admitting they are leaning toward former President Trump in 2024 despite their own derisive assessments of him.

What would you think? That I could put in writing, I mean.

After the initial horror gave way to semi-rational thinking, I suppose I, as a Times muckety-muck, would wonder "What the hell happened?" Like, how were the questions worded, or how the focus group voters were selected, because surely— surely these results can't be right.

So the Times spoke at length with 13 undecided, independent voters about the two leading candidates and the issues most important to them. The voters, ranging from 22-64 years old, were most concerned about the state of the economy, with the majority citing the rising costs of groceries and their other bills. Of the 13, 12 said they would base their vote on the issue, with 11 saying they were leaning toward Trump in November.

"Oh, the humanity!" must think muckety-mucks.



It gets even worse. For the muckety-mucks, that is.

When asked what they thought about Biden, the voters were blunt as hell in their assessments of the besieged president. Here are several of their responses:

"He’s a little bit senile, and I do think if you can’t do the job, it’s time to step down."

"I think he’s unfit for the presidency. A president should be the commander in chief. And he does not appear to be a capable commander in chief."

"[He's a] puppet. That’s because I feel like he really tap-dances. I don’t know what he’s done. It just seems like he’s just throwing things out there to please almost anyone."

"[He's] disingenuous. Nothing that is said really connects with me. I don’t feel like I’m being told the truth. I don’t feel like I’m being told anything upfront. I was just so disappointed — with the ounce of hope I had left — when we just started pouring money into the Israel conflict."

Tough stuff for Joe, which is only going to get tougher as the groundswell continues to grow around the "sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with the poor memory."



Here are several responses from the voters when asked how they felt about Trump:

"Donald Trump did a better job. Joe Biden, I mean, I feel like I don’t have a president."

"Sure, [he] was divisive, and sure, it really wasn’t the most productive, but [he] really highlighted problems and the divisiveness that was already hidden inside of our country."

"To me, it doesn’t affect anything. His life, he puts it right out there. I’m sick of hearing it, but it’s him. So if I’m going to vote for him, that’s part of what I accept."

The last comment was key, which I'll hit in "The Bottom Line."

One voter expressed his opinion this way:

"Like no matter who gets voted into office, I think our options suck either way, and I don’t really see any progress."

When asked to describe their feelings about the upcoming election in one word, here were the responses:

"Lost"

"Disaster"

"Necessary"

"Stressed"

"Anxious"

"Are we allowed to curse, or no? Bullsh*t."

"Anxiety"

"Worried"

"Indifferent."

"Ugh"

"Abyss"

"Concerned"

"Disaster"

Pretty much sums it up, but here's the thing: In less than ten months, we must choose the 47th president of the United States — and it will be arguably the most important election choice in modern history, so let's not screw it up.

The Bottom Line
To be fair, several of the voters also had negative things to say about Trump that were largely centered on their perceptions of his personality, calling the former president "egotistical," a "narcissist" and "disastrous."

Then again, when I vote for president I'm not necessarily looking for a role model or even a man or woman with impeccable moral credentials. What I am looking for is the candidate that I believe will best deliver on the issues that are most important to me — from protecting the border and the security of this country to picking Supreme Court nominees who will adhere to the U.S. Constitution rather than try to legislate from the bench.

As the voter said, above:

"To me, it doesn’t affect anything. His life, he puts it right out there. I’m sick of hearing it, but it’s him. So if I’m going to vote for him, that’s part of what I accept."

Amen.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 14, 2024, 08:23:27 PM
Donald Trump hit out at Republican’s selection of Pilip, for the New York's 3rd congressional district special election. He called for “a real candidate” in the November general election when the seat will again come up for grabs.

“Republicans just don’t learn, but maybe she was still a Democrat?” Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform, called Mazi “a very foolish woman”, and complained that she had run “in a race where she didn’t endorse me and tried to ‘straddle the fence’, when she would have easily WON if she understood anything about MODERN DAY politics in America”.

seems to read that modern day republicans must endorse Trump or face destruction. Brutal if true
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 16, 2024, 11:16:58 AM
Joe Manchin announces he will not run for president
The centrist West Virginia had been mulling a campaign for the White House that would have shaken up the 2024 campaign.
Feb. 16, 2024
By Alex Tabet, Ali Vitali, Julie Tsirkin and Mike Memoli
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/joe-manchin-announce-will-not-run-president-rcna139120
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on February 16, 2024, 04:57:51 PM
Joe Manchin announces he will not run for president
The centrist West Virginia had been mulling a campaign for the White House that would have shaken up the 2024 campaign.
Feb. 16, 2024
By Alex Tabet, Ali Vitali, Julie Tsirkin and Mike Memoli
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/joe-manchin-announce-will-not-run-president-rcna139120
Terrible news. (heavy sarcasm)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 17, 2024, 12:32:21 AM
Terrible news. (heavy sarcasm)
We are all crushed.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 20, 2024, 02:06:32 PM
Rogan says Democratic Party is 'setting up Gavin Newsom' for 2024 presidential run amid Biden scandals
'Don’t you think that that’s a ruse, him running for president?' Joe Rogan asked
By Alexander Hall Fox News
Published February 20, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rogan-says-democratic-party-setting-gavin-newsom-2024-presidential-run-biden-scandals
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 20, 2024, 02:23:22 PM
Former Obama CIA Chief Michael Morell Donates to Nikki Haley
WENDELL HUSEBØ  20 Feb 2024

Michael Morell, the CIA director under former President Barack Obama, donated $1,000 to former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley’s presidential campaign in November, according to campaign disclosures.

Morell became an infamous political character after organizing a letter from 51 former spy chiefs that falsely alleged the New York Post’s reports on Hunter Biden’s “Laptop from Hell” appeared to be Russian disinformation, a House Judiciary Committee report found.

. . . .

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/02/20/former-obama-cia-chief-michael-morell-donates-to-nikki-haley
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on February 20, 2024, 02:53:17 PM
Former Obama CIA Chief Michael Morell Donates to Nikki Haley
WENDELL HUSEBØ  20 Feb 2024

Michael Morell, the CIA director under former President Barack Obama, donated $1,000 to former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley’s presidential campaign in November, according to campaign disclosures.

Morell became an infamous political character after organizing a letter from 51 former spy chiefs that falsely alleged the New York Post’s reports on Hunter Biden’s “Laptop from Hell” appeared to be Russian disinformation, a House Judiciary Committee report found.

. . . .

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/02/20/former-obama-cia-chief-michael-morell-donates-to-nikki-haley
The majority of her big donations came from Demturds.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on February 20, 2024, 03:10:16 PM
The majority of her big donations came from Demturds.

Maybe not. Corporate political donations from company PACs and business-related associations totaled almost $344 million in the 2022 midterm, according to OpenSecrets. That includes about $154 million, or nearly 45 percent to Democrats and $189 million, or about 55 percent to Republicans.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on February 20, 2024, 03:53:42 PM
Rogan says Democratic Party is 'setting up Gavin Newsom' for 2024 presidential run amid Biden scandals
'Don’t you think that that’s a ruse, him running for president?' Joe Rogan asked
By Alexander Hall Fox News
Published February 20, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rogan-says-democratic-party-setting-gavin-newsom-2024-presidential-run-biden-scandals
Newsom is trash, the rest of the country needs to talk to people that live under Newsoms communist rules before voting for this twatwaffle.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 20, 2024, 05:29:24 PM
Newsom is trash, the rest of the country needs to talk to people that live under Newsoms communist rules before voting for this twatwaffle.


Tax season in a blue state is misery.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 20, 2024, 05:43:29 PM
Newsom is trash, the rest of the country needs to talk to people that live under Newsoms communist rules before voting for this twatwaffle.

Yeah, but we elected Obama twice and Biden.   :-\
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 21, 2024, 07:19:50 AM
Scott, Vivek, DeSantis, Donalds, Gabbard, and Noem. 

Trump teases VP short list while insisting pick won’t steal his spotlight: ‘Absolutely no impact’
By Mabinty Quarshie
February 20, 2024
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/2865780/trump-teases-vp-shortlist-town-hall-south-carolina/?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 21, 2024, 08:59:41 AM
Newsom is trash, the rest of the country needs to talk to people that live under Newsoms communist rules before voting for this twatwaffle.

Joe is stepping out of his lane. He knows nothing about the subject. Newsome polls worse against Trump than does Biden.

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 21, 2024, 09:08:20 AM
IMO, Michelle’s odds are too low because the other two Newsome and Kamala are so bad that Michelle is getting a lot of long shot money by default.

I still don’t see how the Dems kick Kamala to the curb for another black woman without it being a very bad look.

It’s Trump’s  election to lose. I give the Dems credit for using Covid to keep Biden hidden in 2020 but that won’t work this time around.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 21, 2024, 09:09:18 AM
IMO, Michelle’s odds are too low because the other two Newsome and Kamala are so bad that Michelle is getting a lot of long shot money by default.

I still don’t see how the Dems kick Kamala to the curb for another black woman without it being a very bad look.

She is FFFFAATTT and lazy.  she has never run and is not running now.   
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 21, 2024, 09:11:00 AM
She is FFFFAATTT and lazy.  she has never run and is not running now.

Agree. I don’t see it.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on February 21, 2024, 09:30:09 AM
We need to have everyone stop spelling Newsom with an "e" at the end.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 21, 2024, 12:15:34 PM
We need to have everyone stop spelling Newsom with an "e" at the end.

That’s one of his problems. People can’t even spell his name.😁
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on February 21, 2024, 03:32:34 PM
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2024/02/18/us/18pol-swiper-trump-sneakers1-fljk/18pol-swiper-trump-sneakers1-fljk-facebookJumbo.jpg)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/18/donald-trump-new-trainers-sneaker-con-philadelphia/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/18/donald-trump-new-trainers-sneaker-con-philadelphia/)

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6347212574112 (https://www.foxnews.com/video/6347212574112)
Looks like some basketball stars shoes.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 21, 2024, 06:09:08 PM
Scott, Vivek, DeSantis, Donalds, Gabbard, and Noem. 

Trump teases VP short list while insisting pick won’t steal his spotlight: ‘Absolutely no impact’
By Mabinty Quarshie
February 20, 2024
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/2865780/trump-teases-vp-shortlist-town-hall-south-carolina/?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home


Tulsi would be good but I don’t think they’d get along. She’s too strong to stay silent while he ran his mouth. I’d like to see it though.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 22, 2024, 12:49:24 AM
Joe is stepping out of his lane. He knows nothing about the subject. Newsome polls worse against Trump than does Biden.
43% would actually for Harris? ???
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 22, 2024, 06:24:07 AM

Tulsi would be good but I don’t think they’d get along. She’s too strong to stay silent while he ran his mouth. I’d like to see it though.

She’s an interesting choice. It would be fun to see her rip Kamala a new one again in debates.

Vivek is interesting too. He’s a tech savy young guy. Could go over well with Silicon Valley.

Of course, Desantis would work as Trump’s successor in 2028.

Trump has good options.👍
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 22, 2024, 06:24:48 AM
43% would actually for Harris? ???

That jumped out at me as well. Hard to buy she does that well.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on February 22, 2024, 08:31:13 AM
That’s one of his problems. People can’t even spell his name.😁

It seems the only qualification he has is having a presidential shaped head.

Patrick Bet David asked Bill Maher what accomplishments he could run on, and Maher literally blanked it.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 22, 2024, 09:13:12 AM
It seems the only qualification he has is having a presidential shaped head.

Patrick Bet David asked Bill Maher what accomplishments he could run on, and Maher literally blanked it.

Dude runs a state which has the best natural resources of any in the country AND PEOPLE ARE LEAVING.

It’s an open and shut case for him to not be President.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on February 22, 2024, 09:26:23 AM
Dude runs a state which has the best natural resources of any in the country AND PEOPLE ARE LEAVING.

It’s an open and shut case for him to not be President.

Yes.

Two other things: like you said he has the best real estate in the country, which was also the best real estate for dealing with covid.  During that time, he had skate parks filled with sand and people arrested on beaches.  The exact opposite of what should have been done.  So during his biggest crisis, he failed miserably, in addition to going out during quarantine, getting caught, lying about it initially, then apologizing.  So, a leadership and integrity failure.

I never looked, but also believe he met his current wife while married, cheated on her, while the current wife was cheating as well.  Another integrity issue.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 22, 2024, 09:44:27 AM
Yes.

Two other things: like you said he has the best real estate in the country, which was also the best real estate for dealing with covid.  During that time, he had skate parks filled with sand and people arrested on beaches.  The exact opposite of what should have been done.  So during his biggest crisis, he failed miserably, in addition to going out during quarantine, getting caught, lying about it initially, then apologizing.  So, a leadership and integrity failure.

I never looked, but also believe he met his current wife while married, cheated on her, while the current wife was cheating as well.  Another integrity issue.

He is a typical liberal dirtbag and even worse, branch covidian nut.   
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 22, 2024, 11:30:41 AM
43% would actually for Harris? ???

Women vote screwing the country up once again.

Said it here within the last week or so - Harris IS a better candidate than Biden at this point. Like Obama you can't criticize the first woman.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on February 22, 2024, 03:35:15 PM
Donald 👊🏻
What MSM won’t show you The Khvnts 🤬🤬🤬

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on February 22, 2024, 04:46:58 PM
Donald 👊🏻
What MSM won’t show you The Khvnts 🤬🤬🤬



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Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: AbrahamG on February 22, 2024, 04:49:19 PM
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You're killing it, Prime. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on February 22, 2024, 08:24:27 PM
Dude runs a state which has the best natural resources of any in the country AND PEOPLE ARE LEAVING.

It’s an open and shut case for him to not be President.
At an alarming rate as well. With their businesses and their money.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 23, 2024, 12:41:39 AM
Women vote screwing the country up once again.

Said it here within the last week or so - Harris IS a better candidate than Biden at this point. Like Obama you can't criticize the first woman.
The 19th Amendment failed us all.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 23, 2024, 12:21:31 PM

Tulsi would be good but I don’t think they’d get along. She’s too strong to stay silent while he ran his mouth. I’d like to see it though.

Would definitely shake things up and she would destroy Kamala Harris in a debate.

Keep in mind though that despite all the coverage the VP selection gets, people typically vote the top of the ticket, so the VP selection doesn't really move the needle.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 23, 2024, 04:48:51 PM
This is weird.  Not sure why they even asked the question.  lol

Study shows women are more likely to vote for Trump during their 'fertile window' - but it's not because they have a crush on him
A study found a link between female fertility and voter preference
Women in their fertile window were slightly more inclined to vote for Trump
By EMILY JOSHU HEALTH REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED:  23 February 2024
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wellness-us/mind/article-13118021/study-women-likely-vote-trump-fertile-window.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 23, 2024, 09:29:05 PM
This is weird.  Not sure why they even asked the question.  lol

Study shows women are more likely to vote for Trump during their 'fertile window' - but it's not because they have a crush on him
A study found a link between female fertility and voter preference
Women in their fertile window were slightly more inclined to vote for Trump
By EMILY JOSHU HEALTH REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED:  23 February 2024
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wellness-us/mind/article-13118021/study-women-likely-vote-trump-fertile-window.html

They've seen Baron.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 24, 2024, 04:34:40 PM
Can’t believe she stayed in the race just to get embarrassed like this, proving once again the shamelessness of politicians:


Trump easily defeats Haley in South Carolina | The Hill

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4487266-donald-trump-wins-south-carolina-nikki-haley/

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 24, 2024, 04:36:42 PM
What is her option, now? Stay in the race and hope the rest of the country sees something the people who know her best didn’t?😂😂
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on February 24, 2024, 05:53:55 PM
What is her option, now? Stay in the race and hope the rest of the country sees something the people who know her best didn’t?😂😂

I believe that she and her backers are betting on Trump's legal battles doing some damage.

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on February 24, 2024, 06:41:30 PM
What is her option, now? Stay in the race and hope the rest of the country sees something the people who know her best didn’t?😂😂
Gotta keep collecting donors dollars and wasting their money on a lavish lifestyle while she can.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on February 24, 2024, 08:00:16 PM
Gotta keep collecting donors dollars and wasting their money on a lavish lifestyle while she can.

Yep.  She spend $16M in her home state compared to Trump's $1.3M.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 25, 2024, 01:01:38 AM
I believe that she and her backers are betting on Trump's legal battles doing some damage.
That has to be the plan. She is killing her future political ambitions though.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on February 25, 2024, 01:04:28 PM
Trump at CPAC

....
 “Your victory will be our ultimate vindication, your liberty will be our ultimate reward and the unprecedented success of the United States of America will be my ultimate and absolute revenge.”
......
His flight into  Iraq in darkness: “I sat with the pilots ... the best-looking human beings I’ve ever seen. Not my thing ... But they are handsome. Central casting. Better looking than Tom Cruise. And taller.”
.....

“Nobody can ramble like this,” he said, adding: “They’ll say: ‘He rambled, he’s cognitively impaired.’ Well, it’s really the opposite. It’s total genius – you know that.”
One day there will be a book written of all of these famous quotes for colleges to study. 8)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on February 25, 2024, 01:30:02 PM
Trump at CPAC

....
 “Your victory will be our ultimate vindication, your liberty will be our ultimate reward and the unprecedented success of the United States of America will be my ultimate and absolute revenge.”
......
His flight into  Iraq in darkness: “I sat with the pilots ... the best-looking human beings I’ve ever seen. Not my thing ... But they are handsome. Central casting. Better looking than Tom Cruise. And taller.”
.....

“Nobody can ramble like this,” he said, adding: “They’ll say: ‘He rambled, he’s cognitively impaired.’ Well, it’s really the opposite. It’s total genius – you know that.”

Joe Biden never rambles; he simply offers up a pithy, "...anyway."
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on February 25, 2024, 01:54:52 PM
One day there will be a book written of all of these famous quotes for colleges to study. 8)

they are probably already copyrighted by Trump Publishing Inc
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 26, 2024, 11:15:22 AM
CPAC straw poll results: Who should be Trump's VP pick?
The candidates who get traction with the conservative crowd have shown loyalty to Trump.
Alex Isenstadt
02/24/2024

The results of the CPAC straw poll are in.

Attendees were asked who they wanted Trump to pick as his VP, and the outcome was a first-place tie between South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem and biotech entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy, both of whom received 15 percent.

Next up was former Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard at 9 percent, and New York Rep. Elise Stefanik and South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott at 8 percent.

. . . .

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/02/24/south-carolina-gop-primary-2024/cpac-straw-poll-for-trumps-vp-pick-00143150
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 26, 2024, 11:48:09 AM
Noem works for me.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on February 26, 2024, 11:49:32 AM
Noem works for me.

You good with her as president?

I'd still see if he can go the Desantis route.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 26, 2024, 12:10:46 PM
You good with her as president?

I'd still see if he can go the Desantis route.

She was a Governor. They tend to do well as Presidents. Does Desantis even want the gig?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 26, 2024, 01:37:23 PM
Noem works for me.

You might get your wish. 

EXCLUSIVE: South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem, Rumored VP Contender, Met With Trump At Mar-a-Lago
HENRY RODGERS
CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT
February 26, 2024
https://dailycaller.com/2024/02/26/kristi-noem-donald-trump-meeting-mar-a-lago-vice-president/



Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 26, 2024, 01:39:07 PM
You good with her as president?

I'd still see if he can go the Desantis route.

DeSantis makes the most sense, but I'm not sure the egos will allow it. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 26, 2024, 01:39:33 PM
She was a Governor. They tend to do well as Presidents. Does Desantis even want the gig?

True.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on February 26, 2024, 02:39:27 PM
Noem works for me.
X2
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on February 26, 2024, 05:15:59 PM
they are probably already copyrighted by Trump Publishing Inc
Smart business move.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 26, 2024, 06:20:01 PM
Michelle Obama tops Kamala Harris, Hillary Clinton and Gavin Newsom as a replacement for Joe Biden, 81, if he drops out: New poll reveals who Democrats would want on the ticket and how likely they feel he WON'T run
Survey finds nearly half of voters believe Biden will be replaced on Dem ticket
Michelle Obama is top choice to replacement Biden, VP Harris comes in second
Speculation over Biden remaining on the ticket went into overdrive following the special counsel report
By SARAH EWALL-WICE, SENIOR U.S. POLITICAL REPORTER
PUBLISHED:  26 February 2024
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13128075/michelle-obama-tops-harris-clinton-newsom-biden-replacement.html?fbclid=IwAR3EB9bvJXvjihNHm7gXBbq23pnJxq6tljFDEkZFmI7K2PLscmQ1l2QgWTs
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 27, 2024, 06:31:01 PM
Trump wins Michigan. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-primary-elections/michigan-president-results
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 28, 2024, 12:42:33 PM
More Than 100K Voters Chose ‘Uncommitted’ over Joe Biden in Michigan Democrat Primary


https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/02/28/nolte-more-than-100k-voters-chose-uncommitted-over-joe-biden-in-michigan-democrat-primary/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 28, 2024, 12:44:11 PM
More Than 100K Voters Chose ‘Uncommitted’ over Joe Biden in Michigan Democrat Primary


https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/02/28/nolte-more-than-100k-voters-chose-uncommitted-over-joe-biden-in-michigan-democrat-primary/

gaza is the least of Bidens failures and disasters! 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on February 28, 2024, 01:50:58 PM
More Than 100K Voters Chose ‘Uncommitted’ over Joe Biden in Michigan Democrat Primary

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/02/28/nolte-more-than-100k-voters-chose-uncommitted-over-joe-biden-in-michigan-democrat-primary/

Michigan uncommitted Democratic voters:

2012 - 20,833
2016 - 21,601
2020 - 19,106
2024 - >100,000

https://theconversation.com/more-than-100k-michigan-voters-pick-uncommitted-over-biden-does-that-matter-for-november-224599

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2024/02/27/uncommitted-campaign-celebrates-democratic-primary-showing/72743731007/

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on February 28, 2024, 01:58:21 PM
More Than 100K Voters Chose ‘Uncommitted’ over Joe Biden in Michigan Democrat Primary


https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/02/28/nolte-more-than-100k-voters-chose-uncommitted-over-joe-biden-in-michigan-democrat-primary/

Yes but, 296,225 voters chose Haley over Trump, plus 33,533 voters chose uncommitted over Trump, DeSantis (who is not running) got 13,430 votes, Christi got 4,792 votes, Rammy got 3,717, Binkley netted 2,348 votes, and Hutchinson (also not running) 1,089 votes. Meaning Trump lost a grand total of 355,134 votes.

Also worth noting is that Trump netted 68.1% of the Republican vote while Biden got 81.1% of the Democratic vote. Only two Michigan delegates will be "uncommitted" at the Democratic National convention.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on February 28, 2024, 02:16:58 PM
Yes but, 296,225 voters chose Haley over Trump, plus 33,533 voters chose uncommitted over Trump, DeSantis (who is not running) got 13,430 votes, Christi got 4,792 votes, Rammy got 3,717, Binkley netted 2,348 votes, and Hutchinson (also not running) 1,089 votes. Meaning Trump lost a grand total of 355,134 votes. Yes but, 296,225 voters chose Haley over Trump, plus 33,533 voters chose uncommitted over Trump, DeSantis (who is not running) got 13,430 votes, Christi got 4,792 votes, Rammy got 3,717, Binkley netted 2,348 votes, and Hutchinson (also not running) 1,089 votes. Meaning Trump lost a grand total of 355,134 votes.

Also worth noting is that Trump netted 68.1% of the Republican vote while Biden got 81.1% of the Democratic vote. Only two Michigan delegates will be "uncommitted" at the Democratic National convention.
We all knew Michigan wasn't going to be a win. Demturd State!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on February 28, 2024, 02:25:50 PM
Yes but, 296,225 voters chose Haley over Trump, plus 33,533 voters chose uncommitted over Trump, DeSantis (who is not running) got 13,430 votes, Christi got 4,792 votes, Rammy got 3,717, Binkley netted 2,348 votes, and Hutchinson (also not running) 1,089 votes. Meaning Trump lost a grand total of 355,134 votes. Yes but, 296,225 voters chose Haley over Trump, plus 33,533 voters chose uncommitted over Trump, DeSantis (who is not running) got 13,430 votes, Christi got 4,792 votes, Rammy got 3,717, Binkley netted 2,348 votes, and Hutchinson (also not running) 1,089 votes. Meaning Trump lost a grand total of 355,134 votes.

Also worth noting is that Trump netted 68.1% of the Republican vote while Biden got 81.1% of the Democratic vote. Only two Michigan delegates will be "uncommitted" at the Democratic National convention.

Heard you the first time.    ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on February 28, 2024, 02:30:57 PM
Heard you the first time.    ;D

Sorry. Picked up the habit of repeating the same statements over and over from Donald Trump. At least mine is the truth... better than repeating lies. ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on February 28, 2024, 02:33:12 PM
Yes but, 296,225 voters chose Haley over Trump, plus 33,533 voters chose uncommitted over Trump, DeSantis (who is not running) got 13,430 votes, Christi got 4,792 votes, Rammy got 3,717, Binkley netted 2,348 votes, and Hutchinson (also not running) 1,089 votes. Meaning Trump lost a grand total of 355,134 votes. Yes but, 296,225 voters chose Haley over Trump, plus 33,533 voters chose uncommitted over Trump, DeSantis (who is not running) got 13,430 votes, Christi got 4,792 votes, Rammy got 3,717, Binkley netted 2,348 votes, and Hutchinson (also not running) 1,089 votes. Meaning Trump lost a grand total of 355,134 votes.

Also worth noting is that Trump netted 68.1% of the Republican vote while Biden got 81.1% of the Democratic vote. Only two Michigan delegates will be "uncommitted" at the Democratic National convention.


So 33,000 Republican's choose uncommitted over Trump
And over 3x as many Dummycraps 100,000+ choose uncommitted over
Pedo Joe ??

Is that correct Prime ? or have I mistakenly got that wrong as you
left that out of your analysis breakdown.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on February 28, 2024, 05:14:41 PM
Yes but, 296,225 voters chose Haley over Trump, plus 33,533 voters chose uncommitted over Trump, DeSantis (who is not running) got 13,430 votes, Christi got 4,792 votes, Rammy got 3,717, Binkley netted 2,348 votes, and Hutchinson (also not running) 1,089 votes. Meaning Trump lost a grand total of 355,134 votes.

Also worth noting is that Trump netted 68.1% of the Republican vote while Biden got 81.1% of the Democratic vote. Only two Michigan delegates will be "uncommitted" at the Democratic National convention.
Is this some sort of weird old man rationalization/deflection thing here? None of this babbling that you copy/pasted minimizes what was posted about peoples feelings on Joe Bitem.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 28, 2024, 05:24:35 PM
More Than 100K Voters Chose ‘Uncommitted’ over Joe Biden in Michigan Democrat Primary


https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/02/28/nolte-more-than-100k-voters-chose-uncommitted-over-joe-biden-in-michigan-democrat-primary/


It doesn’t matter. They’ll vote for Biden in the general election. They’re just trying to prove a point.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 28, 2024, 05:40:53 PM
Heard a quip about this today but did not yet verify...supposedly the only person who can carry over Biden's election funds to run without issue is Harris.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on February 28, 2024, 06:02:22 PM

So 33,000 Republican's choose uncommitted over Trump
And over 3x as many Dummycraps 100,000+ choose uncommitted over
Pedo Joe ??

Is that correct Prime ? or have I mistakenly got that wrong as you
left that out of your analysis breakdown.

You are correct I left out the total number of uncommitted votes on the Democratic side which was 100,000+ voters or better said, 100,000+ who voted against Biden. While 355,134 voted against Trump on the Republican side.

Consider this, it is likely most of the 100,00+ uncommitted voters will vote for Biden in the General, whereas it is not likely those who voted for candidates other than Trump will vote for him in the general. If Haley is not on the ballot in the general, many of those 355,134 folks will vote for Biden and not for Trump.

Too confusing for you? Not to worry. I am not a statistician nor a psychic. As is frequently the case in presidential elections, the outcomes are unpredictable. Speculation is a fun but meaningless game that people play, including me. I will not be betting on the winner in this election because I do not gamble.


And just for Chaos who has trouble determining the intent of my posts. This one is a combination of facts (the numbers at the time of the article when about 90% of the count was in), speculation both mine and others, and my opinion. Chew on that, Chaos.  ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on February 28, 2024, 06:09:52 PM

It doesn’t matter. They’ll vote for Biden in the general election. They’re just trying to prove a point.

They won't vote for Trump, but some may sit out the election.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 28, 2024, 06:41:36 PM
They won't vote for Trump, but some may sit out the election.

Correct.  I think the biggest problem Biden will have (other than the fact he is mentally incompetent and physically frail) is voter apathy.  A lot of people are going to stay home this time around.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on February 28, 2024, 06:47:08 PM
PAR Poll: Trump Leads Biden in Maine, Would Flip State
By Theodore Bunker  | 28 February 2024
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/poll-donald-trump-maine/2024/02/28/id/1155285/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on February 28, 2024, 09:05:13 PM
You are correct I left out the total number of uncommitted votes on the Democratic side which was 100,000+ voters or better said, 100,000+ who voted against Biden. While 355,134 voted against Trump on the Republican side.

Consider this, it is likely most of the 100,00+ uncommitted voters will vote for Biden in the General, whereas it is not likely those who voted for candidates other than Trump will vote for him in the general. If Haley is not on the ballot in the general, many of those 355,134 folks will vote for Biden and not for Trump.

Too confusing for you? Not to worry. I am not a statistician nor a psychic. As is frequently the case in presidential elections, the outcomes are unpredictable. Speculation is a fun but meaningless game that people play, including me. I will not be betting on the winner in this election because I do not gamble.


And just for Chaos who has trouble determining the intent of my posts. This one is a combination of facts (the numbers at the time of the article when about 90% of the count was in), speculation both mine and others, and my opinion. Chew on that, Chaos.  ;D

FFS a simple yes or no would've sufficed .

I didn't read beyond 'You are correct'  Thought I was  😊  👊🏻  👍🏻
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on February 29, 2024, 03:28:58 PM
Any body who claims Mr Trump is not clever should look at how consistently, effectively and patiently he used Mr McConnell (who in all probably thinks trump is coarse & stupid)


McConnell’s entire political life has been in pursuit of two aims: Placing conservative inFederal judicial positions and the perpetuation of the Republican party’s electoral power

Nothing else mattered  . Everything else— friends  foreign policy social, minimal government reach, economic gain That’s why McConnell backed  Trump and helped elect MAGA senators (most of whom despised him). He declined support Mr Trumps impeachment.

McConnell’s entire political life has been in pursuit of two aims: Placing conservative judges in Federal judicial positions and the perpetuation of the Republican party’s electoral power

Mr Trump understood this and has used McConnell so brilliantly that McConnell doesn't even know that he has been all the better as a Trump took than had he kissed the ring
Much better and more clever than Bidens use of Kuntmala to attempt to gain the votes of minorities and women, you think?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on February 29, 2024, 06:18:48 PM
FFS a simple yes or no would've sufficed .

I didn't read beyond 'You are correct'  Thought I was  😊  👊🏻  👍🏻

Don't like the response... don't read it. 'I really don't care do U?'
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on February 29, 2024, 10:27:43 PM
Don't like the response... don't read it. 'I really don't care do U?'


I didn't  😊

Just the 'You are Correct' bit 👍🏻 😊
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on March 04, 2024, 11:35:55 AM
What was it the Democrats kept parroting "this is dangerous to our democracy"?


Rep. Jamie Raskin “working on” bill responding to Trump ballot ruling

A leading House Democrat is preparing legislation in response to the Supreme Court's ruling on Monday that Colorado could not disqualify former President Trump from its state ballot, Axios has learned.

"Congress will have to try and act,"  Raskin, a former member of the Jan. 6 select committee, said he is already crafting the bill, telling Axios, "I'm working on it — today."

Raskin pointed to legislation he introduced with Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) in 2022 creating a pathway for the Justice Department to sue to keep candidates off the ballot under the 14th Amendment. "We are going to revise it in light of the Supreme Court's decision," Raskin said.

Raskin suggested the bill would be paired with a resolution declaring Jan. 6 an "insurrection" and that those involved "engaged in insurrection."

https://www.axios.com/2024/03/04/jamie-raskin-trump-ballot-ruling-supreme-court
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 04, 2024, 11:55:33 AM
They are communists through and through. 


What was it the Democrats kept parroting "this is dangerous to our democracy"?


Rep. Jamie Raskin “working on” bill responding to Trump ballot ruling

A leading House Democrat is preparing legislation in response to the Supreme Court's ruling on Monday that Colorado could not disqualify former President Trump from its state ballot, Axios has learned.

"Congress will have to try and act,"  Raskin, a former member of the Jan. 6 select committee, said he is already crafting the bill, telling Axios, "I'm working on it — today."

Raskin pointed to legislation he introduced with Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) in 2022 creating a pathway for the Justice Department to sue to keep candidates off the ballot under the 14th Amendment. "We are going to revise it in light of the Supreme Court's decision," Raskin said.

Raskin suggested the bill would be paired with a resolution declaring Jan. 6 an "insurrection" and that those involved "engaged in insurrection."

https://www.axios.com/2024/03/04/jamie-raskin-trump-ballot-ruling-supreme-court
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 04, 2024, 12:48:15 PM
What was it the Democrats kept parroting "this is dangerous to our democracy"?


Rep. Jamie Raskin “working on” bill responding to Trump ballot ruling

A leading House Democrat is preparing legislation in response to the Supreme Court's ruling on Monday that Colorado could not disqualify former President Trump from its state ballot, Axios has learned.

"Congress will have to try and act,"  Raskin, a former member of the Jan. 6 select committee, said he is already crafting the bill, telling Axios, "I'm working on it — today."

Raskin pointed to legislation he introduced with Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) in 2022 creating a pathway for the Justice Department to sue to keep candidates off the ballot under the 14th Amendment. "We are going to revise it in light of the Supreme Court's decision," Raskin said.

Raskin suggested the bill would be paired with a resolution declaring Jan. 6 an "insurrection" and that those involved "engaged in insurrection."

https://www.axios.com/2024/03/04/jamie-raskin-trump-ballot-ruling-supreme-court

So they can just declare an event an insurrection and label someone an insurrectionist without a criminal charge, trial, and conviction.  These people are crazy.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 04, 2024, 12:48:47 PM
Trump wins caucuses in Missouri and Idaho and sweeps Michigan GOP convention
MARCH 3, 2024
By The Associated Press
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/03/1235588882/trump-wins-caucuses-in-missouri-and-idaho-and-sweeps-michigan-gop-convention
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on March 04, 2024, 12:52:13 PM
So they can just declare an event an insurrection and label someone an insurrectionist without a criminal charge, trial, and conviction.  These people are crazy.

They don't consider that if (big if) such ridiculous laws pass and are enforced, the other side can use them too when they are in power, at which point Raskin and his ilk will be crying once again about "fascism" and how "this is dangerous to our democracy".
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 04, 2024, 12:53:09 PM
They don't consider that if (big if) such ridiculous laws pass and are enforced, the other side can use them too when they are in power, at which point Raskin and his ilk will be crying once again about "fascism" and how "this is dangerous to our democracy".

Exactly.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 04, 2024, 01:39:18 PM
 :o

Ex-MLB star in statistical tie with Schiff in California Senate race, says voters are 'mad' at Democrats
Steve Garvey believes California voters are fed up with liberal policies on crime, border, homelessness
Bailee Hill
Published March 4, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/media/ex-mlb-star-statistical-tie-schiff-california-senate-race-says-voters-mad-democrats
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 04, 2024, 02:15:30 PM
:o

Ex-MLB star in statistical tie with Schiff in California Senate race, says voters are 'mad' at Democrats
Steve Garvey believes California voters are fed up with liberal policies on crime, border, homelessness
Bailee Hill
Published March 4, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/media/ex-mlb-star-statistical-tie-schiff-california-senate-race-says-voters-mad-democrats

Had good forearms back in the day [no homo].
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 04, 2024, 02:33:30 PM
Had good forearms back in the day [no homo].

Yep.  I remember.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 04, 2024, 04:33:01 PM

I didn't  😊

Just the 'You are Correct' bit 👍🏻 😊

Smart move, you should only read what gels with your foregone conclusions. This way no matter how off base you are, you will feel good about yourself.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on March 04, 2024, 06:40:29 PM
Smart move, you should only read what gels with your foregone conclusions. This way no matter how off base you are, you will feel good about yourself.

I was correct 👍🏻👊🏻
And you had to admit it 😊
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 04, 2024, 06:44:35 PM
Smart move, you should only read what gels with your foregone conclusions. This way no matter how off base you are, you will feel good about yourself.

You are describing yourself. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on March 04, 2024, 06:49:12 PM
You are describing yourself.


Ha ha ha
He is - Only the irony of it will go straight over his head.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 04, 2024, 06:52:23 PM
It is wonderful that the years-long attempt to pander to Hispanic voters by allowing millions of illegals to pour across the border and give them many of the same rights as Americans citizens is completely blowing up in their faces. 

Trump leads Biden among Hispanics, registered voters overall: poll
46% of Hispanics said they would vote for Trump, while 40% said they would support Biden
By Kyle Morris Fox News
Published March 2, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-leads-biden-among-hispanics-registered-voters-overall-poll
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 04, 2024, 06:54:35 PM
Trump leading Biden in 7 swing states: Survey
Lauren Sforza
February 29, 2024
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-leading-biden-seven-swing-124702219.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 04, 2024, 07:09:19 PM
You are describing yourself.

You can make this false statement a thousand times and you will still be wrong.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 04, 2024, 07:11:22 PM
You can make this false statement a thousand times and you will still be wrong.

It's an obvious conclusion reached by reading your posts. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on March 04, 2024, 07:51:26 PM
What was it the Democrats kept parroting "this is dangerous to our democracy"?


Rep. Jamie Raskin “working on” bill responding to Trump ballot ruling

A leading House Democrat is preparing legislation in response to the Supreme Court's ruling on Monday that Colorado could not disqualify former President Trump from its state ballot, Axios has learned.

"Congress will have to try and act,"  Raskin, a former member of the Jan. 6 select committee, said he is already crafting the bill, telling Axios, "I'm working on it — today."

Raskin pointed to legislation he introduced with Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) in 2022 creating a pathway for the Justice Department to sue to keep candidates off the ballot under the 14th Amendment. "We are going to revise it in light of the Supreme Court's decision," Raskin said.

Raskin suggested the bill would be paired with a resolution declaring Jan. 6 an "insurrection" and that those involved "engaged in insurrection."

https://www.axios.com/2024/03/04/jamie-raskin-trump-ballot-ruling-supreme-court

Haven't seen much of Debbie Many-Last-Names lately.

(https://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/49/40/2101341892-tumblr_mfrxz8PxqV1rxhuq8o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 04, 2024, 11:37:31 PM
It's an obvious conclusion reached by reading your posts.

Or so you think. But you are obviously wrong. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 05, 2024, 11:40:49 AM
Independent Sen. Kyrsten Sinema will not run for re-election in Arizona
The Democrat-turned-independent is retiring from the Senate after one term.
March 5, 2024
By Alexandra Marquez and Sahil Kapur
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/independent-sen-kyrsten-sinema-will-not-run-re-election-arizona-rcna124499
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 05, 2024, 01:24:02 PM
Michelle Obama's office says the former first lady 'will not be running for president' in 2024
Democrats and Republicans have mused about a Michelle Obama candidacy, albeit for different reasons.
March 5, 2024
By Mike Memoli
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/michelle-obama-former-first-lady-not-running-president-2024-rcna141767
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on March 05, 2024, 02:15:18 PM
It is wonderful that the years-long attempt to pander to Hispanic voters by allowing millions of illegals to pour across the border and give them many of the same rights as Americans citizens is completely blowing up in their faces. 

Trump leads Biden among Hispanics, registered voters overall: poll
46% of Hispanics said they would vote for Trump, while 40% said they would support Biden
By Kyle Morris Fox News
Published March 2, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-leads-biden-among-hispanics-registered-voters-overall-poll

That's about a 23-point swing since 2020. :o If this holds until election day, I don't see how Biden can win.  Time to saddle up a new horse.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExcmR1MHFpNXlucmY2ZnllYXZtN2xpMXVtaHVxYTFxcm9vcjVwbzVueCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/CktshF8tF2nf9kXExx/giphy.gif)

https://www.as-coa.org/articles/chart-how-us-latinos-voted-2020-presidential-election

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 05, 2024, 02:18:29 PM
That's about a 23-point swing since 2020. :o If this holds until election day, I don't see how Biden can win.  Time to saddle up a new horse.

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https://www.as-coa.org/articles/chart-how-us-latinos-voted-2020-presidential-election

Yep.  Monumental shift.  And devastating for Biden.

Given how crazy the political climate is, the lawfare being waged against Trump, and Biden's mental/physical condition, I have no idea what will happen in November.  But if Trump wins after everything they have thrown at him since 2015, it will be an even greater political story than his win in 2016. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on March 05, 2024, 02:49:17 PM
It is wonderful that the years-long attempt to pander to Hispanic voters by allowing millions of illegals to pour across the border and give them many of the same rights as Americans citizens is completely blowing up in their faces. 

Trump leads Biden among Hispanics, registered voters overall: poll
46% of Hispanics said they would vote for Trump, while 40% said they would support Biden
By Kyle Morris Fox News
Published March 2, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-leads-biden-among-hispanics-registered-voters-overall-poll

Don't worry, the Democrats will surely win the Hispanic vote by having some non-Latino call them "Latinx" and then scold them for not accepting it.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on March 05, 2024, 03:33:18 PM
Yep.  Monumental shift.  And devastating for Biden.

Given how crazy the political climate is, the lawfare being waged against Trump, and Biden's mental/physical condition, I have no idea what will happen in November.  But if Trump wins after everything they have thrown at him since 2015, it will be an even greater political story than his win in 2016.

Moar!  Among black registered voters last week:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/03/05/us/elections/times-siena-poll-registered-voter-crosstabs.html

(Includes leaners) If the 2024 presidential election were held today, who would you vote for if the candidates were:

Joe Biden, the Democrat - 66%

Donald Trump, the Republican - 23%

(The last Republican to get over 20% of the black vote was Nixon in 1960 - 32%.)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 06, 2024, 01:02:12 AM
Moar!  Among black registered voters last week:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/03/05/us/elections/times-siena-poll-registered-voter-crosstabs.html

(Includes leaners) If the 2024 presidential election were held today, who would you vote for if the candidates were:

Joe Biden, the Democrat - 66%

Donald Trump, the Republican - 23%

(The last Republican to get over 20% of the black vote was Nixon in 1960 - 32%.)
Charles Barkley is going to beat up those blacks.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 06, 2024, 02:08:06 AM
Yep.  Monumental shift.  And devastating for Biden.

Given how crazy the political climate is, the lawfare being waged against Trump, and Biden's mental/physical condition, I have no idea what will happen in November.  But if Trump wins after everything they have thrown at him since 2015, it will be an even greater political story than his win in 2016.

And 'they' are not done throwing.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on March 06, 2024, 09:35:16 AM
Trump WINNING!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 06, 2024, 03:36:58 PM
And 'they' are not done throwing.

Oh that's true.  The fascists will continue to try and prevent the American people from having the opportunity to vote for Trump, while Trump's chief political opponent tries to imprison him for life. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 06, 2024, 03:40:23 PM
Don't worry, the Democrats will surely win the Hispanic vote by having some non-Latino call them "Latinx" and then scold them for not accepting it.

Hispanics have rejected that Latinx crap.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on March 06, 2024, 03:52:02 PM
Oh that's true.  The fascists will continue to try and prevent the American people from having the opportunity to vote for Trump, while Trump's chief political opponent tries to imprison him for life.
If these political tactics were being used in another country, we would be rallying troops to free them from the oppression!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 06, 2024, 08:42:48 PM
If these political tactics were being used in another country, we would be rallying troops to free them from the oppression!

Right?  There would be an actual insurrection. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on March 06, 2024, 08:57:04 PM
If these political tactics were being used in another country, we would be rallying troops to free them from the oppression!

Very true - yet the Libturds think its fine & act like there's nothing remotely dodgy going on.
Yet soon call out other countries politicians for the exact same stuff.
They're Traitors & Hypocrites.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 06, 2024, 08:58:22 PM
Can we all agree that it is a sad commentary on this country that the choice we have for President is Biden or Trump? Can we at least find common ground there?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on March 06, 2024, 09:06:48 PM
Can we all agree that it is a sad commentary on this country that the choice we have for President is Biden or Trump? Can we at least find common ground there?

While Donald isn't perfect he can walk, talk, & think for himself unlike Biden
What is Sad is the Democratic party don't have anyone better than Biden !!

It's a farce seeing him drugged up zombified unblinking with dead shark eyes
Trying to say anything remotely coherent.

That should be the common ground.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 06, 2024, 09:11:23 PM
While Donald isn't perfect he can walk, talk, & think for himself unlike Biden
What is Sad is the Democratic party don't have anyone better than Biden !!

It's a farce seeing him drugged up zombified unblinking with dead shark eyes
Trying to say anything remotely coherent.

That should be the common ground.

I guess we can't. For every gaff posted about Biden, there are gaffs about Trump. Trump was impeached 2 times, Biden zero. How many indictments for Trump vs Biden? Has Biden been found liable in a civil trial for sexual misconduct? No... So maybe walking and talking are overrated. In my opinon both are sad choices. If anyone is happy Trump is the Republican  candidate I question their critical thinking. Same for Biden
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on March 06, 2024, 09:15:51 PM
I guess we can't. For every gaff posted about Biden, there are gaffs about Trump. Trump was impeached 2 times, Biden zero. How many indictments for Trump vs Biden? Has Biden been found liable in a civil trial for sexual misconduct? No... So maybe walking and talking are overrated. In my opinon both are sad choices. If anyone is happy Trump is the Republican  candidate I question their critical thinking. Same for Biden

You're dodging the point of Biden's very obvious mental decline.
He very clearly cannot be left unaided.

Have you really not seen how many other countries media openly mock his mental state.
And the best you can do is to try to muddy the water with that stuff about Trump .  ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 06, 2024, 09:17:50 PM
I guess we can't. For every gaff posted about Biden, there are gaffs about Trump. Trump was impeached 2 times, Biden zero. How many indictments for Trump vs Biden? Has Biden been found liable in a civil trial for sexual misconduct? No... So maybe walking and talking are overrated. In my opinon both are sad choices. If anyone is happy Trump is the Republican  candidate I question their critical thinking. Same for Biden


Talk yourself through it. Deeps breaths. Trump is going to win. That's in the plans.

Biden was a corrupt imbecile that became a joke vegetable in front of the whole world.

One thing to have voted against Trump 4 years ago, but to defend a guy that diminished as somehow competent and equal is shameful.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 06, 2024, 11:15:50 PM

Talk yourself through it. Deeps breaths. Trump is going to win. That's in the plans.

Biden was a corrupt imbecile that became a joke vegetable in front of the whole world.

One thing to have voted against Trump 4 years ago, but to defend a guy that diminished as somehow competent and equal is shameful.

You both somehow are missing the point...
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on March 07, 2024, 04:08:30 AM
You both somehow are missing the point...


NO I believe it's you missing the point
You're not comparing like for like, You're just slagging off Donald
because you dislike him.
Biden isn't with it he's mind has left him - you're not comparing
cognitive ability.

Comparing personal dislike with a man with dementia is not the same.
Stop with the Touchy / feely crap about Donald, you're a man for FFS.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 07, 2024, 06:31:00 AM

NO I believe it's you missing the point
You're not comparing like for like, You're just slagging off Donald
because you dislike him.
Biden isn't with it he's mind has left him - you're not comparing
cognitive ability.

Comparing personal dislike with a man with dementia is not the same.
Stop with the Touchy / feely crap about Donald, you're a man for FFS.

Like I said, this is why I don’t bother with him. It’s ridiculous to compare Biden’s mental state to Trump’s.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 07, 2024, 10:39:53 AM
Like I said, this is why I don’t bother with him. It’s ridiculous to compare Biden’s mental state to Trump’s.

He lost me when he wished for the death of Republicans who didn't wear masks during Covid.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 07, 2024, 10:41:32 AM
I've read in a couple places people saying there are going to be one or two intermissions during the State of the Union tonight?  Cannot confirm if serious.  But nothing surprises me anymore.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 07, 2024, 10:45:26 AM
I've read in a couple places people saying there are going to be one or two intermissions during the State of the Union tonight?  Cannot confirm if serious.  But nothing surprises me anymore.

There is not enough money on the planet to get me to stay awake for that nonsense.   I'm going to bed as usual and getting up to train.   Far better use of my time.   LGB!!!   FUJB!!! 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on March 07, 2024, 10:45:56 AM
I've read in a couple places people saying there are going to be one or two intermissions during the State of the Union tonight?  Cannot confirm if serious.  But nothing surprises me anymore.

Jamaal Bowman stands ready to help.

(https://thenationaldesk.com/resources/media2/16x9/full/1015/center/80/93457e81-0964-4197-9b5b-35de0cde4a8c-large16x9_tightBowmanfirealarm.PNG)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 07, 2024, 10:47:15 AM
Jamaal Bowman stands ready to help.

(https://thenationaldesk.com/resources/media2/16x9/full/1015/center/80/93457e81-0964-4197-9b5b-35de0cde4a8c-large16x9_tightBowmanfirealarm.PNG)

lol   ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 07, 2024, 10:47:52 AM
Democrats ready to hit panic button in Trump-Biden race
Alexander Bolton
6 March 2024
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/democrats-ready-hit-panic-button-110000124.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9jaXRpemVuZnJlZXByZXNzLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABPuYOtAZ9aRhM_ahiEp8ffXCtcGJeKytmBQCwxCdCx9bu3h1igBuHYN7WmaIMuqMiBQtbykbrhHaJ0Rg6799IA1WFr7li12viyxmU08N7CHVRv__6uZ07KWM4S70ekACmKlWWVsKXsoOa48iupj9j3FE9-oRlaEJHGytbMUGyWY
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on March 07, 2024, 10:52:15 AM
He lost me when he wished for the death of Republicans who didn't wear masks during Covid.

Damn - Did he really say that ?
I missed that post, Well i'm unvaxed 7 5x un-boosted + never wore
a ridiculous face nappy  ::) Had those Vaccinated & nappy wearing
Idiots been around in 1940s Germany we know they'd of followed
the orders to the letter - let them try to deny it.



Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 07, 2024, 12:05:14 PM
Damn - Did he really say that ?
I missed that post, Well i'm unvaxed 7 5x un-boosted + never wore
a ridiculous face nappy  ::) Had those Vaccinated & nappy wearing
Idiots been around in 1940s Germany we know they'd of followed
the orders to the letter - let them try to deny it.

He believed everything the MSM peddled and as usual was wrong.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on March 07, 2024, 12:20:35 PM
I've read in a couple places people saying there are going to be one or two intermissions during the State of the Union tonight?  Cannot confirm if serious.  But nothing surprises me anymore.

I'm hoping that's a rumor.  The optics of Biden leaving "to catch his breath" would be awful - not to mention the two trips to the House lectern, risking a fall.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 07, 2024, 12:51:18 PM
I'm hoping that's a rumor.  The optics of Biden leaving "to catch his breath" would be awful - not to mention the two trips to the House lectern, risking a fall.

Or maybe to the bathroom. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Gym Rat on March 07, 2024, 12:56:47 PM
...
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 07, 2024, 03:00:57 PM
There’s really no reason for him to even be there. They could just show the teleprompter and let everybody read the speech.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 07, 2024, 03:47:38 PM
The 2024 general election is shaping up to be a do over of the 2020 general election. There are two less than optimal choices of who to vote for.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 07, 2024, 04:33:00 PM
The 2024 general election is shaping up to be a do over of the 2020 general election. There are two less than optimal choices of who to vote for.

False.   Biden has a record now that is disastrous compared to Trump.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 07, 2024, 04:59:21 PM
Damn - Did he really say that ?
I missed that post, Well i'm unvaxed 7 5x un-boosted + never wore
a ridiculous face nappy  ::) Had those Vaccinated & nappy wearing
Idiots been around in 1940s Germany we know they'd of followed
the orders to the letter - let them try to deny it.

Yep.  Sick mofo.

I live in Florida, I'm not a fan of Ron. Having said that... I have evolved in my position on Covid. Initially I was all about social distancing, Masks, limiting exposure. But living in Florida and being in a tourist location I have seen first hand how government "rules" aren't worth the paper they are written on and people are going to do pretty much what they want. Desantos was one of the firsts to open up, and during the peak of the pandemic I've walked past bars that were packed with people acting like Covid didn't exist. At first it bothered me greatly because I keep up with the Covid data and know when Florida is spiking and how dangerous it is. But after months of seeing people from out of state coming here because they know they can act like Covid doesn't exist and our government goes along with it I adopted the "Screw the ignorant jerks, I'll just fend for myself" attitude. It has been a great relief. I can now walk past overfilled bars knowing people in there will likely either die, or transmit the disease to elderly loved ones upon their return to states that take it seriously and they will die and sleep like a baby knowing they had access to all the information I had access to and chose to ignore it. In the end it will likely mean less Republican voters which can't be a bad thing. Maybe God has a hand in this.. who knows..
 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 07, 2024, 05:01:03 PM
False.   Biden has a record now that is disastrous compared to Trump.

Yeah.  Biden has a record of demonstrable failure.  Trump has a record of success.  Plus Biden is clearly mentally and physically incompetent.  It's a no brainer.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 07, 2024, 05:01:50 PM
False.   Biden has a record now that is disastrous compared to Trump.

Biden was a pretty strong betting favorite in 2020. This time around, he’s a weak second choice. Favorites rarely lose Presidential elections. Trump in 2016 was one of 4 underdogs to win.

Yeah, you can argue that Biden might turn it around, but how? As said, he can barely go to the bathroom by himself.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 07, 2024, 05:02:49 PM
Word of the day:  nootropic.  "Drug used to enhance memory or other cognitive functions."
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 07, 2024, 05:04:54 PM
False.   Biden has a record now that is disastrous compared to Trump.

Details please.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 07, 2024, 05:10:28 PM
This is before the State of the Union address.


(https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/NYT-Siena-Poll-2024-03-02.jpg?itok=LCfmy-lF)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 07, 2024, 05:11:41 PM
I take it you 'Trumpettes' are gearing up with a rationale for a Trump election success. What will you do if this does not happen? Will it be four more years of you all whining about a 'stolen' election?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 07, 2024, 05:12:17 PM
Biden was a pretty strong betting favorite in 2020. This time around, he’s a weak second choice. Favorites rarely lose Presidential elections. Trump in 2016 was one of 4 underdogs to win.

Yeah, you can argue that Biden might turn it around, but how? As said, he can barely go to the bathroom by himself.

He goes to the bathroom fine. It's while his pants are still on, but ... fine.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on March 07, 2024, 05:43:15 PM
Yep.  Sick mofo.
 

Wow !! 

Really - FFS AG  I'm staggered at reading this !!

Well how did it turn out ?
Are you eating you're own words now that the truth about the Fake scamdemic & the poison vaccine
Is coming out.

Own it you were duped - you & us now know what you'd of been doing in 1940s Germany
Having listened to & taken in every last bit of propaganda.  🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Hope you're disgusted with yourself- you should be.

Never believe Governments & you did.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 07, 2024, 06:26:07 PM
He barely has the strength to salute.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on March 07, 2024, 08:19:49 PM
Can we all agree that it is a sad commentary on this country that the choice we have for President is Biden or Trump? Can we at least find common ground there?
Absolutely. I've said it before, there is a minimum age limit, there should be a maximum age limit as well.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 07, 2024, 08:28:08 PM

NO I believe it's you missing the point
You're not comparing like for like, You're just slagging off Donald
because you dislike him.
Biden isn't with it he's mind has left him - you're not comparing
cognitive ability.

Comparing personal dislike with a man with dementia is not the same.
Stop with the Touchy / feely crap about Donald, you're a man for FFS.

My point.... It's a sad commentary that America's choice in Presidents comes down to Biden or Trump.

You go into how bad Biden is compared to Trump. Even if we all agreed with you that Biden is worse than Trump.. My point still remains, it's a sad commentary that we have to pick between the two for President.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 08, 2024, 01:12:07 AM
The media is now admitting Biden is too old BUT saying that Trump is also too old. They have been pushing this narrative for awhile now. and showing old Biden and Trump are over and over.

My prediction: Biden drops out of the race and Newsome takes his place. Newsome is young so the media can still focus on Trump's age having been building that narrative for months.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 08, 2024, 01:40:19 AM
The media is now admitting Biden is too old BUT saying that Trump is also too old. They have been pushing this narrative for awhile now. and showing old Biden and Trump are over and over.

My prediction: Biden drops out of the race and Newsome takes his place. Newsome is young so the media can still focus on Trump's age having been building that narrative for months.

It is the truth that Trump and Biden are both old men... too old to hold the office of President. I have commented on this multiple times on Getbig. Trump will be 78 years old next June and Biden will be 82 years old in November. Trump is only 3 years and 5 months younger than Biden.

Biden will not drop out of the race unless a very serious health issue forces him to do that. The same is true for Trump. Biden does not have the stress of the plethora of legal issues that Trump does, and stress is a killer.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 08, 2024, 01:42:53 AM
It is the truth that Trump and Biden are both old men... too old to hold the office of President. I have commented on this multiple times on Getbig. Trump will be 78 years old next June and Biden will be 82 years old in November. Trump is only 3 years and 5 months younger than Biden.

Biden will not drop out of the race unless a very serious health issue forces him to do that. The same is true for Trump. Biden does not have the stress of the plethora of legal issues that Trump does, and stress is a killer.
Just watch and see.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 08, 2024, 01:58:39 AM
Just watch and see.

See what? Are either of them magically going to find their Shangri-la or drink from the Fountain of Youth in St. Augustine, FL?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 08, 2024, 05:06:01 AM
I watched an angry old man yelling last night. Apparently he’s the President.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on March 08, 2024, 05:49:54 AM
I watched an angry old man yelling last night. Apparently he’s the President to be.
(http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150827102252-donald-trump-july-10-2015-full-169.jpg)
(https://theunitedstatesblues.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/donald-trump-screaming-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 08, 2024, 06:07:52 AM
(http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150827102252-donald-trump-july-10-2015-full-169.jpg)
(https://theunitedstatesblues.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/donald-trump-screaming-1.jpg)

🚨🚨TDS Alert 🚨 🚨
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on March 08, 2024, 08:28:49 AM
🚨🚨TDS Alert 🚨 🚨
absolutely  - the photos show Mr Trump has many of the symptoms
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 08, 2024, 09:17:20 AM
absolutely  - the photos show Mr Trump has many of the symptoms

Trump likes to throw out zingers but he doesn’t come across “Angry Old Man” as does Biden.

Problems with Biden are that he has no charisma, thinks he’s funnier than he is, and is a bad actor so when he starts to act passionate, it comes across as very fake.

You can see why he failed so often running for President, and the time he won was as a result of being kept hidden.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 08, 2024, 11:26:49 AM
Trump likes to throw out zingers but he doesn’t come across “Angry Old Man” as does Biden.

Problems with Biden are that he has no charisma, thinks he’s funnier than he is, and is a bad actor so when he starts to act passionate, it comes across as very fake.

You can see why he failed so often running for President, and the time he won was as a result of being kept hidden.


He's still banging his wife and has kids that are winners at life, while Biden has millions from China and a legacy of sleaze..
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 08, 2024, 11:56:57 AM
(http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150827102252-donald-trump-july-10-2015-full-169.jpg)
(https://theunitedstatesblues.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/donald-trump-screaming-1.jpg)

Context?  Was he actually angry or did you 9 (or someone else) snip this to make him appear angry?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 08, 2024, 12:00:28 PM
Thankfully only saw about half of the "get off my lawn!" speech.  Sounded like an angry old man, repeatedly yelling.  The most partisan State of the Union speech I've ever heard. 

Didn't watch the Republican response.






Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on March 08, 2024, 12:09:39 PM
Thankfully only saw about half of the "get off my lawn!" speech.  Sounded like an angry old man, repeatedly yelling.  The most partisan State of the Union speech I've ever heard. 

Didn't watch the Republican response.






Couldn't stand the way she performed for more than 10 seconds and turned it off. Plus, she performed from her kitchen? Biden campaigned from his basement in 2020.
The GOP probably thought she'd win over the women voters.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 08, 2024, 12:47:36 PM
Couldn't stand the way she performed for more than 10 seconds and turned it off. Plus, she performed from her kitchen? Biden campaigned from his basement in 2020.
The GOP probably thought she'd win over the women voters.

Both sides are always pandering.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 08, 2024, 01:07:51 PM
Couldn't stand the way she performed for more than 10 seconds and turned it off. Plus, she performed from her kitchen? Biden campaigned from his basement in 2020.
The GOP probably thought she'd win over the women voters.

One of the whiniest voices I’ve ever heard. After a few seconds, I’m thinking “Please God make it stop!”
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 08, 2024, 01:12:01 PM
Thankfully only saw about half of the "get off my lawn!" speech.  Sounded like an angry old man, repeatedly yelling.  The most partisan State of the Union speech I've ever heard. 

Didn't watch the Republican response.






It was a stump speech disguised as a SOTU. Starting off with Ukraine, really? Is that the number 1 issue, right now?

His people probably told him to sound forceful to allay fears about his age but as usual he effed it up and came across angry. So, the question becomes whether the country wants this mean old man around for another 4.

If everything is as great as he says, why is he so pissed off?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 08, 2024, 01:38:12 PM
It was a stump speech disguised as a SOTU. Starting off with Ukraine, really? Is that the number 1 issue, right now?

His people probably told him to sound forceful to allay fears about his age but as usual he effed it up and came across angry. So, the question becomes whether the country wants this mean old man around for another 4.

If everything is as great as he says, why is he so pissed off?

I agree.  Terrible content.  Terrible delivery. 

How about this:

"Biden offered a faster, feistier delivery of the speech at times tonight, often punctuated by exclamation marks. In fact, there were 80 exclamation points in the draft of his remarks that the White House released tonight. Last year, there were zero."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/live-blog/live-updates-state-union-biden-rcna140769
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 08, 2024, 02:34:59 PM
I agree.  Terrible content.  Terrible delivery. 

How about this:

"Biden offered a faster, feistier delivery of the speech at times tonight, often punctuated by exclamation marks. In fact, there were 80 exclamation points in the draft of his remarks that the White House released tonight. Last year, there were zero."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/live-blog/live-updates-state-union-biden-rcna140769

It’s what I would expect from DNC shills. He was talking too fast and kept making mistakes and slurring his words.

Could you imagine if Trump mistook a girl who was killed by an  illegal for the USC football coach?

When he got heckled by the Goldstar father, he said he passed the American freedom act which was rejected by all Americans. Of course, he meant to say Republicans.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on March 08, 2024, 03:56:50 PM
Thankfully only saw about half of the "get off my lawn!" speech.  Sounded like an angry old man, repeatedly yelling.  The most partisan State of the Union speech I've ever heard. 

Didn't watch the Republican response.






Biden was a high as a fracking kite.  Would love to know his cocktail.

When Harris claps while standing she reminds of the Roxbury Boys from SNL.

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb30k0VvF31qg385jo1_400.gif)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 13, 2024, 03:52:05 PM
I'm not confident in California voters, but I really hope they get this right and keep that dishonest hack Schiff out of the Senate.

Former MLB slugger Steve Garvey edges ahead of Adam Schiff in California US Senate primary
As of Wednesday morning, Garvey led Schiff by an incredibly slim margin of just 4,801 votes
By Stepheny Price Fox News
Published March 13, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-mlb-slugger-steve-garvey-edges-ahead-adam-schiff-california-us-senate-primary
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 13, 2024, 04:02:39 PM
I'm not confident in California voters, but I really hope they get this right and keep that dishonest hack Schiff out of the Senate.

Former MLB slugger Steve Garvey edges ahead of Adam Schiff in California US Senate primary
As of Wednesday morning, Garvey led Schiff by an incredibly slim margin of just 4,801 votes
By Stepheny Price Fox News
Published March 13, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-mlb-slugger-steve-garvey-edges-ahead-adam-schiff-california-us-senate-primary


The way I understand this is they’re both going to be on the ballot in November so it makes no difference who wins the primary as the top two move on.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 13, 2024, 04:13:20 PM

The way I understand this is they’re both going to be on the ballot in November so it makes no difference who wins the primary as the top two move on.

Correct, although I think the fact he is competitive like this in the primary gives him a puncher's chance in November. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on March 13, 2024, 04:22:44 PM

The way I understand this is they’re both going to be on the ballot in November so it makes no difference who wins the primary as the top two move on.

I'm an CA and I'm trying to follow this.

Both came in either first or second to fill the seat vacated by Feinstein, and both came in either first or second for the regular senate election.

If one or the other wins both this November, he can't serve in both seats, so I'm puzzled...
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on March 13, 2024, 04:45:34 PM
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Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 14, 2024, 11:33:19 AM
Biden, Trump lock up party nominations, setting stage for presidential rematch
Biden and Trump each faced primary challengers and both managed to lose at least one nominating contest.
By Ben Whedon
Updated: March 13, 2024
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/holdbiden-and-trump-lock-party-nominations-setting-stage-presidential
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 14, 2024, 02:04:36 PM
I'm an CA and I'm trying to follow this.

Both came in either first or second to fill the seat vacated by Feinstein, and both came in either first or second for the regular senate election.

If one or the other wins both this November, he can't serve in both seats, so I'm puzzled...

I forgot about Feinstein. So, it’s one election for both seats? If so, both are guaranteed a seat.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 14, 2024, 08:14:38 PM
Poll Shows Biden Bombed State Of The Union Address
BY: TRISTAN JUSTICE
MARCH 14, 2024
https://thefederalist.com/2024/03/14/poll-shows-biden-bombed-state-of-the-union-address/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 15, 2024, 03:33:19 PM
I doubt anyone cares about Mike Pence's endorsement.

https://twitter.com/WesternLensman/status/1768734918765392233
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on March 15, 2024, 03:42:51 PM
I doubt anyone cares about Mike Pence's endorsement.

https://twitter.com/WesternLensman/status/1768734918765392233
Pence, almost as useless as the current VP.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on March 16, 2024, 02:53:22 PM
I doubt anyone cares about Mike Pence's endorsement.

https://twitter.com/WesternLensman/status/1768734918765392233
Never cared for Pence and care even less for the current VP.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 18, 2024, 09:58:15 AM
Behind the scenes, Biden has grown angry and anxious about re-election effort
Biden locked up the Democratic nomination last week, but looking ahead to the general election, anxiety has seemed to increase.
March 17, 2024, 6:00
By Peter Nicholas, Courtney Kube and Carol E. Lee
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/rcna143729
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 18, 2024, 10:00:21 AM
Behind the scenes, Biden has grown angry and anxious about re-election effort
Biden locked up the Democratic nomination last week, but looking ahead to the general election, anxiety has seemed to increase.
March 17, 2024, 6:00
By Peter Nicholas, Courtney Kube and Carol E. Lee
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/rcna143729

Who is anyone kidding?   Biden is not even awake or coherent most of the day. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 18, 2024, 06:28:09 PM
Vivek, Sarah Huckabee, and Elise Stefanik are out as VP, but may get cabinet posts.  Ben Carson and Tim Scott on the short list.  McCarthy as possible Chief of Staff.

Donald Trump rules out Vivek Ramaswamy as running mate as he eyes new team
Trump is looking for a running mate who isn’t motivated by the limelight, but who will help give him a measurable edge in the race against President Joe Biden, according to those familiar with his thinking.
By Bloomberg 
Mar 19, 2024
https://www.cnbctv18.com/world/donald-trump-rules-out-vivek-ramaswamy-as-running-mate-as-he-eyes-new-team-19306851.htm
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on March 18, 2024, 08:06:36 PM
Vivek, Sarah Huckabee, and Elise Stefanik are out as VP, but may get cabinet posts.  Ben Carson and Tim Scott on the short list.  McCarthy as possible Chief of Staff.

Donald Trump rules out Vivek Ramaswamy as running mate as he eyes new team
Trump is looking for a running mate who isn’t motivated by the limelight, but who will help give him a measurable edge in the race against President Joe Biden, according to those familiar with his thinking.
By Bloomberg 
Mar 19, 2024
https://www.cnbctv18.com/world/donald-trump-rules-out-vivek-ramaswamy-as-running-mate-as-he-eyes-new-team-19306851.htm

I like both Dr. Carson and Senator Scott.  Might I throw in a dark horse - Mayor Suarez?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 21, 2024, 04:34:21 PM
Trump likes to throw out zingers but he doesn’t come across “Angry Old Man” as does Biden.

Problems with Biden are that he has no charisma, thinks he’s funnier than he is, and is a bad actor so when he starts to act passionate, it comes across as very fake.

You can see why he failed so often running for President, and the time he won was as a result of being kept hidden.

There is nothing charming and attractive about Trump. But somehow he inspires devotion from folks sheep who are fooled by him.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on March 21, 2024, 05:10:58 PM
There is nothing charming and attractive about Trump. But somehow he inspires devotion from folks sheep who are fooled by him.

Says the Sheep Like follower of Pedo Joe The Liar & Plagiarizer
who cant string a coherent sentence together.

Oh NO NO You're not Fooled are You -No Not by The Pedo Joe show
or the Face nappy wearing China virus scam - remember to follow
all your Governor's Mandates no matter how stupid they are.  ;D

PS Trans Women are real women  ;D ;D :D ;D :D  Believe it   

HTH  ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on March 21, 2024, 05:21:36 PM
There is nothing charming and attractive about Trump. But somehow he inspires devotion from folks sheep who are fooled by him.
Pot/kettle? You leftist are far worse than anyone on the right. You want to know why? The people on the right are reacting to what the douchebags on the left are trying to do and force on the people.

Think about it.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 21, 2024, 05:30:55 PM
There is nothing charming and attractive about Trump. But somehow he inspires devotion from folks sheep who are fooled by him.

Once again showing your George Costanza like instincts.

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on March 21, 2024, 06:23:19 PM
Pot/kettle? You leftist are far worse than anyone on the right. You want to know why? The people on the right are reacting to what the douchebags on the left are trying to do and force on the people.

Think about it.

Spot on - Coach,  many of them are truly warped & perverted in their ideology,
Wanting & allowing children top mutilated & men in women's sport's 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

I don't see the likes of prime, funk, bbc, j.oak, LurkingForBoys ever commenting
On those subjects. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 21, 2024, 07:13:30 PM
Pot/kettle? You leftist are far worse than anyone on the right. You want to know why? The people on the right are reacting to what the douchebags on the left are trying to do and force on the people.

Think about it.

I thought about it. What are we left leaning folks forcing on you (assuming you are on the right)? For example, have I ever told you for whom to vote? Have I ever said anything about taking away women's rights? I have stated several times that I do not like Trump the person, but have I ever told you not to like him? Unlike some people who post on Getbig, have I ever defamed other members by telling lies about them or resorted to vulgar irrelevant name calling? Think about it.
   
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on March 21, 2024, 08:14:35 PM
I thought about it. What are we left leaning folks forcing on you (assuming you are on the right)? For example, have I ever told you for whom to vote? Have I ever said anything about taking away women's rights? I have stated several times that I do not like Trump the person, but have I ever told you not to like him? Unlike some people who post on Getbig, have I ever defamed other members by telling lies about them or resorted to vulgar irrelevant name calling? Think about it.
 
Pretty sure someone that cares more than me can pull up some of your insulting posts. As far as the things the left is trying to force on the American people, the list of fuckery from your type is insanely long and absolutely retarded. Zero common sense coming from the far side of the left spectrum.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 22, 2024, 05:26:54 AM
So, calling us “sheep” is not name calling?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 22, 2024, 03:05:23 PM
NEW: Frank Luntz Warns CNN Seizing Donald Trump's Properties Will Backfire: "You Are Going to Elect Donald Trump"

"He’s going to go up in the polls just like he went up every single time they indicted him."

"If the New York Attorney General starts to take his homes away, starts to seize his assets, it's all going to be on camera, pundits are going to sit there and scream about this, and you're going to create the greatest victimhood of 2024."

"You are going to elect Donald Trump."

"Why is Donald Trump beating Joe Biden when he's got 85 indictments? Felonies? Trump is leading, and in the seven swing states, Trump is up by the margin of error in five out of seven; why is that happening?"

Luntz, who isn't a Trump supporter, realizes that the American people do not want to see their country turn into a banana republic.

Americans do not want to see the party in power imprisoning political adversaries and confiscating their assets, not for clear crimes like murder or bribery, but rather based on novel and dubious interpretations of the law.

If the legal system can be weaponized against a former president, what hope does an ordinary American citizen have?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on March 22, 2024, 05:55:38 PM

If the legal system can be weaponized against a former president, what hope does an ordinary American citizen have?
Left, right, center, black white, yellow......EVERYONE should be concerned about this.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 22, 2024, 06:04:23 PM
Why did Obama meet with the UK Prime Minister while the supposed POTUS ate cinnabuns on the "campaign trail"? Setting up the attack in Moscow?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 22, 2024, 09:31:25 PM
Left, right, center, black white, yellow......EVERYONE should be concerned about this.


That's what I keep telling people.  Substitute "American citizen" for "Trump."  These extremists were already bad, but I believe the Russian Manchurian Candidate hoax, with no consequences, really emboldened them and set the stage for this lawfare. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 22, 2024, 09:37:31 PM
Polls: Donald Trump Leads Biden, Third-Party Candidates in 6 Key Swing States
21 Mar 2024
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/03/21/donald-trump-leads-biden-third-party-candidates-6-key-swing-states/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 22, 2024, 09:42:41 PM
Voters charge Biden wants to ‘jail’ Trump before election, 56%-30%
By Paul Bedard
March 20, 2024
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/2929533/voters-charge-biden-wants-to-jail-trump-before-election-56-30/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 24, 2024, 11:18:57 AM
So, calling us “sheep” is not name calling?

It is a description of a type of human behavior that mirrors that of the animal. If the word bothers you, it is likely because you know it describes how you behave. Also, you should probably consider seeking psychiatric treatment for hypersensitivity... or follow your leader off a cliff like other sheep are wont to do.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on March 24, 2024, 11:25:49 AM
Have there been any stories about repercussions for the Colorado SC judges who removed Trump from the ballot?

When you get slam dunked by the real SC 9-0 it means one of two things:

You are horrible at your job

or

You are an activist.

Both warrant removal.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on March 25, 2024, 11:19:57 AM
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1772084227200164325 (https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1772084227200164325)

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on March 25, 2024, 12:21:45 PM
It is a description of a type of human behavior that mirrors that of the animal. If the word bothers you, it is likely because you know it describes how you behave. Also, you should probably consider seeking psychiatric treatment for hypersensitivity... or follow your leader off a cliff like other sheep are wont to do.

SHEEP !! Says the man that wore a face nappy - stayed 6ft apart - was not out
after 10pm - followed the face nappy on off routine at restaurants - one way
systems in shops - 117 vaccines & boosters - followed all mandates from
the Governor & every thing MSM told him. = SHEEP. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Gym Rat on March 25, 2024, 12:57:30 PM
SHEEP !! Says the man that wore a face nappy - stayed 6ft apart - was not out
after 10pm - followed the face nappy on off routine at restaurants - one way
systems in shops - 117 vaccines & boosters - followed all mandates from
the Governor & every thing MSM told him. = SHEEP.

Also swallowed disgusting cokk at glory holes while wife's on deathbed... What a disgusting creature...
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 25, 2024, 01:31:26 PM
lol

James Carville Lets Loose: Looking at Biden's Poll Numbers Is 'Like Walking in on Your Grandma Naked'
By Bob Hoge | March 24, 2024
https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2024/03/24/james-carville-sounds-off-looking-at-bidens-poll-numbers-is-like-walking-in-on-your-grandma-naked-n2171863
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on March 25, 2024, 02:21:14 PM
Trump just keeps on WINNING!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on March 25, 2024, 02:28:08 PM
Also swallowed disgusting cokk at glory holes while wife's on deathbed... What a disgusting creature...


😱  🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮  No No No   I very much hope that he didn't do such things .

The issue of calling others a SHEEP 🐑  when he followed & believed/ believes all the lies &
Propaganda about the China Virus & cannot see / recognise he was duped.
All the info that's now out there & Still has his head up his arse.

Unbelievable. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 25, 2024, 05:15:35 PM
SHEEP !! Says the man that wore a face nappy - stayed 6ft apart - was not out
after 10pm - followed the face nappy on off routine at restaurants - one way
systems in shops - 117 vaccines & boosters - followed all mandates from
the Governor & every thing MSM told him. = SHEEP.

COVID obsessed much? You obviously think about COVID much more than I ever did. Clearly it had a bigger impact on you than it did on me. And you cannot let it go.

Yes, I did some of the things you mention... no big deal to me. To date, I had two vaccines and one booster. I rarely go out after 10:00 pm anyway. Please tell me what Oregon's Governor's mandates were because they have completely slipped my mind.

Sheep is not a dirty word nor an insult in my book, so carry on acting as you always do... hamster. Am I supposed to care what you think about me or COVID? Too bad because I don't give a hoot.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on March 25, 2024, 06:57:56 PM
COVID obsessed much? You obviously think about COVID much more than I ever did. Clearly it had a bigger impact on you than it did on me. And you cannot let it go.

Yes, I did some of the things you mention... no big deal to me. To date, I had two vaccines and one booster. I rarely go out after 10:00 pm anyway. Please tell me what Oregon's Governor's mandates were because they have completely slipped my mind.

Sheep is not a dirty word nor an insult in my book, so carry on acting as you always do... hamster. Am I supposed to care what you think about me or COVID? Too bad because I don't give a hoot.


1940s Germany  - Ring any Bells with you ?
You & All like you were just 1 or 2 steps away from going down that same road with those not vaccinated.
So yes it bothered me & always will.
Folks like you learned nothing from ww2 & how 24/7 State propaganda & mass form psychosis worked.

If there was a shred of humility or decency in you,  you'd be able to recognise & admit you were fooled
& followed stupid & dangerous propaganda.

Read The book  - Ordinary Men - Reserve police battalion 101 & The final solution in Poland.

We all know very clearly that you'd of gone along with what they were doing.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 26, 2024, 03:19:35 PM

1940s Germany  - Ring any Bells with you ?
You & All like you were just 1 or 2 steps away from going down that same road with those not vaccinated.
So yes it bothered me & always will.
Folks like you learned nothing from ww2 & how 24/7 State propaganda & mass form psychosis worked.

If there was a shred of humility or decency in you,  you'd be able to recognise & admit you were fooled
& followed stupid & dangerous propaganda.

Read The book  - Ordinary Men - Reserve police battalion 101 & The final solution in Poland.

We all know very clearly that you'd of gone along with what they were doing.

I was born in 1944, about a year before WWII ended. The impact of COVID on our lives is a past event. Presently, I am more concerned the future of U.S. democracy should a hoard of red hat imbeciles elect their cult leader and wannabee dictator.

'What is the point of the book Ordinary Men?
While the book discusses a specific unit, its general argument is that most people are susceptible to the pressure of a group setting and committing actions they would never do of their own volition.'

Does the Capitol riot/insurrection on January 6, 2020 ring a bell?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on March 26, 2024, 04:59:04 PM
I was born in 1944, about a year before WWII ended. The impact of COVID on our lives is a past event. Presently, I am more concerned the future of U.S. democracy should a hoard of red hat imbeciles elect their cult leader and wannabee dictator.

'What is the point of the book Ordinary Men?
While the book discusses a specific unit, its general argument is that most people are susceptible to the pressure of a group setting and committing actions they would never do of their own volition.'

Does the Capitol riot/insurrection on January 6, 2020 ring a bell?


We know what you'd of been doing & who's orders you'd of followed & believed
Forget jan 6th crap for deflection.
Concentrate on your own gullibility & your ridiculous actions.

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on March 26, 2024, 06:50:02 PM

Does the Capitol riot/insurrection on January 6, 2020 ring a bell?
There was no insurrection, you're old enough to know better, which means you are intentionally spreading mistruths which makes you a liar.
Hope this helps. :)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 27, 2024, 04:11:04 PM
There was no insurrection, you're old enough to know better, which means you are intentionally spreading mistruths which makes you a liar.
Hope this helps. :)

Guess we will know this for certain if and when the Supreme Court considers whether Trump should be disqualified under Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment and whether the events of that day qualify as an "insurrection."
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 27, 2024, 08:35:46 PM
Guess we will know this for certain if and when the Supreme Court considers whether Trump should be disqualified under Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment and whether the events of that day qualify as an "insurrection."


Hail Mary post of peace.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on March 27, 2024, 09:04:54 PM
Guess we will know this for certain if and when the Supreme Court considers whether Trump should be disqualified under Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment and whether the events of that day qualify as an "insurrection."
Yes, because so many of the people that have been arrested for being near the building on Jan 6th have been charged with insurrection. ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: loco on March 28, 2024, 09:11:10 AM
DemonCraps are scared:

California is preparing to defend itself — and the nation — against Trump 2.0

"Gov. Gavin Newsom is readying an army of bureaucrats to defend the state's nation-leading climate policies against a potential second Trump administration.

Newsom administration officials are keenly aware that deep-blue California is a prime target for former President Donald Trump's political diatribes and policy rollbacks — and they fully expect he'll resume his attacks on the Golden State if he wins in November."


https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-preparing-defend-itself-nation-090000875.html

(https://d1i4t8bqe7zgj6.cloudfront.net/thumbnails/56a80030e4b0f3f1795a9b2e/20160126_LAUGHINGimage.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: IroNat on March 28, 2024, 10:01:31 AM
Newsom is busy raising hamburger prices.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on March 28, 2024, 02:01:32 PM
Yes, because so many of the people that have been arrested for being near the building on Jan 6th have been charged with insurrection. ::)

Tell me oh wise(ass) legal expert, why is this?

About 750 people have been sentenced, most did or are doing time in prison. Their sentences range from a few days of intermittent confinement to 22 years. The longest sentence was handed down to Enrique Tarrio, was convicted of seditious conspiracy for what prosecutors described as a plot to stop the transfer of power. It would have been better for him had they charged him with insurrection because this crime has a maximum 10-year sentence and a fine. Since an insurrection is inciting a rebellion, this might be reserved for Trump since many believe he incited or instigated the events on January 6, 2020. It also means he cannot hold a public office.
 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on March 28, 2024, 02:59:25 PM
Tell me oh wise(ass) legal expert, why is this?

About 750 people have been sentenced, most did or are doing time in prison. Their sentences range from a few days of intermittent confinement to 22 years. The longest sentence was handed down to Enrique Tarrio, was convicted of seditious conspiracy for what prosecutors described as a plot to stop the transfer of power. It would have been better for him had they charged him with insurrection because this crime has a maximum 10-year sentence and a fine. Since an insurrection is inciting a rebellion, this might be reserved for Trump since many believe he incited or instigated the events on January 6, 2020. It also means he cannot hold a public office.
Trump will pardon them all as he should. No one should be jailed for an insurrection because an insurrection never occurred.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on March 28, 2024, 04:54:53 PM
Tell me oh wise(ass) legal expert, why is this?

About 750 people have been sentenced, most did or are doing time in prison. Their sentences range from a few days of intermittent confinement to 22 years. The longest sentence was handed down to Enrique Tarrio, was convicted of seditious conspiracy for what prosecutors described as a plot to stop the transfer of power. It would have been better for him had they charged him with insurrection because this crime has a maximum 10-year sentence and a fine. Since an insurrection is inciting a rebellion, this might be reserved for Trump since many believe he incited or instigated the events on January 6, 2020. It also means he cannot hold a public office.
Why is that? It was a witchhunt to use him and his group as an example that if you are outside of the governments control they will persecute you whether you're guilty or not. Pretty simple thing to see to anyone with common sense, wouldn't expect you to get it.

DemonCraps are scared:

California is preparing to defend itself — and the nation — against Trump 2.0

"Gov. Gavin Newsom is readying an army of bureaucrats to defend the state's nation-leading climate policies against a potential second Trump administration.

Newsom administration officials are keenly aware that deep-blue California is a prime target for former President Donald Trump's political diatribes and policy rollbacks — and they fully expect he'll resume his attacks on the Golden State if he wins in November."


https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-preparing-defend-itself-nation-090000875.html

(https://d1i4t8bqe7zgj6.cloudfront.net/thumbnails/56a80030e4b0f3f1795a9b2e/20160126_LAUGHINGimage.jpg)
Newsom should focus on defending himself from the newest recall that's chasing him around.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 28, 2024, 10:08:50 PM
Guess we will know this for certain if and when the Supreme Court considers whether Trump should be disqualified under Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment and whether the events of that day qualify as an "insurrection."

Everyone should already know it was not an insurrection based on (1) common sense and (2) the fact no one has been charged with insurrection. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 28, 2024, 10:14:15 PM
RFK Jr. names attorney Nicole Shanahan as his VP pick
The attorney and entrepreneur, like Kennedy himself, has never run for elected office.
March 26, 2024
By Vaughn Hillyard, Katherine Koretski, Alex Seitz-Wald and Allan Smith
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/rfk-jr-intends-name-attorney-nicole-shanahan-vp-pick-rcna144983
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 28, 2024, 10:18:14 PM
Biden gains on Trump in 6 battleground states in new poll
Brett Samuels
March 26, 2024
https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-gains-trump-6-battleground-125141581.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 29, 2024, 12:37:43 AM
Biden gains on Trump in 6 battleground states in new poll
Brett Samuels
March 26, 2024
https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-gains-trump-6-battleground-125141581.html
Trump's answer on Social Security was a huge mistake. SS and abortion are killing republicans. They should be up 30 points.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 29, 2024, 05:39:12 AM
Going forward you have to include Kennedy:

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 29, 2024, 04:03:34 PM
Trump's answer on Social Security was a huge mistake. SS and abortion are killing republicans. They should be up 30 points.

Yeah those issues are definitely going to play a role in November.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 29, 2024, 04:04:43 PM
Going forward you have to include Kennedy:

We just might see another situation like Ross Perot.  Kennedy will not get nearly the number of votes, but he very well could get enough to impact the results in swing states.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on March 29, 2024, 04:05:15 PM
They are realizing just how much we have at stake in November. 

Many GOP billionaires balked at Jan. 6. They’re coming back to Trump.
Elite donors are rediscovering their affinity for the former president over taxes — even as he vows to free Jan. 6 defendants, promises mass deportations and faces 88 felony charges
By Josh Dawsey, Jeff Stein, Michael Scherer and Elizabeth Dwoskin
Published March 29, 2024
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/29/trump-billionaires-gop-donors/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 01, 2024, 03:55:44 PM
So the guy who claims to have seen an alien spaceship is trying to go back to Congress.  Why not?  What could go wrong?

Being in the House is miserable. Some former members still want to come back.

Regardless of the last time they’ve held federal office, should they win, they’ll be entering a Congress that is very different from their previous terms.
Madison Fernandez
04/01/2024
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/04/01/congress/former-members-launch-return-bids-house-00149945
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on April 02, 2024, 12:36:41 PM
Given Mr Trumps pro life credentials (Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization)  is it significant that he has said little or nothing about the forthcoming aportion referendum in Florida

https://supremecourt.flcourts.gov/content/download/2285282/opinion/Opinion_SC2023-1392.pdf (https://supremecourt.flcourts.gov/content/download/2285282/opinion/Opinion_SC2023-1392.pdf)

https://initiativepetitions.elections.myflorida.com/InitiativeForms/Fulltext/Fulltext_2307_EN.pdf (https://initiativepetitions.elections.myflorida.com/InitiativeForms/Fulltext/Fulltext_2307_EN.pdf)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 03, 2024, 12:09:36 AM
Given Mr Trumps pro life credentials (Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization)  is it significant that he has said little or nothing about the forthcoming aportion referendum in Florida

https://supremecourt.flcourts.gov/content/download/2285282/opinion/Opinion_SC2023-1392.pdf (https://supremecourt.flcourts.gov/content/download/2285282/opinion/Opinion_SC2023-1392.pdf)

https://initiativepetitions.elections.myflorida.com/InitiativeForms/Fulltext/Fulltext_2307_EN.pdf (https://initiativepetitions.elections.myflorida.com/InitiativeForms/Fulltext/Fulltext_2307_EN.pdf)
I can't believe republicans are pressing on the abortion issue along with SS in an election year. It's like they want to lose. Then again, democrats are pressing the transgender stuff and insulting christians. Who runs these national campaigns?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on April 03, 2024, 11:16:31 AM
Mr Trump is now the only Republican party presidential candidate . In the recent primaries  (why are they even having them) He got:

79% in Connecticut,
82 % in New York,
84 % in Rhode Island,
79 % in Wisconsin.

A fifth or so of GOP voters are still just showing up to vote  for somebody else instead.
What the duck is wrong with them?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 03, 2024, 11:53:41 AM
Mr Trump is now the only Republican party presidential candidate . In the recent primaries  (why are they even having them) He got:

79% in Connecticut,
82 % in New York,
84 % in Rhode Island,
79 % in Wisconsin.

A fifth or so of GOP voters are still just showing up to vote  for somebody else instead.
What the duck is wrong with them?

I believe every state holds either a primary election or a caucus. And you answered your own question when you wrote that a fifth or the GOP voters are voting for a candidate other than Trump.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 03, 2024, 12:01:23 PM
Mr Trump is now the only Republican party presidential candidate . In the recent primaries  (why are they even having them) He got:

79% in Connecticut,
82 % in New York,
84 % in Rhode Island,
79 % in Wisconsin.

A fifth or so of GOP voters are still just showing up to vote  for somebody else instead.
What the duck is wrong with them?

Those people don't really matter.  I created a thread in 2015 or 2016 that kept track of the enormous number of GOP voters who did not vote for Trump in the primaries.  I'm not sure he ever got 50 percent of the vote in any state until very late in the process.  I thought it showed how poorly he would do in the general.  I was wrong.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 03, 2024, 12:20:01 PM
Mr Trump is now the only Republican party presidential candidate . In the recent primaries  (why are they even having them) He got:

79% in Connecticut,
82 % in New York,
84 % in Rhode Island,
79 % in Wisconsin.

A fifth or so of GOP voters are still just showing up to vote  for somebody else instead.
What the duck is wrong with them?

Never Trumpers voting for Haley:


Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 03, 2024, 06:27:03 PM
Never Trumpers voting for Haley:

Haley was my choice, but that ship sailed once she suspended her campaign. It will be nothing short of a miracle if she gets back on the ballot.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on April 03, 2024, 08:34:20 PM
Haley was my choice, but that ship sailed once she suspended her campaign. It will be nothing short of a miracle if she gets back on the ballot.
You should definitely throw your support behind Ross Perot.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 04, 2024, 12:19:02 PM
You should definitely throw your support behind Ross Perot.

You have not been paying attention, Chaos. I am clear that I do not support ancient people for the Presidency. Niki Haley is 52 years old which is pretty much the prime of life today. Also, it is past time to put a female in office. I cannot support Kennedy for two reasons; the first being that with his speech affliction, I cannot understand what he is saying, (maybe this is good), the second being I suspect he is another nut job like Trump… only with different issues.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 04, 2024, 12:28:08 PM
You should definitely throw your support behind Ross Perot.

 ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 04, 2024, 12:29:57 PM
;D

Nor have you been paying attention.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Gym Rat on April 04, 2024, 01:08:16 PM
Shitter short-circuits majorly. Cannot speak or read...

i=pmOgEMWCfcrvm2tK
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 04, 2024, 01:11:08 PM
Nor have you been paying attention.

Yes I have Buzz Killington.  I was laughing at chaos telling you to support Ross Perot, who died in 2019.  It's not really funny when you have to explain it.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 04, 2024, 01:50:40 PM
Yes I have Buzz Killington.  I was laughing at chaos telling you to support Ross Perot, who died in 2019.  It's not really funny when you have to explain it.

That Perot is a dead man and that both of the other men are ancient is funny, I guess. It also proves my point which is these men are too old.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on April 04, 2024, 01:53:00 PM
That Perot is a dead man and the both of the other men are ancient is funny, I guess. It also proves my point which is these men are too old.
Enlightening observation. ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 04, 2024, 02:06:43 PM
Enlightening observation. ::)

You would do well to learn to take enlightenment and humor wherever you can find it.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on April 04, 2024, 02:28:19 PM
You would do well to learn to take enlightenment and humor wherever you can find it.
Of course
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on April 04, 2024, 03:53:27 PM
Yes I have Buzz Killington.  I was laughing at chaos telling you to support Ross Perot, who died in 2019.  It's not really funny when you have to explain it.

(https://media1.tenor.com/m/pgqf6BDXADIAAAAC/the-office-steve-carell.gif)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on April 04, 2024, 05:11:10 PM
Also, it is past time to put a female in office.
This is some of the stupidest shit I've seen, about as retarded as "it's time to put a black man in office" What ever happened to putting the best candidate in the office? The fact that race or gender would even play a role in your decision shows how badly affected people your age are.
I'm now in support of a maximum age for the right to vote. There is a minimum age right? We should cut off anyone over 65....maybe 70 from voting or running for office.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on April 04, 2024, 05:22:35 PM
This is some of the stupidest shit I've seen, about as retarded as "it's time to put a black man in office" What ever happened to putting the best candidate in the office? The fact that race or gender would even play a role in your decision shows how badly affected people your age are.
I'm now in support of a maximum age for the right to vote. There is a minimum age right? We should cut off anyone over 65....maybe 70 from voting or running for office.

This. Age limits AND term limits. If there is a minimum age limit there should also be a maximum age limit.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on April 04, 2024, 05:42:28 PM
You have not been paying attention, Chaos. I am clear that I do not support ancient people for the Presidency. Niki Haley is 52 years old which is pretty much the prime of life today. Also, it is past time to put a female in office. I cannot support Kennedy for two reasons; the first being that with his speech affliction, I cannot understand what he is saying, (maybe this is good), the second being I suspect he is another nut job like Trump… only with different issues.

WTF - Putting women in positions of authority is a major reason the worlds so Fucked up now,
They do not think or act as Men do & the world had been built by Men.
Men & women have naturally very different roles & all this stupid mixing of roles is plain crazy.

You can't understand what Kennedy says , Yet can decipher the word salads & mumbo jumbo
Pedo Joe comes out with - Hell he invents new words every times he speaks.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 04, 2024, 07:14:16 PM
(https://media1.tenor.com/m/pgqf6BDXADIAAAAC/the-office-steve-carell.gif)

 ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 04, 2024, 07:38:07 PM
You have not been paying attention, Chaos. I am clear that I do not support ancient people for the Presidency. Niki Haley is 52 years old which is pretty much the prime of life today. Also, it is past time to put a female in office. I cannot support Kennedy for two reasons; the first being that with his speech affliction, I cannot understand what he is saying, (maybe this is good), the second being I suspect he is another nut job like Trump… only with different issues.


You can't understand Biden. Didn't stop you from voting for that discombobulated meat stick.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 04, 2024, 07:38:28 PM
If Trump wins in November this will be one of the main reasons why.

Marist Poll: Independents Swing 28 Points Toward Donald Trump in 4 Years
WENDELL HUSEBØ
3 Apr 2024
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/04/03/marist-poll-independents-swing-28-points-toward-donald-trump-in-4-years/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 04, 2024, 07:49:26 PM
Tulsi Gabbard confirms she turned down RFK Jr's offer to be his running mate, but admits she is still willing to serve if Trump asks
Gabbard said in a statement she 'respectfully declined' to serve as Kennedy's running mate
She told journalist Tucker Carlson she would be 'honored' to serve with Trump if he asked
Gabbard endorsed Sen. Bernie Sanders for president in 2016
By CHARLIE SPIERING, SENIOR POLITICAL REPORTER, WASHINGTON, DC
PUBLISHED: 2 April 2024
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13264549/Tulsi-Gabbard-confirms-turned-RFK-Jrs-offer-running-mate-admits-willing-serve-Trump-asks.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 04, 2024, 08:04:37 PM

You can't understand Biden. Didn't stop you from voting for that discombobulated meat stick.

You don't know who I voted for. Oregon does mail-in ballots exclusively and provide a secrete envelope, which I always use.  :)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on April 04, 2024, 08:52:25 PM
You don't know who I voted for. Oregon does mail-in ballots exclusively and provide a secrete envelope, which I always use.  :)

The usual obfuscating BS.


Like Matt, I am done with politics for now. Whether or not you or anyone else thinks Biden is a lame fool doesn't interest me. However, to answer your question I voted for him, so yes, I support him.  As for admiring him, I will decide that after he leaves office.

Try posting something unique rather than repeating what others post. No one aside from my family and friends 'lives rent free in my mind'.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on April 04, 2024, 09:51:16 PM
You don't know who I voted for. Oregon does mail-in ballots exclusively and provide a secrete envelope, which I always use.  :)


Yes we do know - you posted it  ::) Dumbo



Quote from: Primemuscle on 07-07-2022, 20:18:50

Like Matt, I am done with politics for now. Whether or not you or anyone else thinks Biden is a lame fool doesn't interest me. However, to answer your question I voted for him, so yes, I support him.  As for admiring him, I will decide that after he leaves office.

Try posting something unique rather than repeating what others post. No one aside from my family and friends 'lives rent free in my mind'.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on April 05, 2024, 01:57:43 AM

Yes we do know - you posted it  ::) Dumbo

Quote from: Primemuscle on 07-07-2022, 20:18:50

.



do you do much of this - stalking old men on line ?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2024, 03:17:48 PM

Yes we do know - you posted it  ::) Dumbo



Quote from: Primemuscle on 07-07-2022, 20:18:50

Like Matt, I am done with politics for now. Whether or not you or anyone else thinks Biden is a lame fool doesn't interest me. However, to answer your question I voted for him, so yes, I support him.  As for admiring him, I will decide that after he leaves office.

Try posting something unique rather than repeating what others post. No one aside from my family and friends 'lives rent free in my mind'.

There you have it, I did post that I voted for him and you believed me.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on April 05, 2024, 03:26:06 PM
Tulsi Gabbard confirms she turned down RFK Jr's offer to be his running mate, but admits she is still willing to serve if Trump asks
Gabbard said in a statement she 'respectfully declined' to serve as Kennedy's running mate
She told journalist Tucker Carlson she would be 'honored' to serve with Trump if he asked
Gabbard endorsed Sen. Bernie Sanders for president in 2016
By CHARLIE SPIERING, SENIOR POLITICAL REPORTER, WASHINGTON, DC
PUBLISHED: 2 April 2024
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13264549/Tulsi-Gabbard-confirms-turned-RFK-Jrs-offer-running-mate-admits-willing-serve-Trump-asks.html

Harris would refuse to debate her, she knows Tulsi would own her to oblivion just like in the Dem primary.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2024, 03:38:27 PM
Harris would refuse to debate her, she knows Tulsi would own her to oblivion just like in the Dem primary.

No doubt.  Have you seen this?  Harris is legitimately an imbecile. 

https://twitter.com/Outkick/status/1776369226728497226
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on April 05, 2024, 04:39:05 PM
No doubt.  Have you seen this?  Harris is legitimately an imbecile. 

https://twitter.com/Outkick/status/1776369226728497226

"But when you see it, you realize - Oh!"

Venn diagrams
School buses
See the Moon's craters with your own eyes
passage of time
And I'm the Vice President and my name is Kamala Harris
Austrians speak Austrian - wait, that was Obama  :D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on April 05, 2024, 05:17:43 PM
There you have it, I did post that I voted for him and you believed me.

I just reposted what you had stated.
If you did or didn't only you know.

Though I'd of thought you'd have the courage of your convictions
to be able to say who you voted for.   ::)

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on April 05, 2024, 05:19:38 PM


do you do much of this - stalking old men on line ?

Do you do a lot of this white knighting & hoping for a cock suck
of older men on the internet ?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on April 06, 2024, 03:22:19 AM
Do you do a lot of this white knighting & hoping for a cock suck
of older men on the internet ?

no :)
otherwise you would have come across me
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on April 06, 2024, 09:06:39 AM
There you have it, I did post that I voted for him and you believed me.
Good to see you openly admit to being a liar. That's the first step to recovery!!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on April 06, 2024, 09:19:37 AM
“Somebody said he looks great in a bathing suit, right? And you know, when he was in the sand and he was having a hard time lifting his feet through the sand, because you know sand is heavy, they figured three solid ounces per foot, but sand is a little heavy, and he’s sitting in a bathing suit.

Look, at 81, do you remember Cary Grant? How good was Cary Grant, right? I don’t think Cary Grant, he was good. I don’t know what happened to movie stars today. We used to have Cary Grant and Clark Gable and all these people. Today we have, I won’t say names, because I don’t need enemies. I don’t need enemies. I got enough enemies.

But Cary Grant was, like – Michael Jackson once told me, ‘The most handsome man, Trump, in the world.’ ‘Who?’ ‘Cary Grant.’ Well, we don’t have that any more, but Cary Grant at 81 or 82, going on 100. This guy, he’s 81, going on 100. Cary Grant wouldn’t look too good in a bathing suit, either. And he was pretty good-looking, right?”
Mr Trump
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on April 06, 2024, 09:30:21 AM
“Somebody said he looks great in a bathing suit, right? And you know, when he was in the sand and he was having a hard time lifting his feet through the sand, because you know sand is heavy, they figured three solid ounces per foot, but sand is a little heavy, and he’s sitting in a bathing suit.

Look, at 81, do you remember Cary Grant? How good was Cary Grant, right? I don’t think Cary Grant, he was good. I don’t know what happened to movie stars today. We used to have Cary Grant and Clark Gable and all these people. Today we have, I won’t say names, because I don’t need enemies. I don’t need enemies. I got enough enemies.

But Cary Grant was, like – Michael Jackson once told me, ‘The most handsome man, Trump, in the world.’ ‘Who?’ ‘Cary Grant.’ Well, we don’t have that any more, but Cary Grant at 81 or 82, going on 100. This guy, he’s 81, going on 100. Cary Grant wouldn’t look too good in a bathing suit, either. And he was pretty good-looking, right?”
Mr Trump



do you do much of this - stalking old men on line ?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on April 06, 2024, 09:46:38 AM

: )
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on April 06, 2024, 09:51:58 AM
no :)
otherwise you would have come across me

Well clearly you do as i have had the mis-pleasure
of having meet you on line.
on here white knighting for Prime. Think again Bozo.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 06, 2024, 01:42:34 PM
I just reposted what you had stated.
If you did or didn't only you know.

Though I'd of thought you'd have the courage of your convictions
to be able to say who you voted for.   ::)

I do have courage of my convictions. This does not mean I must reveal who I vote for. Maybe you have a misunderstanding what that phrase means. Look it up.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on April 06, 2024, 03:12:05 PM
I do have courage of my convictions. This does not mean I must reveal who I vote for. Maybe you have a misunderstanding what that phrase means. Look it up.

More Typical deflection Bollocks
You're a grown man acting like a Fucking child
all because you're to scared / embarrassed to say who
you voted for.  ::)

Absolutely Pathetic
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 06, 2024, 11:47:00 PM
More Typical deflection Bollocks
You're a grown man acting like a Fucking child
all because you're to scared / embarrassed to say who
you voted for.  ::)

Absolutely Pathetic

Sorry, not taking the bait. Why would I be scared of you?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on April 07, 2024, 06:30:57 AM
“And on June 14, 1946, God looked down on his planned paradise, and said: ‘I need a caretaker,’” booms a video that Trump shared on his Truth Social account, and that has been played at some of his rallies.

“So God gave us Trump.”

The video, made by Dilley Meme Team, a group of Trump supporters, continues:

“God said: ‘I need somebody willing to get up before dawn, fix this country, work all day, fight the Marxists, eat supper, then go to the Oval Office and stay up past midnight at a meeting of the heads of state.’ So God made Trump.”
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on April 07, 2024, 06:52:06 AM
Sorry, not taking the bait. Why would I be scared of you?

You're on a different planet, Put you're crack pipe down- where did I mention
you should be scared of Me.?  I didn't you introduced that  ::)

Scared of admitting who you voted for - yes
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on April 07, 2024, 08:45:36 AM
“And on June 14, 1946, God looked down on his planned paradise, and said: ‘I need a caretaker,’” booms a video that Trump shared on his Truth Social account, and that has been played at some of his rallies.

“So God gave us Trump.”

The video, made by Dilley Meme Team, a group of Trump supporters, continues:

“God said: ‘I need somebody willing to get up before dawn, fix this country, work all day, fight the Marxists, eat supper, then go to the Oval Office and stay up past midnight at a meeting of the heads of state.’ So God made Trump.”
Fanbois can get overboard and obsessed for sure. Look at that weirdo that posts here, he's obsessed with Trump.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on April 07, 2024, 09:34:55 AM
Fanbois can get overboard and obsessed for sure. Look at that weirdo that posts here, he's obsessed with Trump.

absolutely
We could all learn from your restraint and moderation



meanwhile
Biddy Biden may not make the ballot in Ohio

https://eu.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/state/2024/04/06/joe-biden-may-not-qualify-for-november-ballot-in-ohio-letter-says/73230352007/ (https://eu.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/state/2024/04/06/joe-biden-may-not-qualify-for-november-ballot-in-ohio-letter-says/73230352007/)
The Ohio Secretary of State is warning that President Joe Biden won't make it on the general election ballot in Ohio unless a state law is changed or the Democratic National Convention meets earlier.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on April 07, 2024, 10:31:22 AM
absolutely
We could all learn from your restraint and moderation



meanwhile
Biddy Biden may not make the ballot in Ohio

https://eu.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/state/2024/04/06/joe-biden-may-not-qualify-for-november-ballot-in-ohio-letter-says/73230352007/ (https://eu.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/state/2024/04/06/joe-biden-may-not-qualify-for-november-ballot-in-ohio-letter-says/73230352007/)
The Ohio Secretary of State is warning that President Joe Biden won't make it on the general election ballot in Ohio unless a state law is changed or the Democratic National Convention meets earlier.
You are the Ying to my Yang, the Ding to my Dong.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 07, 2024, 01:27:51 PM
Fanbois can get overboard and obsessed for sure. Look at that weirdo that posts here, he's obsessed with Trump.

(TDS) An obsession is an obsession regardless if it for or against Trump.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 08, 2024, 11:41:22 AM
Trump's Palm Beach fundraiser, joined by Melania Trump, rakes in $50 million, organizers say
Melania has made two public appearances on Trump's campaign trail this cycle.
By Soo Rin Kim and Lalee Ibssa
April 7, 2024
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-palm-beach-fundraiser-joined-melania-trump-rakes/story?id=108949489
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 09, 2024, 12:04:02 PM
This is following Biden actually getting out from the basement and making a few appearances. He just doesn’t have it, even in his prime he was a bad candidate:



https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/2024-presidential-election-polling


Trump retakes lead: Trump leads Biden among all voters by 1 percentage point, 44% to 43%. The race remains in a narrower state compared to before the Super Tuesday primary contests, when Trump consistently led throughout January and February.

Trump has a slight popularity edge: Trump has retaken a net favorability advantage over Biden, though the bulk of the electorate is still more likely to hold negative views about both major party contenders. However, voters are still more likely to report hearing something negative about Trump than Biden.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on April 09, 2024, 01:14:03 PM
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112235238031827342 (https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112235238031827342)

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4580775-read-trump-abortion-statement/ (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4580775-read-trump-abortion-statement/)
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112237095868339643 (https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112237095868339643)

 "....When the Supreme Court had the courage to do the right thing LEGALLY, and terminate Roe v. Wade, all of those people, including Lindsey Graham and Marjorie Dannenfelser of Susan B. Anthony that were “hardliners”, one day after the Victory, were gone and of absolutely no help, as the Democrats staged rallies and won Elections they should never have won. Lindsey, Marjorie, and others fought for years, unsuccessfully, until I came along and got the job done. Then they were gone, never to be heard from again, until now.


https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112237631352199484 (https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112237631352199484)
"People forget, fighting Roe v. Wade was, right from the beginning, all about bringing the Issue back to the States, pursuant to the 10th Amendment and States’ Rights. It wasn’t about anything else. "
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 10, 2024, 07:46:37 PM
Tim Scott is the leading VP candidate according to betting odds.  https://electionbettingodds.com/RepublicanVicePresident_2024.html

I actually think Trump and DeSantis should put their egos in their back pocket and team up.  Highly unlikely.

I like Rubio of the rumored short list candidates, but I suspect it will be Scott, Noem, with JD Vance as a longshot. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 11, 2024, 12:21:58 AM
Tim Scott is the leading VP candidate according to betting odds.  https://electionbettingodds.com/RepublicanVicePresident_2024.html

I actually think Trump and DeSantis should put their egos in their back pocket and team up.  Highly unlikely.

I like Rubio of the rumored short list candidates, but I suspect it will be Scott, Noem, with JD Vance as a longshot.
Rubio is not on the short list since he started wearing boosters.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 11, 2024, 07:17:23 AM
(TDS) An obsession is an obsession regardless if it for or against Trump.

What an odd duck.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 11, 2024, 08:34:34 AM
From Agnostic’s preferred polling site. Does Biden strike you as the type who can rally from behind? [No Homo]

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 11, 2024, 08:43:58 AM
White House Announces Inflation Doing Great If You Hold The Chart Upside Dow


 :D

https://babylonbee.com/news/white-house-announces-inflation-doing-great-if-you-hold-the-chart-upside-down
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on April 11, 2024, 11:45:39 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/10/us/politics/kari-lake-abortion-arizona.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/10/us/politics/kari-lake-abortion-arizona.html)
Kari Lake Called Arizona’s Abortion Ban a ‘Great Law,’ but Now She Denounces It

https://www.axios.com/2024/04/09/kari-lake-arizona-abortion-ban (https://www.axios.com/2024/04/09/kari-lake-arizona-abortion-ban)

    "I oppose today's ruling, and I am calling on [Democratic Gov.] Katie Hobbs and the state Legislature to come up with an immediate commonsense solution that Arizonans can support," Lake said in a statement.
    But Lake said in 2022 that the near-total ban the ruling upholds is a "great law" and said it sets an example for other states.

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on April 11, 2024, 11:46:31 AM
American's shouldn't laugh at Joe
Remember if he'd not had Conversations with Bob Marley ,
Lord Nelson & Genghis Khan America would be at war with Antarctica  :o
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 11, 2024, 01:22:09 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/10/us/politics/kari-lake-abortion-arizona.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/10/us/politics/kari-lake-abortion-arizona.html)
Kari Lake Called Arizona’s Abortion Ban a ‘Great Law,’ but Now She Denounces It

https://www.axios.com/2024/04/09/kari-lake-arizona-abortion-ban (https://www.axios.com/2024/04/09/kari-lake-arizona-abortion-ban)

    "I oppose today's ruling, and I am calling on [Democratic Gov.] Katie Hobbs and the state Legislature to come up with an immediate commonsense solution that Arizonans can support," Lake said in a statement.
    But Lake said in 2022 that the near-total ban the ruling upholds is a "great law" and said it sets an example for other states.

I understand you’re looking for anything to prop up Biden’s failing campaign but abortion is not gonna be a major issue.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: mphgrove on April 11, 2024, 01:47:12 PM
I understand you’re looking for anything to prop up Biden’s failing campaign but abortion is not gonna be a major issue.

Well, who knows about a general election but it has proved to be a potent issue so far. And there is absolutely no doubt that the Democrats are favored by that particular issue (there are other issues like immigration and inflation where they are not favored as we all know).
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 11, 2024, 01:53:09 PM
Well, who knows about a general election but it has proved to be a potent issue so far. And there is absolutely no doubt that the Democrats are favored by that particular issue (there are other issues like immigration and inflation where they are not favored as we all know).

It ranks at the bottom, more specifically second from the bottom.

In addition, Trump’s position is pretty moderate. He just came out and said the Arizona ban goes too far. They’ll eventually change it.


https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2024/3/6/inflation-and-the-economy-consistently-rank-as-top-issues-among-likely-voters-and-heres-our-new-way-to-ask-issue-importance


Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on April 11, 2024, 02:12:31 PM
I understand you’re looking for anything to prop up Biden’s failing campaign but abortion is not gonna be a major issue.

Not sure - it screwed up the midterms.

I'm not convinced Trump's position on it will affect anyone's decision, plus, most of his detractors don't actually pay attention to what he says in terms of policy.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 11, 2024, 02:55:39 PM
Not sure - it screwed up the midterms.

I'm not convinced Trump's position on it will affect anyone's decision, plus, most of his detractors don't actually pay attention to what he says in terms of policy.

The majority of the public are all over the place on the issue and as a result rarely have it determine their vote:


https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/05/06/americas-abortion-quandary/

PEW RESEARCH CENTERMAY 6, 2022
America’s Abortion Quandary

A majority of Americans say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, but many are open to restrictions; many opponents of legal abortion say it should be legal in some circumstances
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on April 11, 2024, 05:32:18 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/10/us/politics/kari-lake-abortion-arizona.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/10/us/politics/kari-lake-abortion-arizona.html)
Kari Lake Called Arizona’s Abortion Ban a ‘Great Law,’ but Now She Denounces It

https://www.axios.com/2024/04/09/kari-lake-arizona-abortion-ban (https://www.axios.com/2024/04/09/kari-lake-arizona-abortion-ban)

    "I oppose today's ruling, and I am calling on [Democratic Gov.] Katie Hobbs and the state Legislature to come up with an immediate commonsense solution that Arizonans can support," Lake said in a statement.
    But Lake said in 2022 that the near-total ban the ruling upholds is a "great law" and said it sets an example for other states.
Biden made dozens of racist remarks during his career and yet somehow he's not racist. ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 11, 2024, 08:29:26 PM
From Agnostic’s preferred polling site. Does Biden strike you as the type who can rally from behind? [No Homo]

I think 538 is trustworthy. They may get some things wrong, but it's not for lack of trying. Just saw an article from Reuters yesterday or the day before that in their most recent poll biden is ahead 4 or 5%. But at no point have I thought this election was a lock for either candidate. I have hope that Trumps sociopathic tendencies and history both business and political as well as indictments, will bring the independents and lazy Democrats out to vote once more, but there is no guarantees. I'm prepared to accept either outcome.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on April 11, 2024, 08:40:24 PM
I think 538 is trustworthy. They may get some things wrong, but it's not for lack of trying. Just saw an article from Reuters yesterday or the day before that in their most recent poll biden is ahead 4 or 5%. But at no point have I thought this election was a lock for either candidate. I have hope that Trumps sociopathic tendencies and history both business and political as well as indictments, will bring the independents and lazy Democrats out to vote once more, but there is no guarantees. I'm prepared to accept either outcome.

I think 538 is too.  I followed Nate Silver when he did the PECOTA projections for Baseball Prospectus.  Just seemed like a guy who loved numbers.

I'm still thinking Biden might not run though.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 11, 2024, 09:00:32 PM
I think 538 is too.  I followed Nate Silver when he did the PECOTA projections for Baseball Prospectus.  Just seemed like a guy who loved numbers.

I'm still thinking Biden might not run though.

First I have heard of this... What is your thought process? He is actively seeking it and "running" as we speak
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 12, 2024, 03:00:00 AM
I think 538 is trustworthy. They may get some things wrong, but it's not for lack of trying. Just saw an article from Reuters yesterday or the day before that in their most recent poll biden is ahead 4 or 5%. But at no point have I thought this election was a lock for either candidate. I have hope that Trumps sociopathic tendencies and history both business and political as well as indictments, will bring the independents and lazy Democrats out to vote once more, but there is no guarantees. I'm prepared to accept either outcome.

You get outlier polls on both sides. That’s why you wanna look at the averages. No way Trump wins the popular by this much:

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on April 12, 2024, 07:18:20 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/12/trump-anti-mail-in-voting (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/12/trump-anti-mail-in-voting)

Campaign toils to convince Republicans to vote early, crucial to winning the election, while ensuring they don’t annoy Trump
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Gym Rat on April 12, 2024, 01:00:49 PM
(https://scontent-bos5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/437033407_10225155577622141_5406181504064385165_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=7mmzKPEbpNkAb4UesPE&_nc_ht=scontent-bos5-1.xx&oh=00_AfArBgw_evG6tXeUOlN35BBtqVgB1dXscPxkharnSG24lA&oe=661F5818)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on April 12, 2024, 06:01:31 PM
First I have heard of this... What is your thought process? He is actively seeking it and "running" as we speak

I'm sure you've heard of reasons why he wouldn't run.

1. One, if Biden polls get too bad, Dems will 25th amendment him or quietly remove him from running (Newsom etc).

2. I personally don't believe he's physically or mentally fit for another term.  You can only blame so many gaffes on a stutter.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on April 12, 2024, 06:15:40 PM
I'm sure you've heard of reasons why he wouldn't run.

1. One, if Biden polls get too bad, Dems will 25th amendment him or quietly remove him from running (Newsom etc).

2. I personally don't believe he's physically or mentally fit for another term.  You can only blame so many gaffes on a stutter.
He's headed to full blown dementia, seriously.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 12, 2024, 10:31:09 PM
I'm sure you've heard of reasons why he wouldn't run.

1. One, if Biden polls get too bad, Dems will 25th amendment him or quietly remove him from running (Newsom etc).

2. I personally don't believe he's physically or mentally fit for another term.  You can only blame so many gaffes on a stutter.

I don't think either are fit. But here we are... I actually haven't heard, I have tried to distance myself from the news and enjoy life. When I was dialed in.. I found I was stressed by it. I kind of keep up on the fringe, as you cannot have a social life and people not mention something about politics. If Dems "25"th him, that wouldn't bug me.. but I would hope both sides were equally concerned for America and it just doesn't seem that way. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 13, 2024, 03:05:38 AM
He's headed to full blown dementia, seriously.

He can’t say a single word that isn’t written for him:

i=9Y9UOXdVP04OlsZC
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on April 13, 2024, 11:22:44 AM
I don't think either are fit. But here we are... I actually haven't heard, I have tried to distance myself from the news and enjoy life. When I was dialed in.. I found I was stressed by it. I kind of keep up on the fringe, as you cannot have a social life and people not mention something about politics. If Dems "25"th him, that wouldn't bug me.. but I would hope both sides were equally concerned for America and it just doesn't seem that way.

I as well rarely  get into it outside of online.

I am more concerned about the apathy in regard to real threats to our democracy - porous border, big tech content manipulation and collusion, dishonest media, DEI/ESI, weaponization of gov't agencies, politicizing of our legal system, judicial activism, and forgetting the lessons of WW2 and 9/11 as we get further away from them.

I wish it wasn't Trump.  But out of the two, I think he is the one who will combat these issues more than the Democrats. In fact, I believe the Democrats are enabling most of them. I believe that party will just do anything to stay in power, and I can point out to more fucked up congressional members on that side of the aisle than the other.  Trump has broken their minds, and they need to get past this and start having more common sense moderates.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on April 13, 2024, 01:04:25 PM
I as well rarely  get into it outside of online.

I am more concerned about the apathy in regard to real threats to our democracy - porous border, big tech content manipulation and collusion, dishonest media, DEI/ESI, weaponization of gov't agencies, politicizing of our legal system, judicial activism, and forgetting the lessons of WW2 and 9/11 as we get further away from them.

I wish it wasn't Trump.  But out of the two, I think he is the one who will combat these issues more than the Democrats. In fact, I believe the Democrats are enabling most of them. I believe that party will just do anything to stay in power, and I can point out to more fucked up congressional members on that side of the aisle than the other.  Trump has broken their minds, and they need to get past this and start having more common sense moderates.
The people on the left crying about Trump have created the drive for him by being so extreme. People are looking for the extreme to battle the extreme and the left has gone so far that people are attracted to Trump because of how he's portrayed. If the left was floating more center then Trump would probably not be a viable option for most people on the right.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 13, 2024, 10:37:58 PM
I as well rarely  get into it outside of online.

I am more concerned about the apathy in regard to real threats to our democracy - porous border, big tech content manipulation and collusion, dishonest media, DEI/ESI, weaponization of gov't agencies, politicizing of our legal system, judicial activism, and forgetting the lessons of WW2 and 9/11 as we get further away from them.

I wish it wasn't Trump.  But out of the two, I think he is the one who will combat these issues more than the Democrats. In fact, I believe the Democrats are enabling most of them. I believe that party will just do anything to stay in power, and I can point out to more fucked up congressional members on that side of the aisle than the other.  Trump has broken their minds, and they need to get past this and start having more common sense moderates.

I have the opposing view. IN the past year the right wing nutcases have made much more noise than the left wing nutcases. Trump in my opinion, will be so focused on defending his "honor" against the onslaught of court cases that you and I will take a back seat. He has made it clear his focus is on himself. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Gym Rat on April 14, 2024, 01:09:09 AM
i=YhiSTONZUMWaeRUI
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 14, 2024, 03:54:58 PM
The people on the left crying about Trump have created the drive for him by being so extreme. People are looking for the extreme to battle the extreme and the left has gone so far that people are attracted to Trump because of how he's portrayed. If the left was floating more center then Trump would probably not be a viable option for most people on the right.

In other words, you are saying that folks on the right, especially MAGA folks are easily manipulated. They will support whomever the left does not.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: mphgrove on April 14, 2024, 04:23:45 PM
It really all boils down to whether the “Trump scares me” factor or “the Biden’s been bad for my pocketbook factor (compared to when Trump was president)” is stronger. And next to that how important the abortion issue plays. I still think abortion has potency and it favors Biden big time, but whether that offsets the other factors, not sure. To me, it is absolutely 50/50 at the moment.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on April 14, 2024, 04:28:05 PM
I have the opposing view. IN the past year the right wing nutcases have made much more noise than the left wing nutcases. Trump in my opinion, will be so focused on defending his "honor" against the onslaught of court cases that you and I will take a back seat. He has made it clear his focus is on himself.

Many of the examples I gave were things this administration is actually doing.  Just look at the Berenson lawsuit, the Twitter files, the government whistleblower testimonies.  The Twitter file stuff should be bigger than watergate, yet the mainstream doesn't even cover it.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 14, 2024, 05:17:31 PM
Many of the examples I gave were things this administration is actually doing.  Just look at the Berenson lawsuit, the Twitter files, the government whistleblower testimonies.  The Twitter file stuff should be bigger than watergate, yet the mainstream doesn't even cover it.

I read that as of last month Jessica G.L. Clarke, US District judge had not determined the merits of this Berenson v. Biden case. Apparently, Clarke is waiting on the Supreme Court's impending decisions in Murthy v. Missouri. Alex Berenson sued his way back on Twitter in 2022. He continues to post on X today.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 14, 2024, 06:25:20 PM
🥊🥊

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 14, 2024, 06:33:02 PM
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=683139.0;attach=1503299;image)

Thanks. Of course a lot can change in a couple of years. President Biden is almost 2 years older than I am.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on April 14, 2024, 07:07:19 PM
I read that as of last month Jessica G.L. Clarke, US District judge had not determined the merits of this Berenson v. Biden case. Apparently, Clarke is waiting on the Supreme Court's impending decisions in Murthy v. Missouri. Alex Berenson sued his way back on Twitter in 2022. He continues to post on X today.

Regardless, the files that had to be released showed the Biden admin actively working with Twitter to censor an individual.

It's one of the defining characteristics of fascism.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on April 14, 2024, 08:57:08 PM
In other words, you are saying that folks on the right, especially MAGA folks are easily manipulated. They will support whomever the left does not.
Is that what you got out of that? Typical lack of reading comprehension. If your reading comprehension is that bad imagine how badly Bidens is?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 15, 2024, 04:23:40 PM
Regardless, the files that had to be released showed the Biden admin actively working with Twitter to censor an individual.

It's one of the defining characteristics of fascism.

Truth.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 15, 2024, 04:35:07 PM
DATA: Just 52% of Biden 2020 Voters Think Joe’s Been ‘Good for America’, 83% of Trump 2020 Voters Say The Same for The Donald.
April 15, 2024
https://thenationalpulse.com/2024/04/14/data-just-52-of-biden-2020-voters-think-joes-been-good-for-america-83-of-trump-2020-voters-say-the-same-for-the-donald/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on April 17, 2024, 12:01:22 PM
Representative Garret Graves (R-La.) when asked about Speaker Mike Johnson’s decision to move ahead with four bills—aid for Ukraine, aid for Israel, aid for Taiwan, and one on related national security matters.

“In a word, no,....    Look, the reality is, you have to keep in mind President Biden asked for Ukraine, President Biden asked for Israel, President Biden asked for aid for Taiwan, and President Biden supports the changes to TikTok. What are Republicans getting out of this?"


Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 17, 2024, 02:14:31 PM
🥊🥊
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on April 17, 2024, 04:48:54 PM
Representative Garret Graves (R-La.) when asked about Speaker Mike Johnson’s decision to move ahead with four bills—aid for Ukraine, aid for Israel, aid for Taiwan, and one on related national security matters.

“In a word, no,....    Look, the reality is, you have to keep in mind President Biden asked for Ukraine, President Biden asked for Israel, President Biden asked for aid for Taiwan, and President Biden supports the changes to TikTok. What are Republicans getting out of this?"
???
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 17, 2024, 10:00:12 PM
Regardless, the files that had to be released showed the Biden admin actively working with Twitter to censor an individual.

It's one of the defining characteristics of fascism.

What's your take on Trump trying to coerce a countries President to open a public investigation into his political opponent?\

Would you say Trumps all out verbal attacks on ANY person either Republican or Democrat who even remotely speaks out against him Fascist?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on April 18, 2024, 12:33:30 PM
???
It is Garret Graves (R-La) that is asking the question
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: B_B_C on April 18, 2024, 12:42:04 PM

https://twitter.com/politicoalex/status/1780674467028427094 (https://twitter.com/politicoalex/status/1780674467028427094)

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/17/trump-campaign-fundraising-five-percent-00152830 (https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/17/trump-campaign-fundraising-five-percent-00152830)

In a letter received by Republican digital vendors this week, the Trump campaign is asking for down-ballot candidates who use his name, image and likeness in fundraising appeals to give at least 5 percent of the proceeds to the campaign
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 18, 2024, 03:44:30 PM
Big mistake getting Joe out in front of the public. He just doesn’t have it. Better to leave him in the basement. Left leaning Reuters has him lower than right leaning Rasmussen.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on April 18, 2024, 05:05:26 PM
Big mistake getting Joe out in front of the public. He just doesn’t have it. Better to leave him in the basement. Left leaning Reuters has him lower than right leaning Rasmussen.
Can you imagine a live debate?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 19, 2024, 01:07:28 AM
Can you imagine a live debate?

I seriously doubt it happens.  I have never seen a national politician as incoherent as Biden is. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 19, 2024, 01:24:11 AM
Data: Joe Biden Faces Serious Threat from Donald Trump Gaining Latino Voters
WENDELL HUSEBØ   17 Apr 2024
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/04/17/data-joe-biden-faces-serious-threat-from-donald-trump-gaining-latino-voters/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 19, 2024, 01:26:13 AM
Makes sense.

WORKING CLASS HERO: Data Reveals Those Who Work Longest Hours Support Trump By Massive Margin.
JACK MONTGOMERY
https://thenationalpulse.com/2024/04/18/working-class-hero-data-reveals-those-who-work-longest-hours-support-trump-by-massive-margin/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 19, 2024, 02:32:17 AM
Can you imagine a live debate?

I don’t see anything other than something super scripted where  Biden can just  regurgitate his stump speech.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on April 19, 2024, 09:06:18 AM
I seriously doubt it happens.  I have never seen a national politician as incoherent as Biden is.
Biden wandering around the stage aimlessly while Trump talks smack about his diaper being full.... ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on April 19, 2024, 12:37:38 PM
What's your take on Trump trying to coerce a countries President to open a public investigation into his political opponent?\

Would you say Trumps all out verbal attacks on ANY person either Republican or Democrat who even remotely speaks out against him Fascist?

Whats your take on Cannibals?   😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣  Fucking idiotic 🤡 Pedo Joe is.

Biden claims his uncle was eaten by cannibals.  Imagine the meltdown if Trump told a ridiculous lie like this.




“He was a hell of an athlete, they tell me, when he was a kid. He flew those single-engine planes as reconnaissance over war zones, and he got shot down in New Guinea. They never found the body because there used to be, there were a lot of cannibals, for real, in that part of New Guinea.”


White House admits Biden uncle wasn’t eaten by cannibals, died in Pacific Ocean crash
By Steven Nelson
Published April 18, 2024
https://nypost.com/2024/04/18/us-news/white-house-admits-biden-uncle-wasnt-eaten-by-cannibals-died-in-pacific-ocean-crash/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 19, 2024, 01:38:54 PM
I seriously doubt it happens.  I have never seen a national politician as incoherent as Biden is.

Personally, it is my hope that President Biden and Trump have a debate as they should. As a voter, I would like to hear from the each of the two candidates exactly what their policies for the next four years are. This way regardless of who wins the election, there is something to measure the successes and failures of 47th Presidency since George Washington became the first President with the unanimous vote of the Electoral College in 1789.   
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on April 19, 2024, 01:45:08 PM
Personally, it is my hope that President Biden and Trump have a debate as they should. As a voter, I would like to hear from the each of the two candidates exactly what their policies for the next four years are. This way regardless of who wins the election, there is something to measure the successes and failures of 47th Presidency since George Washington became the first President with the unanimous vote of the Electoral College in 1789.
Biden would be crushed in a debate, isn't that obvious to you? Come on man, open your eyes!
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Skeletor on April 19, 2024, 01:50:02 PM
Personally, it is my hope that President Biden and Trump have a debate as they should. As a voter, I would like to hear from the each of the two candidates exactly what their policies for the next four years are. This way regardless of who wins the election, there is something to measure the successes and failures of 47th Presidency since George Washington became the first President with the unanimous vote of the Electoral College in 1789.

You are seriously waiting for the debate to hear that? Do you expect them to act on every generic hollow promise they make at a debate? The debates now are more about the image and how the candidate behaves. They offer no policies, just punchlines and soundbites.

I just want the debate to be completely unscripted, no teleprompter, no questions or topics given in advance and a decent moderator who is not afraid to tell either candidate to shut up and turn off the microphone if needed.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 19, 2024, 02:26:13 PM
You are seriously waiting for the debate to hear that? Do you expect them to act on every generic hollow promise they make at a debate? The debates now are more about the image and how the candidate behaves. They offer no policies, just punchlines and soundbites.

I just want the debate to be completely unscripted, no teleprompter, no questions or topics given in advance and a decent moderator who is not afraid to tell either candidate to shut up and turn off the microphone if needed.

That Presidential and other political debates are more about image and perception of the candidate's behavior is a shame. And no, I am not so naive as to hold politicians to their campaign promises. Politicians are known to lie or rather tell people what they want to hear in order to get elected.

Your desire for a debate that is completely unscripted, and one where the candidates do not have an idea what will be asked is unrealistic. I agree in more recent debates candidates have gotten out of line and their mikes should be turned off when they exceed the time limits. Having said this, based on the 2020 Presidential debates, which candidate do you think is the most likely to go off topic and which candidate is more likely to go overtime as the Debates Commission said they would do during the 2020 debates of which there were only two between Biden and Trump and I believe one between Pence and Harris who were more civil, if I remember correctly.
 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on April 19, 2024, 03:14:33 PM
That Presidential and other political debates are more about image and perception of the candidate's behavior is a shame. And no, I am not so naive as to hold politicians to their campaign promises. Politicians are known to lie or rather tell people what they want to hear in order to get elected.

Your desire for a debate that is completely unscripted, and one where the candidates do not have an idea what will be asked is unrealistic. I agree in more recent debates candidates have gotten out of line and their mikes should be turned off when they exceed the time limits. Having said this, based on the 2020 Presidential debates, which candidate do you think is the most likely to go off topic and which candidate is more likely to go overtime as the Debates Commission said they would do during the 2020 debates of which there were only two between Biden and Trump and I believe one between Pence and Harris who were more civil, if I remember correctly.


The debates should be unscripted & no teleprompter - yeah to time limits.
Biden wouldn't have a Fucking clue without a script or ear piece & teleprompter
He'd struggle to answer his name,  mind he could tell all about khol,Mitterrand,Nelson,
Gengis Khan & of course the Cannibals & how his son died in Vietnam.

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 19, 2024, 03:18:52 PM
Biden would be crushed in a debate, isn't that obvious to you? Come on man, open your eyes!

On the other hand, Biden’s tendency lately to fall into the musings of an old man. I do not think Biden would fare well either if he agreed to debate. What we would likely find out is that we have a choice between a crazy person and a senile one. As I have previously said, this year’s election is a fiasco.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on April 19, 2024, 04:42:16 PM
What's your take on Trump trying to coerce a countries President to open a public investigation into his political opponent?\

Would you say Trumps all out verbal attacks on ANY person either Republican or Democrat who even remotely speaks out against him Fascist?
On par with Biden on video threatening to withhold aid unless prosecutors are removed from his sons ass and democrats have been crying fascist or "...obic" about anyone that disagrees with them for years and you support it. Now that Trump does it, it's a problem? Typical hypocritical liberal. ::)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: deadz on April 20, 2024, 10:21:46 AM
On the other hand, Biden’s tendency lately to fall into the musings of an old man. I do not think Biden would fare well either if he agreed to debate. What we would likely find out is that we have a choice between a crazy person and a senile one. As I have previously said, this year’s election is a fiasco.
Indeed, although I believe Trump could turn things around whereas under the Biden Regime things will continue to get worse.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on April 20, 2024, 11:11:59 AM
Biden would be crushed in a debate, isn't that obvious to you? Come on man, open your eyes!

That's what everyone said last time.

But Trump was unprepared, overly belligerent (even more him), and whiffed on some softball questions.

There was no destruction.

Joe will be pumped full of Adderall and prepped.

Not saying Trump shouldn't destroy him, but he just can't wing it again.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on April 20, 2024, 11:16:03 AM
What's your take on Trump trying to coerce a countries President to open a public investigation into his political opponent?\

Would you say Trumps all out verbal attacks on ANY person either Republican or Democrat who even remotely speaks out against him Fascist?

It's the same thing I've said many times here:  It could be viewed as opening an investigation into a political opponent, or could be viewed as opening an investigation into election corruption.  It was up to the Democrats to prove intent (hard to do anytime, let alone this) and they failed.  All they had was "overheard" stuff, but nothing that proved anything.

But remember when they also tried to say it was "quid pro quo".....then they had Joe on video saying he was withholding money unless they fired an investigator?  I guess that's fine?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 20, 2024, 02:41:41 PM
Whats your take on Cannibals?   😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣  Fucking idiotic 🤡 Pedo Joe is.

Biden claims his uncle was eaten by cannibals.  Imagine the meltdown if Trump told a ridiculous lie like this.




“He was a hell of an athlete, they tell me, when he was a kid. He flew those single-engine planes as reconnaissance over war zones, and he got shot down in New Guinea. They never found the body because there used to be, there were a lot of cannibals, for real, in that part of New Guinea.”


White House admits Biden uncle wasn’t eaten by cannibals, died in Pacific Ocean crash
By Steven Nelson
Published April 18, 2024
https://nypost.com/2024/04/18/us-news/white-house-admits-biden-uncle-wasnt-eaten-by-cannibals-died-in-pacific-ocean-crash/

All of us here were calling Biden a comedy act back in 2019.The public is just seeing this now as evidenced by his disastrous approval ratings.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 20, 2024, 03:29:49 PM
Indeed, although I believe Trump could turn things around whereas under the Biden Regime things will continue to get worse.

What things do you think or would you like Trump to turn around? What things will continue to get worse under President Biden?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 20, 2024, 03:35:16 PM
On par with Biden on video threatening to withhold aid unless prosecutors are removed from his sons ass and democrats have been crying fascist or "...obic" about anyone that disagrees with them for years and you support it. Now that Trump does it, it's a problem? Typical hypocritical liberal. ::)

A link to the video of Biden threatening to withhold aid to get prosecutors off his son's back would be helpful. I have not seen it.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on April 20, 2024, 04:55:29 PM
A link to the video of Biden threatening to withhold aid to get prosecutors off his son's back would be helpful. I have not seen it.

Really?

Here's a pre-plastic surgery (his right earlobe is still detached) Biden doing just that.

https://oversight.house.gov/timeline/ukraine-11/biden-firing-ukraine-prosecutor-clip/
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on April 21, 2024, 06:00:41 AM
What things do you think or would you like Trump to turn around? What things will continue to get worse under President Biden?

Stamp on the LBGTRQWDFUYXCGFEQAKLJGD nonsense
Stop the Mutilation of Children
Kick out all the mentally unsound men pretending to be women
in any position of authority.

Just to start with.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 21, 2024, 06:48:25 AM
From 538:

Atrocious Approval Rating at this point. Wonder if the DNC will throw “Joey” overboard?



Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 21, 2024, 09:37:05 AM
https://nypost.com/2024/04/18/lifestyle/shopper-sparks-outrage-after-paying-7-for-a-single-apple/


“Genuinely what economy are we all f–king living in that it costs 7 dollars to buy an apple? I could have sworn that some other like apple that I bought was not 7 f–king dollars. It’s crazy, like 7 dollars for a latte? OK. This apple better be tasting so f–king good.”
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on April 21, 2024, 02:02:57 PM
Really?

Here's a pre-plastic surgery (his right earlobe is still detached) Biden doing just that.

https://oversight.house.gov/timeline/ukraine-11/biden-firing-ukraine-prosecutor-clip/

How much of a bubble must you be in to post about politics and never have seen that?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on April 21, 2024, 02:22:24 PM
How much of a bubble must you be in to post about politics and never have seen that?

Of course Prime Knew about it & no doubt had seen it , just playing his usual game of being
Obtuse & looking to deny it.  ::)  His game has worn really thin now.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on April 21, 2024, 02:45:17 PM
Of course Prime Knew about it & no doubt had seen it , just playing his usual game of being
Obtuse & looking to deny it.  ::)  His game has worn really thin now.

Yeah, I figured he saw it, but since Biden never flat out mentioned his son, it doesn't mean anything.

Kind of like since we haven't seen a chinese man handing over a large bag of money directly to Joe, that's all good there too.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on April 21, 2024, 02:52:10 PM
Yeah, I figured he saw it, but since Biden never flat out mentioned his son, it doesn't mean anything.

Kind of like since we haven't seen a chinese man handing over a large bag of money directly to Joe, that's all good there too.

Yep it is in Primes Mind & several other Libturds on here.
They'll play stupid & deny or Deflect onto Donald  ::)
Its Pathetic how silly they behave - Anything than admit the truth or fact.

Oh & Grab her by the Pussy 2024 👊🏻  🤣😂🤣
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Moontrane on April 21, 2024, 03:40:14 PM
From 538:

Atrocious Approval Rating at this point. Wonder if the DNC will throw “Joey” overboard?

In 2020 Biden benefited from the summer of love Floyd.

What I see this year, though, is the summer of Hamas.  Biden can’t stop Israel from responding to Oct 7th – at least so far - so Biden will lose a lot of the young adult and anti-Israel votes, but they won’t flip to Trump.  RFK jr is pro-Israel, so he won’t get the votes, either.

I thought that Biden would resign after the mid-terms (he still can), but he endures.  A most fascinating election year.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 21, 2024, 03:46:24 PM
Stamp on the LBGTRQWDFUYXCGFEQAKLJGD nonsense
Stop the Mutilation of Children
Kick out all the mentally unsound men pretending to be women
in any position of authority.

Just to start with.

You should send Trump your list. Be aware it is unlikely he will respond to you that since you do not live in the U.S. cannot vote for him and are therefore little use to him. On-the-other-hand if you send Trump a hefty donation for his campaign and legal expenses, including fines and whatnot, he may not completely ignore your request and/or you.   ;)
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 21, 2024, 03:56:28 PM
All of us here were calling Biden a comedy act back in 2019.The public is just seeing this now as evidenced by his disastrous approval ratings.

My guess is that Biden did not and is not giving much thought to those of you on here (Getbig) who think he was and still is a comedy act. And why would he? He won the Presidential election in 2020 without your vote or assistance. Also despite what some of you on Getbig claim, Trump lost the election and today his life is the opposite of a comedy act even with his sleeping and passing stinky gas in court last week.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on April 21, 2024, 04:46:30 PM
How much of a bubble must you be in to post about politics and never have seen that?
And he skipped right over it to respond to a couple of other posts. ;D
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 21, 2024, 05:05:27 PM
In 2020 Biden benefited from the summer of love Floyd.

What I see this year, though, is the summer of Hamas.  Biden can’t stop Israel from responding to Oct 7th – at least so far - so Biden will lose a lot of the young adult and anti-Israel votes, but they won’t flip to Trump.  RFK jr is pro-Israel, so he won’t get the votes, either.

I thought that Biden would resign after the mid-terms (he still can), but he endures.  A most fascinating election year.

He probably would’ve resigned but his VP is the worst DEI hire ever. So, the DNC has to keep literally propping him up.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 21, 2024, 10:18:09 PM
It's the same thing I've said many times here:  It could be viewed as opening an investigation into a political opponent, or could be viewed as opening an investigation into election corruption.  It was up to the Democrats to prove intent (hard to do anytime, let alone this) and they failed.  All they had was "overheard" stuff, but nothing that proved anything.

But remember when they also tried to say it was "quid pro quo".....then they had Joe on video saying he was withholding money unless they fired an investigator?  I guess that's fine?

Nuances matter
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Grape Ape on April 22, 2024, 07:14:42 AM
Nuances matter

Please be specific.

Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 22, 2024, 03:24:17 PM
Please be specific.

When it comes to Trump he breaks out a compound microscope. With Biden, he becomes Stevie Wonder.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 22, 2024, 03:25:49 PM
When it comes to Trump he breaks out a compound microscope. With Biden, he becomes Stevie Wonder.

lol
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: illuminati on April 22, 2024, 04:09:19 PM
When it comes to Trump he breaks out a compound microscope. With Biden, he becomes Stevie Wonder.

Ha ha ha yep great analogy. 
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: chaos on April 22, 2024, 04:37:53 PM
Please be specific.
He won't. You and Dos are far too forgiving with the getlibbers. While I enjoy mocking them and their obsession, I cannot take them serious, nor invest the time to explain to them why they are hypocrites.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 25, 2024, 02:01:47 PM
This is the only reason Biden and his cohorts are trying to put Trump in prison for life.  This lawfare has to backfire or our country is done.

"If Trump were to be convicted on the charges, 21% said they would be less likely to vote for him, 62% said it would not affect their vote and 15% said they would be more likely to vote for him."

New poll shows Biden’s 2024 lead vanishing with Trump on trial
Brandon Gillespie
April 24, 2024
https://news.yahoo.com/poll-shows-biden-2024-lead-235032801.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Dos Equis on April 25, 2024, 02:16:17 PM
Trump holds overall 6-point lead in battleground states: Poll
Filip Timotija
April 24, 2024
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-holds-overall-6-point-131016803.html
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Primemuscle on April 25, 2024, 02:29:22 PM
He won't. You and Dos are far too forgiving with the getlibbers. While I enjoy mocking them and their obsession, I cannot take them serious, nor invest the time to explain to them why they are hypocrites.

Can you explain why you are hypocritical?
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 25, 2024, 06:52:40 PM
Take the GDP and inflation numbers from today and we are "growing" at -2%. Smart money is getting out while the bagholders stuck in their 401ks are looking down the tunnel with the train headlight getting larger and larger.

The Bidenomics economy is "strong as hell" say CNBC, CNN, etc.
Title: Re: The 2024 General Election
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 26, 2024, 12:47:30 AM
Take the GDP and inflation numbers from today and we are "growing" at -2%. Smart money is getting out while the bagholders stuck in their 401ks are looking down the tunnel with the train headlight getting larger and larger.

The Bidenomics economy is "strong as hell" say CNBC, CNN, etc.
Those invested are going to love that 44% capital gains tax.