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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2014, 03:44:36 PM »
How is Cruz going to take over the Senate when McConnell was unanimously elected to be Senate Majority Leader??

Five things to expect in a GOP Senate takeover
November 5, 2014 by NCC Staff

When the Republican Party moves to take over control of the United States Senate in January, life will be different in Washington in some significant ways as a Congress controlled fully by the GOP will need to deal with a lame-duck President.

While it’s impossible to predict what will happen in the next two years, experts who track the often difficult relationship between President Barack Obama and congressional Republicans expect a few certainties in coming months.

Here’s a quick look at five issues to follow as the Republicans get their chance to run the Senate:

1. Mitch McConnell becomes the new Senate Majority Leader. That seems to be a near certainty that McConnell will run for the position with Senator John Cornyn of Texas poised to become the Senate Majority Whip. However, Senator Ted Cruz of Texas hasn’t backed McConnell’s campaign.

2. Ted Cruz will draw lots of attention. Cruz told the Washington Post on Sunday that he will go on the attack against President Obama in the coming year. Cruz wants to hold hearings on “the abuse of power, the executive abuse, the regulatory abuse, the lawlessness that sadly has pervaded this administration.” With Cruz seeking to promote an agenda on his terms, many experts already expect a conflict with McConnell. Interestingly, fellow Tea Party stalwart Rand Paul is a McConnell supporter.

3. Obamacare (or the Affordable Care Act) will come under attack. Cruz already has vowed to take down Obamacare in an extension of Republican tactics used in the House. But with a total repeal of Obamacare problematic at best (see the next item in this list), the Republicans could target specific provisions within Obamacare that they can gain some support from Democrats, too. These targets could include excise taxes on medical devices and the employer mandate fine.

4. President Obama will veto some bills. President Obama has vetoed just two bills in six years, the fewest number of vetos issued since President James Garfield’s brief time in office. The President will most likely have a chance to veto any attempted total repeal of Obamacare and any other core programs he championed in the past six years. The GOP would need a two-thirds supermajority to override any veto.

5. Federal Court nominees will have a tough time getting a nomination vote. Last November, then Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid gutted the Senate’s filibuster rules to get President Obama’s federal court nominees confirmed. But with the GOP controlling the nomination process, it’s unlikely any future Obama nominees will make it far enough for a vote.

One other interesting dynamic pointed out by political observers is that while the GOP had a favorable political map in 2014 for the Senate, the situation could be much different in two years.

In this year’s election, the Democrats defended 21 Senate seats, including six in states that GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney won easily in 2012. In 2016, the Republicans must defend 24 seats, compared to 10 for the Democrats. GOP incumbents are up for re-election.

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2014, 03:57:11 PM »
Ok.  And?  How is he going to take over the Senate when McConnell was unanimously elected Senate Majority leader?  "Unanimous" means Cruz voted for him. 

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« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2014, 08:20:43 PM »
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DHS chief: Obama immigration order 'in final stages'
The Hill ^ | November 15, 2014 | Rachel Huggins
Posted on November 15, 2014 10:48:46 PM EST by jazusamo

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Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson on Saturday reiterated that President Obama's expected action on immigration is in its final planning stages.

"We’re in the final stages of developing some executive actions," Johnson said. "We have a broken immigration system. The more I delve into it, the more problems I see," Reuters reported.

Speaking at the Reagan Presidential Library in California, Johnson told the crowd that the current immigration system has serious problems and to expect comprehensive changes by the end of the year as promised by the president.

Johnson provided few details but said Obama's overhaul would strengthen border security. Republicans, who now control the Senate, have warned Obama that unilateral action on immigration would "poison the well" for bipartisan cooperation.

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« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2014, 09:21:19 AM »

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« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2014, 11:26:58 AM »
so what exactly is the incentive to come here legally now?  ??? ???

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« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2014, 06:52:31 PM »
You not only voted for him but convinced your "whole family" to vote for him, in addition to you knee-padding for him non-stop for the last 6 years makes your above outrage meaningless as you are partly responsible for this.

You helped hire him Rob, so if you are truly outraged, then go look in the mirror for someone to blame.


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« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2014, 08:42:55 AM »
SHOCK FLASHBACK: Obama Says Illegal Immigration HURTS ‘Blue-Collar Americans,’ STRAINS Welfare [VIDEO]

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President Barack Obama once declared that an influx of illegal immigrants will harm “the wages of blue-collar Americans” and “put strains on an already overburdened safety net.”

“[T]here’s no denying that many blacks share the same anxieties as many whites about the wave of illegal immigration flooding our Southern border—a sense that what’s happening now is fundamentally different from what has gone on before,” then-Senator Obama wrote in his 2006 autobiography, “The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream.”

”Not all these fears are irrational,” he wrote.

“The number of immigrants added to the labor force every year is of a magnitude not seen in this country for over a century,” Obama noted. “If this huge influx of mostly low-skill workers provides some benefits to the economy as a whole—especially by keeping our workforce young, in contrast to an increasingly geriatric Europe and Japan—it also threatens to depress further the wages of blue-collar Americans and put strains on an already overburdened safety net.”

If these feel like the words of one of Obama’s opponents, it’s because they’re the exact argument the president’s critics have been making as he now rushes to announce a sweeping executive order that would give work permits to millions of illegal immigrants in the country.

In the passage, Obama also reveals that he personally feels “patriotic resentment” when he sees Mexican flags at immigration rallies.














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“Native-born Americans suspect that it is they, and not the immigrant, who are being forced to adapt” to social changes caused by migration, he said.

“And if I’m honest with myself, I must admit that I’m not entirely immune to such nativist sentiments,” Obama wrote. “When I see Mexican flags waved at pro-immigration demonstrations, I sometimes feel a flush of patriotic resentment. When I’m forced to use a translator to communicate with the guy fixing my car, I feel a certain frustration.”

Obama’s frank statements were written in 2006, as he was eying a run for the presidency.

Those worries are mainstream, according to recent polls. Obama now presides over a very porous southern border, and he’s allowed 130,000 Central American migrants across since October 2013.

Via executive order, he is also about to provide work permits to at least 3 million illegal immigrants, allowing them to compete against the very Americans — black, white, Latino and Asian — who he once said would be harmed by such a move.

The new work permits would be in addition to the 600,000 work permits given to younger illegals under the 2012 “Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals” program.

Roughly 4 million Americans will enter the job market this year.

Careful observers of Obama’s modern-day immigration rhetoric will note that he does not discuss the impact millions of formerly-illegal immigrants would have on the wages of American workers. Rather, Obama has repeatedly declared, “It’s the right thing to do.”

Obama has even justified his planned unilateral amnesty as a border control measure.

“In terms of immigration, I have consistently said that it is my profound preference and interest to see Congress act on a comprehensive immigration reform bill,” he said Nov. 5, at his post-defeat press conference in the White House.

That bill, he said, “would strengthen our borders; would streamline our legal immigration system so that it works better and we’re attracting the best and the brightest from around the world; and that we give an opportunity for folks who’ve lived here, in many cases, for a very long time, may have kids who are U.S. citizens, but aren’t properly documented.”

Obama’s plan reportedly would also allow companies to hire up to 500,000 foreign professionals to compete for jobs sought by the roughly 800,000 Americans who will graduate from universities in 2015, often carrying heavy debts, with degrees in medicine, business, science, math, engineering or architecture.

Back in 2006, Obama dismissed the current guest worker programs as unfair to Americans.

A 2006 immigration bill “included a guest worker program that would allow two hundred thousand foreign workers to enter the country for temporary employment,” he wrote.

“The guest worker provision of the bill troubled me,” Obama wrote, “it was essentially a sop to big business, a means for them to employ immigrants without granting them citizenship rights—indeed, a means for business to gain the benefits of outsourcing without having to locate their operations overseas.”

Obama is already expanding those guest worker programs by at least 100,000 jobs, and he backed the Senate’s 2013 bill that would have boosted the number of guest workers above 1 million each year.

Under current law, the U.S. accept 1 million immigrants and 650,000 non-agricultural guest workers each year. Many of the guest workers stay for six years.

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2014, 10:43:49 AM »
so what exactly is the incentive to come here legally now?  ??? ???

None.   :-\

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« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2014, 06:49:43 AM »
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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2014, 11:07:23 AM »
"Tearing at the very fabric of the Constitution."  He is right. 


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« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2014, 11:17:44 AM »
"Tearing at the very fabric of the Constitution."  He is right. 



Obama does not care!   He is trying to collapse this nation

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2014, 12:32:28 PM »
Most Voters Still Veto Obama’s Immigration Plan
Tuesday, November 18, 2014

President Obama is reportedly about to announce that up to five million illegal immigrants will no longer be subject to deportation, but most voters oppose his plan. The majority, in fact, continue to believe the federal government already isn’t doing  enough to send illegal immigrants back home.

Fifty-six percent (56%) of Likely U.S. Voters think the U.S. government is not aggressive enough in deporting those who are in this country illegally, according to the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. That’s up slightly from 52% in April but down from a high of 60% a year ago. Just 16% believe the government’s deportation policy is too aggressive, while 17% say the number of deportations is about right. Eleven percent (11%) are not sure.  (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Fifty-three percent (53%) oppose the president’s plan to protect up to five million illegal immigrants from deportation and give many of them legal work permits. Thirty-four percent (34%) favor that plan, while 13% are undecided.

Sixty-two percent (62%) of voters already have signaled that they oppose the president granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants without the approval of Congress, and 55% think Congress should challenge that action in court.

But opposition is lower when voters are asked about specifics of Obama’s anticipated plan. For example, voters are evenly divided when asked if illegal immigrants who have lived in this country for five years or more without breaking the law should be exempt from deportation: 40% say yes; 41% say no, but a sizable 20% are undecided.

Thirty-eight percent (38%) believe illegal immigrants who have American-born children should be exempt from deportation. Forty-two percent (42%) disagree and think they still should be deported. But again 20% are not sure.

The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on November 16-17, 2014 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

Republicans have been highly critical of the president’s use of executive orders like the one he is considering on deportation policy, claiming many of them are unconstitutional because he has not gotten congressional approval. House Republicans are already suing the Obama administration for making changes in the national health care law without Congress’ okay.

In late June, a plurality (44%) of voters said the president has been less faithful to the U.S. Constitution than most other presidents. Twenty-two percent (22%) felt Obama has been more faithful to the Constitution than most of his predecessors, while 30% said he has followed the Constitution about the same as other presidents have.

Interest in illegal immigration remains high. Seventy-nine percent (79%) of voters say they have been following recent news reports about the topic, with 40% who are following Very Closely.

Eighty-one percent (81%) of Republicans and 56% of voters not affiliated with either of the major political parties believe the federal government’s current deportation policies are not aggressive enough. But just 33% of Democrats agree.

By a 52% to 31% margin, voters in the president’s party favor his plan to end the deportation threat for up to five million illegal immigrants and to give many of them legal work permits. Seventy-eight percent (78%) of Republicans and unaffiliated voters  by a 52% to 35% margin are opposed.

Opposition among Republican and unaffiliated voters falls when specifics are on the table. Still, most GOP voters and pluralities of unaffiliateds oppose ending deportation for those who have been here illegally for five years or more without breaking the law and those who have American-born children.

Support among Democrats for both exemptions is only slightly higher than their overall approval of the president’s projected plan.

Most voters have said in surveys for several years that a child born to illegal immigrants should not automatically be a citizen of the United States as is the current policy.

Forty-eight percent (48%) of Americans think limiting or ending automatic U.S. citizenship for children born to those who enter the United States illegally will reduce future illegal immigration a lot. Twenty-four percent (24%) say it will help a little, while 20% believe limiting or ending this practice will not reduce illegal immigration at all.

An increasing majority of voters believes gaining control of the border is the most important immigration reform needed, but they think the federal government encourages illegal immigration instead.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/november_2014/most_voters_still_veto_obama_s_immigration_plan

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2014, 02:24:37 PM »
Top Republican floats new attack plan for Obama’s immigration action
Published November 18, 2014
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Add "rescission" to the glossary for the looming immigration fight between congressional Republicans and President Obama.

No need to run to the dictionary -- it's a way for Congress to take back money that it's authorized through legislation. It's also the newest gambit being proposed by a top Republican hoping to undermine the president's expected executive action on immigration, and at the same time avoid a budget fight.

"I don't think any of you folks ever saw a rescission bill, have you?" Rep. Hal Rogers, R-Ky., chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, asked reporters on Tuesday, underscoring how rarely it is employed.

Rogers is pushing the rarely used parliamentary procedure as a middle ground option that essentially would allow lawmakers to pass a spending bill next month -- with a Dec. 11 deadline -- but then allow them to go back later on and strip out any money allocated for Obama's immigration plan.

But the idea has its pitfalls for Republicans, and already has prompted some pushback among conservatives.

While "rescission" would allow Republicans to propose a bill to repeal Obama's immigration funding, like any other bill, it would need to pass both chambers -- including a likely 60-vote threshold in the Senate -- and survive a presidential veto.

Even with control of the House and Senate next year, Republicans likely would not have the votes to override a veto.

"Umm, glaring problem here," a Senate Republican aide told Fox News, in response to Rogers' idea. "A rescission bill isn't some sort of special bill. It's just like most bills. The president would still have to sign a rescission bill. If he vetoed, we'd need 67 votes to defund executive amnesty. So what's being proposed here is giving the president the money and we wouldn't be able to take it back. Nice try."

The aide said the plan would amount to a "capitulation" to the president.

Democrats, meanwhile, immediately rejected the idea.

"Of course I would be against" retroactive spending cuts, House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said Tuesday, when asked about the plan.

Asked about Republican plans to potentially cut funding for immigration changes, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said they "haven't seen any specific proposals" but would not view it "very favorably."

He would not say when the president might act on immigration. But he reiterated the president's pledge that if the House were to ever approve the Senate-passed immigration bill, it would effectively negate Obama's executive action.

"There is a trump card that Republicans hold right now," he said, referring to that scenario.

Meanwhile, Democrats continued to press Obama on Tuesday to take a major step with his immigration actions.

Sens. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., and Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., urged the president in a letter on Tuesday to take "bold, decisive action" on immigration.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/18/top-republican-floats-new-attack-plan-for-obamas-immigration-action/

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #41 on: November 19, 2014, 05:51:09 AM »
Exclusive -- Report: Obama's Executive Amnesty Will Give Illegal Aliens Public Benefits
Brietbart ^ | November 17, 2014 | Matthew Boyle
Posted on November 18, 2014 8:15:37 AM EST by Zakeet

Illegal aliens who get President Barack Obama’s likely forthcoming executive amnesty will have immediate access to welfare and other public benefits, according to a new report from the Federation of American Immigration Reform (FAIR) exclusively provided to Breitbart News ahead of its public release shows.

“Obama’s executive amnesty isn’t only unconstitutional but costly; from day one it opens up federal and state benefits to individuals who are still illegal aliens, regardless of the label the President puts on them,” FAIR executive director Julie Kirchner told Breitbart News.

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #42 on: November 19, 2014, 06:26:15 AM »
My local FOX host was actually praising lawrence odonnell today.  He said Odonnell (a lawyer) has been bashing dems for the past 3 straight days - Obama should NOT be able to create a new working, protected class of workers without congressional legislation.   And that's exactly what happens when he decides no deportation on the offspring of illegals or worse than that, legalizing 5 million people. 

A little surprising to see ODonnell on the conservative side of this issue.  Dems have been blasted on his show all week, according to my FOX host, who was using this to show no Dem could answer how this is even legally constitutionally.  Because it's not.

Frankly, I'm SHOCKED at the lack of outrage from the RIGHT On this issue.  Not on getbig very much, not from congress very much.  At the very least politically - He's about to invite 5 million new voters in (most of them low education, poor, and cetainly dem voters).

If nothing else, he's buying a SHITLOAD of new voters.  How in the world aren't yall screaming about this?  (RINOs, dont answer, you are just gonna accept it anyway).   Conservatives - listen, the dems WILL gain a TON of new voters with this.  Why are you cool with it?  When I heard "I like it" from so many repubs on the other thread - HUH?

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« Reply #43 on: November 19, 2014, 07:21:10 AM »
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/report-obama-sign-executive-amnesty-friday-vegas_819591.html



HERE WE GO - ROT IN HELL YOU AFRICAN COMMUNIST TYRANT AND WORTHLESS FAG

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2014, 07:24:00 AM »
The Las Vegas Review-Journal confirms Obama's visit to Las Vegas on Friday:


President Barack Obama is expected to visit Las Vegas on Friday, stopping here after Republicans swept all top state offices and took control of the Legislature in the Nov. 4 election. ...

Nevada is a battleground state and Obama needs to boost the Democratic Party before the 2016 election where voters will determine who will succeed Obama in the White House. At this point former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is leading the pack even before announcing whether she’s running.

Nevada reporter Jon Ralston suggests the event will be at a local high school:



 
Hearing POTUS coming to Vegas on Friday for speech at Del Sol High School. I wonder what the topic could possibly be at DEL SOL high school.

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« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2014, 07:54:38 AM »
You old white people. It is your duty to die.” -Cebada

PRO-ILLEGAL ALIEN AMNESTY ACTIVISTS SPEAK OUT!

Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets; “Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die … Through love of having children, we are going to take over. ”

Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council. “They’re afraid we’re going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They’re right. We will take them over … We are here to stay.”

Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico, “The American southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot.”

Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas and La Raza founder; “We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population … I love it. They are shitting in their pants with fear. I love it.”

Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party, “Remember 187 — proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens — was the last gasp of white America in California.”

Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor, “We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country … I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, “I’m going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back.”

Mario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations and California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Governor Jerry Brown, also awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton, “California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn’t like it should leave.”

Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General , “We are practicing ‘La Reconquista’ in California.”
Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University; “We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos …”
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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2014, 08:35:41 AM »


Yet this criminal is going to open the flood gates in Vegas to illegals

Rot in Hell Obama you pos

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« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2014, 08:45:02 AM »
Needs to go.....Fox should just send reporters down to Guatemala city and Tegucigalpa Honduras...just walk around and film. That's what you get when u let 8 million retards into your country. And before you fucks say anything about past immigration...walk around Rome, Dublin, Budapest and Berlin.....big friggen difference.
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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
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Rep. Luis Gutierrez Thinks Obama Will Mandate 5-10 Year Residency on Immigration Order
Pajamas Media ^  | 11/19/2014 | Bridget Johnson

Posted on ‎11‎/‎19‎/‎2014‎ ‎11‎:‎54‎:‎20‎ ‎AM by SeekAndFind

Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.), who leads the Immigration Task Force in the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, offered some clues as to what could be in President Obama’s executive order.

“I think the president is going to choose between five and 10 years, that is that you have to be in the United States for five to 10 years and you have to be working here and you are going to pay for a background check,” Gutierrez said on Fox last night. “You’re going to submit your fingerprints and they come back clear. He is going to give you a work authorization for two years and a Social Security card. He’s going to put you on the books paying taxes. And I think he is going to include that before you submit for an application you have roots in America. And I think that’s what he is going to do.”

“But that’s only going to be part. That’s going to be the largest part what he does in the number of people that’s about three million people. But I think what he’s going to do — even he’s going to do stuff for agricultural, farmers in this country, they need a million.”

Gutierrez said “there is no citizenship” in the plan.

“The president has no authority. Only through an act of Congress can they ever be granted citizenship,” he said. “Think of it this way. Here is how I look at it, like is he going to set them aside and say ‘I’m not going to prosecute these people, I’m not going after them so I get to — so I can go after the really bad guys and use the power of the government, the deportations will continue, but go after another.’”

Gutierrez said they won’t be able to sign up for welfare, food stamps and other federal benefits.

“And they can’t get a Pell grant to go to college. They cannot. Obviously we are raising money in our own community to help them, but from private sector,” the congressman said. “No, there won’t be any government benefits. And I just want to make clear to the American public — even the background check, they have to pay. The processing of their documentation, in order to get that work permit, probably will be around $500. There cannot be a cent of tax dollar money used even in granting them the work authorization. They must pay for it out of their pocket.”

He estimated four to five months from the period of Obama’s announcement to when illegal immigrants can start applying for legal status under the order.

Gutierrez suggested locking Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) in a room together until they arrive at a compromise immigration bill. “Let them come back in 45 days,” he said.

“They control the House. They control the Senate,” he said of Republicans in the next Congress. “Tell them to stop whining. Get the legislation done and put it on the president’s desk. That will stop everything.”


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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2014, 09:12:49 AM »
Sounds fair right...all the onus is on the illegal to do the right thing....no citizenship etc. This is how it starts.....not one inch
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