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Title: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 15, 2021, 05:29:38 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/media/critics-slam-psaki-white-houseconsulting-facebook-flag-misinformation

Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: IroNat on July 15, 2021, 05:41:22 PM
Unbelievable.
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 15, 2021, 06:32:38 PM
Awesome.  Now the Trumpturds can go peddle that shit over on Parler and leave the rest of alone. 
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 15, 2021, 08:04:03 PM
Awesome.  Now the Trumpturds can go peddle that shit over on Parler and leave the rest of alone.

It’s doesn’t surprise me that would see this as okay. Did I mention I hate commies?
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: AbrahamG on July 15, 2021, 08:05:45 PM
I'm sure Soros is funding the whole operation. 
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 15, 2021, 08:08:17 PM
I'm sure Soros is funding the whole operation.

Pretty we would be
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: AbrahamG on July 15, 2021, 08:10:15 PM
Pretty we would be

You are either using your phone or you got into Marty's stash of the good stuff!  ;D
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: jude2 on July 15, 2021, 08:15:40 PM
Unbelievable.
I just gets more insane each day.
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 15, 2021, 08:20:14 PM
It’s doesn’t surprise me that would see this as okay. Did I mention I hate commies?

Did I mention I don’t give a fuck what you hate?
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Dos Equis on July 15, 2021, 10:07:33 PM
Awesome.  Now the Trumpturds can go peddle that shit over on Parler and leave the rest of alone.

You think it's awesome for the federal government to work with a private company to censor speech? 
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 15, 2021, 10:10:48 PM
Awesome.  Now the Trumpturds can go peddle that shit over on Parler and leave the rest of alone.


BoB, are U gonna report all of us to the CCP   :P
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 16, 2021, 06:19:05 AM
You think it's awesome for the federal government to work with a private company to censor speech?

Just as much as you think it's awesome for the federal gov't to work with religious dingbats to control a woman's womb.
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Howard on July 16, 2021, 08:21:15 AM
It’s doesn’t surprise me that would see this as okay. Did I mention I hate commies?

We KNOW Trump would never try to tell  a social media platform, what to do. Right? ;)

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-sues-facebook-twitter-google-202709743.html
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 16, 2021, 10:23:52 AM
We KNOW Trump would never try to tell  a social media platform, what to do. Right? ;)

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-sues-facebook-twitter-google-202709743.html

Can you imagine the last days in the WH for Trumpy?  Lost the election (multiple times), lost the popular vote (again), VP and AG "betrayed" him... and the worst part is no social media to whine and cry on.   :D
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Dos Equis on July 16, 2021, 10:44:44 AM
Just as much as you think it's awesome for the federal gov't to work with religious dingbats to control a woman's womb.

When you support the federal government working with private companies to censor free speech and in fact think it is "awesome," you only prove Coach's point when he calls you a socialist/communist.  This is exactly the kind of thing that happens in communist dictatorships. 
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 16, 2021, 10:53:46 AM
When you support the federal government working with private companies to censor free speech and in fact think it is "awesome," you only prove Coach's point when he calls you a socialist/communist.  This is exactly the kind of thing that happens in communist dictatorships.

The fact I think there is a need for accountability for spewing Trumpy's bullshit has absolutely nothing to do with communism.  If Trumpturds can't keep their conspiracy theories away from the rest of us, then someone should reign them in.  If they don't like it, they can start their own social media and wallow in the cesspool together.
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: TheGrinch on July 16, 2021, 10:56:01 AM
Just so everyone knows....


These big monolithic corporations are all owned, financed and operated by the CIA in exchange for making their "founders" billionaires...


Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Dos Equis on July 16, 2021, 10:57:57 AM
The fact I think there is a need for accountability for spewing Trumpy's bullshit has absolutely nothing to do with communism.  If Trumpturds can't keep their conspiracy theories away from the rest of us, then someone should reign them in.  If they don't like it, they can start their own social media and wallow in the cesspool together.

Incredibly myopic thinking.  If you think it's ok for some government official to decide what information should available on privately owned message boards you are supporting authoritarianism.  And what happens when a Republican then tries to make private entities censor speech.  You ok with that too?
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 16, 2021, 11:01:20 AM
Incredibly myopic thinking.  If you think it's ok for some government official to decide what information should available on privately owned message boards you are supporting authoritarianism.  And what happens when a Republican then tries to make private entities censor speech.  You ok with that too?

You mean like Trumpy signing the executive order against social media platform for fact checking his bullshit?
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Dos Equis on July 16, 2021, 11:08:10 AM
You mean like Trumpy signing the executive order against social media platform for fact checking his bullshit?

Don't get it twisted.  Whether facebook is a publisher as opposed to a platform and should have immunity is a different issue.  This is about the federal government telling a private company to censor speech that the government does not like.  So again, are you ok with a Republican using a private entity to censor speech? 
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 16, 2021, 11:14:43 AM
Don't get it twisted.  Whether facebook is a publisher as opposed to a platform and should have immunity is a different issue.  This is about the federal government telling a private company to censor speech that the government does not like.  So again, are you ok with a Republican using a private entity to censor speech?

Are you ok with a Republican using the gov't against a private entity to censor speech?  Did you support Trump using the gov't and executive orders to censor speech on a private entity that he didn't like?

Better yet, if you don't want to be censored, don't post irrational bullshit.
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Dos Equis on July 16, 2021, 11:29:31 AM
Are you ok with a Republican using the gov't against a private entity to censor speech?  Did you support Trump using the gov't and executive orders to censor speech on a private entity that he didn't like?

Better yet, if you don't want to be censored, don't post irrational bullshit.

I'm not in favor of any politician censoring private speech, Republican or Democrat.  Trump never issued executive orders that censored speech by private entities.  So I've answered your question.  Are you ok with a Republican using a private company to censor speech?
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 16, 2021, 11:39:27 AM
I'm not in favor of any politician censoring private speech, Republican or Democrat.  Trump never issued executive orders that censored speech by private entities.  So I've answered your question.  Are you ok with a Republican using a private company to censor speech?

Is that so?

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52843986

Trump signs executive order targeting Twitter after fact-checking row.

I'm just as much ok with a Democrat trying to censor free speech as you are with a Republican trying to censor free speech.  And vice versa.

Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Dos Equis on July 16, 2021, 11:54:58 AM
Is that so?

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52843986

Trump signs executive order targeting Twitter after fact-checking row.

I'm just as much ok with a Democrat trying to censor free speech as you are with a Republican trying to censor free speech.  And vice versa.

Did you actually read the article?  Like I said earlier, this involves whether facebook et al. are publishers versus platforms.  The EO says they should be considered platforms if they are censoring speech.  So the EO actually promotes, not censors, speech.  lol 

I didn't expect you to answer, but I gave it shot.   :)  You fail what Alan Dershowitz calls the "shoe on the other foot test." 
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 16, 2021, 11:59:08 AM
 ::)

Don't want to be censored, don't spread information.   

Don't want to be fact checked, don't tell lies.

Don't want the gov't involved, then don't act outraged when only the other party does it.
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Dos Equis on July 16, 2021, 12:18:30 PM
::)

Don't want to be censored, don't spread information.   

Don't want to be fact checked, don't tell lies.

Don't want the gov't involved, then don't act outraged when only the other party does it.

Want to be a socialist/communist, support the government telling a private entity what information it can and cannot allow people to post on their platforms. 
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Grape Ape on July 16, 2021, 12:41:13 PM
This is a topic where true liberals and conservatives should be in agreement.
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Dos Equis on July 16, 2021, 12:46:02 PM
This is a topic where true liberals and conservatives should be in agreement.

You would think.  But what the past five years has shown me is there are few if any civil libertarians on the left anymore.  There was an "ends justifies the means" to everything that happened. 

Some of the stuff that happened should be offensive to anyone who cares about individual liberty. 
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Grape Ape on July 16, 2021, 12:48:43 PM
You would think.  But what the past five years has shown me is there are few if any civil libertarians on the left anymore.  There was an "ends justifies the means" to everything that happened. 

Some of the stuff that happened should be offensive to anyone who cares about individual liberty.

It's one of my big problems with the left.  Real liberal should be anti big business, but so many who claim to be liberal are clamoring to give tech even MORE power, as long as it's anti-Trump.
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Dos Equis on July 16, 2021, 01:04:43 PM
It's one of my big problems with the left.  Real liberal should be anti big business, but so many who claim to be liberal are clamoring to give tech even MORE power, as long as it's anti-Trump.

And the old liberals supported individual liberties. 

I'm not sure how we put the genie back in the bottle, but we as a country really screwed up by giving big tech so much power.
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Grape Ape on July 16, 2021, 01:18:48 PM
And the old liberals supported individual liberties. 

I'm not sure how we put the genie back in the bottle, but we as a country really screwed up by giving big tech so much power.

The thing is, I don't cast too much blame there.  It all happened so fast, and as a country we don't like to be restrictive.

Even the companies themselves have been caught off guard. If you haven't seen The Social Dilemma, it's worth a watch.  They have facebook employees admitting that stuff they thought was good for folks turned bad.
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Dos Equis on July 16, 2021, 01:51:55 PM
The thing is, I don't cast too much blame there.  It all happened so fast, and as a country we don't like to be restrictive.

Even the companies themselves have been caught off guard. If you haven't seen The Social Dilemma, it's worth a watch.  They have facebook employees admitting that stuff they thought was good for folks turned bad.

Yeah you're right.  I am being a Monday Morning Quarterback.  I think the biggest mistake was giving them immunity as a platform then allowing them to operate as a partisan publisher. 
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Dos Equis on July 16, 2021, 02:27:18 PM
Good grief.  Doubling down on stupid.  And it's not like we didn't just see a prime example of how bad censorship can be.  Facebook refused to allow any discussion about a possible Wuhan/Covid lab leak because it was "misinformation."  Bunch of tyrants.

Twitter explodes after Psaki urges Big Tech to unite on bans for 'misinformation' spreaders
'This is White House directed collusion'
By David Rutz | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/media/twitter-psaki-big-tech-unite-bans-misinformation
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Grape Ape on July 16, 2021, 03:20:06 PM
Good grief.  Doubling down on stupid.  And it's not like we didn't just see a prime example of how bad censorship can be.  Facebook refused to allow any discussion about a possible Wuhan/Covid lab leak because it was "misinformation."  Bunch of tyrants.

Twitter explodes after Psaki urges Big Tech to unite on bans for 'misinformation' spreaders
'This is White House directed collusion'
By David Rutz | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/media/twitter-psaki-big-tech-unite-bans-misinformation

It's unreal.

After the left lost their collective minds in 2016 around fake Russian collusion, they were perfectly comfortable with Facebook/Twitter having a direct influence on our elections with the treatment of the Hunter laptop.

And now this.

There are theories out there that Jon Stewart's rant about the corona virus coming from the lab on the Colbert show was all scripted so to let know it's OK now to start to believe the theory, as it seems it's likely the case.

Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 16, 2021, 04:11:15 PM
Awesome.  Now the Trumpturds can go peddle that shit over on Parler and leave the rest of alone.


BoB, your freedom is sinking daily ............... ::)

Very soon Zucker will microchip U !.
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 16, 2021, 06:48:07 PM

BoB, your freedom is sinking daily ............... ::)

Very soon Zucker will microchip U !.

It’s what all communists want
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 17, 2021, 03:14:00 AM
We KNOW Trump would never try to tell  a social media platform, what to do. Right? ;)

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-sues-facebook-twitter-google-202709743.html

He's suing them for their commie-like behavior.
Are you really that brain-dead Howard? You were a teacher?
No wonder 99% of them are retarded, mindless libs.

You can even stay married for fucks sake.
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 17, 2021, 03:23:42 AM
PakiStinki, Ugly, stupid, commie be-atch...
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: chaos on July 17, 2021, 08:44:50 AM
You think it's awesome for the federal government to work with a private company to censor speech?
I find the hypocrisy amazing (although at this point I shouldn't) that the left spent the last 5 years spreading disinformation on social media about the President and his supporters and absolutely blasted Trump whenever he brought up holding social media platforms responsible, but here we are now and they are encouraging SM platforms to censor speech that they disagree with. WTF? How can any sane person NOT see the hypocrisy?
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Howard on July 17, 2021, 11:17:01 AM
Good grief.  Doubling down on stupid.  And it's not like we didn't just see a prime example of how bad censorship can be.  Facebook refused to allow any discussion about a possible Wuhan/Covid lab leak because it was "misinformation."  Bunch of tyrants.

Twitter explodes after Psaki urges Big Tech to unite on bans for 'misinformation' spreaders
'This is White House directed collusion'
By David Rutz | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/media/twitter-psaki-big-tech-unite-bans-misinformation

We don't always agree  (  No shit ,huh  ;D), BUT you tend to stay on topic and use informative links and coherent analogies.
I'm still undecided on ths Facebook ban issue and really haven't been paying attention.

Thanks for being a good poster that stays on the issue. Oh, I apologize for not reading some of your links.
BUT to be honest, I'm not that interested in some issues.
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Howard on July 17, 2021, 11:22:44 AM
You think it's awesome for the federal government to work with a private company to censor speech?

Agree!

BUT, I also don't want the GOV telling private internet companies who or what they can/can't ban.

I assumed it's  good conservative values to be against  GOV intrusion of any kind into a PRIVATE company.
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 17, 2021, 03:12:26 PM
::)

Don't want to be censored, don't spread information.   

Don't want to be fact checked, don't tell lies.

Don't want the gov't involved, then don't act outraged when only the other party does it.


a) Get real Bob, you are already CENSORED on Face,YouTube,................

b) Facebook & others employ 'fact checkers', inform yourself BoB !.

c) Too late , they already work together !.
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 17, 2021, 06:05:32 PM

a) Get real Bob, you are already CENSORED on Face,YouTube,................

b) Facebook & others employ 'fact checkers', inform yourself BoB !.

c) Too late , they already work together !.

A) I am not censored at all.  Maybe I would be if I posted dumb ass Trumpturd shit.   But since I don't, I don't have to worry.

B) Which is exactly why Trumpy signed the executive order.  He doesn't like his lies exposed and discredited.

C)  Then stop whining.  "!."
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Grape Ape on July 17, 2021, 06:07:18 PM
I find the hypocrisy amazing (although at this point I shouldn't) that the left spent the last 5 years spreading disinformation on social media about the President and his supporters and absolutely blasted Trump whenever he brought up holding social media platforms responsible, but here we are now and they are encouraging SM platforms to censor speech that they disagree with. WTF? How can any sane person NOT see the hypocrisy?

This is perfect.
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: jude2 on July 17, 2021, 08:20:18 PM
I find the hypocrisy amazing (although at this point I shouldn't) that the left spent the last 5 years spreading disinformation on social media about the President and his supporters and absolutely blasted Trump whenever he brought up holding social media platforms responsible, but here we are now and they are encouraging SM platforms to censor speech that they disagree with. WTF? How can any sane person NOT see the hypocrisy?
QFT
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 17, 2021, 09:53:30 PM


A) I am not censored at all.




You must be THE ONLY uncesored BoB North of Rio Grande !.
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 19, 2021, 10:33:39 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/19/facebook-isnt-killing-people-biden-says-as-he-walks-back-attack-over-vaccine-lies.html

Now Biden walking it back


 ::)  ::)
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: WeightPSHR on July 19, 2021, 11:48:00 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/19/facebook-isnt-killing-people-biden-says-as-he-walks-back-attack-over-vaccine-lies.html

Now Biden walking it back


 ::)  ::)

Let me get this straight. Biden is now only blaming the groups/people posting the truth, I mean 'misinformation', but he's not blaming Facebook for allowing the posts??

Like everything else he does, make perfect sense.
Title: Re: White House Consulting With Facebook
Post by: Dos Equis on July 19, 2021, 04:35:06 PM
I find the hypocrisy amazing (although at this point I shouldn't) that the left spent the last 5 years spreading disinformation on social media about the President and his supporters and absolutely blasted Trump whenever he brought up holding social media platforms responsible, but here we are now and they are encouraging SM platforms to censor speech that they disagree with. WTF? How can any sane person NOT see the hypocrisy?

Lingering effects of TDS.