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If women can serve in combat arms positions, why can't they be drafted?
House Freedom Caucus calls on GOP to oppose Defense Authorization Act over female draft
Caucus accused Biden administration of caring more about critical race theory and drafting women than national security
By Jon Brown | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-freedom-caucus-calls-on-gop-to-oppose-defense-authorization-act-over-female-draft
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Stupid and Irrelevant since we don't have a draft
But then stupid and irrelevant is the motto of Fox News
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Yes, since they want equality they should be drafted.
If we ever have a major war the draft will be resumed no question.
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Yes, since they want equality they should be drafted.
If we ever have a major war the draft will be resumed no question.
Not that much😂
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Yes, since they want equality they should be drafted.
If we ever have a major war the draft will be resumed no question.
I'm not sure we will ever need it, given how large our reserve force is, but I think the main issue is whether they should have to register for selective service like all guys do.
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Stupid and Irrelevant since we don't have a draft
But then stupid and irrelevant is the motto of Fox News
Fox was @ Biden & Boris Johnson 'press conference' ;D & ended in a super fuck up ;D ;D ;D
So who is stupid & irrelevant NOW :D :D :D
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If women can serve in combat arms positions, why can't they be drafted?
YES , they serve 2 years in IDF Israel, pro soldiers in Australia,Croatia,France,...........................
YPJ ladies killed more ISIS muslims than than others in Sirya !.
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Define "woman" ... don't you really just mean "a menstruating person"?
If so, sure.
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If women can serve in combat arms positions, why can't they be drafted?
House Freedom Caucus calls on GOP to oppose Defense Authorization Act over female draft
Caucus accused Biden administration of caring more about critical race theory and drafting women than national security
By Jon Brown | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-freedom-caucus-calls-on-gop-to-oppose-defense-authorization-act-over-female-draft
IMO, if there were a draft, no.
There are badass women who serve, but the type of woman required to do that is the exception, not the norm.
Drafting all women would be a colossal waste of time.
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IMO, if there were a draft, no.
There are badass women who serve, but the type of woman required to do that is the exception, not the norm.
Drafting all women would be a colossal waste of time.
They could serve in support roles no problem.
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They could serve in support roles no problem.
Don't care.
Basic training and everything would be a waste.
Don't need the inefficiencies.
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IMO, if there were a draft, no.
There are badass women who serve, but the type of woman required to do that is the exception, not the norm.
Drafting all women would be a colossal waste of time.
Wouldn't those women be weeded out just like men who are unable to serve, just in larger numbers?
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Don't care.
Basic training and everything would be a waste.
Don't need the inefficiencies.
These women disagree...
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Wouldn't those women be weeded out just like men who are unable to serve, just in larger numbers?
Much larger numbers.
I'd say 90%+ or more.
So a waste of time, money, and effort.
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Much larger numbers.
I'd say 90%+ or more.
So a waste of time, money, and effort.
I would think women would be fighting against this kind of prohibition, because it's grounded on the view that they are not qualified. Gender equity.
Wait. Gender is a "social construct."
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I would think women would be fighting against this kind of prohibition, because it's grounded on the view that they are not qualified. Gender equity.
Wait. Gender is a "social construct."
They'd change their tune quickly.
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American women is not like a Israeli IDF female soldiers or YPJ Kurdish fighters !.
Dead muslims never get 72 (virgin) goats if killed by those girls ;D
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They'd change their tune quickly.
I actually want to see how women in general respond to this. Maybe the Village Idiot can provide her perspective?
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IMO, if there were a draft, no.
There are badass women who serve, but the type of woman required to do that is the exception, not the norm.
Drafting all women would be a colossal waste of time.
Look at most males these days that are 18-25.
Same deal.
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I actually want to see how women in general respond to this. Maybe the Village Idiot can provide her perspective?
there are no women board but you are a pussy
you got my response which is the same as it is to most or your moronic posts
Stupid and Irrelevant since we don't have a draft
But then stupid and irrelevant is the motto of Fox News
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Look at most males these days that are 18-25.
Same deal.
Can't argue that.
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Look at most males these days that are 18-25.
Same deal.
Yeah. A lot more would be disqualified today than back in the 60s and 70s.
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Can't argue that.
I agree with your original premise though.
If we drafted 100k women and 100k men.
Far more women wouldn't make the cut.
It would be a disaster.
I doubt this will ever happen in this age of military technology.
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Yeah. A lot more would be disqualified today than back in the 60s and 70s.
A lot of my friend's kids are reaching the 15-20 age range.
It amazes me how weak and stupid they are.
My good friend's son is 18 and has never cut the grass or changed a tire before. Knows nothing outside of video games and movies.
Kind of scary.
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I agree with your original premise though.
If we drafted 100k women and 100k men.
Far more women wouldn't make the cut.
It would be a disaster.
I doubt this will ever happen in this age of military technology.
Should that really be the standard though? I understand the efficiency argument. What about fairness?
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A lot of my friend's kids are reaching the 15-20 age range.
It amazes me how weak and stupid they are.
My good friend's son is 18 and has never cut the grass or changed a tire before. Knows nothing outside of video games and movies.
Kind of scary.
Very scary. I've been complaining for years about how we are raising a generation of sissies. And that has nothing to do with being gay. It's about treating masculinity like it's a bad thing. Preventing kids from having to learn how to deal with stress and adversity. Creating "safe spaces." It's terrible.
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Should that really be the standard though? I understand the efficiency argument. What about fairness?
Oh i believe that women absolutely should be drafted.
It's fair and we live in world of fairness, well kind of.
Think about this, you draft 100k men from Alaska and 100k men from Maryland.
Who's going to be the better pick?
Might not be the best example, but you get my point?
Or 100k men from west Texas country and 100k men for urban NYC or Chicago?
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Oh i believe that women absolutely should be drafted.
It's fair and we live in world of fairness, well kind of.
Think about this, you draft 100k men from Alaska and 100k men from Maryland.
Who's going to be the better pick?
Might not be the best example, but you get my point?
Or 100k men from west Texas country and 100k men for urban NYC or Chicago?
I understand and I agree.
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Very scary. I've been complaining for years about how we are raising a generation of sissies. And that has nothing to do with being gay. It's about treating masculinity like it's a bad thing. Preventing kids from having to learn how to deal with stress and adversity. Creating "safe spaces." It's terrible.
It's insane.
Stress and adversity are parts of life.
You learn to deal with it and move on.
It's crazy how dulled down Americans have become.
There is nothing wrong with being masculine.
My cousin has 3 boys and they live in the country of central Texas. They are raised like men and act like adults as teenagers. It's crazy how much differently they act. Very mature and proper. I'd hate to see them treated badly by our new weakened society of soy boys.
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It's insane.
Stress and adversity are parts of life.
You learn to deal with it and move on.
It's crazy how dulled down Americans have become.
There is nothing wrong with being masculine.
My cousin has 3 boys and they live in the country of central Texas. They are raised like men and act like adults as teenagers. It's crazy how much differently they act. Very mature and proper. I'd hate to see them treated badly by our new weakened society of soy boys.
That's how it should be.
But why you gotta bring up soy? I'm a vegetarian. lol :)
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That's how it should be.
But why you gotta bring up soy? I'm a vegetarian. lol :)
LOL!
Just a point of reference.
I'm sure you are not one of "them". ;D
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LOL!
Just a point of reference.
I'm sure you are not one of "them". ;D
It brings up one of the defects of the college system where kids go away for four years and hang around with no one except people their own age. When they come out, they don’t have experience dealing with adults and as a result they’re still kids.
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If the U.S. had a draft, the yes everyone in decent health of a certain age should be required to participate in it as is the case in many other countries such as, in Israel which has 'conscription' for all Israeli citizens over the age of 18 who are Jewish regardless of gender. Other countries with conscription for all are Norway, Sweden, Moracco, Columbia and North Korea. Many Countries have mandatory national service, like Nigeria, Germany, and Denmark. These are just a few of the countries around the globe that require their citizens to serve in some way. In total, about seventy-five countries have some form of mandatory service.
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If the U.S. had a draft, the yes everyone in decent health of a certain age should be required to participate in it as is the case in many other countries such as, in Israel which has 'conscription' for all Israeli citizens over the age of 18 who are Jewish regardless of gender. Other countries with conscription for all are Norway, Sweden, Moracco, Columbia and North Korea. Many Countries have mandatory national service, like Nigeria, Germany, and Denmark. These are just a few of the countries around the globe that require their citizens to serve in some way. In total, about seventy-five countries have some form of mandatory service.
In Nigeria they chop-chop people like you ;D
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In Nigeria they chop-chop people like you ;D
Which has what to do with whether women are subject to the draft? Oh, nothing. Get over yourself.
Being as how you are obviously homophobic, you should definitely move to Nigeria where although there are gay people, most downplay it so, you should feel safe from "gay infection". ::) ::)
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LOL!
Just a point of reference.
I'm sure you are not one of "them". ;D
Oh definitely not. I broke the mold with the whole vegetarian thing. I don't look like the typical plant eater. ;D
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If the U.S. had a draft, the yes everyone in decent health of a certain age should be required to participate in it as is the case in many other countries such as, in Israel which has 'conscription' for all Israeli citizens over the age of 18 who are Jewish regardless of gender. Other countries with conscription for all are Norway, Sweden, Moracco, Columbia and North Korea. Many Countries have mandatory national service, like Nigeria, Germany, and Denmark. These are just a few of the countries around the globe that require their citizens to serve in some way. In total, about seventy-five countries have some form of mandatory service.
Good point about other countries with drafts and mandatory service for females.
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Oh i believe that women absolutely should be drafted.
It's fair and we live in world of fairness, well kind of.
Think about this, you draft 100k men from Alaska and 100k men from Maryland.
Who's going to be the better pick?
Might not be the best example, but you get my point?
Or 100k men from west Texas country and 100k men for urban NYC or Chicago?
Urban Chicago kids would be way better at shooting people.
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Urban Chicago kids would be way better at shooting people.
No they wouldn't. They miss quite a bit. Lots of collateral damage. Their accuracy sucks.
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No real man wants to see their daughters, or anyone else's, drafted, "fair" or not.
Fuck that. We have to be better than the idiots out there.
For the women who want that life, and are qualified, they can volunteer.
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No real man wants to see their daughters, or anyone else's, drafted, "fair" or not.
Fuck that. We have to be better than the idiots out there.
For the women who want that life, and are qualified, they can volunteer.
I don't think it's fair to question someone's manhood over their position on this. Reasonable minds can disagree. I think there are good arguments on both sides. And the fact they do this is in countries like Israel, who has a solid armed force, is telling.
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If it is to go fight a fake war for the military industrial complex cartels then draft everyone equally.
If it is for a real defensive war then no because I'd actually care about us winning it.
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Yes, since they want equality they should be drafted.
If we ever have a major war the draft will be resumed no question.
You would not be able to have a draft in 2021 no one would go everyone would say no. The world has changed. If you want soldiers you need to offer enough money to get people to volunteer
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I don't think it's fair to question someone's manhood over their position on this. Reasonable minds can disagree. I think there are good arguments on both sides. And the fact they do this is in countries like Israel, who has a solid armed force, is telling.
Not directly aimed at you, but in general.
Israeli women are a different breed, and it's a small country.
Just not feasible across our country, and I don't see the benefit.
Yes, I'm being old school double standard-y here, but it's just how I feel.
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No they wouldn't. They miss quite a bit. Lots of collateral damage. Their accuracy sucks.
That's a good thing. If they were highly trained it would be a bloodbath.
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Not directly aimed at you, but in general.
Israeli women are a different breed, and it's a small country.
Just not feasible across our country, and I don't see the benefit.
Yes, I'm being old school double standard-y here, but it's just how I feel.
I didn't think you were attacking me and I don't take anything said on this board personally.
I don't fault you for having a strong opinion against women being drafted. I posted this thread by asking the question because I wanted to hear different perspectives.
Part of me thinks like you: I don't want to see women forced onto the battlefield to fight wars started by men. Part of me thinks it's a fairness issue and women should be subjected to the same standard as men, so long as they can meet the physical qualifications.
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That's a good thing. If they were highly trained it would be a bloodbath.
Right?
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Which has what to do with whether women are subject to the draft? Oh, nothing. Get over yourself.
Being as how you are obviously homophobic, you should definitely move to Nigeria where although there are gay people, most downplay it so, you should feel safe from "gay infection". ::) ::)
Nah, just hate U !.
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Nah, just hate U !.
How unfortunate for you. Hate is a strong emotion, save it for someone you actually know and have had a negative interaction with.
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Part of me thinks it's a fairness issue and women should be subjected to the same standard as men, so long as they can meet the physical qualifications.
I don't necessarily 100% disagree with this statement, moreso that the draft is a completely inefficient method to accomplish this, given the reasons I stated.
But if pushed, I would still stick to I don't really care about the "fair".
Men and women are just different, no matter how often we get blasted by the vocal blue haired twitter minority that they are the same at everything.
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I don't necessarily 100% disagree with this statement, moreso that the draft is a completely inefficient method to accomplish this, given the reasons I stated.
But if pushed, I would still stick to I don't really care about the "fair".
Men and women are just different, no matter how often we get blasted by the vocal blue haired twitter minority that they are the same at everything.
No argument there.
We need to keep in mind that if there is a draft that will mean we are in one or two major conflicts/wars, and that essentially all of our 1 million reservists were already activated, along most of the 400,000+ national guardsmen. So it's highly unlikely. But if the draft is necessary it will only be because we need all hands on deck.
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How unfortunate for you. Hate is a strong emotion, save it for someone you actually know and have had a negative interaction with.
>>> YOU <<<
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Hawley moving to block Dem attempts to include women in military draft
A congressionally-mandated commission backed the idea last year.
By Sam Dorman | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hawley-block-dem-attempts-women-military-draft
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No argument there.
We need to keep in mind that if there is a draft that will mean we are in one or two major conflicts/wars, and that essentially all of our 1 million reservists were already activated, along most of the 400,000+ national guardsmen. So it's highly unlikely. But if the draft is necessary it will only be because we need all hands on deck.
Women have no business in a foxhole unless it's to cook meals or have sex with the troops.
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Women have no business in a foxhole unless it's to cook meals or have sex with the troops.
:o
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Congress is on verge of including women over 18 in the military draft: Republicans slam bid that could pass next week as a bid to further 'ridiculous' political equality 'row'
The provision is included in this year's National Defense Authorization Act
The NDAA passed the House with a decisive 316-113 vote back in September
It was also approved by the Senate Armed Services Committee this summer
Bill text would replace 'male' with the gender-neutral term 'person'
A phrase in the Selective Service terms banning discrimination based on 'race or color' will be updated with the more progressive 'race, color, sex, or gender'
Chuck Schumer told fellow senators in a letter the NDAA may come up this week
By ELIZABETH ELKIND, POLITICS REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 18 November 2021
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10212637/Congress-verge-including-women-18-military-draft-Bill-pass-Senate-week.html