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Gas Prices May Reach $7 Per Gallon
The New American ^ | 3/8/2010 | Rebecca Terrell

Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:19:07 AM by IbJensen

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President Obama's fiscal year 2010 EPA budget calls for carbon reductions that would require raising the cost of gasoline to $7 per gallon within the next 10 years. A report released this month by Harvard University's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs explained that for Obama to reach his goal, he would need to employ a one-two punch approach, hitting both utility and transportation sectors with strong emissions-reducing taxes.

The Belfer Center report, Reducing the U.S. Transportation Sector's Oil Consumption and Greenhouse Gas Emissions, criticizes Obama's current plan as short-sighted. "Reducing oil consumption and carbon emissions from transportation is a much greater challenge than conventional wisdom assumes," warns the report. It also says subsidies for alternatives such as electric and hybrid vehicles are "extremely expensive and ... ineffective" in the short term.

But don't let their criticisms fool you. The authors of the report call for aggressive climate change policies and illogically conclude, "Even under high-fuels-tax, high-carbon price scenarios, losses in annual GDP, relative to business-as-usual, are less than 1 percent, and the economy is still projected to grow at 2.1 – 3.7 percent per year assuming a portion of revenues collected are recycled to taxpayers."

Ignoring recent revelations that EPA's greenhouse-gas "endangerment finding" is based on fraudulent data, the report proposes several scenarios which the authors claim will reduce so-called emissions from the transportation sector without significant harm to the economy. The scenarios involve an economy-wide carbon dioxide tax set at $30 per ton in 2010 and escalating to $60 per ton in 2030. The Belfer Center says it would be "a surrogate for a cap-and-trade system like that proposed in the pending American Clean Energy and Security Act." The reference is to H.R. 2454, passed by the House last June and now before the Senate in the form of S. 1733. Many Democrats have suffered in the polls because of their support of these bills, leading Obama to begrudgingly admit final passage is unlikely.

Harvard's solution (in characteristic socialist fashion) is adding to a cap-and-trade tax one or more of the following:

1. Income tax reductions to offset the burden of a carbon tax on consumers. The authors note there is no such provision in the American Clean Energy and Security Act, but claim including it would significantly reduce economic impacts. 2. A "strong" gasoline and diesel tax of $0.50 per gallon this year, increasing by 10 percent per year to reach a $3.36 per gallon tax in 2030. 3. Improvements in Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards to 43.7 miles per gallon by 2030.

The authors argue an economy-wide carbon tax alone would provide little incentive to the transportation sector to curb emissions. Electric utilities would be more adversely affected since they rely more heavily on coal. Therefore, the suggested "additions" listed above are necessary because taxing consumers is the only way to reduce oil consumption and its accompanying greenhouse gas emissions.

The report advises if Obama wants to reduce both emissions and petroleum imports, "consumers cannot continue to drive more and more each year." That is why, according to the authors, electric and hybrid vehicles don't measure up — they only encourage more driving. The report argues, "The most effective policy for reducing CO2 emissions and oil imports from transportation is to spur the development and sale of more efficient vehicles with strict efficiency standards while increasing the cost of driving with strong fuel taxes."

It ends with the ominous warning that greenhouse gas emissions will continue to grow if the report's suggestions go unheeded.


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Re: Gas Prices May Reach $7 Per Gallon under Obama's EPA rules.
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2010, 06:55:03 AM »
That should help the economy.

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Re: Gas Prices May Reach $7 Per Gallon under Obama's EPA rules.
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2010, 06:57:21 AM »
By the way I want MORE emmisions!!!!More emmisions means a thriving economy.THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2010, 06:59:34 AM »
By the way I want MORE emmisions!!!!More emmisions means a thriving economy.THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i know a few "green" cultists and they are truly dangerous people.  They are so removed from reality its not even funny. 

Most have the mentality of 10 y/o children at best with their insanity. 

Obama is no different.   

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Re: Gas Prices May Reach $7 Per Gallon under Obama's EPA rules.
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2010, 07:02:36 AM »
Your wrong.Many of the enviro kooks really believe in their cause.Obama simply uses it as another vehicle to destroy America.The same with health care.He couldnt care less about the uninsured.He uses it as another way to expand government to totally controll everything we do.Obama is far more devious and disshonest then almost anyone in the country.

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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2010, 07:06:47 AM »
Your wrong.Many of the enviro kooks really believe in their cause.Obama simply uses it as another vehicle to destroy America.The same with health care.He couldnt care less about the uninsured.He uses it as another way to expand government to totally controll everything we do.Obama is far more devious and disshonest then almost anyone in the country.

Oh I agree, his little rabble rousing speech yesterday was so packed with lies I wanted to shoot the radio with the garbage he was spewing.

other than 240, blacken, mons, and Benny and Straw does anyone believe anything this fool says anymore?

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Re: Gas Prices May Reach $7 Per Gallon under Obama's EPA rules.
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2010, 07:30:39 AM »
i wonder if bammer and his commie buddies think that humans have a right to gas too  then it will be included in gov programs

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Re: Gas Prices May Reach $7 Per Gallon under Obama's EPA rules.
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2010, 07:32:07 AM »
hahaha


Leaked documents reveal GOP plan to use scare tactics to raise money



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1217


sound fimiliar

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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2010, 07:37:07 AM »
hahaha


Leaked documents reveal GOP plan to use scare tactics to raise money



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1217


sound fimiliar

Who said this "we must pass the stimulus NOW or the country will be in a depression" .Who is this "we must pass health care now or people will die on the streets".

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Re: Gas Prices May Reach $7 Per Gallon under Obama's EPA rules.
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2010, 07:38:36 AM »
oooh  but billy  thats bushes fault,  and palins down syndrome baby,   and it snowed  last week  lol ;D

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Re: Gas Prices May Reach $7 Per Gallon under Obama's EPA rules.
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2010, 07:40:06 AM »
Who said this "we must pass the stimulus NOW or the country will be in a depression" .Who is this "we must pass health care now or people will die on the streets".


no one said nothin about dying in the streets...But the stimulus needed to happen...

Death Panel's....hjahahahahahahahaha ha

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Re: Gas Prices May Reach $7 Per Gallon under Obama's EPA rules.
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2010, 07:45:14 AM »
the stim bill only needed to happen  for crooked congressmen and businesses, and the worthless gov aid recipients,    the middle class, the private sector and small business didnt need it

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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2010, 07:47:09 AM »

no one said nothin about dying in the streets...But the stimulus needed to happen...

Death Panel's....hjahahahahahahahaha ha

MAL - WAKE THE HELL UP DUDE.  


I posted the direct link from the commission set to do this claiming this was what they wanted and were planning for.  

But keep buying into Obama's lies, maybe when you are stuck 250k in the hole and working at the DMV 10 years from now with lines of screaming welfare patients you will remember what I told you.  

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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2010, 07:51:13 AM »
MAL - WAKE THE HELL UP DUDE.  


I posted the direct link from the commission set to do this claiming this was what they wanted and were planning for.  

But keep buying into Obama's lies, maybe when you are stuck 250k in the hole and working at the DMV 10 years from now with lines of screaming welfare patients you will remember what I told you.  


Dude...You do this..Make a conclusion...then only highlight factors and events that support your predetermined conclusion. And i know you are smarter than that. I, for the life of me cant understand why you choose to do this. Go with the polarizing hysteria like an old ass woman. Its just sad to be perfectly honest

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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2010, 07:54:21 AM »

Dude...You do this..Make a conclusion...then only highlight factors and events that support your predetermined conclusion. And i know you are smarter than that. I, for the life of me cant understand why you choose to do this. Go with the polarizing hysteria like an old ass woman. Its just sad to be perfectly honest

I'll tell you what, I will post the direct link again from the direct source for this and when you are paying $7.00 a gallon you can remember this. 

Face it bro - you were utterly duped, and still are, into supporting this asshole in the WH who DOESNT GIVE A FLYING FUCK ABOUT YOU! 

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Re: Gas Prices May Reach $7 Per Gallon under Obama's EPA rules.
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2010, 07:55:39 AM »
actually they are not lies,  bammer flat out told us that all energy costs would sky rocket,  and gas is a source of energy.

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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2010, 07:56:05 AM »

no one said nothin about dying in the streets...But the stimulus needed to happen...

Death Panel's....hjahahahahahahahaha ha

The democrats have been saying people are dying for the last year.Yet they want to wait for 4 years to push throufgh their dumb ass health care scheme.A scare tactic.The stimulus has not created ONE job.It was a payoff to unions.Obamas entire campaign was based on fear "UUHHHH this is the worst  ahhhhh economy ummmmmm since  ahhhhh the great depression".Really?Worse then Carters economy?Every scheme he has is done by fear,health care,cap and trade,card check everything he wants is pushed through by fear.

Palin,when she said that ,was not in office.How about Joe Biden warning people not to fly or saying Obama will be tested etc. Democrats live on fear.They demonise the other side by saying "they want to kill old people".Its the only way they can win.They win by lying and fear.NOT ONE democrat EVER runs saying "IM A LIBERAL WHO WANTS MORE GOVERNMENT".

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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2010, 07:58:08 AM »
Mal - is the NYT a fringe source?  

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March 2, 2010, 6:35 pm
Fuel Taxes Must Rise, Harvard Researchers Say
By SINDYA N. BHANOO


To meet the Obama administration’s targets for cutting greenhouse gas emissions, some researchers say, Americans may have to experience a sobering reality: gas at $7 a gallon.

To reduce carbon dioxide emissions in the transportation sector 14 percent from 2005 levels by 2020, the cost of driving would simply have to increase, according to a report released Thursday by researchers at Harvard’s Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs. The research also appears in the March edition of the journal Energy Policy.

The 14 percent target was set in the Environmental Protection Agency’s budget for fiscal 2010.

In their study, the researchers devised several combinations of steps that United States policymakers might take in trying to address the heat-trapping emissions by the nation’s transportation sector, which consumes 70 percent of the oil used in the United States.

Most of their models assumed an economy-wide carbon dioxide tax starting at $30 a ton in 2010 and escalating to $60 a ton in 2030. In some cases researchers also factored in tax credits for electric and hybrid vehicles, taxes on fuel or both.

In the modeling, it turned out that issuing tax credits could backfire, while taxes on fuel proved beneficial.

“Tax credits don’t address how much people use their cars,” said Ross Morrow, one of the report’s authors. “In reverse, they can make people drive more.”

Dr. Morrow, formerly a fellow at the Belfer Center, is a professor of mechanical engineering and economics at Iowa State University

Researchers said that vehicle miles traveled will increase by more than 30 percent between 2010 and 2030 unless policymakers increase fuel taxes.


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I guess this is made up Mal?  Wake up moron.


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Re: Gas Prices May Reach $7 Per Gallon under Obama's EPA rules.
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2022, 08:08:26 AM »
Here we go!   Own it libs in California



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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2022, 08:36:32 AM »
You'll be sorry you bought that Ford F-150.