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Title: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 21, 2006, 12:09:41 PM
the last 2 weeks its been 65 degrees here in wash DC
Heithrow airport is shutdown cause of dense fog

denver is in shutdown..snow!

this is just the beginning


Bush refused to sign the kyoto treaty  :)

http://www.climatehotmap.org/


its starting!
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: 240 is Back on December 21, 2006, 12:19:56 PM
Have you seen "An Inconvenient Truth'?

Pretty darn interesting.  I am sure the earth works in cycles, as critics say.  But if this cycle is pushed a little further than it should, and that melting at greenland and antarctica continues at this rate, my florida cracka ass is moving north. 

The media doesn't talk about the issue, so people consider it non-important.  but there would be some monster refugee crisises should it happen quickly, and even those landlocked bastards will see their stocks fall and neighborhoods fill as the world adjusts.
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: sandycoosworth on December 21, 2006, 12:23:54 PM
global warming is pretty sweet ... were enjoying an unusually mild winter up here in toronto ;D
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: Camel Jockey on December 21, 2006, 12:24:30 PM
Some ranting conservative will post soon saying "what proof do you have" and "i don't see any immediate effects" hahaha

Global warming is very real.
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 21, 2006, 12:33:04 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2565436963450479963&q=global+warming


the idiots that will come counter are the ones i hope die first cause of the weather changes...

actually i hope their relatives die first...



yanno..kinda get a first hand on what people in africa and bengal have been feeling for the past 5 yrs..
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: Diesel1 on December 21, 2006, 12:37:21 PM
global warming is pretty sweet ... were enjoying an unusually mild winter up here in toronto ;D

Yep, mild here too






Which is nice  :)
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: Diesel1 on December 21, 2006, 12:40:50 PM
Have you seen "An Inconvenient Truth'?

Pretty darn interesting.  I am sure the earth works in cycles, as critics say.  But if this cycle is pushed a little further than it should, and that melting at greenland and antarctica continues at this rate, my florida cracka ass is moving north. 

The media doesn't talk about the issue, so people consider it non-important.  but there would be some monster refugee crisises should it happen quickly, and even those landlocked bastards will see their stocks fall and neighborhoods fill as the world adjusts.

Interesting that you should say that, we (the UK) get it rammed down our throats constantly.
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: Camel Jockey on December 21, 2006, 12:41:01 PM
Yep, mild here too






Which is nice  :)

England might get a deep freeze in the near future, espeically if the oceanic conveyor belt is disrupted.
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: kh300 on December 21, 2006, 12:48:05 PM
 i used to actually believe in this,, ive very liberal when it comes to the environment. but when i went back to school to get my masters i had to take an astrology course. the professor used to work for a company that researched this stuff. last year was one of the coldest and snowiest years in history. he said the o-zone layer is so big that it would take millions of years to do any damage. i also learned about how our atmosphere is able to 'heal' itself. look at what our world has gone through. huge wild fires, earthquakes, hurricanes, meteor strikes,,the list gos on. someone driving an suv wont stop the rotation of the earth.
but, i like people that believe in this. its better for the environment and it keeps us aware.
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 21, 2006, 12:49:29 PM
Yep, mild here too






Which is nice  :)


ummm AHEM..for someone thats at the same Latitude at greenland..youuu shound't be talking..


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3745591.stm


and its showing signs of shutting down

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_of_thermohaline_circulation


http://faculty.washington.edu/wcalvin/teaching/Broecker99.html
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 21, 2006, 12:51:58 PM
i used to actually believe in this,, ive very liberal when it comes to the environment. but when i went back to school to get my masters i had to take an astrology course. the professor used to work for a company that researched this stuff. last year was one of the coldest and snowiest years in history. he said the o-zone layer is so big that it would take millions of years to do any damage. i also learned about how our atmosphere is able to 'heal' itself. look at what our world has gone through. huge wild fires, earthquakes, hurricanes, meteor strikes,,the list gos on. someone driving an suv wont stop the rotation of the earth.
but, i like people that believe in this. its better for the environment and it keeps us aware.


ummmm dumbass


http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=global+dimming
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: youandme on December 21, 2006, 01:30:23 PM
i used to actually believe in this,, ive very liberal when it comes to the environment. but when i went back to school to get my masters i had to take an astrology course. the professor used to work for a company that researched this stuff. last year was one of the coldest and snowiest years in history. he said the o-zone layer is so big that it would take millions of years to do any damage. i also learned about how our atmosphere is able to 'heal' itself. look at what our world has gone through. huge wild fires, earthquakes, hurricanes, meteor strikes,,the list gos on. someone driving an suv wont stop the rotation of the earth.
but, i like people that believe in this. its better for the environment and it keeps us aware.

Pull your head out of your professor's ass.
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: a_joker10 on December 21, 2006, 02:34:29 PM
Mr Toxic.
Since Wraming isn't a word, you are right. :o

But the actually core temperature of the earth has raised almost 1 degree since 1900.

The earth is getting warmer, but how much is human influence no one knows.

BTW, unless rich developed countries start sharing technology, we are screwed.
China is going to have around 200 coal fired power plants in operation in the next 20 years.
India will follow suit.

We will be screwed by more things than global warming, if we don't share technology.

I am actually working on geothermal power plant design right now. Hopefully we can get funding to build it.
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: AlliedPowers on December 21, 2006, 02:35:54 PM
I am actually working on geothermal power plant design right now. Hopefully we can get funding to build it.

careful, or you may share the fate of the men who continue to invent the fully functional, non-gasoline car...

 :'(
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: a_joker10 on December 21, 2006, 02:45:30 PM
careful, or you may share the fate of the men who continue to invent the fully functional, non-gasoline car...

 :'(

Actually we are using government money to do this.
It should be fun.
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: kh300 on December 21, 2006, 03:47:56 PM
nobody has said pollution has caused the earths temperature to rise. its just a theory. like i said,, if you believe in it, then good.. im very liberal about the environment. i'm all about doing everything we can to stop pollution,, but i also believe 'global warming' is a scare tactic to get others that dont care about the environment aware that we can hurt the environment.
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 21, 2006, 03:58:17 PM
Mr Toxic.
Since Wraming isn't a word, you are right. :o


I am actually working on geothermal power plant design right now. Hopefully we can get funding to build it.


GASP..you caught a typing error...


you r a brilliant man...

i suspect you shall solve the world energy needs single handedly  8)
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 21, 2006, 03:59:22 PM
nobody has said pollution has caused the earths temperature to rise. its just a theory. like i said,, if you believe in it, then good.. im very liberal about the environment. i'm all about doing everything we can to stop pollution,, but i also believe 'global warming' is a scare tactic to get others that dont care about the environment aware that we can hurt the environment.

once again..dumbass...

http://www.usgcrp.gov/usgcrp/nacc/background/scenarios/found/fig2.html
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 21, 2006, 04:01:23 PM
BBC article

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4467420.stm
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: bmacsys on December 22, 2006, 02:05:30 PM
Mr Toxic.
Since Wraming isn't a word, you are right. :o

But the actually core temperature of the earth has raised almost 1 degree since 1900.

The earth is getting warmer, but how much is human influence no one knows.

BTW, unless rich developed countries start sharing technology, we are screwed.
China is going to have around 200 coal fired power plants in operation in the next 20 years.
India will follow suit.

We will be screwed by more things than global warming, if we don't share technology.

I am actually working on geothermal power plant design right now. Hopefully we can get funding to build it.

Doesn't Iceland power and heat their whole country geothermally?
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: pumpster on December 22, 2006, 03:59:14 PM
I WANT global warming; not missing the snow. ;)
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 22, 2006, 05:46:14 PM
I WANT global warming; not missing the snow. ;)

talk to me come summer when we have record days over 100 degrees  ;)

and you have to pay the airconditioning bill  ;)

and crops dont do too well..and prices go up!  ;)
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on December 22, 2006, 06:06:42 PM
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.member.html

Click on the "AlGore" in the upper right corner.........that retard thinks we have 10 years before the earth destructs ::).........ooooooooh, I'm afraid, that bonehead should be committed........

RUSH: Try this one from yesterday's stack. I don't know if you people know this or not, but Al Gore has been out at the Sundance Film Festival out there in Park City, Utah. This is one of Robert Redford's big do's, and apparently Al Gore is working on a movie that -- what is the name of this movie? Oh, that's right, "An Inconvenient Truth," and the movie will document his efforts to raise alarm on the effects of global warming, and so he brought Tipper and the kids out there.

He's attending parties and posing for pictures with his fans. He's enjoying macaroni and cheese at the Discovery Channel's soirée. He's palling around with Laurie David of Curb Your Enthusiasm, who is the husband of Larry David, who drives the Prius and then flies the GV. Larry David says, "You know, Al is a funny guy, but he's also a very serious guy who believes humans may have only 10 years left to save the planet from turning into a total frying pan."
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 22, 2006, 07:12:34 PM
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.member.html

Click on the "AlGore" in the upper right corner.........that retard thinks we have 10 years before the earth destructs ::).........ooooooooh, I'm afraid, that bonehead should be committed........

RUSH: Try this one from yesterday's stack. I don't know if you people know this or not, but Al Gore has been out at the Sundance Film Festival out there in Park City, Utah. This is one of Robert Redford's big do's, and apparently Al Gore is working on a movie that -- what is the name of this movie? Oh, that's right, "An Inconvenient Truth," and the movie will document his efforts to raise alarm on the effects of global warming, and so he brought Tipper and the kids out there.

He's attending parties and posing for pictures with his fans. He's enjoying macaroni and cheese at the Discovery Channel's soirée. He's palling around with Laurie David of Curb Your Enthusiasm, who is the husband of Larry David, who drives the Prius and then flies the GV. Larry David says, "You know, Al is a funny guy, but he's also a very serious guy who believes humans may have only 10 years left to save the planet from turning into a total frying pan."


my gawd...you try soooo fucking hard to be white that it blinds you...   :-\


its ok hon..we get it..you r white..REALLY REALLY white..congrats on your whiteness..

dosen't mean u have to be be a lemming mang..

i kinda actually like your ass bro..WAKE UP!
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on December 22, 2006, 10:12:36 PM

my gawd...you try soooo fucking hard to be white that it blinds you...   :-\


its ok hon..we get it..you r white..REALLY REALLY white..congrats on your whiteness..

dosen't mean u have to be be a lemming mang..

i kinda actually like your ass bro..WAKE UP!

Dude, I'm the furthest thing from a racist you can find, I hope thats not what you're suggesting!
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 23, 2006, 07:08:30 AM
Dude, I'm the furthest thing from a racist you can find, I hope thats not what you're suggesting!

nope thats not it at all...


but fox watchers do have a tendency to get caught up in their own little 'rush' world...


i mean i'm in maryland..and its like 50 degrees outside...its DECEMBER!!

WAKE UP


look at the science..dont just blindly follow fox cause what they say hits home in a 'white' sorta way.. :-\
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: OneBigMan on December 23, 2006, 10:54:44 AM
Did anybody hear the self described El Rush Bo during the summer on the E I B network talking about and questioning where are all the hurricanes this year?

I couldn't believe Rush was going on like he was some climate expert who judges global warming only on the hurricanes that have not formed this year. Anybody who recalls what has repeatedly happened after what we've had in the past few recycled years, there was due to be at least one year of inactivity :-\
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 23, 2006, 11:28:37 AM
glacier national park soon wont have glaciers

(http://www.climatehotmap.org/photos/65.jpg)
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: Camel Jockey on December 23, 2006, 12:06:31 PM
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.member.html

Click on the "AlGore" in the upper right corner.........that retard thinks we have 10 years before the earth destructs ::).........ooooooooh, I'm afraid, that bonehead should be committed........

RUSH: Try this one from yesterday's stack. I don't know if you people know this or not, but Al Gore has been out at the Sundance Film Festival out there in Park City, Utah. This is one of Robert Redford's big do's, and apparently Al Gore is working on a movie that -- what is the name of this movie? Oh, that's right, "An Inconvenient Truth," and the movie will document his efforts to raise alarm on the effects of global warming, and so he brought Tipper and the kids out there.

He's attending parties and posing for pictures with his fans. He's enjoying macaroni and cheese at the Discovery Channel's soirée. He's palling around with Laurie David of Curb Your Enthusiasm, who is the husband of Larry David, who drives the Prius and then flies the GV. Larry David says, "You know, Al is a funny guy, but he's also a very serious guy who believes humans may have only 10 years left to save the planet from turning into a total frying pan."

You are so blind.. It's like 55 here in NYC and nearing christmas. THERE IS CLEARLY SOMETHING WRONG.

Things other then C02 emissions might be causing global warming, but c02 emissions are the biggest culprit.
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: 240 is Back on December 23, 2006, 12:16:28 PM
It's like 55 here in NYC and nearing christmas. THERE IS CLEARLY SOMETHING WRONG.

Crazy shit.  I'm almost hoping the dems get back in office, just so some damn tree hugging hippies can seriously look at these changes.  I know it's way more fun to blow up Iraqis and steal oil, but if Greenland or a nice chunk of Antarctica slip into the sea, the entire world is going to change very rapidly.
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: Camel Jockey on December 23, 2006, 12:37:45 PM
Crazy shit.  I'm almost hoping the dems get back in office, just so some damn tree hugging hippies can seriously look at these changes.  I know it's way more fun to blow up Iraqis and steal oil, but if Greenland or a nice chunk of Antarctica slip into the sea, the entire world is going to change very rapidly.

Yeah.. We need to take this issue seriously. I dunno why certain people just choose to ignore it, or decide that it's not real, when it clearly is. People like MR I are so blind. First response to this topic and he posts Rush's opinion, as though that viagra abusing fatso is some scienctists.  ::)
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: 240 is Back on December 23, 2006, 12:47:39 PM
it's a precaution - like one extra colon check.  you might argue you don't need it... but to disparage people who want to get a second opinion, is just silly.

Nobody KNOWS the truth.  Both sides have points.  But further investigation can hurt no one, and only help our world.  Once something happens, and suddenly 30% of antarctica shifts one day, all hell is gonna break loose.  The big chunk of floating ice might take a year to raise sea levels 10 feet.. .but picture the madness that ensues, real estate market wreck, economy problems... NYC and Beijing being underwater... I don't think people understand what that kinda raise in sea leve would mean.

To mock people who want to study it more is akin to the wafer buffalo teasing the PETA folks.
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 23, 2006, 01:54:25 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6657749639504506242&q=gulf+stream+shutdown&hl=en
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: 240 is Back on December 28, 2006, 09:26:06 AM
LOL>>>>>

Bush is adding polar bears to endangered species list

Their habitat is declining - ice is receding since 1979.

Admin finally admits connection between ice sheet shrinking and global warming.

In the past, Bush Admin has never agreed with the connection between global warming and people activity.

Now? It is "Yes we do believe greenhuose gases "play a role" in global warming."

Polar bears are drowning, starving, losing bodyweight.  Population of the animals down 20% in some areas.  The entire summer ice sheet could be gone in 40 years.  Aside from the fact all the polar bears would be dead... all that water would be rising on our world's shores.


SO, NOW that the Bush admin is finally admitting the connection, will the neocon defenders admit it's real?
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 28, 2006, 09:43:15 AM
LOL>>>>>

Bush is adding polar bears to endangered species list

Their habitat is declining - ice is receding since 1979.

Admin finally admits connection between ice sheet shrinking and global warming.

In the past, Bush Admin has never agreed with the connection between global warming and people activity.

Now? It is "Yes we do believe greenhuose gases "play a role" in global warming."

Polar bears are drowning, starving, losing bodyweight.  Population of the animals down 20% in some areas.  The entire summer ice sheet could be gone in 40 years.  Aside from the fact all the polar bears would be dead... all that water would be rising on our world's shores.


SO, NOW that the Bush admin is finally admitting the connection, will the neocon defenders admit it's real?

Maybe because they lost a chunck of the evangical vote on this issue and it's looking like that chunk of the vote will grow.  That and this is nothing new to Bush... He started with his doublespeak in 2000 and has never stopped. 
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: sandycoosworth on December 28, 2006, 09:45:01 AM
when you acknowledge there is a problem you kinda gotta do something about it...but doing something about it is not economically optimal ...especially when your biggest supporters are the ones who stand to lose the most from environmental sanctions
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 10:08:15 AM
when you acknowledge there is a problem you kinda gotta do something about it...but doing something about it is not economically optimal ...especially when your biggest supporters are the ones who stand to lose the most from environmental sanctions


except when we have records broken with high temps in the summer...and we lose crop and prices at the food stores skyrocket..


which i'm pretty sure is gonna happen this summer..
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: sandycoosworth on December 28, 2006, 10:12:40 AM
thats a possibility

however the more immediate monetary loss that would result from protective environmental policies being enforced (with teeth) is a certainty and more to the point we all know whose say counts (ie large corporations) and whose does not (ie environmentalists)
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: body88 on December 28, 2006, 10:18:49 AM
It has been around 45+ degrees in Boston for the last month. It was almost 60 last month. The winters here are some of the worst in America. We have had no snow. Normally there would be about 2 feet on the ground right now. Cold as shit. It starts to get cold in October here. Winter can last as long as late march, early April.

This is weird.
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: body88 on December 28, 2006, 10:21:38 AM
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.member.html

Click on the "AlGore" in the upper right corner.........that retard thinks we have 10 years before the earth destructs ::).........ooooooooh, I'm afraid, that bonehead should be committed........

RUSH: Try this one from yesterday's stack. I don't know if you people know this or not, but Al Gore has been out at the Sundance Film Festival out there in Park City, Utah. This is one of Robert Redford's big do's, and apparently Al Gore is working on a movie that -- what is the name of this movie? Oh, that's right, "An Inconvenient Truth," and the movie will document his efforts to raise alarm on the effects of global warming, and so he brought Tipper and the kids out there.

He's attending parties and posing for pictures with his fans. He's enjoying macaroni and cheese at the Discovery Channel's soirée. He's palling around with Laurie David of Curb Your Enthusiasm, who is the husband of Larry David, who drives the Prius and then flies the GV. Larry David says, "You know, Al is a funny guy, but he's also a very serious guy who believes humans may have only 10 years left to save the planet from turning into a total frying pan."


Dude, wake up.
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 10:26:16 AM
It has been around 45+ degrees in Boston for the last month. It was almost 60 last month. The winters here are some of the worst in America. We have had no snow. Normally there would be about 2 feet on the ground right now. Cold as shit. It starts to get cold in October here. Winter can last as long as late march, early April.

This is weird.

whats wierd is that NO ONE is talking about this...i mean i have not heard 1 single weather person say " global warming" 

not 1...


have you?  its like ..they r ignoring it...and what i actually hear is " this is great weather..we are lucky" :-\
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: body88 on December 28, 2006, 11:19:42 AM
Have not heard a thing about it. Last winter was pretty mild also. Not as bad as this year but def less harsh then previous years. Since I was a kid the winters have gotten slightly less intense each year. I remember when I was a freshman in college, I did not see the ground for 5 and a half months. Snow up the ass. Same deal in highschool, and grade school.

Gore's movie is the truth! Most critics are in total denial.
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 11:26:41 AM
Have not heard a thing about it.


i remember when i moved tthe US in 92...the winters here in MD used to be cold and snowey..i love the snow and the cold and the low ceiling clouds..

this yr nothing...

and i seriously wonder if the media is being told to down play it...
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: 240 is Back on December 28, 2006, 11:28:00 AM
I got a tinge of a sunburn this morning taking the family for a 45 minute walk at 9 AM.

Granted, it's florida, but it's late december.
Title: Re: There is no such thing as global wraming
Post by: ToxicAvenger on December 28, 2006, 11:33:51 AM
I got a tinge of a sunburn this morning taking the family for a 45 minute walk at 9 AM.

Granted, it's florida, but it's late december.


i wouldn't buy any costal property mate...

orrr get a HEAVY flod insurance policy and get paid in the next 5 yrs...

the hurricans r coming mate....they r coming!