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Re: Is Liberalism a Mental Disorder?
« Reply #1550 on: June 26, 2025, 03:30:23 PM »
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Re: Is Liberalism a Mental Disorder?
« Reply #1551 on: June 26, 2025, 04:42:51 PM »
Right?

He is his child's father, nothing more. What he thinks he knows means nothing. He is not an expert on transgenderism. Why would anyone give credence to what he claims? Seriously, how would a 2-year-old know they were transgender.

A child's early expressions of gender identity are not a clinical diagnosis of gender dysphoria. Children develop a self-perceived gender identity. A high proportion of prepubertal children with gender dysphoria do not continue to show such dysphoria after puberty. Gender-atypical behavior is not uncommon in the general population. (BJPsych Bulletin, April 2023, Philip Graham)

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Re: Is Liberalism a Mental Disorder?
« Reply #1552 on: June 27, 2025, 10:17:25 AM »
He is his child's father, nothing more. What he thinks he knows means nothing. He is not an expert on transgenderism. Why would anyone give credence to what he claims? Seriously, how would a 2-year-old know they were transgender.

A child's early expressions of gender identity are not a clinical diagnosis of gender dysphoria. Children develop a self-perceived gender identity. A high proportion of prepubertal children with gender dysphoria do not continue to show such dysphoria after puberty. Gender-atypical behavior is not uncommon in the general population. (BJPsych Bulletin, April 2023, Philip Graham)

What??  He is the child's father so he gets to make all decisions regarding the child's health and wellbeing.  So what he thinks means everything for that child.  He's deranged. 

And yes most kids with gender dysphoria grow out of it.  They wind up being either straight or gay. 

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Re: Is Liberalism a Mental Disorder?
« Reply #1553 on: June 27, 2025, 05:02:19 PM »
What??  He is the child's father so he gets to make all decisions regarding the child's health and wellbeing.  So what he thinks means everything for that child.  He's deranged. 

And yes most kids with gender dysphoria grow out of it.  They wind up being either straight or gay.

In my post I agreed that this crackpot father's opinion about his child's gender is nuts. And unfortunately, he definitely can make decisions regarding the child's health and wellbeing.

Is it not true that conservative viewpoints generally prioritize parental rights? This father's insane and misguided ideas are an example of why that is not always in the best interests of the child.

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Re: Is Liberalism a Mental Disorder?
« Reply #1554 on: June 27, 2025, 05:30:48 PM »
In my post I agreed that this crackpot father's opinion about his child's gender is nuts. And unfortunately, he definitely can make decisions regarding the child's health and wellbeing.

Is it not true that conservative viewpoints generally prioritize parental rights? This father's insane and misguided ideas are an example of why that is not always in the best interests of the child.

It's common sense to prioritize parental rights.  That doesn't extend to abuse or neglect. 

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Re: Is Liberalism a Mental Disorder?
« Reply #1555 on: June 28, 2025, 01:19:54 PM »
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Re: Is Liberalism a Mental Disorder?
« Reply #1556 on: June 28, 2025, 03:44:25 PM »
It's common sense to prioritize parental rights.  That doesn't extend to abuse or neglect.

Right. But we were discussing this particular parent’s rights with regards to their child’s gender dysphoria. How do you feel about him deciding when it is time to start his child on puberty blockers to transition from male to female. Fortunately, gender affirming surgeries are usually not performed prior to age eighteen.

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Re: Is Liberalism a Mental Disorder?
« Reply #1557 on: June 30, 2025, 12:57:41 PM »
Right. But we were discussing this particular parent’s rights with regards to their child’s gender dysphoria. How do you feel about him deciding when it is time to start his child on puberty blockers to transition from male to female. Fortunately, gender affirming surgeries are usually not performed prior to age eighteen.

I think "gender affirming care," i.e., gender mutilation, sterilization, etc. should be banned for minors.  It's child abuse. 

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Re: Is Liberalism a Mental Disorder?
« Reply #1558 on: June 30, 2025, 03:19:25 PM »
I think "gender affirming care," i.e., gender mutilation, sterilization, etc. should be banned for minors.  It's child abuse.


It is child abuse as well as being completely irrational & stupid.

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Re: Is Liberalism a Mental Disorder?
« Reply #1559 on: June 30, 2025, 03:30:49 PM »

It is child abuse as well as being completely irrational & stupid.

Yep.

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« Reply #1560 on: June 30, 2025, 04:48:18 PM »
I think "gender affirming care," i.e., gender mutilation, sterilization, etc. should be banned for minors.  It's child abuse.

It seems to me that you and I agree on this matter. Given what that misguided father believes, what do you think the likelihood is of his, okaying the child to be prescribed prepubescent hormone blockers/testosterone blockers? Fortunately, As of June 2025, 26 states had enacted some form of a ban on gender-affirming care for minors. However, puberty blockers are legally prescribed off-label for precocious puberty and other medical conditions.

When do you believe parental rights as they pertain to gender affirming care be suspended and how should this be implemented?

Have you read Middlesex, the 2003 Pulitzer Prize–winning novel by Jeffrey Eugenides? Although this novel is fiction, it could very well have been a non-fictional biography. If you have not, I highly recommend that you do.

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Re: Is Liberalism a Mental Disorder?
« Reply #1561 on: June 30, 2025, 05:11:07 PM »
It seems to me that you and I agree on this matter. Given what that misguided father believes, what do you think the likelihood is of his, okaying the child to be prescribed prepubescent hormone blockers/testosterone blockers? Fortunately, As of June 2025, 26 states had enacted some form of a ban on gender-affirming care for minors. However, puberty blockers are legally prescribed off-label for precocious puberty and other medical conditions.

When do you believe parental rights as they pertain to gender affirming care be suspended and how should this be implemented?

Have you read Middlesex, the 2003 Pulitzer Prize–winning novel by Jeffrey Eugenides? Although this novel is fiction, it could very well have been a non-fictional biography. If you have not, I highly recommend that you do.

It's not "gender affirming care."  It is the amputating of perfectly healthy breasts on a girl.  It's amputating a normal penis and balls on a boy.  It's sterilizing boys and girls.  It's giving a boy puberty blockers that stops his penis from growing so that when he is an adult he has a little boy penis.  It's creating a fake vagina that doesn't work like a vagina and that the body treats like a wound, tries to close it, requiring it to be dilated every month.  It's ensuring a girl can never breast feed.  It's ensuring boys and girls, when they become adults, can never have an orgasm.  This Frankenstein stuff.     

As I stated, it's child abuse.  It should be treated like child abuse, which is unlawful. 

I have not read Middlesex.  What is it about?

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« Reply #1562 on: June 30, 2025, 05:58:40 PM »
It's not "gender affirming care."  It is the amputating of perfectly healthy breasts on a girl.  It's amputating a normal penis and balls on a boy.  It's sterilizing boys and girls.  It's giving a boy puberty blockers that stops his penis from growing so that when he is an adult he has a little boy penis.  It's creating a fake vagina that doesn't work like a vagina and that the body treats like a wound, tries to close it, requiring it to be dilated every month.  It's ensuring a girl can never breast feed.  It's ensuring boys and girls, when they become adults, can never have an orgasm.  This Frankenstein stuff.     

As I stated, it's child abuse.  It should be treated like child abuse, which is unlawful. 

I have not read Middlesex.  What is it about?

Call it what you like but for longer than you might think, gender affirming care is what it has been known as. 'In 1966 the Johns Hopkins Gender Clinic opened; it was one of the first in the US to provide care for transgender individuals, including hormone replacement therapy, surgery, psychological counseling, and other gender affirmative healthcare.'   In fact, the underlying practices like gender-affirming surgery and hormone therapy have been evolving for nearly a century. Also, the term refers to a broader range of care for gender dysphoria than what you outlined. It applies to folks of all ages who have gender dysmorphia, not just children.

IMO except is cases of disfigurement, should cosmetic surgery, such as 'nose jobs' and breast implants be preformed on minors, which it can be and sometimes is with parent's approval prior to age 18.

Here is a link to the Wiki synopsis of the novel Middlesex that fairly accurately describes the story. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_(novel). I read it shortly after it was published in 2002. It is a fascinating read, told from the viewpoint of the protagonist, Cal/Calliope Stephanides, who is intersex.

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Re: Is Liberalism a Mental Disorder?
« Reply #1563 on: June 30, 2025, 06:50:44 PM »
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Re: Is Liberalism a Mental Disorder?
« Reply #1564 on: June 30, 2025, 06:57:53 PM »
It's not "gender affirming care."  It is the amputating of perfectly healthy breasts on a girl.  It's amputating a normal penis and balls on a boy.  It's sterilizing boys and girls.  It's giving a boy puberty blockers that stops his penis from growing so that when he is an adult he has a little boy penis.  It's creating a fake vagina that doesn't work like a vagina and that the body treats like a wound, tries to close it, requiring it to be dilated every month.  It's ensuring a girl can never breast feed.  It's ensuring boys and girls, when they become adults, can never have an orgasm.  This Frankenstein stuff.     

As I stated, it's child abuse.  It should be treated like child abuse, which is unlawful. 

I have not read Middlesex.  What is it about?


Well said - its worse than Frankenstien stuff

Its totally sick & depraved & any one who supports such is a mental liability .
Stop the stupid Fucking around no amount of surgery / drugs is going to change
A man to a woman or a woman to a man.
Simple Biological facts, that those who are mentally fucked can't/ won't accept,
Though that makes zero difference as they will always be what they Biology dictates.

How has the world become so soft & stupid pandering to those with delusional
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Re: Is Liberalism a Mental Disorder?
« Reply #1565 on: June 30, 2025, 10:14:53 PM »
Call it what you like but for longer than you might think, gender affirming care is what it has been known as. 'In 1966 the Johns Hopkins Gender Clinic opened; it was one of the first in the US to provide care for transgender individuals, including hormone replacement therapy, surgery, psychological counseling, and other gender affirmative healthcare.'   In fact, the underlying practices like gender-affirming surgery and hormone therapy have been evolving for nearly a century. Also, the term refers to a broader range of care for gender dysphoria than what you outlined. It applies to folks of all ages who have gender dysmorphia, not just children.

IMO except is cases of disfigurement, should cosmetic surgery, such as 'nose jobs' and breast implants be preformed on minors, which it can be and sometimes is with parent's approval prior to age 18.

Here is a link to the Wiki synopsis of the novel Middlesex that fairly accurately describes the story. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_(novel). I read it shortly after it was published in 2002. It is a fascinating read, told from the viewpoint of the protagonist, Cal/Calliope Stephanides, who is intersex.

I'm not calling it what I want.  I specifically described what it involves.  The phrase "gender affirming care" is simply a way to mask the brutality of mutilating kids and making that mutilation easier to sell. 

I looked at the description of the book.  Not my thing, but thanks for the recommendation. 

Cal Stephanides (his masculine identity), also known as Calliope (feminine), recounts how 5-alpha-reductase deficiency, a recessive condition, caused him to be born with female characteristics. The book continues with accounts of his family's history and the conception of Cal, his childhood and teenage years being raised as a girl, and the discovery of his intersex condition. Cal weaves his opinion of the events in hindsight from his life after his father's funeral. Middlesex is set in the 20th century and interjects historical elements, such as the Balkan Wars, the Nation of Islam, the 1967 Detroit riot, and the Watergate scandal into the story.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_(novel)

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Re: Is Liberalism a Mental Disorder?
« Reply #1566 on: June 30, 2025, 11:15:25 PM »
I'm not calling it what I want.  I specifically described what it involves.  The phrase "gender affirming care" is simply a way to mask the brutality of mutilating kids and making that mutilation easier to sell. 

I looked at the description of the book.  Not my thing, but thanks for the recommendation. 

Cal Stephanides (his masculine identity), also known as Calliope (feminine), recounts how 5-alpha-reductase deficiency, a recessive condition, caused him to be born with female characteristics. The book continues with accounts of his family's history and the conception of Cal, his childhood and teenage years being raised as a girl, and the discovery of his intersex condition. Cal weaves his opinion of the events in hindsight from his life after his father's funeral. Middlesex is set in the 20th century and interjects historical elements, such as the Balkan Wars, the Nation of Islam, the 1967 Detroit riot, and the Watergate scandal into the story.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_(novel)


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« Reply #1567 on: Today at 11:18:43 AM »
It's not "gender affirming care."  It is the amputating of perfectly healthy breasts on a girl.  It's amputating a normal penis and balls on a boy.  It's sterilizing boys and girls.  It's giving a boy puberty blockers that stops his penis from growing so that when he is an adult he has a little boy penis.  It's creating a fake vagina that doesn't work like a vagina and that the body treats like a wound, tries to close it, requiring it to be dilated every month.  It's ensuring a girl can never breast feed.  It's ensuring boys and girls, when they become adults, can never have an orgasm.  This Frankenstein stuff.     

As I stated, it's child abuse.  It should be treated like child abuse, which is unlawful. 

I have not read Middlesex.  What is it about?
100% agree
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« Reply #1568 on: Today at 03:30:46 PM »
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Most people know that The Babalon Bee is satirical nonsense, however, when the far right media resorts to AI created lies, they discredit everything else report, including that which is true. This also applies to those who repost them, i.e. you.  ::)

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« Reply #1570 on: Today at 03:53:45 PM »
Ha Ha Ha - Say the person constantly quoting CNN ETC & Left wing
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How easy it is to get you Triggered - just post anything that is Not Pro
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Being discredited on Getbig by idiots... Oh my!

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« Reply #1571 on: Today at 04:00:42 PM »
Being discredited on Getbig by idiots... Oh my!

Yes, I am triggered by people posting lies. Especially lies which are not humorous to anyone except those who are the most demented.

Getbig says you're The Idiot & the one with Fucked up thinking supporting
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Getbig says you're The Idiot & the one with Fucked up thinking supporting
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« Reply #1573 on: Today at 04:10:23 PM »
Apparently, you think I give a rat's ass what 'Getbig' says. FYI, I don't. When did you become the voice of Getbig, anyway?  ::)

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Apparently, you think I give a rat's ass what 'Getbig' says. FYI, I don't. When did you become the voice of Getbig, anyway?  ::)


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