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According to a report by Breitbart, the Internal Revenue Service has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars buying ammunition, raising concern about why a government agency is buying ammunition that the administration plans to restrict further in the coming months.

On Saturday, Congressman Matt Gaetz told Breitbart that the IRS spent approximately $700,000 “between March and June 1” purchasing ammunition.

Gaetz called the IRS’s acquisition of the ammunition “bizarre.” He said, “There is concern that this is part of a broader effort to have any entity in the federal government buy up ammo to reduce the amount of ammunition that is in supply, while at the same time, making it harder to produce ammo.”

The Congressman went on to propose a potential scenario where federal agencies are buying up ammunition and putting citizens in a situation where they cannot exercise their Second Amendment rights due to the inability to get ammunition.

He expressed concern that the government intended to reduce ammunition production “and, on the other hand, [soaks] up the supply of it.” It is something he feels is a direct violation of the rights of Americans.

usaspending.gov, the IRS’s ammunition purchases ranged from $3,201 worth of ammo at one time to $92,000+ worth of ammo at one time. The purchases were spread out over several months, according to the documents, which are publicly available.

According to a report from OpenTheBooks published in 2020, the IRS had stockpiled 4,600 guns and five million rounds of ammunition as of January 2019.


According to the Government Accountability Office the ammunition breakdown at the time included:

3,151,500 Pistol and revolver rounds
1,472,050 Rifle rounds
367,750 Shotgun rounds
56,000 Fully automatic firearm rounds
More interesting is that the IRS does not follow any regulations concerning the issuance, use, and accountability of the agency’s staff carrying such weapons. This starkly contradicts the recent push of gun control laws nationwide, including more heavily regulated training and liability.

According to reports from the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA), the IRS has repeatedly failed to ensure that procedures relating to firearms are properly followed.

“There is no national-level review of firearms training records to ensure that all special agents meet the qualification requirements,” according to the report.

Furthermore, the report states that the IRS’s failure to conduct proper internal oversight of its weapons could have serious consequences for the public.

As noted by the Inspector General at the time, “If there is insufficient oversight, special agents in possession of firearms who are not properly trained and qualified could endanger other special agents and the public.”

A TIGTA report found that special agents at the IRS Criminal Investigation Division (IRS-CI) accidentally fired their weapons more often than they intentionally fired them

Additionally, the IRS has come under scrutiny in the past for the harsh tactics it used to enforce the tax code, including incidents involving armed agents. With the agency requesting tens of billions in new funding, it is not hard to see how these abuses could return.

A 1998 article by Washington Post noted many small business owners were harassed by the IRS, only for the agency to find no evidence of wrongdoing.





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Coach, can you update us on this? Seemed pretty important at the time to post about it.. have you followed up?

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2022/06/fact-check-irs-has-not-just-begun-buying-ammunition-its-criminal-investigation-unit-has-always-done-so.html#:~:text=No%2C%20that%27s%20not%20true%3A%20The%20IRS%20started%20buying,enforcement%20officers%20to%20buy%20ammunition%2C%20firearms%20and%20equipment.

https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/government-verify/internal-revenue-service-did-buy-nearly-700k-in-ammunition/536-0ce9f538-a372-4c26-8013-1ab4e571578c
IRS purchased $700k worth of ammo in just a few months, do you know how much that is? Do you know the price of ammo is much lower for government agencies than civilians?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2022/08/08/irs-has-guns-inflation-reduction-act-will-unleash-tough-irs-on-taxes/?sh=5b0666095d20

This link has a cute little footnote....

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Some of the guns the IRS has are fully automatic machine guns. Compared to seeing gun-toting IRS Agents at your door, a correspondence audit doesn’t sound too bad. An audit report from the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration covering 2009 to 2011 said that IRS Agents accidentally discharged their guns 11 times during that time. The report says that IRS agents fired their guns accidentally more times than they did intentionally. Some of the misfires caused property damage or personal injury. A few defendants in criminal tax cases have tried to suppress evidence based on the IRS carrying guns.

Just what we need, another arm of the democratic party armed with fully auto guns forcing our money out of our pockets. ::)
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Sounds awesome.  This little civil war 2 is going to be over before it even gets started.

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Sounds awesome.  This little civil war 2 is going to be over before it even gets started.
Right? You guys trying to figure out which end goes bang will be hilarious.
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Right? You guys trying to figure out which end goes bang will be hilarious.

No, you guys actually trying to do something besides cry on the internet is hilarious. 

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IRS purchased $700k worth of ammo in just a few months, do you know how much that is? Do you know the price of ammo is much lower for government agencies than civilians?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2022/08/08/irs-has-guns-inflation-reduction-act-will-unleash-tough-irs-on-taxes/?sh=5b0666095d20

This link has a cute little footnote....

Just what we need, another arm of the democratic party armed with fully auto guns forcing our money out of our pockets. ::)

But aren't the facts, that the IRS has purchased similar amounts for years?

"The division’s spending on ammunition this year is on par with previous years and less than what was spent a decade ago, IRS data shows. Much of the ammunition is used at its training academy in Georgia, where agents complete firearms training and handgun qualifications."

"Gaetz's comments about Biden came after Carlson cited reports from 2018 and 2020 about IRS spending on weapons and ammunition — expenditures that happened before Biden took office."

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But aren't the facts, that the IRS has purchased similar amounts for years?

"The division’s spending on ammunition this year is on par with previous years and less than what was spent a decade ago, IRS data shows. Much of the ammunition is used at its training academy in Georgia, where agents complete firearms training and handgun qualifications."

"Gaetz's comments about Biden came after Carlson cited reports from 2018 and 2020 about IRS spending on weapons and ammunition — expenditures that happened before Biden took office."

Well that’s a let down. I assumed they kept seeing all the J6 Trumpturds being arrested were mostly dead eats and system leeches and decided to thin the herd.

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Well that’s a let down. I assumed they kept seeing all the J6 Trumpturds being arrested were mostly dead eats and system leeches and decided to thin the herd.

Is Coach on vacation? He posts whacko posts, then disappears... The fact he challenges people to a debate yet has failed to respond to any of these questions is kind of weird.

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Is Coach on vacation? He posts whacko posts, then disappears... The fact he challenges people to a debate yet has failed to respond to any of these questions is kind of weird.

Qoach is prepping for the upcoming civil war. He finally pieced together his Cabelas Jr. tact gear outfit.   Just looking for the Hasbro size 5 Urban Assault Boots now.  And waiting for mommy to sign his permission slip.


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Qoach is prepping for the upcoming civil war. He finally pieced together his Cabelas Jr. tact gear outfit.   Just looking for the Hasbro size 5 Urban Assault Boots now.  And waiting for mommy to sign his permission slip.

You perverse sick vile groomer with no life, fantasying about incest now  ???
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According to a report by Breitbart, the Internal Revenue Service has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars buying ammunition, raising concern about why a government agency is buying ammunition that the administration plans to restrict further in the coming months.

On Saturday, Congressman Matt Gaetz told Breitbart that the IRS spent approximately $700,000 “between March and June 1” purchasing ammunition.

Gaetz called the IRS’s acquisition of the ammunition “bizarre.” He said, “There is concern that this is part of a broader effort to have any entity in the federal government buy up ammo to reduce the amount of ammunition that is in supply, while at the same time, making it harder to produce ammo.”

The Congressman went on to propose a potential scenario where federal agencies are buying up ammunition and putting citizens in a situation where they cannot exercise their Second Amendment rights due to the inability to get ammunition.

He expressed concern that the government intended to reduce ammunition production “and, on the other hand, [soaks] up the supply of it.” It is something he feels is a direct violation of the rights of Americans.

usaspending.gov, the IRS’s ammunition purchases ranged from $3,201 worth of ammo at one time to $92,000+ worth of ammo at one time. The purchases were spread out over several months, according to the documents, which are publicly available.

According to a report from OpenTheBooks published in 2020, the IRS had stockpiled 4,600 guns and five million rounds of ammunition as of January 2019.


According to the Government Accountability Office the ammunition breakdown at the time included:

3,151,500 Pistol and revolver rounds
1,472,050 Rifle rounds
367,750 Shotgun rounds
56,000 Fully automatic firearm rounds
More interesting is that the IRS does not follow any regulations concerning the issuance, use, and accountability of the agency’s staff carrying such weapons. This starkly contradicts the recent push of gun control laws nationwide, including more heavily regulated training and liability.

According to reports from the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA), the IRS has repeatedly failed to ensure that procedures relating to firearms are properly followed.

“There is no national-level review of firearms training records to ensure that all special agents meet the qualification requirements,” according to the report.

Furthermore, the report states that the IRS’s failure to conduct proper internal oversight of its weapons could have serious consequences for the public.

As noted by the Inspector General at the time, “If there is insufficient oversight, special agents in possession of firearms who are not properly trained and qualified could endanger other special agents and the public.”

A TIGTA report found that special agents at the IRS Criminal Investigation Division (IRS-CI) accidentally fired their weapons more often than they intentionally fired them

Additionally, the IRS has come under scrutiny in the past for the harsh tactics it used to enforce the tax code, including incidents involving armed agents. With the agency requesting tens of billions in new funding, it is not hard to see how these abuses could return.

A 1998 article by Washington Post noted many small business owners were harassed by the IRS, only for the agency to find no evidence of wrongdoing.

Right on, Coach...  ::)

The IRS Criminal Investigation (CI) division of the IRS has been purchasing guns and ammunition for over a century. The CI investigations have included gangsters, drug dealers, and the mafia. Are you a gangster, drug dealer or in the mafia?

The Criminal Investigation Division had 2,046 Special Agents in 2021. The number of Special Agents has been around 2,200 for the last 50 years. You should be very afraid because you've also been around for the last 50 years... or so.

There has been an increase in spending by the IRS on ammunition since 2010. Maybe the increase in spending is because the cost of ammunition has increased by 19% between 2019 to 2022 and as we all know inflation has continue to rise in 2023.

There will always be folks like you who believe the government is out to get them. If you are a mobster who cheats on his income tax, maybe you should be concerned. Has the IRS audited your income taxes lately.

Better be careful, this is how it starts... I mean look at what has happened to Trump since he was audited by the IRS. Although it was the FBI who searched (some say raided) his 'pile' in Florida and we know they carry weapons which are likely loaded with expensive ammunition.

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Right on, Coach...  ::)

The IRS Criminal Investigation (CI) division of the IRS has been purchasing guns and ammunition for over a century. The CI investigations have included gangsters, drug dealers, and the mafia. Are you a gangster, drug dealer or in the mafia?

The Criminal Investigation Division had 2,046 Special Agents in 2021. The number of Special Agents has been around 2,200 for the last 50 years. You should be very afraid because you've also been around for the last 50 years... or so.

There has been an increase in spending by the IRS on ammunition since 2010. Maybe the increase in spending is because the cost of ammunition has increased by 19% between 2019 to 2022 and as we all know inflation has continue to rise in 2023.

There will always be folks like you who believe the government is out to get them. If you are a mobster who cheats on his income tax, maybe you should be concerned. Has the IRS audited your income taxes lately.

Better be careful, this is how it starts... I mean look at what has happened to Trump since he was audited by the IRS. Although it was the FBI who searched (some say raided) his 'pile' in Florida and we know they carry weapons which are likely loaded with expensive ammunition.

I bet he ignores this. LOL

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I bet he ignores this. LOL

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But aren't the facts, that the IRS has purchased similar amounts for years?

"The division’s spending on ammunition this year is on par with previous years and less than what was spent a decade ago, IRS data shows. Much of the ammunition is used at its training academy in Georgia, where agents complete firearms training and handgun qualifications."

"Gaetz's comments about Biden came after Carlson cited reports from 2018 and 2020 about IRS spending on weapons and ammunition — expenditures that happened before Biden took office."
I believe the concern was about the amount in the timeframe. Maybe they bought it all at once? I wouldn't blame this on Biden, the government in general has become more and more controlling and interested in our lives. Should be the other way around, they should have to answer to the people.
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Too late. I'll never be able to use all mine purchased around Obammer's second coming.   ;D

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I believe the concern was about the amount in the timeframe. Maybe they bought it all at once? I wouldn't blame this on Biden, the government in general has become more and more controlling and interested in our lives. Should be the other way around, they should have to answer to the people.

Fair enough. No, the amount and time frame are in line with earlier years. And I don't have a problem with a senator calling it out. My problem is with Gaetz' attempt to paint it as Biden trying to arm the IRS and take our guns. Granted, reading that, it sounds insane, but ;

 "I imagine the IRS in green eyeshades and cubicles (Here is an example of his thinking Americans are stupid. He KNOWS the IRS works hand in hand with Law Enforcement. He has to know the IRS was the reason Capone was taken down)     — not busting doors down and emptying Glock clips on our fellow Americans. Certainly it's troubling that in 2022 alone, the IRS has spent around $725,000 on ammunition. So here's the Biden plan: Disarm Americans, open the border, empty the prisons — but rest assured, they'll still collect your taxes, and they need $725,000 worth of ammunition, apparently, to get the job done."

Why didn't this bother Gaetz from 2017 to 2020 when they spent similar amounts?

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Just pay your taxes and you won’t have to worry about the IRS putting lead in your kneecap with a drive by.

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You are grotesque and a disgrace to men everywhere.

Boohoo, you hurt my feelings.

I would say sorry to have disgraced you, but you are more jerk than man.

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Boohoo, you hurt my feelings.

I would say sorry to have disgraced you, but you are more jerk than man.

sound like you are defending the grooming of children for sexual activities ?? by comparing it to shooting a gun ?
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/irs-removes-entire-investigative-team-hunter-biden-probe-whistleblower-claims-retaliation-report

Side note, Agnostic now isn’t any better than Straw, Prime and lurker when it comes being their village idiot equals.


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News Flash :  Coach continues to have his threads blow up in his face nonstop. 

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News Flash :  Coach continues to have his threads blow up in his face nonstop.

sound like you are defending the grooming of children for sexual activities ?? by comparing it to shooting a gun ?
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