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« on: October 24, 2008, 09:12:30 AM »
i jus got diagnosed wit bad anxiety. xanax wont fuck wit my test levels like painkillers would, would they?

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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2008, 09:23:03 AM »
I'm not sure, but please use it only in an emergency, it is one of the most addicting drugs on the planet and one of the hardest to come off of.

I used it years ago for anxiety and it only effected me if i trained in the mornings as i was still doped up from taking it the night before. i only took it for sleep because my anxiety kept me from sleeping.

i'm fine now so ithrew it away.

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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2008, 10:07:53 AM »
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2008, 10:57:10 AM »
I used to be damn near suicidal with the worst case of anxiety (didn't show because I was popular and seemingly upbeat)... but just learn how to meditate and understand your train of thought. If you try to change the way you think you could derail yourself and have a complete meltdown like I always used to. Just identify what's happening when you have an anxiety attack and that's half the battle right there.

I read up on Tibetan Buddhism for years and while I wouldn't call myself a Buddhist per se, I took a lot of those lessons and applied them to my everyday life. It REALLY helped me to cope with things and I no longer live with depression. I have maybe one or two rare anxiety attacks each year, but they're brief and as soon as they happen I can calm myself down. Before, I'd want to curl up in a ball and kill myself, but I'd be too inebriated in my confused, scared thoughts that I would be just paralyzed (I would have killed myself had I not been so messed up)... so you can say that I had a very bad case of anxiety. Pills didn't help with my problem, shrinks didn't help with my problem and brainwashing myself and pretending to be happy didn't either. Meditating, relaxing and talking myself through the situations and understanding them better is what helped.

You'd do the exact same thing with an anxiety attack as you would on a bad mushroom trip, you do NOT fight it whatever you do. You analyze it and accept it. Identify what it is to you that's so uncomforting about the situation or challenge that's afflicted you and cope with it. Sometimes you can fix your problems, sometimes you can't. If you can't, there's no need to stress over it. You're wasting energy on negativity. Why not use that same energy to load up your favorite porn site and bust out a relieving nut? Or make yourself something to eat. I find that focusing on a task really helps to curb the edge. I would usually find my dog, lay with him for a bit and go for a walk. I'd smoke weed to relax back in the day but NOT until my anxiety attack had passed. Do NOT use drugs to fix psychological problems unless you're severely fucked up. They are an absolute last resort. Unless you constantly have a knife to your wrist or think about suffocating yourself in your car then do NOT use drugs. They can fuck you up badly.

If you have bad anxiety or have an attack, send me a PM and tell me about it. I don't care how long or detailed it is, go into as much detail as you want. It's good to spill the beans, even if it's via typing and not verbal. Talking to people really helps to make anxiety attacks less uncomfortable and foreign. I know I sound like a scatterbrain but I'm pretty positive that I can help you. If not, at least you tried before hitting the drugs. ONLY take Xanax if you're having a super bad attack and can't snap yourself out of it. I have some Xanax and Ativan for severe emergencies. Haven't had to use them in over two years.

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Re: xanax
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2008, 01:27:18 PM »
I'm not sure, but please use it only in an emergency, it is one of the most addicting drugs on the planet and one of the hardest to come off of.

I used it years ago for anxiety and it only effected me if i trained in the mornings as i was still doped up from taking it the night before. i only took it for sleep because my anxiety kept me from sleeping.

i'm fine now so ithrew it away.

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How long were you using it for and how many milligrams a day?  I have been using it for the past two months or so almost daily, about 1-2 milligrams throughout the day b/c of these severe anxiety attacks I suddenly started having.  My doc said I should switch to something like Zoloft.  I may just try to work my way through this without using anything.

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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2008, 03:45:01 PM »
I NOTICE THAT WHEN I TAKE XANAX I LOOK AND FEEL BETTER, I ALSO HAVE IT FOR ANXIETY. I STOPPED TAKING IT FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS AND I DID NOT HAVE A HARD TIME COMING OFF IT. I TOOK IT TODAY FOR THE LONGEST TIME AND I FEEL GREAT. WHEN I DO TAKE IT I USUALLY TAKE IT 3-4 MG PER DAY. I HAVE HAD THE SCRIPT FOR IT ABOUT 5 YEARS. XANAX HAS HELPED ME ENORMOUSLY AND FOR ME AT LEAST IT'S A GIFT FROM GODS...
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2008, 05:33:10 PM »
You'd do the exact same thing with an anxiety attack as you would on a bad mushroom trip, you do NOT fight it whatever you do. You analyze it and accept it.

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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2008, 05:36:25 PM »
Xanax is very very addicting. As Overload said it should only be used in emergency's. I would look into more natural methods (i.e. Valerian Root, etc) & some relaxation techniques. Maybe even meditation. As for lowering test levels I'm not sure on that but if you take a lot of it for a long period of time your sex drive goes down.

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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2008, 05:37:54 PM »
so basically anxiety is like a form of insecurity+depression ?  and there are medications to make you not feel that way ?  arent these just basically drugs like ecstacy and cocaine ?

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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2008, 05:39:58 PM »
How long were you using it for and how many milligrams a day?  I have been using it for the past two months or so almost daily, about 1-2 milligrams throughout the day b/c of these severe anxiety attacks I suddenly started having.  My doc said I should switch to something like Zoloft.  I may just try to work my way through this without using anything.

I used to take somewhere in the neighborhood of 1-3 mgs a day for anxiety. One day I decided to stop cold turkey & work through it on my own (probably a mistake in hindsight but I got tired of feeling off all the time). After awhile things worked out fine. I rarely if ever have panic attacks anymore. In fact when I go to the doctor to get something to make flying easier I specifically ask for anything but Xanax.

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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2008, 05:42:36 PM »
so basically anxiety is like a form of insecurity+depression ?  and there are medications to make you not feel that way ?  arent these just basically drugs like ecstacy and cocaine ?

Not exactly - there's tons of causes for anxiety - it doesn't mean you're necessarily depressed or insecure. There's tons of benzo's out there...Adivan, Xanax, Valium...that can help with anxiety.

I wouldn't exactly call coke & ecstasy a drug to treat anxiety.

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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2008, 05:44:26 PM »
Not exactly - there's tons of causes for anxiety - it doesn't mean you're necessarily depressed or insecure. There's tons of benzo's out there...Adivan, Xanax, Valium...that can help with anxiety.

I wouldn't exactly call coke & ecstasy a drug to treat anxiety.
well if  insecuirty and depression are forms of anxiety, i had anxiety, and thats why i used those drugs, when i did use them. however they worked at first them over time made it worse. which made me use more. cyclical. i would be afraid of these 'anti-anxiety' meds for fear that the same thing would happen.

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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2008, 05:48:20 PM »
well if  insecuirty and depression are forms of anxiety, i had anxiety, and thats why i used those drugs, when i did use them. however they worked at first them over time made it worse. which made me use more. cyclical. i would be afraid of these 'anti-anxiety' meds for fear that the same thing would happen.

Insecurity & Depression can lead to anxiety & I suppose can be forms of it. Remember some anxiety can be kind of irrational too. In all seriousness & I hope you actually listen to me on this one. You have had problems with drugs in the past (I'm not saying that to fuck with you) so I would steer clear of anti-anxiety meds like Xanax, Adivan, Valium, Klonopin, etc (benzo's). You will fast become addicted to them & that's no bullshit. I've seen to happen to several people I know. There are way to beat anxiety without medication.

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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2008, 06:03:31 PM »
yeah ive gotten through my mental issues over the last year and half..it took a while and its been tought but now life is great, better than any drug ever gave me.

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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2008, 07:14:08 PM »
yeah ive gotten through my mental issues over the last year and half..it took a while and its been tought but now life is great, better than any drug ever gave me.

I tend to think your mental issues are still affection you, dizzle.

I could be wrong, but your maturity level hasn't improved all that much over the past year and three GetBig handles.

I recommend Valium for you.   ;D



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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2008, 03:30:43 AM »
Insecurity & Depression can lead to anxiety & I suppose can be forms of it. Remember some anxiety can be kind of irrational too. In all seriousness & I hope you actually listen to me on this one. You have had problems with drugs in the past (I'm not saying that to fuck with you) so I would steer clear of anti-anxiety meds like Xanax, Adivan, Valium, Klonopin, etc (benzo's). You will fast become addicted to them & that's no bullshit. I've seen to happen to several people I know. There are way to beat anxiety without medication.

I second what Rim is saying.  I've used Xanax off an on over the last five years.  You have to be VERY careful.  It is highly addictive and one of the easiest drugs to get addicted to and one of the hardest to come off of.  DO NOT mess with it if you have a history of addiction.

Also, in my case depression was due to low Test levels.  My doctor eventually figured that out, but I had to request the blood test of my levels of Test, Thyroid, etc.

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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2008, 06:18:49 AM »
I used to be damn near suicidal with the worst case of anxiety (didn't show because I was popular and seemingly upbeat)... but just learn how to meditate and understand your train of thought. If you try to change the way you think you could derail yourself and have a complete meltdown like I always used to. Just identify what's happening when you have an anxiety attack and that's half the battle right there.

I read up on Tibetan Buddhism for years and while I wouldn't call myself a Buddhist per se, I took a lot of those lessons and applied them to my everyday life. It REALLY helped me to cope with things and I no longer live with depression. I have maybe one or two rare anxiety attacks each year, but they're brief and as soon as they happen I can calm myself down. Before, I'd want to curl up in a ball and kill myself, but I'd be too inebriated in my confused, scared thoughts that I would be just paralyzed (I would have killed myself had I not been so messed up)... so you can say that I had a very bad case of anxiety. Pills didn't help with my problem, shrinks didn't help with my problem and brainwashing myself and pretending to be happy didn't either. Meditating, relaxing and talking myself through the situations and understanding them better is what helped.

You'd do the exact same thing with an anxiety attack as you would on a bad mushroom trip, you do NOT fight it whatever you do. You analyze it and accept it. Identify what it is to you that's so uncomforting about the situation or challenge that's afflicted you and cope with it. Sometimes you can fix your problems, sometimes you can't. If you can't, there's no need to stress over it. You're wasting energy on negativity. Why not use that same energy to load up your favorite porn site and bust out a relieving nut? Or make yourself something to eat. I find that focusing on a task really helps to curb the edge. I would usually find my dog, lay with him for a bit and go for a walk. I'd smoke weed to relax back in the day but NOT until my anxiety attack had passed. Do NOT use drugs to fix psychological problems unless you're severely fucked up. They are an absolute last resort. Unless you constantly have a knife to your wrist or think about suffocating yourself in your car then do NOT use drugs. They can fuck you up badly.

If you have bad anxiety or have an attack, send me a PM and tell me about it. I don't care how long or detailed it is, go into as much detail as you want. It's good to spill the beans, even if it's via typing and not verbal. Talking to people really helps to make anxiety attacks less uncomfortable and foreign. I know I sound like a scatterbrain but I'm pretty positive that I can help you. If not, at least you tried before hitting the drugs. ONLY take Xanax if you're having a super bad attack and can't snap yourself out of it. I have some Xanax and Ativan for severe emergencies. Haven't had to use them in over two years.

Excellent post man, very good advice it sounds.  Cool of you to be so open, insightful and helpful.  One of the best posts I have read in a long time.  Me I would say gets anxious from time to time nothing too bad but stress never the less, your suggestions for calming yourself and being aware I will remember.

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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2008, 07:51:32 AM »
ask your doc about triavil, its perphenanzine and amitriptyline in a 2:25mg ratio and works wonders for anxiety, you take it once a day.  i still use xanax maybe once every 3-4 months for emergency.

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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2008, 04:50:24 PM »
Excellent post man, very good advice it sounds.  Cool of you to be so open, insightful and helpful.  One of the best posts I have read in a long time.  Me I would say gets anxious from time to time nothing too bad but stress never the less, your suggestions for calming yourself and being aware I will remember.

Thanks, man. Glad you took something away from that.

One thing that really helped me was having complete ego loss on mushrooms back in the day. I only ingested two grams but didn't eat that day and got stuck in the sun. I had a pounding migraine whilst tripping balls and couldn't even speak English. I was speaking in tongues and my friends laughed at me thinking it was a joke...

But having your ego ripped through your asshole and send traveling through the universe at the speed of light does things to you. I became grounded when an acquaintance noticed me tripping out and sat me down. He had dropped acid many times and experienced ego loss as well. The more he spoke, the more coherent I became. I eventually felt connected with the universe and felt as though I had reached Nirvana. Like I said, I'm far from a guru and can't say that I'm a Buddhist, but I've learned a lot from Buddhism and meditating.


When you have an anxiety attack it's hard to rationalize things. The more you fight it, the tighter the mental straight jacket becomes. You have to calm down using whatever method you can and just let it pass. I find that analyzing my attacks and asking myself questions really helps to snap out of it. I often forget the lessons I've learned from tripping and/or meditating so sometimes it takes a minute or two to become grounded. But I really think the two helped. I used to live with crippling depression and social anxiety. When I tried talking to my family about it they just shrugged me off as an emotional teen who was going through a phase. But it certainly affected me for a long time. I had a hard upbringing but it molded me into the person I am now.

I know so many people who are quick to do drugs and just wallow in pity because of their mental challenges... such a waste of energy. Again, if there's a problem that can't be solved then wasting your energy on negativity will only make things worse. If there is a resolution in sight, work towards it. A lot of people are mentally exhausted for stupid little reasons. I think a lot of people are unnecessarily stressed out and just don't know how to cope with it. In this day and age, no one can afford being stressed out for no reason. It cripples the mind. I refuse to let myself stress out over the little things.

I think the take home message is to learn how to identify what's discomforting/causative from the "anxiety attacks". That'll take a whole shit ton off your chest right there. Hell, it'll probably resolve most anxiety attacks. But again, it's hard to be rational when you're sketching out. Identify the challenge and dissect it. Even if you have to say it out loud, do it. Go over with a fine tooth comb and laugh, because it's all in your mind. It's just a matter of perspective. With all the bullshit out there in the real world, are you going to become a slave to your own mind? That sounds pretty gay to me... I have no time to be owning myself when I might slip in the shower or get hit by a drunk driver on the way to work. Stop investing time in thinking negative thoughts and wallowing in pity. Should you be unable to cope with whatever difficulties on your own, talk to someone. It's much better than popping addictive drugs. Save those for recreational purposes. 8)

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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2008, 08:31:42 AM »
so basically anxiety is like a form of insecurity+depression ?  and there are medications to make you not feel that way ?  arent these just basically drugs like ecstacy and cocaine ?

My anxiety was from work and school issues. Working 50 hours a week and going to college 12 hours a week started to have a toll. i have never felt insecure that i can remember, I'm one of the few people who does not care what anyone thinks of me. never followed any trends, just dressed and acted how i wanted to. my problem is i am very high strung and i get stir crazy when i am not doing something, so having a busy schedule is just part of my way of thinking.

Smoking a little weed and meditation cured my problem. i usually don't recommend drugs to people, but weed helped me sleep so well and calmed me down, but i used in moderation at night only when i needed it. i would rather smoke a bowl than take a Zanax.

I have been following a Buddhist way of thinking for a while now, it helps more than anything else i have tried and as many of you know i am not religious. Glad to see I'm not the only one.

This author and his books changed my way of thinking. i suggest reading these two if you have an open mind and enjoy thinking differently.

http://www.amazon.com/Love-Knowledge-Tarthang-Tulku-Space/dp/0898001692/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225121379&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Knowledge-Time-Space-Inquiry-Reality/dp/0898002060/ref=pd_sim_b_2

Tough reading, but worth it in the end.

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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2008, 08:32:44 AM »
My anxiety was from work and school issues. Working 50 hours a week and going to college 12 hours a week started to have a toll. i have never felt insecure that i can remember, I'm one of the few people who does not care what anyone thinks of me. never followed any trends, just dressed and acted how i wanted to. my problem is i am very high strung and i get stir crazy when i am not doing something, so having a busy schedule is just part of my way of thinking.

Smoking a little weed and meditation cured my problem. i usually don't recommend drugs to people, but weed helped me sleep so well and calmed me down, but i used in moderation at night only when i needed it. i would rather smoke a bowl than take a Zanax.

I have been following a Buddhist way of thinking for a while now, it helps more than anything else i have tried and as many of you know i am not religious. Glad to see I'm not the only one.

This author and his books changed my way of thinking. i suggest reading these two if you have an open mind and enjoy thinking differently.

http://www.amazon.com/Love-Knowledge-Tarthang-Tulku-Space/dp/0898001692/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225121379&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Knowledge-Time-Space-Inquiry-Reality/dp/0898002060/ref=pd_sim_b_2

Tough reading, but worth it in the end.

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The problem is when you go overboard the paranoia sets in & the anxiety increases.

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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2008, 08:37:47 AM »
The problem is when you go overboard the paranoia sets in & the anxiety increases.

True.

Most people smoke WAY too much and induce paranoia and anxiety.

The trick is to relax yourself and take 2-3 small hits of some high quality hydro.

I was never a stoner, i smoked by myself and enjoyed the calmness it "can" create.

it can also make you a lazy mess if you go overboard.

As with anything, moderation is key.

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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2008, 08:39:05 AM »
True.

Most people smoke WAY too much and induce paranoia and anxiety.

The trick is to relax yourself and take 2-3 small hits of some high quality hydro.

I was never a stoner, i smoked by myself and enjoyed the calmness it "can" create.

it can also make you a lazy mess if you go overboard.

As with anything, moderation is key.

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Amen.

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« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2008, 11:06:48 AM »
True.

Most people smoke WAY too much and induce paranoia and anxiety.

The trick is to relax yourself and take 2-3 small hits of some high quality hydro.

I was never a stoner, i smoked by myself and enjoyed the calmness it "can" create.

it can also make you a lazy mess if you go overboard.

As with anything, moderation is key.

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 so a 13 blunt session session in a hotboxed kia spectra between 3 people isnt a good idea for an insecure teenager with pre existing anxiety ?? ?  :-X

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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2008, 11:30:39 AM »
I would try Ativan first bro.
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