Pro's, "influencers" discussing cycles, gear etc.

[illuminati]

Why not?

I know guys who are doing their first beginners contest and they take:

1000 Test
600 gr Tren
600 Mast
100 Anadrol per day
6 HGH

Can you imagine Big Ramy

https://www.evolutionary.org/big-ramy-steroids

More fool you & Those 1st Timers.
Carry on.

Oh & I’ve a really nice Bridge to Sell You.

[Christo]

More fool you & Those 1st Timers.
Carry on.

Oh & I’ve a really nice Bridge to Sell You.

Why fool?
It is the hard true

[illuminati]

Why fool?
It is the hard true

What is “the hard true” ? Mean ?

So they’re using higher amounts than Dorian as Mr Olympia
Yep they’ve clearly got the right perspective.
Though I do take into account most of the Gear out there is sub standard
In quality & dosage.

[Christo]

What is “the hard true” ? Mean ?

So they’re using higher amounts than Dorian as Mr Olympia
Yep they’ve clearly got the right perspective.
Though I do take into account most of the Gear out there is sub standard
In quality & dosage.

I think you have never seen the real AAS cycle of Yates....

[illuminati]

I think you have never seen the real AAS cycle of Yates....

You didn’t explain what “the hard True” meant ?

And what on Earth makes you come to that conclusion that I don’t know what pretty much
What Dorian was using.  - Please explain ??

[dj181]

You didn’t explain what “the hard True” meant ?

And what on Earth makes you come to that conclusion that I don’t know what pretty much
What Dorian was using.  - Please explain ??

Those with sub par genetics believe that you need to blast grams and grams of gear to be big 200+ @ 5-6% when in reality they just have sub-par genetics and could never get that big in that condition no matter how much they took (some are just genetically blessed in this regard and no I'm not one of them)

So basically they think that since they can't get to a big conditioned size on a reasonable dose of gear they could do so if they were just willing to blast tons of gear and yet they would never be able to do so due to thier sub-par genetics

And no its not due to a lack of a proper diet or proper training either, they basically just don't have the genes for it, end of story

[Christo]

You didn’t explain what “the hard True” meant ?

And what on Earth makes you come to that conclusion that I don’t know what pretty much
What Dorian was using.  - Please explain ??

The hard true is that a lot of gymrats are using lot of anabolics nowadays.
You're note about Dorian didn't make sense. Do you really believe Dorian took only moderest amounts of AAS?  
You believe in fairytales.

[Christo]

Those with sub par genetics believe that you need to blast grams and grams of gear to be big 200+ @ 5-6% when in reality they just have sub-par genetics and could never get that big in that condition no matter how much they took (some are just genetically blessed in this regard and no I'm not one of them)

So basically they think that since they can't get to a big conditioned size on a reasonable dose of gear they could do so if they were just willing to blast tons of gear and yet they would never be able to do so due to thier sub-par genetics

And no its not due to a lack of a proper diet or proper training either, they basically just don't have the genes for it, end of story

Partly true.
At a certain level, every contender has good genetics, so the difference is who can handle the most AAS and other substances.(chemical warfare)
Or do you believe the olympia contenders for example Roelly Winklaar are using only moderest amounts of AAS/Slin etc?
Keep on dreaming.

[Christo]

Those with sub par genetics believe that you need to blast grams and grams of gear to be big 200+ @ 5-6% when in reality they just have sub-par genetics and could never get that big in that condition no matter how much they took (some are just genetically blessed in this regard and no I'm not one of them)

So basically they think that since they can't get to a big conditioned size on a reasonable dose of gear they could do so if they were just willing to blast tons of gear and yet they would never be able to do so due to thier sub-par genetics

And no its not due to a lack of a proper diet or proper training either, they basically just don't have the genes for it, end of story

Straight from Chad Nichols to a top Mr Olympia competitor for his offseason




- wake up and take 100mcg t4, 25mcg t3, 6iu serostim subq
- 30mins after gh shot, take 10iu humalog IM and eat breakfast (2 cups oats, 2 cups egg whites, 1-2 bananas, avoid fats!)
- 2 hours later, pre workout meal: same as breakfast plus 2 tablespoons of peanut butter to keep carbs in system longer
- 20 mins pre workout take 15iu humulin-r IM
- while working out sip on 150g dextrose, 2 scoops BCAA's and 2 scoops of creatine
- immediately post workout drink 100g whey protein
- 20-30 mins later take 6iu serostim IV
- 20-30 mins after the gh eat a meal high in protein and high in carbs but low in fat (12-16oz chicken breast, 2 sweet potatoes, etc)
- 2 hours later take 10iu humalog IM and eat another meal high in protein and carbs but low in fat
- rest of the meals you can start to eat some red meat, add some fats, etc

3,000mg testosterone any ester
1,200mg deca
1,200mg eq
30 days on/30 days off anadrol 100-150mg
12iu serostim taken in 2 shots as directed
100mcg t4 every morning
25mcg t3 every morning
humulin-r and humalog taken as directed


Frank Mcgrath is probably one of the biggest bodybuilders out there, he has some freaky size and great symmetry. His shredded lower back is almost like none other. Albeit, he has suffered some set backs in his career. In 2008, he tore his tricep in training, and was away from professional bodybuilding for sometime. Thereafter, in 2010, he had a serious card accident and had his spleen removed. The man is a machine! After having his spleen removed, he came back to bodybuilding!!! That’s admirable in one way, but very scary in another. These guys use a lot of drugs to stay on top, and it’s scary to think how these injuries are going to impact his health.

A lot of guys have contacted me lately, asking what kind of steroids cycle Frank Mcgrath is doing, and what steroids does he run during his season (on and off). I’m going to throw up a general steroid cycle that Frank Mcgrath is doing, like all the other pros. Keep in mind, I’m going to put out JUST his steroid use NOT his insulin, HGH, DNP etc. use. That’s a completely different ballgame.

Frank Mcgrath Steroids Cycle

Week Testosterone
Cypionate

Sustanon Anadrol Cardarine
GW-

501516

Ostarine
MK-
2866

Trenbolone
Acetate

Aromasin
1 1000mgs/
monday

1000mgs/
wed+fri

100mgs/
ED 30mgs/
ED

25mgs
/ED

200mgs/
ED

50mgs/
ED

2 1000mgs/
monday

1000mgs/
wed+fri

100mgs/
ED 30mgs/
ED

25mgs/
ED

200mgs/
ED

50mgs/
ED

3 same same same same 25mgs/ED 200mgs/
ED

50mgs/
ED

4 same same same same 25mgs/ED same same
5 same same same same 25mgs/ED same same
6 same same same same 25mgs/ED same same
7 same same same same same same same
8 same same same same same same same
9 same same same same same same same
10 same same same same same same same
11 same same OFF same same same same
12 same same OFF same same same same
13 same same OFF same same same same
14 same same OFF same same same same
15 same same OFF same same same same
16 same same 100mgs/
ED same same same same
17 same same 100mgs/
ED same same same same
18 same same 100mgs/
ED same same same same
19 same same 100mgs/
ED same same same same
20 same same 100mgs/
ED same same same same

[Christo]

You didn’t explain what “the hard True” meant ?

And what on Earth makes you come to that conclusion that I don’t know what pretty much
What Dorian was using.  - Please explain ??

dorian yates:week 1----2000mg test cyp---150mg dbol/a day
week 1----2000mg test cyp---150mg dbol/a day
week 2 ----3000mg test cyp---200mg dbol/a day
week 3-----4000mg test cyp---300mg dbol/day
week 4 -----5000mg test cyp---no dbol
week 5------3000mg test susp---200mg anadrol
week 6------4000mg test susp---300mg anadrol
week 7-------4000mg test susp---400mg anadrol
week 9-------10,000 iu hcg--800mg clomid
week10-------20,000iu hcg--1000mg clomid
week 11------4000mg test prop---100mg halotestin
week 12------4000mg test prop----200mg hal0
weel 13-------5000mg test prop----300mg halo
week 14-------3000mg test sus-----300mg halo----1000mg masterone
week 15-------4000mg test sus-----400mg halo----1000mg masterone
weekl 16-------10,000iu hcg---1000mg clomid
week 17--------20,000iu hcg---2000mg clomid
week 18--------30 ,000iu hcg---3000mg clomid
week 20---------2500mg test susp---1000mg of fina---
weel 21----------3500mg test susp--1500mg of fina
week 22----------4500mg test susp--20oomg of fina
week 23 ----------5000mg test susp---2500mg of fina
week 24 ----------1500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 25-----------2500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 26 -----------3500 mg test prop----300mg anadrol---1000mg masterone/day
week 27------------1500mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200mg winng/day
week 29------------1500 mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200 mg winny/day
week 30 ------------1500mg test susp------100mg anadrol---300mg

---------- Toegevoegd om 23:24 ---------- De post hierboven werd geplaatst om 23:19 ----------

[illuminati]

dorian yates:week 1----2000mg test cyp---150mg dbol/a day
week 1----2000mg test cyp---150mg dbol/a day
week 2 ----3000mg test cyp---200mg dbol/a day
week 3-----4000mg test cyp---300mg dbol/day
week 4 -----5000mg test cyp---no dbol
week 5------3000mg test susp---200mg anadrol
week 6------4000mg test susp---300mg anadrol
week 7-------4000mg test susp---400mg anadrol
week 9-------10,000 iu hcg--800mg clomid
week10-------20,000iu hcg--1000mg clomid
week 11------4000mg test prop---100mg halotestin
week 12------4000mg test prop----200mg hal0
weel 13-------5000mg test prop----300mg halo
week 14-------3000mg test sus-----300mg halo----1000mg masterone
week 15-------4000mg test sus-----400mg halo----1000mg masterone
weekl 16-------10,000iu hcg---1000mg clomid
week 17--------20,000iu hcg---2000mg clomid
week 18--------30 ,000iu hcg---3000mg clomid
week 20---------2500mg test susp---1000mg of fina---
weel 21----------3500mg test susp--1500mg of fina
week 22----------4500mg test susp--20oomg of fina
week 23 ----------5000mg test susp---2500mg of fina
week 24 ----------1500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 25-----------2500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 26 -----------3500 mg test prop----300mg anadrol---1000mg masterone/day
week 27------------1500mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200mg winng/day
week 29------------1500 mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200 mg winny/day
week 30 ------------1500mg test susp------100mg anadrol---300mg

---------- Toegevoegd om 23:24 ---------- De post hierboven werd geplaatst om 23:19 ----------

Are you Stupid or just being obtuse ?
You’re completely unable to answer simple straight forward questions
Either Answer or Fuck off with your stupidity.

[dj181]

Guess what year this photo was taken?

1975

And that's a pretty well developed fella there without huge gear doses and before slin and gh were even around/available

[Christo]

Are you Stupid or just being obtuse ?
You’re completely unable to answer simple straight forward questions
Either Answer or Fuck off with your stupidity.

You believe in fairytales.

[illuminati]

You believe in fairytales.

Very Clearly you are devoid of any intelligent ability
You’re incapable of answering simple questions, They’re to difficult for you.

Carry on in your fantasy land



Now Fuck Off  Gimmick                 Now Fuck Off  Gimmick

[WalterWhite]

At around 11:30 the drug talk begins.  Some would consider Chris's off season test dose "trt" .   Also he has never used GH or slin.

[dj181]

At around 11:30 the drug talk begins.  Some would consider Chris's off season test dose "trt" .   Also he has never used GH or slin.

Not more than 500 mgs test off season and test only for cbum

Like I said before genetics rule

[IroNat]

Guess what year this photo was taken?

1975

And that's a pretty well developed fella there without huge gear doses and before slin and gh were even around/available

That's subject to your definition of "huge" but yes, certainly not the insanity of today.

[dj181]

That's subject to your definition of "huge" but yes, certainly not the insanity of today.

From what I read back in 70s the drugs used were dbol, deca, primo, winny and anavar and the powerlifters used test more than BB

A common bulk stack back then was 400 mgs deca and 20-25 mgs dbol

Cutting was 200 mgs primo and 30 mgs var or winny

Just listened to Milos and he said he never ran more than 750 mgs of test a week in the 90s

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3JRQH8Q4Lks

[dj181]

This photo is from 1967

Wonder what he was running?

Highly doubt it was grams of even 1 gram of gear, also no slin and gh around back then

[Orhan]

i dont know why people still try to convince each other about pro dosages.

You retards who think pro's get to 270 single digit on same doses we cant reach 190 in singles. like what the fuck do you think these guys are made of? some superhuman genetic? and if theyre so fuking swole on 500mg test, and their entire life and existence and purpose is to get jacked and win olympia. but nahhhh they wanna be safe running their 500mg test coz theyre happy with their size LOL, you guys keep doing your thing.

Christo, you are 100% right, but give up trying to convince others of your point of view, its liberating to let them believe whatever they like, let them idlose and put these drug abusers at god status for no reason as if they are special.

[Orhan]

From what I read back in 70s the drugs used were dbol, deca, primo, winny and anavar and the powerlifters used test more than BB

A common bulk stack back then was 400 mgs deca and 20-25 mgs dbol

Cutting was 200 mgs primo and 30 mgs var or winny

Just listened to Milos and he said he never ran more than 750 mgs of test a week in the 90s

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3JRQH8Q4Lks

biggest piece of shit liar as if he is telling the truth. he was smallest pro out there and syntholed the life out of his biceps, but yes only used 750 test makes sense, yet loaded his arms full of oil, cant you guys see wtf. why would they admit to using the actual dosages when there are retards like all of you who obsess over these meatheads and put them to god status, someone as insecure as a BB is really gonna say, "Nah bud come on im same as you buddy, i just abuse life out of test and tren and gh and slin and npp and eq...." then next time he sees you and you are also 250 8% and no respect left for him, hes not so special anymore. This is why BB is fucked, Usain Bolt can say yes i  do this, and u try it and cant run as fast. Bodybuild if you take what they take you will have the size!!! Now the beauty and symmetry, thats diff. also health, will you get sick and BP through roof? but the next guy is tolerating it and no sides? THATS genetics, not reaching 300lb on 300mg, fuck

[Orhan]

This photo is from 1967

Wonder what he was running?

Highly doubt it was grams of even 1 gram of gear, also no slin and gh around back then

i dont know height but he was probably sub 200, of course he wasnt running grams and grams of test and gh, but if u think he was running less than a gram of gear, somewhere between 1-2g u should know beter especially how long u been around.. But he will look better than you at 190, but using same cycle u will likely be give or take same weight, he will get u on quality and symmetry and illusioon of being much bigger. Those guys of old era were where they are because they looked 220 at 190, etc. Nowdays they look 250 and claiming 280, get it? thats why select few did it in 80s 70s and now every retard can become a BB with enough aas gh and slin, look at regan grimes, look at his neck, its off a 150lb twink coz he had no fondation before blwoing himself up like a rubber doll.

[Tovarishch_Smert]

I just wonder what motivates people to take these crazy amounts. 

its the fact that most of today's men 18-30 age range have been brought up with a sense of entitlement and that breeds laziness!
Instead of eating a ton and training like today is your last day on earth and doing that every day, day in and day out, which is just way too difficult for them, they pound gear like its candy.
So, they use lots of UGL gear and expect to be Mr Olympia. When they dont get the results they want, they dont rethink their training, their diet, and the limitations of their genetics.... they just add more drugs.
The cycle repeats and what you have is idiots taking huge amounts of all types of gear, not just Tren.
What happens to these types is very predictable - they end up burnt out, look like shit, and have all the sides to show for it ... or they end up in the worst place possible - 6 feet under ground!
There are so many dumb asses pushing huge doses of Tren into their bodies and they have no clue how evil that compound is!

[antonio8t]

Frank Mcgrath is probably one of the biggest bodybuilders out there, he has some freaky size and great symmetry. His shredded lower back is almost like none other. Albeit, he has suffered some set backs in his career. In 2008, he tore his tricep in training, and was away from professional bodybuilding for sometime. Thereafter, in 2010, he had a serious card accident and had his spleen removed. The man is a machine! After having his spleen removed, he came back to bodybuilding!!! That’s admirable in one way, but very scary in another. These guys use a lot of drugs to stay on top, and it’s scary to think how these injuries are going to impact his health. A lot of guys have contacted me lately, asking what kind of steroids cycle Frank Mcgrath is doing, and what steroids does he run during his season (on and off). I’m going to throw up a general steroid cycle that Frank Mcgrath is doing, like all the other pros. Keep in mind, I’m going to put out JUST his steroid use NOT his insulin, HGH, DNP etc. use. That’s a completely different ballgame.

Of course, I have no doubt that people were shocked and impressed by his muscles, that's why they simply wanted to know information about steroids. Talking of that, I can share with you this great website called Steroidninja because it has plenty of positive reviews and recommendations. I also purchased steroids from it, four times already and they delivered them in the shortest terms.

[bigbychoices]

      thats rick wayne in that pic. he was a decent bodybuilder but very very racist. ( like all blacks) well actually rick is from the caribbean or something. not a native to the usa.  rick was about 5ft 8 or 9 i think under 200 lbs. i think competed about 185 or so.  anyways the guys back in the day all built a good foundation before using roids. so when they say its only the finishing touch or it helps 5 percent or whatever then for them they are not lying. because they went as far as they could BEFORE using roids. and their doses were in fact low ( compared to nowdays) and it was deca dball primo winstrol and sometimes parabolin . very few used test.  notice they all looked different no one had really bad skin or lost their hair etc.  now days guys start using gear as soon as they start lifting. everyone want a shortcut. and yes the pros use alot . ALOT . and notice tose guys from yesteryear are living long lives. they used for 8 weeks or so went off 8weeks or so then repeated.  arnold would deflate after the olympia and then be big for the next mr olympia.  these guys now days dont come off. they switch compounds but stay on. plus all the slin hgh rec drugs thyroid dnp etc etc.  its chemical warfare NOT bodybuilding. bring back real bodybuilding, big, muscular ,proportionate symmetrical  and can actually pose.