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Title: The Mature thread
Post by: WOOO on November 09, 2012, 04:38:31 AM
only on Friday, barbell curls and skull crushers. I think my arms are worked enough with all the pressing and rowing. i then on Friday concentrate on only two exercises for Five sets each.

obviously my reading skills are not what they once were...

makes sense
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 09, 2012, 06:32:05 AM
Looks like a solid routine. Even though I use a bodybuilder type routine for myself I do realize the body part mentality of bodybuilding is sometimes foolish. Your body does anything athletically as a unit. Therefore just using something like power cleans and presses really does work the body as a whole. Does doing 4 types of curls in a routine do anything to make you a better athlete?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 09, 2012, 10:46:51 AM
I TRAIN 4 DAYS PER WK ..44 YRS OLD
MON CHEST/TRI/ABS EXAMPLE
FDB PRESS WARMUP THE 3 SETS 12/10/6-8
INC SMITH OR INC DBBELL 3 SETS SAME REP PATTERN SOMETIMES LAST SET WITH DROP

LOWER HAMMER PRESS X3 10/10/8
DIPS X2 15/20 REPS
FLYES OR CABLE CROSSOVERS TOTAL 14-15 SETS MAXX

TRIS
EXTENSIONS X3 15/12/8-12
DIP MACHINE X3 10-12 HIGHER REPS FOR TRIS
SEATED EXTENSION X3
TRI KICK BACKS CABLE X2 11 SETS TOTAL
 ABS ,,

WED BACK ,,BI'S ..ABS

CHINS X3 15/12/12
BENT OVER OR TBAR ROW X3 12/10/8
SEATED CABLE ROWS X3 10/10/10
REVERSE PULLDOWNS X3
SINGLE ARM DB ROW OR STANDUP PULLDOWN OR SINGLE ARM CABLE ROW 2/3 ,,,14/15 SETS TOTAL

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3 12/15 REPS

BIS
CURLS X3 12/10/10
INC OR STANDING DB CURL X3 10//10/8
SCOTT CURL MACHINE X3  USUALLY 9 TOTAL SETS

ABS

THURS DELTS,FOREARMS,CALVES

SMITH FR PRESS WARMUP 3 WORKING SETS 12/10/8/6
SIDE LATERALS X3 10/10/8
REVERSE CABLE LATERALS REAR DELT X3
UPRIGHT ROW X3
SOMETIMES FINISH DB PRESS X3 13/14 WORKING SETS

SHRUGS FR AND REAR X3,,X3,,

FOREARMS OLS SCHOOL WEIGHTED ROPE ROLLUPS
REVERSE CABLE BEHIND BACK WRIST CURLS X3

CALVES STANDING CALF RAISE EITHER 4-5 SETS 12-15 REPS OR TOE POSITION CHANGE SETS SAME WEIGHT BUT 3 TOE POSITIONS

SAT LEGS,,,
WARMUP SETS EITHER LIGHT SQUAT OR EXTENSIONS
AFTER WARMUP START HEAVY EXTENSION'S HEAVY AS STACK AT TIMES X3 12/12/12
SQUAT EITHER SHOULDER OR FEET CLOSE TOGETHER X3 12/10/10/8
LEG PRESS X3
WALKING LUNGES WEIGHTED X3

HAMS
SLDL X4
LEG CURL SEATED OT LYING X3

CALVES
LEG PRESS TOE PRESS X3
SEATED CALF RAISE X3 OR 3 SET DROPS 10 REPS PER SET

ZERO CARDIO ,,1 HR TO 1 HR 20 PER WORKOUT....DIET MEAL 1 EGG BEATERS WITH WHEAT SLICES 2,,MEAL 2 GREEK YOGURT WITH SCOOP
PROTEIN AND BANANA OR SHAKE MIXED WITH BANANA PB BUTTER,,,MEAL 3 TUNA /BROWN RICE 1 CUP OR CHICKEN/RICE ,TUNA SANDWHICH
MEAL 4 DINNER AT HOME VEGGIES,PROTEIN CARB,,MEAL 5 AFTER WORKOUT CEREAL WITH PROTEIN POWDER OR SHAKE ,,EXTRAS INCLUDE

 LOW FAT GRAHAM CRACKERS,,,WHEAT CRACKERS,,LOW FAT ICECREAM WHEN IN MOOD,,,EXRTRA FATS PBUTTER,OLIVE OIL,,
I DO NOT COUNT CALORIES I EAT WHEN HUNGRY TRY TO EAT CLEAN AND OR CLEAN JUNK IF NEEDED LOL,,,ALWAYS HAVE ABS..STILL PRETTY DAMN STRONG AND GREAT ENERGY ,,,SLEEP 6-7 HRS PER DAY AND 2 GIRLS 3 AND 7.

HAVE A LOT OF PICTURES HERE WILL POST IF ASKED,,,,,

FINISH UP WITH SUPP'S I USE MULTI VITAMIN,CREATINE OFF AND ON ,,,3 GRAMS ARGININE BEFORE WORKOUT,PROTEIN MIX 2 X PER DAY,
THATS IT AND REGULAR COFFEE NO STIMULANT TYPE PREWORKOUT OTHER THAN CREA/ARGINE MY OWN BLEND.


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 09, 2012, 10:59:16 AM
Great post.....very detailed and i liked reading  about your diet  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on November 09, 2012, 11:25:45 AM
61 years old only 3 days out of every 7 now. alt workouts. mon weds friday. 2  diff w/o's.  w/o 1= back 8 sets pulldowns long bar 15-20 reps 100 lbs constant,8 sets with parrarll bar8-15 reps various grips including close palms facing back increasing weight from 100-150 lbs. 2 sets of chins bdwt 22 reps each set. parallel grip chins 2 sets 12. db rows 50 lb dbs 5 sets of 15 reps. chest benchpress 6-8 sets 90 lbs to 225 less reps as wt increases. pushups on parralell bars 6 sets of 20-30 reps. 5 sets high incline db presses 30-60 lbs 30-15 reps as wt increases. 3 sets calf raises 3 sets leg ext leg curls. various ab work.  second workout is 5 diff exercisesof 3 sets each for bis and tris. some ab work that's it. i keep alt workouts every other time. eat mostly chicken and fish potatoes and rice, and various other vegetables.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on November 09, 2012, 11:28:00 AM
this is how i looked when i was younger. worked out hard but ate and drank everything and anything.no drugs of any kind
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 10, 2012, 05:08:45 AM
Funk you looked solid built in the picture. I take it even then you did old school full body type workouts?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: WOOO on November 10, 2012, 10:50:27 AM
i came here expecting other content :-[

ha ha.... no one else thought about making such a hilarious comment
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 11, 2012, 10:44:51 AM
I am glad to have found this thread, since I definitely qualify to post here. But right now I have to go pee....again. That's a joke. Actually it is time for me to have breakfast. The idea of the tread is great.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on November 11, 2012, 11:52:52 AM
Funk you looked solid built in the picture. I take it even then you did old school full body type workouts?
yup only then it was much heavier and not as regimented just used the jc grimek 1000 exercise principle of instinctive training.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 11, 2012, 01:52:49 PM
So before I contribute to this tread, I need to know if being a somewhat "immature" 68 year old who still enjoys hitting the gym on an irregular basis is a qualifier? It has obviously been a really long time since I was just over 40 years old. With each decade that has passed since turning 40, I've modified my workouts, diet and goals. If there are folks who are interested in what this senior citizen does to stay in shape, then I will contribute by sharing my experiences.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 11, 2012, 02:52:45 PM
Primemuscle....please do tell us.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: WOOO on November 11, 2012, 03:51:19 PM
Hey, I'm only 34 but have made a lot of changes to my training over the last 12 months in an attempt to build for longevity... I'm listening (or rather reading)...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on November 11, 2012, 05:32:40 PM
Old guys are encouraged to share their trainings secrets for longevity as well as any ideas they have used to work around injuries from being young, dumb and reckless!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 11, 2012, 06:35:43 PM
Primemuscle....please do tell us.

For starters, I should clarify that I have not trained regularly since I was diagnosed with prostate cancer almost a year ago. At first I think I was just so bummed out, I lost interest in working out. After I had a prostatectomy last July, I was in recovery mode for awhile. Still, here it is November and I am fully recovered and doing fine and have yet to restart my workouts. I have no decent excuse for this, just a lot of silly ones.

Before I got sick, I weighed 225 lbs with about 14 to 15%  body-fat (my guesstimate). My waist measurement was 34 or 35" depending on how much I ate. My chest was and is 47". My arms were almost 17" and I hope growing. Anyway that gives you some idea of where I was at a year ago.

After the surgery, I weighed 192 lbs. Presently, I weigh 200 lbs. I haven't taken any measurements because I don't want to get depressed! What I do know is that 36" pants are comfortable, but not tight in the waist and that is depressing to me. Considering my height, which is currently 5' 10 1/2" and my bone structure, which is fairly large, having a 36" waistline is not ideal. I'd prefer 32"....but that may never happen.

When last I was exercising in earnest, I was working one muscle group a day. A complete cycle took 5 days. I made every effort to keep within a one hour time frame. I was working out as heavy as I ever had, so no real loss in strength over the years (it will be interesting to see how quickly I can recover the strength I had once I start back). Mainly, recovery time seems longer than when I was younger.

I have instructed myself to go to the gym tomorrow. I will remember to start out slowly and not expect to lift what I was lifting prior to quitting. Actually, I will stick to machines such as Nautilus equipment. I will start by doing 20 minutes of cardio because if i wait to do this after weight training I won't do it at all. My total workout will not last more than 1 hour. This first week back, I will only go to the gym every other day for three days, as in Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Each day I will work all muscle groups. Call this my warm-up period.

Initially, I will continue to limit my food intake so as not to start gaining any weight. I have, probably for the first time in my adult life decided that I want to be lean again. Well, not like I was before I started lifting as a teenager. Then I weighed only 144 lbs., but I think I might be good at between 175 and 180 lbs today. I have no intention of trying to break any personal lift records. My goal is to get my ass back in shape and stay in shape for the rest of my life.

Wish me luck and success.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 12, 2012, 02:13:41 AM
This is what this thread is all about primemuscle, motivating each other to get in shape AND stay in shape.Keep us up dated on any improvements and how you feel mentally. we all have good and bad Days and just coming in here can maybe help you. Sorry to read about your Health problems but you come over as a Fighter. NEVER give up. I have stepped up my cardio now and will lose a bit of flab. My 3 Day split will stay the same but more cardio and my diet i will sort out.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 12, 2012, 02:17:31 AM
Old guys are encouraged to share their trainings secrets for longevity as well as any ideas they have used to work around injuries from being young, dumb and reckless!
100%
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 12, 2012, 02:46:48 AM
This is what this thread is all about primemuscle, motivating each other to get in shape AND stay in shape.Keep us up dated on any improvements and how you feel mentally. we all have good and bad Days and just coming in here can maybe help you. Sorry to read about your Health problems but you come over as a Fighter. NEVER give up. I have stepped up my cardio now and will lose a bit of flab. My 3 Day split will stay the same but more cardio and my diet i will sort out.

Thanks for the welcome, Donny.

My hope is to use your thread as a catalyst for getting back in the game. I seriously need some inspiration and motivation. I believe that your thread can provide this for me. If I post here everyday, regardless of whether I do what I know I should or not, I think it will help me stay on target.

Today being Sunday (actually it is early Monday morning right now), I did not do much in the way of exercise. Because my wife has a lot of health issues, I spend a portion of everyday making sure she is OK. This is one of the reasons I retired when I did.

Look for tomorrow's post on the success of my Monday workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 12, 2012, 07:52:09 AM
Thanks for the welcome, Donny.

My hope is to use your thread as a catalyst for getting back in the game. I seriously need some inspiration and motivation. I believe that your thread can provide this for me. If I post here everyday, regardless of whether I do what I know I should or not, I think it will help me stay on target.

Today being Sunday (actually it is early Monday morning right now), I did not do much in the way of exercise. Because my wife has a lot of health issues, I spend a portion of everyday making sure she is OK. This is one of the reasons I retired when I did.

Look for tomorrow's post on the success of my Monday workout.
Thanks man, itīs not my thread itīs our thread ;) I replaced Flat Benches today with parallel bar dips...was great. really felt my pecs working.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Viking11 on November 12, 2012, 03:39:44 PM
So, no MILFS then?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on November 12, 2012, 04:10:52 PM
So, no MILFS then?
Well I've posted in here.  HAHA   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 12, 2012, 04:15:14 PM
Well I've posted in here.  HAHA   ;D
yes u have,,,, ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Viking11 on November 12, 2012, 04:34:46 PM
Well I've posted in here.  HAHA   ;D
Well then where's your training posts? Or at least naked workout pics?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on November 12, 2012, 04:43:47 PM
Let me interject here, this thread will be moderated at my discretion.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on November 12, 2012, 05:07:30 PM
Well then where's your training posts? Or at least naked workout pics?
Am just reading the thread.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Viking11 on November 12, 2012, 05:35:16 PM
Let me interject here, this thread will be moderated at my discretion.
All righty then, Cap'n Happy..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 12, 2012, 05:43:22 PM
I got home from the gym at about 4:30 p.m. My "workout" went well. I did 20 minutes of light cardio before jumping on the machines. My total time working out was a little shy of an hour. Because I have not seriously worked out for many months, I kept to resistance very light. As I mentioned, to get my ass back into a routine, I decided a full body work out done at least three times a week would be my initial goal.

Interestingly enough, I slept late this morning and when I finally got up, I found myself talking myself out of going to the gym today....not sure why. Anyway, I bit the bullet and went and now I am glad I did. Tomorrow I may go there and swim some laps. Wednesday, I be back on the machines and I'll increase the resistance slightly. I am going to take this one step and one day at a time.

One thing that is encouraging at the gym I go to is that there are a lot of us old farts who have spent a lot of our lives being gym rats. Of course there are also a lot of younger people who work out there too. It is a nice mix. I was amused by a fellow that spent more time setting up his laptop on treadmill then he did actually walking. I find I do best with minimal distractions, although I do like some tunes. My daughter gave me an Ipod a few years ago, which I am going to charge up for my next session.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 12, 2012, 05:45:27 PM
Let me interject here, this thread will be moderated at my discretion.

I hope you are being serious. It would be good if there was at least one thread which didn't veer off topic and was relatively serious. I am hoping....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on November 12, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
I hope you are being serious. It would be good if there was at least one thread which didn't veer off topic and was relatively serious. I am hoping....
Dead serious. There was a request for this sticky so some of the older, more experienced lifters could share their experiences and ideas. I will not allow this to turn into another flirty "show us your tits" thread. Everyone is welcome to contribute and offer ideas, but that other shit will be deleted. Take it to the g&o.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 12, 2012, 07:53:17 PM
I thought it would be good to also write about my diet, since some of us more mature types aren't following the same diet we did when our metabolisms were faster.

Today I had a bowl of Kashi Go Lean with 2% milk and a very small glass of orange juice for breakfast. Since I didn't get out of bed until the day was half over, I skipped lunch. My wife and I did go to Starbucks and I had a grande Chai latte. For dinner we had sautéed portabella mushroom "burgers" on whole wheat buns. I spread some artichoke dip on mine and had tomatoes on the side. Added to this was acorn squash on the side, with salt pepper and butter. To drink, I had a scotch neat.

As I write this I am drinking a cup of Chai tea, sans milk, but with one teaspoon of sugar. We will probably break open a package of harvest cookies from our local market in an hour or so. Harvest cookies are kind of like eating a granola bar that is instead a cookie. -Full of sugar, but fools you into thinking you are eating healthy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 12, 2012, 08:03:10 PM
I thought it would be good to also write about my diet, since some of us more mature types aren't following the same diet we did when our metabolisms were faster.

Today I had a bowl of Kashi Go Lean with 2% milk and a very small glass of orange juice for breakfast. Since I didn't get out of bed until the day was half over, I skipped lunch. My wife and I did go to Starbucks and I had a grande Chai latte. For dinner we had sautéed portabella mushroom "burgers" on whole wheat buns. I spread some artichoke dip on mine and had tomatoes on the side. Added to this was acorn squash on the side, with salt pepper and butter. To drink, I had a scotch neat.

As I write this I am drinking a cup of Chai tea, sans milk, but with one teaspoon of sugar. We will probably break open a package of harvest cookies from our local market in an hour or so. Harvest cookies are kind of like eating a granola bar that is instead a cookie. -Full of sugar, but fools you into thinking you are eating healthy.
cool prime,,,i did the tuna/chick/rice thing strict for yrs,,,still follow it but allow other things carb wise,some sugars. fruits,and even pasta ,,i still do zero cardio and maintain under 10 pct bf..training is important not drug's 1st then train ,,i have old school methods to this day,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 12, 2012, 08:10:30 PM
cool prime,,,i did the tuna/chick/rice thing strict for yrs,,,still follow it but allow other things carb wise,some sugars. fruits,and even pasta ,,i still do zero cardio and maintain under 10 pct bf..training is important not drug's 1st then train ,,i have old school methods to this day,,

I was thinking today about the possibility of using an energy booster like Ephedrine to jump-start weight loss. Any thoughts about this?

I have no issues with hypertension, so I was thinking it shouldn't be a problem for me to use it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 12, 2012, 08:13:58 PM
I was thinking today about the possibility of using an energy booster like Ephedrine to jump-start weight loss. Any thoughts about this?

I have no issues with hypertension, so I was thinking it shouldn't be a problem for me to use it.
yeah caffeine whether drink or using pills,or ephedra and bronkaid boosters which allow more blood and used to clear lungs..get heart rate going,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 12, 2012, 08:21:26 PM
yeah caffeine whether drink or using pills,or ephedra and bronkaid boosters which allow more blood and used to clear lungs..get heart rate going,,

-Right. Today when I was doing cardio, my heart rate never went above 106. I know I can get it up a lot higher, because I have done so in the past with no problem. However, I was easing into the whole work out thing today and didn't want to overdo any aspect of it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 12, 2012, 08:23:29 PM
-Right. Today when I was doing cardio, my heart rate never went above 106. I know I can get it up a lot higher, because I have done so in the past with no problem. However, I was easing into the whole work out thing today and didn't want to overdo any aspect of it.
good luck,,,take it easy lol,,,easier said than done,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2012, 02:01:10 AM
-Right. Today when I was doing cardio, my heart rate never went above 106. I know I can get it up a lot higher, because I have done so in the past with no problem. However, I was easing into the whole work out thing today and didn't want to overdo any aspect of it.
Just take it one step at a time but with Cardio you will be surprised how quick you get back in shape.I will be out pounding the streets again tonight and there is a nice route i will do. It starts flat and then inclines....inclines and when i am on my way back about 40 mins later i have to hit it again, it is a mental challange... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2012, 02:09:22 AM
Dead serious. There was a request for this sticky so some of the older, more experienced lifters could share their experiences and ideas. I will not allow this to turn into another flirty "show us your tits" thread. Everyone is welcome to contribute and offer ideas, but that other shit will be deleted. Take it to the g&o.
yes this is the idea behind this thread to keep it serious and on track.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on November 13, 2012, 09:46:25 AM
another thing here would be exercises that are useless and downright dangerous to do. for example the pulldown to the back is not a good exercise as it has contributed to more shoulder injuries than  it's worth from my experience.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 13, 2012, 09:51:36 AM
another thing here would be exercises that are useless and downright dangerous to do. for example the pulldown to the back is not a good exercise as it has contributed to more shoulder injuries than  it's worth from my experience.
skull crushers for me painful,useless,,,behind neck press ,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2012, 10:12:24 AM
What i find interesting is a gym i worked in had Hammer strengh machines, the Boss always said that supinated pull downs are hard for your shoulder. I have always had better results using this grip (under hand). I really do believe as you wrote Funky that behind the neck work is very hard for your shoulder structure. I loved the Hammer strength (supinated) grip pull down.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2012, 10:25:22 AM
skull crushers for me painful,useless,,,behind neck press ,,,,
skull crushers work for me ( try 2 Bells hammer grip maybe kinder to you ) but BB behind the neck press...terrible :(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on November 13, 2012, 11:12:35 AM
another shoulder wrecker is upright close grip rows for traps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2012, 11:15:40 AM
PRIMEMUSCLE....are you still with us ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 13, 2012, 01:30:45 PM
PRIMEMUSCLE....are you still with us ?

I had a breakfast meeting today. I just got home. -Nothing to post at the moment regarding exercise, since all I exercised so far today was my voice and a little hand to mouth action while eating. I'll get back to you in bit. I am headed to the gym to swim some laps in the next hour or so. When I get home there are leaves all over my yard begging to be raked up and put out with the yard debris recycle tonight. I may be otherwise occupied until this evening when I will post an update.

Keep in mind that I live in Oregon and what that means in terms of time zones. Presently, it is 1:35 p.m.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2012, 05:54:54 PM
I had a breakfast meeting today. I just got home. -Nothing to post at the moment regarding exercise, since all I exercised so far today was my voice and a little hand to mouth action while eating. I'll get back to you in bit. I am headed to the gym to swim some laps in the next hour or so. When I get home there are leaves all over my yard begging to be raked up and put out with the yard debris recycle tonight. I may be otherwise occupied until this evening when I will post an update.

Keep in mind that I live in Oregon and what that means in terms of time zones. Presently, it is 1:35 p.m.
Tomorrow i want you to move your arse
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on November 13, 2012, 07:43:50 PM
another thing here would be exercises that are useless and downright dangerous to do. for example the pulldown to the back is not a good exercise as it has contributed to more shoulder injuries than  it's worth from my experience.
Now I don't do this one all the time but never had any issue with it or bnp.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 13, 2012, 09:14:58 PM
Tomorrow i want you to move your arse

You jump to conclusions. I did move my butt. I went to the gym, swimming laps as planned for 30 minutes. I also enjoyed the sauna and the hot tub. After I was finish relaxing, I hit the high speed tanning bed for 7 minutes. When I got home from the gym, I raked leaves for about an hour.

Just as I was finishing this little leaf clean up project, my sister and her friend pulled in the driveway. They're still here.

Breakfast was off the menu from the Village Inn with two cups of coffee, see menu item below.* For lunch I went to Wendy's and ordered a dinner salad pomegranate vinaigrette. Since my sister and her friend arrived shortly before dinner and I felt the need to feed them, I gave them a choice between Papa Murphy's pizza or take out Chinese food from a local restaurant. They opted for Chinese take out. I ordered almond chicken, sub gum mien mien and fried shrimp for myself. The meal came with chicken fried rice, which I did not eat. We ate off the coffee table out of the to go boxes while watching Jeopardy. It was fun.

*Southwest Potato Pancake Benedict Scramble* Tender pork carnitas, sliced avocado, farm-fresh scrambled eggs, Pepper Jack cheese smothered with our zesty Green Chili Hollandaise atop two potato pancakes with a melon wedge.

I am only mildly sore from yesterday's workout, which is exactly what I was shooting for. Tomorrow I will repeat Monday's workout, increasing the weight resistance only slightly.

Incidentally, I weighed about 1/2 pound less today than yesterday. This is probably water loss. Still, if I could drop 10 to 12 pounds a month I should be right were I want to be in less then two months.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 13, 2012, 09:28:20 PM
another thing here would be exercises that are useless and downright dangerous to do. for example the pulldown to the back is not a good exercise as it has contributed to more shoulder injuries than  it's worth from my experience.

I don't find any exercises dangerous when I do them with good form and reasonable resistance. No exercise seems useless to me, how one does it might make it ineffective though. Sometimes hand position is everything. Pull-downs are much more comfortable when done on a machine that allow you to grip the handles with your palms facing each other. I am a big fan of slow deliberate movements as opposed to going all herky jerky. Everyone I know who has experience injuries was doing the exercise incorrectly, either by using too much weight or by not following good form.

To the best of my recollection, I have never sustained an injury from weight training. I have twisted my knee when running on uneven pavement though. I don't run now except on the treadmill for this reason. More often then not, even when using the treadmill, I will speed walk instead of running. I think this is just as beneficial and much lower impact.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 14, 2012, 03:06:39 AM
Primemuscle you are a good guy..you have character, i like this. Yes i am very blunt sometimes but i mean it well.Yesterday i had a great run about 50 mins with hill work. I then did 100 crunches (feet elevated on bench ) and 100 leg raises 2x 50 as after the crunches 100 straight was too much as after running your midsection is also active so i find after running good to hit them. Today is leg day and i will really squat hard. First 2 sets warm up then 3 working sets. I will do a tri set for calves..seated, standing and jumping rope.. this will hit it all and i will also hit my tibialis anterior with seated tibialis raises (weight plate on my toes). Yes today will be fun day  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 14, 2012, 03:14:32 AM
.. want to ask Chaos a question.. have you done jumping squats? as i have never tried them, with a light Barbell. I have heard they hit the calfes very good too. I will maybe try them today too if my legs are up to it.I want to specialize on my calfes because they are terrible...yes i know genetics.. :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on November 14, 2012, 09:39:06 AM
.. want to ask Chaos a question.. have you done jumping squats? as i have never tried them, with a light Barbell. I have heard they hit the calfes very good too. I will maybe try them today too if my legs are up to it.I want to specialize on my calfes because they are terrible...yes i know genetics.. :'(
use dumbells takes the strain off the  back. ;D. when i was young i used to use 75's for high reps.
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 14, 2012, 09:41:00 AM
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Post by: Donny on November 14, 2012, 09:58:14 AM
use dumbells takes the strain off the  back. ;D. when i was young i used to use 75's for high reps.
I did them today with an empty olympic bar. This was after my leg workout and i was sweating buckets. I hope i have sore calfes tomorrow !!
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Post by: Donny on November 14, 2012, 10:19:32 AM
  • My legs are short and therefore are one of the strongest parts of my body. I'd rather do leg work any day over upper body presses because my arms are rather long so I have to move the weight farther. Yeah I know, short legs and long arms brings up some funny imagery.

    I got interesting genetics from my parents. My father was 6'6" with really long legs. My mom was more proportionate at 5'8". Somehow I got my father's torso and arms and my mom's legs. My inseam is 31" while my sleeve length is 35". The good thing I got from both of them, although it didn't seem like it when I was younger, was they were both very lean. Better that then to inherit the tendency to be obese.
interesting point Primemuscle, i mean your parents really determine who you are body wise. Well it's funny because i have also a bit of both my parents. i am only 170cm, 5 7" but built and even if i do not train i am fairly solid. I got this from my Father who was also not big but was very strong and had really thick Forearms and a good broad build. I have a youngish face from my Mother and small hands for a man. sounds funny but it is so. Another thing i got from my Father was as a young guy a bad temper. My Father was a Butcher and was not a guy who showed emotion(where as i do ). He was very cold and very old school. He boxed as a young guy and by a lot of accounts was not bad and i trained too at an early age but Boxing for me had too many "rules". I found thrusting a finger in an eye more effective and other things.
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Post by: chaos on November 14, 2012, 11:14:52 AM
.. want to ask Chaos a question.. have you done jumping squats? as i have never tried them, with a light Barbell. I have heard they hit the calfes very good too. I will maybe try them today too if my legs are up to it.I want to specialize on my calfes because they are terrible...yes i know genetics.. :'(
Eh. Tried them once, the impact down the spine isn't worth it to me. For calves, ride a bike with your toes on the pedals.
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Post by: Donny on November 14, 2012, 11:18:37 AM
Eh. Tried them once, the impact down the spine isn't worth it to me. For calves, ride a bike with your toes on the pedals.
yes true but i just tried them Today as a finishing off movement. I really got a good workout.
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 14, 2012, 12:19:37 PM
Eh. Tried them once, the impact down the spine isn't worth it to me. For calves, ride a bike with your toes on the pedals.

Or move into my neighborhood and ride your bike on the hills.

I've tried everything imaginable short of using posing oil in my calves and while muscular, they are not swole in the least. Calves and forearms just are what they are. And yeah, I do forearm exercises....also to no avail.
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Post by: Donny on November 14, 2012, 12:26:35 PM
I would love to live near the sea and i could run bare foot and get a great workout for my calfes.
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 14, 2012, 12:29:05 PM
interesting point Primemuscle, i mean your parents really determine who you are body wise. Well it's funny because i have also a bit of both my parents. i am only 170cm, 5 7" but built and even if i do not train i am fairly solid. I got this from my Father who was also not big but was very strong and had really thick Forearms and a good broad build. I have a youngish face from my Mother and small hands for a man. sounds funny but it is so. Another thing i got from my Father was as a young guy a bad temper. My Father was a Butcher and was not a guy who showed emotion(where as i do ). He was very cold and very old school. He boxed as a young guy and by a lot of accounts was not bad and i trained too at an early age but Boxing for me had too many "rules". I found thrusting a finger in an eye more effective and other things.

I doubt a bad temper is genetic. However, we do learn from our parents. Some of us outgrown our early childhood development lessons, particularly when they don't serve us well. My mother had a horrible temper (like in being nuts), while my stepfather was very calm 99% of the time. I am not sure what my father's temperament was like, since I barely knew him, but I suspect he had issues. I am generally a very easygoing type personality, although I have my moments. -Guess I didn't completely overcome what my parents passed on to me.
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 14, 2012, 12:31:59 PM
I would love to live near the sea and i could run bare foot and get a great workout for my calfes.

Years ago, I ran with another fellow in the sand and muck which surrounds an island in the Columbia river near Rooster Rock State Park. It was a killer. -Better than weights on your ankles (which I suspect are not good for you).
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Post by: Donny on November 14, 2012, 12:42:49 PM
Years ago, I ran with another fellow in the sand and muck which surrounds an island in the Columbia river near Rooster Rock State Park. It was a killer. -Better than weights on your ankles (which I suspect are not good for you).
I love the sea and beach... donīt live near one but i would love to run in the sand bare foot.  ;D I believe Steve reeves did this but his lower legs were genetics.
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Post by: njflex on November 14, 2012, 03:52:52 PM
i will give a calf workout that hurts and works,,,i did 3 x per wk for long time and now 2x per wk i had to blast them and have built decent set of calves this is one exercise and done 1x per wk will get results,,,same weight is used through out cause the pain is intense,standing calf raise i use a number say 200 lbs on stack it goes ,,10 reps rest 5 sec,15 reps rest 10 sec,,,25 reps rest 10 sec,,back to 15 rest 10 then 10 to finish 75 reps total under minute rest a minute or so go again 2 times is plenty 150 reps less than 3 minutes,,,forearms i do old school weighted rope rolls up ,,down,up 3 x around...
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 14, 2012, 06:38:48 PM
-Not a lot to report here. I repeated my Monday workout routine today for the most part. I did about 5 more minutes of cardio and upped the Resistance on several exercises a little. Actually, I was a bit sore today prior to working out. That seems to be gone now. Oh, and I added forearm exercises on the Nautilus forearm machine. Incidentally, I move from one exercise to the next with no rest period and no shooting the breeze. While I am training, I am all business.

For breakfast, I had a cup of Greek yogurt with honey and a small glass of orange juice. For lunch I bought my wife and I grilled chicken club sandwiches from McDonald's. We are having chicken divan for dinner with a small salad. I drank about two quarts of water and had a couple of cups of coffee so far.

When I weighed myself at the gym today, I was 207....hmm, seem to be headed in the wrong direction. Anyway, I sat in the steam room for about 20 minutes after my workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: WOOO on November 15, 2012, 06:44:25 AM
it's normal to gain some weight when starting a lifting program (due to tissue inflammation)... it will pass

you can also look for ways to reduce your overall stress through meditation, going to a comedy club, watching a funny movie or playing a relaxing game of cards (whatever works for you)
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Post by: Donny on November 15, 2012, 07:05:28 AM
well later tonight i will go for a run with a friend. Running around the streets you see some funny things at times... ;D
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 15, 2012, 05:44:40 PM
Did not go to the gym today. Between taking my wife to two doctor's appointments, I climbed up on the roof to get the leaves off and then clean the gutters. My roof is a 6 in 12 pitch, shake roof. I have tie-on cleats for walking on the roof, so as not to slip, fall off and break something. This is not exactly the same as doing cardio but all that up and down the ladder and climbing on a slanted surface puts a lot of stress on areas you wouldn't think it would.  The roof and gutters are done now. Tomorrow I have fall yard clean up if the weather holds. It was dry and sunny today. In Oregon at this time of year that means you do fall cleanup, otherwise you'll be doing it in the rain which is not fun.

I tried to hire this job out this morning since my neighbors had people doing this work for them today. Unfortunately, the fellow doing their job does not work on shake roofs because they are too slippery....and he looked to be somewhere around 35 year old. Am I nuts for doing this myself? I think before next year I will install some way to tie myself off so I if I fall at least I'll dangle from a rope and not hit the ground.

Breakfast: small OJ and a cup of yogurt.

Mid morning: Potato bagel with butter and two cups of black coffee.

Lunch: a small bowl of vegetarian chili in the hospital cafeteria while my wife was getting a mammogram.

Dinner: Don't know what my wife is fixing yet. I saw a box of Rice-A-Roni on the counter. -Let you know later tonight or tomorrow.

The Rice-A-Roni was a red herring. We had corn, french cut green beans with almonds, Polish sausage, tomato and artichoke salad with, Stilton cheese crumbles and blue cheese dressing. I had a glass of Merlot. Right now, I am drinking a cup of Chai tea.

I soaked in the tub for about a half hour to ease the ache from all I did today. Going to the gym to workout would have been less taxing.
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Post by: Donny on November 16, 2012, 01:21:21 AM
you are quite right some jobs in the Garden and what you were doing are a workout too. I remember one job i did about 1995 was erecting scaffolding and that was a hell of a workout. climbing like a monkey all day and passing boards upwards it really hit your shoulders and back. It was summer and the painters were out big time so we had lots of work...funny thing is i do not really like heights and a few times i was living on my nerves,, ;D still needed the work and that was that. Today is shoulders and arms. I might also do Incline Db curls as i have not done them for a while... decisions...decisions.
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Post by: Donny on November 16, 2012, 07:32:03 AM
....so i will now go for an Hour walk for Fresh air and give my knees a rest from running. shoulders and arms were trained in my Home Gym. Feeling very motivated Today, i like to go for long walks too because i am alone with my thoughts...till later.
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 17, 2012, 04:30:57 PM
Did not get to the gym yesterday because I decided to take advantage of it not raining and clean up more leaves which covered the ground out front. So, I worked in the yard for about 3 hours.

Did not go to the gym today because it is my day off. And believe it or not, after climbing all over my roof on Thursday and then raking leaves for 3 hours on Friday, I am really sore. Guess I am turning into a wuss.
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Post by: Donny on November 18, 2012, 04:47:15 AM
Did not get to the gym yesterday because I decided to take advantage of it not raining and clean up more leaves which covered the ground out front. So, I worked in the yard for about 3 hours.

Did not go to the gym today because it is my day off. And believe it or not, after climbing all over my roof on Thursday and then raking leaves for 3 hours on Friday, I am really sore. Guess I am turning into a wuss.
nah...good workout and you no doubt kept your wife happy.. ;) I will have a quite day today as it's a rest day and it's pissing down with rain outside. I will later jump rope and do some crunches.
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Post by: njflex on November 18, 2012, 07:19:43 AM
intense leg workout sat,,,,leg presses ,,hack squats,,walking db lunges ...extensions,,,hams stiff legged deads supersetted with lying leg curls and calves standing calf raise superset with leg press calf extensions..
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Post by: Donny on November 18, 2012, 07:45:31 AM
that is a very intensive workout..good drills ;D
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Post by: njflex on November 18, 2012, 07:49:47 AM
that is a very intensive workout..good drills ;D
thanks,,, ;D ;)
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 18, 2012, 08:53:58 AM
nah...good workout and you no doubt kept your wife happy.. ;) I will have a quite day today as it's a rest day and it's pissing down with rain outside. I will later jump rope and do some crunches.

Ha, ha. My wife doesn't pay any attention to the leaves on the ground or the roof. I've always been the groundskeeper and the maintenance guy around the house. What makes my wife happy is taking her out to breakfast, a movie or reading to her. She's pretty easy to please.

It is raining here where I live too. -Supposed to rain all week according to the weather report.
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Post by: WOOO on November 18, 2012, 03:56:46 PM
Ha, ha. My wife doesn't pay any attention to the leaves on the ground or the roof. I've always been the groundskeeper and the maintenance guy around the house. What makes my wife happy is taking her out to breakfast, a movie or reading to her. She's pretty easy to please.

It is raining here where I live too. -Supposed to rain all week according to the weather report.

i like running in the rain... not sure why because i hate walking in it.... but if it's raining on one of the 2 days where i'm planning to go for a run then i'm a happy man... just me and the sound of the rain drops
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Post by: Donny on November 19, 2012, 02:27:47 AM
i like running in the rain... not sure why because i hate walking in it.... but if it's raining on one of the 2 days where i'm planning to go for a run then i'm a happy man... just me and the sound of the rain drops
Wooo you are hardcore. Well i do myself and even in snow. Once you get warmed up you do not feel the cold. Remember doing boxing training in the Army running in the snow wearing army boots. looked funny tracksuit and army boots but it really got you fit. We run through the forests and over Tank ranges and our training was hard but primitive, Wooo you would have loved it..just your style. So today i will start of my chest / back workout with back, sternum pull-ups ala Gironda. Normaly i start with chest but today i will change it for interest
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Post by: Donny on November 19, 2012, 09:14:35 AM
Tonight was very hard. I had to drop weight on my incline Db presses and drop 1 set from each ex. Instead of 4 sets i did 3...i put this down to me now eating better and cutting calories and junk food. Went for my run direct after weight training and i knew it would hurt. Half way round i just went into a state of zen, i canīt explain it i just detach my mind from the bodily pain. I got to my favourite hill on the way back...itīs sickening because it rises..and rises... i have a name for it, "Bastard". I swear i was detached from the pain. i made it. I will shower and eat now and flop on my sofa.. ;D
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Post by: WOOO on November 19, 2012, 03:52:48 PM
Tonight was very hard. I had to drop weight on my incline Db presses and drop 1 set from each ex. Instead of 4 sets i did 3...i put this down to me now eating better and cutting calories and junk food. Went for my run direct after weight training and i knew it would hurt. Half way round i just went into a state of zen, i canīt explain it i just detach my mind from the bodily pain. I got to my favourite hill on the way back...itīs sickening because it rises..and rises... i have a name for it, "Bastard". I swear i was detached from the pain. i made it. I will shower and eat now and flop on my sofa.. ;D

sounds like fun! never worry about dropping sets or weight... a long as the muscle feels exhausted then you're good to go
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Post by: njflex on November 19, 2012, 06:45:03 PM
i like drops did fdb press warmup then 3 sets,,incline db 10 reps with drop till failure ,,seated chest with pin stack,,bodyweight dips,,finish cable crossovers..
tris supersetted smith close grip with lying db extensions ,,pushdowns and seated tri dip machine normal set ,rest,partner went,,abs to finish,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 19, 2012, 11:35:49 PM
I thought about not posting today because I did not make it to the gym again. However, it seems to me one of the aspects of being mature is that there are ever more things we have to deal with which can impact our commitment to working out.

Today I drove in driving rain 40 miles to Oregon's state capitol because a corporation I chair had our monthly board meeting. As chair, I am obligated to show up for meetings. And as for the drive, other board members show up from all over the state for these board meetings, so I have no excuse for not attending.

My plan was to go directly to the gym before coming home tonight. That did not work out as planned. My sister who lives in Salem, OR has been going through some difficulty. She called me crying into my cell just as I was headed back to Portland. So I literally flipped a U and drove back  to comfort her. By the time I got home it was dinner time and I was worn out.

Sometimes I wish my life were as uncomplicated as it was when I was in my 20's. In those days, I was able to be so self-absorbed that nothing got in the way of a workout. That is not so much the case these days.

Hopefully, tomorrow's report will be more on topic.

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Post by: Donny on November 20, 2012, 02:15:49 AM
I thought about not posting today because I did not make it to the gym again. However, it seems to me one of the aspects of being mature is that there are ever more things we have to deal with which can impact our commitment to working out.

Today I drove in driving rain 40 miles to Oregon's state capitol because a corporation I chair had our monthly board meeting. As chair, I am obligated to show up for meetings. And as for the drive, other board members show up from all over the state for these board meetings, so I have no excuse for not attending.

My plan was to go directly to the gym before coming home tonight. That did not work out as planned. My sister who lives in Salem, OR has been going through some difficulty. She called me crying into my cell just as I was headed back to Portland. So I literally flipped a U and drove back  to comfort her. By the time I got home it was dinner time and I was worn out.

Sometimes I wish my life were as uncomplicated as it was when I was in my 20's. In those days, I was able to be so self-absorbed that nothing got in the way of a workout. That is not so much the case these days.

Hopefully, tomorrow's report will be more on topic.


Family comes first, you are a good man Prime...a man of integrity.
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Post by: Donny on November 20, 2012, 02:29:09 AM
Today i will rest...well maybe jump rope and some abs.. ;) I have a couple of arm pads for tai boxing( i just use them for punching and kicking training, as i have no where to hang a boxing bag)Gives a nice workout keeps my shoulders loose and i have to admit my chest is sore today although i did less weight and sets but i did more reps so maybe it was good for me. Any of you guys jump rope too? I have a leather rope that i have had for years.
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 20, 2012, 01:30:48 PM
Today i will rest...well maybe jump rope and some abs.. ;) I have a couple of arm pads for tai boxing( i just use them for punching and kicking training, as i have no where to hang a boxing bag)Gives a nice workout keeps my shoulders loose and i have to admit my chest is sore today although i did less weight and sets but i did more reps so maybe it was good for me. Any of you guys jump rope too? I have a leather rope that i have had for years.

I have not jumped rope in years. I should give it a try. It would afford me the opportunity to get some cardio in at home. As it stands the only home equipment I own is a treadmill and that just gets boring after awhile.
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Post by: Donny on November 20, 2012, 01:53:10 PM
I have not jumped rope in years. I should give it a try. It would afford me the opportunity to get some cardio in at home. As it stands the only home equipment I own is a treadmill and that just gets boring after awhile.
I like to do it as a warm up and when i do not run. I prefer to run but it is an alternative if the weather is bad. Good thing is my calfes get a workout as i wrote before they are a weak point !
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Post by: Donny on November 20, 2012, 01:55:50 PM
play your favourite music and itīs fun.. ;)
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Post by: njflex on November 20, 2012, 01:59:22 PM
I like to do it as a warm up and when i do not run. I prefer to run but it is an alternative if the weather is bad. Good thing is my calfes get a workout as i wrote before they are a weak point !

HIT EM HARD I POSTED A GOOD BURN ONE UP A FEW POSTS UP TRY IT DONNY,,,
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Post by: Donny on November 20, 2012, 02:23:57 PM

HIT EM HARD I POSTED A GOOD BURN ONE UP A FEW POSTS UP TRY IT DONNY,,,
I will on my leg workout thanks.
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Post by: njflex on November 20, 2012, 05:53:06 PM
here are 2 contest pics 1992 and same poses kinda 2012 ,,,,
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 20, 2012, 07:42:23 PM
here are 2 contest pics 1992 and same poses kinda 2012 ,,,,

I can see almost no difference between your then and now photos, which is a compliment.
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 20, 2012, 07:46:38 PM
intense leg workout sat,,,,leg presses ,,hack squats,,walking db lunges ...extensions,,,hams stiff legged deads supersetted with lying leg curls and calves standing calf raise superset with leg press calf extensions..

I do lunges up and down the sidewalk in front of my house. The distance is probably a little over 100 ft. We live on a hill, so lunging down the hill hits the muscles in a different way then lunging back up the hill. What I like about doing these is that the trigger for me is simply going out to get the paper or the mail. My daughter thinks it freaks the neighbors out somewhat....like I care.

Being a senior citizen, the last thing I want is a saggy ass. Lunges help to prevent this, I'm told.


As for my daily report, I got on the treadmill for a half hour today at home. I just did not feel like driving to the gym.
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Post by: njflex on November 20, 2012, 07:53:42 PM
I can see almost no difference between your then and now photos, which is a compliment.
thanx prime,,,,i love training,,eating balanced diet not sticking to a 'bbing'only lifestyle,,,
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Post by: Donny on November 21, 2012, 03:00:45 AM
thanx prime,,,,i love training,,eating balanced diet not sticking to a 'bbing'only lifestyle,,,
a good attitude. always strive for a well balanced life... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 21, 2012, 03:12:22 AM
so on Saturday there is am open day at a martial arts centre in Hannover and i will go and look around. I think i will look into escrima a bit more. I like the idea of empty hand techniques and that every day objects can be used..like a pen or pencil. It is an all round system. so today i will take a few ideas from njflex and incorperate them in my leg workout today. I used to hate leg workouts like most people but i am now getting in to it more. I feel very relaxed today and very motivated...have a few things to do first and will not drive in my car but will walk and get some fresh air and the walk will get some blood flowing in my legs...ready for some squats... ;)
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Post by: njflex on November 21, 2012, 08:58:14 AM
so on Saturday there is am open day at a martial arts centre in Hannover and i will go and look around. I think i will look into escrima a bit more. I like the idea of empty hand techniques and that every day objects can be used..like a pen or pencil. It is an all round system. so today i will take a few ideas from njflex and incorperate them in my leg workout today. I used to hate leg workouts like most people but i am now getting in to it more. I feel very relaxed today and very motivated...have a few things to do first and will not drive in my car but will walk and get some fresh air and the walk will get some blood flowing in my legs...ready for some squats... ;)
as painful,and pump you get nothing is more exciting than an intense leg workout,,no need to throw up like its lead to believe,,i've gotten queasy on high rep/curcuit supersets for legs but thats a given,,,,when u finish its like your lower body is thankful its over..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 21, 2012, 11:36:39 AM
as painful,and pump you get nothing is more exciting than an intense leg workout,,no need to throw up like its lead to believe,,i've gotten queasy on high rep/curcuit supersets for legs but thats a given,,,,when u finish its like your lower body is thankful its over..
well today i was a bit faint headed... my lower body was hammerd and walking down the stairs to my car i felt it...lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 21, 2012, 11:53:38 AM
well today i was a bit faint headed... my lower body was hammerd and walking down the stairs to my car i felt it...lol
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NICE,,,,
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 21, 2012, 12:13:48 PM
well today i was a bit faint headed... my lower body was hammerd and walking down the stairs to my car i felt it...lol

I thought you said you weren't driving today. Changed your mind, I guess.
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Post by: Donny on November 21, 2012, 12:32:53 PM
I thought you said you weren't driving today. Changed your mind, I guess.
no my wife came home with shopping and went down to get the grocerie bags.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 21, 2012, 04:45:36 PM
no my wife came home with shopping and went down to get the grocerie bags.

Fun....carrying groceries upstairs. Fortunately, our garage is attached and is only one step down from the rest of the house. Groceries are a snap. This is a good thing because my wife buys groceries like she plans to feed and army. Of course someone carries them to the car for her and I bring them in the house.

If I walked to the grocery store for everything I needed even if I used some kind of carrying device, I would be skinny. The nearest store is about a mile away and it is all uphill to get there. The next nearest store in down the hill and about 2 miles away. Bringing the groceries home would be a killer.

Another day and another missed opportunity to workout at the gym. I was all set to take off for the gym when my wife asked if I could help her make a pumpkin chiffon pie. The result being that I ended up making it for her. -Not a lot of work, but time consuming. Also, I spent a good part of the day going everywhere she might have been in the last couple of weeks, looking for her cane. She left it somewhere and cannot remember where. This was a special cane I bought for her. It is wooden, handmade, painted yellow with multicolored flowers all over it. I hope whoever has it now, enjoys it. Looks like my wife will be getting a new cane for Christmas. It was expensive.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: WOOO on November 21, 2012, 06:55:03 PM
never miss a good opportunity to make and EAT pie...
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Post by: Donny on November 22, 2012, 04:28:18 AM
never miss a good opportunity to make and EAT pie...
i am getting hungry reading this... ;D well i love steak pie. Today is a quite day for me ..i have some paper work to do that i keep puting off..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 22, 2012, 11:27:43 AM
never miss a good opportunity to make and EAT pie...

Unfortunately, the pie was awful. It was a Paula Dean recipe. Not surprisingly, it is way too sweet tasting. I am going to go buy a pumpkin pie today. What is really bad is that we doubled the recipe and gave one pie away to some friends who live up the street. Who knows, they might like it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 23, 2012, 01:48:44 AM
so today is shoulders and arms... I might replace BB press with seated DB press... Pinch grips for grip strength....shame i do not have Woooīs Ab wheel i am game to try that. I have a DB rod at home old style with a revolving collar you can remove and i suppose i could centrally load it with a 5 kg plate... ;)
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Post by: Donny on November 23, 2012, 09:44:10 AM
so trained and just got back from a run...rained a bit but was not cold.
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Post by: Donny on November 25, 2012, 04:29:41 AM
Today i will do a bit of Ab training and have a relaxing Day. I will use my Incline Bench which i have not used for a while...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 25, 2012, 04:35:50 AM
with a few hanging leg raises....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 25, 2012, 04:40:31 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Donny on November 25, 2012, 04:53:37 AM
also like hanging knee raises from my chinning bar...
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Post by: oldtimer1 on November 26, 2012, 03:19:36 AM
I worked legs yesterday.
leg press 2x12
squats 2x9 then 1 x 1
hacks 1 x 10
leg extensions 2 x 20
seated leg curls 2 x 15
standing leg curls 2 x 10

side bends with one dumbbell 1 x 15
hanging leg raise 2 x max
hip ups 2 x 20 (on back legs up raising hips. Good lower ab contractions)
Pulley crunches 2 x 25

leg press calf 2 x 25
standing calf 2 x 15

neck work
I felt close to death after I finished. Had a tough time walking up the stairs from my basement gym. Looked at my gym mirror at the grey haired old guy looking back and felt I can't slack off cause of age. Hard to look at my old work out journals of my youth and see what I used to do. Tomorrow a two mile run on my off day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 26, 2012, 03:27:00 AM
solid workout...keep at it. what split are you doing at the moment?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 26, 2012, 05:54:49 AM
so today i just did....    

Parallel Bar Dips 4x max
Push ups 4x max
Flat bench flyes

Close grip chins 3x max
Barbell Rows 4x10
One arm Dumbbell Rows 3x10
Dumbbell Shrugs 3x12

On the push ups i used books on my hands and i wore a weight belt today and felt much better on the BB rows... i have not wore a belt in a long time.. so i will now go for a long fast walk. Tomorrow i will run.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 26, 2012, 07:31:09 AM
NICE WORKOUTS FROM BOTH OF U,,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 26, 2012, 07:57:56 AM
NICE WORKOUTS FROM BOTH OF U,,,,,
Thanks Bro.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 26, 2012, 09:26:29 AM
solid workout...keep at it. what split are you doing at the moment?
I change like the wind. The best success I have ever had was with this split. Day one: Chest and arms. Day Two: Legs. Day three: Off or cardio. Day four: Back and delts. Day five: Off or cardio. Repeat cycle. So the entire body gets hit in a five day cycle. If I miss a day and it turns into a six day cycle no problem. I probably needed the rest anyway.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 27, 2012, 03:31:11 AM
After doing close grip chins (parallel grip) and lifting high as possible my Teres minor and major area are sore today..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 27, 2012, 05:48:26 AM
After doing close grip chins (parallel grip) and lifting high as possible my Teres minor and major area are sore today..
I DO CHINS BEGINNING EVERY WORKOUT FOR BACK,,,12/15 REPS 3 SETS TO GET COOKING ALL GRIPS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 27, 2012, 09:23:03 AM
I DO CHINS BEGINNING EVERY WORKOUT FOR BACK,,,12/15 REPS 3 SETS TO GET COOKING ALL GRIPS
yes hitting every grip will give your back a great workout.. as JPM said before a muscle cannot be isolated but i believe you can throw more stress to an area with a change in grip or even just a bodymovement. Look at the chins we are now seeing in fitness. Kipping.. a wider variation of cheating?? Chins now being used in Parks in "Ghetto Workouts" moving the body left to right in chins. The list goes on.. i think you have to keep an open mind and always improve your "game".. in sport it is so so why not muscle building?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 27, 2012, 05:09:13 PM
I use the usual pronate and suplinate grip in chins. I recently got d ring handles that attach to the chin bar. It really gives a different feel to pull ups in that your hand can revolve in any way it naturally wants to go. I find it makes the pull up harder in that it takes away some stability but it adds another variation to pull ups.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 28, 2012, 03:30:35 AM
I use the usual pronate and suplinate grip in chins. I recently got d ring handles that attach to the chin bar. It really gives a different feel to pull ups in that your hand can revolve in any way it naturally wants to go. I find it makes the pull up harder in that it takes away some stability but it adds another variation to pull ups.
Good post... yes itīs the small things that can really make a difference and your workout can be much more exciting and challenging. I will train shoulders + arms today instead of legs because i will now train day on day off and the extra rest between shoulders+ arms and Chest/back i need. Training shoulder+arms Friday and then chest/back sunday would be too much.I think itīs about time i used my preacher bench too just to throw a new move in there... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 28, 2012, 03:34:00 AM
Primemuscle.....we have not forgot you my friend... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 28, 2012, 01:43:03 PM
Primemuscle.....we have not forgot you my friend... :)

Thanks.

Clearly I don't have the dedication needed right now to commit to working out with the intensity you do. Shamefully, I have made more promises to myself to get to the gym then I have kept over the past two weeks. -no excuses!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 28, 2012, 02:00:57 PM
I am lucky because i have What i need at home . So no traveling and its easy for me to fit it in
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on November 28, 2012, 05:37:01 PM
I am waiting until I become mature enough, before I can post in here.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 28, 2012, 06:10:27 PM
I am waiting until I become mature enough, before I can post in here.   ;D

Are you speaking of emotional maturity or chronological maturity? Emotional maturity eludes many folk indefinitely. As for chronological maturity....one can always suggest you are as old as you feel.

If you are still working out with the same intensity that you did when you were in your teens and twenties, this might not be the thread for you. However, if you feel like you reached a level in your development where you find it beneficial to modify your workout and diet routine, then feel free to share those experiences.

I don't think posting here will result in you being perceived as being any more mature than you probably are.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on November 28, 2012, 06:25:34 PM
Are you speaking of emotional maturity or chronological maturity? Emotional maturity eludes many folk indefinitely. As for chronological maturity....one can always suggest you are as old as you feel.

If you are still working out with the same intensity that you did when you were in your teens and twenties, this might not be the thread for you. However, if you feel like you reached a level in your development where you find it beneficial to modify your workout and diet routine, then feel free to share those experiences.

I don't think posting here will result in you being perceived as being any more mature than you probably are.
It was a joke PM. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 29, 2012, 12:48:44 AM
It was a joke PM. 

And my response to you was also written "tongue in cheek".  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 29, 2012, 05:45:27 AM
Nice to see Booty Baby has joined us... today is a fast run( well fast for me ) and i will do some double crunches and leg raises on the floor hands under the buttocks to support my lower back. I like to do leg raises opening the legs and closing them,then up and down alternate and then inwards and outwards in a circle.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on November 29, 2012, 07:04:34 AM
I am waiting until I become mature enough, before I can post in here.   ;D
remember your only young once but you can be immature forever. words i live by. 8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 29, 2012, 07:48:05 PM
did delts today started with 3 heavy working sets fr press,,then did the run the rack side laterals 8-10mreps per dbell 35,30,25,20,15  2x around incredible pump...bent over cable rear laterals,,,db press 2x to finish,,,shrugs with diamond shape bar u stand inside and handles on side.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on November 29, 2012, 07:58:16 PM
I am just reading.  I can't really contribute until I am back to weight training, which will be on thursday when my nose is post op 6 weeks.  I am really looking forward to training properly again.  I have almost given in a couple of times but I won't because I always do something 100% and I want a full recovery from this nose op.  Then it's on.   8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on November 29, 2012, 08:09:30 PM
remember your only young once but you can be immature forever. words i live by. 8)
Seriously I hate immaturity.  Wise words funk51. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 30, 2012, 02:44:57 AM
did delts today started with 3 heavy working sets fr press,,then did the run the rack side laterals 8-10mreps per dbell 35,30,25,20,15  2x around incredible pump...bent over cable rear laterals,,,db press 2x to finish,,,shrugs with diamond shape bar u stand inside and handles on side.
Think you mean a "trap Bar"...nice workout. very intensive and the fruits of your labours are evident in the picture.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 30, 2012, 02:46:14 AM
I am just reading.  I can't really contribute until I am back to weight training, which will be on thursday when my nose is post op 6 weeks.  I am really looking forward to training properly again.  I have almost given in a couple of times but I won't because I always do something 100% and I want a full recovery from this nose op.  Then it's on.   8)
look after yourself booty.. your health comes first :-*
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on November 30, 2012, 03:01:18 AM
So I went to the gym tonight where my best friend was working.  I chatted for a while with her and everytime I looked the treadmills were taken so my friend said to me "do you want to do arms with me?".  I didn't want to do tricep dips on the bar/machine so instead I began to train legs on my own.  Well it felt like a drug (not that I would know, haha) as soon as I did my first set of adductor machine.  I only did two sets per exercise except for the last exercise (standing calf raise) as I developed this strange pressure behind the eyes and nose and head and so stopped at 8 reps.  I did high reps with medium weight for the first set and then added more weight for the next set.

Leg adductor x2 sets
Laying leg curls x2 sets
thigh extension x2 sets
seated leg curls x2 sets
cable kickbacks (for glutes) each leg x2 sets
standing calf raises x 1 set

Finished off with treadmill for 20 mins only due to weird pressure behind eyes,nose and head.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on November 30, 2012, 03:02:53 AM
look after yourself booty.. your health comes first :-*
I will Donny and agreed, health first always. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 30, 2012, 03:04:57 AM
nice booty. be careful though... :) good you never did any heavy leg press or squats because of the pressure you felt..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on November 30, 2012, 03:12:45 AM
nice booty. be careful though... :) good you never did any heavy leg press or squats because of the pressure you felt..
I know and my best friend was trying to get me to do leg press, but I told her that it would put too much strain on my nose.  I just did isolation exercises but I maxed out with reps, went for the burn.  I will be sore tomorrow or the next day...not looking forward to the DOMS. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 01, 2012, 06:53:13 AM
Today i think i will go and swim a few lengths. Have not been swimming for a while. I will at the end do some leg raises at the side(elbows holding me up on the side of the pool) and do some hanging leg raises in the water..  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 01, 2012, 06:56:32 AM
Today i think i will go and swim a few lengths. Have not been swimming for a while. I will at the end do some leg raises at the side(elbows holding me up on the side of the pool) and do some hanging leg raises in the water..  ;D
whats ur stats donny hght,weight,bf,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 01, 2012, 08:20:21 AM
well i am 5 7" and weigh 75 kg(at the moment and was more heavy). I am not sure what body fat i have but i think about 10%. it changes because i run a lot too. Although with weight training i am solid enough.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 01, 2012, 10:59:13 AM
well i am 5 7" and weigh 75 kg(at the moment and was more heavy). I am not sure what body fat i have but i think about 10%. it changes because i run a lot too. Although with weight training i am solid enough.
we're about same height i might be 5'8 lol   break down kg to weight i'm dumb american lol,,,i weigh around 185 to 190 ranges ,,,,i had killer leg wkout today  leg press did 4 plates per,then 5,6 ,,then 2 sets of 7 plates ,,,close feet squat finished 315 for 10 last set,,,lunges changed it up did stairs 50 lb db went up steps skipped over 1 so 2 steps up per then one way down ran down 3x around my heart was jumping on those,,,extensions ,,,,then leg curl lying and stiff legged deads  got up to 235 for 8/10 there pumped hams,,,,calves 2 exerscises,,,thanx for stopping at pic thread love chest training but delts have come up last few yrs balanced off i was all chest for long time,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 01, 2012, 11:26:46 AM
I am not sure but i think itīs maybe double.. not sure my bodyweight is i think in lbs 150.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: B_B_C on December 01, 2012, 11:57:36 AM
I am lucky because i have What i need at home . So no traveling and its easy for me to fit it in

oh i wish it was that easy
a while I made a stab at a serious home gym, repaired an old shed, nearly broke my back with the concrete mixing etc, already had the olympic discs and bar and then made a lifting frame from old ESB (telegraph) poles.
didnt have enough energy after that to catchop with previous form. Going to a gym else where has a lot of things going for it (though none nearby have decent free weights)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 01, 2012, 12:04:44 PM
All you need is a barbell which you have and a bench and squat stands. you can then fulfill all the requirements , push,pull, squat.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 01, 2012, 05:29:16 PM
well i am 5 7" and weigh 75 kg(at the moment and was more heavy). I am not sure what body fat i have but i think about 10%. it changes because i run a lot too. Although with weight training i am solid enough.

75 kg = 165.3 lbs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: mdn250 on December 02, 2012, 08:12:22 AM
Question for you older guys who have had back pain problems in the past. I am 32 and this last happened when I was in my early 20s. I have some problems that are not serious enough to require any surgery but the disc has some damage and sometimes I get that sciatica type pain.

Have you had it and how did you adjust your training?

For example.... I don't want to do say switch to leg presses because I feel that squats will actually help. I just lighten the weight and do more reps and play with the tempo.

MDN
 

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 02, 2012, 08:32:07 AM
sorry to hear about your back. I myself have never had a back problem.. I would use  pre-exhaust on my quads : Leg extension+Squats and Leg curls+ Romanian Deadlifts( if you can do them if not Hyperextensions) Dumbbell squats and lunges work too. I would train my Abs hard too and the obliques. Any other Mature trainers got any better suggestions to help mdn250 ?  I take it we are talking about your lower back?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 02, 2012, 08:34:09 AM
sorry to hear about your back. I myself have never had a back problem.. I would use  pre-exhaust on my quads : Leg extension+Squats and Leg curls+ Romanian Deadlifts( if you can do them if not Hyperextensions) Dumbbell squats and lunges work too. I would train my Abs hard too and the obliques. Any other Mature trainers got any better suggestions to help mdn250 ?  I take it we are talking about your lower back?
same advice i'd give,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: mdn250 on December 02, 2012, 08:48:56 AM
sorry to hear about your back. I myself have never had a back problem.. I would use  pre-exhaust on my quads : Leg extension+Squats and Leg curls+ Romanian Deadlifts( if you can do them if not Hyperextensions) Dumbbell squats and lunges work too. I would train my Abs hard too and the obliques. Any other Mature trainers got any better suggestions to help mdn250 ?  I take it we are talking about your lower back?

Thanks that sounds like a plan, I haven't done lunges in years that with the new front squats at a higher rep range could be a switch that I need. I am training again after a few years off. I was so happy to train again I probably just overdid it and caused it to flareup. I will get the Active Release Therapy from the chiro if it doesn't go away soon. That is an amazing therapy! But expensive :)

MDN
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 02, 2012, 10:42:57 AM
In the past when I would have back pain, it was due to my "putting it out." My DO would adjust it for me and I'd be fine until the next time it went out. Interestingly enough, this never happened when I was working out at the gym, but rather from some small movement while at home or work. Exercise actually helped correct this problem.

About a year ago my back went out, or so I thought. I went to the doctor for an adjustment. He told me my back was perfectly aligned. I got an x-ray which showed that I had degenerating disks in my back or basically arthritis. six weeks of physical therapy and using a Tens every day on it got it back in shape. I've had no problem with it since. Much of the physical therapy was exercises for the back to build the muscles supporting the spine in that area.

As for weight lifting, while my back was compromised, I didn't lift weights or workout at all except for the exercises I did each day as prescribed by the physical therapist. Once my back had recovered, I got the go ahead to return to my regular workout routine. The only cautionary advice was to always use good form. I was not given any restrictions as to which exercises to do or not do.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 02, 2012, 12:24:50 PM
Thanks that sounds like a plan, I haven't done lunges in years that with the new front squats at a higher rep range could be a switch that I need. I am training again after a few years off. I was so happy to train again I probably just overdid it and caused it to flareup. I will get the Active Release Therapy from the chiro if it doesn't go away soon. That is an amazing therapy! But expensive :)

MDN

well keep us informed and let us know how you structure your workout and your results. Your advice and experience could help others and we have some great guys on here.. and good to see Primemuscle  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: B_B_C on December 02, 2012, 07:48:55 PM
Question for you older guys who have had back pain problems in the past. I am 32 and this last happened when I was in my early 20s. I have some problems that are not serious enough to require any surgery but the disc has some damage and sometimes I get that sciatica type pain.
.

get someone knowledgable (not a gym buddy or rat) to look at your posture and maybe check out how you are standing and how you place your feet  - whither splayed out in every day use (as distinct from a good squatting position) Almost all back problems come from some muscle mis use some time or other. you are at an age where correction reaps greater rewards than later. Consider some yoga - at least enough to get more body position concious. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 03, 2012, 05:21:21 AM
so today i was a bit pushed for time and hit chest only with some calfes...

Flat Bench press 4x8
Flat DB Flyes      4x10+
Incline DB press 4x10
Incline DB Flyes  4x10+
One legged DB Calf raises 5x 15-20 / I also did 1 set of max push-ups. On the incline DB press i rotated my hands during the movement.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 03, 2012, 06:52:43 AM
Good chest routine Donny.  I am going to train chest tomorrow.  Will get a train in tomorrow and then another on thursday which will be 6 weeks since my op and my nose bones will be at their full strength.  I will also be able to wear sunnies which going without is killing me here with the glare and being summer. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 03, 2012, 07:02:59 AM
Good chest routine Donny.  I am going to train chest tomorrow.  Will get a train in tomorrow and then another on thursday which will be 6 weeks since my op and my nose bones will be at their full strength.  I will also be able to wear sunnies which going without is killing me here with the glare and being summer. 
Thanks...in about an hour i will go for a run...its snowing here...  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 03, 2012, 07:05:36 AM
Thanks...in about an hour i will go for a run...its snowing here...  ;D
You lucky thing....I want snow.   :(  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 03, 2012, 07:19:40 AM
You lucky thing....I want snow.   :(  
just shit for driving and when its too deep for running shoes i will dig out my Boots.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 03, 2012, 07:29:16 AM
just shit for driving and when its too deep for running shoes i will dig out my Boots.
I wouldn't like driving in snow. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: mdn250 on December 03, 2012, 09:32:30 AM
get someone knowledgable (not a gym buddy or rat) to look at your posture and maybe check out how you are standing and how you place your feet  - whither splayed out in every day use (as distinct from a good squatting position) Almost all back problems come from some muscle mis use some time or other. you are at an age where correction reaps greater rewards than later. Consider some yoga - at least enough to get more body position concious. 


Makes a lot of sense. Thank you. I actually have been considering some basic yoga. Since I first had this pain 10 years ago in my early 20's. The ART (active release therapy) from the chiro took care of everything. The chiro worked for Dr Durlan Castro's practice so of course they worked on bodybuilders and athletes daily. He had mentioned that the constant injections leave you with scar tissue and that MIGHT also cause irritation to the nerves. Made sense. I always worked on stretching after that and of course when I got lazy and didn't stretch for a month or so...bam.

MDN
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 03, 2012, 09:55:46 AM
Makes a lot of sense. Thank you. I actually have been considering some basic yoga. Since I first had this pain 10 years ago in my early 20's. The ART (active release therapy) from the chiro took care of everything. The chiro worked for Dr Durlan Castro's practice so of course they worked on bodybuilders and athletes daily. He had mentioned that the constant injections leave you with scar tissue and that MIGHT also cause irritation to the nerves. Made sense. I always worked on stretching after that and of course when I got lazy and didn't stretch for a month or so...bam.

MDN

Wooo swears by Yoga.. i liked Aikido with the throwing and rolls/breakfalls.. saved my ass one time, i was running and my shoe caught an uneven stone on the street pavement. I rolled perfect and was in a circular motion on my feet. The rolls are different to Judo. I am thinking of starting again and still have my Hakama. It kept my body very supple... although Yoga i agree would be better for you( in my opinion )...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 04, 2012, 04:39:19 AM
I trained back instead of chest. 

One arm dumbell rowes (each side) x 4 sets
Lat pulldowns to the front x 4 sets
seated rowes x 4 sets

Finished off with 4 sets of rear delt flyes on machine and 4 sets of db bicep curls. 
Nose felt great, very little swelling occurred from training which was awesome. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 04, 2012, 05:33:09 AM
I trained back instead of chest. 

One arm dumbell rowes (each side) x 4 sets
Lat pulldowns to the front x 4 sets
seated rowes x 4 sets

Finished off with 4 sets of rear delt flyes on machine and 4 sets of db bicep curls. 
Nose felt great, very little swelling occurred from training which was awesome. 
nice balanced workout.. good to hear your nose is getting better. Today i got myself a new pair of running shoes my other ones were wrecked and did not provide much protection for my knees. Felt it on my knees last night after my run. Got some quick release collars too for my ez bar. seated rows i liked too Booty baby with a close grip in the gym. Today i will train Back too...

close grip chin ups 3x max
Barbell Rows         4x10
Deadlifts               4x 6-8
Dumbbell shrugs    3x 10+

I will add Deadlifts in there instead of one arm DB rows. The combination of BB rows and Deadlifts is very taxing.. I will round this off with some crunches (feet on bench) and some knee-ins
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 05, 2012, 05:55:52 AM
so today i will do legs..

Squats 4x10
leg ext 4x12-15
leg curls4x12-15
DB lunges 3x 10
calf raises 5x15+ (3 weigthed with DB and then 2 sets free hand higher reps)

later afterwards a run. No stiff Deads today as i did Standard deads yesterday and feel it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 05, 2012, 06:12:16 AM
so today i will do legs..

Squats 4x10
leg ext 4x12-15
leg curls4x12-15
DB lunges 3x 10
calf raises 5x15+ (3 weigthed with DB and then 2 sets free hand higher reps)

later afterwards a run. No stiff Deads today as i did Standard deads yesterday and feel it.
You'll be okay to do squats after deadlifts yesterday Donny?  Squats is a whole body exercise...it really uses the back too especially lower back. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 05, 2012, 06:19:15 AM
yes i will be ok as i am not lifting massive weight. Itīs more running later i am botherd about because i will feel it in my legs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 05, 2012, 06:45:01 AM
yes i will be ok as i am not lifting massive weight. Itīs more running later i am botherd about because i will feel it in my legs.
I just can't train back and legs in a row.  I find it hard to to brisk walking for the first 20 mins if I have DOMS in the legs, but then after that I am fine.  I will go harder next leg work out...add in more sets too.  I didn't experience any DOMS from my last leg workout except for the inner thighs.  My legs seem to be able to take alot of volume. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 05, 2012, 10:44:23 AM
I just can't train back and legs in a row.  I find it hard to to brisk walking for the first 20 mins if I have DOMS in the legs, but then after that I am fine.  I will go harder next leg work out...add in more sets too.  I didn't experience any DOMS from my last leg workout except for the inner thighs.  My legs seem to be able to take alot of volume. 
well i made my run... was not all that bad, just had to watch because the streets are a bit slidey.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 05, 2012, 06:16:58 PM
Today I had lunch with my good friend Pat. It is interesting that when he and his partner get together with my wife and I, Pat and I hardly have a chance to talk. Today we talked about everything and anything for almost 4 hours. I've know Pat for years and now I feel like I know him better than ever. I think we will plan on going out to lunch on a regular basis. We will see how that works out once his lady retires next April.

Anyway, thought I should let you all know that I am still not hitting the gym on any regular basis. Our daughter is visiting from El Paso, for the next couple of weeks and we have been spending a lot of time doing things with her. Between that and preparing for a big holiday get together at our house next week, putting up Christmas decor and such, I have been staying out of trouble, but not going to the gym.

I do want to say that you, Donny, and now Booty are inspirational. I really am beginning to feel like I need to get back into it after reading about your workouts. I have been a little envious of Donny having equipment at home. And sometimes it seems to me like you, Donny are always doing one thing or another which makes me wonder if you have time for work. With out a doubt, you are exceptionally dedicated to staying fit.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 05, 2012, 07:26:45 PM
It's common PM for people to drop off with their training at this time of the year.  People are busy preparing for christmas, travelling to see family and parties.  Here in Australia people get into the festive season probably a month out and eat out on a regular basis and drink a fair bit.  The gyms get very quiet.  Only the dedicated ones keep up with their training.  Enjoy the time with your daughter and the festive season. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 05, 2012, 07:32:20 PM
well i made my run... was not all that bad, just had to watch because the streets are a bit slidey.
We are experiencing a heatwave in Australia.  It's so horrible.  Thank god I can now wear my sunnies as the glare was killing me.  I am now able to do my cardio outdoors, so will be increasing the duration.  I was doing cardio at the gym as there is no way I am doing it outside in this glare without my sunnies. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 06, 2012, 02:06:37 AM
We are experiencing a heatwave in Australia.  It's so horrible.  Thank god I can now wear my sunnies as the glare was killing me.  I am now able to do my cardio outdoors, so will be increasing the duration.  I was doing cardio at the gym as there is no way I am doing it outside in this glare without my sunnies. 
Got to admit i do not like too much heat..being a scot... ;D although i do get brown quick. I prefer cooler climates and think Alaska would be more appropriate for me... ;) Primemuscle do not worry about it enjoy Xmas and say that you will start in January. As for my work i work in a sportverein(sport club) as a Sport und fitnesskaufmann IHK Hannover (management assistant in sports and Fitness) i work mostly in our Training room as i am also a qualified Fitness Instructor (Trainer B license Inline Academy and C Übungleiter C Deutscher Sportbund.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 06, 2012, 10:56:40 AM
Got to admit i do not like too much heat..being a scot... ;D although i do get brown quick. I prefer cooler climates and think Alaska would be more appropriate for me... ;) Primemuscle do not worry about it enjoy Xmas and say that you will start in January. As for my work i work in a sportverein(sport club) as a Sport und fitnesskaufmann IHK Hannover (management assistant in sports and Fitness) i work mostly in our Training room as i am also a qualified Fitness Instructor (Trainer B license Inline Academy and C Übungleiter C Deutscher Sportbund.

Ah, this explains a lot about why you are so committed to being fit. Working in the industry is added incentive to look the part. If you were a slouch, folks might not take you seriously when you were trying to instruct them.

I am not going to allow myself to put off going to the gym until January. Despite my excuses, I have more time available then a lot of folks do being as how I am retired. I really think I have just become so lazy that I don't do as many things in a day as I once did. Next week is busy however, with my wife and I hosting the holiday event and a few other things I have on the docket. Our daughter goes back to El Paso on December 17. Things should get back to a more normal routine then.

I can't believe I am still doing fall clean up in the yard. There is a break in the weather today, meaning no rain. I plan to cut back the perennials and dead annuals plus get the leaves out of the beds. My lucky and apparently wealthier then me neighbor had the arborist trimming his trees yesterday. Today he had the gardener back cleaning the rest of the leaves out of the bushes and beds. And yes, there is an element of "keeping up with the Jones" going on here. Before I start work in the yard, I need to take our dog in for his vaccinations and a toenail clip....a man's work is never done.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 06, 2012, 11:24:43 AM
Ah, this explains a lot about why you are so committed to being fit. Working in the industry is added incentive to look the part. If you were a slouch, folks might not take you seriously when you were trying to instruct them.

I am not going to allow myself to put off going to the gym until January. Despite my excuses, I have more time available then a lot of folks do being as how I am retired. I really think I have just become so lazy that I don't do as many things in a day as I once did. Next week is busy however, with my wife and I hosting the holiday event and a few other things I have on the docket. Our daughter goes back to El Paso on December 17. Things should get back to a more normal routine then.

I can't believe I am still doing fall clean up in the yard. There is a break in the weather today, meaning no rain. I plan to cut back the perennials and dead annuals plus get the leaves out of the beds. My lucky and apparently wealthier then me neighbor had the arborist trimming his trees yesterday. Today he had the gardener back cleaning the rest of the leaves out of the bushes and beds. And yes, there is an element of "keeping up with the Jones" going on here. Before I start work in the yard, I need to take our dog in for his vaccinations and a toenail clip....a man's work is never done.
you have enough going on there Prime..if i look the part?.. i look like a trained 46 year old nothing special.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 06, 2012, 04:06:24 PM
you have enough going on there Prime..if i look the part?.. i look like a trained 46 year old nothing special.. ;D

Better look around you, looking trained at 46 years old is something special.  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 06, 2012, 04:14:53 PM
Last night I trained chest, side delts, tris.  I have such bad DOMS in my back that it's hard to lift my arms above my head.  Putting on deodrant is a challenge even.   :-[  My body will adapt quickly though to training again so not too worried...the DOMS will lessen after a few workouts.


Incline db presses x 6 sets
db shoulder presses x4 sets
lateral raises x 4 sets
tricep pressdowns with V bar x 4 sets

Finished off with crunches x 4 sets totally 100 reps.

Got up this morning at 5am and did 60 mins of brisk walking.  Tonight is legs so I wanted to do my cardio earlier on in the day as I know that I won't be able to do cardio straight after leg training.  I plan to add more volume in to my leg workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 07, 2012, 03:07:51 AM
Great workout Booty.. i find after Chest even training Triceps hard but shoulders too? ...respect. I will get back on track next week just working out 3 days a week because training 5 days i find hard. Therefor today i will train Shoulders and Arms. I need a days break between sessions. You know if i lived near a beach in the US or Australia i would love to go for morning runs and evening walks on the beach. A friend of mine finished his time in our Army and joined the Australian Army. seems to like it over there.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 07, 2012, 03:56:10 AM
Great workout Booty.. i find after Chest even training Triceps hard but shoulders too? ...respect. I will get back on track next week just working out 3 days a week because training 5 days i find hard. Therefor today i will train Shoulders and Arms. I need a days break between sessions. You know if i lived near a beach in the US or Australia i would love to go for morning runs and evening walks on the beach. A friend of mine finished his time in our Army and joined the Australian Army. seems to like it over there.
Thanks Donny.   I always train delts with chest, but the last coulple of years have split my delts up so that I am doing rears with back.  I am still just easing back into my training after a layoff due to recovering from my surgery plus the inconsistancy from the sinus/throat/chest infections.
I love walking on the beach too in the evenings.  I think I will go for a dip in the ocean this weekened, to help with the DOMS. 


Legs.

Walking lunges x 3 sets (10 reps each leg so in total 20 reps per set)
Thigh extensions x 4 sets
SLD's x 3 sets
Seated hamstring curls x 4 sets
Thigh adductor x 4 sets
Standing calf raises x 3 sets

Nose is swelling and my friend noticed it as well.  I am learning to live with it, although it's not really good when my friend tells me that she can see my nose is swelling and thats from accross the room. 

Finished with a soak in the bath with salts.  Just kept the temp to luke warm though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 07, 2012, 07:08:24 AM
youīll feel it after that workout Booty... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 07, 2012, 03:24:37 PM
youīll feel it after that workout Booty... ;D
Yeah I can feel it already in my legs, but it's not too bad.  Mind you it's only the morning after. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 07, 2012, 04:02:06 PM
I live near the Jersey shore. It's fantastic to run the board walk by the ocean. Now after Sandy it's all off limits. Military and Police limit access. I even use to run on board walk near the bay side that's now destroyed. I miss my Ocean side runs. Looking forward to the Shore returning. The beaches in NJ are are really amazing depending where you go. I have been to beaches all over the US and I will tell you a secret. We have better beaches than anyone. You just have to know where to go.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 07, 2012, 05:25:21 PM
great delt wkout thurs,,,smith fr press then did side laterals ran the rack 35,30,25,20,sets of 8-10 2x around,,reverse bent over cable rear delt,db press x2,,cable up right with seperate handles together instead bar x2,,traps...forearms,calves
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2012, 09:47:22 PM
great delt wkout thurs,,,smith fr press then did side laterals ran the rack 35,30,25,20,sets of 8-10 2x around,,reverse bent over cable rear delt,db press x2,,cable up right with seperate handles together instead bar x2,,traps...forearms,calves

Seems familiar....I use the Smith press which offers a choice of three different hand positions as the cornerstone of my deltoid workout. I vary the hand position from on work out to the next. Then I hit the dumbbells and work them from a variety of different positions, using three sets and 12-8 reps for each position. I finish off with upright rows. If I am feeling really inspired, I will do Hammer Strength rear presses too before hitting the dumbbells.

Got to get my fat ass back in the gym soon!  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 08, 2012, 02:47:24 AM
some great workouts going on here. I hope you can get back to your beach runs Oldtimer.. i would love the fresh air and wind in my face walking along the beach..paradise. Mind you i would turn into a beach bum...lol. Always liked driving near the sea as a kid with my Family. Today itīs a bit fresh outside but tonight before i settle down to watch TV i will go for an Hour walk for fresh air and i sleep better. Monday i will train Chest/Back again.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: mdn250 on December 08, 2012, 09:23:36 AM
First back workout since getting back in the gym after aggrivating old disc problem.

Reverse grip pulldows 3 sets 10-12reps
Close grip V bar pulldowns 3sets 10-12reps
Hammer Strength seated row 3sets 10-12reps (one arm at a time, inside neutral grip)
Hammer Strength shrugs 3sets 10-12reps (seated)
Hyperextensions 3sets 8-12reps (varied reps, more worried about moving smooth and tight posture)

Felt some discomfort but this seems to be something I can do until the pain goes away. So far its slowly getting better, almost considered doing reverse barbell rows but not yet :)

PS- Can't wait to switch back to my old gym when my current expires soon. They have same stuff but they have the supported Tbar which is a personal favorite. Haven't used that in many many years. I honestly like it more than the oldschool Tbar setup even when I had no back problems and could do whatever I wanted...just has this nice groove and its not really a machine since its not in a locked path, just supported. Kind of like the one arm DB rows at Bev Francis's gym. The bench can rest the db and you get in perfect position where you can't cheat at all unless you start swinging lol.

MDN
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 08, 2012, 09:40:50 AM
nice to hear from you. I would leave out the reverse BB rows till you are better but if you can use the supported T bar row later in the new gym then all the better. Hammer strength rows i liked in the Gym. Also liked the hammer pull down machine...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 09, 2012, 02:00:59 AM
Looked out the window this morning....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: mdn250 on December 09, 2012, 08:45:47 AM
nice to hear from you. I would leave out the reverse BB rows till you are better but if you can use the supported T bar row later in the new gym then all the better. Hammer strength rows i liked in the Gym. Also liked the hammer pull down machine...

I also like the Hammer Strength Pulldowns they are a personal favorite of mine. Both the gyms 'close' to my home have the one with the overhandgrip. Angled diaganal so you can't grab it underhand. You can only do it one other way by grabbing hold of the actual arms which is a nice movement to do last since you cant go too heavy.

The only thing I am going to miss in my current gym is the Hammer Strength pulldown with reverse grip. The one Dorian always used. The gym I am going to go back to however, has a pullover machine which a lot have phased out. I LOVE doing those pullover machines for 3sets 10reps to get the back nice and pumped.

MDN
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 09, 2012, 10:00:05 AM
very heavy challenging leg workout am
warmed up 4 sets of heavy wght 12 rep sets extensions
then leg press x3 5 plates per side,then 6 ,then 7 12/10/8-10 reps per set
close stance squat x3 275,315,365 ,12/10/8
lunge up steps 50 lb db up skipped every other step so 12 steps up 18 down did it in consecutive sets up,down,up,down,rested then again ..

hams
seated and lying leg curls 6 sets total

calve superset seated and legs press toe press 20 rep sets 3 x around

great pump...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 09, 2012, 10:07:31 AM
I did not do anything today...just 1 hour walking through the snow... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 09, 2012, 03:29:52 PM
Looked out the window this morning....
Wow.  Now that's snow...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 10, 2012, 12:15:12 AM
I didn't do anything today either.  I was supose to train back yesterday and got ready to go to gym with my best friend.  She picked me up early and said lets get something to eat first and so we went to ribs and rumps.  Then of course after steak she wanted to let food go down so we did some shopping.  Next minute she said she's too slack to train and by this stage I was tired too, as it was later in the afternoon and I had very little sleep the night before as my kitten bought a baby snake into the house.  Today I got into a cleaning mode and cleaned the home from top to bottom.  My nose was swollen from the heat alone.  I thought it was better if I let it settle down as it was swollen even at the top of the bridge. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 10, 2012, 12:30:21 AM
I didn't do anything today either.  I was supose to train back yesterday and got ready to go to gym with my best friend.  She picked me up early and said lets get something to eat first and so we went to ribs and rumps.  Then of course after steak she wanted to let food go down so we did some shopping.  Next minute she said she's too slack to train and by this stage I was tired too, as it was later in the afternoon and I had very little sleep the night before as my kitten bought a baby snake into the house.  Today I got into a cleaning mode and cleaned the home from top to bottom.  My nose was swollen from the heat alone.  I thought it was better if I let it settle down as it was swollen even at the top of the bridge. 

Why is your nose still swelling?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 10, 2012, 12:43:33 AM
Why is your nose still swelling?
Apparently it swells from the heat and anything that raises my blood pressure.  So when I exercise/weight train it swells.  And I live in a hot humid climate and its summer.  Even laying on my back sleeping on one pillow will cause it to swell.  I slept sitting up against 3 pillows for a month but I can't do it any longer. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 10, 2012, 12:50:40 AM
Apparently it swells from the heat and anything that raises my blood pressure.  So when I exercise/weight train it swells.  And I live in a hot humid climate and its summer.  Even laying on my back sleeping on one pillow will cause it to swell.  I slept sitting up against 3 pillows for a month but I can't do it any longer. 

So is the swelling unrelated to the surgery you had?

Many years ago, I had a deviated septum repaired. It took about 6 months for the swelling to completely subside. However, it was not affected by heat or my blood pressure.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 10, 2012, 12:55:29 AM
So is the swelling unrelated to the surgery you had?

Many years ago, I had a deviated septum repaired. It took about 6 months for the swelling to completely subside. However, it was not affected by heat or my blood pressure.
Yes it is.  It's only been 6.5 weeks since my surgery.  I had rhinoplasty on the bridge of my nose to straighten it, as well as my sinus's cleaned out.  It's common and perfectly normal for my nose to be swollen apparently.  It just sucks that it swells so easily, especially under the heat because I can't escape the heat long enough for it to go down. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 10, 2012, 01:03:38 AM
I see.

If you lived here in Oregon, you'd be enjoying rain and more rain with highs in the mid to low 40's. It is winter here.

Can you ice your nose? Try a package of frozen peas.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 10, 2012, 01:17:00 AM
I see.

If you lived here in Oregon, you'd be enjoying rain and more rain with highs in the mid to low 40's. It is winter here.

Can you ice your nose? Try a package of frozen peas.
Yes a colder climate would be ideal for my recovery.  Especially since I can't wear my sunnies.  I was wearing them for 4 days but they were leaving indents on my nose for hours and hours where the nose pads sat even after wearing them for 5 mins.  I googled it and surgeons said that the bones were strong enough to stand the weight of the glasses but due to swelling it created dents which sometimes were left permanent on patients they had seen.  So I put my sunnies away.   :(
I might try the frozen pack of peas PM.  Thank you for your advice.  This might just do the job and bring some swelling down quickly for me even if it's only temporary.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 10, 2012, 01:28:05 AM
Be sure to not leave the frozen peas on too long. Best to only leave it on for 20 minutes max per hour.. People have gotten frost bite from leaving cold packs on too long. Also be sure to protect your skin by putting something between the cold pack and your nose like a dry wash cloth or  some paper towels.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2012, 01:34:47 AM
Must have been hard sleeping sitting up. although after a few nights you would be very tired and could sleep i bet.. wish i could send some snow over.. ;) although i just walked last night around 5pm our time it was very fresh and windy and i liked it, i slept like a babe last night. Even in winter i wear a t-shirt under my jacket as too many layers make me too hot. I always wear short sleeves. I like cooler climates and always sleep with a slightly open window, i always sleep naked too.. ;) ;D( not Bodybuilding related ..LOL) some Women in the past have remarked on this and i run around at home always in shorts and Barefoot. I feel for you in such heat in Australia and it really must be uncomfortable. Still from the last picture you sent it looks OK. You have a nice complexion and smooth skin. Well today i will go back to my 3 Day split and will try a superset workout i wrote in Woooīs thread. Nice fast pace. Chest+Back always a winner... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2012, 01:37:46 AM
Be sure to not leave the frozen peas on too long. Best to only leave it on for 20 minutes max per hour.. People have gotten frost bite from leaving cold packs on too long. Also be sure to protect your skin by putting something between the cold pack and your nose like a dry wash cloth or  some paper towels.

yes good points..remember icing my knee after an op.. but your face is a lot more sensitive..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 10, 2012, 03:41:17 AM
Must have been hard sleeping sitting up. although after a few nights you would be very tired and could sleep i bet.. wish i could send some snow over.. ;) although i just walked last night around 5pm our time it was very fresh and windy and i liked it, i slept like a babe last night. Even in winter i wear a t-shirt under my jacket as too many layers make me too hot. I always wear short sleeves. I like cooler climates and always sleep with a slightly open window, i always sleep naked too.. ;) ;D( not Bodybuilding related ..LOL) some Women in the past have remarked on this and i run around at home always in shorts and Barefoot. I feel for you in such heat in Australia and it really must be uncomfortable. Still from the last picture you sent it looks OK. You have a nice complexion and smooth skin. Well today i will go back to my 3 Day split and will try a superset workout i wrote in Woooīs thread. Nice fast pace. Chest+Back always a winner... ;)
Do you mean the pic of the ocean/whitsundays which I posted in some thread a while back?  It's paradise here in winter as the days are warm and sunny still and I lay in the sun and tan.  Summer feels really long though and air con is a blessing. 
I didn't sleep well sitting up, the max sleep I got was 4-5 hours per night and a sore neck/trap.  I felt really exhausted from this op and not getting enough sleep for weeks took it out of me.  I can honestly say that I didn't start sleeping properly until I lay down on one pillow at night.  I love sleeping with a window open too and feeling fresh cool air.  At the moment though I am sleeping with my air con on.  If I was where there was snow...I would bury my face into it and unswell this nose.   :P
Where's the superset workout Donny? 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 10, 2012, 03:44:20 AM
Be sure to not leave the frozen peas on too long. Best to only leave it on for 20 minutes max per hour.. People have gotten frost bite from leaving cold packs on too long. Also be sure to protect your skin by putting something between the cold pack and your nose like a dry wash cloth or  some paper towels.

I watched dexter with a bag of peas wrapped around my nose.  It did actually take some swelling down.  My nose feels a little better and I can press my nostrils together now.  I am actually going to do this now everytime I feel too much swelling and especially after training.  Thank you for the advice PM, it was really helpful.   :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2012, 04:03:18 AM
posted it on the thread "chest,back,Tris" from Wooo :

Incline Bench press 2x6-8
Barbell Pull-overs    2x12-15

Flat Bench Flyes      2x8-10
Barbell rowing         2x8-10

Barbell Bench press 2x6-8
DB one arm rows or pull ups 2x10-12

one legged DB calf raises 3x +12-15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2012, 04:07:57 AM
less volume than my normal workout but i will work a bit faster with supersets. I have used this before and it does not take long to do and is harder than it looks(if the effort is put in). Any criticism wellcome.. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 10, 2012, 05:56:31 AM
posted it on the thread "chest,back,Tris" from Wooo :

Incline Bench press 2x6-8
Barbell Pull-overs    2x12-15

Flat Bench Flyes      2x8-10
Barbell rowing         2x8-10

Barbell Bench press 2x6-8
DB one arm rows or pull ups 2x10-12

one legged DB calf raises 3x +12-15
Looks good Donny. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2012, 09:15:43 AM
just got in from an hour walk in the snow..gives not a bad workout. My weights workout today i did 3 sets on each and not 2..because of the supersets i dropped my weight a bit. Still was a great workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on December 10, 2012, 11:35:25 AM
chest and back 8 sets wide bar pulldowns 100 lbs next 8 sets 2 each grip parll bar pulldowns up to 150 lbs. 3 sets 22 reps pb chins , 2 sets 15 par chins. 5 sets 50 lb dbs one arm row, chest bench press 90 lbs to 210 lbs 30 reps down to 10 reps. 6 sets 30 par bar pushups. 4 sets 45 lb incl db presses. 3 sets 12 w 115 bb presses.various waist work and some legs to finish off. 85 total minutes. than 3 mile walk pulled by this beastie pic'd below. hey i'm 61 years old unjuiced  what do you expect? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on December 10, 2012, 11:36:27 AM
chest and back 8 sets wide bar pulldowns 100 lbs next 8 sets 2 each grip parll bar pulldowns up to 150 lbs. 3 sets 22 reps pb chins , 2 sets 15 par chins. 5 sets 50 lb dbs one arm row, chest bench press 90 lbs to 210 lbs 30 reps down to 10 reps. 6 sets 30 par bar pushups. 4 sets 45 lb incl db presses. 3 sets 12 w 115 bb presses.various waist work and some legs to finish off. 85 total minutes. than 3 mile walk pulled by this beastie pic'd below. hey i'm 61 years old unjuiced  what do you expect? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
oh here's  the beastie. 55 lbs of pulling power.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 11, 2012, 04:03:40 AM
Nice looking dog Funky.. wish i had a dog to go with for long walks.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on December 11, 2012, 08:05:49 AM
Nice looking dog Funky.. wish i had a dog to go for long walks.
thanks donny. ;D pic of roy h for inspiration ,shit i'm older than this guy is in the pic. ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 11, 2012, 08:45:57 AM
well today is rest day for me..nice picture. I really donīt think much about my age.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 11, 2012, 07:13:09 PM
well today is rest day for me..nice picture. I really donīt think much about my age.. ;D

Being as young as you are, you shouldn't think about your age.

I just spent the entire day putting up interior Christmas decorations for a holiday potluck we are hosting tomorrow. The only think I have left is to put some leaves in the dining room table, put the tablecloth on and arrange a centerpiece of candle holders and candles. The frustration in hosting these events is that people today are very lax about RSVP so we really have no idea how many people to expect. Last year there was about 30 folks, if my memory serves me well. Luckily the entertaining spaces in our home are generous so I think we can handle up to about 60 or 70 people without it seeming like wall-to-wall bodies. This is all adults (senior citizens like me actually) so it isn't like there will be a bunch of little tykes running amuck.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 12, 2012, 01:39:32 AM
oh here's  the beastie. 55 lbs of pulling power.
Beautiful looking dog!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 12, 2012, 01:47:57 AM
Back, rear delts and biceps

I increased both weight and sets this workout.  My nose felt some pressure during training but it wasn't something I couldn't handle.  On a really positive note, I am loving all the air that is able to get into my nose and down into my lungs.  Just an amazing feeling after having months and months of breathing difficulties.

One arm db rowes x 6 sets
Lat pulldowns to the rear supersetted with lat pulldowns to the front x 6 sets
Diversional lat pulldowns 10 reps on right side, 10 reps on left side, 10 reps both arms  x 2 sets
Rear delt flye machine x 4 sets  (wanted to do bent over db flyes, but chose machine instead due to the fact that I was upright, taking nose swelling into consideration)
db bicep curls x 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 12, 2012, 02:17:03 AM
Very interesting Karen, i take it you mean by Diversional pulldowns One arm. I know the word "Diversion" from Military terminology as "a feint attack to draw the enemy away from the main attack" Diversional "to Divert" I have never used this exercise but have seen it used in Physio(using a single arm. Please explain it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 12, 2012, 02:20:50 AM
Back, rear delts and biceps

I increased both weight and sets this workout.  My nose felt some pressure during training but it wasn't something I couldn't handle.  On a really positive note, I am loving all the air that is able to get into my nose and down into my lungs.  Just an amazing feeling after having months and months of breathing difficulties.

One arm db rowes x 6 sets
Lat pulldowns to the rear supersetted with lat pulldowns to the front x 6 sets
Diversional lat pulldowns 10 reps on right side, 10 reps on left side, 10 reps both arms  x 2 sets
Rear delt flye machine x 4 sets  (wanted to do bent over db flyes, but chose machine instead due to the fact that I was upright, taking nose swelling into consideration)
db bicep curls x 4 sets

So, being as how we both have breathing issues. Do you hope that the surgery will solve all of your problems?

As I mentioned, I had a deviated septum repaired when I was quite young. Guess what? A deviated septum can come back to haunt you. As it turns out, I have  allergies which "clog my breathing" passages. In addition to having surgery, I was injected with whatever to counter allergies for a number of years. I even took and oral medication, Singulair to help me work through all the complications of my allergies which resulted in my getting pneumonia more times then I care to remember. I should have suffocated considering that I had pneumonia the first time when I was still an infant.

Here is my thinking on this, we get what we get. We can succumb to this and spend our lives compromised by our genetics or we can say "fuck it" and see better and healthier life for ourselves.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 12, 2012, 02:27:46 AM
So, being as how we both have breathing issues. Do you hope that the surgery will solve all of your problems?

As I mentioned, I had a deviated septum repaired when I was quite young. Guess what? A deviated septum can come back to haunt you. As it turns out, I have  allergies which "clog my breathing" passages. In addition to having surgery, I was injected with whatever to counter allergies for a number of years. I even took and oral medication, Singular to help me work through all the complications of my allergies which resulted in my getting pneumonia more times then I care to remember. I should have suffocated considering that I had pneumonia the first time when  I was still an infant.

Here is my thinking on this, we get what we get. We can succumb to this and spend our lives compromised by our genetics or we can say "fuck it" and see better and healthier life for ourselves.
It already has solved them all.  Since the surgery I have had no infections and no asthma.  My health has been perfect and the air I am getting through to my lungs feels amazing.  My sinus was blocked due to the fact that my septum wasn't straight and therefore air and what not was unable to flow properly.  By cleaning me completely out and straightening my nose (rhinoplasty), it has solved my health issues and is unlikely to ever return as my nose is straight now. 
I might add that I only began having health issues 16 months ago.  Prior to this, my nose had never bothered me and I rarely got sinus or infections.  I think it was just something that had built up over my lifetime.  Plus the fact that I had a bad cold last year and alot of mucus, so this was unable to drain and resulted in the blockage.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 12, 2012, 02:35:56 AM
so Today i will train shoulders and arms per my normal workout plan. I will however add some grip and forearm training Today. Hanging from my chinning bar and pinch grips. I will also do reverse ez bar preacher curls.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 13, 2012, 03:08:51 AM
yesterday evening inbetween i did multiple sets of bicep and tricep work. I worked my arms with shoulders and later i just kept doing one arm tricep extensions behind my neck and Dumbbell curls. I used a weight that i could keep using. my arms are sore today...sometimes itīs good to just rep out and forget about reps and sets... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 13, 2012, 06:03:27 AM
had great back workout,,reverse hammer pulldowns..standing pad to chest t bar row wide grip,low cable rows,close grip inner grip t bar row regular version,standing pulldown/pullover wide bar,,weighted hyper's,,  15 sets total ,,,
 bi's
abs too...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 13, 2012, 06:05:38 AM
had great back workout,,reverse hammer pulldowns..standing pad to chest t bar row wide grip,low cable rows,close grip inner grip t bar row regular version,standing pulldown/pullover wide bar,,weighted hyper's,,  15 sets total ,,,
 bi's
abs too...
Nice.... :) i loved reverse Hammer pulldowns...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 13, 2012, 07:04:15 PM
yesterday evening inbetween i did multiple sets of bicep and tricep work. I worked my arms with shoulders and later i just kept doing one arm tricep extensions behind my neck and Dumbbell curls. I used a weight that i could keep using. my arms are sore today...sometimes itīs good to just rep out and forget about reps and sets... ;)
That reminds me of when I first began training and I would rep out on calves all day.  I would be doing calf raises on the stairs at home. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 13, 2012, 11:57:58 PM
After my last back workout 2 days ago, I haven't trained due to the swelling and discomfort accross the bridge of my nose.  Am feeling a bit down today because of it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 14, 2012, 12:39:04 AM
After my last back workout 2 days ago, I haven't trained due to the swelling and discomfort accross the bridge of my nose.  Am feeling a bit down today because of it.

Are you feeling down because you didn't train or because your nose is swollen and uncomfortable? Are you remembering to put those frozen peas on your nose to reduce the swelling?

I really need to get back to the gym. Every little thing I do lately, makes me ache, especially my legs. I raked leaves, pulled out dead annuals and cut back perennials the other day and had sore hamstrings for two days. Then I decorated the house and trimmed the Christmas tree for a holiday potluck we hosted yesterday, climbing up and down a ladder all day Tuesday. Now my calves, quads and feet were really sore. I can only guess that this is because I have taken such a long holiday from hitting the weights. The other option is that I am just becoming a old man (which is true, but this is not how I imagined it). I don't mind looking old, but I want to still feel like I did as a young guy.  :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 14, 2012, 03:10:33 AM
Today is leg day...rounded off with some crunches and a run..hey prime do not worry after Xmas youīll be back to it. You are busy with all the preparations at home and that is more important now... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 14, 2012, 03:27:30 AM
Are you feeling down because you didn't train or because your nose is swollen and uncomfortable? Are you remembering to put those frozen peas on your nose to reduce the swelling?

I really need to get back to the gym. Every little thing I do lately, makes me ache, especially my legs. I raked leaves, pulled out dead annuals and cut back perennials the other day and had sore hamstrings for two days. Then I decorated the house and trimmed the Christmas tree for a holiday potluck we hosted yesterday, climbing up and down a ladder all day Tuesday. Now my calves, quads and feet were really sore. I can only guess that this is because I have taken such a long holiday from hitting the weights. The other option is that I am just becoming a old man (which is true, but this is not how I imagined it). I don't mind looking old, but I want to still feel like I did as a young guy.  :'(
Probably both, but more so because my nose is swollen and uncomfortable.  Yes I have been putting frozen peas on my nose multiple times during the day however it's not making a difference. 
PM walking up and down a ladder all day is going to work the calves and quads/glutes big time.  You'll get back into training once christmas is over with.   :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 14, 2012, 03:31:53 AM
yes all the good food over Xmas.... :P  pudding ....  the gyms are always full again just after Xmas and the New Year... ;D  All the little porkers. Karen maybe you should get your nose looked at by your Doctor..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 14, 2012, 03:53:06 AM
yes all the good food over Xmas.... :P  pudding ....  the gyms are always full again just after Xmas and the New Year... ;D  All the little porkers. Karen maybe you should get your nose looked at by your Doctor..
The gyms will be packed after new year and we will be frustrated by having to fight for equipment and room.  My surgeon isn't back here until March.  I was going to call the surgeon today but instead decided to keep icing my nose with frozen peas.  Nice day it was...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 14, 2012, 06:57:05 PM
Probably both, but more so because my nose is swollen and uncomfortable.  Yes I have been putting frozen peas on my nose multiple times during the day however it's not making a difference. 
PM walking up and down a ladder all day is going to work the calves and quads/glutes big time.  You'll get back into training once christmas is over with.   :)

Good, because there is nothing worst than having a flat sagging ass, IMO!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 15, 2012, 03:28:57 AM
Good, because there is nothing worst than having a flat sagging ass, IMO!
QFT.   ;D  At least we can stave off the gravity process via resistant weight training. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 15, 2012, 03:35:13 AM
My nose is still swollen and looks the same, but I think the bridge feels a little better and there is less popping in my ears when I swallow.  I have been a little emotional and sensitive the past day or so and then I realised I am getting my monthlys.  I usually don't get pms every month but this time I have it.  I increased my vitamin B.  Something you guys are lucky you don't have to cope with.  I hate it when my hormones are all over the place. 

Chest and delts.

Incline db presses x 4 sets
Incline db flyes x 4 sets
db shoulder presses x 4 sets
db lateral raises x 4 sets

I will train bis and tris together next time, probably with abs and calves. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 15, 2012, 03:39:49 AM
nice and i like how you split up your Delts(rear delts with Back). I also think 4 sets per ex is a good amount of work. Today i will jump some rope at home here and will do a few sets of these....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 15, 2012, 03:41:29 AM
Thanks Donny.  I like those abs exercises...they're really good.  How long will you do jump rope?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 15, 2012, 03:51:47 AM
I will do some Tabata training and i use a timer of you tube... set it and go...20 secs and 10 secs rest. I will do 2-3 circuits. I sometimes throw these crunches in there too for 20 secs. each circuit is only 4 mins but fairly fast. sometimes i will do 20 mins total and also do a 2-1 ratio.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 15, 2012, 03:59:45 AM
I will do some Tabata training and i use a timer of you tube... set it and go...20 secs and 10 secs rest. I will do 2-3 circuits. I sometimes throw these crunches in there too for 20 secs. each circuit is only 4 mins but fairly fast. sometimes i will do 20 mins total and also do a 2-1 ratio.
20 mins is a good circuit. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 15, 2012, 04:06:10 AM
20 mins is enough for me and i am average at jumping rope. I just jump with both feet or sometimes in a marking time marching motion 1 foot at a time. Tabata circuits are harder than you think if you go for it. 3 circuits one after another you are working... ;D At least the streets are a bit clearer now for running and it was warmer outside last night.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 15, 2012, 04:19:31 AM
Being warmer in temperature is going to help your workouts for sure.  When it's cold it takes longer for your body to warm up also. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 15, 2012, 02:22:09 PM
My nose is still swollen and looks the same, but I think the bridge feels a little better and there is less popping in my ears when I swallow.  I have been a little emotional and sensitive the past day or so and then I realised I am getting my monthlys.  I usually don't get pms every month but this time I have it.  I increased my vitamin B.  Something you guys are lucky you don't have to cope with.  I hate it when my hormones are all over the place. 

Chest and delts.

Incline db presses x 4 sets
Incline db flyes x 4 sets
db shoulder presses x 4 sets
db lateral raises x 4 sets

I will train bis and tris together next time, probably with abs and calves. 

Medical science is only just discovering how important hormones are to our health. I suspect mine are off since stopping the testosterone cypionate injections last year when the doctor first diagnosed my prostate cancer. I also suspect this has had much to do with my lack of ambition to workout and general feelings of malaise lately. Interestingly, I mentioned this to him yesterday during my 6 month checkup. As a result, when next I do lab work in three months my testosterone levels will be checked. Since the cancer is gone, I may go back on the shots without risk to my health. In the meantime, I will need to boost my testosterone levels via exercise and diet.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 16, 2012, 01:57:06 AM
bis, tris, abs


Bicep machine curl x 4 sets
db bicep curls x4 sets
db hammer curls x4 sets
Tricep pressdowns with v bar x 4 sets
rope pressdowns x 4 sets
Tricep extensions machine x 4 sets
Reverse crunches 15 reps x 3 sets  (this exercise put alot of pressure on my nose/bridge so didn't do many)
Crunches 50 reps x 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 16, 2012, 02:17:38 AM
bis, tris, abs


Bicep machine curl x 4 sets
db bicep curls x4 sets
db hammer curls x4 sets
Tricep pressdowns with v bar x 4 sets
rope pressdowns x 4 sets
Tricep extensions machine x 4 sets
Reverse crunches 15 reps x 3 sets  (this exercise put alot of pressure on my nose/bridge so didn't do many)
Crunches 50 reps x 4 sets

nice bit of intensity in there.. do you find doing Tricep pressdowns better first to warm up before Tri Ext machine? press downs with bar and rope yes i like the diffrent hand positions..the rope hitting the lateral head. very well planned Karen. do you ever use a supinated(underhand grip) on the bar too, the Medial head being hit well. I always liked the underhand grip with one arm at a time. I used pushdowns more as a finishing off movement.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 16, 2012, 02:25:28 AM
 :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 16, 2012, 09:01:48 AM
so just got back from a grueling run.... i am ready for a warm shower and my sofa... ;D and a nice cold Bananna Milk... Today is my Wedding Anniversary too...24 years... ;D i am getting old... :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 16, 2012, 07:19:13 PM
so just got back from a grueling run.... i am ready for a warm shower and my sofa... ;D and a nice cold Bananna Milk... Today is my Wedding Anniversary too...24 years... ;D i am getting old... :'(
congrats....i'm going on 8 soon,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 16, 2012, 08:52:46 PM
so just got back from a grueling run.... i am ready for a warm shower and my sofa... ;D and a nice cold Bananna Milk... Today is my Wedding Anniversary too...24 years... ;D i am getting old... :'(

You are halfway to where my wife and I are. We celebrated 48 years of marriage last October. Trust me, it only gets better and better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 17, 2012, 09:12:04 AM
Thanks Prime and njflex.. I have had a lot to do today and i will do chest and Back tomorrow and now to relax i will forget the stress and winter blues and go swimming. A trip to the local baths is just what i need... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 17, 2012, 10:56:28 AM
Thanks Prime and njflex.. I have had a lot to do today and i will do chest and Back tomorrow and now to relax i will forget the stress and winter blues and go swimming. A trip to the local baths is just what i need... ;)

Good idea. I woke up to snow and rain mix. Fortunately, it is not sticking. Our daughter is flying home to El Paso, TX today. She is afraid of flying and so any inclement weather makes her nervous. Tomorrow, things should start getting back to normal around here so maybe I'll make it to the gym.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 17, 2012, 05:44:03 PM
Lifted for back and chest today. I was shot but I wanted to do a little cardio so I fast walked 5 miles.

 I thought I would be back before the sun went down but I really was off. The trail in the woods was pitch black and then it started to rain. I couldn't see two feet in front of me. After stumbling around in the dark for what seemed like forever my wife asked when I got home, "how was your walk?"
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 17, 2012, 06:19:18 PM
Lifted for back and chest today. I was shot but I wanted to do a little cardio so I fast walked 5 miles.

 I thought I would be back before the sun went down but I really was off. The trail in the woods was pitch black and then it started to rain. I couldn't see two feet in front of me. After stumbling around in the dark for what seemed like forever my wife asked when I got home, "how was your walk?"
That's funny...getting lost in the woods.   ;D  I wouldn't like it, I would be spooked.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 17, 2012, 06:21:02 PM
Medical science is only just discovering how important hormones are to our health. I suspect mine are off since stopping the testosterone cypionate injections last year when the doctor first diagnosed my prostate cancer. I also suspect this has had much to do with my lack of ambition to workout and general feelings of malaise lately. Interestingly, I mentioned this to him yesterday during my 6 month checkup. As a result, when next I do lab work in three months my testosterone levels will be checked. Since the cancer is gone, I may go back on the shots without risk to my health. In the meantime, I will need to boost my testosterone levels via exercise and diet.
Hormones are extremely important for optimum health.  I think they rule us to a certain extent. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 17, 2012, 06:23:40 PM
nice bit of intensity in there.. do you find doing Tricep pressdowns better first to warm up before Tri Ext machine? press downs with bar and rope yes i like the diffrent hand positions..the rope hitting the lateral head. very well planned Karen. do you ever use a supinated(underhand grip) on the bar too, the Medial head being hit well. I always liked the underhand grip with one arm at a time. I used pushdowns more as a finishing off movement.
I just tried to mix it up Donny.  Personally I don't really like machines but I wanted some variety that day.  My favourite tricep exercise is pressdowns with the V bar.  I like the way it hits my tris.  I don't like using the straight bar as it irritates my wrists.  V bar seems to feel perfect for my body.  

Congrats to everyone who have recently celebrated wedding anniversaries.  I wish I was as lucky to be with someone for as long as you guys.  Instead my partner passed away this month, going on 13 years.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 17, 2012, 08:25:28 PM
So the plan is to do some brisk walking this afternoon outdoors, when the sun isn't as strong say around 6pm.  Since I am still not wearing my sunnies I will instead wear my aussie cowboy sunhat to keep the sun out of my eyes.  I will aim for at least an hour, possibly 1 hour and 30 mins if the sun stays up for me.  I don't want to be walking in the dark around here, too dangerous.  Tomorrow will be leg day..bring it on!!! 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 17, 2012, 08:37:24 PM
I don't want to be walking in the dark around here, too dangerous.  Tomorrow will be leg day..bring it on!!! 

Dangerous? Someone from Australia has been posting in another thread that it is only in the U.S.A. that bad things happen to people (at least involving guns). Are you saying that there are places in Australia which are not particularly safe? Do you live in a major city? Cities are often less safe than small towns. Where I live in West Linn, OR, I think you could go for a walk in the middle of the night and be pretty safe. The only problem would be not enough street lights and thus being able to see where you were going. Seems like there is one street light per block on the street were I live. Couple that with an abundance of trees which block the light and it can be pretty dark on the sidewalks.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 17, 2012, 10:08:53 PM
Dangerous? Someone from Australia has been posting in another thread that it is only in the U.S.A. that bad things happen to people (at least involving guns). Are you saying that there are places in Australia which are not particularly safe? Do you live in a major city? Cities are often less safe than small towns. Where I live in West Linn, OR, I think you could go for a walk in the middle of the night and be pretty safe. The only problem would be not enough street lights and thus being able to see where you were going. Seems like there is one street light per block on the street were I live. Couple that with an abundance of trees which block the light and it can be pretty dark on the sidewalks.
I got grabbed by a young guy on a bicycle oneday when I was walking and it was like 5pm.  He sneaked up behind me and put his hands up my shorts and rode off.  I couldn't do anything because it happened so quickly.  He planned it.  Earlier he had rode past saying sexual things to me and I brushed it off.  Then when nobody was around he grabbed me.  Things happen all the time here in Australia, not just the USA.  We have rapes and women go missing...even children go missing.  The only thing which is safer here is the schools...we have never had any shootings in any of our history. 
I never walk when it is dark or even when the sun is going down.  There have been rapes when I walk and that's just a few blocks from me.  It's a walking track and there are too many places and bushes for somebody to hide.  I wish I had a treadmill at home, I have always wanted one as then I could do my cardio whenever I wanted. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 17, 2012, 11:18:07 PM
I got grabbed by a young guy on a bicycle oneday when I was walking and it was like 5pm.  He sneaked up behind me and put his hands up my shorts and rode off.  I couldn't do anything because it happened so quickly.  He planned it.  Earlier he had rode past saying sexual things to me and I brushed it off.  Then when nobody was around he grabbed me.  Things happen all the time here in Australia, not just the USA.  We have rapes and women go missing...even children go missing.  The only thing which is safer here is the schools...we have never had any shootings in any of our history. 
I never walk when it is dark or even when the sun is going down.  There have been rapes when I walk and that's just a few blocks from me.  It's a walking track and there are too many places and bushes for somebody to hide.  I wish I had a treadmill at home, I have always wanted one as then I could do my cardio whenever I wanted. 


I am sorry to read that Australia is in many ways not much different that the U.S., but it doesn't surprise me. People are people wherever you are. There is really no reason to think otherwise, unfortunately.

When I was a kid 6 years of age, I was shuffled off to live with my father in a small town in Michigan called Parma. Because my dad was trying to get his business going, he farmed me out with some townspeople, so I really wasn't living with him after all. A year later my dad disappeared after a big fight with his girlfriend. I then went to live with cousins on their dairy farm in neighboring Albion, MI. It was a simple and good life for me, a spoiled city kid, who by now had lived all over the world with a variety of relatives from both sides of my family.

For many years, I dreamed of returning to Albion with my wife and children to live. This never worked out, unfortunately. Margie, my wife and I could move there now except for her poor health, so I have to think that it just isn't meant to be. Maybe this is a good thing. I would be very disappointed if we went there and it was no different than living in the city. Years ago, little towns in America, like Albion were somewhat isolated from the ills and complications of the rest of the world. Communications being what they are today, this is no longer the case. Still, I would like to think a person could take a walk at anytime in Albion and be perfectly safe.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 18, 2012, 12:44:16 AM
1 hour of brisk walking outdoors.  Heat just about killed me and it's so humid as it's trying to rain here.  Hello big nose....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 18, 2012, 05:43:15 AM
well nowadays you get idiots everywhere. In Winter i run on the streets and have had myself a couple of near run ins. You get groups of young Guys running around looking for trouble, nothing new but nowadays they will be tooled up or will beat you to Death. remember getting comments from a group of young Turks as i ran past and i turned and said "Fuck off". They do not like Brits here(Turks) and one told the other in German to leave it because he knew i was going to rumble. I have thought about getting a telescopic baton and it's quick and closes down to pocket size. Easy to carry while running. Flick it out and whack them. Karen maybe you should try Escrima and it is a good system. Anyway back to training:

Flat Bench press 4x6-8
Flat Flyes           4x10+
Push-ups with feet on bench to hit upper pecs/shoulders 4x max SUPERSET with Incline flyes 4x 10+

Sternum pull-ups 4x max
Barbell rows        4x10
T-Bar rows(using a close grip V attachment i have on the weighted end of the Bar,empty end in a corner.  4x10
shrugs 3x 12-15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 18, 2012, 05:48:24 AM
http://telescopic-batons.com/telescopic-steel-baton.htm
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 18, 2012, 08:22:52 AM
Not big on stretching before weight training but i found this good today but i started holding the towel at waist height and "dislocated" my shoulder moving the towel in an arc over my head to my back region arms always straight as in the picture).
http://exrx.net/Stretches/PectoralisMinor/Towel.html
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 19, 2012, 04:27:51 AM
Crappy leg workout because I didn't eat enough during the day to carry me through my workout.  It's very hot here and my appetite is down, but I need to force myself to eat more on days where I will be training larger muscle groups such as legs.  Just didn't have the energy...

Thigh extensions x 6 sets
Split squats x 3 sets (10 each leg)
Laying leg curls x 3 sets
Seated Leg curls x 3 sets
Leg adductor machine x 3 sets
Standing calf raises x 3 sets  (Everytime I do this exercise I get a strange headache behind my nose and eyes/head.  It must be the weight on my shoulders putting pressure on my nose). 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 19, 2012, 05:21:50 AM
today i have to go to a sport Hall here and supervise a sport group so i will take my bike as the streets are clear now of snow. take me about 25 Min's to get there and i will use this for my cardio. I got myself a new mountain bike...not expensive but it does me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 19, 2012, 05:27:43 AM
How's your shoulder Donny? 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 19, 2012, 06:49:33 AM
had great chest workout yesterday.
started with heavy inc db presses got up to 80's 
hammer low/mid press plate loaded type 3 plates per side
cable crossovers repped 12/12/12
smith flat press x3 heavy as i could go last set just 45 ea side 15 reps nice pump...
dips bodyweight x2 15/13 reps
total sets 15...
tris and abs too...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 19, 2012, 08:55:24 AM
how much rest do you guys give yourselves?  I wanted to go for a run this AM but my body is revolting, I`m 44 and have been trying to drop some fat so caloric intake has been down, so is the energy level.
 I have been working at some type of vigorous exercise at least 5 days a week but it seems to be catching up with me, down 10lbs in two weeks though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 19, 2012, 09:11:21 AM
How's your shoulder Donny? 
well i have never had another problem with it. i am sure it was behind the neck chins that caused it. i never do any pressing or chins wide grip anymore. The shoulder injury you mention Karen was Bursitis. I used too much weight or incorrect form..or training too much as it is an over use injury. I use now the stretch with a towel and it's fine. Been a while since that injury..you are very observant Karen.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 19, 2012, 09:21:07 AM
how much rest do you guys give yourselves?  I wanted to go for a run this AM but my body is revolting, I`m 44 and have been trying to drop some fat so caloric intake has been down, so is the energy level.
 I have been working at some type of vigorous exercise at least 5 days a week but it seems to be catching up with me, down 10lbs in two weeks though.
well i find running in the morning not good.. sure they all say run early on an empty stomach. I believe that about mid afternoon is perfect to weight train and cardio straight after. Train 3 days a week and allow a rest day inbetween, 2 if you need it. The body mid afternoon  is "awake" then and your muscles are warm from normal movements. First thing in the morning is not good in my opinion. I run/walk... move every day but this is through years of activity and my body takes it. I would suggest Quality not Quantity and cut it down to 3 days Vigorous activity and over say a year build it up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 19, 2012, 09:29:34 AM
had great chest workout yesterday.
started with heavy inc db presses got up to 80's 
hammer low/mid press plate loaded type 3 plates per side
cable crossovers repped 12/12/12
smith flat press x3 heavy as i could go last set just 45 ea side 15 reps nice pump...
dips bodyweight x2 15/13 reps
total sets 15...
tris and abs too...
Respect..nice weight for Incline DB press. I would not be able to train my Triceps after such a chest workout. I would maybe pair triceps with shoulders...if at all.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 19, 2012, 09:49:44 AM
how much rest do you guys give yourselves?  I wanted to go for a run this AM but my body is revolting, I`m 44 and have been trying to drop some fat so caloric intake has been down, so is the energy level.
 I have been working at some type of vigorous exercise at least 5 days a week but it seems to be catching up with me, down 10lbs in two weeks though.
Also try a routine like this..
Bench press
Chins
Squats

parallel Bar dips
Deadlifts
Barbell shoulder press

alternate the two as workout A and B over 3 days a week or Day on Day off. QUALITY my friend...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 19, 2012, 10:24:22 AM
Respect..nice weight for Incline DB press. I would not be able to train my Triceps after such a chest workout. I would maybe pair triceps with shoulders...if at all.
thanx maybe i will switch up to shoulder day/tris i'm due to shake up...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 19, 2012, 10:29:25 PM

alternate the two as workout A and B over 3 days a week or Day on Day off. QUALITY my friend...

 you are right. I was doing lift, box/run, 1 day off, box/run, lift, box/run, 1 day off.  It was just more than I can recover effectively from, takes more time nowadays for sure.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 20, 2012, 07:40:01 AM
Today i did shoulders and arms:
Barbell press 4x6-8
side raises(seated) 4x12
Bent over laterals   4x12

seated alternate DB curls 3x8-10
Preacher bench ez bar reverse curls 3x8-10
Lying ez bar extensions 3x10
close hand push ups on floor 3xmax (safer than close grip bench when training alone)
Crunches 3xmax Feet flat on floor
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 20, 2012, 08:25:17 AM
BACK
REVERSE HAMMER PULLDOWNS
WIDE BAR LOWER CABLE ROW
BENT OVER DB ROW KNEE ON BENCH PUMPED 85/90/100 FOR REPS 12/10/9
TBAR ROW chest to pad type...
WIDE BAR PULLOVER/PULLDOEN STANDING UP SLIGHT BEND AT WAIST

WEIGHTED HYPERS

BI'S
CURLS STRAIGHT BAR 45 LB BAR FINISHED WITH 35 PLATE FOR HARD 8
SEATED DB CURLS FINISHED WITH 45 DB
ROPE CURLS TO LOWER PORTION BICEP
SCOTT CURL MACHINE WEIGHTED STACH TYPE
 11 SETS TOTAL...

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 21, 2012, 01:52:04 AM
BACK
REVERSE HAMMER PULLDOWNS
WIDE BAR LOWER CABLE ROW
BENT OVER DB ROW KNEE ON BENCH PUMPED 85/90/100 FOR REPS 12/10/9
TBAR ROW chest to pad type...
WIDE BAR PULLOVER/PULLDOEN STANDING UP SLIGHT BEND AT WAIST

WEIGHTED HYPERS

BI'S
CURLS STRAIGHT BAR 45 LB BAR FINISHED WITH 35 PLATE FOR HARD 8
SEATED DB CURLS FINISHED WITH 45 DB
ROPE CURLS TO LOWER PORTION BICEP
SCOTT CURL MACHINE WEIGHTED STACH TYPE
 11 SETS TOTAL...

ABS

solid as always.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 21, 2012, 03:05:02 AM
Very very average back workout today.  I wasn't really in the right frame mind and therefore felt as though I just went through the motions.  Plus it doesn't help that my nose swells the most when I train back and I felt as though my nose was getting a bit of mucus developing for some odd reason.  It when was I was bent over in db rowes.

One armed db rowes x 6 sets
Lat pulldowns to the front x 4 sets
Diversional lat pulldown machine x 4 sets
Bent over db lateral raises x 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 21, 2012, 04:44:21 AM
Very very average back workout today.  I wasn't really in the right frame mind and therefore felt as though I just went through the motions.  Plus it doesn't help that my nose swells the most when I train back and I felt as though my nose was getting a bit of mucus developing for some odd reason.  It when was I was bent over in db rowes.

One armed db rowes x 6 sets
Lat pulldowns to the front x 4 sets
Diversional lat pulldown machine x 4 sets
Bent over db lateral raises x 4 sets
Look after your nose.. ;) Itīs snowing again here... :(  still going to run later...HARDCORE ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 21, 2012, 09:01:12 AM
 Lifted last night, bench, bb rows, overhead press, curls. Did a 2 mile run this am followed by 25 minutes on the heavy bag. Off til sunday,  :D, quality not quantity right.
 It was around 25F here this am, I like running and working out in the cold myself.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 21, 2012, 09:25:30 AM
Lifted last night, bench, bb rows, overhead press, curls. Did a 2 mile run this am followed by 25 minutes on the heavy bag. Off til sunday,  :D, quality not quantity right.
 It was around 25F here this am, I like running and working out in the cold myself.
yes i mean work hard on a few Basics and you will get results. Keep it simple. You should be a Scot... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 21, 2012, 09:58:37 AM
yes i mean work hard on a few Basics and you will get results. Keep it simple. You should be a Scot... ;D

 Scots Irish and Cherokee, I`m a mutant.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 21, 2012, 10:03:45 AM
Scots Irish and Cherokee, I`m a mutant.
yeah...you got some crazy blood in there... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 21, 2012, 05:13:27 PM
Scots Irish and Cherokee, I`m a mutant.

Supposedly, a distant ancestor of mine was a Cherokee Indian princess. According to what my mom told me, I am 1/64 Cherokee Indian. Maybe this is why I never burn when out in the sun. I do like my "fire water" on occasion. LOL! My maternal grandmother was French. She grew up in Brittany, France. I just found out that my maternal grandfather's surname was originally Irish. The paternal side of my family are all English, I believe. However, my dad's ancestors immigrated to the Americas prior to the Revolutionary war. Guess that makes me pretty much just an American.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 21, 2012, 05:17:49 PM
My medical insurance provider sent me a gym membership card called SilverSneakers in the mail today. Apparently this allows me membership in various gyms the world over. Unfortunately, my regular gym is not on their list. Still, it should be good to enjoy a change of scenery every so often and who knows? Maybe I can talk the owners of the gym I use to accept the SilverSneakers card too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 21, 2012, 08:25:59 PM
my great great grandmothers name was red trigger.

 alcohol and me don`t mix well, at all. glad I lived through that phase.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 22, 2012, 02:20:10 AM
Well my Mother came from Islay  the W coast of Scotland.. i was born in Dunfermline in the Kingdom of Fife ;) bit of Scottish West and East Coast and my Father Motherwell. I grew up in the Stirling area though...100% Scottish prime Beef  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 22, 2012, 04:35:13 AM
Look after your nose.. ;) Itīs snowing again here... :(  still going to run later...HARDCORE ;D
My nose has been throbbing a little today.  I was going to train chest today but due to the throbbing I decided against it.  Been googling about swelling and how to reduce it and I might go back to sleeping up against a couple of pillows.  Also I can try to reduce my salt intake, not that I have alot to begin with.  But with the hot climate there is not alot I can do. 
I wish you could send me some snow Donny.  Like I said I would put my face down in it.   ;D  It would just be nice to be in a cooler climate at this time post op. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on December 22, 2012, 04:57:14 AM
My nose has been throbbing a little today.  I was going to train chest today but due to the throbbing I decided against it.  Been googling about swelling and how to reduce it and I might go back to sleeping up against a couple of pillows.  Also I can try to reduce my salt intake, not that I have alot to begin with.  But with the hot climate there is not alot I can do. 
I wish you could send me some snow Donny.  Like I said I would put my face down in it.   ;D  It would just be nice to be in a cooler climate at this time post op. 

 ::)
do you know how much you've been moaning about your nose ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 22, 2012, 05:15:18 AM
My nose has been throbbing a little today.  I was going to train chest today but due to the throbbing I decided against it.  Been googling about swelling and how to reduce it and I might go back to sleeping up against a couple of pillows.  Also I can try to reduce my salt intake, not that I have alot to begin with.  But with the hot climate there is not alot I can do. 
I wish you could send me some snow Donny.  Like I said I would put my face down in it.   ;D  It would just be nice to be in a cooler climate at this time post op. 
you would just need to go for a short walk here and your nose would be cold...LOL
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 22, 2012, 05:28:53 AM
so no weights today just a brisk walk for fresh air...but at the moment i am full of Tomato soup... :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 22, 2012, 05:34:18 AM
you would just need to go for a short walk here and your nose would be cold...LOL
I would love it.   ;D  I love fresh crisp air too...it's so enjoyable to walk in. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 22, 2012, 05:35:03 AM
so no weights today just a brisk walk for fresh air...but at the moment i am full of Tomato soup... :P
Did you eat it with toast and lots of butter?   :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 22, 2012, 05:47:10 AM
Did you eat it with toast and lots of butter?   :P
yes white toast bread with butter and i must admit i have no table manners...my mouth area was all red.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 22, 2012, 05:54:24 AM
yes white toast bread with butter and i must admit i have no table manners...my mouth area was all red.. ;D
That's exactly how I eat mine...I like white toast with alot of butter and I do have manners but I still manage to get butter running down my chin.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 22, 2012, 06:17:40 AM
NUTELLA ON WHOLE GRAIN BREAD,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 22, 2012, 06:30:22 AM
NUTELLA ON WHOLE GRAIN BREAD,,,,
You're so healthy.   ;D

 :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 22, 2012, 06:33:29 AM
My ultimate favs are sweet hala bread, french bread of any kind and linseed with 7 seeds.  But for any kind of toast with soups I like white bread and lots of butter and thats how I eat vegemite on toast too...it must be white and buttered well. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 22, 2012, 07:03:21 AM
I really should try harder to have table manners...just canīt help it... :-[
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 22, 2012, 02:10:24 PM
::)
do you know how much you've been moaning about your nose ?

Don't you suppose if your nose were throbbing, you might "moan" about it too?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 22, 2012, 04:06:30 PM
quads
leg press warmed up with 2 per side then,,,,,,4 plates.5,,6,,7,,7.5
hack squat 4 then 2 sets 5 plates per side
lunges up stairs 50 lb db up,down,up,down 2 x tough,heavy breath/heartbeat..
extensions x3//

hams
stifflegged deadlifts 185,235,255,
seated leg curl

calves
superset standing calf raise with leg press toe raise x3 nice pump,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 23, 2012, 12:59:48 AM
Chest, delts

db incline chest press x 6 sets
db incline flyes x 4 sets
db lateral raises x 4 sets
db shoulder presses x 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 23, 2012, 01:32:44 AM
quads
leg press warmed up with 2 per side then,,,,,,4 plates.5,,6,,7,,7.5
hack squat 4 then 2 sets 5 plates per side
lunges up stairs 50 lb db up,down,up,down 2 x tough,heavy breath/heartbeat..
extensions x3//

hams
stifflegged deadlifts 185,235,255,
seated leg curl

calves
superset standing calf raise with leg press toe raise x3 nice pump,,,
Lunges upstairs..jeez by the time you got to extensions you must have been walking like John Wayne..!! Hardcore
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 23, 2012, 04:13:45 AM
I've never heard of lunges upstairs. That would be a killer!   Great leg workout Njflex.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 23, 2012, 04:16:57 AM
I've never heard of lunges upstairs. That would be a killer!   Great leg workout Njflex.
I have years ago done walking up stairs with a sand bag on my shoulders and that is a killer. Lunges is new to me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 23, 2012, 06:23:14 AM
yeah i have fallen in love with lunges lst few yrs great way to end workout,,,as for the stairs its about 20 steps up what i do i skip the 1st one and plant foot to 2nd and then skip again and other leg follows so its 12 up usually then turn around and its all 20 down i kinda fast pace down ,then turn around back up so i do this 2x then rest and go again 2x  and i use 50 lb dbells it hurts but nice hurt,,,i usually train with someone not yesterday i usually clock in at an 1 hr for quads,hams ,calves,,,thanxs for positive feedback..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 23, 2012, 06:44:19 AM
yeah i have fallen in love with lunges lst few yrs great way to end workout,,,as for the stairs its about 20 steps up what i do i skip the 1st one and plant foot to 2nd and then skip again and other leg follows so its 12 up usually then turn around and its all 20 down i kinda fast pace down ,then turn around back up so i do this 2x then rest and go again 2x  and i use 50 lb dbells it hurts but nice hurt,,,i usually train with someone not yesterday i usually clock in at an 1 hr for quads,hams ,calves,,,thanxs for positive feedback..
Itīs no wonder you have such great Leg development ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 23, 2012, 07:10:59 AM
Itīs no wonder you have such great Leg development ..
thanx donny,,,people at my gym kids/ older guys shake there heads and say u really like training legs,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on December 23, 2012, 09:41:16 AM
Don't you suppose if your nose were throbbing, you might "moan" about it too?

no

this is a training thread not a support group for whiners
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 23, 2012, 11:27:37 AM
so...i went for a nice easy jog tonight. Tomorrow Germans celebrate Xmas on the 24th..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 23, 2012, 01:26:27 PM
no

this is a training thread not a support group for whiners

Perhaps you are right. However, sometimes some things get in the way of training. I know I have come up with a goodly number of excuses lately.  ;)

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 23, 2012, 03:20:30 PM
lifted today, bench, overhead press, bb rows, curls, and then a 2 mile walk with the dogs in the rain.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 23, 2012, 05:52:14 PM
chest today did a 'donny' workout a bit supersetting
pretty strong considering the pump..
fdb press 60,70,70,reps 12,10,8 supersetted with db flat flyes 40,45,45 dbs,,reps 10/10/8
smith incl supersetted with hammer mid press 10 reps per superset eac movement
cable crossovers with bodyweight dips  ,,,

tris
overhead rope outs supersetted with reverse grip pulldowns
tri dip machine superset w/pushdowns
finished cable kickbacks..

abs..

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 24, 2012, 04:38:02 AM
chest today did a 'donny' workout a bit supersetting
pretty strong considering the pump..
fdb press 60,70,70,reps 12,10,8 supersetted with db flat flyes 40,45,45 dbs,,reps 10/10/8
smith incl supersetted with hammer mid press 10 reps per superset eac movement
cable crossovers with bodyweight dips  ,,,

tris
overhead rope outs supersetted with reverse grip pulldowns
tri dip machine superset w/pushdowns
finished cable kickbacks..

abs..


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 24, 2012, 04:53:28 AM
Nice workout njflex i like it. I will also superset today With my chest +back workout.

I will do a very short intense workout because of time limitations today(its Xmas Day in Germany):

Parallel Bar Dips  With
Chinning the bar  Maximum reps on Both Exercises For 5 sets each.

short but 5 hard sets on each and it will work all my pulling and pushing muscles. Quality of Training !!

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 24, 2012, 08:25:06 AM
TRAINING BOARDERS HAVE GOOD CHRISTMAS EVE,,,AND CHRISTMAS,,,,,2 DAYS OFF TRAINING  :),,,NEED IT,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 24, 2012, 09:01:14 AM
TRAINING BOARDERS HAVE GOOD CHRISTMAS EVE,,,AND CHRISTMAS,,,,,2 DAYS OFF TRAINING  :),,,NEED IT,,,
SAME TO YOU :::AND MERRY XMAS EVERYONE  ;D ;) ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 24, 2012, 02:27:19 PM
It's Christmas here now.  So Merry Christmas everyone and enjoy the time with your family!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 24, 2012, 03:16:21 PM
2 mile run and 1/2 hr on the heavy bag, peace and merry christmas.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 24, 2012, 03:44:26 PM
It's Christmas here now.  So Merry Christmas everyone and enjoy the time with your family!

Thanks for posting this. Merry Christmas to you too.

It is Christmas eve where I live. My wife and I are chilling out. We tried calling our son, but they were probably out at a German Christmas bash (fest). Germans celebrate on Christmas eve. I just ran to McDonald's for some chicken McNuggets for a snack for us. My suggestion for dinner was chicken enchiladas and salad. My wife thought that sound good. Tomorrow we are fixing a prime rib. We celebrate Christmas on Christmas day.

After Margie goes to bed, I'll wrap her presents. I am a last minute sort of guy with a Santa beard. LOL!   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 25, 2012, 09:30:24 AM
my christmas eve dinner even tho i'm american keeping italian tradition is some way,,,7 fishes course i do five have in laws over here the meal..
course 1
antipasto with provolone,parmigano reggiano,stuffed peppers with breadcrumbs,tomatoes,anchovies,,artichokes,assorted olives,shrimp cold,
mozzarella and tomatoe and basil ,pepperoni bread,baccala

course 2 cooked mussels with diced tomatoes and stuffed scallops,bread,,

course 3 lobster ravioli w vodka sauce,,

dessert ,,espresso,reg cofee,,homeade choc mousse,homeade cookies biscotti,peanut butter,apple pie,,

wine of course red,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 25, 2012, 03:48:05 PM
my christmas eve dinner even tho i'm american keeping italian tradition is some way,,,7 fishes course i do five have in laws over here the meal..
course 1
antipasto with provolone,parmigano reggiano,stuffed peppers with breadcrumbs,tomatoes,anchovies,,artichokes,assorted olives,shrimp cold,
mozzarella and tomatoe and basil ,pepperoni bread,baccala

course 2 cooked mussels with diced tomatoes and stuffed scallops,bread,,

course 3 lobster ravioli w vodka sauce,,

dessert ,,espresso,reg cofee,,homeade choc mousse,homeade cookies biscotti,peanut butter,apple pie,,

wine of course red,,,,

When is dinner served? I'll be there.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 25, 2012, 04:29:31 PM
When is dinner served? I'll be there.
lol....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 25, 2012, 04:32:07 PM
I want to come for dinner too.   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 25, 2012, 04:45:54 PM
yeah good food and family,,,christmas day at mom's again nuts,,,
cheese ravioli,antipasto,sausage,meatball's,turkey ham white and pink,brussels sprouts,stuffing,espresso,baked cookies homeade,wine...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 25, 2012, 05:25:27 PM
yeah good food and family,,,christmas day at mom's again nuts,,,
cheese ravioli,antipasto,sausage,meatball's,turkey ham white and pink,brussels sprouts,stuffing,espresso,baked cookies homeade,wine...

You Italians, I don't know how you can eat such quantities of delicious food and not all be as big as houses. Is it the wine?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 25, 2012, 05:30:27 PM
Italian is my favourite food.  I reckon I could eat that alone and never touch another dish from any other culture/nationality. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 26, 2012, 02:16:38 AM
I have a bit of a hangover today...i am tempted to do a short workout... ;D It was the wine yesterday :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 26, 2012, 02:23:42 AM
No hang over but my kitten threw up on me at 1am and so I got very little sleep due to cleaning and then being cold all night as my doona was in the laundry.  I skipped my workout from lack of sleep. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 26, 2012, 02:25:54 AM
No hang over but my kitten threw up on me at 1am and so I got very little sleep due to cleaning and then being cold all night as my doona was in the laundry.  I skipped my workout from lack of sleep. 
later you can take a nap... I have 2 rabbits at home.. i like animals.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 26, 2012, 02:33:50 AM
later you can take a nap... I have 2 rabbits at home.. i like animals.
I love animals too, but I don't like being thrown up on when I am asleep. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 26, 2012, 03:44:10 AM
 :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 26, 2012, 04:28:16 AM
Awwww I love their colourings, they are so cute Donny.  :) I had rabbits when I lived in Melbourne (Tolya and Natasha) but I couldn't bring them with me when I moved back to queensland as you need a permit here. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on December 26, 2012, 04:07:42 PM
SMITH MACHINE SQUATS   4 SETS

LEG PRESS   3 SETS

LEG EXTENSIONS  3 SETS


STIFF LEG DEADLIFTS  3 SETS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 27, 2012, 01:27:39 AM
Nice to see the wild Willie with us..a simple no nonsence workout...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 27, 2012, 03:29:13 AM
Today is Shoulders +arms :

Pre exhaust superset with :
Side Db laterals strict seated + BB press 4x10( 12 reps on side laterals)
Rear delt raises with head on incline bench so no body swinging. 4x12

BB curls 5x10 superset with
Lying ez bar extensions 5x10

reverse ez bar curls on preacher bench 3x10+ superset with
BB wrist curls on flat bench 3x10+

I will finish off with some hanging knee raises for abs.. i will use my bench where i am supported on my arms. After a rest doing Abs i will do some pich grips.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 27, 2012, 04:40:56 AM
Nice to see the wild Willie with us..a simple no nonsence workout...
one of the finer posters on the whole board,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 27, 2012, 05:52:13 AM
one of the finer posters on the whole board,,,
I agree always very polite.. as you are too. I TRY to be nice... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 28, 2012, 03:10:10 AM
so today i am going for a long cycle in the woods here on my moutain bike. Cycling is a great fat burner and works my legs and calfes..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 28, 2012, 04:01:08 AM
Bis, tris and abs followed by 20 mins on treadmill walking on incline

db bicep curls x 6 sets
barbell bicep curls x 6 sets
tricep pressdowns with V bar x 6 sets
rope pressdowns x 6 sets
Crunches x 100 reps
situps x 3 sets 15 reps per set  (should have done them before crunches)
crunches on ball x 2 sets

I began squeezing after my first set of crunches and had a lot of mucas in my nose.  I had to cut my ab training short as I then had so much swelling and mucas that I was blowing my nose into a tissue.  When I got home I used my air flow bottle to wash/cleanse my nose out.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 28, 2012, 04:10:47 AM
nice ab workout ..well suppose you pre-exhausted them... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 28, 2012, 04:21:00 AM
nice ab workout ..well suppose you pre-exhausted them... ;D
I didn't really, that's the thing.  I only did a couple of reps on the ball before I decided to stop because I remembered the exact same thing happening last time I trained my abs.  More like I pre-exhausted my nose. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 28, 2012, 05:11:38 AM
well the bike ride got kicked into touch...lol too lazy today...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 28, 2012, 05:18:33 AM
well the bike ride got kicked into touch...lol too lazy today...
Don't be lazy like me...go for that bike ride Donny!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 28, 2012, 05:33:17 AM
Don't be lazy like me...go for that bike ride Donny!
too late...i just pigged out..iīm bloated now... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 28, 2012, 05:37:19 AM
so today i am going for a long cycle in the woods here on my moutain bike. Cycling is a great fat burner and works my legs and calfes..

thats funny I rode mine yesterday morning as well, just a 2 mile ride with the hounds up the mountain, nothing fancy.
 tried to lift yesterday evening and was exhausted. made it through bench [sloppy] and curls did a couple of sets of dips and that was it.

 2 mile run and heavy bag work today, we will see how that goes. Haven`t been sleeping right this week so at least I know why I am down.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 28, 2012, 05:48:36 AM

thats funny I rode mine yesterday morning as well, just a 2 mile ride with the hounds up the mountain, nothing fancy.
 tried to lift yesterday evening and was exhausted. made it through bench [sloppy] and curls did a couple of sets of dips and that was it.

 2 mile run and heavy bag work today, we will see how that goes. Haven`t been sleeping right this week so at least I know why I am down.
Bike riding i find easy on the joints(as long as your seat is adjusted correctly). when i had my last bike before it got stolen.. ??? i cycled every day to work and it really kept me slim. I enjoyed it. I really only ran maybe a couple of times a week in between with a friend. cycling is a fun way to get your cardio in.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on December 28, 2012, 05:58:17 AM

thats funny I rode mine yesterday morning as well, just a 2 mile ride with the hounds up the mountain, nothing fancy.
 tried to lift yesterday evening and was exhausted. made it through bench [sloppy] and curls did a couple of sets of dips and that was it.

 2 mile run and heavy bag work today, we will see how that goes. Haven`t been sleeping right this week so at least I know why I am down.

how long do you work on the bag ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 28, 2012, 06:37:42 AM
 I wind up working at it for 25 to 30 minutes, I have a stopwatch and go for a minute and a half on, then 1 minute off just working on combos, after about 20 minutes of that I do 2 drills where you go in throw 10 punches and back out for 1 and 1/2 minutes. I finish with 2 rounds of a drill I call 1 to 20, you start throwing 1 punch and back out, 2 punches and back out all the way up to 20 hits in a flurry. It usually takes me up to the threshold of barfing,  :D,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 28, 2012, 07:04:59 AM
I TOOK 2 DAYS OFF FOR HOLIDAY MON,TUES,,,WED CAME AND SNOW /SLEET IN JERSEY MY MOM WAS GOING TO COME OVER TO WATCH KIDS FOR ME TO TRAIN SHE COULDN'T COME DUE TO WEATHER SO I DID A DUMBELL,PUSHUP THING IN BASEMENT FOR PUMP SOME LATERALS,CURLS,RAISES,TRI KICKBACKS,ONE HANDED EXTENSIONS ONLY HAD LIGHT DUMBELL ,,YESTERDAY MAKE UP FOR BODYPARTS MISSED WED/THURS BACK,BI,CALVES,DELTS DID A CURCUIT BUT HEAVY WEIGHT DID THIS,,,,

CURCUIT 1 2X AROUND...DB PRESS,,TBAR ROW,,BICEP CURL
CURCUIT 2 2 X  SIDE RAISE,LOW ROW,SEAT DB CURL
CURCUIT 3 2X ..HAMMER REVERSE PULLDOWN,,,BENT OVER REAR RAISE CABLE,,DB CURL ELBOW TO THIGH
CURCUIT 4 2X,,CABLE UPRIGHT WITH HANDLES ...STANDUP PULLOVER/PULLDOWN,,,SEATED SCOTT CURL MACHINE
CURCUIT 5..ABS ROMAN SITUP,LAYING DOWN ON FLOOR FEET ON BENCH CRUNCH 10 LB PLATE,,,CALF RAISE 3 X AROUND...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 28, 2012, 07:47:58 AM
yes Circuit training can be brutal ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 28, 2012, 03:26:24 PM
Bike riding i find easy on the joints(as long as your seat is adjusted correctly). when i had my last bike before it got stolen.. ??? i cycled every day to work and it really kept me slim. I enjoyed it. I really only ran maybe a couple of times a week in between with a friend. cycling is a fun way to get your cardio in.

Many years ago, my doctor told me to stop running and start riding my bicycle more. He thought running was harmful to one's health. Maybe it was because I was forever twisting my knee by stepping wrong on the curb or some such thing. The Portland metro area is filled with bicycle paths and right-of-ways. Despite this, you often read about someone getting hit by a car while riding their bikes. A lot of folks act like bicycle riders shouldn't be on the road. I like riding my bicycle in good weather. However, I think my doctor was mistaken about it not being harmful to one's health. It seems more bicyclist are run over than joggers.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 29, 2012, 12:50:57 AM
Well it's the next day and I am still swallowing mucas from my nose and it's pretty blocked and swollen.  I got very little sleep last night because I worked myself up over it all.  And yes i am disappointed in myself for being so weak minded and allowing this to get to me.  I haven't trained today because I didn't know if I should or not. The level headed side of me says to listen to my body, be smart etc but then another side is telling me to just go to gym.   Do I push myself?  I have basically tore into myself so bad today that now I need to train for my sanity and for the endorphins.  So I am writing this so that now I have no choice but to go to gym. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 29, 2012, 02:34:03 AM
Well it's the next day and I am still swallowing mucas from my nose and it's pretty blocked and swollen.  I got very little sleep last night because I worked myself up over it all.  And yes i am disappointed in myself for being so weak minded and allowing this to get to me.  I haven't trained today because I didn't know if I should or not. The level headed side of me says to listen to my body, be smart etc but then another side is telling me to just go to gym.   Do I push myself?  I have basically tore into myself so bad today that now I need to train for my sanity and for the endorphins.  So I am writing this so that now I have no choice but to go to gym. 
maybe just do 2 sets on each exercise Karen. 2 good sets are enough. Today i will get my bubble butt outside and will run at 6pm with a friend. He is a runner and i know it will hurt, sweat out the booze ;D before hand i will work legs(not a good idea if i run later but i will just have to) Today:

Dumbbell squats 4x15
Dumbbell stiff legged Deadlifts 4x15
Dumbbell lunges 3x10
one legged Dumbbell calf raise 5x12+

Ab crunches calves on a Bench 3x max

thatīs it very simple and i like Dumbbells too..higher reps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 29, 2012, 02:44:24 AM
Many years ago, my doctor told me to stop running and start riding my bicycle more. He thought running was harmful to one's health. Maybe it was because I was forever twisting my knee by stepping wrong on the curb or some such thing. The Portland metro area is filled with bicycle paths and right-of-ways. Despite this, you often read about someone getting hit by a car while riding their bikes. A lot of folks act like bicycle riders shouldn't be on the road. I like riding my bicycle in good weather. However, I think my doctor was mistaken about it not being harmful to one's health. It seems more bicyclist are run over than joggers.
well over here itīs not too bad because there are good cycle paths but i know what you mean. The guy who iīm running with later does Tri- athlon stuff too and has a top racer bike. He told me when he was training for competition on the roads he got a lot of abuse from drivers. Of course my Mountain bike is not expensive and itīs really just for around this area. nice cycle path near me that leads into woods so itīs great.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 29, 2012, 03:24:42 AM
maybe just do 2 sets on each exercise Karen. 2 good sets are enough.

Legs (excluding calves) followed by 20 mins of treadmill

Barbell back squats x 4 sets  (kept it light but high reps at 20 per set)
SLD x 4 sets  (high reps again, moderate weight)
thigh extension machine x 4 sets

My quads were really feeling it during squats.  I haven't done any compound movements such as squats for months due to the fact that I had pretty bad asthma as a result of the sinus blockage and had little air getting down into my lungs.  This is probably my fav exercise for legs, so it was really good to do it again.  It made me happy anyway, which is what I needed.  With the combo of squats and SLD, my hamstrings were cramping up so I only did a short workout today.  I bumped into a couple of really good friends natty bb competitors and they gave me the prep talk that I needed to hear.  She said that my cortisol levels will be through the roof, which won't be helping and I already knew this.  Anyway it was good to hear this from friends which know me well and had a positive effect.  So I feel normal again.  I am just going to listen to my body and not push it too hard too soon... will do it gradually and not put pressure on myself. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 29, 2012, 03:28:14 AM
maybe just do 2 sets on each exercise Karen. 2 good sets are enough. Today i will get my bubble butt outside and will run at 6pm with a friend. He is a runner and i know it will hurt, sweat out the booze ;D before hand i will work legs(not a good idea if i run later but i will just have to) Today:

Dumbbell squats 4x15
Dumbbell stiff legged Deadlifts 4x15
Dumbbell lunges 3x10
one legged Dumbbell calf raise 5x12+

Ab crunches calves on a Bench 3x max

thatīs it very simple and i like Dumbbells too..higher reps.
I find that legs respond well to high reps Donny.  I like to do 30 reps per set for leg exercises to start with and as I increase weight, I still do high reps (25 ) but at the end of my sets (5th and 6th) I am doing max weight for 6-8 reps.  I go for the burn and just push past it...zone out. 
It's going to kill you though to train legs and then go for a run.  Good luck..haha 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2012, 05:38:14 AM
booty never commented on ur nose situation hope it gets better ur training still like nothings there but its frustrating i bet,,,yeah high reps/volume for me is what works,,i still squat heavy every few leg workouts for ego 6/8 rep set 405 brutal,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 29, 2012, 05:48:37 AM
booty never commented on ur nose situation hope it gets better ur training still like nothings there but its frustrating i bet,,,yeah high reps/volume for me is what works,,i still squat heavy every few leg workouts for ego 6/8 rep set 405 brutal,,,,
Thank you njflex and yes it's frustrating as hell.  I am very hard on myself which doesn't help.  Just got to take my own advice which I would dish out to others, that's all. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2012, 06:51:35 AM
once in a while i like to throw a pic or 2 here how i maintain a peak build at 44  :P....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 29, 2012, 07:13:34 AM
once in a while i like to throw a pic or 2 here how i maintain a peak build at 44  :P....
like the Tartan shorts... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2012, 07:16:17 AM
like the Tartan shorts... ;D
;D....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 29, 2012, 07:27:02 AM
i used have a pair of Tartan Y-fronts years ago... ;D well i have a couple hours rest untill i go for a run. Legs are OK.. would have went tomorrow but no time. Yes njflex a solid looking physique as always... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 29, 2012, 07:37:57 AM
You look pretty good flex - no homo. Thats about what I am shooting for this summer, except with more hair.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2012, 09:41:58 AM
i keep simple approach,,i like training for one,,i eat home cooked clean foods,,,rice brown,oats,greek yogurt,cooked chicken,fish,canned tuna as well,fruits everyday 3-4 services no matter what day/weekends,,i eat peanutbutter/olive oil for extra fats,,snacks could be low fat graham crackers or wheat crackers,or some low fat icecream if needed/wanted.train 4x per wk abs and calves done 2x everything else once ,,train with some volume depending body part larger 15/16 smaller 9/11,,,train smart in terms of weight but pretty heavy relative for me ,,example heavy weight on squats for me is 405 repped 8 zone,,,bent over rows 225/255 heaviest set,,hard to believe i do zero 'cardio'diet and fast intense training keeps me ripped...a little insight on my routine...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 29, 2012, 04:50:25 PM
Good Physquie njflex.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2012, 07:21:11 PM
Good Physquie njflex.
thank you booty,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 29, 2012, 07:56:42 PM
So my diet consists of plenty of salads especially in this hot weather.  I eat no red meat what so ever, but eat plenty of fish especially salmon and I eat alot of prawns (shrimp for yanks) and callamari.  Basically I eat any seafoods apart from octopus, that's the only thing I won't touch.  I eat alot of veges although not so much in this hot weather....save it more for winter.  Sweet potatoe really agrees with me as does rice.  I don't touch brown rice though as it makes me incredibly lethargic.  I love fruits, especially bananas because I can always carry one with me and eat where ever.  I will take a banana with me to the gym to eat afterwards.  I eat chicken and turkey but lately I have only eaten chicken once in the past two months for some reason.  Just been sticking to fish.  I drink as much water as I can during the day.  No soft drinks ever...the bubbles really upset my stomach lately and I am unable to drink anything with bubbles.  I used to drink an occasional pepsi max but due to the tummy upset, no longer do.  I gave up tea a while ago so the only caffeine I drink is two cups of coffee in the mornings with soy milk...no sugar.  I will drink a mocha on soy when out with my girlfriends though.  That's like a splurge.  I like oats for breakfast (save the horse jokes  :P) and I eat egg white omlettes either with mixed veges or just plain.  I like a slow release protein powder...bsn syntha6 is the one I use and have for the past 5 years.  I used to use a wpi but to be honest it's like water...it does nothing for hunger and I feel I get better results on a slow release one. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on December 29, 2012, 08:45:40 PM
LOOKING GREAT, NJ!!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2012, 09:05:37 PM
So my diet consists of plenty of salads especially in this hot weather.  I eat no red meat what so ever, but eat plenty of fish especially salmon and I eat alot of prawns (shrimp for yanks) and callamari.  Basically I eat any seafoods apart from octopus, that's the only thing I won't touch.  I eat alot of veges although not so much in this hot weather....save it more for winter.  Sweet potatoe really agrees with me as does rice.  I don't touch brown rice though as it makes me incredibly lethargic.  I love fruits, especially bananas because I can always carry one with me and eat where ever.  I will take a banana with me to the gym to eat afterwards.  I eat chicken and turkey but lately I have only eaten chicken once in the past two months for some reason.  Just been sticking to fish.  I drink as much water as I can during the day.  No soft drinks ever...the bubbles really upset my stomach lately and I am unable to drink anything with bubbles.  I used to drink an occasional pepsi max but due to the tummy upset, no longer do.  I gave up tea a while ago so the only caffeine I drink is two cups of coffee in the mornings with soy milk...no sugar.  I will drink a mocha on soy when out with my girlfriends though.  That's like a splurge.  I like oats for breakfast (save the horse jokes  :P) and I eat egg white omlettes either with mixed veges or just plain.  I like a slow release protein powder...bsn syntha6 is the one I use and have for the past 5 years.  I used to use a wpi but to be honest it's like water...it does nothing for hunger and I feel I get better results on a slow release one. 

nice,,,,after u mention it brown rice makes me tired too couldn't figure it out ,,,i eat it but sometimes it does that,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2012, 09:06:17 PM
LOOKING GREAT, NJ!!!!
thanx willie,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 29, 2012, 11:27:25 PM
....I eat alot of prawns (shrimp for yanks).... 


Just so you know, we also have prawns in the U.S. The main difference between shrimp and prawns is size. Prawns are larger. The other difference is price. Prawns are more expensive than shrimp.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 30, 2012, 01:29:34 AM
Just so you know, we also have prawns in the U.S. The main difference between shrimp and prawns is size. Prawns are larger. The other difference is price. Prawns are more expensive than shrimp.
Prime i hope some day i get an invite for dinner because you seem to like good food.. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 30, 2012, 06:13:05 AM
so today i will rest and get a good solid workout in tomorrow. Tonight a good walk and i will sleep well after lots of fresh air
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 30, 2012, 01:22:38 PM
Prime i hope some day i get an invite for dinner because you seem to like good food.. ;)

My wife and I do like to eat well. Years ago, my wife did catering on the side. We were both probably somewhat spoiled as kids with respect to the fact that our parents could afford to feed us well. The first eight years of my life, I lived with a variety of relatives all over the world. Because of this, I was exposed to a lot more foods then the average kid would be. Most 5 year olds don't travel to Europe on an ocean liner such as the SS Ile de France, sitting at the captain's table for meals because their grandmother and the captain are old friends and eating foods like turtle soup. My early exposure to a huge variety of foods resulted in my willingness to try almost anything once. There is very little that I don't like eating. 

I don't think my wife and I are food snobs though. Last night we had red beans and rice for dinner. The other night we had tuna noodle casserole. Sometimes we eat chicken pot pies from Costco. For breakfast today we had Eggo waffles.  So it isn't as if we eat sword fish, filet mignon or lobster all the time. However, we generally feed guests something a little fancier than tuna noodle casserole. LOL!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 30, 2012, 03:21:09 PM
mmmm food. We don`t go for the exotic here but something can be said for raising your own beef. When I have a steer butchered I get to decide on how thick I want my steaks, if you are a guest in my home a T-bone and inch and half thick will be put on your plate. Nothing like eating a nice steak that would set you back well over $100 in a premium steakhouse.
 I have a way of smoking them over hickory that makes for some of the finest steaks you have ever tasted.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 30, 2012, 06:00:02 PM
mmmm food. We don`t go for the exotic here but something can be said for raising your own beef. When I have a steer butchered I get to decide on how thick I want my steaks, if you are a guest in my home a T-bone and inch and half thick will be put on your plate. Nothing like eating a nice steak that would set you back well over $100 in a premium steakhouse.
 I have a way of smoking them over hickory that makes for some of the finest steaks you have ever tasted.

I lived on a cousin's farm when I was 7 years old. They butchered a young steer every year. No beef has ever compared to the what that beef. It was a dairy farm. The ice-cream we churned in the summer was out of this world. There was always fresh milk and butter too. Too bad my stay with them was cut short or I would probably have put on some size as a kid.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 31, 2012, 02:34:22 AM
first time i went to Canada i could not believe how big the steaks were..love a good steak.. Today i will train chest+back:

Flat Dumbbell press 3x superset with
Barbell rows 3x

Incline Barbell press 3x superset with
chin ups 3x
 
Barbell pullovers 2x superset with
Flat Dumbbell flys 2x

the last superset of BB pullovers and DB flyes should be intresting...  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 31, 2012, 02:49:21 AM
I was supose to train today, but the heavy rain has kept me from driving to the gym.   I don't want to get soaking wet and then train in air conditioning.  Plus I woke up with ear ache and pain behind my eyes due to the swelling in my nose...it still hasn't gone down from the other day.  I will be stepping out of my comfort zone tomorrow when I train and doing something different.  I will post up my programme when I train. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 31, 2012, 02:53:43 AM
I was supose to train today, but the heavy rain has kept me from driving to the gym.   I don't want to get soaking wet and then train in air conditioning.  Plus I woke up with ear ache and pain behind my eyes due to the swelling in my nose...it still hasn't gone down from the other day.  I will be stepping out of my comfort zone tomorrow when I train and doing something different.  I will post up my programme when I train.  
take it easy today. look after yourself. I will train and then see in the New Year itīs 11.52AM here now. My 2 sons are going out to partys and i will have a quite night at home. Did enough celebrating over Xmas...lol.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 31, 2012, 03:11:00 AM
take it easy today. look after yourself. I will train and then see in the New Year itīs 11.52AM here now. My 2 sons are going out to partys and i will have a quite night at home. Did enough celebrating over Xmas...lol.
Yes I will be training on new years day also Donny.  It's a good way to start off 2013.  I am having a quiet one also tonight.  I just heard the fire works go off, so they did decide to do them after all here.  But I couldn't see anything from my house and usually I can.  So I dare say the rain has played a role in that.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 31, 2012, 03:19:20 AM
yes i will watch then too here..itīs very mild outside and no snow. was a bit windy last night as i was walking but i like a fresh wind. I wish you all a great time for New year( we celebrate at diffrent times i know due to the time zones)..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 31, 2012, 05:29:52 PM
take it easy today. look after yourself. I will train and then see in the New Year itīs 11.52AM here now. My 2 sons are going out to partys and i will have a quite night at home. Did enough celebrating over Xmas...lol.

We are staying in tonight. Dinner is cheese fondue and salad with homemade cookies for desert. I cannot remember the last time we went out on New Year's Eve. What's the point? If you have a drink and your smart, you'll take a cab home. The police are always out in full force on New Year's. At least if your home, you don't have to worry about all the other crazy folks on the road and if you want a drink then so what?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 31, 2012, 09:10:50 PM
happy 2013 in jersey its 12:10 am,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 01, 2013, 03:06:03 AM
any sore heads on here...? ;D well i am sore today(my muscles) after my workout yesterday. The combination of BB pullovers and DB flyes was very hard. I knew it would be best to do this at the end. I used lighter weight on the flyes too because i wanted to keep good form... being careful on my shoulders.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 01, 2013, 04:44:43 AM
No alcohol for me Donny, so the only thing sore on me is my quads (still but almost recovered) and the tip of my nose (from swelling).  I didn't train today, just watched movies as I figured I would give my body and nose one more day of rest.  Happy New Year to all! 
All I have wanted all day is cheesecake, but couldn't find any place open for it.  I will get some this week when everything opens here again. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 01, 2013, 06:09:25 AM
No alcohol for me Donny, so the only thing sore on me is my quads (still but almost recovered) and the tip of my nose (from swelling).  I didn't train today, just watched movies as I figured I would give my body and nose one more day of rest.  Happy New Year to all! 
All I have wanted all day is cheesecake, but couldn't find any place open for it.  I will get some this week when everything opens here again. 
Cheesecake i love ! :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 01, 2013, 06:50:20 AM
No alcohol for me. I did get a big slice of cherry cheesecake last night and one cupcake, little cheat eating at a party but nothing more. Went to bed a 2:30, dogs let me sleep in til 8 and said thats enough, out of bed.  :D
 Lifted sunday, boxing and running yesterday, today when the rain lets up I want to take the dogs on a nice 3 mile walk up the mountain. I am considering starting to carry my backpack again, I used to load it with freeweights wrapped in towels and hike. You would be surprised how much just a 30lb pack can work your legs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 01, 2013, 07:08:19 AM
No alcohol for me. I did get a big slice of cherry cheesecake last night and one cupcake, little cheat eating at a party but nothing more. Went to bed a 2:30, dogs let me sleep in til 8 and said thats enough, out of bed.  :D
 Lifted sunday, boxing and running yesterday, today when the rain lets up I want to take the dogs on a nice 3 mile walk up the mountain. I am considering starting to carry my backpack again, I used to load it with freeweights wrapped in towels and hike. You would be surprised how much just a 30lb pack can work your legs.
Good post.. walking with a weighted rucksack is great. One thing i found intresting was in Steve Reeves Book "Building the Classic physique the Natural way" he said he devised a weight belt filled with shot that in his words..."the midsection is where the human body can naturally carry the most weight , just above the hip bones . so it is a perfect place to add weight in exercising". with this he advised hand weights.. i have always used a rucksack as you do and have never tried a belt. I have also thought about getting a weighted vest.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 01, 2013, 01:02:40 PM
Good post.. walking with a weighted rucksack is great. One thing i found intresting was in Steve Reeves Book "Building the Classic physique the Natural way" he said he devised a weight belt filled with shot that in his words..."the midsection is where the human body can naturally carry the most weight , just above the hip bones . so it is a perfect place to add weight in exercising". with this he advised hand weights.. i have always used a rucksack as you do and have never tried a belt. I have also thought about getting a weighted vest.

Steve Reeves also wrote that he built his calves delivering newspapers in a hilly area on a bicycle as a kid. In those days bikes had one speed (I know, I had one) so it was all leg work and he must have had to stand to pedal up those hills with a canvas newspaper bag filled with papers. I never had a paper route, but a friend did. I would help him deliver papers sometimes so he could get done quicker and we could do other stuff like ride to the beach. Apparently, I didn't do this often enough since my calves are weak.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 01, 2013, 01:28:50 PM
as a kid i did a paper round too as we called it. The boss was an ex Argyll Sgt Maj and i have to say i liked him. was a hard guy but sound as a pound. later i did a milk round ..we hung on the back of a milk wagon and jumped off with a crate of milk or 2 cariers with 6 in each (hand) run like hell and run door to door . I still believe to this day i found the Army fitness entrance run not easy but "ok" because of my activity.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 01, 2013, 01:49:36 PM
back today
chins x3 12/15 reps
tbar row wide grip chest to pad type
low cable row wide bar
bent over row last set 225 repped
reverse hammer pulldown single arm

weighted hypers

bi's
straight bar curls
concentration curls
scott curl machine
2 set finish alt db curls 12 rep sets

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 01, 2013, 02:05:31 PM
back today
chins x3 12/15 reps
tbar row wide grip chest to pad type
low cable row wide bar
bent over row last set 225 repped
reverse hammer pulldown single arm

weighted hypers

bi's
straight bar curls
concentration curls
scott curl machine
2 set finish alt db curls 12 rep sets

abs
consistant and hard as always !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 01, 2013, 03:23:17 PM
Everyone has eaten cheesecake except for me.   I am over the craving now. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 01, 2013, 04:16:06 PM
Everyone has eaten cheesecake except for me.   I am over the craving now. 
i want some... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 01, 2013, 05:42:18 PM
i want some... ;D
Enjoy then.  I won't be...have decided I have a six pack of hard rock abs to compete with. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 01, 2013, 06:06:44 PM
booty do u like key lime cheescake....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 01, 2013, 06:29:58 PM
booty do u like key lime cheescake....
Yes I do. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 02, 2013, 04:58:16 AM
so today i will train legs:

pre-exhaust supersets:

leg extensions 3x15
Front Squats   3x15

Leg curls 3x15
stiff legged deads 3x15
 
Jumping rope with
standind one legged calf raises 3x 15( will maybe go over 15 reps and then partial reps to failure)

Abs.. Double crunches 2x 50 superset with  lying leg raises max reps.. i will enjoy the pain  ;)

so there we have it very simple and the front squats will stimulate my front quads a bit diffrent. A fast moving workout to get me sweating.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 02, 2013, 05:39:42 AM
so today i will train legs:

pre-exhaust supersets:

leg extensions 3x15
Front Squats   3x15

Leg curls 3x15
stiff legged deads 3x15
 
Jumping rope with
standind one legged calf raises 3x 15( will maybe go over 15 reps and then partial reps to failure)

Abs.. Double crunches 2x 50 superset with  lying leg raises max reps.. i will enjoy the pain  ;)

so there we have it very simple and the front squats will stimulate my front quads a bit diffrent. A fast moving workout to get me sweating.

NICE,,,,I'VE DONE THOSE TYPE WORKOUTS PUMP IS EXCRUCIATING,,,LEGS RESPOND TO HIGHER REPS I THINK,,HEAVY LOAD WORKOUTS LOW TO MID REP SQUATS AND LEG PRESSES HAVE THERE PLACE,,BUT VOLUME /HI REP 12-15 IS THE BEST ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 02, 2013, 06:48:06 AM
Anyone setting goals for this year? For me I am going to keep it pretty simple, stay healthy and hang with a steady routine. I already know work is going to be a ball buster this year so my aim is consitency, slow steady progress. I have some numbers I would like to reach of course but staying with the workouts when work gets busy will probably be the biggest challenge.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 02, 2013, 09:32:36 AM
Anyone setting goals for this year? For me I am going to keep it pretty simple, stay healthy and hang with a steady routine. I already know work is going to be a ball buster this year so my aim is consitency, slow steady progress. I have some numbers I would like to reach of course but staying with the workouts when work gets busy will probably be the biggest challenge.
A good post. maybe you can do an abbreviated routine when your very busy and will keep you "ticking over". when iīm very busy i do this and just concentrate on the important basic exercises. My goals are really pretty much the same as yours...i think a good goal is to try to be positive and keep healthy. Funny i met an old friend the other day who i have not seen for 9/10 years and he said iīm quieter.. :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 02, 2013, 12:55:11 PM
Anyone setting goals for this year? For me I am going to keep it pretty simple, stay healthy and hang with a steady routine. I already know work is going to be a ball buster this year so my aim is consitency, slow steady progress. I have some numbers I would like to reach of course but staying with the workouts when work gets busy will probably be the biggest challenge.

If you mean like making resolutions, then no. I don't believe in that. However, I do expect to get back into good exercise routine, which I have fallen away from in the past year. I am also going to try to keep it simple and not become obsessed with working out, like I've sometimes done in the past. At the grand old age of 68 with friends and family dropping like flies, I've concluded that variety is the spice of life. I will make every effort to live life to its fullest each and every day because one never knows which day will be their last one.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 02, 2013, 01:29:03 PM
If you mean like making resolutions, then no. I don't believe in that. However, I do expect to get back into good exercise routine, which I havefallen away from in the past year. I am also going to try to keep it simple and not become obsessed with working out, like I've sometimes done in the past. At the grand old age of 68 with friends and family dropping like flies, I've concluded that variety is the spice of life. I will make every effort to live life to its fullest each and every day because one never knows which day will be their last one.
prime...you will i am sure be around for a long Time  yet
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 02, 2013, 06:05:58 PM
prime...you will i am sure be around for a long Time  yet

Not to be melodramatic or anything, but some days I would agree with you and sometimes I feel very old and tired.

Today, I found out that a cousin of mine just died a few days ago in his sleep. Armand was just 71 years old, two and a half years older than me. He was a farmer in the Midwest and he was hardy fellow. When I was a kid of seven and lived with these cousins, he was like my big brother. This part of my family are hardy people who live good clean uncomplicated lives for the most part. They should out live the rest of us.

Three days ago, a good friend's husband, who is younger than I am, fell and fractured his skull among other injuries. He was put on a permanent feeding tube today as well as other life support since he cannot breath on his own. Frankly, it doesn't look good for him.

A long time ago, a friend and fellow bodybuilder (actually he got me started bodybuilding) complained to me that you really start to realize how mortal you are when your contemporaries start dying. Well guess what? My contemporaries have been dying for some time now.

The weather was beautiful today as I drove around running errands. The sun was out and the air was crisp. I had my two puppies in the car with me. It was one of those days when you just want to live forever....but sadly, that isn't possible.
 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 02, 2013, 07:51:43 PM
Not to be melodramatic or anything, but some days I would agree with you and sometimes I feel very old and tired.

Today, I found out that a cousin of mine just died a few days ago in his sleep. Armand was just 71 years old, two and a half years older than me. He was a farmer in the Midwest and he was hardy fellow. When I was a kid of seven and lived with these cousins, he was like my big brother. This part of my family are hardy people who live good clean uncomplicated lives for the most part. They should out live the rest of us.

Three days ago, a good friend's husband, who is younger than I am, fell and fractured his skull among other injuries. He was put on a permanent feeding tube today as well as other life support since he cannot breath on his own. Frankly, it doesn't look good for him.

A long time ago, a friend and fellow bodybuilder (actually he got me started bodybuilding) complained to me that you really start to realize how mortal you are when your contemporaries start dying. Well guess what? My contemporaries have been dying for some time now.

The weather was beautiful today as I drove around running errands. The sun was out and the air was crisp. I had my two puppies in the car with me. It was one of those days when you just want to live forever....but sadly, that isn't possible.
 
tough news,,,but your health is still ok considering prime,,,and think u never know you could go 10 20 more yrs to late 80's 90 like nothing,,,but yeah time passes very fast :-\,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 03, 2013, 01:15:03 AM
so Today i wanted to use my bike and not my car..but itīs raining heavy today :(. Maybe tonight when iīm home it will be ok to go for a run or walk...how are you feeling today Karen?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 03, 2013, 01:29:44 AM
so Today i wanted to use my bike and not my car..but itīs raining heavy today :(. Maybe tonight when iīm home it will be ok to go for a run or walk...how are you feeling today Karen?
I haven't exercised in 3 days so am feeling very frustrated.  I am off to gym with a taped nose. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 03, 2013, 02:35:23 AM
Cheer up Karen  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 03, 2013, 03:49:52 AM
Cheer up Karen  ;)
Easier said than done.   30 mins treadmill....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 03, 2013, 03:50:44 AM
Easier said than done.   30 mins treadmill....
proud of you Girl... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 03, 2013, 04:02:03 AM
proud of you Girl... ;D
Haha thanks   ;D  I will tape my nose tonight before bed so that no swelling will occur and then tomorrow I will do the programme that I have.  I did notice that I got no additional swelling from my cardio with my nose taped so that is a good thing. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 03, 2013, 11:17:06 AM
tonight i went for an hour walk, was raining a bit but was very refreshing. Finished off with some Abs at home.. Basic crunches on the floor(feet flat on floor) 3 sets to failure and some twisting.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 03, 2013, 11:34:16 AM
Had a good hike [light pack] yesterday, today was lifting. Bench, bb rows, curls and since the sun was out I carried the bar outside and did 3 sets of clean and press. Nice to be out in the sun. Followed that with a 20 min ride on the mountain bike for legs. For some reason my legs REALLY respond to that bike.
 Tomorrow is run and heavy bag.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 03, 2013, 06:08:11 PM
There was less swelling in my nose when I woke after a night of having it taped.  I am not sure if I am taping it correctly but since I have an appointment tomorrow with a surgeon he can tell me if it's right.  I will do my programme today and write it up afterwards. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 03, 2013, 06:52:39 PM
On Saturday, we are having a big birthday party for my wife. Her sister and her husband are coming down from Seattle to put the party on at our house. So once again, my exercise has been to spend time in the yard making it perfect. My wife's sister is a master gardener. Just a little more to go and I'll have all the fall/winter clean-up done.

I was going to hit the gym on Wednesday, but I got caught up doing a bunch of errands and it was too late by the time I got home. That is probably okay since all the folks who made New Year's resolutions to get fit were probably crowding the gym. It is looking like next week is the week where I have no more excuses and I will be in the gym getting myself fit as a fiddle.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 03, 2013, 09:39:59 PM
So I took this programme out of Kranks training journal.  My times will be terrible but you have to start somewhere.  I didn't get all the reps for pushups...just couldn't do 21 reps so I did what I could.  My nose was throbbing afterwards where the incision was made which is between my nostrils.  Got a bit of mucus buildup as well.  


Pushing:  Push press, dips, pushups

reps 21 for each, then 15 reps for each and then 9 for each.

time:  8.30 mins 72 secs

Pull:  Pullups, curls  ( I did assisted pullup machine)

reps, same above  21,15,9

time:  6.22 mins 50 secs

I am going to go brisk walking outdoors later at around 6pm when the sun isn't as strong.  Will walk for one hour.  I just want that mental relaxation which walking gives me.

Edit:  I decided to not go brisk walking as my shoulders feel heavy and my body feels tired after that workout.  It's setting in.  Plus my nose is very blocked.  I will be in the kitchen instead making a nice spinach salad, potatoe bake and salmon.   :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 03, 2013, 11:15:44 PM
I am going to take another programme from Kranks journal tomorrow.  I like that one where you do barbell back squats and then do a set of back extensions and repeat.  I know I would like this one. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 04, 2013, 12:04:30 AM
I'm a little over half the requisite age to participate in this thread; when should I go on PEDs?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 04, 2013, 01:15:32 AM
I'm a little over half the requisite age to participate in this thread; when should I go on PEDs?
How old are you because this thread is for anybody over 40 and there is a range of ages on here. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 04, 2013, 02:22:16 AM
I am going to take another programme from Kranks journal tomorrow.  I like that one where you do barbell back squats and then do a set of back extensions and repeat.  I know I would like this one.  
yes why not karen.. who said anyone hast to train in a certain way? results are what matters. some great workouts on here from everyone. Itīs great to see this area of the Forum come alive on other threads too.
Had a good hike [light pack] yesterday, today was lifting. Bench, bb rows, curls and since the sun was out I carried the bar outside and did 3 sets of clean and press. Nice to be out in the sun. Followed that with a 20 min ride on the mountain bike for legs. For some reason my legs REALLY respond to that bike.
 Tomorrow is run and heavy bag.
i like the workout basic and outdoor too. clean and press i think i will do today in my shoulder and arm workout :) some great variety in workouts here from you all..good ideas for me too ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 04, 2013, 02:25:19 AM
yes why not karen.. who said anyone hast to train in a certain way? results are what matters. some great workouts on here from everyone. Itīs great to see this area of the Forum come alive on other threads too. i like the workout basic and outdoor too. clean and press i think i will do today in my shoulder and arm workout :) some great variety in workouts here from you all..good ideas for me too ;)
Yes it's good to mix it up and we can learn from each other.   :) 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 04, 2013, 02:25:28 AM
On Saturday, we are having a big birthday party for my wife. Her sister and her husband are coming down from Seattle to put the party on at our house. So once again, my exercise has been to spend time in the yard making it perfect. My wife's sister is a master gardener. Just a little more to go and I'll have all the fall/winter clean-up done.

I was going to hit the gym on Wednesday, but I got caught up doing a bunch of errands and it was too late by the time I got home. That is probably okay since all the folks who made New Year's resolutions to get fit were probably crowding the gym. It is looking like next week is the week where I have no more excuses and I will be in the gym getting myself fit as a fiddle.
I think its great that you keep busy prime..you are very much in demand by the sounds of it !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 04, 2013, 02:26:41 AM
Yes it's good to mix it up and we can learn from each other.   :) 
yes thatīs the idea to motivate each other and learn from each other...well put Karen.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 04, 2013, 02:29:26 AM
How old are you because this thread is for anybody over 40 and there is a range of ages on here. 

62.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 04, 2013, 03:00:39 AM
62.
Welcome to the mature bunch.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 04, 2013, 03:36:15 AM
My nose is suffering tonight.  I have alot of mucus where I am constantly blowing my nose and it's so swollen and tender on the knob.  I think that's what you call the end of the nose...the button bit?  Anyway I am seeing a surgeon tomorrow and he will check that I am healing properly.  Apparently he's going to have a good look in my nose. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 04, 2013, 03:53:15 AM
My nose is suffering tonight.  I have alot of mucus where I am constantly blowing my nose and it's so swollen and tender on the knob.  I think that's what you call the end of the nose...the button bit?  Anyway I am seeing a surgeon tomorrow and he will check that I am healing properly.  Apparently he's going to have a good look in my nose. 
never had anyone look up my nose before..aparantly i snore quite loud... :) so workout today:
Shoulders are a Triset:

Clean and press 4x10
sde laterals       4x12
bent over laterals 4x12

Incline DB curls  3x8-10
Barbell reverse curls 3x 10+
Dumbbell wrist curls 3x10+

pull over and press 3x10
lying extensions Hammer grip Dumbbells 3x10

only two exercises for Triceps due to shoulder press.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 04, 2013, 04:33:01 AM
never had anyone look up my nose before..aparantly i snore quite loud... :) so workout today:
Shoulders are a Triset:

Clean and press 4x10
sde laterals       4x12
bent over laterals 4x12

Incline DB curls  3x8-10
Barbell reverse curls 3x 10+
Dumbbell wrist curls 3x10+

pull over and press 3x10
lying extensions Hammer grip Dumbbells 3x10

only two exercises for Triceps due to shoulder press.

Well they put this camera up there and it goes all the way up.  It's a bit of a weird feeling to have something that far up inside your nose.
Good programme Donny.  I haven't done incline db curls in forever so I will be adding them into my programme next time I train arms. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 04, 2013, 04:41:19 AM
Welcome to the mature bunch.  

Thanks, now tell me where I can get some PEDs for my ancient ass.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 04, 2013, 04:46:48 AM
Thanks, not tell me where I can get some PEDs for my ancient ass.
I have no idea.  Maybe you should go and see your doctor and get a script. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 04, 2013, 05:11:32 AM
I have no idea.  Maybe you should go and see your doctor and get a script. 

Tell meh where dem dere PEDs are before I get cranky.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 04, 2013, 05:31:30 AM
Ya gotta do the centrum silver, prune juice and ensure combo. available at wongmart.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 04, 2013, 05:48:08 AM
Ya gotta do the centrum silver, prune juice and ensure combo. available at wongmart.

How much muscle can I expect to gain my first cycle of this stack?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 04, 2013, 06:14:56 AM
You should be powerful enough to quit having to park in the handicap spots in no time.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 04, 2013, 07:05:24 AM
You should be powerful enough to quit having to park in the handicap spots in no time.  ;D
  ;D nice answer..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 04, 2013, 09:26:35 AM
Clean and press worked well today in my shoulder tri set ..really felt it burn and I think doing inline dumbbell curl worked well because with barbell curls it would have been hard..because the front delts do come into play with bb curls. Good stretch and better isolation with incline db curls
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 04, 2013, 10:35:06 AM
Tell meh where dem dere PEDs are before I get cranky.

By PEDs, do you mean Viagra? I mean, you did say you were 62 years old.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 04, 2013, 04:25:43 PM
You should be powerful enough to quit having to park in the handicap spots in no time.  ;D

Thanks bra.

By PEDs, do you mean Viagra? I mean, you did say you were 62 years old.

Yes, Cialis or Viagra may comprise part of my 'PED package' as a 62 year old man.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 02:29:51 AM
Anyway lets get back on topic.. Today i will do a bit of rope jumping and some Abs.  Maybe i will throw in some burpees in there and star jumps to get me really working. Itīs raining hard again so i think a bike ride is out and running/walking.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 05:45:30 AM
Tell meh where dem dere PEDs are before I get cranky.
You need a muzzle..now zip it. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 05, 2013, 06:09:11 AM
You need a muzzle..now zip it. 

Sorry, being 62 with rapidly declining test levels and no PEDs has me on edge. Here, let us defuse the tension: come sit on my lap and we'll talk about the first thing that pops up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 06:15:38 AM
Sorry, being 62 with rapidly declining test levels and no PEDs has me on edge. Here, let us defuse the tension: come sit on my lap and we'll talk about the first thing that pops up.
This is a serious training thread.  If you are not here to discuss and share with us your training and diet, then you will be ignored.  We are too mature for any kind of trolling.   ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 06:18:21 AM
Sorry, being 62 with rapidly declining test levels and no PEDs has me on edge. Here, let us defuse the tension: come sit on my lap and we'll talk about the first thing that pops up.
you know this was a funny joke when i was a kid in school. If you used it now you really are a clown. Clearly you have nothing constructive to say Son so do us a favour .. go play with the kids on the other threads for this sort of thing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 06:20:37 AM
This is a serious training thread.  If you are not here to discuss and share with us your training and diet, then you will be ignored.  We are too mature for any kind of trolling.   ;)

he is not even funny..why is he making a fool of himself?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 06:22:49 AM
he is not even funny..why is he making a fool of himself?
Have no idea Donny but one thing is for sure..he is not a mature man.  I would guess his age to be around 18 years of age.  Maybe 21 at best. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 06:26:34 AM
Have no idea Donny but one thing is for sure..he is not a mature man.  I would guess his age to be around 18 years of age.  Maybe 21 at best. 
no not 21.. really a clown. really i heard that joke he made in 1975/76. Embarrassed for the Guy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on January 05, 2013, 06:27:32 AM
This is a serious training thread.  If you are not here to discuss and share with us your training and diet, then you will be ignored.  We are too mature for any kind of trolling.   ;)


there's been more off topic discussion in this thread than you want to admit , all down to YOU

don't make rules you can't keep
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 06:32:41 AM
there's been more off topic discussion in this thread than you want to admit , all down to YOU

don't make rules you can't keep
not really because she spoke about the injury and how it effected her training and motivation. Not the same as coming on here and writing stupid jokes. Itīs a fact of life that injuries can happen and effect training. I think itīs good to learn and find out how others deal with it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on January 05, 2013, 06:35:25 AM
not really because she spoke about the injury and how it effected her training and motivation. Not the same as coming on here and writing stupid jokes. Itīs a fact of life that injuries can happen and effect training. I think itīs good to learn and find out how others deal with it.

elective rhinoplasty is not a training injury Donny it's not an injury at all ::)

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 06:36:49 AM
survived holidays,,,if u saw what i ate few meals u be like 'steve'my real name i can't believe ur eating cookies,lot of pasta due to family'italian'but for most part kept same training days,workouts,calories/meals lol,,i'm boring,,,'donny/booty'what would u guestimate my bf pct by eye ,,,8~10 zone..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 06:38:54 AM
all i can say is you have good taste in shorts... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 06:40:09 AM
all i can say is you have good taste in shorts... ;D
there actually sweats lol,,,,,u follow american football?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 06:42:26 AM
there actually sweats lol,,,,,u follow american football?
no i do not know anything about it. Looks like a hard sport. so what is your BF ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 06:43:03 AM
not really because she spoke about the injury and how it effected her training and motivation. Not the same as coming on here and writing stupid jokes. Itīs a fact of life that injuries can happen and effect training. I think itīs good to learn and find out how others deal with it.
Yes, my surgery is affecting my training and is something that I have to take into consideration when training.  I wish I had this information prior to my operation, as I would have been more prepared on what to expect.  Unfortunately I have had to learn it all on my own and from my own experience.  For example I found out that the drainage system in the nose doesn't start working until 6 months after surgery which is why I am having a big issue with swelling.  And as I am suffering from swelling at the moment, it is causing ear aches and a terrible pressure on the bridge of my nose.  I recommend for anybody who has this surgery to tape their nose prior to exercise and before bed, as anything which raises the bp will cause you to swell.  It's something I am going to have to train around as I will have it for quite a while.  It is a highly invasive surgery with a long recovery and if the surgeon breaks any bones which in my case he did, then it doubles or triples the time the swelling goes down.  That is what I learned today from my surgeons appointment.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 06:43:25 AM
elective rhinoplasty is not a training injury Donny it's not an injury at all ::)


well she has good vibe,positive and she's liked here,,so little extra tidbits are good as well,,,and she's trained through it,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 06:47:18 AM
all i can say is you have good taste in shorts... ;D
They're not boxers?  I thought they looked like underwear.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 06:47:44 AM
no i do not know anything about it. Looks like a hard sport. so what is your BF ?
never checked i mean you love classic bbing like me ,lean with as much muscle u could build and or frame handle is key like zane our inspiration,,,u have good eye what do u think?for someone who dosen't compete anymore'me'i would say this is pretty much as i want to be at other than a tweaking in the summer..i do zero cardio to achieve this,,all diet and good balanced hard training,,,i do it drug free no less lol,,,i did cycle a bit when i was young...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 06:49:39 AM
They're not boxers?  I thought they looked like underwear.   ;D
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these are boxers underwear lol,,,turning into mature wardrobe thread,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 06:50:08 AM
never checked i mean you love classic bbing like me ,lean with as much muscle u could build and or frame handle is key like zane our inspiration,,,u have good eye what do u think?for someone who dosen't compete anymore'me'i would say this is pretty much as i want to be at other than a tweaking in the summer..i do zero cardio to achieve this,,all diet and good balanced hard training,,,i do it drug free no less lol,,,i did cycle a bit when i was young...
I would not lose any more weight because you look Healthy...i really am not sure but i would think about 10% ?? no doubt i am wrong ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 06:51:59 AM
They're not boxers?  I thought they looked like underwear.   ;D
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these are boxers underwear lol,,,turning into mature wardrobe thread,,,



Okay I have been corrected.   ;D  I can't tell whats what, lately.   :-[
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on January 05, 2013, 06:55:03 AM
well she has good vibe,positive and she's liked here,,so little extra tidbits are good as well,,,and she's trained through it,,,,

BAH , take a poll
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 06:58:45 AM
I would not lose any more weight because you look Healthy...i really am not sure but i would think about 10% ?? no doubt i am wrong ;D
i agree just enough size /hardness/cuts,,,my legs which unless contest shape never were this lean at this bodyweight 185/190 i needed to be
170ish on stage to have legs like this now,,,i have stated here many times lunges heavy/walking or stairs version really bring in legs,,,and the heavy squats and hi rep leg presses help too,,,i would say closer to 8pct if i would guess but 10 is great ,,i need 'galineko'to assess lol,,,donny
thanx for all the positive posts ...we train for lot of reasons and look wise show our builds to our best ,,little ego and self praise is there too  ;D,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 07:02:43 AM
Is it a goal of yours to compete Njflex?  Masters maybe? 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on January 05, 2013, 07:04:23 AM
survived holidays,,,if u saw what i ate few meals u be like 'steve'my real name i can't believe ur eating cookies,lot of pasta due to family'italian'but for most part kept same training days,workouts,calories/meals lol,,i'm boring,,,'donny/booty'what would u guestimate my bf pct by eye ,,,8~10 zone..

you do shrugs ?

curls ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 05, 2013, 07:04:38 AM
Stayed with my exercise all week but a couple of family gatherings crushed the diet, had a giant bacon cheeseburger yesterday that was so good.  :D Just gonna walk today, lift tomorrow and boxing class starts back up Monday night.
 All in all did decent through the holidays, didn`t gain any weight, didn`t lose, and managed to keep my workout schedule.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 07:10:33 AM
you do shrugs ?

curls ?
need em bigger?just one pose is what it is,,,actually quite strong in both,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 07:13:52 AM
Stayed with my exercise all week but a couple of family gatherings crushed the diet, had a giant bacon cheeseburger yesterday that was so good.  :D Just gonna walk today, lift tomorrow and boxing class starts back up Monday night.
 All in all did decent through the holidays, didn`t gain any weight, didn`t lose, and managed to keep my workout schedule.
your doing great. walking is a great form of exercise. Good enough for Steve reeves, good enough for us !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 07:14:11 AM
Is it a goal of yours to compete Njflex?  Masters maybe? 
considered it,,,guy who dieted me yrs ago saw me he just did pro master's show nobody famous but good build for 52 ,,he could'nt believe i have maintained build so long ,,never know,,,need to practice posing and diet bit more....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on January 05, 2013, 07:15:39 AM
need em bigger?just one pose is what it is,,,actually quite strong in both,,,

jmo

more development definition would look better on you

like you said it was just one photo
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 07:24:44 AM
yeah traps could be a bit bigger ,,,bi's have shape ,,,side chest arms decent...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on January 05, 2013, 07:27:59 AM
yeah traps could be a bit bigger ,,,bi's have shape ,,,side chest arms decent...

I concur
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 07:28:37 AM
your doing great. walking is a great form of exercise. Good enough for Steve reeves, good enough for us !
Agreed, if you can stick to your training over christmas and new years holidays then you are doing great.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 07:30:11 AM
considered it,,,guy who dieted me yrs ago saw me he just did pro master's show nobody famous but good build for 52 ,,he could'nt believe i have maintained build so long ,,never know,,,need to practice posing and diet bit more....
I think you should go for it.  Posing...you are already doing and will need more practice but it will come and you already have the discipline when it comes to training and eating a well balanced clean diet. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 07:32:32 AM
I concur
lulu whether ur guy/girl input is welcome,,,i am not perfect ,,alway's go gym with one motivation to improve,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 05, 2013, 07:45:40 AM
flex you should go for it if its something you want to do, never know how many chances you will get.
 booty I hope you get to feeling better soon.

 Donny, I have found one of the things that help me the most with my mind is walking. Its a form of meditation for me, a nice long quiet walk helps me clear my mind and sharpen my focus.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 07:50:34 AM
flex you should go for it if its something you want to do, never know how many chances you will get.
 booty I hope you get to feeling better soon.

 Donny, I have found one of the things that help me the most with my mind is walking. Its a form of meditation for me, a nice long quiet walk helps me clear my mind and sharpen my focus.
thanxs horspwer,,,words/post noted,,,,never know just need to get into next mindset for 'show'i am there 90pct other 10pct is big factor no turning back i competed 3 times in 90's was in incredible shape all 3,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on January 05, 2013, 08:21:12 AM
lulu whether ur guy/girl input is welcome,,,i am not perfect ,,alway's go gym with one motivation to improve,,,

improve=key

I was just mentioning what I saw from the photo and meant no insult , traps are part of a protocol to some not everyone , that was my question and forearms are hard to build up 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 08:35:46 AM
improve=key

I was just mentioning what I saw from the photo and meant no insult , traps are part of a protocol to some not everyone , that was my question and forearms are hard to build up 

none taken ,,,i do train all bodyparts hard ,,,i try to train different angles and different rep/weight protocals esp traps some pics they look different fuller,,,calves and forearms i have grown and again depending on pic inner forearms i have grown ,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 09:58:41 AM
massive forearms  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 05, 2013, 04:57:49 PM
In my opening post I indicated I was a little over 20:

Upon which you asked for my age, completely unawares. At that point I thought it'd be funny to immediately contradict myself and say I was 62. And it was funny (to me, my sole audience for my attempts at humor).

Goodbye, old persons.

In this post, you seem a little bitter. Sorry if any of us old persons offended you, but you did seem to come on a bit strong, in my opinion. Anyway, maturity is not so much about age as it is about attitude. I've know old persons who were not particularly mature and I know young people who are surprisingly mature acting.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 05:05:53 PM
leg day kiddo's...
hack squat warm up 2 plates per side,then 3,4,5,5.5 sick pump..
extensions 2nd lil different than usual worked up to 250 lbs on stack all sets over 10 reps
walking lunges 50 lb dumbel 12/15 steps per leg up gym floor
finished 3 sets leg presses 5 plates per side then  6 plates per side 2 sets reps 12,12,10

hamstrings
stiff legged deadlift dumbell 60,70,80's reps all over or close to 12
leg curls 10 rep sets x3 155 lb on stack

calves seated calf raise
3 plates 20
3.5 plates 15
4 plates 10
4 plates 10
3 plates 15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 07:34:25 PM
flex you should go for it if its something you want to do, never know how many chances you will get.
 booty I hope you get to feeling better soon.

 Donny, I have found one of the things that help me the most with my mind is walking. Its a form of meditation for me, a nice long quiet walk helps me clear my mind and sharpen my focus.
Thank you, I am feeling better today actually...less swelling and the ear ache has gone as well as the terrible pressure I had on the bridge of my nose. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 08:10:59 PM
 >:(,,,cmon not cool,hope removed,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 08:13:11 PM
>:(,,,cmon not cool,hope removed,,
What do you mean njflex? 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 08:15:14 PM
What do you mean njflex? 
;),,, :D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 08:16:34 PM
;),,, :D...
I think it went right over my head cause I am not getting the joke. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 08:21:53 PM
Okay so my plan is to do some form of exercise every single day, whether it is cardio or weights.  I won't exert myself to the point where I swell up and then end up taking 2-3 days off completely.  That just defeats the purpose.  I want to make progress everyday.  I will have to train abs on separate days rather than at the end of other bodyparts, since it appears to be a real issue in off setting terrible swelling and mucus buildup.   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 05, 2013, 09:07:21 PM
I tried the do something everyday routine, my body gets irritable with me eventually and stuff starts to go bad. I thought if I just used sheer will power I could overcome, that approach worked for me when I was in my twenties.
 I`m doing 2 days on, one day off, 2 days on 2 days off. Off days are restricted to walking, stretching, bicycle etc. My body needs that time to recover.  Maybe if I had access to some type of PED things would be different.
 Diet is even more important now than it ever used to be.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 05, 2013, 11:49:46 PM
none taken ,,,i do train all bodyparts hard ,,,i try to train different angles and different rep/weight protocals esp traps some pics they look different fuller,,,calves and forearms i have grown and again depending on pic inner forearms i have grown ,,,

Seeing the photos of your forearms has raised my curiosity as to your statute and here is why, my forearms are skinny. They measure something like 12".  I have done every imaginable forearm exercise with not much success. The same is true for my calves, which top out at about 16". My arms are unusually long. I have a 36" sleeve length. Considering that I am 5'11" on tiptoes, this means I am built a little like an ape. Furthermore, my inseam is much shorter at 31", so I am really ape like. Do you have shorter limbs? I have noticed that guys who have a stockier build from a bone structure standpoint often have more developed calves and forearms.

Genetically speaking, I have an ectomorphic body. My parents were both tall and very skinny. Truth be told, this is what got me started bodybuilding. I didn't like being a string bean. The good news is that as a senior citizen, things have balanced out. Between all the years of lifting weights and, yes, using ABS at times I filled out some. However, I still tend to revert to the slim guy I started out being....well maybe not quite as slim as I once was. Hint, I no longer fit into 29" Levi 501's. LOL!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 06, 2013, 01:02:37 AM
85 mins brisk walk outdoors.  I find I can always walk for longer outdoors than on a treadmill at the gym, which is probably the same for most people.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 06, 2013, 01:41:59 AM
85 mins brisk walk outdoors.  I find I can always walk for longer outdoors than on a treadmill, which is probably the same for most people. 

Treadmills are a bore, especially the one at home. At least at the gym you can look around the room and there are other folks walking or running along side you for inspiration. At home the only advantage is that I can run naked on the treadmill if I want....don't think that would go over too well at the gym though.  ;D

You have the advantage of good weather where you are. I would have to bundle up in so many clothes right now to go for a long walk, it wouldn't be that much fun. It is really hard to want to go for a walk when it is pouring rain out. Even the dogs don't seem that interested. When the weather is better, I take the dogs down by the river. The paths at the park to the river are mostly paved. Coming back up the path to the main part of the park really gets my breathing going and heart rate up, since it is a long uphill walk. On the other hand, walking around the neighborhood gives me the choice of going uphill at the beginning of the walk or at the end since I live at the 500 foot elevation marker. The top of the hill is 800 ft. and the bottom is probably around 200 ft. above sea level. So either way there is a good opportunity for a good workout walk.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2013, 01:51:44 AM
yes i agree with the posts here about walking. you can when out walking really have time out to clear your head. Walking really works the glutes very well too. Depends on my motivation and if i have slept well i will break it up too like a sort of interval training..run/walk. I go through periods where i just run but when i do building new muscle is hard. I find walking better if you goal is to build some size. I do also like my rope jumping in between to elevate my heart rate. I always jump rope to warm up when weight training and even between sets! I see njflex you do Dumbbell stiff deads too, i like them more than a bar and leg curls. I normally do my leg curls first then stiff deads..mainly superset.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 06, 2013, 03:33:15 AM
I would love a treadmill at home.  I would just watch tv or listen to music.  And before anybody tells me I would never use it, I would.  I stayed with a friend in melbourne years ago and she had a treadmill.  I would get up every morning and walk on it for an hour..I never missed a day and I stayed with her for a month.  So I know I would definitley get good use out of one.  I just get bored walking on a treadmill at the gym. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2013, 04:03:26 AM
I would love One too. I had some years ago an exercise bike . Was a good workout too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 06, 2013, 04:07:55 AM
I would love One too. I had some years ago an exercise bike . Was a good workout too.
I can't walk here at night as too dangerous and then there's the heat factor.  If I want to walk in the mornings then it has to be 5am, as by 6.30am the sun is too hot.  Then at night it's around 5.30pm until 7pm, when the sun goes down.  If I had a treadmill I could do it anytime...it would so awesome.  Oh I forgot to mention the rains.  In summer we can get up to 3 months of heavy tropical rains and storms so again you can't walk outside. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 06, 2013, 04:09:19 AM
leg day kiddo's...
hack squat warm up 2 plates per side,then 3,4,5,5.5 sick pump..
extensions 2nd lil different than usual worked up to 250 lbs on stack all sets over 10 reps
walking lunges 50 lb dumbel 12/15 steps per leg up gym floor
finished 3 sets leg presses 5 plates per side then  6 plates per side 2 sets reps 12,12,10

hamstrings
stiff legged deadlift dumbell 60,70,80's reps all over or close to 12
leg curls 10 rep sets x3 155 lb on stack

calves seated calf raise
3 plates 20
3.5 plates 15
4 plates 10
4 plates 10
3 plates 15

Very good leg workout.  Love how you call us kiddos. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2013, 06:02:14 AM
njflex do you like seated calf raises better than standing? i have to admit when i do seated with a Barbell i feel it more than standing...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2013, 07:55:32 AM
njflex do you like seated calf raises better than standing? i have to admit when i do seated with a Barbell i feel it more than standing...
both i mix it up 2x per wk lots of sets and reps,,,heavy weight controlled tho ,,i never bounce rep,,,i do leg press extensions too toes to edge sled bottom part and extend knees locked,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2013, 09:33:59 AM
both i mix it up 2x per wk lots of sets and reps,,,heavy weight controlled tho ,,i never bounce rep,,,i do leg press extensions too toes to edge sled bottom part and extend knees locked,,,
yes i like them on the leg press too..work very well. I was just out with a friend walking for 1 hour 10 mins, he normally runs but because of an injury i suggested walking which we do together. I feel hungry now.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2013, 11:11:06 AM
back shot,,,,now from the rear i hold my leaness/weight different ...dry from the front and from the rear my lower back is where i hold water/fat ,i do plenty of hypers,lower back/ham still legged deads,,,genetic trait too short torso i have like dad kinda stocky italian gene,,,i stay lean everywhere else easy but there,,diet a bit harder and water will rectify but i'm happy with overall look right now...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2013, 11:25:11 AM
well looks ok to me. everyone has a problem area but to be honest you have an outsanding overall physique so itīs really minor.have you Bill pearls getting stronger or keys to the universe because there is an exercise i just started doing and it works the lower back/obliques well...bend to opposite feet with Dumbbell
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2013, 11:29:59 AM
well looks ok to me. everyone has a problem area but to be honest you have an outsanding overall physique so itīs really minor.have you Bill pearls getting stronger or keys to the universe because there is an exercise i just started doing and it works the lower back/obliques well...bend to opposite feet with Dumbbell
:),,,ur good guy,,,always up to try new things,,,like i said i'm a very well trained type like lifting ,,,cosmetic asthetic look is a bi product off one of the keys needed with diet,rest ,,,ect...i'm very focused on what i need to do at gym for the time i'm there and days i go,,,have to do alot in 4 days with balancing work,family,life,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2013, 11:31:43 AM
:),,,ur good guy,,,always up to try new things,,,like i said i'm a very well trained type like lifting ,,,cosmetic asthetic look is a bi product off one of the keys needed with diet,rest ,,,ect...i'm very focused on what i need to do at gym for the time i'm there and days i go,,,have to do alot in 4 days with balancing work,family,life,,,
you are too. you sound like a guy who looks after his family too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2013, 11:41:27 AM
you are too. you sound like a guy who looks after his family too.
8)..yeah 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 06, 2013, 12:37:14 PM
I would love a treadmill at home.  I would just watch tv or listen to music.  And before anybody tells me I would never use it, I would.  I stayed with a friend in melbourne years ago and she had a treadmill.  I would get up every morning and walk on it for an hour..I never missed a day and I stayed with her for a month.  So I know I would definitley get good use out of one.  I just get bored walking on a treadmill at the gym.  

Currently, our treadmill out in the garage. It is in a location where it is usable, although our garage isn't exactly well decorated or climate controlled. I should move it back into the house. I had it set up in one of our spare bedrooms on the main floor in hopes that my wife would use it, but she never did. It was also upstairs in the loft area for awhile. I liked having it up there because it is a nice open and bright space. It is a bitch to cart up the stairs though because it is not only heavy, but also awkward. Right now, the treadmill isn't seeing much action.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 06, 2013, 08:20:49 PM
Chest, delts

db incline press x 4 sets
pec flye machine x 4 sets
db shoulder presses x 4 sets
db lateral raises x 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 07, 2013, 01:47:32 AM
Chest, delts

db incline press x 4 sets
pec flye machine x 4 sets
db shoulder presses x 4 sets
db lateral raises x 3 sets
nice Karen today i will hit my chest/back more to follow....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 07, 2013, 04:43:47 AM
Today i just did:

jumping rope 10 mins 1 minute with 30 secs rest.
ABS:a  good warm up too
bend to opposite foot (as pic above) with DB 2x20 each side.
leg pull ins on floor 2x 50
Feet against wall crunches 2x 30

Barbell flat bench 4x8-10
flat flyes 3x12
Inclind DB press 4x10 ( i really went slow on the last 2 sets on the negative phase..felt it  ;) )
Incline Flyes 3x 12
1 set max push ups on floor

I just trained chest today and that was enough for me :) Have you noticed i like these smileys!! for cardio tonight at my work there is a martial arts group and i will join in for a bit of cardio. A kick boxing class. The Guy who runs it is a good friend.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 07, 2013, 05:14:48 AM
OFF YESTERDAY TOOK DOWN ALL CHRISTMAS STUFF,LAWN DECORATIONS,TREE OUT THE DOOR,,SWEPT THOUSAND'S OF TREE NEEDLE'S,RECONFIGURED LIVING ROOM BACK TO NORMALCY,,,DRANK SOME CABERNET  ;D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 07, 2013, 10:42:45 AM
well tonight was a great workout. Did a bit of sparring too. really got me sweating, have to do it more often.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2013, 12:40:20 PM
OFF YESTERDAY TOOK DOWN ALL CHRISTMAS STUFF,LAWN DECORATIONS,TREE OUT THE DOOR,,SWEPT THOUSAND'S OF TREE NEEDLE'S,RECONFIGURED LIVING ROOM BACK TO NORMALCY,,,DRANK SOME CABERNET  ;D...

It is always great putting up Christmas decorations and just a nice when you take them down and everything is back to normal. I took ours down on January 1. I still have some exterior decorations in the garage which I need to haul up to the attic. My next project is to organize the garage and the attic. It is hard to fine what you are looking for when things are disorganized.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 07, 2013, 07:52:23 PM
lifted yesterday, bench ,bb rows, curls clean and press, walk 2 miles. today I went to boxing class and the instructor had to go out of town so I wound up in the fitness center instead. 20 minute run on the treadmill, back extension, leg press, deadlifts, 1 arm dumbbell presses and medicine ball sit ups.
 I like using that nice equipment every once and while but what I have here gets the job done.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 07, 2013, 09:25:30 PM
Abdominals. 


Situps x 5 sets, first set 15 reps and rest 10 per set
Reverse crunches x 3 sets, 15 reps per set
Weighted side bends x 3 sets, 15 reps each side (only do these with light db's, 7 kg, 8kg, 9kg)
Crunches x 1 set at 50 reps
weighted crunches x 3 sets, 15 reps per set (started to sneeze on the last set so knew it was time to stop)

I am training abs on their own, since this seems to be causing the most swelling in my nose.  I am also sleeping up on two pillows at night, which is going to take some training on my part to get used to however if it makes me wake up in the mornings with little swelling then it's worth it.  I have slept this way for the past 3 nights and my nose feels and looks great.  I am going for a brisk walk this afternoon once this sun is less intense. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 08, 2013, 03:21:43 AM
Funny how things repeat themselves.. i was looking through a muscle mag that my son buys now and again and he asked me about Reg Park as there is an article on the Reg Park old school 5x5 training. I remember as a kid asking my Father nearly the same things except i asked about Steve Reeves. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 08, 2013, 04:51:05 AM
so i just worked Back:

chins 4x max
Barbell Rows 4x10
Dumbbell pullovers 3x12 (better than a barbell on my shoulders)
Deadlifts 4x10( plan to work legs on sat so no stiff deads on sat because it would be too much)
shrugs DB 4x12

calf raises standing one leg 4x max with bodyweight.
Cardio i will do at work on a bike, an interval program short...sweet..hard 20 mins  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 08, 2013, 05:31:35 AM
smith press
hammer lower press
inc dbell 60.65.75 reps 10/10/8
flyes flat 45/50/55 10/10/8
dips bodyweight 2x 20/15

tris
PUSHDOWNS
CLOSE GRIP SMITH
REVERSE GRIP PUSHDOWNS
TRI EXTENSION MACHINE

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 08, 2013, 09:42:41 AM
smith press
hammer lower press
inc dbell 60.65.75 reps 10/10/8
flyes flat 45/50/55 10/10/8
dips bodyweight 2x 20/15

tris
PUSHDOWNS
CLOSE GRIP SMITH
REVERSE GRIP PUSHDOWNS
TRI EXTENSION MACHINE

ABS
Donīt know how you manage your tricep training after a good solid chest workout.. I find it tires my Triceps out too much. Reverse grip pushdowns a nice exercise too, got it all covered.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 08, 2013, 09:52:54 AM
Donīt know how you manage your tricep training after a good solid chest workout.. I find it tires my Triceps out too much. Reverse grip pushdowns a nice exercise too, got it all covered.. ;D
hear ya,,,i get good workout and great pump,,not going to kidd u its tough but sometimes i'll do superset gian sets on tri's to get them done,,i always had good tri head/shape to them the strenght is there too but i like to pump them...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 08, 2013, 10:00:23 AM
I plan to train arms on their own Friday, will do Dips(overlap for my chest too). This week i am going to hit each muscle group on itīs own with a small one like Abs/calfes.

Mon:chest
tues:Back
Wed:shoulders
thurs:off
Fri:Arms (concentrated forearm training too)
Sat:Legs
Sun:Off
Abs and Calfes rotated each day... bit of a change for me doing this split.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 08, 2013, 10:07:32 AM
I plan to train arms on their own Friday, will do Dips(overlap for my chest too). This week i am going to hit each muscle group on itīs own with a small one like Abs/calfes.

Mon:chest
tues:Back
Wed:shoulders
thurs:off
Fri:Arms (concentrated forearm training too)
Sat:Legs
Sun:Off
Abs and Calfes rotated each day... bit of a change for me doing this split.
LIKE IT,,,,I CAN ONLY DO 4 DAYS MOST WKS,,,2 KIDS 7/3 GIRLS,,,
MON CHEST,TRI ABS
TUES OFF
WED BACK,BI ABS
THURS DELTS,CALVES,FOREARMS
FRI OFF
SAT LEGS COMPLETE
SUN OFF...
TUES OFF
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 08, 2013, 10:14:29 AM
I have done that split but as i said i found it hard to train my Tris, could do biceps on chest Day and tris on back Day but i like to train arms with shoulders or alone. Wanna blast my puny Forearms.. :D you are lucky you have Mentzer type lower arms.. I am lucky too my sons are big now so no problems there ! 2 Girls ..nice. We wanted a girl too but all boys in my Family ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 08, 2013, 10:18:18 AM
4/5 DAYS IS PLENTY,,,,BUT I LIKE THE 3 ON 1,2 ON 1 U DO BEST,,,,WHAT THROWS IT OFF MY WIFE IS A NURSE DOES OVERNIGHTS 7PM TO 7AM SHIFTS,,,,BUT SHE'LL WORK 3 DAY WK AND THEN 4DAY WK;;$$$ IN NJ IS GOOD FOR NURSES THO ESP NITE/WKEND/HOLIDAY PAY....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 09, 2013, 01:20:53 AM
60 mins brisk walking outdoors.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2013, 02:03:37 AM
60 mins brisk walking outdoors.
nice Karen and respect that you are still training despite your nose  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2013, 04:10:02 AM
Today was shoulders:

skipping 10 minuten / 1 min and 30 secs rest

Tri set ::

Clean and press( not a full clean.. like a hang clean from waist height and press) 4x10
Side laterals 4x10
Bent over Laterals 4x10

Abs: sit ups on a smaller bench i have and 2 punch combination at Top, my son held the pad ;D 4x20

Thatīs it today and later a walk. Tomorrow is REST Day.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2013, 10:37:56 AM
Tonight was a fast walk and running in between. was raining but not cold and i enjoyed it, lets you know you are alive.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 09, 2013, 10:46:56 AM
Tonight was a fast walk and running in between. was raining but not cold and i enjoyed it, lets you know you are alive.

I LOVE WALKING IN A SMALL SNOW STORM WHEN ITS SO QUIET OUTSIDE YOU HEAR THE FLAKES FALL AND HIT THE TREES AND ITS COLD BUT NOT BITTER COLD.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2013, 10:51:11 AM

I LOVE WALKING IN A SMALL SNOW STORM WHEN ITS SO QUIET OUTSIDE YOU HEAR THE FLAKES FALL AND HIT THE TREES AND ITS COLD BUT NOT BITTER COLD.
yes itīs great.. my favourite time of year is Autumn...The air is fresh and leaves everywhere...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 09, 2013, 04:22:28 PM
nice Karen and respect that you are still training despite your nose  ;)
Thanks Donny.  I am going to do something everyday and choose exercises that don't cause excessive swelling and train abs on their own, since they do tend to swell up my nose.  It must be the fact that I am laying on my back mostly, like in the sleep positon..which raises the bodys bp.  I guess I have got to start doing hanging knee tucks because that is an upright position.  At worst I am expecting to have this swelling for 6 months and it's the 12 week mark today, so I am half way there. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 09, 2013, 04:24:26 PM

I LOVE WALKING IN A SMALL SNOW STORM WHEN ITS SO QUIET OUTSIDE YOU HEAR THE FLAKES FALL AND HIT THE TREES AND ITS COLD BUT NOT BITTER COLD.
Sounds amazing.  Especially since I am covered in sand flie bites from walking outdoors in the tropics here. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2013, 04:26:17 PM
Thanks Donny.  I am going to do something everyday and choose exercises that don't cause excessive swelling and train abs on their own, since they do tend to swell up my nose.  It must be the fact that I am laying on my back mostly, like in the sleep positon..which raises the bodys bp.  I guess I have got to start doing hanging knee tucks because that is an upright position.  At worst I am expecting to have this swelling for 6 months and it's the 12 week mark today, so I am half way there. 
well you are braver than most of us Karen..when i get a sore throat i am touchy lol...respect.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 09, 2013, 04:38:18 PM
well you are braver than most of us Karen..when i get a sore throat i am touchy lol...respect.
I had sore throats and infections for 16 months prior to this op, so I will take the swelling for 6 months if it means a lifetime of no more nasty sinus infections.  I never get touchy when I get sick, I just get miserable and withdraw. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2013, 04:45:42 PM
I had sore throats and infections for 16 months prior to this op, so I will take the swelling for 6 months if it means a lifetime of no more nasty sinus infections.  I never get touchy when I get sick, I just get miserable and withdraw. 
we are here for you.. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 09, 2013, 04:55:02 PM
we are here for you.. ;)
Haha..thanks but I am not sick Donny.  If I get sick you will all know as I will disappear or be extremely quiet for a few days.  I get quiet too, when I have things on my mind or when something is upsetting me. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2013, 04:57:41 PM
Haha..thanks but I am not sick Donny.  If I get sick you will all know as I will disappear or be extremely quiet for a few days.  I get quiet too, when I have things on my mind or when something is upsetting me. 
well most Australians i have met were quite hard people.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 09, 2013, 05:46:04 PM
well most Australians i have met were quite hard people.
I probably come accross as tough on the outside but am soft on the inside, or so I have been told.  Probably the hardest people I have ever known were Russians/Ukranians.  Generation after generation have gone through so many hardships and tough times that the people are so tough and strong/hard. When I was first with my partner, he was so hard that I spent the first few years crying all the time. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2013, 05:50:04 PM
i would not hurt a fly  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2013, 02:45:24 AM
today is my rest day and tonight i will go for a swim and relax in the whirl pool.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 10, 2013, 02:58:47 AM
I've got to confess that I didn't do any exercise today, even though I said I would do something everyday.  I have a bad blister at the back of my heel and so I bought some new socks which prevent blisters.  And my other excuse is that I wanted to give my body a rest from being a feeding ground for the sandflies.  I will do weights tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2013, 03:07:01 AM
I've got to confess that I didn't do any exercise today, even though I said I would do something everyday.  I have a bad blister at the back of my heel and so I bought some new socks which prevent blisters.  And my other excuse is that I wanted to give my body a rest from being a feeding ground for the sandflies.  I will do weights tomorrow.
well itīs good to rest. I would love to just walk along a nice beach today...take in the sea air.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 10, 2013, 03:14:15 AM
well itīs good to rest. I would love to just walk along a nice beach today...take in the sea air.
That's what I have wanted to do all week, just walk on the beach with my knees up to water in the waves.  I think I will do it tomorrow after I have trained.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2013, 03:19:15 AM
That's what I have wanted to do all week, just walk on the beach with my knees up to water in the waves.  I think I will do it tomorrow after I have trained.
you are so lucky...but i would be scared of the Jelly fish... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 10, 2013, 05:18:36 AM
you are so lucky...but i would be scared of the Jelly fish... ;D
I will be really careful. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 10, 2013, 05:36:20 AM
That's what I have wanted to do all week, just walk on the beach with my knees up to water in the waves.  I think I will do it tomorrow after I have trained.
lucky,,,,water on the beach now in jersey frozen to the core,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2013, 07:08:26 AM
lucky,,,,water on the beach now in jersey frozen to the core,,
funny how we have diffrent weather...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 10, 2013, 07:45:12 AM
funny how we have diffrent weather...
YEAH BUT MAY/JUNE/JULY/AUG CAN BE SCORCHING AND OCEAN TEMPS BALMY 70/75...NOW THE ISLAND WHICH I HAVE BEEN TO A FEW ARE PARADISE,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2013, 07:57:24 AM
I want to live near a beach :) i would walk every morning or evening along the sea front.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 10, 2013, 08:44:56 AM
I want to live near a beach :) i would walk every morning or evening along the sea front.
would be nice ,,in u.s place to be if u have $$ san diego in california ,,beach,weather,food,heard awesome.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2013, 08:52:25 AM
would be nice ,,in u.s place to be if u have $$ san diego in california ,,beach,weather,food,heard awesome.
and the girls... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 10, 2013, 08:58:56 AM
and the girls... ;D
that's a given,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2013, 09:02:01 AM
that's a given,,,
your a solid guy
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 10, 2013, 09:08:20 AM
your a solid guy
8),,,TRY TO ,,JERSEY HAS SOME LOOKERS TOO...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2013, 09:12:03 AM
8),,,TRY TO ,,JERSEY HAS SOME LOOKERS TOO...
i have to visit the US of A sometime... ;) give your country a bit of Scottish culture...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 10, 2013, 09:21:10 AM
i have to visit the US of A sometime... ;) give your country a bit of Scottish culture...
;D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 10, 2013, 06:30:35 PM
lucky,,,,water on the beach now in jersey frozen to the core,,
The ocean water up here where I live is very warm, like bath water.  It is pure bliss. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 10, 2013, 06:52:40 PM
The ocean water up here where I live is very warm, like bath water.  It is pure bliss. 
nice  booty,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 11, 2013, 03:01:29 AM
Today is Arm day and i will do my Supersets and i will throw in these 2 moves. These you never see being used and the barbell Tricep "kickback" is not to be confused with lying tricep "extensions". I will blast my arms today and pay special attention to my grip strength and squeeze the Dumbbell rods and then direct forearm training.( i read that Mentzer once said he developed massive lower arms by just squeezing the bars) :o Anyway enough talk::
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 11, 2013, 03:41:25 AM
Nothing from me again today.  It could have been the heat today, but I didn't feel well...was very lighted headed.  It's 50 degrees celicus in some places around here.  Birds are dying from the heatwave and they are telling people to put out bowls of water for them.   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 11, 2013, 04:56:38 AM
Nothing from me again today.  It could have been the heat today, but I didn't feel well...was very lighted headed.  It's 50 degrees celicus in some places around here.  Birds are dying from the heatwave and they are telling people to put out bowls of water for them.   
really...i would put water out..but i like animals.. well my arms are pumped like balloons... ;D donīt think i could write a letter now !!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 11, 2013, 05:03:58 AM
really...i would put water out..but i like animals.. well my arms are pumped like balloons... ;D donīt think i could write a letter now !!
A pump that good is great Donny....good to hear it.   :)  I always have water outside at the back door for my cats and possumns and refill it several times per day. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 11, 2013, 05:48:35 AM
A pump that good is great Donny....good to hear it.   :)  I always have water outside at the back door for my cats and possumns and refill it several times per day. 
only thing about where you live that i do not like is all the snakes and spiders...put your shoes on and there is a big black spider in there  :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 11, 2013, 05:53:01 AM
only thing about where you live that i do not like is all the snakes and spiders...put your shoes on and there is a big black spider in there  :o
I've got my shoes in containers designed for shoes...nothing can get in there, no dust and no bugs/spiders. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 11, 2013, 06:05:34 AM
I've got my shoes in containers designed for shoes...nothing can get in there, no dust and no bugs/spiders. 
just make sure there are no spiders in your panty drawer.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 11, 2013, 06:12:03 AM
just make sure there are no spiders in your panty drawer.... ;D
I did find a spider in one of my other drawers the other day.   :o   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 11, 2013, 06:13:49 AM
I did find a spider in one of my other drawers the other day.   :o   
so is there a chance that you could be in bed sleeping and you get bitten ? serous question...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 11, 2013, 06:21:30 AM
so is there a chance that you could be in bed sleeping and you get bitten ? serous question...
Well possibly, although I clean my home every week of spider webbs.  And I have a few geckos around which eat bugs and spiders, although I have much fewer geckos lately since one of my kittens is a real hunter and keeps killing them.  I had a spider once in my bedroom and it was the size of a humans head.  I was on my computer ready to go to bed and turn it off when I looked up and saw this massive spider on the wall in front of me.  My heart started pounding and as I moved to the door, it's eyes followed me.  I got a shoe and hit it and it chased me around the room and I screamed so loud that I am sure I woke up half the neighbours.  I did kill it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 11, 2013, 08:44:17 AM
WOW SPIDERS,,,,ON TO LIGHTHEARTED SUBJECT DELT DAY

SMITH FRONT PRESS
SIDE LATERALS
REAR DELT WITH CABLE BENT OVER
CABLE LATERAL NO HANDLE JUST CABLE AND SLIGHT BENT AT ELBOW PULL TO A BIT OVER SHOULDER LEVEL ANOTHER SIDE DELT PUMPER,,
SHOULDER PRESS DB X2 TO FINISH

SHRUGS FRONT SMITH X3
DB SHRUG X2 AT SIDES AND THEN SLIGHT POSITION TO REAR AND THEN REAR DELT AND TRAPS FLEXED AND PULLED UP,, 85 X12,95X12

SMALL BODYPARTS TOO

FOREARMS
ROPE WEIGHT ROLLUPS OLD SCHOOL X3
REVERSE WRIST CURL CABLE X3

CALVES
STANDING CALF RAISE 200LB ON STACK DONE AS TOES AND FOOT IN X 8,FOOT REG FLAT POSITION X8,TOE IN X8 24 REPS SETS DONE 4X
SICK PUMP,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 11, 2013, 09:43:48 AM
WOW SPIDERS,,,,ON TO LIGHTHEARTED SUBJECT DELT DAY

SMITH FRONT PRESS
SIDE LATERALS
REAR DELT WITH CABLE BENT OVER
CABLE LATERAL NO HANDLE JUST CABLE AND SLIGHT BENT AT ELBOW PULL TO A BIT OVER SHOULDER LEVEL ANOTHER SIDE DELT PUMPER,,
SHOULDER PRESS DB X2 TO FINISH

SHRUGS FRONT SMITH X3
DB SHRUG X2 AT SIDES AND THEN SLIGHT POSITION TO REAR AND THEN REAR DELT AND TRAPS FLEXED AND PULLED UP,, 85 X12,95X12

SMALL BODYPARTS TOO

FOREARMS
ROPE WEIGHT ROLLUPS OLD SCHOOL X3
REVERSE WRIST CURL CABLE X3

CALVES
STANDING CALF RAISE 200LB ON STACK DONE AS TOES AND FOOT IN X 8,FOOT REG FLAT POSITION X8,TOE IN X8 24 REPS SETS DONE 4X
SICK PUMP,,,
nice workout...i was just out running and it snowed a bit...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 11, 2013, 07:55:25 PM
Not letting the heatwave or spiders stop me from training today.   :P  I will just drink more water and keep my blood sugar levels from dropping.  It might have been a bit of the case yesterday since i was dizzy but heat didn't help also and it did make me a bit lazy.  I think it was still 40 degrees celicus at 2am when I got up for a drink of water. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 11, 2013, 10:25:19 PM
Not letting the heatwave or spiders stop me from training today.   :P  I will just drink more water and keep my blood sugar levels from dropping.  It might have been a bit of the case yesterday since i was dizzy but heat didn't help also and it did make me a bit lazy.  I think it was still 40 degrees celicus at 2am when I got up for a drink of water. 

Do you not have air conditioning?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 12, 2013, 12:50:01 AM
Do you not have air conditioning?
Yes but I am only using it in the bedrooms because electricity has gone up 18 % since last year.  I am walking outdoors and getting to and from places and so I can't avoid the heat.  I don't think it's healthy either to constantly be in air con. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 12, 2013, 02:09:16 AM
Yes but I am only using it in the bedrooms because electricity has gone up 18 % since last year.  I am walking outdoors and getting to and from places and so I can't avoid the heat.  I don't think it's healthy either to constantly be in air con. 

Here tonight the temperature is 1.6 celcius or 29 degrees farenheit. I am not running the air-conditioning, just the heat. Fortunately our place is fairly well insulated. I actually have not heard the furnace come on in the last hour. Our electric bill runs around $100 a month year around. The furnace is gas so that bill climbs a lot in the winter.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2013, 02:11:29 AM
Yes but I am only using it in the bedrooms because electricity has gone up 18 % since last year.  I am walking outdoors and getting to and from places and so I can't avoid the heat.  I don't think it's healthy either to constantly be in air con. 
I think it will dry your skin too..or it does to me because i remember working all day in a gym with it and in summer it was on full blast..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 12, 2013, 02:23:50 AM
I think it will dry your skin too..or it does to me because i remember working all day in a gym with it and in summer it was on full blast..
Yes it's dehyrdating for the skin.  I always have to use a really good moisturizer at night when sleeping in air con.  Really air con is not healthy but in this extreme heat it's either that or keep waking up from sweating at the back of my neck/hair. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 12, 2013, 02:35:28 AM
Here tonight the temperature is 1.6 celcius or 29 degrees farenheit. I am not running the air-conditioning, just the heat. Fortunately our place is fairly well insulated. I actually have not heard the furnace come on in the last hour. Our electric bill runs around $100 a month year around. The furnace is gas so that bill climbs a lot in the winter.
That's a really cosy temp to sleep to at night.  I have insulation too however Australia pays the most for electricity in the world even though we sell coal to other countries.  My electricity bill last year during summer was $75 per week, I am not kidding.  That was mostly for air con since I never used any hot water in showers because the cold water is very warm when it comes from the tap.  I only used hot water for dishes.  It's ridiculous what aussies pay for electricity.  I never remember it being this expensive but the government especially the greens want electricity so that its not affordable and that has basically what has happened.  Alot of aussies don't even use heating during winter for this reason because they can't afford it.  We are using less electricity than previous years. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2013, 05:37:10 AM
so Today i will do some Leg training::

 warm up jumping rope 10 mins.
 Abs.. incline sit ups 3x20
 hanging knee raises 3x20

 Squats 4x 10-15
 leg extensions 4x10-15
 DB lunges 4x10-15
 leg curls    4x10-15
 standing one leg calf raise DB 5x 15,12,10,10,8 (adding weight each set)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 12, 2013, 05:53:57 AM
so Today i will do some Leg training::

 warm up jumping rope 10 mins.
 Abs.. incline sit ups 3x20
 hanging knee raises 3x20

 Squats 4x 10-15
 leg extensions 4x10-15
 DB lunges 4x10-15
 leg curls    4x10-15
 standing one leg calf raise DB 5x 15,12,10,10,8 (adding weight each set)
Are you going to train abs after legs Donny?  I just would never do my abs first as I wouldn't want to tire then before squats.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2013, 07:04:37 AM
Are you going to train abs after legs Donny?  I just would never do my abs first as I wouldn't want to tire then before squats.
karen my workout went totally diffrent. No i like to warm up with abs it warms my abs and lower back, i know what your thinking it will tire my "core" but i am OK. so it went like this today::
 Abs and skipping as my original plan...

leg extension3x15 Superset with
squats 3x12

Leg curls 3x15 SUPERSET with
DB stiff deads 3x15 ( i know i was not going to do them but my head said DO THEM!!)
Calf raises as Original plan.

when i did the pre-exhaust superset with squats i squated down with a flat bench under my ass for safety as i really went for it. I am lying now on my couch like an old man,,, ;D Now with pre-exhaust some say you will reach cardio failure before muscle failure but as i do lots of cardio i can cope.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2013, 07:35:46 AM
A good read about pre-exhaust wrote by Alan who i believe writes here too on getbig. A couple of exercises i do not like in the article, bench press to neck and sissy squats but a very good read...
http://www.palmieribodybuilding.com/PreExhaust.pdf
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 12, 2013, 07:40:54 AM
work started with a vengeance on tuesday. 10 to 12 hr days carrying boxes, moving steel, moving equipment, cleaning the shop etc. No time or energy to do anything more, going to relax today, lift and go walking tomorrow. hopefully do some boxing stuff monday since it will be mostly meetings all day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2013, 07:51:19 AM
work started with a vengeance on tuesday. 10 to 12 hr days carrying boxes, moving steel, moving equipment, cleaning the shop etc. No time or energy to do anything more, going to relax today, lift and go walking tomorrow. hopefully do some boxing stuff monday since it will be mostly meetings all day.
yes sometimes you have to rest till you feel you have the energy otherwise you just go through the motions...i have worked in Manuel jobs i know what you mean.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 12, 2013, 07:53:07 AM
karen my workout went totally diffrent. No i like to warm up with abs it warms my abs and lower back, i know what your thinking it will tire my "core" but i am OK. so it went like this today::
 Abs and skipping as my original plan...

leg extension3x15 Superset with
squats 3x12

Leg curls 3x15 SUPERSET with
DB stiff deads 3x15 ( i know i was not going to do them but my head said DO THEM!!)
Calf raises as Original plan.

when i did the pre-exhaust superset with squats i squated down with a flat bench under my ass for safety as i really went for it. I am lying now on my couch like an old man,,, ;D Now with pre-exhaust some say you will reach cardio failure before muscle failure but as i do lots of cardio i can cope.
NICE,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2013, 07:56:38 AM
i really felt my quads work.. 9/10 reps my quads were burning. a simple workout i did at home but it got me working. No walking or running iīm gonna rest now and get some food down my neck... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 12, 2013, 01:29:54 PM
Yes it's dehyrdating for the skin.  I always have to use a really good moisturizer at night when sleeping in air con.  Really air con is not healthy but in this extreme heat it's either that or keep waking up from sweating at the back of my neck/hair. 

Living in Oregon, we only get a few days of uncomfortably hot weather a year. It seems unnecessary to have air conditioning here. We have a ceiling fan in the loft. The furnace fan can also be used without heat to circulate the air in the house when it is hot. Supposedly, the older one gets the more susceptible to temperature extremes they are. Being one who is older, I have yet to have a problem with the few days in late summer that the inside of our home gets up to 75 or 80 degrees farenheit.

Having said the above, most houses in my area do have air-conditioning. I know people that start running it when the temperature gets up to around 80 degrees outside. This seems ridiculous. In the winter, they turn the thermostat up to 75 to get warm and in the summer they turn it down to 65 to cool off. To me they are simply spoiled energy hogs. Some friends of mine argue over the thermostat, he's always too cold and she's always too hot....wouldn't want to pay their energy bills. My cousin who lives in Main never turns her heat on above 50 degrees farenheit. We don't visit her in the winter. My son did and he said he nearly froze. I guess it is to each his own.   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 13, 2013, 03:10:18 AM
Just 60 mins of brisk walking outdoors today. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 13, 2013, 03:14:25 AM
karen my workout went totally diffrent. No i like to warm up with abs it warms my abs and lower back, i know what your thinking it will tire my "core" but i am OK. so it went like this today::
 Abs and skipping as my original plan...

leg extension3x15 Superset with
squats 3x12

Leg curls 3x15 SUPERSET with
DB stiff deads 3x15 ( i know i was not going to do them but my head said DO THEM!!)
Calf raises as Original plan.

when i did the pre-exhaust superset with squats i squated down with a flat bench under my ass for safety as i really went for it. I am lying now on my couch like an old man,,, ;D Now with pre-exhaust some say you will reach cardio failure before muscle failure but as i do lots of cardio i can cope.
If it works for you then by all means do it Donny.  I was just wondering that's all.  I guess it was old school to train abs first and then train other bodyparts, but in recent years that has all changed and they recommend to train abs of a workout.  I sometimes squat down onto a bench and really focus on squeezing my glutes.  I will keep legs together for this, as opposed to having a wider stance.  I like to vary it for squats.  Another one I love is sumo squats.  It is so awesome for hitting the inner thighs, glutes, quads and hams. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 13, 2013, 03:34:20 AM
If it works for you then by all means do it Donny.  I was just wondering that's all.  I guess it was old school to train abs first and then train other bodyparts, but in recent years that has all changed and they recommend to train abs of a workout.  I sometimes squat down onto a bench and really focus on squeezing my glutes.  I will keep legs together for this, as opposed to having a wider stance.  I like to vary it for squats.  Another one I love is sumo squats.  It is so awesome for hitting the inner thighs, glutes, quads and hams. 
yeah i as i wrote on another thread i use staggered sets too for abs and calfes..i got the idea for training abs first from Bill Pearl when i tel with him some years ago...I just had the seat end of the bench behind me and just touched it lightly i did not straddle the bench..was for for safety as i have no power rack. I could not squat as low as normal but today i feel it..some snow today but i will go for a walk/run later..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 13, 2013, 03:47:11 AM
Just 60 mins of brisk walking outdoors today. 
i am thinking of getting a weight vest...the weight is better distributed than a ruck sack
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 13, 2013, 03:51:10 AM
i am thinking of getting a weight vest...the weight is better distributed than a ruck sack
Shit I couldn't stand a weight vest.  It's bad enough having to drag my own body around without any additional weight.   ;D  I will get back to weights tomorrow.  I spent the day getting jerked around waiting for the store where I got my iphone from, to replace my charger since it was faulty and stopped charging last night.  Then I didn't feel like training later in the evening as I drink too much water and then am up all night peeing. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 13, 2013, 07:43:19 AM
Shit I couldn't stand a weight vest.  It's bad enough having to drag my own body around without any additional weight.   ;D  I will get back to weights tomorrow.  I spent the day getting jerked around waiting for the store where I got my iphone from, to replace my charger since it was faulty and stopped charging last night.  Then I didn't feel like training later in the evening as I drink too much water and then am up all night peeing. 
I just like the pain... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 13, 2013, 12:09:50 PM
tonight i went for a nice easy run..was quite fresh outside.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 13, 2013, 12:20:01 PM
wound up doing my boxing workout yesterday afternoon, walked this AM and just finished lifting. Bench, bb rows, ez bar curls, hammer curls, deep knee bends, and some flys.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 13, 2013, 12:52:50 PM
legs...
leg press 3 plates per side warmupx12,,,4 for 12,,,,5 x12...6 x10,,7 x9..8 x6...
leg extensions x3 sets 12 got up to 265 stack is 305,,
hack squat 4 plates per side x2 10 reps,,then set with 5 plates for 8 dead...
walking lunges 50 lb dbells walk up gym floor 12 steps per leg x2

hams seated leg curls x3
lying leg curls x3

calf press on leg press x4 3 plates per side,3.5,then 2 sets 4 plates all over 10 to 15 rep sets...

very big pump,fatigued and still pump/sore hrs later,,, ;D,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 13, 2013, 01:11:34 PM
I walked down to the curb today to pick up the Sunday paper from the paper box. It is 30 degrees farenheit outside; very crisp and nice with the sun shinning. Whenever the sun shines in Oregon, we are happy regardless of how cold it is out.

I am reading all of your posts about your various exercise routines. If I don't hit the gym next week, one of you needs to come to Oregon and slap me upside my head. Each week, I say this is the week I start back working out and then something gets in the way of this happening. I know it is just a matter of prioritizing things better, but I am having a hell of a time doing that lately. Other than a few business calls, a breakfast meeting and lunch with a friend, I don't believe there is anything on my calendar next week. NO EXCUSES!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 13, 2013, 08:09:26 PM
legs...
leg press 3 plates per side warmupx12,,,4 for 12,,,,5 x12...6 x10,,7 x9..8 x6...
leg extensions x3 sets 12 got up to 265 stack is 305,,
hack squat 4 plates per side x2 10 reps,,then set with 5 plates for 8 dead...
walking lunges 50 lb dbells walk up gym floor 12 steps per leg x2

hams seated leg curls x3
lying leg curls x3

calf press on leg press x4 3 plates per side,3.5,then 2 sets 4 plates all over 10 to 15 rep sets...

very big pump,fatigued and still pump/sore hrs later,,, ;D,,,
no wonder you were still pumped after a hardcore workout like that ..makes mine look tame...LOL
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 13, 2013, 08:13:35 PM
I just wish I was anywhere else except in this horrible harsh hot and scorching country.  Yeah I am having one of those negative feel sorry for myself days.  I am over this heat...I am over my clothes sticking to me and constantly sweating.  I am over my aching and overly sensitve nipples and I am over not sleeping until 3am at nights because I cannot get used to sleeping up on pillows.  I am over my dark circles under my eyes...I never had them before surgery.  And I feel like miss piggy.  I am supose to like how I look after I get my nose done and straightened but today I just prefer how I looked before...swollen free and no circles under my eyes.  Hopefully I feel better after I train today.  >:(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 14, 2013, 01:12:57 AM
Change of plan, was supose to do legs but instead trained bis and tris.  I just wanted a quick workout and I didn't feel like doing any big muscle groups.  I noticed my arms were stronger and I am back to the weights I was doing before I developed the asthma from the upper sinus blockage and from the time off I had after the op.  So that was a good feeling...to be back where I once was in regards to strength.  It didn't take me that long to focus from the neck down and I forgot that I was tired and over the whole swelling thing.

Incline db curls x 5 sets
barbell straight bar curls x 4 sets
tricep pressdowns V bar x 5 sets
rope pressdowns x 4 sets

Finished off with 60 mins brisk walking outdoors. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2013, 04:26:22 AM
Change of plan, was supose to do legs but instead trained bis and tris.  I just wanted a quick workout and I didn't feel like doing any big muscle groups.  I noticed my arms were stronger and I am back to the weights I was doing before I developed the asthma from the upper sinus blockage and from the time off I had after the op.  So that was a good feeling...to be back where I once was in regards to strength.  It didn't take me that long to focus from the neck down and I forgot that I was tired and over the whole swelling thing.

Incline db curls x 5 sets
barbell straight bar curls x 4 sets
tricep pressdowns V bar x 5 sets
rope pressdowns x 4 sets

Finished off with 60 mins brisk walking outdoors. 
sometimes you got to go by how you feel and adapt your training..i do this too. Well today i am going for a Dumbbell only chest workout but i will do straight sets::

Flat Dumbbell bench press 4x8-10
Flat flyes 4x12
Incline Dumbbell press Hammer grip 4x8-10
Incline Flyes 4x12
push ups to failure 1-2 sets if i have the strength.

V-raise sit ups 2 sets to failure.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2013, 04:29:07 AM
wound up doing my boxing workout yesterday afternoon, walked this AM and just finished lifting. Bench, bb rows, ez bar curls, hammer curls, deep knee bends, and some flys.
got all the main muscles covered right there...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 14, 2013, 04:33:43 AM
sometimes you got to go by how you feel and adapt your training..i do this too. Well today i am going for a Dumbbell only chest workout but i will do straight sets::

Flat Dumbbell bench press 4x8-10
Flat flyes 4x12
Incline Dumbbell press Hammer grip 4x8-10
Incline Flyes 4x12
push ups to failure 1-2 sets if i have the strength.

V-raise sit ups 2 sets to failure.

I prefer dumbells over barbells in most cases.  Yes sometimes its good to adapt to how you are feeling in regards to training and other times you have to push yourself to do something you don't really feel like doing.   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2013, 05:44:51 AM
really killed me doing 4 sets for all exercises...you do not realize how much impact the stabilizing muscles have... these two ab exercises i did old but hammer my abs from top to bottom  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 14, 2013, 05:52:11 AM
really killed me doing 4 sets for all exercises...you do not realize how much impact the stabilizing muscles have... these two ab exercises i did old but hammer my abs from top to bottom  ;D

These V situps are great..how many did you do Donny?  I haven't done them for ages.  When this nose is not swelling, I will start doing them again.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2013, 05:55:48 AM
well i did 30 reps on the first exercise for 3 sets and then on the twisting i donīt know i just went to failure for two sets. one rep is left and right.. i just worked till failure. I lost count ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2013, 06:01:06 AM
did these in the Army a lot but i like this book still some good stuff in there::
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 14, 2013, 06:29:58 AM
If you want a brillant book Donny, then I suggest this one.  Had it for years and it's one of my favs.  If you love anatomy and want to see it in use when executing exercises then this is the book to get. 

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=GgLGWbv763EC&source=gbs_similarbooks
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2013, 06:38:16 AM
yes....got it ....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 14, 2013, 06:40:34 AM
yes....got it ....
Ah ha Awesome.   ;D 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2013, 06:44:24 AM
A good book for German speakers, wrote by 2 sport doctors.. used this when i did my Trainer licence..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 14, 2013, 02:22:51 PM
These V situps are great..how many did you do Donny?  I haven't done them for ages.  When this nose is not swelling, I will start doing them again.

I thought you might be interested in these doctor's opinions regarding nasal swelling following rhinoplasty:

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Swelling after Rhinoplasty: Gradual Improvement

The amount of swelling and how long it persists after rhinoplasty depends on several factors such as the surgeon's technique, open versus closed approach, whether the nasal bones were broken, and the number of prior nasal surgeries.

Patients in whom open rhinoplasty techniques were used, cases in which the nasal bones were broken, and a history of one or more previous nasal surgeries often will have more prolonged swelling.

During the first week, most patients will have moderate swelling . Usually, by the end of the second week, much of the bruising and swelling have subsided to the point that it is not obvious to the casual observer that the patient has had surgery.

However, the nose will look swollen or puffy to the patient for 3 to 4 months. It usually takes a full year for the residual swelling to resolve and the final result be apparent.

C. Spencer Cochran, MD

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Swelling 3 weeks after Rhinoplasty is normal

Rhinoplasty swelling occurs both on the outside and inside of the nose. Patients are generally "restaurant ready" and socially acceptable within 2 weeks following surgery. Most swelling after rhinoplasty resolves within a month. The final 20% of swelling takes a much longer time to resolve, up to a year after surgery. Fortunately, this final swelling is usually only evident to the surgeon and patient.

Rhinoplasty swelling varies greatly and is largely based on the areas of the nose treated, surgical approach to the nose (open or closed/endonasal), skin thickness, postoperative care, and your healing ability. The more extensive the surgery, the more you will swell and the longer the swelling will last. The tip of the nose holds onto swelling longer than the other parts of the nose. Open rhinoplasty, where there is an external incision at the base of the nose, swells more and longer than closed/endonasal rhinoplasty. Patients with thicker skin will have more swelling.

Keeping your head elevated, maintaining the nasal splint/cast, ice, arnica montana, and following your plastic surgeon's guideline will help reduce rhinoplasty swelling. Persistant swelling may also be reduced by steroid treatment into the nose. Don't hesitate to speak to your plastic surgeon about any swelling.

Houtan Chaboki, MD

I don't recall how long it has been since your surgery, but if it has been several weeks and the worst of the swelling has not subsided, I would be concerned. I remember that you recently saw your surgeon and he said everything was as expected. However, if the the worst of the swelling has not subsided pretty soon, you might want to have a second opinion regarding this. You sure don't want to end up looking like Michael Jackson with the tip of your nose falling off.

I had rhinoplasty when I was in my late twenties. The main reason was to repair a deviated septum. Unlike you, no bones were broken and the doctor worked from within the nostrils, so he didn't need to cut the base of the nose (closed proceedure). I guess I was lucky because aside from the first couple of weeks, I didn't have much swelling at all.

My daughter had rhinoplasty twice. In addition to having a deviated septum, she had a small bump on the bridge of her nose reduced, which was too bad because her nose was attractive and more distinctive prior to the surgery, in my opinion. The second surgery was to fix some flaw she felt she had from the previous surgery that none of the rest of us could see. Anyway, she didn't have noticeable swelling after several weeks and she said all the swelling was gone in six months.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2013, 06:07:21 PM
My back workout today is:

sternum chins 3x max
barbell rows 4x10
Dumbbell pullovers 3x15
DB shrugs 3x 12+
one legged db standing calf raises 3x15-20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 14, 2013, 06:37:25 PM
I thought you might be interested in these doctor's opinions regarding nasal swelling following rhinoplasty:
 
C. Spencer Cochran, MD
 
Houtan Chaboki, MD

I don't recall how long it has been since your surgery, but if it has been several weeks and the worst of the swelling has not subsided, I would be concerned. I remember that you recently saw your surgeon and he said everything was as expected. However, if the the worst of the swelling has not subsided pretty soon, you might want to have a second opinion regarding this. You sure don't want to end up looking like Michael Jackson with the tip of your nose falling off.

I had rhinoplasty when I was in my late twenties. The main reason was to repair a deviated septum. Unlike you, no bones were broken and the doctor worked from within the nostrils, so he didn't need to cut the base of the nose (closed proceedure). I guess I was lucky because aside from the first couple of weeks, I didn't have much swelling at all.

My daughter had rhinoplasty twice. In addition to having a deviated septum, she had a small bump on the bridge of her nose reduced, which was too bad because her nose was attractive and more distinctive prior to the surgery, in my opinion. The second surgery was to fix some flaw she felt she had from the previous surgery that none of the rest of us could see. Anyway, she didn't have noticeable swelling after several weeks and she said all the swelling was gone in six months.

I've done quite a bit of googling and have been told to stop by the surgeon.  It just makes things go over and over in your mind and doesn't help.  My nose ears throat specialist is a visiting surgeon meaning that he doesn't live in my town.  We don't have any nose ears throat specialists here....they are all visiting ones so too difficult to get a second opinion.  Plus I already saw his partner a couple of weeks ago and he said that what I am experiencing is very normal.  It takes 8 weeks for all swelling to go down if the patient just gets cleaned out..meaning no bones are broken.  If a bone is broken which in my case it was to straighten my nose then you double or triple the time, so that takes it to 6 months.  It's been 12 weeks since my surgery so I am at the half way point.  Anything which overheats the body or raises the bp will make the nose swell.  I am living in an extremely hot climate...it was close to 50 degrees celicus the other day in some parts of Mackay so you can imagine this kind of heat all the time.  Plus I am exercising which again heats the body and I am already hot all the time.  If I didn't work out I can imagine I would feel alot more comfortable and would have way less swelling.  I know this because a couple of times I didn't exercise for 2-3 days and my nose felt and looked great and I had very little discomfort.  Then I train again and bam the swelling comes up.  I have got a low steriod ampule pulmicort to put into my air flow solution when I clean out my nose and this is to help bring down the swelling. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 14, 2013, 07:59:04 PM
I've done quite a bit of googling and have been told to stop by the surgeon.  It just makes things go over and over in your mind and doesn't help.  My nose ears throat specialist is a visiting surgeon meaning that he doesn't live in my town.  We don't have any nose ears throat specialists here....they are all visiting ones so too difficult to get a second opinion.  Plus I already saw his partner a couple of weeks ago and he said that what I am experiencing is very normal.  It takes 8 weeks for all swelling to go down if the patient just gets cleaned out..meaning no bones are broken.  If a bone is broken which in my case it was to straighten my nose then you double or triple the time, so that takes it to 6 months.  It's been 12 weeks since my surgery so I am at the half way point.  Anything which overheats the body or raises the bp will make the nose swell.  I am living in an extremely hot climate...it was close to 50 degrees celicus the other day in some parts of Mackay so you can imagine this kind of heat all the time.  Plus I am exercising which again heats the body and I am already hot all the time.  If I didn't work out I can imagine I would feel alot more comfortable and would have way less swelling.  I know this because a couple of times I didn't exercise for 2-3 days and my nose felt and looked great and I had very little discomfort.  Then I train again and bam the swelling comes up.  I have got a low steriod ampule pulmicort to put into my air flow solution when I clean out my nose and this is to help bring down the swelling. 

Surely, you are fine. Like you suggest, the combination of air temperature and you working out is probably exasperating the situation with your nose swelling. It probably isn't the best idea to focus on it anymore than you already are. Worry never fixed anything. Age probably plays some role in the healing process too. As I mentioned, I was only 29 when I had rhinoplasty. My daughter was 34 if I remember correctly. Every person heals differently. I tend to be a fast healer.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 14, 2013, 10:25:12 PM
I think as we get older Prime, that we heal at a slower rate.  But in this case I think that it's perfectly normal what I am experiencing.  Anyway I just got back from gym and I had a good train.  I did legs and I found that I am stronger like I was stronger yesterday in my arms.  I feel good.


Barbell back squats x 4 sets 
SLD's x 4 sets
thigh extensions x 4 sets

Just waiting for the sun to get a bit lower in the sky and I will be going for another brisk walk....60 mins outdoors. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2013, 03:21:08 AM
yes...we are slowly aging but i will continue to press and pull that old rusty iron bar till i die...itīs my destiny to one Day train with steve reeves and reg park in the Big Gym in the sky...Today i added barbell shrugs behind my back. i feel great, tonight i will go swimming and use the whirl pool to massage my muscles. A great way to finish a very productive Day ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 15, 2013, 03:27:45 AM
yes...we are slowly aging but i will continue to press and pull that old rusty iron bar till i die...itīs my destiny to one Day train with steve reeves and reg park in the Big Gym in the sky...Today i added barbell shrugs behind my back. i feel great, tonight i will go swimming and use the whirl pool to massage my muscles. A great way to finish a very productive Day ;)
We get older everyday and there's nothing we can do to stop it, however I believe that resistance weight training does keep the hormones functioning at a healthier level than if we did nothing and that in itself is the fountain of youth.  Really anything that keeps you moving is anti aging. 
That whirlpool sounds good.  I sometimes sit in the massage chair at the gym after I train and that feels good.  Sometimes the massage gets a bit rough too and that hurts. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2013, 04:29:25 AM
We get older everyday and there's nothing we can do to stop it, however I believe that resistance weight training does keep the hormones functioning at a healthier level than if we did nothing and that in itself is the fountain of youth.  Really anything that keeps you moving is anti aging. 
That whirlpool sounds good.  I sometimes sit in the massage chair at the gym after I train and that feels good.  Sometimes the massage gets a bit rough too and that hurts. 
i agree.. have you looked at the typical long distance runner?? weight training does help in anti-ageing...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 15, 2013, 04:37:44 AM
i agree.. have you looked at the typical long distance runner?? weight training does help in anti-ageing...
I haven't paid too much attention except to the fact that they are in good shape and with firm skin and a good healthy colour. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2013, 04:39:31 AM
I haven't paid too much attention except to the fact that they are in good shape and with firm skin and a good healthy colour. 
well do not worry because you have a very pretty face and nice skin... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 15, 2013, 04:41:46 AM
well do not worry because you have a very pretty face and nice skin... ;)
Thank you Donny.   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 15, 2013, 04:48:30 AM
well do not worry because you have a very pretty face and nice skin... ;)
DOWN UNDER HAS IT REWARDS,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 15, 2013, 04:52:58 AM
DOWN UNDER HAS IT REWARDS,,,,
Today I was thinking to myself as the sun beat down on my skin and intensity of it hurt my skin...this country should have just kept the aborigines only and kept the white people out of it.  It's not made for white people...the heat, the sun.  
That was my grumpy mood leaving the gym, as I had to walk out into the hot sun and then get in the car and have the sun beating down on me.  I don't know guys, but have you ever had eyes sweat???  
The best thing about Australia is the beaches, the ocean and the beauty.  But it's a harsh country!  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2013, 04:54:42 AM
Today I was thinking to myself as the sun beat down on my skin and intensity of it hurt my skin...this country should have just kept the aborigines only and kept the white people out of it.  It's not made for white people...the heat, the sun. 
That was my grumpy just leaving the gym mood, as I had to walk out into the hot sun and then get in the car and have the sun beating down on me.  I don't know guys, but have you ever had eyes sweat??? 
The best thing about Australia is the beaches, the ocean and the beauty.  But it's a harsh country! 
i would not last 2 mins in the heat... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 15, 2013, 04:57:01 AM
i would not last 2 mins in the heat... :)

You would if bobbed up and down in the ocean.  But you would want to get out and as the sun starts to go down, it's when the sharks come out to feed.  So you would have to get out.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2013, 05:04:22 AM
You would if bobbed up and down in the ocean.  But you wouldn't want to get out and as the sun starts to go down, it's when the sharks come out to feed.  So you would have to get out.   ;D
respect...crazy ... i mean where you live and in some parts of the US itīs really dangerous but intresting how people have learned to live in Harmony with nature with itīs nice and hard side...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 15, 2013, 05:11:30 AM
respect...crazy ... i mean where you live and in some parts of the US itīs really dangerous but intresting how people have learned to live in Harmony with nature with itīs nice and hard side...
It's just accepted here.  You get used to living amongst some of the most dangerous creatures in the world.  It becomes the norm and you don't know anything else.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2013, 05:39:31 AM
It's just accepted here.  You get used to living amongst some of the most dangerous creatures in the world.  It becomes the norm and you don't know anything else.
well you know in Scotland we have a very dangerous creature called the "Haggis".. very nasty... :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 15, 2013, 05:43:39 AM
well you know in Scotland we have a very dangerous creature called the "Haggis".. very nasty... :D
Omg that's that disgusting looking sausage isn't it?  I think it's some horrible part of an animal.   :-X
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2013, 06:24:57 AM
Omg that's that disgusting looking sausage isn't it?  I think it's some horrible part of an animal.   :-X
it tastes not bad.. have not eaten it in years... :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 15, 2013, 06:58:49 AM
it tastes not bad.. have not eaten it in years... :'(
I wouldn't eat it for all the tea in china.  I don't eat any red meats and things like that make me feel sick in my stomach just thinking about it. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2013, 07:03:37 AM
I wouldn't eat it for all the tea in china.  I don't eat any red meats and things like that make me feel sick in my stomach just thinking about it. 
i like meat but i think i could do without it. my father was a Butcher and as a kid i went Saturday mornings with him and helped clean up. I could not slaughter animals and from what my father told me in the old days it was brutal. maybe this is why i like animals today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 15, 2013, 07:10:16 AM
i like meat but i think i could do without it. my father was a Butcher and as a kid i went Saturday mornings with him and helped clean up. I could not slaughter animals and from what my father told me in the old days it was brutal. maybe this is why i like animals today.
I have always thought to myself that I would never have a relationship with a butcher.  I just find it cruel and barbaric to slaughter animals and the smell of the blood on a persons hands would turn me off.  It turns me off even thinking about it. 
My father used to hunt deer when I was little and I think this is what turned me off eating red meat.  I would see him bring home the dead deer and just all the cleaning up of the dead animal etc..blood.  I went pure vegetarian when I was a child, even refused to eat chicken.  The only thing I would eat was fish/oysters/scallops etc.  I started eating chicken when I was older but to be honest I could give it up no worries. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2013, 07:56:39 AM
still love haggis...just got to catch one... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 15, 2013, 10:44:17 AM
If I had to kill what I ate, I would starve. I lived on a farm when I was a kid. My cousin butchered a young steer. I ate the meat, but I hadn't watch him butcher it. When I was older, my parents had a small "gentlemen's farm" where they raised two pigs among other animals. The neighbors complained about the pigs because they were loud and, well, because they were pigs. Anyway, they had them butchered. I actually help the fellow butchering them. What I remember most was that they "jumped" out of the wheelbarrow after they'd be shot and were supposedly dead. They were dead, it was just their muscles twitching. I don't remember eating the meat. I probably blocked it out. I eat meat today. I just don't think about where it came from.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 15, 2013, 11:38:23 AM
chest workout
fdb press 60x12,75x10,80x10,85x7
smith inc x3
inc flye 45,50,55 12/10/8
dips x2 15 reps per set
flat smith x3 finish 8/8/15 pump set

tris
pushdowns x3 stack machine 130x15,140x12,150 x9
seat tri dip x3
lying tri extension 30lb dbells x3 12 reps
cable kick back x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 16, 2013, 04:57:37 AM
so today i will train shoulders....

Abs double crunches and flutter kicks( leg raises with an alternative motion)

TRISET:
standing barbell press 4x10
side laterals 4x10
bent over laterals 4x10
I will finish off with alternate Dumbbell press as i feel i can hold my arms further back and hit my delts more centrally.. safer than behind the neck press.3x10
I will go to the local school tonight and do some sprints.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 16, 2013, 05:43:34 AM
What's a double crunch Donny?  Maybe we call it something different here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 16, 2013, 07:07:51 AM
doing a reverse crunch(rolling the knees to the rib cage) and a crunch(rolling the rib cage to the pelvis)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 16, 2013, 02:51:00 PM
caught some kind of cough/cold, been feeling down the last few days. forcing myself to go to the gym after work tomorrow, got to do something, tired of feeling like dogcrap.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 16, 2013, 03:07:32 PM
caught some kind of cough/cold, been feeling down the last few days. forcing myself to go to the gym after work tomorrow, got to do something, tired of feeling like dogcrap.
take a lighter workout.. donīt be tough on yourself. better still mellow out at home,eat well and come back refreshed.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 16, 2013, 07:31:45 PM
back tonite'
chins x3 12/12/12
tbar row machine x3 2.5 plates 12,3plates x10,4 plates x6
wide bar low rows x3
hammer reverse pulldowns x3 2 plates per side x10,2 plates and ten x2 8-10 reps
single arm cable row did them like pulling lawn mower chord old style mower lol x3

weighted hypers x3 12 rep sets

bi's
cable curls with small straight bar x4 15/12/10/10
bi cep db curl 35,40,45 10/10/8
seated concentration curls dbell elbow on inside leg 30,35,40 ,,10/10/8 with cheat,,,

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 17, 2013, 03:23:23 AM
back tonite'
chins x3 12/12/12
tbar row machine x3 2.5 plates 12,3plates x10,4 plates x6
wide bar low rows x3
hammer reverse pulldowns x3 2 plates per side x10,2 plates and ten x2 8-10 reps
single arm cable row did them like pulling lawn mower chord old style mower lol x3

weighted hypers x3 12 rep sets

bi's
cable curls with small straight bar x4 15/12/10/10
bi cep db curl 35,40,45 10/10/8
seated concentration curls dbell elbow on inside leg 30,35,40 ,,10/10/8 with cheat,,,

abs
no training for me today...hypers i have not done in a long time. do you find them better for your back?(i think you said one time that you had an injury)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 17, 2013, 03:30:40 AM
caught some kind of cough/cold, been feeling down the last few days. forcing myself to go to the gym after work tomorrow, got to do something, tired of feeling like dogcrap.

There's that flu going around.  I hope you feel better soon, so maybe take a couple of days to rest up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 17, 2013, 04:00:32 AM
There's that flu going around.  I hope you feel better soon, so maybe take a couple of days to rest up.
there was a bad flu here too...lucky i never caught it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 17, 2013, 04:01:31 AM
there was a bad flu here too...lucky i never caught it.
It's predicted to hit Australia. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 17, 2013, 04:09:07 AM
It's predicted to hit Australia. 
hope you donīt get it Karen because of your nose...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 17, 2013, 04:15:22 AM
hope you donīt get it Karen because of your nose...
Well I think I already got it last time it was here because I hardly ever get sick and I remember getting this flu that I couldn't shake.  And I had a lot of mucus in my nose and it was going down the back of my throat and I lost my voice completely for two weeks.  Anyway after being sick for a month and having no voice for two weeks i went to the doctor and he said lets get you sorted.  And I went on course after course of antibiotic and that was for sinus infections which I just couldn't get rid of.  So I believe that it was that flu which got me into the situation with the nose/sinus blockage.  Because I have always had this nose and never had any issue with sinus etc until I got that flu.  I would already have immunity to it since I got it last time and I clean my nose out daily with the air flow bottle so I would never get a build up ever again.  I am not worried Donny.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 18, 2013, 04:26:31 AM
so time to have fun itīs Arm Day.
Jumping rope as always to warm up and i will do Abs:

Bend to opposite foot Dbsī2x20( warms my lower back up for sit ups)
lying leg pull-ins (knee ins ) 3x30+
Incline bench sit ups 3x20+  I will SUPERSET them both after the knee ins my Abs really work harder on the Incline bench sit ups and i use a small motion just going back far enough to keep tension on the Abs.
Note: i almost never use weight on Abs.

SUPERSETS:
Barbell close grip bench press 2x6-8  with
Barbell curls   2x6-8

seated Db curls 2x6-8   with
incline french press(ez bar) 2x8-10

Barbell concentration curls 2x10-12 (not an ex for heavy weight)
lying 4x4x4 DB curls 2x12 (also an ex where i have to concentrate and correct form is important)

forearms:
preacher reverse curls ez bar 2x15 SUPERSET
barbell wrist curls forearms on knees  2x15 ( OPENING THE FINGERS ;))
 I will finish off with pinch grips with a smooth plate.




Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 18, 2013, 04:41:29 AM
This is knee ins then sit ups on my smaller bench...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2013, 05:43:47 AM
cool donny,,,,

delts
shoulder db press
side laterals
rear delt lying on slight incline face down on bench
cable upright row i used handles instead of bar
cable side lateral no handle just cable hook attached came from across body and elbow up angled down on top of movement hits side delt different a tad lol,,,,
total 15 sets

traps smith shrug front and rear 3 front 2 rear..reps and squeeze 12 reps each set

calves standing calf raise

donny favorite forearms took advice from the wrist curl thread the rope curl did overhand grip then lower then flipped to underhand grip
great pump on inner forearms sick vascularity.then i did cable behind back lower to fingertips then flex at top wrist curls
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 18, 2013, 05:55:53 AM
I will over the weekend make a rope device... ;) I keep saying it. i dropped the volume because i am now training 5 days a week and really going for Quality reps and feeling it. on the 4x4x4 curls..i was nearly screaming.. ;D i really did the reps conttrolled.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 18, 2013, 05:58:08 AM
Good workouts guys.  I will train tomorrow and get mine up. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2013, 06:18:25 AM
I will over the weekend make a rope device... ;) I keep saying it. i dropped the volume because i am now training 5 days a week and really going for Quality reps and feeling it. on the 4x4x4 curls..i was nearly screaming.. ;D i really did the reps conttrolled.
ITS AWESOME PUMP ,,,I LOVE THE OLD SCHOOL PICS WITH 25 LB PLATE ,,,10 AND A 5 I'M HURTING,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 18, 2013, 06:30:30 AM
ITS AWESOME PUMP ,,,I LOVE THE OLD SCHOOL PICS WITH 25 LB PLATE ,,,10 AND A 5 I'M HURTING,,,
yes...you know i find the cable side lateral you do very intresting.. yes i can picture that... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2013, 06:52:07 AM
yes...you know i find the cable side lateral you do very intresting.. yes i can picture that... ;)
CAN BE DONE WITH DUMBELL TO HOLD IT TO SIDE OR PELVIC AREA INSTEAD HAVING DUMBELL GO UP KNUCKLES UP ITS DUMBELL TOP FINISHES FACING UP KNUCKLE FACES FOWARD.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 18, 2013, 09:41:31 AM
was just out running ...my ears are freezing..i was wearing a hat too
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 18, 2013, 09:15:04 PM
Trained abs.  Not really enjoying training abs, probably due to the fact that I feel as though I can't go all out for fear of "the nose".  But I have decided that anything is better than nothing and the past couple of days my nose has felt and looked pretty good and I feel as though the swelling is somewhat lessening and I can see light at the end of the tunnel.

Situps x 5 sets 15 reps per set
Reverse crunches x 3 sets (didn't do many as felt alot of pressure in nose)
Crunches x 5 sets 30 reps per set
Weighted crunches x 3 sets 10 reps only, ears started popping so stopped
Weighted side bends x 3 sets 10 reps each side with light weight (10kg)


I am going to post a pic up.  This shows where I am at, currently.  My goal is to reduce bodyfat and bring up the width of my shoulders, back and I want leaner harder arms.  Since I began training again after this surgery I gained 2.2 kg which I believe to be is muscle that I had lost when I wasn't training consistantly due to my sinus blockage etc.  It's just muscle memory.  I know it's not fat as I have been eating pretty clean and doing cardio and I just know my body...that it has gone to my back mostly, possibly other bodyparts as well but I can mostly see it in my back.  I am not pumped or posing in pic, it's just a standing pic.  I will take a progress pic again in a few weeks time.  This will motivate me to achieve my goals since I have to beat this pic now..haha 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 19, 2013, 12:01:26 AM
You are a nice looking woman booty, I was expecting to see your face all bruised to hell with a couple of bandages on your nose,  :D

 I like those weighted sit ups, I`m good for 10 x 3 and then everything gets blurry.

 If I can get the mrs to take a pic of me in a good light I will post one as well, I could use the motivation. Work has been rough and we probably have 2 more weeks like that before it settles back down to a normal schedule. I have been getting plenty of exercise just not the kind I want.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 19, 2013, 01:30:26 AM
You are a nice looking woman booty, I was expecting to see your face all bruised to hell with a couple of bandages on your nose,  :D

 I like those weighted sit ups, I`m good for 10 x 3 and then everything gets blurry.

 If I can get the mrs to take a pic of me in a good light I will post one as well, I could use the motivation. Work has been rough and we probably have 2 more weeks like that before it settles back down to a normal schedule. I have been getting plenty of exercise just not the kind I want.
Thank you hrspwr1.  I was lucky I didn't get much bruising...just a little under my eyes and that went away at 2 weeks post op.  I haven't been taping my nose when I train for the past week and that's how I know I am getting better because I have less swelling and some feeling coming back to the end of my nose...the knob bit.  Surgeon told me it would take a full year to get all feeling back in it.  I am getting some feeling back now so it's a good sign.   :)
My ab training sucks at the moment and the only thing I enjoyed today was the situps.  I feel as though I need to train harder in that department but am hesitant to do so as fear of getting all swollen.  I want to keep training at the pace that I am as I feel as though I am making progress. 
Yes get your mrs to take a pic and post it, as it will motivate you to train and work harder towards your goals.  It's like you have something to compare to and want to improve on it or rather have to. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 19, 2013, 06:01:09 AM
Today is leg Day...iīm a bit tired and did not sleep well but i will do 3 sets of each ex....
Warn up jumping rope and Abs:
crunches and V-sit ups twisting

Pre-exhaust supersets

leg extension 3x15
Squats          3x10-15

leg curl          3x15
stiff Deads(DB)3x15

seated calf raises 3x15-20
standing(Db)       3x15-20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2013, 09:24:53 AM
look good booty ,,figure is nice,,your goal is set so i'm sure your results will show ,,,did u have deviated septum or combo for cosmetic purpose i'm vain too so its cool if its cosmetic mostly...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2013, 09:35:29 AM
wk goes by quick last sun legs tough its sat so less than wk ago legs again ,,,

quads
squat 135 x15,225 x12,315 x10,365 x10,405 x9,,,
leg press 5 plates x12,6 plates x12,7 plates x 10 gassed,,,
lunges a bit different old school of rack step back then 1 leg foward back then other leg sets 12 steps 135,185 lbs,,,
extensions 235 x15,245 x12,250 x11

heaviest sets squat and leg press slight knee wraps and belt for squat,,,,

hams stiff legged deadlift usually do leg curl only sdl's today
135 x12.185 x10,230 x1o,230 x10

calfs seated calf raise 4 sets 20/12/12/12/  3 plates then 3 sets 3 plates and 25....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 19, 2013, 03:36:33 PM
look good booty ,,figure is nice,,your goal is set so i'm sure your results will show ,,,did u have deviated septum or combo for cosmetic purpose i'm vain too so its cool if its cosmetic mostly...
Thank you njflex.  I am very focused on my goals and I enjoy the discipline and routine that bodybuilding/sculpturing brings me.  I know what I need to do and I will do it.  This is the worst out of shape that I have been in years due to the fact that I couldn't be consistant with my training last year due to sinus infections.  I don't know if I had a deviated septum...I never had an issue with my nose, how it looked.  When I told a friend recently about my nose op his reply was "I never noticed anything with your nose".  He said he never had an issue with my nose.  It was an ex who said this btw.  The bridge of my nose went off to the side slightly at the end towards the knob and this meant that it was cutting off airflow and when I got sick mucus wasn't able to drain properly.  So when I saw the surgeon he told me he could clean out my nose but it was possible that it could return and I would get a sinus blockage in the future. So I decided to get the septum straightened perfectly to allow the best flow of air etc as I believe in prevention and what I went through for 16 months I never want to go through again.  So I though to myself if I was going to go under for an operation I might as well do it all at once..make sure this never happens again. 
I would have no problem admitting if I had it done for vanity reasons as I don't see anything wrong with it, if it makes a person really happy but I had it done for medical reasons.  I don't think my nose looks that different, it's still the same size..the knob is the same the only difference is I have a nicer profile and thats about it.   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 19, 2013, 09:40:21 PM
Back.


One arm db rowes x 6 sets
seated cable rowes x 4 sets
lat pulldowns to the front x 4 sets
back extensions x 3 sets


90 mins brisk walking outdoors.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Roger Bacon on January 19, 2013, 10:42:02 PM
Trained abs.  Not really enjoying training abs, probably due to the fact that I feel as though I can't go all out for fear of "the nose".  But I have decided that anything is better than nothing and the past couple of days my nose has felt and looked pretty good and I feel as though the swelling is somewhat lessening and I can see light at the end of the tunnel.

Situps x 5 sets 15 reps per set
Reverse crunches x 3 sets (didn't do many as felt alot of pressure in nose)
Crunches x 5 sets 30 reps per set
Weighted crunches x 3 sets 10 reps only, ears started popping so stopped
Weighted side bends x 3 sets 10 reps each side with light weight (10kg)


I am going to post a pic up.  This shows where I am at, currently.  My goal is to reduce bodyfat and bring up the width of my shoulders, back and I want leaner harder arms.  Since I began training again after this surgery I gained 2.2 kg which I believe to be is muscle that I had lost when I wasn't training consistantly due to my sinus blockage etc.  It's just muscle memory.  I know it's not fat as I have been eating pretty clean and doing cardio and I just know my body...that it has gone to my back mostly, possibly other bodyparts as well but I can mostly see it in my back.  I am not pumped or posing in pic, it's just a standing pic.  I will take a progress pic again in a few weeks time.  This will motivate me to achieve my goals since I have to beat this pic now..haha 

camel toe  :P  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 20, 2013, 03:00:29 AM
Back.


One arm db rowes x 6 sets
seated cable rowes x 4 sets
lat pulldowns to the front x 4 sets
back extensions x 3 sets


90 mins brisk walking outdoors.
90 mins is great... bet you felt tired but refreshed after that.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 20, 2013, 03:38:04 AM
90 mins is great... bet you felt tired but refreshed after that.
The only thing I felt was relief to get out of the heat.  I am a bit naughty in the fact that I come in from the heat and into my air conditioned bedroom.   :P  That's like pure heaven.  But actually I wasn't as tired, I felt fitter today.  Had a great back workout too earlier and got a good pump.  I feel like it's just on and upwards from here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 20, 2013, 03:59:25 AM
The only thing I felt was relief to get out of the heat.  I am a bit naughty in the fact that I come in from the heat and into my air conditioned bedroom.   :P  That's like pure heaven.  But actually I wasn't as tired, I felt fitter today.  Had a great back workout too earlier and got a good pump.  I feel like it's just on and upwards from here.
YEAH...think positive ;D I will go for a run tonight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2013, 07:50:22 AM
went back to the booty pic,,curvy and don't know age but very nice,,,she trains ,,,booty do use trainer or train alone and own program.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 20, 2013, 09:52:01 AM
that was a cold 40 min run tonight.. running up hill against an icy wind... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 20, 2013, 04:09:15 PM
went back to the booty pic,,curvy and don't know age but very nice,,,she trains ,,,booty do use trainer or train alone and own program.
Thank you njflex and I am 43 years of age.  Definitely belong in the over 40 group...hence the mature thread.   ;D  I don't use a trainer and I train alone as I have had training partners over the years but I prefer to train alone and just grab a spotter when I need one.  I do my own programme and to be honest It would probably benefit me for someone else to give me a progamme as I need help in bringing up my arms. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 20, 2013, 04:13:15 PM
that was a cold 40 min run tonight.. running up hill against an icy wind... ;D
Oh god, sounds like heaven running up against an icy wind.   ;D  When I walk it's like  I am in one of those butterfly enclosures at the zoo..that's the temp I am in. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2013, 06:51:59 PM
couple new pics of legs i always post my leg workouts and hit all angles and train them hard and heavy .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 20, 2013, 09:40:30 PM
you look strong flex. I had the mrs take some pics of me today and I look like shit, working on it. Ran 2 miles as fast as I could this AM then lift - bench 3x10 light sets, 3x5 heavy, bb rows 3x8, clean and press 3x7, ez curl 3x10, hammer curl 3x10, then did 30 minutes on the heavy bag waited 3 hours and another 20 minutes on the heavy bag. This was the first day this week I didn`t feel like crap and wanted to get a good workout or two in before work cranks back up tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 20, 2013, 09:45:14 PM
hit all angles and train them hard and heavy .
And it shows!  Really good legs there njflex.  Your quads, hams and calves are all in proportion and you have some good thickness to them. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 20, 2013, 09:47:26 PM
you look strong flex. I had the mrs take some pics of me today and I look like shit, working on it. Ran 2 miles as fast as I could this AM then lift - bench 3x10 light sets, 3x5 heavy, bb rows 3x8, clean and press 3x7, ez curl 3x10, hammer curl 3x10, then did 30 minutes on the heavy bag waited 3 hours and another 20 minutes on the heavy bag. This was the first day this week I didn`t feel like crap and wanted to get a good workout or two in before work cranks back up tomorrow.
Don't worry about it, at least you have something to look back on to compare to as you make progress.  Good work out and it would be hard going at the bag for 30 mins and then another 20 mins...great cardio.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 20, 2013, 09:49:33 PM
Chest, delts.

Incline db presses x 5 sets
flye machine x 4 sets
seated db shoulder presses x 4 sets
seated lateral raises x 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 21, 2013, 03:44:12 AM
And it shows!  Really good legs there njflex.  Your quads, hams and calves are all in proportion and you have some good thickness to them. 
i agree he has a really  dense physique.. quality muscle and no blubber.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 21, 2013, 04:05:07 AM
you look strong flex. I had the mrs take some pics of me today and I look like shit, working on it. Ran 2 miles as fast as I could this AM then lift - bench 3x10 light sets, 3x5 heavy, bb rows 3x8, clean and press 3x7, ez curl 3x10, hammer curl 3x10, then did 30 minutes on the heavy bag waited 3 hours and another 20 minutes on the heavy bag. This was the first day this week I didn`t feel like crap and wanted to get a good workout or two in before work cranks back up tomorrow.
stick with it..i went through a bad illness too in my life and you will make it. great support here. Today is chest day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 21, 2013, 05:29:11 AM
I REALLY HAVE ENJOYED THIS THREAD I READ IT EVERYDAY AND TRY TO ADD SOMETHING,,ME AND DONNY GO BACK AND FORTH ON OTHER THREADS AS WELL,HE'S COOL PEOPLE,,I LIKE BOOTY HERE TOO SHE IS BETTER HERE THAN OTHER BOARD PARTS WHERE THE WOLVES ARE OUT,BUT SHE CAN TAKE CARE OF 'HERSELF'NO DOUBT.....OTHER THAN BACK MY LEGS WHEN I TRAIN THEM PEOPLE SHAKE THERE HEADS WHEN I SQUAT OR VOLUME AND PYRAMIDING WEIGHT EACH SET WITH NO FATIGUE.ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER HERE ON MY OTHER PIC THREAD REFERS TO ME AS'HORSE LEGS'LOL...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 21, 2013, 07:27:21 AM
I REALLY HAVE ENJOYED THIS THREAD I READ IT EVERYDAY AND TRY TO ADD SOMETHING,,ME AND DONNY GO BACK AND FORTH ON OTHER THREADS AS WELL,HE'S COOL PEOPLE,,I LIKE BOOTY HERE TOO SHE IS BETTER HERE THAN OTHER BOARD PARTS WHERE THE WOLVES ARE OUT,BUT SHE CAN TAKE CARE OF 'HERSELF'NO DOUBT.....OTHER THAN BACK MY LEGS WHEN I TRAIN THEM PEOPLE SHAKE THERE HEADS WHEN I SQUAT OR VOLUME AND PYRAMIDING WEIGHT EACH SET WITH NO FATIGUE.ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER HERE ON MY OTHER PIC THREAD REFERS TO ME AS'HORSE LEGS'LOL...
Thanks man... ;D  yes there are some great people on here and i like my daily dose of getbig. Wife has my car so i have to go now on my moutain bike and itīs snowed fairly deep again...oh well suppose iīll get a good workout. so i did chest today::

Flat Barbell press 4x8
Flat flyes 3x12
Incline Dumbbell press 4x10
Incline flyes 3x12
Max push ups 2x sets to failure

Abs: hanging knee raise 3x 25
       Incline sit ups 3x 20 (small movement to hit the sweet spot)

so my Friends this is Donald(Duck) signing out till later.... :-*
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 21, 2013, 07:50:17 AM
Thanks man... ;D  yes there are some great people on here and i like my daily dose of getbig. Wife has my car so i have to go now on my moutain bike and itīs snowed fairly deep again...oh well suppose iīll get a good workout. so i did chest today::

Flat Barbell press 4x8
Flat flyes 3x12
Incline Dumbbell press 4x10
Incline flyes 3x12
Max push ups 2x sets to failure

Abs: hanging knee raise 3x 25
       Incline sit ups 3x 20 (small movement to hit the sweet spot)

so my Friends this is Donald(Duck) signing out till later.... :-*
NICE,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 21, 2013, 09:16:11 AM
THANKS FOR ALL THE POSITIVE COMMENTS ,, I LIKE THIS THREAD AND IT'S JUST NOT COMING HERE FISHING FOR COMPLIMENTS,IT'S MORE THAN THAT. IT'S HERE TO SHOW THAT OVER 40 REALLY IS THE NEW 30 ,OVER 50 IS THE NEW 40..ECT..TRAINING IS STILL DEPENDING ON YOUR MAKEUP JUST AS INTENSE,FUN,DIETING ,KEEPING ONESELF AS CLOSE TO BEST OR EVEN FOR SOME SURPASSING THERE BEST.SO FAR DONNY HAS KEPT IT GOING,BOOTY,PRIME,HORSEPOWER1,MYSELF HAVE ADDED OUR CLOSE TO DAILY REGIMINE TO DISCUSS,,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 21, 2013, 10:26:09 AM
yes everyone makes it great..the Mature thread is also tranquility...peace and respect for everyone !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 21, 2013, 03:19:51 PM
I REALLY HAVE ENJOYED THIS THREAD I READ IT EVERYDAY AND TRY TO ADD SOMETHING,,ME AND DONNY GO BACK AND FORTH ON OTHER THREADS AS WELL,HE'S COOL PEOPLE,,I LIKE BOOTY HERE TOO SHE IS BETTER HERE THAN OTHER BOARD PARTS WHERE THE WOLVES ARE OUT,BUT SHE CAN TAKE CARE OF 'HERSELF'NO DOUBT.....OTHER THAN BACK MY LEGS WHEN I TRAIN THEM PEOPLE SHAKE THERE HEADS WHEN I SQUAT OR VOLUME AND PYRAMIDING WEIGHT EACH SET WITH NO FATIGUE.ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER HERE ON MY OTHER PIC THREAD REFERS TO ME AS'HORSE LEGS'LOL...
I really enjoy this thread too and I always check it every single day.  It's my fav thread on getbig because here we can all chill, discuss our training and sometimes follow with some banter.  We are all here to motivate each other and help one another.  It's a tight good little group.  Sending love to you guys from the ocean.   ;D  Thank you for making it a great thread. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 21, 2013, 07:28:24 PM
chest
fdb press 60 x12,70x12,80x10 85x8,65x10
smith inc x3 and last set drop with slow down full squeeze to top.
hammer low mid press 2 sets 2 plates and 25 x10,3rd set same weight drop to 2 plates and go single arm 6 reps per arm..
cable crossovers
dips x2

tris
pushdowns 15,12,10,10
rope overhead extensions x3
reverse grip pusdown x3
dip machine 2 x12...

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 21, 2013, 07:57:05 PM
I've got to train bis and tris today and I am bored thinking about it.  I need to mix it up as it feels as though I do the same thing all the time when it comes to arms.  I will go to gym soon and then post up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 21, 2013, 08:39:37 PM
Thanks man... ;D  yes there are some great people on here and i like my daily dose of getbig. Wife has my car so i have to go now on my moutain bike and itīs snowed fairly deep again...oh well suppose iīll get a good workout. so i did chest today::

Flat Barbell press 4x8
Flat flyes 3x12
Incline Dumbbell press 4x10
Incline flyes 3x12
Max push ups 2x sets to failure

Abs: hanging knee raise 3x 25
       Incline sit ups 3x 20 (small movement to hit the sweet spot)

so my Friends this is Donald(Duck) signing out till later.... :-*

On one hand, it is a bummer only having one car, but on the other hand, you had to pedal you mountain bike through the snow. How does that work anyway?

Here it is Monday, the first workout day of the week and I had to attend a board meeting (I'm the chair, so I can hardly get out of it). Anyway the meeting lasted longer than usual. By the time I got back to West Linn, it was nearly dinner time. Once I have dinner, I'm done. My best time to work out is around 2:00 p.m. I am not a morning person at all, so mornings are out. When I worked, my shift ended at 2:30 p.m. I could be at the gym before 3:00 p.m. and home before 5:00 p.m. I need to work this system into my current schedule.

My wife fixed deep fried chicken with tater tots and peas for dinner. I know fried food isn't on most fitness buff's diets, but she got the fat hot enough that nothing was the least bit oily. Anyway, being fit is my thing and not so much hers.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 21, 2013, 08:51:22 PM
I've got to train bis and tris today and I am bored thinking about it.  I need to mix it up as it feels as though I do the same thing all the time when it comes to arms.  I will go to gym soon and then post up.

Do some opposing super sets, 21's or drop sets then get the fuck outtathere!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 21, 2013, 09:47:32 PM
Do some opposing super sets, 21's or drop sets then get the fuck outtathere!
I wish I had seen this before I went to gym Alex.  Anyway good advice, I will use it next time.  So I didn't do much volumn today as it felt as though I was going through the motions...wasn't really into it.  I tried to do a standing over head tricep extension but it hurt my elbows and they started clicking so I stopped it after 8 reps. 

tris, bis


Tricep pressdowns V bar x 5 sets
db standing over head tricep extensions x 1 set
rope pressdowns x 3 sets
Ezy bar curls x 3 sets
straight bar curls x 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2013, 02:10:33 AM
Do some opposing super sets, 21's or drop sets then get the fuck outtathere!
YES !!!  SUPERSET feel the pain.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2013, 02:17:14 AM
On one hand, it is a bummer only having one car, but on the other hand, you had to pedal you mountain bike through the snow. How does that work anyway?

Here it is Monday, the first workout day of the week and I had to attend a board meeting (I'm the chair, so I can hardly get out of it). Anyway the meeting lasted longer than usual. By the time I got back to West Linn, it was nearly dinner time. Once I have dinner, I'm done. My best time to work out is around 2:00 p.m. I am not a morning person at all, so mornings are out. When I worked, my shift ended at 2:30 p.m. I could be at the gym before 3:00 p.m. and home before 5:00 p.m. I need to work this system into my current schedule.

My wife fixed deep fried chicken with tater tots and peas for dinner. I know fried food isn't on most fitness buff's diets, but she got the fat hot enough that nothing was the least bit oily. Anyway, being fit is my thing and not so much hers.
well the Germans being efficient people have great cycle paths and clear them fast. The snow was deep but not so deep you could not cycle but it was much harder. I just had to watch the down hill cycling as it was a bit tricky. Prime you sound like you have a great wife who looks after you.. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 22, 2013, 04:30:25 AM
well the Germans being efficient people have great cycle paths and clear them fast. The snow was deep but not so deep you could not cycle but it was much harder. I just had to watch the down hill cycling as it was a bit tricky. Prime you sound like you have a great wife who looks after you.. ;)

The paths and roads are perfectly clean.  I always love seeing these pics Donny.  I dream about being in the snow.   ;D
x 2 in regards to Primes wife taking good care of him, although he still needs to step into the gym as he has been planning to do.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2013, 05:02:53 AM
yes where i live itīs a dreamy little town...lots of old buildings...

Today was Back:
skipping to warm up:

Parallel grip chin ups 3x max
Barbell Rows 3x 10 Overhand Grip
Barbell Rows  3x10  Underhand grip
Barbell Deadlifts 3x10
Dumbbell shrugs 3x12

Standing calf raises holding 2 Dumbbells 4x 20 .. had to use straps my lower arms were burning.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2013, 05:05:14 AM
trying to type and phone at the same time...lol
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Post by: Donny on January 22, 2013, 05:50:42 AM
another one for karen....
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Post by: AVBG on January 22, 2013, 04:40:45 PM
yes where i live itīs a dreamy little town...lots of old buildings...

Today was Back:
skipping to warm up:

Parallel grip chin ups 3x max
Barbell Rows 3x 10 Overhand Grip
Barbell Rows  3x10  Underhand grip
Barbell Deadlifts 3x10
Dumbbell shrugs 3x12

Standing calf raises holding 2 Dumbbells 4x 20 .. had to use straps my lower arms were burning.



Good workout Donny
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Post by: booty on January 22, 2013, 04:59:04 PM
another one for karen....

Very pretty.   :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2013, 05:18:02 PM
Good workout Donny
Thank you very much  ;D
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Post by: Donny on January 22, 2013, 05:20:24 PM
Very pretty.   :)
i will make more pics Karen  ;) when i run tonight.
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Post by: AVBG on January 22, 2013, 05:23:34 PM
Thank you very much  ;D

Lol.. I don't get the use of the smiley as I wasn't being sarcastic?

 Your workout was solid, good choice of exercises and good amount of volume/rep range.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2013, 05:27:43 PM
no .. i always use the smile thing. I liked your comments
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2013, 05:29:17 PM
Lol.. I don't get the use of the smiley as I wasn't being sarcastic?

 Your workout was solid, good choice of exercises and good amount of volume/rep range.
thank you .. i love Barbell rows
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 22, 2013, 05:35:29 PM
i will make more pics Karen  ;) when i run tonight.
I might take a pic of my house blowing away.  I think there's a cyclone up north and we are now getting the shitty weather.   :D
But yes take pics I love them...I imagine I am burying my nose in all that snow.  Nose delight.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 22, 2013, 05:36:39 PM
Lol.. I don't get the use of the smiley as I wasn't being sarcastic?

 Your workout was solid, good choice of exercises and good amount of volume/rep range.
Alex start posting up your workouts.  And nice to have you in here btw, welcome. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 22, 2013, 05:53:51 PM
well the Germans being efficient people have great cycle paths and clear them fast. The snow was deep but not so deep you could not cycle but it was much harder. I just had to watch the down hill cycling as it was a bit tricky. Prime you sound like you have a great wife who looks after you.. ;)


My son and his family live in Uettingen, Germany. It is a quaint village in Bavaria, which is not far from Wurzburg. He married his German bride 25 years ago. Uettingen is her hometown. We love visiting them, however it is getting more and more expensive and complicated for us to do that between airfare and medical issues/equipment for my wife. She uses oxygen 100% of the time. On the plus side, we never have to worry about logging while we are there.

We look after each other. She is a great wife. Maybe that's the reason we have managed to stay married for 48 years. Of the two of us, she is the better person.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 23, 2013, 03:31:20 AM
My son and his family live in Uettingen, Germany. It is a quaint village in Bavaria, which is not far from Wurzburg. He married his German bride 25 years ago. Uettingen is her hometown. We love visiting them, however it is getting more and more expensive and complicated for us to do that between airfare and medical issues/equipment for my wife. She uses oxygen 100% of the time. On the plus side, we never have to worry about logging while we are there.

We look after each other. She is a great wife. Maybe that's the reason we have managed to stay married for 48 years. Of the two of us, she is the better person.
I remember as a young soldier we used to go skiing in Bavaria and we called it eX Snow Queen( they liked to name everything). we had a ski hut/lodge which the Regiment rented and we lived there. I enjoyed the Down hill skiing but also the Langlauf cross country skiing.. there were routes to follow and we went from Cafe to Cafe and got Drunk on Glühwein ;D. they stopped it after a guy had an accident on the Ski slope, this guy used to just fly down the slopes and shout , "BANZIE".. no joke. the slopes were colour coded to show the difficulty and this Guy was drunk and just went for it on a difficult slope i think it was colour code RED. anyway he broke a leg so the instructor got into trouble( we had our own guys as instructors) and we then had to behave ourselves. Yes Prime..i have good memories of the Girls there too...lots of Rich girls skiing with Mummy and Daddy and they loved to party with us. Great Times.
well Prime i live near HANNOVER and feel free to give me a shout if you are over.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 23, 2013, 04:02:25 AM
was planning to do legs today but i will take today off because i feel it today after my chest+back workouts..good fatigue. I will do an Ab workout and go for a walk tonight to stretch off my legs and lower back and tomorrow i will Squat hard and Pre Exhaust my Quads and Hams. i think you have to listen to your body and take a rest when you need it. This is not being lazy and at 46 i know and feel when i need to take a Day off.My older son is laughing at me now as he is packing his Gym Bag to go and Train...he tells me there are some nice Girls where he trains... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 23, 2013, 04:51:37 AM
donny in germany is it mandatory to do a stint in military?had a guy i worked with stationed in germany loved it,and my training partner who's turkish lived in germany for a bit...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 23, 2013, 05:57:46 AM
donny in germany is it mandatory to do a stint in military?had a guy i worked with stationed in germany loved it,and my training partner who's turkish lived in germany for a bit...
well you know iīm a Scot..and was in the British Army. When i joined it was still the cold war time and a lot of us got sent to BAOR ( British Army of the Rheine). The US Army were more in the South of Germany but i did work with them now and again. My Brother was in Germany too. I served :
1985 till 1989 Royal Artillery
1989 till 1995 Royal Corps of Signals

The Germans did do national service as we used to do years ago in the UK. I think the Germans had to do 9 months service if they got called up, have to ask my Brother in law as he did it..he was in the German Air Force.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 23, 2013, 06:01:05 AM
well you know iīm a Scot..and was in the British Army. When i joined it was still the cold war time and a lot of us got sent to BAOR ( British Army of the Rheine). The US Army were more in the South of Germany but i did work with them now and again. My Brother was in Germany too. I served :
1985 till 1989 Royal Artillery
1989 till 1995 Royal Corps of Signals

The Germans did do national service as we used to do years ago in the UK. I think the Germans had to do 9 months service if they got called up, have to ask my Brother in law as he did it..he was in the German Air Force.
YEAH,,THANKS FOR CLARIFYING....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 23, 2013, 06:01:49 AM
I do not want to show inside but you get this when you leave and tells where you served,how long, medals ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 23, 2013, 09:39:45 AM
well i wimped out tonight i just jumped rope here at home for cardio...still a good workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 24, 2013, 04:31:43 AM
so legs Today.. feeling very full of energy today.
Jump rope warm up. 10 minutes(1 min skipping 30 secs rest till i reach 10 mins)
Supersets
Leg extensions 3x10-15
Front squat 3x10+

leg curls 3x10-15
Dumbbell lunges 3x10( hit my Hams nice too)
standing one leg calf raises 3x15+ With
jumping rope( this is a great combination which i really enjoy, simple but effective)

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 24, 2013, 04:39:38 AM
so legs Today.. feeling very full of energy today.
Jump rope warm up. 10 minutes(1 min skipping 30 secs rest till i reach 10 mins)
Supersets
Leg extensions 3x10-15
Front squat 3x10+

leg curls 3x10-15
Dumbbell lunges 3x10( hit my Hams nice too)
standing one leg calf raises 3x15+ With
jumping rope( this is a great combination which i really enjoy, simple but effective)


Good workout Donny.  I am hoping to train tomorrow, couldn't today as we have alot of flooding where I am and very strong winds from a cyclone up north.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 24, 2013, 04:45:23 AM
Look after yourself Karen....stay indoors
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Post by: booty on January 24, 2013, 05:04:01 AM
Look after yourself Karen....stay indoors
I am trying to but I had to get food today.  My cats would never leave me alone if I didn't feed them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 24, 2013, 05:13:15 AM
I am trying to but I had to get food today.  My cats would never leave me alone if I didn't feed them.
yeah make sure they get their Kitty cat food... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 24, 2013, 05:19:48 AM
yeah make sure they get their Kitty cat food... ;D
Yes they will turn from domesticated cats into big wild ones.  Plus I wouldn't be able to sleep if I didn't feed them.  It would keep me up all night feeling terrible.  I bought them chicken breast today because I give them that a couple of times a week.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 24, 2013, 05:48:51 AM
Yes they will turn from domesticated cats into big wild ones.  Plus I wouldn't be able to sleep if I didn't feed them.  It would keep me up all night feeling terrible.  I bought them chicken breast today because I give them that a couple of times a week.
chicken breast?? get better fed than me...lol Itīs a bit warmer outside which is good as i will go later out on my bike, still got to wrap up though..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 24, 2013, 09:19:59 AM
BACK
CHINS X3
LOW PULLEY CABLE ROW
TBAR ROW ELEVATED TYPE CHEST TO PAD
FRONT PULLDOWN
CABLE ROPE UPPER SECTION PULL TO FACE HITS UPPER BACK/RHOMBOIDS

WEIGHTED HYPERS

BIS
CURL BAR PRE MADE BAR 80/90/100 ...12/12/10
DB CURLS 35,40,40 DID 6/8 REPS FULL THEN ADDITIONAL 5/6 FROM START POSITION TO MID POINT,,,LIKE THE 1ST PART OF 21'S
STRAIGHT BAR CURL  BAR CLOSE GRIP INSIDE RIGHT BEFORE IT HURTS WRISTS 3X 10/8/8
scott curl machine x2....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on January 24, 2013, 09:27:48 AM
You guys still being mature in here ???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 24, 2013, 09:37:30 AM
You guys still being mature in here ???
TRYING,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 24, 2013, 09:50:41 AM
BACK
CHINS X3
LOW PULLEY CABLE ROW
TBAR ROW ELEVATED TYPE CHEST TO PAD
FRONT PULLDOWN
CABLE ROPE UPPER SECTION PULL TO FACE HITS UPPER BACK/RHOMBOIDS

WEIGHTED HYPERS

BIS
CURL BAR PRE MADE BAR 80/90/100 ...12/12/10
DB CURLS 35,40,40 DID 6/8 REPS FULL THEN ADDITIONAL 5/6 FROM START POSITION TO MID POINT,,,LIKE THE 1ST PART OF 21'S
STRAIGHT BAR CURL  BAR CLOSE GRIP INSIDE RIGHT BEFORE IT HURTS WRISTS 3X 10/8/8
scott curl machine x2....
Intresting Arm workout... the closest grip i use is the inside of an ez bar (if you know what i mean) when doing preacher curls.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 24, 2013, 10:02:50 AM
Intresting Arm workout... the closest grip i use is the inside of an ez bar (if you know what i mean) when doing preacher curls.
depends on the ez bar hurts my wrist,,straight bar is just right..i did wider grip on the premade ez curl bar.im sore from the dumbells full to partial reps..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 24, 2013, 10:03:26 AM
You guys still being mature in here ???
is anyone on getbig... ;D ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 24, 2013, 10:09:34 AM
depends on the ez bar hurts my wrist,,straight bar is just right..i did wider grip on the premade ez curl bar.im sore from the dumbells full to partial reps..
yes i have been experimenting too with a similar thing the 4x4x4 curls. you got to use lighter weight but it works...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 24, 2013, 10:11:25 AM
yes i have been experimenting too with a similar thing the 4x4x4 curls. you got to use lighter weight but it works...
it all works....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 24, 2013, 07:26:12 PM
You guys still being mature in here ???

Always....except when we act immature.  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 25, 2013, 02:02:12 AM
chicken breast?? get better fed than me...lol Itīs a bit warmer outside which is good as i will go later out on my bike, still got to wrap up though..
Yes I find it fills them up and makes them very content.  I do spoil my pets.  Glad it's warmer for you though.   :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 25, 2013, 02:53:54 AM
Yes I find it fills them up and makes them very content.  I do spoil my pets.  Glad it's warmer for you though.   :)
yes i will be going out tonight with a friend for a 1 hour fast walk..he is recovering from a knee and calf injury. He runs marathons and does other extreme cardio events. However now he told me that at 58 he is getting more injuries and really has just started to train serious with weights to prevent more happening. now he will train the muscles with a good intensive programme.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 25, 2013, 03:05:51 AM
you know as i get older myself i think about my training a lot deeper and injuries, does not mean wrap yourself in cotton wool but to know the safer ways to train. Today i have to Double up with Shoulders+Arms due to time constraints this week:

Tri-set
Scott Db shoulder press 4x10 (thanks Monty)
BB front press 4x10
bent over rear delt raises 4x10
Will be a fairly intensive workout and the scott press will make the front press burn like hell.

Barbell curls 3x8-10 superset with
lying ez bar extensions 3x10

parallel bar dips 3xmax superset with
close grip chinning the Bar 3x max

crunches 2-3 sets to failure
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 25, 2013, 05:12:24 AM
yes i will be going out tonight with a friend for a 1 hour fast walk..he is recovering from a knee and calf injury. He runs marathons and does other extreme cardio events. However now he told me that at 58 he is getting more injuries and really has just started to train serious with weights to prevent more happening. now he will train the muscles with a good intensive programme.
Are you doing his programme for him Donny?
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Post by: Donny on January 25, 2013, 05:31:02 AM
Are you doing his programme for him Donny?
he trains in a Gym here and i just gave him a few pointers on his training because he asked me. He told me the trainers at the gym only give a basic overview of exercises on your first visit then you are charged per session.. ???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 25, 2013, 05:39:24 AM
he trains in a Gym here and i just gave him a few pointers on his training because he asked me. He told me the trainers at the gym only give a basic overview of exercises on your first visit then you are charged per session.. ???
It sounds like they take you through the gym, an initiation and then you are on your own.  They expect you to pay for personal training sessions afterwards.  There are gyms like that here.  It's how they get members to pay for pt sessions.  Then there are other gyms and their memberships include programmes.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 25, 2013, 05:45:32 AM
It sounds like they take you through the gym, an initiation and then you are on your own.  They expect you to pay for personal training sessions afterwards.  There are gyms like that here.  It's how they get members to pay for pt sessions.  Then there are other gyms and their memberships include programmes.
yes  and i said to him, use the Adduction/Abduction machine(s) because these are important too and the Gym owner said, "oh no these are only in the Womans training area" ::) so you canīt use them. sorry but i do not agree this is only for women..he has to use the cable apparatus with an ankle strap..works too but not the same.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 25, 2013, 10:33:11 AM
so my Training partner never turned up.. i hate when he does not phone to say he'll not make it.. anyway i had a good run, wrapped up well and really got a good sweat on. It was -11 outside so i kept a good pace going.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 25, 2013, 03:32:46 PM
I did entire back workout comprised only with different chinnig variation... 4x12 wide grip (palm fwd), 4 x10 vbar, 3x failure dhandle & 3x failure (palm facing) mid grip
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 25, 2013, 04:30:11 PM
delts
fr press smith x4
side laterals x3
bent rear laterals lying on bench face down inclined x3
uprights on smith x3
side laterals cable x2 no handle just cable hands at finish facing foward

traps shrugs fr and then 2x rear on smith 10/12 rep sets

calves standing calf raise 3 toe positions 8/8/8 each position 4 x around...

abs

put a new pic all together upper/lower..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 25, 2013, 11:55:34 PM
so my Training partner never turned up.. i hate when he does not phone to say he'll not make it.. anyway i had a good run, wrapped up well and really got a good sweat on. It was -11 outside so i kept a good pace going.
That's rude and unreliable.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 25, 2013, 11:56:34 PM
I did entire back workout comprised only with different chinnig variation... 4x12 wide grip (palm fwd), 4 x10 vbar, 3x failure dhandle & 3x failure (palm facing) mid grip
Good basic hardcore workout Alex.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 25, 2013, 11:57:56 PM
delts
fr press smith x4
side laterals x3
bent rear laterals lying on bench face down inclined x3
uprights on smith x3
side laterals cable x2 no handle just cable hands at finish facing foward

traps shrugs fr and then 2x rear on smith 10/12 rep sets

calves standing calf raise 3 toe positions 8/8/8 each position 4 x around...

abs

put a new pic all together upper/lower..
Looking good!!!!  You are very in proportion.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 26, 2013, 12:03:21 AM
Legs.

Barbell back squats x 5 sets
SLD's x 3 sets
thigh extensions x 6 sets
seated leg curls x 6 sets
seated calf raises x 3 sets

Floods have stopped here and moved down south so i will commence my brisk walking tomorrow.  Just giving it another day to get rid of all the water on the walking track.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 26, 2013, 12:17:42 AM
Good basic hardcore workout Alex.

Thanks.. Just training around a lower back injury
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 26, 2013, 12:32:57 AM
Legs.

Barbell back squats x 5 sets
SLD's x 3 sets
thigh extensions x 6 sets
seated leg curls x 6 sets
seated calf raises x 3 sets

Floods have stopped here and moved down south so i will commence my brisk walking tomorrow.  Just giving it another day to get rid of all the water on the walking track.

The Pacific Northwest is on a warming trend. The good news is that it is warmer here. The bad news is that the rains have returned. I don't know what is better, cold or wet. Wet weather makes me feel colder sometimes then cold weather. I remember the good old days when I rode my bicycle to work in the rain and changed clothes when I got there. Back then,  once I got wet, I just went with it. These days when the only reason to get on my bicycle is for exercise , the decision to ride in the rain becomes harder to make.

I feel like my life is more focused on mental activities lately. I really could give a shit about how fit I look, which is a big change from previous times. Never-the-less, I know that to be mentally fit one must be also physically fit. At 68 years of age, I am thinking I will be around for another ten or fifteen years. I would like to think I have somethings of value to contribute to the world during the remains of my life. Clearly, the healthier I am, the more energy I have to pursue all that interests me.

Long story short, life has once again gotten in the way of me hitting the gym this week. I feel like such a failure. I know i have much to contribute to mature fitness and yet, week after week, I am not doing this. Well, in the words of Scarlet O'Hara in Gone With The Wind, tomorrow is another day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 26, 2013, 02:57:28 AM
I did entire back workout comprised only with different chinnig variation... 4x12 wide grip (palm fwd), 4 x10 vbar, 3x failure dhandle & 3x failure (palm facing) mid grip
Great workout and a good guidline for anyone who is unlucky to get a lower back injury...thanks for posting.
Looking good!!!!  You are very in proportion.
I agree njflex puts in some great regular workouts although working and 2 young Daughters to keep him busy...RESPECT !
Legs.

Barbell back squats x 5 sets
SLD's x 3 sets
thigh extensions x 6 sets
seated leg curls x 6 sets
seated calf raises x 3 sets

Floods have stopped here and moved down south so i will commence my brisk walking tomorrow.  Just giving it another day to get rid of all the water on the walking track.
your leg workout is one i would do too...i like it.

Prime..i was missing you on here.. you are a very likeable man... we hope you are around for at least the next 20 years...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2013, 09:08:11 AM
Looking good!!!!  You are very in proportion.
thank you booty,,,i take the term bodybuilding /physique shaping seriously,,,everything in some sort of order,training,eating,sleep at least 6/7 hrs and i fall asleep within a minute laying down lol,,,my training is consistent and a wide array of exercises.movements,variations,rep schemes,with little rest betwwen sets i go partner goes and back ect,,,,,they vanity is something that is not great in excess trait but you have 1 healthy body given if it lasts at all at any age so why not if you love to take of it take it to the limits it could be,,,now training/eating/rest/take you far and 'natural'i use the term loosley supplements can take u only so farther ,then 'anabolics' are the closing deal to go to edge of the genetic limits breaks it,,,,all said and done if ur lucky to be peaked at 20,30,40 ect,,,thats great.i got lucky so far to achieve that,,,honestly speaking i did use steroids aged 19/23 few cycles nothing crazy but i did use,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 26, 2013, 12:51:19 PM
^ Great mature perspective, particularly when juggling family life and looking good all at the same time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2013, 01:01:20 PM
^ Great mature perspective, particularly when juggling family life and looking good all at the same time.
THANXS SAME TO U AS WELL,AND THIS CREW WHERE GROWING A NICE THREAD ,,DONNY WANTED IT AND STARTED It HE DID GOOD...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 26, 2013, 04:49:08 PM
thank you booty,,,i take the term bodybuilding /physique shaping seriously,,,everything in some sort of order,training,eating,sleep at least 6/7 hrs and i fall asleep within a minute laying down lol,,,my training is consistent and a wide array of exercises.movements,variations,rep schemes,with little rest betwwen sets i go partner goes and back ect,,,,,they vanity is something that is not great in excess trait but you have 1 healthy body given if it lasts at all at any age so why not if you love to take of it take it to the limits it could be,,,now training/eating/rest/take you far and 'natural'i use the term loosley supplements can take u only so farther ,then 'anabolics' are the closing deal to go to edge of the genetic limits breaks it,,,,all said and done if ur lucky to be peaked at 20,30,40 ect,,,thats great.i got lucky so far to achieve that,,,honestly speaking i did use steroids aged 19/23 few cycles nothing crazy but i did use,,,

You are not alone when it comes to steroid use. My doctor prescribed D-bol to help me gain some weight when I was in my late teens and early twenties. Now being a senior citizen, my urologist prescribed testosterone cypionate, which I was taking for a couple of years before I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. Although testosterone does not cause prostate cancer, once you have it, it accelerates the cancer's growth, which is why I stopped taking it. Now that I am cancer free, my doctor will prescribe it again if I decide I want him to. My energy levels were better when I was using the testosterone. Injecting test does get old after awhile even though I have no problem with needles. I was injecting once a week at a rate of .75 ml. This is nothing too drastic.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 26, 2013, 06:01:44 PM
Thanks.. Just training around a lower back injury
Injuries suck.  Hope it heals up quickly.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 26, 2013, 06:05:16 PM
^ Great mature perspective, particularly when juggling family life and looking good all at the same time.

X 2 That's what I love about this thread.  Everyone who posts in here is mature, level headed and is supportive of one another offering good training advice and encouragement.   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2013, 06:20:27 PM
trip down contest lane,,,ages 22,23,27....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2013, 06:23:11 PM
3 more sorry...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 26, 2013, 06:46:43 PM
Omg look at you njflex...wow!  Very impressive, you got conditioning down thats for sure and have a very good Physquie...Great legs!!!  

Edit:  Great everything, I just especially love your legs!   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2013, 06:52:37 PM
Omg look at you njflex...wow!  Very impressive, you got conditioning down thats for sure and have a very good Physquie...Great legs!!!  

Edit:  Great everything, I just especially love your legs!   ;D
those yrs seem like yesterday 91/92/96,,,best yrs in jersey to compete,great fun,,,miss those days booty,,,yeah people always freak out with my legs ...i showed up ripped every show main thing diet,,, hated being under hot lights prejudging tho,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 26, 2013, 07:12:53 PM
those yrs seem like yesterday 91/92/96,,,best yrs in jersey to compete,great fun,,,miss those days booty,,,yeah people always freak out with my legs ...i showed up ripped every show main thing diet,,, hated being under hot lights prejudging tho,,,
The 90's was a great era.  You definitely looked ripped in every pic.  Hot lights suck especially trying to stop the tan from running.  I don't enjoy cramping either.  My calves always get a bit crampy when I competed. 
Change of subject, I think I hurt my ear drum during training legs yesterday.  I was straining and felt something happen in my ears to my jaw.  Anyway last night I had to be careful eating and today my jaw feels much better but I feel sore in my left ear.  My ears are connected to my nose.  I am still going to train today but I might go to my doctor tomorrow if It doesn't feel any better by the morning. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2013, 07:17:20 PM
The 90's was a great era.  You definitely looked ripped in every pic.  Hot lights suck especially trying to stop the tan from running.  I don't enjoy cramping either.  My calves always get a bit crampy when I competed. 
Change of subject, I think I hurt my ear drum during training legs yesterday.  I was straining and felt something happen in my ears to my jaw.  Anyway last night I had to be careful eating and today my jaw feels much better but I feel sore in my left ear.  My ears are connected to my nose.  I am still going to train today but I might go to my doctor tomorrow if It doesn't feel any better by the morning. 
i guess ur pain is tied in,,,,stay positive it will keep u motivated,,if u feel like recovery is not right check w/doctor ...u probably have heard this 'to slow down'but it's difficult cause u love to train,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 26, 2013, 07:20:48 PM
i guess ur pain is tied in,,,,stay positive it will keep u motivated,,if u feel like recovery is not right check w/doctor ...u probably have heard this 'to slow down'but it's difficult cause u love to train,,,
I am feeling positive.  I don't think it's anything serious, just a little uncomfortable.  My strength yesterday in the legs was right up there...I am back to the weights I was lifting and so I couldn't slow down.  Today is chest and since I only train my upper chest since I have implants underneath the muscle it shouldn't affect my ears/nose etc.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2013, 07:25:29 PM
I am feeling positive.  I don't think it's anything serious, just a little uncomfortable.  My strength yesterday in the legs was right up there...I am back to the weights I was lifting and so I couldn't slow down.  Today is chest and since I only train my upper chest since I have implants underneath the muscle it shouldn't affect my ears/nose etc.
i do same thing keep throttle on training wise,,,hate setbacks,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 27, 2013, 01:16:21 AM
I enjoyed reading all the newposts and pictures...great stuff people  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 27, 2013, 01:31:27 AM
Killa build njflex!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 27, 2013, 01:45:03 AM
Great Delts and i like his crazy shaped Abs...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 27, 2013, 06:01:20 AM
 I wish I could get my body to look that good again. I was there in the early 90`s but I let it go.

 I haven`t done shit this week except work from 8am til 7pm everyday. Come home, shower and collapse, and then go do it again. I can see daylight now on this project and should be able to start easing up on the hours by the end of next week, my deadline is Feb 1 to get this factory cleaned and ready so its non negotiable.
 The stress on my body has been rough, my eyeballs have started twitching and I pretty much drove home asleep Friday night.
 I have told my wife its time for a break so after the factory is online I told her we are going to Hawaii for a week. I booked the trip already and we fly out Feb 22nd and stay until March 1st.
 I went for a walk yesterday and pretty much ate a whole pizza last night,  :D, I just want to lift a bit today and maybe go for another walk before its time to start the insanity again tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 27, 2013, 10:13:25 AM
legs today  :P....
warm up extensions sets 12 reps 195,205.230,245,250,,stack type pin model
hack squats 3 plates per side 10,4 x10,5 x10
squat close stance 275 x12,315 x10,315 x10
db walking lunges 2x 50lbers

hams
seated leg curl x3 sets 8-10 195,195,210..
lying leg curl stack type x3 reps 10 140,155,165

calves super set 3x 10 reps per set leg press 3 plates per side then seated calf raise 3 plates ,,,great pump...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 27, 2013, 10:48:24 PM
I've got to post up yesterdays workout and todays.  For those who don't know, we are experiencing big floods in queensland australia and the phone lines, ATM machines and internet was down for almost 24 hours due to a phone line getting taken out in brisbane floods.  I couldn't get online but that's not the worse of it.  Haven't been able to get any money out or get food as its australia long weekened here so its a public holiday today.  No doubt alot of businesses would have been affected with no atm machines working etc.  Three people are dead from the floods...RIP, very sad news.  It's expected to get worse tonight as the river in brisbane peaks around 6pm so hopefully there are no more deaths.

Yesterday trained chest.

Incline db presses x 5 sets
Incline db flyes x 4 sets

Finished off with 20 mins on treadmill.  I wanted to walk outdoors but the high levels of humidity and heat are literally unbearable.  I can't walk outside...will have to wait until the humidity decreases.


Today trained back.

I am feeling a bit drained and flat in energy.  So it was not much volume.

Lat pulldowns to front x 3 sets
Seated pully rowes x 5 sets
back extensions x 3 sets

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 27, 2013, 11:43:29 PM
We've been getting a bit of rain down south but nothing as serious as what's happening up north.

Trained traps/shoulders.

3 sets of db rear lateral raises 8-12 reps (1/2 pyramid)
5 set of db side lateral raises 8-12 reps (last 2 descending strip sets)
4 sets of db shoulder presses 8 reps (weight raised progressively heavier if 8 reps reached in good form).
4 sets of bb upright rows 8 reps
4 sets of db shrugs

30 min recumbent bike steady state cardio -whilst working out and doing the cardio. I got to listen to John Romano on VPX POWER HIT Radio (episode 16) http://www.vpxsports.com/resources/audio-media/vpx-radio/new-power-hit-radio do an informative interview with Christian Duque talking about how Aaron Singerman was lying about some communication he said to have had with Jim Manion. Lol!

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 27, 2013, 11:46:08 PM
We've been getting a bit of rain down south but nothing as serious as what's happening up north.

Trained traps/shoulders.

3 sets of db rear lateral raises 8-12 reps (1/2 pyramid)
5 set of db side lateral raises 8-12 reps (last 2 descending strip sets)
4 sets of db shoulder presses 8 reps (weight raised progressively heavier if 8 reps reached in good form).
4 sets of bb upright rows 8 reps
4 sets of db shrugs

30 min recumbent bike steady state cardio -whilst working out and doing the cardio. I got to listen to John Romano on VPX POWER HIT Radio (episode 16) http://www.vpxsports.com/resources/audio-media/vpx-radio/new-power-hit-radio do an informative interview with Christian Duque talking about how Aaron Singerman was lying about some communication he said to have had with Jim Manion. Lol!


Is that a recent radio show Alex?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 27, 2013, 11:51:02 PM
Is that a recent radio show Alex?

Very recent, you should listen to it, you'll like it - shows yet another person who's been a victim of Singerman's underhanded manoeuvrings.. Start it at around the 40 min mark?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 27, 2013, 11:56:16 PM
Very recent, you should listen to it, you'll like it - shows yet another person who's been a victim of Singerman's underhanded manoeuvrings.. Start it at around the 40 min mark?
I will listen actually.  It's too hot here to walk anyway. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 02:43:18 AM
I just had a power cut a little while ago, so if I am not online again tonight..that's why.  I honestly think I will die tonight if there is no electricity...no air con, no fans even... :(  This heat is sickening, I fucken HATE it!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 04:30:11 AM
well here itīs just snow and wind...
so itīs chest today:
skipping 10 minutes
hanging knee raises on vertical bench 3x20-30
sit ups on small bench 3x20-30

Flat Barbell press 3x6-10
flat DB flyes 3x12+
Incline DB press 3x10
incline DB flyes 3x12+
1-2 sets of max push ups

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 04:53:45 AM
I wish I could get my body to look that good again. I was there in the early 90`s but I let it go.

 I haven`t done shit this week except work from 8am til 7pm everyday. Come home, shower and collapse, and then go do it again. I can see daylight now on this project and should be able to start easing up on the hours by the end of next week, my deadline is Feb 1 to get this factory cleaned and ready so its non negotiable.
 The stress on my body has been rough, my eyeballs have started twitching and I pretty much drove home asleep Friday night.
 I have told my wife its time for a break so after the factory is online I told her we are going to Hawaii for a week. I booked the trip already and we fly out Feb 22nd and stay until March 1st.
 I went for a walk yesterday and pretty much ate a whole pizza last night,  :D, I just want to lift a bit today and maybe go for another walk before its time to start the insanity again tomorrow.
Do not worry about the pizza...LOL i eat one now and again. I think maybe you should look into Abbreviated routines and even ultra abbreviated routines with even only 2 or 3 Basic power moves.
Example taken from Brawn:
Monday: Squat with Parallel Bar Dip
Thursday: partial stiff legged Deadlift with Press
Saturday: Bench press with One_arm DB rows

arm work and calfes can be worked in there. you have a very hard job and so i would be "Efficient" as possible...

We've been getting a bit of rain down south but nothing as serious as what's happening up north.

Trained traps/shoulders.

3 sets of db rear lateral raises 8-12 reps (1/2 pyramid)
5 set of db side lateral raises 8-12 reps (last 2 descending strip sets)
4 sets of db shoulder presses 8 reps (weight raised progressively heavier if 8 reps reached in good form).
4 sets of bb upright rows 8 reps
4 sets of db shrugs

30 min recumbent bike steady state cardio -whilst working out and doing the cardio. I got to listen to John Romano on VPX POWER HIT Radio (episode 16) http://www.vpxsports.com/resources/audio-media/vpx-radio/new-power-hit-radio do an informative interview with Christian Duque talking about how Aaron Singerman was lying about some communication he said to have had with Jim Manion. Lol!


gonna listen to this..hardcore workout like njflex nice volume in there. just upright rows i canīt do..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 28, 2013, 05:33:11 AM
Do not worry about the pizza...LOL i eat one now and again. I think maybe you should look into Abbreviated routines and even ultra abbreviated routines with even only 2 or 3 Basic power moves.
Example taken from Brawn:
Monday: Squat with Parallel Bar Dip
Thursday: partial stiff legged Deadlift with Press
Saturday: Bench press with One_arm DB rows

arm work and calfes can be worked in there. you have a very hard job and so i would be "Efficient" as possible...
 gonna listen to this..hardcore workout like njflex nice volume in there. just upright rows i canīt do..
i like up rights and occassionally with a bar i get some stiffness,so i use smith machine instead or cable version with small bar or i use 2 cable handles to do them  like those the best.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 07:37:44 AM
i like up rights and occassionally with a bar i get some stiffness,so i use smith machine instead or cable version with small bar or i use 2 cable handles to do them  like those the best.
i used to be able to do them but i get a good effect from DB shrugs and DB side raises so i stick with these.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 28, 2013, 04:01:38 PM
I just had a power cut a little while ago, so if I am not online again tonight..that's why.  I honestly think I will die tonight if there is no electricity...no air con, no fans even... :(  This heat is sickening, I fucken HATE it!

Last week we had really cold weather for our area. This week it has really warmed up. Unfortunately, with the warmer weather we also get rain. So it is about 42 degrees Fahrenheit, windy and wet right now. The dogs and I prefer cold and dry to warmer and wet.....but that is what you get when you live in the Pacific Northwest.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 04:08:04 PM
Last week we had really cold weather for our area. This week it has really warmed up. Unfortunately, with the warmer weather we also get rain. So it is about 42 degrees Fahrenheit, windy and wet right now. The dogs and I prefer cold and dry to warmer and wet.....but that is what you get when you live in the Pacific Northwest.
well prime i still want an invite to Dinner !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 28, 2013, 04:17:07 PM
well prime i still want an invite to Dinner !

You got it. Although tonight we are taking it easy with cooking; we are having Marie Callender's chicken pot pies. -Pretty simple fix....freezer to oven to plate to mouth to stomach. Last night my wife fixed a great pork stew. It had orange segments and cranberries in it along with some savory foods like onions and garlic. It was a nice combination of sweet and savory. She served it with white rice and steamed miniature green beans. For desert we had coconut crisps. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 04:28:50 PM
You got it. Although tonight we are taking it easy with cooking; we are having Marie Callender's chicken pot pies. -Pretty simple fix....freezer to oven to plate to mouth to stomach. Last night my wife fixed a great pork stew. It had orange segments and cranberries in it along with some savory foods like onions and garlic. It was a nice combination of sweet and savory. She served it with white rice and steamed miniature green beans. For desert we had coconut crisps. 
if i am ever over there i will give you a shout.. makes me hungry reading it !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 28, 2013, 05:33:54 PM
 Feeling better, made it through a good workout yesterday - bench, bb rows, clean and press, curls & hammer curls. Knocked off work tonight at 5 so I could make it to boxing class and had a real good workout there. Whatever cold/cough I had seems to have finally worked its way out of my system and I have some good energy coming back.
 Being sick and run down is miserable. Making pan seared chicken breast with bbq sauce over romaine lettuce with a little caesar dressing tonight, no more pizza for a while.  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 06:42:26 PM
Feeling better, made it through a good workout yesterday - bench, bb rows, clean and press, curls & hammer curls. Knocked off work tonight at 5 so I could make it to boxing class and had a real good workout there. Whatever cold/cough I had seems to have finally worked its way out of my system and I have some good energy coming back.
 Being sick and run down is miserable. Making pan seared chicken breast with bbq sauce over romaine lettuce with a little caesar dressing tonight, no more pizza for a while.  :D
your workouts are important but your health and well being are the first priority.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 28, 2013, 06:55:00 PM
glad everyone is well here ,,,,

good chest and tri's

inc dbell warmup 45's x2 15 reps...65x12,70x10,80x8
hammer sit up lowchest press 2plate and 25 x10,2 sets 3 plates x10/8
hammer flat 3 sets x10 2 plates per side
flat flyes 50 x10,55 x8,60x8
low cable pull flye x2

tri's donny special triset
dip machine x10,seated extension x10,rope pulldowns x10 ,,3 times around great pump
2x's holding cable ball at end kickbacks x10

abs,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 07:09:13 PM
glad everyone is well here ,,,,

good chest and tri's

inc dbell warmup 45's x2 15 reps...65x12,70x10,80x8
hammer sit up lowchest press 2plate and 25 x10,2 sets 3 plates x10/8
hammer flat 3 sets x10 2 plates per side
flat flyes 50 x10,55 x8,60x8
low cable pull flye x2

tri's donny special triset
dip machine x10,seated extension x10,rope pulldowns x10 ,,3 times around great pump
2x's holding cable ball at end kickbacks x10

abs,,,

my tris would be exhausted after your chest workout..OUTSTANDING
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 07:12:05 PM
Last week we had really cold weather for our area. This week it has really warmed up. Unfortunately, with the warmer weather we also get rain. So it is about 42 degrees Fahrenheit, windy and wet right now. The dogs and I prefer cold and dry to warmer and wet.....but that is what you get when you live in the Pacific Northwest.
I am jealous of your cold weather. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 07:13:43 PM
Feeling better, made it through a good workout yesterday - bench, bb rows, clean and press, curls & hammer curls. Knocked off work tonight at 5 so I could make it to boxing class and had a real good workout there. Whatever cold/cough I had seems to have finally worked its way out of my system and I have some good energy coming back.
 Being sick and run down is miserable. Making pan seared chicken breast with bbq sauce over romaine lettuce with a little caesar dressing tonight, no more pizza for a while.  :D
Good to see that you are in the recovery of your virus/flu/cold and getting back to training with lots of energy.   :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 28, 2013, 07:14:19 PM
I am jealous of your cold weather. 
how ya feeling karen,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 07:15:40 PM
how ya feeling karen,,,
x2
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 07:29:26 PM
how ya feeling karen,,,
I think my ear is a bit better.  It still feels weird though but I have managed to train without it getting worse.  I am just having a issue with this heat.  I had to run around  today with my daughter alot in the car and the heat is unbearable.  I was a ball of sweat.  I really want to walk outside tonight but the heat has been stopping me the past few days but I want to get back to my routine.  I think I might just have to put my water bottle in the freezer and get the water frozen and just do it.  I will probably cry though.  I might jump in the pond around the track and not give a fuck that a croc lives in there.  I think I am getting crazy from this heatwave.  I will take a knife with me like crocodile dundee.   :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 07:31:54 PM
x2
Want to swap countries???  I am starting to dislike australia. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 07:34:17 PM
Want to swap countries???  I am starting to dislike australia. 
I would love to see your country...the Koala bears...ok sounds romantic but i would love to touch a Koala..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 28, 2013, 07:38:38 PM
I think my ear is a bit better.  It still feels weird though but I have managed to train without it getting worse.  I am just having a issue with this heat.  I had to run around  today with my daughter alot in the car and the heat is unbearable.  I was a ball of sweat.  I really want to walk outside tonight but the heat has been stopping me the past few days but I want to get back to my routine.  I think I might just have to put my water bottle in the freezer and get the water frozen and just do it.  I will probably cry though.  I might jump in the pond around the track and not give a fuck that a croc lives in there.  I think I am getting crazy from this heatwave.  I will take a knife with me like crocodile dundee.   :D
wow,,is it bothering you due to operation or in general discomfort?is it normal this time of year,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 28, 2013, 07:40:18 PM
I would love to see your country...the Koala bears...ok sounds romantic but i would love to touch a Koala..

Lol.. Booty lives in a pretty wild part of the country (far north queensland) where theres warm weather year round and extremely tropical/stormy at this time of the year which lends itself to the kinda places Crocs hangout. Koalas are found more or less all over the country except obviously in the centre of the big cities and built up suburbia.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 07:45:46 PM
Lol.. Booty lives in a pretty wild part of the country (far north queensland) where theres warm weather year round and extremely tropical/stormy at this time of the year which lends itself to the kinda places Crocs hangout. Koalas are found more or less all over the country except obviously in the centre of the big cities and built up suburbia.
Yes it's wild up here Alex.  I can pretty much handle the wildlife and getting up to baby snakes in my kitchen is pretty much the norm now...so much that the last one I saved and put back in the garden.  I couldn't believe that the snake actually pretended to play dead when I touched it.  I felt sorry for it and ended saving the little guy.  I must be going soft.   :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 07:46:01 PM
Lol.. Booty lives in a pretty wild part of the country (far north queensland) where theres warm weather year round and extremely tropical/stormy at this time of the year which lends itself to the kinda places Crocs hangout. Koalas are found more or less all over the country except obviously in the centre of the big cities and built up suburbia.
the Australians i met i liked..really sound guys. Donīt want to meet a crock...but the Koala Bears and other stuff...Kangaroos i want to touch and see. Of course living there is not so romantic as my thoughts but still..i like Aussies
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 07:47:47 PM
I would love to see your country...the Koala bears...ok sounds romantic but i would love to touch a Koala..
Here's a picture that my friend took when she was driving back from work which was about 15 mins out of town. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 07:51:49 PM
wow,,is it bothering you due to operation or in general discomfort?is it normal this time of year,,,
Remember how I said that I hurt it during my leg workout the other day?  My ears are connected to my nose...I think I over strained or something and hurt something in there.  It's not an ear ache but a different kind of discomfort.  And yes this weather and heat is normal for this time of the year, although this year aussie has had some of the highest recorded heat waves ever. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 07:52:18 PM
look nice but i bet they bite...still i always liked Australians. we had a Sgt Maj from the Australian Army come to us...great guy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 07:56:24 PM
look nice but i bet they bite...still i always liked Australians. we had a Sgt Maj from the Australian Army come to us...great guy.
I have never heard of a Koala biting you.  They are always really sleepy from eating gum leaves all day.  They just lay in your arms.  I love koalas they are so sweet and soft to touch.  Nicer than a snake anyday. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 07:58:33 PM
I have never heard of a Koala biting you.  They are always really sleepy from eating gum leaves all day.  They just lay in your arms.  I love koalas they are so sweet and soft to touch.  Nicer than a snake anyday. 
does the gum leaves make them high?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 28, 2013, 08:05:21 PM
I don't think Koalas bite, these days (I am pretty sure) they've stopped allowing people at the zoo from petting them - something them being protected and germs risking their health. Japanese tourists seem to have gotten around that issue by bribing the handlers lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 28, 2013, 08:06:18 PM
does the gum leaves make them high?
yeah it does, they don't drink water either - lazy little shits
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 08:09:29 PM
yeah it does, they don't drink water either - lazy little shits
ha ha..love them  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 08:15:04 PM
so i will have to love you and leave you my friends...itīs bed time here. I will visit Australia...one Day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 08:36:16 PM
does the gum leaves make them high?
Yes it does.  We have birds here also that drink some nector and get drunk and then fall out of trees. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 29, 2013, 12:51:14 AM
Just saw this link concerning the massive internet, atm, phone outage north queensland experienced over the long weekened.  Unbelieveable that people in emergency floods couldn't even call for help because triple O wasn't working. 

http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/telstra-sorry-north-qld-outage-232103041.html
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 05:49:45 AM
Just saw this link concerning the massive internet, atm, phone outage north queensland experienced over the long weekened.  Unbelieveable that people in emergency floods couldn't even call for help because triple O wasn't working. 

http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/telstra-sorry-north-qld-outage-232103041.html
really terrible conditions, the weather around the globe in the last few years is really changing for the worst. keep safe Karen...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 06:02:06 AM
so back today::
as always 10 mins skipping untill i get a light sweat on, 1 min jump rope. 30 secs break till i reach 10 mins.
ABS: Reverse crunch 3x to failure Superset with
Crunches(feet in the air) 3x to failure i will throw in a few twisting..i really do not train my obliques so much.

Sternum chins 3x max
Barbell rows 4x10
Barbell Rows underhand grip 4x10
Deadlifts 4x10
DB shrugs 3x12-15(after the Deads i like to isolate the traps with shrugs)

I might do a couple of sets of DB pullovers depending how it goes...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 09:05:40 AM
so back today::
as always 10 mins skipping untill i get a light sweat on, 1 min jump rope. 30 secs break till i reach 10 mins.
ABS: Reverse crunch 3x to failure Superset with
Crunches(feet in the air) 3x to failure i will throw in a few twisting..i really do not train my obliques so much.

Sternum chins 3x max
Barbell rows 4x10
Barbell Rows underhand grip 4x10
Deadlifts 4x10
DB shrugs 3x12-15(after the Deads i like to isolate the traps with shrugs)

I might do a couple of sets of DB pullovers depending how it goes...
NICE,,,,CLASSIC POWER WORKOUT,,,I LIKE PULLDOWNS.LOTS OF ROWS CABLE,BENT OVER,TBAR ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 09:22:17 AM
this workout really hits my back hard from traps to erectors....simple and effective.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 09:24:08 AM
this workout really hits my back hard from traps to erectors....simple and effective.
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COOL...I LIKE WEIGHTED HYPERS DO THEM EVRY WORKOUT,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 09:35:01 AM
this workout really hits my back hard from traps to erectors....simple and effective.
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COOL...I LIKE WEIGHTED HYPERS DO THEM EVRY WORKOUT,,,
I like them too but i am on the move a lot during the day and i travel from school sport hall to another hall. The club uses school sport halls for diffrent sports and martial arts. when i am in the main building of the club i can use machines and cardio equipment but trouble is i canīt during working hours and afterwards if i train i do not get peace to train because you are always asked things. I got my own equipment a while back when i worked in security and did a lot of nights. I then worked for a private firm doing private functions and fashion shows and such..was fun but point is i have always liked to train when i like and control my time and not have to work around anything.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 10:24:05 AM
I liked this video...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 29, 2013, 12:47:07 PM
Chest/abs

4 sets of 30 degree incline bb presses 20-8 reps (1/2 pyramid)
4 sets of flat bb press 12-8 reps (1/2 pyramid)
4 (super)sets vbar dips/db pullovers (to failure)

4 (super)sets of leg raises/incline crunches 25 reps

30 min recumbent bike steady state cardio
15 mins HIT jump rope intervals
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 01:04:35 PM
Chest/abs

4 sets of 30 degree incline bb presses 20-8 reps (1/2 pyramid)
4 sets of flat bb press 12-8 reps (1/2 pyramid)
4 (super)sets vbar dips/db pullovers (to failure)

4 (super)sets of leg raises/incline crunches 25 reps

30 min recumbent bike steady state cardio
15 mins HIT jump rope intervals
nice,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 01:35:56 PM
Chest/abs

4 sets of 30 degree incline bb presses 20-8 reps (1/2 pyramid)
4 sets of flat bb press 12-8 reps (1/2 pyramid)
4 (super)sets vbar dips/db pullovers (to failure)

4 (super)sets of leg raises/incline crunches 25 reps

30 min recumbent bike steady state cardio
15 mins HIT jump rope intervals
i like the superset of V bar dips and pullovers...intense.  your cardio is very hard too.. 30 mins then 15 mins HIT jumping rope..a real pro. nice intensity because i have always believed that Bodybuilders should also be cardio fit and be ..yes athletic and not so big that you canīt function normally. Frank Zane... a man who brought zen to Bodybuilding.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 01:44:34 PM
I am a firm believer in combining zen and Bodybuilding. I take this too from my Martial Arts background but i like Frank Zanes Intelligence and philosophy
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 03:57:07 PM
I am a firm believer in combining zen and Bodybuilding. I take this too from my Martial Arts background but i like Frank Zanes Intelligence and philosophy
i love zane's approach,and ways as well,,he knew how to pose to his strenghts ,today guys hit a few most muscular's and arm poses wave to crowd to bring it on then more of the same poses.for a big man dorian yates has some cool poses and transitions ,,he stomped his leg down on rear poses and front arm pose turned his calf out looked like a ham hanging off shin,,,,back to zane great quote 'my body is a piece of clay and as a sculptor dumbell and barbells are the chisel's...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 04:17:32 PM
FRANK ZANE
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 05:10:46 PM
FRANK ZANE

that wasn't even his best...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 29, 2013, 05:23:44 PM
i like the superset of V bar dips and pullovers...intense.  your cardio is very hard too.. 30 mins then 15 mins HIT jumping rope..a real pro. nice intensity because i have always believed that Bodybuilders should also be cardio fit and be ..yes athletic and not so big that you canīt function normally. Frank Zane... a man who brought zen to Bodybuilding.

Thanks! Super sets are a great way to jack intensity, especially when training alone. The cardio IMO is not that hard as I use the 30 mins on the bike to essentially warm up the lower half.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 06:42:06 PM
Thanks! Super sets are a great way to jack intensity, especially when training alone. The cardio IMO is not that hard as I use the 30 mins on the bike to essentially warm up the lower half.
I like to train very fast and supersets i like.. i do them for antagonistic muscles or i just train the same muscle Pre-exhaust style which i really like for legs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 07:26:35 PM
ok, my friend donny asked me to state some examples for arm training, so here i am.

firstly, dont be affraid of overtraining them, even as a natural.

how would you know where the limit is if you didnt try to go full out on them.

ok, first, this one isnt training per se, but do pump them up randomly at home, by flexing, by whatever means necesary.
this helps developing a good feeling to squeeze the muscle, may increase definition(arnold believed so,and i do too btw), and for me,it increased vascularity over time.

second:
traiing back and benchpress is not an arm training.i believe in training arms on their own, a just arms day.i think its better than doing couple half assed sets of arms after benchpress.

i train 1 bodypart at a time,except legs as a whole and arm as a whole on 1day each.

yes, if you destroy your triceps today, your bench or shoulder press will suffer the day after, but this doesnt matter,it will not stop growth.
another thing is to smartly work around intererence of muscle groups.something like day1 chest,day2 leg2,day 3 arms, day4 off, day 5 back, day 6 back.
i dont have particular training plan, i just train the mscle that feels fresh on that particular day, at times im horribly off, but so what.

now, if youre on say back day, do a couple pump sets for triceps anyway.

if youre on chest day, do some biceps sets anyway.

after legs workout, pump your arms up, couple sets to get some bloodflow into them.

now on the arms day itself, do something like this:

-properly warm up

-no cheating on movement, no swinging, except maybe for the last reps on some sets.otherwise stay strict in form.

-do double the amount of sets for triceps compared to biceps.

-dont forget to hit the brachialis muscle, best is reverse grip sz bar curls and hammer curls with dumbells.this will absolutely add either size of definition to the arms, whichever happens,its positive.

-the best exercise for triceps bar none,imho, are french press,resp skullcrushers.do the skullcrushers on INCLINE bench, some 20-30 degree angle, and contrary to what a personal trainer homo would say, do not keep the elbows as close as possible, make yourself comfortable.
use a close grip with sz bar, but keep the elbows outward,not close.
why.this will enable you to use more weight than on flat bench, and put LESS stress on the joints.try and see for yourselves.

-close grip bench press,i dont believe in this exercise.

-dips, these are good.however, theres different forms, if you lean forward, youll rather hit the chest, make sure to be dead straight during all the movement and keep both elbows tightly pressed to your ribs.dont go all the way down, the further down you go on those,the more youll hit the chest muscle.

-dumbell kickbacks are a joke, dont waste your time on those.

-dumbell overhead press is suboptimal,dont waste time on this.

-cable exercises, theyre good, use 1 arm, stand close to the tower,use full range, always always elbow tight to the ribs,and when the 1arm cant do full range anymore, help out with the other for some extra reps.then ofc exchange arms.
always use full motion.
dont lock out the elbows,on none of the exercises.

2arm movements on cable are also good, no doubt.pick your grip and tool you feel comfy with.

now, brachialis ive covered.hammer curls,reverse grip sz curls theres noting to add there.

now for biceps, for sinbgle arm dumbell curls, lock the shoulder out forward,let the whole arm hang, never strectch it fully out, just barely full and use maximum range.

also, for standing curls with bar,sz or olympic bar is choice of preference, always pull back the shoulders all the way,like for benchpress and keep them back firmly, now curl,all the way down.

some 10 sets biceps and 20 for triceps will do.

not every set must be to total failure, alternate between easy weight sets and heavby ones.
as for repetition ranges, try bit of everything betwen 6 and up to 20.

the above is precisely what i do and this has given me the best results in all those years.

ps, be fast paced, in general,on any muscle.not much talking and chitchat on iphone.when you can breathe after previous set, you can train again.

hope this helps 8)
<thank you..very sound advice. I love to hear diffrent aproaches to training and if i can learn a small piece from what i read i will make gains.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 07:28:24 PM
good stuff galineko,,,,,donny knows i like forearms and balance top to bottom tri down on arms,,,old skool side chest too,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 07:37:06 PM
I have small joints and hands... my upper arms are strong but i really suffer with my small hands and wrists
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 07:39:03 PM
I have small joints and hands... my upper arms are strong but i really suffer with my small hands and wrists
i loved the way arnold hit his side chest and nubret/ferrigno..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 07:40:33 PM
Deadlifting and shrugs hit my lower arms hard... like anyone but i really have to concentrate and only use straps when i am very fatigued.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 07:43:35 PM
Deadlifting and shrugs hit my lower arms hard... like anyone but i really have to concentrate and only use straps when i am very fatigued.
i use straps to shrug and heavy back work,,,thats why i throw forearms workouts in ,,i like training them tho,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 07:52:10 PM
i use straps to shrug and heavy back work,,,thats why i throw forearms workouts in ,,i like training them tho,,
well you got great lower arms like mike mentzer or chuck sipes..power is in your grip
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 07:55:31 PM
well you got great lower arms like mike mentzer or chuck sipes..power is in your grip
sipes and mike rip,,,,powerful guys,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 29, 2013, 09:01:46 PM
I'm glad I stumbled onto this thread.. I'm getting some great ideas/variations from you fookers! :-*
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 29, 2013, 11:39:22 PM
I'm glad I stumbled onto this thread.. I'm getting some great ideas/variations from you fookers! :-*
Yes good to have you join us Alex.  I am getting lots of good ideas here also. 

So today I trained delts and did cardio indoors as it's still too hot outside to walk.

Delts.

Db shoulder presses x 4 sets
Upright rowes x 4 sets
db lateral raises x 3 sets

30 mins cardio consisting of 15 mins treadmill and 15 mins bike
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 30, 2013, 04:27:04 AM
nice one Karen...how are things over there with the weather? hope you are keeping safe
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 30, 2013, 04:32:52 AM
nice one Karen...how are things over there with the weather? hope you are keeping safe
I am lucky I live on the coast and even though we had very bad floods a few years ago, lately it seems that floods are occuring inland and so it hasn't happened here.  The floods are 4 hours south of me so the only issue I am having is that my town is low on stock like food and water as the trucks are unable to get up because of roads that are flooded and closed.  I went shopping today and there were many shelves empty. 
I just want this weather to ease up a bit though.  It has been 45 degrees celicus during the day here and around 35 degrees celicus at night. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 30, 2013, 04:43:29 AM
I am lucky I live on the coast and even though we had very bad floods a few years ago, lately it seems that floods are occuring inland and so it hasn't happened here.  The floods are 4 hours south of me so the only issue I am having is that my town is low on stock like food and water as the trucks are unable to get up because of roads that are flooded and closed.  I went shopping today and there were many shelves empty. 
I just want this weather to ease up a bit though.  It has been 45 degrees celicus during the day here and around 35 degrees celicus at night. 
i feel sorry for anyone working in a Manuel job outside...so where you live in in a remote area?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 30, 2013, 05:02:34 AM
i feel sorry for anyone working in a Manuel job outside...so where you live in in a remote area?
Yeah I don't know how some do it.  I know someone who was mowing lawns and threw their job in because of the heat.  I live on the coast in a town half way between Cairns and Brisbane.  It's not in a remote area. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 30, 2013, 06:22:27 AM
Yeah I don't know how some do it.  I know someone who was mowing lawns and threw their job in because of the heat.  I live on the coast in a town half way between Cairns and Brisbane.  It's not in a remote area. 
well itīs a bit warmer here today.. so later i will go for a 1 hour walk and stretch off my legs. I will rest today and hit legs tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 30, 2013, 06:32:11 AM
Yes good to have you join us Alex.  I am getting lots of good ideas here also. 

So today I trained delts and did cardio indoors as it's still too hot outside to walk.

Delts.

Db shoulder presses x 4 sets
Upright rowes x 4 sets
db lateral raises x 3 sets

30 mins cardio consisting of 15 mins treadmill and 15 mins bike
good training karen,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 30, 2013, 10:39:07 AM
well my training tonight never happend...wife phoned me up to tell me she had a small car crash and was going to Hospital for a check up. Lucky she is ok was a little bit under shock but ok. guy in the other car has a bit of whip lash in the neck. well my car is a bit damaged but nothing serious...who cares anyway.. shit happens..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 30, 2013, 10:42:09 AM
well my training tonight never happend...wife phoned me up to tell me she had a small car crash and was going to Hospital for a check up. Lucky she is ok was a little bit under shock but ok. guy in the other car has a bit of whip lash in the neck. well my car is a bit damaged but nothing serious...who cares anyway.. shit happens..
SUCKS,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 30, 2013, 10:45:23 AM
SUCKS,,,
yeah...lucky no one was badly hurt...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 30, 2013, 11:51:08 AM
Back.

5 sets x10 palm fwd chins
5 sets x10 vbar chins
3 sets x12-8 one arm db row (1/2 pyramid)
3 sets x12-8 BB row undergrip (1/2 pyramid)

30 mins recumbent bike steady state cardio (reading GB via iPad & listening to Joe Rogan Experience #319)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 30, 2013, 11:58:19 AM
Back.

5 sets x10 palm fwd chins
5 sets x10 vbar chins
3 sets x12-8 one arm db row (1/2 pyramid)
3 sets x12-8 BB row undergrip (1/2 pyramid)

30 mins recumbent bike steady state cardio (reading GB via iPad & listening to Joe Rogan Experience #319)
NICE,,I HAVE BACK/BI TONITE,,,WHAT KIND OF WEIGHT YOU MOVING IN DB ROW.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 30, 2013, 12:07:56 PM
NICE,,I HAVE BACK/BI TONITE,,,WHAT KIND OF WEIGHT YOU MOVING IN DB ROW.

100-125lb db
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 30, 2013, 12:49:36 PM
100-125lb db
AWESOME,,,I USUALLY FINISH WITH THOSE TOO 2 SETS 10 100LBERS I MIGHT TRY 110'S SEE WHAT I HAVE IN THE TANK...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 30, 2013, 01:16:17 PM
yeah...lucky no one was badly hurt...

That's the most important thing, that no one was badly hurt. I like your attitude, some folks get all stressed out over these kinds of things which eventually happen to almost everyone.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 30, 2013, 04:10:47 PM
yeah...lucky no one was badly hurt...
Glad no one was hurt Donny.  Cars can be replaced, people can't. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 30, 2013, 04:22:08 PM
well my training tonight never happend...wife phoned me up to tell me she had a small car crash and was going to Hospital for a check up. Lucky she is ok was a little bit under shock but ok. guy in the other car has a bit of whip lash in the neck. well my car is a bit damaged but nothing serious...who cares anyway.. shit happens..

Glad it wasn't any worse
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 30, 2013, 07:37:39 PM
great tri galineko,,,

did a change up for back 2 nite supersets trisets
chins x2 x10 with cable low row x2 x10 used 195/210 on the stack and 2x standup tbar row 2plates/2.5 plates 6 sets total...
hammer reverse pulldown x2 x10 2 plates per side then 1 w/extra 10lbs ,,db row 90's x10 x2,,cable rope pull high for upper back x2x10,,6 sets
finished with reverse single arm cable low pull to waist standing slight bend to waist stretch and pull x3...
 weighted hypers

bi's
premade curl camber bar 90/100/110  reps 12/10/10
db curls 40,40,45  6 reps full and six start point to mid portion
close grip curl with reg 45 lb bar..

abs



Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 31, 2013, 02:38:37 AM
Thank you for the kind words everyone...so today i will hit legs...
warm up and Abs:
hanging knee raises 3x20-30
double crunch 2x30-50

Leg extension 3x15 with
leg curls         3x15

Tri-set
Barbell squats 3x10
Barbell hack squats 3x10
Barbell Fronts 3x10
This tri set really taxes you and i do not ever use a heel raise but rely on my ankle flexibility. I do the leg Extensions first superset with leg curls to get my legs warmed up. I will after this do 4x15 calf raises (standing) 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 31, 2013, 04:49:54 AM
great tri galineko,,,

did a change up for back 2 nite supersets trisets
chins x2 x10 with cable low row x2 x10 used 195/210 on the stack and 2x standup tbar row 2plates/2.5 plates 6 sets total...
hammer reverse pulldown x2 x10 2 plates per side then 1 w/extra 10lbs ,,db row 90's x10 x2,,cable rope pull high for upper back x2x10,,6 sets
finished with reverse single arm cable low pull to waist standing slight bend to waist stretch and pull x3...
 weighted hypers

bi's
premade curl camber bar 90/100/110  reps 12/10/10
db curls 40,40,45  6 reps full and six start point to mid portion
close grip curl with reg 45 lb bar..

abs




NICE, always good to change it now and again...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 31, 2013, 05:04:39 AM
NICE, always good to change it now and again...
yeah i see your super/triset workouts so i got it driving in TO SWITCH IT UP....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 31, 2013, 06:36:21 AM
yeah i see your super/triset workouts so i got it driving in TO SWITCH IT UP....
yeah shake it up Baby  ;D some great workouts appearing on the thread.. always great to read them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 31, 2013, 06:42:27 AM
yeah shake it up Baby  ;D some great workouts appearing on the thread.. always great to read them.
YEAH BOOTY,MYSELF,AVBG,U,,,SOME GOOD WORKOUTS ,INFO,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 31, 2013, 10:38:31 AM
well my legs are tired so i will rest and not go running and itīs raining hard outside(getting soft in my old age) watch a good film and drink a Bannana milk shake...love it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 31, 2013, 12:13:52 PM
Delts

4 sets (descending/strip sets) x 20-6 reps
4 sets BB military press x 8 reps
4 sets upright rows 135lb (shoulder width grip) supersetted with rear delt raises 30lb reps to failure

3 sets crunches x 25 reps

30 mins recumbent bike steady state whilst reading/viewing vids http://www.mmaroasted.com/ on the iPad
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 31, 2013, 12:27:30 PM
Delts

4 sets (descending/strip sets) x 20-6 reps
4 sets BB military press x 8 reps
4 sets upright rows 135lb (shoulder width grip) supersetted with rear delt raises 30lb reps to failure

3 sets crunches x 25 reps

30 mins recumbent bike steady state whilst reading/viewing vids http://www.mmaroasted.com/ on the iPad

NICE,,,,MY AB WORKOUT TOO...ALSO THROW IN LEG RAISES ON THE ROMAN CHAIR LAST NITE,,,DELTS NICE TOO
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 31, 2013, 12:29:05 PM
NICE,,,,MY AB WORKOUT TOO...ALSO THROW IN LEG RAISES ON THE ROMAN CHAIR LAST NITE,,,DELTS NICE TOO

You can never have too much (legit) side or rear delt!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 31, 2013, 12:41:03 PM
Delts

4 sets (descending/strip sets) x 20-6 reps
4 sets BB military press x 8 reps
4 sets upright rows 135lb (shoulder width grip) supersetted with rear delt raises 30lb reps to failure

3 sets crunches x 25 reps

30 mins recumbent bike steady state whilst reading/viewing vids http://www.mmaroasted.com/ on the iPad

nice work....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 31, 2013, 04:08:26 PM
I didn't train yesterday either.  I felt really dizzy and dipsy (no jokes) all day so I didn't hit the gym.  Managed to piss off two friends because of it though.  My friend the other day wanted to train with me but I didn't want to train when she wanted to and my other friend tried to talk me into going to gym at peak time when I was feeling dizzy.  I told her I was staying home to make tomatoe and lentil soup instead.
Anyway it's a bit cooler here as from yesterday.  There is a bit of a breeze so I will start walking again outdoors.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 31, 2013, 08:02:34 PM
I didn't train yesterday either.  I felt really dizzy and dipsy (no jokes) all day so I didn't hit the gym.  Managed to piss off two friends because of it though.  My friend the other day wanted to train with me but I didn't want to train when she wanted to and my other friend tried to talk me into going to gym at peak time when I was feeling dizzy.  I told her I was staying home to make tomatoe and lentil soup instead.
Anyway it's a bit cooler here as from yesterday.  There is a bit of a breeze so I will start walking again outdoors.
feel better and regroup next day get great workout,,,,

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 31, 2013, 08:06:25 PM
supplements any one use and what?i do protein powder shake or greek yogurt mixed with whey and after training whey w/cheerios or rice chex or some whey with low fat choc icecream 8)...i do multi/creatine pre train only on train days and recently added glycerine powder jury still out get good vascularity pump which i get anyway can't tell if it more tho,,feel little fuller after training pump/look wise use this only on train days..thats it,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 31, 2013, 10:00:12 PM
feel better and regroup next day get great workout,,,,


Yes I think so too, I don't want to have a crappy train.  Today it's boiling hot again, the cooler breeze we had yesterday has been replaced by an intense heat.  I ate something that has seen me in the toilet all day.  I had pancakes for breakfast but because I have been eating so clean, it has gone through me. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 01, 2013, 03:02:42 AM
feel better and regroup next day get great workout,,,,


great advice from nJ...if i feel tired i am not afraid to wait another day and then have a good workout when i am refreshed.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 01, 2013, 03:20:35 AM
so Today i will do a Triset for shoulders and supersets for my arms:
Warm up as normal 10 mins jumping rope.
Double crunches 2x30-50
TRISET:
clean and press(from waist height) 4x10
side laterals 4x12
rear delt raises 4x12

ez bar pullover and press 3x10 with
Barbell curls 3x10
Incline tricep ez bar extensions 3x10 with
Incline DB curls3x10

EZ Bar preacher reverse curls 3x10+ With
Barbell wrist curls 3x10+
I will finish off hanging from my chin bar using a thumbless grip for as long as i can. I decided to hit triceps first today in my supersets as i normally hit biceps first.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 01, 2013, 05:47:54 AM
great advice from nJ...if i feel tired i am not afraid to wait another day and then have a good workout when i am refreshed.
Yes better to listen to your body.  Sometimes I will push myself to train even if I don't feel like it because it's consistancy that gets results.  I will train legs tomorrow and will be fresh and ready to squat till I drop.  I like how it rhymes.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 01, 2013, 07:48:45 AM
starting to get sick of the weather here...itīs raining hard again. I will go out though and get my cardio in..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 01, 2013, 11:00:12 AM
starting to get sick of the weather here...itīs raining hard again. I will go out though and get my cardio in..

It is dry and warmer here for a rare change. This weather is supposed to last through Super Bowl weekend. I have a couple of hundred bulbs to get in the ground for some spring color. Planting these should keep me busy today. I should have planted them months ago, but I didn't. I am not big on working in the garden when it is raining cats and dogs.

I have an all day meeting tomorrow in Salem, OR. Just as I get one thing wound up another pops up. I guess this is better than not having anything to do.

The cooling fan control module on my car has gone tits up. My mechanic has ordered the part which he will install on Monday. Although this will run about $250, it is less than a car payment would be on a new car. My car is now 9 years old. It has 100K miles which is nothing really these days. I guess it is worth maintaining what I have although some of the new cars are really exciting, have more features and get better gas mileage. I took my wife's car in for an oil change yesterday. Her car is 15 years old. She has barely 60K miles on it and it runs like a top. Clearly she doesn't drive that much. Fortunately, she is happy with what she has. This may be one of the reasons I love her, she is so easy to please.

I can't talk about the gym because I am still avoiding it for some reason.

Someone on Getbig recommended Costco brand Salmon patties, which I bought and they are excellent. Last night I made salmon burgers. We had fresh baked hamburger buns from a local bakery, which we toasted. My wife put together a wonderful aioli sauce while I grilled some zucchini and the salmon patties. We assembled the salmon burgers by spreading a layer of aioli sauce on the buns, added the grilled zucchini, the salmon patties and some sliced tomatoes, topping everything with the other half of the bun. It was a pretty messy sandwich to eat, but it was fabulous.

Aioli sauce is made using 1/2 cup mayonnaise, some lemon juice, lemon zest, garlic, chives, salt and pepper. My wife added capers to make it even more tasty. It is good on many things including french fries.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 01, 2013, 11:13:17 AM
prime i got to take my car to the Garage...lucky i am fully covered by my Insurance. I really got to visit you man...you got it good with all that great food ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 01, 2013, 12:27:17 PM
Legs

30 min recumbent bike steady state cardio/warm up.

4 sets unilateral leg extension 20-6reps weight 1/2 pyramid
4 sets lying hamstring x 10 reps @ 100lbs super slow negatives
5 sets barbell squat 25-5 reps 135-365lbs 1/2 pyramid
5 sets Romanian deadlift 135-315lbs 1/2 pyramid

No calf training as they're big mofos  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 01, 2013, 12:52:46 PM
Wow....they are Great calfes ... :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 01, 2013, 02:17:37 PM
avbg sick calves ,,,i thought i had decent ones...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 01, 2013, 02:22:01 PM
Thanks fellas.. njflex you got cows bro  8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 01, 2013, 02:24:01 PM
thurs delt day did a tri set day time and just good pump workout

set 1 group dbpress then side laterals and bent over rear delt laterals... x3 each... 10 reps per movement
set 2 group cable upright row then fr raise with straight bar finish with shrugs x3 each... same reps range 10

forearms rope roll's and reverse wrist curl cable

calves leg press toe press extensions...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 01, 2013, 02:26:01 PM
Thanks fellas.. njflex you got cows bro  8)
thanx still digging ur's tho 8),,,diamond and nice ridge at bottom cut,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 01, 2013, 03:07:57 PM
You Both have Great calfes ....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 01, 2013, 03:34:28 PM
You Both have Great calfes ....
donny ever so the moderator,,, ;D,,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2013, 02:17:25 AM
thurs delt day did a tri set day time and just good pump workout

set 1 group dbpress then side laterals and bent over rear delt laterals... x3 each... 10 reps per movement
set 2 group cable upright row then fr raise with straight bar finish with shrugs x3 each... same reps range 10

forearms rope roll's and reverse wrist curl cable

calves leg press toe press extensions...
a nice fast compact workout njflex...tri-sets are perfect for the shoulders. I do not think you need to hammer the shoulders with massive weights, they get a good workout with dips and other exercises. laterals i like to hit on average about 12 reps and really work the delts.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 02, 2013, 04:59:59 AM
a nice fast compact workout njflex...tri-sets are perfect for the shoulders. I do not think you need to hammer the shoulders with massive weights, they get a good workout with dips and other exercises. laterals i like to hit on average about 12 reps and really work the delts.
u right donny with delts did the whole rest try to go heavy delt thing ,,fast sets hi reps work for me better i think,,took me yrs to figutr into this ,still do regular heavy type day every few traing cycles,still all in all on my sets of db presses i did 60lbers followed by 30 lb laterals and 25's for bent laterals all for 10 so that's not exactly weak as most would feel or deem with supersetting/trisets u lose strenght...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2013, 05:30:07 AM
u right donny with delts did the whole rest try to go heavy delt thing ,,fast sets hi reps work for me better i think,,took me yrs to figutr into this ,still do regular heavy type day every few traing cycles,still all in all on my sets of db presses i did 60lbers followed by 30 lb laterals and 25's for bent laterals all for 10 so that's not exactly weak as most would feel or deem with supersetting/trisets u lose strenght...
yes Brother nj... :) last night i got piss wet through...still i got a run in. Today is sunny and i might get my bike out and cycle to a friend. kill 2 birds with one stone...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 02, 2013, 05:35:16 AM
yes Brother nj... :) last night i got piss wet through...still i got a run in. Today is sunny and i might get my bike out and cycle to a friend. kill 2 birds with one stone...
today is leg day,,,enjoying cup of black italian roast cofee 1 splenda,eggbeaters with red/yell/green/peppers with potatoes and low fat shredded cheese and 2 slices whole grain with flax and oats bread with natural peanut butter,,,i'm kinda in breakfast heaven  :D.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2013, 05:42:27 AM
today is leg day,,,enjoying cup of black italian roast cofee 1 splenda,eggbeaters with red/yell/green/peppers with potatoes and low fat shredded cheese and 2 slices whole grain with flax and oats bread with natural peanut butter,,,i'm kinda in breakfast heaven  :D.
sounds great.. your diet and discipline amaze me..great physique and you are always very polite and act like a Gentleman.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 02, 2013, 05:55:46 AM
sounds great.. your diet and discipline amaze me..great physique and you are always very polite and act like a Gentleman.
thanks man just trying to contribute,little insight into my daily life plan in regard to fitness/training,you really box urself in if u say you'bodybuild'cause stage bodybuilding is temporary stage look that unless your teenager and could eat whatever u want and have abs is not feasible,to maintain 8-10 bodyfat yr round and not compete but have build above and beyond the normal person/normal trained person takes discipline,commitment,design,plan that is carried out not 24/7 cause that's limiting life but enough structure to maintain your achieved goal,,,have to drink wine  8),,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2013, 08:03:58 AM
thanks man just trying to contribute,little insight into my daily life plan in regard to fitness/training,you really box urself in if u say you'bodybuild'cause stage bodybuilding is temporary stage look that unless your teenager and could eat whatever u want and have abs is not feasible,to maintain 8-10 bodyfat yr round and not compete but have build above and beyond the normal person/normal trained person takes discipline,commitment,design,plan that is carried out not 24/7 cause that's limiting life but enough structure to maintain your achieved goal,,,have to drink wine  8),,,,
a little bit of Wine is OK ... ;D ENJOY
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on February 02, 2013, 09:01:33 AM
a nice fast compact workout njflex...tri-sets are perfect for the shoulders. I do not think you need to hammer the shoulders with massive weights, they get a good workout with dips and other exercises. laterals i like to hit on average about 12 reps and really work the delts.
X2!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2013, 10:48:31 AM
How are you Willie?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 02, 2013, 11:39:12 AM
"I just can't get out of the gym workout"

Abs/traps/rear delts

4 sets incline crunches x20 reps
4 sets leg raises x20 reps

4 sets BB shrugs 135-225lb 1/2 pyramid (16-8 reps)
4 sets BB upright rows (narrow grip) 135lbs x10 reps

4 sets db rear delt raises 32lb x10 reps

30mins recumbent bike steady state cardio (listening to Joe Rogan's Shiny Happy Jihad)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 02, 2013, 03:18:20 PM
leg day and i rolled out a tough one today partner is going skiing tommorrow he 's high after this workout it was tough,,,
extensions the stack goes to 295 we did 4 sets 12 reps and hit 270 final set
leg press we worked 'hi reps to low' started 5 platesx15,6 platesx12,6.5 plates x10,7 x8
did hack squat opposite' low reps to hi' this was brutal,,5.5 plates x10,4.5 x12,3.5 x15,2.5 x20
walking dumbell lunges 15 steps per leg 50 lb's dumbell's

hams
stiff legged deadlifts 135 x12,185x10.235 x10.255 x10

calves
leg press 3 plates x15,3.5 x12,4 plates x12
standing calf raise toes pointed in 3x12
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2013, 03:46:07 PM
Nj...that is pure intensity.....I hate writing from my phone ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 02, 2013, 03:48:03 PM
Nj...that is pure intensity.....I hate writing from my phone ...
lol,,,,donny it was painful the pump ,,the weights/reps used was crazy,, i mean people max out for 6/8 reps what i did for 20 on the last set after moving the big weight sets 1st,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2013, 03:53:48 PM
You  are a very intense trainer nj...motivates me to read you and  AVBG 's workouts...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 02, 2013, 03:56:36 PM
You  are a very intense trainer nj...motivates me to read you and  AVBG 's workouts...
thanxs donny,,,really,,,saw my old diet guru who dieted me for show's he compete's as a pro master's class looks great for 50 plus,,,he was there and shook his head that i'm still doing this shit 'clean no less 'weight/intensity,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 02, 2013, 04:32:52 PM
Thanks D! As I said before, I get plenty of motivation and ideas from seeing what you guys do!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2013, 02:10:02 AM
Tonight i will go for short but fast run and i will do some Ab training. Last night when i was out it snowed a bit..nothing that bothers me. However the paths are clear. As i run i think about things and i will plan my Monday workout in my head. my Abs will be hit when i am finished running as i feel the exercises better because my waist and lower back have been used quite hard to stabilize my torso when running..the direct Ab training is just the icing on the cake.. ;D..the best Abs in the world like Frank Zane,serge nubret,bill pearl(great waist for a big guy) were built with high reps. i have never enjoyed weighted Ab training, using my mind to work the muscles rather than external poundages...actually great teqniques for Abs are Isotension,Peak contraction...even Giant sets work great for Abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2013, 02:20:01 AM
A book i got some years ago but it gave me some great ideas...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2013, 07:21:44 AM
anyone know if Karen is still with us??
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 03, 2013, 08:53:16 AM
usually sun off have dinner mon so chest /tri done ..

incl db warmup 50's,,then 60 x12,70x10,80x8
hammer flat press 2 plates x10.2 plates and 10 x10,2 sets 2plates and 25 per x8-10
flat dumbell with a twist ,,,turn palms to face each other at top end of movement,,,60x10,70x8,75x8
cable crossovers x3 12 rep sets
finished smith gironda bench to neck x2 x12 reps

tris
pushdowns x3 all 10-12 rep sets
tri dip machine x3 10-12
overhead extensions using v bar x3 10-12
kickbacks holding ball on cable x3 12 rep sets

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2013, 11:28:59 AM
I am scared to Do gironda press to neck because of my shoulder...Great  workout nj Bro
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2013, 11:32:50 AM
Tomorrow i will blast my chest ...High intensity ...  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 03, 2013, 12:05:07 PM
Delts

3 sets reverse lateral raises (starting position arms above head, wrists supinated {Sergio myth pose} end position arms open {crucifix pose}) 5lbs db x 15 reps

4 sets lateral raise (1/2 pyramid) 15-40lb x 15-8 reps

4 sets seated db press 50lbs x 12 reps

4 sets military press 185lbs x 8 reps

30 min cardio - 15 min recumbent bike steady state/ 15 min HIT recumbent bike 1 min full pace: 1 min coast
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2013, 12:19:18 PM
how do you find these AVBG, have you had good results?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 03, 2013, 12:26:35 PM
how do you find these AVBG, have you had good results?


That's the fuckers! I was taught that exercise as a pre-exhaust movement by Justin Wessels (Australia's best ever amateur - unbeaten on Aussie shores and perennial NABBA UNIVERSE top 5 finalist) .. I like the continuous tension aspect of the exercise, happy with the results thus far)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2013, 12:36:43 PM
Great picture Alex... :) itīs 21.35 here in germany..man iīm going to hit chest tomorrow ! Itīs Sunday night here now.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 03, 2013, 09:49:42 PM
I am having issues with my laptop guys. It won't load and is stuck at please wait so am using my iPhone. Trained bis and tris today and will go for a brisk walk in a little bit once the sun is lower in the sky.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 02:12:11 AM
I am having issues with my laptop guys. It won't load and is stuck at please wait so am using my iPhone. Trained bis and tris today and will go for a brisk walk in a little bit once the sun is lower in the sky.
Good too see you back.. ;) yeah i hate writing from my phone but i do when iīm out and about..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 02:24:51 AM
so today is Chest:
warm up jump rope
Abs: Incline sit ups 3x20-30
Incline knee raises  3x20-30

Pre-Exhaust supersets:
flat db flys 3x10 with
Flat DB Press 3x10
Incline DB flys 3x10
incline DB press 3x10
2x max push ups 1 set close hand and 1x set wide hand (if i have the strength because this will work me hard)
later on tonight i will due to heavy rain go to the local swimming baths and do some lengths. My Breast stroke is very good.. :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 04:49:27 AM
that workout killed me...i do not see how anyone can do more sets than this of intense pre-exhaust..well i canīt and i will be honest i struggled on the push ups doing only 1 set even though i took the triceps out the equation with pre exhaust so even though i had strength in my triceps my chest was thoroughly worked  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 04, 2013, 05:24:32 AM
so today is Chest:
warm up jump rope
Abs: Incline sit ups 3x20-30
Incline knee raises  3x20-30

Pre-Exhaust supersets:
flat db flys 3x10 with
Flat DB Press 3x10
Incline DB flys 3x10
incline DB press 3x10
2x max push ups 1 set close hand and 1x set wide hand (if i have the strength because this will work me hard)
later on tonight i will due to heavy rain go to the local swimming baths and do some lengths. My Breast stroke is very good.. :D
NICE,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 05:25:35 AM
Thank you Brother in Iron.... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 04, 2013, 05:33:06 AM
Thank you Brother in Iron.... :)
I'M A BIT SORE TODAY FROM MY CHEST AND TRI WORKOUT ,,MY LEGS FROM SAT 2 DAYS NOW ARE STILL PUMPED AND SORE AS HELL...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 05:38:15 AM
I'M A BIT SORE TODAY FROM MY CHEST AND TRI WORKOUT ,,MY LEGS FROM SAT 2 DAYS NOW ARE STILL PUMPED AND SORE AS HELL...
not surprising after what you did nj..i would be sore for at least 4 days... this is why i canīt understand how some people say they train legs or chest/back HARD 2x a week... i canīt do it not with such a workout as say you did..no way. Not saying 2x a week is wrong but i could not do it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 04, 2013, 05:45:43 AM
not surprising after what you did nj..i would be sore for at least 4 days... this is why i canīt understand how some people say they train legs or chest/back HARD 2x a week... i canīt do it not with such a workout as say you did..no way. Not saying 2x a week is wrong but i could not do it.
I AGREE 100PCT,,,DON'T KNOW ,,UNLESS YOU DO THE WHOLE BODY 2X BREAK IT UP 2 EXERCISES EACH PART SAY DAY ONE CHEST,DELTS,BACK,ABS,  DAY 2 LEGS,BI.TRI ABS,THEN DO CYCLE END OF WEEK AGAIN DIFFERENT EXECISE THO,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 06:43:51 AM
I find i can concentrate on one muscle group better and do say abs and or calfes with a large muscle group. The volume i do is by no means as heavy as yours or Alex but i get results with the "overlap" effect i get because you can never isolate a musle group 100%.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 04, 2013, 06:50:36 AM
I find i can concentrate on one muscle group better and do say abs and or calfes with a large muscle group. The volume i do is by no means as heavy as yours or Alex but i get results with the "overlap" effect i get because you can never isolate a musle group 100%.
GUESS I WAS GETTING AT TOTAL BODY WORKOUT BROKEN DOWN WITH FEW SESSIONS ,,,THEN U COULD DO EVERY THING 2X PER WK...NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE IF UR CLEAN/NATURAL/DRUGFREE/OVER CERTAIN AGE ANYTHING MORE THAN 4X PER WK OR TRAINING DAYS IN A ROW ARE VERY TOUGH TO RECOVER FROM ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 06:57:45 AM
GUESS I WAS GETTING AT TOTAL BODY WORKOUT BROKEN DOWN WITH FEW SESSIONS ,,,THEN U COULD DO EVERY THING 2X PER WK...NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE IF UR CLEAN/NATURAL/DRUGFREE/OVER CERTAIN AGE ANYTHING MORE THAN 4X PER WK OR TRAINING DAYS IN A ROW ARE VERY TOUGH TO RECOVER FROM ...
yes i agree... old guys like me need more recovery plus i do a fair amount of cardio so that is also a point.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 04, 2013, 07:37:55 AM
yes i agree... old guys like me need more recovery plus i do a fair amount of cardio so that is also a point.
OLD?U MEAN SEASONED OR MATURED,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 08:28:02 AM
OLD?U MEAN SEASONED OR MATURED,,,
yes sorry... slip of the tongue...lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 04, 2013, 08:46:56 AM
UR NOT SO OLD YET WHERE WE SAW U IN HALF AND COUNT THE RINGS YET,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 09:00:04 AM
UR NOT SO OLD YET WHERE WE SAW U IN HALF AND COUNT THE RINGS YET,,,,
yeah...lol i feel ok for 46... been blessed with a young(ish) face but slightly balding.. donīt bother i just shave it. Take it like a Mature man... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 04, 2013, 12:12:44 PM
Arms

4 (super)sets db incline curls/overhead db tricep extensions (1/2 pyramid) 20-55lb

4 (super)sets ez bar curls/vbar dips 10 reps:failure

3 (super)sets db hammer curls/close grip bench press 45lbs:225lbs

Cardio
15 mins HIT cardio jump rope

Was listening to Joe Rogan Experience Podcast # 302 (Josh Barnett, Brian Redban 12/22/2012)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 04, 2013, 12:16:21 PM
UR NOT SO OLD YET WHERE WE SAW U IN HALF AND COUNT THE RINGS YET,,,,

The fact that we're getting up everyday and getting shit done ie working, family, relationships & working out speaks volumes - no excuses and no bullshit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 12:25:10 PM
The fact that we're getting up everyday and getting shit done ie working, family, relationships & working out speaks volumes - no excuses and no bullshit.
Exactly. Mature men who have a bit of life behind us and have responsibilities. we still train hard and donīt complain..MEN of iRON.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 12:30:43 PM
Arms

4 (super)sets db incline curls/overhead db tricep extensions (1/2 pyramid) 20-55lb

4 (super)sets ez bar curls/vbar dips 10 reps:failure

3 (super)sets db hammer curls/close grip bench press 45lbs:225lbs

Cardio
15 mins HIT cardio jump rope

Was listening to Joe Rogan Experience Podcast # 302 (Josh Barnett, Brian Redban 12/22/2012)
outstanding workout that Bill Grant would applaud.. he loved supersets for arms. I wrote with him on facebook.. another Bodybuilder i like.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 04, 2013, 12:54:22 PM
Thanks D. I find that if I don't do super sets for arms then I'd be in the gym way too long.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 04, 2013, 01:01:56 PM
The fact that we're getting up everyday and getting shit done ie working, family, relationships & working out speaks volumes - no excuses and no bullshit.
TRUTH,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 01:05:34 PM
Thanks D. I find that if I don't do super sets for arms then I'd be in the gym way too long.
yes and it is the best way in my opinion. I do however swap it up..i start with triceps or i start a superset with biceps... depends how i feel.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 01:07:29 PM
TRUTH,,,,
yes nj... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 04, 2013, 05:51:19 PM
Good too see you back.. ;) yeah i hate writing from my phone but i do when iīm out and about..
I am still here just going to be posting from my iPhone until I get my laptop sorted. I did post up my workout yesterday but it didn't go through. I supersetted my bis and tris and did 90 mins of brisk walking outdoors.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 05:56:27 PM
I am still here just going to be posting from my iPhone until I get my laptop sorted. I did post up my workout yesterday but it didn't go through. I supersetted my bis and tris and did 90 mins of brisk walking outdoors.
see we miss you Karen...nice workout ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 04, 2013, 06:08:47 PM
Chin up Booty! Tough times don't last!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 04, 2013, 06:59:00 PM
Thanks, it's nice to be missed. Thank god for my iPhone, I love it as its reliable and works better than my toshiba laptop. Next time I think I will get a mac
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 04, 2013, 11:24:43 PM
They say it comes in threes. I saw the doctor today with both my children. My son has an infection in his arm because he wasn't cleaned and stitched properly when he came off his dirt motorbike two weeks ago and went to the hospital. The gravel wasn't all removed. That's how messed up our public hospitals are here. My daughter has phemonia and is to have bed rest for the remainder of the week. I saw the doc about my jaw and I have tmj syndrome in my jaw. :-(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 04, 2013, 11:54:07 PM
I am still here just going to be posting from my iPhone until I get my laptop sorted. I did post up my workout yesterday but it didn't go through. I supersetted my bis and tris and did 90 mins of brisk walking outdoors.

If you are using Windows operating system, have you tried starting your computer in "safe mode" and then resetting it to an earlier time when It loaded without any problem? If you don't know how to do this, let me know and I will walk you through it if I can. Anyway, it is worth giving this a try before you hire a repair at probably about $100 an hour.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 05, 2013, 12:12:37 AM
yes i agree... old guys like me need more recovery plus i do a fair amount of cardio so that is also a point.

I think it is OK to refer to oneself as being old. Some days lately, I feel very old and I am only 68 years young. I wonder what I will feel like at 80 years of age.

I am with you on recovery, I have found that the older I get the more time my body seems to like for recovery after a workout. The good news is that once recovered, my body seems ready to go again. When last I worked out, I was working essentially one muscle group a day. I divided leg workouts to quads and calves and later in the week hams and calves. I like to hit each muscle a few different ways in each workout. For quads I really like doing reverse hack squats. After doing them for awhile, I noticed several other folks doing them too. I think I started a trend. I haven't done squats for a couple of years now, preferring to do leg presses instead. I worry about my knees and my back even though I have never hurt them doing squats.

Cardio can be very boring for me. Living in a rainy climate, I tend to do cardio indoors much of the time. This rather limits the array of activities to the more boring ones: such as, stationary bike rides, stair steppers to nowhere, treadmills which leave you right were you started, with a slightly elevated heart rate, etc. Years ago, I was more ambitious about riding my bicycle and getting soaked while doing it or running on the sidewalks and in the streets, (wrenched my knees couple of times doing this by stepping wrong off a curb). I walk my dogs off leash late at night when no one is out. They move at a pretty good pace. Sadly, I have found myself out of breath just keeping up with them while walking up our hill. These are times when I wish I walked on four legs like they do. They seem to manage the hills with ease.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 05, 2013, 12:28:39 AM
They say it comes in threes. I saw the doctor today with both my children. My son has an infection in his arm because he wasn't cleaned and stitched properly when he came off his dirt motorbike two weeks ago and went to the hospital. The gravel wasn't all removed. That's how messed up our public hospitals are here. My daughter has phemonia and is to have bed rest for the remainder of the week. I saw the doc about my jaw and I have tmj syndrome in my jaw. :-(

Karen,

Here you are with TMJ and a bum nose....you're broken girl! Just kidding. Be careful that you don't over focus on these things. My daughter who is 37 years old has so many ailments that sometimes she seems like a hypochondriac although her illnesses/conditions are all legitimate.

Pneumonia is nothing to mess with. once you have it you are more susceptible to getting it again. I didn't get many childhood diseases, but I first had pneumonia when I was 4 years old. Throughout my childhood years and well into adulthood, I suffered from bronchial pneumonia many times. I know now that at the first sign of a cold, I go to the doctor for antibiotics. If I don't I end up with pneumonia and coughing for 3 or 4 months. On the plus side, all that coughing does tighten ones abs somewhat.

Even though I have been on Medicare for the last three years, I buy supplemental medical insurance to insure I have good coverage in the event of medical necessities. Aside from medical insurance premiums, all I paid for the prostatectomy was $300 for the two days in the hospital. The procedure cost nearly $30,000. Had I had to pay that, it would have seriously impacted my savings account. I hope as the U.S. moves forward with the affordable healthcare act, medical care will not suffer. I hear horror stories about government healthcare plans such as they have in Canada and England. On the other hand, Germany has excellent health care.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 05, 2013, 12:34:24 AM
Thanks, it's nice to be missed. Thank god for my iPhone, I love it as its reliable and works better than my toshiba laptop. Next time I think I will get a mac

A good friend of mine who is definitely not very computer savvy, recently purchased an Apple desktop computer. He loves it! He was always running into difficulties with his PC which, frankly, was very old and tired. The real problem though is that PC's and Windows based laptops require tinkering to operate optimally. Apple products are computer dummy friendly.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 05, 2013, 01:05:54 AM
My nose isn't bum it's just swollen which is normal this far out from surgery. I love how it looks and the fact that I haven't had any infections so it is functioning really well. My jaw I strained in the gym when I was training legs a couple of weeks ago. It still hurts but at least it's getting easier to eat. I had to eat soft foods the first week and eat really slowly.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 05, 2013, 03:25:40 AM
I have a little Toshiba and it works well..my son had a Medion i do not think its a make name over in the US or where you are Karen in Germany its well known. He had trouble with it...and i had to send it away twice to get it fixed(was under guarantee) had to argue with the firm too... :(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 05, 2013, 03:42:21 AM
so Back today.. my chest is sore today, push my finger tips on my upper chest and i feel it so i did what i wanted yesterday. so::
as always jump rope and abs:
Sternum chin ups holding the peak contraction 3x max
Supersets:
Dumbbell pull overs 3x15 with
Barbell rows 3x10

Barbell pull overs 3x15 with
One arm Dumbbell rows 3x 10
Deadlifts 4x10
last ex to finish off my traps Dumbbell shrugs 3x10-15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 05, 2013, 09:47:33 AM
Nice work D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 05, 2013, 09:49:52 AM
Nice work D
Thanks Alex...i always train very fast.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 05, 2013, 10:46:26 AM
COOL STUFF GUYS...BACK 2 NITE POST IT LATER,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 05, 2013, 11:40:15 AM
Squats!

30 min steady state cardio - recumbent bike

7 sets BB SQUATS 135-405lb (1/2 pyramid) x 25-6 reps

3 sets BB HACK SQUATS 135lb x 15 reps
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 05, 2013, 11:43:01 AM
Squats!

30 min steady state cardio - recumbent bike

7 sets BB SQUATS 135-405lb (1/2 pyramid) x 25-6 reps

3 sets BB HACK SQUATS 135lb x 15 reps
QUADS ALONE ALEX?NICE SQUAT THATS MY HEAVIEST SET TOO SAME REPS MAYBE 8 ON GOOD DAY IF I'M FUELED ,,USUALLY SIX,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 05, 2013, 11:56:36 AM
QUADS ALONE ALEX?NICE SQUAT THATS MY HEAVIEST SET TOO SAME REPS MAYBE 8 ON GOOD DAY IF I'M FUELED ,,USUALLY SIX,,,
would kill me but i like the simple concept. 7 sets squats and i bet the hacks were killers.. :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 05, 2013, 12:05:12 PM
would kill me but i like the simple concept. 7 sets squats and i bet the hacks were killers.. :o
SEE IM NUTS FROM THE SQUATS TO HACKS I WOULD STILL DO 3/4 45'S PER SIDE
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 05, 2013, 12:13:54 PM
SEE IM NUTS FROM THE SQUATS TO HACKS I WOULD STILL DO 3/4 45'S PER SIDE
respect men..i canīt lift so much as you guys WITH that intensity.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 05, 2013, 12:32:42 PM
QUADS ALONE ALEX?NICE SQUAT THATS MY HEAVIEST SET TOO SAME REPS MAYBE 8 ON GOOD DAY IF I'M FUELED ,,USUALLY SIX,,,

Quads alone mate.. This is another "can't get out of the gym" workout ie focusing on weak links (train those body parts twice- medial and rear delts/traps in seven days).. If feel spent/tired then I would take the two days off.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 05, 2013, 12:38:39 PM
respect men..i canīt lift so much as you guys WITH that intensity.
FOU FOR THE THE PAST FEW MONTHS I HAVE BEEN HAVING MORE RECOVERY BETWEEN INTENSE LEGS SESSIONS ,FEEL IT IN HIPS/LOWER BACK.PELVIC AREA FOR FEW DAYS AND I WAS HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH HEMMROIDS LOL,,,SORRY TO DIVULGE BUT THEY WERE AFFECTING MY TRAINING ON LEG DAY DUE TO SQUEEZING/HEAVY WEIGHTS I DO,,STARTED TREATING THEM ON OWN I NEVER USED PREPERATION H IN MY LIFE SO IT STARTED BEING MY FRIEND FOR A WHILE LOL,,,GOING TO BATHROOM WAS A SMALL CHORE TOO ,,MOSTLY ITCHING BAD BUT I HAD IT FOR YRS THE ITCH LIVED WITH IT BUT THE SWELLING AND TISSUE I NEVER HAD WHEN THEY FORMED MORE OUTSIDE,,WELL ANYWAY SWITCHED TO DIFFERENT WIPES ,TREATED THEM BEST I COULD ,I LITERALLY WAS ON THE PHONE READY TO GO TO DOC BUT I WAITED AND IN FEW DAYS GOT IT BETTER ,,NOW ITS BEEN GOOD 2 MONTHS PAIN FREE AND 'ITCH'FREE FOR LONGEST TIME.I USE A LITTLE DAB PREP H BEFORE LEG DAY JUST I CASE SO FAR SO GOOD,,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 05, 2013, 12:46:39 PM
FOU FOR THE THE PAST FEW MONTHS I HAVE BEEN HAVING MORE RECOVERY BETWEEN INTENSE LEGS SESSIONS ,FEEL IT IN HIPS/LOWER BACK.PELVIC AREA FOR FEW DAYS AND I WAS HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH HEMMROIDS LOL,,,SORRY TO DIVULGE BUT THEY WERE AFFECTING MY TRAINING ON LEG DAY DUE TO SQUEEZING/HEAVY WEIGHTS I DO,,STARTED TREATING THEM ON OWN I NEVER USED PREPERATION H IN MY LIFE SO IT STARTED BEING MY FRIEND FOR A WHILE LOL,,,GOING TO BATHROOM WAS A SMALL CHORE TOO ,,MOSTLY ITCHING BAD BUT I HAD IT FOR YRS THE ITCH LIVED WITH IT BUT THE SWELLING AND TISSUE I NEVER HAD WHEN THEY FORMED MORE OUTSIDE,,WELL ANYWAY SWITCHED TO DIFFERENT WIPES ,TREATED THEM BEST I COULD ,I LITERALLY WAS ON THE PHONE READY TO GO TO DOC BUT I WAITED AND IN FEW DAYS GOT IT BETTER ,,NOW ITS BEEN GOOD 2 MONTHS PAIN FREE AND 'ITCH'FREE FOR LONGEST TIME.I USE A LITTLE DAB PREP H BEFORE LEG DAY JUST I CASE SO FAR SO GOOD,,,,,

Its all about sufficient Fibre, water and removal/reduction of dairy - because of the gas (I've been there myself).. As a result I had any issue in over 2 years.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 05, 2013, 12:56:37 PM
Quads alone mate.. This is another "can't get out of the gym" workout ie focusing on weak links (train those body parts twice- medial and rear delts/traps in seven days).. If feel spent/tired then I would take the two days off.


NICE LEG BRO,,SEE THOSE CALVES DIESELED,,,I HAVE A LOT OF LEG SHOTS POSTED,,I HAVE NEW ONE MAYBE I'LL POST IT,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Viking11 on February 05, 2013, 01:00:14 PM
Sitting at 280 after my last leg workout. Highest bodyweight in 16 years! Off season this winter I have tried to eat clean as circumstances allow. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 05, 2013, 01:05:12 PM
Its all about sufficient Fibre, water and removal/reduction of dairy - because of the gas (I've been there myself).. As a result I had any issue in over 2 years.
YES ,,I AM VERY TUNED TO MY BODY VITAMIN/SUPPLEMENT WISE,EAT CLOSE TO SAME MAIN MEALS PER DAY,,,I EAT 3-4 FRESH FRUITS EVERY DAY AND MOST FIBER KIND FRUITS,VEGETABLES,I EAT A LOT OF WHOLE GRAINS BREAD,CRACKERS,ECT ,,,THE PROTEIN POWDERS MIGHT CAUSE SOME EXTRA DISTRESS BUT I DEAL,,,,OTHERWISE I FEEL GREAT ,,I GOT OVER IT I THINK I WAS USING SOME TOO MANY HARSH SOAPS,WIPES TO CLEAN I'M A FANATIC I GUESS,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 05, 2013, 10:36:58 PM
My nose isn't bum it's just swollen which is normal this far out from surgery. I love how it looks and the fact that I haven't had any infections so it is functioning really well. My jaw I strained in the gym when I was training legs a couple of weeks ago. It still hurts but at least it's getting easier to eat. I had to eat soft foods the first week and eat really slowly.

It surprises me, Karen, that you apparently took my chiding you about your nose and jaw so seriously. Temporomandibular disorders are a serious problem which affect more women then men and can last indefinitely or eventually go away. It is good to know that you are pleased with the results of your rhinoplasty and that the swelling you frequently mention as being very troublesome is a part of the normal healing process.

What also surprises me is that you chose this topic to reply to above the topic of your laptop problems which I also offered to help you with. This tells me that your jaw and your nose are bothering you more than the resent technology dysfunctions you've experienced. How is your laptop BTW?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 08:43:57 AM
Great....my rabbit just bit through my internet cable....LOL....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 08:46:10 AM
using my phone...so I wanted to go running but I have to go now and get a new cable...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 06, 2013, 09:19:13 AM
BACK
HAMMER REVERSE PULLDOWN WARMED WITH 45 PER SIDE,THEN 2 PLATES PER ALTERNATED REPS BOTH HAND 6 THEN SINGLE HAND 6,WORKED 2 PLATES AND SOME 10'S PER SIDE 3X TOTALSETS AFTER WARMUP
TBAR ROW 2.5 PLATES,3 PLATES,3.5PLATES FRONT LOADED TYPE12/10/9 REPS
LOW CABLE ROW 3X 195.210,210 STACK TYPE 10/10/10
TBAR PAD TO CHEST ROW INNER GRIP 2 PLATES 10,2 PLATES 10 AND 5 .10REPS,2.5 PLATES 8..3 TOTAL
I DO A STANDING I CALL THEM PULLDOWN/PULLOVER I DO THEM IN CABLE CROSSOVER STATION FACEING STACK MOVE BACK FEW INCHES SLIGHT BEND AT WAIST STRETCH A BIT OVER SHOULDER LEVEL PULL BACK TO WAIST 3 SETS 10 NICE MOVEMENT...

WEIGHTED HYPERS
3X12 WITH 45LB PLATE

BIS
CURL BAR PREMADE 80/90/100 REPS 10/12
DB CURLS 35/40/45 DONE 6 FULL REPS AND PARTIALS FROM START POSITION TO MIDWAY HALF.. NICE PUMP
ALTERNATE HAMMERS I DO THEM CROSSING OVER INSTEAD STRAIGHT UP TURN DUMBELL SO HAND IS FACING MIRROR TOP PART HAND COME UP TO CHEST LEVEL 45/45/ SET 10...
FINISH CURLS STRAIGHT BAR CLOSE GRIP 2X 10

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 09:36:23 AM
BACK
HAMMER REVERSE PULLDOWN WARMED WITH 45 PER SIDE,THEN 2 PLATES PER ALTERNATED REPS BOTH HAND 6 THEN SINGLE HAND 6,WORKED 2 PLATES AND SOME 10'S PER SIDE 3X TOTALSETS AFTER WARMUP
TBAR ROW 2.5 PLATES,3 PLATES,3.5PLATES FRONT LOADED TYPE12/10/9 REPS
LOW CABLE ROW 3X 195.210,210 STACK TYPE 10/10/10
TBAR PAD TO CHEST ROW INNER GRIP 2 PLATES 10,2 PLATES 10 AND 5 .10REPS,2.5 PLATES 8..3 TOTAL
I DO A STANDING I CALL THEM PULLDOWN/PULLOVER I DO THEM IN CABLE CROSSOVER STATION FACEING STACK MOVE BACK FEW INCHES SLIGHT BEND AT WAIST STRETCH A BIT OVER SHOULDER LEVEL PULL BACK TO WAIST 3 SETS 10 NICE MOVEMENT...

WEIGHTED HYPERS
3X12 WITH 45LB PLATE

BIS
CURL BAR PREMADE 80/90/100 REPS 10/12
DB CURLS 35/40/45 DONE 6 FULL REPS AND PARTIALS FROM START POSITION TO MIDWAY HALF.. NICE PUMP
ALTERNATE HAMMERS I DO THEM CROSSING OVER INSTEAD STRAIGHT UP TURN DUMBELL SO HAND IS FACING MIRROR TOP PART HAND COME UP TO CHEST LEVEL 45/45/ SET 10...
FINISH CURLS STRAIGHT BAR CLOSE GRIP 2X 10

ABS
great workout nj..whats your real first name? i am really called Donny...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 06, 2013, 09:45:34 AM
great workout nj..whats your real first name? i am really called Donny...
STEPHEN/STEVE...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 09:48:13 AM
STEPHEN/STEVE...
ok Steve.. yeah my real name is Donald but everyone calls me Donny also spelt Donnie.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 09:50:49 AM
Today is a rest day for me...after back i think legs would be too much for me today(as Karen pointed out one time too) the deads really fatigue my lower back.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 06, 2013, 11:56:45 AM
Back

4 sets (palms fwd) pull ups x 10-12 reps (static hold at top 2 seconds per rep)

4 sets vbar pull ups x 8 reps (exaggerated stretch at bottom 2-3 seconds per rep)

4 sets one arm db rows 120lb x 8 reps

30 min cardio recumbent bike
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 12:15:54 PM
Back

4 sets (palms fwd) pull ups x 10-12 reps (static hold at top 2 seconds per rep)

4 sets vbar pull ups x 8 reps (exaggerated stretch at bottom 2-3 seconds per rep)

4 sets one arm db rows 120lb x 8 reps

30 min cardio recumbent bike
I like the long stretch at the bottom of the v bar chins..i will do this next back workout. V bar chins really hit the length of the lats and you can really get a long range of motion. nice tip Alex.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 06, 2013, 04:55:40 PM
STEPHEN/STEVE...

Good to know you Steve and Donny, my name is Jay.

I am not sure the Primemuscle handle suits so well me these days. It picked it a very long time ago on a whim and kind of as a joke, (prime sometimes meaning aged beef....thus aged muscle). How old is well aged when it comes to muscle? Is 68 year old muscle still considered prime muscle and opposed to one being in their prime, which for me probably was many years ago?

Well the handle stays because it is too much work to figure out everywhere on the Internet where I have left a footprint using this handle. However, "you can call me Ray or you can call me Jay but you doesn't have to call me Johnson," as was once said.

Incidentally, in my case, Jay is not short for Jason, according to my birth certificate it has always been just Jay. Not that I have a short name since I also have a middle name and last name and my suffix is III. My grandfather was so well liked that I actually have many cousins who are also named Jay after him, however my son and I are the only living family to have his full name. My late father, my son and I are all only sons. My son and his wife broke with tradition when they named their only son.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 05:02:57 PM
i like Jay...nice sounding... i think we can talk first names here..why not? I like to honestly read your posts and get to know you ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 05:11:27 PM
I am a very honest and straight guy and i am who i say i am..nothing to hide. not many Donalds in Celle Germany.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 06, 2013, 05:12:27 PM
i like Jay...nice sounding... i think we can talk first names here..why not? I like to honestly read your posts and get to know you ..

Depending on who you ask, there might be a lot to know about me or nothing worth knowing. Anyway, I agree with being honest and Jay surely suits me better than Primemuscle. My wife likes to call me her complicated husband. I am not sure she means this as a compliment though. She has put up with me for almost 50 years. I guess that says something about both of us and fate.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 06, 2013, 05:16:04 PM
I am a very honest and straight guy and i am who i say i am..nothing to hide. not many Donalds in Celle Germany.

-Same here. I found out early in life that lying always gets you in trouble. As they say, the truth shall set you free.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 05:16:54 PM
Depending on who you ask, there might be a lot to know about me or nothing worth knowing. Anyway, I agree with being honest and Jay surely suits me better than Primemuscle. My wife likes to call me her complicated husband. I am not sure she means this as a compliment though. She has put up with me for almost 50 years. I guess that says something about both of us and fate.
maybe one Day we will meet.Of course i expect a great meal... ;D I have never been to the US.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 05:19:30 PM
-Same here. I found out early in life that lying always gets you in trouble. As they say, the truth shall set you free.
yes 100%
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 06, 2013, 05:24:51 PM
maybe one Day we will meet.Of course i expect a great meal... ;D I have never been to the US.

Well when you decide to come to the U.S. keep Portland in mind as a place to visit. It would be great to meet you. Except when our daughter and family are living with us we have a large house with extra bedrooms and usually have no problem putting folks up....feeding our guests is never an issue.

Tonight we are having scampi and grits plus a vegetable (I am not sure what vegetable because my wife is cooking tonight). Last night, I fixed broccoli and beef, Chinese style, using New York steak sliced paper thin for the beef. -Served it with steamed rice. Later I ran (not literally) to the store for two slices of Tiramisu.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 05:26:48 PM
Well when you decide to come to the U.S. keep Portland in mind as a place to visit. It would be great to meet you. Except when our daughter and family are living with us we have a large house with extra bedrooms and usually have no problem putting folks up....feeding them is never an issue.

Tonight we are having scampi and grits plus a vegetable (I am not sure what vegetable because my wife is cooking tonight). Last night, I fixed broccoli and beef, Chinese style, using New York steak sliced paper thin for the beef. -Served it with steamed rice. Later I ran (not literally) to the store for two slices of Tiramisu.
i got to meet your wife. she sounds great..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 06, 2013, 05:33:33 PM
alex,steve,karen,donny,jay...good group.if i forgot someone sorry....stephen john and bunch vowels is my formal name,like most italian names,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 06, 2013, 05:38:33 PM
alex,steve,karen,donny,jay...good group.if i forgot someone sorry....stephen john and bunch vowels is my formal name,like most italian names,,,

Mine is English....American English after many generations, but still English. My dad and his sisters were born in Capetown South Africa when my grandfather worked there as a dental surgeon.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 06, 2013, 05:46:35 PM
side chest and legs keeping condition ,,,legs always had size but last few yrs got legs more deep seperation that took very hard dieting and some cardio to get,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 06, 2013, 05:48:59 PM
Mine is English....American English after many generations, but still English. My dad and his sisters were born in Capetown South Africa when my grandfather worked there as a dental surgeon.
thats where actress charlize theron is from,,,,cool...prime..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 06:00:22 PM
thats where actress charlize theron is from,,,,cool...prime..
really is she? prime is now Jay-- first names on this thread. We are friends.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 06, 2013, 06:02:46 PM
really is she? prime is now Jay-- first names on this thread. We are friends.
yes,,,i forgot yes to names...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 06:08:40 PM
yes,,,i forgot yes to names...
I know itīs internet and a forum but i like you guys and Karen . Itīs a thread of honesty and integrity. good people.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 06, 2013, 06:12:49 PM
I know itīs internet and a forum but i like you guys and Karen . Itīs a thread of honesty and integrity. good people.
i'm on board,,,literally lol,,,doing delts tomm usually wed/thurs back/bi then calf/delt /forearms ,,mixed up tues back/wed off/thurs delt...my upper/mid back is nice but sore from yesterdays back/bi day lots of rows ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 06:32:22 PM
i'm on board,,,literally lol,,,doing delts tomm usually wed/thurs back/bi then calf/delt /forearms ,,mixed up tues back/wed off/thurs delt...my upper/mid back is nice but sore from yesterdays back/bi day lots of rows ...
i do not believe there is a better ex as Barbell rows...love them !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 06, 2013, 09:35:13 PM
Great....my rabbit just bit through my internet cable....LOL....
That's the only thing I dislike about rabbits, they chew through everything.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 06, 2013, 09:37:23 PM
alex,steve,karen,donny,jay...good group.if i forgot someone sorry....stephen john and bunch vowels is my formal name,like most italian names,,,
Willie posts in here sometimes. Nice names guys :-)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 06, 2013, 11:49:25 PM
We're pretty cool
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 07, 2013, 02:02:43 AM
Willie posts in here sometimes. Nice names guys :-)
yes Willie is a cool guy and he really knows a lot about training.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 07, 2013, 03:37:53 AM
so legs today::
Abs: incline sit ups 3x20-30
hanging knee raises 3x20-30
jumping rope(warms up my calfs too)

pre-exhaust
leg extensions 3x15
Front squats 3x10-15

leg curls 3x15
lying hip raises feet on bench(these work the hamstrings very well although mainly for glutes) I did Deads on my back workout and again today would be too much. 3xmax reps on these.

seated calf raises with
jumping rope 3x15+ reps on the calf raises.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 07, 2013, 03:42:48 AM
my workout today is short and straight to the point. Due to time constrictions i have to train fast and concentrate on the few exercises i will do.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 07, 2013, 04:41:20 AM
my workout today is short and straight to the point. Due to time constrictions i have to train fast and concentrate on the few exercises i will do.
nice donny,,,is that u in the pic u look like an anatomy chart  ;D,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 07, 2013, 04:51:46 AM
nice donny,,,is that u in the pic u look like an anatomy chart  ;D,,,,
;D she has great definition....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 07, 2013, 05:03:03 AM
;D she has great definition....
its early here must rub my eyes out,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 07, 2013, 11:58:53 AM
Chest

5 sets flat BB bench press 135-275lb  @ 20-6 reps (1/2 pyramid)
5 sets incline BB bench press 225lb @ 8 reps
5 sets dips @ 12-8 reps

30 mins steady state cardio recumbent bike
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 07, 2013, 12:41:57 PM
A solid workout ...looks good Alex...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 07, 2013, 12:42:41 PM
A solid workout ...looks good Alex...
NICE BENCH,,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2013, 05:05:37 PM
That's the only thing I dislike about rabbits, they chew through everything.

I don't think a rabbit would much like living in our home where there are two dogs who would no doubt chase after it. Do rabbits and dogs get along? Can rabbits be trained to use a litter box or a pet door to go outside like a cat or a dog?

When I was a kid I had a few rabbits which were kept in cages. They were not particularly affectionate. I remember they ate their young, which were amazingly tiny and pink.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2013, 05:21:53 PM
....lying hip raises feet on bench(these work the hamstrings very well although mainly for glutes)....

Awhile back I put my lower back out and ended up going to physical therapy for about six weeks to get it back in good condition. One of the exercises the physical therapist prescribed was lying hip raises to strengthen my core muscles. I did them with feet on the floor though. Later I added an elastic band around my lower thighs, just above the knee. With my hips raised, I would part my knees, which added another dimension to the exercise. I preformed 3 sets of 10 of these lying hip raises every day for several months. My back has been fine ever since. Now I only do them occasionally.

I am fortunate in that I have not had more back trouble then I have. People who have long backs tend to have more back trouble. I have a really long back compared to my leg length. I also have long arms. To think about it, I am proportioned like an ape. My sleeve length is 35" while my inseam is maybe 31". I have shrunk some over the years but I was 5' 11" at 18 years of age. I think I am around 5' 10" today. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 07, 2013, 07:38:32 PM
Awhile back I put my lower back out and ended up going to physical therapy for about six weeks to get it back in good condition. One of the exercises the physical therapist prescribed was lying hip raises to strengthen my core muscles. I did them with feet on the floor though. Later I added an elastic band around my lower thighs, just above the knee. With my hips raised, I would part my knees, which added another dimension to the exercise. I preformed 3 sets of 10 of these lying hip raises every day for several months. My back has been fine ever since. Now I only do them occasionally.

I am fortunate in that I have not had more back trouble then I have. People who have long backs tend to have more back trouble. I have a really long back compared to my leg length. I also have long arms. To think about it, I am proportioned like an ape. My sleeve length is 35" while my inseam is maybe 31". I have shrunk some over the years but I was 5' 11" at 18 years of age. I think I am around 5' 10" today. 
great jay,,,u do alot for ur age my dad still trains same age dad will be 70 ur 67 i think,,,stay course feel the body not the age..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 07, 2013, 07:47:02 PM
nice delt workout ...
seated db press 40 warm up,,,50 for 12,60 x10,65 x9,50 x12 drop
cable laterals no handle just cable end,, across body elbow pointed up at top end 3x12
smith up right rows x3
front raise reversed palms up 20/25/30 single arm and threw in some both together 10-12 reps
lying slight incline rear raises x3 20,25,25 dbells 10-12 reps

shrugs front x3 225,275,295 12/10/10 supersetted with 45 lb plate in each hand pull up and slight to rear on top 3x 12

calves standing calf raise
forearms roll weighted rop 10 and a 5 roll up/down/underhand reverse back 4 x
reverse cable behind back wrist curls x3...

i usually post cold no pump pic's but i did a end workout pic,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2013, 07:56:06 PM
great jay,,,u do alot for ur age my dad still trains same age dad will be 70 ur 67 i think,,,stay course feel the body not the age..

Actually, I am 68 now and I am about halfway to being 69. One thing that has changed over time is what motivates me to exercise. While I used to be incredibly vain and looking good was my primary motivator, I have mellowed in the vanity department. The benefit I enjoy the most these days is that I feel healthier that I probably would had I spent my life as a couch potato. Along with this change I have learned to balance my interests better then when I spent a couple of hours at the gym everyday regardless of what else was going on in my life. These days, I don't feel bad at all if I miss going to the gym to do something with my wife.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 07, 2013, 08:00:09 PM
Actually, I am 68 now and I am about halfway to being 69. One thing that has changed overtime is what motivates me to exercise. While I used to be incredibly vain and looking good was my primary motivator, I have mellowed in the vanity department. The benefit I enjoy the most these days is that I feel healthier that I probably would had I spent my life as a couch potato. Along with this change I have learned to balance my interests better then when I spent a couple of hours at the gym everyday regardless of what else was going on in my life. These days, I don't feel bad at all if I miss going to the gym to do something with my wife.
i'm still in the vain stage  :P,,,my wife lets me have it,,,rolls her eyes...jay i really love training and never have a bad workout,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2013, 08:04:10 PM
i'm still in the vain stage  :P,,,my wife lets me have it,,,rolls her eyes...jay i really love training and never have a bad workout,,,

My wife likes to tell me how vain I am. To be honest, compared to her, I am still pretty vain.

Like you, I cannot recall having a bad workout. Sometimes my workouts feel absolutely great and other times they are just good, but never bad.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 07, 2013, 08:39:02 PM
Everyone is looking amazing in the pics posted. I am lucky to be amongst such a hot group of guys haha :-) so an update on my laptop, it's got to go away to get fixed.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2013, 09:12:03 PM
Everyone is looking amazing in the pics posted. I am lucky to be amongst such a hot group of guys haha :-) so an update on my laptop, it's got to go away to get fixed.

How old is your laptop? Laptops have really come down in price in recent years. It might be worth it to simply get a new one. Of course if you goal is an Apple product, expect to pay a lot more. They are still pretty expensive.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 07, 2013, 09:51:57 PM
How old is your laptop? Laptops have really come down in price in recent years. It might be worth it to simply get a new one. Of course if you goal is an Apple product, expect to pay a lot more. They are still pretty expensive.
My laptop is 2 years old and I paid extra for extended warranty so I don't want to get a new one yet. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 08, 2013, 04:20:31 AM
nice delt workout ...
seated db press 40 warm up,,,50 for 12,60 x10,65 x9,50 x12 drop
cable laterals no handle just cable end,, across body elbow pointed up at top end 3x12
smith up right rows x3
front raise reversed palms up 20/25/30 single arm and threw in some both together 10-12 reps
lying slight incline rear raises x3 20,25,25 dbells 10-12 reps

shrugs front x3 225,275,295 12/10/10 supersetted with 45 lb plate in each hand pull up and slight to rear on top 3x 12

calves standing calf raise
forearms roll weighted rop 10 and a 5 roll up/down/underhand reverse back 4 x
reverse cable behind back wrist curls x3...

i usually post cold no pump pic's but i did a end workout pic,,,
looking in great shape steve...today i will hit shoulders and arms
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 08, 2013, 04:39:23 AM
warm up + Abs
crunches and leg raises 2-3 x 30-50(i really just train till i feel they are worked enough)

Tri set:
Front DB raises 4x12
side Lateral raises 4x12
bent over raises 4x12

I will finish off my Delts with DB press in Hammer grip 3-4x10-12

supersets:
seated DB curls 2x6-8
tricep extensions(ez bar) incline bench 2x8-10

Barbell curls 2x6-8
close bench press 2x6-8

concentration curl 2x12-15
1 arm DB extensions 2x12-15 ( hit the arms with higher reps at the end)

later tonight i will hit the streets for little jog...keep my old pumper ticking over... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 08, 2013, 04:55:18 AM
warm up + Abs
crunches and leg raises 2-3 x 30-50(i really just train till i feel they are worked enough)

Tri set:
Front DB raises 4x12
side Lateral raises 4x12
bent over raises 4x12

I will finish off my Delts with DB press in Hammer grip 3-4x10-12

supersets:
seated DB curls 2x6-8
tricep extensions(ez bar) incline bench 2x8-10

Barbell curls 2x6-8
close bench press 2x6-8

concentration curl 2x12-15
1 arm DB extensions 2x12-15 ( hit the arms with higher reps at the end)

later tonight i will hit the streets for little jog...keep my old pumper ticking over... :)
thanx donny nice workout....guys i might be a thread geek here on our thread but i do read word for word every post,,,,today/tomm nj is bracing for crushing snow storm up to a foot or more in some areas 2 ft in neweng/boston.conneticut,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 08, 2013, 06:36:44 AM
thanx donny nice workout....guys i might be a thread geek here on our thread but i do read word for word every post,,,,today/tomm nj is bracing for crushing snow storm up to a foot or more in some areas 2 ft in neweng/boston.conneticut,,,,
you keep safe....thank god itīs gone here but snows a little bit inbetween..does not stay though...you aint a thread geek... ;D iīm always logged in on my phone...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 08, 2013, 12:59:28 PM
Shoulder/trap tri-set (reps to failure) 60 sec rest in at end of cycle.

5 sets side lateral raises 15-35lbs
5 sets rear lateral raises 35lbs
5 sets BB shrugs 225lbs


30 mins steady state cardio on recumbent bike
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 09, 2013, 02:48:28 AM
Shoulder/trap tri-set (reps to failure) 60 sec rest in at end of cycle.

5 sets side lateral raises 15-35lbs
5 sets rear lateral raises 35lbs
5 sets BB shrugs 225lbs


30 mins steady state cardio on recumbent bike
nice..i do not think i would do presses either because your chest workout was really hitting your shoulders too with Incline press. Flat press and 100% with Dips.. with these 3 movements for 5 sets each which you did..itīs enough(in my opinion).
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 09, 2013, 07:32:43 AM
so today i will do some Ab training with an hour walk to get some fresh air. A brisk walk i find very refreshing... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on February 09, 2013, 09:39:08 AM
Just got back from an 1 1/2 hr walk up the mountain, nice to be out in the sun and fresh air for a change. I have been swamped with work and only made it to boxing last Monday night, wanted to lift Thursday but couldn`t make it happen.
 I miss my workouts but thats just how its going to be for now, getting a new business up and running is a 24 hr a day job, hell I lay awake at night unable to sleep because my brain is running overtime. Definitely hitting the weights tomorrow and boxing Monday, I need this stuff for my mind as much as my body. John.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 09, 2013, 01:12:21 PM
Legs

30 min steady state cardio (warm up) recumbent bike

5 (super)sets (unilateral) leg extensions 20-80lbs 1/2 pyramid 20-8 reps
5 (super)lying hamstring curl 20-80lbs 1/2 pyramid 50-8 reps

7 sets BB squat 135-315lbs 1/2 pyramid 25-6 reps
4 sets BB Romanian deadlifts 135-225lb 1/2 pyramid 12-8 reps

3 sets Roman chair squats holding 45lb plate 10 reps
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 09, 2013, 01:20:13 PM
well ladies and gentleman and some in between,,,we got snow,snow,snow,up to a 'foot'had good times with kids pulled them on sled together and and then seperate running and letting them go they looked like 'luge'runners in olympics,they had fun ,,so i got 2 leg workouts in snow,then did legs for real later ,,i took alleve and small nap and did workout...

squats 4 sets 135/225/275/315/405///12/10/10/10/8..
hacks close feet 4 plates ,4.5 plates,5 plates  10/10/10
extensions 235/250/265 15/12/12

hams sit up leg curl x3
lying leg curl x3

calves seated calf raise x3
leg press extension x3

2 clear pics ,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 09, 2013, 01:22:24 PM
Legs

30 min steady state cardio (warm up) recumbent bike

5 (super)sets (unilateral) leg extensions 20-80lbs 1/2 pyramid 20-8 reps
5 (super)lying hamstring curl 20-80lbs 1/2 pyramid 50-8 reps

7 sets BB squat 135-315lbs 1/2 pyramid 25-6 reps
4 sets BB Romanian deadlifts 135-225lb 1/2 pyramid 12-8 reps

3 sets Roman chair squats holding 45lb plate 10 reps
nice alex ,,intense training all ur workouts,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 09, 2013, 01:58:02 PM
I took a friend to the butt clinic for a colonoscopy. Unfortunately, he had not adequately prepped so the colonoscopy was inconclusive. He will have to reschedule another one. What a bummer! The prep for a colonoscopy is the worst if you've never had to do it.

I took him back home afterwards. As soon as he walked in his wife started giving him a bad time about not prepping properly. It made me appreciate my wife all the more because she would never have said those things to me even if she thought them.

Anyway, that's how I spent the afternoon yesterday.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 10, 2013, 02:33:00 AM
Just got back from an 1 1/2 hr walk up the mountain, nice to be out in the sun and fresh air for a change. I have been swamped with work and only made it to boxing last Monday night, wanted to lift Thursday but couldn`t make it happen.
 I miss my workouts but thats just how its going to be for now, getting a new business up and running is a 24 hr a day job, hell I lay awake at night unable to sleep because my brain is running overtime. Definitely hitting the weights tomorrow and boxing Monday, I need this stuff for my mind as much as my body. John.
nice alex ,,intense training all ur workouts,,,,
nice too see you John....yes you need it for your mind too. you have to try and relax and do it for your peace and well being.
well ladies and gentleman and some in between,,,we got snow,snow,snow,up to a 'foot'had good times with kids pulled them on sled together and and then seperate running and letting them go they looked like 'luge'runners in olympics,they had fun ,,so i got 2 leg workouts in snow,then did legs for real later ,,i took alleve and small nap and did workout...

squats 4 sets 135/225/275/315/405///12/10/10/10/8..
hacks close feet 4 plates ,4.5 plates,5 plates  10/10/10
extensions 235/250/265 15/12/12

hams sit up leg curl x3
lying leg curl x3

calves seated calf raise x3
leg press extension x3

2 clear pics ,,,
you and Alex amaze me with your intensive workouts and the results speak for themselves !!
I took a friend to the butt clinic for a colonoscopy. Unfortunately, he had not adequately prepped so the colonoscopy was inconclusive. He will have to reschedule another one. What a bummer! The prep for a colonoscopy is the worst if you've never had to do it.

I took him back home afterwards. As soon as he walked in his wife started giving him a bad time about not prepping properly. It made me appreciate my wife all the more because she would never have said those things to me even if she thought them.

Anyway, that's how I spent the afternoon yesterday.
yes i have to do this too because i have Colitis Ulserosa and i was very ill with it in Hospital. The prep is horrible...drinking 3-4 litres of fluid so you sit on the toilet most of the day... :( I do it now every 2 years but i feel better now and running "massages" my colon...or at least i read in an article it helps. anyway i used to take a lot of medication but i do not take it now and my last check up was a year ago i had a small problem(30cm of my end colon is ill)..never really think about it anymore. last night i wanted to just walk but what i did was wrap up a 10kg plate in a thick bath towel in a ruck sack and speed marched and ran..as a young guy i ran with heavier weight but it felt good. I like the pain..just like alex after 7 sets of squats  :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 10, 2013, 11:52:03 AM
Shoulders

6 sets seated lateral raises 12-35lbs @ 15-8 reps (1/2 pyramid) 10 secs between sets

5 sets standing BB Military presses 135-165lbs @ 15-6 reps (1/2 pyramid)

4 sets rear lateral raises 35lbs @ 10 reps

30 minutes steady state cardio - recumbent bike (was going to do jump rope but delts were shot)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 10, 2013, 12:01:21 PM
Shoulders

6 sets seated lateral raises 12-35lbs @ 15-8 reps (1/2 pyramid) 10 secs between sets

5 sets standing BB Military presses 135-165lbs @ 15-6 reps (1/2 pyramid)

4 sets rear lateral raises 35lbs @ 10 reps

30 minutes steady state cardio - recumbent bike (was going to do jump rope but delts were shot)
nice volume...side delts getting a good workout. I am having a day off today (Sunday).. tomorrow i will try doing 3 exercises for chest for 5 sets each like you did on chest day...of course much lighter weights ! ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 10, 2013, 12:32:59 PM
nice volume...side delts getting a good workout. I am having a day off today (Sunday).. tomorrow i will try doing 3 exercises for chest for 5 sets each like you did on chest day...of course much lighter weights ! ;D

To be honest with you Don, I barely pay attention the numbers/weight.. It is so immaterial to having a productive workout.. I've only noticed (for the first time in years) the actual numbers when logging in this thread. I train on my own in my gym without a spotter - that's why I get creative with variety/intensity.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 10, 2013, 01:01:07 PM
To be honest with you Don, I barely pay attention the numbers/weight.. It is so immaterial to having a productive workout.. I've only noticed (for the first time in years) the actual numbers when logging in this thread. I train on my own in my gym without a spotter - that's why I get creative with variety/intensity.

I also train without a spotter or training partner. Years ago, a friend wanted to train with me. Unfortunately, we were physically mismatched, he being much smaller than I. We spent more time loading and unloading the weights then we did lifting them. I was relieved when he stopped coming to the gym. There have been a couple of times when someone would just jump in an start training with me who was more or less my equal. I must say that when the partner thing works, it really helps push me to do better and reach new goals.

At this point in time, I don't need to be lifting huge amounts of weight. I never was a power lifter, nor did I ever want to be one. Many of them sustain permanent damage to their bodies. For me, working out has been primarily about being healthy and also looking fit. There are so many machines that more or less duplicate the movements when using free weights without the risks involved or the need for a spotter. I gave up using a barbell for bench presses long ago and have never missed it. I have very long arms, so the bench press was never my feature move anyway. When I use free weights it is for those exercises like curls and dumbbell flies where the weight is comparatively light and easy to manage. For me using good form is superior to lifting excessive weight. When using good form the increases in strength and therefore weight come naturally.

One thing I like to do is forecast how much weight I will be lifting in a year if I increase the poundage by a certain amount each week or so. You'd be amazed at how much even a 5 lb. a month increase equates to over a year. If one is curling with 40 lb. dumbbells, hypothetically in a year they'd be lifting a 100 lbs. in each hand. Well, suffice it to say, I am not curling 100 lb. dumbbells. If I were, my arms would either be huge or I'd end up pulling them out their joints. LOL.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 10, 2013, 04:39:07 PM
getting back to donny's illness,,,my brother in law has had colitis for long time very bad at times steroids,hospital stay once for a while due to clotting,inflammation ect,,well colonoscopy saved his life due to frequency getting them .sadly his last one 2 months ago showed some inflammation irregular than usual in rectal area,well they found a small and i mean very small tumor'c'word confirmed we were very upset ,my sis and in law have children 7/3 boys and he's 45 young ya know.well all options given by best surgeon and top doc in this field concluded radical surgery to be cancer free no rad/chemo,eliminate colitis also 100 pct ,long recovery 3 months but normal life other than this is down side wearing 'bag'for rest of life,he was under 9 hrs for surgery all in all,he's ok its 1 wk but in pain all over ,,i'm very saddened by this but he's saved by modern medicine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 10, 2013, 07:46:07 PM
Yes i have to do this too because i have Colitis Ulserosa and i was very ill with it in Hospital. The prep is horrible...drinking 3-4 litres of fluid so you sit on the toilet most of the day... :( I do it now every 2 years but i feel better now and running "massages" my colon...or at least i read in an article it helps. anyway i used to take a lot of medication but i do not take it now and my last check up was a year ago i had a small problem(30cm of my end colon is ill).

I am scheduled to have the once every 5 years colonoscopy next year.

I don't know if it is colitis or irritable bowel syndrome, but I go to the john a pretty often. I have hemorrhoids which sometimes bleed. The doctor suggested that the pressure from the hemorrhoids my be the cause of the urge to go more frequently. Up until about a week ago, these suckers were bleeding every time I would sit on the toilet, which had me concerned and then all of a sudden the bleeding stopped and I have been very regular for a change. I can't think of anything I've done that is different which might have cleared things up, but I am really enjoying not trotting off to the bathroom every few hours. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 10, 2013, 08:02:33 PM
Since we are talking medical here an update on my daughter. Had to take her back to doc today as she is worse. Due to being allergic to penicillin he couldn't give her what he would like so the other meds had no effect. She's on different meds now and had an x ray and will see the doc again in 2 days time. Me, my jaw is much better. I can eat chicken now as before it hurt to chew so can give bj's again ( joke here, haha)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 10, 2013, 08:07:31 PM
Since we are talking medical here an update on my daughter. Had to take her back to doc today as she is worse. Due to being allergic to penicillin he couldn't give her what he would like so the other meds had no effect. She's on different meds now and had an x ray and will see the doc again in 2 days time. Me, my jaw is much better. I can eat chicken now as before it hurt to chew so can give bj's again ( joke here, haha)
i hope ur daughter gets well,,,my 3 yr old always has /gets bad coughs,she uses inhaler now/nebulizer when needed,,she allergic to dogs bad/cats we have 2 we did some allergy tests..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 10, 2013, 08:28:43 PM
i hope ur daughter gets well,,,my 3 yr old always has /gets bad coughs,she uses inhaler now/nebulizer when needed,,she allergic to dogs bad/cats we have 2 we did some allergy tests..
Thank you. Yes that's the problem once you get something with the chest it becomes a weakness and colds just go there. I am not happy about this. I warned her not to put her air con on so low after getting caught in the rain but she's a teen and very stubborn. Now she knows what I mean.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 11, 2013, 04:40:16 AM
I am scheduled to have the once every 5 years colonoscopy next year.

I don't know if it is colitis or irritable bowel syndrome, but I go to the john a pretty often. I have hemorrhoids which sometimes bleed. The doctor suggested that the pressure from the hemorrhoids my be the cause of the urge to go more frequently. Up until about a week ago, these suckers were bleeding every time I would sit on the toilet, which had me concerned and then all of a sudden the bleeding stopped and I have been very regular for a change. I can't think of anything I've done that is different which might have cleared things up, but I am really enjoying not trotting off to the bathroom every few hours. 
make sure you get your check ups.. I was ill for a while pains..Diarrhea and blood. I was shocked when i saw the pictures of my colon. I was told it could have burst and i would not be here.. suppose i refused to accept i was ill and chronic ill. been living with it over 10 years so anyway my story is over back to training...LOL. Karen and Steve best wishes to your Daughters.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 11, 2013, 04:55:40 AM
so today i will do a simple but taxing workout...
Warm up jump rope and ABS:
reverse crunches with
Crunches twisting 3xmax reps untill i feel they are worked.

Dumbbell Flat press 5x8-10
Incline Dumbbell press 5x8-10
Decline Dumbbell Press 5x8-10

I will not tri set today as i think with 5 sets and so much pressing i will need the rest in between. however sitting on my ass in between sets i do not like so i will jump rope in between. I will not have a problem with my stamina because my heart is well conditioned. I also feel itīs wise to start with flat press as there is "overspill" to the upper and lower areas. Decline press is also a great exercise that really hits it all too and is very often overlooked.. good if you have some shoulder issues too. I think after 10 sets pressing upper and flat presses i would have difficulty doing Dips and with Bells i can adjust the weight.. so thatīs why decline Dumbbell press.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 11, 2013, 12:27:49 PM

Good work D!

so today i will do a simple but taxing workout...
Warm up jump rope and ABS:
reverse crunches with
Crunches twisting 3xmax reps untill i feel they are worked.

Dumbbell Flat press 5x8-10
Incline Dumbbell press 5x8-10
Decline Dumbbell Press 5x8-10

I will not tri set today as i think with 5 sets and so much pressing i will need the rest in between. however sitting on my ass in between sets i do not like so i will jump rope in between. I will not have a problem with my stamina because my heart is well conditioned. I also feel itīs wise to start with flat press as there is "overspill" to the upper and lower areas. Decline press is also a great exercise that really hits it all too and is very often overlooked.. good if you have some shoulder issues too. I think after 10 sets pressing upper and flat presses i would have difficulty doing Dips and with Bells i can adjust the weight.. so thatīs why decline Dumbbell press.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 11, 2013, 12:35:44 PM
Arms

4 sets db incline curls (super sets) 16-45lb @ 20-10 reps
4 sets db overhead tricep extension (super sets) 16-45lb @ 15-6 reps

4 sets ez bar curls (super sets) 135lb @ 12 reps
4 sets close grip bench (super sets) 135-180lbs @ 12-10 reps

2 sets dips (super sets) to failure
2 sets db hammer curl (super sets) 45lb to failure

30 min steady state cardio - recumbent bike
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 11, 2013, 12:36:39 PM
Thank you Alex, it was very hard not to do a flying movement but it was Brutal. Another thing i noticed was i left out the push ups at the end...no way i could do them.(which i normally do)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 11, 2013, 12:47:45 PM
Thank you Alex, it was very hard not to do a flying movement but it was Brutal. Another thing i noticed was i left out the push ups at the end...no way i could do them.(which i normally do)
THAT GETS GREAT PUMP AT END,, I DO CHEST DIPS NO WEIGHT 15/20 INTENSE PUMP/SWELL...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 11, 2013, 12:53:16 PM
THAT GETS GREAT PUMP AT END,, I DO CHEST DIPS NO WEIGHT 15/20 INTENSE PUMP/SWELL...
I canīt do them after flat and incline presses...i am honest here i just am finished after benches. my triceps are maybe too weak...respect steve...15-20 reps i would not make...maybe 8 good reps but not more. ( i mean parallel bar dips)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 11, 2013, 07:29:43 PM
donny got me thinking for chest workout i did 2 nite
fdb press 60x12,70x12,80 x10,85x8
inc press 135,185,195,185 with drop to plate
hammer flat 3x  2 plates per side x10,2 plates and some change x8
cable crossovers x3
dips x10 supeset elevated pushups x10 2x nice finish for donny,,,,

tris
overhead cable extensions x4
pushdowns x3
tridip machine x3
close grip bench x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 11, 2013, 10:00:48 PM
make sure you get your check ups.. I was ill for a while pains..Diarrhea and blood. I was shocked when i saw the pictures of my colon. I was told it could have burst and i would not be here.. suppose i refused to accept i was ill and chronic ill. been living with it over 10 years so anyway my story is over back to training...LOL. Karen and Steve best wishes to your Daughters.
That's scarey Donny.  I am glad you are okay now though.  You are very lucky.  And thank you.  Just playing nurse and it's tiring.  I am not sleeping well, as I am up several times in the night checking on my baby girl. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2013, 03:50:37 AM
donny got me thinking for chest workout i did 2 nite
fdb press 60x12,70x12,80 x10,85x8
inc press 135,185,195,185 with drop to plate
hammer flat 3x  2 plates per side x10,2 plates and some change x8
cable crossovers x3
dips x10 supeset elevated pushups x10 2x nice finish for donny,,,,

tris
overhead cable extensions x4
pushdowns x3
tridip machine x3
close grip bench x2

abs
yes great workout steve...Dips and push ups are great..the push ups just polish it off. Thank  you for your kind words too.. you guys motivate me 100%. The input by all here makes me really proud to write here.
That's scarey Donny.  I am glad you are okay now though.  You are very lucky.  And thank you.  Just playing nurse and it's tiring.  I am not sleeping well, as I am up several times in the night checking on my baby girl.  
Thank you Karen..yeah i suppose iīve had a few near scrapes and nearly met the Grim Reaper a couple of times...still here and i hope for a while... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2013, 04:09:39 AM
so Back today:
warm up as always jumping rope
abs: sit ups on floor 3x50(full sit ups) warms my lower back and waist area very well.

Wide Grip over hand chins 2x max
parallel grip chins 2xmax

Barbell rows 4x10 Superset with
Dumbbell pullovers 4x15

Deadlifts 4x10 (straight sets)
Shrugs 3x15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 12, 2013, 11:38:12 AM
Traps/rear delts

3 sets db shrugs 45lbs @ 20 reps

4 sets bb shrugs 135-315lbs @ 15-6 reps

2 sets bb close grip upright rows 135lbs @ 10-12 reps

5 sets rear delt raises 35lbs @ 10-12 reps

Cardio 15 mins: recumbent bike Intervals (2 mins slow/1 min full pace x 5)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2013, 12:04:00 PM
Traps/rear delts

3 sets db shrugs 45lbs @ 20 reps

4 sets bb shrugs 135-315lbs @ 15-6 reps

2 sets bb close grip upright rows 135lbs @ 10-12 reps

5 sets rear delt raises 35lbs @ 10-12 reps

Cardio 15 mins: recumbent bike Intervals (2 mins slow/1 min full pace x 5)
do you recomend training traps alone ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 12, 2013, 12:11:25 PM
do you recomend training traps alone ?

My traps are lagging, so amongst delts I am focusing on bringing them up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2013, 12:14:24 PM
My traps are lagging, so amongst delts I am focusing on bringing them up.
ok thanks Alex..i am always looking to learn here..nice workout your traps will be solid.. :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 12, 2013, 01:06:28 PM
I'VE DONE TRAPS WITH DELTS AND BACK AT TIMES....I NOTICED HEAVY WEIGHTS WORK BUT THEN GOING FOR HIGHER REPA TRAINING 12/15 GETS THEM GOING AS WELL,I DO DBELL OR SMITH FR AND REAR ON SMITH WORKS WELL,,OR RUN THE RACK 100 DOWN TO SAY 60 LBS DBS 5/8 REP EACH SET ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 12, 2013, 01:52:09 PM
do you recomend training traps alone ?

I train traps with delts. I have also combined them with an upper back workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2013, 02:14:34 PM
I have mostly trained my traps with back.. i feel more the connection after Deadlifts and rows. My lats just need that last movement (shrugs). However itīs intresting to see diffrent workouts and think about it. tend to agree with Steve direct trap work i like with higher reps and my heavy lifting i do with Deadlifts.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 12, 2013, 02:31:04 PM
ok thanks Alex..i am always looking to learn here..nice workout your traps will be solid.. :)

I like getting to the gym everyday spending up to 45 mins so I don't have to group to many  bodyparts together
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2013, 02:38:34 PM
I like getting to the gym everyday spending up to 45 mins so I don't have to group to many  bodyparts together
i agree and you can get an intense workout in there. I have trained full body, upper/lower(is not bad) but i am the same as you..i devote my energy to 1 bodypart and with the overlap i train it all. You canīt train your muscles so intense with a full body workout not with so many exercises and most important with ..FOCUS on the muscle group(s)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2013, 02:46:42 PM
I do not think you can train with just Basic Exercises..you have to attack your muscles with "isolation" moves too..they finish off the workout and fine tune a great physique. 1 bodypart training is not new and most just think itīs from the muscle mags. They say itīs just steroids but thatīs bullshit and i have never touched steriods and get results. training 4 or 5 days a week works if you KNOW how to train.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 12, 2013, 08:17:12 PM
i agree and you can get an intense workout in there. I have trained full body, upper/lower(is not bad) but i am the same as you..i devote my energy to 1 bodypart and with the overlap i train it all. You canīt train your muscles so intense with a full body workout not with so many exercises and most important with ..FOCUS on the muscle group(s)

Not having trained on a regular basis for some time now, it seems like the smart thing to do is to train the whole body, using lighter resistance and training only 3 days a week to get back in the swing of things. I might add in some cardio only days in between weight resistance days. I am interested in feedback on this idea.

Looking over prior workout routines, I was lifting a lot of weight with not many reps once warmed up. I trained each muscle group once per week with the exception of abs and calves. While I realized good increases in strength and possibly some size, I am not sure it is the best routine for a senior citizen such as me, although I got the routine from a fellow who was designing routines for men over 40 years old. The idea of training once a week was based on the fact that it takes a more mature person longer to recover from a workout.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 12, 2013, 08:20:24 PM
I like getting to the gym everyday spending up to 45 mins so I don't have to group to many  bodyparts together

I have found the advantage to going to the gym pretty much daily and at about the same time is that it becomes very routine and thus more difficult to miss a day. It is similar to missing a meal when you are used to eating it at the same time each and every day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 13, 2013, 08:33:13 AM
I have found the advantage to going to the gym pretty much daily and at about the same time is that it becomes very routine and thus more difficult to miss a day. It is similar to missing a meal when you are used to eating it at the same time each and every day.
I like to make a point of doing some sort of training every day.. even if itīs just a few Ab exercises and jumping rope. I will later go for a run and i like looking around the streets..sometimes funny. I think iīm going to have to give up coffee itīs giving me heartburn...anyone else find this too? a random question i know... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on February 13, 2013, 10:41:45 AM
I like to make a point of doing some sort of training every day.. even if itīs just a few Ab exercises and jumping rope. I will later go for a run and i like looking around the streets..sometimes funny. I think iīm going to have to give up coffee itīs giving me heartburn...anyone else find this too? a random question i know... ;D
coffee gives me heartburn too.....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 13, 2013, 10:53:21 AM
coffee gives me heartburn too.....
yeah i donīt drink a lot of it but i think itīs not good for me..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 13, 2013, 11:21:57 AM
yeah i donīt drink a lot of it but i think itīs not good for me..
DRINK 1 MAYBE 2 PER DAY.NO HEARTBURN CONSISTENT.LIKE IT BLACK ITALIAN ROAST SOME SPLENDA...OR USE NON FAT HAZLENUT CREAMER,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 13, 2013, 11:51:45 AM
Legs

Cardio:warm up 30 min recumbent bike

4 sets unilateral leg extensions 20-60lbs @ 20-10 reps

6 sets BB squats 135-355lbs 20-6 reps

3 (super)sets lying hamstring curl 20-90lbs 15 reps
3 (super)sets Romanian deadlifts 135-225lbs 10 reps
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 13, 2013, 01:15:58 PM
I like to make a point of doing some sort of training every day.. even if itīs just a few Ab exercises and jumping rope. I will later go for a run and i like looking around the streets..sometimes funny. I think iīm going to have to give up coffee itīs giving me heartburn...anyone else find this too? a random question i know... ;D

I like to drink coffee. Sometimes, I've wondered if coffee contributes to problems with indigestion. According to Edgar Cayce's teachings, coffee is healthy until you add sugar or cream to it. I like cream in my coffee. If I make coffee at home, as I did this morning, I will make 4 cups (a cup is 6 oz of coffee), therefore the average mug holds about 2 cups. Where I get into trouble is when we go out to a restaurant and the server keeps topping off the cup. What I have concluded is a little coffee is good and, like most anything, too much coffee is not good for you. A interesting factoid, coffee never keeps me awake no matter when I drink it.

Rich foods combined with alcohol give me heartburn. I have not noticed this with coffee when drunk in moderation.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 13, 2013, 01:22:34 PM
DRINK 1 MAYBE 2 PER DAY.NO HEARTBURN CONSISTENT.LIKE IT BLACK ITALIAN ROAST SOME SPLENDA...OR USE NON FAT HAZLENUT CREAMER,,,

Be careful with artificial sweeteners, I am convinced they are bad for you. My wife has battled a weight problem all her life, she only drinks beverages with artificial sweeteners. If they worked, why does she have type II diabetes? When I want something sweet, I go for natural sweeteners, like sugar or honey. I have never had issues with my weight. Speaking of sweeteners, a lot of products that are non-fat have added sweeteners instead. Some fats in moderation are good for you. When you think about it, what do you add when you add cream to your coffee? I would suggest maybe 1 tablespoon of cream. I don't believe there is enough fat in that small amount to hurt you.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 13, 2013, 02:18:06 PM
Be careful with artificial sweeteners, I am convinced they are bad for you. My wife has battled a weight problem all her life, she only drinks beverages with artificial sweeteners. If they worked, why does she have type II diabetes? When I want something sweet, I go for natural sweeteners, like sugar or honey. I have never had issues with my weight. Speaking of sweeteners, a lot of products that are non-fat have added sweeteners instead. Some fats in moderation are good for you. When you think about it, what do you add when you add cream to your coffee? I would suggest maybe 1 tablespoon of cream. I don't believe there is enough fat in that small amount to hurt you.
I AGREE ABOUT SWEETNERS,I USE THEM SPARINGLY,DIET SODA CONSUMPTION MAYBE CAN OR 2 PER WK TOPS ,SOMETIMES NEVER.I USE 1/2 PACKET SPLENDA TOO.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 13, 2013, 07:45:33 PM
back
chins 3 x12
bent over rows x3 185>225 12-9
seated chest to pad row machine x3
hammer reverse machine x3 2 plates ,2x 2plates and 10.. 10/8
t bar row inner grip 3 plates 10.3.5 x9,3.5 for 8 drop 25 6 more drop to 2 plates finish

weighted hyoers

bis
curls straight bar x3 85>115 12/8/8/
db curls 35/40/45/
seated bi curl cable superset with cross body hammers x2
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 13, 2013, 09:11:17 PM
I AGREE ABOUT SWEETNERS,I USE THEM SPARINGLY,DIET SODA CONSUMPTION MAYBE CAN OR 2 PER WK TOPS ,SOMETIMES NEVER.I USE 1/2 PACKET SPLENDA TOO.

My favorite soda is Ginger-ale. I never drink diet soda. I may have two sodas in a month. I don't think that little sugar will cause me much grief. I have never had a huge sugar craving. When I was a kid, I would scrape off the frosting from cake because it tasted too sweet to me. I do like good chocolates, but I generally only eat one or two pieces. Moonstruck is my favorite brand. A 4 piece box runs around $10. I am not rich enough to make a habit of buying their chocolates. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 13, 2013, 09:20:13 PM
Near where I live is Mary S. Young state park. There is an off leash area for the dogs, which the puppies really get excited about. When we went there today, only a couple of other people were about with their dogs. After cruising around the perimeter of the off leash area a couple of times, the pups and I decided to hike down a trail to the Willamette river. Coming back, we took a different trail that climbs a very steep slope with about a hundred steps. I was out of breath by the time we got to the top of the slope. All in all, we hiked for about 1.5 hours. The puppies came home and crashed on the living room sofa at 4:30 p.m. It is now 9:15 p.m and they've barely moved....no wonder I have been nodding off all evening. Weather permitting, we may go back again tomorrow for another good hike.

http://westlinnoregon.gov/parksrec/mary-s-young-park-0 (http://westlinnoregon.gov/parksrec/mary-s-young-park-0)

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 14, 2013, 06:12:54 AM
Near where I live is Mary S. Young state park. There is an off leash area for the dogs, which the puppies really get excited about. When we went there today, only a couple of other people were about with their dogs. After cruising around the perimeter of the off leash area a couple of times, the pups and I decided to hike down a trail to the Willamette river. Coming back, we took a different trail that climbs a very steep slope with about a hundred steps. I was out of breath by the time we got to the top of the slope. All in all, we hiked for about 1.5 hours. The puppies came home and crashed on the living room sofa at 4:30 p.m. It is now 9:15 p.m and they've barely moved....no wonder I have been nodding off all evening. Weather permitting, we may go back again tomorrow for another good hike.

http://westlinnoregon.gov/parksrec/mary-s-young-park-0 (http://westlinnoregon.gov/parksrec/mary-s-young-park-0)


prime thatīs great .. any form of exercise is good. just keep moving  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 14, 2013, 06:31:44 AM
so today i will do legs... a very simple tri set....
 Warm up and Abs: I minute skipping and my rest is 30 seconds leg raises on the floor ! this i will do for 15 minutes. (alternate skipping/leg raises)

Warm up superset:
Leg extensions 3x15
leg curls 3x15

Tri-set:
squats 4x10
Front squats 4x10
Barbells Hacks 3/4 x 10

standing one legged Dumbbell calf raises 3x15-20

I find back squats first works best then i quickly strip weight off the bar on my squat racks and do front squats so itīs a bit like descending sets... then i have a bar loaded behind me and do Hacks off the floor. 2 mins rest and i load the first bar again on my squat stands for squats then do it all over again. the third set and fourth set(if i do a fourth) will be less weight due to fatigue.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 14, 2013, 08:13:55 AM
I AGREE ABOUT SWEETNERS,I USE THEM SPARINGLY,DIET SODA CONSUMPTION MAYBE CAN OR 2 PER WK TOPS ,SOMETIMES NEVER.I USE 1/2 PACKET SPLENDA TOO.
i only take some milk in my coffee and suger i use less and less these days. I very rarely drink any kind of soft drink, cola or whatever.. sweeteners taste horrible and i never touch them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 14, 2013, 07:16:49 PM
hey guys drinking some black italian roast cofee great shoulder workout like some of alex's delt routines ,,
started side laterals love them 4x 20>35 12/10 reps...
used seated delt press machine stack type 4x 12/10 reps
another throw in front delt raise i use premade curl bar grab close and done under handed slight elbow bent x4 bar 50/60/60/60 x10
bent over rear delt cable x3

shrugs front supersetted with holding 45 lb plate each hand and pull towards rear slight then up to ears 10x10 3x around.

abs lying crunch feet elevated 4x 25 reps per set holding 10lb plate

forgot calves did someting different
standing calf raise 3 sets 30 on stack did 220x10,180x10,160x10 diffrent heavy to light great pump 90 reps less than 5 min with training partner.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 15, 2013, 03:17:50 AM
hey guys drinking some black italian roast cofee great shoulder workout like some of alex's delt routines ,,
started side laterals love them 4x 20>35 12/10 reps...
used seated delt press machine stack type 4x 12/10 reps
another throw in front delt raise i use premade curl bar grab close and done under handed slight elbow bent x4 bar 50/60/60/60 x10
bent over rear delt cable x3

shrugs front supersetted with holding 45 lb plate each hand and pull towards rear slight then up to ears 10x10 3x around.

abs lying crunch feet elevated 4x 25 reps per set holding 10lb plate
NICE ONE...maybe i should start putting in some front raises too in my Shoulder workouts...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 15, 2013, 05:31:14 AM
so today was Shoulders and arms:
Warm up was cycling home so i was sweating lightly so i started with
Abs: Hanging knee raises 3x20-25 with (superset) incline sit ups 3x20-25

Lateral raises 3x12 SUPERSET with Barbell press 3x10
bent over laterals 3x12 SUPERSET with Front raises Holding plate in my hands 3x12

Tri sets for arms :
ez bar standing curls 3x10
incline DB curl 3x10
concentration curls 3x15

Barbell close bench press 3x10
lying one arm cross face extension 3x12 per arm
one arm DB extension behind head 3x12

these tri sets going from one ex to the other really is hard...hitting the muscle group from a diffrent position. stretch,midrange,contracted positions. (or as good as i could)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 15, 2013, 06:50:59 AM
so today was Shoulders and arms:
Warm up was cycling home so i was sweating lightly so i started with
Abs: Hanging knee raises 3x20-25 with (superset) incline sit ups 3x20-25

Lateral raises 3x12 SUPERSET with Barbell press 3x10
bent over laterals 3x12 SUPERSET with Front raises Holding plate in my hands 3x12

Tri sets for arms :
ez bar standing curls 3x10
incline DB curl 3x10
concentration curls 3x15

Barbell close bench press 3x10
lying one arm cross face extension 3x12 per arm
one arm DB extension behind head 3x12

these tri sets going from one ex to the other really is hard...hitting the muscle group from a diffrent position. stretch,midrange,contracted positions. (or as good as i could)
i do trisets evrey 3rd tri rotation,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 15, 2013, 07:04:59 AM
totally wiped out my arms...really felt the Incline curls.. was nearly better than sex... ;D  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 15, 2013, 12:09:19 PM
totally wiped out my arms...really felt the Incline curls.. was nearly better than sex... ;D  :D
I LIKE THOSE ,SOME WEEKS I DO THEM EVERY BI WORKOUT,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 15, 2013, 12:21:27 PM
totally wiped out my arms...really felt the Incline curls.. was nearly better than sex... ;D  :D

This reminds me of what "Arnold" once said. It was something like, "a good pump is better than an orgasm."
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 15, 2013, 12:34:27 PM
Was not thinking of Arnold but your 100% correct.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 15, 2013, 12:43:10 PM
We continue to enjoy sunny and relatively warm weather here in the Pacific Northwest. It is supposed to be in the 50's F today. The sun was streaming through my bedroom window this morning at 7:30 a.m., demanding that I get up and get going which was good since my wife and I had a breakfast engagement with other retirees from where we worked. Right now, I should be writing an article for a newsletter I help with. It is due today, so I will get to it.

Yesterday, the dogs and I went Valentine's Day shopping for my wife. We bought a box of sugarless candy from See's Candies, a card and a dozen roses for our Valentine. She loved everything. She bought me a box of See's chocolates and a nice card. We fixed steak and lobster tails for dinner, accompanied by mixed vegetables. It was delicious and the lobster tails were a special treat.

While the puppies and I were out and about, we stopped at another dog park which is a couple of miles from our house. Instead of going into the off leash area, we decided to take a walk on the Stafford Basin trails. These are a series of trails which amble through an area of farms. The are paved with blacktop and fenced with split rail fencing to help discourage folks and their pets from wandering into people's private land. Eventually when the project is completed, the trails will come within a few blocks of where I live.

I took some photos of the countryside and the dogs, which I will add later since they are on my smart phone and I will need to transfer them to the computer in order to post them here.

The canines and this old guy got a good long walk in yesterday. When I get the newsletter article finished, we are headed out for another walk today. The back of my right knee is sore which must be in the tendon since it does not feel like it is the knee joint at all. It really is bothersome when climbing stairs. I hope that walking will "walk it off" and I'll be fine....getting old is sometimes the shits!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 15, 2013, 12:45:14 PM
This reminds me of what "Arnold" once said. It was something like, "a good pump is better than an orgasm."

If memory serves me correctly, an orgasm was superior to a pump. But, to each his own.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 15, 2013, 04:43:48 PM
any supplement/vitamins used here?i use multi,every day,and on training days arginine/creatine/glycerol just finished this,,but crea/arginine gets good pumps,,and 2 whey shakes or combo shake with other scoops whey in greek yougurt or cooked oats,,,

part 2 ,,,who's ur lifting/bbing ideal to achieve ,,for me zane/labrada type fits my build/mold....i loved arnolds chest tho,,,no homo...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 15, 2013, 05:13:09 PM
any supplement/vitamins used here?i use multi,every day,and on training days arginine/creatine/glycerol just finished this,,but crea/arginine gets good pumps,,and 2 whey shakes or combo shake with other scoops whey in greek yougurt or cooked oats,,,

part 2 ,,,who's ur lifting/bbing ideal to achieve ,,for me zane/labrada type fits my build/mold....i loved arnolds chest tho,,,no homo...

When working out, I often add protein drinks to my diet as well as Creatine. Whether working out or not I take a multivitamin, DHEA and flax seed oil every morning. In the evening before bed, I take slow niacin, DHEA, Low-dose aspirin, Simvastatin (for high cholesterol) and Trazodone to insure a complete night's sleep. I endeavor to eat a healthy as possible and to avoid extremes when it comes to food. I am a firm believer that it isn't so much what you eat as how much that causes some people difficulty.

Frank Zane is more my age than Lee Labrada, but both have enviable physiques. There was a time when I admired guys who were really big. Lately, when I see a really huge dude, I think they aren't healthy looking. The way some of them have been getting seriously sick and even dying does give one pause. Given the choice today, I would definitely choose to have a physique like either Zane of Labrada. However, I would have to adjust for the fact that I have a much larger frame then they do.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 15, 2013, 05:23:10 PM
When working out, I often add protein drinks to my diet as well as Creatine. Whether working out or not I take a multivitamin, DHEA and flax seed oil every morning. In the evening before bed, I take slow niacin, DHEA, Low-dose aspirin, Simvastatin (for high cholesterol) and Trazodone to insure a complete night's sleep. I endeavor to eat a healthy as possible and to avoid extremes when it comes to food. I am a firm believer that it isn't so much what you eat as how much that causes some people difficulty.

Frank Zane is more my age than Lee Labrada, but both have enviable physiques. There was a time when I admired guys who were really big. Lately, when I see a really huge dude, I think they aren't healthy looking. The way some of them have been getting seriously sick and even dying does give one pause. Given the choice today, I would definitely choose to have a physique like either Zane of Labrada. However, I would have to adjust for the fact that I have a much larger frame then they do.
nice prime u put thought into ur answers much appreciated,,,and i like your supp regimine and the other stuff u can't control as u age if needed,dr's orders i guess,,,i have a naturally lean build but developed over time big legs and can get ripped very easliy ,,i have small type joints per say not cookie cutter yeah that's me but zane is as close as a canvas as i see for me,,,everybody has unique look if taken to genetics limits of either size and or condition.i eat a lot to some and to some like a bird they say,,i like to feel comforatable not bloated to think one looks/appears big due to overaeting,,,,i have a very clear image to how i should look and thats why my workouts are always great ,,i'm not delusional trying to push or be something i cannot attain or live up to.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 15, 2013, 05:55:02 PM
nice prime u put thought into ur answers much appreciated,,,and i like your supp regimine and the other stuff u can't control as u age if needed,dr's orders i guess,,,i have a naturally lean build but developed over time big legs and can get ripped very easliy ,,i have small type joints per say not cookie cutter yeah that's me but zane is as close as a canvas as i see for me,,,everybody has unique look if taken to genetics limits of either size and or condition.i eat a lot to some and to some like a bird they say,,i like to feel comforatable not bloated to think one looks/appears big due to overaeting,,,,i have a very clear image to how i should look and thats why my workouts are always great ,,i'm not delusional trying to push or be something i cannot attain or live up to.

It took me years to get to your way of sensible thinking when it comes to bodybuilding. No doubt, I suffered from a form of body dysmorphic  disorder for years. No matter how much I weighed, or how muscular I became, I could not shake the imagine of myself as a scrawny teenager.

One evening when I had been out on the town and was headed back to my car, I sensed someone was following me. I turned to face them and told them I would beat the crap out of them if they kept following me. The fellow took off running. This was a turning point for me. I am a very mild mannered fellow. The first and last fight I had was when I was a junior in high school. It lasted all of about a minute and I lost, sustaining a nice little cut on my cheekbone. I knew the main thing that scared that possible mugger off was my attitude which was bolstered by my size. It was like reaching the peak of Mt Everest.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 15, 2013, 05:59:46 PM
It took me years to get to your way of sensible thinking when it comes to bodybuilding. No doubt, I suffered from a form of body dysmorphic  disorder for years. No matter how much I weighed, or how muscular I became, I could not shake the imagine of myself as a scrawny teenager.

One evening when I had been out on the town and was headed back to my car, I sensed someone was following me. I turned to face them and told them I would beat the crap out of them if they kept following me. The fellow took off running. This was a turning point for me. I am a very mild mannered fellow. The first and last fight I had was when I was a junior in high school. It lasted all of about a minute and I lost, sustaining a nice little cut on my cheekbone. I knew the main thing that scared that possible mugger off was my attitude which was bolstered by my size. It was like reaching the peak of Mt Everest.
i had some peaks and valleys along the way i kid u not,,thought i was superman,tried to overdo,overthink,overkill,then i got realistic and stayed the course ,i see what u mean its like saying i'm 5'8 190 lbs i am going to be arnold..u have to get balance..i remember missing workouts.or meal and sitting there worrying instead of making $ or trying to make more ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 16, 2013, 02:47:45 AM
I have to admit i have always really looked at Bodybuilders like Steve Reeves and Frank Zane for inspiration. always liked more of a symmetrical look. Size at all costs has never really been my main goal. In fact i used weight training for a long time to supplement my martial arts training. I still go more for a muscled but shaped look as for "supplements" i have never botherd with them and because of my illness i can't digest them well..if i drink a protein shake i run to the bathroom. I have met some guys who have a big ego with their big muscles but since i saw a small boned guy put a big weight trained Rugby player in a Judo strangle hold and he was helpless i realized it's not everything. I work on being fit for as long as i can. I use everything i can, running, weights, always mixing it up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 16, 2013, 09:50:25 AM
so today i had a relaxing swim at the local pool. nice whirpool that really relaxes you. No weight training today. If i had the time i would swim more often because i feel tired now but refreshed.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 16, 2013, 02:36:27 PM
so today i had a relaxing swim at the local pool. nice whirpool that really relaxes you. No weight training today. If i had the time i would swim more often because i feel tired now but refreshed.

The gym where I go has a large Olympic sized indoor pool. I enjoy swimming laps there, but don't do it as often as I should. There was a time in my life when I swam laps almost everyday for a half hour or so. It really helps keep one fit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 16, 2013, 02:54:56 PM
any supplement/vitamins used here?i use multi,every day,and on training days arginine/creatine/glycerol just finished this,,but crea/arginine gets good pumps,,and 2 whey shakes or combo shake with other scoops whey in greek yougurt or cooked oats,,,

part 2 ,,,who's ur lifting/bbing ideal to achieve ,,for me zane/labrada type fits my build/mold....i loved arnolds chest tho,,,no homo...

Aside from whey isolate and a greens product - no.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 16, 2013, 03:49:28 PM
Aside from whey isolate and a greens product - no.
ok..i agree a lot of bullshit out there,,unproven,effectiveness,safety...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 17, 2013, 02:23:46 AM
ok..i agree a lot of bullshit out there,,unproven,effectiveness,safety...
one of the reasons i do not buy muscle mags anymore is that they are just full of supplement ads. OK some are ok i understand that but now itīs just making big bucks out of the dreams of young people. I know this has always been so but now itīs got worse.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 17, 2013, 07:57:21 AM
leg day kept it simple,intense,did this 45 minutes pressed for time sunday catholicschool daughter,church

quads
leg press x5 sets 10 started 3 plates,4 plates,5 plates 2x 6 plates supersetted with extensions worked up to heaviest 235 stack
next superset squat x4 225/275/275/315 close stance x10 reps supersetted with walking lunges 50 lb dbells

hams
stiflegged deadlifts x4 185/235/235/235/x10 supersetted with lying leg curls x4 worked up to 145 on stack

calves
seated x3 supersetted leg press calf raise

very intense pump,great energy,heart pumping,winded a bit ;D,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 17, 2013, 08:16:26 AM
Wow....Great workout . Speeding it up is a real shock to the body..OUTSTANDING..gonna go running  soon . Make it hurt... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 18, 2013, 01:40:19 AM
so chest today and i will hit my chest with 3 pushing movements.
warm up and Abs: crunches(lower legs on bench) 3xmax Superset with leg raises (on the floor) 3xmax

flat DB press 2x10 (Superset) with Flat Flyes 2x10+
Incline DB press 2x10( superset) with incline Flyes 2x10+
Decline DB press 2x10 (superset)  with decline flyes 2x10+

I will finish off with max push ups.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 18, 2013, 06:35:44 AM
Wow....Great workout . Speeding it up is a real shock to the body..OUTSTANDING..gonna go running  soon . Make it hurt... ;D
LEGS ARE SORE TODAY DUDE,,,WHAT HAPPENED TO KAREN?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 18, 2013, 07:15:00 AM
LEGS ARE SORE TODAY DUDE,,,WHAT HAPPENED TO KAREN?
yeah i was thinking that too...where is the Baby Doll  ;D ??
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 18, 2013, 11:07:13 AM
So tonight I went for another run because tomorrow I have no time...I love the fresh air ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 19, 2013, 03:44:31 AM
Today i worked back:
i was cycling around early today so it was a good warm up.
Abs: V-sit ups 3x30-50(this warms up my midsection and lower back.)

Close grip chins 3x max
Barbell Rows 5x10
Barbell deadlifts5 x10
One leg calf raises 5x15-20 reps per leg.

that was it and i did straight sets today because i did more sets per exercise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 20, 2013, 02:14:24 AM
so today is shoulders:
Warm up Dumbell swing throughs and skipping (stretch of my lower back and warm up my shoulders)

Lateral raises 4x12 superset with
Barbell press4x10

bent over laterals 4x12 superset with
Nieder press 4x12
The Neider press works the front delts very hard and also chest. An unusual position to work from and i learned this exercise in the Army during Boxing training, really helps when you are tired to hold your hands up... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 20, 2013, 07:33:31 PM
back
t bar row standing version chest to pad x3
hammer pulldown x3
cable low row x3
chin ups x3 inner under hand grip
finished 2x one arm dbell row 85/95 10 reps

weighted hypers

bi's
curls with straight bar 85>115 x4 10/10/8/6
seated scott curl machine x3
db curls 40lbs x3

abs
crunches holding 10lb plate 25 rep sets x3
roman chair side crunches 12 reps per side x2,,

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 21, 2013, 02:34:04 AM
This photo is for Karen. I was 29 when I had nasal reconstruction to correct a deviated septum. In this photo, I look like I was the loser in a fight. I think this is before the doctor took the packing out of my nose.
looks nasty... :o

back
t bar row standing version chest to pad x3
hammer pulldown x3
cable low row x3
chin ups x3 inner under hand grip
finished 2x one arm dbell row 85/95 10 reps

weighted hypers

bi's
curls with straight bar 85>115 x4 10/10/8/6
seated scott curl machine x3
db curls 40lbs x3

abs
crunches holding 10lb plate 25 rep sets x3
roman chair side crunches 12 reps per side x2,,


going to try these side crunches myself. solid as ever steve :) Today i will rest (well i will be biking today ) starting to snow again today i like the snow in my face and fresh wind. Thatīs good because my wife has my car and i will be on my bike today...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 21, 2013, 02:39:50 AM
also got to tonight write a CV for a job with my son. A new Gym will open near us and my son wants to learn to be a Fitness Trainer, experience he has but you need that piece of paper to do the job.. over here itīs a "B" licence. I got it too and it means nothing but you have to have the qualification here.. the gym is looking to train people and qualify them. costs a lot to do the seminars.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 21, 2013, 03:09:40 AM
 ;D saw this pic and just had to post it ----lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 21, 2013, 06:47:06 AM
;D saw this pic and just had to post it ----lol

LOL,,,GOOD ONE DONNY,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 21, 2013, 06:48:13 AM
LOL,,,GOOD ONE DONNY,,,
it made me laugh.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 22, 2013, 06:49:25 AM
so time to blast my arms :

jump rope and Abs Crunches 3xmax.

seated DB curls  2x6-8 superset with
incline ez bar tri extensions 2x 8-10

BB curls 2x6-8 superset with
close grip bench press 2x6-8

seated concentration curls 2x12-15 superset with
one arm DB extensions seated 2x12-15

Forearms:  ez bar reverse curls 2x10+ superset with
BB wrist curls arms on thighs 2x 10+
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 22, 2013, 07:08:25 AM
delts
front press x5 135x2>185 12/5 rep scale dropped back last set to 135
side raise x4 25>35 10/10/10/10
lying rear raises x3
cable uprights with single handles x2
finished 2x reverse fr raise with curl bar front delt good pump palms up slight bend at elbow

shrugs front x3 superset 45 lb plate each hand slight rotation to rear on finish

forearms weighted rope rolls and reverse wrist curl cable bar behind back

calves standing calf raise heavy to light drops 10 reps per drop total 3x 90 reps total..

holding condition donny,,,,

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 22, 2013, 07:29:23 AM
Lookin great Man...solid pumped up physique (no Homo) ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 22, 2013, 07:37:15 AM
Lookin great Man...solid pumped up physique (no Homo) ;D
thanks ...no homo....can't wait for warmer weather to get a little sun,,i stopped tanning booths yrs ago,,,wife gave me hell everytime i went..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 22, 2013, 07:46:01 AM
thanks ...no homo....can't wait for warmer weather to get a little sun,,i stopped tanning booths yrs ago,,,wife gave me hell everytime i went..
well i tried it once or twice but to be honest itīs not for me. I mean in summer i get brown quick. i love cycling around with no shirt on and shorts.. just looks weird if you walk around in winter with a sun bed tan anyway..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 23, 2013, 01:18:40 AM
today i will hit legs:
warm up with Abs 2x50 full sit ups.

Leg extensions 3x15 Superset
leg curls lying 3x15

Tri-set:
BB squats 3x10
Front squat 3x10
BB hacks 3x10

seated BB calf raises 5x15-20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 23, 2013, 07:39:25 AM
one of my favourites...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 23, 2013, 02:13:44 PM
heavy legs today...

squats 135,225,275,315,405,465 yes  pushed for it 4 reps wrapped phew,,,
hacks 4 plate,4.5 plates ,,5 plates 10/8 reps
standing lunges 135/185 x2
extension x3

hams lying legs curls x4 140>170 on stack 12/10/10/7

calves leg press and seated calf raise x6 sets...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 23, 2013, 04:58:07 PM
one of my favourites...


Here is what I believe is a fairly recent photo of Bill Pearl and Larry Scott. These are two of the greats from the past. Bill is 82 years old and Larry is 74 years old. Can you believe it? There are actually people around who are older than I am.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 23, 2013, 05:00:18 PM
Here is what I believe is a fairly recent photo of Bill Pearl and Larry Scott. Two greats from the past.
prime facially now u remind me of pearl,,something there,,still has that barrel chest..sad about larry looks frail but facially good,,,loved pearls build thick ,solid..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 23, 2013, 05:13:34 PM
prime facially now u remind me of pearl,,something there,,still has that barrel chest..sad about larry looks frail but facially good,,,loved pearls build thick ,solid..

Thanks, Bill was and is a nice looking fellow. I don't see the resemblance except for our coloring. I think Bill has olive-toned skin, like me. He had really dark hair though, while mine was more dirty blond. Of course we both have white hair now, he just has more on his head and I have more on my face. LOL.

Larry does appear somewhat frail. Where did his delts go? Larry Scott retired from competitive bodybuilding when he was only 28 years old. Perhaps he took his physique in a different direction after that.

Here is another photo of Larry Scott take when he as 73 years old. The other fella is Franco Columbu, another blast from the past. Franco is 71 years old.

These men have lived to a ripe old age and all still look to be fairly healthy. What do you suppose today's bodybuilders are doing different that is causing some of them to become sick and even die really young? Bodybuilder and wrestler Matt DuVall just died. He was only 40 years old.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 24, 2013, 01:18:49 AM
heavy legs today...

squats 135,225,275,315,405,465 yes  pushed for it 4 reps wrapped phew,,,
hacks 4 plate,4.5 plates ,,5 plates 10/8 reps
standing lunges 135/185 x2
extension x3

hams lying legs curls x4 140>170 on stack 12/10/10/7

calves leg press and seated calf raise x6 sets...
your a lot stronger than me...good weights :) 465...would kill me...lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 24, 2013, 01:21:17 AM
 ;)  some great pics in here ...
http://www.bill-pearl.com/pictures.html
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 24, 2013, 07:16:40 AM
your a lot stronger than me...good weights :) 465...would kill me...lol
thanx donny,,,a bit sore today ,,nice feeling ,,today rest day,,tomm chest/tri
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 24, 2013, 07:32:40 AM
thanx donny,,,a bit sore today ,,nice feeling ,,today rest day,,tomm chest/tri
well outside itīs cold again the weather is changing all the time.. could just do some skipping and keep warm indoors but i canīt wimp out.. gotta go out and run, take it like a Man... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 24, 2013, 07:45:39 PM
wifes birthday celebrated a few days early her mom,bro/wife and newborn,,,we had pizza,calamari,i made great salad loaded walnuts,craisens,mozzarella,tomatoes,olives,cucumber's,and dessert.. cake,zeppoles,cappucino,espresso,,oh and some vino of course,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 25, 2013, 08:14:50 AM
wifes birthday celebrated a few days early her mom,bro/wife and newborn,,,we had pizza,calamari,i made great salad loaded walnuts,craisens,mozzarella,tomatoes,olives,cucumber's,and dessert.. cake,zeppoles,cappucino,espresso,,oh and some vino of course,,,
that sounds just what i need.... :) all the best to your wife for her Birthday...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 25, 2013, 08:20:35 AM
Today i worked chest....
10 mins jumping rope
Abs: crunches and leg raises 3xmax

I did straight sets today:
Parallel bar dips 3x 10-15
Decline Flyes 3x10-15
Incline DB press 3x10
Incline flyes 3x10-15
Push ups on the floor 1x max reps till failure ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 25, 2013, 12:04:02 PM
just got a reply back from Bill Pearl on Facebooks, he said he is doing well...and hopes the same for me...what a great Guy.. :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 25, 2013, 12:09:17 PM
just got a reply back from Bill Pearl on Facebooks, he said he is doing well...and hopes the same for me...what a great Guy.. :)
NICE,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 25, 2013, 12:17:23 PM
NICE,,,,
yeah .. a real Gentleman.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 26, 2013, 06:14:20 AM
so today is back...
Warm up Burpees 3x 30 reps ( no need to train abs with these)

Sternum chins 3x max

Barbell rows 3x 10 superset
Dumbbell pullovers 3x15

T-Bar rows 3x10 superset
Barbell pullovers 3x15

Dumbbell shrugs 3x10-15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 26, 2013, 09:21:23 AM
QUIET HERE DONNY LATELY...
CHEST
INC DBELL,,60/70/75/80 12/10/10/8
HAMMER LYING PRESS 2 PLATES,2 AND CHANGE,2.5 WITH DROP SET 6 THEN 7 REPS FAILED...
DB PRESS FLAT TWISTING PALMS FACING AT END MOVEMENT 70'S X3 10/9/7 LOST REPS EACH SET :P
CABLE CROSSOVERS X3 12/12/10
SUPERSET DIPS X10 WITH 25 LB DBELL IN BACK OF LEG WITH PUSHUPS X10/15 X2 SETS.....

TRI'S
ROPE EXTENSIONS OVERHEAD X4
PUSHDOWNS X3
DIP MACHINE X3
CABLE KICKBACKS X2 12 REPS EACH AND THEN STANDING CABLE EXTENSION X2
DID MORE TRI'S THAN USUAL USUALLY 10/12 SETS TOTAL ....
ABS,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 26, 2013, 09:39:27 AM
QUIET HERE DONNY LATELY...
CHEST
INC DBELL,,60/70/75/80 12/10/10/8
HAMMER LYING PRESS 2 PLATES,2 AND CHANGE,2.5 WITH DROP SET 6 THEN 7 REPS FAILED...
DB PRESS FLAT TWISTING PALMS FACING AT END MOVEMENT 70'S X3 10/9/7 LOST REPS EACH SET :P
CABLE CROSSOVERS X3 12/12/10
SUPERSET DIPS X10 WITH 25 LB DBELL IN BACK OF LEG WITH PUSHUPS X10/15 X2 SETS.....

TRI'S
ROPE EXTENSIONS OVERHEAD X4
PUSHDOWNS X3
DIP MACHINE X3
CABLE KICKBACKS X2 12 REPS EACH AND THEN STANDING CABLE EXTENSION X2
DID MORE TRI'S THAN USUAL USUALLY 10/12 SETS TOTAL ....
ABS,,,
respect .. you are a strong guy. like i wrote before i canīt train triceps after chest. yes they are no doubt working or eating too much... ;D you know maybe i should start up Dons Boot Camp here...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 26, 2013, 09:47:19 AM
 :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 26, 2013, 10:02:55 AM
:)
WHAT A BUILD,,,FOR SIZE OLD SCHOOL BEFORE ARNOLD HIM,,,FOR DEFINITION/SHAPE ZANE,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 26, 2013, 10:11:09 AM
WHAT A BUILD,,,FOR SIZE OLD SCHOOL BEFORE ARNOLD HIM,,,FOR DEFINITION/SHAPE ZANE,,
yes do not get me wrong i also love Zane too as i wrote. I love his mental awareness and intelligence and i love Bill Pearl for the man he is and that he makes time for you. outstanding .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 26, 2013, 10:55:30 AM
Have any of you ever experienced soreness in the tendons at the back of your knees. I had this issue come on a few weeks ago. It has persisted. I particularly notice it during and after climbing stairs either up or down.

This morning I did some weight free "good mornings" to see if I could stretch it out. Don't know if it made any difference yet.

I was having issues with my sciatic nerve in this same leg awhile back. I was in the car driving or at meetings sitting most of the day and evening yesterday and never developed sciatic pain. Sitting for long periods previously aggravated my sciatica. Somehow this problem has resolved itself.

Well, I'm off to take my wife to her doctor appointment and then out to breakfast. Breakfast at noon....now there is an issue.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 26, 2013, 12:57:38 PM
http://www.medicinenet.com/sciatica/article.htm
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 26, 2013, 01:00:48 PM
hope this helps my freind... stretch it but as i have read itīs a very large nerve....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 26, 2013, 08:35:45 PM
hope this helps my freind... stretch it but as i have read itīs a very large nerve....

I was thinking that the pain is not from my sciatica, but the tendon that is somehow inflamed. Anyway, I have continued to stretch it throughout the day, which seems to be helping. My range of motion has actually improved somewhat. In a few days I will attempt toe touches. Considering the length of my arms, that should not be too big a feat.  :)

When I was having sciatica issues, the pain was very different, almost like a Charlie horse and in my hamstring not in the tendons. It would come on when I sat for too long a time, like when driving. This bothers me when I am moving about and not when I am sitting. As I mentioned stair climbing or descending is the most aggravating. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 27, 2013, 04:47:53 AM
shoulders will get blasted today:
Warm up with Bastards( i will put a pic up) no ab training as my midsection is worked well with these.

Giant sets

Seated DB press 3x10
seated side raises 3x10
seated bent over laterals 3x10
standing nieder press with barbell 3x10-15 (works well also with a barbell plate in your hands) every serious martial artist or boxer should do these.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 27, 2013, 12:43:59 PM
Donny,

I finally got around to checking the link you posted about sciatica. The webpage is loaded with information that I had not considered. I first started having problems with sciatica, it was after I had an issue with my lower back. The doctor diagnosed that as being caused by degenerative disk disease/arthritis in my spine. He prescribed about 8 weeks of physical therapy which I did. Not very many weeks into the therapy, the spasms subsided. I was taught how to do exercises specific to the strengthening the core muscles which affect the spine. Since doing physical therapy, I have had no recurrence of the spasms. However, it was following this episode that I started having an issue with sciatica. The problem only occurred after I was sitting for an extended time period as I previously mentioned. I was the guy people saw who pulled off to the shoulder of the road, getting out of my car and doing squats to relieve the pain. LOL!

I did not associate this latest issue of what I assumed is an inflamed tendon at the back of my knee with sciatica until I read the information you linked me to. Now it seems possible that the problem could be sciatica and has simply moved down my leg. The pain is different from what I had in my hamstring and it is nowhere near as intense as it was before. What really makes me think it could be related to sciatica is that it is in the same leg. Apparently, sciatica often only affects one leg.
 
For now, I am going to continue doing good mornings when I first get up in the morning and periodically throughout the day to keep things moving. Although I only started doing this yesterday, it seems to have already affected some improvement. This morning I did 2 sets of 10. The first set I did with my hands behind my head. Since I was getting a better stretch then yesterday, I did the second set with finger tips touching my toes. As I mentioned, I have long arms. When I can put the palms of my hands flat on the floor, I will have regained my normal flexibility.

Of course if my efforts to self treat this problem aren't successful, I will see my doctor for further advice. I am not ready to be an invalid yet, if ever!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 27, 2013, 12:47:15 PM
I just want to go on record by saying that I have missed seeing Karen's posts here recently. I hope all is well with Karen and her family. I would have sent her and email inquiry to this effect, accept that her email address isn't available here and I don't otherwise know it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 27, 2013, 12:49:40 PM
I just want to go on record by saying that I have missed seeing Karen's posts here recently. I hope all is well with Karen and her family. I would have sent her and email inquiry to this effect, accept that her email address isn't available here and I don't otherwise know it.
ME AS WELL...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 27, 2013, 12:56:58 PM
Guys she is on my Facebook.. gonna ask her. infact you guys should be on mine too!! Donald Smith Celle Germany.
FACE BOOK IS FOR FINNOCCHIO'S ... ;DJUST KIDDING,,,MY WIFE IS ON THERE ALL THE TIME...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 27, 2013, 12:57:40 PM
I happened to read article in the paper today which I found very interesting. It tells about the Elder Wisdom Circle, http://www.elderwisdomcircle.org/ (http://www.elderwisdomcircle.org/) where seniors offer sage advice. I am not sure how "sage" my advice is, but I am thinking of looking into joining this group. Maybe others can learn from my mistakes and successes in life. Michael Heisler, the gentleman interviewed in the article says, "I'm not particularly smart, but I've made a lot of mistakes."  The seems a lot like me. Here is a link to the article: http://www.oregonlive.com/living/index.ssf/2013/02/through_elder_wisdom_circle_po.html (http://www.oregonlive.com/living/index.ssf/2013/02/through_elder_wisdom_circle_po.html)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 27, 2013, 01:00:03 PM
Donny,

I finally got around to checking the link you posted about sciatica. The webpage is loaded with information that I had not considered. I first started having problems with sciatica, it was after I had an issue with my lower back. The doctor diagnosed that as being caused by degenerative disk disease/arthritis in my spine. He prescribed about 8 weeks of physical therapy which I did. Not very many weeks into the therapy, the spasms subsided. I was taught how to do exercises specific to the strengthening the core muscles which affect the spine. Since doing physical therapy, I have had no recurrence of the spasms. However, it was following this episode that I started having an issue with sciatica. The problem only occurred after I was sitting for an extended time period as I previously mentioned. I was the guy people saw who pulled off to the shoulder of the road, getting out of my car and doing squats to relieve the pain. LOL!

I did not associate this latest issue of what I assumed is an inflamed tendon at the back of my knee with sciatica until I read the information you linked me to. Now it seems possible that the problem could be sciatica and has simply moved down my leg. The pain is different from what I had in my hamstring and it is nowhere near as intense as it was before. What really makes me think it could be related to sciatica is that it is in the same leg. Apparently, sciatica often only affects one leg.
 
For now, I am going to continue doing good mornings when I first get up in the morning and periodically throughout the day to keep things moving. Although I only started doing this yesterday, it seems to have already affected some improvement. This morning I did 2 sets of 10. The first set I did with my hands behind my head. Since I was getting a better stretch then yesterday, I did the second set with finger tips touching my toes. As I mentioned, I have long arms. When I can put the palms of my hands flat on the floor, I will have regained my normal flexibility.

Of course if my efforts to self treat this problem aren't successful, I will see my doctor for further advice. I am not ready to be an invalid yet, if ever!
you are the same as me.. i never go to the Doc although i have Colitus and to be honest i never think about it . the best advice is from a Doctor and get it checked ! you are a good man and by the way where is my invatation to eat with you ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 27, 2013, 01:02:17 PM
FACE BOOK IS FOR FINNOCCHIO'S ... ;DJUST KIDDING,,,MY WIFE IS ON THERE ALL THE TIME...
yeah.. i am on there and just keep in touch with my scottish friends and a few english guys ...lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 27, 2013, 01:06:42 PM
you are the same as me.. i never go to the Doc although i have Colitus and to be honest i never think about it . the best advice is from a Doctor and get it checked ! you are a good man and by the way where is my invatation to eat with you ?
COLITIS IS TOUGH,,,MY BROTHER IN LAW IS RECOVERING FROM COLITIS/CANCER SURGERY OK,,BOTH ILLNESS'S RELIEVED ,HE HAS TO WEAR BAG FOR REST OF LIFE THO...THEY REROUTED HIS STOMACH AND CLOSED HIS REAR END FOR GOOD,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 27, 2013, 01:09:15 PM
FACE BOOK IS FOR FINNOCCHIO'S ... ;DJUST KIDDING,,,MY WIFE IS ON THERE ALL THE TIME...

My wife has no interest in Facebook. I have a Facebook page where my close friends and family who are spread all over the world and I often communicate. I check in at least once most days.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 27, 2013, 01:17:54 PM
you are the same as me.. i never go to the Doc although i have Colitus and to be honest i never think about it . the best advice is from a Doctor and get it checked ! you are a good man and by the way where is my invatation to eat with you ?

It is a standing invitation. I thought you knew this. We have a large home and welcome guests when our kids aren't in town and occupying the extra bedrooms. For dinner last night we had spaghetti and meatballs, accompanied by a salad and some bread sticks. It was semi-homemade. The meatballs were packaged as was the sauce and frozen bread sticks (identical to those at Olive Garden). The salad was completely homemade with tomatoes, avocados and a sesame ginger dressing. We only fixed enough for two, but if we knew you were coming to dinner, we'd have fixed more. Heck, I might even have gone to the trouble of making the meatballs and sauce from scratch. I make some mean meatballs. I think I was an Italian chef in a previous life. LOL!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 27, 2013, 01:26:37 PM
It is a standing invitation. I thought you knew this. We have a large home and welcome guests when our kids aren't in town and occupying the extra bedrooms. For dinner last night we had spaghetti and meatballs, accompanied by a salad and some bread sticks. It was semi-homemade. The meatballs were packaged as was the sauce and frozen bread sticks (identical to those at Olive Garden). The salad was completely homemade with tomatoes, avocados and a sesame ginger dressing. We only fixed enough for two, but if we knew you were coming to dinner, we'd have fixed more. Heck, I might even have gone to the trouble of making the meatballs and sauce from scratch. I make some mean meatballs. I think I was an Italian chef in a previous life. LOL!
i swear that i will come over to you..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 27, 2013, 01:34:48 PM
wrote to karen she is ok.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 27, 2013, 06:22:51 PM
wrote to karen she is ok.

Good to know. I hope you gave her a good talking to about not letting us know she was simply taking a break. As an old man, one of my "jobs" is to worry about you younger folks. LOL!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 28, 2013, 06:55:02 AM
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CHINS X3 SETS 12 ...GOOD PUMP START BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY WERE TOUGHER THAN USUAL FELT TIRED THIS WORKOUT/LOWER BACK STILL RECOVERING FROM SAT'S LEG DAY WITH 465 SQUAT LOWER BACK WHICH IS 100 PCT ALWAYS FELT OFF :'(..
TBAR ROW INNER GRIP X3 3 PLATES,3.5X2 12/10/1O AGAIN THIS IS WHERE I KNEW I WAS OFF FELT REAL HEAVY USUALLY HIT 4 PLATES
REVERSE HAMMER PULL X3 12/8/8 2 PLATES AND THEN 2 PLATES AND 10/5 ADDED X2
LOW CABLE ROW WITH WIDE BAR X3
FINISHED ROPE ATTACHED STEP BACK AND STRETCH AND PULL TO WAIST LIKE A STANDING PULLOVER X3

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3 WITH 45LB PLATE

BI'S
CURLS WITH STRAIGHT BAR X3 GOT UP TO 115 X7 HEAVIEST SET
DB CURLS X3 35/40/40
SEATED CABLE CURLS SINGLE ARM X3

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 28, 2013, 07:13:25 AM
BACK
CHINS X3 SETS 12 ...GOOD PUMP START BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY WERE TOUGHER THAN USUAL FELT TIRED THIS WORKOUT/LOWER BACK STILL RECOVERING FROM SAT'S LEG DAY WITH 465 SQUAT LOWER BACK WHICH IS 100 PCT ALWAYS FELT OFF :'(..
TBAR ROW INNER GRIP X3 3 PLATES,3.5X2 12/10/1O AGAIN THIS IS WHERE I KNEW I WAS OFF FELT REAL HEAVY USUALLY HIT 4 PLATES
REVERSE HAMMER PULL X3 12/8/8 2 PLATES AND THEN 2 PLATES AND 10/5 ADDED X2
LOW CABLE ROW WITH WIDE BAR X3
FINISHED ROPE ATTACHED STEP BACK AND STRETCH AND PULL TO WAIST LIKE A STANDING PULLOVER X3

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3 WITH 45LB PLATE

BI'S
CURLS WITH STRAIGHT BAR X3 GOT UP TO 115 X7 HEAVIEST SET
DB CURLS X3 35/40/40
SEATED CABLE CURLS SINGLE ARM X3

ABS

yes i know what you mean.. makes you wonder how some of the old school guys trained heavy and 3 days a week only usually having 1 day off between workouts.Today i am resting but will later go for a run..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 28, 2013, 08:20:43 AM
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 yes i know what you mean.. makes you wonder how some of the old school guys trained heavy and 3 days a week only usually having 1 day off between workouts.Today i am resting but will later go for a run..
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I am not sure they trained with the same finesse that many body builders do today. I remember routines being much simpler back then when I also trained only three times a week and supposedly trained my whole body each time. Everything seemed like it was in threes; one often did 3 sets of 10. It was not uncommon to work each muscle group with just one exercise, especially the larger muscles. Many bodybuilders physiques were less detailed then those of bodybuilder today. There is a science to bodybuilding and that science has advanced over the years. Also, most bodybuilders featured back in the day were younger men as opposed who you see today, acknowledging that there were more mature exceptions like Vince Gironda who founded Vince's Gym in North Hollywood, CA.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 28, 2013, 08:21:16 AM
HAVE DELTS/CALVES TONITE DESCRIPTION WILL BE MUCH SIMPLER THAN BACK AND HOPEFULLY LESS STRESSFUL ,,I FEEL GREAT TODAY OTHERWISE,,,BACK TENDER FROM TRAINING,,,BUT RIGHT SORENESS FOR THE VOLUME,LOWER BACK LOOSENED FROM REST /SLEEP.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 28, 2013, 10:16:33 AM
HAVE DELTS/CALVES TONITE DESCRIPTION WILL BE MUCH SIMPLER THAN BACK AND HOPEFULLY LESS STRESSFUL ,,I FEEL GREAT TODAY OTHERWISE,,,BACK TENDER FROM TRAINING,,,BUT RIGHT SORENESS FOR THE VOLUME,LOWER BACK LOOSENED FROM REST /SLEEP.
sometimes i throw in a days rest when i feel i need it like today. I felt a bit tired today...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 28, 2013, 10:23:38 AM
I am not sure they trained with the same finesse that many body builders do today. I remember routines being much simpler back then when I also trained only three times a week and supposedly trained my whole body each time. Everything seemed like it was in threes; one often did 3 sets of 10. It was not uncommon to work each muscle group with just one exercise, especially the larger muscles. Many bodybuilders physiques were less detailed then those of bodybuilder today. There is a science to bodybuilding and that science has advanced over the years. Also, most bodybuilders featured back in the day were younger men as opposed who you see today, acknowledging that there were more mature exceptions like Vince Gironda who founded Vince's Gym in North Hollywood, CA.
yes a full bodyworkout really does tax you fully and in some ways harder than a split routine. I used to do it like you wrote above, one basic move per muscle group. I always found that muscles like my calfes sufferd because i always just gave them a few sets at the end. This is where the split is better because you can pay more attention to detail...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 28, 2013, 03:22:46 PM
I read somewhere that the reason calves are so difficult to develop is because we use them all the time so they are constantly being exercised. I would think this would apply to all the leg muscles, but apparently we use some more than others. No matter how much I exercise my calves they stay at a solid 15.5". Maybe I should work on shrinking everything else around them so they will look big by comparison. I do have rather thin ankles, but my feet have always been huge. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 28, 2013, 07:03:16 PM
I read somewhere that the reason calves are so difficult to develop is because we use them all the time so they are constantly being exercised. I would think this would apply to all the leg muscles, but apparently we use some more than others. No matter how much I exercise my calves they stay at a solid 15.5". Maybe I should work on shrinking everything else around them so they will look big by comparison. I do have rather thin ankles, but my feet have always been huge. 
i do alot of weight ,stretch reps,supersets,squeeze at top,slow to somewhat quicker type reps,,,some drop sets with set increasing weight sets too like 3 sets with weights increased each set but keeping reps high 10 reps to a total 30 rep set...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 01, 2013, 05:24:34 AM
i do alot of weight ,stretch reps,supersets,squeeze at top,slow to somewhat quicker type reps,,,some drop sets with set increasing weight sets too like 3 sets with weights increased each set but keeping reps high 10 reps to a total 30 rep set...
drops sets or Descending sets i never do...maybe thatīs a mistake.. might do them on my leg workout.. maybe even with squats... can get my 2 sons to strip weight of the bar for say 3 drop sets...maybe even just 2 if the intensity is high...in fact Steve you got me thinking here... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 01, 2013, 05:40:03 AM
Today i will work arms:
warm up and Abs: Crunches SUPERSET with Rev Crunch 3xmax
 Supersets:
Incline DB curls 3x8-10
incline EZ bar french press 3x8-10

BB curls 3x8-10
Close grip Benches 3x10

Concentration curls 3x12-15
seated 1 arm Tri Extensions 3x12-15

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 01, 2013, 05:45:47 AM
I read somewhere that the reason calves are so difficult to develop is because we use them all the time so they are constantly being exercised. I would think this would apply to all the leg muscles, but apparently we use some more than others. No matter how much I exercise my calves they stay at a solid 15.5". Maybe I should work on shrinking everything else around them so they will look big by comparison. I do have rather thin ankles, but my feet have always been huge. 
i did read this too, was it Reg Park who said this?(he used massive weight in standing raises). Good to see you on Facebook.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 01, 2013, 09:21:38 AM
DELTS
DB PRESS 45/50/55/60/65 12/10
FRONT PRESS SUPERSET WITH SIDE LATERALS
CABLE HI PULL REAR TRAP UPPER AND REAR DELT WITH SMALL CABLE BAR USED FOR LOW PULLY ROW PULL TO CHEST
2 SETS UPRIGHTS
2 SETS FRONT RAISE CURL BAR UNDERHANDED GRIP REVERSE

SHRUGS
FOREARMS ROPE ROLL OVER AND UNDER
BEHIND BACK CABLE WRIST CURL

CALVES STANDING CALF RAISES
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 02, 2013, 03:23:58 AM
DELTS
DB PRESS 45/50/55/60/65 12/10
FRONT PRESS SUPERSET WITH SIDE LATERALS
CABLE HI PULL REAR TRAP UPPER AND REAR DELT WITH SMALL CABLE BAR USED FOR LOW PULLY ROW PULL TO CHEST
2 SETS UPRIGHTS
2 SETS FRONT RAISE CURL BAR UNDERHANDED GRIP REVERSE

SHRUGS
FOREARMS ROPE ROLL OVER AND UNDER
BEHIND BACK CABLE WRIST CURL

CALVES STANDING CALF RAISES
looking good as always  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 02, 2013, 03:40:05 AM
so legs today:
jump rope and 3x50 full sit ups.

Leg extensions 5x15 (superset)
leg curls 5x15

Squats 5x10 (the last set i will do drop sets and i will try for 3 drops in weight) so therefor my routine today will be intensive enough for me with just Barbell squats. I never do drop sets so it will be wise for me to break in easy today... ;D

seated Barbell calf raises 5x15+
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 02, 2013, 04:01:22 PM
good workout donny,,,,

legs today
leg press warmed up 2 plate's then jumped 4,5,6,7,reps all 10 or as high as 12
hacks 3 plates ,4 plates,5 plates all 10 or more reps
lunges 45 lb plate each hand up,down,up, down flight stairs x2
leg extensions 220 15,235 x12,250 x12

hams stiff legged 135 x12,185 x10,235 x10 usually 275 but last leg workout with 465 squat was tough one,,lower back heavy week with back too.leg curls x3

calved supersett 10 reps legs press with 10 reps seated calf raise 3 plates per side press and 3 plates on seated front loaded calf raise...did 3.5 plates on 3rd set of the leg press extra gusto,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 03, 2013, 12:08:44 AM
At this moment, I am a bit high on scotch. My right knee and lower right leg is feeling no pain or any other discomfort. Not that I am recommending scotch as a treatment for whatever ails me. It does make me wonder though, if I am just being a baby about this or if there is something really wrong with my leg.

I hate getting old. Today, I spoke with my sister. She is fifteen years junior to me. She is suffering from COPD and she sounds horrible on the phone. My other sister died a couple of years ago from lung cancer. She was a smoker. Our mother was a very heavy smoker who died from emphysema at the young age of sixty-one. My sisters and I were exposed to her heavy smoking habit, but they more then me for more reasons then I care to go into here. Anyway, I wonder how much our mom's  habitual smoking habit affected them and for that matter my step-dad who died from lung cancer despite the fact that he mainly smoked cigars and never inhaled. I wonder what saved me, well back then among other things I was very much an outdoor kid. Furthermore, I was not exposed to my mom's smoking habit for several years when I was very young because I did not live with her.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 03, 2013, 05:49:01 AM
good workout donny,,,,

legs today
leg press warmed up 2 plate's then jumped 4,5,6,7,reps all 10 or as high as 12
hacks 3 plates ,4 plates,5 plates all 10 or more reps
lunges 45 lb plate each hand up,down,up, down flight stairs x2
leg extensions 220 15,235 x12,250 x12

hams stiff legged 135 x12,185 x10,235 x10 usually 275 but last leg workout with 465 squat was tough one,,lower back heavy week with back too.leg curls x3

calved supersett 10 reps legs press with 10 reps seated calf raise 3 plates per side press and 3 plates on seated front loaded calf raise...did 3.5 plates on 3rd set of the leg press extra gusto,,,
you put the work in your leg workouts thatīs for sure and your calfes too!! my workout yesterday was short but still hurt...lol
At this moment, I am a bit high on scotch. My right knee and lower right leg is feeling no pain or any other discomfort. Not that I am recommending scotch as a treatment for whatever ails me. It does make me wonder though, if I am just being a baby about this or if there is something really wrong with my leg.

I hate getting old. Today, I spoke with my sister. She is fifteen years junior to me. She is suffering from COPD and she sounds horrible on the phone. My other sister died a couple of years ago from lung cancer. She was a smoker. Our mother was a very heavy smoker who died from emphysema at the young age of sixty-one. My sisters and I were exposed to her heavy smoking habit, but they more then me for more reasons then I care to go into here. Anyway, I wonder how much our mom's  habitual smoking habit affected them and for that matter my step-dad who died from lung cancer despite the fact that he mainly smoked cigars and never inhaled. I you wonder what saved me, well then among other things I was very much an outdoor kid. Furthermore, I was not exposed to my mom's smoking habit for several years when I was very young because I did not live with her.   
i think you have to just try to stay positive while you are here..i know a few guys who died very early in their 20s and 30s...just enjoy the scotch Jay... ;D fraid i canīt drink it...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 03, 2013, 05:56:55 AM
so...nice fresh breeze outside, will go with a friend running. looked in the new Gym just opening near us the other night while running past. spoke to the Boss and 2 girls who will work in there. Itīs going to open Monday tomorrow( itīs now 14.53 in Germany ) on Sunday. not bad size and brand new equipment. One of the girls was a cute blond.. ;) just the right age for my son... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 03, 2013, 07:31:43 AM
hey guys off day legs sore,,,italian homeade dinner today spaghetti,homeade sauce/meatball's/wife makes garlic bread too better than resteraunt/pizzaria,,,and vino too...donny/jay feel good,get moving enjoy today,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 03, 2013, 11:32:19 AM
hey guys off day legs sore,,,italian homeade dinner today spaghetti,homeade sauce/meatball's/wife makes garlic bread too better than resteraunt/pizzaria,,,and vino too...donny/jay feel good,get moving enjoy today,,,,
you have a good time too...i had a great run...got my old pumper working hard... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 03, 2013, 12:49:54 PM
you put the work in your leg workouts thatīs for sure and your calfes too!! my workout yesterday was short but still hurt...lol i think you have to just try to stay positive while you are here..i know a few guys who died very early in their 20s and 30s...just enjoy the scotch Jay... ;D fraid i canīt drink it...

I just read what I posted last night. Obviously, I was having a period of melancholia. I am back to normal today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 03, 2013, 01:43:13 PM
Don't worry big Jay....we all have these moments....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 04, 2013, 06:01:26 AM
 Chest workout today is:

30 Burpees and Reverse crunches 3xmax.

Parallel bar dips 2xmax superset with
Decline DB flyes 2x10-12

Flat DB press 2x10 Superset with
Flat DB flyes 2x10-12

Incline DB press 2x10 Superset with
Incline DB Flyes 2x10-12

later tonight a 45 min run.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 04, 2013, 07:36:50 AM
Chest workout today is:

30 Burpees and Reverse crunches 3xmax.

Parallel bar dips 2xmax superset with
Decline DB flyes 2x10-12

Flat DB press 2x10 Superset with
Flat DB flyes 2x10-12

Incline DB press 2x10 Superset with
Incline DB Flyes 2x10-12

later tonight a 45 min run.
I HAVE CHEST 2 NITE,,MY DINNER WITH 1/2 BOTTLE WINE I DRANK I FEEL IT TODAY AT WORK,ALSO MADE NICE ANTIPASTO AS WELL MOZZARELLA,PROVOLONE,OLIVES,ROASTED PEPPERS,ARTICHOKES
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 04, 2013, 11:19:10 AM
I HAVE CHEST 2 NITE,,MY DINNER WITH 1/2 BOTTLE WINE I DRANK I FEEL IT TODAY AT WORK,ALSO MADE NICE ANTIPASTO AS WELL MOZZARELLA,PROVOLONE,OLIVES,ROASTED PEPPERS,ARTICHOKES
you and jay should get together... ;D got to admit i canīt handle it anymore drinking and the next day working...i aint 18 anymore. Used to at that age drink all night party and go in Brothels( just looking at the Girls ) get in camp shower, breakfast and still stand to attention on parade...lol well i had a great run tonight pushed it abit harder. wrapped up well and really sweated. Itīs like 20 rep squats because itīs in your mind..my lungs were bustin but i always find the strength do get up that hill..then the second hill...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 04, 2013, 07:55:04 PM
chest
fdb press 60/70/80/85/90/90 12/6 reps...
hammer press sit up lower /mid chest x3 2 plate.2.5,3 plates
inc press 185/185/195 8/8/6
cable crossovers x3
superset dips/pushups x2..

tri's triset extension machine,pushdown,reverse grip pushdown x3 30 reps set...
cable kick backs x3 just cable ball no handle better grip..

abs,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 05, 2013, 07:57:07 AM
chest
fdb press 60/70/80/85/90/90 12/6 reps...
hammer press sit up lower /mid chest x3 2 plate.2.5,3 plates
inc press 185/185/195 8/8/6
cable crossovers x3
superset dips/pushups x2..

tri's triset extension machine,pushdown,reverse grip pushdown x3 30 reps set...
cable kick backs x3 just cable ball no handle better grip..

abs,,
the superset of Dips and push ups i like too..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 05, 2013, 08:06:28 AM
Today was Back:
jump rope 10 mins 1 minute skipping and 30 seconds leg raises on floor(hands under buttocks) the 30 seconds leg raises are rest time and not included in the 10 mins actual jumping rope so 10x 1 min skipping and 10x 30 secs leg raises.

Sternum chins 3x max
Bent over Barbell rowing 5x10 Superset with
DB pullovers 5x15
Deadlifts 5x10

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 05, 2013, 04:34:22 PM
I finally made an appointment with the doctor for tomorrow morning to find out what the heck is going on with my right leg. At this point, I have constant, but fairly mild pain from the back of the knee down my calf and on the bottom of my foot as well as in the shin. I was lobbying at the State Capitol with a group of friends yesterday, some of who agree that it is probably sciatica. One lady who has trouble with sciatica is getting acupuncture, which she says has relieved all the pain. I am not sure my medical insurance covers acupuncture.

I've tried mild exercises with no noticeable benefit. Of course there is always the possibility I am doing the wrong exercises. Since spinal issues are what causes sciatica I imagine I need to exercise my spine to relieve the pressure on that nerve....but then, I am not a doctor which is why I decided it might be time to see one.

Also today, I had blood work done for the urologist who I see on the 15th. Not only will the lab check my PSA, they are also going to check my testosterone levels. My guess is they are in the toilet which helps explain my total lack of energy and recent bouts of depression. Fortunately, if my testosterone is low, like it was in the time prior to being diagnosed with prostate cancer, getting it back up to par should be simple as long and my PSA indicates that I am still prostate cancer free. One wonders how that could be otherwise since I no longer have a prostate. Injecting testosterone cypionate once each week is not my favorite chore, but I did like the improvements in made in my mood and energy levels when I was on it before.

I need to get this old fart fixed up and in shipshape so that I start back with a regular gym schedule. I am simply not ready to just "veg" for the rest of my life.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 05, 2013, 04:41:28 PM
I finally made an appointment with the doctor for tomorrow morning to find out what the heck is going on with my right leg. At this point, I have constant, but fairly mild pain from the back of the knee down my calf and on the bottom of my foot as well as in the shin. I was lobbying at the State Capitol with a group of friends yesterday, some of who agree that it is probably sciatica. One lady who has trouble with sciatica is getting acupuncture, which she says has relieved all the pain. I am not sure my medical insurance covers acupuncture.

I've tried mild exercises with no noticeable benefit. Of course there is always the possibility I am doing the wrong exercises. Since spinal issues are what causes sciatica I imagine I need to exercise my spine to relieve the pressure on that nerve....but then, I am not a doctor which is why I decided it might be time to see one.

Also today, I had blood work done for the urologist who I see on the 15th. Not only will the lab check my PSA, they are also going to check my testosterone levels. My guess is they are in the toilet which helps explain my total lack of energy and recent bouts of depression. Fortunately, if my testosterone is low, like it was in the time prior to being diagnosed with prostate cancer, getting it back up to par should be simple as long and my PSA indicates that I am still prostate cancer free. One wonders how that could be otherwise since I no longer have a prostate. Injecting testosterone cypionate once each week is not my favorite chore, but I did like the improvements in made in my mood and energy levels when I was on it before.

I need to get this old fart fixed up and in shipshape so that I start back with a regular gym schedule. I am simply not ready to just "veg" for the rest of my life.
listen to me now Jay. you go to the Doctor ok and get it sorted.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 05, 2013, 04:47:53 PM
i know how you are i am like that too .. i need to go too, to see the Doc about my Colitis.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 05, 2013, 05:32:29 PM
i know how you are i am like that too .. i need to go too, to see the Doc about my Colitis.

I couldn't agree with your more. I doubt ignoring colitis will result in it magically going away. There is a reason you have this issue. If you can work this out, think how much better you will feel. Take the excellent advice you offered me and you go to the doctor, make that appointment now and keep it. Don't just talk about it or worse, worry about it, but not doing anything constructive.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 05, 2013, 06:15:45 PM
I couldn't agree with your more. I doubt ignoring colitis will result in it magically going away. There is a reason you have this issue. If you can work this out, think how much better you will feel. Take the excellent advice you offered me and you go to the doctor, make that appointment now and keep it. Don't just talk about it or worse, worry about it, but not doing anything constructive.
thank you Jay i have made an appointment (Really) i need to do it. the medicine they gave me was salofalk stik(stick) whch ís granules i swallow on my tongue, more direct than tablets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 06, 2013, 12:43:52 AM
thank you Jay i have made an appointment (Really) i need to do it. the medicine they gave me was salofalk stik(stick) whch ís granules i swallow on my tongue, more direct than tablets.

Bravo! It pleases me to no end that you have made this excellent decision. Our heath is precious. Protecting it allows us to be all that we can be.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 06, 2013, 06:52:53 AM
Today i will have a rest day. I have had too much on today and tonight i have to be at a group. well work comes first. I will train tomorrow. i have been cycling this morning so at least some movement !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 06, 2013, 04:01:58 PM
I woke up with a watery eye, which is probably allergies acting up. -Spent the morning going to the doctor, first for me then then for my wife. While my doctor gets me right in on time every visit, my wife's neprologist is always running late. Today we waited an hour to see her. The good news is we are both healthy and that is what counts. I came home and went back to bed because my eye was so annoying. I just woke up a half hour ago....sleeping during the day when the weather is bad is like hibernating and since I am hairy like a bear, it makes sense. LOL.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 06, 2013, 05:05:35 PM
I woke up with a watery eye, which is probably allergies acting up. -Spent the morning going to the doctor, first for me then then for my wife. While my doctor gets me right in on time every visit, my wife's neprologist is always running late. Today we waited an hour to see her. The good new is we are both healthy and that is what counts. I came home and went back to bed because my eye was so annoying. I just woke up a half hour ago....sleeping during the day when the weather is bad is like hibernating and since I am hairy like a bear, it makes sense. LOL.
well why not ? worked all your life enjoy the peace Jay.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 06, 2013, 07:44:22 PM
back nite did the dj181 challenge,,,,120's one arm row

chins x3 15/12 rep zone
hammer reverse pulldown  x3 2 plates per side then added some change next 2,,,10/8/8/
single arm rows knee on bench switch sides and knee lol,,,100 x10/110 x8.120's woooo,,,x8 was pretty freaking heavy.
low cable row's x3
wide grip chest to pad tbar row

hypers 45 lb plate

bi's
db curls 30 x12 swiched it up double arm to single then few 1/4 reps each set,35,40,40
seated scott curl machine weighted stack type..x3
curls standard straight bar 85x10,95 x10,105 x8,85 x8

abs sets 30 lying on mat legs propped on bench
roman chair crunches side to side...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 07, 2013, 08:56:18 AM
Today i trained shoulders:
warm up and Abs  
Tri set:
Front raises 3x10
side raises 3x10
rear delt raises 3x10

Barbell clean and press(from Floor) 5x8-10 (felt these after the raises)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 07, 2013, 08:59:29 AM
Today i trained shoulders:
warm up and Abs  
Tri set:
Front raises 3x10
side raises 3x10
rear delt raises 3x10

Barbell clean and press(from Floor) 5x8-10 (felt these after the raises)
DELTS 2 NITE DUDE....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 07, 2013, 09:05:54 AM
DELTS 2 NITE DUDE....
yeah blast them man...mine are pumped still. I mean after the laterals my delts were tired and so i did the clean and press to finish it off. More i did not need to do... soon iīm going for a run.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 07, 2013, 09:07:31 AM
yeah blast them man...mine are pumped still. I mean after the laterals my delts were tired and so i did the clean and press to finish it off. More i did not need to do... soon iīm going for a run.
I'VE DONE TRISET FEW WKS AGO ,,PRESS/SIDE LATERAL/REAR LATERAL 3X AROUND DELTS PUMPED THROUGH SHIRT LIKE 2 CANTELOPES LOL...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 07, 2013, 09:09:12 AM
I'VE DONE TRISET FEW WKS AGO ,,PRESS/SIDE LATERAL/REAR LATERAL 3X AROUND DELTS PUMPED THROUGH SHIRT LIKE 2 CANTELOPES LOL...
2 Cantelopes... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 07, 2013, 09:12:51 AM
an old friend got in touch with me and send me a photo from about 1988 when we did ceremonial at Edinburgh Castle...was it so long ago?? the time goes fast. I am the second man from the left in the middle row...was just a boy then lol...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 07, 2013, 09:15:51 AM
an old friend got in touch with me and send me a photo from about 1988 when we did ceremonial at Edinburgh Castle...was it so long ago?? the time goes fast. I am the second man from the left in the middle row...was just a boy then lol...
NEAT,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 07, 2013, 09:18:06 AM
yes i like the photo and i must admit i do not have many from that time..i never botherd much about keeping old stuff but when this was taken i had some great times with the guys in Edinburgh...drinking and girls... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 07, 2013, 10:46:00 AM
I started the back exercises and stretches this morning. My leg feels better already. Duh!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 07, 2013, 11:16:14 AM
Jay that's great ....you'll be fit as a fiddle  in no time
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 07, 2013, 11:34:24 AM
Jay that's great ....you'll be fit as a fiddle  in no time
'FIT A S A FIDDLE'''JAY DO PLAY THE FIDDLE,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 07, 2013, 02:16:57 PM
'FIT A S A FIDDLE'''JAY DO PLAY THE FIDDLE,,,

Nope, but I tinker around on the piano every so often.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 08, 2013, 07:35:12 AM
DELTS
SMITH PRESS X5 135>185 THEN DROP TO 135,,
SIDE LATERALS CABLE X3
REAR DELT UPPER REAR TRAP TOOK CABLE ROW BAR DUAL HANDLE PUT IT ON TOP WHERE LAT PULLDOWN WOULD GO STAND BACK A BIT
PULL BAR TO UPPER CHEST AREA X3
CURL BAR UNDER HAND GRIP FR RAISE X2
FINISH SIDE LATERALS BUT DBELL PINNED TO SIDE LEGS ARMS RAISED STRAIGHT OUT X2..15 SETS,,,TOTAL +

SHRUGS 225/275/275 X10 SUPERSETTED WITH 45 LB EACH HAND ADDITIONAL 10

CALVES X3 8 REPS PER FOOT POSITION FLAT/IN/OUT,,GREAT PUMP.

FOREAMS REVERSE CURL CABLE AND WRIST ROLLS WITH WEIGHTED ROPE..


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 08, 2013, 10:39:50 AM
last eve:

incline smith press   6 sets


partial deadlifts   5 sets


precor biceps curl   6 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 08, 2013, 11:03:34 AM
Great workouts Guys: nice to see the variations in workouts. Good to see you on here George.
I trained arms today:
supersets:
Barbell curls 3x10
lying ez bar extensions3x10

incline db curls 3x10
one arm overhead tri extensions 3x10

concentration DB curls 3x15
DB Kickbacks 3x15

I finished off with a 30 min run.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 08, 2013, 11:08:45 AM
Great workouts Guys: nice to see the variations in workouts. Good to see you on here George.
I trained arms today:
supersets:
Barbell curls 3x10
lying ez bar extensions3x10

incline db curls 3x10
one arm overhead tri extensions 3x10

concentration DB curls 3x15
DB Kickbacks 3x15

I finished off with a 30 min run.


NICE,,,30 MINUTE RUN WHERE YA RUNNING TOO LOL..CARDIO :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 08, 2013, 11:15:48 AM
NICE,,,30 MINUTE RUN WHERE YA RUNNING TOO LOL..CARDIO :P
I need the fresh air... ;D you are lucky you stay lean all year round. I never get fat but i like to work my heart a bit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 08, 2013, 11:18:29 AM
I need the fresh air... ;D you are lucky you stay lean all year round. I never get fat but i like to work my heart a bit.
JUST KIDDING,,,,FRESH AIR IS GOOD,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 08, 2013, 11:32:40 AM
JUST KIDDING,,,,FRESH AIR IS GOOD,,,
i know steve...i have always liked to run and cycle around too. cycling in summer i enjoy and gives my legs a workout too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 08, 2013, 06:16:48 PM
thank you Jay i have made an appointment (Really) i need to do it. the medicine they gave me was salofalk stik(stick) whch ís granules i swallow on my tongue, more direct than tablets.

I have known other people with colitis and so I have and idea as to how bothersome this disease is.  Good for you taking control and making an appointment with your doctor. I will entertain positive thoughts that the doctor will find some relief for you.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 09, 2013, 08:33:38 AM
Today i trained legs..
jumping rope with Dumbbell swings to warm up

I did a very simple tri set today:
Leg extensions 5x15
squats 5x10
leg curls 5x15

seated Barbell calf raises 5x15-20
While only doing 3 exercises sounds not a lot doing it tri set style is working non stop and by the 4/5 sets i was feeling it. The leg extensions warmed up my quads and pre exhausted my quads and so i did not need very heavy weight at all to do the job.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 09, 2013, 08:41:08 AM
I have known other people with colitis and so I have and idea as to how bothersome this disease is.  Good for you taking control and making an appointment with your doctor. I will entertain positive thoughts that the doctor will find some relief for you.
yes it is a very awkward illness and i suppose i have just sort of got used to it as best i can. I do not like taking medicine and when you are ill you have to take cortisone and your face blows up like a ball... :( screws up your training too for a period. Itīs an illness that is always dormant and you feel ok then suddenly itīs triggered and you are really screwed up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on March 09, 2013, 12:48:16 PM
 ;) bulking period over will now concentrate on reining in my diet for the summer monthes so i don't get harpooned. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 09, 2013, 12:52:12 PM
Go for it funky bro ... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 09, 2013, 03:43:44 PM
;) bulking period over will now concentrate on reining in my diet for the summer monthes so i don't get harpooned. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
good luck....lock in .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 09, 2013, 03:58:25 PM
few pics different poses,lighting,ect,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 09, 2013, 06:34:14 PM
;) bulking period over will now concentrate on reining in my diet for the summer monthes so i don't get harpooned. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I have had the same thought lately. What I am doing is eating smaller portions. I would like to drop at least 20 lbs. and in so doing recapture my youth....hope it works. Oh, and I will then get to go shopping for new summer clothes too. Just a little side benefit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 10, 2013, 01:29:15 AM
Just looked out my window..we got snow again !! i mean a few days ago i was cycling around in a t shirt ... :(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 10, 2013, 11:51:02 AM
Tonight i was going to take the soft option and jump rope at home...but i thought get outside and i took a snap shot ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 10, 2013, 03:10:55 PM
did a donny type workout had 45 to 50 minute window today for legs,,,so'''
 quads warmed up and started leg press 4 plates per x10 went to squat 225 x10 then extension 205 x10 stack type pumped
set 2 leg press 5 plates per x10,squat 275 x10 close feet sorry,,then extension 220 x10 very pumped feel seperation through sweats lol
set 3 leg press 6 plates per x10 ,squat 315 x 8 or 9 lost count ,225 x10 extension heaving last of the reps was shot...

then hack squat 4 plates per feet a bit wider than squat and toes /feet slightly out,duck x10 then walking lunges 50 lb db 12 steps or so per leg
up gym floor x2 same weights used

hams
stifflegged dlift 185 x10 superset situp leg curl 180 x10
235 x10 with 195 x10
235 x10 with 195 x10

calves seated calf raise did opposite kind of drop added instead 2 45's x10 added 25 x10 then added 25 for 10 again 30 reps did this 3x around.
adding weight up burns as much as heavy too light,,,,

workout was 50 minutes long partner was sitting down winded every single set ,,i kept moving,standing and even lapped him some sets i was ahead full curcuit then him at times,,,lol,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 10, 2013, 05:44:46 PM
Tonight i was going to take the soft option and jump rope at home...but i thought get outside and i took a snap shot ...


We have been having sunny spring weather all week. It is about to come to an abrupt end when it starts raining tomorrow and continues all week. Well at least I got the moss control on the lawn and mowed it for the first time this season. I think I am becoming one of the people who is obsessed with having the perfect lawn. Not to worry though, this will keep me busy for some time since it was all moss and weeds in the front when we bought the house. All over the yard, there are signs of spring. The daffodils I planted much too late in the season are about to pop their fragrant blooms. There is a sea of lavender, white and purple spring crocus blooming under the red oak. Up by the front door the yellow primroses are blooming and sprouting new leaves. The hydrangeas are budding out. All over the planting beds, if you look really close you can see the first signs of a variety of perennials pushing through the soil. Another month and things should be looking great with all signs of winter gone.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 11, 2013, 05:59:33 AM
did a donny type workout had 45 to 50 minute window today for legs,,,so'''
 quads warmed up and started leg press 4 plates per x10 went to squat 225 x10 then extension 205 x10 stack type pumped
set 2 leg press 5 plates per x10,squat 275 x10 close feet sorry,,then extension 220 x10 very pumped feel seperation through sweats lol
set 3 leg press 6 plates per x10 ,squat 315 x 8 or 9 lost count ,225 x10 extension heaving last of the reps was shot...

then hack squat 4 plates per feet a bit wider than squat and toes /feet slightly out,duck x10 then walking lunges 50 lb db 12 steps or so per leg
up gym floor x2 same weights used

hams
stifflegged dlift 185 x10 superset situp leg curl 180 x10
235 x10 with 195 x10
235 x10 with 195 x10

calves seated calf raise did opposite kind of drop added instead 2 45's x10 added 25 x10 then added 25 for 10 again 30 reps did this 3x around.
adding weight up burns as much as heavy too light,,,,

workout was 50 minutes long partner was sitting down winded every single set ,,i kept moving,standing and even lapped him some sets i was ahead full curcuit then him at times,,,lol,,,
50 mins of quality time in the gym...making the most of every set. good drills  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 11, 2013, 06:07:15 AM
words of wisdom...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 11, 2013, 06:35:34 AM
words of wisdom...

COOL PIC...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 11, 2013, 06:38:14 AM
COOL PIC...
it motivates me steve...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 11, 2013, 08:25:53 AM
it motivates me steve...
GOOD,,,,I DO SAME THING AT TIMES ...MY LEGS ARE STILL PUMPED FROM YESTERDAY,,,LEG SWEEP IS HANGING OF HIP TO KNEEE LOL,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 11, 2013, 08:56:11 AM
GOOD,,,,I DO SAME THING AT TIMES ...MY LEGS ARE STILL PUMPED FROM YESTERDAY,,,LEG SWEEP IS HANGING OF HIP TO KNEEE LOL,,,
then you did the job steve... you train intensive. Only with good exercise selection, sets and intensity can you achieve this. well your pics say it all.. need i say more ? ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 11, 2013, 09:03:35 AM
then you did the job steve... you train intensive. Only with good exercise selection, sets and intensity can you achieve this. well your pics say it all.. need i say more ? ;)
NO :D...BUT THANK YOU ,,,I LIKE SAME THINGS,TRAINING,BUILD TYPE AS U,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 11, 2013, 09:09:17 AM
I am now going to pump up my Chest:
 Jump rope and 30 Dumbbell swings.

Tri-set
Flat DB Bench press 4x6-10
Incline flyes 4x10-15
Parallel Bar Dips 4x6-10

see how this works without incline press. Always wanted to try this tri set which i have in a book from Bob Kennedy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 11, 2013, 09:09:59 AM
I am now going to pump up my Chest:
 Jump rope and 30 Dumbbell swings.

Tri-set
Flat DB Bench press 4x6-10
Incline flyes 4x10-15
Parallel Bar Dips 4x6-10

see how this works without incline press. Always wanted to try this tri set which i have in a book from Bob Kennedy.
NICE PUMP ROUTINE,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 11, 2013, 09:10:47 AM
NO :D...BUT THANK YOU ,,,I LIKE SAME THINGS,TRAINING,BUILD TYPE AS U,,
Thanks but you are better developed than me steve.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 11, 2013, 09:43:40 AM
Thanks but you are better developed than me steve.
[/quote
I MEANT LIKE ZANE,PARIS ,PEARL,LABRADA AND SOME OF THE OLD SCHOOL 70'S GUYS RIPPED BUT NOT BLOATED AND RIPPED WITH STUPID NON FLOWING BUILDS ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 11, 2013, 09:49:55 AM
Thanks but you are better developed than me steve.
[/quote
I MEANT LIKE ZANE,PARIS ,PEARL,LABRADA AND SOME OF THE OLD SCHOOL 70'S GUYS RIPPED BUT NOT BLOATED AND RIPPED WITH STUPID NON FLOWING BUILDS ..
yes i totally agree with you Steve. Bob Paris is also a favourit of mine that you mentioned.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 11, 2013, 09:52:56 AM
 :)
http://www.bobparis.com/
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 11, 2013, 10:04:14 AM
:)
http://www.bobparis.com/
i read some of it quick cool,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 11, 2013, 07:51:21 PM
chest
fdbpress 60/80/85/90 12>6
incl db 65/70/75 10>8
hammer flat 2 plates x2 10,, 2 plates plus 10 per side 8
cable crossovers x3
dips x12 pushups x12 x2

tris
overhead cable with rope x4
tri pushdowns x3
closegrip x3
cable kick backs x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 12, 2013, 01:30:32 AM
An update on what's been happening with me. Sorry I kind of deserted you guys but I felt frustrated when I couldn't put my training log on line by line. I do miss you all and just miss the banter back and forth as well as the support etc that we give one another.  I should have my laptop back soon. Spoke to the tech person today and basically I have two anti viral progs over riding each other. That is why it's staying on the blue screen with please wait. I bought my pc with both and the tech person is wondering if they sold me a display laptop cause it doesn't come with two. Also my software the display driver keeps dropping out and it has been like this since I purchased it. Software issues are not covered by warranty and I have to pay to get it fixed. I said I would pay for them to remove the anti virus prog and I would keep my norton. They wanted to fix the software issues and take the computer back to how I took it home but that was alot of money and even then couldn't guarantee me the display driver wouldn't drop out. So I said I would try to reinstall that software myself. As far as health goes, the swelling in my nose has come down quite a bit in the past week. It feels better and I have movement in the tip. Before it felt like a hard clown nose. My left ear has some pain but I will let the nose ears and throat surgeon look at this when I see him at the end of this month. Basically that issue went away and then came back when I began training again. Here's a selfie I took today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 12, 2013, 03:09:16 AM
chest
fdbpress 60/80/85/90 12>6
incl db 65/70/75 10>8
hammer flat 2 plates x2 10,, 2 plates plus 10 per side 8
cable crossovers x3
dips x12 pushups x12 x2

tris
overhead cable with rope x4
tri pushdowns x3
closegrip x3
cable kick backs x2

abs
nice steve .. push ups are a great finishing movement. your triceps must be really fried in the fires of Hell after this too... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 12, 2013, 03:11:29 AM
your nose looks sweet in the pic Karen. Infact i want to play with your hair !! ;) you look very fresh and radiate femininity
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 12, 2013, 03:17:11 AM
Thanks Donny, I feel healthy. My hair really suffered when I was taking antibiotics for 16 months straight. Now it feels good again with lots of body and is shiny and soft.  I am watching walking dead on tv. :-)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 12, 2013, 03:53:26 AM
great  to hear you are Healthy.. one film i like is this J Depp film. The Blond in it is very nice  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 12, 2013, 04:44:29 AM
booty gets nose fixed and turns into heather locklear  ;D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 12, 2013, 04:56:38 AM
booty gets nose fixed and turns into heather locklear  ;D...
You really think so??   :D. I just think I look the same but with a straighter nose.  When I had repetitive infections I got very tired and my hair suffered and I didn't look my bubbly self. I looked like crap actually. Now I am just back to my normal self. Hey I just found out that Aaron Singerman, PJ and Dave Palumbo were in my home town doing a seminar and I missed them. I was going to pop into the gym and surprise them but they were at the airport boarding to Brisbane.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 12, 2013, 12:17:39 PM
Today was my Back ..
warm up jump rope with sit ups 3x20-30 superset with hanging leg raises 3x20-30

sternum chin ups 5xmax
Barbell Rows 5x10
Deadlifts 5x10
DB shrugs 3x15

I decided to do straight sets today with a few very powerful exercises and higher sets. On the shrugs i had to use straps. The workout hitting  traps to the erectors.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 12, 2013, 12:26:37 PM
Fitness into your Golden Years...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 12, 2013, 02:01:06 PM
Karen,

My wife, who was looking over my shoulder as I read you recent post, said, "Is that your babe?" I replied, "Of course! But, she lives thousands of miles away." I went on to explain why you were posting that photo and all about your nose surgery. We both agree that it looks really great. In fact, I think I am a little jealous since when I had rhinoplasty 40 years ago, the surgeon wasn't able to reduce my fat nose much. Of course, I would look ridiculous with a tiny nose like yours.

Sorry to read about all the problems you are having with your laptop. I guess I am really lucky in that I have not had issues with my computer equipment since I bought it with the exception of some software conflicts which I have been able to rectify myself at home without the help and expense of a computer technician. One thing I agree with is that you don't ever want more than one virus protection program running on your computer because it will result is conflicts and often eats up a lot of memory and really slows things down. Often times, if you download programs from the Internet, even very legitimate ones, they come packaged with virus protection. McAfee is one I often see bundled along with browser upgrades and installs. I run Norton 360 on my systems. It is supply free by my provider. Every so often I will notice a McAfee icon in the program list. Whenever that happens, I uninstall it immediately.

If you have a start-up or boot disk for your system and you can save all your personal files to a thumb drive or some other backup, (not on your computer) plus you have install disks for any programs you wish to keep, sometimes the best thing to do is to clean everything off your hard drive and re-install the operating system from scratch. If you have never done this before and if you don't feel really computer savvy, I recommend you have a friend who knows about computers help you with this. The first time I did this it was with an old computer I was getting rid of anyway. I didn't want to donate it with any of my information readily available, so I reformatted the hard drive and reinstalled the operating system. It worked like a charm. I ended up putting it away in the attic because I though my grandson would use it. It is still up there. I should haul it out and donate it as originally planned.

 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 12, 2013, 08:20:13 PM
That's the anti virus I had on there..... McAfee. Had a phone call today from the company that has my pc and they are sending it back today so I should have it sometime this week.... Yay!!!  :) they didn't charge me anything to remove the conflicting anti virus prog. I was told they did a recovery too. And so they shouldn't bill me. Anyway in regards to my nose it's probably been bigger then what it was prior to the surgery because I have had swelling. My tip wasn't changed, just the septum straightened. The surgeon said he wouldn't make my nose smaller as it wouldn't suit me. I didn't want a tiny little Michael Jackson nose either.  :D  it's funny cause a friend messaged me on Facebook and said my nose looked bigger and was it healing okay. That's what swelling does, enlarge something duh. Anyway I am sorry that you had your surgery performed 40 Years ago Prime. You might have got what you wanted had you got it done a few years later. Am update on the weather, it's sunny today. After almost 6 weeks of rain and terrible strong winds I think it has gone away. We have had cyclones out at sea forming which explains the bad weather. I am going to see KISS this weekened, am really looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 12, 2013, 09:22:37 PM
great leg workout last eve......


leg extensions  5 sets

leg press  3 sets

smith machine squats  3 sets

stiff leg deadlifts   3 sets

post workout meal: half a pound lean hamburger......cheese... ...two slices buttered bread.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 12, 2013, 09:32:43 PM
Is that enough food for a post workout meal Willie?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 13, 2013, 12:05:03 AM
All virus programs slow down your computer, especially when browsing the internet. Some are worst then others, I've heard McAfee is one that slows things more then some other programs. Most folks favor one virus program over others. I use Norton 360 because it is free from my internet service provider. Norton 360 includes several computer maintenance tool which work well. However, I am not trying to sell you on one program or another. It is really just a matter of choice and trial and error. Mainly, don't try to run more than one anti-virus on your computer at the same time.

The flesh on my nose is thick. It has always been thick, even when I was a kid. Although I suspect plastic surgery and rhinoplasty has improved overtime, my doctor at that time told me that there was nothing he could do to make my nose narrower. Anyway, my nose works fine and changing it no longer interests me. I have grown into it, I think. Plus it is me. I don't care to look like everyone else or some mature Ken doll.

The weather in the Pacific Northwest is nothing like your weather. Very little drama here apart from the rare wind or ice storm. Mostly, it just rains often. The overall rainfall measured in inches isn't excessive. This week has been cloudy with very little rain and warmer, almost 60 degrees. It is just warm enough that all the perennials and bulbs are popping up and the deciduous plants are budding out. Another few weeks like this and we will be full on into spring. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 13, 2013, 03:05:16 AM
I got a really bad virus last year and it was nasty because it was a virus that got into your pc before your Anti virus could detect it. I use Avira Free Anti virus and it has always been good . I took my pc to a guy here who calls himself the pc doc...lol. He looked liked a beer belied rocker and at first i thought does this guy know? He was great.. sorted my pc out in a Day and updated my pc. He said the virus i got was hitting a lot of people and it was not my Anti virus programme failing. Guy never charged much (i phoned up some so called pc technicians who wanted lots of money) i was lucky to find the pc Doc in the internet using my sons pc, the guy just works from home. look around and there is always guys like this doing it on the side..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on March 13, 2013, 09:19:35 AM
Primemuscle, seeing as how the Mature Tread seems to be all things to all people;

 Weather...it's going to be 79 degrees, and very dry, in Escondido,CA today. Going up to Paloma Valley later, about 40 miles north, where it will be 89 degrees. (Steve Reeves had a horse ranch in Escondido, before he died)   Next week we could have flash floods, with extreme rain...just the way SoCal is.

Anti-Virus...most people keep the anti-virus program they got with a new computer. May or may not be a good idea. Might want to go to 'C-net.com' for a quick review of the many very good free virus programs out there. And most all are free. Or write 'anti-virus reviews' in a general search box. I have Avast but have used AVG before. Norton and McAfee seems not to have kept up with the times, for what they charge. MicroSoft's Security Essentials (a free program) has one of the more poorer rating of all the anti-virus programs. E-set and Kaspersky are very, very good but are not free.

People forget that they may need a malware program, as well as a anti-virus program (if not included in that program). Might suggest Malwarebytes as a top program. It has a basic free program or an up graded version. Don't let the term free fool you, some very outstanding anti-virus and malware programs out there...at no cost. Glary Utilities (free) is a exceptional cleaner for any PC....well worth the download.

Just to note: people with Apple computers (any version) will still need some sort of virus or malware program. Apple is never fail safe. Most hacker hate Bill Gates with a passion...so the attack is always on against Apple and getting stronger recently.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 13, 2013, 09:35:39 AM
Trained shoulders today:
Warm up was 10 minutes jumping rope and Dumbbell swing throughs 1x30

Giant set :
Front DB raises 3x10
Side raises 3x10
Bent over laterals 3x10
Seated DB press 3x10

now a lot of people will do the pressing movement first but doing it in this order really pre fatigues my shoulders and really allows me to work hard, working my delts all round. 12 hard burning sets and the rope jumping and dB swing throughs with a light weight warm the shoulders nice.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on March 13, 2013, 09:41:18 AM
If anyone uses more than one anti-virus running program on their computer, there may be a developing program with each program conflicting with one another. Giving false positives, slowing down and generally having the computer not performing at it's full potential. One anti-virus, a good one, is all anyone needs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 13, 2013, 09:46:17 AM
Trained shoulders today:
Warm up was 10 minutes jumping rope and Dumbbell swing throughs 1x30

Giant set :
Front DB raises 3x10
Side raises 3x10
Bent over laterals 3x10
Seated DB press 3x10

now a lot of people will do the pressing movement first but doing it in this order really pre fatigues my shoulders and really allows me to work hard, working my delts all round. 12 hard burning sets and the rope jumping and dB swing throughs with a light weight warm the shoulders nice.
delts are tricky ur either strong or need reps/pump to get them going i'm the latter and do presses at end too and get great pump and i am as trong doing them last then the usual'i'm stronger in beginning so lets press'i think that theory changes person to person.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 13, 2013, 09:51:39 AM
so later i will go for a 45 minute run at a good clip. The real sickening thing about the route i will do is the hills on the way back but this is when it gets intresting and my mind takes over. I detach my mind from my physical pain and i am in a state of zen. I canīt explain this but it is so.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 13, 2013, 09:55:34 AM
delts are tricky ur either strong or need reps/pump to get them going i'm the latter and do presses at end too and get great pump and i am as trong doing them last then the usual'i'm stronger in beginning so lets press'i think that theory changes person to person.
yes i agree Steve.. i actually feel great pressing at the end and am really warmed up.. i also feel i have less chance of injury. I do now and again press at the start but i feel my muscles better after laterals. like you wrote..individual.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 13, 2013, 07:21:47 PM
back
reverse hammer pulldowns x3 plate and 25 x10,2plates x10,2 plates and 25 x8
low pulley cable row x3 180 x10.195 x10.210 x10
chinups x3 12/12/10
bent over rows 185 x10,195 x10,225 x10
tbar inner grip 3 plates,3.5 plates x2 ,,3 total...

weighted hypers

bi's
curl bar premade 80 x12.90 x10.100 x10
db curls 40/40/45 x10
cable rope curl x3
seated scott curl machine x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 13, 2013, 09:27:38 PM
chest....bis.....calves:


incline smith   4 sets

incline flyes   3 sets

seated machine presses  3 sets


seated calf raises   5 sets


hammer strength preacher curls   rest pause

100 pounds for 9 positive reps.....followed by 5 rest pause reps.....4 second static holds.....and slow negatives.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 14, 2013, 12:30:50 AM
Old man here checking in.

I am back doing the core body stretches and weight free movements that my physical therapist prescribed a year or so ago to elevate the discomfort from sciatica as sugested by my doctor at my last visit. So far, I have had some relief, but the pain is still ever present. Maybe I am a bit impatient for a complete cure.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 14, 2013, 06:19:08 AM
Old man here checking in.

I am back doing the core body stretches and weight free movements that  my physical therapist prescribed a year or so ago to elevate the discomfort from sciatica as sugested by my doctor at my last visit. So far, I have had some relief, but the pain is still ever present. Maybe I am a bit impatient for a complete cure.
Jay i am happy(as we all are) to hear you are on the mend. you just got to get on my friend.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 14, 2013, 06:25:21 AM
some great workouts Steve and George....  i like the rest pause in there . I will take a Day off today as i feel a bit tired and i know that a rest day is needed. then tomorrow i will hit my arms with intensity and not just half hearted.  OH..itīs starting to snow again.. :( never mind..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 14, 2013, 07:06:24 PM
If anyone uses more than one anti-virus running program on their computer, there may be a developing program with each program conflicting with one another. Giving false positives, slowing down and generally having the computer not performing at it's full potential. One anti-virus, a good one, is all anyone needs.
Yes I was told this. Have no idea why mine had two. I only kept updated with norton.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 14, 2013, 07:08:22 PM
Old man here checking in.

I am back doing the core body stretches and weight free movements that  my physical therapist prescribed a year or so ago to elevate the discomfort from sciatica as sugested by my doctor at my last visit. So far, I have had some relief, but the pain is still ever present. Maybe I am a bit impatient for a complete cure.
Good to see that you are doing something Prime. Stick with it, sometimes it takes a while before you see results or feel as though you are making progress.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 14, 2013, 07:31:25 PM
donny put some forearm pics after delt workout tonite,,,

delts
superset fr press with lateral side raises 1 arm at a time x4
superset bet over rear raise with underhand curl bar front raise x3
finished with upper cable low row lat bar pull to upper chest from top part cable x2

shrugs x4

calves standing calf raise x5

forarms rope rolls weighted x3 up,reverse up,up again x3....reverse cable wrist curl x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 14, 2013, 08:14:56 PM
What a day! What a day!

Two weeks ago, I took my lawnmower in for spring servicing. When I picked it up they told me that it had run out of oil and this caused the engine to seize up. They were able to get it running but could not guarantee how long the engine might last. Had they called me before fixing it, I would have scrapped the mower because it was nearly 20 years old. Anyway, I paid the $110 repair bill and brought it home. Mowed the back yard and a few days later mowed the front when it conked out. The way it sounded when it died, I just knew it was gone for good.

Today I went shopping for a new lawnmower. After checking out mowers at all the big box stores, I ended up back at the mower shop that repaired my old mower. Interestingly, this was the first place where someone actually approached me to sell me a mower. While the clerk was explaining the advantages of different models, I mentioned the recent repair and the results. He looked up my invoice and offered me $50 for my dead mower off the price of a new one. I decided to go for it. The only problem being I didn't have the old mower with me so I had to go home and get it.

My ride is a station wagon. If I drop the handle the mower fits in the back of the wagon. This is how I hauled it to the shop and back each year when I would get it tuned up. So I loaded the mower in the back and took off for the lawnmower store. As I drove down the hill, I realized I'd forgotten to but the bag in, so I cut through the driveway of some town homes at the bottom of my hill to head back home to get the bag. Although I was driving slow, when I hit the speed bump, the lawnmower handle crashed against the tailgate glass and it shattered to smithereens. Shit! So, what else was there to do but drive on over to the lawnmower shop an complete my purchase.

I spent about an hour on the phone with the company who will be replacing the glass this Saturday. Apparently they were having phone issues and the call kept getting dropped. It took 4 tries to complete the transaction. Who knew I was so patient? My insurance will cover all but $100 of the cost. Nice, now my new mower just got a little bit more expensive. Like I said, what a day!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 14, 2013, 08:42:16 PM
What a day! What a day!

Two weeks ago, I took my lawnmower in for spring servicing. When I picked it up they told me that it had run out of oil and this caused the engine to seize up. They were able to get it running but could not guarantee how long the engine might last. Had they called me before fixing it, I would have scrapped the mower because it was nearly 20 years old. Anyway, I paid the $110 repair bill and brought it home. Mowed the back yard and a few days later mowed the front when it conked out. The way it sounded when it died, I just knew it was gone for good.

Today I went shopping for a new lawnmower. After checking out mowers at all the big box stores, I ended up back at the mower shop that repaired my old mower. Interestingly, this was the first place where someone actually approached me to sell me a mower. While the clerk was explaining the advantages of different models, I mentioned the recent repair and the results. He looked up my invoice and offered me $50 for my dead mower off the price of a new one. I decided to go for it. The only problem being I didn't have the old mower with me so I had to go home and get it.

My ride is a station wagon. If I drop the handle the mower fits in the back of the wagon. This is how I hauled it to the shop and back each year when I would get it tuned up. So I loaded the mower in the back and took off for the lawnmower store. As I drove down the hill, I realized I'd forgotten to but the bag in, so I cut through the driveway of some town homes at the bottom of my hill to head back home to get the bag. Although I was driving slow, when I hit the speed bump, the lawnmower handle crashed against the tailgate glass and it shattered to smithereens. Shit! So, what else was there to do but drive on over to the lawnmower shop an complete my purchase.

I spent about an hour on the phone with the company who will be replacing the glass this Saturday. Apparently they were having phone issues and the call kept getting dropped. It took 4 tries to complete the transaction. Who knew I was so patient? My insurance will cover all but $100 of the cost. Nice, now my new mower just got a little bit more expensive. Like I said, what a day!
i mow and landscape my own yard too jay,,,therapeutic but i get obsessed with perfect cut,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 14, 2013, 11:02:31 PM
i mow and landscape my own yard too jay,,,therapeutic but i get obsessed with perfect cut,,,

A couple of years ago, I bought myself an old fashioned push mower. Unfortunately it does a lousy job cutting the grass. When I bought it, I thought I'd be getting some more exercise while keeping the grass cut. During the growing season, I cut the grass twice a week. Like you, I am a little obsessed with perfection. I just sprayed moss kill on the lawn last week. I plan on over seeding early in April if the weather holds out.

I try and spend not less then a half hour in the yard every day. It is therapeutic. Some days, I just walk around the checking out how everything is growing. At this time of year doing just that can be very gratifying. One Rhododendron is not doing well of three that were planted last year. I have no idea why and it bothers me. On the other hand, I planted a lot of Daffodils and I planted them rather late. They are all coming up. Several Paper whites, which I really like, are about to burst into bloom.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 15, 2013, 05:32:18 AM
Steve you really have great lower arms... outstanding. Lower arm development and grip strength used to be a measure of your strength.. well still is. so Today is Arms and i feel very good today and rested.

warm up jump rope and i will do some shadow boxing to warm up my shoulder and Arms.

Supersets:
Parallel bar dips 3x10 with
standing Barbell curls 3x10

Incline ez bar extensions 3x10 with
Incline DB curls 3x10

DB tricep kickbacks 3x10-15
concentration curls 3x10-15

reverse ez preacher curls 3x10+
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 15, 2013, 05:54:03 AM
one guy i like is Greg plitt. I like his inovation and mental attitude too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 15, 2013, 07:14:36 AM
Keep the pics coming guys . Great work from everyone and prime you can mow my lawn.  It grows fast from the heat and rain we have been getting lately. I hate gardening.  When I was little I did have a part of the garden that was my own to look after. I grew really pretty flowers and I did enjoy this. I think I stopped after a big fat bumble bee chased me one day after I put the hose on it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 15, 2013, 07:55:17 AM
Keep the pics coming guys . Great work from everyone and prime you can mow my lawn.  It grows fast from the heat and rain we have been getting lately. I hate gardening.  When I was little I did have a part of the garden that was my own to look after. I grew really pretty flowers and I did enjoy this. I think I stopped after a big fat bumble bee chased me one day after I put the hose on it.
I wish i had a Garden.. :( as a kid me and my 2 Brothers had to do all the Garden work..we had a fairly big Garden for a council house. My Father grew Tomatoes in his green house and cucumber. He grew yellow and red Tomatoes. since my childhood i have had a taste for them..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 15, 2013, 07:59:34 AM
I wish i had a Garden.. :( as a kid me and my 2 Brothers had to do all the Garden work..we had a fairly big Garden for a council house. My Father grew Tomatoes in his green house and cucumber. He grew yellow and red Tomatoes. since my childhood i have had a taste for them..
nice,,i need my italian heritage to get a real garden,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 15, 2013, 08:06:20 AM
nice,,i need my italian heritage to get a real garden,,,,
maybe one Day we will make a visit to Jay and work his Garden for him and he can cook for us... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 15, 2013, 08:08:41 AM
maybe one Day we will make a visit to Jay and work his Garden for him and he can cook for us... ;D
:)...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 15, 2013, 12:52:36 PM
Today I went to the urologist for my nine month check up following the prostatectomy I had last July. My PSA remains at 0.02 or undetectable, which is excellent. When I did the labs in preparation for this appointment, they also checked my total testosterone levels. Unfortunately, my total testosterone is right at 200 which is extremely low. The doctor said I could resume injecting testosterone cypionate, even though it has not yet been a year since the surgery. The low testosterone explains a lot. Among other things, it explains why I am so tired all the time and why I have almost no ambition to do anything....like go to the gym. I came home and immediately administered an injection. It is probably all in my head at this time, but I already feel peppier.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 15, 2013, 01:22:08 PM
Today I went to the urologist for my nine month check up following the prostatectomy I had last July. My PSA remains at 0.02 or undetectable, which is excellent. When I did the labs in preparation for this appointment, they also checked my total testosterone levels. Unfortunately, my total testosterone is right at 200 which is extremely low. The doctor said I could resume injecting testosterone cypionate, even though it has not yet been a year since the surgery. The low testosterone explains a lot. Among other things, it explains why I am so tired all the time and why I have almost no ambition to do anything....like go to the gym. I came home and immediately administered an injection. It is probably all in my head at this time, but I already feel peppier.
Jay.. to your best health ..sir
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 16, 2013, 05:58:14 AM
so this morning i went for a long walk to warm up my legs before my leg workout today.

Abs: 3x50 full sit ups
 Tri set :
leg extensions 4x15
squats 4x10-15
leg curls 4x15

seated calf raises 3x15+ superset with
standing calf raises 3x15+
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 16, 2013, 08:32:57 AM
legs too nursed a slight wine hangover,a head cold,and some upper trap stiffness/pain,,still managed great workout slower paced than usual

leg press warmup couple plates then did 4 plates x12,6 plates x10,7 plates x10,8 plates x7 ..
hacks x3 4 plates ,,5 plates and finished 5.5.plates
stair lunges with 45 lbs plates per hand up,down,up,down x2
leg extensions x3 sets 12 plus..

hams seated leg curls x4
calves leg press x4
standup calf raise x2 toes pointed in
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 16, 2013, 08:36:36 AM
legs too nursed a slight wine hangover,a head cold,and some upper trap stiffness/pain,,still managed great workout slower paced than usual

leg press warmup couple plates then did 4 plates x12,6 plates x10,7 plates x10,8 plates x7 ..
hacks x3 4 plates ,,5 plates and finished 5.5.plates
stair lunges with 45 lbs plates per hand up,down,up,down x2
leg extensions x3 sets 12 plus..

hams seated leg curls x4
calves leg press x4
standup calf raise x2 toes pointed in
great workout Steve..these stair lunges would have me walking like John wayne for a week... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 16, 2013, 08:45:30 AM
great workout Steve..these stair lunges would have me walking like John wayne for a week... ;D
giddyy up partna,,,dude my head and eyes are so stuffy and on top of that sweating out all the vino i drank,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 16, 2013, 08:53:37 AM
giddyy up partna,,,dude my head and eyes are so stuffy and on top of that sweating out all the vino i drank,,
get a good nights sleep and youīll be OK .. I only drink now and again a beer. Donīt touch any hard stuff. Used to drink Bacardi when i was younger but now because of my illness it would kill me..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 17, 2013, 05:52:45 AM
so the weather here is still a bit cold but i will go for a cycle just to work off my sunday Dinner... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 18, 2013, 08:16:54 AM
warm up 30 Burpees and 3x50 full sit ups.

 Parallel bar dips 3x 10+ superset with
 push ups on push up bars 3xmax

 Incline DB press 3x10 superset with
 Incline Push ups feet raised 3xmax 
 
Donīt look like much but after all 4 pushing exercises my chest,triceps, shoulders were like lead.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 18, 2013, 11:16:12 AM
after working out today i went for a long cycle. I canīt wait untill the weather gets better as i love cycling around and the cycle routes are great here. Cycling to and from work really gets me in shape too and covers my cardio.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 18, 2013, 09:56:08 PM
Ah Sunday dinner....I fixed a corned beef with cabbage, carrots and potatoes. It was so tasty, my wife ate too much and was up sick all night as a result. I've got to stop cooking!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 19, 2013, 01:20:31 AM
Just a quickie.  I was really hoping to be posting from my laptop. I got it today and I can't get Internet working even though it says its connected to my wireless modem. Will have to get it looked at by someone locally. :-(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 19, 2013, 06:46:59 AM
Just a quickie.  I was really hoping to be posting from my laptop. I got it today and I can't get Internet working even though it says its connected to my wireless modem. Will have to get it looked at by someone locally. :-(
you are not having much luck with your laptop...hope you get it sorted Karen..
Today i trained Back:
Warm up and 3x30 V-raises for Abs.

Wide grip pull ups to front(overhand grip) 2xmax
sternum chin ups(underhand grip) 2xmax
Close grip (parallel) chin ups 2xmax.

Barbell Rowing 4x10 (Superset with)
Dumbbell pullovers 4x12-15
Deadlifts 3x10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 19, 2013, 08:59:21 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 19, 2013, 10:11:59 AM
Ah Sunday dinner....I fixed a corned beef with cabbage, carrots and potatoes. It was so tasty, my wife ate too much and was up sick all night as a result. I've got to stop cooking!
I only ever eat a big Dinner on a Sunday. I am out and about every Day and so is my Wife. my two sons are big enough now and cook for themselves. still Sunday is nice as we sit together. I am afraid i canīt cook very well.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 19, 2013, 06:43:26 PM
make it short and sweet fukked my upper back/shoulder are a knot in my scapula fell it moving around and hurts on the bone area of shoulder ,hurt it doing biceps curls no less last week,hurts down to left side arm/forearm,wrist,using herbal neck /shoulder wrap,advil,took extra day rest from chest day and tried chest did reps and could not do any benchh work,could not incline 45's ,could not move on left side 45 lb dbell incline,could not do 1 fuking dip lolloloooolllll!!!pissed as i type this..did all hammer and machine rep work ,,left side body felt gone no pump no nothing a big fuking waste,,,i'm out.....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 19, 2013, 08:25:34 PM
Sorry to hear it Steve. I think getting heat to the area is good and also deep tissue massage . Stretching too I am told ..never had this myself. Getting heat to it will increase blood flow..and massage .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 19, 2013, 10:20:51 PM
Just a quickie.  I was really hoping to be posting from my laptop. I got it today and I can't get Internet working even though it says its connected to my wireless modem. Will have to get it looked at by someone locally. :-(

I am no computer wiz, but this is one of those times when I wish I lived closer to you. My instincts and computer experience suggests that this is just an easily worked through glitch. I would like nothing better than to fix it for you, but to do that I would have to be there fooling around with your laptop.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 20, 2013, 05:27:35 AM
shoulders Today:
warm up: i did a small bodyweight circuit...
Burpees 1 minute
boxing bag 1 minute(really warms the shoulders)
Full sit ups 1 minute
I did this circuit 3 times.

9minutes hard work.

Tri set:
Seated Bent over laterals 4x12
Seated side raises 4x12
Seated Dumbbell press 4x10+

I finished off with Dumbbell shrugs 3x15

my shoulders were fried after this. Working at a fast pace.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 20, 2013, 05:39:06 AM
Be yourself...be all YOU can be... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 21, 2013, 03:36:44 AM
so today is a rest day but i am already thinking about my arm workout tomorrow. I think i will include seated Barbell curls which you do not see often. I agree with the video when he talks of the PRIMARY mover in the exercise. always be a thinking trainer...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 21, 2013, 06:06:06 AM
so today is a rest day but i am already thinking about my arm workout tomorrow. I think i will include seated Barbell curls which you do not see often. I agree with the video when he talks of the PRIMARY mover in the exercise. always be a thinking trainer...

I'VE DONE EM,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 21, 2013, 06:12:29 AM
I'VE DONE EM,,,
what was your opinion of them?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on March 21, 2013, 11:14:32 AM
I'VE DONE EM,,,
try the seated  swingbell version for a greater range of motion and better concentration. these were a reg park favorite.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 21, 2013, 11:19:59 AM
Thanks Funky Bro...i will infact.. :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 22, 2013, 10:54:49 AM
so now i will drive home. My arm workout will be today a superset workout of close grip chins and parallel bar dips for 5 sets each. my normal workout i will not have time to do...still i will get the job done. sometimes you got to adapt to the circumstances.. :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 23, 2013, 04:58:06 AM
this morning i felt a bit rough as i drunk a few cold Warsteiner Beers last night. Just felt the urge so they went down smooth ;D used to call it "Wobbly" in the Army because it does blow your head off... so this morning i was out running with my friend and we run past the new Gym which has opend near me. we were nearly finished our run so we just popped in the Gym for a look. cut a long story short i ended up doing my leg workout in there ..LOL.

I started with some abs. i did 3x 15 rope crunches and 3x30 leg raises.

I did leg extension 3x15 superset with
seated leg press 3x15

Seated leg curls 3x15 superset with
hyperextensions on a 45% bench 3x15
this superset really hit my Hams in a positive way.

calf raises i did on the seated leg press machine 5x15-20 (just going to failure and i lost count) ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 23, 2013, 10:51:55 AM
did legs no squatting trying to keep weight of neck,,some pain/numbness still but a bit better,advil,heat,patches ,,went to gym with some vigor

quads leg pressed was comfortable worked up to 7 plates after 4 sets leading up to and dropped to 5 plates for extra 10 after hiiting 8 reps with 7,,
walking lunges 3 x 40lbs dbells,,
extensions x4 worked up to 250 all 12 rep sets
hams did seated situp leg curls x4
seated calf raise x4

so all in all close to my usual not quite but ok..

then i spent around 45 minutes doing
side laterals  x2
front raise x2
tri cep pushdowns x2
dip tri machine x2
ab machine x3
roman chair x3
just for pump all around...

now chest is weird i guess all back and shoulder get pressed together i feel off just off
cable crossovers x3 but l/s feels off mechanically
chest press x3 seated just struggle to get going l/s
seated hammer lower press 1 plate per side single arm is all i could do i usually do 3 plates per side together so i'm weak pressing

no back work just stretched so maybe back and shoulder and chest pressing is going to be the test ,,i'll live ,,,i;m going to do do total body workouts till i recover it could be a week or weeks who knows,,haven't ruled out 'dr' 'donny'....

2 pics ,,,my upper body felt flattish less pumped looking feel small,,abs ripped tho,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 24, 2013, 02:59:12 AM
did legs no squatting trying to keep weight of neck,,some pain/numbness still but a bit better,advil,heat,patches ,,went to gym with some vigor

quads leg pressed was comfortable worked up to 7 plates after 4 sets leading up to and dropped to 5 plates for extra 10 after hiiting 8 reps with 7,,
walking lunges 3 x 40lbs dbells,,
extensions x4 worked up to 250 all 12 rep sets
hams did seated situp leg curls x4
seated calf raise x4

so all in all close to my usual not quite but ok..

then i spent around 45 minutes doing
side laterals  x2
front raise x2
tri cep pushdowns x2
dip tri machine x2
ab machine x3
roman chair x3
just for pump all around...

now chest is weird i guess all back and shoulder get pressed together i feel off just off
cable crossovers x3 but l/s feels off mechanically
chest press x3 seated just struggle to get going l/s
seated hammer lower press 1 plate per side single arm is all i could do i usually do 3 plates per side together so i'm weak pressing

no back work just stretched so maybe back and shoulder and chest pressing is going to be the test ,,i'll live ,,,i;m going to do do total body workouts till i recover it could be a week or weeks who knows,,haven't ruled out 'dr' 'donny'....

2 pics ,,,my upper body felt flattish less pumped looking feel small,,abs ripped tho,,,
LOL @ dr donny...wish i had the brains. Good to see you are back into some training Steve. Just do what you can and donīt rush things. You will not shrink in 2 weeks infact the rest will do you good. Good idea to just do a few main exercises that cause no pain and help with blood flow. Itīs hard but better to be careful than to carry an injury for weeks or even Months. Today i will go for a cycle. itīs really an icy wind but the there is some sun too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 24, 2013, 05:58:09 AM
That was cold on my bike...i just hope in May itīs warm for my Birthday so i can have a Barbecue... i hate Sundays i am bored...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 24, 2013, 02:26:49 PM
That was cold on my bike...i just hope in May itīs warm for my Birthday so i can have a Barbecue... i hate Sundays i am bored...

Are you a so called type A personality? Why do Sundays bore you? Like you posted to njflex, an occasional break can be a good thing.

Incidentally, the weather in Oregon has turned unseasonably cold in the past week. I am hoping to over seed my lawn to get it nice and lush for summer. Can't do that until the daytime temperatures consistently reach 60°. At this point that looks like it is almost a month out.

I am routinely doing stretches and core building exercises to help with the degenerative disk caused sciatica. It is gradually getting better. Also, I am back on testosterone cypionate to treat really low total testosterone levels, which recent labs indicated were at 200. I doubt a 200mg injection every other week will make much difference, but we'll see. I also started taking Welbutrin XL again, using up an old prescription to see if it helps with what I suspect is depression. I am still sleeping far too many hours each night. Maybe these meds take awhile to have a positive effect.

Enjoy your Sunday. Try relaxing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 25, 2013, 04:26:47 AM
Are you a so called type A personality? Why do Sundays bore you? Like you posted to njflex, an occasional break can be a good thing.

Incidentally, the weather in Oregon has turned unseasonably cold in the past week. I am hoping to over seed my lawn to get it nice and lush for summer. Can't do that until the daytime temperatures consistently reach 60°. At this point that looks like it is almost a month out.

I am routinely doing stretches and core building exercises to help with the degenerative disk caused sciatica. It is gradually getting better. Also, I am back on testosterone cypionate to treat really low total testosterone levels, which recent labs indicated were at 200. I doubt a 200mg injection every other week will make much difference, but we'll see. I also started taking Welbutrin XL again, using up an old prescription to see if it helps with what I suspect is depression. I am still sleeping far too many hours each night. Maybe these meds take awhile to have a positive effect.

Enjoy your Sunday. Try relaxing.
not sure what you mean by a type A personality prime..but it made me smile. I do find bike riding relaxing. Hope you feel better soon and get your sleeping pattern back.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 25, 2013, 04:32:49 AM
Today i will train Chest.
10 minutes jumping rope and 3x30 v-sit ups.

Flat chest Flyes 3x10-15 superset with
dumbbell Bench press 3x10

Incline flyes 3x10-15 with
Incline dumbbell bench press 3x10

finish off with 2 sets of maximum push ups.

After my workout i will go for a run. Depending on the weather.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 25, 2013, 07:33:44 AM
Just did a great run in the woods.. a bit fresh but was ok
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 25, 2013, 12:08:02 PM
not sure what you mean by a type A personality prime..but it made me smile. I do find bike riding relaxing. Hope you feel better soon and get your sleeping pattern back.

You always seem to be busy, whether physically or mentally. You mentioned that you were bored because it was Sunday, suggesting to me that if you are not active you get bored. These features are common in people with type A personalities. Type A personalities often find it difficult to relax. Fortunately, you seem like a genuinely nice person. Many type A folks are total jerks.

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Type A

The theory describes a Type A individual as ambitious, rigidly organized, highly status conscious, can be sensitive, care for other people, are truthful, impatient, always try to help others, take on more than they can handle, want other people to get to the point, proactive, and obsessed with time management. People with Type A personalities are often high-achieving "workaholics" who multi-task, push themselves with deadlines, and hate both delays and ambivalence.

In his 1996 book, Type A Behavior: Its Diagnosis and Treatment, Friedman suggests that Type A behavior is expressed in three major symptoms: free-floating hostility, which can be triggered by even minor incidents; time urgency and impatience, which causes irritation and exasperation usually described as being "short-fused"; and a competitive drive, which causes stress and an achievement-driven mentality. The first of these symptoms is believed to be covert and therefore less observable, while the other two are more overt.

Type B

The theory describes Type B individuals as a contrast to those with Type A personalities. People with Type B personality by definition generally live at a lower stress level and typically work steadily, enjoying achievement but not becoming stressed when they are not achieved. When faced with competition, they do not mind losing and either enjoy the game or back down. They may be creative and enjoy exploring ideas and concepts. They are often reflective, thinking about the outer and inner worlds. Furthermore, Type B personalities may have a poor sense of time schedule and can be predominantly right-brained thinkers.

Understand that this is just one definition of type A and type B personalities. It would be unusual for someone to have all the features of just one personality type. Most of us are a combination of the two. Also people change over time. I was more of a type A personality when I was younger then I am today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 25, 2013, 12:56:56 PM
thanks for that prime.. ;D i do relax sometimes...lol i think i am a bit of A+B...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 25, 2013, 04:10:32 PM
thanks for that prime.. ;D i do relax sometimes...lol i think i am a bit of A+B...

So am I a bit of A and a bit of B. I am right brained for example. However, I am incredibly impatient. Often when I relax, I feel like I am being a slouch. Also, I am always thinking about the things I should be doing. Active relaxation works best for me; like when I take the puppies to the dog park to play. They play while I walk the perimeter of the park. I find this really relaxing.

Incidentally, you do know that one of the causes of colitis is stress.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 25, 2013, 04:25:39 PM
I just got home from the gym. The weather was nice this morning, so I put on shorts as opposed to slacks. I don't know why, but this inspired me to get my butt to the gym for a workout.

I started with 20 minutes of cardio. Then I hit the complete Nautilus circuit. I did one set of 12 reps on each piece of equipment. The gym has a lot of Nautilus equipment. There are at least 2 machines for each body part and sometimes 3. After working every body part using wimpy weight levels for me, I did some stretches on the Precor stretch machine. I mainly stretched hamstrings, lower back, upper back and shoulders, which is about half the stretches outlined on the machine. The last thing I did was hit the free weight area for a forearm and neck work out. There are a couple of reasons why I kept the resistance light; one is that I didn't want to do anything that might aggravate my sciatica and the other is because it has been quite awhile since I done any resistance training and I didn't want to make myself so sore that it would cast a negative shadow on my next workout.

I plan to go back tomorrow to do cardio and core building exercises and stretches. Then I will hit the sauna hot tub and looking at my much to white legs a few minutes in the speed tanning bed.

I had no idea what I was going to do when I went to the gym today. I feel like I did pretty good, all things considered. Enough with this sciatica and depression nonsense I have been posting about. Who knows, maybe the Testosterone Cypionate finally kicked in today.

At this moment I am finishing a glass of mango and banana juice from Naked.  Their drinks are all natural smoothies with no added sweeteners. -Pretty healthy stuff, in my opinion, but also expensive with a fairly short shelf life.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 25, 2013, 07:41:21 PM
did chest still no lay down pressing no power at all really tight like someone pushing weight down on me and i can't push back,can't do 1 friggin dip
i did tho..
seated chest press stack type a bit more weight than last wk
hammer sit up lower machine lower pec still 1 plate per side  :P,usually finish with 3 per side oh well
cables upper and lower can see in mirror shoulder off kilt a bit....still got pump

tris
pushdowns
seated overhead extension machine
cable kickbacks
dip machine seated all in all ok...

abs''
pic better pump,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 26, 2013, 08:05:02 AM
Jay,steve.. great to see you are getting your workouts in. A few exercises and stretches will keep you limber. well today Back...

warm up, dumbbell swings 1x30
               Burpees 1x30
               crunches 3x max.

Parallel chins 4xmax
Bent over Barbell rows 4x6-10
Deadlifts 4x6-10
Dumbbell pullovers 3x15

standing calf raises one legged bodyweight 5x max per leg.

I just did straight sets today just for a change.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 26, 2013, 09:15:43 AM
whole body workout:


incline db press  3 sets
smith machine squats  3 sets
db rows  3 sets
side laterals  3 sets
hammer curls  3 sets
machine dips  3 sets
seated calf raises 3 sets

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 26, 2013, 06:27:16 PM
Jay,steve.. great to see you are getting your workouts in. A few exercises and stretches will keep you limber.

I woke up sore. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, although my workout was beyond conservative when it came to the added resistance. When one slacks off for as long as I have, they should expect to feel a wee bit sore after their first workout in a longtime. Actually the soreness makes me feel good, it brings back memories of earlier times and reminds me that I did something as opposed to nothing. I was a bit concerned that my sciatica was somewhat aggravated....I'll work though this though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 27, 2013, 01:38:12 AM
I am no computer wiz, but this is one of those times when I wish I lived closer to you. My instincts and computer experience suggests that this is just an easily worked through glitch. I would like nothing better than to fix it for you, but to do that I would have to be there fooling around with your laptop.
I appreciate the kind thoughts and I am glad to hear that you think it's a glitch. I still haven't had it seen to by anybody locally as I am paranoid it will come back to me with something else wrong. I need to suss out someone good to fix it. I will start asking people after Easter. Training is going okay. I have had a couple of very busy weekends. Kiss concert was incredible and the icing on the cake was when a roadie handed me a guitar pick with Paul Stanley's autograph on the back. The ink was still wet. Its taken me 33 years to get an autograph from a kiss member. Today was my 5 month check up from the surgeon. He was happy with my nose and said its very clean and my ears are perfect. I had them looked at as well. He took pics and compared them to last time and we can see that the bridge is slimmer. I have noticed that when I do cardio or weights that I am not getting anywhere near as much swelling as I used to. Here's a pic, won't be posting anymore until october which will mark one year for my op.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 27, 2013, 01:41:13 AM
did chest still no lay down pressing no power at all really tight like someone pushing weight down on me and i can't push back,can't do 1 friggin dip
i did tho..
seated chest press stack type a bit more weight than last wk
hammer sit up lower machine lower pec still 1 plate per side  :P,usually finish with 3 per side oh well
cables upper and lower can see in mirror shoulder off kilt a bit....still got pump

tris
pushdowns
seated overhead extension machine
cable kickbacks
dip machine seated all in all ok...

abs''
pic better pump,,,
looking good and glad to hear you are pushing through your injury. Still be careful though
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 27, 2013, 01:42:29 AM
Just did a great run in the woods.. a bit fresh but was ok

Very pretty Donny.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 27, 2013, 05:18:23 AM
nice,,booty...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 27, 2013, 05:20:05 AM
nice,,booty...
yes she is a very pretty woman.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 27, 2013, 05:27:44 AM
whole body workout:


incline db press  3 sets
smith machine squats  3 sets
db rows  3 sets
side laterals  3 sets
hammer curls  3 sets
machine dips  3 sets
seated calf raises 3 sets


let us know how you get on..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 27, 2013, 05:54:55 AM
decided to train shoulders today:
Cycling to warm up with Abs, hanging knee raises 3xmax superset with crunches 3x max.

Superset:
seated side lateral 3x10
seated DB press 3x10

Superset:
standing front Barbell raises 3x10
bent over Barbell raises 3xmax (very hard exercise and i used an empty olympic Bar so i did not cheat)

Barbell rear shrugs 3x15
Barbell front raises could also be supersetted with shrugs as you get traps in there too..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 27, 2013, 08:12:22 PM
back tonite getting back took it easy repped but moved some weight

reverse hammer pulldown did 45 per side,then 2 sets 45 and 25 ,then did 45 25 plus 10,,,usually use 2 45's per side plus change so kinda there
still tough to pull down with heavier weight'shoulder and blade feels tight not fully extended'
did low rows x4 for me low weight but repped 12 got up to 165 on stack usually do 210 but i did not do back close to 2 wks so ok..
tbar pad to chest x3 45,then 45 and 25 for 2 sets total 3 ,,usually do 2 plates and 25 so way off ,,i was kinda hurting here a bit ....
finished with stretch standup pulldown bar to waist on cable crossover x3

hypers no weight x3 lame....

bi's
curls x4 light ,,reps did bar then added 10' then added 5's for 2 sets ,,usually hit 115 to 125 heaviest got pump tho..
seat db curls stronger here got up to 35 lb db's x3
finished cable rope low curl x3

abs,,,
all in all good little pain and good pump,,no real after pain..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 28, 2013, 02:39:27 AM
Other demands on my time got in the way of my making it to the gym today. Besides having a great lunch with a friend, I spent the rest of the afternoon at the Capitol in Salem, Oregon testifying at a rules committee hearing for SB 822 which seeks to reduce contractual public employees retirement benefits. Really fun stuff. I had dinner at 8:15 p.m. My sweetheart of a wife waited for me to get home so she and I could enjoy dinner together. Sometimes I just love her to pieces!

Tomorrow, my sister is having an angiogram and likely an angioplasty. So for me this means I will be back in Salem at Salem hospital to support her for most of the day. She is scared shitless. My friend Pat who had this procedure many years ago said it is easier than going to the dentist. I plan to share this nugget with my sister tomorrow. Hopefully, it will placate her fears.

So it looks like Friday will be the day I hit the gym again. The only other thing scheduled for that day is attending a board meeting.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 28, 2013, 04:20:53 AM
I just wanted to wish you guys a happy and safe Easter. All the best for your friends op PM. I hope it all goes well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 28, 2013, 04:54:18 AM
I just wanted to wish you guys a happy and safe Easter. All the best for your friends op PM. I hope it all goes well.
thanks karen,,u too,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 28, 2013, 05:10:19 AM
Thanks Karen...you're our Easter bunny... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 28, 2013, 06:21:45 AM
I would dress up as a bunny and deliver Easter eggs for you all in here in the mature thread.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 28, 2013, 07:41:44 AM
I would dress up as a bunny and deliver Easter eggs for you all in here in the mature thread.
Oh ..Karen Bunny... yes i feel like a bit of chocolate now.. a Hot chocolate with cream on the Top but first i am going to make a big omelette. I am frozen to the Bone was cycling around all Day and itīs snowing again( i sound like a bit of a wimp here ). Training wise today i will rest then blast my massive guns tomorrow.. ;D(i wish)... can always dream i have arms like Larry Scott.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: falco on March 28, 2013, 09:11:39 AM
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Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 28, 2013, 09:18:19 AM
HEATHER LOCKLEAR JR...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 28, 2013, 05:11:21 PM
Oh ..Karen Bunny... yes i feel like a bit of chocolate now.. a Hot chocolate with cream on the Top but first i am going to make a big omelette. I am frozen to the Bone was cycling around all Day and itīs snowing again( i sound like a bit of a wimp here ). Training wise today i will rest then blast my massive guns tomorrow.. ;D(i wish)... can always dream i have arms like Larry Scott.
I love omelettes.   :P I haven't eaten any Easter eggs and don't intend to. It's Easter Friday here today and I am having lunch with the family. I told everyone not to get me chocolate. Mum gave me a small box of chocolates.  It's cooling down nice here although it was very humid yesterday and I couldn't stop sweating all day. I will start laying in the sun soon as soon as I get a new sunbed.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 28, 2013, 05:13:01 PM
HEATHER LOCKLEAR JR...
haha thanks njflex. She's beautiful so that's a huge compliment.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 29, 2013, 12:50:20 AM
Karen,

I hope you and your family have a wonderful Easter. Are you dying eggs for your daughter to find? I remember my wife and I doing that when our kids were young. Sometimes it is the simple things in life that make it so wonderful. Our kids are grown and long ago gone from the nest. I seems silly to dye and hide eggs for our two canine children, when they would much prefer Milk Bones. So I guess we will have to settle for a more adult style Easter.

We have invited friends for Easter dinner. I am not clear on what we are fixing. We had thought of a rack of lamb, but one of our friends dislikes lamb.

My sister will be with us too. I am bringing her home tomorrow from the hospital. She had an angioplasty today and she is not supposed to climb stairs, Her apartment is on the second floor. Our home has three bedrooms on the main floor. She will be using one of those bedrooms while she recovers. I never thought I would be caring for my sister who is almost 15 years younger than I am. My other sister died a few years back from oat cell cancer which had riddled her body. She was barely 50 years old.

It appears that evil rotten me is going to outlive most of my family. This is cruel punishment indeed for my misdeeds over the years.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 29, 2013, 02:07:40 AM
Jay, you are a good man. Everyone has done a few crazy things.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 29, 2013, 07:49:20 AM
so today was arms:
warm up i did boxing bag 15 mins and crunches 3x max

today i did straight sets:
Close grip bench press 4x6-8
one arm behind neck tri extensions 3x10-12 per arm
lying across body Tri extensions 3x10-12

Seated Barbell curls 4x6-8
seated Dumbbell curls 3x10
concentration curls seated elbow against knee 3x10-15
did not do any forearms
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 29, 2013, 09:19:16 AM
HUMAN BODY IS INDEED A STRANGE AND COMPLEX MECHANISM OF GOOD AND BAD PARTS....1ST  DELT WORKOUT IN 2 WKS ..

CALVES IST STANDING CALF RAISES 5 SETS ABLE TO REST PADS ON TRAPS NO PAIN A WK AGO THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN DAUNTING...LOL

DELTS
DID A LOT OF WARMING OF SHOULDER'S
1... SIDE RAISES STARTED VERY LIGHT 15'S AND GOT TO 30'S AND DID DROP WITH LAST SET BACK TO 20'S,,USUALLY HIT 35/40 ON DB'S BUT 30
WAS HEAVY STILL AND I NOTICED MY L/S SHOULDER MECHANICS WHILE IMPROVED THAT SHOULDER DROPPED A BIT FATIGUED QUICKER
2 ..SMITH PRESS BEHIND NECK USUALLY I DO FRONT PRESS BUT IT FELT LIKE A NO GO SO IDID SOME REAR PRESSING ACTUALLY WENT WELL NO
PAIN JUST LESS WEIGHT THAN USUAL AND AGAIN LOST SOME STRENGHT AS HIGHER WEIGHT USED
3..REAR DELT MACHINE 3X THIS KINDA SHOWED WHERE I'M AT FELT OFF AS I NCREASED WEIGHT I USUALLY DO CABLES BUT DID NOT WANT TO BEND OVER AND ADD STRESS TO THAT AREA..
4...FRONT RAISE UNDER HAND GRIP CURL BAR X3 NO PROBLEMS JUST A BIT LESS WEIGHT...
5...COUPLE SET UP RIGHTS WENT WAY LIGHTER  WORKED BUT AGAIN SHOULDER FELT PINCHED AS REPS WORE ON...

SHRUGS DBELL,, NOW GOING UP OR DOWN WASN'T ISSUE JUST THE PAIN IN REAR UPPER BACK  AND ARM TIREDNESS WAS THE ROOT HERE.
I WAS ABLE TO DO 60/70/75/80 SHRUGS REPPED HI 10/15 I USUALLY DO 100/125 SHRUGS WITH DBELL BUT WAS NOT CHASING WEIGHT EGO
TODAY...

FOREARMS LOL...

WOKE UP WITH MILD STIFFNESS 75 PCT LESS THAN PREVIOUS DAYS AND 100 PCT BETTER THAN WK AGO SO I'M ALMOST BACK
TOOK AN ALLEVE MORNING,,AND AT WORK PAIN IS A LEVEL 2/3 AS OPPOSSED TO EVEN 2 DAYS AGO A 6 AND WK AGO WAS A HARD CORE 10 PLUS,,,,SO I'M ALMOST THERE GUYS,,,,THANKS FOR POSITIVE THOUGHTS' TEAM MATURE',,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 29, 2013, 09:25:41 AM
great workout Steve...like the undergrip raises...good drills .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 29, 2013, 09:30:10 AM
great workout Steve...like the undergrip raises...good drills .
THANXS ,,,STILL WORK IN PROGRESS HERE,,AM REALLY FOCING ON SETTING MY MECHAICS TO REALLY EXECUTE MOVEMENTS AND GET FEEL THAN MY USUAL KNOWING WHERE I;M GOING AND MY BODY GUIDES TO THE POINT LIKE A HORSE TO WATER LOL,,I NEED TIME TO GET FEEL AND LET MY MUSCLE HEAL ,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 29, 2013, 09:39:34 AM
very well put Steve...you are advanced and known your body
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 29, 2013, 07:18:55 PM
zane esque lol,,,actually feeling good,threw ball around with my little girl she's starting baseball co-ed omg,,,she can hit we'll see if with real heavier bat and ball,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 29, 2013, 11:27:58 PM
Just so you know, my sister is already making me crazy. I hope her stay here will be short.

After driving back and forth to Salem for 3 days running, a 100 mile round trip, she asked me if I could drive her home tomorrow to get Easter Baskets for her grandchildren our of her locked bedroom. Her daughter has a key to her apartment, but not her bedroom, because my sister doesn't trust that her daughter won't mess with her stuff.

In one day, I have spent about $250 on filling her prescriptions, buying her a blood pressure testing machine and enough clothes to get through the week because she said nothing but the sweats she had on today fit her. When I suggested she give her grandchildren their Easter baskets when she goes back home, she countered that she needed some patches for her shoulder which were at home. I have the feeling she is attempting to manipulate me. Why did she remember all her other medications and forget these patches? In addition, I advised her to make a list of what she needed from her apartment so that we could get it before I drove her to my house.

Why is it some people, like my sister just keep asking for more. Is it not enough that I have devoted three days time to help her out and offered my home to her while she recuperates from the angioplasty? Can you tell she frustrates me?

My sister is the princess that my mom and somewhat my dad raised her to be. She was adopted when I was almost 15 years old.  My mother had all but given up on ever having another child. I understand why this made her so precious to my mother. I am not jealous of her. Our mother is dead. It is just she and I. She is in for a surprise, because I have no tolerance for princesses and drama queens.

Whew! Glad I got this off my chest.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2013, 05:29:20 AM
i keep things light here usually,,,,jay i hope your sister gets well ,my brother in law was sick and had to get another procedure stemming from
cancer surgery he's fine ,but his 'bag'had to be asjusted it was jamming from scar tissue from surgery.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 30, 2013, 06:00:07 AM
Jay i think you have a good heart but there comes a time to say your opinion. i did this with my brother in scotland. i stopped inviting him over because after a good drink he was like Dynamite.. ??? Told him straight and that was that so we donīt talk much. sad but thatīs life. Anyway Guys and Gals i hit my legs today...
rope jumping 5 mins and 5 mins boxing bag 3x 50 full sit ups.

Supersets...
leg extensions 3x15
Squats 3x10(5 sets but first 2 were warm ups then 3 hard sets with Extensions)

Leg curls 3x15(need to work on my leg curls)
lunges 3x12

standing 1 leg DB calf raises 5x15-20

got to give steve respect on the lunges he does up stairs..lunges kill me. I did them one leg at a time and stationary and not lunging forward. can concentrate better and being honest i was tired.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 30, 2013, 11:26:20 AM
Thanks for the supportive advice regarding my sister. She has been coughing since early this morning. It is 11:15 a.m. and I think she is just getting up, which is fine because she is supposed to rest. I am worried about the cough though. I looked up dry cough and heart failure on the Internet. According to what I could find, this is sometimes a sign of a heart infection.

On a better note, it is a glorious day here. When I went out to get the paper, there was not one cloud in the sky which is that beautiful shade of light blue that makes on think of summer and being on the beach and enjoying the warm sun. My wife just informed me that it is supposed to be 75 degrees and sunny all today. No wonder I put on shorts this morning when I dressed!

I definitely am going to the gym today. I've been side tracked with other obligations since I went on Monday, but now I need that break from the more stressful routine I've been in. I plan to repeat Monday's work out. What little soreness I had after working out is gone now. It is time to give those muscles another little jolt.

We are having leg of lamb for dinner tomorrow. This is a fitting meal for Easter. Our friend Nancy who will be here for dinner tomorrow is getting steak instead. She doesn't know what she is missing. Her partner and the rest of us all like lamb. 

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 30, 2013, 11:36:05 AM
Jay i like how you come over.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2013, 06:23:40 PM
legs today full throttle...back was alittle stiff and some pain at work in shoulder its not full recovery i guess yet :-\..

quads
extensions warmed up and 5 sets to 250 on the stack all for 12 reps..
leg press 5 plates x12,6 plates x12,7 plates x10,8 plates x6 heavy....
close feet squats 275x12,315 x10,365 x10
walking db lunges 50lb dbs...

hams
seated and lying curls x3 and x3...

calf raise leg press x3 and standing calf raise x3 10 to 15 rep sets

snapped 2 pumped pics,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 30, 2013, 07:07:07 PM
Outstanding. Look solid and hard.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2013, 07:20:35 PM
Outstanding. Look solid and hard.
thanx my brotha,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 30, 2013, 08:36:47 PM
I took a photo of myself at the gym today using my smart phone. I'd thought to post it here as a before photo, since I have been mostly not getting to the gym on any regular basis for over a year now. Unfortunately, after I loaded it into the computer and opened it on a larger screen, it was so disgusting, that I deleted the photo instead. Not only am I old fat and hairy looking, I had a grim expression and the photo was out of focus.

The good news is that I had another (second one this week) great workout. Still using "pussy" weights and sticking primarily to Nautilus equipment, but I did up the weight about 10 lbs. on most exercises. I am using between 60 and 210 lbs. on the weight stack. The lower weight is for no compound smaller muscle groups and the higher for my strength which is legs. I can't believe I was doing 6 reps with 1,000 lbs. on the leg press before I started sloughing off. Now I am using 210 lbs. on the Nautilus leg  press. Still if I increase the weights 10 or more lbs. a week, I'll be back to where I was in no time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2013, 08:46:11 PM
I took a photo of myself at the gym today using my smart phone. I'd thought to post it here as a before photo, since I have been mostly not getting to the gym on any regular basis for over a year now. Unfortunately, after I loaded it into the computer and opened it on a larger screen, it was so disgusting, that I deleted the photo instead. Not only am I old fat and hairy looking, I had a grim expression and the photo was out of focus.

The good news is that I had another (second one this week) great workout. Still using "pussy" weights and sticking primarily to Nautilus equipment, but I did up the weight about 10 lbs. on most exercises. I am using between 60 and 210 lbs. on the weight stack. The lower weight is for no compound smaller muscle groups and the higher for my strength which is legs. I can't believe I was doing 6 reps with 1,000 lbs. on the leg press before I started sloughing off. Now I am using 210 lbs. on the Nautilus leg  press. Still if I increase the weights 10 or more lbs. a week, I'll be back to where I was in no time.
jay have faith,,,consistent,try to make the best of each workout,walk,or what u do in between...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 31, 2013, 05:55:12 AM
Hope all you mature trainers are having a great day... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 31, 2013, 06:47:04 AM
so today i have eaten well and was a great Day with my Family. Later i will go and visit a Friend who is alone, i always invite him but he is a bit of a loner. He used to drink too much but is now off the drink. Well anyway he is an ex soldier too and i like him.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 31, 2013, 08:00:40 AM
happy easter,,,buono pasqua,,,,lil american/italian there,,,went to mass had to take 3 yr old out by 35 minutes in she was out of control ,,we live block away so walk home wasn't so bad,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 31, 2013, 08:51:10 AM
happy easter,,,buono pasqua,,,,lil american/italian there,,,went to mass had to take 3 yr old out by 35 minutes in she was out of control ,,we live block away so walk home wasn't so bad,,,
part of being a Father...lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 31, 2013, 08:57:39 AM
part of being a Father...lol
yeah..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 31, 2013, 09:05:48 AM
Steve you love your girls to bits i am sure.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 31, 2013, 09:08:40 AM
Steve you love your girls to bits i am sure.
i want to kill em lol,,,going on there scooters ,,,i have to change out of dress clothes to sweats :-\,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 31, 2013, 09:16:29 AM
i want to kill em lol,,,going on there scooters ,,,i have to change out of dress clothes to sweats :-\,,,
steve you love them...i wish i spent more time with my 2 boys as kids but i was always away on tours. I can only say cherish the moments.. really.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 31, 2013, 10:07:06 AM
you know i really like Greg Plitts training style. I like as i wrote before his motivation to train others.. sure he makes money but he is a good Guy in my opinion.
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Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 31, 2013, 10:33:58 AM
you know i really like Greg Plitts training style. I like as i wrote before his motivation to train others.. sure he makes money but he is a good Guy in my opinion.
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guy is in great shape,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 31, 2013, 10:37:06 AM
yeah that is for me real fitness. seen the Guy climbing rope? very fit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 31, 2013, 10:38:04 AM
yeah that is for me real fitness. seen the Guy climbing rope? very fit.
i believe in functional muscle,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 31, 2013, 10:42:45 AM
i believe in functional muscle,,,
i do too..being fit and being strong.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 31, 2013, 03:22:35 PM
jay have faith,,,consistent,try to make the best of each workout,walk,or what u do in between...

Legs are a bit sore from yesterday. I'm not sure how much is from training them and how much is the sciatica. I am going to use the Tens pads on my back tonight to see if that helps with the sciatica.

Awhile back I mentioned that we have great walking trails near our home. I took some snap shots of the dogs taking me for a walk, which I'd meant to post.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 31, 2013, 07:44:36 PM
nice jay,,,easter dinner was quiet for us ,,wife worked 2/ 12 hr shifts ,,so she rested after church and woke in late afternoon ,,we ordered dinner ,,have to say after eating traditional easter lamb/pasta/meatball/brajole dinners for yrs ,,a bit of different take,,had italian food tho mozzarella/proscuitto appetizer,wife had fettucine with shrimp,i had chicken balsamic herb with whole wheat penne,,nice bottle white italian wine gavi a more fruit /dry white over say a pinot grigio,,cannolis and espresso..ciao..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 01, 2013, 03:49:29 AM
Karen,

I hope you and your family have a wonderful Easter. Are you dying eggs for your daughter to find? I remember my wife and I doing that when our kids were young. Sometimes it is the simple things in life that make it so wonderful. Our kids are grown and long ago gone from the nest. I seems silly to dye and hide eggs for our two canine children, when they would much prefer Milk Bones. So I guess we will have to settle for a more adult style Easter.

We have invited friends for Easter dinner. I am not clear on what we are fixing. We had thought of a rack of lamb, but one of our friends dislikes lamb.

My sister will be with us too. I am bringing her home tomorrow from the hospital. She had an angioplasty today and she is not supposed to climb stairs, Her apartment is on the second floor. Our home has three bedrooms on the main floor. She will be using one of those bedrooms while she recovers. I never thought I would be caring for my sister who is almost 15 years younger than I am. My other sister died a few years back from oat cell cancer which had riddled her body. She was barely 50 years old.

It appears that evil rotten me is going to outlive most of my family. This is cruel punishment indeed for my misdeeds over the years.
Jay I had a lovely Easter apart from some stress from a guy. Other than that it was great. We had a family lunch on Friday and then I was home alone as my teenage children had their own plans. So I had a date that night. Then I had lunch with close girlfriends on Saturday and then went out on Sunday night with my best friend. Didn't dye Easter eggs as the kids are growing up and doing their own thing these days. I am sorry to hear about your younger sister passing away from cancer. It's painful losing someone you love. I still think about my Anatol. I wish your sister all the best and its really good of you to take her in and look after her while she recovers.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 01, 2013, 04:38:13 AM
i will train my chest today with straight sets and 3 pressing movments with Dumbbells.
after my usual warm up and abs i will do:

Decline press 4x10
incline DB press 4x10
Flat press 4x10

all very simple presses. Later i will go for a cycle and get some fresh air. we have a bit of sun today... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 01, 2013, 06:08:37 PM
Today I trained my whole body using mostly Nautilus equipment, as I did last Saturday. One difference is that I did 20 minutes on the elliptical with the incline set at 9 and the resistance at 5 instead of walking on the treadmill. I think it actually helped remove some of the tightness in my right leg which is caused by sciatica. I did increase the weight on some exercises because they were already getting easier. I also did stretches prior to lifting. I stretched lower and upper back, shoulders and hams. I believe I am getting back on track as far as going to the gym on a regular basis.

At 5:00 a.m. my wife got up to use the bathroom and fell. She was on the floor for 2 hours before I heard her calling me. I got her back on her feet then she climbed back in bed to get some more sleep. I kept imagining she was calling me, but every time I checked on her, she was sound asleep. She lost a lot of confidence with that fall, but fortunately she did not hurt herself. I put the walker by her side of the bed for future nighttime or early morning forays into the bathroom. Obviously, her balance is off and she simply does not have the strength to get herself up when she falls. Maybe I need to insist she get one of those first alert things to wear since I cannot get her to keep her cell phone near her side or better still on her. She's had that cell for 3 or 4 years and not used it once yet.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 01, 2013, 07:27:03 PM
chest /tri/abs,,,was in pain today took some advil 2 and 2 after training,,,i felt ok stretching at gym,,,training,,,my workout partner gave this stuff bio freeze its like icy hot but u get it online ,,i;m freezing right now lol...

chest
 iwas able 3 sets of 25 lb dbell lol...x12  last wk i could not do 1....
hammer lower press seated upright 45 lb plate per side just repped and repped
low
er and upper cable crossovers..

tris pushdowns
dip machine
cable kickbacks
extension machine

abs
pump not superpumped but my body is not at least chest wise due to shoulder unable to push lying down able to explode,,chest is my best bodypart and gets pumped insanley with just flyes and dips ,,i can't even do them right now :P :P...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 02, 2013, 12:11:53 AM
chest /tri/abs,,,was in pain today took some advil 2 and 2 after training,,,i felt ok stretching at gym,,,training,,,my workout partner gave this stuff bio freeze its like icy hot but u get it online ,,i;m freezing right now lol...

chest
 iwas able 3 sets of 25 lb dbell lol...x12  last wk i could not do 1....
hammer lower press seated upright 45 lb plate per side just repped and repped
low
er and upper cable crossovers..

tris pushdowns
dip machine
cable kickbacks
extension machine

abs
pump not superpumped but my body is not at least chest wise due to shoulder unable to push lying down able to explode,,chest is my best bodypart and gets pumped insanley with just flyes and dips ,,i can't even do them right now :P :P...

So, are you saying that you were this sore from training or is there another reason? It is good to be a little sore after training, because it lets you know what you did affected those muscles. If you are so sore that you need pain medication, I would suggest you dial it back a notch. This seems counter productive. Not that I haven't been there. I remember working my legs so hard that I wasn't sure I could walk the next day. Like I said, this much torture is counter productive.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 02, 2013, 01:31:18 AM
Today I trained my whole body using mostly Nautilus equipment, as I did last Saturday. One difference is that I did 20 minutes on the elliptical with the incline set at 9 and the resistance at 5 instead of walking on the treadmill. I think it actually helped remove some of the tightness in my right leg which is caused by sciatica. I did increase the weight on some exercises because they were already getting easier. I also did stretches prior to lifting. I stretched lower and upper back, shoulders and hams. I believe I am getting back on track as far as going to the gym on a regular basis.

At 5:00 a.m. my wife got up to use the bathroom and fell. She was on the floor for 2 hours before I heard her calling me. I got her back on her feet then she climbed back in bed to get some more sleep. I kept imagining she was calling me, but every time I checked on her, she was sound asleep. She lost a lot of confidence with that fall, but fortunately she did not hurt herself. I put the walker by her side of the bed for future nighttime or early morning forays into the bathroom. Obviously, her balance is off and she simply does not have the strength to get herself up when she falls. Maybe I need to insist she get one of those first alert things to wear since I cannot get her to keep her cell phone near her side or better still on her. She's had that cell for 3 or 4 years and not used it once yet.
sorry to read about your wife Jay.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 02, 2013, 04:52:13 AM
So, are you saying that you were this sore from training or is there another reason? It is good to be a little sore after training, because it lets you know what you did affected those muscles. If you are so sore that you need pain medication, I would suggest you dial it back a notch. This seems counter productive. Not that I haven't been there. I remember working my legs so hard that I wasn't sure I could walk the next day. Like I said, this much torture is counter productive.
no been hurt 3wks ...scapula/delt/arm pain,tightness,stiffness,some tingles...trying to work around it..probably need md visit .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 02, 2013, 07:03:37 AM
no been hurt 3wks ...scapula/delt/arm pain,tightness,stiffness,some tingles...trying to work around it..probably need md visit .
yes i would get it looked at after 3 weeks
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 02, 2013, 07:10:58 AM
so i worked Back today:
warm up with abs: Crunches+leg raises 10 Min's skipping

sternum chins 3 x max
Barbell rows 3x10 Superset with
Dumbbell pull overs 3x15

T-Bar Rows 3x10 superset with
Barbell pullovers 3x15
 DB shrugs 3x15

later a 45 min run.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 02, 2013, 07:14:47 AM
now before i go for a run i have to get my car from the Garage. The spray job they did after the small accident my wife had, had some flaws so itīs getting sorted...i hope.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 02, 2013, 02:12:27 PM
i worked back last eve:


db rows  3 sets
lat pulldowns  3 sets
stiff arm pulldowns  3 sets
chest supported t bar rows 3 sets


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 02, 2013, 02:13:26 PM
no been hurt 3wks ...scapula/delt/arm pain,tightness,stiffness,some tingles...trying to work around it..probably need md visit .

My advice is for you to see your doctor asap. There is a reason for pain, it is a warning signal that something is wrong. It is best to heed the warning. I remembered that you suffered and injury. However, I assumed you were healed enough to workout without the aid of pain meds. Since this is not the case, you obviously still have something wrong. I could be something like carpal tunnel or a pinched nerve in your neck or shoulder which can cause tingling and discomfort. Ignoring this condition is not a good idea. I know people who have lost or suffered a permanent reduction of the use of their shoulders, arms and hands. This is not something to mess with.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 03, 2013, 12:33:05 AM
i worked back last eve:


db rows  3 sets
lat pulldowns  3 sets
stiff arm pulldowns  3 sets
chest supported t bar rows 3 sets



I like it !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 03, 2013, 06:59:07 AM
shoulders and abs:
warm up:  burpees 2x30
                crunches 2x50
                Db swings 2x30

Barbell shoulder press 5x10
side laterals 5x12
bent over laterals 5x12
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on April 03, 2013, 08:40:18 AM
NjFlex

Might suggest that your have a pinched (inflamed) nerve round the neck/trap area. Any tingle could involve the nerve paths of the muscles. This is not all that uncommon. Too the extreme, perhaps a slight rupture/tear...hopefully not.

Would also suggest a professional deep tissue or sports massage to help the problem. Could also explore acupuncture, with a second choice acupressure if needles are a problem. Another option would be heat/cold pack alternates. Applying a lotion, cream, patch,etc before and after working out, may offer relief. Try keeping the area warm when working out; long sleeves, sweats, etc.

Good Luck





Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 03, 2013, 09:28:25 AM
NjFlex

Might suggest that your have a pinched (inflamed) nerve round the neck/trap area. Any tingle could involve the nerve paths of the muscles. This is not all that uncommon. Too the extreme, perhaps a slight rupture/tear...hopefully not.

Would also suggest a professional deep tissue or sports massage to help the problem. Could also explore acupuncture, with a second choice acupressure if needles are a problem. Another option would be heat/cold pack alternates. Applying a lotion, cream, patch,etc before and after working out, may offer relief. Try keeping the area warm when working out; long sleeves, sweats, etc.

Good Luck






I WILL NOT DISCOUNT YOUR ADVICE SIR ,,,I KNOW PEOPLE HERE OR OTHER BOARDS GET A BIT DISTURBED BY UR POSTINGS,,,JAY HERE AND DONNY AS WELL HAVE OFFERED ADVICE,,I AM FEELING BETTER BUT STILL NOT WHERE I SHOULD/COULD BE,,I HAVE BEEN USING HOT/COLD,AND USING THIS ICY HOT ALTERNATIVE 'BIO FREEZE'A MORE CONCENTRATED VERSION OF A CREAM /GEL ,INTERNET ORDERED PRODUCT,I DO LIKE THE WAY IT FEELS VERY COLD,MY TRAING LOAD HAS DECREASED CONCENTRATING ON WARMING MUSCLE AND MAINTAINING WHAT I CAN.THANK YOU,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on April 03, 2013, 10:02:56 AM
NjFlex

I'm sure Jay and Donny are honorable men. And as this is a opinion board, each is allowed to express their own. Feel free to abandon, or accept, any suggestions offered. That is how we can learn different approaches to training problems. Either from myself or anyone one else. You are the the master of your success, or failure, when it comes to training, injuries or any thing else. You judgement, or any bias, is the final path to training and progressive gains. Good Luck

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 03, 2013, 10:04:02 AM
Well Steve we all hope you get better.. so i am going for a 1 hour fast walk now.. i am falling asleep on my couch. move my ass outside !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 03, 2013, 10:38:57 AM
Well Steve we all hope you get better.. so i am going for a 1 hour fast walk now.. i am falling asleep on my couch. move my ass outside !

I'M DOING FINE NO ADVILS OR PAIN MEDS ..ITS A BIT ACHY AT TIMES GOES AWAY..I CAN STRETCH,RAISE ARMS,MOVE HEAD NECK LITTLE TO PAIN..JUST CAN'T FULLY PRESS OR MOVE HEAVIER WEIGHTS ,,,I WILL DO ANOTHER RECOMMNEDATION BY ONE OF MY CUSTOMERS.HE TAUGHT ME TRICK WITH A BALL.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 03, 2013, 06:51:46 PM
guys thanx for staying with me here with my little set back really,,,took some advice and gave myself a massage a trainer'e trick lying down and rolling on a ball'tennis ball is preferred cause it has give'i used a harder ball i will switch ,i was able to loosen up a bit and used the 'cool gel'did back which is ok...
low rows wide bar cable
tbar row stand up version
hammer single arm reverse pulldown
stand up pulldown to waist
one arm dumbell row did 60's lol,,,,total 15 /16 sets

non weighted hypers

bis
curl bar premade 60/70 lber x3
db curl 30/35's
scott curl machine x3
seated cable curl x2

abs...all in all good workout felt stronger than week before little stiffness but feel ok..

took pic not pumped feel like chest my best bodypart is a bit flatter than usual but condition is very good....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 04, 2013, 06:21:28 AM
Tennis ball is a great idea steve.. you look great donīt worry ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 04, 2013, 06:35:42 AM
so i worked legs today:
warmed up with jumping rope and 3x 50 full sit ups.

Superset:
leg extensions 4x15
Barbell Squats 4x10

Lying leg curls 4x15
Bend to opposite foot with DB left then right 4x10 per leg

Standing one legged DB calf raise 5x15

I went for a walk and did some sprints up an incline and jogged down again. I did this 10 times. felt great and really got my old pumper working. My legs were too tired for a long run so sprints on an incline were good with a 30 min walk too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 05, 2013, 07:37:29 AM
Arms were trained per position of flexation approach:

Triceps Tri sets;
Midrange: Lying ez bar extensions 3x10
Stretch:   standing one arm DB extensions 3x10
Contracted: DB kickbacks 3x15

Biceps Tri sets:
Midrange:ez Bar standing curls 3x10
Stretch: Incline DB curls 3x10
Contracted: DB concentration curls(arm not supported)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 05, 2013, 10:39:08 AM
delts
laterals light 15,20,25,25 reps 12/15
behind neck press no pain ok,,
front raise underhad curl bar x3
upright to mid chest hits side delts a bit than full range x3
2 sets 20 lb db press this is where i am healing/limited,,l/s went up but tires and weaker as u can see 20's lol,,,,,i use 60/70's in great healed shape''

forearms/calves

did some light pec deck to stretch chest and get some blood pump there /then turned around and do pushups slow holding the seat squeezing at top/like a mid air pushup lol,,,front delt on that side is where its restricted on rom...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 05, 2013, 10:47:53 AM
delts
laterals light 15,20,25,25 reps 12/15
behind neck press no pain ok,,
front raise underhad curl bar x3
upright to mid chest hits side delts a bit than full range x3
2 sets 20 lb db press this is where i am healing/limited,,l/s went up but tires and weaker as u can see 20's lol,,,,,i use 60/70's in great healed shape''

forearms/calves

did some light pec deck to stretch chest and get some blood pump there /then turned around and do pushups slow holding the seat squeezing at top/like a mid air pushup lol,,,front delt on that side is where its restricted on rom...
sounds great on the pec deck .. how did you do the push ups ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 05, 2013, 10:55:34 AM
sounds great on the pec deck .. how did you do the push ups ?
i used pec deck seat went down a bit not to cushion fully i am nursing this ya know,just a stretch and then back was on angle so legs behind me,,i did 3 full normal pushups before gym to test it ,2 more than i could do few days ago,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 05, 2013, 11:06:35 AM
i used pec deck seat went down a bit not to cushion fully i am nursing this ya know,just a stretch and then back was on angle so legs behind me,,i did 3 full normal pushups before gym to test it ,2 more than i could do few days ago,,,,
got you steve ..sorry i did not understand what you meant. sorry.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 05, 2013, 11:08:30 AM
got you steve ..sorry i did not understand what you meant. sorry.
u always use those old school pics that show the exercises lol,,,its hard for me to explain some of the movements i do from the usual,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 05, 2013, 11:23:37 AM
u always use those old school pics that show the exercises lol,,,its hard for me to explain some of the movements i do from the usual,,
i find it great that you find exercises to work around it and it shows your training experience. It will benifit me if i ever get the injury.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2013, 01:28:11 PM
When I was in my thirties, I worked out in the basement of our home. I really liked doing pushups using three chairs. I'd put my feet one chair and one hand on each of the other chairs. What I liked about doing pushups like this was the extension at the bottom of the movement. I could really stretch my chest.

Unfortunately one time while doing this style push up, I over extended my left hand and managed to do some damage to it. It hurt like hell. I drove to emergency and they gave me some pain meds to get me through to the next day when I could see my regular doctor. When I woke up the following morning, my left hand was so swollen that it looked something like a cow's udder. When I saw the doctor, he determined that it was inflamed. He gave me an injection directly into my hand. The swelling eventually went down and then my hand looked skeletal. Apparently it had been so hot that it melted the what little fat one has on their fingers. After a week or so it looked normal.

I am not sure I ever tried these pushups again using three chairs. I have done them at the gym using two triangular shaped bars which elevated my hands thus allowing for extra stretch at the bottom of the exercise. With this equipment, my hands were parallel, palms facing each other and griping the bars so there was little chance of over extending them at the wrist.

There is nothing like hitting 20-25 pushups to pump up the pecs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 05, 2013, 02:20:17 PM
When I was in my thirties, I worked out in the basement of our home. I really liked doing pushups using three chairs. I'd put my feet one chair and one hand on each of the other chairs. What I liked about doing pushups like this was the extension at the bottom of the movement. I could really stretch my chest.

Unfortunately one time while doing this style push up, I over extended my left hand and managed to do some damage to it. It hurt like hell. I drove to emergency and they gave me some pain meds to get me through to the next day when I could see my regular doctor. When I woke up the following morning, my left hand was so swollen that it looked something like a cow's udder. When I saw the doctor, he determined that it was inflamed. He gave me an injection directly into my hand. The swelling eventually went down and then my hand looked skeletal. Apparently it had been so hot that it melted the what little fat one has on their fingers. After a week or so it looked normal.

I am not sure I ever tried these pushups again using three chairs. I have done them at the gym using two triangular shaped bars which elevated my hands thus allowing for extra stretch at the bottom of the exercise. With this equipment, my hands were parallel, palms facing each other and griping the bars so there was little chance of over extending them at the wrist.

There is nothing like hitting 20-25 pushups to pump up the pecs.
GREAT POST.. i have 2 push up bars i bought but i use 2 thick books but i find the traditional palms down works for me. itīs true though prime.. a parallel grip does help in pushing movements.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 06, 2013, 04:24:32 AM
i think today i will have a lazy Day at Home and relax..was quite a busy week. watch a good film but what ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2013, 12:22:08 PM
quads full steam
leg press warmed up 1 and 3 plates for 15 each then,,,5 plates 12/6 plates 10/7 plates 10/8 plates 8
hacks x3 3 plates /4 plates /5 plates 10 or more per set..
walking luges db 50's x2
leg extensions x3 2 set drop 8-10 per set 220 drop to 190

hams lying and seated leg curls x3 and x2...
calves leg press extensions
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 06, 2013, 09:29:54 PM
Hit the gym on Friday for a full body workout plus cardio. Had a daylong meeting today, so no gym time. I am loving using the elliptical for cardio because it makes my sciatica almost go away. Unfortunately, driving from my home in West Linn, OR to Salem, OR which is a fifty mile trip each way, aggravates the sciatic nerve. It is best when I can stay off my butt, which is difficult when one is driving.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 07, 2013, 08:45:16 AM
Hit the gym on Friday for a full body workout plus cardio. Had a daylong meeting today, so no gym time. I am loving using the elliptical for cardio because it makes my sciatica almost go away. Unfortunately, driving from my home in West Linn, OR to Salem, OR which is a fifty mile trip each way, aggravates the sciatic nerve. It is best when I can stay off my butt, which is difficult when one is driving.
sounds like you are getting back in there Jay.. yes 50 miles each way is a fair distance and would put some of training. Where i live there are Gym all over the place and i mean itīs not  a big place here. Today i went for a cycle trip and just took it real easy.. itīs really nice weather today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 07, 2013, 01:02:34 PM
sounds like you are getting back in there Jay.. yes 50 miles each way is a fair distance and would put some of training. Where i live there are Gym all over the place and i mean itīs not  a big place here. Today i went for a cycle trip and just took it real easy.. itīs really nice weather today.

I realize now that I did not state myself clearly when I said I drove 50 miles back a forth to Salem, yesterday. This drive was not to the gym, it was for a business meeting. Salem is Oregon's Capitol city. Some of my volunteer work is political in nature. Also the association I belong to is headquartered in Salem. The gym I belong to is about 4 miles from my home. Driving to the gym takes 10 minutes tops. If I would ride my bicycle there, I'd develop monster legs because it is all hills. I live on a hill and the gym is on another hill. That bike ride is not on my agenda just yet.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 08, 2013, 05:20:36 AM
Trained Chest Today:

Flat BB Bench press 3x6-8
Flat Flyes 3x12
Incline DB press 3x10
Incline Flyes 3x12

straight after i went for a 45 minute run in the woods
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 08, 2013, 05:24:26 AM
also saw on the news Baroness Thatcher has Died...some older Brits will know who she was. The first and only Woman Prime Minister in the UK and served 3 Terms i believe. She pumped a lot of Money into the Armed Forces but was against Trade Unions and i remember as a kid there was a lot of Riots. She will not be missed by the working man in the UK...or the Labour Party.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 08, 2013, 12:58:59 PM
also saw on the news Baroness Thatcher has Died...some older Brits will know who she was. The first and only Woman Prime Minister in the UK and served 3 Terms i believe. She pumped a lot of Money into the Armed Forces but was against Trade Unions and i remember as a kid there was a lot of Riots. She will not be missed by the working man in the UK...or the Labour Party.

Quote
Thatcher, even in death, divides world opinion

Combative and determined to get her way, Margaret Thatcher divided opinion down the middle in life — and in death.

Many leaders lauded Thatcher for her steely determination to modernize Britain's industrial landscape, even at the cost of strikes and riots, and to stand beside the United States as the west triumphed in the Cold War versus the Soviet Union. Others saw a pitiless tyrant who preferred conflict to compromise.
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20130408/Thatcher-Reaction/


She was a very powerful lady. Being working class myself, I cannot say I appreciated her views regarding labor unions. Fortunately, her political clout was in Britain and not in the U.S. We have plenty of our own politicos with her viewpoint, they are called Republicans.

Who knows, if Republicans get their way, we may be referring to some folks as Barons and Baronesses'.  How does Baron Romney sound, or how about Baroness Palin? -Stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 09, 2013, 08:08:20 AM
Worked Back today..
Warm up was 2x Tabata jumping rope.
Abs: 3x 50 sit ups

Sternum Chins 4xmax
Dumbbell Rows 4x10 superset with
Dumbbell pullovers 4x15
Deadlifts 5x8

No cardio today apart from jumping rope.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 09, 2013, 08:17:45 AM
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20130408/Thatcher-Reaction/


She was a very powerful lady. Being working class myself, I cannot say I appreciated her views regarding labor unions. Fortunately, her political clout was in Britain and not in the U.S. We have plenty of our own politicos with her viewpoint, they are called Republicans.

Who knows, if Republicans get their way, we may be referring to some folks as Barons and Baronesses'.  How does Baron Romney sound, or how about Baroness Palin? -Stranger things have happened.
I'm scared to death that the USA is going to turn into Sweden because of Prez Nobama and his socialistic agenda!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 09, 2013, 08:20:13 AM
delts and bis tonight:


machine shoulder presses  3 sets

cable side laterals  3 sets

reverse cable flyes  3 sets


alternate db curls  4 sets

concentration curls  4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 09, 2013, 09:07:41 AM
CHEST
GETTING THERE SLOWLY ON CHEST  :P,,,MASSAGE,ICE,ICE GEL,USE COMPRESSION BALLS SMALL ONE PRESSED ON SHOULDER AND BACK.

HAMMER LOWER PRESS WAS DOING 45'S PER SIDE ONLY FOR FEW WKS GOT UP TO 45 AND 25 PER SIDE FOR 7/8 ALMOST FULL RANGE STILL SHOULDER PUSHES BACK.A BIT
DB FLAT PRESS GOT UP TO 30'S THEY WERE PINNED TO MY CHEST 3 WKS AGO,,,90'S SEEM SO FAR AWAY.....
CABLE CROSSOVER S TOP AND LOWER
SEATED PRESS WITH STACK GOT UP TO 105 USUALLY 145/160 I DO :-X

TRIS
PUSHDOWNS
DIP MACHINE
KICK BACKS WEAK HERE DUE TO SHOULDER BEING BENT DOWN WENT VERY LIGHT,,
OVERHEAD EXTENSION MACHINE

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 09, 2013, 10:40:29 PM
Didn't post it when I got home yesterday, but had a great 90 minute workout including cardio yesterday. I think my stomach is actually beginning to look a little flatter. Maybe in a month or two my abs will be visible again....one can hope.

I got so excited about the minor improvements, I decided to groom. I took the hair off my back and trimmed the hair on my shoulders, arms and all down the front of me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 10, 2013, 12:19:21 AM
Didn't post it when I got home yesterday, but had a great 90 minute workout including cardio yesterday. I think my stomach is actually beginning to look a little flatter. Maybe in a month or two my abs will be visible again....one can hope.

I got so excited about the minor improvements, I decided to groom. I took the hair off my back and trimmed the hair on my shoulders, arms and all down the front of me.
keep up the cardio too Jay. I think to really get in shape you need weights and Cardio. Flexibility too but you stretch as well. Itīs like a stool with 3 legs, lose one and it will topple. I have to admit i need to stretch more in my shoulder area.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 10, 2013, 05:44:59 AM
Didn't post it when I got home yesterday, but had a great 90 minute workout including cardio yesterday. I think my stomach is actually beginning to look a little flatter. Maybe in a month or two my abs will be visible again....one can hope.

I got so excited about the minor improvements, I decided to groom. I took the hair off my back and trimmed the hair on my shoulders, arms and all down the front of me.
good jay ....then pics to show effort..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 10, 2013, 07:57:40 AM
Trained legs today:
warm up and Abs: crunches +leg raises 3xmax

Superset:
Leg Extensions 3x10-15
Front Squats 3x10

Superset:
Leg curls 3x10-15
DB Lunges 3x10

standing DB calf raises 5x15+
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 11, 2013, 04:35:46 AM
Shoulders trained today with a Giant set:
Body warmed up with rope jumping,Full sit ups,Boxing Bag.

Side laterals 4x12
Barbell press4x12
Bent over laterals 4x12
DB shrugs 4x15

My Cardio was Today cycling around with my mountain Bike.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 11, 2013, 03:44:38 PM
Made to the gym yesterday. I did my usual work out and even added a couple of extra moves to it.

Nothing to do with working out, but I woke up yesterday morning with my back out. I have no idea how it happened. However, I decided not to let that stand in the way of a good workout. I actually felt a lot better after the workout. Last night, I used the "tens" for an hour on my lower back. When I woke up this morning my back felt a lot better.

I took some measurements last night and threw up (not really). It is disgusting how out of shape I am after my apparently too long hiatus from the gym. My arms (15.5" cold) and thighs (24.5") are comparatively thin while my waist (38") and hips (40") have grown some. not wanting to know anymore, I stopped measuring. What I don't get is that my clothes still fit and are not tight. I wear pants and jeans that are 36" with a little room to spare at the waist. This just goes to prove you cannot go by pants size when measuring your waist. My weight this morning was 204 lbs. @ 5'10 1/2". Like I said, I am really out of shape.

This morning I decided I have to lose some weight. I had a very small glass of orange juice and about a half hour later a protein drink from the market. About 3 hours after that I had another protein drink. They are only 100 calories with 17 grams of protein. Did a Costco run and bought 36 premixed protein drinks that are 170 calories and 30 grams of protein. These are going to be my breakfast, lunch and late night snack for awhile until I get my waist under control.



 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 11, 2013, 04:26:07 PM
Made to the gym yesterday. I did my usual work out and even added a couple of extra moves to it.

Nothing to do with working out, but I woke up yesterday morning with my back out. I have no idea how it happened. However, I decided not to let that stand in the way of a good workout. I actually felt a lot better after the workout. Last night, I used the "tens" for an hour on my lower back. When I woke up this morning my back felt a lot better.

I took some measurements last night and threw up (not really). It is disgusting how out of shape I am after my apparently too long hiatus from the gym. My arms (15.5" cold) and thighs (24.5") are comparatively thin while my waist (38") and hips (40") have grown some. not wanting to know anymore, I stopped measuring. What I don't get is that my clothes still fit and are not tight. I wear pants and jeans that are 36" with a little room to spare at the waist. This just goes to prove you cannot go by pants size when measuring your waist. My weight this morning was 204 lbs. @ 5'10 1/2". Like I said, I am really out of shape.

This morning I decided I have to lose some weight. I had a very small glass of orange juice and about a half hour later a protein drink from the market. About 3 hours after that I had another protein drink. They are only 100 calories with 17 grams of protein. Did a Costco run and bought 36 premixed protein drinks that are 170 calories and 30 grams of protein. These are going to be my breakfast, lunch and late night snack for awhile until I get my waist under control.



 
Jay you know what i never drink protein shakes and to be honest a lot of drinks are high in suger and calories. I drink coffee with no suger, milk i drink and lots of water.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 11, 2013, 06:17:16 PM
I love Frank Sinatra 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 11, 2013, 07:48:18 PM
wed back,,
reverse hammer puldowns heaviest set got to 45/25 plus 10 per side usually at 2 plates and change sometime's 2 plates/25 per side felt a good pump and this wk so far felt my bodyparts getting pumped more full instead of in shrink mode
2 ..low cable pulley supersetted with upper rope pulldown to waist like a standing close version u would do if seated and bar overhead this version your standing and stretching..
3...tbar row chest supported to pad
4...single arm db row,,60/70 lber's getting there lol,,,usually 90/100's or so...

non weighted hyperextensions x3 15 rep sets just bodyweight

abs
bi's
db curls 30/30/35 reps higher 12 per arm
straight bar curl closer grip
seated scott curl machine slow reps and flex at top
hammer curl

overall good workout and next day felt good minor soreness in affected areas ,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 11, 2013, 07:58:24 PM
delt day
ist time pressing front press in few wks smith press to front supersetted with side laterals
on heaviest sets of 10 got to 35 lb plate per side with 25 lb laterals x10 weight not concern right now..
2..superset upright row curl bar used with 45 lb plate per hand side shrugs x3
3...under handed cable front raise with bent over rear cable single arm at a time  x3....
shrugs to front 3 sets 15 i use hammer lay down chest machine for these stand between bench and grab handles ,,shrugs work better than what machine is intended for lol,,

calves standing calf raise 3 toe positions x3 8 reps per position..
forearms...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 11, 2013, 08:01:56 PM
I love Frank Sinatra  

my favorite frankie song is "summer wind".
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 11, 2013, 09:55:12 PM
Jay you know what i never drink protein shakes and to be honest a lot of drinks are high in suger and calories. I drink coffee with no suger, milk i drink and lots of water.

My problem is that I like to eat well. I don't consume and sugar substitutes. I don't ever use margarine, always butter. If I add anything to my coffee, it will be either heavy cream or at least half and half. Another issue I have is controlling the quantity of what I eat. While I rarely get hungry, I also rarely feel full. The result is that I tend to eat too much.

What protein drinks provide me is meal replacement. The drinks I bought at Costco today, which have 30 grams of protein derived from Whey and soy, only have 170 calories. There is no breakfast or lunch I could eat with so few calories. I am not drinking protein drinks in addition to meals.

Dinner is more difficult for me to gain control over. Both my wife and I love to cook. She made dinner tonight. She fixed boneless and skinless chicken breasts with a Lingonberry sauce, snap peas in butter, Stovetop stuffing, pear halves with cream cheese balls in the pit area and French dressing to top. All yummy stuff. I ate all of my chicken breast, a large helping of snap peas, a small helping of the stuffing and two pear halves with the cream cheese, but not the French dressing. I had one glass of red wine with dinner.

This is what my wife decided to fix after I told her I was going to cut back my food intake to help me lose some excess fat. For desert I am drinking a cup of green tea with nothing in it. I will have one more protein drink late tonight. Normally, I drink a Grande Chai Latte from Starbucks sometime during the day. I am going to switch to café Americano, which is basically espresso with nothing but water in it.

Because my back is still a little out of whack, I am moving slower than usual today. My guess is I didn't burn many calories.

Like you, I am a big water drinker. I don't bother with the bottled stuff. Our refrigerator provides filtered water, which is chilled. I avoid ice because I tend to chew it. As a result, I managed to crack both my lower wisdom teeth, which now sport gold crowns. I don't mind having gold teeth were no one can see them. I'd hate to crack a front tooth and end up with a gold crown with a diamond in the middle....it just isn't me! LOL.
 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 11, 2013, 10:01:22 PM
keep up the cardio too Jay. I think to really get in shape you need weights and Cardio. Flexibility too but you stretch as well. Itīs like a stool with 3 legs, lose one and it will topple. I have to admit i need to stretch more in my shoulder area.

I like your three legged stool analogy. Stretching is new to me. I never bothered with it until now. It really seems to make a difference too. Now I realize I should have started stretching regularly many years ago. I am so inflexible, it is not good. I am trying to take things slowly, so I won't burn out. I thought I might add more cardio on my days off from the gym soon. I am still doing stretching and core building exercises a couple of days a week which are specifically designed to develop the core and help with the sciatica and degenerative disk disease I have.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 11, 2013, 10:07:19 PM
my favorite frankie song is "summer wind".

I have a couple of Frank Sinatra CD's which I really enjoy listening to. My dad wanted to be a singer, he was about the same age as Frank Sinatra. He often copied his mellow style. When I listen to Frank Sinatra sing, it always makes me think of good times with my dad. I have too many favorites to mention.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 12, 2013, 07:35:49 AM
Some Great workouts going on Men.. ;D I wanted to work my arms today but i just have too much on. I got a couple of job offers today too. The new Gym that opened here asked if i wanted to work part time there as a personal trainer and i got a phone call from another to work full time. Maybe itīs because summer is coming. I work full time at the moment but i might look into doing a few hours work in the new Gym that opened. Itīs a small Gym but the 2 bosses seem good Guys. so really itīs been a great Day so far ;D..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 12, 2013, 08:14:47 AM
Some Great workouts going on Men.. ;D I wanted to work my arms today but i just have too much on. I got a couple of job offers today too. The new Gym that opened here asked if i wanted to work part time there as a personal trainer and i got a phone call from another to work full time. Maybe itīs because summer is coming. I work full time at the moment but i might look into doing a few hours work in the new Gym that opened. Itīs a small Gym but the 2 bosses seem good Guys. so really itīs been a great Day so far ;D..
COOL DONNY...WE ADDED WILLIE SORTA LOST AVBG/BOOTY IS AROUND  ;)...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 12, 2013, 11:11:59 AM
COOL DONNY...WE ADDED WILLIE SORTA LOST AVBG/BOOTY IS AROUND  ;)...
well i am sure they will come back again...good to see you and Jay getting back into training again.. :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 12, 2013, 11:46:33 AM
COOL DONNY...WE ADDED WILLIE SORTA LOST AVBG/BOOTY IS AROUND  ;)...
STEVE.....IT IS GREAT TO BE AROUND YOU AND DONNY.....HELL.....WE OUGHT TO GET TOGETHER IN PERSON.....TRAIN......TH EN HEAD OUT FOR A GREAT ITALIAN FEAST......WINE.....CIGA RS.....THE WHOLE NINE YARDS!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 12, 2013, 12:35:42 PM
Great idea George..... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 12, 2013, 12:45:24 PM
WILLIE IS WAY ON THE LIST FOR YRS NOW,,GOOD GUY,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 13, 2013, 05:12:53 AM
WILLIE IS WAY ON THE LIST FOR YRS NOW,,GOOD GUY,,,
yes George is one of the best guys on here. so today i will go for a run with a friend. Tomorrow is my rest day... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 13, 2013, 09:59:48 AM
donny holding size ,,,condition a bit better since injury and focused less on weight and keeping focus form and feeling weight again,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 13, 2013, 10:20:41 AM
Steve your Muscles are still solid looking ...no worries my friend...me I'm f@ck ed ...was running with a friend who is a great runner... ;D...shower and mellow out ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 13, 2013, 10:40:50 AM
Steve your Muscles are still solid looking ...no worries my friend...me I'm f@ck ed ...was running with a friend who is a great runner... ;D...shower and mellow out ...
went for mile walk today to baseball field with the town 'kids'baseball league parade ,,,doing legs soon,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 13, 2013, 10:57:47 AM
Blast them quads .... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 13, 2013, 09:58:57 PM
db rows  3 sets
lat pulldowns  3 sets
chest supported t bar rows  3 sets
one arm cable rows  4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 13, 2013, 11:07:13 PM

Did not make it to the gym today or yesterday. I suspect the testosterone injections aren't getting me through the full two weeks between shots. I am due for one on Monday. Right now, I have almost no energy at all. I slept for 12 hours last night. I need to get this sorted out.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 13, 2013, 11:54:43 PM
COOL DONNY...WE ADDED WILLIE SORTA LOST AVBG/BOOTY IS AROUND  ;)...
I am still here yes. Got some catching up to do though with what's been happening with everyone. Need to get laptop sorted ASAP. I will probably just wait until my friend takes hers in to be fixed and see if it comes back without any new issues. I think I told you all that the last time she got her laptop looked at it came back with a new problem which is what has happened to me. So that's why I am going to see how hers comes back and if its a good place then I will put mine in to get sorted. I trained abs after back today so I am definitely on the recovery. Didn't swell during or after training. Some swelling is with me all the time, the main difference is that it's not increasing when I train. I am getting leaner through the waist. Only really noticed it this week due to my clothes getting looser through the waist. Surprisenly I haven't even really been doing as much cardio. Just had a busier social life  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 14, 2013, 12:39:20 AM
I am still here yes. Got some catching up to do though with what's been happening with everyone. Need to get laptop sorted ASAP. I will probably just wait until my friend takes hers in to be fixed and see if it comes back without any new issues. I think I told you all that the last time she got her laptop looked at it came back with a new problem which is what has happened to me. So that's why I am going to see how hers comes back and if its a good place then I will put mine in to get sorted. I trained abs after back today so I am definitely on the recovery. Didn't swell during or after training. Some swelling is with me all the time, the main difference is that it's not increasing when I train. I am getting leaner through the waist. Only really noticed it this week due to my clothes getting looser through the waist. Surprisenly I haven't even really been doing as much cardio. Just had a busier social life  ;D

You are so much more patient than I am. By now I would have replaced the laptop with a new one.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 14, 2013, 12:43:06 AM
You are so much more patient than I am. By now I would have replaced the laptop with a new one.
me too  ;) but i would still chase it up if under Guarantee.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 14, 2013, 12:47:09 AM
You are so much more patient than I am. By now I would have replaced the laptop with a new one.
I must be patient then. I just assumed everyone was patient.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 14, 2013, 12:48:51 AM
me too  ;) but i would still chase it up if under Guarantee.
The last time I sent it off under warranty it came back with no Internet explorer so I am not sending it back to those idiots.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 14, 2013, 12:58:23 AM
The last time I sent it off under warranty it came back with no Internet explorer so I am not sending it back to those idiots.
know what you mean.. after the small car crash my wife had i took my car to the to Garage to be repaired and they tried to get away with an unsatisfactory job on my car. My wife picked up the car and a guy in charge there tried to BS my wife saying it was all ok. I phoned him and he was a real cheeky guy to be honest so i went into his office and put him in the picture ;) Donīt really like getting upset but my Insurance paid in full and he upset me. Nearly pulled him over his desk...lol ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 14, 2013, 02:18:39 AM
so i think i will go for a leisurely strole and get some fresh air..come back eat dinner and be lazy on the couch and watch a film. Wife and sons are at a christening but i am not really a church Guy so i stayed at home.. nothing against it just bores me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 14, 2013, 04:40:33 AM
know what you mean.. after the small car crash my wife had i took my car to the to Garage to be repaired and they tried to get away with an unsatisfactory job on my car. My wife picked up the car and a guy in charge there tried to BS my wife saying it was all ok. I phoned him and he was a real cheeky guy to be honest so i went into his office and put him in the picture ;) Donīt really like getting upset but my Insurance paid in full and he upset me. Nearly pulled him over his desk...lol ;D
That sounds like a natural reaction Donny.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 14, 2013, 05:51:30 AM
That sounds like a natural reaction Donny.  ;D
it's the animal in me Karen.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: nzmusclemonster on April 14, 2013, 05:52:55 AM
how mature does a guy have to be to post up in here
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 14, 2013, 06:45:30 AM
how mature does a guy have to be to post up in here
well post and We'll let you know if you're mature... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 14, 2013, 01:50:26 PM
how mature does a guy have to be to post up in here

Are you speaking of mental and emotional maturity or age? If you read through the posts here, you will see that mental and emotional maturity are key. Other than that, I would think anyone who has passed the point where they could pretty much do whatever they chose to do working out with no repercussions. More mature people have more seasoned workout routines and often a lot more practice.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 14, 2013, 09:07:02 PM
it's the animal in me Karen.. ;D
Reminds me of animal from the muppets.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 14, 2013, 09:08:08 PM
how mature does a guy have to be to post up in here
You will tell us we all look like shit and hope that helps.  ( joke).  :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 14, 2013, 10:17:45 PM
I hope everyone had a fine weekend!

Tonight's workout:

leg extensions   5 sets

squats      4 sets

stiff leg deadlifts  3 sets

seated calf raises  4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 14, 2013, 11:46:47 PM
I hope everyone had a fine weekend!

Tonight's workout:

leg extensions   5 sets

squats      4 sets

stiff leg deadlifts  3 sets

seated calf raises  4 sets
nice one George.. i like to throw in some leg curls.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 15, 2013, 12:05:19 AM
Are you speaking of mental and emotional maturity or age? If you read through the posts here, you will see that mental and emotional maturity are key. Other than that, I would think anyone who has passed the point where they could pretty much do whatever they chose to do working out with no repercussions. More mature people have more seasoned workout routines and often a lot more practice.
Prime I wasn't very impressed with your take on gen y in that thread. I am actually a very secure person. What you see with me is what you get. Anyone that knows me in real life or at least on a personal level knows that I have a very strong personality and am very confidant.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 15, 2013, 12:06:29 AM
nice one George.. i like to throw in some leg curls.
Willie's name is George??
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: nzmusclemonster on April 15, 2013, 12:39:59 AM
Are you speaking of mental and emotional maturity or age? If you read through the posts here, you will see that mental and emotional maturity are key. Other than that, I would think anyone who has passed the point where they could pretty much do whatever they chose to do working out with no repercussions. More mature people have more seasoned workout routines and often a lot more practice.

I workout at the gym once or twice a week. I'm more of a runner these days. On the weekend in did a 9 mile run.
My days of going balls to the wall deadlifting or squatting are long gone.
I get much more satisfaction running up a huge hill and getting a great view of the city.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 15, 2013, 12:57:23 AM
Welcome to the mature thread Jamie.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 15, 2013, 01:00:40 AM
Prime I wasn't very impressed with your take on gen y in that thread. I am actually a very secure person. What you see with me is what you get. Anyone that knows me in real life or at least on a personal level knows that I have a very strong personality and am very confidant.

OK, but were you born after the early 80's? Unless you are 33 years old or younger, you are not Gen Y. You are probably Gen X like my children.

As for you being secure, I am happy to hear that you are. Unfortunately, many people who seek attention based primarily on their looks are often not very secure. The sad part is that eventually looks fade and then what do these folks have. Not to worry though, because you are looking fine.

My mom had a very strong personality and she came across as being very confident, yet there was a certain sadness about her. Maybe I was just feeling sad for her because she got a lot of male attention mainly because she was attractive. Eventually her looks faded for a variety of reasons. I believe she missed the attention she once got.

Like you, my mom always had a great head of blond hair, which was her crowning glory. Her figure was thin and athletic. She basically had no boobs. Thanks to foam rubber she managed to make it look as if she did.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 15, 2013, 01:07:14 AM
My workout ended up being a day of working in the yard today. Not as strict in terms of exercise as going to the gym, I know. I got a little burst of energy for some reason, which kind of blows my theory about the testosterone wearing off. I have a midday meeting which ends up taking about a 3 to 4 hour chunk out of my day, but I am planning on going to the gym when I get back from the Capitol.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 15, 2013, 01:15:07 AM
OK, but were you born after the early 80's? Unless you are 33 years old or younger, you are not Gen Y. You are probably Gen X like my children.

As for you being secure, I am happy to hear that you are. Unfortunately, many people who seek attention based primarily on their looks are often not very secure. The sad part is that eventually looks fade and then what do these folks have. Not to worry though, because you are looking fine.

My mom had a very strong personality and she came across as being very confident, yet there was a certain sadness about her. Maybe I was just feeling sad for her because she got a lot of male attention mainly because she was attractive. Eventually her looks faded for a variety of reasons. I believe she missed the attention she once got.

Like you, my mom always had a great head of blond hair, which was her crowning glory. Her figure was thin and athletic. She basically had no boobs. Thanks to foam rubber she managed to make it look as if she did.
foam rubber???  I am laughing right now Jay.  ;D. Look I know you mean well and that you have a big heart. I am not angry with you just slightly annoyed. But it's me I should be annoyed with as I should have known that grown men couldn't handle me posting a naked pic. I might be comfortable with it but nudity is a sore issue for some.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 15, 2013, 01:28:52 AM
foam rubber???  I am laughing right now Jay.  ;D. Look I know you mean well and that you have a big heart. I am not angry with you just slightly annoyed. But it's me I should be annoyed with as I should have known that grown men couldn't handle me posting a naked pic. I might be comfortable with it but nudity is a sore issue for some.

Personally, I think posting photos of yourself in the nude or otherwise is fine. However, you must realize that when you post them on Getbig you are making yourself a target for all those folks who like to criticize others. I don't truly understand why you would set yourself up for this kind of abuse.

Look at Bouncer. He posted photos of his abs and another that was a face picture. While a few folks complimented him on his ab development and slimness, many more were tripping over themselves to say unkind things about his photos. I think anytime anyone posts a photo of themselves here, including me, they are taking a big risk that all they will get is a bunch of negative and sometimes downright nasty comments from all the haters.

I won't be posting nudes of me anytime soon. Quite frankly, most people don't want to see and old fart without clothes on....it scares them.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 15, 2013, 01:31:06 AM
foam rubber???  I am laughing right now Jay.  ;D. Look I know you mean well and that you have a big heart. I am not angry with you just slightly annoyed. But it's me I should be annoyed with as I should have known that grown men couldn't handle me posting a naked pic. I might be comfortable with it but nudity is a sore issue for some.

One more comment...."grown men"? I doubt these naysayers are truly grown men, at least in terms of maturity.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 15, 2013, 01:41:39 AM
One more comment...."grown men"? I doubt these naysayers are truly grown men, at least in terms of maturity.
Yep point taken Jay.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 15, 2013, 09:02:33 AM
Willie's name is George??
yes... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 15, 2013, 09:07:10 AM
I workout at the gym once or twice a week. I'm more of a runner these days. On the weekend in did a 9 mile run.
My days of going balls to the wall deadlifting or squatting are long gone.
I get much more satisfaction running up a huge hill and getting a great view of the city.
wellcome.. nothing wrong with running ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 15, 2013, 09:13:00 AM
Chest today :
10 mins warm up on Ex Bike
Decline Barbell Press 4x8
Flat bench flyes 4x12
incline DB press 4x10
1x max push ups

did a workout in the Gym today and enjoyed the Decline presses.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 15, 2013, 07:20:24 PM
chest
fdb and inc dbell able to do 35/40's and arm is not bouncing or shaling like few wks ago,,,,amazing how chest laying down got so affected..
db flyes 25's lol,,,
crossovers
lower chest press
still cannot do dips and pushups are improving half range motion 6 reps/8

tris
triset extension machine/seated tri dip machine/rope pulldowns x3 10reps each

abs
pump is getting back in left side each workout,,,i still feel very deflated ,in mirror,,this one took a toll on me on a vanity standpoint,haven't been much into posting here at get big in general,,feel like a keyboard warrior who come's here for fun and has no build to speak of....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 15, 2013, 11:01:10 PM
chest
fdb and inc dbell able to do 35/40's and arm is not bouncing or shaling like few wks ago,,,,amazing how chest laying down got so affected..
db flyes 25's lol,,,
crossovers
lower chest press
still cannot do dips and pushups are improving half range motion 6 reps/8

tris
triset extension machine/seated tri dip machine/rope pulldowns x3 10reps each

abs
pump is getting back in left side each workout,,,i still feel very deflated ,in mirror,,this one took a toll on me on a vanity standpoint,haven't been much into posting here at get big in general,,feel like a keyboard warrior who come's here for fun and has no build to speak of....

After a much too long hiatus from the gym, I am easing back into it very slowly. I thought this made sense. I did not want to overdo it and end up in pain, or worse with injuries. My question is am I being a wuss? Should I be more aggressive about my reentry to bodybuilding and a regular exercise routine? Young men have a lifetime ahead of them to become the fit and muscular men they desire to become. Older men like me have an undetermined time to realize their goals. Should we push harder or should we accept our fate?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 16, 2013, 12:15:08 PM
Today i never had a chance to train. Itīs got warm over the last few days and we had so many new Gym members i have not stopped all day. Itīs crazy training people all day and not having time to train yourself  :(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 16, 2013, 12:21:36 PM
After a much too long hiatus from the gym, I am easing back into it very slowly. I thought this made sense. I did not want to overdo it and end up in pain, or worse with injuries. My question is am I being a wuss? Should I be more aggressive about my reentry to bodybuilding and a regular exercise routine? Young men have a lifetime ahead of them to become the fit and muscular men they desire to become. Older men like me have an undetermined time to realize their goals. Should we push harder or should we accept our fate?
accept your fate??? Jay you should always strive to better yourself. you are not so bad off as some people i have seen in the last few days. I have trained people with high blood pressure, back problem, knee problems and even a woman of 71 who was obese... man i can tell you stories. some of these people could hardly do a 10 minute warm up  on a bike..at the lowest intensity. I think youīre doing great Jay...keep pushing on big man.. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 17, 2013, 09:28:45 AM
today i got a back workout in:
Cross trainer 10 mins warm up

sternum pull ups 3xmax
seated pulley rows 3x10
Barbell rows 3x10
Hyperextensions 45 degree 3x20

Abs i trained on a machine but itīs not really my thing..just fancied a change.
Cardio was cross trainer interval programme 30 mins



Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 17, 2013, 11:23:26 AM
arms last eve:


kneeling rope extensions (vince gironda/larry scott style)   4 sets

close grip smith machine    3 sets

overhead cable extensions  3 sets


lying cable curls (to the forehead)  4 sets

precor bicep machine  4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 17, 2013, 11:33:37 AM
arms last eve:


kneeling rope extensions (vince gironda/larry scott style)   4 sets

close grip smith machine    3 sets

overhead cable extensions  3 sets


lying cable curls (to the forehead)  4 sets

precor bicep machine  4 sets
very intresting George. a lot of cable work. how was the kneeling Gironda Extensions? i have never performed them 100% like this.. or as Gironda showed them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 17, 2013, 11:55:47 AM
cable work = constant tension on the muscle


especially with cable side laterals for delt training
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 17, 2013, 12:00:59 PM
cable work = constant tension on the muscle


especially with cable side laterals for delt training
yes very nice ;D i like to use cables now and again like today cable pulley rows. Great post George.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 17, 2013, 12:01:52 PM
cable work = constant tension on the muscle


especially with cable side laterals for delt training

Do you think Nautilus equipment achieves the same results as cable exercises do if one does the exercise strictly and by that I mean slowly and not allowing the weight to rest at the bottom of the exercise?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 17, 2013, 02:52:35 PM
Do you think Nautilus equipment achieves the same results as cable exercises do if one does the exercise strictly and by that I mean slowly and not allowing the weight to rest at the bottom of the exercise?
well you should never let the weight rest at the bottom on ANY machine exercise and in my opinion cable exercises are a diffrent feel. If we are talking basic muscle building i would go with what prime wrote but to really feel the muscle i would use cables like George said..not even Jones can change the constant tension that a cable gives. Cables are unique.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 17, 2013, 07:55:32 PM
well you should never let the weight rest at the bottom on ANY machine exercise and in my opinion cable exercises are a diffrent feel. If we are talking basic muscle building i would go with what prime wrote but to really feel the muscle i would use cables like George said..not even Jones can change the constant tension that a cable gives. Cables are unique.
true donny ,,that's why i utilize all 3,,,different feel,workout,pump..
did back feeling rally well last few wokout strenghts is coming slow but steady..

hammer reverse pulldowns got up to 2 sets with 2 45's per side for 6 ,,,
cable low row x3 2 sets with 180 on the stack usually 210 not bad...
t bar row x3 heaviest set 3 45's for 10
standup pulldown to waist x3
db row got to 80's very good felt a bit stiff/pained but it loosed with bi's

weighted hypers what the heck started back use 45...

bi's
premade curl bar 60,70,80 supersetted with rope curls on cable bottom
db curls
seated scott curl stack weighted,,x2 slow reps down and top hold /squeeze something different

abs..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 18, 2013, 07:59:35 AM
true donny ,,that's why i utilize all 3,,,different feel,workout,pump..
did back feeling rally well last few wokout strenghts is coming slow but steady..

hammer reverse pulldowns got up to 2 sets with 2 45's per side for 6 ,,,
cable low row x3 2 sets with 180 on the stack usually 210 not bad...
t bar row x3 heaviest set 3 45's for 10
standup pulldown to waist x3
db row got to 80's very good felt a bit stiff/pained but it loosed with bi's

weighted hypers what the heck started back use 45...

bi's
premade curl bar 60,70,80 supersetted with rope curls on cable bottom
db curls
seated scott curl stack weighted,,x2 slow reps down and top hold /squeeze something different

abs..
great that your getting back in there Steve.. i have a Day off work and itīs sunny outside with a nice breeze. i was running in the woods. Just ate chicken in white sauce with rice... :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 18, 2013, 08:40:52 AM
great that your getting back in there Steve.. i have a Day off work and itīs sunny outside with a nice breeze. i was running in the woods. Just ate chicken in white sauce with rice... :P
NICE MEAL :)...YEAH GETTING MUSCLE SORENESS AGAIN NOT MUSCLE PAIN GOOD SIGN,,,THANX DONNY....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on April 18, 2013, 09:58:26 AM
True that cables, and even the BowFlex, keep a constant TUT on a working muscle, but to a much lesser degree than a Nautilus machine. Because of the  Nautilus cam gear that keeps nearly a 100% work load in the three phase positive, or negative, muscle contraction, when doing a true  full ROM. One reason the Nautilus, and machines like Nautilus, are so predominant in rehab and sport centers.

If the opportunity presents it's self, than a Nautilus style circuit workout may offer a better choice for working out. But that would be up to the individual and what his long range goals would be.  But to an older person, it may be very adaptable to their needs. Good Luck.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 18, 2013, 10:08:47 AM
maybe Jay could give us his feedback on this... he really is a dark horse and knows much more than he lets on... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 18, 2013, 10:36:28 AM
nautilus pullover,hamstring curl are 2 of the best pieces I have used
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 18, 2013, 02:13:25 PM
maybe Jay could give us his feedback on this... he really is a dark horse and knows much more than he lets on... ;)

All I know is from personal experience. Whenever I have taken a holiday from the gym, I always return to working out by using Nautilus exclusively.
The fact that one's range of motion is very controlled or strict reduces the chance of injuries. Because the ROM is so complete when used as recommended, a Nautilus workout can be brutal in terms of muscle soreness.

I particularly feel this in my pecs. I always begin my chest workout using the Nautilus Pec deck (or whatever it is called). It is an incline pec fly machine. Next I do lateral raises on the Nautilus. I then do incline presses, alternating a close parallel grip and the wide grip every other work out. Then I do shoulder presses and wind up doing pullovers on the Nautilus chest and back machine. There is no Nautilus equipment for decline presses at my gym. If there was, I might add them, although where I really need the chest development is in the upper pecs. Gravity has helped out the lower pecs. LOL.

Working legs, which is always were I begin this routine, I start out on the Nautilus leg extension then I do a set of seated leg curls, next I do calves and leg presses together because I use the same machine. Lastly, I finish up with lying leg curls....which are the hardest for me of all the leg exercises.

So the order of the muscles worked when doing my complete Nautilus routine is legs, chest, delts, back, abs, and arms....pretty much large muscles first working down to the smaller ones. I always do cardio prior to working out because I have found I am more apt to skip it if I leave it for the end.

After a few weeks or months on the Nautilus, I start added in some free weight or cable exercises. Fortunately, my gym has an abundance of different types of equipment to use. It is hard to ever get bored with working out there....once I get there.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 19, 2013, 12:58:46 AM
All I know is from personal experience. Whenever I have taken a holiday from the gym, I always return to working out by using Nautilus exclusively.
The fact that one's range of motion is very controlled or strict reduces the chance of injuries. Because the ROM is so complete when used as recommended, a Nautilus workout can be brutal in terms of muscle soreness.

I particularly feel this in my pecs. I always begin my chest workout using the Nautilus Pec deck (or whatever it is called). It is an incline pec fly machine. Next I do lateral raises on the Nautilus. I then do incline presses, alternating a close parallel grip and the wide grip every other work out. Then I do shoulder presses and wind up doing pullovers on the Nautilus chest and back machine. There is no Nautilus equipment for decline presses at my gym. If there was, I might add them, although where I really need the chest development is in the upper pecs. Gravity has helped out the lower pecs. LOL.

Working legs, which is always were I begin this routine, I start out on the Nautilus leg extension then I do a set of seated leg curls, next I do calves and leg presses together because I use the same machine. Lastly, I finish up with lying leg curls....which are the hardest for me of all the leg exercises.

So the order of the muscles worked when doing my complete Nautilus routine is legs, chest, delts, back, abs, and arms....pretty much large muscles first working down to the smaller ones. I always do cardio prior to working out because I have found I am more apt to skip it if I leave it for the end.

After a few weeks or months on the Nautilus, I start added in some free weight or cable exercises. Fortunately, my gym has an abundance of different types of equipment to use. It is hard to ever get bored with working out there....once I get there.
a great post Jay very detailed.. i work from 12 to 18.00 today so not so bad..and i will do a shoulder and arm workout and an interval cardio training on a bike.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on April 19, 2013, 08:23:54 AM
PrimeMuscle:

Very informative and that is the general way the Nautilus circuit training is done; starting with the largest muscle groups, down to the smallest. Do you do anymore than one cycle per circuit? And do you live near a college town, or campus, because full equipped Nautilus gym is hard to come by. Usually by, or in, a sports  or rehab center. At least in SoCal. Due to the expense, and size of the equipment, most average to small size gyms just can't afford them.

The percentage of injuries, with Nautilus is  very reduced  compared to other forms of weight training. Ideal for most persons needs, young or old..Hard to get women started on the machines, looks kind of unfriendly at first (I've been told) but after a while the women adjust very well. Most of the head banging hardcore guy's may try Nautilus but never seem to stay with them for any length of time. Some do, of course, most don't for whatever reason.

Good Luck, your are a fortunate man.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 19, 2013, 09:42:30 AM
DELTS...RECOVERING NICELY AND NEXT DAY AGAIN JUST SOME NORMAL POST WORKOUT SORENESS,AND SLIGHT MID/UPPER TIGHTNESS,,I STRETCH ALOT BETWEEN SETS NOW,,USED COOLING GEL STILL A BIT BEFORE BED AND ICED BACK AFTER WORKOUT,,OTHERWISE :)..

STARTED FRONT PRESS WORKED BACK UP TO 45 PER SIDE LAST SET 8 :D..
SIDE CABLE LATERALS
CABLE UPRIGHT ROW USED SINGLE HANDLES
BENT OVER REAR DELT RAISE DB LIGHT AND REPPED OVER 12 TOOK TIME ON THESE /SQUEEZED.
2 SETS UNDERHANDED DB FRONT RAISE..

SHRUGS SMITH SUPERSETTED 10X10 WITH 45 LP PLATE EACH HAND TO SIDE SQUEEZE AT TOP OF SHRUG.

FORARMS
CALVED STANDING CALF RAISE..

DID 4 SETS PEC DECK USED GRIP SO HANDS THUMBS FACED EACH OTHER ON END MOVEMENT ,,JUST WANTED TO GET SOME PUMP IN PECS DID THEM MONDAY SO 3 DAYS REST JUST DID SOME TO GET FULLNESS BACK ,,,FEW WKS CHEST WILL BE BACK TO USUAL FORM ITS CLOSE,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 19, 2013, 09:51:19 AM
incline db press   3 sets


flat bench smith machine  3 sets


incline flyes   3 sets


standing ez bar curls   4 sets

hammer curls    4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 19, 2013, 10:10:39 AM
Today i combined shoulders and Arms:
Smith machine press 4x10
Machine side raises 4x12
 Rear delt machine 4x12

machine bicep curl 5x10 superset with
Tricep rope push downs 5x10

Crunches  3xMax
30 mins interval programme on bike.... ;) a change today a machine workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 19, 2013, 01:38:03 PM
PrimeMuscle:

Very informative and that is the general way the Nautilus circuit training is done; starting with the largest muscle groups, down to the smallest. Do you do anymore than one cycle per circuit? And do you live near a college town, or campus, because full equipped Nautilus gym is hard to come by. Usually by, or in, a sports  or rehab center. At least in SoCal. Due to the expense, and size of the equipment, most average to small size gyms just can't afford them.

The percentage of injuries, with Nautilus is  very reduced  compared to other forms of weight training. Ideal for most persons needs, young or old..Hard to get women started on the machines, looks kind of unfriendly at first (I've been told) but after a while the women adjust very well. Most of the head banging hardcore guy's may try Nautilus but never seem to stay with them for any length of time. Some do, of course, most don't for whatever reason.

Good Luck, your are a fortunate man.
At present I am doing just one cycle. I am using 17 or 18 different machines. I do 12 reps. on each one.

As soon a the exercise starts seeming easy, I bump up the weight. Some of the equipment allows you to do this in 1lb. increments which is really handy. Most of the others are setup with 10 lb. weights on the stack. One can always throw on a 2.5 or 5 lb. weight if they are ready to increase the weight, but don't feel they can handle 10 lbs.

I work out at Nautilus Plus in Oregon City. I have belonged to this gym for 30 years. During this time, the gym has changed ownership three times. When it originally started it was at a different location in Oregon City nearer to the police station. The original owner was pro wrestler, Billy Jack Haynes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Jack_Haynes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Jack_Haynes) . It used to be called Nelson's Nautilus for many years. Myron Nelson, a retired fireman bought the gym from Billy Jack. Being a retired fireman, he offered free or reduced memberships to both firemen and police officers. His sons ran the day to day operations. Preston Nelson continued doing this up until the time Johnny and Lisa Ashy took over the gym. North Lake Physical Therapy has a facility which is attached to the gym and they use the equipment in the gym for their clients http://northlakephysicaltherapy.com/ (http://northlakephysicaltherapy.com/).

The nearest college is Clackamas Community College in Oregon City. It is about 2 miles away.

If you check out the gym's website above, you will see there is something for everyone there. Head bangers (Power lifters) even have their own space where they can blast their favorite hard rock music while they grunt, yell and even sometimes lift a heavy weight. LOL. I like using the pool occasionally when I don't feel like working out but still want to get some exercise.

Because I have been a member for so long, my annual dues are considerably less then those advertised.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 19, 2013, 02:47:30 PM
i just have to share this musical delight here  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 19, 2013, 03:08:05 PM
At present I am doing just one cycle. I am using 17 or 18 different machines. I do 12 reps. on each one.

As soon a the exercise starts seeming easy, I bump up the weight. Some of the equipment allows you to do this in 1lb. increments which is really handy. Most of the others are setup with 10 lb. weights on the stack. One can always throw on a 2.5 or 5 lb. weight if they are ready to increase the weight, but don't feel they can handle 10 lbs.

I work out at Nautilus Plus in Oregon City. I have belonged to this gym for 30 years. During this time, the gym has changed ownership three times. When it originally started it was at a different location in Oregon City nearer to the police station. The original owner was pro wrestler, Billy Jack Haynes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Jack_Haynes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Jack_Haynes) . It used to be called Nelson's Nautilus for many years. Myron Nelson, a retired fireman bought the gym from Billy Jack. Being a retired fireman, he offered free or reduced memberships to both firemen and police officers. His sons ran the day to day operations. Preston Nelson continued doing this up until the time Johnny and Lisa Ashy took over the gym. North Lake Physical Therapy has a facility which is attached to the gym and they use the equipment in the gym for their clients http://northlakephysicaltherapy.com/ (http://northlakephysicaltherapy.com/).

The nearest college is Clackamas Community College in Oregon City. It is about 2 miles away.

If you check out the gym's website above, you will see there is something for everyone there. Head bangers (Power lifters) even have their own space where they can blast their favorite hard rock music while they grunt, yell and even sometimes lift a heavy weight. LOL. I like using the pool occasionally when I don't feel like working out but still want to get some exercise.

Because I have been a member for so long, my annual dues are considerably less then those advertised.
looks a great therapy centre..like the pool
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 19, 2013, 03:34:25 PM
you know i like Greg plitt said this before but i like his videos..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 19, 2013, 04:51:16 PM
starting to get my mojo back,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 19, 2013, 04:54:11 PM
starting to get my mojo back,,,,
steve..solid looking ;) a true mature trainer who would put a lot of the young pups here to shame
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 19, 2013, 04:55:14 PM
this is good squats..
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Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 19, 2013, 05:01:49 PM
steve..solid looking ;) a true mature trainer who would put a lot of the young pups here to shame
man ur good p.r. person ...i'll use u if i go into politics,,, ;D...i actually have been enjoying the lighter training its relative anyway,,u build base u maintain base,,diet a bit to get leaner /harder which i'm showing now getting ready for lawn season /shirtless/tan soon,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 19, 2013, 05:10:19 PM
man ur good p.r. person ...i'll use u if i go into politics,,, ;D...i actually have been enjoying the lighter training its relative anyway,,u build base u maintain base,,diet a bit to get leaner /harder which i'm showing now getting ready for lawn season /shirtless/tan soon,,,
you are a good guy steve, a Family man and i like that.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 19, 2013, 05:15:01 PM
well i wish i could go shirtless too but at the moment in the heat i have too wear a hoody sweatshirt in the gym because iīm tattooed ::) sweat my arse off every day.. because i work there
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 19, 2013, 05:15:53 PM
well i wish i could go shirtless too but at the moment in the heat i have too wear a hoody sweatshirt in the gym because iīm tattooed ::) sweat my arse off every day
:)..no tatt's for me,,,how many???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 19, 2013, 05:19:45 PM
:)..no tatt's for me,,,how many???
both arms are covered and swallows on chest. old school stuff but i covered a naked woman on my right inner arm with a coy fish. Army thing steve and i had tattoos before i was 18. i do not regret them but do not advice young people to do it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 19, 2013, 05:24:18 PM
both arms are covered and swallows on chest. old school stuff but i covered a naked woman on my right inner arm with a coy fish. Army thing steve and i had tattoos before i was 18. i do not regret them but do not advice young people to do it.
:o,,,,,good stuff,,,i did an earring as a kid/young adult :P,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 19, 2013, 05:29:09 PM
:o,,,,,good stuff,,,i did an earring as a kid/young adult :P,,,
you know Steve you always come over as a good Man. I like your training and you are a very honest straight man. Really old school standards which i like and you show respect to people.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 19, 2013, 05:34:12 PM
you know Steve you always come over as a good Man. I like your training and you are a very honest straight man. Really old school standards which i like and you show respect to people.
my dad is old school italian,,,hand in mouth means run,,,kinda rubbed off,we kiss on lips ,,and cousins cheek of course,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 19, 2013, 05:47:29 PM
starting to get my mojo back,,,,

Yup!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 19, 2013, 05:50:37 PM
this is good squats..
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Yes they are. I haven't done weighted squats in ages.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 19, 2013, 05:52:37 PM
Yup!
thanks jay,,,loved that nautilus workout u posted,,i love some of those old nautilus machines,used pullover machine other way face into from back worked for triceps,,,hamstring curl was straight u could do tibulus extensions for frontal calf ,pad fit perfectly under toes to roll  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 19, 2013, 05:54:08 PM
both arms are covered and swallows on chest. old school stuff but i covered a naked woman on my right inner arm with a coy fish. Army thing steve and i had tattoos before i was 18. i do not regret them but do not advice young people to do it.

When I was a kid I remember my mother telling me that if I ever wanted to get a tattoo, I should get it on the bottom of my foot so no one would ever see it. Guess I got the message since I have no tattoos. There was a time when I thought they were pretty cool and I probably would have gotten some, had it not been for that voice in my head telling me where to put them.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 19, 2013, 05:58:43 PM
thanks jay,,,loved that nautilus workout u posted,,i love some of those old nautilus machines,used pullover machine other way face into from back worked for triceps,,,hamstring curl was straight u could do tibulus extensions for frontal calf ,pad fit perfectly under toes to roll  

You are right about them not being the newest Nautilus equipment. I am sure Nautilus has improved a lot since these were installed at the gym. The good thing is there is a lot of different machines which I really like using old or not. The photo doesn't really show how much Nautilus equipment there is there. In the weight room section there is some additional Nautilus machines along with Hammer Strength and other types.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on April 19, 2013, 06:57:47 PM
All the Nautilus machines were built around the patten cam gear (Art Jones designed/invention...with exclusive rights), which looks like a nautilus sea shell (hence the name). The only difference is the outer designs of these machines.The heart and soul is the original cam gear housing.  Lot's of phoney machine going around , using the "just like" or "almost like" a Nautilus exercise machine, but not close at all. Unless Jones sold the rights to other company's to use  the gear design or name, to other company's. Or his family did.

I have a tribal/clan tat, call a pe'a body tat. Took about two weeks to finish.  On the whole one side of my pec, delt and arm. Seen the Rock lately, something like that. No modern needles, that's sissy stuff.......had to get it old style island tradition ...hurt like a mofo. Beer helped a lot, even the guy doing my tat's was drinking.  Island ways!

Good Luck.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 19, 2013, 09:03:05 PM
All the Nautilus machines were built around the patten cam gear (Art Jones designed/invention...with exclusive rights), which looks like a nautilus sea shell (hence the name). The only difference is the outer designs of these machines.The heart and soul is the original cam gear housing.  Lot's of phoney machine going around , using the "just like" or "almost like" a Nautilus exercise machine, but not close at all. Unless Jones sold the rights to other company's to use  the gear design or name, to other company's. Or his family did.

I have a tribal/clan tat, call a pe'a body tat. Took about two weeks to finish.  On the whole one side of my pec, delt and arm. Seen the Rock lately, something like that. No modern needles, that's sissy stuff.......had to get it old style island tradition ...hurt like a mofo. Beer helped a lot, even the guy doing my tat's was drinking.  Island ways!

Good Luck.

I've seen videos of Māori's getting tattooed. It looks brutal. I have a high pain threshold, but not a lot of patience. I definitely don't have the patience to put up with something like this for two weeks.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 20, 2013, 02:01:42 AM
All the Nautilus machines were built around the patten cam gear (Art Jones designed/invention...with exclusive rights), which looks like a nautilus sea shell (hence the name). The only difference is the outer designs of these machines.The heart and soul is the original cam gear housing.  Lot's of phoney machine going around , using the "just like" or "almost like" a Nautilus exercise machine, but not close at all. Unless Jones sold the rights to other company's to use  the gear design or name, to other company's. Or his family did.

I have a tribal/clan tat, call a pe'a body tat. Took about two weeks to finish.  On the whole one side of my pec, delt and arm. Seen the Rock lately, something like that. No modern needles, that's sissy stuff.......had to get it old style island tradition ...hurt like a mofo. Beer helped a lot, even the guy doing my tat's was drinking.  Island ways!

Good Luck.
you know jpm you amaze me. If i talk about martial arts like i did on another thread you come over with your "expert" opinion and try to give a history lesson.. to me a guy who has trained for years but aside from this you now say needles are sissy. you have always got to push it son donīt you?. I can assure you, you would not say that to me. Tattoos we did as kids when i was 13/14 with a needle and Indian ink we stole from school art class. i still have these and covered them with professional tattoos. I knew guys who tattooed their hands ,neck,face...i never did this. Donīt talk about needles and tattoos you clown because you know nothing, infact you just get on my nerves with your BS. you are one arrogant asshole.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on April 20, 2013, 08:07:20 AM
Good morning Donny, hope your having a wonderful day. And many more of them.

You really take things way too seriously, guess that your nature. Example: That sissy remake was not meant to be taken seriously or literally. Sorry you miss that point. Tat's do cause pain, any one understands this. Just to note; some prison tat's are done with the end of a hot paper clip..open of course.

No sure where you got that "expert" thing, never claim anything like that. I do have a little experience, in different matters, and just passing it on. I like things explained to me, maybe I fault in trying to explain some thing to others with a bit more detail. I don't direct anything I might post to "Donny", just laying it out for the hundreds of others who might come to GB. Feel free to avoid anything I may write on GB, it's your choice after all. You seem like a very emotional and over sensitive chap.

You once wrote that you would like to punch me in the face, among other things..please wait at the end of the line, with all the others. Those PM's you kept sending me were not all that encouraging. But I really could care less. Quite a few other have posted me about you..... your fan base is not all that positive. Notice your extremely patronizing to some, on this thread. Must be a purpose for all that, because that's not your real nature.

Know we will not be BFF, just hoping we can just get along, to get along.  Good Luck.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 20, 2013, 08:19:52 AM
Good morning Donny, hope your having a wonderful day. And many more of them.

You really take things way too seriously, guess that your nature. Example: That sissy remake was not meant to be taken seriously or literally. Sorry you miss that point. Tat's do cause pain, any one understands this. Just to note; some prison tat's are done with the end of a hot paper clip..open of course.

No sure where you got that "expert" thing, never claim anything like that. I do have a little experience, in different matters, and just passing it on. I like things explained to me, maybe I fault in trying to explain some thing to others with a bit more detail. I don't direct anything I might post to "Donny", just laying it out for the hundreds of others who might come to GB. Feel free to avoid anything I may write on GB, it's your choice after all. You seem like a very emotional and over sensitive chap.

You once wrote that you would like to punch me in the face, among other things..please wait at the end of the line, with all the others. Those PM's you kept sending me were not all that encouraging. But I really could care less. Quite a few other have posted me about you..... your fan base is not all that positive. Notice your extremely patronizing to some, on this thread. Must be a purpose for all that, because that's not your real nature.

Know we will not be BFF, just hoping we can just get along, to get along.  Good Luck.
I USUALLY READ IF I'M IN A TRAINING THREAD YOUR POSTS AND THEY HAVE VALUE AND THEN ARE STAMPED WITH YOUR WAY OF PUTTING THEM SO TO SPEAK,,,SOME PEOPLE MIGHT FIND IT ARROGANT/CONDESCENDING,,,I DON'T NEED TO READ INTO IT TO FORM MY OWN OPINION OF YOU...DONNY IS A GREAT GUY ,,,SORRY ON UR TAKE.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 20, 2013, 08:53:45 AM
thanks Steve.. should not get my blood pressure up.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 20, 2013, 12:55:40 PM
jpm101 and Donny,

It looks like you two have some "history" going on. Please don't go all Hatfields and McCoys, it doesn't do either of you any good.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 20, 2013, 04:53:23 PM
My advice Donny is to ignore it and don't let it get to you.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 20, 2013, 06:01:48 PM
i have always thought that jpm101 is extremely arrogant......i can no longer read his posts......the guy is a legend in his own mind.



another dude that i have tired of is Fortress..... he used to write for a magazine and would interview these guys that he now dogs out......he is very negative!!! i no longer care to read his posts.


both of these guys can piss up a rope for all i care!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 20, 2013, 07:57:36 PM
i have always thought that jpm101 is extremely arrogant......i can no longer read his posts......the guy is a legend in his own mind.



another dude that i have tired of is Fortress..... he used to write for a magazine and would interview these guys that he now dogs out......he is very negative!!! i no longer care to read his posts.


both of these guys can piss up a rope for all i care!
When I was in the USA at the New York pro Shawn Ray pointed out a guy getting into an elevator and he said he used to write for a bodybuilding mag. He told me his name but I can't remember now. I have always thought that fortress was a very negative person going by his posts. I don't like him personally.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 20, 2013, 08:02:10 PM
Update, weather is beautiful here. Just got done laying in the sun and getting a good dose of vitamin D. Am working on my tan since its the best time of the year here for enjoying the sunshine. Will go for a brisk walk this afternoon. This is the time when the croc makes its appearance. It bakes in the sun in the afternoons. If I see it I will get a pic.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 21, 2013, 12:19:37 AM
Update, weather is beautiful here. Just got done laying in the sun and getting a good dose of vitamin D. Am working on my tan since its the best time of the year here for enjoying the sunshine. Will go for a brisk walk this afternoon. This is the time when the croc makes its appearance. It bakes in the sun in the afternoons. If I see it I will get a pic.

A former co-worker of mine was from down under, like you Booty. She couldn't believe how little interest Oregon dermatologist had in checking for skin cancer. From what she told me, it is big business there. She was permanently tanned but also freckled, which sometimes indicates a person actually has fairly fair skin.

I spent a good part of my early years crawling around the beach on Nantucket while my mom laid out in the sun to get a tan. While neither of us sunburned, she spent so much time in the sun tanning that she looked like a wrinkled prune when she was older. Fortunately, sunshine is fairly rare in the Pacific Northwest where I have lived the last 46 years, so I have not followed in my moms tan steps. No wrinkles here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 21, 2013, 12:27:59 AM
A former co-worker of mine was from down under, like you Booty. She couldn't believe how little interest Oregon dermatologist had in checking for skin cancer. From what she told me, it is big business there. She was permanently tanned but also freckled, which sometimes indicates a person actually has fairly fair skin.

I spent a good part of my early years crawling around the beach on Nantucket while my mom laid out in the sun to get a tan. While neither of us sunburned, she spent so much time in the sun tanning that she looked like a wrinkled prune when she was older. Fortunately, sunshine is fairly rare in the Pacific Northwest where I have lived the last 46 years, so I have not followed in my moms tan steps. No wrinkles here.
We have the highest incidence of skin cancer in the world. Fortunately I have been lucky so far. I have French in me from the south part in my mothers side and my mum is very olive but my father is quite fair. I am more like my mum. I look after my skin very well. That us why I am tanning now, as its autumn here and so the ultraviolet rays are less intense. I always wear 30 plus sunscreen on my face, neck and chest. My chest still tans with the sunscreen though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 21, 2013, 12:43:28 AM
We have the highest incidence of skin cancer in the world. Fortunately I have been lucky so far. I have French in me from the south part in my mothers side and my mum is very olive but my father is quite fair. I am more like my mum. I look after my skin very well. That us why I am tanning now, as its autumn here and so the ultraviolet rays are less intense. I always wear 30 plus sunscreen on my face, neck and chest. My chest still tans with the sunscreen though.

Like you, I am olive skinned. Not only that, my Grandmother on my mom's side was French, although she was from Brittany, which isn't exactly Southern France. I also have a smattering of Cherokee Indian. I never burn in the sun. When I use a tanning bed, I protect the skin around my eyes with sunscreen as well as smearing it on my junk (is that too much information?).
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 21, 2013, 01:00:13 AM
No not too much information.  :D I don't wear sunscreen on my junk. I use coconut oil all over and apparently it protects from skin cancer. I love the smell too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 21, 2013, 01:30:14 AM
I just have to watch in summer my balding frontal temple areas. I go brown fast but it can get red in the upper head area ;o no joke... i have dry skin and a bit of sun helps. I am not however someone who sits for long periods outside. walking,jogging,cycling outside gets me brown. coconut oil sounds great.. but donīt wanna look like a lobster....LOL
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 21, 2013, 01:44:46 AM
The lobster look is not a good look Donny. I am pretty certain that coconut oil has a natural sunscreen in it so you would be fine. Use the purest kind though, the type that can be eaten.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 21, 2013, 01:17:16 PM
No not too much information.  :D I don't wear sunscreen on my junk. I use coconut oil all over and apparently it protects from skin cancer. I love the smell too.

Good to know. I enjoy the odor of coconut oil. I think I have some which is an after shower oil that I sometimes use, because I like the way it makes my skin feel and how I smell.

Here is an interesting article regarding coconut oil: http://www.naturalnutritionadvisor.com/blog/?p=981 (http://www.naturalnutritionadvisor.com/blog/?p=981)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 21, 2013, 05:32:06 PM
legs today '''went to church.

quads
leg press 5 plates x12.6 plates x10,2 sets 7 plates x8/8
hack squats 3 plates x12,4 plates x10,5 plates x8
walking lunges 50 lb dbells x2
extensions x3 220 on stack 12 reps goal..

hams
dumbell stiff legged on a small stand 50/60/75 12/10/8
lying leg curl x3 140 on stack 12 rep sets

calves seated calf raise 3 set drops 8-10 reps 3.5 plates drop 25 off,, again drop 25 plate off .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 21, 2013, 06:19:35 PM
legs today '''went to church.

quads
leg press 5 plates x12.6 plates x10,2 sets 7 plates x8/8
hack squats 3 plates x12,4 plates x10,5 plates x8
walking lunges 50 lb dbells x2
extensions x3 220 on stack 12 reps goal..

hams
dumbell stiff legged on a small stand 50/60/75 12/10/8
lying leg curl x3 140 on stack 12 rep sets

calves seated calf raise 3 set drops 8-10 reps 3.5 plates drop 25 off,, again drop 25 plate off .


When I work quads, even when not doing Nautilus, I always do leg extensions first to warm up my knees. What are the arguments for and against doing extensions first? You use a lot of weight when doing leg extensions.

Compared to you, my hams are weak. No way could I use the weight you are using on lying leg curls. Stiff legged dead lifts are easier for me, but I rarely do them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 21, 2013, 06:49:00 PM
When I work quads, even when not doing Nautilus, I always do leg extensions first to warm up my knees. What are the arguments for and against doing extensions first? You use a lot of weight when doing leg extensions.

Compared to you, my hams are weak. No way could I use the weight you are using on lying leg curls. Stiff legged dead lifts are easier for me, but I rarely do them.
i do them 1st as well i do them heavy as well ,,i'll usually get up to 250/275 for 12 on sets on extensions as a warm up then squat sets 315/365/405 and then the lunges and so on,,,i do staright bar stifflegged up to 275 with barbell but to he honest 225 is the right groove i'm scaling back a tad on few leg exercises,,my legs are pretty freaky size/strenth,condition wise ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 21, 2013, 07:34:39 PM
i like to perform leg extensions first.....in an effort to warm up the knees.....but also to pre exhaust  the quads.....i seem to get more out of squats when i do them second in the routine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 21, 2013, 11:12:26 PM
i do them 1st as well i do them heavy as well ,,i'll usually get up to 250/275 for 12 on sets on extensions as a warm up then squat sets 315/365/405 and then the lunges and so on,,,i do staright bar stifflegged up to 275 with barbell but to he honest 225 is the right groove i'm scaling back a tad on few leg exercises,,my legs are pretty freaky size/strenth,condition wise ...

And my legs aren't freaky. This says a lot. The biggest they have ever been is 27" which is no big deal for a guy my height. Right now they are a little over 24" which makes them mere toothpicks.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 22, 2013, 12:55:54 AM
i like to perform leg extensions first.....in an effort to warm up the knees.....but also to pre exhaust  the quads.....i seem to get more out of squats when i do them second in the routine.
me too.. i did this yesterday, short ,sharp...direct to the point !!

leg extensions 3x15 superset with
Smith machine squats 3x10

seated leg curls 3x15 superset with
seated leg press 3x10-15

seated calf raises 5x15 itīs a calf machine where you are sitting at an angle and is like a seated calf raises on a leg press but special for calf, will take a pic. so it was short and fast. I am now doing a 3 day split due to work. still you have to adapt.. ;) wanted to do some Romanian Deads in there too but was short on time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 22, 2013, 07:26:21 AM
hope everyone had a pleasant weekend!


here is my delt routine:

standing barbell presses   3 sets

cable side laterals    3 sets

reverse cable flyes   3 sets

db shrugs    3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 22, 2013, 09:04:21 AM
spur of the moment today i combined chest and triceps, was going to do chest and back but i donīt know i just went by instinct..never usually combine chest and triceps.

negative BB press 3x6-10
Butterfly machine 3x12
Incline DB press 3x10
Seated Dips machine 3x12
Rope pushdowns 3x12-15

finished off with crunches 3x max and used an ab roller. Then 30 min Hill programme on running machine(was dying) ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 22, 2013, 10:07:58 AM
spur of the moment today i combined chest and triceps, was going to do chest and back but i donīt know i just went by instinct..never usually combine chest and triceps.

negative BB press 3x6-10
Butterfly machine 3x12
Incline DB press 3x10
Seated Dips machine 3x12
Rope pushdowns 3x12-15

finished off with crunches 3x max and used an ab roller. Then 30 min Hill programme on running machine(was dying) ;D
see I like chest tri's...or delts tris
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 22, 2013, 11:24:41 AM
see I like chest tri's...or delts tris
i prefer to train the bis and tris together.....just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 22, 2013, 11:30:17 AM
Normally I train arms on their own but I thought why not a change and make my workouts a bit more compact at the moment due to work loads.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 22, 2013, 11:54:06 AM
i prefer to train the bis and tris together.....just my 2 cents.
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IT WORKS,,,I NEED TO TRY TO ROTATE MY WORKOUTS AROUND IT,,,TO DO ARMS TOGETHER FOE A WHILE,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 22, 2013, 12:34:08 PM
i prefer to train the bis and tris together.....just my 2 cents.

One of the routines I have used in the past where I work essentially one muscle group a day, I train biceps, triceps and forearms together and then not again for another week. I like this routine because I really get to blast my arms and they usually need it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 22, 2013, 12:35:11 PM
see I like chest tri's...or delts tris

Yes. There is a good tie-in between these muscle groups.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 22, 2013, 12:37:27 PM
Normally I train arms on their own but I thought why not a change and make my workouts a bit more compact at the moment due to work loads.

Change is usually good when it comes to working out. Otherwise, I tend to get stuck in a rut and I can only increase the weight load so much because I have strength limits which I can never seem to exceed, particularly now that I am older.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 22, 2013, 12:50:07 PM
THERE SO MANY BREAKDOWN GOD U COULD DRIVE UR SELF NUTS I'VE DONE
BACK/HAMS
QUADS/CALVES
TOTAL LEGS LIKE NOWADAYS
BI/TRI
BACK /BI CURRENTLY DO...
DELT/BI
DELT/TRI
CHEST /TRI CURRENTLY DO,,,
BACK/REARDELTS/TRAPS LONG ONE..
DELTS/TRAPS/FOREARMS/CALVES CURRENTLY DOING...
2 ON 1 OFF
3 ON 2 OFF
3 ON 1 OFF
5 ON 2 OFF WEEKENDS
3 ON 1 WITH 2 ON 1..OFF WITH ROTATE BODYPARTS EVERYTHING DONE ONCE BUT ONE BODYPARTS BUMPS UP TO GET DONE 2X AND THEN GETS REST 7 DAYS AND NEXT BODYPART BUMPS UP FOR SECOND ROUND.
MON/WED/FRI/SAT.. A LABRADA FAVORITE,,,
I DO 4 DAYS WITH YOUNG KIDS EVERY THING 1X PERWK AND ABS CALVES 2X..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 22, 2013, 01:48:40 PM
It's good to change now and again like Jay wrote..there is so many combinations..it is great to read all the splits here and what works for each person...George gave me the idea doing some Smith machine squats for a change...Steve chest and triceps ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 22, 2013, 04:56:11 PM
It is 70 degrees today and sunny. My workout routine was 2.5 hours of gardening; weeding, trimming shrubs and vines, deadheading spent daffodils, spraying the cracks in the concrete where weeds tend to grown and raking everything up. I filled up two yard debris barrels. If the weather is good tomorrow, I will probably do more of the same.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 22, 2013, 07:07:51 PM
It is 70 degrees today and sunny. My workout routine was 2.5 hours of gardening; weeding, trimming shrubs and vines, deadheading spent daffodils, spraying the cracks in the concrete where weeds tend to grown and raking everything up. I filled up two yard debris barrels. If the weather is good tomorrow, I will probably do more of the same.
nice,,i filled 2 barrels and 1 bag of fresh cut lawn,i use lawn doctor for those who use something similar in there area or country,,they basically weed and control with right chemicals your lawn to get green,maintain it,,,i cut it myself,,it looks like a thick green carpet minimal weed if any,,,it took me yrs to get it like this,,,i was very jealous of my neighbors ,,,now i have one of the best lawns...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 22, 2013, 10:28:34 PM
It's good to change now and again like Jay wrote..there is so many combinations..it is great to read all the splits here and what works for each person...George gave me the idea doing some Smith machine squats for a change...Steve chest and triceps ...
I need to mix things up more I must admit. I just have favouritism over certain exercises that I know my body responds better to.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 22, 2013, 10:35:56 PM
nice,,i filled 2 barrels and 1 bag of fresh cut lawn,i use lawn doctor for those who use something similar in there area or country,,they basically weed and control with right chemicals your lawn to get green,maintain it,,,i cut it myself,,it looks like a thick green carpet minimal weed if any,,,it took me yrs to get it like this,,,i was very jealous of my neighbors ,,,now i have one of the best lawns...

Fortunately, I cut my lawn the other day, so it wasn't on my agenda today. I think I have finally conquered the moss in the grass out front this year with lots of lime applications. Another thing, I raise the blade on the lawnmower up one notch. After cutting the grass it is still long, but it is lush and green and stands up straight. I suspect that it is just like the True Value Hardware store add says, the longer the grass the deeper the roots; drainage was not a problem this winter at all. I did fertilize the lawn about a month ago. I didn't need weed killer in the mix because there aren't any. They crop up in the planting beds.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 22, 2013, 10:36:56 PM
I need to mix things up more I must admit. I just have favouritism over certain exercises that I know my body responds better to.

You are right, we all have favorites. That is part of why we get into a rut sometimes.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 23, 2013, 01:45:30 AM
well i will get a cardio workout in today then work till 9pm. I feel good today chest and triceps feeling well trained from yesterday. will go for a run in the woods get some nature and fresh air.. sometimes meet the odd deer in the woods. Wild pigs roam the woods too but they shy away from people, they can be aggressive if they have young piggies with them.. ;D imagine being chased by these wild piggies...LOL. Remember on field exercises on sentry duty at night in a trench watching them moving around coming near our gun position looking for food. I had a night sight scope on my SLR rifle so i could see them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 23, 2013, 05:47:20 AM
well i will get a cardio workout in today then work till 9pm. I feel good today chest and triceps feeling well trained from yesterday. will go for a run in the woods get some nature and fresh air.. sometimes meet the odd deer in the woods. Wild pigs roam the woods too but they shy away from people, they can be aggressive if they have young piggies with them.. ;D imagine being chased by these wild piggies...LOL. Remember on field exercises on sentry duty at night in a trench watching them moving around coming near our gun position looking for food. I had a night sight scope on my SLR rifle so i could see them.
lol... :D.. :P..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Kolchak on April 23, 2013, 11:09:07 AM
Hey, folks.  I'll be 43 in July and have been training seriously and naturally for about four years.  I work out what I feel is pretty hard in the gym, doing 10 to 12 sets per bodypart, going to failure, etc., and working each body part once per week.  I feel that I've made very good gains in my physique and strength, at least compared to where I was when I started (I'm only competing with myself).

I feel that I have stopped making gains, both physique wise and strength wise.  I'm happy where I'm at, but, you know, why not strive for more if you can? 

I guess I'm wondering whether I've just reached a plateau or whether this is as far as my body is going being my age (nearly 43), being natural, and starting so late in life.  I think I work pretty hard in the gym, and am not really interested in adding too much more lest I get burnt out and lose interest altogether.

If this is as far as I can go, I'm wondering whether it's a good idea to keep pushing myself hard in the gym (I'm not getting any younger), or best to just do a maintenance routine and concentrate on overall conditioning, etc. 

Has anyone else gone through this, and can perhaps offer thoughts and/or advice.  I realize I've been pretty general about my routine, etc.  Thanks.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 23, 2013, 12:00:39 PM
Hey, folks.  I'll be 43 in July and have been training seriously and naturally for about four years.  I work out what I feel is pretty hard in the gym, doing 10 to 12 sets per bodypart, going to failure, etc., and working each body part once per week.  I feel that I've made very good gains in my physique and strength, at least compared to where I was when I started (I'm only competing with myself).

I feel that I have stopped making gains, both physique wise and strength wise.  I'm happy where I'm at, but, you know, why not strive for more if you can? 

I guess I'm wondering whether I've just reached a plateau or whether this is as far as my body is going being my age (nearly 43), being natural, and starting so late in life.  I think I work pretty hard in the gym, and am not really interested in adding too much more lest I get burnt out and lose interest altogether.

If this is as far as I can go, I'm wondering whether it's a good idea to keep pushing myself hard in the gym (I'm not getting any younger), or best to just do a maintenance routine and concentrate on overall conditioning, etc. 

Has anyone else gone through this, and can perhaps offer thoughts and/or advice.  I realize I've been pretty general about my routine, etc.  Thanks.
PUSH HARD YES,,,BUT GET IN OVERALL LEAN CONDITION TO MAINTAIN NICE LOOK,,,BULKING UNLESS THATS GOAL IS A WASTE.CAUSE U END UP YO/YO BETWEEN LOOKS,PICK A WINDOW 5/10 LBS OF BEST RIPPED SHAPE AND GET THERE IN SUMMER TIME AND LOOSEN UP A TAD AND I MEAN TAD IN WINTER...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on April 23, 2013, 12:39:38 PM
Kolchak: Don't know why so many guy's think that reaching their forties is the end of the line, as far a progress in muscle size and strength is concerned. Even in the 60's, and beyond, progress can be made, if approaching training with a well planned and throughout program.

 It's been said that the forties are the new twenties today. And they can be. Train with serious intent and do work hard, by all means. Only adjustments might be less exercises and sets in a workout. And really no need to go to the point of failure in any exercise. Recovery is going to be of prime importance now. This is the time to work extra smart. May not be 20 anymore, but in the 40's the body will still respond favorably to any  realistic demands put on it. Let common sense be your guide, more so than in younger years. BB'er still advance, Pl'ers still break records in their 40's.

If having joint or lower back issues, than warm up more. Rather than the heavy 4-5 rep  push or pulls, select a more moderate weight for higher reps. Moderate does not always mean a lighter weight. Might also try  to work at a faster pace during workouts. TUT can be extremely important for adding improved muscle and size. Taking a week (or two) away from training seems to have helped many people, also. Sometime a break is truly needed, for the young or old.. Good Luck.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 23, 2013, 01:07:31 PM
Hey, folks.  I'll be 43 in July and have been training seriously and naturally for about four years.  I work out what I feel is pretty hard in the gym, doing 10 to 12 sets per bodypart, going to failure, etc., and working each body part once per week.  I feel that I've made very good gains in my physique and strength, at least compared to where I was when I started (I'm only competing with myself).

I feel that I have stopped making gains, both physique wise and strength wise.  I'm happy where I'm at, but, you know, why not strive for more if you can? 

I guess I'm wondering whether I've just reached a plateau or whether this is as far as my body is going being my age (nearly 43), being natural, and starting so late in life.  I think I work pretty hard in the gym, and am not really interested in adding too much more lest I get burnt out and lose interest altogether.

If this is as far as I can go, I'm wondering whether it's a good idea to keep pushing myself hard in the gym (I'm not getting any younger), or best to just do a maintenance routine and concentrate on overall conditioning, etc. 

Has anyone else gone through this, and can perhaps offer thoughts and/or advice.  I realize I've been pretty general about my routine, etc.  Thanks.
wellcome.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2013, 02:01:56 PM
Hey, folks.  I'll be 43 in July and have been training seriously and naturally for about four years.  I work out what I feel is pretty hard in the gym, doing 10 to 12 sets per bodypart, going to failure, etc., and working each body part once per week.  I feel that I've made very good gains in my physique and strength, at least compared to where I was when I started (I'm only competing with myself).

I feel that I have stopped making gains, both physique wise and strength wise.  I'm happy where I'm at, but, you know, why not strive for more if you can? 

I guess I'm wondering whether I've just reached a plateau or whether this is as far as my body is going being my age (nearly 43), being natural, and starting so late in life.  I think I work pretty hard in the gym, and am not really interested in adding too much more lest I get burnt out and lose interest altogether.

If this is as far as I can go, I'm wondering whether it's a good idea to keep pushing myself hard in the gym (I'm not getting any younger), or best to just do a maintenance routine and concentrate on overall conditioning, etc. 

Has anyone else gone through this, and can perhaps offer thoughts and/or advice.  I realize I've been pretty general about my routine, etc.  Thanks.

Nice introductory post. Some people in their 40's benefit from doing fewer sets and allowing more rest between workouts. Although you are still a youngster in my book, you might try working each muscle group only twice or even only once a week. Overtraining is often the reason people stop making gains. Anyway, the best goal to have is to be healthy and reasonably fit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 24, 2013, 01:46:24 AM
I know one thing you canīt turn the clock back but you can make your quality of life better...that in itīs self is the reason to train into your "Golden" years  ;) iīm 47 on May 29th.. bring it on !

yesterday i did back and Biceps:::
10 min warm up on bike easy manuel programme...
Wide grip chins 3xmax
Seated pulley rows 3x10
seated machine rows(chest against pad) wide grip 3x10
Hyperextensions 3x15-20 45 degrees just bodyweight.

Bicep ez bar standing curl 3x8
machine preacher curl 3x12
ABS.. Ab roller 3x max
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 24, 2013, 05:49:24 AM
Nice introductory post. Some people in their 40's benefit from doing fewer sets and allowing more rest between workouts. Although you are still a youngster in my book, you might try working each muscle group only twice or even only once a week. Overtraining is often the reason people stop making gains. Anyway, the best goal to have is to be healthy and reasonably fit.
right jay ..I do once per week hard,,,,,calves and abs 2x..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 25, 2013, 02:00:49 AM
so today i will do legs:

leg extensions 3x15 Superset with
leg curls 3x15

Smith machine squats 3x10 Superset with
Romanian Deadlifts 3x10-15
calf raises on machine 5x15-20

I might throw in some seated leg press for good measures.
Cardio bike on a hill programme to really further exhaust my legs and calfes.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 25, 2013, 09:20:40 AM
back felt really good almost 100pct..
chin-ups 1st time in 5 wks lol,,,felt weak but got 3 sets 8/10 almost full to top,,usually 12/15 reps but as usual good pump to start...
did 1 knee up on bench pad 1 arm rows again went into usual territory last set with 90's for 10
low cable pulley rows 3x with 195 on stack was only using 135/150 few wks ago so almost full strength usual 210/225 on them
hammer reverse pulldown x3 did 2 plates per side 6/8 on heaviset sets close to full form there too,,
finished tbar row chest to pad elevated version finished 2x 12 reps went lighter 45 plus 25 and a ten on second set
lots of stretching betwwen sets and I think this will be the norm,,,i need to stretch/warm up more to avoid this again...

weighted hypers with 45 plate

bi's
cable curls
db curls
machine curl scott curl type ..

abs 4 sets 30 reps crunches feet elevated on bench body on floor...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 25, 2013, 01:08:23 PM
back felt really good almost 100pct..
chin-ups 1st time in 5 wks lol,,,felt weak but got 3 sets 8/10 almost full to top,,usually 12/15 reps but as usual good pump to start...
did 1 knee up on bench pad 1 arm rows again went into usual territory last set with 90's for 10
low cable pulley rows 3x with 195 on stack was only using 135/150 few wks ago so almost full strength usual 210/225 on them
hammer reverse pulldown x3 did 2 plates per side 6/8 on heaviset sets close to full form there too,,
finished tbar row chest to pad elevated version finished 2x 12 reps went lighter 45 plus 25 and a ten on second set
lots of stretching betwwen sets and I think this will be the norm,,,i need to stretch/warm up more to avoid this again...

weighted hypers with 45 plate

bi's
cable curls
db curls
machine curl scott curl type ..

abs 4 sets 30 reps crunches feet elevated on bench body on floor...
Great workout Steve.. youīll soon be back to your old training weights.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 25, 2013, 08:54:26 PM
delts felt stronger than last week....
front press x3 and last set 4th 3 set drop plate off at time..did 45 and some 10's each side stripped down good pump..
side laterals 25/25/30/30 dbs 10-12 reps
bent over seated rears x3
uprights x3 did full reps 6-8 then half rep to lower chest area kinda squeezes side delts as well for 6 ...

shrugs hi reps sets 20 x3 and behind back x2...

forearms reverse wrist curl cablex3 and weighted rope rolls x3
calves standing calf raises x5

nice workout getting better each time ,,,stronger...
donny appreciates classic bbing tryin classic zane/david statue pose lol,,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 26, 2013, 12:08:57 AM
delts felt stronger than last week....
front press x3 and last set 4th 3 set drop plate off at time..did 45 and some 10's each side stripped down good pump..
side laterals 25/25/30/30 dbs 10-12 reps
bent over seated rears x3
uprights x3 did full reps 6-8 then half rep to lower chest area kinda squeezes side delts as well for 6 ...

shrugs hi reps sets 20 x3 and behind back x2...

forearms reverse wrist curl cablex3 and weighted rope rolls x3
calves standing calf raises x5

nice workout getting better each time ,,,stronger...
donny appreciates classic bbing tryin classic zane/david statue pose lol,,,,,
Looking great, in fact better than ever. I love the classic style of posing. Better than today's posing where they try to hide their gh guts.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 26, 2013, 05:02:34 AM
Looking great, in fact better than ever. I love the classic style of posing. Better than today's posing where they try to hide their gh guts.
thank you karen i appreciate a pretty lady's point of view ;),,,,trying to avoid through diet/strong exercise /rest/a youthful as i can almost 45 yr old body ,,,i'm healed and learned some lessons this time when i hurt self this time,,,i look at guys like benfatto/zane/labrada guys who look is as important as how much muscle one could pack on his/her chosen frame...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 26, 2013, 10:15:29 AM
so today i will do legs:

leg extensions 3x15 Superset with
leg curls 3x15

Smith machine squats 3x10 Superset with
Romanian Deadlifts 3x10-15
calf raises on machine 5x15-20

I might throw in some seated leg press for good measures.
Cardio bike on a hill programme to really further exhaust my legs and calfes.
looks like a good leg workout!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 26, 2013, 10:29:55 AM
looks like a good leg workout!!
thanks George  ;D...

Did a short shoulder workout today::

machine side delt raises(very strict movement) 4x12
Superset with
Smith machine front press 4x12

Rear delt raises Dumbbell 4x12
superset with
Dumbbell shrugs 4x15 (unusual superset but worked well)

Cardio 45 min run outside and 3x max hanging knee raises for Abs...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 26, 2013, 12:15:36 PM
delts felt stronger than last week....
front press x3 and last set 4th 3 set drop plate off at time..did 45 and some 10's each side stripped down good pump..
side laterals 25/25/30/30 dbs 10-12 reps
bent over seated rears x3
uprights x3 did full reps 6-8 then half rep to lower chest area kinda squeezes side delts as well for 6 ...

shrugs hi reps sets 20 x3 and behind back x2...

forearms reverse wrist curl cablex3 and weighted rope rolls x3
calves standing calf raises x5

nice workout getting better each time ,,,stronger...
donny appreciates classic bbing tryin classic zane/david statue pose lol,,,,,

Are you naturally hairless or do you shave the hair on your body? You look great; natural (as in not PED'd to the hilt) and yet fit and muscular. Way to go at almost 45 years of age Steve.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 26, 2013, 12:28:57 PM
Are you naturally hairless or do you shave the hair on your body? You look great; natural (as in not PED'd to the hilt) and yet fit and muscular. Way to go at almost 45 years of age Steve.
shave chest every day,,,forarms every 3/4 days ,,legs i buzz every couple weeks,,,hairy italian legs black hair :P,,,i use a lot creams to keep skin nice,,,some metrosexual tendencies drives wife crazy lol,,thanks jay for kind words and analysis....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 26, 2013, 12:37:41 PM
shave chest every day,,,forarms every 3/4 days ,,legs i buzz every couple weeks,,,hairy italian legs black hair :P,,,i use a lot creams to keep skin nice,,,some metrosexual tendencies drives wife crazy lol,,thanks jay for kind words and analysis....

My wife prefers me hairy. I prefer me hair free (when I am in good shape). Right now the compromise is that I am trimming the body hair short, this way I keep my wife happy and I can still see any progress I make. I used to shave all the body hair off, which feels really good to the touch. Oh well! Unlike you, my hair is light brown and white in some places.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 26, 2013, 12:52:09 PM
i must admit i am not very hairy..shave under arms and chest but i do not have a lot of hair. even on chest and back not much.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 26, 2013, 07:43:33 PM
thank you karen i appreciate a pretty lady's point of view ;),,,,trying to avoid through diet/strong exercise /rest/a youthful as i can almost 45 yr old body ,,,i'm healed and learned some lessons this time when i hurt self this time,,,i look at guys like benfatto/zane/labrada guys who look is as important as how much muscle one could pack on his/her chosen frame...
You are welcome, only telling the truth.  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 26, 2013, 07:46:21 PM
Since we are talking about body hair..... I am lucky as I have fine light body hair and very little. Apart from the head which is where I should have plenty.  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 26, 2013, 08:18:38 PM
Since we are talking about body hair..... I am lucky as I have fine light body hair and very little. Apart from the head which is where I should have plenty.  :D

I have always heard that a woman's most important feature is her gowning glory, as in the hair she has on her head. My daughter, who is quite beautiful, shaved her head right after her son was born. Amazingly, it actually enhanced her beauty. She has grown it back and she still looks beautiful. My mom prized her mane of hair all her life. She never suffered from hair thinning and up until the day she died, she had an amazing head of hair.

Do many women have issues with body hair? I know that some have issues with facial hair as they age and their hormones go crazy. My wife spends at least a couple of hours a week plucking unwanted facial hair. Her hormones have been in the toilet for decades.

My wife went through early menopause when she was still in her thirties. Our daughter seems to have inherited much of the same symptoms as her mother has had. I probably didn't offer anything good in terms of genetic predisposition to hormonal issues since I have had testosterone deficiencies since my twenties. My wife and I think of both of our children as miracle children. Given all of our issues, it is amazing that we managed to reproduce.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 26, 2013, 08:38:52 PM
ok,,little get know steve,donny,karen,jay,george...i'll go 1st

44
sign cancer
eye brwn/hair brown
yr training 25
fav bodyparts all,,but chest/legs/back are best
bbers i admire builds b paris/labrada/zane/arnolds chest.
thing i hate  cardio boring do '0'
fav morn meal good eggbeater/white omlete/wheat toast
fav food italian,,sushi is in there too,good steak or ravioli loster/cheese
binge food salsa and whole grain chip or low fat icecream lol..
fav in betwwen indulgance cannot say no to good slice pizza
car... bmw 5 series very clean do it myself most of the time
color grey/black/brown/
fav movies mob type donnie brasco/goodfellas/godfather 2 better then 1,bronx tale,casino,some stallone rocky 4 and rambo 2
music u2 seen them bunch of time have all there music
i listen to italian or italian american as well dean martin being one of the best smooth voice /classic looks....
kids 2 girls....7/3
person's people say i resemble stallone,pacino,adam sandler lol,armand assante,tony danza,springsteen lol,,and when in 20's van damme had haircut/look i milked that one at bars..
had guido mullet long back and spiked or slicked top 88/90
yes had camaro,,turtlenecks,black reeboks,horn with chain around neck,cavarrici's.
never big drinker,,enjoy red wine very much and like italian whites as well..
i'm family guy parents are great people and kinda mama's boy lol,,,
i think that will do,,,

 







Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 26, 2013, 08:42:59 PM
I think that society in general is becoming hair free, body wise. I have had laser and its becoming very common now. More and more women I talk to are opting for laser which is permanent hair reduction. Men shave their legs and trim and shave their privates. I don't think my hair is my clowning glory however when I was on constant antibiotics for 16 months it really suffered the most. And I hated having flat lifeless hair. Now it's healthy and full and shiny. As far as hormones go I get my period every month and nothing seems to be different. My mum got menapause quite late so I am likely to take after her.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 27, 2013, 01:51:58 AM
ok,,little get know steve,donny,karen,jay,george...i'll go 1st

44
sign cancer
eye brwn/hair brown
yr training 25
fav bodyparts all,,but chest/legs/back are best
bbers i admire builds b paris/labrada/zane/arnolds chest.
thing i hate  cardio boring do '0'
fav morn meal good eggbeater/white omlete/wheat toast
fav food italian,,sushi is in there too,good steak or ravioli loster/cheese
binge food salsa and whole grain chip or low fat icecream lol..
fav in betwwen indulgance cannot say no to good slice pizza
car... bmw 5 series very clean do it myself most of the time
color grey/black/brown/
fav movies mob type donnie brasco/goodfellas/godfather 2 better then 1,bronx tale,casino,some stallone rocky 4 and rambo 2
music u2 seen them bunch of time have all there music
i listen to italian or italian american as well dean martin being one of the best smooth voice /classic looks....
kids 2 girls....7/3
person's people say i resemble stallone,pacino,adam sandler lol,armand assante,tony danza,springsteen lol,,and when in 20's van damme had haircut/look i milked that one at bars..
had guido mullet long back and spiked or slicked top 88/90
yes had camaro,,turtlenecks,black reeboks,horn with chain around neck,cavarrici's.
never big drinker,,enjoy red wine very much and like italian whites as well..
i'm family guy parents are great people and kinda mama's boy lol,,,
i think that will do,,,

68
Virgo
eyes green/hair blond (now white from old age).
training 52 years, on and off
favorite bodyparts are all but legs and chest more so.
Bodybuilders I admire, anyone who looks better than I do, with a preference for the classics of the 60's
I hate every thing that gets in the way of my making it to the gym.
I have to drink a glass of orange juice every morning. The rest is optional.
I like all foods as long as they are prepared well.
I don't binge eat.
When I want a snack, nuts are a first choice and French fries are a close second.
I am not a car person. Whatever gets me from one place to another safely is fine with me. I do love the look of a Jaguar though, but then I also like the new Fiat.
My favorite colors are earth tones and black..
Favorite movie of all time is Accidental Tourist with William Hurt.
I gravitate to classical and jazz music. But I enjoy all music with the exception of hard rock, country, Dixieland.
My wife and I have a son and a daughter who are now 46 and 37 years old. Two children was my ideal. My wife wanted five children. They produced 4 grandchildren, two boys and two girls.
I resemble everyone and no one. I have been mistaken for Donald Sutherland in the past. Personally, I don't see the resemblance.
Having gone mostly bald in my twenties, I have never sported a mullet.
Minus the drugs, I affected the dress of a hippy during those years. Today I am a fairly conservative dresser.When I was sixteen years old I wanted a 57 powder blue Thunderbird, Instead my parents bought me a 55 Chevrolet Bel Air convertible, exactly like the one Cheech and Cbong had. Too bad that I didn't appreciate it.
I think I drink too much alcohol. The problem is that I rarely get drunk so there is no way for me to know when to stop drinking. On the plus side, I am so uninhibited that when I drink I am the same person I am when I don't drink.
My mother has passed. We were best friends, so it might be accurate to say I was sort of a momma's boy, although I was very rebellious and rarely did what she wanted me to. Family is everything to me.
There is so much more about me, but as you suggested....I think this will do.
 


 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 27, 2013, 02:15:16 AM
I think that society in general is becoming hair free, body wise. I have had laser and its becoming very common now. More and more women I talk to are opting for laser which is permanent hair reduction. Men shave their legs and trim and shave their privates. I don't think my hair is my clowning glory however when I was on constant antibiotics for 16 months it really suffered the most. And I hated having flat lifeless hair. Now it's healthy and full and shiny. As far as hormones go I get my period every month and nothing seems to be different. My mum got menapause quite late so I am likely to take after her.

All the women in my life have had hormonal issues. My mom, had a partial hysterectomy after I was born because she screwed up her reproductive organs by taking a heavy dose of laxatives which brought on labor before I had gone full term. She did not want to look pregnant any longer (it is a long story). Both of my sisters are adopted because my mother could not get pregnant after she had me. My wife started early menopause right after our daughter was born when my wife was 33 years old. Our daughter followed in her mother's footsteps. She started menopause when she was in her thirties.

You are blessed to still be fertile. Besides not being able to get pregnant, having hormonal imbalances when you are still comparatively young is no picnic.

To add insult to injury, I have suffered from low testosterone for most of my adult life. Who knows, maybe it was a blessing. If I had been more sexually charged, I might have gotten up to a lot of no good.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 27, 2013, 03:53:56 AM
ok,,little get know steve,donny,karen,jay,george...i'll go 1st

44
sign cancer
eye brwn/hair brown
yr training 25
fav bodyparts all,,but chest/legs/back are best
bbers i admire builds b paris/labrada/zane/arnolds chest.
thing i hate  cardio boring do '0'
fav morn meal good eggbeater/white omlete/wheat toast
fav food italian,,sushi is in there too,good steak or ravioli loster/cheese
binge food salsa and whole grain chip or low fat icecream lol..
fav in betwwen indulgance cannot say no to good slice pizza
car... bmw 5 series very clean do it myself most of the time
color grey/black/brown/
fav movies mob type donnie brasco/goodfellas/godfather 2 better then 1,bronx tale,casino,some stallone rocky 4 and rambo 2
music u2 seen them bunch of time have all there music
i listen to italian or italian american as well dean martin being one of the best smooth voice /classic looks....
kids 2 girls....7/3
person's people say i resemble stallone,pacino,adam sandler lol,armand assante,tony danza,springsteen lol,,and when in 20's van damme had haircut/look i milked that one at bars..
had guido mullet long back and spiked or slicked top 88/90
yes had camaro,,turtlenecks,black reeboks,horn with chain around neck,cavarrici's.
never big drinker,,enjoy red wine very much and like italian whites as well..
i'm family guy parents are great people and kinda mama's boy lol,,,
i think that will do,,,

 








well ...
i am nearly 47 (may 29th)
i am 170cm 5ī7 and relitivly stocky from nature but with small joints
black hair which i shave as iīm going bald and blue eyes.
I have trained about 30 years with breaks here and there.
I work in Fitness so i am daily involved with people and fitness
my car...well i wonīt embarasse myself but itīs Japanese... ;D
I love to eat fish, pasta.. i love ice cream. I eat pizza now and again but only when my son orders a big one and i get a piece or two... ;)
Films i love old 60s films.. i love Platoon great film. I like the old Steve Reeves,Gordon Scott, reg park stuff.
I drink a beer now and again and when iīm with a good friend will drink my fill and get drunk..LOL
Most people say i sound like Sean Connery.. I find as i age i am more and more tolerant and as a young guy i was more explosive..
training wise i like cardio and train Bodybuilding/fitness wise.. I like Greg Plitt(will no doubt get flak for this)
I think my favourite Bodypart is shoulders which grow fast on me and i can superset them all Day!!
I have been married since 1988 and have 2 sons 21 and 23
I speak fluent German and learned Sport und fitnesskaufmann, IHK Hannover and am a Fitness Trainer.
I enjoy contact with people and am friendly but can also be direct when i need to be.
Music well i like a wide spectrum really..but mainly rock and punk.. the Clash...The Stranglers. I used to run around with spiked hair and stuff as a kid but i look very normal now apart from an earring and tattoos.
Dislikes: people who think they know it all and who are cocky. I also do not like discrimination of any kind be that skin colour,race or anything. I also do not like Conservative people.
I am a Scotsman who is very proud of his Roots...i wish i had learned to play the pipes...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 27, 2013, 05:22:44 AM
awesome...thanks for sharing,,,donny about greg plitt,,if ur a good trainer,smart,a good build is a good build whether ur 180/250 ..i prefer a build that looks big but has functional look as well,shape and good abs a must not bloated look ,,,we have seen hundreds of good builds 60/70/80/90 pics on here but yeah 60/70 had some real classic looks ,,,80's still but later on they were less the norm,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 27, 2013, 07:36:01 AM
awesome...thanks for sharing,,,donny about greg plitt,,if ur a good trainer,smart,a good build is a good build whether ur 180/250 ..i prefer a build that looks big but has functional look as well,shape and good abs a must not bloated look ,,,we have seen hundreds of good builds 60/70/80/90 pics on here but yeah 60/70 had some real classic looks ,,,80's still but later on they were less the norm,,,
yes i train more for fitness and am not big. I am fairly strong for my size and do an all round programme. I have always liked boxing and did in the Army and also weight training. A great idea Steve to say who you are.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 27, 2013, 12:02:05 PM
Donny,

Your statement saying you do not like conservative people is interesting. How would you describe a conservative person?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 27, 2013, 12:11:40 PM
Donny,

Your statement saying you do not like conservative people is interesting. How would you describe a conservative person?
someone who is very money orientated and very class structured.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on April 27, 2013, 12:40:18 PM
Must be speaking from the British, and some European view, on conservative people (or party). In America we can have quite many different layers of conservatism or liberalism. We also have liberal conservatives and even conservative liberals. Can't prejudge anyone person(or thing) by whatever label might be put on them, earned or not.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 27, 2013, 01:05:09 PM
Must be speaking from the British, and some European view, on conservative people (or party). In America we can have quite many different layers of conservatism or liberalism. We also have liberal conservatives and even conservative liberals. Can't prejudge anyone person(or thing) by whatever label might be put on them, earned or not.
so tell me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 27, 2013, 01:11:36 PM
39 years old

 have been married to a lovely woman for 9 years

 have 2 wonderful kids


love sports.....especially football

catholic

republican

love the west coast

enjoy cooler weather.... ie 60-70 degrees


some of my favorite movies: risky business...wall street.....full metal jacket....color of money.....mean streets......raging bull.....barfly......din er....north dallas 40


favorite food: steak and mashed potatoes


favorite drink: heineken

favorite vegetable: green beans

favorite music: jazz

favorite city: san francisco

favorite actors: eastwood....rourke....cr uise......deniro.....kei tel.....sharon stone......kim basinger.....alec baldwin

favorite nfl teams: kc chiefs/minnesota vikings

favorite baseball teams: cubs/dodgers

before i die want to visit: england, australia, new zealand, ireland, scotland and greece

favorite colors: black/gold


favorite dessert: cheese cake


just a few tid bits about me
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 27, 2013, 01:13:40 PM
Must be speaking from the British, and some European view, on conservative people (or party). In America we can have quite many different layers of conservatism or liberalism. We also have liberal conservatives and even conservative liberals. Can't prejudge anyone person(or thing) by whatever label might be put on them, earned or not.
tell me your opinion. i was in Celle Kreistag and you can phone stadt celle. Ask if i was a politician here(Donald Smith). So tell me your expert opinion jpm
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on April 27, 2013, 02:04:58 PM
Puzzling, very puzzling.......incoheren t...wondering what that last post had to do with anything about  being conservative or anything else.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 27, 2013, 02:14:48 PM
 8) ???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 27, 2013, 04:16:44 PM
someone who is very money orientated and very class structured.

Well hopefully this lets me off the hook. Politically speaking as a Democrat, I am mostly a liberal. While I think I am fairly conservative about spending money, I am no miser. For one thing, I don't have enough money to bother sitting around counting it all day or hoarding it either, although I do have savings and investment accounts. Sometimes I realize I am being prejudiced....and then I catch myself and remember my motto, which is to give people a reputation to live up to and not judge them for things I don't really know about or understand. I think I am a fairly classy person, but I am not stuck up at all. I have been known to cuss on the odd occasion.  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 28, 2013, 12:18:11 AM
I can't really put too much info out as I have a cyber stalker that authorities here are investigating. When they target my family and try to hurt and harm them I take this seriously. Anyway to contribute here's a few tid tads about myself. Age 43 star sign is Scorpio. Fav colour is green. Fav food is Italian and seafoods. I love experiencing foods from different cultures and countries but I must admit that I had the opportunity to try frogs legs in Zurich and I passed. Fav city is New York. I love travelling and I don't mind getting lost somewhere new as I see it as an adventure. I hate rain however I love the snow. No tattoos, I like nice skin and think ink ruins physiques. Places I want to experience and visit before I die are Vienna, Moskow, Odessa, Chicago, Africa and Du Bai.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 28, 2013, 01:42:08 AM
I can't really put too much info out as I have a cyber stalker that authorities here are investigating. When they target my family and try to hurt and harm them I take this seriously. Anyway to contribute here's a few tid tads about myself. Age 43 star sign is Scorpio. Fav colour is green. Fav food is Italian and seafoods. I love experiencing foods from different cultures and countries but I must admit that I had the opportunity to try frogs legs in Zurich and I passed. Fav city is New York. I love travelling and I don't mind getting lost somewhere new as I see it as an adventure. I hate rain however I love the snow. No tattoos, I like nice skin and think ink ruins physiques. Places I want to experience and visit before I die are Vienna, Moskow, Odessa, Chicago, Africa and Du Bai.
you are a nice woman karen and Frogs legs? think i would pass on that too... ;D I will cook you Haggis if we ever meet ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 28, 2013, 02:00:38 AM
Well hopefully this lets me off the hook. Politically speaking as a Democrat, I am mostly a liberal. While I think I am fairly conservative about spending money, I am no miser. For one thing, I don't have enough money to bother sitting around counting it all day or hoarding it either, although I do have savings and investment accounts. Sometimes I realize I am being prejudiced....and then I catch myself and remember my motto, which is to give people a reputation to live up to and not judge them for things I don't really know about or understand. I think I am a fairly classy person, but I am not stuck up at all. I have been known to cuss on the odd occasion.  ;)
Jay you are a fine fellow.. i do not dislike rich people because i know people who have worked hard and deserve what they have. I just find with wealth.. politics are not far behind. I train some wealthy people and they are always very nice to me. i will give an example of Conservative, double standards. We had a young couple come to us for help because of trouble with a landlord. they rented a house and had 2 small children. The nice rich old couple who owned the House had a disagreement and they cut the power off and heating in winter. Now these good Celle Conservatives CDU party are also bible Bashers and are in Church on sundays being good citizens but they really are not good Christians. we have a lawyer who works with us and so we made sure this nice old couple got some post and we took them to court. was good to see justice being served. I mean i have nothing against churches and religion as my wife is very religious and my Father in law has tried to convert me for years... ;D think iīm a lost cause Jay... but i think you get my point. regarding politics in the US i canīt say i understand it all. So maybe i can learn this from you Jay. Maybe one Day we will all meet who knows..eat a meal together. Jpm101 you are more than wellcome here, lets not try to stand on each others toes OK.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on April 28, 2013, 02:04:34 AM
you are a nice woman karen and Frogs legs? think i would pass on that too... ;D I will cook you Haggis if we ever meet ;)
Thanks Donny but I don't eat any red meat. I would run out of the room if haggis was served to me.  :-[
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 28, 2013, 02:15:40 AM
Thanks Donny but I don't eat any red meat. I would run out of the room if haggis was served to me.  :-[
he he...oh i like my meat... ;D remember as a kid doing caddy work at Glen Eagles golf course in Perthshire scotland and i was with some Japanese men. we were on the Golf course and a rabbit or hare ran over the course and i told the Japs..that is a wild haggis.. they really believed me that we have this strange wild animal called a Haggis. they kept saying to me "Haggis"..."Haggis"...i was well paid too and found the Japs to be very nice.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 28, 2013, 04:41:26 AM
thanks for sharing guys,,,,,back to buisness...yesterday i did some painting on the house to spruce it up painted shutters to match siding beige/front door brown in a nice chocolate brown,painted back door leading out to steps for backyard same color,,i have side entrance door as well i did that in fall in that brown ,,so i'm all matching lol,,stickler for asthetics on home ...went to gym for leg day very sore today :P..

did hack squats 1st this time warmed with 2 plates per side ,,,3 plates x12,4 plates x10/5 plates x10,,6 plates wanted 6 got 7....guy next to me said thats a lot of weight...
leg extensions x3 sets 12,,,220/235/250
leg press 3rd in line i was pumped by now big time ...4.5 plates x12,5 plates x10,6 plates x10
walking lunges 50 lb dbells,,,

hams
stiff legged dlifts dbell on small stand 60,70,75 nice stretch,
lying leg curls x3 140/150/155 stack 12/10/10

calved leg press and then toes pointing in standing calf raise

then came home grilled,2 glasses wine,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 28, 2013, 05:19:45 AM
thanks for sharing guys,,,,,back to buisness...yesterday i did some painting on the house to spruce it up painted shutters to match siding beige/front door brown in a nice chocolate brown,painted back door leading out to steps for backyard same color,,i have side entrance door as well i did that in fall in that brown ,,so i'm all matching lol,,stickler for asthetics on home ...went to gym for leg day very sore today :P..

did hack squats 1st this time warmed with 2 plates per side ,,,3 plates x12,4 plates x10/5 plates x10,,6 plates wanted 6 got 7....guy next to me said thats a lot of weight...
leg extensions x3 sets 12,,,220/235/250
leg press 3rd in line i was pumped by now big time ...4.5 plates x12,5 plates x10,6 plates x10
walking lunges 50 lb dbells,,,

hams
stiff legged dlifts dbell on small stand 60,70,75 nice stretch,
lying leg curls x3 140/150/155 stack 12/10/10

calved leg press and then toes pointing in standing calf raise

then came home grilled,2 glasses wine,,
nice steve..deserved your wine... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 28, 2013, 06:38:43 AM
donny i love training,,,i find something else different to shake it up every workout,,it all goes to the same place,,,not reiventing the wheel.did 15 pushups too this morning playing around couldn't do 1 month ago,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 28, 2013, 07:37:06 AM
donny i love training,,,i find something else different to shake it up every workout,,it all goes to the same place,,,not reiventing the wheel.did 15 pushups too this morning playing around couldn't do 1 month ago,,,,
just having a quite day today...itīs sunny so outside a bit. got myself some long sleeved t shirts yesterday a cheap pack of 4. wear it under my polo shirt in the Gym so i donīt need to wear my sweatshirt and sweat like a pig.. ;D cover the Tats... ::)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 28, 2013, 10:35:13 AM
Hmmm....my son just ordered 2 xl pizzas....oh well ... Pig out and work it off tomorrow... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 28, 2013, 02:01:33 PM
Jay you are a fine fellow.. i do not dislike rich people because i know people who have worked hard and deserve what they have. I just find with wealth.. politics are not far behind. I train some wealthy people and they are always very nice to me. i will give an example of Conservative, double standards. We had a young couple come to us for help because of trouble with a landlord. they rented a house and had 2 small children. The nice rich old couple who owned the House had a disagreement and they cut the power off and heating in winter. Now these good Celle Conservatives CDU party are also bible Bashers and are in Church on sundays being good citizens but they really are not good Christians. we have a lawyer who works with us and so we made sure this nice old couple got some post and we took them to court. was good to see justice being served. I mean i have nothing against churches and religion as my wife is very religious and my Father in law has tried to convert me for years... ;D think iīm a lost cause Jay... but i think you get my point. regarding politics in the US i canīt say i understand it all. So maybe i can learn this from you Jay. Maybe one Day we will all meet who knows..eat a meal together. Jpm101 you are more than wellcome here, lets not try to stand on each others toes OK.

I believe we have similar views about people. Just so you know, my wife and I are not rich in terms of financial wealth, but we do OK.

The "nice" old couple you wrote about deserved to be fined and perhaps even given some time in jail to think about what they did. It was not "nice" of them at all, in fact it was criminal.

I have some friends who purport to be "good Christians" whatever that means. Sometimes they seem to forget this quote from the bible: Luke 6:31 "Do to others as you would have them do to you." http://bible.cc/luke/6-31.htm (http://bible.cc/luke/6-31.htm)

Like you, I am not tied to any particular religion. My wife is Catholic. We were married in the Catholic church. Our children and grandchildren were baptized in the Catholic church. I never converted because I don't agree with some of the Catholic teachings. My wife is fine with this. Our daughter claims she is agnostic. Of all of our family, I suspect our son and his wife are the most devout Catholics, but then the Catholic church is about a block from their home in Uettingen.

It would be excellent if we could meet someday. Our son and his wife are celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary this summer in Uettingen. Unfortunately, we will not be attending the celebration, due to my wife's poor health. Otherwise, we could have met up this summer while we were in Germany.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 28, 2013, 02:26:15 PM
just having a quite day today...itīs sunny so outside a bit. got myself some long sleeved t shirts yesterday a cheap pack of 4. wear it under my polo shirt in the Gym so i donīt need to wear my sweatshirt and sweat like a pig.. ;D cover the Tats... ::)

Attitudes here seem to be changing when it comes to tattoos and piercings. It used to be that baristas at Starbucks had to cover their tattoos and any facial piercings. This appears to not be the case anymore. I don't understand why some folks still seem to have a problem with tattoos and piercings, it is just a way of expressing oneself as an individual. Of course some tattoos, such as those considered racist or gang related, are understandably offensive to some people.

If you were a trainer at Nautilus Plus in Oregon City, there would be no issue with you having full sleeve tattoos. Tattoos are quite commonplace at the gym among many of the patrons and some of the staff.

Like Karen, I am devoid of any tattoos. When I was young, getting tattooed had a very negative context. By the time tattoos became acceptable, I was past the point of wanting them, although there a some guys I know who are my age who have the occasional tattoo, most of them got them while they were in the military. I did not serve in the military.

Awhile ago, I saw some long sleeve T-shirts which were printed to look like tattoos. It would be funny if you could find one of these and wear it to cover your real tattoos. http://funcfash.com/2009/08/be-hardcore-with-tattoo-sleeves-and-shirts/ (http://funcfash.com/2009/08/be-hardcore-with-tattoo-sleeves-and-shirts/)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 28, 2013, 03:12:56 PM
nice,,i filled 2 barrels and 1 bag of fresh cut lawn,i use lawn doctor for those who use something similar in there area or country,,they basically weed and control with right chemicals your lawn to get green,maintain it,,,i cut it myself,,it looks like a thick green carpet minimal weed if any,,,it took me yrs to get it like this,,,i was very jealous of my neighbors ,,,now i have one of the best lawns...

I have been using the mulching feature on the new lawnmower I bought this spring. I think it has improved how the grass looks. The clippings fertilize the lawn each time I cut it, which is twice a week. Attached are some photos I took of the lawn the other day. As you will notice, my neighbor's lawns look good as well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 28, 2013, 07:08:03 PM
jay nice home/property...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 28, 2013, 08:45:41 PM
jay nice home/property...

Thanks. We often refer to our home and the other homes in the neighborhood as Brady Bunch houses because they were built in the late 70's. This is not considered a time of great architecture. Our home is no exception. There is a ton of wood in the structure though because much of the living spaces inside are not only open to each other, but with vaulted ceilings, some reaching 22 ft.

Since living here, we have made a number of improvements, like all new windows, appliances, raising the roof in the upstairs bedroom for more functional ceiling height, new furnace, having the backyard landscaped after removing about a dozen large trees which made it seem like we were living in a forest. Although we put in new wool wall to wall carpeting a dozen years ago, it is now worn and needs to be replaced. We would like to replace it with hardwood floors in the main living areas at least.

I need to repaint the exterior, but I cannot decide on a color combination. Although green is an OK color, I don't think it does much for our home.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 29, 2013, 05:38:17 AM
Thanks. We often refer to our home and the other homes in the neighborhood as Brady Bunch houses because they were built in the late 70's. This is not considered a time of great architecture. Our home is no exception. There is a ton of wood in the structure though because much of the living spaces inside are not only open to each other, but with vaulted ceilings, some reaching 22 ft.

Since living here, we have made a number of improvements, like all new windows, appliances, raising the roof in the upstairs bedroom for more functional ceiling height, new furnace, having the backyard landscaped after removing about a dozen large trees which made it seem like we were living in a forest. Although we put in new wool wall to wall carpeting a dozen years ago, it is now worn and needs to be replaced. We would like to replace it with hardwood floors in the main living areas at least.

I need to repaint the exterior, but I cannot decide on a color combination. Although green is an OK color, I don't think it does much for our home.
looks like Paradise Jay...and you have your peace there i think. nice vegetation and your Grass looks as smooth as a pool table... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 29, 2013, 05:42:57 AM
so training wise i got a workout in at home this morning. I wanted to train before work in the Gym but i never get peace and end up working... anyway i did some chest...

Flat Bench press 5x6-10
Flat DB flyes 4x10-12
Incline BB press 4x6-10

that was it and later i will try to get some triceps in there.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 29, 2013, 12:14:48 PM
looks like Paradise Jay...and you have your peace there i think. nice vegetation and your Grass looks as smooth as a pool table... ;D

Only problem is that the balls always roll down the street about six blocks and out onto the highway to be run over by a vehicle.  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 29, 2013, 07:42:45 PM
so everything progressing nicely chest still can't go full yet still some rom issues l/s ,,pump is back and fullness getting back...
 fdb press did 40's 15 ,,50/55 sets 8-10 better than 25 for zero,,,,
inc dbell same 50's
hammer press 2 45's per side x2 then added 10 lbs plate per side ok,,,,used to do 3 plates per side but getting there
pec deck good pump slow and squeeze
dips did 5 crooked reps l/s in that position weight on fr delt area makes it tough/weak/supersetted with 10-12 pushups big imrovement there could not get '1'pushup few wks ago,,,
amazing how fast u lose it and hard to get back...i guess its like money....

tris
dip machine stronger there,,,doing 190 on machine was doing 130 few wks ago
tricep extension machine x3
rope pushdowns x3
2 sets cable kickbacks

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 30, 2013, 04:15:22 AM
Only problem is that the balls always roll down the street about six blocks and out onto the highway to be run over by a vehicle.  :D
  ;D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 30, 2013, 04:19:18 AM
so everything progressing nicely chest still can't go full yet still some rom issues l/s ,,pump is back and fullness getting back...
 fdb press did 40's 15 ,,50/55 sets 8-10 better than 25 for zero,,,,
inc dbell same 50's
hammer press 2 45's per side x2 then added 10 lbs plate per side ok,,,,used to do 3 plates per side but getting there
pec deck good pump slow and squeeze
dips did 5 crooked reps l/s in that position weight on fr delt area makes it tough/weak/supersetted with 10-12 pushups big imrovement there could not get '1'pushup few wks ago,,,
amazing how fast u lose it and hard to get back...i guess its like money....

tris
dip machine stronger there,,,doing 190 on machine was doing 130 few wks ago
tricep extension machine x3
rope pushdowns x3
2 sets cable kickbacks

abs
you are getting better all the time.. i did some machine dips and v bar tricep press downs at work last night. Today i did back and Biceps...

Sternum chins 4x max
BB rows 4x6-10
Deadlifts 5x10

BB curls 3x8-10
seated concentration curls(DB) 3x10

will do some machine curls later... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 30, 2013, 04:54:21 AM
you are getting better all the time.. i did some machine dips and v bar tricep press downs at work last night. Today i did back and Biceps...

Sternum chins 4x max
BB rows 4x6-10
Deadlifts 5x10

BB curls 3x8-10
seated concentration curls(DB) 3x10

will do some machine curls later... ;D
THANKS JUST DBELL PRESS CHEST ONLY I COULD SHOULDER PRESS OK WEIRD,,,50'S OK I GUESS I WANT TO GET AT LEAST 60/70 SOON . 80/90'S TO ME ARE LIKE THIS.................... ...........NEVER!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 30, 2013, 01:07:23 PM
Yesterday, I decided to start back with my old routine of working one muscle group per day, so here goes:

Monday:

Seated alternate dumbbell curls, 4X10-6
Triceps cable pushdown, 4X10-8
Easy curl bar cable curls 3X10-6
Triceps overhead press 3X10-6
Multi-bicep machine 3X12-8
Triceps press-down (mimics dips) 3X12-8
Wrist curls 3X15-10
Reverse easy curl bar cable curls 3X10-6

No cardio this week. I did tan though after the workout. My arms are sore, but not too sore.


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 30, 2013, 01:20:14 PM
Yesterday, I decided to start back with my old routine of working one muscle group per day, so here goes:

Monday:

Seated alternate dumbbell curls, 4X10-6
Triceps cable pushdown, 4X10-8
Easy curl bar cable curls 3X10-6
Triceps overhead press 3X10-6
Multi-bicep machine 3X12-8
Triceps press-down (mimics dips) 3X12-8
Wrist curls 3X15-10
Reverse easy curl bar cable curls 3X10-6

No cardio this week. I did tan though after the workout. My arms are sore, but not too sore.



COOL JAY,,GO FOR IT MAN,,,GET INTO ROUTINE.LOCK IN,BE ACTIVE/HEALTHY,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 30, 2013, 01:34:20 PM
Yeah ...go for it Jay looking good  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on April 30, 2013, 02:56:53 PM
PrimeMuscle:  Congrats on your renewed efforts.

Not a dis by any means:  Just might suggest that doing 26 total sets for arm work may prove to be counterproductive in the long (or even short) run. Even for most young guy's in their 20's, this might prove to be way too much...even at once a week. But as a  68 year old man, perhaps enthusiasm  has overtaken a practical approach to  common  sense training.

Dropping 18 to 20 sets, from a arm program like that, may produce better results. But if you find a arm program like that rewarding for you, and you do know your own body better than most, than good for you. Good Luck.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 30, 2013, 05:38:38 PM
PrimeMuscle:  Congrats on your renewed efforts.

Not a dis by any means:  Just might suggest that doing 26 total sets for arm work may prove to be counterproductive in the long (or even short) run. Even for most young guy's in their 20's, this might prove to be way too much...even at once a week. But as a  68 year old man, perhaps enthusiasm  has overtaken a practical approach to  common  sense training.

Dropping 18 to 20 sets, from a arm program like that, may produce better results. But if you find a arm program like that rewarding for you, and you do know your own body better than most, than good for you. Good Luck.

You could be right, however I have done this routine in the past (when I was over 65) and had pretty good success with it. One thing I did not make clear is all the exercises as listed included 1 or 2 warm-up sets and then at least 2 work sets. Another thing is that I won't directly work arms again for a week. The idea here is to allow plenty of recuperation time, which is meant to address sometimes slower recuperation in older folks.

We'll see how my arms feel tomorrow. Right now they have that "good" sore feeling and not the "oops I did too much" pain.

I worked hamstrings and calves today. I will post the workout separately.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 30, 2013, 05:49:03 PM
Tuesday: Hamstring and Calves

Lying leg curls 4X10-6
Standing calf raises 4X8-15
Seated leg curls 3X8-6
Leg Press machine calf raises 3X15-12
Reverse hack squats 3X8-4
Seated calf raises 3X15-12
Hip abduction 3X15-10
Hip adduction 3X15-10

Workout took 45 minutes on the button. No cardio yet....maybe next week.

The rest time between sets is supposed to be 2 minutes. Usually, I can't wait that long. I think the only time I went the full 2 minutes was on the reverse hack squats because I was using a fair amount of weight. My ass needs a good workout because it is looking flat.  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 30, 2013, 07:25:44 PM
Tuesday: Hamstring and Calves

Lying leg curls 4X10-6
Standing calf raises 4X8-15
Seated leg curls 3X8-6
Leg Press machine calf raises 3X15-12
Reverse hack squats 3X8-4
Seated calf raises 3X15-12
Hip abduction 3X15-10
Hip adduction 3X15-10

Workout took 45 minutes on the button. No cardio yet....maybe next week.

The rest time between sets is supposed to be 2 minutes. Usually, I can't wait that long. I think the only time I went the full 2 minutes was on the reverse hack squats because I was using a fair amount of weight. My ass needs a good workout because it is looking flat.  ;)
nice u trying to catch me on legs jay,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 30, 2013, 07:39:34 PM
back..
chins,,x3 10/10/8 still alittle stiff on these..usually 12/15 smooth,,right now i have to muscle them up..
reverse hammer pulldowns x3 worked up to 2 45's per side
low pully cable row x3 165/180/195 on stack
t bar row x3 2 plates,2.5 plates,last set 2.5 plus 10
standup pulldown stretch and pull to waist slight bent at waist x3

weighted hypers x3

bis
superset curls with seated db curls x3
seated scot curl maching x3
seated db curls concentration curls

abs 4 set 30 reps per set crunches legs elevated on bench back on floor..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 30, 2013, 09:18:03 PM
nice u trying to catch me on legs jay,,,,

Not to worry, I have a long ways to go to catch up with you. Your legs are amazing, like in my dream legs. Everyone has a favorite body part, for me it has always been legs. I think men with big quads are so masculine looking (no homo). I think when you have muscular legs you walk differently. I want to walk like that.

This is only half of my leg routine on this program. I will be working quads plus calves for the second time on Saturday. I want to flash some 27" quads again, sometime before I die of old age.

I'll post tomorrow's back workout once I have completed it.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 30, 2013, 09:21:53 PM
back..
chins,,x3 10/10/8 still alittle stiff on these..usually 12/15 smooth,,right now i have to muscle them up..
reverse hammer pulldowns x3 worked up to 2 45's per side
low pully cable row x3 165/180/195 on stack
t bar row x3 2 plates,2.5 plates,last set 2.5 plus 10
standup pulldown stretch and pull to waist slight bent at waist x3

weighted hypers x3

bis
superset curls with seated db curls x3
seated scot curl maching x3
seated db curls concentration curls

abs 4 set 30 reps per set crunches legs elevated on bench back on floor..

Do you have any thoughts about whether it is better to do concentration curls the old fashioned way or using a concentration curl machine?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 30, 2013, 10:33:54 PM
PrimeMuscle:  Congrats   your renewed efforts.

Not a dis by any means:  Just might suggest that doing 26 total sets for arm work may prove to be counterproductive in the long (or even short) run. Even for most young guy's in their 20's, this might prove to be way too much...even at once a week. But as a  68 year old man, perhaps enthusiasm  has overtaken a practical approach to  ::) common  sense training.

Dropping 18 to 20 sets, from a arm program like that, may produce better results. But if you find a arm program like that rewarding for you, and you do know your own body better than most, than good for you. Good Luck.
oddly enough advice from a guy who says he teaches seniors one arm chins for golf ...very strange indeed..who also never trains arms himself but thinks his power rack basic workout is the only way to train ...like he wrote "common  sense training" indeed... ::)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 30, 2013, 10:38:57 PM
jay has trained for more years than most here and knows his own body....I like the concentration curl machine jay ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 30, 2013, 11:36:54 PM
jay has trained for more years than most here and knows his own body....I like the concentration curl machine jay ...

I am with you on this. Sometimes machines help us to do the movement strictly. When I use my inner knees as a fulcrum, I tend to be distracted by the pressure on my knees rather than the movement. This is not an issue with the concentration curl machine, since knees aren't involved.

I just cheated on my diet and ate a few potato chips, which I did share with the pups. Think I will now consume a protein drink and hit the hay.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 30, 2013, 11:40:04 PM
back..
chins,,x3 10/10/8 still alittle stiff on these..usually 12/15 smooth,,right now i have to muscle them up..
reverse hammer pulldowns x3 worked up to 2 45's per side
low pully cable row x3 165/180/195 on stack
t bar row x3 2 plates,2.5 plates,last set 2.5 plus 10
standup pulldown stretch and pull to waist slight bent at waist x3

weighted hypers x3

bis
superset curls with seated db curls x3
seated scot curl maching x3
seated db curls concentration curls

abs 4 set 30 reps per set crunches legs elevated on bench back on floor..

I particularly enjoy weighted hyperextensions. I use a 25 lb. plate held behind my head when I do them. BTW, what is a scot curl?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 01, 2013, 01:57:01 AM
I think  what you call a concentration curl on a machine, steve means a Scott Curl. I use either a machine or a bench with a bar/dumbbells but can use a low pulley too. scott curls are usually seated but can be standing and your upper arms are immobilized to train your biceps and people say the lower bicep area although not really true because some people have a gap there which is genetics(like me, but i have high biceps but short)


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 01, 2013, 05:56:38 AM
I think  what you call a concentration curl on a machine, steve means a Scott Curl. I use either a machine or a bench with a bar/dumbbells but can use a low pulley too. scott curls are usually seated but can be standing and your upper arms are immobilized to train your biceps and people say the lower bicep area although not really true because some people have a gap there which is genetics(like me, but i have high biceps but short)



100 PCT TRUE  DONNY ITS A MACHINE VERSION WITH A STACK....GENETICS ARE GENETICS I HAVE SHORTER TYPE ARM BELLIE ON BI'S BUT THAT GIVES A BETTER PEAK NATURALLY.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 01, 2013, 05:57:31 AM
I particularly enjoy weighted hyperextensions. I use a 25 lb. plate held behind my head when I do them. BTW, what is a scot curl?
I USE A 45 AND EITHER I HUG THE PLATE OR HANG IT DOWN HOLDING IT ON EACH SIDE...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 01, 2013, 07:52:29 AM
arms this eve:

kneeling cable extensions   3 sets


machine dips    3 sets


lying db extensions  3 sets


standing ez bar curls   4 sets

hammer curls     4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on May 01, 2013, 08:30:55 AM
Hmmmm...guess the little guy is upsets with me...again.

Of course I never said anything close to training senior citizens, on the one arm chin, for golf. Why the lie's all the time? Anyone is free to read any of my past post (years now) to see the many, many options suggested for training. Might also run through some of the crude and pretty nasty stuff the little guy has said to others. Seems obsessed with other men sucking his little pecker, and suggest that quite a lot.

I don't do direct arm work because I don't have to,. they respond well enough. To me, direct arm work is the most boring thing I could ever do.  But that's just me, anyone enjoys the need  to do  arms, than good for them.

Now I ready myself for the many PM's I'll be getting from the little guy. Main theme will be his punching me in the face (while standing on a ladder?) and his homosexual offer for me to suck his little pecker. Good Luck with that.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 01, 2013, 08:48:56 AM
Hmmmm...guess the little guy is upsets with me...again.

Of course I never said anything close to training senior citizens, on the one arm chin, for golf. Why the lie's all the time? Anyone is free to read any of my past post (years now) to see the many, many options suggested for training. Might also run through some of the crude and pretty nasty stuff the little guy has said to others. Seems obsessed with other men sucking his little pecker, and suggest that quite a lot.

I don't do direct arm work because I don't have to,. they respond well enough. To me, direct arm work is the most boring thing I could ever do.  But that's just me, anyone enjoys the need  to do  arms, than good for them.

Now I ready myself for the many PM's I'll be getting from the little guy. Main theme will be his punching me in the face (while standing on a ladder?) and his homosexual offer for me to suck his little pecker. Good Luck with that.
first of all you did write you trained seniors with one arm chins for golf..do not talk BS. see some of us work in gyms here and know you are a fool..but this little guy would love to punch you this is true. regards to pmīs i do not write to you. I wrote youīre a tool and you are a tool. think you are hard with your hand made tattoo? the more you write the more i think you are a ball bag. Now you come on this thread and just write arrogant posts and this is not just my opinion. Go and write to Ronald and send him my posts. Infact just piss off you are a waste of space.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on May 01, 2013, 10:13:29 AM
Dear little person,

Produce the thread that I endorsed the one arm chin for senior golfers. Seems one arm chins bring out the envy in you, of others. Some women can do one arm chins, so what's the big deal?

Why lie, you have PM'ed many times, all very negative with the usual subject of violence and preforming homosexual acts.  What's with the tat's thing, it's just what my culture does.

Don't know who Ronald is, one of the many people you swore at, and were arrogant with, in the past? It's all on record, from the beginning of your first post to the present.

                                         Good Luck
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 01, 2013, 10:25:03 AM
Dear little person,

Produce the thread that I endorsed the one arm chin for senior golfers. Seems one arm chins bring out the envy in you, of others. Some women can do one arm chins, so what's the big deal?

Why lie, you have PM'ed many times, all very negative with the usual subject of violence and preforming homosexual acts.  What's with the tat's thing, it's just what my culture does.

Don't know who Ronald is, one of the many people you swore at, and were arrogant with, in the past? It's all on record, from the beginning of your first post to the present.

                                         Good Luck
like I wrote you are a tool ...go away and play  on another thread.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 01, 2013, 01:57:29 PM
Jpm you are being passive aggressive towards Donny. This is a peaceful thread and we are a tight knit group. If you are here to shit stir and provoke Donny I suggest you leave. We won't take this bullshit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 01, 2013, 01:58:30 PM
Jpm you are being passive aggressive towards Donny. This is a peaceful thread and we are a tight knit group. If you are here to shit stir and provoke Donny I suggest you leave. We won't take this bullshit.
8)...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 01, 2013, 02:33:50 PM
100 PCT TRUE  DONNY ITS A MACHINE VERSION WITH A STACK....GENETICS ARE GENETICS I HAVE SHORTER TYPE ARM BELLIE ON BI'S BUT THAT GIVES A BETTER PEAK NATURALLY.

This is exactly right. The machine is similar to the one in the middle video. I'll call these Scott curls or Preacher curls in the future. The Nautilus multi-bicep machine also uses the same principal only the upper arms rest on a pad which is parallel to the floor as opposed to slanted. I switch back and forth between these machines. I just don't do them using dumbbells while resting my elbows on my knees because I find this uncomfortable. Probably due to my boney elbows.  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 01, 2013, 02:53:52 PM
Hmmmm...guess the little guy is upsets with me...again.

Of course I never said anything close to training senior citizens, on the one arm chin, for golf. Why the lie's all the time? Anyone is free to read any of my past post (years now) to see the many, many options suggested for training. Might also run through some of the crude and pretty nasty stuff the little guy has said to others. Seems obsessed with other men sucking his little pecker, and suggest that quite a lot.

I don't do direct arm work because I don't have to,. they respond well enough. To me, direct arm work is the most boring thing I could ever do.  But that's just me, anyone enjoys the need  to do  arms, than good for them.

Now I ready myself for the many PM's I'll be getting from the little guy. Main theme will be his punching me in the face (while standing on a ladder?) and his homosexual offer for me to suck his little pecker. Good Luck with that.

A little hot tempered, are we? Perhaps you haven't noticed that unlike other threads on Getbig, most of us avoid resorting to the kinds of remarks you've made in the post I've quoted. In the future, if you have a beef with someone, which makes you want to flex your verbal muscle, you should do it using PM's.

I took your suggestions as just that, suggestions. I wasn't offended by them at all. In fact, I sometimes do get carried away with overtraining. It is interesting that you don't like working arms directly. My arms have been problematical in the past, in that they are slow to respond to weight training as compared to other muscle groups on me. Presently they are probably about 16" which is nothing to brag about. The biggest they've ever been is 17 1/4" which is also nothing to brag about. I have really long arms (like a Gorilla) which results in having a long bicep belly with low insertions. I suspect this affects how much peak I can build.

It would be really appreciated, at least by me, if you kept disagreements, which result in your ranting about people's sexuality and such, private or save them for the hundreds of other forums where that nonsense is the norm.  No offense intended and I hope none will be taken.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 01, 2013, 06:14:46 PM
Wednesday: back

Front lat pulldown 4X12-8
Incline bench row machine 3X8-6
Low cable row 2X6-4
Reverse grip pulldown 2X6-4
One arm dumbbell rows 2X6-4

Time 30 minutes. The weight range is normally fairly heavy, except that this being the first time back doing this routine I have pretty much cut the weight load in half on many exercises. I expect to start jumping it back up fairly quickly.

This is a pretty easy day. The only exercises with warm-up sets are the first two. I don't exactly have "bat wings" yet. Any suggestions are welcome?

Took this photo in the locker room today. I don't think I look like I weigh 208 lbs. It must be those giant "love handles" ha, ha! This is about as naked as I plan to get until I think I look a little better. This is definitely a "before" photo. Like some say on Getbig, "Do you even workout?"

You'll notice that I am wired for sound and not particularly photogenic.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 01, 2013, 06:54:27 PM
Wednesday: back

Front lat pulldown 4X12-8
Incline bench row machine 3X8-6
Low cable row 2X6-4
Reverse grip pulldown 2X6-4
One arm dumbbell rows 2X6-4

Time 30 minutes. The weight range is normally fairly heavy, except that this being the first time back doing this routine I have pretty much cut the weight load in half on many exercises. I expect to start jumping it back up fairly quickly.

This is a pretty easy day. The only exercises with warm-up sets are the first two. I don't exactly have "bat wings" yet. Any suggestions are welcome?

Took this photo in the locker room today. I don't think I look like I weigh 208 lbs. It must be those giant "love handles" ha, ha! This is about as naked as I plan to get until I think I look a little better. This is definitely a "before" photo. Like some say on Getbig, "Do you even workout?"

You'll notice that I am wired for sound and not particularly photogenic.
hey jay u actualy have good torso to build on,and actually for your age u haven't spread like u think u did,a bit of arms yeah would be good,,i do chins to warmup  3x 12/15 bodyweight ,,great pump to start back day,,,

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 01, 2013, 07:17:55 PM
trying to master the 'david pose'got my arm in more see bicep..better light too lol...jay i want same pose soon.....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 01, 2013, 08:08:01 PM
trying to master the 'david pose'got my arm in more see bicep..better light too lol...jay i want same pose soon.....

Maybe with a tent over my body.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 01, 2013, 08:31:03 PM
Maybe with a tent over my body.
counting on ya,,,keep it going i think you are going into good run,,train hard ,,,stallone is good inspiration,,60 plus ,,i know he's on a lot of stuff,,i admire his dedication to physical peak through the decades,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 01, 2013, 08:39:07 PM
counting on ya,,,keep it going i think you are going into good run,,train hard ,,,stallone is good inspiration,,60 plus ,,i know he's on a lot of stuff,,i admire his dedication to physical peak through the decades,,,

Genetics plays a huge roll in how we look as we age. I am in the last decades of my life, I don't expect to look like a young buck with muscles at this point. I am perfectly happy looking healthy and reasonably fit. More importantly, I really enjoy that I am in great health for someone my age. I'll keep working out as long as it makes me feel good.

Unlike Stallone, I have no plans to do this by using a shitload of PED's. The comparatively low dose of testosterone cypionate that I inject every two weeks, will never be enough to make much of a difference. The main change from these shots is feeling less tired all the time. I am surprised that it took as long to kick in as it did, but I feel 100% better than I did a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 02, 2013, 12:44:16 AM
Jpm you are being passive aggressive towards Donny. This is a peaceful thread and we are a tight knit group. If you are here to shit stir and provoke Donny I suggest you leave. We won't take this bullshit.
Thank you Karen..just ignore him..heīll maybe go away and play in the park with his toys.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 02, 2013, 12:46:49 AM
Wednesday: back

Front lat pulldown 4X12-8
Incline bench row machine 3X8-6
Low cable row 2X6-4
Reverse grip pulldown 2X6-4
One arm dumbbell rows 2X6-4

Time 30 minutes. The weight range is normally fairly heavy, except that this being the first time back doing this routine I have pretty much cut the weight load in half on many exercises. I expect to start jumping it back up fairly quickly.

This is a pretty easy day. The only exercises with warm-up sets are the first two. I don't exactly have "bat wings" yet. Any suggestions are welcome?

Took this photo in the locker room today. I don't think I look like I weigh 208 lbs. It must be those giant "love handles" ha, ha! This is about as naked as I plan to get until I think I look a little better. This is definitely a "before" photo. Like some say on Getbig, "Do you even workout?"

You'll notice that I am wired for sound and not particularly photogenic.
great workout and you look good Jay. never too old to improve and your choice of exercises are very intelligent.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 02, 2013, 12:53:40 AM
well i will do some shoulders today..

Smith machine front press 4-5 x 8-10
Machine side delt raises(i have grown to like this machine)4x12
Rear Delt machine(butterfly machine but can do seated rear delts too) 4x12

Abs: Machine crunch 3x15-20 and Hanging knee raises from chinning bar 3x20

Cardio: running machine interval programme 30 mins.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 02, 2013, 12:57:58 AM
Thank you Karen..just ignore him..heīll maybe go away and play in the park with his toys.
I have a spare pacifier ( dummy for Aussies ) if he wants it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 02, 2013, 02:06:38 AM
I have a spare pacifier ( dummy for Aussies ) if he wants it.
  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 02, 2013, 04:44:32 AM
well i will do some shoulders today..

Smith machine front press 4-5 x 8-10
Machine side delt raises(i have grown to like this machine)4x12
Rear Delt machine(butterfly machine but can do seated rear delts too) 4x12

Abs: Machine crunch 3x15-20 and Hanging knee raises from chinning bar 3x20

Cardio: running machine interval programme 30 mins.
Donny I do smith front press all the time ,,very comfortable,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on May 02, 2013, 08:47:51 AM
PrimeMuscle:

Duly noted. But I'm quite laid back in the real physical world. And as you may note, no CAP'S (needing attention, showing anger...rather rude actually) in any of my postings. Never going to the extreme of coming unglued with something on a site like GB. Very few people, who post here, are who they really claim they are. Just role playing for them. Some very lonely souls out there.

Donald Smith and I got along very well in the past. He once posted that I should write a book about training (in a serious vein....no sarcasm was  intended). Not sure what went wrong along the way, but around October/November, of last year, seemed to be a turning point. I suggested the advantage of raising the heels when squatting, also including the one arm negative chin in a workout..if one wished to try those out.  Than wham-O, got the somewhat abusive post and PM's from Donald Smith. Still don't know the reason behind all of that.  His persona had changed with other GB members, also. Donald Smith also took exception the "Good Luck" at the end of most of my post, even complaining to the Mods about that. (I have friends in high places within GB)

All this seems to have leaked over to the Mature site...truly sorry for the interruptions. But the lie's and miss statements about me really need to be addressed. Wish to believe me or not, that is anyone's choice. Hopefully Donald Smith and I can come to a agreement to disagree and not take it to a abusive level.      

 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 02, 2013, 09:41:51 AM
PrimeMuscle:

Duly noted. But I'm quite laid back in the real physical world. And as you may note, no CAP'S (needing attention, showing anger...rather rude actually) in any of my postings. Never going to the extreme of coming unglued with something on a site like GB. Very few people, who post here, are who they really claim they are. Just role playing for them. Some very lonely souls out there.

Donald Smith and I got along very well in the past. He once posted that I should write a book about training (in a serious vein....no sarcasm was  intended). Not sure what went wrong along the way, but around October/November, of last year, seemed to be a turning point. I suggested the advantage of raising the heels when squatting, also including the one arm negative chin in a workout..if one wished to try those out.  Than wham-O, got the somewhat abusive post and PM's from Donald Smith. Still don't know the reason behind all of that.  His persona had changed with other GB members, also. Donald Smith also took exception the "Good Luck" at the end of most of my post, even complaining to the Mods about that. (I have friends in high places within GB)

All this seems to have leaked over to the Mature site...truly sorry for the interruptions. But the lie's and miss statements about me really need to be addressed. Wish to believe me or not, that is anyone's choice. Hopefully Donald Smith and I can come to a agreement to disagree and not take it to a abusive level.      

 
what a load of crap. I never said you should write a book and i never complained about you writing "GOOD LUCK".. i wrote to you and said you are a tool and need a smack. you then wrote sexual comments to me. saying i was Homosexual. you are arrogant and an asshole simple as that. now i do not like you and do not want to see you write my name. I say who i am and unlike you am not false. Jay and Karen write to me on Facebook. you are a shit stirring little toad. you have had run ins with other people and not just me .. yev33 and oldtimer1 and more... see you are like i wrote arrogant... or are other people wrong too? face the facts, you are not a likeable person. you have friends in high places here? who are you? just a clown. make yourself just sound like a fool.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 02, 2013, 09:49:38 AM
Donny I do smith front press all the time ,,very comfortable,,,
well i really just started getting into them after a pm with George(wild willie). makes a nice change. Squats are not bad too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 02, 2013, 08:16:13 PM
delts
supersetted tonite

dbpresses with rear laterals bent over sitting on bench ,,struggled with sets 45's lol used to 60/70 ok slowly getting it,,it seems single arm pressing is whats taking time...no pain tho great pump to start 3x around
side laterals with upright rows x3
arnold twist db press with fr raises hammer grip straight up x3
db shrugs x3 set 15/20.. 70/80/85's
2x sets 20 shrug to front i use hammer  lying chest press for this handles are in front of u stand between lying pad portion ,,,works well..
 
calves sets  3 toe positions 24 rep sets x3

forearms

few pics regaining form...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 02, 2013, 08:23:54 PM
delts
supersetted tonite

dbpresses with rear laterals bent over sitting on bench ,,struggled with sets 45's lol used to 60/70 ok slowly getting it,,it seems single arm pressing is whats taking time...no pain tho great pump to start 3x around
side laterals with upright rows x3
arnold twist db press with fr raises hammer grip straight up x3
db shrugs x3 set 15/20.. 70/80/85's
2x sets 20 shrug to front i use hammer  lying chest press for this handles are in front of u stand between lying pad portion ,,,works well..
 
calves sets  3 toe positions 24 rep sets x3

forearms

few pics regaining form...
nice work ...you're doing more than I do ....lol ..getting back in there and supersets are great intensity in themselves
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 02, 2013, 08:26:56 PM
nice work ...you're doing more than I do ....lol ..getting back in there and supersets are great intensity in themselves
i like delt training,,,,superset wise i don't get pump doing traditional set add weight ,,rest,,,next set,,i superset and do same weight i use on heavy type day training weird,,,delts for me need pumping,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 02, 2013, 09:09:07 PM
PrimeMuscle:

Duly noted. But I'm quite laid back in the real physical world. And as you may note, no CAP'S (needing attention, showing anger...rather rude actually) in any of my postings. Never going to the extreme of coming unglued with something on a site like GB. Very few people, who post here, are who they really claim they are. Just role playing for them. Some very lonely souls out there.

Donald Smith and I got along very well in the past. He once posted that I should write a book about training (in a serious vein....no sarcasm was  intended). Not sure what went wrong along the way, but around October/November, of last year, seemed to be a turning point. I suggested the advantage of raising the heels when squatting, also including the one arm negative chin in a workout..if one wished to try those out.  Than wham-O, got the somewhat abusive post and PM's from Donald Smith. Still don't know the reason behind all of that.  His persona had changed with other GB members, also. Donald Smith also took exception the "Good Luck" at the end of most of my post, even complaining to the Mods about that. (I have friends in high places within GB)

All this seems to have leaked over to the Mature site...truly sorry for the interruptions. But the lie's and miss statements about me really need to be addressed. Wish to believe me or not, that is anyone's choice. Hopefully Donald Smith and I can come to a agreement to disagree and not take it to a abusive level.      

 

Thanks for the explanation, however I would really like to stay out of whatever went wrong between you two. It is none of my business.

Like I said before, I appreciate your feedback just as I do suggestions from the other folks here. Speaking of that, while my arms did fine in terms of soreness, I over worked my calves last Tuesday. They didn't bother me much yesterday, but today I could hardly walk. Funny, I went really light on the weight, which is what I have been doing with all these exercises until I get back into the swing of things.  I'll post today's work out later. I am going to go plop in front of the television with my wife for awhile now. I have been going all day and I am tired.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 02, 2013, 11:51:20 PM
Thursday: shoulders and abs

Worked out late 6:00 p.m. to 6:45 p.m. because I had a zillion things to do today. I am proud of myself for still going even though the time was out of sync for me. My preferred workout time is between 2:00 and 4:00 p.m.

Seated overhead press 4X10-4
Lateral raises on Nautilus 3X8-4
Bent over lateral raises 3X8-4
Shrugs 3X8-4
Upright rows using cable 3X8-4
Ab Coaster 3X15 (I set in each of the three positions)
Crunches on Nautilus 2X25-20
Roman Chair hyperextensions 2X15-10

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2013, 12:50:35 AM
does the ab coaster work well ? Never seen it used here. Only ever seen a cheaper version being sold but  we do not have that in the gym.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2013, 01:42:52 AM
i like delt training,,,,superset wise i don't get pump doing traditional set add weight ,,rest,,,next set,,i superset and do same weight i use on heavy type day training weird,,,delts for me need pumping,,,
yes i agree.. love doing laterals and presses superset style.. really is about pumpin up the delts and supersets/trisets are king. shoulders donīt need massive weights to grow as they are worked hard on upper body days anyway with benches,dips,rows....etc..etc. I am a bit more careful now after the Bursitus i had. no more presses behind neck,chins,pulldowns behind neck. Going to blast my quads and hams today at work...no time now.. my plan is::
smith machine squats 4 sets
seated leg press 3-4 sets
seated leg curls 3 sets
leg extensions 3 sets
calf raises 4-5 sets

i will also eventually work some Adduction and Abduction in the routine...but not today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 03, 2013, 06:49:59 AM
yes i agree.. love doing laterals and presses superset style.. really is about pumpin up the delts and supersets/trisets are king. shoulders donīt need massive weights to grow as they are worked hard on upper body days anyway with benches,dips,rows....etc..etc. I am a bit more careful now after the Bursitus i had. no more presses behind neck,chins,pulldowns behind neck. Going to blast my quads and hams today at work...no time now.. my plan is::
smith machine squats 4 sets
seated leg press 3-4 sets
seated leg curls 3 sets
leg extensions 3 sets
calf raises 4-5 sets

i will also eventually work some Adduction and Abduction in the routine...but not today.
NICE DONNY ONLY THING I DO EXTRA IS THE LUNGES LOVE THEM,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on May 03, 2013, 08:14:00 AM


http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=453485.msg6547362#msg65473

Hmmmmm...seems the other ones have been deleted. But this one can't be, so leaving it up. Fear and lies tend to lead to cowardly actions...no doubt.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2013, 08:30:53 AM
NICE DONNY ONLY THING I DO EXTRA IS THE LUNGES LOVE THEM,,,
i did some today funny enough.. i was showing a woman some good exercises for the tight bum look.. so i did a few sets too with Dumbbells...they kill me but your way is hardcore .. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 03, 2013, 08:51:20 AM
does the ab coaster work well ? Never seen it used here. Only ever seen a cheaper version being sold but  we do not have that in the gym.

I really like it for lower abs. It is really comfortable to use. If you keep your abs tensed, you feel it right away. Normally, I do these 3X25240lbs added weight. My gym has two of them. I actually like the older model better then the new one because the older model has the curved track like the one in the photo. The newer on pivots from the sides and is quitter. Of course one can always substitute leg raises using the parallel bars and doing either knee raises or leg raises.

I swear my lower abs already look tighter this morning.  Soon I will get up the courage to take a snap shot of me with my shirt off, battle scars and all. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2013, 08:54:44 AM
I really like it for lower abs. It is really comfortable to use. If you keep your abs tensed, you feel it right away. Normally, I do these 3X25240lbs added weight. My gym has two of them. I actually like the older model better then the new one because the older model has the curved track like the one in the photo. The newer on pivots from the sides and is quitter. Of course one can always substitute leg raises using the parallel bars and doing either knee raises or leg raises.

I swear my lower abs already look tighter this morning.  Soon I will get up the courage to take a snap shot of me with my shirt off, battle scars and all. ;D
Jay you look in great shape..some seniors i have trained are not such good shape as you.. i do hanging knee raises and like them but the machine looks good.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 03, 2013, 08:59:04 AM
Jay you look in great shape..some seniors i have trained are not such good shape as you.. i do hanging knee raises and like them but the machine looks good.

I've done those too. They're a killer workout for abs and like with an Ab Coaster you can change your leg position hitting the side abs and oblique's as well. The straps are a bit uncomfortable though after awhile.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2013, 09:07:34 AM
I've done those too. They're a killer workout for abs and like with a Ab Coaster you can change your leg position hitting the side abs and oblique's as well. The straps are a bit uncomfortable though after awhile.
donīt laugh but i got this some years ago as a video .. great ab workouts
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2013, 09:09:07 AM
sadly i believe scott helvenston was killed in Irak..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 03, 2013, 09:10:48 AM
ANOTHER TRICK I DO HANGING LEG RAISES ARE AWESOME BUT I TEND TO SWING SO WHAT I DO IS ON THE WEIGHT ASSISTED
DIP MACHINE I PUT PAD UP REVERSE BODY AND REST LOWER BACK UPPER GLUTE ON PAD EDGE AND THEN RAISE LEGS LIKE NORMAL AND I DON'T SWING AT ALL,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2013, 09:13:37 AM
ANOTHER TRICK I DO HANGING LEG RAISES ARE AWESOME BUT I TEND TO SWING SO WHAT I DO IS ON THE WEIGHT ASSISTED
DIP MACHINE I PUT PAD UP REVERSE BODY AND REST LOWER BACK UPPER GLUTE ON PAD EDGE AND THEN RAISE LEGS LIKE NORMAL AND I DON'T SWING AT ALL,,,
never thought of that... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 03, 2013, 09:14:55 AM
last night i worked back:


techno gym machine pulldowns  4 sets

hammer strength reverse grip rows  3 sets

stiff arm rope pulldowns   3 sets

one arm rows (using the t bar row apparatus)  3 sets

one arm cable rows  3 sets

hyperextensions 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2013, 09:18:04 AM
last night i worked back:


techno gym machine pulldowns  4 sets

hammer strength reverse grip rows  3 sets

stiff arm rope pulldowns   3 sets

one arm rows (using the t bar row apparatus)  3 sets

one arm cable rows  3 sets

hyperextensions 3 sets
George is there... ;D nice workout..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 03, 2013, 09:22:52 AM
George is there... ;D nice workout..
GEORGE I HAVEN'T USED THAT TBAR TRICK IN YRS AND I USE IT NORMALLY AND ALWAYS SAY MAYBE I'LL USE IT THE OLD SKOOL WAY SINGLE ARM HOLDING THE FRONT..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 03, 2013, 10:32:35 AM
I trained at the first Nautilus facility in Deland Florida, Arthur was not there Ellington Darden was running the place but a asshole I didn't like him. I did get to see all the crocs out back and they grew chickens to feed them. It was like going back in time training on the same machines Casey trained on. I really never admired Casey's physique his work ethic and strength amazing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 03, 2013, 10:40:08 AM
ANOTHER TRICK I DO HANGING LEG RAISES ARE AWESOME BUT I TEND TO SWING SO WHAT I DO IS ON THE WEIGHT ASSISTED
DIP MACHINE I PUT PAD UP REVERSE BODY AND REST LOWER BACK UPPER GLUTE ON PAD EDGE AND THEN RAISE LEGS LIKE NORMAL AND I DON'T SWING AT ALL,,,

I know what you mean about swinging when doing hanging leg raises; I have had the same experience. When someone who is in tip top shape with really strong abs does hanging leg raises, it is a sight to behold....absolute control and strength.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2013, 10:44:02 AM
i have always prefered to use hanging knee raises , bent knees and roll my pelvis up and forward for maximum contraction...saw a pic of mohamed makkawy doing them then i tried them...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 03, 2013, 10:45:31 AM
i have always prefered to use hanging knee raises , bent knees and roll my pelvis up and forward for maximum contraction...saw a pic of mohamed makkawy doing then i tried them...
Great for lower abs combine with crunches all you need.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 03, 2013, 10:46:42 AM
Great for lower abs combine with crunches all you need.
that's all I do,,,many reps,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 03, 2013, 10:46:52 AM
ANOTHER TRICK I DO HANGING LEG RAISES ARE AWESOME BUT I TEND TO SWING SO WHAT I DO IS ON THE WEIGHT ASSISTED
DIP MACHINE I PUT PAD UP REVERSE BODY AND REST LOWER BACK UPPER GLUTE ON PAD EDGE AND THEN RAISE LEGS LIKE NORMAL AND I DON'T SWING AT ALL,,,

Nautilus Plus in Oregon City has two leg raise stations which are specifically designed for the position you've mentioned. The pad at the back is long enough to support your back and qlutes. Rather than just a bare bar you rest your forearms on a flat pad. It is very comfortable to use. Somehow the Ab Coaster is a slightly different movement. The trick is to do these with a very controlled motion. like with other ways of doing leg raises, there is a tendency to use momentum rather than muscle to lift the legs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2013, 10:49:32 AM
Great for lower abs combine with crunches all you need.
100% i always loved mohamedsīs routine in ultra ripped abs by bob kennedy...
Crunch(double crunch) 3x12-15
Hanging knee raise 3x15-20
seated twist 3x200....yes 3x200.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 03, 2013, 10:51:36 AM
that's all I do,,,many reps,,,,

I like using the Nautilus Rotary Torso machine too for oblique's.


 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
I like using the Nautilus Rotary Torso machine too for oblique's.


 
got a machine like that but i never use it..maybe i will try it Jay... i used to love the old broomstick twists...really worked
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 03, 2013, 10:54:13 AM
Nautilus Plus in Oregon City has two leg raise stations which are specifically designed for the position you've mentioned. The pad at the back is long enough to support your back and qlutes. Rather than just a bare bar you rest your forearms on a flat pad. It is very comfortable to use. Somehow the Ab Coaster is a slightly different movement. The trick is to do these with a very controlled motion. like with other ways of doing leg raises, there is a tendency to use momentum rather than muscle to lift the legs.
yes,,and jay I should have been more specific I use that one too your hands are on pegs and arms next to body,,,with the dip machine and reversed and sitting back tail bone to bad slightly bumping into it to support them arms stretched out like normal leg raise and then no swing like a cheat version but it works,,,my abs are strong 'core'aspect but lower body legs are heavy its tough ,,i'm a wimp cause I see pro in pictures like haney doing them no problem and they were massive..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 03, 2013, 10:54:17 AM
Does anyone do kneeling cable crunches? The routine I am currently using suggests doing these. If you've done them, can you tell me how they compare to other ways of doing crunches. I've done them before, but I don't get what the advantage is.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 03, 2013, 10:54:46 AM
I like using the Nautilus Rotary Torso machine too for oblique's.


 
The rotary torso a decent machine bored me, I had rather just do twists with a bar.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 03, 2013, 10:55:35 AM
yes,,and jay I should have been more specific I use that one too your hands are on pegs and arms next to body,,,with the dip machine and reversed and sitting back tail bone to bad slightly bumping into it to support them arms stretched out like normal leg raise and then no swing like a cheat version but it works,,,my abs are strong 'core'aspect but lower body legs are heavy its tough ,,i'm a wimp cause I see pro in pictures like haney doing them no problem and they were massive..

I seriously doubt you are a wimp.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 03, 2013, 10:56:47 AM
The rotary torso a decent machine bored me, I had rather just do twists with a bar.
Exactly. I just posted the same thing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2013, 10:56:54 AM
Does anyone do kneeling cable crunches? The routine I am currently using suggests doing these. If you done them can you tell me how they compare to other ways of doing crunches. I've done them before, but I don't get what the advantage is.
never really liked them more serratus for me... maybe i did them wrong... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2013, 11:02:17 AM
I seriously doubt you are a wimp.
x2... solid abs works for you
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 03, 2013, 11:02:37 AM
never really liked them more serratus for me... maybe i did them wrong... ;D

Right, trainer! If they are good for a serratus workout, I should be doing them. There is not much more than a little fat on this part of my body.

I'll be back later....got to vacuum the house, mow the lawn, take the dog to the vet for shots and get this all done before it is time for the gym.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2013, 12:51:10 PM
Right, trainer! If they are good for a serratus workout, I should be doing them. There is not much more than a little fat on this part of my body.

I'll be back later....got to vacuum the house, mow the lawn, take the dog to the vet for shots and get this all done before it is time for the gym.  ;D
Jay i can learn from you..i like your calm intelligent way..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2013, 04:41:01 PM
i love Frank Sinatra..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 03, 2013, 07:05:24 PM
i love Frank Sinatra..


I like Frank's singing too, even though he was more of a star in my parent's day. The Beatles were popular in my day. The odd thing is that I didn't much care for their music, although I do like some of it today. I was listening to Macy Gray today while I worked out. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqfq6_macy-gray-i-try_music#.UYRqzZ3n8qI (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqfq6_macy-gray-i-try_music#.UYRqzZ3n8qI) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHaz1foH1cc&NR=1&feature=endscreen  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHaz1foH1cc&NR=1&feature=endscreen) http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=6Qr0D5S2GxE&feature=endscreen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=6Qr0D5S2GxE&feature=endscreen)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 04, 2013, 01:56:03 AM
jay... ;D you are much younger than your age...cool.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 04, 2013, 03:09:49 AM
i am hoping to get back to a 5 day split next week...i just love an arm day on itīs own. well the weekend is here and i will have a good rest. had a good Barbecue yesterday evening and a few beers...LOL got to be done.. ;D an old Army buddy was here and we talked into the early hours and got fairly drunk. i think i have convinced him to start walking as he is getting rather fat. First met him around 87 and he was very fit then. showed him getbig and he found it funny.. also showed him Jayīs picture and said look at that..he did say respect. Hope he does learn because he is now Diabetic.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 04, 2013, 03:15:43 AM
i am hoping to get back to a 5 day split next week...i just love an arm day on itīs own. well the weekend is here and i will have a good rest. had a good Barbecue yesterday evening and a few beers...LOL got to be done.. ;D an old Army buddy was here and we talked into the early hours and got fairly drunk. i think i have convinced him to start walking as he is getting rather fat. First met him around 87 and he was very fit then. showed him getbig and he found it funny.. also showed him Jayīs picture and said look at that..he did say respect. Hope he does learn because he is now Diabetic.
Sad to hear, my dad died of Diabetic complications. Type II can sometimes be reversed with proper diet and exercise, problem is Diabetic's have no energy and feel like shit most of the time it takes a real effort to get them to eat right and exercise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 04, 2013, 03:26:01 AM
Sad to hear, my dad died of Diabetic complications. Type II can sometimes be reversed with proper diet and exercise, problem is Diabetic's have no energy and feel like shit most of the time it takes a real effort to get them to eat right and exercise.
yes i mean he is younger than me.. may 29th iīm 47 :) he is 44. really has piled on the weight. He has a dog and used to go for an hour walk every day but now itīs just 5 mins round the corner... he does not work either and is always at the Doctor. he was in the Infantry and a good boxer too. I will make a point of kicking his ass in the near future.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 04, 2013, 03:32:39 AM
yes i mean he is younger than me.. may 29th iīm 47 :) he is 44. really has piled on the weight. He has a dog and used to go for an hour walk every day but now itīs just 5 mins round the corner... he does not work either and is always at the Doctor. he was in the Infantry and a good boxer too. I will make a point of kicking his ass in the near future.
Yes kick his ass in future it's tough to lose a good friend.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 04, 2013, 03:46:44 AM
Yes kick his ass in future it's tough to lose a good friend.
yes i will have to start slowly with walking and then i will take him in the Gym. He has never trained with weights just old style body weight stuff that we did in the Army. However i will get him in shape.. he is a good friend. Very loyal and trust worthy. Me and him got into a few scrapes together as young guys.. ;D was very good with his hands ..boxing wise.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 04, 2013, 07:34:57 AM
sorry about bud there donny,,,,
did legs here we go''''
leg extensions 1st,,,175/195/225/235/250 12 reps sets
leg press 4plates 12,5 plates 12,6 plates 10,7 plates 10
squat close feet 225 12,275 10,315 10,
lunges 50 lb dbell walking 12/15 steps per leg

hams
stiff legged dlift dbell 50/60/75
seated leg curl x3

calves superset tri set 10 reps each machine leg press/seated calf raise/standing calf raise toes in ..3x around
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 04, 2013, 07:43:40 AM
sorry about bud there donny,,,,
did legs here we go''''
leg extensions 1st,,,175/195/225/235/250 12 reps sets
leg press 4plates 12,5 plates 12,6 plates 10,7 plates 10
squat close feet 225 12,275 10,315 10,
lunges 50 lb dbell walking 12/15 steps per leg

hams
stiff legged dlift dbell 50/60/75
seated leg curl x3

calves superset tri set 10 reps each machine leg press/seated calf raise/standing calf raise toes in ..3x around
Thanks Steve.. yes he is a top guy just needs sorting... ;D nice workout and you are really the tom platz here on leg training. I like the feet position on your squats and also you mentioned the foot position on the Hamstrings thread(leg press).. very intelligent and aware. as is Jay with the hack squat Hamstring variation...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 04, 2013, 07:52:14 AM
Thanks Steve.. yes he is a top guy just needs sorting... ;D nice workout and you are really the tom platz here on leg training. I like the feet position on your squats and also you mentioned the foot position on the Hamstrings thread(leg press).. very intelligent and aware. as is Jay with the hack squat Hamstring variation...
there was always a state of mind to go into to envision someones training and or bodypart to lock into when doing them,,yeah platz comes to mind his approach i do get that minset,chest was arnold still to the day i like seeing it swell under shirt ,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 04, 2013, 08:01:56 AM
there was always a state of mind to go into to envision someones training and or bodypart to lock into when doing them,,yeah platz comes to mind his approach i do get that minset,chest was arnold still to the day i like seeing it swell under shirt ,
very true.. i always concentrated on my waist and visualized Steve Reeves and Mohamed makkawy..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 04, 2013, 08:03:56 AM
very true.. i always concentrated on my waist and visualized Steve Reeves and Mohamed makkawy..
good choices,,,yates enviosioned benaziza to get his back look after losing to him in 90 noc ,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 04, 2013, 08:07:43 AM
now this guy was also great but never spoken about...
http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?a=Vandensteen,+Pierre
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 04, 2013, 08:08:58 AM
good choices,,,yates enviosioned benaziza to get his back look after losing to him in 90 noc ,,
really never knew that..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 04, 2013, 08:11:30 AM
really never knew that..
i could never be yates nor would i drug myself to those amounts to try,,,but i respected his ability and his training and knowing how to go extremes to get there.he lived in england and trained there made people go there to get pics of him,he did not try to go 'venice'he trained to win,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 04, 2013, 08:24:49 AM
i could never be yates nor would i drug myself to those amounts to try,,,but i respected his ability and his training and knowing how to go extremes to get there.he lived in england and trained there made people go there to get pics of him,he did not try to go 'venice'he trained to win,,
I am more like you training wise and mentality..well we all are here. I have to say that Dorian Yates was Good/Bad a turning point for Bodybuilding. His toughness and courage are not questionable. He is/was Hardcore to the bone and really opened doors for bodybuilders(along with Reg park) in the UK into the big wide open. To come and compete in the US. I never had the desire too look like him or the genetics to be like him..i could take all the drugs in the world and still never be Mr O like him. I like more Greg Plitt and fitness. my role models are Greg plitt,Frank zane, Bob Paris,lee Labrada,steve reeves.....why Greg Plitt? his motivation is great and i just like him and his ideas(no Homo )
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 04, 2013, 08:33:34 AM
 :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 04, 2013, 09:35:43 AM
taken after workout ,,,platzian lol,,,,lot of effort goes into my training,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 04, 2013, 10:02:26 AM
you can see clearly the vastus medialis and vastus lateralis...i would also bet that the sartorius is also evedened the muscle Gironda always wanted to point out and develop with leaning back on leg extensions. you have great legs...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 04, 2013, 10:04:27 AM
taken after workout ,,,platzian lol,,,,lot of effort goes into my training,,,
Great legs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 04, 2013, 10:11:01 AM
also worked by bringing your knees together... this is why i always show men Abduction and adduction.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 04, 2013, 11:38:51 AM
Great legs.
thanks mr n,,,and shout out to mr n coming here,,,guy is great boarder here from y board and gossip,,and he even got me to do something i haven't done for long time 3 wks now and enjoying stiff legged dbell stretches he thought going heavy on stiff legged which i do is good but thought more detail and balance to my quads being focal point would help ,he's right i feel a deeper stretch i use small platform...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 04, 2013, 11:56:33 AM
thanks mr n,,,and shout out to mr n coming here,,,guy is great boarder here from y board and gossip,,and he even got me to do something i haven't done for long time 3 wks now and enjoying stiff legged dbell stretches he thought going heavy on stiff legged which i do is good but thought more detail and balance to my quads being focal point would help ,he's right i feel a deeper stretch i use small platform...
Thanks, are you thinking of competing again?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 04, 2013, 11:59:31 AM
Thanks, are you thinking of competing again?
i stay in shape so if the bug hits me i just adjust some things and go,,,i just think training and staying in top shape 'taking the bbing look aside dried out 3/4 pct look'maintaining a nice 8 pct is ideal,,,and still respectable...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 04, 2013, 12:09:42 PM
jay... ;D you are much younger than your age...cool.. ;D ;D

This may be thanks to having friends and family of all ages. My youngest grandchildren are both 15 years old, almost 16, this alone keeps an old fart like connected with youth and their interests. I have always held that age is just a number. Old people are not any wiser than young people, they just have more experiences, both good and bad.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 04, 2013, 12:23:39 PM
This may be thanks to having friends and family of all ages. My youngest grandchildren are both 15 years old, almost 16, this alone keeps an old fart like connected with youth and their interests. I have always held that age is just a number. Old people are not any wiser than young people, they just have more experiences, both good and bad.
I am looking forward to being a Grandfather... you are a cool guy and the fact that you posted your picture shows you are a man of your word and i find you are a Gentleman. your posts show your maturity.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 04, 2013, 12:33:17 PM
i am hoping to get back to a 5 day split next week...i just love an arm day on itīs own. well the weekend is here and i will have a good rest. had a good Barbecue yesterday evening and a few beers...LOL got to be done.. ;D an old Army buddy was here and we talked into the early hours and got fairly drunk. i think i have convinced him to start walking as he is getting rather fat. First met him around 87 and he was very fit then. showed him getbig and he found it funny.. also showed him Jayīs picture and said look at that..he did say respect. Hope he does learn because he is now Diabetic.

My wife is dying from complications caused by diabetes. She first showed symptoms of the disease after our daughter was born. The doctors refer to this as gestational diabetes, meaning it is triggered by pregnancy. During this pregnancy, my wife actually lost weight. Unfortunately, not being one who was ever very diligent in taking care of her health, she ignored the disease for many years until she started having vision problems (diabetic retinopathy) which required surgery to fix. By this time she also had congestive heart failure and kidney disease, also caused by the diabetes.

Age and too much stress on her knees from being overweight caused severe arthritis in her knees requiring knee replacement surgery. Because of her weakened health she nearly did not survive the two knee replacement surgeries. However to other option would have been complete immobility which would have eventually killed her anyway.

Today, my beautiful wife walks using a rollator transport chair, mainly because she has a fear of falling, which she has done far too many times. She is on oxygen 24/7 for the congestive heart failure. Her thyroid is non functional and large, but she would not survive another surgery, so it cannot be removed. Her kidney function is at around 17 to 20% of normal. 15% or less requires dialysis to live. She sleeps around 16 hours a day. If she falls, she does not have enough strength to get up. Recently she spent over two hours on the bedroom floor before I came home and discovered her there. She does not know why she fell.

Because her energy levels are zip, she really cannot do much at all. We were hoping to go to Germany this summer for our son's 25th wedding anniversary, but she is not healthy enough for travel. I am retired now. One of the main reasons I retired when I did was because I needed to be home to take care of my wife.

It is interesting to consider that my wife never exercised or worried about taking care of her health. I made exercise a part of my life my whole life and my health is pretty darn good today. This is good because we'd be in an old folks home if both of us had poor health. When I said my wife is dying, I didn't mean we know when that will happen. It could be years from now. She could out live me. It just isn't much of a life for her.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 04, 2013, 12:36:34 PM
taken after workout ,,,platzian lol,,,,lot of effort goes into my training,,,

These photos you've posted will be my inspiration for today when I work quads and maybe calves again if the soreness in my calves has subsided enough to punish them for a second time this week. Thank you for posting the photos.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 04, 2013, 12:44:06 PM
My wife is dying from complications caused by diabetes. She first showed symptoms of the disease after our daughter was born. The doctors refer to this as gestational diabetes, meaning it is triggered by pregnancy. During this pregnancy, my wife actually lost weight. Unfortunately, not being one who was ever very diligent in taking care of her health, she ignored the disease for many years until she started having vision problems (diabetic retinopathy) which required surgery to fix. By this time she also had congestive heart failure and kidney disease, also caused by the diabetes.

Age and too much stress on her knees from being overweight caused severe arthritis in her knees requiring knee replacement surgery. Because of her weakened health she nearly did not survive the two knee replacement surgeries. However to other option would have been complete immobility which would have eventually killed her anyway.

Today, my beautiful wife walks using a rollator transport chair, mainly because she has a fear of falling, which she has done far too many times. She is on oxygen 24/7 for the congestive heart failure. Her thyroid is non functional and large, but she would not survive another surgery, so it cannot be removed. Her kidney function is at around 17 to 20% of normal. 15% or less requires dialysis to live. She sleeps around 16 hours a day. If she falls, she does not have enough strength to get up. Recently she spent over two hours on the bedroom floor before I came home and discovered her there. She does not know why she fell.

Because her energy levels are zip, she really cannot do much at all. We were hoping to go to Germany this summer for our son's 25th wedding anniversary, but she is not healthy enough for travel. I am retired now. One of the main reasons I retired when I did was because I needed to be home to take care of my wife.

It is interesting to consider that my wife never exercised or worried about taking care of her health. I made exercise a part of my life my whole life and my health is pretty darn good today. This is good because we'd be in an old folks home if both of us had poor health. When I said my wife is dying, I didn't mean we know when that will happen. It could be years from now. She could out live me. It just isn't much of a life for her.
Sad to here this Prime, all we can do is take one day at a time. You are a good person to stand by her and Karma will reward you down the road.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 04, 2013, 12:57:33 PM
Friday's workout: Chest

Isolateral flat bench presses 4X10-4
Isolateral incline bench presses 3X8-4
Isolateral decline bench presses 3x8-4
Parallel bar dips on a weight assisted Nautilus machine 3X8-4
Nautilus pec deck 3X10-6
Nautilus super pullover 3X10-6


I started using the Isolateral or Hammer Strength machines for bench presses several years ago, because one cannot drop the weight on themselves if they get a cramp in their hands, like I do from having had carpel tunnel syndrome and arthritis. Another benefit is that you cannot compensate using your stronger side to support your weaker side like with a normal barbell. Of course, not having to balance the weight is a negative when it comes to developing supporting smaller muscle fibers.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 04, 2013, 01:06:16 PM
Friday's workout: Chest

Isolateral flat bench presses 4X10-4
Isolateral incline bench presses 3X8-4
Isolateral decline bench presses 3x8-4
Parallel bar dips on a weight assisted Nautilus machine 3X8-4
Nautilus pec deck 3X10-6
Nautilus super pullover 3X10-6


I started using the Isolateral or Hammer Strength machines for bench presses several years ago, because one cannot drop the weight on themselves if they get a cramp in their hands, like I do from having had carpel tunnel syndrome and arthritis. Another benefit is that you cannot compensate using your stronger side to support your weaker side like with a normal barbell. Of course, not having to balance the weight is a negative when it comes to developing supporting smaller muscle fibers.


Nautilus the old ones probably the best machines ever most had foot pedals so as you could past failure and do negatives. Hammer strength probably second best the rest pretty much suck.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 04, 2013, 01:28:09 PM
My wife is dying from complications caused by diabetes. She first showed symptoms of the disease after our daughter was born. The doctors refer to this as gestational diabetes, meaning it is triggered by pregnancy. During this pregnancy, my wife actually lost weight. Unfortunately, not being one who was ever very diligent in taking care of her health, she ignored the disease for many years until she started having vision problems (diabetic retinopathy) which required surgery to fix. By this time she also had congestive heart failure and kidney disease, also caused by the diabetes.

Age and too much stress on her knees from being overweight caused severe arthritis in her knees requiring knee replacement surgery. Because of her weakened health she nearly did not survive the two knee replacement surgeries. However to other option would have been complete immobility which would have eventually killed her anyway.

Today, my beautiful wife walks using a rollator transport chair, mainly because she has a fear of falling, which she has done far too many times. She is on oxygen 24/7 for the congestive heart failure. Her thyroid is non functional and large, but she would not survive another surgery, so it cannot be removed. Her kidney function is at around 17 to 20% of normal. 15% or less requires dialysis to live. She sleeps around 16 hours a day. If she falls, she does not have enough strength to get up. Recently she spent over two hours on the bedroom floor before I came home and discovered her there. She does not know why she fell.

Because her energy levels are zip, she really cannot do much at all. We were hoping to go to Germany this summer for our son's 25th wedding anniversary, but she is not healthy enough for travel. I am retired now. One of the main reasons I retired when I did was because I needed to be home to take care of my wife.

It is interesting to consider that my wife never exercised or worried about taking care of her health. I made exercise a part of my life my whole life and my health is pretty darn good today. This is good because we'd be in an old folks home if both of us had poor health. When I said my wife is dying, I didn't mean we know when that will happen. It could be years from now. She could out live me. It just isn't much of a life for her.
i know you from here and on Facebooks.. you are a fucking good man who i would take in my arms.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 04, 2013, 04:09:37 PM
prime stay upbeat and good man,husband,father,grandfather through all of this,,glad u here and posting workouts,,i think you will get in great shape and lift u up some...be well...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 04, 2013, 04:18:10 PM
prime stay upbeat and good man,husband,father,grandfather through all of this,,glad u here and posting workouts,,i think you will get in great shape and lift u up some...be well...
x2
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 04, 2013, 04:58:54 PM
Saturday workout: Quads and calves

Leg extensions 4X10-6@100-160
Calf raises toes on platform 4X8-15@160-220
Leg Press machine 5X6-2@200-600 added weight
Calf raise on leg press machine 5X10-6@200-350 added weight
Hack squats on Machine 3X6-4 @45-90 added weight
Seated calf raises 3X15-6@45-115

I know this isn't much poundage on anything, but remember this is my first week after about two years of occasional Nautilus only workouts. I was doing over 1,000lbs on the leg press before I slacked off. It took awhile for my knees to loosen up on the hack squat, especially the right one which is the leg where I have sciatica problems. The good news is that for the most part the sciatica isn't nearly as bothersome as it was prior to starting this routine this week. Although I said I might wuss out on calves today, I went ahead and did them. Soon I will have legs like you njflex. When that happens, I will post up photos of me in my skivvies too.  ;D

Next week my wife will be coming with me to the gym three days a week, because she is starting physical therapy at North Lake Physical Therapy, which is attached to the gym. Since her last fall, she has had ongoing pain in her leg. At first the doctor thought she'd broken something, but the x-rays showed no breaks of fractures. When we were at the doctor's on Thursday, I suggested that maybe she'd bruised her spine, which might be causing sciatica. The doctor agreed with my diagnosis (heck, I should have become a doctor). Since her ability to exercise is nil, maybe the physical therapy will help ease her pain. I dropped her off to do some grocery shopping across the street from the gym while I did my workout. They have motorized chairs/shopping carts. Grocery shopping is one of her favorite things to do.

I accused her of stealing my sciatica symptoms.  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 04, 2013, 05:42:34 PM
Saturday workout: Quads and calves

Leg extensions 4X10-6@100-160
Calf raises toes on platform 4X8-15@160-220
Leg Press machine 5X6-2@200-600 added weight
Calf raise on leg press machine 5X10-6@200-350 added weight
Hack squats on Machine 3X6-4 @45-90 added weight
Seated calf raises 3X15-6@45-115

I know this isn't much poundage on anything, but remember this is my first week after about two years of occasional Nautilus only workouts. I was doing over 1,000lbs on the leg press before I slacked off. It took awhile for my knees to loosen up on the hack squat, especially the right one which is the leg where I have sciatica problems. The good news is that for the most part the sciatica isn't nearly as bothersome as it was prior to starting this routine this week. Although I said I might wuss out on calves today, I went ahead and did them. Soon I will have legs like you njflex. When that happens, I will post up photos of me in my skivvies too.  ;D

Next week my wife will be coming with me to the gym three days a week, because she is starting physical therapy at North Lake Physical Therapy, which is attached to the gym. Since her last fall, she has had ongoing pain in her leg. At first the doctor thought she'd broken something, but the x-rays showed no breaks of fractures. When we were at the doctor's on Thursday, I suggested that maybe she'd bruised her spine, which might be causing sciatica. The doctor agreed with my diagnosis (heck, I should have become a doctor). Since her ability to exercise is nil, maybe the physical therapy will help ease her pain. I dropped her off to do some grocery shopping across the street from the gym while I did my workout. They have motorized chairs/shopping carts. Grocery shopping is one of her favorite things to do.

I accused her of stealing my sciatica symptoms.  ;)
nice jay,,,skivvies lol,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 04, 2013, 05:47:23 PM
excellent Jay  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 04, 2013, 05:51:58 PM
my hack squat has thick pads on traps and goes straight down slight angle ,,jays is the hack i really like angled and u your kness come to stomach/chest depending deepness rom...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 04, 2013, 07:56:13 PM
side tri/delt/calf /hamstring /usual most muscular lol,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 04, 2013, 11:31:17 PM
my hack squat has thick pads on traps and goes straight down slight angle ,,jays is the hack i really like angled and u your kness come to stomach/chest depending deepness rom...

When I got to the last set, I was almost folded in half. Just to make sure I was getting really low, I did one set, which I did not include in the post, with no added weight, just to get a full extension. I just bought some new really hot looking turquois skivvies made by 2(X)IST, which should make my legs look incredible, however, I may have to pad the pouch to look like I am really hung, like you (no homo).
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 05, 2013, 03:51:28 AM
When I got to the last set, I was almost folded in half. Just to make sure I was getting really low, I did one set, which I did not include in the post, with no added weight, just to get a full extension. I just bought some new really hot looking turquois skivvies made by 2(X)IST, which should make my legs look incredible, however, I may have to pad the pouch to look like I am really hung, like you (no homo).
folded in half....lol i like that.. yeah just stick a rolled sock down there jay... ;D hung like a Donkey... so today itīs nice outside, will go for a bike ride later..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 05, 2013, 05:24:24 AM
a good read....
http://bodybuilding.ericsgym.com/trainingarticles/billpearldeltoids/index.htm
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 05, 2013, 06:33:52 AM
folded in half....lol i like that.. yeah just stick a rolled sock down there jay... ;D hung like a Donkey... so today itīs nice outside, will go for a bike ride later..
well i posted pic and 1st thing i saw was ummm...something is a little there,,knowing its the mature board i knew sophomoric humor would not be involved ;D,,being the gossip board would have a field day with the pic...i assure u no attempt at a manhood compliment was in order here,,just my legs which is gay enough to get compliments from lol,,,so jay yes 2 exist are great 'skivvie'choices,,my attempt at low brow bbing art has turned erotic lol,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 05, 2013, 06:38:04 AM
well i posted pic and 1st thing i saw was ummm...something is a little there,,knowing its the mature board i knew sophomoric humor would not be involved ;D,,being the gossip board would have a field day with the pic...i assure u no attempt at a manhood compliment was in order here,,just my legs which is gay enough to get compliments from lol,,,so jay yes 2 exist are great 'skivvie'choices,,my attempt at low brow bbing art has turned erotic lol,,,
all good fun... Steve  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 05, 2013, 07:37:05 AM
well bike ride went out the window...maybe go for a run later in the woods...be at one with nature  ;D just me and the animals...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 05, 2013, 07:39:08 AM
well bike ride went out the window...maybe go for a run later in the woods...be at one with nature  ;D just me and the animals...
sounds like a bob ross painting,,u may not know reference lol,,,jay will...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 05, 2013, 07:44:43 AM
sounds like a bob ross painting,,u may not know reference lol,,,jay will...
no i donīt....talking of running in the woods... a guy once told me when heīs stressed he runs in the woods and just screams... maybe like stress relief... said it works for him... ;D I go on my balcony and swing my Aikido wooden sword(Ken) and do a kata....Iwama Ryu, Takemusu Aikido.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 05, 2013, 10:28:55 AM
no i donīt....talking of running in the woods... a guy once told me when heīs stressed he runs in the woods and just screams... maybe like stress relief... said it works for him... ;D I go on my balcony and swing my Aikido wooden sword(Ken) and do a kata....Iwama Ryu, Takemusu Aikido.
I used to run in the woods a park, it had stations were you do dips, chins etc I always carried a stick with me a mexican tried to rob me once hit him right over the head.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 05, 2013, 10:35:39 AM
I used to run in the woods a park, it had stations were you do dips, chins etc I always carried a stick with me a mexican tried to rob me once hit him right over the head.
;D...nice one i just been running. where i run i go over a bridge then into the woods. There is a park bench and every time i see the same guy drinking his Beers...lol  Messy twat leaves his beer bottles behind and there are beer bottle tops and cigarette ends every where..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 05, 2013, 10:42:56 AM
this made me laugh.. reminds me of my Basic training at Woolwich Barracks London. This film is i think from the 60s but in the middle 80s it was the same...lol. The itchy wool shirts and they made you wear them without a t-shirt under them.. remember doing drill on the parade square like this, sweat running down the small of your back...middle summer 1985 and it was hot. we had the same rifle as the film too..the SLR.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 05, 2013, 10:43:35 AM
;D...nice one i just been running. where i run i go over a bridge then into the woods. There is a park bench and every time i see the same guy drinking his Beers...lol  Messy twat leaves his beer bottles behind and there are beer bottle tops and cigarette ends every where..
He needs a stick across the head.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 05, 2013, 10:48:12 AM
He needs a stick across the head.  ;D
yeah... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 05, 2013, 10:54:26 AM
top pic on the right shows the marble arches that were in front of the drill square...remember getting a bit of oral stimulation from a local girl in the arches one night... ;D ah....good times...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Artillery_Barracks
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 05, 2013, 11:37:49 AM
well i posted pic and 1st thing i saw was ummm...something is a little there,,knowing its the mature board i knew sophomoric humor would not be involved ;D,,being the gossip board would have a field day with the pic...i assure u no attempt at a manhood compliment was in order here,,just my legs which is gay enough to get compliments from lol,,,so jay yes 2 exist are great 'skivvie'choices,,my attempt at low brow bbing art has turned erotic lol,,,

And surprise, surprise....the old man on the board goes all sophomoric on you. Guess one never gets over being a bit "randy" every now and then.

What is gay about posting photos of one's leg development?

When you see my legs, you will understand why I am a bit jealous of yours. At least with my arms, I use the excuse that they are very long, because they are. I cannot say this about my legs. Unlike my father who had very long legs, I got short ones from someone (probably the milk man). -Sleeve length 35" and inseam 31" which is just ridiculous!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 05, 2013, 11:45:41 AM
;D...nice one i just been running. where i run i go over a bridge then into the woods. There is a park bench and every time i see the same guy drinking his Beers...lol  Messy twat leaves his beer bottles behind and there are beer bottle tops and cigarette ends every where..

I was waiting for the light to change at the off ramp of the freeway and this ass wipe throws his banana peel out the window into the landscape. Pissed me off so I honked my horn at him. He hung his head out the window, yelling at me, "It's just a fucking banana peel." I yelled back, "And you're just a fucking pig." Fortunately, that is as far as it went because I didn't have a stick to hit him over the head with.  :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 05, 2013, 11:46:40 AM
I plan to take it easy today. I am hosting a meeting tomorrow at my home. So I will get everything ready for that.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 05, 2013, 12:02:52 PM
Well I'm just chilling out watching a film ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 05, 2013, 02:36:39 PM
Welcome to the mature bunch, mr nobody. Good to have you onboard.  8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 05, 2013, 03:42:12 PM
Welcome to the mature bunch, mr nobody. Good to have you onboard.  8)
I got a invitation to join, thanks and good luck. How's the cat?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 05, 2013, 04:39:03 PM
I got a invitation to join, thanks and good luck. How's the cat?
Shes got a cough and is going back to the vet tomorrow. It could be from having the tube stuck down her throat during surgery. Because she was cut through the muscle in the chest I keep panicking that its her lungs. But other than that she is doing okay. My training is going okay. Haven't been as strong lately but noticed my endurance is better. Nose wise I am feeling good. Sneezed the other day and kept my mouth closed and got alot of pressure in the bridge of my nose and it was very uncomfortable all day and night. I was told to sneeze with my mouth open. Now I know why
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 05, 2013, 04:56:15 PM
Shes got a cough and is going back to the vet tomorrow. It could be from having the tube stuck down her throat during surgery. Because she was cut through the muscle in the chest I keep panicking that its her lungs. But other than that she is doing okay. My training is going okay. Haven't been as strong lately but noticed my endurance is better. Nose wise I am feeling good. Sneezed the other day and kept my mouth closed and got alot of pressure in the bridge of my nose and it was very uncomfortable all day and night. I was told to sneeze with my mouth open. Now I know why

Are you saying we need to wear a slicker when we are around you incase you sneeze?  ;D

Sorry to hear about your kitty. Hope she heals quickly and loses the cough. I am getting this image of you sneezing and the cat coughing and it is pretty funny.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 05, 2013, 05:10:21 PM
Shes got a cough and is going back to the vet tomorrow. It could be from having the tube stuck down her throat during surgery. Because she was cut through the muscle in the chest I keep panicking that its her lungs. But other than that she is doing okay. My training is going okay. Haven't been as strong lately but noticed my endurance is better. Nose wise I am feeling good. Sneezed the other day and kept my mouth closed and got alot of pressure in the bridge of my nose and it was very uncomfortable all day and night. I was told to sneeze with my mouth open. Now I know why
So a love hate for the kitty drives you crazy but if gone you would miss her. So are a more of a slow twitch fiber person or fast twitch? slow is endurance and fast power. Yes see my believe is you pick up some of the same things from animals sounds as a cold or virus she has. Yea sneeze mouth open to expel toxins.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 05, 2013, 05:30:04 PM
How is everyone doing in the mature thread?

Three of my nephews and nieces are running a 10K Saturday. They range in age from late 30's to early 40's. I haven't been really pushing the cardio but I'm tempted to run with them. Just don't want to be embarrassed by getting left behind. I'm 54. When I'm clicking on all 8 cylinders I can still run ok but I'm just going for little 2 to 3 mile runs lately. They have been running 5 to 7 miles a day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 05, 2013, 05:46:02 PM
So a love hate for the kitty drives you crazy but if gone you would miss her. So are a more of a slow twitch fiber person or fast twitch? slow is endurance and fast power. Yes see my believe is you pick up some of the same things from animals sounds as a cold or virus she has. Yea sneeze mouth open to expel toxins.
i am fast twitch. Always been better at explosive exercises and I remember at school I would be first or second in the 50 metre sprints but put me in the 100 metres and I was almost last. No I think my strength sucks at the moment because my sleep isn't too good and I have been under some stress at home so its affecting my training.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 05, 2013, 05:50:40 PM
Are you saying we need to wear a slicker when we are around you incase you sneeze?  ;D

Sorry to hear about your kitty. Hope she heals quickly and loses the cough. I am getting this image of you sneezing and the cat coughing and it is pretty funny.
no nothing comes out of my nose when I sneeze Jay. I am as clean as a whistle. I have only sneezed about 4 or 5 times since I had my op. There must have been something in the air to make me sneeze. When ever the cat coughs I cuddle her. My son said I don't treat her like a cat but like a baby. My other cat mocha is getting jealous of all the babying I am giving chino and hisses at her. She ripped up some certificates I had sitting next to my bed. Mocha can be a bitch
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 05, 2013, 06:11:40 PM
i am fast twitch. Always been better at explosive exercises and I remember at school I would be first or second in the 50 metre sprints but put me in the 100 metres and I was almost last. No I think my strength sucks at the moment because my sleep isn't too good and I have been under some stress at home so its affecting my training.
Sounds as fast twitch you are, I played basketball they put me a center because at 6'2" height I could jump and block a shot of a 6'8" guys shot. But had no endurance. Sleep is very important maybe try some Magnesium it's cheap and helps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 05, 2013, 06:45:33 PM
Sounds as fast twitch you are, I played basketball they put me a center because at 6'2" height I could jump and block a shot of a 6'8" guys shot. But had no endurance. Sleep is very important maybe try some Magnesium it's cheap and helps.
so you had the height but no endurance. That sucks
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 06, 2013, 01:18:09 AM
so you had the height but no endurance. That sucks
Exactly.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 06, 2013, 01:39:07 AM
How is everyone doing in the mature thread?

Three of my nephews and nieces are running a 10K Saturday. They range in age from late 30's to early 40's. I haven't been really pushing the cardio but I'm tempted to run with them. Just don't want to be embarrassed by getting left behind. I'm 54. When I'm clicking on all 8 cylinders I can still run ok but I'm just going for little 2 to 3 mile runs lately. They have been running 5 to 7 miles a day.
well if itīs Family you are running with i would just do it to show support.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 06, 2013, 01:45:56 AM
so training wise i will hit my chest today...

Decline press 4-5x6-10
butterfly machine 4x10
Incline smith press 4x8-10 (i train upper chest with more reps)
i will put another exercise in there maybe machine dips... i might even do some cable crossovers instead of butterfly machine working the cable from the upper position to middle...then low position... feeling a bit adventurous today... ;D

A bit of Ab work and maybe cross trainer.. see how the day goes...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 06, 2013, 06:02:01 AM
sounds good Donny,,,chest/tri tonite i'll post...I hate declines I like dips chest and torso slight angled down.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 06, 2013, 09:01:08 AM
sounds good Donny,,,chest/tri tonite i'll post...I hate declines I like dips chest and torso slight angled down.
I like both decline and dips I got results from dips chin on the chest for chest, head up works more triceps. Being rather tall the declines worked better than the Bench Press for me, I think it maybe a combination of a fly motion and a press in a way I kind of feel that when doing them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 06, 2013, 09:04:49 AM
I like both decline and dips I got results from dips chin on the chest for chest, head up works more triceps. Being rather tall the declines worked better than the Bench Press for me, I think it maybe a combination of a fly motion and a press in a way I kind of feel that when doing them.
71 PAGES AND COUNTING NICE DONNY,,,,MR N YEAH DIPS CHIN TO CHEST FOWARD TILT SLIGHTLY VERT GOOD,I AGREE I PAIR IT SOMETIMES WITH CABLE CROSSOVERS SUPER SET,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 06, 2013, 04:24:50 PM
I have been in a board meeting all day. It is now almost 4:30 p.m. which is late for me to go to the gym....but, I gonna do it anyway, NO EXCUSES. I'll post up my workout when I get home or sometime later this evening.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on May 06, 2013, 05:52:30 PM
PrimeMuscle

Does you wife have a caregiver when your away all day?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 06, 2013, 08:05:34 PM
good chest workout great pump feeling stronger by the week ...healed almost 100 pct

fdb did 40/50/55/60/60 low reps on 60's its ok just feeling heavy weight again
seated hammer press x4 with drop
inc press x3
inc flye x2 felt good stretch no pain
cable crossover with pushups
tried some dips to check shoulder/back in that position 2 sets of 5 ok,,could not do 1 2 wks ago

tris
over head rope x3 with drop
pushdowns x3 with drop
tricep dip machine x3 with drop last set
2 set cable kick backs

abs
 chest pumped pic getting shelf look again in side chest ,,it was less full few wks ago lol,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 06, 2013, 08:56:06 PM
good chest workout great pump feeling stronger by the week ...healed almost 100 pct

fdb did 40/50/55/60/60 low reps on 60's its ok just feeling heavy weight again
seated hammer press x4 with drop
inc press x3
inc flye x2 felt good stretch no pain
cable crossover with pushups
tried some dips to check shoulder/back in that position 2 sets of 5 ok,,could not do 1 2 wks ago

tris
over head rope x3 with drop
pushdowns x3 with drop
tricep dip machine x3 with drop last set
2 set cable kick backs

abs
 chest pumped pic getting shelf look again in side chest ,,it was less full few wks ago lol,,,



So Steve, what do you do in particular to get that "Shelf" look? I know I just started back lifting, but my chest is looking a lot like the great Arnold's of recent times, somewhat flat upper pecs and more pronounced lower pecs which I used to want, but now that I got them, I realize there needs to be a little bit of shelf above to support the look.

Currently, I am doing flat, incline and wide decline benches plus  incline pec deck and pullovers. When I get some courage, I'll snap a photo and post it for advice. Fortunately, I have no signs nor have I ever of gyno or old man boobies.

A young fellow asked if he could work in with me today on the cable rack. I was actually working arms, triceps and biceps. He was doing cable chest work using the lower cables. Having only done these using the upper cables and employing a kind of  "bear hug" movement, I wasn't sure what part of his chest he was working....lower and outer of course. I was flattered when he complimented me on how much weight I was using. Here I am feeling like such a novice, starting out with low weights.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 06, 2013, 09:16:37 PM
Monday's workout: Arms (same routine as last Monday)

Weight 208 @ 5' 10-11"

Seated alternate dumbbell curls 4X10-4 @ 22.5 to 40 lbs. each
Triceps cable press down 4X10-8 @ 104 to 145 lbs.
Standing cable easy curl bar curls 3X6-4 @ 104 to 118 lbs.
Seated dumbbell overhead extensions 3X6-10 @ 40 to 60 lbs.
Nautilus multi-bicep curls 3X12-8 @ 55 to 75 lbs.
Triceps machine 3X12-8 @ 40 to 70 lbs.
Nautilus wrist curls 3X12-8 @ 70 to 90 lbs.
Standing cable reverse EZ-curl 3X8-6 @ 64 to 91 lbs.

Almost without exception I increased the weight at least 5 lbs. per set on each exercise, sometimes more. The interesting thing is that I felt like I could have kept going for awhile longer. I am concentrating on doing all my movements slowly, using strict form. Since I am only doing abs once a week, I am also concentrating on tightening my core during all the exercises.

I got a very late start today because I was in a meeting most of the day. It pleases me to realize I can be flexible when necessary.

This Monday was also my testosterone injection day, which might have something to do with my being really fired up. Another first for me today, the young fellow offered a "fist bump" when we were both done on the equipment. Having never done this before (being of the hand shaking generation), I hope I did it right.  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 07, 2013, 12:48:27 AM
nice workouts going on people... well i went for the cable crossovers yesterday....nice feeling in my chest today...now today i will pump up my back and i think some supersets. straight arm cable pulldowns for lats supersetted with some rowing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 07, 2013, 12:50:26 AM
yeah...yeah i know you all know the exercise, no beginners on the Mature thread  ;D 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 07, 2013, 02:20:49 AM
I am back.  I did a full recovery on my laptop and have internet, yay!  Its so werid to use these keys again and its different without auto thingy.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 07, 2013, 05:03:57 AM
I am back.  I did a full recovery on my laptop and have internet, yay!  Its so werid to use these keys again and its different without auto thingy.   ;D
:D...GLAD TO HAVE U BACK KAREN,,,,,JAY SNAP SOME PICS CHEST I WILL GIVE U SOME TIPS EVEN WITHOUT THE PIC  ;)...I HAVE A WIDE ARRAY OF CHEST EXERCISES I ROTATE,,I AM NOT A STRONG BENCHER PER SAY JUST GOOD PEC GENES,I CAN GROW ON HEAVY FLYES...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 07, 2013, 05:09:28 AM
I am back.  I did a full recovery on my laptop and have internet, yay!  Its so werid to use these keys again and its different without auto thingy.   ;D
Welcome back
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 07, 2013, 06:05:40 AM
I am back.  I did a full recovery on my laptop and have internet, yay!  Its so werid to use these keys again and its different without auto thingy.   ;D
Baby Doll is back... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 07, 2013, 06:16:16 AM
Thank you Donny, mr nobody and Steve.  ;D I will be able to start posting up my workouts again.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 07, 2013, 01:11:37 PM
I am back.  I did a full recovery on my laptop and have internet, yay!  Its so werid to use these keys again and its different without auto thingy.   ;D

Karen, does this mean that you fixed your laptop on your own? If so, good for you. If not, good for you for getting this taken care of.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 07, 2013, 01:28:08 PM
:D...GLAD TO HAVE U BACK KAREN,,,,,JAY SNAP SOME PICS CHEST I WILL GIVE U SOME TIPS EVEN WITHOUT THE PIC  ;)...I HAVE A WIDE ARRAY OF CHEST EXERCISES I ROTATE,,I AM NOT A STRONG BENCHER PER SAY JUST GOOD PEC GENES,I CAN GROW ON HEAVY FLYES...

I'll do that Steve. Maybe later today. Problem is I hate how I look in photographs. This makes it something of a chore taking them. But if I expect any feedback, I know this is what I should do. I can tell you how sorry my pecs are, but as they say a picture is worth a thousand words. -And I write too much most of the time anyway!  :)

One thing that interested me that the young fellow who was working in with me yesterday said was that he thought I should lighten up on the resistance and do more reps if I wanted to grow. I've always maintained that using the heaviest weight you can and still use strict movements was the way to go for size. I do see other muscular folks working with surprisingly light weights. Either way, I am going to stick with the routine I am doing for at least 8 weeks before I think about changes. I did consider doing a high volume - lower resistance week every so often just to keep my body guessing.

The one routine I did last week that didn't produce much results was Saturday's quads and calves. I was nervous about using too much weight after being off for so long. Now I think I must have gone too light because day two came and still there was no muscle soreness in my quads. Since I had already worked calves earlier in the week, I didn't expect this second workout of them to produces such dramatic results as the first one did, plus I did want to walk around looking like some freak for a day or two because they were so sore.

Week two is bound to be interesting. I increased the resistance while keeping the movement slow and well controlled when working arms yesterday. Aside for a slightly tight feeling in my upper arms, both triceps and biceps, it doesn't feel like I overworked them at all....and perhaps not enough.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 07, 2013, 02:19:53 PM
I'll do that Steve. Maybe later today. Problem is I hate how I look in photographs. This makes it something of a chore taking them. But if I expect any feedback, I know this is what I should do. I can tell you how sorry my pecs are, but as they say a picture is worth a thousand words. -And I write too much most of the time anyway!  :)

One thing that interested me that the young fellow who was working in with me yesterday said was that he thought I should lighten up on the resistance and do more reps if I wanted to grow. I've always maintained that using the heaviest weight you can and still use strict movements was the way to go for size. I do see other muscular folks working with surprisingly light weights. Either way, I am going to stick with the routine I am doing for at least 8 weeks before I think about changes. I did consider doing a high volume - lower resistance week every so often just to keep my body guessing.

The one routine I did last week that didn't produce much results was Saturday's quads and calves. I was nervous about using too much weight after being off for so long. Now I think I must have gone too light because day two came and still there was no muscle soreness in my quads. Since I had already worked calves earlier in the week, I didn't expect this second workout of them to produces such dramatic results as the first one did, plus I did want to walk around looking like some freak for a day or two because they were so sore.

Week two is bound to be interesting. I increased the resistance while keeping the movement slow and well controlled when working arms yesterday. Aside for a slightly tight feeling in my upper arms, both triceps and biceps, it doesn't feel like I overworked them at all....and perhaps not enough.
I'LL CHECK IN LATER AND COMMENT ON THIS,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 07, 2013, 06:39:08 PM
well jay everyone has some great bodyparts/some that need work/some that need a lot of work,,,it would be easy to say more reps/more volume/more exercises will do trick and maybe in the begginiing of attacking a weaker body part yes but when that ens u need to do something different or outside of the box.now u like low rep training thats fine if your chest say needs fine tuning do ir beginning week low rep /heavier weights,come back end of week and change exercise's and incorporate more cables/machines and do 12/15 reps with emphasis on squeezing the pecs.for me low reps for pecs 6/8 and some 10/12 with flyes cables but chest responds lower/heavier weight ,,now my delts are different higher reps and some supersets combo's work ,i do delts too heavy low reps i get nothing,tris i go heavy but high reps 10/15 ,,back heavy low reps mostly ,see every bodypart does not follow blueprint you want it too or imagine ,,u go by feel and follow it from there till u hit it right.good thing u have nothing to lose till the next workout and then u can change it up till it feels right,ur always getting something out of your workout,idea is to get the most out of the bodypart ur training and not the other muscles involved around,,like chest say pecs should carry brunt load and pump and tri's and fr delts should not be primary muscles getting worked/developed my training partner has this and has 'pancake'pecs do to it...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 07, 2013, 11:32:38 PM
Karen, does this mean that you fixed your laptop on your own? If so, good for you. If not, good for you for getting this taken care of.
I did the recovery on my own but I had the help of someone long distance guide me and basically give me the confidence to do it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 07, 2013, 11:38:45 PM
I did the recovery on my own but I had the help of someone long distance guide me and basically give me the confidence to do it.

Well congratulations are in order then. A lot of people are plain afraid to mess with their computers. A little assist from someone with more experience to boost your confidence is a great choice. The next time your computer goes haywire, and it will because they all do sometimes, you will have just a little more knowledge and experience on how to get it up and running again.

My wife always calls me when something goes wrong. She doesn't want to touch the computer and with me around, she has not had to.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 07, 2013, 11:40:09 PM
I did the recovery on my own but I had the help of someone long distance guide me and basically give me the confidence to do it.
booty if you ever need help on computers let me know that's what I do for a living. Are you getting back into training?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 08, 2013, 12:25:58 AM
well jay everyone has some great bodyparts/some that need work/some that need a lot of work,,,it would be easy to say more reps/more volume/more exercises will do trick and maybe in the begginiing of attacking a weaker body part yes but when that ens u need to do something different or outside of the box.now u like low rep training thats fine if your chest say needs fine tuning do ir beginning week low rep /heavier weights,come back end of week and change exercise's and incorporate more cables/machines and do 12/15 reps with emphasis on squeezing the pecs.for me low reps for pecs 6/8 and some 10/12 with flyes cables but chest responds lower/heavier weight ,,now my delts are different higher reps and some supersets combo's work ,i do delts too heavy low reps i get nothing,tris i go heavy but high reps 10/15 ,,back heavy low reps mostly ,see every bodypart does not follow blueprint you want it too or imagine ,,u go by feel and follow it from there till u hit it right.good thing u have nothing to lose till the next workout and then u can change it up till it feels right,ur always getting something out of your workout,idea is to get the most out of the bodypart ur training and not the other muscles involved around,,like chest say pecs should carry brunt load and pump and tri's and fr delts should not be primary muscles getting worked/developed my training partner has this and has 'pancake'pecs do to it...

Thanks Steve,

This is all good advice. Basically you are saying get to know your body and how it responds to various routines. Not all muscles respond the same and not all people get the same results from the similar routines. I know this already, but it is good to be reminded of it.

It is probably too soon for me to know how my body is going to respond at this point in time because I only just got serious a week ago. Essentially, last week was a test run. In all likelihood, this whole month is going to be a test. I am making mental notes already, plus keeping accurate records. I am not measuring anything yet because I don't want to be discouraged by how far I've fallen. I can say that so far this week, I have increased the resistance on all exercises. Today I even increased a few reps beyond what the program calls for. I did this in response to how I was feeling as the routine went along.

Now lets get down to the nitty gritty. I did take a couple of photos in the locker room today which I am bravely going to post here. I was in my skivvies as I said I would be, but that's not really the point. It was a spur of the moment decision and that was just what I was wearing right then (at least they were clean).  :) Anyway, I think you can get a pretty good idea of what a mess I am right now. I did try to look as good as I could but I am hardly flexed. There needs to be something there to flex if I'm going to do that. OK here goes, he said while holding his breath.

Any constructive criticism or advice is welcome. When I weighed myself I was 207.5 and as I said I am now about 5'10 3/4". You'll notice the hump my spine has up near the neck. This is partly from having bad posture as a kid and party the result of degenerative disk disease (arthritis in the spine). I think I am stuck with it, unfortunately. I think the inch or so I've shrunk over the years is all tied up in that part of my spine. Fortunately, it does not cause me any discomfort.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 08, 2013, 04:49:43 AM
well jay everyone has some great bodyparts/some that need work/some that need a lot of work,,,it would be easy to say more reps/more volume/more exercises will do trick and maybe in the begginiing of attacking a weaker body part yes but when that ens u need to do something different or outside of the box.now u like low rep training thats fine if your chest say needs fine tuning do ir beginning week low rep /heavier weights,come back end of week and change exercise's and incorporate more cables/machines and do 12/15 reps with emphasis on squeezing the pecs.for me low reps for pecs 6/8 and some 10/12 with flyes cables but chest responds lower/heavier weight ,,now my delts are different higher reps and some supersets combo's work ,i do delts too heavy low reps i get nothing,tris i go heavy but high reps 10/15 ,,back heavy low reps mostly ,see every bodypart does not follow blueprint you want it too or imagine ,,u go by feel and follow it from there till u hit it right.good thing u have nothing to lose till the next workout and then u can change it up till it feels right,ur always getting something out of your workout,idea is to get the most out of the bodypart ur training and not the other muscles involved around,,like chest say pecs should carry brunt load and pump and tri's and fr delts should not be primary muscles getting worked/developed my training partner has this and has 'pancake'pecs do to it...
Excellent post
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 08, 2013, 05:03:59 AM
so legs today,,,

Leg extensions 4x12-15 Superset with
Smith machine squats 4x10
leg curls 4x12-15 superset with
stiff deadlifts 4x10

i will finish off with seated leg press or lunges in the smith machine.. then 4-5 sets of calf raises 15+reps
cardio i will do tomorrow running in the woods.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 08, 2013, 05:06:13 AM
Hey Jay..looking good...like the poses ;D i got shorts that colour too... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 08, 2013, 05:08:10 AM
booty if you ever need help on computers let me know that's what I do for a living. Are you getting back into training?
good to know... :) i am thick when it comes to pc stuff....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 08, 2013, 09:52:42 AM
Tuesdays workout: hamstrings and calves

Weight 208

Lying leg curls, 4X10-5 @ 55-85
Standing calf raises, 4X8-15 @ 200-260
Seated leg curls, 3X8-5 @ 90-110
leg press calf raise, 3X15-12 @ 180 - 270 added weight
Reverse hack squats, 4X10-5 @ 185 - 365 added weight
Seated calf raises, 3X15-12 @ 45 - 90
Hip abduction 3X15-10 @ 90 - 110
Hip adduction 3X15-10 @ 110 - 130

All in all a good workout. I increased the resistance some and in some cases added a few reps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 08, 2013, 10:17:04 AM
jay u have some good base thickness .a few lbs off with your current regimine will work,LOTS OF INCLINES pree dumbbell or nice smith for upper pecs,i am a fan of chin to chest dips for chest lower/outer,inc flyes ,and for delts u could use some outer head side laterals I do cable od dunmbell I change it up sometimes I pin the dumbbell at sides and raise straight up or I do them dumbbell in front and raise upward the old fashioned way like ur pouring milk 'dumbbell tilted down'
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 08, 2013, 07:46:27 PM
cool jay,,thanks for sharing pics ur gold here,,,

back 2 nite getting stronger each workout its fun again
reverse hammer pulldown,,,45 plate each side warm up,45 plus 25 ,then 2 plates,2 plates and 10 for 6/8 cheat last 2 ;D
cable rows x3 165 x10,180 x10,195 x10
t bar row front loaded x3 2.5 plates x10 then 2 set 3 plates x10
shoulder width pulldown standup with slight bend at waist facing cable upper pully stretch and pull to hips x3
finished old school' donny' and 'mr.n'
 might know this one the tbar row front loaded machine u stand in front of it grab front part and row singlearm up to arm pit/side pec great strech like doing on arm row but hand position is different..try it x3...

weighted hyper x3 45 lb plate 12/15

bis
seated curl weight stack version x4
standup cable curl single arm x3 10/12
curl bar premade 60/70/80 all 12 rep sets
2 sets rope curl stand back and kinda angle it and pull in .

abs crunches on floor feet elevated bench 30 rep sets x3
roman chair angled side crunches x2
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 09, 2013, 12:05:16 AM
cool jay,,thanks for sharing pics ur gold here,,,

back 2 nite getting stronger each workout its fun again
reverse hammer pulldown,,,45 plate each side warm up,45 plus 25 ,then 2 plates,2 plates and 10 for 6/8 cheat last 2 ;D
cable rows x3 165 x10,180 x10,195 x10
t bar row front loaded x3 2.5 plates x10 then 2 set 3 plates x10
shoulder width pulldown standup with slight bend at waist facing cable upper pully stretch and pull to hips x3
finished old school' donny' and 'mr.n'
 might know this one the tbar row front loaded machine u stand in front of it grab front part and row singlearm up to arm pit/side pec great strech like doing on arm row but hand position is different..try it x3...

weighted hyper x3 45 lb plate 12/15

bis
seated curl weight stack version x4
standup cable curl single arm x3 10/12
curl bar premade 60/70/80 all 12 rep sets
2 sets rope curl stand back and kinda angle it and pull in .

abs crunches on floor feet elevated bench 30 rep sets x3
roman chair angled side crunches x2


Steve,

Your workouts are so advanced, that I feel like I am an amateur. This is okay. I may never look like you but I think I can learn a lot from you anyway.

Honestly if I have nothing more to contribute to this forum, it is that no matter how "mature" we are, we should never give it up. With any luck, I have a couple of decades left in this world. My goal is to make them the best decades they can possibly be.

My good friend a from the gym Earl, has a photo of himself posted on the hall of fame wall from the 1960's when he placed in a local bodybuilding contest and he looks amazing in this photo. Earl is 10 years older than I am. He has Parkinson's and has been advised by his doctor that he should not drive anymore. Earl still has an amazing physique. Earl has outlived more than a few training partners in the time that I have known him.

Last week, Earl told me he was going to give up his gym membership when it expired. After he told me this, I had not seen him at the gym. I worried, was he saying goodbye? Earl was at the gym today when I was there. He is still talking about giving up his membership. His reasoning is that he has all the equipment in his basement at home to continue his workouts. I told him he doesn't have everything he has at the gym. He seemed befuddled. I went on to explain that I was not at his home gym, nor were all the other folks who love him and kibitz with him everyday that he shows up at the gym. Sure he can train at home and I think he will, but what about all those years and all those connections he has made with all of us who will take a moment to pass the time with him. There is no gym culture at home.

I advised him to work out at home a few times before his annual membership dues were due and before he made a definitive choice to spend his time working out at home. Heck, I and a lot of other folks who love him would go out of our way to pay his membership dues and even drive him to the gym for a  work out, just to be able to interact with him. Not to bolster myself, but the folks who have foraged the trail for us need to be respected.

I kind of cut this short, because believe it or not, there was a knock on our front door. When I opened the door, there stood our daughter. She had been in town for a couple of days, and was hoping to surprise us and mostly her mother on mother's day. OMG, how wonderful it was to open the door and see our daughter standing there before us . She is the most wonderful daughter anyone could ever hope to have.

All the shit set aside, this is what has made my life so perfect. It is the love and devotion of our children to my wife and to me that makes us want to keep on keeping on.

I hope that all of you will someday have an experience as rich as the one my wife and I had this evening.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 09, 2013, 05:53:23 AM
nice story jay,,,,u have some nice memories and family there,,,,yeah I have some good variations,angles,exercises to keep it interesting ,,,I love training I have a lot of passion there,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 09, 2013, 07:42:38 AM
A ectomorph was Prime as a kid but some good old pics there. I only rode a horse once in my life and it bucked me off I said never again. Probably alot of soy protein drinks weight gain products to gain muscle as a teen. Whats your workouts like now days at being a bit older?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 09, 2013, 09:41:58 AM
nice story jay,,,,u have some nice memories and family there,,,,yeah I have some good variations,angles,exercises to keep it interesting ,,,I love training I have a lot of passion there,,,
yes i agree variety is the spice of life....
so i did a shoulder workout today..
seated barbell press 4x10
machine side raises 4x12
DB rear delt raises 4x12
smith machine shrugs(front)4x12

abs: crunches superset with hanging knee raises 3x max
Cardio: 45 mins run
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 09, 2013, 09:43:13 AM
yes i agree variety is the spice of life....
so i did a shoulder workout today..
seated barbell press 4x10
machine side raises 4x12
DB rear delt raises 4x12
smith machine shrugs(front)4x12

abs: crunches superset with hanging knee raises 3x max
Cardio: 45 mins run
NICE WORKOUT DONNY,,,I DO SAME MAYBE DO EXTRA MOVEMENT ,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 09, 2013, 09:55:56 AM
was Fathers Day today here but i was at work...people (Fathers) get drunk here today
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 09, 2013, 10:21:35 AM
was Fathers Day today here but i was at work...people (Fathers) get drunk here today

Looks like a nice place to get drunk Donny you still got time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 09, 2013, 10:51:22 AM
Looks like a nice place to get drunk Donny you still got time.
i would .... ;D....have a cold beer at the weekend... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 09, 2013, 02:17:10 PM
A ectomorph was Prime as a kid but some good old pics there. I only rode a horse once in my life and it bucked me off I said never again. Probably alot of soy protein drinks weight gain products to gain muscle as a teen. Whats your workouts like now days at being a bit older?

I just got back into working out after a year and a half of laziness. Currently, I am doing a workout which is specifically designed for mature folks. Each muscle group is worked once a week with the exception of calves, allowing for a long recovery. Workout sessions last usually about 45 minutes. Last week I did the routine exactly as written. This week I am not only upping the resistance, I have added some reps just to change things up some. I am surprised how quickly my strength is returning. I guess "muscle memory" is for real.

The horse in the photo was my horse. It is one of two I had during that time. The photo was taken in the front yard of my parent's home. Although we only had about an acre, there was a two stall stable and a small pasture behind the pool area in the back yard. One of my horses was proud cut, which means he was gelded as an adult. He was pretty spunky. He decided to throw me a few times and then run home on his own like a naughty kid. I'd just get right back on him and ride him some more. He also would sometimes get a hair up his butt and bolt. He was pretty hard to stop when he took off running like that.

I don't remember protein drinks back then. I did drink banana milk shakes with a couple of eggs in them everyday trying to put on some weight. I was so thin that our family doctor prescribed D-bol and gave me a testosterone injection once a week for several months at a time. I did two or three of these doctor prescribed cycles before I was 18 years old. My weight went from 126 in those photos to 160 or so when I was 18 years old.

The least I have weighed as an adult is 155 and the most is 225 lbs. when I was 29 and did another couple of cycles of D-bol, which my doctor gave me a prescription for. Seems stupid that D-bol is illegal today. As we all know, you can still get it, but you never really know if what your getting is legit or not. These days, I inject 200mg of testosterone cypionate once every 14 days because I have very low testosterone levels for a variety of reasons.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 09, 2013, 02:22:30 PM
was Fathers Day today here but i was at work...people (Fathers) get drunk here today


The gym looks really nice. I did not know Father's Day was on a different day from the U.S. in Germany. Next Sunday is Mother's day here. I am not sure when Father's Day is, but it comes after Mother's Day in the U.S.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 09, 2013, 02:36:43 PM
The gym looks really nice. I did not know Father's Day was on a different day from the U.S. in Germany. Next Sunday is Mother's day here. I am not sure when Father's Day is, but it comes after Mother's Day in the U.S.
JUNE 16
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 09, 2013, 05:52:47 PM
JUNE 16

I'd get a card for my son and my son-in-law for father's day since both of them are great fathers, but my wife is the greeting card queen and she undoubtedly already has this covered. My wife has asked me twice now what my plans are for Mother's day. I'd surely tell her if I had some. :-[
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 09, 2013, 06:01:03 PM
I'd get a card for my son and my son-in-law for father's day since both of them are great fathers, but my wife is the greeting card queen and she undoubtedly already has this covered. My wife has asked me twice now what my plans are for Mother's day. I'd surely tell her if I had some. :-[
Now Prime does she keep all the cards received over the years? I admire your effort over the years (no homo) you really got to have the desire to keep going so many years as you have.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 09, 2013, 07:06:27 PM
delts''

barbell fr press x3
side laterals single arm x3 25/30/35 x12/10/10
seated bent over rear raise x3
cable upright rows x3
db press x3

shrugs on hammer chest press machine lying version 2 plates x20,3 plates x20,4 plates x20
2 sets 45 lb plate per hand at sides x 20 pumped traps tonite rep wise

forearms weight rope twists ,reverse cable curl behind back x3

calves standing calf raise x5 160,180,200,220,240 stack version reps 20 high end to 12 lo...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 09, 2013, 07:09:14 PM
delts''

barbell fr press x3
side laterals single arm x3 25/30/35 x12/10/10
seated bent over rear raise x3
cable upright rows x3
db press x3

shrugs on hammer chest press machine lying version 2 plates x20,3 plates x20,4 plates x20
2 sets 45 lb plate per hand at sides x 20 pumped traps tonite rep wise

forearms weight rope twists ,reverse cable curl behind back x3

calves standing calf raise x5 160,180,200,220,240 stack version reps 20 high end to 12 lo...
Now nj how do you do shrugs on the hammer chest machine? Very interesting.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 09, 2013, 07:20:56 PM
Now nj how do you do shrugs on the hammer chest machine? Very interesting.

I was just wondering the same thing since I did shrugs on a Hammer ISO machine today. I did mine standing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 09, 2013, 07:42:33 PM
Now nj how do you do shrugs on the hammer chest machine? Very interesting.
describe.. machine pad long so your torso lays on it but u straddle it approach handles your faciing them they are seperated as usual hammer machine ,plates load  at sides. very nice easy way to shrug everyone usses more to shrug then whats intended for,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 09, 2013, 09:14:07 PM
describe.. machine pad long so your torso lays on it but u straddle it approach handles your faciing them they are seperated as usual hammer machine ,plates load  at sides. very nice easy way to shrug everyone usses more to shrug then whats intended for,,

Wow, I think you are describing the exercise exactly the way I do them on this machine. There used to be a shrug rack that looked kind of homemade in the gym which you loaded with plates on the sides. The grip was parallel which is really comfortable. Unfortunately, it seems to have vanished. The Hammer Strength ISO is great for shrugs. Today I went light on them because I am doing a trial run on more reps and less weight. When I want to use a lot of weight doing shrugs this equipment allows me to do that comfortably and I am still able to squeeze and pause at the top of the lift.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 09, 2013, 09:33:08 PM
Wednesday's workout, back:

ISO lateral front lat pull down,  4X12-6 @ 110 - 230
ISO row, 3X10-6 @ 90 - 120 added weight
Nebula low cable row, 2X90-140 added weight
Hammer reverse grip pull down, 2X10-8 @ 90 - 140
One arm dumbbell rows, 2X10-8 @ 45 - 55

I increased the reps and mostly kept the resistance the same.

Thursday's workout, Delts and Abs:

Nebula seated front press, 4X10-6 @ 60 - 130 added weight
Nautilus side lateral raises, 3X10-8 @ 70 - 110
Dumbbell bent lateral raises, 4X10 @ 27.5 - 10
ISO shrugs,  3X10 @ 90 -140 added weight
Cable upright rows, 3X10 @ 77
Abcoaster, 3 X 25 bodyweight
Nautilus cable crunch, 2X25-20 @ 70 - 80
Back raises or extensions, 2 X 10 @ BW
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 10, 2013, 01:17:11 AM
Wednesday's workout, back:

ISO lateral front lat pull down,  4X12-6 @ 110 - 230
ISO row, 3X10-6 @ 90 - 120 added weight
Nebula low cable row, 2X90-140 added weight
Hammer reverse grip pull down, 2X10-8 @ 90 - 140
One arm dumbbell rows, 2X10-8 @ 45 - 55

I increased the reps and mostly kept the resistance the same.

Thursday's workout, Delts and Abs:

Nebula seated front press, 4X10-6 @ 60 - 130 added weight
Nautilus side lateral raises, 3X10-8 @ 70 - 110
Dumbbell bent lateral raises, 4X10 @ 27.5 - 10
ISO shrugs,  3X10 @ 90 -140 added weight
Cable upright rows, 3X10 @ 77
Abcoaster, 3 X 25 bodyweight
Nautilus cable crunch, 2X25-20 @ 70 - 80
Back raises or extensions, 2 X 10 @ BW

good to see you are really motivated again..some nice tips here from the Guys here too. well i will blast my arms today...my big Guns.. ;D i have taken a liking to the machine curl in the Gym and use it to finish off my Biceps. Cable curls too and i have really just "rediscovered" the feeling of constant tension. Trained this really hot Blond yesterday..wanted to use the Vibrations plate.. kept looking into my eyes but like a true pro i carried on... ;D ;) funny how they all think these machines will do it all for them..  ::) still nice to watch them vibrate.. :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 10, 2013, 06:02:43 AM
Wow, I think you are describing the exercise exactly the way I do them on this machine. There used to be a shrug rack that looked kind of homemade in the gym which you loaded with plates on the sides. The grip was parallel which is really comfortable. Unfortunately, it seems to have vanished. The Hammer Strength ISO is great for shrugs. Today I went light on them because I am doing a trial run on more reps and less weight. When I want to use a lot of weight doing shrugs this equipment allows me to do that comfortably and I am still able to squeeze and pause at the top of the lift.
EXACTLY..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 10, 2013, 08:28:37 AM
Today i did...
Barbell curls(straight bar) 3x10 superset with
skull crushers 3x10
seated DB curls3x10 with
close grip push-ups on mat 3xmax
preacher curls using low pulley cable(ez bar attachment) with
cable pushdowns using rope 3x10

forearms i did not train...abs 3x max hanging knee raises 1 set forwards,1 set left/right to hit obliques/serratus...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 10, 2013, 03:42:31 PM
good to see you are really motivated again..some nice tips here from the Guys here too. well i will blast my arms today...my big Guns.. ;D i have taken a liking to the machine curl in the Gym and use it to finish off my Biceps. Cable curls too and i have really just "rediscovered" the feeling of constant tension. Trained this really hot Blond yesterday..wanted to use the Vibrations plate.. kept looking into my eyes but like a true pro i carried on... ;D ;) funny how they all think these machines will do it all for them..  ::) still nice to watch them vibrate.. :D

Yes all of you are being most helpful to me, not only with tips, but also with encouragement,

Before my wife and I moved to Oregon which was nearly 50 years ago, we belonged to the Beverly Hills Health Club. It was an interesting gym. The men's and women's gyms were completely segregated. A lot of actors and wanna be actors worked out there along with fat old producers and managers. The hand a line up of multiple vibrator machines which were especially popular with the senior set. The way they worked was you'd stand there with a wide belt around your waist and the machine would supposedly vibrate the fat off you. I don't think they worked, judging from the folks using them.

It surprises me that they are still in use at some clubs. I have not noticed any vibrator machines at the clubs I have been to in the Portland area.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 10, 2013, 04:01:13 PM
no.. Jay...but just for you all in German...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 10, 2013, 04:06:13 PM
so there is more exercises but you get the point...stick to weight training. However it is ok for physio. I love to watch women vibrate on this... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 10, 2013, 04:57:55 PM
so there is more exercises but you get the point...stick to weight training. However it is ok for physio. I love to watch women vibrate on this... ;D

Well I must say the it looks really weird. The lady using it doesn't look too happy. Perhaps, she's having certain sensations which are distracting her?  ;D

Like you suggest, I will stick to weight training. I use a "Tens" when I have lower back soreness. Rather than vibrate it away, it shocks it away. Each pulse causes the muscles to contract and relax in very short bursts.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 10, 2013, 05:09:36 PM
Friday, chest:

Weight 207

ISO lateral flat bench press, 4X10-2 @ 70 to 130 added weight
ISO lateral incline bench press, 4X10-6 @ 70 to 130 added weight
ISO lateral decline wide bench press, 3X10-6 @ 90 to 180 added weight. I also did one last set with no weight added @ 15 reps
Nautilus weight assisted dips, 3X10-6 @ 107 to 147
Nautilus pec deck, 3X12-8 @ 75 to 105
Nautilus super pullovers, 3x12-8 @ 90 to 120
Body Masters seated pec flys, 3X10 @ 60

I felt a little off today. My energy was low I think. Also, I worked out earlier than I prefer because I dropped my wife off for physical therapy and hit the gym while the PT's worked on her. My preferred workout time is after 2:30 p.m. Anyway, if you compare today's workout with last Friday, the resistance in about the same, but I have added reps. I did get a good pump.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 10, 2013, 06:00:18 PM
Friday, chest:

Weight 207

ISO lateral flat bench press, 4X10-2 @ 70 to 130 added weight
ISO lateral incline bench press, 4X10-6 @ 70 to 130 added weight
ISO lateral decline wide bench press, 3X10-6 @ 90 to 180 added weight. I also did one last set with no weight added @ 15 reps
Nautilus weight assisted dips, 3X10-6 @ 107 to 147
Nautilus pec deck, 3X12-8 @ 75 to 105
Nautilus super pullovers, 3x12-8 @ 90 to 120
Body Masters seated pec flys, 3X10 @ 60

I felt a little off today. My energy was low I think. Also, I worked out earlier than I prefer because I dropped my wife off for physical therapy and hit the gym while the PT's worked on her. My preferred workout time is after 2:30 p.m. Anyway, if you compare today's workout with last Friday, the resistance in about the same, but I have added reps. I did get a good pump.
Jay you have my full respect, you are a good husband. I like your training posts with Steve. Steve would be an excellent trainer not just because of his knowledge but because he is very humble ..knows so much but never arrogant.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 11, 2013, 04:31:31 AM
Today is a rest and relaxation day..so i think i will go to the local swimming baths and hit the whirlpool later. itīs not warm enough to swim outside yet, although last year you could at this time.. Karen and some of the Americanos here can no doubt swim year round outside..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 11, 2013, 06:51:26 AM
Ran 5 miles yesterday then foolish drank 4 beers. I've been fooling around with the weights for  around 7 months due to illness and injury. Feeling good now and it's time to get serious. Doing this workout today.

Power cleans and jerks 3 x 3 reps then 1x1 (Power)
Squats 2 x 8 then 1 x 1 (leg- I try to go deep)
barbell lunge 1 x 8         (leg)
standing leg curl 2 x 12   (leg)
Dumbbell flat bench 2 x 8  (chest-I go as low as I can and touch the bells at the top)
Pull ups 2 x max               (lats-dead hang trying to touch upper chest)      
low cable row 2 x 12          (lats- full stretch then keeping the upper back vertical at completion)
military press 2 x 8           (delts- all the way down to upper chest. I clean the barbell off floor to start)
standing dumbbell laterals 2 x 10  (delts-I try to reasonably keep arms extended )
dips with weight 2 x 8             (triceps chest- I go very deep. I never got anything from the standard half reps you see)
barbell curl 2 x 10                   (bicep-I'm a little sloppy on these but I'm trying)
hanging leg raise 2 x max        (ab)
ab pulley 2 x 25                       (ab)
standing calf 2 x 15                   (calf-good stretch and all the way up)
weighted back extensions 2 x 15 (lower back-these always makes my lower back feel great)
grip and neck work                    ( I use ivanko grippers or iron mind)

I'm starting with moderate weights hoping to add roughly 5 lbs an exercise every workout. At 6 workouts I should max out then I will change the routine to a split or just change the exercises. Trying to do this workout twice week with running. So maybe 3 days off between work outs. I work out without any HRT or steroids.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 11, 2013, 07:21:25 AM
jay and old timer cool great workouts ...

legs boyz and girlz,,,

leg press x4 warmed  then 4 plates x12,5 plates x12,6 plates x10,7 x10
hack squats x3 3 plates x12,4 plates x10,5 plates x9
fun part here 45 plate per hand lunges up flight steps every other step up, down,up ,down x2 probably 15 steps up with skip then 20 down can't skip step down will cause death lol....
leg extensions x3 220.235.250 x12

hams dumbell stiff legged on stand 55/60/70 lb dumbells x12
lying leg 140/150/155

calves seated calf raise x4 3 plates up to 4 plates at final set 10/20 rep scale light to heaviest weight..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 11, 2013, 07:23:17 AM
yeah oldtimer1 is Rich and i know him from Raw iron forum...good guy and knows lots...and lots. great guy to be on here too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 11, 2013, 07:53:22 AM
yeah oldtimer1 is Rich and i know him from Raw iron forum...good guy and knows lots...and lots. great guy to be on here too.
great,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 11, 2013, 07:56:27 AM
this is what i like to do for stress relief.. i trained with a man some years ago who was in Japan and trained with Saito Sensei in Iwama..Reinhard Meyer Resse Germany. Sadly passed away but was a big influence on my technique. i learned the short,sharp body movements and ken and jo. I still do the Kata i learned from him. He died of cancer and asked me and a couple of others to go to Japan with him because he knew it was his last time. I still have my Ken, jo, Tanto.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 11, 2013, 01:30:28 PM
I wish I could do some training with a sword. I just don't know what Japanese art would cover that? I just recently started to develop an interest in swords. A soldier back in the day really had it brutal. They always depict in movies a little stab wound from a sword. I have seen videos of guys cutting in half a 200 pound plus size pig with a sword. Again, war is brutal now and war back in the sword days was also brutal. I was about to buy a real sword not a decorative junk metal one but I heard they are very dangerous to swing around. A misguided tap from a razor sword can cause a serious or fatal injury. I guess this sounds bizarre from a guy that has carried a handgun for 30 years and owns other modern weapons. Just something about weapons like swords, spears, and bows that brings me back in time. I think many military guys can understand that.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 11, 2013, 02:21:45 PM
I wish I could do some training with a sword. I just don't know what Japanese art would cover that? I just recently started to develop an interest in swords. A soldier back in the day really had it brutal. They always depict in movies a little stab wound from a sword. I have seen videos of guys cutting in half a 200 pound plus size pig with a sword. Again, war is brutal now and war back in the sword days was also brutal. I was about to buy a real sword not a decorative junk metal one but I heard they are very dangerous to swing around. A misguided tap from a razor sword can cause a serious or fatal injury. I guess this sounds bizarre from a guy that has carried a handgun for 30 years and owns other modern weapons. Just something about weapons like swords, spears, and bows that brings me back in time. I think many military guys can understand that.
very true..i like Aikido for itīs calmness and dynamic sphere. I like the joint locks and pins. It always intrested me. I like the fact you can divert energy and..use balance to your advantage.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 11, 2013, 07:08:07 PM
Is Aikido the martial art that also does sword practice? I would be interested in that art. It does not sound like it's not an easy art to learn. Where I live in NJ it's rare to find a school in that art. Brazilian jiu jitsu schools are everywhere in every town.







Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 12, 2013, 02:34:51 AM
Is Aikido the martial art that also does sword practice? I would be interested in that art. It does not sound like it's not an easy art to learn. Where I live in NJ it's rare to find a school in that art. Brazilian jiu jitsu schools are everywhere in every town.




well all Aikido comes from Daito Ryu Aiki Jutsu.. the movement are deprived from the sword. All Aikido principles come from this. Each school has itīs own direction, Iwama Ryu: more ken , jo kata... Yoshinkan Aikido: more emphasis on groundschool techniques(taught to the Tokyo Police) indeed Gozo Shioda andwas known to be hard, there is a Japanese 6th Dan in München i have only spoke to him.
He was an Uchi Deshi from Shioda(direct student) told me some intresting things. Tomiki Aikido is also intresting with "Randori" from Judo..Tomiki was a judo master too. His style is very realistic and not like the "Aiki kai" dancing you see now..schools such as from master Tohei with more emphasis on "Ki"...my tip... Yoshinkan Aikido...the closest to Daito Ryu, i love the wrist locks and kote-gaeshi..and if you want Kata, Iwama Ryu which is what i learned. There is more schools which i tried too, Tendo Ryu from Shimizu sensei which i liked but more round movements and Dynamic.(he comes to Germany a lot and i was at a seminar and met him) He was the last Uchi Deshi from the founder of Aikido..


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 12, 2013, 02:35:44 AM
ooops.... ;D well you can still read it...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 12, 2013, 06:01:24 AM
well i will go now for a run... might just do some Tabata sprints in the woods... got a great app in my phone which is a hit cardio timer. I like more a 45min steady run but just to shake it up....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 12, 2013, 08:25:08 AM
donny,,mrn,,, knows little exercises for calves for instance front shin rolls for tibialias definition,,and some rear calf ,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 12, 2013, 09:53:03 AM
donny,,mrn,,, knows little exercises for calves for instance front shin rolls for tibialias definition,,and some rear calf ,,,,
yeah knows a lot...looking great steve.. well i was running was weird.. sun and then like small hail stones.. i mean at this time of year...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 12, 2013, 09:45:23 PM
tonight:

leg extensions  5 sets     


squats  4 sets
   


romanian deadlifts   4 sets


seated leg curls   4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 12, 2013, 10:08:59 PM
Been a little distracted by some posts in a different forum yesterday and today. But I did get my Saturday quad and calves workout in.

Weight 208

Nautilus leg extensions, 5X15-6 @ 80 to 160
Standing one legged calf raises, 4X15-8 @ 160 to 220
Leg press, 6X20-8 @ machine weight to 500 added weight
alternating with
Leg press calf raises, 5X10-6 @ 100 to 300 added weight
Machine hack squats, 4X10-6 @ 70 to 115 added weight
Seated calf raises, 3X15-8 @ 55 to 115

As you will notice, I added sets and reps to these exercises. I think it is making a difference. My pec muscles were tight the next day as have been my quads and calves. Whoopi! I didn't feel a thing in my quads a week ago after working them. Look out Steve, my short skinny legs are going to look like yours pretty soon! I even have small/thin ankles like you do.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 12, 2013, 10:16:56 PM
Donny,

Thanks for your kind words in Tbombz thread. I tend to get myself into some shit every now and again. This would be one of those times. I should know better than to cave to the punks on Getbig. But even at my grand old age, I can be stupid at times. I wasn't real pleased to have the before photo I posted here photo-shopped to make me look like some old schmoe ogling Tbombz....please, give me a break!   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 13, 2013, 01:41:57 AM
Donny,

Thanks for your kind words in Tbombz thread. I tend to get myself into some shit every now and again. This would be one of those times. I should know better than to cave to the punks on Getbig. But even at my grand old age, I can be stupid at times. I wasn't real pleased to have the before photo I posted here photo-shopped to make me look like some old schmoe ogling Tbombz....please, give me a break!   
donīt worry about the fools on here.. I just really write to people like yourself and all on this thread and a few others. I also like to have a laugh but some here really go over the Top.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 13, 2013, 01:48:12 AM
Chest and back yesterday...

Parallel bar Dips 4xmax superset with sternum chins 4xmax
Barbell rows 4x8-10 superset with push ups using push up bars..4xmax
Flat flys 3x10-12
DB shrugs 4x12-15

finished with hanging knee raises off my chinning bar 3xmax.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 13, 2013, 06:18:22 AM
Donny,

Thanks for your kind words in Tbombz thread. I tend to get myself into some shit every now and again. This would be one of those times. I should know better than to cave to the punks on Getbig. But even at my grand old age, I can be stupid at times. I wasn't real pleased to have the before photo I posted here photo-shopped to make me look like some old schmoe ogling Tbombz....please, give me a break!   
yeah gossip board could really get u in hot water,,i read that thread u did not come off so bad,,that'boy'is something else ,I will leave it at that,,your looked at here this thread as A POSITIVE POSTER,,,yeah I have pretty small joints which helps in illusion of bigger size,leg wise tho u can see from rear hamstrings how big my legs are they look like a 'horse'leg lol,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 13, 2013, 07:03:53 AM
hey guys......hope all is well.


just wanted to let you all know that i just returned from california........traine d at the mecca.....ate at the firehouse and saw many bbers and spoke with ironman magazine's jerry brainum........also talked with cormier, strydom, charles glass and world harris.....all good blokes.



jerry brainum and i talked about the old days at the original gold's gym........jerry was great.....he told me that zane would take very short workouts in the offseason.......just a few sets and then leave the gym......but when he was training for the olympia, he would increase his sets and really focus on training......he said zane was incredible in person......pics don't do the guy justice......jerry said that if you think zane look hard and in shape in photos.....you should have seen him in person!


he also said that the guys from the 70s trained with more moderate poundages and more emphasis on mind/muscle connection.


the mecca was busy......still a lot of enthusiasm there and without a doubt the best equipment around.


as always....you can get some excellent bbing food at the firehouse.


strydom was looking big and lean......he mentioned competing in the next masters show.......he told me he is 54 but he could pass for 45.


all in all.....fantastic trip and great to swim in the ocean and enjoy the california weather.



guys.....if you haven't been to gold's venice......you must get there!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 13, 2013, 07:08:26 AM
This eve i will work chest:


incline smith presses    4 sets

incline flyes   4 sets


cable crossovers  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 13, 2013, 08:21:35 AM
WILLIE/GEORGE GREAT READ,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 13, 2013, 09:17:48 AM
WILLIE/GEORGE GREAT READ,,,
x2
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 13, 2013, 12:20:17 PM
yeah gossip board could really get u in hot water,,i read that thread u did not come off so bad,,that'boy'is something else ,I will leave it at that,,your looked at here this thread as A POSITIVE POSTER,,,yeah I have pretty small joints which helps in illusion of bigger size,leg wise tho u can see from rear hamstrings how big my legs are they look like a 'horse'leg lol,,,

Do you have trouble finding trousers that fit?

All my joints aren't small, just my ankles for some reason. My wrists measure 9" in circumference. I have to buy extra large watch bands. My ring finger is a size 13 or 14 which is huge and that's not because of arthritis. They have always been this big. I had to pay extra for my wedding band when we first bought our rings. Fortunately, my fingers are also long so they don't look like bear paws. LOL. The fact that my legs are comparatively short given the length of my torso and arms, one would think they'd be really thick, but they aren't. I always wished that they were. I remember once getting my quads up to 27" and thinking I was "the shit" because of this.

Taylor is fucked up! He's just a kid though despite being 24 years old. Hopefully, he will out grow this nonsense. I think he needs help. He seems to have some serious issues going on. Sometimes it seems as if a lot of young folks are taking much longer to mature than they once did. Of course, this could have something to do with parents who don't teach them to be responsible people. Fortunately, our kids were independent and responsible adults by the time they were Taylor's age. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 13, 2013, 12:25:40 PM
hey guys......hope all is well.


just wanted to let you all know that i just returned from california........traine d at the mecca.....ate at the firehouse and saw many bbers and spoke with ironman magazine's jerry brainum........also talked with cormier, strydom, charles glass and world harris.....all good blokes.



jerry brainum and i talked about the old days at the original gold's gym........jerry was great.....he told me that zane would take very short workouts in the offseason.......just a few sets and then leave the gym......but when he was training for the olympia, he would increase his sets and really focus on training......he said zane was incredible in person......pics don't do the guy justice......jerry said that if you think zane look hard and in shape in photos.....you should have seen him in person!


he also said that the guys from the 70s trained with more moderate poundages and more emphasis on mind/muscle connection.


the mecca was busy......still a lot of enthusiasm there and without a doubt the best equipment around.


as always....you can get some excellent bbing food at the firehouse.


strydom was looking big and lean......he mentioned competing in the next masters show.......he told me he is 54 but he could pass for 45.


all in all.....fantastic trip and great to swim in the ocean and enjoy the california weather.



guys.....if you haven't been to gold's venice......you must get there!!!

What makes me the most envious of your trip is not you visiting Gold's Gym in Venice Beach, it is your swimming in the ocean. I have years and years of fond memories of both Venice and State Beach. The warm sun and the mild temperature of the southern Pacific Ocean is just a distant memory these days, one which I could easily embrace again. When I was 18 years old, I moved to Santa Monica and lived one block from the ocean. That was the life!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 13, 2013, 12:31:10 PM
Do you have trouble finding trousers that fit?

All my joints aren't small, just my ankles for some reason. My wrists measure 9" in circumference. I have to buy extra large watch bands. My ring finger is a size 13 or 14 which is huge and that's not because of arthritis. They have always been this big. I had to pay extra for my wedding band when we first bought our rings. Fortunately, my fingers are also long so they don't look like bear paws. LOL. The fact that my legs are comparatively short given the length of my torso and arms, one would think they'd be really thick, but they aren't. I always wished that they were. I remember once getting my quads up to 27" and thinking I was "the shit" because of this.

Taylor is fucked up! He's just a kid though despite being 24 years old. Hopefully, he will out grow this nonsense. I think he needs help. He seems to have some serious issues going on. Sometimes it seems as if a lot of young folks are taking much longer to mature than they once did. Of course, this could have something to do with parents who don't teach them to be responsible people. Fortunately, our kids were independent and responsible adults by the time they were Taylor's age. 
PANTS ARE INSANE TO SHOP FOR I HAVE TO TRY ON EVERY THING,SUIT PANTS TAILORED,KHAKIS I GO THROUGH SO MANY SIZES IN DRESSING ROOM,JEANS HAVE TO BE LOOSE ,WRIST ARE SMALL TOO BETWEEN 6 TO 7 AGAIN FORARMS ARE LIKE CALVES PRETTY THICK,MUSCULAR ,VEINS..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 13, 2013, 12:31:39 PM
What makes me the most envious of your trip is not you visiting Gold's Gym in Venice Beach, it is your swimming in the ocean. I have years and years of fond memories of both Venice and State Beach. The warm sun and the mild temperature of the southern Pacific Ocean is just a distant memory these days, one which I could easily embrace again. When I was 18 years old, I moved to Santa Monica and lived one block from the ocean. That was the life!
did you train at the original gold's gym?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 13, 2013, 01:01:27 PM
You boys and Karen are lucky ...sun sand...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 13, 2013, 02:14:22 PM
did you train at the original gold's gym?

Nope. But I did occasionally watch the folks who trained out front on the beach. I trained at a Vic Tanny's for awhile. Mostly I trained with my mentor and friend Walt in his home gym which he'd set up in his garage. My wife and I belonged to the Beverly Hills Health Club where I trained and she did something, not too sure what.  :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 13, 2013, 06:06:32 PM
You boys and Karen are lucky ...sun sand...
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Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 13, 2013, 06:35:06 PM
You boys and Karen are lucky ...sun sand...
It depends.  I love the sun and the sand but when its so hot in summer that you can't walk on the sand or go out between the hours of 8am -5pm then its not so lucky to live here.  The winter and spring seasons are the best if you want to enjoy the sun and sand/beaches.  My besties daughter caught a baby croc at school the other day.  Apparently she looked out the classroom and saw it in the school grounds.  I would post a pic but I don't want some asshole coming in here and taking the pic and posting it in gossip and opinions.  I will post it on my facebook for my facebook friends on here. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 13, 2013, 07:28:21 PM
nice karen,,,,good to see u back..


chest still getting there lol;;;
fdb press 40 lol/55/60/65 for 5 then drop to 50 8 more enjoy the drops,,seems each wk 5 lb heavier db ,,better than 25/30's :-\
hammer press sit up plate loaded x3 last set got to 2 plates and 25 per side for hard 8,,happy there,,was at a single 45 per side back post injury,,
inc press x3
superset cable crossovers and pushups feet elevated torso pitched down 10/10 x2 nice pump here very full...
seated chest stack loaded type x2 with dips as many as i could do better than 'zero'getting stronger dip wise

tris
superset pushdown x3 with cable kickbacks just cable to hold no attachment
reverse pushdowns x3 with seated extension machine

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 13, 2013, 07:47:26 PM
I am not back really, until I start posting up my training logs.  To be honest, haven't trained this week.  I have had awful pms which means an incredibly swollen and sore tummy.  I had to even hold my tummy while I bent over to put groceries into my shopping trolly.  Now I have my period and I feel very depressed. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 13, 2013, 07:48:41 PM
I am not back really, until I start posting up my training logs.  To be honest, haven't trained this week.  I have had awful pms which means an incredibly swollen and sore tummy.  I had to even hold my tummy while I bent over to put groceries into my shopping trolly.  Now I have my period and I feel very depressed. 
sorry to hear,,,goes away natural cycle  ;),,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 13, 2013, 08:06:22 PM
sorry to hear,,,goes away natural cycle  ;),,,
Yeah I know Steve.  I am being such a sook, I know.   :-[  Anyway I am going to force myself to do some cardio and abs today. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 14, 2013, 12:13:18 AM
I am not back really, until I start posting up my training logs.  To be honest, haven't trained this week.  I have had awful pms which means an incredibly swollen and sore tummy.  I had to even hold my tummy while I bent over to put groceries into my shopping trolly.  Now I have my period and I feel very depressed. 

And to think some very confused men think they were born women!

There have been three women in my life with who I have some concept of what being a woman entails and it ain't no picnic. My mom had hormonal issues for years after I was born which negatively affected her menstrual cycles and her mood. My wife went through early menopause right after our daughter was born when my wife was only 34 years old. This resulted in gestational diabetes which has destroyed her health.  My daughter inherited my wife's female issues. She had cystic ovarian disease which ended up with her having a hysterectomy before she was in her mid thirties. Currently, she is carefully monitoring her diet because she is a prime candidate for type II diabetes.  And no, she is not obese.

Being a woman is no picnic. Being a man has it's issues too.

My unprofessional assessment is that regardless of whether you are a man or a woman, if you take up exercise, your health and wellbeing will be the better for it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 14, 2013, 01:09:17 AM
It depends.  I love the sun and the sand but when its so hot in summer that you can't walk on the sand or go out between the hours of 8am -5pm then its not so lucky to live here.  The winter and spring seasons are the best if you want to enjoy the sun and sand/beaches.  My besties daughter caught a baby croc at school the other day.  Apparently she looked out the classroom and saw it in the school grounds.  I would post a pic but I don't want some asshole coming in here and taking the pic and posting it in gossip and opinions.  I will post it on my facebook for my facebook friends on here. 
sort of freaks me out crocs and stuff...i mean they are meat eaters :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 14, 2013, 01:16:20 AM
nice karen,,,,good to see u back..


chest still getting there lol;;;
fdb press 40 lol/55/60/65 for 5 then drop to 50 8 more enjoy the drops,,seems each wk 5 lb heavier db ,,better than 25/30's :-\
hammer press sit up plate loaded x3 last set got to 2 plates and 25 per side for hard 8,,happy there,,was at a single 45 per side back post injury,,
inc press x3
superset cable crossovers and pushups feet elevated torso pitched down 10/10 x2 nice pump here very full...
seated chest stack loaded type x2 with dips as many as i could do better than 'zero'getting stronger dip wise

tris
superset pushdown x3 with cable kickbacks just cable to hold no attachment
reverse pushdowns x3 with seated extension machine

abs
Hardcore Steve ;D like i wrote before i could not pump tris so much like you do after chest..

I will do legs Today...
leg extensions 3x15 superset with
Front squats 3x10
leg curls 3x15 Superset with
Deadlifts(stiff legged)3x10-15
Leg press 3x10-15 to finish .. and will superset with calfes 4-5 sets 15 to 20 reps.(saves time)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 14, 2013, 07:30:39 AM
tonight will be bis and tris.....along with 20 minutes on the treadmill.



alternate db curls    4 sets


hammer strength preacher   4 sets


kneeling cable extensions   3 sets


machine dips   3 sets


lying db extensions  2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 14, 2013, 12:44:33 PM
tonight will be bis and tris.....along with 20 minutes on the treadmill.



alternate db curls    4 sets


hammer strength preacher   4 sets


kneeling cable extensions   3 sets


machine dips   3 sets


lying db extensions  2 sets
looks great George...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 14, 2013, 01:49:56 PM
Monday - Triceps, Biceps and Forearms:

Seated alternate dumbbell curls, 4X12-6 @ 22.5 to 40lbs
Cable triceps press downs, 4X12-8 @ 104 to 145
Standing cable EZ curls, 4X12-6 @ 77 to 118
Seated dumbbell triceps extensions, 3X10-8 @ 40 to 60
Nautilus multi biceps, 3X13-9 @ 55 to 75
Nautilus seated parallel triceps press downs, 3X15-10 @ 100 to 120 (similar movement to dips)
Nautilus wrist curls, 3X12-8 @ 70 to 90
Cable reverse EZ curls, 3X10-6 @ 64-91
Standing cable biceps pulls, 2X12-10 @ 22 to 37 each side

Ended up with a good pump and I could actually see that I have biceps. This is why I like the standing cable biceps curls.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 14, 2013, 01:54:10 PM
Monday - Triceps, Biceps and Forearms:

Seated alternate dumbbell curls, 4X12-6 @ 22.5 to 40lbs
Cable triceps press downs, 4X12-8 @ 104 to 145
Standing cable EZ curls, 4X12-6 @ 77 to 118
Seated dumbbell triceps extensions, 3X10-8 @ 40 to 60
Nautilus multi biceps, 3X13-9 @ 55 to 75
Nautilus seated parallel triceps press downs, 3X15-10 @ 100 to 120 (similar movement to dips)
Nautilus wrist curls, 3X12-8 @ 70 to 90
Cable reverse EZ curls, 3X10-6 @ 64-91
Standing cable biceps pulls, 2X12-10 @ 22 to 37 each side

Ended up with a good pump and I could actually see that I have biceps. This is why I like the standing cable biceps curls.

I LIKE CABLE CURLS BOTTOM UP OR SIGLE ARM BOTTOM UP,I HATE THE VERSION I GET NOTHING FROM THEM WHEN U STAND AND STRETCH ARMS APART AND THEN PULL CABLES IN LIKE YOUR DOING A FDB POSE,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 14, 2013, 02:01:11 PM
Monday - Triceps, Biceps and Forearms:

Seated alternate dumbbell curls, 4X12-6 @ 22.5 to 40lbs
Cable triceps press downs, 4X12-8 @ 104 to 145
Standing cable EZ curls, 4X12-6 @ 77 to 118
Seated dumbbell triceps extensions, 3X10-8 @ 40 to 60
Nautilus multi biceps, 3X13-9 @ 55 to 75
Nautilus seated parallel triceps press downs, 3X15-10 @ 100 to 120 (similar movement to dips)
Nautilus wrist curls, 3X12-8 @ 70 to 90
Cable reverse EZ curls, 3X10-6 @ 64-91
Standing cable biceps pulls, 2X12-10 @ 22 to 37 each side

Ended up with a good pump and I could actually see that I have biceps. This is why I like the standing cable biceps curls.

How many of these sets were to failure Prime? Not being a ass but looks you are just doing a bunch sets what does that do = nothing. Why not do 100 on each exercise. You have to go to failure to progress there is no way you went to failure on all those sets maybe you just like training. I know you are older so maybe just the exercise is the reason not sure. But props for still training at your age.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 14, 2013, 06:31:56 PM
How many of these sets were to failure Prime? Not being a ass but looks you are just doing a bunch sets what does that do = nothing. Why not do 100 on each exercise. You have to go to failure to progress there is no way you went to failure on all those sets maybe you just like training. I know you are older so maybe just the exercise is the reason not sure. But props for still training at your age.

Good point. The answer is none. I train alone, so going to failure might present a problem. My self defense is that I do train to near failure on some exercises. The fact is that this is only week three of me actually working out again after a long dry spell. I am still trying to get my "sea legs," as it were.

I have already modified this workout to include more sets and reps then it calls for. I done this routine before with low reps and high resistance with decent results for building mass in some areas. Currently I weigh around 208 @ 5'10.5". There is too much fat on my middle and elsewhere. More than anything, I lack definition. I eat healthy without being obsessive about it. Cardio bores me to tears. I'd run outside now that the weather is good, but whenever I run, I seem to end up with injuries so, I have stopped doing that.

I know, I know, this seems like I am just making a lot of fucking excuses and maybe I am. My main goal right now is to get back into a routine where training is a part of my daily life. I do want results but more than that, I just want to be hitting the gym each day instead of vegetating at home. I have no plans to enter a senior bodybuilding contest anytime soon.  ;D

Thanks for the feedback. It's all good stuff and I really appreciate it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 14, 2013, 06:48:49 PM
Good point. The answer is none. I train alone, so going to failure might present a problem. My self defense is that I do train to near failure on some exercises. The fact is that this is only week three of me actually working out again after a long dry spell. I am still trying to get my "sea legs," as it were.

I have already modified this workout to include more sets and reps then it calls for. I done this routine before with low reps and high resistance with decent results for building mass in some areas. Currently I weigh around 208 @ 5'10.5". There is too much fat on my middle and elsewhere. More than anything, I lack definition. I eat healthy without being obsessive about it. Cardio bores me to tears. I'd run outside now that the weather is good, but whenever I run, I seem to end up with injuries so, I have stopped doing that.

I know, I know, this seems like I am just making a lot of fucking excuses and maybe I am. My main goal right now is to get back into a routine where training is a part of my daily life. I do want results but more than that, I just want to be hitting the gym each day instead of vegetating at home. I have no plans to enter a senior bodybuilding contest anytime soon.  ;D

Thanks for the feedback. It's all good stuff and I really appreciate it.
Sorry Prime I wasn't being critical but just asking a question. I commend you on continuing training at your age and still in decent shape. I hate cardio as well lucky for me I have high metabolism so I never needed much of that just diet, before contests I just would fast walk in a park about 3 times a week it worked for me. I have only used a treadmill like twice in my life hated it. Continue the work man.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 14, 2013, 10:11:05 PM
Sorry Prime I wasn't being critical but just asking a question. I commend you on continuing training at your age and still in decent shape. I hate cardio as well lucky for me I have high metabolism so I never needed much of that just diet, before contests I just would fast walk in a park about 3 times a week it worked for me. I have only used a treadmill like twice in my life hated it. Continue the work man.

Hey man, I am a big guy who can take and probably needs constructive criticism when it comes to my workout routines. I really appreciate that you took the time to analyze my current routine an offer your suggestions for improvement.

I thought some more about your question regarding working to failure. It isn't clear to me whether you think I should up the weight or the reps because either can get one to failure. One thing I try to accomplish is to be just shy of total exhaustion at the end of my routine. I think this helps me want to come back tomorrow to do some more.

In my dreams, I would love to be the most fit and amazingly built old dude, who could win a national masters bodybuilding contest. Some part of what motivates me is just this. But I am also a realist. I have never had the genetics to get to contest level. I am proud of myself for achieving what I have throughout my life in terms of physical fitness and the real reward is my really excellent health.

I am also a high energy person. For most of my life my metabolism was so fast that I could eat anything I wanted and still gaining weight was a problem. As most people age, their metabolism slows some. I am more conscious of what I eat today then ever before. Tonight's dinner was a lean 1/3 lb. hamburger, a cup of cottage cheese and a sliced tomato. I don't eat this clean all the time. In fact I just ate two harvest cookies from the local market. These days, I am relying on Costco's Premium protein drinks to insure I am getting enough protein each day. These drinks have but one gram of sugar, 160 calories and 30 grams of protein. Still, I have gained a pound or two in the last two weeks. When I work out, I always gain weight. When I veg out, I lose weight. I think my metabolism is screwed up!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 15, 2013, 12:16:29 AM
Hey man, I am a big guy who can take and probably needs constructive criticism when it comes to my workout routines. I really appreciate that you took the time to analyze my current routine an offer your suggestions for improvement.

I thought some more about your question regarding working to failure. It isn't clear to me whether you think I should up the weight or the reps because either can get one to failure. One thing I try to accomplish is to be just shy of total exhaustion at the end of my routine. I think this helps me want to come back tomorrow to do some more.

In my dreams, I would love to be the most fit and amazingly built old dude, who could win a national masters bodybuilding contest. Some part of what motivates me is just this. But I am also a realist. I have never had the genetics to get to contest level. I am proud of myself for achieving what I have throughout my life in terms of physical fitness and the real reward is my really excellent health.

I am also a high energy person. For most of my life my metabolism was so fast that I could eat anything I wanted and still gaining weight was a problem. As most people age, their metabolism slows some. I am more conscious of what I eat today then ever before. Tonight's dinner was a lean 1/3 lb. hamburger, a cup of cottage cheese and a sliced tomato. I don't eat this clean all the time. In fact I just ate two harvest cookies from the local market. These days, I am relying on Costco's Premium protein drinks to insure I am getting enough protein each day. These drinks have but one gram of sugar, 160 calories and 30 grams of protein. Still, I have gained a pound or two in the last two weeks. When I work out, I always gain weight. When I veg out, I lose weight. I think my metabolism is screwed up!
Just looking at the arm workout I would suggest cutting back on the number of exercises to maybe two each for biceps and triceps and going with heavier weight and at least one set to failure on each up the intensity lower the volume . Diet seems ok with your metabolism.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 15, 2013, 01:09:30 AM
I LIKE CABLE CURLS BOTTOM UP OR SIGLE ARM BOTTOM UP,I HATE THE VERSION I GET NOTHING FROM THEM WHEN U STAND AND STRETCH ARMS APART AND THEN PULL CABLES IN LIKE YOUR DOING A FDB POSE,,
yes i like them too steve... the other way standing up arms apart i find not very good.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 15, 2013, 01:12:32 AM
Good point. The answer is none. I train alone, so going to failure might present a problem. My self defense is that I do train to near failure on some exercises. The fact is that this is only week three of me actually working out again after a long dry spell. I am still trying to get my "sea legs," as it were.

I have already modified this workout to include more sets and reps then it calls for. I done this routine before with low reps and high resistance with decent results for building mass in some areas. Currently I weigh around 208 @ 5'10.5". There is too much fat on my middle and elsewhere. More than anything, I lack definition. I eat healthy without being obsessive about it. Cardio bores me to tears. I'd run outside now that the weather is good, but whenever I run, I seem to end up with injuries so, I have stopped doing that.

I know, I know, this seems like I am just making a lot of fucking excuses and maybe I am. My main goal right now is to get back into a routine where training is a part of my daily life. I do want results but more than that, I just want to be hitting the gym each day instead of vegetating at home. I have no plans to enter a senior bodybuilding contest anytime soon.  ;D

Thanks for the feedback. It's all good stuff and I really appreciate it.
you do not need to train to failure to get results and you do not need to on every set. Bodybuilders like B Pearl did many sets and not to complete failure. I suspect this is the type of training you are doing Jay.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 15, 2013, 01:22:00 AM
Sorry Prime I wasn't being critical but just asking a question. I commend you on continuing training at your age and still in decent shape. I hate cardio as well lucky for me I have high metabolism so I never needed much of that just diet, before contests I just would fast walk in a park about 3 times a week it worked for me. I have only used a treadmill like twice in my life hated it. Continue the work man.
well you are lucky .. i have always believed in doing cardio. If i eat correctly i stay lean but my condition will suffer without cardio. I think if people did an interval programme on a bike 2x a week for 30mins they would benefit greatly. treadmill is a chore for most and that is why i run outside.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 15, 2013, 01:32:14 AM
well you are lucky .. i have always believed in doing cardio. If i eat correctly i stay lean but my condition will suffer without cardio. I think if people did an interval programme on a bike 2x a week for 30mins they would benefit greatly. treadmill is a chore for most and that is why i run outside.
Agreed. I have just always had a high metabolism never needed much cardio. I hate it but as you say when I do it its outdoors, treadmills suck.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 15, 2013, 02:34:15 AM
Agreed. I have just always had a high metabolism never needed much cardio. I hate it but as you say when I do it its outdoors, treadmills suck.
yeah..lucky you.. i did 30 mins Interval on the bike yesterday, got my pumper working i can tell you.. i do like outdoors better. Just where i live winter can be fairly bad, i still run outside but when itīs icy you canīt really run proper. Today i will maybe go for a long fast walk then tommorrow another interval programme after shoulders and arms...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 15, 2013, 05:37:59 AM
I walked indoors yesterday on the treadmill and should have done it outdoors instead.  It was so stuffy in the gym and when I walked outside to go to my car the fresh air was nice. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 15, 2013, 08:35:55 AM
I walked indoors yesterday on the treadmill and should have done it outdoors instead.  It was so stuffy in the gym and when I walked outside to go to my car the fresh air was nice. 
Yea thats ok but I think best to get out and do some fast walking easier on the joints and a good source of Vitamin D promotes calcium for the bones especially needed by women.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 15, 2013, 11:56:53 AM
last night when i was training bis, i focused on the static hold.......man......what a burn!!

i used only 35 pound dumbbells.......but held the contraction for a good 2 seconds......makes a big difference.......i don't get that kind of deep burn in the muscle when i use say 50-55 pound dumbbells.


quality not quantity!!!


my 2 cents.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 15, 2013, 12:02:17 PM
last night when i was training bis, i focused on the static hold.......man......what a burn!!

i used only 35 pound dumbbells.......but held the contraction for a good 2 seconds......makes a big difference.......i don't get that kind of deep burn in the muscle when i use say 50-55 pound dumbbells.


quality not quantity!!!


my 2 cents.
Isometrics/statics were used quite a few years ago and I agree it's a way to increase intensity but should not be used all the time but good to hear seems it might give you a boost.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 15, 2013, 12:14:24 PM
i prefer it over hoisting and herking and jerking poundage.......to me that is ego training......rather train my muscles.....not my ego.



i also hold my leg extensions in the fully contracted position for 2-3 seconds.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 15, 2013, 12:16:29 PM
i prefer it over hoisting and herking and jerking poundage.......to me that is ego training......rather train my muscles.....not my ego.



i also hold my leg extensions in the fully contracted position for 2-3 seconds.
Thats good cheating movements will cause injury.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 15, 2013, 01:09:55 PM
i prefer it over hoisting and herking and jerking poundage.......to me that is ego training......rather train my muscles.....not my ego.



i also hold my leg extensions in the fully contracted position for 2-3 seconds.

I think how I exercise is a good compromise. I apply the same principles one uses when using Nautilus machines, that is to keep the movement slow and controlled, even slower on the negative movement and with a short pause at the top of the movement. At least for me, the heavier the resistance, the quicker and less strict my movement becomes. At the point of near failure, the movement is sloppy but obviously not quick.

I must be doing something right for arms because my arms measured a smidge over 16" last night. They were 15.5" three weeks ago. Unfortunately, most of the increase seems to be in the triceps. There is no baseball biceps going on for me....more like a football.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 15, 2013, 01:17:47 PM
Just looking at the arm workout I would suggest cutting back on the number of exercises to maybe two each for biceps and triceps and going with heavier weight and at least one set to failure on each up the intensity lower the volume . Diet seems ok with your metabolism.

I have considered that I might be overtraining my arms and possibly some other areas too. Some of my personality flaws are impatience and becoming easily bored. I do better changing things up rather then doing a lot of sets with one movement. I do plan to up the resistance when training arms gradually. One consideration is to up the weight and lower the resistance one week and than stay with the same resistance and increase the reps the next week or two. This way, I should be able to keep my muscles guessing.

My impatient nature is another reason I don't do well with indoor cardio, unless I set up a distraction, like some great tunes on my Nano.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 15, 2013, 01:27:20 PM
Tuesday - Hamstrings and Calves:

Nautilus lying leg curls, 4X12-6 @ 55 to 85 lbs.
Standing calf raises, 4X8-15 @ 260 to 200
Nautilus seated leg curls, 3X12-8 @ 90 to 110
Calf raises on the leg press machine, 3X15-12 @ 185 to 235
Machine reverse hack squats, 4X12-6 @ machine weight to 270 added weight
Seated calf raises, 3X15-10 @ 45 to 90
Nautilus hip abduction, 3X15-10 @ 90 to 110
Nautilus hip adduction, 3X15-10 @ 110 to 130

I paid special attention to form on the reverse hack squats and I am feeling it today in a good way.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 15, 2013, 02:12:13 PM
Yea thats ok but I think best to get out and do some fast walking easier on the joints and a good source of Vitamin D promotes calcium for the bones especially needed by women.

Cough cough....my bones don't need anymore vitamin D.  Since its coming into winter here I have been laying in the sun working on my tan.  But the last couple of days its been overcast and trying to rain and very humid.  I have got the ceiling fan on right now. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 15, 2013, 02:23:49 PM
Cough cough....my bones don't need anymore vitamin D.  Since its coming into winter here I have been laying in the sun working on my tan.  But the last couple of days its been overcast and trying to rain and very humid.  I have got the ceiling fan on right now. 
Seems the Rainy season is around the corner. Try to get outside when you can otherwise a damn treadmill. Do you have your own equipment or is it just going to the gym?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 15, 2013, 02:32:35 PM
Seems the Rainy season is around the corner. Try to get outside when you can otherwise a damn treadmill. Do you have your own equipment or is it just going to the gym?
The rain is supose to have gone by now.  I don't have a treadmill..always wanted one though.  It would be very practical. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 15, 2013, 02:41:05 PM
The rain is supose to have gone by now.  I don't have a treadmill..always wanted one though.  It would be very practical. 
I had a treadmill but it quit working so I beat the shit out it with ball bat. I'm lucky to have a fast metabolism I only have done cardio before contests otherwise none. But it is in order if you are trying to lose fat.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 15, 2013, 02:44:20 PM
I had a treadmill but it quit working so I beat the shit out it with ball bat. I'm lucky to have a fast metabolism I only have done cardio before contests otherwise none. But it is in order if you are trying to lose fat.

You mean a base ball bat??   :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 15, 2013, 02:57:10 PM
You mean a base ball bat??   :o
Yes treadmills piss me off I will beat the piss out out them  ;D. Get outside booty best exercise for you but at this time a few allergys going around the seasons are exactly different here spring here, fall for you but thats when shit is flying in the air hence allergies.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 15, 2013, 03:00:40 PM
The rain is supose to have gone by now.  I don't have a treadmill..always wanted one though.  It would be very practical. 

I bought a really nice one from Sears many years ago, mainly for my wife. She used it once or twice. It used to be in the loft. Sometimes I'd go up there and run on it for a half hour. The nice thing is one can run naked when the treadmill is in their own home. Running naked feels almost as good as swimming naked....but that's just me and we all know by now that I am a little odd.  ;D

At present, the treadmill is in the garage. It is in a location that I could use it if I wanted, but I have not.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 15, 2013, 03:07:00 PM
I bought a really nice one from Sears many years ago, mainly for my wife. She used it once or twice. It used to be in the loft. Sometimes I'd go up there and run on it for a half hour. The nice thing is one can run naked when the treadmill is in their own home. Running naked feels almost as good as swimming naked....but that's just me and we all know by now that I am a little odd.  ;D

At present, the treadmill is in the garage. It is in a location that I could use it if I wanted, but I have not.
I would set it on the side of the road light a cigarette and watch the garbage man pick it up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 15, 2013, 03:09:18 PM
Yes treadmills piss me off I will beat the piss out out them  ;D. Get outside booty best exercise for you but at this time a few allergys going around the seasons are exactly different here spring here, fall for you but thats when shit is flying in the air hence allergies.
I am outside enough.   ;D  I personally prefer walking outdoors if it isn't too hot.  I think that its more of a workout for the muscles, as the treadmill carries you along.  My calves always feel as though they got a better workout from walking outdoors.  I think mentally too, I can unwind and just look at nature.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 15, 2013, 03:11:07 PM
I bought a really nice one from Sears many years ago, mainly for my wife. She used it once or twice. It used to be in the loft. Sometimes I'd go up there and run on it for a half hour. The nice thing is one can run naked when the treadmill is in their own home. Running naked feels almost as good as swimming naked....but that's just me and we all know by now that I am a little odd.  ;D

At present, the treadmill is in the garage. It is in a location that I could use it if I wanted, but I have not.

I know I would use a treadmill if I had one.  I stayed with a girlfriend in melbourne for a month a few years ago and every morning I would do an hour on her treadmill.  I loved it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 15, 2013, 03:19:02 PM
I am outside enough.   ;D  I personally prefer walking outdoors if it isn't too hot.  I think that its more of a workout for the muscles, as the treadmill carries you along.  My calves always feel as though they got a better workout from walking outdoors.  I think mentally too, I can unwind and just look at nature.  
Exactly. I have to train people at the gym about twice a week. Some ask do you think I should hit the treadmill I say yes did "you bring a ball bat". Get out in fresh air when you can the vitamin D really helps women as well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 15, 2013, 03:28:44 PM
Exactly. I have to train people at the gym about twice a week. Some ask do you think I should hit the treadmill I say yes did "you bring a ball bat". Get out in fresh air when you can the vitamin D really helps women as well.

My bones are strong, I am not some little old lady.  I have never broken a bone and I grew up drinking alot of milk and eating plenty of dairy.  I have been doing weight bearing exercises since I was 17.  I am not a candicate for brittle bones.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 15, 2013, 03:35:40 PM
My bones are strong, I am not some little old lady.  I have never broken a bone and I grew up drinking alot of milk and eating plenty of dairy.  I have been doing weight bearing exercises since I was 17.  I am not a candicate for brittle bones.
I know you look great booty. Just saying the sunlight will keep your bones strong and I am saying it to myself for the future. Falcon called yesterday and we were discussing this very topic about vitamin D.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 15, 2013, 03:58:32 PM
I know you look great booty. Just saying the sunlight will keep your bones strong and I am saying it to myself for the future. Falcon called yesterday and we were discussing this very topic about vitamin D.
We have the highest skin cancer in the world where I live.  I see the sun 365 days of the year.  I don't want to see so much sunlight.  Give me snow and four seasons anyway.   :(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 15, 2013, 04:07:24 PM
We have the highest skin cancer in the world where I live.  I see the sun 365 days of the year.  I don't want to see so much sunlight.  Give me snow and four seasons anyway.   :(
Understood my mistake, I never saw a cloud when I was there. See I like a cloudy rainy day at times we have that here it calms the mind a bit, four seasons here every year. I have travelled all over the USA - NC is still top 5.  So are you still thinking of entering a show?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 15, 2013, 04:19:18 PM
Understood my mistake, I never saw a cloud when I was there. See I like a cloudy rainy day at times we have that here it calms the mind a bit, four seasons here every year. I have travelled all over the USA - NC is still top 5.  So are you still thinking of entering a show?

I am so looking forward to winter here.  Wearing jeans without sweating and sitting under a throw rug at night while I watch tv..getting into bed with my electric blanket on.  I will soak up plenty of sun when I lay in the sun wearing only coconut oil. 
I will have to play it by ear, in otherwords see how I am looking next year.  I am quite hard on myself.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 15, 2013, 06:48:10 PM
here is my current split:

chest/  day one

back  day two

off     day three

delts  day four

arms  day five

off  day six

legs  day seven
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 15, 2013, 07:18:35 PM
back/bi's /abs/  probably the full in terms of pump/strenght/stamia/form i had for back since i was injured,,everything in place...

chins x3 to start i love them sets 10/12 reps
bent over rows real version not fugazy standing upright some people have mastered,,135/185,205 12/12/10
low row pad to chest seated x3 stack version,170,180,190..10/10/10
hammer reverse pulldowns x3 45 plus 25 x10,2 plates x10,2 plates and 10 x10
finish with rope on upper section cable section and stand slight angle back and bend torso a bit stretch up and pull rope toward waist and open rope and pull open into hips x3 

weighted hypers 45 plate x3 12/15 reps...

bi's
curl bar premade  60,70,80,90,,,12/12/10/8-9 lost count lol,,pumped tho
x3 db curl mix up single arm then do both arms for a few then back to single arms gets muscle fatigued 35 /35/35 lb dbells
close grip curl with straight bar x2...

abs 4 sets 30 reps floor crunches feet elevated on bench lying on floor old school,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 15, 2013, 08:54:57 PM
I would set it on the side of the road light a cigarette and watch the garbage man pick it up.

'cept I don't smoke.  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 15, 2013, 09:01:56 PM
Exactly. I have to train people at the gym about twice a week. Some ask do you think I should hit the treadmill I say yes did "you bring a ball bat". Get out in fresh air when you can the vitamin D really helps women as well.

So, what I hear you all saying is that a treadmill is good for exercise, but nothing more, like feeding one's soul by communing with nature or just soaking up some good old rays from the sun while enjoying the sights. I think I see my puppies nodding and winking at me. They know a good walk is killer.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 15, 2013, 09:05:04 PM
We have the highest skin cancer in the world where I live.  I see the sun 365 days of the year.  I don't want to see so much sunlight.  Give me snow and four seasons anyway.   :(

In Oregon we have the highest incidence of skin rust and mold from all the rain.  ;) I shouldn't complain because this spring has been amazing with lots of sunny days and just enough rain to keep the grass green and the flower blooming.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 15, 2013, 09:08:57 PM
here is my current split:

chest/  day one

back  day two

off     day three

delts  day four

arms  day five

off  day six

legs  day seven

Not too different from what I am doing. My only day off is Sunday. Hams and quads each have their own day. I combine abs with deltoids. Allowing seven days for the muscles to recover works really great for me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 15, 2013, 09:21:40 PM
Wednesday - back:

ISO front lat pulldown, 4X12-6 @ 110 to 250 lbs.
ISO bench rows, 4X12-8 @ 90 to 130
Nebula low row, 3X12-8 @ 90 to 150
Hammer reverse grip pull down, 2X10-8 @ 100 to 150
One arm dumbbell rows, 2X10-8 @ 45 to 55

I either added sets, reps or upped the resistance marginally. And no, I did not do anything to failure today.  :(

This is my shortest routine of the week. That was a good thing today because the day was full of errands. I dropped my wife off at the optometrist, went to the gym, worked out and got back just as the doctor finished up. I saw my optometrist in the morning. I think my doctor is more thorough than hers, since I was getting my eyes examined for almost two hours while my wife's exam barely took an hour.

Tomorrow I work deltoids and abs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 16, 2013, 01:38:40 AM
lots of great posts... I have a shoulder and arm workout today...
I will tri set and superset..
Barbell front press 5x10 (no rest then)
Side laterals 5x10 (no rest then)
rear delt raises 5x10

i will only have a short rest between tri sets ..then arms supersets...
Lying tricep ez extensions 5x10 with
Straight bar Curls 5x10

thatīs all for arms due to time, straight to the point and no messing around..get in there get the job done... ;D I hope i can get in some cardio if not i will tomorrow before work.. i feel a bit tired today.. still i will get some good food down my neck and iīll be OK. still weekend aint far away... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 16, 2013, 01:40:37 AM
here is my current split:

chest/  day one

back  day two

off     day three

delts  day four

arms  day five

off  day six

legs  day seven
looks good to recover and i like the Day off before legs allowing arms to recover before chest on Monday..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 16, 2013, 01:53:34 AM
Wednesday - back:

ISO front lat pulldown, 4X12-6 @ 110 to 250 lbs.
ISO bench rows, 4X12-8 @ 90 to 130
Nebula low row, 3X12-8 @ 90 to 150
Hammer reverse grip pull down, 2X10-8 @ 100 to 150
One arm dumbbell rows, 2X10-8 @ 45 to 55

I either added sets, reps or upped the resistance marginally. And no, I did not do anything to failure today.  :(

This is my shortest routine of the week. That was a good thing today because the day was full of errands. I dropped my wife off at the optometrist, went to the gym, worked out and got back just as the doctor finished up. I saw my optometrist in the morning. I think my doctor is more thorough than hers, since I was getting my eyes examined for almost two hours while my wife's exam barely took an hour.

Tomorrow I work deltoids and abs.
Nothing will stop this man getting his workout in !.. nice Steve and looks like you are recovering nicely.. ;D ( you know i love these little smileys )
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 16, 2013, 05:44:32 AM
In Oregon we have the highest incidence of skin rust and mold from all the rain.  ;) I shouldn't complain because this spring has been amazing with lots of sunny days and just enough rain to keep the grass green and the flower blooming.
I have never heard of skin rust, Jay?   :D  Its raining here right now.  Hopefully it washes away some pollen as the pressure in my nose is very uncomfortable.  I think it's going to fine up..can't wait. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 16, 2013, 08:26:36 AM
looks good to recover and i like the Day off before legs allowing arms to recover before chest on Monday..
Thanks Donny!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 16, 2013, 10:46:36 AM
I have never heard of skin rust, Jay?   :D  Its raining here right now.  Hopefully it washes away some pollen as the pressure in my nose is very uncomfortable.  I think it's going to fine up..can't wait. 

It is a Pacific Northwest condition.... ;D In the winter, if I don't use the tanning bed my skin tone get very sallow.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 16, 2013, 02:29:16 PM
It is a Pacific Northwest condition.... ;D In the winter, if I don't use the tanning bed my skin tone get very sallow.
Ah okay.  That would never happen here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 16, 2013, 02:36:55 PM
I got this guy I have been training around 3 years he has made good progress hence why he keeps coming around for my help. Now I am tired of him but being a nice person overall I am not sure on how to get rid of him he gets on my nerves now. I am not good of getting rid of people unless they piss me off.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 16, 2013, 03:14:15 PM
I got this guy I have been training around 3 years he has made good progress hence why he keeps coming around for my help. Now I am tired of him but being a nice person overall I am not sure on how to get rid of him he gets on my nerves now. I am not good of getting rid of people unless they piss me off.

Me neither. I find it difficult to let people go because I worry I will hurt their feelings. If you are not getting paid for helping him and doing so feels like an imposition, you could make yourself somehow unavailable to him. If he is paying you and you no longer want him as a client, thus this being just a business relationship, simply tell him that it is time for him to seek out a new trainer.

I sometimes will ask someone for advice on one particular exercise they are doing that I also do, but I think this is a bit different. The question is usually short and sweet, not requiring them to interrupt their workout to advise me. I rarely offer people advice though unless they specifically ask for it. Even then, I qualify my answer by making sure they understand I am not a certified trainer and therefore any advice I give should be taken lightly.

My good friend who I met when I was 18 years old, still lives in California. We have nothing in common although he's a good person.  He never married, has no children and although he is gay, he never managed what I consider a long term relationship with anyone. He is all alone and lonely a lot of the time, although he does do stuff with his friends. My wife and I both think of him kind of like a brother. When he visits we enjoy his time with us for a day or two and that's about it. Writing about him reminds me that I should give him a call to see how he is doing.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 16, 2013, 03:28:19 PM
Me neither. I find it difficult to let people go because I worry I will hurt their feelings. If you are not getting paid for helping him and doing so feels like an imposition, you could make yourself somehow unavailable to him. If he is paying you and you no longer want him as a client, thus this being just a business relationship, simply tell him that it is time for him to seek out a new trainer.

I sometimes will ask someone for advice on one particular exercise they are doing that I also do, but I think this is a bit different. The question is usually short and sweet, not requiring them to interrupt their workout to advise me. I rarely offer people advice though unless they specifically ask for it. Even then, I qualify my answer by making sure they understand I am not a certified trainer and therefore any advice I give should be taken lightly.

My good friend who I met when I was 18 years old, still lives in California. We have nothing in common although he's a good person.  He never married, has no children and although he is gay, he never managed what I consider a long term relationship with anyone. He is all alone and lonely a lot of the time, although he does do stuff with his friends. My wife and I both think of him kind of like a brother. When he visits we enjoy his time with us for a day or two and that's about it. Writing about him reminds me that I should give him a call to see how he is doing.


He pays me for the workouts but calls me alot about diet and such. Yea the issue is I don't like hurting peoples feelings damn life is hard enough. Yea seems the friend is just a loner at heart but good you still talk to him. I played football in High School out of the blue my quarterback called me and said thanks for all the help playing football. I played offense protected him and defense linebacker both ways. He wants me to come by not sure if will it will stir up too many feelings from the past.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 16, 2013, 06:18:16 PM
He pays me for the workouts but calls me alot about diet and such. Yea the issue is I don't like hurting peoples feelings damn life is hard enough. Yea seems the friend is just a loner at heart but good you still talk to him. I played football in High School out of the blue my quarterback called me and said thanks for all the help playing football. I played offense protected him and defense linebacker both ways. He wants me to come by not sure if will it will stir up too many feelings from the past.

Hopefully, you and your high school football team member have both matured and changed since those times. Sure, you'll probably spend some time reminiscing about the good ol' days, but this is also an opportunity to see if you have anything in common today.

I had some friends in high school who I lost touch with. I tried finding them via the Internet with no luck. Other high school friends, a few that I hung out with a lot, went on to have really screwed up adult lives and I was the wild one of the bunch! Go figure. Unlike these folks, I was never very interested in drugs. I think that is what ended up making a lot of difference. One friend was so smart, she went straight from high school to UCLA with an English lit major. She got her bachelor's and her master's in four years. She went on to become a heroin addict after school and turned her life to shit. Another really bright guy I hung out with ended up divorced and selling Real Estate in Spokane, WA. And to think, I was the dumb bunny of our little group.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 16, 2013, 06:23:54 PM
Hopefully, you and your high school football team member have both matured and changed since those times. Sure, you'll probably spend some time reminiscing about the good ol' days, but this is also an opportunity to see if you have anything in common today.

I had some friends in high school who I lost touch with. I tried finding them via the Internet with no luck. Other high school friends, a few that I hung out with a lot, went on to have really screwed up adult lives and I was the wild one of the bunch! Go figure. Unlike these folks, I was never very interested in drugs. I think that is what ended up making a lot of difference. One friend was so smart, she went straight from high school to UCLA with an English lit major. She got her bachelor's and her master's in four years. She went on to become a heroin addict after school and turned her life to shit. Another really bright guy I hung out with ended up divorced and selling Real Estate in Spokane, WA. And to think, I was the dumb bunny of our little group.
What does this tell you Prime? You can have every degree in the world but if your mind is not right it doesn't make any difference. You lose a parent or a close friend it effects you greatly. I lost my dad last year although not close with him it has really took a toll on me. Unresolved issues.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 16, 2013, 06:29:45 PM
Thursday - Shoulders and Abs:

Smith seated front press, 5X15-4 @ 45 to 135 lbs.
Seated side lateral raises, 4X12-8 @ 10 to 17.5 each
Bodymasters rear lateral raises, 5X12-8 @ 30 to 70 (similar to bent later raises)
Shrugs, 4X15-8 @ 45 to 135 (I used a special contraption designed just for shrugs which I thought had gone missing)
Cable upright rows, 3X12 @ 77
Nautilus rotary torso, 2X25 @ 60
Fast trac, 2X25 @ bodyweight and using three positions
Nautilus crunches, 2X25 @ 70 to 80

I changed up a couple of exercises in this routine because the equipment I normally use was in use and other things just for variety.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 16, 2013, 06:45:54 PM
What does this tell you Prime? You can have every degree in the world but if your mind is not right it doesn't make any difference. You lose a parent or a close friend it effects you greatly. I lost my dad last year although not close with him it has really took a toll on me. Unresolved issues.

Pretty much everyone has unresolved issues with their parents. I know I did. It may make things worse for some of us when they pass, but you can't do anything about that. Time for you to put those issues to rest....you'll feel a lot better when you do.

My wife and I have made every effort to be as open with our children as possible while they were growing up. Still, we made mistakes raising them. Kids don't come with a handbook. Parents just do the best they can. Many years ago, I apologized to my son for not being more of a hands on dad. He was really into sports and, well, I suck at sports always have. Our daughter was date raped when she was only fifteen by another fifteen year old who had been her boyfriend for sometime. She didn't even tell us for almost 2 weeks because she had been drinking and she thought she did something to cause this to happen. It has been one of the biggest hurdles in her life to overcome. My wife and I wanted to contact the police or kill him whichever was easier and produced the best results. Our daughter convinced us to let it go. We insisted on her getting counseling. I still wish I'd killed him sometimes. We all have regrets.

I will say this. You come across like a really great guy (aside from having an issue with baseball bats and treadmills). Whatever unresolved problems you had with your dad apparently have not damaged your personality any.

I've told you this before; I barely knew my dad. The last time I saw him, I was 7 years old and he deserted me, leaving me with his nut-case of a girlfriend. My stepdad, who came into my life when I was 8 is my dad. He wasn't real "warm and fuzzy," but he was a great guy. I could tell you a lot of stories about my mother, but there isn't enough room in this forum for that.

Like I said, most parents are imperfect and most of us were not always the ideal kids while growing up.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 16, 2013, 06:56:07 PM
Pretty much everyone has unresolved issues with their parents. I know I did. It may make things worse for some of us when they pass, but you can't do anything about that. Time for you to put those issues to rest....you'll feel a lot better when you do.

My wife and I have made every effort to be as open with our children as possible while they were growing up. Still, we made mistakes raising them. Kids don't come with a handbook. Parents just do the best they can. Many years ago, I apologized to my son for not being more of a hands on dad. He was really into sports and, well, I suck at sports always have. Our daughter was date raped when she was only fifteen by another fifteen year old who had been her boyfriend for sometime. She didn't even tell us for almost 2 weeks because she had been drinking and she thought she did something to cause this to happen. It has been one of the biggest hurdles in her life to overcome. My wife and I wanted to contact the police or kill him whichever was easier and produced the best results. Our daughter convinced us to let it go. We insisted on her getting counseling. I still wish I'd killed him sometimes. We all have regrets.

I will say this. You come across like a really great guy (aside from having an issue with baseball bats and treadmills). Whatever unresolved problems you had with your dad apparently have not damaged your personality any.

I've told you this before; I barely knew my dad. The last time I saw him, I was 7 years old and he deserted me, leaving me with his nut-case of a girlfriend. My stepdad, who came into my life when I was 8 is my dad. He wasn't real "warm and fuzzy," but he was a great guy. I could tell you a lot of stories about my mother, but there isn't enough room in this forum for that.

Like I said, most parents are imperfect and most of us were not always the ideal kids while growing up.


Sorry to hear Prime. It was not your daughters fault as I think. Yea I learned from my Dad's mistakes in life, making sure I don't do the same things. Some people never learn. I always played sports but my dad never came to see one event it hurt me a bit. Tell us about your mother sometime see the guys are always closer to the mother than the dad most times.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 16, 2013, 07:57:50 PM
i have 2 girls 7/3 ,,,love them dearly,pray the world dosen't pull them too far from where they came from in the future,,,,,

delts 2 nite great workout,,felt like myself months ago and dialed in some pics included,,,very ripped for summer here soon,,,, :)

side laterals 1st 20x12,25 x12,30 x12,30 x10 then dropped to 25 db till failure...nice start
fr press 45 per side x10//45 plus 10 x10,45 plus 10 and 5 forced 10,,then dropped back to 45 for 13,,,
bent over reear delts 20,25,30 dbs   
front raise straight bar 45 lber went up to 65 x3 sets reps 10 area,,,

shrugs with chest machine again lol,,,2 plates x30 :o,,,3 plates x30  8) ,,3 plates plus 25 x 20 2x,,, :P

calves 5 set standup calf raise toe straight/pointed in sets 12/15 reps

forearms rope rolls weighted and behind back cable wrist curls,,

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 16, 2013, 09:57:31 PM
tonight i worked back.......12 sets


lat pulldowns

seated one arm cable rows

chest supported t bar rows

stiff arm pulldowns (rope)

20 minutes treadmill  3 incline   3.2 speed


trying to get hard and tight for summer!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 16, 2013, 11:30:15 PM
Sorry to hear Prime. It was not your daughters fault as I think. Yea I learned from my Dad's mistakes in life, making sure I don't do the same things. Some people never learn. I always played sports but my dad never came to see one event it hurt me a bit. Tell us about your mother sometime see the guys are always closer to the mother than the dad most times.

There is good and bad in everyone. The trick is to see the good and ignore the bad. Not that this is always an easy trick.

I did go to a lot of my son's games throughout his sports career. The really embarrassing time was when his Little League team hosted a father son game. The smaller the ball, the more problem I have seeing it. A baseball is very small. I made an idiot of myself trying to hit and catch the ball. I know I embarrassed him. As it turned out, I have a severe astigmatism which was not diagnosed until years after this event. This eye problem has a disastrous affect on my ability to gauge where the ball is. You can probably imagine how ridiculous I looked trying to play baseball that day.  :(

My stepdad was a great guy, like I said. He was from a very poor family and never had the opportunity to play sports as a kid. He also was very ambitious and worked 6 and 7 days a week to keep my mother happy and himself and her in Cadillacs and Lincolns. Playing catch with his stepson was not something he would have thought of doing.

I got to know him best when I went to work with him as a kid and he would talk to me like I was his contemporary, never talking down to me. He would also "rescue" me when my mom was on a rampage and had gone out to tie one on. He would take me to see silent films so we could both avoid her craziness when she'd come home blasted from one of her many binge nights.

I think I mentioned that I moved out as soon as I possibly could. Actually, I moved out when I was not yet 17. I had a job and rented a room in a boarding house and later an inexpensive apartment near work. Unfortunately, in those days there was no such thing as teenagers being emancipated.  One night when I was schlepping my laundry to the laundry matt, the cops stopped me because it was after curfew. They hauled me in to JDH, called my parents and informed us all that I could not live on my own at that age unless I lived with an adult. Not knowing any responsible adults, I moved home until my 18th birthday when I gave myself the present of freedom from the nut house.

This is not a sob story about my dysfunctional childhood and how damaged I was. There was much that was good in my life when I was a kid and I remember these events too. Sometimes I do think it is a bit of a curse that I can remember so much about my childhood though.

It was not my daughter's fault, anymore than it is anyone's fault if someone rapes them. The really horrific part of that story is that the other folks at the party were their friends, none of which intervened even though she called out for help. The asshole who raped her was so clueless that he couldn't understand why she would have nothing to do with him after it happened and he continued to harass her until he was expelled from high school for doing this.

My daughter met a wonderful man during her first year of college. They married when she was 19 years old and are still married today, almost 18 years later. He is the most loving and understanding husband any woman could hope to have. He knows all about what happened to her. He has helped her heal the emotional scars she suffered.

We all have some shit in our life story. We don't have to succumb to it. We have the ability to move on and make good lives for ourselves.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 01:20:04 AM
i have 2 girls 7/3 ,,,love them dearly,pray the world dosen't pull them too far from where they came from in the future,,,,,

delts 2 nite great workout,,felt like myself months ago and dialed in some pics included,,,very ripped for summer here soon,,,, :)

side laterals 1st 20x12,25 x12,30 x12,30 x10 then dropped to 25 db till failure...nice start
fr press 45 per side x10//45 plus 10 x10,45 plus 10 and 5 forced 10,,then dropped back to 45 for 13,,,
bent over reear delts 20,25,30 dbs   
front raise straight bar 45 lber went up to 65 x3 sets reps 10 area,,,

shrugs with chest machine again lol,,,2 plates x30 :o,,,3 plates x30  8) ,,3 plates plus 25 x 20 2x,,, :P

calves 5 set standup calf raise toe straight/pointed in sets 12/15 reps

forearms rope rolls weighted and behind back cable wrist curls,,


you got the abs there steve, nice shape and you are really in shape all year round. I am hitting cardio a bit harder at the momemt, mainly interval training for 30 mins. no training today and i have to work till 11pm in the Gym...maybe i will sneak in a bit here and there... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 01:55:09 AM
tonight i worked back.......12 sets


lat pulldowns

seated one arm cable rows

chest supported t bar rows

stiff arm pulldowns (rope)

20 minutes treadmill  3 incline   3.2 speed


trying to get hard and tight for summer!
stiff arm pulldowns with a rope i will use next time myself... yes get some walking in there.. train for all round fitness. I suppose watching my Father having a massive Heart attack made me think about cardio and general health. still....he who dies fitess still dies...

one other method good for losing fat is circuits.. my favourit is Boxing circuits...

Do 6 times -no stopping
skipping 1 minute
crunches(double crunch)
alternate DB shoulder press x10
Upright rowing(or side raises if hard on shoulder) x10
Nieder press10( standing press from chest like a bench press) all 3 exercises in 1 minute
punch bag 1 minute

more emphasis on shoulders and what a boxer needs to hold his hands up for long periods.

another good circuit is ..

round 1
skipping 1 minute
crunches
front Barbell press

round 2
step-ups 1 minute
incline press -ups 1 minute
punch bag 1 minute

Round 3
Half sit ups 1 minute
skipping 1 minute
Arm punches with weights 1 minute

The circuit follows the format of a boxing match with 3 minutes of work in each round. Depending on your fitness level you can do as many rounds as you want. 10 rounds will be 30 minutes work, 10 minutes rest  a 40 minute workout that will prove to be very tiring..

so round 1 is 3 exercises rotated after 1 minute ..NO REST BETWEEN EXERCISES ..1 minute rest between rounds... ENJOY THE PAIN  ;D  this burns fat and quick !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 02:42:23 AM
Greg plitt great motivation...notice he does lunges like Steve...look like killers... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 17, 2013, 03:15:03 AM
There is good and bad in everyone. The trick is to see the good and ignore the bad. Not that this is always an easy trick.

I did go to a lot of my son's games throughout his sports career. The really embarrassing time was when his Little League team hosted a father son game. The smaller the ball, the more problem I have seeing it. A baseball is very small. I made an idiot of myself trying to hit and catch the ball. I know I embarrassed him. As it turned out, I have a severe astigmatism which was not diagnosed until years after this event. This eye problem has a disastrous affect on my ability to gauge where the ball is. You can probably imagine how ridiculous I looked trying to play baseball that day.  :(

My stepdad was a great guy, like I said. He was from a very poor family and never had the opportunity to play sports as a kid. He also was very ambitious and worked 6 and 7 days a week to keep my mother happy and himself and her in Cadillacs and Lincolns. Playing catch with his stepson was not something he would have thought of doing.

I got to know him best when I went to work with him as a kid and he would talk to me like I was his contemporary, never talking down to me. He would also "rescue" me when my mom was on a rampage and had gone out to tie one on. He would take me to see silent films so we could both avoid her craziness when she'd come home blasted from one of her many binge nights.

I think I mentioned that I moved out as soon as I possibly could. Actually, I moved out when I was not yet 17. I had a job and rented a room in a boarding house and later an inexpensive apartment near work. Unfortunately, in those days there was no such thing as teenagers being emancipated.  One night when I was schlepping my laundry to the laundry matt, the cops stopped me because it was after curfew. They hauled me in to JDH, called my parents and informed us all that I could not live on my own at that age unless I lived with an adult. Not knowing any responsible adults, I moved home until my 18th birthday when I gave myself the present of freedom from the nut house.

This is not a sob story about my dysfunctional childhood and how damaged I was. There was much that was good in my life when I was a kid and I remember these events too. Sometimes I do think it is a bit of a curse that I can remember so much about my childhood though.

It was not my daughter's fault, anymore than it is anyone's fault if someone rapes them. The really horrific part of that story is that the other folks at the party were their friends, none of which intervened even though she called out for help. The asshole who raped her was so clueless that he couldn't understand why she would have nothing to do with him after it happened and he continued to harass her until he was expelled from high school for doing this.

My daughter met a wonderful man during her first year of college. They married when she was 19 years old and are still married today, almost 18 years later. He is the most loving and understanding husband any woman could hope to have. He knows all about what happened to her. He has helped her heal the emotional scars she suffered.

We all have some shit in our life story. We don't have to succumb to it. We have the ability to move on and make good lives for ourselves.
It's amazing how childhood shapes your life forever you can learn by your parents mistakes or continue as they did. I left home at 18 to get away from the physical abuse of my Dad the same reason I started lifting weights as well. Good to hear your daughter is doing well now however that event will always stay with her.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 17, 2013, 03:26:18 AM
Guys I am going to start writing up my training logs again.   :-[  Good to see everyone is training hard and doing well.  Looking good Steve and wild willie post up some pics too.  How's your insomnia tonight Mr Nobody?  I hope it gets better for you.  Nothing is worse than laying there unable to fall asleep.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 03:34:48 AM
It's amazing how childhood shapes your life forever you can learn by your parents mistakes or continue as they did. I left home at 18 to get away from the physical abuse of my Dad the same reason I started lifting weights as well. Good to hear your daughter is doing well now however that event will always stay with her.
yes good post...i never had a close relationship with my father either...we all grew up with something but you gotta live life now. I canīt imagine how hard that was for Jay and his daughter.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 17, 2013, 03:58:43 AM
Guys I am going to start writing up my training logs again.   :-[  Good to see everyone is training hard and doing well.  Looking good Steve and wild willie post up some pics too.  How's your insomnia tonight Mr Nobody?  I hope it gets better for you.  Nothing is worse than laying there unable to fall asleep.
Good post them up. The Insomnia has been all my life I can only sleep about 3-4 hours then up again it comes from my dad waking us all up when he came home late at night from work. Yea Steve is jacked I don't recall seeing a pic of wild.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 17, 2013, 04:28:03 AM
Good post them up. The Insomnia has been all my life I can only sleep about 3-4 hours then up again it comes from my dad waking us all up when he came home late at night from work. Yea Steve is jacked I don't recall seeing a pic of wild.

Guys I am a bit guarded in here as I know that what I post gets taken into other forums on getbig and used against me as attacks.  In a way I wish we had a password where you had to get approved to post in the mature thread and we could post in complete confidance.  I feel protective towards you bunch. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 04:31:05 AM
Guys I am a bit guarded in here as I know that what I post gets taken into other forums on getbig and used against me as attacks.  In a way I wish we had a password where you had to get approved to post in the mature thread and we could post in complete confidance.  I feel protective towards you bunch. 
sad but true...you really have to watch what you write and that includes pictures
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 17, 2013, 04:43:29 AM
Guys I am a bit guarded in here as I know that what I post gets taken into other forums on getbig and used against me as attacks.  In a way I wish we had a password where you had to get approved to post in the mature thread and we could post in complete confidance.  I feel protective towards you bunch.  
That would be nice a password it will not happen though. Yea some good people in this thread you are one of them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 17, 2013, 05:36:51 AM
Every time I think about posting a picture I come to my senses. The guys using steroids will say you can't compare to them. Which is true. Never understood a guy who is proud of a temporary steroid physique. Another reason is I could see my picture photo shopped for juvenile comedy.  Lastly anyone can use it for a site like Craig's list falsely representing some anonymous poster. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 17, 2013, 05:58:00 AM
If you posted a pic in here, you would get constructive criticism and praise where needed.  We would never rip anyone apart.  It's just the trolls/gimmicks that read and watch this place that you have to be careful of.  Thanks for the nice words Mr Nobody, I think you are a good person as well...as is Donny, Jay and Steve, Oldtimer. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 17, 2013, 09:04:48 AM
Off topic - I got this guy across the street using a electric saw all day woke me up at like 6:30am. I hate useless noise unless it's good music. I am thinking of going over and beating the piss out of him.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 11:38:05 AM
Guys I am a bit guarded in here as I know that what I post gets taken into other forums on getbig and used against me as attacks.  In a way I wish we had a password where you had to get approved to post in the mature thread and we could post in complete confidance.  I feel protective towards you bunch. 

I completely understand, having posted what I thought was a photo of myself, which I intended to be an honest "before" (having just started back working out) photo and one where I could get some advice on what areas to work on. In this forum that worked out fine. Unfortunately, someone took that photo out of context posting it in another thread and someone else even photo-shopped it to make it appear I was ogling Tbombz. I was miffed at first, but got over it. I will not let those idiots influence whether I post progress photos here in this thread. Although I might choose drab clothing since my underwear color choice was so controversial....LOL!

If we cannot speak freely to each other as adults here in this forum without fear of what we say or post being used to slander us in other Getbig forums, perhaps we should start a blog of our own. The only problem I see with this is that the participation here has grown as other mature Getbigger's discover the value of this forum.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 17, 2013, 11:42:15 AM
I completely understand, having posted what I thought was a photo of myself, which I intended to be an honest "before" (having just started back working out) photo and one where I could get some advice on what areas to work on. In this forum that worked out fine. Unfortunately, someone took that photo out of context posting it in another thread and someone else even photo-shopped it to make it appear I was ogling Tbombz. I was miffed at first, but got over it. I will not let those idiots influence whether I post progress photos here in this thread. Although I might choose drab clothing since my underwear color choice was so controversial....LOL!

If we cannot speak freely to each other as adults here in this forum without fear of what we say or post being used to slander us in other Getbig forums, perhaps we should start a blog of our own. The only problem I see with this is that the participation here has grown as other mature Getbigger's discover the value of this forum.
THIS IS MY FAVORITE THREAD ,,,AND I POST HERE EVERY DAY,,,AND THE HALF NAKED SHOTS DONE IN GOOD TASTE :P...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 11:45:52 AM
Every time I think about posting a picture I come to my senses. The guys using steroids will say you can't compare to them. Which is true. Never understood a guy who is proud of a temporary steroid physique. Another reason is I could see my picture photo shopped for juvenile comedy.  Lastly anyone can use it for a site like Craig's list falsely representing some anonymous poster. 

Well if I start getting messages from Craig's list, I'll let you know.  ;)

Personally, I try to balance freedom of speech with a measure of caution. I have periodically checked to see what images come up when I Google my handle and my real name. So far, so good. Primemuscle is really a common handle/name used on the Internet. Access to my legal name is reserved for folks I trust. Using my first name, Jay, here has not proved to be a problem either.

Caution is one thing; paranoia is another whole matter and I refuse to go there.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 11:46:29 AM
Off topic - I got this guy across the street using a electric saw all day woke me up at like 6:30am. I hate useless noise unless it's good music. I am thinking of going over and beating the piss out of him.

Think about it all you want, just don't do it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 01:37:52 PM
Think about it all you want, just don't do it.
yes good advice...lol I got an old guy who lives above me and thinks he is everyones Sheriff here...he used to work in A German Jail. He is retired and is a DIY freak and it does get annoying at times; The same guy kept annoying my wife about old bikes left in the basement area of our block(we have a designated area for bikes). I spoke to him about it and he got pissy so i told him to wind his neck in. He then wrote a letter about me to my landlord, i could have got upset but i just laughed at it. It was how he wrote it...very old fashioned German. The guy is a clown and i hear his wife shouting at him all the time, so i know really he is living his Hell out till he goes...point is people like that are frustrated and not worth it. Keep cool...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 01:40:28 PM
I trained a sweet Tattoo Girl tonight...she got them done in Thailand.. I enjoyed putting her on the 45 degree Hyperextension....hmmmm ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 01:45:19 PM
I trained a sweet Tattoo Girl tonight...she got them done in Thailand.. I enjoyed putting her on the 45 degree Hyperextension....hmmmm ;D

Careful....you don't want to be accused of sexual harassment or does this only happen in the U.S.? Americans are so uptight about these things and many folks here are very litigious as well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 01:50:20 PM
Careful....you don't want to be accused of sexual harassment or does this only happen in the U.S.? Americans are so uptight about these things and many folks here are very litigious as well.
no...just fun. I would never perv on any woman.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 02:15:36 PM
no...just fun. I would never perv on any woman.

My wife likes to flirt. It is completely innocent and certainly meant as a compliment. Still, it did concern me that her innocent flirting might be misread by someone who didn't know her well enough to know she was just kidding around. So far, so good. Oh and I get to flirt too, if I choose. We trust each other enough not to be jealous. Innocent flirting is becoming a lost art. Like I said, folks are just too uptight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 02:27:46 PM
My wife likes to flirt. It is completely innocent and certainly meant as a compliment. Still, it did concern me that her innocent flirting might be misread by someone who didn't know her well enough to know she was just kidding around. So far, so good. Oh and I get to flirt too, if I choose. We trust each other enough not to be jealous. Innocent flirting is becoming a lost art. Like I said, folks are just too uptight.
well i have a laugh when i train people and some women like attention. They like to talk and some are lonely. I had to train a woman yesterday and she was nice, after that i had 2 young girls together to train, they were 22/24. The older woman(35) who i first trained kept coming over and asking me to help her...i had to explain i was busy and have normally 1 hour time. She really kept coming over and i am sure i could have had my evil ways.. ;D. she liked the Vibrations plates and she said,"just what i need in my bed"..could be an innocent comment but you know when a woman looks at you and well... i have had this a few times and am a normal looking guy. I do not consider myself a hunk or anything.Itīs just the Trainer thing.. maybe Karen gets Guys trying to be over nice when she works as a trainer...donīt know. I am just nice to people and try to treat them with respect.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 02:55:24 PM
This is an exercise i have never really wanted to try.. the wrestlers bridge. i have always thought it too dangerous... my neck is ok with Deadlifts and DB shrugs and general training...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 17, 2013, 04:16:13 PM
I trained a sweet Tattoo Girl tonight...she got them done in Thailand.. I enjoyed putting her on the 45 degree Hyperextension....hmmmm ;D
LOL!!!!! TOO FUNNY!!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 17, 2013, 04:17:52 PM
Guys I am going to start writing up my training logs again.   :-[  Good to see everyone is training hard and doing well.  Looking good Steve and wild willie post up some pics too.  How's your insomnia tonight Mr Nobody?  I hope it gets better for you.  Nothing is worse than laying there unable to fall asleep.
BOOTY.....I SHOULDN'T POST ANY PICS OF MYSELF......NOT PRETTY ENOUGH!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 04:21:46 PM
BOOTY.....I SHOULDN'T POST ANY PICS OF MYSELF......NOT PRETTY ENOUGH!!!
George your knowledge shines through in your posts...you know the score .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 17, 2013, 04:22:32 PM
BOOTY.....I SHOULDN'T POST ANY PICS OF MYSELF......NOT PRETTY ENOUGH!!!
You don't have to be pretty George.  You don't even have to post your face...you can edit that out.  Don't do anything that makes you feel uncomfortable or regrettable.  We don't need pics of one another in here at the end of the day.  Our words and logs are enough.  8)  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 17, 2013, 04:26:51 PM
well i have a laugh when i train people and some women like attention. They like to talk and some are lonely. I had to train a woman yesterday and she was nice, after that i had 2 young girls together to train, they were 22/24. The older woman(35) who i first trained kept coming over and asking me to help her...i had to explain i was busy and have normally 1 hour time. She really kept coming over and i am sure i could have had my evil ways.. ;D. she liked the Vibrations plates and she said,"just what i need in my bed"..could be an innocent comment but you know when a woman looks at you and well... i have had this a few times and am a normal looking guy. I do not consider myself a hunk or anything.Itīs just the Trainer thing.. maybe Karen gets Guys trying to be over nice when she works as a trainer...donīt know. I am just nice to people and try to treat them with respect.
I had one client touch my leg when he was on the ground and I was stretching him out.  I worked at a pt studio and as trainers we had to give them a five minute stretch at the end of the workouts.  Anyway so he's on the ground and he reaches over and grabs my leg and looks me in the eye and says something flirty...I can't remember exactly. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 04:28:29 PM
George connect up with us on facebook. If you have it. Infact anyone here can phone me on skype...donaldo1966 no problem.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 04:33:23 PM
I had one client touch my leg when he was on the ground and I was stretching him out.  I worked at a pt studio and as trainers we had to give them a five minute stretch at the end of the workouts.  Anyway so he's on the ground and he reaches over and grabs my leg and looks me in the eye and says something flirty...I can't remember exactly. 
Karen... ;D it is really a dream job in a way but also long hours and you are on your feet all day..you also get difficult people... i bet you handled it well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 17, 2013, 04:36:32 PM
I had one client touch my leg when he was on the ground and I was stretching him out.  I worked at a pt studio and as trainers we had to give them a five minute stretch at the end of the workouts.  Anyway so he's on the ground and he reaches over and grabs my leg and looks me in the eye and says something flirty...I can't remember exactly. 
Thats way over the line too aggressive.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 17, 2013, 05:01:16 PM
Thats way over the line too aggressive.

I felt uncomfortable.  He asked me out a few sessions later but I said no. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 17, 2013, 05:04:50 PM
Karen... ;D it is really a dream job in a way but also long hours and you are on your feet all day..you also get difficult people... i bet you handled it well.
I was professional about it Donny.  I have had a couple of clients which went too far.  One turned up drunk at the gym for me to pt and then constantly flirted with me and asked when he could take me out.  I told him when he was as big as Jay Cutler.  He responded with "but that will take me at least ten years"  I said "yeah exactly".  I refused to train him again.  I told my boss that I felt uncomfortable and so she passed him onto another trainer.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 05:16:02 PM
I was professional about it Donny.  I have had a couple of clients which went too far.  One turned up drunk at the gym for me to pt and then constantly flirted with me and asked when he could take me out.  I told him when he was as big as Jay Cutler.  He responded with "but that will take me at least ten years"  I said "yeah exactly".  I refused to train him again.  I told my boss that I felt uncomfortable and so she passed him onto another trainer.  
Good Girl... some people just donīt understand you are working like any other job. Another thing is people call me by my first name, which is ok but sort of think we are friends. I am quite a casual guy but some people try to take advantage.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 17, 2013, 05:20:31 PM
Good Girl... some people just donīt understand you are working like any other job. Another thing is people call me by my first name, which is ok but sort of think we are friends. I am quite a casual guy but some people try to take advantage.

I always get called Karen and I don't mind.  I don't want to be called Miss (insert surname).  That would be weird.  It's very casual and laid back in Australia. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 05:34:35 PM
I always get called Karen and I don't mind.  I don't want to be called Miss (insert surname).  That would be weird.  It's very casual and laid back in Australia. 
In Germany they call you "sie" which is like impersonal..if you spoke to a stranger or it used to be if you spoke to an older person or a person you do not know. In the Gym we say "du" which is personal and normally said if you are close or friends. If you say du and say first name then itīs very open and trusting...which most of the younger Germans are. Really itīs old school grammar.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 17, 2013, 05:42:27 PM
I was professional about it Donny.  I have had a couple of clients which went too far.  One turned up drunk at the gym for me to pt and then constantly flirted with me and asked when he could take me out.  I told him when he was as big as Jay Cutler.  He responded with "but that will take me at least ten years"  I said "yeah exactly".  I refused to train him again.  I told my boss that I felt uncomfortable and so she passed him onto another trainer.  
karen i'll see you in 10 yrs,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 05:45:00 PM
karen i'll see you in 10 yrs,,,
  ;D she is a babe
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 17, 2013, 05:50:45 PM
  ;D she is a babe
i'll change my name to steve cutler...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 05:55:38 PM
i'll change my name to steve cutler...
Steve you look better(no homo) athletic and muscular. Believe me most young men in the Gym want your type of look.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 17, 2013, 06:05:05 PM
Steve you look better(no homo) athletic and muscular. Believe me most young men in the Gym want your type of look.
thanx,,thats a great compliment no homo,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 06:35:27 PM
This is an exercise i have never really wanted to try.. the wrestlers bridge. i have always thought it too dangerous... my neck is ok with Deadlifts and DB shrugs and general training...


My neck measures 17.5". There is no fat on my neck at all; not the slightest sign of a double chin either. I have no idea how it got so big. I only occasionally do some Nautilus neck exercises. Frankly, I wish it weren't so big. I am not ready to have custom made dress shirts. Can you even begin to imagine how hard it is to find dress shirts with a 36-36" sleeve and a 17.5" neck that don't end up looking like tents? I think my neck measurement should be at least somewhat proportionate to my upper arm measurement. Perhaps this means I need to get those guns up another 1.5".

I have no idea if this deformity affects neck size, but I mentioned that I suffer from "forward head" posture. I think it is because when I was a kid I was the tallest in my class and so I stooped or looked down on my classmates. It also may have something to do with the fact that I wasn't all puffed up like some young guys with an overblown ego. Whatever the cause, in my old age I look like I have dowager's hump. It is disgusting and believe me I would fix it if I knew how.

Anyway for the moment, I am going to forgo wrestler's bridge exercises, at least until my arms catch up with my neck size. I am already freaky enough looking!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 06:37:34 PM
BOOTY.....I SHOULDN'T POST ANY PICS OF MYSELF......NOT PRETTY ENOUGH!!!

Are you saying you're not even as "pretty" as me? Heck if an ancient man like me can post photos of themselves, anyone can.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 17, 2013, 06:39:13 PM
forearms i think the old school rope with weight attached up/down/up/down repeat 3x and wrist curls behind back with cable machine..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 06:41:14 PM
well i have a laugh when i train people and some women like attention. They like to talk and some are lonely. I had to train a woman yesterday and she was nice, after that i had 2 young girls together to train, they were 22/24. The older woman(35) who i first trained kept coming over and asking me to help her...i had to explain i was busy and have normally 1 hour time. She really kept coming over and i am sure i could have had my evil ways.. ;D. she liked the Vibrations plates and she said,"just what i need in my bed"..could be an innocent comment but you know when a woman looks at you and well... i have had this a few times and am a normal looking guy. I do not consider myself a hunk or anything.Itīs just the Trainer thing.. maybe Karen gets Guys trying to be over nice when she works as a trainer...donīt know. I am just nice to people and try to treat them with respect.

You make me glad that I am retired and didn't decide to supplement my retirement by becoming a trainer for seniors....not that I even have time to do this. I can see where it is a real balancing act; you want to be nice, but you don't want to lead anyone on.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 17, 2013, 06:49:00 PM
karen i'll see you in 10 yrs,,,
Steve that's exactly why I said this to my client.  I knew it was impossible.  He was never going to get that kind of physquie.  I actually prefer more asthetic looking physquies over the bloated roid gut bodybuilders of present. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 17, 2013, 06:49:38 PM
Steve you look better(no homo) athletic and muscular. Believe me most young men in the Gym want your type of look.
QFT
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 17, 2013, 06:51:10 PM
In Germany they call you "sie" which is like impersonal..if you spoke to a stranger or it used to be if you spoke to an older person or a person you do not know. In the Gym we say "du" which is personal and normally said if you are close or friends. If you say du and say first name then itīs very open and trusting...which most of the younger Germans are. Really itīs old school grammar.
Interesting  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 17, 2013, 06:52:49 PM
Steve that's exactly why I said this to my client.  I knew it was impossible.  He was never going to get that kind of physquie.  I actually prefer more asthetic looking physquies over the bloated roid gut bodybuilders of present. 
i hear u karen,,,cutler is enormous structure wise and large all around and good shape,pecs/delts traps ,,sick thickness but alot goes into being that way other than training/eating/diet,,,endless needles or dosage are required,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 06:54:33 PM
THIS IS MY FAVORITE THREAD ,,,AND I POST HERE EVERY DAY,,,AND THE HALF NAKED SHOTS DONE IN GOOD TASTE :P...

Half naked??? LOL!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 17, 2013, 06:55:23 PM
Anyway I just wasted my time trying to get some sun.  I coated myself in coconut oil, lay in the sun for approx 20 mins and then the clouds start coming.  I am laying there with no sun.  I really wanted an hour today as it's been raining all week and I have felt mentally beat.  So now I have flat hair from my sun hat and marks from my sunglasses on my nose.  It will take all day for them to go.  I still can't really wear sunglasses at this stage.  So I only wear them when I have to.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 17, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
Anyway I just wasted my time trying to get some sun.  I coated myself in coconut oil, lay in the sun for approx 20 mins and then the clouds start coming.  I am laying there with no sun.  I really wanted an hour today as it's been raining all week and I have felt mentally beat.  So now I have flat hair from my sun hat and marks from my sunglasses on my nose.  It will take all day for them to go.  I still can't really wear sunglasses at this stage.  So I only wear them when I have to.  
i'm jelly,,,,its getting warmer in jersey tho,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 17, 2013, 06:57:35 PM
i hear u karen,,,cutler is enormous structure wise and large all around and good shape,pecs/delts traps ,,sick thickness but alot goes into being that way other than training/eating/diet,,,endless needles or dosage are required,,,,

I like natty bodybuilders.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 17, 2013, 06:58:33 PM
i'm jelly,,,,its getting warmer in jersey tho,,,
I have the fan on and its autumn and will be winter on the 1st of June. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 07:05:39 PM
You don't have to be pretty George.  You don't even have to post your face...you can edit that out.  Don't do anything that makes you feel uncomfortable or regrettable.  We don't need pics of one another in here at the end of the day.  Our words and logs are enough.  8)  

Well Karen, I think that is easy to say since you know what I look like and I know what you look like....facially and to a degree otherwise too. Frankly you are way "prettier" than I am. Donny suggested we use our real names here, which takes away some of the anonymity, but on the other hand makes us all better friends. Friends trust each other. I think Donny is onto something here.

Let me tell you a funny story. Awhile back I was reading a post that included your photo when my wife was in the room. She kiddingly asked me if you were my girlfriend. I told her that yes, we were long distance friends, since you live on the other side of the world. I think I already mentioned that my wife and I are secure enough in our relationship that she knew I was kidding her. You'll get no nasty gram from her.

I agree with you on one aspect of what you told George, each of us has a different comfort zone and whatever one's is, is cool.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 07:37:33 PM
Steve you look better(no homo) athletic and muscular. Believe me most young men in the Gym want your type of look.

I know Steve that you have become my new inspiration....also (no homo). You are way, way younger than I am and I probably can never look as fit as you do, but the fun is in the trying.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 07:42:15 PM
Good Girl... some people just donīt understand you are working like any other job. Another thing is people call me by my first name, which is ok but sort of think we are friends. I am quite a casual guy but some people try to take advantage.

My massage therapist and I are good friends. It would be really weird if I called him Mr. Williams. Not only that but he is gay and partnered. Trust me, there are no "happy endings." He is a professional, through and through. One happy ending and he could lose his LMT.

The idea some people have that everyone is fair game for sex is just ludicrous.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 07:43:43 PM
forearms i think the old school rope with weight attached up/down/up/down repeat 3x and wrist curls behind back with cable machine..

Not a criticism really because your arms are amazing, but dude, you need to get some sun.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 07:47:24 PM
In Germany they call you "sie" which is like impersonal..if you spoke to a stranger or it used to be if you spoke to an older person or a person you do not know. In the Gym we say "du" which is personal and normally said if you are close or friends. If you say du and say first name then itīs very open and trusting...which most of the younger Germans are. Really itīs old school grammar.

I am sure my son knows all this language culture. I unfortunately am a huge failure when I comes to learning German, the first language of three of my grandchildren. They all speak fluent English or we'd just sit around smiling at each other at family gatherings.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 17, 2013, 07:48:12 PM
Well Karen, I think that is easy to say since you know what I look like and I know what you look like....facially and to a degree otherwise too. Frankly you are way "prettier" than I am. Donny suggested we use our real names here, which takes away some of the anonymity, but on the other hand makes us all better friends. Friends trust each other. I think Donny is onto something here.

Let me tell you a funny story. Awhile back I was reading a post that included your photo when my wife was in the room. She kiddingly asked me if you were my girlfriend. I told her that yes, we were long distance friends, since you live on the other side of the world. I think I already mentioned that my wife and I are secure enough in our relationship that she knew I was kidding her. You'll get no nasty gram from her.

I agree with you on one aspect of what you told George, each of us has a different comfort zone and whatever one's is, is cool.

I trust you guys in here.  Not sure about wild willie though (joke).  I know you all would never try to attack me with anything I ever told you and that we support and help each other.  I hold back alot lately here because that nutter lulu/woten was taking info that I posted here and making comments about it on other forums.  I also have a stalker who made a blog about me and posted photoshopped pics of my daughters head onto a womans naked body and was making threats towards me.  I got the cyber police involved.  I notice that these nutters always imply everyone is my boyfriend.  Anyway your comment is funny because I know its innocent and I think that its awesome you are secure with your wife.  It's the only way to be in a lasting long term relationship.  I honestly can't see a relationship going the distance unless there is security with both parties.  I know I appear to be flirty etc but I am very very loyal and faithful and trust and respect are at the top of my list when it comes to a partnership/relationship.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 17, 2013, 07:48:20 PM
I know Steve that you have become my new inspiration....also (no homo). You are way, way younger than I am and I probably can never look as fit as you do, but the fun is in the trying.
ur training is on the right track jay,,,training is foremost and the diet aspect goes into it as well,,,i love both parts,,i have a very clear picture when i'm in the gym,,when i pack meals,i want to look like a statue,,lean,with right size that my fram could handle without losing its overall balance,genes play a big role in this,and what u do with them,,u can focus on weaker parts,but u can't change the overall genes given,insertions,shape,its luck of the draw,,,but its sure fun trying...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 17, 2013, 07:52:34 PM
Not a criticism really because your arms are amazing, but dude, you need to get some sun.
lol,,true,,soon ,,i get good color a few times in sun,,,i just don't overdue it ,,no more tanning beds,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 07:54:24 PM
Anyway I just wasted my time trying to get some sun.  I coated myself in coconut oil, lay in the sun for approx 20 mins and then the clouds start coming.  I am laying there with no sun.  I really wanted an hour today as it's been raining all week and I have felt mentally beat.  So now I have flat hair from my sun hat and marks from my sunglasses on my nose.  It will take all day for them to go.  I still can't really wear sunglasses at this stage.  So I only wear them when I have to.  

I recently broke out the coconut oil. I have been slathering it on my old skin and surprisingly, it is beginning to look better already. My hope is that it will reduce the scarring from the prostatectomy. When I took that photo in the locker room last week, I noticed that it looks like I have two belly buttons because there is a small scar, which is about 3 or 4" long from my belly button up to where one of the arms of the robot went inside of me. Gross....I know. But think how scarred I'd have been a decade or so ago before robotic surgery was available.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 08:02:22 PM
I trust you guys in here.  Not sure about wild willie though (joke).  I know you all would never try to attack me with anything I ever told you and that we support and help each other.  I hold back alot lately here because that nutter lulu/woten was taking info that I posted here and making comments about it on other forums.  I also have a stalker who made a blog about me and posted photoshopped pics of my daughters head onto a womans naked body and was making threats towards me.  I got the cyber police involved.  I notice that these nutters always imply everyone is my boyfriend.  Anyway your comment is funny because I know its innocent and I think that its awesome you are secure with your wife.  It's the only way to be in a lasting long term relationship.  I honestly can't see a relationship going the distance unless there is security with both parties.  I know I appear to be flirty etc but I am very very loyal and faithful and trust and respect are at the top of my list when it comes to a partnership/relationship.  

I believe you. You are a woman with normal emotions and needs. You are attractive and proud of it. You seem less inhibited than some folks which speaks to you being very secure with who you are. Unfortunately, there are a lot of folks on Getbig and all over the Internet who are grossly immature and judgmental. I think this is similar to folks who accuse others of lying all the time and who are probably the least honest folk you'd ever want to know. These jerks never hesitate to ridicule others for behaviors they deem inappropriate, when the probably need to take a hard look at their own lives before they cast stones.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 08:08:18 PM
lol,,true,,soon ,,i get good color a few times in sun,,,i just don't overdue it ,,no more tanning beds,

If you lived where I do, you might be singing a different tune. Truthfully, I am not a likely candidate for skin cancer, considering my completion. If I were to go all fall, winter and spring without a dose of rays from the tanning bed, someone would probably commit me before I committed suicide. I get seriously depressed when I don't get some sun, fake or otherwise. I think it pays to know what your skin can take. Of course, winters in Hawaii would be much better....send me money and that's what I'll do come next fall.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 17, 2013, 08:09:56 PM
If you lived where I do, you might be singing a different tune. Truthfully, I am not a likely candidate for skin cancer, considering my completion. If I were to go all fall, winter and spring without a dose of rays from the tanning bed, someone would probably commit me before I committed suicide. I get seriously depressed when I don't get some sun, fake or otherwise. I think it pays to know what your skin can take. Of course, winters in Hawaii would be much better....send me money and that's what I'll do come next fall.  ;D
nice,,,keep up the good work/training,,be positive,,,visual
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 17, 2013, 08:13:15 PM
I believe you. You are a woman with normal emotions and needs. You are attractive and proud of it. You seem less inhibited than some folks which speaks to you being very secure with who you are. Unfortunately, there are a lot of folks on Getbig and all over the Internet who are grossly immature and judgmental. I think this is similar to folks who accuse others of lying all the time and who are probably the least honest folk you'd ever want to know. These jerks never hesitate to ridicule others for behaviors they deem inappropriate, when the probably need to take a hard look at their own lives before they cast stones.
I agree.  I always say the ones doing the accusing are usually the ones who are guilty of doing what they accuse others of.  It's the same as a cheater.  The one who cheats is always trying to catch their partner out and accusing them of crap and are usually jealous for no reason.  They know what they do and so they expect others to be doing it too or to be the same as them.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 08:14:28 PM
I will post up today's workout tomorrow. Overall, my workout sucked. My energy was off. There could be a number of reasons for this:

1. I am due for a testosterone shot on Monday.
2. It has been raining for the last several days.
3. I am overdoing it (if this is the case, it sucks).
4. It was just an off day.

Tomorrow I work quads and calves. My right knee has been giving me trouble all day, like I might have wrenched it. I think this has me a bit bummed out. I want legs like Steve. You have set the bar high and I want to be up for the challenge. This fucking knee pain will be gone tomorrow or I will just ignore it!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 17, 2013, 08:15:30 PM
I rubbed some coconut oil in my eye by accident.   >:(  So now I have flat hat hair, marks from sunglasses on nose and a red bung eye.  Great....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 17, 2013, 08:16:46 PM
lol,,true,,soon ,,i get good color a few times in sun,,,i just don't overdue it ,,no more tanning beds,
Tanning beds are dangerous.  God knows I have done my fair share though.  I don't do them anymore though.  I stick to the natural rays.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 08:17:57 PM
I agree.  I always say the ones doing the accusing are usually the ones who are guilty of doing what they accuse others of.  It's the same as a cheater.  The one who cheats is always trying to catch their partner out and accusing them of crap and are usually jealous for no reason.  They know what they do and so they expect others to be doing it too or to be the same as them.  

In my experience, this has really proved to be true. Good friends of my wife and mine when we were much younger are a good example. The husband was insanely accusing his wife of cheating on him when all the while, it was he that was doing the cheating....bazar!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 08:20:24 PM
Tanning beds are dangerous.  God knows I have done my fair share though.  I don't do them anymore though.  I stick to the natural rays.

Bully for you...send some my way and I would gladly give up the tanning coffin. Did I ever mention that I am claustrophobic?

Gotta go now. My wife, daughter and I are going to watch the movie 7 psychopaths.....my daughter insists that it is a comedy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 09:28:27 PM
Well Karen, I think that is easy to say since you know what I look like and I know what you look like....facially and to a degree otherwise too. Frankly you are way "prettier" than I am. Donny suggested we use our real names here, which takes away some of the anonymity, but on the other hand makes us all better friends. Friends trust each other. I think Donny is onto something here.

Let me tell you a funny story. Awhile back I was reading a post that included your photo when my wife was in the room. She kiddingly asked me if you were my girlfriend. I told her that yes, we were long distance friends, since you live on the other side of the world. I think I already mentioned that my wife and I are secure enough in our relationship that she knew I was kidding her. You'll get no nasty gram from her.

I agree with you on one aspect of what you told George, each of us has a different comfort zone and whatever one's is, is cool.

My intention was to have a serious thread for mature trainers and frendship.. i really did not expect such warm loving people on here...THANKS... you make it happen and i love reading posts here Daily.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2013, 10:49:55 PM
My intention was to have a serious thread for mature trainers and frendship.. i really did not expect such warm loving people on here...THANKS... you make it happen and i love reading posts here Daily.

Donny,

You have created a monster, but it is a wonderful monster. I see us all becoming fast friends and also sharing our training experiences to the benefit of all who come here. The mature forum on Getbig is like an island of sanity in a sea of insanity. I feel like I am forever in you debt for hatching this idea. You are an amazing and wonderful person. Your heart and your soul is what makes this forum work.

I am so thrilled to be here now, at this time in my life. Posting my daily workouts is hugely inspirational to me. What did you say about dying and dying fit? Maybe me more than anyone here realizes that death is eminent. I am okay with being old and maybe near the end of my time here in this life. We have a choice, which I have firsthand experience with. One can die a miserably slow death as my wife is doing. At best these people are fading away illness upon illness and too far gone to redeem their health. This is not the vision I have for myself. When I was in my late 30's I had an inguinal hernia repaired. The doctor said to my wife, "Your husband has the body of a teenager." How flattering was that?

I clearly no longer am as fit as a teenager,  I am in great shape though for an old man. I give credit to this because of a lifelong commitment to living a fit and healthy life which includes weight training.

If I have nothing more of value to offer to Donny's forum creation, I can offer that it is far better to die fit then to die suffering from ailments which for the most part resulted from ignoring the concepts of what makes one healthy.

Thank you Donny for creating a forum where folk who are serious about being healthy can post how they are working to maintain optimum heath via exercise and weight training.

You are an amazing fellow. I love you to bits (no homo, because this seems necessary to exclaim) because you cared enough and had the insight to realizes this was a subject for a forum that was truly needed. You are a visionary!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2013, 11:35:26 PM
I am speechless Jay.. but i Fucking love you all...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 17, 2013, 11:44:08 PM
I agree.  I always say the ones doing the accusing are usually the ones who are guilty of doing what they accuse others of.  It's the same as a cheater.  The one who cheats is always trying to catch their partner out and accusing them of crap and are usually jealous for no reason.  They know what they do and so they expect others to be doing it too or to be the same as them.  
Exactly. The cheaters know the game.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 18, 2013, 12:42:32 AM
I rubbed some coconut oil in my eye by accident.   >:(  So now I have flat hat hair, marks from sunglasses on nose and a red bung eye.  Great....

Interesting that something as natural as coconut oil would irritate your eye. I use coco butter on my skin. Is this different from coconut oil? The positive affects of cocobutter are almost immediate in my case. I may end up being the oldest man with the youngest skin, if I can remember to apply it daily.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 18, 2013, 12:53:31 AM
Interesting that something as natural as coconut oil would irritate your eye. I use cocobutter on my skin. Is this different from coconut oil? The positive affects of cocobutter are almost immediate in my case. I may end up being the oldest man with the youngest skin, if I can remember to apply it daily.
although i have dry skin i rarley use creams or such.. coconut oil sounds great. Karen what can you recommend for dry skin ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 18, 2013, 01:01:50 AM
donīt wanna look like this.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 18, 2013, 01:11:23 AM
donīt wanna look like this.... ;D

I will beat the piss out of that thing with a ball bat.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 18, 2013, 01:22:52 AM
I will beat the piss out of that thing with a ball bat.
yes i am sure you will...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 18, 2013, 01:27:53 AM
How is your training going Donny? I can't recall seeing a pic of you in judging the GB 3 contest maybe it's my memory slowly going away.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 18, 2013, 03:14:13 AM
I will beat the piss out of that thing with a ball bat.
Omgggggggg  No you will not.  I love lizards, they are gorgous.  I am not into reptiles however I love frilled neck lizards and bearded dragon.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 18, 2013, 03:15:48 AM
Bully for you...send some my way and I would gladly give up the tanning coffin. Did I ever mention that I am claustrophobic?

Gotta go now. My wife, daughter and I are going to watch the movie 7 psychopaths.....my daughter insists that it is a comedy.
Enjoy Jay, although it sounds like a thriller not a comedy. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 18, 2013, 03:17:20 AM
i Fucking love you all...

 X 2 except for wild willie (joke) 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 18, 2013, 03:20:38 AM
Interesting that something as natural as coconut oil would irritate your eye. I use cocobutter on my skin. Is this different from coconut oil? The positive affects of cocobutter are almost immediate in my case. I may end up being the oldest man with the youngest skin, if I can remember to apply it daily.

I am an oil person but I know that cocoabutter is very moisturizing.  Its very good for your skin.  It seals the moisture in.  I love the sheen on the skin that oil gives you, plus I like to feel as though I am wearing something.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 18, 2013, 03:42:19 AM
How is your training going Donny? I can't recall seeing a pic of you in judging the GB 3 contest maybe it's my memory slowly going away.
Training is great.. thank you for asking. Judging the GB3 not sure what you are on about ? maybe you are getting confused. Donīt sit in the sun too long ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 18, 2013, 06:46:01 AM
Training is great.. thank you for asking. Judging the GB3 not sure what you are on about ? maybe you are getting confused. Donīt sit in the sun too long ;)
This one the last one here. Xerces, chaos and myself judged it.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=397164.0
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 18, 2013, 07:02:04 AM
Omgggggggg  No you will not.  I love lizards, they are gorgous.  I am not into reptiles however I love frilled neck lizards and bearded dragon.
Just joking I don't hurt animals. Had two dogs and a cat once now down to one dog the other two died.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 18, 2013, 07:16:49 AM
so today is a rest Day for me. Tomorrow i will go to the Gym and do some interval training. i enjoy the intensity. i will then do some Abs on the floor.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 18, 2013, 01:56:48 PM
Enjoy Jay, although it sounds like a thriller not a comedy. 

We never got around to watching it, so I don't know if it is thrilling or funny. Maybe tonight we will find out.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 18, 2013, 02:21:21 PM
Friday - pecs:

ISO flat bench press, 5X12-4 @ 70 to 150 added weight
ISO incline bench press, 4X12-6 @ 70 to 140 added weight
ISO decline wide bench press, 4X12-5 @ 90 to 180 added weight
Nautilus weight assisted dips, 3X10-6 @ 116 to 156
Nautilus pec deck, 3X12-7 @ 76 to 116
Nautilus super pullover, 3X12-8 @ 100 to 140
Body Masters seated fly's, 3X10 @ 60 lbs.

Frankly, this was not my best workout this week. My energy levels were low for some reason. I need to find out exactly what the ISO equipment adds in terms of weight to the total resistance because it bums me out not being able to go heavier. On all three ISO exercises I did go to failure on the last set. Failure being unable to complete the movement fully.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 18, 2013, 02:23:52 PM
Saturday is quads and calves workout day. I wrenched my right knee yesterday. I don't have any idea how I did this, but it hurts just to walk. I was going to go to the gym and suffer through it, but came to my senses. If it is better tomorrow, I will do Saturday's routine on Sunday, if not, I will skip it for a week.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 18, 2013, 02:35:33 PM
Saturday is quads and calves workout day. I wrenched my right knee yesterday. I don't have any idea how I did this, but it hurts just to walk. I was going to go to the gym and suffer through it, but came to my senses. If it is better tomorrow, I will do Saturday's routine on Sunday, if not, I will skip it for a week.
I messed up my back once doing a 600lb dead went to a chiropractor he fixed but it flairs up now and then. So I am thinking maybe you had a knee injury earlier and flare up occurs. My low back still flares up now and then but I got this twists I do that relieves it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 18, 2013, 02:36:22 PM
legs tommorrow had to work sat :P,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 18, 2013, 04:55:07 PM
I messed up my back once doing a 600lb dead went to a chiropractor he fixed but it flairs up now and then. So I am thinking maybe you had a knee injury earlier and flare up occurs. My low back still flares up now and then but I got this twists I do that relieves it.

I did injure my knee when I was a teenager. You won't believe this, but I did it doing the twist which was a popular dance in those days. I popped my knee out and then right back in. Never-the-less, it swelled up like a balloon. I went to the doctor the next day. He gave me a shot right in the knee and it got better. When some folks get older, they get osteoarthritis. I have it in my back and my thumbs and my right knee. Maybe some injuries cause osteoarthritis. Anyway, I think I made the right decision not to work quads today. My knee is starting to feel better. I  rubbed sports cream into it when I got up this morning. I may apply some more later today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 18, 2013, 05:23:28 PM
Enjoy Jay, although it sounds like a thriller not a comedy.  

We just finished watching Seven Psychopaths. It is a comedy, albeit a bloody one.  ;)

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 19, 2013, 01:48:04 AM
We just finished watch Seven Psychopaths. It is a comedy, albeit a bloody one.  ;)


looks a great film...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 19, 2013, 01:50:19 AM
This one the last one here. Xerces, chaos and myself judged it.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=397164.0
yes ok had a look through.. could not remember it..maybe my memory is going.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 19, 2013, 01:51:38 AM
i feel like going for a swim today...sit in the whirlpool a bit...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 19, 2013, 10:52:27 AM
After treating my knee all day yesterday, it feels better today. I am considering getting my quad workout in today. I did a few bodyweight squats this morning. They did not bother my knee, so I hope it is good to go.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 19, 2013, 11:12:21 AM
After treating my knee all day yesterday, it feels better today. I am considering getting my quad workout in today. I did a few bodyweight squats this morning. They did not bother my knee, so I hope it is good to go.
yes i hope so Jay...i just went for a run in the woods, was a nice Day today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 19, 2013, 12:21:34 PM
leg day  :P...

here goes
leg press warmed up 2 plates then 3 ....started 5 plates x12,6 plates x12,7 plates x10,7.5 x10
squatted next close foot stance 225 x12,275 x10,315 x10,365 x10,,
lunges 50 dbs walking 2x
extensions 235 x3 12 reps set last set dropped for full set 15

hams
sldl dbell 50/65/70 10/12
lying leg curl 140/155 x3

calves seated and standing 3 and 3 not supersetted heavier loads reps lower 10 range ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 19, 2013, 12:32:37 PM
leg day  :P...

here goes
leg press warmed up 2 plates then 3 ....started 5 plates x12,6 plates x12,7 plates x10,7.5 x10
squatted next close foot stance 225 x12,275 x10,315 x10,365 x10,,
lunges 50 dbs walking 2x
extensions 235 x3 12 reps set last set dropped for full set 15

hams
sldl dbell 50/65/70 10/12
lying leg curl 140/155 x3

calves seated and standing 3 and 3 not supersetted heavier loads reps lower 10 range ..

The leg press at the gym where I work out has 100 lb. plates. Although I have used as much as 8 plates in the past, I don't feel like I can go knees to chest with this much weight. I've notice some folks who have good leg development doing partials. What are your thoughts about this? I always believe that full range exercises are superior to partials, but then, I could be wrong about this....it wouldn't be the first time I was mistaken.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 19, 2013, 02:50:20 PM
I trained back and delts yesterday and then later went for an hour brisk walk outdoors.  I cut my coffee down from 2-3 cups per day to 1 cup per day and had a headach for most of yesterday afternoon/evening. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 19, 2013, 03:25:15 PM
We just finished watch Seven Psychopaths. It is a comedy, albeit a bloody one.  ;)


Glad you enjoyed it Jay.   :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 19, 2013, 03:39:10 PM
The leg press at the gym where I work out has 100 lb. plates. Although I have used as much as 8 plates in the past, I don't feel like I can go knees to chest with this much weight. I've notice some folks who have good leg development doing partials. What are your thoughts about this? I always believe that full range exercises are superior to partials, but then, I could be wrong about this....it wouldn't be the first time I was mistaken.
good points jay  clarify,,,,every leg press is different u can look like a mro strenght wise on one and a rank amatuer on others weird,,one we have is small /narrow /small foot plate can/t go too wide nor high,,,after heavier plates added 8 to 9 gets tougher to knee to chest,,,some people pile weight on top after they run out of room on pegs,,not one of them could touch my leg development,,nother guy today saw my legs through my track sweat pants and said those are thick legs u got stretching the pants side to side,,i have pressed 10/11 plates on some and the one here i mentioned i use 8 at the most it literally crushes me :P,,,i would say after maxxing knee to chest some heavy partials help in the process so 'yes'to some partials,,funny thing is most people who use this press have the seat pegs up 1 0r 2 or more from bottom which is helpful less on the top portion ,,i use last peg on pad long way down compared to eevn 1 peg up,,,1 peg up i can actually add another 45 and more reps with say 8 plates as opposed to 8 plates and last peg on back rest,,,its the backrest sorry jay forgot to explain is tougher all the way down.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 19, 2013, 05:08:12 PM
I trained back and delts yesterday and then later went for an hour brisk walk outdoors.  I cut my coffee down from 2-3 cups per day to 1 cup per day and had a headach for most of yesterday afternoon/evening. 
Caffiene withdrawal same as any drug takes time so nice you are dropping back booty.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 19, 2013, 05:30:55 PM
Caffiene withdrawal same as any drug takes time so nice you are dropping back booty.
I just think that coffee is very dehydrating.  Since it's not as hot I have noticed that I am not drinking as much water.  So I have decreased my coffee and increased my water intake.  I might even cut the one coffee out in the morning completely.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 19, 2013, 05:58:27 PM
I just think that coffee is very dehydrating.  Since it's not as hot I have noticed that I am not drinking as much water.  So I have decreased my coffee and increased my water intake.  I might even cut the one coffee out in the morning completely.
Thats good, water is boring though you got to be tough to get through the withdrawal.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 19, 2013, 09:54:05 PM
Thats good, water is boring though you got to be tough to get through the withdrawal.
I don't have a headache today, yet.  I only dropped two cups per day.  But I am serious about cutting that last cup out.  I have already thought ahead and decided that when I see my girlfriends for lunch/coffee I will order a hot chocolate on soy instead.  I usually get a soy mocha.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 20, 2013, 01:35:58 AM
I don't have a headache today, yet.  I only dropped two cups per day.  But I am serious about cutting that last cup out.  I have already thought ahead and decided that when I see my girlfriends for lunch/coffee I will order a hot chocolate on soy instead.  I usually get a soy mocha.
That's good discipline.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 20, 2013, 02:21:08 AM
That's good discipline.
It is because I love my coffees in the morning.  Anyway no headache today, yay.  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 20, 2013, 02:31:13 AM
It is because I love my coffees in the morning.  Anyway no headache today, yay.  :)
Just a question what brand of coffee do you use? I used to drink ten cups a day training for contests I quit just drink diet coke now.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 20, 2013, 04:18:43 AM
Just a question what brand of coffee do you use? I used to drink ten cups a day training for contests I quit just drink diet coke now.
I drink an italian brand, I can't remember the name.  I just switched to it as its smooth and medium strength. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 20, 2013, 05:45:56 AM
I drink an italian brand, I can't remember the name.  I just switched to it as its smooth and medium strength. 
MELITTA/LAVAZZA
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 20, 2013, 06:57:55 AM
I drink an italian brand, I can't remember the name.  I just switched to it as its smooth and medium strength. 
I suspect it is made in China, they just the Italian label on it.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 20, 2013, 08:18:13 AM
Hope everyone had a pleasant weekend.......I will train chest this eve.......incline smith, incline flyes and seated machine presses.


Ending with 20 minutes on the treadmill.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 20, 2013, 09:08:01 AM
Hope everyone had a pleasant weekend.......I will train chest this eve.......incline smith, incline flyes and seated machine presses.


Ending with 20 minutes on the treadmill.
good stuff George...stick with the walking. I just finished work, itīs a Bank Holiday here... i have tomorrow off so i will train tomorrow. I will just mong out now...i am hungry... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 20, 2013, 02:32:58 PM
This video i like.. shows Saito Sensei showing basic ken teqniques...i enjoy the kata with ken and jo.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 20, 2013, 03:52:57 PM
MELITTA/LAVAZZA
Yes yes that's the one.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 20, 2013, 04:17:56 PM
A group i loved in the 80s....A Glasgow Band

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 20, 2013, 04:25:33 PM
Yes yes that's the one.   ;D
sounds very sophisticated... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 20, 2013, 06:15:37 PM
good points jay  clarify,,,,every leg press is different u can look like a mro strenght wise on one and a rank amatuer on others weird,,one we have is small /narrow /small foot plate can/t go too wide nor high,,,after heavier plates added 8 to 9 gets tougher to knee to chest,,,some people pile weight on top after they run out of room on pegs,,not one of them could touch my leg development,,nother guy today saw my legs through my track sweat pants and said those are thick legs u got stretching the pants side to side,,i have pressed 10/11 plates on some and the one here i mentioned i use 8 at the most it literally crushes me :P,,,i would say after maxxing knee to chest some heavy partials help in the process so 'yes'to some partials,,funny thing is most people who use this press have the seat pegs up 1 0r 2 or more from bottom which is helpful less on the top portion ,,i use last peg on pad long way down compared to eevn 1 peg up,,,1 peg up i can actually add another 45 and more reps with say 8 plates as opposed to 8 plates and last peg on back rest,,,its the backrest sorry jay forgot to explain is tougher all the way down.

 :'( :'( :'( I didn't work legs Saturday thinking my knee might be better yesterday, but it wasn't so I decided to skip a week to let my knee heal from whatever ails it. Tomorrow, I would normally work hams and calves. I am going to skip that too this week. Just normal walking or standing aggravates my right knee. Today is the one day a month I have a board meeting in the middle of the day, by the time I got home it was past my usual time to hit the gym. I am going to work arms tomorrow which is what I missed today. Hopefully, I'll be back on track next week with legs. Although I tend to wear somewhat baggy pants, there is no way anyone will be telling me I have thick legs anytime soon. So for now, you win!

There are two leg press machines at the gym. One of them is pretty simple. It does have an angled foot plate with a padded area at the bottom for working calves. People using this leg press, load it with 45 lb. plates. The other leg press is a monster machine. I think it is a Hammer Strength machine. There are several places to add the weight to this machine. I adjust it so that the back angle and the top part of the foot plate are parallel. I usually go pretty wide. Only occasionally do I go narrow. I generally reserve that position for hack squats.

If my knee doesn't shape up pretty soon, I may have a x-ray to find out what the heck is going on in there. It is still somewhat swollen.

 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 20, 2013, 06:19:40 PM
I don't have a headache today, yet.  I only dropped two cups per day.  But I am serious about cutting that last cup out.  I have already thought ahead and decided that when I see my girlfriends for lunch/coffee I will order a hot chocolate on soy instead.  I usually get a soy mocha.

Although tea has caffeine too, I believe it is better for you than coffee. Do you have a Starbucks where you live? In warm weather their Chai Frappuccino is out of this world. I had a hot Chai Latte this morning on my drive down to Salem for my meeting. That's good too. Of course there is always green tea which is very beneficial to one's health. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 20, 2013, 06:25:36 PM
A group i loved in the 80s....A Glasgow Band


Fixed.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 20, 2013, 07:03:50 PM
Although tea has caffeine too, I believe it is better for you than coffee. Do you have a Starbucks where you live? In warm weather their Chai Frappuccino is out of this world. I had a hot Chai Latte this morning on my drive down to Salem for my meeting. That's good too. Of course there is always green tea which is very beneficial to one's health. 
I gave up tea months ago.  I only drank a couple of cups at night but I was peeing too much in the night.  I felt better for giving it up.  We don't have a starbucks where I live.   :(  But maybe thats a good thing otherwise I would be too tempted to drink their yummy drinks.  I always drink starbucks when I go to the USA.  Last time I had one was when I was passing through du bai at the international airport.  It was soooo good since I was so tired/jetlagged.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 20, 2013, 07:04:52 PM
sounds very sophisticated... ;D
It is Donny   :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 20, 2013, 07:11:58 PM
I gave up tea months ago.  I only drank a couple of cups at night but I was peeing too much in the night.  I felt better for giving it up.  We don't have a starbucks where I live.   :(  But maybe thats a good thing otherwise I would be too tempted to drink their yummy drinks.  I always drink starbucks when I go to the USA.  Last time I had one was when I was passing through du bai at the international airport.  It was soooo good since I was so tired/jetlagged.
I just went to Starbucks yesterday I got one around the corner. A hot blonde was there I was checking her she had a nice butt on her but I did not approach her.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 20, 2013, 07:21:49 PM
 
I just went to Starbucks yesterday I got one around the corner. A hot blonde was there I was checking her she had a nice butt on her but I did not approach her.
???,,,,,cmon stud show her those biceps,,, ;),,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 20, 2013, 07:37:13 PM
chest 2 nite been creative since my slight setback but i'm steamrolling full throttle minus the bigger weights,,,but i'm doing some drops/supersets..

1...flat dumbells climbing up steep hill at times lol,,,used to warm up with 60's but ehh,,started 45/55/65/65 reps and form getting better still a tad weak at left shoulder in this position if i lost some reps with 65's i drop to 50 for a few more here's the creative thing..pump..good.
2...inc dumbell x3 supeset with inc flyes 50 lb dbell with 30 db flye/55 dbell to 35 flye /55 dbell and again 35 but lost some steam on both drop set to lower weights to get additional reps ok,,,
3...seated hammer low/mid press 2 45's per side 3x 10/12
4,,,cable crossovers x3 15/12/12/
5 ...dips getting better 8 reps 1st set,8 2nd ,3rd i had to stop and rest sec back up for few more,,,i could not do '1'few wks ago ,,so  ;D...

tris
overhead rope extensionsx4
pushdowns x3
dip machine x3
2 set cable extensions facing mirror pull cable down top of the hand faces mirror kinda angle it straight out slight bend at elbow...

abs 2 exercises

pic of my' arnold esque pecs' lol  growing by the week,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 20, 2013, 08:54:20 PM
fantastic chest workout tonight!!!!


outrageous pump......did 25 minutes instead of 20 minutes on treadmill......my endurance is getting a bit better.



next week i will switch to the elliptical.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 20, 2013, 09:07:42 PM
LOOKING SENSATIONAL STEVERINO!!!



NEXT TIME I AM IN JERSEY......I AM HOOKING UP WITH YOU AND WE ARE GETTING SOME FINE WINE AND VEAL MILANESE!!!!!



WE WILL HAVE TO FLY DONNY AND JAY IN AS WELL......AND AFTER DINNER.......CIGARS!!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 20, 2013, 09:25:56 PM
I just went to Starbucks yesterday I got one around the corner. A hot blonde was there I was checking her she had a nice butt on her but I did not approach her.

I've backed off on the sometimes twice daily Starbuck's visits. There are 3 Starbuck stores near me; each about a mile from my house. Makes it hard to resist. I have a Gold card which I load up once a month or so. That way, I am not quite as aware of how much money I am spending at Starbucks, plus I get a free drink every 15 purchases.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 20, 2013, 09:56:36 PM
 ???,,,,,cmon stud show her those biceps,,, ;),,,
Haha   ;D  That doesn't always work Donny.  She might think he's a dickhead....I know I would.   :D  It's best if Mr Nobody just talks to her normally...have a conversation and is himself.  Women like this.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 20, 2013, 10:01:25 PM
I am really tired of peeing constantly.  I am going through two rolls of toilet paper per day.   :-\  I can't go more than ten minutes without having to go.  I trained chest and delts today.  Spent a third of the time peeing and washing my hands.

Chest,delts

db chest presses x 5 sets
pec deck machine x4 sets
db shoulder presses (seated) x 4 sets
db lateral raises x 3 sets

I am doing cardio in just over an hour.  It's outdoors so I am going to have to hold my bladder like I did yesterday.  I will aim for an hour again.

Edit*  Cancelled my brisk walk as my throat feels sore and I feel like I have some sinus thing happening.  The flu is going around here...one of my girlfriends just got over it.  I will go for my walk in the morning if I am up to it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 20, 2013, 11:40:06 PM
I am really tired of peeing constantly.  I am going through two rolls of toilet paper per day.   :-\  I can't go more than ten minutes without having to go.  I trained chest and delts today.  Spent a third of the time peeing and washing my hands.

Chest,delts

db chest presses x 5 sets
pec deck machine x4 sets
db shoulder presses (seated) x 4 sets
db lateral raises x 3 sets

I am doing cardio in just over an hour.  It's outdoors so I am going to have to hold my bladder like I did yesterday.  I will aim for an hour again.

Edit*  Cancelled my brisk walk as my throat feels sore and I feel like I have some sinus thing happening.  The flu is going around here...one of my girlfriends just got over it.  I will go for my walk in the morning if I am up to it.

When I am fighting something off, I pee a lot too. I don't get the flu though. Never had a flu shoot and never had the flu that I can remember. Colds are another story altogether.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 21, 2013, 01:45:29 AM
Haha   ;D  That doesn't always work Donny.  She might think he's a dickhead....I know I would.   :D  It's best if Mr Nobody just talks to her normally...have a conversation and is himself.  Women like this.
I never approach women. Women make the choice if they want you or not. So if at a bar or club eye contact is where it starts if a woman makes eye contact I just wait for her to make the next move if she does then I make the next move if not I walk out the door. A Psychological game.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 21, 2013, 02:10:04 AM
I am really tired of peeing constantly.  I am going through two rolls of toilet paper per day.   :-\  I can't go more than ten minutes without having to go.  I trained chest and delts today.  Spent a third of the time peeing and washing my hands.

Chest,delts

db chest presses x 5 sets
pec deck machine x4 sets
db shoulder presses (seated) x 4 sets
db lateral raises x 3 sets

I am doing cardio in just over an hour.  It's outdoors so I am going to have to hold my bladder like I did yesterday.  I will aim for an hour again.

Edit*  Cancelled my brisk walk as my throat feels sore and I feel like I have some sinus thing happening.  The flu is going around here...one of my girlfriends just got over it.  I will go for my walk in the morning if I am up to it.
Sounds like maybe a bladder infection. The pollen is bad here I had a sore throat a couple of days but gone away now. Good to see you are back into training.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 21, 2013, 02:57:48 AM
Sounds like maybe a bladder infection. The pollen is bad here I had a sore throat a couple of days but gone away now. Good to see you are back into training.
No I don't.  I am just drinking a lot of water and flushing my body.  My throat doesn't feel the best and behind my eyes either but other than that I am okay.  I will see how I feel in the morning. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 21, 2013, 02:58:24 AM
LOOKING SENSATIONAL STEVERINO!!!



NEXT TIME I AM IN JERSEY......I AM HOOKING UP WITH YOU AND WE ARE GETTING SOME FINE WINE AND VEAL MILANESE!!!!!



WE WILL HAVE TO FLY DONNY AND JAY IN AS WELL......AND AFTER DINNER.......CIGARS!!!!
sounds like a great idea George...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 21, 2013, 03:02:13 AM
No I don't.  I am just drinking a lot of water and flushing my body.  My throat doesn't feel the best and behind my eyes either but other than that I am okay.  I will see how I feel in the morning. 
well if you donīt feel better in the morning get a check up... but i am sure youīll be ok Karen.. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 21, 2013, 03:06:40 AM
well if you donīt feel better in the morning get a check up... but i am sure youīll be ok Karen.. ;)
I am sure I will be okay too Donny.  If I have a cold/virus then I am going to ride it out. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 21, 2013, 03:25:57 AM
I am sure I will be okay too Donny.  If I have a cold/virus then I am going to ride it out. 
Today i am at home so i will do a workout here. I will do ..

Flat BB Bench press 3x6-8
Flat Flyes 3x10-12
Incline BB press 3x10
Incline Flyes 3x10-12
some push ups to finish up with and then a run in the woods.

have a rest Day Karen..make yourself comfy on your sofa and watch a good film...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 21, 2013, 07:15:51 AM
Today i am at home so i will do a workout here. I will do ..

Flat BB Bench press 3x6-8
Flat Flyes 3x10-12
Incline BB press 3x10
Incline Flyes 3x10-12
some push ups to finish up with and then a run in the woods.

have a rest Day Karen..make yourself comfy on your sofa and watch a good film...
I kinda respond to same rep schemes,,low and some hi ,,,on chest I follow this,,other bodyparts higher reps,,i like heavy/volume training for chest,,awesome bodypart pumped,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 21, 2013, 09:29:03 AM
I never approach women. Women make the choice if they want you or not. So if at a bar or club eye contact is where it starts if a woman makes eye contact I just wait for her to make the next move if she does then I make the next move if not I walk out the door. A Psychological game.

I am happy not to have these issues. I was never good at playing games, psychological or otherwise. I've never met a woman at a bar with the intent of dating here. I have made friends both male and female just by chatting with them when they are already seated next to me. Of course having been with the same woman since I was 18 years old, picking up women wasn't something I was doing these past many years. Look what I've missed!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 21, 2013, 10:00:01 AM
I kinda respond to same rep schemes,,low and some hi ,,,on chest I follow this,,other bodyparts higher reps,,i like heavy/volume training for chest,,awesome bodypart pumped,,,
yes i find incline work better more reps and DB flyes too. I also hit triceps with mainly 12 reps and shoulder raises too. some exercises are better suited to higher reps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 21, 2013, 10:04:41 AM
yes i find incline work better more reps and DB flyes too. I also hit triceps with mainly 12 reps and shoulder raises too. some exercises are better suited to higher reps.
TOO LOW REPS TOO HEAVY OVER LONG HAUL,GRIND THE JOINTS DOWN,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 21, 2013, 10:09:31 AM
TOO LOW REPS TOO HEAVY OVER LONG HAUL,GRIND THE JOINTS DOWN,,,
very true and itīs good to mix it up...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 21, 2013, 10:27:32 AM
I will work back tonight:


partial deadlifts   4 sets

lat pulldowns    3 sets

one arm cable rows  3 sets

stiff arm pulldowns (rope)  3 sets

and will finish with 25 minutes on the treadmill.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 21, 2013, 03:24:43 PM
My throat is fine guys.  I woke up today and feel fine.  Maybe it was an allergy yesterday, who knows?  I didn't walk when I woke up though as it looks like its going to rain.  I don't like rain.  

Edit*  I am convinced it's allergy related as my eyes are itchy.  I have been rubbing them for the past hour and a half.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 21, 2013, 05:17:26 PM
TOO LOW REPS TOO HEAVY OVER LONG HAUL,GRIND THE JOINTS DOWN,,,

Well, right now I am trying to build them up, so I did 3 sets of 12 reps one legged leg lifts on the Nautilus @ 40 lbs. each. My bum knee feels much better. Guess I should have hit the gym Saturday, Sunday and Monday even if only to exercise that knee joint.

Tuesday - I did Monday's arm routine.

Seated alternate dumbbell curls, 5X12-4 @ 25 to 45 lbs.
Cable triceps press-down, 4X12-8 @ 107 to 147.5
Cable standing EZ curls, 4 X 12-6 @ 80 to 120.5
Flex seated triceps extension, 4X12-8 @ 50 to 80
Nautilus multi biceps, 3X12-8 @ 55 to 75
Nautilus seated parallel grip press-downs, 3X12-8 @ 110 to 130
Nautilus wrist curls, 3X12-8 @ 80 to 100
Cable reverse EZ curls, 3X12-8 @ 66.5 to 93.5

Arms felt pumped, but still no biceps peaks to speak of!  :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 21, 2013, 05:21:14 PM
yes i find incline work better more reps and DB flyes too. I also hit triceps with mainly 12 reps and shoulder raises too. some exercises are better suited to higher reps.

Yeah if they'd only stay that way into the next day and beyond. Oh well, you can always pump up your pecs by doing a set or two of pushups right before you walk into the pub. That should get the ladies swooning over your muscles ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 21, 2013, 05:28:18 PM
My throat is fine guys.  I woke up today and feel fine.  Maybe it was an allergy yesterday, who knows?  I didn't walk when I woke up though as it looks like its going to rain.  I don't like rain.  

Edit*  I am convinced it's allergy related as my eyes are itchy.  I have been rubbing them for the past hour and a half.

Spring and then fall are the worst time for allergies to vegetation in Oregon. I also think the warmer and wetter it is the more the mold spores multiply.

I am allergic to dogs, cats, feathers and dust. It is rarely dusty here. We have not had a cat in years. I tried not using feather pillows or a feather duvet, but I hated it. Our two dogs sleep on the bed....the little one sleeps under the covers. So much for allergies. I used to get shots and for couple of years, I took a med called Singulair which helps with allergies. I am sort of against too many meds though, so I quite taking it along with a couple of others that I felt weren't necessary. I can't recall the last time I had a cold, but it has been years.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 22, 2013, 01:29:34 AM
Itīs raining hard here and windy...oh well suppose i will train back in the Gym today and maybe cardio after work at 10 pm... ;D  Did some Parallel bar dips too yesterday and my delts always feel really good the next day..seems to have a very positive effect on them. I fancy some seated close grip cable rows today. Really widens my back. However i will include some good old wide Grip Barbell rows. I love this exercise, BB rows,seated cable rows,DB rows...sternum undergrip chins....always a winning combination for me.. I genrally substitute cable rows for dB rows ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 22, 2013, 05:22:43 AM
Spring and then fall are the worst time for allergies to vegetation in Oregon. I also think the warmer and wetter it is the more the mold spores multiply.

I am allergic to dogs, cats, feathers and dust. It is rarely dusty here. We have not had a cat in years. I tried not using feather pillows or a feather duvet, but I hated it. Our two dogs sleep on the bed....the little one sleeps under the covers. So much for allergies. I used to get shots and for couple of years, I took a med called Singulair which helps with allergies. I am sort of against too many meds though, so I quite taking it along with a couple of others that I felt weren't necessary. I can't recall the last time I had a cold, but it has been years.

I am not allergic to animals except for when they lick my neck.  Then I flare up in hives.  My toes were allegic to the possumn biting them but that's pretty normal I suspect.   :D  I hate taking any kind of allergy meds and antibiotics, especially after such my long stint with them during my sinus blockage.  I am happy to say I haven't taken't anything for 7 months now.   :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 22, 2013, 05:26:19 AM
Itīs raining hard here and windy...oh well suppose i will train back in the Gym today and maybe cardio after work at 10 pm... ;D  Did some Parallel bar dips too yesterday and my delts always feel really good the next day..seems to have a very positive effect on them. I fancy some seated close grip cable rows today. Really widens my back. However i will include some good old wide Grip Barbell rows. I love this exercise, BB rows,seated cable rows,DB rows...sternum undergrip chins....always a winning combination for me.. I genrally substitute cable rows for dB rows ..
It's raining here also Donny.  I am in bed on my laptop listening to the rain.  I got a walk in this afternoon for 30 mins.  Luckily I did because it's supose to rain heavy up until the weekend here all along the east coast of australia.  I don't like dips because my breast implants move out to the sides and it just feels weird...very distracting.  I don't do cables for the chest either for this reason. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 22, 2013, 06:56:19 AM
Itīs raining hard here and windy...oh well suppose i will train back in the Gym today and maybe cardio after work at 10 pm... ;D  Did some Parallel bar dips too yesterday and my delts always feel really good the next day..seems to have a very positive effect on them. I fancy some seated close grip cable rows today. Really widens my back. However i will include some good old wide Grip Barbell rows. I love this exercise, BB rows,seated cable rows,DB rows...sternum undergrip chins....always a winning combination for me.. I genrally substitute cable rows for dB rows ..
Looks like a good routine Donny!!!How many sets will you perform for back?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 22, 2013, 07:23:58 AM
Looks like a good routine Donny!!!How many sets will you perform for back?
I normally do 1-2 warm up sets then will do 3-4 heavy sets. 3 sets are normally enough for each move. I do not count warm up sets. I train really very instinctive and do what i feel like and/or according to my energy levels on the Day. chins i might do 3 max sets and think itīs enough but another time i will do 4-5 sets. so all together i will normally do 12 to 15 sets in total for Back. If i pair chest and back together about 11/12 sets for chest and back. I like Chest and back gets me working hard but i could not train like musclecenter and do this 2x a week...would kill my joints.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 22, 2013, 07:35:44 AM
I normally do 1-2 warm up sets then will do 3-4 heavy sets. 3 sets are normally enough for each move. I do not count warm up sets. I train really very instinctive and do what i feel like and/or according to my energy levels on the Day. chins i might do 3 max sets and think itīs enough but another time i will do 4-5 sets. so all together i will normally do 12 to 15 sets in total for Back. If i pair chest and back together about 11/12 sets for chest and back. I like Chest and back gets me working hard but i could not train like musclecenter and do this 2x a week...would kill my joints.
15 4 me as well...4/5 movements pulls/rows I like all rowing movements...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 22, 2013, 09:08:24 AM
I normally do 1-2 warm up sets then will do 3-4 heavy sets. 3 sets are normally enough for each move. I do not count warm up sets. I train really very instinctive and do what i feel like and/or according to my energy levels on the Day. chins i might do 3 max sets and think itīs enough but another time i will do 4-5 sets. so all together i will normally do 12 to 15 sets in total for Back. If i pair chest and back together about 11/12 sets for chest and back. I like Chest and back gets me working hard but i could not train like musclecenter and do this 2x a week...would kill my joints.
Now Donny that is correct never count warm ups. Chest and back the best it's push/pull. I always do that combo.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 22, 2013, 11:39:43 AM
I normally do 1-2 warm up sets then will do 3-4 heavy sets. 3 sets are normally enough for each move. I do not count warm up sets. I train really very instinctive and do what i feel like and/or according to my energy levels on the Day. chins i might do 3 max sets and think itīs enough but another time i will do 4-5 sets. so all together i will normally do 12 to 15 sets in total for Back. If i pair chest and back together about 11/12 sets for chest and back. I like Chest and back gets me working hard but i could not train like musclecenter and do this 2x a week...would kill my joints.

The routine I am currently using counts the warm up sets in my opinion because there are usually only 2 work sets for each movement, which hardly seem like enough to get anything done. I don't count a warm up set if the resistance is ridiculously light. This routine sometimes has two warm-up sets. I usually load enough resistance to count the second one as a work set. In addition, I have modified the routine to include additional work sets for most of the exercises.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 22, 2013, 08:08:29 PM
back''
chins underhanded grip 3x 12/12/12
bent over rows 135 15,185x12,205 x8,205 x8
wide bar lower pullery low row cable x3
1 arm db rows,80 x10/85/10,90 x10
standup pulldown cable bar pulled from top to waist x3

weighted hypers x3 45 lb plate

bi's
cable curls x4
seated curls db 35/35/40 10/12 reps single arm and some doubles thrown in around single reps
curl machine stack version padded x3

abs 4 set floor crunches 30 rep sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 22, 2013, 08:47:51 PM
Wednesday - back:

ISO front lat pulldown, 4X12-6 @ 120 to 250 lbs.
ISO bench rows, 4X12-8 @ 110 to 140
Nebula low row, 3X12-8 @ 110 to 160
Hammer reverse grip pull down, 2X10-8 @ 110 to 160
Smith barbell rows, 2X10-8 @ 90 to 110


I also limbered up my knee joints by repeating the Nautilus single leg extensions doing 3X12 @ 45 each.  I worked in with a young fellow who was doing the same thing at the same weight and for the same reason....how weird is that?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 22, 2013, 11:06:42 PM
THURSDAY NIGHT WILL BE CHEST/BIS.

INCLINE DB PRESS 3 SETS.......INCLINE SMITH PRESS  3 SETS......INCLINE FLYES 3 SETS......NAUTILUS NITRO SEATED PRESS  4 SETS.


STANDING EZ BAR CURLS    4 SETS     CONCENTRATION CURLS  4 SETS.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 22, 2013, 11:35:44 PM
I was supose to train legs this afternoon but that got squashed.  I met with a girlfriend for lunch today and ordered a wrap with smoked salmon, lettuce, avocado and cream cheese.  I start eating it and notice a burning sensation.  As I keep eating I start swelling and have difficulty breathing.  my friend notices that my chest and neck is all red.  I get up and go and ask the chef (I can see him around the side) if the wrap had mayonaise and he said Yes.  I was horrified as I am allergic to mayonaise.  So I argued with management and told the guy that if it has mayo then advertise it as such don't say it has cream cheese etc.  I refused to pay for my wrap but I was pissed because it's very uncomfortable/painful.  I won't be able to train as the last time I had an allergy from food the exercise pumps the allergy all throughout the muscles/body and I had to go to the hospital and get an injection straight from gym/training.  I guess the good news is that my lips are very full...it looks as though I have had fillers in them but it looks uneven as I ate mostly on my left side.   :-X  I still have pains when I breath as I am swollen inside including my tounge.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 23, 2013, 12:59:15 AM
I assume you have a mustard allergy, Karen?
Have a speedy recovery!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 23, 2013, 01:08:10 AM
I was supose to train legs this afternoon but that got squashed.  I met with a girlfriend for lunch today and ordered a wrap with smoked salmon, lettuce, avocado and cream cheese.  I start eating it and notice a burning sensation.  As I keep eating I start swelling and have difficulty breathing.  my friend notices that my chest and neck is all red.  I get up and go and ask the chef (I can see him around the side) if the wrap had mayonaise and he said Yes.  I was horrified as I am allergic to mayonaise.  So I argued with management and told the guy that if it has mayo then advertise it as such don't say it has cream cheese etc.  I refused to pay for my wrap but I was pissed because it's very uncomfortable/painful.  I won't be able to train as the last time I had an allergy from food the exercise pumps the allergy all throughout the muscles/body and I had to go to the hospital and get an injection straight from gym/training.  I guess the good news is that my lips are very full...it looks as though I have had fillers in them but it looks uneven as I ate mostly on my left side.   :-X  I still have pains when I breath as I am swollen inside including my tounge.
Sad to hear, a nightmare day it seems. I hope you are feeling better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 23, 2013, 02:16:20 AM
I was supose to train legs this afternoon but that got squashed.  I met with a girlfriend for lunch today and ordered a wrap with smoked salmon, lettuce, avocado and cream cheese.  I start eating it and notice a burning sensation.  As I keep eating I start swelling and have difficulty breathing.  my friend notices that my chest and neck is all red.  I get up and go and ask the chef (I can see him around the side) if the wrap had mayonaise and he said Yes.  I was horrified as I am allergic to mayonaise.  So I argued with management and told the guy that if it has mayo then advertise it as such don't say it has cream cheese etc.  I refused to pay for my wrap but I was pissed because it's very uncomfortable/painful.  I won't be able to train as the last time I had an allergy from food the exercise pumps the allergy all throughout the muscles/body and I had to go to the hospital and get an injection straight from gym/training.  I guess the good news is that my lips are very full...it looks as though I have had fillers in them but it looks uneven as I ate mostly on my left side.   :-X  I still have pains when I breath as I am swollen inside including my tounge.
get better Karen...you are not having much luck at the moment...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 23, 2013, 02:18:00 AM
Wednesday - back:

ISO front lat pulldown, 4X12-6 @ 120 to 250 lbs.
ISO bench rows, 4X12-8 @ 110 to 140
Nebula low row, 3X12-8 @ 110 to 160
Hammer reverse grip pull down, 2X10-8 @ 110 to 160
Smith barbell rows, 2X10-8 @ 90 to 110


I also limbered up my knee joints by repeating the Nautilus single leg extensions doing 3X12 @ 45 each.  I worked in with a young fellow who was doing the same thing at the same weight and for the same reason....how weird is that?
Hammer reverse grip pulldown i always loved...just do not have it where i work now... :( nice workouts going on..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 23, 2013, 03:44:01 AM
I assume you have a mustard allergy, Karen?
Have a speedy recovery!
It was mayonaise instead of cream cheese.  The assholes.   >:(  And thank you DP.  You should post up more often in here.   :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 23, 2013, 03:45:12 AM
Sad to hear, a nightmare day it seems. I hope you are feeling better.
Thank you Mr Nobody.  I feel bad for my friend more because she had to watch me swell up and yell at the manager.  Instead of having a nice relaxing lunch it ended badly. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 23, 2013, 03:51:58 AM
get better Karen...you are not having much luck at the moment...
Thank you Donny.  No I have always had these allergies.  I am allergic to preservatives in foods and things like mustard, mayonaise...any kind of product that lives on a shelf basically.  So I can have salad dressings made from natural real products such as virgin olive oil and balsmic vinegar but if someone was to put a shelf salad dressing on my salad I would have a terrible allergic reaction.  That's why I am so fussy where I eat because the allergic reactions build up in the body and you get terrible reactions.  I remember crawling out of the gym covered in hives and gasping for air and the needle the doctor rammed into my butt hurt me all day the next day at work....I was in pain.  That was several years ago in Melbourne.  I had eaten something I had an allergy to and then trained 6 hours later spreading the allergy all throughout my body.  Anyway I am feeling better tonight except for some wheezing still.  My throat is husky.  My lips have gone down thank god.  I don't suit big fat lips.  I am still a bit red in the face/neck and chest.  I will train tomorrow.  I will still have some allergy in the body but I will just monitor it and if I get hives etc then I will go to the chemist and get something for it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 23, 2013, 04:06:15 AM
It was mayonaise instead of cream cheese.  The assholes.   >:(  And thank you DP.  You should post up more often in here.   :)

So it didn't contain cream cheese at all? What a crooks..
I don't follow training/diet discussions that much, but thanks for the nice words :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 23, 2013, 04:36:00 AM
So it didn't contain cream cheese at all? What a crooks..
I don't follow training/diet discussions that much, but thanks for the nice words :)
No it didn't.  I am totally fine with cream cheese and that is why I ordered the wrap.  This has turned out to be a terrible day.  My daughter just got home from being out with friends and she has been assaulted by a bikie gang member.  A grown man punched my daughter in the face.  I am so upset.  She has seen the police and made a statement but the police won't do anything.  They are scared of the bikies here. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 23, 2013, 05:27:07 AM
No it didn't.  I am totally fine with cream cheese and that is why I ordered the wrap.  This has turned out to be a terrible day.  My daughter just got home from being out with friends and she has been assaulted by a bikie gang member.  A grown man punched my daughter in the face.  I am so upset.  She has seen the police and made a statement but the police won't do anything.  They are scared of the bikies here. 

I'm sorry to hear this about your daughter, what a fucked up world this is  >:(
It could have been a lot worse, but I understand your anger.
Warm hug!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 23, 2013, 05:37:33 AM
I'm sorry to hear this about your daughter, what a fucked up world this is  >:(
It could have been a lot worse, but I understand your anger.
Warm hug!
Its getting so dangerous here.  My 16 year old girl gets punched in the face by a grown man and there were four other men standing around with shovels.  She thought they were going to kill her and her friend.  They ran away and knocked on a strangers door and they called the police.  My daughter said she was too upset to make a statement and I have to take her to the police station tomorrow to do it.   She reckons shes never leaving the house again.  There was a girl recently in my home town which was stabbed in the face with a knife and murdered.  They haven't found her killer. Things like this never happened here once upon a time.  The other day a 12 year old girl had a gun held to her head and was robbed at 8.30pm down south in sydney I think. 
Thanks for your warm hug DP.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 23, 2013, 06:03:21 AM
Its getting so dangerous here.  My 16 year old girl gets punched in the face by a grown man and there were four other men standing around with shovels.  She thought they were going to kill her and her friend.  They ran away and knocked on a strangers door and they called the police.  My daughter said she was too upset to make a statement and I have to take her to the police station tomorrow to do it.   She reckons shes never leaving the house again.  There was a girl recently in my home town which was stabbed in the face with a knife and murdered.  They haven't found her killer. Things like this never happened here once upon a time.  The other day a 12 year old girl had a gun held to her head and was robbed at 8.30pm down south in sydney I think. 
Thanks for your warm hug DP.

I always thought that Queensland was a heavenly state to life, simply based on the beautiful images I've seen. When it comes to safety, it's sad to hear that the reality is different from that... :-\
Your daughter, and you prob as well, are in shock, which is very understandable, so processing this awful experience takes time. I hope she's able to make that statement tomorrow.
Best to both of you!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 23, 2013, 06:26:33 AM
I always thought that Queensland was a heavenly state to life, simply based on the beautiful images I've seen. When it comes to safety, it's sad to hear that the reality is different from that... :-\
Your daughter, and you prob as well, are in shock, which is very understandable, so processing this awful experience takes time. I hope she's able to make that statement tomorrow.
Best to both of you!
Crime is really on the increase here.  The truth is I would walk around NYC at night before I would walk around the streets in my home town simply because there are more police over there and also because there are more people everywhere.  Here it's dark and half the street lights don't work. 
She's gone to sleep with a swollen lip and face.  Bruising is already very noticeable.  I will take her down to the police station to make the statement.  Thank you DP.  You are welcome to post regularly in the mature thread.  We are a tight bunch and you are a good sort.  You would fit in. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 23, 2013, 06:33:38 AM
Its getting so dangerous here.  My 16 year old girl gets punched in the face by a grown man and there were four other men standing around with shovels.  She thought they were going to kill her and her friend.  They ran away and knocked on a strangers door and they called the police.  My daughter said she was too upset to make a statement and I have to take her to the police station tomorrow to do it.   She reckons shes never leaving the house again.  There was a girl recently in my home town which was stabbed in the face with a knife and murdered.  They haven't found her killer. Things like this never happened here once upon a time.  The other day a 12 year old girl had a gun held to her head and was robbed at 8.30pm down south in sydney I think. 
Thanks for your warm hug DP.
Wow just wow you have been through alot in the last few days. With your own problems and now the daughter. Things will turn around time is the factor just try and stay calm as you can through these times.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 23, 2013, 06:43:44 AM
Wow just wow you have been through alot in the last few days. With your own problems and now the daughter. Things will turn around time is the factor just try and stay calm as you can through these times.

I haven't been through that much in the past few days...just this allergic reaction to something I ate today.  More upset about my baby getting assaulted and the thing is I told her tonight I wanted her to stay home...that It's dangerous with who is around etc.  Now she will listen to me.  I just had a strange feeling, an instinct if you call it...gut feeling.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 23, 2013, 06:45:56 AM
FELL BETTER KAREN..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 23, 2013, 06:50:41 AM
FELL BETTER KAREN..
Thanks Steve.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 23, 2013, 06:59:27 AM
I haven't been through that much in the past few days...just this allergic reaction to something I ate today.  More upset about my baby getting assaulted and the thing is I told her tonight I wanted her to stay home...that It's dangerous with who is around etc.  Now she will listen to me.  I just had a strange feeling, an instinct if you call it...gut feeling.
Good advice to her, it's what I call the universe talking. See things are governed by things higher than we are as humans.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 23, 2013, 08:57:58 AM
No it didn't.  I am totally fine with cream cheese and that is why I ordered the wrap.  This has turned out to be a terrible day.  My daughter just got home from being out with friends and she has been assaulted by a bikie gang member.  A grown man punched my daughter in the face.  I am so upset.  She has seen the police and made a statement but the police won't do anything.  They are scared of the bikies here. 
what sort of grown man does that? just scum...hope your Daughter is ok...my best wishes.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 23, 2013, 09:49:07 AM
legs friday night.....



sat, sun and mon off........no training during memorial day weekend!


hope everyone has a safe and fun weekend!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 23, 2013, 10:30:22 AM
It was mayonaise instead of cream cheese.  The assholes.   >:(  And thank you DP.  You should post up more often in here.   :)

My daughter is not allergic to mayonnaise, but she absolutely does not like it at all. When she orders a sandwich of any kind, she will tell the server no mayonnaise. When her food is served she always double checks to make sure there is no mayonnaise.

Do you know which ingredient in mayonnaise you are allergic too? Is it eggs, the oil, lemon juice or one of the spices? I've made homemade mayonnaise which is much better tasting than store bought. My wife loves mayonnaise. She only buys one brand though, which is Best Foods. Lately, she's been buying the Best Foods mayonnaise made with olive oil. Olive oil is what homemade mayonnaise calls for.

Have you ever eaten Hollandaise sauce? I ask because it has the same ingredients as mayonnaise, sort of. It is made with egg yokes, butter, lemon juice and a little cayenne pepper. It is served warm over other foods like eggs Benedict or eggs Florentine. Eggs Florentine is one of my favorite breakfast dishes. It is made with poached eggs on a bed of fresh wilted spinach which is on top of a toasted English muffin. The Hollandaise sauce is poured over the top of the dish.

Talking about these yummy foods inspired me. I am taking my girls (daughter and wife) out to breakfast this morning. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 23, 2013, 10:31:47 AM
what sort of grown man does that? just scum...hope your Daughter is ok...my best wishes.

Have you considered moving to a more civilized location?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 23, 2013, 02:56:53 PM
what sort of grown man does that? just scum...hope your Daughter is ok...my best wishes.
Exactly Donny, what a scumbag.  Her whole cheek is very swollen this morning and she's still very shaken.  Thanks for your best wishes
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 23, 2013, 02:59:44 PM
Have you considered moving to a more civilized location?

There would be uncivilized people no matter where you went. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 23, 2013, 03:00:21 PM
There would be uncivilized people no matter where you went. 
Exactly.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 23, 2013, 03:03:15 PM
My daughter is not allergic to mayonnaise, but she absolutely does not like it at all. When she orders a sandwich of any kind, she will tell the server no mayonnaise. When her food is served she always double checks to make sure there is no mayonnaise.

Do you know which ingredient in mayonnaise you are allergic too? Is it eggs, the oil, lemon juice or one of the spices? I've made homemade mayonnaise which is much better tasting than store bought. My wife loves mayonnaise. She only buys one brand though, which is Best Foods. Lately, she's been buying the Best Foods mayonnaise made with olive oil. Olive oil is what homemade mayonnaise calls for.

Have you ever eaten Hollandaise sauce? I ask because it has the same ingredients as mayonnaise, sort of. It is made with egg yokes, butter, lemon juice and a little cayenne pepper. It is served warm over other foods like eggs Benedict or eggs Florentine. Eggs Florentine is one of my favorite breakfast dishes. It is made with poached eggs on a bed of fresh wilted spinach which is on top of a toasted English muffin. The Hollandaise sauce is poured over the top of the dish.

Talking about these yummy foods inspired me. I am taking my girls (daughter and wife) out to breakfast this morning. 
Jay I can't eat shelf products....things with preservatives.  If it was homemade mayonaise I would be fine with it.  It's the same with salad dressings etc.  I can't eat a salad dressing bought off the shelf.  I am allergic to masterfood products as well, even their tomato sauce.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 23, 2013, 03:42:29 PM
Crime is really on the increase here.  The truth is I would walk around NYC at night before I would walk around the streets in my home town simply because there are more police over there and also because there are more people everywhere.  Here it's dark and half the street lights don't work. 
She's gone to sleep with a swollen lip and face.  Bruising is already very noticeable.  I will take her down to the police station to make the statement.  Thank you DP.  You are welcome to post regularly in the mature thread.  We are a tight bunch and you are a good sort.  You would fit in. 

That's what happen when the streets are poorly lit. People feel unsafe at night, so the streets are almost empty and there's less social control. When it comes to safety, lightning is one of the basics.

+99% of my posts are on the G&O section, so I saw this +80-page thread by coincidence. Thirst I thought about something else, when I was reading the word 'mature' (call me immature in that sense ;D).

Anyway, I hope both of you feel a little better at this moment  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 23, 2013, 06:20:07 PM
There would be uncivilized people no matter where you went.  

Perhaps I live in Shangri La, there are no bikers in West Linn that I've noticed. As for uncivilized people, I really can't speak to that since I don't know everyone in town personally enough to know whether they are or aren't civilized. I will say that there is a fair measure of Mercedes, BMW, Lexus and "Subarude" drivers who are real assholes on the roads and in the parking lots around here.

Our streets are pretty well lit. Being suburbia, there isn't an actual downtown, just elaborate strip malls. There isn't much for young folks to do at night. If you are of drinking age there are a lot of restaurants which serve alcohol and that's about it. I suspect young folks who are old enough to drive, head to downtown Portland for some fun. Unfortunately, some bad stuff does sometimes happen in downtown Portland, especially at night. We have a pretty active local police department with not a lot to do. One day a police officer followed me into my driveway just to let me know one of my tail lights was out. Pretty boring stuff.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 23, 2013, 06:27:11 PM
Jay I can't eat shelf products....things with preservatives.  If it was homemade mayonaise I would be fine with it.  It's the same with salad dressings etc.  I can't eat a salad dressing bought off the shelf.  I am allergic to masterfood products as well, even their tomato sauce.  

This is very interesting. The upside is that you end up eating much healthier since the foods are not adulterated with preservatives. The downside is that it is more work to fix something when you don't have the choice of convenience foods.

Margie is fixing stir fry vegetables with rice for dinner tonight. Most of the vegetables are fresh with the exception of the bamboo shoots, water chestnuts and baby corn. They are canned. Our daughter requested no meat for dinner. One meal without meat probably won't kill us, or at least I hope not.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 23, 2013, 06:41:01 PM
Thursday - Shoulders and Abs:

ISO seated front press, 5X15-7 @ 60 to 140 lbs.
Nautilus seated side lateral raises, 4X12-8 @ 80 to 120
Bodymasters rear lateral raises, 5X12-8 @ 40 to 80 (similar to bent later raises)
Shrugs, 4X15-8 @ 50 to 135 (I used a special contraption designed just for shrugs which I thought had gone missing)
Cable upright rows, 3X12 @ 82.5
Nautilus rotary torso, 2X25 @ 60
Fast trac, 2X25 @ 10 lbs. using three positions
Nautilus crunches, 2X25 @ 80 to 90

Finished up with nautilus leg extensions 3X12 @ 50 each leg
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 23, 2013, 07:27:57 PM
good routine jay some nice weights there strong,,,,

delts too..
front smith press x3
side laterals dbell 25x12,30 x10,35 x10,,drop 35 x6,30x6,25x6
cable bent over rear delt x3
cable upright rows x3
underhanded with curl bar front raise x2 50 lb bar x10/60 lb bar x10

shrugs 225 x20,275 x15,275 x20 ,,,2 sets of 20 holding 45 plate per hand and squeeze up,,

calves x5 standing calf raise 6 reps toes in 6 reps reg foot stance

forearms rope rolls supersetted rear behind back cable wrist curls x3..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 23, 2013, 08:41:14 PM
good routine jay some nice weights there strong,,,,

When I updated today's delt workout, I neglected to change the front shoulder presses to the Hammer strength ISO type machine. I don't want you believing I did 140 lbs. on the Smith, because these are harder for me to do and I use a little less resistance when I do shoulder presses on the Smith.

I don't feel like I am very strong though compared to a lot of other guys in the gym. I probably do my exercises slower and stricter than most though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 23, 2013, 08:44:40 PM
When I updated today's delt workout, I neglected to change the front shoulder presses to the Hammer strength ISO type machine. I don't want you believing I did 140 lbs. on the Smith, because these are harder for me to do and I use a little less resistance when I do shoulder presses on the Smith.

I don't feel like I am very strong though compared to a lot of other guys in the gym. I probably do my exercises slower and stricter than most though.
its all the same goes to the right places in the end,,,isolation/fast/slow/negative/progressive load/super/tri sets/hi/lo reps...how can someone say lifting is boring or not worth it????,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 23, 2013, 11:46:51 PM
its all the same goes to the right places in the end,,,isolation/fast/slow/negative/progressive load/super/tri sets/hi/lo reps...how can someone say lifting is boring or not worth it????,
yeah Steve mix it up
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 24, 2013, 07:27:20 AM
Great Arm pump today...
TRI set Biceps...
Barbell Curls 4x10
incline bench hammer curls 4x10
Standing one arm cable curls 4x15

Triceps TRI sets...

Close grip bench press 4x12
machine tricep extensions 4x12
one arm cable reverse grip pressdowns 4x15

to finish off all the fun a superset of crunches(feet on bench) and reverse crunches 3xmax
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 24, 2013, 08:27:36 AM
Great Arm pump today...
TRI set Biceps...
Barbell Curls 4x10
incline bench hammer curls 4x10
Standing one arm cable curls 4x15

Triceps TRI sets...

Close grip bench press 4x12
machine tricep extensions 4x12
one arm cable reverse grip pressdowns 4x15

to finish off all the fun a superset of crunches(feet on bench) and reverse crunches 3xmax
i like that workout,,,i might have to bring arms together for a while,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 24, 2013, 08:43:13 AM
i like that workout,,,i might have to bring arms together for a while,,
yes was a nice mix of free weights,cables,machine... felt good
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 24, 2013, 09:29:31 AM
Your arm workout looks awesome Donny!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 24, 2013, 09:40:18 AM
Your arm workout looks awesome Donny!
Cheers George... so many great workouts on the thread. I like to take a bit from everyone... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 24, 2013, 07:26:40 PM
Still not feeling too good with the allergy in my body.  Yesterday my mouth was swollen, I was very wheezy and I have had some hives come up.  Even my eyes are swollen.  I probably should have got something from the chemist for it but I am on a ban for putting anything into my body since I had that stint of 16 months with antibiotics.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 24, 2013, 11:27:00 PM
Friday - pecs:

weight today was 207 lbs. If I don't lose weight to get cut, I will just have to build more muscle to accomplish similar results. This is okay with me as long as the fat covering what must be abs, somewhere hidden in there, goes away.

ISO flat bench press, 5X12-5 @ 80 to 150 added weight
ISO incline bench press, 4X12-6 @ 80 to 150 added weight
ISO decline wide bench press, 4X12-6 @ 100 to 190 added weight
Nautilus weight assisted dips, 3X10-6 @ 117 to 157
Nautilus pec deck, 3X12-8 @ 82 to 121
Nautilus super pullover, 3X12-8 @ 100 to 140
Body Masters seated fly's, 3X12 @ 70 lbs.

I got a nice pump from this workout and for a minute or so my pecs actually looked pretty good. There is hope yet.

I exercised my knee doing leg extensions again. Today I did one set of 12 with using both legs @ 100 lbs then I did 3 sets of 12 on leg at a time @ 40 to 50 lbs. I twisted each leg by doing these "pigeon toed" so to speak. My outer quads are nicely sore tonight. -Could be a problem tomorrow when I work quads and calves, we'll see. The knee pain is minimal right now....excellent! I also did one set of hack squats with no added weight just to test whether it bothered my knee; it did not.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 25, 2013, 12:46:36 AM
Still not feeling too good with the allergy in my body.  Yesterday my mouth was swollen, I was very wheezy and I have had some hives come up.  Even my eyes are swollen.  I probably should have got something from the chemist for it but I am on a ban for putting anything into my body since I had that stint of 16 months with antibiotics.
Probably pollen still, my car is covered with it. Hope you are doing better today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 25, 2013, 01:29:42 AM
Probably pollen still, my car is covered with it. Hope you are doing better today.
No it's not pollen...it's from the mayonaise I ate two days ago.  I saw my friend out today and she said she can see that my whole mouth is swollen.  I don't feel much better today. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 25, 2013, 01:35:29 AM
No it's not pollen...it's from the mayonaise I ate two days ago.  I saw my friend out today and she said she can see that my whole mouth is swollen.  I don't feel much better today. 
Sorry to hear that, try to get back to training when you can it will help. My Dad was allergic to mayonaise too. I have go to see my Mom today I want to see her but the drive sucks.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 25, 2013, 01:51:54 AM
Sorry to hear that, try to get back to training when you can it will help. My Dad was allergic to mayonaise too. I have go to see my Mom today I want to see her but the drive sucks.
Thanks.  I am going to train tomorrow.  I will probably get asthma but I will see how I go.  That is why I am so careful when I eat out because this is a pain in the ass.  It's so bad for the body.  Anyway I hope you have a good drive to your mums and stay safe on the road. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 25, 2013, 06:56:05 AM
Friday - pecs:

weight today was 207 lbs. If I don't lose weight to get cut, I will just have to build more muscle to accomplish similar results. This is okay with me as long as the fat covering what must be abs, somewhere hidden in there, goes away.

ISO flat bench press, 5X12-5 @ 80 to 150 added weight
ISO incline bench press, 4X12-6 @ 80 to 150 added weight
ISO decline wide bench press, 4X12-6 @ 100 to 190 added weight
Nautilus weight assisted dips, 3X10-6 @ 117 to 157
Nautilus pec deck, 3X12-8 @ 82 to 121
Nautilus super pullover, 3X12-8 @ 100 to 140
Body Masters seated fly's, 3X12 @ 70 lbs.

I got a nice pump from this workout and for a minute or so my pecs actually looked pretty good. There is hope yet.

I exercised my knee doing leg extensions again. Today I did one set of 12 with using both legs @ 100 lbs then I did 3 sets of 12 on leg at a time @ 40 to 50 lbs. I twisted each leg by doing these "pigeon toed" so to speak. My outer quads are nicely sore tonight. -Could be a problem tomorrow when I work quads and calves, we'll see. The knee pain is minimal right now....excellent! I also did one set of hack squats with no added weight just to test whether it bothered my knee; it did not.
wow...great workout Jay....nice amount of sets...i like it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 25, 2013, 08:16:03 AM
Sorry to hear that, try to get back to training when you can it will help. My Dad was allergic to mayonaise too. I have go to see my Mom today I want to see her but the drive sucks.

Drive safe and enjoy your visit with your mom.

I'd go see my mom, well her memorial which is Haystack Rock in Cannon Beach, OR, but the drive sucks and the weather sucks even more since it is still raining. Cannon Beach is about 85 miles from where I live. I'll go in the late summer when it looks like this, http://media.trb.com/media/photo/2012-03/68837349.jpg

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 25, 2013, 08:23:47 AM
Jay I can't eat shelf products....things with preservatives.  If it was homemade mayonaise I would be fine with it.  It's the same with salad dressings etc.  I can't eat a salad dressing bought off the shelf.  I am allergic to masterfood products as well, even their tomato sauce.  

I thought you might be interested in seeing this, Karen:

Treating Mayonnaise Allergy Symptoms

•Avoiding mayonnaise in all forms or prepare it at home with the non-allergic ingredients only. You also need to avoid all commercial sauces and dressings that come in a bottle unless you are doubly sure of the contents.
•Antihistamine drugs can easily help you to get rid of the milder symptoms and medicated skin lotions relieve the skin rashes and itching completely.
•Anaphylaxis is a serious life threatening condition that can be lessened only by administering epinephrine shots.

Read more at http://www.ifood.tv/blog/mayonnaise-allergy#84RlkqJmEcFOdmxB.99
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 25, 2013, 08:29:51 AM
wow...great workout Jay....nice amount of sets...i like it.

Thanks Donny,

I think I am starting to get somewhere after only a few weeks back working out. Each workout, I try to add a little something, usually by increasing the resistance slightly, the number of reps, or the number of sets. In the case of the pec workout, I added the second group of light resistance flys at the end of the session just too finish things off and end up with a good stretch and some pump. My pecs are not sore this morning. Hopefully, I get a some feeling of fullness tomorrow. It is probably just my imagination, but my T-shirts feel a little different on my body. Sometimes even when I don't see any change, how my clothes feel on me indicates something is different.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 25, 2013, 08:31:46 AM
Thanks Donny,

I think I am starting to get somewhere after only a few weeks back working out. Each workout, I try to add a little something, usually by increasing the resistance slightly, the number of reps, or the number of sets. In the case of the pec workout, I added the second group of light resistance flys at the end of the session just too finish things off and end up with a good stretch and some pump. My pecs are not sore this morning. Hopefully, I get a some feeling of fullness tomorrow. It is probably just my imagination, but my T-shirts feel a little different on my body. Sometimes even when I don't see any change, how my clothes feel on me indicates something is different.
this is true...trousers are looser...firmer waistline and you see that your Shirt sits better....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 25, 2013, 08:36:56 AM
I am hoping that my trousers get a little tighter in the leg and butt, while getting looser in the waist. I wear them pretty loose to begin with, so if I am not careful they might become saggers!  ;D At least if I had a little bit if a butt to hold them up that would not happen. Nobody wants to see some old man's ass crack....LOL!

When folks start confusing me with Steve because my quads are so huge, I will have finally arrived.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 25, 2013, 08:58:22 AM
I am hoping that my trousers get a little tighter in the leg and butt, while getting looser in the waist. I wear them pretty loose to begin with, so if I am not careful they might become saggers!  ;D At least if I had a little bit if a butt to hold them up that would not happen. Nobody wants to see some old man's ass crack....LOL!

When folks start confusing me with Steve because my quads are so huge, I will have finally arrived.
:),,thats my boy,,,today me and my'pop'went to my moms husbands daughter house'stepsis'she gave me a total body machine,weight stacked version with sit up chest press and lat puuldown/tricep/bi cep capabilities ,,totally covered in a pinch..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 25, 2013, 09:06:02 AM
:),,thats my boy,,,today me and my'pop'went to my moms husbands daughter house'stepsis'she gave me a total body machine,weight stacked version with sit up chest press and lat puuldown/tricep/bi cep capabilities ,,totally covered in a pinch..
thatīs great Steve...you can get some home Training done...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 25, 2013, 09:15:20 AM
thatīs great Steve...you can get some home Training done...
;D,,i'll do a total body thing,,,2 sets of this 2 sets of that,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 25, 2013, 09:23:14 AM
;D,,i'll do a total body thing,,,2 sets of this 2 sets of that,,,
yeah and itīs great to Train when you want or if you Need to do a bit extra work for a Body part
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 25, 2013, 09:27:15 AM
yeah and itīs great to Train when you want or if you Need to do a bit extra work for a Body part
thats what i like...i love the gym world doing it 23 yrs non stop,,,started 1st 2 yrs in nice home gym outgrew it,,now i have the look its just cruising so home gym allows that convenience,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 25, 2013, 09:31:06 AM
thats what i like...i love the gym world doing it 23 yrs non stop,,,started 1st 2 yrs in nice home gym outgrew it,,now i have the look its just cruising so home gym allows that convenience,,,
well although i work in a Gym i still workout at home too.. a bit of both really. I like to jump up do some extra chins,dips and stuff. I did a few Dips today in my boxer Shorts and t Shirt ... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 25, 2013, 11:00:22 AM
well although i work in a Gym i still workout at home too.. a bit of both really. I like to jump up do some extra chins,dips and stuff. I did a few Dips today in my boxer Shorts and t Shirt ... ;D
i would do that sans the shirt...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 25, 2013, 11:59:54 AM
yeah and itīs great to Train when you want or if you Need to do a bit extra work for a Body part

I am considering buying a few dumbbells so I can do some extra work on my biceps. The inspiration is from doing the leg extensions everyday for my knee and how that's made my quads respond.

At a previous home we had a full basement. I had a lot of workout equipment in the basement. The only issue was that I couldn't do any standing overhead presses because the ceiling was too low. -Couldn't have been too big of a problem since I rarely do anything overhead while standing anyway. On the plus side, it was nice having equipment handy and at home. On the negative side, it made it hard to commit to a specific workout time because I knew the equipment wasn't going anywhere. I did build up my quads during that time despite that I was squatting with very light weights. Just goes to prove you don't necessarily need to lift like a power lifter to get big.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 25, 2013, 12:03:56 PM
well although i work in a Gym i still workout at home too.. a bit of both really. I like to jump up do some extra chins,dips and stuff. I did a few Dips today in my boxer Shorts and t Shirt ... ;D

Soon you will be running on the treadmill naked, like I used to do when it was in the house instead of the garage. I suppose I could run naked in the garage just as well, although it isn't that warm out there right now. My little bits of junk would probably retreat some to stay warm.  :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 25, 2013, 01:22:44 PM
i am watching the football (soccer ) Dortmund against bayern....hope Dortmund win....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 25, 2013, 03:02:51 PM
busy day me and dad diassembled the machine got it to my house,,couple pulleys,nice heavy weight stack,,,then wife left to mom's and finally did lawn it was way out of control we had some cold wicked weather in jersey 50 degress for late may is  :-\,,,,finished and was tired weird from lawn i do have a good lot to mow i must say but still felt crappy legs were like lead and chest felt heavy could have been cold air and gas fumes from mower :-X,,,rested hr or so and geared up for legs ;D...

extensions 1st 175 x15,,190 x12,205 x12,220 x12,235 x10,250 x10 :o
hack squats 3 plates x12,4 plates x10,5 plates x10 heart was pounding/sweating bad i did have baseball cap on ,,
leg press 5 plates x12,2 sets 6 plates x10m usually do 7/8 plates i was pumped bad and heart felt like caffeine rush
walking lunges 2 sets 50 lbs

hams usually do stifflegged plus leg curls but i was 'off 'today
did situp leg curls x5 165x12,180 x12,195 x10,210 x10,210 x8 hard,,,

calves,, leg press 'press raises'3 plates x12,3.5 x12,4 plates x12
seated calf raise x3 3 plates x20,3.5 x12,3.5 x12

good workout other than alleged preworkout drama,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 25, 2013, 06:27:27 PM
I hate that my post is following yours since I worked legs today too and compared to you, my resistance is puny. On an up note, my knee did fine. I was actually surprised that I could handle as much weight as I did. I was expecting to have to really dial it back.

Saturday - quads and calves:

Weight 208

Nautilus leg extensions, 5X15-8 @ 100 to 160
Standing one legged calf raises, 4X20-10 @ 160 to 220
Leg press, 6X20-8 @ 200 to 500 added weight
alternating with
Leg press calf raises, 5X20-10 @ 100 to 300 added weight
Machine hack squats, 3X12-6 @ BW to 140 added weight
Seated calf raises, 3X15-8 @ 55 to 140
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 25, 2013, 06:38:31 PM
I hate that my post is following yours since I worked legs today too and compared to you, my resistance is puny. On an up note, my knee did fine. I was actually surprised that I could handle as much weight as I did. I was expecting to have to really dial it back.

Saturday - quads and calves:

Weight 208

Nautilus leg extensions, 5X15-8 @ 100 to 160
Standing one legged calf raises, 4X20-10 @ 160 to 220
Leg press, 6X20-8 @ 200 to 500 added weight
alternating with
Leg press calf raises, 5X20-10 @ 100 to 300 added weight
Machine hack squats, 3X12-6 @ BW to 140 added weight
Seated calf raises, 3X15-8 @ 55 to 140

stay in the groove jay its working,,your head is there,,your knee will be fine advil/alleve/ice/put some sports gel/creme,,,dream of some nice quads in cut off jean shorts...sorry dreaming of 90's flex magazine...lol,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 25, 2013, 09:54:32 PM
stay in the groove jay its working,,your head is there,,your knee will be fine advil/alleve/ice/put some sports gel/creme,,,dream of some nice quads in cut off jean shorts...sorry dreaming of 90's flex magazine...lol,,,

I guess you are dreaming. I can't recall how long ago it was that I wore cut off Levi short shorts, but it must have at least been in the 80's. I do remember nylon running shorts being really popular. I liked how they looked and felt on me and I wore them a lot whenever I could. These days I wear Old Navy baggy shorts unless I am showing off then I wear Under Armor or the like. Hmm, maybe a nice pair of leather shorts would be interesting....now I am dreaming of times past....or in the future when I have wheels like yours.  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 26, 2013, 01:27:41 AM
Icy Hot works good on joint problems.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 26, 2013, 01:36:17 AM
Icy Hot works good on joint problems.

I have a prescription analgesic Voltaren Gel that works great. It's expensive. If I rub some on my knee when I hit the sack, which is any minute now, my knee does not bother me all night long.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 26, 2013, 02:52:11 AM
Icy Hot works good on joint problems.

That's interesting. Here in Europe they call it Hotice, but it has the same logo as Icy Hot.
I used it yesterday for my left delt, and the pain is gone (thank you, ex gf).

(https://www.gezondheidaanhuis.nl/images/product/5387-Spiergel-Hotice-250-ml.jpg?size=medium)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 26, 2013, 03:47:22 AM
That's interesting. Here in Europe they call it Hotice, but it has the same logo as Icy Hot.
I used it yesterday for my left delt, and the pain is gone (thank you, ex gf).

(https://www.gezondheidaanhuis.nl/images/product/5387-Spiergel-Hotice-250-ml.jpg?size=medium)
Looks good i will look for it here
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 26, 2013, 04:01:26 AM
so i have Wednesday off and Thursday too....hi hi....i will celebrate my Birthday on Wednesday....big time... ;D ;D :D ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 26, 2013, 04:45:15 AM
bio freeze,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 26, 2013, 08:00:49 AM
jay good thing is i could still wear pant's but i do have to bring many to dressing room,run around with the kids not waddling,legs rubbing together,they do touch pumped tho,,this is no pump,they look cleaner definition wise without pump like abs do,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 26, 2013, 04:34:41 PM
I thought you might be interested in seeing this, Karen:

Treating Mayonnaise Allergy Symptoms

•Avoiding mayonnaise in all forms or prepare it at home with the non-allergic ingredients only. You also need to avoid all commercial sauces and dressings that come in a bottle unless you are doubly sure of the contents.
•Antihistamine drugs can easily help you to get rid of the milder symptoms and medicated skin lotions relieve the skin rashes and itching completely.
•Anaphylaxis is a serious life threatening condition that can be lessened only by administering epinephrine shots.

Read more at http://www.ifood.tv/blog/mayonnaise-allergy#84RlkqJmEcFOdmxB.99
Thanks Jay, I finally caved yesterday and bought myself phenergan at the chemist.  I just couldn't stand it any longer...the rashes etc.  When people start commenting that you are covered in rashes then it's time to do something.  It knocked me out though for part of the day and has left me drowsy.  I am still drowsy this morning from it.  Now I am angry because this allergy which shouldn't have happened has taken 4 days of my life and training.  I don't want to eat out with my girlfriends anymore.  I feel resentful actually. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 26, 2013, 05:05:18 PM
Thanks Jay, I finally caved yesterday and bought myself phenergan at the chemist.  I just couldn't stand it any longer...the rashes etc.  When people start commenting that you are covered in rashes then it's time to do something.  It knocked me out though for part of the day and has left me drowsy.  I am still drowsy this morning from it.  Now I am angry because this allergy which shouldn't have happened has taken 4 days of my life and training.  I don't want to eat out with my girlfriends anymore.  I feel resentful actually.  

Just so long as you don't resent your girlfriends. It wasn't their fault as far as I could tell.

If you eat out, you might consider asking if there is any mayonnaise or other dressings normally served on whatever it is you order, sandwich, wrap, etc. Following up with the comment that you are highly allergic to these food products and could become very sick or die if you accidentally ate them. I would think that would do it. Also you could order your foods dry, as in no dressing of any kind. Even Mcdonald's lets you order sandwiches how ever you want them....like no special sauce, no mustard or no ketchup. I have even ordered plain burgers with no bun or anything else for the puppies when I want to give them a treat.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 26, 2013, 05:52:21 PM
Just so long as you don't resent your girlfriends. It wasn't their fault as far as I could tell.

If you eat out, you might consider asking if there is any mayonnaise or other dressings normally served on whatever it is you order, sandwich, wrap, etc. Following up with the comment that you are highly allergic to these food products and could become very sick or die if you accidentally ate them. I would think that would do it. Also you could order your foods dry, as in no dressing of any kind. Even Mcdonald's lets you order sandwiches how ever you want them....like no special sauce, no mustard or no ketchup. I have even ordered plain burgers with no bun or anything else for the puppies when I want to give them a treat.  
I already do this now Jay.  I am always extremely careful what I put into my mouth.  I even recheck burgers etc.  I am not resentful of my girlfriends, but i will say that I did not want to eat there and so I am annoyed at myself.  I am just in a shitty mood because I don't like the effects of this phenergan on my body.  My heart is beating fast etc and I hate this feeling.  And I lost 5 days today going on 6 tomorrow if I am still not feeling well.  Cause now I have the effects from the phenergan to deal with.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 26, 2013, 09:23:07 PM
I already do this now Jay.  I am always extremely careful what I put into my mouth.  I even recheck burgers etc.  I am not resentful of my girlfriends, but i will say that I did not want to eat there and so I am annoyed at myself.  I am just in a shitty mood because I don't like the effects of this phenergan on my body.  My heart is beating fast etc and I hate this feeling.  And I lost 5 days today going on 6 tomorrow if I am still not feeling well.  Cause now I have the effects from the phenergan to deal with.

Karen,

My knee issue isn't the same thing as what you are suffering. What I was allowing it to do was influence my workout routine. You may be doing the same with this allergy issue and the treatment. If we wait until we feel great to hit the gym, we may never go again. At least for me, once I took my sorry ass knee to the gym, ignoring the pain and working out the best I could I started feeling better. I even amazed myself on Saturday; My quad and calves routine went much better than I had expected. I truly believe if I'd continued to nurse my knee and avoid the gym, I'd be much worse off today. But that's just me. I am not you and I cannot know how you feel. This is just a thought and an observation.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 26, 2013, 09:29:27 PM
jay good thing is i could still wear pant's but i do have to bring many to dressing room,run around with the kids not waddling,legs rubbing together,they do touch pumped tho,,this is no pump,they look cleaner definition wise without pump like abs do,,,

Sure, sure Steve, keep on taunting me with photos of your enviable leg and glute development....it might be working! I measured my quads last night. They were probably still a little pumped from the leg workout yesterday, but surprisingly they'd grown since the last time I measured them when they were only slightly over 24" and now they are a shade under 25". Sadly, I don't see the cuts you have on me yet. But they're coming, just you wait. I am going to start adding in some lunges again, which should help inflate my ass a little.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 26, 2013, 09:33:12 PM
Sure, sure Steve, keep on taunting me with photos of your enviable leg and glute development....it might be working! I measured my quads last night. They were probably still a little pumped from the leg workout yesterday, but surprisingly they'd grown since the last time I measured them when they were only slightly over 24" and now they are a shade under 25". Sadly, I don't see the cuts you have on me yet. But they're coming, just you wait. I am going to start adding in some lunges again, which should help inflate my ass a little.  ;D
lunges are key lol,,,there good to do,how tall are u?i'm 5'8 tops my legs are about 25"
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 26, 2013, 09:45:45 PM
lunges are key lol,,,there good to do,how tall are u?i'm 5'8 tops my legs are about 25"

I am a shrunken 5'10" or so. However, our legs could be the same length. I wear a 31" inseam and 30" sometimes works too. I think my legs are pretty short. Perhaps I am not measuring my quads right. I measured them right below the crotch where they are the biggest. They look nothing like yours at the knee....I wish! Also my waist is still thick but shrinking slowly. A lot of how we look has to do with proportions and not so much size.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 26, 2013, 09:50:34 PM
I am a shrunken 5'10" or so. However, our legs could be the same length. I wear a 31" inseam and 30" sometimes works too. I think my legs are pretty short. Perhaps I am not measuring my quads right. I measured them right below the crotch where they are the biggest. They look nothing like yours at the knee....I wish! Also my waist is still thick but shrinking slowly. A lot of how we look has to do with proportions and not so much size.
true,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 26, 2013, 10:29:05 PM
Karen,

My knee issue isn't the same thing as what you are suffering. What I was allowing it to do was influence my workout routine. You may be doing the same with this allergy issue and the treatment. If we wait until we feel great to hit the gym, we may never go again. At least for me, once I took my sorry ass knee to the gym, ignoring the pain and working out the best I could I started feeling better. I even amazed myself on Saturday; My quad and calves routine went much better than I had expected. I truly believe if I'd continued to nurse my knee and avoid the gym, I'd be much worse off today. But that's just me. I am not you and I cannot know how you feel. This is just a thought and an observation.
Jay I am still drowsy so will let this phenergan wear off.  But I am glad that you are training again.  It's all good...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 27, 2013, 02:17:32 AM
lunges are key lol,,,there good to do,how tall are u?i'm 5'8 tops my legs are about 25"
Steve your lunges are hardcore to say the least...leave me sore for a few days... so today i will get a chest workout in... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 27, 2013, 10:18:43 AM
I did a very Basic chest workout today...

Decline BB press 4x10
Incline BB press  4x10
Flat BB Press      4x10

that was it all with Barbell. I really like the Decline press. It really feels diffrent to flat.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 27, 2013, 10:21:10 AM
I did a very Basic chest workout today...

Decline BB press 4x10
Incline BB press  4x10
Flat BB Press      4x10

that was it all with Barbell. I really like the Decline press. It really feels diffrent to flat.
True, Dorian used those alot I like them as well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 27, 2013, 10:31:41 AM
kinder to the shoulders and i think good to alternate with flat...we got the 3 benches next to each other so i just thought do a Barbell blast fom every angle... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 27, 2013, 11:44:09 AM
I did a very Basic chest workout today...

Decline BB press 4x10
Incline BB press  4x10
Flat BB Press      4x10

that was it all with Barbell. I really like the Decline press. It really feels diffrent to flat.

For some reason, declines are easier for me to do then either the incline or flat bench press. I like doing them on a Smith machine because then I am not fearful of dropping the weight on neck. The gym also has a ISO lateral which mimics the decline movement and you can do them with a really wide grip if you choose.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 27, 2013, 03:07:43 PM
Today being Memorial Day a legal holiday in the States, the gym was only open until 3:00 p.m. Never-the-less, I planned to do my arm routine since that is what is scheduled for Monday's. Unfortunately, my bad habit of sleeping late messed that up. I didn't get out of bed until 11:00 a.m. Then I asked my ladies out to breakfast. After breakfast we took a side trip to the nursery to pick up some tomato plants that my wife wanted me to plant for her. By the time we got home, it was 2:00 p.m. I could have made it to the gym, but I hate being the last one out of there when they are on holiday schedule because it just seems rude to the employees who had to work. I will do Monday's workout tomorrow and so on throughout the week which means I won't be take off next Sunday. I am trying to stay dedicated. Oh and I had decided to wash my probably smelly gym clothes and I had not moved them to the dryer yet. Some things are just not meant to be.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 27, 2013, 05:43:15 PM
chest  switched it up

seated chest pre
ss stack type 130x12,145x10,155x10,165x10
inc press x3 135 x10,165x10,185 x8 getting back strength here slow but felt good today..
flat flyes 35 x12,40 x10,45x9
flat press db trick is turn dumbells in at top palms face in nice finish 50 lbs x3 10/9/8
finished lower cable pulls lower position to top squeeze handles at finish top portion and then did pushups 10/10 x2..

tri's
seated dip tri machine x3
pushdowns x3 last set did drop
overhaed cable extensions x3
kickback cables 2 sets 15  done...

abs 2 exercises 5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2013, 01:57:00 AM
Today being Memorial Day a legal holiday in the States, the gym was only open until 3:00 p.m. Never-the-less, I planned to do my arm routine since that is what is scheduled for Monday's. Unfortunately, my bad habit of sleeping late messed that up. I didn't get out of bed until 11:00 a.m. Then I asked my ladies out to breakfast. After breakfast we took a side trip to the nursery to pick up some tomato plants that my wife wanted me to plant for her. By the time we got home, it was 2:00 p.m. I could have made it to the gym, but I hate being the last one out of there when they are on holiday schedule because it just seems rude to the employees who had to work. I will do Monday's workout tomorrow and so on throughout the week which means I won't be take off next Sunday. I am trying to stay dedicated. Oh and I had decided to wash my probably smelly gym clothes and I had not moved them to the dryer yet. Some things are just not meant to be.
nice you think of the employees in the Gym...some donīt. I love Tomatoes and my Father grew them too..yellow ones and red ones. Yes sometimes things just happen and you get side tracked...

chest  switched it up

seated chest pre
ss stack type 130x12,145x10,155x10,165x10
inc press x3 135 x10,165x10,185 x8 getting back strength here slow but felt good today..
flat flyes 35 x12,40 x10,45x9
flat press db trick is turn dumbells in at top palms face in nice finish 50 lbs x3 10/9/8
finished lower cable pulls lower position to top squeeze handles at finish top portion and then did pushups 10/10 x2..

tri's
seated dip tri machine x3
pushdowns x3 last set did drop
overhaed cable extensions x3
kickback cables 2 sets 15  done...

abs 2 exercises 5 sets
yes the twisting of the Bells was something i never really got into...maybe try it next chest Day again...i do however like just using a Hammer grip on Incline DB press and also with shoulder press.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2013, 02:43:51 AM
here is some good reading material for you Mature Guys and Gals....
http://classicphysiquebuilder.blogspot.de/search/label/Building%20Mass
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 28, 2013, 11:13:23 AM
ALWAYS GOOD SIGN FOR ME DAY AFTER CHEST WORKOUT STILL FULL AND PUMPED,HARDNESS TO OUTER PECS :DTHATS HOE I HAVE BEEN
FEELING LAST FEW CHEST WORKOUTS,AS INJURY HAS SUBSIDED...HEALED,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 28, 2013, 12:37:47 PM
hope you all enjoyed Memorial Day.......i took three days off from the gym.......ready to train back and finish with 20 minutes on the elliptical.



partial deadlifts  3 sets

powertech machine pulldowns  (close grip)  3 sets

one arm cable rows   3 sets

chest supported t bar rows  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 28, 2013, 12:40:10 PM
hope you all enjoyed Memorial Day.......i took three days off from the gym.......ready to train back and finish with 20 minutes on the elliptical.



partial deadlifts  3 sets

powertech machine pulldowns  (close grip)  3 sets

one arm cable rows   3 sets

chest supported t bar rows  3 sets
GOOD MAN GEORGE,,,CHEST SUPPORTED T BAR I DO EVERY WORKOUT INNER GRIP
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 28, 2013, 12:41:23 PM
yes steverino......i love the inner grip too!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2013, 01:30:35 PM
so tomorrow i will eat like a Little piggy and get drunk as a Skunk....hi hi  :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 28, 2013, 01:50:05 PM
hope you all enjoyed Memorial Day.......i took three days off from the gym.......ready to train back and finish with 20 minutes on the elliptical.

partial deadlifts  3 sets

powertech machine pulldowns  (close grip)  3 sets

one arm cable rows   3 sets

chest supported t bar rows  3 sets

I just send you a PM and asked about your workout today, so never mind  ;)

Here's mine

5 sets full deadlifts
5 sets barbell rows
5 sets upright barbell rows, wide grip to ease my wrists
5 sets barbell curls

(all in a squat rack, yeah, keep hatin  ;D)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2013, 01:57:18 PM
I just send you a PM and asked about your workout today, so never mind  ;)

Here's mine

5 sets full deadlifts
5 sets barbell rows
5 sets upright barbell rows, wide grip to ease my wrists
5 sets barbell curls

(all in a squat rack, yeah, keep hatin  ;D)
solid workout...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 28, 2013, 03:29:53 PM
Good to see DP in the mature thread.   :)  Donny I can't imagine you being a little piggy.   :D 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 28, 2013, 03:38:07 PM
Good to see DP in the mature thread.   :)  Donny I can't imagine you being a little piggy.   :D 

Thanks Karen, and I hope you and your daughter feel a little (or much) better now :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 28, 2013, 03:41:18 PM
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g285/asculptbooty/babycubhappybirthay.gif) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/asculptbooty/media/babycubhappybirthay.gif.html)


Happy Birthday Donny!  Hoping all your wishes come true and that you have an awesome day with family and loved ones. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 28, 2013, 03:47:27 PM
Thanks Karen, and I hope you and your daughter feel a little (or much) better now :)

Thank you.  Yes I feel better but its taken me 6 days.  Only started to feel okay yesterday which was tuesday.  Although I still have a rash on my chest.  The phenergan is really bad on my body.  It's extremely dehydrating and makes my heart beat too fast and I feel unwell.  Now I am happy to say that I feel normal again.  I gave up my last cup of coffee in the morning and am drinking pure cacao powder mixed with a tiny bit of cinnamon and honey for sweetness.  My daughter is still very bruised and swollen.  Probably looks worse now as the bruising is green.  But it should fade.  She came home from school early yesterday as she felt self conscious from the bruising.  Hopefully today is better. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 28, 2013, 04:05:25 PM
Thank you.  Yes I feel better but its taken me 6 days.  Only started to feel okay yesterday which was tuesday.  Although I still have a rash on my chest.  The phenergan is really bad on my body.  It's extremely dehydrating and makes my heart beat too fast and I feel unwell.  Now I am happy to say that I feel normal again.  I gave up my last cup of coffee in the morning and am drinking pure cacao powder mixed with a tiny bit of cinnamon and honey for sweetness.  My daughter is still very bruised and swollen.  Probably looks worse now as the bruising is green.  But it should fade.  She came home from school early yesterday as she felt self conscious from the bruising.  Hopefully today is better.  

I'm not familiar with Phenergan, but it sounds like pretty strong stuff. Good to hear that it helped to to recover. Amazing what certain foods can cause... A friend of mine has a peanut allergy, so I was very careful when I bought some cookies. Just to be sure, I checked the labels extra carefully, before I bought a packet. It contained no peanuts, but the label warned that peanuts are processed in the same plant, how confusing... I couldn't find cookies without this warning on the label.
I love cacao. I allways include a scoop to my protein drinks, since I only choose unflavored powders. I love cinnamon as well, so I add this to my oats.

Regarding your daughter, it's more important how she feels than how she looks, so I hope she has (or find) the strength to move on.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 28, 2013, 04:06:47 PM
I found this for Donny.   :D


http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn173/profiletwenty08/birthday16.jpg
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 28, 2013, 04:11:45 PM
I'm confused, isn't his birthday next Friday ???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 28, 2013, 04:13:24 PM
so tomorrow i will eat like a Little piggy and get drunk as a Skunk....hi hi  :D ;D ;D
;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on May 28, 2013, 04:18:00 PM
I'm confused, isn't his birthday next Friday ???
It's today.  I have Donny on my facebook friends. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 28, 2013, 04:21:21 PM
It's today.  I have Donny on my facebook friends. 

My bad, happy birthday Donny!  8)

(http://ilooksexynaked.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Virginia_Gallardo_i_look_sexy_naked_locario_hot_chick_2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 28, 2013, 04:28:55 PM
Thank you.  Yes I feel better but its taken me 6 days.  Only started to feel okay yesterday which was tuesday.  Although I still have a rash on my chest.  The phenergan is really bad on my body.  It's extremely dehydrating and makes my heart beat too fast and I feel unwell.  Now I am happy to say that I feel normal again.  I gave up my last cup of coffee in the morning and am drinking pure cacao powder mixed with a tiny bit of cinnamon and honey for sweetness.  My daughter is still very bruised and swollen.  Probably looks worse now as the bruising is green.  But it should fade.  She came home from school early yesterday as she felt self conscious from the bruising.  Hopefully today is better. 
Good to hear booty seems things are getting better for you.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2013, 04:50:48 PM
Thanks everyone,,, ;D love you all :-*
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 28, 2013, 08:15:30 PM
Happy Birthday big guy!

These ladies are a lot before your time, but I wanted to give you something classy to look at.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 28, 2013, 11:22:30 PM
Sending one birthday candle I hope you got matches to light it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 29, 2013, 07:28:09 AM
Happy Birthday big guy!

These ladies are a lot before your time, but I wanted to give you something classy to look at.


love the pics....thanks and very erotic i like that. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 29, 2013, 07:29:14 AM
Sending one birthday candle I hope you got matches to light it.

thank you...i am eating cake now... ;D later beer and Steaks...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 29, 2013, 08:11:20 AM
 :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 29, 2013, 08:19:20 AM
GOOD BIRTHDAY DUDE....ENJOY,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 29, 2013, 08:30:47 AM
GOOD BIRTHDAY DUDE....ENJOY,,
Cheers...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 29, 2013, 08:34:04 AM
Cheers...

BEER/MONSTER ENERGY SHOTS LOL,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 29, 2013, 08:51:33 AM
BEER/MONSTER ENERGY SHOTS LOL,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 29, 2013, 09:32:55 AM

THAT LOOKS SO GOOD,,I COULDN'T...WELL  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 29, 2013, 12:07:52 PM
Tuesday - I did Monday's arm routine again on Tuesday due to the holiday.

Seated alternate dumbbell curls, 5X12-6 @ 25 to 45 lbs.
Cable triceps press-down, 4X12-8 @ 107 to 147.5
Cable standing EZ curls, 4 X 12-6 @ 80 to 120.5
Flex seated triceps extension, 4X12-8 @ 60 to 90
Nautilus multi biceps, 3X12-8 @ 55 to 75
Nautilus seated parallel grip press-downs, 3X12-8 @ 115 to 135
Nautilus wrist curls, 3X12 @ 80 to 100
Cable reverse EZ curls, 3X12-8 @ 66.5 to 93.5
Standing cable bicep curls 3X12 @ 37.5

lite one legged leg extensions 4X15-12 @ 50 lbs. (my knee feels great for and hour or two following this and then it starts hurting again. I put a heat pad on it last night for about an hour, which help with the pain)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 29, 2013, 04:24:46 PM
Happy birthday Donny!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 29, 2013, 07:38:55 PM
back
2 sets overhand pullups
2 sets side grip version
hammer reverse pulldowns 2 plates x10,2 plates x10,2plates added 10 each side x9
low cable rows 160 x12,180 x10,200 x10
bent over rows 135 x12,185 x10,205 x10,225 x7
rope on top cable pull towards waist open to hips at bottom portion slight bend at torso pulldowns standing x3
 weighted hypers x3 45 lb platex3

bi's
seated curl machine padded to elbows x4
inc db curl miss these nice 25 x10,30 x10,35 x10
old school 70 lb barbell curl premade camber bar partner stands in front set to set of 10 x 4  pass back and forth no rest ,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 29, 2013, 08:05:49 PM
Wednesday - Hamstrings and Calves:

Weight 205 lbs.

Nautilus lying leg curls, 4X12-6 @ 55 to 85 lbs.
Standing calf raises, 4X8-15 @ 220 -280
Nautilus seated leg curls, 3X12-8 @ 90 to 110
Calf raises on the leg press machine, 3X15-12 @ 210 to 260
Machine reverse hack squats, 4X15-8 @ machine weight to 270 added weight
Seated calf raises, 3X15-10 @ 70 to 125
Nautilus hip abduction, 3X15-10 @ 90 to 110
Nautilus hip adduction, 3X15-10 @ 110 to 130

I omitted the leg extensions today, feeling I had worked my knees enough with the other exercises.

No much change since the last time I did this routine. I am being cautious because of my knee. It is so weird that it does hurt while exercising but later, it is killing me with pain, like right now. My daughter insists that it is a torn meniscus. I am working up to making an appointment with an orthopedist. If nothing else, it would be good to know exactly what it is and what it isn't.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 29, 2013, 09:53:04 PM
chest/bis

incline smith presses.... using the stops (pressing from a dead stop)  4 sets

incline flyes   4 sets

nautilus nitro machine presses  3 sets


standing ez bar curls    4 sets

concentration curls   4 sets



then finished with 20 minutes on the elliptical
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 30, 2013, 04:23:46 AM
Happy birthday Donny!
Thanks Rich....i am a bit hung over today so i will rest and Train tomorrow.... ;D go for a run tomorrow and sweat out the Booze...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 30, 2013, 04:32:36 AM
still canīt believe iīm 47....still feel like i did at 20 in this old Picture....iīm on the right
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 30, 2013, 10:51:50 AM
Well i just went for a good run....sweated out the booze.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 30, 2013, 11:05:06 AM
Well i just went for a good run....sweated out the booze.... ;D
8)... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 30, 2013, 11:11:06 AM
8)... ;D
yes I suffered.....hi hi
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 30, 2013, 11:56:06 AM
Thanks Rich....i am a bit hung over today so i will rest and Train tomorrow.... ;D go for a run tomorrow and sweat out the Booze...

This is one reason I decided to forego scotch. It has been about two weeks since I had any scotch and I feel great. While I don't have hangovers (which considering how much I drink sometimes is odd), drinking does deplete my energy levels the next day. I am going to stick to the occasional glass of wine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 30, 2013, 12:03:13 PM
still canīt believe iīm 47....still feel like i did at 20 in this old Picture....iīm on the right


You look like such a baby-faced little cherub of a guy in this photo. Of course from my perspective, 47 is still a youngster. Take care of your skin and your health and you can look good still in another 27 years. Like Booty suggests, there is nothing quite like the benefits of Coconut oil or cocoa butter. I've been putting it on the surgery scars on my stomach and they are gradually disappearing. Stay away from booze, it can age you.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 30, 2013, 12:03:49 PM
This is one reason I decided to forego scotch. It has been about two weeks since I had any scotch and I feel great. While I don't have hangovers (which considering how much I drink sometimes is odd), drinking does deplete my energy levels the next day. I am going to stick to the occasional glass of wine.
whisky would kill me...I only drink beer...I'm just a wimp ...LOL
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 30, 2013, 12:09:38 PM
You look like such a baby-faced little cherub of a guy in this photo. Of course from my perspective, 47 is still a youngster. Take care of your skin and your health and you can look good still in another 27 years. Like Booty suggests, there is nothing quite like the benefits of Coconut oil or cocoa butter. I've been putting it on the surgery scars on my stomach and they are gradually disappearing. Stay away from booze, it can age you.
yes most people still think I look younger...suppose it's good...older women liked to take me into their busom... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 30, 2013, 12:17:40 PM
yes most people still think I look younger...suppose it's good...older women liked to take me into their busom... ;D
:o....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 30, 2013, 12:24:14 PM
yes most people still think I look younger...suppose it's good...older women liked to take me into their busom... ;D
Did you play sports Donny?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 30, 2013, 12:28:35 PM
Did you play sports Donny?
serious question?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 30, 2013, 12:30:08 PM
serious question?
Yes.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 30, 2013, 12:31:35 PM
Yes.
I did boxing and running
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 30, 2013, 12:39:08 PM
I did boxing and running
Cool. I never really did it than hit the heavy bag. Who is your favorite boxer? Ali was mine worked mind games on people, then Tyson second.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 30, 2013, 08:03:38 PM
delts/calves/abs/forearms  small bodyparts ...

delts
smith front press x4
cable side laterals x3
upright narrow grip smith machine
seated bent over rear delt raise i hold dumbells instead palms faceing dumbell face each other tops then pull back a bit x3

shrugs on hammer chest press x4 20 rep sets worked 2 plates x30/3 plates x20 /4 plates x2 20 sick pump

calves worked hi reps standing machine 140 x30,160 x20/180 x20/200 x18 dead,,,

forearms superset wrist roller rope
behind back cable wrist curls

abs
my chest has some deeper etchings ,gym hot,diet ,sweating ,getting leaner ,,nice..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 30, 2013, 09:02:35 PM
shoulders:

smith machine shoulder presses  4 sets

db side laterals   4 sets


reverse cable flyes   4 sets


hammer strength shrugs  3 sets


finished with 20 minutes on the elliptical
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 30, 2013, 09:03:56 PM
delts/calves/abs/forearms  small bodyparts ...

delts
smith front press x4
cable side laterals x3
upright narrow grip smith machine
seated bent over rear delt raise i hold dumbells instead palms faceing dumbell face each other tops then pull back a bit x3

shrugs on hammer chest press x4 20 rep sets worked 2 plates x30/3 plates x20 /4 plates x2 20 sick pump

calves worked hi reps standing machine 140 x30,160 x20/180 x20/200 x18 dead,,,

forearms superset wrist roller rope
behind back cable wrist curls

abs
my chest has some deeper etchings ,gym hot,diet ,sweating ,getting leaner ,,nice..
looking outstanding steverino!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 30, 2013, 09:42:20 PM
yes most people still think I look younger...suppose it's good...older women liked to take me into their busom... ;D

So, does this happen to you a lot? I mean women taking you into their bosom's. I always looked older than my age, never had that sweet little cherub face. Is this why I have not been taken into older women's bosoms? Come to think of it, at my age an older woman's bosom might not be much fun. There are not many "perky" 70 year olds.  ::)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 30, 2013, 10:06:22 PM
Thursday - back:

ISO bench rows, 4X12-8 @ 110 to 150
ISO front lat pull-down, 4X15-6 @ 120 to 260 lbs.
Nebula low row, 3X12-8 @ 140 to 180
Nautilus reverse wide grip pull down, 2X10-8 @ 104 to 145
Nautilus rowing back, 3X12-8 @ 60 to 100

one legged leg extensions 4X12 @ 52

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 30, 2013, 10:20:39 PM
delts/calves/abs/forearms  small bodyparts ...

delts
smith front press x4
cable side laterals x3
upright narrow grip smith machine
seated bent over rear delt raise i hold dumbells instead palms faceing dumbell face each other tops then pull back a bit x3

shrugs on hammer chest press x4 20 rep sets worked 2 plates x30/3 plates x20 /4 plates x2 20 sick pump

calves worked hi reps standing machine 140 x30,160 x20/180 x20/200 x18 dead,,,

forearms superset wrist roller rope
behind back cable wrist curls

abs
my chest has some deeper etchings ,gym hot,diet ,sweating ,getting leaner ,,nice..

Steve,

You have quite the vascularity in your lower arms. Do you think this is a result of getting leaner? Your chest does look more defined than in previous photos.

I am only on week 5 since starting back. I feel like there have already been many positive changes. Although I am not doing cardio, my stomach is flatter looking. My arms measured 16 3/4" when I got home from working arms yesterday. I suspect they were still somewhat pumped since it was only about an hour later. I have too much fat on my lower back still which is annoying....any ideas besides liposuction?

My plan is to take photos after I've been hitting the gym regularly for at least 12 weeks. Hopefully there will be a noticeable difference from my original photo shoot.

I slept with a pillow between my knees last night per my daughter's suggestion. I had to call her to thank her for the idea. The pain in my right knee was considerably better today and I got the best night's sleep I've had in over a month. It's weird, because I was sure I'd kick the pillow out during the night, but it stayed positioned between my knees cushioning the knee area all night long regardless of changing positions.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 30, 2013, 11:27:19 PM
Cool. I never really did it than hit the heavy bag. Who is your favorite boxer? Ali was mine worked mind games on people, then Tyson second.
i always liked the scottish boxer Jim Watt and this Irish Boxer...
 http://www.gordonpoole.com/Barry-McGuigan-MBE.aspx
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 30, 2013, 11:30:08 PM
Jim Watt from Glasgow....a great ..no outstanding Boxer
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2013, 12:04:52 AM
So, does this happen to you a lot? I mean women taking you into their bosom's. I always looked older than my age, never had that sweet little cherub face. Is this why I have not been taken into older women's bosoms? Come to think of it, at my age an older woman's bosom might not be much fun. There are not many "perky" 70 year olds.  ::)
yes i still get offers in the Gym... ;D I Keep my distance though...
so today i will get my arm workout in...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 31, 2013, 06:02:10 AM
Steve,

You have quite the vascularity in your lower arms. Do you think this is a result of getting leaner? Your chest does look more defined than in previous photos.

I am only on week 5 since starting back. I feel like there have already been many positive changes. Although I am not doing cardio, my stomach is flatter looking. My arms measured 16 3/4" when I got home from working arms yesterday. I suspect they were still somewhat pumped since it was only about an hour later. I have too much fat on my lower back still which is annoying....any ideas besides liposuction?

My plan is to take photos after I've been hitting the gym regularly for at least 12 weeks. Hopefully there will be a noticeable difference from my original photo shoot.

I slept with a pillow between my knees last night per my daughter's suggestion. I had to call her to thank her for the idea. The pain in my right knee was considerably better today and I got the best night's sleep I've had in over a month. It's weird, because I was sure I'd kick the pillow out during the night, but it stayed positioned between my knees cushioning the knee area all night long regardless of changing positions.


jay,,,combo of things,TRAINING intense as usual but a little more emphasis on squeezing,some drop sets,more hot weather I get more vasculararity naturally,chest/arms..i use some arginine too which increases blood flow as well,,,i am running on all cylinders again.pain free,but stretching more and focusing on muscle instead heavy weight all the time...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 31, 2013, 07:23:47 AM
Jim Watt from Glasgow....a great ..no outstanding Boxer

Hey Donny......I love the fight game too.......can't stand UFC......Give me good old school boxing any day!!!!


My favorite fighters are Vinny Pazienza, Sugar Ray Robinson, Jake Lamotta and Mike Tyson......also admired Carmen Basilio!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 31, 2013, 07:41:37 AM
Hey Donny......I love the fight game too.......can't stand UFC......Give me good old school boxing any day!!!!


My favorite fighters are Vinny Pazienza, Sugar Ray Robinson, Jake Lamotta and Mike Tyson......also admired Carmen Basilio!!!
Don't forget Ali - wild.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2013, 07:56:54 AM
Hey Donny......I love the fight game too.......can't stand UFC......Give me good old school boxing any day!!!!


My favorite fighters are Vinny Pazienza, Sugar Ray Robinson, Jake Lamotta and Mike Tyson......also admired Carmen Basilio!!!
yes great names in there...being a Scot Jim Watt was really like a sort of Hero when i grew up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2013, 08:07:53 AM
so i did Arms today and Cardio....

I did some pre-exhaust today...
ez bar preacher bench curls 4x10 (superset) with  narrow grip chins 4xmax

tricep pressdowns(straight bar) 4x12 (superset) with Narrow grip bench press 4x12 (smith machine for safety)

Cardio 30 mins interval. That was it short and intensive. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 31, 2013, 08:13:18 AM
so i did Arms today and Cardio....

I did some pre-exhaust today...
ez bar preacher bench curls 4x10 (superset) with  narrow grip chins 4xmax

tricep pressdowns(straight bar) 4x12 (superset) with Narrow grip bench press 4x12 (smith machine for safety)

Cardio 30 mins interval. That was it short and intensive. ;)
Looks good. I could never got my chest up until I did pre-exhaust chest having long arms the arms give up before chest. Now back a different story for some reason, I assume genes in control I never had a problem with back progress.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 31, 2013, 08:14:57 AM
Looks good. I could never get my chest up until I do pre-exhaust chest having long arms the arms give up before chest. Now back a different story for some reason, I assume genes in control I never had a problem with back progress.
DIPS AND FLYES THEN PRESSING LATER ON IN WORKOUT IS A HECK OF A PRE EXHAUST AND GREAT PUMPS....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2013, 08:21:06 AM
Pre- exhaust really blasts my arms. preachers before Close grip underhand chins are intensive. chest too..flys and presses. You can make a fairly light weight feel heavy. Just wanted to work hard on a few exercises today and get pumped...and i did.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2013, 08:22:18 AM
DIPS AND FLYES THEN PRESSING LATER ON IN WORKOUT IS A HECK OF A PRE EXHAUST AND GREAT PUMPS....
well you got the chest to prove it works...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 31, 2013, 08:31:10 AM
Pre- exhaust really blasts my arms. preachers before Close grip underhand chins are intensive. chest too..flys and presses. You can make a fairly light weight feel heavy. Just wanted to work hard on a few exercises today and get pumped...and i did.. ;D
I DID SLIGHT INCLINE BICEL DUMBELL CURLS LAT WORKOUT ,,MISSED THEM GREAT PUMP,,BACK IN THE ROTATION THEY GO,,,USUALLY MY 1 WRIST ANF FOREARM AREA CLOSE TO BICEP AND SPACE BETWWEN BI AND FOREARM HURT AT TIME  :PTHESES USUALLY AGGRAVATE IT ,,BUT IT FELT GOOD AND I DID THEM...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2013, 08:38:51 AM
I DID SLIGHT INCLINE BICEL DUMBELL CURLS LAT WORKOUT ,,MISSED THEM GREAT PUMP,,BACK IN THE ROTATION THEY GO,,,USUALLY MY 1 WRIST ANF FOREARM AREA CLOSE TO BICEP AND SPACE BETWWEN BI AND FOREARM HURT AT TIME  :PTHESES USUALLY AGGRAVATE IT ,,BUT IT FELT GOOD AND I DID THEM...
Incline Curls are great.. great Stretch and very strict....Steve Reeves loved them !!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 31, 2013, 08:43:42 AM
Incline Curls are great.. great Stretch and very strict....Steve Reeves loved them !!
WELL THERE YA GO,,,SEEN PICS OF REEVES DOING THEM...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2013, 08:44:43 AM
WELL THERE YA GO,,,SEEN PICS OF REEVES DOING THEM...
yes i know you know that Steve... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 31, 2013, 08:59:06 AM
yes i know you know that Steve... ;D
hi steve I like to introduce you to mr steve reeves,nice to me u steve ,like wise steve,steve whats ur favoritie bodypart .well you know steve its chest .whats your's steve?well steve.....ect...convo between me and steve reeves ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2013, 09:05:15 AM
hi Steve I like to introduce you to mr steve reeves,nice to me u steve ,like wise steve,steve whats ur favoritie bodypart .well you know steve its chest .whats your's steve?well steve.....ect...convo between me and steve reeves ;D
;D nice.....i think he would have approved of your chest development...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 31, 2013, 09:09:15 AM
;D nice.....i think he would have approved of your chest development...
thank u kind sir,,,, ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2013, 09:12:39 AM
thank u kind sir,,,, ;)
compliment where itīs due Steve... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 31, 2013, 11:32:47 AM
yes i still get offers in the Gym... ;D I Keep my distance though...
so today i will get my arm workout in...

Well enjoy it while you can. When I was your age and younger a lot more women flirted with me than do these days. I think I am just another kindly old grandpa to them. Little do they know what's going on inside my head....just kidding. And don't get me wrong, I am not suggesting you take them up on their offer. After all you are a married man, so continue to behave yourself.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 31, 2013, 11:38:40 AM
jay,,,combo of things,TRAINING intense as usual but a little more emphasis on squeezing,some drop sets,more hot weather I get more vasculararity naturally,chest/arms..i use some arginine too which increases blood flow as well,,,i am running on all cylinders again.pain free,but stretching more and focusing on muscle instead heavy weight all the time...

I think I tried arginine sometime back, but for a different reason. Maybe I should try it again. Some folks are just more vascular than others naturally. No doubt there are drugs that will enhance vascularity and having really low body fat percentages probably helps too. My veins are prominent (easy to find for lab work etc.) but they don't pop out like yours do except on the backs of my hands.

I am mixing it up as far as training goes. Sometimes I go heavy and lose a little form and control. Most of the time, I am handling what I can handle with good form and slow controlled movements.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2013, 11:43:48 AM
Well enjoy it while you can. When I was your age and younger a lot more women flirted with me than do these days. I think I am just another kindly old grandpa to them. Little do they know what's going on inside my head....just kidding. And don't get me wrong, I am not suggesting you take them up on their offer. After all you are a married man, so continue to behave yourself.  ;D
well i like to look at them sure...like any man but at work i do not want to involve myself with women. I have my Little biology grad who works for a pharmaceutical Company. She was A biology Teacher too.. i like intelligent women. I like how she talks to me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 31, 2013, 11:46:29 AM
I think I tried arginine sometime back, but for a different reason. Maybe I should try it again. Some folks are just more vascular than others naturally. No doubt there are drugs that will enhance vascularity and having really low body fat percentages probably helps too. My veins are prominent (easy to find for lab work etc.) but they don't pop out like yours do except on the backs of my hands.

I am mixing it up as far as training goes. Sometimes I go heavy and lose a little form and control. Most of the time, I am handling what I can handle with good form and slow controlled movements.
Arginine very good for the liver. I used to take liver tablets pure Vitamin B gives you energy as well. Vince Gironda approved.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 31, 2013, 11:47:05 AM
I think I tried arginine sometime back, but for a different reason. Maybe I should try it again. Some folks are just more vascular than others naturally. No doubt there are drugs that will enhance vascularity and having really low body fat percentages probably helps too. My veins are prominent (easy to find for lab work etc.) but they don't pop out like yours do except on the backs of my hands.

I am mixing it up as far as training goes. Sometimes I go heavy and lose a little form and control. Most of the time, I am handling what I can handle with good form and slow controlled movements.
YOUR ON THE RIGHT TRACK JAY,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2013, 11:48:44 AM
Arginine very good for the liver. I used to take liver tablets pure Vitamin B gives you energy as well. Vince Gironda approved.
is it really effective ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2013, 12:00:05 PM
serious question. I know Gironda recomended this but do you really think it is so good? and why?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2013, 12:12:00 PM
 :)
http://www.ironguru.com/power-liver-2000-500-dessicated-liver-tablets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 31, 2013, 12:14:16 PM
serious question. I know Gironda recomended this but do you really think it is so good? and why?
I did feel some energy from taking them, but at the time it was pain to take so many tablets a day it got old. Not sure what is related today if something is on the market in compare. They do help the liver B-complex is water soluble you will piss out what is not used.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2013, 12:16:06 PM
I did feel some energy from taking them, but at the time it was pain to take so many tablets a day it got old. Not sure what is related today if something is on the market in compare. They do help the liver B-complex is water soluble you will piss out what is not used.
I have never taken them and wanted to know...thanks.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 31, 2013, 06:42:17 PM
Ali was so damn good......what a tremendous showman......I always have heard that he was great with the fans......he never turned down an autograph!!!


Class act!!!!


Larry Holmes!!!!! Best jab of all time!!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 31, 2013, 06:44:14 PM
Ali was so damn good......what a tremendous showman......I always have heard that he was great with the fans......he never turned down an autograph!!!


Class act!!!!


Larry Holmes!!!!! Best jab of all time!!!!
True.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 31, 2013, 06:51:31 PM
True.
loved prime tyson,anticipation pay per view,black boots,cutoff towel draped on him ,beast,,,sugar ray,boom boom,late arturo gatti,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 31, 2013, 07:01:00 PM
loved prime tyson,anticipation pay per view,black boots,cutoff towel draped on him ,beast,,,sugar ray,boom boom,late arturo gatti,,,
Sad Gatti took himself out.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 31, 2013, 07:12:42 PM
Sad Gatti took himself out.
:-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 31, 2013, 07:37:44 PM
:-\
Gatti was one fierce son of a bitch......tough hombre!!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 31, 2013, 07:47:41 PM
i post all my workouts and pics to follow,, ,,some side and partial rear shots and u could get an idea where all my heavy back workouts and effort have gone...in the gym i wear long track suit pants all yr and nike sweat fit shirts never ,,ever tank top unless beach,,nobody at gym other than training partner seen me ,,other than u guys lol,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 01, 2013, 06:58:27 AM
looking great as always Steve... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 01, 2013, 06:10:20 PM
Friday - Shoulders and Abs:

weight 207

Hammer behind neck press, 5X15-6 @ 50 to 110 lbs.
Smith seated front press, 5X15-4 @ 90 to 150
Nautilus side lateral raise, 4X12-6 @ 85 to 125
Body Masters rear delt, 4X15-8 @ 50 to 80
Hammer BP machine shrugs, 4X15-8 @ 90 - 230
Cable upright rows, 3X12 @ 82.5
Nautilus low back, 3X20 @ 90
Nautilus rotary torso, 2X25 @ 60
Ab coaster, 2X25 @ BW
Nautilus crunches, 2X25 @ 75 to 85

Don't know what to call this machine except that it simulates running (I'll have to take a photo of it) 4X12 @ BW to 90; I did this to keep my knees simulated and exercise my flat ass.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 01, 2013, 06:20:15 PM
Friday - pecs:

Weight 207

Hammer bench press, 5X12-5 @ 90 to 150 lbs.
Hammer incline press, 4X12-8 @ 90 to 140
Hammer decline press, 5X15-5 @ 90 to 180
Weight assisted dips, 3 X 10-6 @ 127 to 167
Nautilus pec deck, 3X12-8 @ 80 to 120
Nautilus pullovers, 3X12-8 @ 100 to 140
Body Masters flys, 3X12 @ 70

one legged leg extensions 4X12 @ 58


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 02, 2013, 05:55:04 AM
Friday - pecs:

Weight 207

Hammer bench press, 5X12-5 @ 90 to 150 lbs.
Hammer incline press, 4X12-8 @ 90 to 140
Hammer decline press, 5X15-5 @ 90 to 180
Weight assisted dips, 3 X 10-6 @ 127 to 167
Nautilus pec deck, 3X12-8 @ 80 to 120
Nautilus pullovers, 3X12-8 @ 100 to 140
Body Masters flys, 3X12 @ 70

one legged leg extensions 4X12 @ 58



I wish we had Hammer strength machines where i work....looking good Jay. was running in th Woods...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 02, 2013, 12:43:22 PM
I wish we had Hammer strength machines where i work....looking good Jay. was running in th Woods...

Did you run across any "wood nymphs" while you were there?

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 02, 2013, 12:56:04 PM
Never that lucky jay ... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 02, 2013, 01:20:03 PM
Never that lucky jay ... ;D

Perhaps you are running too fast and you missed them.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 02, 2013, 06:47:37 PM
leg day ...

did extensions 1st 175 x12/190 x12/205 x12/220 x12/235x12/250 x12...1st 2 sets were light,knees needed warm up early morning workout lol,,
leg press 4 plates x12/5 platesx12/6x10/7 x10
squat 225x12/275x12/315x12 pumped close feet version,,,

hams sldl 135x12/185x12/225x12
seated leg cuel sit up version,,180x12/195x12/210x10,,,,did alot of 12's weight felt heavy but moved nice,,

calves leg press x3 and seated calf x3...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 02, 2013, 09:40:15 PM
leg day ...

did extensions 1st 175 x12/190 x12/205 x12/220 x12/235x12/250 x12...1st 2 sets were light,knees needed warm up early morning workout lol,,
leg press 4 plates x12/5 platesx12/6x10/7 x10
squat 225x12/275x12/315x12 pumped close feet version,,,

hams sldl 135x12/185x12/225x12
seated leg cuel sit up version,,180x12/195x12/210x10,,,,did alot of 12's weight felt heavy but moved nice,,

calves leg press x3 and seated calf x3...

Well now I am pissed!  ;)  I worked legs today too. It was a difficult decision because Sunday is usually my "day of rest" not for any religious reasons either, but just 'cus. What has me pissed is you using so gosh darn much weight. How the hell am I ever going to catch up to you? Here is my wimpy workout (still nursing my knee). Note: I realized that I forgot the paper with my workout routine and progress printed on it when I got to the gym, so I improvised. My goal was lots of reps. I think I achieved this.

Quads and Calves:

Nautilus leg extensions, 5X20-10 @ 100 to 140 lbs.
Standing calf raises, 5X20-10 @ 180 to 260
Leg press, 5 X 25-10 @ 100 to 500 added weight
Leg press calf raises, 4X20-12 @ 200 added weight
Hack squat, 3X12-8 @ machine weight to 180
Seated calf raise, 4X25-8 @ 90 to 135


Knee feels okay tonight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 03, 2013, 08:06:32 AM
Well now I am pissed!  ;)  I worked legs today too. It was a difficult decision because Sunday is usually my "day of rest" not for any religious reasons either, but just 'cus. What has me pissed is you using so gosh darn much weight. How the hell am I ever going to catch up to you? Here is my wimpy workout (still nursing my knee). Note: I realized that I forgot the paper with my workout routine and progress printed on it when I got to the gym, so I improvised. My goal was lots of reps. I think I achieved this.

Quads and Calves:

Nautilus leg extensions, 5X20-10 @ 100 to 140 lbs.
Standing calf raises, 5X20-10 @ 180 to 260
Leg press, 5 X 25-10 @ 100 to 500 added weight
Leg press calf raises, 4X20-12 @ 200 added weight
Hack squat, 3X12-8 @ machine weight to 180
Seated calf raise, 4X25-8 @ 90 to 135


Knee feels okay tonight.

AFTER THAT WORKOUT ,I ATE EGGBEATERS ON WHOLE GRAIN BAGEL,THEN MOWED THE LAWN STILL PUMPED.LOT OF FLUIDS WAS HOT IN JERSEY,SET UP KIDS POOL TO SWIM IN NICE LITTLE BLOW UP TYPE THEY JUMPED IN IT ALL DAY,,,GOT SOME SUN TOO,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 03, 2013, 09:53:44 AM
chest and abs...

 machine fly 3x12 Superset with
 seated machine press 3x8-10

 Incline bench cable crossovers 3x12 Superset with
 Incline smith machine press 3x8-10

 push ups (Hands on flat bench) 1x max  Superset with
 Decline cable flyes 1x12

I run out of steam on the last two so i did 1 set.. so Job done.. only pain is Setting up the bench all the time and the cables left/right but on the whole a good feel to it ..

finished with cable crunches 3x15.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 03, 2013, 09:57:49 AM
chest and abs...

 machine fly 3x12 Superset with
 seated machine press 3x8-10

 Incline bench cable crossovers 3x12 Superset with
 Incline smith machine press 3x8-10

 push ups (Hands on flat bench) 1x max  Superset with
 Decline cable flyes 1x12

I run out of steam on the last two so i did 1 set.. so Job done.. only pain is Setting up the bench all the time and the cables left/right but on the whole a good feel to it ..

finished with cable crunches 3x15.
I might superset chest to nite,,u got me thinking,,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 03, 2013, 10:00:43 AM
I might superset chest to nite,,u got me thinking,,,,,
I was experimenting a bit Steve....was fun... take angles to the extreme...the last exercise you could do Dips/machine Dips...i was too tired.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 03, 2013, 10:04:41 AM
I was experimenting a bit Steve....was fun... take angles to the extreme...the last exercise you could do Dips/machine Dips...i was too tired.
:)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 03, 2013, 10:59:28 AM
AFTER THAT WORKOUT ,I ATE EGGBEATERS ON WHOLE GRAIN BAGEL,THEN MOWED THE LAWN STILL PUMPED.LOT OF FLUIDS WAS HOT IN JERSEY,SET UP KIDS POOL TO SWIM IN NICE LITTLE BLOW UP TYPE THEY JUMPED IN IT ALL DAY,,,GOT SOME SUN TOO,,,

How many laps did you swim in your kid's pool?  ;D

Are you rubbing it in with the comment that you were still pumped? I am not sure if I even feel a little sore this morning from my leg workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 03, 2013, 11:04:52 AM
we are all pumped up on this thread... ;D well my Boys here are getting a couple of xl Pizzas so i think i will get a Piece....  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 03, 2013, 11:09:34 AM
we are all pumped up on this thread... ;D well my Boys here are getting a couple of xl Pizzas so i think i will get a Piece....  ;D


Thin crust chicken garlic is my favorite pizza.

I am working on my posture, well, not at this moment since I am slouched in the desk chair. Anyway, I found some do at home exercises for forward head syndrome. I started doing these yesterday. Damn, I am going to be so hot looking someday!  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 03, 2013, 11:11:15 AM
How many laps did you swim in your kid's pool?  ;D

Are you rubbing it in with the comment that you were still pumped? I am not sure if I even feel a little sore this morning from my leg workout.
:D,,cute jay,,,hot,shirt off mowing lawn,,u know as I was pushing mower I would take a gander at my vascular calves still pumped from greauling  leg workout 1 hr before,,, ;D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 03, 2013, 11:16:19 AM
:D,,cute jay,,,hot,shirt off mowing lawn,,u know as I was pushing mower I would take a gander at my vascular calves still pumped from greauling  leg workout 1 hr before,,, ;D...

Fine, my lawn needs mowing soon too. I think I will mow naked, pumped and flexed. You know, to give the neighbor ladies a treat. Luckily, I'll be far enough away that they won't notice I don't have your vascularity.  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 03, 2013, 11:30:18 AM
Fine, my lawn needs mowing soon too. I think I will mow naked, pumped and flexed. You know, to give the neighbor ladies a treat. Luckily, I'll be far enough away that they won't notice I don't have your vascularity.  :D
:o... :D...as long as they don't have blue hair your ok....the sun does feels nice on your body,my lawn is like yours green and well manicured,i plant own bushes,do mulching but switched to nice rocks to match siding/shudders ,,I am well thought out on life in terms of vain ness and asthetics on visual aspect of things,wife does the real stuff,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 03, 2013, 07:37:38 PM
took a page out of donny's notebook,,,

chest
started db press still working on recapturing form/reps/weight ,,inching closer did 50's x12/60's 10/65x8 2 sets 70's x6 pooped out ok,,better than 25's lol,,,
then donny workout superset inc press with inc flye x3
hammer machine mid press with dips ,getting stronger dips almost 10 clean ,,was doing zerooooo wks ago lol,,,
finished 2 sets hi rep cable crossovers

abs as intermission 6 sets

then tris
dip machine superset extension machine x3
pushdowns with cable kick backs x3
2 sets rope pulldowns x15 pullout /flex at bottom...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 03, 2013, 09:08:38 PM
I am back on schedule, yahoo!

Monday - arms:

Weight 207

Seated alternate dumbbell curls: 5X15-5 @ 25 to 45 lbs.
Cable triceps press-down: 5X15-6 @ 109 to 163
Cable standing EZ curls: 4X12-6 @ 82 to 123
seated triceps extension: 4X15-8 @ 60 to 90
Nautilus multi biceps: 3X12-8 @ 55 to 75
Nautilus triceps machine: 3X12-8 @ 120 to 140
Wrist curls: 3X15-10 @ 80 to 100
Reverse EZ curls: 3X12-8 @ 80 to 109
Standing cable curls: 3X15 at 37 to 23

Did the usual single leg, leg extensions: 4x15-12 @ 60 ea leg. I may start cutting this back to every other day because I suspect it is becoming counter productive. Tonight, both my knees are sore and my legs are fidgety.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 04, 2013, 04:12:34 AM
Yesterday I did back and delts. Sets are work sets not warm ups.

Chins 2 sets of max
Low cable row 2 x12
Single dumbbell row bench 2 x10
Reverse grip pulldown 2 x10

press behind neck 2 x 6 (lowered bar to traps like I was going to squat)
dumbbell delt laterals 2 x10
single arm pulley laterals 1x10
rear delt dumbbell lateral 2 x10

dead lifts 2 x 4 then 1 x 1
barbell shrugs 2 x10

weighted back extensions 2 x 15
weighted floor crunches 2 x 40

I injured my calf running so today will be a fast walk for 4.3 miles. Hopefully the calf will hold up.





Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 04, 2013, 06:17:27 AM
Yesterday I did back and delts. Sets are work sets not warm ups.

Chins 2 sets of max
Low cable row 2 x12
Single dumbbell row bench 2 x10
Reverse grip pulldown 2 x10

press behind neck 2 x 6 (lowered bar to traps like I was going to squat)
dumbbell delt laterals 2 x10
single arm pulley laterals 1x10
rear delt dumbbell lateral 2 x10

dead lifts 2 x 4 then 1 x 1
barbell shrugs 2 x10

weighted back extensions 2 x 15
weighted floor crunches 2 x 40

I injured my calf running so today will be a fast walk for 4.3 miles. Hopefully the calf will hold up.






nice all round workout... :) will get my arse in gear and work back later after work...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 04, 2013, 08:29:36 AM
I worked arms last eve:


rope pushdowns   4 sets

machine dips    3 sets

lying db extensions  3 sets


alternate db curls  5 sets

precor machine curls   4 sets


20 minutes on the elliptical
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 04, 2013, 08:54:27 AM
I worked arms last eve:


rope pushdowns   4 sets

machine dips    3 sets

lying db extensions  3 sets


alternate db curls  5 sets

precor machine curls   4 sets


20 minutes on the elliptical
nice..2 exercises to get 9 sets bi's will,i usually do 3 sets of 3 exerscices
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 04, 2013, 09:52:31 AM
nice..2 exercises to get 9 sets bi's will,i usually do 3 sets of 3 exerscices
I just go by feel......sometimes I stick with two exercises....other times I will go with three exercises.......I am very instinctive.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 04, 2013, 09:54:01 AM
I just go by feel......sometimes I stick with two exercises....other times I will go with three exercises.......I am very instinctive.
8)...WORX
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on June 04, 2013, 03:29:12 PM
Good to see everyone is well and training hard.   :)  I have been MIA the past couple of weeks but I am back.  Just felt like keeping to myself, don't know why.  I gave up my coffee in the mornings.  I drink a natural organic cocoa with honey for sweetness.  Its quite bitter so I need the honey.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 04, 2013, 04:42:54 PM
Good to see everyone is well and training hard.   :)  I have been MIA the past couple of weeks but I am back.  Just felt like keeping to myself, don't know why.  I gave up my coffee in the mornings.  I drink a natural organic cocoa with honey for sweetness.  Its quite bitter so I need the honey.
Good to see are back. B-vitamins is contained in honey good for energy. How is the nose?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on June 04, 2013, 05:23:05 PM
Good to see are back. B-vitamins is contained in honey good for energy. How is the nose?
The pollen is high here as the sugar cane is flowering.  I had such bad hayfever yesterday that I took phenergan again and it knocked me out.  Felt pretty crappy last night as its dehydrating.  I am pretty grumpy as I have pms and I have been swollen and sore for over a week.  I haven't felt like being around people, even my friends here.  Last weekend they tried to drag me out and i wanted to stay home and watch tv and not see anybody. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 04, 2013, 05:55:30 PM
Try one of the non drowsy allergy pills. They really work well if you take then for a week or so. Something like Claritin doesn't make you tired and if you can take it for a week or more to dry you out.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 04, 2013, 08:20:54 PM
Tuesday - hams and glutes

Weight 209

Nautilus lying leg curls: 4X14-6 @ 57 to 87 lbs.
Nautilus seated leg curls: 4X15-8 @ 90 to 120
Reverse hack squats: 3X14-10 @ 90 to 315
Hip abduction: 3X20-12 @ 90 to 110
Hip adduction: 3X18-12 @ 120 to 140
Machine kick backs: 3X20-16 @ 90 to 180 (I have looked all over the Internet for a picture of this machine and can't find it. Like I said I would, I'll just have to take a photo of it).

I decided to forego calves today because I worked them pretty hard on Sunday and I didn't think 2 day's recovery was enough. You might wonder why anyone would make a point of working their glutes. If you could see how flat mine are, you'd understand. The reverse hack squats, hip abduction and kick backs really work the glutes, both maximus and medius.


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on June 04, 2013, 09:49:41 PM
Try one of the non drowsy allergy pills. They really work well if you take then for a week or so. Something like Claritin doesn't make you tired and if you can take it for a week or more to dry you out.
Thank you Oldtime1.  I might just take your advice as i still need to be able to drive a car etc. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 04, 2013, 10:45:39 PM
The pollen is high here as the sugar cane is flowering.  I had such bad hayfever yesterday that I took phenergan again and it knocked me out.  Felt pretty crappy last night as its dehydrating.  I am pretty grumpy as I have pms and I have been swollen and sore for over a week.  I haven't felt like being around people, even my friends here.  Last weekend they tried to drag me out and i wanted to stay home and watch tv and not see anybody. 
Sorry to hear. Sounds like you have a bad allergy to pollen do you get this way every year around this time?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on June 04, 2013, 11:07:03 PM
Sorry to hear. Sounds like you have a bad allergy to pollen do you get this way every year around this time?
I always get a little bit this time of year but never as bad.  I am fine today.  The phenergan really gets rid of it.  That's why I took it yesterday so that I would be fine for the rest of the week.  But guys I have got to start posting again.  I am acting like such a goof on facebook...just being an idiot.  I know I need to be active again on here.  It's twice today I have laughed so much that tears have run down my face.  I am trying to put the fear into a immigrant in regards to our crocs.  I need to stop pulling pranks on everyone.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 04, 2013, 11:36:39 PM
I always get a little bit this time of year but never as bad.  I am fine today.  The phenergan really gets rid of it.  That's why I took it yesterday so that I would be fine for the rest of the week.  But guys I have got to start posting again.  I am acting like such a goof on facebook...just being an idiot.  I know I need to be active again on here.  It's twice today I have laughed so much that tears have run down my face.  I am trying to put the fear into a immigrant in regards to our crocs.  I need to stop pulling pranks on everyone.   ;D
Yes some funny Blokes around here come on back here it is freedom of speech and we go at each other daily, Facebook is too serious but ok. Good to hear you are better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on June 05, 2013, 12:07:28 AM
Yes some funny Blokes around here come on back here it is freedom of speech and we go at each other daily, Facebook is too serious but ok. Good to hear you are better.
I just called some guy an asswipe so better start posting here again.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 05, 2013, 12:10:34 AM
I just called some guy an asswipe so better start posting here again.   ;D
Good work, unless it was Mel Gibson.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 05, 2013, 12:26:33 AM
I just called some guy an asswipe so better start posting here again.   ;D

Did he deserve it? So then, what's the problem? Anyway, glad to have you back. We guys at the Mature thread need a woman's perspective every now and again and you seem to be the it girl.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on June 05, 2013, 01:15:31 AM
Good work, unless it was Mel Gibson.
He did deserve it.  He called some pic fake, photoshopped...it was a pic of a fireman holding a koala bears hand as he fed it some water from a bottle in a bushfire.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on June 05, 2013, 01:17:05 AM
Did he deserve it? So then, what's the problem? Anyway, glad to have you back. We guys at the Mature thread need a woman's perspective every now and again and you seem to be the it girl.
Thank you Jay and good to be back.  I can't hibernate, it's not natural for me.  I give an honest opinion even if I am too honest and straight forward.  My best friend finds me too much at times because she says I rub salt in her wounds. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 05, 2013, 01:54:47 AM
He did deserve it.  He called some pic fake, photoshopped...it was a pic of a fireman holding a koala bears hand as he fed it some water from a bottle in a bushfire.
ah yes Karen i saw that on Facebook this morning....nice pic ;) Koala bears look nice, well to me anyway in reality they could be aggressive in the wild. Only ever seen one in Pictures... :(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 05, 2013, 02:07:13 AM
I just go by feel......sometimes I stick with two exercises....other times I will go with three exercises.......I am very instinctive.
yes i agree 100%.. infact i was talking to a guy last night and he said since he cut back on his sets for arms they are growing... but i agree George you have to train by instinct.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 05, 2013, 02:14:34 AM
so last night i had a back workout...

 pulldowns behind neck 4x12 ( not done These in a Long time)
 Close grip parallel pulldowns to chest (leaning back, chest out) 3x12
 Barbell rows 4x10
 Deadlifts 4x 10,8,6,6 (pyramid)

 cable crunch 3x15 superset with leg raises 3x30 off a flat bench.
 too finish off the fun i did 40 mins Interval on a bike.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on June 05, 2013, 05:40:27 AM
ah yes Karen i saw that on Facebook this morning....nice pic ;) Koala bears look nice, well to me anyway in reality they could be aggressive in the wild. Only ever seen one in Pictures... :(
Only wild blondies who are foaming at the mouth due to a mayo allergy are aggressive.   :D  Koala bears are gentle creatures... :P

Here's the pic for everyone else.   :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 05, 2013, 05:58:44 AM
I want one.... ;D i do like animals..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 05, 2013, 06:03:52 AM
Only wild blondies who are foaming at the mouth due to a mayo allergy are aggressive.   :D  Koala bears are gentle creatures... :P

Here's the pic for everyone else.   :)
I saw one beat the piss out of a Kangaroo when I was there, they have bad tempers.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 05, 2013, 06:06:39 AM
ever tried Kangaroo Steaks??? ;D is it true People eat them ?? ???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 05, 2013, 11:47:31 AM
so last night i had a back workout...

 pulldowns behind neck 4x12 ( not done These in a Long time)
 Close grip parallel pulldowns to chest (leaning back, chest out) 3x12
 Barbell rows 4x10
 Deadlifts 4x 10,8,6,6 (pyramid)

 cable crunch 3x15 superset with leg raises 3x30 off a flat bench.
 too finish off the fun i did 40 mins Interval on a bike.
solid workout!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 05, 2013, 02:26:48 PM
I did chest and arms today. All sets shown are work sets not warm ups:

Dumbbell flat bench 2 sets of 8 reps
Incline dumbbell bench 2 x 8
Flat flies 2 x10

barbell curls 2 x 10
alternate dumbbell curls 2 x 8
single arm pulley curls 2 x12

triceps pulley pushdowns 2 x 10
single dumbbell with two hands 2 x 10 ( lean back on a reversed scott bench)
reverse single arm triceps extensions 2x12

forearm wrist curls 2 x 20
reverse wrist extensions 2 x 15

hanging leg raise 2 x max
hip ups 2 x 22 (lie on back and raise your legs. Push hips toward the sky.)
ab pulley crunches 2 x 30

ivanko grippers 2 x 20

I rested for about an hour then ran two miles. It turned out to be a big mistake on my sore lower calf. I will only walk and bike for cardio for about a month.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on June 05, 2013, 03:43:35 PM
I saw one beat the piss out of a Kangaroo when I was there, they have bad tempers.
You saw a wild blond beat up a roo?   :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 05, 2013, 04:07:36 PM
You saw a wild blond beat up a roo?   :o
No it was a redhead. You maybe the first I see doing that.  8) Pms rules.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 05, 2013, 07:44:18 PM
back triset
1 bent over row
2 low pully cable row
3 reverse hammer pulldown
3 times around 8/10 reps per movement.
then
1 front pulldown
2 tbar row wide grip chest to pad version
3x around 10 reps each

great pump something different

bi's
curl bar premade 60/70/80 10 reps per slow /squeeze
inc db curl 30/30/35 again close to or 10 reps per...
seated concetration elbow to leg 3x 25/30/35

abs hanging leg raises x3
crunches floor and legs on bench 3x30
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 06, 2013, 02:55:42 AM
I did chest and arms today. All sets shown are work sets not warm ups:

Dumbbell flat bench 2 sets of 8 reps
Incline dumbbell bench 2 x 8
Flat flies 2 x10

barbell curls 2 x 10
alternate dumbbell curls 2 x 8
single arm pulley curls 2 x12

triceps pulley pushdowns 2 x 10
single dumbbell with two hands 2 x 10 ( lean back on a reversed scott bench)
reverse single arm triceps extensions 2x12

forearm wrist curls 2 x 20
reverse wrist extensions 2 x 15

hanging leg raise 2 x max
hip ups 2 x 22 (lie on back and raise your legs. Push hips toward the sky.)
ab pulley crunches 2 x 30

ivanko grippers 2 x 20

I rested for about an hour then ran two miles. It turned out to be a big mistake on my sore lower calf. I will only walk and bike for cardio for about a month.
Hip ups are a hard exercise...you have strong abs. workout Looks good.
back triset
1 bent over row
2 low pully cable row
3 reverse hammer pulldown
3 times around 8/10 reps per movement.
then
1 front pulldown
2 tbar row wide grip chest to pad version
3x around 10 reps each

great pump something different

bi's
curl bar premade 60/70/80 10 reps per slow /squeeze
inc db curl 30/30/35 again close to or 10 reps per...
seated concetration elbow to leg 3x 25/30/35

abs hanging leg raises x3
crunches floor and legs on bench 3x30

GREAT TRI SET Steve....you were sweating after that ! no wonder you never bother with Cardio. Tri Sets and Giant sets for a big muscle Group are intensity  ;D I broke sweat just reading your workout....well done !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 06, 2013, 04:57:16 AM
so i just did 5 Tabatas back to back....jumping rope. I nearly could not do the first one because i was laughing so much at the Rocky Music....hi hi .. ;D reminded me of Boxing Training as a Young Boy...oh...the good times.... ;) still got a bit of nasty in me. Itīs Born in you.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 06, 2013, 05:04:49 AM
thanks Donny,,,feel nice pump still and soreness good soreness,,,i wanted to move fast last nite and came up with it,,,nice change /pump is great,yeah I was sweating and great vascularity in arms for doing bi/back.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 06, 2013, 10:57:10 AM
The dreaded leg day today:

leg press 2 x 12
squats 2 x 8 then 1 x 1
tuff stuff squat machine 1 x10 (feels different from bar squats)
leg extension 2x20
seated leg curls 2 x 15
standing leg curls 2 x 12

single dumbbell side bend 1 x 15
hanging leg raise 2 x max
hip ups 2 x 22
pulley ab crunches 2 x 25

leg press calf 2 x 20
standing calf  2 x15
leverage standing calf machine 1 x 15
seated calf 2 x 15

neck work.

Really feel drained. Squats went well. I feel my strength is returning. I always use a whey protein after my weight workouts. I'm going to stop and see how it goes. The price of isolate whey is off the charts. I suspect it's just a psychological advantage. I will see.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 06, 2013, 07:38:09 PM
delts in super set mood again,,

front press with side laterals x3,,135 x10/25 lb lateral x10,155 x10/30 lb x10,repeat x10 /30 lateral x10
 
upright rows with under handed front raise dbells,,premade bar curl bar upright 60lb x10,30 lb front raise x10,80 lb bar x10 w/30 lb x10 ,repeat
same as previous.

finished 4 sets bent over seated rear delt 25,25,30,30 x10 per set

shrugs on chest machine 2 plates x30,3 plates x20,4 plates x15,5 plates x12

calves 5 sets standing calf raise
forearms weighted rolls x3 and reverse cable wrist curl..
one of my more detailed most muscular poses,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 06, 2013, 08:51:18 PM
NICE WORK STEVERINO!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 07, 2013, 08:49:11 AM
JEEZ...Steve you look like you are gonna explode... ;D great work.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 07, 2013, 09:11:29 AM
JEEZ...Steve you look like you are gonna explode... ;D great work.
LOL  NOT QUITE,,,I DO FEEL GOOD RIGHT NOW ,,BUILD IS COMING TOGETHER ,,SUMMER LOOK,CUT CARBS JUST A BIT...I FELL REALLY BACK/SHOULDER WISE BACK TO NORMAL,,,SUPERSETTING IS GREAT TO DO INSTEAD OF TRYING TO MAX MY OLD SETS/WEIGHT PREINJURY,I'M REAL CLOSE IN TERMS OF FULL STRENGHT ,,BUT AS ONE INJURY SOLVES ANOTHER COMES,AROUND TRYING TO COMPENSATE R/S DUE TO LEFT WEAKNESS MY R/S LOWER BICEP INTO FORARM IS HURTING SO CHINUPS HAVE TO BE DONE UNDERHAND GRIP AND PULLDOWNS TOO,,GEETING BACK TO THE 'LOOK'I AM CANDID /HONEST HERE IF I REALLY GOT BACK INTO GAME AND 'USED'I COULD ONLY IMAGINE HOW MUCH FREAKIER I COULD LOOK,BUT HONESTLY AT 45 I CAN'T ASK FOR MORE IN TERMS OF TRAINING AND BUILD I HAVE MAINTAINED /AQUIRED AND ITS PRETTY MUCH ALL MINE ,,,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 07, 2013, 09:22:53 AM
so i did arms today...
Pre exhaust ...just to shake it up..
tricep pushdowns (straight bar) 3x15 with
Dips machine 3x 10
Tricep machine 3x15 with
Smith machine Close grip bench press 3x10

Preacher bench sz curls 3x15 with
Close grip chins 3xmax
one arm cable curls 3x15 with
reverse barbell curls (Standing, normally i like to do These on the preacher bench but i was taxed) 3x10

Abs: seated bench knee raises, leaning back and on the raise(of my knees) crunching my upper lower Abs together.. yes ..yes there is no upper lower Region but you know what i mean. Crunching the abs together .. a great exercise sometimes called seated bench tucks. I really feel my abs on These.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 07, 2013, 09:25:40 AM
LOL  NOT QUITE,,,I DO FEEL GOOD RIGHT NOW ,,BUILD IS COMING TOGETHER ,,SUMMER LOOK,CUT CARBS JUST A BIT...I FELL REALLY BACK/SHOULDER WISE BACK TO NORMAL,,,SUPERSETTING IS GREAT TO DO INSTEAD OF TRYING TO MAX MY OLD SETS/WEIGHT PREINJURY,I'M REAL CLOSE IN TERMS OF FULL STRENGHT ,,BUT AS ONE INJURY SOLVES ANOTHER COMES,AROUND TRYING TO COMPENSATE R/S DUE TO LEFT WEAKNESS MY R/S LOWER BICEP INTO FORARM IS HURTING SO CHINUPS HAVE TO BE DONE UNDERHAND GRIP AND PULLDOWNS TOO,,GEETING BACK TO THE 'LOOK'I AM CANDID /HONEST HERE IF I REALLY GOT BACK INTO GAME AND 'USED'I COULD ONLY IMAGINE HOW MUCH FREAKIER I COULD LOOK,BUT HONESTLY AT 45 I CAN'T ASK FOR MORE IN TERMS OF TRAINING AND BUILD I HAVE MAINTAINED /AQUIRED AND ITS PRETTY MUCH ALL MINE ,,,,,,
i Salute you Sir  ;D Steve you look better than most of us..lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 07, 2013, 09:30:39 AM
i Salute you Sir  ;D Steve you look better than most of us..lol
WELL THANK YOU DONNY,,,WE ARE IN SAME 'BOAT'WE KEEP TRAINING AT A HARD PACE TO KEEP OURSELVES IN OUR 'PRIME'EVEN THOUGH AT OUR AGE WE ARE CONSIDERED MIDDLE OF THE ROAD NOW :-\,,BUT ON A POSITIVE NOT 40 IS NEW 30 AND SO ON,,,,THERE HAS TO BE AN ALL AROUND POSITIVE ATTITUDE TO MAINTAIN/KEEP THE OUTSIDE LOOKING GOOD,AND EATING FOR THE INSIDE ,THEN ITS UP TO GENES AND GOD OR WHOMEVER TO CHANGE OR THROW THE MONKEY WRENCH INTO PLANS/LIFE..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 07, 2013, 09:42:51 AM
WELL THANK YOU DONNY,,,WE ARE IN SAME 'BOAT'WE KEEP TRAINING AT A HARD PACE TO KEEP OURSELVES IN OUR 'PRIME'EVEN THOUGH AT OUR AGE WE ARE CONSIDERED MIDDLE OF THE ROAD NOW :-\,,BUT ON A POSITIVE NOT 40 IS NEW 30 AND SO ON,,,,THERE HAS TO BE AN ALL AROUND POSITIVE ATTITUDE TO MAINTAIN/KEEP THE OUTSIDE LOOKING GOOD,AND EATING FOR THE INSIDE ,THEN ITS UP TO GENES AND GOD OR WHOMEVER TO CHANGE OR THROW THE MONKEY WRENCH INTO PLANS/LIFE..
could not put it better... i really never think about my Age....suppose i did just before 40 but now i go just by how i feel. I mean i am 47, another Trainer at work is 45 and we have younger Trainers. Itīs the same with courses.. a mix really so you are not old at 40+.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 07, 2013, 11:19:13 AM
could not put it better... i really never think about my Age....suppose i did just before 40 but now i go just by how i feel. I mean i am 47, another Trainer at work is 45 and we have younger Trainers. Itīs the same with courses.. a mix really so you are not old at 40+.... ;D

Being a "mature" person, if I were to hire a trainer, I would prefer someone with some experience and age to a young fellow or gal who has no idea what comes with age. Hopefully you will continue your work as a trainer for many years to come.

My wife has been going to physical therapy. Her therapist has her out on the gym floor doing some exercises, which is great. Her muscle strength is near nothing which is probably causing a lot of the problems she's had lately, like falling. My wife amazed me last night when she asked if I thought it would be a good idea if she joined the gym on a month to month basis. I told her that it was an excellent idea. For the time being, I advised she continue with physical therapy and letting her therapists train her on how to use the equipment. One thing that is so great about the gym is that there are people of all ages working out and people with all manner of handicaps who manage to put forth some effort to be more fit. I think this has inspired my wife some. Not that I am at some unattainable peak of fitness, but I think my wife is a bit intimidated by my commitment to working out.

I did work my back last Thursday, I just haven't gotten around to posting it up yet. Yesterday, I got home from meetings at around 3:30 p.m. and I just didn't feel like going to the gym. I also had a wave of depression come over me which kind of bummed me out too. My son sent me an email that his brother-in-law had died the night before from complications following treatment for colon cancer. He was probably only in his early 50's. I don't know why this upset me so much, but it did. A couple of shots of Tequila numbed the depression and I feel much better today. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 07, 2013, 11:24:52 AM
Being a "mature" person, if I were to hire a trainer, I would prefer someone with some experience and age to a young fellow or gal who has no idea what comes with age. Hopefully you will continue your work as a trainer for many years to come.

My wife has been going to physical therapy. Her therapist has her out on the gym floor doing some exercises, which is great. Her muscle strength is near nothing which is probably causing a lot of the problems she's had lately, like falling. My wife amazed me last night when she asked if I thought it would be a good idea if she joined the gym on a month to month basis. I told her that it was an excellent idea. For the time being, I advised she continue with physical therapy and letting her therapists train her on how to use the equipment. One thing that is so great about the gym is that there are people of all ages working out and people with all manner of handicaps who manage to put forth some effort to be more fit. I think this has inspired my wife some. Not that I am at some unattainable peak of fitness, but I think my wife is a bit intimidated by my commitment to working out.

I did work my back last Thursday, I just haven't gotten around to posting it up yet. Yesterday, I got home from meetings at around 3:30 p.m. and I just didn't feel like going to the gym. I also had a wave of depression come over me which kind of bummed me out too. My son sent me an email that his brother-in-law had died the night before from complications following treatment for colon cancer. He was probably only in his early 50's. I don't know why this upset me so much, but it did. A couple of shots of Tequila numbed the depression and I feel much better today. 
JAY UR A GOOD MAN...GOOD HEART FOR YOUR KIDS AND EAR...HUMAN NATURE TO FEEL SYMPATHY/LOSS..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 07, 2013, 11:46:12 AM
JAY UR A GOOD MAN...GOOD HEART FOR YOUR KIDS AND EAR...HUMAN NATURE TO FEEL SYMPATHY/LOSS..
x2...Jay you are a good man.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: NI_Muscle on June 07, 2013, 01:40:45 PM
Hey Guys

Please excuse a newbie here but just wanted to say, I've been watching this thread for the last few months, and even though I'm probably a bit young (at 35 i hope lol...) - you guys really are an inspiration.

Jay - my heart goes out to your situation, Donny, as ex MoD myself, I really enjoy your posts too.

Everyone else who's contributed here - keep it up.

We all come on here for a laugh of course - via the G&O board, but this thread keeps things real.

Salute

NI Muscle
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 07, 2013, 05:41:38 PM
might not be Koala Bears but i liked..still like Bon Scott----
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Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 07, 2013, 08:35:46 PM
I am officially on holiday from the gym. After saying I was going today, I did not. I hope I make it tomorrow. As I said to my wife this evening over dinner, I feel like I am losing some of the balance in my life. My whole day is focused on making it to the gym. Sad to say that after only 5+ weeks I feel like I need a breather.

My fucking knee is acting up again (not that it was ever really better). The pain just drains me. I have put off going to the doctor to see what the heck is really going on with it, preferring instead to try and fix it with exercise. Well, I am waving the white flag now. I need to know what is going on and how or if I can fix it. Who knows. my daughter may be right that I have a torn meniscus. If that is the case, I'll be eating some humble pie.

Is this part of being mature. It doesn't feel like mature behavior to me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 07, 2013, 08:55:24 PM
I am officially on holiday from the gym. After saying I was going today, I did not. I hope I make it tomorrow. As I said to my wife this evening over dinner, I feel like I am losing some of the balance in my life. My whole day is focused on making it to the gym. Sad to say that after only 5+ weeks I feel like I need a breather.

My fucking knee is acting up again (not that it was ever really better). The pain just drains me. I have put off going to the doctor to see what the heck is really going on with it, preferring instead to try and fix it with exercise. Well, I am waving the white flag now. I need to know what is going on and how or if I can fix it. Who knows. my daughter may be right that I have a torn meniscus. If that is the case, I'll be eating some humble pie.

Is this part of being mature. It doesn't feel like mature behavior to me.
cmon jay,,give legs a breather,,hit the abs/upper body/walk for legs or treadmill/bike.don't give up yet.we need ur energy for us youngings lol,,,
when i was hurt coming here motivated me,,i was devastated at my condition,felt down ,my life wasn't going to end thats dramatic,but for someone who has trained 2 decades scott free for the most part and in the best shape of my 4th decade alive it was enough to ground me...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 07, 2013, 11:41:00 PM
cmon jay,,give legs a breather,,hit the abs/upper body/walk for legs or treadmill/bike.don't give up yet.we need ur energy for us youngings lol,,,
when i was hurt coming here motivated me,,i was devastated at my condition,felt down ,my life wasn't going to end thats dramatic,but for someone who has trained 2 decades scott free for the most part and in the best shape of my 4th decade alive it was enough to ground me...

Steve,

You guys and booty are the best! You really are my inspiration to keep on keeping on. Trust me, I am not done and I know all to well that I carry the flame for you into the future. The last thing I want to do is let you down. I am just keeping it real, I hope.

Damn it Steve you set the bar high. I am gonna have quads like yours before my time is over.

Here is the thing, I don't know how to cheat. This little diary for me is all about keeping it honest. I will never post up a routine I did not complete. I have let myself down for two days now, by letting life interfere with my goals of being the oldest  fucking guy in great shape I can be. When I was a kid these little setbacks meant nothing. These days when time seems short they mean allot.

As for my troublesome knee which is clearly sapping my energy, I alternated putting a heat pad on it and using the TENS. At this moment if feels pretty good....not those shots of pain coursing through my knee and down my leg that I was having earlier today when I saw myself as a total cripple.

I am taking this setback day by day. I will hit the gym tomorrow. I am not giving up. Thank you so much for your support. All of you are such an inspiration me, just how much you may never know. And then there is that promised photo of me at twelve weeks looking all that and more.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 08, 2013, 01:48:48 AM
Jay... you NEVER give up. I never think about my illness. even if i end up in later years shiting into a bag...i WILL still Train ..!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 08, 2013, 05:11:18 AM
Steve,

You guys and booty are the best! You really are my inspiration to keep on keeping on. Trust me, I am not done and I know all to well that I carry the flame for you into the future. The last thing I want to do is let you down. I am just keeping it real, I hope.

Damn it Steve you set the bar high. I am gonna have quads like yours before my time is over.

Here is the thing, I don't know how to cheat. This little diary for me is all about keeping it honest. I will never post up a routine I did not complete. I have let myself down for two days now, by letting life interfere with my goals of being the oldest  fucking guy in great shape I can be. When I was a kid these little setbacks meant nothing. These days when time seems short they mean allot.

As for my troublesome knee which is clearly sapping my energy, I alternated putting a heat pad on it and using the TENS. At this moment if feels pretty good....not those shots of pain coursing through my knee and down my leg that I was having earlier today when I saw myself as a total cripple.

I am taking this setback day by day. I will hit the gym tomorrow. I am not giving up. Thank you so much for your support. All of you are such an inspiration me, just how much you may never know. And then there is that promised photo of me at twelve weeks looking all that and more.



You might have to see an orthopedic surgeon that specializes only in knees. Don't see an ortho guy that says he's a jack of all trades regarding surgery. He just might say due to age, use and bad genes you need to have it replaced. If that's the case I bet in a few months after the operation you will be pain free. That's the worse case scenario. Maybe anti inflammatory drugs or a minor knee operation could do the trick. Either way if you're living in pain for a long time you have to do something. It will effect your mood and the quality of life. Don't let it get to a point where it's too painful to walk a block.

So worse case you might be able to only walk for legs. Walking is a underrated exercise. A runner can get a good workout just walking fast on an incline. A bright side is that you now can devote your time to upper body.

If after you get your knee fixed it works but you don't want to tempt faith with heavy weight you can just train with light weights. I really believe that you can train your legs with 100lbs in the squat and get a good workout if you rep out. That's what Steve Reeves did for legs when he was stationed over seas during World War II. Hell, Wilf Sylvester won a light weight Mr. Universe title only doing 400 reps with using no weight, only body weight free squats and using a leg extension/leg curl machine. In life you have to do what you have to do. Again with modern orthopedic science you don't have to live month in and month out with pain.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 08, 2013, 05:55:17 AM
You might have to see an orthopedic surgeon that specializes only in knees. Don't see an ortho guy that says he's a jack of all trades regarding surgery. He just might say due to age, use and bad genes you need to have it replaced. If that's the case I bet in a few months after the operation you will be pain free. That's the worse case scenario. Maybe anti inflammatory drugs or a minor knee operation could do the trick. Either way if you're living in pain for a long time you have to do something. It will effect your mood and the quality of life. Don't let it get to a point where it's too painful to walk a block.

So worse case you might be able to only walk for legs. Walking is a underrated exercise. A runner can get a good workout just walking fast on an incline. A bright side is that you now can devote your time to upper body.

If after you get your knee fixed it works but you don't want to tempt faith with heavy weight you can just train with light weights. I really believe that you can train your legs with 100lbs in the squat and get a good workout if you rep out. That's what Steve Reeves did for legs when he was stationed over seas during World War II. Hell, Wilf Sylvester won a light weight Mr. Universe title only doing 400 reps with using no weight, only body weight free squats and using a leg extension/leg curl machine. In life you have to do what you have to do. Again with modern orthopedic science you don't have to live month in and month out with pain.  
OUTSTANDING POST...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 08, 2013, 06:29:58 AM
This is Budo...
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Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 08, 2013, 10:34:29 AM
You might have to see an orthopedic surgeon that specializes only in knees. Don't see an ortho guy that says he's a jack of all trades regarding surgery. He just might say due to age, use and bad genes you need to have it replaced. If that's the case I bet in a few months after the operation you will be pain free. That's the worse case scenario. Maybe anti inflammatory drugs or a minor knee operation could do the trick. Either way if you're living in pain for a long time you have to do something. It will effect your mood and the quality of life. Don't let it get to a point where it's too painful to walk a block.

So worse case you might be able to only walk for legs. Walking is a underrated exercise. A runner can get a good workout just walking fast on an incline. A bright side is that you now can devote your time to upper body.

If after you get your knee fixed it works but you don't want to tempt faith with heavy weight you can just train with light weights. I really believe that you can train your legs with 100lbs in the squat and get a good workout if you rep out. That's what Steve Reeves did for legs when he was stationed over seas during World War II. Hell, Wilf Sylvester won a light weight Mr. Universe title only doing 400 reps with using no weight, only body weight free squats and using a leg extension/leg curl machine. In life you have to do what you have to do. Again with modern orthopedic science you don't have to live month in and month out with pain.  

All good advice. I have thought of all these possibilities. This knee thing has been going on for sometime now. It is time for me to stop dinking around and have the doctor look at it. I am not one to jump into surgery before trying other things if they're are any. I have no side to side slop or movement which is a good sign I am told.

As for picking a doctor, my wife has had both her knees replaced. The doctor she used for the second one was excellent. He is an orthopedist for several of the Blazers. And do those big guys have there share of knee problems!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 08, 2013, 10:38:53 AM
Hey Guys

Please excuse a newbie here but just wanted to say, I've been watching this thread for the last few months, and even though I'm probably a bit young (at 35 i hope lol...) - you guys really are an inspiration.

Jay - my heart goes out to your situation, Donny, as ex MoD myself, I really enjoy your posts too.

Everyone else who's contributed here - keep it up.

We all come on here for a laugh of course - via the G&O board, but this thread keeps things real.

Salute

NI Muscle

As you probably know, maturity is not necessarily about age; it is about one's state of mind as well. 35 is young physically, no doubt you are a mature person emotionally and intellectually.

Don't just watch, feel free to contribute as well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 08, 2013, 10:58:34 AM
well this is true Jay..itīs a state of mind. this is what makes you who you are...your character.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 08, 2013, 11:15:07 AM
leg day home pumped now to the park with kids :P,,,

leg press warmed up few sets,,then 5 plates x12/6 platesx10/7 plates x10/dropped back 5 x12 :-X,,,
hack squat 3 x10/4x10/5x10
walking lunges 90 lb bar on back x2
extension 220 x3 sets 12

hams sldl 135x12/185x10/225x10
leg curls 140x10/150x10/155x8

calves seated calf raise x3 set 10-12
standup calf raise x3 200 3 sets 12    pooped,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 08, 2013, 12:43:53 PM
leg day home pumped now to the park with kids :P,,,

leg press warmed up few sets,,then 5 plates x12/6 platesx10/7 plates x10/dropped back 5 x12 :-X,,,
hack squat 3 x10/4x10/5x10
walking lunges 90 lb bar on back x2
extension 220 x3 sets 12

hams sldl 135x12/185x10/225x10
leg curls 140x10/150x10/155x8

calves seated calf raise x3 set 10-12
standup calf raise x3 200 3 sets 12    pooped,,,,
Steve you are a top man..Family man
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 08, 2013, 03:18:02 PM
Steve you are a top man..Family man
thanx they had fun,we also walked the giant pond around probably mile or so..got cardio in  ;D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 08, 2013, 05:17:11 PM
Today was cardio day. I strained my calf running so I walked fast on the board walk looking at the beautiful ocean. It hurt to see all the runners go by. I wish I was one of them. So many hot looking women wearing bikinis or very skimpy clothing walking around. It made the walk very enjoyable.

 I saw one runner blow past me. I talked to him when he was doing his cool down walk. He said he did his last mile of a 5 mile run in 4:45. I believe him. Just incredible. We exchanged calf injury stories. He lifted my spirits by saying, "You look built. What do you do for a living?"

I entered a 5K road race scheduled for tomorrow months ago. I know I can't run on this calf but my nephew is driving 90 miles to run it with me. I think I'm just going to hobble through it and hope I don't completely fuck it up. I can run about a mile before the pain stops me. Maybe I can limp in the whole 5K. It just pisses me off that my 39 year old nephew is going to think I'm old and can't keep up. I just can stand injuries. They come so easily to me now.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 08, 2013, 06:41:06 PM
Okay folks, don't split a gut laughing, but I made it to the gym today and I worked of all things legs.

Saturday - quads and calves

Weight 208

Nautilus leg extensions: 6X20 - 8 @ 105 to 155 lbs.
Standing calf raises: 5X20 - 15 @ 180 to 260
Hammer leg press: 5X25 - 12 @ 200 to 600 added weight
Leg press calf raises: 5X20 - 12 @ 300 to 300
Hammer hack squat: 4X12 -8 @ machine weight to 180 (didn't go deep at 180 because of knee)
Seated Calf raises: 3X15 - 10 @ 70 to 135

Last Wednesday I worked back

Weight 206

Front lat pull-down: 6X15 - 6 @ 130 to 260
ISO row: 4X12 - 6 @ 120 to 150
Nebula low row: 3X12 - 8 @ 140 to 180
Reverse grip pull-down: 3X12 - 8 @ 130 to 160
Nautilus rowing back: 3X16 -10 @ 70 to 110

Light one leg, leg extensions: 4X20 - 12 @ 58

I owe you all and my wife a big thank you. You have been both sympathetic and encouraging these past couple of days. My wife said to me on my way out the door when I told her I was going to the gym, "good....have a good workout" now that's a supportive wife.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 08, 2013, 06:42:42 PM
cool jay,,,we love it,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 09, 2013, 03:00:16 AM
Today was cardio day. I strained my calf running so I walked fast on the board walk looking at the beautiful ocean. It hurt to see all the runners go by. I wish I was one of them. So many hot looking women wearing bikinis or very skimpy clothing walking around. It made the walk very enjoyable.

 I saw one runner blow past me. I talked to him when he was doing his cool down walk. He said he did his last mile of a 5 mile run in 4:45. I believe him. Just incredible. We exchanged calf injury stories. He lifted my spirits by saying, "You look built. What do you do for a living?"

I entered a 5K road race scheduled for tomorrow months ago. I know I can't run on this calf but my nephew is driving 90 miles to run it with me. I think I'm just going to hobble through it and hope I don't completely fuck it up. I can run about a mile before the pain stops me. Maybe I can limp in the whole 5K. It just pisses me off that my 39 year old nephew is going to think I'm old and can't keep up. I just can stand injuries. They come so easily to me now.
now that's really Americano language..."Walking on the board walk"....hi hi love it... reminds me of Billy Joel...sort of Music... WAKING ON THE BOARD WALK.....la la ....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 09, 2013, 03:19:15 AM
well no Training today but i will go for a short fast run tonight in the Woods... just me alone with my thoughts. There is a bench half way round and i will stop there and do some Roman chair old School sit ups...some Areas here have a so called "trim dig" some Basic exercises you can do.. shame i do not have that here. Remember when i was stationed in Herford Germany(about 2 hours from where i live now) we had great "Trim dig" Areas. was a hilly area and was grueling at times because we did Log runs up there. Combat PT.. was a real Bastard at times. The troop Staff Sgt was ex SAS Signals and was a character. I met a couple of SAS Signals on courses too and they were all very cool laid back guys. None of this drill and thrill bullshit. Good solid guys. The Troop Staffy took us for his Little runs... still sweat thinking about it....lol. I remember me and another guy getting into Trouble on a course aThend the OC who was a Major wanted to send me and my friend to 5 Airborne as a punishment. I was fit then and think i would have passed it and my friend went and passed. He said....my friend is OC there at 5 and i told him i have 2 Radio OPS for you. I said no i want to go back to Germany to an armoured Regiment. Anyway a run in the Woods is what i need ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 09, 2013, 04:48:56 AM
you know i like this Guy... he always makes sense in his Videos. I have wrote a few times to him and exchanged ideas...a good guy...however i like the Barbell squat..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 09, 2013, 07:47:42 AM
Looks good .. what do you think Steve? you are our forearm expert ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: NI_Muscle on June 09, 2013, 12:05:33 PM
Donny, did you ever serve at Verden?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 09, 2013, 12:10:04 PM
Donny, did you ever serve at Verden?
no in Hohne. 1 Div was later 1 UK Armd Div in Herford. I was in Hohne with 40 Field Regiment RA and was later in Herford then called 4 div.. later 1 UK armd Div. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 09, 2013, 12:31:17 PM
Looks good .. what do you think Steve? you are our forearm expert ...

good stuff,still love weight attached to rope ,roll the pipe up down,up,down rest again 3x total around so about 6 cycles..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 09, 2013, 01:07:51 PM
good stuff,still love weight attached to rope ,roll the pipe up down,up,down rest again 3x total around so about 6 cycles..
your lower arms are really spectaculare. I do not think anyone here can teach you anything.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 09, 2013, 02:39:50 PM
hope everyone is doing well.......


arms last eve:

rope pushdowns  5 sets

machine dips   4 sets

lying db extensions  3 sets


concentration curls   6 sets


elliptical 15 minutes.......treadmill 15 minutes.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 09, 2013, 02:41:21 PM
tonight will be quads.......then monday will be a day of rest!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 09, 2013, 03:43:20 PM
hope everyone is doing well.......


arms last eve:

rope pushdowns  5 sets

machine dips   4 sets

lying db extensions  3 sets


concentration curls   6 sets


elliptical 15 minutes.......treadmill 15 minutes.
lot of triceps in there,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 09, 2013, 05:02:16 PM
tonight will be quads.......then monday will be a day of rest!

Today was my day of rest....from the gym....and as if I needed it after taking both Thursday and Friday off. Rest for me means working in the yard. Also I did pick up friends returning from their trip to Italy at the airport and drove them home. While they were gone, they had new white oak floors installed in most of the house. When we walked in the door, the place reeked of floor finish. I invited them to spend the night at our house, but they declined. I think they are just happy to be home. Trips are great, but coming home is even better. 

My knee is killing me today....but fuck it! It has already demanded far too much of my attention. If I am going to grow wheels like Steve, I am just going to have to suck it up. Right now they just look....how do they say it? "skinny fat," meaning big but not much definition. When these puppies decide to inflate they are going to be amazing. Think of it they are 25" and growing. When they are 27" and cut, I am going to blow you, Steve, out of the ball park. And that folks is my fantasy for today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 09, 2013, 06:29:13 PM
Today was my day of rest....from the gym....and as if I needed it after taking both Thursday and Friday off. Rest for me means working in the yard. Also I did pick up friends returning from their trip to Italy at the airport and drove them home. While they were gone, they had new white oak floors installed in most of the house. When we walked in the door, the place reeked of floor finish. I invited them to spend the night at our house, but they declined. I think they are just happy to be home. Trips are great, but coming home is even better. 

My knee is killing me today....but fuck it! It has already demanded far too much of my attention. If I am going to grow wheels like Steve, I am just going to have to suck it up. Right now they just look....how do they say it? "skinny fat," meaning big but not much definition. When these puppies decide to inflate they are going to be amazing. Think of it they are 25" and growing. When they are 27" and cut, I am going to blow you, Steve, out of the ball park. And that folks is my fantasy for today.
i'm waiting ,,,patiently,, 8),,,my black calvins ready to be hiked up quad 4 quad ,,cut for cut,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 09, 2013, 08:58:20 PM
i'm waiting ,,,patiently,, 8),,,my black calvins ready to be hiked up quad 4 quad ,,cut for cut,,

Oops, you can get those monster wheels into Calvin Klein jeans? I am totally surprised. I would have though you'd need something a bit roomier. Oh that's right, I have given up tight jeans for comfortable fit Lucky Brand jeans and now I am spoiled....kidding a little bit because I have enough jeans to open a jean's shop. My goal is to look hot in Wranglers again. I have two pair that are stretch jeans which fit like a glove. I just don't like the body they fit over right now.

Back in the day, 501's that you'd shrink to fit in a hot tub of water were what was popular. We'd sit in a piping hot tub of water, turning it ink blue with the dye from the jeans. After we felt the jeans had  properly shrunk, we'd get on our horses and go for a ride until they were dry. Talk about fitting like a glove. I bet if you did this with a pair of shrink to fit 501's and you amazing quads, you could restart this fashion trend.

I am shooting for quads so huge that there are no jeans which they can fit into, as in cartoon or morphed looking quads.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 09, 2013, 09:02:16 PM
Oops, you can get those monster wheels into Calvin Klein jeans? I am totally surprised. I would have though you'd need something a bit roomier. Oh that's right, I have given up tight jeans for comfortable fit Lucky Brand jeans and now I am spoiled....kidding a little bit because I have enough jeans to open a jean's shop. My goal is to look hot in Wranglers again. I have two pair that are stretch jeans which fit like a glove. I just don't like the body they fit over right now.

Back in the day, 501's that you'd shrink to fit in a hot tub of water were what was popular. We'd sit in a piping hot tub of water, turning it ink blue with the dye from the jeans. After we felt the jeans had  properly shrunk, we'd get on our horses and go for a ride until they were dry. Talk about fitting like a glove. I bet if you did this with a pair of shrink to fit 501's and you amazing quads, you could restart this fashion trend.

I am shooting for quads so huge that there are no jeans which they can fit into.
underwear i was talking about lol,,3/4 briefs,,jeans oh hell no loose fit only,,try many in dressing room,track sweats are too tight ,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 09, 2013, 09:30:53 PM
underwear i was talking about lol,,3/4 briefs,,jeans oh hell no loose fit only,,try many in dressing room,track sweats are too tight ,,,


Okay I get it, braggart.  ;D.

Keep on egging me on. All my life, I have wanted giant quads....okay, maybe I wanted a few more giant parts that I didn't get either, but at least the quads I should be able to grow. Not so much for the other parts which aren't actually muscles. If the were we'd all have horse sized dicks.f
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 10, 2013, 05:05:47 AM
Okay I get it, braggart.  ;D.

Keep on egging me on. All my life, I have wanted giant quads....okay, maybe I wanted a few more giant parts that I didn't get either, but at least the quads I should be able to grow. Not so much for the other parts which aren't actually muscles. If the were we'd all have horse sized dicks.f
LOL....JAY'THE TERM UR A PIECE OF WORK'APPLIES ...GOOD MAN/GOOD SENSE HUMOR ,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 10, 2013, 06:23:38 AM
I have to train chest and arms today but my ass is dragging. Ran in local 5K road race yesterday. I made an observation about the women in the race. Yes, there are out of shape ones doing a charity 5K but so many looking outstanding. You can tell by just looking at someone how they will do in the race. I know it isn't bodybuilding but good runners are incredibly lean. At a glance you can see the work they put into body. I understand now when a runner looks at a perma bulker bodybuilder and says that guy is out shape when the perma bulker thinks he's buff. Nothing says in shape like being lean.

I have to get off my ass and change into my gym clothes, blast the radio and start warming up with the weights. Wish me luck cause after the race, beer and sitting in the sun by the pool all I want to do today is look at naked women on the computer. (just want to see if anyone is still reading)

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 10, 2013, 06:35:24 AM
I have to train chest and arms today but my ass is dragging. Ran in local 5K road race yesterday. I made an observation about the women in the race. Yes, there are out of shape ones doing a charity 5K but so many looking outstanding. You can tell by just looking at someone how they will do in the race. I know it isn't bodybuilding but good runners are incredibly lean. At a glance you can see the work they put into body. I understand now when a runner looks at a perma bulker bodybuilder and says that guy is out shape when the perma bulker thinks he's buff. Nothing says in shape like being lean.

I have to get off my ass and change into my gym clothes, blast the radio and start warming up with the weights. Wish me luck cause after the race, beer and sitting in the sun by the pool all I want to do today is look at naked women on the computer. (just want to see if anyone is still reading)


looking at naked women on the pc is also great... ;D we all do it....hi hi.... I have a Day off work today and will just Train chest at home. The weather is warm today and i am also a bit lazy...hmm...maybe after a bit of jump rope i will be more awake..so chest will be ...

Dumbbell flat press 4x10
Incline Dumbbell press 4x10
Parallel bar Dips 3-4 sets to failure

no flyes or anything... will do the Dips first.... because at the end i struggle a bit...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 10, 2013, 06:39:58 AM
...but your post reminds me of a guy at work...his wife caught him masterbating in front of his PC....it was not porn but Skype. some chick in the US. His wife threw him out....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 10, 2013, 06:43:16 AM
SUNDAY OFF BUT I HAVE SOME LIGHT DUMBELLS AND I IRON MY OWN WORK CLOTHES LOL  :P,SO IN BETWWEN EACH SHIRT AND PANT I DID SET FOR PUMP SPENT 1/2 HR  DO DELTS THURS SO I DID,,3 SIDE LATERALS 12 REPS X3,FRONT RAISE X12 X2,REAR BENT OVER RAISE X2 12 REPS JUST 20 LB DBELL FOR PUMP PURPOSE IT FEELS GOOD,,,DID SOME HAMMMER CURLS X3,AND 3 SETS PUSHUPS X20 ,,I LIKE EXTRA DELT WORK CAN NEVER HAVE ENOUGH SIDE DELTS...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 10, 2013, 06:51:32 AM
SUNDAY OFF BUT I HAVE SOME LIGHT DUMBELLS AND I IRON MY OWN WORK CLOTHES LOL  :P,SO IN BETWWEN EACH SHIRT AND PANT I DID SET FOR PUMP SPENT 1/2 HR  DO DELTS THURS SO I DID,,3 SIDE LATERALS 12 REPS X3,FRONT RAISE X12 X2,REAR BENT OVER RAISE X2 12 REPS JUST 20 LB DBELL FOR PUMP PURPOSE IT FEELS GOOD,,,DID SOME HAMMMER CURLS X3,AND 3 SETS PUSHUPS X20 ,,I LIKE EXTRA DELT WORK CAN NEVER HAVE ENOUGH SIDE DELTS...
you are hardcore Steve.... ;D itīs Monday here...15.51  our time
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 10, 2013, 07:25:45 AM
Quads last eve:


Squats  4 sets

Leg extensions  4 sets

Leg presses   4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 10, 2013, 07:30:45 AM
Quads last eve:


Squats  4 sets

Leg extensions  4 sets

Leg presses   4 sets

nice and simple....i like it  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 10, 2013, 07:34:01 AM
nice and simple....i like it  ;)
YEAH ,,,WHERES THE LUNGES LOL  :P...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 10, 2013, 09:12:32 AM
YEAH ,,,WHERES THE LUNGES LOL  :P...
What no lunges..... ;D ??
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 10, 2013, 09:24:32 AM
What no lunges..... ;D ??

LOL,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 10, 2013, 09:27:17 AM
lot of triceps in there,,,
i had to cut biceps short.....as i was running late and wanted to make sure to get cardio in......normally tris and bis both get at least 9 sets a piece.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 10, 2013, 09:31:03 AM
i had to cut biceps short.....as i was running late and wanted to make sure to get cardio in......normally tris and bis both get at least 9 sets a piece.
nice George,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 10, 2013, 10:31:09 AM
i had to cut biceps short.....as i was running late and wanted to make sure to get cardio in......normally tris and bis both get at least 9 sets a piece.
i understand ... yes i sometimes cut a few sets out now and again when i have not much time...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 10, 2013, 12:53:29 PM
I have to train chest and arms today but my ass is dragging. Ran in local 5K road race yesterday. I made an observation about the women in the race. Yes, there are out of shape ones doing a charity 5K but so many looking outstanding. You can tell by just looking at someone how they will do in the race. I know it isn't bodybuilding but good runners are incredibly lean. At a glance you can see the work they put into body. I understand now when a runner looks at a perma bulker bodybuilder and says that guy is out shape when the perma bulker thinks he's buff. Nothing says in shape like being lean.

I have to get off my ass and change into my gym clothes, blast the radio and start warming up with the weights. Wish me luck cause after the race, beer and sitting in the sun by the pool all I want to do today is look at naked women on the computer. (just want to see if anyone is still reading)



I saw this!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 10, 2013, 12:59:13 PM
underwear i was talking about lol,,3/4 briefs,,jeans oh hell no loose fit only,,try many in dressing room,track sweats are too tight ,,,


I see. Well, I hope you don't grow old waiting from our quad pose down.

Speaking of what to wear, after the raft of crap I got from some idiots in other threads on Getbig for posting up that photo of myself in orange Adidas, I was considering buying a pair of rainbow colored underwear to pose in for the next photo....just to give them something to talk about.  ;D -Yeah, my mind sometimes works in strange ways.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 10, 2013, 01:00:32 PM
YEAH ,,,WHERES THE LUNGES LOL  :P...

I need to start doing lungs again. My balance is really off lately, maybe doing lunges would fix this as well as tighten my butt.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 10, 2013, 01:01:15 PM
I see. Well, I hope you don't grow old waiting from our quad pose down.

Speaking of what to wear, after the raft of crap I got from some idiots in other threads on Getbig for posting up that photo of myself in orange Adidas, I was considering buying a pair of rainbow colored underwear to pose in for the next photo....just to give them something to talk about.  ;D -Yeah, my mind sometimes works in strange ways.
HAHAAAAHAAAA  I NEEDED A SMILE ;)AT WORK 2 DAY,,,,'SOME IDIOTS'THATS LOOSE ON GOSSIP BOARD,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 10, 2013, 07:04:46 PM
Monday - arms

Weight 208

Attitude - great

Changed things up a bit so pay attention.

Seated alternate dumbbell curls: 5X15-6 @ 25-45 lbs.
Triceps rope pushdowns: 5X15-8 @ 104-131
Nautilus preacher curls: 4X12-6 @ 45-75 (alternated close and wide grip)
Seated extension: 4X15-8 @ 60-90
Nautilus multi biceps: 3X14-8 @ 60-80
Nautilus triceps press downs/dips: 3X15-10 @ 125-145
Nautilus 4 way wrist machine 12X15-10 @ 50-70

Really felt like my arms were pumped, but an hour later not so much.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 10, 2013, 07:15:10 PM
Monday - arms

Weight 208

Attitude - great

Changed things up a bit so pay attention.

Seated alternate dumbbell curls: 5X15-6 @ 25-45 lbs.
Triceps rope pushdowns: 5X15-8 @ 104-131
Nautilus preacher curls: 4X12-6 @ 45-75 (alternated close and wide grip)
Seated extension: 4X15-8 @ 60-90
Nautilus multi biceps: 3X14-8 @ 60-80
Nautilus triceps press downs/dips: 3X15-10 @ 125-145
Nautilus 4 way wrist machine 12X15-10 @ 50-70

Really felt like my arms were pumped, but an hour later not so much.
8),,nice jay,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 10, 2013, 07:28:25 PM
chest nite i superset everything else never chest'donny'got me on a kick now to break things up ,chest is full steam size wise maybe better'lol'
strenght is still coming close but still pressing i fatigue no worries,,,

fdb press started 55x12,60x10,70x8,70x6 died dropped to 55 for few more :P..
super set next incline smith with inc flyes 10x10 flyes used 30,35,40 dbs,, pressed close to plate and 25 per,,3 sets
superset 2 hammer lower press with dips10 reps per,,x3 used couple 45's and change on press
finished x2 cable crossover x15 squeezed these..

tris
pushdowns x4 120 x12,130 x12,140 x10,150x10,,
seated extension machine x3 125x12,135x10,140x10
cable kickbacks 2x12
finished close grip smith x3 x10 
12 sets total,,

abs 2 exercises hanging leg raised and crunch machine 6 sets..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 10, 2013, 08:52:47 PM
chest nite i superset everything else never chest'donny'got me on a kick now to break things up ,chest is full steam size wise maybe better'lol'
strenght is still coming close but still pressing i fatigue no worries,,,

fdb press started 55x12,60x10,70x8,70x6 died dropped to 55 for few more :P..
super set next incline smith with inc flyes 10x10 flyes used 30,35,40 dbs,, pressed close to plate and 25 per,,3 sets
superset 2 hammer lower press with dips10 reps per,,x3 used couple 45's and change on press
finished x2 cable crossover x15 squeezed these..

tris
pushdowns x4 120 x12,130 x12,140 x10,150x10,,
seated extension machine x3 125x12,135x10,140x10
cable kickbacks 2x12
finished close grip smith x3 x10 
12 sets total,,

abs 2 exercises hanging leg raised and crunch machine 6 sets..


I'm exhausted just reading about your very ambitious workout. I'd be done by the time I finished chest. Good job!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 11, 2013, 01:44:37 AM
yes i agree Jay...no wonder his triceps are thick...i struggle on tricep Training after chest...this is why i do Dips first when iīm fresh...Bench press i can adjust to my Needs but Dips you gotta have strength to do them and more importantly...safely. My chest feels good today and just pressing and Dips was done. so chest and triceps were worked but not with so much as Steve does... :o so i will get my back in today at the Gym then iīm back there again to work tonight...i like alternating seated cable rows ( Close Grip) with my favourite Barbell rows... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 11, 2013, 04:55:18 AM
yes i agree Jay...no wonder his triceps are thick...i struggle on tricep Training after chest...this is why i do Dips first when iīm fresh...Bench press i can adjust to my Needs but Dips you gotta have strength to do them and more importantly...safely. My chest feels good today and just pressing and Dips was done. so chest and triceps were worked but not with so much as Steve does... :o so i will get my back in today at the Gym then iīm back there again to work tonight...i like alternating seated cable rows ( Close Grip) with my favourite Barbell rows... :)
THANKS FOR FEEDBACK...my triceps have plenty life after chest which one would think but i'm pretty focused and good energy for them always 8)...dips whick I know Donny loves too i'm back to sets 10 and straight up not bend sideways which I was doing from l/s so out of whack for a while,,,each workout I have been better and better .i'd say i'm 90pct strength,100pct size/condition that's all that matters to me ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 11, 2013, 07:13:39 AM
Man...i am tired today...still got to work later tonight.... life is so cruel ;D Sound like a real p*ssy here. better get myself together here....peace and love everyone  :-*
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 11, 2013, 07:59:41 AM
Man...i am tired today...still got to work later tonight.... life is so cruel ;D Sound like a real p*ssy here. better get myself together here....peace and love everyone  :-*
SAME HERE....UR FINE ,,,SOMEDAY'S UR 99PCT INSTEAD 100...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 11, 2013, 09:12:10 AM
THANKS FOR FEEDBACK...my triceps have plenty life after chest which one would think but i'm pretty focused and good energy for them always 8)...dips whick I know Donny loves too i'm back to sets 10 and straight up not bend sideways which I was doing from l/s so out of whack for a while,,,each workout I have been better and better .i'd say i'm 90pct strength,100pct size/condition that's all that matters to me ..

I know the feeling, although I can't blame work sapping my energy anymore since I don't officially work. My guess is that we just don't feel 100% everyday and if we did, we wouldn't know it because there would be nothing to compare it to.

I stayed up when I got up at 8:00 a.m. this morning. That's a plus since I often go back to bed for an hour or two which really shortens my day.

Yesterday, I finally made an appointment with my doctor to find out what's up with my knee. He better not try an blow it off like he did the last time I saw him. Something is screwed up and I want to know what it is. If he cannot figure it out, I see another doctor. I see him tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 11, 2013, 09:14:54 AM
i had to cut biceps short.....as i was running late and wanted to make sure to get cardio in......normally tris and bis both get at least 9 sets a piece.

You are a good man. I haven't done cardio for the past 6 weeks. I don't miss it because it bores me. Fortunately lifting raises my metabolism enough that I am slowly slimming down while not losing any weight. Still there are some areas that are hard to work and get the fat off of, like my lower back and my fat nose.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 11, 2013, 09:22:46 AM
GOOD POINTS JAY,,,right now i'm in rip roaring shape and that alone gives me plenty energy work 10hr days,gym and or days off training play and run with kids which I love to do,,,staying lean/ripped other than the physical appearance it mentally and overall well being of shape is less stress on the body inside and out,,,i eat a well balance relative speaking for most part and still do bbing principals like protein/carb/fat ratios in some order...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 11, 2013, 01:49:27 PM
Well I trained a student from Egypt tonight...was funny. He spoke only English. Was an ok guy...joined the gym
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 11, 2013, 03:01:50 PM
Well I trained a student from Egypt tonight...was funny. He spoke only English. Was an ok guy...joined the gym

Don't most people speak some English in Germany? Perhaps my view is warped since my daughter-in-law and grandchildren all speak perfect English despite that it is not their first language. My son is fluent in German. My daughter-in-law also speaks Russian and some French.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 12, 2013, 01:06:39 AM
Don't most people speak some English in Germany? Perhaps my view is warped since my daughter-in-law and grandchildren all speak perfect English despite that it is not their first language. My son is fluent in German. My daughter-in-law also speaks Russian and some French.
some do but "School English" and if you have an Accent they do not understand. If you speak real english with slang and not Oxford English ??? which no one does then they are lost. The Germans in the Gym who i work with could not understand him. They are used to my Scottish Accent.. ;D I also speak fluent German and am a Kaufmann here. My 2 sons speak English too because i made sure they learned it. The English they learn here in School is rubbish.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 12, 2013, 01:16:32 AM
yesterday i did back.....

wide grip pull downs behind neck 4x10
Close v-grip pull downs to chest 3x10
wide grip barbell rows 4x6-8
Close grip cable rows seated 4x6-8
Hyperextensions 3x15

abs.. crunches on a mat feet flat on floor 3xmax.

i was tired as i wrote yesterday and Deadlifts were just not in at the end. Mostly pulley work and it was OK. sometimes you got to go by your instinct and Body Feeling. I have not slept well the last few nights, maybe because itīs got warmer here.... i do not like the heat.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 12, 2013, 08:38:26 AM
Donny, I know how you feel that sometimes you have to go with instinct. I had 4 hard running sessions in a row with a injured calf that finally grabbed me by the balls and said stop this running.

 I went to the weight room today with a planned out routine but I was so tired I just winged it. I did what I felt like. I never count these type workouts in my workout journal. I have heard it said and it's true that your body records every rep, set and cardio session. No work out log needed.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 12, 2013, 12:28:03 PM
some do but "School English" and if you have an Accent they do not understand. If you speak real english with slang and not Oxford English ??? which no one does then they are lost. The Germans in the Gym who i work with could not understand him. They are used to my Scottish Accent.. ;D I also speak fluent German and am a Kaufmann here. My 2 sons speak English too because i made sure they learned it. The English they learn here in School is rubbish.

My daughter-in-law told me that I speak Oxford English back when she first met me 25 years ago. I took it as a compliment.

I don't know what being a Kaufmann means.

My grandchildren primarily speak German. They were taught English in school and some at home. There mother primarily speaks to them in German. My son speaks to his kids with a mixture of German and English. Other then some odd sentence structure and the occasional mispronouncing of a word, their English is passible.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 12, 2013, 12:41:40 PM
Tuesday - hams

Weight 208

Note: I didn't work calves because I was short on time.

Lying leg curls, 4X14-8 @ 57-87 Lbs.
Seated leg curls, 4X15-8 @ 80-110
Reverse hack squats, 4X12-8 @ 90-360 added weight
Alternating machine kickbacks, 3X15-10 @ 45-125 each leg

I was in and out of the gym in less than an hour.

Today I saw the doctor about my knee. He suggested I get an MRI to see what exactly is going on with it. He noted that I cannot completely lock my right knee out. It is his suspicion that this is a problem with my meniscus. Generally this means surgery to repair it. Oh joy!  ::) I told him I was still working out with weights and that doing so actually relieved the pain momentarily. He didn't respond....I suspect he thinks I am crazy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 12, 2013, 07:12:55 PM
back
front pulldown with small bar side handle type,,150x10,165x10,180x8,195x8 2 forced
tbar row front loaded 2 plates x10,3 plates x10/4 plates x7 :P
low cable row 180 x10,187.5 x10,200 x10
hammer front pulldown 2 plates x10,2 plates plus 10 per side 2x 8
single arm db row 2x 80x10,90x10

lower back hypers 45 plate x3x12

bis
sitdown bi curl stack type 85x12,110x12,125x10,140x10
seated inc db curl30x10,35x10,35 x10
finished pass the bar 70 lb premade curl bar set of 10 reps stand in front each other' i go pass to partner' and back total 3x

abs 4x30 lying crunches legs elevated on bench..


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 13, 2013, 11:33:19 AM
shoulders and abs...

Smith machine front press 4x10 Superset with
seated Dumbbell side raises 4x12
Front Dumbbell raises 4x12 Superset with
Bent over rear delt laterals 4x12

Dumbbell shrugs 4x15

Flat bench leg raises 3x50 and cardio 40 mins run.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 13, 2013, 12:48:40 PM
tris and bis.......


rope pushdowns   4 sets

machine dips   4 sets

overhead cable extensions  2 sets


alternate db curls   5 sets

precor machine curls  4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 13, 2013, 02:28:40 PM
I did my warm ups for power cleans and jerks. 1x3 155, 1 x 3 160, 1 x3 165.  Then I loaded the bar for my first set and said to myself I'm not feeling it and left the gym. Drove to the liquor store and bought some beer.  Sometimes you have to know when rest is a better option.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 13, 2013, 05:57:02 PM
Wednesday - back:

Weight 208

Hammer lat pulldowns, 6X15-8 @ 140-260 lbs.
Hammer rows, 4X12-6 @ 120-150
Nebula low rows, 3X12-8 @ 140-200
Reverse grip pulldowns, 3X12-8 @ 130-160
Nautilus front pulldowns, 3X15-10 @ 104-131
Nautilus rowing back, 3X16-12 @ 70-110

Back felt pretty good.

Thursday - shoulders and abs:

Weight 209

Hammer seated front press, 5X15-8 @ 90 to 170 lbs.
Standing dumbbell side laterals, 5X15-8 @ 10-17.5 ea side
Bodymasters rear delts, 4X15-8 @ 50-80
ISO shrugs, 4X15-8 @ 90-230
Cable upright rows, 3X12 @ 77-91
Nautilus crunches, 2X25 @ 80-90
Nautilus back raises, 2X25 @ 80-90

Didn't do leg raises or Nautilus rotary torso because I pooped out.

-MRI went well on my knee. It took about an hour. I have a copy of the pictures which mean nothing to me, since I am not experienced at reading an MRI. If what I am looking at is what I think I am looking at, there does appear to be a pretty nice sized tear on one side of the knee. I assume that is the meniscus. If I am right, it is no wonder it is such a pain!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 13, 2013, 05:58:40 PM
I did my warm ups for power cleans and jerks. 1x3 155, 1 x 3 160, 1 x3 165.  Then I loaded the bar for my first set and said to myself I'm not feeling it and left the gym. Drove to the liquor store and bought some beer.  Sometimes you have to know when rest is a better option.

I enjoy your honesty. You are absolutely right. There are times.... The good thing is you went to the gym and gave it a shot. Sometimes, that works and sometimes not.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 13, 2013, 06:42:06 PM
delts
did a nice pre-exhaust start
side laterals db 20x20,25x20,25x20,30x15
smith front press was pumped already did 3 set 8-10
cable rear delt x3
2x cable upright rows
2x front raise underhand grip using curl bar

shrugs on chest machine 2x20,3x20,4x18,4.5 x15

forearms cable reverse curl behind back x2,,,roll weighted rope up,down,3 times /3 sets

calves calf raise x4 toe straight and turned in 12 rep sets 200/220 on stack..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 14, 2013, 11:10:24 AM
I did my warm ups for power cleans and jerks. 1x3 155, 1 x 3 160, 1 x3 165.  Then I loaded the bar for my first set and said to myself I'm not feeling it and left the gym. Drove to the liquor store and bought some beer.  Sometimes you have to know when rest is a better option.
made me smile.... ;D you are a good down to earth guy...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 14, 2013, 03:18:09 PM
tonight will be chest and calves:


incline smith presses  5 sets


incline flyes    5 sets



seated calf raises   5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 14, 2013, 03:29:17 PM
tonight will be chest and calves:


incline smith presses  5 sets


incline flyes    5 sets



seated calf raises   5 sets
you got your own style going like Steve... individuel and instinctive .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 14, 2013, 03:58:40 PM
you got your own style going like Steve... individuel and instinctive .
After 20 years in the game that is just the way it works........hope you had a good week my friend!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 14, 2013, 04:06:44 PM
After 20 years in the game that is just the way it works........hope you had a good week my friend!
yes it goes without saying experience is key... guys like you know the A to Z of Bodybuilding and what is correct and Bull. I never get any Young Guys coming in to be trained with cocky attitudes now. Most are happy to learn the correct way to Train without injuries.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 14, 2013, 06:47:42 PM
I heard back from my doctor today regarding the MRI on my knee. It is a meniscal tear. The next step is to schedule an appointment with an orthopedic doctor to discuss my options (probably orthoscopic surgery).  My doctor confirmed that what I saw in the MRI was the tear. It looks pretty awesome. No wonder it hurts.

I worked chest today. I will post up my routine after working out tomorrow, so I can do two at a time. -Seems easier. I feel like I had a good workout though.

-Saw my urologist this morning. My labs are good. The PSA remains at .02 and the total testosterone has doubled to 401. I talked my doctor into allowing me to increase the dose from 200 mg every other week to 300 mg every other week. Many doctors believe your testosterone levels are fine if they are in a good range for your age. Since the older one get the lower their testosterone usually goes, this isn't a great gauge for someone who is trying to maintain the physique of a much younger person. When one is at their peak, their testosterone is usually around 1,000. I am shooting for something near this. Of course I will monitor myself for sides. My liver is solid and I have never experienced any problem with breast tissue in the past. I think my body is crying out for more test.  ;D I am sure you all know folks who abuse steroids including testosterone. Trust me, I am nowhere near the doses these folks invent for themselves. Plus, my doctor is legit and he wouldn't allow me to go overboard on his watch.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 14, 2013, 07:05:32 PM
I heard back from my doctor today regarding the MRI on my knee. It is a meniscal tear. The next step is to schedule an appointment with an orthopedic doctor to discuss my options (probably orthoscopic surgery).  My doctor confirmed that what I saw in the MRI was the tear. It looks pretty awesome. No wonder it hurts.

I worked chest today. I will post up my routine after working out tomorrow, so I can do two at a time. -Seems easier. I feel like I had a good workout though.

-Saw my urologist this morning. My labs are good. The PSA remains at .02 and the total testosterone has doubled to 401. I talked my doctor into allowing me to increase the dose from 200 mg every other week to 300 mg every other week. Many doctors believe your testosterone levels are fine if they are in a good range for your age. Since the older one get the lower their testosterone usually goes, this isn't a great gauge for someone who is trying to maintain the physique of a much younger person. When one is at their peak, their testosterone is usually around 1,000. I am shooting for something near this. Of course I will monitor myself for sides. My liver is solid and I have never experienced any problem with breast tissue in the past. I think my body is crying out for more test.  ;D I am sure you all know folks who abuse steroids including testosterone. Trust me, I am nowhere near the doses these folks invent for themselves. Plus, my doctor is legit and he wouldn't allow me to go overboard on his watch.
look after yourself Jay and i think an op is the last Option. If they do a small op like key hole surgery i had some years ago it heals up quick....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 14, 2013, 07:12:18 PM
look after yourself Jay and i think an op is the last Option. If they do a small op like key hole surgery i had some years ago it heals up quick....

What I need to know is, how long before I can get back to heavy leg work? Steve and I are engaged in a contest and he's ahead right now and showing me no mercy. I cannot afford to lose ground here or I will never beat out his wheels!  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 14, 2013, 07:17:32 PM
What I need to know is, how long before I can get back to heavy leg work? Steve and I are engaged in a contest and he's ahead right now and showing me no mercy. I cannot afford to lose ground here or I will never beat out his wheels!  ;D
can't let up yet jay,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 14, 2013, 10:21:25 PM
can't let up yet jay,,,,

My response was unkind. I'll keep it to myself.  ;D

Shucks, those wheels are looking great.

Just you wait, I am going to post a photo of my torn meniscus which will blow you out of the water.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 15, 2013, 03:26:06 AM
What I need to know is, how long before I can get back to heavy leg work? Steve and I are engaged in a contest and he's ahead right now and showing me no mercy. I cannot afford to lose ground here or I will never beat out his wheels!  ;D
well i had an op in 1999 because of this below. after surgery i did physio but to be honest Jay...go bike riding every day at least 30 mins. I was very active in Wado Ryu Karate then and had to stop it for a while. The Professor in the Hospital told me have you a bike ? i said yes...he said well then...cycle every day and slowly integrate some hills in there too. He was an old School sort of guy and was correct. I liked his straight talking way. It took about 6 weeks to really get a bit better but you can start leg press after 2-3 weeks. As for Karate....he told me it will take about 8 months too heal 100%..i tried to do Karate after 3 months and it hurt...well i guess thatīs why he was a Professor... ;D. Get on the leg press and Abduction/adduction machines...leg curls and extensions i would not do. Then again maybe you are diffrent to me. My cartilage was damaged. the vastis medialis and lateralis can be safer trained after an op.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chondromalacia_patellae
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 15, 2013, 08:47:14 AM
My response was unkind. I'll keep it to myself.  ;D

Shucks, those wheels are looking great.

Just you wait, I am going to post a photo of my torn meniscus which will blow you out of the water.
FIRST LINE ???,,UNKIND,REFERRING TO WHAT PRAYTELL...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 15, 2013, 10:28:28 AM
hope everyone is having an enjoyable weekend!


I am training back this eve........one arm rows   4 sets........Techno Gym machine pulldowns (close grip) 3 sets.........stiff arm pulldowns (rope) 3 sets


chest supported t bar rows  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 15, 2013, 10:31:39 AM
so advice please mature thread People.... was thinking of getting a college style ring from herff Jones...10kt a british army ring. any of you experience from them ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 15, 2013, 10:35:03 AM
hope everyone is having an enjoyable weekend!


I am training back this eve........one arm rows   4 sets........Techno Gym machine pulldowns (close grip) 3 sets.........stiff arm pulldowns (rope) 3 sets


chest supported t bar rows  3 sets
the stiff arm pull downs with rope i like.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 15, 2013, 11:06:19 AM
the stiff arm pull downs with rope i like.
I DO THOSE...NICE PUMP FINISH,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 15, 2013, 11:13:22 AM
I DO THOSE...NICE PUMP FINISH,,
really? i got to try them ...if you Boys do them then i can learn here too  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 15, 2013, 01:37:51 PM
FIRST LINE ???,,UNKIND,REFERRING TO WHAT PRAYTELL...

Steve,

That was a joke. Here's the thing, I posted that having a torn meniscus my leg routine could be compromised for awhile. Your response was to post a photo of your amazing wheels.

If you thought I meant to criticize your build, that wasn't it at all. I was thinking more along the lines of my being cynical in response to your photo post.

Don't be too sensitive....like I am sometimes.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 15, 2013, 01:40:15 PM
Steve,

That was a joke. Here's the thing, I posted that having a torn meniscus my leg routine could be compromised for awhile. Your response was to post a photo of your amazing wheels.

If you thought I meant to criticize your build, that wasn't it at all. I was thinking more along the lines of my being cynical in response to your photo post.

Don't be too sensitive....like I am sometimes.
you Men..... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 15, 2013, 03:28:55 PM
Steve,

That was a joke. Here's the thing, I posted that having a torn meniscus my leg routine could be compromised for awhile. Your response was to post a photo of your amazing wheels.

If you thought I meant to criticize your build, that wasn't it at all. I was thinking more along the lines of my being cynical in response to your photo post.

Don't be too sensitive....like I am sometimes.
no i though it was related to uhmmm,,ya nknow underwear thing,,,,jay ur like my pop much respect i love my dad,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 15, 2013, 03:36:25 PM
off today,,,worked 8 hrs at my job ,then came home shirt off ,,mowed lawn,,,i need to go back in time to old school thread they have 'stuntmovie'thread,,thats the build's i like to fit in with,,right donny :)best light i have for pics,,clear,,10 lbs water off a bit tighter,i would be ready stage shape ,,190lbs right now,,,drug free not that it matters,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 15, 2013, 03:38:36 PM
off today,,,worked 8 hrs at my job ,then came home shirt off ,,mowed lawn,,,i need to back in time to old school thread they have 'stuntmovie'thread,,thats the build's i like to fit in with,,right donny :)
F ;Dck me.....excellent
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 15, 2013, 03:41:03 PM
you really have it Steve...solid and ripped...ALL YEAR ROUND.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 16, 2013, 06:25:49 AM
well itīs a beautiful Day here...i think i will go for a run in the Woods...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 16, 2013, 02:56:06 PM
Happy Father's Day to all you guys.

Workout update:

Friday - Chest:

Weight - 211 (not sure what happened here).

ISO lateral flat bench presses, 5X15-5 @ 90-160 lbs.
Hammer incline bench presses, 4X12-6 @ 90-140
Hammer wide decline presses, 4X15-8 @ 90-180
Nautilus weight assisted dips, 3X12-8 @ 131-171
Nautilus pec deck flies, 3X15-8 @ 80-120
Nautilus pullovers 3X15-10 @ 100-140
Body Masters flies, 3X15-12 @ 80

My chest is still feeling it today, two days later.

Saturday - Quads and Calves

Weight - 209

Leg extension, 2X20-8 @ 125-155
Standing calf raises, 5X20-16 @ 180-260
Leg press 6X20-10 @ 200-650 added weight
Leg press calf raises, 5X20 10 @ 200-300
Machine hack squats 4X12-8 @ 0-180 added weight
Seated calf raises, 3X18-10 @ 70-125
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 16, 2013, 06:14:47 PM
happy fathers day again to all had great day i'll get to eating part in minute,,early a.m leg workout :P...

here goes
leg press warmed up couple plates 2x then,,,5 plates x12/6plates x12.7 plates x10,7 plates x8-10 somewhere there lol;;;pumped
squat feet slight foot apart but turned toes/foot out slight 225x12,275 x12,315 x12
lunges 45 plate per hand up flight stairs skipping 1 step for longer lunge then down then back up did this 2x around...
extension 220x12,235 x12,250x12 :o...

hams x2 lying extension 145x12/160x10
seated extension x2 180x10/195 x10

calves leg press x3/standing calf raise x2,,10/15 rep sets depending on weight..

brunch had dad and his wife over,,,kids made me cards and gave me homeade presents from there school for fathers day :D..wife gave good skin care stuff 'clinique 'brand :),,,

meal was this ..homeade frittata with asparugus/tomatoes/mozzarella cheese...homeade strawberry muffins from scratch,cubed potatoes ,rye/wheat toast/fresh fruit/cofee...my dad loved it too,,,,,gave dad gifts and he went off,,,

spent day outside with my girls they played in nice sized kiddie pool,one passed out early me and my neibor he's 70 we had some wine and hung in my backyard and bull shitted for while,,my wife had to work overnight shift at hospital,,,great fathers day,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 17, 2013, 01:49:24 AM
was not Fathers Day here...we had it all ready but sounds like you guys had fun...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 17, 2013, 10:10:06 AM
so chest today...

supersets...
flat DB flyes 3x12 with
flat Dumbbell  Bench press 3x10
incline DB Flyes 3x12 with
Incline DB press 3x10

i finished off with push ups between 2 flat benches then 3x max crunches using the Ab Roller  ;D it works ok..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 17, 2013, 10:42:50 AM
so chest today...

supersets...
flat DB flyes 3x12 with
flat Dumbbell  Bench press 3x10
incline DB Flyes 3x12 with
Incline DB press 3x10

i finished off with push ups between 2 flat benches then 3x max crunches using the Ab Roller  ;D it works ok..
8)..ab roller :P,,,kidding ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 17, 2013, 11:03:55 AM
8)..ab roller :P,,,kidding ;D
  ;D it actually gives not a bad ab workout
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 17, 2013, 11:18:05 AM
  ;D it actually gives not a bad ab workout
I USE THE AB MACHINE WITH STACK AT GYM,SAME THING BUT TOP TO BOTTOM AND SEATED...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 17, 2013, 06:52:43 PM
happy fathers day again to all had great day i'll get to eating part in minute,,early a.m leg workout :P...

here goes
leg press warmed up couple plates 2x then,,,5 plates x12/6plates x12.7 plates x10,7 plates x8-10 somewhere there lol;;;pumped
squat feet slight foot apart but turned toes/foot out slight 225x12,275 x12,315 x12
lunges 45 plate per hand up flight stairs skipping 1 step for longer lunge then down then back up did this 2x around...
extension 220x12,235 x12,250x12 :o...

hams x2 lying extension 145x12/160x10
seated extension x2 180x10/195 x10

calves leg press x3/standing calf raise x2,,10/15 rep sets depending on weight..

brunch had dad and his wife over,,,kids made me cards and gave me homeade presents from there school for fathers day :D..wife gave good skin care stuff 'clinique 'brand :),,,

meal was this ..homeade frittata with asparugus/tomatoes/mozzarella cheese...homeade strawberry muffins from scratch,cubed potatoes ,rye/wheat toast/fresh fruit/cofee...my dad loved it too,,,,,gave dad gifts and he went off,,,

spent day outside with my girls they played in nice sized kiddie pool,one passed out early me and my neibor he's 70 we had some wine and hung in my backyard and bull shitted for while,,my wife had to work overnight shift at hospital,,,great fathers day,,,,

Seems like you had quite the excellent father's day.

My kids are grown, so no kids around. -Skyped with our son and his family for about an hour or so....gotta love Skype. It is almost as if we were all together....almost. The kitchen counter is lined with greeting cards from my kids and grandkids. The best ever card was from my wife to the father of her children. Our daughter her husband, their son and their two dogs arrived late last night. The didn't drive 2,000 miles for father's day though. My son-in-law's grandmother died and they came up for the funeral, which is next Friday.

My breakfast can't compare to yours. My wife and I went out for breakfast. -Nothing fancy per my request. I ordered chicken fried steak with basted eggs, hash-browns and sour dough toast. I need to start ordering off the senior menu because I could not finish all of my breakfast.

Dinner was a different story. My wife fixed slow baked spare ribs which I finished on the barbeque. Accompanying this we had potato salad, coleslaw and steamed broccoli. I drank too much of a fifth of scotch, but enjoyed ever sip of it.

I gather your kids are still very young. I remember how much fun we all had when our two kids were still kids and not responsible adults. But time marches on. Even our grandchildren are becoming adults. I could be around for great-grandchildren. Our oldest grandchild is 23 years old and living in an apartment with her boy friend down the street from he parent's house (my son was devastated when she moved out). Our two youngest grandchildren are 16 years old.
 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 17, 2013, 06:57:11 PM
so chest today...

supersets...
flat DB flyes 3x12 with
flat Dumbbell  Bench press 3x10
incline DB Flyes 3x12 with
Incline DB press 3x10

i finished off with push ups between 2 flat benches then 3x max crunches using the Ab Roller  ;D it works ok..

Years ago, I was doing pushups using three chairs. I overextended my left wrist or something and my hand was in real pain. The next day it blew up and looked more like a cows udder than a hand. The doctor gave me a shot in the hand which took down the inflammation. After the swelling went down, my had looked like a skeleton's hand for about a week. I think it go so hot that it burned off all the fat.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 17, 2013, 07:49:41 PM
I'm looking for the best way to combine lifting and running. Here are my thoughts on it.

Any of guys ever train Yates style of one work set an exercise? I had mixed results with it. Generally positive results. The reason why I ask is I'm getting slowly, injuries permitting, to get back into road races like 5K's or even longer. Needless to say long weight work outs combined with training for a races is to much. To much in terms of time and recovery. Anyone who has ever ran a hard 5 miles knows that leg training the day after is a huge challenge.

When I do a four way split training each body part once every 6 to 7 days with 40 to 60 minute work outs it leave time for running. About 5 years ago or so I made a good attempt to combine hard regular running with it. It was brutal but in 4 weeks a made really good gains. Naturally warming up and hitting that one set to failure is exhausting.

I know for most on this board lifting is the priority and any cardio is a secondary consideration for fat loss. I shared that for many years. Now maybe I'm getting nostalgic for my old high school and college track days.  I run like crap now in my mid 50's. I use to be a sprinter but now you could time me in the 400 with an hour glass I'm so slow.  I just want to run a 5K in a decent time for a guy my age with the weight I'm carrying. I'm 5'8" 186lbs. In college I was the same height but 166lbs with a very lean sprinter body
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 17, 2013, 07:56:56 PM
Monday - arms

Weight 209

A little hung over

Seated alternate dumbbell curls: 5X15-6 @ 25-45 lbs.
Triceps press-downs: 6X15-6 @ 104-172
Nautilus preacher curls: 4X12-6 @ 50-80
Flex triceps machine: 4X15-8 @ 60-90
Nautilus multi biceps: 3X15-10 @ 60-80
Nautilus triceps press downs/dips: 3X15-10 @ 126-146
Nautilus 4 way wrist machine 12X15 @ 50-80
Cable curls 3X15-12 @ 23-50 each side

Really felt like my arms were pumped, but an hour later not so much.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 17, 2013, 08:17:03 PM
I'm looking for the best way to combine lifting and running. Here are my thoughts on it.

Any of guys ever train Yates style of one work set an exercise? I had mixed results with it. Generally positive results. The reason why I ask is I'm getting slowly, injuries permitting, to get back into road races like 5K's or even longer. Needless to say long weight work outs combined with training for a races is to much. To much in terms of time and recovery. Anyone who has ever ran a hard 5 miles knows that leg training the day after is a huge challenge.

When I do a four way split training each body part once every 6 to 7 days with 40 to 60 minute work outs it leave time for running. About 5 years ago or so I made a good attempt to combine hard regular running with it. It was brutal but in 4 weeks a made really good gains. Naturally warming up and hitting that one set to failure is exhausting.

I know for most on this board lifting is the priority and any cardio is a secondary consideration for fat loss. I shared that for many years. Now maybe I'm getting nostalgic for my old high school and college track days.  I run like crap now in my mid 50's. I use to be a sprinter but now you could time me in the 400 with an hour glass I'm so slow.  I just want to run a 5K in a decent time for a guy my age with the weight I'm carrying. I'm 5'8" 186lbs. In college I was the same height but 166lbs with a very lean sprinter body

More than anything, one should enjoy what they do to stay fit and staying/getting fit should be their main goal. There are many good ways to do this. If you enjoy running and want to get back into it, you should go for it. Nothing you do has to be forever. Later on, you might want to emphasize weight training, right now you want to recapture you youthful endeavor of being a runner.

I used to run a lot many years ago. Because I get bored easily, I'd run on the streets rather then on a track. There is just more to look at. When I was a kid, I think I was pretty fast. As an adult not so much. Also, I have no interest in competition so entering a race wasn't my thing.

One of the reasons, I don't run today is because of my knee. It has given me problems for many years. I often aggravated it when running. I also tend to be a shallow breather. When I was a kid and as an adult I have had bronchial pneumonia several times which I suspect has reduced my lung capacity.

Not to discourage you in anyway, but running is a fairly high impact sport. Don't expect to be the kid you once were. Our bodies change overtime. Like pointed out you are now hauling around 20 more pounds then you did as a kid. This is bound to make some difference.

I makes perfect sense to dial back the weight training if you want to get serious about running. Of course running isn't likely to do much for your upper body. Of course the ideal physique for a runner is to be all legs and not have a bunch of upper body bulk to haul around.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 17, 2013, 08:21:05 PM
chest day sticking with same formula last few wks like it great pump,,,

fdb press still climbing back here forgot how long ago i got hurt/healed phew...well 50x12,60x12,65x10,70x10 so improving still goal is 80/85 repping 8-10 so close..
then supersets inc press with db flyes used 30/35 on flyes and pressed 135/185 10 reps per 3x around
hammer mid press seated 2 plates x2x10 reps with dips x10 last set did 2 plates and a 10 perside x10 with10 rep dips so 3x around
finished 2x 15 cable crossovers..

tris
over head rope cable extensions 90/100/110/120 10-12 perset
pushdowns x3 130/150/150
dip machine x2
close grip bench x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 18, 2013, 01:53:55 AM
I must admit i run and do bike intervals(in the Gym) just to Keep my heart in shape. I think a 3 Day split is good , however you split it is up to you. I also think 2-3 sets per exercise is better than going to failure on 1 set. If you tax your nervous System with hard running, how Long can you also do a Yates style to failure Training? mentally tough and i think it will tire you quicker than say 2 moderate sets just short of failure. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 18, 2013, 01:59:07 AM
I am going soon for a run on the streets here... just too warm in the Gym. you know what , i trained this real know it all yesterday.. he asked one question after another. i eventually said, listen you've read some mags or Internet just listen and learn...not talking just Train !!...  ;D He was a guy who is a beginner with too much BS in his head... Keep it simple in the beginning  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 18, 2013, 02:08:33 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 18, 2013, 04:10:07 AM
I am going soon for a run on the streets here... just too warm in the Gym. you know what , i trained this real know it all yesterday.. he asked one question after another. i eventually said, listen you've read some mags or Internet just listen and learn...not talking just Train !!...  ;D He was a guy who is a beginner with too much BS in his head... Keep it simple in the beginning  ;)

True, lifting weights isn't rocket science despite what some lead you to believe. Jeff Everson once wrote an article titled, "When pigs fly you don't have to be a scientist to be a bodybuider." He went on to say in effect that some of the most successful bodybuilders weren't to bright and they couldn't tell you the body part or routine they used the day before. He also pointed out how some of the most scientific bodybuilders weren't that good at bodybuilding. Of course genetics, drugs, and work ethic are paramount.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 18, 2013, 04:18:16 AM
True lifting weights isn't rocket science despite what some lead you to believe. Jeff Everson once wrote an article titled, "When pigs fly you don't have to be a scientist to be a bodybuider." He went on to say in effect that some of the most successful bodybuilders weren't to bright and they couldn't tell you the body part or routine they used the day before. He also pointed out how some of the most scientific bodybuilders weren't that good at bodybuilding. Of course genetics, drugs, and work ethic are paramount.
I was just running...i am fried... ;D itīs hot here ... let myself cool down A bit before i shower. Donīt know how some of you Americanos put up with the heat....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 18, 2013, 04:29:56 AM
I was just running...i am fried... ;D itīs hot here ... let myself cool down A bit before i shower. Donīt know how some of you Americanos put up with the heat....
Where are you?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 18, 2013, 05:49:59 AM
Where are you?
Germany but you know iīm a Scotsman....hate the heat... :(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2013, 06:10:29 AM
True lifting weights isn't rocket science despite what some lead you to believe. Jeff Everson once wrote an article titled, "When pigs fly you don't have to be a scientist to be a bodybuider." He went on to say in effect that some of the most successful bodybuilders weren't to bright and they couldn't tell you the body part or routine they used the day before. He also pointed out how some of the most scientific bodybuilders weren't that good at bodybuilding. Of course genetics, drugs, and work ethic are paramount.
I like this^^^^^
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 18, 2013, 07:20:37 AM
Taking a couple of weeks off of lifting till my body heals. I have a bad shoulder and nursing a strained calf. I'm able to walk though. I did this on a treadmill today.

I walked at 3.8 MPH. Each lap 400 meters or .25 mile I raised the grade/incline. So it looked like this: One lap at zero incline. Second at 1% incline. Third at 2% incline and so on. I went up a grade each lap until I did a lap at 15% incline. I rewarded myself with a final lap at zero grade. Took over a hour. Calf is sore but stretched out. I'm a pool of sweat. Going to do some free hand single leg calf raises off a step. Tomorrow if the calf isn't too painful I'm going to try to run a super slow 4 mile. I might be crazy not to rest it and let it heal but it's frustrating to do nothing.  Hopefully in another week or two I'll kick in the weights again. Damn body is so fragile.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 18, 2013, 07:24:02 AM
I was just running...i am fried... ;D itīs hot here ... let myself cool down A bit before i shower. Donīt know how some of you Americanos put up with the heat....
Going to Myrtle Beach South Carolina USA in about a week. I hear it's 85 with humidity and the ocean is about 80 degrees. I hope my leg is healthy cause I love running on the beach checking out the hotties in their bikinis.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2013, 08:03:49 AM
Going to Myrtle Beach South Carolina USA in about a week. I hear it's 85 with humidity and the ocean is about 80 degrees. I hope my leg is healthy cause I love running on the beach checking out the hotties in their bikinis.
HOW OLD ARE U ,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 18, 2013, 10:31:45 AM
54

I look a lot younger. I'd post a picture today even though I'm out of shape but the kids here will photo shop me with a donkey or something.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2013, 11:42:06 AM
54

I look a lot younger. I'd post a picture today even though I'm out of shape but the kids here will photo shop me with a donkey or something.
u post it here nobody comes here with malice,,i have over 100 pics on 2 thread of my own and I post pics here ,,I have not been phtoshopped,,,here ,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 18, 2013, 07:03:18 PM
Tuesday - hams and calves

Weight 209

Forgot to bring the written routine with me - had to wing it.

Lying leg curls, 4X15-8 @ 60-90 lbs.
Standing calf raises, 5X15 @ 200-300
Seated leg curls, 4X15-10 @70-100
Leg press calf raises, 4X15-10 @ 235-310
Reverse hack squats, 4X20-10 @ 90-360
Seated calf raises, 3X15-8 @ 90-135
Hip abduction, 3X20-15 @ 90-110
Hip adduction, 3X20-15 @ 110-130

Knee feels good....didn't call the doctor yet, maybe tomorrow.

Had a lot of energy today. Shortened up some rest times and got through the routine pretty quickly. The hack squats leave me a little out of breath, so I still took my time with these.

There seems to be an epidemic of people I know passing away lately. I just got word that a good friend of mine succumbed to cancer last night. She had throat cancer. I thought she was in remission, but I guess it must have returned. She and I spent a lot of time in Washington D.C. lobbying our congressmen and women. We even had lunch in the Senate dining room with one of the Senators from Oregon, which was quite an honor. We always spoke of it when we would get together. I will miss her a lot.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2013, 07:26:14 PM
Tuesday - hams and calves

Weight 209

Forgot to bring the written routine with me - had to wing it.

Lying leg curls, 4X15-8 @ 60-90 lbs.
Standing calf raises, 5X15 @ 200-300
Seated leg curls, 4X15-10 @70-100
Leg press calf raises, 4X15-10 @ 235-310
Reverse hack squats, 4X20-10 @ 90-360
Seated calf raises, 3X15-8 @ 90-135
Hip abduction, 3X20-15 @ 90-110
Hip adduction, 3X20-15 @ 110-130

Knee feels good....didn't call the doctor yet, maybe tomorrow.

Had a lot of energy today. Shortened up some rest times and got through the routine pretty quickly. The hack squats leave me a little out of breath, so I still took my time with these.

There seems to be an epidemic of people I know passing away lately. I just got word that a good friend of mine succumbed to cancer last night. She had throat cancer. I thought she was in remission, but I guess it must have returned. She and I spent a lot of time in Washington D.C. lobbying our congressmen and women. We even had lunch in the Senate dining room with one of the Senators from Oregon, which was quite an honor. We always spoke of it when we would get together. I will miss her a lot.
:-\,,news jay,,good workout there tho,,,hacks are tremendous one of my fave's...hacks superset with lunges maybe just a few steps db right next to hack machine 5 per leg will work wonders,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 18, 2013, 09:08:24 PM
:-\,,news jay,,good workout there tho,,,hacks are tremendous one of my fave's...hacks superset with lunges maybe just a few steps db right next to hack machine 5 per leg will work wonders,,,

When I did lunges in the past, I really enjoyed them. I don't remember doing them with added weight. Dumbbells would probably help with balance. I haven't tried to do them since my knee started giving me fits. I am a little concerned about doing one legged exercises with the exception of leg extensions. I can feel that I am compensating with my good knee for the bad one. Like I said, I need to confer with the orthopedist soon. I know my body pretty well, but some things are out of my realm. What I don't want to do is to further injure my knee right now.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on June 18, 2013, 10:45:15 PM
u post it here nobody comes here with malice,,i have over 100 pics on 2 thread of my own and I post pics here ,,I have not been phtoshopped,,,here ,,
Um I have been photoshopped in bed with Josh from a pic that I posted up here. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 19, 2013, 12:46:56 AM
Um I have been photoshopped in bed with Josh from a pic that I posted up here. 

Some of us are privileged and some are not, I guess. ::) I think my photos have been photoshopped too. It's idiotic and childish, but then some of the posters on Getbig are idiot children of the worst kind. I am not sure Steve has ever shown his face in photos he posted on Getbig.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 19, 2013, 04:59:21 AM
Some of us are privileged and some are not, I guess. ::) I think my photos have been photoshopped too. It's idiotic and childish, but then some of the posters on Getbig are idiot children of the worst kind. I am not sure Steve has ever shown his face in photos he posted on Getbig.
never face pic...I mean what can they do with body pic put an ugly face on my bod,or shop me in pic next to tbombz like a statue...Karen has a lot of pics over yrs from events she met a lot of bbers
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 19, 2013, 05:28:59 AM
never face pic...I mean what can they do with body pic put an ugly face on my bod,or shop me in pic next to tbombz like a statue...Karen has a lot of pics over yrs from events she met a lot of bbers
Steve they would not touch your pics. what can they say you are in shape ALL YEAR ROUND. I do not understand why Karen and Jay get picked on by a few idiots on here. Ignore them. Some great Posters on getbig and i only pm with them and the time wasters i just tell them to F*ck off...simple as that. I say who i am on here ..no secrets. I am a man of values and i respect this in other People. I am not a big muscle man and never have said i was but am in good shape for my Age. I am not out to prove iīm better than anyone else. I know i get respect from Young guys when i Train them, nothing to do with my Looks but my Approach to them. when i was a Young guy i would not think twice about punching someone in the teeth but as a mature man you learn how to take Young cocky brats... believe me i have had Young guys mouth off like some on here and as a Young man i never thought about it i just whacked them and not just once. I have done  Military,boxing,martial arts,security Close protection,
now i like my peace Training People. Some on getbig Need to learn respect...... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 19, 2013, 05:31:01 AM
Steve they would not touch your pics. what can they say you are in shape ALL YEAR ROUND. I do not understand why Karen and Jay get picked on by a few idiots on here. Ignore them. Some great Posters on getbig and i only pm with them and the time wasters i just tell them to F*ck off...simple as that. I say who i am on here ..no secrets. I am a man of values and i respect this in other People. I am not a big muscle man and never have said i was but am in good shape for my Age. I am not out to prove iīm better than anyone else. I know i get respect from Young guys when i Train them, nothing to do with my Looks but my Approach to them. when i was a Young guy i would not think twice about punching someone in the teeth but as a mature man you learn how to take Young cocky brats... believe me i have had Young guys mouth off like some on here and as a Young man i never thought about it i just whacked them and not just once. I have done  Military,boxing,martial arts,security Close protection,
now i like my peace Training People. Some on getbig Need to learn respect...... ;)
WELL DONE,,,,YOUR KIDS COULD LEARN FROM YOU,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 19, 2013, 05:39:58 AM
WELL DONE,,,,YOUR KIDS COULD LEARN FROM YOU,,,,
remember i took my older Boy as a kid for a ride in a 432 .. when i was a Radio Op..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 19, 2013, 05:43:12 AM
I just trained legs at home i am sweating buckets....
squats 4x12,10,10,8
lunges dB 3x10 per leg
Deadlifts 4x6-8
single leg calf raises 5x15

crunches 3x max....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 19, 2013, 12:33:37 PM
JEEZ it was hot in the Gym tonight. I got to wear a Long sleeved T Shirt and a Gym polo shirt ::) cover my tats)sweated like a pig.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 19, 2013, 12:34:35 PM
JEEZ it was hot in the Gym tonight. I got to wear a Long sleeved T Shirt and a Gym polo shirt ::) cover my tats)sweated like a pig.
water...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 19, 2013, 12:39:42 PM
water...
i drunk loads tonight....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 19, 2013, 01:14:53 PM
JEEZ it was hot in the Gym tonight. I got to wear a Long sleeved T Shirt and a Gym polo shirt ::) cover my tats)sweated like a pig.

We check the weather in Frankfurt, GR because Frankfurt is only about 50 miles from where our son lives. Yesterday and today is has been really hot there. Here we are having our usual late spring cool down. It is about 62 degrees out and lightly sprinkling.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 19, 2013, 01:24:00 PM
We check the weather in Frankfurt, GR because Frankfurt is only about 50 miles from where our son lives. Yesterday and today is has been really hot there. Here we are having our usual late spring cool down. It is about 62 degrees out and lightly sprinkling.
Problem is here it changes very rapidly at the Moment...lots of really bad floods in Germany. Whole villages just flooded.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 19, 2013, 02:38:01 PM
Problem is here it changes very rapidly at the Moment...lots of really bad floods in Germany. Whole villages just flooded.

Floods are always bad news. I live on a hill, if it ever floods here, someone better be building another Ark.  ;D

My son must have learned something from his dad or he just got lucky because when decided to build his house in Uettingen, GR. the only available land was up the hill from town. So no flooding at home. It might mess with his long commute to work though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 19, 2013, 03:08:19 PM
Floods are always bad news. I live on a hill, if it ever floods here, someone better be building another Ark.  ;D

My son must have learned something from his dad or he just got lucky because when decided to build his house in Uettingen, GR. the only available land was up the hill from town. So no flooding at home. It might mess with his long commute to work though.
It is really bad here. I am lucky but People have had to be evacuated. Most have not the Insurance to cover it all because itīs expensive or they never dreamed it would happen. You Need a Special extra clause in your Insurance.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 19, 2013, 07:06:13 PM
back
chin ups x3
bent over rows 135x12,185 x10,205x10,225x10
cable low rows 165x10,180x10,195x10
hammer reverse pulldown x2 2 plates per side
same machine used side grip x2
tbar row chest to pad x3 2 plates x10

weighted hypers 45 plate

bi's
seated curl machine 85x15/115x10/125 x10/140x8 and2 cheat
inc db curls love these again x3 30/35/35 8-10 reps
curls straight bar x2 10 reps 85lbs
hammer rope curls on cable machine x2

abs crunches x3 30 reps
3x roman chair side crunches/...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 19, 2013, 07:11:14 PM
back
chin ups x3
bent over rows 135x12,185 x10,205x10,225x10
cable low rows 165x10,180x10,195x10
hammer reverse pulldown x2 2 plates per side
same machine used side grip x2
tbar row chest to pad x3 2 plates x10

weighted hypers 45 plate

bi's
seated curl machine 85x15/115x10/125 x10/140x8 and2 cheat
inc db curls love these again x3 30/35/35 8-10 reps
curls straight bar x2 10 reps 85lbs
hammer rope curls on cable machine x2

abs crunches x3 30 reps
3x roman chair side crunches/...
Incline DB curls...classic Steve Reeves. You got to curl strict... no ego ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 19, 2013, 07:21:00 PM
Incline DB curls...classic Steve Reeves. You got to curl strict... no ego ..
yeah donny there awesome nowhere to go/cheat,,,my arms are responding to them again feel fuller/veiny as heck from them...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 19, 2013, 07:32:25 PM
yeah donny there awesome nowhere to go/cheat,,,my arms are responding to them again feel fuller/veiny as heck from them...
I actually think this is the most strict bicep mass builder. The range of Motion and  strictness makes it unique. In my opinion.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 19, 2013, 07:35:09 PM
It is really bad here. I am lucky but People have had to be evacuated. Most have not the Insurance to cover it all because itīs expensive or they never dreamed it would happen. You Need a Special extra clause in your Insurance.

It is the same in the U.S., one must carry flood insurance or it is, "too bad, so sad." Of course, when FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Assistance) gets involved many people get some compensation for their losses regardless of insurance or not. One of the threats where I live is earthquakes. We've never experienced a severe one in the almost 50 years we've lived in Oregon, but the possibility of a major earthquake still exists if one believes what they are told by the media. Our house is probably the worst construction design if we were to have an earthquake which measured high on the Richter scale our house would collapse on itself. Our living area ceiling vaults to 22 ft. with very little lateral support. Although there is a lot of lumber in this house, it is basically nailed together and not like to old post and beam homes where the supporting structure is notched and dowelled. Anyway, Earthquake insurance is an add on to my regular home insurance which runs about $600 a year with a $10,000 deductible.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 19, 2013, 07:44:10 PM
It is the same in the U.S., one must carry flood insurance or it is, "too bad, so sad." Of course, when FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Assistance) gets involved many people get some compensation for their losses regardless of insurance or not. One of the threats where I live is earthquakes. We've never experienced a severe one in the almost 50 years we've lived in Oregon, but the possibility of a major earthquake still exists if one believes what they are told by the media. Our house is probably the worst construction design if we were to have an earthquake which measured high on the Richter scale our house would collapse on itself. Our living area ceiling vaults to 22 ft. with very little lateral support. Although there is a lot of lumber in this house, it is basically nailed together and not like to old post and beam homes where the supporting structure is notched and dowelled. Anyway, Earthquake insurance is an add on to my regular home insurance which runs about $600 a year with a $10,000 deductible.
it is crazy what is going on around the Globe. Germans are very strict about Money.. sounds like the US maybe is better. I do not Know.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 19, 2013, 07:56:46 PM
I am managing to take at least one body part exercise routine off every so often....at least it hasn't always been the same muscle group. Tonight I should have worked my back, but I did not make it to the gym because of a series of events.

About the time I would usually head out for my workout, I was held up on the phone dealing with the contractor for my recent replacement gutter purchase which has resulted in some issues I demand be resolved by them. I mean "fuck it" after spending nearly $9,000 on new gutters they should look perfect and they don't. And yes, cross me and I can be a real asshole to deal with as the contractor found out today.

The second disruption is more welcome. Our daughter, son-in-law, grandson and their two dogs are in town for my son-in-law's grandmother's funeral next Friday (note: too many funerals lately). Anyway they are staying with us and my daughter decided to fix all of us dinner tonight. They like to eat early which also resulted in my usual window of opportunity for my workout being further cut away. I did make good use to the time though, I got some much needed yard work done.

I am down with it though. Life is all about maintaining balance. If I miss a day here or there not going to the gym, I will still survive and maybe even progress in the long run. And dinner was very healthy fare. My daughter is a vegetarian. We had soup with very little chicken in it, a great salad and terrific rolls....oh and a few glasses of a really tasty wine.

So I have a question, which always occurs to me when I miss a day at the gym; is it better to skip the routine I would have done and stay on schedule or is it better to do the routine which will put me off schedule? I've tried both. Here is what I have concluded, if I miss working out a particular muscle group, there is always next week as opposed to when I try to stay to the routine, every day I spend catching up feels like I am punishing myself for skipping that one day....which is very negative. Often I end up pooping out and missing a day and a part of my routine anyway, even if it is several days later.

I know what you all are thinking too, the fellow is retired, he doesn't even have to work, what the heck is his problem? I am with you on this except to say that when we get older, there is a reason we retire if we can. That reason is that we simply don't have the same energy levels we once did.

How's that for a lesson in being "mature" and one I bet you don't want to know about, since most all of you are young enough to be my children.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 19, 2013, 08:04:45 PM
it is crazy what is going on around the Globe. Germans are very strict about Money.. sounds like the US maybe is better. I do not Know.

I have been accused of being frugal by my family. Perhaps I am too European and too strict with my finances? All I know is that I hate debt. I will do anything including going without to avoid debt. My parents lived the high life all the while they were actually underwater financially. I cannot live like that. So yes, maybe I am a bit frugal or more commonly thought of as being cheap.

I am a senior living on a fixed income, while the economy (no matter how bad it is), keeps inflating, year after year. Although I am doing fine today, if I should get lucky and live another 20 years, things could become tight around here. The last thing I want is to be dependent on others to survive. Although I feel confident that my children would never let my wife or I end up homeless, I rather they never have to make a decision about this. So I will continue with my frugal ways.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 19, 2013, 08:06:44 PM
i would throw a few sets or couple movements say chinups x2 and rows x2 good heavy weight good reps and then move on to main group that day,,better to get some pump in there so it dosent lapse say 7/10 days between session...miss sorta but not entirely...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 19, 2013, 08:08:00 PM
i would throw a few sets or couple movements say chinups x2 and rows x2 good heavy weight good reps and then move on to main group that day,,better to get some pump in there so it dosent lapse say 7/10 days between session...miss sorta but not entirely...
agree ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 19, 2013, 08:20:48 PM
i would throw a few sets or couple movements say chinups x2 and rows x2 good heavy weight good reps and then move on to main group that day,,better to get some pump in there so it dosent lapse say 7/10 days between session...miss sorta but not entirely...

Sounds like a plan. I probably need a home gym, because it is now 8:00 p.m. and I have no desire to drive to the gym for a pump. However, this is good advice for the future.

I have to laugh at the idea of chin-ups because I am so pathetically weak on this exercise, which of course means I should be doing them.

We should be training partners, you and I. I am not sure what I have to offer you, but you have a lot of inspiration to offer me.

Incidentally, my son-in-law, who is a great guy, used to be a National Champion Pairs Figure Skater and was fit as a fiddle. After fifteen years in the army, I notice he has a fair sized gut on him. He also has far more injuries than I do and many of them are service related. He has two bum knees, neck issues, migraine headaches, and mild PTSD as a result of three deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan over these last many years. His MOS is forward observer. Forward observers have one of the highest mortality rates of any position in the U.S. Army.

If I miss a day at the gym to spend time with the guy that makes my daughter happy, so be it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 19, 2013, 08:28:06 PM
Sounds like a plan. I probably need a home gym, because it is now 8:00 p.m. and I have no desire to drive to the gym for a pump. However, this is good advice for the future.

I have to laugh at the idea of chin-ups because I am so pathetically weak on this exercise, which of course means I should be doing them.

We should be training partners, you and I. I am not sure what I have to offer you, but you have a lot of inspiration to offer me.

Incidentally, my son-in-law, who is a great guy, used to be a National Champion Pairs Figure Skater and was fit as a fiddle. After fifteen years in the army, I notice he has a fair sized gut on him. He also has far more injuries than I do and many of them are service related. He has two bum knees, neck issues, migraine headaches, and mild PTSD as a result of three deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan over these last many years. His MOS is forward observer. Forward observers have one of the highest mortality rates of any position in the U.S. Army.

If I miss a day at the gym to spend time with the guy that makes my daughter happy, so be it.
i'll be right over,,, ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 19, 2013, 11:06:27 PM
i'll be right over,,, ;D

Thanks Steve, you are a standup guy who I would feel honored to train with.

Just because I have been keeping track, I am going to say I am okay with missing my back workout today, and here's why; in the last seven weeks I had missed 4 days working out, two were legs, one was shoulders and one was chest. The only thing I have not missed a beat on is arms. Since arms are the first work out of the week, this is understandable.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 20, 2013, 06:52:09 AM
If I miss a scheduled workout I just hit it the day after. It's okay to miss workouts. No where is it written that in order to gain leg day has to be say Tuesday. So if you miss Tuesday it's legs on Wednesday. Guys get so anal about days of the week. Monday is chest. Tuesday is back. Wednesday is off. Thursday is legs. Friday is delt and arms. Weekends off. Don't let the 7 day calendar be a dictator to your recovery. Your body doesn't work according to a 7 day calendar. If you need a day off take it. If work interferes because of over time or just exhaustion push that work out to the next day. Chances are you will come back stronger getting a better pump.  

Now if you are drugged to the gills and you make a living off bodybuilding you can be a little unbending with taking days off. Both Yates and Mentzer said if you need an unscheduled day off then take it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 20, 2013, 07:20:19 AM
If I miss a scheduled workout I just hit it the day after. It's okay to miss workouts. No where is it written that in order to gain leg day has to be say Tuesday. So if you miss Tuesday it's legs on Wednesday. Guys get so anal about days of the week. Monday is chest. Tuesday is back. Wednesday is off. Thursday is legs. Friday is delt and arms. Weekends off. Don't let the 7 day calendar be a dictator to your recovery. Your body doesn't work according to a 7 day calendar. If you need a day off take it. If work interferes because of over time or just exhaustion push that work out to the next day. Chances are you will come back stronger getting a better pump.  

Now if you are drugged to the gills and you make a living off bodybuilding you can be a little unbending with taking days off. Both Yates and Mentzer said if you need an unscheduled day off then take it.
SOUND ADVICE,,AND I AGREE WITH THIS ,,DONE THIS MANY TIMES,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 20, 2013, 07:53:05 AM
SOUND ADVICE,,AND I AGREE WITH THIS ,,DONE THIS MANY TIMES,,
yes me too...Sound advice
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 20, 2013, 08:15:13 AM
so later i will pump up my delts and do some bike cardio...

I will do a very fast moving tri-set..then at the end some seated DB presses. sure i will be using less weight at the end with my presses but for me itīs about Feeling the muscles.. my delts are alway getting worked on chest and even back day to a degree.

Front DB raises 3-5 x 12
side DB raises 3-5x12
Rear DB raises 3-5x12

seated DB press 3-5 x8-12

i will go by feel regarding sets...then i will do an interval Programme on the bike. I think i will do some incline slant board sit ups..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 20, 2013, 09:43:45 AM
If I miss a scheduled workout I just hit it the day after. It's okay to miss workouts. No where is it written that in order to gain leg day has to be say Tuesday. So if you miss Tuesday it's legs on Wednesday. Guys get so anal about days of the week. Monday is chest. Tuesday is back. Wednesday is off. Thursday is legs. Friday is delt and arms. Weekends off. Don't let the 7 day calendar be a dictator to your recovery. Your body doesn't work according to a 7 day calendar. If you need a day off take it. If work interferes because of over time or just exhaustion push that work out to the next day. Chances are you will come back stronger getting a better pump.  

Now if you are drugged to the gills and you make a living off bodybuilding you can be a little unbending with taking days off. Both Yates and Mentzer said if you need an unscheduled day off then take it.

Thanks for your advice. You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned not getting too anal about the workout routine. I have been rightly accused of being very anal about some things occasionally. This would be one of those things or times.

Clearly I am not either drugged to the gills or planning on being the oldest living professional bodybuilder anytime soon. I just want to be healthy and fit for as long as possible....hopefully until the day I die and also hopefully that day will be a long time from now.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 20, 2013, 09:46:29 AM
yes me too...Sound advice

Seems like we are all in agreement then. I need to be a little less obsessive about what I do and when I do it when it comes to working out. Got and thanks to you, Steve and Oldtimer1 for giving me permission to be a little less uptight about working out.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 20, 2013, 09:53:17 AM
THATS WHY I HAVE A NEW MACHINE GIVEN TO ME .STACK VERSION WITH CHEST/LAT/TRI/BICEP/LEG ABILITY I MISS SOMETHING OR WANT EXTRA DAY TO DO TOTAL BODY I CAN ;D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 20, 2013, 10:29:11 AM
THATS WHY I HAVE A NEW MACHINE GIVEN TO ME .STACK VERSION WITH CHEST/LAT/TRI/BICEP/LEG ABILITY I MISS SOMETHING OR WANT EXTRA DAY TO DO TOTAL BODY I CAN ;D...

Now I know what I need for Christmas or sooner. Convert one of our three spare bedrooms into a workout room with a multipurpose machine like yours and also move the treadmill in there for cardio. I'll cover the walls with mirrors so I can see my magnificent body developing by flexing between sets. And since I will be in the privacy of my own home, I can work out wearing the proverbial (orange) thong. ;D That should do it....wait, I also need a tripod for my camera and some good lighting for all the photos I will post up on Getbig.  ;D ;D

Note: Some of what I just wrote is serious and some of it is a joke, for those who have trouble telling the difference.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 20, 2013, 10:32:57 AM
Now I know what I need for Christmas or sooner. Convert one of our three spare bedrooms into a workout room with a multipurpose machine like yours and also move the treadmill in there for cardio. I'll cover the walls with mirrors so I can see my magnificent body developing by flexing between sets. And since I will be in the privacy of my own home, I can work out wearing the proverbial (orange) thong. ;D That should do it....wait, I also need a tripod for my camera and some good lighting for all the photos I will post up on Getbig.  ;D ;D

Note: Some of what I just wrote is serious and some of it is a joke, for those who have trouble telling the difference.
;D...JAY UR AWESOME,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 20, 2013, 11:53:21 AM
THATS WHY I HAVE A NEW MACHINE GIVEN TO ME .STACK VERSION WITH CHEST/LAT/TRI/BICEP/LEG ABILITY I MISS SOMETHING OR WANT EXTRA DAY TO DO TOTAL BODY I CAN ;D...
yes i like working out at home too. Got enough weight for me...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 20, 2013, 01:18:37 PM
funny i am just watching The Streets of San Francisco....he he  watched this in the UK as a kid....old 70s cop series  ;D ;D man...check out the Flares
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 20, 2013, 01:28:24 PM
funny i am just watching The Streets of San Francisco....he he  watched this in the UK as a kid....old 70s cop series  ;D ;D man...check out the Flares
KARL MALDEN UGLIEST MAN ON TV,,,MICHAEL DOUGLAS ,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 20, 2013, 02:46:41 PM
Still funny watching it.:....it's in German
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 20, 2013, 06:09:17 PM
It almost killed me to vary from my set routine, but I survived. There is hope for me yet!  :) Thanks for the votes of confidence.

Today I worked back

My weight was 210

Hammer front lat pull-downs, 5X15-8 @ 140-250 lbs.
Nautilus complete rows, 4X12-8 @ 120-160
Hammer low rows, 3X12-8 @ 180-230
Nautilus reverse grip pull-downs, 3X12-8 @ 131-158
Hammer one arm rows, 2X10-8 @ 45-70
Nautilus rowing back, 3X14-12 @ 80-120
Finished off with cable full range front pull-downs (just cause) 3X15 @ 108

Tomorrow I will work deltoids.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 20, 2013, 06:12:44 PM
Still funny watching it.:....it's in German

My wife watches Law and Order Special Victims shows over and over again. This series has been on the air for so long, it is actually possible to forget how the plot plays out in a given show. I admit that I sometimes watch this with her. One of my favorite shows to watch is House Hunters International. It is almost like traveling to foreign places, almost but not quite the same as actually being there.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 20, 2013, 07:49:00 PM
delts,

same as last workout hi rep side laterals to start,,20 lb x20,25x20.25x20,30x15
fr press x3
seated bent laterals rear delt,25x12,30x10.30x10
upright rows x2 premade curl bar 70x12,80x10
fr raises db x2 35/35 sets 10

shrugs on chest machine hammer  3 plates x20/4plates x20/5 plates x15
finished holding 45plate per hand and slow trap squeeze up shrug x20 2 sets

forarms reverse cable curl behind back and curl bar reverse 3 times each

calves standing calf raises 3x toes in/out/straight 8 reps per foot position ,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 21, 2013, 10:35:48 AM
pumped my arms today...

after a good warm up...

Close grip chins 3x max Superset with
Close grip bench press 3x10

Seated DB curls 3x10 Superset with
seated (back supported) two arm DB extensions 3x10

Reverse ez bar curls 3x10-15 Superset with
Reverse Grip pulley pushdowns(straight bar) 3x10-15

the last superset i liked...both reverse grips but one Lifting Curling and the opposite with a reverse grip going the other way for triceps... i then did old fashioned leg raises of a flat bench.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 21, 2013, 03:19:50 PM
a little fun ,,she got new tires today,and i always detail myself unless too tired then car washed 'brushless'of course,she's like me a little older 2004,some mileage 93,000 almost perfect other than some chips in bumper which i try to touch up :P,,,,otherwise well kept,,in and out..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 21, 2013, 06:11:54 PM
a little fun ,,she got new tires today,and i always detail myself unless too tired then car washed 'brushless'of course,she's like me a little older 2004,some mileage 93,000 almost perfect other than some chips in bumper which i try to touch up :P,,,,otherwise well kept,,in and out..

Your 2004 BMW looks pristine. It is obvious you take really good care of it. Silver is my favorite color for a car.

I once had a silver Peugeot. I got it really cheap but the maintenance was a killer. I sold it when the radiator needed replacement and I was quoted $1,000 to do it. That was in 1992. Of course they are no longer imported so parts must be totally out of sight pricewise.

My 2004 Mazda 6 sport wagon has a few more miles on it then your BMW. It is currently at 113,000 miles. At the moment, it is running like crap. I think it is the fuel filter. The car goes in for an oil change on Tuesday when the mechanic will check and replace the fuel filter if it turns out this is the problem. I do all the maintenance right on schedule. It isn't due for a tune up until 150,000 miles.

This Mazda has been a really good and serviceable car. The upholstery was crummy though. The fabric started to fray a couple of years ago. I had the interior reupholstered in gray leather. The back of the wagon is where the dogs ride. I vacuum the carpet there about one a week. It probably needs it more often, but the car is just transportation to me. My parents always had high end cars that were never more than 2 years old. That is a really expensive way to go. There are other places I'd rather spend my coin.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 21, 2013, 07:19:46 PM
thanks jay,,interior is near flawless,leather is nice black,1 little hole on my seat like a pen hole :-\,,and some of the wood is cracked a bit,too expensive to replace them wayyy too much,,i want to get the rims refinished and some of the 'curb'scratches ,,my wife says i am a outside surface person my car and my body looks ,she say's there is no use for for her between me loving the car and my build :P,,i rub her feet a few more times a wk to get her to see my other side ;D...my daughters see a bmw and they say hey daddy's car or its like yours ,,,those mazda's ,toyotas,nissans go way over 200,000 miles...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 21, 2013, 09:45:21 PM
You make me feel very fortunate to be married to the wonderful woman I am. Each day when I come home from the gym, my wife says, "How was your workout, did you have a good one?" We have a lot in common and there are other areas where we are complete opposites. Sometime, I'll watch back to back cooking shows with her and sometimes she'll watch some really odd ball movie I pick out on Netflix with me. Neither of us complains.

Like you, I am very interested in looking and feeling fit. I actually am just narcissistic enough still, that I enjoy getting noticed. My wife has never put any effort into being fit. It has just never been her thing and I respect that. While fancy and expensive cars interest me, they are on my list of thing to have when I win the lottery. I am more of a house person. It is important to me that our house look good....not so much for other folks, but for me.

Your a good man. Women love having their feet rubbed. I am lacking in this department. About the best I do is rub some lotion into my wife's feet to soften them for her. We do give each other exchange back rubs though....does this count?


Currently, I am fascinated with the idea of having a Fiat. I wish they were just a little more powerful. Living on a hill, this is an issue. The Mazda is a 6 with a 3.5 engine. When you hit it, it flies. Being as how it is a gray-green station wagon, I think it surprises folks when I give it some gas. Normally though, I drive like and old man....wait....I am an old man.  ;D


 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 21, 2013, 10:00:12 PM
Today I worked my deltoids and abdominals

weight 209

ISO front press, 5X15-6 @ 90-180 lbs.
Nautilus seated side laterals, 5X15-10 @ 85-125
Body Masters, rear delts, 4X15-10 @ 60-90
Standing DB side laterals, 3X15-12 @ 10-15
Hammer shrugs, 4X15-10 @ 90-230
Cable upright rows, 3X15-12 @ 77-104
Fast Track (3 positions), 1X25 ea @ machine weight
Nautilus crunches, 2X25 @ 80-90
Nautilus back raises, 2X25 @ 80-90
Nautilus rotary torso, 1X25 @ 60 each side

I think my delts are looking bigger and more defined. I am really excited about this. I was actually flexing them between sets like a real "gym rat" lol.


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 21, 2013, 10:46:57 PM
quad training today:


squats  4 sets

leg extensions  4 sets

leg press 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 22, 2013, 09:09:04 AM
quad training today:


squats  4 sets

leg extensions  4 sets

leg press 3 sets
simple and does the Job...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 22, 2013, 09:12:35 AM
You make me feel very fortunate to be married to the wonderful woman I am. Each day when I come home from the gym, my wife says, "How was your workout, did you have a good one?" We have a lot in common and there are other areas where we are complete opposites. Sometime, I'll watch back to back cooking shows with her and sometimes she'll watch some really odd ball movie I pick out on Netflix with me. Neither of us complains.

Like you, I am very interested in looking and feeling fit. I actually am just narcissistic enough still, that I enjoy getting noticed. My wife has never put any effort into being fit. It has just never been her thing and I respect that. While fancy and expensive cars interest me, they are on my list of thing to have when I win the lottery. I am more of a house person. It is important to me that our house look good....not so much for other folks, but for me.

Your a good man. Women love having their feet rubbed. I am lacking in this department. About the best I do is rub some lotion into my wife's feet to soften them for her. We do give each other exchange back rubs though....does this count?


Currently, I am fascinated with the idea of having a Fiat. I wish they were just a little more powerful. Living on a hill, this is an issue. The Mazda is a 6 with a 3.5 engine. When you hit it, it flies. Being as how it is a gray-green station wagon, I think it surprises folks when I give it some gas. Normally though, I drive like and old man....wait....I am an old man.  ;D


 
well i like cars too but not really botherd about anything Flash...although Steve's BMW Looks nice and well kept. It does not surprise me because i think he is a Person who pays Attention to Detail.. as you are Jay at home.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 22, 2013, 09:59:31 PM
DELTS AND BIS:


SMITH MACHINE PRESSES   4 SETS

SINGLE ARM SIDE LATERALS   4 SETS

REVERSE CABLE FLYES    4 SETS

DB SHRUGS    2 SETS


HAMMER STRENGTH PREACHER CURLS    4 SETS

SEATED DB CURLS   3 SETS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 22, 2013, 11:32:57 PM
No workout today. Although I decided to take a break from the gym this weekend, I hadn't expected to catch my wife's cold. I started having symptoms right after dinner. Now my throat is raspy and my nasal passages are burning. I have been flooding my body with green tea and lemon, plus taking Cold EEZE every couple of hours. Now I am going to go to bed and hope it is gone when I get up in the morning.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 23, 2013, 05:29:06 AM
No workout today. Although I decided to take a break from the gym this weekend, I hadn't expected to catch my wife's cold. I started having symptoms right after dinner. Now my throat is raspy and my nasal passages are burning. I have been flooding my body with green tea and lemon, plus taking Cold EEZE every couple of hours. Now I am going to go to bed and hope it is gone when I get up in the morning.
hope you are ok my Friend....get well .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 23, 2013, 08:42:32 AM
legs today sun usually sat,, had family day for daughter's picnic for baseball end of season..

brutal workout
extensions 1st 175x12/190 x12,220 x12,235x12,250 x12
hack squats 3 plates x10/4 plates x10/5 plates x10 really pumped now
did old painful move 3rd lift weight hi rep leg presses just 4 plates but did 20 reps x3 damn hard pump..
walking lunges 80 lbs on back x2

hams stiff legged deads db 55 x12,65 x10,75x10
leg curl 140x10/155x10/165 x10 with help lol,,,

calves leg press 3 plates x15/3.5 plates x12/4 plates x10/4plates x10/then back 3.5x12/3 plates x12   tough,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 23, 2013, 08:48:47 AM
legs today sun usually sat,, had family day for daughter's picnic for baseball end of season..

brutal workout
extensions 1st 175x12/190 x12,220 x12,235x12,250 x12
hack squats 3 plates x10/4 plates x10/5 plates x10 really pumped now
did old painful move 3rd lift weight hi rep leg presses just 4 plates but did 20 reps x3 damn hard pump..
walking lunges 80 lbs on back x2

hams stiff legged deads db 55 x12,65 x10,75x10
leg curl 140x10/155x10/165 x10 with help lol,,,

calves leg press 3 plates x15/3.5 plates x12/4 plates x10/4plates x10/then back 3.5x12/3 plates x12   tough,,,,

That is intensive... extensions building up to 250...then Hacks...then lunges....you are really strong.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 23, 2013, 08:50:14 AM
That is intensive... extensions building up to 250...then Hacks...then lunges....you are really strong.
the leg press was tough 20 reps after 15 ur just praying for it to end,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 23, 2013, 08:51:33 AM
the leg press was tough 20 reps after 15 ur just praying for it to end,,,,
Steve i want to Train with you...hardcore.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 23, 2013, 09:05:38 AM
for jay,,, ;),, ;D...motivation,,,i'm hurting still pumped got to go fill pool for kids,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 23, 2013, 09:12:03 AM
your legs Steve are Solid Muscle...better legs than mine. I got solid legs too but i got to say yours are thicker. outstanding  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 23, 2013, 11:03:35 AM
hope you are ok my Friend....get well .

-A little better this morning, thanks Donny. I've been popping Cold EEZE every two hours all night long. Stuff tastes horrible, but if it stifles the cold, a little metal taste is tolerable.

I think my muscles are enjoying the short holiday. I plan to be in top form on Monday.

Our daughter and family are here for a short visit. They came up for my son-in-law's grandmother's funeral last Friday. My son-in-law decided to extend his leave for a few more days so the could visit and also so they could scope out some properties for a place to buy. They plan on moving back to Oregon in a matter of months. Right now there are 4 dogs and 5 people running around the house. It took a few days, but all the dogs are getting along now. If one comes to me for attention, they all show up. It is pretty crazy, but kind of fun too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 23, 2013, 04:56:15 PM
a little fun ,,she got new tires today,and i always detail myself unless too tired then car washed 'brushless'of course,she's like me a little older 2004,some mileage 93,000 almost perfect other than some chips in bumper which i try to touch up :P,,,,otherwise well kept,,in and out..
Nice ride nj keep the winter salt off it. I crashed my 2005 - 325i miss it now  :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 23, 2013, 07:25:21 PM
Nice ride nj keep the winter salt off it. I crashed my 2005 - 325i miss it now  :'(
thanks mr n where ya been ?yeah keep it clean all yr,,i had some bad ,,very bad headlight clouding ,,made headlights at night very dimmed,so after trying on own to clean them,hooked up with one of the vendors at the dealer i work at and he used solution and resealed them to factory look :o.. :),,,looks like i had old lights replaced with new ones,,now at night road is bright again :D...its a great ride,,,its been repained on one side bad accident i had plowed into by lady both doors and side airbags ,airbag in door,scared the crap out of me,,my daughter was 11 months at the time behind me,,she shook it off after few minutes no hospital,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 23, 2013, 11:05:42 PM
thanks mr n where ya been ?yeah keep it clean all yr,,i had some bad ,,very bad headlight clouding ,,made headlights at night very dimmed,so after trying on own to clean them,hooked up with one of the vendors at the dealer i work at and he used solution and resealed them to factory look :o.. :),,,looks like i had old lights replaced with new ones,,now at night road is bright again :D...its a great ride,,,its been repained on one side bad accident i had plowed into by lady both doors and side airbags ,airbag in door,scared the crap out of me,,my daughter was 11 months at the time behind me,,she shook it off after few minutes no hospital,,,

This must have been crazy scary for you and your baby daughter. Glad all the damage was to the machine and not to you and your daughter. Air bags and small children are not a good combination.

My few accidents have all been fender benders, thank goodness. All the damage to my vehicle is from age and the road. Someday, I will have all the little paint nicks repaired. My most major accident was when I busted out the back window recently while taking my defunct lawnmower into the shop and it crashed through the back window. Cost me $100 co-pay for my comprehensive deductible.

Cold EEZE is a fake! My cold has already moved down to my chest and I am into the full-on bronchitis. Looks like I will be going to the doctor for a prescription antibiotics. I have had bronchial pneumonia so many times I've lost count. This started in infancy and has haunted me all my life. Tonight, I self medicated with scotch. While it has numbed the cough reflex, it has not killed the virus. Not to be morbid, but I have a strong feeling this is what I will eventually die from....bot not this time.

What is most inconvenient is that I have probably the busiest week of the year coming up next week. I am signed up to attend a three day conference at the end of the week. My hotel room is paid for and I have almost everything I need to do ready to go. Unless a miracle happens and I am suddenly over this shit by Wednesday, I will cancel my room and not attend the conference. Never-the-less, I have some commitments I must get done regardless of whether I grace them with my presence or not.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 24, 2013, 04:48:09 AM
thanks mr n where ya been ?yeah keep it clean all yr,,i had some bad ,,very bad headlight clouding ,,made headlights at night very dimmed,so after trying on own to clean them,hooked up with one of the vendors at the dealer i work at and he used solution and resealed them to factory look :o.. :),,,looks like i had old lights replaced with new ones,,now at night road is bright again :D...its a great ride,,,its been repained on one side bad accident i had plowed into by lady both doors and side airbags ,airbag in door,scared the crap out of me,,my daughter was 11 months at the time behind me,,she shook it off after few minutes no hospital,,,
I just been lurking in the bushes ;D Sorry to hear but a least yours is still running. I passed out at the wheel hit a huge car dealership sign car was totalled. Doctors don't know why.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 24, 2013, 06:04:55 AM
I just been lurking in the bushes ;D Sorry to hear but a least yours is still running. I passed out at the wheel hit a huge car dealership sign car was totalled. Doctors don't know why.
must have been the low carbs lol,,,15,000 with supplemental on the damage on it,,i really like the car if they totaled it ,I would have had to get another car,,i just put new tires this past wk ,car runs and drives like a clock...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 24, 2013, 06:14:06 AM
must have been the low carbs lol,,,15,000 with supplemental on the damage on it,,i really like the car if they totaled it ,I would have had to get another car,,i just put new tires this past wk ,car runs and drives like a clock...
They totalled it, gave me 10k which I was suprised. I had a bodyshop fried of mine he agreed rather than fixing it I took the money bought a older maxima from a wholesale dealer another friend runs great = no payments, but miss it  :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 24, 2013, 06:25:15 AM
They totalled it, gave me 10k which I was suprised. I had a bodyshop fried of mine he agreed rather than fixing it I took the money bought a older maxima from a wholesale dealer another friend runs great = no payments, but miss it  :'(
bmw hold there value that's why u got 10k,,,maxima's are great cars I had 99 loved it,drove nissans till I could afford bmw ,I worked with 2 diff bmw stores combined 13yrs I know a lot about them,worked with Porsche as well,i'm with Volvo now.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 24, 2013, 08:50:21 AM
Chest and cardio today...

Flat BB press 3x6-10
flat dB flyes 3x10-12
incline BB press 3x6-10
Incline Flyes 3x10-12
I x max push ups

went running in the Woods after this. Nice and cool today..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 24, 2013, 09:00:22 AM
Chest and cardio today...

Flat BB press 3x6-10
flat dB flyes 3x10-12
incline BB press 3x6-10
Incline Flyes 3x10-12
I x max push ups

went running in the Woods after this. Nice and cool today..
HOT,HOT,HOT IN JERSEY,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 24, 2013, 09:53:44 AM
I am just glad itīs cooler here.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 24, 2013, 11:17:10 AM
HOT,HOT,HOT IN JERSEY,,,

Of course I left Jersey during a heat wave to vacation in South Carolina. It's warm here but no 90 degrees like Jersey. Damn I live by the beach too in Jersey. Anyway, enjoying my time here. Worked legs in the condo gym. Limited equipment.

Smith machine  squats 3 x 10
dumbbell lunges 3 x 8
Tried their machine leg press it had the strangest strength curve. Got easier as you pushed out. It should have been the other way around. Only did one set.
leg extensions 3 x12
standing leg curl 3 x10
single leg calf raise 3 x 10 (injured calf. These were tough)
seated calf 3 x 15

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 24, 2013, 01:40:42 PM
must have been the low carbs lol,,,15,000 with supplemental on the damage on it,,i really like the car if they totaled it ,I would have had to get another car,,i just put new tires this past wk ,car runs and drives like a clock...

Michelin Primacy MXV4 is what I put on my car the last time it needed tires. The car handles much better and these tires really quieted the road noise as compared to what I had before. The salesman at Les Schawb talked me into buying Toyo premium high performance tires several years back. They were noisy, they only lasted about 2 years and my car would drift like it was out of alignment if you took your hands off the wheel. With the Michelin tires I could go for miles with out steering on a straight road. I think Mercedes come factory equipped with Michelin Primacy tires.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 24, 2013, 01:52:19 PM
bmw hold there value that's why u got 10k,,,maxima's are great cars I had 99 loved it,drove nissans till I could afford bmw ,I worked with 2 diff bmw stores combined 13yrs I know a lot about them,worked with Porsche as well,i'm with Volvo now.

I am very fond of the Volvo C30.

I picked out the color, metallic white, interior black on black leather with and automatic transmission. I am too lazy to shift.

The car might be a bit small, but that is exactly what I like about it. There is still plenty of room in the back for the pups and my wife's rollalator.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 24, 2013, 02:07:31 PM
Michelin Primacy MXV4 is what I put on my car the last time it needed tires. The car handles much better and these tires really quieted the road noise as compared to what I had before. The salesman at Les Schawb talked me into buying Toyo premium high performance tires several years back. They were noisy, they only lasted about 2 years and my car would drift like it was out of alignment if you took your hands off the wheel. With the Michelin tires I could go for miles with out steering on a straight road. I think Mercedes come factory equipped with Michelin Primacy tires.
GREAT TIRES MXM4 WE US THEM ON S60 VOLVOS,I JUST PICKED UP SET GOODYEAR ASSURANCE TOURING TIRE FOR MY BMW SO FAR NICE QUIET RIDE,,I HAD EAGLE R/S GOODYEAR THEY WERE GOOD AS WELL...I HAVE DEALT WITH SO MANY TIRES AT WORK GOD I FORGOT ...C30 IS DISCONTINUED...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 24, 2013, 02:18:25 PM
GREAT TIRES MXM4 WE US THEM ON S60 VOLVOS,I JUST PICKED UP SET GOODYEAR ASSURANCE TOURING TIRE FOR MY BMW SO FAR NICE QUIET RIDE,,I HAD EAGLE R/S GOODYEAR THEY WERE GOOD AS WELL...I HAVE DEALT WITH SO MANY TIRES AT WORK GOD I FORGOT ...C30 IS DISCONTINUED...

Trust me to pick a car that isn't in production any longer. I got to thinking that if the back seats didn't fold flat there probably isn't enough room for all the stuff I haul around in my wagon anyway.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 24, 2013, 07:44:02 PM
chest
still mixing it up ,,heavier db press to get stronger and supersets rest way till end..

fdb press warmup 50x12,,60 x12,65x10,70x10 hit 75 x6 heaviest yet since healing time...
superset then inc press with inc flyes
superset hammer press with dips
cable crossovers x2x15 reps to finish

tris
pushdowns 110x15.130x10.140x12
dip machine 190x12.200x12,210x11
single arm rope cable extension
seated extension arm on pad x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 24, 2013, 10:59:34 PM
My cold is raging on. No workout today. -Slept until noon.

I took my wife to the doctor today because her cold started first and since she has congestive heart failure and a tendency towards pneumonia, her getting a cold is more serious then it is with me. The doctor put her on an antibiotic for a bacterial infection in her lungs.

So far, I am keeping my cold under control. Tonight it is all in my head which for me is a good thing since I also have a tendency for colds to become bronchial pneumonia. As soon as my chest starts becoming congested I will be getting an antibiotic from the doctor too.

Besides the fact that getting a cold sucks and is interfering with my workouts. This week is probably one of the busiest weeks for me of the year. I had to cancel a meeting tonight. Thursday, Friday and Saturday I am expected to be at the annual OSEA conference. If I am not considerably better, I won't be attending for the first time in years.  I guess there is no good time to catch a cold, but this is probably one of the worst times for me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 25, 2013, 07:49:26 AM
My cold is raging on. No workout today. -Slept until noon.

I took my wife to the doctor today because her cold started first and since she has congestive heart failure and a tendency towards pneumonia, her getting a cold is more serious then it is with me. The doctor put her on an antibiotic for a bacterial infection in her lungs.

So far, I am keeping my cold under control. Tonight it is all in my head which for me is a good thing since I also have a tendency for colds to become bronchial pneumonia. As soon as my chest starts becoming congested I will be getting an antibiotic from the doctor too.

Besides the fact that getting a cold sucks and is interfering with my workouts. This week is probably one of the busiest weeks for me of the year. I had to cancel a meeting tonight. Thursday, Friday and Saturday I am expected to be at the annual OSEA conference. If I am not considerably better, I won't be attending for the first time in years.  I guess there is no good time to catch a cold, but this is probably one of the worst times for me.
THAT SUCKS,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 25, 2013, 12:53:44 PM
Back today....

Sternum chin ups 4xmax
Barbell Rows 4x10
Deadlifts 4x6-10

that was it and i did some incline sit ups.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 26, 2013, 05:06:22 AM
Just worked legs...
barbell squats 4x6-10
DB lunges 3x8-10
lying leg curls 3x12
one legged DB calf raises 4x15-20

later i will do a bit of bike riding.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 26, 2013, 10:40:48 AM
leg workout:


romanian deadlifts   3 sets

leg extensions  4 sets

lying leg curls   3 sets

leg presses  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 26, 2013, 11:19:00 AM
leg workout:


romanian deadlifts   3 sets

leg extensions  4 sets

lying leg curls   3 sets

leg presses  3 sets

nice George... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 26, 2013, 12:44:32 PM
I did not workout yesterday. It would have been an interesting workout if I had though. I was on one long sneezing attack. Finally, I just took my broken body to bed so I could sleep through this shit. This morning, I felt much better when I first got up and then the sneezing, coughing and runny nose kicked in. Still, I think I am marginally better then yesterday. I briefly imagined I could work legs today and then thought better of it.

Never-the-less, I just called and cancelled my hotel room reservations and sent an email out to my cohorts attending conference that I would not be there this year. Even if I started feeling markedly better tomorrow, I don't wish to make a couple of hundred people sick with my germs.

On the car front. I took my car in for some work yesterday. I thought it might need a new fuel filter as it was running kind of rough. As it turned out, another coil had gone bad and it was misfiring. This happened last year too. It is a fairly expensive fix. I went ahead and had the mechanic replace a third coil and put in new plugs for those coils. All three coils are on the backside of the engine which is more labor intensive to get to and thus more costly. So now if anymore coils go bad, they should be the old ones in the front. The car is not due for a tune up for another 40,000 miles.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 26, 2013, 01:30:51 PM
Just wait untill you're fit Jay....get well  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 26, 2013, 03:12:38 PM
chest:

incline smith presses   4 sets

nautilus nitro presses  4 sets

kneeling cable crossovers  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 26, 2013, 07:55:22 PM
back
chins x3 12-15
t bar row chest to pad  x3 2 plates x10,2 plates 10 and 5 x10,2 plates and 25 x10
seated low row mchine underhanded grip 175x10,190x19,195x8
front pulldown x3 150 x10,165 x8,165 x8
1 arm dumbell rows 80 x10,90x10

weighted hypers 3 x12 45 plate


bi's
premade straight bar curls 70x12,80x10,90x10
seated inc db curls 30x12,35x10,40x8
seated curl machine x3 110x10,125x10,130x8

abs 4 sets 30 floor crunches legs elevated on bench


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 27, 2013, 12:03:19 AM
Just wait untill you're fit Jay....get well  ;)

Yeah, guess I won't be bragging about how I never get sick for awhile now. This is the first cold I've had since I retired in 2009. I just wish I would get a cold like other people do and without the threat of bronchial pneumonia. I did feel better today, however I will probably "lay low" until this thing is gone.

Unfortunately my wife isn't doing as well as me. She has a doctor's appointment again on Friday when they will check her oxygen saturation levels and her heart again. She slept most of the day today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 27, 2013, 12:45:16 AM
Yeah, guess I won't be bragging about how I never get sick for awhile now. This is the first cold I've had since I retired in 2009. I just wish I would get a cold like other people do and without the threat of bronchial pneumonia. I did feel better today, however I will probably "lay low" until this thing is gone.

Unfortunately my wife isn't doing as well as me. She has a doctor's appointment again on Friday when they will check her oxygen saturation levels and her heart again. She slept most of the day today.
best wishes to you Both.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 27, 2013, 08:48:32 AM
this is a nothing post just a random thought,i do not keep workout log book or write anything down per say,i workout and remember all the weight and reps I do that workout come home and post it,,i have a very good memory for minute detail ,in my job its important I do service advisor duties for Volvo dealership,i remember people's faces,there last car repair's,names even if meet 1 time only,they appreciate when I remember there vehicle,repair or name when they come in.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 27, 2013, 11:51:16 AM
this is a nothing post just a random thought,i do not keep workout log book or write anything down per say,i workout and remember all the weight and reps I do that workout come home and post it,,i have a very good memory for minute detail ,in my job its important I do service advisor duties for Volvo dealership,i remember people's faces,there last car repair's,names even if meet 1 time only,they appreciate when I remember there vehicle,repair or name when they come in.

This is a nice ability to have. My mind is going in hundreds of directions at one time. I can hardly remember my own name, much less someone else's. I write all my workouts down or I'd have no idea what I was doing or how much weight I lifted. You might think this is a condition of age, but it isn't. I was actually much worse when I was younger. I was a terrible student in school, although I managed to get decent grades most of the time.

On the flip side, I can remember things that happened to me when I was a very young child. I remember almost all the street addresses of everywhere I lived. I remember what cars my parents had and when they had them. I remember occasions and experiences whether good or bad in minute detail. Lately, I've run into people I haven't seen for some time and I actually remembered their names....so there is hope for me yet.

Today, people like me are diagnosed ADHD. When I was young, people just said I didn't pay attention or was daydreaming. When my IQ was tested as a kid, the results showed that I had a fairly high IQ which baffled my instructors.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 27, 2013, 01:44:24 PM
It's funny how years ago people were thought of as slow or stupid but now they know more about  learning disorders
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 27, 2013, 04:24:31 PM
It's funny how years ago people were thought of as slow or stupid but now they know more about  learning disorders

No one ever thought I was slow. What they thought was that I was lazy and didn't pay attention. I am not convinced today's tendency to label everyone with some kind of disorder is a benefit to them. My grandson has a near genius IQ and he is also ADHD. In addition, like me he can be lazy, preferring to socialize with his friends then to study. Also like me, his grades are all over the place. If something interests him and challenges him, he will ace it. When something seems uninteresting and unchallenging, he barely passes the class.

Both my son and my daughter were excellent students in school. My son graduated 2nd in his class, salutatorian. He went to a very large high school with many students. This was quite an achievement. Our daughter discovered boys while she was in high school. Her grades were very good, but not as good as her brother's.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 27, 2013, 07:18:41 PM
delts
same few wks hi rep start side laterals 20x20,25x20,25 x20,30 x15
fr press x3 135x10,145x10,155x10,165x8
bent over rear laterals,25x12,30x10,35x10
cable uprights x3
seated front raise dbdumbell long ways x2 25x12,30x10
16 sets a bit more than usual felt good,,,

shrugs chest machine shrug 2 plates x20,3 plates x20.4 plates x15,4.5 plates x12
db shrug dbell at sides 80x12,85x10-12

calves 5 sets standing calf raise 160-240 sets 15/12/12/10/10

forams supesetting cablr reverse wrist curl with weighted rope roll ups

ripped for vacation soon,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 27, 2013, 07:49:58 PM
calf ,,lol..bored.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 27, 2013, 11:42:47 PM
calf ,,lol..bored.

You look jacked in both your photos as usual, Steve. If I may be so bold, your calves could be fuller. This coming from a guy with 16" calves who probably has no right to comment.

I sometimes see guys who are so out of shape with these amazing calves and forearms....makes me wonder, could these muscle groups be the thing that gives us up for who we really are? Steve Reeves had great calves or so I've read. He attributed them to having a paper route when he was as kid in a hilly area. Maybe it is time to get my fat ass back on my bicycle. Hills are not a problem where I live.  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 28, 2013, 03:21:26 AM
You look jacked in both your photos as usual, Steve. If I may be so bold, your calves could be fuller. This coming from a guy with 16" calves who probably has no right to comment.

I sometimes see guys who are so out of shape with these amazing calves and forearms....makes me wonder, could these muscle groups be the thing that gives us up for who we really are? Steve Reeves had great calves or so I've read. He attributed them to having a paper route when he was as kid in a hilly area. Maybe it is time to get my fat ass back on my bicycle. Hills are not a problem where I live.  :D
i agree,,thats why i still pound them 2x wk,,i like the shape of them and there decent considering my quads lol,,,i like the twisted up looking muscle behind the knee above that tho,looks like twisted marble where it ties in to back over the calf ....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 28, 2013, 05:50:57 AM
njflex, Do you use any form of steroids or hormone replacement? I know many won't admit but you do have a good physique that makes me wonder. No accusatory malice intended.

I believe you wrote you're the service manager at a Volvo dealership? I guess this doesn't happen at new car dealers but I just can't believe the how much the air filter/ac filter scam is so rampart at local oil change mechanic places. For those who don't know when you go for an oil change the mechanic or tech will come out with a filthy air filter that he keeps handy so he can run up the bill when you consent to them putting in a new one. I put a brand new air filter in my daughters car 10 minutes before an oil change and the guy comes and shows me a filter that looks like someone was riding off road.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 28, 2013, 09:42:50 AM
njflex, Do you use any form of steroids or hormone replacement? I know many won't admit but you do have a good physique that makes me wonder. No accusatory malice intended.

I believe you wrote your the service manager at a Volvo dealership? I guess this doesn't happen at new car dealers but I just can't believe the how much the air filter/ac filter scam is so rampart at local oil change mechanic places. For those who don't know when you go for an oil change the mechanic or tech will come out with a filthy air filter that he keeps handy so he can run up the bill when you consent to them putting in a new one. I put a brand new air filter in my daughters car 10 minutes before an oil change and the guy comes and shows me a filter that looks like someone was riding off road.
SVC ADVISOR AND NO I REMOVE THE ONE AND SHOW THEM IF ITS DIRTY OR LOOK UP SERVICE HISTORY AND NEVER SELL SOMETHING THATS NOT NEEDED,,,I AM DRUG FREE SIR,,,WHAT THAT MEANS IS I USED STEROIDS 88/91 SMALL TIME STUFF BUT FEW CYCLES ENOUGH TO GIVE ME A PRETTY FAR BASE THAN IF I NEVER USED ,,BUT THIS IS HARD WORK CLEAN SINCE 1991,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 28, 2013, 09:49:17 AM
calf ,,lol..bored.
you remind me of a guy who talked to me a couple of Days ago in the Gym.. he said yeah my calfes aint so good... ;D you should be proud of them and i am sure you are . Talking of calfes.. we have a machine that has you like sitting with your back on a rest.. so it would be like doing donkey calf raises only on a slide machine at an angle.. works well and i have explained this to the Young Boys that it was done with a Partner on your back ..ala...Venice Beach years ago...I have to correct People all the time on this machine partly due to a very misleading Picture on the machine . It Shows execution of the exercise with a very bent knee..so i have seen guys doing a leg press movement  ???...well never mind. Steve you got great calfes !!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 28, 2013, 10:07:31 AM
you remind me of a guy who talked to me a couple of Days ago in the Gym.. he said yeah my calfes aint so good... ;D you should be proud of them and i am sure you are . Talking of calfes.. we have a machine that has you like sitting with your back on a rest.. so it would be like doing donkey calf raises only on a slide machine at an angle.. works well and i have explained this to the Young Boys that it was done with a Partner on your back ..ala...Venice Beach years ago...I have to correct People all the time on this machine partly due to a very misleading Picture on the machine . It Shows execution of the exercise with a very bent knee..so i have seen guys doing a leg press movement  ???...well never mind. Steve you got great calfes !!
DONNY #1 PR GUY HERE 4 ME LOL,,,,I USED THAST MACHINE LOVED THE DONKEY CALF 2 VERSIONS SWIVEL LOWER BACK PAD ONE I DISLIKED,BUT THE VERSION THAT HAD STRAIGHT PAD DIDN'T MOVE IT WAS A GOOD,,THESE WORK BEST WITH A SLIGHT KNEE BEND 'GOOD LUCK' ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 28, 2013, 10:34:15 AM
DONNY #1 PR GUY HERE 4 ME LOL,,,,I USED THAST MACHINE LOVED THE DONKEY CALF 2 VERSIONS SWIVEL LOWER BACK PAD ONE I DISLIKED,BUT THE VERSION THAT HAD STRAIGHT PAD DIDN'T MOVE IT WAS A GOOD,,THESE WORK BEST WITH A SLIGHT KNEE BEND 'GOOD LUCK' ;D
Steve ...i know what you mean Bro... ;D  "Good luck" ... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 28, 2013, 10:42:25 AM
mean while back at the Ranch..... so a guy was telling me today he had shoulder pains. He wanted to to Smith machine seated presses behind the neck.. so i asked him does this cause you pain? ummmm ,,yes it does. So i said why do it ? listen i said.. lets do some seated machine press with a neutral grip(Hammer)..oh well ..surprise no pain. then seated side machine laterals and then rear delt machine, Job done without pain.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 28, 2013, 10:51:40 AM
i have to admit i was lazy today myself... i just had enough today and wanted to go home if you understand what i mean.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 28, 2013, 01:31:58 PM
mean while back at the Ranch..... so a guy was telling me today he had shoulder pains. He wanted to to Smith machine seated presses behind the neck.. so i asked him does this cause you pain? ummmm ,,yes it does. So i said why do it ? listen i said.. lets do some seated machine press with a neutral grip(Hammer)..oh well ..surprise no pain. then seated side machine laterals and then rear delt machine, Job done without pain.

It is amazing what some folks do when it comes to working out and pain. Shoulder injuries seem pretty common when you look around the gym and notice more than a few folks with surgical scars on their delts. One fellow kept reinjuring his shoulders so often that his doctor finally told him that if he got another injury, he wouldn't be his surgeon.

I've done Smith behind the neck presses and they've been fine for me. I start with pretty light weight and work up. They are not my favorite should exercise. I prefer the Hammer machine press for a couple of reasons, one is the three grip variations, the other is that each shoulder area is worked separately, which disallows using one side to help the other.

One time I did something to compromise my shoulder. It took a long time to heal. I just backed off any delt work that aggravated it until there was no more pain. Seems like the commonsense approach to me.   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 28, 2013, 01:34:10 PM
i have to admit i was lazy today myself... i just had enough today and wanted to go home if you understand what i mean.

Although I am feeling a little better, I am still coughing like a fool. I don't think folks at the gym would welcome me yet. I am still hopeful that I will avoid this going into bronchial pneumonia, so I am doing everything possible to take care of myself. I do miss the gym though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 28, 2013, 01:37:20 PM
It is amazing what some folks do when it comes to working out and pain. Shoulder injuries seem pretty common when you look around the gym and notice more than a few folks with surgical scars on their delts. One fellow kept reinjuring his shoulders so often that his doctor finally told him that if he got another injury, he wouldn't be his surgeon.

I've done Smith behind the neck presses and they've been fine for me. I start with pretty light weight and work up. They are not my favorite should exercise. I prefer the Hammer machine press for a couple of reasons, one is the three grip variations, the other is that each shoulder area is worked separately, which disallows using one side to help the other.

One time I did something to compromise my shoulder. It took a long time to heal. I just backed off any delt work that aggravated it until there was no more pain. Seems like the commonsense approach to me.   
I RATHER DO FRONT PRESS OVER BEHIND NECK AND DO A DUMBELL PRESS,,,BEHIND NECK SMITH IS A BIT BETTER YOUR RIGHT JAY...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 28, 2013, 03:06:40 PM
ARM TRAINING:


DIPS (BODY WEIGHT)  4 SETS

KNEELING CABLE EXTENSIONS  4 SETS


LYING DB EXTENSIONS  2 SETS


STANDING EZ BAR CURLS  5 SETS


PRECOR MACHINE CURLS   5 SETS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 28, 2013, 05:47:32 PM
I RATHER DO FRONT PRESS OVER BEHIND NECK AND DO A DUMBELL PRESS,,,BEHIND NECK SMITH IS A BIT BETTER YOUR RIGHT JAY...

The fellow I mentioned before preferred dumbbell presses. His movements were erratic and he tended to hoist more weight then he could handle with good form.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 28, 2013, 07:18:09 PM
The fellow I mentioned before preferred dumbbell presses. His movements were erratic and he tended to hoist more weight then he could handle with good form.
:-\...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 29, 2013, 02:59:53 AM
The fellow I mentioned before preferred dumbbell presses. His movements were erratic and he tended to hoist more weight then he could handle with good form.
i see this every day in the Gym...Young bucks who are hungry to build big muscles... of course there are a few "know it alls" who try to spread their advice to others in the Gym. Do not get me wrong we have some Guys with a wealth of knowledge and i see it in their Training and i talk to them.. exchanging ideas and such... I tend to find that the Guys who "know it all" tend to have inferior physiques and tend to Change their workouts too often. I tell Young Guys to Keep it simple and stick to the Basics in the beginning.. i look at them and if i think they have good genetics i will start them on a 3 day split. If they Need more time a full Body workout with Basics.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 29, 2013, 03:10:42 AM
so i have 3 days off and work again Tuesday... i have time to do a few things. I think maybe i will go Swimming later... relax a bit. Thank god itīs cooler here now.. donīt know how you US Guys tolerate hot weather. I am more like an ice bear, although i do go Brown very fast in the sun.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: TightBody on June 29, 2013, 08:22:19 AM
3 mile walk on the beach xoxo
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 29, 2013, 08:26:01 AM
3 mile walk on the beach xoxo
had Trouble reading that... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 29, 2013, 10:57:41 AM
I WILL WORK LEGS THIS EVE:


LEG EXTENSIONS  4 SETS


SMITH MACHINE SQUATS  4 SETS


LEG PRESS  4 SETS


ROMANIAN DEADLIFTS  4 SETS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 29, 2013, 03:00:05 PM
I WANT TO WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY 4TH OF JULY!!!


I AM HEADING OUT OF TOWN TOMORROW AM.......FIREWORKS.....H EINEKEN......STEAKS..... ..REST AND RECREATION!!!!



NO TRAINING FOR AN ENTIRE WEEK!!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 29, 2013, 07:36:59 PM
had wife's college friend and husband over,,grilled some filet mignon,corn,pasta with mozzarella,broccoli,artichokes,calamata olives and pesto nice cold dish,sangria :D...kids off to bed went into basement used machine 1/2 ,,
2 sets chest press
2 sets chest press up and down grip
2 sets pushups
2 sets pulldowns
2 sets narrow grip pulldowns
2 srts cable curls
2 sets pushdowns
2 sets kick backs
2 sets side raises w dumbells
2 sets cable behind back raises
2 set up right cable
reps 15 mostly pumped to get some extra work..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 29, 2013, 09:09:41 PM
had wife's college friend and husband over,,grilled some filet mignon,corn,pasta with mozzarella,broccoli,artichokes,calamata olives and pesto nice cold dish,sangria :D...kids off to bed went into basement used machine 1/2 ,,
2 sets chest press
2 sets chest press up and down grip
2 sets pushups
2 sets pulldowns
2 sets narrow grip pulldowns
2 srts cable curls
2 sets pushdowns
2 sets kick backs
2 sets side raises w dumbells
2 sets cable behind back raises
2 set up right cable
reps 15 mostly pumped to get some extra work..

There you go making everyone jealous of your machine in the basement.

This morning there was about an hour when I wasn't coughing my fool head off. I thought, good I can work legs today and then the coughing started up again. I am shooting for Monday now.

My wife is much more sick than I am. She finally got up at noon today. She ate breakfast and headed into the living room to crash in the recliner. I had to wake her up for dinner at 7:30 p.m. because I was hungry. I made dinner easy by getting a roasted chicken from the market, some potato salad and I fixed a green salad too. I bet if I go into the living room right now, she is crashed again. The bedroom chair was askew when I went in to check on her this morning, which suggested she might have fallen during the night. When she woke up I asked her about it and she finally admitted that had happened. She said she was only on the floor for a few minutes, but last time she fell she was down for several hours before I heard her calling me. I am not sure I believe her. Frankly, I am concerned.

My workout today was a day of catching up on gardening. I did some pruning, weeding, planting, watering and I mowed the lawn. It is past time for late spring fertilizer, which I may do tomorrow. -Townhouse, here I come. 

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 30, 2013, 02:15:53 AM
had wife's college friend and husband over,,grilled some filet mignon,corn,pasta with mozzarella,broccoli,artichokes,calamata olives and pesto nice cold dish,sangria :D...kids off to bed went into basement used machine 1/2 ,,
2 sets chest press
2 sets chest press up and down grip
2 sets pushups
2 sets pulldowns
2 sets narrow grip pulldowns
2 srts cable curls
2 sets pushdowns
2 sets kick backs
2 sets side raises w dumbells
2 sets cable behind back raises
2 set up right cable
reps 15 mostly pumped to get some extra work..
nice home workout there...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 30, 2013, 09:10:41 AM
legs  :P
back to squats 1st in line pheww,,warmed up stretched good knee creaky tad,135x15,225x12,275 x12,315x10,365x10 ,,,405 was doable not today tho,,
leg press 4 plates x12,5 plates x12,6 x10,7 x10
leg extensions 220 x12,235x12,250x12
great pump 11 sets hard training..

hams
leg curl 140x12,150x10,155x10
still legged dlift 185x10,225x10,225x10

calves leg press and seated calf raise,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 30, 2013, 10:52:38 AM
Nice Steve....i was just running in the woods ....good sweat Run....only thing is i Got bitten to pieces ...lots of things flying around
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 01, 2013, 08:54:19 AM
 Chest...

Decline Barbell press 3x8-10 (Superset) with Decline DB flyes 3x12
Incline Smith machine press 3x8-10 (superset) with Incline Cable Flyes 3x12
push ups between benches 3x max (superset) with seated machine Flyes 3x12

lying knee ins on mat Superset with crunches feet on the mat 3x 30-50 reps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 01, 2013, 08:57:28 AM
Chest...

Decline Barbell press 3x8-10 (Superset) with Decline DB flyes 3x12
Incline Smith machine press 3x8-10 (superset) with Incline Cable Flyes 3x12
push ups between benches 3x max (superset) with seated machine Flyes 3x12

lying knee ins on mat Superset with crunches feet on the mat 3x 30-50 reps.
I HATE DECLINES,,,SOMETIMES THE DB VERSION OK,,FRONT DELT KILLER FOR ME,,,DIPS,DIPS,DIPS,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2013, 09:15:24 AM
I HATE DECLINES,,,SOMETIMES THE DB VERSION OK,,FRONT DELT KILLER FOR ME,,,DIPS,DIPS,DIPS,,,,

For some reason, declines have always been easier for me then flat bench presses, although dips are good too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 01, 2013, 09:23:26 AM
For some reason, declines have always been easier for me then flat bench presses, although dips are good too.
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in what way comfortable or strength?its a short range of motion so going heavy is easier,,,to me its a delt killer,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 01, 2013, 10:31:37 AM
I HATE DECLINES,,,SOMETIMES THE DB VERSION OK,,FRONT DELT KILLER FOR ME,,,DIPS,DIPS,DIPS,,,,
I like Dips too but i find Declines kinder to my shoulders...I like the angle you work at. Some do not like lying down with your head in a lower Position but it really hits my chest. Dips are similar as you know and safer if Training alone.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2013, 12:35:33 PM
I like Dips too but i find Declines kinder to my shoulders...I like the angle you work at. Some do not like lying down with your head in a lower Position but it really hits my chest. Dips are similar as you know and safer if Training alone.

It takes a bit of set up, but I've moved the stand alone decline bench under the Smith machine and done declines that way. It makes it a little safer since there are more places to hook it off.

I am moving to Germany. Whew, it is hot, hot, hot here; 98 degrees Fahrenheit yesterday and 95 today. The hottest part of the day this far north and west is around 5:00 p.m. So it just keeps building and building all day long. The house cooled down to 74 with all the windows open overnight. It already has climbed to 76 and it is 84 degrees outside at 11:30 a.m. There is absolutely no breeze. This isn't making this friggin' cold feel any better. Summer colds have to be the worst.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 01, 2013, 01:01:08 PM
GENTS,,I ALSO DO A GREAT SMITH MOVEMENT FLAT BENCH TO UPPER CHEST AT NECK/COLLARBONE OLD GIRONDA MOVEMENT.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 01, 2013, 01:07:09 PM
It takes a bit of set up, but I've moved the stand alone decline bench under the Smith machine and done declines that way. It makes it a little safer since there are more places to hook it off.

I am moving to Germany. Whew, it is hot, hot, hot here; 98 degrees Fahrenheit yesterday and 95 today. The hottest part of the day this far north and west is around 5:00 p.m. So it just keeps building and building all day long. The house cooled down to 74 with all the windows open overnight. It already has climbed to 76 and it is 84 degrees outside at 11:30 a.m. There is absolutely no breeze. This isn't making this friggin' cold feel any better. Summer colds have to be the worst.
well today was warmer but yesterday was OK...the next few days should be warmer by weather reports. I canīt wait for October..better for me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 01, 2013, 01:14:13 PM
GENTS,,I ALSO DO A GREAT SMITH MOVEMENT FLAT BENCH TO UPPER CHEST AT NECK/COLLARBONE OLD GIRONDA MOVEMENT.
NOOOOO.... :o  shoulder killer for me . No doubt you have a stronger shoulder structure than me. Dips and other exercises i can do but Girondas Press to neck is an exercise that is in my opinion a shoulder wrecker. You canīt use heavy weight with... unlike Decline press  and if you do it will cause Problems. A totally unnatural movement.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 01, 2013, 01:46:14 PM
NOOOOO.... :o  shoulder killer for me . No doubt you have a stronger shoulder structure than me. Dips and other exercises i can do but Girondas Press to neck is an exercise that is in my opinion a shoulder wrecker. You canīt use heavy weight with... unlike Decline press  and if you do it will cause Problems. A totally unnatural movement.
100 PCT CORRECT IT CAN WRECK U ,,I USE A 45 AND MAYBE TEN EACH SIDE SLOW AND TO THE LOWER PORTION THROAT WHERE MEETS COLLARBONE,,I'M GOING TO SUPERSET THIS WITH INCLINE FLYES.. ONLY BECAUSE I HAVEN'T DONE THEM RECENTLY AND LIGHT BULB WENT OFF IN HEAD,,,TOP HEAD  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 01, 2013, 02:27:50 PM
100 PCT CORRECT IT CAN WRECK U ,,I USE A 45 AND MAYBE TEN EACH SIDE SLOW AND TO THE LOWER PORTION THROAT WHERE MEETS COLLARBONE,,I'M GOING TO SUPERSET THIS WITH INCLINE ONLY BECAUSE I HAVEN'T DONE THEM RECENTLY AND LIGHT BULB WENT OFF IN HEAD,,,TOP HEAD  :D
Steve if you can do it ..it works for you. If you got no Problems...a great superset. Do it  ;D I am happy i can incline press and do incline flyes. I have to admit decline flyes are for most a forgotten exercise...a shame because it really is a great move.,,and superst outstanding.it really hits your pecs diffrent.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2013, 04:56:56 PM
100 PCT CORRECT IT CAN WRECK U ,,I USE A 45 AND MAYBE TEN EACH SIDE SLOW AND TO THE LOWER PORTION THROAT WHERE MEETS COLLARBONE,,I'M GOING TO SUPERSET THIS WITH INCLINE FLYES.. ONLY BECAUSE I HAVEN'T DONE THEM RECENTLY AND LIGHT BULB WENT OFF IN HEAD,,,TOP HEAD  :D

What is the advantage of doing these to-the-neck flat bench presses? I've done all manner of grips, close, wide and normal, thinking this made some difference. Of course narrow grip is a triceps exercise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2013, 05:01:03 PM
I have to admit decline flyes are for most a forgotten exercise...a shame because it really is a great move.,,and superst outstanding.it really hits your pecs diffrent.

You are exactly right about this. It is rare to see anyone doing these at the gym. There are two decline bench setups which mostly go unused.

Lately there have been a lot of guys doing flat and incline dumbbell presses, some with amazingly heavy weight. With my arthritic hands and poor ability to grip, you won't see me doing these with mass weights anytime soon.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 01, 2013, 07:06:42 PM
What is the advantage of doing these to-the-neck flat bench presses? I've done all manner of grips, close, wide and normal, thinking this made some difference. Of course narrow grip is a triceps exercise.
go upper pec/delt tie in exercise ,,performed slow/lighter weights or relative to strenght,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 01, 2013, 07:23:04 PM
chest 2 nite continued the supersetting trend 'donny's 'got me on a kick,,
still flat db pressing increasing load still slow in weight to get back up..55x15,65x10,70x10,75x5 dropped to 60 5 more still tough here ???ok..
ok superset 'bench to neck' with incline flyes wicked pump,,worked 135x10 with 30x10,165x10 with 35x10,165x8 with 35x8,back 135x10/30x10
hammer sit up mid /lower pec press 2 plates per side 3x10 with chest dips x3 sets 10
finished cable crossovers x3x12-15

tris again superset
overhead rope with pushdowns 90x10 w/100x10,110 x10 w120x10,120 x9 w/130x10
dip machine with reverse version pushdown all sets dips 190 x10 and did 100,110,115 x10 on reverse
kick back cables x2 x12

abs hanging leg raises x3 and crunch machine x3x15

chest thickness is all the way back,veins coming around,and some split in chest between lower and middle side crease,,,feel good/pumped..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2013, 09:33:24 PM
chest thickness is all the way back,veins coming around,and some split in chest between lower and middle side crease,,,feel good/pumped..

Keep doing what you are doing, because from the photo you posted, it is obviously working.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 02, 2013, 01:25:09 AM
Keep doing what you are doing, because from the photo you posted, it is obviously working.


yes i have to agree...Steve you look solid in that Picture and considering you had an injury ..amazing low fat AND dense muscle. Now that is not easy and your Training and diet are spot on.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 02, 2013, 06:39:16 AM
yes i have to agree...Steve you look solid in that Picture and considering you had an injury ..amazing low fat AND dense muscle. Now that is not easy and your Training and diet are spot on.
THANKS JAY/DONNY ....yeah still 15 lbs off dumbbell best ,i'm cool with it,,the supersetting chest workouts a month in are great ,,great pumps,my chest looks 'arnoldesque'lol, :D,,pumped...Donny hooked me in to them SUPERSETS,,i do feel great,,weird how I conk out at 75 dbells after 6,that arm just tires in same point,,,so I drop them pick up 60's rep till gassed..diet wise I eat clean foods,5 meals some snacks non bbing type foods ,but then again bbers eat like crap most of the time in building stage 'they need to or feel need to'...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 03, 2013, 05:49:36 AM
so today i superseted legs...

leg extensions 3x10-15 with
Smith machine squats 3x10-15

seated leg curls 3x10-15 with
stiff deadlifts (Dumbbells) 3x10-15

DB lunges 3x8 with
seated leg press 3x10-15

i finished off with a calf machine we have seated at an angle like donkey calf raises 4x15 doing lunges at the end with leg press worked very well as a superset... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 03, 2013, 06:09:47 AM
so today i superseted legs...

leg extensions 3x10-15 with
Smith machine squats 3x10-15

seated leg curls 3x10-15 with
stiff deadlifts (Dumbbells) 3x10-15

DB lunges 3x8 with
seated leg press 3x10-15

i finished off with a calf machine we have seated at an angle like donkey calf raises 4x15 doing lunges at the end with leg press worked very well as a superset... ;D
nice Donny,,i was off yesterday.took girls for real homemade icecream,i had cappuccino crunch on a cone good stuff,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 03, 2013, 12:30:33 PM
nice Donny,,i was off yesterday.took girls for real homemade icecream,i had cappuccino crunch on a cone good stuff,,,
Thatīs great Steve... ;D i love ice cream...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 03, 2013, 02:06:53 PM
nice Donny,,i was off yesterday.took girls for real homemade icecream,i had cappuccino crunch on a cone good stuff,,,

Ice cream is soothing to my throat these days. After almost two weeks of coughing my head off, my throat is pretty raw feeling. No gym yet.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 03, 2013, 02:11:10 PM
Now I want some ice cream...but it's after 11pm and I'm in bed...I will resist going to my fridge.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 03, 2013, 07:38:59 PM
good evening my ice cream eating amigo's

back attack...
pullups x3 12/12/12
bent over rows 135x12/185x10,195 x10,225 x8
low cable row 160x12,180x10,200x10
hammer pulldown side grip usually do underhanded 45 per side x10 mix up single armed and both arms,45 plus 25 per side x10,45 plus 25 and 10 per x 10
finished t bar row inner grip 2 plates x12,2 plates plus 25 x10,3 plates x10

lower back weighted hypers x3 x12

bi's
straight bar curls 65 x12,85 x10,95 x10
inc db curls 30 x10,35 x10,40 x8 drop to 30 8 more,,,
seated bi machine 2 sets close grip,, 2 sets outer
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 03, 2013, 10:39:18 PM
good evening my ice cream eating amigo's

back attack...
pullups x3 12/12/12
bent over rows 135x12/185x10,195 x10,225 x8
low cable row 160x12,180x10,200x10
hammer pulldown side grip usually do underhanded 45 per side x10 mix up single armed and both arms,45 plus 25 per side x10,45 plus 25 and 10 per x 10
finished t bar row inner grip 2 plates x12,2 plates plus 25 x10,3 plates x10

lower back weighted hypers x3 x12

bi's
straight bar curls 65 x12,85 x10,95 x10
inc db curls 30 x10,35 x10,40 x8 drop to 30 8 more,,,
seated bi machine 2 sets close grip,, 2 sets outer

Went to the doctor today. Now I am eating antibiotics which are making me feel like shit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 04, 2013, 08:02:38 AM
Went to the doctor today. Now I am eating antibiotics which are making me feel like shit.
:-\...feel better jay,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 04, 2013, 08:20:02 AM
delts 4th july here day off  went in morning

tri set pump,,,db press 45x10,side laterals 25 x10,bent laterals rear delt 25 x10,,,set 2 50 lb dbellsx10 other movements same wght,set 3 55 x10
weights same for other 2,,,
then did 2 set superset upright rows with front raises straight bar,used 70/80 lb premade curl bar for uprights ,and used 45 lb straight bar set 1 then set 2 did 55lb set ,,great pumps today

traps did old school 45 lb bar and did sets,135 x15,185x12,225x12,275x10 been a while since i did heavy duty real shrugs ,,i used to hit 315,
then did 2 sets on the chest machine turned arounfd handles to rear side for rear upper traps did 3 plates per side 12 or so reps :),,,

calves 4 sets standing calf raises toes in,straight,out 24 rep sets....i do 8 reps per foot position just # i picked no reason ..

abs 6 sets hanging leg raises/side crunches 12 reps per side

forarms reverse cable curls x3/weighted rope rolls x3

workout was about 1 hr 20 minutes moved fast ,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 04, 2013, 09:47:15 AM
delts 4th july here day off  went in morning

tri set pump,,,db press 45x10,side laterals 25 x10,bent laterals rear delt 25 x10,,,set 2 50 lb dbellsx10 other movements same wght,set 3 55 x10
weights same for other 2,,,
then did 2 set superset upright rows with front raises straight bar,used 70/80 lb premade curl bar for uprights ,and used 45 lb straight bar set 1 then set 2 did 55lb set ,,great pumps today

traps did old school 45 lb bar and did sets,135 x15,185x12,225x12,275x10 been a while since i did heavy duty real shrugs ,,i used to hit 315,
then did 2 sets on the chest machine turned arounfd handles to rear side for rear upper traps did 3 plates per side 12 or so reps :),,,

calves 4 sets standing calf raises toes in,straight,out 24 rep sets....i do 8 reps per foot position just # i picked no reason ..

abs 6 sets hanging leg raises/side crunches 12 reps per side

forarms reverse cable curls x3/weighted rope rolls x3

workout was about 1 hr 20 minutes moved fast ,,,
Good drills Steve... ;D nice amount of work in there for 1 hour 20 .. i am amazed at some People who just stand around talking all the time in the Gym. yes get in there do it and out the Gym...

well i blasted my delts today...

Tri set...
Front raises 3x12
side raises 3x12
bent over laterals 3x12

so to finish off my Delts which were now "pre-exhausted" i did one arm standind Dumbbell presses 4x 10(per arm) and my other Hand Holding an upright. this is another exercise which you never see now. I just decided to do it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 05, 2013, 03:57:38 AM
My plan today for arms is to POF Training for my arms "the Position of Flexion Approach".. hitting the muscles in the Stretch,midrange,fully contracted Position. Sure we all know about Peak contraction and such but before i read Steve Holman's excellent book "home Gym Handbook" i never really thought about it. sure i did curls in diffrent variations and angles and knew about contraction ...it really is a powerful tool to use. can be used for any muscle Group.

Biceps:
Standing Barbell curl (midrange) 3x10
incline DB curls (Stretch) 3x10
concentration curls (contracted) 3x15

Triceps:
lying ez extensions (midrange) 3x12
one arm Overhead DB extensions (Stretch) 3x12
DB kickbacks (contracted) 3x12

I will go for Tri sets and will go for the Feeling rather than weight....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 05, 2013, 09:34:52 AM
My plan today for arms is to POF Training for my arms "the Position of Flexion Approach".. hitting the muscles in the Stretch,midrange,fully contracted Position. Sure we all know about Peak contraction and such but before i read Steve Holman's excellent book "home Gym Handbook" i never really thought about it. sure i did curls in diffrent variations and angles and knew about contraction ...it really is a powerful tool to use. can be used for any muscle Group.

Biceps:
Standing Barbell curl (midrange) 3x10
incline DB curls (Stretch) 3x10
concentration curls (contracted) 3x15

Triceps:
lying ez extensions (midrange) 3x12
one arm Overhead DB extensions (Stretch) 3x12
DB kickbacks (contracted) 3x12

I will go for Tri sets and will go for the Feeling rather than weight....
nice ,,,,good pump there ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: TightBody on July 06, 2013, 06:10:26 AM
Excellent work Donny, Steve and Jay.  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: TightBody on July 06, 2013, 06:16:57 AM
1 hour run outside  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 06, 2013, 07:03:41 AM
Excellent work Donny, Steve and Jay.  :)
thank you,,welcome aboard another lady nice,,,,,post,comment,advice ,,please add any time,pics too if ur not shy...i'm not ;D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 06, 2013, 07:47:12 AM
Today itīs a bit warm here....i will wait till later and go for a wee run in the woods ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 06, 2013, 08:16:45 AM
Today itīs a bit warm here....i will wait till later and go for a wee run in the woods ;D
BLAZING IN NEW JERSEY,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 06, 2013, 08:32:16 AM
thank you,,welcome aboard another lady nice,,,,,post,comment,advice ,,please add any time,pics too if ur not shy...i'm not ;D...
Its a troll Steve. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 06, 2013, 08:55:23 AM
Its a troll Steve. 
thanks for heads up Karen,,,caught me off guard :-\...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 06, 2013, 09:22:35 AM
Its a troll Steve. 
100%
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 06, 2013, 11:54:14 AM
Got bitten to death running in the woods...my head is full of bite spots... ???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: TightBody on July 06, 2013, 12:03:41 PM
thank you,,welcome aboard another lady nice,,,,,post,comment,advice ,,please add any time,pics too if ur not shy...i'm not ;D...

you're welcome hun. Definately not a troll. From some reason that lady is following me around the board. Lots of jealous people in this world, I just ignore them. But thank you! :D :-* 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: TightBody on July 06, 2013, 12:04:24 PM
Got bitten to death running in the woods...my head is full of bite spots... ???

be careful donny, spider bites hurt. :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: TightBody on July 06, 2013, 12:19:10 PM
I've been doing a lot of cardio, i feel amazing. I sleep better and my diet is pretty clean.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 06, 2013, 01:27:57 PM
Got bitten to death running in the woods...my head is full of bite spots... ???

Hopefully not by spiders. The Brown Recluse spider is mostly found in the U.S. It's bite is vicious. A guy I know lost some flesh as a result of Brown Recluse spider bites.

Quote
What are the symptoms?

Brown recluse spider bites don't always hurt right away. In fact, you may not know that you have been bitten until other symptoms appear. Symptoms of a brown recluse spider bite include:
Reddened skin followed by a blister that forms at the bite site.
Mild to intense pain and itching for 2 to 8 hours following the bite.
An open sore (ulcers) with a breakdown of tissue (necrosis) that develops a week or more following the bite. This may take months to heal.

Some people have a severe, systemic (whole-body) reaction to brown recluse spider bites, including the rapid destruction of red blood cells and anemia (hemolytic anemia). Symptoms include:
Fever and chills.
Skin rash all over the body with many tiny, flat purple and red spots.
Nausea or vomiting.
Joint pain.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: TightBody on July 06, 2013, 01:31:47 PM
Hopefully not by spiders. The Brown Recluse spider is mostly found in the U.S. It's bite is vicious. A guy I know lost some flesh as a result of Brown Recluse spider bites.


Jay, where are those spiders found? I hope not in my state. What parts of the USA? thank you :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 06, 2013, 02:32:10 PM
Only thing here that would attack me here is maybe a wild piggy ....lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 06, 2013, 05:13:45 PM
Jay, where are those spiders found? I hope not in my state. What parts of the USA? thank you :)

The map suggests the mid southern states. The fellow I mentioned lives in Portland. Obviously, they get around. Perhaps they just aren't a prevalent in other parts of the country. Let's hope.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 06, 2013, 05:35:30 PM
day of heavier type training,,,rested yesterday totally,worked at my job saturday  :P,,got home jumped into kids pool with them and tossed them around,sunned myself for a bit,,then down stairs before salmon/broccolli dinner,,on my new machine  ;D...

chest press x2 normal grip
press handles long ways x2
tricep pushdowns x2
kick backs x2
pulldowns front x2
reverse pulldowns close grip x2
lateral raises x2 20 lb dumbell
cable raises behind back x2
front raises x2
curls cable x2
hammers x2
2 sets pushups x20
upright rows x2
bent over rear raises x2

all reps 12-15 just pumping /squeezing no heavy loads  ,,this was 60 pct max but sick pump /sweat 20 minutes exercise to excersise
after 6 movements took breather and started next group...good extra work,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 06, 2013, 09:29:16 PM
chest and calves:

incline db presses   4 sets


incline smith presses 4 sets


incline flyes   4 sets


seated calf raises   6 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 06, 2013, 11:31:30 PM
Booty has become TightBody?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 07, 2013, 12:58:07 AM
arms:


kneeling cable extensions   4 sets


rope pushdowns    4 sets


dips   3 sets



standing db curls   4 sets


standing ez bar curls   4 sets


precor machine curls   3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 07, 2013, 01:01:55 AM
Booty has become TightBody?
No it's a troll.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 07, 2013, 04:00:32 AM
Steve and George looking good....i gotta work today (sunday) but just 4 hours so not too bad,,, :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 07, 2013, 04:04:54 AM
No it's a troll.

Even in this thread? That's sad...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 07, 2013, 04:14:36 AM
Even in this thread? That's sad...
Yes I agree. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 07, 2013, 04:20:45 AM
I'm going for a walk!

(http://www.abccaravanclub.nl/evenement/2005/foto/delftsehout.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 07, 2013, 04:31:53 AM
I'm going for a walk!

(http://www.abccaravanclub.nl/evenement/2005/foto/delftsehout.jpg)
wtf DP, you will be walking for a week.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 07, 2013, 04:44:04 AM
wtf DP, you will be walking for a week.

Haha no, this isn't Canada, so the area isn't that large.
It takes about 50 minutes to walk around this lake.
But first I'm gonna take a cold shower, since the sun is shining.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 07, 2013, 04:46:56 AM
Haha no, this isn't Canada, so the area isn't that large.
It takes about 50 minutes to walk around this lake.
But first I'm gonna take a cold shower, since the sun is shining.
Phew relief. I thought you were going on walk about. An Aussie term the aborigines use
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: TightBody on July 07, 2013, 05:58:58 AM
Booty has become TightBody?

definately not a troll. For some reason this lady for the past 3 days has been following me around every board harassing me. My husband told me to document all the slander and we are looking into a restraining order. Never spoken a word to her, not sure her problem. Try to ignore jealous people but she keeps slandering me. Sad that people act like this.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 07, 2013, 07:26:56 AM
Phew relief. I thought you were going on walk about. An Aussie term the aborigines use

Over here the air is way too humid in the summer, right now about 80% :-X ,so no serious hiking.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 07, 2013, 07:31:07 AM
definately not a troll. For some reason this lady for the past 3 days has been following me around every board harassing me. My husband told me to document all the slander and we are looking into a restraining order. Never spoken a word to her, not sure her problem. Try to ignore jealous people but she keeps slandering me. Sad that people act like this.

To document the slander? LOL
It's up to you and Karen, but why don't both of you have a good talk? Ignoring won't solve it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 07, 2013, 08:04:03 AM
legs pushed it today ,,got to gym decided it was super set day punishing,,

warmed up,set 1 leg press 3 plates x10 with extensions 190x10,set 2,, 4 plates x10 with extensions 205 x10,set 3 ,5 plates x10 with extensions 220 x10,set 4 .6 plates x10 with extensions 220 x10

next,,,hack squat 3 plates x10 with 60 lb bar on shoulder walking lunges 12 steps per leg ,4 plates x10 same lunge,4 plates x10 hack same lunge
wiped at this point...

hams sldl db 50 x10 with leg curls 125 x10,50 x10 /leg curl 135 x10,60 lb db x10 /140 x10 leg curl,same for last set...

calves leg press calf raise 3 plates x10 with seated calf raise 2.5 plates x10,next 2 sets did 3.5 plates on press x10 with calf raise 3 plates on front x10 ..

legs are pumped ,,came home ate  :D,,,,,i like training morning best empty stomach,,train at night usually...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 07, 2013, 10:00:51 AM
Booty has become TightBody?

Actually, there is bad blood between these two gals. It would be nice if they worked through there issues, just not in this thread.

An Internet "troll" is someone who posts off topic and is deliberately inflammatory. None of the post in this thread so far from either Booty or Tightbody are trolling posts. It would be good it stays this way. As far as I am concerned, anyone who post maturely should be welcome here....not that it is my call.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 07, 2013, 10:52:51 AM
Actually, there is bad blood between these two gals. It would be nice if they worked through there issues, just not in this thread.

An Internet "troll" is someone who posts off topic and is deliberately inflammatory. None of the post in this thread so far from either Booty or Tightbody are trolling posts. It would be good it stays this way. As far as I am concerned, anyone who post maturely should be welcome here....not that it is my call.

Thanks for your view, Jay. I've just heard about the beef between them and I hope they find a way to solve this, but that's up to them.
BTW, I hope Tightbody stays, since the male to female ratio is prob close to 1,000. I don't know her, so I won't judge :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 07, 2013, 11:06:14 AM
Cook any of you in bulk? I've just finished 14 meals.
Each meal has about:
100 grams of chicken breast
150 grams of white rice
a small cup of veggies
1 tablespoon of olive oil.

The macros: 33 grams of protein, 8 grams of fat and 120 grams of carbs (705 kcals)

Since I'm a lazy chef, I've cooked everything in one large pan.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 07, 2013, 01:02:56 PM
Do you live alone?

I often think I might eat a lot cleaner if I were the only one to be concerned about. Although my wife might be healthier had she been on a bodybuilding diet all these years, I would never have imposed this on her or our kids. Although it probably can be done, it is pretty inconvenient to prepare separate meals for those who want to eat a certain way. Anyway, that's my excuse for not always eating clean.

On the plus side, I have convinced my wife to eat a lean burger, either salmon of beef with cottage cheese and a sliced tomato for dinner every now and again. I think she actually likes this meal. Can't do this too often because she is not supposed to have a lot of protein due to her having kidney failure.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 07, 2013, 01:15:25 PM
legs pushed it today ,,got to gym decided it was super set day punishing,,

warmed up,set 1 leg press 3 plates x10 with extensions 190x10,set 2,, 4 plates x10 with extensions 205 x10,set 3 ,5 plates x10 with extensions 220 x10,set 4 .6 plates x10 with extensions 220 x10

next,,,hack squat 3 plates x10 with 60 lb bar on shoulder walking lunges 12 steps per leg ,4 plates x10 same lunge,4 plates x10 hack same lunge
wiped at this point...

hams sldl db 50 x10 with leg curls 125 x10,50 x10 /leg curl 135 x10,60 lb db x10 /140 x10 leg curl,same for last set...

calves leg press calf raise 3 plates x10 with seated calf raise 2.5 plates x10,next 2 sets did 3.5 plates on press x10 with calf raise 3 plates on front x10 ..

legs are pumped ,,came home ate  :D,,,,,i like training morning best empty stomach,,train at night usually...
you're always hardcore Steve....hi hi ...great intensity
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 07, 2013, 02:07:43 PM
To document the slander? LOL
It's up to you and Karen, but why don't both of you have a good talk? Ignoring won't solve it.
Its lies. I only post on getbig and I have never seen this person until they popped up several days ago. Read the earlier posts where they put xoxo on the end and you will see that it's a troll.

You have more of a chance of making me orgasm than to be a mod.  :P My smaller cat kept me up all last night, so I had to orgasm 6 times last night using 4 different toys to get back to sleep. xoxoxo
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 07, 2013, 04:47:17 PM
Do you live alone?

I often think I might eat a lot cleaner if I were the only one to be concerned about. Although my wife might be healthier had she been on a bodybuilding diet all these years, I would never have imposed this on her or our kids. Although it probably can be done, it is pretty inconvenient to prepare separate meals for those who want to eat a certain way. Anyway, that's my excuse for not always eating clean.

On the plus side, I have convinced my wife to eat a lean burger, either salmon of beef with cottage cheese and a sliced tomato for dinner every now and again. I think she actually likes this meal. Can't do this too often because she is not supposed to have a lot of protein due to her having kidney failure.

Yes, I live alone, which makes it much easier to stay consistent with foods. Man, I remember the arguments with my last ex, haha. She complained about my picky attitude, since she loved to eat 99% of the foods. I can understand her small frustrations from a social point of view.
Should I ever meet a nice woman, then I would absolutely choose a LAT relationship.

Things can become pretty complicated, in case you do have a family or you're living together with someone. I think it's best to discuss this with your partner and find a satisfying solution. Maybe you can cook multiple foods in bulk and combine them after this for her and your own needs? It's a huge time saver, but it requires some planning before you start (long live Excel!)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: TightBody on July 07, 2013, 04:49:21 PM
1 hour cardio at the gym today. 100 situps. I plan on going back to the gym later for more cardio.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: TightBody on July 07, 2013, 04:56:00 PM
legs pushed it today ,,got to gym decided it was super set day punishing,,

warmed up,set 1 leg press 3 plates x10 with extensions 190x10,set 2,, 4 plates x10 with extensions 205 x10,set 3 ,5 plates x10 with extensions 220 x10,set 4 .6 plates x10 with extensions 220 x10

next,,,hack squat 3 plates x10 with 60 lb bar on shoulder walking lunges 12 steps per leg ,4 plates x10 same lunge,4 plates x10 hack same lunge
wiped at this point...

hams sldl db 50 x10 with leg curls 125 x10,50 x10 /leg curl 135 x10,60 lb db x10 /140 x10 leg curl,same for last set...

calves leg press calf raise 3 plates x10 with seated calf raise 2.5 plates x10,next 2 sets did 3.5 plates on press x10 with calf raise 3 plates on front x10 ..

legs are pumped ,,came home ate  :D,,,,,i like training morning best empty stomach,,train at night usually...

Amazing workout, i printed it out for my husband.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 07, 2013, 04:56:15 PM
Its lies. I only post on getbig and I have never seen this person until they popped up several days ago. Read the earlier posts where they put xoxo on the end and you will see that it's a troll.


I assume she (or he?) loves to throw some sarcasm in the mix?
Why not PM her (or..him) and discuss the beef between both of you?
I will read those earlier posts later, to understand the full context (it's 1:50 am here ;) )

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 07, 2013, 05:05:26 PM
I assume she (or he?) loves to throw some sarcasm in the mix?
Why not PM her (or..him) and discuss the beef between both of you?
I will read those earlier posts later, to understand the full context (it's 1:50 am here ;) )


It's a troll and I have blocked this character from being able to pm me.  I am not interested in communicating or having any beef with this person. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 07, 2013, 05:13:00 PM
you're always hardcore Steve....hi hi ...great intensity
;D,,,thanks,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: TightBody on July 07, 2013, 11:50:48 PM
60 minutes on the treadmill. :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 08, 2013, 08:48:52 AM
today i did...

parallel bar Dips 4xmax Superset with
flat bench flyes 4x12

incline DB press(using a grip with Palms facing each other) 4x12 Superset with
Incline flyes4x12
Finished off with 1 set of push ups and then some Basic crunches and Bicycle crunches.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 08, 2013, 09:33:56 AM
Children, please, this is supposed to be a mature thread, no unfounded accusations!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 08, 2013, 09:48:04 AM
Children, please, this is supposed to be a mature thread, no unfounded accusations!!

No matter how 'mature' they are, humans aren't rational machines..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 08, 2013, 10:29:21 AM
No matter how 'mature' they are, humans aren't rational machines..
true but we just donīt want Tools coming in here writing BS...know what i mean ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 08, 2013, 10:43:06 AM
true but we just donīt want Tools coming in here writing BS...know what i mean ?

To tell it like it is, you're referring to TightBody?
I've read the posts between her and Karen, and I find it hard to put my finger on this.  :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 08, 2013, 11:35:58 AM
No matter how 'mature' they are, humans aren't rational machines..
So true.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 08, 2013, 12:27:28 PM
So true.
What we gonna do if cswol jumps over to this thread?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 08, 2013, 12:57:33 PM
No matter how 'mature' they are, humans aren't rational machines..

Most of the time I am very rational because it keeps me sane. Occasionally I get ticked off, like most folks do, then I forget to remain rational for a moment. I recover quickly.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 08, 2013, 12:58:55 PM
if the person is legit ok,,if it get's stupid like lulu bye,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 08, 2013, 01:05:16 PM
Yes, I live alone, which makes it much easier to stay consistent with foods. Man, I remember the arguments with my last ex, haha. She complained about my picky attitude, since she loved to eat 99% of the foods. I can understand her small frustrations from a social point of view.
Should I ever meet a nice woman, then I would absolutely choose a LAT relationship.

Things can become pretty complicated, in case you do have a family or you're living together with someone. I think it's best to discuss this with your partner and find a satisfying solution. Maybe you can cook multiple foods in bulk and combine them after this for her and your own needs? It's a huge time saver, but it requires some planning before you start (long live Excel!)

My guess is that I am just not as serious about my diet as you are. While I watch what I eat, I don't dwell on it. I've never had a problem with gaining unwanted weight. If I have any problems or obsession about weight, it is with being too thin. When I am feeling thusly, I can't always add in some protein drinks or other healthy high protein foods to my diet without having to avoid meals with my wife. Truthfully, at almost 69 years of age, I am not dreaming (fanaticizing) about being a pro-bodybuilder. I am happy to simple be fit and healthy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 08, 2013, 01:07:18 PM
Children, please, this is supposed to be a mature thread, no unfounded accusations!!

It is a mature thread.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 08, 2013, 01:10:11 PM
What we gonna do if cswol jumps over to this thread?

For me it depends on whether he post crap or sticks with the program here. I tend to cut people lots of slack. I hope for the best in people and am really disappointed when they let me down. That's just how I work.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 08, 2013, 01:20:36 PM
Saw an orthopedic surgeon today about the miniscule tear in my right knee. Naturally, it isn't even bothering me right now. Isn't that always the way it goes? Anyway, the doctor explained all my options and suggested that I see him again in 6 weeks especially if it acts up again. The tear won't repair itself. If I elect to have surgery, it is orthoscopic and he said I would be up and walking on it the next day. I didn't ask him how long I've have to wait before going back to doing my leg routine though. Guess I will cross that bridge when I come to it.

I am getting really antsy to hit the gym. I feel better today then I have felt in three weeks. The antibiotic I am on for the bronchial infection is finished on Saturday. I am not sure I can wait until then before going back to exercising at the gym, although I know that would probably be the best thing to do. I have dropped 10 lbs. in the last three weeks and I am beginning to panic that I am getting thin at 198 lbs. I had to wear a belt today to keep my shorts from falling off my butt. LOL!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 08, 2013, 02:55:46 PM
Saw an orthopedic surgeon today about the miniscule tear in my right knee. Naturally, it isn't even bothering me right now. Isn't that always the way it goes? Anyway, the doctor explained all my options and suggested that I see him again in 6 weeks especially if it acts up again. The tear won't repair itself. If I elect to have surgery, it is orthoscopic and he said I would be up and walking on it the next day. I didn't ask him how long I've have to wait before going back to doing my leg routine though. Guess I will cross that bridge when I come to it.

I am getting really antsy to hit the gym. I feel better today then I have felt in three weeks. The antibiotic I am on for the bronchial infection is finished on Saturday. I am not sure I can wait until then before going back to exercising at the gym, although I know that would probably be the best thing to do. I have dropped 10 lbs. in the last three weeks and I am beginning to panic that I am getting thin at 198 lbs. I had to wear a belt today to keep my shorts from falling off my butt. LOL!
don't worry....just get fit ..the gym can wait...at least you won't get porky like some do...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 08, 2013, 02:57:53 PM
if the person is legit ok,,if it get's stupid like lulu bye,,,,
yes....well said steve
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 08, 2013, 03:28:02 PM
Did chest today.

Dumbbell flat bench 2 of 8 reps
Incline dumbbell bench 2 of 8
Flat flies                     2 of 10
Dumbbell pullover        2 of 10

Hanging leg raise 2 x max
Floor crunches 1 x 50
Pulley ab crunches 2 x 35

Took 35 minutes. Rested 5 minutes then hit the treadmill. Today's workout was a challenge due to my recovering shoulder and my calf that has stopped me from running consistently for almost 2 months. I ran a slow 10 minute mile pace then a 9 minutes mile. Ran a quarter in 8 minute pace to see if my leg would hold up. Going to do a 9 and 8 minute mile tomorrow but maybe I shouldn't push things yet. Hope to run some races in September but it all depends on injuries. I have to take it slow and short for now.

Tomorrow is back day. I change how I train a lot but I'm using this split for now. Mon-Chest, Tues-back, Wed-cardio only, Thurs-legs and friday is delt and arms. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 08, 2013, 03:45:31 PM
if the person is legit ok,,if it get's stupid like lulu bye,,,,
Read the first posts of this person and they put xoxox on the end of everything.  Also why did this new person not introduce themselves and give us any bio about themselves?  They just began posting in here randomly.  As they did in kranks log, trolling it up but those posts get deleted. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 08, 2013, 03:50:08 PM
Read the first posts of this person and they put xoxox on the end of everything.  Also why did this new person not introduce themselves and give us any bio about themselves?  They just began posting in here randomly.  As they did in kranks log, trolling it up but those posts get deleted. 
hera ya karen,,i could not read it any way it was posted in pink...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 08, 2013, 03:56:35 PM
hera ya karen,,i could not read it any way it was posted in pink...
Yep.  It was sore on the eyes...yellow and pink posts with xoxox at the end of everything.  Surely you and Donny are not the only smart ones here.  It's obvious that it's a troll.  I even saw it mentioned in the Y board that this TightBody had sent Chaos accusing pms.  Although I have no idea what about.  But what they said about me is also not true.  I never saw this person until they randomly popped up a couple of days ago and I only post on getbig forums.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 08, 2013, 04:09:53 PM
Yep.  It was sore on the eyes...yellow and pink posts with xoxox at the end of everything.  Surely you and Donny are not the only smart ones here.  It's obvious that it's a troll.  I even saw it mentioned in the Y board that this TightBody had sent Chaos accusing pms.  Although I have no idea what about.  But what they said about me is also not true.  I never saw this person until they randomly popped up a couple of days ago and I only post on getbig forums.
what else is new,,,sadly you are always a target,,,i think your nice and nice to look at facially of course the body as well,,,keep coming here its always good to post around you...i like get big but my life in general is always going this is a solace from that and people can see how i train or eat or learn what type music i like ,,whatever,,when it gets stupid/juvenile i get out,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 08, 2013, 04:14:32 PM
I spent a few years in my late 30s and early 40s running marathons and races. I got pretty serious about it and got down to some decent times. During that period though I didn't lift more than twice a week. To lift 4-5 days a week and also run enough to race decently would have destroyed me.
i thought u were young guy?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: TightBody on July 08, 2013, 04:56:01 PM
I have been instructed by Ron, not to reply to any of her threads and ignore her. As I never have responded to her threads in the first place. Thank you Ron. :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 08, 2013, 05:00:49 PM
I have never spoken to this woman in my whole entire life. All she does is follow me around and say this and that. I have never spoken to her, pm'ed her or said a single word to her. I didn't troll anything. In Kranks log, I said, great job Krank, update. It was only deleted after this woman accused me of things I never did. I am now going to report this woman because she is slandering me and defamation of character. I have made screen shots of her accusations.  

I really dont care what she says, as she is just 1 person who posts "messages". Why would I care about some random stranger. I mostly just ignore her. She can be mad and angry at me and it doesnt bother me. She is obessed me. But again, I could care less what one random person off the internet thinks about me. Sad it had to go this far with her. My husband and I will be filing charges against her as soon as I can get her contact information for defamation of character. My mother uses xoxo, so do thousands of people on the net.

I will continue to post where and what I want and continue to ignore this lady as she is just one person of millions on the net. I will let the legal stuff be done to professionals.

Please read the bold parts again, and explain us the 'logic' between them  (if there is any logic ::) ).

Since we're here to help and to support each other, after reading your posts, it seems you have a narcissistic personality disorder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder).
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 08, 2013, 05:25:33 PM
Lol @ the lawsuit talk. :D
Now, admittedly, I'm a little late to the party here, but I have yet to see a TightBody post attacking booty, whereas I see several booty posts lashing out at TightBody.
If someone could link me to TightBodys "trolling" posts of booty it might be helpful. Otherwise, from my perspective, it looks like there might just be a little jealousy from one side. TightBody, while not yet confirmed to be a woman, has the right and the ability to post here as long as the rules are followed.

Now please people, can we get back to ogling njflex?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 08, 2013, 05:37:32 PM
Lol @ the lawsuit talk. :D
Now, admittedly, I'm a little late to the party here, but I have yet to see a TightBody post attacking booty, whereas I see several booty posts lashing out at TightBody.
If someone could link me to TightBodys "trolling" posts of booty it might be helpful. Otherwise, from my perspective, it looks like there might just be a little jealousy from one side. TightBody, while not yet confirmed to be a woman, has the right and the ability to post here as long as the rules are followed.

Now please people, can we get back to ogling njflex?

I have just stated that I didn't think this person was legitimate basing this off the earlier posts.  Why I would be jealous?  I don't even know this person but I can tell that something is not right. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 08, 2013, 05:47:33 PM
I spent a few years in my late 30s and early 40s running marathons and races. I got pretty serious about it and got down to some decent times. During that period though I didn't lift more than twice a week. To lift 4-5 days a week and also run enough to race decently would have destroyed me.

I'm talking about local 5K races. I'm 54 dying to get into the 55 to 60 age group bracket. If I were training for a marathon or even a half marathon I don't know how I could lift at all. Maybe body weight exercises. If I can get in some 20 mile weeks I can get my 5K time to what is acceptable to me. If only my fragile body would cooperate.

When I was young in high school I eventually was a sprinter though I did log miles like the distance guys. I remember being able to string together low 5 minute miles and I was still getting blown out by the best. In college I just wanted to be a bodybuilder and I stayed with pure sprinter training of interval sprints. All my life I wanted to be big and now I realize how foolish it was. It's better to be a ripped and small than a perma bulker who looks amazing in tight clothes but loses the shock when the shirt comes off.

What times were you running marathons? I can't imagine running one in any decent time. I bet I would hit the wall running slow at 10 miles.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 08, 2013, 06:06:12 PM
My guess is that I am just not as serious about my diet as you are. While I watch what I eat, I don't dwell on it. I've never had a problem with gaining unwanted weight. If I have any problems or obsession about weight, it is with being too thin. When I am feeling thusly, I can't always add in some protein drinks or other healthy high protein foods to my diet without having to avoid meals with my wife. Truthfully, at almost 69 years of age, I am not dreaming (fanaticizing) about being a pro-bodybuilder. I am happy to simple be fit and healthy.

I don't have the aspiration to become a pro bber either ;) , but other than the health/performance benefits, it saves a lot of time.
Mind you, I eat 'soul food' as well, like 2 quarter pounders and a raspberry/vanilla milkshake, last weekend  8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 08, 2013, 06:22:24 PM
3:25 is fast. You must have been in amazing cardio endurance shape. Comparing your lifting shape to your marathon body is comparing apples to oranges. Two different athletic goals. I find having a goal of an okay 5K time works with lifting somewhat. Believe me if I rip a hard 5 mile training run there is no way I'm piling on the plates for squats or power cleans the day after.

My goal at my age is health, leaness and to have a little muscle. Compared to what I use to look like I was surprised by a few compliments on vacation. A 50 something woman told me I looked buff laugh out loud. Some 17 year old kid at the the hotel gym told his dad this guy trains like an animal. I'm sure any member of this board would disagree with their conclusions.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 08, 2013, 06:40:07 PM
43 years young.
8),,,good to have u here,,only know you from galineko;s threadfest ,,,i saw you posted as well om my pic thread,much appreciated,,yes jersey shore am going in 2 wks,,but with my little girls,,i might prance around like cast did tho  ;D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 08, 2013, 06:41:01 PM
Lol @ the lawsuit talk. :D
Now, admittedly, I'm a little late to the party here, but I have yet to see a TightBody post attacking booty, whereas I see several booty posts lashing out at TightBody.
If someone could link me to TightBodys "trolling" posts of booty it might be helpful. Otherwise, from my perspective, it looks like there might just be a little jealousy from one side. TightBody, while not yet confirmed to be a woman, has the right and the ability to post here as long as the rules are followed.

Now please people, can we get back to ogling njflex?
:o,,, ;D,,i'm the galineko for the older crowd.... :-*
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 08, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
I wouldn't worry about anyone's opinion on this website. It's a lunatic asylum, albeit an entertaining one.
Welcome aboard. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 08, 2013, 06:53:11 PM
NJ flex check out the Hippo slide in Wildwood on the beach. It's owned by a friend. It's a giant inflatable water slide.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 08, 2013, 07:12:28 PM
NJ flex check out the Hippo slide in Wildwood on the beach. It's owned by a friend. It's a giant inflatable water slide.
thats where i'm going O.T.....nice condo block from beach w/pool ,,i love the ocean tho,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 08, 2013, 07:14:25 PM
Have fun. I used to go to LBI regularly and always enjoyed it.

Try not to embarrass your girls though w/ too much flexing and fist pumping.  ;)

we have been going to lbi for yrs love it there,was afraid some damage from hurricane took some away,my neighbor has house on the bay in lbi say's some areas are kinda hit,,,something different this yr,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 08, 2013, 07:26:05 PM
Have fun. I used to go to LBI regularly and always enjoyed it.

Try not to embarrass your girls though w/ too much flexing and fist pumping.  ;)


LBI wasn't hit to hard. The southern end seemed to get the worse. Most of the houses seem fine. Beach towns like Ortley, Brick, Lavalette, and Mantoloking were hit hard. The hippo slide is on the beach in the sand.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 08, 2013, 07:31:20 PM
I don't have the aspiration to become a pro bber either ;) , but other than the health/performance benefits, it saves a lot of time.
Mind you, I eat 'soul food' as well, like 2 quarter pounders and a raspberry/vanilla milkshake, last weekend  8)

Its good to have balance and that milkshake sounds good!  We don't have flavours like that here
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 08, 2013, 07:36:46 PM
LBI wasn't hit to hard. The southern end seemed to get the worse. Most of the houses seem fine. Beach towns like Ortley, Brick, Lavalette, and Mantoloking were hit hard. The hippo slide is on the beach in the sand.
my daughter will be on it ,,, :),,or i'll force her on it,,,yeah i heard lavalette/ortley joeys surf club gone,,,i went to lavalette for long time as kid same house for 2 wks all the to late teens,then of course seaside/ortley joes/temptations,bamboo lounge,dj's belmar....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 08, 2013, 08:17:26 PM
around all the good posts 2 nite forgot to add workout

chest
flat db press 55/65/75/60 all 10-12,,,75's lower rep trying to get 80/90's back still climbing on these  :-\...
superset inc press with inc flyes ,,did higher version inc press and lowered bench for lower inc flye 165,175/185,,, 30/35/40on flyes
superset hammer lower seated press with cable crossovers 2 plates per side and some change x3 with cables 10 reps per superset..
finished 2 sets bodyweight dips 15 per set,,when i was hurt could do 0  :P,,,so 15 is great...

tris
 seated extension machine x3 12 per set 115,125,140
pushdowns x3 130/140/145
seated dip machine x3 190/190/200
reverse grip pushdowns x3

abs crunch machine/hanging leg raises,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 08, 2013, 09:30:43 PM
I caved in today and bought coffee.  I can't take it any longer, drinking this hot cocoa stuff.  Basically it's so bitter that I have to have heaps of honey with it and now I am finding it too sweet.  I have really cleaned my diet up and find that I can't eat sweet things anymore.  And I purchased a hot chocolate the other day while shopping and couldn't drink it as it was sickly and sweet.  The past two days I have felt like throwing my hot cocoa at the wall.  Time to go back to my morning coffee I think.  Plus I am doing early morning cardio and a coffee gives me that kick that I need at 6am.  I just drank my coffee and feel sane...semi.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: TightBody on July 08, 2013, 10:22:31 PM
3.5 mile brisk walk around my neighborhood. 200 ab crunches. - workout

1 chicken breast with brown rice and broccli for dinner and a protein shake earlier in the day  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: TightBody on July 08, 2013, 10:24:34 PM
Lol @ the lawsuit talk. :D
Now, admittedly, I'm a little late to the party here, but I have yet to see a TightBody post attacking booty, whereas I see several booty posts lashing out at TightBody.
If someone could link me to TightBodys "trolling" posts of booty it might be helpful. Otherwise, from my perspective, it looks like there might just be a little jealousy from one side. TightBody, while not yet confirmed to be a woman, has the right and the ability to post here as long as the rules are followed.

Now please people, can we get back to ogling njflex?

thanks Chaos :-*
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 08, 2013, 10:46:09 PM
I don't have the aspiration to become a pro bber either ;) , but other than the health/performance benefits, it saves a lot of time.
Mind you, I eat 'soul food' as well, like 2 quarter pounders and a raspberry/vanilla milkshake, last weekend  8)


In this case you have me beat. I cannot remember when I last had a milkshake. When I was a kid I liked root beer floats though and hot fudge sundaes. Actually, I still like those things, I just haven't had them in a very long while. Don't know why. Maybe it is time for a hot fudge sundae. It is summer after all.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 08, 2013, 10:57:34 PM
I caved in today and bought coffee.  I can't take it any longer, drinking this hot cocoa stuff.  Basically it's so bitter that I have to have heaps of honey with it and now I am finding it too sweet.  I have really cleaned my diet up and find that I can't eat sweet things anymore.  And I purchased a hot chocolate the other day while shopping and couldn't drink it as it was sickly and sweet.  The past two days I have felt like throwing my hot cocoa at the wall.  Time to go back to my morning coffee I think.  Plus I am doing early morning cardio and a coffee gives me that kick that I need at 6am.  I just drank my coffee and feel sane...semi.   ;D

If you've read any of Edgar Casey work, particularly his views on diet, he maintained that coffee is healthy....until you add stuff to it. So drink black coffee and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 09, 2013, 03:27:00 AM
Its good to have balance and that milkshake sounds good!  We don't have flavours like that here

Actually, I was asking for a raspberry only milkshake, but they explained that they change their special flavored shakes every season, other than the standard stuff (banana, chocolate, etc), so I said "I see, I should visit this place more often". Well, I lied of course  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 09, 2013, 03:56:29 AM
If you've read any of Edgar Casey work, particularly his views on diet, he maintained that coffee is healthy....until you add stuff to it. So drink black coffee and you'll be fine.
The coffee at 6am tomorrow will be very nice. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 09, 2013, 03:58:35 AM
Actually, I was asking for a raspberry only milkshake, but they explained that they change their special flavored shakes every season, other than the standard stuff (banana, chocolate, etc), so I said "I see, I should visit this place more often". Well, I lied of course  ;)
You meant you should visit that place every week then.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 09, 2013, 04:36:36 AM
In this case you have me beat. I cannot remember when I last had a milkshake. When I was a kid I liked root beer floats though and hot fudge sundaes. Actually, I still like those things, I just haven't had them in a very long while. Don't know why. Maybe it is time for a hot fudge sundae. It is summer after all.

'root beer floats' and 'hot fudge sundaes'.. great names and I bet they taste good.
I try to avoid sweetened foods & drinks as much as possible and the same goes for beverages. This year, I've prob drank 3-4 milkshakes and 2-3 glasses of wine. I don't miss these foods/drinks that much, but burgers & pizza are a different story.. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 09, 2013, 04:46:25 AM
You meant you should visit that place every week then.   ;D

Haha no way, unless you invite me ;D
Remember that place where I went for a walk? It was a sunny Sunday afternoon, so this place was crowded. No matter where I looked, I saw obese people everywhere. I know, you see this everywhere, but they motivate me to stay in decent shape.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 09, 2013, 04:52:34 AM
Thx.
yes wellcome to the last Bastion of sanity on getbig .... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 09, 2013, 05:01:00 AM
well i just love Banana milk shakes....i make my own .. 1 banana and some 1.5% milk and there you go in a mixer...really fills you up and quick and cheap ;D... just did a short back workout...

undergrip chin ups weighted 4xmax
one-arm DB rows 4x10
Barbell Close grip upright rows 4x8-10 ( now i normally stay away from These and do DB/BB shrugs but i just went from feel today)

JEEZ...itīs warm and i hate this heat, itīs nothing to some of you in the US but for a wee Scotsman like myself...itīs hell. I have to work tonight and itīs gonna be hot in the Gym. sweat my Little ol ass off.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 09, 2013, 05:11:02 AM
Karen after our conversation on Facebook about Dangerous snakes and stuff in Aussie land i saw a Report on TV yesterday about python snakes breeding in Florida...they have found out 2 types are cross breeding. the Indian and African Pythons and are now in the Florida area. I think they said the Indian ones are very aggressive and the African are bigger and are breeding. They told a Story of a 10 year old Boy in Africa being crushed then eaten by one...the Young Boys friends saw it, climbed up a tree and had to see it. they reckon Florida is ideal for them and they are slowly coming near habitated Areas. I am glad i am in Europe. Some of the shit you got in Australia too....Na...not for me ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 09, 2013, 05:15:05 AM
Did chest today.

Dumbbell flat bench 2 of 8 reps
Incline dumbbell bench 2 of 8
Flat flies                     2 of 10
Dumbbell pullover        2 of 10

Hanging leg raise 2 x max
Floor crunches 1 x 50
Pulley ab crunches 2 x 35

Took 35 minutes. Rested 5 minutes then hit the treadmill. Today's workout was a challenge due to my recovering shoulder and my calf that has stopped me from running consistently for almost 2 months. I ran a slow 10 minute mile pace then a 9 minutes mile. Ran a quarter in 8 minute pace to see if my leg would hold up. Going to do a 9 and 8 minute mile tomorrow but maybe I shouldn't push things yet. Hope to run some races in September but it all depends on injuries. I have to take it slow and short for now.

Tomorrow is back day. I change how I train a lot but I'm using this split for now. Mon-Chest, Tues-back, Wed-cardio only, Thurs-legs and friday is delt and arms. 
yes i like that split....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 09, 2013, 05:15:41 AM
I have been instructed by Ron, not to reply to any of her threads and ignore her. As I never have responded to her threads in the first place. Thank you Ron. :)
who is Ron ???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 09, 2013, 05:18:11 AM
well i just love Banana milk shakes....i make my own .. 1 banana and some 1.5% milk and there you go in a mixer...really fills you up and quick and cheap ;D... just did a short back workout...

undergrip chin ups weighted 4xmax
one-arm DB rows 4x10
Barbell Close grip upright rows 4x8-10 ( now i normally stay away from These and do DB/BB shrugs but i just went from feel today)

JEEZ...itīs warm and i hate this heat, itīs nothing to some of you in the US but for a wee Scotsman like myself...itīs hell. I have to work tonight and itīs gonna be hot in the Gym. sweat my Little ol ass off.

Milk & banana only? Why not add 1-2 scoops of unflavored whey? It would be great if McD sold these.

Be careful with those close grip upright rows (wrists & shoulder joints), give upright rows with 2 cables a try.

Over here, it's warm & stuffy as well, so I prefer the shadow. My gym does a pretty good job with their internal climate, and I sip light flavored water between each set. I try to listen to my heart rate & breathing. This way, I had no problems with my 5 sets of slow & deep squats, yesterday.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 09, 2013, 05:28:11 AM
Milk & banana only? Why not add 1-2 scoops of unflavored whey? It would be great if McD sold these.

Be careful with those close grip upright rows (wrists & shoulder joints), give upright rows with 2 cables a try.

Over here, it's warm & stuffy as well, so I prefer the shadow. My gym does a pretty good job with their internal climate, and I sip light flavored water between each set. I try to listen to my heart rate & breathing. This way, I had no problems with my 5 sets of slow & deep squats, yesterday.
yes normally upright rows irritate my shoulders but they seem OK...yes i sip water between sets too. I put a very slight bit of concentrated orange Juice in there for taste.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 09, 2013, 05:37:15 AM
the only "Ron" on here is Ronald McDonald
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 09, 2013, 05:49:07 AM
yes normally upright rows irritate my shoulders but they seem OK...yes i sip water between sets too. I put a very slight bit of concentrated orange Juice in there for taste.

That's why I perform them with a wide grip, to train the lateral part of my delts.
I do the same trick with drinks, less than 5% is juice. Pomegranate juice is one of my favorites. I only choose unsweetened juices.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 09, 2013, 06:00:26 AM
That's why I perform them with a wide grip, to train the lateral part of my delts.
I do the same trick with drinks, less than 5% is juice. Pomegranate juice is one of my favorites. I only choose unsweetened juices.
yes i know what you mean... i wanted to hit my Traps a bit more with the closer grip. Depending on whatīs going on in the Gym.. i might squeeze in some calfes... ;D i just jump on the calf machine and do a set to failure every so often... depends on how many appointments there are.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 09, 2013, 06:03:49 AM
my god my leg are White... ;D my Face is Brown and my arms. I Need to sit outside in Shorts... Typical Scotsman.... ;) ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 09, 2013, 06:35:47 AM
yes i know what you mean... i wanted to hit my Traps a bit more with the closer grip. Depending on whatīs going on in the Gym.. i might squeeze in some calfes... ;D i just jump on the calf machine and do a set to failure every so often... depends on how many appointments there are.

I have no scientific references for this, but I don't think that the width of the grip has much influence in the traps involvement.
A little confession. In order to look balanced, I don't perform direct calf and trap exercises. I worry much more about my hamstrings, inner chest, triceps and forearms.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 09, 2013, 08:16:50 AM
I'd put my finger on that.

Haha, well played mr syntax
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 09, 2013, 09:23:16 AM
'root beer floats' and 'hot fudge sundaes'.. great names and I bet they taste good.
I try to avoid sweetened foods & drinks as much as possible and the same goes for beverages. This year, I've prob drank 3-4 milkshakes and 2-3 glasses of wine. I don't miss these foods/drinks that much, but burgers & pizza are a different story.. ;)

Red wine is actually beneficial to your health in moderation.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 09, 2013, 09:26:34 AM
Red wine is actually beneficial to your health in moderation.
X2...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 09, 2013, 09:27:20 AM
Red wine is actually beneficial to your health in moderation.
Oops, I thought this was a PrincessL post...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 09, 2013, 09:29:37 AM
my god my leg are White... ;D my Face is Brown and my arms. I Need to sit outside in Shorts... Typical Scotsman.... ;) ;)

Time to get naked in the sun and put some color on your body Donny. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 09, 2013, 09:30:26 AM
Oops, I thought this was a PrincessL post...

Nope. Just a post from someone who likes wine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 09, 2013, 09:49:59 AM
Red wine is actually beneficial to your health in moderation.

I know, because of the polyphenols and resveratrol. But over here, it's hard to find good & affordable alcohol-free wine.
Grape juice & green tea are good alternatives.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 09, 2013, 09:50:45 AM
Oops, I thought this was a PrincessL post...

I was thinking about Shizzo81  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 09, 2013, 01:01:29 PM
I know, because of the polyphenols and resveratrol. But over here, it's hard to find good & affordable alcohol-free wine.
Grape juice & green tea are good alternatives.

I haven't tried alcohol free wine, so I have no idea of how good or bad it tastes or how much it costs. If I were a teetotaler, which I am not, I would go with grape juice and green tea. Actually, I do drink a fair quantity of green tea, not necessarily because it is supposed to be good for you, but simply because I like it. Unfortunately, I add sugar to my tea. Hey.....no one is perfect!

Where is "over here" at anyway?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 09, 2013, 02:06:02 PM
Got to have milk and sugar in my tea ...British thing...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 09, 2013, 02:41:06 PM
I did this workout today. Back day.

Chins 2 x max
Low cable row with V bar attachment 2 x 12
Single dumbbell row off bench 2 x 10
reverse grip pulldowns 2 x 10

Deadlifts 2 x 4  then 1 x 1
Weighted back extensions 2 x 15 (held 20lbs behind head)
Weighted crunches 1 x 50 reps.

Actually felt a little light headed during deads. I have to make sure I breath completely when straining to complete the lift. Hope it's not a sign of heart trouble.

I was thinking about putting down weight used but it really serves no purpose. My home lat and low row plate loaded machine has so much friction it limits the amount of weight used. When I go to a commercial gym I really up the weight used when I put that pin in the slick operating equipment.

 Also I try to make every exercise as hard as I can make it using a smooth cadence and a full range of motion. I know most guys want to pick up the "big" dumbbells then proceed to make the exercise as easy as they can by short stroking everything. I never saw short stroking back in the day and now if you ask someone why they are doing it they tell you it's injury prevention. I would rather grab the 60lbs dumbbells for shoulder presses and go all the way down than have two guys hand me the 100lbs and do half reps where the elbows (humerus) never break parallel.


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Clavins Dad on July 09, 2013, 03:41:03 PM
3.5 mile brisk walk around my neighborhood. 200 ab crunches. - workout



That sounds pretty hardcore little lady!  You best not tax yourself now :-*
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 09, 2013, 04:47:50 PM
I haven't tried alcohol free wine, so I have no idea of how good or bad it tastes or how much it costs. If I were a teetotaler, which I am not, I would go with grape juice and green tea. Actually, I do drink a fair quantity of green tea, not necessarily because it is supposed to be good for you, but simply because I like it. Unfortunately, I add sugar to my tea. Hey.....no one is perfect!

Where is "over here" at anyway?

A 'teetotaler'.. I've never read this word before, nice one! (thx Google Translate) I'm not a teetotaler either, but I'm pretty sensitive to alcohol. I only drink it when there's a place to sleep. The price of alcohol-free wine is prob high due its limited supply and demand, and the production process. Beer however, is a different story, but I'm not really into beer, other than a few labels.

Some time ago, I bought pure green tea powder, since it's much cheaper than capsules, but never again. It tastes awful and it's like glue, combined with water.  
Maybe you can add some honey instead of sugar? They're still fast carbs, but it's good for your immune system (reference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_honey)).

'Over here' means the Netherlands, so no Costco, Whole Foods or Gold's gym chains ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 09, 2013, 04:51:39 PM
A 'teetotaler'.. I've never read this word before, nice one! (thx Google Translate) I'm not a teetotaler either, but I'm pretty sensitive to alcohol. I only drink it when there's a place to sleep. The price of alcohol-free wine is prob high due its limited supply and demand, and the production process. Beer however, is a different story, but I'm not really into beer, other than a few labels.

Some time ago, I bought pure green tea powder, since it's much cheaper than capsules, but never again. It tastes awful and it's like glue, combined with water.  
Maybe you can add some honey instead of sugar? They're still fast carbs, but it's good for your immune system (reference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_honey)).

'Over here' means the Netherlands, so no Costco, Whole Foods or Gold's gym chains ;)
What's the purpose of Alcohol free drinks to trick your mind into thinking you are drinking the same stuff? Kinda like de-caff coffee whats the purpose to make your teeth brown?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 09, 2013, 04:53:11 PM
Got to have milk and sugar in my tea ...British thing...

LOL, great excuse  ;D
Last year I removed all dairy from my diet, other then some whey & casein powder, both low in lactose.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 09, 2013, 04:54:22 PM
no training tonight......need a day of rest......tomorrow will be shoulders.



smith machine shoulder presses    4 sets

one arm laterals    4 sets

reverse cable flyes  4 sets

db shrugs   3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 09, 2013, 04:56:45 PM
What's the purpose of Alcohol free drinks to trick your mind into thinking you are drinking the same stuff? Kinda like de-caff coffee whats the purpose to make your teeth brown?

Mainly because of my alcohol sensitivity. It would prob be a different story when I drink more frequently.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 09, 2013, 05:35:34 PM
A 'teetotaler'.. I've never read this word before, nice one! (thx Google Translate) I'm not a teetotaler either, but I'm pretty sensitive to alcohol. I only drink it when there's a place to sleep. The price of alcohol-free wine is prob high due its limited supply and demand, and the production process. Beer however, is a different story, but I'm not really into beer, other than a few labels.

Some time ago, I bought pure green tea powder, since it's much cheaper than capsules, but never again. It tastes awful and it's like glue, combined with water.  
Maybe you can add some honey instead of sugar? They're still fast carbs, but it's good for your immune system (reference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_honey)).

'Over here' means the Netherlands, so no Costco, Whole Foods or Gold's gym chains ;)

The Netherlands looks beautiful in pictures and video. It must get really cold there though. I thought people in that part of the world were known to be big drinkers....shows you how much I don't know.

Honey is great stuff; sugar is handier. As long as it is not artificial sweetener, I am fine with it. I am not big on sweets, so a little sugar or honey every now and again isn't going to cause me much grief.

I use a few supplements, like CoQ10 which is good for high cholesterol and Slow Niacin for the same purpose. I also take DHEA which is a legal oral hormone that boosts one's mental capacity and lightens their state of mind. Before and after every workout, I take a Creatine supplement in pill form. Other then these things it's just a daily multi-vitamin and additional vitamin C. Some of these products do come from Costco. Too bad you don't have one where you live. Their prices and choices for protein powder and drinks in really good too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 09, 2013, 05:51:27 PM
I know I said I was going to wait until Saturday before going back to my routine at the gym, but I couldn't stand not going one more day because it was making me nuts. So I told my wife I was going to the gym to see if I could do a light workout. Once I got there, I decided to go full-bore and see what happened. I had a really fantastic workout today.

Hamstrings and calves:

Weight 206 which surprised me since I was 198 the other morning. I must have been dehydrated or something.

Changed things up a bit.

Nautilus hip abduction 3X20-15 @ 90-110
Nautilus hip adduction 3X20-15 @ 120-140
Nautilus lying leg curls 4X12-6 @ 60-80
Nautilus seated leg curls 4X15-8 @ 70-100
Reverse machine hack squats 4X15-8 @ 90-360 added weight
Standing calf raises 6X20-10 @ 200-300 supersets with seated calf raises 4X15-8 @ 90-135
Nautilus leg press calf raises 4X15-10 @ 210-285
Nautilus leg extensions, single leg 4X20-12 @ 50, double leg 1X15@120  (got a real nice burn on these)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 09, 2013, 05:54:10 PM
Got to have milk and sugar in my tea ...British thing...

I really like tea this way too, but I usually crave it in the winter when it is dreary out. For me, milk is half and half or cream when I add it to a beverage. Heck, it is only a tablespoon, if that.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 09, 2013, 06:00:31 PM
I know I said I was going to wait until Saturday before going back to my routine at the gym, but I couldn't stand not going one more day because it was making me nuts. So I told my wife I was going to the gym to see if I could do a light workout. Once I got there, I decided to go full-bore and see what happened. I had a really fantastic workout today.

Hamstrings and calves:

Weight 206 which surprised me since I was 198 the other morning. I must have been dehydrated or something.

Changed things up a bit.

Nautilus hip abduction 3X20-15 @ 90-110
Nautilus hip adduction 3X20-15 @ 120-140
Nautilus lying leg curls 4X12-6 @ 60-80
Nautilus seated leg curls 4X15-8 @ 70-100
Reverse machine hack squats 4X15-8 @ 90-360 added weight
Standing calf raises 6X20-10 @ 200-300 supersets with seated calf raises 4X15-8 @ 90-135
Nautilus leg press calf raises 4X15-10 @ 210-285
Nautilus leg extensions, single leg 4X20-12 @ 50, double leg 1X15@120  (got a real nice burn on these)
hope that knee gets better,,,good ham and calf workout,,do back and hams if u want to split due to quad/knee pain...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 09, 2013, 06:01:28 PM

 Also I try to make every exercise as hard as I can make it using a smooth cadence and a full range of motion. I know most guys want to pick up the "big" dumbbells then proceed to make the exercise as easy as they can by short stroking everything. I never saw short stroking back in the day and now if you ask someone why they are doing it they tell you it's injury prevention. I would rather grab the 60lbs dumbbells for shoulder presses and go all the way down than have two guys hand me the 100lbs and do half reps where the elbows (humerus) never break parallel.

There was this young fellow working out on the machine preacher curl using a ton of weight. I noticed it mainly because he has a really slight build. He was just doing the top half or third of the exercise. He had me lift the weight up to that position for him. Maybe he's building a peak???

Later a fellow with nice full biceps was working out on the Nautilus multi-bicep machine. I couldn't see where he'd pinned the weight but he too was only work the top half of the exercise.

With little exception, I always shoot for full range movements. I have done curls where you superset them in thirds, meaning you lift the bottom third of the movement for reps, then the middle and then the upper third. I think you finish off with some full range reps.....it has be a long time since I've done these. What your opinion about this kind of movement?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 09, 2013, 06:08:05 PM
hope that knee gets better,,,good ham and calf workout,,do back and hams if u want to split due to quad/knee pain...

Thanks for the tip. Although a meniscal tear doesn't heal itself, something has changed because I have nearly zero pain. This was the case yesterday too when I saw the orthopedic surgeon. I think that's why he suggested a follow up visit in six weeks to see how everything was going with my knee. No sense in cutting away the tear if there is no pain and he agreed with this.

He's a super doctor. He replaced one of my wife's knees a few years back. She had much less trouble with this knee replacement then she did with the first one on the other knee using a different doctor.

It was for the knee that I decided to do the leg extensions. They seemed to help when it was hurting, might as well keep doing them. I am going to have giant teardrops to beat out yours someday....remember?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 09, 2013, 06:10:19 PM
3.5 mile brisk walk around my neighborhood. 200 ab crunches. - workout

1 chicken breast with brown rice and broccli for dinner and a protein shake earlier in the day  :D


Your really into this. Good for you. Did you do all 200 ab crunches in one set? My abs would be permanently cramped if I tried this. 25 reps is my limit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 09, 2013, 06:16:33 PM
Mainly because of my alcohol sensitivity. It would prob be a different story when I drink more frequently.

Like you, I am pickier about what beers I will drink then I am about wine. I mainly like dark ales. This usually means imported beer. Of course German beer in Germany is better than anything we have here since all our beer, imported or not, is pasteurized. It has to be by law. The FDA is big on protecting U.S. citizens from themselves. It feels like a police state here sometimes. Don't even get me started on legalizing drugs as opposed to spending billions of $$$$ on drug enforcement which doesn't work.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 09, 2013, 07:21:25 PM
Thanks for the tip. Although a meniscal tear doesn't heal itself, something has changed because I have nearly zero pain. This was the case yesterday too when I saw the orthopedic surgeon. I think that's why he suggested a follow up visit in six weeks to see how everything was going with my knee. No sense in cutting away the tear if there is no pain and he agreed with this.

He's a super doctor. He replaced one of my wife's knees a few years back. She had much less trouble with this knee replacement then she did with the first one on the other knee using a different doctor.

It was for the knee that I decided to do the leg extensions. They seemed to help when it was hurting, might as well keep doing them. I am going to have giant teardrops to beat out yours someday....remember?

;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 09, 2013, 11:25:13 PM
Like you, I am pickier about what beers I will drink then I am about wine. I mainly like dark ales. This usually means imported beer. Of course German beer in Germany is better than anything we have here since all our beer, imported or not, is pasteurized. It has to be by law. The FDA is big on protecting U.S. citizens from themselves. It feels like a police state here sometimes. Don't even get me started on legalizing drugs as opposed to spending billions of $$$$ on drug enforcement which doesn't work.
You can have a beer with Donny and I will have a milkshake with DP. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 10, 2013, 02:53:24 AM
I have no scientific references for this, but I don't think that the width of the grip has much influence in the traps involvement.
A little confession. In order to look balanced, I don't perform direct calf and trap exercises. I worry much more about my hamstrings, inner chest, triceps and forearms.
well if i use a Close grip i am stronger and use more weight because the traps are strongly involved and are very powerful and more so than deltas in an upright pulling Motion. if you say you are using a wide grip to target more "side Del ts" then you are in a way agreeing that the grip does make a difference. i have a book here that tested various trap movements and tested them...

number 1 ex for upper traps was:
dumbbell shrugs with a reading of 585 xemg
Close grip upright rows 568 xemg
Deadlifts (they did not test Deadlifts saying.. because of the Anatomical function of the muscles and the high weight that can be lifted , the Training effect is highly probable.(any Trainer knows it hit traps hard)

so i think using a Close grip is more effective than a wide grip. The Book is "Fitness Krafttraining" ISBN 3-499-19481-3
I have quoted this book on a few occasions because it really Looks at the exercises,tests them and gives a very clear indication of the effects from Prof Wolfgang Buskies Deutschen Sport Hochschule Köln  and Wende-Uwe Boeckh-Behres, Director Institute Sport and studies University Bayreuth.

I also agree with this Video...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 10, 2013, 02:54:42 AM
I also agree with this Video on shrugs...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 10, 2013, 09:09:08 AM
You can have a beer with Donny and I will have a milkshake with DP. 
canīt beat a good German Pils.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 10, 2013, 09:12:15 AM
so i did my legs today..
leg curls(lying) 3x12 SUPERSET with
Leg extensions 3x12

squats 4x10
Stiff legged deads 4x12-15
Standing calf raises(one leg Dumbbell) 4x15-20

i went for a 30 min short hard pace run...felt good as itīs cooler today...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 10, 2013, 09:16:58 AM
so i did my legs today..
leg curls(lying) 3x12 SUPERSET with
Leg extensions 3x12

squats 4x10
Stiff legged deads 4x12-15
Standing calf raises(one leg Dumbbell) 4x15-20

i went for a 30 min short hard pace run...felt good as itīs cooler today...
NICE,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on July 10, 2013, 09:18:07 AM
When shrugging with a extra wide grip (closer to the inside collars) you are getting more of a stretch on the traps, affecting development from a different angle. As when Olympic lifters grip for the snatch, most of the whole diamond shapes traps are affected. Even a grip, where the hands are very close together (almost touching) might be include in a serious trap routine.

One of the better trap mass building movements are power cleans and Hi-pulls, which also affect the whole of the shoulder girdle. Including the rear delts strongly.  Don't have to use massive weight & low reps. The normal BB'ing rep protocol of 8-12 can work extremely well for size and strength. Check out the development of Olympic lifters and thebenefits of these pulls for thick and powerful traps.

Trap bars are very good. Trap bars place the thumbs forward, giving a more natural grip, andreduice tension on the wrist/forearms. DB's, when doing shrugs, will tend to rub against the side of the leg when moving into heavier weight.

The upright row is a favorite exercise for me. Guy's will have problems with it, if raising the bar out and away from the body, giving extra stress on the wrist, elbow and shoulder joints. Try keeping the bar close (almost touching) to the body at all times. Suggest a EZ bar, there are different angles to EZ bars depending on the company who made them.   One arm DB upright rows are exceptional, usually bracing the free arm onto something. Wider the upward arc hits the delts very well also.   Good Luck.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 10, 2013, 09:21:44 AM
NICE,,,
I Keep it pretty simple Steve...just decided to do curls and extensions first then squats...the squats and stiff Deads felt very good although on my run i felt tired in the lower back area. Still being the Zulu Warrior i am... i finished the run.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 10, 2013, 09:23:43 AM
Wife just brought some nice cream and Jammy cakes back...just eating a Calorie Bomb right now with my Coffee... ;D oh well....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 10, 2013, 09:33:35 AM
 :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 10, 2013, 09:36:18 AM
Wife just brought some nice cream and Jammy cakes back...just eating a Calorie Bomb right now with my Coffee... ;D oh well....
LOL!!!!!


SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO ENJOY A TREAT OR TWO!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 10, 2013, 09:38:37 AM
LOL!!!!!


SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO ENJOY A TREAT OR TWO!!!
well i am not a Pro Bodybuilder or anything and i do a fair bit of cardio and together with my split...itīs enough to stay in shape....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 10, 2013, 10:44:52 AM
a good web site...
http://www.davidgentle.com/articles/weights/dumbbells.htm
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 10, 2013, 07:57:25 PM
back
pullups x3 12-15
tbar row under hand grip 2 plates x12,3 plates x10/3 plates x10
hammer pulldown x3
low cable row 180x10,195 x10,200x10
standup pulldown/pullover good stretch finish stand slight bend at waist bar a bit shoulder level then pull to hips x3x10 reps

weighted hypers x3 x12 45 lb plate

bi's premade curl bar widest grip 60 x12/80x10/80x10
inc db curl 30x10/35x10,40x8
seated padded curl x3 closer grip



abs crunches sets 30x3/side leg lift 12 per side x2
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 10, 2013, 08:19:07 PM
Nice. Looking diesel.

No homo.
thank u means a lot,,'no homo'
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 10, 2013, 08:41:18 PM
back

Steve,

We are in sync today. I also worked back.

Weight 204, guess yesterday was a fluke.

I had a busy day today. Maybe this is why I was a little tired when I arrived at the gym. Anyway, my workout was not as inspired as it was yesterday.

Hammer front lat pull downs, 5X15-8 @ 140-260
Nautilus rowing back, 4X12-8 @ 120-160
Hammer low row, 3X12-8 @ 130-200
Nautilus reverse grip pull downs. 2X12-8 @ 131-145 (Pooped out on this one)
Hammer one arm rows, 3X12-8 @ 55-75
Cable straight arm pull downs, 2X12-10 @ 91-104

Not my best, but the best I could do today.

I went crazy working legs yesterday because they are majorly sore today. I shutter to thing how they are going to feel tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 11, 2013, 12:07:57 AM
back
pullups x3 12-15
tbar row under hand grip 2 plates x12,3 plates x10/3 plates x10
hammer pulldown x3
low cable row 180x10,195 x10,200x10
standup pulldown/pullover good stretch finish stand slight bend at waist bar a bit shoulder level then pull to hips x3x10 reps

weighted hypers x3 x12 45 lb plate

bi's premade curl bar widest grip 60 x12/80x10/80x10
inc db curl 30x10/35x10,40x8
seated padded curl x3 closer grip



abs crunches sets 30x3/side leg lift 12 per side x2
Looking great, as always Steve. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 11, 2013, 12:09:10 AM
canīt beat a good German Pils.... ;D
I bet they are huge.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 11, 2013, 03:25:18 AM
I bet they are huge.   ;D
yeah....you know it... ;)so i am off now to Train some nice tight buns on the butt machine...a pleasure to see.... ;D truth is the most are overweight and think by doing such exercises they will get a tight ass...i tell them to just go over to the cardio section... ;) and stop eating Cake like i did yesterday...LOL
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 11, 2013, 03:38:58 AM
yeah....you know it... ;)so i am off now to Train some nice tight buns on the butt machine...a pleasure to see.... ;D truth is the most are overweight and think by doing such exercises they will get a tight ass...i tell them to just go over to the cardio section... ;) and stop eating Cake like i did yesterday...LOL
Yes and don't forget to give them squats and walking lunges too.  That works the glutes and builds them better than any butt machine.  But for a tight ass its going low in bodyfat, while building up the muscle.  Cake is okay occasionally.  I am sure you burned it off Donny.  :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 11, 2013, 09:03:35 AM
tonight's back workout:


db rows    3 sets

machine assisted pull ups   3 sets

techno gym machine pulldowns  3 sets

partial deadlifts   3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 11, 2013, 09:31:10 AM
yeah....you know it... ;)so i am off now to Train some nice tight buns on the butt machine...a pleasure to see.... ;D truth is the most are overweight and think by doing such exercises they will get a tight ass...i tell them to just go over to the cardio section... ;) and stop eating Cake like i did yesterday...LOL

Cheryl, who is one of the trainers are the gym was showing a fellow how to do a type of lunge. Using a piece of equipment much like a Smith squat rack, she had him stand on a box which is about 18" high. With light weight on the bar he stepped back with one leg on the floor into a low lung like position and then back up on the box, alternating legs. When I talked to him he said he could feel it everywhere in his quads, hams, butt, and abs. Anyone ever tried these?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 11, 2013, 09:32:40 AM
yeah....you know it... ;)so i am off now to Train some nice tight buns on the butt machine...a pleasure to see.... ;D truth is the most are overweight and think by doing such exercises they will get a tight ass...i tell them to just go over to the cardio section... ;) and stop eating Cake like i did yesterday...LOL

My butt is flat. Do I need to eat cake Donny? ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 11, 2013, 10:30:41 AM
My butt is flat. Do I need to eat cake Donny? ;D
I'LL GIVE U SOME OF MINE 'NO HOMO' :-*,, :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 11, 2013, 10:51:07 AM
Yes and don't forget to give them squats and walking lunges too.  That works the glutes and builds them better than any butt machine.  But for a tight ass its going low in bodyfat, while building up the muscle.  Cake is okay occasionally.  I am sure you burned it off Donny.  :P
well Steve is the Lunge King on here...but you are correct Karen they work great.. in the Smith machine too. I suppose i am lucky that i have always had nice tight full buns...even without Squats. Today was a good Day. We have a Girl who is partially blind and was talking to me today as i was helping her. She said , i know you from your Red Polo Shirt and my White Long sleeves i have underneath..  she can only see the Red and White clearly and knows itīs me.... ;D also said i hear your Scottish Accent too. Such a sweet Girl. other Trainers just wear red but i wear a Long sleeve White t Shirt underneath because of my Tattoos...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 11, 2013, 10:58:49 AM
so i trained shoulders...

seated back rested Dumbbell press (Hammer Grip) 5x10
seated side laterals 4x12
bent over laterals 4x12
Dumbbell shrugs 3x15

straight sets today as i was being lazy... ;D later at work i threw in a few sets of seated machine press and machine side delt raises just to finish it off...bit of ab training and that was that... i have a brutally hard Job.... :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 11, 2013, 01:06:23 PM
I'LL GIVE U SOME OF MINE 'NO HOMO' :-*,, :D

Thanks for the offer Steve (no homo), but all the fun is in trying to build a bubble butt on my own. Can't wait until I can get back to doing lunges again....I need to work on my balance now that my knee has stopped hurting.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 11, 2013, 01:50:16 PM
Thanks for the offer Steve (no homo), but all the fun is in trying to build a bubble butt on my own. Can't wait until I can get back to doing lunges again....I need to work on my balance now that my knee has stopped hurting.  ;D
do them in the Smith machine then no Need to Balance... do a full set each leg then swap over.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 11, 2013, 02:48:33 PM
do them in the Smith machine then no Need to Balance... do a full set each leg then swap over.
I like them on smith do them all the time...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 11, 2013, 02:52:59 PM
I like them on smith do them all the time...

I am going to give these a try on Saturday when I do my next leg workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 11, 2013, 03:43:02 PM
I am going to give these a try on Saturday when I do my next leg workout.
i like them better than traditional lunges. you can concentrate more on the muscles.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 11, 2013, 04:38:46 PM
I like them on smith do them all the time...
Don't you do lunges walking up stairs?  I seem to recall you something saying about this.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 11, 2013, 07:33:15 PM
Don't you do lunges walking up stairs?  I seem to recall you something saying about this.  
yes,,,do a few versions ,,last week i supersetted hack squats with bar on back and walked lunges,,for few wks i was doing stairs love them too..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 11, 2013, 07:39:02 PM
delts
supersetted hammer machine normally i do not use this machine ,design sucks backrest is angled and no adjustment,,i did 1 arm at a time which on this machine i like better then i did side laterals x4,,
2 nd superset was upright rows with cable raise behind back x3
3rd superset dumbell press with bent over rear lateral raise x2..

shrugs 185/225/275 15/12/12
db shrugs db at sides and pull and pinch traps to neck 85/95's x12

forearms rollup ropes and reverse behind back cable wrist curls

calves standing calf raise 180x15/200 x12,220 x12,240 x12,240 x12
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 11, 2013, 08:13:50 PM
yes,,,do a few versions ,,last week i supersetted hack squats with bar on back and walked lunges,,for few wks i was doing stairs love them too..
I love how you vary your workouts Steve. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 11, 2013, 08:31:03 PM
I love how you vary your workouts Steve. 
karen it works u add movement/exercises/different order every few wks ,something feels good and works keep it in ..people fall in same rut same routine for too long and wonder why nothing changes,either your strenght,condition,stamina,look,something needs to get better or you have to change things...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 11, 2013, 09:15:25 PM
karen it works u add movement/exercises/different order every few wks ,something feels good and works keep it in ..people fall in same rut same routine for too long and wonder why nothing changes,either your strenght,condition,stamina,look,something needs to get better or you have to change things...
Well said.  This needs to go in Gal and No Ones book. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 11, 2013, 09:27:15 PM
Technically, Steve is copying me because he posted up his routine at 10:39 p.m. his time and it is only 9:27p.m. my time and I am about to post up my routine for today....just saying.  ;)

Worked delts, traps and abs today

Weight 207 (comes back face with all the protein shakes)

Hammer delt press, 5X15-3 @ 90-180 (didn't reduce the weight, but also didn't so a many reps on the last two sets as normal).
Nautilus seated side lateral raise, 5-15-8 @ 85-125
Body Masters rear delts, 4X15-8 @ 60-90
Dumbbell side laterals, 4X15-8 @ 10-17.5 ea. side
Hammer shrugs, 4X15-10 @ 90-230
Cable upright rows, 3X15-12 @ 77-104
Fast Track, 1X25 @ 10 lbs. X 3 positions
Nautilus Rotary Torso, 1X25 @ 60 each side
Nautilus ab crunches, 2X25 @ 80-90
Nautilus low back, 2X25 @ 80-90

Nautilus one leg, leg extensions, 5X25-8 @ 50-65 (gotta keep that knee healthy, although my quads were already sore from Tuesday.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 11, 2013, 09:36:44 PM
Well said.  This needs to go in Gal and No Ones book.  

With minor changes here and there, I am back doing the routine I was doing before the bronchitis. I do however add in an exercise here and drop one there, so the routine is always in a state of flux. Right now I am really concentrating on legs working them a little more than normal. When I get them up some, I'll switch to delts or arms.

Maybe it is just me, but Gal and No One seem to be stuck on one thing....the diet thing. I frankly do not believe there is a single diet plan that works for every person. We are all different, what works for them (if it does) may not work for me or you. To lose weight, one must basically burn more calories then they consume. Each day is a different story. Some days folks burn more calories then others which is fine as long as over time you aren't taking in more calories then your losing. If you do less, eat less. These last few weeks I cut out protein drinks and cut back on my food because I was flat out with bronchitis. Now I am eating again. The formula is just that simple for me. Am I oversimplifying it?

Incidentally, I am not trying to look shredded, just fit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 12, 2013, 06:02:10 AM
With minor changes here and there, I am back doing the routine I was doing before the bronchitis. I do however add in an exercise here and drop one there, so the routine is always in a state of flux. Right now I am really concentrating on legs working them a little more than normal. When I get them up some, I'll switch to delts or arms.

Maybe it is just me, but Gal and No One seem to be stuck on one thing....the diet thing. I frankly do not believe there is a single diet plan that works for every person. We are all different, what works for them (if it does) may not work for me or you. To lose weight, one must basically burn more calories then they consume. Each day is a different story. Some days folks burn more calories then others which is fine as long as over time you aren't taking in more calories then your losing. If you do less, eat less. These last few weeks I cut out protein drinks and cut back on my food because I was flat out with bronchitis. Now I am eating again. The formula is just that simple for me. Am I oversimplifying it?

Incidentally, I am not trying to look shredded, just fit.
like me...i want to stay in shape and Keep my weight down. I like to stay fitter than the average 47 year old. I watched my Fathers health decline with Heart Problems...believe me watching your own Father have a heart attack in front of you is not nice. He got so bad he could not walk far without a "breather"... believe me being all round fit is my main Goal and is important. I believe i could still pass an Army BFT(Basic Fitness test) in lightweights and Boots like we used to do.. now they run in Training shoes. Talking of which i will go later for a run. I just did arms at home....

parallel bar Dips 4xmax
lying tricep extensions(ez bar) 4x12 bringing the bar to my forehead to get more medial and lateral Stimulation. you can get more Stretch bringing the bar behind the head for the Long head.
One arm tricep extensions behind head(Db) 4x12 (hitting the Long head)

Seated ez bar preacher curls 4x10
seated DB curls 4x10
Reverse ez bar curls 3x12-15

crunches on floor/bycycle crunches......
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 12, 2013, 06:58:51 AM
To answer the Age old question ....what does a Scotsman wear under his Kilt...?  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2013, 11:59:24 AM
like me...i want to stay in shape and Keep my weight down. I like to stay fitter than the average 47 year old. I watched my Fathers health decline with Heart Problems...believe me watching your own Father have a heart attack in front of you is not nice. He got so bad he could not walk far without a "breather"... believe me being all round fit is my main Goal and is important.

If the desire to be fit is manifested into action, then the results will be there for you in most cases. I have little issue with growing old....like what difference would it make if I did, since it is happening anyway. As long a I am fit, I will be happy. Like you, I am willing to put forth the effort to maintain my fitness. Looking better is just icing on the cake (albeit a cake made from protein powder, LOL).

Like your dad, my wife is on a "breather" assuming you mean oxygen. She is tied to oxygen support 24/7. Without it, she probably wouldn't live very long. She's never had a heart attack, but she has nearly everything else possible wrong with her health. I love her, but I wouldn't trade places with her. I cannot imagine me living like she does. Being healthy, fit and slim has been her lifelong dream. She just never found the way or put in the effort to make it a reality, despite my example. And to be fair, maybe her health would have been poor anyway. We are not all lucky in this respect.

My biological parents were fairly fit although they each had some really bad habits. My mom's main exercise was swimming in her pool or in the ocean when she was younger. Her mainstay diet was coffee and cigarettes. My father was a beanpole. Through most of his 20's he weighed in the 160's and 170's and he was 6' 5" tall. Since I didn't know him after I was 8 years old, I have no idea how he faired physically as he got older. He smoked and drank. He died young of stomach cancer, which might suggest he drank too much. As it stands, I have outlived both my parents as each of them died at 61 years of age.




Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2013, 12:04:09 PM
To answer the Age old question ....what does a Scotsman wear under his Kilt...?  ;D


I've seen this photo before. It is pretty funny. I assume it is not morphed. Traditionally, nothing is worn under a kilt. -Must be nice to not have sweaty balls in the summer.  ;D

Here is another couple of blokes enjoying the breeze.

Ever wonder what a sweet lass wears under her kilt? 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 12, 2013, 07:15:44 PM
45 yrs old july 13 few hrs away jersey time,,,,keep on chiseling as long as father time allows,,,, :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2013, 11:23:44 PM
45 yrs old july 13 few hrs away jersey time,,,,keep on chiseling as long as father time allows,,,, :)

Let me be the first to wish you a happy birthday then. I remember 45, it was a great year. It will be for you too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 13, 2013, 12:40:51 AM
Happy birthday Steve.....all the best to you
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 13, 2013, 01:18:30 AM
a healthy cake for you my friend....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on July 13, 2013, 08:38:27 AM
Steve, congrats on your birthday.  As you know, 45 is the new 25.

Just wondering about the above picture of you. You shown some pretty outstanding forearm development in the past (goose neck pose). This picture show fairly average forearms. Even with a standard pose like that, the forearms should be more impressive...bad lighting? Considering the size of your biceps, and all
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 13, 2013, 09:11:35 AM
Steve, congrats on your birthday.  As you know, 45 is the new 25.

Just wondering about the above picture of you. You shown some pretty outstanding forearm development in the past (goose neck pose). This picture show fairly average forearms. Even with a standard pose like that, the forearms should be more impressive...bad lighting? Considering the size of your biceps, and all
yeah noticed that too,some reason smaller on top area in that shot,,,my inners are thicker it seems ???,,,pretty small wrists as well,,but yeah your observation is merited,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on July 13, 2013, 09:29:47 AM
njFlex

Than I stand corrected. 

Keep that variety of training workouts going, seems to be doing you quite well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 13, 2013, 09:42:39 AM
njFlex

Than I stand corrected. 

Keep that variety of training workouts going, seems to be doing you quite well.
no problem,,i can not stand sensless arguments especially over lifting/bbing what u see or not see,we are all genetically inferior to an extent and need to improve each bodypart from other better body parts to improve and keep the illission intact or moving foward,,it is a never ending process,,one i thoroughly enjoy after 20 or so odd yrs never stopping...the workouts have been refreshing over the normal set in set out ,,or i have this many reps to get or such in such rest times betwwen sets,you have to run the gammit or body will become complacent..you have been ok to me thus far and have not directed anything unwarranted that i would not consider as fact or not in terms of my training or build...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on July 13, 2013, 09:54:26 AM
njFlex

When you loose that hunger in the belly and workouts become more like labor, than fun, it's just about over. Switching up, like you do, most always gives renewed interest to training. It can be a life time journey, where BB'ing is concerned. We should all be enjoying the ride.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 13, 2013, 10:02:13 AM
njFlex

When you loose that hunger in the belly and workouts become more like labor, than fun, it's just about over. Switching up, like you do, most always gives renewed interest to training. It can be a life time journey, where BB'ing is concerned. We should all be enjoying the ride.
this true man,,,,by taking the drug equation out it at least keeps the up/downs out of the picture,the depression from being i was bigger/harder/fuller/better and doing cycle to cyle or yrs/decades,2nd part is as a clean lifter u stay the same give or take how lean you want or softer as u try to gain as a clean/natural and how boring that could be as well but u have to chose a road,the 1st road i did and got off just because the reason i knew and still know guys using 'stuff for 2 decades,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 13, 2013, 11:39:23 AM
oh God he is back... ::)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 13, 2013, 11:55:19 AM
This is an exercise that few seem to do now and an almost forgotten Variation of lunges. I use Dumbbells when i do These.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 13, 2013, 02:15:26 PM
this true man,,,,by taking the drug equation out it at least keeps the up/downs out of the picture,the depression from being i was bigger/harder/fuller/better and doing cycle to cyle or yrs/decades,2nd part is as a clean lifter u stay the same give or take how lean you want or softer as u try to gain as a clean/natural and how boring that could be as well but u have to chose a road,the 1st road i did and got off just because the reason i knew and still know guys using 'stuff for 2 decades,,,

-Good choice! Loading up on roids and other PED's may work for awhile because our bodies can take a fair bit of punishment and still do okay, but more and more often we see folks literally dying to get big or stay big. That's just crazy shit.

Moderation and variety are key to longevity and success in being forever fit. At 45 you look excellent. In fact you look great for a man of any age. Clearly, you don't need artificial means to achieve success, you already have it.

Yeah I know from experience that for some folks, like me, a little boost early on from some PED's will get you over the hump and keep you there long after you've moved on to bodybuilding more naturally. And I cannot really claim to be natural since I am on TRT, albeit a miniscule dosage.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 13, 2013, 02:36:02 PM
nothing against people who use drugs but not for me thank you ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 13, 2013, 03:01:18 PM
There are guys that cycle on an off for decades. When they quit due to health, finances or arrest they all look like crap. Nothing is lower than a guy who denies using because he wants all the credit for his physique.

Maybe it's just me but I can't understand how looking buff is so important to your self esteem that you would risk health by sticking a syringe in your ass so another guy can say your arms are looking good.  I train with nothing. I won't be able to come in last in a small contest but I will look in shape and healthy. I think bodybuilding fans have a warped thoughts on what a good physique is. I was watching a MMA fight with a leaned conditioned physique and a bodybuilding fan said he doesn't even look like he trains.

I'm slowing down in my mid 50's and I know if I did a cycle I could get my photos preserved for ever. What's important is how you look every day and not photos at the end of a cycle.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 13, 2013, 03:08:26 PM
There are guys that cycle on an off for decades. When they quit due to health, finances or arrest they all look like crap. Nothing is lower than a guy who denies using because he wants all the credit for his physique.

Maybe it's just me but I can't understand how looking buff is so important to your self esteem that you would risk health by sticking a syringe in your ass so another guy can say your arms are looking good.  I train with nothing. I won't be able to come in last in a small contest but I will look in shape and healthy. I think bodybuilding fans have a warped thoughts on what a good physique is. I was watching a MMA fight with a leaned conditioned fighter and a bodybuilding fan said he doesn't even look like he trains.

I'm slowing down in my mid 50's and I know if I did a cycle I could get my photos preserved for ever. What's important is how you look every day and not at the end of a cycle.
great post...it's about quality of life and being fit later in life too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 13, 2013, 03:09:09 PM
Friday I worked chest.

Weight 208 (seem to be getting right back up there).

Feeling really sore from both the back and deltoid workouts, so I decided to use more Nautilus equipment then usual.

Nautilus flat bench press, 5X15-8 @ 90-150
Nautilus incline bench press, 4X12-6 @ 90-145
Hammer decline press, 5X15-6 @ 90-180
Nautilus dips, 3X12-8 @ 135-175
Nautilus fly, 4X15-6 @ 60-120
Nautilus pullovers, 3X15-10 @ 120-140
Body Masters fly, 3X15-12 @ 80

Felt pretty good and finished in 45 minutes. Not too sore today either.

Not going to workout on Saturday or Sunday this time, in fact I may do this for the rest of the summer just to have more time for other things during our great summer weather. Worked in the yard so far today. It will be a challenge for me to figure out my routine on this schedule, but I think I can handle it okay. My quads are still tender from the extra leg extensions I did this week. I may try some lunges out front on the sidewalk just to give the neighbors a show.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 13, 2013, 03:23:51 PM
Ran 2 miles in the heat today. Then I drank beer by the pool. Going to start being serious on Monday. Okay maybe the week after.  ;D  I really want to do good in a charity 5K road race in September.  I will be slim but hopefully muscular in great running shape. I'm finished I think with the perma bulker look. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 13, 2013, 03:28:22 PM
There are guys that cycle on an off for decades. When they quit due to health, finances or arrest they all look like crap. Nothing is lower than a guy who denies using because he wants all the credit for his physique.

Maybe it's just me but I can't understand how looking buff is so important to your self esteem that you would risk health by sticking a syringe in your ass so another guy can say your arms are looking good.  I train with nothing. I won't be able to come in last in a small contest but I will look in shape and healthy. I think bodybuilding fans have a warped thoughts on what a good physique is. I was watching a MMA fight with a leaned conditioned fighter and a bodybuilding fan said he doesn't even look like he trains.

I'm slowing down in my mid 50's and I know if I did a cycle I could get my photos preserved for ever. What's important is how you look every day and not at the end of a cycle.

I completely agree with everything you've said.

The hard truth is that once a person gets away from the hardcore bodybuilding scene and among regular fit people, they start to realize looking like Cutler or some others not only isn't normal, doing what they have to do to get there, isn't healthy.

I just want to be fit. At 68 years of age, I am not likely going to be seen in public in a banana hammock anytime soon. Some guys keep competing forever it seems and if that makes them happy, well then good for them. I never competed and I likely never will because that's never been my goal.

I do think it is important to differentiate between someone doing a bodybuilding cycle and someone who actually needs some help being fit. Not to make excuses, but my first "cycle" and a couple after that were at the suggestion of my parents' family physician because I was so puny. It had nothing to do with bodybuilding. In fact the doctor never mentioned bodybuilding or weight training to me back then when I was 16. I wish he had, I probably would have benefited from it had I started with the weights a bit earlier. I've only done two short cycles as an adult and a person who lifts, one at 29 with a doctor's prescription and one several years ago using the same low dose the doctor prescribed, although I purchased the D-bol on my own.

As luck would have it (maybe bad luck in this case), I suffer from low testosterone levels today. I may have had this condition for years and never knew it because my doctors never thought to check. Anyway, I am currently on TRT and I would imagine will be for the rest of my life. This means I am not "natural" in the literal sense when it comes to bodybuilding, but it hardly means I am doing drugs to get huge either.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 13, 2013, 03:39:55 PM
thank you donny/jay/old timer for kind words ,,,i made a smart descision early to quit the drug scene,i have a load of respect and envy for anyone who could use and have great lines and build and be lucky to come out of it ok,but those are few too mention,most get fat/skinny/quit lifting and lose 'why they picked up a barbell/dumbell in the 1st place'...so on my birthday other than detail my car i did what any other hot blooded american male would do i did 'legs' :-X,,,, :D..

quads warm up extensions 195x12,205 x12,220x12,230x12,250x12
leg press 5 platesx12,6x10,7x8,7x8
squat feet close 225x12,275x10,315x10
lunges to the steps 45 each hand up/down/up/down flight 2x

hams sldl barbell 135x12,185x10,235x10
lying leg curl 155 2x10
seat leg curl 180x10/195x10

calves seated calf raise 3 plates x20,3.5 plates x15 mixed in some half reps bottom part to midway squeeze and top part to like doing 21's for bi's,set 3 was same with 10ls extra,set 4 was just 2 plates for 20 but did true 21's 5 full,5 from top portion,5 from bottom ,then 5 full to finish,,
standing calf raise 200 on stack sets 3x12 hard pump by now ;D,,,,

went home 2 scoops choc whey/banana/blueberries/ice/water/peanut butter teaspoon mix well  :),,,delicious so to speak..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 13, 2013, 05:44:24 PM
Happy Birthday Steve!!!! 

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Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 13, 2013, 07:02:54 PM
This has nothing to do with anything on this board but I went to my Toyota dealer for routine maintenance. Basically an oil change and tire rotation. They do some courtesy stuff like fill your windshield wiper fluid container. The guy at the counter asks my name. He doesn't have a clue who I am but I remember him.  He punches my name in the computer then he starts talking about my girl in college. The only reason he knew that was because of a note he put into the computer. I guess it's good public relations to pretend you know people.  I get my car back looking at the paper work in the parking lot and it says something like 60 point service inspection. One checked box says filled windshield fluid. So I look in it and it's close to empty. Then I look at my tires knowing how one has a very slight mark on it and guess what? No rotation. The oil was changed though but I wonder if they bothered to change the filter?  I drove home  20 miles away and then notice the oil maintenance light wasn't turned off.

Keeping it bodybuilding related I was so pissed off I had a good leg workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 13, 2013, 07:09:31 PM
This has nothing to do with anything on this board but I went to my Toyota dealer for routine maintenance. Basically an oil change and tire rotation. They do some courtesy stuff like fill your windshield wiper fluid container. The guy at the counter asks my name. He doesn't have a clue who I am but I remember him.  He punches my name in the computer then he starts talking about my girl in college. The only reason he knew that was because of a note he put into the computer. I guess it's good public relations to pretend you know people.  I get my car back looking at the paper work in the parking lot and it says something like 60 point service inspection. One checked box says filled windshield fluid. So I look in it and it's close to empty. Then I look at my tires knowing how one has a very slight mark on it and guess what? No rotation. The oil was changed though but I wonder if they bothered to change the filter?  I drove home  20 miles away and then notice the oil maintenance light wasn't turned off.

Keeping it bodybuilding related I was so pissed off I had a good leg workout.
i work as an advisor for volvo dealer and i would have been infuriated and drove back to have light shutoff and check fluids again!!!did they have upsell or future repairs noted.i have customers come back that day or day after and i have to eat crow,even if tech screwed up,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 13, 2013, 09:41:37 PM
This has nothing to do with anything on this board but I went to my Toyota dealer for routine maintenance. Basically an oil change and tire rotation. They do some courtesy stuff like fill your windshield wiper fluid container. The guy at the counter asks my name. He doesn't have a clue who I am but I remember him.  He punches my name in the computer then he starts talking about my girl in college. The only reason he knew that was because of a note he put into the computer. I guess it's good public relations to pretend you know people.  I get my car back looking at the paper work in the parking lot and it says something like 60 point service inspection. One checked box says filled windshield fluid. So I look in it and it's close to empty. Then I look at my tires knowing how one has a very slight mark on it and guess what? No rotation. The oil was changed though but I wonder if they bothered to change the filter?  I drove home  20 miles away and then notice the oil maintenance light wasn't turned off.

Keeping it bodybuilding related I was so pissed off I had a good leg workout.

Lesson....don't trust the dealership. I have used the same mechanic for over 20 years. He's someone I trust and he's qualified to do warranty work. My vehicle is long ago out of warranty and still runs great, thanks to his attention to detail.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 13, 2013, 11:51:22 PM
oh God he is back... ::)

Haha if it's not  a gimmick pretending to be a girl then it's your favourite poster reappearing.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 14, 2013, 01:16:11 AM
Haha if it's not  a gimmick pretending to be a girl then it's your favourite poster reappearing.  
yeah funny... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 14, 2013, 05:50:08 PM
celebrated birthday 2 day the 14th with kids and wife after going to casino w/sis/mom i lost btw,,,had some mint cookie ice cream cake,,,day off training ...thanks again for all the well wishes and booty's card was nice ,,,she's a cool gal,,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 14, 2013, 09:44:20 PM
celebrated birthday 2 day the 14th with kids and wife after going to casino w/sis/mom i lost btw,,,had some mint cookie ice cream cake,,,day off training ...thanks again for all the well wishes and booty's card was nice ,,,she's a cool gal,,,,,

Pretty good, a two day birthday celebration. Personally, I don't gamble. This might be the only vice I escaped....LOL!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 15, 2013, 09:53:01 AM
CHEST ATTACK !! ;D

seated machine flyes 3x12 Superset with
seated machine press 3x6-10
Incline DB flyes 3x12 Superset with
Smith machine incline press 3x6-10
push ups on floor Superset with Dips between 2 benches 1xmax....finished !

machine crunches 3x15+

30 mins interval on bike
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 15, 2013, 05:57:17 PM
Just got home from my monthly board meeting and it is nearly dinnertime. Each month when I have this meeting, I think I am going to make it to the gym afterwards, but I never have yet. Guess I should just accept that it is a day lost. That's okay though, I'll hit quads tomorrow. My only meeting is a breakfast meeting at 10:00 a.m. and that won't interfere with gym time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 15, 2013, 08:03:34 PM
chest non super set back to a basic routine but worked quickly...

fdb press 60x12/70x10/75 x8/75 till failure ,,last set still at failure forced last one still little hitch in l/s shoulder ,,need 80/85's again soon :P..
inc db press 55x10/60x8/60x8
hammer press 2 plates x12,2.5 x11.2.5x10
cable crossovers x3
inc flyes 35x10/45x10/45x10

tri's
overhead cable ropes x3
pushdowns 130x12/140x10/140x8 drop to 100 for 8 more..
dip machine 190x10/200x9/200x9
lying dumbell extension 30x10.30x8 drop to 20 till failure,30 x6 drop to 20 6 more,,

abs..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 15, 2013, 08:51:46 PM
chest non super set back to a basic routine but worked quickly...

fdb press 60x12/70x10/75 x8/75 till failure ,,last set still at failure forced last one still little hitch in l/s shoulder ,,need 80/85's again soon :P..
inc db press 55x10/60x8/60x8
hammer press 2 plates x12,2.5 x11.2.5x10
cable crossovers x3
inc flyes 35x10/45x10/45x10

tri's
overhead cable ropes x3
pushdowns 130x12/140x10/140x8 drop to 100 for 8 more..
dip machine 190x10/200x9/200x9
lying dumbell extension 30x10.30x8 drop to 20 till failure,30 x6 drop to 20 6 more,,

abs..
From your squat #'s I thought you'd be stronger.
Unless I missed something.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 16, 2013, 02:01:04 AM
nice Day today.. bit of a breeze. i will Train back and then go for a short fast run around the streets, some nice Girls running around... ;D turning into a Dirty old man....he he... :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 16, 2013, 03:22:03 AM
From your squat #'s I thought you'd be stronger.
Unless I missed something.
no you didn't miss something,,,legs and back are my prime strenght bodyparts i push bigger weights there,chest for me genetically is a very good 'vanity'bodypart i do a lot of volume and pumping ,,i was never a get under bench type and push and rattle the 45's to know end,i got over that quick my body just didn't have tendon strenght and leverage for it,i'm jealous of thos guys 3 plates and more on bench cool to see,,settled for the 'look'more so,,,on the machines i push some decents weight or move the stack,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 16, 2013, 06:18:26 AM
so back was trained today...

Sternum chins 3xmax
one arm DB rows 4x10
Deadlifts 5x10-5
BB Close grip upright rows 4x10

Ab crunches on floor superset with leg raises
30 min run ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 16, 2013, 06:20:34 AM
no you didn't miss something,,,legs and back are my prime strenght bodyparts i push bigger weights there,chest for me genetically is a very good 'vanity'bodypart i do a lot of volume and pumping ,,i was never a get under bench type and push and rattle the 45's to know end,i got over that quick my body just didn't have tendon strenght and leverage for it,i'm jealous of thos guys 3 plates and more on bench cool to see,,settled for the 'look'more so,,,on the machines i push some decents weight or move the stack,,,
well you do OK Steve judging by your pics so you have tuned in to what YOUR Body Needs...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 16, 2013, 09:14:51 AM
well you do OK Steve judging by your pics so you have tuned in to what YOUR Body Needs...
yeah,,,i see what he was asking ,,cannot be a beast on every movement.still in flat position have some resistance from l/s shoulder still sticks/gets tired out at certain/weight /reps.i'm healed 90/95 pct still trying to get 80/90's back better than 25/40's I was doing for wks at the worst point,,i kmow on a viual standpoint I look strong,but everyone has peaks,limitations,set point max strength limit .not meltdown nor excuse just facts,and I train especially after injury a bit more cautious and not push joints anymore,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 16, 2013, 09:37:39 AM
no you didn't miss something,,,legs and back are my prime strenght bodyparts i push bigger weights there,chest for me genetically is a very good 'vanity'bodypart i do a lot of volume and pumping ,,i was never a get under bench type and push and rattle the 45's to know end,i got over that quick my body just didn't have tendon strenght and leverage for it,i'm jealous of thos guys 3 plates and more on bench cool to see,,settled for the 'look'more so,,,on the machines i push some decents weight or move the stack,,,
I understand that, just a huge difference from squatting 4 plates for reps and benching 75# db's.
I think you go for the health look anyway though, right?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 16, 2013, 11:03:26 AM
I understand that, just a huge difference from squatting 4 plates for reps and benching 75# db's.
I think you go for the health look anyway though, right?
currently 75's ,prior to getting hurt 90's its not that much difference in the grand scheme.like I said my legs and back have more I guess explosive nature for strength,i like to be ripped or 'health'look lol,,,I DO A LOT OF VOLUME WORK SO BEING STRONGEST IN GYM TO SOME EXTENT ...isn't my only goal.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 16, 2013, 02:50:35 PM
currently 75's ,prior to getting hurt 90's its not that much difference in the grand scheme.like I said my legs and back have more I guess explosive nature for strength,i like to be ripped or 'health'look lol,,,I DO A LOT OF VOLUME WORK SO BEING STRONGEST IN GYM TO SOME EXTENT ...isn't my only goal.
Plus you are getting up there in age..... ;D

What are you deadlifting these days?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 16, 2013, 02:56:13 PM
Plus you are getting up there in age..... ;D

What are you deadlifting these days?
DON'T DEAD LIKE U STIFF LEGGED FOR HAMS ONLY,,YEAH JUST TURNED 45 :-*,,,AS LONG AS I LOOK GOOD ON THE BEACH WITH MY KIDS NEXT TO THE REAL '45'YR OLD OLD MEN....GUTS/HAIRY/MUSCLE TONE OF BARNEY,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 16, 2013, 06:13:21 PM
Worked quads today.

Weight 208

Nautilus leg extensions 6X20-6 @ 126-166
Leg press 6X25-8 @ 200-700
Machine hack squats 3X12-8 @ machine weight to 180
kickback lunges 3X10 ea. side @ 90-250 (still need to take a photo of this machine).

Did not work calve because, I'll work them on Thursday with hams.

Hot and humid today. Cloudy hazy most of the day with temps up around 90 degrees Fahrenheit. It is so humid it actually sprinkled a little today. Thunderstorms expected tonight. -Threat of fire because of the lightning. All in all, crap weather. At least the gym is air-conditioned.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 17, 2013, 12:51:51 AM
Quality post as usual, particularly the part about the importance of tendon strength and leverage. Moving big weights doesn't always equate to having a great physique. Being strong doesn't hurt but it isn't necessarily everything when it comes to BB.
Exactly ! if just mindlessly pushing mammoth weights was all that was needed we would all be Monsters. You can make 75s very heavy if you know what you are doing. Better to look in shape than a fat bloated mess.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 17, 2013, 05:08:13 AM
Where did Booty go as last I heard she was back into training.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 17, 2013, 11:33:38 AM
Where did Booty go as last I heard she was back into training.
Karen is still around.... ;D so i trained shoulders today...

Pre exhaust.....
Machine side raises 4x12 with
Seated machine press 4x10

Seated machine reverse fly 4x12 with
Standing barbell front raises 4x10

i finished off with Dumbbell shrugs 3x15

Ab crunches (feet on bench) superset with Reverse crunches on a flat bench 3x to failure.... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 17, 2013, 12:05:08 PM
Karen is still around.... ;D so i trained shoulders today...

Pre exhaust.....
Machine side raises 4x12 with
Seated machine press 4x10

Seated machine reverse fly 4x12 with
Standing barbell front raises 4x10

i finished off with Dumbbell shrugs 3x15

Ab crunches (feet on bench) superset with Reverse crunches on a flat bench 3x to failure.... ;)
Nice pre-ehaust style ala Mike Mentzer.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 17, 2013, 01:18:14 PM
Nice pre-ehaust style ala Mike Mentzer.
really?  ;D was not on purpose
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 17, 2013, 03:29:01 PM
karen  we love you  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 17, 2013, 03:30:00 PM
karen  we love you  ;D
X2 come back here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 17, 2013, 04:57:01 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 17, 2013, 06:53:38 PM
Did we implement an age limit for this thread? What qualifies as mature?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 17, 2013, 07:03:19 PM
Did we implement an age limit for this thread? What qualifies as mature?

I suspect Donny meant it as one's emotional and intellectual maturity level and not simply their age. On the other hand, I may be too old for this thread.... ;D ;D ;D.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 17, 2013, 08:32:42 PM
Sorry njflex, you'll have to put back up your workout, I had to split/delete some posts and it was in the middle.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 17, 2013, 08:35:29 PM
Sorry njflex, you'll have to put back up your workout, I had to split/delete some posts and it was in the middle.
:-\,,too long to retype,,i keep no log,,, train and later with good memory post weight/reps and time frame...i  will repost tommorrow after delt day..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 17, 2013, 08:36:29 PM
:-\,,too long to retype,,i keep no log,,, train and later with good memory post weight/reps and time frame...i  will repost tommorrow after delt day..
:(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 17, 2013, 08:36:50 PM
donny i know u mean well...... :).
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 17, 2013, 08:38:52 PM
donny i know u mean well...... :).
;D yes i do
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 17, 2013, 08:41:02 PM
OK, I was able to back browser and find it. 8)


Njflex workout for today
Quote
back
underhnd chins 2x 12-15
side grip chins x2 12-15
bent over rows 135x12/185x10/225x10
wide curved bar low pully rows 160x10/170x10/170x10  ,,wide bar tough pulls and widens the lats as they get to finish movement
hammer pulldowns usually underhand but they have a side grip so palms face each other 45 and 25 x10 single arm and mix with both each few reps,2nd set 45 and 25 and ten x10.3rd set 45 and 25 and 10/5 added x10
finish t bar row standiing version chest on pad 2 45's underhand grip 3x10

lower back hypers 45 plate x3 x12

bi's did superset workout
straight bar curls set 1 75x10 and 35 db curls x10,set 2 85x10 and 40 lb db x10,set 3 95 x10 and 40z8
seated curl machine 125x10 with inc db curl 30x10,140x10 and inc db curl 35x8,140 x10 and inc db 35 x8


abs sets 30 x4 crunches feet up on bench body on floor ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 17, 2013, 08:45:32 PM
OK, I was able to back browser and find it. 8)


Njflex workout for today
viola...good man big c....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 18, 2013, 04:13:16 AM
chaos has no brain...
He just flips tires all he knows. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 18, 2013, 05:02:06 AM
Where the hell is Booty?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 18, 2013, 06:50:17 AM
Where the hell is Booty?
she is ok wrote with her today on facebook ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 18, 2013, 09:00:30 AM
legs:


leg extensions    5 sets


smith machine squats  4 sets


romanian deadlifts   3 sets


seated calf raises  5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 18, 2013, 09:19:14 AM
Exactly ! if just mindlessly pushing mammoth weights was all that was needed we would all be Monsters. You can make 75s very heavy if you know what you are doing. Better to look in shape than a fat bloated mess.
excellent post!!!! spot on!!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 18, 2013, 10:18:36 AM
I want to do booty she left damn.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 18, 2013, 11:45:14 AM
legs:


leg extensions    5 sets


smith machine squats  4 sets


romanian deadlifts   3 sets


seated calf raises  5 sets
nice George... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 18, 2013, 11:46:03 AM
I want to do booty she left damn.
yes she is  ;D she has not left
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Clavins Dad on July 18, 2013, 11:58:26 AM
,,i keep no log,,,

can't you guys leave her alone >:(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 18, 2013, 12:22:47 PM
can't you guys leave her alone >:(
;D,,,sick fuk clavin,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 18, 2013, 12:51:11 PM
So Whats with Jay? Where is he?....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 18, 2013, 01:17:23 PM
So Whats with Jay? Where is he?....
Said he has been sick.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 18, 2013, 01:21:06 PM
Said he has been sick.
oh ok ...hope he s ok ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2013, 02:52:04 PM
So Whats with Jay? Where is he?....

Where am I? Do you mean since yesterday when I last posted on the Mature thread? Are you having a mature (senior) moment, Donny?

I've been back at the gym for over a week. My workouts are going well. I am pretty much over the bronchitis and aside from a little bit of an upset stomach, which I assume is from the antibiotic, I feel good. My legs are sore from Tuesday's workout which makes me happy because they don't always get sore, so I never know if I am doing enough to get them to grow....like Steve's.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2013, 03:04:40 PM
Apparently when Chaos deleted posts yesterday, he also deleted my workout post.

Yesterday arms

Weight 207

Seated alternate dumbbell curls: 5X15-8
Triceps press-downs, 6X15-6
Cable EZ curl, 4X12-8
Flex triceps machine, 4X15-8
Nautilus multi biceps, 3X15-10
Nautilus triceps press downs, 3X15-10
Nautilus 4 way wrist machine 4X15
Cable reverse curls 3X12-8

I left off the resistance because it did not change from my last arm work out a month ago, which is a good thing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2013, 03:06:53 PM
oh ok ...hope he s ok ...

Actually, I also weighed in on the little tiff between you and Chaos yesterday, but my posts have been deleted. I see no reason to resurrect them and the argument. Better to let it rest.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 18, 2013, 04:36:10 PM
I want to do booty she left damn.
I haven't left.  I am still here.  Just been too slack to post up my training.  I am enjoying reading everybody elses training posts and dribble.   ;D  But I need to post more.  Okay I will start now... :P  I got up on monday at 5.30am and went for an hours cardio at 6am.  It was still dark outside and slightly raining.  I still wore my sunnies though even though I couldn't see HAHA  I actually did because I knew that in 15 mins the sun would be shining...yes even in winter.  I haven't trained since monday as I have had pms and upping my B6.  I have noticed that I feel very tired leading up to my period.  I bet you all left now  HAHA   ;D  But seriously this pms sucks big time.  I have had around 6 X the daily amount of B6 to reduce my breast tenderness and size and hopefully fluid retention that is building in my thighs and abdomin.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 18, 2013, 04:49:25 PM
B6 helps serotoin and the nervous system. And I would assume PMS not sure on that never had it  ;D. But good to hear you are back into doing some walking and such. I remember Bonsai beach at 6am still got the pics. I never been to Qeensland but the Sydney blokes crack on it. I am sure its ok are there many Abo's there.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: TightBody on July 18, 2013, 04:53:25 PM
3 mile run outside, 200 crunches, thinking of running/jogging/walking a marathon soon. :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 18, 2013, 05:05:28 PM
B6 helps serotoin and the nervous system. And I would assume PMS not sure on that never had it  ;D. But good to hear you are back into doing some walking and such. I remember Bonsai beach at 6am still got the pics. I never been to Qeensland but the Sydney blokes crack on it. I am sure its ok are there many Abo's there.
It's supose to eliminate fluid retention and breast tenderness/swelling.  My nervous system is fine...I don't feel moody or down or anything.  I just hate the phsyical symptons from pms.  I have been back training for a while now.  I have to add that my nose is doing fantastic.  I still have some swelling but its not much and my bridge is narrower which is what I wanted, as i didn't want to resemble a while aborigine.   ;D  I also have noticed that when I wear my sunnies it's not leaving such a mark on the bridge of my nose as it was.  So that is an indication that swelling is decreasing.  Training wise, swelling is not increasing.  I always have some but it never changes with anything that I do.  So I am very happy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 18, 2013, 05:32:05 PM
B6 effects serotoin and the nervous system probably why you fell better taking it. Good to hear you are ok. I remember walking on Bonsai at 6:00 am still got the pics.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 18, 2013, 05:41:06 PM
Seriously?! We're discussing PMS here?
Yes because it affects me and my training every single month.  Hormones play a massive role with how you feel...energy levels etc.  I am a female and pms makes me feel like utter crap for a week to a week and a half leading up to my period.  I had pms for two weeks recently and that is what made me go and seek out the B6 because that is affecting me for way too long.  I can't even fit my bras including my sports bra so how am I supose to exercise?  The heaviness and pain associated with it is enough to make me feel miserable.  You men are lucky...you only have to deal with pms and constant bitching 365 days of the year  ;D  HAHA  get it?  Its a joke 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 18, 2013, 05:44:28 PM
B6 effects serotoin and the nervous system probably why you fell better taking it. Good to hear you are ok. I remember walking on Bonsai at 6:00 am still got the pics.

I am more than okay.  I went to a beauty seminar last night and won something.  So I am happy.   :)  Alot of people walk on the beaches very early mornings here.  I think early mornings and afternoons around 5pm are best for beach walks.  It's not hot then and better for the skin.  Hows your training been?  Have you been getting out much to ride your bike??
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 18, 2013, 05:48:25 PM
Apparently when Chaos deleted posts yesterday, he also deleted my workout post.


Oops. If I'd have known I would have found it and reposted.
My bad.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 18, 2013, 05:51:26 PM
I am more than okay.  I went to a beauty seminar last night and won something.  So I am happy.   :)  Alot of people walk on the beaches very early mornings here.  I think early mornings and afternoons around 5pm are best for beach walks.  It's not hot then and better for the skin.  Hows your training been?  Have you been getting out much to ride your bike??
What did you win? Training is ok I always lift heavy. Yea rode the bike yesterday, I always feel as my dad is riding with me on the back he gave it to me now he is dead so kinda weird.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Clavins Dad on July 18, 2013, 06:10:13 PM
3 mile run outside, 200 crunches, thinking of running/jogging/walking a marathon soon. :D

How do your hormones affect your training TightBody?   Do your breasts swell so much you can't fit into your bras?  are they tender?   And what about your thighs?  Do they swell like your succulent bosom?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 18, 2013, 06:31:24 PM
Yup. I know your female. The pics made that pretty clear. My compliments.  ;D
Lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2013, 06:39:35 PM
Oops. If I'd have known I would have found it and reposted.
My bad.

Not to worry. They don't change that much and I still remembered what I'd done. Amazing isn't it? I can still remember something the next day and I am about to be 69 years old....well in a little over a month. And no 69 jokes please.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 18, 2013, 06:56:21 PM
What did you win? Training is ok I always lift heavy. Yea rode the bike yesterday, I always feel as my dad is riding with me on the back he gave it to me now he is dead so kinda weird.
I won the VIP membership to a beauty clinic worth $100.  I get free beauty treatments every season and 10 Per Cent off everything all year round.  I go there anyway so it will come in handy.   :)  I know you mentioned your dad and how you feel as though he is riding with you when ever you take the bike out.  It's good that this keeps your memory alive of him and he probably is with you in soul.  If you are spirtual which I know that you are then you would know he's with you, especially when you take the bike out.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 18, 2013, 06:57:36 PM
Yup. I know your female. The pics made that pretty clear. My compliments.  ;D
Thank you and feel free to share anything you like here.  We discuss training and also banter back and forth, as we are a close group. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 18, 2013, 06:58:28 PM
Not to worry. They don't change that much and I still remembered what I'd done. Amazing isn't it? I can still remember something the next day and I am about to be 69 years old....well in a little over a month. And no 69 jokes please.  ;D
That's all you are going to get Jay.....jokes about 69'ers.   :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 18, 2013, 07:00:12 PM
How do your hormones affect your training TightBody?   Do your breasts swell so much you can't fit into your bras?  are they tender?   And what about your thighs?  Do they swell like your succulent bosom?
Clavins Dad...how's your sausage hanging lately??  To the left or to the right??  Welcome aboard to the mature bunch.  I hope you are 40 plus? 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 18, 2013, 07:53:32 PM
delts..
 front press 135x12/155x10/165x8/145x10
seated db side laterals 25x12/25x12/30x10/30x10
fr raise under hand grip with pre made curl bar inner grip 40x12/50x12/60x10
rear bent raises db 30x12/35x10/40x10
2 sets finish 12 reps behind neck press on smith seated no backrest

shrugs 185x12/225x12/275x10/315 a hard 8 :P,,drop to 225 8 more,,,

forearms reverse cable curls and weighted rope rollups
calves standing calf raise 180x20/220x12/240x12/240x10,200x12
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 18, 2013, 08:27:26 PM
I won the VIP membership to a beauty clinic worth $100.  I get free beauty treatments every season and 10 Per Cent off everything all year round.  I go there anyway so it will come in handy.   :)  I know you mentioned your dad and how you feel as though he is riding with you when ever you take the bike out.  It's good that this keeps your memory alive of him and he probably is with you in soul.  If you are spirtual which I know that you are then you would know he's with you, especially when you take the bike out.  
Cool damn I wish I had free beauty treatments you are still hot. Yea I got two motorcycles from my dad. Yea meditation keeps me calm. You seen anything around there? I am going to smoke a cigarette now.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=484801.225
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 18, 2013, 08:34:17 PM
delts..
 front press 135x12/155x10/165x8/145x10
seated db side laterals 25x12/25x12/30x10/30x10
fr raise under hand grip with pre made curl bar inner grip 40x12/50x12/60x10
rear bent raises db 30x12/35x10/40x10
2 sets finish 12 reps behind neck press on smith seated no backrest

shrugs 185x12/225x12/275x10/315 a hard 8 :P,,drop to 225 8 more,,,

forearms reverse cable curls and weighted rope rollups
calves standing calf raise 180x20/220x12/240x12/240x10,200x12
Do you do front presses standing or seated?

MrN your thread was moved to general topics.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 18, 2013, 08:39:57 PM
Do you do front presses standing or seated?

MrN your thread was moved to general topics.
Damn I hate general topics, but thanks for the direction. Calvin will disagree.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 18, 2013, 08:43:57 PM
Do you do front presses standing or seated?

MrN your thread was moved to general topics.
seated ...i do like sometimes standing version free bar as a finisher ..i switch with db presses as well,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2013, 08:44:46 PM
That's all you are going to get Jay.....jokes about 69'ers.   :D

Just getting ready for the flaming. Some of the homophobes and more ignorant types on Getbig, have nothing better to do than make comments about my sexual adventures (I wish!). Maybe I am being paranoid and I certainly can't imagine anyone on the Mature thread saying anything that's not meant as a joke about me being 69 years old, but I suspect the news will get out anyway. Like I said, feeling a bit paranoid, I guess.

Anyway, thank goodness the bronchitis is gone because I would hate to celebrate the passing of another year feeling like crap, like I did for three weeks.

It's a bummer that you have problems with PMS. My wife has always been lucky with regards to PMS. Her big female issue was early menopause which started when she was 34 years old, right after our daughter was born. On the other hand my mom had horrible problems as did our daughter before their respective hysterectomies. My hormones have been screwed up for as long as I can remember, although guys don't get PMS, thank goodness.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 18, 2013, 08:48:17 PM
Do you do front presses standing or seated?

MrN your thread was moved to general topics.
Standing is best how do you prefer?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 18, 2013, 08:50:15 PM
Just getting ready for the flaming. Some of the homophobes and more ignorant types on Getbig, have nothing better to do than make comments about my sexual adventures (I wish!). Maybe I am being paranoid and I certainly can't imagine anyone on the Mature thread saying anything that's not meant as a joke about me being 69 years old, but I suspect the news will get out anyway. Like I said, feeling a bit paranoid, I guess.

Anyway, thank goodness the bronchitis is gone because I would hate to celebrate the passing of another year feeling like crap, like I did for three weeks.

It's a bummer that you have problems with PMS. My wife has always been lucky with regards to PMS. Her big female issue was early menopause which started when she was 34 years old, right after our daughter was born. On the other hand my mom had horrible problems as did our daughter before their respective hysterectomies. My hormones have been screwed up for as long as I can remember, although guys don't get PMS, thank goodness.

There's nothing to flame Jay.  But hit your wife up every week for a whole year for a 69'er.   ;D  Tell her it's to celebrate your 69th year.  I am glad to hear you are feeling well again.  Yes nothing worse than starting your birthday in not a good state..health wise.  I will get through the pms.  I loaded up massively on the B6 and I think it's starting to kick in because I don't have any tenderness in the breasts today.  Swelling is still there but at least pain is gone.  It's an excuse to eat something sweet.   :P  Yesterday I ate a slice of caramel slice with fresh cream.  I am meeting my best friend soon for a coffee and sweet.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 18, 2013, 08:50:25 PM
seated ...i do like sometimes standing version free bar as a finisher ..i switch with db presses as well,,,
I mostly do standing barbell since our seated barbell is adjustable and shakes around alot, or I do seated db either on a low or high back seat.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 18, 2013, 08:54:07 PM
Cool damn I wish I had free beauty treatments you are still hot. Yea I got two motorcycles from my dad. Yea meditation keeps me calm. You seen anything around there? I am going to smoke a cigarette now.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=484801.225
Don't smoke, it's very bad for you.  I love haunted houses.  When I was in SD back in 2007, I went on a tour of the Whalen House.  It's supose to be haunted.  Didn't feel any presences there though.  I will read this thread when I get back from lunch with my bestie.  I really love this topic.  I am very fasinated by ghosts and things you can't explain. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2013, 08:57:55 PM
Worked back today.

Weight 207

Nautilus rowing back, 4X12-10
Nautilus torso back, 4X12-10
Low cable rows, 3X12-10
Hammer reverse grip pull downs, 3X12-10
Hammer one armed low rows, 2X12-10
Nautilus rowing back, 3X12-10

When somewhat lighter on the resistance today, concentrating on full range controlled movements and pausing at the top of the exercise. Instead of feeling spent, I felt invigorated at the end of the routine.

I did a really stupid thing. I put the padlock on the wrong locker. When I went to get dressed, I pulled the key out of my shorts pocket only to notice there was no lock to unlock. I opened the locker I almost always use and it was empty. After a moment of panic, I realized that that locker had a black gym bag like mine in it, so I had used the next locker over. Sure enough, there was my bag and my clothes. Fortunately, most people at the gym are honest, so nothing was missing except my brain.  ;D

I was too embarrassed to ask the desk clerk if he had to cut a lock off. What's done is done.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 18, 2013, 09:01:06 PM
Don't smoke, it's very bad for you.  I love haunted houses.  When I was in SD back in 2007, I went on a tour of the Whalen House.  It's supose to be haunted.  Didn't feel any presences there though.  I will read this thread when I get back from lunch with my bestie.  I really love this topic.  I am very fasinated by ghosts and things you can't explain. 
Read it its long even groink chimed in he had a experience once,tell us yours.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2013, 09:06:42 PM
There's nothing to flame Jay.  But hit your wife up every week for a whole year for a 69'er.   ;D  Tell her it's to celebrate your 69th year.  I am glad to hear you are feeling well again.  Yes nothing worse than starting your birthday in not a good state..health wise.  I will get through the pms.  I loaded up massively on the B6 and I think it's starting to kick in because I don't have any tenderness in the breasts today.  Swelling is still there but at least pain is gone.  It's an excuse to eat something sweet.   :P  Yesterday I ate a slice of caramel slice with fresh cream.  I am meeting my best friend soon for a coffee and sweet.  

Not to be morbid, but you have no idea how funny asking my wife for a blow job would be. She is on oxygen 24/7. Granted the air hose is in her nose, but the image of her going down on me is hilarious. Unfortunately, my wife is not healthy enough for sex. We settle for cuddling and giving each other back and foot rubs. Not very sexy, I know, but whatever works and since we are still together after all these years, it would seem we have figured out what works for us. Unlike some people on Getbig, my wife enjoys my daily exhibitionistic tooth brushing and beard trimming in my bright colored underwear. She thinks they are hot....especially the orange pair. Guess I am just a piece of meat to her.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2013, 09:11:52 PM
Standing is best how do you prefer?

Not speaking for Chaos, but I prefer seated presses. Besides a number of machines at the gym which emulate front and rear presses, there is always Smith presses, either front or back. There is also a Smith like machine where the bar raises in an arch. This machine is great for standing barbell overhead presses. When you press up the bar moves to the front away from you. This movement would be impossible using free weights, I suspect.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 18, 2013, 09:13:30 PM
Not to be morbid, but you have no idea how funny asking my wife for a blow job would be. She is on oxygen 24/7. Granted the air hose is in her nose, but the image of her going down on me is hilarious. Unfortunately, my wife is not healthy enough for sex. We settle for cuddling and giving each other back and foot rubs. Not very sexy, I know, but whatever works and since we are still together after all these years, it would seem we have figured out what works for us. Unlike some people on Getbig, my wife enjoys my daily exhibitionistic tooth brushing and beard trimming in my bright colored underwear. She thinks they are hot....especially the orange pair. Guess I am just a piece of meat to her.... ;D
Looks like it's time for a divorce.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2013, 09:33:21 PM
Looks like it's time for a divorce.

Not in my lifetime. I don't believe in divorce, plus I love my wife. On the other hand, she may want to divorce me sometimes because I can be a bear to live with. Anyway she thinks I look hot in orange underwear so she's a keeper!  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 18, 2013, 09:38:42 PM
Not in my lifetime. I don't believe in divorce, plus I love my wife. On the other hand, she may want to divorce me sometimes because I can be a bear to live with. Anyway she thinks I look hot in orange underwear so she's a keeper!  ;D
I have to say at 69 you are a cool dude and still training. (no homo).
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2013, 09:42:54 PM
I have to say at 69 you are a cool dude and still training. (no homo).

Do make too much out my training. I am a lifetime narcissist. Looking the best I can is very important to me. It is not like I train for anyone else. If there is a benefit beyond looking fairly decent in my bathroom mirror, it is that I am healthier than most dudes my age (bronchitis notwithstanding).  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 18, 2013, 10:06:51 PM
Do make too much out my training. I am a lifetime narcissist. Looking the best I can is very important to me. It is not like I train for anyone else. If there is a benefit beyond looking fairly decent in my bathroom mirror, it is that I am healthier than most dudes my age (bronchitis notwithstanding).  ;D
Just keep training, Ed Corney didnt start until 33 and won many titles. All of us Bodybuilders are Narcissist. I train a few people one is older like 62 has a knee issue, believe it or not call me crazy but slow squats under control is the best exercise you can do, fuck extensions they just irritate the knee joint. The dude called me back next after the slow squats said the knee felt much better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 19, 2013, 12:31:12 AM
Just keep training, Ed Corney didnt start until 33 and won many titles. All of us Bodybuilders are Narcissist. I train a few people one is older like 62 has a knee issue, believe it or not call me crazy but slow squats under control is the best exercise you can do, fuck extensions they just irritate the knee joint. The dude called me back next after the slow squats said the knee felt much better.

I will keep the slow squats in mind. So far what I am doing is working. At this moment I have ZERO knee pain. When I worked legs on Tuesday, none of the movements bothered my knee at all, including some fairly heavy leg presses. I've heard people say the extensions irritate the knee before. Maybe it is how they do them. They don't bother my knee at all regardless of whether I do them one legged or both legs. I have not done them on any other equipment except the Nautilus leg extension which for me minimizes any jerkiness in the movement. Also, I am not using a lot of weight @ max 60 lbs. per leg. I keep the reps pretty high, shooting for the burn in my quads.

What normally has bothered my knee since it started acting up was mowing the lawn....not kidding here. Our front lawn is on a hill and I think there is something about the unevenness that troubles the knee. I did mow the grass yesterday though, with no problems at all.

I am doing machine hack squats, both front facing for quads and reverse for my hams. I am pretty careful on the front facing hacks. Talk about slow squats....I am doing these super slow and with not a ton of resistance either.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 19, 2013, 12:45:45 AM
Where am I? Do you mean since yesterday when I last posted on the Mature thread? Are you having a mature (senior) moment, Donny?

I've been back at the gym for over a week. My workouts are going well. I am pretty much over the bronchitis and aside from a little bit of an upset stomach, which I assume is from the antibiotic, I feel good. My legs are sore from Tuesday's workout which makes me happy because they don't always get sore, so I never know if I am doing enough to get them to grow....like Steve's.  ;D
yes i know mate but i have to come into the mature thread Via my Profile and click onto my mails because a fool has blocked me from seeing the Training section on the main menu. i asked Ronald if i am banned and he said no because only he can do this. so conehead can delete,edit but not much more and on other threads and sections here not all mods react like conehead. Freedom of speech.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 19, 2013, 12:55:26 AM
so anyway enough excitement. back to Training. I will do an arm workout today.

seated preacher curls 4 x 10 Superset with Close grip chin ups 3-4 x max
seated concentration curls 3x10-15

pushdowns 4x 10-12 Superset with Close grip bench press 4x10
cable kickbacks 3x10-15

abs crunches/reverse crunches
Cardio on bike
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 19, 2013, 03:09:21 AM
I will keep the slow squats in mind. So far what I am doing is working. At this moment I have ZERO knee pain. When I worked legs on Tuesday, none of the movements bothered my knee at all, including some fairly heavy leg presses. I've heard people say the extensions irritate the knee before. Maybe it is how they do them. They don't bother my knee at all regardless of whether I do them one legged or both legs. I have not done them on any other equipment except the Nautilus leg extension which for me minimizes any jerkiness in the movement. Also, I am not using a lot of weight @ max 60 lbs. per leg. I keep the reps pretty high, shooting for the burn in my quads.

What normally has bothered my knee since it started acting up was mowing the lawn....not kidding here. Our front lawn is on a hill and I think there is something about the unevenness that troubles the knee. I did mow the grass yesterday though, with no problems at all.

I am doing machine hack squats, both front facing for quads and reverse for my hams. I am pretty careful on the front facing hacks. Talk about slow squats....I am doing these super slow and with not a ton of resistance either.
I cant do any kind of leg extensions, I messed my knees up playing basketball could jump really high dunk under the goal at 6'2". Slow Back squats and Front squats all I do no knee pain what does that say? It says they are natural movements.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 19, 2013, 07:11:40 AM
yes i know mate but i have to come into the mature thread Via my Profile and click onto my mails because a fool has blocked me from seeing the Training section on the main menu. i asked Ronald if i am banned and he said no because only he can do this. so conehead can delete,edit but not much more and on other threads and sections here not all mods react like conehead. Freedom of speech.
Such a whiner for an old guy. :-\
There's a blue line that says getbig bodybuilding boards, on the left of that line is a +/- box, chances are, during one of your tear filled meltdowns to "smash" me, you hit that box. That minimizes the boards in that zone....where the training board is.

 As Ron said, I can't block you or ban you.... ::)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 19, 2013, 08:58:46 AM
I cant do any kind of leg extensions, I messed my knees up playing basketball could jump really high dunk under the goal at 6'2". Slow Back squats and Front squats all I do no knee pain what does that say? It says they are natural movements.

You are absolutely right that squats are a very natural movement or position. There was a time when humans didn't have chairs to sit in. It was common then to squat around the fire. Many cultures today still squat down as a way of relaxing rather then standing around. My father-in-law would be in a squat position in front of his aquarium for hours on end. Of course when one adds additional resistance, it does change the dynamic some. And as we all know, good form is of the essence.

My knee pain is caused by a miniscule tear. I have no idea when the tear happened. It could have been decades ago. They don't always cause problems. Mine did only recently. The pain can come and go according to the doctor. Aside from some movement that could further tear it, probably not from lifting at the gym since I am very careful with all lifts to use good form, there is not much that will change it. It will not repair itself. If it becomes problematical, I will discuss orthoscopic surgery with my doctor. As it stands now, with no pain, I am not inclined to worry about it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 19, 2013, 09:29:03 AM
Such a whiner for an old guy. :-\
There's a blue line that says getbig bodybuilding boards, on the left of that line is a +/- box, chances are, during one of your tear filled meltdowns to "smash" me, you hit that box. That minimizes the boards in that zone....where the training board is.

 As Ron said, I can't block you or ban you.... ::)
well iīm impressed that you are so powerful...get a life freak
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 19, 2013, 09:40:58 AM
ok...you were correct it was the +... ok i was a kunt ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 19, 2013, 10:54:47 AM
this shoulder workout i like....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 19, 2013, 11:10:24 AM
this shoulder workout i like....

Why you doing all those warmups man just a waste of time. Just do a couple sets then go heavy. No disrespect you got joint problems or something that require more warmups?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 19, 2013, 11:20:12 AM
Why you doing all those warmups man just a waste of time. Just do a couple sets then go heavy. No disrespect you got joint problems or something that require more warmups?
not me in the Video and i agree a lot of light sets but itīs still Looks a very intensive workout if done to failure and i like the Format of it. I do more supersets and tri sets and i did have a shoulder Problem.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 19, 2013, 11:26:43 AM
not me in the Video and i agree a lot of light sets but itīs still Looks a very intensive workout if done to failure and i like the Format of it. I do more supersets and tri sets and i did have a shoulder Problem.
I see if you got a injury, just wondering you seem as a good headed individual.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 19, 2013, 11:30:54 AM
I see if you got a injury, just wondering you seem as a good headed individual.
yeah sometimes.... ;D i try to pre exhaust my delts in shoulder Training but having said that i do also try to lift heavy(for me) I have always liked the Training effect i get from pre exhaust/supersets/tri sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 19, 2013, 11:31:30 AM
Why you doing all those warmups man just a waste of time. Just do a couple sets then go heavy. No disrespect you got joint problems or something that require more warmups?

I sometimes do warm up sets just to get the feel of the movement before hitting it. It may be a waste of time and a little energy as you suggest, but I enjoy doing them anyway.

Yesterday when I worked my back, I went really light on the resistance, concentrating instead on movement and speed. I am feeling the effects of that back workout today. So even though I did not really tax my strength, I accomplished something beneficial in my opinion. I also got through the routine in less then 45 minutes which is the ideal time for me to workout and not lose energy. I left the gym feeling like I could do a little more, which is sometimes a very positive feeling.

Have you ever considered that if you increased the resistance by only 5 lbs. a month, you'd add 60 lbs. to you lift in a year? I currently top out on seated one armed curls @ 45 lbs. for 8 reps. I doubt I would be able to do this with 105 lbs. in a year, but it is interesting to think about it that way.

Anyway, it is summer, I am in a mood to slim down a little. My stomach is looking flatter and my body appears a little more defined then it did in May. Even with the unforeseen time off lately, I feel like I am making improvements. I may not be on the competition stage with Cswol in a year, but hey, it's all good!  ;D  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 19, 2013, 11:38:16 AM
I sometimes do warm up sets just to get the feel of the movement before hitting it. It may be a waste of time and a little energy as you suggest, but I enjoy doing them anyway.

Yesterday when I worked my back, I went really light on the resistance, concentrating instead on movement and speed. I am feeling the effects of that back workout today. So even though I did not really tax my strength, I accomplished something beneficial in my opinion. I also got through the routine in less then 45 minutes which is the ideal time for me to workout and not lose energy. I left the gym feeling like I could do a little more, which is sometimes a very positive feeling.

Have you ever considered that if you increased the resistance by only 5 lbs. a month, you'd add 60 lbs. to you lift in a year? I currently top out on seated one armed curls @ 45 lbs. for 8 reps. I doubt I would be able to do this with 105 lbs. in a year, but it is interesting to think about it that way.

Anyway, it is summer, I am in a mood to slim down a little. My stomach is looking flatter and my body appears a little more defined then it did in May. Even with the unforeseen time off lately, I feel like I am making improvements. I may not be on the competition stage with Cswol in a year, but hey, it's all good!  ;D  
well itīs like Bill Pearl always said, leave the Gym with gas in the Tank...very wise words.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 19, 2013, 11:41:07 AM
shoulders i do warm up more than any Body part. The shoulders are very delicate and recieve enough from incline benches ..even back Training hits them to a degree.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 19, 2013, 11:44:14 AM
I sometimes do warm up sets just to get the feel of the movement before hitting it. It may be a waste of time and a little energy as you suggest, but I enjoy doing them anyway.

Yesterday when I worked my back, I went really light on the resistance, concentrating instead on movement and speed. I am feeling the effects of that back workout today. So even though I did not really tax my strength, I accomplished something beneficial in my opinion. I also got through the routine in less then 45 minutes which is the ideal time for me to workout and not lose energy. I left the gym feeling like I could do a little more, which is sometimes a very positive feeling.

Have you ever considered that if you increased the resistance by only 5 lbs. a month, you'd add 60 lbs. to you lift in a year? I currently top out on seated one armed curls @ 45 lbs. for 8 reps. I doubt I would be able to do this with 105 lbs. in a year, but it is interesting to think about it that way.

Anyway, it is summer, I am in a mood to slim down a little. My stomach is looking flatter and my body appears a little more defined then it did in May. Even with the unforeseen time off lately, I feel like I am making improvements. I may not be on the competition stage with Cswol in a year, but hey, it's all good!  ;D  
I understand as being older more warmup is required. Which back exercises did you do? Yea if you think about it adding 5lbs a month in 24 months you would doing 165 impossible although we always strive to do more.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 19, 2013, 11:44:47 AM
yeah sometimes.... ;D i try to pre exhaust my delts in shoulder Training but having said that i do also try to lift heavy(for me) I have always liked the Training effect i get from pre exhaust/supersets/tri sets.

I was talking to a young fellow at the gym yesterday about his conditioning. A year or so ago, he was about 216 and now he is 196 lbs. I guessed that he had lost about 20 lbs. and I was right on. He is probably about my height give or take an inch. He looks great and he says he feels great. He said he really enjoys the difference in how he feels when he runs now.

I've noticed that when he is working delts, he really keeps the resistance light. If his boulder shoulders are a result of this, he is doing something very right because the light weights seem to be working.

In contrast there are two fellows who train together who are really huge. One is big and also fat the other is just swole. Without a doubt these fellows are strong. One of them was working his back on the equipment I normally use yesterday. This is probably why I noticed how he preforms the exercises. On each machine he loads 4 or 5 plates on each side and then does a rapid succession of really limited movement exercises. For example, on the Hammer low back row, he move the weight about 6" if that. On some equipment, he needs help getting the weights into position and then again he barely moves them. This is not a one day or one time thing, he an his training partner workout in this manner all the time. I guess it makes one big, but the lack of range of motion cannot be a good thing in the long run.

I am going to stick to full range movements and lighter weights. At my age, I cannot afford to do exercises that are likely to make me less flexible than I already am.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 19, 2013, 11:53:11 AM
I was talking to a young fellow at the gym yesterday about his conditioning. A year or so ago, he was about 216 and now he is 196 lbs. I guessed that he had lost about 20 lbs. and I was right on. He is probably about my height give or take an inch. He looks great and he says he feels great. He said he really enjoys the difference in how he feels when he runs now.

I've noticed that when he is working delts, he really keeps the resistance light. If his boulder shoulders are a result of this, he is doing something very right because the light weights seem to be working.

In contrast there are two fellows who train together who are really huge. One is big and also fat the other is just swole. Without a doubt these fellows are strong. One of them was working his back on the equipment I normally use yesterday. This is probably why I noticed how he preforms the exercises. On each machine he loads 4 or 5 plates on each side and then does a rapid succession of really limited movement exercises. For example, on the Hammer low back row, he move the weight about 6" if that. On some equipment, he needs help getting the weights into position and then again he barely moves them. This is not a one day or one time thing, he an his training partner workout in this manner all the time. I guess it makes one big, but the lack of range of motion cannot be a good thing in the long run.

I am going to stick to full range movements and lighter weights. At my age, I cannot afford to do exercises that are likely to make me less flexible than I already am.
so correct Jay.. i like to feel light,fast,flexible and strong for my size. I am not a Marathon runner but i like endurance also in my muscle Training. I really mix it up. Full range of Motion is the best way...partials are oK at the end of a hard set..you know what i mean.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 19, 2013, 11:55:48 AM
this shoulder workout i like....


Not to be critical of young folks, but this fellow looks to be in his 20's. He better be fit at his age.  

Things I noticed when watching the video were that he pauses (rests) at the bottom of the exercise sometimes which relieves the tension and lessens the impact of the movement, IMO. He also exercises at a pretty fast pace. I prefer slower more controlled movements. When doing dumbbell side delt raises for example, if I feel like I am involving my back or jerking at all, like he appears to, I lower the resistance.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 19, 2013, 11:56:39 AM
well iīm impressed that you are so powerful...get a life freak
ok...you were correct it was the +... ok i was a kunt ;D
:)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 19, 2013, 11:57:44 AM
:)
:) sorry i was wrong.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 19, 2013, 12:52:02 PM
this one is for George
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 19, 2013, 08:03:24 PM
ready for vacation packed,truck packed mostly,going to jersey shore for wk nice condo/pool/block from private beach  ;D,,,bringing some dumbells for light pump/pushups off them for the beach pump  :),,,normal training rest in terms of a break to just swim and play with my little girlies,,,they will get to see normal 40 yr old dads for the most part,not a shaved,rippling'pumped type like there's :P,,,,after tommorrow if i don't post ,miss ya guys ,be back  8),,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 19, 2013, 08:09:51 PM
ready for vacation packed,truck packed mostly,going to jersey shore for wk nice condo/pool/block from private beach  ;D,,,bringing some dumbells for light pump/pushups off them for the beach pump  :),,,normal training rest in terms of a break to just swim and play with my little girlies,,,they will get to see normal 40 yr old dads for the most part,not a shaved,rippling'pumped type like there's :P,,,,after tommorrow if i don't post ,miss ya guys ,be back  8),,,
Watch out for sharks, have a nice time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 19, 2013, 08:17:32 PM
Have a great holiday with your family Steve.   :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 19, 2013, 08:19:05 PM
Have a great holiday with your family Steve.   :)
thanks mrn and karen....karen i might need u too rub some sunblock on me :D,,i'll pm ya details..in case,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 19, 2013, 08:20:14 PM
Not to be morbid, but you have no idea how funny asking my wife for a blow job would be. She is on oxygen 24/7. Granted the air hose is in her nose, but the image of her going down on me is hilarious. Unfortunately, my wife is not healthy enough for sex. We settle for cuddling and giving each other back and foot rubs. Not very sexy, I know, but whatever works and since we are still together after all these years, it would seem we have figured out what works for us. Unlike some people on Getbig, my wife enjoys my daily exhibitionistic tooth brushing and beard trimming in my bright colored underwear. She thinks they are hot....especially the orange pair. Guess I am just a piece of meat to her.... ;D

I am sorry to hear this Jay.  I do recall you posting about your wifes condition.  I guess I just forgot briefly, as my mind skipped ahead of all the fun stuff.  Love is about more than sex.  I am sure you can compromise in the bedroom.  Maybe she just lays back and enjoys while you do all the work?   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 19, 2013, 08:21:26 PM
thanks mrn and karen....karen i might need u too rub some sunblock on me :D,,i'll pm ya details..in case,,,
I will have to throw in a massage with that Steve.  I do love the feel of manly muscles and nice skin.   :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 19, 2013, 08:26:05 PM
I will have to throw in a massage with that Steve.  I do love the feel of manly muscles and nice skin.   :D
:)...i like being on beach all day,get color,ocean air,salt from ocean ,,then shower with good soap with scrub to it ,,good after sun lotion ,,there is no better look than that after a cold,white skinned winter,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 19, 2013, 08:31:44 PM
I will have to throw in a massage with that Steve.  I do love the feel of manly muscles and nice skin.   :D
Can I have one too?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 19, 2013, 08:39:45 PM
Can I have one too?
after mine ;),,i'm shy,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 19, 2013, 09:43:05 PM
ready for vacation packed,truck packed mostly,going to jersey shore for wk nice condo/pool/block from private beach  ;D,,,bringing some dumbells for light pump/pushups off them for the beach pump  :),,,normal training rest in terms of a break to just swim and play with my little girlies,,,they will get to see normal 40 yr old dads for the most part,not a shaved,rippling'pumped type like there's :P,,,,after tommorrow if i don't post ,miss ya guys ,be back  8),,,

You are a good dad. I don't know your girls, but I would bet they love you regardless of how pumped you are. Skip the dumbbells and just swim in the ocean and run on the beach. You are not going to lose any conditioning in a week anyway. A break is good. If you don't think about working out for the next week, you will blast it when you get home and go to the gym. Bodybuilding doesn't have to be an obsession.

A block from the ocean....man am I jealous. Maybe it is time for my wife and I to rent a place down in Lincoln Beach or Seaside for a week. Our kids are grown, but the dogs love the beach. So all is good. I can get the neighbor boy to water my yard. Wow! What and idea. I think we need a break from the same old routine that fills our lives most of the year. Late summer is the best time of the year here for good weather at the beach.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 19, 2013, 09:47:53 PM
I am sorry to hear this Jay.  I do recall you posting about your wifes condition.  I guess I just forgot briefly, as my mind skipped ahead of all the fun stuff.  Love is about more than sex.  I am sure you can compromise in the bedroom.  Maybe she just lays back and enjoys while you do all the work?   ;D

She's shy or even coy after all these years. Something else to love about her. Thanks for the idea about me doing all the "work?" not  that it would be. Chances are we will at least enjoy a good laugh over the idea of having sex at this point. But hey, it is all good.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 19, 2013, 09:49:06 PM
I like to piss in the ocean now and then.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 19, 2013, 09:49:23 PM
:)...i like being on beach all day,get color,ocean air,salt from ocean ,,then shower with good soap with scrub to it ,,good after sun lotion ,,there is no better look than that after a cold,white skinned winter,,,
I love the ocean, you always feel so healthy after a good swim.  I don't wash my hair afterwards until the next day as I find the salt really gives it alot of body.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 19, 2013, 09:50:07 PM
I like to piss in the ocean now and then.
Me too but apparently it attracts sharks.  :o  So I stopped that 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 19, 2013, 09:50:57 PM
Can I have one too?
It seems I will be busy.   :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 19, 2013, 09:52:24 PM
She's shy or even coy after all these years. Something else to love about her. Thanks for the idea about me doing all the "work?" not  that it would be. Chances are we will at least enjoy a good laugh over the idea of having sex at this point. But hey, it is all good.
Think of this...you doing all the work can be another workout and help keep you fit. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 19, 2013, 09:55:45 PM
I love the ocean, you always feel so healthy after a good swim.  I don't wash my hair afterwards until the next day as I find the salt really gives it alot of body.

Yeah, I remember how my hair had momentary body after a day at the beach and swimming in the ocean. The sea water is so great for my skin. I have oily skin and it clears up all the oiliness and when I was a pimply kid my pimples too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 19, 2013, 10:00:04 PM
Yeah, I remember how my hair had momentary body after a day at the beach and swimming in the ocean. The sea water is so great for my skin. I have oily skin and it clears up all the oiliness and when I was a pimply kid my pimples too.
There's many hair products on the market with salt in it to add body.  They are selling it calling it "sea salt".  I was always told to wash my hair after a swim in the ocean but I stopped years and years ago because my hair never looked better after a swim in the ocean.  Also I love how it really washes out your nose.  It's good for clearing up a cold thats lingering around.  Yep skin looks amazing too...it has that glow to it. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 19, 2013, 10:02:07 PM
I will have to throw in a massage with that Steve.  I do love the feel of manly muscles and nice skin.   :D

Hey wait. I am in line too. I love getting a massage. Do you do deep tissue massage? I may not have as many manly muscles as Steve, but you can pretend. Don't be upset if the massage puts me to sleep, they are so relaxing.

Kidding aside, I have a great masseuse. He does deep tissue massage and since he is also a good friend of mine, he gives me a 90 minute massage for the price of a 60 minute massage. He'd probably do it for free, but I won't hear of it. I haven't been to see him since before I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. That's almost been a year and a half. Time for me to get back into the therapeutic benefits of massage. If I can get my doctor to prescribe them, my medical insurance covers most of the cost.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 19, 2013, 10:03:40 PM
Dammit I am second in line you are third Prime.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 19, 2013, 10:05:41 PM
There's many hair products on the market with salt in it to add body.  They are selling it calling it "sea salt".  I was always told to wash my hair after a swim in the ocean but I stopped years and years ago because my hair never looked better after a swim in the ocean.  Also I love how it really washes out your nose.  It's good for clearing up a cold thats lingering around.  Yep skin looks amazing too...it has that glow to it. 

Damn, I wish you'd reminded me of this before Booty. Having just spent three miserable summer weeks with bronchitis and taking an antibiotic to clear up the bacterial infection of my lungs, I could have simply hit the beach. What the heck is wrong with me that I didn't remember how well that works.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 19, 2013, 10:06:57 PM
Dammit I am second in line you are third Prime.

Hey, whatever happened to the age before beauty thing? (no homo)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 20, 2013, 07:40:40 AM
A fat girl keeps calling me to train her, my experience with these is they a most times lazy and will not diet for fat loss. Most of them just want sex with a fit guy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 20, 2013, 09:24:11 AM
A fat girl keeps calling me to train her, my experience with these is they a most times lazy and will not diet for fat loss. Most of them just want sex with a fit guy.

So what are you going to decide? Are you going to train her or.....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 20, 2013, 04:14:09 PM
So what are you going to decide? Are you going to train her or.....
I will offer to but fat girls are lazy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 20, 2013, 05:36:49 PM
I will offer to but fat girls are lazy.
so you mean train her or?????   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 20, 2013, 06:07:14 PM
so you mean train her or?????   
Yes I will train her and give her a diet but will not have sex with her, she likes my body but hey she is going to have lose weight so later.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 20, 2013, 07:09:21 PM
Yes I will train her and give her a diet but will not have sex with her, she likes my body but hey she is going to have lose weight so later.
If there is no chemistry between you then her losing body fat wont make too much difference. If there's no connection and no attraction/ chemistry then just keep her as a client
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 20, 2013, 07:15:51 PM
If there is no chemistry between you then her losing body fat wont make too much difference. If there's no connection and no attraction/ chemistry then just keep her as a client
No attraction she just always asks if want a BJ sometimes I say ok sometimes not.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 20, 2013, 08:04:29 PM
Yes I will train her and give her a diet but will not have sex with her, she likes my body but hey she is going to have lose weight so later.

Didn't know you were such a pig.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 20, 2013, 08:05:44 PM
No attraction she just always asks if want a BJ sometimes I say ok sometimes not.

Ha, ha....see what I mean?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 20, 2013, 08:10:43 PM
It's not sounding very enticing. I wouldn't want to give a bj if the man wasn't wanting to give me oral as well. If the man shows no interest and doesn't make a move then I wouldn't be throwing myself at him. Hopefully this girl finds someone who returns the interest she gives to you
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 20, 2013, 08:16:48 PM
It's not sounding very enticing. I wouldn't want to give a bj if the man wasn't wanting to give me oral as well. If the man shows no interest and doesn't make a move then I wouldn't be throwing myself at him. Hopefully this girl finds someone who returns the interest she gives to you

I think he was kidding.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 20, 2013, 08:46:56 PM
It's not sounding very enticing. I wouldn't want to give a bj if the man wasn't wanting to give me oral as well. If the man shows no interest and doesn't make a move then I wouldn't be throwing myself at him. Hopefully this girl finds someone who returns the interest she gives to you
I always give a girl oral in return so no worries.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 20, 2013, 09:00:12 PM
I always give a girl oral in return so no worries.
Thats good. Things should be fair.... Balanced!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 20, 2013, 09:07:11 PM
Thats good. Things should be fair.... Balanced!
True.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 20, 2013, 10:33:45 PM
True.

Not being single and on the prowl, I am feeling completely out of the loop all of a sudden. Never the less, sex is best when it is reciprocal.

This is pretty personal, but I remember the first time I devoted myself to satisfying my wife orally. Her reaction told me that I literally struck a "nerve" that she'd never realized was there before. It was an amazing feeling for me as well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 20, 2013, 11:38:58 PM
Should I drop a downer in here or just make everyone take a cold shower instead???   :D  Actually I will bring a downer into this thread.  I am overly emotional and feeling very crappy mentally from my pms.  B6 does not help with seraton increases. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 21, 2013, 01:11:57 AM
Should I drop a downer in here or just make everyone take a cold shower instead???   :D  Actually I will bring a downer into this thread.  I am overly emotional and feeling very crappy mentally from my pms.  B6 does not help with seraton increases. 
Sorry sounds like you need to run around the block naked.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 21, 2013, 02:14:52 AM
Sorry sounds like you need to run around the block naked.
I will go for my cardio tomorrow morning but dressed fully. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 21, 2013, 02:21:51 AM
I will go for my cardio tomorrow morning but dressed fully. 
Talking of cardio i will go for a run in the Woods soon, gotta work till tonight(sunday) and later i canīt be botherd. i will wear a Baseball hat so my head does not get bitten to pieces... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 21, 2013, 02:23:24 AM
Talking of cardio i will go for a run in the Woods soon, gotta work till tonight(sunday) and later i canīt be botherd. i will wear a Baseball hat so my head does not get bitten to pieces... ;D
This is from the birds as they swoop down to peck you???   ;D 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 21, 2013, 02:27:14 AM
I am going to make a toasted cheese sandwich now. Then sit on my front porch and smoke a cigarette.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 21, 2013, 02:27:44 AM
This is from the birds as they swoop down to peck you???   ;D 
so where i run there is water too.. a river and the weird Dragon flys(things ;D) that are flying around are weird. some are like mutants... OK for an Aussie Girl maybe nothing but for a wee Scotsman like me weird. Lots of blood sucking flys....very aggressive at the Moment....because i have a shaved head they just go for it and because i am sweating...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 21, 2013, 09:45:01 AM
Worked hams and calves last Friday. -Did all the usual exercises, using pretty much the same weight as I've been using. Decided to shorten up the rest times between sets, so I worked a little faster and got through the routine in about an hour. Did all the ham exercises first and then did calves. My calves are not as sore as last time I did this. Guess I need to step up the resistance some.

The fellow who used the hack squat prior to me is a really big and rather chunky guy. He is very strong though. He loaded so much weight on the hack squat machine I thought it was going to break....seriously. He put two 100 lb. plates and six 45's on each side with the plates held in place with straps. Then he loaded four more 45's and two 25's on the grip handles at the top. Two guys spotted him while he did reverse hack squats. I didn't count the reps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 21, 2013, 03:15:56 PM
so funny....
AG0xQ
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 21, 2013, 03:54:01 PM
so where i run there is water too.. a river and the weird Dragon flys(things ;D) that are flying around are weird. some are like mutants... OK for an Aussie Girl maybe nothing but for a wee Scotsman like me weird. Lots of blood sucking flys....very aggressive at the Moment....because i have a shaved head they just go for it and because i am sweating...
I don't like being bitten either.  I have to be careful when I do my cardio outdoors because around sunset the mozzies and sandflies come out fierce and eat my back and thighs to bits.  For some reason they like my back and legs.  When I get bitten I scratch alot and it keeps me awake at nights.  So I walk earlier now and avoid this issue.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 21, 2013, 04:38:55 PM
hope everyone had a pleasant weekend........working arms this eve..........kneeling cable extensions  4 sets.......dips  4 sets........lying db extensions 3 sets......standing ez bar curls  4 sets.......concentration curls  4 sets........precor machine curls  3 sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 21, 2013, 04:39:21 PM
Didn't go walking this morning.  I will go this afternoon instead.  My breasts were too heavy and sore at 6am so I took some more B6 and went back to sleep for an hour.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 21, 2013, 08:29:54 PM
Didn't go walking this morning.  I will go this afternoon instead.  My breasts were too heavy and sore at 6am so I took some more B6 and went back to sleep for an hour.
**shakes head**
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 21, 2013, 10:02:54 PM
Didn't go walking this morning.  I will go this afternoon instead.  My breasts were too heavy and sore at 6am so I took some more B6 and went back to sleep for an hour.
Could cause lower back pain as well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 21, 2013, 10:21:58 PM
Could cause lower back pain as well.
I have got that now as of this afternoon
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 21, 2013, 10:32:22 PM
I have got that now as of this afternoon
Sorry to hear, sometimes I get a insight into peoples feelings I guess through meditation I do. So some of the friends I have here I can feel there pain had guy I train sometimes called me yesterday his knee hurting told him do slow light squats he called back today said it was much better. Try hanging from a chin bar a few time a day may help with back pain.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 21, 2013, 10:57:27 PM
Sorry to hear, sometimes I get a insight into peoples feelings I guess through meditation I do. So some of the friends I have here I can feel there pain had guy I train sometimes called me yesterday his knee hurting told him do slow light squats he called back today said it was much better. Try hanging from a chin bar a few time a day may help with back pain.
Yes how did you know? It's telepathy or something.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 21, 2013, 11:06:30 PM
Yes how did you know? It's telepathy or something.
Not sure I just feel other peoples pain sometimes not physical pain but grief and mental pain. It rained really bad here today I assume you are going through the rainy season there now makes thing a bit more depressing. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 21, 2013, 11:14:27 PM
Not sure I just feel other peoples pain sometimes not physical pain but grief and mental pain. It rained really bad here today I assume you are going through the rainy season there now makes thing a bit more depressing. 
Emotionally I am very very down and just stressing over the smallest things. I don't feel confidant or self assured. So yes you have tapped into my mental pain. Definitely hormonal as this is not me. And it just feels like it is dragging on. I want my flow ASAP so that I can return to my normal self. I am not happy like this.   Weather wise it's hot and yet it's half way through winter. Very humid and I hate it. I want the winter we should be having.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 21, 2013, 11:30:36 PM
Global warming effecting us all it rained like a bitch really hard here today. I know pms is effecting you try taking a warm bath in Epson salt, hang from a bar or rafter a couple times a day and slow walking once a day. It will pass. i had the flu or a virus last month for like two weeks thought I was gonna die but survived it I havent been sick in years never had any childhood sickness it just cam out of nowhere.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 21, 2013, 11:50:51 PM
Global warming effecting us all it rained like a bitch really hard here today. I know pms is effecting you try taking a warm bath in Epson salt, hang from a bar or rafter a couple times a day and slow walking once a day. It will pass. i had the flu or a virus last month for like two weeks thought I was gonna die but survived it I havent been sick in years never had any childhood sickness it just cam out of nowhere.
Global warming is really screwing up the seasons.  They are all over the place.  I worry about what kind of summer we will get if it's hot in winter.   ???  I had a bath the other night but I didn't feel any better for it.  I even took a glass of wine with me but all it did was send my pulse racing.  I can feel the blood pulsing through my body.  It's like my cortisol levels are up and I am stressed.  I slept all weekend.  Went to bed both nights at 10pm which is not like me. 
Sorry to hear you got a bad virus.  But glad you have fully recovered now.  One thing I have noticed is that there are nastier virus's around compared to years ago. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 22, 2013, 02:18:44 AM
hope everyone had a pleasant weekend........working arms this eve..........kneeling cable extensions  4 sets.......dips  4 sets........lying db extensions 3 sets......standing ez bar curls  4 sets.......concentration curls  4 sets........precor machine curls  3 sets.
nice George...gonna pump up my big chest today...gonna have to buy some new Shirts soon... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 22, 2013, 08:09:05 AM
nice George...gonna pump up my big chest today...gonna have to buy some new Shirts soon... ;D
what exercises will you perform for chest today?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 22, 2013, 09:00:21 AM
what exercises will you perform for chest today?
Today i did straight sets...

Parallel bar Dips 4xmax
Flat DB flys 4x12
Incline Barbell press 4x8-10
incline flys 4x12

incline sit ups 3x20 and hanging knee raises 3x20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 22, 2013, 09:06:14 AM
Today i did straight sets...

Parallel bar Dips 4xmax
Flat DB flys 4x12
Incline Barbell press 4x8-10
incline flys 4x12

incline sit ups 3x20 and hanging knee raises 3x20
looks good!!! keep it up!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 22, 2013, 09:12:17 AM
looks good!!! keep it up!!!
Thank you George you too ;D ;D ;D ;D I will never be Hercules unchained but i try...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 22, 2013, 09:14:16 AM
Itīs got hot again here....i am like a Lizard and am hiding indoors....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 22, 2013, 09:22:55 AM
One thing I have noticed is that there are nastier virus's around compared to years ago. 

I have a theory about the nasty virus's. A lot of folks don't fully knock out a virus when they get one, either by not doing everything they can to get well, or if it is a bacterial infection, like I had, they don't finish the full course of their antibiotic. What this does is kill all the weakest germs and leave the strong ones to survive.

Another piece of this is similar to what happens when people have untreated allergies. If you suffer ongoing allergies, it runs you down and you become more susceptible to getting sick. Many of us lead ridiculously hectic lives. We don't get enough rest. We worry a lot. These things not only deplete you mentally, but physically and like with an allergy, you end up being more likely to get sick.

All this constant hand washing and doing everything to avoid germs may in fact be counter affective. We need some germs, it is how we build immunity to others. If our environment it too sterile, we never build that immunity.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 22, 2013, 09:30:43 AM
Itīs got hot again here....i am like a Lizard and am hiding indoors....

Although I am currently naked because I haven't gotten dressed yet, it has been cool and cloudy in the mornings here. It is 9:25 a.m. and temperature out is 60 degrees. It is 68 degrees in the house with some windows open. Usually by noon, the cloud cover clears and it immediately warms up to the mid to high 80's. It's kind of weird weather, but I will take it over hot all day or raining.

I am going to try going to the gym this morning rather than wait until later today (of course I will have to get dressed first, LOL). I have a meeting early this evening so it makes sense to get out of the gym early. I did not work out yesterday or Saturday as planned. It is hard since I think I should be doing something, but the break seems to fire me up to get back to the gym and really hit it hard. My abs are looking flatter and I am starting to see a my ribs a little on my sides. Now if I could get rid of the lower back fat, things will be looking up. I am going to work delts and abs today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 22, 2013, 09:51:46 AM
Although I am currently naked because I haven't gotten dressed yet, it has been cool and cloudy in the mornings here. It is 9:25 a.m. and temperature out is 60 degrees. It is 68 degrees in the house with some windows open. Usually by noon, the cloud cover clears and it immediately warms up to the mid to high 80's. It's kind of weird weather, but I will take it over hot all day or raining.

I am going to try going to the gym this morning rather than wait until later today (of course I will have to get dressed first, LOL). I have a meeting early this evening so it makes sense to get out of the gym early. I did not work out yesterday or Saturday as planned. It is hard since I think I should be doing something, but the break seems to fire me up to get back to the gym and really hit it hard. My abs are looking flatter and I am starting to see a my ribs a little on my sides. Now if I could get rid of the lower back fat, things will be looking up. I am going to work delts and abs today.
Donīt know how you Americanos and Australians put up with it...i hate the heat. was sweating buckets doing chest... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 22, 2013, 09:53:44 AM
I trained at Home...in just Boxer Shorts and t Shirt...  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 22, 2013, 10:42:08 AM
Donīt know how you Americanos and Australians put up with it...i hate the heat. was sweating buckets doing chest... ;D
Hot as hell here. I sweat like a mofo very frustrating.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 22, 2013, 11:09:57 AM
Donīt know how you Americanos and Australians put up with it...i hate the heat. was sweating buckets doing chest... ;D

I go to the gym during the hottest part of the day. The gym is air-conditioned. When I walk in, it is like a breath of fresh cool air. This is very inspiring.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 23, 2013, 01:30:48 PM
Trained Back today...

Sternum chins 4xmax
Dumbbell one arm rows 4x10
Deadlifts 4x 10,6,5,5.
Upright rows(close grip) 4x10

45 min run.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 23, 2013, 01:34:42 PM
Trained Back today...

Sternum chins 4xmax
Dumbbell one arm rows 4x10
Deadlifts 4x 10,6,5,5.
Upright rows(close grip) 4x10

45 min run.
Looks like decent workout Donny now tell me about Sternum chins reverse grip or forward?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 23, 2013, 01:38:49 PM
Looks like decent workout Donny now tell me about Sternum chins reverse grip or forward?
I do them reverse grip pulling up as high as possible. I did later tonight at work do some lat pulldowns now and again... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 23, 2013, 01:41:18 PM
a good read----
http://www.palmieribodybuilding.com/Chins.pdf
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 23, 2013, 01:42:25 PM
I do them reverse grip pulling up as high as possible. I did later tonight at work do some lat pulldowns now and again... ;D
That's good reverse grip best puts your biceps in the most powerful position.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 23, 2013, 01:44:28 PM
That's good reverse grip best puts your biceps in the most powerful position.
well i like them like this and i can really bring my elbows back and squeeze. I have always got more out of a reverse grip.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 23, 2013, 01:50:51 PM
This man loved them and for his size was outstanding...
http://mohamedmakkawy.com/
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 23, 2013, 01:59:27 PM
This man loved them and for his size was outstanding...
http://mohamedmakkawy.com/
Makkaway had a very nice physique for a short person me being tall always had a similar body to Arnold arms and all. So my personal favorite.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 23, 2013, 04:17:52 PM
This man loved them and for his size was outstanding...
http://mohamedmakkawy.com/
makkawy was a sensational bber.......great lower lats!!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 23, 2013, 06:45:50 PM
makkawy was a sensational bber.......great lower lats!!!!
I actually admired him first for his forearms and abs...his lower arms were outstanding.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 23, 2013, 06:55:50 PM
Vince Trained him but i believe he had a Trainer(associate) also in Canada Ken Wheeler
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 24, 2013, 02:52:55 PM
Vince Trained him but i believe he had a Trainer(associate) also in Canada Ken Wheeler
ken wheeler sent mohamed to california to train with gironda......ken wheeler felt that gironda was the one guy who could take makkawy to the next level.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 24, 2013, 05:57:21 PM
delts this eve:


reverse cable flyes  4 sets


machine side laterals   4 sets


machine shoulder presses   3 sets


db shrugs  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 24, 2013, 07:11:24 PM
What I get tired of is peoples mouth be a quiet person damn tired of peoples mouth.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 24, 2013, 09:38:53 PM
What I get tired of is peoples mouth be a quiet person damn tired of peoples mouth.

Silence!  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 25, 2013, 03:26:42 AM
ken wheeler sent mohamed to california to train with gironda......ken wheeler felt that gironda was the one guy who could take makkawy to the next level.
yes i have seen Pictures of them together
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 25, 2013, 10:50:23 AM
working back tonight:


db rows   3 sets

pull ups    3 sets

lat pulldowns 3 sets

partial deadlifts  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 25, 2013, 04:47:11 PM
I better do some catching up.  Wednesday 24th  Trained back

Lat pulldowns to the front x 3 sets
One arm db rowes x 4 sets
Seated pully rowes x 4 sets

Thursday 25th  Just 30 mins cardio on treadmill at gym

Today I am going to train chest and delts and do some cardio as well.  Will post that up when it's completed.   :)

edit*  forgot to add in abs....just three sets of reverse crunches on an incline board  3 x 10 reps...since my stomach was giving me grief with the tenderness/pain/pms
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 25, 2013, 09:13:17 PM
Trained delts, traps and abs today.

Overhead presses, 5X15-6
Side lateral raises, 4X15-8
Body Masters back delt raises, 4X15-8
Standing front DB delt raises, 4X15-8
Shrugs, 4X15-8
Cable upright rows, 3X15-10
Fast-Trac, 3X25
Nautilus abs crunch, 2X25
Nautilus rotary torso, 2X25
Nautilus back raise, 2X25

Essentially the resistance was pretty much the same as last time I did this routine which was on 7-11, I did increase a couple of things and upped the reps here and there. All in all, it was a good workout which I accomplished in about an hour.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 25, 2013, 10:36:55 PM
ARMS:


ROPE PUSHDOWNS   4 SETS

DIP MACHINE   4 SETS

OVERHEAD DB EXTENSIONS (TWO ARM VERSION) 4 SETS

LYING DB EXTENSIONS  4 SETS


HAMMER STRENGTH PREACHER CURLS   5 SETS


CONCENTRATION CURLS   5 SETS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 25, 2013, 11:20:12 PM
I did 55 sets of barbell curls. What I am trying to say here is and I am am a HIT person always worked for me.  Now I will go eat a peanut butter sandwich. Older women don't shave.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 25, 2013, 11:41:18 PM
I did 55 sets of barbell curls. What I am trying to say here is and I am am a HIT person always worked for me.  Now I will go eat a peanut butter sandwich. Older women don't shave.

What you are trying to say here is that you are completely crazy!

Question, do you think older women don't shave because they have little to shave? Maybe this is too much information,  but my wife plucks her facial hair at least twice a week and she is Irish and Scotch. These are not women known for facial hair.

What about older men who shave or trim their body hair? I trim my back hair at least once a week. Is that gay? LOL!

Incidentally, peanut butter on toast in the morning is delicious and nutritious. I am an Adams all natural peanut butter fan.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 25, 2013, 11:48:01 PM
What you are trying to say here is that you are completely crazy!

Question, do you think older women don't shave because they have little to shave? Maybe this is too much information,  but my wife plucks her facial hair at least twice a week and she is Irish and Scotch. These are not women known for facial hair.

What about older men who shave or trim their body hair? I trim my back hair at least once a week. Is that gay? LOL!

Incidentally, peanut butter on toast in the morning is delicious and nutritious. I am an Adams all natural peanut butter fan.
Yes a little crazy but a bit of sanity. Pluck's her facial hair lol.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 26, 2013, 12:00:02 AM
Yes a little crazy but a bit of sanity. Pluck's her facial hair lol.

Hey! She's a lady. Ladies don't like having a beard.

I get that you are single and so you don't know how it is with women as they age. Probably all your girlfriends are barely legal....kidding! Anyway, after menopause, many women get unwanted facial hair. Some spend a fortune having it removed via electrolysis. Some just suffer constant plucking. Hormone changes are a bitch for women. If Karen is willing to be honest with you, she will confirm what I know to be true. Trust me, if my wife can get unwanted facial hair as fair as she is, any woman can. As I remember, my mom had the same issues.

Tell me, do you shave or trim you pubes? In the age of Metrosexual males, a lot of men do.

Here is my theory; we are a all just a bunch of hairy monkeys who are trying to look more evolved. I shaved my legs today! LOL.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 26, 2013, 03:29:52 AM
Hey! She's a lady. Ladies don't like having a beard.

I get that you are single and so you don't know how it is with women as they age. Probably all your girlfriends are barely legal....kidding! Anyway, after menopause, many women get unwanted facial hair. Some spend a fortune having it removed via electrolysis. Some just suffer constant plucking. Hormone changes are a bitch for women. If Karen is willing to be honest with you, she will confirm what I know to be true. Trust me, if my wife can get unwanted facial hair as fair as she is, any woman can. As I remember, my mom had the same issues.

Tell me, do you shave or trim you pubes? In the age of Metrosexual males, a lot of men do.

Here is my theory; we are a all just a bunch of hairy monkeys who are trying to look more evolved. I shaved my legs today! LOL.
I am extremely lucky as I am not hairy and I have never had to pluck any hairs off my face or wax hair above my lip. Hell I would give anything to have my eyebrows a little thicker. I love bushier eyebrows. I shave my legs once a week and as my arm pits and Brazilian have been lazered, I just shave a few blond hairs that the laser couldn't get.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 26, 2013, 03:38:38 AM
Oh and I was a lazy ass today. I only did my cardio... One hour brisk walking outdoors. Will train chest and delts tomorrow
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 26, 2013, 03:58:25 AM
Oh and I was a lazy ass today. I only did my cardio... One hour brisk walking outdoors. Will train chest and delts tomorrow
I trained shoulders +arms

Shoulder press BB 4x10
side raises DB 4x10-12
bent over laterals 4x10-12

Barbell curls 5x10
Tricep ez extensions 3x10
parallel bar Dips 3xmax
ez reverse curls 3x10-15

incline sit ups with hanging knee raises 3x20-30
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 26, 2013, 06:35:52 AM
Thank god itīs cooler now... ;D sweating my ass off the last few Days :(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 26, 2013, 09:29:52 AM
I am extremely lucky as I am not hairy and I have never had to pluck any hairs off my face or wax hair above my lip. Hell I would give anything to have my eyebrows a little thicker. I love bushier eyebrows. I shave my legs once a week and as my arm pits and Brazilian have been lazered, I just shave a few blond hairs that the laser couldn't get.

Yes you're lucky Karen.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 26, 2013, 12:56:37 PM
I did 55 sets of barbell curls. What I am trying to say here is and I am am a HIT person always worked for me.  Now I will go eat a peanut butter sandwich. Older women don't shave.
???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 26, 2013, 01:36:58 PM
I did 55 sets of barbell curls. What I am trying to say here is and I am am a HIT person always worked for me.  Now I will go eat a peanut butter sandwich. Older women don't shave.
Mr Olympia right here.. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 26, 2013, 02:50:23 PM
Mr Olympia right here.. ;)
True I just bought some Pro Tan and eat some chicken and rice.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 26, 2013, 09:35:13 PM
I did 55 sets of barbell curls. What I am trying to say here is and I am am a HIT person always worked for me.  Now I will go eat a peanut butter sandwich. Older women don't shave.

Worked pecs today. Did not do 55 sets of anything.

Weight 208 (seem to be getting right back up there).

Feeling really sore from both the back and deltoid workouts, so I decided to use more Nautilus equipment then usual.

Hammer flat bench press, 6X15-6 Pyramid style finishing off with 12 reps
Nautilus incline bench press, 5X15-8
Hammer decline press, 4X15-8
Nautilus dips, 3X12-8
Nautilus fly, 6X15-8
Nautilus pullovers, 3X15-10
Body Masters fly, 3X15

Had too much scotch last night which seemed to have sapped my energy today at the gym. At least I showed up and went through the motions.

The weather is humid and uncomfortable. Yesterday, I took advantage of the sun and laid out in the back yard naked for an hour. No need to pay for tanning during the summer. I had to mist myself with the hose several times to keep from melting altogether.


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 27, 2013, 02:18:31 AM
Worked pecs today. Did not do 55 sets of anything.

Weight 208 (seem to be getting right back up there).

Feeling really sore from both the back and deltoid workouts, so I decided to use more Nautilus equipment then usual.

Hammer flat bench press, 6X15-6 Pyramid style finishing off with 12 reps
Nautilus incline bench press, 5X15-8
Hammer decline press, 4X15-8
Nautilus dips, 3X12-8
Nautilus fly, 6X15-8
Nautilus pullovers, 3X15-10
Body Masters fly, 3X15

Had too much scotch last night which seemed to have sapped my energy today at the gym. At least I showed up and went through the motions.

The weather is humid and uncomfortable. Yesterday, I took advantage of the sun and laid out in the back yard naked for an hour. No need to pay for tanning during the summer. I had to mist myself with the hose several times to keep from melting altogether.



Why so many sets? I suggest going to Elington Darden's site check his methods. I trained with him in Deland FL the Nautilus Facility where Casey trained on the same equipment. Also trained with Mentzer at Gold's Venice he had me just do 3 sets to failure on chest. Pec Deck, Smith Incline and Decline Press.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 27, 2013, 04:36:10 AM
wanted to go in the gym later and Train but i had some bad News today, my Father in law died today and lost his fight with cancer. I will go and pay my last respects to him later. At least he has his peace now. He was a very good man and we sat many times together and drunk wine in his Garden. I have some very fond memories of him. A very religious man and i hope he is where he believed in.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 27, 2013, 06:24:06 AM
wanted to go in the gym later and Train but i had some bad News today, my Father in law died today and lost his fight with cancer. I will go and pay my last respects to him later. At least he has his peace now. He was a very good man and we sat many times together and drunk wine in his Garden. I have some very fond memories of him. A very religious man and i hope he is where he believed in.
Sorry to hear, my dad died last year difficult to take, I got 2 motorcycles from every time I ride I feel like he is sitting on my back with me. My nephew is only 20 he has cancer 2 surgeries it is still active, sad.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 27, 2013, 07:43:18 AM
wanted to go in the gym later and Train but i had some bad News today, my Father in law died today and lost his fight with cancer. I will go and pay my last respects to him later. At least he has his peace now. He was a very good man and we sat many times together and drunk wine in his Garden. I have some very fond memories of him. A very religious man and i hope he is where he believed in.

Sorry to hear of your loss. How is your wife doing? It is so difficult to lose a parent even when you know their passing is eminent.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 27, 2013, 07:47:19 AM
Why so many sets? I suggest going to Elington Darden's site check his methods. I trained with him in Deland FL the Nautilus Facility where Casey trained on the same equipment. Also trained with Mentzer at Gold's Venice he had me just do 3 sets to failure on chest. Pec Deck, Smith Incline and Decline Press.

I will check Elington Darden's site out, http://www.drdarden.com/ for ideas. Having just briefly looked at the site, the before and after photos are interesting in that there isn't a real dramatic change for most of the folks.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 27, 2013, 10:15:06 AM
Sorry to hear of your loss. How is your wife doing? It is so difficult to lose a parent even when you know their passing is eminent.
yes itīs a difficult time at the Moment. i went today to see him. He will be buried Wednesday. At least he has peace now and passed away in his sleep.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 27, 2013, 10:20:53 AM
My condolences.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 27, 2013, 10:25:16 AM
My condolences.
Thank you
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 27, 2013, 12:42:39 PM
yes itīs a difficult time at the Moment. i went today to see him. He will be buried Wednesday. At least he has peace now and passed away in his sleep.

If one can chose how to go, passing away in their sleep is probably the best choice. -No drama and no anxiety. It would be my choice.

When I sleep, my dreams are epic, following detailed storylines. I have wondered if the dream just ends abruptly when you pass. It would be good to be able to finish the story first. Don't want to die mid-plot.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 27, 2013, 01:31:51 PM
If one can chose how to go, passing away in their sleep is probably the best choice. -No drama and no anxiety. It would be my choice.

When I sleep, my dreams are epic, following detailed storylines. I have wondered if the dream just ends abruptly when you pass. It would be good to be able to finish the story first. Don't want to die mid-plot.
True best way to go, my dad died like that. Never been much of dreamer.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 27, 2013, 02:25:48 PM
True best way to go, my dad died like that. Never been much of dreamer.

I assume you mean you have never been much of a dreamer. As I recall, you have issues with sleeping. One generally needs to sleep to dream.  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 27, 2013, 03:32:07 PM
back from vacation ,,had great wk weather,,played with kids in ocean/pool,,threw them around waves,,,won some stuffed animals and rode on some rides with them and they rode on some alone...i ate believe me ice cream,cheesesteak classic peppers and cheese boardwalk style 'jersey/philly' :o,,,,,we cooked as well at the condo so i ate good meals prepared too,,,drank some wine red/white/sangria,,,and me and the misses had a nice dinner out at seafood/steak chop house...i hade nice seafood risotto,,,,came home today and mowed lawn and did some pumping in basement to get things going,,legs tommorrow,,,break was nice,,,my build loved the calories over the wk and i felt and had beach build in full stride,,,this could be my best condition muscle/definition/fullness,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 27, 2013, 04:09:05 PM
I assume you mean you have never been much of a dreamer. As I recall, you have issues with sleeping. One generally needs to sleep to dream.  ;)
True.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 27, 2013, 04:51:22 PM
back from vacation ,,had great wk weather,,played with kids in ocean/pool,,threw them around waves,,,won some stuffed animals and rode on some rides with them and they rode on some alone...i ate believe me ice cream,cheesesteak classic peppers and cheese boardwalk style 'jersey/philly' :o,,,,,we cooked as well at the condo so i ate good meals prepared too,,,drank some wine red/white/sangria,,,and me and the misses had a nice dinner out at seafood/steak chop house...i hade nice seafood risotto,,,,came home today and mowed lawn and did some pumping in basement to get things going,,legs tommorrow,,,break was nice,,,my build loved the calories over the wk and i felt and had beach build in full stride,,,this could be my best condition muscle/definition/fullness,,,

Seems like you and your family really enjoyed the vacation. It looks like the break didn't do you any harm either. Good job!

I am taking little vacation breaks this summer. Not working out on Saturdays or Sundays. So far so good with this. But when fall comes, it is back to the grindstone for me!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 27, 2013, 05:05:09 PM
Donny I am so sorry for your loss.  It must be very hard for your wife to lose her dad.  And Steve you look great after your vacation.  Good to read that you had a great time with your family.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 27, 2013, 05:49:10 PM
Donny......my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 27, 2013, 05:50:48 PM
I will work legs tonight:


leg extensions   5 sets


smith machine squats  4 sets


romanian deadlifts   4 sets


seated calf raises  4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 27, 2013, 07:35:36 PM
Donny I am so sorry for your loss.  It must be very hard for your wife to lose her dad.  And Steve you look great after your vacation.  Good to read that you had a great time with your family.
thanx jay/karen,,,i sent donny pm,,,beat,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 28, 2013, 02:18:26 AM
Thank you everyone for the Kind words.....you look well brown Steve
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 28, 2013, 09:58:10 AM
leg day after rest,,i did some legs last wk lite in basement what i could pump stuff/rep/superset,,but this was full on today'gym'

leg extensions x4 ,,250 heaviest weight for 12
legs press x4 finished 7 plates
hack squat x3 ,5 plates max set
lunges x2 walking 70/80 lb bar on back
 hams
sldl 135,185,235 repped 10-12
leg curl seated x4 180/195/195/195 10 rep sets

calves
seated calf raise x3
standing calf raise x4
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 28, 2013, 11:25:34 PM
Yesterday I trained chest and delts.  28/7/13

Incline db chest presses x 5 sets
Pectoral machine presses x 3 sets
seated db shoulder presses x 4 sets
standing db lateral raises x 4 sets

I was supose to do my cardio in the evening but pms just made me feel like sitting it out.  My stomach was so tender and sore as well as heavy sore breasts.  This morning 29th ( I am 12 hours plus ahead of the yanks and 8 hours ahead of Donny) I attempted to do cardio on the treadmill again but after a few mins got off, as I had pains running from my lower back all the way down to my calves.  So I stopped.  I will attempt it again early in the morning tomorrow.  Hopefully I should get my flow by then.  Once I get it, I am fine.   

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 29, 2013, 05:51:06 AM
nice Karen,,,,123 pages and counting.... 8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 29, 2013, 07:12:12 AM
nice Karen,,,,123 pages and counting.... 8)
good to see you back Karen...yes 123 Steve... i trained Back+chest today. I really have a lot on this week and i will Train 3 days. I did ...

parallel bar Dips 4xmax
push ups using bars on floor 4xmax
DB flat flys 3x10-12

undergrip chins 3xmax
one arm DB rows 4x10
Close grip upright rows 3x10

i went for a run after but i am suffering now with the heat :'( got to work tonight and will sweat like a pig. not looking Forward to it... OK OK i know i should just man up.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 29, 2013, 01:48:49 PM
Here is my Back workout for tonight:


db rows   3 sets

pull ups    3 sets

reverse grip hammer strength rows  3 sets

partial deadlifts  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 29, 2013, 07:41:35 PM
chest
fdb press x4,,did 80's for a few last set with drop set felt good to push them again still need more reps  :-\,,ok 4 now ripped season,,
superset inc press with inc dbell flye x3
superset hammer press with dips x3
cable crossovers x3 12/15 reps finish...

tri's
dip machine seated x3
pushdowns x3
lying dbell extension x3
reverse grip pushdown x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on July 29, 2013, 08:31:37 PM
I got my flow this morning so feel relief throughout my body.   :)  I trained tris and bis and did 30 mins on the treadmill afterwards.

Tricep pressdowns with V bar X 6 sets
rope pressdowns X 3 sets
standing db curls, alternating from side to side X 4 sets

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 30, 2013, 10:15:37 AM
Nice workouts everyone .. i am having a day off Training today. I actually did some extra back and chest work last night at work. You know a bit like "staggered sets".. a set here and there and a superset when i fitted it in. The finishing off touches.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 31, 2013, 08:43:03 AM
well today was the Funeral...went well. was very well attended. Lucky the weather was cooler today as there were a lot of old People there. Tomorrow back to work and Training. Hope everyone on here is well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 31, 2013, 09:23:35 AM
well today was the Funeral...went well. was very well attended. Lucky the weather was cooler today as there were a lot of old People there. Tomorrow back to work and Training. Hope everyone on here is well.
:-\BE WELL...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 31, 2013, 09:26:48 AM
:-\BE WELL...
Thanks Steve :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 31, 2013, 07:28:15 PM
back

pullups overhand grip x3x12
bent over rows 135x12,185x12,195x10,225x10
row machine pad to chest seated x3 180x10,190x10,200x8
hammer pulldown used side grip instead underhand,,, do single arm reps and throw some 2 handed reps in between x3 10 reps sets plate and 1/2 set 1,,45 and 25 and 10 2nd,finished 2 45's per side ,,,
finished 2 sets 1 arm db row's 90's x10 reps

weighted hypers 45 plate x3x12-15

bi's
curls 85x12,95x10,105x8,65x15
db inc curls x3 30 x10,35x10,35x10
seated curl machine 125 x2x10,,100x12
finished 2 sets hammers  db's done across body instead up and down 35x10,40 x10

abs hanging leg raises x3 and floor crunched sets 30 x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2013, 12:47:12 AM
Just checking in....don't want you all to think I croaked! LOL.

Anyway, I am a bit bummed. Last Monday I went out to trim the ivy off the sidewalk on one side of our property. I ended up working in the yard for about 4 hours. I was sore when I came in and moving rather slow. Now my F***ing knee is giving me fits again and I am walking like a cripple. Looks like I may be having surgery after all. Here I thought it was all good, since I wasn't having any issues with knee pain when doing my leg workouts.

Here was a sight for sore eyes. I went to lunch with a friend of mine who is a couple of years older than I am. He has had both hips replaced and has a decided hiccup in his gate.  After lunch when we were crossing the street, I realized we looked something like the two characters in the movie Midnight Cowboy, with me being the Rizzo character played by Dustin Hoffman, since I was limping more than my friend was and he is a little taller than I am. Someone should have had a camera. That would have been a video for Getbig. We could title it two old geezers trying to beat the traffic light.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 01, 2013, 06:40:14 AM
Just checking in....don't want you all to think I croaked! LOL.

Anyway, I am a bit bummed. Last Monday I went out to trim the ivy off the sidewalk on one side of our property. I ended up working in the yard for about 4 hours. I was sore when I came in and moving rather slow. Now my F***ing knee is giving me fits again and I am walking like a cripple. Looks like I may be having surgery after all. Here I thought it was all good, since I wasn't having any issues with knee pain an doing my leg workouts.

Here was a sight for sore eyes. I went to lunch with a friend of mine who is a couple of years older than I am. He has had both hips replaced and has a decided hiccup in his gate.  After lunch when we were crossing the street, I realized we looked something like the two characters in the movie Midnight Cowboy, with me being the Rizzo character played by Dustin Hoffman, since I was limping more than my friend was and he is a little taller than I am. Someone should have had a camera. That would have been a video for Getbig. We could title it two old geezers trying to beat the traffic light.
ACTUALLY FORGOT TO MENTION IN LAST POST HOW'S JAY...THANKS FOR CLEARING UP...FEEL BETTER..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 01, 2013, 07:51:34 PM
where is evry one i lapped my last quote no posts  ???,,hope every one is cool,,

delts
superset fr press with side raises,,x4 135-175 and 25-30's kept reps at or close to 10 each movement
upright row and bent over rear delt x3 premade curl bar,60/80/90 and 30's on db
front raise cable and cable raise behind back x2

shrugs 185x12/225x12/275 x12/275x10

forarms reverse curl cable x3,wrist roll weighted rope x3
 calved standing calf raise 200x12/220x12/220x12/240x10/240x10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on August 01, 2013, 08:27:15 PM
I'm here! :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 01, 2013, 08:56:22 PM
shoulders and biceps:


reverse cable flyes   4 sets

side laterals   4 sets

machine shoulder presses 4 sets

db shrugs   3 sets


standing ez bar curls    6 sets

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 01, 2013, 11:09:24 PM
I'm here! :D
me too....post later ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 01, 2013, 11:10:32 PM
shoulders and biceps:


reverse cable flyes   4 sets

side laterals   4 sets

machine shoulder presses 4 sets

db shrugs   3 sets


standing ez bar curls    6 sets


nice ... i will Train shoulders and arms today....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2013, 11:31:46 PM
where is evry one i lapped my last quote no posts  ???,,hope every one is cool,,

Ha, ha fooled you. All the rest of us are laying about on the beach while you are in the gym pumping iron! Oh that's right, you already had your vacation. You spent it doing pushups on the beach and pull-ups under the boardwalk....now it is our turn!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 02, 2013, 05:51:33 AM
so it was a hot sweaty day in the Gym...

Machine shoulder press 4x6-10
machine side raises 4x10-12
rear delt machine 4x10-12

ez bar curls 5x10 Superset with
Close grip bench press 5x10

reverse ez bar curls 5x12-15 Superset with
machine tri extensions 5x10

Ab crunch machine 3x20-30
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 02, 2013, 08:31:03 AM
so it was a hot sweaty day in the Gym...

Machine shoulder press 4x6-10
machine side raises 4x10-12
rear delt machine 4x10-12

ez bar curls 5x10 Superset with
Close grip bench press 5x10

reverse ez bar curls 5x12-15 Superset with
machine tri extensions 5x10

Ab crunch machine 3x20-30
looks good!!! keep pumping that iron!! my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 02, 2013, 08:38:56 AM
looks good!!! keep pumping that iron!! my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.
Thanks mate... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 02, 2013, 07:15:34 PM
My thoughts are with you and your family also Donny. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 02, 2013, 07:21:21 PM
Sorry Donny, I lost my dad 2 years ago. I got 2 motorcycles of his I always feel he is riding with me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 02, 2013, 08:01:01 PM
I have had a sore throat for the past couple of days so that's why I am quiet, guys.    :(  Hope everyone else is doing well? 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 02, 2013, 08:07:17 PM
I have had a sore throat for the past couple of days so that's why I am quiet, guys.    :(  Hope everyone else is doing well? 
Sorry to hear, I hate a sore throat for me usually means a cold coming on. Hope not for you.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 02, 2013, 08:10:25 PM
Sorry Donny, I lost my dad 2 years ago. I got 2 motorcycles of his I always feel he is riding with me.
8)..nice dude,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 02, 2013, 08:28:13 PM
Sorry to hear, I hate a sore throat for me usually means a cold coming on. Hope not for you.
Thanks.  It started off with a migrane and I felt light headed and then the next day my throat was sore.  It hasn't progressed from there so hopefully I am in the worse of it.  I hate sore throats too....they make me totally miserable.  


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 02, 2013, 10:12:54 PM
Thanks.  It started off with a migrane and I felt light headed and then the next day my throat was sore.  It hasn't progressed from there so hopefully I am in the worse of it.  I hate sore throats too....they make me totally miserable.  




After the month long cold in July, the mere mention of a cold coming on strikes terror in my mind. Although I am well now, I have not yet returned to the level I was at working out prior to having bronchial pneumonia. I feel like such a total wimp. The "cold" has passed and now I am once again dealing with knee pain as a result of the miniscule tear. I am about ready to take myself out in the woods and put a frigging bullet in my head to end my misery....not to be all dramatic or anything!  ;D

My wife and I got up early this morning to prepare for her sister's visit from out of town. We had everything ready for lunch. I cleaned the house and set the dining room table. And here we sat, wondering where her sister and her brother-in-law were when their projected arrival time came and went. Two hours later, my wife called her sister. They are coming up from Corvallis tomorrow and not today. My wife got the day wrong. My day was shot. This is the story of my life these days. It is very frustrating!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 02, 2013, 10:16:54 PM
After the month long cold in July, the mere mention of a cold coming on strikes terror in my mind. Although I am well now, I have not yet returned to the level I was at working out prior to having bronchial pneumonia. I feel like such a total wimp. The "cold" has passed and now I am once again dealing with knee pain as a result of the miniscule tear. I am about ready to take myself out in the woods and put a frigging bullet in my head to end my misery....not to be all dramatic or anything!  ;D

My wife and I got up early this morning to prepare for her sister's visit from out of town. We had everything ready for lunch. I cleaned the house and set the dining room table. And here we sat, wondering where her sister and her brother-in-law were when their projected arrival time came and went. Two hours later, my wife called her sister. They are coming up from Corvallis tomorrow and not today. My wife got the day wrong. My day was shot. This is the story of my life these days. It is very frustrating!
You probably had the right day they changed it and didnt tell you and were just trying to throw you off to mess with your mind.  ;D

My brother and his wife once told my mom they were coming for dinner so she cooked and was ready for them around 6 or so they showed up at 11 pm wanting a place to sleep with two kids never called or anything.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 02, 2013, 11:48:39 PM
Jay the solution is to eat the scrumptous cooked meal your wife made and let your sister inlaw and husband order pizza tomorrow.  This is a win win.   ;D
Sorry to hear about your knee.  
It feels as though I am swallowing razor blades.  Bought some green tea today and will drink that.  I need hot things on my throat.  I really feel like soup but don't have the energy to make it myself.  And I am quite light headed...already been behind the wheel of the car and I am not quite with it, so I won't go out and get take out chicken and corn soup from my fav thai place. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 03, 2013, 08:01:08 AM
Sorry Donny, I lost my dad 2 years ago. I got 2 motorcycles of his I always feel he is riding with me.
i like this... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 03, 2013, 08:03:08 AM
well i think i will have to go for a hard run and beast my sorry ass ... nice wind and itīs going to rain i think... never mind cool me off... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 03, 2013, 08:06:47 AM
well i think i will have to go for a hard run and beast my sorry ass ... nice wind and itīs going to rain i think... never mind cool me off... ;D
You are hot because why Donny?   :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 03, 2013, 09:14:10 AM
Jay the solution is to eat the scrumptous cooked meal your wife made and let your sister inlaw and husband order pizza tomorrow.  This is a win win.   ;D
Sorry to hear about your knee.  
It feels as though I am swallowing razor blades.  Bought some green tea today and will drink that.  I need hot things on my throat.  I really feel like soup but don't have the energy to make it myself.  And I am quite light headed...already been behind the wheel of the car and I am not quite with it, so I won't go out and get take out chicken and corn soup from my fav thai place. 

Good suggestion with the lunch. We are doing something similar. The pasta salad my wife worked so hard on is fine to serve today. We cooked and ate the shrimp last night as it would not have kept. I bought premade chicken skewers at the market which I will barbeque today to have with the salad. The key lime pie was frozen so it is fine to thaw it out for desert today. All will be good.

My wife's pride is just a little wounded since she got that date wrong and feels a little embarrassed about it. I only wish I'd considered the possibility that this was what happened before she'd called her sister to see where they were yesterday. My wife has been having some issues with memory lately, which could be caused by her medications or poor physical health. We'll manage though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 03, 2013, 12:52:30 PM
Good suggestion with the lunch. We are doing something similar. The pasta salad my wife worked so hard on is fine to serve today. We cooked and ate the shrimp last night as it would not have kept. I bought premade chicken skewers at the market which I will barbeque today to have with the salad. The key lime pie was frozen so it is fine to thaw it out for desert today. All will be good.

My wife's pride is just a little wounded since she got that date wrong and feels a little embarrassed about it. I only wish I'd considered the possibility that this was what happened before she'd called her sister to see where they were yesterday. My wife has been having some issues with memory lately, which could be caused by her medications or poor physical health. We'll manage though.
I will not tell Falcon you are eating meat.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 03, 2013, 03:40:47 PM
I will not tell Falcon you are eating meat.

You can tell him if you wish. If we all ate just vegetables, there might not be enough of them to go around and then Falcon would get so hungry he's have to grab a piece of meat to gnaw on just to stay alive. I say we hog tie him and force feed him a Tri-tip. It will make man out of him. (no homo)!

I have yet to try his oven roasted potatoes with honey and mustard. I am thinking I will give these a go with a twist. Instead of spreading honey and mustard on them, I will use some honey mustard salad dressing to oil them up before roasting them. What do you think?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 03, 2013, 03:45:48 PM
Good suggestion with the lunch. We are doing something similar. The pasta salad my wife worked so hard on is fine to serve today. We cooked and ate the shrimp last night as it would not have kept. I bought premade chicken skewers at the market which I will barbeque today to have with the salad. The key lime pie was frozen so it is fine to thaw it out for desert today. All will be good.

My wife's pride is just a little wounded since she got that date wrong and feels a little embarrassed about it. I only wish I'd considered the possibility that this was what happened before she'd called her sister to see where they were yesterday. My wife has been having some issues with memory lately, which could be caused by her medications or poor physical health. We'll manage though.

My wife's sister and her husband just left. We had a really nice lunch. Yesterday's salad was excellent and the chicken skewers were almost as good as last night's shrimp. The key lime pie was just passable. Guess I need to learn to bake.

I am off to buy some electronics now; a backup drive from my laptop before it crashes again and I am less successful recovering the operating system then I was the other day and a charger for the Nook which has gone missing as did the Nook for over a year. The charger is only a couple of bucks though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 03, 2013, 04:33:27 PM
You can tell him if you wish. If we all ate just vegetables, there might not be enough of them to go around and then Falcon would get so hungry he's have to grab a piece of meat to gnaw on just to stay alive. I say we hog tie him and force feed him a Tri-tip. It will make man out of him. (no homo)!

I have yet to try his oven roasted potatoes with honey and mustard. I am thinking I will give these a go with a twist. Instead of spreading honey and mustard on them, I will use some honey mustard salad dressing to oil them up before roasting them. What do you think?
LOL on Falcon. He lives near me he is having a back issue now so I am trying to help with suggestions on that. The oven potatoes are good no doubt keep on keeping on Prime you are a good soul.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 03, 2013, 04:46:33 PM
I went to a restaurant tonight mainly to observe, almost every person that comes in other than kids are fat. It kinda made me feel sad I'm like can none of you control yourself's?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 03, 2013, 05:30:28 PM
You can tell him if you wish. If we all ate just vegetables, there might not be enough of them to go around and then Falcon would get so hungry he's have to grab a piece of meat to gnaw on just to stay alive. I say we hog tie him and force feed him a Tri-tip. It will make man out of him. (no homo)!

I have yet to try his oven roasted potatoes with honey and mustard. I am thinking I will give these a go with a twist. Instead of spreading honey and mustard on them, I will use some honey mustard salad dressing to oil them up before roasting them. What do you think?
I make my roast potatoes the way Nigella does.  I brush some flour on them and then drizzle olive oil over them in the roasting pan.  The flour makes them roast a real golden brown.  They are the best roast potatoes ever
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 03, 2013, 07:29:10 PM
LOL on Falcon. He lives near me he is having a back issue now so I am trying to help with suggestions on that. The oven potatoes are good no doubt keep on keeping on Prime you are a good soul.

People built like Falcon are often prone to back problems. Although I am not tall like he is, I do have a really long back. I feel lucky to not suffer from back problems. One thing that helps is not carrying too much weight in one's stomach area. Pot bellies really put a lot of stress on the back.

Are you suggesting core exercises? More then crunches and the like, core building exercises really seem to combat back issues. I learned this while is physical therapy for spasms in my back several years ago.

Tonight I am going to finish off the clam chowder I made several days ago. The recipe I used is from a famous seafood restaurant on the Oregon coast known as Moe's. They have been around for decades. The chowder is really hardy with lots of clams. Not exactly diet food, but all good stuff anyway. I don't know what my wife will eat since she doesn't like clam chowder.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 03, 2013, 07:39:04 PM
People built like Falcon are often prone to back problems. Although I am not tall like he is, I do have a really long back. I feel lucky to not suffer from back problems. One thing that helps is not carrying too much weight in one's stomach area. Pot bellies really put a lot of stress on the back.

Are you suggesting core exercises? More then crunches and the like, core building exercises really seem to combat back issues. I learned this while is physical therapy for spasms in my back several years ago.

Tonight I am going to finish off the clam chowder I made several days ago. The recipe I used is from a famous seafood restaurant on the Oregon coast known as Moe's. They have been around for decades. The chowder is really hardy with lots of clams. Not exactly diet food, but all good stuff anyway. I don't know what my wife will eat since she doesn't like clam chowder.
Agreed on tall people, I am 6'2" I guess tall by standards, yea he is doing twists and stuff now says it feels better. A chiropractor showed me some twists a few years ago after injuring mine doing heavy deads.

That sounds good send me the recipe.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 03, 2013, 07:57:40 PM
leg day..
leg press warmed up 3 plates/4 plates 12 0r so,,then 5 plates x12/6x10/7x10/8x5 drop back to 6 for 8 more...
squat 225x12/275x12/315x10/365x8
45 lb plate per hand stair lunges up/down/up/down did this 2x..
leg extensions x3 x12 per set

hams
lying leg curl 140 x12/150x10/155x8
sldl 185x10/225x10/245x10

calves standing calf x3/seated x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 03, 2013, 10:17:23 PM
Okay so I found out today that what I have is a virus and its going around.  I was supose to go to a girlfriends place for a get together and she told me that she had this throat thing for a whole week and to rest up.  Hopefully I get over it sooner.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 03, 2013, 10:20:06 PM
Okay so I found out today that what I have is a virus and its going around.  I was supose to go to a girlfriends place for a get together and she told me that she had this throat thing for a whole week and to rest up.  Hopefully I get over it sooner.
I had that shit last week no fun you just got to get through I spent about 4 days in bed, I could not lift. Hopefully you will get through it sooner.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 03, 2013, 11:36:54 PM
Agreed on tall people, I am 6'2" I guess tall by standards, yea he is doing twists and stuff now says it feels better. A chiropractor showed me some twists a few years ago after injuring mine doing heavy deads.

That sounds good send me the recipe.

Here is a link to the recipe I used;http://www.food.com/recipe/mos-clam-chowder-270792 (http://www.food.com/recipe/mos-clam-chowder-270792). Like LDSMom128, I chopped up the rendered bacon and returned it to the pot. The recipe makes a lot of soup. These are 8 good sized servings. I love soup and especially clam chowder so that was fine with me. I don't recommend making more than you can eat up in a week though....same as with anything with seafood in it.

Next up, I may try making some lobster bisque.

Another good seafood dish that is beyond easy to make is oyster stew, which is basically just oysters and the juice they come in with whole milk and/or cream, butter, paprika and a dash of Worcestershire sauce. You know what they say about oysters.....so you might want to have a date join you for dinner when you make this.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 03, 2013, 11:50:31 PM
leg day..
leg press warmed up 3 plates/4 plates 12 0r so,,then 5 plates x12/6x10/7x10/8x5 drop back to 6 for 8 more...
squat 225x12/275x12/315x10/365x8
45 lb plate per hand stair lunges up/down/up/down did this 2x..
leg extensions x3 x12 per set

hams
lying leg curl 140 x12/150x10/155x8
sldl 185x10/225x10/245x10

calves standing calf x3/seated x3

Did you work legs for me too? Today was my leg day. I didn't make it to the gym though. I feel my knee tightening up again which isn't good. I was able to keep it mobile the last time the miniscule tear acted up by working it at the gym. I may do legs tomorrow even though it is Sunday and I don't generally go to the gym on Sundays.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 04, 2013, 12:06:51 AM
Here is a link to the recipe I used;http://www.food.com/recipe/mos-clam-chowder-270792 (http://www.food.com/recipe/mos-clam-chowder-270792). Like LDSMom128, I chopped up the rendered bacon and returned it to the pot. The recipe makes a lot of soup. These are 8 good sized servings. I love soup and especially clam chowder so that was fine with me. I don't recommend making more than you can eat up in a week though....same as with anything with seafood in it.

Next up, I may try making some lobster bisque.

Another good seafood dish that is beyond easy to make is oyster stew, which is basically just oysters and the juice they come in with whole milk and/or cream, butter, paprika and a dash of Worcestershire sauce. You know what they say about oysters.....so you might want to have a date join you for dinner when you make this.  ;D
Thanks I'll try these.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 04, 2013, 01:59:43 AM
You are hot because why Donny?   :D
Baby Doll iīm always Hot.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 04, 2013, 02:01:03 AM
leg day..
leg press warmed up 3 plates/4 plates 12 0r so,,then 5 plates x12/6x10/7x10/8x5 drop back to 6 for 8 more...
squat 225x12/275x12/315x10/365x8
45 lb plate per hand stair lunges up/down/up/down did this 2x..
leg extensions x3 x12 per set

hams
lying leg curl 140 x12/150x10/155x8
sldl 185x10/225x10/245x10

calves standing calf x3/seated x3
solid ...man....solid....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 04, 2013, 02:11:48 AM
Baby Doll iīm always Hot.... ;D
Good answer Donny  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 05, 2013, 08:53:57 AM
Good answer Donny  ;D
Karen you are a great Woman...
so People i trained Chest today...

Parallel bar Dips 5xmax(really getting into Dips, it really shapes my chest in a way Benches do not)
Flat DB flyes 5x12
Incline BB press 5x10

i like this combination of Dips, Flys and presses. I also like Dips with push ups...you are working the chest hard too and safely as push ups are safe when exhausted. However if doing BB incline i give my chest a small ..."rest" with DB flys....now if i pre-exhaust then of course itīs diffrent.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 05, 2013, 07:31:28 PM
Did you work legs for me too? Today was my leg day. I didn't make it to the gym though. I feel my knee tightening up again which isn't good. I was able to keep it mobile the last time the miniscule tear acted up by working it at the gym. I may do legs tomorrow even though it is Sunday and I don't generally go to the gym on Sundays.

Did not make it to the gym yesterday, not that it would have made a difference. Monday is the day I inject my weekly dose of testosterone cypionate. After this mornings injection, I was fired up to hit the gym and kill my legs. I did my chores around the house, took my wife to lunch, answered a couple of business calls and then headed to the gym with every intention of making up for lost time on my quads and calves. What a letdown! My right leg (the one with the torn meniscus) was aching when I stepped out on the gym floor. Never-the-less, I launched into my routine, starting with leg extensions. I immediately knew I was in big trouble when I couldn't begin to lift the weight I'd used on the previous workout. Okay, so I dropped the weight down to zilch to warm up to the movement and my leg started feeling better. I pulled up my shorts so I could see the muscles working for inspiration. I moved through the exercise slowly and deliberately, locking out at the top of each movement. My knee pain actually lessened with each set, so I did 8 sets with light but increasing resistance. Good, I thought.

I limped down to the lower floor where I do leg presses all the while feeling my calf muscle seize up and shin splints kicking in with enormous pain. I soldiered on. Just to test the movement, I added no weight to the leg press machine and cranked out 25 reps. My knee felt fine. My right calf on the other hand was killing me. So what did I do? I pumped out 25 reps of leg press calf raises to "loosen it up" which did not work worth shit. Next I loaded a couple of plates on the leg press which was still nothing compared to what I normally lift. I cranked out another set of leg presses. Again, my knee felt fine, better even. But my calf and lower leg was in agony. I wanted to scream like a little girl (no offense Karen), but I didn't. I finished 3 or 4 sets of leg presses, giving up the calf raises in between. Then I looked at the hack squat and thought to myself there is no way in hell I can do this exercise. I wimped and limped off the gym floor, got dressed and drove home using cruise control because even pressing the gas pedal was killing me.

I walked in the door, headed straight for the bathroom and lathered my entire lower right leg in sports cream. I am almost walking like a normal person right now.

This has to be the hands down worse gym experience I have ever had in my lifetime.

Tomorrow I am headed down the valley to speak at a retirees meeting about our retirement benefits. I have every intention of working arms when I get back. Something has to give and babying myself is not the answer.

I know this is the mature thread, but I feel like I am a negative presence lately. Do you all really want to hear what may lie ahead for you? I suspect not.

Okay, gotta go because I am frying up some sirloin burgers from Costco for fortification and dinner.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 05, 2013, 07:37:32 PM
chest
fdbpress 65/70/75/75 drop set to 60 last set,reps 12/10/10/6 and 6
hammer seated press 2plates/2.5/3 plates 12/10/8
inc db 60's x3 10/8/6 drop 6 more..
dips x3 15 reps
cable crossovers x3

tri's
pushdowns 130/140/150 8 drop 8 more/150 again same drop 8 more
dip machine seated x3 200/200/215 10-12
over head rope extensions x3 10-12 110/120/130
kick backs x2 sets 12

abs

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 05, 2013, 07:43:57 PM
Did not make it to the gym yesterday, not that it would have made a difference. Monday is the day I inject my weekly dose of testosterone cypionate. After this mornings injection, I was fired up to hit the gym and kill my legs. I did my chores around the house, took my wife to lunch, answered a couple of business calls and then headed to the gym with every intention of making up for lost time on my quads and calves. What a letdown! My right leg (the one with the torn meniscus) was aching when I stepped out on the gym floor. Never-the-less, I launched into my routine, starting with leg extensions. I immediately knew I was in big trouble when I couldn't begin to lift the weight I'd used on the previous workout. Okay, so I dropped the weight down to zilch to warm up to the movement and my leg started feeling better. I pulled up my shorts so I could see the muscles working for inspiration. I moved through the exercise slowly and deliberately, locking out at the top of each movement. My knee pain actually lessened with each set, so I did 8 sets with light but increasing resistance. Good, I thought.

I limped down to the lower floor where I do leg presses all the while feeling my calf muscle seize up and shin splints kicking in with enormous pain. I soldiered on. Just to test the movement, I added no weight to the leg press machine and cranked out 25 reps. My knee felt fine. My right calf on the other hand was killing me. So what did I do? I pumped out 25 reps of leg press calf raises to "loosen it up" which did not work worth shit. Next I loaded a couple of plates on the leg press which was still nothing compared to what I normally lift. I cranked out another set of leg presses. Again, my knee felt fine, better even. But my calf and lower leg was in agony. I wanted to scream like a little girl (no offense Karen), but I didn't. I finished 3 or 4 sets of leg presses, giving up the calf raises in between. Then I looked at the hack squat and thought to myself there is no way in hell I can do this exercise. I wimped and limped off the gym floor, got dressed and drove home using cruise control because even pressing the gas pedal was killing me.

I walked in the door, headed straight for the bathroom and lathered my entire lower right leg in sports cream. I am almost walking like a normal person right now.

This has to be the hands down worse gym experience I have ever had in my lifetime.

Tomorrow I am headed down the valley to speak at a retirees meeting about our retirement benefits. I have every intention of working arms when I get back. Something has to give and babying myself is not the answer.

I know this is the mature thread, but I feel like I am a negative presence lately. Do you all really want to hear what may lie ahead for you? I suspect not.

Okay, gotta go because I am frying up some sirloin burgers from Costco for fortification and dinner.
jay every workout now at this stage is a small piece of the puzzle to keep fit ,find and regain some youth and be well,not kill yourself ,rest and get back and do what you can do if its chest/arms /back and you can work these parts pain free ,then do them 2 x a wk even,lay off the legs ,walk,do light extensions and thats it,cause legs are tough and doing them are hurting you and depressing you from doing the good parts you could train.stay off it and get motivated to keep the upper body trim/fit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 05, 2013, 08:56:14 PM
jay every workout now at this stage is a small piece of the puzzle to keep fit ,find and regain some youth and be well,not kill yourself ,rest and get back and do what you can do if its chest/arms /back and you can work these parts pain free ,then do them 2 x a wk even,lay off the legs ,walk,do light extensions and thats it,cause legs are tough and doing them are hurting you and depressing you from doing the good parts you could train.stay off it and get motivated to keep the upper body trim/fit.
Good advice.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 05, 2013, 09:52:25 PM
Karen you are a great Woman...
so People i trained Chest today...

Parallel bar Dips 5xmax(really getting into Dips, it really shapes my chest in a way Benches do not)
Flat DB flyes 5x12
Incline BB press 5x10

i like this combination of Dips, Flys and presses. I also like Dips with push ups...you are working the chest hard too and safely as push ups are safe when exhausted. However if doing BB incline i give my chest a small ..."rest" with DB flys....now if i pre-exhaust then of course itīs diffrent.
Thank you Donny.   :-*  I went to the doctor this morning.  Can't take this throat thing any longer.  I woke up from the pain during the night and couldn't get back to sleep.  I am on penicillan.  I will rest up for 24 hours and let the meds start working and then start training again or walking..which ever I can do. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 06, 2013, 03:24:51 AM
Thank you Donny.   :-*  I went to the doctor this morning.  Can't take this throat thing any longer.  I woke up from the pain during the night and couldn't get back to sleep.  I am on penicillin.  I will rest up for 24 hours and let the meds start working and then start training again or walking..which ever I can do. 
Reminds me of the Army Med Centre we had.. bunch of idiots. we had some civilian Doctors who worked in their too...drop Outs from the UK so they worked for the Army. I remember i had a really bad throat infection and i could hardly swallow my saliva never mind Food. I survived on soup .. anyway i went to the Med centre and this stupid woman Doctor said oh itīs OK go back to work. Anyway went to work and got sent home because i was in shit state. I went to a German Doctor who gave me Penicillin, was so strong when i pissed i smelled it ;D...after that i got better, first day back at work i was still weak and got told i was picked with a few others to represent the Regiment on a running Fitness test...i should have said i was still on medication but i did it...i struggled but passed it. I was running and was like high and could not feel my legs..i just went into a state of Zen.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 06, 2013, 03:29:39 AM
remember a Girl i was with had thrush ... now i was a Young Boy of 15/16 and was enjoying the fruits of her Body. i loved oral and so i got a throat infection from her. Now i went to the local surgery, and the doctor smiled at the Nurse(who was in the room too and examined my throat) and he asked me if i had a Girlfriend...i said yes and he explained how i got it... ;D The Nurse was really sexy and smiled at me...oh but it was great times....he he... :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 06, 2013, 10:22:07 AM
Thanks I'll try these.
this Looks good i think i will try it too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 06, 2013, 06:14:21 PM
Note to everyone...I haven't got this throat infection from anybody.   :'(

Anyway, I think it's slightly better this morning.  At least I don't feel as though I am swallowing razor blades.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 06, 2013, 08:00:22 PM
Note to everyone...I haven't got this throat infection from anybody.   :'(

Anyway, I think it's slightly better this morning.  At least I don't feel as though I am swallowing razor blades.
8)..salt water or epsom salt gargle,logenz,rest.get better chickie...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 06, 2013, 08:12:39 PM
8)..salt water or epsom salt gargle,logenz,rest.get better chickie...
Thank you Steve.  I am resting but not sleeping much.  Just had a protein shake with flaxseed oil.  It's my first shake in a week.  Thought I had better get back to normal eating.   ;D  I could always go to the beach and just hold my head under the water.   :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 06, 2013, 08:17:39 PM
Thank you Steve.  I am resting but not sleeping much.  Just had a protein shake with flaxseed oil.  It's my first shake in a week.  Thought I had better get back to normal eating.   ;D  I could always go to the beach and just hold my head under the water.   :P
:).shake sounds good.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 06, 2013, 08:34:02 PM
:).shake sounds good.
It's banana flavour.   :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 06, 2013, 10:30:58 PM
Thank you Steve.  I am resting but not sleeping much.  Just had a protein shake with flaxseed oil.  It's my first shake in a week.  Thought I had better get back to normal eating.   ;D  I could always go to the beach and just hold my head under the water.   :P
How can you do that? I am eating chocolate cupcakes now.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 06, 2013, 11:02:39 PM
How can you do that? I am eating chocolate cupcakes now.
I thought I was in the clear but then my throat got really painful again and so I had to take painkillers.  I have home made apple pie and cream.   :P  I don't have very good tastebuds at the moment though.  I was joking about holding my head under the water in the ocean.  If you jump in, you get full of salty water anyway. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 06, 2013, 11:14:36 PM
I thought I was in the clear but then my throat got really painful again and so I had to take painkillers.  I have home made apple pie and cream.   :P  I don't have very good tastebuds at the moment though.  I was joking about holding my head under the water in the ocean.  If you jump in, you get full of salty water anyway. 
Sorry hear it came back. I had a damn virus or something about two weeks ago stayed in bed 4 days "what does not kill us makes us stronger".

Front Squats
SL Deads
Military Press
Side Laterals
Barbell Curl
Pressdowns
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 06, 2013, 11:45:28 PM
Sorry hear it came back. I had a damn virus or something about two weeks ago stayed in bed 4 days "what does not kill us makes us stronger".

Front Squats
SL Deads
Military Press
Side Laterals
Barbell Curl
Pressdowns
No it hasn't gone yet...I am taking penicillan for it.  I just didn't feel as sore in my throat during the day but then this arvo it got bad again.  I had to take painkillers.  Nice workout...I am jealous.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 07, 2013, 05:38:34 AM
I thought I was in the clear but then my throat got really painful again and so I had to take painkillers.  I have home made apple pie and cream.   :P  I don't have very good tastebuds at the moment though.  I was joking about holding my head under the water in the ocean.  If you jump in, you get full of salty water anyway. 
I love apple pie :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 07, 2013, 06:08:18 AM
I love apple pie :P
I can't taste much at the moment because of throat.   :'( 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 07, 2013, 06:12:58 AM
I can't taste much at the moment because of throat.   :'( 
Throw down a Vegemite sandwich.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 07, 2013, 06:18:12 AM
Throw down a Vegemite sandwich.
I am drinking hot chocolate.  I can't stop coughing and I am hoping that a hot drink will sooth my dry tickly mouth.  I feel like chicken soup.  I might get some tomorrow from my fav thai place. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 07, 2013, 09:29:18 AM
Today was legs....

seated leg press 5x10
leg extensions 4x10-15
seated leg curls 4x10-15
lunges in the Smith machine 3x8-12
calf raises on machine 5x15

abs: crunch machine / 45 mins run.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 07, 2013, 02:28:39 PM
So I go to a restaurant today I see this old rich bitch like about 60 talking down to a young girl. I wanted to go up and say ok lets say you did not have a rich husband what you then, she was not very pretty but thought she was I bet she smelled. It just pissed me off a old bitch thinking she is hot.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 07, 2013, 05:49:28 PM
Today was legs....

seated leg press 5x10
leg extensions 4x10-15
seated leg curls 4x10-15
lunges in the Smith machine 3x8-12
calf raises on machine 5x15

abs: crunch machine / 45 mins run.

Today as well as yesterday was legs for me too....in  different way. I screwed things up so bad on Monday, I can barely stand, walk, lay down or sit for more then a couple of minutes before the pain kicks in. So at this moment all my focus is on my legs, well my right leg. It seems that the torn meniscus and the sciatica have decided to join forces to take me down. The hot pad, pain pills and sports cream are my friends although not very effective ones. I spend my day moving from the recliner to the bed. This is not the life I planned.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 07, 2013, 05:50:36 PM
I am drinking hot chocolate.  I can't stop coughing and I am hoping that a hot drink will sooth my dry tickly mouth.  I feel like chicken soup.  I might get some tomorrow from my fav thai place. 

Normally dairy and throat problems don't mix. Tea would be a better choice.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 07, 2013, 05:57:34 PM
So I go to a restaurant today I see this old rich bitch like about 60 talking down to a young girl. I wanted to go up and say ok lets say you did not have a rich husband what you then, she was not very pretty but thought she was I bet she smelled. It just pissed me off a old bitch thinking she is hot.

I live in a neighborhood where there are more than a couple of folks who think they are better then everyone else, particularly clerks in stores, such as Starbucks, thus treating them like dirt. When a young person acts rudely, one puts it down to their being immature brats. By the time someone is a senior citizen, then should have learned better behavior. Unfortunately, many folks have not.

My wife and I make a point of being friendly to people we meet. We have favorite wait staff who we regularly chat up when we go out to eat. We tip well too. These people don't make much money for sometimes demanding jobs. There are a lot of self-important people who get off on putting them down. It's disgusting.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 07, 2013, 06:26:58 PM
Normally dairy and throat problems don't mix. Tea would be a better choice.
I drank all my green tea, thats why I was going for the hot chocolates.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 07, 2013, 07:10:10 PM
I live in a neighborhood where there are more than a couple of folks who think they are better then everyone else, particularly clerks in stores, such as Starbucks, thus treating them like dirt. When a young person acts rudely, one puts it down to their being immature brats. By the time someone is a senior citizen, then should have learned better behavior. Unfortunately, many folks have not.

My wife and I make a point of being friendly to people we meet. We have favorite wait staff who we regularly chat up when we go out to eat. We tip well too. These people don't make much money for sometimes demanding jobs. There are a lot of self-important people who get off on putting them down. It's disgusting.
I hate that, maybe they will lose their money and br put in the same position.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 07, 2013, 07:35:47 PM
back
pullups x3 12-15
bent over rows 185x12/205x10/225x10/135x15
low pully row,180/195/210.10/10/9
reverse hammer pulldowns worked up to 2 45's single arm reps x3 10 reps per
tbar row inner grip chest to pad 2plates and 2 plates and 10 x2 8-10 reps

weighted hypersx3x12

bi's
premade bar straight bar curls 70x12/80x10/90x10/100x6
inc db curls 30/35/35 sets 10
seated curl machine elbow on pad x4

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 07, 2013, 08:23:02 PM
I drank all my green tea, thats why I was going for the hot chocolates.

I don't think dairy will make your throat sore, but it does make phlegm.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 07, 2013, 08:46:03 PM
I don't think dairy will make your throat sore, but it does make phlegm.
I drink soy so its not dairy. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 07, 2013, 10:11:42 PM
Back:


machine pulldowns (wide grip)  4 sets

one arm cable rows   4 sets

chest supported t bar rows  3 sets

machine pulldowns (close grip) 3 sets

hyperextensions (bodyweight) 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 08, 2013, 07:56:18 AM
Back:


machine pulldowns (wide grip)  4 sets

one arm cable rows   4 sets

chest supported t bar rows  3 sets

machine pulldowns (close grip) 3 sets

hyperextensions (bodyweight) 4 sets

nice, do do feel like youīre pre exhausting lats doing one arm cable rows before T bar rows ? more constant Tension before heavy rows..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 08, 2013, 08:47:57 AM
nice, do do feel like youīre pre exhausting lats doing one arm cable rows before T bar rows ? more constant Tension before heavy rows..
i always perform t bar rows towards the end of the back workout......rarely use more than a plate and maybe two quarters. it's all about the feeling of the exercise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 08, 2013, 05:51:14 PM
I been mad as hell all day. Damn service engine light came on my car. I jacked it up put on a B1 oxygen sensor drove around the block light is off now if it comes back on I'll have to go to a shop to run diagnostics. After that I trained I was in rage.

Bench
DB flye
Bent Rows
Close bench
Barbell curl
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 08, 2013, 08:05:41 PM
I been mad as hell all day. Damn service engine light came on my car. I jacked it up put on a B1 oxygen sensor drove around the block light is off now if it comes back on I'll have to go to a shop to run diagnostics. After that I trained I was in rage.

Bench
DB flye
Bent Rows
Close bench
Barbell curl


These things are the stuff of life. Don't let them have power over you. Anger is actually a negative emotion. I give you credit for putting your anger to good use though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 09, 2013, 12:03:48 AM
Yes good that you worked your anger into your workout Mr Nobody.  I am still sick and wondering when the dam thing will ease off.  I guess I did good to go 9 months without a flu or cold or anything. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 09, 2013, 01:32:08 AM
Yes good that you worked your anger into your workout Mr Nobody.  I am still sick and wondering when the dam thing will ease off.  I guess I did good to go 9 months without a flu or cold or anything.  
We got to get you better booty seems this has been going on awhile. Maybe allergy related. It's the rainy season there now right? A change of seasons tend to bring these things on. Try some vitamin C about 2 grams a day until this passes it's cheap and non-toxic you will piss out what you don't use boosts the immune system a know help for colds and viruses.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 09, 2013, 01:33:15 AM
These things are the stuff of life. Don't let them have power over you. Anger is actually a negative emotion. I give you credit for putting your anger to good use though.
Yes we need to channel negative emotions or they do damage.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 09, 2013, 02:19:34 AM
Yes we need to channel negative emotions or they do damage.
Yes it's like poison in the body.  How are you feeling now? 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 09, 2013, 02:23:53 AM
Yes it's like poison in the body.  How are you feeling now? 
Doing ok I got that damn light off on my car. See the deal is you cannot get you license tags renewed without inspection I got 7 days left. Time is ticking they will not pass your car for inspection if that service light is on. You feeling better?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 09, 2013, 04:54:04 AM
Doing ok I got that damn light off on my car. See the deal is you cannot get you license tags renewed without inspection I got 7 days left. Time is ticking they will not pass your car for inspection if that service light is on. You feeling better?
Not really. I have been sneezing a bit and its hard to breath as my chest is wheezy and tight. It's definitely a virus. I will just have to ride it out.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 09, 2013, 05:09:58 AM
Not really. I have been sneezing a bit and its hard to breath as my chest is wheezy and tight. It's definitely a virus. I will just have to ride it out.
I had that shit a few weeks ago stayed in bed about 4 days,. Sometimes all you can do is just get through it, try the vitamin C it will help the process.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 09, 2013, 07:52:13 AM
chest/biceps:


incline smith machine presses 4 sets

incline flyes  4 sets

cable crossovers  3 sets

seated machine presses 3 sets


concentration curls   5 sets

precor machine curls  5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 09, 2013, 02:16:32 PM
delts
front press x4
did sidelateral/front raise combo 25/30 lb dbells 3x gets great pump
upright rows x3
bent over rear laterals rear delt x3
seated behind neck press x2

traps shrugs 225/225/275/275/10-12 per set
2 sets rear behind back shrugs with hammer chest machine handles behind back 3 plates and 4 plates set 2

foearms reverse curls x3/cable curl behind back reverse wrist curl x3

calves standing calf raises toe in/flat /out x4 reps 15-24 perset..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 09, 2013, 03:23:21 PM
delts
front press x4
did sidelateral/front raise combo 25/30 lb dbells 3x gets great pump
upright rows x3
bent over rear laterals rear delt x3
seated behind neck press x2

traps shrugs 225/225/275/275/10-12 per set
2 sets rear behind back shrugs with hammer chest machine handles behind back 3 plates and 4 plates set 2

foearms reverse curls x3/cable curl behind back reverse wrist curl x3

calves standing calf raises toe in/flat /out x4 reps 15-24 perset..
Seems like a lot of front delt action, there NJ. How much time off until chest work?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 09, 2013, 04:58:18 PM
thurs nite i did delts ,monday next full chest workout so 3/4 days rest,,usually i only do fr press, if i do front raise i will do db press instead fr press,i just rolled with side delt/fr raise thing spontaneous after fr press.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 09, 2013, 05:01:37 PM
so jay u like leg updates,,, still hitting legs hard ,summer time worked on seperation/condition still pretty heavy/strong,but a bit less than winter heavy training.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 09, 2013, 11:10:44 PM
so jay u like leg updates,,, still hitting legs hard ,summer time worked on seperation/condition still pretty heavy/strong,but a bit less than winter heavy training.

You are evil!

Right at this moment I am reclining in the living room recliner. My right hamstring is aches bad. My right calf is still in knots. My shin feels like it is on fire. My foot is completely numb and feels like someone is sticking needles in the bottom of my foot.

I will get out of this chair in a minute or two and haul my broken ass to bed, limping all the way. If I am lucky, I might get some sleep tonight. Tomorrow I may decide to amputate my leg or get bloody drunk.

So please do show me how well developed you wheels are. It is such an inspiration.

By the way, I am just giving you a hard time! This episode will pass and when it does, I will be back at it.

Nice tan.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 10, 2013, 04:23:46 AM
You are evil!

Right at this moment I am reclining in the living room recliner. My right hamstring is aches bad. My right calf is still in knots. My shin feels like it is on fire. My foot is completely numb and feels like someone is sticking needles in the bottom of my foot.

I will get out of this chair in a minute or two and haul my broken ass to bed, limping all the way. If I am lucky, I might get some sleep tonight. Tomorrow I may decide to amputate my leg or get bloody drunk.

So please do show me how well developed you wheels are. It is such an inspiration.

By the way, I am just giving you a hard time! This episode will pass and when it does, I will be back at it.

Nice tan.
little evil yes,hope your leg gets better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 10, 2013, 09:20:02 AM
little evil yes,hope your leg gets better.

Everyday is a little better than the day before. It is just taking way too long to heal. I'd go to the doctor but there isn't much, if anything that can be done for sciatica flare ups.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 10, 2013, 01:08:19 PM
Everyday is a little better than the day before. It is just taking way too long to heal. I'd go to the doctor but there isn't much, if anything that can be done for sciatica flare ups.
hope you get better soon
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 10, 2013, 03:16:48 PM
tonight's workout:


leg extensions  6 sets

smith machine squats  4 sets

romanian deadlifts  4 sets

seated calf raises  5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 10, 2013, 05:38:03 PM
hope you get better soon

Sent you a question on Facebook. Have you seen it? I think I may have nicked the sciatic nerve last Monday when I gave myself my weekly test shot. Do you think that could be possible?

I have started doing exercises at home specific to sciatica. So far they have not made a huge difference.

Today I took my wife out for a shopping trip today and pushed her around in her wheelchair. The advantage for me was I had something to support me when I walked. I am sure the two of us were quite a sight to behold....limping guy pushing a wheelchair containing a woman on oxygen. I don't think anyone would question our parking in the handicapped zone. LOL! Note: my wife does have a permit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 11, 2013, 04:24:41 AM
Sent you a question on Facebook. Have you seen it? I think I may have nicked the sciatic nerve last Monday when I gave myself my weekly test shot. Do you think that could be possible?

I have started doing exercises at home specific to sciatica. So far they have not made a huge difference.

Today I took my wife out for a shopping trip today and pushed her around in her wheelchair. The advantage for me was I had something to support me when I walked. I am sure the two of us were quite a sight to behold....limping guy pushing a wheelchair containing a woman on oxygen. I don't think anyone would question our parking in the handicapped zone. LOL! Note: my wife does have a permit.
Thanks , iīll look later after work :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 11, 2013, 12:12:10 PM
crushed legs today...early breakfast eggbeater omlette/blueberry pancake'1'leftover ;D,cofee.off to gym

started with hacks warmed 2 plates/stretch/then 3 plates x12/4x10/5x10
leg press 5platesx12/6x10/7x8/7.5x5 stripped back to 5 then 10 more :o...
walking lunges 50 lb dbell walked x2
leg extensions 220 x3 12/12/12

hams
stiffleg dlift bar 135/185/225/245....12/10/10/10
seated leg curl 180x10/195x10/200 8-9 lost count dead...

calves seated raise/standing calf raise sets 3/4

still pumped hrs later had to mow lawn :-\,,kids to store for toy they wanted/sleep good 2 nite...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 11, 2013, 07:08:21 PM
chest and bis:


(pre exhaust the chest)


incline flyes   5 sets


push ups with feet elevated on the bench  4 sets


incline smith machine presses  4 sets


concentration curls  5 sets

precor machine curls  5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 12, 2013, 03:51:52 AM
chest and bis:


(pre exhaust the chest)


incline flyes   5 sets


push ups with feet elevated on the bench  4 sets


incline smith machine presses  4 sets


concentration curls  5 sets

precor machine curls  5 sets
I did push ups today as well for chest...

Parallel bar Dips 4xmax
push ups with push up bars 4xmax
flat DB flys 4x10-12

hanging knee raises 4x20-30
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 12, 2013, 03:52:53 AM
crushed legs today...early breakfast eggbeater omlette/blueberry pancake'1'leftover ;D,cofee.off to gym

started with hacks warmed 2 plates/stretch/then 3 plates x12/4x10/5x10
leg press 5platesx12/6x10/7x8/7.5x5 stripped back to 5 then 10 more :o...
walking lunges 50 lb dbell walked x2
leg extensions 220 x3 12/12/12

hams
stiffleg dlift bar 135/185/225/245....12/10/10/10
seated leg curl 180x10/195x10/200 8-9 lost count dead...

calves seated raise/standing calf raise sets 3/4

still pumped hrs later had to mow lawn :-\,,kids to store for toy they wanted/sleep good 2 nite...
Crushed legs...i like that Steve... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 12, 2013, 08:10:33 AM
I did push ups today as well for chest...

Parallel bar Dips 4xmax
push ups with push up bars 4xmax
flat DB flys 4x10-12

hanging knee raises 4x20-30
Hope you are doing well Donny!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 12, 2013, 07:42:36 PM
chest
fd press x4 hit 80's lo rep set then dropped to 60's for 8 more last set.getting there on these
inc press supesetted with inc flyes x3
hammer strenght mid press seated x3 last set did 3 plates per side for few good reps ,,long time to do this weight  so it felt good
finish superset cables crossover and dips x3

tri's
overhead rope outs x4
pushdowns x4
dip machine x3
2 sets cable extension x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 12, 2013, 08:42:08 PM
Made it to the gym today....hooray!

Worked arms

Weight 208

-Did the routine I've posted several times before, so I won't bore you with another repeat. The important thing is the workout went well. I got all the way through it and left the gym feeling pumped in more ways then one.

My leg didn't trouble me much while working out. I limped a little and that was about it. Tonight the ankle is swollen as usual and my foot feels like someone is sticking needles in it. All is good however because I have been able to sleep at night so I don't feel a drained as I did most of last week.

I have a day long meeting tomorrow. It isn't over until 4:00 p.m. and it is across town from the gym. I would normally work hams and calves tomorrow. If the stars align right and I can make it to the gym, I'll give it a shot. If not, I'll take that as a sign to lay off the legs for awhile longer.

As whatever fucked up my right leg gets better, the pain from the meniscal tear is more pronounced. I have pretty much decided I need to have it worked on. I see the doctor later this month.

Gave myself my testosterone injection this morning. I picked my left butt check for the injection. My left leg feels fine. I have definitely been grabbing at straws trying to figure out what is going on with my right leg. Who knows maybe it is all about favoring that knee because of the torn meniscus.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 13, 2013, 12:24:34 AM
Hope you are doing well Donny!
yes i am Ok thanks. Just been busy but i look in every day.. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 13, 2013, 02:16:01 AM
I feel selfish and self centred talking About my health after reading Jay and his wife's situation.  But I still have this virus. Coughing up phlegm from the chest. So haven't been able to train or do any cardio. Just trying to get 1-2 healthy meals in per day
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 13, 2013, 12:54:03 PM
Back and calves:

one arm db rows   3 sets

lat pulldowns  3 sets

Hammer Strength reverse grip rows  3 sets

hyperextensions  3 sets


seated calf raises  5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 13, 2013, 10:52:04 PM
Tuesday - no workout.

As I mentioned, I had an all day meeting today. Today would have been hams and calves. My right leg is still not well. I don't feel bad about nursing it along for a few more days.

After the meeting, I sauntered over to a bar where I enjoy the clientele and checked in on some of my friends I hadn't seen in awhile. Met this guy Dan who is in amazing shape at 51 years of age....almost as good a shape as me. He has stayed active since high school when he was a wrestling all star. Not all high school jocks become fat slobs it seems. -nice guy, looking forward to talking with him some more in the future.

When I got home at 7:00 p.m. my wife had made spar ribs extraordinaire, which she served with corn and broccoli. You all would be lucky to have an amazing women in your life like my wife and I hope you all do.

This morning we talked on the phone to our son and daughter-in-law on the phone for over an hour and a half. They had a wonderful 25th wedding anniversary party. In truth Bavarian fashion, the party didn't break up until 4:00 a.m. I was happy to hear they are going to take a Mediterranean cruise next month instead of spending two weeks in Dubi. I was a bit nervous for them to be in Dubi these days with all the unrest. While I was at the meeting our daughter called to let us know all was good with them in El Paso. I plan to call her back tomorrow.

Life is good!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 13, 2013, 10:54:32 PM
I feel selfish and self centred talking About my health after reading Jay and his wife's situation.  But I still have this virus. Coughing up phlegm from the chest. So haven't been able to train or do any cardio. Just trying to get 1-2 healthy meals in per day

No need to feel guilty. Ill health is no picnic, particularly when it is your health that is compromised. Keep hanging in there Booty and keep up your strength. You will be well in no time. I can just feel it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 13, 2013, 10:58:33 PM
Back and calves:

one arm db rows   3 sets

lat pulldowns  3 sets

Hammer Strength reverse grip rows  3 sets

hyperextensions  3 sets


seated calf raises  5 sets
i like it ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 13, 2013, 11:04:39 PM
No need to feel guilty. Ill health is no picnic, particularly when it is your health that is compromised. Keep hanging in there Booty and keep up your strength. You will be well in no time. I can just feel it.
Thanks Jay.  I booked to see the doctor again tomorrow morning.  I feel that the antibiotics weren't strong enough to rid me of this chest infection.  My body is set at a higher level after that 18 months of being on them constantly when I had the sinus infections.  They don't work on me anymore unless very high strength. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 13, 2013, 11:15:37 PM
Thanks Jay.  I booked to see the doctor again tomorrow morning.  I feel that the antibiotics weren't strong enough to rid me of this chest infection.  My body is set at a higher level after that 18 months of being on them constantly when I had the sinus infections.  They don't work on me anymore unless very high strength. 

Not only that, but the viruses keep getting stronger. Just be happy you aren't in my wife's situation. Because her health is so compromised, her kidneys cannot handle strong antibiotics. She was stuck having to take a weaker antibiotic and keep repeating it until her bronchial infection was gone.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 13, 2013, 11:28:38 PM
Not only that, but the viruses keep getting stronger. Just be happy you aren't in my wife's situation. Because her health is so compromised, her kidneys cannot handle strong antibiotics. She was stuck having to take a weaker antibiotic and keep repeating it until her bronchial infection was gone.
That's terrible Jay.  I am so sorry to hear this. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 13, 2013, 11:54:03 PM
That's terrible Jay.  I am so sorry to hear this. 

It is terrible for her. Take good care of your health. While I don't blame my wife for her ill health, she ignored a lot of signs that things weren't going well through the years and ended up waiting until it was too late to fix a lot of the health problems she has. Of course there is no guarantee that they wouldn't have happened anyway.

I am not a religious person, but I will readily say that our health is a gift as are our bodies. It is a sin to abuse that gift in my opinion....perhaps one of the worst sins we commit. Some folks are born with health problems, but many folks create them by showing disregard for their good health by eating poorly, not exercising and allowing stress to alter their lives.

I don't want to come off all pious about this. I am hardly perfect myself. I sometimes drink too much alcohol. I occasionally eat foods which are unhealthy and when it comes to allowing stress into my life I have poor resistance. So while I know what is right and good health wise, I don't always follow my own knowledge. Humans are imperfect and that just is the way it is.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 14, 2013, 10:17:42 PM
Worked back today.

Weight 205 lbs.

After sitting on the phone with Xfinity for over an hour and not getting anything accomplished, I was more then ready to hit the gym, if for no other reason then to work off a little frustration.

The good thing about back exercises is you do most of them sitting down. I did the routine I posted many times before. I dialed the weight down on a couple of movements and concentrated on doing the exercise and strictly and slowly as possible. All-in-all, I feel like I had a good workout, hobbling from one station to the next. I kept my rest times to a minute or less. I'll know by Friday if I accomplished anything since I usually get a little sore the second day.

All this farting around with my leg has really put a hole in my routine. Each day when I work out, I realize that it has been nearly a month since the previous one. That's not good and it is going to stop!

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 15, 2013, 12:02:36 AM
Yesterday  was legs....

i was in the Gym 1 hour before opening so i could move around freely...we are not open 24 hours.

Tri set...
Leg press 3x10-15
front squats (Smith machine)3x10
lunges (Smith machine) 3x10

tri sets....
seated leg curls3x10-15
romanian deadlifts 3x10-15
Hyperextensions 3x10-15(on the 45 degree bench it really finishes off my hams,glutes and lower back)

this was more than i normally do and was very productive. I will hit shoulders today with ...

Smith machine seated front press 4x10
seated DB side raises 4x10-12
rear delt machine 4x10-12
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 15, 2013, 12:34:23 PM
Yesterday  was legs....

i was in the Gym 1 hour before opening so i could move around freely...we are not open 24 hours.

Tri set...
Leg press 3x10-15
front squats (Smith machine)3x10
lunges (Smith machine) 3x10

tri sets....
seated leg curls3x10-15
romanian deadlifts 3x10-15
Hyperextensions 3x10-15(on the 45 degree bench it really finishes off my hams,glutes and lower back)

this was more than i normally do and was very productive. I will hit shoulders today with ...

Smith machine seated front press 4x10
seated DB side raises 4x10-12
rear delt machine 4x10-12
holy shit thought I was staring at my workout..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 15, 2013, 12:46:10 PM
holy shit thought I was staring at my workout..
Steve i doubt if i use your weight..but intensity i do.. i love to feel the fatigue, weights or running i give 100% .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 15, 2013, 12:47:24 PM
Steve i doubt if i use your weight..but intensity i do.. i love to feel the fatigue, weights or running i give 100% .
8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 15, 2013, 01:16:33 PM
Steve i doubt if i use your weight..but intensity i do.. i love to feel the fatigue, weights or running i give 100% .

I think because the leg problem is sapping my energy, I have slightly lightened the resistance throughout my routine until things get back to normal. Normal meaning that I hit each muscle group at least once each week.

What I find interesting is that by concentrating form and doing everything slowly and deliberately, I am actually feeling it more. I don't mean in a "Wow am I sore!" kind of way, but more of a good feeling where the soreness is more like an awareness of my muscles even when I am not working out. Pretty soon I will be strutting around like a full blown bodybuilder. LOL!

I haven't worked legs since the fiasco a week and a half ago. I am approaching Saturday which is a usual leg day for me. I am not making any plans yet. I'll see how the pain is when Saturday comes. I may do a really light resistance leg workout just to keep things moving.

Any suggestions are welcome.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 15, 2013, 01:35:17 PM
I think because the leg problem is sapping my energy, I have slightly lightened the resistance throughout my routine until things get back to normal. Normal meaning that I hit each muscle group at least once each week.

What I find interesting is that by concentrating form and doing everything slowly and deliberately, I am actually feeling it more. I don't mean in a "Wow am I sore!" kind of way, but more of a good feeling where the soreness is more like an awareness of my muscles even when I am not working out. Pretty soon I will be strutting around like a full blown bodybuilder. LOL!

I haven't worked legs since the fiasco a week and a half ago. I am approaching Saturday which is a usual leg day for me. I am not making any plans yet. I'll see how the pain is when Saturday comes. I may do a really light resistance leg workout just to keep things moving.

Any suggestions are welcome.
Jay stick to Leg press
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 15, 2013, 01:47:17 PM
Jay stick to Leg press

I had not planned on doing regular squats. I thought I would try some light hack squats just to see how they felt; what do you think? I also intended to do high volume leg extensions with low resistance and doing each leg independently. There is no way I can do lunges right now. I barely have enough balance to stay upright on two legs much less one.  ???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 15, 2013, 02:55:34 PM
I had not planned on doing regular squats. I thought I would try some light hack squats just to see how they felt; what do you think? I also intended to do high volume leg extensions with low resistance and doing each leg independently. There is no way I can do lunges right now. I barely have enough balance to stay upright on two legs much less one.  ???
LEG PRESS ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 15, 2013, 05:18:16 PM
Thanks Jay.  I booked to see the doctor again tomorrow morning.  I feel that the antibiotics weren't strong enough to rid me of this chest infection.  My body is set at a higher level after that 18 months of being on them constantly when I had the sinus infections.  They don't work on me anymore unless very high strength. 
You feel better you seem a bit more upbeat.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 15, 2013, 05:24:00 PM
I had not planned on doing regular squats. I thought I would try some light hack squats just to see how they felt; what do you think? I also intended to do high volume leg extensions with low resistance and doing each leg independently. There is no way I can do lunges right now. I barely have enough balance to stay upright on two legs much less one.  ???
My opinion only. Squats are the best thing you can do no matter the weight slow and under control if you can get your balance back. They fixed a knee issue I had from playing football, extensions only irritated the condition. It's a natural movement however if you can't do them as donny suggested leg press.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 15, 2013, 07:24:56 PM
back /bi's,,, usually a day ago,, had a scare with 4 yr old my little pumpkin  ;Dwas on a slide little one in back yard and fell backwards of it so say's my almost 8 yr old :P and landed on arm she broke in 2 places last yr summertime ,well she cried blood curdling scream we took her to emergency room and xrays came back negatitive thank god cause it was a pain having cast arm whole summer last yr,,very sore and she will not use it her arm ,its only a day so we will see,,,anyway

back
hammer reverse pulldown x4 worked up to 2 45's and 25 per side last set for 6 and dropped to 2 plates for another 8 ,,good heavy weight /set
tbar row regular version x4 inner grip set 's 10 worked heaviest set close to 4 plates's on front..
low cable row with longer bar not usual close handle one x3
one arm db row 80/90/95 all done 10/10/10
pulldown i standup attach wide bar on hi part pully stand in front slight bend at waist pull bar in to lower stomach/hip area squeeze x3

weighted hypers x3

bi's
db curl 40/45/45
seated curl x3
curls with straight bar x3 95 ,,10/8/8/
rope curl lower cable version x3

abs superset crunches with roman chair side to side raise

clocked in 1:15 on workout
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 15, 2013, 11:24:00 PM
My opinion only. Squats are the best thing you can do no matter the weight slow and under control if you can get your balance back. They fixed a knee issue I had from playing football, extensions only irritated the condition. It's a natural movement however if you can't do them as donny suggested leg press.

Thanks for the advice. I know that squats are the be all end all exercise. I cannot wait to get back to doing them. What worries me is the torn meniscus. Once I get this resolved, I hope to get back to squatting. One thing I remember about doing them is how pumped they get you. Yes they tax your energy like crazy while doing them, but afterwards you feel like a warrior.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 15, 2013, 11:32:25 PM
Incidentally, I worked delts today.

Weight 206

Again, I won't detail the routine because it is just the same routine I have posted it before. On all but one exercise, I used the same resistance I used three weeks ago which I think is pretty great. I actually worked them to failure on a couple of exercises. On all the other movements, I maintained the resistance and still concentrated on form.

Delt day is also abs day. Since I don't worry about resistance when doing abs, they were no problem. Of course, I do high reps on these exercises. I did notice that I was somewhat burnt out from the delt/trap exercises, but I soldiered on anyway. Thursday's routine is the longest one of the entire week. You should be proud of me. I am of myself.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 16, 2013, 07:04:00 PM
delts changed it up ..
standing front press x4
side laterals x3 and 1 drop set
bent over seated rear delt raises x3
cable uprights x3
finished 2 sets standing db press

shrugs x4 and 2 sets 20 rep 45 lb plate per hand at sides and pull up/hold/squeeze

forarms reverse curls,reverse cable wrist curls

calves standing calf raise x5...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 16, 2013, 08:19:03 PM
Took a nap this afternoon and missed the gym. Tomorrow I will work chest. The problem was that we woke up too damn early so we could attend a breakfast meeting with fellow retirees. I am never up as early as 7:30 a.m. Come 4:00 p.m. and I was ready for bed.  ;)

My wife made the most delicious Asian chicken salad for dinner:

Chicken
Shredded Napa and red cabbage
Chopped green onions
Water chestnuts
Shredded carrots
Fresh ginger
Asian sesame salad dressing....with a little kick.

French roll w/butter

This was a healthy and yummy meal.

Later we will have peach and lemon sorbet.

It has been unusually humid for this part of the country the past few days. I did some gardening and was drenched in a way that suggested I'd taken a shower in my clothes. For some of you this may not seem unusual, but I rarely sweat.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 17, 2013, 03:01:13 PM
Took a nap this afternoon and missed the gym. Tomorrow I will work chest. The problem was that we woke up too damn early so we could attend a breakfast meeting with fellow retirees. I am never up as early as 7:30 a.m. Come 4:00 p.m. and I was ready for bed.  ;)

My wife made the most delicious Asian chicken salad for dinner:

Chicken
Shredded Napa and red cabbage
Chopped green onions
Water chestnuts
Shredded carrots
Fresh ginger
Asian sesame salad dressing....with a little kick.

French roll w/butter

This was a healthy and yummy meal.

Later we will have peach and lemon sorbet.

It has been unusually humid for this part of the country the past few days. I did some gardening and was drenched in a way that suggested I'd taken a shower in my clothes. For some of you this may not seem unusual, but I rarely sweat.


you are lucky she Cooks good ;D Today was a work Day in the Gym. I have my Weekend rest from Training but i like to throw in some calf raises and abs. I actually integrate a few sets with Training People so i am always Training muscles i want to work on.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 17, 2013, 04:47:05 PM
you are lucky she Cooks good ;D Today was a work Day in the Gym. I have my Weekend rest from Training but i like to throw in some calf raises and abs. I actually integrate a few sets with Training People so i am always Training muscles i want to work on.

I am on my weekend "rest" too. Instead of hitting the gym, I worked in the yard for 5 hours.

As payback for cooking such a great dinner last night, I am taking my wife out for dinner tonight. She's been wanting to go to this Portland barbecue restaurant she saw on show on television called Podnah's Pit. It is way across town, but what the heck, I like barbecue too. http://www.podnahspit.com/ (http://www.podnahspit.com/) Hope it is delicious.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 17, 2013, 04:57:28 PM
I am on my weekend "rest" too. Instead of hitting the gym, I worked in the yard for 5 hours.

As payback for cooking such a great dinner last night, I am taking my wife out for dinner tonight. She's been wanting to go to this Portland barbecue restaurant she saw on show on television called Podnah's Pit. It is way across town, but what the heck, I like barbecue too. http://www.podnahspit.com/ (http://www.podnahspit.com/) Hope it is delicious.
you and your wife enjoy your meal together.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 18, 2013, 02:41:02 PM
hope everyone is well and feeling good,and all...busy wknd worked sat :Pno gym,today sunday family breakfast/in laws lunch :o,,so basement
workout for me,unfortunatley legs enough to get pump my machine does hamstring standing curls,quad extensions too..

so i did extensions,leg curls,stiff legged db ,squat thrusts,lunges,calf raises about 20 or sets all together repped hi ,just pump..
quads looked ripped in good basement light ;),,, ;D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 19, 2013, 10:31:37 AM
CHEST ;D
Parallel bar Dips 4xmax
push ups using push up bars 4xmax
flat bench flys 4x10

hanging knee raises wearing ankle weights 4x15-20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 19, 2013, 11:23:00 AM
CHEST ;D
Parallel bar Dips 4xmax
push ups using push up bars 4xmax
flat bench flys 4x10

hanging knee raises wearing ankle weights 4x15-20
Nice workout Donny, low volume high intensity. Dips are king.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 19, 2013, 01:11:22 PM
ARMS AND TRAPS:


MACHINE DIPS   4 SETS


SMITH MACHINE CLOSE GRIP  3 SETS


OVERHEAD CABLE EXTENSIONS  3 SETS


HAMMER CURLS   8 SETS


DB SHRUGS  4 SETS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 19, 2013, 08:10:37 PM
chest
hammer lay down press x4
inc dbell x3
inc flye x3
seated hammer mid press x3
dips x2 x15

tris
dip machine seated x4
rope pulldowns x3
close grip bench x3
lying db extensions x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 20, 2013, 12:43:00 AM
Nice workout Donny, low volume high intensity. Dips are king.
yes i like Dips, i have went through periods of doing just Dips and undergrip pull ups for upper Body.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 20, 2013, 04:05:17 AM
yes i like Dips, i have went through periods of doing just Dips and undergrip pull ups for upper Body.
Those two are king for upper body, add in squats you got a whole workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 20, 2013, 06:05:13 AM
Those two are king for upper body, add in squats you got a whole workout.
I do dips every chest workout hi rep no added weight needed .more weight you add to waist more chance delts are getting hurt at least 4 me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 20, 2013, 10:44:23 AM
I do dips every chest workout hi rep no added weight needed .more weight you add to waist more chance delts are getting hurt at least 4 me.
Those are good no doubt. Negative dips are good as well once I had trouble with chest I did negative only dips on the nautilus machine 240 with a 25 pinned on the side those worked very well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 20, 2013, 10:46:14 AM
I am on my weekend "rest" too. Instead of hitting the gym, I worked in the yard for 5 hours.

As payback for cooking such a great dinner last night, I am taking my wife out for dinner tonight. She's been wanting to go to this Portland barbecue restaurant she saw on show on television called Podnah's Pit. It is way across town, but what the heck, I like barbecue too. http://www.podnahspit.com/ (http://www.podnahspit.com/) Hope it is delicious.
Prime how are your joints at your age ankles knees etc.?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 20, 2013, 02:31:38 PM
Prime how are your joints at your age ankles knees etc.?

Until recently, they were fine.

Sometime back, I started having issues with sciatica, which now affects my entire right leg and foot. Initially, it would flare up only when I was driving long distance and I could relieve the cramping in my right hamstring by getting out of the car doing some, squats, toe touches and often just by walking some. More recently, an MRI revealed that I have a torn meniscus in my right leg. I've seen a doctor regarding this and will probably have arthroscopic repairs done shortly. It seems possible to me that my gait is off because of the pain from the torn meniscus which somehow has aggravated the sciatic nerve causing cramping in my calf, pain in my shins and numbness throughout my right foot.

In other words, my right leg is a mess right now.

What I have which is definitely age related and perhaps somewhat genetic since my mom had arthritis pain is osteoarthritis in my hands, back and knees. I doubt this condition was caused by weight training. If fact, I think weight training has actually helped keep it at bay. Supposedly, resistance training is recommended for people who suffer from arthritis.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on August 20, 2013, 04:04:52 PM
Hey guys thought I would see if it's cool to start posting here. I am 56. Back after 2 rotator cuff surgeries. Running GH/Test/Var

Arms today
one arm pushdowns ss with one arm high cable curls 3 sets
one arm cable extensions ss with one arm low pulley curls 3 sets
barbell curls ss with overhead rope extensions 3 sets
hammer curls ss with rope pushdowns w/pause 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 20, 2013, 05:48:09 PM
Hey guys thought I would see if it's cool to start posting here. I am 56. Back after 2 rotator cuff surgeries. Running GH/Test/Var

Arms today
one arm pushdowns ss with one arm high cable curls 3 sets
one arm cable extensions ss with one arm low pulley curls 3 sets
barbell curls ss with overhead rope extensions 3 sets
hammer curls ss with rope pushdowns w/pause 3 sets
welcome to getbig.... looks like a solid arm workout!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 21, 2013, 02:32:09 AM
Hey guys thought I would see if it's cool to start posting here. I am 56. Back after 2 rotator cuff surgeries. Running GH/Test/Var

Arms today
one arm pushdowns ss with one arm high cable curls 3 sets
one arm cable extensions ss with one arm low pulley curls 3 sets
barbell curls ss with overhead rope extensions 3 sets
hammer curls ss with rope pushdowns w/pause 3 sets
Are you doing alot of one arm movements due to the shoulder injury? Welcome aboard.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on August 21, 2013, 05:59:50 AM
Are you doing alot of one arm movements due to the shoulder injury? Welcome aboard.

Thanks...not really...I pretty much decide what I am going to do when I walk in the gym. Believe it or not the shoulders don't bother me in the gym only sleeping!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 21, 2013, 08:56:28 AM
Legs today...

leg extensions 3x10-15 Superset with
seated leg press 3x10
leg curls 3x10-15 superset with
stiff deads (Dumbbells) 3x10-15

calf raises on machine 5x15

machine crunches 4x10-15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 21, 2013, 08:57:51 AM
Legs today...

leg extensions 3x10-15 Superset with
seated leg press 3x10
leg curls 3x10-15 superset with
stiff deads (Dumbbells) 3x10-15

calf raises on machine 5x15

machine crunches 4x10-15
NICE...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 21, 2013, 09:02:11 AM
NICE...
well it was enough today for me. i was running early this morning and did this later in the afternoon. Just decided to do 3 sets on each and some stiff deads. We only have a seated leg press but it works OK. I have a big bowl of Vanilla ice cream to eat now... ;D funny i can eat loads of it and never put on any noticable fat. Ok i run a lot.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 21, 2013, 09:04:22 AM
well it was enough today for me. i was running early this morning and did this later in the afternoon. Just decided to do 3 sets on each and some stiff deads. We only have a seated leg press but it works OK. I have a big bowl of Vanilla ice cream to eat now... ;D funny i can eat loads of it and never put on any noticable fat. Ok i run a lot.
I had icecream last night woke up veiny,deep abs  :), :P, 8),seated leg press are great we have a lying version long sled can do ham's higher feet go up,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on August 21, 2013, 09:09:28 AM
Same here with the ice cream...I have a little place near me that makes homemade ice cream...The Frank Sinatra...apricot nectar with dark chocolate....sick.

Legs/Abs...4iu Seros pre-workout

leg curls 5 sets...drop set on last set
SL DL 3 sets
leg extensions 5 sets...drop set on last set.
Leg Presses 3X20
Seated cal ss with standing calf 3 sets
kneeling rope abs ss with hanging leg raises 4 sets

When you are running good pharma GH ( not to mention a little Clen and T4) and you hit your macros...broccoli and fish isn't all you can eat!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 21, 2013, 09:26:37 AM
I had icecream last night woke up veiny,deep abs  :), :P, 8),seated leg press are great we have a lying version long sled can do ham's higher feet go up,,,
I love squats but i also like to throw in some leg press in. seated press is good if your lower back is still tired from back training or running. i will eat another Bowl...F*ck it.. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 21, 2013, 09:28:26 AM
Same here with the ice cream...I have a little place near me that makes homemade ice cream...The Frank Sinatra...apricot nectar with dark chocolate....sick.

Legs/Abs...4iu Seros pre-workout

leg curls 5 sets...drop set on last set
SL DL 3 sets
leg extensions 5 sets...drop set on last set.
Leg Presses 3X20
Seated cal ss with standing calf 3 sets
kneeling rope abs ss with hanging leg raises 4 sets

When you are running good pharma GH ( not to mention a little Clen and T4) and you hit your macros...broccoli and fish isn't all you can eat!
THERE YA GO,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 21, 2013, 05:58:15 PM
I walked around the block today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 21, 2013, 06:12:33 PM
Thanks...not really...I pretty much decide what I am going to do when I walk in the gym. Believe it or not the shoulders don't bother me in the gym only sleeping!

Sounds like my knee. It doesn't so much hurt when I am working legs....but yikes, sometimes I get no sleep what-so-ever as a result of knee and sciatica pain.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 21, 2013, 06:14:43 PM
I walked around the block today.

You are one up on me. I took my car to Oil Can Henry's for an oil change, went to the bank, post office and Starbucks with my wife for Chai Frappuccino's. Not only that, I slept until noon. Guess I am just in a really lazy mood today. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 21, 2013, 06:18:45 PM
Same here with the ice cream...I have a little place near me that makes homemade ice cream...The Frank Sinatra...apricot nectar with dark chocolate....sick.

Legs/Abs...4iu Seros pre-workout

leg curls 5 sets...drop set on last set
SL DL 3 sets
leg extensions 5 sets...drop set on last set.
Leg Presses 3X20
Seated cal ss with standing calf 3 sets
kneeling rope abs ss with hanging leg raises 4 sets

When you are running good pharma GH ( not to mention a little Clen and T4) and you hit your macros...broccoli and fish isn't all you can eat!

I love homemade ice cream. When I was a kid and lived for awhile with cousins on their dairy farm, we'd make hand cranked homemade ice cream. It is a great memory to have. For some reason this summer, I have been having sorbet instead of ice cream. My favorites are lime and lemon sorbet.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 21, 2013, 06:26:37 PM
You are one up on me. I took my car to Oil Can Henry's for an oil change, went to the bank, post office and Starbucks with my wife for Chai Frappuccino's. Not only that, I slept until noon. Guess I am just in a really lazy mood today. 
I change my my own oil, but then I got to clean my nails. Damn man you keep going at your age my father died at 72 amazing that you can keep rolling. A friend of mine I used to train fell  trying to get his dog from running out of the house severed two arteries in his arm busted through a glass window. Sad I tried calling him no answer he works construction so he will not be able to work for awhile.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 21, 2013, 07:40:21 PM
back
chins x3
t bar row x4
low pully row x3
hammer machine pulldown x3
one arm db row x2

lower back weighted hypers x3

bi's
straight bar curls x3
db alt curls x3
seat padded curl machine x3
hammers done together x2

abs

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 21, 2013, 09:39:44 PM
I change my my own oil, but then I got to clean my nails. Damn man you keep going at your age my father died at 72 amazing that you can keep rolling. A friend of mine I used to train fell  trying to get his dog from running out of the house severed two arteries in his arm busted through a glass window. Sad I tried calling him no answer he works construction so he will not be able to work for awhile.

It's a bitch when this kind of shit happens. I've heard that most accidents happen at home. Hope your friend is okay.

I used to change my own oil back in the day when I couldn't justify the expense of having someone do it for me. It is a big chore for me because I am claustrophobic and getting under a car gives me a panic attack. I was never smart enough to wear oil changing clothes and would invariably ruin something I was wearing. I may have done this subconsciously to convince myself that changing my own oil was not worth it.

Oil Can Henry's oil change cost me $31 with a $10 discount. I only change the oil every 5,000 miles which means I have it done about twice a year. Every other time, I take the car in the shop at my regular mechanic so he can check everything out to make sure all is good. My car runs like new. It has 114,000 miles on it and it is a 2004 model.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 21, 2013, 09:50:41 PM
It's a bitch when this kind of shit happens. I've heard that most accidents happen at home. Hope your friend is okay.

I used to change my own oil back in the day when I couldn't justify the expense of having someone do it for me. It is a big chore for me because I am claustrophobic and getting under a car gives me a panic attack. I was never smart enough to wear oil changing clothes and would invariably ruin something I was wearing. I may have done this subconsciously to convince myself that changing my own oil was not worth it.

Oil Can Henry's oil change cost me $31 with a $10 discount. I only change the oil every 5,000 miles which means I have it done about twice a year. Every other time, I take the car in the shop at my regular mechanic so he can check everything out to make sure all is good. My car runs like new. It has 114,000 miles on it and it is a 2004 model.
He never called back the friend with the severed arm I hope he is ok, being in that position understood probably a bunch of people calling. He came to my house once after years of no contact I used to train him his life has been sad his two brothers died in accidents and his dad died of heart attack. So being the person I am after hearing of the accident called him got VM.

So $21 not bad you don't have to get dirty and the oil and filter will cost about the same.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 22, 2013, 08:44:02 AM
so in between all the fun here i trained shoulders...

Tri set...

seated DB press 4x10
seated side raises 4x12
seated bent over laterals 4x12

crunches (feet on bench) 3x max

calf raises on machine 5x15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on August 22, 2013, 10:55:22 AM
Hello you old fellow geezers....delts/traps today....4iu Seros pre-workout..and 250 Test/150NPP

bent over laterals 3 sets
reverse incline bench rear laterals 3 sets
cable rear laterals 2 sets
one arm side laterals up and down the rack 2X
seated smith presses 4 sets
DB shrugs 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 22, 2013, 10:57:17 AM
Hello you old fellow geezers....delts/traps today....4iu Seros pre-workout..and 250 Test/150NPP

bent over laterals 3 sets
reverse incline bench rear laterals 3 sets
cable rear laterals 2 sets
one arm side laterals up and down the rack 2X
seated smith presses 4 sets
DB shrugs 4 sets
LOT OF REAR DELT WORK ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 22, 2013, 11:06:06 AM
old geezers... ;D aint heard that in years
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on August 22, 2013, 11:14:00 AM
LOT OF REAR DELT WORK ?

Yea I know....too much BP in PL days.....Trying to make up for it. besides it looks cool ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 22, 2013, 11:20:58 AM
Yea I know....too much BP in PL days.....Trying to make up for it. besides it looks cool ;D
I LIKE THE MOVEMENTS AND DO ALL 3 U DO ,JUST NOT IN ONE DAY/SESSION ;D...I LIKE 2 MOVEMENTS AT TIMES I'LL DO EXTRA.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 22, 2013, 12:12:38 PM
He never called back the friend with the severed arm I hope he is ok, being in that position understood probably a bunch of people calling. He came to my house once after years of no contact I used to train him his life has been sad his two brothers died in accidents and his dad died of heart attack. So being the person I am after hearing of the accident called him got VM.

So $21 not bad you don't have to get dirty and the oil and filter will cost about the same.

Don't want to mislead you. The regular price for an Oil Can Henry's oil change and 15 point check-up is $39 plus $2 for recycling the old oil, totaling $41. I had a $10 off coupon. I paid $31 not $21. I still think it is worth it.

Your friend has been though hell, it seems. Of course as one gets older the likelihood of friends and relatives dying increases. When death is most shocking is when it is the result of an accident or an illness not related to old age. My nephew died in a car accident when he was 10 years old. My little sister died of oat cell lung cancer when she was barely 50 years old. These deaths were unexpected and hard to comprehend. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on August 22, 2013, 12:14:22 PM
I LIKE THE MOVEMENTS AND DO ALL 3 U DO ,JUST NOT IN ONE DAY/SESSION ;D...I LIKE 2 MOVEMENTS AT TIMES I'LL DO EXTRA.

I forget your up north in Jersey right? I am down by Philly.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 22, 2013, 12:28:31 PM
I forget your up north in Jersey right? I am down by Philly.
YEAH.WIFE WENT TO SCHOOL THERE.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on August 22, 2013, 12:42:53 PM
YEAH.WIFE WENT TO SCHOOL THERE.

Cool...stronger than the storm ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 22, 2013, 07:55:31 PM
took a cue from k bordner

i do calves 1st on delt day did standing calf raises

delts
fr press smith x4 with drop last set
did k bordners run the rack side delts 30/25/20/15 10 per x2 wicked pump
rear delt machine x3
bent over rear delt raise x2
uprights  pre made curl bar inner grip x3

shrugs front x3 and rear x2 on hammer chest press

forarms reverse curl x3,weighted rope rolls x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 23, 2013, 08:30:49 PM
Thought I was going to work delts yesterday but got sidetracked. Instead I spent all afternoon touring the Northwest Natural 2013 Street of Dreams homes, http://www.streetofdreamspdx.com/ (http://www.streetofdreamspdx.com/). This is a fun gift I give myself every year since it takes place during my birthday month. I really enjoyed myself and the homes were filled with ideas that I cannot afford to use....but, so what. After 3 and a half hours of walking up and down stairs, my leg was killing me. All I could think of was coming home and stretching out in the recliner with ice on my ankle. So, no delts yesterday.

Today I got with the program and worked chest. It has been a month since my last pec workout. I decided to see if I could do what I did a month ago and I succeeded. -No increases in resistance or the number of sets or reps and yet I felt really good at the end the routine which I knocked off in about an hour. There is no sense in posting the details since they have been posted previously. Tomorrow is quads and calves....well see. The last time I did this routine it knocked me out of the game for over a week.

I see the doctor midweek next week to discuss surgery on my knee. At this point, my feeling is lets just do it. I am not getting better on my own and my knee and leg pain is totally sapping all my energy anyway which is destroying my workout routine. Something needs to change and change quick. I am done with this shit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 23, 2013, 08:52:44 PM
Thought I was going to work delts yesterday but got sidetracked. Instead I spent all afternoon touring the Northwest Natural 2013 Street of Dreams homes, http://www.streetofdreamspdx.com/ (http://www.streetofdreamspdx.com/). This is a fun gift I give myself every year since it takes place during my birthday month. I really enjoyed myself and the homes were filled with ideas that I cannot afford to use....but, so what. After 3 and a half hours of walking up and down stairs, my leg was killing me. All I could think of was coming home and stretching out in the recliner with ice on my ankle. So, no delts yesterday.

Today I got with the program and worked chest. It has been a month since my last pec workout. I decided to see if I could do what I did a month ago and I succeeded. -No increases in resistance or the number of sets or reps and yet I felt really good at the end the routine which I knocked off in about an hour. There is no sense in posting the details since they have been posted previously. Tomorrow is quads and calves....well see. The last time I did this routine it knocked me out of the game for over a week.

I see the doctor midweek next week to discuss surgery on my knee. At this point, my feeling is lets just do it. I am not getting better on my own and my knee and leg pain is totally sapping all my energy anyway which is destroying my workout routine. Something needs to change and change quick. I am done with this shit.
pulling 4 ya jay....get better
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on August 24, 2013, 06:19:15 AM
Major shoulder issues again....both...can't sleep.....I guess it's the price of getting old...Can't do dips at all right now.
Arms again...because I felt like it(Friday) 4iu Seros pre-workout.

cable preacher curls 4 sets
rope pushdowns with a pause at the bottom 4 sets
one arm cable preachers 3 sets
dip machine 4 sets
DB curls 3 sets
overhead cable extensions 4 sets
hammer curls 2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 24, 2013, 11:08:18 AM
Major shoulder issues again....both...can't sleep.....I guess it's the price of getting old...Can't do dips at all right now.
Arms again...because I felt like it(Friday) 4iu Seros pre-workout.

cable preacher curls 4 sets
rope pushdowns with a pause at the bottom 4 sets
one arm cable preachers 3 sets
dip machine 4 sets
DB curls 3 sets
overhead cable extensions 4 sets
hammer curls 2 sets

My sister tore her rotator cuff doing dips. She has had problems with it ever since. Dips are a good exercise as long as they are done right and with resistance you can handle with good form.

Sounds like you better lay off the shoulder/delt work until you see the doctor and find out what is up with yours. You should not be in that much pain. It might be something minor, but better to know and take care of it before it becomes something major. Shoulder injuries are slow to heal.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 24, 2013, 11:29:47 AM
My sister tore her rotator cuff doing dips. She has had problems with it ever since. Dips are a good exercise as long as they are done right and with resistance you can handle with good form.

Sounds like you better lay off the shoulder/delt work until you see the doctor and find out what is up with yours. You should not be in that much pain. It might be something minor, but better to know and take care of it before it becomes something major. Shoulder injuries are slow to heal.
Great advice Jay. I love Dips.. give the chest a great shape and not just the lower area.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on August 24, 2013, 12:09:06 PM
My sister tore her rotator cuff doing dips. She has had problems with it ever since. Dips are a good exercise as long as they are done right and with resistance you can handle with good form.

Sounds like you better lay off the shoulder/delt work until you see the doctor and find out what is up with yours. You should not be in that much pain. It might be something minor, but better to know and take care of it before it becomes something major. Shoulder injuries are slow to heal.

Good point....I already tore the left supraspinatus tendon and had that re-attached a few years ago. Of course it's the right one now. Really thought the GH would help. Dips and overhead presses are out for a while. Laterals seem to be fine. Upright rows are out too. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 24, 2013, 03:22:57 PM
Great advice Jay. I love Dips.. give the chest a great shape and not just the lower area.

Lately, I have been using a Nautilus seated dip machine. In the past, I used the Nautilus weight assisted machine. Both offer the ability to really control the resistance which allows me to concentrate on the movement better. The seated version facilitates the most controlled movement of the two machines since there is almost no chance of swinging or changing the position of one's body. Some folks would argue that neither of these machines encourage going the limit on resistance, which they don't really. My question to you is do you think for dips to be really effective doing them heavy is necessary or do you think doing them with absolute control will work the muscle better?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 24, 2013, 03:44:52 PM
Lately, I have been using a Nautilus seated dip machine. In the past, I used the Nautilus weight assisted machine. Both offer the ability to really control the resistance which allows me to concentrate on the movement better. The seated version facilitates the most controlled movement of the two machines since there is almost no chance of swinging or changing the position of one's body. Some folks would argue that neither of these machines encourage going the limit on resistance, which they don't really. My question to you is do you think for dips to be really effective doing them heavy is necessary or do you think doing them with absolute control will work the muscle better?
I Train Dips with Body weight and pull ups too. I have used extra weight but i find superseting Dips with  push ups saves my Joints, Training Dips heavy is not always an answer to muscle growth. Most People cheat and do half reps...i work slow and concentrate. i also like muscle endurance and Speed so i Train for it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on August 24, 2013, 07:57:46 PM
I rarely do dips after 2 people I know tore their pec. One was a chick. :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 24, 2013, 08:16:47 PM
I rarely do dips after 2 people I know tore their pec. One was a chick. :-\
there very effective for me ,but the catch is yrs ago i used some weight added ,now adays a no/no,i see young kids 2 45's strapped and doing some good reps ,props to them,again i do 15/20 2 sets end of chest work out ,amazing pump 4 me.sometimes cable crossovers/dip superset is nice finisher.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on August 25, 2013, 09:11:53 AM
Sunday morning Chest....4iu Seros pre-workout

incline DB press 4 sets 45/55/65/75
incline flys 3 sets 35
decline cable flys 3 sets 20 pause at bottom
smith machine flat bench drop sets 225/185/135 3 sets
pec deck ss with machine press 2 sets

protein drink and go home.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 25, 2013, 06:00:26 PM
sat was a allaround upper body workout from home 2 sets of chest press/pulldowns inner underhand/reg pulldowns/triceps/cable curls on my machine and some lateral side dbell,shrugs with dbell ,,just pumping stuff ,family barbecue ,drank a tad/eat meat  ;D,,

sunday leg brutal

leg press 4 plates /5 pl/6 pl/7 pl,,,reps 12/12/10/10
squat close footed 225/275/315...12/10/10
lunges walking 80 and 90 lbs on back walk and walk....
extensions drops set x3 205 x10 then 195x8,,220 x10/190x8/repeat last set ...wicked pump

hams
stiff legged dlift 135x12/185x19,235x10/255x10
seated leg curls x3

calves seated calf raise 3 45's x15/3.5 plates x12/3.5 and 10 added x10
standing calf raise x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 26, 2013, 10:46:09 AM
so i did back+chest Today

parallel bar Dips 4xmax Superset with
Sternum chins 4xmax

push ups with push up bars 4xmax Superset with
one arm DB rows 4x10

flat Bench flys 3x10 with
Close grip upright rows 3x10 ( unusual superset i know but it finished it off well) was short on time so worked fast.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 26, 2013, 10:52:45 AM
so i did back+chest Today

parallel bar Dips 4xmax Superset with
Sternum chins 4xmax

push ups with push up bars 4xmax Superset with
one arm DB rows 4x10

flat Bench flys 3x10 with
Close grip upright rows 3x10 ( unusual superset i know but it finished it off well) was short on time so worked fast.
What kind of weight are doing on the DB rows, Donny?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 26, 2013, 11:27:54 AM
I am using a 40kg Bell. enough for me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 26, 2013, 02:37:19 PM
I am using a 40kg Bell. enough for me.
Good, the lat stimulation is key no matter the weight. Mentally pull with the lats you know this is strange if you pull with the biceps then that's what you get bicep work.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 26, 2013, 02:40:08 PM
hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters 8)...future bber :D....7lbs 12.5 ounces..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 26, 2013, 02:45:29 PM
hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters 8)...future bber :D....7lbs 12.5 ounces..
Congrats man. So many birthdays in August people getting busy in December. My birthday 16th, Sister 22nd, Dad 29th . 7lbs 12.5 is a healthy boy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 26, 2013, 02:47:07 PM
hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters 8)...future bber :D....7lbs 12.5 ounces..
So happy for you and your wife  ;D CONGRATULATIONS ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on August 26, 2013, 02:49:28 PM
hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters 8)...future bber :D....7lbs 12.5 ounces..

Congrats! I have 3 kids and six grandkids!

Back day....4iu Seros pre-workout/250mg Galenika Test/150NPP

Wide grip chins 3 sets
close grip pulldowns 3 sets
Straight arm pulldowns 3 sets
seated pulley rows 3 sets
hammer row( single arm) 2 sets
DB row both arms at the same time 2 sets
back machine row with underhand grip 2 sets

total gym time 45 min.
total time
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 26, 2013, 03:00:26 PM
thanks all ....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 26, 2013, 03:06:07 PM
Good, the lat stimulation is key no matter the weight. Mentally pull with the lats you know this is strange if you pull with the biceps then that's what you get bicep work.
well after chin ups supinated (not in the same superset, my strength is of course lower) I am not one of the big guys on here and work in my capabilities for muscle growth and endurance.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 26, 2013, 03:09:29 PM
thanks all ....
you are more than wellcome...great poster...GREAT FATHER ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on August 26, 2013, 03:15:02 PM
hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters 8)...future bber :D....7lbs 12.5 ounces..
Congratulations!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on August 26, 2013, 04:36:46 PM
hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters 8)...future bber :D....7lbs 12.5 ounces..
Omg, big congrats Steve to you and your beautiful wife. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 26, 2013, 04:59:34 PM
hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters 8)...future bber :D....7lbs 12.5 ounces..

If I ever need someone to keep a secret, I will know who to count on. It is amazing that you never said anything.

Congratulations! BTW boys are much easier to raise than girls, based on our experience. Our son was 7 lbs. 14 oz. and 21 1/2" long. Today he's a healthy 6' fellow with a lean and athletic physique.

Guess you won't be sleeping as much as usual.  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 28, 2013, 09:19:12 AM
Shoulders+Arms

Barbell Standing press 4x10
standind side raises 4x12
Bent over raises 4x12 (forehead on inclined bench)

ez bar curls 5x10 Superset with
lying tri ext 5x12

hammer curls 2x12 Superset with
one arm tri ext 2x12

AB crunches 3xmax
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 28, 2013, 10:51:50 AM
Monday's workout:


delts    


reverse cable flyes    4 sets  

side laterals    4 sets

machine shoulder presses  (very unique pressing apparatus.....you are pressing on an incline.....but almost pressing backwards)  4 sets

db shrugs   3 sets


calves

seated calf raises  5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 28, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
Tuesday's workout:

arms


machine dips  4 sets

close grip presses on the smith machine  4 sets

overhead cable extensions   4 sets

concentration curls  5 sets

precor machine curls  5 sets

employed some static holds for biceps......up to 4 seconds in the fully contracted position.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on August 28, 2013, 11:10:31 AM
Tuesday arms.....4iu Seros pre-workout

Rope pushdowns ss incline DB curls 4 sets
French press ss   close grip BB curls 4 sets
Pullover and press ss  wide grip preacher curls 3 sets
Cable kickbacks ss Arnold standing concentration curls 3 sets

Wednesday legs/abs 4iu Seros/250 Galenika Test Depo/150 NPP

Rope pulldown crunches ss hanging leg raises 4 sets
Some high cable one arm twisty thing for serratus 3 sets
calf raises on Leg Press 3 sets
Seated Calf Raise 3 sets

Did not feel like doing Quads/Hams so I didn't. I am 56 I can do whatever the fuck I want

Forearm work
 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 28, 2013, 11:12:24 AM
hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters 8)...future bber :D....7lbs 12.5 ounces..
fantastic news!!!!! congrats!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 28, 2013, 11:15:26 AM
fantastic news!!!!! congrats!!!
THANKS BIG WILLY STYLE,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 28, 2013, 01:36:44 PM
Hey Steve,

Are mom and son home yet? Baby sleeping through the night? You might get lucky....our son slept through the night almost right away which my wife thought was weird so she called the doctor. He suggested she enjoy it. Our daughter was a lighter sleeper.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 28, 2013, 01:48:36 PM
Went to see the orthopedic surgeon yesterday. We concluded that it was time to do something about my knee. He'd hoped my bruised knee bone would have healed over the last 7 0r 8 weeks. Since the tear in the meniscus can't heal or go away and since that is what caused the bruised knee bone, arthroscopic surgery to trim the meniscus tear is probably the best chance I have of getting some relief. Unfortunately, there isn't anything he can do about the arthritis I have in my knee. The bottom line is there are no guarantees. Shit!

I won't know when I am having surgery until I hear from scheduling. This also has to be preapproved by my health insurance provider. In the meantime, I will just do the best I can with regards to hitting the gym.

Today is my birthday. I am 69 years old. My wife and I went out to breakfast and we are going out to dinner. She is paying....out of our joint bank account.  ::). No birthday cards from Germany yet....our son is always late with this kind of thing. My son-in-law called and chatted for over an hour last Sunday which was great. What I really want for my birthday is to win the lottery. Guess I better buy a ticket or two. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 28, 2013, 01:55:28 PM
Hey Steve,

Are mom and son home yet? Baby sleeping through the night? You might get lucky....our son slept through the night almost right away which my wife thought was weird so she called the doctor. He suggested she enjoy it. Our daughter was a lighter sleeper.
NO ,,FEW MORE DAYS 'C'SECTION 4 TO 5 DAYS IN HOSPITAL DUE TO THE SURGERY.MY GIRLS WERE 50/50 1ST ONE WAS A NIGHTMARE LITERALLY HAD FORMULA STOMACH ISSUES ,SWITCHED FORMULA'S,AFTER 3-4 MONTHS SHE WAS OK,I ALMOST NEVER WANTED KIDS AFTER HER.MY 2ND WAS SOOO EASY...WE'LL SEE MY WIFE WILL BE HOME 8-10 WKS USUALLY THERE GOOD TO GO OR CLOSE TO IT,MY WIFE IS A NIGHT SHIFT NURSE SO GUESS WHO'S FEEDING WHEN SHE IS WORKING AT 2AM  :P,,,SO I AM HOPING TRAINED BY THEN :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 28, 2013, 01:56:12 PM
HAAAPPPPYYYYY BDAYYYY,,, 8), :o, :),,,MY DAD JUST TURNED 70...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 28, 2013, 02:10:46 PM
NO ,,FEW MORE DAYS 'C'SECTION 4 TO 5 DAYS IN HOSPITAL DUE TO THE SURGERY.MY GIRLS WERE 50/50 1ST ONE WAS A NIGHTMARE LITERALLY HAD FORMULA STOMACH ISSUES ,SWITCHED FORMULA'S,AFTER 3-4 MONTHS SHE WAS OK,I ALMOST NEVER WANTED KIDS AFTER HER.MY 2ND WAS SOOO EASY...WE'LL SEE MY WIFE WILL BE HOME 8-10 WKS USUALLY THERE GOOD TO GO OR CLOSE TO IT,MY WIFE IS A NIGHT SHIFT NURSE SO GUESS WHO'S FEEDING WHEN SHE IS WORKING AT 2AM  :P,,,SO I AM HOPING TRAINED BY THEN :'(

Are you both going to take some family leave? That seems to be pretty common these days.

Back when our kids were born, nobody ever heard of family leave. My wife quit her job when our son was born, stayed home and provided childcare to others for a couple of years. When our daughter was born, my wife also quit her job staying home for about two years. I am not sure how we managed financially, but it all worked out.

Our daughter has not worked at a regular job since her son was born. That was over 16 years ago. Our daughter-in-law works from home most of the time, going into the office only on occasion. It is a common practice in Germany, I think. Anyway, our kids and grandkids were lucky to be able to spend that time at home. Few people today can afford such a luxury.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 29, 2013, 12:41:12 AM
Happy birthday Jay
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 29, 2013, 12:36:50 PM
Had a great birthday yesterday. I even took my lazy ass to the gym and worked quads and calves. Compared to August 5, when I last worked them, this work out went well and today I am not hobbling around like I broke my leg. Lightened the load on all the quad exercises, particularly hack squats which I did using machine weight only. Usually, I add at least 180 lbs. I did manage 600 lbs. added weight on the leg press for 8 reps, working up in resistance from machine weight at 25 reps in 6 sets. On the leg extension, I topped out at 155 lbs. for 10 reps.

Dinner at P.F. Changs was great and far too expensive. We had deep fried green beans and pork dumplings for appetizers. I had a rum colada which was not great. My entrée was Kung Pow scallops, which is basically lots of scallops cooked with peanuts and hot peppers. This was served with brown rice. Since it was my birthday, I had desert on the house. I had a key lime bar, which was kind of like key lime pie without the crust. I drank Sake with dinner and coffee with desert. Some of my dinner is in the fridge because I couldn't eat it all.

My daughter and family ordered two arrangements from Edible Arrangements. These a basically fresh fruit dipped in chocolate and confections, http://www.ediblearrangements.com/. There was a message on the phone when we got home from dinner with my kids and grandkids singing happy birthday. So all in all, I had a great day. I expect a card or cards from my son and family within a week or so. He never sends anything on time. We will probably Skype with them on Sunday.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on August 29, 2013, 12:56:38 PM
Shoulders/Traps Day...4iu Seros pre-workout

Smith machine front presses 4 sets
Side Laterals 2 sets plus two drop sets
Cable rear delts 4 sets
incline one arm laterals 3 sets
smith machine shrugs 4 sets drop on last.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 29, 2013, 01:37:56 PM
Shoulders/Traps Day...4iu Seros pre-workout

Smith machine front presses 4 sets
Side Laterals 2 sets plus two drop sets
Cable rear delts 4 sets
incline one arm laterals 3 sets
smith machine shrugs 4 sets drop on last.
I DO VERY CLOSE TO THIS WORKOUT DUDE,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on August 29, 2013, 01:43:31 PM
I DO VERY CLOSE TO THIS WORKOUT DUDE,,,

Cool...it's been a while since I did the one arm incline laterals....old school!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 29, 2013, 08:01:10 PM
moved some body parts around working 10 hr days,hospital visits'wife and baby come home fri morning'4 day stay.

delts
db press x4 50/55/60 with drop back to 50
side laterals ran rack 2x,, 30/25/20/15 sets 10
front raise x3 25/20/40
cable bent laterals rear delt x3
finished 2 sets cable behind back


shrugs front 225/275/275
2x behind back shrug on hammer chest press

bi's
padded curl machine x3
db alt curls x3 35/40/40
barbell curlsx4

calves standing calf x5
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 30, 2013, 01:58:19 AM
moved some body parts around working 10 hr days,hospital visits'wife and baby come home fri morning'4 day stay.

delts
db press x4 50/55/60 with drop back to 50
side laterals ran rack 2x,, 30/25/20/15 sets 10
front raise x3 25/20/40
cable bent laterals rear delt x3
finished 2 sets cable behind back


shrugs front 225/275/275
2x behind back shrug on hammer chest press

bi's
padded curl machine x3
db alt curls x3 35/40/40
barbell curlsx4

calves standing calf x5
sometimes itīs good for a small Change....Keep pumpin Steve  ;D I will do my legs today...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 30, 2013, 05:41:50 AM
sometimes itīs good for a small Change....Keep pumpin Steve  ;D I will do my legs today...
yeah donny,isually do back/bi been awhile so bi/delt was actually pretty good,great pump on bi's.run the rack side laterals last 2 delt workouts give's wicked pump,kbordner got me thinking again,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 31, 2013, 11:23:52 AM
yeah donny,isually do back/bi been awhile so bi/delt was actually pretty good,great pump on bi's.run the rack side laterals last 2 delt workouts give's wicked pump,kbordner got me thinking again,,,
Yeah....running the rack....like it Brother Steve....  i always work for a good pump too in my Cannonball Delts... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on August 31, 2013, 02:14:53 PM
yeah donny,isually do back/bi been awhile so bi/delt was actually pretty good,great pump on bi's.run the rack side laterals last 2 delt workouts give's wicked pump,kbordner got me thinking again,,,

Hey Steve I do them almost every delt workout. It's Ken BTW.

Friday arms again.....4iu Seros/250 Galenika Test Depo/150NPP

one arm reverse pushdowns ss w smith machine curls 3 sets
DB extensions on the floor with pause on floor ss w cable preacher curls 3 sets
straight bar pushdowns ss w overhead rope curls 4 sets
dip machine ss w concentration cable curls 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 31, 2013, 07:16:15 PM
ken good as well ..glad you stuck.

legs working on a sore right knee don't know origin feel like 'jay'but i still can train and heavy but i'm getting nervous.

warmed up extensions 175/190/205/220/235/250 all 12 reps sets
hack squats 3 plates/4 plates/5 plates/5.5. 12/10/10/8
leg press 5 plates/ 6pl/7 pl
lunges up steps with 45 pl per hand x2

hams
lying leg curls x3
seated leg curl x3

calves
seated calf raise x3
standing x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 31, 2013, 11:20:57 PM
ken good as well ..glad you stuck.

legs working on a sore right knee don't know origin feel like 'jay'but i still can train and heavy but i'm getting nervous.

warmed up extensions 175/190/205/220/235/250 all 12 reps sets
hack squats 3 plates/4 plates/5 plates/5.5. 12/10/10/8
leg press 5 plates/ 6pl/7 pl
lunges up steps with 45 pl per hand x2

hams
lying leg curls x3
seated leg curl x3

calves
seated calf raise x3
standing x3

If you can comfortably do leg extensions with this weight, you probably won't do any harm to your knee. Just keep your movements smooth and slow, no jerking at all. One thing I have been doing is working one leg at a time on extensions so that my left leg isn't picking up the slack for the compromised right leg.

Hack squats were the one exercise that had me really concerned last Wednesday when I did them. Just getting through the movement and going fairly low felt like a real accomplishment to me. The most I can do these with under better circumstances is 4 plates. Whatever I did worked though because my quads are still tender. It is a good feeling.

I am hoping most of the leg pain I have is a result of my limping around on it, thus using the muscles and tendons differently then normal. It is almost ridiculous, but I feel like I have to force myself to walk normal....thinking heal toe, heal toe as I go. One thing is for sure, there is no swagger in my walk at the moment.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 02, 2013, 08:44:42 AM
Sunday....chest....4iu Seros/250 Galenika Test/150 NPP

Smith machine inclines....6 sets last two drop sets 245/195/145/95
Hammer chest press 4 sets last set drop 4 drops
Cable crossovers from low pulley 3 sets

Monday- back 4iu Seros

Wide grip pulldowns 4 sets
Reverse grip pulldowns 3 sets
Wide straight arm pulldowns 3 sets
One arm pulley rows 3 sets
Reverse grip barbell rows 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2013, 09:55:29 AM
chest..... ;D

flat barbell press 3x6-10
flat bench flys 3x10
Incline Barbell press 3x6-10
incline flys 3x10

1x max push ups wth bars.
Hanging knee raises with ankle weights 3x15

I then did a 45 min run and got piss wet through because it rained... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 02, 2013, 10:37:28 AM
chest..... ;D

flat barbell press 3x6-10
flat bench flys 3x10
Incline Barbell press 3x6-10
incline flys 3x10

1x max push ups wth bars.
Hanging knee raises with ankle weights 3x15

I then did a 45 min run and got piss wet through because it rained... ;D

Supposed to rain here today too. So far the sun is still out though. Not sure what time the gym closes today since it is Labor Day in the States. The leg has been feeling pretty good for a couple of days now. I am almost walking like a normal human being.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 02, 2013, 10:44:22 AM
chest/tri/abs

inc db press 60/65/70 12/10/8
flat db press turned in at top palms face on top portion 60/65/65 10/8/8/
hammer lower press seated 2 plates/2plates and 25 x2 sets 10
inc flyes 40/45/45
dips x3 12-13

tri's
pusdowns x4
seated extension machine x3
dip machine tri x3
hi rope pushowns kick at the bottom x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 02, 2013, 11:39:07 AM
chest/tri/abs

inc db press 60/65/70 12/10/8
flat db press turned in at top palms face on top portion 60/65/65 10/8/8/
hammer lower press seated 2 plates/2plates and 25 x2 sets 10
inc flyes 40/45/45
dips x3 12-13

tri's
pusdowns x4
seated extension machine x3
dip machine tri x3
hi rope pushowns kick at the bottom x3

abs

Nice
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 02, 2013, 02:39:11 PM
Nice
thanx big ken..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 03, 2013, 02:08:55 AM
Back...

3x max chins
one arm db rows 4x10
Deadlifts 3x5

crunches 3x max.
might just hit the rowing machine tonight after work ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on September 03, 2013, 02:19:31 PM
delts and bis:


reverse cable flyes   4 sets

side laterals   4 sets

smith machine shoulder presses  3 sets

db shrugs   3 sets


concentration curls   5 sets

precor machine curls   5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 03, 2013, 03:01:44 PM
What's up fellow old dudes...arm day...
4iu Seros/250mg Galenika Test Depo/150mg NPP

rope pushdowns 4 sets
incline high rope cable curls 4 sets
smith machine close grips 135X20 185X15 225X10 275X6
preacher cable curls 2 sets close grip 2 sets wide grip
reverse grip pushdowns 4 sets
reverse ez curl 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 04, 2013, 11:01:50 PM
delts and bis:


reverse cable flyes   4 sets

side laterals   4 sets

smith machine shoulder presses  3 sets

db shrugs   3 sets


concentration curls   5 sets

precor machine curls   5 sets

nice workout... bet your Biceps were pumped to the max after that....lol I like it!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 04, 2013, 11:04:56 PM
Scheduling called me today and scheduled my knee surgery for Friday. This doesn't give me much time to get anxious about it. My knee felt like crap all day, so I am really looking forward to getting it fixed.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 05, 2013, 04:40:58 AM
Wed.....Legs

4iu Seros pre-workout....my shoulders are finally feeling better.

leg curls ss leg extensions 5 sets
leg presses 5 sets 6 plates/8 plates/10 plates/12 plates/14 plates
standing calves ss seated calves 3 sets
kneeling rope abs ss leg raises 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 05, 2013, 04:51:53 AM
Wed.....Legs

4iu Seros pre-workout....my shoulders are finally feeling better.

leg curls ss leg extensions 5 sets
leg presses 5 sets 6 plates/8 plates/10 plates/12 plates/14 plates
standing calves ss seated calves 3 sets
kneeling rope abs ss leg raises 4 sets
nice,,,leg press nice weights.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 05, 2013, 05:15:18 AM
back/bi/abs..

hammer pulldowns reverse x4 plate +25,2 plates,2 plates and 25,and repeat last set .reps 12/10/10/8/8
hammer seated row usually do not use this one ....2 plates x10/2 plates and 25 x10,2 plates and 25 x8
t bar row reverse grip 3 plates x12/3.5 plates x10,3.5 and ten for 10,drop set 2 plates for 20 finish
standup pulldown/pullover with cable x3

weighted hypers

bi's
seated curl machine x3
alt bicep db curls,30/35/40
curls premade bar 70/80/80 drop to 60 last set
 
abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 05, 2013, 10:32:23 AM
back/bi/abs..

hammer pulldowns reverse x4 plate +25,2 plates,2 plates and 25,and repeat last set .reps 12/10/10/8/8
hammer seated row usually do not use this one ....2 plates x10/2 plates and 25 x10,2 plates and 25 x8
t bar row reverse grip 3 plates x12/3.5 plates x10,3.5 and ten for 10,drop set 2 plates for 20 finish
standup pulldown/pullover with cable x3

weighted hypers

bi's
seated curl machine x3
alt bicep db curls,30/35/40
curls premade bar 70/80/80 drop to 60 last set
 
abs
Nice one big Steve..... :) so today i hit legs...

leg extensions 3x10-15
seated leg curls 3x10-15
seated leg press 4x10
Smith machine squats 3x10,8,8
adduction 2x10
abduction 2x10
45 degree hyperextensions 3x15
calf machine 4x15

wanted to do legs tomorrow but was running past the gym and thought what the hell my legs are warm now so i blasted them...lol  i felt it on the Smith machine squats though... ;D I like the seated adduction machine too...just threw some extras in there..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 05, 2013, 10:35:02 AM
good workout Donny,i have been trying to get to those add/abductor machines there good to add on .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 05, 2013, 10:38:07 AM
nice,,,leg press nice weights.

Thanks Steve...hobbling around today though

Delts/Traps...4iu Seros/250 Galenika Test Depo/150NPP

DB Laterals 10X30 20X20 30X12 40X9 drop set 40/30/20/10
Smith machine Presses 135X15 160X10 185X8
DB rear delt laterals 30X15 35X12 40X10
rear delt cable crossovers 2X25
DB shrugs 60X20 70X15 80X12 90X10 50X20
Shoulder press machine 3X10  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 05, 2013, 10:44:04 AM
Thanks Steve...hobbling around today though

Delts/Traps...4iu Seros/250 Galenika Test Depo/150NPP

DB Laterals 10X30 20X20 30X12 40X9 drop set 40/30/20/10
Smith machine Presses 135X15 160X10 185X8
DB rear delt laterals 30X15 35X12 40X10
rear delt cable crossovers 2X25
DB shrugs 60X20 70X15 80X12 90X10 50X20
Shoulder press machine 3X10  
how big are u?are weights are almost identical reps/weight on what I've seen.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 05, 2013, 12:15:54 PM
how big are u?are weights are almost identical reps/weight on what I've seen.

5'10" 205
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 05, 2013, 01:23:33 PM
5'10" 205
NICE,I'M 5'7/5'8 LOL SHOES 185/190 BF FLUCTUATES SLIGHT WINTER/SUMMER ,I STAY PRETTY RIPPED ALL YEAR,NOW SO OFF SUMMER CONDITION VERY LEAN ,TOOK CONDITION TO A BIT MORE EXTREME THIS YEAR.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 05, 2013, 02:04:01 PM
NICE,I'M 5'7/5'8 LOL SHOES 185/190 BF FLUCTUATES SLIGHT WINTER/SUMMER ,I STAY PRETTY RIPPED ALL YEAR,NOW SO OFF SUMMER CONDITION VERY LEAN ,TOOK CONDITION TO A BIT MORE EXTREME THIS YEAR.
[/quote

Nice....I need to get down to about 190 to be where I want to be.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 05, 2013, 02:41:02 PM
NICE,I'M 5'7/5'8 LOL SHOES 185/190 BF FLUCTUATES SLIGHT WINTER/SUMMER ,I STAY PRETTY RIPPED ALL YEAR,NOW SO OFF SUMMER CONDITION VERY LEAN ,TOOK CONDITION TO A BIT MORE EXTREME THIS YEAR.
[/quote

Nice....I need to get down to about 190 to be where I want to be.
COOL,,I POST PICS HERE TIME TO TIME ,I HAVE A PIC FROM WK AGO 'SHREDDED'
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 05, 2013, 07:29:18 PM
delts
enjoying ken's delt regimine been copying some latley.

started side delt raises pump style 15x10,20 x20,25x15,30x12 last set drops 35 x8-25x8-20x10-15x10 smoked...
fr raises x3 25/30/35 sets 10 .single arm and mixed with both hands
rear peck deck raises x4
behind neck smith x3
2 sets cable behind back raises

shrugs 225x12/275x12/275 x12
rear shrugs x2 on hammer chest machine 3 plates x15/4 plates x15

forarms

calves 5 sets standing calf raise
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 06, 2013, 05:33:04 PM
Thanks Steve...the "run the rack" delt raises are a staple now

Arm Day....4iu Seros/250mg Galenika Test/150NPP

V-bar pushdowns 4 sets
Seated French Press 3 sets
Dip Machine 3 sets
One arm cable extension 2 sets
Rope pushdowns  1 set with 6 drops
EZ bar wide grip curls 3 sets
Close grip incline cable curls from high pulley 3 sets
Preacher curl machine (one arm) 3 sets
Hammer curls 2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 06, 2013, 06:08:02 PM
I just wrote a detailed and I thought extremely funny account of my arthroscopic knee surgery experience today and then hit the wrong button, saving you all from having to read another one of my novelettes.  ;D

So, long funny story short, the surgery went well. My knee had more damage than the MRI indicated. I will be using crutches for a month because I am not supposed to put weight on my right leg.

Since I can't go to the gym for awhile, my upper body exercise will be hobbling around the house on crutches. I will continue to read your inspirational workout routines with a somewhat jealous eye. Occasionally, I will post some long diatribe because, well, there isn't a lot more I can do right now.

Keep strong, live good and keep positive thoughts for my full recovery. Right now, I have no pain whatsoever, which is probably because of the anesthesia, which is still wearing off. I have pain meds, if I need them.  ;)

BTW, my knee injury is not age related. So if you all take good care of yourselves, you may never experience this....just saying.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 06, 2013, 07:01:51 PM
get well soon jay...we need ya  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 07, 2013, 02:16:40 AM
get well soon jay...we need ya  :)
X2...all the best Jay. I had an op like you on my right knee in 99.. my cartilage. can squat like a king now... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 07, 2013, 05:11:50 AM
Feeling like shit today... a woman i trained yesterday gave me a cold.... she was sneezing and coughing all the time. Got to work tomorrow too. never mind i think i will now eat a large bowl of Vanilla ice cream... ;D make me feel better. I Sound like a real pussy here... ::) better sort my shit out ! I will run tomorrow before work and sweat all the shit out. Maybe not sensible but well we will see....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 07, 2013, 05:21:10 AM
love it....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on September 07, 2013, 08:27:45 AM
Nice one big Steve..... :) so today i hit legs...

leg extensions 3x10-15
seated leg curls 3x10-15
seated leg press 4x10
Smith machine squats 3x10,8,8
adduction 2x10
abduction 2x10
45 degree hyperextensions 3x15
calf machine 4x15

wanted to do legs tomorrow but was running past the gym and thought what the hell my legs are warm now so i blasted them...lol  i felt it on the Smith machine squats though... ;D I like the seated adduction machine too...just threw some extras in there..
Why do you squat in the Smith machine?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 07, 2013, 08:40:33 AM
X2...all the best Jay. I had an op like you on my right knee in 99.. my cartilage. can squat like a king now... ;D

Damn, I hope I can get back to squatting. My flat ass is going to be even flatter if I don't do something. Oh and there are those lunges too. Genetics! My mom had a flat butt. Thanks mom.

Took a pain pill last night right before hitting the sack. I don't think I needed it. My knee still feels pain free this morning. It is going to be difficult to remember to not put weight on it. The crutches are so limiting. How does one carry something while navigating around on crutches? I tried peeing while leaning on them and peed over the side of the toilet (real coordinated). Now I am setting them against the wall so I can hold onto my (giant) dick and aim when I pee. Just thought you all would get a kick out of my bathroom habits.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 07, 2013, 08:46:35 AM
Why do you squat in the Smith machine?

Not speaking for Chaos, but I prefer an assisted squat. I can concentrate on getting really low and on my form. I like the Smith machine for this. The gym also has a squat machine that works in an arch. It takes getting used to, but once you do the movement is great. I use a low stool to squat to because it assures me I am getting really low. I am careful not to bounce off it though, just barely touching it at the bottom of the squat.

This arch machine is great also for standing overhead presses. You are pressing up and forward some. Because you can hook off the weight at any point, it gives you the confidence to lift heavier weights.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on September 07, 2013, 09:38:19 AM
Not speaking for Chaos, but I prefer an assisted squat. I can concentrate on getting really low and on my form. I like the Smith machine for this. The gym also has a squat machine that works in an arch. It takes getting used to, but once you do the movement is great. I use a low stool to squat to because it assures me I am getting really low. I am careful not to bounce off it though, just barely touching it at the bottom of the squat.

This arch machine is great also for standing overhead presses. You are pressing up and forward some. Because you can hook off the weight at any point, it gives you the confidence to lift heavier weights.
A curved smith or an angled one?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 07, 2013, 09:59:31 AM
I like the Change and having my feet a bit more Forward. I do find front squats work well too in the Smith machine. I squat with and without a Smith machine also i like to do leg press now and again. Being more radical i will do adduction and abduction too on seated machines we have. I will use any means at Hand to get the Job done..i never fuck around when i Train, not even talking much...alone with my thoughts and working hard and fast ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 07, 2013, 10:09:06 AM
anyway enough of all this manly Training talk here...where is my ice cream... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 07, 2013, 10:28:42 AM
I like the Change and having my feet a bit more Forward. I do find front squats work well too in the Smith machine. I squat with and without a Smith machine also i like to do leg press now and again. Being more radical i will do adduction and abduction too on seated machines we have. I will use any means at Hand to get the Job done..i never fuck around when i Train, not even talking much...alone with my thoughts and working hard and fast ;)
I DO THE SAME...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 07, 2013, 10:46:29 AM
I DO THE SAME...
Great minds think alike... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 07, 2013, 10:58:50 AM
Great minds think alike... ;D
;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 07, 2013, 11:18:44 AM
A curved smith or an angled one?

It would be curved I think. The outer part of the rack is in an arch which corresponds to the pivot of the weight bar. This is the part with the pins for racking the weight wherever you need to. The interesting thing is that when squatting, it works best, for me at least, to stand with my feet somewhat forward causing me to lean backward slightly at the top of the movement. In full squat, I am bent very slightly forward at the waist as would be expected and my back is in perfect position with butt out tapping the low stool I set there to gauge how low I go.

I am out of commission for probably a month because I just had knee surgery yesterday and have been told not to bear any weight on my right leg for a month. I should be able to develop some upper body strength using these damn crutches. My arm pits are already sore. Anyway, when I get back to the gym, I will snap a photo of this equipment so you can see what it looks like....which is probably better then my description.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 08, 2013, 05:01:49 AM
so i went for a run today and sweated like hell....feel better now. looking Forward to a good chest workout tomorrow. I never really catch colds often and never bother with medicine unless iīm really bad. Only working 4 hours later and being Sunday i suppose it will be quite.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 08, 2013, 07:46:47 AM
Happy Sunday...my daughter is 36 today and my grandson is 12!

4iu Seros pre-workout-chest

Incline DB presses  50X20 70X12 80X10
Flat Bench Drop Sets 225/185/135 2X
Hammer Decline Press 2 Drop sets 3 plates each side/2 plates/1plate
Cable chest press 2x15
Cable crossover 21s 7 high 7 middle 7 low 2X
DB pullover 2X10 60


 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 08, 2013, 01:15:54 PM
Our daughter called today to ask if we'd be offended if she came up from Texas to help out for the next month while I am laid up. Offended? Hardly. I paid for the plane ticket and she arrives tomorrow evening.

What a pathetic couple of old coots my wife and I are. My wife has fallen twice so far today. She cannot usually right herself when she falls, but somehow managed to do so when she fell the first time this morning. The second time though she just lay on the floor in front of me and there was no way she was going to make it upright again. I debated calling 911, but decided I would lift her up myself despite her objections. I think I managed this without putting pressure on my right leg somehow. I need to let my knee heal right because it is clear one of us has to be able bodied around here and that person is me.

Thank goodness for children who care enough to put their lives on hold for their parents.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 08, 2013, 02:02:13 PM
I just read about the surgery I had last Friday. Some of the information is less than encouraging. I will have a lot of questions for the doctor when I see him on September 17.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microfracture_surgery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microfracture_surgery)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 08, 2013, 05:43:47 PM
Happy Sunday...my daughter is 36 today and my grandson is 12!

4iu Seros pre-workout-chest

Incline DB presses  50X20 70X12 80X10
Flat Bench Drop Sets 225/185/135 2X
Hammer Decline Press 2 Drop sets 3 plates each side/2 plates/1plate
Cable chest press 2x15
Cable crossover 21s 7 high 7 middle 7 low 2X
DB pullover 2X10 60


 
nice workout ken and congrats on both and 36 yr old daughter :o,,,keep it going  god bless...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 08, 2013, 05:49:40 PM
legs

 leg press 4/5/6/7 plates reps 12/12/10/10
close feet squat legs 225/275/315 12/10/10
walking lunges 50 db's x2
single leg extensions something different x4

hams supersetted stiff legged dlift with leg curls 135/140 10x10,185 /140 10x10,225/140 10x10

calved seated raise x3 and standing calf raise x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 08, 2013, 06:03:21 PM
So far today, 50 leg lifts, each leg. 50 leg extensions, each leg. 50 more of each exercise to do. Do them everyday. Doctor's orders.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 08, 2013, 07:14:55 PM
nice workout ken and congrats on both and 36 yr old daughter :o,,,keep it going  god bless...

Thank you Steve
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 08, 2013, 07:23:08 PM
So far today, 50 leg lifts, each leg. 50 leg extensions, each leg. 50 more of each exercise to do. Do them everyday. Doctor's orders.
:D...awesome jay we will have a leg duello very soon :)...or not :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 09, 2013, 02:23:46 PM
Back day folks....... on a side note my wife hit 135X10 in FULL squats( below parallel. )

4iu Seros/250 Galenika Test/150NPP

Reverse grip pulldowns 7 sets with a pause at the bottom of each rep 100-170.
Seated pulley rows 4 sets with a pause at contraction 120-180
2 arm DB rows 4 sets 60s-90s

Done.....55 minutes
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Gonuclear on September 09, 2013, 08:18:13 PM
I had coronary artery bypass surgery ten years ago, the kind where they split your breastbone to get at your heart, and then wire the bones together when they're done.  The bones are supposed to fuse after some time.

Does anyone here have information/experiences about this situation that can be shared on this thread, concerning exercises like bench presses, dips, and push-ups?  Is the healed breastbone strong enough?

Thank you.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 09, 2013, 08:20:02 PM
chest/tri/abs

pecs
inc dbells,55/65/70/75 12/10/8/5 drop 60 and  6 more..
flat db press turn palms in at top 60/65/70 drop to 60
hammer mid/lower pec 2 plates/2.5/3 plates 12/10/9
supersetted inc dbell flyes 45/45/45 x10-8 with dips
2 sets pec deck finish squeeze..

tris
pushdowns x4
extension machine padded at elbows x3
dip tri machine x3
2 sets rope extensions pull out at bottom

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 09, 2013, 08:26:43 PM
I had coronary artery bypass surgery ten years ago, the kind where they split your breastbone to get at your heart, and then wire the bones together when they're done.  The bones are supposed to fuse after some time.

Does anyone here have information/experiences about this situation that can be shared on this thread, concerning exercises like bench presses, dips, and push-ups?  Is the healed breastbone strong enough?

Thank you.

If I were in your shoes, this is not where I would go for advice on this. You need a professional opinion and by that I mean your doctor.

It sure seems possible that the breast plate would fuse together again after some time. It might even be stronger than it was before the surgery, I don't know and neither does anyone else here probably. Once you have your doctor's consent, you will know you are good to go and that should be a comfort to you.

Obviously, exercise is good for the heart as long as your heart isn't overtaxed by it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 09, 2013, 08:30:24 PM
:D...awesome jay we will have a leg duello very soon :)...or not :-\

Check out this dudes thighs. He's got really short powerful legs and glutes. Not all of this muscle is from cycling. He squats with mass weights too.

I am going to buy a rack for my bicycle so I can use it as a stationary bike and then I will peddle my ass off....or back on as the case may be.

I am currently doing 10 leg raises per leg each hour I am awake and 10 leg extensions. No added weight though.

GERMAN cyclists Andre Greipel and Robert Forstemann show their qualifications for London 2012 - flashing their huge thighs in a Twitter snap.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 09, 2013, 08:33:27 PM
GERMAN cyclists Andre Greipel and Robert Forstemann show their qualifications for London 2012 - flashing their huge thighs in a Twitter snap.


when ur ready  ;)...actually playing with u,as u can see on a few threads here people take it a bit too serious.i post lots of pics but never to defend,offend,challenge or insult someone.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 09, 2013, 08:38:37 PM
when ur ready  ;)...actually playing with u,as u can see on a few threads here people take it a bit too serious.i post lots of pics but never to defend,offend,challenge or insult someone.

I thought I was addicted to Getbig before. Now I am spending way too much time posting here. I just hope I don't screw up and post something that starts a shit storm.

I used to take this place too seriously. I think I've gained thicker skin and learned to roll with the punches by now. This period of over exposure will be the real test.

Here's a weird thing. My knee feels so good since the surgery it is really hard to remember to stay off it and this is only day three. I hope I can do this for 30 days. I want this knee as good as new.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 09, 2013, 08:40:28 PM
I thought I was addicted to Getbig before. Now I am spending way too much time posting here. I just hope I don't screw up and post something that starts a shit storm.

I used to take this place too seriously. I think I've gained thicker skin and learned to roll with the punches by now. This period of over exposure will be the real test.

Here's a weird thing. My knee feels so good since the surgery it is really hard to remember to stay off it and this is only day three. I hope I can do this for 30 days. I want this knee as good as new.
u'll be great again,glad to see ur pushing the healing process my man...i did 1 legged extensions on last leg workout i enjoyed them ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Gonuclear on September 09, 2013, 08:50:03 PM
If I were in your shoes, this is not where I would go for advice on this. You need a professional opinion and by that I mean your doctor.

It sure seems possible that the breast plate would fuse together again after some time. It might even be stronger than it was before the surgery, I don't know and neither does anyone else here probably. Once you have your doctor's consent, you will know you are good to go and that should be a comfort to you.

Obviously, exercise is good for the heart as long as your heart isn't overtaxed by it.

Thanks.  Good advice.  I do plan to ask my doctor.  I also wanted to hear about anyone who might be in the same situation.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on September 09, 2013, 09:11:29 PM
I had coronary artery bypass surgery ten years ago, the kind where they split your breastbone to get at your heart, and then wire the bones together when they're done.  The bones are supposed to fuse after some time.

Does anyone here have information/experiences about this situation that can be shared on this thread, concerning exercises like bench presses, dips, and push-ups?  Is the healed breastbone strong enough?

Thank you.
Yeah. Ask your doctor. Although you can be sure he will err on the side of caution, but at least consult him before you give yourself a heart attack or blow out your ribcage. :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 10, 2013, 12:27:28 AM
I thought I was addicted to Getbig before. Now I am spending way too much time posting here. I just hope I don't screw up and post something that starts a shit storm.

I used to take this place too seriously. I think I've gained thicker skin and learned to roll with the punches by now. This period of over exposure will be the real test.

Here's a weird thing. My knee feels so good since the surgery it is really hard to remember to stay off it and this is only day three. I hope I can do this for 30 days. I want this knee as good as new.
yes itīs nothing serious on here...Entertainment and fun.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 10, 2013, 01:22:28 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 10, 2013, 06:36:01 AM
chest/tri/abs

pecs
inc dbells,55/65/70/75 12/10/8/5 drop 60 and  6 more..
flat db press turn palms in at top 60/65/70 drop to 60
hammer mid/lower pec 2 plates/2.5/3 plates 12/10/9
supersetted inc dbell flyes 45/45/45 x10-8 with dips
2 sets pec deck finish squeeze..

tris
pushdowns x4
extension machine padded at elbows x3
dip tri machine x3
2 sets rope extensions pull out at bottom

abs

Loving your workouts Steve
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 10, 2013, 08:46:08 AM
Loving your workouts Steve
THANKS KEN,,,LAST YR OR SO I GOT OUT OF THE TYPICAL SET,REPS ,SET IN STONE REGIMINE,NOW I DO A LOT OD DROPS,TRI SETS,LIMITED REST TYPE,BUT STILL HEAVY RELATIVLEY SPEAKING,AND MY BUILD IS DENSER,AND MORE CONDITIONED FOR IT.AMAZING RUN ,I ENJOY THE GYM SO MUCH.AND STILL DO ZERO CARDIO  :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 10, 2013, 12:55:36 PM
THANKS KEN,,,LAST YR OR SO I GOT OUT OF THE TYPICAL SET,REPS ,SET IN STONE REGIMINE,NOW I DO A LOT OD DROPS,TRI SETS,LIMITED REST TYPE,BUT STILL HEAVY RELATIVLEY SPEAKING,AND MY BUILD IS DENSER,AND MORE CONDITIONED FOR IT.AMAZING RUN ,I ENJOY THE GYM SO MUCH.AND STILL DO ZERO CARDIO  :o

Same here....arm day today 4iu Seros pre-workout
Pushdowns ss DB curls 5 sets
Incline bench 2 arm DB extensions ss DB preacher curls 3 sets
Incline smith machine close grips ss cable curls 3 sets
Reverse pushdowns ss rope curls 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 10, 2013, 01:13:30 PM
Same here....arm day today 4iu Seros pre-workout
Pushdowns ss DB curls 5 sets
Incline bench 2 arm DB extensions ss DB preacher curls 3 sets
Incline smith machine close grips ss cable curls 3 sets
Reverse pushdowns ss rope curls 3 sets
I SPLIT ARMS I LIKE THIS ROUTINE THO...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 10, 2013, 02:25:41 PM
I SPLIT ARMS I LIKE THIS ROUTINE THO...

Every few months I change it up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on September 10, 2013, 10:14:15 PM
;D

LOL!!!!!

Extremely funny video!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 11, 2013, 05:07:15 PM
Felt like an old man today...should have taken the day off but......

4iu Seros/250mg Galenika Test/150mg NPP/50mg Winny

Leg Press 8 sets
calves on leg press 3 sets
seated calf 3 sets
rope pulldown kneeling abs 5 sets

went home.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 11, 2013, 07:52:31 PM
back
front pulldowns 1 warmup then 3 full
bent over rows 185,205,215 12/10/10
low pully rows cable 180/195/210 12/10/10
hammer reverse grip pulldowns 2 plates per side x3 sets 10...
finished standing hand on rack db rows 80/90's sets 10
 weighted hypers

bi's
seated curl machine x3
dbell curls hammer version but done on knee like concetrated curls
curls straight bar x3 8-10 85 lb's tough at this point
finished x2 seated back to backrest db curls 30/35

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 12, 2013, 01:08:29 AM
back
front pulldowns 1 warmup then 3 full
bent over rows 185,205,215 12/10/10
low pully rows cable 180/195/210 12/10/10
hammer reverse grip pulldowns 2 plates per side x3 sets 10...
finished standing hand on rack db rows 80/90's sets 10
 weighted hypers

bi's
seated curl machine x3
dbell curls hammer version but done on knee like concetrated curls
curls straight bar x3 8-10 85 lb's tough at this point
finished x2 seated back to backrest db curls 30/35

abs

nice Steve. I trained chest and back yesterday and then a 45 min fast run.

Parallel bar Dips 4xmax Superset with chin ups 4xmax
push ups(with push up bars) 4xmax Superset with One arm Db rows 4x10
Flat bench flys 3x10-12
upright rows (Close Grip) 3x10

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 12, 2013, 05:47:53 AM
nice Steve. I trained chest and back yesterday and then a 45 min fast run.

Parallel bar Dips 4xmax Superset with chin ups 4xmax
push ups(with push up bars) 4xmax Superset with One arm Db rows 4x10
Flat bench flys 3x10-12
upright rows (Close Grip) 3x10


welcome back ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 12, 2013, 10:46:00 AM
welcome back ;D
yeah.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 12, 2013, 11:04:36 AM
Delt/Trap day...felt like myself again today.

4iu Serostim pre-workout/50mg Winny

Barbell Press 5 sets last set drop set worked up to 185
DB laterals 25X20 35X15 45X10 drop set 45/35/25/15
behind the back cable laterals 3 sets
front barbell raise 4 sets
rear DB raise ss with pulls to the face 4 sets
Db Shrugs 3 sets
behind the back barbell shrug 3 sets

1 hr.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 12, 2013, 11:15:05 AM
Delt/Trap day...felt like myself again today.

4iu Serostim pre-workout/50mg Winny

Barbell Press 5 sets last set drop set worked up to 185
DB laterals 25X20 35X15 45X10 drop set 45/35/25/15
behind the back cable laterals 3 sets
front barbell raise 4 sets
rear DB raise ss with pulls to the face 4 sets
Db Shrugs 3 sets
behind the back barbell shrug 3 sets

1 hr.
i'm spot on with that same workout  :Ddamn ken...anyway try front raise bar with premade curl bar but do underhanded grip and do the front raise ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 12, 2013, 03:07:53 PM
My surgeon called me this morning to see how my knee was doing. I told him that I had no pain and the knee felt great. I also mentioned how difficult it is to remember to not bear any weight on that leg. He said that as long as I was on level ground (like around the inside of the house) I could bear weight on it.

Apparently, the delaminated cartilage was smaller then a dime in size and it was located deep in the horn. The area sure looked bigger in the video. Anyway, this is not an area affected much by normal walking. I am still using the crutches though and sitting around with my leg elevated as much as possible. I might as well take advantage of my daughter being here to help us. I don't want her to feel like she wasted a trip home.

I am wondering if TRT affects healing in a positive way. Testosterone is responsible for improved bone strength. Maybe it also helps new tissue grow, like what is supposed to be happening deep inside my knee.

Typical of me, I've lost weight. I was 197 lbs. this morning. I don't get hungry when I don't exert myself. If this keeps up for a month, I'll look like Galeinko with 0% body fat.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 12, 2013, 08:40:21 PM
delts
standing front press on smith x4
underhanded grip front raise with curl bar x3 50/60/70
side laterals 25/30/35 then 35 25/20/15 drop
cable bent over rear delt x3
finish behind back laterals x2

shrugs 185/225/275/295
2 sets 45 lb plate each hand arms 20 reps pullup squeeze

calves standing calf raise x5

forearms weight rope rollups x3
reverse curls  x3

newer pic been a while lol,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 12, 2013, 11:47:44 PM
Looking fit Steve, but what happened to your tan from the vacation?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 13, 2013, 03:47:09 AM
Looking fit Steve, but what happened to your tan from the vacation?
got fancy shot it in my basement under fluorescent lights lol,,,light washes out color.does make even whiter looking just like way definition came out,vanity...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 13, 2013, 05:08:45 AM
waiting jay  ;D...get better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 13, 2013, 06:28:20 AM
i'm spot on with that same workout  :Ddamn ken...anyway try front raise bar with premade curl bar but do underhanded grip and do the front raise ..

Haven't tried that...thanks I will.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 13, 2013, 06:29:26 AM
delts
standing front press on smith x4
underhanded grip front raise with curl bar x3 50/60/70
side laterals 25/30/35 then 35 25/20/15 drop
cable bent over rear delt x3
finish behind back laterals x2

shrugs 185/225/275/295
2 sets 45 lb plate each hand arms 20 reps pullup squeeze

calves standing calf raise x5

forearms weight rope rollups x3
reverse curls  x3

newer pic been a while lol,,,

Outstanding physique Steve.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 13, 2013, 07:07:00 AM
Outstanding physique Steve.
thanks brother,,,you have been a great addition here,,,donny/jay/booty have all bonded and meshed here as a small group,and chaos stops in to turn things 'up'once in a while ;D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 13, 2013, 08:37:19 AM
thanks brother,,,you have been a great addition here,,,donny/jay/booty have all bonded and meshed here as a small group,and chaos stops in to turn things 'up'once in a while ;D...
yes we all get on great here... all good. Getbig is a place for Mayhem but also serious stuff too... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 13, 2013, 08:40:56 AM
so anyway i trained shoulders and arms today..

seated dB press 4x10
seated side raises 4x12
seated Bent over raises 4x12

ez bar curls 5x8-10(superset with )
lying BB extensions 5x10-12
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 13, 2013, 11:33:48 AM
got fancy shot it in my basement under fluorescent lights lol,,,light washes out color.does make even whiter looking just like way definition came out,vanity...

No worries, I am pretty white these days myself. Haven't had the inclination to lay out in the sun and today it is cloudy and cool anyway.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 13, 2013, 11:35:55 AM
waiting jay  ;D...get better.

-Not exactly waiting quietly. Looks to me like your working those wheels pretty good. Guess I better go do my leg lifts and extensions now.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 13, 2013, 12:14:04 PM
thanks brother,,,you have been a great addition here,,,donny/jay/booty have all bonded and meshed here as a small group,and chaos stops in to turn things 'up'once in a while ;D...

Thanks guys for having me...It's nice to see how us "aging gracefully" fellas train.
Arms day....( train arms 2X week)
4iu Seros/500EQ (front load) 250 Galenika Test/100NPP/50 Winny

Rope pushdowns with pause ss reverse pushdowns 4 sets
Lying barbell Extensions on the floor with pause on floor 3 sets ( EZ curl with 35's)
Dip Machine 3 sets
V-bar pushdrown drop set....stack/150/120/90/60
smith machine bar curls 2X20
Hammer curls 3x10 40s
Preacher cable curls 3 sets
barbell curls 2 sets
Incline high cable curls 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 14, 2013, 05:19:19 PM
wheels today full blast...

hack squats warmed 1 plate x20,2 plates x12...then 3 plates/4 plates/5/5.5..reps 12-10
leg press x3 5/6/7plates.
walking lunges x2 50 lb dbells
1 legged extension x3 12 rep sets ..liking these last few workouts.

hams
lying curls 140 x10.150 x10,155 x9
stiff legged deadlift dbells x2 60/70 10 reps
seated leg curls 180/195/195

calve seated x3 3 plates sets 15/12/12
standing calf raise x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 15, 2013, 04:54:02 AM
was out running in the Woods today where i always run.. Itīs not an area designated for Hunting wild game because itīs near a built up area and used by a lot of People Walking,running,taking their Dogs out. i was running and heard shots and thought WTF... then i ran down a track where i run and saw about 15 People running around with guns ??? I mean These Woods are full of People Walking on a Sunday and i have never in all the years i run there seen this. Accident waiting to go off... over here they look like this .....  ::)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 15, 2013, 08:25:55 AM
Sunday morning chest 9 trained with my wife today

50mg Winny/4iu Seros/500EQ/250 Test E/100Npp

Incline Smith machine 95X20/135X15/185X12/225X8 drop set 275X5/225X5/185X5/135X15
Flat Bench Press 225X10 x 3
Cable Crossover 3 sets
Decline Cable Flies 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 15, 2013, 10:04:42 PM
was out running in the Woods today where i always run.. Itīs not an area designated for Hunting wild game because itīs near a built up area and used by a lot of People Walking,running,taking their Dogs out. i was running and heard shots and thought WTF... then i ran down a track where i run and saw about 15 People running around with guns ??? I mean These Woods are full of People Walking on a Sunday and i have never in all the years i run there seen this. Accident waiting to go off... over here they look like this .....  ::)


Ha, ha, these look like some interesting guns.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 15, 2013, 10:08:55 PM
We've had houseguests from out of town for the past couple of days. The visit has been really enjoyable for us all. The leave tomorrow morning for Santa Clara, CA. The bad news is that I have not been pampering my knee as I should have been. I've barely used the crutches for a couple of days and only now at 10:00 p.m. have I managed to apply an ice pack and elevate my leg. I hope to get back on track with my recovery regime tomorrow after our guests head out.

My leg feels tired, but still no specific knee pain....so I hope this is good sign.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 16, 2013, 05:44:11 AM
We've had houseguests from out of town for the past couple of days. The visit has been really enjoyable for us all. The leave tomorrow morning for Santa Clara, CA. The bad news is that I have not been pampering my knee as I should have been. I've barely used the crutches for a couple of days and only now at 10:00 p.m. have I managed to apply an ice pack and elevate my leg. I hope to get back on track with my recovery regime tomorrow after our guests head out.

My leg feels tired, but still no specific knee pain....so I hope this is good sign.
8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 16, 2013, 01:29:43 PM
Back day 4iu Seros/50mg Winny

Barbell Rows 95X15 135X15 185X12 225X8 drop set 245/195/145/95
Straight arm pulldowns 3 sets
Wide grip chins 3X10
Seated pulley rows with rope 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 16, 2013, 07:40:23 PM
chest took a page from big ken on drops

fdb press 60/70/80..drop 80x5/65x6/55x6
inc press x3 and last set pumped 15 rep with plate per
hammer lower /mid press seated 2 plates/2.5 /3 plates
inc flyes x3 40/40/45
dips x2 12 reps with feet elevated pushups x10 did 2 x around

tri's
pushdowns 120/130/140/150 reps 15/12/12/10
overhead extensions cable straight bar x3 100/120/130 12/10/10
cable kick backs x3
close grip bench x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 16, 2013, 07:58:46 PM
chest took a page from big ken on drops

fdb press 60/70/80..drop 80x5/65x6/55x6
inc press x3 and last set pumped 15 rep with plate per
hammer lower /mid press seated 2 plates/2.5 /3 plates
inc flyes x3 40/40/45
dips x2 12 reps with feet elevated pushups x10 did 2 x around

tri's
pushdowns 120/130/140/150 reps 15/12/12/10
overhead extensions cable straight bar x3 100/120/130 12/10/10
cable kick backs x3
close grip bench x2

abs

Killer workout!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 16, 2013, 08:04:17 PM
Killer workout!
thanx ken.your last chest work out strong as shit on drop inclines .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 16, 2013, 11:03:26 PM
100 leg lifts

100 leg extensions

This is getting boring!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 17, 2013, 01:01:38 AM
100 leg lifts

100 leg extensions

This is getting boring!
remember in 1999 after my knee op i did leg lifts and adduction /abduction with iron boots on my feet.. still got them in my basement ;D donīt laugh it worked.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 17, 2013, 06:59:21 AM
thanx ken.your last chest work out strong as shit on drop inclines .

Thanks it's taken me years since the rotator cuff surgery to get back to this.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 17, 2013, 01:30:33 PM
Wed arms....picture my Grand daughter took in Cape May NJ...She said Pop Pop make a muscle. So I tried.

4iu Seros/500 EQ/250 TestE/100NPP/75 Winny 

Pushdowns ss with cable curls 4 sets
French Press ss with alternate DB curls 3 sets
Overhead V bar extensions ss with spider curls 3 sets
Rope pushdowns w pause ss reverse curls 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 17, 2013, 01:39:29 PM
Wed arms....picture my Grand daughter took in Cape May NJ...She said Pop Pop make a muscle. So I tried.

4iu Seros/500 EQ/250 TestE/100NPP/75 Winny 

Pushdowns ss with cable curls 4 sets
French Press ss with alternate DB curls 3 sets
Overhead V bar extensions ss with spider curls 3 sets
Rope pushdowns w pause ss reverse curls 3 sets
COOL PIC .CAPE MAY IS GREAT,TOOK KIDS TO WILDWOOD THIS YR,USUALLY LBI..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 17, 2013, 02:22:52 PM
COOL PIC .CAPE MAY IS GREAT,TOOK KIDS TO WILDWOOD THIS YR,USUALLY LBI..

Thanks my man...my wife likes it there...all the Victorian homes and all.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 17, 2013, 04:50:31 PM
-Stitches out today. Doc says I am doing good. Started stretching out the ligaments in the back of my leg using gravity by bridging my leg from the chair to the coffee table. This is pretty uncomfortable but I need to work on being able to fully straighten my leg out if I don't want to walk with a limp for the rest of my life.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 17, 2013, 10:53:00 PM
Wed arms....picture my Grand daughter took in Cape May NJ...She said Pop Pop make a muscle. So I tried.

4iu Seros/500 EQ/250 TestE/100NPP/75 Winny 

Pushdowns ss with cable curls 4 sets
French Press ss with alternate DB curls 3 sets
Overhead V bar extensions ss with spider curls 3 sets
Rope pushdowns w pause ss reverse curls 3 sets
nice supersets going on in there... Spider curls are a real Oldie but good
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 18, 2013, 06:37:43 AM
nice supersets going on in there... Spider curls are a real Oldie but good

Thanks...yea I have been pulling old school stuff out of my hat recently!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 18, 2013, 07:04:30 AM
Thanks...yea I have been pulling old school stuff out of my hat recently!
yes great for maximizing workout time and saving your Joints. do you also do them for one muscle Group or just antagonistic ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 18, 2013, 07:25:31 AM
yes great for maximizing workout time and saving your Joints. do you also do them for one muscle Group or just antagonistic ?

Mostly arms......I like to do ss for calves though. The only time I use them for same bodypart is pre-exhaust. I have been doing a lot of drop sets and pause sets. Like for calves I will do 15 reps standing calf raise then hold at the top for 10 seconds then 10 more reps then hold again then 10 more reps then hobble off. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 18, 2013, 07:45:51 AM
Mostly arms......I like to do ss for calves though. The only time I use them for same bodypart is pre-exhaust. I have been doing a lot of drop sets and pause sets. Like for calves I will do 15 reps standing calf raise then hold at the top for 10 seconds then 10 more reps then hold again then 10 more reps then hobble off. ;D
all great stuff.. talking of supersets i love this Combo... he says itīs Gironda Dips in the Video but they aint.. anyway i do normal Dips and Sternum chin ups
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 18, 2013, 09:15:48 AM
all great stuff.. talking of supersets i love this Combo... he says itīs Gironda Dips in the Video but they aint.. anyway i do normal Dips and Sternum chin ups


Used to do that years ago...regular dips are tough after the rotator cuff surgery. Some days they are fine and others can't do even one.

4iu Seros/75mg Winny....Legs

Standing calves...15 reps hold at top 10sec 10 reps hold 10 reps 3 sets
Seated calf raises 3 setsX20
Leg Extensions 20 reps 15 sec 15 reps 15 sec 15 reps 15 sec 10 reps 15sec 10 reps 15 sec 8 reps 2X
Leg Curls 5 sets
Abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 18, 2013, 10:28:47 AM
I love Dips for chest. Feel my chest better than Benches. However Dumbbells are good too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 18, 2013, 10:30:47 AM
I love Dips for chest. Feel my chest better than Benches. However Dumbbells are good too.

Yea I agree...I could never feel regular bench in the chest unless I went real wide and that hurts now. Incline DBs/Decline cable flys/Dips when I can.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 18, 2013, 10:36:41 AM
Yea I agree...I could never feel regular bench in the chest unless I went real wide and that hurts now. Incline DBs/Decline cable flys/Dips when I can.
Decline press is in my opinion superior to flat or incline press and you can normaly do it with shoulder issues. your Training Posts are spot on .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 18, 2013, 11:03:08 AM
DIPS IF CAN BE DONE DUE TO PEOPLE/TRAINEES SHOULDER ISSUES IF THEY OCCUR,ARE FLAT OUT BEST EXERCISE FOR PUMP AS THEY COME,DIP/FLYE SUPERSET IS ONE OF MY FAV'S OR DIP/CABLE CROSSOVER'S
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 18, 2013, 11:22:21 AM
Decline press is in my opinion superior to flat or incline press and you can normaly do it with shoulder issues. your Training Posts are spot on .

Agreed but don't laugh...at my age it takes me 10 minutes to get my legs in an out of the bench with help!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 18, 2013, 11:29:14 AM
DIPS IF CAN BE DONE DUE TO PEOPLE/TRAINEES SHOULDER ISSUES IF THEY OCCUR,ARE FLAT OUT BEST EXERCISE FOR PUMP AS THEY COME,DIP/FLYE SUPERSET IS ONE OF MY FAV'S OR DIP/CABLE CROSSOVER'S
exactly Steve.. for me a main chest exercise. Dips hit it all. The pump i get from push ups straight after.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 18, 2013, 07:54:34 PM
-Been thinking (and it hurts, ;D) that despite that my knee is out of commission, why can't I go to the gym on crutches and do some upper body exercises? I neglected to discuss this with my doctor the other day during my follow up visit. Truth be told, I am fucking sick of sitting around the house like an invalid. Donny, any advice here? You being the trainer in the group, surely you must have some ideas as to whether I can still do some workouts. It is not like I am a muscle bound freak in terms of upper body development.

Just because I was sick of doing them, I have not done my 100 reps of leg lifts and extensions yet today. I did do the bridge work to stretch out my tendons. It was so much easier today then yesterday. I don't think I will need to do these for very long.

Our daughter is still here taking care of us, which is much appreciated. She is probably stopping me from pushing it too far. I have yet to try to mow the lawn, for example. This is consistent with doctor's orders, which precluded doing anything leg-wise which was not on level ground (who knows when the random Getbigger might show up and challenge me to a fight? LOL). He honestly told me to walk on the crutches when out in public to ward off attacks that might cause me to compromise my gait and thus hurt my knee.

As you all know, I am on TRT. I have wondered if this helps or hinders my recovery. Any thoughts about this?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 18, 2013, 08:18:35 PM
back,had to think on feet 2 nite late/late workout usually do back/bi's,doing bi's with delts tommorrow..

to cut time on back super setted

chinups x3 15/12/12 supersetted with low cable pulley rows 165/180/185 10/10/10
bent over rows x3 135/185/205 12/10/10 with hammer reverse grip pulldowns set1 plate and 25 then 2 45's for 2 sets reps 10/8/8/
tbar padded chest to pad 2 plates x3 10/10/10 with rope pulldowns attached at top and pulled to waist and opened at finished portion

weighted hypers

abs
quick but great pump..

i usually don't post single bodypart pics other than legs for jay lol,,but couple biceps shots,arms aren't my best bodyparts size wise but decent shape and condition,left and right
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 19, 2013, 12:03:22 AM
back,had to think on feet 2 nite late/late workout usually do back/bi's,doing bi's with delts tommorrow..

to cut time on back super setted

chinups x3 15/12/12 supersetted with low cable pulley rows 165/180/185 10/10/10
bent over rows x3 135/185/205 12/10/10 with hammer reverse grip pulldowns set1 plate and 25 then 2 45's for 2 sets reps 10/8/8/
tbar padded chest to pad 2 plates x3 10/10/10 with rope pulldowns attached at top and pulled to waist and opened at finished portion

weighted hypers

abs
quick but great pump..

i usually don't post single bodypart pics other than legs for jay lol,,but couple biceps shots,arms aren't my best bodyparts size wise but decent shape and condition,left and right
look big and solid to me Steve...good Biceps...  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 19, 2013, 02:17:57 PM
Shoulder day
4iu Seros pre-workout
500EQ/250TestE/100Npp/75 Winny

DB presses 35X20 40X15 45X12 50X10 55X10 60X8
Shoulder press machine 2 sets
Lateral raises 30X20 40X15 50X10 drop set 50X8/40X8/30X8/20X8/10X8
Rear cable crossovers 3X20
Reverse pek dek 3X10
DB shrugs 4X75X10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 19, 2013, 08:07:52 PM
delts changed it up a bit

front press standing x4
cable side laterals x3
underhanded curl bar front raises x3
rear delt peck deck x3
finished another outer delt wide bar upright rows x3

shrugs 225 x2 12 reps/275 x2 x10-12

bis
seated curls 30/35/40
seated hammer concetration same way but turn hand dumbell faces up at top finish x3 30/35/35
seated elbow padded curl machine x3
finished standard barbell curls x3

calves
foearms wrist roll cable top part cable and stretch then gooseneck at finish/also rope attached weight up/down.up supersetted both.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 20, 2013, 12:26:36 AM
i trained shoulders +arms yesterday. with this Tri-set..

seated DB press 4x10
seated DB side raises 4x10
bent over laterals 4x10   

ez bar curls 4x10 Superset with
Close grip Benches 4x6-10

one arm DB tri ext behind head 3x10 with
seated DB curls 3x10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 20, 2013, 04:54:04 AM
i trained shoulders +arms yesterday. with this Tri-set..

seated DB press 4x10
seated DB side raises 4x10
bent over laterals 4x10   

ez bar curls 4x10 Superset with
Close grip Benches 4x6-10

one arm DB tri ext behind head 3x10 with
seated DB curls 3x10
NICE DONNY,,I'VE TRIED JURY STILL OUT CONCETRATION HAMMERS ,ELBOW TUCKED TO INNER LEG AND CURL BUT HAMMER GRIP.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 20, 2013, 08:31:09 AM
NICE DONNY,,I'VE TRIED JURY STILL OUT CONCETRATION HAMMERS ,ELBOW TUCKED TO INNER LEG AND CURL BUT HAMMER GRIP.
sounds good Steve. I have done Hammer curls on a preacher bench, like ez reverse curls it works well. I trained legs Today...

supersets...
leg extensions 3x10-15
lying leg curls 3x10-15

Squats 5x10
Romanian deadlifts 5x10
seated Barbell Calf raises (trained at home Today) 5x15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 20, 2013, 02:27:22 PM
Greetings senior citizens...my wife and I went to the movies last night and we both got 55 and over senior citizen discount.....sad.

75mg Winny/4iu Seros...arms

Rope pushdowns w/pause ss with hammer curls 3 sets
Close Grip smith ss with DB preachers 4 sets
reverse grip pushdowns ss with lying high pulley cable curls 3 sets
one arm pushdowns ss with one arm extensions ss concentration curls 2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 20, 2013, 05:45:22 PM
So for the last few days, my knee cap is sore. I can't exactly call it pain. Maybe some nerves have reconnected already. I continue to do the doctor prescribed exercises. I am doing them in sets now rather then each hour. The crutches are a total pain at this point. Without them I can almost walk with a normal gait. With them, I hang my right leg off behind me like I am a wounded deer.

I mentioned hitting the gym and saw horror on my wife and daughter's face. I see no reason why I cannot do upper body work. Especially if it is seated exercises.

Working out is a big part of my life. This imposed recovery is killing me. I am so bored. I keep thinking of things to do and then worry I will be fucking up my recovery if I do them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 21, 2013, 06:56:53 PM
legs..

started warm up with sore knee r/s last few wks with extensions..
175 x15,190 x12,205 x12,220,x12,335x12,250x12
squats 135x12,225x10,275x10,315x10,365x8
leg press 5 plates/6/7 12/10/8
single leg non walking lunges step foward/back 50 lbs dbell's 10 reps per leg x2

hams added some extra set/movement
sldl dbells 55/65/75,10/10/10
lying leg curls 140/150/155
seated leg curls /180/195

calves leg press calf raise x3 seated calf x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 22, 2013, 04:48:50 AM
so Today i went for a run in the Woods. I was joined by a Dog in the Woods who ran along side me most of the way...was funny. was tempted to take it home with me. was some ones pet and not stray because it looked well kept and wore a collar. I might look into getting a Little Dog. I want Funk's Husky.. ;D perfect size.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 22, 2013, 09:07:02 AM
Alright the six days at week training has finally caught up with me. Was half dead today.
75mg Winny/4iu Seros

Flat bench barbell press all with 1 sec pause at chest
135X15 185X15 205X12 225X10 225X10 185X0 135X10
Incline DB press 3X10X50
Incline cable flys 3x10

 
 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 23, 2013, 11:52:49 AM
chest + back

parallel Bar Dips 4xmax
push ups (push up bars ) 4xmax
Flat DB flyes 3x10

Sternum chins 3x max
one arm DB rows 4x10
Close grip upright BB rows 3x8-10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 23, 2013, 07:40:38 PM
chest
inc dbells,50/60/70/75 12/12/10/8
hammer press lying x3 2 plates per
seated hanner mid .lower/decline press x3 2 plates,2.5 plates/3 plates 15/12/8
cable crossovers x3 15/12/12
dips x2 15 reps

tri's
pushdowns x4
tri extensions seated x3
kickback cable x3
2 sets finish inc close grip

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 24, 2013, 02:09:15 AM
chest
inc dbells,50/60/70/75 12/12/10/8
hammer press lying x3 2 plates per
seated hanner mid .lower/decline press x3 2 plates,2.5 plates/3 plates 15/12/8
cable crossovers x3 15/12/12
dips x2 15 reps

tri's
pushdowns x4
tri extensions seated x3
kickback cable x3
2 sets finish inc close grip

abs

I wish we had Hammer strength machines in our Gym. Loved using them in the last Gym i was in. Loved the pull down and rowing machine. we only had a few, seated calf raise,incline press,rowing,pulldown machine...squat rack and benches. solid plate loading kit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 24, 2013, 07:36:12 AM
Back day yesterday was sad....might need a little time off.
250EQ/250TestE/100NPP/75Winny
4iu Seros pre-workout

Reverse grip pulldowns 8 sets
wide grip straightarm  pulldowns 3 sets
v grip pulley rows 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on September 24, 2013, 04:41:25 PM
Did arms today and still had nothing....leaving on a business trip tomorrow. Be gone for a week. Time to do a little cutting back whilst away.

75mg Winny/4iu Seros

single arm pushdowns ss w overhead extensions ss DB curls 3 sets
rope pushdowns ss w preacher machine 3 sets
dip machine 2 sets

left....sadness
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 24, 2013, 08:30:16 PM
In the event you all thought I'd expired, I have not.

Knee recovery is going well. Still doing at least 100 leg raises and 100 extensions every day, probably more. I've all but abandoned the crutches because, well, they are a total pain in the ass. My gait is near normal. Trying to walk like a truck driver with a watermelon between his legs just to look butch. LOL!

Yesterday I did something very stupid without thinking. For reasons I won't go into here, I was standing on a low wall in my backyard taking photos of my roof cap vents and jumped off the wall. After some moments of panic, I realized my knee was good.

My daughter who has been here helping us get by while I recover is going home to El Paso, TX on Thursday. I only hope I didn't make her feel her willingness to take care of her aging parents was wasted.

I am thinking of hitting the gym. I see no reason why I cannot do upper body exercises. I'll wait to do anything which impacts my knee until I get an okay from the doctor. Truth be told, I am so incredibly bored. A big piece of my routine is centered around the time at the gym exercising.

On a plus note, I am presently wearing some 34" jeans which have been too tight to be comfortable for awhile. They are not only comfortable, but there is room to spare around the waistband. 32" inch jeans won't fit over my quads without a struggle. Steve, look out, I am going to own your leg development pretty soon. I am holding at about 199 to 200 lbs.

On another note, I needed some more syringes to inject my weekly dose of testosterone cypionate. The pharmacy that fills my prescription for test wouldn't sell me the syringes without a prescription, which is not a problem since I am doing everything on the up and up. As it turns out, this is not a federal or state law, but a company policy. I was able to get the syringes at a different pharmacy. Now I am looking to move the prescription for test to this pharmacy which is the pharmacy of choice anyway.

I am so impressed with the posts in the Mature thread. Everyone here seems focused on staying fit and not on all the crap that goes on throughout the rest of Getbig. Thank you a hundred fold for starting this thread, Donny. You're the man!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on September 24, 2013, 09:41:42 PM
Prime, difference is most people posting in this thread have posted their pics and proven to be real people so they don't have to live up to some anonymous online reputation. Most people here lead normal lives and enjoy working out. Glad to see this thread has stayed the course. So far Ken has proven to be a nice addition to the bunch.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 24, 2013, 10:55:09 PM
In the event you all thought I'd expired, I have not.

Knee recovery is going well. Still doing at least 100 leg raises and 100 extensions every day, probably more. I've all but abandoned the crutches because, well, they are a total pain in the ass. My gait is near normal. Trying to walk like a truck driver with a watermelon between his legs just to look butch. LOL!

Yesterday I did something very stupid without thinking. For reasons I won't go into here, I was standing on a low wall in my backyard taking photos of my roof cap vents and jumped off the wall. After some moments of panic, I realized my knee was good.

My daughter who has been here helping us get by while I recover is going home to El Paso, TX on Thursday. I only hope I didn't make her feel her willingness to take care of her aging parents was wasted.

I am thinking of hitting the gym. I see no reason why I cannot do upper body exercises. I'll wait to do anything which impacts my knee until I get an okay from the doctor. Truth be told, I am so incredibly bored. A big piece of my routine is centered around the time at the gym exercising.

On a plus note, I am presently wearing some 34" jeans which have been too tight to be comfortable for awhile. They are not only comfortable, but there is room to spare around the waistband. 32" inch jeans won't fit over my quads without a struggle. Steve, look out, I am going to own your leg development pretty soon. I am holding at about 199 to 200 lbs.

On another note, I needed some more syringes to inject my weekly dose of testosterone cypionate. The pharmacy that fills my prescription for test wouldn't sell me the syringes without a prescription, which is not a problem since I am doing everything on the up and up. As it turns out, this is not a federal or state law, but a company policy. I was able to get the syringes at a different pharmacy. Now I am looking to move the prescription for test to this pharmacy which is the pharmacy of choice anyway.

I am so impressed with the posts in the Mature thread. Everyone here seems focused on staying fit and not on all the crap that goes on throughout the rest of Getbig. Thank you a hundred fold for starting this thread, Donny. You're the man!
Thanks Jay. Great Posts on here and all get on. Just now and again Posts come in from disillusioned people ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 24, 2013, 10:56:29 PM
Prime, difference is most people posting in this thread have posted their pics and proven to be real people so they don't have to live up to some anonymous online reputation. Most people here lead normal lives and enjoy working out. Glad to see this thread has stayed the course. So far Ken has proven to be a nice addition to the bunch.
Thank you for your words of wisdom chaos.....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 25, 2013, 08:48:38 AM
Shoulders + arms

one arm DB press free Hand Holding onto squat stand) per side 4x10
Seated side raised 4x10
Bent over raises (forehead on slight inclined bench) 4x10

Standing ez bar curls 5x10
Standing one arm extensions behind head 5x12
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 25, 2013, 09:04:36 AM
Wrist curls.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 25, 2013, 09:08:50 AM
Wrist curls.
i prefer reverse ez bar curls. but you are correct i am missing direct forearm work.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 25, 2013, 09:13:51 AM
i prefer reverse ez bar curls. but you are correct i am missing direct forearm work.
Well the reverse hits top forearm only Donny. You may need to go to some direct work on barbell or DB to beef up the the underside. I see so many BB with huge biceps no forearms = non symmetrical.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 25, 2013, 09:25:47 AM
Well the reverse hits top forearm only Donny. You may need to go to some direct work on barbell or DB to beef up the the underside. I see so many BB with huge biceps no forearms = non symmetrical.
know what your saying but using a thumbless grip i also engage the belly of the forearm and i do supinated chins. I have never liked wrist curls or reverse wrist curls to work my forearms(arms supported). I would normally agree on any other bodypart but for me Reverse ez bar curls standing or over a preacher bench. Look at Steve's arms and he does overhand wrist roller...his lower arms are HUGE.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 25, 2013, 09:30:09 AM
know what your saying but using a thumbless grip i also engage the belly of the forearm and i do supinated chins. I have never liked wrist curls or reverse wrist curls to work my forearms(arms supported). I would normally agree on any other bodypart but for me Reverse ez bar curls standing or over a preacher bench. Look at Steve's arms and he does overhand wrist roller...his lower arms are HUGE.
I am not understanding if you dont have the underside forearms you got to do direct work for them reverse only hits top. Steve probably has good genes for forearms. Reverse is not going to hit friend.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 25, 2013, 09:45:31 AM
I am not understanding if you dont have the underside forearms you got to do direct work for them reverse only hits top. Steve probably has good genes for forearms. Reverse is not going to hit friend.
grip a bar thumbless and do a reverse curl
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 25, 2013, 09:53:37 AM
the ez bar puts you in a Position positive for forearm work with a reverse grip. Think of the Hand Position thumbless. the angle hits inner and outside forearms.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 25, 2013, 01:02:47 PM
Prime, difference is most people posting in this thread have posted their pics and proven to be real people so they don't have to live up to some anonymous online reputation. Most people here lead normal lives and enjoy working out. Glad to see this thread has stayed the course. So far Ken has proven to be a nice addition to the bunch.

The next time I post a photo of myself, I am going to seek advice on what to wear and I won't be asking Kai Greene for advice on this.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 25, 2013, 07:59:48 PM
back
chins sets 15 x3
tbar row 2.5,3 plates 3.5 plates,,,12/10/10
hammer reverse pulldown 2 plates ,2plates &10 x2..done single arm at a time .10/10/10
low pully rows cable used seperate grip handles x3
finished rope pulldowns top stretch pull to waist and pull back done standing up slight bend at waistx3

bi's
seated curl machine x3
standing dumbell curls 35/40/45
seated hammer concentration curls 30/35/35
2 sets premade curl bar 80 lb 10 reps

abs..
staying lean,eating 5x per but clean good foods,added some carbs over summer's diet,still holding good condition,might gain a bit over full winter,i like a little bit more carbs and added lbs to train heavier ,new pic..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on September 25, 2013, 08:07:49 PM
Njflex you recently posted a back shot, was that a current one?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 25, 2013, 08:10:27 PM
Njflex you recently posted a back shot, was that a current one?
taken aug 13,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on September 26, 2013, 07:04:18 AM
You carry your fat same as me. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 26, 2013, 07:34:49 AM
You carry your fat same as me. ;D
FROM THE BACK LOWER YEAH,I HAVE THICK BACK OTHERWISE,I'M NO GALIENEKO ON LOWER PART AND HAPPY BEING LEAN AS I AM WITHOUT EATING 1000 CAL'S PER DAY AND SUFFERING.I RATHER STAY A TAD BIGGER WITH DECENT CUTS.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 26, 2013, 07:48:06 AM
FROM THE BACK LOWER YEAH,I HAVE THICK BACK OTHERWISE,I'M NO GALIENEKO ON LOWER PART AND HAPPY BEING LEAN AS I AM WITHOUT EATING 1000 CAL'S PER DAY AND SUFFERING.I RATHER STAY A TAD BIGGER WITH DECENT CUTS.
i know you donīt do cardio but what if you did say 20 mins 2-3 times a week ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 26, 2013, 08:00:33 AM
i know you donīt do cardio but what if you did say 20 mins 2-3 times a week ?
I'M SURE I WOULD BENEFIT FROM IT,CONDITIONING WISE I ADJUST CARBS A BIT AND I GET THAT QUICK LEVEL OF LEANESS RATHER QUICKLY,WHEN I COMPETED I NEED SOME CARDIO IN THE END TO DRY OUT TO BE COMPETITIVE INTERMS OF REAL CONTEST LOOK.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 26, 2013, 08:02:33 AM
I'M SURE I WOULD BENEFIT FROM IT,CONDITIONING WISE I ADJUST CARBS A BIT AND I GET THAT QUICK LEVEL OF LEANESS RATHER QUICKLY,WHEN I COMPETED I NEED SOME CARDIO IN THE END TO DRY OUT TO BE COMPETITIVE INTERMS OF REAL CONTEST LOOK.
well you do great without it Steve. talking of which i might just go for a run soon.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 26, 2013, 08:08:11 AM
well you do great without it Steve. talking of which i might just go for a run soon.
NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE AND U TRAIN PEOPLE FOR LIVING,I HAVE A FAST PACE TRAINING I BEEN DOING MORE SO PAST YR AND ITS WORKING ESPECIALLY WITH 3 KIDS  :P,,,ITS STILL HEAVY TRAINING BUT LESS REST ,AND DROPS,TRI SETS WHEN NEEDED AND ALL KINDS REP SCHEMES,I HAVE ENJOYED LIFTING AGAIN LAST FEW YRS THAN ANY OTHER TIME .AND MY PHYSIQUE HAS GOTTEN BETTER/HARDER AND DIFFERENT LOOK.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 26, 2013, 08:25:35 AM
NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE AND U TRAIN PEOPLE FOR LIVING,I HAVE A FAST PACE TRAINING I BEEN DOING MORE SO PAST YR AND ITS WORKING ESPECIALLY WITH 3 KIDS  :P,,,ITS STILL HEAVY TRAINING BUT LESS REST ,AND DROPS,TRI SETS WHEN NEEDED AND ALL KINDS REP SCHEMES,I HAVE ENJOYED LIFTING AGAIN LAST FEW YRS THAN ANY OTHER TIME .AND MY PHYSIQUE HAS GOTTEN BETTER/HARDER AND DIFFERENT LOOK.
you are like a good Malt Whisky Steve...every year better... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 26, 2013, 08:35:57 AM
you are like a good Malt Whisky Steve...every year better... ;D
;D,,WE TRY DONNY WE TRY...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 26, 2013, 11:34:14 AM
;D,,WE TRY DONNY WE TRY...
was out running on the streets here...gets dark now here at 19.30....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 26, 2013, 11:41:42 AM
was out running on the streets here...gets dark now here at 19.30....
HERE TOO ABOUT 700 PM RIGHT NOW,IN SUMMER CLOSER TO 9PM
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 26, 2013, 11:46:42 AM
HERE TOO ABOUT 700 PM RIGHT NOW,IN SUMMER CLOSER TO 9PM
I like running around the streets in winter. when it gets bad weather i will do my cardio in the gym. I do try to stay outside though..even in snow. hard to believe now just a few weeks ago it was quite warm. Still i got a good run in. work my old ticker.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 27, 2013, 11:04:39 AM
trained legs today...

leg extensions 3x10-15 Superset with
leg curls 3x10-15

squats 4x10 superset with
Romanian deads) 4x10-15

seated calf raises 5x15+

the superset of Squats and Romanian deads really hurts. Got a great sweat on.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 27, 2013, 07:31:54 PM
back
chins sets 15 x3
tbar row 2.5,3 plates 3.5 plates,,,12/10/10
hammer reverse pulldown 2 plates ,2plates &10 x2..done single arm at a time .10/10/10
low pully rows cable used seperate grip handles x3
finished rope pulldowns top stretch pull to waist and pull back done standing up slight bend at waistx3

bi's
seated curl machine x3
standing dumbell curls 35/40/45
seated hammer concentration curls 30/35/35
2 sets premade curl bar 80 lb 10 reps

abs..
staying lean,eating 5x per but clean good foods,added some carbs over summer's diet,still holding good condition,might gain a bit over full winter,i like a little bit more carbs and added lbs to train heavier ,new pic..

Stop it! You look to be in better condition in every photo you post. Are you posting younger and younger photos of yourself or what?  ;D

Okay, so this is a roundabout compliment. You look great and I think you know it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 27, 2013, 07:34:24 PM
taken aug 13,,,,

I carry some fat on my lower back too. I have a long torso, thus a long back. If I ever get back in to the gym and back into some kind of decent shape, I will try and figure out how to get a photo of my back.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 27, 2013, 07:36:34 PM
well you do great without it Steve. talking of which i might just go for a run soon.

Nice way to throw in that you do cardio. I am wondering if I will ever be able to run again. Nothing gets me cut like running.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 27, 2013, 07:40:43 PM
was out running on the streets here...gets dark now here at 19.30....

It is starting to get dark earlier here too. Furthermore, the rains have kicked in big time. Last week I had to have all the roof ridge vents replaced with sturdier ones then the previous owner put in because we had high winds which blew off a couple of the caps leaving a gaping hole for the rain to get in. This is the kind of thing I would normally fix myself, but in my compromised condition as of late, I hired it out. Set me back only $500 which seemed worth it to me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 27, 2013, 07:44:11 PM
trained legs today...

leg extensions 3x10-15 Superset with
leg curls 3x10-15

squats 4x10 superset with
Romanian deads) 4x10-15

seated calf raises 5x15+

the superset of Squats and Romanian deads really hurts. Got a great sweat on.

For legs, I purchased a knee sleeve that actually has ceramic woven into the fabric which is supposed to warm the knee. I feel like I need to do something besides the exercises I am doing to regain the flexibility I've seemed to have lost in my right leg. On a positive note, I am almost walking with no limp. I should get those shortened tendons stretched back out their normal position in no time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 27, 2013, 08:30:13 PM
I carry some fat on my lower back too. I have a long torso, thus a long back. If I ever get back in to the gym and back into some kind of decent shape, I will try and figure out how to get a photo of my back.
thank u jay for kind words few things..
1,,glad ur getting better,train upper body and rehab that knee slow,use wrap/knee pad whatever just get it as best as can..
2..train or not we enjoy your stories,how u handle home with wife ,family stories..
3..i have short torso so lats are longer from back and full,i train very hard back thats why legs are hit so hard/well,plus abs are in shape,i like
rows do all forms and 2/3 movements per workout.i have dug out lower back thickness'christmas tree v there,i have some lower softness under there to oblique i can live with it and from the front u don't see my front looks lean/hard in ab area.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 27, 2013, 08:34:05 PM
delt workout yesterday,
front press x4 last set drop 3x.
side laterals 25/30/35/35 drop25
reverse rear delt machine x3
wide uprights x3 hits side delts nice
under handed front raises with curl bar x2

shrugs 225/275/275 and superset with 45 lb plate each hand to sides and repped 15-20

forarms
reverse curls with curl bar x3
superset weighted wrist rope rolls with reverse bedind back cable curls x4
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 28, 2013, 06:54:46 AM
delt workout yesterday,
front press x4 last set drop 3x.
side laterals 25/30/35/35 drop25
reverse rear delt machine x3
wide uprights x3 hits side delts nice
under handed front raises with curl bar x2

shrugs 225/275/275 and superset with 45 lb plate each hand to sides and repped 15-20

forarms
reverse curls with curl bar x3
superset weighted wrist rope rolls with reverse bedind back cable curls x4
nice Steve...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 29, 2013, 04:20:30 AM
so was running in the Woods and met a lot of People doing an Orienteering competition. Then some light ab work and will work a few hours later.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 29, 2013, 08:44:01 AM
early rise for leg day no food/cofee just up and go..

leg press warmed 1 plate/3 plates 12-15 shake rust off lol,,then did 4/5/6 plates usually seven nursing sore knee for a month :P,starting glucosomine haven't used in yrs and yrs..
hack squat was warmed well by now did 3/4/4.5 plates
walking lunges 50 dbellsx2
extensions x3 12-15reps

hams sldl dbells 55/60/70
lying leg curls 140.150/155
seated leg curls x2 180/195

calves superset standing calf raise and seated x3

leg pics  ;D donny always mentions forearms back view 'meaty'
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 29, 2013, 10:50:28 AM
Looking solid Steve.... I will train tomorrow...lot of work today
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 30, 2013, 07:46:34 PM
chest
fd press 60/70/80/80 drop to 60,,,80's working sets a miracle steady now few wks 25's buried me earlier in yr :'(,,injury long gone :D
inc press 135/185/175 then partner went and then pull plate then partner then  back 3 set in and out
seated chest press stack type x3
cable crossovers x3 sets 12/15
2 set dips set 1 bodyweight 20/then set 2 25 around waist 11 reps

tris super set day
seated extension machine elbow to pad with rope pushdowns pull out at bottom x3
close grip bench with reverse grip pulldown x3
finished kickbacks cable x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 01, 2013, 12:24:42 AM
Spent the bulk of the day at a meeting. My knee seems fine, but what concerns me is that the rest of my right leg has issues. I only hope this is the result of favoring it for the last year. I am still trying to walk like a normal dude with limited success. Maybe I could be a muscular gimp. Kidding aside, I am so ready to see the inside of my gym. Come hell or high water, I am going to go there and do something besides hit the tanning bed tomorrow.

Did I ever mention that I have issues with being patient? Enough is enough already. I have babied myself for far too long and it is time for me to man up! Not too worry, I will try my hardest to not impact my knee(s) since I am well aware that the right knee is still on the mend, but damn, it is time for me to get back to it!

Did I forget to mention that this is the best and most honest thread ever? I feel completely confident posting here regarding the nuisances staying fit as a senior citizen. Steve inspires me to be more that I can probably be and I hope I can return the favor by representing that one is never too old to be fit.....and maybe even still a little bit hot to the ladies. Steve, before I croak, I intend to own you on leg development!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 01, 2013, 01:36:02 AM
Spent the bulk of the day at a meeting. My knee seems fine, but what concerns me is that the rest of my right leg has issues. I only hope this is the result of favoring it for the last year. I am still trying to walk like a normal dude with limited success. Maybe I could be a muscular gimp. Kidding aside, I am so ready to see the inside of my gym. Come hell or high water, I am going to go there and do something besides hit the tanning bed tomorrow.

Did I ever mention that I have issues with being patient? Enough is enough already. I have babied myself for far too long and it is time for me to man up! Not too worry, I will try my hardest to not impact my knee(s) since I am well aware that the right knee is still on the mend, but damn, it is time for me to get back to it!

Did I forget to mention that this is the best and most honest thread ever? I feel completely confident posting here regarding the nuisances staying fit as a senior citizen. Steve inspires me to be more that I can probably be and I hope I can return the favor by representing that one is never too old to be fit.....and maybe even still a little bit hot to the ladies. Steve, before I croak, I intend to own you on leg development!
yes this is true Jay. peace and harmony here. Mature People and not Kids.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 01, 2013, 05:48:25 AM
Spent the bulk of the day at a meeting. My knee seems fine, but what concerns me is that the rest of my right leg has issues. I only hope this is the result of favoring it for the last year. I am still trying to walk like a normal dude with limited success. Maybe I could be a muscular gimp. Kidding aside, I am so ready to see the inside of my gym. Come hell or high water, I am going to go there and do something besides hit the tanning bed tomorrow.

Did I ever mention that I have issues with being patient? Enough is enough already. I have babied myself for far too long and it is time for me to man up! Not too worry, I will try my hardest to not impact my knee(s) since I am well aware that the right knee is still on the mend, but damn, it is time for me to get back to it!

Did I forget to mention that this is the best and most honest thread ever? I feel completely confident posting here regarding the nuisances staying fit as a senior citizen. Steve inspires me to be more that I can probably be and I hope I can return the favor by representing that one is never too old to be fit.....and maybe even still a little bit hot to the ladies. Steve, before I croak, I intend to own you on leg development!
;D.. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 01, 2013, 11:02:39 PM
Delts +arms

Seated BB front press 4x10
Seated machine side raise 4x12
rear delt machine 4x12

Incline ez bar extensions 5x10 Superset with
BB curls 5x10

Abs Crunches with calves on bench 3xmax. Cardio 30 mins Interval on Bike.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on October 02, 2013, 09:41:04 AM
Not here gentleman.....and grandpa. :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 02, 2013, 09:42:19 AM
Not here gentleman.....and grandpa. :)
thank you egg head
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 02, 2013, 09:47:54 AM
Not here gentleman.....and grandpa. :)
???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 02, 2013, 10:01:12 AM
Back from a week in GA and NC on Business.....long fucking week. Still trained but took a few extra days off due to the fact that I can't sleep in hotels for some reason. Steve looking great as usual. I hope everyone is healing up nicely. Ken
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 02, 2013, 11:06:45 AM
Back from a week in GA and NC on Business.....long fucking week. Still trained but took a few extra days off due to the fact that I can't sleep in hotels for some reason. Steve looking great as usual. I hope everyone is healing up nicely. Ken
GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK...USED TO YOUR WORKOUTS POSTED...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 02, 2013, 12:34:09 PM
GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK...USED TO YOUR WORKOUTS POSTED...

Will resume tomorrow....had some good workouts. New gyms=different equipment. Nice sometimes.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 02, 2013, 01:03:14 PM
Will resume tomorrow....had some good workouts. New gyms=different equipment. Nice sometimes.
Great to see you back  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 02, 2013, 01:16:19 PM
Great to see you back  ;D

Thank you Donny....it's nice to be home!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 02, 2013, 01:21:33 PM
Thank you Donny....it's nice to be home!
This is a place of Harmony
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 02, 2013, 03:29:26 PM
This is a place of Harmony

and peace and love ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 02, 2013, 07:54:19 PM
back
pulldowns front x4 150/165/180/190 12/10/10/8
seated cable low row 180/195/200 10/10/10
tbar row pad to chest underhand grip 2 plates x10/2 plates and 10 x10/2 plates and 2 tensx10
cable row single arm x3
rope pulldowns to waist locked arms open rope back open at waist x2

weighted hypers x3

bi's
seated curl machine elbows on pad x3
stand ing dbcurls 30/40/45
seated hammer concentration curls x3
standing premade curl bar 80 lb for 2 x10/12

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 02, 2013, 11:40:45 PM
This is a place of Harmony

You are right, it's not like some of the other threads on Getbig. I noticed that I am not the only one trading insults with the juveniles in those other threads though. fBeen having a little fun on Getbig tonight.  Now it is time for me interact with the real folks here on the Mature thread....don't want to go to bed on a sour note.  I think "Cheerioflecks" wants to come to Oregon to throw some fists or something like that. ;D

On another note. I have some good news, my wife's recently diagnosed skin cancer has been completely removed. The doctor suggested that this should take care of it. My knee continues to heal, but the sciatica is still a big problem, causing numbness in my foot and pain in my calf and right shin. At least I have the knee pain resolved. I see the doctor on October 8th. Hopefully, I can go back to working out after that. In the meantime, I am still doing at least 100 reps of the prescribed exercises for my knee each day.

Our daughter delayed flying back to Texas for a week because of my wife's appointment today. I am taking her to the airport tomorrow morning. Her family misses her as we will when she leaves. Our son is doing errands around the house since he is a government employee who is home on furlough because of the government shutdown.
 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 03, 2013, 06:45:56 AM
You are right, it's not like some of the other threads on Getbig. I noticed that I am not the only one trading insults with the juveniles in those other threads though. fBeen having a little fun on Getbig tonight.  Now it is time for me interact with the real folks here on the Mature thread....don't want to go to bed on a sour note.  I think "Cheerioflecks" wants to come to Oregon to throw some fists or something like that. ;D

On another note. I have some good news, my wife's recently diagnosed skin cancer has been completely removed. The doctor suggested that this should take care of it. My knee continues to heal, but the sciatica is still a big problem, causing numbness in my foot and pain in my calf and right shin. At least I have the knee pain resolved. I see the doctor on October 8th. Hopefully, I can go back to working out after that. In the meantime, I am still doing at least 100 reps of the prescribed exercises for my knee each day.

Our daughter delayed flying back to Texas for a week because of my wife's appointment today. I am taking her to the airport tomorrow morning. Her family misses her as we will when she leaves. Our son is doing errands around the house since he is a government employee who is home on furlough because of the government shutdown.
 
sounds like you have a lot going on Jay.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 03, 2013, 08:56:11 AM
You are right, it's not like some of the other threads on Getbig. I noticed that I am not the only one trading insults with the juveniles in those other threads though. fBeen having a little fun on Getbig tonight.  Now it is time for me interact with the real folks here on the Mature thread....don't want to go to bed on a sour note.  I think "Cheerioflecks" wants to come to Oregon to throw some fists or something like that. ;D

On another note. I have some good news, my wife's recently diagnosed skin cancer has been completely removed. The doctor suggested that this should take care of it. My knee continues to heal, but the sciatica is still a big problem, causing numbness in my foot and pain in my calf and right shin. At least I have the knee pain resolved. I see the doctor on October 8th. Hopefully, I can go back to working out after that. In the meantime, I am still doing at least 100 reps of the prescribed exercises for my knee each day.

Our daughter delayed flying back to Texas for a week because of my wife's appointment today. I am taking her to the airport tomorrow morning. Her family misses her as we will when she leaves. Our son is doing errands around the house since he is a government employee who is home on furlough because of the government shutdown.
 
around all this craziness jay,is the real riches in life,evryday having breakfast with ur wife,your grandkids and your children saying hi pop  or I love you. :-\ i'm getting soft back to hardcore gym talk ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 03, 2013, 10:57:38 AM
Agreed Jay....it looks like things are moving up.....sending good thoughts to your family.

4iu Seros/100 Winstrol/250 EQ/300 Sustanon

Delts/traps

Seated smith press ss one arm cable laterals up to 185 for 5
incline DB front raises ss incline DB front raises thumbs up 3 sets
Drop side laterals 45/35/25/15
Rear delt cables ss pulls to the face  3 sets
DB shrugs seated 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 03, 2013, 11:22:12 AM
Agreed Jay....it looks like things are moving up.....sending good thoughts to your family.

4iu Seros/100 Winstrol/250 EQ/300 Sustanon

Delts/traps

Seated smith press ss one arm cable laterals up to 185 for 5
incline DB front raises ss incline DB front raises thumbs up 3 sets
Drop side laterals 45/35/25/15
Rear delt cables ss pulls to the face  3 sets
DB shrugs seated 4 sets
LIKE UR STYLE...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 03, 2013, 01:46:40 PM
LIKE UR STYLE...

Thanks Brother
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 04, 2013, 12:52:22 PM
Today i worked legs
Leg press 5x10
lunges(Smith machine) 3x8-10
seated leg curls 5x10

calf raises 5x15
crunches 3x max superset with hanging knee raises 3xmax.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 04, 2013, 01:32:49 PM
Hammer strength machines love them. Shame i do not have them at work. Still great workout. not sure about the positions throwing the hips Forward but if it works.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 04, 2013, 02:08:56 PM
Arm day 100mg Winstrol/4iu Serostim

Barbell 21's 3 sets
Concentration curls 3 sets
Hammer curls 3 sets
Machine preacher curls 3 sets
Tricep pushdowns 3 sets
Incline EZ curl extensions 3 sets
Dip machine 3 sets
Incline cable extensions  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 04, 2013, 06:48:00 PM
delts
shoulder press dbells 50/55/60/60 with 45/35 drops 6/8/10 last set..
side lateral machine 70/ 80/90/100
front raise cable x3
bent over rear cable raise rear delt x3
2 set finish wide uprights for side delts

shrugs 225/275/295
rear shrugs x2

forarms weighted rope rolls
reverse curls x2
wrist curls single grip cable x3

calves 6 sets standing calf raise

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 04, 2013, 06:55:11 PM
great workouts guys.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 04, 2013, 08:19:34 PM
This post will probably bore the shit out of you....fair warning.

Today is the best day I've had in over a month. Today marks 4 weeks since the knee surgery. I am officially okay to put weight on my right leg. I celebrated this by mowing my own lawn and taking the puppies to the dog park and walking them twice around the park. I still did the prescribed leg lifts and extensions. Tonight, for the first time in a long time, I feel like the "frozen" tendons at the back of my knee are finally beginning to loosen up. My gait is near normal. I feel like I am suddenly 20 years younger.

I am putting off going to the gym until after my next doctor appointment, which is next Tuesday. There are a couple of reasons for this. First, I don't want to be tempted to do something I probably should not. Second, I will be in Salem, OR at a meeting all day tomorrow.  This leaves Sunday and Monday for the gym before seeing the doctor. Sunday is not a regular gym day for me. So given the logic I have just invented, Monday would be the only official day that I could go to the gym. I am still go since Monday's are arm days and I am positive mine have shrunk in the last month. See how this works?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 05, 2013, 08:34:28 AM
This post will probably bore the shit out of you....fair warning.

Today is the best day I've had in over a month. Today marks 4 weeks since the knee surgery. I am officially okay to put weight on my right leg. I celebrated this by mowing my own lawn and taking the puppies to the dog park and walking them twice around the park. I still did the prescribed leg lifts and extensions. Tonight, for the first time in a long time, I feel like the "frozen" tendons at the back of my knee are finally beginning to loosen up. My gait is near normal. I feel like I am suddenly 20 years younger.

I am putting off going to the gym until after my next doctor appointment, which is next Tuesday. There are a couple of reasons for this. First, I don't want to be tempted to do something I probably should not. Second, I will be in Salem, OR at a meeting all day tomorrow.  This leaves Sunday and Monday for the gym before seeing the doctor. Sunday is not a regular gym day for me. So given the logic I have just invented, Monday would be the only official day that I could go to the gym. I am still go since Monday's are arm days and I am positive mine have shrunk in the last month. See how this works?
Good that you are getting more active. just be careful Jay... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 05, 2013, 10:20:02 AM
This post will probably bore the shit out of you....fair warning.

Today is the best day I've had in over a month. Today marks 4 weeks since the knee surgery. I am officially okay to put weight on my right leg. I celebrated this by mowing my own lawn and taking the puppies to the dog park and walking them twice around the park. I still did the prescribed leg lifts and extensions. Tonight, for the first time in a long time, I feel like the "frozen" tendons at the back of my knee are finally beginning to loosen up. My gait is near normal. I feel like I am suddenly 20 years younger.

I am putting off going to the gym until after my next doctor appointment, which is next Tuesday. There are a couple of reasons for this. First, I don't want to be tempted to do something I probably should not. Second, I will be in Salem, OR at a meeting all day tomorrow.  This leaves Sunday and Monday for the gym before seeing the doctor. Sunday is not a regular gym day for me. So given the logic I have just invented, Monday would be the only official day that I could go to the gym. I am still go since Monday's are arm days and I am positive mine have shrunk in the last month. See how this works?

Sounds smart....one thing we have up on these young kids is patience and knowing when to push it and when not to. Age should bring wisdom. Train smart not hard.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 05, 2013, 04:01:27 PM
did a total pump day upper body in basement on machine ..tommorrow legs ;D

chest press top grip x3
pushups x3 15/20
chest side grip x3 all done 12/15 reps just pump

pulldowns to rear x2 then dumbell row
front pulldowns x2 with upper row pull bar into chest standing in front hits upper back x2

shoulder side raises with uprights and shrug x2

bis tris pushdowns/cable curls x2
dbcurl with kick backs

total time about 30/40 minutes

then pumpkin picking with family full day walking,pictures,donuts ;D, :P...cider...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 05, 2013, 04:33:54 PM
did a total pump day upper body in basement on machine ..tommorrow legs ;D

chest press top grip x3
pushups x3 15/20
chest side grip x3 all done 12/15 reps just pump

pulldowns to rear x2 then dumbell row
front pulldowns x2 with upper row pull bar into chest standing in front hits upper back x2

shoulder side raises with uprights and shrug x2

bis tris pushdowns/cable curls x2
dbcurl with kick backs

total time about 30/40 minutes

then pumpkin picking with family full day walking,pictures,donuts ;D, :P...cider...

Sounds like a nice day my friend.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 05, 2013, 07:28:50 PM
I am so totally not working anything out to day except some frustration, hostility and disappointment at some Getbiggers. Our own Donny was under attack and no one came to his rescue. What the fuck? I thought we were family. Family does not abandon one of ours in their time of need. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Send him to be eaten by the wolves, is it? Well, I for one cannot abide by that.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on October 05, 2013, 08:17:18 PM
I am so totally not working anything out to day except some frustration, hostility, disappointment and frustration at some Getbiggers. Our own Donny was under attack and no one came to his rescue. What the fuck? I thought we were family. Family does not abandon one of ours in there time of need. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Send him to be eaten by the wolves, is it? Well, I for one cannot abide by that. 
This post made my day, LOL!!
Thanks Prime. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 06, 2013, 01:06:35 AM
Jay you do not Need to worry i am not bothered by a bunch of Kids. I have not even given this a second thought.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 06, 2013, 10:16:17 AM
Chest Day....100mg Winstrol/4iu Seros

Incline DB press 50/60/70/80
Incline DB fly 3 sets
Decline cable fly 3 sets
Slow Pause rep Barbell bench 3 sets 185
Some kind of bench machine ss w pec dek 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 06, 2013, 10:23:43 AM
legs brutal

hack squats fair warmup 1 plate /2 plate,,then worked 3/4/5 total
leg press 4 plates 5/6/7
walking lunges 90 lbs bar on shoulder x2
extensions 205/220/235 sets 12

hams
stiff legged dbells 60/70/80
lying leg curls x3 140/150/155
seated leg curl x2 180/195

calves calf raise seated x3
standing raise x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 06, 2013, 11:21:52 AM
i'm maintaining most of my summer condition ab wise usually i'm lean all yr anyway,i've increased calories a little,and being flexible eating wise,i'm still obsessive as u know ;D...since 'ken' has come aboard and shared some of his workouts,i've been adding those drops in on side laterals and they work,past couple yrs i have been increasing shoulders to get in line with my chest and now my delts are much rounder/fuller than ever and even since we started this thread ,the extra all around workout i do in my basement on the all in one machine has helped maintain that little extra ,i train 4 days hard and 1 day on it .4/5 is plenty training wise.

pic to prove point best lighting in house  ;D...kitchen ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 06, 2013, 03:19:29 PM
Look great Jersey Brother!

This was my 56 year old ass last week in a gym in Winston-Salem NC. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2013, 03:24:53 PM
Great haircut.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 06, 2013, 03:41:58 PM
Great haircut.

My wife likes it and she gives me good head so it stays.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 06, 2013, 04:29:38 PM
awesome ken..goes with the build/look...large and in charge  old saying goes ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 06, 2013, 04:40:39 PM
awesome ken..goes with the build/look...large and in charge  old saying goes ;D

Thanks Jay.....on a funny note my Mother said " you look like an ass"
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on October 06, 2013, 04:50:19 PM
Look great Jersey Brother!

This was my 56 year old ass last week in a gym in Winston-Salem NC. 
I'll bite...how much total juice/gh do you use weekly? How long did you train before hopping on?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 06, 2013, 05:06:32 PM
I'll bite...how much total juice/gh do you use weekly? How long did you train before hopping on?

I trained 34 years natty....just decided to hop on gear 2 years ago. Most of the time I just run GH ( Seros) at 4iu ed on workout days and about 875 of pharma test per week. I throw in other stuff here and there but at my age the GH/Test just makes me feel great and the sex is better than 30 years ago. Running some Winny now but that is killing me but it was free. Some EQ also but that is going to BP issues. Going forward I think I will just run GH/Test and either Primo or Var. That's it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 06, 2013, 05:11:18 PM
at least your honest...and it makes you feel/look better as well..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 06, 2013, 05:39:26 PM
at least your honest...and it makes you feel/look better as well..

Totally, my wife knows everything....much easier that way.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on October 06, 2013, 05:39:59 PM
Just wondered. :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2013, 09:11:16 PM
My wife likes it and she gives me good head so it stays.

Well, I can't replicate your haircut without a glued on  toupee. If it would inspire my wife to pleasure me so, I might give it a try.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 07, 2013, 01:15:13 AM
Chest+Back Today...

Parallel Bar Dips 4xmax
push ups 4xmax
flat flys 3x10

chins 3xmax
one arm DB rows 4x10
upright rows 3x10

Ab crunches 3 x max.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 07, 2013, 05:35:21 AM
Well, I can't replicate your haircut without a glued on  toupee. If it would inspire my wife to pleasure me so, I might give it a try.  ;D
;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 07, 2013, 06:28:31 AM
Well, I can't replicate your haircut without a glued on  toupee. If it would inspire my wife to pleasure me so, I might give it a try.  ;D

Something about the way she can grab it and yank ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: BigCyp on October 07, 2013, 07:48:38 AM
Chest+Back Today...

Parallel Bar Dips 4xmax
push ups 4xmax
flat flys 3x10

chins 3xmax
one arm DB rows 4x10
upright rows 3x10

Ab crunches 3 x max.


Keep doing what you're doing, it's obviously working

BOOM!

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=494860.0;attach=537153;image)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 07, 2013, 09:44:34 AM
Keep doing what you're doing, it's obviously working

BOOM!

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=494860.0;attach=537153;image)
Thanks Buddy i will.  8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 07, 2013, 10:15:38 AM
Back day.....100mg Winny/300 Sustanon/250 EQ/4iu Seros

Wide Grip Chins 3X10
Close Grip pulldowns ss w straight arm pulldowns 3 sets
Seated pulley Rows 3 sets
2 arm DB rows 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 08, 2013, 08:21:00 AM
chest
fdb press 60/70/80/85 x5 drop to 65 x6 nice...85's again looonggg way from 25'5 pinned to my l/s shoulder earlier in yr with injury  :-X..
inc dbell x3 60/65/70 10/8/8
flat flyes 40/50/55. 12/10/7
dips weighted 25 round waist 12/12 then last set bwght x20
2 sets hammer mid/lower press 2 plates and 25 per side x12

tris
rope extensions 100/120/125
pushdowns 120/130/140/145
cable standing extensions x3
dips machine seated x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 08, 2013, 11:49:12 AM
chest
fdb press 60/70/80/85 x5 drop to 65 x6 nice...85's again looonggg way from 25'5 pinned to my l/s shoulder earlier in yr with injury  :-X..
inc dbell x3 60/65/70 10/8/8
flat flyes 40/50/55. 12/10/7
dips weighted 25 round waist 12/12 then last set bwght x20
2 sets hammer mid/lower press 2 plates and 25 per side x12

tris
rope extensions 100/120/125
pushdowns 120/130/140/145
cable standing extensions x3
dips machine seated x2

abs

Sweet!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 08, 2013, 11:51:29 AM
Sweet!
BETTER THAN SOUR!LOL,,THANKS KEN..OFF TODAY TRAINED SAT/SUN/MON NEED BREAK..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 08, 2013, 01:34:43 PM
-Saw my orthopedist today. Guess I am doing better then expected. It can take a year for the new formed cartilage to fully develop. The general weakness in my right leg is normal. The quad starts atrophying immediately following surgery. Doing the prescribed exercises helps keep the quad muscle viable, but one still loses strength apparently. Although I can't see it, the doctor says I still have some swelling in the joint.....not that joint....LOL!

Having sciatica complicates my recovery some, since it is hard to tell what is affected by this and what is a result of the knee surgery. I will just have to learn to live with the sciatica because no way do I intend to have my surgery on my spine.

Next Monday, I begin 8 weeks of physical therapy to help with my recovery. Lindsey, the physical therapist I've used in the past for back problems is great. If anyone will get me back in shape, it will be Lindsey. We'll be working on mobility/flexibility and strength along with the therapeutic advantages of ultrasound and massage.

I imagined I'd be back at it (working out) full-bore by now. Perhaps I was overreaching.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 08, 2013, 01:40:02 PM
Thanks Jay.....on a funny note my Mother said " you look like an ass"

What do mothers know? My mom had me dressing like a preppy kid before it was in style. When I was a freshman in high school, she wanted me to wear cords to school when all the other guys were wearing 501's. She thought jeans were for poor folks....much too working class she thought. Back in those days, my hair was always hanging in my eyes. I should be so lucky today. Come to think of it, my mom had a lot of silly ideas but she meant well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 08, 2013, 01:44:12 PM
I trained 34 years natty....just decided to hop on gear 2 years ago. Most of the time I just run GH ( Seros) at 4iu ed on workout days and about 875 of pharma test per week. I throw in other stuff here and there but at my age the GH/Test just makes me feel great and the sex is better than 30 years ago. Running some Winny now but that is killing me but it was free. Some EQ also but that is going to BP issues. Going forward I think I will just run GH/Test and either Primo or Var. That's it.

Do you just play your PED use by ear? How do you know what is healthy and what is too much? What about your liver? Some people's livers are more affected by meds and such then others. I'm laughing at you saying that "Winny" is killing you, but that you are using it because it was free. If I gave you some free arsenic, would you use that too? Just saying.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 08, 2013, 02:54:55 PM
Do you just play your PED use by ear? How do you know what is healthy and what is too much? What about your liver? Some people's livers are more affected by meds and such then others. I'm laughing at you saying that "Winny" is killing you, but that you are using it because it was free. If I gave you some free arsenic, would you use that too? Just saying.

Have blood work done 2X year.....Liver is fine just RBC count up. Only been running gear for 2 years and I am just now figuring out what works for me. You should be laughing at me about the Winny. I should throw it in the damn trash. I don't feel good but it is making me look great. In the end we are all a little OCD about our conditioning. For me now GH/Test/and either Primo or Var is what makes me look good and still feel good. Maybe EQ here and there but I am about done with that too. Arsenic eh? haven't tried that! ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 08, 2013, 02:58:39 PM
Trained arms today with my Bride.....4iu Seros and 100mg Winny (PM no laughing)

Barbell curl 21's  ss with rope pushdowns 3 sets
Arnold concentration curls ss with DB incline extensions 3 sets
Hammer curls ss with overhead cable extensions 3 sets
Machine preachers ss with dip machine 2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 08, 2013, 03:21:52 PM
What do mothers know? My mom had me dressing like a preppy kid before it was in style. When I was a freshman in high school, she wanted me to wear cords to school when all the other guys were wearing 501's. She thought jeans were for poor folks....much to working class she thought. Back in those days, my hair was always hanging in my eyes. I should be so lucky today. Come to think of it, my mom had a lot of silly ideas but she meant well.
Wow how times change but styles always come back around strange isn't it. Usually it takes about 20 years.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 08, 2013, 09:58:28 PM
Totally, my wife knows everything....much easier that way.

I just explained to my wife why I was using HCG to insure my one real testicle didn't become a raisin. I think I totally lost her. I looked over at her and the expression on her face was "whatever" you are a nut job.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 08, 2013, 10:00:31 PM
Keep doing what you're doing, it's obviously working

BOOM!

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=494860.0;attach=537153;image)

Donny is the man you jerkwad.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 09, 2013, 05:52:32 AM
Thanks Jay... :) so today i just did some interval Training and Abs/calfes. Any thoughts on this Routine below...?

Mon+Friday

Bench press 5x5
Overhead press 5x5
Rows(BB) 5x10
BB curls 3x10

Wed

Dips 5x max(Bodyweight)
chins 5xmax(Bodyweight)
Squats 2x20(Breathing squats)
Deadlifts 2x10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 09, 2013, 05:58:05 AM
Thanks Jay... :) so today i just did some interval Training and Abs/calfes. Any thoughts on this Routine below...?

Mon+Friday

Bench press 5x5
Overhead press 5x5
Rows(BB) 5x10
BB curls 3x10

Wed

Dips 5x max(Bodyweight)
chins 5xmax(Bodyweight)
Squats 2x20(Breathing squats)
Deadlifts 2x10

Now that's old school lifting!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 09, 2013, 06:02:54 AM
yes i was Surfing and come across a site with some old Gems. Everyone knows 5x5 and Basics work but i am thinking of doing this for a Change... might dip 2x a week and bench 1x a week and i would do incline press... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 09, 2013, 06:05:37 AM
good solid routines..
http://workout-routines.net/category/lifters/
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 09, 2013, 06:49:29 AM
I love those basic routines. I just can't handle the low rep stuff any more...too many years PL. I stay in the 10-20 range now and have never felt better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 09, 2013, 06:57:52 AM
I love those basic routines. I just can't handle the low rep stuff any more...too many years PL. I stay in the 10-20 range now and have never felt better.
i normally like more reps myself but like working out less. I suppose as you Americanos say Bang for your Bucks. I do not like the Heavy Duty Thing but like the look of this. i have also trained 5 Days and it it works very well. Due to work and other things i find it hard to fit it all in. I like to do cardio and i like a day free to do it. it will be hard not to do flys. laterals as i also believe the muscle should be hit from every angle. still we will see....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 09, 2013, 09:00:23 AM
Leg day......100mg Winny/250m EQ/300mg Sustanon/4iu Seros

Leg Extensions 8 sets 50 reps down to 8 reps
Leg Curls 8 sets 25 reps down to 8 reps
Leg Press 4 sets up to 12 plates

Standing Calf....super slow reps ( 30 sec up/30sec down) 3 sets
Seated Calf....same

Rope pulldown kneeling abs 5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 09, 2013, 09:08:56 AM
Leg day......100mg Winny/250m EQ/300mg Sustanon/4iu Seros

Leg Extensions 8 sets 50 reps down to 8 reps
Leg Curls 8 sets 25 reps down to 8 reps
Leg Press 4 sets up to 12 plates

Standing Calf....super slow reps ( 30 sec up/30sec down) 3 sets
Seated Calf....same

Rope pulldown kneeling abs 5 sets
ON THE LEG PRESS KEN IS THAT 12 PLATES TOTAL MEANING 6 PER SIDE OR IS IT 12 PLATES PER SIDE 24 TOTAL :P...USUALLY I DO TOTAL 14/16 PLATES 7/8 PER SIDE.DEPENDING ON LEG PRESS BACK IN DAY I HIT 10 PLATES PER SIDE AGAIN EACH LEG PRESS IS DIFFERENT..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 09, 2013, 10:39:40 AM
ON THE LEG PRESS KEN IS THAT 12 PLATES TOTAL MEANING 6 PER SIDE OR IS IT 12 PLATES PER SIDE 24 TOTAL :P...USUALLY I DO TOTAL 14/16 PLATES 7/8 PER SIDE.DEPENDING ON LEG PRESS BACK IN DAY I HIT 10 PLATES PER SIDE AGAIN EACH LEG PRESS IS DIFFERENT..

You flatter me that's 6 per side.....the most I have gone is 8 per side.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 09, 2013, 10:51:25 AM
You flatter me that's 6 per side.....the most I have gone is 8 per side.
;D..have to ask and give benefit before doubt,still great lift.leg press is easily biggest ego inflator exercise ,I see guys load it 9/10 plates per side and bend there knees 1/4 inch and do 8 and come off machine limping ,i'm like  ::)...try doing 5 plates per side knees to chest 20 reps then partner goes then u hop back in ,after 3 x around your toast.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 09, 2013, 11:03:19 AM
;D..have to ask and give benefit before doubt,still great lift.leg press is easily biggest ego inflator exercise ,I see guys load it 9/10 plates per side and bend there knees 1/4 inch and do 8 and come off machine limping ,i'm like  ::)...try doing 5 plates per side knees to chest 20 reps then partner goes then u hop back in ,after 3 x around your toast.

Yea I hate that too....I see kids loading up the bench and doing half reps, squats that look like good mornings and rows that look like DLs. Last night during arms some fat teenager was doing half squats with 95 lbs grunting like he was getting fucked by a horse or something. My little wife comes in puts 135 on the bar and does 10 perfect below parallel reps while I stared at the kid. My wife secretly enjoyed it!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 09, 2013, 08:03:03 PM
back
chins x3 sets 12-15
bent over rows 185,205/225 12/10/10
low row machine chest to pad seated 175/190/200
single arm db row.85/90/95
standing pulldown pull bar into waist x3

weighted hypers x3

bi's
seated curl machine x3
db curls 35/40/45
standing barbell curls x4 85/95/95/75 10/10/10/15

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 09, 2013, 09:00:07 PM
back
chins x3 sets 12-15
bent over rows 185,205/225 12/10/10
low row machine chest to pad seated 175/190/200
single arm db row.85/90/95
standing pulldown pull bar into waist x3

weighted hypers x3

bi's
seated curl machine x3
db curls 35/40/45
standing barbell curls x4 85/95/95/75 10/10/10/15

abs

Keep on trucking.

I was depressed all day. Something needs to change and change fast. I cannot go on like this. It sucks.

My day: slept until 11:00 a.m. because there was no real reason to get out of bed. Got up, showered, weighed myself, ate breakfast and then sat down at the computer to write a couple of articles I needed to get in today. Watched my wife sleeping in the living room most of the day and wonder if this was me in the future. my knee was okay, not great. The sciatica was acting up making it difficult for me to walk. Like a cripple, I brought in the empty garbage cans after the trash was picked up, limped down the driveway to pick up the mail, limped down the driveway to get the paper. I could go on but writing this is depressing me even more.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 10, 2013, 01:36:12 AM
Keep on trucking.

I was depressed all day. Something needs to change and change fast. I cannot go on like this. It sucks.

My day: slept until 11:00 a.m. because there was no real reason to get out of bed. Got up, showered, weighed myself, ate breakfast and then sat down at the computer to write a couple of articles I needed to get in today. Watched my wife sleeping in the living room most of the day and wonder if this was me in the future. my knee was okay, not great. The sciatica was acting up making it difficult for me to walk. Like a cripple, I brought in the empty garbage cans after the trash was picked up, limped down the driveway to pick up the mail, limped down the driveway to get the paper. I could go on but writing this is depressing me even more.
maybe you and your wife should just spur of the Moment do something totally new. go see something you always dreamed about as a kid... maybe you do not Need to travel far. I have always wanted to travel to Japan. Train in Yoshinkan Aikido or Daito Ryu Aiki Jutsu. meet a sweet Little Japanese woman introduce me to the secrets of the orient ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 10, 2013, 08:38:52 AM
WEZ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 10, 2013, 08:55:31 AM
WEZ?

Is it bad? I needed a fun pirate name.

Delts/Traps 100mg Winny/4iu Seros

Up and down the rack DB laterals 10/15/20/25/30/35/40 then 40/30/20/10 2X
Smith machine Front Press 95X15 125X10 145X10 drop set 195X6 145X8 95X8
Cable side laterals 2 sets
Incline rear DB raises ss with pulls to the face 3 sets
Front raises w EZ curl ala Jay....3 sets
DB shrugs 4 sets 55/65/75/85
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on October 10, 2013, 09:30:08 AM
WEZ?
Butterbean made a phone call... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 10, 2013, 09:33:08 AM
maybe you and your wife should just spur of the Moment do something totally new. go see something you always dreamed about as a kid... maybe you do not Need to travel far. I have always wanted to travel to Japan. Train in Yoshinkan Aikido or Daito Ryu Aiki Jutsu. meet a sweet Little Japanese woman introduce me to the secrets of the orient ;D

Good idea. Japan seems a little far from where we live though, maybe the coast would be better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 10, 2013, 09:38:40 AM
Good idea. Japan seems a little far from where we live though, maybe the coast would be better.
yes... one day i will make the trip ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 10, 2013, 07:57:21 PM
delts
warm upside raises then did 2x drops 30/25/20/15.. 10 reps per
shoulder db press 50/55/60with drop 45
uprights with premade curl bar..70/80/90
rear delts 'pec deck reverse'
front raise dumbell held like hammer x3

shrugs on lying hammer chest press,3plates/4/4.5/5 per side,sets 20/15/12/12

calves standing calf raise x5

forearms rollups weighted rope/reverse wrist curl behind back cable.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 11, 2013, 09:28:45 AM
Arms 100mg Winstrol/250 EQ/300 Sustanon/4iu Seros

One arm overhead DB extensions 25/30/35/40
Straight bar pushdowns 120/130/140/150
Smith Close Grip Benches 135X20 185X15 225X10 275X8
Reverse Grip pushdowns 2X15X100
Barbell Curls 60/70/80/90
Alternate DB curls 30/35/40
Close grip EZ curl preachers 4X10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 11, 2013, 11:37:27 AM
delts
warm upside raises then did 2x drops 30/25/20/15.. 10 reps per
shoulder db press 50/55/60with drop 45
uprights with premade curl bar..70/80/90
rear delts 'pec deck reverse'
front raise dumbell held like hammer x3

shrugs on lying hammer chest press,3plates/4/4.5/5 per side,sets 20/15/12/12

calves standing calf raise x5

forearms rollups weighted rope/reverse wrist curl behind back cable.
nice steve
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 11, 2013, 11:42:51 AM
I actually hit the gym yesterday. I used the stationary bike with little resistance (low gear) for about 20 minutes. Did some seated Nautilus leg curls and 100 Nautilus leg extensions. I've been doing these at home weight free. On the Nautilus I used 20 lbs. resistance. I felt pretty good after this wimpy workout. I may work some upper body stuff today and ride the stationary bike some again. It feels good just going to the gym and doing something even if it isn't much. I was surprised that I weighed 205 lbs. which is not far off from what I weighed before the knee surgery. Of course, I have been eating light to make up for the lack of exercise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 11, 2013, 11:49:42 AM
GOOD TO SEE DONNY AS 'DONNY'HERE NOT G/O BOARD :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 11, 2013, 12:23:31 PM
GOOD TO SEE DONNY AS 'DONNY'HERE NOT G/O BOARD :)
Steve we are mature men not Kids.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 11, 2013, 12:25:55 PM
I actually hit the gym yesterday. I used the stationary bike with little resistance (low gear) for about 20 minutes. Did some seated Nautilus leg curls and 100 Nautilus leg extensions. I've been doing these at home weight free. On the Nautilus I used 20 lbs. resistance. I felt pretty good after this wimpy workout. I may work some upper body stuff today and ride the stationary bike some again. It feels good just going to the gym and doing something even if it isn't much. I was surprised that I weighed 205 lbs. which is not far off from what I weighed before the knee surgery. Of course, I have been eating light to make up for the lack of exercise.
Itīs great Jay you are a fighter.. Shows character
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 11, 2013, 05:24:28 PM
Itīs great Jay you are a fighter.. Shows character

My wife says I am quite a character. In fact she told me over breakfast at Elmer's restaurant this morning that I am funny and that this is one of the things she loves about me. Love is blind.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 13, 2013, 07:50:03 AM
Sunday morning Chest with little brother ( he is 48)

100mg Winstrol/250mg EQ/300mg Sustanon/4iu Seros

Slow cable crossovers with pause at contraction 3 sets
Dumbell Floor Presses 70/80/90
Hammer wide machine 2 plates/3 plates/3 plates w pauses
Pec Dek 3 sets
Dips 2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 13, 2013, 07:43:15 PM
legs
squats narrow stance 135/225/275/315/365 ..15/12/12/10/10
leg press 4/5/6 plates 12/12/12
walking lunges 80 lb bar on back walking gym floor x2
extensions 205/220/250 12/12/12/

hams
stiff legged dbell 60/70/80
seated leg curls 180/195/210

calves
leg press calf raise x3
seated cal raise x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 14, 2013, 08:19:02 PM
chest
fdb press 55/65/80/80
inc db 60/65/65
cable crossovers x3
hammer mid/lower press x3 2.5 plates per sidesets 10
dips x2 20 reps

tris
close grip bench superset with rope pulldowns x3
seated extension machine x3
reverse pushowns under grip x3
2 sets tri dip seated machine

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 15, 2013, 01:35:11 AM
chest
fdb press 55/65/80/80
inc db 60/65/65
cable crossovers x3
hammer mid/lower press x3 2.5 plates per sidesets 10
dips x2 20 reps

tris
close grip bench superset with rope pulldowns x3
seated extension machine x3
reverse pushowns under grip x3
2 sets tri dip seated machine

abs
great Tri workout...still amazes me after your chest workout. i like the superset with Close grip bench.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 15, 2013, 05:18:22 AM
great Tri workout...still amazes me after your chest workout. i like the superset with Close grip bench.
I LIKE IT ,GET GREAT PUMP AND STILL  QUITE STRONG CONSIDERING.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 15, 2013, 05:47:18 AM
Yesterday back......100mg Winstrol/4iu Seros

Wide grip chins 3X10
Superman Rows 3X10
Undergrip low rows on machine 3x15
2 arm DB rows 3X8
V-bar seated pulley rows 3X10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 15, 2013, 06:12:14 AM
Yesterday back......100mg Winstrol/4iu Seros

Wide grip chins 3X10
Superman Rows 3X10
Undergrip low rows on machine 3x15
2 arm DB rows 3X8
V-bar seated pulley rows 3X10
row,row,row,i like it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 15, 2013, 09:50:30 AM
row,row,row,i like it.
[/quote

This was killer.....I could barely move the seated rows.

Arm Day.....100mg Winstrol/250 EQ/ 300 Sustanon/4iu Seros

100 rep tris
rope pushdown hands apart 20 reps rope pushdown hands together 20 reps reverse ez bar pushdown 20 reps
ez bar pushdown 20 reps overhead rope extension 20 reps....whole thing 2X

ladder pushups  and stretch on smith machine 2 sets

dip machine 4 sets

overhead rope extensions 2 sets

alternate DB curls 30/35/40/45
machine preacher curls 3 sets
sitting on the floor cable curls 3 sets....trouble getting up after ;D
smith machine curls 2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 15, 2013, 10:28:16 AM
Where did booty go she used to post her workouts here. Actually I haven't seen her posting anywhere lately.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 15, 2013, 10:45:03 AM
Where did booty go she used to post her workouts here. Actually I haven't seen her posting anywhere lately.
???...SHE COMES AND GOES...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 15, 2013, 07:46:05 PM
???...SHE COMES AND GOES...

I think she goes when she's not working out much for one reason or another....like I should talk!

I did hit the gym today and followed my PT's instructions. I rode the stationary bike for 15 minutes with minimal resistance and did some stretching exercises. Tomorrow I will ride the stationary bike like today, but I will add leg presses and calf raises using "pussy" weights. My leg is sometimes feeling better, so hopefully I am on the right track here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 16, 2013, 07:31:38 AM
I think she goes when she's not working out much for one reason or another....like I should talk!

I did hit the gym today and followed my PT's instructions. I rode the stationary bike for 15 minutes with minimal resistance and did some stretching exercises. Tomorrow I will ride the stationary bike like today, but I will add leg presses and calf raises using "pussy" weights. My leg is sometimes feeling better, so hopefully I am on the right track here.
8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 16, 2013, 05:01:15 PM
100mg Winny/4iu Seros

Leg/Abs Day

Leg press super slow reps 6 sets
Seated Calf super slow reps 3 sets
Standing calf super slow reps 3 sets
Kneeling rope abs 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 16, 2013, 06:06:12 PM
Old man Jay with beat up knee routine:

Stationary bicycle for 15 minutes with light to moderate resistance.
Calf stretches, holding stretch for 30 seconds with three sets.
Leg press 15 reps X 3 @ 90 lbs. superset with calf leg press calf raises, also 15 X 3 @ 90 lbs.
Seated leg curls 15 X 3 @ 45 lbs. In between sets I grab the lever and force my knee to reach lockout for 30 seconds

Although this probably seems like doing nothing at all. My leg is feeling it somewhat. But on the plus side, each day my leg feels marginally better too.

Tomorrow I will ride the stationary bike and do the stretches, but no exercises until Friday when I have physical therapy again.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 16, 2013, 07:20:26 PM
back attack
chins set 1 12 reps,added 10 lb hanging on chain x12 set 3 2 tens for 11,felt good to add weight
bent over rows 185/210/235, 12/10/10
seated cable rows 180/195/210 ,10/10/10
pulldowns front x3
rope pulldowns into stretch and pull to waist arms locked open at end x3

weighted hypers 45lb plate 3x12

bi's
seated curl machine x4
db curls 35/40/45 sets 10/10/8
hammer concentrations on knee seated on bench 30/35/ 10's
premade curl bar 90lb x2 sets 10 finish

abs
crunches x4 30 reps legs on bench body on floor

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 17, 2013, 10:15:29 AM
Delts and traps day

75mg Winny ( the end) 250 EQ/250 Galenika Test/4iu Seros

behind the back one arm cable side laterals ss with super slow seated press machine 3 sets
front one arm cable side laterals 2 sets
combo front /side DB laterals 2 sets
reverse cable rear delts 3 sets
pec dek rear delt 3 sets
smith machine shrugs ss with front raises w ez curl bar 4 sets
side raises with chains 2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 17, 2013, 10:22:50 AM
Delts and traps day

75mg Winny ( the end) 250 EQ/250 Galenika Test/4iu Seros

behind the back one arm cable side laterals ss with super slow seated press machine 3 sets
front one arm cable side laterals 2 sets
combo front /side DB laterals 2 sets
reverse cable rear delts 3 sets
pec dek rear delt 3 sets
smith machine shrugs ss with front raises w ez curl bar 4 sets
side raises with chains 2 sets
FRONT RAISES EZ BAR CURL BAR UNDERHANDED IS KILLER ON FRONT DELTS  :D..DO THEM OFTEN.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 17, 2013, 10:24:17 AM
FRONT RAISES EZ BAR CURL BAR UNDERHANDED IS KILLER ON FRONT DELTS  :D..DO THEM OFTEN.

Stole it from you my friend!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 17, 2013, 07:36:48 PM
delts
db press 55/60/65/65 w drop 55
side lasteral machine x4
rear delt cable x3
underhanded curl bar front raise x3
2 sets standing fr press premade bar

shrugs superset shrug fr with rear shrug on hammer chest machine 225 x10 with 3 plates,275 x10 3.5 plates,315 x10 with 4 plates per side

forarms rolls with rope weighted and wrist curls cable single grip

calves standing calf raise x5

veiny bi/forarm  ;D shot
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 18, 2013, 05:01:33 AM
delts
db press 55/60/65/65 w drop 55
side lasteral machine x4
rear delt cable x3
underhanded curl bar front raise x3
2 sets standing fr press premade bar

shrugs superset shrug fr with rear shrug on hammer chest machine 225 x10 with 3 plates,275 x10 3.5 plates,315 x10 with 4 plates per side

forarms rolls with rope weighted and wrist curls cable single grip

calves standing calf raise x5

veiny bi/forarm  ;D shot
solid Steve. I will later tonight Train legs. I will do a tri set workout.

Leg extensions 3 sets about 10-15 reps
Squats 3 sets 6-10 reps
Leg curls 3sets of 10-15

nothing fancy just 3 moves but intensive. i will do calfes with Donkey Calf raises my son on my Back. This is an old move but good.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 18, 2013, 12:08:42 PM
looks good Steve....Jersey arm!

speaking of arms.....4iu Seros

barbell curls ss hammer curls 3 sets
Alternate DB curls ss 90 degree preachers 3 sets

smith close grip benches 4 sets up to 285X6 today
French press 3 sets
reverse pushdowns ss regular pushdowns 3 sets
overhead extensions 2 sets

took these two young kids under my wing today. 18 years old and hungry for training info. They soaked it up like a sponge and were very respectful and appreciative. Maybe I shouldn't lose faith just yet! Ken
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 18, 2013, 02:24:27 PM
NICE WORKOUTS 'DUDES' :D...JAY GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK AT IT.KEEP THE FAITH MY MAN.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 18, 2013, 02:30:55 PM
Jay is my Hero...a solid man..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 18, 2013, 05:38:15 PM
Hey thanks guys for the support. Lindsey, my PT put me through some riggers today. She had me bending my knee like it's never ben bent before. The payoff comes after the ultrasound and icing my knee while using the Tens on it. I walked out of the gym with barely a limp today and it is only my second therapy session. One of the hardest exercises was when she put an ankle weight on me, a roll under my knee and then had me lift my lower leg until it was nearly locked out for 15 reps. It seems like nothing and yet it was a real killer.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 20, 2013, 01:12:24 AM
Hey thanks guys for the support. Lindsey, my PT put me through some riggers today. She had me bending my knee like it's never ben bent before. The payoff comes after the ultrasound and icing my knee while using the Tens on it. I walked out of the gym with barely a limp today and it is only my second therapy session. One of the hardest exercises was when she put an ankle weight on me, a roll under my knee and then had me lift my lower leg until it was nearly locked out for 15 reps. It seems like nothing and yet it was a real killer.


you are wellcome jay... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 20, 2013, 07:46:49 AM
It's a beautiful Sunday morning here in Southern New Jersey!

Chest day....4iu Seros/60mg Var

Smith Incline Presses 5 sets up to 225 super slow reps
Hammer Decline Press 3 sets drop set on 3rd 3plates/2plates/1 plate
Cable chest machine thing 3 sets
Cable crossover 21s  high middle low 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 20, 2013, 04:59:46 PM
sun day daughter's 4th birthday party birthday is 22nd tho :)..family, food,pizza/mussells not muscles :P/wine/cofee/cake/football toss,ect..

did legs/church earlier too :o

quads
extensions start 175/295/205/235/250 sets 12
hack squats 3 plates per side/4/5 sets 10
leg press 4 perside /5/6/sets 12/12/10

hams
sldl dbells 60/70/80's
seated leg curl 180/195/210

calves leg press extensions x3/seated calf raise x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 20, 2013, 07:37:51 PM
sun day daughter's 4th birthday party birthday is 22nd tho :)..family, food,pizza/mussells not muscles :P/wine/cofee/cake/football toss,ect..

did legs/church earlier too :o

quads
extensions start 175/295/205/235/250 sets 12
hack squats 3 plates per side/4/5 sets 10
leg press 4 perside /5/6/sets 12/12/10

hams
sldl dbells 60/70/80's
seated leg curl 180/195/210

calves leg press extensions x3/seated calf raise x3

Sounds like a great day Steve.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 20, 2013, 07:40:24 PM
Sounds like a great day Steve.
thanx,ken/wez/wizard/jedi/kbordner/pops/macho man/i'm out of gas...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 20, 2013, 08:57:08 PM
I totally veg'd today. I didn't even do any yard work. My leg feels good. Maybe it needed a break.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 21, 2013, 09:15:25 AM
I trained chest Today and i will now go for a run.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 21, 2013, 09:49:46 AM
thanx,ken/wez/wizard/jedi/kbordner/pops/macho man/i'm out of gas...

LOL

Back day..trained with my wife.....250 Galenika Test E/250 EQ/60mg Var/4iu Seros

reverse grip pulldowns 3 sets
hammer rows 3 sets
life fitness row underhand grip 3 sets
v-grip pulley rows 3 sets
straight arm pulldowns 2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 21, 2013, 08:03:51 PM
chest
fdb press 60,70,80,80 12/10/9/8
inc db 60/65/70 10/8/6
hammer press mid/lower seated 2 plate/2.5/3 per side
cable crossovers x3 12/15 reps
press dumbells palms face in press to chest then up, kept db close together'inner chest'finisher hard to describe

tris
superset dip machine with rope pushdowns x3
extension machine with reverse pulldown x3
cable kickbacks to finish x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 21, 2013, 09:12:13 PM
Therapy day today. Did some time on the balance board, which was interesting. Didn't know my balance was so far off or maybe I am just "off balance," LOL!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 22, 2013, 07:09:10 AM
Therapy day today. Did some time on the balance board, which was interesting. Didn't know my balance was so far off or maybe I am just "off balance," LOL!
STAY BALANCED..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 22, 2013, 07:12:00 AM
Arm Day....60mg Var/4iu Seros

Close grip bench ss barbell curls 3 sets
DB skull crushers ss alternate DB curls 3 sets
cable French press ss hammer curls 3 sets
one arm reverse pushdowns ss double arm cable curls ( like front bicep pose) 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 22, 2013, 07:17:52 AM
Arm Day....60mg Var/4iu Seros

Close grip bench ss barbell curls 3 sets
DB skull crushers ss alternate DB curls 3 sets
cable French press ss hammer curls 3 sets
one arm reverse pushdowns ss double arm cable curls ( like front bicep pose) 3 sets
I GET NOTHING OUT OF THAT MOVEMENT DOUBLE ARM CABLE CURL
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 22, 2013, 09:32:38 AM
back,,,

Supinated chin ups 4xmax
Bent over Barbell rows 5x10
Deadlifts 5x10

crunches + leg raises
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 22, 2013, 09:37:42 AM
COOL WORKOUTS,WE ARE DOWN TO 4 HERE...MR NOBODY POPS IN TOO ,BUT STEADY 4 WE ARE..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 22, 2013, 09:39:51 AM
COOL WORKOUTS,WE ARE DOWN TO 4 HERE...MR NOBODY POPS IN TOO ,BUT STEADY 4 WE ARE..
This is the Elite  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 22, 2013, 10:33:05 AM
I GET NOTHING OUT OF THAT MOVEMENT DOUBLE ARM CABLE CURL

Me neither but I look cool doing it ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 22, 2013, 11:55:23 AM
Me neither but I look cool doing it ;D
:D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 22, 2013, 11:58:29 AM
COOL WORKOUTS,WE ARE DOWN TO 4 HERE...MR NOBODY POPS IN TOO ,BUT STEADY 4 WE ARE..
I put some mulch down to today Fall here.

Then some weights.

Front Squats clean and squat then back up this is one rep continue on for ten they will were you out.
Military
Side laterals
Barbell curls
C-curls

Is booty working out?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 22, 2013, 12:45:58 PM
I put some mulch down to today Fall here.

Then some weights.

Front Squats clean and squat then back up this is one rep continue on for ten they will were you out.
Military
Side laterals
Barbell curls
C-curls

Is booty working out?

:)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 22, 2013, 02:29:51 PM
I put some mulch down to today Fall here.

Then some weights.

Front Squats clean and squat then back up this is one rep continue on for ten they will were you out.
Military
Side laterals
Barbell curls
C-curls

Is booty working out?


-Too soon for mulch here. It has been in the very low 70's during the daytime this week with leaves falling everywhere. As fast as I get them up, they are all over the ground again. We have some pretty vibrant fall colors going on. I'm loving the weather. Normally it is wet this time of year, but not this fall.

No squats for me yet. Using my right leg, I can barely top out on one leg, leg presses with one 35 lb. weight. My leg literally shakes near lockout. When using both legs, I am still at 2 plates because my good leg is covering for the bum one. -Hard to believe I have leg pressed over 1,000 lbs. less than a year ago.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 22, 2013, 06:28:24 PM
-Too soon for mulch here. It has been in the very low 70's during the daytime this week with leaves falling everywhere. As fast as I get them up, they are all over the ground again. We have some pretty vibrant fall colors going on. I'm loving the weather. Normally it is wet this time of year, but not this fall.

No squats for me yet. Using my right leg, I can barely top out on one leg, leg presses with one 35 lb. weight. My leg literally shakes near lockout. When using both legs, I am still at 2 plates because my good leg is covering for the bum one. -Hard to believe I have leg pressed over 1,000 lbs. less than a year ago.
Yea nice leaves here as well. I have a couple of small trees thats all I will leave the neighbors to get their leaves up.  ;D

All you can do is all you can do you will get stronger.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 23, 2013, 01:06:28 PM
Leg/Abs Day.....60mg Var/250mg EQ/300mg Sustanon/4iu Seros

Standing Calves 3X20
Seated Calves 3X20
Front Squats 3X20X135
Leg Extensions 4 sets super slow
Lying Leg curls  4 sets super slow
Kneeling rope crunches ss hanging leg raises 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 23, 2013, 02:07:29 PM
Shoulders

Seated db press 4x10
Standing db side raises 4x10
Bent over raises 4x10
Upright rows two sets wide .two sets close grip 4x10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 23, 2013, 02:12:47 PM
Shoulders

Seated db press 4x10
Standing db side raises 4x10
Bent over raises 4x10
Upright rows two sets wide .two sets close grip 4x10

Man can't do upright rows anymore....miss them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 23, 2013, 02:16:48 PM
Man can't do upright rows anymore....miss them.
I stopped doing them for a while but seem able to do them again
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 23, 2013, 02:24:16 PM
Man can't do upright rows anymore....miss them.
DO THEM ON CABLE AND WITH CURL BAR :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 23, 2013, 02:40:44 PM
DO THEM ON CABLE AND WITH CURL BAR :D

I will try that tomorrow on delt day. Thanks Steve. Donny what changed? Anything or just the passing of time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 24, 2013, 07:35:42 AM
back day ;D
chins x3 last 2 sets weighted couple tens added sets 12,just started adding weight recently so a 45 could be in the mix soon,i like chins bodyweighted but I said to the guy I train with 'lets add some weight'
tbar row chest to pad x3 ..2 plates,2.5/3 plates 12/10/9
low cable row 180/195/210 10/10/10
REVERSE HAMMER PULLDOWNS x3 2 plates/2 plates and 10/2.5 plates .10/10/8
rope pulls stretch pull into waist open rope back x3 good finisher.almost like a standing pullover but in front of you.

weighted hypers x3

bi's
seated curl machine
db curls 35/40/40
seated hammers elboe to knee x3
2 sets premade curl bar 80/90

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 24, 2013, 07:44:45 AM
I will try that tomorrow on delt day. Thanks Steve. Donny what changed? Anything or just the passing of time.
well maybe doing shrugs and laterals helped. I also did lots of rotar cuff Training. a combination really. Maybe i used bad form or too much weight.. I think with time and consistant laterals..side and rear( i believe i did too Little rear delt before just going on the "rows will work them Thing"). I also Deadlift harder now and it could also be a reason..  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 24, 2013, 08:13:09 AM
well maybe doing shrugs and laterals helped. I also did lots of rotar cuff Training. a combination really. Maybe i used bad form or too much weight.. I think with time and consistant laterals..side and rear( i believe i did too Little rear delt before just going on the "rows will work them Thing"). I also Deadlift harder now and it could also be a reason..  ;D

Same here I tore both supraspinatus tendons off and had them re-attached. It's been 7 years but still have issues. I agree rotator cuff work and rear delts.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 24, 2013, 08:24:38 AM
Same here I tore both supraspinatus tendons off and had them re-attached. It's been 7 years but still have issues. I agree rotator cuff work and rear delts.
I think after years of heavy training you have to Train smart and Attention to Detail is more important.  The Shoulder is very complex and delicate. I Train with medium weights and never super heavy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 24, 2013, 08:31:39 AM
I think after years of heavy training you have to Train smart and Attention to Detail is more important.  The Shoulder is very complex and delicate. I Train with medium weights and never super heavy.
SHOULDER'S ARE PROBABLY MOST SUSEPTIBLE SP?TO INJURY DUE TO BEING USED TO DO EVERYTHING.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 24, 2013, 08:41:37 AM
SHOULDER'S ARE PROBABLY MOST SUSEPTIBLE SP?TO INJURY DUE TO BEING USED TO DO EVERYTHING.
100% Steve
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 24, 2013, 11:38:45 AM
Agreed Guys....I never go heavy anymore. On that note delts/traps......
60mg Var/4iu Seros

1-10-1 side laterals used 20s do 1rep then 2 then 3 up to 10 and then back down again....killer.
Smith machine presses with pins set at face level. 3X145x8
cable side laterals from behind 2 sets
Incline DB rear raises 3X40X10
rear cable crossover raises 3 x20
Smith machine shrugs 3X225X10

Tried the upright rows with cable Steve....major pain....left instead.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 25, 2013, 06:51:30 AM
Arms...

supersets...
Close grip bench press 3x6-10 with Close grip undergrip chins 3xmax
Fixed bar tricep extensions 3xmax with Barbell curls 3x6-10
kickbacks 3x10+ with seated dB concentration curls 3x10+

I like this move...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 25, 2013, 10:36:57 AM
Arms
60mg Var/250mg EQ/250 Galenika Test/4iu Seros

wrist curls 3 sets
reverse curls 3 sets
pushdowns ss overhead extensions ss reverse pushdowns 3 sets
lying cable skull crushers 3 sets
dip machine 3 sets

alternate DB curls 3 sets
lying cable curls 3 sets
concentration curls 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 25, 2013, 11:18:56 AM
delts
db press 45/55/60/65 drop back 45
side laterals 25/30/35
rear delt machine x3
front raises dumbell turned up like a hammer x3 30/35/40
2 sets wide uprights finish hits side delts

shrugs on chest press 2 plates per side x20,3x20,4 x12/5x12

forarms rollups weighted and reverse cable wrist curls

calves
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 25, 2013, 11:21:51 AM
solid workouts Brothers  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 25, 2013, 11:41:30 AM
Thanks Donny....Is that a reverse grip bench in your picture? Ken
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 25, 2013, 11:44:16 AM
Thanks Donny....Is that a reverse grip bench in your picture? Ken
well that is Lee Priest in the pic.. overhand grip .(pronated)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 25, 2013, 11:47:09 AM
I see it now....put on my glasses ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 25, 2013, 11:48:43 AM
I see it now....put on my glasses ;D
  :) great exercise,,,lee priest great bodybuilder
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 25, 2013, 11:53:18 AM
  :) great exercise,,,lee priest great bodybuilder

Agreed on both counts!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 25, 2013, 12:03:30 PM
Agreed on both counts!
;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 25, 2013, 10:53:47 PM
Greatings all, long time ago that I posted here.
Here's my back/hams/bicep workout from yesterday.

-One arm pull downs, emphasis on the stretch
-One arm dumbbell rows, emphasis on the contraction
-Weighted hyperextensions, emphasis on the contraction, as a crossover between the lower back & hams.
-Leg curls, emphasis on the contraction
-Incline dumbbell curls with resistance bands
-Concentration curls, emphasis on the contraction
-Cardio, 1 hour walking outdoors

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 26, 2013, 01:56:51 AM
Greatings all, long time ago that I posted here.
Here's my back/hams/bicep workout from yesterday.

-One arm pull downs, emphasis on the stretch
-One arm dumbbell rows, emphasis on the contraction
-Weighted hyperextensions, emphasis on the contraction, as a crossover between the lower back & hams.
-Leg curls, emphasis on the contraction
-Incline dumbbell curls with resistance bands
-Concentration curls, emphasis on the contraction
-Cardio, 1 hour walking outdoors


nice...incline curls i like too... Steve Reeves bicep builder
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 26, 2013, 02:01:55 AM
this is also a good exercise... pic is a bit small ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 26, 2013, 09:23:29 AM
legs and halloween costume shopping :P

quads
extensions x4 up to 235 sets 12
leg press 4 plates per side/5/6/7 12/12/10/10
squats 225/275/315/12/10/10
lunges up stairs 45 each hand up /down/up/down x2

hams
stiff legged dbells 55/65/75
lying leg curl 140/155/170 12/10/8

calves seated calf raise 2 45'sx20/3 plates x20/3.5 plates x15/3.5 plates x12
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 26, 2013, 09:59:11 AM
this is also a good exercise... pic is a bit small ;D


I've only did this version a few times before, so it's a good one for next time, thanks, gives a nice stretch.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 28, 2013, 01:49:11 PM
Sorry the wife and I were away for a few days

Sunday Chest 60mg Var/250 EQ/300 Sustanon/ 4iu Seros

Flat bench 3x20X135 pause reps
Smith Incline 3X15X135 pause reps
Hammer Decline 3X15X 2 plates each side
Life fitness Machine Press 3 sets paused
Cable crossover 21s 7 high 7 med 7 low 2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 28, 2013, 02:11:01 PM
Sorry the wife and I were away for a few days

Sunday Chest 60mg Var/250 EQ/300 Sustanon/ 4iu Seros

Flat bench 3x20X135 pause reps
Smith Incline 3X15X135 pause reps
Hammer Decline 3X15X 2 plates each side
Life fitness Machine Press 3 sets paused
Cable crossover 21s 7 high 7 med 7 low 2 sets
HOW DARE U...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 28, 2013, 07:57:06 PM
chest
fdb press getting stronger close to norm 60/70/80/85/65 12/10/8/6/12
hammer mid/lower press 2 plates per side/2.5/3 plates 12/10/9
inc flyes 45/50/50
superset cablecrossovers with decline feet elevated pushups

tri's
dip machine 190/210/220
rope extensions x3
superset finish close grip with reverse pushdowns x3

abs

new pic eating a tad more /training a little heavier than summer ,still ripped a bit fuller look.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 29, 2013, 02:22:27 AM
Sorry the wife and I were away for a few days

Sunday Chest 60mg Var/250 EQ/300 Sustanon/ 4iu Seros

Flat bench 3x20X135 pause reps
Smith Incline 3X15X135 pause reps
Hammer Decline 3X15X 2 plates each side
Life fitness Machine Press 3 sets paused
Cable crossover 21s 7 high 7 med 7 low 2 sets
Looks great ! ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 29, 2013, 12:34:16 PM
A little off schedule so Back and Bis today

60mg Var/250 EQ/250 Galenika Test/4iu Seros

Wide Grip chins 3X10
Bent Barbell Rows 4X135X20
Seated medium grip pulley rows 3X10 160/180/200
Straight arm pulldowns 3X10
Wide Grip Chins 2X8

Hammer curls 35/40/45 by 10
EZ curl Preachers 25 on each side 3X8
Straight bar pulley curls seated 3 X10
One arm cable curls 2X10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 29, 2013, 12:39:27 PM
A little off schedule so Back and Bis today

60mg Var/250 EQ/250 Galenika Test/4iu Seros

Wide Grip chins 3X10
Bent Barbell Rows 4X135X20
Seated medium grip pulley rows 3X10 160/180/200
Straight arm pulldowns 3X10
Wide Grip Chins 2X8

Hammer curls 35/40/45 by 10
EZ curl Preachers 25 on each side 3X8
Straight bar pulley curls seated 3 X10
One arm cable curls 2X10
GOOD ONE,,GOOD PUMP I BET ON BENT ROWS AND REPS AT 20 ,I USUALLY GO HEAVY ON THOS 245X10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 29, 2013, 12:50:42 PM
chest
fdb press getting stronger close to norm 60/70/80/85/65 12/10/8/6/12
hammer mid/lower press 2 plates per side/2.5/3 plates 12/10/9
inc flyes 45/50/50
superset cablecrossovers with decline feet elevated pushups

tri's
dip machine 190/210/220
rope extensions x3
superset finish close grip with reverse pushdowns x3

abs

new pic eating a tad more /training a little heavier than summer ,still ripped a bit fuller look.

Look fit as usual. Keep up the inspiration.

Just started week three of knee therapy yesterday. I still have a ways to go, but each day my gait gets a little better. I upped the weight on the leg press and calf raises to 3 plates with no problem. I also added 10 lbs. to seated leg curls so I am using 45 lbs. now. Wednesday I do my therapy exercises on my own and I'll add in single leg extensions with low weight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 29, 2013, 12:55:09 PM
Look fit as usual. Keep up the inspiration.

Just started week three of knee therapy yesterday. I still have a ways to go, but each day my gait gets a little better. I upped the weight on the leg press and calf raises to 3 plates with no problem. I also added 10 lbs. to seated leg curls so I am using 45 lbs. now. Wednesday I do my therapy exercises on my own and I'll add in single leg extensions with low weight.
NICE JAY KEEP IT GOING.NEED YOU HERE TRAINING AS MUCH AS GOSSIP AND OPINIONS ENTERTAINER.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 29, 2013, 01:59:21 PM
NICE JAY KEEP IT GOING.NEED YOU HERE TRAINING AS MUCH AS GOSSIP AND OPINIONS ENTERTAINER.
yes ...100%
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 30, 2013, 02:04:02 AM
Yesterday chest + back

Parallel Bar Dips 4xmax (bodyweight)
push ups using push up bars 4x max
Flat DB Flyes 3x10

Sternum chin ups 4xmax (bodyweight)
one arm DB rows 4x10
Close grip upright rows 3x8-10

I then went for a fast 45 min run. I think chest and back work well together, working at a fairly fast pace. I alternated Back and chest exercises superset style. I got all this done in about 1 hour,maybe less..( excluding the run)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 30, 2013, 04:57:24 AM
Yesterday chest + back

Parallel Bar Dips 4xmax (bodyweight)
push ups using push up bars 4x max
Flat DB Flyes 3x10

Sternum chin ups 4xmax (bodyweight)
one arm DB rows 4x10
Close grip upright rows 3x8-10

I then went for a fast 45 min run. I think chest and back work well together, working at a fairly fast pace. I alternated Back and chest exercises superset style. I got all this done in about 1 hour,maybe less..( excluding the run)
WHERE'S YOUR PIC? ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 30, 2013, 08:37:39 AM
GOOD ONE,,GOOD PUMP I BET ON BENT ROWS AND REPS AT 20 ,I USUALLY GO HEAVY ON THOS 245X10

Been trying higher reps lately see what happens...getting nice and sore.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 30, 2013, 09:13:20 AM
Been trying higher reps lately see what happens...getting nice and sore.
8) I LIKE IT,MAYBE TONITE BACK NIGHT..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on October 30, 2013, 03:31:39 PM
Delts/traps/triceps

80mg Var/4iu Seros

Up and down rack lateral raises 10/20/30/40/30/20/10
Seated DB Presses 35/40/45/50X20
Rear delt cable crossovers 3X20
Pulls to the face 3X15
Combination front/side laterals  3X8

100 rep triceps 20 rope pushdown spread at bottom 20 rep rope pushdown straight 20 rep reverse pushdown ez bar
20 rep regular pushdown ez bar 20 rep rope overhead extensions whole thing twice

Dip machine drop sets 2 sets 3 drops each

static bar stretch ala Donny.....these are a bitch. 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 31, 2013, 08:29:38 AM
back took a cue from wez on bent over rows hi reps
started chins wide grip x3 and weighted up to 25 lb plate added 15/12/12
bent overs wez style 135x20 ,185x15,185x15 nice usually go to 245 lighter nice pump
reverse hammer pulldowns sigle arm at a time 2 plates /2 plates added 10/2 plates and 10 and added 5
low cable rows 180/195/210
standing rope stretch and pull in to waist 'standing pullover'

weighted hypers x3

bi's
curls standar 45 lb bar,85x12/95x10/105x10 with a bit swing last 2  ;D
curls db 35/40/40
seated hammer concentration love these started month or so and they work x2
seated machine curls x2

abs
clocked in exzctly 1 hr on this .heavy,good pump,fast paced
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 31, 2013, 09:48:54 AM
Delts/traps/triceps

80mg Var/4iu Seros

Up and down rack lateral raises 10/20/30/40/30/20/10
Seated DB Presses 35/40/45/50X20
Rear delt cable crossovers 3X20
Pulls to the face 3X15
Combination front/side laterals  3X8

100 rep triceps 20 rope pushdown spread at bottom 20 rep rope pushdown straight 20 rep reverse pushdown ez bar
20 rep regular pushdown ez bar 20 rep rope overhead extensions whole thing twice

Dip machine drop sets 2 sets 3 drops each

static bar stretch ala Donny.....these are a bitch. 3 sets
hi hi...sometimes a Bitch is good... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 31, 2013, 10:27:47 AM
was funny last night, a guy came in the Gym from the US. He wanted to do a one off workout so we just let him. He wanted to pay but we just let him Train for free. He was staying in a local Hotel and on a work trip. he was happy to find an English speaking Person.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 31, 2013, 02:08:10 PM
love his motovation
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 31, 2013, 03:37:04 PM
was funny last night, a guy came in the Gym from the US. He wanted to do a one off workout so we just let him. He wanted to pay but we just let him Train for free. He was staying in a local Hotel and on a work trip. he was happy to find an English speaking Person.

Nice move....I'd expect to have to pay. He'll probably remember this an talk up the gym to others.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 31, 2013, 04:06:50 PM
Nice move....I'd expect to have to pay. He'll probably remember this an talk up the gym to others.
I always help English speaking People in the gym.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 31, 2013, 04:12:22 PM
I always help English speaking People in the gym.

I'll remember to speak English when I am next in Germany....oh wait, that's the only language I am fluent in.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 31, 2013, 04:24:29 PM
I'll remember to speak English when I am next in Germany....oh wait, that's the only language I am fluent in.  ;D
always wellcome Jay ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 31, 2013, 08:13:02 PM
delts
front press x4 with last set drop
side lateral machine x4
rear bent cable for rea deltsx3
front raise with curl bar normalgrip/raise x3
wideuprights for side deltsx2

shrugs 225/315/315/315
2 sets x20 45 plate per hand squeeze up hold/stretch

calves 5 x standing calf raises

forarms wrist curl reverse wrist on knee x3
and weighted rope rollups x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 01, 2013, 01:39:10 AM
delts
front press x4 with last set drop
side lateral machine x4
rear bent cable for rea deltsx3
front raise with curl bar normalgrip/raise x3
wideuprights for side deltsx2

shrugs 225/315/315/315
2 sets x20 45 plate per hand squeeze up hold/stretch

calves 5 x standing calf raises

forarms wrist curl reverse wrist on knee x3
and weighted rope rollups x3
solid workout Steve.. said it loads of times but i wish i had your Determination to Train my lower arms. After deadlifts they are pumped up and upright rows do target them but you got the Mike Mentzer look. he once said he just squeezed the Dumbbell and Barbell rods when Training.. :o his lower arms were H U G E
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 01, 2013, 04:52:12 AM
delts
front press x4 with last set drop
side lateral machine x4
rear bent cable for rea deltsx3
front raise with curl bar normalgrip/raise x3
wideuprights for side deltsx2

shrugs 225/315/315/315
2 sets x20 45 plate per hand squeeze up hold/stretch

calves 5 x standing calf raises

forarms wrist curl reverse wrist on knee x3
and weighted rope rollups x3

Love your workouts Steve....will steal freely from them ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 01, 2013, 04:55:16 AM
Steve would make a great mod on here ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 01, 2013, 05:06:35 AM
thanks for the love :-*..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 01, 2013, 05:17:26 AM
thanks for the love :-*..
now steady on...People will talk... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 01, 2013, 05:28:15 AM
now steady on...People will talk... ;D
THIS ISN'T G/O BOARD NOW ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 01, 2013, 10:55:20 AM
Arms and calves
80mg Var/4iu Seros

Smith machine curls 3X25
one arm pushdowns 3X25
Alternate DB curls 3X10
Overhead cable extensions 3X15
Standing concentration curls 3X12
Rope pushdowns w pause 3X12

Standing calves slow reps 5X8
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 01, 2013, 11:00:19 AM
My push workout from yesterday

Chest:
Decline dumbbell presses, emphasis on the stretch
Machine flyes, emphasis on the contraction
Kneeled upward cable flyes, emphasis on the contraction

Triceps:
Seated one arm dumbbell extensions on an incline bench
Dumbbell kick backs with resistance band, emphasis on the contraction

Quads:
Zercher squats
Leg presses, emphasis on the stretch
Single leg extentions, emphasis on the contraction

Cardio:
1 hour walking outdoors
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 01, 2013, 11:02:44 AM
My push workout from yesterday

Chest:
Decline dumbbell presses, emphasis on the stretch
Machine flyes, emphasis on the contraction
Kneeled upward cable flyes, emphasis on the contraction

Triceps:
Seated one arm dumbbell extensions on an incline bench
Dumbbell kick backs with resistance band, emphasis on the contraction

Quads:
Zercher squats
Leg presses, emphasis on the stretch
Single leg extentions, emphasis on the contraction

Cardio:
1 hour walking outdoors
Zercher squats...golden Oldie ...nice
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 01, 2013, 11:06:18 AM
My push workout from yesterday

Chest:
Decline dumbbell presses, emphasis on the stretch
Machine flyes, emphasis on the contraction
Kneeled upward cable flyes, emphasis on the contraction

Triceps:
Seated one arm dumbbell extensions on an incline bench
Dumbbell kick backs with resistance band, emphasis on the contraction

Quads:
Zercher squats
Leg presses, emphasis on the stretch
Single leg extentions, emphasis on the contraction

Cardio:
1 hour walking outdoors
NICE DUDE...I DO LEG PRESSES AND SQUATS AT TIMES AND AT BOTTOM PORTION SIT/STICK HOLD AND THEN PRESS IT FATIGUES THE MUSCLE AND PUMP IS GRAND.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 01, 2013, 11:07:01 AM
Arms and calves
80mg Var/4iu Seros

Smith machine curls 3X25
one arm pushdowns 3X25
Alternate DB curls 3X10
Overhead cable extensions 3X15
Standing concentration curls 3X12
Rope pushdowns w pause 3X12

Standing calves slow reps 5X8

SMITH MACHINE CURLS ???NEVER TRIED...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 01, 2013, 11:08:15 AM
NICE DUDE...I DO LEG PRESSES AND SQUATS AT TIMES AND AT BOTTOM PORTION SIT/STICK HOLD AND THEN PRESS IT FATIGUES THE MUSCLE AND PUMP IS GRAND.
Steve you are hard core...the lunges you do too :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 01, 2013, 11:12:00 AM
My push workout from yesterday

Chest:
Decline dumbbell presses, emphasis on the stretch
Machine flyes, emphasis on the contraction
Kneeled upward cable flyes, emphasis on the contraction

Triceps:
Seated one arm dumbbell extensions on an incline bench
Dumbbell kick backs with resistance band, emphasis on the contraction

Quads:
Zercher squats
Leg presses, emphasis on the stretch
Single leg extentions, emphasis on the contraction

Cardio:
1 hour walking outdoors

Last time I did Zercher squats Reagan was President.....good workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 01, 2013, 11:13:01 AM
SMITH MACHINE CURLS ???NEVER TRIED...

I do them like the old Gironda drag curls straight up the body.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 01, 2013, 11:13:48 AM
Last time I did Zercher squats Reagan was President.....good workout.
maybe a good move for us all to shake it up  ;D nice one DP
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 01, 2013, 11:16:39 AM
buissness is picking up here mr n,d.p.wez,donny,prime,me ,we are cruising..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 01, 2013, 11:17:19 AM
NICE DUDE...I DO LEG PRESSES AND SQUATS AT TIMES AND AT BOTTOM PORTION SIT/STICK HOLD AND THEN PRESS IT FATIGUES THE MUSCLE AND PUMP IS GRAND.

Yeah, I do the same for both exercises, not only for a good stretch, but also to keep my knees in good condition. At the top I keep my knees bent.

Regarding those zercher squats, I did them for the first time after I saw a powerlifter performing them. Since the bar was pushing against my stomach, I was out of breath, even with 135lb, lol.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 01, 2013, 11:17:42 AM
buissness is picking up here mr n,d.p.wez,donny,prime,me ,we are cruising..
best band of Brothers on here  ;) and sister
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 01, 2013, 11:20:13 AM
Last time I did Zercher squats Reagan was President.....good workout.

LOL, I wasn't even lifting things back then!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 01, 2013, 11:21:04 AM
LOL, I wasn't even lifting things back then!
really ...i am old  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 01, 2013, 11:33:56 AM
hard ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 01, 2013, 11:39:50 AM
Yeah, I do the same for both exercises, not only for a good stretch, but also to keep my knees in good condition. At the top I keep my knees bent.

Regarding those zercher squats, I did them for the first time after I saw a powerlifter performing them. Since the bar was pushing against my stomach, I was out of breath, even with 135lb, lol.
yes locking out is overated to an extent,each person has different range motion,pain threshold,lock out ability due to limb length and joint /tendon strenght
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 01, 2013, 03:06:27 PM
Amazing the things I can't do well. Today during physical therapy, I had to balance on one foot with my knee slightly bent while standing on a foam pad. I could barely accomplish this with my left leg and not at all with the right one. Not sure how this heals my knee, but I am not the one calling the shots here. Lindsay's massaging my leg felt good though, even the stretching part.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 01, 2013, 03:30:46 PM
Amazing the things I can't do well. Today during physical therapy, I had to balance on one foot with my knee slightly bent while standing on a foam pad. I could barely accomplish this with my left leg and not at all with the right one. Not sure how this heals my knee, but I am not the one calling the shots here. Lindsay's massaging my leg felt good though, even the stretching part.  ;D
sounds like she is doing a great job ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 01, 2013, 04:04:50 PM
hard ...


I can't stand that Pee Wee Herman, LOL
I used a squat rack for unracking/racking, but next time I will perform them in front of the rack, since I was toughing the horizontal layers (or 2 plates on the floor). My 'hook' was different; elbows out and hands in a prayer position.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 02, 2013, 05:27:41 PM
off heavy day training ,downstairs pump work on all around machine

chest press top grip/side /pushups x3 tri set 10 reps each
behind pulldowns/fr under hand close grip pulls/2 handed dbrows 55's x3  again 10 reps per
side laterals/upright/bent over rear raise/shrugs 55's x2 around
triceps pushdowns/cable curls x3
db curl/hammer/kickbacks x3
spent 30/40 minutes just moving good extra day workout around heavier training

basement pic  ;)lol...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 03, 2013, 04:56:03 AM
This Looks good stuff..load of old School stuff
http://rippeder.com/
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 03, 2013, 08:01:45 AM
Happy Sunday Gentlemen!

80mg Var/4iu Seros

Cable Crossovers with pause squeeze 5 sets
Hammer Incline 4 sets up to 3 plates per side
Hammer Wide Decline 3 sets up to 4 plates per side
Pec Dek 3 sets with pause squeeze


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 03, 2013, 09:02:58 AM
happy sun wez and crew  :D

leg day :P
leg press plate and 3 plates per as warmup then 5 plates x12/6 plates x12/7x10
hack squats 3 platws x10/4 x10/5 x10
walking lunges 50 lb db's x2
leg extensions 205/220/220 x12

hams
dbell stiff legged 60/70/85
seated leg curls 189/195/210

calves leg press 2 plates x20/2.5 x20,3 plates x20,3 plates x20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 03, 2013, 09:06:06 AM
Happy Sunday Gentlemen!

80mg Var/4iu Seros

Cable Crossovers with pause squeeze 5 sets
Hammer Incline 4 sets up to 3 plates per side
Hammer Wide Decline 3 sets up to 4 plates per side
Pec Dek 3 sets with pause squeeze


Like Dorian used to say: "squeezzzzzzzze", good job!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 03, 2013, 02:55:25 PM
Like Dorian used to say: "squeezzzzzzzze", good job!

Thanks...been trying to slow everything up and squeeze and pause. Whole nother ballgame.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 04, 2013, 01:32:30 AM
 Dips 4xmax
 Decline flys 4x10
 Incline DB press 4x10
 Incline flys 4x10

30 mins Interval cardio and abs. enjoyed decline flys today not done then for a while.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 04, 2013, 12:03:06 PM
Back day folks
80mg Var/250 EQ/300 Sustanon/4iu Seros

Wide Grip Chins 4X10
V-grip pulldowns  3X10
Incline DB Rows 3X15
Seated pulley rows with rope 2X10
Straight arm pulldowns 2X15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 04, 2013, 12:05:58 PM
Back day folks
80mg Var/250 EQ/300 Sustanon/4iu Seros

Wide Grip Chins 4X10
V-grip pulldowns  3X10
Incline DB Rows 3X15
Seated pulley rows with rope 2X10
Straight arm pulldowns 2X15
I DO SAME AMOUNT SET 12/15 BIG BODYPART
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 04, 2013, 03:35:01 PM
I DO SAME AMOUNT SET 12/15 BIG BODYPART

Great minds..........
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 04, 2013, 07:45:21 PM
chest
fdb 60/70/80/85 drop to 65
inc dbell..60/65/70
cable crossovers x3
hammer chest press x3 2 plates worked to 3 plates per side 12/10/10
weighted dips x3 last set bodyweight ,used some 10's and and 35 plate

tri's
pushdowns x4 130/140/150/160 set 12/12/10/10
overhead rope extensions x3
reverse pushdowns back to pAd x3
2 sets finish dip machine

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 05, 2013, 08:49:54 AM
erms
80mg Var/4iu Seros

Rope pushdowns ss cable curls 3 sets
Smith close grips ss alternate DB curls  3 sets
French Press ss machine preachers 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 06, 2013, 11:33:01 AM
Legs/Abs day

80mg Var/250 Galenika Test/250 EQ/ 4iu Seros

Rope crunches 5X25
One leg Leg Press 6X10
Leg Ext 3X20
Leg Curls 3X20
Calves on Leg Press 3X25
Seated Calves 3X10 super slow

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 06, 2013, 12:13:22 PM
pre exhaust ...
Leg extensions 3x15 with
seated leg press 3x10

seated leg curls 3x15 with
Romanian Deads 3x10

one legged calf raises 4x15

reverse crunches 3x max
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 06, 2013, 01:52:56 PM
pre exhaust ...
Leg extensions 3x15 with
seated leg press 3x10

seated leg curls 3x15 with
Romanian Deads 3x10

one legged calf raises 4x15

reverse crunches 3x max


Beautiful in it's simplicity.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 06, 2013, 03:24:43 PM
pre exhaust ...
Leg extensions 3x15 with
seated leg press 3x10

seated leg curls 3x15 with
Romanian Deads 3x10

one legged calf raises 4x15

reverse crunches 3x max

Pre exhaustion helped Evan Centopani to bring up his chest. I should give this technique a serious try..
Do you mean the horizontal leg press? Some people like to favor the horizontal version, others the vertical one. I prefer the last one, though my gym has a poor one from Technogym with a small platform.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 06, 2013, 04:22:20 PM
Physical therapy routine:
Leg press, 2 sets of 15 with 4 plates, superset with 2 sets of 15 reps calf raises. Then 2 sets of 15 reps seated leg curls.

15 minutes on the recumbent bicycle and 5 minutes on the elliptical.

Loads of stretches, massage, ultra-sound and tens unit with ice.

This was a two hour session. Leg feels pretty good.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 06, 2013, 05:30:50 PM
Why the physical therapy, Jay? (I don't follow this thread from day to day)
Have you ever tried foam rolls?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 06, 2013, 07:54:08 PM
back
wide grip chins weighted set one bodyweight x15,added 2 tens x12/3 tens x12
tbar row 2 plates x12/2.5 x12/3plates x10/3.5 plates x10
low cable rows x3 180/200/210 x10
reverse hammer pulldown x3 2plates x10/2plates and 10 x10/2 plates and 2 tens x10
finished 2 x 1 arm db rows 85/90's

weighted hypersx3

bi's
barbell curl45 lb bar 65 x12/85x10/105x10
db curls 35/40/40
seated concentration curls hammer grip 30/35
cable rope up curls x2

abs

postworkout bowl choc cheerios /large scoop whey with water :P, ;D
2 slices ezekial bread nutella
apple
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 06, 2013, 08:41:44 PM
Why the physical therapy, Jay? (I don't follow this thread from day to day)
Have you ever tried foam rolls?

I had knee surgery for a torn meniscus on September 6th. While they were in there, the doctor decided to do micro-fracture surgery to help me grow new cushioning to replace the part of the meniscus that was removed. This is more commonly done on younger men and athletes. So I am flattered that my doctor thought it would work for me. Anyway I was not supposed to 'bear weight' on my right knee for about a month. In the year leading up to my having the surgery and then the recovery, I've favored that leg in ways that have had some negative results. The tendons at he back of my knee were affected. I still cannot lock out my knee. The reason for the therapy is to get me back to functioning and walking like a normal person and not like some old guy with a crippled knee. It seems to be working.

During the therapy sessions, my therapist puts a foam roll under my knee and a weight on my ankle. Then I do 2 sets of 15 reps driving the back of my knee into the roll and trying to lock it out while tensing the inner "tear-drop" quad muscle. Apparently this is the muscle which most supports our knees and mine is pretty weak as a result of the injury and the surgery.

Apparently, it takes a full year for micro fracture surgery to completely heal. If this is true, I have a long ways to go before I can hit the dance floor again.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 07, 2013, 05:12:03 AM
I had knee surgery for a torn meniscus on September 6th. While they were in there, the doctor decided to do micro-fracture surgery to help me grow new cushioning to replace the part of the meniscus that was removed. This is more commonly done on younger men and athletes. So I am flattered that my doctor thought it would work for me. Anyway I was not supposed to 'bear weight' on my right knee for about a month. In the year leading up to my having the surgery and then the recovery, I've favored that leg in ways that have had some negative results. The tendons at he back of my knee were affected. I still cannot lock out my knee. The reason for the therapy is to get me back to functioning and walking like a normal person and not like some old guy with a crippled knee. It seems to be working.

During the therapy sessions, my therapist puts a foam roll under my knee and a weight on my ankle. Then I do 2 sets of 15 reps driving the back of my knee into the roll and trying to lock it out while tensing the inner "tear-drop" quad muscle. Apparently this is the muscle which most supports our knees and mine is pretty weak as a result of the injury and the surgery.

Apparently, it takes a full year for micro fracture surgery to completely heal. If this is true, I have a long ways to go before I can hit the dance floor again.
KEEP IT UP JAY...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 07, 2013, 09:01:30 AM
I had knee surgery for a torn meniscus on September 6th. While they were in there, the doctor decided to do micro-fracture surgery to help me grow new cushioning to replace the part of the meniscus that was removed. This is more commonly done on younger men and athletes. So I am flattered that my doctor thought it would work for me. Anyway I was not supposed to 'bear weight' on my right knee for about a month. In the year leading up to my having the surgery and then the recovery, I've favored that leg in ways that have had some negative results. The tendons at he back of my knee were affected. I still cannot lock out my knee. The reason for the therapy is to get me back to functioning and walking like a normal person and not like some old guy with a crippled knee. It seems to be working.

During the therapy sessions, my therapist puts a foam roll under my knee and a weight on my ankle. Then I do 2 sets of 15 reps driving the back of my knee into the roll and trying to lock it out while tensing the inner "tear-drop" quad muscle. Apparently this is the muscle which most supports our knees and mine is pretty weak as a result of the injury and the surgery.

Apparently, it takes a full year for micro fracture surgery to completely heal. If this is true, I have a long ways to go before I can hit the dance floor again.

It's good to hear that the recovery process goes well, but damn, it takes time.
Recently, I had some knee and ankle problems due some interval training sessions in a park (walks alternated with sprints), so I was forced to do this type of cardio in the gym on a stationary bike, not my favorite place for cardio, lol.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 07, 2013, 09:55:04 AM
KEEP IT UP JAY...
best wishes from us all here..never give up  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 07, 2013, 10:31:04 AM
Delts/traps

80mg Var/4iu Seros

Rear delt DB raises up and down the rack 15/25/35/45/30/20/10
Seated DB side raises 5X30X12
Reverse pec dek 3X10
Side laterals with 40 lb of chain 3X10
one arm cable rear delts 3X15
side cable one arm laterals behind the back 3X12
Drop set Smith front presses with 10s 7 on each side down to 1 on each side 7 sets total 8 reps each
Smith machine shrugs 4X225x10 super slow
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 07, 2013, 10:34:52 AM
Delts/traps

80mg Var/4iu Seros

Rear delt DB raises up and down the rack 15/25/35/45/30/20/10
Seated DB side raises 5X30X12
Reverse pec dek 3X10
Side laterals with 40 lb of chain 3X10
one arm cable rear delts 3X15
side cable one arm laterals behind the back 3X12
Drop set Smith front presses with 10s 7 on each side down to 1 on each side 7 sets total 8 reps each
Smith machine shrugs 4X225x10 super slow
nice doing delts tonite might cop a few of these.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 07, 2013, 10:37:38 AM
Delts/traps

80mg Var/4iu Seros

Rear delt DB raises up and down the rack 15/25/35/45/30/20/10
Seated DB side raises 5X30X12
Reverse pec dek 3X10
Side laterals with 40 lb of chain 3X10
one arm cable rear delts 3X15
side cable one arm laterals behind the back 3X12
Drop set Smith front presses with 10s 7 on each side down to 1 on each side 7 sets total 8 reps each
Smith machine shrugs 4X225x10 super slow
I like the rear delt/side delt work before pressing...nice :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 07, 2013, 10:46:10 AM
Thanks guys....I love the trading of ideas. after 36 years of lifting new ideas are great. My shoulders have become my best body part now. I really think it's from all the lateral work. Ken
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 07, 2013, 10:56:11 AM
Thanks guys....I love the trading of ideas. after 36 years of lifting new ideas are great. My shoulders have become my best body part now. I really think it's from all the lateral work. Ken
I AGREE laterals heavy/light/drops/reps I try it all,i get nothing from heavy pressing,my delts have come around to be a good bodypart,i was more or less all chest in that area .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 07, 2013, 11:00:04 AM
Thanks guys....I love the trading of ideas. after 36 years of lifting new ideas are great. My shoulders have become my best body part now. I really think it's from all the lateral work. Ken
I know a few People who swear by hitting rear delts first. Hitting the side delts like you do will really pre exhaust before pressing and will allow less weight by pressing which saves your Joints. your workout i like. I like to sometimes tri set front,side,rear lateral raises and then press. now that burns  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 07, 2013, 11:03:40 AM
I AGREE laterals heavy/light/drops/reps I try it all,i get nothing from heavy pressing,my delts have come around to be a good bodypart,i was more or less all chest in that area .
yes Steve, the shoulders get hit all the time also very hard with chest... for you laterals were just the icing on the Cake..lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 07, 2013, 11:08:54 AM
yes Steve, the shoulders get hit all the time also very hard with chest... for you laterals were just the icing on the Cake..lol
I needed rounder/fuller delts so I attacked them and still trained chest the same but the delts filled in around upper chest area,i still like having good chest its the most powerfull other than quads bodypart,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 07, 2013, 11:29:56 AM
I farted then looked around and I was taller by a foot over a Mexican but he looked tall before I stood up confusion ruling.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 07, 2013, 11:33:23 AM
I farted then looked around and I was taller by a foot over a Mexican but he looked tall before I stood up confusion ruling.
go and Play with the kids
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 07, 2013, 11:37:20 AM
go and Play with the kids
Did you lift today?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 07, 2013, 11:40:51 AM
Did you lift today?
grow up  ???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 07, 2013, 03:05:55 PM
It's good to hear that the recovery process goes well, but damn, it takes time.
Recently, I had some knee and ankle problems due some interval training sessions in a park (walks alternated with sprints), so I was forced to do this type of cardio in the gym on a stationary bike, not my favorite place for cardio, lol.

Yes the cardio in the gym is a lot safer in terms of possible injuries, but it can be such a bore too. I used to really enjoy a good run through the neighborhood. There was a time when I would run to the gym, workout and then run home. I don't do that these days. All it takes is one misstep and you've fucked yourself up with an injury.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 07, 2013, 03:48:29 PM
Yes the cardio in the gym is a lot safer in terms of possible injuries, but it can be such a bore too. I used to really enjoy a good run through the neighborhood. There was a time when I would run to the gym, workout and then run home. I don't do that these days. All it takes is one misstep and you've fucked yourself up with an injury.
Jay get your cardio in..i do it in the Gym and outside. Running outside i enjoy more
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 07, 2013, 07:31:25 PM
 did wez workout delts

started..rear delt machine x4 75/90/105/120,12/12/10/10
side laterals seated 20/25/30/30
uprights smith x3
front raises with curl bar pre made bar 60/70
finished x2 drops loaded 6 tens per side x10/dropped to5 x10.last set 4 per side x10 ,2nd time around 8 reps per ,,,sick pump

shrugs 225x15.275 x12.315 x12/315 x12

forarms
calves 5 sets 12 reps per standing calf raises..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 08, 2013, 03:42:50 AM
Yes the cardio in the gym is a lot safer in terms of possible injuries, but it can be such a bore too. I used to really enjoy a good run through the neighborhood. There was a time when I would run to the gym, workout and then run home. I don't do that these days. All it takes is one misstep and you've fucked yourself up with an injury.

I did those interval sessions right after my weight training, just to burn max fat. But, as a consequence you're more sensitive to injuries. I'm close to my goal of 10% bf (right now prob 11-12%). The last couple of weeks I switched to walking for an hour, prob not as effective as those 18.5 minute HIIT cardio sessions, but I love to walk, esp in this season. It's also a good moment to listen to lectures, motivational talks or spherical music.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 08, 2013, 04:01:51 AM
I did those interval sessions right after my weight training, just to burn max fat. But, as a consequence you're more sensitive to injuries. I'm close to my goal of 10% bf (right now prob 11-12%). The last couple of weeks I switched to walking for an hour, prob not as effective as those 18.5 minute HIIT cardio sessions, but I love to walk, esp in this season. It's also a good moment to listen to lectures, motivational talks or spherical music.
Walking is ok to do now and again...like Steve Reeves wrote in his book you can do it from Young to old. he also spoke about breathing in like a semi yoga Fashion in three stages. Reeves also wrote a book on power Walking and how to distribute weight on your Body. I have "building the classic Physique" from him and in chapter 23 he explains it all very well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 08, 2013, 06:29:20 AM
did wez workout delts

started..rear delt machine x4 75/90/105/120,12/12/10/10
side laterals seated 20/25/30/30
uprights smith x3
front raises with curl bar pre made bar 60/70
finished x2 drops loaded 6 tens per side x10/dropped to5 x10.last set 4 per side x10 ,2nd time around 8 reps per ,,,sick pump

shrugs 225x15.275 x12.315 x12/315 x12

forarms
calves 5 sets 12 reps per standing calf raises..

Whatcha think?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 08, 2013, 06:41:23 AM
Walking is ok to do now and again...like Steve Reeves wrote in his book you can do it from Young to old. he also spoke about breathing in like a semi yoga Fashion in three stages. Reeves also wrote a book on power Walking and how to distribute weight on your Body. I have "building the classic Physique" from him and in chapter 23 he explains it all very well.

Walking was serious business for Reeves, literally and figuratively ;)
He had a good face, no homo

(http://static.cinemagia.ro/img/db/actor/05/56/84/steve-reeves-846293l.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 08, 2013, 06:50:03 AM
My Grandfather walked to work in carpentry everyday around 7 or 8 miles each way and lived to be exactly 100. A great exercise in the contests I have entered thats all the cardio I did just dropped cals and walked it worked.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 08, 2013, 06:55:38 AM
Dorian did the same on an empty stomach, 3% bf isn't that 'fat'...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 08, 2013, 07:20:53 AM
Whatcha think?
good wez,,,i was still going with the drops but as u drop reps get choppy lol,,ok with me pump/stimulation works for me.sore today  ;Dmildly.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 08, 2013, 01:27:28 PM
Arms day
80mg Var/250 EQ/300 Sustanon/4iu Seros

Reverse curls ss barbell curls with drop set (3sets) 3X
One arm cable curls 3 sets
One arm cable pushdowns 3 sets
Close grip bench with 80 lbs of chain on each side 3X135X10
Seated cable curls 3 sets
Rope French presses 3 sets
Super slow preacher curls w ez bar 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 09, 2013, 05:43:46 PM
legs
press warmed up more  sore right knee for a while,plate/2 /3 repped ,,then 4 /5/6 all 15/12 reps.
squat 225x12/275x12/315x12
walking lunges 80 lbs on back x2
extensions 205/225/235/250

sldldbell,,60/70/80
lying extensions 140/155/155

calves leg press x3and seated calf raise x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 10, 2013, 01:33:49 AM
legs
press warmed up more  sore right knee for a while,plate/2 /3 repped ,,then 4 /5/6 all 15/12 reps.
squat 225x12/275x12/315x12
walking lunges 80 lbs on back x2
extensions 205/225/235/250

sldldbell,,60/70/80
lying extensions 140/155/155

calves leg press x3and seated calf raise x3
i like doing calves on the seated leg press too. look after your knee though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 10, 2013, 07:32:45 AM
i like doing calves on the seated leg press too. look after your knee though.
yeah,been wrapping it on heavier sets,it feels good today,few wks ago it took 2-3 days and it was still sore after leg workout,been using glucosomine seems to be helping.its below cap actually right at begginiing botton part,like i slammed it into something kind of pain.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 10, 2013, 08:13:51 AM
Sunday Morning Chest with my younger Brother ( he is only 48).

80mg Var/250 Galenika Test/250 EQ/4iu Seros

Smith machine Inclines 95X20 135X20 185X15 205X12 225X10 drop set 195/175/155/135/115/95
Hammer wide decline 2 plates each side/2+25/ drop set 5-25s each side 4/3/2/1
Cable crossovers 4X15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 11, 2013, 09:24:24 AM
Monday morning Back with my beautiful wife.

80mg Var/4iu Seros

Wide Grip chins ss Bent Barbell Rows 5 sets each
Parallel grip seated pulley rows 3 sets
Straight arm pulldowns. 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 11, 2013, 09:26:36 AM
Monday morning Back with my beautiful wife.

80mg Var/4iu Seros

Wide Grip chins ss Bent Barbell Rows 5 sets each
Parallel grip seated pulley rows 3 sets
Straight arm pulldowns. 3 sets
I do a superset back workout sometimes good stuff....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 12, 2013, 01:24:08 AM
I do a superset back workout sometimes good stuff....
I like to superset too ;D as you know  ;) chest+back work very well. although itīs 2 big muscle Groups i like the intense work and afterwards you feel great ! the plus side is if you miss a shoulder+arm workout itīs not so bad. Dips,push ups ,flys...chin ups,bb rows,upright rows. Itīs all hit well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 12, 2013, 01:42:19 AM
I do a superset back workout sometimes good stuff....

Chins/Bent rows ss = brutal
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 12, 2013, 05:39:28 AM
chest 'did some wez work on inclines'
fdb press 60/70/80/85 ..12/10/8/6
incl'wez'135x20,155x15,165x12,185x8 ..good pump
hammer low press seated x3 2 plates and 25 x12
cable crossovers x3 x12-15
finished x2x20 feet elevated top decline pushups

tri's
triset x3 machine dip/extension machine/pushdowns 10 reps per
2 sets reverse single arm extensions

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 12, 2013, 09:37:13 AM
Arm day
80mg Var/250mg Galenika Test Depo/250 Omega EQ/4iu Seros

rope pushdowns 3 sets
French press ez curl 3 sets
heavy pushdowns with added 25 3 sets with drop set on final set
Lying one arm cross body extensions  2 sets
one arm cable pushdown drop set

Hammer curls 5 sets
one arm cable concentration curls 3 sets drop on final
machine preachers 3 sets
incline cable curls 2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 12, 2013, 11:51:29 AM
I did yesterday Monday...

Parallel bar Dips 4xmax
Push ups with push up bars 4xmax
Flat DB Flyes 3x10

chin ups 4xmax
one arm DB rows 4x10
upright BB rows 3x8-10

Today i went for a fairly hard run for cardio and afterwards Crunches+Rev Crunches,,, ;D
Tomorrow i will do shoulders and arms
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 12, 2013, 12:42:30 PM
GOOD WORKOUTS BRO'S..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 12, 2013, 01:08:11 PM
I love out training young guys. Can't help it ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 12, 2013, 01:50:26 PM
I love out training young guys. Can't help it ;D
me 2...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 12, 2013, 08:21:14 PM
Visited my orthopedic doctor today. In checking how my knee was doing, he commented that I have very strong and muscular hamstrings. And here I always thought they were weak.  ;D

Guess I am doing as well as can be expected considering how long it's been since the surgery. The doctor recommended I start taking Glucosamine and Chondroitin because it helps build fibrous tissue in the joints. I always thought it was just a scam.

Tomorrow begins week 5 of physical therapy. I wonder if I'll be doing squats while standing on that half beach ball thing again. If you've never tried this, you should. It seems physically impossible and yet it isn't.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 12, 2013, 10:53:35 PM
More medical news. Had a small nose operation yesterday, since I suffer from sleep apnea. Everything went fine, no heavy bleedings or pain, other than my low blood glucose level, but I was prepared on that with gummy bears.
I'm not allowed to train for a week. Well, that's fine with me. Then I will walk for an hour each day and use my forearm gripper.

My first and last workout this week:

Chest:
Flat DB flyes
Decline DB press, emphasis in the stretch
Incline DB flyes

Tris:
Seated DB tricep extentions with bands
Stranding DB kick backs with bands

Quads:
Leg extentions
Leg presses
Leg abductors

Forearm extensors:
Reverse DB wrist curls

Cardio:
20 min interval training (HIIT) on an ergometer

BTW, I use my Manus thick grips more and more, love them! (no spam ;) )

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xX9O8GsRVVs/T7wtOaZPtzI/AAAAAAAAArY/HNsqXKuL9_s/s400/Untitled.png)

Happy training!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 13, 2013, 05:26:25 AM
More medical news. Had a small nose operation yesterday, since I suffer from sleep apnea. Everything went fine, no heavy bleedings or pain, other than my low blood glucose level, but I was prepared on that with gummy bears.
I'm not allowed to train for a week. Well, that's fine with me. Then I will walk for an hour each day and use my forearm gripper.

My first and last workout this week:

Chest:
Flat DB flyes
Decline DB press, emphasis in the stretch
Incline DB flyes

Tris:
Seated DB tricep extentions with bands
Stranding DB kick backs with bands

Quads:
Leg extentions
Leg presses
Leg abductors

Forearm extensors:
Reverse DB wrist curls

Cardio:
20 min interval training (HIIT) on an ergometer

BTW, I use my Manus thick grips more and more, love them! (no spam ;) )

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xX9O8GsRVVs/T7wtOaZPtzI/AAAAAAAAArY/HNsqXKuL9_s/s400/Untitled.png)

Happy training!
COOL GRIPS ,,,I never use grips/gloves but sometimes if I grip  hard on a dbell a heavy one 80 and over,my pinky finger blows up and bruises to the knuckle the back side of it and it takes a day for the blueness/purple hue to drop .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 13, 2013, 06:49:36 AM
COOL GRIPS ,,,I never use grips/gloves but sometimes if I grip  hard on a dbell a heavy one 80 and over,my pinky finger blows up and bruises to the knuckle the back side of it and it takes a day for the blueness/purple hue to drop .

Sounds painful! Grabbing 80 pounders with those grips requires an 'iron grip', but you can also try chamois sponges like these.

(http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400/07/07a1deb4-e65b-46d8-8c54-1b55d40716d7_400.jpg)

I can't remember the last time that I wore training gloves, they never felt comfortable.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 13, 2013, 03:47:08 PM
I like the fat gripz for forearm and brachial work . If you are cheap you can buy that crap they wrap pipes with. I bought a pair and lost them already.....don't remember where I left them....old age I guess.

Legs/abs

80mg Var/4iu Seros

Rope pulldown ab crunches 5 sets of 25
Seated calves 5X15
Standing leg curls 3X10
Leg Extensions ( one leg) 3X10
Front squats 3X10X225
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 13, 2013, 07:47:52 PM
back
reverse hammer pulldowns 2plates/2plates and 10/2 plates 2 tens's 12/10/10
tbar chest to pad 2 plates/2.5 /2 and 35 10/10/8
low pully cable row 180/195/210
dbell row's both arms together 60/65/70
rope pulldowns x3

did traps with back this time
chest machine shrugs i use hammer lying chest press for these 3/4/4.5/5 plates 15/12/12/12
2 sets dumbell shrugs dbell at sides 85/90

bi's
curls straight bar 85/95/105
dbell curls 35/40/40
seated curl machine x3
2 sets concentration hammer curls 30/30 ssets 15

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 13, 2013, 09:12:16 PM
I like the fat gripz for forearm and brachial work . If you are cheap you can buy that crap they wrap pipes with. I bought a pair and lost them already.....don't remember where I left them....old age I guess.

Legs/abs

80mg Var/4iu Seros

Rope pulldown ab crunches 5 sets of 25
Seated calves 5X15
Standing leg curls 3X10
Leg Extensions ( one leg) 3X10
Front squats 3X10X225

Front squats after 3 leg movements, nice example of pre exhaustion, damn!

Yeah, pipe isolation is much cheaper, but it will prob lose it shape after a -short- while, esp with heavy loads. These grips are made of dense silicone. The Manus grips are much cheaper than Fat gripz, at least here in Europe, 20 vs 40 Euros.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 14, 2013, 02:22:38 AM
Yesterday was Shoulders +arms

Side laterals 4x10-12 Superset with Barbell press 4x10
rear delt machine 4x10-12

Dumbbell Incline curls 5x10 Superset with
Incline bench ez bar French press 5x10

Incline curls hit my Biceps nice ...a Steve Reeves exercise ;)
The only Thing i use now and again when i do parallel bar Dips is These 2 pads.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 14, 2013, 06:18:00 AM
Yesterday was Shoulders +arms

Side laterals 4x10-12 Superset with Barbell press 4x10
rear delt machine 4x10-12

Dumbbell Incline curls 5x10 Superset with
Incline bench ez bar French press 5x10

Incline curls hit my Biceps nice ...a Steve Reeves exercise ;)
The only Thing i use now and again when i do parallel bar Dips is These 2 pads.


That's a solid no-bull schedule, nice! I love incline curls as well. I do them with a short pause at the bottom, arms fully stretched. As a result, I can't lift much, but I feel my tendons for at least 2 days. To me, this feedback is a sign that I need to work on this.

The problem with most modern dipping bars/machines is that they have thin grips. Pads/thick bar grips are great for this, esp for those with large hands.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 14, 2013, 02:41:56 PM
Agreed DP on the cheap version gripz.....You have to be real cheap to go the hardware store route....Anybody try Versa gripps yet....seem pretty interesting.

Delts/Traps

80mg Var/250 Galenika Test/250 EQ/4iu Seros

Reverse pec dek 5 sets
Incline rear DB laterals 3 sets
up and down the rack side laterals 20/25/30/35/40/30/20/10
side laterals with one chain 3X10
seated DB press ss smith upright rows 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on November 15, 2013, 05:58:24 AM
Just get a fat bar ???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 15, 2013, 06:11:01 AM
Just get a fat bar ???

If I only had my own gym... The average European gym isn't your average Gold's/Powerhouse/EliteFTS. This means no Hammer Strength, no power racks, no hex bars, no foam rollers, no squat bars, no thick bars and the list goes on...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 15, 2013, 06:12:20 AM
Just get a fat bar ???

They are sweet...had one in my last gym. Great for reverse curls.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 15, 2013, 07:08:39 AM
Legs... :)

pre exhaust

leg extensions 4x15 with
seated leg press 4x10

seated leg curls 4x15 with
hyperextensions 45% 4x15(i found this very good instead of Romanian Deads and safer)

Standing Smith machine calf raises 5x15-20

4x max hanging knee raises from straps. Interval Training 30 mins on bike
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 15, 2013, 12:01:37 PM
Insane arm workout from Kali>
80mg Var/4iu Seros

One arm cable tri extension 100reps
Ez bar pushdown 100 reps
Rope pushdown 100 reps
Reverse EZ bar pushdown 100 reps
DB kickbacks 30X20 25X20 20X20 15X20 10X20
Total 500 reps

Cable curls 100 reps
Cable preacher curls 100 reps
Hammer curls 100 reps
Barbell curls 100 reps
Total 400 reps

whole thing took 50 minutes.

Serious pump.

Couldn't do anymore.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 15, 2013, 12:45:31 PM
What would happen if you measure your arms, train "Kali-style" for a month and then measure your arms again?...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 15, 2013, 12:49:38 PM
What would happen if you measure your arms, train "Kali-style" for a month and then measure your arms again?...
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Nothing.....won't do again.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 15, 2013, 01:32:35 PM
What would happen if you measure your arms, train "Kali-style" for a month and then measure your arms again?...
[/quote

Nothing.....won't do again.

I remember that I once did a legs-back-chest (and repeat 2 two times) circuit of 50 reps, the pump/pain was insane, lol
It might me a good shocker every now and then.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 15, 2013, 01:35:12 PM
what weight were you using Wez ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 15, 2013, 03:24:48 PM
I used 30 on the one arm cable extensions.
60 on the ez bar pushdowns
50 on thye rope pushdowns
50 on the reverse ez pushdowns
30/25/20/15/10 on the DB kickbacks 20 each

I used 50 on the cable curl
40 on the cable preacher curl
35 on the DB hammer curls ( 5X20 with 10 sec pause)
40 on the BB curl

Ken
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 15, 2013, 05:34:51 PM
Just completed week five of eight weeks of physical therapy. The knee is getting a little better every day. I can actually see the beginning of the inner teardrop on my right leg. Maybe sometime in the next decade my legs will rock like Steve's do.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 15, 2013, 09:39:38 PM
Just completed week five of eight weeks of physical therapy. The knee is getting a little better every day. I can actually see the beginning of the inner teardrop on my right leg. Maybe sometime in the next decade my legs will rock like Steve's do.  ;D
nice jay  :)..

delt day
side lateral machine x4
front press x4 last set 3 set drop
rear delts bent seated dumbell raise x3
fr raises with premade curl bar x3
2 sets wide uprights finish

did shrugs with back day earlier something different

calves standing calf raises x4 did 8 reps each foot position

forarms reverse wrist curls cablr arms on knees x3
reverse wrist curl bar behind back x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 16, 2013, 05:54:54 PM
legs today..phew..
leg press usual start latley..4/5/6/7 45's per side ranges reps 12/10
squat shoulder width stance 225/275/315/365 12/12/10/10
lunges up stairs up/down 2x repeated 2x
leg extensions x3 sets 12/15 reps

hams
lying leg curls x3 140/155/165 12/10/10
seated leg curls 180/195/210 10/10/8

calves leg press x3 sets 20 :o
seated calf raise x3 till failure
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 16, 2013, 06:48:42 PM
legs today..phew..
leg press usual start latley..4/5/6/7 45's per side ranges reps 12/10
squat shoulder width stance 225/275/315/365 12/12/10/10
lunges up stairs up/down 2x repeated 2x
leg extensions x3 sets 12/15 reps

hams
lying leg curls x3 140/155/165 12/10/10
seated leg curls 180/195/210 10/10/8

calves leg press x3 sets 20 :o
seated calf raise x3 till failure

Damn Steve...looks killer!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 16, 2013, 07:27:53 PM
Damn Steve...looks killer!
i try.i try,,seriously great workout killer pump..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 16, 2013, 08:57:18 PM
legs today..phew..
leg press usual start latley..4/5/6/7 45's per side ranges reps 12/10
squat shoulder width stance 225/275/315/365 12/12/10/10
lunges up stairs up/down 2x repeated 2x
leg extensions x3 sets 12/15 reps

hams
lying leg curls x3 140/155/165 12/10/10
seated leg curls 180/195/210 10/10/8

calves leg press x3 sets 20 :o
seated calf raise x3 till failure

How do you feel about lunging on stairs verses lunging on a ramp? There is a long ramp inside my gym which is what most people do their lunges on. I've not seen anyone do them on the steps which are about a third of a flight or about 5 steps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 16, 2013, 09:25:39 PM
How do you feel about lunging on stairs verses lunging on a ramp? There is a long ramp inside my gym which is what most people do their lunges on. I've not seen anyone do them on the steps which are about a third of a flight or about 5 steps.
i do both and also walk gym floor doing them,step portion up are 20 steps but skip evry other 1st plants above rear one step behind its about 12 steps then down full 20 jog down them then back up ,i do it 2 full times 2x
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 17, 2013, 12:06:07 PM
Sunday chest day with my Brother
80mg Var/4iu Seros

Flat bench smith machine 135X25 185X15 225X10 dropset 245/195/145/95
Incline smith machine 135X15 185X10 drop set 165/145/125/105/85/65
Cable Crossovers 100 reps
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 17, 2013, 12:29:16 PM
My "wake-up training" after almost a week of no training (nose operation last Tuesday because of my sleep apnea),

Cardio: 18.5 minute HIIT session (hign intensity interval training) on a stationary bike.
Forearms: DB wrist curls and reverse curls.
Foam rolling.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 17, 2013, 12:58:04 PM
My "wake-up training" after almost a week of no training (nose operation last Tuesday because of my sleep apnea),

Cardio: 18.5 minute HIIT session (hign intensity interval training) on a stationary bike.
Forearms: DB wrist curls and reverse curls.
Foam rolling.

I love training forearms! After all that's what's hanging out of your shirt!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 17, 2013, 01:01:26 PM
How do you feel about lunging on stairs verses lunging on a ramp? There is a long ramp inside my gym which is what most people do their lunges on. I've not seen anyone do them on the steps which are about a third of a flight or about 5 steps.
Lunges are more difficult going downhill.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 17, 2013, 01:09:59 PM
I love training forearms! After all that's what's hanging out of your shirt!

Yeah, it's an important part to train and not just because thick & veiny forearms separates you from the gym rats, but also for a solid grip which isn't only a weak link while training back.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 17, 2013, 01:14:21 PM
Yeah, it's an important part to train and not just because thick & veiny forearms separates you from the gym rats, but also for a solid grip which isn't only a weak link while training back.


Absolutely...I quit using straps too. That isn't always easy with my numb GH fingers ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 17, 2013, 10:52:27 PM
Lunges are more difficult going downhill.

When I am up to it, I will do lunges on the hill in front of my house like I've done in he past. From the post box to the corner is a little over 100 feet. I suspect my neighbors get a kick out of seeing me doing this.  I start at the high end and lung down to the corner and then back up the hill. It is a great workout. I enjoy incorporating workouts into my daily routine. I do these when I go out to get the paper in the morning.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 17, 2013, 10:59:03 PM
I gave my leg a rest this weekend. I did none of my usual leg raises, leg extensions and kickbacks, most of which I have been doing on a daily biases since my surgery. My gait is almost normal. Almost no more gimp walking like some old cripple. I am feeling really inspired. Not that it is exercise, but all I did was tour some open houses, climbing stair as if they weren't a problem. Hooray!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 18, 2013, 12:54:01 AM
well last night i had to work then i did 30 mins Interval on a cross Trainer machine. Finished of with some Ab work. Today i will blast my chest and watch it rise liked baked bread in the mirror... ;D ;) Of course i might do chest +back i go by feel. Dips will be on my Programme.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 18, 2013, 09:29:42 AM
Chest+back

Dips 4xmax
push up bar push ups 4xmax
flat Db flyes 3x10

Chins 4xmax
BB rows 4x8-10
upright rows 3x10

full sit ups 2x50
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 18, 2013, 09:46:12 AM
Back day....wife and I.

My wife did 95lb squat for 5X20 for 100 reps and puked....that's my girl.

Reverse grip pulldowns 3 sets
Straight arm pulldowns 3 sets
Incline DB rows 3 sets
Wide grip pulldowns 3 sets
V-grip pulldowns 3 sets
Seated pulley rows 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 18, 2013, 10:33:03 AM
Back day....wife and I.

My wife did 95lb squat for 5X20 for 100 reps and puked....that's my girl.

Reverse grip pulldowns 3 sets
Straight arm pulldowns 3 sets
Incline DB rows 3 sets
Wide grip pulldowns 3 sets
V-grip pulldowns 3 sets
Seated pulley rows 3 sets
nice...i'm rubbing off on u a little.. sets/exercise movements ,back is a lot of volume.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 18, 2013, 11:53:45 AM
nice...i'm rubbing off on u a little.. sets/exercise movements ,back is a lot of volume.

You are Steve....I love your routines. Stealing freely ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 18, 2013, 07:28:52 PM
chest
fdb press 60/75/80/85/ 12/10/9/6
inc press 165/185/...then195/175/155/135 drop wez style..
inc flyes 40/50/55-8 then 40 drop
dips weighted x2 25 lb plate hanging
hammer lying press x2 x12

tris
pushdowns x4
rope extensions over head x3
close grip bench x3
db extensions lying x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 19, 2013, 06:52:33 AM
chest
fdb press 60/75/80/85/ 12/10/9/6
inc press 165/185/...then195/175/155/135 drop wez style..
inc flyes 40/50/55-8 then 40 drop
dips weighted x2 25 lb plate hanging
hammer lying press x2 x12

tris
pushdowns x4
rope extensions over head x3
close grip bench x3
db extensions lying x2

abs

In most gyms, Monday seems "National Chest Day"...

Chest:
Decline DB press, emphasis on the stretch
Incline DB upward flye with bands, emphasis on the contraction
DB pull-over, emphasis on the stretch

Triceps:
Incline DB extension with both arms, emphasis on the stretch
DB kick-backs with bands, emphasis on the contraction

Quads:
Squats with bands, emphasis on the stretch
Single leg extensions, emphasis on the contraction
Adductor machine, emphasis on the contraction

Fore arms:
Reverse cable wrist curls, thx Njflex for the inspiration ;)

Cardio:
1 hour walking outdoors
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 19, 2013, 06:55:33 AM
In most gyms, Monday seems "National Chest Day"...

Chest:
Decline DB press, emphasis on the stretch
Incline DB upward flye with bands, emphasis on the contraction
DB pull-over, emphasis on the stretch

Triceps:
Incline DB extension with both arms, emphasis on the stretch
DB kick-backs with bands, emphasis on the contraction

Quads:
Squats with bands, emphasis on the stretch
Single leg extensions, emphasis on the contraction
Adductor machine, emphasis on the contraction

Fore arms:
Reverse cable wrist curls, thx Njflex for the inspiration ;)

Cardio:
1 hour walking outdoors

Man, I haven't done pullovers in a while. Time to throw them back in.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 19, 2013, 07:09:11 AM
Man, I haven't done pullovers in a while. Time to throw them back in.

I've reincluded this exercise a few weeks back. The resistance comes from a different direction which makes it a unique movement. I pause for 1-2 secs at the bottom and stop once the DB is above my forehead, just to keep tension on the chest. I believe that a slow/moderate rep speed is best.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 19, 2013, 08:03:50 AM
D.P. THANKS AND YEAH REVERSE WRIST CURLS ARE GREAT,,,ME /WEZ ITS FUN TO BORROW SOME STUFF WE DO KNOCK AROUND IDEAS,DONNY HAS SOME GREAT ROUTINES/EXERCISES.ITS FUN HERE :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 19, 2013, 11:25:27 AM
Arm Day
4iu Seros/60mg Var

Close Grip hammer incline 4 sets
rope cable French press 4 sets
one arm extensions on the pulldown side of the hammer incline ( like a JM press) 4 sets
one arm cable extensions 3 sets

Barbell smith machine curls 3 sets
2 arm cable curls ( like double bi pose) 3 sets
hammer curls 3 sets
machine preacher curls 2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 20, 2013, 09:34:27 AM
Arm Day
4iu Seros/60mg Var

Close Grip hammer incline 4 sets
rope cable French press 4 sets
one arm extensions on the pulldown side of the hammer incline ( like a JM press) 4 sets
one arm cable extensions 3 sets

Barbell smith machine curls 3 sets
2 arm cable curls ( like double bi pose) 3 sets
hammer curls 3 sets
machine preacher curls 2 sets
never done curls on a Smith machine.. is that not a bit awkward??
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 20, 2013, 09:34:36 AM
Legs/Abs

4iu Seros/60mg Var/375mg EQ

Rope pulldown abs 5 sets
Standing calves 3 sets
Seated calves 3 sets

Leg Press warm up then drop sets 6 plates each side down to 1 plate 100 reps
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 20, 2013, 09:35:48 AM
never done curls on a Smith machine.. is that not a bit awkward??

I drag it right up the front like the old Gironda drag curls..it forces the elbows back....weird but effective.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 20, 2013, 09:41:10 AM
I drag it right up the front like the old Gironda drag curls..it forces the elbows back....weird but effective.
ah ...yes Drag curls....nice move ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 20, 2013, 09:44:20 AM
I worked shoulders+ arms today

Barbell press 4x8-10
side laterals 4x10-12
Bent over laterals 4x10-12 (resting forehead on an incline bench)

BB strict curls 5x10 Superset with
Incline ez bar extensions 5x10

reverse crunches 3x max
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 20, 2013, 10:40:40 AM
I worked shoulders+ arms today

Barbell press 4x8-10
side laterals 4x10-12
Bent over laterals 4x10-12 (resting forehead on an incline bench)

BB strict curls 5x10 Superset with
Incline ez bar extensions 5x10

reverse crunches 3x max

Your workouts make me happy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 20, 2013, 10:41:47 AM
Your workouts make me happy.
;D,, 8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 20, 2013, 10:43:17 AM
Your workouts make me happy.
really why ? very simple i know.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 20, 2013, 10:44:44 AM
really why ? very simple i know.

There is beauty in pure function. Sometimes simple is just better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 20, 2013, 10:48:04 AM
There is beauty in pure function. Sometimes simple is just better.
I just get the Job done. 5 strict sets of curls work my biceps enough. When i work back i do chins supinated and Sternum chins. These are the best Bicep builders i know.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 20, 2013, 10:52:43 AM
EVERYONE HERE PUTS IN THE 'WORK'FOR RESULTS WHETHER IT'S STRENGHT,FEELING OF WELL BEING,VANITY 'I WILL TAKE THAT ONE LOL...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 20, 2013, 10:54:35 AM
EVERYONE HERE PUTS IN THE 'WORK'FOR RESULTS WHETHER IT'S STRENGHT,FEELING OF WELL BEING,VANITY 'I WILL TAKE THAT ONE LOL...
The Mature thread is rolling  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 20, 2013, 11:01:15 AM
Old Guys Rule!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 20, 2013, 11:31:01 AM
Old Guys Rule!

I'm still a puppy here (41)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 20, 2013, 11:34:39 AM
I'm still a puppy here (41)
ME TOO 45..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 20, 2013, 11:36:44 AM
I'm still a puppy here (41)

Damn I have a daughter that's 36......ahh...who cares....hormone keep me young.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 20, 2013, 11:57:53 AM
well i feel great at 47. never felt better. Keep my flexibility, cardio, red and White muscle fibres twitching ;) ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 20, 2013, 12:45:38 PM
Damn I have a daughter that's 36......ahh...who cares....hormone keep me young.

Is she single? Ah, never mind ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 20, 2013, 01:02:38 PM
Is she single? Ah, never mind ;D
36 is a good Age.. mature
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 20, 2013, 01:09:54 PM
Is she single? Ah, never mind ;D

NO.......married for 13 years and I have a 12 year old Grandson and I knew someone would say thyat ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 20, 2013, 01:11:34 PM
NO.......married for 13 years and I have a 12 year old Grandson and I knew someone would say thyat ;D
8)...WEZ IS ALLRIGHT,I NEED TO GET DOWN BY U FOR A WORKOUT NEXT SUMMER ,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 20, 2013, 01:23:18 PM
8)...WEZ IS ALLRIGHT,I NEED TO GET DOWN BY U FOR A WORKOUT NEXT SUMMER ,,,

Let's do it!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 20, 2013, 01:24:57 PM
Let's do it!
COOL,WE WILL..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 20, 2013, 01:26:33 PM
Let's do it!
I think you and Steve would get on well as workout Partners.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 20, 2013, 01:31:21 PM
NO.......married for 13 years and I have a 12 year old Grandson and I knew someone would say thyat ;D

Let's just say "I've been there, got the tshirt", never again, call it a learning experience  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 20, 2013, 01:32:39 PM
36 is a good Age.. mature

26 as well  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 20, 2013, 01:40:18 PM
I think you and Steve would get on well as workout Partners.

Me too....I hope he doesn't bury me though!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 20, 2013, 01:43:51 PM
Me too....I hope he doesn't bury me though!
WITH A SHOVEL MAYBE..I SEE YOUR WEIGHTS WE MOVE THE SAME ON MOST OR SUPERSET SAME KIND SETS/#'S
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 20, 2013, 02:11:08 PM
26 as well  ;)
sweet ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 20, 2013, 02:14:08 PM
Me too....I hope he doesn't bury me though!
no i think you both are good...donīt wanna do a leg workout with Steve though ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 20, 2013, 02:32:54 PM
no i think you both are good...donīt wanna do a leg workout with Steve though ;D
either do I  ;D.. :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 20, 2013, 02:39:12 PM
either do I  ;D.. :o
lunges like you do are great. what do you think about the theory that a Close stance is more quads or wide more glutes? i will go with wide for glutes
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 20, 2013, 07:41:56 PM
lunges like you do are great. what do you think about the theory that a Close stance is more quads or wide more glutes? i will go with wide for glutes
squat or lunges,,or both ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 20, 2013, 08:06:36 PM
back/bi/abs

back
chin ups x3 set 1 x15.2 and 3 weighted 25 lb plate x12
hammer reverse pulldown x3 2 plates per side and 10/5 added set 2 and 3
tbar row front loaded 3 plates x3 sets 10
lowpully cablerow 180/190/200
front pulldown smallbar x3

weighted hypers x3

bi's
curls straight bar 45 lb bar/85/95/105
db curls 35/40/40 alternate
seated concetration x2 hammer version 30/35
seated curlx3  machine

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 21, 2013, 08:33:36 AM
delts/traps....going to change up the workouts starting Sunday...time to stir it up.
60mg Var/4iu Seros

Rear delt cable crossovers 4 sets last set drop set
Reverse pec dek 5 sets last set drop set
Behind the back side laterals with cable 2 sets
Front side lateral cables 2 sets
Up and down the rack side laterals 15/25/35/45/35/25/15/5
Side lateral with a 20lb chain on each side 2 sets
Machine Press 100 reps
DB shrugs ss with rotator cuff work 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 21, 2013, 09:23:10 AM
delts/traps....going to change up the workouts starting Sunday...time to stir it up.
60mg Var/4iu Seros

Rear delt cable crossovers 4 sets last set drop set
Reverse pec dek 5 sets last set drop set
Behind the back side laterals with cable 2 sets
Front side lateral cables 2 sets
Up and down the rack side laterals 15/25/35/45/35/25/15/5
Side lateral with a 20lb chain on each side 2 sets
Machine Press 100 reps
DB shrugs ss with rotator cuff work 4 sets
NICE I'M DOING DELTS 2 NITE,I DO SAME EXCERCISES AND ORDER  :P...I NEED TO RUN THE RACK ON SIDES AGAIN BEEN FEW WKS,I'VE BEEN DOING THE SIDE DELT MACHINE
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 21, 2013, 01:25:49 PM
NICE I'M DOING DELTS 2 NITE,I DO SAME EXCERCISES AND ORDER  :P...I NEED TO RUN THE RACK ON SIDES AGAIN BEEN FEW WKS,I'VE BEEN DOING THE SIDE DELT MACHINE

My shoulder is sore so I did a lot more laterals and less pressing today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 21, 2013, 11:00:10 PM
Legs today...

pre exhaust...

leg extensions 3-4 x 10-15 with
seated leg press 3-4x10

seated leg curls  3-4x10-15 with
Romanian deads 3-4x10
calf raise machine 4-5x15-20

abs and 30 mins Interval cardio on the cross trainer
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 22, 2013, 07:06:21 AM
GOOD DONNY...

DELTS
WEZ'STYLE'SIDE LATERALS 15/20/25/30/..35/25/20/15 DROP AWESOME..
FR PRESS X3 135/155/165 WITH DROP BACK TO 135
REAR DELT BENT OVER REAR RAIS DBELL 30/35/40/45
FRONT RAISE CURL BAR OVERHAND GRIP PREMADE BAR X3 50/60/80
FINISHED SIDE LATERAL MACHINE X2 SET 15 70/80

SHRUGS 225X15,275 X15,275X12
DB SHRUG X2 85/95 AT SIDE 'S

FOREARMS REVERSE CABLE BAR BEHIND BACK X3
WRIST CURLS REVERSE TOP OF FOREARM CABLE.I SQUAT IN FRONT CABLE REST LOWER ARMS ON LEG FOR THIS..LOL..

CALVES STANDING CALF RAISES X 6
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 22, 2013, 07:08:58 AM
GOOD DONNY...

DELTS
WEZ'STYLE'SIDE LATERALS 15/20/25/30/..35/25/20/15 DROP AWESOME..
FR PRESS X3 135/155/165 WITH DROP BACK TO 135
REAR DELT BENT OVER REAR RAIS DBELL 30/35/40/45
FRONT RAISE CURL BAR OVERHAND GRIP PREMADE BAR X3 50/60/80
FINISHED SIDE LATERAL MACHINE X2 SET 15 70/80

SHRUGS 225X15,275 X15,275X12
DB SHRUG X2 85/95 AT SIDE 'S

FOREARMS REVERSE CABLE BAR BEHIND BACK X3
WRIST CURLS REVERSE TOP OF FOREARM CABLE.I SQUAT IN FRONT CABLE REST LOWER ARMS ON LEG FOR THIS..LOL..

CALVES STANDING CALF RAISES X 6
Thank you my friend... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 22, 2013, 07:17:49 AM
 8)..I LOVE PUTTING UP MY WORKOUTS FULL DETAIL ...I DO THEM AND POST THEM,I KEEP NO LOG JUST REMEMBER EVERY DETAIL.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 22, 2013, 07:38:16 AM
8)..I LOVE PUTTING UP MY WORKOUTS FULL DETAIL ...I DO THEM AND POST THEM,I KEEP NO LOG JUST REMEMBER EVERY DETAIL.
I have to admit Steve i have tried to Keep a log but i just canīt. I Keep it in my head. My workouts are simple and i like to just go with my mood on the day in question. I do not see this as bad as Long as you work the muscle(s) hard. I might just do a workout on Monday with just cables, Steve Reeves loved cable flyes. Of course some competative Bodybuilders here on getbig will i am sure Keep a Training diary.. maybe every small Detail could be the extra Points to win.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 22, 2013, 08:15:48 AM
I only do it for here,if I did not post here I would care less...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 22, 2013, 08:52:47 AM
I only do it for here,if I did not post here I would care less...
i enjoy reading the workouts here.. give each other ideas
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 22, 2013, 10:57:03 AM
I like the roasted chickens at the supermarket...just thought I would throw that out there!

60mg Var/250 Galenika Test Depo/250 EQ /4iu Seros

Arms

Rope pushdowns 4 sets drop set on last set
DB incline French press  4 sets
Alternate DB curls 3 sets
Incline smith close grips 4 sets drop on last set
Standing EZ bar curls 2 sets wide 2 sets narrow
One arm machine preachers ss one arm cable extensions 3 sets

Stared at some cute woman in yoga pants the rest of the time.....perfect ass.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 23, 2013, 10:34:45 AM
basement day did 2 sets of total upper body each movement...good pumpday like it,,tomm leg onslaught..
stayed 15 reps and squeeze,push ups as well
side lateral
rear lateral db
up right cable
chest press 2 diff grips
curls 21's
hammers
tri extension db
tri pushdowns
reverse tri pushdown
 
arnold chest lol,,,,my chest idol him and zane
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 24, 2013, 11:36:49 AM
Started new routine today
Back/Rear Delts/Traps

60mg var/4iu Seros

Wide grip chins ss Barbell Rows 4 sets each
Single arm pulldowns ss DB rows 4 sets each
Incline rear DB raises ss cable rear delts 3 sets each
Shrugs on the Smith machine 2X30
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 24, 2013, 11:38:11 AM
legs day
hack squat lots warmups ,,,1 plate per side/2then worked 3/4/5/5.5 per side 12/10 allsets
leg press 4/5/6/7 plates per
extensions 205/220/235 15/12/12/\
no lunges today pretty spent on heavy work..

hams
lying leg curl
140
155
165
sldldbells 70/80/85's

calves superset 3 foot positions 8 reps per position 3 sets around standing calf raise

leg pics all around haven't done in a while ,,,,for jay...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 25, 2013, 01:07:42 AM
last night i just did cardio. 30 mins Interval on the cross Trainer. getting to like this machine. Today chest+back or just chest.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 25, 2013, 05:29:13 AM
last night i just did cardio. 30 mins Interval on the cross Trainer. getting to like this machine. Today chest+back or just chest.
wondering where ya been??been quiet here ,prime is off arguing with booty lol...me/u/wez steady now.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 25, 2013, 10:26:39 AM
wondering where ya been??been quiet here ,prime is off arguing with booty lol...me/u/wez steady now.
just been really busy Steve...not had time to write. I do look in every morning on my phone ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 25, 2013, 12:55:36 PM
Chest/front and side delts day

60mg Var/250 Galenika Test Depo/250 EQ/4iu Seros

Incline DB flyes  4 sets
DB pullovers 3 sets
Cable crossovers upper pec 2 sets
middle pec 2 sets
lower pec 2 sets

Palms up ez curl front raises 3 sets
Lying incline DB side laterals 3 sets
wide grip upright rows 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 25, 2013, 01:11:51 PM
Chest/front and side delts day

60mg Var/250 Galenika Test Depo/250 EQ/4iu Seros

Incline DB flyes  4 sets
DB pullovers 3 sets
Cable crossovers upper pec 2 sets
middle pec 2 sets
lower pec 2 sets

Palms up ez curl front raises 3 sets
Lying incline DB side laterals 3 sets
wide grip upright rows 3 sets
PALMS UP FRONT RAISE EZBAR  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 25, 2013, 02:12:59 PM
PALMS UP FRONT RAISE EZBAR  ;D

Thanks for that one Steve....I am loving it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 25, 2013, 05:33:21 PM
Tomorrow I begin week 7 of 8 weeks of physical therapy. Yippee!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 26, 2013, 01:18:21 AM
Tomorrow I begin week 7 of 8 weeks of physical therapy. Yippee!
thatīs great Jay...hope she is a good looking  ;D last time i did it for my shoulder i had a fat lesbo man hater... :-\ ???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 26, 2013, 01:25:27 AM
thatīs great Jay...hope she is a good looking  ;D last time i did it for my shoulder i had a fat lesbo man hater... :-\ ???

Lindsey is the kind of lady I would marry if I were younger and single. She is not only good looking, but she is a great person too. Actually, all the therapists there are likeable people. I have made some really good friends. Thankfully, they work at the gym where I workout. Even when my therapy is complete, I will continue to interact with them out on the gym floor.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 26, 2013, 06:17:39 AM
I got a physical yesterday with a surprise prostate exam by my new young lady doctor. She kept telling me I have beautiful arms. When she mentioned the rectal exam I asked if she was going to buy me dinner first. She actually giggled at that bad joke. I have a new Doctor.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 26, 2013, 12:52:55 PM
Arms
4iu Seros/60mg Var

Pushdowns....just pushdowns ss rope extensions....3 sets
One arm cable curls 3 sets
Close grip incline smith 3 sets drop on last set
EZ bar curls 4 sets 2 wide 2 narrow
Dip machine 3 sets
One arm machine preacher 3 sets
one arm reverse pulldowns 3 sets
incline cable curls over the head 3 sets

Wrist curls 3 sets
reverse wrist curls 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 26, 2013, 06:13:14 PM
nice wezzie/donnyboy

chest,,,
fdb press 55/65/80/85,, 15/12/8/6/,,80-7 drop 60-7..
inc press 'wez'135/20,165/13,175/8,,drop 155/8,135/8
hammer mid press seated 2 plates x12/2.5 plates x2 x10
cable crossovers ss bw dips x3

tri's
pushdowns ss 1 handed rope extensions x3
tricep dip machine x3
single hand reverse pressdowns x3

abs

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 27, 2013, 01:08:52 AM
I got a physical yesterday with a surprise prostate exam by my new young lady doctor. She kept telling me I have beautiful arms. When she mentioned the rectal exam I asked if she was going to buy me dinner first. She actually giggled at that bad joke. I have a new Doctor.
Need to get my colon check up again...get that Thing stuck in my rectum... :-\ itīs the solution you have to drink before it 3 litres and you are glued all day to your toilet. The colon has to be clean for the check up. Today i will hit shoulders+arms
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 27, 2013, 05:01:38 AM
Need to get my colon check up again...get that Thing stuck in my rectum... :-\ itīs the solution you have to drink before it 3 litres and you are glued all day to your toilet. The colon has to be clean for the check up. Today i will hit shoulders+arms

I have had a colonoscopy and You are right Donny. The procedure is no where near as bad as drinking that shit and living on the toilet all night.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 27, 2013, 10:00:18 AM
Shoulders + arms
Tri set

Machine side raises 4x12
rear delt machine 4x12
Smith machine front press 4x6-8

superset
BB curls 5x10
incline ez extensions 5x10

reverse crunch 3x max.

I liked working side delts then rear and last front press. Normally i do side raises and front press pre exhaust style. Mix it up Baby  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 27, 2013, 10:09:45 AM
I have had a colonoscopy and You are right Donny. The procedure is no where near as bad as drinking that shit and living on the toilet all night.
still...you gotta take it like a man... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 27, 2013, 10:21:43 AM
Extra Arms ( cause I felt like it) and calves

4iu Seros/375mg EQ/60mg Var

Lying EZ skull crushers ss EZ curls 4 sets
Lying DB extensions ss hammer curls 3 sets
rope pushdowns ss one arm cable curls 3 sets
seated calf raises 3 sets drop on last
standing calf raises 3 sets drop on last
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 27, 2013, 10:23:13 AM
Extra Arms ( cause I felt like it) and calves

4iu Seros/375mg EQ/60mg Var

Lying EZ skull crushers ss EZ curls 4 sets
Lying DB extensions ss hammer curls 3 sets
rope pushdowns ss one arm cable curls 3 sets
seated calf raises 3 sets drop on last
standing calf raises 3 sets drop on last
cause i felt like it ...i like that  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 27, 2013, 11:35:23 AM
cause i felt like it ...i like that  ;D

I was supposed to have a rest day......couldn't do it!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 27, 2013, 11:37:21 AM
I was supposed to have a rest day......couldn't do it!
i know what you mean but i Need the rest. what cardio do you do ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 27, 2013, 11:55:45 AM
i know what you mean but i Need the rest. what cardio do you do ?

Have a treadmill at home....45 min 3X week.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 27, 2013, 11:58:19 AM
Have a treadmill at home....45 min 3X week.
great stuff wez. how intensive?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 27, 2013, 02:03:12 PM
great stuff wez. how intensive?

Not very......I hate it but I do it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 27, 2013, 02:19:01 PM
Not very......I hate it but I do it.
well you know mate itīs like you smiled at my workouts. Fitness is not just pushing iron. I know some of the big guys on here think Walking is all they Need to do. Walking is great but really to be fit you have to hit or near your cardio Limit. Maybe 85%. I know i am fit and nimble. Fast agile. What Drugs gave me this? NONE just my Discipline.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 27, 2013, 03:24:43 PM
well you know mate itīs like you smiled at my workouts. Fitness is not just pushing iron. I know some of the big guys on here think Walking is all they Need to do. Walking is great but really to be fit you have to hit or near your cardio Limit. Maybe 85%. I know i am fit and nimble. Fast agile. What Drugs gave me this? NONE just my Discipline.

You are correct Donny.....I need to up my game.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 27, 2013, 04:11:04 PM
You are correct Donny.....I need to up my game.
yes mate
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 27, 2013, 08:03:01 PM
back
front pulldowns x4 150/165/180/185 12/10/10/10\
tbar row chest to pad 2 plates ,2 sets 2.5 plates
low pully row 180/200/205
bent over rows 135x15/185x12/195x10
rope pulldowns x3 x12

weighted hypers x3

abs

bi's
seated curl machine x4
alt db curls 30/35 's x3
21's old school 60lb premade bar
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 27, 2013, 09:22:36 PM
I have had a colonoscopy and You are right Donny. The procedure is no where near as bad as drinking that shit and living on the toilet all night.

This is one of the least favorite of all the procedures thrust upon us mature folks. The prep is the worst part and I am usually starving for something to eat afterwards.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 28, 2013, 03:53:35 PM
quads:
squats, deep & no locking
single leg extension, emphasis on the contraction
adductor machine, emphasis on the contraction

rotator cuff:
3 light exercises with DBs

chest:
decline DB flyes, emphasis on the stretch
standing DB upward raises, emphasis on the contraction
DB pullovers, emphasis on the stretch

triceps:
incline DB extension with both arms, emphasis on the stretch
laying DB kick backs, emphasis on the contraction

forearms:
reverse wrist curls with thick grip, emphasis on the contraction

cardio:
18.5 minutes HIIT session on a stationary bike
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 28, 2013, 05:23:19 PM
Thanksgiving Legs

60mg Var/4iu Seros

Front Squats 4X15X185
Leg Extensions 4X25
Lying Leg Curls 4X20
Leg Press 1X100
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 28, 2013, 07:01:25 PM
Are US gyms still open during Thanksgiving?
I have no clue, since TG isn't celebrated in Europe.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 28, 2013, 07:03:00 PM
thanksgiving...delts in morning 'basement training'
db presses x4
side laterals x3 30/20/15 drops 8-10 per  drop
front raise curl bar x3sets 12
upper rear delt pull in with cable ss with bent over rear delt raise x3
up right rows x2 cable

i have good basement stuff dbells to 60's and bars,and a all purpose multi station weight stacked machine

shrugs ss dbells to sides and to front drops 60/50/45 x3 10/12 per

reverse forearms wrist curls
reg wrist curls for inner

thanksgiving meal had family over..appetizer's cheese 'provolone'mozzarella and tomatoe w/olive oil/parmesam cheese shaved with balsamic ,cheddar,italian olives,roasted peppers,2 different flat breads,sausage and sopresatta stuffed bread.then...turkey.home ade mash potatoes with leeks,stuffing with apples,cranberries ,italian sausage .green beans with peppers red/yellow,'dessert'cofee and homeade pecan pie,homeade pumpkin pie that was devoured,fruit bowl, :P, :-X,some meal,,,,cheers,peace steve.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 28, 2013, 07:07:30 PM
^^
Hard work and 'la dolce vita' 8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 28, 2013, 07:11:50 PM
^^
Hard work and 'la dolce vita' 8)
prego..familiglia tutti bene/mangia abbundanza.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 28, 2013, 11:25:24 PM
thanksgiving...delts in morning 'basement training'
db presses x4
side laterals x3 30/20/15 drops 8-10 per  drop
front raise curl bar x3sets 12
upper rear delt pull in with cable ss with bent over rear delt raise x3
up right rows x2 cable

i have good basement stuff dbells to 60's and bars,and a all purpose multi station weight stacked machine

shrugs ss dbells to sides and to front drops 60/50/45 x3 10/12 per

reverse forearms wrist curls
reg wrist curls for inner

thanksgiving meal had family over..appetizer's cheese 'provolone'mozzarella and tomatoe w/olive oil/parmesam cheese shaved with balsamic ,cheddar,italian olives,roasted peppers,2 different flat breads,sausage and sopresatta stuffed bread.then...turkey.home ade mash potatoes with leeks,stuffing with apples,cranberries ,italian sausage .green beans with peppers red/yellow,'dessert'cofee and homeade pecan pie,homeade pumpkin pie that was devoured,fruit bowl, :P, :-X,some meal,,,,cheers,peace steve.
have some of that pumpkin pie... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 29, 2013, 12:43:56 AM
have some of that pumpkin pie... ;D

We had both pumpkin and pecan pie. I took a sliver of each and added real whipped cream. I'm bad, I'm bad.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 29, 2013, 04:37:34 AM
Are US gyms still open during Thanksgiving?
I have no clue, since TG isn't celebrated in Europe.


All mine were open just for the morning.....traditional leg workout....overall ate pretty good. My wife made her homemade bruschetta that was killer. Steve got fresh bread from a bakery in Newark. Your spread sounds fantastic. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 29, 2013, 05:44:58 AM

All mine were open just for the morning.....traditional leg workout....overall ate pretty good. My wife made her homemade bruschetta that was killer. Steve got fresh bread from a bakery in Newark. Your spread sounds fantastic. 
cool wez....my wifes pumpking pie was incredible,i do not eat that stuff unless holiday but it was really good and light actually.can't beat bread from Paterson,newark,hoboken,ect,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 29, 2013, 06:30:18 AM
We had both pumpkin and pecan pie. I took a sliver of each and added real whipped cream. I'm bad, I'm bad.
sounds great... :) yeah you gotta have some fun...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 29, 2013, 06:38:16 AM
legs today....

front squats on the Smith machine 5x10
seated leg curls 5x10-15
leg extensions 5x10-15
seated calf raises 5x15

cross Trainer 30 mins interval then Basic crunches on a mat. I really like front squats in the Smith machine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on November 29, 2013, 09:32:31 AM
Black Friday arms with my Brother and nephew

pushdowns ss dip machine 4 sets
close grip incline smith 3 sets drop on last set
one arm extensions on hammer pulldown 3 sets
2 arm cable extensions cross in front 3 sets
high cable curls 3 sets
EZ bar curls 3 sets
concentration curls 3 sets
incline high cable over the head curls 3 sets

reverse wrist curls 2 sets
wrist curls 2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 29, 2013, 09:40:44 AM
prego..familiglia tutti bene/mangia abbundanza.

Family and good food, Italians have Values!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 29, 2013, 09:59:16 AM
Family and good food, Italians have Values!
WE TRY...OR WE FIGHT AT THE DINNER TABLE OR TALK OVER EACH OTHER...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 29, 2013, 10:12:36 AM
WE TRY...OR WE FIGHT AT THE DINNER TABLE OR TALK OVER EACH OTHER...

LOL, but the good intentions are there and that's what matters.
When you travel through Europe, you will notice the different mentalities. In general, Southern cultures are much more family oriented, but up here in the North is a different story..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 29, 2013, 10:15:07 AM
LOL, but the good intentions are there and that's what matters.
When you travel through Europe, you will notice the different mentalities. In general, Southern cultures are much more family oriented, but up here in the North is a different story..
I just want a good Dinner at Steves or at Jay...visit them anytime ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 29, 2013, 12:44:35 PM
LOL, but the good intentions are there and that's what matters.
When you travel through Europe, you will notice the different mentalities. In general, Southern cultures are much more family oriented, but up here in the North is a different story..

Maybe it has something to do with city folks verses those who live in rural communities. My daughter-in-law and her family are exceptionally close. My son and his wife live in a Bavarian country village where she was raised.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 29, 2013, 12:48:35 PM
Maybe it has something to do with city folks verses those who live in rural communities. My daughter-in-law and her family are exceptionally close. My son and his wife live in a Bavarian country village where she was raised.
when you visit your son Jay you can come any time to Celle.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 29, 2013, 12:57:10 PM
when you visit your son Jay you can come any time to Celle.

This could be assoon as next summer. Our granddaughter recently got engaged and is planning a summer wedding.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 29, 2013, 01:09:20 PM
Maybe it has something to do with city folks verses those who live in rural communities. My daughter-in-law and her family are exceptionally close. My son and his wife live in a Bavarian country village where she was raised.

That plays a role as well, plus the fact that these days, people settle themselves anywhere. I have family members living in multiple parts of the country and Europe. Only my father lives in the same town.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 29, 2013, 01:24:43 PM
This could be assoon as next summer. Our granddaughter recently got engaged and is planning a summer wedding.
well then Jay.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 29, 2013, 02:14:52 PM
That plays a role as well, plus the fact that these days, people settle themselves anywhere. I have family members living in multiple parts of the country and Europe. Only my father lives in the same town.

Yes, the world is different for many people today. Years ago, many people stayed in the same place where they were born until the day they died.  Multigenerational families lived under one roof.

You still see this in some foreign countries and it is starting to be more common in the States. My daughter-in-law's parent's house is on three levels. Each level had separate living quarters. Her parents lived on the main floor, her sister and her family lived on the second floor and when her sister's oldest daughter wanted to be on her own she moved into the basement. Our granddaughter had a apartment in the basement of her parent's house until she decided to move in with her boy friend and they rented a place a block away. Our daughter, her husband and son have intermittently occupied the second floor of our house, mainly when our son-in-law was deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. They may be moving back in early next year for an indefinite time and to save up to buy a house of their own.

It's funny because it is kind of a slam on Getbig to suggest that someone is living in their mother's basement. Just goes to show how some Getbiggers are behind the times. A lot of young people today are staying at home longer then they did when I was a kid. I was out the door at 18 years of age....on my 18th birthday to be precise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 01, 2013, 08:03:49 AM
Back/rear delts/traps
4iu Seros/60mg Var

Wide grip chins 3X10
Seated palms facing pulley rows 3X15
V grip pull downs 3X10
One arm DB rows 3X10
one arm cable rear delts 3X15
reverse pec dek 3x10
smith machine shrugs 4x10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 01, 2013, 08:03:03 PM
weekend workouts at home 'balboa'style low celing /dark/no music basement training..

saturday did curcuit upper body ..
chest press straight gripx2
side grip x2
push ups x3
side delt raises x2
wide up rights x2
pulldowns fr x2
pulldowns rear x2
tricep pushdowns x2
bar extensions over head x2
curls bi's x2
hammers on knee concetration x2
keep reps high and supoerset some together,,,

sunday felt under the weather weird like a 'hangover'feeling but i didn't drink whatsoever ,dizzy/lightheaded ,fed son and went to go to gym road felt like it was narrowing and felt lightheaded ,i never feellike this.went around corner came home dran glass oj and ate banana ,slept for 1.5 hrs woke up and resumed morning/aft,i still feel groggy a tad.

today was leg day so went downstairs pt 2 for legs i have enough for good pump

did extensions x5 12 rep sets
took 45 lb dbells propped them on front delts and did front squats x3
took 60 lb dbell between legs did wide squats x2
lunged foward then reversed sets 12 per leg x3

hams
reverse leg curl standing x3
stiff legged dbell x3

calves single leg holding dbells sets 12 per leg

so got by with that until normal leg day i needed break too probably for once from usual crushing legs...

added bench now tooin basement does all angles,,somy home set upis getting there too..sorry loonngg post..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 02, 2013, 12:57:19 PM
Chest/front and side delts

4iu Seros/250 Test E/250 EQ/60mg Var

Incline Flys 3 sets
Flat Barbell Bench 3 sets
Incline smith machine bench 3 sets drop on last set
Cable Crossovers 3 sets
Seated side laterals ss Seated DB press 3 sets
Side lateral drop set
Front DB raise 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 03, 2013, 01:57:49 AM
Dips 4x max
push ups 4xmax
dB flys 3x8-10

4x chins
one arm DB rows 4x10
Close grip upright rows 3x8-10

30 mins interval Training cross Trainer. Reverse crunches on an incline bench.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 03, 2013, 07:31:05 AM
BACK TO THE GYM...CHEST

FDB PRESS BEEN GOING HEAVIER AGAIN  60/75/80/85 15/10/8/8
INC DB 60/65/70
HAMMER LOWER SEATED PRESS 2.5 PLATES X12/3 PLATES X10 X2
INC DBELLS FLYES 40/45/50 SS WITH DIPS 10X10 REPS 3 SETS
CABLE CROSSOVERS X2X15

TRI'S
CLOSE GRIP BENCH SS W/ROPE PUSHDOWNS
TRICEP EXT MACHINE  SSW/BAR PUSDOWNS
CABLE TRI KICK BACKS X2

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 03, 2013, 08:10:43 AM
Hate my new split....Was back/rear delts/traps......chest/front and side delts......legs/abs/......arms.....shoulders are too worn out after chest....new split....back/tris......chest/bis......legs/abs......delts/traps......arms.....

Today arms....4iu Seros/60mg Var

one arm cable extensions ss one arm cable curls 3 sets
incline skull crusher ss barbell curls 3 sets
2 handle pushdown ss hammer curls 3 sets
dip machine ss db preacher curl 3 sets 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 03, 2013, 08:31:56 AM
Hate my new split....Was back/rear delts/traps......chest/front and side delts......legs/abs/......arms.....shoulders are too worn out after chest....new split....back/tris......chest/bis......legs/abs......delts/traps......arms.....

Today arms....4iu Seros/60mg Var

one arm cable extensions ss one arm cable curls 3 sets
incline skull crusher ss barbell curls 3 sets
2 handle pushdown ss hammer curls 3 sets
dip machine ss db preacher curl 3 sets 
YA KNOW I WAS GOING TO CHIME IN ON THAT FEW WKS AGO,,,I'VE TRIED THAT ITS TOUGH AND KINDA BORING IN THIS REGARD,YOUR AMPED UP FOR CHEST AND U PUMP UP CHEST WITH GREAT MOVEMENTS,NOW YOU HAVE TO GET EXCITED TO FRONT RAISE AND SIDE LATERALS ,TOO MUCH STIMULATION THERE ALREADY...REST ID GOOD TRPS/REAR DELTS WITH BACK IS GGOD,BUT,,,,,MAJOR BACK WORK WIPES U OUT ROWS/ROW .ROW PULDOWNS,,THEN REAR DELT/TRAPS LONG PROCESS...

I DO THIS..NOT FOR EVERYONE FOR ME WITH YOUNG FAMILY...

MON CHEST/TRI/ABS
TUES OFF
WED BACK/BI/ABS
THURS DELT/FOREARMS/CALVES
FRI OFF
SAT LEG FULL..
SUNDAY REST

AT TIME I POST A SAT WKT WITH BASEMENT PUMP DAY I'LL DO AND THEN LEGS SUN ,SO SOME WKS I DO 5 DAYS OTHER 4 .I LIKE THE EXTRA DAY TO PUMP.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on December 03, 2013, 04:04:56 PM
LAT PULLDOWNS   3 SETS

DB ROWS   3 SETS

PARTIAL DEADLIFTS   3 SETS

MACHINE CLOSE GRIP PULLDOWNS 3 SETS


SEATED CALF RAISES  5 SETS

(THIS IS MY FIRST WORKOUT SINCE TEARING MY TRICEPS BACK IN SEPT)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 03, 2013, 05:26:36 PM
LAT PULLDOWNS   3 SETS

DB ROWS   3 SETS

PARTIAL DEADLIFTS   3 SETS

MACHINE CLOSE GRIP PULLDOWNS 3 SETS


SEATED CALF RAISES  5 SETS

(THIS IS MY FIRST WORKOUT SINCE TEARING MY TRICEPS BACK IN SEPT)

welcome back george..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on December 03, 2013, 05:46:21 PM
thanks, steve.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 03, 2013, 09:40:38 PM
I started my 8th week of physical therapy today. My knee is feeling pretty good. For some reason my right calf was cramped up when I got up this morning and I was having issues with numbness in both my feet. I was still able to do all the physical therapy, including balancing on one foot while play catch with Lindsey, my therapist. She suggested we go to once a week therapy  for awhile at the end of this week.....maybe she likes me?  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 04, 2013, 02:31:13 AM
LAT PULLDOWNS   3 SETS

DB ROWS   3 SETS

PARTIAL DEADLIFTS   3 SETS

MACHINE CLOSE GRIP PULLDOWNS 3 SETS


SEATED CALF RAISES  5 SETS

(THIS IS MY FIRST WORKOUT SINCE TEARING MY TRICEPS BACK IN SEPT)

Great workout.. simple moves which give you (as you Yanks say) the biggest bangs for your Bucks ;D.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 04, 2013, 02:32:23 AM
I started my 8th week of physical therapy today. My knee is feeling pretty good. For some reason my right calf was cramped up when I got up this morning and I was having issues with numbness in both my feet. I was still able to do all the physical therapy, including balancing on one foot while play catch with Lindsey, my therapist. She suggested we go to once a week therapy  for awhile at the end of this week.....maybe she likes me?  ;D
so she is cute? nice Buns?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 04, 2013, 06:34:05 AM
GOOD JAY ...LIKE TO SEE YOU BACK HERE POSTING AND YOUR DAILY LIFE'RETIRED'ENJOYMENT,NOT FIGHTING WITH BOOTY OR GOSSIP BOARD CHATTER..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 04, 2013, 07:00:06 AM
GOOD JAY ...LIKE TO SEE YOU BACK HERE POSTING AND YOUR DAILY LIFE'RETIRED'ENJOYMENT,NOT FIGHTING WITH BOOTY OR GOSSIP BOARD CHATTER..
Yes working out through holidays is tough alot of comotion to derail you. And yes I have had the bicep peak since 10 years old pure genes. I had to bust my ass on legs and calves but they came ok I guess. You got wide shoulders nj just from genes or busting them up with side laterals and such.

Yes good to have Jay back repairing the knee at his age amazing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 04, 2013, 07:51:40 AM
Yes working out through holidays is tough alot of comotion to derail you. And yes I have had the bicep peak since 10 years old pure genes. I had to bust my ass on legs and calves but they came ok I guess. You got wide shoulders nj just from genes or busting them up with side laterals and such.

Yes good to have Jay back repairing the knee at his age amazing.
actually I never get a chance to comment on you overall pic,and you keep very low profile here and gossip in terms of the 'pic' thing,you have a great overall flow build in that pic ,yeah arms are great,but your legs and slender hip region 'no homo'had nice balance ,legs were lean and good separation,it was a classic 80/90's gym built build,i'm sure your training and look is similar today,and i'm not one to say where's ur pic or your lying,,your rep will carry that no problem...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 04, 2013, 08:02:30 AM
actually I never get a chance to comment on you overall pic,and you keep very low profile here and gossip in terms of the 'pic' thing,you have a great overall flow build in that pic ,yeah arms are great,but your legs and slender hip region 'no homo'had nice balance ,legs were lean and good separation,it was a classic 80/90's gym built build,i'm sure your training and look is similar today,and i'm not one to say where's ur pic or your lying,,your rep will carry that no problem...
Well I had a big dad muscular and strong never touched a weight in his life and a slim mom so combine the two you got the combo. I told myself I would only post one pic here and did . Yes I train as I always have heavy, low reps got mostly fast twitch fibers strength and power but little endurance.

Who's to say anyone's pic here is legit I could post any pic I want and say its me. Some people are trusted here as you and most know who they are. Falcon has posted many pics and one could say thats not him but I have met him in person so know who he is. So we will carry on.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 04, 2013, 08:15:35 AM
Well I had a big dad muscular and strong never touched a weight in his life and a slim mom so combine the two you got the combo. I told myself I would only post one pic here and did . Yes I train as I always have heavy, low reps got mostly fast twitch fibers strength and power but little endurance.
I mix it up heavy 8 reps is lowest tho,go to 12..do some stuff at home on off day'weekend'pump day 2 of this 2 of that,,its keeping better than a straight up 4 day regimine,with wife/kids 4 days is plenty mon,wed/thurs/sat...so heavier training gets plenty rest...yeah I pound the shit out of side delts,drops,hi reps,run the rack ,heavy day,,,all work and W   I  D   E    UPRIGHTS...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on December 04, 2013, 10:55:20 AM
shoulders and bis:

seated side laterals  4 sets

reverse cable flyes  4 sets

machine shoulder presses  3 sets

standing ez bar curls  4 sets

concentration curls 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 04, 2013, 10:59:07 AM
shoulders and bis:

seated side laterals  4 sets

reverse cable flyes  4 sets

machine shoulder presses  3 sets

standing ez bar curls  4 sets

concentration curls 4 sets
go George...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 04, 2013, 10:59:58 AM
Cardio day.....4iu Seros/375 EQ

walked around a lot......sigh.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 04, 2013, 11:02:44 AM
Cardio day.....4iu Seros/375 EQ

walked around a lot......sigh.  
b o r I n g .. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 04, 2013, 12:10:46 PM
so she is cute? nice Buns?

She's really cute. She has an athletic slim build. She's an avid bicyclist and skier. She's all woman and looks good. She's a natural beauty who neither wears or needs make-up. She's got a great laugh and a really good sense of humor. If I were single and young, I'd be all over her.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 04, 2013, 12:27:16 PM
She's really cute. She has an athletic slim build. She's an avid bicyclist and skier. She's all woman and looks good. She's a natural beauty who neither wears or needs make-up. She's got a great laugh and a really good sense of humor. If I were single and young, I'd be all over her.
show her a pic of my legs and tell her these are whats ur's usually look like before the injury... ;D..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 04, 2013, 12:33:43 PM
show her a pic of my legs and tell her these are whats ur's usually look like before the injury... ;D..

Yeah, like she's gonna believe that!  ;D.

I do physical therapy at the same gym where I work out. I've known Lindsey for several years. She was my therapist when I was having lower back problems a couple of years ago. She knows I don't have big quads. Anyway, even when my legs were swole, they didn't look like yours. This is why I am so envious of you.  :D 


I would bet you anything that her boyfriend is a skinny dude and not some muscular fellow.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 04, 2013, 12:50:26 PM
Yeah, like she's gonna believe that!  ;D.

I do physical therapy at the same gym where I work out. I've known Lindsey for several years. She was my therapist when I was having lower back problems a couple of years ago. She knows I don't have big quads. Anyway, even when my legs were swole, they didn't look like yours. This is why I am so envious of you.  :D 


I would bet you anything that her boyfriend is a skinny dude and not some muscular fellow.
PROBABLY....nice cute girls sans makeup and just girl next door look never unless there 'low self esteemed'would date an all out juice head...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 04, 2013, 05:26:29 PM
PROBABLY....nice cute girls sans makeup and just girl next door look never unless there 'low self esteemed'would date an all out juice head...

Well, Lindsey definitely doesn't suffer from low self-esteem. She lives in a neighborhood in Portland known as the Hawthorn district. It attracts artsy types and aging hippies with money, since rents are not at all cheap there. One thing that's kind of cool about her is her hair. She wears it in a braid that is so long it hangs to her perky butt. She is definitely not the woman for guys who like big boobs. She drives a 2013 Subaru Impreza Crosstrek with roof racks for camping gear and such. I think you probably have a pretty good picture of what she is like.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 05, 2013, 02:13:32 AM
Talking of hot Girls.. i trained this polish woman yesterday evening. Really pretty, Long Brown hair,great firm breasts. Her Body smell was so sexy.. tell you i think itīs a cave man Thing but i really wanted to rip her Pants off and get my head between her breasts. She knew it too.. the way she smiled at me. she could not speak much German but it was sexy a bit of polish and English. I think i am a Dirty old man.. :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 05, 2013, 05:37:07 AM
Talking of hot Girls.. i trained this polish woman yesterday evening. Really pretty, Long Brown hair,great firm breasts. Her Body smell was so sexy.. tell you i think itīs a cave man Thing but i really wanted to rip her Pants off and get my head between her breasts. She knew it too.. the way she smiled at me. she could not speak much German but it was sexy a bit of polish and English. I think i am a Dirty old man.. :D
;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 05, 2013, 10:53:51 AM
Legs/abs
4iu Seros/60mg Var

6 sets of rope pulldown abs
3 sets of standing calves
3 sets of seated calves drop on last set

standing leg curls ss leg extensions 4 sets
one leg leg press 4 sets

feeder workouts
 
hammer curls 100reps
rope pushdowns 100 reps
side cable laterals 100 reps
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 05, 2013, 10:56:27 AM
DID BACK AND BI'S TOO SICK TO POST WORKOUT,,,STOMACH BUG,TIRED,HEAD FEELS LIKE 1000LBS...NO DELTS 2 NITE.SLLEEPING IN A BALL..SILL @WORK THO OFF TOMMORROW..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 05, 2013, 10:57:56 AM
DID BACK AND BI'S TOO SICK TO POST WORKOUT,,,STOMACH BUG,TIRED,HEAD FEELS LIKE 1000LBS...NO DELTS 2 NITE.SLLEEPING IN A BALL..SILL @WORK THO OFF TOMMORROW..

Sorry Steve...feel better my friend.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 05, 2013, 11:03:59 AM
Sorry Steve...feel better my friend.
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THANKS KEN  :P..I'VE TRAINED A 3/1 THEN LASTNITE OFF TODAY,THEN TOMM SO 5/7 DAYS IS PLENTY..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 05, 2013, 12:05:53 PM
Sleeping at work Flex? I'm going to let your boss know.
LOL,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 05, 2013, 01:35:37 PM
Talking of hot Girls.. i trained this polish woman yesterday evening. Really pretty, Long Brown hair,great firm breasts. Her Body smell was so sexy.. tell you i think itīs a cave man Thing but i really wanted to rip her Pants off and get my head between her breasts. She knew it too.. the way she smiled at me. she could not speak much German but it was sexy a bit of polish and English. I think i am a Dirty old man.. :D

I think you are a dirty old man too.  ;D Coming from an even older dirty old man, let me just say that it gets worse the older you get.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 05, 2013, 01:36:41 PM
DID BACK AND BI'S TOO SICK TO POST WORKOUT,,,STOMACH BUG,TIRED,HEAD FEELS LIKE 1000LBS...NO DELTS 2 NITE.SLLEEPING IN A BALL..SILL @WORK THO OFF TOMMORROW..

Sorry to read this. Hope you're better soon.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 05, 2013, 10:59:05 PM
so inbetween my dirty thoughts i did a shoulder+ arm workout.

Front Barbell press 4x6-8
side laterals 4x10-12
bent over laterals 4x10-12
dB shrugs 3x15

Standing ez curls 5x8-10
incline DB curls 3x10(not a move for heavy weight but great strict curl)

incline French press (ez bar) 5x8-10
Close Hand push ups on floor 3x max.

Incline sit ups 3x20 and later after work 30 mins Interval Cross Trainer. ( the weather is getting worse we got some snow today)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 06, 2013, 11:27:08 AM
nice donny,,,,back on the horse today my usual 1 day stomach virus gone ,,trained delts calves forearms

db press 40/50/55/60 drop 45....20/12/8/6-10
laterals 3x drops 30/25/20
curl bar front raise over hand grip premade bar 60/70/70
revsers pec deck rear x4
wide uprights x2 prmade bar 70 x12

shrugs
225/275/295
db shrugs weight to sides 90/100

forearms
cable wrist curls on knee
reverse wrist curls

calves standing calf raises x6
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 06, 2013, 12:20:17 PM
Glad your feeling better Steve

My anniversary today....bought my wife a new diamond anniversary band...giving it to her at dinner tonight. Should be a hit!

Arms day....4iu Seros/250 Galenika Test/250 Omega EQ/60 Defiant Var

Cable curls ss v bar pushdowns 3 sets
Alternate DB curls ss smith incline close grips 3 sets
One arm preachers ss one arm cable extensions 3 sets
Concentration curls ss one arm DB tri extensions cross chest 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 06, 2013, 01:12:38 PM
Glad your feeling better Steve

My anniversary today....bought my wife a new diamond anniversary band...giving it to her at dinner tonight. Should be a hit!

Arms day....4iu Seros/250 Galenika Test/250 Omega EQ/60 Defiant Var

Cable curls ss v bar pushdowns 3 sets
Alternate DB curls ss smith incline close grips 3 sets
One arm preachers ss one arm cable extensions 3 sets
Concentration curls ss one arm DB tri extensions cross chest 3 sets
thanks and congrats...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 06, 2013, 07:39:50 PM
Congratulations Wez, I hope you have a nice day with your family and friends
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 07, 2013, 12:44:20 AM
best wishes to you and your wife Wes
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2013, 11:48:52 AM
Glad your feeling better Steve

My anniversary today....bought my wife a new diamond anniversary band...giving it to her at dinner tonight. Should be a hit!

Arms day....4iu Seros/250 Galenika Test/250 Omega EQ/60 Defiant Var

Cable curls ss v bar pushdowns 3 sets
Alternate DB curls ss smith incline close grips 3 sets
One arm preachers ss one arm cable extensions 3 sets
Concentration curls ss one arm DB tri extensions cross chest 3 sets

I bought my wife a five stone diamond anniversary ring a few years back. She was properly wowed.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 07, 2013, 11:57:22 AM
Blown away...she cried and it was all worth it. Now enough of this love stuff...back to training!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 07, 2013, 04:25:24 PM
Blown away...she cried and it was all worth it. Now enough of this love stuff...back to training!
nice,,we went to nyc saw tree and went to fao schwartz toy store,,brother in law and his wife ,and me and the wife fought all day,kids drove her nuts,,it was great day ..we will be married only 9 yrs feb together 13 total,i will never hit wez/primemuscle 's anniversary's..i hate being married at times longer i go on at times,,we are complete opposites,,#1 thing she hates is my devoted time to working out ,,totally hates it.

worked out basement tri/bi/chest/back...jumped around,,got new bench put it together does all angles...


 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on December 07, 2013, 04:27:18 PM
LEG EXTENSIONS   4 SETS

SMITH SQUATS   3 SETS

ROMANIAN DEADLIFTS  3 SETS

SEATED CALF RAISES  4 SETS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 07, 2013, 04:34:37 PM
LEG EXTENSIONS   4 SETS

SMITH SQUATS   3 SETS

ROMANIAN DEADLIFTS  3 SETS

SEATED CALF RAISES  4 SETS
georgie ,,,good to see u back,,legs tommorrow..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 07, 2013, 04:37:38 PM
Training on a Saturday evening, I'm jealous (no sarcasm)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 07, 2013, 05:02:39 PM
nice,,we went to nyc saw tree and went to fao schwartz toy store,,brother in law and his wife ,and me and the wife fought all day,kids drove her nuts,,it was great day ..we will be married only 9 yrs feb together 13 total,i will never hit wez/primemuscle 's anniversary's..i hate being married at times longer i go on at times,,we are complete opposites,,#1 thing she hates is my devoted time to working out ,,totally hates it.

worked out basement tri/bi/chest/back...jumped around,,got new bench put it together does all angles...


 

Only three years for this second marriage Steve. I broke the first one.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 07, 2013, 05:06:39 PM
Only three years for this second marriage Steve. I broke the first one.
i'm glad you got 2nd chance..i shouldn't air my laundry here..just a vent..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2013, 05:11:20 PM
nice,,we went to nyc saw tree and went to fao schwartz toy store,,brother in law and his wife ,and me and the wife fought all day,kids drove her nuts,,it was great day ..we will be married only 9 yrs feb together 13 total,i will never hit wez/primemuscle 's anniversary's..i hate being married at times longer i go on at times,,we are complete opposites,,#1 thing she hates is my devoted time to working out ,,totally hates it.

worked out basement tri/bi/chest/back...jumped around,,got new bench put it together does all angles...


 

They say that opposites attract. My wife and I are pretty different in many respects. Although exercise is something foreign to her, she has never complained about my exercising and she often compliments me on how good I look....she lies of course....but I still enjoy the compliments.

My wife and I have had a couple of tiffs lately. Like many women, she can be pretty emotional and often not real logical. I am the opposite. I am rarely emotional and often logical in my approach to almost everything. shopping is not something we do well together. I am a very organized shopper while she likes to look at everything and take her time. The solution is to tear the shopping list in half and then we each go off and do our thing our own way. -Saves both of us a lot of frustration.

We went Christmas shopping today for the grandkids. We got it done in a little over two hours and we hit four stores, all in different parts of town. A lot of the time, if all we needed was one item, I ran in the store an got it while Margie waited in the car. There is always a way to work things out if you just give it some thought.

Of course shopping with kids in tow is a whole other issue. I also probably wouldn't enjoy shopping with other family except maybe our daughter. She shops like I do....and yes, my wife's style makes her crazy too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2013, 05:12:52 PM
Only three years for this second marriage Steve. I broke the first one.

It usually take two to make or break a relationship. I doubt you broke the first marriage all by yourself.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 07, 2013, 06:30:57 PM
It usually take two to make or break a relationship. I doubt you did broke the first marriage all by yourself.

Thanks, but I meant I broke her.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2013, 09:45:01 PM
Thanks, but I meant I broke her.  ;D

You are one mean dude! I could break someone with very little effort on my part, so I think I get what you are saying. When you have this much power over others, it is a good idea to learn to control it unless you want to live a solitary life.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 08, 2013, 08:58:43 AM
You are one mean dude! I could break someone with very little effort on my part, so I think I get what you are saying. When you have this much power over others, it is a good idea to learn to control it unless you want to live a solitary life.

I was no fun back then and drank too much. This one is a joy.

Back/Tris......4ius Seros/60mg Var

Wide Grip Chins 4X10
T-Bar Rows 3X8
One arm Hammer rows 3 sets drop on last set
Superman rows 3X10

Incline cable V-bar extensions 4 sets drop on last
JM Press 3X10
Rope pushdowns 3 sets drop on all three
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 08, 2013, 10:26:53 AM
just did a cardio workout today and some Abs.  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 08, 2013, 10:27:41 AM
LEG EXTENSIONS   4 SETS

SMITH SQUATS   3 SETS

ROMANIAN DEADLIFTS  3 SETS

SEATED CALF RAISES  4 SETS
good to see you George ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on December 08, 2013, 11:25:19 AM
good to see you George ;D
Thanks, Donny.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 08, 2013, 01:01:40 PM
leg day  
squat 135/225/275/315/365/405 x6 :o
leg press 4/5/6/7 plates
lunges walking 80 lb bar
extension x3 x12

hams
sldl dbell 60/80/90
leg curls 140/155/160

calves
seated calf raise x3
leg press x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 08, 2013, 01:09:49 PM
leg day  
squat 135/225/275/315/365/405 x6 :o
leg press 4/5/6/7 plates
lunges walking 80 lb bar
extension x3 x12

hams
sldl dbell 60/80/90
leg curls 140/155/160

calves
seated calf raise x3
leg press x3

nice Steve i like sldl too with Dbs. I do a shorter range of Motion to just below knees shin area. Romanian Deads they call them now ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 08, 2013, 04:26:00 PM
nice Steve i like sldl too with Dbs. I do a shorter range of Motion to just below knees shin area. Romanian Deads they call them now ;D
i agree with sdld dbells i do 60's to top feet,then heavier sets i play with depth to where u say u go,,,shin area and almost lock out slight bend ..i like ythem stopped the bar few months ago,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 08, 2013, 11:29:54 PM
It being Sunday, I took the day off. LOL! Actually, I didn't do anything in terms of exercise today. Call it a day of rest.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 09, 2013, 05:03:15 AM
It being Sunday, I took the day off. LOL! Actually, I didn't do anything in terms of exercise today. Call it a day of rest.
well i have a few Days off now. Today itīs Monday in Germany. I live less than 5 mins from the Gym i work in (Walking) so i will go later and hit chest/back or just chest. Maybe that Polish Girl will be there... :P Really sexy  ;) If my wife reads this i will be castrated ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 09, 2013, 07:54:59 PM
chest
fdb press 60/15.70/10.80/8/85/7
inc db,,60/65/70
hammer lower mid press,2 plates,2.5.3 plates
upper and lower cable crossover 2 and 2
bench to the neck smith x2 nice finish

tris
pushdowns x4 120/140/160/160
overhead rope extensions x3
dip machine x3
cable kickbacks x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2013, 06:55:02 AM
Trained chest yesterday , I was going to do chest+back but in the Gym i got into a workout with a guy in the Gym..just happend ;D

Flat bench press Dbs 3x8
Incline BB press 3x8
Butterfly machine 3x10

He finished off with cable crossover bringing the Hands from a lower Position to hit his upper chest. I did push ups 3x max feet on a flat bench. I do like cables but i just went for the push ups. Steve Reeves loved cables ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2013, 07:01:12 AM
Today i hit back.

lower back Hyperextensions 4x15 (weighted)
Heavy BB Rows 5x10
front lat pull downs to chest (Close grip) 5x10
Close grip upright rows 3x10

the hyperextensions first warmed my lower back up nice.

Interval 30 mins on the cross trainer
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on December 10, 2013, 07:38:40 AM
delts-bis-calves:

standing side laterals (unilateral) 4 sets

reverse cable flyes  4 sets

machine shoulder presses  3 sets

standing ez bar curls   4 sets

precore machine curls  4 sets

seated calf raises  6 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2013, 07:48:13 AM
delts-bis-calves:

standing side laterals (unilateral) 4 sets

reverse cable flyes  4 sets

machine shoulder presses  3 sets

standing ez bar curls   4 sets

precore machine curls  4 sets

seated calf raises  6 sets
great George unilateral ,, great concentration ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 10, 2013, 08:43:05 AM
Chest and Tris

4iu Seros/60mg Var

pec dek 4 sets
incline presses with chains 4 sets drop on last
Super slow cybex chest press 3 sets
chain incline flyes 3 sets

standing cable curls super slow 3 sets
hammer curls 3 sets
one arm cable curls 2 sets
concentration curls 2 sets

wrist curls 2 sets
reverse wrist curls 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 10, 2013, 08:52:52 AM
Chest and Tris

4iu Seros/60mg Var

pec dek 4 sets
incline presses with chains 4 sets drop on last
Super slow cybex chest press 3 sets
chain incline flyes 3 sets

standing cable curls super slow 3 sets
hammer curls 3 sets
one arm cable curls 2 sets
concentration curls 2 sets

wrist curls 2 sets
reverse wrist curls 3 sets
u wrote tri's are u ok wez ..hammer curls hits bi's unless i'm missing something,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2013, 08:59:05 AM
u wrote tri's are u ok wez ..hammer curls hits bi's unless i'm missing something,,
he means Biceps  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 10, 2013, 11:08:54 AM
u wrote tri's are u ok wez ..hammer curls hits bi's unless i'm missing something,,

Brain fart Bis
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 10, 2013, 10:22:40 PM
Saw my orthopedist today. He's a crazy guy. He was wearing the brightest Kelly green jeans I have ever seen and he was rocking them too. I wore shorts, so he could check out the progress on my knee. It was below freezing today. I am so accommodating. Anyway, my knee is doing well. He prescribed four more week of PT, dialing it back to once a week. There is still a little fluid on my knee which surprised him since it should have been all gone by now. He didn't think any treatment was in order. He praised me for all I have done to insure that the microfracture surgery was a success.

My physical therapist told me that I am using a lot of weight resistance at this stage of my recovery. She apparently doesn't remember I was leg pressing between 800 and 1,000 pounds prior to the surgery. I feel like I am still pushing "pussy weight" on the leg press. But hey, that's okay as long as I am progressing. My doctor measured my calves and the right calf is 1/4" smaller then the left. They may never have been even, but it just goes to show how easily one can lose muscle size. What is weird to me is that my right leg looks fat as compared to my healthy left leg. Does muscle turn to fat after all?

It is not a topic of the mature thread, but it is sad about Derek's passing. He certainly got lost on the way to good health. Lesson learned, looking good (as in having big muscles) is not the be all end all. Being a healthy and fit person should be our goal regardless of how we look....Steve's amazing quads aside. LOL!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on December 11, 2013, 10:26:06 AM
abreviated routine today. walked the husky and tweaked my back. downed 2 vicodins and trained back and chest anyway. dropped the db rowing and incline pressing in favor of more chins and cable crossovers instead. gotta get better for fridays arm workout. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on December 11, 2013, 10:45:05 AM
back:

lat pulldowns   3 sets

one arm cable rows 3 sets

partial deadlifts  3 sets

close grip machine pulldowns  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 11, 2013, 12:40:51 PM
Saw my orthopedist today. He's a crazy guy. He was wearing the brightest Kelly green jeans I have ever seen and he was rocking them too. I wore shorts, so he could check out the progress on my knee. It was below freezing today. I am so accommodating. Anyway, my knee is doing well. He prescribed four more week of PT, dialing it back to once a week. There is still a little fluid on my knee which surprised him since it should have been all gone by now. He didn't think any treatment was in order. He praised me for all I have done to insure that the microfracture surgery was a success.

My physical therapist told me that I am using a lot of weight resistance at this stage of my recovery. She apparently doesn't remember I was leg pressing between 800 and 1,000 pounds prior to the surgery. I feel like I am still pushing "pussy weight" on the leg press. But hey, that's okay as long as I am progressing. My doctor measured my calves and the right calf is 1/4" smaller then the left. They may never have been even, but it just goes to show how easily one can lose muscle size. What is weird to me is that my right leg looks fat as compared to my healthy left leg. Does muscle turn to fat after all?

It is not a topic of the mature thread, but it is sad about Derek's passing. He certainly got lost on the way to good health. Lesson learned, looking good (as in having big muscles) is not the be all end all. Being a healthy and fit person should be our goal regardless of how we look....Steve's amazing quads aside. LOL!
GLAD YOUR GETTING THERE MAN...YOU KNOW AS PASSIONATE I AM ABOUT LIFTING/BBING MEANING KEEPING A MUSCULAR BUT'HEALTHY'BODY/LOOK TO IT,AND I DON'T GORGE MYSELF FOOD WISE BUT GRAZE AND EAT WHAT I WANT AT TIME AND KEEP MY LINES/LOOK/ABS ALL YR,ITS JUST WILL POWER AND I ACTUALLY ENJOY TRAINING,MY PICTURES AREN'T MEANT TO ONE UP OR GLOAT OVER ANY SUPERIORITY TO ANYONE HERE,ITS A SMALL TOOL TO SHOW PROGRESS AND PROVE OVER 40/50/60 THAT ONE COULD HAVE THERE 'IDEAL 'BUILD/PHYSIQUE IF THEY TRULY PUT THERE MIND/TIME INTO IT,NOT JUST LOOK AT A PICTURE AND SAY'I WISH..'I DID THAT IN MY 20'S AND GOT OVER IT..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 11, 2013, 02:58:26 PM
Tell her to STFU. And don't get divorced, it's not worth it. Trust me. I'll go out to NJ and knock some sense into u if I have to (or at least I'll try).
CHOLO MY MAN ALWAYS HAS MY BACK  ;D..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 11, 2013, 03:33:34 PM
Fucking Delts!

375mg EQ/4iu Seros/60mg Var

Seated Smith front presses 6 sets triple drop on last set
Seated DB laterals 5 sets 10 sec rest
Wide grip upright rows 4 sets
Side laterals with chains 3 sets
Incline rear DB raises 3 sets
Reverse Pec Dek 3 sets
Reverse cables 3 sets
Front ez bar raises 4 sets
DB shrugs 6 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 11, 2013, 06:52:48 PM
Fucking Delts!

375mg EQ/4iu Seros/60mg Var

Seated Smith front presses 6 sets triple drop on last set
Seated DB laterals 5 sets 10 sec rest
Wide grip upright rows 4 sets
Side laterals with chains 3 sets
Incline rear DB raises 3 sets
Reverse Pec Dek 3 sets
Reverse cables 3 sets
Front ez bar raises 4 sets
DB shrugs 6 sets
punishing.... 8) :D :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 11, 2013, 06:58:30 PM
back
pullups x3 sets 12 ,added 10lb plate each set
tbar row x3...2.5 plates/3/3.5 sets 10
low cable row 180/195/210
underhanded pulldowns x3 narrowish grip
single arm db rows off the rack 85/90/95

weighted hypers x3

bis 
trying old school sets 8 ,,65/85/105/105
db hammer curls across body x3 40/45/50
seated curlmachine x3
21's premade 60lb bar x2

abs floor cruches x3 x30 repsper
side to side roman chair x2
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 11, 2013, 07:10:26 PM
punishing.... 8) :D :P

I was fired up today Steve!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 11, 2013, 07:27:05 PM
I was fired up today Steve!
awesome..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 12, 2013, 05:30:45 AM
abreviated routine today. walked the husky and tweaked my back. downed 2 vicodins and trained back and chest anyway. dropped the db rowing and incline pressing in favor of more chins and cable crossovers instead. gotta get better for fridays arm workout. ;D ;D ;D
nice to see you Funky Bro... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 12, 2013, 12:54:16 PM
Arm day...going to take the next two days off due to work schedule. Let's see if I don't get the DTs.

4iu Seros/60mg Var

pushdowns ss cable curls 8 sets
dip machine ss hammer curls 3 sets
one arm DB extension ss concentration curls 2 sets
one arm cable extension ss high pulley curl 2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 12, 2013, 01:02:25 PM
Arm day...going to take the next two days off due to work schedule. Let's see if I don't get the DTs.

4iu Seros/60mg Var

pushdowns ss cable curls 8 sets
dip machine ss hammer curls 3 sets
one arm DB extension ss concentration curls 2 sets
one arm cable extension ss high pulley curl 2 sets
THE WEZINATOR ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 12, 2013, 01:46:11 PM
THE WEZINATOR ...

I was the veinnator today....arms were road mapped out!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 12, 2013, 02:25:05 PM
I was the veinnator today....arms were road mapped out!
I WAS THAT LAST NIGHT BI'S ,,TONIGHT FORARMS THEY GET REALLY NUTS..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 12, 2013, 02:53:56 PM
I WAS THAT LAST NIGHT BI'S ,,TONIGHT FORARMS THEY GET REALLY NUTS..

Plus what looks cooler?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 13, 2013, 05:17:35 AM
delts
front press x4 with drop last set
cable side laterals x3
cable up right rows x3
rear delt raise on bench with slight incline lying face down x3
side lateral machine x2

shrugs x3 225/275/305
db shrugs at side db's 85/95/100

forarms
cable reverse curls front and back x6

calves standing calf raises x5
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 14, 2013, 03:46:18 AM
Xmas came early this year. Wife got me a nice signet ring.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 14, 2013, 06:12:49 AM
Xmas came early this year. Wife got me a nice signet ring.

nice...where bmc proves uour real,,real hand say's it all..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on December 14, 2013, 02:20:56 PM
Xmas came early this year. Wife got me a nice signet ring.

Nice ring on those chubby fingers. :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 14, 2013, 07:15:55 PM
legs..
hack squats.1plate warm up,,2..then 3.5/4/5 per sets 10
leg press 4/5/6/7 plates 12/12/10/8
stair lunges 45 lb plate each hand up/down/up/down x2
extensions drops 220/190 10/10..230/10/190/10...240/10/190/10.

hams
sldl dbells 60/80/90
leg curls seated 180/195/210

calves
leg press x3
seated calf raise x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 15, 2013, 08:16:18 AM
Tris/Back

4iu Seros/80mg Var

rope pushdown 3 sets
incline skull crushers 3 sets
Cable French press 3 sets
Dip machine with rest pause
100 reps sets pusdowns/.extensions

DB rows one warmup and 3 sets
Wide grip Chins 3 sets
Standing leaning back 2 handle rows on lat machine 3 sets
straight arm pulldowns 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 15, 2013, 11:05:37 AM
Back today short and sweet

Chins 4xmax
Barbell Rows 4x10
Deadlifts 5x10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 15, 2013, 01:00:30 PM
2nd day of cleanout snow/ice storm here,,after leg day yesterday i was shot,,but kids had me out there in the snow pulling them 'both'or individual'one is 65 lbs littler one a modest 35 lolpull in back yard on sled with rope 'my second  leg workout'lol,,,big enough to run and let go and they luge to fence...sidewalk upfront is even better iced they go down few driveways with my running,muscle pulll go start.just got backinside with the older on again she had me pulling/throwing for 1 hour and some snow ball tosses too..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 15, 2013, 01:03:54 PM
2nd day of cleanout snow/ice storm here,,after leg day yesterday i was shot,,but kids had me out there in the snow pulling them 'both'or individual'one is 65 lbs littler one a modest 35 lolpull in back yard on sled with rope 'my second  leg workout'lol,,,big enough to run and let go and they luge to fence...sidewalk upfront is even better iced they go down few driveways with my running,muscle pulll go start.just got backinside with the older on again she had me pulling/throwing for 1 hour and some snow ball tosses too..

This sounds like an impressive workout and so much fun too. We had some cold weather with the treat of snow, which never actually hit us here in Portland, OR. Of course, it isn't officially winter yet....so there is still hope.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 15, 2013, 01:08:29 PM
This sounds like an impressive workout and so much fun too. We had some cold weather with the treat of snow, which never actually hit us here in Portland, OR. Of course, it isn't officially winter yet....so there is still hope.
prime/jay,,sometimes sundays i knock around in basement gym'i'm adding to for a lighter pump day...i do not need it this week ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 15, 2013, 01:18:29 PM
prime/jay,,sometimes sundays i knock around in basement gym'i'm adding to for a lighter pump day...i do not need it this week ...

I am still focusing on legs (knees really). This morning I did 4 sets of 25 standing straight leg kick backs for my glutes and 4 sets of 15 squats for glutes and quads. Later today I'll do 4 sets of 25 seated straight leg raises, 4 sets of 25 leg extensions and 4 sets of 15 toe touches. All this with no resistance other than my own bodyweight. I am using very strict form and keeping my core muscles tight throughout the routines. Only three more weeks of physical therapy to go.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 15, 2013, 01:37:16 PM
I am still focusing on legs (knees really). This morning I did 4 sets of 25 standing straight leg kick backs for my glutes and 4 sets of 15 squats for glutes and quads. Later today I'll do 4 sets of 25 seated straight leg raises, 4 sets of 25 leg extensions and 4 sets of 15 toe touches. All this with no resistance other than my own bodyweight. I am using very strict form and keeping my core muscles tight throughout the routines. Only three more weeks of physical therapy to go.
good to hear jay,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 16, 2013, 05:26:05 AM
we had snow  here but it went quick...  i like going for walks in the snow. Today is my Silver wedding Anniversary.. my god 25 years... ;D time goes fast! still "Alive and Kicking". so I was planning to do legs today but after Deadlifts yesterday i think i will do shoulders.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 16, 2013, 03:27:16 PM
Congrats on your 25th Don.

Legs/Abs Day 250mg Galenika Test/250mg Omega EQ/4iu Seros

Seated calves ss rope ab crunches 6 sets each

super slow ( 5secup 5sec down) leg extensions 3 sets
super slow lying leg curls 3 sets
Leg press 2X50
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 16, 2013, 04:12:25 PM
Congrats on your 25th Don.

Legs/Abs Day 250mg Galenika Test/250mg Omega EQ/4iu Seros

Seated calves ss rope ab crunches 6 sets each

super slow ( 5secup 5sec down) leg extensions 3 sets
super slow lying leg curls 3 sets
Leg press 2X50

Congratulations Donny. I remember my 25th. My wife and I gave ourselves a party, inviting all our friends and family. It was a lot of fun. Next year is our 50th wedding anniversary.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 16, 2013, 07:11:18 PM
Congratulations Donny. I remember my 25th. My wife and I gave ourselves a party, inviting all our friends and family. It was a lot of fun. Next year is our 50th wedding anniversary.
jay/donny awesome anniversary's god bless....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 16, 2013, 07:14:27 PM
Congratulations Donny. I remember my 25th. My wife and I gave ourselves a party, inviting all our friends and family. It was a lot of fun. Next year is our 50th wedding anniversary.

Amazing Jay....50 years. I made it to 31 on the first just had my 3rd on the second.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 16, 2013, 07:17:00 PM
chest
inc press..135/185/205..205 drop 165/135
fdb press 75/70/70
hammer lower press sit up 2.5plates/3plates /2plates ..12/10/15
cable crossovers x3
dips x2 15-20

tris
seated extension machine x4
tricep pushdowns x3
overhead curlbar extensions x3
tricep extensions cable pull cable away from body x2

abs
 


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 16, 2013, 07:19:55 PM
chest
inc press..135/185/205..205 drop 165/135
fdb press 75/70/70
hammer lower press sit up 2.5plates/3plates /2plates ..12/10/15
cable crossovers x3
dips x2 15-20

tris
seated extension machine x4
tricep pushdowns x3
overhead curlbar extensions x3
tricep extensions cable pull cable away from body x2

abs
 




Thing of beauty Steve
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 16, 2013, 07:45:43 PM
Thing of beauty Steve
i'm blushing ,,wezinator ,,,thanks ,,i like the inc drops like u do really pumps upchest before flat dbell or hammer stuff...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 16, 2013, 08:39:01 PM
Amazing Jay....50 years. I made it to 31 on the first just had my 3rd on the second.

Sorry this is off topic and a probably too personal, but I am fascinated by your admission that your first marriage ended at 31 years. Was there something dramatic and sudden that wrecked such a long term relationship or had it gone sour years before and it just took a long time for you both to realize this?

It was at about the 28 year mark that our daughter suggested my wife and I would be happier going separate ways. Obviously she was young and idealistic, like many teenagers and she was wrong. Our marriage has had it's ups and downs, but nothing worth losing each other over.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 16, 2013, 11:16:08 PM
thanks Guys had a very nice Meal last Night but no Alchohol...i got to work early today ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 17, 2013, 02:37:20 PM
Sorry this is off topic and a probably too personal, but I am fascinated by your admission that your first marriage ended at 31 years. Was there something dramatic and sudden that wrecked such a long term relationship or had it gone sour years before and it just took a long time for you both to realize this?

It was at about the 28 year mark that our daughter suggested my wife and I would be happier going separate ways. Obviously she was young and idealistic, like many teenagers and she was wrong. Our marriage has had it's ups and downs, but nothing worth losing each other over.

We had been going in opposite directions for the last 10 years or so. She became a drug addict. She hated me going to the gym. I started having to do everything myself. I woke up one day and said "I am not going out like this" so I left.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 17, 2013, 02:44:31 PM
Bis/Chest day

4iu Seros

one arm cablke curls 3 sets
ez bar curls 3 sets
one arm preacher curls 3 sets
incline cable curls 3 sets

Incline smith machine presses 4 sets drop on last set did all sets with 5 sec concentric and 5 dec eccentric.
Pec Dek 3 sets
Machine presses 3 sets 5 sec again
cable crossovers 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 17, 2013, 10:40:32 PM
We had been going in opposite directions for the last 10 years or so. She became a drug addict. She hated me going to the gym. I started having to do everything myself. I woke up one day and said "I am not going out like this" so I left.

I am sure you made a wise decision. Everyone's experience is different. My wife and I have always been opposites in many respects, particularly when it comes to health and fitness. For a variety of reason, not all her fault, her health is shit these days. I am her caregiver. It definitely sucks sometimes and I unfortunately don't always hide how it makes me feel from her. But it is what it is. I remind myself daily that she didn't plan this life for us. I am with her until the end however far off this may be.

My mom was addicted to prescription psychotropic drugs and alcohol. How my dad put up with this for over 30 years is both a mystery and a lesson for me. He must have loved her a lot. I got out of that crazy environment as soon as was legally possible. I cannot imagine putting up with someone like my mom for any amount of time, much less until I died, like he did. So you have my sympathy for however much of your life you devoted to someone who could have dragged you to the depths of hell.

Hopefully, you realize that I am not passing judgment on others' situations. You did what was best in your situation. You are three years to the good and there is no reason to suspect that you won't live this relationship out until you are both very old and gray.

 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 17, 2013, 10:46:27 PM
I am so excited! Today marked the first of four more physical therapy sessions. My progression is great. I added weight to the leg press, calf raise and leg curl exercises. My balance is great. I did 4 sets of 15 reps of squats on a half ball. Most importantly, I my gait is almost normal without pain. It has been a little over four months since the surgery. The doctor said it could take up to a year to fully heal. I feel like I am about 95% there already. This is not bad for an extremely old fart.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 18, 2013, 01:41:16 AM
I am so excited! Today marked the first of four more physical therapy sessions. My progression is great. I added weight to the leg press, calf raise and leg curl exercises. My balance is great. I did 4 sets of 15 reps of squats on a half ball. Most importantly, I my gait is almost normal without pain. It has been a little over four months since the surgery. The doctor said it could take up to a year to fully heal. I feel like I am about 95% there already. This is not bad for an extremely old fart.
Great that you are making such fast Progress Jay.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 18, 2013, 07:01:09 AM
GLAD ALL MATURE BOARDER'S ARE WELL....MY DAUGHTER'S 8TH BIRTHDAY 17TH DEC,,HAD CAKE/PRESENTS..DAY OFF TRAINING..FEEL GOOD DAY OFF.. BEEN DOING 5 DAYS WK WORKOUTS,,USUALLY 4 ,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 18, 2013, 07:11:30 AM
I am sure you made a wise decision. Everyone's experience is different. My wife and I have always been opposites in many respects, particularly when it comes to health and fitness. For a variety of reason, not all her fault, her health is shit these days. I am her caregiver. It definitely sucks sometimes and I unfortunately don't always hide how it makes me feel from her. But it is what it is. I remind myself daily that she didn't plan this life for us. I am with her until the end however far off this may be.

My mom was addicted to prescription psychotropic drugs and alcohol. How my dad put up with this for over 30 years is both a mystery and a lesson for me. He must have loved her a lot. I got out of that crazy environment as soon as was legally possible. I cannot imagine putting up with someone like my mom for any amount of time, much less until I died, like he did. So you have my sympathy for however much of your life you devoted to someone who could have dragged you to the depths of hell.

Hopefully, you realize that I am not passing judgment on others' situations. You did what was best in your situation. You are three years to the good and there is no reason to suspect that you won't live this relationship out until you are both very old and gray.

 

It's weird, I actually get along better with her now. All is well in my universe. I am happy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 18, 2013, 08:00:25 PM
back 'superset day'

chins weighted 10/20/30 added each set ss with cable low rows 160/180/200
hammer pulldowns face out instead in,, grab bars wide ss with chest supported wide griptbar rows
close grippulldowns ss with rope pulldowns to waist standing and stretch

weighted hypers x3

bis
cable curls x4
db curls alt x3 35/40/40
seated hammer concentration curls x2
seated curl machine x2

abs crunches legs up on bench lying on floor x4 x30
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 18, 2013, 08:05:11 PM
back 'superset day'

chins weighted 10/20/30 added each set ss with cable low rows 160/180/200
hammer pulldowns face out instead in,, grab bars wide ss with chest supported wide griptbar rows
close grippulldowns ss with rope pulldowns to waist standing and stretch

weighted hypers x3

bis
cable curls x4
db curls alt x3 35/40/40
seated hammer concentration curls x2
seated curl machine x2

abs crunches legs up on bench lying on floor x4 x30

Love the back routine Steve
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 18, 2013, 08:11:31 PM
Love the back routine Steve
8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on December 18, 2013, 08:31:33 PM
delts/bis/calves

side laterals  3 sets

cable rear laterals  3 sets

(serge nubret style) lying db laterals 3 sets

machine presses   3 sets

hammer curls   6 sets

seated calf raises  5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 19, 2013, 06:46:53 AM
delts/bis/calves

side laterals  3 sets

cable rear laterals  3 sets

(serge nubret style) lying db laterals 3 sets

machine presses   3 sets

hammer curls   6 sets

seated calf raises  5 sets

NICE GEORGE,,DO U HAVE BIG ARMS WW,LESS SETS IT SEEMS. I DO 9/11 SETS BI'S..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 19, 2013, 12:09:01 PM
Delts/Traps

4iu seros

Side Laterals 10/15/20/25/30/35/40 drop set 40/30/20/10
Seated Press machine 4X10
Incline side one arm laterals 3x10
Reverse Pec dek ss rear cable laterals 3 sets each
Smith shrugs 4 sets
DB shrugs 2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 19, 2013, 12:10:59 PM
Delts/Traps

4iu seros

Side Laterals 10/15/20/25/30/35/40 drop set 40/30/20/10
Seated Press machine 4X10
Incline side one arm laterals 3x10
Reverse Pec dek ss rear cable laterals 3 sets each
Smith shrugs 4 sets
DB shrugs 2 sets
WEZ GOOD SIZE,GOOD MUSCLE TONE 'SKIN'GH SKIN...SAME EXACT SHOULDER ROUTINE WE HAVE ''
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 19, 2013, 12:34:44 PM
WEZ GOOD SIZE,GOOD MUSCLE TONE 'SKIN'GH SKIN...SAME EXACT SHOULDER ROUTINE WE HAVE ''

Getting there thanks The GH has really helped my skin that's true. Not bad for an old Dude!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 19, 2013, 12:44:13 PM
Getting there thanks The GH has really helped my skin that's true. Not bad for an old Dude!
looks decade younger..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 19, 2013, 12:47:06 PM
looks decade younger..

Why how nice of you to say! ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 19, 2013, 12:49:51 PM
Why how nice of you to say! ;D
skin tone 50 or so on the body at least loses some parts wrinkle if your too thin ot too heavy ,,in between is usually ok,addition gh u look smooth still build wise,facially u have rugged good looks  ;D,,still could pass there 48/50,,ur ??/
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 19, 2013, 01:37:14 PM
skin tone 50 or so on the body at least loses some parts wrinkle if your too thin ot too heavy ,,in between is usually ok,addition gh u look smooth still build wise,facially u have rugged good looks  ;D,,still could pass there 48/50,,ur ??/

56
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 19, 2013, 01:38:31 PM
56
8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 19, 2013, 11:15:59 PM
delts/bis/calves

side laterals  3 sets

cable rear laterals  3 sets

(serge nubret style) lying db laterals 3 sets

machine presses   3 sets

hammer curls   6 sets

seated calf raises  5 sets

looking good. I think 6 good hard sets are enough for Biceps. I did more yesterday but normally just 5x8-10 bB curls or seated DB curls.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 19, 2013, 11:22:10 PM
trained Biceps and Triceps together yesterday...

Close grip Bench press 3x10
seated tricep Extension machine3x10
DB kick backs 2x15

BB curls 3x10
seated DB curls 3x10
Reverse ez bar curls 2x10-15

abs crunches on a mat 3x to failure
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 20, 2013, 02:18:19 PM
Arm Day
250 Galenika Test/ 250 Omega EQ/ 4iu Seros

V-bar pushdowns ss rope curls 4 sets
close grip machine presses ss machine preacher curls 4 sets ( stuck a bar in the machine to do close grips)
reverse grip pushdowns ss alternate DB curls 2 sets
overhead cable extensions ss cable concentration curls 2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 20, 2013, 07:34:38 PM
delt day..calves,forearms/tris superset at end

front press super set side delt raise machine x4
upright rows ss with rear laterals on bench x3
db press ss with front wide bar raise x3

shrugs on hammer lying chest machine x4 2 plates/3/4/4.5
shrugs db to sides x2 85/95

forearms wrist curls reverse ss with tricep  pushdowns x4
wrist curls behind back cable ss extension machine x4

calves 5 sets standing calf raise..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 21, 2013, 01:52:37 AM
Legs today...
1 hour fast walk to really warm up because i strained my knee a bit running a couple of days a go.

superset: Leg extensions 3x10-15
               lying leg curls 3x10-15

               BB Squats 5x10
               DB stiff deads 5x10-15
               Standing calf raises (one legged with DB)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 21, 2013, 09:12:01 AM
Legs today...
1 hour fast walk to really warm up because i strained my knee a bit running a couple of days a go.

superset: Leg extensions 3x10-15
               lying leg curls 3x10-15

               BB Squats 5x10
               DB stiff deads 5x10-15
               Standing calf raises (one legged with DB)

go Donny,,,my knee is healing well ,had some knee pain 2 months or so,worked around it,,still strong but I wrapped it more on heavier sets,,be well,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 21, 2013, 11:17:22 AM
Workout went well today ...warmed up well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 22, 2013, 08:14:28 AM
Back and Tris with my Brother

250 Galenika Test/250 EQ/3iu Seros

Seated pulley rows 4 sets
Close grip chins 4 sets
T-Bar Rows 4 sets
Reverse grip pull downs 4 sets

Rope pushdowns 3 sets
Close Grip Smith 3 sets
Skull Crushers 3 sets
Curved bar push downs 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 22, 2013, 01:49:54 PM
legs'''

leg press warmed 1/2/3 plates 12 -15 reps...jumped 5/6/7 and last set 4 plates for 20..
close foot squat 225/275/315x12
walking lunges 50 lb db x2
leg extensions 220 x15/235x15/240x12

hams
sldl dbells  60/70/90
lying leg curl 140/155/160

calves leg press setx4 20/15/15/15 used 3 45's per and 3 sets 3.5 plates stretch pause/squeeze
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 22, 2013, 01:58:26 PM
legs'''

leg press warmed 1/2/3 plates 12 -15 reps...jumped 5/6/7 and last set 4 plates for 20..
close foot squat 225/275/315x12
walking lunges 50 lb db x2
leg extensions 220 x15/235x15/240x12

hams
sldl dbells  60/70/90
lying leg curl 140/155/160

calves leg press setx4 20/15/15/15 used 3 45's per and 3 sets 3.5 plates stretch pause/squeeze
nice Steve, if you had to choose...squats or leg press ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 22, 2013, 03:31:20 PM
legs'''

leg press warmed 1/2/3 plates 12 -15 reps...jumped 5/6/7 and last set 4 plates for 20..
close foot squat 225/275/315x12
walking lunges 50 lb db x2
leg extensions 220 x15/235x15/240x12

hams
sldl dbells  60/70/90
lying leg curl 140/155/160


calves leg press setx4 20/15/15/15 used 3 45's per and 3 sets 3.5 plates stretch pause/squeeze

I was hoping you'd stop working legs so when my legs are working right again, I'd be able to catch up with you.  ;D

Actually, I woke up Thursday morning with my right calf in a painful knot. That cramp has lasted several days. I have no idea what the heck I did to cause this. It sure as hell isn't because I overworked my calf. It's really annoying and I am back to walking like a gimp again.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 22, 2013, 04:16:45 PM
I was hoping you'd stop working legs so when my legs are working right again, I'd be able to catch up with you.  ;D

Actually, I woke up Thursday morning with my right calf in a painful knot. That cramp has lasted several days. I have no idea what the heck I did to cause this. It sure as hell isn't because I overworked my calf. It's really annoying and I am back to walking like a gimp again.
don't want u to get even close to me  ;D leg wise...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 22, 2013, 04:17:51 PM
nice Steve, if you had to choose...squats or leg press ?
squats exude power/mass,,overall thickness..its a must ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 22, 2013, 04:23:00 PM
don't want u to get even close to me  ;D leg wise...

No worry about that.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: TightBody on December 22, 2013, 08:17:01 PM
Awesome job everyone! :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 23, 2013, 05:40:52 AM
Trained chest today...just with DBs

Flat DB press 3x8-10
Flat bench flys 3x10
Incline DB press 3x8-10
Incline Flys 3x10

very simple and Basic.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 23, 2013, 05:50:15 AM
Trained chest today...just with DBs

Flat DB press 3x8-10
Flat bench flys 3x10
Incline DB press 3x8-10
Incline Flys 3x10

very simple and Basic.
one of my fav's there...I like 2 sets 15/20 reps dips bodyweight at end  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 23, 2013, 05:57:29 AM
one of my fav's there...I like 2 sets 15/20 reps dips bodyweight at end  ;D
Steve i can do some push ups at the end but Dips...no iīm whacked. my Triceps i never Train after chest. I only ever pair chest with back. rather 2 large muscle Groups together pulling and pushing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 23, 2013, 02:06:08 PM
Legs/Abs

3iu Seros

Leg Press 6 sets 2 plates each side to 7 plates each side 25/25/25/25/20/15
Leg Extensions ss Lying Leg curls 3 sets each
Calves on leg Press 4 plates each side 4X25

Kneeling rope abs 5X25
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 23, 2013, 02:25:06 PM
Legs/Abs

3iu Seros

Leg Press 6 sets 2 plates each side to 7 plates each side 25/25/25/25/20/15
Leg Extensions ss Lying Leg curls 3 sets each
Calves on leg Press 4 plates each side 4X25

Kneeling rope abs 5X25
STEVE APPROVED,,,,LOL,,,NICE WORK THATS SOME LEG PRESS PUMPING...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 23, 2013, 02:34:10 PM
STEVE APPROVED,,,,LOL,,,NICE WORK THATS SOME LEG PRESS PUMPING...

These old wheels are beat!. Had to do some last minute Christmas shopping and I kept asking my wife to slow down. Thanks Steve. Ready for Christmas? Little one all excited?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on December 23, 2013, 05:09:59 PM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!!!!


Back:

One arm rows   3 sets

Lat pulldowns    3 sets

Partial deadlifts  3 sets

Chest supported t bar rows  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 23, 2013, 07:29:30 PM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!!!!


Back:

One arm rows   3 sets

Lat pulldowns    3 sets

Partial deadlifts  3 sets

Chest supported t bar rows  3 sets
you too george,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 23, 2013, 07:35:34 PM
chest
inc dbells 50/60/70/80 x4 drop 60 x6
smith flat press x3 ..something different
flat flyes 45/50/55
hammer lower press 2.5plates x10/2 plates and 35 x10/droplast set 2 plates x15
lower cable flyes sswith dips x2

tris
old school skullcrushers x4
tricep pushdowns x3
close grip smith press x3

abs

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 24, 2013, 05:07:03 AM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!!!!


Back:

One arm rows   3 sets

Lat pulldowns    3 sets

Partial deadlifts  3 sets

Chest supported t bar rows  3 sets
yes Merry Xmas everyone ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 24, 2013, 06:08:05 AM
Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!

To an even better 2014 fellow old Dudes! Ken
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 24, 2013, 06:13:48 AM
Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!

To an even better 2014 fellow old Dudes! Ken
prefer mature or aged well/pristine old dudes..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 24, 2013, 06:32:59 AM
prefer mature or aged well/pristine old dudes..

Point taken....Still have my Chest and Bis at noon.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 24, 2013, 06:40:11 AM
Point taken....Still have my Chest and Bis at noon.
WAS KIDDING TOO  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 24, 2013, 06:42:45 AM
WAS KIDDING TOO  ;D

I know Brother. Enjoy the little one's faces tomorrow morning. It was my favorite. We will be skyping with the Grand Kids....Ken
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 24, 2013, 06:43:55 AM
I know Brother. Enjoy the little one's faces tomorrow morning. It was my favorite. We will be skyping with the Grand Kids....Ken
NICE...PROUD 'JACKED' GRANDPA...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 24, 2013, 12:24:32 PM
Christmas Eve Chest and Biceps

500mg EQ and 3iu Seros

Incline DB Flys 4 sets
Decline BB Press 135X20 185X15 225X10 275X5
Incline Smith Machine 4X135X20
Cable Crossovers 4 sets

One arm DB Preachers 30X15 35X12 40X10
Lying cable curls 3 sets
EZ bar curls 3 sets
Standing hammer concentration curls 3X10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 25, 2013, 07:03:02 PM
back at home gym closed christmas,,went to dads morning and moms afternoon dinner'.kids spoiled beyond belief'..snuck in some pump time.was usual training day.

behind neck pulldowns x3
in between set pulldown did single arm rows 15 rep set
close grip front pulldowns x3
low pully row x3
front bar stretch pulldown to waist standing in front x3

bi's
curlbar curls x4
inc db curls x3
hammers curls x3 turn db sideways instead usual up and down
seated curls cable x3

abs

old schoolside chest shot...merry holiday all...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 25, 2013, 07:14:06 PM
You are so committed. All I lifted today were a couple of presents my wife an I bought each other, the phone to call our kids, the pots that I cooked dinner in and the fork and knife to eat it. Dinner was good, Honey Baked ham, asparagus, and potatoes Anna. Not exactly bodybuilding food, but tasty never-the-less.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 25, 2013, 07:21:12 PM
You are so committed. All I lifted today were a couple of presents my wife an I bought each other, the phone to call our kids, the pots that I cooked dinner in and the fork and knife to eat it. Dinner was good, Honey Baked ham, asparagus, and potatoes Anna. Not exactly bodybuilding food, but tasty never-the-less.
i should be committed ,,after pumping up wife caught me taking pic lol  :P,,she said well she cursed at lol,,your fuking taking modeling shots of yourself when i could use your help getting kids ready for dinner 'my moms',,we had ravioli,meatballs,pork on bone,wine ,and chicken,ham 2 kinds,brussel sprouts shredded then cooked in garlic/onion/balsamic ,mashed potatoes,salad,limoncello,and another italian desert cordial,no desert tonite for me tho,had some homeade 'cherry pistachio biscotti 'my wife made on christmas eve...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 25, 2013, 07:55:16 PM
i should be committed ,,after pumping up wife caught me taking pic lol  :P,,she said well she cursed at lol,,your fuking taking modeling shots of yourself when i could use your help getting kids ready for dinner 'my moms',,we had ravioli,meatballs,pork on bone,wine ,and chicken,ham 2 kinds,brussel sprouts shredded then cooked in garlic/onion/balsamic ,mashed potatoes,salad,limoncello,and another italian desert cordial,no desert tonite for me tho,had some homeade 'cherry pistachio biscotti 'my wife made on christmas eve...

Damn that sounds yummy!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 25, 2013, 07:57:47 PM
Damn that sounds yummy!
thought u were reffering to my side chest pose'no homo'' ;D,,food was top stuff as usual..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 25, 2013, 09:29:43 PM
thought u were reffering to my side chest pose'no homo'' ;D,,food was top stuff as usual..

I'd like your or your wife's Brussels sprouts recipe (the shredded one). Nice chest BTW (no homo)  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 26, 2013, 01:58:55 AM
well i did some cardio in the Gym yesterday as i worked from 11-16. Germans celebrate on the 24th
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 26, 2013, 05:22:52 AM
I'd like your or your wife's Brussels sprouts recipe (the shredded one). Nice chest BTW (no homo)  ;D
my moms ,I hate brussel sprouts normally,.you can buy them chopped I believe.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 26, 2013, 05:25:34 AM
I'd like your or your wife's Brussels sprouts recipe (the shredded one). Nice chest BTW (no homo)  ;D
well prime I train my chest for u guys certainly not for my wife'she could care less no homo..lol..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 26, 2013, 01:30:33 PM
Delt destruction!

3iu Seros/100mg TrenA/50mg MastP

Rear delt machine 5 sets
Db Presses 40X15 45X15 50x15 55x12
Side Laterals ss Machine presses 3 sets
Front/Side lateral combo 3 sets
Rear Cable laterals 2 sets
DB shrugs 3 sets
Pulls to the face 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 26, 2013, 02:36:36 PM
Delt destruction!

3iu Seros/100mg TrenA/50mg MastP

Rear delt machine 5 sets
Db Presses 40X15 45X15 50x15 55x12
Side Laterals ss Machine presses 3 sets
Front/Side lateral combo 3 sets
Rear Cable laterals 2 sets
DB shrugs 3 sets
Pulls to the face 3 sets

HEY YO BRO I'M DOOOINNGGG DELTS 2 NITE 2,,FUUUGEEEDDAAABOUTTIITTT...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 26, 2013, 04:36:27 PM
HEY YO BRO I'M DOOOINNGGG DELTS 2 NITE 2,,FUUUGEEEDDAAABOUTTIITTT...

Kick some ass Steve!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 26, 2013, 08:39:44 PM
delts
side laterals 2x around 35/30/25/20 8-10 per drop
behind neck press smith x4
front raise curl  bar x3
cable rear laterals x4
2 sets side latera lmachine

shrug superset 225/275/275 with reverse shrug x3

forearms cable curl reverse x3 and behind backcable x3

calves x4 standing calf raise 3 foot positions 24repsets..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 27, 2013, 01:17:06 PM
Arm Day 3iu Seros

Reverse curls ss barbell curls 3 sets
V-Grip pushdowns 3 sets
One arm machine preachers 3 sets
One arm DB extensions 3 sets
Incline cable curls 3 sets
Incline rope overhead extensions 3 sets
One arm cable curls 3 sets
2 arm cross cable extensions 3 sets
Reverse wrist curls 2 sets
Wrist curls 2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on December 27, 2013, 07:54:50 PM
So this is where all the old bastards hang out.  :D

I`m in brothers.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 27, 2013, 09:01:50 PM
So this is where all the old bastards hang out.  :D

I`m in brothers.
;D,,hey man..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on December 27, 2013, 11:11:30 PM
delts/bis:


side laterals   4 sets

lying db laterals (serge nubret style) 4 sets

machine presses   3 sets


hammer curls   6 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 28, 2013, 03:59:28 AM
So this is where all the old bastards hang out.  :D

I`m in brothers.
this is the the last Bastion of sensible physical culture....VINCE GIRONDA ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 28, 2013, 04:44:07 AM
Hey Wes....yup this is like the coffee shop where all the old guys sit around except we are jacked. Ken
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 28, 2013, 05:20:58 PM
2 parter part 1..leg workout..pt 2..dinner i made for me and wife..

quads
hacks set 1 and 2 warmup 1and 2 45'sper side..then did 3/4/5 plates per repped 10-12
leg press 4 /5/6/7 plates last set dropped back to 5plates x8 additional
walking lunges 80lb bar on back walked gym floor x2up once and then back..rest minute between.
leg extensions sets 12 x3 205/220/235

hams
sldl bar 135/185/225/275
lying leg curls 140/155/160

calves
seated calf raise 2.5plates,3 plates.3.5platesx2 sets 12
leg press extension x3

dinner part
prepared cold salad tomatoes'vine type/cucumbers/calamata olives/craisens/roasted red pepper 'sliced'/mozzarella,red onion/balsamic dressing'then chilled

fresh flounder breaded with whole grain bread crumbs fried in olive oil,

pasta rigatoni.. topped with red peppers/zucchini/calamata olives and vodka sauce'not homeade' :P,,

glass red wine ...tutti bene,mangia...buon appetitto..
 
 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on December 28, 2013, 06:45:27 PM
Great to be here guys.................... ..my gym`s closed for 2 fucking weeks.

University gym

I`ll have to hit the other university gym on Monday,as it`ll be open.............it`s the only other gym in town.  :(

I`ll have to read this thread once I get time.

TRAIN HARD...........that Father Time is a relentless fuck!!!!  :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on December 28, 2013, 06:50:17 PM
back at home gym closed christmas,,went to dads morning and moms afternoon dinner'.kids spoiled beyond belief'..snuck in some pump time.was usual training day.

behind neck pulldowns x3
in between set pulldown did single arm rows 15 rep set
close grip front pulldowns x3
low pully row x3
front bar stretch pulldown to waist standing in front x3

bi's
curlbar curls x4
inc db curls x3
hammers curls x3 turn db sideways instead usual up and down
seated curls cable x3

abs

old schoolside chest shot...merry holiday all...
Looking damn good as usual my brother.

Always lean and in shape........props!!

Damn good vascularity also.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 28, 2013, 06:54:34 PM
Looking damn good as usual my brother.

Always lean and in shape........props!!

Damn good vascularity also.
even tho did clue you in on these shots  ;),,,stiill like your thoughts and critique your real bbing 'opinion wise....every one here is awesome .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on December 28, 2013, 07:04:31 PM
even tho did clue you in on these shots  ;),,,stiill like your thoughts and critique your real bbing 'opinion wise....every one here is awesome .
Steve,I can hionestly say,I`m always impressed by your pics and your workouts.

It`s a great feeling to look as good as we do at our respective ages.

Just think,we look better than 99% of the male population and that includes guys between 20-40 or older.........or younger even.  ;)

It`s in our blood bro,that`s why we`ll be doing this stuff forever.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 28, 2013, 07:10:53 PM
Steve,I can hionestly say,I`m always impressed by your pics and your workouts.

It`s a great feeling to look as good as we do at our respective ages.

Just think,we look better than 99% of the male population and that includes guys between 20-40 or older.........or younger even.  ;)

It`s in our blood bro,that`s why we`ll be doing this stuff forever.
even though i never made it in a magazine,i can honestly say i tried hard as heck to resemble in some way a bber ,whether leaness,or decent genetics wise size /shape for my frame,i loved that era 70/90,,loved zane,the most his build mid 70's lean but not 77/82 when he was sickhard which was his extreme ,but the other yrs early 70's i feel on some level kind of the same walk around look,not tooting my horn tho lol,,,i still marvel at your look those gym shots amazing ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 29, 2013, 01:36:53 AM
working today well just 5 hours so afterwards i will Train legs...

    Tri set ....

leg extensions 3x 15
Smith machine front squats 3x10
seated leg curls 3x15

I will finish off with some leg press 3-4 sets and calfes 4-5 sets.

was running yesterday evening and my knee felt very good. I will try and hit my quads better today with front squats and i do like them in the Smith machine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 29, 2013, 07:52:52 AM
Sunday morning =Back/Triceps

3iu Seros

Bent Barbell Rows 5 sets drop set last 3-25s/2-25s/1-25
One arm cable pull downs 3 sets of 20
Rope pulls to waist with pause 3X10
Chins 4 different grips 4X8

Pushdowns 2X25
Dip Machine 3X10
One arm cable kickbacks 3X10
Rope pushdowns 3x15 drop on last set.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2013, 01:37:59 PM
jay i need those orange underwear u have....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Kurt on December 29, 2013, 03:59:00 PM
In..... 48 yrs. old.

I have done this weekly split, and really like it with my hectic work schedule.
My workouts usually last about 45 minutes.

I) Chest and Biceps
II) Traps and Back
III) Shoulders and Triceps
IV) Calves and Legs (  prioritizing Hams).

My workout strategy prioritizes bringing up weak areas, and
longevity. I never have a problem enjoying working out, even without a partner. I get obsessed with my career, and it is difficult at times working out consistently.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2013, 04:28:01 PM
In..... 48 yrs. old.

I have done this weekly split, and really like it with my hectic work schedule.
My workouts usually last about 45 minutes.

I) Chest and Biceps
II) Traps and Back
III) Shoulders and Triceps
IV) Calves and Legs (  prioritizing Hams).

My workout strategy prioritizes bringing up weak areas, and
longevity. I never have a problem enjoying working out, even without a partner. I get obsessed with my career, and it is difficult at times working out consistently.


good to have you..here
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 29, 2013, 04:56:58 PM
In..... 48 yrs. old.

I have done this weekly split, and really like it with my hectic work schedule.
My workouts usually last about 45 minutes.

I) Chest and Biceps
II) Traps and Back
III) Shoulders and Triceps
IV) Calves and Legs (  prioritizing Hams).

My workout strategy prioritizes bringing up weak areas, and
longevity. I never have a problem enjoying working out, even without a partner. I get obsessed with my career, and it is difficult at times working out consistently.



Welcome Kurt with a K..This isn't my younger Brother is it?  ;D
Oh yeah he's 54. Glad to have you..Ken
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Kurt on December 29, 2013, 06:04:15 PM
Welcome Kurt with a K..This isn't my younger Brother is it?  ;D
Oh yeah he's 54. Glad to have you..Ken

Thanks for the welcome Ken, and njflex. One downside to not having a workout partner is I really have no one locally to help keep learning from to improve. I am hoping this forum can help provide that support I am lacking.
My 6 month goal is not complicated. I simply want to make it to the gym consistently. A consistent diet will follow suit naturally. I have spent the past 5 years working feverishly for a new career, which is finally taking off. Now that it is, I can prioritize working out moreso.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 30, 2013, 12:12:18 AM
Thanks for the welcome Ken, and njflex. One downside to not having a workout partner is I really have no one locally to help keep learning from to improve. I am hoping this forum can help provide that support I am lacking.
My 6 month goal is not complicated. I simply want to make it to the gym consistently. A consistent diet will follow suit naturally. I have spent the past 5 years working feverishly for a new career, which is finally taking off. Now that it is, I can prioritize working out moreso.

Kurt all the help and knowledge is right here. Good People on here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 30, 2013, 12:15:41 AM
so what are you all doing for New Year? itīs traditional for us scots to get drunk as a Skunk.. ;D. I will have a few beers but i never drink hard stuff.. no fire water Whisky..lol. i will spend it with a friend and Family.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 30, 2013, 12:36:49 AM
jay i need those orange underwear u have....

Well, I would disagree. You have the wheels I wish I had to cram into mine. If you really want a pair they are made by Adidas. They are crazy comfortable and not expensive. I have several pair in various color combos. If you can't find them locally, I'll send you some, fresh in the original package (no homo,  ;D). Just promise me you won't post up your wheels in orange Adidas on Getbig and show me up.

This morning I did 4 sets of 25 kickbacks, 4 sets of 20 bodyweight only squats, 4 sets of 25 seated leg raises, 4 sets of 25 leg extensions and for sets of 20 flat hand toe touches. I am only two more physical therapy sessions away from hitting the gym and becoming the monster in my mind. Watch out buddy! You are still my challenge and my inspiration.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 30, 2013, 12:46:13 AM
so what are you all doing for New Year? itīs traditional for us scots to get drunk as a Skunk.. ;D. I will have a few beers but i never drink hard stuff.. no fire water Whisky..lol. i will spend it with a friend and Family.

My wife and I have a long history of staying home and doing nothing special on New Year's eve. This year will be no different. My wife doesn't drink and heavens knows I shouldn't drink as much as I do (bodybuilding related). Our traditional New Year's dinner is cheese fondue. Since I fix dinner most often, I think I will once again fix cheese fondue with a green salad. Truth be told, one or both of us will be sound asleep by the time the clock brings in the New Year. Yeah I know this sounds boring to you youngsters who like to party, but it isn't all that bad. At least neither of us will wake up in the drunk tank.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 30, 2013, 03:41:58 AM
My wife and I have a long history of staying home and doing nothing special on New Year's eve. This year will be no different. My wife doesn't drink and heavens knows I shouldn't drink as much as I do (bodybuilding related). Our traditional New Year's dinner is cheese fondue. Since I fix dinner most often, I think I will once again fix cheese fondue with a green salad. Truth be told, one or both of us will be sound asleep by the time the clock brings in the New Year. Yeah I know this sounds boring to you youngsters who like to party, but it isn't all that bad. At least neither of us will wake up in the drunk tank.
ha ha...got locked up once in Stirling Scotland on New Year. They found my ID and called the Military Police in Edinburgh who could not be botherd to come and get me so they just checked i was not AWOL and said just let him out when he is sober... The Breakfast they served me i would not feed a pig :-\ anyway i will have a few but stay at home too Jay.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 31, 2013, 04:00:02 AM
Donīt know what Time you guys have now or even Day...lol you are all scattered over the US.. have a Happy New Year. Drink and be Merry.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 31, 2013, 05:20:43 AM
Same here prefer to keep out of the way of the amateur drunks. Be safe and happy guys...Ken
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 31, 2013, 05:34:46 AM
Same here prefer to keep out of the way of the amateur drunks. Be safe and happy guys...Ken
you too Ken.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 31, 2013, 10:03:08 AM
New Years Eve Chest and Bis

3iu Humatrope 100TrenA/50MastP

Incline Smith 5 sets drop on last 225/185/135
Cable Crossovers 3 sets
Flat bench with 40Lbs chain each side 3x135x10
Pec Dek 3 X15

Alternate DB Curls 3 sets
Hammer Curls 3 sets
One arm Preacher curls 3 sets
Concentration curls 2 sets

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 31, 2013, 11:49:05 AM
HAPPY NEW YEAR DUDES...

CHEST DONNY SPECIAL...

TRISET #1 INC PRESS WITH HAMMER LOWER PRESS WITH DIPS X3 REPS 8-10 PER WEIGHTS 135/165/185 ,2 PLATES/2.5 PLATESX2/DIP BWEIGHT,,,
TRISET #2
FDB PRESS TURNING DBELLS IN AT TOP PALMS FACE AT TOP PORTION..WITH FLAT FLYES WITH LOWER CABLE FLY X3...DBELL 60/60/60 ,,FLYE 40/40/40,CABLES LIGHT WEIGHT WAS FRIED BY THEN...

TRIS
DIP MACHINE TRI X3
ROPE PUSHDOWNS OUT X3
EXTENSION MACHINE SEATED X3
KICK BACKS CABLE X2

ABS...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 31, 2013, 11:56:52 AM
HAPPY NEW YEAR DUDES...

CHEST DONNY SPECIAL...

TRISET #1 INC PRESS WITH HAMMER LOWER PRESS WITH DIPS X3 REPS 8-10 PER WEIGHTS 135/165/185 ,2 PLATES/2.5 PLATESX2/DIP BWEIGHT,,,
TRISET #2
FDB PRESS TURNING DBELLS IN AT TOP PALMS FACE AT TOP PORTION..WITH FLAT FLYES WITH LOWER CABLE FLY X3...DBELL 60/60/60 ,,FLYE 40/40/40,CABLES LIGHT WEIGHT WAS FRIED BY THEN...

TRIS
DIP MACHINE TRI X3
ROPE PUSHDOWNS OUT X3
EXTENSION MACHINE SEATED X3
KICK BACKS CABLE X2

ABS...

Nice Steve....no fucking around!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 31, 2013, 12:54:37 PM
I WISH THE MATURE THREAD A GREAT NEW YEAR... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Kurt on December 31, 2013, 04:20:43 PM
I hit chest and biceps after work last night.

Tonight, my wife and I are heading to the gym, and I will do abs and cardio. Then we plan on heading out for dinner, and back home at a decent hour.

Have a safe and fun new year's eve everyone.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 31, 2013, 05:00:47 PM
I hit chest and biceps after work last night.

Tonight, my wife and I are heading to the gym, and I will do abs and cardio. Then we plan on heading out for dinner, and back home at a decent hour.

Have a safe and fun new year's eve everyone.
u too..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on December 31, 2013, 05:03:19 PM
Damn my wife made Veal Marsala, Shrimp Scampi, Caesar Salad, fresh Italian bread from that bakery in Newark. Looks like Delts/Traps on New Years Day with my Brother. Stay safe Old Dudes. Ken
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 31, 2013, 10:47:27 PM
Donīt know what Time you guys have now or even Day...lol you are all scattered over the US.. have a Happy New Year. Drink and be Merry.. ;D

Happy New Year to all my mates around the world. Some of you have already begun the new year and others of us are still waiting for that magic moment.

As is tradition in our home, I fixed cheese fondue and salad, To insure the protein level was up to par, I added sautéed scampi. I even bought my honey some Baileys Irish Cream. She doesn't drink, but she's had a couple of glasses of Baileys....maybe we'll party for New Years. She is Irish, after all, what better drink to get her in the mood.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 01, 2014, 09:30:02 AM
New Years Day Delts/Traps

100mg TrenA/50mg Mast P/3iu Humatrope

Reverse pec dek 3X10
Bent Over DB laterals 3X10
Side cable laterals 3X10
Life Fitness side lateral machine 3X12
Steve's reverse grip ez curl front raises 3X10
Seated cable machine presses 4X10 drop set on last set
Smith machine shrugs 6 sets drop on last 3 plates/2plates/1plate
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 01, 2014, 09:31:43 AM
happy new yrs dudes,,,,trained in basement everyones a bit sick,me included..

back
lat pulldowns behind neck x4
inc rows on bench ..lay face down on bench inclined pull dbells up as high as u could go..
low pulley rows cable under grip x3
cable pulldowns narrow grip stand in front stretch up and pull to waist,basicallt staning pulldown lol,,,like a pullover too..
upper back row cable pulled to chest and stretched out ,good for rhombois/rear traps upper

bi's
inc curls used 30's 12/15
hammers on pad hanging over,i don't have scott curl so i improvised
dbell curls with 45's x2
reg old schoolcurl bar curls x3

abs

at home its sometimes better than going into cold to gym espon day off holiday...
thanks for a great 2013 banter,pics,thread,comments,the cool life stories 'donnie/jay bring,,i just post workouts and comment on u too interesting lives over the yrs...i'llopen up more  in 14 lol...

my pics are starting to get me into possible stage return masters class we will see...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 01, 2014, 09:34:08 AM
New Years Day Delts/Traps

100mg TrenA/50mg Mast P/3iu Humatrope

Reverse pec dek 3X10
Bent Over DB laterals 3X10
Side cable laterals 3X10
Life Fitness side lateral machine 3X12
Steve's reverse grip ez curl front raises 3X10
Seated cable machine presses 4X10 drop set on last set
Smith machine shrugs 6 sets drop on last 3 plates/2plates/1plate
nice pic wez,,intense stuff u and walter white are great over 50's ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 01, 2014, 09:37:19 AM
nice pic wez,,intense stuff u and walter white are great over 50's ;D

Thanks Steve...you are ready my friend. I agree Walt looks great. I will be 57 this year and plan on looking my best ever. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 01, 2014, 09:40:49 AM
Thanks Steve...you are ready my friend. I agree Walt looks great. I will be 57 this year and plan on looking my best ever. 
57 :o..awesome...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on January 02, 2014, 10:32:39 PM
delts and calves:

side laterals   4 sets

serge nubret laterals   4 sets

smith machine presses  4 sets

seated calf raises  6 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 03, 2014, 10:35:55 AM
delts and calves:

side laterals   4 sets

serge nubret laterals   4 sets

smith machine presses  4 sets

seated calf raises  6 sets

'serge nubret laterals'? Please elaborate.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on January 03, 2014, 10:56:58 AM
'serge nubret laterals'? Please elaborate.
lying on the floor......serge nubret made this exercise popular......it hits the rear delts nicely.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 03, 2014, 11:03:19 AM
lying on the floor......serge nubret made this exercise popular......it hits the rear delts nicely.

I've did the incline version many times, but never this one. Sounds effective (read: painful, lol)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 03, 2014, 01:33:33 PM
Snow storm arms

3iu Humatrope,250 Galenika Test,100 TrenA,50 Mast P

lots of cables and preachers....not in the mood to list it. Feeling old today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 03, 2014, 07:17:16 PM
deltage  ...

front press x4
side cable laterals x3
rear pec deck fliesx4
upright rows curlbar sswith dbellfront raise 'hammer grip slight bend in elbow ;raise turned across upper chest a bit.
finished 25 lb dbellside raise at sides straight out..

shrugs 225 x12 and rest 30/45 secs grab dbell 85 at sides pull up and towards back not full roll..
again 275 and 90lb dbell
295 and 95 dbell

forearms superset cable wrist curls with behind back bar wrist curls

calves 5 sets standing calf raises..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 03, 2014, 07:18:49 PM
deltage  ...

front press x4
side cable laterals x3
rear pec deck fliesx4
upright rows curlbar sswith dbellfront raise 'hammer grip slight bend in elbow ;raise turned across upper chest a bit.
finished 25 lb dbellside raise at sides straight out..

shrugs 225 x12 and rest 30/45 secs grab dbell 85 at sides pull up and towards back not full roll..
again 275 and 90lb dbell
295 and 95 dbell

forearms superset cable wrist curls with behind back bar wrist curls

calves 5 sets standing calf raises..

Workout of beauty Steve
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 03, 2014, 07:21:15 PM
Workout of beauty Steve
thanks wez,,more pics lets see em,,training are cool ones.year of the wez..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on January 03, 2014, 09:37:35 PM
deltage  ...

front press x4
side cable laterals x3
rear pec deck fliesx4
upright rows curlbar sswith dbellfront raise 'hammer grip slight bend in elbow ;raise turned across upper chest a bit.
finished 25 lb dbellside raise at sides straight out..

shrugs 225 x12 and rest 30/45 secs grab dbell 85 at sides pull up and towards back not full roll..
again 275 and 90lb dbell
295 and 95 dbell

forearms superset cable wrist curls with behind back bar wrist curls

calves 5 sets standing calf raises..
nice workout, steverino!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 04, 2014, 01:59:03 AM
I did a full Body workout yesterday and it got me working hard. Missed a couple of Days Training so i trained it all doing 3-4 sets per ex 6-10 reps.

Barbell squats
Barbell Rows
dB Bench press
dB flys
chin ups
shoulder press
parallel bar Dips.

arms hit well with Dips and chins. was quite taxing and a Change from split Training.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on January 04, 2014, 03:45:21 PM
I did a full Body workout yesterday and it got me working hard. Missed a couple of Days Training so i trained it all doing 3-4 sets per ex 6-10 reps.

Barbell squats
Barbell Rows
dB Bench press
dB flys
chin ups
shoulder press
parallel bar Dips.

arms hit well with Dips and chins. was quite taxing and a Change from split Training.
great old school workout!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 04, 2014, 07:16:21 PM
thanks wez,,more pics lets see em,,training are cool ones.year of the wez..

Rotator cuff work
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2014, 02:03:44 AM
great old school workout!!!
was a nice Change and i worked fairly fast. Some of the old School guys like Steve reeves built great physiques with full Body and Reg Park built mass on a 5x5 full Body workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 05, 2014, 08:42:04 AM
Sunday morning Chest/Biceps

100mg TrenA/50mg Mast P/3iu Humatrope

Flat barbell Bench 95X20 135X15 185X10 225X3X8
Incline Smith machine 135X20 185X10 drop set with 8-10s on each side all the way down to 1 (8 drops)
Cable Crossover 21s 7 high 7 medium 7 low 2 sets

Dumbell curls 3 sets
Hammer curls 3 sets
Spider curls 3 sets
Cable curls (one arm ) 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2014, 11:26:20 AM
Sunday morning Chest/Biceps

100mg TrenA/50mg Mast P/3iu Humatrope

Flat barbell Bench 95X20 135X15 185X10 225X3X8
Incline Smith machine 135X20 185X10 drop set with 8-10s on each side all the way down to 1 (8 drops)
Cable Crossover 21s 7 high 7 medium 7 low 2 sets

Dumbell curls 3 sets
Hammer curls 3 sets
Spider curls 3 sets
Cable curls (one arm ) 3 sets
spider curls also a great old school exercise
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 05, 2014, 12:30:42 PM
Yea I have brought them back from the dead!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2014, 04:19:52 AM
so Today i did 30 mins interval on the Bike.

Bench press (BB) 4x6-10
Squats 4x8-10
Military press 4x6-10
BB curls 4x8-10
2x 50 leg raises off a flat bench

I have decided to split my workouts in 2  and alternate them. I could have put Dips in there but i will do them on my next workout Day when doing more back and Deads. I will then hit chest, shoulders triceps again. I will during winter stick to very Basic routines and Switch over to a traditionel 3 day split later on.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 06, 2014, 05:51:52 AM
so Today i did 30 mins interval on the Bike.

Bench press (BB) 4x6-10
Squats 4x8-10
Military press 4x6-10
BB curls 4x8-10
2x 50 leg raises off a flat bench

I have decided to split my workouts in 2  and alternate them. I could have put Dips in there but i will do them on my next workout Day when doing more back and Deads. I will then hit chest, shoulders triceps again. I will during winter stick to very Basic routines and Switch over to a traditionel 3 day split later on.

You sure tis isn't Steve Reeves? ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2014, 06:00:34 AM
You sure tis isn't Steve Reeves? ;D
  ;D itīs a refreshing Change.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 06, 2014, 07:00:43 AM
  ;D itīs a refreshing Change.

Sounds it....might be time to give a go for a bit. 3X week? 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2014, 07:51:53 AM
SOME CRAZINESS AT HOME LIFE,,KEEP IT BRIEF,WIFE EXCRUCIATING PAIN FOR ABOUT WEEK LEG/GLUTE/NERVE R/S LEG,UNABLE TO WALK AND EVEN SIT TO GO TO BATHROOM,HISTORY AND ACCEPTED BACK ISSUES IN PAST ,TREATED BUT LIVED WITH IT,LAST PREGNANCY WAS KILLER ON HER AND I BELIEVE IT WAS FINAL STRAW,MRI DONE FRI 1/3 INDICATED MASSIVE TRAUMA 2 NERVES AND L-7 DISC TO BE REMOVED CRUMBLED,,HAD SAME DAY SURGERY IT WAS THAT IMMEDIATE,,NOW WITH A 4 MONTH OLD SHE CAN'T BEND,WALK OR TOUCH HIM UNLESS HE'S HANDED TO HER AND THATS TOUGH.OTHER 2 KIDS ARE TO ATTENDED TO AS WELL,HAVE SOME FAMILY HER FAMILY I CAN'T STAND WE ACTUALLY HAD A MAJOR BLOWOUT THE DAY OF THE SURGERY AT MY HOUSE'MY WIFE DOSEN'T KNOW ABOUT IT;SHE IS A NITPICKING,SAY'S WHATEVER SHE WANT KIND OF PERSON'NOT IN MY HOUSE'ARE U FUCKING GOING TO TELL ME WHAT I 'NEED TO DO'AND SOME OF THIS IS CAUSED FROM MY'WIFE'DOING TOO MUCH,'HELLO'I DON'T NEED TO GO INTO FULL DTAIL WHAT 'I'DO AS PART OF THIS RELATIONSHIP.SO.....I MAY OR MAY NOT BE POSTING HERE AS MUCH WE'LL SEE,MY WORKOUTS WILL BE MOSTLY FROM HOME CAUSE I REALLY CAN'T LEAVE THE HOUSE ONCE I GET HOME FROM 10 HR WORK DAY AND I EAT LUNCH AT MY DESK SO ITS 10 HOURS SOLID AT MY DESK..THIS IS WHY THEY CALL IT'SICKNESS AND IN HEALTH'SHE'S ONLY 38 YRS OLD..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 06, 2014, 08:03:50 AM
SOME CRAZINESS AT HOME LIFE,,KEEP IT BRIEF,WIFE EXCRUCIATING PAIN FOR ABOUT WEEK LEG/GLUTE/NERVE R/S LEG,UNABLE TO WALK AND EVEN SIT TO GO TO BATHROOM,HISTORY AND ACCEPTED BACK ISSUES IN PAST ,TREATED BUT LIVED WITH IT,LAST PREGNANCY WAS KILLER ON HER AND I BELIEVE IT WAS FINAL STRAW,MRI DONE FRI 1/3 INDICATED MASSIVE TRAUMA 2 NERVES AND L-7 DISC TO BE REMOVED CRUMBLED,,HAD SAME DAY SURGERY IT WAS THAT IMMEDIATE,,NOW WITH A 4 MONTH OLD SHE CAN'T BEND,WALK OR TOUCH HIM UNLESS HE'S HANDED TO HER AND THATS TOUGH.OTHER 2 KIDS ARE TO ATTENDED TO AS WELL,HAVE SOME FAMILY HER FAMILY I CAN'T STAND WE ACTUALLY HAD A MAJOR BLOWOUT THE DAY OF THE SURGERY AT MY HOUSE'MY WIFE DOSEN'T KNOW ABOUT IT;SHE IS A NITPICKING,SAY'S WHATEVER SHE WANT KIND OF PERSON'NOT IN MY HOUSE'ARE U FUCKING GOING TO TELL ME WHAT I 'NEED TO DO'AND SOME OF THIS IS CAUSED FROM MY'WIFE'DOING TOO MUCH,'HELLO'I DON'T NEED TO GO INTO FULL DTAIL WHAT 'I'DO AS PART OF THIS RELATIONSHIP.SO.....I MAY OR MAY NOT BE POSTING HERE AS MUCH WE'LL SEE,MY WORKOUTS WILL BE MOSTLY FROM HOME CAUSE I REALLY CAN'T LEAVE THE HOUSE ONCE I GET HOME FROM 10 HR WORK DAY AND I EAT LUNCH AT MY DESK SO ITS 10 HOURS SOLID AT MY DESK..THIS IS WHY THEY CALL IT'SICKNESS AND IN HEALTH'SHE'S ONLY 38 YRS OLD..

I hope the saying " and this too shall pass" applies here Steve.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2014, 08:32:02 AM
I hope the saying " and this too shall pass" applies here Steve.
8 WKS GOES QUICK BUT SHE WAS SLATED TO GO BACK TO WORK AND DISABILITY IS SHIT,THEY RAN BEHIND LAST FEW MONTHS  ON THE EXTENDED BENEFITS FOR PREGNANCY AND THE EVERYDAY BILLS DON'T STOP FOR ANYONE/ANYTHING...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on January 06, 2014, 11:01:47 AM
steverino......praying for you and yours!!!!


hope your wife heals as quickly as possible!!!!


keep your head up bud!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 06, 2014, 11:58:13 AM
SOME CRAZINESS AT HOME LIFE,,KEEP IT BRIEF,WIFE EXCRUCIATING PAIN FOR ABOUT WEEK LEG/GLUTE/NERVE R/S LEG,UNABLE TO WALK AND EVEN SIT TO GO TO BATHROOM,HISTORY AND ACCEPTED BACK ISSUES IN PAST ,TREATED BUT LIVED WITH IT,LAST PREGNANCY WAS KILLER ON HER AND I BELIEVE IT WAS FINAL STRAW,MRI DONE FRI 1/3 INDICATED MASSIVE TRAUMA 2 NERVES AND L-7 DISC TO BE REMOVED CRUMBLED,,HAD SAME DAY SURGERY IT WAS THAT IMMEDIATE,,NOW WITH A 4 MONTH OLD SHE CAN'T BEND,WALK OR TOUCH HIM UNLESS HE'S HANDED TO HER AND THATS TOUGH.OTHER 2 KIDS ARE TO ATTENDED TO AS WELL,HAVE SOME FAMILY HER FAMILY I CAN'T STAND WE ACTUALLY HAD A MAJOR BLOWOUT THE DAY OF THE SURGERY AT MY HOUSE'MY WIFE DOSEN'T KNOW ABOUT IT;SHE IS A NITPICKING,SAY'S WHATEVER SHE WANT KIND OF PERSON'NOT IN MY HOUSE'ARE U FUCKING GOING TO TELL ME WHAT I 'NEED TO DO'AND SOME OF THIS IS CAUSED FROM MY'WIFE'DOING TOO MUCH,'HELLO'I DON'T NEED TO GO INTO FULL DTAIL WHAT 'I'DO AS PART OF THIS RELATIONSHIP.SO.....I MAY OR MAY NOT BE POSTING HERE AS MUCH WE'LL SEE,MY WORKOUTS WILL BE MOSTLY FROM HOME CAUSE I REALLY CAN'T LEAVE THE HOUSE ONCE I GET HOME FROM 10 HR WORK DAY AND I EAT LUNCH AT MY DESK SO ITS 10 HOURS SOLID AT MY DESK..THIS IS WHY THEY CALL IT'SICKNESS AND IN HEALTH'SHE'S ONLY 38 YRS OLD..

This is rough. Your wife is lucky she has you to help her and to take care of the kids while she cannot. Too bad the family isn't on the same page with you. Can you take family medical leave from your job? If you are unaware of this, here is a link to some more information about it: http://employment.findlaw.com/family-medical-leave/family-and-medical-leave-act.html?DCMP=GOO-EMP_FMLA-States&HBX_PK=family+medical+leave+act+new+york (http://employment.findlaw.com/family-medical-leave/family-and-medical-leave-act.html?DCMP=GOO-EMP_FMLA-States&HBX_PK=family+medical+leave+act+new+york).

I cannot imagine the stress this must be putting on both you and your wife. If the family is going to be more of a pain than a help, it might be better to hire some help. Sometimes medical insurance will help cover the cost.

Both my wife and I have sciatica caused by spinal arthritis or spinal degeneration. Margie is seeing a spine doctor later this week to discuss her options. I have been dealing with my sciatica for a couple of years. Once physical therapy is done for my knee, I will also look into what I can do to relieve the sciatica. Mine is cause by arthritis while my wife has at least 4 discs while have no cushion left at all. She is not healthy enough for surgery so she will be limited to steroid injections. This might be the way I'd prefer to go too....at least at first. Of course, both my wife and I have this condition because we are old and because some of our parts are wearing out.  :(

Hang in there Steve. You're a strong man....and I'm not talking about your muscles. Your wife is very blessed to have you to help her get through this. If you can, ignore the meddling family folks and don't let them get to you. Arguing just adds to both you and your wife's stress levels and that won't help her heal. Stress is not good.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2014, 12:24:54 PM
SOME CRAZINESS AT HOME LIFE,,KEEP IT BRIEF,WIFE EXCRUCIATING PAIN FOR ABOUT WEEK LEG/GLUTE/NERVE R/S LEG,UNABLE TO WALK AND EVEN SIT TO GO TO BATHROOM,HISTORY AND ACCEPTED BACK ISSUES IN PAST ,TREATED BUT LIVED WITH IT,LAST PREGNANCY WAS KILLER ON HER AND I BELIEVE IT WAS FINAL STRAW,MRI DONE FRI 1/3 INDICATED MASSIVE TRAUMA 2 NERVES AND L-7 DISC TO BE REMOVED CRUMBLED,,HAD SAME DAY SURGERY IT WAS THAT IMMEDIATE,,NOW WITH A 4 MONTH OLD SHE CAN'T BEND,WALK OR TOUCH HIM UNLESS HE'S HANDED TO HER AND THATS TOUGH.OTHER 2 KIDS ARE TO ATTENDED TO AS WELL,HAVE SOME FAMILY HER FAMILY I CAN'T STAND WE ACTUALLY HAD A MAJOR BLOWOUT THE DAY OF THE SURGERY AT MY HOUSE'MY WIFE DOSEN'T KNOW ABOUT IT;SHE IS A NITPICKING,SAY'S WHATEVER SHE WANT KIND OF PERSON'NOT IN MY HOUSE'ARE U FUCKING GOING TO TELL ME WHAT I 'NEED TO DO'AND SOME OF THIS IS CAUSED FROM MY'WIFE'DOING TOO MUCH,'HELLO'I DON'T NEED TO GO INTO FULL DTAIL WHAT 'I'DO AS PART OF THIS RELATIONSHIP.SO.....I MAY OR MAY NOT BE POSTING HERE AS MUCH WE'LL SEE,MY WORKOUTS WILL BE MOSTLY FROM HOME CAUSE I REALLY CAN'T LEAVE THE HOUSE ONCE I GET HOME FROM 10 HR WORK DAY AND I EAT LUNCH AT MY DESK SO ITS 10 HOURS SOLID AT MY DESK..THIS IS WHY THEY CALL IT'SICKNESS AND IN HEALTH'SHE'S ONLY 38 YRS OLD..
really sorry Steve. Thoughts are with you and your Family.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2014, 01:01:50 PM
This is rough. Your wife is lucky she has you to help her and to take care of the kids while she cannot. Too bad the family isn't on the same page with you. Can you take family medical leave from your job? If you are unaware of this, here is a link to some more information about it: http://employment.findlaw.com/family-medical-leave/family-and-medical-leave-act.html?DCMP=GOO-EMP_FMLA-States&HBX_PK=family+medical+leave+act+new+york (http://employment.findlaw.com/family-medical-leave/family-and-medical-leave-act.html?DCMP=GOO-EMP_FMLA-States&HBX_PK=family+medical+leave+act+new+york).

I cannot imagine the stress this must be putting on both you and your wife. If the family is going to be more of a pain than a help, it might be better to hire some help. Sometimes medical insurance will help cover the cost.

Both my wife and I have sciatica caused by spinal arthritis or spinal degeneration. Margie is seeing a spine doctor later this week to discuss her options. I have been dealing with my sciatica for a couple of years. Once physical therapy is done for my knee, I will also look into what I can do to relieve the sciatica. Mine is cause by arthritis while my wife has at least 4 discs while have no cushion left at all. She is not healthy enough for surgery so she will be limited to steroid injections. This might be the way I'd prefer to go too....at least at first. Of course, both my wife and I have this condition because we are old and because some of our parts are wearing out.  :(

Hang in there Steve. You're a strong man....and I'm not talking about your muscles. Your wife is very blessed to have you to help her get through this. If you can, ignore the meddling family folks and don't let them get to you. Arguing just adds to both you and your wife's stress levels and that won't help her heal. Stress is not good.
AT THE END OF THE DAY YOUR KIND WORDS DO MATTER AND MAKE SENSE,I WILL TRY MY HARDEST TO KEEP MY TEMPER IN CHECK AND DO WHAT I CAN THIS WAS MY DAY YESTERDAY AND COULD CHANGE FOR A BIT 'THANKFULLY I HAVE DECENT HOME GYM TO SNEAK TO OK READY..

LEGS
SQUAT 135/225/275/315/365/405 12/12/10/10/8/6
LEG PRESS 5/6/7 PLATES12/10/8/  PULL OF BACK TO 5 PLATES 10 MORE
WALKING LUNGES 50 LBS WALK X2
LEG EXTENSIONS 220/230/235

HAMS
SLDL DBELLS  60/70/85
LYING LEG CURLS 140/155/155

CALVES HACK SQUAT CALF RAISE X4
SEATED CALF RAISE X3

THEN
FOOD SHOPPED
COOKED DINNER FOR 5 ,RAVIOLI'2 KINDS'MADE ZUCCHINNI/RED PEPPERS IN OLIVE OIL/GARLIC/PEPPER USED THAT AS TOPPING ON BREAD I TOASTED IN OVEN THEN TOPPED WITH TOPPING AND MOZZARELLA BACK IN OVER ,SALAD,WINE,

3 LOADS LAUNDRY AND FOLDED LOL..

TOOK ALL ORNAMENTS WITH HELP OF KIDS OFF TREE,THEY SPLIT,ALL OTHER CHRISTMAS STUFF PACKED ,BROUGHT TREE OUTSIDE ,AND THEN VACUMMED THOUSANDS  :'( NEEDLES.

I WAS DONE AT 1140 PM  TO BED,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2014, 01:06:31 PM
Steve you are a good Man.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 06, 2014, 01:36:19 PM
Steve you are a good Man.

X2......What Donny said!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Kurt on January 06, 2014, 03:10:43 PM
As Prime stated, calmer heads prevail...... Your in-laws'
"should" respect your home is your castle, but as you realize, many may not. Don't let this get in the way of your wife's recovery.
Hang in there, help her recover, and hit the weights for a sanity check.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2014, 03:31:11 PM
As Prime stated, calmer heads prevail...... Your in-laws'
"should" respect your home is your castle, but as you realize, many may not. Don't let this get in the way of your wife's recovery.
Hang in there, help her recover, and hit the weights for a sanity check.
you know when i first met my wife, my Mother in law started saying bad things about me. It started very early on and i can only say Steve you are not alone. Remember when i was 21 and future wife(were not married then but i was living in camp and at my future inlaws) was high pregnant and my now brother in law got out of order to my wife. I told him to calm down then i was going to Punch him because he really got loud. I said get outside and he run away behind his parents. they never forgot this. i showed him up to be a Coward. I think all you can do is be firm with your inlaws. Your wife will of course be cought inbetween but believe me she loves you and will find a COMPRIMISE between you and her parents.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 06, 2014, 04:15:20 PM
My mother was a total pain in the ass and my wife's father was no better. One of the main reasons my wife and I moved to Oregon from California was to get away from our parents. The joke ended up being on us when after my step-dad died, because my ailing mother moved to Oregon to live with us the last three years of her life. It was a weird experience for all. Try though she did, we would not allow her to take over our house and family. It was also a strange upside down thing to be taking care of my mother instead of her me.

I'd left home on my 18th birthday to get away from her dominating personality and the constant ridicule. When she came to live with us, we were looking after her. Emphysema robs the brain of oxygen. She was no longer the tyrant she'd once been. There were days when she was totally out of her mind.....like off in some other place. I actually liked her better as a senile old lady. It was still weird though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2014, 04:54:46 PM
My mother was a total pain in the ass and my wife's father was no better. One of the main reasons my wife and I moved to Oregon from California was to get away from our parents. The joke ended up being on us when after my step-dad died, because my ailing mother moved to Oregon to live with us the last three years of her life. It was a weird experience for all. Try though she did, we would not allow her to take over our house and family. It was also a strange upside down thing to be taking care of my mother instead of her me.

I'd left home on my 18th birthday to get away from her dominating personality and the constant ridicule. When she came to live with us, we were looking after her. Emphysema robs the brain of oxygen. She was no longer the tyrant she'd once been. There were days when she was totally out of her mind.....like off in some other place. I actually liked her better as a senile old lady. It was still weird though.
life is like nature..beautiful but hard.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2014, 08:25:38 PM
thanks for the comments,,its only her mother ,her father passed lon ago but they were divorced anyway ,i never met him.i made use of home gym fully did real chest/tri /abs i used machine press wise fully ,stack is pretty heavy got to almost stack it on chest press,,

chest
sit uppress x4 wide grip set 15-10 lowest rep range
did side handles press grip is up and down style grip supersetted with flat flyes 45 lbers x3 great pump
i do this one occasionally wez/donny might like incline db but i alternate press then i do a flye and so on tough after 5 of each your gassed
try them,45 ers on theses great pump..press then at top go and do flye and then press back and flye..
decline presses 2 x15
finished with pushups x20 with handles and feet elevated so i was declining face down nice finish..

tris
pushdowns x3
reverse pushdowns x3
lying db tri extensions x3
cable kick backs x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2014, 08:40:39 PM
old contest pics  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2014, 08:41:20 PM
few more..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2014, 08:43:23 PM
legs :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 07, 2014, 02:51:54 AM
Steve you should have BLUE STARS....... how about it Ronald McDonald?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 07, 2014, 06:39:22 AM
Steve you should have BLUE STARS....... how about it Ronald McDonald?

Agreed.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 07, 2014, 07:14:52 AM
legs :D

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=447319.0;attach=549479;image)

This is one of your best shots, props!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 07, 2014, 07:31:36 AM
for what?past glory..still lift cause I enjoy it,and keeping myself in great shape at 45 is more rewarding in the end,that was the early years when nothing was going on but gym,dieting,and thinking about the gym all day long,,more gratifying the way I have maintained my build with long work days,3 kids and usual craziness in life...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 07, 2014, 09:28:40 AM
Back and Tris

3iu Humatrope/100mg Tren Ace/ 50mg Mast P/40mg T-bol

Hammer Superman Rows 3 sets
Life Fitness row 3 different grips 3 sets
Single handle 2 arm seated rows 3 sets
Straight arm pull downs 3 sets
One arm pull downs 3 sets

DB extensions on the floor 4 sets
V-grip pushdowns with drop on 3rd set
Machine Dips 3 sets
Rope extensions 2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2014, 09:53:42 AM
for what?past glory..still lift cause I enjoy it,and keeping myself in great shape at 45 is more rewarding in the end,that was the early years when nothing was going on but gym,dieting,and thinking about the gym all day long,,more gratifying the way I have maintained my build with long work days,3 kids and usual craziness in life...

Blue stars are for folks who are or have been competitive bodybuilders. This is why you deserve blue stars Steve. For a lifetime of being fit, you earn gold stars which are worth much more in my book.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 07, 2014, 07:09:17 PM
relaxed shot/semi'crab'pose..unpumped .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 07, 2014, 07:46:22 PM
Great pics Steve......if I were you,I would think about doing a local Masters Class contest!  ;)

Maintained an awesome physique throughout the years brother.......not an easy task,especially with kids at home.

Props!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 07, 2014, 07:47:28 PM
I got back in the gym for legs today....first time in over 2 weeks.

will start posting here with you "mature" men tomorrow!!  ;)

TRAIN HARD!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 07, 2014, 07:51:49 PM
Great pics Steve......if I were you,I would think about doing a local Masters Class contest!  ;)

Maintained an awesome physique throughout the years brother.......not an easy task,especially with kids at home.

Props!!
thanks jersey has some good shows..my training is on point..just have to get through wifes healing back op,,so training at home as well and i move around and pump decent weight at home nothing like i use in gym,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 07, 2014, 11:05:41 PM
so today another old School Blaster.... ;D

Power cleans
deadlifts
chins
rows
Parallel Bar Dips

sets will be 3-4 for the most but Dips i will do 5 sets....wait and see. cleans i have not done in Ages but i liked the clean and press. some of These old School powerlifting moves are fairly complex in nature and i must admit i am no master of them. i am sure guys like oltimer1 would correct me in my lifts. Kick my ass... ;D still enjoying my Change of training.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 08, 2014, 12:14:38 AM
Great pics Steve......if I were you,I would think about doing a local Masters Class contest!  ;)

Maintained an awesome physique throughout the years brother.......not an easy task,especially with kids at home.

Props!!

Steve, you are he man! Darn, you are the epitome of all of us wannabes wish we could be.

Today was my last physical therapy session, There are no more excuses for me (particularly my wheels) but the rest of my magnificence is now under the microscope too since I can no longer hide behind my fucked up knee. Not to speak too soon, but this old (ancient) fart Is planning to give you comparatively speaking, young bucks a  run for your money.

Steve, you are my hero (no homo).
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 08, 2014, 04:05:22 AM
OK yesterdays workout........keep in mind that I hadn`t trained in over 2 weeks and haven`t squatted other than for one brief period in at least 6-7 years.

Lying Leg Sled:
6 plates-20
8 plates-15
10 plates-12

Leg Extensions:
70-15
90-12
80-12

Barbell Squats:
100-12
135-12
165-12
)^^^^ easing back into them and I will never go over 225 again in my life...........my lower back is ruined)

Lying Leg Curls:
50-20
70-12
90-10
80-12

Hyperextensions:
1X20 - (bodyweight)

Cybex Seated Leg Press Calf Raise:
5 sets to failure pyramiding up in weight,then back down to the original starting poundage.

MY LEGS ARE KILLING ME THIS MORNING!!!!    :'(

Feels good to have trained though after 2 weeks of eating crap and just relaxing/loafing!  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 08, 2014, 05:00:55 AM
OK yesterdays workout........keep in mind that I hadn`t trained in over 2 weeks and haven`t squatted other than for one brief period in at least 6-7 years.

Lying Leg Sled:
6 plates-20
8 plates-15
10 plates-12

Leg Extensions:
70-15
90-12
80-12

Barbell Squats:
100-12
135-12
165-12
)^^^^ easing back into them and I will never go over 225 again in my life...........my lower back is ruined)

Lying Leg Curls:
50-20
70-12
90-10
80-12

Hyperextensions:
1X20 - (bodyweight)

Cybex Seated Leg Press Calf Raise:
5 sets to failure pyramiding up in weight,then back down to the original starting poundage.

MY LEGS ARE KILLING ME THIS MORNING!!!!    :'(

Feels good to have trained though after 2 weeks of eating crap and just relaxing/loafing!  ;)

nice wes,,volume trainer like me,,,good weights moving on the 'sled'squats and heavy ham curls,sldl's I go very heavy still,guess that's why I still have tree trunks lol,,,I like the splits in my legs more than the sheer mass,still squatting 405 and stiff legged 225/275..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 08, 2014, 05:26:19 AM
Steve, you are he man! Darn, you are the epitome of all of us wannabes whish we could be.

Today was my last physical therapy session, There are no more excuses for me (particularly my wheels) but the rest of my magnificence is now under the microscope too since I can no longer hide behind my fucked up knee. Not to speak too soon, but this old (ancient) fart Is planning to give you comparatively speaking, young bucks a  run for your money.

Steve, you are my hero (no homo).

THANKS FOR THE KIND WORDS,,I LOVE TO TRAIN,THE BUILD IS GENETIC AS U TRAIN  ,THE GENETICS DICTATE THE REST..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 08, 2014, 06:16:26 AM
Really enjoyed the power cleans and then cardio on a bike in the Gym. Better for my knee at the Moment.. no running
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 08, 2014, 06:47:46 AM
Really enjoyed the power cleans and then cardio on a bike in the Gym. Better for my knee at the Moment.. no running
KNEE ISSUE?MINE CLEAR ON NON LEG DAYS THEN IT GETS SORE DURING TRAINING A BIT ,,BUT I'M GETTING BY OK,,STILL STRONG..I HOPE ITS NOT WEARING DOWN THO..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 08, 2014, 07:36:44 AM
KNEE ISSUE?MINE CLEAR ON NON LEG DAYS THEN IT GETS SORE DURING TRAINING A BIT ,,BUT I'M GETTING BY OK,,STILL STRONG..I HOPE ITS NOT WEARING DOWN THO..
nothing too bad but had a bit of pain .. just was better to use the bike and it feels better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 08, 2014, 08:14:00 AM
nice wes,,volume trainer like me,,,good weights moving on the 'sled'squats and heavy ham curls,sldl's I go very heavy still,guess that's why I still have tree trunks lol,,,I like the splits in my legs more than the sheer mass,still squatting 405 and stiff legged 225/275..
Thanks bro,usually after a rare layoff,I`d come back using heavy weights and not be able to move for an entire week.

Playing it smart for once and starting out light and easing back up to my regular poundages.

Judging by the soreness in my quads,glutes,hams,and calves,that light weight was all that I needed so far!

I`m a hurtin` unit!  :(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 08, 2014, 08:16:02 AM
Thanks bro,usually after a rare layoff,I`d come back using heavy weights and not be able to move for an entire week.

Playing it smart for once and starting out light and easing back up to my regular poundages.

Judging by the soreness in my quads,glutes,hams,and calves,that light weight was all that I needed so far!

I`m a hurtin` unit!  :(
8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 08, 2014, 08:20:32 AM
Today,I did Chest + Back............Super-Setted them since I started on Tuesday instead of my normal Monday leg day,so I`m losing a day this week,so gotta` combine bodyparts on at least one day this week, as I don`t train on weekends unless preppping for a show.

Super-Set # 1:
{Smith Inclines:
115-15
135-12
150-10
{Pulldowns:
9 plates-12
10 plates-12
10 plates-12

Super-Set # 2:
{Cybex Seated Bench Press Machine:
7 plates-12
8 plates-10
8 plates-10
{Cybex Seated Rowing Machine:
7 plates-12
8 plates-12
8 plates-12

Super-Set # 3:
{Flyes:
1 X 15 reps with the 35 pounders
{Dumbell Pullovers:
1 X 12 with a 55 pound dumbell

Short and sweet,light weight of course until ready to increase,and very little rest at all.

It feels great to be back in the gym.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 08, 2014, 08:45:55 AM
Today,I did Chest + Back............Super-Setted them since I started on Tuesday instead of my normal Monday leg day,so I`m losing a day this week,so gotta` combine bodyparts on at least one day this week, as I don`t train on weekends unless preppping for a show.

Super-Set # 1:
{Smith Inclines:
115-15
135-12
150-10
{Pulldowns:
9 plates-12
10 plates-12
10 plates-12

Super-Set # 2:
{Cybex Seated Bench Press Machine:
7 plates-12
8 plates-10
8 plates-10
{Cybex Seated Rowing Machine:
7 plates-12
8 plates-12
8 plates-12

Super-Set # 3:
{Flyes:
1 X 15 reps with the 35 pounders
{Dumbell Pullovers:
1 X 12 with a 55 pound dumbell

Short and sweet,light weight of course until ready to increase,and very little rest at all.

It feels great to be back in the gym.
I like supersetting/trisets,chest /back is old school Arnold,,nice wes..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 08, 2014, 09:01:58 AM
Agree Steve ...supersets are great ...chest+back  I like too. Afterwards you feel like king Kong !!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 08, 2014, 09:32:20 AM
Alright Wes my old ass was dragging today
Delts/Traps....shoulder killing me. Not the one I had surgery on the other fucking one now.

3ius Humatrope/40mg T-Bol

One arm cable laterals in front 2 sets
One arm cable laterals from back 2 sets
Rear  crossovers 2 sets
DB laterals 20/25/30/35/40 45/35/25/15( drop set)
Rear cable crossovers 2 sets
DB upright rows ss DB front raises 3 sets
Pulls to the face 3 sets

Tried to Shrug...hurt to much. No pressing today either. Got to know when to fold them. Ken
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Kurt on January 08, 2014, 10:48:56 AM
Thanks bro,usually after a rare layoff,I`d come back using heavy weights and not be able to move for an entire week.

Playing it smart for once and starting out light and easing back up to my regular poundages.

Judging by the soreness in my quads,glutes,hams,and calves,that light weight was all that I needed so far!

I`m a hurtin` unit!  :(

I can never come back to doing heavy squats after a layoff.
Whenever that would happen, I could barely climb stairs for a few days...lol.
Good to see you are back in the gym. Do you have a show you are planning this year?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on January 08, 2014, 05:09:03 PM
whole body workout:


squats  3 sets

one arm rows  3 sets

incline smith 3 sets

side laterals 3 sets

serge nubret laterals  3 sets

hammer curls  3 sets

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 08, 2014, 06:47:32 PM
back/bi's/abs

pulldowns behind neck x4

incline face down db rows x4

single arm lower cable row x3

standup pulldown to waist x3

wide bar upper back row  standing pull bar to chest/hold x3

bi's
tri set 4x around curl bar curls/across the body hammers/inc db curls

abs weighted and non weighted leg lifts old school lying on bench stretched arms under pads..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Kurt on January 08, 2014, 06:54:28 PM
Chest and Biceps workout tonight.

3 sets each, pyramiding higher in weight and lower in reps.

incline db press

dips

machine flyes

seated hammer curls

standing db curls

To be honest, it's a challenge watching the diet. I am taking some
advice I read on the board, and eating 4-5 meals each day with
chicken breast, brown rice, and veggies. And of course, lots of water.  

I substitute country fresh eggs instead of chicken for breakfast, and add an apple instead of veggies. I add a banana an hour or so before working out.

A grilled ribeye steak is still in the works once a week. And a big plate of spaghetti as well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 08, 2014, 11:35:09 PM
well today no weight Training but i will hit the bike or cross Trainer after work... itīs just got to be done ;D. I feel great today, the Dips,deads, power cleans...really hit it all. after the power cleans i have to admit my chin ups were harder.. my forearms were pumped up and believe it or not my calfes... i have to say in my upper back today i have muscle pain( the good Kind) so it did make a diffrence doing power cleans.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 09, 2014, 05:48:40 AM
well today no weight Training but i will hit the bike or cross Trainer after work... itīs just got to be done ;D. I feel great today, the Dips,deads, power cleans...really hit it all. after the power cleans i have to admit my chin ups were harder.. my forearms were pumped up and believe it or not my calfes... i have to say in my upper back today i have muscle pain( the good Kind) so it did make a diffrence doing power cleans.
8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2014, 07:15:56 AM
whole body workout:


squats  3 sets

one arm rows  3 sets

incline smith 3 sets

side laterals 3 sets

serge nubret laterals  3 sets

hammer curls  3 sets


nice... i beasted myself Today after work in the Gym on the cross Trainer. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 09, 2014, 10:42:54 AM
Legs Abs

3iu Humatrope/250 Galenika Test/100 TrenA/50 Mast P/40 T-bol

All exercise today performed Ergo style....slow up and slow down

Leg Extensions 5 sets
Lying Leg Curls 5 sets
Front Squats 5 sets
Seated Calf raises 5 sets
Kneeling rope Abs 5 sets

Difficult workout today....a good friend of mine lost his 23 year old Son last night to a car accident. I can't imagine the grief of losing a child. Losing my Father was hard enough. Ken
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 09, 2014, 11:02:39 AM
Legs Abs

3iu Humatrope/250 Galenika Test/100 TrenA/50 Mast P/40 T-bol

All exercise today performed Ergo style....slow up and slow down

Leg Extensions 5 sets
Lying Leg Curls 5 sets
Front Squats 5 sets
Seated Calf raises 5 sets
Kneeling rope Abs 5 sets

Difficult workout today....a good friend of mine lost his 23 year old Son last night to a car accident. I can't imagine the grief of losing a child. Losing my Father was hard enough. Ken
:-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Kurt on January 09, 2014, 11:44:31 AM
Legs Abs

3iu Humatrope/250 Galenika Test/100 TrenA/50 Mast P/40 T-bol

All exercise today performed Ergo style....slow up and slow down

Leg Extensions 5 sets
Lying Leg Curls 5 sets
Front Squats 5 sets
Seated Calf raises 5 sets
Kneeling rope Abs 5 sets

Difficult workout today....a good friend of mine lost his 23 year old Son last night to a car accident. I can't imagine the grief of losing a child. Losing my Father was hard enough. Ken

No parent should ever lose a child. I have 2 sons, and I can't even imagine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 09, 2014, 11:51:36 AM
No parent should ever lose a child. I have 2 sons, and I can't even imagine.

I am having a hard time wrapping my head around it. I drove over my daughter's house just to give her and the my grandson a hug.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 09, 2014, 01:53:53 PM
No parent should ever lose a child. I have 2 sons, and I can't even imagine.

I agree. Losing a child would be the hardest thing to endure. As parents, we don't expect to outlive our children.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Kurt on January 09, 2014, 02:44:51 PM
Prime,

Now that rehab is done, do you have a plan for getting back to training?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 09, 2014, 05:50:01 PM
Considering the subject, I will not chuckle and correct your last sentence. I know what you mean.

Now that rehab is done, do you have a plan for getting back to training?

Thanks for catching my error. I used to be better about proof reading my posts here. Seems I have become a bit lazy. I fixed the post in question.

As for getting back to training; yes I do plan on doing this. I will start out slowly and hope to begin hitting the gym next week at least three times. I'd go this week but we have company here through Sunday. I know, there is always something. I'm no Steve, soldiering on regardless of what else is going on in my life.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 09, 2014, 07:28:29 PM
prime will be back,,,got to...

delts @gym 2 home training days is enough..

warmed side raises hard 20/25's 12/12 then 2 sets 30/25/20 10 reps each drops was cooking after this
front press 135 x12/155x10/165x8,,,drop finish 165/145/135 all till failure
cable bent over laterals x3
cable uprights x3
wes movement...behind back cable side raise x2 finish sets 12

shrugs on lying chest machine 'hammer'2 plates x20/3x14/4x15/5x12..then 4/3/2 drop 10 reps per traps were done..

forarms weighted rope rolls up/down/upx3
reverse wrist curls cable x4

calves 5 sets 12-15 calf raises 180/200/220/240/240


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 10, 2014, 02:13:06 AM
Thursday January 9th.

Shoulders,Abs,Neck:

Shoulders:
Seated Press On Machine:
3 plates-20
5 plates-12
4 plates-12
4 plates-12

Laterals Behind Back:
15-20
20-15
17.5-15

Gironda Dumbell Swings:
1 X 30 with the 12 pounders

Super-Set:
{Cable Bent-Over Laterals:
2 plates-3 X 12
{Face Pulls:
4 plates-3 X 15

Abs:
Crunches:
3 X failure

Neck:
Nautilus 4-Way Neck Machine:
1 X various high reps,in each of the 4 positions
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2014, 02:17:18 AM
Today will be ....

Squats 4-5 sets
Bench press 4-5 sets
Military press 4-5 sets
BB curls 4-5 sets
ABS: 100 leg raises off Bench

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2014, 02:18:35 AM
Thursday January 9th.

Shoulders,Abs,Neck:

Shoulders:
Seated Press On Machine:
3 plates-20
5 plates-12
4 plates-12
4 plates-12

Laterals Behind Back:
15-20
20-15
17.5-15

Gironda Dumbell Swings:
1 X 30 with the 12 pounders

Super-Set:
{Cable Bent-Over Laterals:
2 plates-3 X 12
{Face Pulls:
4 plates-3 X 15

Abs:
Crunches:
3 X failure

Neck:
Nautilus 4-Way Neck Machine:
1 X various high reps,in each of the 4 positions

Gironda DB swings i have never really got into but if they work they work !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 10, 2014, 08:12:57 AM
I like to use them just as a type of finishing exercise Donny.

I have gone quite heavy on them in the past, but they killed my shoulders.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 10, 2014, 08:14:30 AM
Alright Wes my old ass was dragging today
Delts/Traps....shoulder killing me. Not the one I had surgery on the other fucking one now.

3ius Humatrope/40mg T-Bol

One arm cable laterals in front 2 sets
One arm cable laterals from back 2 sets
Rear  crossovers 2 sets
DB laterals 20/25/30/35/40 45/35/25/15( drop set)
Rear cable crossovers 2 sets
DB upright rows ss DB front raises 3 sets
Pulls to the face 3 sets

Tried to Shrug...hurt to much. No pressing today either. Got to know when to fold them. Ken
I hear ya` Ken,always better to play it safe and live to fight another day.

I hope it`s nothing too serious my friend!!  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 10, 2014, 08:16:45 AM
I`ve got a lot of catching up to do in this thread,but reading through it so far,we are getting older,but we still have what I call animalistic characteristics!!

Keep at it guys,that son of a bitch "Father Time" is relentless, but he`s getting the shit kicked out of him in this thread!  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 10, 2014, 08:53:12 AM
Biceps/Triceps:

Super-Set # 1:
{Barbell Curls:
65-10
75-10
85-10
{Skullcrushers:
60-15
70-15
70-15

Super-Set # 2:
{Hammer Curls:
3 X 10 with the 30 pounders
{Bent-forward Cable Extensions:
3 X 20 with 7 plates

Super-Set # 1:
{Cable Preacher Curls:
2 X 12 with 4 plates
{Pressdowns:
5 plates-20
6 plates-15

Forearms:

Tri-Set:
{Reverse Cable Curls:
3 x 12 with 4 plates
{Wrist Curls:
3 x 20 with 50 pounds
{Reverse Wrist Curls:
3 X 20 with 25 pounds

Adding more weight and more volume to everything next week.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 10, 2014, 09:16:15 AM
NICE STUFF DUDES...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 10, 2014, 09:23:00 AM
Arm Day
3iu Seros/40mg T-bol

All sets done slow Ergo Style

Barbell Preacher Curls 4 sets 40/50/60/70
DB Preacher Curls 2 sets 35/40
Rope Curls 3 sets
Alternate DB curls 3 sets 35/40/45

Pushdowns ss overhead extensions 3X15
Reverse pushdowns ss machine dips 3 sets
Rope pushdowns 3 sets drop on last

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2014, 01:27:21 PM
I like to use them just as a type of finishing exercise Donny.

I have gone quite heavy on them in the past, but they killed my shoulders.
I must admit at the Moment iīm just Training really simple with Basics but i like it. before summer iīll hit my favourite split of Chest+back....Shoulders+arms....legs...... great to have guys on here like you with lots of experience.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 10, 2014, 02:05:47 PM
I must admit at the Moment iīm just Training really simple with Basics but i like it. before summer iīll hit my favourite split of Chest+back....Shoulders+arms....legs...... great to have guys on here like you with lots of experience.

You're too kind and too modest too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2014, 04:03:00 PM
You're too kind and too modest too.
  ;D maybe Jay...iīm in reality a very private Person.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Kurt on January 11, 2014, 01:07:18 PM
Last night was a really good traps and back workout.

Traps

Barbell Shrugs 3 sets

Behind the Back Smith Machine Shrugs 3 Sets

Back

Medium Width Pulldowns 3 Sets

Dumbell Rows 3 Sets

Magnum Biangular Pulldowns 3 Sets. I really like this movement,
as it starts narrow grip, and works wider while going through the
range of movement. It is similar to performing a double bicep pose, but weighted.

As usual, I pyramided the sets, increasing in weight, and decreasing reps. I really focused on slightly arching my back, and squeezing at the bottom of each rep. This is the most effective way I have found to hit the lower lats as well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 11, 2014, 01:13:45 PM
Alright fellow older gentleman..I have decided to train 5 0n 2 off. My arms weren't recovering Sunday from Friday

Sun Chest/Biceps
Mon Legs/Abs
Tue Back/Triceps
Wed Delts/Traps
Thu Arms
Fri off
Sat off

This hits big parts once a week and arms twice a week. Ken
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Kurt on January 11, 2014, 01:24:14 PM
Alright fellow older gentleman..I have decided to train 5 0n 2 off. My arms weren't recovering Sunday from Friday

Sun Chest/Biceps
Mon Legs/Abs
Tue Back/Triceps
Wed Delts/Traps
Thu Arms
Fri off
Sat off

This hits big parts once a week and arms twice a week. Ken


Sounds like a solid plan. Give it 6-7 weeks and see how it works out for you. Normally, I would suggest putting one of your off days between Legs and Back days, since they are the biggest muscle groups? But, your regimen suggests you are prioritizing arms. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 11, 2014, 02:15:03 PM
Sounds like a solid plan. Give it 6-7 weeks and see how it works out for you. Normally, I would suggest putting one of your off days between Legs and Back days, since they are the biggest muscle groups? But, your regimen suggests you are prioritizing arms. 

Yes...I am strictly about vanity at this point....I want to cruise around the pool at the over 55 retirement community.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 11, 2014, 02:22:23 PM
Yes...I am strictly about vanity at this point....I want to cruise around the pool at the over 55 retirement community.  ;D

Do you mean cruise the hot older chicks at the pool?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 11, 2014, 02:23:31 PM
Do you mean cruise the hot older chicks at the pool?

Yes although my wife frowns upon me dating ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 11, 2014, 02:25:11 PM
Yes although my wife frowns upon me dating ;D

Yeah, I get it. My wife says it is okay for me to look at other women as long as I don't touch them. This is a good thing, since I wouldn't know how to avoid looking.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Kurt on January 11, 2014, 02:41:39 PM
Yes...I am strictly about vanity at this point....I want to cruise around the pool at the over 55 retirement community.  ;D

Yes.... Solid plan.... ;D

Women of all ages appreciate attention as well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 11, 2014, 02:43:39 PM
Yes.... Solid plan.... ;D

Women of all ages appreciate attention as well.

Thanks....not a lot of competition for me either....I like the odds. Although if any of those old fat dudes start bugging my wife.........well I!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 11, 2014, 02:45:00 PM
Thanks....not a lot of competition for me either....I like the odds. Although if any of those old fat dudes start bugging my wife.........well I!

Ah come on, a lady likes to have some fun too. Let the guys flirt with your wife. It will make her day!  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 11, 2014, 02:46:52 PM
Ah come on, a lady likes to have some fun too. Let the guys flirt with your wife. It will make her day!  ;D

OK fair is fair!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: O.Z. on January 11, 2014, 07:28:09 PM
Have not seen this ' old farts' thread before, happy to join discussions even though I am only 47 years young. :D
Cheers fellas, will take part in posting here as well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 11, 2014, 08:22:08 PM
Glad to have you we have from 45 on up to ? 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 11, 2014, 08:48:47 PM
Have not seen this ' old farts' thread before, happy to join discussions even though I am only 47 years young. :D
Cheers fellas, will take part in posting here as well.
as wez stated 45 plus,i'm45...

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2014, 01:55:17 AM
Have not seen this ' old farts' thread before, happy to join discussions even though I am only 47 years young. :D
Cheers fellas, will take part in posting here as well.
iīm 47 too...  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 12, 2014, 08:02:01 AM
Chest and Biceps
3iu Humatrope/40mg T-bol

Incline DB Flies 3X15X30 slow reps
Flat bench DB Presses 3X15X50
Hammer Incline 3x15x 2 plates each side
Decline BB Press 185X15 205X12 225X10

EZ bar cable curls 2X15X50
Hammer curls 2X15X40
One arm machine preacher 2X15X60
60 sec close grip chin up 2 reps
Concentration hammer curl 2X15X20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 12, 2014, 10:19:42 AM
as wez stated 45 plus,i'm45...



Are you saying your the baby of the thread? At 69, I am probably the grandpa. Anyone posting here who is older than 69?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 12, 2014, 10:26:51 AM
Are you saying your the baby of the thread? At 69, I am probably the grandpa. Anyone posting here who is older than 69?

I think you are the winner Sir.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 12, 2014, 10:39:58 AM
I think you are the winner Sir.

If that is the case, I have a responsibility to get my ass back in the gym on a regular basis so folks here will know that we are never too old to exercise. Clarence, who also works out at the same gym I do is 10 years older than me. He has better biceps than me too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 12, 2014, 10:42:47 AM
If that is the case, I have a responsibility to get my ass back in the gym on a regular basis so folks here will know that we are never too old to exercise. Clarence, who also works out at the same gym I do is 10 years older than me. He has better biceps than me too.

My Mother is 77 and she still hit's the gym 4 days a week. Still leg presses 2 plates on each side. Shows me I don't have to slow down.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2014, 11:13:17 AM
so tonight i did some Cardio on the Bike. Gym was full , well expected after Christmas. Tomorrow iīm off so can sleep longer and get a good workout in.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 12, 2014, 11:17:25 AM
I thought I was going to the gym last Friday for my first post physical therapy workout, but my wife is sick and we had company, so I stayed home. The company left just a few minutes ago and my wife went right back to bed. I think I'd better stay around the house today so I am close by when she needs something.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 12, 2014, 11:19:51 AM
so tonight i did some Cardio on the Bike. Gym was full , well expected after Christmas. Tomorrow iīm off so can sleep longer and get a good workout in.

This gives me an idea. I am stuck at home taking care of my wife, but I could rearrange some things in the garage so that I can use the treadmill. I am not ready to run yet, but I could manage a fast walk for a half hour or so, getting in some cardio.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2014, 11:20:44 AM
I thought I was going to the gym last Friday for my first post physical therapy workout, but my wife is sick and we had company, so I stayed home. The company left just a few minutes ago and my wife went right back to bed. I think I'd better stay around the house today so I am close by when she needs something.
yes Jay...she is more important. why not get some home Training kit. Ok you have a running machine but maybe a fairly decent Multi gym...like Steve. I am glad i have my Home Gym and i alternate with Gym workouts.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 12, 2014, 11:38:51 AM
yes Jay...she is more important. why not get some home Training kit. Ok you have a running machine but maybe a fairly decent Multi gym...like Steve. I am glad i have my Home Gym and i alternate with Gym workouts.

I could do that. Of course I'd need to give up one stall in the garage and workout in sweats because it is cold as heck in the garage this time of year.

Our daughter, son-in-law and grandson are moving back in with us the first of February. All the bedrooms will be taken so I cannot set up a home gym in a bedroom. The good news is, our daughter will help me take care of Margie, which will facilitate my getting out more.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2014, 11:46:02 AM
I could do that. Of course I'd need to give up one stall in the garage and workout in sweats because it is cold as heck in the garage this time of year.

Our daughter, son-in-law and grandson are moving back in with us the first of February. All the bedrooms will be taken so I cannot set up a home gym in a bedroom. The good news is, our daughter will help me take care of Margie, which will facilitate my getting out more.
Good for you that your Family are together...sounds great.  I am lucky in that i work in a Gym and itīs only 1 street away...3 minutes and iīm there... ;D still if i feel the Need i can squat, Dip, chin at home.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 12, 2014, 11:48:15 AM
Good for you that your Family are together...sounds great.  I am lucky in that i work in a Gym and itīs only 1 street away...3 minutes and iīm there... ;D still if i feel the Need i can squat, Dip, chin at home.

Yeah, I have been doing a lot of weight free exercising at home lately. It's all good. I was looking forward to hitting the gym and the weights though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2014, 11:50:57 AM
Thinking about it now all i really should have got is a Bar, power rack and bench. I have Dip stands,squat stands, bench , chinning Station,leg Extension/curl bench, preacher bench, sit up bench and all the other stuff like ez bar.....and and and....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Kurt on January 12, 2014, 12:50:59 PM
yes Jay...she is more important. why not get some home Training kit. Ok you have a running machine but maybe a fairly decent Multi gym...like Steve. I am glad i have my Home Gym and i alternate with Gym workouts.

A Multi-station gym is a great idea for when you can't make it to the gym. I picked up one in perfect condition off craigslist a few years ago. I happened to get this one free, but I have seen nicer ones very cheap. I still look for the elusive seated and standing calf machines so I can throw in an extra calf workout on the opposite end of the week from my leg and calf day.
Prime... Good to see you still earning your gold stars at 69. I am 48, and hope to be earning my gold stars for many years. I quit competing in the early 90's, but still enjoy training as much as ever. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2014, 01:06:59 PM
Training is about being fit and Quality of life. I suppose we are all vain in a way but i like to be all round fit, also cardio.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Kurt on January 12, 2014, 01:49:06 PM
Training is about being fit and Quality of life. I suppose we are all vain in a way but i like to be all round fit, also cardio.

I couldn't have stated it better. My goals are to improve ( or at least try to maintain) aesthetically, but moreso, I want to be able to lead an active lifestyle such as hiking and mountain biking for a long time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2014, 01:56:03 PM
I couldn't have stated it better. My goals are to improve ( or at least try to maintain) aesthetically, but moreso, I want to be able to lead an active lifestyle such as hiking and mountain biking for a long time.
I live in a part of Germany that is flat. Hiking i would love to do. I used to go hill Walking in scotland with a good friend. I enjoyed the fresh air and it worked your cardio very well with a pack.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: O.Z. on January 12, 2014, 05:24:53 PM
I couldn't have stated it better. My goals are to improve ( or at least try to maintain) aesthetically, but moreso, I want to be able to lead an active lifestyle such as hiking and mountain biking for a long time.


It is all about improving. Once you improve physique, your mindset is improved as well. You feel more confident, more energetic and much younger.
I have been lifting on and off for years but was never serious about it as there was always an excuse for not making progress.
I was never worried about dieting or bodyfat levels until I saw this pic taken mid 2013. That was a wake up call for me.
With a motivation and a proper diet advice from Gal&NoOne I have decided to make drastic change and step up big time with my commitment.
6 months later and difference is noticeable. And I am motivated as I was never before. Once you commit yourself nothing can stop you and everything is possible.
I was never this lean in my life and now at age of 47 I feel the sky is limit.
Will outline my diet and training soon as well.
Cheers fellas.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 12, 2014, 05:26:10 PM
Shredding up nice Brother!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: O.Z. on January 12, 2014, 06:04:53 PM
Shredding up nice Brother!

Indeed Wez. I was anything between 25-30% bodyfat and currently at 10% (maybe less). Would like to go to 7-8% as I am interested to enter my first physique competition later this year.

This is all result of strict 1300-1500 calories diet and a lot of cardio.
I knew I had a bit of muscle under all this fat.

My typical daily food intake is like this:

meal 1-  2 boiled eggs, fresh capsicum or tomato and 200 grams of rare roast beef
meal 2-  steamed green veggies (150 grams) and 200-300 grams of tuna or salmon
meal 3-  fresh salad (fresh spinach&some other green salad) and 200 grams of chicken breast
snack between meal 2-3 would be something like few almonds and fruit yogurt
I have 5-6 cups of espresso a day (love coffee) and 2 teaspoons of peanut butter before gym session.
Plenty of water as well.
This is 6 days in a row and on seventh day I have about 3000-4000 calories mostly carbs and protein, no fat.

Supplements: I do not use gear, no protein powder (all my protein comes from solid food), multivitamins, magnesium, zinc, vitamin C

Spartan life, but well worth it once you see results. I feel great at this stage of my life.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 12, 2014, 07:26:32 PM
leg day wanted to get great pump and in 1 hr pushed it hard

super sets on order today..

leg press 4 plates per side and extensions 190 10/10
set 2,, 5 plates and 205 ext 10/10
set 3,, 6 plates and 210 ext 10/10
set 4 6 plates and 215 10/10

2nd group

hack squats 3 plates and walking lunges 12 steps per leg
set 2 4 plates and same lunges
set 3 ,,5 plates and same lunge
all hacks sets 10 reps

hams
superset sldl 135 x10 with leg curls 140 x10
set 2 185 x10and leg curl 150
set 3 225 x10 and leg curl 155
set 4 same above..

calves leg press calf raise x3
seated calf raise x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: O.Z. on January 12, 2014, 08:00:39 PM
leg day wanted to get great pump and in 1 hr pushed it hard

super sets on order today..

leg press 4 plates per side and extensions 190 10/10
set 2,, 5 plates and 205 ext 10/10
set 3,, 6 plates and 210 ext 10/10
set 4 6 plates and 215 10/10

2nd group

hack squats 3 plates and walking lunges 12 steps per leg
set 2 4 plates and same lunges
set 3 ,,5 plates and same lunge
all hacks sets 10 reps

hams
superset sldl 135 x10 with leg curls 140 x10
set 2 185 x10and leg curl 150
set 3 225 x10 and leg curl 155
set 4 same above..

calves leg press calf raise x3
seated calf raise x3

One thing I notice is your love with leg workouts.
And they are your best bodyparts. You have enough size and very good separation. Don't you think if you keep doing these workouts they are going to overpower your upper body?
By the way you looked great in your competition time. Have you ever used gear?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 12, 2014, 08:10:39 PM
One thing I notice is your love with leg workouts.
And they are your best bodyparts. You have enough size and very good separation. Don't you think if you keep doing these workouts they are going to overpower your upper body?
By the way you looked great in your competition time. Have you ever used gear?
1 yes..
2,yes and no
3 still balance but yeah i can see a bob paris thing he had great legs and could overpower his top
4 drugged,clean then real clean so good genetics to get contest tight
me this week pic wise..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on January 12, 2014, 08:31:42 PM
chest/bis/calves:


incline smith presses   5 sets

incline flyes   4 sets

cable crossovers  3 sets

hammer curls  6 sets

seated calf raises  6 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 13, 2014, 09:52:24 AM
chest/bis/calves:


incline smith presses   5 sets

incline flyes   4 sets

cable crossovers  3 sets

hammer curls  6 sets

seated calf raises  6 sets
Nice workout George ! :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 13, 2014, 10:08:21 AM
Quads,Hamstrings,Calves:

Quads:
Leg Press:
2 plates a side-20
3 plates a side-15
4 plates a side-12
5 plates a side-10
I could have done much more but still playing it safe after the long layoff.

I like walking too much to get too crazy too soon!  :)

Leg Extensions:
70-15
90-12
80-12

Squats:
135-10
170-10
185-8
These were easy peasy......went up 20 pounds since last week which was my first squatting session in years...........no lower back issues so far.

As I said,no squats in years now,doing them late in the workout so I won`t have to go too heavy and screw up my tricky back.

Hamstrings:
Lying Leg Curls:
50-20
80-12
70-12
60-15
50-15

Our Seated Leg Curls Machine has been broken for over a month now............next week,I`ll throw in Stiff-Legged Deads or Glute Ham Raises along with the leg curls.

Calves:
Leg Sled Calf Raise:
5 X failure

Cybex Rotary Calf Machine:
3 X failure

So far so good..........I`ll be adding more stuff next week as far as volume and exercises go.

I figure in 3-4 weeks,I`ll be back in top training form.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 13, 2014, 10:39:23 AM
Leg/Abs/Forearms

3iu Humatrope/250 Galenika Test/100 Tren A/50 Mast P/40 T-bol

Super slow Ergo reps

Lying leg curls 4 sets
Leg Extensions 4 sets
Leg Press 4 sets

Standing Calf 4 sets

Kneeling Rope Abs 4 sets

One arm high cable forearm curls 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on January 13, 2014, 11:13:27 AM
leg work:

leg extensions   5 sets

squats   3 sets

Romanian deadlifts  4 sets

seated calf raises  4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 13, 2014, 01:45:05 PM
I live in a part of Germany that is flat. Hiking i would love to do. I used to go hill Walking in scotland with a good friend. I enjoyed the fresh air and it worked your cardio very well with a pack.

My home is three blocks up from the highway and four blocks down from the top of our hill. The top of the hill is 800 feet above sea level and the bottom of the hill is probably 75 feet above sea level. The sign out front of our home reads 500 ft. No matter where you walk in my neighborhood, it is a hilly hike. I've seen people walking backwards when going down the hill. I've heard that this is less stressful on one's joints.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 13, 2014, 01:49:44 PM

It is all about improving. Once you improve physique, your mindset is improved as well. You feel more confident, more energetic and much younger.
I have been lifting on and off for years but was never serious about it as there was always an excuse for not making progress.
I was never worried about dieting or bodyfat levels until I saw this pic taken mid 2013. That was a wake up call for me.
With a motivation and a proper diet advice from Gal&NoOne I have decided to make drastic change and step up big time with my commitment.
6 months later and difference is noticeable. And I am motivated as I was never before. Once you commit yourself nothing can stop you and everything is possible.
I was never this lean in my life and now at age of 47 I feel the sky is limit.
Will outline my diet and training soon as well.
Cheers fellas.

Good job getting lean and fit O.Z. I am working on getting slimmer. This morning I weighed 194 lbs. My goal is to be 185 lbs. by summer with a 32" waist.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 13, 2014, 07:46:53 PM
chest 'home gym'

chest press side grip x4
inc db press/flye combo,, press then flye till failure x3 45/50's
fd press 60's x15 x2
decline db 50's x2 x15
flat flyes x2 50's x10
 3 sets decline pushups x20

tris
pushdowns x4
reverse pushdowns x3
3 sets db extensions lying  w/30's
2 ssets curl bar presses close grip x20

abs

couple pics bodyparts that don't show well in pics i post

forarms
front calf
side/rear calf
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 14, 2014, 04:09:39 AM

It is all about improving. Once you improve physique, your mindset is improved as well. You feel more confident, more energetic and much younger.
I have been lifting on and off for years but was never serious about it as there was always an excuse for not making progress.
I was never worried about dieting or bodyfat levels until I saw this pic taken mid 2013. That was a wake up call for me.
With a motivation and a proper diet advice from Gal&NoOne I have decided to make drastic change and step up big time with my commitment.
6 months later and difference is noticeable. And I am motivated as I was never before. Once you commit yourself nothing can stop you and everything is possible.
I was never this lean in my life and now at age of 47 I feel the sky is limit.
Will outline my diet and training soon as well.
Cheers fellas.
One of the best transformations I`ve ever seen,and I`ve seen some good ones.

Great job man,that`s true gritty determination and dedication right there.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 14, 2014, 04:10:49 AM
I CAN BARELY WALK THIS MORNING!!  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 14, 2014, 05:05:12 AM
I CAN BARELY WALK THIS MORNING!!  ;D

I am fine....back to the drawing board!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 14, 2014, 05:34:22 AM
holy kids toys in the backround on pic I posted lol,,,basement has everything...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2014, 06:19:40 AM
Today was ...

deadlifts
Bent over BB rows
chin ups
power cleans
parallel Bar Dips

afterwards a run in the Woods. enjoyed the fresh air. i feel tired and got a lot of work on tonight :( on top of that one of the Trainers iīm working with tonight is a real prick. i nearly knocked the geek out not Long ago. He is arogant and thinks he knows it all. the Gym Boss knows heīs a tool and a few women have complained about him. He is a guy who is all theory and no experience. He rides a bike and thatīs it. never seen him lift. i was doing some deads one time and he came over and gave me his comments so i told him to fuck off before i got upset. anyway i better not get my blood pressure up ;D.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2014, 07:12:07 AM
tell you what guys i don not feel too good at the mom. was really light headed and weird. Had a bit of chest pain too. i am not paranoid but my father had Heart attacks at my Age. maybe i better get a check up. Iīm never at the Doc but i felt really bad. Never felt like that before. Hope itīs not my time... :( My Father had to take a lot of pills ... never mind if it happens i hope itīs quick
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 14, 2014, 07:23:11 AM
tell you what guys i don not feel too good at the mom. was really light headed and weird. Had a bit of chest pain too. i am not paranoid but my father had Heart attacks at my Age. maybe i better get a check up. Iīm never at the Doc but i felt really bad. Never felt like that before. Hope itīs not my time... :( My Father had to take a lot of pills ... never mind if it happens i hope itīs quick
CALM...get checked if it lingers over day.this is coming from someone who nevers goes to dr lol..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 14, 2014, 11:37:11 AM
Feel better Donny

Back/Triceps
3iu Humatrope/40mg T-bol

Reverse grip pulley rows 3 sets
One arm Hammer pull downs 3 sets
One Arm Hammer rows 3 sets
Straight arm pull downs 3 sets
Life Fitness row machine 3 sets 3 different grips

Incline Hammer close grip benches 3 sets
DB tricep extensions on the floor 3 sets
Pushdowns 4 different handles 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 14, 2014, 11:49:03 AM
tell you what guys i don not feel too good at the mom. was really light headed and weird. Had a bit of chest pain too. i am not paranoid but my father had Heart attacks at my Age. maybe i better get a check up. Iīm never at the Doc but i felt really bad. Never felt like that before. Hope itīs not my time... :( My Father had to take a lot of pills ... never mind if it happens i hope itīs quick

I avoid the doctor like the plague most of the time. Maybe this is because I spend so much time with my wife at her various doctor visits or it is a carryover from when I was a kid and my parents only took me to the doctor when I was near death (joke)! This being said, stress is a killer Donny. A little while before the post were you weren't feeling right, you were upset about work. This might have something to do with you feeling off. With a history of heart disease in your family and concerns over it, you best let a doctor check you out. Chances are, you're fine. Confirming that you are, with an expert opinion will help relieve any stress you feel because of the uncertainty. Go to the doctor!

 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2014, 01:49:35 PM
well i went to work and took it easy. Maybe just tired. thought i was going to keel over... ??? never mind a good nights sleep and i am good. Have to get a check up just to be safe. still here  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 14, 2014, 02:27:54 PM
Speaking of doctors, called my wife's doctor because she isn't doing well at all. In a few minutes, I am taking her up to the ER at the hospital. Her blood gasses are so low, they aren't registering at all. I know the machine isn't broken, cause mine read/displayed right away.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 14, 2014, 07:22:57 PM
Chest & Abs:

Chest:
Smith Machine Inclines-1+1/2 reps = 1 rep:
135-failure
150-failure
165-failure
135-failure
I do one full rep,followed by one half rep from the top,this constitutes one rep.....very humbling,very painful.

Flyes:
50-10
50-10
40-15

Crossovers:
2 X 20 with 3 plates a side

Cybex Seated Bench Press Machine:
8 plates-12
7 plates-12

Abs:

Tri-Set:
{Reverse Crunches:
2 X failure
{Crunches:
2 X failure
{Reverse Crunches:
2 X failure
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on January 14, 2014, 08:53:11 PM
back:

lat pulldowns   4 sets

one arm cable rows  4 sets

machine close grip pulldowns  3 sets

chest supported t bar rows  3 sets

hyperextensions  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2014, 01:54:17 AM
Speaking of doctors, called my wife's doctor because she isn't doing well at all. In a few minutes, I am taking her up to the ER at the hospital. Her blood gasses are so low, they aren't registering at all. I know the machine isn't broken, cause mine read/displayed right away.
Pmīd you Buddy
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 15, 2014, 06:14:57 AM
Chest & Abs:

Chest:
Smith Machine Inclines-1+1/2 reps = 1 rep:
135-failure
150-failure
165-failure
135-failure
I do one full rep,followed by one half rep from the top,this constitutes one rep.....very humbling,very painful.

Flyes:
50-10
50-10
40-15

Crossovers:
2 X 20 with 3 plates a side

Cybex Seated Bench Press Machine:
8 plates-12
7 plates-12

Abs:

Tri-Set:
{Reverse Crunches:
2 X failure
{Crunches:
2 X failure
{Reverse Crunches:
2 X failure
NICE WES ,I LIKE VOLUME..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 15, 2014, 08:45:37 AM
Thanks NJ...me too!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 15, 2014, 08:47:04 AM
Back,Traps,Lower Back,Neck:

Back:
V-Bar Chins:
3 X 8

Seated Cable Rows:
115-15
130-12
150-12

Dumbell Pullovers:
60-12
75-12
65-12

Wide-Grip Pulldowns Behind Neck:
3 X 12 with 10 plates

Tri-Set:
{Cybex Close Grip Pulldown Machine:
130-12
150-12
{Straight-Arm Pulldowns:
2 X 12 with 7 plates
{Cybex Seated Rowing Machine:
110-12
130-12

Traps:
Smith Machine Upright Rows Behind Back:
3 X 12 with 115 pounds

Lower Back:
Hyperextensions: (bodyweight)
15
12
12

Neck:
Nautilus 4-Way Neck Machine:
2 sets in each of the 4 positions
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 15, 2014, 10:03:45 AM
Delts/Traps

3iu Humatrope/40mg T-bol/100mg TrenA/50mg Mast P

Front side raise combo warmups 2 sets
Lying Incline side laterals 8 sets 10s to 25s
Rear Delt Cable flies 4 sets
Pulls to the Face Ergo Style 3 sets
Behind the back cable side laterals 2 sets
Machine Press Ergo style 3 sets
DB Shrugs 5 sets 50-75s
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 15, 2014, 10:09:54 AM
Delts/Traps

3iu Humatrope/40mg T-bol/100mg TrenA/50mg Mast P

Front side raise combo warmups 2 sets
Lying Incline side laterals 8 sets 10s to 25s
Rear Delt Cable flies 4 sets
Pulls to the Face Ergo Style 3 sets
Behind the back cable side laterals 2 sets
Machine Press Ergo style 3 sets
DB Shrugs 5 sets 50-75s

nice wez,,wish flex magazine posted ronnies workout but mentioned his day's stack before his routine,would have saved a lot of kids money
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 15, 2014, 10:34:07 AM
nice wez,,wish flex magazine posted ronnies workout but mentioned his day's stack before his routine,would have saved a lot of kids money

Thanks, I just like being honest...it feels better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 15, 2014, 08:07:04 PM
back day'gym'

hammer pulldowns uses side handle instead under hand grip..plate and 25/2 plates per/2plates and 10/2plates and 2tens' 12/10/8/8
tbar front loaded wide grip..2.5 plates/3 plates/3.5 plates 12/10/10
low cable pully rows 180/195/210 12/10/10
chest to pad tbar standing version inner grip 2 plates,/2.5/2.5  10/10/10
standing pulldowns bar pulled to waist x3 stretch and squeeze

weighte dhypers x3

biceps
curls with straight 45 lb bar ...85 x10.95x10,105 x10/105x10 after 8 on some sets threw in some half reps bottom to middle portion
db curls x3 35/40/45 standing mixed reps single and then both together than back to single gives good pump going backand forth
rope curls x2
finished seated curl machine x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 16, 2014, 02:03:42 AM
so was at the Doc this morning and it was OK. EKG and Blood good. Blood Pressure 120/70... ;D I will celebrate with this Little Reg Park number....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 16, 2014, 04:03:29 AM
left out the Deads squats were enough... :P Did them a couple of Days ago, squats were hard enough. Reg Park was a Beast ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 16, 2014, 04:17:57 AM
Part 2....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 16, 2014, 05:29:36 AM
left out the Deads squats were enough... :P Did them a couple of Days ago, squats were hard enough. Reg Park was a Beast ;D

beast...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 16, 2014, 07:49:21 AM
Arms then off to pick up my wife from the Philly airport.

3iu Humatrope/40mg T-bol

Rope pushdowns ss single handle cable curls 3 sets
Overhead cable extensions ss spider curls 3 sets
Incline DB extensions ss barbell curls 3 sets
Single arm cable extensions ss concentration hammers 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 16, 2014, 07:55:04 AM
Arms then off to pick up my wife from the Philly airport.

3iu Humatrope/40mg T-bol

Rope pushdowns ss single handle cable curls 3 sets
Overhead cable extensions ss spider curls 3 sets
Incline DB extensions ss barbell curls 3 sets
Single arm cable extensions ss concentration hammers 3 sets
ALWAYS NEED PUMP TO GO THROUGH AIRPORT ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on January 16, 2014, 08:41:21 AM
delts and bis:

side laterals  5 sets

Nubret laterals  4 sets

smith machine presses  3 sets

db shrugs  3 sets


hammer curls   6 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 16, 2014, 09:23:32 AM
delts and bis:

side laterals  5 sets

Nubret laterals  4 sets

smith machine presses  3 sets

db shrugs  3 sets


hammer curls   6 sets
I like across body hammer curls hits brachi/bi...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on January 16, 2014, 01:28:22 PM
I like across body hammer curls hits brachi/bi...
steverino......I sincerely hope your wife is feeling better!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 16, 2014, 02:44:37 PM
ALWAYS NEED PUMP TO GO THROUGH AIRPORT ;D

Absolutely!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 16, 2014, 04:30:26 PM
Shoulders,Calves,Abs:

Shoulders:
Cybex Seated Press Machine:
3 plates-20
5 plates-15
6 plates-12
7 plates-10
4 plates-15
Did these"I go,you go" style with my training partner......very short rest periods!

Lateral Raises:
4 X 20 with the 15 pounders
Again,"I go,you go" style which created a helluva` burn even with these light bells.

Face-Pulls:
4 X 20 with 4 plates

Calves:
Cybex Seated Leg Press Calf Raise:
6 X failure

Abs:
Crunches:
4 X failure

I don`t think I`ve ever been this sore in a loooong time,my entire body is wrecked!!

Fucking layoffs are good occasionally,but the pain of starting over is a bitch.

2 + 1/2 weeks was too damn long....OUCH!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 16, 2014, 04:34:48 PM
so was at the Doc this morning and it was OK. EKG and Blood good. Blood Pressure 120/70... ;D I will celebrate with this Little Reg Park number....

I`m 120/70 also Donny................... not bad for us older gents!!

Glad you`re in great health bud!  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 16, 2014, 04:37:32 PM
ALWAYS NEED PUMP TO GO THROUGH AIRPORT ;D
It`s a necessity to be sure!  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 16, 2014, 11:39:14 PM
I`m 120/70 also Donny................... not bad for us older gents!!

Glad you`re in great health bud!  ;)
Thanks Wes....hihi... yes we are doing Ok ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 16, 2014, 11:44:35 PM
delts and bis:

side laterals  5 sets

Nubret laterals  4 sets

smith machine presses  3 sets

db shrugs  3 sets


hammer curls   6 sets
nice i like the Nubret laterals...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on January 17, 2014, 07:08:11 AM
nice i like the Nubret laterals...

lying on the floor version....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 17, 2014, 08:57:26 AM
tell ya mature threaders are very cool,cinsiderate,genuine in there caring for situations that happen that we post,gerge'willie 'pm's me all the time and asks abot wife and general concern to pep me up,donny/jay/ken/have all been great ,,,jay/donny last yr close to this time kept me going dueing 2 month ordeal with back 'nerve 'issue which was tough but i got through it ,,2014 we will forge on...and of course WES return of our old soldier bbing,history/stories has been awesome for new yr...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 17, 2014, 09:15:31 AM
tell ya mature threaders are very cool,cinsiderate,genuine in there caring for situations that happen that we post,gerge'willie 'pm's me all the time and asks abot wife and general concern to pep me up,donny/jay/ken/have all been great ,,,jay/donny last yr close to this time kept me going dueing 2 month ordeal with back 'nerve 'issue which was tough but i got through it ,,2014 we will forge on...and of course WES return of our old soldier bbing,history/stories has been awesome for new yr...
This is Top Gun Steve... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 17, 2014, 09:19:29 AM
delts 'gym' not home  :D

behind neck press old school lol,,,135/145/145w drop
side laterals 25/30/35/then 35x8/25x8/20x8 triset drop
front raise curlbar premade 50/60/70
incline face down rear laterals x4
behind back cables laterals x3

shrugs
225x15/275x12/295x12/315x10

calves 5 sets standing calf raise 2 sec pause at top/stretch to bottom hold..good pump

forearms
rollup weighted rope x3
reverse curls cable x4

did some extra tricep work too ,,overhead rope extensions x4 and dip machine x4,,did them monday so 4 day rest and hit em with some reps..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 17, 2014, 09:20:09 AM
This is Top Gun Steve... ;D
callme 'maverick' :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 17, 2014, 09:27:45 AM
callme 'maverick' :D
  ;D Oldie but Goldie
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 17, 2014, 07:55:00 PM
like doing pics show all sides,none of this half arm/part calf /fuzzy,,like i said maybe show this yr'comeback'lol,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 18, 2014, 02:50:20 AM
Thick dense muscle Steve...years of Hard work ! Looks very powerful too. Your legs are like 2 marble columns...today i rest another Day and then tomorrow i will hit it all again. Nice Change hitting full Body with the Basics. Just concentrating on squats,deads,rows, etc...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 18, 2014, 04:36:25 AM
Impressive pics as always NJ............especially that ab and thigh shot.
(no homo)  :)

A true testament to consistancy, and just plain old keeping on............ as you got older over the years,physique hasn`t regressed one single bit.

You`re never out of shape,and could compete at any time once you made a commitment to a precontest diet........props!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 18, 2014, 04:37:34 AM
Friday

Real wimpy workout again....my Triceps are so sore from doing pullovers that I  couldn`t do any Tricep movements that would even remotely stretch the Triceps........waaaay too sore!!

Lightweight,fast pace,good pump and not a bad workout considering that my Triceps feel torn.

Biceps/Triceps:

Super-Set #1:
{Cable Preacher Curls:
3 plates-15
4 plates-12
5 plates-12
4 plates-12
{Pressdowns:
5 plates-20
6 plates-15
7 plates-15
5 plates-20

Super-Set #2:
{Hammer Curls:
3 X 12 with the 30 pounders
{Triceps Kickbacks:
3 X 20 with the 20 pounders

Forearms:

Super-Set:
{Reverse Wrist Curls:
3 X failure with 25 pound E-Z Curl bar
{Wrist Curls:
3 X failure with 70 pounds

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 18, 2014, 06:46:46 AM
like doing pics show all sides,none of this half arm/part calf /fuzzy,,like i said maybe show this yr'comeback'lol,,,

Awesome Steve....I have those same drawers!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2014, 06:48:17 AM
Awesome Steve....I have those same drawers!
:D...lets see um  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2014, 07:44:42 AM
couple points ..
wes/donny are active in 2 great threads funk51's training pic and the old school build one..main point in those threads is to show
how truly bbing has regressed in training and builds,reliance on drugs,yes drugs were used and in some instances mightily but
those builds had great bases 'i assume'before using or using to get in shape with.

2..that is my ideal type as well lean'but not dry to bone'i,ve been there u have all seen my 'old'lol contest pics
unless i compete again its not practical for me to walkaround like'gali'24/7 but.....

3..i.. as wes has stated followed me over the yrs stay in great shape but its functional for life.. type of build to train heavy,eat clean'but with some of good things in life food wise '

4...diet i eat 5 protein meal sources per day,range from tuna/turkey/egg beater's 'detest cracking eggwhites or eating eggwhite version eggbeater did it for long time/some meat/chicken
carbs yes i eat in sometimes heavy/sometimes not depending on look i am going for or training day'legs day needs more energy..
'wes'elaborated on eating on fasted period and it works and i've done it ,morning workout on just cofee and last day's food sources
and have gotten great pumps from it as well/and your body when 'lean not contest but just good lean will look its best stomach is flat/and muscle aren't smoothed from too much sodium or carbed from morning breakfast say...interesting theory wes knows..

5...every person pictured in thos b/w or hardcore thread i would take there builds,just a few zane/pearl/baldwin/sansone/grimek/there are so many names but there builds standout,,they seemed to live a good life like they enjoyed training before anything else,life was on the beach.
'weider'blew the scene up good/bad with mags 'good'covering up the 'drugs'with his silly 'principles'bad...but it is what it is..

6...training...4/5 days per wk,,4 days set scheduled
mon,,chest/tri's abs
tues off
wed back/bi/abs
thurs delts/forarms calves
fri off
sat leg day 'full'
sun off
depending on work i work 2 sat month ,i will do legs on sun/then sat.. i go in basement and do a light lol full bodyworkout for pump..
or sun i will do it minus chest/tri cause they worked mon,,so back/delt/bi gets some type stimulation..

cardio i do zero i hate it ''i did it contest time'i tain hard/fast workout are about 1 hr to 1:15/20min..straing and direct and hard no nonsense.

7..if i could be one true bber other than myself i would pic prime benfatto or b/w version or early 70's zane before his m ro .run btw he looked inzane lol then tho...

if u read this long story thanks if not  8)..again training trumps all comes before drugs 'big misconception on g/o board/diet bulk/rip..and in the end ones genetics is main thing and people who have been blessed should never apologise cause its dictated before one ever picks up a weight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on January 18, 2014, 07:24:37 PM
back:


lat pulldowns  4 sets

one arm cable rows  3 sets

machine close grip pulldowns  3 sets

chest supported t bar rows  3 sets

hyperextensions  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2014, 08:39:31 PM
leg day :P
hack squats 2 plates/3/4/5 side,,15/12/10/10
leg press ..5/6/7 plates 12/10/10
reverse lunges smith x3
extensions 205/220/235 12/12/12

hams
sldl 135/185/235/235
seated leg curls 10/195/210

calves
seated calf raise 2 sets 3 plates x15-20/3.5 plates x2 12/12..4 plates x2 10-12 heavy tough..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 19, 2014, 04:00:19 AM
Today was 3 power moves 5x5

Bench press
bent over barbell rows
squats

I am working soon so after work i will hit the cross Trainer for some cardio...feel pumped all over. i will after a few Months go back to a normal split.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 19, 2014, 10:40:36 AM
Sunday Chest and Biceps

3iu Seros/100mg Tren A/50mg Mast P/40mg T-bol

Pec Deck 4 sets 110/130/150/170
Incline Smith Machine 135X10 10sec pause 135X7 10sec pause 135X5
                                 185X10 slow reps
                                  Drop set 235X5 185X5 135X5
                                  Negatives 275X3
Flat bench DB press 3X60X15
High cable crossovers 3X 20

2 arm cable curls 3X15
Incline DB curls 3X25X10
Barbell curls 60X15 70X15 80X12 90X10
Rope curls 3X10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 19, 2014, 11:39:36 AM
Sunday Chest and Biceps

3iu Seros/100mg Tren A/50mg Mast P/40mg T-bol

Pec Deck 4 sets 110/130/150/170
Incline Smith Machine 135X10 10sec pause 135X7 10sec pause 135X5
                                 185X10 slow reps
                                  Drop set 235X5 185X5 135X5
                                  Negatives 275X3
Flat bench DB press 3X60X15
High cable crossovers 3X 20

2 arm cable curls 3X15
Incline DB curls 3X25X10
Barbell curls 60X15 70X15 80X12 90X10
Rope curls 3X10
lot of High Intensity in the Incline press, make any weight feel heavy.... ;D good drills Wez
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: O.Z. on January 19, 2014, 04:47:41 PM
My current routine:

Day 1-Chest&Biceps-30min & cardio 20-30 min
Day 2-Calves - 20min & cardio 30 min
Day 3-Shoulders - 30 min & cardio 20-30 min
Day 4-Forearms - 20 min & cardio 30 min
Day 5-Back&Triceps -30 min & cardio 20-30 min
Day 6-Calves -20 min & cardio 30 min
Day 7-Legs-30 min
Day after legs session is rest day and then back to business

Light to moderate weights, 10-15 reps per set as I am still in a fat burning routine until I get down to 8% bodyfat (10 currently) where I'd like to stay for a while.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: O.Z. on January 19, 2014, 04:52:08 PM
couple points ..
wes/donny are active in 2 great threads funk51's training pic and the old school build one..main point in those threads is to show
how truly bbing has regressed in training and builds,reliance on drugs,yes drugs were used and in some instances mightily but
those builds had great bases 'i assume'before using or using to get in shape with.

2..that is my ideal type as well lean'but not dry to bone'i,ve been there u have all seen my 'old'lol contest pics
unless i compete again its not practical for me to walkaround like'gali'24/7 but.....

3..i.. as wes has stated followed me over the yrs stay in great shape but its functional for life.. type of build to train heavy,eat clean'but with some of good things in life food wise '

4...diet i eat 5 protein meal sources per day,range from tuna/turkey/egg beater's 'detest cracking eggwhites or eating eggwhite version eggbeater did it for long time/some meat/chicken
carbs yes i eat in sometimes heavy/sometimes not depending on look i am going for or training day'legs day needs more energy..
'wes'elaborated on eating on fasted period and it works and i've done it ,morning workout on just cofee and last day's food sources
and have gotten great pumps from it as well/and your body when 'lean not contest but just good lean will look its best stomach is flat/and muscle aren't smoothed from too much sodium or carbed from morning breakfast say...interesting theory wes knows..

5...every person pictured in thos b/w or hardcore thread i would take there builds,just a few zane/pearl/baldwin/sansone/grimek/there are so many names but there builds standout,,they seemed to live a good life like they enjoyed training before anything else,life was on the beach.
'weider'blew the scene up good/bad with mags 'good'covering up the 'drugs'with his silly 'principles'bad...but it is what it is..

6...training...4/5 days per wk,,4 days set scheduled
mon,,chest/tri's abs
tues off
wed back/bi/abs
thurs delts/forarms calves
fri off
sat leg day 'full'
sun off
depending on work i work 2 sat month ,i will do legs on sun/then sat.. i go in basement and do a light lol full bodyworkout for pump..
or sun i will do it minus chest/tri cause they worked mon,,so back/delt/bi gets some type stimulation..

cardio i do zero i hate it ''i did it contest time'i tain hard/fast workout are about 1 hr to 1:15/20min..straing and direct and hard no nonsense.

7..if i could be one true bber other than myself i would pic prime benfatto or b/w version or early 70's zane before his m ro .run btw he looked inzane lol then tho...

if u read this long story thanks if not  8)..again training trumps all comes before drugs 'big misconception on g/o board/diet bulk/rip..and in the end ones genetics is main thing and people who have been blessed should never apologise cause its dictated before one ever picks up a weight.

I admire your commitment considering you have 3 kids and a wife who is not a big fan of your gym activities&dieting (same case here by the way. Sometimes I find it harder to cope with than any dieting :)
My wife's main complain is that I have my own groceries list and cook my own stuff but she should be happy as I am not asking her to do that for me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 19, 2014, 04:56:07 PM
lot of High Intensity in the Incline press, make any weight feel heavy.... ;D good drills Wez

Thanks Donny...my little Brother's idea!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2014, 05:42:55 PM
My current routine:

Day 1-Chest&Biceps-30min & cardio 20-30 min
Day 2-Calves - 20min & cardio 30 min
Day 3-Shoulders - 30 min & cardio 20-30 min
Day 4-Forearms - 20 min & cardio 30 min
Day 5-Back&Triceps -30 min & cardio 20-30 min
Day 6-Calves -20 min & cardio 30 min
Day 7-Legs-30 min
Day after legs session is rest day and then back to business

Light to moderate weights, 10-15 reps per set as I am still in a fat burning routine until I get down to 8% bodyfat (10 currently) where I'd like to stay for a while.
lot of cardio there..i see its working good job,,i hate cardio do zero...lucky to have good metabolism still,training is fast paced little rest but still heavy weights on some movements,,that rest few minutes between heavy sets ,unless your setting a big 3 record is nonsense...keep posting pic updates its welcome here like to see progress,,g/o\board is for certain people who thrive for validation with pics,, here good ,honest critique and positive not 'you look like shit hope this helps's line...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 20, 2014, 02:17:22 AM
Talking of Cardio... i will go for a fast run tonight. Been doing my cardio mainly in the Gym.. but i will hit the cold dark streets tonight....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Kurt on January 20, 2014, 02:48:56 AM
Donny.... Good to hear your BP was normal. I am going to try to get back in the gym tonight after missing since last Wednesday due to the flu. I woke up early to slowly acclimate to eating normally again.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 20, 2014, 05:01:51 AM
Donny.... Good to hear your BP was normal. I am going to try to get back in the gym tonight after missing since last Wednesday due to the flu. I woke up early to slowly acclimate to eating normally again.
Thanks ... yes best to have a light workout and get back into it. Just cardio for me later and tomorrow i will workout again with weights.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 20, 2014, 11:58:15 AM
Legs

3iu Seros/50mgT-bol

Leg extensions 3X25 ss
Leg Curls 3X20 ss
Leg presses 3 plates es x40 4 platesX30 5 plates X25 6 plates es for 20

Calf raises on Leg press 5 plates es 3X30
Seated calf raise drop sets 6-25s 4-25s 2-25s 2 sets

Hanging leg raises 4X20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2014, 12:19:24 PM
Legs

3iu Seros/50mgT-bol

Leg extensions 3X25 ss
Leg Curls 3X20 ss
Leg presses 3 plates es x40 4 platesX30 5 plates X25 6 plates es for 20

Calf raises on Leg press 5 plates es 3X30
Seated calf raise drop sets 6-25s 4-25s 2-25s 2 sets

Hanging leg raises 4X20
LOVE DROP SETS SEATED CALF RAISE
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 20, 2014, 12:26:14 PM
LOVE DROP SETS SEATED CALF RAISE

I was hobbling around the grocery store after!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2014, 12:46:56 PM
I was hobbling around the grocery store after!
;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on January 20, 2014, 08:32:28 PM
chest/bis:


incline smith super set with flat flyes  6 sets


cable crossovers  4 sets

incline flyes  4 sets

hammer curls   6 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 21, 2014, 03:52:19 AM
Monday Jan. 20th.

Quads:
Leg Press:
2 plates per side-20
3 plates per side-20
4 plates per side-15
5 plates per side-15

Leg Extensions:
80-12
100-12
90-12
70-15

Squats:
135-15
185-10
205-6
165-12

Hamstrings:
Lying Leg Curls:
50-20
70-12
90-12
80-15
70-15

Calves:
Cybex Seated Leg Press Calf Raise:
5 X failure

Cybex Rotary Calf Extensions:
3 X failure
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on January 21, 2014, 08:34:50 AM
Tuesday Jan. 21st.

Chest:
Smith Machine Inclines:
135-20
160-12
185-6
155-12
155-10
135-15
Very little rest between sets throughout the whole workout.

Next week I`ll train faster with more intensity techniques thrown in.

Flyes:
45-10
55-10
50-10

Pre-Exhaust Super-Set:
{Pec-Deck:
2 X failure with 5 plates
{Cybex Seated Bench Press Machine:
2 X failure with 7 plates

Crossovers:
1 X 20 with 4 plates

Abs:

Super-Set:
{Rope-Crunches:
2 X failure
{Reverse Crunches:
2 X failure
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 21, 2014, 10:32:38 AM
chest
fldb press 55/65/75 12/10/10 80/80/80-60 drop 8/8/6-6
incline press 165/175/185/135 10/10/8/15
hammer seated lower pec press 2 plates/2.5/3plates 12/10/8
cable crossovers x3 15/12/12
dips x3 bodyweight x15 then 2 sets 25lb plate additional x12-15

tris
ROPE EXTENSIONS OVERHEADX4
REVERSE PUSHOWNS UNDER HAND GRIP X3
PUSDOWNS SUPERSET WITH CABLE KICKBACKS X3

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 21, 2014, 11:08:56 AM
Back and Triceps

3iu Seros/250 Galenika Test/100 Tren A/50 Mast P/50mg T-bol pre-workout

Wide grip Chins 3X10
Bent Rows 135X20 185X15 205X10 225X8
Palms facing pull downs 120X20 140X15 160X12
Rope pulls to waist 3X15

Tri sets 3 times

V-grip pushdown X20
Lying extensions with 40lb chains each hand x10
Dip machine X15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 21, 2014, 11:19:42 AM
Back and Triceps

3iu Seros/250 Galenika Test/100 Tren A/50 Mast P/50mg T-bol pre-workout

Wide grip Chins 3X10
Bent Rows 135X20 185X15 205X10 225X8
Palms facing pull downs 120X20 140X15 160X12
Rope pulls to waist 3X15

Tri sets 3 times

V-grip pushdown X20
Lying extensions with 40lb chains each hand x10
Dip machine X15
ROPE PULLS TO THE WAIST IS ONE OF MY FAV;S DO THEM OFTEN..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 21, 2014, 12:25:36 PM
Today was...

Deadlifts
Barbell rows
Barbell Bench press
Military press
Barbell curls (5x10) all the rest 5x5

 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2014, 10:31:37 AM
Tonight was a Long endurance run with a friend ,,,hurt
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 22, 2014, 10:52:05 AM
Delt/trap day

3iu Seros/50mg T-bol

Front side lateral warmup 2 sets
Side laterals 8/10/12/15/20/25/30/35/40
Incline side laterals drop set 20/15/10/8
Bent rear laterals ss cable rears 4 sets
Seated smith presses from pins at nose. 95x20 115X15 135X12 155X0
DB shrugs 5 sets 55/60/65/70/75
Side cable laterals 2 sets to failure
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2014, 11:55:36 AM
Delt/trap day

3iu Seros/50mg T-bol

Front side lateral warmup 2 sets
Side laterals 8/10/12/15/20/25/30/35/40
Incline side laterals drop set 20/15/10/8
Bent rear laterals ss cable rears 4 sets
Seated smith presses from pins at nose. 95x20 115X15 135X12 155X0
DB shrugs 5 sets 55/60/65/70/75
Side cable laterals 2 sets to failure
nice ..I swear ur copying my workouts ;D...good stuff..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2014, 12:05:15 PM
nice ..I swear ur copying my workouts ;D...good stuff..
TOP GUN  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2014, 12:07:34 PM
TOP GUN  ;D
;D, ;D, 8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: O.Z. on January 22, 2014, 08:48:24 PM
back to gym last night after 6 days of hectic life and no time to lift any weights. Wife in hospital, taking care of little kid, running business...
Now I see how much of stress relief gym session are. Escape from every day grinding. Once done, you reach nirvana state ;)
Quite pity a lot of people see it as a torture chamber.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 23, 2014, 10:40:39 AM
Arm Day
3iu Seros/100mg TrenA/75mg Mast P/50mg T-bol

DB preacher curls 25X10 30X10 35X10 40X10
EZ Bar Curls 3X105X10
Hammer Curls 3X50X12
Concentration curls 2x25x10
One arm machine preachers 2X40X15

Rope pushdowns ss reverse ez curl pushdowns 3 sets each
Smith Machine JM Presses on Incline 4X135X15
Overhead extensions 3X15
Rope pushdowns ss reverse ez curl pushdowns 3 sets each

one arm high cable forearms 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on January 24, 2014, 08:37:43 AM
chest/bis/calves:


incline smith machine   5 sets

incline flyes  4 sets

cable crossovers  4 sets

hammer curls   6 sets

seated calf raises 5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 24, 2014, 09:02:50 AM
BEEN SICK HEAD/CHEST COLD PRETTY WORN...

DID BACK DAY BEFORE SICK DAY TOO BEAT TO WRITE IT 2 DAYS AGO

BACK
PULLDOWNS BEHIND NECK X4
LOW CABLE ROW UNDERHAND GRIP X4
DB INCLINE 2 ARM ROWS X3
STANDING WIDE BAR PULLINS TO WAIST X3
SINGLE ARM CABLE PULLDOWNS X3

BI'S
CURLS DB 30/45/45
CURLS DB CONCETRATION HAMMER STYLE 30/30/30
CURL BAR CURLS X3
CABLE CURLS ON LAT PULLDOWN STRETCH AND CURL BAR BEHIND HEAD ..HIT OR MISS WITH THESE TOSSED IN A FEW WHAT THE HECK..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 24, 2014, 10:55:23 AM
BEEN SICK HEAD/CHEST COLD PRETTY WORN...

DID BACK DAY BEFORE SICK DAY TOO BEAT TO WRITE IT 2 DAYS AGO

BACK
PULLDOWNS BEHIND NECK X4
LOW CABLE ROW UNDERHAND GRIP X4
DB INCLINE 2 ARM ROWS X3
STANDING WIDE BAR PULLINS TO WAIST X3
SINGLE ARM CABLE PULLDOWNS X3

BI'S
CURLS DB 30/45/45
CURLS DB CONCETRATION HAMMER STYLE 30/30/30
CURL BAR CURLS X3
CABLE CURLS ON LAT PULLDOWN STRETCH AND CURL BAR BEHIND HEAD ..HIT OR MISS WITH THESE TOSSED IN A FEW WHAT THE HECK..

Probably all that snow and freezing weather gave you the cold. My cousin who lives in Maine just emailed me that she has had a cold since Christmas.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 24, 2014, 11:55:23 AM
Probably all that snow and freezing weather gave you the cold. My cousin who lives in Maine just emailed me that she has had a cold since Christmas.
I'M IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE,COUGH IS ECHOING AND DRY HARD HURTS MY BODY WHEN I COUGH.HEAD FEELS LIKE ITS AN ANVIL..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 25, 2014, 03:04:35 AM
get well soon Steve... we have snow here too but itīs not deep but fairly cold. workout yesterday was..

squats
Bench press
Barbell rows
shoulder press
curls with straight bar.

Tonight i will wrap up and go running.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 25, 2014, 06:13:31 AM
get well soon Steve... we have snow here too but itīs not deep but fairly cold. workout yesterday was..

squats
Bench press
Barbell rows
shoulder press
curls with straight bar.

Tonight i will wrap up and go running.
thanks Donny,much,much better everything loosening up finally cough.head nose is clearing up,train today after 2 day rest..good power workout there bro..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 26, 2014, 10:13:18 AM
Chest and Biceps

3iu Seros/60mg T-bol

High Incline Smith presses from pins at chest. 95X20 135X15 185X12 225X8
Hammer Inclines 2 plates each sideX20 3 plates each side 15 4 plates each sideX8 drop set 4/3/2/1 es
Pec Deck 3X15
Life fitness chest press 2X15 ss.....drop set stack/210/160/110
Cable Crossovers 1X50


Seated hig pulley ez curls behind the head...8 sets
Life fitness one arm preachers 4X12
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2014, 11:21:23 AM
delts sat after recuped from sick days

front presses supperset with side laterals x4 135 x10side raises 20lb x10/145 x10/s raise 25x10/165 x8/sraises 30x10/165 x6 30x10

upright rows pre made curl bar 70x10 ss with bent over rear laterals top db facing each other instead palms to side 25 x10...80 x10row with 30x10
80 row x10ss 30 x10

cable to rear laterals x3

shrugs 225/275/295 sets 15-10 reps
rear shrug on hammer chesy press lying version 3 plates and 4 per side

forarms
abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2014, 11:34:22 AM
sun leg day

squats very winded here stilla bit sick coughing got through it tho
135 x2/225x12/275x12/315x10/365x10
hacks feet together x3 3 plates per side/4/4 sets 12
lunges standing still leg foward back then following leg 10 per leg 50 lb dbells x2
extensions x3 sets 12 205/220/235

hams
sld dbells 60/70/80 12/10/10
seated ham curls 180/195/210

calves
leg press 3 plates /3.5/3.5 sets 20/15/15
seated calf raise 3 plates/3.5/3.5 till failure which i was toasted by now at least 10 reps
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 26, 2014, 11:41:03 AM
Glad to see you feeling well Steve! Sick Blows!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2014, 11:43:03 AM
Glad to see you feeling well Steve! Sick Blows!
thnks k.b. squats and hacks i was weezing/winded that never happens ever lol,,guy i train with he gets winded under normal conditions not even sick...i push hard and him very much
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 26, 2014, 01:12:54 PM
Never trained today was at work ( Sunday ) but wiil tomorrow. Last nights run was cold...infact my little  man was numb  when I was running :D was an icy wind
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2014, 05:54:32 PM
Never trained today was at work ( Sunday ) but wiil tomorrow. Last nights run was cold...infact my little  man was numb  when I was running :D was an icy wind
lol..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on January 26, 2014, 08:58:38 PM
FRIDAY NIGHT.....LEG EXTENSIONS  5 SETS......SQUATS 4 SETS......ROMANIAN DEADLIFTS 4 SETS......SEATED CALF RAISES 5 SETS.


SAT AND SUN OFF.


MON NIGHT WILL BE CHEST.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 27, 2014, 08:57:37 AM
Legs and Abs

3iu Seros/100 Tren Ace/75 Mast P/60g T-bol

Kneeling rope crunches 5 sets
Super Slow Leg Extensions 4 sets
Super Slow Leg Curls 4 sets
One Leg Press 4 sets
Standing Calf raise 5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2014, 04:30:07 AM
yesterday...

Deadlifts
bench press
BB rows
shoulder press
BB curls
parallel bar Dips

threw in a couple of sets of Dips, you know i like them. although i have to be careful not to make the mistake of exercises creeping in threre and doing too much. I alternate Deads and squats each workout. Was running in the snow today and was Feeling it A bit after yesterdays workout. It was harder too in the Woods running in snow but the fresh air was GREAT !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 28, 2014, 08:25:35 AM
CHEST

FDB PRESS 60/70/80/80-60  12/10/8/6-6
INC PRESS DB 60/60/60 I USUALLY HIT 70'S NOT TODAY 10/8/8
HAMMER PRESSE SEATED LOWER /MID CHEST 2/2.5/3 PLATES PER 12/10/10
DIPS WEIGHTED 25 LB PLATE X12/35 LB X10/45LB X8
CABLE CROSSOVERS X3
FLYE IN X2 FINISH X12

TRIS
OVERHEAD EXTENSIONS STRAIGHT BAR X3
TRI PUSHDOWNS X3 130/140/150/160 12/12/10/10
REVERSE PUSHWNS UNDERHAND GRIP X3 100/110/120 10/10/10
KICK BACKS DB 20/25 SETS 12

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 28, 2014, 10:53:19 AM
Back and Triceps
3iu Seros/60mg T-bol

Pull downs with strap 4 sets
Barbell Rows 3 sets
Seated pulley row 3 sets
One arm cable rows 3 sets
Underhand cable rows 3 sets

Smith machine JM Press 4 sets
Behind the neck rope extensions 3 sets
EZ curl pushdowns 4 sets

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on January 28, 2014, 09:52:00 PM
BACK:

LAT PULLDOWNS   3 SETS

ONE ARM CABLE ROWS  3 SETS

MACHINE CLOSE GRIP PULLDOWNS  3 SETS

PARTIAL DEADLIFTS  3 SETS

CHEST SUPPORTED T BAR ROWS  3 SETS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2014, 05:56:19 AM
BACK:

LAT PULLDOWNS   3 SETS

ONE ARM CABLE ROWS  3 SETS

MACHINE CLOSE GRIP PULLDOWNS  3 SETS

PARTIAL DEADLIFTS  3 SETS

CHEST SUPPORTED T BAR ROWS  3 SETS
NICE GEORGERINO...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2014, 05:58:21 AM
,DONNY,WEZ,GEORGE,  ME,MISSING PRIME'JAY'MUSCLE WHERE IS HE IS HE OK????BOOTY IS MIA AS WELL
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 29, 2014, 08:56:22 AM
Delts/Traps

3iu Seros/250mg Galenika Test/100mg TrenA/75mg Mast P/60mg T-bol

One arm DB laterals 10X20 15X20 20X20 25X20 30X15
EZ curl palms up front raises 4X10
DB Presses 40X15 45X15 50X12 55X12
Upright rows 3X10
Shrugs on machine 4X10
Reverse pek deck 4X10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2014, 09:09:53 AM
,DONNY,WEZ,GEORGE,  ME,MISSING PRIME'JAY'MUSCLE WHERE IS HE IS HE OK????BOOTY IS MIA AS WELL
I wrote to Jay a couple of times via pm and he is looking after his wife.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2014, 09:42:33 AM
I wrote to Jay a couple of times via pm and he is looking after his wife.
ok,,hope she's well...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 30, 2014, 12:53:47 AM
yesterday i did the full Body workout again

squats
bench press
BB rows
Dips
shoulder press
BB curls

i like this workout. I will alternate curls with chin ups for Biceps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 30, 2014, 05:33:06 AM
BACK ATTACK..

HAMMER REVERSE PULLDOWNS...45 AND 25,2 PLATES AND 5,2 PLATES AND 10,2 PLATES AND 10/5..REPS 12/10/10/10
PAD TO CHEST T BAR WIDE GRIP 2 PLATES/2.5 PLATES/2.5 PLATES 10/10/10
LOW CABLE ROW WIDE BAR X3 150/165/180
TBAR ROW INNER GRIP 3 PLATES/3PLATES/3.5 SAME REPS RANDES SHOOT FOR 10
FINISHED CABLE ROPE PULLDOWNS TO WAIST X3 STRETCH AND SQUEEZE 'WEZ'LIKES THESE TOO  :D

WEIGHTED HYPERS 45 PLATE X3X12

BI'S
CURL MACHINE X3
CURL STRAIGHT BAR 85/95/105 /105 DROP 85
HAMMERS ACROSS BODY DB 40/45/50

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 30, 2014, 08:21:25 AM
BACK ATTACK..

HAMMER REVERSE PULLDOWNS...45 AND 25,2 PLATES AND 5,2 PLATES AND 10,2 PLATES AND 10/5..REPS 12/10/10/10
PAD TO CHEST T BAR WIDE GRIP 2 PLATES/2.5 PLATES/2.5 PLATES 10/10/10
LOW CABLE ROW WIDE BAR X3 150/165/180
TBAR ROW INNER GRIP 3 PLATES/3PLATES/3.5 SAME REPS RANDES SHOOT FOR 10
FINISHED CABLE ROPE PULLDOWNS TO WAIST X3 STRETCH AND SQUEEZE 'WEZ'LIKES THESE TOO  :D

WEIGHTED HYPERS 45 PLATE X3X12

BI'S
CURL MACHINE X3
CURL STRAIGHT BAR 85/95/105 /105 DROP 85
HAMMERS ACROSS BODY DB 40/45/50

ABS
Steves workout----W I D E  Back  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 30, 2014, 08:25:40 AM
i just did some cardio at home  Tabata style--

Tabata 1 jump rope
Tabata 2 star jumps
Tabata 3 Knee raises(running in place Hands palms down hip height, bringing each alternate knee high to hand
Tabata 4 full sit ups

got me working
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 30, 2014, 10:40:00 AM
Arms race.......
3iu Seros/60mg T-bol

Smith machine JM press 4 sets
Smith machine drag curls 4 sets
Behind the neck rope extensions 4 sets
One arm cable concentration curls 3 sets
EZ curl pushdowns 3 sets
Hammer curls 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 31, 2014, 10:50:09 AM
Arms race.......
3iu Seros/60mg T-bol

Smith machine JM press 4 sets
Smith machine drag curls 4 sets
Behind the neck rope extensions 4 sets
One arm cable concentration curls 3 sets
EZ curl pushdowns 3 sets
Hammer curls 3 sets
Drag curls are a very unique bicep exercise. Never done them in a Smith machine
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 31, 2014, 11:22:45 AM
Drag curls are a very unique bicep exercise. Never done them in a Smith machine

Starting to really like these...Gironda drag curls on the Smith.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 31, 2014, 01:03:22 PM
delts
dbpress40/ 50/55/60 -45 drop 6-8
side laterals ran rack 30/25/20/15 x2 fuking pumped
rear laterals bent over cable x3
front raise curl bar 60/60/70 pre made bar
rear lateral behind back cable x3

shrugs 225/275/295
db shrugs to sides 90/100

forearms

calves standing calf raise x3 3 toe positons 8 reps per 24 rep sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 31, 2014, 02:17:16 PM
delts
dbpress40/ 50/55/60 -45 drop 6-8
side laterals ran rack 30/25/20/15 x2 fuking pumped
rear laterals bent over cable x3
front raise curl bar 60/60/70 pre made bar
rear lateral behind back cable x3

shrugs 225/275/295
db shrugs to sides 90/100

forearms

calves standing calf raise x3 3 toe positons 8 reps per 24 rep sets

We are going to re-name them Jersey drop laterals!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 31, 2014, 02:29:39 PM
We are going to re-name them Jersey drop laterals!
what i like is Steves Attention to Detail. even in calves
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on January 31, 2014, 02:51:42 PM
what i like is Steves Attention to Detail. even in calves

Agreed...that is why I freely admit stealing stuff!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 01, 2014, 10:26:02 AM
wez's side drop laterals has worked well,they have rounded capped my delts a bit more.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 01, 2014, 10:49:39 AM
wez's side drop laterals has worked well,they have rounded capped my delts a bit more.

Yup! delts a poppin!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 01, 2014, 10:50:52 AM
wez's side drop laterals has worked well,they have rounded capped my delts a bit more.
yes nice delts Steve...  ;) Looks like itīs working
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 01, 2014, 07:25:50 PM
leg day
leg press 4/5//6/7-5 ..plates 12/12/10/8-8 last set drop
hacks 3/4/5 plates per 12/10/10
walking lunges 80lb bar on back x2
extension x4 sets 12

hams
sldl w/bar 135/185/225/245
lying leg curls 'wes 'mentioned and i've done them like a '21'style for biceps same muscle type contaction wise ,did 'half reps top to middle then full reps as many or vice versa full to half its killer on hams ,,

calves

seated calf raise x4 3 plates squeeze 2 sec at top each rep and hold at stretch at bottom for 1
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2014, 12:32:26 PM
Today was a cardio Day. Rowing machine 15 mins Interval, cross Trainer 15 mins Interval. short hard workouts.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 02, 2014, 12:39:37 PM
Chest and Biceps

3iu Seros/100 Tren Ace/ Mast P 50/T-bol 60

Flat bench 135X20 185X12 225X6X3
Incline DB Press 60X10X3
Incline DB flies 35X10X3
Hammer Decline 3 sets
Cable Crossovers 2X15

Bicep cable curls behind head 5 sets
DB Preacher curls 2 sets 45X10
Machine one arm preachers 2X12
High pulley forearm curls 3X15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2014, 02:21:35 PM
Chest and Biceps

3iu Seros/100 Tren Ace/ Mast P 50/T-bol 60

Flat bench 135X20 185X12 225X6X3
Incline DB Press 60X10X3
Incline DB flies 35X10X3
Hammer Decline 3 sets
Cable Crossovers 2X15

Bicep cable curls behind head 5 sets
DB Preacher curls 2 sets 45X10
Machine one arm preachers 2X12
High pulley forearm curls 3X15
nice Wez.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 02, 2014, 02:23:04 PM
youquote author=Donny link=topic=447319.msg7309079#msg7309079 date=1391379695]
 nice Wez.
[/quote]

Thank you
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2014, 02:26:37 PM
going to have to invest in some micro plates so i can Progress on the Bench. donīt have them in the gym either. 5x5 i like and it works well .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2014, 02:28:40 PM
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 nice Wez.


Thank you
wellcome Wez
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Kurt on February 02, 2014, 07:34:40 PM
I've been slowly working around a cough that has been wearing me out.

Light cardio, stretching, and weights when I am able.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 03, 2014, 05:46:19 AM
WEZ PROVING GOOD WORKOUTS NOT BIG WEIGHT OR TRYING TO GO OVER WHAT THE BODY NEEDS TO GET IN SHAPE/BIG.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 03, 2014, 06:09:04 AM
WEZ PROVING GOOD WORKOUTS NOT BIG WEIGHT OR TRYING TO GO OVER WHAT THE BODY NEEDS TO GET IN SHAPE/BIG.

My days of heavy weight are over Steve. But I look better now so I am good with that. There was a point when I stopped competing in PL due to shoulder surgery that lifting light weights was depressing. Now I have a whole new outlook and worry more about the pump and exhausting the muscle. Plus...I can sleep at night.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 03, 2014, 07:16:44 AM
My days of heavy weight are over Steve. But I look better now so I am good with that. There was a point when I stopped competing in PL due to shoulder surgery that lifting light weights was depressing. Now I have a whole new outlook and worry more about the pump and exhausting the muscle. Plus...I can sleep at night.
X2 I GO BACK AND FORTH WITH IT AS WELL MEANING PUSHING HARDER THAN SOMETIMES NEED TO AT THIS POINT ,SO I PULL BACK THROTTLE A BIT.I LIKE A GOOD PUMP AND THE LOOK IT BRINGS TO THE MUSCLE OVER TIME..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 03, 2014, 07:18:58 AM
X2 I GO BACK AND FORTH WITH IT AS WELL MEANING PUSHING HARDER THAN SOMETIMES NEED TO AT THIS POINT ,SO I PULL BACK THROTTLE A BIT.I LIKE A GOOD PUMP AND THE LOOK IT BRINGS TO THE MUSCLE OVER TIME..

End of sermon!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2014, 07:37:55 AM
you got to Train for your Body and not against it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 03, 2014, 07:46:39 AM
you got to Train for your Body and not against it.
YEAH....GOOD POINT D,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2014, 07:53:05 AM
YEAH....GOOD POINT D,,
I go by how i feel Steve. I am doing the full Body Thing and feel great. I like volume too like you guys  but at the Moment just back to the roots. Just instinct and my Feelings.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 03, 2014, 07:55:12 AM
I go by how i feel Steve. I am doing the full Body Thing and feel great. I like volume too like you guys  but at the Moment just back to the roots. Just instinct and my Feelings.

Agreed..at our age you need to know your body. Train smart.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2014, 08:03:23 AM
Agreed..at our age you need to know your body. Train smart.
Wez i work in a Gym i see Young Guys every Day following routines that are BS. Infact i have a couple of Young guys who i have taken under my wing(no Homo) who are "Hardgainers". they Need a Routine that is tailored for their Needs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 03, 2014, 08:57:31 AM
My favorite is "what did Arnold do for biceps?" Who cares Kid....you ain't him!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 03, 2014, 09:30:43 AM
My favorite is "what did Arnold do for biceps?" Who cares Kid....you ain't him!
X2...NEVER EMULATE A IDOL OR EVEN FELLOW TRAINING PARTNER OR GUY U TRAIN NEXT TO,JUST STRETCH/MANIPULATE/TRAIN/DEVELOPE YOUR BUILD TO WHAT IT CAN.MOLD THE CLAY ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2014, 09:43:16 AM
X2...NEVER EMULATE A IDOL OR EVEN FELLOW TRAINING PARTNER OR GUY U TRAIN NEXT TO,JUST STRETCH/MANIPULATE/TRAIN/DEVELOPE YOUR BUILD TO WHAT IT CAN.MOLD THE CLAY ...
words of wisdom...be yourself
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 03, 2014, 12:04:42 PM
Legs/Abs

3iu Seros/60mg T-bol

Leg Press 4 plates X50 6 plates X40 8 plates X30 10 plates X25 12 plates X25
Front Squats 135 3X20
Abs w rope 4X20
Seated Calves 5X20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 03, 2014, 02:11:35 PM
I promised my grandson I'd take him to the gym for a workout tomorrow if he was all caught up on his studies. Looks like I am willing to try anything that gets me back in the swing of hitting the gym.

I brought my wife home today for a couple of hours time she had between her doctor appointment and dialysis. She even had lunch with me while she was there. We are both hoping I can spring her from convalescent care by this next weekend.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 03, 2014, 02:19:44 PM
I promised my grandson I'd take him to the gym for a workout tomorrow if he was all caught up on his studies. Looks like I am willing to try anything that gets me back in the swing of hitting the gym.

I brought my wife home today for a couple of hours time she had between her doctor appointment and dialysis. She even had lunch with me while she was there. We are both hoping I can spring her from convalescent care by this next weekend.

Sounds awesome Prime..my Grandson will be 13 this year....soon!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 03, 2014, 03:22:23 PM
Sounds awesome Prime..my Grandson will be 13 this year....soon!

We have two grandsons. This one is sixteen years old. He's been working out for about a year. He's always been really active in sports, playing basketball and soccer mostly. This year he's doing online school, so he's at school on his laptop in our living room right now. He has some catching up to do because he spent most to last week at his paternal grandparents house and says he couldn't get online on their wireless. I suspect they didn't enforce him doing his studies and he procrastinates. Our daughter and his dad will be here probably sometime Wednesday and if he is behind, there will be hell to pay, or as our daughter put it, "There will be repercussions!"

I let him drive me to the store last night. He did pretty well and so did I. I managed not to be an annoying copilot.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2014, 04:25:11 AM
I think that is a great idea Jay Training with your Grandson.. motivate you too... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 04, 2014, 08:24:42 AM
good to have prime posting here and there,,,

chest /tri/abs home....good workout even tho home..

chest press wide grip x4
chest press side grip ss with flat flies 45/45/45 x3
decline press db 50/60 x2 12 reps
incl press 60/60 sets 8-10 x2
fdb press 60's 8 reps at top turn dbell inwards squeeze palms face each other at top x2
decline pushups 15-20 used perfect pushup handles lol,,they work good..

tris
pushdowns x3
reverse pushdowns x3
db 30/s lying extensions x10 reps
close grip curl bar presses

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 04, 2014, 09:52:59 AM
Back and Triceps

3iu Seros/100mg Tren Ace/50mg Mast P/60mg T-bol

Wide grip pulldowns ss w leaning back pulldowns 3 sets
Hammer pulldown machine with reverse grip 3 sets
2 handle seated pulley rows 3 sets
One arm hammer rows 3 sets
DB Pullovers 3 sets

Pushdowns 3 sets drop set on 3rd
Life fitness tricep extension super slow 3 sets
Life fitness dip machine super slow 3 sets
rope pushdowns 3 sets

did super slow sets just to piss off the crazy crossfit guy near me with the high socks and ran around real fast and did every set like dislocated a joint ws his main goal.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on February 05, 2014, 07:33:47 AM
chest/bis/calves:


incline smith machine   5 sets

incline flyes   5 sets


hammer curls 6 sets


seated calf raises 6 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 05, 2014, 09:04:39 AM
Delts/Traps

No power in the gym....hardcore!

4iu Seros/60mg T-bol

DB Laterals 2X100....insane.
Rear delt cables 4X50
Seated DB Press 35X20 40X20 45X15 50X12
Reverse Pek Dek 3X15
Cable side  laterals 2X25
Machine Shrugs 4X10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 05, 2014, 03:42:56 PM
2/4/2014

30 minutes of cardio on the recumbent bicycle

30 minute circuit training on Nautilus machines

Full body work out

1 set of 12 reps on 12 machines (approximately two movements per muscle group)

I kept the weight at baby weight, 60 to 80 lbs. on most exercises with the exception of leg presses and calf raises on which I used 220 lbs. I could have done more but I wanted to play it safe, this being my first foray into the gym in a long time aside from what I was doing for physical therapy for my knee those 10 weeks. While I am not the least bit sore, my body feels like it had some exercise and it feels good.

My grandson ran on the treadmill and then joined me on the neighboring recumbent bicycle for awhile. He watched television while I did Nautilus. I offered to spot him if he wanted to use free weights, but he didn't seem interested. I'm not going to push him. He wants to go again tomorrow. His parents will be here then, so that will be up to them to decide. He's shooting hoops with his friends right now.

I am soon off to pick up my wife from dialysis and take her back to the convalescent home. With all the driving, I have been filling the gas tank twice a week these past few weeks. The hospital bills have started rolling in. So far they total $75,000 and this doesn't include the last week and a half that Margie has been in the convalescent home. This is not what we will have to pay. Our copay has yet to be determined. Thank goodness for good health insurance.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 05, 2014, 07:10:49 PM
2/4/2014

30 minutes of cardio on the recumbent bicycle

30 minute circuit training on Nautilus machines

Full body work out

I set of 12 reps on 12 machines (approximately two movements per muscle group)

I kept the weight at baby weight, 60 to 80 lbs. on most exercises with the exception of leg presses and calf raises on which I used 220 lbs. I could have done more but I wanted to play it safe, this being my first foray into the gym in a long time aside from what I was doing for physical therapy for my knee those 10 weeks. While I am not the least bit sore, my body feels like it had some exercise and it feels good.

My grandson ran on the treadmill and then joined me on the neighboring recumbent bicycle for awhile. He watched television while I did Nautilus. I offered to spot him if he wanted to use free weights, but he didn't seem interested. I'm not going to push him. He wants to go again tomorrow. His parents will be here then, so that will be up to them to decide. He's shooting hoops with his friends right now.

I am soon off to pick up my wife from dialysis and take her back to the convalescent home. With all the driving, I have been filling the gas tank twice a week these past few weeks. The hospital bills have started rolling in. So far they total $75,000 and this doesn't include the last week and a half that Margie has been in the convalescent home. This is not what we will have to pay. Our copay has yet to be determined. Thank goodness for good health insurance. 
good to hear jay,,,god bless..your a good/strong man in life that means a lot..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 05, 2014, 07:43:17 PM
2/4/2014

30 minutes of cardio on the recumbent bicycle

30 minute circuit training on Nautilus machines

Full body work out

I set of 12 reps on 12 machines (approximately two movements per muscle group)

I kept the weight at baby weight, 60 to 80 lbs. on most exercises with the exception of leg presses and calf raises on which I used 220 lbs. I could have done more but I wanted to play it safe, this being my first foray into the gym in a long time aside from what I was doing for physical therapy for my knee those 10 weeks. While I am not the least bit sore, my body feels like it had some exercise and it feels good.

My grandson ran on the treadmill and then joined me on the neighboring recumbent bicycle for awhile. He watched television while I did Nautilus. I offered to spot him if he wanted to use free weights, but he didn't seem interested. I'm not going to push him. He wants to go again tomorrow. His parents will be here then, so that will be up to them to decide. He's shooting hoops with his friends right now.

I am soon off to pick up my wife from dialysis and take her back to the convalescent home. With all the driving, I have been filling the gas tank twice a week these past few weeks. The hospital bills have started rolling in. So far they total $75,000 and this doesn't include the last week and a half that Margie has been in the convalescent home. This is not what we will have to pay. Our copay has yet to be determined. Thank goodness for good health insurance. 

Jay you are an inspiration and a constant reminder of what a real man is. Thank you Ken
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 05, 2014, 07:51:06 PM
back'home gym'

pulldowns behind neck x4
close grip underhand front pulldownsx4
inc dbell row x3
low cble pully row underhand x3
stretch/pulldown to waist standing x2

bi's
seated db curls x3
curl bar curls x3
concentration curls x3
hammer curls across body x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2014, 01:31:58 AM
yesterday....

squats
Bench press
BB rows
shoulder press
Chins
Parallel bar Dips

never did abs as i think they got a good workout but today i will run and do some crunches after.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 06, 2014, 09:38:43 AM
Arms

250mg Galenika Test/100mg Tren Ace/50g Mast P/60mg T-bol

DB curls 4 sets
EZ bar Preachers 4 sets
Standing Concentration curls 4 sets
EZ bar Push downs 4 sets
Lying Skull Crushers 4 sets
One arm cable extensions 4 sets
High cable forearm curls 4 sets

 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 06, 2014, 07:44:32 PM
delts 'gym'

fr press 135/155/165/175 -135 drop
side laterals x2 this was killer 30/25/20/15 sets 8-10 reps per
rear delt machine x3
front raise curl bar 60/60/70
behind back rear cable raise

shrugs 225/275/295/315-225 drop

forearms cable reverse wrist curl x4
behind back wrist curl reverse x3

calves 6 sets 3 sets toes in /3 toes out did one in then out so on,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 06, 2014, 10:07:13 PM
Best laid plans.... I'd planned to go to the gym today but that didn't happen because at 12:30 p.m. the snow started falling and it has yet to let up. The street in front of our house is closed. I don't have 4 wheel drive or snow tires. This afternoon I watched a car slide into another car right in front of our house. Portlanders are cool with driving in the rain, not so much snow.

Our daughter and her husband were on the last leg of their trip home when the snow hit them south of Salem. It took them 3 hours to drive 20 miles in blizzard conditions. They finally arrived early this evening. Their SUV is a 4 wheel drive and they have chains on so they made it down the hill to the house and up our driveway okay.

I need to figure out what I am doing about getting my wife to dialysis tomorrow. I may have to hire medical transport to get her to the hospital. Also, she might be able to come home this weekend so let's hope the snow doesn't hang around too long.

I am going to get another gym day in this week if it kills me. It felt so good to workout, I can't wait to do it again.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 07, 2014, 09:33:24 AM
Best laid plans.... I'd planned to go to the gym today but that didn't happen because at 12:30 p.m. the snow started falling and it has yet to let up. The street in front of our house is closed. I don't have 4 wheel drive or snow tires. This afternoon I watched a car slide into another car right in front of our house. Portlanders are cool with driving in the rain, not so much snow.

Our daughter and her husband were on the last leg of their trip home when the snow hit them south of Salem. It took them 3 hours to drive 20 miles in blizzard conditions. They finally arrived early this evening. Their SUV is a 4 wheel drive and they have chains on so they made it down the hill to the house and up our driveway okay.

I need to figure out what I am doing about getting my wife to dialysis tomorrow. I may have to hire medical transport to get her to the hospital. Also, she might be able to come home this weekend so let's hope the snow doesn't hang around too long.

I am going to get another gym day in this week if it kills me. It felt so good to workout, I can't wait to do it again.
Jay get some home Training kit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2014, 01:27:04 PM
Jay get some home Training kit.

Great idea except with our daughter and her family moving back in, there is literally no place to set it up. Maybe it is just some frustration showing since the house went from being a quiet sanctuary to utter chaos last night when they finally arrived. Now there are our two dogs and their two dogs running around with lots of attitude. I haven't seen the Uhaul trailer they pulled to bring "just a few things" they thought they'd need until they get settled because it is parked up at the top of the hill. It must be pretty big though because they've made multiple trips unloading the contents into their SUV and into the house and garage. When I went out to the garage an hour ago, it was all but impassable. Sorry for unloading, I am one who doesn't do well with disruption I guess.

Although it is snowing to beat the band today as well, this won't last long. By Sunday, the rain will come and wash the snow away so I can go to the gym and escape the chaos around here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 07, 2014, 01:47:29 PM
Great idea except with our daughter and her family moving back in, there is literally no place to set it up. Maybe it is just some frustration showing since the house went from being a quiet sanctuary to utter chaos last night when they finally arrived. Now there are our two dogs and their two dogs running around with lots of attitude. I haven't seen the Uhaul trailer they pulled to bring "just a few things" they thought they'd need until they get settled because it is parked up at the top of the hill. It must be pretty big though because they've made multiple trips unloading the contents into their SUV and into the house and garage. When I went out to the garage an hour ago, it was all but impassable. Sorry for unloading, I am one who doesn't do well with disruption I guess.

Although it is snowing to beat the band today as well, this won't last long. By Sunday, the rain will come and wash the snow away so I can go to the gym and escape the chaos around here.
stay cool..you love them. anyway Jay get a home gym set up in there...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2014, 03:47:31 PM
It is a wintery day. Here are a couple of views out our front windows. Can you find the street? Someone's car parked off in the distance has been stuck there since yesterday.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 07, 2014, 09:10:37 PM
couple back pics/chest ,hard to take back shots and actually see whats going on back there,my workouts are heavy on rowing as u can tellby my workouts posting...staying pretty ripped back there for 45...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 08, 2014, 12:54:33 AM
Looking like Prime Beef Steve...NO HOMO ;D today i am going Swimming and then going for a meal with my Family. I just took one look at Jayīs pics and decided to go Swimming...lol. The snow here is almost all gone. yesterday it was very windy but not really too cold. Keep Pumpin Mature Trainers. Steve we are doing OK for our Age believe me, i trained a Young guy yesterday who was 24. He has to pass Fitness tests to be a Fire Fighter here. I thought it was a joke at first because the Guy is over 100 KG and fat. he has to do at least 3 chins and has a month to do it. I asked him if he can use any grip and so he will do supinated Palms towards him. I will beast his bubble arse round the Gym :D ;D So Jay and all you guys are still in great shape...believe me ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 08, 2014, 06:31:08 AM
PRIME BEEF LOL,,THANKS DONNY,,,I TRAIN ALL BODYPARTS TO THE MAX BUT WITH RIGHT EXECUTION IN REGARDS TO STRENGHT/REPS,LIKE WE SAID HERE HEAVY WEIGHTS DOES NOT ALWAYS EQUATE TO MORE SIZE,,IT'S COMBO OF ALL THINGS COMING TOGETHER,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 09, 2014, 01:24:58 AM
stuffed my face last night...was in a small German Restraunt and had a Steak with all the trimings...but hey i did eat a salad as well... ;D Today i will after work do a bit of cardio in the gym.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 09, 2014, 09:08:36 AM
today was a power leg day been a while...played heavy/volume today

leg press started 3 plates /4/5/6/7...12/12/12/10/8
squats this is where i pushed 225/275/315/365/405...12/10/10/10/6
leg extensions 205/220/235/190..12/12/12/till failure i think 18..

hams
sldl 145/165/205/245
leg curls lying 140/155/155

calves
leg press toe presses
seated calf raises
did slow ,stretched squeezed reps avg 12 lo/ hi 20 reps wise depends on weight added,i just put 45's on and on toll its heav y enough rep zone wise..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 09, 2014, 09:34:01 AM
Chest and Biceps

60mg T-bol

Decline Barbell Press 135X20 185X15 225X10 275X5
Incline DB Press 3X55X10
Flat bench Flies 3X35X12

Concentration curls 3x30x10
Standing BB curls 3X75X10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 09, 2014, 09:38:32 AM
Chest and Biceps

60mg T-bol

Decline Barbell Press 135X20 185X15 225X10 275X5
Incline DB Press 3X55X10
Flat bench Flies 3X35X12

Concentration curls 3x30x10
Standing BB curls 3X75X10

i hate decline barbell
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 09, 2014, 10:24:19 AM
i hate decline barbell

Yea I don't normally do them but my younger Brother likes them. I have to throw a bone his way every once in a while.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 09, 2014, 12:54:06 PM
today was a power leg day been a while...played heavy/volume today

leg press started 3 plates /4/5/6/7...12/12/12/10/8
squats this is where i pushed 225/275/315/365/405...12/10/10/10/6
leg extensions 205/220/235/190..12/12/12/till failure i think 18..

hams
sldl 145/165/205/245
leg curls lying 140/155/155

calves
leg press toe presses
seated calf raises
did slow ,stretched squeezed reps avg 12 lo/ hi 20 reps wise depends on weight added,i just put 45's on and on toll its heav y enough rep zone wise..

That's an amazing amount of weight to use on leg extensions. Are you able to pause at the top of the exercise with 235 lbs? I think the most weight I have ever used was 200 lbs. on leg extensions. I like to get in a good squeeze and pause at the top of each rep, mainly because it makes the thigh muscles pop and I like how that looks.  ;D

What you are doing is certainly working. I didn't think your quads could get much bigger and more cut, but they have. Soon you will need custom made trousers.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 09, 2014, 12:59:20 PM
i hate decline barbell

I prefer decline bench presses to flat or incline. I do them on the Smith because I don't need a spot since I can rack the weight at pretty much any point, which reduces the fear of dropping the weight on my neck. There is also a Hammer Strength machine design as a wide grip decline press even though you do them sitting up in the machine. Since you aren't working against gravity, you need to up the weight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 09, 2014, 05:42:45 PM
I prefer decline bench presses to flat or incline. I do them on the Smith because I don't need a spot since I can rack the weight at pretty much any point, which reduces the fear of dropping the weight on my neck. There is also a Hammer Strength machine design as a wide grip decline press even though you do them sitting up in the machine. Since you aren't working against gravity, you need to up the weight.
i agree,,i do decline dbells if i do them,dips by far is the best overall chest/upperpec delt you can do ,donny is on this too,,,prime hope all is well on your front as well,my wife is getting there ,but she's doing too much ,its tough 3 kids ,1 is a baby she needs to be mother ,i do laundry .fold,dishes by hand,dishwasher fill and uunload,outsie i had to dig in inches of snow and ice to find oil cap so oil company can bring oil,,it never ends i do all yhis after that massive 'leg workout'.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 10, 2014, 01:53:15 AM
i agree,,i do decline dbells if i do them,dips by far is the best overall chest/upperpec delt you can do ,donny is on this too,,,prime hope all is well on your front as well,my wife is getting there ,but she's doing too much ,its tough 3 kids ,1 is a baby she needs to be mother ,i do laundry .fold,dishes by hand,dishwasher fill and uunload,outsie i had to dig in inches of snow and ice to find oil cap so oil company can bring oil,,it never ends i do all yhis after that massive 'leg workout'.
yeah Dips are great for pecs,delts...triceps ... every upper Body muscle really. you are doing a great Job Steve. Just get through it and in summer you will i am sure be much more relaxed and settled. Last night i did some interval cardio on the bike, a woman kept annoying me with questions and i said i am finished work and will Train. she walked away and then came over and talked non stop next to me as i was doing my workout. Now when i do 30 mins interval i Train fairly high intensive so i really donīt have energy for small talk. I guess i am just too good natured. I mean i know i could have had my evil way but i can control myself. This is why i like to run outside on my own. no distractions. The Gym is not massive by say US Standards but not bad for here and so you get to know a lot of People.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 10, 2014, 05:35:48 PM
Leg Day!
150mg TrenA/50mg Mast P/60mg T-bol

Leg Extensions 3X15
Leg Presses 3X20
Hack Squats 3X10
Leg Curls 3X15
Stiff Legs 3X10
Standing Calf 3X20
Seated Calf 3X10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 10, 2014, 06:57:40 PM
Leg Day!
150mg TrenA/50mg Mast P/60mg T-bol

Leg Extensions 3X15
Leg Presses 3X20
Hack Squats 3X10
Leg Curls 3X15
Stiff Legs 3X10
Standing Calf 3X20
Seated Calf 3X10
very good young jedi..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 10, 2014, 06:59:38 PM
very good young jedi..
Mature....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 10, 2014, 07:05:09 PM
chest

fdb press 60/70/80/80  12/10/8/8
inc dbell 60/65/70-55 drop 10/8/5-6
hammer lower press seated 2 plates/2.5 /3 plates drop to 2 plates single arm 12/10/8-8
cable crossovers x3
dips weighted 25 lb plate x12/45 x8drop to bodyweight till failure


tris
dip machine 190/210/210 all 12 reps
pushdowns straight bar x3
close grip x3 135/165/175 drop to 135
overhead cable rope extensions x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 10, 2014, 07:05:44 PM
Mature....
:D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 10, 2014, 07:50:32 PM
Thanks guys.....starting to have pretty bad right shoulder problems....left one already surgically re-attached. Guess its MRI time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on February 10, 2014, 10:39:30 PM
delts/bis:


side laterals (unilateral) 5 sets

reverse cable flyes   3 sets

smith machine presses 4 sets

db shrugs  3 sets

hammer curls   6 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 11, 2014, 11:25:20 AM
Back and Triceps

60mg t-bol

Hammer one arm rows ala X man 5/4/3/2/1 reps alternate arms 3 sets
Dual DB rows 3 sets 60s
One arm pulldowns xman 5/4/3/2/1 reps alternate arms 3 sets
DB pullovers real slow 3 sets 50X10

Tricep pushdowns 3 distances moving forward every 10 reps 3 sets
Life Fitness Tricep Extension 1 1/4 reps 3 sets
Hammer Incline close grip X man 5/4/3/2/1 reps alternate arms 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 11, 2014, 03:45:30 PM
i agree,,i do decline dbells if i do them,dips by far is the best overall chest/upperpec delt you can do ,donny is on this too,,,prime hope all is well on your front as well,my wife is getting there ,but she's doing too much ,its tough 3 kids ,1 is a baby she needs to be mother ,i do laundry .fold,dishes by hand,dishwasher fill and uunload,outsie i had to dig in inches of snow and ice to find oil cap so oil company can bring oil,,it never ends i do all yhis after that massive 'leg workout'.

-Brought Margie home from the convalescent home today. She's pretty weak still. It is better to be home though. Nobody likes convalescent homes because they feel like places people go to die although hospice is in a different wing than the one my wife was in. An old African American lady in the room next to the one my wife was in, called out to me as I walked down the hall. When I glanced her way she was flashing her tit at me. Crazy!

I am fortunate to have our daughter and son-in-law here to help me with Margie. The snow is pretty much melted. My son-in-law and grandson cleared the driveway of snow the other day which was great because I was beginning to get cabin fever. Soon as the driveway was clear, I drove up to the store. Our dishwasher is on the fritz. The new one I bought is due to be installed on the 18th.

I will probably get some gym time in on Thursday. Today is just a little hectic. Tomorrow Margie has dialysis, which blows the day. I feel great though. I weighed 196 lbs. this morning. My gut is getting smaller, which is always a plus.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 11, 2014, 03:52:24 PM
-Brought Margie home from the convalescent home today. She's pretty weak still. It is better to be home though. Nobody likes convalescent homes because they feel like places people go to die although hospice is in a different wing than the one my wife was in. An old African American lady in the room next to the one my wife was in, called out to me as I walked down the hall. When I glanced her way she was flashing her tit at me. Crazy!

I am fortunate to have our daughter and son-in-law here to help me with Margie. The snow is pretty much melted. My son-in-law and grandson cleared the driveway of snow the other day which was great because I was beginning to get cabin fever. Soon as the driveway was clear, I drove up to the store. Our dishwasher is on the fritz. The new one I bought is due to be installed on the 18th.

I will probably get some gym time in on Thursday. Today is just a little hectic. Tomorrow Margie has dialysis, which blows the day. I feel great though. I weighed 196 lbs. this morning. My gut is getting smaller, which is always a plus.

You have a great outlook and a wonderful perspective on what's important.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 11, 2014, 05:40:26 PM
-Brought Margie home from the convalescent home today. She's pretty weak still. It is better to be home though. Nobody likes convalescent homes because they feel like places people go to die although hospice is in a different wing than the one my wife was in. An old African American lady in the room next to the one my wife was in, called out to me as I walked down the hall. When I glanced her way she was flashing her tit at me. Crazy!

I am fortunate to have our daughter and son-in-law here to help me with Margie. The snow is pretty much melted. My son-in-law and grandson cleared the driveway of snow the other day which was great because I was beginning to get cabin fever. Soon as the driveway was clear, I drove up to the store. Our dishwasher is on the fritz. The new one I bought is due to be installed on the 18th.

I will probably get some gym time in on Thursday. Today is just a little hectic. Tomorrow Margie has dialysis, which blows the day. I feel great though. I weighed 196 lbs. this morning. My gut is getting smaller, which is always a plus.
nice jay pulling for you...get a home set up small stuff dbell's/bar small bench,,i'm home training i like it sometimes old school'rocky by the boiler downstairs pump a few sets then i train shirtless'lol'...rest of the way .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2014, 01:34:22 AM
yes if you have Little time or bad weather conditions then home Training is great.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 12, 2014, 05:49:59 AM
yes if you have Little time or bad weather conditions then home Training is great.
especially now we are getting bombed snow again here 4 storms 2 wks...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 12, 2014, 06:45:18 AM
We are supposed to get another foot tonight......over it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 12, 2014, 11:01:10 AM
Delts/Traps

150mg Tren Ace/50mg Mast Prop/60mg T-bol

DB side laterals ala X-man 1 and 1/4 reps other arm held out. 2 sets 10 reps 15s

Combo laterals 10 side/10 front/10 front hammer grip/10 rear/10 side db swings total 50 reps 15s 3 sets

Rear cable crossovers super slow 3 sets 15

Side lateral one arm cables 1 and 1/4 reps 2 sets 10

Machine shoulder press 1 drop set

Machine shrugs 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on February 12, 2014, 11:52:34 AM
last night....

chest and cardio:


incline smith  6 sets

incline flyes  6 sets

18 minutes elliptical
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on February 12, 2014, 11:55:12 AM
tonight......


back training:

lat pulldowns  3 sets

hammer strength high rows  3 sets

low cable rows with the rope attachment  3 sets

chest supported t bar rows  2 sets

hyperextensions 2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 12, 2014, 03:15:45 PM
Dips used to be my favorite exercise by far. I like to do them wide for chest and narrow for triceps and I'd do them at least 2x a week. However, now that I'm old (44) they seem to really do a number on my joints, particularly my wrists. I worked through the pain until this weekend and have taken a break since then (I'm going to try and do legs tonight). The wrists are slowly feeling better but I'd hate to give up this movement.

Any of u old guys experience anything like this?

Due to having 2 bad shoulders I have to be very careful with dips/chins and even push-ups. I go through periods where I can do them any do. Right now shoulder is so bad I can't do one dip.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 12, 2014, 07:58:12 PM
Dips used to be my favorite exercise by far. I like to do them wide for chest and narrow for triceps and I'd do them at least 2x a week. However, now that I'm old (44) they seem to really do a number on my joints, particularly my wrists. I worked through the pain until this weekend and have taken a break since then (I'm going to try and do legs tonight). The wrists are slowly feeling better but I'd hate to give up this movement.

Any of u old guys experience anything like this?

The gym where I workout has a Nautilus weight assisted dip machine. The nice thing about this is that you can preform the movement regardless of whether you are able to hoist your own weight. I find that I benefit from exercises where I am not totally maxing myself out weight-wise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 12, 2014, 08:03:23 PM
married 9 yrs tomm,,had dinner out 2 nite due to major storm hitting tomm,nice italian dinner and vino...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 12, 2014, 08:04:31 PM
married 9 yrs tomm,,had dinner out 2 nite due to major storm hitting tomm,nice italian dinner and vino...

Congrats Steve....just picked up some diamond earrings for Valentine's day in case we can stuck tomorrow!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 13, 2014, 01:29:04 AM
The gym where I workout has a Nautilus weight assisted dip machine. The nice thing about this is that you can preform the movement regardless of whether you are able to hoist your own weight. I find that I benefit from exercises where I am not totally maxing myself out weight-wise.
yes we got a chin/dip assist machine too.. not bad at all but i am still doing Dips no Problem and chins. I find Dips better for my shoulders than bench press. I always liked doing Dips and push ups superset style for chest... a few sets of flys afterwards and you are good to go.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 13, 2014, 02:18:49 AM
Try some of These moves.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on February 13, 2014, 09:01:54 AM
only working tris tonight.......close grip smith 3-4 sets.......lying db extensions 3 sets and finishing up with 3 sets of unilateral cable pushdowns 2-3 sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 13, 2014, 09:47:01 AM
Hey Donny my shoulder hurt just watching that.

Arms in the snow day...14 inches so far..more tonight. Gym still open. ;D

60mg T-bol

Unilateral seated DB curls tension on other arm 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets 15 lbs
Standing Alternate DB curls 25X20 30X15 35X12
One arm Cybex Preacher curls 3X12

Pushdowns with three different distances working in 10/10/10 3 sets
Cybex Dip Machine 1 and 1/4 reps 3X10
Reverse Grip pushdowns 3X10

High cable one arm forearm curls 3X10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 13, 2014, 12:06:57 PM
snow day alot of snow back/bi's

pulldowns behind neckx4
one arm db rowsx3
low cable rows x4
underhand close grip pulldownsx4
front stretch pulldowns to waist x3

bi's
db curls 30/45/45
curlbar curls x3 12 reps
hammer curls 45's x2
inc dbell curls x3 30lb dbell

abs

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 13, 2014, 05:55:15 PM
No thx. My wrists hurt just looking at that. 

I did manage to do legs yesterday and shoulders today. I did some chest but it was tough and I don't want to make things worse. I'm hoping I'm close to 100 percent next week. Not being able to train like u want sux.
what happened cholo??
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 13, 2014, 07:00:55 PM
I started doing heavy (for me) weighted dips for both chest and triceps a couple of times a week and developed a nasty case of tendinitis in both wrists. The inflammation is finally starting to go down. Pretty painful. If I had to work w/ my hands I would have been fucked as any pressure on the wrists was super-painful.
when i get bad on dips it hurts front delt area for me,,i love dips but when i add weight and too much it hurts...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 13, 2014, 11:34:21 PM
yeah just put the vid up for fun. I donīt think i would try some of that stuff either. I did Dips yesterday. I did my full Body workout and did chins and Dips at the end. Tell you guys i trained this Girl yesterday and she was so sweet. she had a bit oriental in her and massive breasts. I loved watching as they were sqeezed up against the chest pad on the seated lat row machine... nice low cut t Shirt.. :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 14, 2014, 06:30:09 PM
yeah just put the vid up for fun. I donīt think i would try some of that stuff either. I did Dips yesterday. I did my full Body workout and did chins and Dips at the end. Tell you guys i trained this Girl yesterday and she was so sweet. she had a bit oriental in her and massive breasts. I loved watching as they were sqeezed up against the chest pad on the seated lat row machine... nice low cut t Shirt.. :P

cool d,,,sounds nice ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 14, 2014, 06:36:08 PM
delts
db press 50/60/60-45 drop
side raises 25/30/35/35-25 drop normal straight sets not rack run like 'wez'
rear delt bent over cable raises x3
front raise dbell held hammer style slight bend in arm 30/35/40
dbell press arnold style x3

shrugs 225/275/295/315
rear shrugs 225 x2 x15 reps

forearms
wrist curl cable reverse
old school rope rollups weghted

calves 5 sets calf raise
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on February 16, 2014, 12:09:36 AM
leg work:

leg extensions  5 sets

smith squats   4 sets

seated leg curls 4 sets

seated calf raises 5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 16, 2014, 01:25:51 AM
leg work:

leg extensions  5 sets

smith squats   4 sets

seated leg curls 4 sets

seated calf raises 5 sets
I am not a big fan of Smith  squats or bench press. I have done it now and again but i just like doing it with a bar.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 16, 2014, 08:34:44 AM
Starting some crazy shit to bring my arms up.....100 reps hammer curls 5lb 100 reps lying DB curls on the floor 5lbs before bed.

Chest/Biceps

125mg TrenA/75mg Mast P/60mg T-bol

Hammer wide x-man style 3 sets 5/4/3/2/1/
Hammer inclines same
DB Inclines same with 30s
Cable crossovers 1 and 1/4 reps 3 sets

DB Preacher curls 25X20 30X15 35X12 40X10
One arm Cybex Preacher curls 3 sets
Cybec concentration curls 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 16, 2014, 09:43:37 AM
Starting some crazy shit to bring my arms up.....100 reps hammer curls 5lb 100 reps lying DB curls on the floor 5lbs before bed.

Chest/Biceps

125mg TrenA/75mg Mast P/60mg T-bol

Hammer wide x-man style 3 sets 5/4/3/2/1/
Hammer inclines same
DB Inclines same with 30s
Cable crossovers 1 and 1/4 reps 3 sets

DB Preacher curls 25X20 30X15 35X12 40X10
One arm Cybex Preacher curls 3 sets
Cybec concentration curls 3 sets
nice goodluck,,i try that stuff to extra days for a bodypart,,that's what i did for delts,,pump stuff,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 16, 2014, 09:45:17 AM
nice goodluck,,i try that stuff to extra days for a bodypart,,that's what i did for delts,,pump stuff,,,

Thanks Steve....we shall see!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 16, 2014, 10:13:26 AM
leg day

leg press 4/5/6/7 plates per side 12/12/10/10
hacks 3/4/5/ plates per 12/10/10
walking lunges 80lb bar on back walk the floor x2
extensions 205/220/235/240 all 12 rep sets

hams
sldl dbells 60/70/80/85 12-10 reps
lying leg curls 140/155/155 12/10/8 was cooked by now'never happens'

calves
leg press 3plates and 3.5 x3 reps 12-15
standing calf raise x3 toes pigeon toed slightly 200 on stack slow/stretch/squeeze 12 reps or failure x3

side note when my back was hurt last yr and i was recoupoing on own 'medicine/therapy'i bought 2 compression balls hard plastic for massages one could do on own lying on floor or wall .i was watching a jay cutler video and he is so thick massive that as a bber or someone who trains like all of use ,relative to our own size or muscluture that massage benefits muscle relaxing/blood flow/nerve decrompression,i did full body last nite spent 15 or so minutes really felt good felt loose at gym today and good pump esp calves .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 16, 2014, 10:33:11 AM
leg day

leg press 4/5/6/7 plates per side 12/12/10/10
hacks 3/4/5/ plates per 12/10/10
walking lunges 80lb bar on back walk the floor x2
extensions 205/220/235/240 all 12 rep sets

hams
sldl dbells 60/70/80/85 12-10 reps
lying leg curls 140/155/155 12/10/8 was cooked by now'never happens'

calves
leg press 3plates and 3.5 x3 reps 12-15
standing calf raise x3 toes pigeon toed slightly 200 on stack slow/stretch/squeeze 12 reps or failure x3

side note when my back was hurt last yr and i was recoupoing on own 'medicine/therapy'i bought 2 compression balls hard plastic for massages one could do on own lying on floor or wall .i was watching a jay cutler video and he is so thick massive that as a bber or someone who trains like all of use ,relative to our own size or muscluture that massage benefits muscle relaxing/blood flow/nerve decrompression,i did full body last nite spent 15 or so minutes really felt good felt loose at gym today and good pump esp calves .

yes i remember your Posts about your massage balls.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 16, 2014, 04:20:50 PM
yes i remember your Posts about your massage balls.... ;D
lol..thanks for reading,,thats why this thread is a1,,,,people actially read and comment and no flaming ..they work great donny,,i feel loos,,i just need to do it more frequently..can't afford real massage monthly...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: O.Z. on February 16, 2014, 04:58:55 PM
had a shoulders session last night:

-4 sets dumbbell press
-3 sets dumbbell side laterals
-3 sets dumbbell rear delt raises
-3 sets dumbbell shrugs

never use anything else for shoulders, always dumbbells, I believe you have much better movement control with dumbbells.

after shoulder session, 15 minutes of incline treadmill cardio session.
I have noticed a great fat burning results since I have started doing incline treadmill at 10% incline at medium speed, a couple weeks ago.
Much better for fat burning than doing it on flat.
Today is cardio day only, sixth consecutive visit to gym and tomorrow is a rest day with plenty of carb refeed :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 16, 2014, 05:05:05 PM
had a shoulders session last night:

-4 sets dumbbell press
-3 sets dumbbell side laterals
-3 sets dumbbell rear delt raises
-3 sets dumbbell shrugs

never use anything else for shoulders, always dumbbells, I believe you have much better movement control with dumbbells.

after shoulder session, 15 minutes of incline treadmill cardio session.
I have noticed a great fat burning results since I have started doing incline treadmill at 10% incline at medium speed, a couple weeks ago.
Much better for fat burning than doing it on flat.
Today is cardio day only, sixth consecutive visit to gym and tomorrow is a rest day with plenty of carb refeed :D
other than front press for delts and incline press/hammer lower /mid pec press machine..i use all dbells for chest/delt work...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 17, 2014, 01:33:43 AM
lol..thanks for reading,,thats why this thread is a1,,,,people actially read and comment and no flaming ..they work great donny,,i feel loos,,i just need to do it more frequently..can't afford real massage monthly...
you are an advanced Trainer. you know your own Body. Infact i learned a lot from your Posts on this subject. I am sure it was intresting for others on here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 17, 2014, 01:37:44 AM
had a shoulders session last night:

-4 sets dumbbell press
-3 sets dumbbell side laterals
-3 sets dumbbell rear delt raises
-3 sets dumbbell shrugs

never use anything else for shoulders, always dumbbells, I believe you have much better movement control with dumbbells.

after shoulder session, 15 minutes of incline treadmill cardio session.
I have noticed a great fat burning results since I have started doing incline treadmill at 10% incline at medium speed, a couple weeks ago.
Much better for fat burning than doing it on flat.
Today is cardio day only, sixth consecutive visit to gym and tomorrow is a rest day with plenty of carb refeed :D
yes  Dumbbells are perfect for upper Body workouts. Get some Interval Training in there ;) on the bike 20-30 mins. melt the fat like a hot knife through butter. cross Trainer i like to.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 17, 2014, 02:45:00 PM
Legs/Abs

70mg T-bol

Kneeling rope crunches 5 sets
Standing calf raises 3 sets
Seated calf raises 3 sets
Leg Extensions 3 sets
Leg Presses 3 sets
Leg Curls 3 sets
Stiff leg DL 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 18, 2014, 05:41:08 AM
CHEST

INC DB PRESS 50/60/70/75-55 DROP
HAMMER PRESS LOWER TO MID POINT SEATED
CABLE CROSSOVERS X4
FLAT DB PRESS AT TOP PORTION ROTATE HANDS IN SQUEEZE'PALMS ARE FACING IN AT END POINT'60/65/65-55 DROP
DIPS X2 X12 25 LBS ADDED AROUND WAIST

TRIS
OVERHEAD EXTENSION MACHINE X4
TRICEP PUSHDOWNS X3
KICK BACK CABLE X3
CLOSEGRIP BENCH X3

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 18, 2014, 06:41:30 AM
Squats
Bench press
BB rows(Palms facing)
Military press
Dips
BB curls

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 18, 2014, 06:53:30 AM
Squats
Bench press
BB rows(Palms facing)
Military press
Dips
BB curls


TO THE POINT CLASSIC POWER STUFF NICE,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 18, 2014, 07:04:39 AM
TO THE POINT CLASSIC POWER STUFF NICE,,,
yeah just Basic but i like it and as i wrote before, before summer a 3 day split with a Chest/back OFF Legs..Shoulder/arms split. Hitting it with volume. Got my plans.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 18, 2014, 07:10:48 AM
yeah just Basic but i like it and as i wrote before, before summer a 3 day split with a Chest/back OFF Legs..Shoulder/arms split. Hitting it with volume. Got my plans.
8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 18, 2014, 07:13:22 AM
Gonna be like a Beast  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 18, 2014, 07:29:58 AM
Gonna be like a Beast  ;D
GOOD GOAL...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 18, 2014, 07:50:19 AM
GOOD GOAL...
i have small Zane like Joints so i am not so thick as say you but i do ok. I am not however a "Hardgainer". I will maybe post a pic in summer.. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 18, 2014, 08:07:19 AM
i have small Zane like Joints so i am not so thick as say you but i do ok. I am not however a "Hardgainer". I will maybe post a pic in summer.. ;)
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BE GOOD TO SEE PROGRESS OR WHAT U BUILT UP..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 18, 2014, 08:14:28 AM
yes Steve. I am doing ok with 5x5 and i am getting stronger. Always been natural and never juiced. i know nothing about it to be Honest. I have never bothered with it. I canīt say iīm against it because i do not understand it and what it does...honest answer. I stick to my Thing and what i know.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 18, 2014, 08:33:02 AM
yes Steve. I am doing ok with 5x5 and i am getting stronger. Always been natural and never juiced. i know nothing about it to be Honest. I have never bothered with it. I canīt say iīm against it because i do not understand it and what it does...honest answer. I stick to my Thing and what i know.
GOOD OUTLOOK....ITS A COIN FLIP JUICING,,SOME PEOPLE LOOK GREAT ON IT,SOME PEOPLE ACTUALLY LOOK BETTER NATURAL THAN WHEN THEY JUICE,,ITS ALL ABOUT THE BASE ONE BUILDS PRIOR TO GOING ON AND STAYING ON TRAINING ON/OFF THAT DETERMINES HOW MUCH U KEEP'ITS POSSIBLE'AND OVER LONG TERM HOW SAFE.IF U HAD DONE BOTH CLEAN/ON YOU GET THE PERSPECTIVE BOTH WAYS.THERE'S ALWAYS THAT 'WHAT IF'SCENARIO HOW FAR CAN I TAKE MY DEVELPOMENT OR HOW STRONG ..TRAINING IS AWESOME/EATING AND GETTING RIPPED ,,,BUT TO AMASS A FREAK VERSION OF YOURSELF U HAVE TO 'USE'SOMETHING..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 18, 2014, 08:46:32 AM
GOOD OUTLOOK....ITS A COIN FLIP JUICING,,SOME PEOPLE LOOK GREAT ON IT,SOME PEOPLE ACTUALLY LOOK BETTER NATURAL THAN WHEN THEY JUICE,,ITS ALL ABOUT THE BASE ONE BUILDS PRIOR TO GOING ON AND STAYING ON TRAINING ON/OFF THAT DETERMINES HOW MUCH U KEEP'ITS POSSIBLE'AND OVER LONG TERM HOW SAFE.IF U HAD DONE BOTH CLEAN/ON YOU GET THE PERSPECTIVE BOTH WAYS.THERE'S ALWAYS THAT 'WHAT IF'SCENARIO HOW FAR CAN I TAKE MY DEVELPOMENT OR HOW STRONG ..TRAINING IS AWESOME/EATING AND GETTING RIPPED ,,,BUT TO AMASS A FREAK VERSION OF YOURSELF U HAVE TO 'USE'SOMETHING..
yes i know People who do Juice and are just doing their Thing for what ever Goals. I treat everyone the same and on here too. I really am neutral on it. Some great Guys on here who use...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 18, 2014, 07:18:28 PM
I trained natty for 33 years before I started juicing....The Test really does make you feel good. Some of the other stuff not so much.

Back/Triceps....still having a lot of problems with the right shoulder....going to stick to uni-lateral movements for a while.

125 TrenA/75Mast P/60 T-bol

Hammer pull downs uni-lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets 1 plate each side
Hammer rows same 2 plates each side
Straight arm pull downs 3 sets
Life Fitness reverse grip rows 1 and 1/4 reps 3 sets

Lots of pushdowns various handles and rope drop sets
Life Fitness triceps extension 1 and 1/4 reps 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 19, 2014, 09:09:37 AM
Delts/Traps

25mg D-bol/50mg Var

Smith machine Presses 95X20 115X20 135X15 160X12 185X8 95X25
DB Side Laterals 30X20 35X15 40X10 drop set 40/30/20/10
Front Laterals thumbs up 4X25X10
Rear Delt Cable Crossovers 3X20

5 way laterals side/front/front thumbs up/rear/side swings 50 reps 2 sets
DB Shrugs 4X80X10
Wide grip smith upright rows 2X25
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 19, 2014, 09:42:22 AM
Delts/Traps

25mg D-bol/50mg Var

Smith machine Presses 95X20 115X20 135X15 160X12 185X8 95X25
DB Side Laterals 30X20 35X15 40X10 drop set 40/30/20/10
Front Laterals thumbs up 4X25X10
Rear Delt Cable Crossovers 3X20

5 way laterals side/front/front thumbs up/rear/side swings 50 reps 2 sets
DB Shrugs 4X80X10
Wide grip smith upright rows 2X25
I DO THE FRONT LATERALS THAT WAY TOO LAST WK I LIKE IT.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 19, 2014, 10:26:51 AM
Wez - I admire the fact that u publish your "supplement" intake. I wish the muscle mags would have done that in the training articles when I was a kid. It would have spared me a lot of heartache. However, your protocols seem sort of random. Am I wrong? Or is that by design?

The injects are very laid out....I just changed orals if that's what you mean. I got some D-bol that I didn't really want. I usually only run Var or T-bol for orals. But since I got some..........
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 19, 2014, 10:36:57 AM
Got it.

My injects are simple.....Test and either 1. Primo 2. EQ 3. Tren/Mast.
I rotate the three.

orals in and out.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 19, 2014, 01:56:05 PM
i have small Zane like Joints so i am not so thick as say you but i do ok. I am not however a "Hardgainer". I will maybe post a pic in summer.. ;)

A picture would be great! Why wait until summer though?

I have big Neanderthal joints. My wrist are 7 5/8" (same as the circumference of another body-part -- I wish!). Actually my ankles are fairly small, but then so are my calves. This is a good thing or I would have "krankles" like some folks do. I was 195 lbs. this morning, not as low as a couple of days ago when I was 192.5 lbs. but I am getting leaner all the time and so far, I like how it feels and looks. Let's hope that little voice in my head doesn't start telling me I am too skinny like it has in the past. I think for a guy who is just 1/4" shy of 5'11", 185 lbs. might be a good "beach body" weight for me.

Took my wife to the hospital for dialysis today. They did some labs first. It turned out that she didn't need dialysis. Yahoo! We'll see how it goes on Friday when they do labs again. We're hopeful that she is finally on the mend. She's lost over 40 lbs. in the last month since all this happened. Of course there was a time when she actually looked like an overfilled water balloon several weeks ago. Most of the weight loss is water weight. Her ankles are looking almost as skinny as mine now. She is starting to move about the house with more confidence, better balance and surefootedness. Almost two weeks laying around in a hospital bed is hard on the body. It is amazing how quickly one loses muscle tone and strength when they are doing nothing. She'll be starting home physical therapy in the next day or two.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 19, 2014, 02:04:14 PM
A picture would be great! Why wait until summer though?

I have big Neanderthal joints. My wrist are 7 5/8" (same as the circumference of another body-part -- I wish!). Actually my ankles are fairly small, but then so are my calves. This is a good thing or I would have "krankles" like some folks do. I was 195 lbs. this morning, not as low as a couple of days ago when I was 192.5 lbs. but I am getting leaner all the time and so far, I like how it feels and looks. Let's hope that little voice in my head doesn't start telling me I am too skinny like it has in the past. I think for a guy who is just 1/4" shy of 5'11", 185 lbs. might be a good "beach body" weight for me.

Took my wife to the hospital for dialysis today. They did some labs first. It turned out that she didn't need dialysis. Yahoo! We'll see how it goes on Friday when they do labs again. We're hopeful that she is finally on the mend. She's lost over 40 lbs. in the last month since all this happened. Of course there was a time when she actually looked like an overfilled water balloon several weeks ago. Most of the weight loss is water weight. Her ankles are looking almost as skinny as mine now. She is starting to move about the house with more confidence, better balance and surefootedness. Almost two weeks laying around in a hospital bed is hard on the body. It is amazing how quickly one loses muscle tone and strength when they are doing nothing. She'll be starting home physical therapy in the next day or two.  
nice jay,,nice to hear from you...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 19, 2014, 02:11:45 PM
yes Steve. I am doing ok with 5x5 and i am getting stronger. Always been natural and never juiced. i know nothing about it to be Honest. I have never bothered with it. I canīt say iīm against it because i do not understand it and what it does...honest answer. I stick to my Thing and what i know.

From my experience, it is best to consult with a legitimate doctor prior to "juicing" and then follow the doctor's prescribed dosages. Some folks, have low testosterone levels. My first experience with D-bol was when my parents took me too the doctor to find out why I was so thin despite that I ate well. He determined through blood tests that I needed a boost in testosterone levels and prescribed D-bol and once weekly shots of testosterone. This was when I was 16 years old.

Currently I am on testosterone cypionate as prescribed by my urologist for low testosterone. Again, I follow his prescribed dosage. To me some "muscleheads" or musclehead wannabes who take enormous quantities of ABS in excessive dosages are simply asking for trouble. Our bodies are amazingly resilient, but everyone has some breaking point. If bodybuilding and exercise are primarily for good health, it makes no sense for people to ruin their health for the sake of bigger muscles.

The bottom line is this Donny, if you don't need ABS for medical reasons, don't take them. You are a smart man who makes good decisions. It does not surprise me that you have the position you have with regards to juicing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 20, 2014, 11:06:52 AM
Arms Day
100mg TrenA/100mg Mast P
pre-workout 25mg D-bol/50mg Var

Cybex One arm preacher curls 3X15
One arm rope push downs 3X15
Concentration curls 3X10X30
Skull Crushers 3X10X95
Smith Drag Curls 3X15
One arm reverse push downs 3X10
High pulley one arm forearm curls 3X10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 20, 2014, 07:20:51 PM
wed back/bi/abs

did ronnie coleman style rows bar into corner wall,short bar and row got up to 7 25's on bar did 5 sets pyramid weight up
chin ups x3 wide grip added 2 10's extra weight 12/10 reps
reverse hammer pulldown x3 used side grip palms facing in ..
low row chest to pad machine x3 got up to 210 on stack all reps 10 or over
rope pulls to waist  stretch out pull in rope to hips and squeeze x2

bi's
seated curl machine x3 12 plus on reps doing some arm stuff a bit higher reps /wez seems to like it..
inc db curls x3 30/35/35
curl bar premade 70/80/80 10 reps per..

abs
lying crunches legs propped on bench x3 30 reps per
roman chair x2
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 20, 2014, 07:31:44 PM
delts
superset nite

front press 135 x10 with 25 lb side laterals /155x10 with 30 lb side laterals /165 with 30/175 x7 with 30's

cable bent over reverse rear delt with cable up right rows x3 and 3

behind back cable raises x3 with shrugs on hammer lying chest press 3/4/4.5 plates  then 2 sets of 20 45 lb plate per hand shrug

calves 5 sets 3 toe positions sets 20/24 reps per set

forarms ..rollups rope weighted /reverse cable behind back wrist curls/cable curl wrist curls reverse on knees.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 20, 2014, 07:42:10 PM
real nice workouts Steve......made me want to run to the gym just reading them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 20, 2014, 08:05:08 PM
real nice workouts Steve......made me want to run to the gym just reading them.
thanks ...mutual respect  :)..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 21, 2014, 12:34:30 AM
From my experience, it is best to consult with a legitimate doctor prior to "juicing" and then follow the doctor's prescribed dosages. Some folks, have low testosterone levels. My first experience with D-bol was when my parents took me too the doctor to find out why I was so thin despite that I ate well. He determined through blood tests that I needed a boost in testosterone levels and prescribed D-bol and once weekly shots of testosterone. This was when I was 16 years old.

Currently I am on testosterone cypionate as prescribed by my urologist for low testosterone. Again, I follow his prescribed dosage. To me some "muscleheads" or musclehead wannabes who take enormous quantities of ABS in excessive dosages are simply asking for trouble. Our bodies are amazingly resilient, but everyone has some breaking point. If bodybuilding and exercise are primarily for good health, it makes no sense for people to ruin their health for the sake of bigger muscles.

The bottom line is this Donny, if you don't need ABS for medical reasons, don't take them. You are a smart man who makes good decisions. It does not surprise me that you have the position you have with regards to juicing.
thanks Jay... nothing against People who Juice just not for me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 22, 2014, 03:35:44 PM
sat worked all day,,did total body extra day 2 sets and 15 reps each

flye x2
chest press side grip x2
reg db chpress x2

back
behind neck pulldown
low row reverse
fr pull down ..all x2

bi
db curls
curl bar
concentration curl all x2
 
tri's
lying db extension
revers pushdown
reg pushdowns

delts 2 sets side/fr dbraise done together side down to front down ect....


feeling/looking well,eating clean and still pulling in some crappy sugar carbs still zero cardio
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 23, 2014, 01:30:10 AM
amazing that you look like that without cardio.. great Genetics. Talking of Cardio i will go running tonight. Last night i did not because Friday i did my 5x5 workout and it really takes 3 days till i fully recover with it. Running a Day later is very taxing and although i am only doing squats or Deadlifts each full Body workout, my quads are F*cked. i could not do 5x5 3 times a week like Reg Park did.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 23, 2014, 05:55:06 AM
amazing that you look like that without cardio.. great Genetics. Talking of Cardio i will go running tonight. Last night i did not because Friday i did my 5x5 workout and it really takes 3 days till i fully recover with it. Running a Day later is very taxing and although i am only doing squats or Deadlifts each full Body workout, my quads are F*cked. i could not do 5x5 3 times a week like Reg Park did.
cool stuff donny,you like training,all around fitness wise .sometimesi dofeellike i flood toomany pics here,i try to take breaks i will,i when i train at home i pump up and i like to train like 70's shirtless lol,,,so i always grasb camera,i would never/ever do it in the gym lol,,iprogress wise i still can't believe how my delts have popped up in past 2 yrs,,reps/reps/reps i figured it out the heavy shit dosen't work for me on delts ...chest i could do 6 re/8rep sets but even there i been doing drops too..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 23, 2014, 08:18:23 AM
cool stuff donny,you like training,all around fitness wise .sometimesi dofeellike i flood toomany pics here,i try to take breaks i will,i when i train at home i pump up and i like to train like 70's shirtless lol,,,so i always grasb camera,i would never/ever do it in the gym lol,,iprogress wise i still can't believe how my delts have popped up in past 2 yrs,,reps/reps/reps i figured it out the heavy shit dosen't work for me on delts ...chest i could do 6 re/8rep sets but even there i been doing drops too..
yeah... i just like Training for staying in shape and i am not looking for Detail in every Body part just Lifting and Training it all. I have enjoyed splits too. i know iīll never bench 150 kg..like some of the guys on here or lift like you do. Still i enjoy what i do and like to have heart and lung Fitness too. hope my legs are ok for my run later, if not iīll power walk and after work tomorrow hit the Bike for an Interval sesh... ;) funny iīm doing 5x5 and another guy who i work with is doing 10x10 at the Moment.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 23, 2014, 11:01:00 AM
leg day
pumped quads today little less weight /different leg press

squats 135/225/275/315/365...15/12/12/12/12
leg press lying sled on a weighted stack flat on back/chain driven, older machine x3 12 reps maxxed 240
lunges 50's db walking
extensions x3 205/220/235 12/12/12

hams
seated ham curl 180/195/210/210

calves leg press x4 3 plates/3.5/3.5/3.5 rep 15 -12

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 23, 2014, 03:06:32 PM
Chest and Biceps...both of my in-laws are dying. Was staying down at their hose so trained at a different gym.

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Life fitness Pec dek 3X10
Hammer Incline uni-lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets
Hammer Decline uni-lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets
Cable crossovers 1/ 1/4 reps 3 sets
Life Fitness Chest Press super slow reps 3 sets

Life fitness incline bicep curl 4 sets
Life Fitness preacher one arm curls 4 sets
Hammer concentration curls 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 23, 2014, 07:34:41 PM
Chest and Biceps...both of my in-laws are dying. Was staying down at their hose so trained at a different gym.

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Life fitness Pec dek 3X10
Hammer Incline uni-lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets
Hammer Decline uni-lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets
Cable crossovers 1/ 1/4 reps 3 sets
Life Fitness Chest Press super slow reps 3 sets

Life fitness incline bicep curl 4 sets
Life Fitness preacher one arm curls 4 sets
Hammer concentration curls 3 sets
sorry to hear news bro ken..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 24, 2014, 01:14:05 AM
x2 sorry to hear it... :(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 24, 2014, 06:09:05 AM
Thanks guys.....one day at a time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 24, 2014, 06:11:52 AM
Thanks guys.....one day at a time.
VALERIE BERTINELLI WAS HOT IN THAT SHOW...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 24, 2014, 06:14:26 AM
VALERIE BERTINELLI WAS HOT IN THAT SHOW...

She was the other one wasn't!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 24, 2014, 08:05:15 AM
Legs/Abs

100mg TrenA/100mg MastP

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Leg Extensions 6 sets
Hack Squats 6 sets
Standing leg curls 6 sets
Seated calf raises 6 sets
Kneeling rope ab crunches 6 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 25, 2014, 09:28:03 AM
today was

Deadlifts 5x5
bench press 5x5
BB rows 5x5
barbell press 5x5
Chins 3xmax
Dips 3xmax
sit ups on incline bench 3x20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: O.Z. on February 25, 2014, 06:31:47 PM
took a week off and had a break from dieting. Funny thing I ate all kind of crap for a week and put only 1.5kg back.
Back to business now, did a leg workout last night:

warm up-incline treadmill
leg press 4 sets
squat-4 sets,
leg extension 3 sets

not a big fan of leg workouts probably because of my height, takes forever to squat.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 25, 2014, 06:56:03 PM
Delts/traps/triceps

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Hammer shoulder press iso tension 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets then 2 sets slow reps
Life fitness side lateral ss one arm behind the back side laterals 6 sets
Rear delt pec dek 3 sets
Pulls to the face 3 sets
EZ bar Steve front raises palms up 4 sets

Smith fat bar close grips 4 sets
shit load of pushdowns
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 26, 2014, 07:07:18 AM
CHEST...
INC DBELLS.55/60/70/75
HAMMER PRESS SIT UP VERSION 2 PLATES/2.5/3PLATES
FLAT PRESS ROTATING PALMS FACING AT TOP 'SQUEEZE' X3 55/60/60
CABLE CROSSOVERS X3
SUPERSET INC DB FLYES WITH DIPS 10X10 X2

TRIS
OVERHEAD ROPE EXTENSIONS X4
PUSHDOWNS X3
REVERSE PUSHDOWNS X3
CLOSE GRIP X2

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 26, 2014, 09:46:21 AM
Great workouts going on  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 26, 2014, 03:56:58 PM
Back

200mg Primo E

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Wide grip palms facing pull downs 5 sets
Rope pulls to waist 3 sets
Hammer row iso-lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets
Nautilus Pullovers 3 sets

Arms with wife

pushdowns ss w cable curls 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 26, 2014, 08:04:02 PM
back
front pulldowns x3
tbar row x3 2.5/3/3.5 plates
low cable row x3 180/195/195
one arm db row 80/90/90
rope pull ins to waist x3

weighted hypers

bis
db curls30/40/40sets 12
hammer rope curlsx3
inc db curls 30/35/35
curls strait bar x2 85 lbs

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on February 27, 2014, 05:26:09 PM
Arms

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Pushdowns ss alt DB curls 6 sets
Cybex Dips ss one arm cybex preacher curls 3 sets
Chain Extensions ss Smith drag curls 3 sets
One arm high pulley forearm curls 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 27, 2014, 08:00:28 PM
delts
side raises 20/25/30/35/35\
behind neck x3
rear delt raises x3 25/25/30
front raise straight bar 55/65/75\
upright rows smithx3

shrugs 225/275/295
rear shrugs x3

calves
standing calf raises x5

forarms
reverse curls x3
wrist curls straight bar behind back x3




Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 27, 2014, 09:54:22 PM
Arms

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Pushdowns ss alt DB curls 6 sets
Cybex Dips ss one arm cybex preacher curls 3 sets
Chain Extensions ss Smith drag curls 3 sets
One arm high pulley forearm curls 4 sets
Drag curls ...a nice one. never see it much at least not here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 02, 2014, 01:10:12 AM
Today full Body and Cardio. The weather is a lot better outside so i think i will start cycling outdoors.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 02, 2014, 02:02:56 PM
Chest and Biceps

25mg D-bol/50mg Var

Hammer Incline Press Iso Lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets
Flat bench DB curls 60/70/80/90
Cable Crossovers 1 and 1/4 reps 3 sets
Life Fitness Bench super slow Ergo reps 2 sets

Life Fitness one arm preacher curls 3 sets
Life Fitness Incline curls iso-lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets
Cable curls behind the head 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 02, 2014, 10:38:41 PM
Friday........leg work........extensions 5 sets......smith squats 4 sets......seated leg curls 4 sets......seated calf raises 5 sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 02, 2014, 10:40:31 PM
Sunday.......chest and bis:

incline smith machine  4 sets

db floor presses  4 sets

incline flyes  4 sets

hammer curls  7 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 03, 2014, 05:36:06 AM
sat leg day forgot to post off boards few days lol,,,

superset hack squats 2/3/4/5 plates w/lying sled press ..liking this older machine again,taking break from traditional leg press.
superset lunges 80 lbs walking x4 w/extenions 190/205/220/220

hams
sldl w/lying leg curls..135/185/225..140/140/140 tough gassed and pumped on these
seated leg curl 180/195/195

calves
seated calf raise x3 slow /stretch/hold top/then I threw in lower portion stretch and raise to flat position few reps...2 days still sore under lower portion soleus
standing calf raise x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 03, 2014, 07:54:49 AM
Sunday.......chest and bis:

incline smith machine  4 sets

db floor presses  4 sets

incline flyes  4 sets

hammer curls  7 sets

I love floor presses...just have trouble getting up off the floor ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 03, 2014, 11:15:34 AM
Just beasted my sorry ass on the cross Trainer today ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 03, 2014, 11:24:42 AM
Legs/Abs

250m Galenika Test/200mg Primo E

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Lying leg Curls super slow Ergo reps 6 sets
Leg Extensions super slow Ergo reps 6 sets
Front Squats 3X135x20
Calf raises on Leg Press 6X50 reps with 5 plates per side
Kneeling rope crunches 5X20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 03, 2014, 11:34:59 AM
Legs/Abs

250m Galenika Test/200mg Primo E

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Lying leg Curls super slow Ergo reps 6 sets
Leg Extensions super slow Ergo reps 6 sets
Front Squats 3X135x20
Calf raises on Leg Press 6X50 reps with 5 plates per side
Kneeling rope crunches 5X20
FRONT SQUATS ARE KILLER WEZZZIE...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 03, 2014, 02:09:27 PM
FRONT SQUATS ARE KILLER WEZZZIE...

I hate them...especially 20 rep. I do them like the old breathing squats...10 reps then 1 at a time until I hit 20. I can't regular squat anymore because I can't hold the bar from my shoulder surgeries. But they blow up my quads.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 04, 2014, 12:59:09 AM
I hate them...especially 20 rep. I do them like the old breathing squats...10 reps then 1 at a time until I hit 20. I can't regular squat anymore because I can't hold the bar from my shoulder surgeries. But they blow up my quads.
i did them too when i had a shoulder Problem. A guy at the gyms uses it and likes it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 04, 2014, 04:53:33 AM
i did them too when i had a shoulder Problem. A guy at the gyms uses it and likes it.


I used to have a stingray....don't know what happened to it. I guess it's with my arm blaster ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 04, 2014, 06:08:17 AM
CHEST AND TRI'S ABS...

FDB PRESS 60/70/80/85 12/10/10/8
INC DB PRESS 65/70/70
HAMMER PRESS SEATED LOWER/MID PORTION 2/3/3 PLATES 12/10/10 FORCED
LOWER CABLE FLYES X2
UPPER CABLE CROSSOVERS X2
DIPS X2 12/15 SUPERSET ELEVATED PUSHUPS TILL FAILURE..

TRIS
TRISET BOMB SETS EXTENSION MACHINE/PUSHDOWNS/REVERSE PUSHDOWNS X3 ...GREAT PUMP
FINISHED 2 SETS CABLE KICK BACKS 1ST SET 12 REPS,,,2ND SET 10 REPS PER ARM THEN SWITCH BACK NO REST GO 10 EACH AGAIN

ABS..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 04, 2014, 09:11:37 AM
CHEST AND TRI'S ABS...

FDB PRESS 60/70/80/85 12/10/10/8
INC DB PRESS 65/70/70
HAMMER PRESS SEATED LOWER/MID PORTION 2/3/3 PLATES 12/10/10 FORCED
LOWER CABLE FLYES X2
UPPER CABLE CROSSOVERS X2
DIPS X2 12/15 SUPERSET ELEVATED PUSHUPS TILL FAILURE..

TRIS
TRISET BOMB SETS EXTENSION MACHINE/PUSHDOWNS/REVERSE PUSHDOWNS X3 ...GREAT PUMP
FINISHED 2 SETS CABLE KICK BACKS 1ST SET 12 REPS,,,2ND SET 10 REPS PER ARM THEN SWITCH BACK NO REST GO 10 EACH AGAIN

ABS..
Dips and push ups supersets are great Steve. Today i did...

Squats
BB rows
bench press
Military press
BB curls

3o mins bike and 10 mins rowing..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 04, 2014, 10:59:33 AM
Back and Triceps

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Life fitness underhand rows 4 sets
Hammer pull downs iso lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets
Hammer rows iso lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets
Palms facing wide grip pull downs 3 sets

Tri-combo pushdowns/extensions 100reps 5X20  3 sets
Hammer close grip incine 3 sets
Life fitness dip machine 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 04, 2014, 11:29:31 AM
Back and Triceps

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Life fitness underhand rows 4 sets
Hammer pull downs iso lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets
Hammer rows iso lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets
Palms facing wide grip pull downs 3 sets

Tri-combo pushdowns/extensions 100reps 5X20  3 sets
Hammer close grip incine 3 sets
Life fitness dip machine 3 sets
BACK AND TRIS I LIKE THIS I NEED TO SWITCH UP ,CHEST /TRI LONG TIME..I GET GOOD TRI WORKOUT EITHER WAY,I USED TO DO SHOULDER /TRI.CHEST/BI'WORKS WEZ IS ONTO TO SOMETHING ME THINKS  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 04, 2014, 01:06:06 PM
BACK AND TRIS I LIKE THIS I NEED TO SWITCH UP ,CHEST /TRI LONG TIME..I GET GOOD TRI WORKOUT EITHER WAY,I USED TO DO SHOULDER /TRI.CHEST/BI'WORKS WEZ IS ONTO TO SOMETHING ME THINKS  ;D

I change it up every couple months....I was having trouble doing Tris after chest...they were fried. Same with Back and Bis. I like this Steve.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 04, 2014, 05:41:19 PM
Back:

db rows 3 sets

machine close grip pulldowns  3 sets

chest supported t bar rows  3 sets

partial deadlifts  3 sets

treadmill 20 minutes
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 05, 2014, 02:30:36 AM
Back:

db rows 3 sets

machine close grip pulldowns  3 sets

chest supported t bar rows  3 sets

partial deadlifts  3 sets

treadmill 20 minutes
Great to see you are getting some cardio in there. I Train at least 30 mins cardio every time iīm in the Gym. interval, "zufall" a Programme which changes keeps you guessing. i will do cross Trainer today and i think i will do a hill workout. so thatīs 4 days in a row and i will take a rest day tomorrow, maybe 2. iīm off Saturday and a good ex Army friend is coming by for a few wee Beers. Going to talk about old times and get shit faced as you do... ;D s Got to be done, you know the rules men... ;) My wife gets upset when we are drunk, she never Drinks at all. after 26 years she knows me only too well....hihi Itīs my celtic Blood... my excuse.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 05, 2014, 04:28:14 PM
Tonight will be arms and 20 minutes on the treadmill.


close grip smith  4 sets

lying db extensions 3 sets

one arm cable extensions 2 sets

hammer curls  6 sets

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 05, 2014, 06:49:58 PM
Delts/Traps

200mg Primo E
25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Lateral Raises iso lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets
Combo raises side/front/rear/swings 10/10/10/10 3 sets
Side laterals with chains 3 sets
Behind the back cable side laterals 3 sets
Rear delt cable crossovers 3 sets
pulls to the face 3 sets
reverse pec dek 3 sets
Shrugs on the shoulder press 5 sets
Smith seated presses 4 sets up to 185
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 05, 2014, 07:23:14 PM
Delts/Traps

200mg Primo E
25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Lateral Raises iso lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets
Combo raises side/front/rear/swings 10/10/10/10 3 sets
Side laterals with chains 3 sets
Behind the back cable side laterals 3 sets
Rear delt cable crossovers 3 sets
pulls to the face 3 sets
reverse pec dek 3 sets
Shrugs on the shoulder press 5 sets
Smith seated presses 4 sets up to 185
maniac!!!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 05, 2014, 07:32:54 PM
back..
reverse hammer pulldowns...plate/2plates/2plates +10 /2+15..
low cablerows 180/190/200..10/10/10
tbar row bar in corner  load plates front 4/3.5/3.5+10,,,12/10/10
chins side grips x3x10
stretch and pull into torso standing pulldowns x3 narrow bar nice mid/upper back pump..

weighted hypers x3

bi's
curls 85/95/105
inc db curls 30/35/40 10/10/10
seat curlmachine x2
bicep cable curls' front doublebicep pose' arms stretched and flex in x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 06, 2014, 12:35:16 AM
back..
reverse hammer pulldowns...plate/2plates/2plates +10 /2+15..
low cablerows 180/190/200..10/10/10
tbar row bar in corner  load plates front 4/3.5/3.5+10,,,12/10/10
chins side grips x3x10
stretch and pull into torso standing pulldowns x3 narrow bar nice mid/upper back pump..

weighted hypers x3

bi's
curls 85/95/105
inc db curls 30/35/40 10/10/10
seat curlmachine x2
bicep cable curls' front doublebicep pose' arms stretched and flex in x2

abs
you can talk.. you are also a Hardcore maniac... ;D  by the way... where is Jay?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 06, 2014, 07:16:37 AM
you can talk.. you are also a Hardcore maniac... ;D  by the way... where is Jay?
YEAH MISS THE GUY TRUTHFULLY GOOD SPIRIT HERE...HE'LL BE BACK..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 06, 2014, 07:24:06 AM
maniac!!!!!

There was a cute chick watching me.....might have gone the extra mile.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 06, 2014, 07:41:29 AM
There was a cute chick watching me.....might have gone the extra mile.
;D,,,ya gotta do what ya gotta due..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 06, 2014, 08:25:38 AM
delts followed by 20 minutes on the treadmill.


seated side laterals  4 sets

lying db laterals (Nubret style)  3 sets

smith machine presses  3 sets

db shrugs  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 06, 2014, 01:00:33 PM
Arm Day

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

DB curls ss pushdowns 4 sets
Cybex one arm preacher curls ss incline smith machine close grips 4 sets
High pulley cable curls ss overhead rope extensions 3 sets
Hammer curls ss rope extensions 3 sets
high pulley one arm forearm curls 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 06, 2014, 06:26:55 PM
delts
bent over rear cable raise x3
rear peck deck laterals x2
seated side raises 20x12,25x10,30x10...30/25/20/15drops 6-8 per drop pumped..
seated db presses 55/60/60-45
superset wide uprights with front raise..x3

shrugs 135-20,225-20,275 -18,295-14 gassed did some higher reps

forearms
weight rollups and reverse cable wrist curls behind back

calves standing calf raise x5

holding steady..want to be a bit more leaner come summer got time..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 06, 2014, 08:48:01 PM
leg workout:

leg extensions  5 sets

leg presses  3 sets

barbell squats  3 sets

seated leg curls 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 07, 2014, 01:09:04 AM
leg workout:

leg extensions  5 sets

leg presses  3 sets

barbell squats  3 sets

seated leg curls 4 sets
nice simple, straight to the point
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 07, 2014, 10:44:58 AM
GEORGE'WILLIE'GOOD DUDE,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 07, 2014, 11:41:20 AM
GEORGE'WILLIE'GOOD DUDE,,
yes a good guy. Always positive.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 07, 2014, 05:18:56 PM
here's question...or 2

who's build would you trade with to have.or builds..

who's you fav bodybuilder or parts bber make you phsyched to train.

other than 'i like to train everything'we all do it,,,but what is your fav bodyparts to train that give it all'pump,strenght,sore  ..

1..francis benfatto prime early 90's,zane 69-74'softer but still lean,,mad respect for 77-82 version sick ripped...rich gaspari worked hard had strong thick look'i'm a chest/leg guy like him,5'8 like him and jersey..

2..arnolds chest is really phsyche up on chest day,

3...love chest day get sick fullpump..legs  ;D of course,back love back many rows/pulldown versions all angles,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 07, 2014, 05:45:32 PM
Loved Bill Pearl and Sergio Oliva....big arms

Now days I love Frank Mcgrath and those roadmap arms

as you can guess Steve...Delts
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 07, 2014, 05:52:28 PM
Loved Bill Pearl and Sergio Oliva....big arms

Now days I love Frank Mcgrath and those roadmap arms

as you can guess Steve...Delts
mcgrath is build u would want as your own?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 07, 2014, 10:39:00 PM
here's question...or 2

who's build would you trade with to have.or builds..

who's you fav bodybuilder or parts bber make you phsyched to train.

other than 'i like to train everything'we all do it,,,but what is your fav bodyparts to train that give it all'pump,strenght,sore  ..

1..francis benfatto prime early 90's,zane 69-74'softer but still lean,,mad respect for 77-82 version sick ripped...rich gaspari worked hard had strong thick look'i'm a chest/leg guy like him,5'8 like him and jersey..

2..arnolds chest is really phsyche up on chest day,

3...love chest day get sick fullpump..legs  ;D of course,back love back many rows/pulldown versions all angles,,
back-Samir......triceps-Samir.......calves-Dickerson......Traps-Cormier......chest-Arnie......biceps- Robby......Quads-Platz......Delts-Wilcosz/Strydom.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 08, 2014, 01:55:48 AM
Steve Reeves, Gordon scott, Bob Paris. I like Brad harris too infact a German friend of mine who is a big film fan met him here in Germany and told me he speaks very good German. Bob Paris was said to be the modern Steve Reeves....
http://www.bobparis.com/
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 08, 2014, 07:48:07 AM
mcgrath is build u would want as your own?

No just the arms....total build Bob Paris.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 08, 2014, 08:11:45 AM
Steve Reeves, Gordon scott, Bob Paris. I like Brad harris too infact a German friend of mine who is a big film fan met him here in Germany and told me he speaks very good German. Bob Paris was said to be the modern Steve Reeves....
http://www.bobparis.com/
paris sis have it all in terms of asthetic appeal even tho some weirdos here on g/o thought his legs were too big and threw off illusion of perfect build.relaxed and his trademark artistic poses were second to none,when he posed doing the 8 required mandatories that's where his build showed flaws to a degree compared to his contemporaries.i forgot to add him on my LIST OF BUILDS I WOULD TAKE..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 08, 2014, 12:55:02 PM
here's question...or 2

who's build would you trade with to have.or builds..

who's you fav bodybuilder or parts bber make you phsyched to train.

other than 'i like to train everything'we all do it,,,but what is your fav bodyparts to train that give it all'pump,strenght,sore  ..

1..francis benfatto prime early 90's,zane 69-74'softer but still lean,,mad respect for 77-82 version sick ripped...rich gaspari worked hard had strong thick look'i'm a chest/leg guy like him,5'8 like him and jersey..

2..arnolds chest is really phsyche up on chest day,

3...love chest day get sick fullpump..legs  ;D of course,back love back many rows/pulldown versions all angles,,

Pretty much anyone who is a lot younger and more fit/built than me at this juncture would suit me just fine. Someone who is about 6'2", handsome, well muscled and a good head of hair would be excellent. On a positive note, despite my pathetic record lately hitting the gym. I am pretty fit and somewhat leaner than I was awhile back. Thanks mom and dad for giving me those good genetics. My knee continues to improve. Now all I need to do is get my butt in gear (not on gear) and start working out on a regular basis.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 08, 2014, 02:10:41 PM
Did you hear that Larry Scott. Passed away today ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 08, 2014, 02:58:48 PM
Did you hear that Larry Scott. Passed away today ?

Yes I just found out..Was at the movies with my Grandson....will do Scott curls tomorrow in memorial.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 08, 2014, 03:08:28 PM
Did you hear that Larry Scott. Passed away today ?
he was a true bodybuilding legend!

still think he had some of the most sensational arms in bodybuilding history.


RIP
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 10, 2014, 12:38:56 PM
leg day killer...

hack squat superset with lying sled ,,2/3/4/5 plates and 160-240 on sled 10 reps per set

lunges up flight steps holding 45 plate in hands with extensions up to 235 on extensions max set  x4

hams
sldl 135,185,235,255
lying leg curls 140-155

calves
leg press calf raise x3
seated calf raise x3

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 10, 2014, 01:01:20 PM
was it just my Internet Conection or was getbig down?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 10, 2014, 01:11:13 PM
Sunday Chest and Biceps
25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Hammer wide grip w/bands 5 sets 4 drop on last set
Incline DB Press 40 3x20
Life fitness chest press 3 sets ss cable crossovers 3 sets

One arm DB scott curls 35x10 40x10 45x10
Spider curls 3x15 50
Life fitness scott curl 3 sets
Cable curl 1 x100
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 10, 2014, 01:13:18 PM
Legs/Abs

250mg Galenika Test/200mg Primo E
25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Seated calf raise 1X100
Leg Extensions 1X100
Lying leg curls 1X100
Hack Squats 4X10
Kneeling rope crunches 4X20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 10, 2014, 02:07:19 PM
back workout...followed by 30 minutes on the treadmill.


lat pulldowns   3 sets

hammer strength reverse grip rows  3 sets

chest supported t bar rows  3 sets

deadlifts(from shin level) 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 10, 2014, 02:15:42 PM
back workout...followed by 30 minutes on the treadmill.


lat pulldowns   3 sets

hammer strength reverse grip rows  3 sets

chest supported t bar rows  3 sets

deadlifts(from shin level) 3 sets
I DO THOSE 1ST 3 LIFTS GOOD STUFF..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 10, 2014, 02:59:34 PM
back workout...followed by 30 minutes on the treadmill.


lat pulldowns   3 sets

hammer strength reverse grip rows  3 sets

chest supported t bar rows  3 sets

deadlifts(from shin level) 3 sets
guess itīs my Internet.... Keep up the cardio too. today i was tired but did my 30 mins hard.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 10, 2014, 03:49:35 PM
was it just my Internet Conection or was getbig down?

Seems it was down. -Had a lot of posters worried.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 10, 2014, 03:52:03 PM
Seems it was down. -Had a lot of posters worried.
thanks Jay just thought it was my Internet.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 10, 2014, 06:17:05 PM
was it just my Internet Conection or was getbig down?
getbig was down most of Sunday.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 10, 2014, 07:26:19 PM
chest

fdb press warm up 50-20,,,65/80/85/85
inc prss 135 185/185/185..no drops
seated chest press 'stack'version nice change
pec deck x3
2 sets lower cable flyes

tris
rope overhead x3
rope pushdownsx3
dip machine x3
2 sets cable kickbacks

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 11, 2014, 02:47:52 AM
getbig was down most of Sunday.
Ok ... thanks...  so today a full Body blaster...

Deadlifts 5x5
Bent over BB rows 5x5
BB bench press 5x5
BB shoulder press 5x5
BB curls 5x6-10

no cardio today, beasted myself yesterday hardcore cardio. tomorrow i will do some cross Trainer and rowing.. my lower arms scream with rowing and i mix my grips up when doing it. I have small Hands so grip strength wise it punishes me. I am getting better with Deadlifts and the Basic Barbell lifts are helping.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 11, 2014, 05:26:48 AM
Ok ... thanks...  so today a full Body blaster...

Deadlifts 5x5
Bent over BB rows 5x5
BB bench press 5x5
BB shoulder press 5x5
BB curls 5x6-10

no cardio today, beasted myself yesterday hardcore cardio. tomorrow i will do some cross Trainer and rowing.. my lower arms scream with rowing and i mix my grips up when doing it. I have small Hands so grip strength wise it punishes me. I am getting better with Deadlifts and the Basic Barbell lifts are helping.

NICE WORK...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 11, 2014, 09:41:59 AM
Back and triceps

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Straight arm pull downs 4 sets
Palms facing wide pull downs 4 sets
Barbell Rows 4 sets
V-grip seated pulley rows 4 sets

Lying extensions with 40lb chain each hand 3 sets
Pushdowns with 3 different distances 30 reps 2 sets
Cybex dip machine 3 sets
100rep set of pushdowns and extensions 5X20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 11, 2014, 09:43:54 AM
Back and triceps

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Straight arm pull downs 4 sets
Palms facing wide pull downs 4 sets
Barbell Rows 4 sets
V-grip seated pulley rows 4 sets

Lying extensions with 40lb chain each hand 3 sets
Pushdowns with 3 different distances 30 reps 2 sets
Cybex dip machine 3 sets
100rep set of pushdowns and extensions 5X20
nice ...cybex dip I like we have something similar its a stack version ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 11, 2014, 11:03:40 AM
nice ...cybex dip I like we have something similar its a stack version ..

Yea that's it. Not a fan of the handles though...too thin. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 11, 2014, 11:08:05 AM
Yea that's it. Not a fan of the handles though...too thin. 
YEAH KINDA UNCOMFORTABLE..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 11, 2014, 12:57:15 PM
chest and 30 minutes treadmill.......incline smith presses  6 sets.......6 sets of crossovers.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 12, 2014, 09:17:44 AM
chest and 30 minutes treadmill.......incline smith presses  6 sets.......6 sets of crossovers.
great... i like the simplicity of your workouts. I beasted myself on the cross Trainer after work a hard 30 mins Interval. love the pain...gets my pumper going  ;) Tomorrow some weights.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 12, 2014, 09:20:44 AM
great... i like the simplicity of your workouts. I beasted myself on the cross Trainer after work a hard 30 mins Interval. love the pain...gets my pumper going  ;) Tomorrow some weights.
NEW AVATAR..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 12, 2014, 09:26:10 AM
NEW AVATAR..
well i asked Ronald to be his Sgt at Arms seeing as he is the Colonel here. so i guess thatīs my Sgt at Arms Stars  ;D He must have posted the Avatar..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 12, 2014, 09:27:49 AM
just good fun with Ronald ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 12, 2014, 10:58:26 AM
Delts/Traps day

200mg Primo
25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Bent rear delt raises 4 sets
Cable rear delt crossovers 3 sets
Pulls to the face 3 sets
Side DB laterals up and down the rack 20/25/30/35/40/35/30/25/20/15/10
Seated DB presses 40X20 45X15 50X12 55X10
Shrugs standing on the seated press machine stackX10X4
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 13, 2014, 02:39:55 PM
Arm Day

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

DB Preacher Curls 30x20 35x20 40X12
Incline DB extensions 30X10 35X10 40X10 (twist wrist at lockout)
One arm Cybex preacher curls 3X50X20
Kneeling overhand V-bar extensions 3X60X20
Spider curls 3X50X10
Close grip Cybex machine press 3X100X10
Reverse grip preacher curls 3X10
V-grip pushdowns 3 x20
High pulley forearm curls 3X20
Reverse ez bar forearm curls 3X10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 13, 2014, 06:02:39 PM
back

pullups wide x3 15/12/12
tbar row chest to pad 2plates 10/2.5x10,3 plates 9
low row machine chest topad stack version 175/185/190
underhanded bent over row..135/185/205  10 /10/10
widebar standing pulldowns to waist x3

weighted hypers

bi's
curlbar premade 60/70/90/90
seated curlmachine x3
overhead curls cable singlehandle done together stretch and flex into head x4

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 13, 2014, 06:08:07 PM
delts
side lateral machine   60/80/85/90
db press 50/55/60/45   10/10/7/15
underhanded curl bar front raise 50/60/60
side raises db tops face each other then straight up slight bend at elbow 20/25/30-25-20 drop10 reps per
rear delt peck deck x4

shrugs
on chest press front 3-5 plates perside 20-12 reps
2 set reverse shrug same machine 12-15 3 plates 3.5

forearms rollups weighted x4

calves standing calf raise 3 toe positions
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 13, 2014, 07:59:27 PM
Man Steve are workouts are similar!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 13, 2014, 08:33:21 PM
Man Steve are workouts are similar!
:D..good thing..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 14, 2014, 01:28:16 AM
so today...

squats
BB rows
BB bench
shoulder press
Close grip chins

cardio on the Bike and rowing machine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 14, 2014, 12:54:03 PM
so today...

squats
BB rows
BB bench
shoulder press
Close grip chins

cardio on the Bike and rowing machine.
good power...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 14, 2014, 01:18:21 PM
good power...
hi hi ;D wish i had Steve, just Training for strength but not eating like a pig and doing my Cardio. i like doing say just squats for my lower Body or Deads, Barbell rows i have always loved. Just really simple. i can use all the stuff in the Gym but i just like concentrating my energy on a few Basic moves. Depends on your Goal really.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 14, 2014, 01:22:16 PM
hi hi ;D wish i had Steve, just Training for strength but not eating like a pig and doing my Cardio. i like doing say just squats for my lower Body or Deads, Barbell rows i have always loved. Just really simple. i can use all the stuff in the Gym but i just like concentrating my energy on a few Basic moves. Depends on your Goal really.
i did underhanded bent overs on back nite i like those..when i post back i get confused chins from pullups ,i do wide and grip is normal not underhanded is that pullups?lol,,,under handed are easier.guy i work with is training hard he does mountain biking hardcore he is using trainer and training hard ,he shocked that i do 15 or so reps or weighted pullups.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 14, 2014, 01:36:01 PM
i did underhanded bent overs on back nite i like those..when i post back i get confused chins from pullups ,i do wide and grip is normal not underhanded is that pullups?lol,,,under handed are easier.guy i work with is training hard he does mountain biking hardcore he is using trainer and training hard ,he shocked that i do 15 or so reps or weighted pullups.
yeah Steve Thing is These guys Train mostly in the saddle.. maybe some hyperextensions( would be wise ) and some ab work.  tell them to chin (Palms facing) they mostly canīt. I have a good Friend like this who is a runner,endurance man...i do a fair bit too but i Train my muscles too and believe as in Army Fitness Tests you should at least Chin,Dip(Bodyweight)  And squat(with your Bodyweight loaded on the Bar)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 15, 2014, 09:53:53 AM
Chest

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Smith Incline Press to neck 95X20 115X15 135X10 165X10 185X10 205X8 drop set 225X6/135X20
Hammer Incline iso lateral 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets 1 plate 1 set 2 plates X10
Cable crossovers 3 sets
Pec Dek 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 15, 2014, 11:05:43 AM
last eve.....


squats   4 sets

leg presses 3 sets

leg extensions 4 sets

seated calf raises 5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 15, 2014, 07:36:32 PM
legs

still supersetting 3 leg workouts row on quads..

hacks with lying sled x4 2/3/4/5/on plates hack /160/180/200/200 on sled weight stacked machine'

walking lunges x4 80lbs on back with extensions

hams
stiff legged dbells
60/75/85
seated leg curls 180/195/210

calves
seated calf raise x3
standing calf x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 16, 2014, 10:45:51 AM
back


db rows  3 sets

machine close grip pulldowns  3 sets

chest supported t bar rows  3 sets

deadlifts (from shins) 3 sets


30 minutes on the treadmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 16, 2014, 11:36:56 AM
Biceps/forearms

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Cybex One arm preacher curls 5 sets
Standing DB curls 3 sets
Seated concentration curls 3 sets
Reverse forearm curls 3 sets
High pulley one arm forearm curls 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 16, 2014, 12:30:39 PM
 Did Cardio tonight after work and Abs. Hanging knee raises superset with crunches(calves on a bench).
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 16, 2014, 01:46:39 PM
Did Cardio tonight after work and Abs. Hanging knee raises superset with crunches(calves on a bench).
NICE ABDOMINAL ROUTINE!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 16, 2014, 01:51:48 PM
NICE ABDOMINAL ROUTINE!
thanks just Basics... i threw in some calfes too because to be honest i have neglected them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 16, 2014, 05:02:36 PM
nice delt Training ala Vince which i found on iron Age

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Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 16, 2014, 05:17:14 PM
nice delt Training ala Vince which i found on iron Age

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Thanks Donny!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 16, 2014, 05:27:50 PM
Thanks Donny!
thank Raw Iron Forum ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 16, 2014, 07:11:15 PM
day off,just did some pump stuff at home...back/delt/bi hi rep stuff few movements each...

took a classic pose and a relaxed semi..my old show trainer is amazed at my 'current shape'he was very early and trusted influence he dialed me in 3 times perfect,,,he wants me to give it a go,,he was aau guy turned pro as master in npc and competes in ifbb master.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 17, 2014, 10:59:38 AM
chest and 30 minutes treadmill.


incline smith machine   4 sets

incline flyes  3 sets

cable crossovers  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 18, 2014, 09:20:29 AM
Triceps

25mg d-bol/50mg Var pre-workout
yesterday 250mg Galenika Test/200mg Primo

Tri set
Rope pushdowns/ incline DB extensions/kneeling overhead extensions 3 cycles

5X20=100reps
Rope pushdowns hands out/Rope pushdowns hands hammer/reverse ez bar pushdowns/ez bar pushdowns/extensions

Cybex dip machine 3 sets

V-bar pushdowns 2 drop sets

Seated calf raises 5 sets super slow
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 18, 2014, 09:33:39 AM
chest
fdb press 55/65/80/85 ...20/12/10/8
inc press 135/185/185/165  ..12/10/8/10
chest press stack version ...130/145/160
lower cable crossover flyes x2
upper cable crossovers x2 superset decline pushups x20 reps nice finish,,,

tris
rope over head extensions superset with pushdowns x3
dip machine x3
cable tricep kick backs across body done upright x2

abs

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 18, 2014, 01:56:24 PM
delts and bis and treadmill:

seated laterals  4 sets

bent over laterals 4 sets

db shrugs  3 sets

hammer curls  6 sets

30 minutes on the treadmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 18, 2014, 03:23:11 PM
Deadlifts
Bench press
BB rows
BB press
BB curls
30 mins cardio and crunches 3xmax
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 19, 2014, 06:15:56 PM
back
pullups 2x wide 12-15/2x narrow side grips 12 reps
tbar rows 2.5/3/3.5 plates 12/10/10
single arm reverse hammer pulldowns x3
underhand small bar lower cable pully rows x3 160/180/185
standing rope stretch pulls to waist x3

weighted hypers

bis
premade bar curls straight bar 70/80/100/100 12-10 hi/lo end reps
curls inc dbells 30/35/40 10 reps all 3
seated curlmachine x2
top cable curls x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 20, 2014, 01:34:01 PM
Back Wednesday
200mg Primo

25mg D-bol/50mg Var pre-workout

Wide grip palms facing pull downs 4 sets
Hammer Rows 3 sets iso tension 5/4/3/2/1 2 sets heavy
Superman Rows 3 sets
Life Fitness row machine 3 sets
Straight arm sweeps 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 20, 2014, 01:36:49 PM
Delts/Traps

25mg D-bol/50mg Var

Life Fitness laterals iso tension 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets
One arm DB side laterals 3 sets
Reverse pec dek rear delts 3 sets
Rear cable crossovers 3 sets
Hammer shoulder press iso tension 5/4/3/2/1 3 sets 3 sets heavy
Hammer shrug machine 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 20, 2014, 08:45:38 PM
arms tonight:


smith machine close grip  3 sets

kneeling cable extensions   3 sets

reverse grip cable extensions  3 sets


standing db curls   3 sets

hammer strength preacher curls  3 sets

precor machine curls  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: phreak on March 21, 2014, 07:23:04 AM
First post in this topic:

This morning:
Dumbbell lateral raises: 8x40, 8x58, 8x58, 8x58, 14x40
Cable tricep extension: 12x90, 8x110, 10x110 (sloppy technique on last set)
Dumbbell rear delts: 10x45, 10x45

Yes, I always train very briefly. It's like sex: get in, blast, get to the shower. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 21, 2014, 08:56:00 AM
DELT DAY

SOME GOOD SUPERSETS

FRONT PRESS 135/155/165/SETS 10 WITH SIDE LATERALS SINGLE ARM'THANKS WEZ'SAW U DID THEN TOO THIS WK I DO THEM TIME TO TIME..30LBS X3

UPRIGHT CABLE ROW WITH FRONT STRAIGHT BAR RAISE X3 SICK PUMP...

DBELL PRESS WITH REAR PEC DECK LATERALS ,X2 55/60 DBELLS

FINISHED 3 SETS INC BENCH REAR DELT RAISE 25'S X3 SETS 12

SHRUGS REPPED HARD
135X30
225X20
275X15
315X15

FORARMS REVERSE WRIST CURL BEHIND BACK AND ROLLUPS WEIGHTED ROPE

CALVES 5 SETS STANDING CALF RAISE

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 21, 2014, 09:41:29 AM
squats   4 sets

leg press  3 sets

leg extensions  4 sets

seated leg curls  4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 21, 2014, 09:51:39 AM
squats   4 sets

leg press  3 sets

leg extensions  4 sets

seated leg curls  4 sets
L
E
G
S.....NICE
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 21, 2014, 10:30:57 AM
squats   4 sets

leg press  3 sets

leg extensions  4 sets

seated leg curls  4 sets
nice straight to the Point workout...

i did today,,,

Squats
BB rows
BB bench press
Close grip chins
BB shoulder press
cardio 45 mins on the Bike
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 21, 2014, 11:53:00 AM
nice work Donny!


Have a pleasant weekend!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 21, 2014, 04:06:16 PM
Didn't get to the gym this week.

Our son came for a visit. I took him to the airport this morning at 5:30 a.m. so he could fly home to Germany. It was great to see him and for him to visit with his mom. He went running every morning, rain or shine. Back at home he hit's the gym at 7:00 a.m. on weekdays for a workout before going to work. For a guy nearly 50 years old, he looks darn fit.

After I got home from the airport, I took my wife to the hospital for lab work. Fortunately, she did not have to do dialysis today. In fact she may be getting the shunt taken out next week, if all goes well.

Since I couldn't find time for the gym, I decided to do bodyweight squats this week. On Tuesday, I did 3 sets of 15 reps, going really deep. Yesterday I did 3 sets of 25 reps also going deep. Surprisingly, my knee and sciatica seems less painful after squatting. Also I did leg extensions and kickbacks. If I can get to the gym next week, I'll be more ready to really hit it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 21, 2014, 05:32:11 PM
Didn't get to the gym this week.

Our son came for a visit. I took him to the airport this morning at 5:30 a.m. so he could fly home to Germany. It was great to see him and for him to visit with his mom. He went running every morning, rain or shine. Back at home he hit's the gym at 7:00 a.m. on weekdays for a workout before going to work. For a guy nearly 50 years old, he looks darn fit.

After I got home from the airport, I took my wife to the hospital for lab work. Fortunately, she did not have to do dialysis today. In fact she may be getting the shunt taken out next week, if all goes well.

Since I couldn't find time for the gym, I decided to do bodyweight squats this week. On Tuesday, I did 3 sets of 15 reps, going really deep. Yesterday I did 3 sets of 25 reps also going deep. Surprisingly, my knee and sciatica seems less painful after squatting. Also I did leg extensions and kickbacks. If I can get to the gym next week, I'll be more ready to really hit it.
8)good to hear from u jay..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 21, 2014, 11:09:15 PM
wellcome back Jay....  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 23, 2014, 11:19:21 AM
Today was cardio and Abs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 23, 2014, 02:26:59 PM
Chest and Biceps

25mg D-bol/ 50mg Var

Hammer Incline w/mini bands 4 sets  quadruple drop on last set
Hammer Wide iso laterals 5/4/3/2/1 4 sets
Life Fitness Chest Press iso-laterals 5/4/3/2/1 ss with cable crossovers 3 sets

Barbell Curls 5 sets 20 reps each
Incline cable curls to top of head 5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 23, 2014, 02:32:47 PM
Chest and Biceps

25mg D-bol/ 50mg Var

Hammer Incline w/mini bands 4 sets  quadruple drop on last set
Hammer Wide iso laterals 5/4/3/2/1 4 sets
Life Fitness Chest Press iso-laterals 5/4/3/2/1 ss with cable crossovers 3 sets

Barbell Curls 5 sets 20 reps each
Incline cable curls to top of head 5 sets
so the cable curls are to failure?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 23, 2014, 05:06:51 PM
good workouts mates....

legs again same superset rotation brutal 3 wks in row,but legs getting some deeper seperation...

hack squat with lying sled  2/3/4/5 plates x10 then sled 180/200/220/220

lunges w extensions 80 lbs walking  with extensions 190
205/220/235 all 10/12

hams
sldl
135/185/235/245
leg curl lying 140/155/160

calves leg press x4
2 sets standing 12/15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 23, 2014, 05:23:59 PM
good workouts mates....

legs again same superset rotation brutal 3 wks in row,but legs getting some deeper seperation...

hack squat with lying sled  2/3/4/5 plates x10 then sled 180/200/220/220

lunges w extensions 80 lbs walking  with extensions 190
205/220/235 all 10/12

hams
sldl
135/185/235/245
leg curl lying 140/155/160

calves leg press x4
2 sets standing 12/15

lunges with extensions? jeez  ;D respect
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 23, 2014, 07:37:18 PM
tris

smith machine close grips 3 sets

kneeling cable extensions(larry scott style)   3 sets

reverse cable extensions 3 sets

bis

2 sets of standing db curls

2 sets of hammer strength preacher curls

2 sets of concentration curls

2 sets of precor  machine curls

15 minutes treadmill......15 minutes stepmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 24, 2014, 04:55:16 AM
lunges with extensions? jeez  ;D respect
painful...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 24, 2014, 05:12:42 AM
painful...
you love it... ;D itīs like the day after my 5x5 workout i feel the fatigue in my legs when doing hard cardio  but i just gut it out....love the pain  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 24, 2014, 06:37:18 PM
chest /tri/abs home workout

supersets lots

seated chest press supersetted with db flyes 'stack type press 'weight irrelevant flyes 30/30/45/45 10x10 reps 4 x's around

side handles press for outer chest /lower superset inc dbells turn palms in at top x4

decline dbells with pushups x3  50/50/60 and 15/20 pushups

tris 'tri sets
pushowns/lying dbell extensions/dips off bench x4 and threw in the mix dbell press from sides dbells turned palms facing go straight up 'like a close grip bench'with dbells

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 24, 2014, 08:38:31 PM
delts.......no pressing movement.


side laterals seated   4 sets

reverse pec deck  4 sets

db shrugs   3 sets


30 minutes treadmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 25, 2014, 12:22:19 PM
so the cable curls are to failure?

Yes Donny
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 25, 2014, 12:25:18 PM
Back and Triceps

25mg D-bol/50mg Var

Barbell Rows 4 sets
Seated Pulley Rows 4 sets
Reverse Grip pull downs 4 sets
Incline bench V-grip pull downs 4 sets

DB incline extensions with a twist 5 sets
kneeling cable overhead extensions 5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 26, 2014, 09:17:45 AM
 today i was short on time so i did...

Squats 5x5
parallel bar Dips 5x5 (weighted)
Close grip chins 5x5 (weighted)

just raw basics ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 26, 2014, 12:05:22 PM
back:

lat pulldowns   3 sets

reverse grip machine rows 3 sets

one arm cable rows  3 sets

chest supported t bar rows 3 sets

partial deadlifts (from shin level) 2 sets


15 minutes stepmill      15 minutes treadmill

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 26, 2014, 12:10:58 PM
back:

lat pulldowns   3 sets

reverse grip machine rows 3 sets

one arm cable rows  3 sets

chest supported t bar rows 3 sets

partial deadlifts (from shin level) 2 sets


15 minutes stepmill      15 minutes treadmill


NJFLEX APPROVED ;). :D..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 26, 2014, 12:53:58 PM
NJFLEX APPROVED ;). :D..
thanks steverino!!!! sending my best to you out in jersey!!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 26, 2014, 08:30:54 PM
thanks steverino!!!! sending my best to you out in jersey!!!!
8).....

back day
pullups x3x15
bent over rows 135/185/205/225 15/12/12/10
low cable rows 180/195/210  10 plus on reps
rverse grip hammer pulldowns 2 plates/2plates and 10/2 plates 2 tens ..10/10/10
single handle pulls  from bottom cable pull to side /squeeze at upper back'like doing dbell rows off the rack .but cable x3

bis
cable curls x4
db curls 35/40/40
cable rope curls x2
close grip bar curl seated x2 on back lower cable pully part.

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 27, 2014, 12:53:02 PM
back:

one arm rows   3 sets

lat pulldowns  3 sets

chest supported t bar rows  3 sets

deadlifts (from shin level) 3 sets

15 minutes stepmill    15 minutes treadmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 27, 2014, 02:24:18 PM
Legs - what else?

Squats, 3 sets of 25 reps @ bodyweight
Toe touches, 3 sets of 25 reps
Extensions, 3 sets of 25 reps
Kickbacks, 3 sets of 25 reps

I felt like I needed and wanted to do something to keep the blood flowing to my legs, especially the knees. The last couple of days my bum knee has been sore. I am not about to cave in to it. It actually feels a bit better today, so the exercises worked.

Hopefully, the hitting the gym is on the near horizon. Today my wife got the stint removed because she no longer needs dialysis since her kidneys have recovered to where they were before the acute kidney failure. It looks like this chapter in our lives is done, thank goodness! I won't miss the trice weekly trips to the hospital nor will Margie. This really frees up a lot of time for both of us. She still needs to do labs pretty often and see her doctors on a regular basis, but that's small potatoes compared to were we've been these past few months. Now I have no excuse besides sheer laziness for not making it to the gym.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 27, 2014, 05:21:22 PM
Legs - what else?

Squats, 3 sets of 25 reps @ bodyweight
Toe touches, 3 sets of 25 reps
Extensions, 3 sets of 25 reps
Kickbacks, 3 sets of 25 reps

I felt like I needed and wanted to do something to keep the blood flowing to my legs, especially the knees. The last couple of days my bum knee has been sore. I am not about to cave in to it. It actually feels a bit better today, so the exercises worked.

Hopefully, the hitting the gym is on the near horizon. Today my wife got the stint removed because she no longer needs dialysis since her kidneys have recovered to where they were before the acute kidney failure. It looks like this chapter in our lives is done, thank goodness! I won't miss the trice weekly trips to the hospital nor will Margie. This really frees up a lot of time for both of us. She still needs to do labs pretty often and see her doctors on a regular basis, but that's small potatoes compared to were we've been these past few months. Now I have no excuse besides sheer laziness for not making it to the gym.


good jay...we need u back here more 8)..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 27, 2014, 05:25:13 PM
delt day

fr press135/155/164/175
side laterals drops 30/25/15 sets 8-10 x3 sickpump.......
rear laterals seated x3 20/25/30
front raise curl bar overhand grip 50/60/70 premade bar

shrugs chest machine
2 plates x25/3plates x20/4 plates x15/5 plates x12

calves
standing calf raise x5

forarms wrist curls reverse cable  superset with weight rope rolls
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 28, 2014, 07:27:45 AM
Thursday Delts/Traps

25mg D-bol/50mg Var

Reverse Pec Deck 5X20
DB side Laterals 5X20
DB presses 4x15
DB Shrugs 4X10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 28, 2014, 07:33:55 AM
Thursday Delts/Traps

25mg D-bol/50mg Var

Reverse Pec Deck 5X20
DB side Laterals 5X20
DB presses 4x15
DB Shrugs 4X10
nothing crazy on this one...i did something like this last workout or so,no drops oe supersets...i did a good superset last shoulder day last wk..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 28, 2014, 08:17:52 AM
nothing crazy on this one...i did something like this last workout or so,no drops oe supersets...i did a good superset last shoulder day last wk..

In the middle of both in laws dying 5 days apart. Very tough time for my Wife and I. Doing what I can.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 28, 2014, 08:51:54 AM
In the middle of both in laws dying 5 days apart. Very tough time for my Wife and I. Doing what I can.
:-\,,sorry to hear man...all i could say.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 28, 2014, 10:08:36 AM
my condolences wez.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on March 28, 2014, 10:35:55 AM
Thanks guys....appreciate it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 28, 2014, 01:21:18 PM
my condolences wez.
X2.... sorry to read it Wez.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 28, 2014, 02:01:40 PM
In the middle of both in laws dying 5 days apart. Very tough time for my Wife and I. Doing what I can.

Sad news. Seems at times like life keeps throwing curve balls at us when we least expect it. Take care of your wife, first and foremost.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 29, 2014, 11:28:41 PM
Gearing up for Monday when I plan to hit the gym and resume/resurrect my old weight bearing workout of times past. So tonight I repeated Thursday's routine.

Legs:

Squats, 3 X 25 @ bodyweight
Leg extensions, 3 X 25
Toe touches, 3 X 25
Kickbacks, 3 X 25

My wife commented that my legs looked skinny. Guess she's feeling better!

Currently weigh 195 lbs. standing 5' 10 3/4" with not much fat around my middle thanks to the testosterone and HCG injections. Never-the-less, I am soft, soft, soft and this has to end.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 30, 2014, 02:11:13 AM
Gearing up for Monday when I plan to hit the gym and resume/resurrect my old weight bearing workout of times past. So tonight I repeated Thursday's routine.

Legs:

Squats, 3 X 25 @ bodyweight
Leg extensions, 3 X 25
Toe touches, 3 X 25
Kickbacks, 3 X 25

My wife commented that my legs looked skinny. Guess she's feeling better!

Currently weigh 195 lbs. standing 5' 10 3/4" with not much fat around my middle thanks to the testosterone and HCG injections. Never-the-less, I am soft, soft, soft and this has to end.

nice to see squats in there even if bodyweight. i used to do leg extensions first pre-exhaust style. worked good.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2014, 06:45:06 AM
leg day''

continuing punishing supersets 4th leg workout in row nice change and my knee flareup has healed nicely,the leg press at the gym is angled and not much room for foot placement so in think my knees took a load of it,,but i used it yesterday :P....glutton i guess lol

leg press superset with hack squats 'plates'3/4/5/6 and hacks 2/3/4/5 reps 10 x10

walking lunges 50 lb dbells and extensions 195/195/205/205 x3

hams
sldl and superset leg curls 135/185/235/245 and curls 140 lying 'girl jumped on between so i let her keep it lol'so i did seated then 180/195/195

calves
leg press and standing toe position out heels touching

sore today ;D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on March 30, 2014, 11:34:35 AM
leg work:



squats  3 sets

leg press 3 sets

leg extensions 3 sets

hyperextensions 4 sets

seated calf raises 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 30, 2014, 01:19:34 PM
nice to see squats in there even if bodyweight. i used to do leg extensions first pre-exhaust style. worked good.

I do leg extensions first as both pre-exhaust and warm-up when I am using added weight. It doesn't seem necessary with just bodyweight, at least not for me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2014, 04:57:29 PM
I do leg extensions first as both pre-exhaust and warm-up when I am using added weight. It doesn't seem necessary with just bodyweight, at least not for me.
i've done extensions heavy at 1st did other movements and came back with light single leg squeeze holds for higher reps to finish..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 30, 2014, 08:26:26 PM
i've done extensions heavy at 1st did other movements and came back with light single leg squeeze holds for higher reps to finish..

Since the knee surgery, I've been doing extensions single leg. Otherwise, my good knee will compensate for the bum one and the development will be uneven.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 31, 2014, 06:00:21 AM
went to the Gym did 45 mins bike, last night hard interval. I love it when it gets hard. so afterwards came the creme de la creme  ;D....

Dips 4Max superset with Close grip pull ups 4x max
Barbell rowing 4x8-10 with push ups using push up bars 4Max
Upright BB rows 3x10
Flat bench flys 3x8

just felt like doing chest+back today. Working tonight and it will be full Monday nights always are and Holiday time starts soon here. still on a positive note...will be lots of Girlies needing my Attention...Dirty Job but someone gotta do it... :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 31, 2014, 06:11:55 AM
one woman in the Gym is a School teacher about 31/32. Nice Body a bit plain but i like intelligent women. She writes to me on whats app... i have kept it very civil in my Messages. she always asks when iīm there and last night i wrote i would be in the gym doing Training about 12 noon here. she came a bit later as i finished but wrote last night she wanted to Train together. I want to do it Guys but i donīt know... :-\ She is straight but is ok if you know what i mean... funny i seem to attract women with intelligence. Last one was also intelligent... like how she spoke, you know pillow talk.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 31, 2014, 05:47:02 PM
one woman in the Gym is a School teacher about 31/32. Nice Body a bit plain but i like intelligent women. She writes to me on whats app... i have kept it very civil in my Messages. she always asks when iīm there and last night i wrote i would be in the gym doing Training about 12 noon here. she came a bit later as i finished but wrote last night she wanted to Train together. I want to do it Guys but i donīt know... :-\ She is straight but is ok if you know what i mean... funny i seem to attract women with intelligence. Last one was also intelligent... like how she spoke, you know pillow talk.

If you are asking us, are you suggesting that you aren't sure you can trust yourself with her? If you believe you can't, then I would say you shouldn't put either of you in that position. If you can just be workout partners and friends (without benefits), then go for it.

Attraction is a mystery. Do you not consider yourself worthy of intelligent women's friendship? Having worked in education for 30 years, I met my share of teachers who I did not consider particularly intelligent. It is a myth that all teachers are intelligent people. Additionally, many lack common sense.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 31, 2014, 06:00:12 PM
Followed through on my intent to hit the gym today. Not only that, I worked out with free weights, doing my old routine that I have not done since last August. Today I worked arms.

Alternate dumbbell curls, 4 X 12 to 8
Standing triceps pressdowns, 5 X 15 to 8
cable EZ curls, 4 X 12 to 8
Overhead triceps extensions, 4 X 15 to 8
Concentration curls, 3 X 12 to 8
Dips, 3 X 12 to 8
Nautilus forearm machine with 4 stations, 4 X 15 to 12
Reverse EZ curls, 3 X 10 to 6
Nautilus Ab crunches, 3 X 25

Finished in about 45 minutes. Only rested max 1 minute between sets. No cardio today.

Tomorrow I'll work hams and calves.

Earlier today my wife and I took a couple of boxes of Edible Arrangements to the people at the dialysis center. Edible arrangements are basically fresh fruit dipped in chocolate and decorated. The staff there seemed both surprised and appreciative. Afterwards, I took my wife out to a nice restaurant for a long lunch. When we got home, I took advantage of the good weather and mowed the lawn. I will probably crash early tonight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 31, 2014, 07:53:18 PM
chest
inc press 135x15/185x10/185x10/195x6,175x6,155x8 3 set drop
fdb press 75x10/75x8.75x7
hammer lower press 2 plates/2.5x10/2.5and 10x10,3plates x6
cable crossovers x3
dips x2 x15 and pushupsx15 superset x2..

tris
overhead rope extensions x4
pushdowns x5
reverse dip/pushdown i use weighted dip machine pad  back to pad and pushdown x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 01, 2014, 06:00:53 PM
-Day two. -Arms are crazy sore and I don't care cause it means I worked them real good. I worked hams and calves today. Pretty much halved the resistance from last August when I last did this workout. I stuck to the routine though.

Lying leg curls, 4 X 15 - 8
Standing calf raises, 4 X 15 - 12
Seated leg curls, 4 X 15 - 8
Leg press calf raises, 3 X 15 - 12
Reverse hack squats, 4 X 15 - 8
Seated calf raises, 3 X 15 - 12
Nautilus abductions, 3 X 15 - 10
Nautilus adductions, 3 X 15 - 10
Nautilus ab crunches, 2 X 25

Kept the resistance light, so I should be able to walk tomorrow. I might not be able to raise my arm high enough to brush my teeth in the morning though.  ::)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 01, 2014, 07:12:25 PM
-Day two. -Arms are crazy sore and I don't care cause it means I worked them real good. I worked hams and calves today. Pretty much halved the resistance from last August when I last did this workout. I stuck to the routine though.

Lying leg curls, 4 X 15 - 8
Standing calf raises, 4 X 15 - 12
Seated leg curls, 4 X 15 - 8
Leg press calf raises, 3 X 15 - 12
Reverse hack squats, 4 X 15 - 8
Seated calf raises, 3 X 15 - 12
Nautilus abductions, 3 X 15 - 10
Nautilus adductions, 3 X 15 - 10
Nautilus ab crunches, 2 X 25

Kept the resistance light, so I should be able to walk tomorrow. I might not be able to raise my arm high enough to brush my teeth in the morning though.  ::)
good jay,,,good to see u back..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 01, 2014, 08:48:22 PM
my gym is closed for renovation.......so I worked out at a different gym tonight.


this facility had very good hammer strength equipment that my gym doesn't have.....so I used some back equipment that has not been available to me......same with the chest equipment......so I did some back work and chest work and a little traps and a few sets of tris.


hammer high rows   3 sets

cybex pullover machine  3 sets

hammer incline  3 sets

hammer wide grip presses  3 sets

cybex overhead extensions 3 sets

hammer shrugs  5 sets


30 minutes on the treadmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 01, 2014, 10:08:43 PM
my gym is closed for renovation.......so I worked out at a different gym tonight.


this facility had very good hammer strength equipment that my gym doesn't have.....so I used some back equipment that has not been available to me......same with the chest equipment......so I did some back work and chest work and a little traps and a few sets of tris.


hammer high rows   3 sets

cybex pullover machine  3 sets

hammer incline  3 sets

hammer wide grip presses  3 sets

cybex overhead extensions 3 sets

hammer shrugs  5 sets


30 minutes on the treadmill

The gym where I've been a member since I was 38 years old has a lot of Hammer Strength machines. I really like using these for chest and back workouts as well as some shoulder and leg routines. This is probably because I can't be bothered with a spot. Benching without a spot is insane, but on Hammer Strength, it is just fine. I did my reverse hack squats on a Hammer Strength machine today. It works great.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: phreak on April 02, 2014, 12:26:46 AM
Yesterday:

Lateral raise: 28 kg (62 Lbs) dumbbells, 10,8,8. Close to my goal of 30 kg/65 Lbs. Focus on load first, technique second.

Tricep pushdown (rope): 50 kg (110 Lbs), 12,12,10,6.

Flat dumbell press: 30 kg (65 Lbs), 10,10,10. Yes, absurdly light. First time pressing anything in 4-5 months, didn't want to re-injure my still inflamed supraspinatus. No pain, just wobbly, so I'm happy with that. Gym only has dumbells up to 36 kg (80 Lbs), so two weeks from now I will have to switch to incline only. Still happy I can move my arms a bit. :P

Rear delts: 20 kg (44 Lbs) dumbbells, 10,10,10. Strict form. All that back work seems to translate into a lot of rear delt strength.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 02, 2014, 01:42:19 AM
my gym is closed for renovation.......so I worked out at a different gym tonight.


this facility had very good hammer strength equipment that my gym doesn't have.....so I used some back equipment that has not been available to me......same with the chest equipment......so I did some back work and chest work and a little traps and a few sets of tris.


hammer high rows   3 sets

cybex pullover machine  3 sets

hammer incline  3 sets

hammer wide grip presses  3 sets

cybex overhead extensions 3 sets

hammer shrugs  5 sets


30 minutes on the treadmill
we donīt have them but last Gym did. I used them all the time. Great machines..real heavy duty.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 02, 2014, 05:36:19 AM
Yesterday:

Lateral raise: 28 kg (62 Lbs) dumbbells, 10,8,8. Close to my goal of 30 kg/65 Lbs. Focus on load first, technique second.

Tricep pushdown (rope): 50 kg (110 Lbs), 12,12,10,6.

Flat dumbell press: 30 kg (65 Lbs), 10,10,10. Yes, absurdly light. First time pressing anything in 4-5 months, didn't want to re-injure my still inflamed supraspinatus. No pain, just wobbly, so I'm happy with that. Gym only has dumbells up to 36 kg (80 Lbs), so two weeks from now I will have to switch to incline only. Still happy I can move my arms a bit. :P

Rear delts: 20 kg (44 Lbs) dumbbells, 10,10,10. Strict form. All that back work seems to translate into a lot of rear delt strength.
flat db press and chest in particular last yr had same thing pinched nerve/shoulder/back area ,,I was struggling with 25 lbs dbells took few months to recoup,do 80/90's again inc/flat..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 02, 2014, 11:15:33 PM
I'm so excited....I'm so excited! Today was day three of my return to health through working out and I made it to the gym despite moments of doubt and diversion.

Today I worked back.

Front lat pulldown, 5 X 15 - 6
ISO rows, 4 X 12 - 6
Low cable rows, 3 X 10 - 8
Reverse grip pulldowns, 3 X 12 - 8
Nautilus rowing back,  3 X 12 - 8

Since my arms are killing me and back workouts employ arms, I really lightened up on the resistance while concentrating on form. Hopefully my back while feel comfortably sore as a result of this workout. Likewise, my hams feel good from yesterday.

Tomorrow, I will work delts and abs. I am so glad to be back into it. I may be a geezer, but I get to be a buff geezer if I choose. There is no better feeling then knowing you have control over your own life and health. It has been too long a time since I have felt this way.

Took a chair that my grandson rocked apart while doing his studies to the furniture hospital to be repaired. Afterward, I went to a much loved neighborhood bar to have lunch. Following this I hit a great nursery where I bought several plants to spruce up the garden. By the time I got home, it was later then I normally would go to the gym and yet I still did. I am so proud of myself. In times past, I might have spaced on my workout, but not today. I am taking this one day at a time and so far I am having success.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 03, 2014, 05:42:53 AM
back
pullups x3 15/12/12 bodyweight only
t bar row standard plates loaded at front,2 plates x15/2.5 x12/3 x10/3.5x10
low row seated machine chest to pad x3 175/185/190 'stack type.
hammer strength pulldown reverse grip x3 2 plates per side /other 2 sets added some 5's
one arm dbell rows x2 85/95

BI'S
curls 85/95/105/105
db inc curls 30/35/35
seated curl machine x3
hammers across body 40/45

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 03, 2014, 09:09:19 AM
Full Body today and Cardio...

squats
BB Rows
Dips
BB shoulder press
BB curls

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 03, 2014, 09:19:09 AM
Full Body today and Cardio...

squats
BB Rows
Dips
BB shoulder press
BB curls


nice dude,,,i like to see weights u push or rep schemes ,and not in a comparison or trying to show anybody up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 03, 2014, 09:46:39 AM
no Problem at all..

Deadlifts 140
Squats 125
Bench press 105
shoulder press 60

not a very good bench press or shoulder press but heavy for me. The weights are in KGs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 03, 2014, 09:50:32 AM
no Problem at all..

Deadlifts 140
Squats 125
Bench press 105
shoulder press 60

not a very good bench press or shoulder press but heavy for me. The weights are in KGs.
cool /kg's now i'm confused lol  :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 03, 2014, 09:54:05 AM
http://www.convertunits.com/from/kg/to/lbs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 03, 2014, 10:05:57 AM
http://www.convertunits.com/from/kg/to/lbs
COOL ,,,MADE MY DAY LOL,LEARNED SOMETHING NEW ,,GOOD LIFTS.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 03, 2014, 10:08:38 AM
http://www.convertunits.com/from/kg/to/lbs
I SQUAT 184 KG'S 6/8  :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 03, 2014, 10:25:16 AM
I SQUAT 184 KG'S 6/8  :o
you got legs like Tree trunks Steve. I write it how it is. No Bull just how it is.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 03, 2014, 10:30:07 AM
you got legs like Tree trunks Steve. I write it how it is. No Bull just how it is.
:)..SOLID GUY DONNY...GLAD JAY'S BACK HERE,,MIX IT UP.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 03, 2014, 10:31:24 AM
:)..SOLID GUY DONNY...GLAD JAY'S BACK HERE,,MIX IT UP.
yes Jay is a great Guy. Like his honest feed back...lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 03, 2014, 12:08:30 PM
This guy does great Videos...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 03, 2014, 02:35:28 PM
9 sets for back and 9 sets for delts.


cardio for 30 minutes after the weights.


delts:

seated side laterals  3 sets

bent over laterals  3 sets

hammer strength shrugs  3 sets

one arm hammer strength rows  3 sets

hammer strength high rows  3 sets

hammer strength reverse grip rows 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 03, 2014, 02:37:33 PM
no Problem at all..

Deadlifts 140
Squats 125
Bench press 105
shoulder press 60

not a very good bench press or shoulder press but heavy for me. The weights are in KGs.

Conversion to pounds (rounded to the nearest number)

Deadlifts 375
Squats 335
Bench press 281
Shoulder press 161


Looks impressive to me. I'm lifting pussy weights by comparison at this point. Give me a few months and I hope to be moving some weight at the gym. I don't expect to be a power lifter anytime soon. I have always sacrificed heavy resistance in favor of good form to avoid injuries.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 03, 2014, 06:24:59 PM
-Worked shoulders traps and abs today.

Overhead presses, 5 X 12 - 6
Rear overhead presses, 4 X 12 - 6
Standing side laterals, 4 X 12 - 8
Shrugs, 4 X 12 - 8
Upright cable rows, 4 X 12 - 8
Abroller, 3 X 20
Nautilus twists, 2 X 20
Nautilus ab crunches, 3 X 25
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 03, 2014, 07:25:12 PM
delts day for everyone here 8)...trained at home and had nice workout/pump

should db press 45/50/50/60-45 drop
side raises drops 30/20/15 reps 10per drop x3 's around sick pump
front raise curl bar underhanded x3
rear delt cable raise x2
superset to finish seated bent over rear delt raise with cable raise hand behind back

traps assorted shrugs
cable fr shrug x4
rear cable shrug superset db to sides shrug x3

forearms db reverse and normal grip wrist curls 8 sets 4x4

snapped pic feeling great...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 03, 2014, 08:20:43 PM
delts day for everyone here 8)...trained at home and had nice workout/pump

should db press 45/50/50/60-45 drop
side raises drops 30/20/15 reps 10per drop x3 's around sick pump
front raise curl bar underhanded x3
rear delt cable raise x2
superset to finish seated bent over rear delt raise with cable raise hand behind back

traps assorted shrugs
cable fr shrug x4
rear cable shrug superset db to sides shrug x3

forearms db reverse and normal grip wrist curls 8 sets 4x4

snapped pic feeling great...
looking pretty damn tight there steverino!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 03, 2014, 08:22:59 PM
looking pretty damn tight there steverino!!!
i'm always working it,,,thanxs george ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 03, 2014, 10:58:57 PM
delts day for everyone here 8)...trained at home and had nice workout/pump

should db press 45/50/50/60-45 drop
side raises drops 30/20/15 reps 10per drop x3 's around sick pump
front raise curl bar underhanded x3
rear delt cable raise x2
superset to finish seated bent over rear delt raise with cable raise hand behind back

traps assorted shrugs
cable fr shrug x4
rear cable shrug superset db to sides shrug x3

forearms db reverse and normal grip wrist curls 8 sets 4x4

snapped pic feeling great...

Yeah, looks just like me after my delt and trap workout today. LOL!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 04, 2014, 01:14:39 AM
some solid workouts going on in the Mature comunity... ;D as Long as i feel iīm getting a good workout i am happy with the weights. George tends to Keep it simple straight to the Point as i do and Steve...well he just loves to blast his Body with volume and jay is somewhere in the middle. Wez does volume too but his own Thing with high reps in there too...each has his own Training philosophy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 04, 2014, 05:20:50 AM
some solid workouts going on in the Mature comunity... ;D as Long as i feel iīm getting a good workout i am happy with the weights. George tends to Keep it simple straight to the Point as i do and Steve...well he just loves to blast his Body with volume and jay is somewhere in the middle. Wez does volume too but his own Thing with high reps in there too...each has his own Training philosophy.
I AGREE,,,good points Donny.yeah I don't think I ever have a bad workout ,my strength never goes down even with supersetting push close to same weights.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 04, 2014, 05:31:35 AM
I AGREE,,,good points Donny.yeah I don't think I ever have a bad workout ,my strength never goes down even with supersetting push close to same weights.
my weight Drops with supersets...however the stimulus is there. i am enjoying just doing Basic lifts at the Moment. i like supersets too as you know. I have always tried to stay in condition and big muscles were never important, Speed,stamina, skils. School just opened here in Wing chun so i am going to go and see how it is. Driving to Hannover is time consuming and a good friend knows the Trainer there.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 04, 2014, 10:17:19 AM
YES.....I LIKE TO KEEP IT BASIC......RARELY COUNT REPS.......GO FOR THE PUMP AND FEEL THE MUSCLE WORKING!!!!


NOTHING FANCY.....JUST EXERCISES THAT WORK FOR ME!!!


GONNA TAKE TONIGHT OFF AND MAYBE HAVE A CIGAR......IT HAS BEEN A WHILE.


HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A NICE WEEKEND!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 04, 2014, 10:26:43 AM
YES.....I LIKE TO KEEP IT BASIC......RARELY COUNT REPS.......GO FOR THE PUMP AND FEEL THE MUSCLE WORKING!!!!


NOTHING FANCY.....JUST EXERCISES THAT WORK FOR ME!!!


GONNA TAKE TONIGHT OFF AND MAYBE HAVE A CIGAR......IT HAS BEEN A WHILE.


HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A NICE WEEKEND!
enjoy the Cigar  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 04, 2014, 10:38:28 AM
enjoy the Cigar  ;)
will do.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 04, 2014, 01:58:58 PM
my weight Drops with supersets...however the stimulus is there. i am enjoying just doing Basic lifts at the Moment. i like supersets too as you know. I have always tried to stay in condition and big muscles were never important, Speed,stamina, skils. School just opened here in Wing chun so i am going to go and see how it is. Driving to Hannover is time consuming and a good friend knows the Trainer there.

Where are you in relation to Hannover? Are you north, south, east of west of Hannover. How far are you from Hannover? If I make the trip this summer to may granddaughter's wedding. I will be about 3.5 hours driving time south of Hannover.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 05, 2014, 02:21:02 AM
Where are you in relation to Hannover? Are you north, south, east of west of Hannover. How far are you from Hannover? If I make the trip this summer to may granddaughter's wedding. I will be about 3.5 hours driving time south of Hannover.
there you go ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celle#Geography
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2014, 11:39:21 AM
there you go ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celle#Geography

You are located about 4hrs by car from Uettingen, where I will be for the wedding. Celle appears to be a delightful place.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 05, 2014, 01:01:19 PM
quick question for you guys......


I have been training 20 years now......I am currently 40......but I feel training has gotten better as I have aged......better pumps.....better mind/muscle connection.


some people say that as they get older they don't feel the same way they used to in the gym.....they think their workouts were better at a younger age......I say the workouts get better with age.


let's discuss this.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2014, 01:28:27 PM
I believe that I am more focused than I was when l was younger. Aside from a few recent distractions and health issues, I am able to devote more time and energy to my workouts.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 06, 2014, 01:27:02 AM
quick question for you guys......


I have been training 20 years now......I am currently 40......but I feel training has gotten better as I have aged......better pumps.....better mind/muscle connection.


some people say that as they get older they don't feel the same way they used to in the gym.....they think their workouts were better at a younger age......I say the workouts get better with age.


let's discuss this.
I think as you Age you replace ego with experience...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2014, 10:04:55 AM
legs in a.m. sunday killer,stayed on supeset for 1st sets its brutal


hack squat 2/3/4/5 plates superset with lying leg sled 160/180/200/220
walking lunges 80 lbs x3
extensions 210/225/240 sets 12

hams
sldl dbells 60/75/85
lying leg curls 140/150/155 done 6 full reps then top to middle portion then few reps from bottom to midpoint,like 21's for bi's only with legs.killer

calves
seated raise drops sets 30 reps plate off,plate off did 2plates and 2 25's  ,one off each set painful...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on April 06, 2014, 05:39:43 PM
quick question for you guys......


I have been training 20 years now......I am currently 40......but I feel training has gotten better as I have aged......better pumps.....better mind/muscle connection.


some people say that as they get older they don't feel the same way they used to in the gym.....they think their workouts were better at a younger age......I say the workouts get better with age.


let's discuss this.

Sorry I have been MIA but just buried both in-laws......at 57 my workouts have never been better. I am able to focus more and don't worry about ego like when I was in My 20s and 30s. I don't worry about weight anymore just the pump and slow steady reps with a squeeze.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2014, 05:50:13 PM
Sorry I have been MIA but just buried both in-laws......at 57 my workouts have never been better. I am able to focus more and don't worry about ego like when I was in My 20s and 30s. I don't worry about weight anymore just the pump and slow steady reps with a squeeze.
good to have u back big man,hope all is well...good to hear from u here again...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Wez on April 07, 2014, 07:05:40 AM
good to have u back big man,hope all is well...good to hear from u here again...

Thanks Steve....still been hitting the gym just didn't feel like logging workouts yet.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 07, 2014, 07:34:48 AM
Thanks Steve....still been hitting the gym just didn't feel like logging workouts yet.
I hear ya least thing u want to do is come here and post .we try to be tight knit here nad be 'real'as we can.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 07, 2014, 07:31:42 PM
chest

fdb press 60/70/80/85/85-60 drop

flye/press combo this pumps ,,incline dbell press then right to flye as many as u could do ,8x8/7x7/7x7 of each 45/50 lbser's

seated lower hammer press 2 /2.5/3/ plates 12/10/10

cablecrossovers superset with decline pushups 12x12 x3..

tris 'trisets 3 exercises non stop i go and partner right behind me

4x's around dip machine ,tricep extension,rope pulldowns 30 repset ,120 reps less than 5 minutes..

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 08, 2014, 04:21:28 AM
Cardio...

Deadlifts
BB rows
BB bench press
Close grip chins
BB mil Press
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 09, 2014, 01:22:30 PM
 Cardio + Abs  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 09, 2014, 02:15:17 PM
bis and tris:


hammer curls  7 sets

lying db extensions 3 sets

smith machine close grips  3 sets

reverse grip cable extensions 3 sets

40 minutes treadmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 09, 2014, 07:16:09 PM
back
fr pulldowns 150/165/180
low cable rows 180/195/210..10/10/10
tbar row chest to pad 2 plates/2.5 /2.5 10/8/8
hammer pulldowns side grip x3
db rows off rack 90/95 sets 10
underhand pullups x2 x10

weighted hypers x3

bi's
curl bar premad 60/70/80/90
db curls alternate single to2 arm reps 35/35/40
seated curlmachine x3

abs x5  crunch machine lying sets 20/30
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 11, 2014, 07:19:39 AM
delts/forearms home gymday..

seated db press supeset upright cable rows

side raises superset front raise curl bar

seated rear raises 'rear delt'superset cable rear shrug

fr shrug cable  ss 60lb db shrug at sides

repped out 20 reps per full set 10x10 each movement

i get great pumps from these type workouts when i do them.kinda sore like a heavy day today as well..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 11, 2014, 07:36:40 AM
delts/forearms home gymday..

seated db press supeset upright cable rows

side raises superset front raise curl bar

seated rear raises 'rear delt'superset cable rear shrug

fr shrug cable  ss 60lb db shrug at sides

repped out 20 reps per full set 10x10 each movement

i get great pumps from these type workouts when i do them.kinda sore like a heavy day today as well..
nice...i like it Steve. Can still get a great workout at home. We got a couple of new machines today in the Gym so i pumped chest and Back with ...The dipping Bars in the Gym are wider than mine at home really hit my pecs..

Dips 4xmax
Push ups 4xmax
Butterfly machine 3x10-15
Chins 4xmax
seated Cable rows 4x8
Rear delt machine ( same machine as Butterfly just Position at top changes and Body facing other way) it is for rear delts but it really hits upper back great too) 3x8

no cardio today. I tell you i had a probo Training with 3 Russians which was my last customers.. fuck me  ::) 2 guys and a woman. One was a Young guy of 20, a woman of 35 and a guy of 38. i had to take the 38 year old aside and tell him i was the Trainer and not him. He kept butting in and just fucking around. i nearly threw him out and then he was quite. They will not be signing a contract, shame because the Young guy was ok.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 13, 2014, 11:02:34 AM
Tonight was Cardio and Abs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 13, 2014, 06:19:38 PM
leg day same suit supersets as of late

hack with sled lying x4 10x10 worked up to 5 plates hack /240 sled'stack version.

stair lunges 45 lb plate per hand ss extensions up to 235 extensions x4

stifflegged deads hams 135/185/235/255 ss lying leg curls 140/145/150/155

calves

seated calf raise drops 10 reps x3 3 plate/2.5/2 plates sick pump..30 reps
2 sets standing calf raise

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 14, 2014, 03:07:09 AM
leg day same suit supersets as of late

hack with sled lying x4 10x10 worked up to 5 plates hack /240 sled'stack version.

stair lunges 45 lb plate per hand ss extensions up to 235 extensions x4

stifflegged deads hams 135/185/235/255 ss lying leg curls 140/145/150/155

calves

seated calf raise drops 10 reps x3 3 plate/2.5/2 plates sick pump..30 reps
2 sets standing calf raise


Only you could Train legs like this Steve... Stair lunges with Leg extensions... :o simple but Brutal. who says you Need fancy new machines..  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 14, 2014, 05:49:24 AM
Only you could Train legs like this Steve... Stair lunges with Leg extensions... :o simple but Brutal. who says you Need fancy new machines..  ;D
its fun  ;D..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 14, 2014, 06:00:19 AM
its fun  ;D..
Respect Steve. when i squat hard i feel it but what you do is crazy. I feel the fatigue in my legs maybe because i do lots of cardio. I like to hit cardio hard too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 14, 2014, 06:56:51 AM
Respect Steve. when i squat hard i feel it but what you do is crazy. I feel the fatigue in my legs maybe because i do lots of cardio. I like to hit cardio hard too.
8)...OUR THREAD HAS COME OF RAILS A BIT ,CORE 5 ARE IN AND OUT AND OTHER'ASPECTS OF LIFE'HAVE TAKEN OVER,I COME HERE EVERY DAY TO POST SOMETHING.IT WILL LIVE!!!!LOL

ON A OTHER NOTE.
WE CELEBRATED PALM SUNDAY AT MY MOMS ,AND I WENT TO MASS WITH DAUGHTER SHE'S RECIEVEING COMMUNION 1ST TIME IN MAY
I ALWAYS GET PALMS AND MAKE CROSSES OUT OF THEM FOR MY FAMILY AND GIVE EM OUT.
DINNER WAS.
1ST COURSE RAVIOLI,
ANTIPASTO
TRADITIONAL ITALIAN EASTER 'PASQUA'DISH CALLED'PIZZA GAIN OR PIZZA RUSTICA'ITS MADE WITH EGG/PROSCUITTO/RICOTTA BAKED
 LIKE A PIE

TURKEY/LAMB/SWEET POTATOES/RED POTATOES/ASPARUGUS W RED ONION @OLIVE OIL.
SALAD

DESSERT
ESPRESSO
COFEE
TRADITIONAL EASTER DESSERT ITALIAN PIE RICOTTA PIE AND SP?BASTACHIOTTA ITS CHOCOLATE WITH ANISETTE CRUST
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 14, 2014, 07:14:20 AM
8)...OUR THREAD HAS COME OF RAILS A BIT ,CORE 5 ARE IN AND OUT AND OTHER'ASPECTS OF LIFE'HAVE TAKEN OVER,I COME HERE EVERY DAY TO POST SOMETHING.IT WILL LIVE!!!!LOL

ON A OTHER NOTE.
WE CELEBRATED PALM SUNDAY AT MY MOMS ,AND I WENT TO MASS WITH DAUGHTER SHE'S RECIEVEING COMMUNION 1ST TIME IN MAY
I ALWAYS GET PALMS AND MAKE CROSSES OUT OF THEM FOR MY FAMILY AND GIVE EM OUT.
DINNER WAS.
1ST COURSE RAVIOLI,
ANTIPASTO
TRADITIONAL ITALIAN EASTER 'PASQUA'DISH CALLED'PIZZA GAIN OR PIZZA RUSTICA'ITS MADE WITH EGG/PROSCUITTO/RICOTTA BAKED
 LIKE A PIE

TURKEY/LAMB/SWEET POTATOES/RED POTATOES/ASPARUGUS W RED ONION @OLIVE OIL.
SALAD

DESSERT
ESPRESSO
COFEE
TRADITIONAL EASTER DESSERT ITALIAN PIE RICOTTA PIE AND SP?BASTACHIOTTA ITS CHOCOLATE WITH ANISETTE CRUST
Good man.I am not as you know a Catholic but i understand your faith as my best mate when growing up had a very strong Catholic Family(wrote it before) and as a Young guy Religion was a big Thing then. I would love to sit with you and your Family and eat your great Food! Jay i am sure will come over to Celle when he is over in Germany. He is very welcome.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 14, 2014, 07:48:53 AM
Good man.I am not as you know a Catholic but i understand your faith as my best mate when growing up had a very strong Catholic Family(wrote it before) and as a Young guy Religion was a big Thing then. I would love to sit with you and your Family and eat your great Food! Jay i am sure will come over to Celle when he is over in Germany. He is very welcome.
RELIGION I GUESS IS WHAT YOU PUT IN AND GET OUT OF IT.TRYING TO GET MY DAUGHTER ON SOME PATH AND SHE CAN FIGURE HERSELF OUT AS YOUNG ADULT WHEN SHE CROSSES THAT BRIGDE,I ENJOY CHURCH BUT I'M STILL NOT SURE WHAT AWAITS AT TIME,THE DIVINE 'PLAN'.I GO CAUSE IT GIVES ME CLOSURE FOR THE WEEK AND KEEPS ME GROUNDED SOMEWAHT AS I GET OLDER.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 14, 2014, 08:00:54 AM
RELIGION I GUESS IS WHAT YOU PUT IN AND GET OUT OF IT.TRYING TO GET MY DAUGHTER ON SOME PATH AND SHE CAN FIGURE HERSELF OUT AS YOUNG ADULT WHEN SHE CROSSES THAT BRIGDE,I ENJOY CHURCH BUT I'M STILL NOT SURE WHAT AWAITS AT TIME,THE DIVINE 'PLAN'.I GO CAUSE IT GIVES ME CLOSURE FOR THE WEEK AND KEEPS ME GROUNDED SOMEWAHT AS I GET OLDER.
Nothing wrong with it Steve.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 14, 2014, 12:45:20 PM
We've been having great sunny and warm weather lately which means I have been out in the yard working from morning until night. Springtime is such an exciting time with the trees budding out, perennials popping up out of the soil and my favorite nursery being open for business (It closes during the winter months).

One shrub died over the winter....maybe it just got old and tired. I dug it out and planted a Miss Kim Lilac, which is a dwarf lilac that matures to about 4' tall and wide. Some rosemary I had growing off the patio also looked a bit tired. I dug it out and replace one of them with Pyracantha Mohave which will eventually cover most of the wall it is planted in front of. It is loaded with tiny white blossoms right now. In the fall it should be covered in bright orange berries which the birds like to eat. Today I am going to pick out a Nandina Domestica to fill the spot where I took out the other Rosemary plant.

My son-in-law bought a pressure washer. He has been pressure washing the front walk and driveway. It looks great like new concrete and the sometimes slippery moss is eradicated making he trek to the mailbox much safer.
NICE JAY,,,WE HAD LLOOOOOONNNGGG WINTER HERE 2,,I HAD TO REBUILD SOME FRONT STEPS AND HAVE TO ORDER NEW RAILINGS FOR FRONT,I DID SOME SPOT SEEDING AND NEES TO PLANT A FEW SHRUBS 'MEDIUM' SIZED .I DO ALL MY OWN YARD WORK,LANDSCAPING,ROCK OR MULCHING..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 14, 2014, 05:56:00 PM
NICE JAY,,,WE HAD LLOOOOOONNNGGG WINTER HERE 2,,I HAD TO REBUILD SOME FRONT STEPS AND HAVE TO ORDER NEW RAILINGS FOR FRONT,I DID SOME SPOT SEEDING AND NEES TO PLANT A FEW SHRUBS 'MEDIUM' SIZED .I DO ALL MY OWN YARD WORK,LANDSCAPING,ROCK OR MULCHING..

You folks in the East get much worse winters than we have in western Oregon. We are in planting Zone 8. It rarely gets below freezing and when it does, it only lasts a couple of days. We did get a late snow which confused and damaged some of the less hardy bulbs I have, like Paper whites. They were busy popping up in late January only to get their leaves frostbitten. I doubt they will bloom this year.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 14, 2014, 07:46:23 PM
chest
fdb press 60/70/80/85
inc db 60/60/65 superset inc flye 40/40/40
hammer mid/low press seated upto 3 plates per side
dips x2 bodyweight set 1 set 2 25 lb plate added
cable crossovers x3x12

tris
seated extension machine 130/135/150/165
pushdowns x3
close grip x3 135/165/175
cable kickbacks x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 15, 2014, 01:06:27 AM
chest
fdb press 60/70/80/85
inc db 60/60/65 superset inc flye 40/40/40
hammer mid/low press seated upto 3 plates per side
dips x2 bodyweight set 1 set 2 25 lb plate added
cable crossovers x3x12

tris
seated extension machine 130/135/150/165
pushdowns x3
close grip x3 135/165/175
cable kickbacks x2

abs
solid Steve.... Train later too ;)  Nice Garden you got Jay... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 15, 2014, 07:26:52 AM
CHEST:

INCLINE DB PRESSES  3 SETS

CABLE FLYES  3 SETS

SEATED MACHINE PRESSES  3 SETS

BIS:

HAMMER CURLS  8 SETS

TREADMILL 40 MINUTES
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 16, 2014, 12:46:27 AM
CHEST:

INCLINE DB PRESSES  3 SETS

CABLE FLYES  3 SETS

SEATED MACHINE PRESSES  3 SETS

BIS:

HAMMER CURLS  8 SETS

TREADMILL 40 MINUTES
good to see your doing your cardio George. will hit mine later
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 16, 2014, 07:10:57 AM
good to see your doing your cardio George. will hit mine later
thanks Donny......try to do it every night....except for leg night.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 16, 2014, 07:13:09 AM
back:

lat pulldowns   3 sets

one arm cable rows  3 sets

chest supported t bar rows  3 sets

close grip machine pulldowns  3 sets

20 minutes stepmill   20 minutes treadmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 17, 2014, 06:15:42 AM
BACK
HAMMER MACHINE PULLDOWNS X3 USUALLY UNDERHANDED DID SIDE GRIP HANDS FACE EACH OTHER
UNDERHANDED BENT OVER ROWS 185/205/225 10/10/10
LOW ROW PULLY CABLE ROWS 160/180/200 10/10/10
PULLUPS X3 X12 REPS TOUGH 4TH EXERCISE IN
STANDING LAT ROPE PULLDOWNS TO WAIST X3

WEIGHTED HYPERS

BI'S
BARBELL CURL PREMADE BAR 60/70/80...DROP 90X6/80X6/70X6
DB CURLS X3 35/40/40
SEATED CURL MACHINE X2
ROPE CURLS 3 POSITION BOTTOM /MID/FULL 5/5/5 X3

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 17, 2014, 08:13:57 AM
so i will split my Routine in two halfes...

Bench press             
Parallel Bar Dips
Military Press
Abs
   

Squats
Deadlifts
BB rows
Close grip chins
Calfes                   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 17, 2014, 08:18:17 AM
so i will split my Routine in two halfes...

Bench press             
Parallel Bar Dips
Military Press
Abs
   

Squats
Deadlifts
BB rows
Close grip chins
Calfes                   
NICE,,,POWER TRAINING
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 17, 2014, 08:20:45 AM
NICE,,,POWER TRAINING
Going to be hard with Deads and squats together but i will try it... ;D Gotta go for it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 17, 2014, 07:07:49 PM
delts @home

front press superset close grip upright rows  x3

side laterals drops 30/20/15 10 repsper x3

rear delt raise with reverse shrug cable x3

shrug cable superset front raise x3

2x cable raise side slow /squeeze

forearms
dumbell wrist curl
reverse curl
reverse single arm wrist curl on knee

arnoldesque side chest..he was master....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 19, 2014, 03:48:13 AM
 Today was...

Squats
BB rows
Close Grip Chins
Deadlifts
Standing calf raises on the Smith machine.

Interval cardio 30 mins on the Cross Trainer.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on April 19, 2014, 09:43:01 AM
leg work last night.....


squats  3 sets

leg press 3 sets (with rest pause on all 3 sets) crazy burn!!!

leg extensions  3 sets (with rest pause on all 3 sets)

hyperextensions 3 sets

seated calf raises  4 sets

Happy Easter to you all!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 19, 2014, 12:55:23 PM
leg work last night.....


squats  3 sets

leg press 3 sets (with rest pause on all 3 sets) crazy burn!!!

leg extensions  3 sets (with rest pause on all 3 sets)

hyperextensions 3 sets

seated calf raises  4 sets

Happy Easter to you all!!!
Great workout...Happy Easter  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 19, 2014, 09:56:14 PM
Hope you all have a really great Easter Sunday. My wife is fixing a small leg of lamb and a honey baked ham for those who don't eat lamb. I am fixing potatoes Anna. I think we are having green beans for a vegetable. Not sure what else Margie has planned, but it sure is good that she's healthy enough to do some cooking. It is her passion. A longtime friend is joining us for dinner.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 22, 2014, 01:56:24 AM
 so after all the Good eating i did... i will go for a Long run in the Woods and get some fresh air... sunny Day with a breeze just how i like it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 22, 2014, 05:52:41 AM
chest

fdb press..60/70/80/85.. 12/10/8/6
inc dbell superset with inc flyes these pumped the crap out pecs ..60/60/65... 40/40/40  shoot for 10x10
hammer press low/pec press 2/2.5/3 plates per side ..15/10/10
cable crossovers x3
dips x2 sets 20 nice finish

tris superset today good work

rope overhead ss with rope pushowns x3
dip machine with cable kickbacks x3
db close bench press 'dbells close palms hands face each other brought on top chest pressed straight up ,elbows close locked in 'press up hits tris good.

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 22, 2014, 08:47:05 AM
Maybe a bit late, but I would like to thank Jay/Prime for his suggestion to try coconut oil as conditioner, good stuff!

(http://s10.postimg.org/a27fyx92x/coconut_oil_of_peace.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 22, 2014, 08:55:25 AM
Maybe a bit late, but I would like to thank Jay/Prime for his suggestion to try coconut oil as conditioner, good stuff!

(http://s10.postimg.org/a27fyx92x/coconut_oil_of_peace.jpg)
NICE THUMB,SYMMETRICAL/AESTHETICALLY PLEASING..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 22, 2014, 09:11:47 AM
NICE THUMB,SYMMETRICAL/AESTHETICALLY PLEASING..

Thank you!
Coach Huang taught me how to perfectionize the thumbs up pose. They're not shredded yet since I'm 8 months out.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 22, 2014, 09:52:07 AM
Thank you!
Coach Huang taught me how to perfectionize the thumbs up pose. They're not shredded yet since I'm 8 months out.
;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 23, 2014, 02:08:13 AM
chest

fdb press..60/70/80/85.. 12/10/8/6
inc dbell superset with inc flyes these pumped the crap out pecs ..60/60/65... 40/40/40  shoot for 10x10
hammer press low/pec press 2/2.5/3 plates per side ..15/10/10
cable crossovers x3
dips x2 sets 20 nice finish

tris superset today good work

rope overhead ss with rope pushowns x3
dip machine with cable kickbacks x3
db close bench press 'dbells close palms hands face each other brought on top chest pressed straight up ,elbows close locked in 'press up hits tris good.

abs
wish we had Hammer Strength machines... :'( your Tris must have been blasted after all that steve
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 23, 2014, 06:39:02 AM
wish we had Hammer Strength machines... :'( your Tris must have been blasted after all that steve
yeah great pump ,tri/supersets I rotate in around a heavy one,,i still think the set to set hi rep works tris best pump wise,i still like heavy day evry 3rd rotation to stay strong/shock with heavier weight.my tri set's still is pretty heavy ass weight ,so the whole 'heavy rest 60 sec or few minutes to go heavier means crap...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 23, 2014, 09:34:25 AM
Today was...

Bench press
Parallel Bar Dips
Military press
Hanging leg raises

45 mins cross trainer
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 23, 2014, 09:39:56 AM
Today was...

Bench press
Parallel Bar Dips
Military press
Hanging leg raises

45 mins cross trainer
I NEED DIP BARS IN MY BASEMENT ..I HAVE NICE PUSHUP HANDLES
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 23, 2014, 09:54:48 AM
I NEED DIP BARS IN MY BASEMENT ..I HAVE NICE PUSHUP HANDLES
yeah i got them at home too... kills my triceps after Dips, bench press, shoulder press. Enough for me ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on April 23, 2014, 10:39:54 AM
I NEED DIP BARS IN MY BASEMENT ..I HAVE NICE PUSHUP HANDLES
i have two sets of dip bars in the home gym one on a power tower and one built in on my gymbatics bench. one is narrowerer[is that a word?] pics taken 2 weeks after a 5 month enforced layoff.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 23, 2014, 10:41:50 AM
i have two sets of dip bars in the home gym one on a power tower and one built in on my gymbatics bench. one is narrowerer[is that a word?] pics taken 2 weeks after a 5 month enforced layoff.
NICE FUNK..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 24, 2014, 07:54:51 AM
i have two sets of dip bars in the home gym one on a power tower and one built in on my gymbatics bench. one is narrowerer[is that a word?] pics taken 2 weeks after a 5 month enforced layoff.
Funky Bro doing his Thing... ;D you can get Dip Bars which you can bolt to your wall to save space.. maybe a good option.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 24, 2014, 07:58:13 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 24, 2014, 09:00:15 AM
;)


I prefer a V-shaped version to ease the stress on the wrists, and a thick frame as well, though this can be fixed with thick grips.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 24, 2014, 09:07:29 AM
I prefer a V-shaped version to ease the stress on the wrists, and a thick frame as well, though this can be fixed with thick grips.
yeah the wider v shape bars hit your chest more.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 24, 2014, 11:10:37 AM
BACK/BI'S /ABS..HOME

BEHIND NECK PULLDOWN SUPERSET WITH INNER GRIP CURL BAR BENT ROWS X3

FRONT PULLDOWN STANDING PULL TO WAIST/STRETCH SS LOW CABLE ROWS UNDERHAND'SM STRAIGHT BAR' X3

FRONT PULLDOWN SS WITH ROPE PULL 'STRETCH FROM TOP PULL TOWARD HEAD 'HITS UPPER BACK.

FINISHED 2 SETS 60 LB DBELLS DONE TOGETHER AT SIDE DB ROW

BIS
CURL BAR ELBOWS IN BENT OVER HANGING LIKE PREACHER MINUS THE BENCH LOL  SS WITH DB CURLS SEATED X3

INC DB CURL  SS HAMMER CURL DB BROUGHT ACROSS BODY INSTEAD UP/DOWN X3

CURL BAR X2 WIDE

ABS FLOOR CRUNCHES 30/50
LYING OLD SCHOOL LEG RAISES ON BENCH

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 24, 2014, 11:44:14 AM
BACK/BI'S /ABS..HOME

BEHIND NECK PULLDOWN SUPERSET WITH INNER GRIP CURL BAR BENT ROWS X3

FRONT PULLDOWN STANDING PULL TO WAIST/STRETCH SS LOW CABLE ROWS UNDERHAND'SM STRAIGHT BAR' X3

FRONT PULLDOWN SS WITH ROPE PULL 'STRETCH FROM TOP PULL TOWARD HEAD 'HITS UPPER BACK.

FINISHED 2 SETS 60 LB DBELLS DONE TOGETHER AT SIDE DB ROW

BIS
CURL BAR ELBOWS IN BENT OVER HANGING LIKE PREACHER MINUS THE BENCH LOL  SS WITH DB CURLS SEATED X3

INC DB CURL  SS HAMMER CURL DB BROUGHT ACROSS BODY INSTEAD UP/DOWN X3

CURL BAR X2 WIDE

ABS FLOOR CRUNCHES 30/50
LYING OLD SCHOOL LEG RAISES ON BENCH


face pulls are very effective for rear delt and UPPER back.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 24, 2014, 02:13:26 PM
nice Video very strong and Dips too..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 24, 2014, 07:14:46 PM
delts ..gym

dbpress 50/55/60/60-45 drop
side raises 25/30/30--30/25/20 drop 8-10 reps for the drop.. pumped..
front raise curl bar underhand grip premade bar..50/50/60
rear delt bent over cable x3
behind back cable lateral rear raise x2
cable used singlehandles together cable up rights x2

shrugs
135/no straps..185 no straps/225 no straps..225/295 uses wrist straps..tried something different use straps less..
rear reverse shrugs on chest machine 'hammer lying version/3/4/2 plates per side

forarms weighted rolls rope x2
cable reverse wrist curls x4
cable foward wrist curl for inner forearm..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on April 25, 2014, 11:39:35 AM
i have two sets of dip bars in the home gym one on a power tower and one built in on my gymbatics bench. one is narrowerer[is that a word?] pics taken 2 weeks after a 5 month enforced layoff.

You look great, funk!


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 26, 2014, 04:07:37 AM
gonna sit outside get some sun with my Vanilla Ice cream.... :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 26, 2014, 10:54:02 AM
heavy leg day back to basics..

squat 135/225/275/315/365...15/12/10/10/10
leg sled press machine lying flat on back..200/220/240/240..12/12/10/10
extensions ...205x15/220x15/235x12/250x12

hams
sldl135/185/225/
seated leg curl supsetted wirh seated calf raise x4
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 28, 2014, 01:50:55 AM
Today will be ..

squats
Deadlifts
BB rows
close grip chins
seated calf raises
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 28, 2014, 07:29:56 PM
chest
inc db 50 warmup,60/65/70/75-55
fdb press superset with flat flyes..60/65/65..40/40/40
hammer lower sit uppress x4 2plates/2.5/3/back to 2 plates
cable crossovers superset with dips x3

tris
rope overhead extensions x4
pushdowns x4 130/140/145/150
reverse underhand pulldowns x3
cable kickbacks x2 x15
 
abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 29, 2014, 05:46:13 AM
chest
inc db 50 warmup,60/65/70/75-55
fdb press superset with flat flyes..60/65/65..40/40/40
hammer lower sit uppress x4 2plates/2.5/3/back to 2 plates
cable crossovers superset with dips x3

tris
rope overhead extensions x4
pushdowns x4 130/140/145/150
reverse underhand pulldowns x3
cable kickbacks x2 x15
 
abs
great stuff Big Stevo...i went for a run through the Woods today. Nice weather got some sun. Was hard because my Quads were tired from yesterdays workout. Woods and tracks were full of nordic Walkers with sticks pain in the arse because the tracks are narrow.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 29, 2014, 06:38:55 AM
great stuff Big Stevo...i went for a run through the Woods today. Nice weather got some sun. Was hard because my Quads were tired from yesterdays workout. Woods and tracks were full of nordic Walkers with sticks pain in the arse because the tracks are narrow.
nice Donny..i'm not a woodsman lol,,,sounds like peaceful stuff..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 29, 2014, 06:46:19 AM
nice Donny..i'm not a woodsman lol,,,sounds like peaceful stuff..
I just like the peace to run without cars and noise around you. Got to admit have been doing more cardio in the gym recently. just convenience really. However running gets you in shape faster than any Gym machine(cardio).  What i do like about Gym Cardio machines is you can Switch programmes at the push of a button.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 30, 2014, 03:40:01 AM
Today i worked my pushing muscles.

Bench press
Dips
Military press

just 3 exercises 5x5.. then i did 3 sets of incline sit ups 25 reps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 30, 2014, 04:44:00 AM
Today i worked my pushing muscles.

Bench press
Dips
Military press

just 3 exercises 5x5.. then i did 3 sets of incline sit ups 25 reps.
nice...i'm such a volume and bodypart multi movements ,its nice to see what u do..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 30, 2014, 05:34:16 AM
nice...i'm such a volume and bodypart multi movements ,its nice to see what u do..
I like Volume too Steve but at the Moment i am concentrating on just a few moves. i am even just hanging from a chin up bar for grip strength.. i feel it will help my Deadlifts.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 01, 2014, 11:07:13 AM
BACK/BIS /ABS

HAMMER MACHINE UNDER HAND PULLDOWNS X4
TBAR CHEST TO PAD ROWS 2 PLATES/2.5/2.5  10/10/10
WIDE BAR LOWER CABLE ROWS 165/180/195
ROPE PULLDOWNS STANDING PULL TO WAIST /STRETCH X3 LOVE THESE
DB ROWS 85/95/100

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3 SET 12/15

BIS
SEATED CURL MACHINEX4
PREMADE CURL BAR 80 SUPERSET OLD SCHOLL HAMMERS 35'S X3 10/10 REPS NICE PUMP
CONCENTRATION ON THE KNEE SEATED CURLS X2 30,35 10 REPS
 
ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 01, 2014, 11:38:23 PM
BACK/BIS /ABS

HAMMER MACHINE UNDER HAND PULLDOWNS X4
TBAR CHEST TO PAD ROWS 2 PLATES/2.5/2.5  10/10/10
WIDE BAR LOWER CABLE ROWS 165/180/195
ROPE PULLDOWNS STANDING PULL TO WAIST /STRETCH X3 LOVE THESE
DB ROWS 85/95/100

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3 SET 12/15

BIS
SEATED CURL MACHINEX4
PREMADE CURL BAR 80 SUPERSET OLD SCHOLL HAMMERS 35'S X3 10/10 REPS NICE PUMP
CONCENTRATION ON THE KNEE SEATED CURLS X2 30,35 10 REPS
 
ABS

undergrip Hammer machine i liked doing but i do undergrip chins now instead...  one Thing i noticed is after merely hanging for 3x max holds on a chin bar my lats were sore too for 2 days ;D really stretched them out..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 02, 2014, 09:52:28 AM
undergrip Hammer machine i liked doing but i do undergrip chins now instead...  one Thing i noticed is after merely hanging for 3x max holds on a chin bar my lats were sore too for 2 days ;D really stretched them out..
I LIKE UNDERHANDED CHINS 'GRIP'MY MID TO UPPER MID BACK GETS VERY SORE FROM THOSE.

DELTS @HOME

SEATED DB PRESS 45/45/50/50/60 15/12/12/10/6
SEATED SIDE LATERALS 20/30/30/30-20 DROP
UPRIGHT ROWS SUPERSETTED WITH FRONT RAISES DB TURNED 'HAMMER GRIP 'X3
REAR DELT RAISES SUPERSETTED CABLE BEHIND BACK SHRUGS X3
FRONT CABLE SHRUGS SUPERSETTED DB SHRUGS 'DB TO SIDE'60 'S 10X10 2 SETS TO FINISH
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 02, 2014, 10:00:30 AM
I LIKE UNDERHANDED CHINS 'GRIP'MY MID TO UPPER MID BACK GETS VERY SORE FROM THOSE.

DELTS @HOME

SEATED DB PRESS 45/45/50/50/60 15/12/12/10/6
SEATED SIDE LATERALS 20/30/30/30-20 DROP
UPRIGHT ROWS SUPERSETTED WITH FRONT RAISES DB TURNED 'HAMMER GRIP 'X3
REAR DELT RAISES SUPERSETTED CABLE BEHIND BACK SHRUGS X3
FRONT CABLE SHRUGS SUPERSETTED DB SHRUGS 'DB TO SIDE'60 'S 10X10 2 SETS TO FINISH
I like underhand chins better but what do you think about wide grip Steve?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 02, 2014, 10:11:56 AM
I like underhand chins better but what do you think about wide grip Steve?
I DO THEM TOO AT TIMES.ALL VARIATIONS HAVE THERE PLACE ,SOMETIMES I DO 2 INNER2 UNDER/2 WIDE TO GET THE BACK GOING OR WEIGHTED WIDE ADD 30 LBS ON BELT .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2014, 05:00:08 AM
I DO THEM TOO AT TIMES.ALL VARIATIONS HAVE THERE PLACE ,SOMETIMES I DO 2 INNER2 UNDER/2 WIDE TO GET THE BACK GOING OR WEIGHTED WIDE ADD 30 LBS ON BELT .
I did a similar Thing.. i used to chin behind the neck but i think it caused an injury.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2014, 05:06:48 AM
Today...
Squats
Deadlifts
BB rows
Close grip chin ups
one legged calf raises with DB
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 03, 2014, 05:35:59 AM
Inner workout shake: 10 gr bcaa, 5 gr creatine, 1 scoop waxy maize & 1/2 cup oats (John Meadows style)

Machine assisted wide grip pull ups
Barbell rows
Hyperextentions with a DB
Standing leg curls
Seated lateral DB raises
Seated front DB raises
Concentration curls
DB wrist curls

Post workout shake: 2 scoops unflavored whey, 1/2 scoop cocoa & 2 small scoops of green powder.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2014, 06:10:34 AM
Inner workout shake: 10 gr bcaa, 5 gr creatine, 1 scoop waxy maize & 1/2 cup oats (John Meadows style)

Machine assisted wide grip pull ups
Barbell rows
Hyperextentions with a DB
Standing leg curls
Seated lateral DB raises
Seated front DB raises
Concentration curls
DB wrist curls

Post workout shake: 2 scoops unflavored whey, 1/2 scoop cocoa & 2 small scoops of green powder.
Good to see Barbell Rows in there. no other exercise builds mass like this move. DB rows are great too but a Barbell really taxes your whole back, erectors...it all.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2014, 06:14:18 AM
see People here trying to duplicate this old School move with seated cable rows using an ez bar attachment and wide grip....will never build like the Barbell Rows. Just my opinion. although constant Tension has itīs place too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 03, 2014, 06:29:17 AM
Today...
Squats
Deadlifts
BB rows
Close grip chin ups
one legged calf raises with DB
if I do legs at home lol,,at times I have to,i do 1 legged calf raise  db it burns..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 03, 2014, 06:30:57 AM
Good to see Barbell Rows in there. no other exercise builds mass like this move. DB rows are great too but a Barbell really taxes your whole back, erectors...it all.

And I did them in the squat rack, some iron fundamentalists may hate me for that  :D
Normally I perform DB rows. The thing with BB rows is that my hips starting to hurt after the hyperextensions, so I need to adjust this combination.

see People here trying to duplicate this old School move with seated cable rows using an ez bar attachment and wide grip....will never build like the Barbell Rows. Just my opinion. although constant Tension has itīs place too.

I've never been a big fan of cable rows, no machine runs as smooth as a free weight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 03, 2014, 06:33:22 AM
And I did them in the squat rack, some iron fundamentalists may hate me for that  :D
Normally I perform DB rows. The thing with BB rows is that my hips starting to hurt after the hyperextensions, so I need to adjust this combination.
weird question,why don't you finish with hypers after all other back work,thats what I do.or do you warm up with hypers?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 03, 2014, 06:36:38 AM
weird question,why don't you finish with hypers after all other back work,thats what I do.or do you warm up with hypers?

Not weird at all, but that's actually what I do. I use it as a 'bridge' between a back and hamstring workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 03, 2014, 06:40:17 AM
Not weird at all, but that's actually what I do. I use it as a 'bridge' between a back and hamstring workout.
back/hams was and is great workout esp if u have stubborn hams and need some growth or condition 6/10 sets free of burnt quad pain is the ticket,lucky for me my legs get all around work and still both super strong same day workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2014, 06:42:58 AM
if I do legs at home lol,,at times I have to,i do 1 legged calf raise  db it burns..
I do them in the Gym too. Great exercise and although i am not a big Arthur jones fan , he was correct in that he said that this exercise was the reason why there was no Need to develop a calf raise machine.. although later came the Nautilus machine calf raise with a belt that went around your hips...bent over like a Donkey calf raise...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2014, 06:51:24 AM
weird question,why don't you finish with hypers after all other back work,thats what I do.or do you warm up with hypers?
Got to admit i would work lower back last with hypers. I would save my lower back strength for rowing as the erectors are very crucial in barbell rows... but each to his own. hypers do work Hams not bad and glutes, infact i Train women with These as a part of glute Training.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 03, 2014, 07:54:25 AM
Got to admit i would work lower back last with hypers. I would save my lower back strength for rowing as the erectors are very crucial in barbell rows... but each to his own. hypers do work Hams not bad and glutes, infact i Train women with These as a part of glute Training.
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exactly..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on May 03, 2014, 10:37:16 AM
Very inspirational, gentlemen.  Thanks!

I have just started HIT again but with the difference being I have decided to try resting longer between training sessions as Mentzer advocated in his final book (which I just bought).  My joints ache from almost 40 years of lifting and try as I might I no longer can train every day. 

I do three sets for each bodypart.  DB laterals (I do four sets of very light weight to warm that area up then my one working set!) followed by machine shoulder presses ( I go to failure and follow that with up to four rest/pause reps on the machine press only) followed by machine rear delt raises..

Arms consist of one set each of barbell curls, Scott curls and machine pulley curls for biceps and dips, close grip machine bench press and tricep pushdowns.

One set each to failure of wrist curls in both directions.


Rest 72 hours.

Back is one set each of the following:  Palms up pull-ups to failure with negatives and rest/pause followed by Smith machine bent over rows and finally palms up lat pulldowns.

Chest is one set each of pec dec followed by machine bench presses and finally Smith machine incline bench press.  I will do negatives on the machine bench press and rest pause on the Smith machine after I complete each respective set to positive failure.

That's it.  I rest 96 hours and begin again.  This is my second week of training this way and I can say that I am SORE for  a few days and eager to train when the time rolls around again.  It is very difficult being more of a volume trainer to do this but I really want to see if it helps me to at least maintain my physique at this point in my life and if possible, increase in muscular size and strength.

Any comments and/or insight are appreciated.  You men have me beat in strength and physique, believe me but as I said, it's all very inspirational reading your routines and accomplishments.

Thanks.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 03, 2014, 10:45:19 AM
back/hams was and is great workout esp if u have stubborn hams and need some growth or condition 6/10 sets free of burnt quad pain is the ticket,lucky for me my legs get all around work and still both super strong same day workout.

A push/pull split is my way to go (day 1: quads, chest, front delts, triceps & forearm extensors and day 2: back, hamstrings, side delts, biceps & forearm flexors). This eases the recovery which makes it possible to train each muscle (calves & traps excluded) twice per week.

Training the front delts during my pull workout was an exception this time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 03, 2014, 11:57:59 AM
Very inspirational, gentlemen.  Thanks!

I have just started HIT again but with the difference being I have decided to try resting longer between training sessions as Mentzer advocated in his final book (which I just bought).  My joints ache from almost 40 years of lifting and try as I might I no longer can train every day. 

I do three sets for each bodypart.  DB laterals (I do four sets of very light weight to warm that area up then my one working set!) followed by machine shoulder presses ( I go to failure and follow that with up to four rest/pause reps on the machine press only) followed by machine rear delt raises..

Arms consist of one set each of barbell curls, Scott curls and machine pulley curls for biceps and dips, close grip machine bench press and tricep pushdowns.

One set each to failure of wrist curls in both directions.


Rest 72 hours.

Back is one set each of the following:  Palms up pull-ups to failure with negatives and rest/pause followed by Smith machine bent over rows and finally palms up lat pulldowns.

Chest is one set each of pec dec followed by machine bench presses and finally Smith machine incline bench press.  I will do negatives on the machine bench press and rest pause on the Smith machine after I complete each respective set to positive failure.

That's it.  I rest 96 hours and begin again.  This is my second week of training this way and I can say that I am SORE for  a few days and eager to train when the time rolls around again.  It is very difficult being more of a volume trainer to do this but I really want to see if it helps me to at least maintain my physique at this point in my life and if possible, increase in muscular size and strength.

Any comments and/or insight are appreciated.  You men have me beat in strength and physique, believe me but as I said, it's all very inspirational reading your routines and accomplishments.

Thanks.


COOL 'THE SCOTT'YOUR A GREAT POSTER HERE AND EVERYWHERE..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 03, 2014, 11:58:35 AM
A push/pull split is my way to go (day 1: quads, chest, front delts, triceps & forearm extensors and day 2: back, hamstrings, side delts, biceps & forearm flexors). This eases the recovery which makes it possible to train each muscle (calves & traps excluded) twice per week.

Training the front delts during my pull workout was an exception this time.
NICE D.P.LOOKS SOUND AND NOT BORING SAME OL SAME OL...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 04, 2014, 01:38:47 AM
Very inspirational, gentlemen.  Thanks!

I have just started HIT again but with the difference being I have decided to try resting longer between training sessions as Mentzer advocated in his final book (which I just bought).  My joints ache from almost 40 years of lifting and try as I might I no longer can train every day. 

I do three sets for each bodypart.  DB laterals (I do four sets of very light weight to warm that area up then my one working set!) followed by machine shoulder presses ( I go to failure and follow that with up to four rest/pause reps on the machine press only) followed by machine rear delt raises..

Arms consist of one set each of barbell curls, Scott curls and machine pulley curls for biceps and dips, close grip machine bench press and tricep pushdowns.

One set each to failure of wrist curls in both directions.


Rest 72 hours.

Back is one set each of the following:  Palms up pull-ups to failure with negatives and rest/pause followed by Smith machine bent over rows and finally palms up lat pulldowns.

Chest is one set each of pec dec followed by machine bench presses and finally Smith machine incline bench press.  I will do negatives on the machine bench press and rest pause on the Smith machine after I complete each respective set to positive failure.

That's it.  I rest 96 hours and begin again.  This is my second week of training this way and I can say that I am SORE for  a few days and eager to train when the time rolls around again.  It is very difficult being more of a volume trainer to do this but I really want to see if it helps me to at least maintain my physique at this point in my life and if possible, increase in muscular size and strength.

Any comments and/or insight are appreciated.  You men have me beat in strength and physique, believe me but as I said, it's all very inspirational reading your routines and accomplishments.

Thanks.


Wellcome  ;D look Forward to your Posts
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on May 04, 2014, 09:03:45 AM
NICE THUMB,SYMMETRICAL/AESTHETICALLY PLEASING..
(http://s10.postimg.org/a27fyx92x/coconut_oil_of_peace.jpg)

True, but it does appear that he has gained an unfair advantage over the bottle by pulling a "Heath".  His thumb is over the line here... ;D

Thanks for the welcome, gentlemen!  I appreciate it and the advices yet to come. 
Be well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 04, 2014, 09:14:44 AM
That may be true, but that damned bottle signed the 'O poster with 'Kai Greene, Mr. Olympia'  >:(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 05, 2014, 05:02:30 AM
weekend busy had work'6 day wk :-\'did a total body workout at home 'pump day.

sunday  daughters 1st communion went well was nervous for her 'she had reading in front of whole mass'food /wine/family/wife made a cake for her from scratch.

I could not fit my usual'punishing'leg workout in so at night after everyone settled in.i did legs in basemet what I could accomplish there.

I did giant sets x4 extension/lunge/stiff legged dlift db/rear curl standing /just repped nice pump.

second part was db front squats x2 and single leg db calf raises x4

I have a good total cable/ weight stacked  driven machine ...so its good thing to have  and dbells to 60"s need 65/ 70/75/80/85/90 add as I go when $$$ is there for it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 05, 2014, 09:50:36 AM
weekend busy had work'6 day wk :-\'did a total body workout at home 'pump day.

sunday  daughters 1st communion went well was nervous for her 'she had reading in front of whole mass'food /wine/family/wife made a cake for her from scratch.

I could not fit my usual'punishing'leg workout in so at night after everyone settled in.i did legs in basemet what I could accomplish there.

I did giant sets x4 extension/lunge/stiff legged dlift db/rear curl standing /just repped nice pump.

second part was db front squats x2 and single leg db calf raises x4

I have a good total cable/ weight stacked  driven machine ...so its good thing to have  and dbells to 60"s need 65/ 70/75/80/85/90 add as I go when $$$ is there for it.
keeps you ticking over Training at home...glad the Service went well ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 05, 2014, 10:35:57 AM
keeps you ticking over Training at home...glad the Service went well ;)
YEAH IT WORKS DONNY..JUST MORE BARBARIC LOL AT HOME LOW CEILING,LITTLE LIGHTING,ECT..NO MUSIC..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 06, 2014, 06:57:57 PM
chest

fdb press 60/70/80/85/85...12/10/8/8/5
inc press 135/185/185/185-155 drop 12/10/8/6-8
inc flyes 40/45/50..10/10/10
cable chest flye mid pec crossovers x3
dips x2x20

tris
close grip bench superset rope pushdowns x3
reverse pushdowns superset seated extension machine x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 06, 2014, 08:33:59 PM
YEAH IT WORKS DONNY..JUST MORE BARBARIC LOL AT HOME LOW CEILING,LITTLE LIGHTING,ECT..NO MUSIC..

Why not get a radio? No advice for the ceiling height. I used to work out in the basement of the house we lived in several decades ago. Could not do any overhead lifts unless I was seated.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 07, 2014, 01:22:56 AM
Run for Cardio and

BB bench press
Dips
Military press

hanging knee raises 3x max
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 07, 2014, 04:34:03 AM
Run for Cardio and

BB bench press
Dips
Military press

hanging knee raises 3x max

There is beauty in simplicity..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 07, 2014, 07:08:22 AM
There is beauty in simplicity..
yes...Trains all i Need to.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 07, 2014, 06:04:15 PM
Why not get a radio? No advice for the ceiling height. I used to work out in the basement of the house we lived in several decades ago. Could not do any overhead lifts unless I was seated.
i'm not complaining don'tmind...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on May 07, 2014, 06:40:23 PM
Why not get a radio? No advice for the ceiling height. I used to work out in the basement of the house we lived in several decades ago. Could not do any overhead lifts unless I was seated.

I have an internet radio in the garage when I train so I can listen to Jazz from Germany  or Australia as I lift.  I can also choose to train at work as they have a small gym with machines and some free weights, so in reality I do a little of both.  I will train tomorrow after resting 72 hours since Monday's workout and not having done these same bodyparts for a whole week.  Shoulders, arms and forearms. 

I cannot believe how sore I still am from Monday's session of 8 total working sets and 1 warm up set.   I don't recall being this sore when I tried Mentzer's workout in '78 or so.  The soreness seems to be a mixture of good and bad pain with perhaps more toward the "good" side of the equation.  I will have to pay close attention to how I feel so that I don't harm myself.

Has anyone else had experience with Mentzer's last written protocol?  I have no real complaints other than soreness and unless I do something stupid and hurt myself I am going to give this a genuine effort as I really want it to work for me.

A co-worker said I looked smaller today.  If that was my goal, I would be ecstatic.  :-[ ;D  Damn hummingbird metabolism.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 08, 2014, 06:10:01 AM
I have an internet radio in the garage when I train so I can listen to Jazz from Germany  or Australia as I lift.  I can also choose to train at work as they have a small gym with machines and some free weights, so in reality I do a little of both.  I will train tomorrow after resting 72 hours since Monday's workout and not having done these same bodyparts for a whole week.  Shoulders, arms and forearms. 

I cannot believe how sore I still am from Monday's session of 8 total working sets and 1 warm up set.   I don't recall being this sore when I tried Mentzer's workout in '78 or so.  The soreness seems to be a mixture of good and bad pain with perhaps more toward the "good" side of the equation.  I will have to pay close attention to how I feel so that I don't harm myself.

Has anyone else had experience with Mentzer's last written protocol?  I have no real complaints other than soreness and unless I do something stupid and hurt myself I am going to give this a genuine effort as I really want it to work for me.

A co-worker said I looked smaller today.  If that was my goal, I would be ecstatic.  :-[ ;D  Damn hummingbird metabolism.
I think you are on the right track.. i would give it a few months and see if there are any pains. I just Train again when i feel OK. can be after 3 or 4 days. i also think doing just pressing and Dips ...etc saves my Joints rather that lots of extensions. Not really into Heavy Duty myself but i know lots of People who's results were very fruitful with Heavy Duty..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 08, 2014, 11:05:53 AM
BACK
PULLUPS WIDE X2/CLOSE X2 12 REPS PER..
TBAR ROW 2.5 PLATES/3/3.5 12/10/10
LOW CABLE ROW WIDE BAR X3
HAMMER PULLDOWN UNDERHAND SINGLE ARM PULLDOWNS X3
FRONT STANDING STRETCH PULL TO WAIST PULLDOWNS X3

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3

BIS
CURLS PREMADE CURL BAR 'HI REP '60X15,70X15,80X15,DROP 80-6/70-6/80-6
SEATED CURL MACHINE X3
CABLE CURLS SINGLE ARM DONE TOGETHER X3

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 08, 2014, 01:25:43 PM
I have an internet radio in the garage when I train so I can listen to Jazz from Germany  or Australia as I lift.  I can also choose to train at work as they have a small gym with machines and some free weights, so in reality I do a little of both.  I will train tomorrow after resting 72 hours since Monday's workout and not having done these same bodyparts for a whole week.  Shoulders, arms and forearms. 

I cannot believe how sore I still am from Monday's session of 8 total working sets and 1 warm up set.   I don't recall being this sore when I tried Mentzer's workout in '78 or so.  The soreness seems to be a mixture of good and bad pain with perhaps more toward the "good" side of the equation.  I will have to pay close attention to how I feel so that I don't harm myself.

Has anyone else had experience with Mentzer's last written protocol?  I have no real complaints other than soreness and unless I do something stupid and hurt myself I am going to give this a genuine effort as I really want it to work for me.

A co-worker said I looked smaller today.  If that was my goal, I would be ecstatic.  :-[ ;D  Damn hummingbird metabolism.

Everyone responds differently to exercise and each of us responds differently at different times. Ideally, we hit it just right and the soreness is like a reward for the hard work that goes into building muscles. It doesn't take much to overdo a workout and end up with a little too much pain. We've all been there. Most often for me this happens after a long layoff even when I think I've adjusted the resistance, number of sets and reps to compensate. Oddly, I usually hurt more the second day after then the first. Because I only exercise each muscle group once a week, I give my body a lot of recovery time. I am convinced that the older we get, the longer it takes to recover. But, like I said, each of us is going to have a different result.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 08, 2014, 01:35:17 PM
For reasons I won't go into, I have not been getting to the gym much lately. My annual membership fee is due on the 15th. When I pay this, I am usually more inspired to actually take advantage of the gym. I don't like wasting money!

Fortunately, I am still in pretty good shape. I've actually dropped about 10 lbs. or so. Just the other day I hit Costco for some new shorts for summer because last year's shorts were looking like baggy saggers and I actually had to wear a belt to keep them from falling off. LOL! Currently, I weigh what I did about 25 years ago and only 5 lbs. more than I did when I was 18 years old. As for my diet secrets, I am eating what I always have just smaller portions. This morning we went out to breakfast. I had eggs Florentine with potatoes. I ate all of the eggs Florentine and about a third of the potatoes served. Why do restaurants always serve such oversized portions?

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 08, 2014, 06:10:19 PM
delts /calves/forarms ''home trained'

delts
side raises 15/20/30/30...12/12/12/12
db press 45/50/50...12/12/12
rear delt raise on incline face down20'sx12x3
superset front raise with curlbar and cable uprights x3
2 sets finish cable behind back side raises

traps
cable behind back rear shrug superset seated db shrug dbells to sidesx3..
front cable shrug x2

calves
single leg db calf raise x3
seated calf raise x3 improvised here 2x4 boards 2 on top each other enough to stretch and placed plates and a db on lap ...voila,,

forarms bunch of different wrist curls reverse and regular and reverse bar curl..

took pic pre pump today..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 09, 2014, 05:01:23 AM
nice Delts Steve .. yeah with calfes at home you have to do DB one legged calf raise to really overload your calfes. I can also do Standing Barbell calf raise with my olympic Bar but because i have no Power  rack and use squat stands Balance is the Problem. seated Barbell calf raises work great, a bit awkward but they do work. Have even seen a pic in a book i have of a Training Partner sitting on your legs doing seated calf raises(may as well do Donkey calf raises)..which also are good with a Dips Belt. My son sits on my back doing Donkeys at times.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 09, 2014, 05:10:32 AM
In the Gym i like this machine as we have only Equipment from this Company...
http://www.matrixfitness.com/product/view/g3-s77-calf-press
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 09, 2014, 06:51:29 AM
nice Delts Steve .. yeah with calfes at home you have to do DB one legged calf raise to really overload your calfes. I can also do Standing Barbell calf raise with my olympic Bar but because i have no Power  rack and use squat stands Balance is the Problem. seated Barbell calf raises work great, a bit awkward but they do work. Have even seen a pic in a book i have of a Training Partner sitting on your legs doing seated calf raises(may as well do Donkey calf raises)..which also are good with a Dips Belt. My son sits on my back doing Donkeys at times.
yeah I figured you knew the tricks lol...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 09, 2014, 07:04:29 AM
My wife has great calfes from Dancing and Zumba Training. I have Long calfes but not thick.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 09, 2014, 07:36:44 AM
My wife has great calfes from Dancing and Zumba Training. I have Long calfes but not thick.
I HAVE MED /HIGHISH BUT THERE WIDE AND SHARP SHAPED.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 09, 2014, 07:41:56 AM
with me itīs Genetic... i have soleus dominant calfes :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on May 09, 2014, 10:51:29 AM
Did some rest/pause training this morning until I experienced the "tingling elbow tendon".  Got in 4 sets of 1 rep each on close grip palms up pull downs followed by 3 sets of single rep on machine bench presses. On the fourth set my left elbow began to "tingle" so I stopped mid-rep.

Tried some dips, but 6 reps (bodyweight) done in slow style didn't feel good on the left elbow so I finished with 5 reps of slow curls with thick handled (2") DBs.

My elbow feels fine right now but I will rest and watch it.  I was feeling good but may have gotten too excited and tried too much weight.  It was a max rep each time (for me) and that fourth one was apparently too much.  I prefer to call it positive failure.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 09, 2014, 11:11:08 AM
Did some rest/pause training this morning until I experienced the "tingling elbow tendon".  Got in 4 sets of 1 rep each on close grip palms up pull downs followed by 3 sets of single rep on machine bench presses. On the fourth set my left elbow began to "tingle" so I stopped mid-rep.

Tried some dips, but 6 reps (bodyweight) done in slow style didn't feel good on the left elbow so I finished with 5 reps of slow curls with thick handled (2") DBs.

My elbow feels fine right now but I will rest and watch it.  I was feeling good but may have gotten too excited and tried too much weight.  It was a max rep each time (for me) and that fourth one was apparently too much.  I prefer to call it positive failure.  ;D
I HATE THAT TINGLE,,GOT IT ALWAYS FROM TOO HEAVY NOSE BREAKERS ,,THEY DID NOTHING FOR ME OTHER THAN EGO LIFTING,I USE THE MACHINE VERSION PAIN FREE..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 10, 2014, 02:12:36 AM
I HATE THAT TINGLE,,GOT IT ALWAYS FROM TOO HEAVY NOSE BREAKERS ,,THEY DID NOTHING FOR ME OTHER THAN EGO LIFTING,I USE THE MACHINE VERSION PAIN FREE..
I always liked doing "skullcrushers" hammer grip with DBs... i think itīs better for the elbow. Dips and pressing are OK at the Moment but i know deep down that if i did say Lying BB skullcrushers my tris would be sore the next Day. Nothing wrong with direct arm Training, infact a lot of 5x5 programmes include say tri extensions and BB curls.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 11, 2014, 06:23:30 AM
Today was .. my Hard Day

Squat
Deadlifts
Close Grip Chins

Workouts are getting short but i feel stronger. I felt light headed after the Deads so now i will just rest and eat well. itīs Mothers Day so we will have a good meal together and relax.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 11, 2014, 06:51:37 AM
legs

hack squats supeset lying leg sled press,,2/3/4/5.5 plates with 160/200/220/240
stair lunges flight up/down/up/down with extensions superset x4  :o


hams
sldl 135/185/235/255
lying legs curls140/150/160

calves
seated calf raise 3 set drop 10 reps per drop x3
standing calf raise x2 12 reps 200 on stack..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 11, 2014, 10:01:57 AM
I have painful spots everywhere, so I won't tough a weight (other than some forearm training) this week, just to give my body the rest it needs. I'm planning to do 4 HIIT cardio sessions and some stretching afterwards. Maybe I will take a sauna, not sure yet.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 11, 2014, 11:18:05 PM
tris and cardio:


lying db extensions   4 sets


close grips  4 sets


reverse grip cable extensions  4 sets


and some work on the stepmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 12, 2014, 06:48:01 AM
I have painful spots everywhere, so I won't tough a weight (other than some forearm training) this week, just to give my body the rest it needs. I'm planning to do 4 HIIT cardio sessions and some stretching afterwards. Maybe I will take a sauna, not sure yet.


sorry to hear..take it easy,i kmow that's easier said than done.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 12, 2014, 07:28:45 AM
tris and cardio:


lying db extensions   4 sets


close grips  4 sets


reverse grip cable extensions  4 sets


and some work on the stepmill
nice George... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 12, 2014, 08:18:52 AM
tris and cardio:


lying db extensions   4 sets


close grips  4 sets


reverse grip cable extensions  4 sets


and some work on the stepmill
GOOD TO SEE YA BACK..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 12, 2014, 08:34:09 AM
how are you doing steverino?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 12, 2014, 08:55:32 AM
how are you doing steverino?
GREAT BROTHA...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on May 12, 2014, 08:40:48 PM
Warmed up with 3 sets of DB laterals and then did my working set for my shoulders.  Next up, one set to failure on machine shoulder presses followed by rear delts on another machine.  Finally, I did 4 total reps in rest/pause fashion on the should press again.

One seg of barbell curls to failure using an Oly bar.   One set of Scott bench curls to failure using a straight bar (I don't much care for curling bars) and then instead of machine curls I did rest/pause for 4 reps on the Scott bench with a heavier weight with the same Olympic bar.  I really enjoyed those and they felt great!

One set of dips (damn elbow still smarts!).  Close grip machine bench for one set and then one set of 20 reps tricep pushdowns (felt better on my left elbow).  I truly do think of dips as the upper body squat and wish I could really have at 'em but I must be careful.

I will rest between 72 and 120 hours before lifting again.  Other than my elbow, I feel pretty good about what I am doing and really want to give it a go for at least a few months to see how I do on this program.  I know for a fact that my body fat is in the range of 20% or so and while that is fat for the greats of this site, it is actually in the normal  and acceptable range according to the nurses that take care of me.

I know that Andreas Munzer was ripped but he's also dead so I think I will just stay semi-fat, totally dumb and extremely satisfied for now.  ;D  You guys remain an inspiration to me and that is saying something about your hard work and dedication to your physiques and your overall health.  Well done.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 12, 2014, 08:59:11 PM
chest:

flat bench db press  4 sets

hammer strength wide grip press  4 sets

pec deck  4 sets


30 minutes on the treadmill.......no incline and 3.5 mph
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 13, 2014, 04:04:37 PM
leg work:


leg extensions   4 sets

leg presses    3 sets

squats   3 sets

unilateral leg curls   3 sets

lying leg curls  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 13, 2014, 04:38:15 PM
chest

fdb press 60/70/80/85/85-60 drop 5-6 reps...other sets 12/10/8/6
inc db press supersetted inc flyes been doing this alot lately  60/60/65...40/40/40 rep8-10 for each
hammer mid/lower press 2 /2.5/3 plates per 12/10/8
cable crossover flyes handles mid chest x3
dips x2 20/15

tris
supersetted rope overhead cables with reverse underhand pushdowns x3
pushdowns supdetted with db close to chest press 'like close grip but with dumbells x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 14, 2014, 06:40:49 AM
Used Dbs today...

DB bench press
DB shoulder press
Parallel Bar Dips

I also did some rev crunches on a slight Incline.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 14, 2014, 11:02:33 AM
back:


reverse grip pulldowns  3 sets

hammer one arm rows  3 sets

seated cable rows   3 sets

hyperextensions   3 sets

20 minutes stepmill    20 minutes treadmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on May 14, 2014, 12:27:08 PM
various shoulder raises as a warmup, than back= 10 sets of 16 reps longbar lat pulldowns 100 lb wt,than 10 sets parallell bar pulldowns 12-16 reps 100-125 lbs. 5 sets chinups bdwt by 15 reps. db rows w head supported 4 sets by 15 reps 45 lb dbs ,  parallel grip chins 2 sets 12 reps. than chest 10 sets benchpresses 6-30 reps w 100 to 210 lbs, floordips on bars 5 sets of 30 reps,6 sets of db high incline presses 5 sets of 20 w 45 lb dbs, than 5 sets cable crossovers. than various crunches and leg raises.... yup i do volume training anymore. :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 15, 2014, 01:27:22 AM
various shoulder raises as a warmup, than back= 10 sets of 16 reps longbar lat pulldowns 100 lb wt,than 10 sets parallell bar pulldowns 12-16 reps 100-125 lbs. 5 sets chinups bdwt by 15 reps. db rows w head supported 4 sets by 15 reps 45 lb dbs ,  parallel grip chins 2 sets 12 reps. than chest 10 sets benchpresses 6-30 reps w 100 to 210 lbs, floordips on bars 5 sets of 30 reps,6 sets of db high incline presses 5 sets of 20 w 45 lb dbs, than 5 sets cable crossovers. than various crunches and leg raises.... yup i do volume training anymore. :D
funky Bro.... :o ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 15, 2014, 01:47:15 AM
I still think, using Chest as an example.. the first 3-5 hard heavy sets produce the most growth and after that the more you do the Returns diminish..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 15, 2014, 06:31:42 AM
was under the weather for couple days stomach/sinus pains...STILL TRAINED LOL...

delts
side raises 20/30/30
reverse cable raise x3
bent over seated rear delt raise x3
underhanded curl bar fr raise x3
db 45's twist press'down turn hands face'face'then up turning db to finish'x3
upright cable x2
17 sets total usually 14 I was home so kept going...

bis
db curls 30/45/45
curl bar close bend over and hang bar elbows close in and bar betwwen knees 'modified scott curl minus the pad x3
hammer curls
2 sets curl bar wide 15 reps to finish x2
11 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 15, 2014, 01:13:52 PM
was under the weather for couple days stomach/sinus pains...STILL TRAINED LOL...

delts
side raises 20/30/30
reverse cable raise x3
bent over seated rear delt raise x3
underhanded curl bar fr raise x3
db 45's twist press'down turn hands face'face'then up turning db to finish'x3
upright cable x2
17 sets total usually 14 I was home so kept going...

bis
db curls 30/45/45
curl bar close bend over and hang bar elbows close in and bar betwwen knees 'modified scott curl minus the pad x3
hammer curls
2 sets curl bar wide 15 reps to finish x2
11 sets
Nothing will stop you getting your workout in Steve... ;D you are a consistant Trainer !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 15, 2014, 01:41:09 PM
Nothing will stop you getting your workout in Steve... ;D you are a consistant Trainer !
more retarded maybe...lol..I feel much better..today back/traps..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 16, 2014, 08:50:50 AM
chest and bis:


flat bench db presses   4 sets

hammer wide grip presses  4 sets

pec deck  4 sets

hammer curls   4 sets

machine curls  4 sets


20 minutes stepmill   20 minutes treadmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 16, 2014, 09:45:31 AM
chest and bis:


flat bench db presses   4 sets

hammer wide grip presses  4 sets

pec deck  4 sets

hammer curls   4 sets

machine curls  4 sets


20 minutes stepmill   20 minutes treadmill
Cardio Looks good now George. Get on a cross Trainer and try some Interval. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 16, 2014, 10:47:59 AM
Cardio Looks good now George. Get on a cross Trainer and try some Interval. ;)
that stepmill is a bitch.......cross trainer is good......but the stepmill is a whole other ballgame as we say in the states.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 16, 2014, 10:53:46 AM
that stepmill is a bitch.......cross trainer is good......but the stepmill is a whole other ballgame as we say in the states.
I always go by the most bodyweight moved and muscle Groups used..exactly what Walking,running ...better cross Trainer .. or as you do stepper does. I like the crosser because it really saves my knees. The stepper i have never liked much.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 16, 2014, 02:16:31 PM
back/traps usually do them delt day good change/abs/forearms/calves.

pullups 2x wide x12/2 x narrow grip x12
bent over rows 135/185/205/225
hammer strenght under hand pulldowns 2 plates per side x3x10
cable rows x3 180/200/200 10/10/10

traps
shrugs 235/275/275/285
reverse shrugs x3 x12-15

forarms
cable wrist curls reverse x3
wrist curls cable x4

abs 5 sets x25/30

calves
standing calf raise 3 toe positions 24 repsets x4
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 16, 2014, 05:46:14 PM
I had a doctor appointment today. My labs were good. My blood pressure was too high. I've shrunk. I currently measure 5'9". This is a 2.75" loss in height since I was my tallest at 18 years of age. It is no doubt caused by spinal compression. The doctor is setting me up to have an MRI of my spine because of the problems I continue to have with sciatica.

On a more positive note, I paid my annual gym membership dues today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2014, 12:02:55 AM
back/traps usually do them delt day good change/abs/forearms/calves.

pullups 2x wide x12/2 x narrow grip x12
bent over rows 135/185/205/225
hammer strenght under hand pulldowns 2 plates per side x3x10
cable rows x3 180/200/200 10/10/10

traps
shrugs 235/275/275/285
reverse shrugs x3 x12-15

forarms
cable wrist curls reverse x3
wrist curls cable x4

abs 5 sets x25/30

calves
standing calf raise 3 toe positions 24 repsets x4
do you really think foot Position is important Steve? i just use a fairly straight Forward foot Position. believe it or not last time i did Standing calves i just repped out with bodyweight and i was sore for a few days. not counting reps just max reps free Hand calve raises toes on a block. Normally i like the Matrix machine we have or Standing db calve raises. with weight i seem to lose the Feeling in my calves if you know what i mean. also i seem to like seated calve raises more than Standing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 17, 2014, 05:09:59 AM
I had a doctor appointment today. My labs were good. My blood pressure was too high. I've shrunk. I currently measure 5'9". This is a 2.75" loss in height since I was my tallest at 18 years of age. It is no doubt caused by spinal compression. The doctor is setting me up to have an MRI of my spine because of the problems I continue to have with sciatica.

On a more positive note, I paid my annual gym membership dues today.
The Gym can wait just get fit first. I think as we Age we all get a bit shorter Jay.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on May 17, 2014, 10:41:39 AM
Felt good today, so I trained.

Two sets of 4 reps per set done rest/pause style of close grip, palms up pulldowns.  Two sets of a pre-exhaustion set of 5 reps (that was failure for me) of pec dec immediately followed by 3 reps of rest/pause machine bench press.

Two sets of 4 total reps of two inch think barbell curls done in rest/pause.  One set of close grip machine bench press 4 reps total in rest/pause (elbow began to tingle so I skipped the second set of 4 reps).

That's it for today!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 17, 2014, 10:47:39 AM
do you really think foot Position is important Steve? i just use a fairly straight Forward foot Position. believe it or not last time i did Standing calves i just repped out with bodyweight and i was sore for a few days. not counting reps just max reps free Hand calve raises toes on a block. Normally i like the Matrix machine we have or Standing db calve raises. with weight i seem to lose the Feeling in my calves if you know what i mean. also i seem to like seated calve raises more than Standing.
i do standard straight position mostly,the heels inward kills the inner calf i feel,the toes in i agree does not do much for me,i just throw it in,i agree seated is much better.again as with most movements involving legs heavier does not mean better look/growth,if i go beyond 225 on say stiff legged deadlifts my lower back/rear end takes too much load off the hams,,same with standing calf raises i will do a heavier 8-12 rep day and do close to the stack,otherwise i do lighter weight 20 plus reps slow to burn that grows calves...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2014, 11:20:52 AM
The Gym can wait just get fit first. I think as we Age we all get a bit shorter Jay.

There is nothing wrong with my health that keeps me from going to the gym. The sciatica causes my right foot to be numb and tingly. I can still walk on it. Degenerative disk disease, which is what is causing the sciatica, is not something which can be cured, it is simply part of the aging process....and that sucks! The purpose of the MRI is to figure out which nerves are affected and whether steroid shots in the spine would help ease the sciatica discomfort. I've done physical therapy which didn't seem to make much difference. I can do the exercises I learned in physical therapy on my own at considerably less expense then seeing the physical therapist twice a week.

I will very slowly ease back into a gym routine, starting with just some cardio three or four times a week. My blood pressure was high and cardio should help lower it. I have been suffering from depression lately, cardio should help with this too. The good news from the doctor was that my cholesterol was much lower then a year ago. My total cholesterol was 159 which is in the good range (anything under 200 is good). Anyway, I must be doing something right, at least in terms of diet. My weight was down 6 lbs. from a year ago, which is good since I haven't been working out much and eating less. It's not like I am in danger of getting too skinny anytime soon. LOL!

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 17, 2014, 11:32:21 AM
There is nothing wrong with my health that keeps me from going to the gym. The sciatica causes my right foot to be numb and tingly. I can still walk on it. Degenerative disk disease, which is what is causing the sciatica, is not something which can be cured, it is simply part of the aging process....and that sucks! The purpose of the MRI is to figure out which nerves are affected and whether steroid shots in the spine would help ease the sciatica discomfort. I've done physical therapy which didn't seem to make much difference. I can do the exercises I learned in physical therapy on my own at considerably less expense then seeing the physical therapist twice a week.

I will very slowly ease back into a gym routine, starting with just some cardio three or four times a week. My blood pressure was high and cardio should help lower it. I have been suffering from depression lately, cardio should help with this too. The good news from the doctor was that my cholesterol was much lower then a year ago. My total cholesterol was 159 which is in the good range (anything under 200 is good). Anyway, I must be doing something right, at least in terms of diet. My weight was down 6 lbs. from a year ago, which is good since I haven't been working out much and eating less. It's not like I am in danger of getting too skinny anytime soon. LOL!


8) JAY,,U BEEN THROUGH A HECK OF YEAR,,UR STILL STANDING..CHILDISH ANTICS ASIDE AT TIME HERE AT GOSSIP BOARD,YOUR A GOOD MAN AND ASSET ON THIS 'MATURE'THREAD..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 18, 2014, 07:51:29 AM
super pump leg workout

trisets hack squats with lying leg sled and stiff legged dead lift...2/3/4/5 plates..160/200/220/240...134/185/225/245 sldlx4 reps 10 per movement..

group 2 walking lunges.and extensions and lying leg curls..50 lbs db..190/205/220/235 ext..140/150/155 leg curls

very intense pump,full


a bit bigger than last yr and close to summer condition ,did alot of various in between workout home all yr,i think it helped keeping things tight with diet ,sometimes i'm a bit looser and add carbs or more fats.want to tighten a bit more. lower chest area and abs a tad leaner ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 18, 2014, 09:19:07 AM
delts and cardio:

hammer shoulder press   3 sets

cable side laterals  3 sets

reverse pec deck   3 sets

hammer shrugs  3 sets

stepmill  80 floors
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 19, 2014, 03:40:46 AM
sorry to hear..take it easy,i kmow that's easier said than done.

Thanks NJ.
Nothing serious here, but I can't expect that my body acts like a machine with an on/off button. I had a good week with HIIT cardio, stretching and some forearm & abs work, every day, except Saturday. Esp my delts had benefit from this 'rest week'.
Will I hit the weights this evening? Hmm, not sure yet, the pains aren't gone completely and I'm not that 'hungry'. I try to go by feel.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 19, 2014, 07:09:38 AM
 so went for a run in the forest today as itīs great outside. Was well warmed up for my workout.

Deadlifts
Barbell Rows
Chinning the Bar
i did some seated calf raises for 5x 15-20 reps. i have got very lazy Training calves and Abs just really concentrating on the few moves i do. Having said that ..if i did a high volume workout now it would be extremely taxing to say the least. I have noticed that my shoulders feel better not doing Incline Flyes or incline BB press.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 19, 2014, 07:23:16 AM
so went for a run in the forest today as itīs great outside. Was well warmed up for my workout.

Deadlifts
Barbell Rows
Chinning the Bar
i did some seated calf raises for 5x 15-20 reps. i have got very lazy Training calves and Abs just really concentrating on the few moves i do. Having said that ..if i did a high volume workout now it would be extremely taxing to say the least. I have noticed that my shoulders feel better not doing Incline Flyes or incline BB press.

Efficient back workout, no unneeded overlap  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 19, 2014, 08:12:34 AM
so went for a run in the forest today as itīs great outside. Was well warmed up for my workout.

Deadlifts
Barbell Rows
Chinning the Bar
i did some seated calf raises for 5x 15-20 reps. i have got very lazy Training calves and Abs just really concentrating on the few moves i do. Having said that ..if i did a high volume workout now it would be extremely taxing to say the least. I have noticed that my shoulders feel better not doing Incline Flyes or incline BB press.
DIGGING THOSE STARZ... :o.. :D.. 8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 19, 2014, 08:19:25 AM
DIGGING THOSE STARZ... :o.. :D.. 8)

6 stars... Basile goes bananas
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 19, 2014, 08:31:27 AM
6 stars... Basile goes bananas
LIKE MOST APES..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 19, 2014, 05:38:51 PM
back:

reverse grip pulldowns  4 sets

magnum seated machine rows  3 sets

hammer pulldowns  3 sets

hyperextensions   3 sets

30 minutes treadmill

what do you folks have planned for Memorial Day?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 19, 2014, 07:30:50 PM
chest

fdb press 55/65/80/80/70
inc db superset with incline flye 60/60/60/,,40/40/40
hammer seated mid/lower press x3
cable crossover x3 mid pec
dips x2x20


tris
semi wide grip pushdowns x3
rope outs x4
close grip bench x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 20, 2014, 07:53:09 AM
chest

fdb press 55/65/80/80/70
inc db superset with incline flye 60/60/60/,,40/40/40
hammer seated mid/lower press x3
cable crossover x3 mid pec
dips x2x20


tris
semi wide grip pushdowns x3
rope outs x4
close grip bench x3

abs

what are you doing for Abs Steve? always remember Steve Reeves wrote about indirect Ab Training specialy with Tri pushdowns like you do.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 20, 2014, 08:30:12 AM
Quads,
Squat - deep, stop at the bottom, no lock out
Single leg extension - squeeze at the top
Leg adductor - again with a squeeze (no homo)
Standing quad stretch

Chest,
Incline DB press with bands, between a cable cross machine - squeeze at the top
Decline DB press - stop at the bottom, no lock out
Flat overhead DB flye, credits to my trainer for teaching this version
Flat DB stretch
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 20, 2014, 09:33:24 AM
what are you doing for Abs Steve? always remember Steve Reeves wrote about indirect Ab Training specialy with Tri pushdowns like you do.
YEAH I NEVER GO INTO DETAIL ..MONDAY I DO HANGING LEG RAISES 3 SETS 15-20 AND AB MACHINE WEIGHTED 100L ON STACK AND TORSO CRUNCHES DOWN'BODY IS IN SEATED POSITION 3 sets x20

back day I do lying crunch machine 6 sets 30 no weight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 21, 2014, 02:32:13 AM
YEAH I NEVER GO INTO DETAIL ..MONDAY I DO HANGING LEG RAISES 3 SETS 15-20 AND AB MACHINE WEIGHTED 100L ON STACK AND TORSO CRUNCHES DOWN'BODY IS IN SEATED POSITION 3 sets x20

back day I do lying crunch machine 6 sets 30 no weight.
nice workout Steve. The ab machines we have in the Gym are not bad but i still like doing crunches on the floor with hanging knee raises. one exercise i have not done for a Long time is seated twists with a broom stick or unweighted bar (Standard bar about 10kg). Did These often and although it is a myth that it will whittle down your waist, my lower back felt limber and fluid. although at the Moment i just let deadlifts firm it all up. Today i will do..

Dips
BB bench press
Military press
lying skull crushers with Barbell(like it better than an ez Bar)
Cardio will be on the Bike and then rowing machine.. i think i will after your post Steve do some machine crunches.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 21, 2014, 02:41:39 AM
This is the Equipment we use...
http://th.matrixfitness.com/category/strength/aura-single-station/page:0
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 21, 2014, 05:04:00 AM
This is the Equipment we use...
http://th.matrixfitness.com/category/strength/aura-single-station/page:0

So SportsArt became Matrix? I've never tried their latest line, but their line from 10 years ago is the worst crap I've tried, esp their lat pull down, which was way too low and far from smooth.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 21, 2014, 05:16:34 AM
So SportsArt became Matrix? I've never tried their latest line, but their line from 10 years ago is the worst crap I've tried, esp their lat pull down, which was way too low and far from smooth.
Itīs not the Best Equipment i agree. Still it gets the Job done.  I use mainly free weight exercises anyway even when i do a split Routine(volume). The gyms in the US are much better and Bigger. In Hannover 38km away there are big Gyms.. having said that the last Gym i worked in was a smallish private Gym but had great Hammer strength machines. Where i work now itīs not a "hardcore" Gym. Most People i Train are People just wanting to get into shape,,although a great Goal. We do have some guys doing Bodybuilding and i go over and Exchange ideas and workout sometimes with them. I have noticed in the last while that a lot of Young guys are going back to Basic routines..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 21, 2014, 05:40:53 AM
Itīs not the Best Equipment i agree. Still it gets the Job done.  I use mainly free weight exercises anyway even when i do a split Routine(volume). The gyms in the US are much better and Bigger. In Hannover 38km away there are big Gyms.. having said that the last Gym i worked in was a smallish private Gym but had great Hammer strength machines. Where i work now itīs not a "hardcore" Gym. Most People i Train are People just wanting to get into shape,,although a great Goal. We do have some guys doing Bodybuilding and i go over and Exchange ideas and workout sometimes with them. I have noticed in the last while that a lot of Young guys are going back to Basic routines..

Another advantage of free weights, they never let you down  ;)
Sure, they have amazing gyms in the US, but at the end of the day only one thing matters: the right mindset to archive your goal. I train in a pretty small, but well equipped gym with 20 y/o Technogym stuff. The only downside are the dumbbells, they go up to 50 kg.
My focus is much better in small places, too bad they allow good looking women ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 21, 2014, 05:46:21 AM
Another advantage of free weights, they never let you down  ;)
Sure, they have amazing gyms in the US, but at the end of the day only one thing matters: the right mindset to archive your goal. I train in a pretty small, but well equipped gym with 20 y/o Technogym stuff. The only downside are the dumbbells, they go up to 50 kg.
My focus is much better in small places, too bad they allow good looking women ;D
very true.  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 21, 2014, 06:08:11 AM
delts and cardio:


hammer presses   4 sets

side laterals (single arm) 4 sets

reverse pec deck  4 sets

hammer shrugs  3 sets

stepmill  80 floors

Wishing everyone a safe and happy Memorial Day......Thanks to all our soldiers!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 21, 2014, 06:11:01 AM
delts and cardio:


hammer presses   4 sets

side laterals (single arm) 4 sets

reverse pec deck  4 sets

hammer shrugs  3 sets

stepmill  80 floors

Wishing everyone a safe and happy Memorial Day......Thanks to all our soldiers!!!
8)..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 21, 2014, 06:16:29 AM
delts and cardio:


hammer presses   4 sets

side laterals (single arm) 4 sets

reverse pec deck  4 sets

hammer shrugs  3 sets

stepmill  80 floors

Wishing everyone a safe and happy Memorial Day......Thanks to all our soldiers!!!
Bless them .. let us never Forget them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 22, 2014, 03:48:26 AM
nice Day today and i am not working so i think i will go for a bike ride. If the weather stays like this i will go Swimming at the local outdoor pool..
Temp today is .. 28 Degrees
                         Humidity 53%
                          wind  4 km/h

nothing to what you have in some parts of the US but for me warm enough.. ;D (  donīt Forget iīm a Highlander)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 22, 2014, 03:58:37 AM
nice Day today and i am not working so i think i will go for a bike ride. If the weather stays like this i will go Swimming at the local outdoor pool..
Temp today is .. 28 Degrees
                         Humidity 53%
                          wind  4 km/h

nothing to what you have in some parts of the US but for me warm enough.. ;D (  donīt Forget iīm a Highlander)

A bike or bicycle? Make sure you pound your pecs for the ladies in that swimming pool, enjoy!

It's 22 here with 54% humidity, no wonder, we're 'neighbors'.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 22, 2014, 04:10:02 AM
A bike or bicycle? Make sure you pound your pecs for the ladies in that swimming pool, enjoy!

It's 22 here with 54% humidity, no wonder, we're 'neighbors'.
your in Holland aren't you ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 22, 2014, 04:19:26 AM
your in Holland aren't you ?

Yes!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 22, 2014, 06:10:43 AM
back and bi's and abs...home training

behind neck pulldowns x4
small bar seated cable pully row x4
rope stretch pull to waist pulldowns x3
db rows done together x3
tried this one for upper back improvised 'cable and I sat on floor stretched and pulled to upperback and elbows extended

BI'S
inc dbell curls x3
hammer across body x2
hammers normal straight up x2
curl bar curls x4

abs
weighted lol 8 lbs in foot lying on bench leg raises x3
floor crunches feet propped on bench old school x3 25/30 reps
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 22, 2014, 11:19:41 AM
back and bi's and abs...home training

behind neck pulldowns x4
small bar seated cable pully row x4
rope stretch pull to waist pulldowns x3
db rows done together x3
tried this one for upper back improvised 'cable and I sat on floor stretched and pulled to upperback and elbows extended

BI'S
inc dbell curls x3
hammer across body x2
hammers normal straight up x2
curl bar curls x4

abs
weighted lol 8 lbs in foot lying on bench leg raises x3
floor crunches feet propped on bench old school x3 25/30 reps
nice Steve. I just went for a bike ride today ..i mean a bicycle ;D Itīs cooler now much better for a Lizard like me... ;) i just like cooler weather. Donīt know how you handle the heat you have at times Steve.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 22, 2014, 12:12:42 PM
CHEST:

FLAT BENCH DB PRESSES   3 SETS

HAMMER BENCH PRESSES  3 SETS

HAMMER WIDE GRIP PRESSES  3 SETS

PEC DECK  3 SETS


STEPMILL  80 FLOORS

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 22, 2014, 01:27:28 PM
nice Steve. I just went for a bike ride today ..i mean a bicycle ;D Itīs cooler now much better for a Lizard like me... ;) i just like cooler weather. Donīt know how you handle the heat you have at times Steve.
DIDN'T SAY I LOVE IT,BUT IF IM ON PATIO WITH NICE SANGRIA ,SHIRTOFF,SUN THEN LIFE IS OK..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 22, 2014, 01:31:24 PM
nice Day today and i am not working so i think i will go for a bike ride. If the weather stays like this i will go Swimming at the local outdoor pool..
Temp today is .. 28 Degrees
                         Humidity 53%
                          wind  4 km/h

nothing to what you have in some parts of the US but for me warm enough.. ;D (  donīt Forget iīm a Highlander)

Nice weather. It is currently 75 degrees Fahrenheit here or about 24 degrees Celsius. The sun is shining and the yard (if I may say so myself) is looking spectacular this spring. I just watered the plants in the back yard and sprinkled the dogs a little too.

My little sister fell yesterday, hitting her face on a curb as she stepped off the bus. She ended up in emergency. Fortunately, she broke no bones nor had a concussion. Her right eye is swollen shut and she has a knot on her forehead the size of a baseball. In general, she looks like someone beat her up. She is staying with us for a few days while she recovers. She has ongoing problems with balance, so she falls frequently. This fall was worse than most. I worry because she lives in a second story apartment with a cement staircase. She's fallen on those stairs a couple of times already. Clearly, she needs to get into a main floor unit.

Enjoy your bicycle ride. I need to haul mine out, tune it up and get on it. I suppose I could take in down the hill and ride on level ground to start with. My legs are probably not up to the task of getting me up the hill....not to mention my wind capacity or lack thereof.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 22, 2014, 03:36:51 PM
Tuesday I ran 5.1 miles. Wednesday 3.4 miles. Today I did a whole body routine.

Power clean and a jerk over head on the last rep 3 x 3 then 1 x 1 (power)

Squats 2 x 8 then 1 x 1(leg)
Lunges 1 x 8 (leg)
standing leg curls 2 x 12 (leg)

Dumbbell flat press 2 x 8 (pec)

Pull ups 2 x max (lat)
Low cable seated rows with a V handle 2 x 12 (lat)

Military press 2 x 8 (weight lifted off the floor) (delt)
dumbbell laterals 2 x 10  (delt)

barbell curl 2 x 10 (bicep)
weighted dips 2 x 10 (tricep and chest)  

hanging leg raises 2 x max (ab)
machine seated crunches 2 x 30 (ab)

standing calf 2 x 15 (threw in one set of tibalis work with this)(calf)

weighted back extensions 2 x 15 (lower back)

neck work and captain of crush grippers

Tried to use heavy weights but running is taking a toll. No warm up sets are listed. Work out took me 1:45 to complete. Using what is for me heavy weights slows me down. If I was using moderate weights I guess I could breeze through this.  I'm also workout at home so everything is plate loaded. I feel I'm leaning out from the running. Tomorrow is a planed 5K run with heavy bag work at the end.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 22, 2014, 07:30:25 PM
delts/calves/ forearms

front press 135/155/165/165/superset side raises 20/25/30/30

behind back cable raise with underhand curl bar front raise x3

cable uprights with reverse peck deck rear delt x3

shrugs
225/275/295

reverse shrugs x3

calves 5 sets standing calf raise 160/180/200/220/220

forarms
reverse wrist curls x3 single arn cable for inner
wrist curl x3 for top forearm
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 23, 2014, 05:44:08 AM
Tuesday I ran 5.1 miles. Wednesday 3.4 miles. Today I did a whole body routine.

Power clean and a jerk over head on the last rep 3 x 3 then 1 x 1 (power)

Squats 2 x 8 then 1 x 1(leg)
Lunges 1 x 8 (leg)
standing leg curls 2 x 12 (leg)

Dumbbell flat press 2 x 8 (pec)

Pull ups 2 x max (lat)
Low cable seated rows with a V handle 2 x 12 (lat)

Military press 2 x 8 (weight lifted off the floor) (delt)
dumbbell laterals 2 x 10  (delt)

barbell curl 2 x 10 (bicep)
weighted dips 2 x 10 (tricep and chest)   

hanging leg raises 2 x max (ab)
machine seated crunches 2 x 30 (ab)

standing calf 2 x 15 (threw in one set of tibalis work with this)(calf)

weighted back extensions 2 x 15 (lower back)

neck work and captain of crush grippers

Tried to use heavy weights but running is taking a toll. No warm up sets are listed. Work out took me 1:45 to complete. Using what is for me heavy weights slows me down. If I was using moderate weights I guess I could breeze through this.  I also workout at home so everything is plate loaded. I feel I'm leaning out from the running. Tomorrow is a planed 5K run with heavy bag work at the end.
I like cardio too but i think running 2-3 times a week is plenty with a fairly Long full Body workout. I lose weight fast with a full Body workout. looks good !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 23, 2014, 05:48:12 AM
talking of running i will go later in the Woods. Itīs cooler today  being .. 17 degrees, showers, humidity 66% and winds of 11km/h.  Perfect for running.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 23, 2014, 05:34:33 PM
I'm doing all this running because my adult children, nieces and nephews are really into road running from 5K's to Marathons. It's a fun family outing to get together for these events. I'm a slug in my old age but I still want to do well for my age group. Normally all I do with lifting is 1 to 3 miles two to three times a week. Now with upcoming summer races I'm upping the miles. I'm leaning out pretty well but losing strength. I'm enjoying how I feel with all this endurance work both mentally and physically.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 23, 2014, 05:35:55 PM
Nice weather. It is currently 75 degrees Fahrenheit here or about 24 degrees Celsius. The sun is shining and the yard (if I may say so myself) is looking spectacular this spring. I just watered the plants in the back yard and sprinkled the dogs a little too.

My little sister fell yesterday, hitting her face on a curb as she stepped off the bus. She ended up in emergency. Fortunately, she broke no bones nor had a concussion. Her right eye is swollen shut and she has a knot on her forehead the size of a baseball. In general, she looks like someone beat her up. She is staying with us for a few days while she recovers. She has ongoing problems with balance, so she falls frequently. This fall was worse than most. I worry because she lives in a second story apartment with a cement staircase. She's fallen on those stairs a couple of times already. Clearly, she needs to get into a main floor unit.

Enjoy your bicycle ride. I need to haul mine out, tune it up and get on it. I suppose I could take in down the hill and ride on level ground to start with. My legs are probably not up to the task of getting me up the hill....not to mention my wind capacity or lack thereof.

Hope your sister gets well quickly.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 23, 2014, 10:20:12 PM
leg work:

leg extensions  4 sets

leg presses  3 sets

squats  3 sets

unilateral leg curls  3 sets

lying leg curls 3 sets

cybex rotary calf machine  4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 24, 2014, 05:02:19 AM
Hope your sister gets well quickly.

X2, and I hope she's able to handle her disbalance mentally.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 24, 2014, 05:18:36 AM
Just got back from another gym, where I had a back/delts training under guidance of my trainer, or should I say 'butcher'?  ;)

Back:
Rear pull downs, supersetted with standing/hanging cable rows (first time, pretty hard compared with the seated version).
Bent over bb rows with a pronated grip.
Cable pull overs.
T-bar rows.
Pronated machine rows.

Delts:
Seated db press with a twist.
Standing db lateral raises, supersetted with palms up db front raises.
Seated db press, elbows tucked in.
Bent over db rear raises.

Next time I bring a second shirt and a belt, I'm toasted but I feel good :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 24, 2014, 09:56:02 AM
Just got back from another gym, where I had a back/delts training under guidance of my trainer, or should I say 'butcher'?  ;)

Back:
Rear pull downs, supersetted with standing/hanging cable rows (first time, pretty hard compared with the seated version).
Bent over bb rows with a pronated grip.
Cable pull overs.
T-bar rows.
Pronated machine rows.

Delts:
Seated db press with a twist.
Standing db lateral raises, supersetted with palms up db front raises.
Seated db press, elbows tucked in.
Bent over db rear raises.

Next time I bring a second shirt and a belt, I'm toasted but I feel good :)
pretty much spot on back/delt routines i use weekly..good stuff,i do palms up front reaise with premade curl bar as well..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 24, 2014, 10:06:19 AM
got to admit i donīt really do front raises often or with Palms up. Normally i did them with a bar... good exercise though...


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 24, 2014, 06:05:03 PM
leg day'heavy

started extensions sets 12-15 175/205/220/235/250
squats closestance 225/275/315/365..12/10/10/10
lying sled press 200/220/240
lunges 45 lb plate per hand upflight steps leadleg 2 steps up then down then backup ,,2x around

hams
sldl dbells..60/70/80/85
lying leg curls140/150/150

calves
leg press toe press x4 set 12-15
seated calf raise x3

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 25, 2014, 01:36:21 AM
Today i will do..

Power cleans
BB rows
Close grip chins
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 25, 2014, 07:11:04 AM
Today i will do..

Power cleans
BB rows
Close grip chins

basic power  :D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 25, 2014, 07:48:08 AM
basic power  :D...
RAW Power... 8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 25, 2014, 07:51:31 AM
RAW Power... 8)
that too  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 26, 2014, 07:00:12 PM
back:

reverse grip cable pulldowns  3 sets

hammer one arm rows  3 sets

seated cable rows  3 sets

hyperextensions   3 sets

stepmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 26, 2014, 07:12:20 PM
hope everyone had a pleasant Memorial Day weekend!!!!



I got out on the boat and enjoyed some beer, steak, ice cream, Mexican food and tons of rest!!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 26, 2014, 07:18:02 PM
chest
fdb warmup 50/60..70/80/85/55.10/8/7/15
inc db 60/65/70 10/8/8
hammer presslower/mid x3 2plates /2.5/3
cable crossers hi x2x15
low x2 x12/15/
dips x2 x20

tris
close grip superset with rope pushdownsx3
extension machine superset reverse pushdown x3
single arm pulldowns x2

abs
hanging leg raises x3 x15
seated crunch machine 110 0n stack 15-20 x3

for holiday
filled up kids pool they can run and splash in it and fit couple friends in
sat out got some color
grilled mango pineapple chicken/corn/made cold salad with mozzarella/tomatoe/cucumbers/mango/calamatagreek olives topped with balsamic italian herb dressing..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 27, 2014, 01:27:28 AM
sounds like Steve and George had a great time and good Food ! ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 27, 2014, 09:22:01 AM
sounds like Steve and George had a great time and good Food ! ;D
yeah...little one is sick tho he has bad chest cold,on albuterol and predisone through a steam machine,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 27, 2014, 09:25:13 AM
yeah...little one is sick tho he has bad chest cold,on albuterol and predisone through a steam machine,
sorry Steve hope your son is better
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 27, 2014, 09:32:16 AM
sorry Steve hope your son is better
PM SENT THANKS BRO..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 27, 2014, 09:40:35 AM
PM SENT THANKS BRO..
you are a Great Father Steve. I like your integrity.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 27, 2014, 09:43:45 AM
you are a Great Father Steve. I like your integrity.
8)...I have my moments..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 27, 2014, 09:47:49 AM
8)...I have my moments..
Steve you are a Good Man. Steve you got Skype?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 27, 2014, 09:54:24 AM
Steve you are a Good Man. Steve you got Skype?
no Skype...maybe wife does..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 27, 2014, 10:00:41 AM
no Skype...maybe wife does..
I would love to come over to the US meet you and Jay.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 27, 2014, 10:50:27 AM
I would love to come over to the US meet you and Jay.
8)..WOULD BE COOL.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 27, 2014, 11:30:02 AM
delts:

up and down the rack db presses  3 sets


single arm side laterals  3 sets


reverse pec deck  3 sets


hammer shrugs  3 sets


treadmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 27, 2014, 08:05:29 PM
Went off my whole body routine and doing a split again. I don't know how they call training the whole body in one day a beginner routine. It's the hardest routine you can do.  Today I did chest and arms. No warm ups listed.

Bench press 2 x 6
Incline bar press 2 x 6
Flat dumbbell flies 2 x 10
Push ups 2 x max

Barbell curl 2 x 10
Alternate dumbbell curl 2 x 8
Single D handle bicep cable curl 2 x 12

Conventional tricep push downs 2 x 10
Lying tricep extensions with an ez curl bar 2 x 8 (elbows really hurt with these)
Single arm reverse D handle extensions 2 x 12

Barbell forearm wrist curl 2 x 20
Reverse wrist extension 2 x 15

Ab wheel 2 x max
crunches with plate behind head and legs on a bench 1 x40
Ab bicycle type crunches 1 x 50
Machine crunches 2 x 35

Ivanko gripper 2 x 20


I rested about an hour after this then went for 5K run. It was 88 degrees out and I was really shot after the run. Tomorrow legs. If I am really ambitious I might try to ride outside on a bicycle after for a leg burn and cardio.







Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 28, 2014, 02:19:27 AM
Ivanko gripper 2 x 20

A great piece of equipment, I should use it more often.

(http://s16.postimg.org/owatamysl/ivankogripper.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2014, 09:13:35 AM
Well tomorrow I'm 48...... 8) like a good scotch ...every year better !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 28, 2014, 09:16:09 AM
Well tomorrow I'm 48...... 8) like a good scotch ...every year better !
here's to you Donny!!! Enjoy your day!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2014, 09:29:04 AM
I will George.... ;D thanks
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 28, 2014, 09:46:29 AM
Well tomorrow I'm 48...... 8) like a good scotch ...every year better !

Sounds like you're looking forward to it, have a great day man!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2014, 09:57:05 AM
will be a fairly quite Day with my Family.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 28, 2014, 09:57:19 AM
 8)..SHOULD BE GOOD DAY...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2014, 10:09:12 AM
8)..SHOULD BE GOOD DAY...
Itīs also Fathers Day  in Germany Tomorrow... so a Holiday.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2014, 10:14:34 AM
traditionally a Day where Fathers meet up and get Drunk. you see Groups of men cycling around with rucksacks full of Beer. The Police tend to turn a blind eye unless the Person is really drunk... ;D I have never botherd with it myself, itīs a German Thing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 28, 2014, 10:19:44 AM
traditionally a Day where Fathers meet up and get Drunk. you see Groups of men cycling around with rucksacks full of Beer. The Police tend to turn a blind eye unless the Person is really drunk... ;D I have never botherd with it myself, itīs a German Thing.
german thing...well with u being a scottsman I would hope ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2014, 10:30:13 AM
AYE..... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 28, 2014, 10:56:14 AM
Happy birthday Donny!

Today I did legs. No warm up sets listed.

Leg Press 2 x 12
Dumbbell squats 2 x 12
leg extensions 2 x 20
Seated leg curls 2 x 15
Standing leg curls 2 x 10

Dumbbell side bends 1 x 15
Leg raises 2 x 20
Hip ups 2 x 20
Machine crunches 2 x 35

Leg press calf raises 2 x 20
Standing calf raises 2 x 15
Seated calf rasises 2 x 15

Neck work

Notes: With the leg press I leave the back board low and try to really bend my legs. Seems most leave  the back board high and do shallow leg presses using the weight of a car. I get more out of it by using less weight but really going deep.  Dumbbell squats is one of the best exercises I have ever done. I use wrist straps. I stay upright and go so deep the dumbbells come within an inch of the floor. It's a difficult exercise if you don't deadlift the weight with bad form but truly squat. I know most say don't do side bends with a dumbbell but I'm looking for functional strength. I never noticed any bad development. Hip ups is a form of a reverse crunch. I lie on my back and have my feet facing the sky. I push my hips up toward the sky. It really gets the lower abs.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on May 28, 2014, 06:59:52 PM
Well tomorrow I'm 48...... 8) like a good scotch ...every year better !

Herzlichen Glückwunsch zum Geburtstag! 

I'm second or third (so old now I forgot!) generation and was not taught German (not so cool to be a Kraut in Amurica during WWII so none of us spoke it even long after the war), so I had to copy that one down of the interwebs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 28, 2014, 08:04:49 PM
back superset routine

hammer pulldowns 'side grip' with low cable rows x3

bent over rows underhand grip with rope stretch standing pulls to waist x3 got up to 225 on rows

single arm dbell rows 90's with wide grip pullups still managed 10 pullups each set all x3

weighted hypers x3x12

bi's
cable curls x3
seated curl machine x3
cable single arm curls done together curl and angle arms out x3

abs


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 29, 2014, 05:32:12 AM
H
A
P
P
Y
BIRTHDAY
              DONNY...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 29, 2014, 06:43:44 AM
H
A
P
P
Y
BIRTHDAY
              DONNY...

X2, and keep lifting & bouncing

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Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on May 29, 2014, 07:32:23 AM
various shoulder raises as a warmup, than back= 10 sets of 16 reps longbar lat pulldowns 100 lb wt,than 10 sets parallell bar pulldowns 12-16 reps 100-125 lbs. 5 sets chinups bdwt by 15 reps. db rows w head supported 4 sets by 15 reps 45 lb dbs ,  parallel grip chins 2 sets 12 reps. than chest 10 sets benchpresses 6-30 reps w 100 to 210 lbs, floordips on bars 5 sets of 30 reps,6 sets of db high incline presses 5 sets of 20 w 45 lb dbs, than 5 sets cable crossovers. than various crunches and leg raises.... yup i do volume training anymore. :D
same w/o only added 2 more sets of pulldowns and 2 sets of chins, and finished with 235 by 5 in the bp. hey i'm 62 years old what do you expect. ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 29, 2014, 08:39:09 AM
Thanks guys having a quite  day today.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 29, 2014, 10:47:19 AM
Thanks guys having a quite  day today.  ;D

NICE CIGAR..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on May 29, 2014, 10:48:01 AM
Well tomorrow I'm 48...... 8) like a good scotch ...every year better !
happy birthday donny.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 29, 2014, 11:48:25 AM
Thanks guys having a quite  day today.  ;D


Y'all even lift? Cigar looks Monica Lewinsky approved.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 29, 2014, 11:49:09 AM
arms and cardio:


lying db extensions   3 sets

close grips   3 sets

reverse grip cable extensions 3 sets


concentration curls   4 sets

standing ez bar curls  4 sets

treadmill 30 minutes
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 29, 2014, 11:50:41 AM
Today is a day off from lifting. I ran 5.1 miles on the board walk looking at the ocean.  So many women running today.

 I notice a new trend on the boardwalk. The women after the run are doing body weight exercises. One was doing leg raises another push ups. I even saw one doing repeated jumps onto a bench.

I will have a drink to celebrate Donny's birthday today. Damn booze. I would be ripped if it wasn't for booze. Tomorrow is back and delts.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 29, 2014, 04:34:18 PM
Happy Birthday Donny! Hope you've had a great day. Sorry to come to the party so late, it's been a busy day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 29, 2014, 04:35:21 PM
Thanks guys having a quite  day today.  ;D


Where'd you get that photo of me?  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 29, 2014, 11:31:27 PM
Where'd you get that photo of me?  ;D
ha ha ... i know you like a wee dram now and again Jay
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 30, 2014, 06:28:28 PM
Did back and delts.

Pull ups 2 x max
Low v handle seated cable rows 2 x 12
Single dumbbell rows 2 x 10
Reverse grip pull downs 2 x 10

Military press 2 x 8
Dumbbell laterals 2 x 10
Single arm pulley laterals 1 x 10
Rear delt laterals 2 x 10

Dead lifts 2 x 4 then 1 x 1
Barbell shrugs 2 x 10
Weighted back extensions 2 x 15

Floor crunches 1 x 50 (used a 10lbs plate behind my head.)

Waited about 4 hours then ran for two miles. It was all I could do cardio wise due to the exhaustion from lifting. Tomorrow no weights hopefully I can go for a long and fast run. 

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 30, 2014, 09:25:18 PM
chest and bis:


hammer wide grip presses   3 sets

flat bench db presses  2 sets

bodymasters machine incline presses  3 sets

pec deck   4 sets

concentration curls   4 sets

flat head machine curls  3 sets

treadmill 30 minutes
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2014, 04:09:27 AM
some great workouts .. I will tonight do a full Body workout just power moves.

bench press
Military press
BB Rows
Squats
BB curls

cardio cross Trainer.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: WillGrant on May 31, 2014, 04:28:46 AM
Happy Belated Birthday Donny
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2014, 04:30:08 AM
Happy Belated Birthday Donny
Thanks man.. appreciate it.  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 31, 2014, 06:15:31 AM
catching up here,,

delts

front press  135/155/165
side laterals drop 30/25/20 x3
rear lateral peck deck x3
upright row curl bar x3
behind back cable side raise x2

shrugs x4 on hammer chest press lying version great for shrugs sux for chest lol..
2 plates x20
3x15
4x15
4.5 x15

foreams
cable wrist curls on knee x3
standing wrist curl single handle x3

calves
standing calf raise machine x4 160-240lbs sets of 15-12
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2014, 06:21:00 AM
catching up here,,

delts

front press  135/155/165
side laterals drop 30/25/20 x3
rear lateral peck deck x3
upright row curl bar x3
behind back cable side raise x2

shrugs x4 on hammer chest press lying version great for shrugs sux for chest lol..
2 plates x20
3x15
4x15
4.5 x15

foreams
cable wrist curls on knee x3
standing wrist curl single handle x3

calves
standing calf raise machine x4 160-240lbs sets of 15-12
Cannon ball Delts workout Steve.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 31, 2014, 08:29:15 AM
Cannon ball Delts workout Steve.
THANKS D...READ YOUR PM'S ,,I'M FINE  ;))I'LL STICK..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2014, 08:32:01 AM
THANKS D...READ YOUR PM'S ,,I'M FINE  ;)I'LL STICK..
thanks Steve. You are a Top man.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on May 31, 2014, 04:03:42 PM
will train a little bit of everything tonight.......

incline smith machine  3 sets

laterals   3 sets

machine pulldowns  3 sets

seated calf raises  3 sets

dip machine  3 sets

concentration curls 3 sets

kneeling rope extensions (Larry Scott style)  3 sets

and some treadmill for 30 minutes
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 01, 2014, 07:28:32 PM
Yesterday I ran 3.2 miles. Today I did chest and arms. I changed things up from last workout. I have to stop drinking beer. It's been 4 days in a row.

Dumbbell flat bench  2 x 8
Incline dumbbell bench 2 x 8
flat flies 2 x 10
Push ups 2 x max

ez curl bar curls 2 x 10
pulley curls using a straight bar  2 x 10
single arm scott curls 2 x 10

weighted dips 2 x 6
rope push downs 2 x 12
single dumbbell two hand extensions 2 x 10

forearm wrist curls 2 x 20
reverse extensions 2 x 15

ab wheel 2 x max
weighted crunch with legs on a bench 1 x 50
bicycle crunches 1 x 55
machine crunches 2 x 25

Ivanko gripper 2 x 20

I'm doing a lot of cardio and my lifting has been going great. I made a lot of improvement in two weeks but the beer consumption is killing my leaning out. Going to go on the wagon for a few days.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 01, 2014, 07:30:38 PM
leg day brutal shock sets

hacks with lying sled press and stiff legged dlifts  x4 2/3/4/5 plates and sled 160/180/200/220..sldl 135/185/235/235

lunges and extensions and lying leg curls  ...80 lb bar  back,extensions 190/225/240..curls 140/145/155

calves
5 sets standing calf raise on hack squat
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 02, 2014, 01:30:57 AM
Yesterday I ran 3.2 miles. Today I did chest and arms. I changed things up from last workout. I have to stop drinking beer. It's been 4 days in a row.

Dumbbell flat bench  2 x 8
Incline dumbbell bench 2 x 8
flat flies 2 x 10
Push ups 2 x max

ez curl bar curls 2 x 10
pulley curls using a straight bar  2 x 10
single arm scott curls 2 x 10

weighted dips 2 x 6
rope push downs 2 x 12
single dumbbell two hand extensions 2 x 10

forearm wrist curls 2 x 20
reverse extensions 2 x 15

ab wheel 2 x max
weighted crunch with legs on a bench 1 x 50
bicycle crunches 1 x 55
machine crunches 2 x 25

Ivanko gripper 2 x 20

I'm doing a lot of cardio and my lifting has been going great. I made a lot of improvement in two weeks but the beer consumption is killing my leaning out. Going to go on the wagon for a few days.
4 Days in a row...how many do you drink ?

leg day brutal shock sets

hacks with lying sled press and stiff legged dlifts  x4 2/3/4/5 plates and sled 160/180/200/220..sldl 135/185/235/235

lunges and extensions and lying leg curls  ...80 lb bar  back,extensions 190/225/240..curls 140/145/155

calves
5 sets standing calf raise on hack squat
interesting to see the diffrent workout philosophy's. From very Basic to high volume. Today iīm going to do a hard cardio workout and some Abs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 02, 2014, 02:46:31 PM
Donny, three to five a day. Maybe not a lot for some but when I'm training hard it wrecks havoc on me. Tried to do a 5 mile run today and ran out of steam at 3 miles.  Getting a good nights sleep with no booze and I will hit it early.  If there was any consolation the hot women in bikinis were walking all over the place on the boardwalk. I can't believe how small some of these bathing suits were.  :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 02, 2014, 03:31:04 PM
seated calf raises  3 sets

hammer wide grip presses  3 sets

reverse grip pulldowns  3 sets

single arm side laterals  3 sets

lying db extensions  3 sets

concentration curls  3 sets

hammer shrugs  3 sets

treadmill 30 minutes
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on June 02, 2014, 06:52:18 PM
This H.I.T. is killing me.  I don't recall being sore for more than a couple of days when I tried it when I was young, but I'm sore for more than a week and either it's just too much for me or I'm taking it all too seriously and training like a crazed man.  I am talking bone deep pain and all from just a few sets taken the maximum.  Three sets of back and three sets of chest and I am sore for over a week.  Same with shoulders and arms. 

Anyone else in our age experience this or should I just back off.  Today I tried a couple extra warm up sets before the working set on back and then chest.  It might help, who knows?   I don't think training every two weeks would help as by the time my next session comes in 72 to 96 hours I'm still sore from back/chest and now its time to do shoulders/arms.  I rest, I eat well but damnit, I must be a freaking pussy to be this sore.

If I had a training partner I would go even harder but my son wants nothing to do with H.I.T. and says it pains him to watch me train with this method.    I know I cannot realistically go up in reps and/or poundage every session but I am trying. 


Any advices(!) welcome, gentlemen. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 02, 2014, 07:42:51 PM
chest

inc press  135/175/185/195 12-8 reps
 
flat press 135/185/185/135 12/10/8/15

cable crossovers superset with dips 12 /12 per

hammer press seated x2 2 plates x12/ 2.5 plates reps 11

tris
overhead rope extensions x4
pushdowns 150/160/160  10/10/8
reverse underhand pushdowns x2
close grip x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 03, 2014, 03:04:14 AM
Donny, three to five a day. Maybe not a lot for some but when I'm training hard it wrecks havoc on me. Tried to do a 5 mile run today and ran out of steam at 3 miles.  Getting a good nights sleep with no booze and I will hit it early.  If there was any consolation the hot women in bikinis were walking all over the place on the boardwalk. I can't believe how small some of these bathing suits were.  :P
Wish i could run on the Boardwalk with you  ;D check out the Babes. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 03, 2014, 12:52:39 PM
This H.I.T. is killing me.  I don't recall being sore for more than a couple of days when I tried it when I was young, but I'm sore for more than a week and either it's just too much for me or I'm taking it all too seriously and training like a crazed man.  I am talking bone deep pain and all from just a few sets taken the maximum.  Three sets of back and three sets of chest and I am sore for over a week.  Same with shoulders and arms. 

Anyone else in our age experience this or should I just back off.  Today I tried a couple extra warm up sets before the working set on back and then chest.  It might help, who knows?   I don't think training every two weeks would help as by the time my next session comes in 72 to 96 hours I'm still sore from back/chest and now its time to do shoulders/arms.  I rest, I eat well but damnit, I must be a freaking pussy to be this sore.

If I had a training partner I would go even harder but my son wants nothing to do with H.I.T. and says it pains him to watch me train with this method.    I know I cannot realistically go up in reps and/or poundage every session but I am trying. 


Any advices(!) welcome, gentlemen. 

First, don't call yourself a pussy just because your sore. You are sore because you are asking your body to do too much too soon. Listen to what your body is telling you. If you are hurting like you say you are, back off and give your body time to heal.

Seems like your son is a sensible and reasonable guy. Maybe you need him to be your training partner more as a voice of reason and to keep you from overdoing it more than you know.

Age plays a roll in how quickly we recover. Surely our bodies take longer to heal as we age, but everyone is different. How quickly we recover is not solely based on age.

Exercise routines should strike a balance between being challenging and being fun. I have found that if I finish my workout thinking I could do a little more, I am more apt to look forward to the next workout rather then dread it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 03, 2014, 02:30:21 PM
HIT truly has no definition of what is it is. They are a rabid crowd in their varied beliefs. Some say do three exercises to failure every 5 days or so. I think this is madness. A study awhile back done on guys using 12 different Nautilus machines for one set to failure found they barely used 100 calories. How do you get into shape doing that? Some will counter it's the fastest way to build muscle and muscle will burn calories at rest. Sorry, but if you are not dieting severely and you're only doing one set of 12 machines twice a week you are not going to get into shape.

I think a sensible approach can be varied with HIT. Try a split like Yates where you do a four way split with using 3 to 4 exercises a body part for one set to failure. Maybe one warm up set per exercise as needed. Your split can be something like Monday: Chest; Tuesday:Back; Wednesday off; Thursday: legs; Friday: delts and arms with weekends off.

Not counting warm ups as needed a chest workout could look like this. All sets to failure or close.

Flat Barbell bench 1 x 6 to 8 reps to failure
Incline barbell bench 1 x 8
weighted dips  1 x 8
flat dumbbell flies 1 x 10

The workout will have plenty of over lap so the body parts are in reality getting hit more than once a week. On chest day your triceps are getting hit hard and on arm day it's getting hit hard. Legs once on leg day and once on back day with dead lifts. I could go on for every body part.

A "religious" HIT guy will say this is blasphemy and the only the total body should be trained instead of a split. If that's what you are looking for you can do one exercise a body part and work from the largest to the smallest body part. For variation you can change the exercises you do three or two times a week.

Regarding soreness it goes away for the most part as you have regular training. Training once a week as some radical HIT guys preach is a recipe for always being sore.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 03, 2014, 02:35:23 PM
Woke up without a hangover today!  Ran 5 miles at a decent clip in 84 degree sun by the beach. Saw a couple of fine babes in bikinis walking around.  ;) 

Now here comes the crazy part. I'm going to try to train legs in the gym.  I have to have my head examined. I'm leaning out though.  Wish me luck.    ;D  I'm 55 and as you older hard core trainers know there is an incredible difference between a "normal" 55 year old and one that trains seriously. No drugs here. No hormone replacement. No problem with getting a boner either. LOL.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 03, 2014, 02:51:05 PM
Woke up without a hangover today!  Ran 5 miles at a decent clip in 84 degree sun by the beach. Saw a couple of fine babes in bikinis walking around.  ;) 

Now here comes the crazy part. I'm going to try to train legs in the gym.  I have to have my head examined. I'm leaning out though.  Wish me luck.    ;D  I'm 55 and as you older hard core trainers know there is an incredible difference between a "normal" 55 year old and one that trains seriously. No drugs here. No hormone replacement. No problem with getting a boner either. LOL.

Hope you are still saying this in 15 years when you will be 70 years old like me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 03, 2014, 05:33:00 PM
Hope you are still saying this in 15 years when you will be 70 years old like me.

Me too. I failed with training legs with weights today. I started with leg presses. When I moved on to squats I did two reps of a planned 12 rep set and said I can't do it.  Tomorrows another day. Damn I have to lighten the weights when I run in the heat.  Just delusional today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 03, 2014, 06:30:07 PM
Me too. I failed with training legs with weights today. I started with leg presses. When I moved on to squats I did two reps of a planned 12 rep set and said I can't do it.  Tomorrows another day. Damn I have to lighten the weights when I run in the heat.  Just delusional today.
don't do cardio on leg day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 03, 2014, 06:36:43 PM
don't do cardio on leg day.

I know. I should know better. Just training for a charity 5k road race but I won't let up on the lifting. I've finally hit exhaustion.  Maybe I'll hit legs hard tomorrow when I'm fresher.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 03, 2014, 11:39:11 PM
BACK:

REVERSE GRIP PULLDOWNS  3 SETS

MAGNUM MACHINE ROWS  3 SETS

SEATED CABLE ROWS  3 SETS

HYPEREXTENSIONS  3 SETS


TREADMILL 30 MINUTES
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 04, 2014, 02:13:51 AM
this week iīm having a break from Training. I will do some cardio. i think next week i will start doing a 3 Day a week Split. Higher reps and more volume. I like 5x5 but canīt do it forever. I find a 3 Day split great for recovery. Supersetting chest and back gets me sweating. also like Training Delts and arms together.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 04, 2014, 06:03:45 AM
this week iīm having a break from Training. I will do some cardio. i think next week i will start doing a 3 Day a week Split. Higher reps and more volume. I like 5x5 but canīt do it forever. I find a 3 Day split great for recovery. Supersetting chest and back gets me sweating. also like Training Delts and arms together.
8),,,change is good ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 04, 2014, 12:00:49 PM
Got my legs in today. A day late.   Squats were really hard with all the running I have been doing.

 I'm sure many here can agree there is a shocking difference in how guys over 50 look who train hard. No, I'm not talking about guys with the magic pills and syringes. When you see a 55 year old guy who's really lean with a good build it's so rare.

 On a side note the other day I saw a guy who had to be about 60 juiced to the gills jogging just above walking speed on the boardwalk. It just made me sad. Standing still he looked in great cosmetic shape but moving he looked really old waiting to have a heart attack with his beat red face. I hope health is a giant consideration for most older trainers.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 04, 2014, 12:09:48 PM
Got my legs in today. A day late.   Squats were really hard with all the running I have been doing.

 I'm sure many here can agree there is a shocking difference in how guys over 50 look who train hard. No, I'm not talking about guys with the magic pills and syringes. When you see a 55 year old guy who's really lean with a good build it's so rare.

 On a side note the other day I saw a guy who had to be about 60 juiced to the gills jogging just above walking speed on the boardwalk. It just made me sad. Standing still he looked in great cosmetic shape but moving he looked really old waiting to have a heart attack with his beat red face. I hope health is a giant consideration for most older trainers.


WHERE DO U LIVE?JERSEY I THINK NO?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 04, 2014, 03:22:59 PM
Yes, I do live in NJ like you I believe.  Why are you shouting at me with cap locks? Spent half my life in north Jersey but now I live by the shore.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 04, 2014, 07:49:45 PM
Yes, I do live in NJ like you I believe.  Why are you shouting at me with cap locks? Spent half my life in north Jersey but now I live by the shore.
i always usually use caplocks lol,,just a thing nothing else,,was the jacked dude wez that posts here he's56 pretty big and lives south nj as well..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 04, 2014, 07:59:22 PM
back

wide grip pullups x2 x12
inner grip x2 x12
bent over rows 138/185/205/225 12/10/10/10
under handed med grip pulldowns x3 150/165/180
low cable rows 180/195/210 10/10/10
rope standing pulls to waist

old school good mornings x4

bi's
curls 85/95/105
scott curldbells 30/35/35
cable curls single grip x4

abs x5 lying crunch machine sets 30
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 05, 2014, 09:45:54 AM
Ran 4.2 miles in the rain. Choose a park near my house. It felt like I owned the park because no one was out. Heading out to the casinos tonight. Going to stay over with the wife. I will ruin the cardio run with booze, restaurants, and drunken dancing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 05, 2014, 02:54:23 PM
chest and bis:


hammer strength wide grip presses   4 sets

flat bench db presses  4 sets

pec deck  4 sets

hammer strength preacher curls  6 sets

treadmill 30 minutes
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 06, 2014, 01:18:22 AM
Ran 4.2 miles in the rain. Choose a park near my house. It felt like I owned the park because no one was out. Heading out to the casinos tonight. Going to stay over with the wife. I will ruin the cardio run with booze, restaurants, and drunken dancing.
ha ha .... i like this Guy..  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: phreak on June 06, 2014, 02:54:34 AM
Got to the gym, did 7 sets of lateral raises, 3 sets of dumbell presses, 6 sets of cable tricep extensions, and one extra set to failure of lateral raises. Was out of the gym (including changing twice!) in 17 minutes. Took my shoulders over an hour to stop burning, was walking around at work with severe ILS. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 06, 2014, 07:44:42 AM
NEVER FORGOTTEN
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 06, 2014, 09:29:05 AM
DELTS 'HOME'

DB PRESS X4
FRONT PRESS X2
SIDE LATERALS DROPS 30 LB X10/20X10 X3
REAR LATERALS SEATED ON BENCH X3
UPRIGHT ROW CABLE X3

SHRUGS DB SEATED X3
REVERSE CABLE SHRUG X3
FR CABLE SHRUG X2

FORARMS
DB WRIST CURL X3
REVERSE CURL X3
WRIST CURL SINGLE ARM REVERSE X2
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 06, 2014, 02:46:28 PM
Last night I was on the dance floor right in front of the band in Harrahs casino feeling no pain.  So many girls wearing heels and short skirts to count.  Woke up in the hotel feeling like I ate cotton. Eyes were blood shot and watery. Drove home and cleaned the pool for a relative that was coming over. Then I did this workout. I am sitting here typing this feeling like I got hit by a Mack Truck.

Back and Delts

Pull ups 2 x max
Wide V low seated cable rows 2 x 12
V grip pulley pull downs 2 x 10
Barbell row 2 x 8 (did the old standard version where you bend over parallel to the ground)

Dumbbell shoulder press 2 x 8 ( I go all the way down with these)
Dumbbell laterals 2 x 10
Single arm pulley laterals 1 x 10
Rear delt dumbbell laterals 2 x 10

Olympic clean grip high pulls 2 x 4 (like a fast deadlift rising up on my toes to full extension)
Semi stiff leg deadlift off a block 2 x 6
Weighted hyper back extensions 2 x 15 (held a 25lbs plate behind my head)

Floor crunches 1 x 60 with a plate behind my head.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 07, 2014, 07:35:37 AM
Great weather today I'm going swimming. :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 07, 2014, 09:15:11 AM
Great weather today I'm going swimming. :)
nice...we are going to one of the dr's my wife uses for our kids,and she has worked with him at the hospital .kids/pool/all the nurses from his office and floor at the hospital.


i did legs 'heavy day'

extensions warmed up 175/190/205/220/235/250 all 12 rep sets/250x10
hack squat 3/4/5/5.5 plates
lying sled 200/220/240

stiff legged dlifts 135/185/225 superset with single leg lunges 'in place'not walking today 95/115/135
seated leg curl 165/180/195

calves
seated calf raise x3
leg press x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 07, 2014, 02:52:11 PM
arms and calves and 30 mins treadmill

seated calf raises  4 sets

rope pushdowns    4 sets

dips   3 sets

seated machine extensions  3 sets

reverse grip cable extensions  4 sets


standing db curls    3 sets

db preacher   4 sets

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 07, 2014, 03:28:20 PM
Ran 4.1 miles again in the park. Last Thursday it was raining and the park was empty. Today all the soccer fields were filled and the place was packed. Ran with my shirt off soaking up the sun.

 I wanted to enter some charity type 5k road races in a month or two but two of my adult kids are trying to get me to enter one tomorrow. It's going to be ugly for me as I'm 15 pounds away or so from my running weight. They are going to time me with a sand hour glass or a sun dial.  I guess I can treat it as a fast training run.  My prediction for the race is pain. I would have had that 15 pounds off already if it wasn't for my damn injuries.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 08, 2014, 11:22:24 AM
Warm again today... well warm for us here. went for a cycle was glad to get back home and cool off. Drunk gallons of water. Will weight Train tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 09, 2014, 06:21:35 AM
Today was Chest,Biceps, Abs

went for a run in the Woods then..

BB Bench press 3x6-8
Flat DB flys 3x10
Incline DB press 3x10 (left out the incline flys)
push up bar push ups 2xmax

Seated DB curls 3x8-10
EZ bar Close grip preacher curls 3x8-10
Reverse ez bar reverse curls 3x10

weighted crunches on floor 3xmax.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 09, 2014, 06:39:21 AM
Today was Chest,Biceps, Abs

went for a run in the Woods then..

BB Bench press 3x6-8
Flat DB flys 3x10
Incline DB press 3x10 (left out the incline flys)
push up bar push ups 2xmax

Seated DB curls 3x8-10
EZ bar Close grip preacher curls 3x8-10
Reverse ez bar reverse curls 3x10

weighted crunches on floor 3xmax.
nice chest bi's,,,like it D...I might switch it too...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 09, 2014, 06:54:01 AM
yes Steve normally i do a 3 day split but iīll try ..

chest/biceps/abs

quads/hams/calves

OFF

shoulders/Triceps/Abs

Back calves

OFF
OFF
as you know chest/triceps kills me but i should be ok with shoulders/triceps. after back day i will i think take 2 full days off so my triceps get full recovery before chest day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 09, 2014, 07:23:31 AM
yes Steve normally i do a 3 day split but iīll try ..

chest/biceps/abs

quads/hams/calves

OFF

shoulders/Triceps/Abs

Back calves

OFF
GOOD ROUTINE CLOSE TO MINE,THE 5TH  DAY ID TIME ALLOWS I DO A TOTAL UPPER BODY PUMP DAY A FEW SETS /COUPLE MOVEMENTS FOR EACH PART..
OFF
as you know chest/triceps kills me but i should be ok with shoulders/triceps. after back day i will i think take 2 full days off so my triceps get full recovery before chest day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 09, 2014, 07:36:57 PM
chest

fdb press 60/70/80/80-60 drop ...
inc press 60/60/60 supersetted inc flyes 40/40/40
lower hammer chest press 2/2.5/2.5plates supersetted dips x12
upper cable crossovers x3


tris
close grip  supesetted rope pushdowns 135/165/175/185 was till failure,,
extension machine supersetted reverse underhand pushdowns x3
cable kickbacks to finish x3

abs
pushing hard ,,,close to vacation,,,like to push condition level...

typical eat day..today

meal 1 bowl 'eyeball cup'kix cereal low to no sugar.with scoop whey protein

meal 2 packet flax oats with  scoop whey chocolaten and today hungry ate nut mix bagged with dry fruits 1 portion

meal 3 chicked grilled 'leftover from grilling sunday.broccolli/1 premade cup brown rice mix /2 peanut butter granola oat bars/cup dice pears..
meal 4 turkey burger /whole grain bun/ketchup/lett/red onion..crystal lite drink..hate straight water at times
train
meal 5 cereal.. again usually never eat this much cereal with 2 scoops whey,apple,some salt free pretzels mini's..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 09, 2014, 10:05:51 PM
delts and bis:


hammer strength shoulder presses   4 sets

cable side laterals   3 sets


reverse pec deck   3 sets

db shrugs    3 sets


standing db curls   3 sets

seated ez bar curls  3 sets

db preacher 3 sets

flat head machine curls  3 sets

20 minutes on the stepmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 10, 2014, 04:28:18 AM
Tonight legs and calfes.
20 mins on Bike to warm up.

Squats 5x10-15
Leg press 5x10-15 (will alternate Close and wide foot positions)
Seated leg curls 5x10-15
seated calf raises 5x10-15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 10, 2014, 04:41:45 AM
Tonight legs and calfes.
20 mins on Bike to warm up.

Squats 5x10-15
Leg press 5x10-15 (will alternate Close and wide foot positions)
Seated leg curls 5x10-15
seated calf raises 5x10-15
whenever I do wide to mid foot leg press or squats inner to outer thighs sore for days :D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 10, 2014, 05:10:09 AM
whenever I do wide to mid foot leg press or squats inner to outer thighs sore for days :D...
Do it too with squats but leg press is much more effective to target Areas safely(in my opinion) Also feet high on platform for more "Hammies" a word from Monty. Main meat and Bones is Squats but leg press is a good movement too. back Day i will Deadlift too so Quads and Hammies in there too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 10, 2014, 07:13:11 AM
Do it too with squats but leg press is much more effective to target Areas safely(in my opinion) Also feet high on platform for more "Hammies" a word from Monty. Main meat and Bones is Squats but leg press is a good movement too. back Day i will Deadlift too so Quads and Hammies in there too.
I'VE DONE HIGH FOOT PLACEMENT FOR 'HAMS'WORKS WELL
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 10, 2014, 07:37:42 AM
I'VE DONE HIGH FOOT PLACEMENT FOR 'HAMS'WORKS WELL
you get enough from your punishing lunges...after hard quad/hammies(love it). i am sore today after doing flat flys(yesterday) which i have not done for a while.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 10, 2014, 10:17:19 PM
back and calves:

reverse grip pulldowns  4 sets

magnum machine seated rows  3 sets

hammer strength pulldowns  3 sets

hyperextensions  3 sets

seated calf raises  5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 10, 2014, 10:38:18 PM
I had an interesting doctor's visit today. Seems I have atrial fibrillation in addition to atrial flutter. I already knew about the atrial flutter. My spine is fucked up too, which is probably the reason for all the problems I have with sciatica. Although it is probably only a momentary annoyance, it seems I have shingles. This is weird because I don't recall ever having the chicken pox which is generally considered to be the origin of shingles. I can't pursue having a steroid shot to my spine for the sciatica until I resolve the atrial fibrillation because it is not recommended for people on blood thinners. All this nonsense because it is time for my 5 year colonoscopy and during the pre-colonoscopy visit, that doctor found I had an irregular heartbeat. I tell you, being old has its downside for sure. Here I was going around thinking I was a healthy dude.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 11, 2014, 01:33:38 AM
I had an interesting doctor's visit today. Seems I have atrial fibrillation in addition to atrial flutter. I already knew about the atrial flutter. My spine is fucked up too, which is probably the reason for all the problems I have with sciatica. Although it is probably only a momentary annoyance, it seems I have shingles. This is weird because I don't recall ever having the chicken pox which is generally considered to be the origin of shingles. I can't pursue having a steroid shot to my spine for the sciatica until I resolve the atrial fibrillation because it is not recommended for people on blood thinners. All this nonsense because it is time for my 5 year colonoscopy and during the pre-colonoscopy visit, that doctor found I had an irregular heartbeat. I tell you, being old has its downside for sure. Here I was going around thinking I was a healthy dude.
Jay i think youīll be around for a while yet...you are of hard stock i think.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 11, 2014, 02:10:09 PM
I had an interesting doctor's visit today. Seems I have atrial fibrillation in addition to atrial flutter. I already knew about the atrial flutter. My spine is fucked up too, which is probably the reason for all the problems I have with sciatica. Although it is probably only a momentary annoyance, it seems I have shingles. This is weird because I don't recall ever having the chicken pox which is generally considered to be the origin of shingles. I can't pursue having a steroid shot to my spine for the sciatica until I resolve the atrial fibrillation because it is not recommended for people on blood thinners. All this nonsense because it is time for my 5 year colonoscopy and during the pre-colonoscopy visit, that doctor found I had an irregular heartbeat. I tell you, being old has its downside for sure. Here I was going around thinking I was a healthy dude.

Shingles can be incredibly painful. I hope you have a mild case. When it rains it pours. Back and heart issues on top of that really stinks. I hope you get well soon.

I know I'm a lot younger than you at 55 but I have changed my training.  The highest consideration for ages was always bodybuilding. Trying to be big as you age is not a wise choice concerning health. Now for me it's just fitness. I'm running so much that my strength has really gone down. I look fit but no one would confuse me with a bodybuilder at this point.  I've been in some charity type 5K road races and it's amazing how so many "old" men still have a big gas tank of energy. I think from here on in the majority of my lifting will be moderate weights with few cycles of heavy lifting every once in awhile.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 11, 2014, 06:56:08 PM
Shingles can be incredibly painful. I hope you have a mild case. When it rains it pours. Back and heart issues on top of that really stinks. I hope you get well soon.

I know I'm a lot younger than you at 55 but I have changed my training.  The highest consideration for ages was always bodybuilding. Trying to be big as you age is not a wise choice concerning health. Now for me it's just fitness. I'm running so much that my strength has really gone down. I look fit but no one would confuse me with a bodybuilder at this point.  I've been in some charity type 5K road races and it's amazing how so many "old" men still have a big gas tank of energy. I think for here on in the majority of my lifting will be moderate weights with few cycles of heavy lifting every once in awhile.
8)..good to have u here man...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 12, 2014, 04:19:45 AM
Today shoulders,triceps,abs

Machine press 4x6-8
one arm cable side raises 4x10-12
Rear delt machine 4x10-12
Close grip upright rows (cable) 4x10-12

Close grip Bench press 3x10-12
Incline Bench ez extensions 3x10-12
one arm cable Extension with supinated Hand 3x10-12

Double crunch on mat, bringing elbows and knees together 2xmax
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 12, 2014, 06:02:16 AM
back at home''basement was hot soaked afterwards great pump,like the heat..

behind neck pulldowns supersetted with low cable rows set to set less that 20 sec rest x4

standing stretch pulldowns to waist with db rows done together set to set x4

close grip reverse pulldowns and old school dbelll pullovers x3

BI'S
curl bar curls with seated hammer concentration curls x3

scott curls with dumbell curls x3

rope curls x3

abs
7 sets lying 12-15 8 lb db in foot leg raises 'old school rocky'

drenched by end hot in basement felt good ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 12, 2014, 06:16:32 AM
back at home''basement was hot soaked afterwards great pump,like the heat..

behind neck pulldowns supersetted with low cable rows set to set less that 20 sec rest x4

standing stretch pulldowns to waist with db rows done together set to set x4

close grip reverse pulldowns and old school dbelll pullovers x3

BI'S
curl bar curls with seated hammer concentration curls x3

scott curls with dumbell curls x3

rope curls x3

abs
7 sets lying 12-15 8 lb db in foot leg raises 'old school rocky'

drenched by end hot in basement felt good ..
ha ha love the Rocky leg raises actually very hard to do. Really work Abs, lower back.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 12, 2014, 06:58:55 AM
ha ha love the Rocky leg raises actually very hard to do. Really work Abs, lower back.
;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: phreak on June 13, 2014, 02:21:34 AM
Earlier this morning:
- Supersetted medium-wide lat pulls to chest with straight-bar tricep extensions (5x12 each),
- Lateral raise, 6x12 in 3 minutes (light),
- Tricep extensions, single hand, 3x12,
- Tricep extensions, rope, both hands, 4x12.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 13, 2014, 06:20:20 AM
will do back/calfes tonight

Front lat Pulldowns 3x10-12
Seated machine rows 3x10-12
One arm DB rows  3x10-12
Deadlifts 3x 5

Calf press machine 5x 12-15

do some Lat pulldowns for a Change and Machine rows.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 13, 2014, 08:35:51 AM
DELTS

DROPS/SIDE LATERALS KILLER  30/25/20/15 X2 40 REP SETS
DB PRESSES 50/55/55 10/8/8
FR PRESS 135/145/145
HAVEN'T DONE THESES IN A WHILE DB UPRIGHT ROWS 30/35/35
REAR SEATED BENT OVER REAR RAISES 25/30/30

SHRUGS
SHRUG FRONT AND SUPERSET WITH 45 PLATE IN EACH HAND TO SIDES

CALVES
STANDING CALF RAISE
140X25
160X20
180X20
200X15
220X11 GASSED..

FORARMS
WRIST CURL REVERSE CABLE
TOP AND REAR
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 13, 2014, 03:22:15 PM
chest/bis/cardio:

hammer strength wide grip   4 sets

flat bench db presses  4 sets


pec deck     4 sets


standing db curls    3 sets

concentration curls   3 sets

seated ez bar curls  3 sets

15 mins  treadmill........15 mins stepmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 14, 2014, 06:58:59 AM
chest/bis/cardio:

hammer strength wide grip   4 sets

flat bench db presses  4 sets


pec deck     4 sets


standing db curls    3 sets

concentration curls   3 sets

seated ez bar curls  3 sets

15 mins  treadmill........15 mins stepmill
did my cardio this morning running, was cool today perfect.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 14, 2014, 08:12:02 AM
did my cardio this morning running, was cool today perfect.
You are dedicated Donny!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 14, 2014, 09:43:50 AM
I did chest and bicep today. I change my splits and routines a lot. Today I did one set to exhaustion and about 4 exercises a body part.

I was thinking about some lifting strategies. When I was finished I was thinking about various split routines.  I'm trying to get better at running and I think a split is a mistake for me. Nothing is worse than getting two great workouts in on a split then being too exhausted from running to finish the split for the week.

This bring up whole body routines.  If you train the whole body in one shot you are done. It works if you get three whole training days in a week or even one. I'm tempted to go back to a whole body routine but they are brutally hard compared to splits.  

For me there is no such thing as power bodybuilding when I'm doing a lot of miles. I'm also thinking about doing a split but using really moderate weights but it just hurts the ego to rep out using really moderate/ light weights. My wife who absolutely never works out made a really good observation. She said when I'm not running but lifting I get really muscular. When I'm doing a lot of running I complain about how I can't lift the way I want too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 14, 2014, 01:17:10 PM
I did chest and bicep today. I change my splits and routines a lot. Today I did one set to exhaustion and about 4 exercises a body part.

I was thinking about some lifting strategies. When I was finished I was thinking about various split routines.  I'm trying to get better at running and I think a split is a mistake for me. Nothing is worse than getting two great workouts in on a split then being too exhausted from running to finish the split for the week.

This bring up whole body routines.  If you train the whole body in one shot you are done. It works if you get three whole training days in a week or even one. I'm tempted to go back to a whole body routine but they are brutally hard compared to splits.  

For me there is no such thing as power bodybuilding when I'm doing a lot of miles. I'm also thinking about doing a split but using really moderate weights but it just hurts the ego to rep out using really moderate/ light weights. My wife who absolutely never works out made a really good observation. She said when I'm not running but lifting I get really muscular. When I'm doing a lot of running I complain about how I can't lift the way I want too.
i think if i was you i would weight Train 2 x a week with an upper/lower split. Then you have more recovery time and can still get your running in. Train Monday Upper and Thurs or Friday Lower and thatīs it. Just get good solid Basics in there not so much the amount of exercises but the ones that are effective.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 14, 2014, 01:31:03 PM
I did chest and bicep today. I change my splits and routines a lot. Today I did one set to exhaustion and about 4 exercises a body part.

I was thinking about some lifting strategies. When I was finished I was thinking about various split routines.  I'm trying to get better at running and I think a split is a mistake for me. Nothing is worse than getting two great workouts in on a split then being too exhausted from running to finish the split for the week.

This bring up whole body routines.  If you train the whole body in one shot you are done. It works if you get three whole training days in a week or even one. I'm tempted to go back to a whole body routine but they are brutally hard compared to splits.  

For me there is no such thing as power bodybuilding when I'm doing a lot of miles. I'm also thinking about doing a split but using really moderate weights but it just hurts the ego to rep out using really moderate/ light weights. My wife who absolutely never works out made a really good observation. She said when I'm not running but lifting I get really muscular. When I'm doing a lot of running I complain about how I can't lift the way I want too.

Your wife comments are right on. Seems like she is telling you what you already know. You seem conflicted with regards to running and weight-training. Maybe you need to pick one thing and just go for it. Nothing is forever, you could devote energy exclusively to running for awhile and if you grow tired of this, switch to weight training. Either way, you are getting exercise and staying healthy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 14, 2014, 11:01:26 PM
back:


reverse grip pulldowns   4 sets

hammer strength high rows  4 sets

seated cable rows   3 sets

hyperextensions  3 sets

30 minutes treadmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 15, 2014, 12:04:18 AM
It is officially father's day. Happy father's day to all you dads. It's a big job, but thank goodness some of you are willing to take it on. Hope you all have a great day and that your kids appreciate all you do for them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 15, 2014, 01:10:39 AM
It is officially father's day. Happy father's day to all you dads. It's a big job, but thank goodness some of you are willing to take it on. Hope you all have a great day and that your kids appreciate all you do for them.
you too jay have a good one.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 15, 2014, 02:07:14 AM
well the England Game against Italy was a bit disappointing last Night... They were a bit unlucky. Just hope the Germans get spanked on their first Game ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 15, 2014, 07:38:58 AM
happy fathers DAY!!!!all...


legs today crazy me..

tri set
hack squats/lying sled/stiff leggede dlifts/...2/3/4/5 on hack/160-220 sled/135/225 on stiffs..x4

tri set 2
lunges walking/extensions/leg curls...80 lb bar...190-235 ext,140-150 on ham curl..x3


calves seated calf raise
2 plates x25
2.5 x20
3plates x15
3 plates and 10 x15
3.5 x12
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 16, 2014, 08:21:18 AM
 cardio and chest/biceps/abs

Dumbbell bench press 3x6-8
flat DB flyes 3x10-12
Incline DB press 3x10-12
push ups with push up bars 3xmax

Seated DB curls 3x8-10
seated preacher curls with straight bar 3x8-10
EZ bar rev curls 2x10-15

Hanging knee raises 2x max with incline sit ups 2x20-25
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 16, 2014, 08:53:53 AM
HAD A NICE BARBECUE ON FATHERS DAY FOR MY POP...FILET MIGNON/CORN ON GRILL/CHICKEN SAUSAGE AND PEPPERS/PASTA WITH PESTO,GREEK OLIVES,TOMATOES ,MOZZARELLA.SANGRIA'FOR ME'LOL...GOOD DAY..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 16, 2014, 09:05:13 AM
HAD A NICE BARBECUE ON FATHERS DAY FOR MY POP...FILET MIGNON/CORN ON GRILL/CHICKEN SAUSAGE AND PEPPERS/PASTA WITH PESTO,GREEK OLIVES,TOMATOES ,MOZZARELLA.SANGRIA'FOR ME'LOL...GOOD DAY..
  :P iīm hungry now... :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 16, 2014, 09:06:26 AM
watching the Germany / Portugal game..  hope Portugal win.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 16, 2014, 09:33:44 AM
32 mins and 2-0 for Germany.... ???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 16, 2014, 10:35:27 AM
HAD A NICE BARBECUE ON FATHERS DAY FOR MY POP...FILET MIGNON/CORN ON GRILL/CHICKEN SAUSAGE AND PEPPERS/PASTA WITH PESTO,GREEK OLIVES,TOMATOES ,MOZZARELLA.SANGRIA'FOR ME'LOL...GOOD DAY..

I fixed dinner for my wife and me. At her suggestion, I made cheesy polenta (polenta with cheddar and parmesan) served with a poached egg on top and sautéed mushrooms; garnished with snipped chives. With this, I made a Caesar salad. I had white wine and my wife drank her usual iced tea. After Saturday night's big dinner and yesterday's yummy breakfast, we both wanted something light for dinner.

The shingles blisters are drying up, which is good. Unfortunately, I still ache from the knee area all the way up to just under my chest on the left side. The pain is most annoying at night when I am trying to sleep.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 16, 2014, 01:57:19 PM
HAD A NICE BARBECUE ON FATHERS DAY FOR MY POP...FILET MIGNON/CORN ON GRILL/CHICKEN SAUSAGE AND PEPPERS/PASTA WITH PESTO,GREEK OLIVES,TOMATOES ,MOZZARELLA.SANGRIA'FOR ME'LOL...GOOD DAY..
Sounds absolutely tasty!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 16, 2014, 01:57:50 PM
cardio and chest/biceps/abs

Dumbbell bench press 3x6-8
flat DB flyes 3x10-12
Incline DB press 3x10-12
push ups with push up bars 3xmax

Seated DB curls 3x8-10
seated preacher curls with straight bar 3x8-10
EZ bar rev curls 2x10-15

Hanging knee raises 2x max with incline sit ups 2x20-25
Damn good workout Donny!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 16, 2014, 02:16:02 PM
cardio and chest/biceps/abs

Dumbbell bench press 3x6-8
flat DB flyes 3x10-12
Incline DB press 3x10-12
push ups with push up bars 3xmax

Seated DB curls 3x8-10
seated preacher curls with straight bar 3x8-10
EZ bar rev curls 2x10-15

Hanging knee raises 2x max with incline sit ups 2x20-25
SOUNDS LIKE MINE ,,SWAP BI'S FOR TRIS THO  :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 16, 2014, 05:53:05 PM
Just watched USA win their match in the World Cup.  The kids gave me a kayak for Father's day. Didn't get a chance to put it in real water so I after some adult beverages I put it in the pool over the objections of my wife.

I lifted for delts and arms today but I completely just "played" in the gym for high volume sets.  It actually felt good for the joints using light weights. It really warmed the joints and "lubricated" them. After I went for a 5K run.  A 20 something kid blew by me on the one mile park loop by my house. He stopped after running one mile and I continued on for 2 more miles. Slow and steady wins the race.  ;)

 As I was running I thought about how to combine running and lifting for me. I settled on my Yates inspired routine.  A 4 way split training each body part once a week with 4 exercises per body part more or less for one work set. If I can spend 45 minutes as a time in the weight room I should be semi okay to go for a run after. I will not run on leg and possibly back day leaving 5 days for running a week. I will use the Yates split of Monday: chest and bicep. Tuesday: legs. Wednesday off weights. Thursday: Back. Friday: delts and triceps. Weekend off weights.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 16, 2014, 07:50:34 PM
chest
fdb press...60/70/80/85-60 drop.
inc db  60/65/65
inc flyes  40/50/55
barbell pullovers 'old school'nice pump 60/70/70 premade bars sets 12..
cable crossovers x2x12
dips x1x20,lower cable crossover x1

tri
dip machine x3 190/210/210 sets 12-10
rope pulldowns x3 x10 90/100/100
reverse pulldowns x3 100-120 x10
close grip x2 175/185 10/6 reps

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 16, 2014, 09:31:23 PM
calves/delts/bis:


cybex rotary   5 sets

hammer strength presses   4 sets

db laterals   4 sets

reverse pec deck   4 sets

db shrugs 4 sets


standing db curls   3 sets

flat head machine curls  3 sets

concentration curls  3 sets

seated ez bar curls  3 sets


30 minutes treadmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 17, 2014, 12:57:26 AM
Solid workouts going on Guys... Good to see the US winning against Ghana ;D Go for it Yankee Boys ;)

Legs Tonight...

Squats 4-5 sets 10-12 reps
Leg press 4-5 sets 10-12 reps
Seated leg curls 4-5 sets 10-12 reps

Calf press machine 5 sets 10-15


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 17, 2014, 09:39:44 PM
Solid workouts going on Guys... Good to see the US winning against Ghana ;D Go for it Yankee Boys ;)

Legs Tonight...

Squats 4-5 sets 10-12 reps
Leg press 4-5 sets 10-12 reps
Seated leg curls 4-5 sets 10-12 reps

Calf press machine 5 sets 10-15

NICE LEG WORKOUT DONNY!


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 17, 2014, 09:40:19 PM
chest
fdb press...60/70/80/85-60 drop.
inc db  60/65/65
inc flyes  40/50/55
barbell pullovers 'old school'nice pump 60/70/70 premade bars sets 12..
cable crossovers x2x12
dips x1x20,lower cable crossover x1

tri
dip machine x3 190/210/210 sets 12-10
rope pulldowns x3 x10 90/100/100
reverse pulldowns x3 100-120 x10
close grip x2 175/185 10/6 reps

abs
LOOKING SOLID STEVERINO!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 18, 2014, 04:21:45 AM

nothing Special just Basic. Donīt see the Need for more at the Moment. Good to hear your Biceps are coming up nice George.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2014, 08:13:13 AM
LOOKING SOLID STEVERINO!
:)..georggggiiiieee!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 18, 2014, 08:25:47 AM
:)..georggggiiiieee!!!

Steeeeevvvvvooooo    ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2014, 08:40:59 AM
Steeeeevvvvvooooo    ;D
donnnyyy boooyyyy!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 18, 2014, 08:43:40 AM
donnnyyy boooyyyy!!!
Doing good Bro.. rest Day for me .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2014, 08:50:52 AM
Doing good Bro.. rest Day for me .
back /bi 2 nite..READY TO GO CHEST /BI AND DELT/TRI I THINK
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 18, 2014, 09:00:37 AM
back /bi 2 nite..READY TO GO CHEST /BI AND DELT/TRI I THINK
I think itīs a Sound split Steve. For me  Shoulders/triceps is much better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2014, 09:05:18 AM
I think itīs a Sound split Steve. For me  Shoulders/triceps is much better.
MON CHEST/ABS/BI
TUES OFF
WED BACK ABS/CALVES
THURS DELT/TRI/FORARMS
FRI OFF
SAT OR SUN LEGS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 18, 2014, 09:05:33 AM
George is hitting biceps 2x a week with a similar split. Gave me the kick for chest / biceps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 18, 2014, 09:14:59 AM
MON CHEST/ABS/BI
TUES OFF
WED BACK ABS/CALVES
THURS DELT/TRI/FORARMS
FRI OFF
SAT OR SUN LEGS
Looks good Steve as Long as your Biceps recover enough for Back Training. Knowing you...no problem ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2014, 09:22:24 AM
Looks good Steve as Long as your Biceps recover enough for Back Training. Knowing you...no problem ;)
I though same thing I might switch delt day and back ,3 days mon to thurs bi's should recover.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 18, 2014, 09:29:23 AM
I though same thing I might switch delt day and back ,3 days mon to thurs bi's should recover.
For me the weak link is arms. I Need longer to recover. You Need Bicep strength for back Training. itīs a pulling movement. i can only speak for myself. if I trained Biceps 2 days before Back i would struggle with my back Training.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2014, 09:33:23 AM
For me the weak link is arms. I Need longer to recover. You Need Bicep strength for back Training. itīs a pulling movement. i can only speak for myself. if I trained Biceps 2 days before Back i would struggle with my back Training.
I know ,and I rack my head crazy to get right mix,,back to drawing board..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 18, 2014, 09:35:31 AM
I know ,and I rack my head crazy to get right mix,,back to drawing board..
Do you really Need too? you look great Steve !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2014, 09:41:15 AM
Do you really Need too? you look great Steve !
I appreciate it,,,change it up ..but if it doesn't add up I will stay status quo..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 18, 2014, 09:56:28 AM
I appreciate it,,,change it up ..but if it doesn't add up I will stay status quo..
always good to Keep an open mind..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 18, 2014, 07:56:24 PM
no training tonight......just watching some baseball......picked up some fireworks on father's day!!!!


ready for the fourth!!!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2014, 07:58:41 PM
no training tonight......just watching some baseball......picked up some fireworks on father's day!!!!


ready for the fourth!!!!!
send some to me lol...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 18, 2014, 08:05:43 PM
send some to me lol...
LOL....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 19, 2014, 06:01:08 AM
So...So...So....tonight shoulders/triceps/Abs

Seated DB press 4x6-10
DB side Raises 4x10-12
Bent over DB Raises 4x10-12
BB shrugs 3x8 ( donīt do them much but why the hell not ;D)

Parallel Bar Dips 3xmax
lying BB skull crushers 3x10-12

ab Roller crunches with Hanging knee raises
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 19, 2014, 06:35:39 AM
So...So...So....tonight shoulders/triceps/Abs

Seated DB press 4x6-10
DB side Raises 4x10-12
Bent over DB Raises 4x10-12
BB shrugs 3x8 ( donīt do them much but why the hell not ;D)

Parallel Bar Dips 3xmax
lying BB skull crushers 3x10-12

ab Roller crunches with Hanging knee raises
BACK ...
PULLUPS WIDE X2X12,,CLOSE SIDE GRIPS X2X12
TBAR ROW 2 PLATES X12,2.5X10,3 X10,3.5 X9
LOW ROW MACHINE UNDERHANDED GRIP 170/190/190
STANDING WIDE BAR PULLS TO WAIST X3

GOOD MORNING X3

BIS
CURL BAR CURLS PREMADE 60/80/90/90
SEATE DCURL'SCOTT CURL'MACHINE X3
ROPE CURLS X3
CABLE CURLS X2 PULL UP ON ANGLE AT SIDES

ABS
CRUNCHES X5 150 REPS TOTAL...WE HAVE COOL NON WEIGHT ASSISTED LYING CRUNCH MACHINE IT CONTOURS TO BACK AND NECK AND PADDED LIKE THE 'LAME 'FLOOR VERSIONS SOLD IN THE 90'S AD NAUSEUM...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 19, 2014, 06:54:36 AM
BACK ...
PULLUPS WIDE X2X12,,CLOSE SIDE GRIPS X2X12
TBAR ROW 2 PLATES X12,2.5X10,3 X10,3.5 X9
LOW ROW MACHINE UNDERHANDED GRIP 170/190/190
STANDING WIDE BAR PULLS TO WAIST X3

GOOD MORNING X3

BIS
CURL BAR CURLS PREMADE 60/80/90/90
SEATE DCURL'SCOTT CURL'MACHINE X3
ROPE CURLS X3
CABLE CURLS X2 PULL UP ON ANGLE AT SIDES

ABS
CRUNCHES X5 150 REPS TOTAL...WE HAVE COOL NON WEIGHT ASSISTED LYING CRUNCH MACHINE IT CONTOURS TO BACK AND NECK AND PADDED LIKE THE 'LAME 'FLOOR VERSIONS SOLD IN THE 90'S AD NAUSEUM...

sounds like a great Ab machine. we only have the type seated with a chest Pad and a type where you have pads for elbows and crunch downwards... I like the machine with chest pad better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 19, 2014, 07:04:21 AM
sounds like a great Ab machine. we only have the type seated with a chest Pad and a type where you have pads for elbows and crunch downwards... I like the machine with chest pad better.
I USE THE ELBOW PAD AND CRUNCH DOWN ON ONE OF MY AB WORKOUTS LIKE THAT ONE,,I USE THE ROMAN CHAIR AS WELL,AND I IMPROVISE LEG RAISES I USE THE ASSISTED PULLUP MACHINE I PUT THE PAD UP TURN AROUND AND SUPPORT MY TAIL BONE ON EDGE PAD 'LOL'ON THE PAD SO I DON'T SWING AND THEN DO LEG RAISES NO PROBLEM..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 19, 2014, 07:17:36 AM
I USE THE ELBOW PAD AND CRUNCH DOWN ON ONE OF MY AB WORKOUTS LIKE THAT ONE,,I USE THE ROMAN CHAIR AS WELL,AND I IMPROVISE LEG RAISES I USE THE ASSISTED PULLUP MACHINE I PUT THE PAD UP TURN AROUND AND SUPPORT MY TAIL BONE ON EDGE PAD 'LOL'ON THE PAD SO I DON'T SWING AND THEN DO LEG RAISES NO PROBLEM..
I remember you mentioned this before.. your ab exercise sounds effective. I also like Seated knee ins, sitting side ways on a Bench doing a type of knee raise to chest.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 19, 2014, 07:59:05 AM
I remember you mentioned this before.. your ab exercise sounds effective. I also like Seated knee ins, sitting side ways on a Bench doing a type of knee raise to chest.
I DO THOSE TOO,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 19, 2014, 08:09:02 AM
I DO THOSE TOO,,,
i can really feel my abs on These nice contraction. works it all. I lean back and come forward crunching my lower and upper Body together.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 19, 2014, 11:14:38 AM
always liked this guy (no Homo) ;D Greg plitt
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 19, 2014, 02:57:24 PM
I will superset arms this eve.


standing ez bar curls and then dips......4 sets each.


flat head machine curls and then lying db extensions......4 sets each.


concentration curls and then one arm rope pushdowns......4 sets each.


20 mins stepmill followed by 20 mins treadmill.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: phreak on June 20, 2014, 12:44:55 AM
yesterday was full body volume day (about 50 sets in 40 minutes). Today full body HIT day, 5 sets in 50 minutes. I actually liked yesterday better!

This morning:
wide-grip lat pulls: about 30 reps with 155. 18 alone, around 8 with a spot, and a handful of decreasing ROM partials.
db rear delts: unknown reps to total failure with 45 Lb dbs.
flat db press: 28 reps with 75 Lb dbs, most paused at bottom. Gym doesn't have heavier dbs. ::)
cable tricep extension, rope: 20 reps with 45 Lbs.
leg extension: 22 full reps, heaviest selectable weight.

I need to man up and find a more hardcore gym. :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 20, 2014, 09:02:50 PM
delts
seated behind neck press x4 last setdrop
underhanded curlbar front raise x3
db upright rows
rear delt on peckdeck x3
drops side laterals 30/25/20 x2 30 repsets

shrugs 225-315 12-15reps...
reverse rear shrug x2


calves 5 sets calf raise standing

forearms reverse and reg grip wrist curls 8 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 21, 2014, 08:46:52 AM
delts
seated behind neck press x4 last setdrop
underhanded curlbar front raise x3
db upright rows
rear delt on peckdeck x3
drops side laterals 30/25/20 x2 30 repsets

shrugs 225-315 12-15reps...
reverse rear shrug x2


calves 5 sets calf raise standing

forearms reverse and reg grip wrist curls 8 sets
OUTSTANDING my Man... ;D I never worked out yesterday going to Train tonight.

Back ..

pulldowns to front 4 sets
BB rows 4 sets
barbell Pullovers 3 Sets
Deadlifts 4 sets

calves and Abs iīll work with machine crunches and calf press machine. Sets iīll just do from Feeling.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 22, 2014, 12:27:33 PM
been flipping a heavy leg to a tri/superset leg day,,today heavy

extension 1st 160 warmx15...190x12/205x12,230 x12/230x12,265x12
squats close stance 225 x12,275x10,315 x10,365x10
lying sled press 220/240/240 all 10 to 12 reps

sldl hams
185/225/225
sit upham curls 180/195/210

calves 6 sets leg press
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: phreak on June 23, 2014, 12:51:35 AM
Last few weeks I've been trying out more volume. I get results from HIT, I get results from volume, and I get results from high frequency. So instead of frequently vaccilating between those options, I now do all three concurrently. So far I'm feeling pretty good!

So my new routine is:

Monday: high volume, full body
Tuesday: HIT, full body
Thursday: high volume, full body
Friday: HIT, full body


Today, in 35 minutes total, I did:
seated cable row, 15 sets
db bench, 10 sets
medium grip lat pulls, 8 sets
tricep pushdowns, 10 sets
hammer curls, 5 sets

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 23, 2014, 01:06:19 AM
been flipping a heavy leg to a tri/superset leg day,,today heavy

extension 1st 160 warmx15...190x12/205x12,230 x12/230x12,265x12
squats close stance 225 x12,275x10,315 x10,365x10
lying sled press 220/240/240 all 10 to 12 reps

sldl hams
185/225/225
sit upham curls 180/195/210

calves 6 sets leg press
nice Steve. how Long did that take you?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 23, 2014, 03:08:24 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 23, 2014, 05:14:18 AM
nice Steve. how Long did that take you?
about 1hr to 1:15 most I check clock as we go all the time...it was hot all week in jersey and air conditioned gym I was still pretty sweaty  :P.i used to use knee wraps esp when younger and now only on heaviest set as older weird...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 23, 2014, 06:22:38 AM
about 1hr to 1:15 most I check clock as we go all the time...it was hot all week in jersey and air conditioned gym I was still pretty sweaty  :P.i used to use knee wraps esp when younger and now only on heaviest set as older weird...
you aint Old... ;D i was running today. Nice breeze really went for it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 23, 2014, 07:51:10 AM
you aint Old... ;D i was running today. Nice breeze really went for it.
meant my joints are better now older,i guess I babied them yrs ago and it helped
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 23, 2014, 07:57:10 PM
Trained legs yesterday. I woke up stiff. It was a off day for lifting but I wanted to do something physical for the muscles so a did pull ups, push ups and body weight rows. For body weight rows I put a barbell in the squat rack and I lie on the floor facing the ceiling putting my feet on a bench. Then from this horizontal position I do body weight rows. It's a great movement.

I then went down to a  park and ran 5.2 miles in the heat. I looked at my cars and thought they looked dirty. Vacuumed both, hand washed and dried both cars. I thought I was done.The pool could use a cleaning so then I started that project. Both cars were shining and the pool was crystal clear clean. My wife calls me from her job and says she is going out with her girlfriend after work can I make dinner for my two boys? Here I am chopping garlic, chicken, and spices cooking it in virgin olive oil with cut up vegetables. Put a little wine in it. Poured the whole mixture on top of pasta.

Is anybody reading this? LOL. Tomorrow is delts and arms. I keep changing my routines but I guess that's not a bad thing. Hopefully a short but hard 2 mile run after the weight session. The wife on Wednesday is getting her hair done at a hair salon near a water reservoir. She wants me to keep her company on the ride saying, "You can run the reservoir while I get my hair done like you did 20 years ago."  The reservoir is 5 miles around with a severe up hill from mile 3.5 to 4.5 that is my nemesis. I have gone out way to fast back in the day and then I hit that white whale up hill grade that has absolutely kicked my ass when I was younger.  Without a doubt no matter what I do at 55 I'm slowing down. Wish me luck. It's going to be ugly.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 23, 2014, 08:05:51 PM
Trained legs yesterday. I woke up stiff. It was a off day for lifting but I wanted to do something physical for the muscles so a did pull ups, push ups and body weight rows. For body weight rows I put a barbell in the squat rack and I lie on the floor facing the ceiling putting my feet on a bench. Then from this horizontal position I do body weight rows. It's a great movement.

I then went down to a  park and ran 5.2 miles in the heat. I looked at my cars and thought they looked dirty. Vacuumed both, hand washed and dried both cars. I thought I was done.The pool could use a cleaning so then I started that project. Both cars were shining and the pool was crystal clear clean. My wife calls me from her job and says she is going out with her girlfriend after work can I make dinner for my two boys? Here I am chopping garlic, chicken, and spices cooking it in virgin olive oil with cut up vegetables. Put a little wine in it. Poured the whole mixture on top of pasta.

Is anybody reading this? LOL. Tomorrow is delts and arms. I keep changing my routines but I guess that's not a bad thing. Hopefully a short but hard 2 mile run after the weight session. The wife on Wednesday is getting her hair done at a hair salon near a water reservoir. She wants me to keep her company on the ride saying, "You can run the reservoir while I get my hair done like you did 20 years ago."  The reservoir is 5 miles around with a severe up hill from mile 3.5 to 4.5 that is my nemesis. I have gone out way to fast back in the day and then I hit that white whale up hill grade that has absolutely kicked my ass when I was younger.  Without a doubt no matter what I do at 55 I'm slowing down. Wish me luck. It's going to be ugly.  
we read it all here oldtimer.u write it i read it,sometimes i comment but always read
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 23, 2014, 08:16:09 PM
chest
inc db 50 warm..60/70/75 few drop 65,,then 65 again
flat db press on top portion turn palms in 60/60/60 gassed on these
inc flye 40/45/45
lowe cable crossover x2
dips x2 x15
bar pullovers on bench x3

tris
rope overhead extensions x4
 extension machine x3
reverse pushdowns x3
pushdowns x2 elbow out slightly

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 23, 2014, 11:14:08 PM
squats    3 sets

leg presses   3 sets

leg extensions  3 sets

unilateral leg curls  3 sets

lying leg curls  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 24, 2014, 05:46:49 AM
squats    3 sets

leg presses   3 sets

leg extensions  3 sets

unilateral leg curls  3 sets

lying leg curls  3 sets
NICE AND TO THE POINT...WHAT KINDA WEIGHTS DO YOU USE ?SQUATS/PRESSES,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 24, 2014, 08:17:05 AM
I hate Shopping for clothes with my wife...my feet are killing me. Turns into a Marathon walk around.. try this Shirt on..try this on... ::) I just see something and buy it. Rant over... ;D so workout today was..

Flat DB Bench press 3x6-8
flat Flys 3x10-12
Incline BB press 3x6-8
Push ups 2x max with feet raised.

Seated DB curls 3x8-12
Ez bar preacher curls 3x8-12
reverse BB curls 2x10-15

Abs .. hanging knee raises 2x max
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 24, 2014, 11:03:42 AM
Trained delts and arms today.

Dumbbell press 2 x 8 (bad shoulder. Used light 50lbs dumbbells going all the way down as far as I could in a controlled manner)
Dumbbell laterals 2 x 10
Single arm pulley laterals 1 x 10
Rear delt laterals 2 x 10
Barbell shrugs 2 x 10

Weighted dips 2 x 10 ( went as low as I could. No shallow ego dips for me.)
traditional tricep pushdowns 2 x 10
skull crusher type tricep extention (did one set and my elbow screamed)
rope tricep pushdowns 2 x12

ez bar curls 2 x 10 ( I always use a straight bar. This is easier on my shoulder)
straight bar pulley curls 2 x 10 ( I really feel this. No dead spots on resistance.)
Single dumbbell scott curl 2 x 10

Forearm wrist curls 2 x 20
reverse wrist extensions 2 x 15

Ab wheel 2 x max
Weighted crunch feet on bench 1 x 50 ( I hold a plate behind my head)
Pulley crunches 2 x 25

Ivanko gripper 2 x 20

Drove to a park after and ran 2 miles. Very few milf's running today on the trail.  A real disappointment. Ran two slow 8:40 miles. A bit shot from lifting. Tomorrow is another day. Wish I was getting leaner quicker but I have the worse diet and to compound that I love beer.  ;D

I haven't drank in 6 days. Tomorrow I will have a few cold ones at one of the bars by the bay here and watch the boats go by.


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 24, 2014, 11:59:45 AM
Trained delts and arms today.

Dumbbell press 2 x 8 (bad shoulder. Used light 50lbs dumbbells going all the way down as far as I could in a controlled manner)
Dumbbell laterals 2 x 10
Single arm pulley laterals 1 x 10
Rear delt laterals 2 x 10
Barbell shrugs 2 x 10

Weighted dips 2 x 10 ( went as low as I could. No shallow ego dips for me.)
traditional tricep pushdowns 2 x 10
skull crusher type tricep extention (did one set and my elbow screamed)
rope tricep pushdowns 2 x12

ez bar curls 2 x 10 ( I always use a straight bar. This is easier on my shoulder)
straight bar pulley curls 2 x 10 ( I really feel this. No dead spots on resistance.)
Single dumbbell scott curl 2 x 10

Forearm wrist curls 2 x 20
reverse wrist extensions 2 x 15

Ab wheel 2 x max
Weighted crunch feet on bench 1 x 50 ( I hold a plate behind my head)
Pulley crunches 2 x 25

Ivanko gripper 2 x 20

Drove to a park after and ran 2 miles. Very few milf's running today on the trail.  A real disappointment. Ran two slow 8:40 miles. A bit shot from lifting. Tomorrow is another day. Wish I was getting leaner quicker but I have the worse diet and to compound that I love beer.  ;D

I haven't drank in 6 days. Tomorrow I will have a few cold ones at one of the bars by the bay here and watch the boats go by.



NICE...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 24, 2014, 10:26:52 PM
chest tonight....was going to include biceps but my strained left forearm wouldn't allow me to train them........so chest and cardio only.



hammer wide grip.......one side at a time......what a pump!!!!


then flat db presses


and ending with pec deck........4 sets per exercise.


stepmill for 20 mins.......then treadmill for 20 mins.


going to train the rest of the week and then take a full week off next week.......zero training......just beer......boating....and fireworks!!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 24, 2014, 10:53:20 PM
Guys, not to belabor my annoying illnesses, but I think the shingles pain is getting better and oddly enough so is the discomfort from the sciatica. I think I am on the road to recovery and to working on being a buff old man again. Yahoo!

I have no excuse now. My kids included me on a gym membership at a club which is a mile from our house. When I am only up for a workout "light" I will go there and when I want to get serious, I can still go to my old trustworthy hardcore gym which is only about 6 miles away. So here is what I am thinking, if I screw on both these choices, someone should just take me out in the back forty and shoot me.

Time for me to shit or get off the pot! LOL!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 25, 2014, 01:10:58 AM
Guys, not to belabor my annoying illnesses, but I think the shingles pain is getting better and oddly enough so is the discomfort from the sciatica. I think I am on the road to recovery and to working on being a buff old man again. Yahoo!

I have no excuse now. My kids included me on a gym membership at a club which is a mile from our house. When I am only up for a workout "light" I will go there and when I want to get serious, I can still go to my old trustworthy hardcore gym which is only about 6 miles away. So here is what I am thinking, if I screw on both these choices, someone should just take me out in the back forty and shoot me.

Time for me to shit or get off the pot! LOL!

Great News Jay...1 mile away is just what you Need.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 25, 2014, 01:23:05 AM
chest tonight....was going to include biceps but my strained left forearm wouldn't allow me to train them........so chest and cardio only.



hammer wide grip.......one side at a time......what a pump!!!!


then flat db presses


and ending with pec deck........4 sets per exercise.


stepmill for 20 mins.......then treadmill for 20 mins.


going to train the rest of the week and then take a full week off next week.......zero training......just beer......boating....and fireworks!!!!
yes have a break...guaranteed youīll feel better for it
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 25, 2014, 01:30:04 AM
Trained delts and arms today.

Dumbbell press 2 x 8 (bad shoulder. Used light 50lbs dumbbells going all the way down as far as I could in a controlled manner)
Dumbbell laterals 2 x 10
Single arm pulley laterals 1 x 10
Rear delt laterals 2 x 10
Barbell shrugs 2 x 10

Weighted dips 2 x 10 ( went as low as I could. No shallow ego dips for me.)
traditional tricep pushdowns 2 x 10
skull crusher type tricep extention (did one set and my elbow screamed)
rope tricep pushdowns 2 x12

ez bar curls 2 x 10 ( I always use a straight bar. This is easier on my shoulder)
straight bar pulley curls 2 x 10 ( I really feel this. No dead spots on resistance.)
Single dumbbell scott curl 2 x 10

Forearm wrist curls 2 x 20
reverse wrist extensions 2 x 15

Ab wheel 2 x max
Weighted crunch feet on bench 1 x 50 ( I hold a plate behind my head)
Pulley crunches 2 x 25

Ivanko gripper 2 x 20

Drove to a park after and ran 2 miles. Very few milf's running today on the trail.  A real disappointment. Ran two slow 8:40 miles. A bit shot from lifting. Tomorrow is another day. Wish I was getting leaner quicker but I have the worse diet and to compound that I love beer.  ;D

I haven't drank in 6 days. Tomorrow I will have a few cold ones at one of the bars by the bay here and watch the boats go by.



Nothing wrong with a cold beer and i like that what you wrote, "watching the boats go by". Gotta watch though too much of a good Thing is not good. Cut it down to 1x a week...better less but realistically if you like a few beers then you Need to sort your diet out. Very hard to stay lean with too much Beer AND a bad diet.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 25, 2014, 05:43:47 AM
My diet is the worse. Never had any discipline regarding diet. I try somewhat but it's a joke compared to what I hear from other guys. When I was younger I could "out train" any bad eating but now it's a different story. I'm just about 13 pounds from where I want to be but it's proving really hard to get there. I'm 184 and I start to look really tight close to 170.  In my younger days if I wanted to drop 10 pounds I could do it in under 2 weeks easy. Now forever.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 25, 2014, 06:19:40 AM
My diet is the worse. Never had any discipline regarding diet. I try somewhat but it's a joke compared to what I hear from other guys. When I was younger I could "out train" any bad eating but now it's a different story. I'm just about 13 pounds from where I want to be but it's proving really hard to get there. I'm 184 and I start to look really tight close to 170.  In my younger days if I wanted to drop 10 pounds I could do it in under 2 weeks easy. Now forever.
I hear you Man... ;D Iīve noticed recently after running in the Woods the Ball area of my right foot hurts a bit ever had this? Itīs not my shoes or the pathways i run on...maybe iīm just getting old  :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 25, 2014, 07:03:07 AM
I hear you Man... ;D Iīve noticed recently after running in the Woods the Ball area of my right foot hurts a bit ever had this? Itīs not my shoes or the pathways i run on...maybe iīm just getting old  :-\
Sorry, never had pain on the ball area of my foot. I had horrible pain in the arch of my foot for a period. Maybe switch to fast walking for awhile and get a brand new pair of running shoes. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. When I had my plantar fasciitis I found ways to get it to heal but never had problems with the ball of my foot. Actually an ex female member of this board told me how to treat my arch problem.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 25, 2014, 09:41:00 AM
Sciatica causes the bottom of my right foot to go numb. The longer I walk on it the number it gets. An interesting good side effect of the medicine currently taking for shingles pain is that the numb foot has been less numb lately. I'm not sure I could run if my life depended on it these days. I'll stick to the stationary bike for cardio. No impact for me is a good thing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 25, 2014, 09:41:55 AM
did a home gym leg workout today very simple. Went for an hour cycle around town and my legs were nice and pumped with blood.

Squats 5x10-12
Leg extensions 5x10-12
Leg curls 5x10-12

Standing one legged calf raises (no weight) 3xmax  
Seated Barbell calf raises 3x15-20

Seated BB calf raises are awkward at first but when you find the right Position they work well for me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 25, 2014, 09:46:16 AM
Sciatica causes the bottom of my right foot to go numb. The longer I walk on it the number it gets. An interesting good side effect of the medicine currently taking for shingles pain is that the numb foot has been less numb lately. I'm not sure I could run if my life depended on it these days. I'll stick to the stationary bike for cardio. No impact for me is a good thing.
I used to just run for cardio but now i mix it up. Bike is great to. I get a numb foot when i use the cross Trainer but itīs not just me because a few gym members have mentioned this too me. Still i like it. Really saves your lower back and lower Joints.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 26, 2014, 07:58:16 PM
back /traps wed

2 inner 2 wide pullups 12reps
bent over rows  135/185/205/225 sets 10
seated cable rows 'used handles 'instead sm triangle grip.x3
underhand hammer pulldowns x3 2 plates ea side and couple 10's did 1 hand at time ..
finished db rows off rack did 80/90's

shrugs
225/275/295
reverse 3plates and 3.5 x2 sets 12

abs
5 sets 25/30 lying crunch roller machine


thurs delt/bi 'home'

db press
45/50/50/60
seated side laterals 20/30/30/30
db up right rows 'i like these ,,30/45/45
seated rear bent laterals db 30/30/30
seated fr raise hammer position start and twist to usual finish position palms down x3

bis
4 movements giant sets 'pump '
curl bar curls to seated db curls to rope hammer curls to seated hammer concentration curls x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 26, 2014, 10:59:05 PM
BACK:

REVERSE GRIP PULLDOWNS   3 SETS

SEATED CABLE ROWS  3 SETS

PARTIAL DEADLIFTS  3 SETS

HAMMER STRENGTH PULLDOWNS  3 SETS


30 MINUTES TREADMILL
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 27, 2014, 04:25:06 AM


I think tonight i will do ...

BB Standing press 4x
Seated DB raises   4x
Rear Delt machine 4x
upright rows 3x Close grip

Dips OR Close grip bench press 3x
lying skull crushers 3x
reverse grip cable pushdowns 2x will just rep out on These.

Abs: old School incline sit ups twisting 2-3 times reps will be about 20-30 per set.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 27, 2014, 04:30:09 AM
BACK:

REVERSE GRIP PULLDOWNS   3 SETS

SEATED CABLE ROWS  3 SETS

PARTIAL DEADLIFTS  3 SETS

HAMMER STRENGTH PULLDOWNS  3 SETS


30 MINUTES TREADMILL
nice i like it.. just pissed off we have no Hammer machines. i miss them  :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 27, 2014, 07:56:15 AM
Going to train back and chest today in a few. Using this routine. No warm ups listed.

Power cleans 3 x 3 then 1x1 (love bumper plates. I can drop the barbell if need arises and it bounces.)

Pull ups 2 x max
Low cable rows with V handle 2 x 12
Single dumbbell row off a bench 2 x 10
Reverse pull downs 2 x 10

Flat Dumbbell bench 2 x 8
Incline dumbbell bench 2 x 8
flat flies 2 x 10
Push ups 2  x max (one set conventional the next with perfect push up handles)

Stiff leg deadlift standing on a block for full extension 2 x 6
Weighted back extensions 2 x 15 (I use at the time a 25lbs plate behind my head)
weighted flat floor crunches 1 x 50

Yesterday was my birthday and I was poolside with the family with some cold ones. Woke up today and felt like I slept with cotton in my mouth. So dehydrated between running, sun and alcohol. 

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 27, 2014, 09:35:24 AM
DELTS:


HAMMER PRESSES  4 SETS

SIDE LATERALS  4 SETS

REVERSE PEC DECK  3 SETS

DB SHRUGS  3 SETS

20 MINS STEPMILL   20 MINS TREADMILL
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 28, 2014, 01:28:28 AM
Going to train back and chest today in a few. Using this routine. No warm ups listed.

Power cleans 3 x 3 then 1x1 (love bumper plates. I can drop the barbell if need arises and it bounces.)

Pull ups 2 x max
Low cable rows with V handle 2 x 12
Single dumbbell row off a bench 2 x 10
Reverse pull downs 2 x 10

Flat Dumbbell bench 2 x 8
Incline dumbbell bench 2 x 8
flat flies 2 x 10
Push ups 2  x max (one set conventional the next with perfect push up handles)

Stiff leg deadlift standing on a block for full extension 2 x 6
Weighted back extensions 2 x 15 (I use at the time a 25lbs plate behind my head)
weighted flat floor crunches 1 x 50

Yesterday was my birthday and I was poolside with the family with some cold ones. Woke up today and felt like I slept with cotton in my mouth. So dehydrated between running, sun and alcohol.  


HAPPY BIRTHDAY .... hope you had a good one.. i like your workout. I like push ups too at the end of my chest workout with push up bars. in the Gym i use two Dumbbells. push ups are always a great finishing exercise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 28, 2014, 04:39:44 AM
Thanks for the birthday wishes. Yes, push ups are a fantastic exercise to finish chest with. It works the core too. I find I can barely do 20 good push ups after chest and the pecs are on fire after the push ups.

Today is a cardio day. There's a trail by my house that is 4.6 miles from my house and back. I will hit that this morning. The part I don't like about this trial is that it's very isolated and on occasion there are loose dogs. I hate dogs when I'm running. They think you are prey because you are running. One time a pit bull came at me full speed and my heart rate when to instant max. I thought I was about to get mauled. It just ran along side me like I was it's pal looking up at me with a dopey happy expression. Still scared the crap out of me. It so isolated that if you were mugged you have to rely on yourself because there is no one around. I tried running with a small snub nose revolver but it's just to much of a pain in the ass to carry when running.

Wife isn't feeling well but if I get the okay I'm hitting the beach with her after the run.  It's a stunning day here at the Jersey shore. Should be in the low 80's with nothing but sun. Love seeing all the women in their skimpy bathing suits. Just amazing sights to be seen.  It's like going to a shaker bar to see the girls dance except I don't have to tip.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 28, 2014, 06:24:37 AM
Thanks for the birthday wishes. Yes, push ups are a fantastic exercise to finish chest with. It works the core too. I find I can barely do 20 good push ups after chest and the pecs are on fire after the push ups.

Today is a cardio day. There's a trail by my house that is 4.6 miles from my house and back. I will hit that this morning. The part I don't like about this trial is that it's very isolated and on occasion there are loose dogs. I hate dogs when I'm running. They think you a prey because you are running. One time a pit bull came at me full speed and my heart rate when to instant max. I thought I was about to get mauled. It just ran along side me like I was it's pal looking up at me with a dopey happy expression. Still scared the crap out of me. It so isolated that if you were mugged you have to rely on yourself because there is no one around. I tried running with a small snub nose revolver but it's just to much of a pain in the ass to carry when running.

Wife isn't feeling well but if I get the okay I'm hitting the beach with her after the run.  It's a stunning day here at the Jersey shore. Should be in the low 80's with nothing but sun. Love seeing all the women in their skimpy bathing suits. Just amazing sights to be seen.  It's like going to a shaker bar to see the girls dance except I don't have to tip.  
i have been nearly bitten too by Dogs..lol most just react to what they see as a threat. Most iīll be attacked with is a wild Pig in the Woods. if the area is so isolated and dangerous as you wrote i would carry a Piece too does not matter how awkward. Where i live itīs a Dreamy German Stadt. 38 kms up the road Hannover is a different Story.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 28, 2014, 08:35:44 AM
so tonight back + calves

Chinning the bar 3-4 max
Barbell rows 4 sets
Deadlifts reps and sets i will go by feel.
Leg press calf raises 5 sets

Abs : Flat bench leg raises 2-3 Sets reps i will go by feel.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 28, 2014, 09:15:27 AM
happy birthday old timer,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 28, 2014, 09:52:00 AM
so tonight back + calves

Chinning the bar 3-4 max
Barbell rows 4 sets
Deadlifts reps and sets i will go by feel.
Leg press calf raises 5 sets

Abs : Flat bench leg raises 2-3 Sets reps i will go by feel.

great workout Donny!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 28, 2014, 10:31:53 AM
Happy Birthday Old Timer.  Being the mature person you are, you should know to keep hydrated. Drink a beer; then down a glass of water.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 28, 2014, 02:31:44 PM
Thanks for the birthday wishes. Ran 4.69 miles in the heat. Used my GPS garmin watch to track and time the run. Only one other person on the trail for the entire run. A hot chick wearing yoga stretch pants running with her dog. Wife wasn't feeling well so no beach.  :'( Hung out in the pool for hours having cold ones. I'm about as dark as my latin blood can get.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 28, 2014, 11:14:53 PM

hammer wide grip presses   4 sets

lat pulldowns   4 sets

single arm side laterals   4 sets

rope pushdowns    4 sets

concentration curls  4 sets

cybex rotary calf machine  4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 28, 2014, 11:58:10 PM
hammer wide grip presses   4 sets

lat pulldowns   4 sets

single arm side laterals   4 sets

rope pushdowns    4 sets

concentration curls  4 sets

cybex rotary calf machine  4 sets
go for it George ! ;D today i might just go Swimming.. itīs raining and a bit colder so maybe a soak in the Whirlpool is just what the doc ordered... Sundays bore me
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 29, 2014, 11:15:41 AM
go for it George ! ;D today i might just go Swimming.. itīs raining and a bit colder so maybe a soak in the Whirlpool is just what the doc ordered... Sundays bore me
I love the whirlpool!!!!!


nothing better than a good soak!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 29, 2014, 12:47:47 PM
I love the whirlpool!!!!!


nothing better than a good soak!!!
was good .... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 29, 2014, 05:53:56 PM
was good .... ;D
8)

legs
superset leg extensions with squats  175/190/205/240...135/225/275/315 10x10 rep wise

lying leg sled with walking lunges 200/220/220 ,,80 lbs on shoulders walked i was was pumped and legs were like jelly on lunges

hams
seated leg curl x3
sldl db bells 60/60/80

calves 
seated calf raise x3
standing x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 29, 2014, 06:02:10 PM
Today was leg day. I went in the gym and did leg presses. I felt the exhaustion when I was warming up for my squats. I canned the workout and I feel the guilt of a missed work out. Just shot. Ran in the heat with the sun yesterday then hung out in the sun in the pool for hours. Just need a day off. Tomorrow's another day. Wish I wasn't so pissed off about it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 29, 2014, 10:48:29 PM
8)

legs
superset leg extensions with squats  175/190/205/240...135/225/275/315 10x10 rep wise

lying leg sled with walking lunges 200/220/220 ,,80 lbs on shoulders walked i was was pumped and legs were like jelly on lunges

hams
seated leg curl x3
sldl db bells 60/60/80

calves  
seated calf raise x3
standing x3
nice workout!!! cannolis for fourth of july?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 30, 2014, 02:59:43 AM
bit pushed for time today had an appointment which took longer than expected... so with cardio i just hit chest this morning.

Flat BB press 4 sets
Flat flys 4 sets
incline dB press 4 sets
Incline flyes 4 sets (shoulders feel ok, just careful i donīt go too far back)
2x max push ups

Lying alternate leg V-raises for abs 2x50
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 30, 2014, 06:22:03 AM
nice workout!!! cannolis for fourth of july?
LOL.....WE'LL SEE...

204 PAGES NICE JOB DONNY...AND ALL THE CREW HERE .NICE TO BE A PART OF THIS...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 30, 2014, 06:49:47 AM
LOL.....WE'LL SEE...

204 PAGES NICE JOB DONNY...AND ALL THE CREW HERE .NICE TO BE A PART OF THIS...
Top guys and gals.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 30, 2014, 08:17:06 AM
some day we will all meet over some veal and carlo rossi.......then we will smoke cigars with Dean Martin and Sinatra playing in the background!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 30, 2014, 08:27:28 AM
some day we will all meet over some veal and carlo rossi.......then we will smoke cigars with Dean Martin and Sinatra playing in the background!
I'M ALL ABOARD UNTIL THE CARLO ROSSI ,I'LL USE THAT FOR VINEGAR ON MY SALAD  ;D....I HAVE $$$ WINE TASTE BUDS LOL...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on June 30, 2014, 09:06:58 AM
I'M ALL ABOARD UNTIL THE CARLO ROSSI ,I'LL USE THAT FOR VINEGAR ON MY SALAD  ;D....I HAVE $$$ WINE TASTE BUDS LOL...
I know it is not a top notch wine.....but damn it.....it tastes good! ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 30, 2014, 09:11:46 AM
I know it is not a top notch wine.....but damn it.....it tastes good! ;)
8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 30, 2014, 09:59:27 AM
some day we will all meet over some veal and carlo rossi.......then we will smoke cigars with Dean Martin and Sinatra playing in the background!
yeah....can't beat a bit of Frank Sinatra... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 30, 2014, 08:05:57 PM
chest

inc db 50 warm...60/65/70
flat bench 3 sets 8
inc flye 40/45/50
setaed hammer low press 2/2.5/2.5 plates sets 10
cable crossover x3

tris
close bench superset rope pushdowns x3
seated dip machine x3 190/200/210
lying db extensions  25/30/30

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 01, 2014, 09:16:31 AM
chest

inc db 50 warm...60/65/70
flat bench 3 sets 8
inc flye 40/45/50
setaed hammer low press 2/2.5/2.5 plates sets 10
cable crossover x3

tris
close bench superset rope pushdowns x3
seated dip machine x3 190/200/210
lying db extensions  25/30/30

abs
nice Steve iīm going to hit legs later.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 02, 2014, 01:19:03 AM
last nights workout.. I did a warm up on a bike then..

Barbell squats 5 sets
Romanian Deads 5 sets

Leg press 5 sets
seated leg curls 5 sets

calf press machine 5 sets

Crunches on the floor 3x max

very simple and Romanian Deads i have not done for a while.. i feel a pleasant fatigue today in my lower back Region.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 02, 2014, 06:08:39 AM
last nights workout.. I did a warm up on a bike then..

Barbell squats 5 sets
Romanian Deads 5 sets

Leg press 5 sets
seated leg curls 5 sets

calf press machine 5 sets

Crunches on the floor 3x max

very simple and Romanian Deads i have not done for a while.. i feel a pleasant fatigue today in my lower back Region.
NICE WORKOUT,,,MAN I OVERDUE IT'LEG WISE' :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 02, 2014, 06:26:45 AM
NICE WORKOUT,,,MAN I OVERDUE IT'LEG WISE' :P
My legs blow up fast. I remember just doing Reha some years ago doing high rep 45% leg press for high reps and they still grew. Itīs a Family Thing though as my Father was stocky with heavy thighs. You are just a Beast Stevo.. you love pain.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 02, 2014, 06:40:48 AM
My legs blow up fast. I remember just doing Reha some years ago doing high rep 45% leg press for high reps and they still grew. Itīs a Family Thing though as my Father was stocky with heavy thighs. You are just a Beast Stevo.. you love pain.
LOL... 8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 02, 2014, 06:44:36 AM
LOL... 8)
would you not be better doing a 5 Day split , one Body part a Day.You love volume and could really Blast it all. Arms for example could be hit enough at home if you have not the time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 02, 2014, 07:28:54 AM
would you not be better doing a 5 Day split , one Body part a Day.You love volume and could really Blast it all. Arms for example could be hit enough at home if you have not the time.
ARMS AT HOME WOULD WORK...I HAVE ENOUGH THERE..I NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT AROUND WIFES SCHEDULE SHE WORKS NITES 'NURSE'
MON CHEST/ABS
TUES OFF
WED BACK/ABS
THUS DELT/CALVES/FOREARMS
FRI OFF
SAT ARMS HOME OR FOREARMS HERE ..
SUN LEGS..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 02, 2014, 07:34:29 AM
ARMS AT HOME WOULD WORK...I HAVE ENOUGH THERE..I NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT AROUND WIFES SCHEDULE SHE WORKS NITES 'NURSE'
MON CHEST/ABS
TUES OFF
WED BACK/ABS
THUS DELT/CALVES/FOREARMS
FRI OFF
SAT ARMS HOME OR FOREARMS HERE ..
SUN LEGS..
I think that would work for you. I Need more time off between arms and chest/back. i like the Day off though between chest/back.  i decided to do chest then legs give my upper Body a full rest.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 02, 2014, 08:15:03 PM
back
pullups wide x2 inner side grip x2 sets 12
tbar row pad to chest stand up version  'wide'..2 plates/2 plates &10,2.5 x10
low cable pully rows single handle grips done together x3
hammer underhanded pulldowns 2 plates and loose change x3
under handed tbar front loaded close grip 2.5/3 plates /3 plates sets 10

weighted hypers x3 sets 12

bi's
seated curl machine 'scott curl'x3
curl bar curls premade 70/80/80 bottom to midpoint sets 10
hammer culrs x2
cable single arm curls x3

abs
5 sets 25-30
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 03, 2014, 08:14:36 AM
back
pullups wide x2 inner side grip x2 sets 12
tbar row pad to chest stand up version  'wide'..2 plates/2 plates &10,2.5 x10
low cable pully rows single handle grips done together x3
hammer underhanded pulldowns 2 plates and loose change x3
under handed tbar front loaded close grip 2.5/3 plates /3 plates sets 10

weighted hypers x3 sets 12

bi's
seated curl machine 'scott curl'x3
curl bar curls premade 70/80/80 bottom to midpoint sets 10
hammer culrs x2
cable single arm curls x3

abs
5 sets 25-30
Do you find Stiff deads/Romanian Deads and hypers better than just doing Deadlifts ? With your back and legs you could lift a good weight. I know you Zero in on muscle Groups Steve. I know it depends on Ham glutes but still.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 03, 2014, 10:52:29 AM
Do you find Stiff deads/Romanian Deads and hypers better than just doing Deadlifts ? With your back and legs you could lift a good weight. I know you Zero in on muscle Groups Steve. I know it depends on Ham glutes but still.
I LOVE ALL THOSE MOVEMENTS ROMANIAN DEADS ARE SAME AS GOOD MORNINGS?YEAH DEADS ARE LIKE SQUATS LOVE EM OR HATE EM AND FORM IS IMPORTANT,MAYBE I SHOULD..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 03, 2014, 11:09:51 AM
I LOVE ALL THOSE MOVEMENTS ROMANIAN DEADS ARE SAME AS GOOD MORNINGS?YEAH DEADS ARE LIKE SQUATS LOVE EM OR HATE EM AND FORM IS IMPORTANT,MAYBE I SHOULD..
yes all good . Just different engagement  in the muscles. Both great .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 04, 2014, 05:31:48 AM
I will do Back tonight ..

Close grip chins 4-5 sets
BB Rows 3-4 sets
Seated Close grip rows 3-4 sets
straight arm BB Pullovers 3-4 sets ( i really like BB Pullovers)

The last 2 exercises i think iīll superset them see how i feel. Doing Pullovers first then Close grip rowing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on July 04, 2014, 06:39:44 AM
I am allowed to train again but only every few days and with very light weights in the range of 10  to 45 or so pounds for free weights and up to 100 pounds on such things as the lat pulldown machine and machine bench press. 

Four sets of 15 reps on lat pulldown.

Four sets of 15 reps on Smith machine rows.

Four sets of one arm DB rows, 15 reps each set/arm.

Four sets of curls with a straight bar.

Four sets of Scott ( ;D) bench curls, 15 reps each set.

Four sets each direction of cable wrist curls for forearms, 15 to 20 reps each set.

That was it on Tuesday and today I can train again and will do chest, shoulders and triceps.  My bodyweight has gone down about 40 pounds now and I will continue to drop down as required by my doctors.  Fun times, indeed.

I thought hard about writing this up here as the sets and weights are humiliating (not that I was ever super strong, mind you) but realized that my acceptance of being mortal again is perhaps an important component of my well being.  I am now 57 and still plan on being fit for as long as I live.  I look to one of my childhood heroes for inspiration, Dave Draper.  Still fit in his 70s.  If he can do it, so can we all.

Thanks gentlemen!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 04, 2014, 06:43:47 AM
I am allowed to train again but only every few days and with very light weights in the range of 10  to 45 or so pounds for free weights and up to 100 pounds on such things as the lat pulldown machine and machine bench press. 

Four sets of 15 reps on lat pulldown.

Four sets of 15 reps on Smith machine rows.

Four sets of one arm DB rows, 15 reps each set/arm.

Four sets of curls with a straight bar.

Four sets of Scott ( ;D) bench curls, 15 reps each set.

Four sets each direction of cable wrist curls for forearms, 15 to 20 reps each set.

That was it on Tuesday and today I can train again and will do chest, shoulders and triceps.  My bodyweight has gone down about 40 pounds now and I will continue to drop down as required by my doctors.  Fun times, indeed.

I thought hard about writing this up here as the sets and weights are humiliating (not that I was ever super strong, mind you) but realized that my acceptance of being mortal again is perhaps an important component of my well being.  I am now 57 and still plan on being fit for as long as I live.  I look to one of my childhood heroes for inspiration, Dave Draper.  Still fit in his 70s.  If he can do it, so can we all.

Thanks gentlemen!
Good to see you back  :) Yeah Dave Draper is a cool Guy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on July 04, 2014, 07:15:59 AM
Good to see you back  :) Yeah Dave Draper is a cool Guy.

Thanks!  I've been training consistently for nearly forty years with layoffs for illness/injury only.  I've met Dave and he is indeed, a great guy. His wife I have only spoken with, but she is a sweetheart of a woman and they compliment on another well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 04, 2014, 07:22:58 AM
Thanks!  I've been training consistently for nearly forty years with layoffs for illness/injury only.  I've met Dave and he is indeed, a great guy. His wife I have only spoken with, but she is a sweetheart of a woman and they compliment on another well.
your workout Looks fine to me. Are you Training everything 2x a week old School style or once a week. i take it once a week as you wrote you will Train every few Days. Long time 40 years, bet you have seen some cool things along the way. would be great to hear a few stories.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on July 04, 2014, 07:32:56 AM
your workout Looks fine to me. Are you Training everything 2x a week old School style or once a week. i take it once a week as you wrote you will Train every few Days. Long time 40 years, bet you have seen some cool things along the way. would be great to hear a few stories.

Right now I will train all body parts once a week.  As for stories, I have a few.  I somewhat resemble Draper and we met at a contest he was judging at the high school I attended back in the mid 70s.  He was of course, much bigger than I especially so his bone structure with wrists that are quite large.  When we ran into one another it was almost like a mirror albeit a fun-house version if you will.  I looked at him in amazement and he looked right back at me in terror.

I said, "You look like me!"  His reply was, "I'm older.  You look like me."  My mom used to tell  me we were related when I was around 10 or so, but later told me it was just to give me something to aspire to.  It worked.  I was in Tijuana in the late 70s and got swamped by a crowd of itty bitty Mexicans chanting "Dafe!  Dafe!  Dafe Drapers!"  It wasn't that I didn't have the heart to tell them they were wrong, I don't speak Spanish.

Those guys loved Dave and who can blame them, he really is a fine gentleman.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 04, 2014, 07:54:57 AM
the scott is great guy ,great old stories insight.

delts
seated press machine narrow grips elbows tuck in a bit x4
cable side laterals'change it up'pulled hi as well above delts a bit x4
upright db rows 'digging these lately'30/35/40 sets 10/12 reps
rear lateral raises db 25/30/30/30 sets 10

shrugs lot of trap work today.
close inner grip x3 225/275/295
reverse x2 225/275 x15 reps i like these too..
2 sets db to sides 85/90

i like a classic side chest 'i think i hit well at times  :)...i have maintained some good thickness for someone about to turn 46'not enhanced'no hrt/trt.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 04, 2014, 08:09:59 AM
the scott is great guy ,great old stories insight.

delts
seated press machine narrow grips elbows tuck in a bit x4
cable side laterals'change it up'pulled hi as well above delts a bit x4
upright db rows 'digging these lately'30/35/40 sets 10/12 reps
rear lateral raises db 25/30/30/30 sets 10

shrugs lot of trap work today.
close inner grip x3 225/275/295
reverse x2 225/275 x15 reps i like these too..
2 sets db to sides 85/90

i like a classic side chest 'i think i hit well at times  :)...i have maintained some good thickness for someone about to turn 46'not enhanced'no hrt/trt.
looking Great Steve.. yes looking Forward to Hearing some stories from Scott... ;D so now iīm going to hit my back. itīs warm today.. well warm for me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 04, 2014, 08:35:58 AM
looking Great Steve.. yes looking Forward to Hearing some stories from Scott... ;D so now iīm going to hit my back. itīs warm today.. well warm for me.
yeah x2...todays is july 4th here'independence day'forgot to mention last night tremendous down purs due to extreme humidity and flooding within minutes major hiways blocked off it took me 45 minutes to get close to gym 'its 10 minutes usually'so i get to street i go down to get to block by gym i see water lots  :-\..stupidly i must say i drove through it and 3/4 way in car studders i'm like fuk i knew it too deep,konks out and smoking front and rear pipes'check engine /catalytic failure,studdering,i wait 5 minutes it starts right when this young girl 'not kidding'hot in shorts and tank top says i will help push it  :D...i say thanks i'm ok and it rolled slowly out and i parked for good 10 minutes to clean out it was smoking bad real bad.its running fine today/check engine light off,,its a bmw they are strong cars but all the electronics are fuking crazy in them..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 04, 2014, 08:38:02 AM
yeah x2...todays is july 4th here'independence day'forgot to mention last night tremendous down purs due to extreme humidity and flooding within minutes major hiways blocked off it took me 45 minutes to get close to gym 'its 10 minutes usually'so i get to street i go down to get to block by gym i see water lots  :-\..stupidly i must say i drove through it and 3/4 way in car studders i'm like fuk i knew it too deep,konks out and smoking front and rear pipes'check engine /catalytic failure,studdering,i wait 5 minutes it starts right when this young girl 'not kidding'hot in shorts and tank top says i will help push it  :D...i say thanks i'm ok and it rolled slowly out and i parked for good 10 minutes to clean out it was smoking bad real bad.its running fine today/check engine light off,,its a bmw they are strong cars but all the electronics are fuking crazy in them..
Mate get yourself a Land Rover..  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 04, 2014, 08:46:06 AM
Mate get yourself a Land Rover..  ;D
:P...rovers bad rep in usa...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 04, 2014, 08:48:01 AM
:P...rovers bad rep in usa...
yeah really ? loved cross Country driving in them. Rip through almost anything.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 04, 2014, 08:50:25 AM
yeah really ? loved cross Country driving in them. Rip through almost anything.
i believe it,,rep here is oilleaks/major electrical issues and again depending who was owning them or partnered buissness wise like jaguar same thing british/ford/bmw all involved over the years..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 04, 2014, 08:55:19 AM
i believe it,,rep here is oilleaks/major electrical issues and again depending who was owning them or partnered buissness wise like jaguar same thing british/ford/bmw all involved over the years..
they were good for our purposes. even welded an ACL on the back for laying phone cables and line...all good fun.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 04, 2014, 04:30:31 PM
When I was working I had a brand new company car every three years.  I didn't need a car for myself except to buy a six pack or go to the park for a run. I drove a 17 year old Toyota Tercel. Every time I turned the key it turned on. No repairs outside of brakes maintenance during that time.

It was a wicked down pour years back in Toms River, New Jersey. I came around a curve and the water was deep down this street. There were cars stuck every where. A jacked up pick up truck went through it and the two guys in it yelled at the top of the lungs when they made it. Believe it or not I was pissed at the thought of going out of my way for a detour and I started driving. The car was smoking stream and making a dying sound. I told myself how foolish I was. The motor kept chugging but dying. All of a sudden the water was getting lower and the engine started to come back to life. The guys in the pick up truck just looked like they saw a Kangaroo bouncing a basketball as I made it through. I sold that car to a college kid buying a new car and it's still running perfect. It's about 21 years old now. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on July 04, 2014, 04:35:42 PM
When I was working I had a brand new company car every three years.  I didn't need a car for myself except to buy a six pack or go to the park for a run. I drove a 17 year old Toyota Tercel. Every time I turned the key it turned on. No repairs outside of brakes maintenance during that time.

It was a wicked down pour years back in Toms River, New Jersey. I came around a curve and the water was deep down this street. There were cars stuck every where. A jacked up pick up truck went through it and the two guys in it yelled at the top of the lungs when they made it. Believe it or not I was pissed at the thought of going out of my way for a detour and I started driving. The car was smoking stream and making a dying sound. I told myself how foolish I was. The motor kept chugging but dying. All of a sudden the water was getting lower and the engine started to come back to life. The guys in the pick up truck just looked like they saw a Kangaroo bouncing a basketball as I made it through. I sold that car to a college kid buying a new car and it's still running perfect. It's about 21 years old now. 

Sweet!  Great little cars, those Toyotas.  My sister still has her '74 Corolla. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on July 04, 2014, 06:44:03 PM
Four sets of 15 reps on vertical machine bench press.

Four sets of 15 reps on pec dec.

Four sets of 15 reps DB laterals.

It hurt too much to even try and do shoulder presses with 12 lb. DBs.  Damnit!

Four sets of tricep pushdowns, 15 reps per set.

I wanted to do more and to be even more honest I really miss my H.I.T. training but I cannot risk either right now.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 04, 2014, 07:18:23 PM
4th july fireworks in jersey...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 04, 2014, 07:19:49 PM
more...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 05, 2014, 05:08:29 PM
It was rainy day yesterday for the 4th. They are having the fireworks at the shore here today. We know a great spot where the fire works seem to explode right over head.

Changing things up as I do almost weekly. Trained chest and bicep today. Very disgusted that I can't do any pressing with any serious weight due to my bad shoulder. I just do what I can do but it's almost embarrassing using light weights for pressing. I feel I'm seriously down in the muscle department but I look fit.  :(

After I lifted I  went for 3.1 mile run.  Saw a slightly chubby girl running toward me in a sheer sports bra top.  ;) Made me run with a smile for awhile. Nice boobs has that effect on me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 05, 2014, 06:15:14 PM
leg day'heavy'

hack squats
1 plate warm x20...3/4/5/6..haven't done 6 in a while..reps 12/12/10//7
lying leg sled 200/220/240/260 12/12/10/10
walking lunges x2 80lb bar on back
extensions 205/220/235 sets 12

hams
sldl135/185/235/235
lying leg curls 140/150/155

seated calf raise
3 plates.3.5/3.5/3.5 12-15 slow stretch to top.with heavier weight sets did 8 reps full and 4-5 strtched heel down then came to level position 'cheat or half reps'
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 06, 2014, 01:23:07 AM
4th july fireworks in jersey...
well i hope my Americano Bros had a great time... nice pics Steve. Today i will just go for a run and then just mellow out.. Sundays are Boring...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 06, 2014, 06:00:13 PM
squats   3 sets


leg presses  3 sets


leg extensions  3 sets


unilateral leg curls  3 sets

lying leg curls   3 sets

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 06, 2014, 07:50:33 PM
I did this leg work out today. My leg strength is really down from all the distance running. I did a HIT type workout with no warm up sets listed. I did reps to failure or pretty close. One work set per exercise. I was dripping in sweat. Doing one work set to failure is psychologically very stressful. You know the minute you touch the bar that it's going to be hell. I will stick with this for a short couple of weeks before going back to using multiple sets.

Leg press
Squat
Barbell lunge (I only used 95lbs but went till I was shot)
Upright deep Dumbbell squats
leg extensions
Seated leg curls
Standing leg curls

hanging leg raises
Hip up crunches
Pulley crunches

leg press calf raises
standing calf raises
Leverage standing calf (has a different feel on this Tuff stuff machine)
seated calf raise

Neck work

No cardio today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 06, 2014, 09:58:34 PM
Man oh man, that is a grueling workout right there. Working legs uses all the energy I have which is why I work hams one day and quads on a different day. Calves I can work all day long and they still never grow. -genetics, I guess.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 07, 2014, 12:05:46 AM
I did this leg work out today. My leg strength is really down from all the distance running. I did a HIT type workout with no warm up sets listed. I did reps to failure or pretty close. One work set per exercise. I was dripping in sweat. Doing one work set to failure is psychologically very stressful. You know the minute you touch the bar that it's going to be hell. I will stick with this for a short couple of weeks before going back to using multiple sets.

Leg press
Squat
Barbell lunge (I only used 95lbs but went till I was shot)
Upright deep Dumbbell squats
leg extensions
Seated leg curls
Standing leg curls

hanging leg raises
Hip up crunches
Pulley crunches

leg press calf raises
standing calf raises
Leverage standing calf (has a different feel on this Tuff stuff machine)
seated calf raise

Neck work

No cardio today.
Never got into HIT Training but it still Looks like a lot of work. I think if you cut down on the exercises and did a more conventional Routine youīll recover better... or what Jay said Train Hammies ;D and Quads separate. I doubt that would affect your running.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 07, 2014, 02:50:56 AM
I just did chest at Home...

BB flat bench press 4 sets (used a wider grip today)
Flat Flyes 4 sets
Incline DB press 4 sets
Incline Flys 4 sets
 push up Bar push ups ( Hands slightly rotated inwards)

Abs: double crunches bringing knees to elbows done slowly.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 07, 2014, 03:05:57 AM
alternate v ups I like too...hits it all
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 07, 2014, 05:54:45 AM
Never got into HIT Training but it still Looks like a lot of work. I think if you cut down on the exercises and did a more conventional Routine youīll recover better... or what Jay said Train Hammies ;D and Quads separate. I doubt that would affect your running.

It's only one set of each exercise outside of warm ups as needed. That workout took one hour and it took that long because I had to set up each exercise in a home gym environment.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 07, 2014, 08:22:21 AM
It's only one set of each exercise outside of warm ups as needed. That workout took one hour and it took that long because I had to set up each exercise in a home gym environment.
if it works for you. Would be hard for me to just do 1 set even though you're using high intensity. Each to his own... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 07, 2014, 09:28:29 AM
Believe me Donny I rarely work out with HIT one set anymore. It's just trying to fit it in with running for now. Next week I might change it up.

Just finished this back workout. One set to failure. The reps is number I failed.

Power cleans 3 x 3 reps ( On last rep I jerked it over head)
Dead lifts 1 x 8
Pull ups 1 x max
Low V grip cable  1 x 14
Single dumbbell row off bench 1 x 14
Reverse grip pulldowns 1 x 12
Stiff leg deadlifts off a block 1 x 7
Weighted hyper extensions 1 x 17
weighted crunches 1 x 54

Dripping in sweat waiting to cool off before I go for a 2 mile run in this 90 degree plus heat.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 07, 2014, 09:37:10 AM
Believe me Donny I rarely work out with HIT one set anymore. It's just trying to fit it in with running for now. Next week I might change it up.

Just finished this back workout. One set to failure. The reps is number I failed.

Power cleans 3 x 3 reps ( On last rep I jerked it over head)
Dead lifts 1 x 8
Pull ups 1 x max
Low V grip cable  1 x 14
Single dumbbell row off bench 1 x 14
Reverse grip pulldowns 1 x 12
Stiff leg deadlifts off a block 1 x 7
Weighted hyper extensions 1 x 17
weighted crunches 1 x 54

Dripping in sweat waiting to cool off before I go for a 2 mile run in this 90 degree plus heat.


I like your exercise selection...running in that heat would boil my Scottish blood... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 07, 2014, 09:48:06 AM
I like your exercise selection...running in that heat would boil my Scottish blood... :)

I not positive about this because I too live in a fairly cool climate, but I imagine that eventually our body's adapt to whatever climate were in .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 07, 2014, 10:08:01 AM
if it works for you. Would be hard for me to just do 1 set even though you're using high intensity. Each to his own... ;D
X2,,,IT WORKS FOR OLDTIMER AND HE CONTRIBUTES SOME NICE CHANGES HERE FROM THE NORM..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 07, 2014, 10:24:55 AM
 
X2,,,IT WORKS FOR OLDTIMER AND HE CONTRIBUTES SOME NICE CHANGES HERE FROM THE NORM..
yes I like him ...good guy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 07, 2014, 12:09:58 PM
Going to do some casual laps in my pool now that the weight and running work out is over. I'm the worse swimmer on earth. I expend so much energy to do a couple of laps. Wish I was a smooth swimmer.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 07, 2014, 12:19:41 PM
The basement gym I work out in.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 07, 2014, 12:21:29 PM
Heavy bag that I think contributed to my bad shoulder. I do pull ups here too. That treadmill is my broken TRUE brand treadmill. I miss it. Best treadmill I ever had. I will fix it soon.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 07, 2014, 12:22:30 PM
It isn't as dreary as it looks in these pictures.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 07, 2014, 12:24:10 PM
I have 80 to 100 fixed dumbbells. The lighter ones I make on a table with spin lock collars. I actually can make a 110lbs one but at my age I have no use for it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 07, 2014, 12:26:29 PM
My current treadmill is a Sole. No where near the quality of my True but it works. Currently I only use the treadmill for once a week intervals. I live near the shore and there are just to many great boardwalks to run on now filled with bikini women strolling the boards.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 07, 2014, 12:27:41 PM
I blast satellite radio in the basement. It comes in crystal clear.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 07, 2014, 12:31:30 PM
My squat racks. Those bumper plates are 55lbs each. When I Olympic lift they are so thick they will bounce if dropped. I have enough bumper plates for the limited Olympic lifts I do. I either power clean or use the old fashion split technique. I never in my life could do a squat snatch.  The split gives me all the athletic attributes of the Olympic lift.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 07, 2014, 12:35:22 PM
Great gym....love the old school calf machine. Got all you need ....great
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 07, 2014, 12:41:36 PM
Drum kit too... ;D ;D ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 07, 2014, 12:47:23 PM
Drum kit too... ;D ;D ...

The drums are my son's. When he plays conversation stops and you might as well turn off the tv. It's so damn loud!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 07, 2014, 12:55:23 PM
The drums are my son's. When he plays conversation stops and you might as well turn off the tv. It's so damn loud!!!
your son sounds like a good guy....keeps life in your house.  Does he work out too ? No doubt spots you .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 07, 2014, 12:58:40 PM
NICE SET UP   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 07, 2014, 01:07:13 PM
The basement gym I work out in.

Great space and nice array of equipment. I miss having a basement.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 07, 2014, 03:34:23 PM
chest/bis and cardio:


hammer wide grip presses   4 sets

flat bench db presses  4 sets

pec deck   4 sets


standing ez bar curls   3 sets

seated db curls   3 sets

concentration curls  3 sets

30 mins treadmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 07, 2014, 03:35:22 PM
The basement gym I work out in.
nice basement gym!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 08, 2014, 07:49:04 AM
chest
inc press...135/135 warm was tight front shoulder r/s..165/185/185/195-135
fldb press 60/60/65 with palms rotated turned in at top portion 10/10/7
flat flies superset straight bar pullovers 45/45/45..premade bar 60/70/70 sets 8-10 per set
seated hammer lower press 2 plates /2.5/2.5 sets 12
lower cable standing flyes with decline pushups x3

tris
pushdowns 120/130/140/140
overhead rope extensions x3
reverse pushdowns x3
DIP MACHINE X3

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 08, 2014, 08:03:36 AM
chest
inc press...135/135 warm was tight front shoulder r/s..165/185/185/195-135
fldb press 60/60/65 with palms rotated turned in at top portion 10/10/7
flat flies superset straight bar pullovers 45/45/45..premade bar 60/70/70 sets 8-10 per set
seated hammer lower press 2 plates /2.5/2.5 sets 12
lower cable standing flyes with decline pushups x3

tris
pushdowns 120/130/140/140
overhead rope extensions x3
reverse pushdowns x3
DIP MACHINE X3

ABS
Steve your Tricep workout is a killer because of the the chest workout before it. Dips at the end ? really solid. Even though itīs machine Dips still good. I do my Basic Exercises first, i think you do the opposite doing Dips at the end using assisting muscle Groups to fully punish your pushing muscles.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 08, 2014, 10:28:33 AM
Worked delt and triceps today. Staying with one set to failure for now. Right shoulder just feels destroyed. It makes pop corn noise along with the pain.

Press behind neck 1 x 8 (had to warm up a lot.)
Dumbbell press 1 x 9 (I went all the way down. No upper arm parallel to the floor half presses)
Dumbbell laterals 1 x 14
Single arm d ring pulley lateral 1 x 12
Rear delt laterals 1 x 15
Barbell shrugs 1 x 12

Weighted dips 1 x 9 ( went really deep stretching everything. Used a 25lbs plate. Could have used a lot more if I went shallow.)
Traditional straight bar pushdowns 1 x 15
Rope pushdows 1 x 15
Reverse D ring pulley tricep 1 x 14

weighted crunches feet on a bench 1 x 50
Pulley crunches 1 x 35 ( I sit reverse in a lat pull down machine. Using a V bar I do seated crunches. Very effective movement.)

Just a little rant. Doing laundry waiting for a break before I head to the beach board walk for a run. It's so damn hot out. Never feared heat exhaustion in my younger years but I know I'm playing with fire at my age. Just been hearing a lot about in shape guys I use to work with who are in their 40's, 50's and 60's dropping dead working out lately. I know of 4 in the past 5 years. One played division I basketball and was in his 40's. He went for a run on the board walk and dropped dead. Another went for a run during a lunch break at work and no one could find him. He was found dead on a running trail. Another retired guy became the local high school football coach. He died in the weight room. The last every always talked about what fantastic shape the guy was in. Looked like an Adonis and he had a fatal heart attack. I know exercise has helped more people avoid a heart attack than it has caused.  It's the number one killer of man. If bodybuilders could show off their heart muscle they would train it like crazy instead of walking slow at a zombie pace on a treadmill. Wish me luck in this 90 degree pure sun day here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 08, 2014, 10:37:32 AM
Worked delt and triceps today. Staying with one set to failure for now. Right shoulder just feels destroyed. It makes pop corn noise along with the pain.

Press behind neck 1 x 8 (had to warm up a lot.)
Dumbbell press 1 x 9 (I went all the way down. No upper arm parallel to the floor half presses)
Dumbbell laterals 1 x 14
Single arm d ring pulley lateral 1 x 12
Rear delt laterals 1 x 15
Barbell shrugs 1 x 12

Weighted dips 1 x 9 ( went really deep stretching everything. Used a 25lbs plate. Could have used a lot more if I went shallow.)
Traditional straight bar pushdowns 1 x 15
Rope pushdows 1 x 15
Reverse D ring pulley tricep 1 x 14

weighted crunches feet on a bench 1 x 50
Pulley crunches 1 x 35 ( I sit reverse in a lat pull down machine. Using a V bar I do seated crunches. Very effective movement.)

Just a little rant. Doing laundry waiting for a break before I head to the beach board walk for a run. It's so damn hot out. Never feared heat exhaustion in my younger years but I know I'm playing with fire at my age. Just been hearing a lot about in shape guys I use to work with who are in their 40's, 50's and 60's dropping dead working out lately. I know of 4 in the past 5 years. One played division I basketball and was in his 40's. He went for a run on the board walk and dropped dead. Another went for a run during a lunch break at work and no one could find him. He was found dead on a running trail. Another retired guy became the local high school football coach. He died in the weight room. The last every always talked about what fantastic shape the guy was in. Looked like an Adonis and he had a fatal heart attack. I know exercise has helped more people avoid a heart attack than it has caused.  It's the number one killer of man. If bodybuilders could show off their heart muscle they would train it like crazy instead of walking slow at a zombie pace on a treadmill. Wish me luck in this 90 degree pure sun day here.
OK get the Point..but still look after yourself ...we Need Mature Posters on getbig ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 08, 2014, 02:34:00 PM
back and cardio:


assisted pullups   3 sets

hammer high rows   3 sets

seated cable rows   3 sets

hyperextensions   3 sets

30 mins treadmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 08, 2014, 06:58:33 PM
I faded in the intense heat today. Ran so slow today. Near the end of my run my wife's friend was going on the board walk. Nice mature milf in a bikini.  :P 

Sitting here typing drinking rum on ice. I feel really good now. Tomorrow is a kayak day in the bay. Hopefully it isn't to choppy.  Yes, tomorrow no running or lifting, yes! If anyone is wondering why I have all this free time I am retired. Currently looking for job and not a career just to have a job to report to.  I have been thinking about posting a picture of myself. Not a physique shot but knowing this board I know it will be photo shopped with some porn thing.  I just wonder what everyone looks like and I assume you do too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 08, 2014, 07:39:26 PM
I faded in the intense heat today. Ran so slow today. Near the end of my run my wife's friend was going on the board walk. Nice mature milf in a bikini.  :P 

Sitting here typing drinking rum on ice. I feel really good now. Tomorrow is a kayak day in the bay. Hopefully it isn't to choppy.  Yes, tomorrow no running or lifting, yes! If anyone is wondering why I have all this free time I am retired. Currently looking for job and not a career just to have a job to report to.  I have been thinking about posting a picture of myself. Not a physique shot but knowing this board I know it will be photo shopped with some porn thing.  I just wonder what everyone looks like and I assume you do too.
do what i do neck down...i have lot of pics here,,never been  used in malicious way.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 08, 2014, 09:22:45 PM
do what i do neck down...i have lot of pics here,,never been  used in malicious way.

And what a shame it is that some people are so evil that they'd use someone's innocent photo in a malicious way. Having said this, I encourage anyone talking a selfie or posing for a photo wear something that cannot be construed as being gay, a la me in the gym locker room wearing  orange Adidas underwear. I mean who the heck knew orange undies were gay?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 09, 2014, 01:09:41 AM
I faded in the intense heat today. Ran so slow today. Near the end of my run my wife's friend was going on the board walk. Nice mature milf in a bikini.  :P  

Sitting here typing drinking rum on ice. I feel really good now. Tomorrow is a kayak day in the bay. Hopefully it isn't to choppy.  Yes, tomorrow no running or lifting, yes! If anyone is wondering why I have all this free time I am retired. Currently looking for job and not a career just to have a job to report to.  I have been thinking about posting a picture of myself. Not a physique shot but knowing this board I know it will be photo shopped with some porn thing.  I just wonder what everyone looks like and I assume you do too.
Get yourself a part time Job in the gym .. i remember a while back you wanted to get a Trainer licence...or certification. i also remember you saying you learned Anatomy too in College ? Go for it..Training all the chicks  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 09, 2014, 02:04:06 AM
back and cardio:


assisted pullups   3 sets

hammer high rows   3 sets

seated cable rows   3 sets

hyperextensions   3 sets

30 mins treadmill
nice workouts George. I like your no nonsense approach to your workouts.

I am just hitting a muscle Group a day now. I find it easier time wise and i can get Cardio/Lifting done together. I did legs yesterday because it lets my upper Body rest more and today iīll do back.

Wide grip pulldowns to front 4 sets
Barbell Rowing 4 sets
seated Close grip rows 4 sets
Barbell Pullovers 2-3 sets ( really love how Serge Nubret did These)

Cardio + abs iīll just do what ever i feel like on Impulse.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 09, 2014, 04:23:21 AM
Get yourself a part time Job in the gym .. i remember a while back you wanted to get a Trainer licence...or certification. i also remember you saying you learned Anatomy too in College ? Go for it..Training all the chicks  ;D

I think the majority of personal trainers are just used to confront new people who walk into a gym to sign on for a membership. I don't think there is much personal training going on from what I have seen in the chain gyms. One gym by me makes it mandatory that you have a free session with a personal trainer who tells you for 45 minutes why you can't do it without him. He pushed my daughter so hard she thought she ripped a bicep tendon but it was only strained. When she didn't sign on his whole demeanor changed and he had nothing to say to her. What a jerk.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 09, 2014, 04:56:46 AM
I think the majority of personal trainers are just used to confront new people who walk into a gym to sign on for a membership. I don't think there is much personal training going on from what I have seen in the chain gyms. One gym by me makes it mandatory that you have a free session with a personal trainer who tells you for 45 minutes why you can't do it without him. He pushed my daughter so hard she thought she ripped a bicep tendon but it was only strained. When she didn't sign on his whole demeanor changed and he had nothing to say to her. What a jerk.
I know what you are saying. from my experience itīs better to work in a privately owned Gym. Most owners are older and have experience. Sure having sunny Boy Trainers is what Fitness chains want. We do a Training session with People too but luckily we have a good mixture of Young and older Trainers. We have only one Guy who works with us who i would throw out, not just my opinion. I saw a Young guy doing a weird cross between upright rows and Barbell rows one Day(not even Close to a Yates row ;D).. i asked him what he was trying to do. this "Trainer" showed him a Barbell Row but it was just painful to watch. Of course i showed him the Correct way. Problem is some of These guys just do a "B" licence here in Germany.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 09, 2014, 02:22:55 PM
nice workouts George. I like your no nonsense approach to your workouts.

I am just hitting a muscle Group a day now. I find it easier time wise and i can get Cardio/Lifting done together. I did legs yesterday because it lets my upper Body rest more and today iīll do back.

Wide grip pulldowns to front 4 sets
Barbell Rowing 4 sets
seated Close grip rows 4 sets
Barbell Pullovers 2-3 sets ( really love how Serge Nubret did These)

Cardio + abs iīll just do what ever i feel like on Impulse.

I would do cardio in the morning on an empty stomach.....but I am not a morning person and the gym is so terribly busy in the am.

so I just get a quick 30 or so minutes in after the weights......I dig your workout style too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 09, 2014, 02:40:25 PM
nice workouts George. I like your no nonsense approach to your workouts.

I am just hitting a muscle Group a day now. I find it easier time wise and i can get Cardio/Lifting done together. I did legs yesterday because it lets my upper Body rest more and today iīll do back.

Wide grip pulldowns to front 4 sets
Barbell Rowing 4 sets
seated Close grip rows 4 sets
Barbell Pullovers 2-3 sets ( really love how Serge Nubret did These)

Cardio + abs iīll just do what ever i feel like on Impulse.

nice....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on July 09, 2014, 07:18:44 PM
Went a bit overboard yesterday on back, biceps and forearms.  21 sets of back followed by 10 sets of biceps and 10 sets of forearms.

I am quite sore and expect to be more so tomorrow and the next day.  I felt good so I put more effort into it.  Ouch.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 09, 2014, 08:51:30 PM
back
pullups sets 12 outer x2/inner gripx2
bent over rows...135/185/225/225 12/12/10/10
cable rows seated single handles 'can pullback hold squeeze'x3
behind neck pulldowns x3
tbar row standing chest to pad 2 plates and 2 sets 2 plate &10..reps 10

lower back weighted hypers

bi's
seated curlmachine x4
standing curls curlbar premade 70/80/80
2 sets across body hammer curls db 40/45
cable curls single handles x3

abs
6 sets 25 reps ab crunch roller machine..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 09, 2014, 09:49:08 PM
delts and bis and cardio:

hammer presses  4 sets

single arm db laterals   4 sets

reverse pec deck   4 sets

db shrugs   4 sets


standing db curls   3 sets

flat head machine curls  3 sets

concentration curls  3 sets

20 mins stepmill

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 09, 2014, 11:47:34 PM
My daughter and son-in-law are purchasing a membership to a gym that is a mile from our home. They have graciously included me in the family membership. Thanks. Now I will have absolutely no excuse for not hitting the gym. I mean with a gym that I could essentially walk to and one that is a short drive away, I have no more excuses for not staying in shape. My daughter has been nicely on my case for pretending to be a decrepit old man who can't manage to get his sorry ass to the gym to workout.

I'll keep you all posted as to when I get myself into competition condition. I always imagined I might win a title and earn those elusive blue stars some day if I got into such an old class that there would literally not be any competition left to beat me but damn, dudes are staying fit longer than they used to. I might actually have to put some effort into to being the oldest living bodybuilder to grace a thong on stage....not going to happen.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 10, 2014, 12:25:02 AM
My daughter and son-in-law are purchasing a membership to a gym that is a mile from our home. They have graciously included me in the family membership. Thanks. Now I will have absolutely no excuse for not hitting the gym. I mean with a gym that I could essentially walk to and one that is a short drive away, I have no more excuses for not staying in shape. My daughter has been nicely on my case for pretending to be a decrepit old man who can't manage to get his sorry ass to the gym to workout.

I'll keep you all posted as to when I get myself into competition condition. I always imagined I might win a title and earn those elusive blue stars some day if I got into such an old class that there would literally not be any competition left to beat me but damn, dudes are staying fit longer than they used to. I might actually have to put some effort into to being the oldest living bodybuilder to grace a thong on stage....not going to happen.
Keeping fit is the most important Thing at the end of the Day... Thatīs great that you are included in their Membership... you and the Scott are both an Inspiration to me ! Keep Pumpin !! ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 10, 2014, 08:37:49 AM
delts
side cable lateral'no handle use cable only'x5
cable up rights single handles'at top pull handles up/out'x3
rear pec deck rear laterals x3
curlbar front raise underhanded x3
behind neck press x3'nice finish'

shrugs
185/235/275/315
rear shrug x2

forarms
7 sets cable fr and reverse wrist curls

calves
5 sets standing calf raises


try to get good back pics ,,couple angle/relaxed
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 10, 2014, 02:30:04 PM
I did face pulls with dumbbells for the first time, they felt much better than with a rope.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 10, 2014, 11:35:00 PM
delts
side cable lateral'no handle use cable only'x5
cable up rights single handles'at top pull handles up/out'x3
rear pec deck rear laterals x3
curlbar front raise underhanded x3
behind neck press x3'nice finish'

shrugs
185/235/275/315
rear shrug x2

forarms
7 sets cable fr and reverse wrist curls

calves
5 sets standing calf raises


try to get good back pics ,,couple angle/relaxed

You are keeping it real. The last few days I have ventured out into the nether regions of this forum only to find posts which are about anything but health and bodybuilding. It makes me feel really good to come home to the mature thread where I can find real posts by real people who are committed to the "sport' of bodybuilding. It is like coming home from the wars.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 11, 2014, 01:15:36 AM
Today i will do arms and abs

Run about 45 mins

Biceps: Standing BB curl (midrange) 3 sets
           incline DB curls    (Stretch)    3sets
           Non supported Concentration curls(contracted) 3 sets

triceps; Lying skull crushers (midrange) 3sets
            incline bench Tri ext ez bar (Stretch) 3 sets
            One arm Tr pushdown (contracted) 3 sets
Forearms: rev Barbell curls( preacher Bench) 2-3 sets

Abs: Machine crunches
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 11, 2014, 05:58:12 AM
You are keeping it real. The last few days I have ventured out into the nether regions of this forum only to find posts which are about anything but health and bodybuilding. It makes me feel really good to come home to the mature thread where I can find real posts by real people who are committed to the "sport' of bodybuilding. It is like coming home from the wars.
thank you for kind words..i take lifting/eating/very seriously,i want to get the best I can out of my genetics/physique all the time..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 11, 2014, 02:36:05 PM
Trained legs today. No cardio. I must have done something to my neck and trap training chest and biceps yesterday. Feeling pain. My wife works in the office of a chiropractor. I haven't been to one in decades. I told the doc my trap and neck are giving me pain. He sends in this 110lb woman massage therapist in to massage the area. It was a deep tissue massage. Sadly no happy ending. LOL. After the massage he came back and gave my neck a couple twists and I swear I feel better.

Yesterday after I finished my chest and bicep workout I did an interval workout on the treadmill. After warm up I did 8 x 400 meters with a 200 meter fast walk rest interval in between sets. It felt great. I haven't been able to do speed work for a long time due to injuries and almost every 400 meter set I increased the speed. The last lap was in 6:59 mile pace. I know that's nothing special but just being able to do that is a victory for me. Every interval day I hope to keep bringing down my times. Tomorrow I will do a 5 miler but now that intervals are back in my arsenal I feel my times are going to drop quickly when I race a charity 5k road race.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 11, 2014, 02:55:26 PM
Trained legs today. No cardio. I must have done something to my neck and trap training chest and biceps yesterday. Feeling pain. My wife works in the office of a chiropractor. I haven't been to one in decades. I told the doc my trap and neck are giving me pain. He sends in this 110lb woman massage therapist in to massage the area. It was a deep tissue massage. Sadly no happy ending. LOL. After the massage he came back and gave my neck a couple twists and I swear I feel better.

Yesterday after I finished my chest and bicep workout I did an interval workout on the treadmill. After warm up I did 8 x 400 meters with a 200 meter fast walk rest interval in between sets. It felt great. I haven't been able to do speed work for a long time due to injuries and almost every 400 meter set I increased the speed. The last lap was in 6:59 mile pace. I know that's nothing special but just being able to do that is a victory for me. Every interval day I hope to keep bringing down my times. Tomorrow I will do a 5 miler but now that intervals are back in my arsenal I feel my times are going to drop quickly when I race a charity 5k road race.

No happy ending? Lucky for you there was no happy ending since your wife works there and she'd undoubtedly find this out and kill you or at least seriously hurt you.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 12, 2014, 04:05:06 AM
I think this is a good method for us older Trainers. I used this before to spur a muscle Group into new growth. The Volume is low in most workouts and would maybe appeal to guys like Oldtimer because itīs easier on the Joints than Heavy Duty workouts.. while keeping Training time down.
http://www.amazon.com/Train-grow-positions-flexion-muscle-training/dp/0962783447
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 12, 2014, 05:13:33 AM
I think this is a good method for us older Trainers. I used this before to spur a muscle Group into new growth. The Volume is low in most workouts and would maybe appeal to guys like Oldtimer because itīs easier on the Joints than Heavy Duty workouts.. while keeping Training time down.
http://www.amazon.com/Train-grow-positions-flexion-muscle-training/dp/0962783447

I am familiar with Steve Holman's thoughts on lifting. He was a HIT guy and a low set guy forever as reflected in his magazine articles and books.  Now he has changed into a volume guy and said he believes this the right way to train.  He believes in general the use of 4 sets of 10 with short rests in between sets with only the last set closing in on failure. He changed his position from HIT to volume talking to guys like David Young who told him his observations from working out with some of the biggest stars of the classic period of Gold's gym. Young told him about such stars as Danny Padilla who experimented with Heavy Duty but got better results with 5 sets of 12 reps in general with moderate weights.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 12, 2014, 05:51:29 AM
I am familiar with Steve Holman's thoughts on lifting. He was a HIT guy and a low set guy forever as reflected in his magazine articles and books.  Now he has changed into a volume guy and said he believes this the right way to train.  He believes in general of the 4 sets of 10 with short rests in between sets with only the last set closing in on failure. He changed his position from HIT to volume talking to guys like David Young who told him his observations from working out with some of the biggest starts of the classic period of Gold's gym. Young told him about such stars as Danny Padilla who experimented with Heavy Duty but got better results with 5 sets of 12 reps in general with moderate weights.
The material i have is old from him. still the method is good Training a muscle in three positions of Flexion .. Stretch,midrange,contracted. Iīve always done at least 3 sets but he talks of 1-2. Regardless of volume or HIT still good.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 12, 2014, 07:40:28 AM
ok guys on way to jersey shore weeks vaca'old timer knows area long beach island....i will be 46 tomm july 13..see ya soon ....tanned/ripped lol look out milfs,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 12, 2014, 07:59:27 AM
have a great birthday Steve and holiday...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 12, 2014, 08:51:41 AM
ok guys on way to jersey shore weeks vaca'old timer knows area long beach island....i will be 46 tomm july 13..see ya soon ....tanned/ripped lol look out milfs,,,,

Happy birthday! Yes I know the area well. Exit 63 for State Highway 72 east.  Beautiful area full of really expensive real estate. I guess you're renting a house for the week by the beach? Check out the light house and see if your legs are good enough to get you to the top with out breaking a sweat.  ;D Did you know whales have been spotted in the general area 3 years in a row? If you like jazz a really good college group makes summer money in the various restaurants and ice cream palors there. If you want I can find the location, date and time. I know the saxophone player.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 12, 2014, 09:17:12 AM
ok guys on way to jersey shore weeks vaca'old timer knows area long beach island....i will be 46 tomm july 13..see ya soon ....tanned/ripped lol look out milfs,,,,
enjoy your day!!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on July 12, 2014, 09:18:42 AM
arms and cardio:


rope pushdowns   4 sets

assisted dips   4 sets

reverse grip extensions  4 sets

flat head machine curls  4 sets

seated db curls   4 sets

concentration curls 4 sets

30 mins treadmill
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 12, 2014, 09:59:00 AM
ok guys on way to jersey shore weeks vaca'old timer knows area long beach island....i will be 46 tomm july 13..see ya soon ....tanned/ripped lol look out milfs,,,,

Happy birthday brother, and enjoy that vacation :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 12, 2014, 10:04:27 AM
arms and cardio:


rope pushdowns   4 sets

assisted dips   4 sets

reverse grip extensions  4 sets

flat head machine curls  4 sets

seated db curls   4 sets

concentration curls 4 sets

30 mins treadmill
nice George... I was running early this morning. Normaly don't run so early in the day but ya Gotta do it !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2014, 10:36:32 AM
nice George... I was running early this morning. Normaly don't run so early in the day but ya Gotta do it !

If you were here, you'd be out running at dawn. We are in the midst of a hot spell. I'm not regretting putting in central air-conditioning and the mini-split upstairs. Inside the house is an even and pleasant 74 degrees all day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 12, 2014, 01:03:42 PM
Jay I think Alaska is better for me...maybe I'll come back a penguin... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2014, 02:35:38 PM
Jay I think Alaska is better for me...maybe I'll come back a penguin... ;D

Yeah you are just one hot number! (no homo)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 13, 2014, 10:13:40 AM
Ever have one of those days where you just don't want to work out?  I'm lying in bed facebooking and getbigging instead of hitting back. Going to get off now and get that first warm up set over with.  It's a double today. Back and cardio. I hate one set to failure. It's so damn stressful. Two more days of this and I'm going to multiple sets again.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 13, 2014, 10:33:57 AM
Ever have one of those days where you just don't want to work out?  I'm lying in bed facebooking and getbigging instead of hitting back. Going to get off now and get that first warm up set over with.  It's a double today. Back and cardio. I hate one set to failure. It's so damn stressful. Two more days of this and I'm going to multiple sets again.
I just went for a cycle around town today. Lazy Sunday ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on July 13, 2014, 12:00:33 PM
Saw the doc this past Friday and was given the go ahead to up the training (but not the weight).  Sooo...Yesterday I did 21 sets of back, 12 sets of biceps and 10 sets of forearms. 

Will rest today and train tomorrow.  I am trying hard to lose my perma-bulker look (think early Draper but not as massive!) and that will take time.   I feel pretty good today but then I am listening to the beautiful and talented Diana Krall... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 13, 2014, 12:23:39 PM
Saw the doc this past Friday and was given the go ahead to up the training (but not the weight).  Sooo...Yesterday I did 21 sets of back, 12 sets of biceps and 10 sets of forearms. 

Will rest today and train tomorrow.  I am trying hard to lose my perma-bulker look (think early Draper but not as massive!) and that will take time.   I feel pretty good today but then I am listening to the beautiful and talented Diana Krall... ;D

I'm curious, does your doctor work out? A doctor I saw years ago, told me when I was nearing 40 years old that I should give up weight training because I was getting too old for it and do something healthier like running or bicycling. I already bicycled a lot and ran occasionally. That doctor retired and eventually died of heart failure, unfortunately. I took his advice with a grain of salt.

Remember, it is called the practice of medicine, not all doctors have all the knowledge they should to offer sound advice regarding weight training. If you are recovering from an injury or a health issue, your best bet is to simply pay attention to what your body tells you. Whatever you do, do it moderately at first to see how that works out and advance when you and not your doctor thinks you are ready. If you really need advice, talk to a physical therapist or talk with a trainer.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 13, 2014, 12:25:08 PM
Saw the doc this past Friday and was given the go ahead to up the training (but not the weight).  Sooo...Yesterday I did 21 sets of back, 12 sets of biceps and 10 sets of forearms. 

Will rest today and train tomorrow.  I am trying hard to lose my perma-bulker look (think early Draper but not as massive!) and that will take time.   I feel pretty good today but then I am listening to the beautiful and talented Diana Krall... ;D
good you're back in training..nice  to see you here
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on July 13, 2014, 12:30:19 PM
I'm curious, does your doctor work out? A doctor I saw years ago, told me when I was nearing 40 years old that I should give up weight training because I was getting too old for it and do something healthier like running or bicycling. I already bicycled a lot and ran occasionally. That doctor retired and eventually died of heart failure, unfortunately. I took his advice with a grain of salt.

Remember, it is called the practice of medicine, not all doctors have all the knowledge they should to offer sound advice regarding weight training. If you are recovering from an injury or a health issue, your best bet is to simply pay attention to what your body tells you. Whatever you do, do it moderately at first to see how that works out and advance when you and not your doctor thinks you are ready. If you really need advice, talk to a physical therapist or talk with a trainer.

I didn't ask him but in all honesty he doesn't look like he does.  Most people do other things for exercise.  He was kind enough to say I was above average in build at any age but he admits he sees mostly normal people.   I have had doctors in the past (male and female) that I've upset when they upset me.  Example:

"Weight training is unhealthy at your age"...My reply?  "You have to lift a lot just to get out of bed so perhaps you're right!"  I try to be humorous but not always.   ;D  I trust them to do their job and since I am awaiting possible surgery, I try and be attentive to what they're saying.

Try.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on July 13, 2014, 12:30:59 PM
good you're back in training..nice  to see you here

Thanks, brother!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 13, 2014, 12:32:48 PM
I didn't ask him but in all honesty he doesn't look like he does.  Most people do other things for exercise.  He was kind enough to say I was above average in build at any age but he admits he sees mostly normal people.   I have had doctors in the past (male and female) that I've upset when they upset me.  Example:

"Weight training is unhealthy at your age"...My reply?  "You have to lift a lot just to get out of bed so perhaps you're right!"  I try to be humorous but not always.   ;D  I trust them to do their job and since I am awaiting possible surgery, I try and be attentive to what they're saying.

Try.   ;D

What surgery are you waiting on?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on July 13, 2014, 12:38:24 PM
What surgery are you waiting on?

Leg.  Not too keen on it either.  My choice either way and if I continue to feel uncomfortable about it then I will refuse it for now.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 13, 2014, 01:28:15 PM
Leg.  Not too keen on it either.  My choice either way and if I continue to feel uncomfortable about it then I will refuse it for now.

By leg, do you mean knee surgery? A torn meniscus perhaps or just a worn out joint?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 14, 2014, 04:52:11 AM
Saw the doc this past Friday and was given the go ahead to up the training (but not the weight).  Sooo...Yesterday I did 21 sets of back, 12 sets of biceps and 10 sets of forearms. 

Will rest today and train tomorrow.  I am trying hard to lose my perma-bulker look (think early Draper but not as massive!) and that will take time.   I feel pretty good today but then I am listening to the beautiful and talented Diana Krall... ;D

Sorry I am not familiar with your medical situation except for the leg talk. Hope you will be back soon. 21 sets of back is a hell of a lot of sets so I assume your health is relatively okay. Just keep hitting it and if an exercise hurts don't use it even if it was a favorite in the past.

 I bitch a lot because my mind is willing but my body seems really fragile at times. I'm always injuring myself but it goes with aging if you are training like you're in your 20's. I was doing power cleans yesterday and my left hamstring felt like if I wasn't careful it would rip. I felt pain and tightness.

I also noticed my response to training isn't nearly as good as when I was younger. I could literally get into decent cardio shape in two weeks of training when I was younger. 4 months away from running? No problem. I would hit the road hard for two weeks and the improvement was drastic. Last year I ran for about 6 months to be able to run 5 miles faster than a crawl.  Same with lifting.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 14, 2014, 05:31:33 AM
Jay I think Alaska is better for me...maybe I'll come back a penguin... ;D

Would love to visit that state, but damn, I'm not a huge fan of seafood.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 14, 2014, 08:35:49 AM
Would love to visit that state, but damn, I'm not a huge fan of seafood.
only two things smell like fish...and one is fish.. ;)

Today i trained chest..

Incline BB bench press 4 sets
Incline Flyes  4sets
Flat DB press 4 sets
Flat Flyes 4 sets

ABS: crunches 3x max

Went for a cycle at a good Clip about 45 mins. Was good starting with Incline press today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 14, 2014, 11:45:02 AM
I did this work out today. Delt and tris. Hit workout, no warm ups listed. One set to failure.

Press behind the neck 1 x 6 ( went all the way down to resting the bar on my traps like I was squatting.)
dumbbell shoulder press 1 x 10 (all the way down)
dumbbell lateral raises 1 x 12
Single arm D ring laterals 1 x 12
Rear delt dumbbell raises 1 x 14
Barbell shrugs 1 x 12

deep full range weighted dips 1 x 9
tricep pushdowns 1 x 13
Rope pushdowns 1 x 14
Reverse D ring pulley kick backs 1 x 14

Weighted crunches with a plate behind head 1 x 50 (feet on bench)
Pulley crunches 1 x 40

I went for a run for two miles. The humidity was really high. I was sweating like I was in the desert.

Heading to New York City tomorrow for an over night mini vacation. The hotel said they can give me a free pass to a top shelf gym but I'm not working out. I thought maybe just cardio. I have run in Central park in the past but I think this trip is just nothing but pleasure. Seeing a concert in Madison Square Garden. After that I'll hit a bar or two enjoying the night.  


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 14, 2014, 12:31:32 PM
I did this work out today. Delt and tris. Hit workout, no warm ups listed. One set to failure.

Press behind the neck 1 x 6 ( went all the way down to resting the bar on my traps like I was squatting.)
dumbbell shoulder press 1 x 10 (all the way down)
dumbbell lateral raises 1 x 12
Single arm D ring laterals 1 x 12
Rear delt dumbbell raises 1 x 14
Barbell shrugs 1 x 12

deep full range weighted dips 1 x 9
tricep pushdowns 1 x 13
Rope pushdowns 1 x 14
Reverse D ring pulley kick backs 1 x 14

Weighted crunches with a plate behind head 1 x 50 (feet on bench)
Pulley crunches 1 x 40

I went for a run for two miles. The humidity was really high. I was sweating like I was in the desert.

Heading to New York City tomorrow for an over night mini vacation. The hotel said they can give me a free pass to a top shelf gym but I'm not working out. I thought maybe just cardio. I have run in Central park in the past but I think this trip is just nothing but pleasure. Seeing a concert in Madison Square Garden. After that I'll hit a bar or two enjoying the night.  



enjoy the concert and bars ...what concert is it ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 14, 2014, 02:05:57 PM
enjoy the concert and bars ...what concert is it ?

Bruno Mars, he sold out Madison Square Garden two nights in row. I just lucked out and got seats near the front of the stage on the floor of the 20K arena.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 15, 2014, 05:31:09 AM
i will Train legs tonight.

On a leg day i struggle with cardio so instead i do a light cardio session before it now to warm up and get blood flowing. I will do 30 mins cycling(in the Gym) then..
Supersets:

Squats 5 sets
leg curls 5 sets

Leg press 5 sets
Stiff legged Deads 5 sets

leg press calf raises 5 sets

Hanging knee raises 3x max

no leg extensions.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 15, 2014, 12:18:57 PM
i will Train legs tonight.

On a leg day i struggle with cardio so instead i do a light cardio session before it now to warm up and get blood flowing. I will do 30 mins cycling(in the Gym) then..
Supersets:

Squats 5 sets
leg curls 5 sets

Leg press 5 sets
Stiff legged Deads 5 sets

leg press calf raises 5 sets

Hanging knee raises 3x max

no leg extensions.

Doing cardio as a warm up for a taxing workout makes a lot of sense. I think it really works well with leg work because leg work can take a lot out of you, leaving you with no energy for cardio at the end. I usually do cardio before any weight training. I've tried pushing it to the end, but found I tend to skip it then. Another benefit for me is that I find warm up routines boring and have the bad habit of skipping them. Doing cardio first at least get my blood pumping through my body, thereby providing a warm up of sorts.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 15, 2014, 01:40:50 PM
doing cardio before legs is actually better. Think about a viking before a fight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 15, 2014, 09:52:35 PM
doing cardio before legs is actually better. Think about a viking before a fight.

Some light cardio work is fine before legs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 16, 2014, 10:51:35 AM
Going to the Gym and doing back.

wide grip pulldowns 3-5 sets
Low pulley rows(Close grip) 3-5 sets
Machine rows wide grip 3-5 set
Barbell Pullovers 3 sets
Abs: incline sit ups (full sit ups) 2-3 x max

i just go by feel now. one more set if i Need it ..sometimes less.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 17, 2014, 10:23:04 AM
Shoulders +Abs tonight

Seated DB press 3-5 sets
Side raises 3-5 sets
Rear Delt machine 3-5 sets
Barbell Shrugs 5 sets

Hanging knee raises with Crunches.  Cardio Cross Trainer.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on July 17, 2014, 07:48:07 PM
Today, 15 sets of back.  5 sets Smith machine rows, 5 sets pulldowns and 5 sets of t-bar rows.  15 sets of bicep, 5 sets each of barbell curls, Scott curls and finally alternate DB curls. Finished off with 10 sets of wrist curls, 5 sets each direction.

The weight is necessarily (and embarrassingly so) light.  Of late I have done as many as 62 sets in 53 minutes.  All are done in the old "Giant Set" manner with little to no rest between sets of five different exercises in a row for example, for my back or chest.  Fun times indeed!  I still prefer H.I.T, but that requires so much effort/weight for the three or so sets per bodypart that my muscles and joints hurt for over a week later from one workout.   

I am sore now, but not like when I train Mentzer's way.  I have been dieting for the fourth week now, having dropped 20 pounds so far.  Mostly tuna and boiled eggs, ground beef, turkey and roast beef.  Water, milk and iced tea for drink

A friend gave a trial of a pre-workout drink mixture called "Mesomorph" and it actually helps me to train on an otherwise empty stomach, which I normally can't stand doing. 

Anyhoo, that's it for now. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 18, 2014, 01:53:19 AM
Today, 15 sets of back.  5 sets Smith machine rows, 5 sets pulldowns and 5 sets of t-bar rows.  15 sets of bicep, 5 sets each of barbell curls, Scott curls and finally alternate DB curls. Finished off with 10 sets of wrist curls, 5 sets each direction.

The weight is necessarily (and embarrassingly so) light.  Of late I have done as many as 62 sets in 53 minutes.  All are done in the old "Giant Set" manner with little to no rest between sets of five different exercises in a row for example, for my back or chest.  Fun times indeed!  I still prefer H.I.T, but that requires so much effort/weight for the three or so sets per bodypart that my muscles and joints hurt for over a week later from one workout.   

I am sore now, but not like when I train Mentzer's way.  I have been dieting for the fourth week now, having dropped 20 pounds so far.  Mostly tuna and boiled eggs, ground beef, turkey and roast beef.  Water, milk and iced tea for drink

A friend gave a trial of a pre-workout drink mixture called "Mesomorph" and it actually helps me to train on an otherwise empty stomach, which I normally can't stand doing. 

Anyhoo, that's it for now. 
A lot of work you are doing. Giant sets are hard. I like supersets myself for Antagonistic muscle Groups. This is what you meant ? with mesomorph...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 18, 2014, 02:48:23 PM
Trained chest and bicep today. I just upped the weight for chest. My shoulder was grinding and popping but the pain was manageable. I felt good about the workout. I then finished with a 2 mile run on a trial by my house. I didn't see a soul on the trail.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2014, 05:21:35 PM
Trained chest and bicep today. I just upped the weight for chest. My shoulder was grinding and popping but the pain was manageable. I felt good about the workout. I then finished with a 2 mile run on a trial by my house. I didn't see a soul on the trail.

Look like a good place to run. I like that it is shade dappled. It's too hot to run here and the trails near me are more in the sun.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on July 18, 2014, 07:23:53 PM
A lot of work you are doing. Giant sets are hard. I like supersets myself for Antagonistic muscle Groups. This is what you meant ? with mesomorph...


Yup, that's the stuff!   Seems to boost my energy level and as I said I can't stand training on an empty stomach but this stuff seems to do the trick.  I don't know about any ridiculous claims other than the only one my friend gave me and that seemed sane enough - more energy to train.  So far, so good.

I really do refer Mentzer's training methods but as I said, it requires a level of intensity that far surpasses what I am doing now with Giant Sets and dinky weights.   My joints may still hurt, but not like when I go full on berserk with Heavy Duty.  Same with my muscles.  They ache but not for 7 or more days.

I took today off.  Tired from 15 + hour days for a few weeks now but being busy and having a job are blessings in and of themselves.    I hope to train tomorrow before work. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 19, 2014, 01:21:03 AM
I trained Arms last night  doing POF :

Barbell curls 3 sets
Incline curls  3 sets
one-arm DB preacher curls 3 sets (using the opposite side of the bench like spider curls)

lying BB Extension 3 sets
incline ez bar Extensions 3 sets
DB Kick backs 3 sets

2x 50 alternate v-sit ups.

Itīs warm today and my plan is to go running.. i will feel it so i am now drinking lots. maybe it would be better to go for a cycle.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 19, 2014, 01:28:33 AM
Yup, that's the stuff!   Seems to boost my energy level and as I said I can't stand training on an empty stomach but this stuff seems to do the trick.  I don't know about any ridiculous claims other than the only one my friend gave me and that seemed sane enough - more energy to train.  So far, so good.

I really do refer Mentzer's training methods but as I said, it requires a level of intensity that far surpasses what I am doing now with Giant Sets and dinky weights.   My joints may still hurt, but not like when I go full on berserk with Heavy Duty.  Same with my muscles.  They ache but not for 7 or more days.

I took today off.  Tired from 15 + hour days for a few weeks now but being busy and having a job are blessings in and of themselves.    I hope to train tomorrow before work. 

If it helps drink it .. I canīt take all that stuff because of my illness , Colitis Ulcerosa. i would pass it straight out. I canīt even Keep in a protein shake :( My oldest son buys supplements. me iīll stick to good old solid Food. The only fruit i can hold in is Banana but lucky i can drink milk. so itīs old School for me...lol  Banana and milk.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 19, 2014, 08:13:43 AM
was running.. then i hit this Little sand hill. not as steep as i thought but still got me sweating in the heat.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 19, 2014, 08:16:38 AM
hope this is better... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 19, 2014, 09:55:17 AM
If it helps drink it .. I canīt take all that stuff because of my illness , Colitis Ulcerosa. i would pass it straight out. I canīt even Keep in a protein shake :( My oldest son buys supplements. me iīll stick to good old solid Food. The only fruit i can hold in is Banana but lucky i can drink milk. so itīs old School for me...lol  Banana and milk.

What do you attribute having ulcerative colitis to? In reading about it, I found it interesting that there are several possible causes. One is stress, another diet, genetics and autoimmune problems. Alcohol can aggravate this condition as can meat protein. Hopefully, yours is well managed with milder symptoms. At the least, this seems like it would be very inconvenient. At most, it must be extremely painful and debilitating.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 19, 2014, 10:30:07 AM
What do you attribute having ulcerative colitis to? In reading about it, I found it interesting that there are several possible causes. One is stress, another diet, genetics and autoimmune problems. Alcohol can aggravate this condition as can meat protein. Hopefully, yours is well managed with milder symptoms. At the least, this seems like it would be very inconvenient. At most, it must be extremely painful and debilitating.
well i donīt really know...itīs not Diet. Just swallow some of this and iīm good to go  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 19, 2014, 06:22:30 PM
If it helps drink it .. I canīt take all that stuff because of my illness , Colitis Ulcerosa. i would pass it straight out. I canīt even Keep in a protein shake :( My oldest son buys supplements. me iīll stick to good old solid Food. The only fruit i can hold in is Banana but lucky i can drink milk. so itīs old School for me...lol  Banana and milk.

Donny in no way I'm I comparing your health issues with mine but I can understand somewhat. I went through 6 months of stomach issues. Pain and the runs every day. Had upper and lower scopes. MRI and other scans. Blood tests and many doctor visits.  One doctor thought it was a gall bladder issue that the tests weren't picking up. Most of the doctors were useless all prescribing the same drug. Then after six months of losing weight and looking gaunt it went away. Many don't understand how horrible chronic stomach problems are. The awful pain just doesn't seem to go away. For me it seemed I developed a hyper sensitivity to lactose and milk products. How this hyper sensitivity happened is a mystery. Maybe age has something to do with it. By the way the doctors never discovered this but my wife did. She noticed on two different vacations when I stopped protein powder, yogurt and milk my stomach got better. I wish you the best and hope an answer to your issue occurs.

If I could transition into another topic I trained legs today with my one set to failure protocol. In about 5 days after this cycle I'm done with it I think. It's just too brutal. I don't know how anyone can pick 4 exercises a body part and do it to the ragged end of exhaustion and keep doing the program. It's just to mentally and physically draining and even scary. Try it for even a small body part. Warm up with a set of barbell curls with a light weight. Then load up the bar for your real set. Don't stop until you feel like you are going to die doing your reps. Now do three other exercises like that for biceps. It's a sick way to train. Now do it with legs. I thought today I was going to pass out trying to get one more rep in deep full range leg presses with the back board low for a greater range.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on July 19, 2014, 07:01:17 PM
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If I could transition into another topic I trained legs today with my one set to failure protocol. In about 5 days after this cycle I'm done with it I think. It's just too brutal. I don't know how anyone can pick 4 exercises a body part and do it to the ragged end of exhaustion and keep doing the program. It's just to mentally and physically draining and even scary. Try it for even a small body part. Warm up with a set of barbell curls with a light weight. Then load up the bar for your real set. Don't stop until you feel like you are going to die doing your reps. Now do three other exercises like that for biceps. It's a sick way to train. Now do it with legs. I thought today I was going to pass out trying to get one more rep in deep full range leg presses with the back board low for a greater range.

I've done this style of training and while I like it and it can be productive it is brutal.  I am sore for more than a week after doing just two or three sets.    My son refused to train with me when I did Heavy Duty/H.I.T. because of the sheer intensity or as  you say, it is scary.  I would literally collapse after a session of just three sets.  Fun times indeed.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 19, 2014, 08:31:33 PM
I've done this style of training and while I like it and it can be productive it is brutal.  I am sore for more than a week after doing just two or three sets.    My son refused to train with me when I did Heavy Duty/H.I.T. because of the sheer intensity or as  you say, it is scary.  I would literally collapse after a session of just three sets.  Fun times indeed.

I didn't just do three sets. I did one set of each of the following exercises to failure. This is what I did today. A variation of what Yates did.

Leg press 1 set of 15 reps (felt I was going to pass out)
squat 1 x 9 reps (not as deep as usual. Leg presses did me in)
lunges 1 x 20 reps
dumbbell squats 1 x 12 (completely bending my legs)
leg extensions 1 x 20
seated leg curls 1 x 16
standing leg curls 1 x 14

hanging leg raises 1 x 15 (weights on ankles)
hip reverse crunches 1 x 24 (weights on ankles)
machine pulley crunches 1 x 30

leg press calf raise 1 x 25
standing calf raise 1 x 15
seated calf raise 1 x 17

neck work: one set per side

Training with one set to failure is absolutely brutal. I'm taking a day off tomorrow to do cardio. Then on Monday it's back day.

On a side note there use to be a pure HIT gym near me in NJ. A dinosaur  of a gym paying tribute to the spirit of Arthur Jones. It has a full compliment of Med X, Nautilus and even some old plate loading Nautilus relics. The owner is a crazed HIT follower. My job sent me and a couple of guys to work out there because of the owners reputation in the HIT field. He put me through a work out that was so ridiculous many years ago that I questioned how anyone could workout like that on a regular basis? The first exercise he put me on was the leg press. After failing at around 15 he had me do about 5 more forced reps with him assisting. I staggered to my feet and he put me on an exercise bicycle immediately for 2 minutes of sprinting. Next with no rest was Nautilus pullovers. Again after failure there were many forced reps. No rest onto the exercise bike for a 2 minute sprint. I think he had me do 4 weight exercises. At the end he told me to lie down because he thought I was about to faint. When I recovered I told him no one could work out like that on a regular basis. I was a college 440 yard sprinter and I knew what hard work was. The whole work out took about 17 minutes. He said to take 4 days off and to come back. I never went back. I wonder if the place is still there?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 20, 2014, 01:37:23 AM
Donny in no way I'm I comparing your health issues with mine but I can understand somewhat. I went through 6 months of stomach issues. Pain and the runs every day. Had upper and lower scopes. MRI and other scans. Blood tests and many doctor visits.  One doctor thought it was a gall bladder issue that the tests weren't picking up. Most of the doctors were useless all prescribing the same drug. Then after six months of losing weight and looking gaunt it went away. Many don't understand how horrible chronic stomach problems are. The awful pain just doesn't seem to go away. For me it seemed I developed a hyper sensitivity to lactose and milk products. How this hyper sensitivity happened is a mystery. Maybe age has something to do with it. By the way the doctors never discovered this but my wife did. She noticed on two different vacations when I stopped protein powder, yogurt and milk my stomach got better. I wish you the best and hope an answer to your issue occurs.

If I could transition into another topic I trained legs today with my one set to failure protocol. In about 5 days after this cycle I'm done with it I think. It's just too brutal. I don't know how anyone can pick 4 exercises a body part and do it to the ragged end of exhaustion and keep doing the program. It's just to mentally and physically draining and even scary. Try it for even a small body part. Warm up with a set of barbell curls with a light weight. Then load up the bar for your real set. Don't stop until you feel like you are going to die doing your reps. Now do three other exercises like that for biceps. It's a sick way to train. Now do it with legs. I thought today I was going to pass out trying to get one more rep in deep full range leg presses with the back board low for a greater range.
Thanks man... I feel OK most of the time and i just live with it. yes yogurt is another Thing i canīt eat. Still drink now and again a cold beer ;) ha ha .. but no hard stuff. Donīt smoke. Training wise i seem to be able to do most anything. If i feel ill i take time off simple as that.. no Need to cry about it. I have 2 arms and legs so i canīt complain. Interesting reading you and Scottie's Training routines. Volume wise iīm middle of the road. Not as Brutal as Stevo..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 20, 2014, 06:00:48 PM
hey all...nice vacation,,,little stressful with baby going back and forth on beach/rolling in sand'he liked it'keeping eye on girls they love ocean and were boogie boarding for 1st time..water was beautiful'clean/clear''old timer1' knows jersey shore when its on its game...i brought 20/30 lb dbells and pushup handles for quick pump lol otherwise no real training..,,,got pretty good tan..i felt smallish/flat...very ripped tho...i do not walk around with arms flared out or puffed out ,,i feel shy at times being someone my age with kids and most dads there are fat or out of shape skinny/flabby ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 20, 2014, 06:15:33 PM
hey all...nice vacation,,,little stressful with baby going back and forth on beach/rolling in sand'he liked it'keeping eye on girls they love ocean and were boogie boarding for 1st time..water was beautiful'clean/clear''old timer1' knows jersey shore when its on its game...i brought 20/30 lb dbells and pushup handles for quick pump lol otherwise no real training..,,,got pretty good tan..i felt smallish/flat...very ripped tho...i do not walk around with arms flared out or puffed out ,,i feel shy at times being someone my age with kids and most dads there are fat or out of shape skinny/flabby ..

Your tan looks healthy. I know tanning isn't supposed to be healthy, but it usually looks it. All that vitamin D should have you feeling really good too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 20, 2014, 07:08:33 PM
Your tan looks healthy. I know tanning isn't supposed to be healthy, but it usually looks it. All that vitamin D should have you feeling really good too.
thanks jay,,,missed u guys...i peeked on my phone on this thread/and sev's diet thread that one is crazy...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 21, 2014, 01:21:00 AM
We missed you too stevo...looking tanned and in top shape. Break did you good. Yes most guys as they hit 30 are in bad shape...! All the more reason for us to train. Good too because you stay fit for your family. Your girls are proud of you too....I'm glad I had my kids early and now I still am young enough tfo understand them....lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 21, 2014, 04:53:54 PM
For us older guys all you have to do is look at what 99.9% of most 55 year olds look like as motivation to train.  Most guys around that age can't run a mile at any speed. If they can it's a crawl. Many go to the gym and their whole work out revolves around benching and curls. If they have a decent bench they think that shows they are strong and in shape. If I become a trainer I won't let most guys bench so they will direct their energy into the 200 other weight exercises.

Today's work out was back. I caned the workout after 2 sets of power cleans. I just upped the weight to much. On the jerk on the last rep I nearly crashed and burned because I got out of position. Dropped the weight and watched it bounce due to the bumper plates. Just sat there pissed off.  Put on my running shoes and ran a really decent 5 miles.

My two plus weeks of one set to failure is over for now. Going back to multiple sets. One set to failure works but it's psychologically very hard. It's also really hard to load up a bar for that one insane set on the body.

As we get older you have a fine line between training the body and destroying it. Emil Zatopek the greatest distance runner in Olympic history who won Gold in the same Olympics in the 5K, 10K and the marathon said in effect, " The body is like a spring. You push it as in training and it springs back. You have to be careful to not damage the spring."
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 21, 2014, 07:24:18 PM
chest/tri/abs..

inc press...135/135/165/185/185.warmed up 12 reps x2..10/8/8
fdb press palms turned in facing at top 60/65/65..10/8/8
flat flyes superset barbell pullover ...40/45/45 and premade bar 70lbs..
low cable crossover flyes x3
hammer seated press 2 plates and 2 sets 2.5 plates sets 10

tris
pushdowns x4
overhead rope extensions x3
back to pad reverse grip pushdowns x3
2 sets finish db lying skullcrushers

abs
6 sets of 20 seated crunch machine 100ls on stack
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on July 21, 2014, 07:31:35 PM
15 sets each of chest, shoulders and triceps followed by a singe set of machine sit-ups for 50 reps.  Will be gone for a couple of weeks to see my eldest niece get married and no access to a gym.  I may just pull over and lift some rocks!

Now that's Dinosaur Training!

My motivation of late is looking in the mirror at my fat 57 year old physique and eating tuna, beef and pork with very little else every day.  I have been far too long a perma bulker and desire to build a physique that women find attractive and men envy.  I had it when young, but then who among us didn't?

Here 'till Thursday (and then off on a road trip).  Try the veal! 

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 22, 2014, 03:43:03 AM
I'm still a fan of the push/pull split. A bit tired lately (warm summer here), so I decided to put my focus on 3 movements for my push day:

10 sets of deep squats
10 sets of deep machine assisted dips
6(?) sets of standing DB presses
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 22, 2014, 03:51:01 AM
last nights workout was chest.. threw in supersets for a Change of pace.

Incline Flyes 3 sets superset with
BB incline press 3 sets

Flat flyes 3 sets superset with
Flat DB bench press 3 sets

Push up bar push ups 2 xmax
Abs: Hanging knee raises 2xmax
15 sets each of chest, shoulders and triceps followed by a singe set of machine sit-ups for 50 reps.  Will be gone for a couple of weeks to see my eldest niece get married and no access to a gym.  I may just pull over and lift some rocks!

Now that's Dinosaur Training!

My motivation of late is looking in the mirror at my fat 57 year old physique and eating tuna, beef and pork with very little else every day.  I have been far too long a perma bulker and desire to build a physique that women find attractive and men envy.  I had it when young, but then who among us didn't?

Here 'till Thursday (and then off on a road trip).  Try the veal!  


Dinosaur Training Looks good. I think thatīs more Chaosīs Department. Some of it Looks good and it reminds me of when i was a kid Curling an iron Bar outside in the Garden. Puting Black tape over the nozzle of an air pump (for an air bed) i did not know what Isometrics,Isotonics,Isokinetic Training was. I just pushed it and got slow resistance. Good times . you know when i go running in the Woods i see Long logs stacked up by the Forest workers and have thought about doing some squats with them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 22, 2014, 03:56:23 AM
I'm still a fan of the push/pull split. A bit tired lately (warm summer here), so I decided to put my focus on 3 movements for my push day:

10 sets of deep squats
10 sets of deep machine assisted dips
6(?) sets of standing DB presses
Good Workout. 10 sets of squats will blow you up like a balloon ;D and 10 sets of Dips. Got it all there really. shoulders, chest,triceps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 22, 2014, 04:22:16 AM
chest/tri/abs..

inc press...135/135/165/185/185.warmed up 12 reps x2..10/8/8
fdb press palms turned in facing at top 60/65/65..10/8/8
flat flyes superset barbell pullover ...40/45/45 and premade bar 70lbs..
low cable crossover flyes x3
hammer seated press 2 plates and 2 sets 2.5 plates sets 10

tris
pushdowns x4
overhead rope extensions x3
back to pad reverse grip pushdowns x3
2 sets finish db lying skullcrushers

abs
6 sets of 20 seated crunch machine 100ls on stack
I like the flat flys with Pullovers. very interesting. BB Pullovers i like for Lat Training or BB pull over and press for triceps. Nice one Steve.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 22, 2014, 05:32:37 AM
DONNY ALL OVER THIS MORNING IN HERE  ;D,,,SOME GOOD WORKOUTS BRO'S..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 22, 2014, 05:49:54 AM
Good Workout. 10 sets of squats will blow you up like a balloon ;D and 10 sets of Dips. Got it all there really. shoulders, chest,triceps.

There you go, and yes, I feel my chest, tris and thighs. I did everything with the same weight for 10 reps, so it was a bit German Volume style.

It's ok to isolate certain muscle groups, but it takes more time to switch from exercise to exercise and every time you need to zone in. My focus was much better this time :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 22, 2014, 06:02:39 AM
DONNY ALL OVER THIS MORNING IN HERE  ;D,,,SOME GOOD WORKOUTS BRO'S..
Steve youīre my American Bro  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 22, 2014, 06:14:24 AM
There you go, and yes, I feel my chest, tris and thighs. I did everything with the same weight for 10 reps, so it was a bit German Volume style.

It's ok to isolate certain muscle groups, but it takes more time to switch from exercise to exercise and every time you need to zone in. My focus was much better this time :)
most guys i know also do a few sets of "Isolation" work with this. 10x10 is good for maybe 8-12 weeks.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 22, 2014, 06:19:02 AM
what was your rest periods between sets if you maintained the same weight? what was your starting weight ? what % of your max weight did you lift?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 22, 2014, 09:48:09 AM
what was your rest periods between sets if you maintained the same weight? what was your starting weight ? what % of your max weight did you lift?

I counted slowly till 15, so prob 20 sec. I have no clue about my exact rep maxes, since my lowest sets are 8 reps. I've never did this before, so I picked safe poundages. I did 10x155 for the squats, 10x30 counterweight for the assisted dips and 6(?)x35 pound DB's (so 70 total) for the standing presses. Next time I will add 20-25 to the squat and a few pounds to the DB presses.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on July 22, 2014, 08:49:31 PM
last nights workout was chest.. threw in supersets for a Change of pace.

Incline Flyes 3 sets superset with
BB incline press 3 sets

Flat flyes 3 sets superset with
Flat DB bench press 3 sets

Push up bar push ups 2 xmax
Abs: Hanging knee raises 2xmax Dinosaur Training Looks good. I think thatīs more Chaosīs Department. Some of it Looks good and it reminds me of when i was a kid Curling an iron Bar outside in the Garden. Puting Black tape over the nozzle of an air pump (for an air bed) i did not know what Isometrics,Isotonics,Isokinetic Training was. I just pushed it and got slow resistance. Good times . you know when i go running in the Woods i see Long logs stacked up by the Forest workers and have thought about doing some squats with them.

Sounds like an excellent session, sir!

Some of my co-workers gave me a section of telephone pole a few years ago and I would lift, press, carry or whatever with that thing!  It was sooooo freakin' cool but my wife said it smelled awful so...Goodbye to the pole.  I also would do clean and press with a 2 inch bar and curls with either 2" or 3+ " bars.  It got so that my elbows hurt too much with that stuff so I had to stop. 

Another great exercise I used to do on breaks at work was to toss a 3" + piece of brass that was about a foot long several feet into the air.  Back and forth between arms for a hard, fast, intense workout for biceps and grip.  Great fun, believe me.  Later I did the same with a 2" dumbbell in the garage up to 40 or so pounds.  That was over ten years ago.  Damnit!  I hate getting ever more "mature". 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 23, 2014, 02:35:23 AM
I counted slowly till 15, so prob 20 sec. I have no clue about my exact rep maxes, since my lowest sets are 8 reps. I've never did this before, so I picked safe poundages. I did 10x155 for the squats, 10x30 counterweight for the assisted dips and 6(?)x35 pound DB's (so 70 total) for the standing presses. Next time I will add 20-25 to the squat and a few pounds to the DB presses.
yeah another Trainer at the Gym who is middle 40īs does 10x10. he seems to like it. really just the same as 8x8 which Gironda praised..with 15-20 secs rest and not letting go of the bar ;D very tough to do because he said workout no more than 45 mins.  I think the Guy at the gym does a classic 3 Day split  Chest/back..legs...Shoulders/arms.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 23, 2014, 02:44:12 AM
Sounds like an excellent session, sir!

Some of my co-workers gave me a section of telephone pole a few years ago and I would lift, press, carry or whatever with that thing!  It was sooooo freakin' cool but my wife said it smelled awful so...Goodbye to the pole.  I also would do clean and press with a 2 inch bar and curls with either 2" or 3+ " bars.  It got so that my elbows hurt too much with that stuff so I had to stop. 

Another great exercise I used to do on breaks at work was to toss a 3" + piece of brass that was about a foot long several feet into the air.  Back and forth between arms for a hard, fast, intense workout for biceps and grip.  Great fun, believe me.  Later I did the same with a 2" dumbbell in the garage up to 40 or so pounds.  That was over ten years ago.  Damnit!  I hate getting ever more "mature". 
Sounds like you had fun. Remember just experimenting with things when i was a kid. Like a Young Boy fumbling with his first Girl  ;D Was fun just Lifting anything heavy. when i was 15 i did a milk run before School. 5 am i got picked up and drove round streets delivering milk bottles to houses. was quite physical because you had a carrier of 12 bottles in each Hand and had to run with them. The Driver slowed down and you jumped off the back and run. Had handles fitted on the van to hold onto. i donīt think they allow this nowadays. was like fasted cardio and strength Training. was always in shape. no fat just toned up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 23, 2014, 03:53:24 AM
yeah another Trainer at the Gym who is middle 40īs does 10x10. he seems to like it. really just the same as 8x8 which Gironda praised..with 15-20 secs rest and not letting go of the bar ;D very tough to do because he said workout no more than 45 mins.  I think the Guy at the gym does a classic 3 Day split  Chest/back..legs...Shoulders/arms.

Vince G was pretty extreme with his training & nutrition regimens. Every now and then I read his interviews/articles in Ironman magazine (early nineties when it was a good magazine, not that piece of crap it is today). Imagine him on this forum, damn... RIP Vince
I believe that 45 mins has a near perfect volume/intensity balance, esp with short rest intervals.

2 days later... and my pecs, vastus medialis ('teardrop') and hamstrings are pretty sore. Will I perform those 10x10 deads this evening? Not sure yet...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 23, 2014, 05:13:40 AM
Vince G was pretty extreme with his training & nutrition regimens. Every now and then I read his interviews/articles in Ironman magazine (early nineties when it was a good magazine, not that piece of crap it is today). Imagine him on this forum, damn... RIP Vince
I believe that 45 mins has a near perfect volume/intensity balance, esp with short rest intervals.

2 days later... and my pecs, vastus medialis ('teardrop') and hamstrings are pretty sore. Will I perform those 10x10 deads this evening? Not sure yet...
I have a ton of old mag's in basement 87/2000's ..gironda was interesting ,I like bench press to neck at times.ironman/musclemag was great in 90's
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 23, 2014, 05:30:09 AM
i had a pile of mags too Steve...till my wife threw them out ::) loved reading all the articles. lucky i cut out the best ones and still have it all in a Folder. preserved for eternity ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 23, 2014, 05:37:17 AM
I have a ton of old mag's in basement 87/2000's ..gironda was interesting ,I like bench press to neck at times.ironman/musclemag was great in 90's

Wow, sounds like a schmoe's library  ;D
Guillotine presses are a stable in my trainer's chest routine, so my delts are toasted as well at the end of a workout. All chest work is done on flat benches, which is different from my own workouts.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 23, 2014, 05:38:19 AM
i had a pile of mags too Steve...till my wife threw them out ::) loved reading all the articles. lucky i cut out the best ones and still have it all in a Folder. preserved for eternity ;D

WHY?!  >:(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 23, 2014, 05:49:20 AM
WHY?!  >:(
I still have loads of books and Videos ( Videos from the dark Ages) ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 23, 2014, 06:22:58 AM
I still have loads of books and Videos ( Videos from the dark Ages) ;)

That's sweet, but I still wonder why she did that.
Love is nothing without acceptance, and accepting someone's passion is part of that.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 23, 2014, 06:31:23 AM
Wow, sounds like a schmoe's library  ;D
Guillotine presses are a stable in my trainer's chest routine, so my delts are toasted as well at the end of a workout. All chest work is done on flat benches, which is different from my own workouts.
lol...your dutch D.P. RIGHT?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 23, 2014, 07:31:22 AM
lol...your dutch D.P. RIGHT?

Yes, and it's a sad day here. Two planes with the MH17 victims have just been arrived. A woman from my gym -well, the ladies-only branch- is one of them.. :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 23, 2014, 07:48:27 AM
Yes, and it's a sad day here. Two planes with the MH17 victims have just been arrived. A woman from my gym -well, the ladies-only branch- is one of them.. :-\
SAD...Berry Demay was one of my favorites from then by far ,did you ever seem him around or guest posing?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 23, 2014, 08:04:12 AM
SAD...Berry Demay was one of my favorites from then by far ,did you ever seem him around or guest posing?

Mine as well, one of my inspirations when I started training. I saw him 2 times (as guest poser and speaker) during the mid nineties and had a nice chat with him during a local show last year, down to earth & approachable guy.
I've also trained for a short time in the same gym, but only saw Erika Mes, here with Berry de Mey.

(http://forum.bodybuilding.gr/attachment.php?attachmentid=13929&stc=1&d=1278458361)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 23, 2014, 08:27:21 AM
Mine as well, one of my inspirations when I started training. I saw him 2 times (as guest poser and speaker) during the mid nineties and had a nice chat with him during a local show last year, down to earth & approachable guy.
I've also trained for a short time in the same gym, but only saw Erika Mes, here with Berry de Mey.

(http://forum.bodybuilding.gr/attachment.php?attachmentid=13929&stc=1&d=1278458361)
THATS AWESOME..GUY HAD IT ALL AND WAS PRETTY LARGE/BALANCED AND ACTUALLY DIETED EXTREME FOR 88 LOOK WHICH HE WAS PEELED BUT SMALLER THAN 85/87 AND 91/94,,GREAT BBER

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 23, 2014, 08:49:22 AM
That's sweet, but I still wonder why she did that.
Love is nothing without acceptance, and accepting someone's passion is part of that.
my wife is a very house proud woman. Religious too. Sometimes i wonder what the Hell she saw in a Crazy Guy like me. i really do not deserve her i know that.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 23, 2014, 08:51:08 AM
Mine as well, one of my inspirations when I started training. I saw him 2 times (as guest poser and speaker) during the mid nineties and had a nice chat with him during a local show last year, down to earth & approachable guy.
I've also trained for a short time in the same gym, but only saw Erika Mes, here with Berry de Mey.

(http://forum.bodybuilding.gr/attachment.php?attachmentid=13929&stc=1&d=1278458361)
Nice pic.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 23, 2014, 07:00:58 PM
back/bi/abs home training ....very hot in basement soaked

pulldowns behind back 'classic'x4 12/12/10/10
seated lower cable rows x3 short straight bar
standing rverse grip pulls to waist 'slight torso bend/stretch'x3 10 reps per
db rows x3 done both hands together
underhanded close grip pulldowns to front pull to chin squeeze for upper back

bis
curl bar curls x3 set 10
db curls 45/45/45 sets 8/10
seated hammer conentration curls x3
2 sets 8/8 reps close grip curls half up/then top to middle portion

back was pumped/thick 'pic a liitle blurry and reg front shot ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on July 23, 2014, 08:50:23 PM
Damn Steve,you look great buddy.

Should hit up a masters contest.....if you don`t do it,you`ll soon be sleeping with the fishes!  ;D

Seriously,big props my friend.  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 23, 2014, 08:59:18 PM
Steve is one of the most dedicated folks here. I absolutely agree that he deserves all the recognition he can get.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 23, 2014, 09:00:01 PM
Damn Steve,you look great buddy.

Should hit up a masters contest.....if you don`t do it,you`ll soon be sleeping with the fishes!  ;D

Seriously,big props my friend.  ;)
;)..coming from u thats as good as it gets...miss wes here ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 23, 2014, 09:01:48 PM
Steve is one of the most dedicated folks here. I absolutely agree that he deserves all the recognition he can get.
thanks jay,,trying to get your legs ready for a posedwon..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 23, 2014, 10:18:10 PM
thanks jay,,trying to get your legs ready for a posedwon..

I wish I could say I was doing this Steve. I think my legs are atrophying at this point. I have been so lax at hitting the gym lately. All my focus has been on my wife's health and on the remodeling project we are trying to get going on our house.

I committed to spending $150,000 to make this dump work for three generations, so that our daughter and her husband are quilted into taking care of Margie and me when the time comes that we cannot take care of ourselves. As it turns out, raising the money (securing a loan) was the easy part. The project was supposed to commence last Monday. Due to the availability of the flooring we've chosen, it won't start for another two weeks. I suspect I will be in Germany for my granddaughter's wedding at the height of this phase of the remodeling project. Maybe this is a good thing, since my doctor recently diagnosed me with high blood pressure and atrial fibrillation and because remodeling is more stressful than I had imagined.

I am sure my heart would be just fine if I just got my lazy ass back in the gym. I keep hanging out on Getbig because people like you are such an inspiration. The other day my daughter expressed concern because she thinks my health is not what it once was, (she's right about that). At least I am not turning into some fat blob. In contrast, I keep getting leaner. I demonstrated how I could pull my chinos off with ease while not unbuttoning them just this morning. It was kind of a fun demonstration actually....better than having a spare tire hanging over my belt, huh?

Anyway, long reply short, thanks for reminding me that I'd suggested we engage in a leg development contest. You are my motivation. I have not conceded yet. Still hanging in there.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 24, 2014, 03:08:27 AM
Steve is one of the most dedicated folks here. I absolutely agree that he deserves all the recognition he can get.
totally agree Steve is a top guy
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 24, 2014, 05:44:51 AM
I wish I could say I was doing this Steve. I think my legs are atrophying at this point. I have been so lax at hitting the gym lately. All my focus has been on my wife's health and on the remodeling project we are trying to get going on our house.

I committed to spending $150,000 to make this dump work for three generations, so that our daughter and her husband are quilted into taking care of Margie and me when the time comes that we cannot take care of ourselves. As it turns out, raising the money (securing a loan) was the easy part. The project was supposed to commence last Monday. Due to the availability of the flooring we've chosen, it won't start for another two weeks. I suspect I will be in Germany for my granddaughter's wedding at the height of this phase of the remodeling project. Maybe this is a good thing, since my doctor recently diagnosed me with high blood pressure and atrial fibrillation and because remodeling is more stressful than I had imagined.

I am sure my heart would be just fine if I just got my lazy ass back in the gym. I keep hanging out on Getbig because people like you are such an inspiration. The other day my daughter expressed concern because she thinks my health is not what it once was, (she's right about that). At least I am not turning into some fat blob. In contrast, I keep getting leaner. I demonstrated how I could pull my chinos off with ease while not unbuttoning them just this morning. It was kind of a fun demonstration actually....better than having a spare tire hanging over my belt, huh?

Anyway, long reply short, thanks for reminding me that I'd suggested we engage in a leg development contest. You are my motivation. I have not conceded yet. Still hanging in there.
lol..ur a good man/dad/gradndfather,,,that's all u could do..nice job man..my dad turned 71 today....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 24, 2014, 06:15:13 AM
THATS AWESOME..GUY HAD IT ALL AND WAS PRETTY LARGE/BALANCED AND ACTUALLY DIETED EXTREME FOR 88 LOOK WHICH HE WAS PEELED BUT SMALLER THAN 85/87 AND 91/94,,GREAT BBER

'88 was his year with a 3rd placing at the 'O in LA.
Yes, he had it all, almost flawless, just like Bob Paris.

(http://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Bodybuilder-Bob-Paris.jpg)


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 25, 2014, 01:30:28 AM
will do arms tonight..

BB curls 3 sets
Incline DB curls 3 sets
concentration curls 3 sets

Lying BB tri extensions 3 sets
Incline Bench BB tri extensions 3 sets
One arm pulley pressdown (reverse grip) 3 sets

Forearms: Reverse grip ez bar preacher curl 3 sets

Abs: Crunches Superset with Bench leg raises

Cardio: 15 mins cross Trainer,15 mins Bike, 10 mins Rowing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 25, 2014, 01:31:55 AM
'88 was his year with a 3rd placing at the 'O in LA.
Yes, he had it all, almost flawless, just like Bob Paris.

(http://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Bodybuilder-Bob-Paris.jpg)



agree... bob Paris looked great !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 25, 2014, 03:54:02 AM
will do arms tonight..

BB curls 3 sets
Incline DB curls 3 sets
concentration curls 3 sets

Lying BB tri extensions 3 sets
Incline Bench BB tri extensions 3 sets
One arm pulley pressdown (reverse grip) 3 sets

Forearms: Reverse grip ez bar preacher curl 3 sets

Abs: Crunches Superset with Bench leg raises

Cardio: 15 mins cross Trainer,15 mins Bike, 10 mins Rowing.

Sounds like POF (Positions of Flexion) training, smart!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 25, 2014, 04:02:52 AM
Sounds like POF (Positions of Flexion) training, smart!
yes brother. Iīve always liked incline curls. nice Stretch and itīs strict. I guess i was influenced by Steve Reeves at an early Age. He even fitted a bar to the bench to hold his arms perfectly still... or so i read. Makes sense POF because you donīt Need huge weights to fully work the small muscles of the Arms. nothing wrong with heavy Dips and Close grip benches but POF i like.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 25, 2014, 04:08:17 AM
Bob Paris.... great shape.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 25, 2014, 04:16:56 AM
nice old Video of him.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 25, 2014, 07:09:12 AM
paris was awesome...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 25, 2014, 07:19:39 AM
paris was awesome...
nice shape and his posing was not bad too :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 25, 2014, 07:53:49 AM
yes brother. Iīve always liked incline curls. nice Stretch and itīs strict. I guess i was influenced by Steve Reeves at an early Age. He even fitted a bar to the bench to hold his arms perfectly still... or so i read. Makes sense POF because you donīt Need huge weights to fully work the small muscles of the Arms. nothing wrong with heavy Dips and Close grip benches but POF i like.

You mean he pushed his triceps/elbows against a bar during curls?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 25, 2014, 08:08:04 AM
You mean he pushed his triceps/elbows against a bar during curls?
yes he wrote in his book that he attached a bar which he called a rear stop bar. rested of course on your triceps. he also said you should use an off set Dumbell. your Little finger against the inner plates. also in DB flyes he did it different.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 25, 2014, 08:32:23 AM
yes he wrote in his book that he attached a bar which he called a rear stop bar. rested of course on your triceps. he also said you should use an off set Dumbell. your Little finger against the inner plates. also in DB flyes he did it different.

Not sure if I can apply this method in my gym, but I perform them only with one arm at a time in most cases, so I can put more focus on the technique. I also combine a DB with a resistance band and thick bar grip. Those bands and grips are a small but great investment.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 26, 2014, 10:19:56 AM
well i did my good deed for the week today. was sitting in my living room watching TV when i heard screaming so i looked out my Window and saw two guys screaming at each other. Basically i watched it a Moment then i had to break it up as one started to Punch the other guys face in. It was actually two couples and what happend was one pair were cycling on a foot path(both were about 50) and the the other couple took exception to this and the man pushed the other guy off his bike(he and his wife were about middle 60S  :-\ ) He did it to the wrong guy because he got a couple of punches in the face. So like Action Man i sprung over my Balcony and grabbed the guy doing the punching. The German Police came and i disappeared as there were other witnesses there( who never tried to step in or do anything).. i donīt know and These old guys talk about Young dudes... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 26, 2014, 10:40:16 AM
well i did my good deed for the week today. was sitting in my living room watching TV when i heard screaming so i looked out my Window and saw two guys screaming at each other. Basically i watched it a Moment then i had to break it up as one started to Punch the other guys face in. It was actually two couples and what happend was one pair were cycling on a foot path(both were about 50) and the the other couple took exception to this and the man pushed the other guy off his bike(he and his wife were about middle 60S  :-\ ) He did it to the wrong guy because he got a couple of punches in the face. So like Action Man i sprung over my Balcony and grabbed the guy doing the punching. The German Police came and i disappeared as there were other witnesses there( who never tried to step in or do anything).. i donīt know and These old guys talk about Young dudes... ;D
8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 26, 2014, 12:32:08 PM
well i did my good deed for the week today. was sitting in my living room watching TV when i heard screaming so i looked out my Window and saw two guys screaming at each other. Basically i watched it a Moment then i had to break it up as one started to Punch the other guys face in. It was actually two couples and what happend was one pair were cycling on a foot path(both were about 50) and the the other couple took exception to this and the man pushed the other guy off his bike(he and his wife were about middle 60S  :-\ ) He did it to the wrong guy because he got a couple of punches in the face. So like Action Man i sprung over my Balcony and grabbed the guy doing the punching. The German Police came and i disappeared as there were other witnesses there( who never tried to step in or do anything).. i donīt know and These old guys talk about Young dudes... ;D

SuperDon to the rescue!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 26, 2014, 12:43:56 PM
SuperDon to the rescue!
yeah....action man  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 26, 2014, 01:54:38 PM
well i did my good deed for the week today. was sitting in my living room watching TV when i heard screaming so i looked out my Window and saw two guys screaming at each other. Basically i watched it a Moment then i had to break it up as one started to Punch the other guys face in. It was actually two couples and what happend was one pair were cycling on a foot path(both were about 50) and the the other couple took exception to this and the man pushed the other guy off his bike(he and his wife were about middle 60S  :-\ ) He did it to the wrong guy because he got a couple of punches in the face. So like Action Man i sprung over my Balcony and grabbed the guy doing the punching. The German Police came and i disappeared as there were other witnesses there( who never tried to step in or do anything).. i donīt know and These old guys talk about Young dudes... ;D

That's some crazy shit right there.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 26, 2014, 02:00:15 PM
That's some crazy shit right there.
I think it's the warm weather...people getting irate...just stupid stuff
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 26, 2014, 02:05:03 PM
I think it's the warm weather...people getting irate...just stupid stuff

Only 77 here today. I'm feeling pretty mellow.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 26, 2014, 04:00:12 PM
I think it's the warm weather...people getting irate...just stupid stuff

A girl in my street had a long lasting orgasm. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who heard that...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 27, 2014, 01:43:01 AM
Only 77 here today. I'm feeling pretty mellow.  ;D
itīs another warm Day here. i will go for a cycle and then later throw some Steaks on the Grill.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 27, 2014, 04:07:15 AM
Went for a run instead .....was hard . Shower then get the grill on
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 27, 2014, 07:29:50 PM
legs

extensions start 175/190/205/235/250
hack squats...3/4/5 plates
lying leg sled press x3
lunges 45 plate per hand up/down/up/down x2

stiff legged deadllifts 135/185/225/225
seated leg curls 165/189/195

calves
leg press x3
seated calf raise x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 28, 2014, 02:58:03 AM
Chest +abs

Parallel Bar Dips 4 sets
Flat Bench flyes 3 sets
Incline BB press 4 sets
Incline Flyes 3 sets

Hanging knee raises superset with crunches (3 sets).
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 28, 2014, 05:06:42 AM
Chest +abs

Parallel Bar Dips 4 sets
Flat Bench flyes 3 sets
Incline BB press 4 sets
Incline Flyes 3 sets

Hanging knee raises superset with crunches (3 sets).

nice, I do 14-17 sets chest avg,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 28, 2014, 09:13:44 AM
My gym recently bought a hard foamroller (black one), which is a blessing for my back/shoulder blades and damn painfull for my quads, great investment!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 29, 2014, 07:39:04 AM
so legs tonight

Leg press 4 sets
 squats 4 sets
Leg extensions 3 sets
Leg curls 3 sets
Stiff legged Deads 3 sets (maybe wait and see)

Leg press calf raises 3-5 set
I might even do some front squats for a Change.. decisions..decisions.. ;D I like doing legs one day after chest to give my upper Body a rest. Doing back direct after chest a day later i canīt Train like i want to. My back and shoulders i feel also from yesterday.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 29, 2014, 07:45:48 AM
Pull day:

Deads, 10x10
Machine assisted pull ups, neutral grip, 10x10
Lateral raises, 5x10
Barbell curls, 5x10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 29, 2014, 07:50:37 AM
Pull day:

Deads, 10x10
Machine assisted pull ups, neutral grip, 10x10
Lateral raises, 5x10
Barbell curls, 5x10
simple and no Messing around i like it. 10 sets of Deads?..Enjoy  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 29, 2014, 07:55:47 AM
CHEST/TRI/ABS NICE PUMP AND NICE SORENESS TODAY

FDB PRESS 55/65/75/80/80-60 5-5 DROP...HAVEN'T DONE THESE IN FEW WKS HEAVY USUALLY 85'S FINISH ,80'S FOR GOOD 8/10 WAS OFF MANAGED 6
INCPRESS...135/155/165/175 -135 DROP
FLAT FLYES 'BEEN DOING THESE STEADY AGAIN FEW WKS'40/45/50
GUILLOTINE PRESS X3'DONNY SPECIAL'X3
CABLE CROSSOVERS X3
17 SETS,,FELT GREAT/PUMP WAS INTENSE

TRIS SUPERSET HARD

CLOSE GRIP BENCH WITH ROPE PUSHDOWNSX3
DIPS MACHINE WITH SEATED EXTENSION X3
REVERSE GRIP PUSHDOWNS X3

ABS
HANGING LEG RAISES X3
SEATED CRUNCH MACHINE X3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 29, 2014, 08:02:19 AM
CHEST/TRI/ABS NICE PUMP AND NICE SORENESS TODAY

FDB PRESS 55/65/75/80/80-60 5-5 DROP...HAVEN'T DONE THESE IN FEW WKS HEAVY USUALLY 85'S FINISH ,80'S FOR GOOD 8/10 WAS OFF MANAGED 6
INCPRESS...135/155/165/175 -135 DROP
FLAT FLYES 'BEEN DOING THESE STEADY AGAIN FEW WKS'40/45/50
GUILLOTINE PRESS X3'DONNY SPECIAL'X3
CABLE CROSSOVERS X3
17 SETS,,FELT GREAT/PUMP WAS INTENSE

TRIS SUPERSET HARD

CLOSE GRIP BENCH WITH ROPE PUSHDOWNSX3
DIPS MACHINE WITH SEATED EXTENSION X3
REVERSE GRIP PUSHDOWNS X3

ABS
HANGING LEG RAISES X3
SEATED CRUNCH MACHINE X3
no wonder you got pumped up stevo.. like the Tri supersets. very intense after your chest workout. I really like incline bench extensions can really concentrate on your tris.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 29, 2014, 08:04:11 AM
simple and no Messing around i like it. 10 sets of Deads?..Enjoy  ;D

I used a belt during the last 3 sets and did some foam rolls before I did those pull ups. My hams are less sore, compared with last week when I also did 10x10 deads.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 29, 2014, 08:06:33 AM
CHEST/TRI/ABS NICE PUMP AND NICE SORENESS TODAY

FDB PRESS 55/65/75/80/80-60 5-5 DROP...HAVEN'T DONE THESE IN FEW WKS HEAVY USUALLY 85'S FINISH ,80'S FOR GOOD 8/10 WAS OFF MANAGED 6
INCPRESS...135/155/165/175 -135 DROP
FLAT FLYES 'BEEN DOING THESE STEADY AGAIN FEW WKS'40/45/50
GUILLOTINE PRESS X3'DONNY SPECIAL'X3
CABLE CROSSOVERS X3
17 SETS,,FELT GREAT/PUMP WAS INTENSE

TRIS SUPERSET HARD

CLOSE GRIP BENCH WITH ROPE PUSHDOWNSX3
DIPS MACHINE WITH SEATED EXTENSION X3
REVERSE GRIP PUSHDOWNS X3

ABS
HANGING LEG RAISES X3
SEATED CRUNCH MACHINE X3

As 4th, that's impressive
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 29, 2014, 08:09:07 AM
I used a belt during the last 3 sets and did some foam rolls before I did those pull ups. My hams are less sore, compared with last week when I also did 10x10 deads.
10 sets will Keep your heart pumpin bet you were sweating in this heat.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 29, 2014, 08:10:48 AM
10 sets will Keep your heart pumpin bet you were sweating in this heat.

Yeah, even between 9-10 PM
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 29, 2014, 08:17:37 AM
As 4th, that's impressive
I was pumped hard by then and they really felt tight 9 reps on last 2 sets died at same point,,i did them cause you and Donny were discussing them/gironda talk...I used to them for a while evry chest workout,work better than inclines I think..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 29, 2014, 08:18:02 AM
Yeah, even between 9-10 PM
I sleep badly when itīs warm. Donīt know how Steve handles it where he is. I mean what we think of as warm is nothing to some parts of the US. I Sound like a real pussy   :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 29, 2014, 08:26:30 AM
anyone do reverse grip benches? even on an incline bench ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 29, 2014, 08:30:38 AM
anyone do reverse grip benches? even on an incline bench ?

there good but you have to be careful and watch form..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 29, 2014, 08:32:34 AM
there good but you have to be careful and watch form..
tried them on a flat bench but incline never. Looks too awkward for me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 29, 2014, 08:37:10 AM
They don't feel natural to me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 29, 2014, 08:41:05 AM
I was pumped hard by then and they really felt tight 9 reps on last 2 sets died at same point,,i did them cause you and Donny were discussing them/gironda talk...I used to them for a while evry chest workout,work better than inclines I think..

Make sure you have a good spotter or perform them in a smith machine.
I don't do them myself since I train alone, but every now and then I visit a trainer.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 29, 2014, 08:47:44 AM
Make sure you have a good spotter or perform them in a smith machine.
I don't do them myself since I train alone, but every now and then I visit a trainer.

u read my mind dp..did them on smith I like them on there,guy I train with was away 40 days for Ramadan he's Turkish,said he would be back on chest day he missed  :-\...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 29, 2014, 08:59:19 AM

u read my mind dp..did them on smith I like them on there,guy I train with was away 40 days for Ramadan he's Turkish,said he would be back on chest day he missed  :-\...

Wise decision. I guess your buddy was still tired, tell him to carb/man up :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 29, 2014, 09:10:13 AM
Wise decision. I guess your buddy was still tired, tell him to carb/man up :D
bigtime....lol...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 30, 2014, 05:09:49 AM
back tonight ..

Wide grip pulldowns 4 sets
BB rows 4 sets
T-Bar rows 3-4 sets
BB Pullovers 3 sets.

Abs: machine crunches  Cardio: Cross Trainer 30 mins interval.
Always felt the Rowing movements are more important than chins. T-Bars iīll do tonight. Have to stick a bar in a Corner and use a Close grip attachment. Still gets the Job done. lower back i trained yesterday with stiff deads.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 30, 2014, 05:30:26 AM
back tonight ..

Wide grip pulldowns 4 sets
BB rows 4 sets
T-Bar rows 3-4 sets
BB Pullovers 3 sets.

Abs: machine crunches  Cardio: Cross Trainer 30 mins interval.
Always felt the Rowing movements are more important than chins. T-Bars iīll do tonight. Have to stick a bar in a Corner and use a Close grip attachment. Still gets the Job done. lower back i trained yesterday with stiff deads.

I LOVE ROWS AND DOING TBAR INNER GRIP AND WIDE BARBELL ROWS HIT DIFFERENT PARTS NICE,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 30, 2014, 05:40:18 AM
back tonight ..

Wide grip pulldowns 4 sets
BB rows 4 sets
T-Bar rows 3-4 sets
BB Pullovers 3 sets.

Abs: machine crunches  Cardio: Cross Trainer 30 mins interval.
Always felt the Rowing movements are more important than chins. T-Bars iīll do tonight. Have to stick a bar in a Corner and use a Close grip attachment. Still gets the Job done. lower back i trained yesterday with stiff deads.


Hard to say..., the contraction is different. I believe that a good back workout has 3 'ingredients'; a chin/pull down, a row and a deadlift/hyperextention. No need to throw a dozen of movements for total development.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 30, 2014, 05:46:49 AM
Hard to say..., the contraction is different. I believe that a good back workout has 3 'ingredients'; a chin/pull down, a row and a deadlift/hyperextention. No need to throw a dozen of movements for total development.
I START WITH CHINS EVERY WORKOUT..
AND 2-3 ROW MOVEMENTS
AND A PULLDOWN USUALLY REVERSE
ALWAYS HYPERS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 30, 2014, 05:53:50 AM
Hard to say..., the contraction is different. I believe that a good back workout has 3 'ingredients'; a chin/pull down, a row and a deadlift/hyperextention. No need to throw a dozen of movements for total development.
yeah. I know and i have done very simple workouts myself. My workouts are not rocket science because i like you channel my energy on the meat and bones exercises. I do however believe BB rows are the best for thickness and width. Having worked lower back to a degree last night i still donīt have a Problem with rowing 1 day later. I think doing back then legs is worse.  I also love BB Pullovers they really work chest and back. Feel my lats with them more so than with cables. Itīs the concentration, Zane philosophy which i integrate in my Training. really drag the Bar over with my LATS..concentrate and feel it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 30, 2014, 05:54:15 AM
I START WITH CHINS EVERY WORKOUT..
AND 2-3 ROW MOVEMENTS
AND A PULLDOWN USUALLY REVERSE
ALWAYS HYPERS

Sounds good. I start with chins/pull ups as well, since I'm more weak in those movements. This must be my mid-back area, which is like the upper chest; hard to develop... Rows were never a problem and I love hypers as 'dessert'.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 30, 2014, 07:55:45 AM
Sounds good. I start with chins/pull ups as well, since I'm more weak in those movements. This must be my mid-back area, which is like the upper chest; hard to develop... Rows were never a problem and I love hypers as 'dessert'.
Chins are of course harder for most People. the upper back area gets a lot of work too with upright rows/shrugs and rear delt work.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 30, 2014, 08:07:27 AM
Chins are of course harder for most People. the upper back area gets a lot of work too with upright rows/shrugs and rear delt work.

That reminds me to one of my pull workouts from last week: deads, wide pull ups & db upright rows (all 10x10)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 30, 2014, 08:31:42 AM
That reminds me to one of my pull workouts from last week: deads, wide pull ups & db upright rows (all 10x10)
you should YouTube this
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 30, 2014, 09:03:05 AM
you should YouTube this

I guess that routine would be more boring than the average Jay Cutler vid, but hey, should you ever visit the Netherlands, then shoot me a PM (no homo) :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 30, 2014, 09:07:25 AM
I guess that routine would be more boring than the average Jay Cutler vid, but hey, should you ever visit the Netherlands, then shoot me a PM (no homo) :D
i would love to visit you  ;D never been in Holland but passed through a lot
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 30, 2014, 09:12:02 AM
i would love to visit you  ;D never been in Holland but passed through a lot

You never wend to Schreveningen beach? That's a popular destination among Germans, though I wonder why, the North Sea isn't that special.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 30, 2014, 09:19:47 AM
You never wend to Schreveningen beach? That's a popular destination among Germans, though I wonder why, the North Sea isn't that special.
never heard of the place . The Dutch i do like.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 30, 2014, 09:37:33 AM
never heard of the place . The Dutch i do like.

Here's a picture. Unfortunately the pier will be demolished, no investors..

(http://andrerieufans.com/img/images/ineke_wwl/scheveningen1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 30, 2014, 08:43:16 PM
back attack..

chins 2 wide 2 inner sets 12
barb rows 135/185/225/225
low pulley cable rows used single handles but rowed together nice on pull back portion squeeze x3
hammer revers grip pulldowns x3 2plates and 2 sets with added 10
finished cable rope pulldowns standing'pull to waist 'slight bend at waist x3 theses are good

hypers x3 sets 12 holding 45 plate

bis
curls 85/95/105x6 drop 85x6 drop 65x10 nice pump
seated curl machine 'scott curl;stack weighted x3
concentration curls on kness used hammer grip 30/35/35 db i like these
curls with cable single grips done together x3 sets 10

abs
lying ab machine ;non weighted'sets 30 x5
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 30, 2014, 11:33:43 PM
Here's a picture. Unfortunately the pier will be demolished, no investors..

(http://andrerieufans.com/img/images/ineke_wwl/scheveningen1.jpg)
Looks great. Holland is just up the road so i might just visit it. Then again iīll probably end up getting locked up ;D if i do come and visit you iīll leave the wife here... ;) Remember when i worked for baker Oil Tools here in celle we had a couple of Dutch guys there. One was always bringing back weed and offered to get me it.. thanked him but i donīt like it myself. was a good guy. always laughing and joking no doubt stoned most of the time. He was learning Engineering and was a very intelligent guy. wonder if he made it was a likeable guy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 31, 2014, 12:12:20 AM
Looks great. Holland is just up the road so i might just visit it. Then again iīll probably end up getting locked up ;D if i do come and visit you iīll leave the wife here... ;) Remember when i worked for baker Oil Tools here in celle we had a couple of Dutch guys there. One was always bringing back weed and offered to get me it.. thanked him but i donīt like it myself. was a good guy. always laughing and joking no doubt stoned most of the time. He was learning Engineering and was a very intelligent guy. wonder if he made it was a likeable guy.

We have a great infrastructure, so you will be fine, esp with a navigator. Yeah, discussing Getbig subjects while your wife is listening isn't a good idea, LOL
Can't remember how many times I got offered a joint, I hate that smelly crap.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 31, 2014, 12:22:44 AM
We have a great infrastructure, so you will be fine, esp with a navigator. Yeah, discussing Getbig subjects while your wife is listening isn't a good idea, LOL
Can't remember how many times I got offered a joint, I hate that smelly crap.
She does laugh at some of the pics on here... got to  admit the drug Scene was not for me. liked to go out for a drink more( if thatīs any better).. yes i could just see me on that Beach perving at all the girlies while licking my ice cream..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 31, 2014, 12:44:35 AM
She does laugh at some of the pics on here... got to  admit the drug Scene was not for me. liked to go out for a drink more( if thatīs any better).. yes i could just see me on that Beach perving at all the girlies while licking my ice cream..

Mind you, Scheveningen is like Benidorm, it attracts a lot of fat/ugly women ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 31, 2014, 03:25:31 AM
back attack..

chins 2 wide 2 inner sets 12
barb rows 135/185/225/225
low pulley cable rows used single handles but rowed together nice on pull back portion squeeze x3
hammer revers grip pulldowns x3 2plates and 2 sets with added 10
finished cable rope pulldowns standing'pull to waist 'slight bend at waist x3 theses are good

hypers x3 sets 12 holding 45 plate

bis
curls 85/95/105x6 drop 85x6 drop 65x10 nice pump
seated curl machine 'scott curl;stack weighted x3
concentration curls on kness used hammer grip 30/35/35 db i like these
curls with cable single grips done together x3 sets 10

abs
lying ab machine ;non weighted'sets 30 x5
only lying Ab machine we have is this...i just donīt feel my abs with it...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 31, 2014, 03:36:43 AM
only lying Ab machine we have is this...i just donīt feel my abs with it...


Ever tried crunches on a Swiss ball? I perform them with my heels from the floor to create extra instability.

(http://www.build-some-muscle.com/images/Excercise-ball-crunch.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 31, 2014, 03:46:01 AM
Ever tried crunches on a Swiss ball? I perform them with my heels from the floor to create extra instability.

(http://www.build-some-muscle.com/images/Excercise-ball-crunch.jpg)
yes i have done them using a rope and cable, worked ok but i like good old Hanging knee raises and crunches on the floor. Double crunches bringing knees and elbows together. went through periods of no ab Training just letting rowing , deads etc Train it all but when you start crunching again...you feel it. Also like to just tense my abs when sitting. crunches on a ball give you a longer range of Motion.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 31, 2014, 04:44:01 AM
intresting Video. was thinking today about Steves workout with neck presses or "Guillotine press". I think your Hand Position makes a difference inner or outer rotated as well as the plane of movement with say Dumbbells or cables. still .. the best upper pecs i have seen were mostly built with incline BB press and flyes.  A lot of exercises are forgotten too like "dumbbell around the world". 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 31, 2014, 05:07:20 AM
intresting Video. was thinking today about Steves workout with neck presses or "Guillotine press". I think your Hand Position makes a difference inner or outer rotated as well as the plane of movement with say Dumbbells or cables. still .. the best upper pecs i have seen were mostly built with incline BB press and flyes.  A lot of exercises are forgotten too like "dumbbell around the world".  


It's already scientifically proven that you can't change the shape of a muscle, but only its size. Sure, the chest consists of two muscles; the pectoralis major and minor. Can you put more focus on one of them? Sure you can, but will it make a significant difference between those two muscles? Most prob not. When someone is able to improve his upper chest, then the rest of his chest will improve as well, so it's more a global than a local thing.
Take a look at powerlifters. >90% of their chest training is flat bench presses, but many of them have better chests than the average 'gym rat', who hits his chest from all possible angles.
Intensity matters, angles not so much.
Well, that's my point of view :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 31, 2014, 05:10:46 AM
tonight shoulders...

will tri set for a Change of pace.

Db front raises 3-4 sets
Db  side raises  3-4 sets
Db bent over raises 3-4 sets

seated machine press 4 sets with higher reps Superset with BB shrugs.( killer Combo)

seated knee tucks 2-3 sets. seated sideways on a bench bringing knees to chest.


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 31, 2014, 05:25:01 AM
It's already scientifically proven that you can't change the shape of a muscle, but only its size. Sure, the chest consists of two muscles; the pectoralis major and minor. Can you put more focus on one of them? Sure you can, but will it make a significant difference between those two muscles? Most prob not. When someone is able to improve his upper chest, then the rest of his chest will improve as well, so it's more a global than a local thing.
Take a look at powerlifters. >90% of their chest training is flat bench presses, but many of them have better chests than the average 'gym rat', who hits his chest from all possible angles.
Intensity matters, angles not so much.
Well, that's my point of view :)
good post  :) i like your intelligent Input. got to say though my "upper chest" area hurts more after doing incline presses on an angle of about 35 degrees. Itīs like front raises in shoulder Training which i will do later, i know my front delts are blasted with benches/Dips but i want to tri set just working fast front,side, rear.. fry the Delts and then high rep machine press with shrugs. Going more for a pump tonight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 31, 2014, 05:41:23 AM
good post  :) i like your intelligent Input. got to say though my "upper chest" area hurts more after doing incline presses on an angle of about 35 degrees. Itīs like front raises in shoulder Training which i will do later, i know my front delts are blasted with benches/Dips but i want to tri set just working fast front,side, rear.. fry the Delts and then high rep machine press with shrugs. Going more for a pump tonight.

Thank you and likewise! Inclines will def result in more fiber recruitment in the pec minor, EMG studies have shown this. But then again, will it make a significant difference? I think we need to be realistic here. A person like Lee Haney was born with that thick upperchest, so all he had to do was make it grow; the shape was simply programmed in his DNA.

'Relative to the mean activation pattern over the whole pectoralis muscle, the incline bench press with an angle of +45° provides a 69% more intense stimulation to the "upper chest".'

Source http://suppversity.blogspot.nl/2011/07/suppversity-emg-series-musculus.html
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 31, 2014, 05:50:37 AM
Thank you and likewise! Inclines will def result in more fiber recruitment in the pec minor, EMG studies have shown this. But then again, will it make a significant difference? I think we need to be realistic here. A person like Lee Haney was born with that thick upperchest, so all he had to do was make it grow; the shape was simply programmed in his DNA.

'Relative to the mean activation pattern over the whole pectoralis muscle, the incline bench press with an angle of +45° provides a 69% more intense stimulation to the "upper chest".'

Source http://suppversity.blogspot.nl/2011/07/suppversity-emg-series-musculus.html
wrote this before but one of the best books i have ever read was this.. the original i have given to my nephew who has started Bodybuilding. Sport uni Köln
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 31, 2014, 05:55:46 AM
Really Shows with a very thourough study what muscle and which part is most activated. if we are talking General pecs yes flat press. Intresting enough it showed DECLINE press was the most effective. not flat Bench.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 31, 2014, 06:10:11 AM
Really Shows with a very thourough study what muscle and which part is most activated. if we are talking General pecs yes flat press. Intresting enough it showed DECLINE press was the most effective. not flat Bench.

Correct, EMG studies have shown that the decline DB press results in the highest % recruitment of fibers. Decline BP were a strong second. Too bad that wide grip dips weren't measured, but I'm sure they score good as well.
These movements are a staple in my chest training, and -as a nice bonus- they save your delt joints, esp with DBs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 31, 2014, 06:21:08 AM
Correct, EMG studies have shown that the decline DB press results in the highest % recruitment of fibers. Decline BP were a strong second. Too bad that wide grip dips weren't measured, but I'm sure they score good as well.
These movements are a staple in my chest training, and -as a nice bonus- they save your delt joints, esp with DBs.
Dips are  great i love them. when i finish my set and spring off the bars i feel it. hard to describe like a muscle spasm/contraction. gironda Version .. is not for me. Even with a Basic exercise like Dips your Body angle does help make a difference. Leaning Forward does help shift more on your chest.. in my opinion. At the end of the Day you will hit it all. Infact i even feel lats the next day after Dips. Great exercise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 31, 2014, 06:46:45 AM
cool last few posts here dp and Donny about training nice ok,,,

inclines/flyes yes I agree build great chest again like dp said your shape/structure/muscle recruitment on movement is preset by nature

dips,,all around great finisher and superset with flyes or cablecrossovers is great for muscle density

guillotine press,,at time I will favor this over incline press but inc fly I feel is great when done on slow stretch to partial finish 'like not touching dbell but hands about 1 to 1.5 inch apart keeps tension on pecs..

dblateral side raises running the rack to me is best way to get side delts growing worked for me ,delts were flattish and now much rounder /fuller

shrugs hi reps /heavy as one could handle small bodypart and its like biceps reps and burn...i'll add some more later after u guys chime in..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 31, 2014, 07:30:47 AM
cool last few posts here dp and Donny about training nice ok,,,

inclines/flyes yes I agree build great chest again like dp said your shape/structure/muscle recruitment on movement is preset by nature

dips,,all around great finisher and superset with flyes or cablecrossovers is great for muscle density

guillotine press,,at time I will favor this over incline press but inc fly I feel is great when done on slow stretch to partial finish 'like not touching dbell but hands about 1 to 1.5 inch apart keeps tension on pecs..

dblateral side raises running the rack to me is best way to get side delts growing worked for me ,delts were flattish and now much rounder /fuller

shrugs hi reps /heavy as one could handle small bodypart and its like biceps reps and burn...i'll add some more later after u guys chime in..
with DB flyes i always bring the bells together and hold it for a second... like an isometric contraction. i know what you are saying itīs just when i bring my Hands closer together and squeeze i think i get more.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 31, 2014, 07:41:18 AM
with DB flyes i always bring the bells together and hold it for a second... like an isometric contraction. i know what you are saying itīs just when i bring my Hands closer together and squeeze i think i get more.
TRY A FEW FINISH REPS AT MIDPOINT ,YOU FEEL  THE TENSION..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 31, 2014, 07:49:59 AM
TRY A FEW FINISH REPS AT MIDPOINT ,YOU FEEL  THE TENSION..
cheers Steve. your tips are always wellcome. everyone has their Training philosophy but we can learn from each other.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on July 31, 2014, 08:00:36 AM
No training allowed now for a week.  I am also dropping weight  but that is a requirement from the surgeon in the event I opt for getting cut on.  I feel okay but am admittedly GRUMPY
(especially in the G&O section. ;D) from not exercising.  I'm married so no other mode of "release" is possible, LOL!!!!! 

Shoot me.  Please.  ;D ;D ;D 

I shall train vicariously through you gentlemen for the next couple of weeis.  I will be back at it once I see the doctors.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 31, 2014, 08:05:35 AM
No training allowed now for a week.  I am also dropping weight  but that is a requirement from the surgeon in the event I opt for getting cut on.  I feel okay but am admittedly GRUMPY
(especially in the G&O section. ;D) from not exercising.  I'm married so no other mode of "release" is possible, LOL!!!!! 

Shoot me.  Please.  ;D ;D ;D 

I shall train vicariously through you gentlemen for the next couple of weeis.  I will be back at it once I see the doctors.


be well,get well...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 31, 2014, 08:08:33 AM
can only echo what Steve wrote. best wishes.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 31, 2014, 08:35:34 PM
Get well Scott.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 01, 2014, 12:28:55 AM
No training allowed now for a week.  I am also dropping weight  but that is a requirement from the surgeon in the event I opt for getting cut on.  I feel okay but am admittedly GRUMPY
(especially in the G&O section. ;D) from not exercising.  I'm married so no other mode of "release" is possible, LOL!!!!! 

Shoot me.  Please.  ;D ;D ;D 

I shall train vicariously through you gentlemen for the next couple of weeis.  I will be back at it once I see the doctors.



It's your own fault, you deserve it!
















No wait, that would be you on the G&O ;D
Get well Scott!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 01, 2014, 12:49:01 AM
Steve got his blue ones... ;D Nice one Ronald !  well done Steve
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 01, 2014, 07:01:04 AM
Great hammies ;D ex at the 7 min mark. BB hacks too. nice workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 01, 2014, 07:34:16 AM
Steve got his blue ones... ;D Nice one Ronald !  well done Steve
ta,,da,,, 8)  thanx d...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on August 01, 2014, 07:36:09 AM
It's your own fault, you deserve it!
















No wait, that would be you on the G&O ;D
Get well Scott!

Damn right it is!   ;D  When asked by the doctor what should they do if I gave up the ghost on the table I replied, "Leave me.  I won't know and besides if you bump start me too late I might wake up a registered Democrat."   ;D

Yup.  They had a good laugh too.  Was I scared?  Yes.  But there is nothing anyone can do past a certain point and faith can carry me only so far. The rest of the journey is a mystery until I cross that final bridge. 

Thanks lads, for the encouragement!  I enjoy reading all your posts about your differing routines. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 01, 2014, 07:44:30 AM
off work today  8)...gym early am

delts
front press 135/145/155/165/
laterals 3x drops 30/25/20 10 reps per..sick pump
underhanded curl bar front raises 50/60/60 premade bar
db upright rows 35/35/40
rear lateral cable raise bent at waist x3

shrugs on hammer chest machine 3 plates,4,4.5/5 then drop to 4 then to 3

forarms
reverse wrist curls x4
regular wrist curls x4

calves 5 sets standing calf raise

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 01, 2014, 08:10:00 AM
Damn right it is!   ;D  When asked by the doctor what should they do if I gave up the ghost on the table I replied, "Leave me.  I won't know and besides if you bump start me too late I might wake up a registered Democrat."   ;D

Yup.  They had a good laugh too.  Was I scared?  Yes.  But there is nothing anyone can do past a certain point and faith can carry me only so far. The rest of the journey is a mystery until I cross that final bridge. 

Thanks lads, for the encouragement!  I enjoy reading all your posts about your differing routines. 
we love having you here Scotty.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 01, 2014, 08:54:09 AM
Yesterday, pull day: machine assisted chins (neutral grip), barbell rows and DB upright rows.
This afternoon, push day: flat DB presses, standing DB presses and skull crushers.
Everything 10x10 with 15-30 sec intervals.

I hope my legs are recovered tomorrow for some squats & deads, we'll see...
Nice Weekend everybody :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 01, 2014, 09:05:35 AM
Yesterday, pull day: machine assisted chins (neutral grip), barbell rows and DB upright rows.
This afternoon, push day: flat DB presses, standing DB presses and skull crushers.
Everything 10x10 with 15-30 sec intervals.

I hope my legs are recovered tomorrow for some squats & deads, we'll see...
Nice Weekend everybody :)
you too cloggy Bro. really is a lot of volume i myself would struggle with triceps on your push day..pulling iīm much stronger. 10x10 is a lot.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 01, 2014, 09:20:47 AM
what weights are you using on your Training? your rest periods are very short.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 01, 2014, 02:11:12 PM
I did this today. Trained the whole body. I was a bucket of sweat at the end. Then went by the bay by a seaside bar having a few beers.  Watch the rich people and their insanely expensive boats pull up to dock by the bar. One thing I noticed. You can buy the 700K boat but you can't buy the body.  I'm sure some steroid users will dispute that.

Power cleans 3 x 3 then ended with 1 x 1

Full Olympic squats 2 x 9 then 1 x 1
Lunges 1 x 8
Standing leg curl 2 x 12

Dumbbell flat bench 2 x 8

Pull ups 2 x max
Seated V handle lat rows 2 x 12

Military press 2 x 8 (cleaned the weight to begin)
Dumbbell lateral raise 2 x 10

ez bar curls 2 x 10 (find this easier on my bad shoulder than straight bar)

Weighted dips 2 x 10 ( tried to go all the way down instead of easy shallow.)

Hanging leg raise 2 x max
Seated pulley crunches 2 x 25

Standing calf raises 2 x 15

Weighted back extensions 2 x 15

Grip and neck work

Took me 1:45 to do.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 01, 2014, 02:43:47 PM
you too cloggy Bro. really is a lot of volume i myself would struggle with triceps on your push day..pulling iīm much stronger. 10x10 is a lot.

I'm way stronger with pulls as well, so I see it as a nice challenge for my tris.

what weights are you using on your Training? your rest periods are very short.

Let's just say, nothing to write home about, or write on a forum ;D
You really have to lower your weights, but I have no problem with that, since I'm rather 'muscle activation' than weight oriented.
For example, I did only 135 on those barbell rows, but that's fine; my back is sore and that's what matters. Another nice benefit is that lower weights are less taxing to the joints (that's an open door, I know..).


On a side note, this kind of training made me a aware of an important thing. Everytime that you switch to another exercise, you have to zone in (again!). Now I'm able to dive deep into an exercise, which sometimes takes a few sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on August 01, 2014, 08:32:06 PM
yes i have done them using a rope and cable, worked ok but i like good old Hanging knee raises and crunches on the floor. Double crunches bringing knees and elbows together. went through periods of no ab Training just letting rowing , deads etc Train it all but when you start crunching again...you feel it. Also like to just tense my abs when sitting. crunches on a ball give you a longer range of Motion.
I do crunches with a stability beam under my lower back while using the rope on a low pulley attachment. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 01, 2014, 08:37:24 PM
I do crunches with a stability beam under my lower back while using the rope on a low pulley attachment. ;)
i figured you did those...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 02, 2014, 02:27:24 AM
I do crunches with a stability beam under my lower back while using the rope on a low pulley attachment. ;)
you like the Ab wheel too if i remember correctly... this guy does some good stuff .
http://www.rosstraining.com/articles/wheel.html
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 02, 2014, 02:34:14 AM
I did this today. Trained the whole body. I was a bucket of sweat at the end. Then went by the bay by a seaside bar having a few beers.  Watch the rich people and their insanely expensive boats pull up to dock by the bar. One thing I noticed. You can buy the 700K boat but you can't buy the body.  I'm sure some steroid users will dispute that.

Power cleans 3 x 3 then ended with 1 x 1

Full Olympic squats 2 x 9 then 1 x 1
Lunges 1 x 8
Standing leg curl 2 x 12

Dumbbell flat bench 2 x 8

Pull ups 2 x max
Seated V handle lat rows 2 x 12

Military press 2 x 8 (cleaned the weight to begin)
Dumbbell lateral raise 2 x 10

ez bar curls 2 x 10 (find this easier on my bad shoulder than straight bar)

Weighted dips 2 x 10 ( tried to go all the way down instead of easy shallow.)

Hanging leg raise 2 x max
Seated pulley crunches 2 x 25

Standing calf raises 2 x 15

Weighted back extensions 2 x 15

Grip and neck work

Took me 1:45 to do.
Nice... going to jump on a Train with a friend and go into Hannover today. Visit a couple of Beer Gardens. perv at the girlies... ;) :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 02, 2014, 08:19:00 PM
took kiddies to sesame place,popular attraction in pennsylvania based on show sesame street ,,rollercoasters,water slides,other rides ,,all tamed versiions of the bigger mentioned at say six flags or busch gardens,,lot of walking,kids had a blast,lil one crawled in mini pool for a while...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 03, 2014, 12:47:58 AM
took kiddies to sesame place,popular attraction in pennsylvania based on show sesame street ,,rollercoasters,water slides,other rides ,,all tamed versiions of the bigger mentioned at say six flags or busch gardens,,lot of walking,kids had a blast,lil one crawled in mini pool for a while...
sounds like a great Day Steve. quite Day for me today. had a good laugh yesterday.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 03, 2014, 05:53:45 AM
took kiddies to sesame place,popular attraction in pennsylvania based on show sesame street ,,rollercoasters,water slides,other rides ,,all tamed versiions of the bigger mentioned at say six flags or busch gardens,,lot of walking,kids had a blast,lil one crawled in mini pool for a while...

I miss the days when my kids were little. Wait till they are teenagers and then you can take them to Universal in Florida. You can do all the amazing rides they have there with them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 03, 2014, 08:36:41 AM
Did all the groceries for my adjusted diet, which I will start tomorrow:

Chicken breast
Brown rice
Vegetables
Eggs (whole)
Walnuts

The macros are 250gr protein, 210gr fats & 250gr carbs, +4,000 kcals (on workout days some extra kcals from my inner- & post workout drinks).

My current diet consists of eggs, whey, quark(cheese), oat meal, rice, veggies & olive oil. I experienced that the oats made me drowsy and that the quark gave digestion problems, so it was time for a change.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 03, 2014, 11:22:27 AM
Three week till vacation in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. It's nuts that I live right by the ocean but I take the family 600 miles to another beach. Just fun to get away to someplace difference. I just wish I could drop 10 pounds but it seems hard as hell lately. I'm 185 but I want to tighten up to 175. I don't know if I will make it but I will give it my best.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 03, 2014, 11:24:26 AM
Three week till vacation in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. It's nuts that I live right by the ocean but I take the family 600 miles to another beach. Just fun to get away to someplace difference. I just wish I could drop 10 pounds but it seems hard as hell lately. I'm 185 but I want to tighten up to 175. I don't know if I will make it but I will give it my best.

How tall are you?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 03, 2014, 06:26:49 PM
5'8"
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 03, 2014, 07:07:20 PM
5'8"

Seems like your weight is about right. I have shrunk to 5'9" and currently weigh in at 193 lbs. most days. I am "big boned" though. I don't feel or look fat (I hope). At least my family thinks I look thin.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 03, 2014, 07:20:38 PM
today was leg day...lot of strenght and energy ...

started with lying leg sled press,,,stack machine,,140 warmed x20,,160/200/220/240/260 reps were 12 or close per set

squats close stanced 225/275/315/365 12/10/10/8

lunges steps up/down/up/dpwn ..did 2x

extensions 220/235/250 sets 12

hams
db stiff legged 60/70/80/90
lying leg curls 140/150/155

calves
seated calf raise 3plates x2,,3.5 plates x2
standing calf raise toes in x3 i feel it on inside
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 04, 2014, 03:31:15 AM
tonight chest with some Abs and Cardio.

Decline BB press ;) 3-4 sets
machine flyes (for a Change) 3-4 sets
Incline BB press 3-4 sets
Incline dB flyes  3-4 sets
push ups 1-2 max

Abs.. Incline old School twisting sit ups 3x20-30  cardio.. 10 mins rower,10 mins bike, 10 mins cross Trainer. Bike and crosser interval Programme.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 04, 2014, 05:36:56 AM
tonight chest with some Abs and Cardio.

Decline BB press ;) 3-4 sets
machine flyes (for a Change) 3-4 sets
Incline BB press 3-4 sets
Incline dB flyes  3-4 sets
push ups 1-2 max

Abs.. Incline old School twisting sit ups 3x20-30  cardio.. 10 mins rower,10 mins bike, 10 mins cross Trainer. Bike and crosser interval Programme.
I like decline db better,still never liked them...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 04, 2014, 05:41:01 AM
I like decline db better,still never liked them...
similar to Dips but a Change. dropping plates did say he liked dbs too for declines. Just mixing it up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 04, 2014, 05:57:12 AM
similar to Dips but a Change. dropping plates did say he liked dbs too for declines. Just mixing it up.

My favorite!
I don't use barbells at all during my own routines (reasons: shoulder joints and training alone).
Only every now and then when I work with my coach, I perform those guillotine presses.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 04, 2014, 06:01:31 AM
My favorite!
I don't use barbells at all during my own routines (reasons: shoulder joints and training alone).
Only every now and then when I work with my coach, I perform those guillotine presses.

i like to use a Barbell because i can concentrate more on my plane of path. i do like DBs for flat and incline though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 04, 2014, 06:22:46 AM
i like to use a Barbell because i can concentrate more on my plane of path. i do like DBs for flat and incline though.

Well, I have to say that decline barbell work isn't messing with my joints, but then again, I prefer to train alone (short intervals & more freedom).

BTW, had a nice 18.5 minute HIIT cardio session this morning (indoor cycle), 1 min moderate speed/low resistance/30 secs sprint/high resistance.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 04, 2014, 06:51:43 AM
Well, I have to say that decline barbell work isn't messing with my joints, but then again, I prefer to train alone (short intervals & more freedom).

BTW, had a nice 18.5 minute HIIT cardio session this morning (indoor cycle), 1 min moderate speed/low resistance/30 secs sprint/high resistance.
Decline is a great exercise. None of the Young guys in the Gym use it unless i Show it. All just want the flat bench.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 04, 2014, 06:59:22 AM
Decline is a great exercise. None of the Young guys in the Gym use it unless i Show it. All just want the flat bench.

My gym has 3 flat benches, but only 1 would be plenty. The cable crossover is a different story; my gym needs a second one. I hardly use it, but those youngsters are addicted...
I would welcome a second squat rack, or even better, a power rack.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 04, 2014, 07:28:30 AM
My gym has 3 flat benches, but only 1 would be plenty. The cable crossover is a different story; my gym needs a second one. I hardly use it, but those youngsters are addicted...
I would welcome a second squat rack, or even better, a power rack.
Cables are good if you have the muscles to contract. flat flyes are ok. bench between the low cables. Most have not paid their dues on BB press ..Dips...Incline press.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 04, 2014, 08:45:32 AM
Cables are good if you have the muscles to contract. flat flyes are ok. bench between the low cables. Most have not paid their dues on BB press ..Dips...Incline press.

I can't think for them, since I was never a big fan of cross overs myself, but maybe they're confusing the pump with hypertrophy ???
In case I perform multiple exercises for a certain muscle, then I often put emphasis on the stretch first and finish that with a peak contraction movement.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 04, 2014, 09:13:48 AM
I can't think for them, since I was never a big fan of cross overs myself, but maybe they're confusing the pump with hypertrophy ???
In case I perform multiple exercises for a certain muscle, then I often put emphasis on the stretch first and finish that with a peak contraction movement.
I thought you did a Basic pull/push Routine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 04, 2014, 09:18:49 AM
DP explain your Routine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 04, 2014, 09:57:45 AM
DP explain your Routine.

Sorry for the confusion, LOL. Yes, I'm a strong believer in the push/pull split. I try to create variety within this framework by not performing the same exercises over and over again. Sometimes I perform 2-4 exercises for a certain muscle, but with my recent German volume training like approach its 1-2 but with much higher volume. I always seek for exercises with (almost) no overlap, like POF principles, but also emphasis on the stretch or contraction.

Maybe I should with a book about my approach, called "Dropping Pilates", but I hope this explains a bit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 04, 2014, 10:57:55 AM
Seems like your weight is about right. I have shrunk to 5'9" and currently weigh in at 193 lbs. most days. I am "big boned" though. I don't feel or look fat (I hope). At least my family thinks I look thin.

Most boxers and MMA guys my height are under 155lbs. Here are two elite bodybuilding pictures. Means is about 175 at 5'9". and Baldwin is 173lbs in this picture at 5'9". I am not comparing myself to them but just saying stripped of fat 170lbs is more than enough weight at that height for an fitness guy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 04, 2014, 11:31:14 AM
Sorry for the confusion, LOL. Yes, I'm a strong believer in the push/pull split. I try to create variety within this framework by not performing the same exercises over and over again. Sometimes I perform 2-4 exercises for a certain muscle, but with my recent German volume training like approach its 1-2 but with much higher volume. I always seek for exercises with (almost) no overlap, like POF principles, but also emphasis on the stretch or contraction.

Maybe I should with a book about my approach, called "Dropping Pilates", but I hope this explains a bit.
ach...cloggy  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 04, 2014, 11:34:53 AM
Most boxers and MMA guys my height are under 155lbs. Here are two elite bodybuilding pictures. Means is about 175 at 5'9". and Baldwin is 173lbs in this picture at 5'9". I am not comparing myself to them but just saying stripped of fat 170lbs is more than enough weight at that height for an fitness guy.
BALDWIN has a phenomenal build still...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 04, 2014, 01:55:02 PM
ach...cloggy  ;D

Cloggy, I like that word ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 04, 2014, 02:32:33 PM
BALDWIN has a phenomenal build still...

He certainly does but I feel sorry for him. I suspect strongly that he's still running cycles at his age. It says something about his emotional make up that he is willing to risk health to be seen as a muscle man.  Knowing a little about the way he sees things he would probably say it's a very small risk and that it has health benefits.  ::) He's quick to say many can take all the drugs they want and not look as good as him but using that logic can he  have decent physique completely clean for 6 months? I doubt it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 04, 2014, 02:47:18 PM
He certainly does but I feel sorry for him. I suspect strongly that he's still running cycles at his age. It says something about his emotional make up that he is willing to risk health to be seen as a muscle man.  Knowing a little about the way he sees things he would probably say it's a very small risk and that it has health benefits.  ::) He's quick to say many can take all the drugs they want and not look as good as him but using that logic can he  have decent physique completely clean for 6 months? I doubt it.

Well he must have a strong constitution or he really regulates what he takes. He is 67 years old and still going strong.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 04, 2014, 03:43:07 PM
Well he must have a strong constitution or he really regulates what he takes. He is 67 years old and still going strong.

Damn, looks great for any age!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 05, 2014, 12:08:00 AM
Remember he posted on Iron Age and Raw iron...seemed like a good guy.
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Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 05, 2014, 03:40:16 AM
wow... mother and Daughter... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 05, 2014, 05:10:19 AM
Tonight legs (at home)

10 mins jumping rope to warm up.
BB squats 4 sets
front squats 4 sets
BB Hack squats 4 sets
one legged calf raises 3- 5 sets (with dB)

I have a leg curl/Extension bench but i just fancy some Hack squats and front squats. BB Hacks are very effective for lower leg and Hammies ;D... might not look like much this Routine but it does hit it all.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 05, 2014, 05:35:19 AM
Had a legs only day

10x10 front squats
5x10 stiff leg deads
5x60 foot walking lunges with DB
5x10 adductor machine
5x15 standing calve raises

Some stretch & foam roll work at the end.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 05, 2014, 06:10:11 AM
Found These tasty things in a German shop..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 05, 2014, 06:13:23 AM
A Scottish recipe, what's the alcohol content? :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 05, 2014, 06:18:40 AM
A Scottish recipe, what's the alcohol content? :D
none but itīs full of sugar. Have not eaten this for years. Wife was Shopping and just got me it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 05, 2014, 06:30:06 AM
none but itīs full of sugar. Have not eaten this for years. Wife was Shopping and just got me it.

They look a bit like Dutch 'lange vingers' ('long fingers' or 'ladyfingers'), a nice and light treat with a cup of coffee/tea.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-f88DFOpY4pc/TW_GrEAm3pI/AAAAAAAABEE/6Mie4ORO_oQ/s1600/_MG_8765+%2528640x427%2529.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 05, 2014, 06:32:50 AM
They look a bit like Dutch 'lange vingers' ('long fingers' or 'ladyfingers'), a nice and light treat with a cup of coffee/tea.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-f88DFOpY4pc/TW_GrEAm3pI/AAAAAAAABEE/6Mie4ORO_oQ/s1600/_MG_8765+%2528640x427%2529.jpg)
no These Scottish fingers are different Cloggy... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 05, 2014, 06:39:05 AM
no These Scottish fingers are different Cloggy... ;)

Heavy ass cloggy fingers!

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-m6pB7eTCw6Q/UMttf2WcJGI/AAAAAAAAH0E/_TSz1_Io_cM/s320/highland_games.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 05, 2014, 06:44:16 AM
Heavy ass cloggy fingers!

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-m6pB7eTCw6Q/UMttf2WcJGI/AAAAAAAAH0E/_TSz1_Io_cM/s320/highland_games.jpg)
you know what.. Scottish Highland Games are loved also over here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 05, 2014, 06:50:20 AM
you know what.. Scottish Highland Games are loved also over here.

I believe so, no wonder why so many good European bodybuilders are from Germany. The same goes for the UK and Sweden, the rest of Europe not so much.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 05, 2014, 06:52:18 AM
peine near where i live..
http://www.peinemarketing.com/de/hg-pe/index.php
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 05, 2014, 06:59:32 AM
peine near where i live..
http://www.peinemarketing.com/de/hg-pe/index.php

Even MediaMarkt is one of the sponsors, I can't see this happen in my country.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 05, 2014, 07:05:05 AM
Even MediaMarkt is one of the sponsors, I can't see this happen in my country.
always fans of the Kilt and the Strong Man Traditions.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 05, 2014, 07:12:43 AM
you know what. I could have a German Passport too. I declined it because iīm British. i have lived here so Long and have a German wife but i will and always will hold my British Nationality.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 05, 2014, 08:15:38 AM
CHEST

FDB PRESS WITH PALMS ROTATED IN AT TOP FINISH 55/65/70/80
INC DB PRESS 60/60/60 SUPERSET WITH SLOW REP INC FLYES 40/40/40'S..SETS 8-10 ON EACH MOVEMENT
DECLINE DB  :D...60/60/60 SET 12/12/9
STRAIGHT BAR PULLOVERS PREMADE BAR 60/70/70
CABLE CROSSOVERS SETS 15 X2

TRIS
ROPE OVERHEAD EXTENSIONS X3
DIP MACHINE X3 190/210/210 'STACK VERSION'
REVERSE GRIP PUSHDOWN X3
CABLE KICK BACKS X2 SETS 15 REPS

ABS
HANGING LEG RAISES X3
SEATED CRUNCH MACHINE X3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 05, 2014, 08:28:51 AM
CHEST

FDB PRESS WITH PALMS ROTATED IN AT TOP FINISH 55/65/70/80
INC DB PRESS 60/60/60 SUPERSET WITH SLOW REP INC FLYES 40/40/40'S..SETS 8-10 ON EACH MOVEMENT
DECLINE DB  :D...60/60/60 SET 12/12/9
STRAIGHT BAR PULLOVERS PREMADE BAR 60/70/70
CABLE CROSSOVERS SETS 15 X2

TRIS
ROPE OVERHEAD EXTENSIONS X3
DIP MACHINE X3 190/210/210 'STACK VERSION'
REVERSE GRIP PUSHDOWN X3
CABLE KICK BACKS X2 SETS 15 REPS

ABS
HANGING LEG RAISES X3
SEATED CRUNCH MACHINE X3
Nice Steve.. supersets in there.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 05, 2014, 08:32:02 AM
Nice Steve.. supersets in there.
VERY SORE TODAY...pullovers and inclines /flye supersets were killer 'flye was slow stretch and stop at partial lock out'keeps pecs tensed'wicked pump..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 05, 2014, 08:39:11 AM
VERY SORE TODAY...pullovers and inclines /flye supersets were killer 'flye was slow stretch and stop at partial lock out'keeps pecs tensed'wicked pump..
NICE :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 05, 2014, 08:53:32 AM
you know what. I could have a German Passport too. I declined it because iīm British. i have lived here so Long and have a German wife but i will and always will hold my British Nationality.

That's cool, be proud of your roots. Would a German passport bring you any benefits?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 05, 2014, 09:22:36 AM
That's cool, be proud of your roots. Would a German passport bring you any benefits?
some yes. However i have been a politician here in Stadt Celle. I know the laws here very well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 05, 2014, 10:42:04 AM
That's cool, be proud of your roots. Would a German passport bring you any benefits?

Three of my grandkids have dual citizenship for now. From what I understand, they can keep their dual citizenship status indefinitely. They benefit from both citizenships because at least two of them utilize medical coverage from both sources. The oldest grandchild is no longer living at home and is marrying later this month. Her access to her dad's medical insurance is probably over.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 05, 2014, 01:50:55 PM
Three of my grandkids have dual citizenship for now. From what I understand, they can keep their dual citizenship status indefinitely. They benefit from both citizenships because at least two of them utilize medical coverage from both sources. The oldest grandchild is no longer living at home and is marrying later this month. Her access to her dad's medical insurance is probably over.

Sounds like a very good reason to choose for dual citizenship, but I believe that someone should be free in his/her choice.
I remember a populist politician who was against dual citizenship among politicians, but I believe this is rather a symbolic/emotional thing than a valid point.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 05, 2014, 01:56:11 PM
My push workout from this evening,

10x10 decline DB presses
5x10 upright DB rows
5x10 seated DB presses
5x10 incline single DB curls with bands
5x10 decline DB extentions

As you can see, I ditched my push/pull split, since I decided to train legs & back only once a week (strong points).
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 05, 2014, 06:05:05 PM
Trained legs today. Thought I would go for an hour bike ride after but was too shot to consider it. Back to my one set to failure. I was going to do some volume this week but the thought of repeating an exercise for 4 sets just feels like spinning my wheel instead of getting the job done. When will I learn that intensity is like walking a high wire concerning injuries.

Leg press 1 x 15 (went as deep as I could with the back board set low. Used 500lbs and could have gone way heavier if I shortened the range of motion)
Olympic squats 1 x 10
Machine squats 1 x 10
leg extension 1 x 25
seated leg curls 1 x 20
standing leg curls 1 x 15

Side  bends with one dumbbell 1 x 17
hanging leg raise 1 x max
reverse hip crunches 1 x max
machine ab crunches 1 x 30

leg press calf 1 x 25
standing calf 1 x 18
standing leverage calf machine 1 x 17
seated calf 1 x 18

neck work

Work out took me about an hour. Since I work out at home everything is plate loaded and that slows me down.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 06, 2014, 01:58:10 AM
Trained legs today. Thought I would go for an hour bike ride after but was too shot to consider it. Back to my one set to failure. I was going to do some volume this week but the thought of repeating an exercise for 4 sets just feels like spinning my wheel instead of getting the job done. When will I learn that intensity is like walking a high wire concerning injuries.

Leg press 1 x 15 (went as deep as I could with the back board set low. Used 500lbs and could have gone way heavier if I shortened the range of motion)
Olympic squats 1 x 10
Machine squats 1 x 10
leg extension 1 x 25
seated leg curls 1 x 20
standing leg curls 1 x 15

Side  bends with one dumbbell 1 x 17
hanging leg raise 1 x max
reverse hip crunches 1 x max
machine ab crunches 1 x 30

leg press calf 1 x 25
standing calf 1 x 18
standing leverage calf machine 1 x 17
seated calf 1 x 18

neck work

Work out took me about an hour. Since I work out at home everything is plate loaded and that slows me down.


Talking of legs was tempted to do These last night. Never see People doing them. Just perfect to annoy People infront of the squat rack ;D I love how she says "core solid"... sounds like a High School Teacher...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 06, 2014, 02:21:52 AM
Talking of legs was tempted to do These last night. Never see People doing them. Just perfect to annoy People infront of the squat rack ;D I love how she says "core solid"... sounds like a High School Teacher...


It's seems a good exercise for balance/coordination, esp with a barbell instead of dumbbells or a kettlebell. This might not be the best one for hypertrophy since there's no continuous tension on the quads.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 06, 2014, 02:45:28 AM
It's seems a good exercise for balance/coordination, esp with a barbell instead of dumbbells or a kettlebell. This might not be the best one for hypertrophy since there's no continuous tension on the quads.
itīs harder than it Looks. more of a finishing off exercise and it really hits the inside leg area. Might look like a Girlie exercise but a couple of high rep sets at the end of a leg workout and youīll feel it the next day. fair bit of Stretch in the groin area and with knee/hip Problems maybe not good for some.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 06, 2014, 03:22:55 AM
itīs harder than it Looks. more of a finishing off exercise and it really hits the inside leg area. Might look like a Girlie exercise but a couple of high rep sets at the end of a leg workout and youīll feel it the next day. fair bit of Stretch in the groin area and with knee/hip Problems maybe not good for some.

It's def tough. I sometimes use it without weights as a warmup. It's a common misunderstanding that a wide stance is much more taxing on the adductors, but that's only partly true (see http://www.ergo-log.com/squatsadductors.html).
It's a pretty technical movement, so you have to perform it carefully, esp as a beginner.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 06, 2014, 08:02:06 AM
Talking of legs was tempted to do These last night. Never see People doing them. Just perfect to annoy People infront of the squat rack ;D I love how she says "core solid"... sounds like a High School Teacher...


I couldn't watch the video. She just irritates the hell out of me with that pompous , "I have a one week training certificate and I am all knowing," type attitude. 

If you were teaching someone how to make a basket in basket ball would you say, " eye on the rim, shoot with finger tips, slight bend in legs, exhale when you throw, follow through with the wrist, shoot relaxed, slight twist to the throwing hand, think 4 inches past rim. I think I would take a shot and give the kid the ball to shoot. Maybe give him a pointer or two. I see these personal trainers every where now. In the gyms and in the parks. They all have this over correction chatter concerning the tiniest nuance of an exercise thinking they are PHD's in kinesiology. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 06, 2014, 08:08:15 PM
back
chins wide/inner grip 2x and 2x
tbar row pad to chest x3 2 plates/2and a 25/2and 25 and a ten
lower cable row single handles but done together x3
reverse hammer pulldown one arm at time 2 plates and 2 sets added some change to each set
standing wide bar pulls to waist pulldowns x3

weighted hypers

bi's
seated curlmachine x3
cable bar curls x3
seated concentration curls hammer grip x2
standing cable single arm curls x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 07, 2014, 12:58:37 AM
did back too last night Steve..

Close undergrip chins 3xmax
Wide grip pulldowns to front 3 sets
BB wide grip rows 3 sets
one arm cable rows 3 sets
BB pull overs 3 sets
Hyperextensions 45 degree 3 sets

a bit more exercise variation than i normally do. bit of lower back discomfort so i did some bodyweight hypers. one arm cable rows were just for a change using a low pulley. old school style.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 07, 2014, 01:52:34 AM
I couldn't watch the video. She just irritates the hell out of me with that pompous , "I have a one week training certificate and I am all knowing," type attitude. 

If you were teaching someone how to make a basket in basket ball would you say, " eye on the rim, shoot with finger tips, slight bend in legs, exhale when you throw, follow through with the wrist, shoot relaxed, slight twist to the throwing hand, think 4 inches past rim. I think I would take a shot and give the kid the ball to shoot. Maybe give him a pointer or two. I see these personal trainers every where now. In the gyms and in the parks. They all have this over correction chatter concerning the tiniest nuance of an exercise thinking they are PHD's in kinesiology. 

Keep in mind that this video is made for a broad audience. Explaining things to an advanced lifter is much easier than to a beginner.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 07, 2014, 05:27:09 AM
i think i will do These tonight. not done them in Ages. shoulders iīll hit more high rep tonight after back yesterday. Tri set. probably do them on a flat bench for a longer range of Motion.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 07, 2014, 06:21:34 AM
i think i will do These tonight. not done them in Ages. shoulders iīll hit more high rep tonight after back yesterday. Tri set. probably do them on a flat bench for a longer range of Motion.

those are good I do them on flat bench..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 07, 2014, 08:16:34 AM
those are good I do them on flat bench..
yeah.. donīt need much weight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 07, 2014, 09:45:32 AM
yeah.. donīt need much weight.
MIGHT DO THESE TONITE
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 07, 2014, 02:05:58 PM
yeah.. donīt need much weight.
very fine exercise......I use 15 pounds tops.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 07, 2014, 02:07:25 PM
delts and bis:


hammer presses  4 sets

laterals  4 sets

reverse pec deck   4 sets

db shrugs   4 sets


alternate db curls   4 sets

flat head machine curls  4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 07, 2014, 07:30:09 PM
delts at home great workout,,,,use a bit of ,variation/volume/tri sets

trisets
group 1
db pressx10/side raises x10/cable up right x10 rest 30/45 sec

then to group 2
front raise with curl bar x10/side raises x10/bent rear lateral raise x10 rest same under minute

then back to group 1 and repeat #2 ,,,so did 3x around each ..sick pump

to donny's exercise lying on bench on side and doing lateral raise x2
with cable fr and rear shrugs did 3x for trap work

did single leg calf raises 4 sets at end..

after pump pic lol,,,and a classic pose ala zane 'i wish''''
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 07, 2014, 10:58:31 PM
Always in great shape, good detail on the inner chest NJ
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 08, 2014, 06:35:14 AM
Always in great shape, good detail on the inner chest NJ
THANK YOU BRO....I APPRECIATE IT ..HAVING STRENGHT/OR GOOD BUILD IS SOMETHING YOU EARN OVER TIME AND ITS GRATYFYING FOR ONES'SELF THAT YOU TAKE PRIDE IN IT...AT 46 ITS ICING ON THE CAKE..I NEVER WANTED TO BE A MASS MONSTER,I NEVER HAD UNREALISTIC FANTASIES ABOUT BEING A MAGAZINE BBER ,I JUST WANTED TO CLOSELY RESEMBLE MAYBE A FAV WHETHER IT WAS ZANES CONDITION/SHAPE/OR ARNOLDS CHEST LOOK NOT HIS SIZE OBVIOUSLY,I LIKE 70/80 'S LOOK ESP THOS OLD BLACK AND WHITES DONNY PUTS UP ON FUNK THREAD ,OLD SCHOOL NAMES JUST SOME GOOD SIZE/SHAPE AND GOOD, NOT TRANSPARENT 'DRY'CONDITION BUT LEAN AND DECENT SIZED ,ARNOLD/ROBBIE/FRANCO AND THE BIGGER 70'S NAMES ASIDE THEY WERE REALLY DRUG CREATED,BUT THE OTHER GUYS YOU BARELY KNOW NAMES...BBING AND OR TRAINING IS A GREAT PERSONAL/PHYSICAL JOURNEY ONLY FEW COULD DO FOR DECADES,,WE HAVE THOSE TYPE RIGHT HERE IN THIS THREAD ALONE...PEACE STEVE NJFLEX..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 08, 2014, 06:45:32 AM
You're clearly passionate in the good sense, Steve. In case you took the mass route, then it would be much harder to combine that with a job & family life. We all need to find out for ourselves what matters the most to us, call it a Journey...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 08, 2014, 07:16:20 AM
delts and bis:


hammer presses  4 sets

laterals  4 sets

reverse pec deck   4 sets

db shrugs   4 sets


alternate db curls   4 sets

flat head machine curls  4 sets
good to see the Georgie boy back again.. where you been hiding? on Holidays ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 08, 2014, 07:28:04 AM
so did Arms Today...

BB curls 3 sets
Incline DB curls 3 sets
concentration curls 3 sets

lying BB skull crushers 3 sets
Incline Bench BB Tri extensions 3 sets
DB Kick backs 3 sets

Calves i did on the seated leg press 5 sets, Abs: I did in between sets, Seated knee tucks off a bench just repping out. Cardio i went for a cycle around for about 45 mins. Itīs warm again so i decided cycling would be better outdoors. Gym is just like a Greenhouse.. :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 08, 2014, 07:32:08 AM
good to see the Georgie boy back again.. where you been hiding? on Holidays ?
YEAH FORGOT ABOUT THAT HE WAS MISSING,,,HE SENT ME A PM ALWAYS CHECKS ON ME AND FAMILY,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 08, 2014, 07:43:35 AM
YEAH FORGOT ABOUT THAT HE WAS MISSING,,,HE SENT ME A PM ALWAYS CHECKS ON ME AND FAMILY,,,
yes he wrote to me yesterday. got to go to work and sweat my ass off. long sleeved t-shirt to cover my tats.. still at least iīve got a brown face and cause my hair is very short a brown dome.. :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 08, 2014, 09:08:38 AM
yes he wrote to me yesterday. got to go to work and sweat my ass off. long sleeved t-shirt to cover my tats.. still at least iīve got a brown face and cause my hair is very short a brown dome.. :D
;D.. 8)...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 08, 2014, 02:47:55 PM
chest and bis:


hammer wide grip   4 sets

hammer incline   4 sets

pec deck   4 sets


alternate db curls   4 sets

flat head machine curls   4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 09, 2014, 06:47:39 AM
I always train to a pre written script. I then write down the reps completed and the work out time. I'm very rigid in my structure. Today I'm training delts and arms. Just going to wing it. Do what ever I feel like it. Complete instinct. This is a complete deviation from what I normally do. It's going to feel strange.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 09, 2014, 07:32:19 AM
I always train to a pre written script. I then write down the reps completed and the work out time. I'm very rigid in my structure. Today I'm training delts and arms. Just going to wing it. Do what ever I feel like it. Complete instinct. This is a complete deviation from what I normally do. It's going to feel strange.
I do what i feel like on the Day. I maybe mid workout swap an exercise because it feels right at the time. i used to write stuff down but i stopped because i never stuck to it. Iīll stick with my "meats and Bones" exercises but i might throw in extra sets/fewer sets...an extra exercise if i feel like it. Maybe on the Day BB Benches donīt feel right..so iīll  superset Push ups and DB flyes. maybe Dips. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 09, 2014, 08:03:31 AM
I do what i feel like on the Day. I maybe mid workout swap an exercise because it feels right at the time. i used to write stuff down but i stopped because i never stuck to it. Iīll stick with my "meats and Bones" exercises but i might throw in extra sets/fewer sets...an extra exercise if i feel like it. Maybe on the Day BB Benches donīt feel right..so iīll  superset Push ups and DB flyes. maybe Dips. 
THIS IS WHAT I DO ,,I HAVE IDEA AND THROW A FEW WRINKLES IN,,SOME LEG DAYS I GET THERE AND SAY TODAY WE ARE DOING GIANT SETS AND OUT IN 45 MINUTES..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 09, 2014, 08:10:07 AM
THIS IS WHAT I DO ,,I HAVE IDEA AND THROW A FEW WRINKLES IN,,SOME LEG DAYS I GET THERE AND SAY TODAY WE ARE DOING GIANT SETS AND OUT IN 45 MINUTES..
yep... some Days youīre Busting with Energy and other Days youīre tired or on a tight schedule. Giant sets are great Stevo.. for legs.. Maximum intensity. although i do most often supersets or tri sets ( shoulders)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 09, 2014, 08:38:58 AM
yep... some Days youīre Busting with Energy and other Days youīre tired or on a tight schedule. Giant sets are great Stevo.. for legs.. Maximum intensity. although i do most often supersets or tri sets ( shoulders)
yep,,that why at home delt that this week I did trisets 2 groups and just rotated around 3x ,,sick pump,i like delt/trap day at gym tho I can go a little heavier...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 09, 2014, 08:52:38 AM
I did 4 sets an exercise for delt and arms. The only unusual thing for me is that I pyramided  but kept the reps the same. So for an exercise I might have did 4 sets of 8 reps but every set I upped the weight.

I'm becoming convinced that doing a lot of sets for an exercise isn't for me.  I just can't stand repeating an exercise too many times. I want to do a set or two to failure and be done. Doing 4 sets of an exercise seems like I'm spinning my wheels doing too many sub maximal sets. It also takes a lot of time unless you are rushing through your sets with light weight.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 09, 2014, 08:58:36 AM
I did 4 sets an exercise for delt and arms. The only unusual thing for me is that I pyramided  but kept the reps the same. So for an exercise I might have did 4 sets of 8 reps but every set I upped the weight.

I'm becoming convinced that doing a lot of sets for an exercise isn't for me.  I just can't stand repeating an exercise too many times. I want to do a set or two to failure and be done. Doing 4 sets of an exercise seems like I'm spinning my wheels doing to many sub maximal sets. It also takes a lot of time unless you are rushing through your sets with light weight. 
yeah...I tried that what ur saying example warmed and did not count fb press 50/60 then jumped right to 80's instead building to it and foe a few chest workouts I pressed them easier amd mor ereps and then go up 85/90 max then I get hurt and back to struggling with 80's
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 09, 2014, 09:22:03 AM
I did 4 sets an exercise for delt and arms. The only unusual thing for me is that I pyramided  but kept the reps the same. So for an exercise I might have did 4 sets of 8 reps but every set I upped the weight.

I'm becoming convinced that doing a lot of sets for an exercise isn't for me.  I just can't stand repeating an exercise too many times. I want to do a set or two to failure and be done. Doing 4 sets of an exercise seems like I'm spinning my wheels doing to many sub maximal sets. It also takes a lot of time unless you are rushing through your sets with light weight.  
interesting is you are on one side a runner with endurance and with your weight training not so. It could be that you expend too much energy on your running.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 09, 2014, 11:48:29 AM
leg work:


lying leg curls   4 sets

unilateral leg curls  4 sets

squats  3 sets

leg presses  3 sets

leg extensions  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 09, 2014, 11:49:57 AM
I do what i feel like on the Day. I maybe mid workout swap an exercise because it feels right at the time. i used to write stuff down but i stopped because i never stuck to it. Iīll stick with my "meats and Bones" exercises but i might throw in extra sets/fewer sets...an extra exercise if i feel like it. Maybe on the Day BB Benches donīt feel right..so iīll  superset Push ups and DB flyes. maybe Dips. 
I feel the exact same way......following your instincts is the way to go!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 09, 2014, 12:14:54 PM
interesting is you are on one side a runner with endurance and with your weight training not so. It could be that you expend too much energy on your running.

Absolutely possible. I would never call myself a bodybuilder. I'm into being in shape and being an athlete. Yes, my running is for endurance and the weights are for strength. No, I haven't got it all figured out after lifting for decades. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 09, 2014, 12:24:21 PM
yeah...I tried that what ur saying example warmed and did not count fb press 50/60 then jumped right to 80's instead building to it and foe a few chest workouts I pressed them easier amd mor ereps and then go up 85/90 max then I get hurt and back to struggling with 80's

I just find it better when I do flat dumbbell bench presses to do one warm up set of 8 reps with 45 pounds. Then two real work sets of 8 reps with 70 to 90 pounds. If I do 4 or 5 sets I feel like I'm just wasting time doing sub maximal sets. Since I'm 55 with a lot of joint issues I know it's only a matter of time before I become a true volume guy where I use the same weight for every set and through exhaustion the last set of 4 or 5 sets becomes failure. I'm still on a quest to find the optimal way for me to work out. Today my bad shoulder made grinding noises through my sets. My one elbow screamed with every lock out. My left Achilles was sore. I never had knee issues in my life but surprise now I have one. Decades upon decade of lifting heavy is catching up with me. Ask any dedicated  trainer who is a life time lifter if they have major joint issues in their 50's. If they say they don't they never trained heavy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 09, 2014, 12:26:07 PM
Absolutely possible. I would never call myself a bodybuilder. I'm into being in shape and being an athlete. Yes, my running is for endurance and the weights are for strength. No, I haven't got it all figured out after lifting for decades. 
the wise ones from us are still learning. Always willing to learn  a new trick .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 10, 2014, 04:44:42 PM
Went to a roof top bar on the beach with a great dj. So many girls dancing in their bikinis it looked like a rapper video on MTV. I did get a compliment. A twenty something girl with a 230 lb juiced to the gills bodybuilder told my wife kudos on your husband. My wife told me after. Maybe my little 180lbs is working for me. LOL.

Going to tone down the cardio for two weeks. Donny made a suggestion that maybe I was over doing it. Going to let my running injuries heal up a bit. I'll hit the weights hard for two weeks then I'm going on vacation to South Carolina. I know I'm nuts in that I live by a beach and I'm driving 600 miles to another beach but change is good for the soul.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 10, 2014, 04:58:21 PM
delts and bis:

hammer presses   4 sets

cable side laterals  4 sets

reverse pec deck   4 sets

hammer shrugs   4 sets

standing ez bar curls  5 sets

db preacher curls  5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 10, 2014, 07:18:14 PM
Went to a roof top bar on the beach with a great dj. So many girls dancing in their bikinis it looked like a rapper video on MTV. I did get a compliment. A twenty something girl with a 230 lb juiced to the gills bodybuilder told my wife kudos on your husband. My wife told me after. Maybe my little 180lbs is working for me. LOL.

Going to tone down the cardio for two weeks. Donny made a suggestion that maybe I was over doing it. Going to let my running injuries heal up a bit. I'll hit the weights hard for two weeks then I'm going on vacation to South Carolina. I know I'm nuts in that I live by a beach and I'm driving 600 miles to another beach but change is good for the soul.


8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 10, 2014, 07:22:32 PM
leg day..

hack squat,,warmed 2 plates per side x15,then did 3/4/5/6 ..last set 6 plates for 8 was like weight of world on my shoulders..
lying leg sled 200/240/260 sets 10
walking lunges 80lbs on back x2
extensions 220/235/250 sets 12

hams
lying leg curls 140/150/160
seated leg curl 180/195/210

calves
leg press x3
seated calf raises x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 11, 2014, 02:21:34 AM
Went to a roof top bar on the beach with a great dj. So many girls dancing in their bikinis it looked like a rapper video on MTV. I did get a compliment. A twenty something girl with a 230 lb juiced to the gills bodybuilder told my wife kudos on your husband. My wife told me after. Maybe my little 180lbs is working for me. LOL.

Going to tone down the cardio for two weeks. Donny made a suggestion that maybe I was over doing it. Going to let my running injuries heal up a bit. I'll hit the weights hard for two weeks then I'm going on vacation to South Carolina. I know I'm nuts in that I live by a beach and I'm driving 600 miles to another beach but change is good for the soul.


Those South Carolina Babes look great to me  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 11, 2014, 05:36:27 AM
Tonight Chest..

Flat DB press 3-4 sets
machine flyes 3-4 sets
Incline BB press3-4 sets
Incline DB flyes 3-4 sets

push ups 1-2 max reps

Abs: machine crunches  cardio: cross trainer 30-45 mins.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 11, 2014, 08:49:57 AM
Those South Carolina Babes look great to me  ;D


A friend of mine is a big fan of the South Carolina cocks football team. I know some of you are from England and Scotland. The Cock refers to fighting male chickens.  It's there mascot. My friend is always talking about the cocks. I really try not to burst out laughing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 11, 2014, 09:09:08 AM
A friend of mine is a big fan of the South Carolina cocks football team. I know some of you are from England and Scotland. The Cock refers to fighting male chickens.  It's there mascot. My friend is always talking about the cocks. I really try not to burst out laughing.
yeah..sorry man but i could not resist posting it... :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 11, 2014, 02:29:41 PM
Trained entire body again. Just going to run a short two miles tomorrow on my off day. Really felt broken down last week. Way to much running when combined with lifting left me feeling horrible. Just going to see how 2 miles feels on my off day. I should take a complete break for a week but I'm too nuts to do that.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 11, 2014, 07:37:51 PM
chest/tri/abs @home..
warmed then went right to work sets like oldtimer..
chest press seated wide grip x2 sets 10

inner side grip x2x10

inc db press x2 x10

db flye flat supeset with db pullover x2

fdb press turn hands in at palms face supeset decline pushups x2

tris
pushdowns x3

superset incline close grip skull cushers with close grip press

kick backs x2

old school bench feet propped up dips x3

abs
floor crunches superset with lying leg raises x3




Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 12, 2014, 01:21:07 AM
Trained entire body again. Just going to run a short two miles tomorrow on my off day. Really felt broken down last week. Way to much running when combined with lifting left me feeling horrible. Just going to see how 2 miles feels on my off day. I should take a complete break for a week but I'm too nuts to do that.


i like to throw in some cycling too with running.  really works the muscles around the knee. I think it helps prevent joint pain. well it helps me. so tonight i will do legs..

i think i will try a stevo Giant set tonight as i will be working out fairly late before we close so will need to work fast. training Antagonistic muscles.

Squats
Seated Leg Curls
Leg Press
stiff legged Dead lifts

Calves i will do time permitting and the Giant set might also include leg extensions. sets at least 3 if time permits 4-5 per exercise.

This type of Giant set is not so intense as training a single muscle group but i like working opposite muscles together at times. Legs, arms, chest/back perfect.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 12, 2014, 04:04:04 AM
chest/tri/abs @home..
warmed then went right to work sets like oldtimer..
chest press seated wide grip x2 sets 10

inner side grip x2x10

inc db press x2 x10

db flye flat supeset with db pullover x2

fdb press turn hands in at palms face supeset decline pushups x2

tris
pushdowns x3

superset incline close grip skull cushers with close grip press

kick backs x2

old school bench feet propped up dips x3

abs
floor crunches superset with lying leg raises x3






Like I said before I haven't got all the answers. I just find if I hit two work sets with one non taxing warm up set and no warm up  as I hit the second exercise for a body part I can use heavier weight than spinning my wheels with two or three sets of sub maximal sets before pyramiding to that top weight. Of course something like leg presses and squats might take more than one warm up set. Tell me what you think about it Njflex. We all know there is no one way to train or optimal way to train for everyone or we would all be on the same program.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 12, 2014, 04:12:47 AM
i like to throw in some cycling too with running.  really works the muscles around the knee. I think it helps prevent joint pain. well it helps me. so tonight i will do legs..

i think i will try a stevo Giant set tonight as i will be working out fairly late before we close so will need to work fast. training Antagonistic muscles.

Squats
Seated Leg Curls
Leg Press
stiff legged Dead lifts

Calves i will do time permitting and the Giant set might also include leg extensions. sets at least 3 if time permits 4-5 per exercise.

This type of Giant set is not so intense as training a single muscle group but i like working opposite muscles together at times. Legs, arms, chest/back perfect.


I think this is the first summer I didn't throw in some bike riding. Never injured myself on a bike unless I crashed.  ;D  Great form of cardio. I'm not a very good cyclist but I if I go out for an hour ride I try to never coast but keep pedaling the entire way. I never feel the weakness from cycling that can feel sometimes from a hard distance run. Don't understand the underlining reasons why.  I use to ride a racing type bike but the comfort for me was terrible. Now I use a really nice hybrid bike. I go a lot slower with the thicker tires and upright seating position but I am working out with the same effort so the comfort is worth it to me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 12, 2014, 05:33:09 AM
Like I said before I haven't got all the answers. I just find if I hit two work sets with one non taxing warm up set and no warm up  as I hit the second exercise for a body part I can use heavier weight than spinning my wheels with two or three sets of sub maximal sets before pyramiding to that top weight. Of course something like leg presses and squats might take more than one warm up set. Tell me what you think about it Njflex. We all know there is no one way to train or optimal way to train for everyone or we would all be on the same program.
I hear ya,,,I like that u have that nice home gym,i go to gym but I have a home set up which is enough if I tax myself with supersets or pump type rep sets I can get by ,I have 3 kids and wife that works nites if I have no sitter or she's on schedule I have to train at home ,otherwise 4 days at gym no problem.i work around it and never get stale so its working
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 12, 2014, 02:16:07 PM
I hear ya,,,I like that u have that nice home gym,i go to gym but I have a home set up which is enough if I tax myself with supersets or pump type rep sets I can get by ,I have 3 kids and wife that works nites if I have no sitter or she's on schedule I have to train at home ,otherwise 4 days at gym no problem.i work around it and never get stale so its working

I hear you on having difficultly with work and family. I had a lot of obstacles such as working revolving shifts. Working steady nights. Driving 105 miles to work at 3:30AM. With my 4 kids it wasn't always easy getting the workouts in. Luckily my job in quite few locations have gyms that I would hit when work allowed. Combining that with my home gym I always got the workouts in. I think the most difficult was the night shift. I always felt exhausted and sleep deprived.

Now that I'm retired I find I have all the time in the world but sometimes when you are the most busy you can paradoxically get the most productive workouts in. Larry Scott once wrote in effect, "During my prime I worked a 8 hour shift. I then hit the gym for two hours then went to night school." He said they were the most productive workouts he ever had.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 12, 2014, 02:33:00 PM
I hear you on having difficultly with work and family. I had a lot of obstacles such as working revolving shifts. Working steady nights. Driving 105 miles to work at 3:30AM. With my 4 kids it wasn't always easy getting the workouts in. Luckily my job in quite few locations have gyms that I would hit when work allowed. Combining that with my home gym I always got the workouts in. I think the most difficult was the night shift. I always felt exhausted and sleep deprived.

Now that I'm retired I find I have all the time in the world but sometimes when you are the most busy you can paradoxically get the most productive workouts in. Larry Scott once wrote in effect, "During my prime I worked a 8 hour shift. I then hit the gym for two hours then went to night school." He said they were the most productive workouts he ever had.
I NEVER MISS.. I LOVE TRAINING,,, GET IT IN SOMEHOW..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 12, 2014, 06:50:40 PM
arm work this eve:


rope pushdowns   4 sets

pullover press  4 sets

overhead rope extensions   4 sets


standing ez bar curls   4 sets

one arm preacher curls  4 sets

hammer rope curls  4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 13, 2014, 12:50:37 AM
arm work this eve:


rope pushdowns   4 sets

pullover press  4 sets

overhead rope extensions   4 sets


standing ez bar curls   4 sets

one arm preacher curls  4 sets

hammer rope curls  4 sets
Nice work George :) i like the Pullover+press
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 13, 2014, 05:31:24 AM
day off yesterday ...train tonite ..

sample my eating day today

meal 1 ate already whole wheat pita with eggbeaters/PEPPERS/TURKEY..Coffee italian roast  with fat free hazelnut creamer 'sweet tooth'

rest of workday packed
greek yogurt vanilla/scoop choc whey/banana

tuna made with low fat Italian dressing/whole wheat bread
wheat crackers
cup blueberries
peach
cherry /pomegranate snack bar
vitamin water

dinner????and after workout meal to be determined...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 13, 2014, 07:55:27 AM
A friend of mine is a big fan of the South Carolina cocks football team. I know some of you are from England and Scotland. The Cock refers to fighting male chickens.  It's there mascot. My friend is always talking about the cocks. I really try not to burst out laughing.
Go the South Carolina Cocks... get your friend this t shirt ... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 13, 2014, 08:03:07 AM
day off yesterday ...train tonite ..

sample my eating day today

meal 1 ate already whole wheat pita with eggbeaters/PEPPERS/TURKEY..Coffee italian roast  with fat free hazelnut creamer 'sweet tooth'

rest of workday packed
greek yogurt vanilla/scoop choc whey/banana

tuna made with low fat Italian dressing/whole wheat bread
wheat crackers
cup blueberries
peach
cherry /pomegranate snack bar
vitamin water

dinner????and after workout meal to be determined...
looks good Steve .. so iīm doing a Home Back workout later.

Warm up jumping rope..
wide grip front chins 3-4 sets
BB Bent over rows 3-4 sets
BB Pullovers 3-4 sets
Upright rows 3 sets

No cardio tonight.  maybe do some rowing with the Band i got the other Day..play around a bit
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 13, 2014, 08:09:18 AM
Nice work George :) i like the Pullover+press
the pullover press is out of this world!!!


sensational pump in the tris!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 13, 2014, 08:10:48 AM
the pullover press is out of this world!!!


sensational pump in the tris!!!
even just doing a pullover i feel my triceps working but with a press itīs a hard exercise...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 13, 2014, 08:12:24 AM
chest/tri/abs @home..
warmed then went right to work sets like oldtimer..
chest press seated wide grip x2 sets 10

inner side grip x2x10

inc db press x2 x10

db flye flat supeset with db pullover x2

fdb press turn hands in at palms face supeset decline pushups x2

tris
pushdowns x3

superset incline close grip skull cushers with close grip press

kick backs x2

old school bench feet propped up dips x3

abs
floor crunches superset with lying leg raises x3





looking solid steverino!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 14, 2014, 05:43:12 AM
 Shoulders and Cardio later.

Giant Set ..

Dumbbell Circle Raises 3 sets
DB side Raises 3 sets
Lying one arm rear DB raises(really like these) 3sets
DB seated Press 3sets.

Dumbbell Circle is a very interesting exercise that really infact works the whole Delts. Gironda Exercise.
Cardio : Running



Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 14, 2014, 06:19:30 AM
DELT/BI AT HOME....1 DAY AT HOME I DON'T MIND BUT 2 GOOD GYM BODYPARTS CHEST/DELT/ARMS I HAD AT HOME,,BACK AND LEGS WILL BE DONE AT GYM...WIFE WORK SCHEDULE AT NIGHT THREW ME OFF THIS WEEK,NO EXTRA BABYSITTING AT NIGHT THIS WEEK,,

DELTS 'I DID OK FOR HOME'ANYWAY SAME EXACT EXERCISES AND CLOSE TO TOP WEIGHT I DO AT GYM..

STARTED SIDE RAISES DROPS 'MY FAVORITE'30/20/15 X3 SHOOT FOR 10 REPS PER DROP 'KILLER PUMP
CABLE UPRIGHT ROWS X3
FRONT RAISES CURL BAR UNDERHAND GRIP'
BENT OVER REAR DELT RAISES 30 LB DBELLS X4
FRONT ARNOLD TWIST PRESSES FACE IN AND TURN OUTWARDS AT TOP..45/45/50 10/10/7 'TOASTED BY THESES LOL...

BI'S
CABLE CURL CLOSE GRIP X3 REPPED HIGHER ON THESE 15/15/10 I THINK LAST WAS LOWEST
SEATED DB CURLS WITH 45'S 8-10 LAST SET DID 45-6 GRABBED 30'S FOR 8..3 SETS TOTAL
DB 30'S CONCENTRATION ON INNER LEG FOR SUPPORT I USE HAMMER GRIP ON THESE'SAW A PRO DOING THEM ON A VIDEO'THERE GOOD.
CURL BAR WIDE FINISHED X3 CURLS TOP TO SLIGHLTY BELOW HALWAY POINT 'PARTIALS TO KEEP STRESS ON BI'

MY BASEMENT IS STEAMING TOTALLY SOAKED THATS THE GOOD PART'LIKE ROCKY 4'LOL...

BACK WITH TRAPS 2 NITE....TRAPS USUALLY DONE WITH DELTS SO GOOD CHANGE WITH BACK 2 NITE..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 14, 2014, 06:29:21 AM
DELT/BI AT HOME....1 DAY AT HOME I DON'T MIND BUT 2 GOOD GYM BODYPARTS CHEST/DELT/ARMS I HAD AT HOME,,BACK AND LEGS WILL BE DONE AT GYM...WIFE WORK SCHEDULE AT NIGHT THREW ME OFF THIS WEEK,NO EXTRA BABYSITTING AT NIGHT THIS WEEK,,

DELTS 'I DID OK FOR HOME'ANYWAY SAME EXACT EXERCISES AND CLOSE TO TOP WEIGHT I DO AT GYM..

STARTED SIDE RAISES DROPS 'MY FAVORITE'30/20/15 X3 SHOOT FOR 10 REPS PER DROP 'KILLER PUMP
CABLE UPRIGHT ROWS X3
FRONT RAISES CURL BAR UNDERHAND GRIP'
BENT OVER REAR DELT RAISES 30 LB DBELLS X4
FRONT ARNOLD TWIST PRESSES FACE IN AND TURN OUTWARDS AT TOP..45/45/50 10/10/7 'TOASTED BY THESES LOL...

BI'S
CABLE CURL CLOSE GRIP X3 REPPED HIGHER ON THESE 15/15/10 I THINK LAST WAS LOWEST
SEATED DB CURLS WITH 45'S 8-10 LAST SET DID 45-6 GRABBED 30'S FOR 8..3 SETS TOTAL
DB 30'S CONCENTRATION ON INNER LEG FOR SUPPORT I USE HAMMER GRIP ON THESE'SAW A PRO DOING THEM ON A VIDEO'THERE GOOD.
CURL BAR WIDE FINISHED X3 CURLS TOP TO SLIGHLTY BELOW HALWAY POINT 'PARTIALS TO KEEP STRESS ON BI'

MY BASEMENT IS STEAMING TOTALLY SOAKED THATS THE GOOD PART'LIKE ROCKY 4'LOL...

BACK WITH TRAPS 2 NITE....TRAPS USUALLY DONE WITH DELTS SO GOOD CHANGE WITH BACK 2 NITE..
Yes Home training can also be great.. the undergrip front raises i like. Remember Bertil Fox did Side raises with DBs with this grip... you are one dedicated trainer Steve. good to throw in some new exercises now and again.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 14, 2014, 06:32:06 AM
Yes Home training can also be great.. the undergrip front raises i like. Remember Bertil Fox did Side raises with DBs with this grip... you are one dedicated trainer Steve. good to throw in some new exercises now and again.
I'VE DONE THOSE SIDE RAISES LIKE THAT...YOU HAVE TO GO LIGHT 'RELATIVE'OR U LOSE THE EFFECT..I SHOULD REVISIT THOSE.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 14, 2014, 06:49:19 AM
I'VE DONE THOSE SIDE RAISES LIKE THAT...YOU HAVE TO GO LIGHT 'RELATIVE'OR U LOSE THE EFFECT..I SHOULD REVISIT THOSE.
me too ! Itīs a bit like Circle raises, you work lighter but the tension on the muscles is longer,great range of motion and when used in a superset/triset/giant set good stuff .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 14, 2014, 06:59:09 AM
me too ! Itīs a bit like Circle raises, you work lighter but the tension on the muscles is longer,great range of motion and when used in a superset/triset/giant set good stuff .
TRAINING IS INFINITE THERES NO ENDLESS POSSIBITIES TO CHOOSE,ONLY THING THAT DOES IS HOW BIG ONE CAN GET.DRUGGED OR NOT .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 14, 2014, 07:06:58 AM
TRAINING IS INFINITE THERES NO ENDLESS POSSIBITIES TO CHOOSE,ONLY THING THAT DOES IS HOW BIG ONE CAN GET.DRUGGED OR NOT .
Not really maximal size for me but Quality and also being flexible and fast.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 14, 2014, 10:55:43 AM
Day off for me from the weights. I'm staying away from running for awhile to let injuries clear and to rest up from the exhaustion I have been feeling. Actually walked today instead of running for two miles. Felt good not to be pounding myself into the ground with cardio and felt completely relaxed when I was done. Maybe next week I'll gradually start reintroducing running back into my program.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 14, 2014, 11:07:01 AM
Day off for me from the weights. I'm staying away from running for awhile to let injuries clear and to rest up from the exhaustion I have been feeling. Actually walked today instead of running for two miles. Felt good not to be pounding myself into the ground with cardio and felt completely relaxed when I was done. Maybe next week I'll gradually start reintroducing running back into my program.
run .. you are the way you are .. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 14, 2014, 03:55:28 PM
run .. you are the way you are .. ;D

To avoid the pounding effect on your system caused by running, try bicycling. It's great fun. It is low impact (unless you get into a smash up with a car or truck). Mostly, you can cover a lot more territory and see a lot more scenery when biking. When I get home from the wedding, I am going either have my old bike tuned up or buy a new one and use it everyday.

This morning I weighed 190 lbs. Not a big loss but down from 206 about a year ago. Soon, I am going to be a skinny mini. Lunch today was a large glass of V-8 juice. V-8 juice is loaded with potassium. Tomorrow, I am headed to Banana Republic to pick up some new chinos. My old ones look like gunny sacks because they are too big in the waist.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 14, 2014, 07:48:22 PM
back

pullups sets 12-15 x3
t bar rows 2.5 plates/3 plates/3.5 plates
low cable rows x3 180/195/195
bent over rows 185/205/225
standing stretch pulldowns to mid waist x3

weighted hypers x3

traps
shrugs 225/275/295/295 superset with 45 plate each hand and to the sides and pull up squeeze for 12-15

abs x4 crunch machine sets 25

forarms reverse and wrist curls cable 3 each...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 14, 2014, 10:13:35 PM
back

pullups sets 12-15 x3
t bar rows 2.5 plates/3 plates/3.5 plates
low cable rows x3 180/195/195
bent over rows 185/205/225
standing stretch pulldowns to mid waist x3

weighted hypers x3

traps
shrugs 225/275/295/295 superset with 45 plate each hand and to the sides and pull up squeeze for 12-15

abs x4 crunch machine sets 25

forarms reverse and wrist curls cable 3 each...
keep pumping big steve......you are the man!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 15, 2014, 08:23:19 AM
I will train arms Tonight.

BB curls 3-4 sets
incline curls 3-4 sets
Non supported concentration curls 3-4 sets

lying Tricep skull crushers BB 3-4 Sets
Incline Bench 3-4 sets
kickbacks 3-4 sets

abs: Seated knee tucks(raises) between sets. really feel my abs on these.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 15, 2014, 07:48:16 PM
To avoid the pounding effect on your system caused by running, try bicycling. It's great fun. It is low impact (unless you get into a smash up with a car or truck). Mostly, you can cover a lot more territory and see a lot more scenery when biking. When I get home from the wedding, I am going either have my old bike tuned up or buy a new one and use it everyday.

This morning I weighed 190 lbs. Not a big loss but down from 206 about a year ago. Soon, I am going to be a skinny mini. Lunch today was a large glass of V-8 juice. V-8 juice is loaded with potassium. Tomorrow, I am headed to Banana Republic to pick up some new chinos. My old ones look like gunny sacks because they are too big in the waist.

I use to enjoy cycling a lot years ago. There is this massive bike tour in Iowa I did. You have to ride 500 miles in 5 days. You camp out at night. It was sunny and about 90 every day. It was a brutal week. Now for cardio I really enjoy running when I'm not injured. I was a competitive runner in high school and college. Now I'm slug runner. If I run 8 minute miles it feels so fast and I know from experience that slug running.

Congrats on getting down to 190lbs. I took off a little over a week of cardio. Tomorrow I'm back on pounding the pavement. I'm pretty tight but just wish I could lose 10 pounds. Just not disciplined enough in the diet department.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 16, 2014, 04:48:42 AM
I use to enjoy cycling a lot years ago. There is this massive bike tour in Iowa I did. You have to ride 500 miles in 5 days. You camp out at night. It was sunny and about 90 every day. It was a brutal week. Now for cardio I really enjoy running when I'm not injured. I was a competitive runner in high school and college. Now I'm slug runner. If I run 8 minute miles it feels so fast and I know from experience that slug running.

Congrats on getting down to 190lbs. I took off a little over a week of cardio. Tomorrow I'm back on pounding the pavement. I'm pretty tight but just wish I could lose 10 pounds. Just not disciplined enough in the diet department.
500 miles in 5 Days...i hope you had good cycling shorts on... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on August 16, 2014, 08:59:26 AM
Great inspiration all around, gentlemen!  I have been cleared to begin training again with weights.  I will start Monday morning at 3:30 a.m.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 16, 2014, 09:05:23 AM
Great inspiration all around, gentlemen!  I have been cleared to begin training again with weights.  I will start Monday morning at 3:30 a.m.


Great News ! Bill Pearl training  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on August 16, 2014, 09:20:58 AM
Great News ! Bill Pearl training  ;D

Yup.  ;D  I supposedly have sleep apnea and for years on end (family claims I stop breathing for up to 1.5 minutes at a time) I pretty much average about 2 hours of sleep a night.  I get up at 1 or so and do my leg PT in my little home gym and then head into work to do the rest and then take a shower and get to the task at hand.



Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 16, 2014, 12:28:28 PM
500 miles in 5 Days...i hope you had good cycling shorts on... ;D

It was called the Ragbrai tour of Iowa. It's the biggest bike tour in the US. About 8K cyclists get together for it. It starts on the west side of Iowa and goes to the east. My butt was sore! It's not a race but most push it really hard. I know I did.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 16, 2014, 07:35:59 PM
touch up day did some rotating sets for pump..

seated chest press outer and inner grip with flyes
side laterals 'bertil fox version'underhanded and up at sides with front raises x3
incl press with flyes x2
tricep pushdowns  with curls and then db extensions and hammer curls all in sucsession x3

no back or traps still sore from thurs workout

worked in backyard painting rear porch steps different color harder than lifting 'lol'
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 16, 2014, 08:13:57 PM
Yup.  ;D  I supposedly have sleep apnea and for years on end (family claims I stop breathing for up to 1.5 minutes at a time) I pretty much average about 2 hours of sleep a night.  I get up at 1 or so and do my leg PT in my little home gym and then head into work to do the rest and then take a shower and get to the task at hand.





You should be using a CPAP. Sleep apnea is nothing to scoff at.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 16, 2014, 10:12:45 PM
leg workout:

lying leg curls   4 sets

unilateral leg curls  4 sets

squats  3 sets

leg presses  3 sets

leg extensions  3 sets

seated calf raises  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 17, 2014, 01:47:28 AM
touch up day did some rotating sets for pump..

seated chest press outer and inner grip with flyes
side laterals 'bertil fox version'underhanded and up at sides with front raises x3
incl press with flyes x2
tricep pushdowns  with curls and then db extensions and hammer curls all in sucsession x3

no back or traps still sore from thurs workout

worked in backyard painting rear porch steps different color harder than lifting 'lol'

had that before too after a hard workout, helping a friend move House. My lower arms were screaming carrying furniture around. Was a long Day.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 17, 2014, 02:02:24 AM
Today we have a nice cool wind so itīs perfect to go running. I love the wind in my face. One thing no one writes about is Stretching. Does anyone do much of it ? i still like to do a few Basic stretches to keep my shoulders,lower Back/ Hamstrings from feeling tight. Have to admit shoulder flexibility has never been outstanding. Lifts like Pullovers and stiff legged Deads do have a good bit of stretch in their too. The BB pullovers iīm doing regular now do help my shoulder Mobility.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 17, 2014, 02:24:37 AM
towel disclocation exercise is good. Can also use a band or even a stick.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 17, 2014, 05:12:30 AM
towel disclocation exercise is good. Can also use a band or even a stick.


A band is better since it adds some force. Buy a light (red) pair for less then $20 and you have a great training accessory!

(http://www.fitshop.ca/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/u/n/untitled-1_2_83.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on August 17, 2014, 06:48:06 AM
You should be using a CPAP. Sleep apnea is nothing to scoff at.

I am awaiting my turn at the test to decide if I really have the problem.  If so, I will have to save up and get the thing which I believe is around two grand..  A co-worker has one and says it helps him a lot.  Hopefully it will do the same for me.  Until then, roughly two hours a night!  Yippeeeeee... ;D

Tomorrow I think I will go back to this schedule of training:

Back and chest one day then shoulders and arms the next.  Rest a day and repeat.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 17, 2014, 10:57:17 AM
Today we have a nice cool wind so itīs perfect to go running. I love the wind in my face. One thing no one writes about is Stretching. Does anyone do much of it ? i still like to do a few Basic stretches to keep my shoulders,lower Back/ Hamstrings from feeling tight. Have to admit shoulder flexibility has never been outstanding. Lifts like Pullovers and stiff legged Deads do have a good bit of stretch in their too. The BB pullovers iīm doing regular now do help my shoulder Mobility.

I am lazy when it comes to taking time to stretch. My daughter has been taking a class in yoga. She thinks I should try it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 17, 2014, 12:17:58 PM
You should be using a CPAP. Sleep apnea is nothing to scoff at.

I was diagnosed with sleep apnea last year. A surgeon simply melted away the thick knobs at the end of my nostril and it was fixed.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 17, 2014, 01:42:03 PM
I was diagnosed with sleep apnea last year. A surgeon simply melted away the thick knobs at the end of my nostril and it was fixed.

Melting away nostril knobs sounds anything but simple. Glad to read that it took care of the problem though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 17, 2014, 07:13:08 PM
I really neglected stretching for a long time. I had a long recurring problem with straining and tearing my calf when I run. I finally did a simple leaning calf stretch and found it was really tight. So far the calf hasn't given me any trouble. Trying to stretch more for everything now.

On another note I went on a 4 hour kayak trip through the Pine Barrens today. The pine barrens is a huge wilderness section of NJ that is really unique in the region. Pretty isolated area. Feels like your in a Deliverance movie. Long story short. We go over a little water fall by a little bridge. Couldn't have been 2 feet. My wife's kayak flips over. She is clueless on what to do. The water is only about 4 to 5 feet deep and it's not really a hard current. I beach my kayak and start to walk to her. What I didn't know is by bridge they dumped construction debris consisting of boulders. Every part of the river is a sand bottom except for this area. I can't see through the water to see the bottom. I start walking not knowing I'm on slippery boulders stepping from boulder to boulder. I slip in between boulders. I'm a bloody mess slamming my shin. The water around me turns red from blood. Since we are in the middle of no where I tell my family let's finish the trip. Didn't want to ruin every bodies good time. What I didn't know is how hard I hit the bone. I thought I just got cut. After being in the water for hours with my leg bleeding from the gash I didn't think it was anything to worry about. Eventually a doc stitched me up and gave me anti biotics. Now the bone is throbbing.  Wonder she should have done an Xray to see if I cracked it?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 17, 2014, 07:50:16 PM
leg day...

decided to do leg press over sled my knee feels great aafter laying off leg press maybe its 3 months,going ridiculous heavy isn't goal so i supersetted..

extensions 175 with 2 plates to start 10x10..190 and 4 plates 10x10,220 and 5 plates 10x10,235 and 6 plates 10x10 ,250 and 7 plates 10x6 gassed on press

squat close stance 225/275/315 10 rep sets

walking lunges 50 lb db x2



hams
stiff leg dlifts..135 x12/185x10/225x10/255x10
lying leg curls 140/150/155 10/10/9

seated calf raise x5 sets 12-15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 17, 2014, 10:38:29 PM
Melting awat nostril knobs sounds anything but simple. Glad to read that it took care of the problem though.

Oh yes, it was. It's like putting a very hot finger in your nostril ;)
They simply anesthetized it locally, done in a few minutes.
I was a little dizzy after this (low blood glucose), but that's normal.
Since that day I'm capable to utilize the full capacity of my lungs, a special feeling :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 18, 2014, 01:06:28 AM
I really neglected stretching for a long time. I had a long recurring problem with straining and tearing my calf when I run. I finally did a simple leaning calf stretch and found it was really tight. So far the calf hasn't given me any trouble. Trying to stretch more for everything now.

On another note I went on a 4 hour kayak trip through the Pine Barrens today. The pine barrens is a huge wilderness section of NJ that is really unique in the region. Pretty isolated area. Feels like your in a Deliverance movie. Long story short. We go over a little water fall by a little bridge. Couldn't have been 2 feet. My wife's kayak flips over. She is clueless on what to do. The water is only about 4 to 5 feet deep and it's not really a hard current. I beach my kayak and start to walk to her. What I didn't know is by bridge they dumped construction debris consisting of boulders. Every part of the river is a sand bottom except for this area. I can't see through the water to see the bottom. I start walking not knowing I'm on slippery boulders stepping from boulder to boulder. I slip in between boulders. I'm a bloody mess slamming my shin. The water around me turns red from blood. Since we are in the middle of no where I tell my family let's finish the trip. Didn't want to ruin every bodies good time. What I didn't know is how hard I hit the bone. I thought I just got cut. After being in the water for hours with my leg bleeding from the gash I didn't think it was anything to worry about. Eventually a doc stitched me up and gave me anti biotics. Now the bone is throbbing.  Wonder she should have done an Xray to see if I cracked it?
i would get an X ray just to be safe.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 18, 2014, 04:29:42 AM
 today:

Decline BB press 3-4 sets
Decline DB flyes  3-4 sets
Incline DB press  3-4 sets
incline  DB flyes  3-4  sets

Hanging knee raises 3 sets

do some Decline work today. Hardly anyone does it(here) and you never see good old Decline DB flyes.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 18, 2014, 06:46:59 AM
SIDE NOTE AFTER SUNDAYS WORKOUT
MADE A NICE DINNER FOR WIFE AND STEP SISTER

ANIPASTO I WRAPPED PROSCUITTO AROUND COOKED PEAR
MIXED OLIVES
I MADE MOZZARELLA AND TOMATOE WITH ROASTED PEPPERS 'OLIVE OIL/BASIL STACKED TOGETHER
DINNER CHICKEN AND ROSEMARY RAVIOLI AND RAVIOLI WITH PARMESAN REGGIANO FILLING BOTH WITH VODKA SAUCE
WIFE MADE HOMEADE GARLIC BREAD SHE IS EXPERT ON THAT...GOOD SEMOLINA BREAD HERE IN JERSEY

DESSERT CAPPUCCINO'S/ESPRESSO .CANNOLLI'S/ TIRIMASU CAKE
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 18, 2014, 07:31:37 AM
SIDE NOTE AFTER SUNDAYS WORKOUT
MADE A NICE DINNER FOR WIFE AND STEP SISTER

ANIPASTO I WRAPPED PROSCUITTO AROUND COOKED PEAR
MIXED OLIVES
I MADE MOZZARELLA AND TOMATOE WITH ROASTED PEPPERS 'OLIVE OIL/BASIL STACKED TOGETHER
DINNER CHICKEN AND ROSEMARY RAVIOLI AND RAVIOLI WITH PARMESAN REGGIANO FILLING BOTH WITH VODKA SAUCE
WIFE MADE HOMEADE GARLIC BREAD SHE IS EXPERT ON THAT...GOOD SEMOLINA BREAD HERE IN JERSEY

DESSERT CAPPUCCINO'S/ESPRESSO .CANNOLLI'S/ TIRIMASU CAKE

Right thatīs it Brother Stevo...the Mature thread is coming for Dinner ! ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 18, 2014, 07:41:02 AM
Right thatīs it Brother Stevo...the Mature thread is coming for Dinner ! ;D
SURE BUON APPETITTO..MANGIA ABBUDANZZO...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 18, 2014, 07:53:56 AM
SURE BUON APPETITTO..MANGIA ABBUDANZZO...
would love to answer in Gaelic..my mother spoke it but i never wanted to learn it as a kid... young and Dumb :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 19, 2014, 09:34:26 AM
Legs Tonight

leg extensions 3-4 sets(pre-exhaust) Superset
BB Front squat 3-4 sets

Leg curls 3-4 sets Superset
Stiff legged deadlifts 3-4 sets

seated calf raises 5 sets

Cross trainer interval 30 mins
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 19, 2014, 09:55:35 AM
Right thatīs it Brother Stevo...the Mature thread is coming for Dinner ! ;D

Sounds delicious, I would prob become a permabulker when I was an Italian...

(http://www.delspizzeria.com/images/4000b.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 19, 2014, 10:03:00 AM
CHEST WORKOUT..NICE AND GREAT PUMP/HEAVYISH AT TIMES TRAINING

FDB PRESS STAYING WITH THE TWIST IN THE TOP PORTION ON THESE MAKES THEM BURN A BIT MORE 55/65/75/80-55 DROP
GUILOTINE PRESS 135/155/165
HAMMER SITUP LOWER PRESS 2 PLATES.2.5 X2 SETS 12
LOW INCLINE FLYES' 2 NOTCH' ON FLEX BENCH SUPERSETTED WITH BAR PULLOVERS 40/45/50 AND USED 70LB PREMADE BAR
DIPS X2X15

TRIS
PUSHDOWNS 120-150 12-8
EXTENSION MACHINE SEATED X3
ROPE EXTENSIONS SUPESET WITH CABLE KICK BACKS X3

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 19, 2014, 10:03:30 AM
Sounds delicious, I would prob become a permabulker when I was an Italian...

(http://www.delspizzeria.com/images/4000b.jpg)
THATS AMORE...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 19, 2014, 10:15:29 AM
back and calves tonight:

assisted pull ups   4 sets

db rows  4 sets

seated cable rows 3 sets

partial deadlifts  3 sets

seated calf raises  5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 19, 2014, 10:20:04 AM
HEY BIG STEVE......NOTHING BEATS A LITTLE VEAL MILANESE WITH MASHED POTATOES AND SOME SINATRA PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND.....CAPPED OFF WITH A LITTLE WINE AND A CIGAR!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 19, 2014, 11:21:46 AM
THATS AMORE...

It is, but I love a tight waist as well, quite a dilemma ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 19, 2014, 12:08:46 PM
It is, but I love a tight waist as well, quite a dilemma ;D
ME TOO BRO,,THATS WHY ITS ONLY ONCE IN A WHILE,,LUCKY I HAVE A GOOD METABOLISM STILL :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 19, 2014, 02:06:18 PM
Have any of you guys seen a guy who lifts with light weights who has a good build? I use to work with a guy who was a 6 foot tall natural who looked fantastic. Got compliments on is build everywhere he went. When ever I would see him train he always had something like 155 on the bar for benches. Seated cable rows with moderate weight. He said once the weight I use seems light until you train with me. I did notice he goes from set to set like a machine with very little rest. He said he use to train heavy but got better results training like this.

I know a guy who trained in the same gym as Chris Dickerson who said he trained the same way. He would do 6 sets of 10-12 reps but moved like a machine. On a good day he would use around 115 for press behind the neck. Seated rows with 160lbs. Never squatted over 225lbs. I suspect the same method of training. Making a light weight heavy by good form and very short rests between sets.

Any thoughts about this?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 19, 2014, 03:17:18 PM
Have any of you guys seen a guy who lifts with light weights who has a good build? I use to work with a guy who was a 6 foot tall natural who looked fantastic. Got compliments on is build everywhere he went. When ever I would see him train he always had something like 155 on the bar for benches. Seated cable rows with moderate weight. He said once the weight I use seems light until you train with me. I did notice he goes from set to set like a machine with very little rest. He said he use to train heavy but got better results training like this.

I know a guy who trained in the same gym as Chris Dickerson who said he trained the same way. He would do 6 sets of 10-12 reps but moved like a machine. On a good day he would use around 115 for press behind the neck. Seated rows with 160lbs. Never squatted over 225lbs. I suspect the same method of training. Making a light weight heavy by good form and very short rests between sets.

Any thoughts about this?

I'm not saying that I look fantastic (that's up to others, not me), but this is how my current regimen looks like. It's my goal to perform 35-40 sets within an hour. I make 10-15 deep breaths between sets and keep the number of exercises limited. I also stick to the same weight, so it becomes only a battle during the last 1-2 sets. By training this way, I feel less need for cardio work.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 19, 2014, 06:37:03 PM
I'm not saying that I look fantastic (that's up to others, not me), but this is how my current regimen looks like. It's my goal to perform 35-40 sets within an hour. I make 10-15 deep breaths between sets and keep the number of exercises limited. I also stick to the same weight, so it becomes only a battle during the last 1-2 sets. By training this way, I feel less need for cardio work.

I just got a book by Steve Davis that says you should use about 45 sets an hour. So it's really interesting that your goal is very close at 40 sets. When I really think about East coast bodybuilding and West coast back in the 70's and 80's there were two different methods in general. East coast was about the weight and taking a lot of time in between sets. West coast it was about moderate weights and short rests between sets. You might be onto something about the fat burning of your type training. I have heard from many they get cut up when they stop max weights and all the loitering between sets to recover.

I have been too influenced by Arthur Jones and Mike Mentzer. I have always trained slow and heavy. Always trying to get to exhaustion in one or two sets. Every time I try training with fast volume it just doesn't feel right but I never truly give it it's due. I think it's time I dived in and used this method for awhile.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 19, 2014, 07:15:27 PM
i train 4 days and if time i do touch up all body pump workout'upper body'legs 1x is plenty for me plus my leg workouts are greuling..

mon.. chest/tri abs ..i train around 1:15 to 1:30 ,rest maybe 30 to 45  sec between sets with traing partner if alone less,i pyramid sets slightly little increments of added weight 'back/legs i can add much more on sets pyramid wise.i generally do 14-17 chest 5 exercises,tris 11-12 3 exercises

tues off

wed back/bi/abs,,back volume /heavy weights 'relative'moved,5 movements 15-17 sets inc hypers 18 then,bi's  3-4 exercises 9-11

thurs delt/calve/forarms   4-5 delt movements reps/reps/reps on delts 'pump them alot moderate weight,traps heavish but reps still no less than 10

fri off or pump day

sat legs usually if not sun legs and sat pump day if needed or able to do,,

leg day sometimes heavy or supersetted or giant sets lots of reps,,on avg 13 sets quads 6-7 hams and calves that day

i do 'zero'cardio...i have 3 small kids and work 10 hrs days lunch at my desk'strange set up i know'company frowns upon a lunch hr 'in car industry.so 4 full day hard training works good for me.

my diet simple and i enjoy food and not'only standard bbing foods'but still keep in check/portions /quality of protein/fats ,,i play with carbs good and bad depending on wanted condition/look..usually now i stay ripped 'no real offseason'if u don't compete there is no off season..

hope you read or just ignore no hard feelings ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on August 19, 2014, 07:56:30 PM
Sore. 

I have to give up some blood tomorrow for tests.  Several tubes if its like it usually is. Yippee.  As always, very inspirational posts here lads and I do appreciate them!  When I train light I do the old giant sets stuff and knock out about 50 or so sets in an hour.

Of course all my training is ridiculously light now.  Dammit.  ;D  Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 19, 2014, 11:11:16 PM
You all are an inspiration. It is great to read how each of you organize your workouts. I've discovered there are mostly just small differences in our routines.

I have not bothered to count the total number of sets I do on any given day. My routine lasts about as long in total as most of yours does. Like was mentioned, if you keep a good pace going, you don't need added cardiovascular work.

I am in Uettingen visiting my son and his family. Twenty six years ago, when I first visited I weighed the same as I do now....190 lbs. I am a little bit shorter now. My diet must be on target. Germans eat meat and cheese for breakfast. Guess they like to kick start protein intake.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 20, 2014, 02:20:10 AM
I just got a book by Steve Davis that says you should use about 45 sets an hour. So it's really interesting that your goal is very close at 40 sets. When I really think about East coast bodybuilding and West coast back in the 70's and 80's there were two different methods in general. East coast was about the weight and taking a lot of time in between sets. West coast it was about moderate weights and short rests between sets. You might be onto something about the fat burning of your type training. I have heard from many they get cut up when they stop max weights and all the loitering between sets to recover.

I have been too influenced by Arthur Jones and Mike Mentzer. I have always trained slow and heavy. Always trying to get to exhaustion in one or two sets. Every time I try training with fast volume it just doesn't feel right but I never truly give it it's due. I think it's time I dived in and used this method for awhile.

Interesting historical background, I didn't knew that. 45 sets is an ambitious goal, esp when you include a decent warm up (and when buddies greet you all the time or ask for a spot ;) )
It was my trainer, a formal champ with 40+ years of experience, who brought me on this high volume/short rest path.

I've been influenced by heavy duty as well and I believe that going to failure can bring you a step further, BUT... it's also pretty taxing on your joints & CNS, so I believe that you need to apply some kind of periodisation.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 20, 2014, 02:23:30 AM
Sore. 

I have to give up some blood tomorrow for tests.  Several tubes if its like it usually is. Yippee.  As always, very inspirational posts here lads and I do appreciate them!  When I train light I do the old giant sets stuff and knock out about 50 or so sets in an hour.

Of course all my training is ridiculously light now.  Dammit.  ;D  Keep up the good work!
the Scott you are a wellcome Poster on here...Hope all goes well  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 20, 2014, 02:32:18 AM
Oldtimer mentioned Steve Davis. Did some great interviews on Rics Corner
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 20, 2014, 05:16:37 AM
Oldtimer mentioned Steve Davis. Did some great interviews on Rics Corner

he had a cool build when he learned to diet/train right..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 20, 2014, 05:31:24 AM
yes he built a very nice physique, the metamorphis was astounding when you compare the pictures from his early Days to later on. Comes over as a very cool Dude.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 20, 2014, 09:14:18 AM
yes he built a very nice physique, the metamorphis was astounding when you compare the pictures from his early Days to later on. Comes over as a very cool Dude.. ;D
I LIKE HIS SHAPE/LOOK..THATS WHAT I TRY TO DO ,STAY LEAN AND ADD LITTLE CHANGES IF POSSIBLE TO GET LOOK OR MAINTAIN.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 20, 2014, 09:18:37 AM
I LIKE HIS SHAPE/LOOK..THATS WHAT I TRY TO DO ,STAY LEAN AND ADD LITTLE CHANGES IF POSSIBLE TO GET LOOK OR MAINTAIN.
staying lean all year round is the way to go.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 20, 2014, 02:53:54 PM
i train 4 days and if time i do touch up all body pump workout'upper body'legs 1x is plenty for me plus my leg workouts are greuling..

mon.. chest/tri abs ..i train around 1:15 to 1:30 ,rest maybe 30 to 45  sec between sets with traing partner if alone less,i pyramid sets slightly little increments of added weight 'back/legs i can add much more on sets pyramid wise.i generally do 14-17 chest 5 exercises,tris 11-12 3 exercises

tues off

wed back/bi/abs,,back volume /heavy weights 'relative'moved,5 movements 15-17 sets inc hypers 18 then,bi's  3-4 exercises 9-11

thurs delt/calve/forarms   4-5 delt movements reps/reps/reps on delts 'pump them alot moderate weight,traps heavish but reps still no less than 10

fri off or pump day

sat legs usually if not sun legs and sat pump day if needed or able to do,,

leg day sometimes heavy or supersetted or giant sets lots of reps,,on avg 13 sets quads 6-7 hams and calves that day

i do 'zero'cardio...i have 3 small kids and work 10 hrs days lunch at my desk'strange set up i know'company frowns upon a lunch hr 'in car industry.so 4 full day hard training works good for me.

my diet simple and i enjoy food and not'only standard bbing foods'but still keep in check/portions /quality of protein/fats ,,i play with carbs good and bad depending on wanted condition/look..usually now i stay ripped 'no real offseason'if u don't compete there is no off season..

hope you read or just ignore no hard feelings ;D

I read it. I love to hear what guys who actually train have to say.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 20, 2014, 06:45:06 PM
I read it. I love to hear what guys who actually train have to say.
thank u fellow jerseyian...going to ac next weekend 2 days at tropicana 'casino rate'my mom and husband gamble pretty heavy and stay there free,at least i got good rate from them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 20, 2014, 06:55:56 PM
back nice hard/heavy workout

chins wide/inner/wide/inner sets 12
bent over rows ..135/185/225/225 12/10/10/10
low cable rows 180/195/210 ..10/10/9
hammer reverse pulldown machine 2 45's per side x2 and added extra 10 for 3rd..10/10/10 with hard spot
tbar row underhanded grip wide chest to pad ,,2 45's x3 10 or spot to failure force to the 10th rep

hypers x3x12 45 lb plate used

bi's
seated bicep scott curl stack type 110/130/140
standing db curls 35/40/40 sets 10
nice finisher premade bar'curl'bar 80/70/60 drops 8x8x8 did this 2x was pumped

abs 5 sets crunch machine lying set 25-30
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 21, 2014, 03:55:59 AM
 shoulders later today.

DB press (Hammer Grip) 4 sets
DB side raises 4 sets
lying across Body rear delt DB raises 4 sets
BB Close grip upright rows 4 sets

Reverse crunches superset with crunches on floor mat 3 sets to failure of each.

cardio will be running out on the streets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 21, 2014, 04:05:24 AM
My push day,

Front squat 8x10
Adductor machine 4x10

Decline DB press 6x10
Inline DB press with bands between a cable cross-over 6x10

Standing single DB press 4x10
Standing single DB front raise 4x10

Decline single DB extentions with bands 8x10

It took me a little over 60 minutes to perform those 40 sets, since a guy asked me to join with the squats (we only have one rack).
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 21, 2014, 07:20:56 AM
thank u fellow jerseyian...going to ac next weekend 2 days at tropicana 'casino rate'my mom and husband gamble pretty heavy and stay there free,at least i got good rate from them.

Doesn't your mom have to be there to check in? She can book it but she has to be there to get the keys. I know this through my older sister who gets comp rooms for her kids.

Check out the club Boogie Nights in the Trop if you and your wife like to dance to 70's dance music. Cuba Libre has a fantastic sampler. It has chicken, beef, shrimp, chorizo and onion rings with various sauces to dip your meat in. The mojitos are lacking in my opinion in that they are the typical corn syrup crap mixtures. A real Cuban mojito is a fantastic and a simple drink to make. Carmine's is a copy of the real Carmine's in Manhattan. They even copied the wood floors with fake plastic boards. They charge more in Atlantic city than they do in Manhattan I believe. When I was in Manhattan they never asked if I wanted pasta with what is obviously a pasta dish then charge me $9 bucks extra. It's still a good place to eat.

I go to AC once a month but usually on a week day. If you don't get a comp deal on the weekends the rooms are over $400 bucks. Weekdays I can often get the same room for $65 bucks. It's crowded weekdays but not super packed like on week ends. I will be heading out to South Carolina Myrtle Beach on Saturday.
 
One word of caution. Once the sun goes down stay off the boardwalk. The thugs  are often armed and look for tourists to mug.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 22, 2014, 07:22:20 AM
Today i had to do a Home Gym workout..

supersets
Parallel bar dips (5 sets) with
Close grip chins

incline BB tri extensions (5 sets) with
incline DB curls

might not look like much but it was intense.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on August 22, 2014, 08:28:45 AM
atta boy Donny!!!


simple and to the point!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 22, 2014, 09:41:17 AM
I did this yesterday. I did two circuits of these exercises. Little to no rest between. Had me breathing like a race horse.

Max reps for all
1. pull ups
2. push ups
3. body weight rows. (grab a bar in a waist high rack facing the ceiling with feet on bench. Dead hang and pull chest to bar.) Fantastic movement.
4. Lunge jumps for height alternating legs 1 x 8 for each leg. ( for power and explosiveness. These had me breathing like a race horse)
5. Military clean and press 1 x 6.

Then I went for a 3 mile run in the heat. I ran a good time but was limited by doing the lunge jumps prior.

Body weight stuff gets put down by bodybuilders but truth be told you can take the biggest steroid pro and reduce him to an exhausted mess by just doing stuff like push ups and burpees.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on August 22, 2014, 05:38:56 PM
Feeling sore but good.  Ten sets of 20 on down to 5 reps with the same weight on dumbbell laterals, machine shoulder presses and finally machine rear delts.   Followed this with 5 sets of barbell curls with the same modus operandi as shoulder work and then 5 sets of dumbbell curls same method.

Followed by in the same vein with tricep pushdowns and machine close grip benches.  Five sets each way cable wrist curls and then a few sets of machine sit ups with weight.    I should be sore tomorrow and worse on Sunday.

Following Steve Davis' journey albeit a few decades later than him, I am still dieting down.  Body fat was given as 19.1% versus 24%.  Taken with one of those electronic devices so accuracy is whatever it is.  Regardless I'm using it as my benchmark.  I am fluffy but less so than before.  I am also weak but I have no doubt I will never be what I would consider strong again.  I am okay with that.

Maybe.   ;)

I need to stop the perma-bulking look, especially at my age.  I have been as large as 250 lbs when I was young but no more.  I want less because I think it will be "more" in a good way.  More healthy.  More like what it means to be a real physical culturist.  More attractive to the general population.  Just more without being more fluffy!   I feel like Rodney Dangerfield...No respect!  ;D    I want the Steve Reeves look but am more a cross between him and Draper.  Knowing this will help me remain realistic while focusing on leaning out.  I expect this to take a year or more and hopefully I will not waiver. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 22, 2014, 06:14:44 PM
Feeling sore but good.  Ten sets of 20 on down to 5 reps with the same weight on dumbbell laterals, machine shoulder presses and finally machine rear delts.   Followed this with 5 sets of barbell curls with the same modus operandi as shoulder work and then 5 sets of dumbbell curls same method.

Followed by in the same vein with tricep pushdowns and machine close grip benches.  Five sets each way cable wrist curls and then a few sets of machine sit ups with weight.    I should be sore tomorrow and worse on Sunday.

Following Steve Davis' journey albeit a few decades later than him, I am still dieting down.  Body fat was given as 19.1% versus 24%.  Taken with one of those electronic devices so accuracy is whatever it is.  Regardless I'm using it as my benchmark.  I am fluffy but less so than before.  I am also weak but I have no doubt I will never be what I would consider strong again.  I am okay with that.

Maybe.   ;)

I need to stop the perma-bulking look, especially at my age.  I have been as large as 250 lbs when I was young but no more.  I want less because I think it will be "more" in a good way.  More healthy.  More like what it means to be a real physical culturist.  More attractive to the general population.  Just more without being more fluffy!   I feel like Rodney Dangerfield...No respect!  ;D    I want the Steve Reeves look but am more a cross between him and Draper.  Knowing this will help me remain realistic while focusing on leaning out.  I expect this to take a year or more and hopefully I will not waiver. 

Scott how old are you? Just curious since you say you are older than Steve Davis. I think Steve is in his early 60's?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on August 22, 2014, 06:20:24 PM
Scott how old are you? Just curious since you say you are older than Steve Davis. I think Steve is in his early 60's?

Oldtimer1, sorry for the confusion.  I am 57 and meant to convey that I was following in Davis' footsteps a few decades after he dropped all his unnecessary weight.  I think Davis said he was currently 66, so he has me by nine years.  Looks better than me too!

My leg and shoulders feel older though.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 22, 2014, 08:10:29 PM
day behind delt/calves/forearms

delts
front press superset side raises....135 and 25 lb raises..145 and 25 ..155 and 25's x2
bent over rear delt cable raises x4
front bar raises premade curl bar x3  50/60x2
db upright rows 35x3

traps
shrugs 225/275/295
reverse shrugs x3

calves 4 sets 24 rep sets standing calf raise 3 foot positions

forarms
reverse and wrist curls both cable 6 sets



Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 23, 2014, 01:53:03 AM
atta boy Donny!!!


simple and to the point!!!
I think so too...thanks.  ;D
I did this yesterday. I did two circuits of these exercises. Little to no rest between. Had me breathing like a race horse.

Max reps for all
1. pull ups
2. push ups
3. body weight rows. (grab a bar in a waist high rack facing the ceiling with feet on bench. Dead hang and pull chest to bar.) Fantastic movement.
4. Lunge jumps for height alternating legs 1 x 8 for each leg. ( for power and explosiveness. These had me breathing like a race horse)
5. Military clean and press 1 x 6.

Then I went for a 3 mile run in the heat. I ran a good time but was limited by doing the lunge jumps prior.

Body weight stuff gets put down by bodybuilders but truth be told you can take the biggest steroid pro and reduce him to an exhausted mess by just doing stuff like push ups and burpees.
funny you should post this i was thinking myself about doing a timed circuit yesterday on my arm training. Used to do this a fair bit. 15 seconds work,( 10 seconds rest between exercises) and 1 minute rest between circuits doing 3-5 circuits(8 exercises). for arms a diffrent circuit of course. Here is a boxing circuit i used a lot when doing Ving tzun ( wing chun.)

Just 4 exercises repeated and no rest between except if you finish the shoulder press,upright rowing,and nieder press in under 1 minute.
Circuit done 6 times-NO stopping

jump rope 1 minute
crunches (bringing elbows and knees together) 1 minute
alternate shoulder press 10 reps,upright rowing 10 reps,Nieder press 10 reps.All done in 1 minute or less.
punch bag 1 minute.

this is a a great workout and if you have no box sack you can use alternate punches holding light weights. Most people need to rest between circuits but the idea is to work up to no rest !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on August 23, 2014, 04:33:39 AM
I think so too...thanks.  ;D  funny you should post this i was thinking myself about doing a timed circuit yesterday on my arm training. Used to do this a fair bit. 15 seconds work,( 10 seconds rest between exercises) and 1 minute rest between circuits doing 3-5 circuits(8 exercises). for arms a diffrent circuit of course. Here is a boxing circuit i used a lot when doing Ving tzun ( wing chun.)

Just 4 exercises repeated and no rest between except if you finish the shoulder press,upright rowing,and nieder press in under 1 minute.
Circuit done 6 times-NO stopping

jump rope 1 minute
crunches (bringing elbows and knees together) 1 minute
alternate shoulder press 10 reps,upright rowing 10 reps,Nieder press 10 reps.All done in 1 minute or less.
punch bag 1 minute.

this is a a great workout and if you have no box sack you can use alternate punches holding light weights. Most people need to rest between circuits but the idea is to work up to no rest !

Donny, I've thought about using a pair of dumbbells for light punching just to get in better shape and besides, outside of the obvious pain involved I think it would be kinda fun.  Like when I used to toss DBs into the air back and forth until I could no longer do it. Great bicep pump and really good for your grip.  And sort of like hitting yourself in the head.  Feels great when you stop!   ;D

But I really do think punching with DBs would be beneficial and am curious as to your thoughts on shoulder stress while doing the exercise as well as any other positive or negative thoughts on it.  Thanks!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 23, 2014, 06:15:34 AM
Donny, I've thought about using a pair of dumbbells for light punching just to get in better shape and besides, outside of the obvious pain involved I think it would be kinda fun.  Like when I used to toss DBs into the air back and forth until I could no longer do it. Great bicep pump and really good for your grip.  And sort of like hitting yourself in the head.  Feels great when you stop!   ;D

But I really do think punching with DBs would be beneficial and am curious as to your thoughts on shoulder stress while doing the exercise as well as any other positive or negative thoughts on it.  Thanks!
I did this to improve my endurance in holding my hands up. Doing the Nieder press you can use a Barbell plate or a medicine ball. arm swings with two light Dumbbells are another great exercise that no one does now.  you can use no weight on the punches if you do the circuit because by the time you do them your delts will be tired. Strength and endurance are trained. remember these exercise were used by us for Boxing purposes. I think if i was you i would get a heavy medicine ball to throw in the air rather than a Dumbbell  ;D  I think as long as you do some rear delt and upper back work on your weight days you should not have a problem with weighted Dumbbell punches. If you do try Dumbbell swings.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 23, 2014, 09:02:50 AM
I experience some digestion problems due my use of antibiotics en ibuprofen (infection), so I bought some Yakult light.
Do you guys use certain probiotics and do you experience benefits like better digestion, more energy, etc? If so, which brands are your favorites?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 23, 2014, 07:08:43 PM
I experience some digestion problems due my use of antibiotics en ibuprofen (infection), so I bought some Yakult light.
Do you guys use certain probiotics and do you experience benefits like better digestion, more energy, etc? If so, which brands are your favorites?

Of course I'm not a doctor but antibiotics can destroy good bacteria in your digestive track that can mess up your stomach.  Some are just hard like they are acidity. I suffered from stomach pain and digestive problems for 6 months. Looked like hell, had so many tests done and saw a bunch of doctors. I was on several medications. In the end it went away suddenly and strangely never came back. I did stop using protein powders and creatine. Could it be impurities in that crap that caused it? Supplements are not regulated in any way contrary to popular belief. Who knows where they sourced their materials from?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 23, 2014, 11:03:28 PM
Since arriving in Germany last Monday, I have been suffering from indigestion. Germans don'teat enough fiber. My son picked up some Metamucil at the ccommissary for me the other day. Hopefully the stomach cramps will subside soon.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 24, 2014, 12:21:56 AM
Of course I'm not a doctor but antibiotics can destroy good bacteria in your digestive track that can mess up your stomach.  Some are just hard like they are acidity. I suffered from stomach pain and digestive problems for 6 months. Looked like hell, had so many tests done and saw a bunch of doctors. I was on several medications. In the end it went away suddenly and strangely never came back. I did stop using protein powders and creatine. Could it be impurities in that crap that caused it? Supplements are not regulated in any way contrary to popular belief. Who knows where they sourced their materials from?

It can be hard to discover the true relationship between certain foods/supplements and health issues, but yeah, killing the right ones and impure supplements are possible scenarios.
It's not impossible to get my daily protein (250gr) from foods only, but far from convenient. I limit my whey to 7 small scoops/spoons and I choose unflavored powders only.
The thing is that most huge brands (Yakult, Danone, etc) have their own custom bacteria, but how well are they researched by independent authorities?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 24, 2014, 12:27:33 AM
Since arriving in Germany last Monday, I have been suffering from indigestion. Germans don'teat enough fiber. My son picked up some Metamucil at the ccommissary for me the other day. Hopefully the stomach cramps will subside soon.

I've been in Germany many times, and they have pretty dense bread, a bit Ezekiel like. My oat meal is from Hahne, which is a German brand, so that could be a good source as well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 24, 2014, 01:23:16 AM
I could just imagine itīs a bit of a shock to Jay the average diet here. We have a "health food  shop" near me and i go in there once/twice a week and buy a few items. Dropping plates mentioned Bread. I only eat vollkornbrot. if you go in the supermarkets here you can get enough good wholesome food. Buying it all the time from the Health shop is way too expensive.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 24, 2014, 01:29:03 AM
I've been in Germany many times, and they have pretty dense bread, a bit Ezekiel like. My oat meal is from Hahne, which is a German brand, so that could be a good source as well.
listen Cloggy... just send me some good cheese ;D Itīs a weakness i have i love cheese. I also eat lots of Quark.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 24, 2014, 01:51:34 AM
listen Cloggy... just send me some good cheese ;D Itīs a weakness i have i love cheese. I also eat lots of Quark.

I'm not a big cheese fan myself, apart from a thick pizza and quark every now and then.
Become friends with our Frau Antje, she visits Germany every year.

(http://www.beursgorilla.nl/images/nieuws-items/img-180111-340.onlineBild.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 24, 2014, 10:54:52 AM
was running through the woods today with a guy who i know from the gym. He looks in great shape and is an experienced lifter. In the Gym he does only HIIT cardio and never steady pace cardio. Today he really struggled on the steady run. i think a combination of Interval training and steady cardio is the key. I always do 2x a week Interval on the cross trainer and also steady pace running outside. opinions ??
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 24, 2014, 11:22:36 AM
was running through the woods today with a guy who i know from the gym. He looks in great shape and is an experienced lifter. In the Gym he does only HIIT cardio and never steady pace cardio. Today he really struggled on the steady run. i think a combination of Interval training and steady cardio is the key. I always do 2x a week Interval on the cross trainer and also steady pace running outside. opinions ??

It depends on what your goals are. I believe that you can be an 'OK lifter' and an 'OK runner', but a great lifter AND a great runner? Nearly impossible.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 24, 2014, 05:05:44 PM
I've been in Germany many times, and they have pretty dense bread, a bit Ezekiel like. My oat meal is from Hahne, which is a German brand, so that could be a good source as well.

The bread is good. It is the absence of vegetables that is the problem. At home, my diet is vegetable and fruit rich. Anyway, the metamucil has kicked in and all is better.

Today was my grandaughter's wedding. It has been a long day's celebration which b included lots of walking, a ton of food and an I credible amount of livation. Needless to say, nothing is bothering me at the moment. I danced my ass off tonight. I've had more flavors of schnapps then I knew exsisted. All is good.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 24, 2014, 07:42:30 PM
my son's 1st birthday party..lots of kids,adults 'lots of carona's,mike lemonade's,blue moon's..food ect,,of course his hands and face loaded in cake for 1st time ;D..

did legs early morning

supersetted leg press with hack squat ,,4 sets 10 reps each ,heavy weights

extensions with stair lunges x3 and 1 extra heavy set extensions

hams
stiff leeged dbells worked up to 85's  4 sets total
seated leg curls x3

calves
leg press x3
standing calf x3

tired from busy day and some alcohol 'lol'too tired to go into detail..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 25, 2014, 12:31:29 AM
Congratulations, Jay and Steve :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 25, 2014, 05:18:26 AM
Congratulations, Jay and Steve :)
x2 all the Best Guys.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 25, 2014, 09:05:08 AM
Chest tonight

Decline press 3-4 sets
Decline Flyes 3-4 sets
Incline BB press 3-4 sets
Incline flyes 3-4 sets

Abs: machine crunches 2-3 sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on August 25, 2014, 06:23:30 PM
Happy birthday to your son!


Today was back and chest.  Five sets each of ten reps on the following:

Lat pulldown.
Machine Rows.
Cable pullovers.
One arm machine rows.

Smith bench presses.
Incline Smith bench presses.
Dumbbell flys.
Machine flys.

Machine situps.

Not sore  yet but I should be by tomorrow morning when its time for shoulders and arms.

Again, happy first (!) birthday to the little one!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 25, 2014, 07:16:52 PM
On vacation so I'm doing just crap to get by. Yesterday the life guards a called everyone out of the water for sharks. I actually saw two of them about 4 to 5 feet long in two feet of water in South Carolina.

I did this workout in the condo gym yesterday.

Pulldowns 4 x 10
dumbbell rows 3 x 10
machine bench 4 x 10-4
flat flies 3 x 10
dumbbells shoulder press 3 x 10
dumbbells lateral raises 3 x 10
machine trap shrugs 2 x 10
rope triceps push downs 3 x 10
pulley bar curls 3 x 10

Then I went for a one mile run on the sand.  Drank a lot of beer but woke up looking tight and tan. Go figure.

Today I ran for 2.4 miles on a hilly street. I then did a very compromised leg routine. The condo gym had a smith machine. I tried doing squats on it but it didn't feel right. So I did this.

Dumbbell ass to grass squats upright 3 x 12
seated calf raise 3 x 15

This was done after the run.  Sat outside in incredible beautiful weather. Watch a rainbow over the water while drinking  grand mariner. One of the most beautiful places on earth. Love the Atlantic shore.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 25, 2014, 07:59:26 PM
good workouts all...thanks for the interest in my lil boy's day 8)...

chest day

fdb press with palm twist in at top 60/70/75/80
hammer lower/mid seated press 2 plates.2.5,and added some10's 3rd set
inc db superset with inc flyes..55/60/60..35/40/40 flyes
cable crossovers x3

tri's
dip machine 190/200/210 12/10/10
pushdowns 130/140/140 x10/10/10
single arm rope extensions x2
reverse grip pushdowns x3

abs

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 26, 2014, 05:16:41 AM
my son's 1st birthday party..lots of kids,adults 'lots of carona's,mike lemonade's,blue moon's..food ect,,of course his hands and face loaded in cake for 1st time ;D..

did legs early morning

supersetted leg press with hack squat ,,4 sets 10 reps each ,heavy weights

extensions with stair lunges x3 and 1 extra heavy set extensions

hams
stiff leeged dbells worked up to 85's  4 sets total
seated leg curls x3

calves
leg press x3
standing calf x3

tired from busy day and some alcohol 'lol'too tired to go into detail..

Happy birthday!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 26, 2014, 05:19:09 AM
The bread is good. It is the absence of vegetables that is the problem. At home, my diet is vegetable and fruit rich. Anyway, the metamucil has kicked in and all is better.

Today was my grandaughter's wedding. It has been a long day's celebration which b included lots of walking, a ton of food and an I credible amount of livation. Needless to say, nothing is bothering me at the moment. I danced my ass off tonight. I've had more flavors of schnapps then I knew exsisted. All is good.

Granddaughter's wedding? You should take the title of oldtimer.  Just having fun. Congratulations!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 26, 2014, 06:47:24 AM
so brothers of Iron Legs tonight with pre exhaust 

Leg extensions with
front squats 
leg curls with
Stiff legged deads

seated calf raises 5 sets

sets i will go by feel 3-5

cardio low intensity tonight maybe 20 mins crosstrainer. see how i feel  ;D 


 
 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 26, 2014, 06:48:42 AM
Happy birthday!
thanks..sounds like vaca was nice...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 26, 2014, 06:50:53 AM
so brothers of Iron Legs tonight with pre exhaust 

Leg extensions with
front squats 
leg curls with
Stiff legged deads

seated calf raises 5 sets

sets i will go by feel 3-5

cardio low intensity tonight maybe 20 mins crosstrainer. see how i feel  ;D 


 
 
nice...my kinda work..how many sets for each superset total..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 26, 2014, 06:54:28 AM
nice...my kinda work..how many sets for each superset total..
i normally do 3-4. 3 is the minimum. so 3 sets are with both exercises back to back so really 6.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 26, 2014, 08:06:23 AM
Granddaughter's wedding? You should take the title of oldtimer.  Just having fun. Congratulations!

You took it first or it would be mine. Come Thursday, I will be 70 years old. I'm still in Germany. This means there is a big party with lots of beer planned. The Bergermeister is coming and I was warned there may be a parade. My family back home say they have big plans too. So much for flying into my seventies under the radar.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 26, 2014, 08:10:37 AM
You took it first or it would be mine. Come Thursday, I will be 70 years old. I'm still in Germany. This means there is a big party with lots of beer planned. The Bergermeister is coming and I was warned there may be a parade. My family back home say they have big plans too. So much for flying into my seventies under the radar.
am i invited Jay...lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 26, 2014, 08:20:32 AM
am i invited Jay...lol

I am in Uettingen. Looking forward to seeing you.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 26, 2014, 08:35:25 AM
i normally do 3-4. 3 is the minimum. so 3 sets are with both exercises back to back so really 6.
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EXACTLY ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 26, 2014, 08:47:53 AM
I am in Uettingen. Looking forward to seeing you.
you are a good man.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 26, 2014, 09:26:51 AM
Keeping things in perspective, I want to explain that the Bergermeister is my daughter-in-law's brother. I suspect the talk of a birthday parade was a joke. Uettingen is hilly and my son's house is at the top of the hill. The beer and party are for real.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 26, 2014, 09:37:54 AM
Keeping things in perspective, I want to explain that the Bergermeister is my daughter-in-law's brother. I suspect the talk of a birthday parade was a joke. Uettingen is hilly and my son's house is at the top of the hill. The beer and party are for real.
thank you Jay.. Honestly. Details i have.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on August 26, 2014, 06:31:14 PM
4 sets of 10 reps each on dumbbell laterals, machine shoulder presses and machine rear delta.  Next up 6 sets of barbell curls followed by 5 sets of alternating dumbbell curls.

Six sets of tricep pushdown and five sets of close grip machine bench presses.  Rep range on both exercises was 5 to 10 reps per set.  Five sets each way of pulley wrist curls with a rep range of 5 to 20 reps per set and then finally 105 reps of machine sit ups.

Got told my leg brace is now on hold until they decide who is to pay for it.   I was supposed to pick it up on the 5th of September but no now as they stopped the process today.  i was looking forward to not looking like the Mummy when I walk.  Oh well.  Not the end of the world, just another first world frustration.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 27, 2014, 03:37:48 AM
4 sets of 10 reps each on dumbbell laterals, machine shoulder presses and machine rear delta.  Next up 6 sets of barbell curls followed by 5 sets of alternating dumbbell curls.

Six sets of tricep pushdown and five sets of close grip machine bench presses.  Rep range on both exercises was 5 to 10 reps per set.  Five sets each way of pulley wrist curls with a rep range of 5 to 20 reps per set and then finally 105 reps of machine sit ups.

Got told my leg brace is now on hold until they decide who is to pay for it.   I was supposed to pick it up on the 5th of September but no now as they stopped the process today.  i was looking forward to not looking like the Mummy when I walk.  Oh well.  Not the end of the world, just another first world frustration.


itīs always about Money. itīs getting worse here. if you have Private Insurance you get an Appointment much , much faster. still the Medical care is much better here than in the UK. I was lucky some years ago with my knee that i saw the Hospital Professor personally. My local Doctor was surprised because normally he just spoke to private Patients. He seemed to like Brits. Was a very old school sort of Guy but helped me a lot and the Doctor he got to operate was a very well known surgeon. So sometimes you just have to be lucky. Did a great job as my knee is perfect now. Hope they sort out the bureaucracy soon !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 27, 2014, 03:57:55 AM
Insurance makes a huge difference in quality of medical care in the States. When my wife's kidneys went kaput last January and she ended up in the hospital for 11 days, the bill was $65 k. Our copay was just a few hundred dollars. There is no copay after day 4.

Even with all the co pays for doctors, nursing facility and dialysis, our total out of pocket came to only $3,400 and we have maxed out on doctor and hospital co pays for the year.

Our insurance is a Medicare enhanced plus RX plan. Each of us pays about $165 a month premiums.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 27, 2014, 05:19:18 AM
so enough surfing on getbig i have to go to work...and work out..

Sternum chins 3-5 sets
BB rows 3-5 sets
one arm Cable rows or one arm DB rows 3-5 sets
BB pullovers 3-5 sets.

cardio: will do 45 mins and will use the cross trainer/Bike/rowing machine. 15 mins each machine. gives variety and the
Rowing will give my back a high rep workout at the end...i actually find rowing really punishes my grip and forearms.
 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 27, 2014, 08:29:36 AM
so enough surfing on getbig i have to go to work...and work out..

Sternum chins 3-5 sets
BB rows 3-5 sets
one arm Cable rows or one arm DB rows 3-5 sets
BB pullovers 3-5 sets.

cardio: will do 45 mins and will use the cross trainer/Bike/rowing machine. 15 mins each machine. gives variety and the
Rowing will give my back a high rep workout at the end...i actually find rowing really punishes my grip and forearms.
 
YOUR FORARMS WILL BENEFIT OR GET ACTION FROM BACK/ROWS WORK..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 27, 2014, 08:42:54 AM
YOUR FORARMS WILL BENEFIT OR GET ACTION FROM BACK/ROWS WORK..
Of course they do but at the end a high rep workout on the Rowing machine ..kills mine. Do it after a back workout and see how 15 mins feels ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 27, 2014, 08:47:01 AM
Of course they do but at the end a high rep workout on the Rowing machine ..kills mine. Do it after a back workout and see how 15 mins feels ;)
I do them after delts ,,back i'm sure will prekill them..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 27, 2014, 09:05:16 AM
I do them after delts ,,back i'm sure will prekill them..
Try it AFTER back. see how your lower arms feel.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 27, 2014, 01:53:15 PM
Limited by what I can do in this condo gym during vacation. I trained the upper body.


Seated cable rows 1 x 15
Machine rows 4 x 10
Pulldowns 4 x 10

dips 3 x max
machine flies 4 x 10
machine bench press 1 x 6

delt lateral dumbbell raises 3 x 12
military press in the smith machine 2 x 6
military press on some kind of multi gym 1 x 8
shrugs 1 x 10 using the bench press station of the multi gym.

rope tricep pushdowns 3 x 12
bar pulley curls 3 x 10

I'm sure we have all been on vacation and you just wing it with what's available.

I was planning on doing cardio but I literally spent hours in the ocean body surfing. Just shot. Soon it will be cocktail time.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 27, 2014, 07:57:46 PM
back..very pumped moved quick and heavy..
chins.. wide/inner/wide/inner sets 12
inner grip  t bar rows chest to pad ..2 plates ..2.5/2.5.. 10/9/8
low pully rows cable single handles done together x3
behind neck pulldowns x4

weighted hypers..x3

bi's
seated scott curls machine x3
curl bar curls premade bar 70/80/80 superset with hammers 35 dbs 10x10
cable curls x3

abs 25-30 reps lying crunch machine x5
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 27, 2014, 08:28:34 PM
I was planning on doing cardio but I literally spent hours in the ocean body surfing.

It must be great to have that possibility.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on August 27, 2014, 08:30:39 PM
1 already? Damn we're getting old.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 28, 2014, 12:33:53 AM
Happy birthday jay ... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 28, 2014, 12:40:46 AM
Happy birthday jay ... ;D

70 years, almost older than Wes... congratulations/herzlichen glückwunsch Jay!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 28, 2014, 05:53:29 AM
Happy birthday!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 28, 2014, 05:55:52 AM
1 already? Damn we're getting old.
:D,,,YEAH HE'S TAKING A FEW STEPS TOO...HE'S FEISTY..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 28, 2014, 03:12:15 PM
Thanks for the birthday wishes. I've enjoyed a spectacular day with friends and family here in Uettingen. Too bad Donny couldn't get off work to join us.

My next visit to Germany, I plan to make sure we get together. I'm told he is just 2 hours away from here.

Headed home to Oregon on Sunday. My wife told me to be prepared to celebrate my birthday again once I am home. It is great to be so loved. I am truly a lucky man.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 28, 2014, 07:44:39 PM
Thanks for the birthday wishes. I've enjoyed a spectacular day with friends and family here in Uettingen. Too bad Donny couldn't get off work to join us.

My next visit to Germany, I plan to make sure we get together. I'm told he is just 2 hours away from here.

Headed home to Oregon on Sunday. My wife told me to be prepared to celebrate my birthday again once I am home. It is great to be so loved. I am truly a lucky man.
nice  jay happy bday,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on August 28, 2014, 08:31:28 PM
Thanks for the birthday wishes. I've enjoyed a spectacular day with friends and family here in Uettingen. Too bad Donny couldn't get off work to join us.

My next visit to Germany, I plan to make sure we get together. I'm told he is just 2 hours away from here.

Headed home to Oregon on Sunday. My wife told me to be prepared to celebrate my birthday again once I am home. It is great to be so loved. I am truly a lucky man.

From the heart, I envy you.  Be well, not only on the day of your birth but on every day that God grants you up to and including the one He calls you home.  And when that day comes, go without fear but with joy in the knowledge that loved ones long gone wait for you as you shall wait for those still here.

You are a good man.  I would never say so if I did not think it to be true. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 28, 2014, 08:34:03 PM
delts/forearms

delt press machine'stack type'wide grip  3 sets and 1 drop

side lateralsdrops 30/25/15 x3 each set 8-10..sick pump

cable uprights x3

rear delts machine x4

incline lying face down on bench front raises db 15' lb's..

shrugs
225 x12,,275 x12,,315 x10,,275 x12,225x20

cable reverse wrist curls x2,bar reverse wrist curls x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 28, 2014, 08:35:03 PM
From the heart, I envy you.  Be well, not only on the day of your birth but on every day that God grants you up to and including the one He calls you home.  And when that day comes, go without fear but with joy in the knowledge that loved ones long gone wait for you as you shall wait for those still here.

You are a good man.  I would never say so if I did not think it to be true. 
8),,,the scott..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 29, 2014, 01:49:59 AM
Arms today+ abs

BB curls 3 sets
incline dB curls 3 sets
Concentration curls 3 sets

lying DB extensions 3 sets
incline BB extensions 3 sets
Lying close grip BB Kickbacks 3 sets

Machine crunch with hanging knee raises 3 sets. 30 mins interval training on bike. lying BB kickbacks are a bit harder to master than with a cable or Dumbbells. Just threw them in for a change.




Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on August 29, 2014, 10:58:14 AM
Arms today.....9 AM (central european time), in my private homegym....

standing dumbell curls, 3 warm-up sets, 2 working sets, 8 + 6 reps
EZ-Bar-Curls, 1 warm-up set, 2 working sets, 14 + 9 reps
dumbell-curls on incline bench, 1 warm-up, 2 working sets, 12 + 10 reps
Cabel-Curls, 2 sets, 18 + 14 reps

Triceps-pushdown on lat-pulldown machine, 4 wqarm-up sets, 2 working sets, 12 + 10 reps
Dips, warm-up 1 x Bodyweight, workings sets BW + 40 lbs dumbell for 18 reps, BW + 50 lbs. dumbell for 15 reps
Dumbell extensions behind head, 2 working sets, 15 + 12 reps
Rope-extensions on cqable station, 3 high rep sets

age 51, current Bodyweight 245 lbs., 6 "2", + natty, training 34 years.....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 29, 2014, 02:12:47 PM
Very impressive.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on August 29, 2014, 08:40:19 PM
Nice! A newcomer to the mature thread.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 30, 2014, 02:37:33 AM
yes wellcome to the last Bastion of Physical Culture ! ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 30, 2014, 06:16:04 AM
so iīve been really lazy today..iīm "monging" on my couch.. nearly sleeping. looks like itīs going to rain but i have to get up and go for a run.. i need fresh air. On a positive note my son is in the Town here with his friends and will bring me my favourit Chinese meal back... :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on August 30, 2014, 06:57:17 AM
yes wellcome to the last Bastion of Physical Culture ! ;)

You've got that right, my friend!   ;D  There is today's bodydoping and then there is physical culture. I will take the latter every time because it lasts.  It's real.  And the reason for the first two is because it is what we do, we do with what was given us from God, Nature and our parents.  Not a bottle or syringe. Do I believe in HRT for those that need it? Yup.  But outside a lesbian bull dyke claiming sHe is now a He, I don't see how anyone of a rational mind can state grams of drugs each week are what's needed to be who we are. 

Men.  Shit, I don't see how a woman can claim to be a woMan and thereby need male hormones, but I digress...Again. ;D

And speaking of which, yesterday I did shoulders and arms.  17 sets of very light DB laterals, machine presses and machine rear delts followed by 24 total sets of arm work consisting of 6 sets of 5 to 15 reps on the BB curl followed by 6  sets of alternating DB curls.

Then 6 sets of tricep pushdowns and 6 sets of machine close grip benches.  The usual 5 sets each way of wrist curls on the pullies and a few sets of machine sit ups.  Feeling better with each workout.

Welcome to Charlys69 and of course to our own version of Milo, chaos. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on August 30, 2014, 07:00:07 AM
Tomorrow I fly home. It has been a great visit. Part of me is sad to be leaving and another p art is excited to see my family back home. I need to win the lotto so I can buy a private jet.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on August 30, 2014, 07:31:37 AM
Today training at 11 AM (CET) in Bonn/Germany in a local Gym with Life-Fitness & Hammer-Strength equipment. Cardio + Chest + front + side delts.

warm-up, Cardio 15 Minutes life-fitness bike....level 1 up to level 18, starting at level 1 (very easy), and up the levels every 30-40 seconds....last 2 minutes back down to level 10.

Chest, first: 2 light sets for the rotator cuff, rotating outside....

incline bench press, starting with just the bar....., 60kg, 80kg,100 kg, 120 kg x 16 reps, 140 kg x 10
Hammer-Strength decline bench press, 2x44īs, 4x4īs, 6x44īs, 6/44 + 2/22 x 15 reps
Life-Fitness "fly-machine", seated, 89 kg, 131 kg, 143 kg (full stack + 2 x 2,5 kg extra plates) x 14 reps, 143 + 20 kg plate, total 163 kg x 9 reps

Front-lateral, dumbells, 10kg, 15 kg, 2 sets with 22,5 kg (each dumbell)
side-lateral-machine Life-Fitness, 2 warm-up sets, 95 kg (full stack) x 12 reps, 100 kg (95 + 2 x 2,5kg) x 9 reps
Arnold press, 2 medium heavy dumbells (30 kg) donīt count...up to faillure....

in 2 weeks i may will post some pics when iīm training in Thailand......

have a good weekend & thanks for welcome me in this thread......iīm still 51, but not feeling like "mature..."

Charly
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on August 31, 2014, 04:58:45 PM
was away few days with wife only  :D,,few days in atlantic city,,lost money  :-..ate at some nice resteraunts and drank a bit,trained legs a bit in the gym there they had good cybex machines,,got some sun,lost more money  :'(,,missed the kids...sorta ;D...one thing its like vegas in these hotels 'the tropicana or the trop as its called has shops,fountains,clubs,bars all under 3 buildings awesome,,the smoke was very bad,,very bad,,most if not all nj establishments are all smoke free..whats the norm now is girls getting married have there bachlorette parties for weekends there and thats all u see is hot young soon to be married girls,and some older girls getting away with the 'girls'away from husbands/boyfriends also very hot ones..its crazy..considering i ate crappy a tad body still kept lean ,i felt soft..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on August 31, 2014, 10:05:59 PM
was away few days with wife only  :D,,few days in atlantic city,,lost money  :-..ate at some nice resteraunts and drank a bit,trained legs a bit in the gym there they had good cybex machines,,got some sun,lost more money  :'(,,missed the kids...sorta ;D...one thing its like vegas in these hotels 'the tropicana or the trop as its called has shops,fountains,clubs,bars all under 3 buildings awesome,,the smoke was very bad,,very bad,,most if not all nj establishments are all smoke free..whats the norm now is girls getting married have there bachlorette parties for weekends there and thats all u see is hot young soon to be married girls,and some older girls getting away with the 'girls'away from husbands/boyfriends also very hot ones..its crazy..considering i ate crappy a tad body still kept lean ,i felt soft..
good to see you Steve, you gotta have fun sometimes. Good for your well being.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 01, 2014, 09:52:29 AM
I think tonight i will go back to an Antagonistic workout.

Chest + Back supersets

Incline BB press/wide grip pull downs

flat DB Flyes/close grip cable rows

Flat DB press/BB rows

This should work well i think. Get my Heart pumping too. I think each superset 3 sets per ex. should stimulate :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 01, 2014, 05:28:51 PM
Trained chest and back today. I kept the weight down and tried to make it harder with a fast pace and good form.

Chins 2 x max
Low V bar cable lat rows 2 x 12
One arm dumbbell rows on a bench 2 x 10
Reverse grip pull downs 2 x 10

Flat bench with a barbell 2 x 6 then 1 x 1
Incline barbell bench 2 x 6
dumbbell flies 2 x 10
Push ups 2 x max (one set regular and one set with perfect push up bars)

Dead lift 2 x 4 then 1 x 1
Weighted back extensions 2 x 12

Flat floor crunches 1 x 50

Then floated in the pool drinking 3 beers. I have to stop drinking. I would be really lean without the beer but would I be happy?

NJFlex, glad you had a good time in Atlantic city. I'm going to Harrah's at the end of the month. I like their club Eden. I dance with the wife like a fool in front of the band.  I guess for the younger crowd the night club that surrounds the indoor pool is the place to go but I feel to old to party there.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 02, 2014, 05:41:13 AM
Trained chest and back today. I kept the weight down and tried to make it harder with a fast pace and good form.

Chins 2 x max
Low V bar cable lat rows 2 x 12
One arm dumbbell rows on a bench 2 x 10
Reverse grip pull downs 2 x 10

Flat bench with a barbell 2 x 6 then 1 x 1
Incline barbell bench 2 x 6
dumbbell flies 2 x 10
Push ups 2 x max (one set regular and one set with perfect push up bars)

Dead lift 2 x 4 then 1 x 1
Weighted back extensions 2 x 12

Flat floor crunches 1 x 50

Then floated in the pool drinking 3 beers. I have to stop drinking. I would be really lean without the beer but would I be happy?

NJFlex, glad you had a good time in Atlantic city. I'm going to Harrah's at the end of the month. I like their club Eve. I dance with the wife like a fool in front of the band.  I guess for the younger crowd the night club that surrounds the indoor pool is the place to go but I feel to old to party there.
yes great time.. incredible how theses casinos are little cities inside hotel..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 05:43:33 AM
Trained chest and back today. I kept the weight down and tried to make it harder with a fast pace and good form.

Chins 2 x max
Low V bar cable lat rows 2 x 12
One arm dumbbell rows on a bench 2 x 10
Reverse grip pull downs 2 x 10

Flat bench with a barbell 2 x 6 then 1 x 1
Incline barbell bench 2 x 6
dumbbell flies 2 x 10
Push ups 2 x max (one set regular and one set with perfect push up bars)

Dead lift 2 x 4 then 1 x 1
Weighted back extensions 2 x 12

Flat floor crunches 1 x 50

Then floated in the pool drinking 3 beers. I have to stop drinking. I would be really lean without the beer but would I be happy?

NJFlex, glad you had a good time in Atlantic city. I'm going to Harrah's at the end of the month. I like their club Eve. I dance with the wife like a fool in front of the band.  I guess for the younger crowd the night club that surrounds the indoor pool is the place to go but I feel to old to party there.
Do you see an advantage in the Perfect push up bars you use rather than standard ones? Rotating your Hands? I use normal ones like below.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 05:44:24 AM
I think you use these ?
https://perfectpushup.com/
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 02, 2014, 06:05:45 AM
CHEST
FDB PRESS 2 WARM UPS WITH 45'S...60/75/80/80
INC DB WITH INC FLYE SUPERSETS 60/60/60..40/40/40 SICK PUMP
SEATED HAMMER PRESS 2 PLATES,2.5,3 PLATES
CABLE CROSSOVERS X3
PULLOVERS WITH STRAIGHT BAR..X3

TRIS
SUPERSETS

CLOSE GRIP WITH ROPE PUSHDOWNS X3
DIP MACHINE WITH TRICEP EXTENSION MACHINE X3
CABLE KICKBACKS X2

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 02, 2014, 06:09:20 AM
I think you use these ?
https://perfectpushup.com/

I HAVE THEM..THERE GOOD AND ONE U USE TOO..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 06:18:13 AM
CHEST
FDB PRESS 2 WARM UPS WITH 45'S...60/75/80/80
INC DB WITH INC FLYE SUPERSETS 60/60/60..40/40/40 SICK PUMP
SEATED HAMMER PRESS 2 PLATES,2.5,3 PLATES
CABLE CROSSOVERS X3
PULLOVERS WITH STRAIGHT BAR..X3

TRIS
SUPERSETS

CLOSE GRIP WITH ROPE PUSHDOWNS X3
DIP MACHINE WITH TRICEP EXTENSION MACHINE X3
CABLE KICKBACKS X2

ABS

Solid workout .. get them straight Bar pull overs in there  :) Tri supersets after chest..Brutal. Yes i like normal push up bars too. infact before i got them i just used two thick books ;D still worked.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 02, 2014, 07:11:50 AM
Solid workout .. get them straight Bar pull overs in there  :) Tri supersets after chest..Brutal. Yes i like normal push up bars too. infact before i got them i just used two thick books ;D still worked.

Just be careful not to over flex your hands. Onetime I was doing pushups using three chairs, so that I could hyperextend at the bottom of the movement, really stretching the pecs. I ended up pulling something in one of my hands which swelled up and looked like a cow's utter. It also hurt like heck. It took several days to go away. There was no permanent damage though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 07:17:20 AM
Just be careful not to over flex your hands. Onetime I was doing pushups using three chairs, so that I could hyperextend at the bottom of the movement, really stretching the pecs. I ended up pulling something in one of my hands which swelled up and looked like a cow's utter. It also hurt like heck. It took several days to go away. There was no permanent damage though.
i just like with the Bars i can rotate my hands slightly inwards. Although normal push ups do work perfect too. Range of motion is a bit more so i think plus+minus points really.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 02, 2014, 10:23:30 AM
Donny, what ever possible advantage to the perfect pushup bars are slight. They give a greater range of motion but I believe it takes away slightly from the weight you are using by putting more weight on your feet.  The grips are fantastic with the perfect push up bars. Really sticky type rubber. The grip does rotate to the natural place your hands want to go. To reiterate what ever advantage they give you is slight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 10:30:10 AM
Donny, what ever possible advantage to the perfect pushup bars are slight. They give a greater range of motion but I believe it takes away slightly from the weight you are using by putting more weight on your feet.  The grips are fantastic with the perfect push up bars. Really sticky type rubber. The grip does rotate to the natural place your hands want to go. To reiterate what ever advantage they give you is slight.
push ups are still king in my opinion. Love them. After a chest workout just pushing out reps. Or with dips ..great.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 03, 2014, 02:38:03 AM
Home Gym leg workout Today..

Pre-exhaust...

leg extensions/Front squats
Lying leg curls/stiff deadlifts

I will finish off with Step ups on my Bench holding DBs or a weight plate in each hand. I find step up much the same as lunges but Lunges i do not like doing ;D I will finish off with some one legged calf raises holding a DB. Then Crunches on the floor for 2-3 sets of Max reps. Cardio will be a Bike ride to really finish off my quads. A few Hills on the route to work calfs as well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 03, 2014, 02:41:53 AM
Another forgotten Exercise for Home Gym trainers is the One-legged Squat. Standing on your Bench holding on to a support or bar resting on the Bar supports..One leg hanging off the bench and squat. Not hard enough? Use a loaded Dipping belt or hold a weight... now tell me itīs not Hard. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 03, 2014, 04:52:06 AM
Another forgotten Exercise for Home Gym trainers is the One-legged Squat. Standing on your Bench holding on to a support or bar resting on the Bar supports..One leg hanging off the bench and squat. Not hard enough? Use a loaded Dipping belt or hold a weight... now tell me itīs not Hard. ;)

You have to be really strong to do a full one leg squat. I see them referred to as a pistol in the body weight training community. I saw a skinny but fit guy doing them not holding onto anything with the opposite leg just extended. He went all the way down for his reps. Very impressive. You need balance and strength for this. In my twenties I could do a couple but not now.

Yesterday was a rest day from the gym but I ran 2.5 miles in 94 degree heat. My time was slow but excusing myself because of the heat and joint issues. I came home and did a mini workout in my basement of this.

Heavy bag 2 x 3 minute rounds (Haven't hit the bag in about a year due to a bad shoulder. I really felt I lost my snap and power but on the last round it got better. Going to work on this power exercise hard again.)

I then did a tri set for two sets of the listed exercises.

1. Revolving handle pull ups
2. Push ups
3. body weight rows facing the ceiling grabbing a bar with feet supported.

On an egotistical note I looked in the mirror after my run and weight free workout and I liked what I saw. I am my most harsh critic. I'm 55 and always drug free. I don't look like a bodybuilder but if I can egotistically say, I do have a good build. I hope I'm not delusional but I have a good build for any age but especially my age.  I'm sure syringe users would disagree but I consider myself an athlete in training and not a bodybuilder.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 03, 2014, 04:59:58 AM
You have to be really strong to do a full one leg squat. I see them referred to as a pistol in the body weight training community. I saw a skinny but fit guy doing them not holding onto anything with the opposite leg just extended. He went all the way down for his reps. Very impressive. You need balance and strength for this. In my twenties I could do a couple but not now.

Yesterday was a rest day from the gym but I ran 2.5 miles in 94 degree heat. My time was slow but excusing myself because of the heat and joint issues. I came home and did a mini workout in my basement of this.

Heavy bag 2 x 3 minute rounds (Haven't hit the bag in about a year due to a bad shoulder. I really felt I lost my snap and power but on the last round it got better. Going to work on this power exercise hard again.)

I then did a tri set for two sets of the listed exercises.

1. Revolving handle pull ups
2. Push ups
3. body weight rows facing the ceiling grabbing a bar with feet supported.

On an egotistical note I looked in the mirror after my run and weight free workout and I liked what I saw. I am my most harsh critic. I'm 55 and always drug free. I don't look like a bodybuilder but if I can egotistically say, I do have a good build. I hope I'm not delusional but I have a good build for any age but especially my age.  I'm sure syringe users would disagree but I consider myself an athlete in training and not a bodybuilder.
nothing wrong with what you are doing. A lot of guys in their 20s canīt do chins or what you are doing. On the One legged squats itīs easier doing them off a Bench and holding onto a bar. The variation you describe is harder.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 03, 2014, 05:15:11 AM
check this Guy out.. i did one legged squats on a Balancing Board for knee stability training years ago after a knee Op but i see no real need to do stunts like this in the Gym.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 03, 2014, 07:28:39 AM
I think you use these ?
https://perfectpushup.com/

Another gadget... Why not use dumbbells (round or hex), eventually combined with thick bar grips?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 03, 2014, 07:33:15 AM
Another gadget... Why not use dumbbells (round or hex), eventually combined with thick bar grips?
I have and i have even tried push ups using two loaded barbells doing a type of "fly" rolling outwards. I combined a push up with a Fly movement. one rep push up and then next rep a "roll out fly". It works.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 03, 2014, 08:29:14 AM
I have and i have even tried push ups using two loaded barbells doing a type of "fly" rolling outwards. I combined a push up with a Fly movement. one rep push up and then next rep a "roll out fly". It works.

Pretty creative.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on September 03, 2014, 09:28:47 AM
I have and i have even tried push ups using two loaded barbells doing a type of "fly" rolling outwards. I combined a push up with a Fly movement. one rep push up and then next rep a "roll out fly". It works.
Try furniture moving pads.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 03, 2014, 09:33:07 AM
Try furniture moving pads.
really ? good idea.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on September 03, 2014, 12:18:16 PM
really ? good idea.
Yeah. They're pretty slick on the bottom and the hands/arms can go any direction you want.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 04, 2014, 10:39:07 AM
BACK

CHINS INNER/WIDE/INNER/WIDE,,,THESES GET THINGS GOING,GREAT PUMP ,,12 REPS MINIMUM..
TBAR ROW OLD SCHOOL FRONT LOADED KING,2 PLATES/3 PLATES/3.5/3 AND 35 LB PLATE..10/10/10/8 HEAVY STUFF
CABLE ROWS LOWER X3
BEHIND NECK PULLDOWNS X3..LIKING THESE OLD SCHOOLERS AGAIN...
ROPE PULLS TO WAIST WITH CABLE ..GOOD FINISHER

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3

BI'S
CURL BAR CURLS WITH HAMMERS DB...GREAT PUMP  PREMADE BAR 70/80/80 ..30/35/35
SEATED CURL MACHINE X3
STANDING CABLE GIRLS SINGLE GRIP X3

ABS 5 SETS OF 30 CRUNCH MACHINE
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 04, 2014, 11:07:26 AM
When these young pups now talk about core strength..guys like me and you steve were doing it with T bar rows unsupported and barbell rows
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 04, 2014, 11:57:13 AM
When these young pups now talk about core strength..guys like me and you steve were doing it with T bar rows unsupported and barbell rows
YEAH...AGAIN A BARBELL ROW 1ST,,THE T BAR PUTS YOU IN NATURAL ROW POSITION,EVEN THO I SEE YOUNG MORONS OR JUST DUMB PEOPLE STANDING UPRIGHT PRACTICALLY DOING THEM...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 04, 2014, 07:07:07 PM
Trained legs yesterday. No warm ups listed.

Leg press 2 x 15 (kept back board low for a greater range)
Squats 2 x 10
leg extensions 2 x 20
seated leg curls 2 x 15
Standing leg curls 2 x 10

Side bends with one dumbbell 1 x 15 (I know this is  bodybuilding blasphemy)
Hanging leg raises 2 x max
machine crunches 2 x 30 ( I sit in a pulldown machine backwards. Holding a V handle bar behind my head I do crunches seated. Fantastic way to crunch)

Leg press calf raises 2 x 20
standing calf raise 2 x 15
Leverage machine standing 1 x 15 ( has a different feel from the other standing)
Seated calf 2 x 15 (My calves are almost non existent.)
Tibalis raise 1 x 20

Neck work

That leg routine was yesterday. Today I ran 2.1 miles. I just can't run fast with my joint issues. Ran sluggish 8 something minute miles. Hopefully my knee and Achilles problems will calm down soon.

After the run soaking wet I did two 3 minute rounds of heavy bag work. I feel some snap is coming back to my hits but I need a lot more work.

After the heavy bag I did my tri set for two sets of the following.

D Ring revolving handle pullups for max reps
push ups for max. One regular the second with perfect push up handles.
Reverse body weight rows. (If you dead hang and pull all the way up they are tough.)

Tomorrow is delt and arms. My wife wants to go to a beach restaurant for lunch. They have tables on the sand. I can't stay away from drinking. LOL.

Yes, Donny those are the push up handles I use. Love the grip on them. The freely revolving handle goes right to the right spot your body wants to do the push up in.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 05, 2014, 04:53:51 AM
Tonight shoulders + arms

BB press 4 sets
Side raises 4 sets
Bent over raises 4 sets

BB curls 5 sets
Incline curls 3 sets
Incline BB extensions 5 sets
Close grip push ups 3x max

Incline twisting sit ups 2 x20-30

Run on the streets about 45-50 mins
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 05, 2014, 04:57:46 AM
Trained legs yesterday. No warm ups listed.

Leg press 2 x 15 (kept back board low for a greater range)
Squats 2 x 10
leg extensions 2 x 20
seated leg curls 2 x 15
Standing leg curls 2 x 10

Side bends with one dumbbell 1 x 15 (I know this is  bodybuilding blasphemy)
Hanging leg raises 2 x max
machine crunches 2 x 30 ( I sit in a pulldown machine backwards. Holding a V handle bar behind my head I do crunches seated. Fantastic way to crunch)

Leg press calf raises 2 x 20
standing calf raise 2 x 15
Leverage machine standing 1 x 15 ( has a different feel from the other standing)
Seated calf 2 x 15 (My calves are almost non existent.)
Tibalis raise 1 x 20

Neck work

That leg routine was yesterday. Today I ran 2.1 miles. I just can't run fast with my joint issues. Ran sluggish 8 something minute miles. Hopefully my knee and Achilles problems will calm down soon.

After the run soaking wet I did two 3 minute rounds of heavy bag work. I feel some snap is coming back to my hits but I need a lot more work.

After the heavy bag I did my tri set for two sets of the following.

D Ring revolving handle pullups for max reps
push ups for max. One regular the second with perfect push up handles.
Reverse body weight rows. (If you dead hang and pull all the way up they are tough.)

Tomorrow is delt and arms. My wife wants to go to a beach restaurant for lunch. They have tables on the sand. I can't stay away from drinking. LOL.

Yes, Donny those are the push up handles I use. Love the grip on them. The freely revolving handle goes right to the right spot your body wants to do the push up in.
Body weight rows are great, I do them now and again too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 05, 2014, 04:04:54 PM
Did this workout today.  Delt and arms. No warm up listed.

Press behind neck. (warmed up but my shoulders hurt so much I had to stop)
Dumbbell presses 2 x 10
Dumbbell lateral raise 2 x 10
Single D handle lateral pulley raise 1 x 10
Rear Dumbbell lateral raise 2 x 10
Front barbell delt raise 1 x 10
Barbell shrugs 2 x 10

EZ curl barbell curl 2 x 10
Pulley bar curls 2 x 10
Concentration dumbbell curls 2 x 10

Pulley tricep push downs 2 x 10
Single dumbell tricep extensions 2 x 10
rope pushdowns 2 x 10

Forearm wrist curls 2 x 20
Reverse wrist extensions 2 x 15

weighted crunches with feet on bench 1 x 55
machine crunches 2 x 20

Grip work with an Ivanko gripper 2 x 20

Then ate lunch with the wife at an amazing beach restaurant. Amazing for the incredible views and not the food that was just average.  The cars in the parking lot were off the chart expensive. Bentleys, MB, Porsche and a brand new top of the line Corvette. I felt out of place parking my new but very ordinary Camry there. After lunch we drove to the Asbury Park boardwalk for a couple of beers. For those out of the loop it's where so many legends in rock got there start in the hell hole rock bars there. It also has a big gay community. Drove home and drank beer in my pool. I will never be really ripped until I stop drinking beer but hey, I work hard and I party hard.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 05, 2014, 07:43:04 PM
delts

front press...135/155/165-135-115 drop finish
side raises 25/30/35/35-25 drop
front raises underhanded with curlbar 50/50/60
rear laterals bent over cable raises x3
upright rows x3 70/80 premade bar

shrugs
225/275/295/295
reverse  behind back 225/275

forarms
4 sets superset reverse wrist cable curls and single hand wrist curls palms flexed foward/down

calved 5 set standing calf raises
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 06, 2014, 10:07:17 AM
delts

front press...135/155/165-135-115 drop finish
side raises 25/30/35/35-25 drop
front raises underhanded with curlbar 50/50/60
rear laterals bent over cable raises x3
upright rows x3 70/80 premade bar

shrugs
225/275/295/295
reverse  behind back 225/275

forarms
4 sets superset reverse wrist cable curls and single hand wrist curls palms flexed foward/down

calved 5 set standing calf raises
Good Drills.. I just went for a relaxing swim in the local Baths today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 06, 2014, 10:14:15 AM
Good Drills.. I just went for a relaxing swim in the local Baths today.
ENJOY DONNY...WORKING TODAY'SATURDAY' :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 06, 2014, 10:20:25 AM
ENJOY DONNY...WORKING TODAY'SATURDAY' :-\
i work Sunday Evenings... :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 07, 2014, 02:52:58 AM
Sunday Motivation.... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 07, 2014, 08:56:38 AM
Did absolutely nothing physical yesterday. Maybe the same today. Just spend from working out and drinking Friday and Saturday. Monday I'll hit it hard.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 07, 2014, 09:06:01 AM
Did absolutely nothing physical yesterday. Maybe the same today. Just spend from working out and drinking Friday and Saturday. Monday I'll hit it hard.
when i finish work  iīll do 30 mins Interval on the cross trainer... wait and see. I like the pain !! ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 07, 2014, 10:46:51 AM
Scotland Vs Germany ....Football....come on lads.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 07, 2014, 02:55:55 PM
Ran three slow miles this Sunday. I feel at least I did something. Tomorrow is chest and back.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 07, 2014, 06:09:46 PM
leg day

hack squats warmed 2 plates ..stretched a bit,,,,then 3 /4/5/6 for 8 was freaken heavy wrapped knees tho..
lying leg sled 200/240/280 all for sets 10
walking lunges 80 lb bar/weight
extensions in high gear 220/235/250 12 per set..

hams
supersetted ham curls with stiff legged x4


calves
leg press x3
seated x5
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on September 07, 2014, 07:52:47 PM
Any of you old guys ever do the big 3 every workout? Alternate light/heavy high/low reps?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 07, 2014, 08:08:44 PM
Any of you old guys ever do the big 3 every workout? Alternate light/heavy high/low reps?
squats ,,fall/winter i start heavy/or what you mentioned mix 3 light/heavy/med reps for squats..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on September 07, 2014, 08:10:51 PM
squats ,,fall/winter i start heavy/or what you mentioned mix 3 light/heavy/med reps for squats..
I mean squat/bench/dead or some form of each every workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 07, 2014, 08:13:05 PM
I mean squat/bench/dead or some form of each every workout.
no.sorry..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on September 07, 2014, 08:15:16 PM
no.sorry..
I've tried deads/squats, but not all three.
Thinking of trying it for a few weeks.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 08, 2014, 01:19:20 AM
I've tried deads/squats, but not all three.
Thinking of trying it for a few weeks.
iīve done short workouts Ala Stuart mcrobert such as (Workout1) squat,bench press,pullup.....(workout 2)seated press,deadlifts,dips. worked well. Donīt think iīve done Benches with deads,squats. work it all though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 08, 2014, 07:56:52 AM
Today i did chest:

flat DB press 3 sets
flat flyes 3 sets
Incline BB press 3 sets
incline Flyes 3 sets

crunches 3x max, one legged DB calf raise 3x10-15
Run in the woods for cardio direct after my workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 08, 2014, 08:22:29 AM
Anyone get anxiety prior to a work out? Sitting here wasting time on this site knowing I have a killer back and chest workout coming. Feeling the stress. A friend told me it's because every time I train I go for broke instead of having some coasting workouts. I guess it's my obsessive personality. Just full of anxiety. Just have to put 135lbs on the bar and start my power clean warm ups.  >:(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 08, 2014, 08:35:25 AM
Anyone get anxiety prior to a work out? Sitting here wasting time on this site knowing I have a killer back and chest workout coming. Feeling the stress. A friend told me it's because every time I train I go for broke instead of having some coasting workouts. I guess it's my obsessive personality. Just full of anxiety. Just have to put 135lbs on the bar and start my power clean warm ups.  >:(
youīre an Animal .. ;D DO IT !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 08, 2014, 08:47:22 AM
MY LEGS/GLUTES/HAMS ARE FRIED TODAY/SORE TODAY BAD..THOSE SQUAT HACKS ARE BRUTAL..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on September 08, 2014, 09:25:44 AM
Anyone get anxiety prior to a work out? Sitting here wasting time on this site knowing I have a killer back and chest workout coming. Feeling the stress. A friend told me it's because every time I train I go for broke instead of having some coasting workouts. I guess it's my obsessive personality. Just full of anxiety. Just have to put 135lbs on the bar and start my power clean warm ups.  >:(
Every squat or deadlift day. Rarely on the other days.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 08, 2014, 10:21:42 AM
 
MY LEGS/GLUTES/HAMS ARE FRIED TODAY/SORE TODAY BAD..THOSE SQUAT HACKS ARE BRUTAL..
ha ha ..enjoy it.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 08, 2014, 10:30:40 AM
I did this workout today.Think I over did it. Feeling sick/exhausted. Maybe I'm not a kid anymore.  ;D

No warm ups listed.

Power cleans 2 x 6

pull ups 2 x max
wide grip seated low pulley rows 2 x 12
single dumbbell rows off a bench 2 x 10
reverse grip pulldowns 2 x10

flat dumbbell bench 2 x 6
Incline dumbbell bench 2 x 8
flat flies 2 x 10
Push ups 2 x max

semi stiff leg deadlifts off a block 2 x 6
weighted hyper extensions 2 x  15

weighted flat floor crunches 1 x 40
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 08, 2014, 11:04:59 AM
-Just checking in and saying hi to you all. Keep up the good work. I am headed out for a walk up the hill in a little while. The good news is the walk home is all down hill.  ;D

I can't believe I am still catching up on my sleep/schedule a week after returning from Germany. Went to bed at 9:30 last night and slept until 8:30 this morning. Whatever happened to the guy who was a night owl?

The remodel is going along slowly. As it turned out, we had to tear out not only the underlayment, but the sub-floor upstairs. Seems the  underlayment was glued to the sub-floor. When the crew tried tearing it out, it was ruining the sub-floor. Anyhow, we have a new 3/4" plywood sub-floor waiting for the install of 3/4" Beech flooring and tile in the bathroom. It would have been easier to move to a new place than to remodel. It might have been less expensive too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 08, 2014, 11:49:35 AM
-Just checking in and saying hi to you all. Keep up the good work. I am headed out for a walk up the hill in a little while. The good news is the walk home is all down hill.  ;D

I can't believe I am still catching up on my sleep/schedule a week after returning from Germany. Went to bed at 9:30 last night and slept until 8:30 this morning. Whatever happened to the guy who was a night owl?

The remodel is going along slowly. As it turned out, we had to tear out not only the underlayment, but the sub-floor upstairs. Seems the  underlayment was glued to the sub-floor. When the crew tried tearing it out, it was ruining the sub-floor. Anyhow, we have a new 3/4" plywood sub-floor waiting for the install of 3/4" Beech flooring and tile in the bathroom. It would have been easier to move to a new place than to remodel. It might have been less expensive too.

Prime that would drive me crazy. I just had the interior of my house painted. The guys were here almost two weeks. Just don't like workers in my house. One of them was even a friend of mine. He did time for killing a guy and even has another kill that was ruled justified but that's another story. I got friends in high and low places. Just drove me crazy that we felt they were guests in my house and felt obligated to feed them. They soon expected lunch and dinner every day. They even did a half ass job in places but I didn't ride them because again the head guy was a friend down on his luck out of prison.

I use to live in a small house with my wife and 4 kids and had to make a decision to bump out the small house in a relatively expensive neighborhood or buy a big house in a less expensive town. I went for the big house 3000 sq ft. The guys from NJ can vouch for how expensive real estate is in NJ. In the end I wonder if I made the right decision from a money stand point. The smaller house in the expensive neighbor is worth more than my 12 year old house that's twice the size.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 08, 2014, 11:56:28 AM
Any of you old guys ever do the big 3 every workout? Alternate light/heavy high/low reps?

Not quite only the big three but when I was a teenager I competed in powerlifting one time as a light weight. It was basically the big three with a few extra exercises. I have some memories of doing a month of squat, deadlift, bench, bar row, and military for awhile when I was about 18 or so. I read it was a good bulk routine and when I was young I was foolishly all about gaining weight through any means possible. Now I'm all about losing weight. Being lean beats being a perma bulker every time. Wish I could undo all those gain weight shakes I drank for about 15 years.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on September 08, 2014, 05:43:57 PM
First day today....not bad.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 08, 2014, 06:59:26 PM
chest
fdb press warm 55...65/80/80 10/8/8
inc dbell 60/65/70-55 drop
flat flyes 45/50/55..10/8/6
bar pullovers 70 lb bar sets 12
superset cable crossovers with situp hammer press 2/2.5/2.5 plates

tris
tri sets dipmachine /tricep ropedowns/close grip bench x3
finished db extensions x3

abs


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 08, 2014, 08:37:12 PM
Prime that would drive me crazy. I just had the interior of my house painted. The guys were here almost two weeks. Just don't like workers in my house. One of them was even a friend of mine. He did time for killing a guy and even has another kill that was ruled justified but that's another story. I got friends in high and low places. Just drove me crazy that we felt they were guests in my house and felt obligated to feed them. They soon expected lunch and dinner every day. They even did a half ass job in places but I didn't ride them because again the head guy was a friend down on his luck out of prison.

I use to live in a small house with my wife and 4 kids and had to make a decision to bump out the small house in a relatively expensive neighborhood or buy a big house in a less expensive town. I went for the big house 3000 sq ft. The guys from NJ can vouch for how expensive real estate is in NJ. In the end I wonder if I made the right decision from a money stand point. The smaller house in the expensive neighbor is worth more than my 12 year old house that's twice the size.

As I probably mentioned, we are remodeling our home so it will better accommodate three generations. We aren't adding any square footage because the house is already fairly large. The plan is for our daughter and her husband to help take care of us as we age in our own home. Our grandson is a senior this year and will (hopefully) be off to college a year from now. Not that we don't love him, because we do. Teenagers just are what they are; often times a pain in the butt.

The remodel started upstairs where the kids have about 1,100 sq. ft. We are redoing the bathroom and in the bedroom, we created a large walk in closet. There are some electrical and media upgrades. The big thing, as it turned out is replacing a sea of carpeting with hardwood floors.

Our home is in an upscale neighborhood. It was built in the late 70's and has neither suffered bad remodels or much in the way of updates. We've been replacing the mechanics over the last 16 years we've lived here. The furnace is new and we just added central air. Needless to say, the décor is dated. We actually replaced the shag carpet which covered most of the main floor shortly after we moved in with wool Berber. This has since developed worn spots.

Once the upstairs is done, we will begin the downstairs remodel. The first thing to go is the carpet in the living and dining room, which will be replace with hardwoods to match what we are putting in upstairs. Expense wise, the kitchen will be the killer. Since the vanity for the bathroom upstairs is costing around $1,000 I can only dread what the new kitchen cabinets are going to run.

The good news is that we hardly owe anything on our home. Unless the cost of remodeling exceeds our outside estimate of $150,000 we should be fine if we wanted or needed to sell this place.

As for two or three generations living under one roof, I will say if I had my druthers, we'd have built a duplex....like two houses joined by a glassed in breezeway. But considering my champagne taste, building from scratch would mean we'd have to win the lotto first.  ;D

One of the hardest things for me is that we will be unloading a lifetime collection of furniture and accessories. I love most of what we have. My wife is all for a change. She is ready to put it all in a garage sale, including things she inherited from her parents. Guess I can't blame her, she has been looking at some of the same things since she was a little girl. Ethan Allen and Pottery Barn, here we come.

I have actually lost sleep and had panic attacks over these changes. Really, I need to get a grip. It is all just "stuff" and it is relationships that count not possessions.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 09, 2014, 05:19:56 AM
Prime, if the house is paid off there is so many things you can do financially with the house. I hope when it's finished your family is completely pleased with the results. I still have about 11 years to go on my mortgage. My house taxes are close to 9K a year and that's cheap for NJ. Thinking about selling and down sizing to a retirement community but I still have a 23 and a 16 year old living with me. I don't know if they would accept them with their rules.

This is basically what I'm doing with my workouts now. I change constantly but for a couple of weeks it has been this. About two work sets per exercise and three to four exercises a body part.

Monday: chest and back
Wednesday: legs
Friday: Delt and arms

On the off weight days have been running and body weight exercises.

So far I'm pleased with the results but I know I would really get somewhere fast if my diet was better. In a word I just enjoy beer to much. About three days a week I  drink and that's a crazy amount of calories I just don't need to smooth me out.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 09, 2014, 05:44:38 AM
will hit legs tonight..

20 mins bike to warm up..

front squats 3 sets
leg press 3 sets
Leg curls 3 sets
Stiff legged deadlifts 3 sets
Seated calf raises 3-5 sets

Might super set will wait and see how busy it is. Not a big gym so setting up equipment is a problem when itīs busy so i have to be flexible.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 09, 2014, 08:50:08 AM
Prime, if the house is paid off there is so many things you can do financially with the house. I hope when it's finished your family is completely pleased with the results. I still have about 11 years to go on my mortgage. My house taxes are close to 9K a year and that's cheap for NJ. Thinking about selling and down sizing to a retirement community but I still have a 23 and a 16 year old living with me. I don't know if they would accept them with their rules.

This is basically what I'm doing with my workouts now. I change constantly but for a couple of weeks it has been this. About two work sets per exercise and three to four exercises a body part.

Monday: chest and back
Wednesday: legs
Friday: Delt and arms

On the off weight days have been running and body weight exercises.

So far I'm pleased with the results but I know I would really get somewhere fast if my diet was better. In a word I just enjoy beer to much. About three days a week I  drink and that's a crazy amount of calories I just don't need to smooth me out.

Your workout seems sensible. You may not get a cut as you'd like, but one should enjoy life too. A little beer never hurt anyone.

Our taxes are half what yours are. I've read where New Jersey's property tax rate is among the highest in the country. The assessed value of property in Oregon is limited to not more than a 6% increase annually. This keeps our property taxes more affordable.

We have a seventeen year old living with us. He is our grandson. Our daughter is 39 years old and our son-in-law is 41. They definitely pull their own weight around here, not only doing a lot of the gardening, housework, cooking and helping with my wife's many doctor appointments, they pay us a sizeable rent each month. Eventually, this place will be theirs, after my wife and I pass.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 09, 2014, 08:53:42 AM
will hit legs tonight..

20 mins bike to warm up..

front squats 3 sets
leg press 3 sets
Leg curls 3 sets
Stiff legged deadlifts 3 sets
Seated calf raises 3-5 sets

Might super set will wait and see how busy it is. Not a big gym so setting up equipment is a problem when itīs busy so i have to be flexible.
I like it..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on September 09, 2014, 06:24:08 PM
Shoulders and arms today.  Five sets of DB laterals increasing the weight each set and dropping the reps accordingly.  Next up 5X5 machine shoulder presses again increasing the weight each set and then finally (for shoulders) five sets of rear DB laterals.  Much better feel than the machine ones.

Four sets of cheat BB cheat curls increasing the weight and dropping reps from 10 to 5 followed by five sets  of alternating DB curls follow the same protocol.  Tricep pushdowns for five sets and then five sets of  five reps each on machine close grip bench presses.

One set of machine sit ups with as much of the weight stack as I could do in good form for 12 reps.  All done.  I actually feel really good today1

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 09, 2014, 11:23:19 PM
I like it..
I actually did higher reps on the Front squats not going heavy and more weight on the leg press. was good.
Shoulders and arms today.  Five sets of DB laterals increasing the weight each set and dropping the reps accordingly.  Next up 5X5 machine shoulder presses again increasing the weight each set and then finally (for shoulders) five sets of rear DB laterals.  Much better feel than the machine ones.

Four sets of cheat BB cheat curls increasing the weight and dropping reps from 10 to 5 followed by five sets  of alternating DB curls follow the same protocol.  Tricep pushdowns for five sets and then five sets of  five reps each on machine close grip bench presses.
One set of machine sit ups with as much of the weight stack as I could do in good form for 12 reps.  All done.  I actually feel really good today1


5x5 is great for power. Good you warmed up on the cheat curls working up in weight. Iīm sticking to 6-15 reps at the moment. Chest back 6-8 reps.. shoulders 10-12 and legs 10-15. i did go up to 20 reps on Front squats last night.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 10, 2014, 05:17:03 AM
I actually did higher reps on the Front squats not going heavy and more weight on the leg press. was good.  5x5 is great for power. Good you warmed up on the cheat curls working up in weight. Iīm sticking to 6-15 reps at the moment. Chest back 6-8 reps.. shoulders 10-12 and legs 10-15. i did go up to 20 reps on Front squats last night.
pretty much my rep schemes...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 10, 2014, 07:05:33 AM
pretty much my rep schemes...
yes works good for me. Higher reps work on any muscle group but on legs especially. I feel my legs more.Is it a pump ? ;D The feeling is great and the lower legs ..the quads are one of the most important muscle group in the human body. Bill Grant said higher reps are for Bodybuilders and i agree with him on leg training.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 10, 2014, 07:30:30 AM
So Back will be ..
Front pull downs 3 sets
Close grip pulldowns 3 sets
BB rows 3 sets
BB pullovers 3 sets Superset with inverted bodyweight rows. (inverted rows brought to my attention again by Oldtimer..Rich)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 10, 2014, 04:48:38 PM
Trained legs today. I'm not using heavy weights due to the running but I'm trying to make the exercises harder by doing a complete range of motion and good form. The heaviest I got was 245lbs in squats but it was ass to grass deep with a narrow stance.

The job I retired from is having one of those crazy 5K races with numerous military type obstacles, actually shooting a hand gun at one point in the race and mud. I guess it's a mud biathlon minus the skis and snow, lol.  What's the deal with the mud nonsense with these races? I keep my car prestine and the thought of having any mud getting on the seats drives me nuts. I really want to see the guys I worked with but what the hell? The field they are having this at is at a military base and is famous for having a million Canadian geese on it. So they are going to make mud out of dirt and goose shit?  I want to do it bad but I might have to pass.

This is closed race to the public and right around the same time the Marines are having a 5k race on the boardwalk that's open to the public with zero mud. I'm torn between seeing the guys and the desire to keep clean.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 10, 2014, 07:42:28 PM
back
 chins 2 grips 2x2 sets ,,,reps 12 per
bent over rows 185/205/225/245
row machine seated underhand grip 175/195/210..
behind neck pulldowns x3
standing wide bar pulls to waist x3

weighted hypers
x3

bi's

curls big bar...85/95/105/115-85 drop
hammers,,,40-40-50
seated curl machine x3
2 sets cable single arm curls

abs 5 sets 30 on lying crunch roller machine..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 10, 2014, 10:54:26 PM
Last Night i was talking to a Guy in the Gym who goes to the Highland Games here in peine(about 40km) from where i live. He said they are always looking for new people for the traditional competition such as Farmers walk and stone throwing. also have a Tug of war team and suggested i try it. I am seriously thinking about training for it 8) I think chaos can give me some useful tips here... i will have to invest in a Kilt  ;D
 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 10, 2014, 11:46:55 PM
Been thinking about getting a kilt for a long time and one of the two Tartans would be appropriate.. the lighter one(Top) is the Tartan from my family name and the darker one is "hume" or Home, the Tartan from my old Regiment which i am allowed to wear.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 11, 2014, 03:09:16 AM
Been thinking about getting a kilt for a long time and one of the two Tartans would be appropriate.. the lighter one is the Tartan from my family name and the darker one is "hume" or Home, the Tartan from my old Regiment which i am allowed to wear.


That's not the latest Calvin Klein line!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 11, 2014, 03:37:16 AM
That's not the latest Calvin Klein line!
Mate no Joke.. as a kid i had Tartan Y-Fronts  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 11, 2014, 05:42:36 AM
That's not the latest Calvin Klein line!
lol..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 11, 2014, 06:10:36 AM
lol..
Steve you got the legs for a Kilt..  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 11, 2014, 06:21:17 AM
Steve you got the legs for a Kilt..  ;D
;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 11, 2014, 06:46:13 AM
need motivation for forearm training? I think i would rather use Steveīs Wrist roller  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 12, 2014, 06:38:53 AM
Today i trained shoulders+arms

front barbell press 3 sets
Side raises 3 sets
lying across body rear delt raise with dB 3 sets
BB close grip upright rows 3 sets

Seated dB curls 3 sets
SPIDER BB curls 3 sets
Parallel bar dips 3 sets
Incline Bench BB extensions 3 sets

Abs: crunches with Ab Roller / cardio 30 mins crosstrainer.

i did not train shoulders yesterday because i felt my shoulders were not really ready after back training on Wednesday. just dropped a couple of exercises on Arms. No wonder Oldtimer likes Inverted rows. worked my rear delts very well as i was bringing the bar higher than i would on say BB rows. All good stuff.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 12, 2014, 06:55:18 AM
Today i trained shoulders+arms

front barbell press 3 sets
Side raises 3 sets
lying across body rear delt raise with dB 3 sets
BB close grip upright rows 3 sets

Seated dB curls 3 sets
SPIDER BB curls 3 sets
Parallel bar dips 3 sets
Incline Bench BB extensions 3 sets

Abs: crunches with Ab Roller / cardio 30 mins crosstrainer.

i did not train shoulders yesterday because i felt my shoulders were not really ready after back training on Wednesday. just dropped a couple of exercises on Arms. No wonder Oldtimer likes Inverted rows. worked my rear delts very well as i was bringing the bar higher than i would on say BB rows. All good stuff.
i follow delt day after back,,tough ,,my traps in rear are sometimes hurting from back/upper trap stuff from day before..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 12, 2014, 07:03:40 AM
off work and training today..

delts yesterday

front press 135/165/175-135 drop..trying to go heavier on these.like to get 185 for 6 hard.we'll see
side raises modified these cable version 'no handles tho'and i turn hands so they face mirror then go up slight elbow bend
front raise curl bar normal overhand grip x3 50/60/60 weighted bar
rear delts seated bent over dbell old school 25/25/25/25
finished 2 sets seated side lateral machine 'padded version'

shrugs on chest press hammer lying version'works good on here'worked up to 5 plates  3 sets
reverse smith shrug x2

calves 5 sets standing calf raises

forarms cable wrist curls x3
behind back reverse wrist curls x3

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 12, 2014, 11:59:57 AM
Trained delts and arms.  All sets to failure and no warm ups are listed.  I have a bad shoulder that has got a little better lately.  

Dumbbell press 2 x 10
dumbbell lateral raises 2 x 10
single dumbbell pulley raises 1 x 10
rear dumbbell laterals 2 x 10
barbell shrugs 2 x 10

ez bar curls 2 x 10
straight bar pulley curls 2 x 10
concentration curl 2 x 12

conventional tricep push downs 2 x  10
Single dumbbell tricep extensions 2 x 10 (I lean back against a scott curl attached to the bench for a back brace and hold a single dumbbell over head with both hands.)
rope push downs 2 x 12

Forearm wrist curls 2 x 20
reverse wrist extentions 2 x 15

Weighted crunches with feet up on a bench 1 x 50
Pulley crunches 2 x 30

Ivanko grippers 2 x 20

Scheduled to go for a run after but feeling shot so I canned it. Going to go lighter soon with more volume and less weight. This low sets to failure is really getting old quick.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 13, 2014, 08:54:18 PM
leg day ,,,heavy duty,brutal..

squats warmed 135x15..225x12,275x10,315x10,365x10,405x8,225x20 :o

lying leg sled..200/240/300..10/10/10

extensions 220/235/250..12/12/12

hams
sldl 135/185/235/255
seated leg curls ..195/210/210

calves
seated calf raise 3 set drops 10 reps per 3 plates to 2.5 to 2 x4..sick ,hurting pump..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on September 13, 2014, 08:55:17 PM
Last Night i was talking to a Guy in the Gym who goes to the Highland Games here in peine(about 40km) from where i live. He said they are always looking for new people for the traditional competition such as Farmers walk and stone throwing. also have a Tug of war team and suggested i try it. I am seriously thinking about training for it 8) I think chaos can give me some useful tips here... i will have to invest in a Kilt  ;D
 

Find someone you can train with that has the equipment,  so much technique involved.  Like the cabers...awkward to balance, could never get the spinning down for the stone throws. Farmers is fairly easy if you've done strongman, typically they don't use big weights in comparison to strongman. Throws for height (forget what they call it) is just like swinging a kettlebell but you let go at the top.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 14, 2014, 06:05:02 AM
Find someone you can train with that has the equipment,  so much technique involved.  Like the cabers...awkward to balance, could never get the spinning down for the stone throws. Farmers is fairly easy if you've done strongman, typically they don't use big weights in comparison to strongman. Throws for height (forget what they call it) is just like swinging a kettlebell but you let go at the top.
yes thanks i will.. more to it than just picking up a weight thatīs true...   
Lazy Day today watching some old films... Steve MQueen one of the best old school actors...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 15, 2014, 08:15:58 AM
Today chest..

Flat DB Bench press 3 sets
Flat Flyes 3 sets
Incline BB press 3 sets
Incline flyes 3 sets
push ups 2xmax

Abs: Incline knee raises 3xmax Cardio, cross Trainer.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 15, 2014, 08:22:01 AM
Today chest..

Flat DB Bench press 3 sets
Flat Flyes 3 sets
Incline BB press 3 sets
Incline flyes 3 sets
push ups 2xmax

Abs: Incline knee raises 3xmax Cardio, cross Trainer.

SAME WORKOUT AND ORDER AS ME,,, :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 15, 2014, 08:25:13 AM
SAME WORKOUT AND ORDER AS ME,,, :P
I like DB presses at the moment. will change it around in a few weeks maybe some Dips or Decline press ;D.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 15, 2014, 08:31:49 AM
I like DB presses at the moment. will change it around in a few weeks maybe some Dips or Decline press ;D.
I LOVE DIPS LIKE U BUT RIGHT NOW FRONT DELTS ARE HURTING A BIT AND THAT KILLS DIPS..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 16, 2014, 05:49:00 AM
chest

fdb prss..60/70/80/85/65 palms twisted in at top..12/10/8/6/8
hammer situp press mid/lower pec.2/2.5/3 plates 10/10/8
inc flye superset bar pullovers..40/50/50..70/70/70 bar..10x10
dips x2 X15
cable crossovers x3

tri
extension machine x4
rope pulldowns x3
close grip benchx3
v bar extension I place hands hi up on bar hits hi part tri 'lol'i think

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 16, 2014, 06:18:41 AM
chest

fdb prss..60/70/80/85/65 palms twisted in at top..12/10/8/6/8
hammer situp press mid/lower pec.2/2.5/3 plates 10/10/8
inc flye superset bar pullovers..40/50/50..70/70/70 bar..10x10
dips x2 X15
cable crossovers x3

tri
extension machine x4
rope pulldowns x3
close grip benchx3
v bar extension I place hands hi up on bar hits hi part tri 'lol'i think

abs
Got it all pretty well covered Steve. I like using a straight bar using an undergrip for triceps.

so legs tonight...

Front squats3- 5 sets
leg press 3-5 sets
leg curls 3-5 sets
stiff deads 3- 5 sets
seated calf raises 5 sets

apart from a warm up on the Bike no cardio tonight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 16, 2014, 06:45:54 AM
Got it all pretty well covered Steve. I like using a straight bar using an undergrip for triceps.

so legs tonight...

Front squats3- 5 sets
leg press 3-5 sets
leg curls 3-5 sets
stiff deads 3- 5 sets
seated calf raises 5 sets

apart from a warm up on the Bike no cardio tonight.
I been doing undergrip just not this time,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 16, 2014, 08:29:49 AM
Had some minor shoulder joint issues, so Yesterday I decided to choose the super slow method on my push day. This helps me every time, and I feel no pain today :)

sets x reps x seconds
=============
2 x 4 x 20 DB press
2 x 4 x 20 DB front raise

(10 seconds concentric, 10 seconds eccentric)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 16, 2014, 09:55:04 AM
I been doing undergrip
I known you like them...good to throw in a new exercise now and again. What did  they call it ...muscle confusion ;D...stops boredom too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 16, 2014, 10:09:05 AM
I known you like them...good to throw in a new exercise now and again. What did  they call it ...muscle confusion ;D...stops boredom too.
;D, 8), :-*, :D..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on September 16, 2014, 06:52:39 PM
Back today was three sets of pullups between 5 and 12 reps each set (shoulders HURT!) followed by three sets of smith  machine rows for 10 - 5 - 5 reps and then three sets of 5 or 6 on one arm DB rows.

Chest was machine bench presses.  One warm up set of 20 reps followed by three progressively heavier sets of 5 reps.  Next up smith machine incline bench for three sets of 5 reps and finally three sets of 10 - 5 -  as5 reps on DB flys as done by the Oak back in the day.

Three sets of machine sit ups for 10 reps each.

Barring any problems, tomorrow will be shoulders and arms.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 16, 2014, 11:52:41 PM
Back today was three sets of pullups between 5 and 12 reps each set (shoulders HURT!) followed by three sets of smith  machine rows for 10 - 5 - 5 reps and then three sets of 5 or 6 on one arm DB rows.

Chest was machine bench presses.  One warm up set of 20 reps followed by three progressively heavier sets of 5 reps.  Next up smith machine incline bench for three sets of 5 reps and finally three sets of 10 - 5 -  as5 reps on DB flys as done by the Oak back in the day.

Three sets of machine sit ups for 10 reps each.

Barring any problems, tomorrow will be shoulders and arms.  ;D
Good to see you back scotty... ;D i think if it was me i would rest a day before doing shoulders /arms...i mean if your shoulders hurt on your chins might be better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 17, 2014, 07:13:39 AM
Back blast Tonight  ;D

Wide grip pulldowns 3-5 sets
Close grip pulldowns 3-5 sets
BB rows 3-5 sets / Inverted Rows
BB pullovers 3-5 sets

Crunches superset with leg raises both on a mat. i donīt count reps on crunches just do it till it hurts. I will go on the streets running after i workout. Will see tonight how i feel might replace BB rows for "Oldtimer inverted Rows" . High rep for a change...or i might do 2 sets of each.. BB rows then rep out with inverted rows. I like to just have a free style approach now. as long as i get the job done.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on September 17, 2014, 06:52:10 PM
Good to see you back scotty... ;D i think if it was me i would rest a day before doing shoulders /arms...i mean if your shoulders hurt on your chins might be better.

Yup. Good idea, so I rested today!  Will hit it tomorrow morning around 3:30 a.m.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 17, 2014, 07:15:25 PM
back

reverse hammer pulldowns,,plate and 25,,2 plates,2plates and ten,2plates and 25..10/10/10/8
tbar row chest to pad wide grip ,,2 plates ,2plates and 25 x2...10/10/10
cable low row 180/200/200..10/10/10
behind neck pulldowns x3
2 sets x10 tbar row front plate loaded inner grip 2 plates 25,3 plates

weighted hypers x3

bis
seated curl machine 95,125,140
hammers 35/40/45..
inc curls dbells ,,,30,35,35
80 ln close inner grip curls x2

abs 5 sets 30 lying crunch roller
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 18, 2014, 02:55:03 AM
Yup. Good idea, so I rested today!  Will hit it tomorrow morning around 3:30 a.m.   ;D
Bill Pearl style.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 18, 2014, 07:44:24 AM
well we will find out tomorrow how the people in Scotland voted... Trained shoulders today.

Tri set of:
Front raises 4 sets
Side raises 4 sets
Bent over raises 4 sets

BB Military press 3 sets
BB upright rows 3 sets

I like starting off with laterals just working my way around my shoulders(donīt have to press heavy afterwards). Last night i did BB rows and finished my workout with 2 sets of inverted bar rows really finished me off just repping out. Really punished my lower arms after BB rows too. Might go for a bike ride later because itīs nice today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 18, 2014, 08:28:12 AM
A Bonny Lassy....Aye  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 18, 2014, 10:13:43 AM
well we will find out tomorrow how the people in Scotland voted... Trained shoulders today.

Tri set of:
Front raises 4 sets
Side raises 4 sets
Bent over raises 4 sets

BB Military press 3 sets
BB upright rows 3 sets

I like starting off with laterals just working my way around my shoulders(donīt have to press heavy afterwards). Last night i did BB rows and finished my workout with 2 sets of inverted bar rows really finished me off just repping out. Really punished my lower arms after BB rows too. Might go for a bike ride later because itīs nice today.
nice,,i'm training home .I might do that 1st part...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on September 19, 2014, 11:11:11 AM
hope all you fellas have an enjoyable weekend!!!!


steverino.......make sure to eat some cannolis!!!!


chest and calves tonight:

hammer wide chest   4 sets

flat bench db presses  4 sets

pec deck   4 sets

seated calf raises  6 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 19, 2014, 11:35:44 AM
DELTS PART DONNIE WORKOUT ,,GREAT PUMP

TRISET X4 SIDE LATERALS,FRONT UNDERHANDED DB RAISE,CABLE BEHIND BACK REAR RAISE..
SEATED FRONT PRESS X2 /DB PRESS X3
3 SETS CABLE UPRGHT ROWS

TRAPS TRISETS X3 FRONT DB/SIDE SHRUGS AND REAR CABLE SHRUGS 10/10/10

FORARMS 9 SETS

CALVES 5 SETS SINGLE FOOTED CALF RAISE 50 LB DB IN HAND...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on September 19, 2014, 11:53:15 AM
Bill Pearl style.... ;D
Yup.  He lives up near my older brother in Medford, Oregon.  Have yet to meet him though.

I am sore but in a good way today.  I really have to warm up and so I did increasingly heavy (for me!) DB laterals for 6 sets followed by the same thing on machine shoulder presses and then machine rear delts.  I miss doing shrugs but I get so sore from them that I worry about what's going on in there.  ;D

Five sets of barbell cheat curls and then five sets of alternate DB curls.  I really enjoy the latter as it feels great to do them and gives me a nice pump too.  Five sets of tricep pushdowns and then five sets of close grip machine bench presses.    I prefer free weights but at the time I train I am pretty much alone and cannot afford to have anyone find me dead under a puny weight, sooooo... I use a puny weight on the machines.  ;D

Three sets of wrist curls on a pulley machine, both directions followed by a couple of sets of machine situps.  All done yesterday  morning and I just got back from the doctor and am about to do some leg PT. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 19, 2014, 12:48:28 PM
Just reporting that I have had no alcoholic beverages since last Sunday. So far, so good.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 19, 2014, 05:56:22 PM
Prime do you have a problem with alcohol or are you doing it for bodybuilding reasons? I won't be offended if you don't answer.  ;)

 I came back today after staying a night at the Tropicana casino in Atlantic city. When I drink I binge.  Between drinking, dancing in a club and eating complete crap all day I feel like hell today. Going to have fresh start tomorrow regarding diet. I just lost 5 pounds after a hard week of cardio and I'm afraid to get on the scale today after this booze/ junk food fest I just had yesterday. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 19, 2014, 07:59:46 PM
Prime do you have a problem with alcohol or are you doing it for bodybuilding reasons? I won't be offended if you don't answer.  ;)

 I came back today after staying a night at the Tropicana casino in Atlantic city. When I drink I binge.  Between drinking, dancing in a club and eating complete crap all day I feel like hell today. Going to have fresh start tomorrow regarding diet. I just lost 5 pounds after a hard week of cardio and I'm afraid to get on the scale today after this booze/ junk food fest I just had yesterday. 

I have a problem with alcohol. When I buy a fifth of Scotch, I generally drink about half of it in an evening at home. Half a fifth is too much for good health and I know it. I was purchasing around 3 fifths a week which means I drank pretty much every night.

When I go out, I am much better at monitoring how much I drink. Generally never more than one drink an hour and I often switch to Ginger Ale if I am out for more than a few hours. Three drinks is my limit when out. I don't get drunk (or at least act drunk) and I don't have hangovers. Regardless of where I drink, I include drinking a lot of water.

One negative effect I get from drinking is that it sometimes leaves me depressed the next day. Also it seems the amount I was drinking is an unhealthy quantity to drink when it comes to heart health. I have an irregular heartbeat, atrial fibrillation or flutter, and tend to have a fast pulse and high blood pressure. When I don't drink, these things improve.

My family tells me I am a nicer guy when I don't drink. Although I am not the kind of guy who drinks and goes crazy, I am more apt to say what I feel without regard to other's feelings if I am fortified.

The funny thing is I actually don't like the taste of Scotch and yet when I drink it, I drink it neat. I think I am subconsciously trying to make it taste so bad that I won't want another....and yet....I have one or six more.

So far not drinking this week has been fine. No DT's or withdrawal feelings of any kind. I only occasionally think about having a drink, but I have made up my mind not to do that. In the past, I have proven to have a lot of willpower. For example, I quit smoking when I was 29 years old after smoking around 3 packs of cigarettes a day for 11 years. I simply made up my mind one day to stop smoking, and I did; as simple as that. I have not had so much as a puff since that day. Compared to the withdrawal from nicotine, not drinking alcohol is a cake walk.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 20, 2014, 12:03:02 AM
I have a problem with alcohol. When I buy a fifth of Scotch, I generally drink about half of it in an evening at home. Half a fifth is too much for good health and I know it. I was purchasing around 3 fifths a week which means I drank pretty much every night.

When I go out, I am much better at monitoring how much I drink. Generally never more than one drink an hour and I often switch to Ginger Ale if I am out for more than a few hours. Three drinks is my limit when out. I don't get drunk (or at least act drunk) and I don't have hangovers. Regardless of where I drink, I include drinking a lot of water.

One negative effect I get from drinking is that it sometimes leaves me depressed the next day. Also it seems the amount I was drinking is an unhealthy quantity to drink when it comes to heart health. I have an irregular heartbeat, atrial fibrillation or flutter, and tend to have a fast pulse and high blood pressure. When I don't drink, these things improve.

My family tells me I am a nicer guy when I don't drink. Although I am not the kind of guy who drinks and goes crazy, I am more apt to say what I feel without regard to other's feelings if I am fortified.

The funny thing is I actually don't like the taste of Scotch and yet when I drink it, I drink it neat. I think I am subconsciously trying to make it taste so bad that I won't want another....and yet....I have one or six more.

So far not drinking this week has been fine. No DT's or withdrawal feelings of any kind. I only occasionally think about having a drink, but I have made up my mind not to do that. In the past, I have proven to have a lot of willpower. For example, I quit smoking when I was 29 years old after smoking around 3 packs of cigarettes a day for 11 years. I simply made up my mind one day to stop smoking, and I did; as simple as that. I have not had so much as a puff since that day. Compared to the withdrawal from nicotine, not drinking alcohol is a cake walk.
At least you are honest.. my step Brother was an Alcoholic, he drunk neat Black Heart Rum every day. I remember every time he had leave from the Merchant Navy he would come back Drunk. was a very nice guy and was really like my real Brother. He lost good jobs because of his drinking, collapsed one day and was told stop or you are Dead in 6 Months. He then stopped the Rum and drunk Beer, then joined the AA Group with another ex Navy Guy he knew. He stopped drinking. Some of the stories he told me of his exploits in the Navy were funny... ;D He burned the candle at both ends... he lived another 20 years after he stopped drinking.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 20, 2014, 03:17:19 AM
Arm workout last night..(POF style)

BB curls 3 sets
Incline DB curls 3 sets
concentration curls(non supported) 3 sets

Lying BB tri extensions 3 sets
Incline BB tri extensions 3 sets
One arm reverse grip cable extensions 3 sets

Crunches and 30 mins Crosstrainer, Interval programme to finish.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 20, 2014, 04:44:31 AM
I have a problem with alcohol. When I buy a fifth of Scotch, I generally drink about half of it in an evening at home. Half a fifth is too much for good health and I know it. I was purchasing around 3 fifths a week which means I drank pretty much every night.

When I go out, I am much better at monitoring how much I drink. Generally never more than one drink an hour and I often switch to Ginger Ale if I am out for more than a few hours. Three drinks is my limit when out. I don't get drunk (or at least act drunk) and I don't have hangovers. Regardless of where I drink, I include drinking a lot of water.

One negative effect I get from drinking is that it sometimes leaves me depressed the next day. Also it seems the amount I was drinking is an unhealthy quantity to drink when it comes to heart health. I have an irregular heartbeat, atrial fibrillation or flutter, and tend to have a fast pulse and high blood pressure. When I don't drink, these things improve.

My family tells me I am a nicer guy when I don't drink. Although I am not the kind of guy who drinks and goes crazy, I am more apt to say what I feel without regard to other's feelings if I am fortified.

The funny thing is I actually don't like the taste of Scotch and yet when I drink it, I drink it neat. I think I am subconsciously trying to make it taste so bad that I won't want another....and yet....I have one or six more.

So far not drinking this week has been fine. No DT's or withdrawal feelings of any kind. I only occasionally think about having a drink, but I have made up my mind not to do that. In the past, I have proven to have a lot of willpower. For example, I quit smoking when I was 29 years old after smoking around 3 packs of cigarettes a day for 11 years. I simply made up my mind one day to stop smoking, and I did; as simple as that. I have not had so much as a puff since that day. Compared to the withdrawal from nicotine, not drinking alcohol is a cake walk.

Prime, I'm not giving you advice but talking about myself. When I had to give something up that was unhealthy for mind and body I found the best way for me  to stop at once instead of the often suggested taper. The worse pain is the first few weeks. If you can make it a month then you know you can do it. Even after a year you will always want to have it again but with each month you'll be stronger in knowing you can resist. If your family is saying your a nicer person sober then really listen to what they are telling you.

Too much alcohol is bad for your heart. It's bad for bodybuilding in that it adds fat both viscerally and subcutaneously. It eventually gives you a fatty liver that doesn't function optimally that can wreck havoc on your health or at the least just makes your body function less than it can. I've heard it can take up to a 6 months for your liver to heal itself. Excess alcohol also aromatizes  your natural testosterone into estrogen.

Personally I drink about 3 times a week. I binge and I know it effects my bodybuilding. I have noticed it kills my endurance in cardio. There is no such thing as having an good run after drinking the night before. I really believe I would be ripped with the amount of working out I do if it wasn't for alcohol.  

I wish you the best and remember the first few weeks are the hardest. It gets better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 20, 2014, 04:57:24 AM
If i drink too much Beer i feel it for a couple of Days after it. You are Dehydrated,tired and not motivated. Your normal training weights feel heavier than usual. I know the old saying sweat out the Booze the Day after.. better to rest a Day, eat well and then train after 2 Days.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 20, 2014, 03:39:16 PM
At least you are honest.. my step Brother was an Alcoholic, he drunk neat Black Heart Rum every day. I remember every time he had leave from the Merchant Navy he would come back Drunk. was a very nice guy and was really like my real Brother. He lost good jobs because of his drinking, collapsed one day and was told stop or you are Dead in 6 Months. He then stopped the Rum and drunk Beer, then joined the AA Group with another ex Navy Guy he knew. He stopped drinking. Some of the stories he told me of his exploits in the Navy were funny... ;D He burned the candle at both ends... he lived another 20 years after he stopped drinking.

I don't know if I can say that I have stopped drinking altogether yet. The only time I have a problem with drinking is, like I said, when I buy scotch to drink at home. When we go to friends for dinner, I'll have a glass or two of wine, if offered, and I don't feel the need to get snookered. Although I have not had any alcohol for a week now, I am only committing myself to not buying a bottle of alcohol at the liquor store to drink at home for now.

There is some German wine in the cupboard, which I brought back from Germany and which I received as birthday gifts while there. I have not opened it because I want to be sure I can go without any alcohol for a period of time without slipping back into old ways. Like most folks, I am a creature of habit. In order to make a change, I have to make a conscious effort to do so. It doesn't just happened like magic. My only "trigger" is habit, as far as I know.

Unlike your brother, I have no amazing stories to tell of wild times. I am painfully logical and practical about everything I do. Even when I was young and did what I thought were some wild things, I calculated the risk involved verses the thrill before I did them. Probably the craziest thing I have ever done is get naked in public and even that was calculated because it was during Mardi Gras and the bar I was at allowed nudity. Incidentally, I wasn't drunk or high at the time. I have always been pretty uninhibited. I don't need alcohol or drugs to help me lose my inhibitions. This probably explains why I don't ever "act drunk".

Right now, I am thinking my previous alcohol consumption was contributing to the nephropathy in my right foot. Most of the feeling of numbness is gone. I am walking with a much more normal gait and as a result, my knee is feeling better too. Wouldn't it be hilarious if I was causing this leg problem myself? I am pretty excited to think I might have fixed this niggling problem I've suffered for the past year. I haven't said anything to my family yet because I want to be sure it is actually better and not just some fluke.

Here I am a seventy year old man and I am still learning things about myself. One would think by the time they've lived seven decades they'd have everything all worked out. Apparently that's not the case, at least not with me.    

 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 20, 2014, 03:58:15 PM
Prime, I'm not giving you advice but talking about myself. When I had to give something up that was unhealthy for mind and body I found the best way for me  to stop at once instead of the often suggested taper. The worse pain is the first few weeks. If you can make it a month then you know you can do it. Even after a year you will always want to have it again but with each month you'll be stronger in knowing you can resist. If your family is saying your a nicer person sober then really listen to what they are telling you.

Too much alcohol is bad for your heart. It's bad for bodybuilding in that it adds fat both viscerally and subcutaneously. It eventually gives you a fatty liver that doesn't function optimally that can wreck havoc on your health or at the least just makes your body function less than it can. I've heard it can take up to a 6 months for your liver to heal itself. Excess alcohol also aromatizes  your natural testosterone into estrogen.

Personally I drink about 3 times a week. I binge and I know it effects my bodybuilding. I have noticed it kills my endurance in cardio. There is no such thing as having an good run after drinking the night before. I really believe I would be ripped with the amount of working out I do if it wasn't for alcohol.  

I wish you the best and remember the first few weeks are the hardest. It gets better.

Although you aren't offering advice, I am open to suggestions. As of now I have not had any alcohol in a week, so I am not tapering off. I choose not to drink anything for now. Presently, I have no cravings, but I know the bad habits I formed are still fresh in my mind. It does take time to make a full break from any habitual behavior we have. So far, so good. Actually, not drinking does seem hard to do at all.

I am lucky because despite the fact that some of the meds I take are hard on one's liver, my liver tests always come back normal. If drinking has affected my testosterone negatively, then I am anxious to experience if that changes over the next few months. I am not scheduled for labs to check testosterone for six months since I just visited my urologist last week. My most recent labs (where I abstained from testosterone injections two weeks prior) resulted in my total testosterone being at 475, which isn't bad for an old dude. I believe when I am injecting regularly it is up around 1,000.

About a month ago, I visited a cardiologist because I was having episodes of A-fib. I explained to him that I was drinking too much and said I would stop. He indicated that if I did, it would probably result improving this condition. A-fib can cause a stroke, which is a pretty scary thought. I have not had any episodes of A-fib since last Tuesday when my pulse was at 123 beats per minute at rest.

I am not too worried about being fat. I weight 185.5 lbs. this morning. That is a half pound more than I weight at 18 years of age, when I met my wife. Of course I was about 2" taller back then. Unless I start adding a bunch of muscle, I am thinking I could get down as far as 175 lbs. and still look fit but not too thin. I really like how being thinner makes me feel. All those years I spent trying to get big and now here I am trying to get lean....it is crazy! My secret is simply eating smaller portions....no special diets, calorie counting or cutting out foods I like. I think I am lucky in that I have a metabolism that responds well to this approach.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 20, 2014, 04:01:24 PM
If i drink too much Beer i feel it for a couple of Days after it. You are Dehydrated,tired and not motivated. Your normal training weights feel heavier than usual. I know the old saying sweat out the Booze the Day after.. better to rest a Day, eat well and then train after 2 Days.

When I was a kid, I snuck a can of beer into my room and hid it. Several days later, I decided to open the can and taste the beer. It tasted awful to me. Since that experience, I have never really acquired a taste for beer. I'll drink a beer or two if that's what is offered, but I prefer wine. German beer is better tasting to me than the beer we have here in the U.S.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 21, 2014, 06:42:05 AM
NJFLEX, can you give me some hints on how not to get ripped off when I bring my car to the dealer for an oil change? Last time he said we will rotate the tires for you too. My regular non dealer mechanic throws that in for free. Between the oil change and the rotation the bill was nearly $100 bucks.

The dealer service liaison or what ever his title is always is trying to sell me work for his commission but I never know if he's trying to sucker me.  I have had air filters almost pristine after  60K miles in my prior cars and he's always telling me mine is dirty after 25K miles when I pulled it myself prior and it looked completely white. They charge almost $50 bucks to put a $15 dollar filter in so I know they are looking for a sucker.

  Another thing that annoys me is that he has no clue who I am but one look at the notes that he keeps in his computer he acts like he knows me. The bastard kept notes on where my kids went to college. It's always the same routine. He asks for my name then brings me up in the computer. He reads a little then puts on we been best friends for ever act. I want to beat him in front of this coworkers. 

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 21, 2014, 11:04:33 AM
NJFLEX, can you give me some hints on how not to get ripped off when I bring my car to the dealer for an oil change? Last time he said we will rotate the tires for you too. My regular non dealer mechanic throws that in for free. Between the oil change and the rotation the bill was nearly $100 bucks.

The dealer service liaison or what ever his title is always is trying to sell me work for his commission but I never know if he's trying to sucker me.  I have had air filters almost pristine after  60K miles in my prior cars and he's always telling me mine is dirty after 25K miles when I pulled it myself prior and it looked completely white. They charge almost $50 bucks to put a $15 dollar filter in so I know they are looking for a sucker.

  Another thing that annoys me is that he has no clue who I am but one look at the notes that he keeps in his computer he acts like he knows me. The bastard kept notes on where my kids went to college. It's always the same routine. He asks for my name then brings me up in the computer. He reads a little then puts on we been best friends for ever act. I want to beat him in front of this coworkers. 


to be honest i work with someone with same character'it bothers me'friend in buisness as long as big $$$involved,,,i writer yes need bonus/commission to make a good living but other variables make a good writer,,i have area rep telling guys who run advertising in auto how thorough and well versed writer i am...i tell you what makes me good ,my customers are shocked even meeting me once and 2nd time they come in i greet them by name without even going into computer,i can tell them last repair i did like'did we fix that radio issue and is still good?'there like u have some memory,,i leave no notes in computer,i can tell them either there name or full name,what they drive and if i see them in new car i will remeber there last vehicle ,there like man ur sharp..i had a customer survey me with'steve is a great person and well versed in customer care,our other vehicle serviced at another dealer can't hold a candle to this guys customer service...i touch up people scratches if they have touch up paint,top off fluids if they just show up concerened with a warning light..

now it is your right to ask if u can see a filter or a nail in tire or wear on tires ,,i do it all the time or have it as reccomendation..ask for discount or go online and print up there coupons....100 dollars is decent i get a basic oil change 69.95  and filter seperate cabin/and or air 169.95 for service...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 21, 2014, 02:23:17 PM
NJFLEX, can you give me some hints on how not to get ripped off when I bring my car to the dealer for an oil change? Last time he said we will rotate the tires for you too. My regular non dealer mechanic throws that in for free. Between the oil change and the rotation the bill was nearly $100 bucks.

The dealer service liaison or what ever his title is always is trying to sell me work for his commission but I never know if he's trying to sucker me.  I have had air filters almost pristine after  60K miles in my prior cars and he's always telling me mine is dirty after 25K miles when I pulled it myself prior and it looked completely white. They charge almost $50 bucks to put a $15 dollar filter in so I know they are looking for a sucker.

  Another thing that annoys me is that he has no clue who I am but one look at the notes that he keeps in his computer he acts like he knows me. The bastard kept notes on where my kids went to college. It's always the same routine. He asks for my name then brings me up in the computer. He reads a little then puts on we been best friends for ever act. I want to beat him in front of this coworkers. 



I bought my last set of Michelin tires from American Tire Company. They rotate them for free. I used to buy tires from Les Schwab, they also rotate tires for free. I rotate oil changes between Oil Can Henry's and my mechanic. They both cost about $40. without any extra service. If I think I need extra service, I'd prefer my mechanic whom I have know for over 20 years to do it. Rarely, have I had my car serviced at a dealership. Unless something goes wrong that is covered by warranty, I avoid going to the dealer.

It is great when you get good customer service. It is even better when the person offering it has a excellent memory, like Njflex. Not everyone does. I can barely remember my friend's names. At least the service person where you take your vehicle, makes a effort to engage you. Some people don't even bother doing this.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 21, 2014, 07:03:58 PM
to be honest i work with someone with same character'it bothers me'friend in buisness as long as big $$$involved,,,i writer yes need bonus/commission to make a good living but other variables make a good writer,,i have area rep telling guys who run advertising in auto how thorough and well versed writer i am...i tell you what makes me good ,my customers are shocked even meeting me once and 2nd time they come in i greet them by name without even going into computer,i can tell them last repair i did like'did we fix that radio issue and is still good?'there like u have some memory,,i leave no notes in computer,i can tell them either there name or full name,what they drive and if i see them in new car i will remeber there last vehicle ,there like man ur sharp..i had a customer survey me with'steve is a great person and well versed in customer care,our other vehicle serviced at another dealer can't hold a candle to this guys customer service...i touch up people scratches if they have touch up paint,top off fluids if they just show up concerened with a warning light..

now it is your right to ask if u can see a filter or a nail in tire or wear on tires ,,i do it all the time or have it as reccomendation..ask for discount or go online and print up there coupons....100 dollars is decent i get a basic oil change 69.95  and filter seperate cabin/and or air 169.95 for service...

An oil change with synthetic oil shouldn't cost over $60. A quality air filter can be found for under $20 bucks without much effort. I guess I'm done with expensive dealer service. I will use my local mechanic or do it myself. If you ask to see a filter how do you know it's yours? Regarding knowing your customers you are really good if you see them every 6 to 8 weeks and remember stuff about them. Most would look at the appointment calender and check the info first in the computer. I have two fairly new cars that I own. One a Toyota and the other a Nissan. The Toyota dealer always tries to sell me on stuff for his commission with a big acting job about why it's necessary. I  normally do my own maintenance but I guess I'm getting soft in my older years. The Nissan dealer unlike Toyota requires no appointments for oil changes and they are quick. They might do a soft sell for commissioned extras but nothing like Toyota.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 21, 2014, 07:11:35 PM
legs ..heavy mid to lw reps..

hack squat 2 plates per side warmed x15..3/4/5/6..10/10/10/8
leg press 5 plates/6/7/...12/10/8
lunges 45 lb plate ea hand stairs up/down/up/down..
leg extensions..220/235/250 set 12

hams
lying leg curls 140/155/165..10/10/9
sldl 185/225/225..hurting here  ;D

cales
leg press x3 with standing calf raises x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 21, 2014, 07:50:22 PM
I completely stopped all supplements for about a year or so. I just got a big jug of whey isolate from Costco and I'm thinking about jumping back on the supplement wagon again.

I just really wonder if protein supplements are necessary. I remember Clarence Bass was pretty convincing back in the day with research to back him up that high protein isn't necessary for a weight trainer. He seemed to change positions slightly when he started selling protein if my memory serves me.

Do you guys take protein supplements? I made my best gains when I was taking whey protein and creatine. I don't know how much they helped. Would I have made the same gains without them? I always felt the supplement that made a difference was creatine but my kidney tests always came back bad and gotten better when I was off it. Some bro science guys claims using creatine will throw off kidney tests because of it's by products but I wonder.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 21, 2014, 08:00:08 PM
I completely stopped all supplements for about a year or so. I just got a big jug of whey isolate from Costco and I'm thinking about jumping back on the supplement wagon again.

I just really wonder if protein supplements are necessary. I remember Clarence Bass was pretty convincing back in the day with research to back him up that high protein isn't necessary for a weight trainer. He seemed to change positions slightly when he started selling protein if my memory serves me.

Do you guys take protein supplements? I made my best gains when I was taking whey protein and creatine. I don't know how much they helped. Would I have made the same gains without them? I always felt the supplement that made a difference was creatine but my kidney tests always came back bad and gotten better when I was off it. Some bro science guys claims using creatine will throw off kidney tests because of it's by products but I wonder.


i make whey pudding,,put it in oatmeal/cereal/greek yogurt ,,so yes around my meals i use it...multi/and i use a preworkout tablet agmatine increases vascularity/pump better than n.o/arginine...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 22, 2014, 06:56:59 AM
Chest/Abs/cardio..

flat DB press 3 sets
Flat flys 3 sets
Incline BB press 3 sets
Incline flys 3 sets
push up Bar push ups 2 xmax

Abs: Hanging knee raises 3x20-30 (elbows supported vertical bench)
Cardio: bike 30 mins Interval programme.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 22, 2014, 10:47:33 AM
Chest/Abs/cardio..

flat DB press 3 sets
Flat flys 3 sets
Incline BB press 3 sets
Incline flys 3 sets
push up Bar push ups 2 xmax

Abs: Hanging knee raises 3x20-30 (elbows supported vertical bench)
Cardio: bike 30 mins Interval programme.
i'm goinf to do/try classic decline bench,yrs and yrs Donny since I did them,dbells yes...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 22, 2014, 10:50:58 AM
I completely stopped all supplements for about a year or so. I just got a big jug of whey isolate from Costco and I'm thinking about jumping back on the supplement wagon again.

I just really wonder if protein supplements are necessary. I remember Clarence Bass was pretty convincing back in the day with research to back him up that high protein isn't necessary for a weight trainer. He seemed to change positions slightly when he started selling protein if my memory serves me.

Do you guys take protein supplements? I made my best gains when I was taking whey protein and creatine. I don't know how much they helped. Would I have made the same gains without them? I always felt the supplement that made a difference was creatine but my kidney tests always came back bad and gotten better when I was off it. Some bro science guys claims using creatine will throw off kidney tests because of it's by products but I wonder.



I've added protein supplements to my diet when training in the past. Mainly it was because I wanted to eat five small meals a day and fixing actual food that often was too much of a bother. Currently, I am doing fine on a lot less protein. Is the theory that we need 1 gram of protein for each pound of weight scientifically proven to be right? I also have used creatine. It is hard to say if they supplements really work or we just imagine they do. There is a lot of power in believing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 22, 2014, 01:42:35 PM
I can't find any credible research that indicates the often repeated one gram of protein per body weight. None at all. Show me the double blind nitrogen retention studies. Show me a real college that had a control group and some real numbers tested. There isn't any. I just wonder if using extra protein is a scam. I say that as I look at my new tub of whey isolate.  ::)

Today I did this for cardio on the treadmill.  I did 8 x 400 meters with a 200 meter fast walk for the rest interval. This is the progression.  Each represents one lap for the work sets. 7.5 MPH-8.0MPH-8.0MPH-8.6MPH-8.6MPH-9.0MPH-10.0 MPH.

Took a couple of hours off then did chest and biceps yates style. No warm ups listed. I went very close to complete exhaustion. I know if someone put a gun to my head I could have gotten more reps. I don't like using weight used because in bodybuilding it's meaningless. Some do shallow squats with 380lbs and another is doing more work doing full range with 250lbs.

Flat dumbbell bench 1 x 10 80lbs ( did them slow with a full range of motion)
Incline dumbbell bench 1 x 9
flat flies 1 x 12
Push ups 2 x max

ez bar curl 1 x 12
dumbbell alternate curls 1  x 10 (10 reps each hand)
Single arm pulley curl 1 x 15
concentration curl 1 x 12

forearm wrist curl 1x 26
reverse wrist curl 1 x 15

hanging leg raise 1 x max
feet up on bench weighted crunches1 x 50
machine pulley crunches 1 x 25

Ivanko grippers 2 x 20


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on September 22, 2014, 05:10:44 PM
NO TRAINING TONIGHT......WATCHING THE JETS AND BEARS.......TOMORROW WILL BE BACK AND CALVES.




HOPE EVERYONE HAD A NICE WEEKEND!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 22, 2014, 06:41:53 PM
chest ...

fdb press 60/70/80/85 till failure,,
decline press straight bar  felt good long time x3
flyes inc 40/45/50 with pullover bar superset
dips x3 x15 set 1 bodyweight set 2/3 added 25 lb plate
cable crossovers x3

tris
rope extensions x4
pushdowns x3
single arm rope extensions x3
close grip bench x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 23, 2014, 08:08:59 AM
Went to the dealer and got my oil changed with synthetic oil for $69 bucks. Happy about it. For the first time he didn't try to sell me stuff I didn't need. I think he knows I don't like being a sucker. No windshield wipers, air filter, cabin filter, tire rotation, brake pads needed, your battery is showing age or any other bs. The car has 25K miles on it.

 The last car I drove I never let any mechanic touch it and I got it to 17 years running flawless. I sold it to a college kid for a song who was down on his luck. I told him how I maintained it and he said he would do the same. The car is 21 years old now and running great!  I just reached an age where I don't want to do maintenance. I know how easy it is to change oil, brake pads, sparks and filters but I'm just done with self car maintenance.

Keeping it bodybuilding related. Training legs today and getting pre leg anxiety about it. Here I go.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on September 23, 2014, 11:08:41 AM
assisted pullups   4 sets

seated cable rows   4 sets

one arm hammer rows  4 sets

hammer pulldowns  3 sets

hyperextensions  3 sets

cybex rotary calf machine  5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on September 23, 2014, 07:00:31 PM
Ahhhhh...Back and chest today.  As usual it was primarily done with machines.  So, that begs the question (and allows me to shame myself with the weight I use!):

What are the actual weights lifted on these things?  I think it is at most half what is shown on the weight stack.  I cannot comfortably bench press 135 right now on a real bench as it just hurts too damn much and I will get stuck under the pain of the weight but can use a machine bench and get ten wussified reps with a listed 100 lbs. 

I am guessing it is an actual 50 lbs. I am lifting, maybe less.  It is both humbling and humiliating to admit to a poundage like this but honesty is what's needed here.  Dammit!  ;D  I was never much of a bench presser but could do leg work like  few others I knew.  I use machines for shoulders, back, arms...sheesh!  Pretty much my entire body except for my legs of which one is permanently teensie weensie from injury so I no longer train them as I don't want to look like a human fiddler crab.   ;D

Anybody here know what these machines (on average) actually have you lifting?  Half their listed weight. Less? More?  Who knows?

I am such a wimp, I know.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 23, 2014, 07:55:56 PM
I hope the weights aren't half what is shown on the stack. Frankly, it probably depends on the machine. Some machines actually weigh something with no added weight. This depends on how they are balanced. most Nautilus machines are probably weightless until you stick a pin in the stack. At the gym there is a Nautilus dip machine that actually subtracts from your bodyweight. This machine is indeed lighter. Some Hammer machines have weight before you add plates to them. The Hammer hack squat for example has machine weight.

Most of the back and chest Hammer Strength machines are pretty well balanced. I think the weight is whatever you add to the machine. Because of the lever action, which allows that you do not have to work against gravity in the case of some back and chest machines, the weight resistance is probably lighter.

Personally, I think it matters not how much weight you lift as long as you are exerting yourself and increasing your strength and endurance. Form is everything in my book. Machines often require that you use good form which is a bonus. I've seen my share of people doing sloppy lifting with too heavy weights. Not only is this probably not very productive, it is dangerous. This is how folks get injuries.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 24, 2014, 04:03:40 AM
assisted pullups   4 sets

seated cable rows   4 sets

one arm hammer rows  4 sets

hammer pulldowns  3 sets

hyperextensions  3 sets

cybex rotary calf machine  5 sets
good to see you back
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 24, 2014, 04:20:45 AM
I hope the weights aren't half what is shown on the stack. Frankly, it probably depends on the machine. Some machines actually weigh something with no added weight. This depends on how they are balanced. most Nautilus machines are probably weightless until you stick a pin in the stack. At the gym there is a Nautilus dip machine that actually subtracts from your bodyweight. This machine is indeed lighter. Some Hammer machines have weight before you add plates to them. The Hammer hack squat for example has machine weight.

Most of the back and chest Hammer Strength machines are pretty well balanced. I think the weight is whatever you add to the machine. Because of the lever action, which allows that you do not have to work against gravity in the case of some back and chest machines, the weight resistance is probably lighter.

Personally, I think it matters not how much weight you lift as long as you are exerting yourself and increasing your strength and endurance. Form is everything in my book. Machines often require that you use good form which is a bonus. I've seen my share of people doing sloppy lifting with too heavy weights. Not only is this probably not very productive, it is dangerous. This is how folks get injuries.
i agree with you. As long as your muscles are being taxed it will work. If i could not do a pressing exercise(with free weights) i would use a machine. if i could not squat i would leg press and not worry too much. some machines like Jay mentioned namely hammer are excellent for back and chest workouts and shoulders. mix Some Dumbbell work in their or cables as long as you get the job done.

Tonight Back..

Wide grip pulldowns 3/4 sets
close grip pulldowns 3/4 sets
BB rows 3/4 sets
BB pullovers 3/4 sets

lower back i worked last night with legs. cardio cross trainer and will finish with some machine crunches 2-3 sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 24, 2014, 06:01:27 AM
NICE WORKOUTS BRO'S AND GOOD TO SEE FULL CREW HERE ....I DRANK WINE /SUSHI /DAY OFF TRAINING LAST EVE...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 24, 2014, 11:39:02 AM
NICE WORKOUTS BRO'S AND GOOD TO SEE FULL CREW HERE ....I DRANK WINE /SUSHI /DAY OFF TRAINING LAST EVE...

Speaking of drinking. It is now week two and day 13 with no alcohol. I think about having a drink occasionally, but there is no real craving. So far, so good. Probably the drink I miss most is wine, but I want to be sure I am completely over the habit of drinking before having a glass of wine. Aside from the fact that I've had a cold for the last week, I feel great!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 24, 2014, 12:05:00 PM
Speaking of drinking. It is now week two and day 13 with no alcohol. I think about having a drink occasionally, but there is no real craving. So far, so good. Probably the drink I miss most is wine, but I want to be sure I am completely over the habit of drinking before having a glass of wine. Aside from the fact that I've had a cold for the last week, I feel great!
I DRINK VERY CASUALLY,,,2-3 GLASSES LAST NITE AND MY HEAD HURT IN MORNING ,,LOVE THOSE REDS THO..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 25, 2014, 06:30:56 AM
BACK ATTACK...

CHINS WIDE X2 INNER X2
UNDERHAND PULLDOWNS X3
BENT OVER ROWS 185/225/235
CABLE ROWS PULLY SINGLE GRIPS DONE TOGETHER BUT YOU CAN BACK FURTHER SQUEEZE THOSE LATS WITH SINGLE'S
FINISHED WITH A TBAR ROW INNER GRIP CHEST TO PAD/DID PARTIAL RANGE REPS PULLING WITH LATS JUST MID POINT TO HIT MID TO
UPPER BACK MUSCLE,KEEPS TENSION THERE,,SORE TODAY IN THAT LOWER TRAP AREA..

WEIGHTED HYPERS 45 LB PLATE SETS 12X3

BIS
DB CURLS 30/35/40
CURLS PREMADE CURL BAR 70/80/90
ROPE CURLS HIGHER REPS DID 6 REPS BOTTOM TO MIDPOINT THEN SIX REPS FULL,,LAST SET 20 REPS DONE DID 3 SETS

ABS
ABROLLER MACHINE SETS 30X5 THESES BURN..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 25, 2014, 08:05:24 AM
BACK ATTACK...

CHINS WIDE X2 INNER X2
UNDERHAND PULLDOWNS X3
BENT OVER ROWS 185/225/235
CABLE ROWS PULLY SINGLE GRIPS DONE TOGETHER BUT YOU CAN BACK FURTHER SQUEEZE THOSE LATS WITH SINGLE'S
FINISHED WITH A TBAR ROW INNER GRIP CHEST TO PAD/DID PARTIAL RANGE REPS PULLING WITH LATS JUST MID POINT TO HIT MID TO
UPPER BACK MUSCLE,KEEPS TENSION THERE,,SORE TODAY IN THAT LOWER TRAP AREA..

WEIGHTED HYPERS 45 LB PLATE SETS 12X3

BIS
DB CURLS 30/35/40
CURLS PREMADE CURL BAR 70/80/90
ROPE CURLS HIGHER REPS DID 6 REPS BOTTOM TO MIDPOINT THEN SIX REPS FULL,,LAST SET 20 REPS DONE DID 3 SETS

ABS
ABROLLER MACHINE SETS 30X5 THESES BURN..

BIG BACK::BIG BACK  :)

I did shoulders today:
Tri set..
front raises 4 sets
Side raises 4 sets
Rear delt raises 4 sets

BB military press 3 sets
BB upright rows 3sets

Cardio 15 mins crosser,15 mins bike,15 mins rowing.(rowing really blasts my lower arms)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 25, 2014, 07:50:42 PM
delts/forarms /calves

front press superset with single armcable raises.x3  and4th set side cables did 10 rep 3x drops..
upright row x2
rear raises seated x3
rear dumbellside raise dbells behind back and brought up to shoulder level x3

shrugs 225/275/295/315
2 sets holding 45 lb plate each hand 10 repsside and 10repsbehind back

forearms
wrist roller weighted up/down /up x4
reverse cable curls x3
behind back x3

calves
5 sets calf raises,,
 

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 26, 2014, 07:09:32 AM
Trained arms Today.

BB curls 3 sets
Incline DB curls 3 sets
Concentration curls(cable) 3 sets

lying DB extensions 3 sets
Incline BB extensions 3 sets
Cable kickbacks 3 sets

Crunches Superset with Leg raises 3 sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on September 26, 2014, 09:21:33 AM
delts and hams:

magnum machine presses   4 sets

cable side laterals   4 sets

reverse pec deck   4 sets

hammer shrugs  4 sets

unilateral leg curls  4 sets

lying leg curls  4 sets

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 26, 2014, 03:07:44 PM
For cardio I run 2 to 5 miles usually on off lifting days. I just started doing quarter mile intervals for a change. I use to be a decent sprinter in my younger years. I just finished almost 2 weeks of intervals. The fastest I do the quarter miles is a little under a 6 minute mile pace (10.1 MPH). The slowest an eight minute mile pace (7.5 MPH). Yesterday I felt a slight pull on one hamstring. I guess I'm back to doing 2 to 5 mile runs for awhile.  

I found the hard 400 meter/one lap intervals made me lose fat at an really fast rate. It's also a brutal way to train. I run a quarter mile then I walk for a 200 meter rest interval. It's the high intensity of running. It not easy. Most bodybuilders will do something like 40 yard repeats. I really think it's best for fat loss to keep it a something like 6 x 800 or 8 x 400.  The rest interval for the half mile repeats can be a 400 meter super slow jog or fast walk.  For the 400 do a 200 meter fast walk or slow jog.

I'm going to keep mixing up the intervals and the normal distance running for cardio. It's been so long that I did intervals more than once week and I really saw a quick fat loss. As long as I'm healthy I'm going to keep doing it.

Interval are very hard on the heart muscle because it really red lines the tach so too speak. For us older guys it can be dangerous so make sure the doctor gives the okay. It also can be hard on the joints. I remember a member of this board decided to include 40 yard sprints and snapped his Achilles tendon.

I'll let you know how my progress goes putting intervals back in the mix for fat loss. I just have to stay healthy regarding joints and muscles. Going to back off the poundage in lifting so I have the energy for these running workouts.

Anyway these are my thoughts on cardio for fat loss. I know most steroid monsters do ultra slow walking for cardio. Seems like a waste of time but seems to work for drug guys. Now fast walking is another story. It's effective.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 26, 2014, 10:54:31 PM
Good post Rich . I like doing hill work Really gets you Working hard too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 27, 2014, 09:12:14 AM
Nice weather today just been for a cycle around the town ...quads feel pumped ..lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on September 27, 2014, 09:50:49 AM
Have not trained since early Wednesday morning as i was quite sore.  Just finished a quickie workout in my dinky garage gym of the following.

One set each for 50 reps.

Lat pulldowns.
Machine Bench Presses.

BB curls w/2" bar.
Tricep pushdowns.

Wrist Roller both directions until I could not do it.


I don't have a shoulder press machine and BB or DB presses just hurt too much so that will have to wait until Monday  morning at work in that gym.
My vertical machine bench puts some strain on my wrists with the angle (the right hurts more than the left) so I just pay attention to that aspect of training at home.  I might go back out later on and do some DB laterals with standard diameter handles vs the 2" ones as I just remembered i could do those instead of presses. ;D  I will also knock out a bunch of Roman Chair style sit-ups at that time.

The dieting process is going well and I have established a cheat day on Sunday wherein I will eat more carbs than I normally do.  Currently eating around 2,500 or so calories per day as opposed to approx 4,500 or more.  I am hoping for a more muscular physique vs the perma-bulker look I've allowed my ego to carry around for more years than I care to count up. Bodyweight is down 36 pounds to 192 with a body fat of 19.5% being down from  24.5%.  Still fluffy after all these years.  ;D

My new leg brace will be fitted to me on 10/10 so I am excited about that.  Not a big deal when I see people without a leg or worse but its something for me to be happy about as it will help stabilize me when I walk.  Nothing like a semi-buff old dude falling in an Olive Garden on the way to being seated to make his family not want to be seen in public with him!

Keep training, gentlemen.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on September 27, 2014, 12:49:31 PM
SPEEDY RECOVERY TO YOU SIR!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on September 27, 2014, 12:51:18 PM
Nice weather today just been for a cycle around the town ...quads feel pumped ..lol
ENJOY THE WEEKEND DONNY.....YOU TRAIN HARD ALL WEEK.....YOU DESERVE TO RELAX AND ENJOY THE GREAT WEATHER!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 27, 2014, 02:31:24 PM
ENJOY THE WEEKEND DONNY.....YOU TRAIN HARD ALL WEEK.....YOU DESERVE TO RELAX AND ENJOY THE GREAT WEATHER!
thanks ..I like cycling around only really use the car when I need to
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 27, 2014, 02:36:16 PM
SPEEDY RECOVERY TO YOU SIR!
x2...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 27, 2014, 06:56:05 PM
good stuff fella's....

legs reps/volume/heavy..

leg press 4 platesx12/5x12/6x10/7x8/then drop from 8 plates x4 :-\heavy..drop to 6x8,5x8...tough 20 reps.\
squat close stance 225.275.315 sets 10
extension drops 220/190 x3 10x10   cooked.

hams
supersetted lying leg curls with seated calf raise...140/150/155/160 x10..3 plates to almost 4 on calf raise..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 27, 2014, 11:43:25 PM
Steve you're now going to called Quadzilla....amazing leg strength and endurance
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 28, 2014, 06:50:51 AM
Steve you're now going to called Quadzilla....amazing leg strength and endurance
i try and staying lean on top of it and still staying progressively strong proves that bulking or training heavy means nothing,,you can be lean and just as strong if i gained 10/15lbs i don't think my strenght would be that off the charts better,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on September 28, 2014, 06:23:57 PM
back:

db rows   4 sets

reverse grip pulldowns   4 sets

seated cable rows   4 sets

hammer pulldowns  3 sets

hyperextensions  2 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 29, 2014, 07:22:51 AM
back:

db rows   4 sets

reverse grip pulldowns   4 sets

seated cable rows   4 sets

hammer pulldowns  3 sets

hyperextensions  2 sets
You are more like me and use moderate volume. I did a slightly diffrent workout today. Started on Incline press and worked my way down so to speak.

incline BB press 3 sets
flat DB press 3 sets
Threw in some flat flys 3 sets(gave me a breather)
Decline BB press 3 sets

Seated calf raises 5 sets. No cardio.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 29, 2014, 07:25:39 AM
You are more like me and use moderate volume. I did a slightly diffrent workout today. Started on Incline press and worked my way down so to speak.

incline BB press 3 sets
flat DB press 3 sets
Threw in some flat flys 3 sets(gave me a breather)
Decline BB press 3 sets

Seated calf raises 5 sets. No cardio.


DECLINE PRESS NICE...I DOING THEM AGAIN 2 NITE...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 29, 2014, 07:31:01 AM
DECLINE PRESS NICE...I DOING THEM AGAIN 2 NITE...
like i wrote before, most of the young Bucks just do Barbell Flat Bench.. itīs not a big gym so i can use the Decline Bench. Still i have Educated a few  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 29, 2014, 07:44:18 AM
No cardio today as my legs were a bit tired. I have been cycling the last couple of Days fairly intensive as it was nice weather... lucky we have good cycle paths here at the sides of the Roads.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 29, 2014, 07:53:25 AM
No cardio today as my legs were a bit tired. I have been cycling the last couple of Days fairly intensive as it was nice weather... lucky we have good cycle paths here at the sides of the Roads.


MY LEGS ARE SORE STILL FROM SAT LEGS MAN...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 29, 2014, 07:58:50 AM
MY LEGS ARE SORE STILL FROM SAT LEGS MAN...
No wonder. Quadzilla ;D. Cycling really pumps up my legs and calfes. I have always had heavy thighs from nature , i tend to find higher reps work better for me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on September 29, 2014, 09:39:51 AM
You are more like me and use moderate volume. I did a slightly diffrent workout today. Started on Incline press and worked my way down so to speak.

incline BB press 3 sets
flat DB press 3 sets
Threw in some flat flys 3 sets(gave me a breather)
Decline BB press 3 sets

Seated calf raises 5 sets. No cardio.


yes........I like to do 12-14 sets for chest, back, legs, etc......and 10 or so sets for bis and tris.....calves usually get 6 sets.


I do train arms a little more often.....like twice a week.......but I work everything else just once a week.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 29, 2014, 09:54:39 AM
yes........I like to do 12-14 sets for chest, back, legs, etc......and 10 or so sets for bis and tris.....calves usually get 6 sets.


I do train arms a little more often.....like twice a week.......but I work everything else just once a week.
Good stuff i think moderate volume is good (for me)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 29, 2014, 10:04:29 AM
Good stuff i think moderate volume is good (for me)
that's my take
chest 15-17
back same
delts 15/traps 6
quads 13/hams 6-8
calves 2x wk 5 sets then 6-8
abs whatever...
bis 8-11 tris sometimes 12
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 29, 2014, 10:06:23 AM
I've been sitting here with a pen and paper trying to work out a strategy in working out for me. At 55 I still compare myself to my youth. I have memories of what I did and might even have the workout journals somewhere. I remember Bill Pearl said in effect at 55 he stopped being concerned with weight and more concerned about consistency in workouts. What good is working out like an animal if you're constantly getting injured and burning yourself out?

In the past I would train like a lunatic for 3 to 4 weeks and then I was burned out. I would take days to a week off. I thought about doing volume with moderate to light weights but it really rubs me the wrong way. I can't go into a gym and pick up a light weight and do repeated sets. Tomorrow I'm doing my one set to failure routine with the exception of few exercises that get more.

I tweaked my usual program. Instead of doing 3 sets of 3 reps in the power clean where the weight really gets heavy, I'm going to do 2 sets of 6 reps which will force me to use a lighter weight. Also going to do exercises that I haven't done in awhile so I really have no baseline to judge poundage's. I almost always include the barbell squat in my leg routine. I'm going to substitute dumbbell squats. It's a hard exercise if you keep your back upright and really sink it until the dumbbells almost touch the floor. Sometimes we get in a rut doing the same exercises all the time. It's good for the body and mind to switch it up. Another change is doing fewer exercises. I always designed programs to be an omni all including structure that I'm beginning to realize it's a mistake for a non bodybuilder. To be a better functioning athlete do you really need 4 exercises a body part? I will also try to include more body weight conditioning exercises.

A real positive is that my cardio program is going well. The heart is the most important muscle. If we had our heart outside our body then bodybuilders would be doing cardio like crazy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 29, 2014, 10:23:27 AM
that's my take
chest 15-17
back same
delts 15/traps 6
quads 13/hams 6-8
calves 2x wk 5 sets then 6-8
abs whatever...
bis 8-11 tris sometimes 12
I think when you feel the fatigue..itīs enough. More is just asking for an injury.
I've been sitting here with a pen and paper trying to work out a strategy in working out for me. At 55 I still compare myself to my youth. I have memories of what I did and might even have the workout journals somewhere. I remember Bill Pearl said in effect at 55 he stopped being concerned with weight and more concerned about consistency in workouts. What good is working out like an animal if you're constantly getting injured and burning yourself out?

In the past I would train like a lunatic for 3 to 4 weeks and then I was burned out. I would take days to a week off. I thought about doing volume with moderate to light weights but it really rubs me the wrong way. I can't go into a gym and pick up a light weight and do repeated sets. Tomorrow I'm doing my one set to failure routine with the exception of few exercises that get more.

I tweaked my usual program. Instead of doing 3 sets of 3 reps in the power clean where the weight really gets heavy, I'm going to do 2 sets of 6 reps which will force me to use a lighter weight. Also going to do exercises that I haven't done in awhile so I really have no baseline to judge poundage's. I almost always include the barbell squat in my leg routine. I'm going to substitute dumbbell squats. It's a hard exercise if you keep your back upright and really sink it until the dumbbells almost touch the floor. Sometimes we get in a rut doing the same exercises all the time. It's good for the body and mind to switch it up. Another change is doing fewer exercises. I always designed programs to be an omni all including structure that I'm beginning to realize it's a mistake for a non bodybuilder. To be a better functioning athlete do you really need 4 exercises a body part? I will also try to include more body weight conditioning exercises.

A real positive is that my cardio program is going well. The heart is the most important muscle. If we had our heart outside our body then bodybuilders would be doing cardio like crazy.

I totally agree with you. you need to train intelligent.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 29, 2014, 10:38:33 AM
I think when you feel the fatigue..itīs enough. More is just asking for an injury.  
I totally agree with you. you need to train intelligent.
yeah could be less some days ,mostly this is it..i agree Donny training has so many variables..set in stone lol no such thing..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on September 29, 2014, 10:44:02 AM
yeah could be less some days ,mostly this is it..i agree Donny training has so many variables..set in stone lol no such thing..
100% some Days you feel like Hercules and other Days tired. Intelligent training is really listening to your body.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on September 29, 2014, 07:05:17 PM
100% some Days you feel like Hercules and other Days tired. Intelligent training is really listening to your body.

Yuppers!

Today was excellent for me!  I felt so good, so able to handle incredibly teensie weensie weights that I upped the poundage to, well...to more. 

DB Laterals for 7 sets increasing the weight and dropping the reps from 20 to 5 for the last two sets.
Machine shoulder presses.  It seemed heavy to me and heavier as I went down the stack for another 7 sets with the same rep range.
Machine rear delts.  Again, 7 sets increasing the weight and dropping the reps from 15 to 5.


BB curls for 5 sets.  The first two warm and then the last three with a working weight for 5 reps without a cheat swing.
Alternate DB curls.  My new bicep favorite.  7 sets of 20 down to 5 reps.

Tricep pushdowns.  7 sets increasing the weight and dropping the reps from 15 to 5.
Machine close grip bench press.  5 sets of 5 reps with the final three with as working sets.

Pulley wrist curls.  3 sets both directions.

Ran out of time and will do abs tomorrow.

I feel pretty darn normal right now and for me, that is great!  Dammit!  Hope I didn't screw myself up having such a good session.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 29, 2014, 07:17:53 PM
chest trying t0 increase load with same reps i maxxed other sets 'dbells flat'jumped to heavy dbell with different weight jumps..was finishing 85's till failure it could have been 4/5 reps then dropped to finished ,was able to improve reps minus the drop,,

fdb started 55 warned x12,,65/75/85/85,,skipped the 80's to go up..
decline press x3
flyes incline 45/50/55
pullovers bar 70/80/80
cables crossovers superset decline pushups x3

tris 'tri set'

dip machine/extension seated machine /rope pushdowns x3...reps 10/10/10 each ..
2 sets finish cable kickbacks x15 reps

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 29, 2014, 08:05:36 PM
Aside from the fact that I have bronchial pneumonia, I am doing great. Every figgin' time I get a cold, which isn't often, it ends up causing bronchial pneumonia. This started when I was 4 years old and has continued all my life. It will probably be what kills me.

I was so looking forward to starting back working out this fall and I still will as soon as this shit is over with.

Other than that, I still have not had any alcoholic beverages and I don't really miss it. No doubt the anti-anxiety medication my doctor put me on has helped me kick this bad habit.

I enjoy all your posts detailing your workout routines. You all continue to be an inspiration.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 30, 2014, 11:05:23 AM
Wow, get well prime. Sounds like a lousy hand you were dealt. Lung problems are horrible. Hope your health gets better.

Despite what I wrote in my last post and I will adhere to it; I just felt like a volume day today. I rarely use volume. Volume just feels weird to me. I'm use to going to failure and just stopping a set when I got more in the tank just feels weird. It's also incredibly monotonous to keep doing the  same exercise over and over again. I also noticed with volume my hands are shaking like crazy when I ate lunch. 16 sets a body part just put my nerves on edge.

Press behind the neck 4 x 6
dumbbell laterals        4 x 10
One arm pulley laterals 3 x 10
rear delt dumbbell lateral 4 x 10
barbell shrug 4 x 10

barbell curls 4 x 10
dumbbell alternate curls 4 x 8
rope pulley curls 4 x 12
concentration curls 4 x 12

dips 4 x 10
tricep pushdowns 4 x 10
seated tricep extension with an ez bar 4 x 10
reverse grip single arm pulley kick back 4 x 14

forearm wrist curls 4 x 20
reverse  forearm extension 4 x 15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 30, 2014, 11:35:45 AM
Wow, get well prime. Sounds like a lousy hand you were dealt. Lung problems are horrible. Hope your health gets better.

My doctor prescribed Azithromycin, a very powerful antibiotic. It is already beginning to work. I feel lots better today then yesterday.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on September 30, 2014, 09:13:09 PM
My doctor prescribed Azithromycin, a very powerful antibiotic. It is already beginning to work. I feel lots better today then yesterday.



Excellent my friend!  It is good to see you and I would hazard that you would say it is good to be seen.   ;D

Today was back and chest and went well enough although not quite as good as the previous days training.

I started out with pull-ups. I cannot do them with a regular overhand grip as it hurts my shoulders too much so I use a pull-up bar that has the palms facing inwards about 20 or so inches apart.  I got 16 on the first set, 10 on the second and 7 on the third.  No pain! YES!

Smith Machine rows were next for three sets increasing weight and lowering reps from 10 to 5.  It felt good.

One arm DB rows for 3 sets of 5 reps.  Wussy Weight too.



Machine bench presses 3 sets increasing weight and reps from 12 down to 5
Incline Smith Machine bench presses three sets of 10 reps.  Again, itty bitty weight but felt good doing them.
Classic DB flat bench flys done as the Oak would do them for  3 sets of 10 with the same weight each set.

Stomach work for 100 reps.


Keep it up, gentlemen.  Prime my young friend, you shall be at the very center of my prayers and although my faith in God sometimes waivers (and to date is reaffirmed by the goodness of some men), my faith in you, your friendship and the love you have for your family will not.  This is true of all who come here.  OneMoreRep is another excellent example of what it means to be a man of honor and dignity.  As are you all.

Be well gentlemen!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on September 30, 2014, 09:39:10 PM
Excellent my friend!  It is good to see you and I would hazard that you would say it is good to be seen.   ;D

Today was back and chest and went well enough although not quite as good as the previous days training.

I started out with pull-ups. I cannot do them with a regular overhand grip as it hurts my shoulders too much so I use a pull-up bar that has the palms facing inwards about 20 or so inches apart.  I got 16 on the first set, 10 on the second and 7 on the third.  No pain! YES!

Smith Machine rows were next for three sets increasing weight and lowering reps from 10 to 5.  It felt good.

One arm DB rows for 3 sets of 5 reps.  Wussy Weight too.



Machine bench presses 3 sets increasing weight and reps from 12 down to 5
Incline Smith Machine bench presses three sets of 10 reps.  Again, itty bitty weight but felt good doing them.
Classic DB flat bench flys done as the Oak would do them for  3 sets of 10 with the same weight each set.

Stomach work for 100 reps.


Keep it up, gentlemen.  Prime my young friend, you shall be at the very center of my prayers and although my faith in God sometimes waivers (and to date is reaffirmed by the goodness of some men), my faith in you, your friendship and the love you have for your family will not.  This is true of all who come here.  OneMoreRep is another excellent example of what it means to be a man of honor and dignity.  As are you all.

Be well gentlemen!

The gym where I workout has a Nautilus machine that provides weight assisted pull-ups/chins and dips. The way it works is that whatever weight you chose on the stack is counterbalanced or reduces your bodyweight. When doing these exercises your knees rest on a pad. It is a great way to ease into doing an exercise that generally is done with full bodyweight or with added weights. Think about it, if your best weight for doing behind the neck pull-downs is 120 lbs., with this machine you can also do pull-ups with that same weight regardless of what your bodyweight is.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 01, 2014, 04:31:21 AM
Trained legs yesterday

Seated leg curls 4 sets
Front squats 4 sets
Seated leg press 4 sets
Stiff Deads 4 sets

calf raises on the leg press 5 sets  Abs: Crunches 3xmax, cardio 30 mins crosstrainer interval programme. gym was busy when i was in there so i did straight sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on October 01, 2014, 11:30:28 AM
do you guys like hash browns?


I tried the 365 brand from whole foods last eve.....holy shit were they tasty!!!


nice alternative to rice and baked potatoes.

arms tonight:

standing ez bar   4 sets

seated db curls  4 sets

flat head machine curls  4 sets


rope pushdowns  4 sets

assisted dips 4 sets

reverse grip extensions 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 01, 2014, 01:06:10 PM
do you guys like hash browns?


I tried the 365 brand from whole foods last eve.....holy shit were they tasty!!!


nice alternative to rice and baked potatoes.

arms tonight:

standing ez bar   4 sets

seated db curls  4 sets

flat head machine curls  4 sets


rope pushdowns  4 sets

assisted dips 4 sets

reverse grip extensions 4 sets

I sometimes use frozen hash brown potatoes to make potato pancakes or latkes. All you need to add is some beaten eggs, a little flour, seasonings and maybe a few herbs and you have a delicious dish that is loaded with good things for you. Dab on a little sour cream, sprinkle with salt and pepper and you are good to go. Some people prefer eating these with apple sauce.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 02, 2014, 02:30:35 AM
Berend Breitenstein a good Natural German Bodybuilder. Good shape for over 50. He invited me up to Hamburg to train. Itīs only about 1 hour 20 away in the car.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on October 02, 2014, 02:46:18 AM
Berend Breitenstein a good Natural German Bodybuilder. Good shape for over 50. He invited me up to Hamburg to train. It´s only about 1 hour 20 away in the car.

Cool.  Getting ready to leave in awhile.  Will be doing a total body, well, upper body because of my fiddler crab right leg  ;D, workout.

One set to failure of each of the following.

Pull-ups.
Smith Machine bent over rows.
One arm DB rows.

Machine bench press.
Smith Machine incline bench press.
DB flat bench flys.

Standing DB laterals.
Machine shoulder presses.
DB bent over laterals.

BB curls.
Alternate DB curls.
Scott Bench curls.

Tricep Pushdowns.
Close grip machine bench press.

Pulley wrist curls - Both directions.

Machine sit-ups.

A co-worker says he will come in to train with me but I doubt it.    ;D  My German sucks. Even though that is a large part of my heritage I could never learn to speak it as my family stopped when they came to America because as my father said, they came here to be Americans, not Germans in America.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 02, 2014, 02:55:32 AM
Cool.  Getting ready to leave in awhile.  Will be doing a total body, well, upper body because of my fiddler crab right leg  ;D, workout.

One set to failure of each of the following.

Pull-ups.
Smith Machine bent over rows.
One arm DB rows.

Machine bench press.
Smith Machine incline bench press.
DB flat bench flys.

Standing DB laterals.
Machine shoulder presses.
DB bent over laterals.

BB curls.
Alternate DB curls.
Scott Bench curls.

Tricep Pushdowns.
Close grip machine bench press.

Pulley wrist curls - Both directions.

Machine sit-ups.

A co-worker says he will come in to train with me but I doubt it.    ;D  My German sucks. Even though that is a large part of my heritage I could never learn to speak it as my family stopped when they came to America because as my father said, they came here to be Americans, not Germans in America.
I made sure my two sons speak English too...with a Scottish accent  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on October 02, 2014, 03:03:01 AM
I made sure my two sons speak English too...with a Scottish accent  ;D

Aye, laddie!   ;D  Time for me to get on the road to the gym and then work.  Have a good day, Donny!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 02, 2014, 03:04:14 AM
Aye, laddie!   ;D  Time for me to get on the road to the gym and then work.  Have a good day, Donny!

you too Scotty  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 02, 2014, 07:28:29 AM
BACK/ABS/BI'S

FRONT PULLDOWNS 150/185..12-10 REPS HI TO LO
REVERSE /UNDERHANDED BENT OVER ROWS 135-225 12-10 REPS
PULLEY LOW CABLE ROWS....180/210
CHINS X3 SETS 10-12
SINGLE ARM CABLE ROWS PULLED FROM BOTTOM UP TO CHEST 'HITS UPPER BACK EDGES'

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3

BI'S
SEATED CURL MACHINE 110-140
SINGLE ARM CABLE CURLS X3
CURLS PREMADE BAR 80 LB SUPPERSETTED HAMMERS 35/40/40

ABS
5 SETS CRUNCH MACHINE 30 REPS EACH..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on October 02, 2014, 07:34:57 AM
tonight will be a break from the gym.....just rest and watch the Thursday night game.


Friday night will be quads.


leg press
squats
leg extensions

4 sets a piece.


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 02, 2014, 07:54:14 AM
tonight will be a break from the gym.....just rest and watch the Thursday night game.


Friday night will be quads.


leg press
squats
leg extensions

4 sets a piece.

WILD
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Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 02, 2014, 10:03:19 AM
will do shoulders later..

Tri set:
Front raises 4 sets
Side raises 4 sets
Rear delt machine 4 sets

One Arm DB press 4 sets(just using one Bell swapping Arms)
Close grip BB upright rows 4 sets

 finish off with some Abs. Will go straight for a run on the streets after about 45 mins.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 02, 2014, 10:04:46 AM
will do shoulders later..

Tri set:
Front raises 4 sets
Side raises 4 sets
Rear delt machine 4 sets

One Arm DB press 4 sets(just using one Bell swapping Arms)
Close grip BB upright rows 4 sets

 finish off with some Abs. Will go straight for a run on the streets after about 45 mins.
NICE..I HAVE DELTS TOO..AT HOME ,I HAVE ENOUGH TO GET IT DONE ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 02, 2014, 10:06:05 AM
I like now itīs Dark early and cool outside. I love the cool evening air. I donīt like to run on Busy streets i like it when itīs Dark and quite. i have my peace. so i better get my arse in gear. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 02, 2014, 10:07:52 AM
NICE..I HAVE DELTS TOO..AT HOME ,I HAVE ENOUGH TO GET IT DONE ...
I donīt go crazy weight wise on Delts...One arm DB press with a Hammer neutral grip i like.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 02, 2014, 12:07:49 PM
Lot's of great routines posted lately. Good work all of you.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 02, 2014, 07:31:06 PM
delts/calves home...

donny's workout

triset side laterals/rears/front raise w curl bar x4

shoulder press single arm dbells x2

uprights x3 cable

side rear cable x2

traps
supersets fr/rear/side 10 reps per x3

2 sets pushups 20/30

calves single leg calf raises 12 reps per x4...

few new pics ,staying tight ,but eating a bit more,no major bulk planned lol..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on October 03, 2014, 07:44:27 AM
Rest today and the usual Doctor visit later on in the early afternoon.   ;D

I can "feel" Fall coming in the early morning air (I am usually up at 1:30 a.m. or so, Left Coast Time).  I suppose I am in what one could call (and Sinatra did) the September of my life.

And now its October.  ;D 

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 03, 2014, 02:40:56 PM
Up at 1.30am Scotty ? When do you train?  So I trained arms at home today. German holiday today.   
Pull-over and press 3 sets
BB skull crushers 3sets
dB kickbacks 3 sets

Close grip chins 3xmax
Incline dB curls 3 sets
Concentration curls 3sets

Crunches / leg raises 3xmax supersets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on October 03, 2014, 03:04:22 PM
Up at 1.30am Scotty ? When do you train?  So I trained arms at home today. German holiday today.   
Pull-over and press 3 sets
BB skull crushers 3sets
dB kickbacks 3 sets

Close grip chins 3xmax
Incline dB curls 3 sets
Concentration curls 3sets

Crunches / leg raises 3xmax supersets

I'm usually at the gym sometime between 3:30 and 4:15 a.m.  I don't really sleep all that well, usually 1.5 to maybe 2 hours a night.  Sometimes more and usually not less.  I supposedly have sleep apnea (waiting to be tested) and according to my family members I just stop breathing for up to a minute and half at a time.  Once I wake up that's pretty much it for me and I just stay away.   ;D

I mostly listen to music but will also watch a movie and read a magazine.  I like to be at the gym early because there's usually no one there to laugh at my pathetic weights!  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 03, 2014, 03:15:26 PM
Remember you wrote with jay about it. Must be hard finding energy to train at times.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on October 03, 2014, 04:13:18 PM
Remember you wrote with jay about it. Must be hard finding energy to train at times.

It can be.  After over twenty years of it I suppose I am used to it.  I live on caffeine.  I've stopped the caffeine entirely and still don't sleep.  Once the sleep apnea is officially diagnosed I might be able to afford the dorkalyzer  ;D breathing machine and sleep. 

That's my hope and I'm stickin' to it!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on October 03, 2014, 07:38:17 PM
had a change of heart......decided to include hams with quads......the workout turned out to look like this:

leg press  4 sets

squats  3 sets

leg extensions  4 sets


lying leg curls  4 sets

unilateral leg curls 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 03, 2014, 10:11:00 PM
It can be.  After over twenty years of it I suppose I am used to it.  I live on caffeine.  I've stopped the caffeine entirely and still don't sleep.  Once the sleep apnea is officially diagnosed I might be able to afford the dorkalyzer  ;D breathing machine and sleep. 

That's my hope and I'm stickin' to it!  ;D ;D

Have you gone to a sleep center and had the sleep test?

My wife has sleep apnea. She submitted to a sleep study which confirmed it. Unfortunately, she cannot stand wearing the face piece and so she doesn't use the equipment. Her doctor gave up asking her about it and so did I. She nods off throughout the day, which probably makes up for the disrupted sleep at night.

Her catching her breath used to keep me awake. I started wearing ear plugs so I wouldn't hear her. These days, I am able to simply tune it out. Of course the bad thing in one can die from this condition. If she died in her sleep, I probably wouldn't know it until the next morning.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on October 04, 2014, 10:37:29 AM
Have you gone to a sleep center and had the sleep test?

My wife has sleep apnea. She submitted to a sleep study which confirmed it. Unfortunately, she cannot stand wearing the face piece and so she doesn't use the equipment. Her doctor gave up asking her about it and so did I. She nods off throughout the day, which probably makes up for the disrupted sleep at night.

Her catching her breath used to keep me awake. I started wearing ear plugs so I wouldn't hear her. These days, I am able to simply tune it out. Of course the bad thing in one can die from this condition. If she died in her sleep, I probably wouldn't know it until the next morning.

I will be tested next month.   Wife of my youngest brother is an ICU nurse and she said I should have no problem failing the test as she watched me sleep one night when I visited them.  I stop breathing a lot.  Oh well.  It could be worse.  My wife recorded my breathing last night and she played it back for me this morning.  It sounded like liquid over boulders and the reason is I am bleeding internally again and when I am lying down it can come up if it pools in my stomach/throat.  It is what it is which is life as I have come to know it.  There are a great many people that are worse off than I.

I will be fine.  If not, I will find out the truth or the lie of my beliefs.  I just won't be able to tell any of you, dammit!  ;D 

No training today but eating well.  A half pound of sliced roast beef and four hardboiled eggs were my breakfast along with water and some vitamins. 

Be well, my friend!  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 05, 2014, 06:32:11 AM
well today is a Quite Sunday as normal.. will go for a run later.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on October 05, 2014, 07:50:06 AM
well today is a Quite Sunday as normal.. will go for a run later.
Same here.  Except I can't run... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on October 05, 2014, 08:15:30 AM
chest and bis:


hammer wide grip presses  4 sets

decline barbell presses  4 sets

incline flyes  4 sets

standing ez bar curls  4 sets

seated db curls  3 sets

flat head machine curls  3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 05, 2014, 07:43:16 PM
legs

leg press worked from 4 plates 5/6/7 plates x2 ...
hack squat 3/4/5 plates 10 rep sets
walking lunges x2 80 lb bar on back
extensions sets 12 220/235/250

hams and calves tri set
lying leg curls 140/145/155 with 70 lb dbell stiff legged and seated calf raises ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 06, 2014, 03:48:44 AM
Good work MEN:::: Today i was reading one of my old Books from Vince gironda and was looking at High pulls for upper back/delts/traps. Some do Power High pulls from the floor or Boxes and even sumo style. I think they are a very good power lift. A good change from Upright rows. I do them trom a hang position like Gironda showed although i donīt lift so high as in his picture. I know Rich has a good Base on Power moves as he includes them in his routines.
http://bodybuilding-mauritius.blogspot.de/2013/03/the-iron-guru-series-gironda-shoulder.html
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 06, 2014, 04:01:00 AM
excuse the Guy on this video.. the Girl i could watch all Day doing them.  :P :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 06, 2014, 07:20:51 AM
There are a lot of causes of sleep apnea but I believe the number one reason is being over weight. I know a small percentage of sufferers are not. My wife when she gets heavy has horrible snoring and gaps in her breathing like she was holding her breath under water. Years ago when she was doing steady cardio it completely went away. I see most snorers are over weight.

I see the problems it causes. She can fall asleep in seconds any where. She always complains how hard it is to drive at night because she is tired. If she sits still without a computer or talking she will fall asleep. I believe she is exhausted from sleep apnea. I know a guy I use to work with had the same thing. If he sat still for 30 seconds he would fall asleep. When he did he would snore like hell and gasp for breath.

I know I get it when I drink to much alcohol. Most people who have it don't even realize how it's effecting their health because it's just part of who they are. If they only knew how much better they would feel mentally and physically after getting a week of deep sleep.  Am not a doctor but it would seem to me the first course of action would be to lose weight through cardio and diet.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 06, 2014, 07:41:37 AM
so i will hit chest tonight.

Decline BB press 3 sets or Parallel bar dips
Flat or Decline Flys 3 sets
Incline BB press 3 sets
Incline DB flys 3 sets

push ups to finish off 1 or 2 sets max. Cardio i will go on the Bike 30-45 mins.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2014, 02:15:16 PM
There are a lot of causes of sleep apnea but I believe the number one reason is being over weight. I know a small percentage of sufferers are not. My wife when she gets heavy has horrible snoring and gaps in her breathing like she was holding her breath under water. Years ago when she was doing steady cardio it completely went away. I see most snorers are over weight.

I see the problems it causes. She can fall asleep in seconds any where. She always complains how hard it is to drive at night because she is tired. If she sits still without a computer or talking she will fall asleep. I believe she is exhausted from sleep apnea. I know a guy I use to work with had the same thing. If he sat still for 30 seconds he would fall asleep. When he did he would snore like hell and gasp for breath.

I know I get it when I drink to much alcohol. Most people who have it don't even realize how it's effecting their health because it's just part of who they are. If they only knew how much better they would feel mentally and physically after getting a week of deep sleep.  Am not a doctor but it would seem to me the first course of action would be to lose weight through cardio and diet.

I snore. It is because I am a mouth breather as a result of having a deviated septum for much of my life. I had it repaired when I was in my late twenties. Unfortunately, it returned. I doubt I have sleep apnea, not only am I not heavy, I don't have any fat on my chin or neck area.

At the moment, I am probably snoring more than usual since I am still getting over bronchial pneumonia. The bouts of coughing are getting less frequent, so it is probably getting better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 06, 2014, 05:14:43 PM
Good work MEN:::: Today i was reading one of my old Books from Vince gironda and was looking at High pulls for upper back/delts/traps. Some do Power High pulls from the floor or Boxes and even sumo style. I think they are a very good power lift. A good change from Upright rows. I do them trom a hang position like Gironda showed although i donīt lift so high as in his picture. I know Rich has a good Base on Power moves as he includes them in his routines.
http://bodybuilding-mauritius.blogspot.de/2013/03/the-iron-guru-series-gironda-shoulder.html

Olympic lifter high pulls are an excellent movement especially for bodybuilders who don't want to bother to learn an Olympic lift. I'm not sure if Vince is doing something different but calling it a high pull. An olympic high pull has never been thought of as a shoulder exercise but as a major power exercise. It hits the legs and the so called posterior chain really hard.

 In my twenties I rarely did a snatch or a clean.  I was years removed from sprinting in college. I power bodybuild and I never ran anymore. In my routine I always did high pulls for sets of 4 reps in my back routine. I would take a clean grip. The bar on the floor. I would break contact with the floor then explode upright as fast as I could. I would do the correct technique of pulling with straight arms. I don't recall if I used a hook grip or straps but I want to say straps. Doing Olympic high pulls is like jumping with weights.

The lift gave me power and speed. I remember there was a cops vs firemen Olympics and they had a 60 yard dash. I was years removed from running. Between the squats and the high pulls I knew I had a lot of spring in my steps. In the prelims I destroyed my field easily.  In the finals I thought I would win again easily. The wammy was in. A fire man in the lane next to me ran into me leaving his lane to jam my start so his fellow fire man could win the race. Scum bag move but that's life. Now I'm as slow as a turtle.   ;D

 I really attributed my speed to the high pulls back then. It gives you all of the attributes of the clean without the racking of the weight.

On a side note the Olympic lifters back in the day didn't use the squat clean and the squat snatch method. They all used the split method. After the high pull they would do a fast split lunge to rack the weight or fix the snatch over head. While the squat method is clearly the most efficient way to lift the most amount of weight I really believe the split method pays better athletic dividends. It would take too much typing right now but I really believe it. When I used the split method I would always alternate the lead leg so it always was an even amount of reps of two or four. It really builds explosion.

Question for NJFlex. How many times a week do you hit your body parts?  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on October 06, 2014, 06:35:36 PM
There are a lot of causes of sleep apnea but I believe the number one reason is being over weight. I know a small percentage of sufferers are not. My wife when she gets heavy has horrible snoring and gaps in her breathing like she was holding her breath under water. Years ago when she was doing steady cardio it completely went away. I see most snorers are over weight.

I see the problems it causes. She can fall asleep in seconds any where. She always complains how hard it is to drive at night because she is tired. If she sits still without a computer or talking she will fall asleep. I believe she is exhausted from sleep apnea. I know a guy I use to work with had the same thing. If he sat still for 30 seconds he would fall asleep. When he did he would snore like hell and gasp for breath.

I know I get it when I drink to much alcohol. Most people who have it don't even realize how it's effecting their health because it's just part of who they are. If they only knew how much better they would feel mentally and physically after getting a week of deep sleep.  Am not a doctor but it would seem to me the first course of action would be to lose weight through cardio and diet.

In the last two months I've dropped 37 pounds.  I am going to keep going as I want a leaner physique in a more than likely vain effort to be attractive to my wife.   ;D  I have a fast metabolism and am getting by  on roughly 2,500 calories a day right now. Mostly meat and eggs with some carbs for energy.


Today was back and chest and the usual routine. 

Pullups  with my usual weird palms in grip.  3 sets. Set one I got 17 reps.  Set 2 went for 10 and the 3rd set I made it to 8.  Fun!
Smith Machine rows for 3 sets of 10 reps with an inconsequential weight that is sooooo light I dare not mention it here.  ;D
DB Rows for 3 sets of 5.

Machine bench press.  Set one 20 reps.  Set 2 was for 10 and set 3 I only got 8 reps.
Smith Machine Incline Bench Press - 3 sets of 10 reps each.
DB flat bench flys - 3 sets of 10 reps each.

Machine sit-ups - One set for 50 reps.

At 2 a.m. I had a single chicken breast and some iced tea.  After training I had another chicken breast and some ice water.  Lunch was 2 roast beef sandwiches and a chicken breast and leg.  All the chicken was fried!  I was raised for a while in the south.  Fried is what I grew up with and it was there in the fridge so...I ate it!

Just had a hard boiled egg and another roast beef sandwich with a 40 ounce glass of iced tea.  Might have both again in a while as I am still hungry.

Willie your chest and bi routine looks sweet!  But I must ask what are flat head machine curls?

Thanks!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 06, 2014, 07:42:55 PM
chest

fdbpress 60x15.70x10/85x8/85-65 drop
decline press x3
inc flyes 45/50/50
dips x2 x15-20
db pullovers x3 60/70/75 sets 12
peck deck x2

17 sets total a little more than usual..

tris
curl bar skull crushers supeset with rope pulldowns x3
reverse underhanded pushdowns x3
reg pushdowns x3

abs
 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 06, 2014, 07:48:40 PM
In the last two months I've dropped 37 pounds.  I am going to keep going as I want a leaner physique in a more than likely vain effort to be attractive to my wife.   ;D  I have a fast metabolism and am getting by  on roughly 2,500 calories a day right now. Mostly meat and eggs with some carbs for energy.


Today was back and chest and the usual routine. 

Pullups  with my usual weird palms in grip.  3 sets. Set one I got 17 reps.  Set 2 went for 10 and the 3rd set I made it to 8.  Fun!
Smith Machine rows for 3 sets of 10 reps with an inconsequential weight that is sooooo light I dare not mention it here.  ;D
DB Rows for 3 sets of 5.

Machine bench press.  Set one 20 reps.  Set 2 was for 10 and set 3 I only got 8 reps.
Smith Machine Incline Bench Press - 3 sets of 10 reps each.
DB flat bench flys - 3 sets of 10 reps each.

Machine sit-ups - One set for 50 reps.

At 2 a.m. I had a single chicken breast and some iced tea.  After training I had another chicken breast and some ice water.  Lunch was 2 roast beef sandwiches and a chicken breast and leg.  All the chicken was fried!  I was raised for a while in the south.  Fried is what I grew up with and it was there in the fridge so...I ate it!

Just had a hard boiled egg and another roast beef sandwich with a 40 ounce glass of iced tea.  Might have both again in a while as I am still hungry.

Willie your chest and bi routine looks sweet!  But I must ask what are flat head machine curls?

Thanks!

37 pounds in two months is fantastic! I keep trying to lose 10 to 15 and I find it nearly impossible. I try not to weigh myself to often to avoid disappointment but I have been doing cardio intervals and I feel my clothes are loose.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 06, 2014, 11:24:32 PM
chest

fdbpress 60x15.70x10/85x8/85-65 drop
decline press x3
inc flyes 45/50/50
dips x2 x15-20
db pullovers x3 60/70/75 sets 12
peck deck x2

17 sets total a little more than usual..

tris
curl bar skull crushers supeset with rope pulldowns x3
reverse underhanded pushdowns x3
reg pushdowns x3

abs
 
I did some Decline Flys last night with the Decline Press. nice change from flat Flys.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on October 07, 2014, 08:48:08 AM
finished my last chest set this morning with a high-rep set at the Pec-Deck-Butterfly......i did not count the reps in total when iīm working out....when i feel fatique starts, i think...."just 5 more,...than do another 4,....and so on...". (taped today to count the whole reps of that set.....did 52 with 101kg/222 lbs......think not bad ::) for someone over 50 years who remember "Arnolds last Mr. Olympia win in Sydney... ;)" (Training since 1980...)

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 07, 2014, 08:59:04 AM
finished my last chest set this morning with a high-rep set at the Pec-Deck-Butterfly......i did not count the reps in total when iīm working out....when i feel fatique starts, i think...."just 5 more,...than do another 4,....and so on...". (taped today to count the whole reps of that set.....did 52 with 101kg/222 lbs......think not bad ::) for someone over 50 years who remember "Arnolds last Mr. Olympia win in Sydney... ;)" (Training since 1980...)


looking good man... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 07, 2014, 09:03:54 AM
Olympic lifter high pulls are an excellent movement especially for bodybuilders who don't want to bother to learn an Olympic lift. I'm not sure if Vince is doing something different but calling it a high pull. An olympic high pull has never been thought of as a shoulder exercise but as a major power exercise. It hits the legs and the so called posterior chain really hard.

 In my twenties I rarely did a snatch or a clean.  I was years removed from sprinting in college. I power bodybuild and I never ran anymore. In my routine I always did high pulls for sets of 4 reps in my back routine. I would take a clean grip. The bar on the floor. I would break contact with the floor then explode upright as fast as I could. I would do the correct technique of pulling with straight arms. I don't recall if I used a hook grip or straps but I want to say straps. Doing Olympic high pulls is like jumping with weights.

The lift gave me power and speed. I remember there was a cops vs firemen Olympics and they had a 60 yard dash. I was years removed from running. Between the squats and the high pulls I knew I had a lot of spring in my steps. In the prelims I destroyed my field easily.  In the finals I thought I would win again easily. The wammy was in. A fire man in the lane next to me ran into me leaving his lane to jam my start so his fellow fire man could win the race. Scum bag move but that's life. Now I'm as slow as a turtle.   ;D

 I really attributed my speed to the high pulls back then. It gives you all of the attributes of the clean without the racking of the weight.

On a side note the Olympic lifters back in the day didn't use the squat clean and the squat snatch method. They all used the split method. After the high pull they would do a fast split lunge to rack the weight or fix the snatch over head. While the squat method is clearly the most efficient way to lift the most amount of weight I really believe the split method pays better athletic dividends. It would take too much typing right now but I really believe it. When I used the split method I would always alternate the lead leg so it always was an even amount of reps of two or four. It really builds explosion.

Question for NJFlex. How many times a week do you hit your body parts?  
I like the effect on my upper back and traps mainly. i do them more like Gironda showed. which is his own variation. you are our authority on Olympic lifts. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 07, 2014, 05:27:08 PM
I like the effect on my upper back and traps mainly. i do them more like Gironda showed. which is his own variation. you are our authority on Olympic lifts. ;D

Very far from being an expert on Olympic lifts. Hope you said that with a smile and not a smirk. LOL.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 08, 2014, 04:30:08 AM
Very far from being an expert on Olympic lifts. Hope you said that with a smile and not a smirk. LOL.
with a smile.. no bad intentions Rich ..  so i trained Back today.

Wide Grip pulldowns to front 4 sets
close grip pull downs3 sets
One arm Dumbbell Rows 4 sets
close grip upright rows 3 sets
Lower back worked last night with legs.

Seated calf raises 5 sets, crosstrainer 30 mins.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 08, 2014, 05:09:04 AM
with a smile.. no bad intentions Rich ..  so i trained Back today.

Wide Grip pulldowns to front 4 sets
close grip pull downs3 sets
One arm Dumbbell Rows 4 sets
close grip upright rows 3 sets
Lower back worked last night with legs.

Seated calf raises 5 sets, crosstrainer 30 mins.
my kinda workout  8).. :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 08, 2014, 05:19:32 AM
my kinda workout  8).. :D
Great Minds think alike Big Stevo... ;D moderate volume is enough for me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 08, 2014, 07:37:31 PM
back

chins wide x2 inner grip x2 set 12..
tbar row standing chest to pad 2 plates,2 plate and 25 x2 set 10
low cable pully row x3 180/195/205 sets 10
behind neck pulls x3
db rows x2 80/90's
seated row machine again pad to chest seat low pulls to mid to  uperr back x2

17 sets total..great pump

weighted hypers

bi's
supersetted curls with hammers .75 with 35 lb db hammers.
85 and same 35's
95 and same
seated curl machine x3
2 sets db curls standing 35/35
seated concetration curls hammer grip 30's x2

abs

workout took 1 hr i moved quick less rest..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 09, 2014, 04:07:29 AM
back

chins wide x2 inner grip x2 set 12..
tbar row standing chest to pad 2 plates,2 plate and 25 x2 set 10
low cable pully row x3 180/195/205 sets 10
behind neck pulls x3
db rows x2 80/90's
seated row machine again pad to chest seat low pulls to mid to  uperr back x2

17 sets total..great pump

weighted hypers

bi's
supersetted curls with hammers .75 with 35 lb db hammers.
85 and same 35's
95 and same
seated curl machine x3
2 sets db curls standing 35/35
seated concetration curls hammer grip 30's x2

abs

workout took 1 hr i moved quick less rest..
good Drills, Hammer curls iīve not done for a while.. do you ever do Zottman Curls Steve?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 09, 2014, 04:13:10 AM
vince shows how...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 09, 2014, 05:51:56 AM
vince shows how...

NO NEVER ,SEEN THEM NEVER KNEW NAME OF THEM,,LOOKS TOUGH..GIRONDA WAS A KOOKING LOOKING GUY AS HE GOT OLDER,LOOKED GREAT AS YOUNGER MAN INTO 50'S..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 09, 2014, 06:47:09 AM
I think i did it maybe 70% correct untill i saw that video. Explains and shows it much better than in his Book...still i like reverse curls more with or without a preacher bench.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on October 09, 2014, 07:02:51 AM
bis/tris/calves/traps:

standing ez bar curls  4 sets

seated db curls 4 sets

flat head machine curls 4 sets

rope pushdowns  4 sets

assisted dips 4 sets

overhead rope extensions  4 sets

seated calf raises  5 sets

hammer strength shrugs  4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 09, 2014, 07:17:50 AM
I think i did it maybe 70% correct untill i saw that video. Explains and shows it much better than in his Book...still i like reverse curls more with or without a preacher bench.
got to remember those...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 09, 2014, 07:34:06 AM
bis/tris/calves/traps:

standing ez bar curls  4 sets

seated db curls 4 sets

flat head machine curls 4 sets

rope pushdowns  4 sets

assisted dips 4 sets

overhead rope extensions  4 sets

seated calf raises  5 sets

hammer strength shrugs  4 sets

Do you do the Tricep exercises in that order? nice exercise selection.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 09, 2014, 08:50:22 AM
bis/tris/calves/traps:

standing ez bar curls  4 sets

seated db curls 4 sets

flat head machine curls 4 sets

rope pushdowns  4 sets

assisted dips 4 sets

overhead rope extensions  4 sets

seated calf raises  5 sets

hammer strength shrugs  4 sets


I LIKE THIS ONE HMMMMM...NEED TO GET ARMS TOGETHER,I LIKE THE CALVES/TRAPS SMALLER BODY PARTS DONE TOO..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 09, 2014, 08:59:35 AM

I LIKE THIS ONE HMMMMM...NEED TO GET ARMS TOGETHER,I LIKE THE CALVES/TRAPS SMALLER BODY PARTS DONE TOO..
I truly believe there is a "flow" with certain muscle groups.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on October 09, 2014, 10:50:43 AM
Do you do the Tricep exercises in that order? nice exercise selection.
yes......rope first to warm the elbows.....then assisted dips......finishing with one arm rope extensions overhead.


reps are 10 or so......maybe 2 mins rest in between sets.


I can finish arms in 40 mins.......calves 15 mins and traps 10 mins.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 09, 2014, 07:35:11 PM
I did this today. Chest and arms. No warm ups listed.

Flat bench press 2 x 6 then 1 x 1
Incline bar press 2 x 6
Flat flies  2 x 10
Push ups 2 x max (one set regular and one set with perfect push up bars)

ez bar curls 2 x 10
straight bar pulley curls 2 x 10 (feels great because there is resistance throughout.)
concentration curls 2 x 10

weighted dips 2 x 8 (my bars are movable. Felt I had them too close.)
typical pulley tricep pushdowns 2 x 10
Single dumbbell two arm tricep extensions seated. (two hands on one dumbbell leaning against a reverse scott bench) 2 x 10

forearm wrist curls 2 x 20
reverse forearm extensions 2 x 15

weighted crunches feet up on a bench 1 x 50 ( I hold a plate behind my head)
Pulley crunches 2 x 30


Ivanko grippers 2 x 20

Took one hour and twenty five minutes. Going very close to failure so I took my time between sets.

Right shoulder is shot but it held up to the weight I was using that is a lot lower than I used 5 years ago.  Trying to do the best with what I have. Going to use a MacDonald bar to stretch out my shoulder. Don't know if it will be bad or good for it. My instinct tells me my shoulders are tight so it might be a good exercise to do. Just going to do 2 of 3 reps to stretch the painful tight shoulders.


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 10, 2014, 12:02:56 AM
yes......rope first to warm the elbows.....then assisted dips......finishing with one arm rope extensions overhead.


reps are 10 or so......maybe 2 mins rest in between sets.


I can finish arms in 40 mins.......calves 15 mins and traps 10 mins.
Gottcha.. ;D good work.
I did this today. Chest and arms. No warm ups listed.

Flat bench press 2 x 6 then 1 x 1
Incline bar press 2 x 6
Flat flies  2 x 10
Push ups 2 x max (one set regular and one set with perfect push up bars)

ez bar curls 2 x 10
straight bar pulley curls 2 x 10 (feels great because there is resistance throughout.)
concentration curls 2 x 10

weighted dips 2 x 8 (my bars are movable. Felt I had them to close.)
typical pulley tricep pushdowns 2 x 10
Single dumbbell two arm tricep extensions seated. (two hands on one dumbbell leaning against a reverse scott bench) 2 x 10

forearm wrist curls 2 x 20
reverse forearm extensions 2 x 15

weighted crunches feet up on a bench 1 x 50 ( I hold a plate behind my head)
Pulley crunches 2 x 30


Ivanko grippers 2 x 20

Took one hour and twenty five minutes. Going very close to failure so I took my time between sets.

Right shoulder is shot but it held up to the weight I was using that is a lot lower than I used 5 years ago.  Trying to do the best with what I have. Going to use a MacDonald bar to stretch out my shoulder. Don't know if it will be bad or good for it. My instinct tells me my shoulders are tight so it might be a good exercise to do. Just going to do 2 of 3 reps to stretch the painful tight shoulders.



When i had a slight shoulder problem i stuck to Dumbbells. Rotating my hands slightly inwards did the trick. Still..trial and error, hope the Bar works :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 10, 2014, 07:35:30 AM
Donny, if I had any brains I wouldn't be using a bar for any type of benching. I still have this delusional thought that I should have a good bench because that's all anyone ever cares about when it comes to lifting. Maybe I will come to my senses and just use dumbbells.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 10, 2014, 07:55:07 AM
Donny, if I had any brains I wouldn't be using a bar for any type of benching. I still have this delusional thought that I should have a good bench because that's all anyone ever cares about when it comes to lifting. Maybe I will come to my senses and just use dumbbells.
Rich you are one of the most intelligent old school Bodybuilders on here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 10, 2014, 09:13:31 AM
back to heavier leg training,, after summer and doing more supersetting which i like too,, but i like training with some bigger poundages on them,they lose size if i don't keep squatting or leg presses on the heavier side and lower reps 6-10 zone.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 10, 2014, 07:35:35 PM
I trained legs today. No warm ups listed.

Leg press 2 x 12 (kept back board low so I could really sink the depth. I go really deep with the leg bend)
squats 2 x 9 the 1 x 1 (not happy about the depth I used. I will go deeper next time)
machine squats 1 x 10( tuff stuff machine. Has a feel between hacks and squats. Went as low as I could. Complete bend of legs)
leg extension 2 x 20
seated leg curl 2x 15
standing leg curl 2 x 10

Single dumbbell side bend 1 x 15
hanging leg raise 2 x max
pulley crunches 2 x 30 (sit the opposite way in a lat machine pulldown. Use a V bar held behind head and crunch down then extend completely.)

leg press calf raise 2 x 20
standing calf 1 x 15
seated calf 2 x 15
tibialis anterior 1 x 20 (look at picture. works the opposing muscle to the calf. Great for injury prevention when running. Helps keeps foot plant stable)

Neck work 1 x 20 (neck curl, neck extension, side, and rotation. To work my neck I use a helmet similar to the picture. Mine isn't as nice)

Feel like I'm coming down with a virus. Noticed a sore throat and a run down feeling during work out. Used a whey isolate protein drink after the work out. Haven't used a protein powder in years. I've read a lot of stuff on both sides of the fence about needing extra protein. I guess I got the itch to use it again. Felt like old times drinking that crap after a workout.  :)

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 11, 2014, 05:11:26 PM
leg day..

leg press...4 plates x12/5 x12.6x10.7x10
squats close stance 225x12.275 x10.315/315 x10
lunges standing still leg foward/leg back 10 reps per leg x2 135 lbs
leg extensions...220/235/245 sets 12

hams
sldl dbells,,65/75/85
lying leg curls 140/155/160/165

calves
setaed calf raise x3 sets 12-15 worked up to 3 plates and 25
standing calf raise x3 200 on stack sets 12
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 11, 2014, 09:03:13 PM
leg day..

leg press...4 plates x12/5 x12.6x10.7x10
squats close stance 225x12.275 x10.315/315 x10
lunges standing still leg foward/leg back 10 reps per leg x2 135 lbs
leg extensions...220/235/245 sets 12

hams
sldl dbells,,65/75/85
lying leg curls 140/155/160/165

calves
setaed calf raise x3 sets 12-15 worked up to 3 plates and 25
standing calf raise x3 200 on stack sets 12

Do you find it physically taxing to work both quads and hams in the same day? Your quad routine suggests you are focusing on the outer sweep and the tear drop area just above the knee. How do you feel about working calves heavy verses working lighter with more sets and reps? My calves suck. Whatever I've done has not been very successful at filling them out. With regards to calves, you can call me a Dennis Wolf clone. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 11, 2014, 10:29:05 PM
I don't know why I work my calves other than function. They are tiny and will always be that way.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 12, 2014, 01:26:58 AM
Later Today i have the Mother in Law coming so i think i will go swimming  ;D She is very loud and really penetrates my head.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 12, 2014, 10:47:21 AM
Do you find it physically taxing to work both quads and hams in the same day? Your quad routine suggests you are focusing on the outer sweep and the tear drop area just above the knee. How do you feel about working calves heavy verses working lighter with more sets and reps? My calves suck. Whatever I've done has not been very successful at filling them out. With regards to calves, you can call me a Dennis Wolf clone. ;D
yes,,at time i focus teardrops/sweeps more ,,felt that's what made my legs standout

hams..i like doing it with leg day,,even tho back day also works well...i get enough hams on the 8 sets plus lunges every week..
and no i have alot of energy strenght every workout,,my weights/reps rarely ever vary,,its full blast ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 12, 2014, 11:12:22 AM
well didnīt go swimming, went for a run instead. A mans gotta do what a mans gotta do ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 13, 2014, 07:48:51 AM
Today i did chest...

Parallel Bar Dips 4xmax Superset with
push ups 4xmax

Incline Flys 4x10.12 Pre-exhaust with
Incline Barbell press 4x6-8. Did these in the smith machine because i was on my own.

Seated calf raises 5 sets, crunches with Ab roller. no cardio today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 13, 2014, 07:53:22 AM
Today i did chest...

Parallel Bar Dips 4xmax Superset with
push ups 4xmax

Incline Flys 4x10.12 Pre-exhaust with
Incline Barbell press 4x6-8. Did these in the smith machine because i was on my own.

Seated calf raises 5 sets, crunches with Ab roller. no cardio today.

smith is great for chest work...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 13, 2014, 07:56:56 AM
smith is great for chest work...
Iīm not really a big fan but I trained fairly early and the people who were in the Gym were not who i would trust spotting me...if you know what i mean. evenings are much better lot of younger guys training with the free weights who know the score.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 13, 2014, 01:18:19 PM
Smith machine can be dangerous. Loaded heavy if not bolted to the ground they can tip over. I remember reading about a guy who broke his back like that. I don't understand it though. I have used an unbolted smith for squats and never felt at anytime it was going to tip.  

Another danger with smith machines is when they are used for benching. I know they have safety stops but what happens too some is that they get stuck with the bar on the chest and they can't twist the bar to catch the hook. They need to push it another couple of inches upward but they can't.

I trained back and delts today. No warm ups listed.

Chins 2 x max (went from dead hang to getting the elbows all the way down.)
Low V grip seated cable row 2 x 12
Single dumbbell row with knee on bench 2 x 10
Reverse grip pulldowns 2 x 10

Military press 2 x 8 (I cleaned the weight to begin)
dumbbell laterals 2 x 10
Single arm pulley laterals with a D handle 1x10
Rear Dumbbell delt raise 2 x 10

Deadlift 2 x 4 then 1 x 1
barbell shrugs 2 x 10
Weighted hyper extension 2 x 12

Weighted floor crunches 1 x 52
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 13, 2014, 06:59:12 PM
chest
fast paced set to set limited rest..
started decline,,4 sets
fdb press rotate palms in at top to face each other ,,65/70/75 till failure drop to 60
dips 25lb hanging then set 35 lb ,,last set bodyweight.reps 12-15
incline flyes x3 40-50's
db pullovers...x3 60-75's

tris
pushdowns x4
seated padded extension x3
close grip smith x3
single arm cable rope out/downs x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 14, 2014, 05:21:40 AM
Smith machine can be dangerous. Loaded heavy if not bolted to the ground they can tip over. I remember reading about a guy who broke his back like that. I don't understand it though. I have used an unbolted smith for squats and never felt at anytime it was going to tip.  

Another danger with smith machines is when they are used for benching. I know they have safety stops but what happens too some is that they get stuck with the bar on the chest and they can't twist the bar to catch the hook. They need to push it another couple of inches upward but they can't.

I trained back and delts today. No warm ups listed.

Chins 2 x max (went from dead hang to getting the elbows all the way down.)
Low V grip seated cable row 2 x 12
Single dumbbell row with knee on bench 2 x 10
Reverse grip pulldowns 2 x 10

Military press 2 x 8 (I cleaned the weight to begin)
dumbbell laterals 2 x 10
Single arm pulley laterals with a D handle 1x10
Rear Dumbbell delt raise 2 x 10

Deadlift 2 x 4 then 1 x 1
barbell shrugs 2 x 10
Weighted hyper extension 2 x 12

Weighted floor crunches 1 x 52
Talking of the smith machine. Not long ago after work i was doing some cardio on the Crosser. We have a Big guy who comes in and uses the full stack on most machines. He is not fat or anything just big and strong from nature. he loaded the smith machine with as many 20kg plates as possible and did like a small mini squat then decided to do like mini calf raises... I was laughing so much i nearly had to stop my cardio.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on October 14, 2014, 09:15:22 AM
the smith machine is great for doing incline presses and using the stops.......so you come to a dead stop and then press......dead stop and then press......absolutely sensational pump afterward!


I notice a big difference with using the dead stops on the smith machine..... compared to just regular pressing.


I also use a bench that will adjust down to 30 degrees.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 14, 2014, 09:24:57 AM
the smith machine is great for doing incline presses and using the stops.......so you come to a dead stop and then press......dead stop and then press......absolutely sensational pump afterward!


I notice a big difference with using the dead stops on the smith machine..... compared to just regular pressing.


I also use a bench that will adjust down to 30 degrees.
30 degrees is spot on.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on October 14, 2014, 09:27:36 AM
30 degrees is spot on.
yes sir!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 14, 2014, 09:35:17 AM
the smith machine is great for doing incline presses and using the stops.......so you come to a dead stop and then press......dead stop and then press......absolutely sensational pump afterward!


I notice a big difference with using the dead stops on the smith machine..... compared to just regular pressing.


I also use a bench that will adjust down to 30 degrees.
THANX LEE  ;).. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 14, 2014, 09:39:01 AM
Talking of the smith machine. Not long ago after work i was doing some cardio on the Crosser. We have a Big guy who comes in and uses the full stack on most machines. He is not fat or anything just big and strong from nature. he loaded the smith machine with as many 20kg plates as possible and did like a small mini squat then decided to do like mini calf raises... I was laughing so much i nearly had to stop my cardio.

I've seen a few really big dudes at the gym, some fat and some more muscular, who do mini movements.  They even do them on the hammer back machines, sometimes one side at a time. I don't get it. These are fellows who've been working out for a long time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 14, 2014, 09:42:49 AM
the smith machine is great for doing incline presses and using the stops.......so you come to a dead stop and then press......dead stop and then press......absolutely sensational pump afterward!


I notice a big difference with using the dead stops on the smith machine..... compared to just regular pressing.


I also use a bench that will adjust down to 30 degrees.

I've never tried these. Sometimes I keep my movements deliberately slow, concentrating on form. -Guess this is different. I have used the smith for both incline and decline bench presses with good success.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on October 14, 2014, 10:41:50 AM
THANX LEE  ;).. ;D
you are more than welcome......lol

 ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 15, 2014, 12:32:11 AM
Legs last night ..
Warm up on bike 20 mins.

Squats 4 sets
Leg curls 4 sets
Leg press 4 sets
Stiff legged deads 4 sets
Standing calf raises(smith machine) 5 sets

Ab: Crunch machine 3 sets. Very basic workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 15, 2014, 04:51:01 AM
Legs last night ..
Warm up on bike 20 mins.

Squats 4 sets
Leg curls 4 sets
Leg press 4 sets
Stiff legged deads 4 sets
Standing calf raises(smith machine) 5 sets

Ab: Crunch machine 3 sets. Very basic workout.
GREAT WORKOUT...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 15, 2014, 05:00:47 AM
GREAT WORKOUT...
Thanks Buddy... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 15, 2014, 05:03:27 AM
Thanks Buddy... ;D
AFTER A WORKOUT YOUE LEGS ARE LIKE JELLY AND SORENESS NEXT 2 DAYS IS BORDERLINE 'TORTURE TO EXILERATION'OR IN BETWEEN PAIN AND PLEASURE..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 15, 2014, 05:20:12 AM
Today is a running cardio day after taking a week off of cardio. It's going to hurt.  :-[
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 15, 2014, 06:30:24 AM
Today is a running cardio day after taking a week off of cardio. It's going to hurt.  :-[
Take it like a Man... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on October 15, 2014, 03:11:35 PM
pic at 63 years and 2 months,  trying to cut down from 190 to 175 lbs...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 15, 2014, 03:22:41 PM
pic at 63 years and 2 months,  trying to cut down from 190 to 175 lbs...

Solid arms! There are clearly no fake barbell plates in your private gym ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on October 15, 2014, 03:29:12 PM
Solid arms! There are clearly no fake barbell plates in your private gym ;)
nope all real
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 15, 2014, 04:47:24 PM
Funk, you look really solid. Fantastic shape at that age or any age.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 15, 2014, 05:00:17 PM
pic at 63 years and 2 months,  trying to cut down from 190 to 175 lbs...

You look good in that photo. I understand wanting to slim down though. I've dropped 23 pounds in the past several months. This morning when I weighed 182 lbs. I was thinking 175 lbs. might be perfect. My whole adult life up until recently, I wanted to be big in the way that some folks always want what they don't have. To be honest, I think I was more fat than muscled when I weighed around 210 - 220 lbs. even though I liked to believe I look big and muscular.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 15, 2014, 07:34:43 PM
pic at 63 years and 2 months,  trying to cut down from 190 to 175 lbs...
8)..nice funk did not know u were that age,,,awesome ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 15, 2014, 07:40:22 PM
back/bi/abs home..

behind neck pulldowns x4
db rows done together x3
bar pulldowns to waist x3
upper back rows wide bar cable x3
single arm cable pulldowns x3

bis
db curls x3
hammer curls x3
curl bar curls mid point x3

abs,,

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 16, 2014, 12:26:04 AM
pic at 63 years and 2 months,  trying to cut down from 190 to 175 lbs...
Looking great Funky Bro...Long walks with your Husky will soon get you trim.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 16, 2014, 12:35:55 AM
Last night i did Back too steve.

wide grip pulldowns to front 4 sets
Close grip Pulldowns 3 sets
Barbell Undergrip Rows 4 sets (not used this grip for a while)
Barbell pullovers 3 sets

Cardio, 15 mins Bike,15 mins crosser,10 mins rowing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 17, 2014, 08:40:29 AM
I will train arms later.

close grip chins 3 sets
Incline DB curls 3 sets
concentration curls 3 sets

Lying extensions 3 sets
Incline extensions3 sets
Cable kickbacks 3 sets

will go for a run outside straight after.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 17, 2014, 09:23:10 AM
DELTS,,,

DID A PUMP/GIANT SETS WORKOUT KILLER..4X..

DID THESE IN ORDER
FRONT PRESS 135/DELT RAISE 30/UPRIGHT PREMADE BAR 60/REAR BENT DELT RAISE 30LB DBELL

SET 2
FR PRESS 145...DELT RAISE 30/UPRIGHT 70/REAR RAISE 35

SET 3
155/30/80/35

SET 4
165 WITH DROP TO 135...30/80/35

THREW IN 2 SETS THEY LOOK LIKE ANGEL WINGS WHEN U DO THEM ,,DUMBELLS BEHIND BACK PALMS FACING FOWARD AND RAISE ARMS

SHRUGS
225/275/275/275

REVERSE SHRUGS ON  LYING HAMMER CHEST PRESS WORKS GREAT X3 3 PLATES/3.5/4

CALVES
TOES IN/OUT/STRAIGHT X4 24 REP SETS ..GREAT PUMP

FORARMS
WRIST CURLS REVERSE/BEHIND BACK/AND GOOSE FLEX WRIST CURL ON CABLE HANDLE UP TOP


SEEMS LIKE A LOT CLOCKED IN ABOUT 1:10 ON WORKOUT..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 17, 2014, 09:30:04 AM
DELTS,,,

DID A PUMP/GIANT SETS WORKOUT KILLER..4X..

DID THESE IN ORDER
FRONT PRESS 135/DELT RAISE 30/UPRIGHT PREMADE BAR 60/REAR BENT DELT RAISE 30LB DBELL

SET 2
FR PRESS 145...DELT RAISE 30/UPRIGHT 70/REAR RAISE 35

SET 3
155/30/80/35

SET 4
165 WITH DROP TO 135...30/80/35

THREW IN 2 SETS THEY LOOK LIKE ANGEL WINGS WHEN U DO THEM ,,DUMBELLS BEHIND BACK PALMS FACING FOWARD AND RAISE ARMS

SHRUGS
225/275/275/275

REVERSE SHRUGS ON  LYING HAMMER CHEST PRESS WORKS GREAT X3 3 PLATES/3.5/4

CALVES
TOES IN/OUT/STRAIGHT X4 24 REP SETS ..GREAT PUMP

FORARMS
WRIST CURLS REVERSE/BEHIND BACK/AND GOOSE FLEX WRIST CURL ON CABLE HANDLE UP TOP


SEEMS LIKE A LOT CLOCKED IN ABOUT 1:10 ON WORKOUT..
Perfect,,,Giant sets are perfect for shoulders.  i like doing tri sets just working front side back raises..3/4 sets then start pressing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 17, 2014, 09:35:17 AM
Perfect,,,Giant sets are perfect for shoulders.  i like doing tri sets just working front side back raises..3/4 sets then start pressing.
YEAH SICK PUMP,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 17, 2014, 05:46:53 PM
I trained the whole body today. Did my typical total body routine but the weights used were moderate. I changed my dipping bars from the ones I usually use to the ones collecting dust in a corner of my basement. I had these dip attachments since I was 17.  Just determined they are the perfect width and felt great. A great find of gold that was covered in dust.

Power cleans 3 x 3 then 1 x 1

squats 2 x 9 then 2 x 1 (did my best to sink them. I went deep.)
lunges 1 x 8
standing leg curl 2  x 15

dumbbell bench 2 x 8 (really went as low as I could)

pull ups 2 x max
seated rows with V bar 2 x 12

Dumbbell shoulder press 2 x 10
seated dumbbell laterals 2 x 10

ez bar curls 2 x 10
weighted dips 2 x 10

Hanging leg raises 2 x max
seated ab pulley crunches 2 x 30

Seated calf raises 2 x 15
tibial anterior curls 1 x 20

Weighted hyper extensions 2 x 15

Neck work.

Ate lunch then went on a two mile fast walk just for some easy cardio.

I really like doing the whole body on one day. It's brutal but once it's done you can take one to three days or more and you're going in a positive direction. The workout took me a hour and forty five minutes. I won't lift again for two days. Tomorrow hopefully will be an intense interval cardio session.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 18, 2014, 02:45:37 AM
I trained the whole body today. Did my typical total body routine but the weights used were moderate. I changed my dipping bars from the ones I usually use to the ones collecting dust in a corner of my basement. I had these dip attachments since I was 17.  Just determined they are the perfect width and felt great. A great find of gold that was covered in dust.

Power cleans 3 x 3 then 1 x 1

squats 2 x 9 then 2 x 1 (did my best to sink them. I went deep.)
lunges 1 x 8
standing leg curl 2  x 15

dumbbell bench 2 x 8 (really went as low as I could)

pull ups 2 x max
seated rows with V bar 2 x 12

Dumbbell shoulder press 2 x 10
seated dumbbell laterals 2 x 10

ez bar curls 2 x 10
weighted dips 2 x 10

Hanging leg raises 2 x max
seated ab pulley crunches 2 x 30

Seated calf raises 2 x 15
tibial anterior curls 1 x 20

Weighted hyper extensions 2 x 15

Neck work.

Ate lunch then went on a two mile fast walk just for some easy cardio.

I really like doing the whole body on one day. It's brutal but once it's done you can take one to three days or more and you're going in a positive direction. The workout took me a hour and forty five minutes. I won't lift again for two days. Tomorrow hopefully will be an intense interval cardio session.
full body is good to do now and again. just got to get the volume and duration right. I always started with: Chest
                  Back
                  legs
                  shouders
                  arms
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 18, 2014, 03:53:39 AM
My order of exercises is influenced by Arthur Jones and Mike Mentzer. Both said the proper order for a full body workout is the start with the biggest hardest exercises and work down to the smallest. The only change I do is to not do two pressing exercises back to back. That's why I do chest before lats so I won't be doing a chest press and a shoulder press back to back.

When Mentzer won the Mr. America he was doing a full body routine. His order was legs, back, chest, shoulder, tricep, bicep and abs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 18, 2014, 05:20:13 AM
My order of exercises is influenced by Arthur Jones and Mike Mentzer. Both said the proper order for a full body workout is the start with the biggest hardest exercises and work down to the smallest. The only change I do is to not do two pressing exercises back to back. That's why I do chest before lats so I won't be doing a chest press and a shoulder press back to back.

When Mentzer won the Mr. America he was doing a full body routine. His order was legs, back, chest, shoulder, tricep, bicep and abs.
yes most did recommend this order i know this. Intrestingly enough Steve Reeves worked shoulders First then chest. Not logical for most but he believed in a wide look with great Delts saying train Delts first while you are full of energy. His order of exercise:

Deltoids
Pectorals
Lats
Biceps
Triceps
Quads
Hamstrings
calves
lower back
Abdominals
Neck
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 18, 2014, 04:50:26 PM
I don't think the order of exercises is that critical but for me I do agree that you should do the hardest and biggest first down to the smallest. Who could argue with Steve Reeves results when he deviated from what I just stated?

There are so many ways to get results. What is optimal? I think the older I get the more I believe the best way to train is the way that works for you that is in direct conflict with scientific reason. It was Jeff Everson who was an elite power lifter, Olympic lifter, bodybuilder and field athlete in track and field said, "Until pigs learn to fly you don't have to be a scientist to be a bodybuilder." He said he has been around some of the best bodybuilders in the world and some couldn't tell you what they did in yesterday's workout let alone what they ate for lunch that day. He also countered that some of the most "scientific" trainers couldn't hold the jock strap of some champs that just walked into a gym and winged it. Let's face it. No matter how complicated some exercise physiologists, Kinesiologists, and one week personal trainer certificate holders make out lifting weights to be it's just picking up stuff and putting it down.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 18, 2014, 10:46:21 PM
I don't think the order of exercises is that critical but for me I do agree that you should do the hardest and biggest first down to the smallest. Who could argue with Steve Reeves results when he deviated from what I just stated?

There are so many ways to get results. What is optimal? I think the older I get the more I believe the best way to train is the way that works for you that is in direct conflict with scientific reason. It was Jeff Everson who was an elite power lifter, Olympic lifter, bodybuilder and field athlete in track and field said, "Until pigs learn to fly you don't have to be a scientist to be a bodybuilder." He said he has been around some of the best bodybuilders in the world and some couldn't tell you what they did in yesterday's workout let alone what they ate for lunch that day. He also countered that some of the most "scientific" trainers couldn't hold the jock strap of some champs that just walked into a gym and winged it. Let's face it. No matter how complicated some exercise physiologists, Kinesiologists, and one week personal trainer certificate holders make out lifting weights to be it's just picking up stuff and putting it down.

I agree. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

Personally, I like to do warm up exercises and a warm up set before I hit a movement hard. For example when working quads, I'll do leg extensions as my first exercise to get my knees functioning good. My first set of leg presses is higher reps and lower weight. Then I'll either increase the weight and lower the reps until I max out or I will pyramid and finish off with another high rep lower weight set.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 19, 2014, 01:38:41 AM
I don't think the order of exercises is that critical but for me I do agree that you should do the hardest and biggest first down to the smallest. Who could argue with Steve Reeves results when he deviated from what I just stated?

There are so many ways to get results. What is optimal? I think the older I get the more I believe the best way to train is the way that works for you that is in direct conflict with scientific reason. It was Jeff Everson who was an elite power lifter, Olympic lifter, bodybuilder and field athlete in track and field said, "Until pigs learn to fly you don't have to be a scientist to be a bodybuilder." He said he has been around some of the best bodybuilders in the world and some couldn't tell you what they did in yesterday's workout let alone what they ate for lunch that day. He also countered that some of the most "scientific" trainers couldn't hold the jock strap of some champs that just walked into a gym and winged it. Let's face it. No matter how complicated some exercise physiologists, Kinesiologists, and one week personal trainer certificate holders make out lifting weights to be it's just picking up stuff and putting it down.


this is true. Keep it simple. Remember when we all started training? looking at the pics of Reeves,Park... you just worked on a few exercises from basic routines of the time. Mainly full body or upper/lower. Point is you mastered Basics first. I get guys coming in with routines that are way too advanced for them. 6 day routines with way too much volume. Some of these guys can not chin.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 19, 2014, 07:01:02 AM
well another Lazy Sunday... will go out for a Run later on. A bit windy today so iīll wrap up well. When iīm back iīll hit some Abs at Home.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 19, 2014, 05:11:30 PM
My stone age dipping bar set up. It worked back in the day and it will work today. Giving up cardio for awhile to get some strength back. I just got too skinny lately.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 19, 2014, 05:35:20 PM
We started the day with breakfast at the Original Pancake House. It is an iconic restaurant here in Portland. We waited 45 minutes to get seated and they don't take reservations. My wife always forgets how busy this place is and I didn't feel like arguing with her about going there today, Sunday, when the wait is the longest. I ate too many delicious Latkes, which were thin and very crispy and which I smothered in sour cream.

When we got home my daughter, her husband and I had plans to do a bunch of yard work. I started by mowing the back yard, avoiding most of the mole hills and then began trimming and raking up debris out front. I got stung by a ground wasp on the side of my head while I was trimming some ivy which didn't feel good. Altogether, we worked several hours. I took a hot shower to wash off the dirt. I feel great now, but tired.

This was my lazy Sunday, not exactly as physically taxing as a run, but better than sitting on my ass all day.  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 19, 2014, 06:21:25 PM
Prime yard work is better than sitting around the house. When I vacuum, wash and wax my two cars I feel like I've been through the ringer.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 19, 2014, 06:30:52 PM
My stone age dipping bar set up. It worked back in the day and it will work today. Giving up cardio for awhile to get some strength back. I just got too skinny lately.
nice ..jealous my basement is small tight ,i have area just enough ,,,all my time is at the gym but a few workouts here and there..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 19, 2014, 06:44:57 PM
Flex, I'm really happy to have a roughly 1500 sq. ft. basement with 9' ceilings. Since I retired my income has taken a hit and I might have to down size. I will enjoy it while I can. I hate commercial gyms lately. If I down size I might get rid of most of my equipment and that might tear out my heart.  :'(  I just might go the IronMaster route and get adjustable dumbbells and their all in one bench so I can workout on a postage stamp area.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 19, 2014, 07:31:01 PM
Flex, I'm really happy to have a roughly 1500 sq. ft. basement with 9' ceilings. Since I retired my income has taken a hit and I might have to down size. I will enjoy it while I can. I hate commercial gyms lately. If I down size I might get rid of most of my equipment and that might tear out my heart.  :'(  I just might go the IronMaster route and get adjustable dumbbells and their all in one bench so I can workout on a postage stamp area.
hang in there man,,,hold on to the passion and that set up...being in shape is your personal gift to yourself,,,people believe being older means out of shape and giving up moving on,,hell no for me,,and reading your workouts it's not an issue with u..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on October 19, 2014, 08:06:26 PM
Back from Aridzona and my self imposed exile from both Kommiefornia and here.  I took time off posting and training.  My leg brace is a welcome addition to my life and affords me the ability to walk with hardly a trace of my ineptitude.  I no longer walk like Boris Karloff's "Mummy"...

...But more like Fred Gwynne's "Herman Munster".   ;D

I have tomorrow off and will train in my garage around 3 a.m.  Looking forward to it. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 19, 2014, 09:14:42 PM
Flex, I'm really happy to have a roughly 1500 sq. ft. basement with 9' ceilings. Since I retired my income has taken a hit and I might have to down size. I will enjoy it while I can. I hate commercial gyms lately. If I down size I might get rid of most of my equipment and that might tear out my heart.  :'(  I just might go the IronMaster route and get adjustable dumbbells and their all in one bench so I can workout on a postage stamp area.

I hate reading this. So far, since retiring our income has actually improved some. However, the COLA my wife and I get each year on a guaranteed annuity is only 2%. The CPI is generally a bit higher than this, so our income is not keeping up with inflation. SSI does not keep pace with inflation either.  Downsizing is not something we want to do.

Indirectly, I guess we are downsizing anyway. Rather than move to a smaller place, we are sharing our over-sized (for just my wife and me) abode with our daughter, her husband and our grandson. They pay us a sizable rent. In exchange I am financing an expensive remodel designed to create a better separation of space, more privacy for all of us, some other upgrades and maintenance items. Eventually, this house will be theirs anyway when my wife and I pass on.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 20, 2014, 02:32:36 AM
hang in there man,,,hold on to the passion and that set up...being in shape is your personal gift to yourself,,,people believe being older means out of shape and giving up moving on,,hell no for me,,and reading your workouts it's not an issue with u..
yes good post steve... you have some great kit there.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 20, 2014, 06:13:25 AM
I hate reading this. So far, since retiring our income has actually improved some. However, the COLA my wife and I get each year on a guaranteed annuity is only 2%. The CPI is generally a bit higher than this, so our income is not keeping up with inflation. SSI does not keep pace with inflation either.  Downsizing is not something we want to do.

Indirectly, I guess we are downsizing anyway. Rather than move to a smaller place, we are sharing our over-sized (for just my wife and me) abode with our daughter, her husband and our grandson. They pay us a sizable rent. In exchange I am financing an expensive remodel designed to create a better separation of space, more privacy for all of us, some other upgrades and maintenance items. Eventually, this house will be theirs anyway when my wife and I pass on.

2% cola annually is amazing in my eyes. In ten years your retirement income goes up 20%? My retirement had cola but it's now gone completely. My retirement pension is really generous but I'm down close to about 50K less income than I was use too since I retired.  Savings are dwindling so in a year or two I have to seriously down size. I love my house it's a dream house for me but with crazy taxes, two heaters and two central air units it's just too expensive to stay there with two kids in college. Looking for a post retirement job is not easy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 20, 2014, 11:54:24 AM
chest today ..

DB flat press 3 sets
DB flat flys 3 sets
incline BB press 3 sets
incline DB flys 3 sets
push ups 2x max

abs: crunches 3xmax. Cardio: bike 30 mins
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on October 20, 2014, 11:59:03 AM
My stone age dipping bar set up. It worked back in the day and it will work today. Giving up cardio for awhile to get some strength back. I just got too skinny lately.
i've got something similar to that, i had it custom made in the late 70's
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on October 20, 2014, 12:00:31 PM
i've got something similar to that, i had it custom made in the late 70's
you can't see the dipping bars but they're up there
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on October 20, 2014, 12:02:24 PM
 ;D favorite bench for pressing exercises actually get a better ROM than free weights due to yolk design.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 20, 2014, 12:05:03 PM
you got a great Home Gym...Funky
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 20, 2014, 12:18:50 PM
;D favorite bench for pressing exercises actually get a better ROM than free weights due to yolk design.

I've been saying forever that the bench is a shoulder wrecker even though I bench. It's limited range of motion by arching one's back really makes for tight shoulders. A device like you have will take away the inherent flaw in the bench. Hammer strength is the same in that the bar starts the same for everyone.  Watch some people do a conventional bench press that are fat or just big while arching. They might push the bar 15 inches while another with the same weight will have to push it 23 inches off the chest. From a mathematical fact the one who pushes the weight further is doing the most amount of work. The bench is one of the poorest tests of strength.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on October 20, 2014, 12:28:34 PM
I've been saying forever that the bench is a shoulder wrecker even though I bench. It's limited range of motion by arching one's back really makes for tight shoulders. A device like you have will take away the inherent flaw in the bench. Hammer strength is the same in that the bar starts the same for everyone.  Watch some people do a conventional bench press that are fat or just big while arching. They might push the bar 15 inches while another with the same weight will have to push it 23 inches off the chest. From a mathematical fact the one who pushes the weight further is doing the most amount of work. The bench is one of the poorest tests of strength.
my kid doesn't use barbells anymore he uses all dbs and machines pretty much.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 20, 2014, 12:38:10 PM
LEGS SUNDAY  :P
HEAVY DUTY...

LEG PRESS 4/5/6/7 PLATES 12/12/10/10
HACK SQUAT 3/4/5/5.5
EXTENSIONS 220/230/240/250 SET 12/12/10/10

HAMS
SLDL 135/185/235
EXTENSIONS 140/150/155/160

CALVES
SEATED CALF RAISES X3
LEG PRESS TOE EXTENSIONS X3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 20, 2014, 12:54:54 PM
LEGS SUNDAY  :P
HEAVY DUTY...

LEG PRESS 4/5/6/7 PLATES 12/12/10/10
HACK SQUAT 3/4/5/5.5
EXTENSIONS 220/230/240/250 SET 12/12/10/10

HAMS
SLDL 135/185/235
EXTENSIONS 140/150/155/160

CALVES
SEATED CALF RAISES X3
LEG PRESS TOE EXTENSIONS X3
brutal Steve...you must feel it the next day climbing stairs !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 20, 2014, 07:50:02 PM
brutal Steve...you must feel it the next day climbing stairs !
lol yeah....

chest
fdb press..60/70/80..12/10/10/,,85 drop to 65
decline x3
incline press x3
cable crossers x3x15
barbell pullovers x3

tris
overhead cable extensions x4
dip machine x3
single arm rope pushdowns x3
close grip x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on October 20, 2014, 09:36:09 PM
Legs last night ..
Warm up on bike 20 mins.

Squats 4 sets
Leg curls 4 sets
Leg press 4 sets
Stiff legged deads 4 sets
Standing calf raises(smith machine) 5 sets

Ab: Crunch machine 3 sets. Very basic workout.
nice workout Donny!!! No nonsense......keep it up!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 21, 2014, 01:40:51 AM
nice workout Donny!!! No nonsense......keep it up!
thanks man... keep it simple. Talking of which iīm training legs at Home Today. I have not done the "Jefferson lift" for a long time. Some people class them as squats and others Deadlifts. To me itīs a Lift. Going to do 2-3 sets of these with:

leg extension 3 sets
leg curls 3 sets
Jefferson lift 3 sets
Front squats 3 sets (lighter)

Jefferson lift will hit my glutes, hams and upper quad area very well. Well all the legs really but front squats will hit lower better. I definitely feel my lower area much better with front squats. Barbell Hacks i like doing at home too- Bertil Fox did them at least in the Beginning.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 21, 2014, 01:20:15 PM
Just got in 3 whole body training days in a 7 day period. Today's session took 2 hours and I'm completely wasted.  I feel my strength coming back since I limited my cardio. Going to maintain just the lifting then slowly put the cardio back in. Training for all these charity 5K's left me a little drawn out.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 21, 2014, 04:10:44 PM
Just got in 3 whole body training days in a 7 day period. Today's session took 2 hours and I'm completely wasted.  I feel my strength coming back since I limited my cardio. Going to maintain just the lifting then slowly put the cardio back in. Training for all these charity 5K's left me a little drawn out.
itīs hard to do both i know.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 22, 2014, 04:27:52 AM
Jefferson lift worked well but Front squats are awkward. I prefer the clean grip just having my finger tips on the bar but still...itīs uncomfortable. Seriously thinking of getting one of these squat harness aids. anyone used one of these? i like the training effect from front squats.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 22, 2014, 05:16:38 AM
I have no flexibility in my wrists, elbow joint and shoulders. Doing front squats using  traditional Olympic lift form is just too painful now. I guess I could adapt if I work on it.  I think decades of benching did me in. I see women who do cross fit adapt very quickly using a clean grip for front squats. Men leaving the bodybuilding gym have the most trouble adapting.  I was always jealous of guys that could use a closed grip with front squats. I had to do what the majority of guys do and use an open hand. If it wasn't so painful I would even abandon the back squat in favor of the front squat.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 22, 2014, 05:30:31 AM
I have no flexibility in my wrists, elbow joint and shoulders. Doing front squats using  traditional Olympic lift form is just too painful now. I guess I could adapt if I work on it.  I think decades of benching did me in. I see women who do cross fit adapt very quickly using a clean grip for front squats. Men leaving the bodybuilding gym have the most trouble adapting.  I was always jealous of guys that could use a closed grip with front squats. I had to do what the majority of guys do and use an open hand. If it wasn't so painful I would even abandon the back squat in favor of the front squat.
I am the same. I have the bar on my finger tips. The training effect is really more beneficial for a bodybuilder. My quads are much better trained with front squats. A great all round workout with just a Barbell is Front squats,Back squats,Barbell Hack squats. really is a leg blaster. Steve Reeves even Had hooks on the back of his weight belt for hacks.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 22, 2014, 09:05:16 AM
I have a love/hate with front squats done em but no steady enough,,,i also like doing a set of squats or extensions then squatting against wall and sit there for 45/1 minute for tension/pump..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 22, 2014, 09:09:19 AM
I have a love/hate with front squats done em but no steady enough,,,i also like doing a set of squats or extensions then squatting against wall and sit there for 45/1 minute for tension/pump..
Used to punish us with that in the Army Steve, you have got to be one of the hardest trainers i know with quads. your upstairs lunges :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 22, 2014, 09:12:10 AM
Used to punish us with that in the Army Steve, you have got to be one of the hardest trainers i know with quads. your upstairs lunges :o
8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 22, 2014, 09:21:07 AM
Still... Cardio is important to me too. I like Richīs training too. Great feedback on here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on October 22, 2014, 11:25:43 AM
Jefferson lift worked well but Front squats are awkward. I prefer the clean grip just having my finger tips on the bar but still...itīs uncomfortable. Seriously thinking of getting one of these squat harness aids. anyone used one of these? i like the training effect from front squats.

check out dave draper's site , i believe he still sells something called the top squat.....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 22, 2014, 11:27:33 AM
check out dave draper's site , i believe he still sells something called the top squat.....
Thanks Funky
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on October 22, 2014, 11:28:39 AM
check out dave draper's site , i believe he still sells something called the top squat.....
looked it up , seems kind of expensive...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 22, 2014, 12:28:30 PM
I wonder if any of you guys consider minimalist training. What I mean is having a small home gym.  I have a pretty elaborate home gym set up but I'm really considering the minimalist road.

One can work out in a postage stamp area with something like quick adjustable dumbbells and their all in one benches with attachments. I can think of so much you can do with dumbbells, bench, chin bar and dips.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 22, 2014, 06:33:11 PM
19 sets of shoulders.

12 sets of biceps.

15 sets of triceps.

6 sets of forearms.

5 sets of situps.

One set of throwups.

It took about an hour to get through this.  If I were a man again, I would do HIT in about 12  minutes I'd be done and barfing so  hard I wouldn't be surprised to see my shoes come out of my mouth.  ;D

My joints won't stand for it though.


How can you do so many sets in just one hour?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 22, 2014, 08:04:28 PM
back attack'''

supersets in order,,,front pulldown underhand grip i used a short bar that curved in the ends hits that upper back area and outer lat then we did chins 3x3 reps shhot for 10 each but bu 3rd go around chins i was pumped got 8 barely ;D

next tbar rows chest on pad standup version with cable low rows used single hand grips done together u could pull back squeeze these,3x3

rope pulldown standing pull to waist and open rope at lower portion x3

finished 2 sets underhanded bent rows 185/225

weighted hypers x3

bi's
cable curls inner grip x4
db curls x3
seated concentration curls hammer grip x3

abs 5 sets 30 reps per set
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 23, 2014, 07:16:26 AM
shoulder Home Gym workout Today.

tri set:

Front raises 3 sets
Side raises 3 sets
Rear delt raises lying on bench 3 sets

Barbell military press 3 sets
upright rows 3 sets

The last 2 exercises i supersetted. Abs: crunches. later i will go for a run on the streets. A lot cooler now so perfect for me. wrap up well so i get a good sweat on. Got myself reflectors for my arms. donīt care if i look dumb. Itīs still busy at 7 pm and not all drivers pay attention. I had a close call one time a few years ago. I nearly chinned the guy in the car. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 23, 2014, 08:19:57 AM
shoulder Home Gym workout Today.

tri set:

Front raises 3 sets
Side raises 3 sets
Rear delt raises lying on bench 3 sets

Barbell military press 3 sets
upright rows 3 sets

The last 2 exercises i supersetted. Abs: crunches. later i will go for a run on the streets. A lot cooler now so perfect for me. wrap up well so i get a good sweat on. Got myself reflectors for my arms. donīt care if i look dumb. Itīs still busy at 7 pm and not all drivers pay attention. I had a close call one time a few years ago. I nearly chinned the guy in the car. ;D
nice...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 23, 2014, 10:45:54 AM
Donny get yourself a head lamp and a reflectorized vest before a car makes you road kill. I don't run at night but if circumstances forced me to I will use a treadmill or use safety gear outside.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 23, 2014, 02:21:06 PM
It's been pouring rain here for the past two days. There is flooding in low areas. Just now there was big crack of thunder. The dogs are going nuts. We had a nice long hot summer. Summer is over now. So much for the kid's out trick or treating on Halloween. The weather seems uncooperative every year at Halloween.

The landscape guy isn't starting the dogs area until mid-November. It's a bit of a mud hole and a lake right now.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 24, 2014, 02:04:25 AM
Donny get yourself a head lamp and a reflectorized vest before a car makes you road kill. I don't run at night but if circumstances forced me to I will use a treadmill or use safety gear outside.
i have a vest.. somewhere. will need to get another. I run mainly on foot paths anyway but a couple of road areas or junctions i run over. Most have lights of course but some donīt.  One thing i donīt do is listen to music when running. I think in a busy area itīs dangerous. Running in the woods is diffrent.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 24, 2014, 06:49:21 AM
arms later.

Close grip chins 3xmax
Incline DB curls 3 sets
Spider curls 3 sets

Incline BB extensions 3 sets
Lying DB extensions 3 sets
Cable kickbacks 3 sets

Forearms: Reverse ez bar curls on preacher bench. 3 sets. Seated calf raises 5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on October 24, 2014, 06:59:17 AM
Yesterday was back and chest along with abs.

Since I got 19 reps on pull ups the last time I did them I added 10 pounds to my bodyweight and got 11 on the first set.  The next two I made it to 8 and 5.  Palms facing in and about twenty or so inches apart which is about 1.5 Heaths in diameter according to my official GetBig measuring tape.  ;D

Smith Machine Rows for 5 sets of 20 down to 5 reps.
DB Rows for 3 sets of 5 reps.

Smith Machine Incline Bench Presses for 6 sets of 10 down to 3 reps.
Machine Bench Press for 3 sets of 20 down to 3 reps.
Flat Bench Flys done as the Oak did them so very long ago for 3 sets of 10 reps.

Machine Sit Ups for 5 sets of 30 down to 10 reps.

Today is doctor day.  I still got up "early" at 3:30 am.  I have to go look at a new Dodge Ram as I now own a Mustang and it is very difficult to get in and out of due to my stoooopid leg.  ;D

If all goes well with the doc I will try to train tomorrow.  Be well gentlemen.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 24, 2014, 07:18:32 AM
Yesterday was back and chest along with abs.

Since I got 19 reps on pull ups the last time I did them I added 10 pounds to my bodyweight and got 11 on the first set.  The next two I made it to 8 and 5.  Palms facing in and about twenty or so inches apart which is about 1.5 Heaths in diameter according to my official GetBig measuring tape.  ;D

Smith Machine Rows for 5 sets of 20 down to 5 reps.
DB Rows for 3 sets of 5 reps.

Smith Machine Incline Bench Presses for 6 sets of 10 down to 3 reps.
Machine Bench Press for 3 sets of 20 down to 3 reps.
Flat Bench Flys done as the Oak did them so very long ago for 3 sets of 10 reps.

Machine Sit Ups for 5 sets of 30 down to 10 reps.

Today is doctor day.  I still got up "early" at 3:30 am.  I have to go look at a new Dodge Ram as I now own a Mustang and it is very difficult to get in and out of due to my stoooopid leg.  ;D

If all goes well with the doc I will try to train tomorrow.  Be well gentlemen.
Nice Scotty. Look after yourself  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 24, 2014, 05:19:19 PM
delts ..

db press x4 worked up to 65's
lateral raise machine 'change up'x4 worked up to 100 on stack dropped to 60 for drop set
cable uprights x3
front raise x3 curl bar premade 60/60/70
reverse peck dech rear delt x4

shrugs on chest 'hammer press'2plates up to 5 per side
2 sets db to sides 85/95


forarms
wrist cable curls reverse x3
rollups with rope up/down/up x3
reverse behind back wrist curls cable x3

calves 5 sets standing calf raises 160/220 reps 15-12 hi to lowest..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 25, 2014, 08:40:35 AM
Anyone here get pre workout anxiety? I'm trying to regain some strength so every workout I'm trying to beat my last. I know it's a bad strategy trying to go up linear but I'm trying to regain strength lost and that is usually easier except for the age factor. 

Here I go. Going to do my pre workout ritual of putting on the radio and Olympic lifting shoes. Chalk up the hands and warm up with 135lbs power cleans. Uggg. So stiff at this age. Once I'm sweating I'll be hitting it hard. Just so hard to start. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on October 25, 2014, 08:49:25 AM
Minimalist upper body workout this morning:

3 sets of DB laterals.
3 sets BB (empty 10 lb. bar!) shoulder presses.

3 sets close grip pull downs.
3 sets upright machine bench press.

3 sets alternate DB curls.
3 sets tricep pushdowns.
1 set close grip upright machine bench press.

That's all folks!   ;D


And yes, I get upset that I am no longer the man I was as little as three years ago, let alone a couple of decades.  I cannot do any real weight in shoulder presses with a bar.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 25, 2014, 11:07:31 AM
Anyone here get pre workout anxiety? I'm trying to regain some strength so every workout I'm trying to beat my last. I know it's a bad strategy trying to go up linear but I'm trying to regain strength lost and that is usually easier except for the age factor. 

Here I go. Going to do my pre workout ritual of putting on the radio and Olympic lifting shoes. Chalk up the hands and warm up with 135lbs power cleans. Uggg. So stiff at this age. Once I'm sweating I'll be hitting it hard. Just so hard to start. 
I feel better after a few basic stretches.
Minimalist upper body workout this morning:

3 sets of DB laterals.
3 sets BB (empty 10 lb. bar!) shoulder presses.

3 sets close grip pull downs.
3 sets upright machine bench press.

3 sets alternate DB curls.
3 sets tricep pushdowns.
1 set close grip upright machine bench press.

That's all folks!   ;D


And yes, I get upset that I am no longer the man I was as little as three years ago, let alone a couple of decades.  I cannot do any real weight in shoulder presses with a bar.
I think with chest press and back work youīll be fine. db laterals will be enough. No training for me today but i will tomorrow. Clocks go back an hour here tonight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 25, 2014, 05:08:51 PM
Anyone here get pre workout anxiety? I'm trying to regain some strength so every workout I'm trying to beat my last. I know it's a bad strategy trying to go up linear but I'm trying to regain strength lost and that is usually easier except for the age factor. 

Here I go. Going to do my pre workout ritual of putting on the radio and Olympic lifting shoes. Chalk up the hands and warm up with 135lbs power cleans. Uggg. So stiff at this age. Once I'm sweating I'll be hitting it hard. Just so hard to start. 

I've not experienced pre-workout anxiety. This is probably because I am not as intense about working out as you seem to be. Is it possible that you are to fixated on what you once were able to do as opposed to doing the best you can now and cutting yourself some slack.

Don't lose sight of the main purpose of working out is for good health. Setting goals is great, just make sure they are realistic for your situation and age. If you can do this, I believe rather than being anxious about working out, you will look forward to hitting the weights.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 26, 2014, 05:37:33 AM
I've not experienced pre-workout anxiety. This is probably because I am not as intense about working out as you seem to be. Is it possible that you are to fixated on what you once were able to do as opposed to doing the best you can now and cutting yourself some slack.

Don't lose sight of the main purpose of working out is for good health. Setting goals is great, just make sure they are realistic for your situation and age. If you can do this, I believe rather than being anxious about working out, you will look forward to hitting the weights.
yes good advice from our wise old owl.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 26, 2014, 11:32:55 AM
Was running on the streets...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 26, 2014, 01:56:17 PM
had a great sat leg workout and dinner out with wife italian/mediteranean $$$$..

legs
 leg press worked from 3 warmup to 7 plates reps 15/10 hi/lo
hack squat 3/4/5 plates
walking lunges 80lbs on back x2
extensions 3 sets 15 reps

hams
sldl 135/185/225/245
seated leg curls 180-210

calves
leg press

dinner,,nice salad arugula and walnut with shaved parmesan reggiano..

pasta with sicilian eggplant/pesto creme sauce

dessert..affigoto basically scoop gelato 'vanilla'2 shots espresso dumped onto it..drink leftover espresso  :),,thats amore..

nice bottle mondavi caberenet,,wife had cosmopolitan too'pear one'

with tip dinner was 185.00,,for 2 thats pretty hi end in jersey for the most part..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 26, 2014, 02:31:09 PM
Perfect a great dinner after a hard lworkout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 26, 2014, 02:53:43 PM
Perfect a great dinner after a hard lworkout.
yeah,,,,i was off boards for day or so ,,nice break lol...miss it here ,,lately other places no,,posting less and less donnieboy..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 26, 2014, 06:10:52 PM
I put a leg of lamb in the oven to roast about an hour ago. Just added potatoes to brown around the meat. When it comes out to rest, I will start the grilled zucchini. Sunday dinner....easy fixing....nice leftovers.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 26, 2014, 06:14:53 PM
I've not experienced pre-workout anxiety. This is probably because I am not as intense about working out as you seem to be. Is it possible that you are to fixated on what you once were able to do as opposed to doing the best you can now and cutting yourself some slack.

Don't lose sight of the main purpose of working out is for good health. Setting goals is great, just make sure they are realistic for your situation and age. If you can do this, I believe rather than being anxious about working out, you will look forward to hitting the weights.

Good advice. Still trying to fight the good fight though.  I guess I'm as ego driven and maybe have some insecurities too like any guy who lifts to look good. It just hurts to think how I use to look, what I use to lift and how I use to get compliments on my build when that doesn't happen anymore. All I get now is an occasional you look  fit. Ugh.  

I use to use the same routines for years before changing the split and the amount of sets. Now that I'm older I change routines after 2 weeks. I use to think I just got bored. I really think what's going on is that my body just doesn't respond like it did and I think I can fix that by trying something completely different. It's all just lifting weights.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 26, 2014, 08:31:57 PM
Good advice. Still trying to fight the good fight though.  I guess I'm as ego driven and maybe have some insecurities too like any guy who lifts to look good. It just hurts to think how I use to look, what I use to lift and how I use to get compliments on my build when that doesn't happen anymore. All I get now is an occasional you look  fit. Ugh.  

I use to use the same routines for years before changing the split and the amount of sets. Now that I'm older I change routines after 2 weeks. I use to think I just got bored. I really think what's going on is that my body just doesn't respond like it did and I think I can fix that by trying something completely different. It's all just lifting weights.

I get it. Sometimes when I see at myself in the mirror, I wonder who that old fart is who is looking back at me. I've led a healthy life. My genetics are reasonably good. Folks act surprised when I tell them my age, they say they thought I was much younger. That is all well and good. Never-the-less the fellow I see in the mirror looks a lot older to me than I feel most of the time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 27, 2014, 10:08:51 AM
So today i did Chest+Back Supersets.

barbell incline Press 2 sets with
Wide grip chins  2 sets

Flat Bench flys 2 sets
Barbell Rows 2 sets

Barbell bench press 2 sets
Barbell Pullovers 2 sets

seated calf raises 3 sets

worked fast and 2 sets worked well. was a bit tired so it worked out just right  ;) Bit of stretching in their with flys and Barbell pullovers.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 27, 2014, 10:52:21 AM
So today i did Chest+Back Supersets.

barbell incline Press 2 sets with
Wide grip chins  2 sets

Flat Bench flys 2 sets
Barbell Rows 2 sets

Barbell bench press 2 sets
Barbell Pullovers 2 sets

seated calf raises 3 sets

worked fast and 2 sets worked well. was a bit tired so it worked out just right  ;) Bit of stretching in their with flys and Barbell pullovers.
8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on October 27, 2014, 07:24:41 PM
So today i did Chest+Back Supersets.

barbell incline Press 2 sets with
Wide grip chins  2 sets

Flat Bench flys 2 sets
Barbell Rows 2 sets

Barbell bench press 2 sets
Barbell Pullovers 2 sets

seated calf raises 3 sets

worked fast and 2 sets worked well. was a bit tired so it worked out just right  ;) Bit of stretching in their with flys and Barbell pullovers.
nice work!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 27, 2014, 07:37:37 PM
I change my workouts a lot lately. Donny I think you inspired me with that super set workout. I haven't done super sets in ages.

Today was just cardio for me. 8 sets of 400 meters with a 200 meter walk for the rest interval.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 27, 2014, 08:18:54 PM
chest

fdb press 60/75/80/85
decline press x3
inc flyes 40/50/55
db pullovers 60-75 x3
pec deck x3

tris
pushdowns x4
overhead rope extensions x3
dip machine x3
reverse grip pushdowns x3

abs
x4
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 28, 2014, 01:47:08 AM
I change my workouts a lot lately. Donny I think you inspired me with that super set workout. I haven't done super sets in ages.

Today was just cardio for me. 8 sets of 400 meters with a 200 meter walk for the rest interval.
I think your Cardio was enough ;D I like working chest+back together. Most people i know do a push/pull or shoulders/back..legs.. chest arms workout.  3 Day splits have went out of Fashion but are good for recovery. Going to a 3 day split for a while is not a step back because you can still workout hard but with more rest.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 28, 2014, 04:09:18 AM
A bit of Golden age Motivation for your workout today... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on October 28, 2014, 09:01:56 AM
chest and bis:


hammer wide grip   4 sets

decline barbell  4 sets

incline flyes   4 sets

standing db curls  4 sets

db preacher  4 sets

hammer rope curls  3 sets

GO GIANTS!!!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 28, 2014, 09:14:17 AM
chest and bis:


hammer wide grip   4 sets

decline barbell  4 sets

incline flyes   4 sets

standing db curls  4 sets

db preacher  4 sets

hammer rope curls  3 sets

GO GIANTS!!!!!
  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 28, 2014, 09:40:36 AM
chest and bis:


hammer wide grip   4 sets

decline barbell  4 sets

incline flyes   4 sets

standing db curls  4 sets

db preacher  4 sets

hammer rope curls  3 sets

GO GIANTS!!!!!
NICE  8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 28, 2014, 11:07:02 AM
Was running and did some abs on the floor. Just doing different exercises and some lower back stretches.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 28, 2014, 06:07:05 PM
Was running and did some abs on the floor. Just doing different exercises and some lower back stretches.

Since losing weight recently, I noticed my stomach is a lot smaller. Unfortunately, there is a little loose skin there now. Hope it tightens up some....it isn't pretty. Not sure exercise will help this. Been applying coconut oil to my belly skin to see if that makes a difference.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on October 28, 2014, 07:39:53 PM
Yesterday sucked.  I tried and got through 8 total sets between back and chest.  Tried for some intensity for immensity!   ;D

Ah well... Today I knocked out 16 sets of shoulders followed by 11 set   for biceptuals and 15 for triceptuals.  10 sets of alternating DB curls followed by one set of curls with non-Weider arm blaster with a straight (no homo) bar with a massive 40 lbs on it.  If only I had used a Weider bar, I would've quintupled the weight!

10 sets of tricep pushdowns and then  5 sets of close grip machine bench presses.  At roughly 6 feet tall (sometimes I like to say, 5' 11 and 15/16ths inches!)  I weighed in a 187 the other morning.  My body fat is just that - FAT.  The device I use to measure it still says I am 20%.

I am beginning to think the only cure for my problem is more cowbell.  Or something.  Train on gentlemen!

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on October 28, 2014, 08:21:30 PM
delts and calves:


hammer strength presses  4 sets


db laterals  4 sets


reverse pec deck  4 sets

db shrugs    4 sets


seated calf raises   6 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 29, 2014, 07:11:45 AM
Did a home gym leg workout today.

Front squats 3 sets
Leg curls 3 sets
Leg extensions 3 sets
Stiff deads 3 sets
step ups on Bench holding Dbs 3 sets
Standing one legged calf raises with DB 3 sets

No cardio today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 29, 2014, 11:16:57 AM
Yesterday sucked.  I tried and got through 8 total sets between back and chest.  Tried for some intensity for immensity!   ;D

Ah well... Today I knocked out 16 sets of shoulders followed by 11 set   for biceptuals and 15 for triceptuals.  10 sets of alternating DB curls followed by one set of curls with non-Weider arm blaster with a straight (no homo) bar with a massive 40 lbs on it.  If only I had used a Weider bar, I would've quintupled the weight!

10 sets of tricep pushdowns and then  5 sets of close grip machine bench presses.  At roughly 6 feet tall (sometimes I like to say, 5' 11 and 15/16ths inches!)  I weighed in a 187 the other morning.  My body fat is just that - FAT.  The device I use to measure it still says I am 20%.

I am beginning to think the only cure for my problem is more cowbell.  Or something.  Train on gentlemen!



Maybe there is something amiss with your fat measuring device. It is hard to believe you could be at 20% fat at that weight and height.

I weigh 184 lbs. and am currently only a little over 5'9 1/2". I once was just shy of 6' but old age and spinal disk compression has shrunk me. Although I have not measured my fat lately, when I was 30 or so pounds heavier, I had it measured and it was 12%. There is really nowhere on my body today that you can pinch more than an inch, as they say.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 29, 2014, 12:15:45 PM
Yesterday was back and chest along with abs.

Since I got 19 reps on pull ups the last time I did them I added 10 pounds to my bodyweight and got 11 on the first set.  The next two I made it to 8 and 5.  Palms facing in and about twenty or so inches apart which is about 1.5 Heaths in diameter according to my official GetBig measuring tape.  ;D

Smith Machine Rows for 5 sets of 20 down to 5 reps.
DB Rows for 3 sets of 5 reps.

Smith Machine Incline Bench Presses for 6 sets of 10 down to 3 reps.
Machine Bench Press for 3 sets of 20 down to 3 reps.
Flat Bench Flys done as the Oak did them so very long ago for 3 sets of 10 reps.

Machine Sit Ups for 5 sets of 30 down to 10 reps.

Today is doctor day.  I still got up "early" at 3:30 am.  I have to go look at a new Dodge Ram as I now own a Mustang and it is very difficult to get in and out of due to my stoooopid leg.  ;D

If all goes well with the doc I will try to train tomorrow.  Be well gentlemen.
I donīt think Jay.. Scotty is 20% either with his Chins. A very modest man  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 30, 2014, 03:51:39 AM
Anyone know what is up with Steve? Guess he has lots on his plate work wise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 30, 2014, 05:28:59 AM
Anyone know what is up with Steve? Guess he has lots on his plate work wise.
;D..i'm around  ;)..

back
reverse grip hammer pulldowns x3 after warming with 45 eac side...got to 2 plates and few tens on side..great pump
tbar row old school wide grip x3 up to 3 plates and some change lol..
low pulley cable row,,,x3 160/180/200
standing underhanded pulldowns to waist x3
finished with side grip/close chins sets 10 x3 gassed ..

bis
seated padded scott curl machine x3
concentration curls x3 hammer grip
curls premade curl bar 70/80/80 did bottom to mid portion range wise
2 sets cable curls single arm 'like doing a front db bi pose ,cable up top

abs 5 sets crunched 25/30 reps
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 30, 2014, 05:37:06 AM
;D..i'm around  ;)..

back
reverse grip hammer pulldowns x3 after warming with 45 eac side...got to 2 plates and few tens on side..great pump
tbar row old school wide grip x3 up to 3 plates and some change lol..
low pulley cable row,,,x3 160/180/200
standing underhanded pulldowns to waist x3
finished with side grip/close chins sets 10 x3 gassed ..

bis
seated padded scott curl machine x3
concentration curls x3 hammer grip
curls premade curl bar 70/80/80 did bottom to mid portion range wise
2 sets cable curls single arm 'like doing a front db bi pose ,cable up top

abs 5 sets crunched 25/30 reps
GOOD MAN  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on October 30, 2014, 09:48:43 AM
GIANTS DID IT!!!!


HAMS AND QUADS:

LYING LEG CURLS  4 SETS

STANDING LEG CURLS  4 SETS

LEG PRESS  3 SETS

SQUATS  3 SETS

LEG EXTENSIONS  3 SETS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 30, 2014, 09:53:51 AM
GIANTS DID IT!!!!


HAMS AND QUADS:

LYING LEG CURLS  4 SETS

STANDING LEG CURLS  4 SETS

LEG PRESS  3 SETS

SQUATS  3 SETS

LEG EXTENSIONS  3 SETS
  :o nice ,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 30, 2014, 12:07:18 PM
Giant sets are advanced but i normally do them with opposite muscle groups, not supersets but for one muscle group is super intensive
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 30, 2014, 12:13:50 PM
Giant sets are advanced but i normally do them with opposite muscle groups, not supersets but for one muscle group is super intensive
I'VE DONE IT AND STILL PUSHED INSANE POUDAGES..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 30, 2014, 12:26:55 PM
I'VE DONE IT AND STILL PUSHED INSANE POUDAGES..
not a surprise..  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 30, 2014, 12:44:20 PM
not a surprise..  ;D
:)...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on October 30, 2014, 01:38:09 PM
San Francisco Giants!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 30, 2014, 07:56:16 PM
delts

fr press 135-175... 12-5 reps hi/lo
side raises drops x3 30/25/20 10 reps per,,,sick pump..
 bent over cable rear delt raise x3
cable uprights used handles instead bar x3

shrugs
135-225-275-315...20/15/12/10
rear shrugs 225/275

calves standing calf raises x5 180/240 on stack

forarms
rollups x5 supersetted with reverse cable wrist curls x3
cable behind back reverse wrist curls x3 rolll weight down hands to finger tips roll up..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on October 30, 2014, 08:20:43 PM
Maybe there is something amiss with your fat measuring device. It is hard to believe you could be at 20% fat at that weight and height.

I weigh 184 lbs. and am currently only a little over 5'9 1/2". I once was just shy of 6' but old age and spinal disk compression has shrunk me. Although I have not measured my fat lately, when I was 30 or so pounds heavier, I had it measured and it was 12%. There is really nowhere on my body today that you can pinch more than an inch, as they say.

That could well be as it is one of those electronic devices that measure your fatness via resistance to a  minor electronic pulse.  Like you, I have lost height and muscle mass over the years having been 6' 1.5" in my youth and weighed as much as 250 lbs. 

I feel fluffy.  Dammit!  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 31, 2014, 02:14:51 AM
San Francisco Giants!!!
If i ever get to the States...i will go to a cocks game  ;D Go them Cock ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on October 31, 2014, 07:21:33 AM
Trained shoulders + arms today..

Tri set...
Front raises 3 sets
side raises 3 sets
Rear delt raises 3 sets

seated DB press 3 sets
DB shrugs 3 sets
BB curls 3 sets superset with
Lying skullcrushers 3 sets
DB preacher curls 3 sets Superset with
high pulley overhead extensions 3 sets

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on October 31, 2014, 10:15:38 AM
Trained shoulders + arms today..

Tri set...
Front raises 3 sets
side raises 3 sets
Rear delt raises 3 sets

seated DB press 3 sets
DB shrugs 3 sets
BB curls 3 sets superset with
Lying skullcrushers 3 sets
DB preacher curls 3 sets Superset with
high pulley overhead extensions 3 sets


GOOD STUFF...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on October 31, 2014, 09:13:27 PM
That could well be as it is one of those electronic devices that measure your fatness via resistance to a  minor electronic pulse.  Like you, I have lost height and muscle mass over the years having been 6' 1.5" in my youth and weighed as much as 250 lbs. 

I feel fluffy.  Dammit!  ;D

I suspect a lot of folks return to their the body type they are genetically predisposed to. Both my parents were rails. I was unbelievably skinny as a kid. The only time my weight has increased is when I have been working out heavy and consistently. Whenever I've laid off the weights, I've lost weight, but then I also eat during these times too.

It is also possible that with being on HRT, it has kept me from getting fat or flabby. I have lost muscle in the last couple of years. This is directly related to the fact, I believe, that I have not been working out consistently.

It is my intention to rectify this as soon as possible. I've allowed a lot of day to day distractions to interfere with my working out. I don't see these things going away anytime soon. It looks like I need to go back to being a little bit selfish with my time, leaving more time for me and perhaps a little less for the other people in my life.

At 70 years of age, I have no delusions that I will suddenly develop a great physique, but I don't intend to let that tarnish my goals.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 01, 2014, 05:40:10 AM
I suspect a lot of folks return to their the body type they are genetically predisposed to. Both my parents were rails. I was unbelievably skinny as a kid. The only time my weight has increased is when I have been working out heavy and consistently. Whenever I've laid off the weights, I've lost weight, but then I also eat during these times too.

It is also possible that with being on HRT, it has kept me from getting fat or flabby. I have lost muscle in the last couple of years. This is directly related to the fact, I believe, that I have not been working out consistently.

It is my intention to rectify this as soon as possible. I've allowed a lot of day to day distractions to interfere with my working out. I don't see these things going away anytime soon. It looks like I need to go back to being a little bit selfish with my time, leaving more time for me and perhaps a little less for the other people in my life.

At 70 years of age, I have no delusions that I will suddenly develop a great physique, but I don't intend to let that tarnish my goals.
better than the latter jay..keep as fit as u could...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 01, 2014, 07:42:56 AM
Prime take advice from Mr Bill Pearl...about the 25 Mark he says you have to make time for yourself... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on November 01, 2014, 10:40:03 AM
DONNY......THANKS FOR THE VIDEO.......BILL PEARL IS WITHOUT A DOUBT ONE OF THE CLASSIEST GUYS AROUND!


BACK/CALVES

DB ROWS  3

REVERSE GRIP PULLDOWNS  3

HAMMER STRENGTH ROWS  3

CYBEX PULLDOWNS  3

HYPEREXTENSIONS  3

SEATED CALF RAISES  5
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on November 02, 2014, 05:45:42 AM
Today (Sunday morning) did a short Chest and Shoulder (Isolation-movements) workout.


warm-up: 12 Minutes Cardio


1. Incline dumbell press

12,5 kg  20kg  27,5 kg   35 kg   42,5 kg      50kg/110 lbs x 29 reps (1 more than last time...)
                                                                50 kg           x 23 reps (2 more than last time...)

2. Butterfly-Bodytone-seated Flys-Machine
warm-up     50kg, 80kg          + just 1 set     96 kg x 61 reps (211 lbs)   (last time 200 lbs for 67...think pretty much the same, maybe
                                                                                                         a little bit progress ? 11 lbs. more weight than last time...)

3. Front raise with a EZ-Bar
EZ-Bar (7,5 kg) + 10 kg, EZ-Bar + 20 kg, EZ-Bar + 30 kg,      EZ-Bar + 37,5 kg x 15 reps   +  same weight for 12 reps

4. side-laterals, dumbells, 1-arm style
12,5 kg  17,5 kg  22,5 kg      27,5 kg x 8/7 (right-left), 27,5 kg (60 lbs.) x 7/7
high-rep finish  17,5 kg x 30/30 reps

current bodyweight 117,5 kg/6 "2", 51 Years...started diet 2 days ago (1 pound lost, started at 260 lbs.....ok "always water in the first week").
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on November 02, 2014, 08:18:27 AM
Shoulders and arms this morning.

5 sets of 10 on DB Laterals.

5 set of 10 BB Press with only 20 pounds.  Damn that hurt.  I am beginning to think todays brofessionals do so many partial reps because their joints just hurt too damn much.  I know mine do.

5 sets of 10 reps Alternate DB curls.

5 sets of 10 reps on BB curls.

5 supersets of overheard tricep press and tricep pushdowns 10 reps each exercise.

5 sets of close grip machine bench press at 10 reps each.

As Porky Pig would say, Th Th Th That's all folks!    In a short while I will head out for a health food shoppe to get a basic multi-vitamin/mineral tablet and maybe some B12.  In the seventies I would go through Schiff's Liver Tabs like a pig through slop.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 02, 2014, 08:57:02 AM
legs

warmed with extensions,,working sets were 205/220/235/250/265 sets 12
squats shoulder spaced wide 225/315/365 /405...12/10/10/8
leg sled press 240/260/260 10/10/10

sldl dbells 60/70/80
seated leg curl 180/195/210 10/10/10

cales leg press raises x3
seated calf raise x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 02, 2014, 10:46:16 AM
Wow....you guys have been busy today. Only exercise I got today was walking a friends dog  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 02, 2014, 10:37:32 PM
Wow....you guys have been busy today. Only exercise I got today was walking a friends dog  ;D

Nice. Anytime you're available, I have four dogs you can walk. Living in the hills of West Linn, walking them here is quite the cardio workout. Just getting their collars on is something of a workout since they get so excited whenever they know they are going for a walk.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 03, 2014, 10:59:58 AM
Nice. Anytime you're available, I have four dogs you can walk. Living in the hills of West Linn, walking them here is quite the cardio workout. Just getting their collars on is something of a workout since they get so excited whenever they know they are going for a walk.
Great cardio workout .. used to love walking around a localpark as a kid with our German Shepherd..
Today i worked chest.

Decline Barbell press 4 sets
Decline flys 3 sets
incline Barbell press 4 sets
incline Flys 3 sets

Calfs on leg press 5 sets.  Cardio running outside.
Rich... i saw a guy running with the Light you spoke about. wearing it on his head.. Looked a bit weird.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 03, 2014, 11:03:48 AM
Great cardio workout .. used to love walking around a localpark as a kid with our German Shepherd..
Today i worked chest.

Decline Barbell press 4 sets
Decline flys 3 sets
incline Barbell press 4 sets
incline Flys 3 sets

Calfs on leg press 5 sets.  Cardio running outside.
Rich... i saw a guy running with the Light you spoke about. wearing it on his head.. Looked a bit weird.. ;D
NICE I'M HITTING THOSE DECLINES NOW 4-5 WKS AND PULLOVERS MAYBE A BIT LONGER..CHANGED THINGS UP FOR A BIT,,MY STRENGHT IS SO/SO ON DECLINES THEY WERE EASIER 20 YRS AGO  :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 03, 2014, 11:14:27 AM
NICE I'M HITTING THOSE DECLINES NOW 4-5 WKS AND PULLOVERS MAYBE A BIT LONGER..CHANGED THINGS UP FOR A BIT,,MY STRENGHT IS SO/SO ON DECLINES THEY WERE EASIER 20 YRS AGO  :P
we all feel like that Steve... as long as i get results and stay in shape iīm not too worried about the weight..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 03, 2014, 11:16:08 AM
we all feel like that Steve... as long as i get results and stay in shape iīm not too worried about the weight..
I AGREE ..I CAN'T BE AS STRONG PLATES WISE ON EVERYTHING LIKE BACK/LEGS WHERE THE 45'S I CAN PILE ON AND STILL REP OR MOVE CONSISTENT AND GREAT RANGE/FORM...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 03, 2014, 11:58:30 AM
well at the Hospital tomorrow morning for my pre Colonoscopy talk/check in. Get my "Clean Prep" that i drink.    Just a talk before my appointment where i Get my rear end violeted  :-[ still i gotta do it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 03, 2014, 12:06:40 PM
well at the Hospital tomorrow morning for my pre Colonoscopy talk/check in. Get my "Clean Prep" that i drink.    Just a talk before my appointment where i Get my rear end violeted  :-[ still i gotta do it.
you have a condition so that's why..as long as your managing it..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 03, 2014, 12:42:03 PM
well at the Hospital tomorrow morning for my pre Colonoscopy talk/check in. Get my "Clean Prep" that i drink.    Just a talk before my appointment where i Get my rear end violeted  :-[ still i gotta do it.

This is absolutely not may favorite procedure. The prep is the worst part though. At least when they stick the roto-rooter up my rear end, I am knocked out. I only have to do this once every five years, thank goodness.

When I went in for the pre-visit, I got turned down for the procedure because I was having an episode of atrial flutter. I explained what it was to the physician's assistant, but he acted like I didn't know what I was talking about. He told me I had to get it cleared by my primary care physician. So here I am a couple of months later, the prep kit is in the cupboard and I have yet to reschedule the colonoscopy. I'll get right on it....soon.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on November 03, 2014, 06:19:21 PM
The usual back and chest routine today but after getting 19 pull ups on my first set it was difficult to do more/  The next two sets were both maxed out at 6 reps each set.  I included 3 sets of T-Bar rows to mix  things up and also cable crossovers for my chest instead of DB flyes.  It was a good workout.

Not great, just good.  Nothing wrong with good.  Tomorrow will be shoulders and arms.  I did only one set of shrugs last time so tomorrow I will up a bit with 2 or 3 sets of DB shrugs. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 03, 2014, 06:36:08 PM
Hope everything works out okay in your test Donny.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on November 03, 2014, 06:45:48 PM
Hope everything works out okay in your test Donny.

Same here.  I've had the test procedure a few times in my life.   You are a good man deserving of a long and healthy life with those you love and who love you.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 03, 2014, 10:45:13 PM
Thanks Men... just like a talk and formalities today.. get violated on the 13th... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 04, 2014, 06:02:43 AM
chest,,adding new movements lately to change up,,recently pec/deck to finish..

fdb press 'increasing reps on heaviest set 'was kinda goal here 'lost a lot here when I pinched nerve few yrs ago'its close ..
55 warmed 15.....70/80/85..was stuck at 5 or so ..I think I hit 8/9 now,,i like to get 90/95's again..
decline press x3
inc flyes..45/50/55
pullovers dbell 65/75/80 love these again...
pec deck x3 squeeze these

tri's
trisets dip machine/seated extension/rope pushdowns x3
cable kick backs x3 to finish..

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 04, 2014, 06:19:44 AM
chest,,adding new movements lately to change up,,recently pec/deck to finish..

fdb press 'increasing reps on heaviest set 'was kinda goal here 'lost a lot here when I pinched nerve few yrs ago'its close ..
55 warmed 15.....70/80/85..was stuck at 5 or so ..I think I hit 8/9 now,,i like to get 90/95's again..
decline press x3
inc flyes..45/50/55
pullovers dbell 65/75/80 love these again...
pec deck x3 squeeze these

tri's
trisets dip machine/seated extension/rope pushdowns x3
cable kick backs x3 to finish..

abs
Nice..Workout, i remember when you had your pinched nerve. Good to see the Declines in there. Great fast forgotten move. I am going to do legs tonight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 04, 2014, 06:48:27 AM
Nice..Workout, i remember when you had your pinched nerve. Good to see the Declines in there. Great fast forgotten move. I am going to do legs tonight.
8),,,I'M STILL KINDA SORE FROM SUNDAYS LEG WORKOUT...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 04, 2014, 07:16:39 AM
8),,,I'M STILL KINDA SORE FROM SUNDAYS LEG WORKOUT...
If i do it right i will be tomorrow  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 04, 2014, 12:54:26 PM
so workout tonight was...

20 mins cycling..
I did straight sets tonight.

Squats 4 set
Seated leg curls 4 sets
Leg press 4 sets
Stiff deadlifts 4 sets

seated calf raises 5 sets. Abs: Machine crunch 3 sets with Leg raises off a flat Bench 3 sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 04, 2014, 05:00:21 PM
Yesterday I ran a hard 5 miles. I was so exhausted that my left hand was shaking bad like Parkinson's. It went away after about 20 minutes but I found it disturbing. Wife wants me to see a doc.

Today I trained chest and arms. No warm ups listed.

Bench 2 x 6 then 1 x 1 (I'm hell bent on ruining my shoulder)
Incline bar bench 2 x 6
Flat Flies 2 x 10
Push ups 2 x max

EZ bar curl 2 x 10
Straight bar pulley curls 2 x 10
Concentration curls 2 x 12

Weighted dips 2 x 6
regular tricep pushdowns 2 x 10
Single arm reverse grip holding a D handle tricep extensions 2 x 12

four arm wrist curls 2 x 20
reverse wrist extensions 2 x 15

Weighted crunch with legs on bench 1 x 50
Pulley crunches 2 x 30

Ivanko gripper 2 x 20

Took a couple hour break and ran 8 x 400 meter repeats. Left hand shook a little this time but not much.

Trying to lift every other day. I have high hopes of being to be able to have a cardio day and a lifting day. Using a three day split now. 1. chest and arms. 2. legs and finally 3. back and delts.  Trying not to be so competitive about increasing the weight and hopefully be happy with slow progression. I follow a pattern of training like a lunatic then burning my self out. Hopefully I will use a slower progression so I can keep a good cardio program. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 04, 2014, 08:29:01 PM
I had a business lunch with two fellow board members today who look really out of shape. They started talking about hitting the gym, I felt left out because....well you get it. Tomorrow, come hell or high water I am going to the gym. Nothing is going to stop me. This is ridiculous! Someone slap me upside my head.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on November 05, 2014, 05:14:44 AM
i hit the Gym yesterday....and tomorrow again....itīs like breathing air, drinking water, eating breakfast...longest breaks in more than 34 years lasted about 3 weeks (after injuries....).

Training now close to 35 years, been 51 yrs + some months young ::), 6 "2,5" inch tall :), yesterday 258 lbs. drugfree/Natural. Starting dieting down about 20-25 lbs. (i guess it takes about 12-15 weeks). Started a moderate carb (400g), high Protein-diet (300 g), medium-fat (50-70g) 5 days ago at 260 lbs.
Did a latspread "just for fun" yesterday in the middle of back training.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on November 05, 2014, 05:44:01 AM
pic taken from clip.... ::)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 05, 2014, 06:03:22 AM
pic taken from clip.... ::)
nice back..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 05, 2014, 07:12:15 AM
bring this Back....shape and symmetry. Frank Zane, Bob Paris... so going to the Gym now and this has motivated me  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 05, 2014, 07:24:26 AM
bring this Back....shape and symmetry. Frank Zane, Bob Paris... so going to the Gym now and this has motivated me  :)

THATS MY PHILOSOPHY DONNY..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on November 05, 2014, 09:13:56 AM
great video!!!!


zane and paris and Samir!!!!!


another guy that I thought looked great but does not get enough credit is ali malla.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on November 05, 2014, 03:11:02 PM
chest and traps:


pec deck   4 sets

db bench presses  4 sets

hammer wide grip presses  4 sets

hammer shrugs   4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 05, 2014, 07:58:10 PM
back

chins wide x2 inner x2
tbar row front loaded 2plates &25,3 plates/3 &25
low cable rows with wide bar x3
front pulldowns x3
cable rows bottom pull to chest level/slight bend and stretch x3

weighted hypers x3

bi's
cable curls seated x4
scott curl padded bench with dbells hammer grip x3''so so pump 'not great
db curls and some curl bar curls x3 and x3 rested 15/20 sec between so not full supeset

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 06, 2014, 05:08:48 AM
so later iīm going to do shoulders--

I think i might go for a machine workout for a change.

Machine side raises 4 sets
Rear Delt machine 4 sets
Barbell Front raise 4 sets
Machine press 4 sets
DB shrugs4 sets

Abs and cardio--- i will go on the Bike.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 06, 2014, 05:10:32 AM
great video!!!!


zane and paris and Samir!!!!!


another guy that I thought looked great but does not get enough credit is ali malla.
yes very true...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on November 06, 2014, 06:46:09 AM
back and calves:


one arm rows   3 sets

reverse grip pulldowns  3 sets

hammer seated rows  3 sets

cybex machine pulldowns  3 sets

hyperextensions   3 sets


seated calf raises  5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 06, 2014, 06:48:58 AM
back and calves:


one arm rows   3 sets

reverse grip pulldowns  3 sets

hammer seated rows  3 sets

cybex machine pulldowns  3 sets

hyperextensions   3 sets


seated calf raises  5 sets
ALL MY STAPLES RIGHT THERE,,I STILL LIKE CLASSIC BAR ROWS EVERY OTHER TRAINING CYCLE FOR BACK..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 06, 2014, 06:52:32 AM
If i could only do one Back exercise it would be Barbell Rows. a close second is one arm Dumbbell rows.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 06, 2014, 06:56:34 AM
If i could only do one Back exercise it would be Barbell Rows. a close second is one arm Dumbbell rows.
true...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 06, 2014, 07:07:55 AM
I like them old school... like Lee Haney did them..  Dorain Yates reverse grip i like but i donīt like standing so upright.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 06, 2014, 07:10:51 AM
 :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 06, 2014, 07:49:14 AM
I like them old school... like Lee Haney did them..  Dorain Yates reverse grip i like but i donīt like standing so upright.

HANEY WAS INSANE'BACK...YATES WAS INSANE 'CONTEST BACK LOOK..HERE HE IS HUGE BUT HEAVY 'GUT'...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 06, 2014, 07:18:44 PM
I haven't done barbell rows in ages. I too like the old school method. It limits the weight but I feel it's a better way to hit the muscles. The way Arnold and Haney did them is the way I do it. No, I'm not comparing myself.  :) Going to use it next back workout.

Today was legs. Yesterday I went to little Italy in NYC for some wood burning stove pizza. Just amazing. Walked around the Greenwich Village for hours hitting a few bars with the wife. Found a bar with about 30 craft beers on tap. I sampled a few. Figured I had to easily walk over 7 miles exploring the Village.

No warm ups listed.

Leg press 2 x 12 (went deep with the back board low.)

Dumbbell squats 2 x 12 (These are incredibly hard. If you try them concentrate on bending the legs fully staying mainly upright and concentrate on your butt going all the way down. If you don't you will just deadlift the weight and it won't hit the thighs as hard)

Leg extensions 2 x 20
Seated leg curls 2 x 15

Side bends with single dumbbell 1 x 15
Hanging leg raise 2 x max
Pulley crunches 2 x30

Leg press calf 2 x 20
Standing 2 x 15
anterior tibialis 1 x 20

Neck work. (I usually use a neck helmet. I strained my neck with it a couple of weeks ago. I went old school today not using the helmet and I liked it. Great pump. I folded a towel and lied on bench with my head hanging. I put 25lbs plate on my forehead over the towel and did neck curls. The hands were only used to balance the weight and not assist the lift.  

2 x 20 reps of neck curls
2 x 20 of rear neck extensions with a common neck strap.
Used hand pressure for sides.

Really getting thin from running but I really want to see how my body responds at this age reference running. The intervals are really tough but it's contributing to a lot of spring in my step when I do distance.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 06, 2014, 09:06:56 PM
Didn't make it to the gym after all. Too many reasons to explain. Instead I did 4 sets of 25 deep squats (butt to the floor) using excellent form and doing them slow and deliberate. My quads and glutes were burning up by the time I finished up. Then I did 4 sets of 25 push ups....man, am I out of condition!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 07, 2014, 01:57:42 AM
I haven't done barbell rows in ages. I too like the old school method. It limits the weight but I feel it's a better way to hit the muscles. The way Arnold and Haney did them is the way I do it. No, I'm not comparing myself.  :) Going to use it next back workout.

Today was legs. Yesterday I went to little Italy in NYC for some wood burning stove pizza. Just amazing. Walked around the Greenwich Village for hours hitting a few bars with the wife. Found a bar with about 30 craft beers on tap. I sampled a few. Figured I had to easily walk over 7 miles exploring the Village.

No warm ups listed.

Leg press 2 x 12 (went deep with the back board low.)

Dumbbell squats 2 x 12 (These are incredibly hard. If you try them concentrate on bending the legs fully staying mainly upright and concentrate on your butt going all the way down. If you don't you will just deadlift the weight and it won't hit the thighs as hard)

Leg extensions 2 x 20
Seated leg curls 2 x 15

Side bends with single dumbbell 1 x 15
Hanging leg raise 2 x max
Pulley crunches 2 x30

Leg press calf 2 x 20
Standing 2 x 15
anterior tibialis 1 x 20

Neck work. (I usually use a neck helmet. I strained my neck with it a couple of weeks ago. I went old school today not using the helmet and I liked it. Great pump. I folded a towel and lied on bench with my head hanging. I put 25lbs plate on my forehead over the towel and did neck curls. The hands were only used to balance the weight and not assist the lift.  

2 x 20 reps of neck curls
2 x 20 of rear neck extensions with a common neck strap.
Used hand pressure for sides.

Really getting thin from running but I really want to see how my body responds at this age reference running. The intervals are really tough but it's contributing to a lot of spring in my step when I do distance.
dumbbell squats i have not done in ages. work well. I like Dumbbell deadlifts too, mainly doing stiff legged ones.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 07, 2014, 08:47:34 AM
delts

dumbell press warmed...50/60/60..
laterals cables x4
front raise cable with rope pull up and open at top hands..these are good ,,
rear laterals on incline bench 20/25/25 dbells

shrugs dbells in front ,,80/90/100/105...12/12/12/12
2 sets rear shrugs  3 plates/4 plates sets 12

forarms
wrist curls cable reverse x3
reverse curls x3

calves
5 sets standing calf raises 15 to 9 lowest weight start 180/240 max

i eat a bit more in fall/winter and smooth out a bit from usual top shape'don't go overboard tho'with that i get a bit fuller and my heavier weights improve a few reps or some exercises i get a 5/10 lb increase with dumbells'like pressing for chest'or heavier squats might get 10 with 405 as oppossed to 8 or less..a lot of things vary theses things as well 'sleep/meals eated/time training am/pm/overall state of life 'stress/work'nagging wife lol,,,for me this or a few lbs more would be a slightly out of top shape for me..took this today after workout...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 07, 2014, 09:58:00 AM
Arms Today..

Close grip chins 3xmax
Incline curls 3 sets
Concentration curls 3 sets

Incline BB extensions 3 sets
Lying BB extensions 3 sets
Cable kickbacks 3 sets

standing calf raises 5 sets. Abs: Crunches 3x max superset with leg raises
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 07, 2014, 04:44:50 PM
Didn't make it to the gym after all. Too many reasons to explain. Instead I did 4 sets of 25 deep squats (butt to the floor) using excellent form and doing them slow and deliberate. My quads and glutes were burning up by the time I finished up. Then I did 4 sets of 25 push ups....man, am I out of condition!

Hearing you write about bodyweight squats reminds me of the 1975 IFBB Mr. Universe lightweight winner Wilf Sylvester. He use to do the typical barbell squats and hacks. For the 1975 Universe he did 400 body weight  squats with leg extensions and leg curls.  Needless to say he won.

Conditioning is a seldom talked about topic with bodybuilding yet it's incredibly important. They had a charity 5K by my house. The local big chain gym partially sponsored the race so they wanted to have representatives in it. Three trainers showed up in their new gym shirts.  Steroids and buff with a tan looking good they lined up at the starting line. At the end of the race I saw chubby soccer mom after soccer mom come in. Then the three trainers looking sick practically staggered in exhausted to the finish line.  I could only imagine them in a grappling or boxing match. They would be sucking air running out of gas quick. I just hope members of their gym weren't there to see out of shape they were.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 07, 2014, 08:33:40 PM
Hearing you write about bodyweight squats reminds me of the 1975 IFBB Mr. Universe lightweight winner Wilf Sylvester. He use to do the typical barbell squats and hacks. For the 1975 Universe he did 400 body weight  squats with leg extensions and leg curls.  Needless to say he won.

Conditioning is a seldom talked about topic with bodybuilding yet it's incredibly important. They had a charity 5K by my house. The local big chain gym partially sponsored the race so they wanted to have representatives in it. Three trainers showed up in their new gym shirts.  Steroids and buff with a tan looking good they lined up at the starting line. At the end of the race I saw chubby soccer mom after soccer mom come in. Then the three trainers looking sick practically staggered in exhausted to the finish line.  I could only imagine them in a grappling or boxing match. They would be sucking air running out of gas quick. I just hope members of their gym weren't there to see out of shape they were.

Here's the thing, doing body weight squats with good form is really rewarding feeling right now. My quads feel tight. It's a good feeling. If I'd tried weighted squats at the gym, I would have been sore. There's nothing wrong with this of course. It is just after this really long hiatus, I know I need to ease myself back or I'll feel like a failure.

I remind myself that most 70 year old guys don't even exercise, even those who go to the gym. I know this for sure, I've seen them at the gym.

My stomach is tighter than it has been in years. The coconut oil is a great help.

All you younger dudes (and I mean everyone who posts in this thread) keep posting your routines please. They are my inspiration. Believe it or not, you help keep this old fart fit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 08, 2014, 01:18:05 AM
Here's the thing, doing body weight squats with good form is really rewarding feeling right now. My quads feel tight. It's a good feeling. If I'd tried weighted squats at the gym, I would have been sore. There's nothing wrong with this of course. It is just after this really long hiatus, I know I need to ease myself back or I'll feel like a failure.

I remind myself that most 70 year old guys don't even exercise, even those who go to the gym. I know this for sure, I've seen them at the gym.

My stomach is tighter than it has been in years. The coconut oil is a great help.

All you younger dudes (and I mean everyone who posts in this thread) keep posting your routines please. They are my inspiration. Believe it or not, you help keep this old fart fit.
You are a sensible guy thatīs why you still can train. Free hand squats are not bad at all.. also step ups ups on a bench. i used to do Leg extensions and straight after superset style free hand squats. Was after my knee OP.. worked very well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 08, 2014, 05:41:04 AM
Here's the thing, doing body weight squats with good form is really rewarding feeling right now. My quads feel tight. It's a good feeling. If I'd tried weighted squats at the gym, I would have been sore. There's nothing wrong with this of course. It is just after this really long hiatus, I know I need to ease myself back or I'll feel like a failure.

I remind myself that most 70 year old guys don't even exercise, even those who go to the gym. I know this for sure, I've seen them at the gym.

My stomach is tighter than it has been in years. The coconut oil is a great help.

All you younger dudes (and I mean everyone who posts in this thread) keep posting your routines please. They are my inspiration. Believe it or not, you help keep this old fart fit.

The overwhelming majority of guys at 55 don't train. For you to workout at 70 is a rarity. Personally I'm always amazed when I'm at 5K races and I see guys in their 60's and over run a decent time. I know by the looks of them they specialize in running but I'm still amazed at what endurance some of these guys have.

Nothing wrong with body weight exercises and they are severely under rated by juicing bodybuilders who would be gasping for breath if they did burpees, mountain climbers or even full range push ups.

Today is back day. In general I always try to start off with a power movement. Getting sick of power cleans and jerks. I would like to try the old fashion split snatches but I'm questioning my sanity with the injury potential. I guess I have never been sane to begin with. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 08, 2014, 05:44:27 AM
Today i will just go for a gentle run.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 08, 2014, 05:56:31 AM
Today i will just go for a gentle run.

I did that yesterday. Planned a 5 mile run but cut it short at 5K.  Better to have a bad run than no run at all.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 08, 2014, 10:15:13 AM
My back and delt workout today. I chickened out on doing split snatches. My shoulders and Achilles are sore. Didn't want to take the chance of disaster.

1. Power cleans jerking the last rep over head 3 x 3 (increased the weight each set)

1.Pull ups 2 x max (full hang to getting my elbows down to my rib cage completion)
2.Seated cable lat rows with V bar 2 x 12
3.Single Dumbbell row off a bench 2 x 10
4. Barbell row standing on a block 2 x 10(haven't done these in ages. I realize why again. Seems to put the lower back in a potentially bad position for injury. Will substitute inverted body weight rows next time)

1. Military press 2 x 8 ( I cleaned the weight to begin)
2. Upright row with ez curl bar  2 x 10 (haven't done these in decades. Dumbbell delt laterals have been hurting my shoulder and so far upright rows feel okay)
3. Rear delt dumbbell laterals 2 x 10
4. Dumbbell shrugs 2 x 12 (have trouble feeling these compared to barbell shrugs. I lowered the weight used and I felt a better range of motion.)

1. Semi stiff leg deadlifts 2 x 6 ( I stood on a block to get a better range of motion. I used a light weight of 185lbs and I went slow and controlled actually touching the top of my feet with the bar for a good stretch.I stayed away from these for awhile and I'm glad they are back in my exercise rotation)
2. Weighted hyper extensions 2 x 15 (held a plate behind my head. These always felt perfect for the lower back and hamstrings.)

1. Weighted floor crunches 1 x 55 (used a plate behind my head lifting the upper body off the ground. This exercise is rarely done correctly in the gyms. Most yank on their neck never getting their upper back off the ground. Even when done correctly I'm beginning to think this is an over rated exercise.)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 08, 2014, 03:02:21 PM
You are a sensible guy thatīs why you still can train. Free hand squats are not bad at all.. also step ups ups on a bench. i used to do Leg extensions and straight after superset style free hand squats. Was after my knee OP.. worked very well.

I did 100's of body weight leg extensions to keep my knees limber following knee surgery. When I began adding weight resistance, I started out low, like 40 lbs. each leg on the Nautilus. This really helped the right knee recover and left knee which has been fine from losing too much. Single leg, leg extensions ensured I couldn't compensate with my left leg while exercising the right one.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 08, 2014, 05:08:47 PM
leg day..

hack squat warmed up 2 sets,,,3 plates/4/5 plates and 25 ..12/10/10
leg press...5/6/7 plates 12/10/10
lunges plate 45 per hand up flight steps/down and back up,,,3 x
extensions 220/235/250 12-15

hams
lying leg curls 140 to 160 3 sets
seated leg curls 180/195/195

calves
seated calf raise 3 plates/3/3 and 25 /repeat

went shopping for jeans...very hard getting good fitting or not too baggy to fit right...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 09, 2014, 01:41:54 AM
I did 100's of body weight leg extensions to keep my knees limber following knee surgery. When I began adding weight resistance, I started out low, like 40 lbs. each leg on the Nautilus. This really helped the right knee recover and left knee which has been fine from losing too much. Single leg, leg extensions ensured I couldn't compensate with my left leg while exercising the right one.
I did find cycling helped me more than anything.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on November 09, 2014, 10:33:37 AM
back and calves:


db rows   3


reverse grip pulldowns  3

hammer seated rows  3

cybex pulldowns  3

hyperextensions  3

seated calf raises 5
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 09, 2014, 12:01:58 PM
back and calves:


db rows   3


reverse grip pulldowns  3

hammer seated rows  3

cybex pulldowns  3

hyperextensions  3

seated calf raises 5
looking good .. i miss using Hammer machines
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 10, 2014, 02:04:08 AM
chest later today..
Decline press Dbs 3-4 sets or Dips
Decline Flys 3-4 sets
Incline Barbell press 3-4 sets
Incline Flys 3-4 sets
push ups 2x max

seated calf raise 5 sets. cardio will be running outside. i am thinking of maybe changing my split next week. any suggestions?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 10, 2014, 05:07:13 AM
chest later today..
Decline press Dbs 3-4 sets or Dips
Decline Flys 3-4 sets
Incline Barbell press 3-4 sets
Incline Flys 3-4 sets
push ups 2x max

seated calf raise 5 sets. cardio will be running outside. i am thinking of maybe changing my split next week. any suggestions?

What is your split again?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 10, 2014, 07:13:03 AM
 
What is your split again?
Training 5,days ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 10, 2014, 11:44:42 AM
 Training 5,days ...

So it's a 5 way split and body parts once a week? I guess something like Monday:chest; Tuesday: back; Wednesday: arms; Thursday: delts and Friday: legs. Is this similar to what you are doing?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 10, 2014, 11:54:07 AM
Trained chest and arms today.

1. Dumbbell flat bench 2 x 8 (went as deep as I could)
2. Incline dumbbell bench 2 x 8
3. Flat flies 2 x 10
4. Push ups 2 x max

1. ez bar curls 2 x 10 (seems to take the stress off my bad shoulder)
2. straight bar pulley curls 2 x 10
3. concentration curls 2 x 12
4. rope attachment curls 2 x 10

1. Weighted dips 2 x 7 (tried to go as deep as I could going down. Working up to hopefully 10 reps)
2. Single dumbbell tricep extension 2 x 10 (leaned against a turned around scott curl bench attachment)
3. rope tricep pushdowns 2 x 10
4. Reverse grip with a D handle tri extensions 2 x 12

1. forearm wrist curls 2 x 20
2. reverse wrist curls 2 x 15

1. feet on a bench weighted crunches 1 x 50
2. Pulley crunches 2 x 25

Ivanko gripper 2 x 20

Good Luck
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on November 10, 2014, 01:32:17 PM
delts and bis:


hammer presses  3

behind the back cable laterals  3

reverse pec deck  3

hammer shrugs  3

standing ez bar curls  3

db hammer curls  3

flat head machine curls  3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 10, 2014, 07:57:58 PM
chest

fdb press warm 55...65/80/85/75
decline press x3
inc flyes 45-55..3 sets
pullovers db slight incline 60-75,,3 sets
cable crossovers x3

tris
overhead rope extensions x4
reverse pushdowns x3
dip machine x3
2 sets 20reps pushdowns 'straight bar'

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 10, 2014, 09:26:54 PM
I did it! I went to the gym today. My world conspired to keep me from doing this, but nothing was going to get in my path. I did a cardio warm up on the treadmill, about 45 minutes of lifting on a combination of machines and free weights and finished off with the 7 minute tanning bed. I kept the resistance light and the reps between 12 and 25 (25 reps was one set of squats using just the bar). I was winded for a minute there. I managed to get a full body workout in with the exception of forearms and neck. This week I am going to shoot for hitting the gym three times.

Well, much to my surprise, the gym walls didn't crumble when I walked in and I have it on good word that hell didn't freeze over either. So far, so good. It's been nearly a year.

One sour note was that a piece of equipment that was broken the last time I was there was still broken. I complained to the fellow at the front desk. It's just the buckle on a strap on the Nautilus crunch, but still....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on November 11, 2014, 04:13:23 AM
I did it! I went to the gym today. My world conspired to keep me from doing this, but nothing was going to get in my path. I did a cardio warm up on the treadmill, about 45 minutes of lifting on a combination of machines and free weights and finished off with the 7 minute tanning bed. I kept the resistance light and the reps between 12 and 25 (25 reps was one set of squats using just the bar). I was winded for a minute there. I managed to get a full body workout in with the exception of forearms and neck. This week I am going to shoot for hitting the gym three times.

Well, much to my surprise, the gym walls didn't crumble when I walked in and I have it on good word that hell didn't freeze over either. So far, so good. It's been nearly a year.

One sour note was that a piece of equipment that was broken the last time I was there was still broken. I complained to the fellow at the front desk. It's just the buckle on a strap on the Nautilus crunch, but still....

Well done, sir!  Do not go gentle into that good night!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 11, 2014, 05:34:45 AM
I did it! I went to the gym today. My world conspired to keep me from doing this, but nothing was going to get in my path. I did a cardio warm up on the treadmill, about 45 minutes of lifting on a combination of machines and free weights and finished off with the 7 minute tanning bed. I kept the resistance light and the reps between 12 and 25 (25 reps was one set of squats using just the bar). I was winded for a minute there. I managed to get a full body workout in with the exception of forearms and neck. This week I am going to shoot for hitting the gym three times.

Well, much to my surprise, the gym walls didn't crumble when I walked in and I have it on good word that hell didn't freeze over either. So far, so good. It's been nearly a year.

One sour note was that a piece of equipment that was broken the last time I was there was still broken. I complained to the fellow at the front desk. It's just the buckle on a strap on the Nautilus crunch, but still....
how's the wife jay??hope all is well...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 11, 2014, 06:32:18 AM
how's the wife jay??hope all is well...
X2..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 11, 2014, 06:48:46 AM
So it's a 5 way split and body parts once a week? I guess something like Monday:chest; Tuesday: back; Wednesday: arms; Thursday: delts and Friday: legs. Is this similar to what you are doing?
Yes but i do : Chest:Legs;Back:Shoulders;Arms. I find it better to work lower body on day 2. Of course some might find it hard working back after Legs. Doing stiff legged deads on Leg day so no Deads on back day. I just concentrate on lats and traps more on Back day. Working legs at the end of the week might be a good option as you wrote. Bill Pearl suggested this split in a Book...

Chest...Shoulders...Back ...REST...Arms....Legs.   Legs at the end of the week like you wrote. Might be good to throw a rest day in there like he suggests. so what the Hell, iīll try Bill Pearls split and your advice hitting legs at the end of the week. Tomorrow i have to drink 3-4 litres of "Clean Prep" to clean out my Bowels :-X. so Tomorrow i can eat Breakfast then nothing until after my check up. Yes Shoulders sounds Good today and some light cardio ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 11, 2014, 06:51:30 AM
Yes but i do : Chest:Legs;Back:Shoulders;Arms. I find it better to work lower body on day 2. Of course some might find it hard working back after Legs. Doing stiff legged deads on Leg day so no Deads on back day. I just concentrate on lats and traps more on Back day. Working legs at the end of the week might be a good option as you wrote. Bill Pearl suggested this split in a Book...

Chest...Shoulders...Back ...REST...Arms....Legs.   Legs at the end of the week like you wrote. Might be good to throw a rest day in there like he suggests. so what the Hell, iīll try Bill Pearls split and your advice hitting legs at the end of the week. Tomorrow i have to drink 3-4 litres of "Clean Prep" to clean out my Bowels :-X. so Tomorrow i can eat Breakfast then nothing until after my check up. Yes Shoulders sounds Good today and some light cardio ;D
I LIKE YOUR SPLIT WISH MY KIDS WERE OLDER AND I COULD DO THAT ROUTINE,,I COULD DO ARMS AT HOME FULLY ON OWN NO GYM..AND DO THE 5 INSTEAD OF 4..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 11, 2014, 07:01:03 AM
 :'(... ;D   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 11, 2014, 07:05:11 AM
I LIKE YOUR SPLIT WISH MY KIDS WERE OLDER AND I COULD DO THAT ROUTINE,,I COULD DO ARMS AT HOME FULLY ON OWN NO GYM..AND DO THE 5 INSTEAD OF 4..
yes because i like doing a fair amount of cardio i find it easier to recover from both. Fairly short fast workouts and cardio . Doing arms even at Home is easy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 11, 2014, 09:40:55 PM
Seems like I must have done it right yesterday. I am not sore, I just have a mild awareness of my muscles, which could be a good sign or bad one if it means I didn't do enough. Should the latter is the case, there's always tomorrow, when I make my next appearance at the gym. I'm torn between adding resistance, and adding another set. I might get really ambitious and add both. Either way, I'm not in any danger of overdoing anything yet. I also intend to keep my workouts not longer then 90 minutes, preferably about 60 minutes.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 12, 2014, 06:47:41 AM
Good job i worked Back + shoulders yesterday... Just drunk 4 litres of that shit...glued to the fucking Toilet :-X  Was whatīs called Planning and preparation Gentlemen...i knew i would not train today..  if i did a bent over row i would shit myself...for real  ???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on November 12, 2014, 06:57:27 AM
chest and calves:


flat bench db presses  4

hammer wide grip  presses  4

pec deck   4


seated calf raises  5
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 12, 2014, 07:00:17 AM
chest and calves:


flat bench db presses  4

hammer wide grip  presses  4

pec deck   4


seated calf raises  5
Looking Good George ..looking Good.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on November 12, 2014, 07:11:47 AM
thanks sir.....best of luck to you.....you will be back to normal in no time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 12, 2014, 07:19:51 AM
thanks sir.....best of luck to you.....you will be back to normal in no time.
thanks  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on November 12, 2014, 06:57:12 PM
21 pull ups for my first set. Next two sets were only 7 each.

Three sets of smith bb rows.
Three sets of lat pull downs.
Three sets of one arm machine rows.

Only two sets of smith incline bench press before i felt a "twinge" so...
Five sets of 20 down to 5 reps of pec dec flies.

Three sets of 10 reps each machine sit ups.

All done.  It was exciting to make 21 pull ups but I had not lifted in 4 days so I was well rested.  Keep up the excellent work, lads!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 12, 2014, 07:47:21 PM
reverse'underhand 'pulldowns i used bar that curls in middle and handles flair out 'its narrow bar but hits upper back nice underhanded
low cable rows 180-210 set 12-10 reps
tbar row chest to pad x3 ,,2 plates and same with added 10's 3rd set 2 plates and 25
rope pulls to waist standing pulldown x3
pulldown hammer machine x3 wide grip

bi's
premade bar 60/80/90
scott curl dbells 30/35/35
rope cable curls'hammer'x2
cable curls single arm top and pulled like a double bi pose..x2

abs sets 5 x30
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on November 12, 2014, 08:05:25 PM
back and calves:

assisted pullups  3

hammer high rows  3

seated cable rows  3

reverse grip pulldowns  3

hyperextensions  3

cybex rotary calf machine  5
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 12, 2014, 08:42:15 PM
I know you are all waiting for this with baited breath....ha, ha. But yes, I hit the gym today for the second time this week. I just fell into a routine where I added another set and did not increase the resistance at all.

What I discovered is that I was completely out of breath on some exercises, such as squats. I can only think that my last recent bout of pneumonia has compromised the capacity of my lungs to become oxygenated. Bummer. I am not going to let this set me back. On the contrary, I soldiered through and I feel that much better for having done so.

On Friday, I am hoping to have my grandson join me in my workout. Ideally, we will workout together, but I am going to leave this up to him. He's been through a very difficult time recently. He wants to get in some gym time. Hopefully going to the gym with me will provide him with what he needs right now which is a little physical release and distraction from his other concerns.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2014, 02:36:31 AM
so had my Colonoscopy this morning...Swelling,blood. got to go to a special Doctor for check ups regular and regular medicine. One of the nurses i knew, her ex Husband i met years ago. he was also ex Army in Celle. I had to be moved from the recovery room into the treatment room early because a Muslim woman did not want a man in the Room >:( The Nurse i know said out loud..we have to move Herr smith because of a Muslim Woman..the other nurses rolled their eyes. Ridicules. doctor gave me a bit of a Bollocking about not taking medicine. Told me it can effect my other organs,liver and even eyes :o asked me if i want to live longer.. so i think it was a wake up call to take my medicine and do therapy. well i am now going to eat a big bowl of spagetti..i am hungry !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on November 13, 2014, 09:56:43 AM
hang in there don!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2014, 10:07:32 AM
hang in there don!!!
I am ok .. Take it like a man.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 13, 2014, 10:20:47 AM
What an ordeal, Donny. Your experience makes me feel like such a wus. I've been putting off rescheduling the colonoscopy for no other reason than the prep is such a pain in the ass, literally. Seems like they should have moved the Muslim woman since she was the one complaining....put her burka on her and roll her out to the sidewalk to recover.  ::)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2014, 10:26:46 AM
What an ordeal, Donny. Your experience makes me feel like such a wus. I've been putting off rescheduling the colonoscopy for no other reason than the prep is such a pain in the ass, literally. Seems like they should have moved the Muslim woman since she was the one complaining....put her burka on her and roll her out to the sidewalk to recover.  ::)
yes.. Like i wrote one nurse i knew. It is really crazy. The Nurses rolled their eyes. The Hospital is not to blame. They were so nice.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 13, 2014, 07:23:43 PM
hey donny heal up...your strong man...colonoscopy saved my brother in laws life..


delts
db press 40/50/60/65
side raises 20x15,,25 x12.30x12.35 x10
rear bent raises x3
fr press..135/155/155
rear behind back cable raises x2

shrugs 135-295 ..4 sets
rear shrugs 275 x2

calves x4 standing calf raises 24 reps sets 3 toe positions..burns,,,

forarms 4 sets rope rollupps
reverse cable wrist curls wrist on knees..x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on November 14, 2014, 06:13:55 AM
Today I trained at home, nice and early.

10 sets of 20 down to 5 reps of DB lateral raises.
5 sets of 20 reps with (dammit!) 10 lbs for shoulder presses.
3 sets of bent over DB raises.
3 sets of DB shrugs for 10 reps each.

5 sets of BB curls. 20 down to 5 reps.
6 sets of alternate DB curls 20 down to 5 reps.

Tricep pressdowns for 8 sets of 30 down to 5 reps.
Dips!  Yuppers, dips!  I had to be careful so I only did 3 sets of 5 reps bodyweight.  Dips are a favorite of mine.

3 sets of Roman Chair sit ups holding a 25 lb. plate to my chest.
All done.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 14, 2014, 06:35:26 AM
hey donny heal up...your strong man...colonoscopy saved my brother in laws life..


delts
db press 40/50/60/65
side raises 20x15,,25 x12.30x12.35 x10
rear bent raises x3
fr press..135/155/155
rear behind back cable raises x2

shrugs 135-295 ..4 sets
rear shrugs 275 x2

calves x4 standing calf raises 24 reps sets 3 toe positions..burns,,,

forarms 4 sets rope rollupps
reverse cable wrist curls wrist on knees..x3
cheers man.... a couple of days off will be ok...will go for a walk tonight for some fresh air. Itīs rather Bracing weather ;D outside...windy. I like going for a long walk in the wind.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 14, 2014, 06:38:09 AM
Today I trained at home, nice and early.

10 sets of 20 down to 5 reps of DB lateral raises.
5 sets of 20 reps with (dammit!) 10 lbs for shoulder presses.
3 sets of bent over DB raises.
3 sets of DB shrugs for 10 reps each.

5 sets of BB curls. 20 down to 5 reps.
6 sets of alternate DB curls 20 down to 5 reps.

Tricep pressdowns for 8 sets of 30 down to 5 reps.
Dips!  Yuppers, dips!  I had to be careful so I only did 3 sets of 5 reps bodyweight.  Dips are a favorite of mine.

3 sets of Roman Chair sit ups holding a 25 lb. plate to my chest.
All done.
Roman chair sit ups ...now thatīs an oldie but Goldie... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on November 15, 2014, 08:02:08 PM
arms:

rope pushdowns   3

kneeling  rope extensions  3

overhead ez bar extensions  3

assisted dips   3

standing ez bar curls   3

seated ez bar curls  3

db hammer curls  3

concentration curls   3

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 15, 2014, 10:26:39 PM
Made it to the gym today. Didn't get there yesterday because the fellow cleaning our blinds didn't finish up in time for me to get it in.

Today I did three sets of approximately 12 reps on all exercises. For a general warmup I did 10 minutes on the thread mill, plus a 2 minute cool down before hitting the weights and machines. In keeping with the routine I started at the beginning of the week, I did a full body workout, working large muscle groups first and finishing up with arms and finally abs.

Doing three sets took awhile. Probably about an hour all together. I rested not longer than a minute between sets. I added some weight resistance to the squats which felt good and I was still able to go deep with no knee problems. Breathing, as in getting enough oxygen, was still an issue with the squats. Hopefully, my lung capacity will start picking up next week.

Have not decided how to proceed next week. I will probably stay with 3 sets and just work on adding some resistance a little at a time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 16, 2014, 03:55:54 PM
leg day hard/heavy/volume

leg press..4 plates,,5..6..7..7.reps 15/12/10/8
squats close stance  ..225/315/315 10/10/10
walking lunges x2 50 lb dbells
leg extensions 205/220/235 sets 12..


hams
sldl 135/185/235/235
lying leg curls ..140/150/155/160

calves
leg press x3
seated calf raise x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on November 16, 2014, 04:38:48 PM
great workout today.....awesome pump!!!!


getting ready to watch the sunday night game.


hope you gents had a nice weekend.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 16, 2014, 05:52:01 PM
so had my Colonoscopy this morning...Swelling,blood. got to go to a special Doctor for check ups regular and regular medicine. One of the nurses i knew, her ex Husband i met years ago. he was also ex Army in Celle. I had to be moved from the recovery room into the treatment room early because a Muslim woman did not want a man in the Room >:( The Nurse i know said out loud..we have to move Herr smith because of a Muslim Woman..the other nurses rolled their eyes. Ridicules. doctor gave me a bit of a Bollocking about not taking medicine. Told me it can effect my other organs,liver and even eyes :o asked me if i want to live longer.. so i think it was a wake up call to take my medicine and do therapy. well i am now going to eat a big bowl of spagetti..i am hungry !

(I haven't checked this thread for a while)

I wasn't exactly familiar with this examination, so I did some reading about the preparation, the procedure and its complications on it's Wiki page.
Damn, this sounds pretty thorough, so I hope you're doing fine, take care!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 17, 2014, 02:17:35 AM
Well later i will train chest/Abs/calves ...maybe go for an easy run. The Don is on track   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on November 17, 2014, 06:49:02 AM
Well later i will train chest/Abs/calves ...maybe go for an easy run. The Don is on track   ;D

keep pumpin Don!!!!! You are strong!!!! You have a good mental approach to life brother!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 17, 2014, 09:31:04 AM
keep pumpin Don!!!!! You are strong!!!! You have a good mental approach to life brother!!
Mate.. you donīt have a choice  ;D I did more upper chest.

Incline barbell press 4 sets
Incline DB Flys 4 sets
Incline DB press(palms facing each other) 4 sets
Decline barbell press 4 sets

Left out Abs+Cardio, did 5 sets seated calf raises. was enough today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 17, 2014, 09:40:20 AM
Mate.. you donīt have a choice  ;D I did more upper chest.

Incline barbell press 4 sets
Incline DB Flys 4 sets
Incline DB press(palms facing each other) 4 sets
Decline barbell press 4 sets

Left out Abs+Cardio, did 5 sets seated calf raises. was enough today.
NICE!!!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 17, 2014, 09:46:17 AM
NICE!!!!!
i know i am  :D ;D  well back home. Make myself a Brew,(a Tea) settle  down watch Berlin Tag und Nacht on Rtl2... makes me laugh.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 17, 2014, 09:52:33 AM
 ;D
http://rtl2now.rtl2.de/berlin-tag-nacht.php
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on November 17, 2014, 01:53:20 PM
chest and bis:

hammer wide grip presses   4

db bench presses   4

pec deck  4


concentration curls   3

hammer rope curls   3

standing ez bar curls   3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on November 17, 2014, 02:59:04 PM
51 year + some months young....offseason, 6 "2" tall, act. BW 255 lbs.

in the moment i try some new methods to place new stimulus, and take the stress a bit away from my joints, ligaments, tendoms....

Back training 2 days ago in my private home-gym.....started 1. with Pullover-machine...

1. warm-up, 40kg, 60kg,80kg, 100kg  120kg x 20 regular reps (1-2 seconds positive, 2-3 seconds negative)
    about 15-20 seconds to chin-up bar
1a  pull-up/chin up, Bodyweight medium grip-width 14 reps.
     2 minutes rest, than again
     pullover-machine 120 kg x 16 reps + chin-up 10 reps
     go back to pullover, reduce weight to 80 kg and do 5 slow reps (about 20 seconds positive, 5-10 seconds negative)

2.  Lat-pulldown to front, narrow grip,  warm-up  60kg,
     80 kg with regular reps close to faillure......30-40 reps ? (not count...)
     80kg, started with some regular reps, than try to do 2 ultra-slow reps (25 seconds for positive rep, about 10 for negative), after this
     going on with some more regular reps.

    


3. seated rowing machine, 60 kg       100kg x 27 reps (regular), 75 kg x 5 reps (ultra-slow)

this training is only for a relative short time, different kind of stress and stimulus, after 2-4 weeks i go back to heavier training again.

take some "snapshots" after training before shower.....old man veins pump....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 17, 2014, 04:30:59 PM
That's a solid pumped arm, Charlys. Do you also have a picture of your home gym setup and do you have a particular reason to train at home?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 17, 2014, 07:54:44 PM
chest
fdb press 60/70/80/85-65
decline press  x3
inc flyes 50-55-55-45 drop
db pullovers 60-70-70
peck deck x3

tris
dip machine x4
reverse underhand pushdowns x3
overhead rope etensions x3
close grip bench x2 20 reps sets finish

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 18, 2014, 02:30:14 AM
some great workouts :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on November 18, 2014, 03:32:38 AM
That's a solid pumped arm, Charlys. Do you also have a picture of your home gym setup and do you have a particular reason to train at home?

the equipment of my homegym i get from a friend who closed his Gym in the mid 90īs. He give me about 12-15 machines, dumbells, weights, barbell, somes benches,....all for free. The only thing i buy myself
was a stationary bike for Cardio and a stairmaster.
The equipment is old (back from the 70īs) but still doing the job. The room is only 1 minute from my house, and 1 minute from my "work". 5-6 Friends are allowed to train there (for free...). In the last 20 Years no one of us injured while training in the homegym...hope this will continue..

i also train in "public gyms"....because they are bigger, and you have more options what to train.
The advantage of my homegym is, i can hear the music i like, and can use it 24 hours/365 days a year. Sometimes (if i like, or for anpther reasons, "faster...spend time",...) i train in that room, sometimes in the regular Gyms in my Area. Would say 1 train homegym, 2 training public gyms....

if i only do Cardio in the morning before work, i go to the homegym, cause i can shower at work, which is only 50 m away.


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 18, 2014, 06:06:49 AM
the equipment of my homegym i get from a friend who closed his Gym in the mid 90īs. He give me about 12-15 machines, dumbells, weights, barbell, somes benches,....all for free. The only thing i buy myself
was a stationary bike for Cardio and a stairmaster.
The equipment is old (back from the 70īs) but still doing the job. The room is only 1 minute from my house, and 1 minute from my "work". 5-6 Friends are allowed to train there (for free...). In the last 20 Years no one of us injured while training in the homegym...hope this will continue..

i also train in "public gyms"....because they are bigger, and you have more options what to train.
The advantage of my homegym is, i can hear the music i like, and can use it 24 hours/365 days a year. Sometimes (if i like, or for anpther reasons, "faster...spend time",...) i train in that room, sometimes in the regular Gyms in my Area. Would say 1 train homegym, 2 training public gyms....

if i only do Cardio in the morning before work, i go to the homegym, cause i can shower at work, which is only 50 m away.



i'm jealous...I have decent setup in a pinch ,you have a great option like 'oldtimer rich 'here also,,damn..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 18, 2014, 06:52:40 AM
i'm jealous...I have decent setup in a pinch ,you have a great option like 'oldtimer rich 'here also,,damn..
yes...i just have basics..squat stands..bench...chinning dipping bars..
Good drills. Home training is good at times
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on November 18, 2014, 11:29:00 AM
Crummy  (but not fatal  ;D) news from my doctors so I am backing off on the training for now.  More tests to come but apparently I am once again anemic.  I will be picking up a trial CPAP this Friday.   Could've used it to be Darth Vader on Halloween... ;D

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 18, 2014, 12:10:10 PM
Crummy  (but not fatal  ;D) news from my doctors so I am backing off on the training for now.  More tests to come but apparently I am once again anemic.  I will be picking up a trial CPAP this Friday.   Could've used it to be Darth Vader on Halloween... ;D


all the best scotty
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 18, 2014, 05:48:53 PM
the equipment of my homegym i get from a friend who closed his Gym in the mid 90īs. He give me about 12-15 machines, dumbells, weights, barbell, somes benches,....all for free. The only thing i buy myself
was a stationary bike for Cardio and a stairmaster.
The equipment is old (back from the 70īs) but still doing the job. The room is only 1 minute from my house, and 1 minute from my "work". 5-6 Friends are allowed to train there (for free...). In the last 20 Years no one of us injured while training in the homegym...hope this will continue..

i also train in "public gyms"....because they are bigger, and you have more options what to train.
The advantage of my homegym is, i can hear the music i like, and can use it 24 hours/365 days a year. Sometimes (if i like, or for anpther reasons, "faster...spend time",...) i train in that room, sometimes in the regular Gyms in my Area. Would say 1 train homegym, 2 training public gyms....

if i only do Cardio in the morning before work, i go to the homegym, cause i can shower at work, which is only 50 m away.




Having a home gym is fantastic. I really enjoy the solitude of working out by myself blasting the radio.

 I notice you do super slow reps. Do you follow Darden and Ronald Hutchison view points on this?  I remember the blasphemy of the HIT community when Hutchison changed the cams on the MEDX machines for his super slow.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 18, 2014, 11:39:41 PM
Week two. Doing the full body workout still. Didn't make it yesterday....long sad story. Went today. I'll still get at least three days in this week. Yahoo!

My son-in-law purchased a family membership at a gym which is closer to home. I doubt it has the array of equipment that the gym I go to has, but I am going to check it out tomorrow. It's kind of fun to be able to go to different gyms for a a change of scene.

I got the nicest compliment at the gym today. This fellow asked me if I used to work out at a different with the same owner. I said I did. He told me I don't look any different except for having a beard. He said he was 18 years old when he went there. He then told me he is 40 now.

Not bad, even being recognized 22 years later is pretty great, but being told I haven't changed as in looking older is even better. I told him I was 70 years old. He seemed shocked.

He's my new best buddy!  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on November 19, 2014, 02:04:23 AM
Having a home gym is fantastic. I really enjoy the solitude of working out by myself blasting the radio.

 I notice you do super slow reps. Do you follow Darden and Ronald Hutchison view points on this?  I remember the blasphemy of the HIT community when Hutchison changed the cams on the MEDX machines for his super slow.


my training is more holisitc, that means i use all kind of rep-ranges, and different kinds of rep speeds. For Super-slow reps i wouldīnt call me an expert. I do them sometimes in the middle or end of my worked musclegroups. I believe that some exercises can be done in slow-motion and have some positive effect, others are not so optimal for this technique (Deadlift,.....)
When iīm training in a public gym some people staring at me when iīm doing that kind of reps. Sometimes it donīt bother you, sometimes you donīt like that. So in the homegym i can do what i like without observations. If this people will come up to me and ask, i will give my statement, why i do this, or how to find the "optimal resistance" for this technique.
Iīm not addiceted to only 1 kind of training muscles (for example heavy weights  - low reps, or higher reps-lower weights), i like the variation, so my focus is most of the time good when iīm training. If i only train in one fashion, i think it could get boring, if you donīt progress after some years.
1 benefit od super slow training is that you train the rep all the way, full stretch, full contraction, and get a better connection to some stubborn muscle sections.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 19, 2014, 10:54:55 AM
Today i trained Back.

Front chins 3x max
Barbell Rows 4 sets
Barbell Bent arm Pullovers 3 sets
Close grip pulley rows 4 sets

Cardio: 45 mins easy run outside. Abs: Incline sit ups 3 sets, hanging knee raises 3 sets. Went straight for a run after workout and did Abs at Home.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on November 19, 2014, 01:14:21 PM
delts and bis:


hammer presses   3

behind the back cable laterals  3

reverse pec deck   3

db shrugs  3

standing ez bar curls  3

one arm preachers  3

hammer rope curls  3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 19, 2014, 01:27:11 PM
delts and bis:


hammer presses   3

behind the back cable laterals  3

reverse pec deck   3

db shrugs  3

standing ez bar curls  3

one arm preachers  3

hammer rope curls  3

WHAT ARE YOUR REP SCHEMES????
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on November 19, 2014, 01:41:00 PM
no more than 10-12 reps and no less than 6 reps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 19, 2014, 02:03:18 PM
no more than 10-12 reps and no less than 6 reps.
ME TOO,,AT TIMES I WILL DO A 15-20 CURL OR TRI PUSHDOWNS 2 SETS TO FINISH OFF..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 19, 2014, 07:58:37 PM
back...
close bar grip front pulldowns x4
tbar row pad to chest x2 ..2 playes,2 plates and 10's,2 plates and 25
seated row machine ,chest to pad version ,2 sets low grip ,2 sets side grips
pulldowns behind neck x3
standing pulls to waist x3

weighted hypers x3

bi's
seated curl machine x3
dbell curls x3
barbell curlsx3
cable curls top grips on cable crossover x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: ritch on November 19, 2014, 08:11:47 PM

my training is more holisitc, that means i use all kind of rep-ranges, and different kinds of rep speeds. For Super-slow reps i wouldīnt call me an expert. I do them sometimes in the middle or end of my worked musclegroups. I believe that some exercises can be done in slow-motion and have some positive effect, others are not so optimal for this technique (Deadlift,.....)
When iīm training in a public gym some people staring at me when iīm doing that kind of reps. Sometimes it donīt bother you, sometimes you donīt like that. So in the homegym i can do what i like without observations. If this people will come up to me and ask, i will give my statement, why i do this, or how to find the "optimal resistance" for this technique.
Iīm not addiceted to only 1 kind of training muscles (for example heavy weights  - low reps, or higher reps-lower weights), i like the variation, so my focus is most of the time good when iīm training. If i only train in one fashion, i think it could get boring, if you donīt progress after some years.
1 benefit od super slow training is that you train the rep all the way, full stretch, full contraction, and get a better connection to some stubborn muscle sections.


That is so close to what I do, was like I wrote it myself. I just never do volume 6 work sets per muscle group is plenty when taken to some sort of failure like rest/pause, drop sets, static, negatives...

I wish I would have opened myself up sooner and do 3-0-3-2 arm temp years ago. Plus it's so much easier on the joints, but heavy ass lifting is still needed for sure, no escaping that!...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 20, 2014, 05:05:33 AM
no more than 10-12 reps and no less than 6 reps.
pretty much what i do too, although i do 5x5 now and again.  Front squats i like higher reps normally around 15. Legs i like more reps genrally. Stiff legged deads i do 10-15 and really feel it. I like 10-15 for legs. One of the hardest squat workouts iīve done is 20 rep squats old school superset with pull overs. I think Bill Grant said this one time that we are not powerlifters but Bodybuilders and so Higher reps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 20, 2014, 08:16:40 PM
delts at home

press db..45/50/60/60
laterals x3 drops 30x10/20x10 ..
rear laterals on incline face down x3
front raise cable x3
i do a db raise finish hands in rear raise up shoulder level x2

shrugs
rear cable shrugs x4
front shrug cable  supersetied with db to sides x2

finished 3 sets pushups 20 reps sets..nice fr delt/pec finish with delt pump..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 21, 2014, 01:36:21 AM
delts at home

press db..45/50/60/60
laterals x3 drops 30x10/20x10 ..
rear laterals on incline face down x3
front raise cable x3
i do a db raise finish hands in rear raise up shoulder level x2

shrugs
rear cable shrugs x4
front shrug cable  supersetied with db to sides x2

finished 3 sets pushups 20 reps sets..nice fr delt/pec finish with delt pump..
nice... next workout iīm going to do Reverse Dumbbell laterals like bertil fox did. Not done them in a long time. Good trap exercise too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 21, 2014, 06:54:04 AM
nice... next workout iīm going to do Reverse Dumbbell laterals like bertil fox did. Not done them in a long time. Good trap exercise too.
sorta did them that way ,,i like arnold incline laying on side raises too...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 21, 2014, 07:03:29 AM
sorta did them that way ,,i like Arnold incline laying on side raises too...
yes great move.. Doing raises from a Parallel position upwards really hits Delts and Traps..Palms up. Not a lot of weight but effective.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 21, 2014, 07:08:45 AM
yes great move.. Doing raises from a Parallel position upwards really hits Delts and Traps..Palms up. Not a lot of weight but effective.
drug crowd i understand less effort 'easier gains...but i actually love training and idea to shake it up/redirect it/come up with different ways to stimulate...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 21, 2014, 07:26:51 AM
drug crowd i understand less effort 'easier gains...but i actually love training and idea to shake it up/redirect it/come up with different ways to stimulate...
I think Rich is a good example, does some Heavy Duty style workouts, i think his average sets are 2 sets but then again has an open opinion about volume. A very Knowledible guy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 21, 2014, 10:38:31 PM
My two week update. Okay so this is the end of the second week of me hitting the gym again. I'm still taking it easy with the weights and reps, but there is steady improvement. Two weeks ago on day one, I did a full body workout; one set of 12 reps using mostly Nautilus equipment and very little added resistance. Today I still did a full body workout, only I did 3 sets of 12 - 10 reps using more weight and a variety of Nautilus, Hammer and free weights.

It is like I am starting from scratch. I'm not going to push myself too hard. The goal is to be consistent. Not to be super strong or a mass monster, as if that were even possible.

One amazing thing is that doing deep squats with very light resistance seems to actually be helping with the knee pain. I almost have no knee pain at all. I must be doing something right! Yahoo. My gait is pretty much back to my normal fast walk pace instead of limping along like a geezer or Tim Conway playing a geezer. You all are probably too old to remember him, but that's okay too.

One thing that really made my day today was to see Earl at the gym. Earl is 10 years older than I am. He's a former amateur bodybuilder whose photo hangs on the wall at the gym. He also won a few power lifting contests when he was in his 60's and 70's. Earl cannot drive any longer because of vision problems and Parkinson's, so his wife and son bring him to the gym to workout these days. He was chatting it up with an attractive lady when I saw him. We had a good buddy moment and I left him to his new lady friend. I hope I look half as good as he does in 10 years.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 22, 2014, 07:51:21 AM
My two week update. Okay so this is the end of the second week of me hitting the gym again. I'm still taking it easy with the weights and reps, but there is steady improvement. Two weeks ago on day one, I did a full body workout; one set of 12 reps using mostly Nautilus equipment and very little added resistance. Today I still did a full body workout, only I did 3 sets of 12 - 10 reps using more weight and a variety of Nautilus, Hammer and free weights.

It is like I am starting from scratch. I'm not going to push myself too hard. The goal is to be consistent. Not to be super strong or a mass monster, as if that were even possible.

One amazing thing is that doing deep squats with very light resistance seems to actually be helping with the knee pain. I almost have no knee pain at all. I must be doing something right! Yahoo. My gait is pretty much back to my normal fast walk pace instead of limping along like a geezer or Tim Conway playing a geezer. You all are probably too old to remember him, but that's okay too.

One thing that really made my day today was to see Earl at the gym. Earl is 10 years older than I am. He's a former amateur bodybuilder whose photo hangs on the wall at the gym. He also won a few power lifting contests when he was in his 60's and 70's. Earl cannot drive any longer because of vision problems and Parkinson's, so his wife and son bring him to the gym to workout these days. He was chatting it up with an attractive lady when I saw him. We had a good buddy moment and I left him to his new lady friend. I hope I look half as good as he does in 10 years.


your Friend Earl sounds like a good Guy..keep pumpin...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 22, 2014, 12:26:44 PM
10 bags leaves and 4 barrells after leg day,,still have about 10 bags to do,,trees love/hate,,

leg press..warmed up ...5/6/7/7 plates per
hack squat..4/5/5 and 25
walking lunges x2 80 lb on back
extensions 205/220/235

hams
sldl dbells 60/70/80...
seated leg curls..180/195/210

calves
seated calf raise x3
leg press version x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 22, 2014, 02:39:15 PM
I think Rich is a good example, does some Heavy Duty style workouts, i think his average sets are 2 sets but then again has an open opinion about volume. A very Knowledible guy.

Thanks for the compliment.  If I wasn't drunk as a skunk I would reply.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 23, 2014, 06:05:25 AM
Thanks for the compliment.  If I wasn't drunk as a skunk I would reply.
Hope you enjoyed yourself  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 24, 2014, 04:44:54 AM
so later i will Hit chest/Cardio....

incline Barbell press 4 sets.
incline DB flys 4 sets
Decline (palms in) DB press or parallel Bar dips.. 4 sets
Decline DB flys or Flat Flys..4 sets

Direct after a hard fast run..will push it. when iīm back home some Abs..depends how tired i am  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 24, 2014, 02:17:41 PM
I know I'm a little schizophrenic in my training in that I change routines often. I did this today. I have a really sore hamstring from doing cardio intervals. I think I have to drop the 8 x 400 for now and run slower 6 x 800 for awhile.

Pull ups 2 x max
V grip seated pulley lat rows 2 x 12
Dumbbell row leg on bench 2  x 10
Reverse grip pull downs 2 x 10

Bench 2 x 6 then 1 x 1
Incline bench 2 x 6
Flat flies 2 x 10
Push ups 2 x max (One set conventional and one with push up handles.)

Dead lift 2 x 4 then 1 x 1
Weighted hypers 2 x 15

Floor weighted crunches 1 x 50
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 25, 2014, 01:11:49 AM
I know I'm a little schizophrenic in my training in that I change routines often. I did this today. I have a really sore hamstring from doing cardio intervals. I think I have to drop the 8 x 400 for now and run slower 6 x 800 for awhile.

Pull ups 2 x max
V grip seated pulley lat rows 2 x 12
Dumbbell row leg on bench 2  x 10
Reverse grip pull downs 2 x 10

Bench 2 x 6 then 1 x 1
Incline bench 2 x 6
Flat flies 2 x 10
Push ups 2 x max (One set conventional and one with push up handles.)

Dead lift 2 x 4 then 1 x 1
Weighted hypers 2 x 15

Floor weighted crunches 1 x 50
i think i would have left out the Deadlifts and just did slow stretches on the Hypers pausing at the bottom position.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 25, 2014, 05:27:03 AM
chest day ...back to basics

fdb press warmed set...70/80/85...90  haven't hit these since I got hurt almost 2 yrs ago did 4 reps  ;D,,,not bad..
inc db press 60/70/70 very pleased here as well
decline press x3
pullover dbells 60-75's
peck deck x3 15 reps sets squeeze

tris
extension machine seated x3
dip machine x3
reverse grip pushdowns x3
finished vbar pushdowns x2 20 reps ..killer

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on November 25, 2014, 10:37:12 AM
sunday morning back and biceps (pull exercises)

1. pullover-machine, 5 warm-up sets

supersetting with chin ups (Bodyweight), before starting that superset i did 3 lighter sets of lat-pulldown

pullover-machine, 264 lbs. stack x 16 reps   +  14 chinups, medium grip to front
                        264 lbs.         x 12 reps    x  11 chinups, "
                        264 lbs.         x 10           + 9 chinups

seated row machine, weight-stack, 1 warm-up set
2 sets with 275 lbs. x 18  + x 14 reps
 

Lat-pulldown to front, narrow grip, 2 warm-up sets
+ 2 sets with 90 kg, donīt count the total reps, cause i did 2 ultra-slow-reps, after my first 3-4 reps, and after the slow-reps i go back to normal rep-speed.


5 sets of EZ-scott-curls, 2 warm-up, 3 sets with 110 lbs
2 sets dumbell-curls, 45 and 55 lbs.
 
10 Minutes after Training in the bathroom of the police-station iīm working the last 30 Years....current Bodyweight 254 lbs, 6 "2", only 51 Years + some months young.....hope to have some good more years of training.





Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 25, 2014, 01:05:56 PM
chest day ...back to basics

fdb press warmed set...70/80/85...90  haven't hit these since I got hurt almost 2 yrs ago did 4 reps  ;D,,,not bad..
inc db press 60/70/70 very pleased here as well
decline press x3
pullover dbells 60-75's
peck deck x3 15 reps sets squeeze

tris
extension machine seated x3
dip machine x3
reverse grip pushdowns x3
finished vbar pushdowns x2 20 reps ..killer

abs
Basics are the best  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 25, 2014, 01:06:57 PM
sunday morning back and biceps (pull exercises)

1. pullover-machine, 5 warm-up sets

supersetting with chin ups (Bodyweight), before starting that superset i did 3 lighter sets of lat-pulldown

pullover-machine, 264 lbs. stack x 16 reps   +  14 chinups, medium grip to front
                        264 lbs.         x 12 reps    x  11 chinups, "
                        264 lbs.         x 10           + 9 chinups

seated row machine, weight-stack, 1 warm-up set
2 sets with 275 lbs. x 18  + x 14 reps
 

Lat-pulldown to front, narrow grip, 2 warm-up sets
+ 2 sets with 90 kg, donīt count the total reps, cause i did 2 ultra-slow-reps, after my first 3-4 reps, and after the slow-reps i go back to normal rep-speed.


5 sets of EZ-scott-curls, 2 warm-up, 3 sets with 110 lbs
2 sets dumbell-curls, 45 and 55 lbs.
 
10 Minutes after Training in the bathroom of the police-station iīm working the last 30 Years....current Bodyweight 254 lbs, 6 "2", only 51 Years + some months young.....hope to have some good more years of training.






where are you in Germany? like the Kettler bench in the background ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 25, 2014, 06:08:25 PM
Off day. Ran a 5K training run in my favorite park. It's one mile per lap with no traffic. Kept seeing this hot blond running in those shear yoga tights every lap. She was running the opposite way. Nice motivation.  :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 25, 2014, 08:32:00 PM
Off day. Ran a 5K training run in my favorite park. It's one mile per lap with no traffic. Kept seeing this hot blond running in those shear yoga tights every lap. She was running the opposite way. Nice motivation.  :P

Ha, ha. If you were running on a track, you probably did two laps for every one of hers just to see her in those sheer tights again and again. Oh the joys of beautiful young women never get old even when we do.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on November 26, 2014, 01:28:24 AM
where are you in Germany? like the Kettler bench in the background ;D

thatīs in a smaller City in the western part of Germany, 10 Minutes away from the Rhein-river, 15 Minutes by car to Bonn (former Capitol of Westgermany, and 25 Minutes away from Koblenz). Beside in that old homegym i train also in Bonn/Cologne/Düsseldorf/Koblenz in public Gyms.
25 Years ago i lived close to 2 US Airforce Bases in Germany (Bitburg, closed about 20 Years ago...), and Spnagdahlem (still open), and had the oppurtunity to train in the Gym at Spangdahlem Air-Base, cause with my police-ID i was allowed to join the Gym in Spangdahlem. Now i live more than 1 hour away from my old hometown.


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 26, 2014, 06:07:43 AM
Off day. Ran a 5K training run in my favorite park. It's one mile per lap with no traffic. Kept seeing this hot blond running in those shear yoga tights every lap. She was running the opposite way. Nice motivation.  :P
Ya Dirty old Man... ;D did a Home Back workout Today.

Chins Mediun Grip 3x max
BB rows 4 sets
Ez Bar Pullovers 3 sets
One arm DB rows 4 sets
EZ bar close grip upright rows 3 sets

Abs 3x max Hanging knee raises. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 26, 2014, 06:10:50 AM
thatīs in a smaller City in the western part of Germany, 10 Minutes away from the Rhein-river, 15 Minutes by car to Bonn (former Capitol of Westgermany, and 25 Minutes away from Koblenz). Beside in that old homegym i train also in Bonn/Cologne/Düsseldorf/Koblenz in public Gyms.
25 Years ago i lived close to 2 US Airforce Bases in Germany (Bitburg, closed about 20 Years ago...), and Spnagdahlem (still open), and had the oppurtunity to train in the Gym at Spangdahlem Air-Base, cause with my police-ID i was allowed to join the Gym in Spangdahlem. Now i live more than 1 hour away from my old hometown.



i live near Hannover. Have also lived in Herford.  Bitburg? "Bitte ein Bit ! "  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 26, 2014, 06:48:25 AM
Ya Dirty old Man... ;D did a Home Back workout Today.

Chins Mediun Grip 3x max
BB rows 4 sets
Ez Bar Pullovers 3 sets
One arm DB rows 4 sets
EZ bar close grip upright rows 3 sets

Abs 3x max Hanging knee raises. 
I might be training at home too ,,snowing here pretty bad..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 26, 2014, 07:37:23 AM
I might be training at home too ,,snowing here pretty bad..

Nothing but heavy rain and above freezing temperatures here by the shore. North west NJ is going to get hammered.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 26, 2014, 09:41:00 AM
Was running Outside ..getting colder good i wrapped up well. Hot shower feel great 😁
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on November 26, 2014, 09:47:12 AM
i live near Hannover. Have also lived in Herford.  Bitburg? "Bitte ein Bit ! "  ;)

Yes "Bitburger Pils" is 1 of the most famous Beers in Germany.....also "main sponsor of the German national soccer Team for many years".....last time i was in "Bitburg-city" is about 2 Years ago, when my mother died there in Hospital...... :'(but i sometimes go visit my father, brother and sister who lived 15 Minutes away from Bitburg inn the "Eifel Mountains, really countryside...).

p.s. "oldtimer" your private question in my email-account. Iīm working for the "Polizeipräsidium Koblenz" (last 27 Years....before i was in Wittlich/Eifel and in Mainz (Capitol of Rheinland-Pfalz). In 8 Years and 8 months i can quit working and get my full pension.

Sunday i fly to Eqypt (Hurghada) and will train there 3-4 times next week at Golds Gym (like last time, July 2014).
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 26, 2014, 12:20:14 PM
Trained legs today,

Squats 2 x 9 then 1 x 1
leg press 2 x 12 (low back board setting so I could really bend my legs)
leg extensions 2 x 20
seated leg curl 2 x 15
standing leg curl 2 x 12

side bend with single dumbbell 1 x 15
Hanging leg raise 2 x max
Pulley crunches 2 x 25

Leg press calf 2 x 25
standing calf 2 x 15
seated calf 2 x 15

Neck work
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 26, 2014, 07:58:03 PM
back
underhaned grip pulldowns narrow bar x4
tbar row 2.5 plates/3,,/3 and 25
cable lower pully single grips x3
rope to waist,, standing pulldowns x3
seated row side grip seat low'upper to outer lat''x3

weighted hypers x3

bis
seated curl machine single arm x4
curl bar premade ..80/90/90
cable curls x3
2 sets across body hammers 40/50 db

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 26, 2014, 09:16:31 PM
Weather is good here. Cool and not raining. Good thing too since the landscaper is working on part of the yard. A week ago the ground was frozen.

I went to the gym today and had a great full body workout. Cannot believe how easily I am adding weight to squats. I worried that they would fuck up my already fucked up knee but the opposite has been the case. My knee feels great. It looks like this week is going to be a two times workout week. I missed getting to the gym on Monday because we had a bunch of contractors here all day and I couldn't get away.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 28, 2014, 06:09:57 AM
DELT DAY SWITCHED AROUND SOME THINGS 'GOD PUMP'

STARTED REAR DELTS ON PEC DECK X4
DB PRESSES 50/55/60/60
'TRI SET'THIS WAS NICE'SIDES/FR/BENT REAR RAISES SET 1 ALL WITH 20LB DBELLS/SET 2/3 WITH 25'S .PAINFUL..
FINISHED 2 SETS UPRIGHTS PREMADE BAR 70/80

SHRUGS
185/235/285X2 LAST SET DROP BACK TO235 FOR FEW MORE..

CALVES GOT CREATIVE REPS...DROP
220 X10/180/160/140 BRUTAL X3

FORARMS
WEIGHTED ROLLS
REVERSE CABLE WRIST CURLS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 28, 2014, 06:17:07 AM
DELT DAY SWITCHED AROUND SOME THINGS 'GOD PUMP'

STARTED REAR DELTS ON PEC DECK X4
DB PRESSES 50/55/60/60
'TRI SET'THIS WAS NICE'SIDES/FR/BENT REAR RAISES SET 1 ALL WITH 20LB DBELLS/SET 2/3 WITH 25'S .PAINFUL..
FINISHED 2 SETS UPRIGHTS PREMADE BAR 70/80

SHRUGS
185/235/285X2 LAST SET DROP BACK TO235 FOR FEW MORE..

CALVES GOT CREATIVE REPS...DROP
220 X10/180/160/140 BRUTAL X3

FORARMS
WEIGHTED ROLLS
REVERSE CABLE WRIST CURLS
Nice... perfect Delt workout. Tri sets are great for Delts like Supersets for arms..which i will do later.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 28, 2014, 12:08:33 PM
Delt and arms the day after Thanks Giving. I think I ate 6000 calories. I had to unbutton my pants. No warm ups listed

Press behind the neck 2 x 6 (I know doing these at my age with a bad shoulder is nuts)
Dumbbell laterals 2 x 10
One arm pulley laterals 1 x 10
Rear delt laterals 2 x 10
Shrugs 2  x 10

Weighted dips 2 x 10
traditional tricep push downs 2 x 10
Single dumbbell two hands tricep extension 2 x 10

ez bar curls 2 x 10
Pulley curls using a  straight bar 2 x 10
concentration curls 2 x 12

fourarm wrist curls 2 x 20
reverse wrist extensions 2 x 15

weighted crunches with lower legs on a bench 1 x 55
Pulley crunches 2 x 25

Ivanko gripper 2 x 20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jr on November 28, 2014, 07:26:39 PM
Since I quit my job yesterday to take an extended break, my new routine will be full body workouts every second day.

In the off days I will either do sprint interval training (10 second sprint, 10 second rest, at least 10 sets) or 30 minute jogging/walking.

The full body workouts will be split into 3 sessions, morning legs, afternoon chest/shoulders/triceps, and evening back/biceps.

Starting off with low volume 1 work set per exercise and increasing the number of sets as the days and weeks progress.

Recovery is foam rolling/tennis ball massage and 10 minute meditation or nap after every training session. Stretching on off days.

Morning session - squats
Afternoon session - bench, lateral raises, dips, overhead extensions
Evening session - deadlifts, rows, chins, curls

Add in extra exercises as needed.

Been eating 1500 calories for the past 3 months and got down to about 10% or so. Increasing calories to 2000 in first week, then to 2500 and monitoring body fat thickness. Maybe increase calories if body fat is still dropping.

Goal is to gain muscle while continuing to slowly lose fat.

500 mg Testosterone Enanthate per week + 25 mg Ostarine per day + peptides.

Will do this routine until early January when I will be going on holidays overseas.

Should be good. Never had this much time to dedicate to training before.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 28, 2014, 07:43:05 PM
Personally I could never go to a gym three times a day. 10 second sprints at my age would end in a ripped hamstring or calf. I find I lean out quick doing something like 8 x 440 yards intervals. Since I irritated my hamstring doing them last week I'm going to do slower 6 x 880 yard repeats tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jr on November 28, 2014, 07:56:13 PM
I have a home gym, takes 30 seconds to get there  ;D

I like to jog to the park to warm up, and do the first few sprints submaximally to prepare the legs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 28, 2014, 08:07:17 PM
Home gyms are the best. I know many can't stand them. They enjoy working out with other people. More power to them. I just blast my radio and get to work. Motivation is never a problem.

I have a pretty good set up for a home gym. I'm going to down size my house in a year or two. Then I'm going the IronMaster Dumbbell route and an all in one bench. Just simplicity. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 28, 2014, 08:25:28 PM
Home gyms are the best. I know many can't stand them. They enjoy working out with other people. More power to them. I just blast my radio and get to work. Motivation is never a problem.

I have a pretty good set up for a home gym. I'm going to down size my house in a year or two. Then I'm going the IronMaster Dumbbell route and an all in one bench. Just simplicity. 

Currently, I don't have the space for a home gym. Many years and a couple of properties ago, our house had a basement where I set up a home gym. The pluses as I remember them was the convenience of the gym being right there when ever you were ready to workout, the ability to workout wearing whatever was comfortable, including nothing at all in hot weather, and mostly no excuses for not working out.

There were some inconveniences too. It is hard for me to ignore interruptions. If the phone rang and it was a call I thought I should take, I would. If my wife needed help with something and called down to me, which was rare but it did sometimes happen, I'd drop what I was doing and help her. In a nutshell, there were distractions which I gave into.

As much as having a home gym again would be great, I like going to the gym. There is a lot of motivation there. There are people who have great physiques which give me something to shoot for, never mind that they may be decades younger than me. There are guys older than me who still show up and actually do something, they are an inspiration, should I be feeling old. The gym where I belong has such a huge array of equipment, it is impossible to have your workouts become stale.

Ideally, I'd like both a home gym and to keep my membership at the gym where I currently go and have worked out at for nearly 40 years.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 29, 2014, 03:13:53 AM
trained Arms/Abs/calves yesterday evening.

Supersets:

Close Grip Chins with Parallel Bar Dips

Incline DB curls with Standing Barbell extensions behind head

Cable Bar curls with V-Bar pressdowns

Forearms: Reverse ez bar curl on preacher bench.

Standing calf raises on smith machine 5 sets  Abs: Machine crunches 3 sets.  i did 3 sets on the Arm exercises. went for higher reps on the cable exercises.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 01, 2014, 08:53:38 AM
legs

leg press 4 per side ,5,6,7,7 and 25 ..
squats close stance 275/315/315 brutal
extensions 220/235/250 all for 12 then did 205 for 20

hams
stiff legged
135/185/225
legs curls
140/150/155

calves 5 sets seated calf raise

dinner sun eve

I made a nice antipast,salami,sopressata,provolone,olives,tomatoe and mozzarella,
I made an eggplant and zucchini chopped and cooked in garlic/olive oil and then placed over sliced bread and coating mozzarella bake in oven
pumpkin ravioli with butter/sage/nutmeg topping
red wine of course...

dessert mom and husband came over,espresso,almond anisette cookie,gelato 'pistaccio' and salted caramel.espresso and anisette.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on December 01, 2014, 09:13:12 AM
Do you have to be physically or emotionally mature to post in this thread? Or both?  :D :D

Just finished back work out:

Wide Grip pullups supersetted with dumbbell pullovers:4 sets

Barbell rows: 4 sets

Incline dumbell rows: 4 sets

Hammer strength pulldowns: 4 sets

Close grip pulldowns: 4 sets

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 01, 2014, 09:32:47 AM
Do you have to be physically or emotionally mature to post in this thread? Or both?  :D :D

Just finished back work out:

Wide Grip pullups supersetted with dumbbell pullovers:4 sets

Barbell rows: 4 sets

Incline dumbell rows: 4 sets

Hammer strength pulldowns: 4 sets

Close grip pulldowns: 4 sets


40 PLUS ,,UR GOOD DUDE THO,,,SO IF UR 35 OVER EXCEPTION..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on December 01, 2014, 09:38:34 AM
40 PLUS ,,UR GOOD DUDE THO,,,SO IF UR 35 OVER EXCEPTION..

im 33  :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 01, 2014, 09:40:56 AM
im 33  :-\
YOUR A WHIPPERSNAPPER....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on December 01, 2014, 09:45:10 AM
YOUR A WHIPPERSNAPPER....

ha, how old did you think i was? lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 01, 2014, 09:46:10 AM
ha, how old did you think i was? lol
I THOUGHT 35 OR UNDER 30 IF I WAS TO GUESS..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 01, 2014, 10:32:45 AM
maturity is earned through years of experience. No short cuts  ;)

chest...
Incline BB press 4 sets
Incline DB flys sets
Flat DB press 4 sets
Flat Flys 4 sets.

Cardio: 30 mins Hard Interval programme ( crosser)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 02, 2014, 05:21:36 AM
chest
fdb press
60/70/80/85-60 drop
decline press x3
pullovers db 60/70/80
pec deck x3...like these again for a bit.
incline press x3

tris
dip machine x3
overhead rope extensions x3
reverse grip pushdowns x3
hi rep pushdowns finish x3.. 20/20/15 gassed lol..

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 02, 2014, 04:25:36 PM
im 33  :-\

You're a mature guy in my book. It's all about attitude anyway. I know some 70 year olds who are not that mature....me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 03, 2014, 02:04:10 AM
You're a mature guy in my book. It's all about attitude anyway. I know some 70 year olds who are not that mature....me.
you have just kept your humour Jay...

did legs yesterday. was busy when i trained so i did straight sets.

squats 4 sets
seated leg curls 4 sets
Leg press 4 sets
Stiff legged Deadlifts 4 sets
Seated calf raises 5 sets

abs: crunches on floor with leg raises 3 sets per ex. No cardio.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 03, 2014, 08:02:18 PM
reverse hammer pulldown machine x3
bent over rows x3 185-225
row machine chest to pad x3
low cable pulley rows x3 180/210
rope pulls to waist x3

bis
seated curl machine single arm x3
seated db curls back to backrest 35/35/35
2 sets hammer concentration curls 30/35
cable curls x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 04, 2014, 05:13:32 AM
shoulders later..

tri set..
Front raises plate raises 4 sets
Side raises 4 sets
rear delt raises lying on bench 4 sets

standing BB Military press 4 sets
BB shrugs behind back 2 sets
BB upright rows 2 sets

like doing upright rows on back training but decided i will do a simple pre exhaust tonight with shrugs +upright rows. Cardio and abs iīll just do what i feel like.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 04, 2014, 05:47:28 AM
shoulders later..

tri set..
Front raises plate raises 4 sets
Side raises 4 sets
rear delt raises lying on bench 4 sets

standing BB Military press 4 sets
BB shrugs behind back 2 sets
BB upright rows 2 sets

like doing upright rows on back training but decided i will do a simple pre exhaust tonight with shrugs +upright rows. Cardio and abs iīll just do what i feel like.
I could see uprights with back...I always do them when I do them with delts..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 04, 2014, 05:58:52 AM
I could see uprights with back...I always do them when I do them with delts..
i like a fairly close grip.. some use a wider grip for delts but will still hit upper back area.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 04, 2014, 04:41:45 PM
I think I am ready to graduate to a split routine of some type. Yesterday I got about 80% through my workout and realized I'd been there for 90 minutes. I felt more tired than invigorated. It only took me about a month to get to this point, which was faster than I thought I'd progress. Going to hit the gym tomorrow and finish what I didn't get done yesterday. I'll probably start the split next week.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 04, 2014, 08:12:40 PM
delts
fr press
135/155/165/175-135 drop
 trisets'donny special'
raises
front raises
rear bent seated x3 25 lb dbl  sick pump

cableuprights close grip x3

2 sets rear cable raise cable behind back..

shrugs on hammer lying press ,,2 plates x30/3x20/4x15/5x12
db shrugs 85/95

calves x3 10 reps drops 200/180/160/140 burn/pump

forearms
weighted rolls x3
reverse cable wrist curls x3
behind back wrist curls x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 06, 2014, 01:59:29 AM
Arms last night POF style.

Strict BB curls 3 sets
Incline DB curls 3 sets
Concentration curls using low pulley 3 sets

Parallel Bar tricep dips 3 sets
Standing overhead ez bar french press 3 sets
Kickbacks with cable 3 sets

45 mins medium cardio on crosser, seated calf raises 5 sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jr on December 06, 2014, 10:54:43 AM
Since I quit my job yesterday to take an extended break, my new routine will be full body workouts every second day.

In the off days I will either do sprint interval training (10 second sprint, 10 second rest, at least 10 sets) or 30 minute jogging/walking.

The full body workouts will be split into 3 sessions, morning legs, afternoon chest/shoulders/triceps, and evening back/biceps.

Starting off with low volume 1 work set per exercise and increasing the number of sets as the days and weeks progress.

Recovery is foam rolling/tennis ball massage and 10 minute meditation or nap after every training session. Stretching on off days.

Morning session - squats
Afternoon session - bench, lateral raises, dips, overhead extensions
Evening session - deadlifts, rows, chins, curls

Add in extra exercises as needed.

Been eating 1500 calories for the past 3 months and got down to about 10% or so. Increasing calories to 2000 in first week, then to 2500 and monitoring body fat thickness. Maybe increase calories if body fat is still dropping.

Goal is to gain muscle while continuing to slowly lose fat.

500 mg Testosterone Enanthate per week + 25 mg Ostarine per day + peptides.

Will do this routine until early January when I will be going on holidays overseas.

Should be good. Never had this much time to dedicate to training before.




Week 1 Update

Bodyweight: +0.5kg (+1.1lbs)
Bodyfat: Site 1: -0.25mm

Main lifts:

Squat: + 2 reps
Bench: + 2 reps
Deads: +7.5kg (16.5lbs)  Started at a conservative weight.

Next week:

Increase calories from 2000 to 2500 per day
Increase volume from 1 to 2 work sets per exercise
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 06, 2014, 02:00:38 PM
Off lifting day and it's pouring rain here by the Jersey shore. I put on a track suit, hat and drove to the boardwalk. I have to have my head examined. I started to run and it rained sideways. I ran 5 miles and saw only two people the whole run. In a way it was beautiful. I watched the waves crashing through the rain. No one around any where. It felt like an apocalyptic post war/zombie time.  My socks were completely soaked through. It looked like night time by 3 PM. I'm injured like I always seem to be lately and I wanted to quit. I pushed on and finished. I'm limping now around the house but I'm glad I got the cardio in.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: T-REX007 on December 06, 2014, 04:23:54 PM
I am 48 years young, still feeling good !
Shoulders starting to get sore more often though- may have to back off on the weighted dips- again

Today was primarily a bench day - bwt 212

floor presses - warm up sets :

135 x 10
185 x 8
225 x 6
275 x 4

Work sets :

335 x 8 - paused reps
335 x 6 - paused reps
335 x 6 - paused reps

3 Boards - paused reps

275 x 5
315 x 5
365 x 3
405 x 1

Flyes - high reps to finish with

50's x 3 x 15, 60 sec breaks between sets

Wanted to hit some rows but ran out of time as workout took longer than expected - a few ridiculous delays during the workout too too much time, hit back tomorrow
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 06, 2014, 04:40:49 PM
legs

leg press warm sets x2....5 plates per side/6/7/7.5 ..
hack squats 3 plates per..4/5/5.5
walking lunges 80 lbs on back walk x2
extension sets 3x12 reps 205.220/235

lying leg curls 140/150/155
sldl 135/185/225

calves
seated calf raise worked up then down total 8 sets ,,2 plates &25 x20/3 x15/3 &25 x12/4 plates x12...then back down reversed .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 07, 2014, 01:35:22 AM
Off lifting day and it's pouring rain here by the Jersey shore. I put on a track suit, hat and drove to the boardwalk. I have to have my head examined. I started to run and it rained sideways. I ran 5 miles and saw only two people the whole run. In a way it was beautiful. I watched the waves crashed through the rain. No one around any where. It felt like an apocalyptic post war/zombie time.  My socks were completely soaked through. It looked like night time by 3 PM. I'm injured like I always seem to be lately and I wanted to quit. I pushed on and finished. I'm limping now around the house but I'm glad I got the cardio in.
I was running last night and felt a bit of tightness in my right Hamstring and stopped and stretched a bit then carried on but soon it got worse and i really felt it pulling in the Medial hamstrings Tendons (bottom left going onto knee in picture). I just walked the rest of the way. today it feels a bit better, will do some easy stretches. I was tempted to run on i admit that but i just knew it was not a good idea.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 07, 2014, 10:31:49 AM
Donny, walk fast till it heals. It will retain your cardio until you can run again.  I did this after an injury and I was surprised how little I lost. I'm sure if I did nothing cardio wise I would have a lot to regain.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2014, 11:06:26 AM
Off lifting day and it's pouring rain here by the Jersey shore. I put on a track suit, hat and drove to the boardwalk. I have to have my head examined. I started to run and it rained sideways. I ran 5 miles and saw only two people the whole run. In a way it was beautiful. I watched the waves crashing through the rain. No one around any where. It felt like an apocalyptic post war/zombie time.  My socks were completely soaked through. It looked like night time by 3 PM. I'm injured like I always seem to be lately and I wanted to quit. I pushed on and finished. I'm limping now around the house but I'm glad I got the cardio in.

No one better ever say you aren't dedicated to staying fit, because you are one of the most committed folks I know of. It is supposed to rain again there next Tuesday and there is about a 60% chance that it will rain tomorrow. Do you stay warm enough wearing just a track suit when it is in the low to mid 40's out? Is it sunny today? -Probably too soon to run again, huh?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2014, 11:08:36 AM
I am 48 years young, still feeling good !
Shoulders starting to get sore more often though- may have to back off on the weighted dips- again

Today was primarily a bench day - bwt 212

floor presses - warm up sets :

135 x 10
185 x 8
225 x 6
275 x 4

Work sets :

335 x 8 - paused reps
335 x 6 - paused reps
335 x 6 - paused reps

3 Boards - paused reps

275 x 5
315 x 5
365 x 3
405 x 1

Flyes - high reps to finish with

50's x 3 x 15, 60 sec breaks between sets

Wanted to hit some rows but ran out of time as workout took longer than expected - a few ridiculous delays during the workout too too much time, hit back tomorrow

You lift some heavy weight. Pretty impressive, I must say.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 07, 2014, 05:35:23 PM
yard work bags/leaves 2nd round almost 20 bags :-\,,,decorated for holidays too :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 07, 2014, 05:58:11 PM
No one better ever say you aren't dedicated to staying fit, because you are one of the most committed folks I know of. It is supposed to rain again there next Tuesday and there is about a 60% chance that it will rain tomorrow. Do you stay warm enough wearing just a track suit when it is in the low to mid 40's out? Is it sunny today? -Probably too soon to run again, huh?

It wasn't that cold. Maybe about 48 degrees if I remember. I wore a turtle neck thermal. An insulated nylon track top and nylon bottoms. I had a fisherman type skull cap knit hat. It wasn't water proof but water resistant and  it helped tremendously. Brought gloves but they weren't needed. Today I did my "speed" work on a treadmill doing 8 x 440 yard repeats. Tomorrow is a lifting day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 08, 2014, 03:44:25 AM
Donny, walk fast till it heals. It will retain your cardio until you can run again.  I did this after an injury and I was surprised how little I lost. I'm sure if I did nothing cardio wise I would have a lot to regain.

feels much better today. did some stretches yesterday. My own fault really for not stretching before going running, although i am normally flexible and nimble and donīt have problems. Nothing serious. Actually fast walking is quite enjoyable and really works other muscles. I saw a report one time about walking and running. There was a Professor who was an ex Runner and switched over to walking due to injuries sustained over the years. He really went into the Human Kinetics saying walking is what we are made to do and for very long periods.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 08, 2014, 05:51:27 AM
Off lifting day and it's pouring rain here by the Jersey shore. I put on a track suit, hat and drove to the boardwalk. I have to have my head examined. I started to run and it rained sideways. I ran 5 miles and saw only two people the whole run. In a way it was beautiful. I watched the waves crashing through the rain. No one around any where. It felt like an apocalyptic post war/zombie time.  My socks were completely soaked through. It looked like night time by 3 PM. I'm injured like I always seem to be lately and I wanted to quit. I pushed on and finished. I'm limping now around the house but I'm glad I got the cardio in.

When I saw that picture, I was thinking about a scene with Freddy Krueger behind one of those doors..
Glad you're still OK ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: T-REX007 on December 08, 2014, 02:06:46 PM
Legs

Squats - 365 x 5 x 5 - work sets , 3 min breaks between sets
hams work - 3 x 20 -went pretty light
calves - standing - 4x 20

Light bi's -
Concentration curls - 3 x 15 @ 40's
preachers - 3 x 12 @ 85 #

Bike - 10 min pretty brisk pace
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 09, 2014, 03:45:40 AM
Chest last night ..

Incline BB press 4 sets
Machine press 4 sets
Decline BB press 4 sets
Cable crossovers 3 sets

Changed it around a bit really concentrating on pressing. Throwing some machine presses in there and high rep cable crossovers at the end which i rarely do and am sore today.. ;D Cardio i did for 30 mins on a fairly easy programme. Hammies felt fine( always think of Monty when i write Hammies.. ;D)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 09, 2014, 06:15:18 AM
chest /tri/abs...training bit heavier,,upping my warm up set poundages to heavier start wghts,its working ,,working sets reps are going up

example,,i was doing 60/70/80/85 as working sets chest going 12/10/8-10/6 ,,last few wks tweaking it..

last nite 60-15...then worked right to 75's x10/85x8/90x5/dropped 80's x8..
decline press x3
pullover dbell x3 60-75 I usually do 12 reps/stretch
pec deck this moves like a flye version handles and arms loop,,i like hi reps here 15
hammer press seated x2 2 plates and 2 plate and 25

tris
rope extensions x4
reverse grip pushowns x3
dip machine x3
pushdowns finish 20 rep sets x2

abs..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 09, 2014, 06:33:59 AM
chest /tri/abs...training bit heavier,,upping my warm up set poundages to heavier start wghts,its working ,,working sets reps are going up

example,,i was doing 60/70/80/85 as working sets chest going 12/10/8-10/6 ,,last few wks tweaking it..

last nite 60-15...then worked right to 75's x10/85x8/90x5/dropped 80's x8..
decline press x3
pullover dbell x3 60-75 I usually do 12 reps/stretch
pec deck this moves like a flye version handles and arms loop,,i like hi reps here 15
hammer press seated x2 2 plates and 2 plate and 25

tris
rope extensions x4
reverse grip pushowns x3
dip machine x3
pushdowns finish 20 rep sets x2

abs..
If your warm up sets are heavier and it works and you are getting stronger on your work sets...Jackpot  ;D pullovers i must admit i like more for lats but i donīt do it side ways on a bench. i lye on a flat bench and tend to use a bar or ez bar more. Dumbbell pullover i like too but not done it in a while. I think Steve you would get even better results from a 5 day split. Although a 4 day split works for you !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 09, 2014, 06:36:53 AM
If your warm up sets are heavier and it works and you are getting stronger on your work sets...Jackpot  ;D pullovers i must admit i like more for lats but i donīt do it side ways on a bench. i lye on a flat bench and tend to use a bar or ez bar more. Dumbbell pullover i like too but not done it in a while. I think Steve you would get even better results from a 5 day split. Although a 4 day split works for you !
YES AND WE SPOKE ON THIS ..5TH DAY ARMS....I SHOULD AT HOME PERIOD,,I HAVE ENOUGH FOR IT...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 09, 2014, 06:57:38 AM
YES AND WE SPOKE ON THIS ..5TH DAY ARMS....I SHOULD AT HOME PERIOD,,I HAVE ENOUGH FOR IT...
yes i know we did but at Home you have lots to do because your wife works shifts. I can fully understand this. Still if you could do it i think you would get even better like a malt whisky  ;D could really concentrate on each muscle group. I really like a 5 day split because i can also do cardio as well. I need both. A hard 60 min workout then cardio i like. 2-3 muscle groups for me is too much with nearly daily cardio. End of the Day you look great anyway on your split, if it aint broke why fix it ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 09, 2014, 07:31:00 AM
yes i know we did but at Home you have lots to do because your wife works shifts. I can fully understand this. Still if you could do it i think you would get even better like a malt whisky  ;D could really concentrate on each muscle group. I really like a 5 day split because i can also do cardio as well. I need both. A hard 60 min workout then cardio i like. 2-3 muscle groups for me is too much with nearly daily cardio. End of the Day you look great anyway on your split, if it aint broke why fix it ?
I AGREE..ITS STILL WORKING BUT ALWAYS THINKING.....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 09, 2014, 07:42:53 AM
I AGREE..ITS STILL WORKING BUT ALWAYS THINKING.....
An intelligent man is always looking for a way to improve.  Simple things still work too but advanced trainers need more variety. A simple change nothing Dramatic..like i did in my chest workout. Cable crossovers..not a big fan of cable work but ,,hey it stimulated different.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 09, 2014, 08:14:06 AM
An intelligent man is always looking for a way to improve.  Simple things still work too but advanced trainers need more variety. A simple change nothing Dramatic..like i did in my chest workout. Cable crossovers..not a big fan of cable work but ,,hey it stimulated different.
YEAH,,,I DO CABLES FOR A STRETCH NOW PEC DECK...IF MY KIDS WERE OLDER AND WIFE HAD NORMAL WORK SCHEDULE IT WOULD BE ALL ALIGHNED ,,BUT CONSIDERING IT ALL ,,I STILL TRAIN HARD/EAT WELL NO ISSUES...SHE WOULD BE UPSET IF I TRAINED 5/6 DAYS ITS NOT FEASIBLE FOR MARRIAGE/KIDS TIME...THATS WHY I HAVE A GOOD BASE HOME GYM TO DO EXTRA SNEAK WORKOUTS  ;).. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 09, 2014, 08:16:25 AM
YEAH,,,I DO CABLES FOR A STRETCH NOW PEC DECK...IF MY KIDS WERE OLDER AND WIFE HAD NORMAL WORK SCHEDULE IT WOULD BE ALL ALIGHNED ,,BUT CONSIDERING IT ALL ,,I STILL TRAIN HARD/EAT WELL NO ISSUES...SHE WOULD BE UPSET IF I TRAINED 5/6 DAYS ITS NOT FEASIBLE FOR MARRIAGE/KIDS TIME...THATS WHY I HAVE A GOOD BASE HOME GYM TO DO EXTRA SNEAK WORKOUTS  ;).. ;D
I think you have found your Harmony
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 09, 2014, 08:38:52 AM
I think you have found your Harmony
LOL...MAYBE,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 09, 2014, 08:44:59 AM
LOL...MAYBE,,
I think so Family is important. Got your balance.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 09, 2014, 08:56:37 AM
I think so Family is important. Got your balance.
Your Family is important in your well being..i think i had a positive effect on my Family ..both my sons work out and my wife does too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 09, 2014, 08:58:52 AM
Your Family is important in your well being..i think i had a positive effect on my Family ..both my sons work out and my wife does too.
that's great man,,,my son is 15 months old now,,pics up some heavy stuff  ;D,bends at knee lifts then throws to ground ,,I am used to girls ,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 09, 2014, 09:04:38 AM
that's great man,,,my son is 15 months old now,,pics up some heavy stuff  ;D,bends at knee lifts then throws to ground ,,I am used to girls ,,
As long as you have a Son to look after the Girls .. ;D Steve to be honest as a Father if i had a Daughter ..i think her first Boyfriend would get a hard time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 09, 2014, 07:53:57 PM
eating a bit more carbs,,a bit more fullness and with training heavier winter time maybe some added gains ,like to get to 200 lbs but i'm used to 'abs and lean 'look now ,,and strenght wise added bodyweight sometimes means little returns especially if your lethargic from trying to eat up..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2014, 01:48:23 AM
eating a bit more carbs,,a bit more fullness and with training heavier winter time maybe some added gains ,like to get to 200 lbs but i'm used to 'abs and lean 'look now ,,and strenght wise added bodyweight sometimes means little returns especially if your lethargic from trying to eat up..
I like the shorts Steve..reminds me of a pair of Tartan Y-Fronts i had years ago.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 10, 2014, 04:50:26 AM
I like the shorts Steve..reminds me of a pair of Tartan Y-Fronts i had years ago.. ;D
pants actually its freezing here... :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2014, 07:36:03 AM
Last night i did legs but just took it easy only doing 3 exercises because of my Hammie..

I left out stiff deads and did Leg curls which was ok. Did 5 sets of 15 reps back to back superset style with leg extensions. Still a degree of stretch with leg curls when lowering legs at the bottom position so i did 3/4 reps and avoided the bottom stretch as much as possible. no probs today.

Leg extensions 5x15 Superset with
Leg curls 5x15

Seated leg press 5x10
seated calf raises 5 sets 15-20

Abs Bench leg raises superset with crunches. 3 sets to failure did not count reps.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 10, 2014, 08:22:32 AM
Last night i did legs but just took it easy only doing 3 exercises because of my Hammie..

I left out stiff deads and did Leg curls which was ok. Did 5 sets of 15 reps back to back superset style with leg extensions. Still a degree of stretch with leg curls when lowering legs at the bottom position so i did 3/4 reps and avoided the bottom stretch as much as possible. no probs today.

Leg extensions 5x15 Superset with
Leg curls 5x15

Seated leg press 5x10
seated calf raises 5 sets 15-20

Abs Bench leg raises superset with crunches. 3 sets to failure did not count reps.


NICE,,,WHAT HAPPENED TO HAMMY..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2014, 09:47:13 AM
NICE,,,WHAT HAPPENED TO HAMMY..
running I pulled it a bit, still the lying leg curls were OK. Just didn't lower legs all the way down
On the extended position if ya know what I mean... Lol don't think it would have made much difference if I did seated leg curls or lying.... Good old hammies  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 11, 2014, 05:18:14 AM
My Back workout last night was ..

Wide Grip pulldowns 4 sets
Close grip pulldowwns 4 sets
Wide Grip seated cable rows brining bar to upper Ab area 4 sets
One arm DB Rows 4 sets
Did some Partial range Hypers(no weight) for 3 sets and it felt good. Will return to Stiff Deads next week.

No cardio because i did not have time. Tonight i will do shoulders and some trap work.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 11, 2014, 05:22:30 AM
My Back workout last night was ..

Wide Grip pulldowns 4 sets
Close grip pulldowwns 4 sets
Wide Grip seated cable rows brining bar to upper Ab area 4 sets
One arm DB Rows 4 sets
Did some Partial range Hypers(no weight) for 3 sets and it felt good. Will return to Stiff Deads next week.

No cardio because i did not have time. Tonight i will do shoulders and some trap work.
good,,i do shoulders day after back too...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 11, 2014, 12:19:10 PM
On Tuesday I worked my back and abs. The first set is a warm up set. The remaining sets are "work" sets. I am keeping the resistance pretty light still just to see how this routine goes. Both workouts took exactly 45 minutes each. The routine calls for working out on Tuesday - Thursday plus Saturday and Sunday. -Kind of weird, but since I'm retired one day is the same as another, so working out on the weekends should be fine. I'll probably add in some cardio after a bit. Tomorrow I work arms, Saturday chest and Sunday legs.

My knee is giving me a little trouble. I probably stepped wrong or I did something when doing toe touches the other day. My back is fine. The toe touches help with sciatica.

Pull ups, 5 sets of 12-6 reps
Low row on Hammer Strength, 4 sets of 12-6 reps
Bench rows on Hammer Strength, 4 sets of 12-6 reps
Back raises, 4 sets of 20-12
Nautilus crunches, 4 sets of 15-12

On Wednesday I worked shoulders and calves.

Seated front press, 5 sets of 12-5
Side lateral raise, 4  sets of 12-6
Incline rear lateral raise, 4 sets of 12-6
Shrugs, 4 sets of 12-6
Seated calf raises, 5 sets of 20-15






Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on December 11, 2014, 03:20:59 PM
I worked back today. I really enjoy doing dumbbell pullovers, so I supersetted them with every exercise. I am not too sure why lol. I just kept doing it lol. I guess I was bored and had nowhere to go today, so spent more time in the gym.

Wide grip pullups superset with pullovers
Barbell rows superset with pullovers
Incline dumbbell rows superset with pullovers
Hammer strength rows superset with pullovers
Low cable rows superset with pullovers.

Everything 4 sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 11, 2014, 07:14:02 PM
cforgot to post back day
bi's

wed eve

tbar row wide grip'pad to chest eleveated version'worked up to 3 45's
seated row machine again chest rest to pad 'weight stack type '175/190/195
pulldowns behind neck x3
hammer strenght reverse pulldowns single handle x3 2 plates and 2 sets added some 10's'loose change'
finished rope pulldowns to waiste standing x3

weighted hypers sets 15 x3

bi's
barbell curls x4 85/105/115/95
seated padded curl machine single arm x3
inc db curls 30/35/35
2 sets cable curls on top hooks pulled in like a front bi pose


abs 5 sets 30 crunch machine roller


thurs delts

db presses 50/60/65/65-55 drop

triset 'donny style love theses
side laterals
front raise
rear bent raise x3 used 20's the 2 sets 25 db,,burn like hell...

cable uprights x3
2 sets finish behind back cable raises

traps
shrugs 225/275/295 all 12 or more reps
2 sets reverse machine shrug 3 45's per side and 4,,again 12 reps

forarms rope rolls x4

calves 3 sets of standing calf raises 10 rep drops 200/180/160/140 brutal
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 12, 2014, 08:06:53 AM
cforgot to post back day
bi's

wed eve

tbar row wide grip'pad to chest eleveated version'worked up to 3 45's
seated row machine again chest rest to pad 'weight stack type '175/190/195
pulldowns behind neck x3
hammer strenght reverse pulldowns single handle x3 2 plates and 2 sets added some 10's'loose change'
finished rope pulldowns to waiste standing x3

weighted hypers sets 15 x3

bi's
barbell curls x4 85/105/115/95
seated padded curl machine single arm x3
inc db curls 30/35/35
2 sets cable curls on top hooks pulled in like a front bi pose


abs 5 sets 30 crunch machine roller


thurs delts

db presses 50/60/65/65-55 drop

triset 'donny style love theses
side laterals
front raise
rear bent raise x3 used 20's the 2 sets 25 db,,burn like hell...

cable uprights x3
2 sets finish behind back cable raises

traps
shrugs 225/275/295 all 12 or more reps
2 sets reverse machine shrug 3 45's per side and 4,,again 12 reps

forarms rope rolls x4

calves 3 sets of standing calf raises 10 rep drops 200/180/160/140 brutal

Nice ! I did a Tri set last Night too..

Plate front raises 4 sets
Wide grip BB upright rows 4 sets
Bent over laterals 4 sets

Seated DB press 4 sets
DB shrugs 3 sets

I prefer pressing now after my laterals. Wide Grip upright rows were for a change and work well.

Today Arms.. i was thinking of doing BB curls when i just changed to Drag curls.

BB Drag Curls 3 sets
2 arm DB preacher curls 3 sets
Cable Reverse curls using a straight bar 3 sets

EZ Bar pull over and press 3 sets
standing BB french press 3 sets
1 arm reverse grip push downs 3 sets
Inner and outer lower arms got a good bit of stimulation too using diffrent grips. The Drag curls i liked really hits Biceps.

Cardio today was outside going for a Bike ride,  was raining and the wind was always against me...still got me sweating ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 12, 2014, 11:37:07 AM
Yesterday, I worked arms.

Triceps press-downs 5 X 12-5
Dips 4 X 12-6
Seated triceps extensions 4 X 12-6
EZ bar curls 5 X 12-6
Alternate db curls 4 x 12-6
Hammer curls 4 X 12-6
Wrist curls 4 X 12-6

Today is a rest day....may do some cardio stuff.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 12, 2014, 12:11:04 PM
Yesterday, I worked arms.

Triceps press-downs 5 X 12-5
Dips 4 X 12-6
Seated triceps extensions 4 X 12-6
EZ bar curls 5 X 12-6
Alternate db curls 4 x 12-6
Hammer curls 4 X 12-6
Wrist curls 4 X 12-6

Today is a rest day....may do some cardio stuff.
I take it Jay the Tri Pushdowns were a warm up for dips ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 12, 2014, 03:10:37 PM
I take it Jay the Tri Pushdowns were a warm up for dips ?

Actually with this routine the first two sets of the triceps push-downs are warm-ups. Each exercise has at least one warm-up set which is usually 12 reps and then 3 or 4 work sets with obviously heavier resistance. One is supposed to rest 120 seconds between sets, which at this point is too long for me. I can barely make it 60 seconds before hitting the next set. Squats and other heavy leg exercises might be a different story since I tend to get out of breath despite breathing carefully throughout the exercise. It's a problem asthmatics and folks who have other breathing issues like me deal with. I'm used to it.

I did the dips using a Nautilus dip machine. The advantage is you can be very precise with the resistance and form. In this machine, you are sitting, so body weight does not factor in. There is no "rocking" when you do them correctly and the muscle groups worked are very specific. The gym also has a Nautilus dip and pullup machine where you kneel on a pad. The weight stack acts as a counter balance to body weight. I'll be using both machines for variety. Eventually, if I decide to go heavy, I'll be adding weight in the traditional way with a belt and plates. This is a long ways off. I am taking things slow and easy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 13, 2014, 01:43:31 AM
Actually with this routine the first two sets of the triceps push-downs are warm-ups. Each exercise has at least one warm-up set which is usually 12 reps and then 3 or 4 work sets with obviously heavier resistance. One is supposed to rest 120 seconds between sets, which at this point is too long for me. I can barely make it 60 seconds before hitting the next set. Squats and other heavy leg exercises might be a different story since I tend to get out of breath despite breathing carefully throughout the exercise. It's a problem asthmatics and folks who have other breathing issues like me deal with. I'm used to it.

I did the dips using a Nautilus dip machine. The advantage is you can be very precise with the resistance and form. In this machine, you are sitting, so body weight does not factor in. There is no "rocking" when you do them correctly and the muscle groups worked are very specific. The gym also has a Nautilus dip and pullup machine where you kneel on a pad. The weight stack acts as a counter balance to body weight. I'll be using both machines for variety. Eventually, if I decide to go heavy, I'll be adding weight in the traditional way with a belt and plates. This is a long ways off. I am taking things slow and easy.
sounds like you have a good plan going there.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jr on December 13, 2014, 11:25:17 AM

Fullbody Every Two Days Routine

Week 1 Update

Bodyweight: +0.5kg (1.1lbs)
Bodyfat: Site 1: -0.25mm

Main lifts:

Squat: + 2 reps
Bench: + 2 reps
Deads: +7.5kg (16.5lbs)  Started at a conservative weight.

Next week:

Increase calories from 2000 to 2500 per day
Increase volume from 1 to 2 work sets per exercise


Fullbody Every Two Days Routine

Week 2 Update

Bodyweight: +2kg (4.4lbs)    Overall: +2.5kg (5.5lbs)
Bodyfat: Site 1: No change (Maybe slight drop)     Overall: -0.25mm

Main lifts:

Squat: +7.5kg (16.5 lbs)  Overall: +7.5kg (16.5lbs)
Bench: +2 reps    Overall: +4 reps
Chins: +3.75 kg (8.25lbs)  Overall: +5 kg (11.lbs)

Not reporting deadlifts anymore as gains too easy due to conservative starting weight.

No cardio this week due to foot pain problems


Next week:

Keep calories and volume the same as last week due to making gains.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 14, 2014, 03:16:38 AM
Well the Christmas market is on here so I'll go for a look around later.  Not too cold outside and after dinner a bit of fresh air will do me good. Wife loves the market here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 14, 2014, 07:09:57 PM
legs heavy'duty

legs press warmed 2 plates per side,,,then 4/5/6/7,,12/12/10/10

squats close stance 225/275/315/365 8)

walking lunges dbell heavier 60 lbs instead 50's x2

extensions 205/250 all 12 reps

hams
sldl 135/185/225/245
lying legs curls 140/155/165

calves
seated calf raises x4 2.5 plates /3/3.5/3.5
standing calf raise 200 on stack x2 sets 12

part of our tree...cats and little boy are getting at it..i'm a fanatic i keep rederecting ornaments..drives me nuts..lol..



Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 15, 2014, 02:20:34 AM
legs heavy'duty

legs press warmed 2 plates per side,,,then 4/5/6/7,,12/12/10/10

squats close stance 225/275/315/365 8)

walking lunges dbell heavier 60 lbs instead 50's x2

extensions 205/250 all 12 reps

hams
sldl 135/185/225/245
lying legs curls 140/155/165

calves
seated calf raises x4 2.5 plates /3/3.5/3.5
standing calf raise 200 on stack x2 sets 12

part of our tree...cats and little boy are getting at it..i'm a fanatic i keep rederecting ornaments..drives me nuts..lol..




Nice Tree...  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 15, 2014, 06:46:57 AM
Nice Tree...  ;D

WE GET GREAT TREES EVERY YR,,THIS ONE IS DECENT HAS A FEW BRANCHES OFF TRACK THAN USUAL...ITS STILL DECORATED AND LIT UP NICELY..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 15, 2014, 10:04:47 AM

WE GET GREAT TREES EVERY YR,,THIS ONE IS DECENT HAS A FEW BRANCHES OFF TRACK THAN USUAL...ITS STILL DECORATED AND LIT UP NICELY..
Just go in the woods with an axe... :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 15, 2014, 10:11:55 AM
Did a Diffrent chest workout today with some Body weight stuff. Just felt like it :)

Incline BB press 4 sets
incline flys 4 sets
Push up Bar push ups 4 sets max Superset with Flat Flys
Triceps/chest Dips between 2 Benches 3 x max

went for a cycle for cardio.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: T-REX007 on December 15, 2014, 04:52:13 PM
Starting to train for a local bench press meet- fundraiser to raise some cash for some new equipment at a local high school, have until first weekend in February to get ready

The judging will be TNG, other than that it's pretty much competition rules - feet flat, head down, no arch ....

Bwt - 212

Dead presses - chest level in rack

135 x 5 singles
185 x 5 singles
225 x 5 singles
275 x 5 singles
315 x 3 singles
365 x 1
405 x 1

Floor presses -

225 x 5
250 x 5
275 x5
300 x 5
325 x 5

Flyes - 50's x 3 x 15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 15, 2014, 07:52:32 PM
chest

fdb press..60/75/80/85
inc db ,,60/70/70
decline press x4
pec deck x3
dips x2x20

tris
close grip bench superset with overhead rope extensions x3
reverse pushdowns
x3
lying db extensions x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 16, 2014, 04:36:36 AM
Legs this morning.

squats 4 sets
Seated leg 4 curls sets
Seated leg press 4 sets
Stiff legged Deadlifts 4 sets
Smith machine standing calf raises 5 sets
Abs: machine crunches 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 16, 2014, 05:28:09 AM
Legs this morning.

squats 4 sets
Seated leg 4 curls sets
Seated leg press 4 sets
Stiff legged Deadlifts 4 sets
Smith machine standing calf raises 5 sets
Abs: machine crunches 3 sets

standing smith on wood block calf raises ..burn..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 16, 2014, 05:30:01 AM
standing smith on wood block calf raises ..burn..
Donīt have a wood Block so i use a Reebok step board... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 16, 2014, 05:32:51 AM
Donīt have a wood Block so i use a Reebok step board... ;D
that too,jane fonda :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 16, 2014, 05:36:54 AM
that too,jane fonda :D
quite useful too when you have a short person who does not fit in a machine due to short legs. i use it a fair bit for mainly women on the seated Bench press machines.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 16, 2014, 11:02:53 AM
legs heavy'duty

legs press warmed 2 plates per side,,,then 4/5/6/7,,12/12/10/10

squats close stance 225/275/315/365 8)

walking lunges dbell heavier 60 lbs instead 50's x2

extensions 205/250 all 12 reps

hams
sldl 135/185/225/245
lying legs curls 140/155/165

calves
seated calf raises x4 2.5 plates /3/3.5/3.5
standing calf raise 200 on stack x2 sets 12

part of our tree...cats and little boy are getting at it..i'm a fanatic i keep rederecting ornaments..drives me nuts..lol..





Beautiful tree, Steve. Ours in still in a box up in the attic. We are trying to decide whether to put our tree or our daughter's tree up. Both of them are fake trees. Pretty funny huh? We live in the land of trees and we have two fake trees.

Our son-in-law brought down all the decorations from the attic. They are still in the Rubbermaid tubs on the dining room table and the floor around it. We have way to many decorations.

I need to snap into the Christmas mood pretty quick. We'd planned to put the tree up on the 13th....Twelve days of Christmas and all that.


I worked Chest on Saturday.

Incline bench press, 5 X 12 - 8
Flat bench press, 4 X 12 - 8
Decline bench press, 4 X 12 - 8
Pullovers on Nautilus, 4 X 12 - 8

Missed getting to the gym on Sunday because we went to a friend's open house.

Worked legs on Monday.

Leg press, 5 X 20 - 8
Hack squats, 4 X 12
Leg extensions, 4 X 15 - 12
Leg curls, 5 X 12 - 8
Reverse hack squats, 4 X 12 - 8
Seated calf raises, 5 X 20 - 15
Standing calf raises, 4 X 20 - 15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 16, 2014, 11:10:23 AM
Great to hear from you Jay  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 16, 2014, 11:12:17 AM
Great to hear from you Jay  :)
IT IS.....NICE WORKOUT HE MUST BE SORE  :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 16, 2014, 11:14:19 AM
IT IS.....NICE WORKOUT HE MUST BE SORE  :P
Great shape ... he is our wise Owl
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 16, 2014, 11:22:20 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 16, 2014, 12:49:09 PM
IT IS.....NICE WORKOUT HE MUST BE SORE  :P

Yup! I awoke with some mean "Charlie horses" last night. -Drinking tons of water today to help with this.

Remember, I am not using much resistance. I went especially easy on the resistance because my knee is acting up. It actually felt a little better following the workout. I'm wearing a knee brace today for good measure. All those reps of calf raises caused me to experience some shin splints for the first time. They were painful but short lived.

I feel like I didn't do enough for chest, but my pecs are mildly sore so that's a good sign.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 16, 2014, 12:54:17 PM
Great shape ... he is our wise Owl

Interestingly enough, I just found out that Stephen Hawking is a relative by marriage. His mom is my late aunt's sister. -Pretty wild. The things you learn from those Christmas letters. No wonder my cousin David is so smart.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 17, 2014, 06:22:31 AM
This should be titled rant for the day.  ;D

I've been neglecting putting my workouts on this thread. I do have this thought watching people in the gym and especially a friend of mine. Why do so many guys look for the easiest way to perform an exercise? If you are looking to work the muscle wouldn't you find the hardest way to make the muscle work for adaptation?

Using my friend as an example. He's proud of his huge bench number. Over 400lbs at under 180lbs body weight. He uses every trick in the book.  First he arches in the most ridiculous way so the top of his belly is sky high. He touches his sky high belly with the bar. He also takes a wide grip. He puts on one of those bench shirt but brags it not the good kind they use in competition. When he benches the bar barely moves. Never measured it but I bet it barely travels over 12". It's like that with all exercises. Cut the range of motion to handle the heavy ego weights.

Maybe I'm in the minority but I try to make the exercise hard to actually make the muscle stronger and not my ego. An example of this is pull ups. It means going to a dead drop in pullups and pulling all the way up till my elbows are completely down. Ten pull ups like that are worth more than 25 of these slop things I see in the gym.

Hearing what guys use as weight in bodybuilding is just about worthless unless you see the performance. How many guys say they use 405 in squats then you watch them and they barely bend their legs. They are also delusional about how deep they go. Put 225lbs on the bar and sink it like an Olympic lifter instead of doing what isn't even half squats.

Enough of the rant.  It's just that bodybuilding attracts insecure people who prop up their ego by delusion-ally lying to them self about how strong they are. That's why I like Olympic lifting. Can you lift this weight over head or not? I don't want to hear a verbal explanation of why you can't. Can you do it?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 17, 2014, 06:28:23 AM
This should be titled rant for the day.  ;D

I've been neglecting putting my workouts on this thread. I do have this thought watching people in the gym and especially a friend of mine. Why do so many guys look for the easiest way to perform an exercise? If you are looking to work the muscle wouldn't you find the hardest way to make the muscle work for adaptation?

Using my friend as an example. He's proud of his huge bench number. Over 400lbs at under 180lbs body weight. He uses every trick in the book.  First he arches in the most ridiculous way so the top of his belly is sky high. He touches his sky high belly with the bar. He also takes a wide grip. He puts on one of those bench shirt but brags it not the good kind they use in competition. When he benches the bar barely moves. Never measured it but I bet it barely travels over 12". It's like that with all exercises. Cut the range of motion to handle the heavy ego weights.

Maybe I'm in the minority but I try to make the exercise hard to actually make the muscle stronger and not my ego. An example of this is pull ups. It means going to a dead drop in pullups and pulling all the way up till my elbows are completely down. Ten pull ups like that are worth more than 25 of these slop things I see in the gym.

Hearing what guys use as weight in bodybuilding is just about worthless unless you see the performance. How many guys say they use 405 in squats then you watch them and they barely bend their legs. They are also delusional about how deep they go. Put 225lbs on the bar and sink it like an Olympic lifter instead of doing what isn't even half squats.

Enough of the rant.  It's just that bodybuilding attracts insecure people who prop up their ego by delusion-ally lying to them self about how strong they are. That's why I like Olympic lifting. Can you lift this weight over head or not? I don't want to hear a verbal explanation of why you can't. Can you do it?
you having a Bad Day Rich... ;D but very true.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 17, 2014, 12:25:05 PM
This should be titled rant for the day.  ;D

I've been neglecting putting my workouts on this thread. I do have this thought watching people in the gym and especially a friend of mine. Why do so many guys look for the easiest way to perform an exercise? If you are looking to work the muscle wouldn't you find the hardest way to make the muscle work for adaptation?

Using my friend as an example. He's proud of his huge bench number. Over 400lbs at under 180lbs body weight. He uses every trick in the book.  First he arches in the most ridiculous way so the top of his belly is sky high. He touches his sky high belly with the bar. He also takes a wide grip. He puts on one of those bench shirt but brags it not the good kind they use in competition. When he benches the bar barely moves. Never measured it but I bet it barely travels over 12". It's like that with all exercises. Cut the range of motion to handle the heavy ego weights.

Maybe I'm in the minority but I try to make the exercise hard to actually make the muscle stronger and not my ego. An example of this is pull ups. It means going to a dead drop in pullups and pulling all the way up till my elbows are completely down. Ten pull ups like that are worth more than 25 of these slop things I see in the gym.

Hearing what guys use as weight in bodybuilding is just about worthless unless you see the performance. How many guys say they use 405 in squats then you watch them and they barely bend their legs. They are also delusional about how deep they go. Put 225lbs on the bar and sink it like an Olympic lifter instead of doing what isn't even half squats.

Enough of the rant.  It's just that bodybuilding attracts insecure people who prop up their ego by delusion-ally lying to them self about how strong they are. That's why I like Olympic lifting. Can you lift this weight over head or not? I don't want to hear a verbal explanation of why you can't. Can you do it?

There is a difference between exercising with ease and using bad form. What you are describing is mainly bad form and using crutches that can be habit forming instead of assisting them in their maximum lift. Weight belts are a great example of this. You often see folks wearing them throughout their routine. Most people don't need the assistance of a weight belt for every lift particularly not lifts that are challenging in terms of resistance.

It has not been my goal to be the strongest person in the gym. Power lifting is not my sport; bodybuilding is. It fascinates me how much you can achieve using good form and modest resistance when lifting for bodybuilding. Did you know that when doing Nautilus crunches you should keep your head straight or look slightly towards the ceiling as opposed to looking down towards your stomach? Although I never paid attention to what I did with my head position when doing crunches, I am now, since I heard this and it feels really good. What position do you think is best when doing cable triceps push downs? Is is better to bend forward at the waist, positioning yourself over the bar or is it preferable to bend your knees slightly, keeping your back relatively straight? I bend and the knees instead of at the waist. Most folks seem to bend at the waist.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 18, 2014, 02:08:55 AM
Back workout last night...

Front chins 4 sets
Close grip pulldowns 4 sets
machine rows wide grip 4 sets
ez bar bent arm pullovers 3 sets
medium Grip High pulls 3 sets

i decided to experiment with some Barbell High pulls. I felt it on my upper back. A good change from upright rows. Cardio was running outside about 45 mins.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 18, 2014, 05:00:43 AM
daughter started to play basketball got home from work in time change rush and take her :P,,got home ran to gym had 45 min to get done

back /bi..

trisets worked out good
tbar row chest to pad /reverse hammer pulldowns/low cable rows...x3..too bored to post weights used still pretty damn heavy considering ..trisets
superset behind neck pulldowns with 1 arm dumbbell rows used 90's x3..

bis ..trisets
premade barbell curls 70/80/80,,with rope hammers curls cable,and seated db curls 30's.x2
finished 2 sets 30/35 dbells concentration curls on knee,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 18, 2014, 05:20:50 AM
daughter started to play basketball got home from work in time change rush and take her :P,,got home ran to gym had 45 min to get done

back /bi..

trisets worked out good
tbar row chest to pad /reverse hammer pulldowns/low cable rows...x3..too bored to post weights used still pretty damn heavy considering ..trisets
superset behind neck pulldowns with 1 arm dumbbell rows used 90's x3..

bis ..trisets
premade barbell curls 70/80/80,,with rope hammers curls cable,and seated db curls 30's.x2
finished 2 sets 30/35 dbells concentration curls on knee,,
Job Done...Good Drills Steve !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 18, 2014, 05:32:01 AM
Tuesday Night i had a bit of a Drama at home. About 10 pm here my power went out.. did the normal fault finding stuff you do but could not find the problem. So Wednesday morning i had an Electrician here. Found out a plug socket in my Bedroom was the problem. A couple of wires were burned .. I thought i smelled something ... :o but did not see anything. Had to open a bit of the wall but not so bad as itīs like a round capped area made to open was going to Decorate soon anyway...as the wallpaper he cut away. Good job i still had my phone for getbig... :D ;D   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 19, 2014, 09:05:36 AM
Arms Today..

Lying ez bar extensions 3 sets Superset with Barbell curls 3 sets
seated single DB extensions 3 sets  Superset with DB incline Curls 3 sets
Reverse Grip cable pressdowns 3 sets  Superset with DB concentration curls 3 sets

Forearms: EZ Bar reverse curls 2 sets
               BB wrist curls 2 sets

Seated calf raises 5 sets.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 19, 2014, 10:04:32 AM
Arms Today..

Lying ez bar extensions 3 sets Superset with Barbell curls 3 sets
seated single DB extensions 3 sets  Superset with DB incline Curls 3 sets
Reverse Grip cable pressdowns 3 sets  Superset with DB concentration curls 3 sets

Forearms: EZ Bar reverse curls 2 sets
               BB wrist curls 2 sets

Seated calf raises 5 sets.  
8)

off work today 3 day weekend

delts
shoulder press inner grip on stack weighted machinex4

trisets
side lateral
front raises
rear delt bent over ,,all seated set 1 with 20 lb dbls,,2/3 used 25's..

curl bar upright rows premade 80/90/90
2 sets cable behind back raises

shrugs dbell change ,,,85/95/105/110's 
2 sets x20 45 lb plate ea hand up/hold/squeeze

forarms
cable reverse wrist curls x3
rollups x3 with rope/plate  i use 10 and 2.5 only kills
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 19, 2014, 11:38:39 AM
On Tuesday I worked back using the same routine as last week. I upped the resistance slightly.
On Wednesday I worked shoulders, increasing the resistance while sticking to the same routine
On Thursday I worked arms, increasing the resistance and keeping to the routine from the previous week.

Next week will be a challenge since the gym closes early on Christmas eve and is closed all day on Christmas day. I'd probably be too busy to go to the gym anyway on those days.

I've gained 5 lbs. since I restarted working out. This is not a huge surprise since I generally gain weight when I lift. I don't think I am eating any more than usual though and my waist is still tight. I'm going to watch this closely. Yikes, I might actually have to diet for the first time in my life if I want to be really cut.

Bought my wife a Microsoft Surface Pro for Christmas. She asked for a tablet to check email and play games on. Since she is familiar with Microsoft programs, including Windows and Outlook for email, the learning curve should be easy and quick for her. I'm holding off on buying the keyboard/cover since the main idea of a tablet is to use the touch screen for everything.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jr on December 20, 2014, 01:14:06 PM
Fullbody Every Two Days Routine

Week 2 Update

Bodyweight: +2kg (4.4lbs)    Overall: +2.5kg (5.5lbs)
Bodyfat: Site 1: No change (Maybe slight drop)     Overall: -0.25mm

Main lifts:

Squat: +7.5kg (16.5 lbs)  Overall: +7.5kg (16.5lbs)
Bench: +2 reps    Overall: +4 reps
Chins: +3.75 kg (8.25lbs)  Overall: +5 kg (11.lbs)

Not reporting deadlifts anymore as gains too easy due to conservative starting weight.

No cardio this week due to foot pain problems


Next week:

Keep calories and volume the same as last week due to making gains.



Week 3 Update

Bodyweight: +1.5 kg (3.3lbs)    Overall: +4 kg (8.8lbs)
Bodyfat: Site 1: +0.5mm     Overall: +0.25mm

Main lifts:

Squat: +5kg (11 lbs)  Overall: +12.5kg (27.5lbs)
Bench: +2.5kg  (5.5 lbs)  Overall: +2.5kg (5.5 lbs)
Chins: +2.5 kg (5.5lbs)  Overall: +7.5 kg (16.5lbs)

Next week:

Keep calories and volume the same as last week due to making gains.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 21, 2014, 01:53:40 AM
bit of a storm here last night. got caught in it cycling. was piss wet through when i got home.. I think iīll go to the local swimming Baths today. thinking of changing round my weight training split. Give it some thought in the whirlpool... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 21, 2014, 11:28:29 AM
bit of a storm here last night. got caught in it cycling. was piss wet through when i got home.. I think iīll go to the local swimming Baths today. thinking of changing round my weight training split. Give it some thought in the whirlpool... ;D

We're having a bit of a storm here too this weekend. It's a good time to snuggle in, eat some popcorn and watch a movie. The good news is that the area of our yard that normally turned into a lake during rain storms is not flooded at all. The new French Drain is working!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 21, 2014, 12:27:39 PM
Glad to hear the drain is working jay  ;D  felt very refreshed after a swim. Pool was busy though. Some nice girls...well at least I can look can't I ?  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 21, 2014, 03:29:57 PM
some crazyness at home,getting close /feb.. 10 yr anniversary and 3 kids and job is wearing on the household thats all i will say...i get very down on life at times and even tho i try to stay positive and go to church ,i try to find faith/god and ask 'what gives'and where am i going?thats as much i will get deep here sorry,,,,


leg day monster pump/reps/volume..

hack squat 2 plates warmed 15,,,,,3/5/5/5.5 plates per side,,killer
leg press had goal 15 rep sets set up 5 plates a side and i went/training partner in/out/x3 pain :P
walking lunges x2 80 lb bar
extension 220/250 x3 12-15

hams
sldl 135-225
seated leg culrs 180-210

calves seated calf raise x4
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 21, 2014, 03:37:48 PM
Glad to hear the drain is working jay  ;D  felt very refreshed after a swim. Pool was busy though. Some nice girls...well at least I can look can't I ?  ;D

My wife says flirting is fine.  That's as far as it goes though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 21, 2014, 07:42:38 PM
My wife gets pissed when I flirt.

Prime regarding tricep pushdowns you mentioned on a previous post I see there are two different methods. One is standing upright keeping your upper arms relatively still just moving your lower arms (radius and ulner part). The other is where guys bend over and it resembles to me almost like doing a standing dip with the bar. The second respective mentioned method you can handle a lot more weight than the strict upright version. Again they are two different exercises for triceps. Dorian Yates uses the upright version and Kevin Levrone uses the bent over dipping type tricep extensions.

What is better? It's a hard question to answer from a kinesiology view point. Both are good exercises.

about 36 minute mark.

about 2:40 minute mark

Anyway these are my thoughts. Prime regarding a touch screen on a tablet I find it really hard to type on them but maybe that's just me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 21, 2014, 08:21:29 PM
Tuesday Night i had a bit of a Drama at home. About 10 pm here my power went out.. did the normal fault finding stuff you do but could not find the problem. So Wednesday morning i had an Electrician here. Found out a plug socket in my Bedroom was the problem. A couple of wires were burned .. I thought i smelled something ... :o but did not see anything. Had to open a bit of the wall but not so bad as itīs like a round capped area made to open was going to Decorate soon anyway...as the wallpaper he cut away. Good job i still had my phone for getbig... :D ;D   

During storm Sandy at the  New Jersey shore here my power went out for a week. I bought a gasoline powered generator. Cost me a good buck. Loud as hell and ate gas like you wouldn't believe. 7 gallons  for about 10 hours of power.  We had two refrigerators, lights, heaters, and other stuff connected through a maze of wires. We made a hot spot for our lap top computers with our phones for wifi.

 Glad your power was a relatively easy fix. Losing power reminds us of how we need to know how to survive without modern technology.  In times of war or natural disaster we will have no heat, power, and stores will run out of food relatively quick. I'm not a nut survivalist but I have a friend who stock piles canned food in his garage. He uses and rotates stock. He rightly says there will be chaos if there is a disruption to the food supply to stores. It's easy enough for a terrorist to do.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 22, 2014, 02:14:46 AM
some crazyness at home,getting close /feb.. 10 yr anniversary and 3 kids and job is wearing on the household thats all i will say...i get very down on life at times and even tho i try to stay positive and go to church ,i try to find faith/god and ask 'what gives'and where am i going?thats as much i will get deep here sorry,,,,


leg day monster pump/reps/volume..

hack squat 2 plates warmed 15,,,,,3/5/5/5.5 plates per side,,killer
leg press had goal 15 rep sets set up 5 plates a side and i went/training partner in/out/x3 pain :P
walking lunges x2 80 lb bar
extension 220/250 x3 12-15

hams
sldl 135-225
seated leg culrs 180-210

calves seated calf raise x4
we all have moments like this Steve... i like to go for a long walk and you have peace to think things over more calmly. At christmas when sitting with your Family you know itīs all worth it ;) family is important. oh and nice workout too.. ;D
My wife says flirting is fine.  That's as far as it goes though.
This is very true. sounds like you and your wife compliment each other well, both very wise...
During storm Sandy at the  New Jersey shore here my power went out for a week. I bought a gasoline powered generator. Cost me a good buck. Loud as hell and ate gas like you wouldn't believe. 7 gallons  for about 10 hours of power.  We had two refrigerators, lights, heaters, and other stuff connected through a maze of wires. We made a hot spot for our lap top computers with our phones for wifi.

 Glad your power was a relatively easy fix. Losing power reminds us of how we need to know how to survive without modern technology.  In times of war or natural disaster we will have no heat, power, and stores will run out of food relatively quick. I'm not a nut survivalist but I have a friend who stock piles canned food in his garage. He uses and rotates stock. He rightly says there will be chaos if there is a disruption to the food supply to stores. It's easy enough for a terrorist to do.
some might laugh at your Friend but i think he is very wise. Ever watch that 70s/80s Film the Day after ?  pretty scary stuff. Lucky the power went out at about 10pm..just went to bed. A week no power is hard and you are correct we take a lot for granted. still iīve cooked in all sorts of condition in freezing snow in a hole in the ground..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 22, 2014, 04:11:52 AM
I like to have a read now and again on Clarence Bass's web page...very Radical to say the least but intresting non the less..  weights and Aerobics 1x a week... :o still he does his research, I think for a younger man too little. Thoughts ?
http://www.cbass.com/index.html
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 22, 2014, 04:33:46 AM
some crazyness at home,getting close /feb.. 10 yr anniversary and 3 kids and job is wearing on the household thats all i will say...i get very down on life at times and even tho i try to stay positive and go to church ,i try to find faith/god and ask 'what gives'and where am i going?thats as much i will get deep here sorry,,,,


leg day monster pump/reps/volume..

hack squat 2 plates warmed 15,,,,,3/5/5/5.5 plates per side,,killer
leg press had goal 15 rep sets set up 5 plates a side and i went/training partner in/out/x3 pain :P
walking lunges x2 80 lb bar
extension 220/250 x3 12-15

hams
sldl 135-225
seated leg culrs 180-210

calves seated calf raise x4

I know life can get hard sometimes. I have 4 kids and use to work the craziest of hours. An example of this would be 4 days going into work at 11PM and then 4 days going to work at 6AM. This was all consecutive. Then the job had a lot of stress.  

One constant was working out. I always managed to get the workouts in. Sometimes with limited time you have to go the HIT route just to save time. A 45 minute weight workout will fit better into your busy day. Doing a Yates type workout of one set to failure can be a blessing when time is a problem. Training at home helps. Driving 20 minutes to a gym then lifting for 2 hours is huge time block of your day. I also found it good to include training on my days off from work.  If you're doing something like a 4 way split training body parts once a week if you are doing two of those workouts on your day off then only two of your work days will include weight workouts. Running for cardio is ideal because you can just put on a pair of running shoes and go out your door for a 20 minute run on off training days. Fast and quick.

Emotionally don't use steroids. When on you will feel mentally fantastic, aggressive, and confident. Off cycle when the drugs leave your system you will feel depression, nervous, and timid. Both testosterone and estrogen play a powerful roll on emotions and mental well being. Anyone who has teenage daughters and sons can attest to this.  ;D  If you're not competing for money and supplement contracts let the steroid stuff go. Risking health for compliments is insanity. You will look good without it. You will never look as good as you do with it but you will surprise yourself once your hormones are back to normal.  (not accusing you of using)

Going to church is an important part of feeling better. Going to go this Monday morning. Remember rest is important too.

What I'm going through right now is that I reached the age limit for my job and I am on a pension. I lost about 45K of my income but my expenses went through the roof trying to help my son through college. I live in my dream house with my dream gym in my 9 foot tall ceiling 1300 sq ft. basement. I know I'm going have to sell my house soon and downsize. It's killing me everyday knowing that time is coming. I'm searching for job but striking out. I guess downsizing a house isn't the end of the world but it hurts my pride and I know it will hurt my family.



Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 22, 2014, 04:36:29 AM
I like to have a read now and again on Clarence Bass's web page...very Radical to say the least but intresting non the less..  weights and Aerobics 1x a week... :o still he does his research, I think for a younger man too little. Thoughts ?
http://www.cbass.com/index.html

He never trained like that in his younger years. (40's an 50's) Now he states what you mentioned above is the best way to train. Yes for a guy in his 70's it might be.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 22, 2014, 04:47:28 AM
He never trained like that in his younger years. (40's an 50's) Now he states what you mentioned above is the best way to train. Yes for a guy in his 70's it might be.
yes i think he has found what works for him at his age. Rich i know you have wrote this before but you should really look into working as a Trainer at least part time. I know the piece of paper means nothing but still.. you would make a great trainer.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 22, 2014, 09:54:52 AM
Last night while fixing dinner, I managed to slice open my hand with a chef's knife. The cut was pretty deep but fortunately not too long and no arteries were cut. My son-in-law and daughter fixed me us with surgical adhesive and tape and then wrapped up my hand like a mummy. Hopefully the skin is glued back together. Remember when you used to have to get stitches for cuts?

I am not going to the gym today. I am taking a Christmas tree, ornaments and lights to my sister who lives in Salem, OR. I am paying her storage fees again this month as a Christmas present.

Yesterday I intended to work legs as I did last week. My wife wanted to go to the store for stocking stuffers. I was nervous about just dropping her off as we've done in the past, so I missed the gym yesterday too. If I can get legs in tomorrow, I am going to call it good for the week and take Wednesday and Thursday off, (the gym is closed on Thursday anyway). I'll resume workouts on Saturday and be back to normal by next week, hopefully.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 22, 2014, 11:28:16 AM
yes i think he has found what works for him at his age. Rich i know you have wrote this before but you should really look into working as a Trainer at least part time. I know the piece of paper means nothing but still.. you would make a great trainer.

Thanks for the advice suggesting becoming a trainer. I have been sitting on the fence on this one for awhile. Several guys I worked with were surprised I didn't go into it when I retired. In the US many of the commercial gyms barely use personal trainers. They call them that but their function is to be salesmen selling gym memberships. Signing people up for personal training is a secondary function. Most of the personal trainers in the states that I have seen are female cheer leader types and guys on juice in their 20's.

Almost all gyms now won't allow an outside personal trainer to train clients in their gym if you're not an employee of their gym.  I was actually thinking about training people in their own homes carrying some equipment in the trunk of my car. Maybe I will make that leap. A new year is coming.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: T-REX007 on December 22, 2014, 04:37:16 PM
Bench day- prepping for early 2015 local comp

Bwt- 213

Floor presses -work sets
275 x 8- all reps paused
330 x 8 - all reps paused
225 x 20 - TNG reps,  just felt like reps tonight

Flyes - 2 x 20, just going for a quick pump

Front delts - raises  5 x 5

Biceps - concentration curls  10,8,6,4,2

pretty quick workout, in and out in 45 mins
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 22, 2014, 06:02:00 PM
Trained delt and triceps today. One set to failure. I warmed up if needed. Using moderate weight to fail at a relatively high rep count. Weight workout took 40 minutes.

Press behind the neck 1 x 12
Dumbbell press 1 x 13
Dumbbell lateral 1 x 20
Pulley lateral 1 x 17
Rear delt raise 1 x 15
Dumbbell shrug 1 x 20

Weighted dips 1 x 13
Pulley push downs 1 x 17
lying tricep extensions with ez bar 1 x 10
reverse grip D handle tricep extension 1 x 18

Weighted floor crunches 1 x 55
Pulley crunches 1 x 35

Took about an hour break and then went for a two mile run in the park.  I took roughly a week off hoping my injuries would feel better. Shoulder isn't that bad since I used moderate weight and strict sets. My foot however swelled up after the run with my nagging plantar fasciitis.

Hope to hit back tomorrow and go for another run.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 23, 2014, 05:53:22 AM
Last night while fixing dinner, I managed to slice open my hand with a chef's knife. The cut was pretty deep but fortunately not too long and no arteries were cut. My son-in-law and daughter fixed me us with surgical adhesive and tape and then wrapped up my hand like a mummy. Hopefully the skin is glued back together. Remember when you used to have to get stitches for cuts?

I am not going to the gym today. I am taking a Christmas tree, ornaments and lights to my sister who lives in Salem, OR. I am paying her storage fees again this month as a Christmas present.

Yesterday I intended to work legs as I did last week. My wife wanted to go to the store for stocking stuffers. I was nervous about just dropping her off as we've done in the past, so I missed the gym yesterday too. If I can get legs in tomorrow, I am going to call it good for the week and take Wednesday and Thursday off, (the gym is closed on Thursday anyway). I'll resume workouts on Saturday and be back to normal by next week, hopefully.
Man...Jay we canīt keep you out of trouble can we... ;D yeah i remember getting my upper right ear stitched and head after a Motorbike crash was dumb not wearing a helmet and i have a deep scar on my right inner hand from a knife but that is another story ;)
Thanks for the advice suggesting becoming a trainer. I have been sitting on the fence on this one for awhile. Several guys I worked with were surprised I didn't go into it when I retired. In the US many of the commercial gyms barely use personal trainers. They call them that but their function is to be salesmen selling gym memberships. Signing people up for personal training is a secondary function. Most of the personal trainers in the states that I have seen are female cheer leader types and guys on juice in their 20's.

Almost all gyms now won't allow an outside personal trainer to train clients in their gym if you're not an employee of their gym.  I was actually thinking about training people in their own homes carrying some equipment in the trunk of my car. Maybe I will make that leap. A new year is coming.
There are people who want "mature" trainers like us. where i work we have a good mix of young and older trainers. Good idea doing personal training and going to your clients. Get yourself on a home page and some Flyers.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 23, 2014, 06:15:45 AM
Last night i did Chest.

Incline BB press 4 sets
Incline Flys 4 sets
Incline DB press 4 sets
Decline press 3 sets

Doing a bit more for upper chest now. I am getting to like hitting upper chest first. Decline for 3 sets was enough at the end.
Cardio was on the Bike 30 mins and 15 mins rowing machine. Never bothered with Abs as after Rowing my midsection felt good.


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: T-REX007 on December 23, 2014, 08:37:19 AM
Donny

I used to get pretty decent pec development with weighted dips, seemed to hit more of lower chest though
Looks like a solid routine
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 23, 2014, 08:44:47 AM
Donny

I used to get pretty decent pec development with weighted dips, seemed to hit more of lower chest though
Looks like a solid routine
Dips are great. i like Decline press too. Not because of the shorter range of motion or that i can lift more but itīs effective. I do however think i need more upper work so i will give it more attention. Using about 35% and not 45% DBs or BBs. Flys too. Although i am very careful on incline Flys.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 23, 2014, 08:50:46 AM
chest
fdb press 60x15...80/85/85 more heavier sets,,
decline press..x3
inc press 60/70/70..
pullover barbell 60/70/80
peck deck x3

tris
seated extension machine x3
close grip bench 'smith'
rope pulldowns x3
side tri pulldowns 'single arm'2x15

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 23, 2014, 08:51:57 AM
Dips are great. i like Decline press too. Not because of the shorter range of motion or that i can lift more but itīs effective. I do however think i need more upper work so i will give it more attention. Using about 35% and not 45% DBs or BBs. Flys too. Although i am very careful on incline Flys.
inc flyes I do regularly in my routine,right now its pec deck...I get up to 55/60's on inc flyes
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 23, 2014, 09:08:29 AM
inc flyes I do regularly in my routine,right now its pec deck...I get up to 55/60's on inc flyes
I am careful because of an injury but i do like DB flys. Just careful on the Inclines. Flat/Decline Flys no problem. I just never really got into cables for chest.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 24, 2014, 03:18:10 AM
German Christmas today so i did this morning a Home Back workout.

Front Chins 4 sets
Barbell rows (under grip) 4 sets
ez bar bent arm pullovers 4 sets
close grip BB upright rows 3 sets

Incline Bench sit ups 3x30, Bench leg raises 3x30.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 24, 2014, 05:33:19 AM
In case I forget, Merry Christmas to my mature thread friends. I hope the coming year is a ripped and successful training year.  Keep fighting the good fight and get that extra rep.  Hope you find something good under the tree like a bullworker.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: T-REX007 on December 24, 2014, 05:38:04 AM
Did quick legs before driving all over for Christmas -

Squats  8 x 3 @ 335, 2 min breaks between sets
standing calves - 3 x 25- 1 min breaks
leg curls - 3 x 12 - 2 min breaks

As I get older, I hate legs more and more, and I don't really train them that hard to begin with ..... bad omen I think
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 24, 2014, 06:05:27 AM
In case I forget, Merry Christmas to my mature thread friends. I hope the coming year is a ripped and successful training year.  Keep fighting the good fight and get that extra rep.  Hope you find something good under the tree like a bullworker.  ;D
I still got one in my Celler... ;D :D Keller ::)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 24, 2014, 11:59:11 AM
Merry Christmas my friends.

Here's a little something just for you guys. Santa is too busy to lift right now.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 24, 2014, 08:34:38 PM
back /bi's/abs

front pulldowns x4
tbar row wide grip x 4...2 plates/2.5/3/3.5
low row cable x3 180-190
chinups x3 sets 12..tough 4th exercise in,,
pulldown machine i face out instead of in like desighned x3

hypers x3 weighted

bis
seated bicep machine x4
seated db curls 30/35/35
cable curls single arm 'on low row part'

christmas eve dinner started early,,,fish dishes a plenty...

3 bottles wine  red 2 and white

mozzarella and tomatoe
salami/proscuitto
goat cheese on italian bread
mussels in white wine/garlic
shrimp'cold'
stuffed clams
olives/sicilan green/greek 'black
'main dish'lobster ravioli with vodka sauce

deseerts homeade cookies/pumpkin pie /cofee/
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 24, 2014, 09:13:47 PM
njflex, I have an Italian wife.

Stuffed clams
Flounder
shrimp cold with home made cocktail sauce that has a real kick.
Scallops cooked in butter and garlic
Pasta with white clam sauce
crab cakes
10 different types of the most incredible home made cookies. Never found a bakery that could even come close and I live near the American food capital of the US, NYC.
red wine, white and German beer.
Coffee and tea.

Wife gave me top of the line Adidas running shoes. I'm going to have to run my ass off to kill the amount of calories from today and tomorrow.  No worries. There is a time to party and a time to get to work.

Merry Christmas everyone!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 24, 2014, 09:18:22 PM
Last night while fixing dinner, I managed to slice open my hand with a chef's knife. The cut was pretty deep but fortunately not too long and no arteries were cut. My son-in-law and daughter fixed me us with surgical adhesive and tape and then wrapped up my hand like a mummy. Hopefully the skin is glued back together. Remember when you used to have to get stitches for cuts?

I am not going to the gym today. I am taking a Christmas tree, ornaments and lights to my sister who lives in Salem, OR. I am paying her storage fees again this month as a Christmas present.

Yesterday I intended to work legs as I did last week. My wife wanted to go to the store for stocking stuffers. I was nervous about just dropping her off as we've done in the past, so I missed the gym yesterday too. If I can get legs in tomorrow, I am going to call it good for the week and take Wednesday and Thursday off, (the gym is closed on Thursday anyway). I'll resume workouts on Saturday and be back to normal by next week, hopefully.

Hope the hand is healing without an infection.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 24, 2014, 09:32:30 PM
njflex, I have an Italian wife.

Stuffed clams
Flounder
shrimp cold with home made cocktail sauce that has a real kick.
Scallops cooked in butter and garlic
Pasta with white clam sauce
crab cakes
10 different types of the most incredible home made cookies. Never found a bakery that could even come close and I live near the American food capital of the US, NYC.
red wine, white and German beer.
Coffee and tea.

Wife gave me top of the line Adidas running shoes. I'm going to have to run my ass off to kill the amount of calories from today and tomorrow.  No worries. There is a time to party and a time to get to work.

Merry Christmas everyone!

bravo...molto bene,,,abudanzza...cuisine ,,im stuffed dude,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 25, 2014, 01:08:25 AM
Merry Christmas my friends.

Here's a little something just for you guys. Santa is too busy to lift right now.
Merry Christmas  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 25, 2014, 01:50:04 AM
Hope the hand is healing without an infection.

My immune system is top notch. No infection what-so-ever. It just has a regular band aide on it now. The skin has sealed up pretty good. There is no gaping wound or anything, just a line where the knife cut the flesh.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 25, 2014, 01:34:05 PM
Do yuse guys try to watch what you eat during the holidays? I just say fuck it. Eating a home made canoli my Italian wife made and cookies right now. Drank so much beer yesterday I think my waist size went up an inch in one day. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 26, 2014, 01:49:25 AM
I was Drinking this yesterday...a Dark Beer... i donīt drink wine or spirits. Tasty though  :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 26, 2014, 08:22:03 PM
Did this today with a hang over. I know I don't keep an every day journal here. It's just to much typing. No warm ups listed. Back and chest.

Pull ups 2 x max
Low V handle seated cable rows 2 x 12
Single Dumbbell row off a bench 2 x 10
Reverse pulley straight bar pulldown 2 x 10

Dumbbell flat bench 2 x 8 (Both of my shoulders are so bad I used a light weight 70lbs and used a slow rep cadence and a full range of motion)
Incline dumbbell bench 2 x 8
Flat flies 2 x 10
Push ups 2 x max (regular and perfect push up handles)

Dead lift 2 x 4 then 1 x 1
Weighted hyper extensions 2 x 12 (used nice form and cadence using a 25lbs plate behind my head.)
Weighted floor crunch 1 x 55 (held a 5lbs plate behind head trying to get my upper back off the floor every rep)

In bed typing this out. My left shoulder just made pop corn noises when I moved my arm. I can see a time coming when push ups will be my only chest exercise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 26, 2014, 08:28:01 PM
delts and some extra arms thrown in....gym closed early from holiday ???,,,so part in gym rushed home finished there...

front press x4

trisets x3
side laterals
fr rsaise
rear delt raise  done i gym

home
uprights x3
rear db raise beind back x3

cable shrugs behind back x3
2 sets dbell shrug drops 60/50/45's

bi/tris
pusdowns with db curls x3

db tri extensions lying with hammers across body x3
2 sets cable curls small bar...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 27, 2014, 05:24:26 AM
Got to admit i have not done much in the last few Days. I will later tonight go for a run. Looks like snow could be on itīs way here...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 27, 2014, 11:16:17 AM
Leg day. No warm ups listed.

Squats 4 x 9 then 1 x 1 (went up 10lbs a set)
leg press 2 x 12
leg extensions 2 x 20
seated leg curl 2 x 15

Single dumbbell side bend 1 x 15
hanging leg raise 2 x max
Pulley crunches 2 x 30

Standing calf raise 2 x 15
seated calf raise 2x 15

neck work.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 28, 2014, 09:52:35 AM
went for a cycle to visit a friend ...its baltik here ... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 28, 2014, 02:56:57 PM
leg day..

leg press x4 4-7 plates per side ,,reps 12/12/12/10
hack squat x4 ...3 plate to 5.5 per side
lunges steps 45 lbs plate ea hand up/down/up/down x2..
extension 205/235/250/265 ..12/12/12/10

hams
sldl dbell x4 60-90
seated leg curls x2 180/195 sets 10

calves standing calf raise drops x3,,200/180/160/140 10 reps per..brutal
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 28, 2014, 08:02:06 PM
leg day..

leg press x4 4-7 plates per side ,,reps 12/12/12/10
hack squat x4 ...3 plate to 5.5 per side
lunges steps 45 lbs plate ea hand up/down/up/down x2..
extension 205/235/250/265 ..12/12/12/10

hams
sldl dbell x4 60-90
seated leg curls x2 180/195 sets 10

calves standing calf raise drops x3,,200/180/160/140 10 reps per..brutal

Good job. You're still lifting loads of poundage.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 29, 2014, 05:59:59 AM
Did a Home Gym Chest Workout...

Incline Barbell press 4 sets
Incline Flys 4 sets
Flat Dumbbell press 4 sets
parallel bar dips 2x max

Abs: Crunches with calves on Bench superset with Bench Leg raises. 3 x max reps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2014, 06:15:18 AM
Good job. You're still lifting loads of poundage.
yes....I feel on top off my game .....intense,,i rest when needed ,,,eating/and such rest all on par,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 29, 2014, 07:43:05 AM
leg day..

leg press x4 4-7 plates per side ,,reps 12/12/12/10
hack squat x4 ...3 plate to 5.5 per side
lunges steps 45 lbs plate ea hand up/down/up/down x2..
extension 205/235/250/265 ..12/12/12/10

hams
sldl dbell x4 60-90
seated leg curls x2 180/195 sets 10

calves standing calf raise drops x3,,200/180/160/140 10 reps per..brutal
Hardcore Steve but why so many Quad dominant exercises or do you change your feet positions on leg press and hacks?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2014, 08:57:40 AM
Hardcore Steve but why so many Quad dominant exercises or do you change your feet positions on leg press and hacks?
OH YEAH.. HACKS FEET WERE DONE TOGETHER AND UP ON PLATE A BIT..WIDEISH ON LEG PRESS,,AFTER LUNGES MY LEGS ALL AROUND WERE PUMPED USUALLY DO 8 SETS HAMS..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 29, 2014, 09:07:14 AM
OH YEAH.. HACKS FEET WERE DONE TOGETHER AND UP ON PLATE A BIT..WIDEISH ON LEG PRESS,,AFTER LUNGES MY LEGS ALL AROUND WERE PUMPED USUALLY DO 8 SETS HAMS..
QUADZILLA  ;D  Leg press feet higher up i feel it good on my Hammies. Good routine which works for you Steve. I asked because i remember in the past i did not work my Hammies enough and i got some lower back pain.. doing stiff deads again and stretches sorted it. Muscle disbalance.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2014, 09:11:40 AM
QUADZILLA  ;D  Leg press feet higher up i feel it good on my Hammies. Good routine which works for you Steve. I asked because i remember in the past i did not work my Hammies enough and i got some lower back pain.. doing stiff deads again and stretches sorted it. Muscle disbalance.
MY LOWER BACK FEELS GREAT... I DO A LOT OF BACK ROWING ..MY WORKOUT PARTNER ALWAYS SAYS HOW MY BACK/LEGS NEVER QUIT/FATIGUE..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 29, 2014, 09:19:23 AM
MY LOWER BACK FEELS GREAT... I DO A LOT OF BACK ROWING ..MY WORKOUT PARTNER ALWAYS SAYS HOW MY BACK/LEGS NEVER QUIT/FATIGUE..
A lot of people donīt train Hammies enough, also stretches and i was guilty myself of this. I am still flexible but if you train an antagonistic muscle group more than itīs opposite muscle you get disbalance. This couses pain in most cases. the stronger muscle group controls too much and the other is weak and shortens to a degree.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2014, 09:51:05 AM
A lot of people donīt train Hammies enough, also stretches and i was guilty myself of this. I am still flexible but if you train an antagonistic muscle group more than itīs opposite muscle you get disbalance. This couses pain in most cases. the stronger muscle group controls too much and the other is weak and shortens to a degree.
hyperextensions hit hams too,,lunges...ect..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 29, 2014, 09:52:55 AM
hyperextensions hit hams too,,lunges...ect..
yes of course Steve  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 29, 2014, 10:09:56 AM
Stiff Deads or Romanian Deads the diffrence to me is just minimal and really not worth bothering about but rather how deep or how low you go. slightly bent knees butt back i see mostly in the Gym. I do it with slightly unlocked knees and to about the shin area and not bending over too far so my back is in a weak position. Hammies get a great workout and stretch more important to me than contracted with leg curls.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2014, 10:17:41 AM
Stiff Deads or Romanian Deads the diffrence to me is just minimal and really not worth bothering about but rather how deep or how low you go. slightly bent knees butt back i see mostly in the Gym. I do it with slightly unlocked knees and to about the shin area and not bending over too far so my back is in a weak position. Hammies get a great workout and stretch more important to me than contracted with leg curls.
exactly ..the 'form' so to speak is imagining a bird or ostrich bending down for a worm
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 29, 2014, 10:32:07 AM
exactly ..the 'form' so to speak is imagining a bird or ostrich bending down for a worm
never heard that description before but i suppose it is apt. As you rightly pointed out Hyperextensions done correctly are a great Hammie exercise too.  Canīt tell you how often i have had to speak to people doing this exercise either too quickly or hyperextending at the end position(upper)... made worse by the uncontrolled speed. These exercises need to be done slowly. Still... stiff Deads build Hammies better in my opinion over a full movement, stretch, contracted, midrange... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2014, 10:36:08 AM
never heard that description before but i suppose it is apt. As you rightly pointed out Hyperextensions done correctly are a great Hammie exercise too.  Canīt tell you how often i have had to speak to people doing this exercise either too quickly or hyperextending at the end position(upper)... made worse by the uncontrolled speed. These exercises need to be done slowly. Still... stiff Deads build Hammies better in my opinion over a full movement, stretch, contracted, midrange... ;)
ABSOLUTLEY IF I DO LEG CULRS AND SEATED LEG CURLS MILD SORENESS...STIFF LEGGED I'M COOKED FOR DAY OR 2...I'M IN PAIN RIGHT AS WE SPEAK  :P.. 8)... :D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 29, 2014, 10:38:51 AM
ABSOLUTLEY IF I DO LEG CULRS AND SEATED LEG CURLS MILD SORENESS...STIFF LEGGED I'M COOKED FOR DAY OR 2...I'M IN PAIN RIGHT AS WE SPEAK  :P.. 8)... :D...
I feel it too... ;D great exercise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 29, 2014, 04:18:31 PM
Stiff leg deads are one of the best exercises, I agree. I do them on a block with a barbell with straps. I don't use the flat back version. I do round my back slightly and let the bar touch the top of my feet. After doing them my hamstrings and butt are hurting. Like Donny I don't lock my knees completely but very slightly unlocked. I never go heavy and use between 185lbs and 225lbs. I like the way they stretch out the hams. Great for athletic transfer and yes, injury prevention. I might try the dumbbell version soon. I never tried it for this exercise. The greatest combination I found for myself for lower back strength and health is using the combination of stiff leg deads and weighted back extensions.

Today was delts and arms. No warm up listed.

Dumbbell press 2 x 10
Dumbbell laterals 2 x 10
D handle pulley laterals 1x10
Rear delt laterals 2 x 10
barbell shrugs 2 x 10

EZ bar curls 2 x 10
straight bar pulley curls 2 x 10
dumbbell concentration curls 2 x 12 (seated version)

Traditional tricep pushdowns 2 x 10
EZ bar tricep extensions lying on bench 2 x 8 ( I let my head slightly hang off the end of the bench letting my arms really bend)
D handle reverse grip tricep pulley extension 2 x 12

forearm wrist curls 2 x 20
reverse wrist extensions 2 x 15

weighted crunches with feet on bench 1 x 55
pulley crunches 2 x 30

Ivanko gripper 2x 20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2014, 07:56:15 PM
chest

fdb 60 /75/80/85..12/12/10/8
decline x3
inc db 60/65/65
pullovers db 60/75/80
pec machine flyes x3

tris
superset machine dips with over head rope extensions x3
reverse grip pushdowns x3
pushdowns x2x20

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 30, 2014, 06:13:36 AM
Stiff leg deads are one of the best exercises, I agree. I do them on a block with a barbell with straps. I don't use the flat back version. I do round my back slightly and let the bar touch the top of my feet. After doing them my hamstrings and butt are hurting. Like Donny I don't lock my knees completely but very slightly unlocked. I never go heavy and use between 185lbs and 225lbs. I like the way they stretch out the hams. Great for athletic transfer and yes, injury prevention. I might try the dumbbell version soon. I never tried it for this exercise. The greatest combination I found for myself for lower back strength and health is using the combination of stiff leg deads and weighted back extensions.

Today was delts and arms. No warm up listed.

Dumbbell press 2 x 10
Dumbbell laterals 2 x 10
D handle pulley laterals 1x10
Rear delt laterals 2 x 10
barbell shrugs 2 x 10

EZ bar curls 2 x 10
straight bar pulley curls 2 x 10
dumbbell concentration curls 2 x 12 (seated version)

Traditional tricep pushdowns 2 x 10
EZ bar tricep extensions lying on bench 2 x 8 ( I let my head slightly hang off the end of the bench letting my arms really bend)
D handle reverse grip tricep pulley extension 2 x 12

forearm wrist curls 2 x 20
reverse wrist extensions 2 x 15

weighted crunches with feet on bench 1 x 55
pulley crunches 2 x 30

Ivanko gripper 2x 20
The Dumbbell version i like too. more freedom to find the best position for your body.. not finding an easy position but where your body is best suited. I know you like Dumbbell squats too, great exercise and as Grape Ape mentioned in another thread Goblet squats. Steve likes Dumbbell Stiff deads.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 31, 2014, 01:31:25 AM
wish everyone on here a Great New Year and have a good Night Tonight.. what ever your time zones.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 31, 2014, 07:22:47 AM
wish everyone on here a Great New Year and have a good Night Tonight.. what ever your time zones.. ;D
u too and whole 'mature group' 8)

back attack
lots of rows...
classic bent over rows....135/245 nothing less than 10...
front pulldowns used the low row bar with clos ehandles...hits upper mid back..160/180/180
under handed grip low row machine chest to pad 'weight stack version'175/190/210
reverse grip hammer pulldown x3 2 plates per side added some 10's on other 2 sets
finished 2 sets of 10 ..dumbbell rows off the rack 80/90

weighted hypers x3

bis
seated cable curls 'did them on low row area,feet propped like rows ,,gets good pump x4
seated curl with pad 'scott curl'machine version x3
standing single arm cable curls ,back against post 'no cheat'lol...x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 31, 2014, 10:24:54 AM
u too and whole 'mature group' 8)

back attack
lots of rows...
classic bent over rows....135/245 nothing less than 10...
front pulldowns used the low row bar with clos ehandles...hits upper mid back..160/180/180
under handed grip low row machine chest to pad 'weight stack version'175/190/210
reverse grip hammer pulldown x3 2 plates per side added some 10's on other 2 sets
finished 2 sets of 10 ..dumbbell rows off the rack 80/90

weighted hypers x3

bis
seated cable curls 'did them on low row area,feet propped like rows ,,gets good pump x4
seated curl with pad 'scott curl'machine version x3
standing single arm cable curls ,back against post 'no cheat'lol...x3

abs
I did Back today as well.

Front pulldowns 4 sets
close grip pulldowns 4 sets
BB rows 4 sets
pullovers with ez bar 3 set
one arm cable rows 4 sets using higher reps on these.

went for a run outside for cardio about 50 mins or so.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 31, 2014, 06:56:13 PM
Happy New Year to all my Mature thread friends.  Hope this year brings successful training and no injuries.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 01, 2015, 10:00:19 AM
delt day 2015....

sholder press machine 'stack version'inner grip x4

donny tri sets
laterals
fr raises
rear raise..x3 20/25/25 dbells..crazy pump...

cable close uprights x4

finish behind back cable raises x3'i use no handle s just cable end

shrugs 225-315
reverse shrug x3 3/3.5/4 plates

forarms
weighted rope rolls x3
wrist curls cable reverse x3
single grip wrist curls x3

calves standing calf raises x6
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 02, 2015, 02:08:16 AM
delt day 2015....

sholder press machine 'stack version'inner grip x4

donny tri sets
laterals
fr raises
rear raise..x3 20/25/25 dbells..crazy pump...

cable close uprights x4

finish behind back cable raises x3'i use no handle s just cable end

shrugs 225-315
reverse shrug x3 3/3.5/4 plates

forarms
weighted rope rolls x3
wrist curls cable reverse x3
single grip wrist curls x3

calves standing calf raises x6
Behind the back cable raises sound interesting. good tip.

i did a simple arm workout yesterday.

Barbell curls 3 sets
lying Dumbbell curls 3 sets (great ex no cheating)
Cable concentration curls 3 sets

seated tri extension machine 3 sets
incline ez bar extensions 3 sets
reverse grip pressdowns 3 sets

went more for a pumping workout hitting each exercise with 10-15 reps and fairly fast workout.

Machine Ab Crunches 3x 20 and Seated calf raises 5 sets.

i inclined a flat bench slightly for the lying Dumbbel curls but worked good.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 02, 2015, 02:26:48 AM
Dave Draper doing lying curls. Due to the fact i could not adjust the height of the flat bench then you have to use step boards or some way to raise it to get a full stretch in the movement in the lower position. i think the first time i saw this was a picture of Reg Park doing it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: T-REX007 on January 02, 2015, 08:15:33 PM
Dave Draper - the Blond Bomber !

Man is still legend in my book, those curls you were doing are classic, can you imagine some of the crap he and the Oak must have seen and done back in the day- ? :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 03, 2015, 12:00:47 PM
Dave Draper - the Blond Bomber !

Man is still legend in my book, those curls you were doing are classic, can you imagine some of the crap he and the Oak must have seen and done back in the day- ? :o
Great Old School Bodybuilder..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 03, 2015, 05:38:31 PM
Legs
Squats heavy .warmed.225/275/313/365/405.12/10/10/10/6
Leg press 5 plates/6/7
Walking lungesx2
Extensions205/235/240 sets 12

Hams
Lying leg curls 140_170
Stiff legged 185/205/225

Calves seated calf raise x7
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 04, 2015, 12:44:14 PM
Legs
Squats heavy .warmed.225/275/313/365/405.12/10/10/10/6
Leg press 5 plates/6/7
Walking lungesx2
Extensions205/235/240 sets 12

Hams
Lying leg curls 140_170
Stiff legged 185/205/225

Calves seated calf raise x7

Nice work... I went for a run through the woods today. amazing how many people i met wearing nice new kit. New years resolutions i think. The Gym is always full too in January but not many carry it on.. still Gyms also live of members even if they donīt train. Sad but true. come March or so people also try and get out of their contract with Doctors letters... ;D suppose i canīt blame them though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: T-REX007 on January 04, 2015, 02:02:53 PM
 Donny,

Lifting some decent weight there on squats bro !

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 04, 2015, 02:08:28 PM
Donny,

Lifting some decent weight there on squats bro !


you mean Steve...his post ..yes he loves training legs ..Quadzilla 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 04, 2015, 06:06:59 PM
you mean Steve...his post ..yes he loves training legs ..Quadzilla 
;D....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2015, 04:00:54 AM
Later tonight i will do chest concentrating on my upper area. I think i will do a POF workout for my upper portion. Getting a stretch,Midrange,contraction.

Midrange: Incline Barbell press
Stretch(lower position) Incline Flyes
Contraction: Incline cable flyes squeezing upper position hard maybe crossing hands.
Midrange: Decline Barbell press

Sets 3-4 per exercise.
Calfes 5 sets, Abs, Crunches superset with lying leg raises 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2015, 05:51:13 AM
Later tonight i will do chest concentrating on my upper area. I think i will do a POF workout for my upper portion. Getting a stretch,Midrange,contraction.

Midrange: Incline Barbell press
Stretch(lower position) Incline Flyes
Contraction: Incline cable flyes squeezing upper position hard maybe crossing hands.
Midrange: Decline Barbell press

Sets 3-4 per exercise.
Calfes 5 sets, Abs, Crunches superset with lying leg raises 3 sets
guillotine press ,I think you said you do not like them..i agree it feels good but off a tad and shoulders hurt,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2015, 06:28:58 AM
guillotine press ,I think you said you do not like them..i agree it feels good but off a tad and shoulders hurt,,
yes they really irritate my shoulders. After my shoulder problem i am happy to do Incline press and Flyes... still they work for others.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 05, 2015, 08:08:59 PM
Went for a 2 mile run in the park. It was about 37 degrees and the wind was howling. I hate the cold.

I also trained chest today.

Bench press 2 x 6 then 1x1
Incline bar press 2 x 6
flat flies 2 x 10
push ups 2 x max

Sit ups on an incline 1 x 25 (haven't done these in years. Felt weak doing them.)
Hanging leg raise 1 x max
weighted crunches legs on bench 1 x 50
pulley crunches 1 x 25


I've been doing some rotator cuff stuff lately. I also have been stretching my shoulders. I think the combo has helped. My shoulder didn't scream like it usually does. Hopefully at a snails pace I will use heavier weight instead of the light weight I'm using. So many directions a shoulder can move it's no wonder they get damaged from weight lifting. If any one wants some rehab ideas consult these pictures. I picked a couple for my self to use. https://www.google.com/search?q=rotator+cuff+exercises&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS516US516&espv=2&biw=1093&bih=499&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=lV2rVOj_C8OjNpvhgagI&sqi=2&ved=0CEUQsAQ#imgdii=_
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2015, 08:10:50 PM
chest

fdb press.60 warmed ..75/80/85/85

decline press x4 ..set 3 felt a twinge and some pain corner l/s pec under to pit area ,think i pulled bar towards mid chest area and it showed and felt ,,,i stretched and put some stuff on after shower..

inc press was ok on thses but still took it easy 60/60/65

bar pullovers premade x3 60/70/70

peck deck x3 sets 12-15

tris
pushdowns x4
seated tricep extensions machine x3
cable kick backs x3
reverse underhand grip pushdowns x2x20 finish'

abs 5 sets seated crunch machine weighted x20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2015, 05:45:32 AM
Went for a 2 mile run in the park. It was about 37 degrees and the wind was howling. I hate the cold.

I also trained chest today.

Bench press 2 x 6 then 1x1
Incline bar press 2 x 6
flat flies 2 x 10
push ups 2 x max

Sit ups on an incline 1 x 25 (haven't done these in years. Felt weak doing them.)
Hanging leg raise 1 x max
weighted crunches legs on bench 1 x 50
pulley crunches 1 x 25


I've been doing some rotator cuff stuff lately. I also have been stretching my shoulders. I think the combo has helped. My shoulder didn't scream like it usually does. Hopefully at a snails pace I will use heavier weight instead of the light weight I'm using. So many directions a shoulder can move it's no wonder they get damaged from weight lifting. If any one wants some rehab ideas consult these pictures. I picked a couple for my self to use. https://www.google.com/search?q=rotator+cuff+exercises&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS516US516&espv=2&biw=1093&bih=499&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=lV2rVOj_C8OjNpvhgagI&sqi=2&ved=0CEUQsAQ#imgdii=_

Good information Rich.. you got your finger on the pulse ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2015, 06:00:32 AM
mean while Back at the Ranch, i will stay with POF for my leg workout later. Most people do POF without realizing it. Improvised a bit as sissy squats kill my knees so i will do Leg extensions leaning back for a stretch. Will also work the Contracted position.. ;)

Midrange : Squats,seated leg press
stretch: leg extensions leaning back, Gironda power extensions
contracted: top of leg extension.

Hammies:
Midrange:middle to top of stiff legged deadlift
Stretch: bottom portion of stiff legged Deadlift
Contracted:Top of leg curl..feet flexed towards shins

Calfes i will do standing calf raises. to really do pof on calfes you should do say donkey calf raises(stretch), standing calf raises(contracted),Mid-Range,toes pointed leg curls.

sets 3-4 per exercise wait and see how much time i have later
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2015, 06:20:27 AM
mean while Back at the Ranch, i will stay with POF for my leg workout later. Most people do POF without realizing it. Improvised a bit as sissy squats kill my knees so i will do Leg extensions leaning back for a stretch. Will also work the Contracted position.. ;)

Midrange : Squats,seated leg press
stretch: leg extensions leaning back, Gironda power extensions
contracted: top of leg extension.

Hammies:
Midrange:middle to top of stiff legged deadlift
Stretch: bottom portion of stiff legged Deadlift
Contracted:Top of leg curl..feet flexed towards shins

Calfes i will do standing calf raises. to really do pof on calfes you should do say donkey calf raises(stretch), standing calf raises(contracted),Mid-Range,toes pointed leg curls.

sets 3-4 per exercise wait and see how much time i have later
I do sometimes leg curls 21's like bi's upper/mid/lower..kills the hams..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2015, 06:36:44 AM
I do sometimes leg curls 21's like bi's upper/mid/lower..kills the hams..
I have done partial reps but...GREAT TIP Steve...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 06, 2015, 10:18:49 AM
Trained back.

Revolving handles pullups 2 x max
V grip seated low pulley rows 2 x 12
dumbbell rows off bench 2 x 10
regular lat pulldowns 2 x 10
dumbbell pullover 1 x 12 (I haven't done them in years. Using them for lats but also to get a stretch in my tight shoulders)

deadlifts 2 x 4  (Stayed light. Didn't go over 315lbs)
Weighted back extensions 2 x 15 (held a 25lbs plate behind my head)

weighted crunches 1 x 50

The picture shows the exact revolving handles I used for pullups. Easy on the shoulders and I find it harder than straight bar pull ups.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2015, 10:47:20 AM
Trained back.

Revolving handles pullups 2 x max
V grip seated low pulley rows 2 x 12
dumbbell rows off bench 2 x 10
regular lat pulldowns 2 x 10
dumbbell pullover 1 x 12 (I haven't done them in years. Using them for lats but also to get a stretch in my tight shoulders)

deadlifts 2 x 4  (Stayed light. Didn't go over 315lbs)
Weighted back extensions 2 x 15 (held a 25lbs plate behind my head)

weighted crunches 1 x 50

The picture shows the exact revolving handles I used for pullups. Easy on the shoulders and I find it harder than straight bar pull ups.
that's cool like a gymnast,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 06, 2015, 12:30:07 PM
Today is my wife's birthday. I am hoping to take her to the movies this afternoon. Tonight I will fix her dinner. No gym today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2015, 12:36:06 PM
Today is my wife's birthday. I am hoping to take her to the movies this afternoon. Tonight I will fix her dinner. No gym today.
8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 06, 2015, 01:49:07 PM
Today is my wife's birthday. I am hoping to take her to the movies this afternoon. Tonight I will fix her dinner. No gym today.

Tell her some guy on your bodybuilding internet board from New Jersey said Happy Birthday!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2015, 02:36:54 PM
Today is my wife's birthday. I am hoping to take her to the movies this afternoon. Tonight I will fix her dinner. No gym today.
love you both :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 06, 2015, 04:21:46 PM
Trained back today. Double session and I finished with some cardio.

All laps were at a fast walk 3.8 MPH.

First lap 440 yards/quarter mile was at 0% incline grade. Every lap I increased the grade 1% grade for every lap. I went up 1% each lap until I got to 12% grade incline. The final lap I bought it down to 0% incline grade as a reward lap. That final lap felt effortless after all those incline laps.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 06, 2015, 10:41:03 PM
Tell her some guy on your bodybuilding internet board from New Jersey said Happy Birthday!

I'll do that tomorrow. She went to bed at 9:00 p.m. I think all the phone calls from friends and family exhausted her.

She asked for a rain check on the movies and lunch out. I fixed chicken Marsala with saffron rice and fresh broccoli for dinner. Our daughter bought her and me a small, two-person chocolate cake. She put a candle in it and we all sang happy birthday to her. She had a good day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 07, 2015, 06:37:21 AM
Back POF..

Midrange: Front Chins
Stretch: Barbell pullovers(bottom position)
Contracted: Undergrip pulldowns
Contracted/stretch:Wide Grip BB rows

stretch/midrange: close grip upright rows
Contracted: DB shrugs upper contracted position with pause.

Abs: hanging leg raises .. cardio I will use the Crosser. I think 30 mins
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 07, 2015, 06:58:01 AM
Back POF..

Midrange: Front Chins
Stretch: Barbell pullovers(bottom position)
Contracted: Undergrip pulldowns
Contracted/stretch:Wide Grip BB rows

stretch/midrange: close grip upright rows
Contracted: DB shrugs upper contracted position with pause.

Abs: hanging leg raises .. cardio I will use the Crosser. I think 30 mins
NICE,,,I HAVE BACK TONITE,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 07, 2015, 07:13:52 AM
NICE,,,I HAVE BACK TONITE,,,
maybe iīm thinking too much but when i train i want maximum benefit or as you Americanos say...Bang for my bucks. The pullovers i love.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 07, 2015, 07:21:42 AM
maybe iīm thinking too much but when i train i want maximum benefit or as you Americanos say...Bang for my bucks. The pullovers i love.
..
PULLOVERS/PEC DECK/DECLINES,,LAST 2-3 MONTHS WITHOUT FAIL..CHEST WORKOUTS ARE MORE EXCITING AGAIN..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 07, 2015, 07:42:43 AM
..
PULLOVERS/PEC DECK/DECLINES,,LAST 2-3 MONTHS WITHOUT FAIL..CHEST WORKOUTS ARE MORE EXCITING AGAIN..
stretch position i find important, my tris i feel too after BB pullovers. I alternate bent arm pullovers with straight arm old school style. Shoulder is OK as long as i use a moderate weight. Pullovers for me are more lats than chest although chest is stretched and contracted to a degree. If going for chest i would do it with a Dumbbell Arnold Style lowering hips. I like lying flat on a bench really dragging the Bar over with lats.  More effective than straight arm pulldowns..i like to really stretch in the lower position which i canīt feel with straight arm cable pulldowns..just me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 07, 2015, 10:21:27 AM
Day off from lifting. Decided to run in the park. It was 24 degrees F. So much ice on the trail that I only did one mile and quit. Figured I was tempting fate with a slip on the ice or frost bite. I wish they made a machine I could run indoors so I could avoid this weather.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2015, 10:39:51 AM
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PULLOVERS/PEC DECK/DECLINES,,LAST 2-3 MONTHS WITHOUT FAIL..CHEST WORKOUTS ARE MORE EXCITING AGAIN..

Have you tried pullovers on the Nautilus? The movement is the same as it would be if you were lying on a flat bench except you are seated. This of course means that gravity isn't much of a factor, but it is really easy to maintain good from with a fair amount of resistance. What's your feeling about this?

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2015, 10:44:16 AM
Day off from lifting. Decided to run in the park. It was 24 degrees F. So much ice on the trail that I only did one mile and quit. Figured I was tempting fate with a slip on the ice or frost bite. I wish they made a machine I could run indoors so I could avoid this weather.

You are a wild and crazy man! Be careful that you don't freeze your lungs. Ever heard of a treadmill? ;D There may not be the same nature quality scenery, but you'll surely find something or someone to keep your eyes busy at the gym while you do some laps on it. It's a heck of a lot safer than running on ice or in freezing weather.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 07, 2015, 10:46:24 AM
Have you tried pullovers on the Nautilus? The movement is the same as it would be if you were lying on a flat bench except you are seated. This of course means that gravity isn't much of a factor, but it is really easy to maintain good from with a fair amount of resistance. What's your feeling about this?


I LOVED THAT MACHINE...WE DO NOT HAVE ONE AT MY GYM...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2015, 10:52:55 AM
-Wife is still sleeping. She went to bed at 9:00 p.m. It is now almost 11:00 a.m. She has an appointment with the nephrologist next Wednesday. It has been a year since she was in the hospital with kidney failure. Her kidney function is beyond bad right now (10%). The big question we are all struggling with is whether she will agree to going back on dialysis. She has made it pretty clear she doesn't want to do this again. It's hard to know if she will hold to this decision when faced with it.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 07, 2015, 10:53:41 AM
-Wife is still sleeping. She went to bed at 9:00 p.m. It is now almost 11:00 a.m. She has an appointment with the nephrologist next Wednesday. It has been a year since she was in the hospital with kidney failure. Her kidney function is beyond bad right now (10%). The big question we are all struggling with is whether she will agree to going back on dialysis. She has made it pretty clear she doesn't want to do this again. It's hard to know if she will hold to this decision when faced with it.  
HOPE ALL IS WELL FOR 2015 ,,,BE STRONG/STAY STRONG...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2015, 10:58:40 AM
I LOVED THAT MACHINE...WE DO NOT HAVE ONE AT MY GYM...

Fortunately, the gym where I've worked out for that last 30+ years has a huge array of machines, including Nautilus, Hammer Strength, and others. There is also a lot of free weights. the dumbbell rack is probably 60 feet long and goes from 5 pound weights up to.....well, I don't really know since I haven't lifted more than the 75 lb. dumbbells which are about two thirds the way up the rack. There is no way to get bored with all this variety.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2015, 11:03:05 AM
HOPE ALL IS WELL FOR 2015 ,,,BE STRONG/STAY STRONG...

I'm trying to be strong. Fortunately, I have a huge support network both at home with family and with friends. You guys are important support for me too. I really appreciate your friendship over the past few years. It means a lot to me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 07, 2015, 11:35:40 AM
I'm trying to be strong. Fortunately, I have a huge support network both at home with family and with friends. You guys are important support for me too. I really appreciate your friendship over the past few years. It means a lot to me.
You are a good Man
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 07, 2015, 11:38:35 AM
Fortunately, the gym where I've worked out for that last 30+ years has a huge array of machines, including Nautilus, Hammer Strength, and others. There is also a lot of free weights. the dumbbell rack is probably 60 feet long and goes from 5 pound weights up to.....well, I don't really know since I haven't lifted more than the 75 lb. dumbbells which are about two thirds the way up the rack. There is no way to get bored with all this variety.
WE GO 5 LB TO 130'S DBELLS,HAMMER/CYBEX/SMITHS/PRELOADED CURLS BARS/PRELOADED STRAIGHT BARS/NO NAUTILUS... :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2015, 12:03:22 PM
WE GO 5 LB TO 130'S DBELLS,HAMMER/CYBEX/SMITHS/PRELOADED CURLS BARS/PRELOADED STRAIGHT BARS/NO NAUTILUS... :-\

Perhaps the gym owner believes Nautilus equipment means the gym isn't as hardcore.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 07, 2015, 12:06:22 PM
Perhaps the gym owner believes Nautilus equipment means the gym isn't as hardcore.
More the expense Jay
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 07, 2015, 12:43:05 PM
More the expense Jay
MORE MAINTENCE ON THEM I'M SURE....SOME MACHINES ARE GREAT...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 07, 2015, 03:46:32 PM
Have you tried pullovers on the Nautilus? The movement is the same as it would be if you were lying on a flat bench except you are seated. This of course means that gravity isn't much of a factor, but it is really easy to maintain good from with a fair amount of resistance. What's your feeling about this?



Nautilus pullover is one of the most fantastic designs Jones ever made. It can't be compared to a pullover on a flat bench. A pullover on a flat bench is less than a half a rep on a Nautilus pullover.

Hope your wife gets well soon. I hope doctors can figure out the best way to address the problem.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2015, 04:47:09 PM
MORE MAINTENCE ON THEM I'M SURE....SOME MACHINES ARE GREAT...

I guess I am lucky to have this gym to work out at. I have been a member for over 30 years. The annual dues are $225. New members pay much more. The only other expense is when I buy tanning time. This is $80 for 20 tans. I mainly use it in the winter to ward off the blahs and to insure I don't get too yellow looking. Olive skin, like mine looks healthier when it has a little bit of color. I could move to the South of France, but that would be more expensive than using the tanning bed.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 08, 2015, 04:56:45 AM
very ,very,very cold in jersey..trained at home back...

pulldowns x4
low rows short bar x3
db rows x3
single arm undergrip /underhand pulldowns x3
wide bar standing pulldowns to waist 'slight torso bend'x3

bi's
barbell'curl bar'curls x3
concentration on knee db curls x3
hammer curls x3
db curls x2

abs leg raises off bench with db between feet x5
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 08, 2015, 11:15:40 AM
No gym today.

We took my wife to the emergency last night because her blood sugar was at 40 and she was showing signs of going into a diabetic coma. She's was admitted to the hospital. She had to stay in emergency until they had a room ready which wasn't until 4:00 a.m. At least she got a little sleep last night. I can't say the same for our daughter and I.

The doctors aren't sure what is going on yet. After giving her a lot of carbs and orange juice her blood sugars are still low. She got a injection of dextrose to bring it up.  It is possible her pancreas isn't working right. When I talked to her this morning, she did sound more with it, so her blood sugar must be a little better. Once they figure out what's wrong and get her stabilized, we'll talk about her coming back home. Hospitals are just not a fun place to be.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 08, 2015, 12:31:13 PM
Prime I feel bad for all involved. The cliche' get well soon doesn't seem adequate. I'll say a prayer and hope the doctors find a solution.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 08, 2015, 12:42:11 PM
I'm retired and I was looking for a job for extra income. I thought I had a job at a school. They called and said the school board approved hiring me. They told me to come in today for paper work. When I arrived a guy who pushed for me said the superintend didn't want to hire me because he wanted his own guy. Now they said the minutes from the the school board meeting where they approved hiring me is missing. I hate NJ politics.

I came home and took off my suit from that missed opportunity to train legs.

Leg press 2 x 12
Dumbbell squats 2 x 12 (these are brutally hard. Back straight and sink your butt all the way down.)
leg extensions 2 x 20
standing leg curls 2 x 15

side bend with one dumbbell 1 x 15
situp on an incline 1 x 27
hanging leg raises 1 x max
weighted pulley crunches 1 x 30
weighted floor crunches 1 x 50

standing calf raise 2 x 15
seated calf raise 2 x 15

neck work

I then did some stretches for shoulders/pec, and legs.

Going to Harrah's casino tonight. Going to drink some cocktails and do some dancing. They always have a decent band playing at their club Eden.  Always have a good time but it goes by so quick and the cotton mouth hang over in the morning stinks. We do this about once a month and stay at a casino.


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 08, 2015, 01:18:21 PM
I'm retired and I was looking for a job for extra income. I thought I had a job at a school. They called and said the school board approved hiring me. They told me to come in today for paper work. When I arrived a guy who pushed for me said the superintend didn't want to hire me because he wanted his own guy. Now they said the minutes from the the school board meeting where they approved hiring me is missing. I hate NJ politics.

I came home and took off my suit from that missed opportunity to train legs.

Leg press 2 x 12
Dumbbell squats 2 x 12 (these are brutally hard. Back straight and sink your butt all the way down.)
leg extensions 2 x 20
standing leg curls 2 x 15

side bend with one dumbbell 1 x 15
situp on an incline 1 x 27
hanging leg raises 1 x max
weighted pulley crunches 1 x 30
weighted floor crunches 1 x 50

standing calf raise 2 x 15
seated calf raise 2 x 15

neck work

I then did some stretches for shoulders/pec, and legs.

Going to Harrah's casino tonight. Going to drink some cocktails and do some dancing. They always have a decent band playing at their club Eden.  Always have a good time but it goes by so quick and the cotton mouth hang over in the morning stinks. We do this about once a month and stay at a casino.



HAVE FUN,PLAY SOME SLOTS,BETTER LUCK ON JOB..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2015, 02:07:44 AM
Prime I feel bad for all involved. The cliche' get well soon doesn't seem adequate. I'll say a prayer and hope the doctors find a solution.
X2...
I'm retired and I was looking for a job for extra income. I thought I had a job at a school. They called and said the school board approved hiring me. They told me to come in today for paper work. When I arrived a guy who pushed for me said the superintend didn't want to hire me because he wanted his own guy. Now they said the minutes from the the school board meeting where they approved hiring me is missing. I hate NJ politics.

I came home and took off my suit from that missed opportunity to train legs.

Leg press 2 x 12
Dumbbell squats 2 x 12 (these are brutally hard. Back straight and sink your butt all the way down.)
leg extensions 2 x 20
standing leg curls 2 x 15

side bend with one dumbbell 1 x 15
situp on an incline 1 x 27
hanging leg raises 1 x max
weighted pulley crunches 1 x 30
weighted floor crunches 1 x 50

standing calf raise 2 x 15
seated calf raise 2 x 15

neck work

I then did some stretches for shoulders/pec, and legs.

Going to Harrah's casino tonight. Going to drink some cocktails and do some dancing. They always have a decent band playing at their club Eden.  Always have a good time but it goes by so quick and the cotton mouth hang over in the morning stinks. We do this about once a month and stay at a casino.



Mate that sort of thing happens here too with jobs. even if you are the best for the job itīs who you know.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 09, 2015, 05:51:54 AM
delts...

fr press 135/155/165/175-135 drop

side laterals seated 20/25/30/30

rear cable lateral raise x3..12 rep ,squeezed these back slow..

underhanded curl bar front raise premade bar 50/60/60..

smith machine upright rows x3

shrugs on hammer chest press,,,,2 plates ,3,4,4.5 ...
reverse x2 15 reps squeezed..


calves.. 3 sets standing calf raises drops 8-10 reps 200/180/160/140...these hurt ;D

forarms
cable wrist curls reverse/rope rolls weighted supersetted..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2015, 06:01:00 AM
 today POF Arm workout .. 

Lying Tri extension (Midrange)
standing overhead extensions (stretch)
one arm tri pushdowns (contracted)

barbell curls (midrange)
Incline DB curls (stretch)
concentration curls (contracted)

Exercises done in this order. Cardio was Crosstrainer. Itīs very stormy today and raining hard. Last time i was running in the woods i saw a couple of trees had been blown down because of stormy weather, rain donīt bother me but a tree landing on my head does  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 09, 2015, 07:49:08 AM
today POF Arm workout .. 

Lying Tri extension (Midrange)
standing overhead extensions (stretch)
one arm tri pushdowns (contracted)

barbell curls (midrange)
Incline DB curls (stretch)
concentration curls (contracted)

Exercises done in this order. Cardio was Crosstrainer. Itīs very stormy today and raining hard. Last time i was running in the woods i saw a couple of trees had been blown down because of stormy weather, rain donīt bother me but a tree landing on my head does  ;D
NICE DTRAIN...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 09, 2015, 04:54:39 PM
Rough day after the Casinos. Had a little to much fun.  Started off with Grand Marnier.  It's orange flavored Cognac in case you didn't know. Then the beer fest began. Watched the wife gambled and ended on the dance floor. The room in the casino was fantastic. Two big screen televisions. A living room and a bedroom. At check in the guy just gave us the suite for the same price. Maybe they ran out of regular rooms and had to give us the nice room.

Today feeling a little exhausted was delts and arms.

Dumbbell shoulder press 2 x 8 (made sure I went all the way down. No half reps)
dumbbell delt lateral raise 2 x 10
one arm pulley lateral raise 1 x 10
rear delt dumbbell lateral raise 2 x 10

Wanted to do something for the front delt. Tried single arm pulley raises for one set and they felt awkward. Then switched to one set of alternate dumbbell front raises. After doing both I think I felt the pulley more.

Shoulder shrug 2 x10

ez curl 2 x 10
straight bar pulley curl 2 x 10
concentration dumbbell curl 2x 12

conventional tricep pulley push downs 2 x 10
skull crushers with ez bar 2 x 8 ( I try to be strict having hurt my elbow region more than once with these)
reverse grip D handle one arm pulley tricep extensions 2 x 12

forearm curls 2 x 20
reverse forearm extensions 2 x 15
ivanko gripper 2 x20

weighted crunches 1 x 55
pulley crunches 2 x 30
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 09, 2015, 06:02:54 PM
I brought my wife home today. She is doing better. Her blood sugar levels have stabilized. She's really glad to be home. Hospitals stays are so boring.

Thanks guys for your positive thoughts. Surely, all that good energy helps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 09, 2015, 06:46:42 PM
I brought my wife home today. She is doing better. Her blood sugar levels have stabilized. She's really glad to be home. Hospitals stays are so boring.

Thanks guys for your positive thoughts. Surely, all that good energy helps.
good to hear...cheers mate,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 09, 2015, 07:55:03 PM
I brought my wife home today. She is doing better. Her blood sugar levels have stabilized. She's really glad to be home. Hospitals stays are so boring.

Thanks guys for your positive thoughts. Surely, all that good energy helps.

Great!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 11, 2015, 03:18:10 AM
weather is a bit better today. windy but still OK for a run. The woods will be muddy due to the heavy rain from the last two Days. still iīm like a kid i guess because i donīt mind the pools of water. Finish off with some Abs and stretching.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 11, 2015, 12:26:33 PM
I did absolutely nothing physical today on my working out day off. Everyone go back to what you were doing.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 11, 2015, 05:02:09 PM
saturday,,,just did total body /upper pump day at home

sun leg day,,,heavy/lots reps/quick pace was short breadth /pumped

leg press warmed...working 4/5/6/7/8 plates ..15/12/12/10/6

hacks 3/4/5 plates ...12/10/10

lunges up steps with 45 plate per hand x2 ,,go up twice/down

threw in in frog jumps up same steps x2 did 2 step jumps ,,,guy in my gym does 3 per jump..

extension 205/220/235


hams
sldl dbells 60/70/80/90
lying leg curls 140-155 3 sets

calves ,,,5 sets leg press

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 11, 2015, 08:41:45 PM
Steve and I are on the same page today. Sunday was my leg day too.

I made it to the gym by 3:30 p.m. which gave me an hour and a half to work out get back home and to get dinner on so that we'd eat at 6:00 p.m. My wife is on a really tight meal schedule since her recent bout with low blood sugar.

I had a great workout. Despite that I missed several leg workouts over the past few weeks, I was able to up the resistance a little, while maintaining good form. Aside from not getting in two sets of five of standing calf raises, I got through the whole routine. There were a couple of times I felt a bit winded, but all was good. I actually got a bit of a pump. If you knew how lite I am going on the weight, you'd be surprised at this. Maybe this just goes to show that going heavy isn't always necessary. Working legs on Sunday is great because the gym is almost never crowded.

Because of all the crap going on in our lives, I've missed a lot of days at the gym. Taking cues from you all, on the days I don't get to the gym I do something at home, even if it is only a series of stretching exercises. If I had a basement or other area where I could set up a weight room, I would. There are definitely occasions when it would come in handy to be able to actually do some lifting at home, although I prefer working out at the gym because it is more inspiring. There is almost always someone who has a killer physique that makes me want to work out all the harder.





Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on January 11, 2015, 09:14:48 PM
Steve and I are on the same page today. Sunday was my leg day too.

I made it to the gym by 3:30 p.m. which gave me an hour and a half to work out get back home and to get dinner on so that we'd eat at 6:00 p.m. My wife is on a really tight meal schedule since her recent bout with low blood sugar.

I had a great workout. Despite that I missed several leg workouts over the past few weeks, I was able to up the resistance a little, while maintaining good form. Aside from not getting in two sets of five of standing calf raises, I got through the whole routine. There were a couple of times I felt a bit winded, but all was good. I actually got a bit of a pump. If you knew how lite I am going on the weight, you'd be surprised at this. Maybe this just goes to show that going heavy isn't always necessary. Working legs on Sunday is great because the gym is almost never crowded.

Because of all the crap going on in our lives, I've missed a lot of days at the gym. Taking cues from you all, on the days I don't get to the gym I do something at home, even if it is only a series of stretching exercises. If I had a basement or other area where I could set up a weight room, I would. There are definitely occasions when it would come in handy to be able to actually do some lifting at home, although I prefer working out at the gym because it is more inspiring. There is almost always someone who has a killer physique that makes me want to work out all the harder.








How is your wife?

Thank you.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 11, 2015, 09:58:11 PM

How is your wife?

Thank you.

She's doing okay for the moment. She has made it clear that she does not want to be on permanent dialysis when that time comes. Her kidneys are failing. Currently, they are at 10%. Along with the kidney failure, her congestive heart failure has worsened. One possible cause of the recent situation with low blood sugar might be pancreatitis. She is strong willed and stubborn. She will do what she wants with regards to her health. We are all just trying to cope with her decisions.

No one knows when they are going to die. Sometimes people with a very grim health prognosis, will hang on for a very long time and sometimes people who are seemingly in great health suddenly die. The thing we are struggling with is that she is done with being sick and has come to the point of refusing further treatment. We respect her wishes as we hope other folks will respect ours. It is not an easy situation for anyone concerned.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on January 11, 2015, 10:15:49 PM
She's doing okay for the moment. She has made it clear that she does not want to be on permanent dialysis when that time comes. Her kidneys are failing. Currently, they are at 10%. Along with the kidney failure, her congestive heart failure has worsened. One possible cause of the recent situation with low blood sugar might be pancreatitis. She is strong willed and stubborn. She will do what she wants with regards to her health. We are all just trying to cope with her decisions.

No one knows when they are going to die. Sometimes people with a very grim health prognosis, will hang on for a very long time and sometimes people who are seemingly in great health suddenly die. The thing we are struggling with is that she is done with being sick and has come to the point of refusing further treatment. We respect her wishes as we hope other folks will respect ours. It is not an easy situation for anyone concerned.

I understand her desire.  I have a friend that recently passed from breast cancer.  It had been gone for many years but when it returned she fought it as best she could (without telling anyone it had returned) and decided she was done fighting.  She passed on her own terms and peacefully.

We had a service for her.  I was not there but learned that a chaplain spoke of how her giving up on fighting it was actually her giving up on God.  When I heard of this I was told not to speak to him as I have no problem telling anyone when I think they're full of crap.  A co-worker and friend said he agreed with the chaplains assessment.

I told him (with all the brotherly love I could muster, mind you) that I did not merely think he was full of shit, but I  knew it.    Your wife is to be the center of my prayers this night.  I have no claim to a direct line to anyone, least of all God but that has never stopped me from asking what I think is worth asking for.

The two of you are more than worth it.  So that you will know I speak from the heart I will say this.  Which is easier to say, I will pray for you or be well in His name?   Both are well meaning but I would much rather say the latter of the two for while prayer is nice, to be made whole is far, far better. 

Please give her my love.  I would not say as much were it not so.  I am not the best example of what Christ would show the world but at the very least I am honest.

In all ways and for always, be well my friend.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 12, 2015, 04:57:39 AM
some nice support shown here ,kind words/thoughts....the longer u live/learn/see ,,it feels like there is not any good left over in this world,even people in your own family can turn or be spiteful at times to you...I've been lucky my family gets along even with later on divorce...my extended cousins/aunts that's a different story  :P.....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2015, 06:44:28 AM
some nice support shown here ,kind words/thoughts....the longer u live/learn/see ,,it feels like there is not any good left over in this world,even people in your own family can turn or be spiteful at times to you...I've been lucky my family gets along even with later on divorce...my extended cousins/aunts that's a different story  :P.....
A very moving post from Scotty.. top Man.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on January 12, 2015, 07:16:12 AM
She's doing okay for the moment. She has made it clear that she does not want to be on permanent dialysis when that time comes. Her kidneys are failing. Currently, they are at 10%. Along with the kidney failure, her congestive heart failure has worsened. One possible cause of the recent situation with low blood sugar might be pancreatitis. She is strong willed and stubborn. She will do what she wants with regards to her health. We are all just trying to cope with her decisions.

No one knows when they are going to die. Sometimes people with a very grim health prognosis, will hang on for a very long time and sometimes people who are seemingly in great health suddenly die. The thing we are struggling with is that she is done with being sick and has come to the point of refusing further treatment. We respect her wishes as we hope other folks will respect ours. It is not an easy situation for anyone concerned.
Stay strong, Prime.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 12, 2015, 07:17:15 AM
Stay strong, Prime.
8)...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 12, 2015, 12:05:45 PM
I appreciate all of you and your kind thoughts. Scott's comments are especially heart warming and comforting for me to read.

I am a person who normally prepares by rehearsing events. Although my mom lived with us the last three years of her life when she was slowly dying from the ravages of emphysema caused by decades of heavy smoking, that situation happened a long time ago and did not prepare me for this one. Despite her living dangerously all her life, in the end she did everything to try and stay alive. Her will to live was very strong.

The most difficult part is that I normally try to fix things when they go wrong....hence taking my wife to the hospital recently. It will be a challenge to just let her go instead of doing something to try and get her back on track. Of course, there is no way to know how this will play out until the time comes.

Today is a good day for my wife. Her blood sugar was right on par. She's up and waiting for me to fix her breakfast after a 13 hour sleep. If sleeping heals she should be well.

Monday is not a gym day on my current routine. I am going to run some errands and hopefully put up the other two light fixtures out front. My legs are nicely sore from yesterday. I am amazed how good a workout I am getting with lite resistance and high reps. I actually feel like I get more pump doing this for legs then when I was going heavy. I think my movements are more complete (longer range).
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 12, 2015, 12:29:19 PM
Chest day.

Bench 2 of 6 then 1 x 1
incline bench 2 x 6
flat flies 2 x 10
push ups 2 x max
pullover with ez curl bar 1 x 10

Incline sit ups 1 x max
hanging leg raises 1 x max
weighted crunches 1 x 20
pulley crunches 1 x 20

Seems my shoulder rehab is going slowly but in a positive direction. If anyone is interested in what I'm doing for rehab I can do a post on it but it will take me some time to get it together. I am not a doctor or a physical therapist. If you have a tear you can make it a lot worst doing what I recommend so get a doctor's okay first. It's a combo of rotator cuff strengthening exercises and stretching. Most guys do one or two rotator cuff movements when I believe you should do more due to the multitude of directions a shoulder moves the arm. Second part is stretching. Benching is by it's nature an exercise that can destroy and limit flexibility of the the joint.  Both rotator cuff exercises and flexibility exercises should be gentle. Nothing to failure and gentle stretching.  

On a side note I believe push ups is one of the most healthy things you can do to keep a healthy shoulder healthy is push ups. The bench in the history of exercise is a relatively new invention. Prior to the bench the most popular exercise for bragging about strength was the clean and press. Without the lean back I think it's still a better indicator of strength than lying on a padded bed pushing a bar.

Anyway I have problems with both shoulders and one is really bad. I don't know what caused the problems completely. I have arthritis, to much use over the years, and hitting the heavy bag are definitely contributors to the problem. In my 20's, 30's, 40's and in my early 50's I never had a problem with my shoulders except for one incident in my late teens early twenties.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 13, 2015, 12:42:01 AM
Chest day.

Bench 2 of 6 then 1 x 1
incline bench 2 x 6
flat flies 2 x 10
push ups 2 x max
pullover with ez curl bar 1 x 10

Incline sit ups 1 x max
hanging leg raises 1 x max
weighted crunches 1 x 20
pulley crunches 1 x 20

Seems my shoulder rehab is going slowly but in a positive direction. If anyone is interested in what I'm doing for rehab I can do a post on it but it will take me some time to get it together. I am not a doctor or a physical therapist. If you have a tear you can make it a lot worst doing what I recommend so get a doctor's okay first. It's a combo of rotator cuff strengthening exercises and stretching. Most guys do one or two rotator cuff movements when I believe you should do more due to the multitude of directions a shoulder moves the arm. Second part is stretching. Benching is by it's nature an exercise that can destroy and limit flexibility of the the joint.  Both rotator cuff exercises and flexibility exercises should be gentle. Nothing to failure and gentle stretching.  

On a side note I believe push ups is one of the most healthy things you can to keep a healthy shoulder healthy is push ups. The bench in the history of exercise is relatively new invention. Prior to the bench the most popular exercise for bragging about strength was the clean and press. Without the lean back I think it's still a better indicator of strength than lying on a padded bed pushing a bar.

Anyway I have problems with both shoulders and one is really bad. I don't know what caused the problems completely. I have arthritis, to much use over the years, and hitting the heavy bag are definitely contributors to the problem. In my 20's, 30's, 40's and in my early 50's I never had a problem with my shoulders except for one incident in my late teens early twenties.  
"a padded bed pushing a bar"... ;D you are right about the good old push up. I have done it with a Plate on my upper back or a weighted ruck sack. the hardest is "Tiger dips" for triceps. A push up variation not for the faint hearted much harder than any Cable pushdown.. ;D pure Tri strength
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 13, 2015, 01:09:34 AM
been very busy the last few Days with a lot of new people in the Gym... last Night i did my POF chest workout.

Incline BB press 4 sets
incline DB flyes 4 sets (stretch in lower position)
Incline Cable Flyes 4 sets(contraction in top position)
Decline BB press 4 sets.

I get of course a good stretch with cables too but i like DB flyes because i can move more freely in the Bottom position. doing them similar to what Arnold did really working in the lower position. the cables really get the Contraction in the upper position ..   SQUEEZE :)

Abs: hanging knee raises 3 sets. Calfes 5 sets standing on smith machine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 13, 2015, 06:59:20 AM
CHEST/TRI/ABS

FDB PRESS....WARM UP SET,,65/75/80/85..12/10/10/6
DECLINE X3 ..STAYED LIGHTER ON THESE DUE TO 'TWINGE'IN OUTER PEC LAST WEEK,,FELT BETTER THO...
IN DB PRESS..60/65/65 10/10/8
PULLOVER DBELLS..60/70/80
CABLE CROSSOVERS X4

TRIS
PUSHDOWNS X4
OVERHEAD ROPE EXTENSIONS X3
CLOSE GRIP BENCH SUPERSET WITH DB/EXTENSIONSX3

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 13, 2015, 07:11:00 AM
CHEST/TRI/ABS

FDB PRESS....WARM UP SET,,65/75/80/85..12/10/10/6
DECLINE X3 ..STAYED LIGHTER ON THESE DUE TO 'TWINGE'IN OUTER PEC LAST WEEK,,FELT BETTER THO...
IN DB PRESS..60/65/65 10/10/8
PULLOVER DBELLS..60/70/80
CABLE CROSSOVERS X4

TRIS
PUSHDOWNS X4
OVERHEAD ROPE EXTENSIONS X3
CLOSE GRIP BENCH SUPERSET WITH DB/EXTENSIONSX3

ABS

Nice Work as always Steve...bet your Tris were fried with that last superset...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 13, 2015, 09:46:45 AM
Nice Work as always Steve...bet your Tris were fried with that last superset...
THANKS,,YEAH GREAT WORKOUT...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 13, 2015, 10:05:53 AM
THANKS,,YEAH GREAT WORKOUT...
we all know Tris make the Arm but in your case i think itīs true. Great Tri strength and staminia.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: T-REX007 on January 13, 2015, 03:11:44 PM
Chest / tri's  /  traps on Monday

Bwt 215

Flat bench
work sets :
325 x 5
335 x 5
345 x 5
355 x 5
365 x 5

Incline d-bell presses -

100's x 5 x 5

Tri's -

weighted dips -
Bwt x 10
Bwt + 50 x 5
Bwt + 75 x 5
Bwt + 100 x 5
Bwt + 125 x 5
Bwt + 150 x 5

Kettlebell incline skull crushers - kettlebell in each hand

50's x 5 x 5

Shrugs - 3 x 12 with dumbbells

Working out with this younger guy - he's probably 35 "ish", very strong gym rat for sure, really pushed me tonight !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on January 13, 2015, 06:57:50 PM
Too tired today.  I barely got through  5X5 on back and then chest before I pooped out.  Hopefully tomorrow will be better.  Shoulders and arms and if I am not up to a few rounds of Giant Sets then I will do 5X5 for everything.

Just had two very large roast beef, turkey and cheese sandwiches washed down with a half gallon of ice cold milk.  I like milk.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 13, 2015, 07:06:58 PM
Chest / tri's  /  traps on Monday

Bwt 215

Flat bench
work sets :
325 x 5
335 x 5
345 x 5
355 x 5
365 x 5

Incline d-bell presses -

100's x 5 x 5

Tri's -

weighted dips -
Bwt x 10
Bwt + 50 x 5
Bwt + 75 x 5
Bwt + 100 x 5
Bwt + 125 x 5
Bwt + 150 x 5

Kettlebell incline skull crushers - kettlebell in each hand

50's x 5 x 5

Shrugs - 3 x 12 with dumbbells

Working out with this younger guy - he's probably 35 "ish", very strong gym rat for sure, really pushed me tonight !
strong chest pressing there,,,props..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2015, 05:15:42 AM
legs yesterday.. POF.

Squats 4 sets
Seated leg press 4 sets
Stiff Deads 4 sets
leg Curls (Feet flexed towards shins) 4 sets
Seated calf raises 5 sets

I wanted to do Donkey calf raises but in the Gym not practical at times. Donīt have a machine to simulate a partner on my back. Can use a weighted belt but too much trouble to be honest. Lucky at home My son jumps on my back when i do them. Really feel my calfes with this great old school exercise. Still... i like seated calf raises too. I like to play around with foot positions too.. wether it helps much is a debate in itself but i do it anyway. My "Tibialis Anterior" is worked well with the flexed position of my feet in my leg curls. So all in all "killing two Birds with one stone"...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 14, 2015, 05:37:35 AM
legs yesterday.. POF.

Squats 4 sets
Seated leg press 4 sets
Stiff Deads 4 sets
leg Curls (Feet flexed towards shins) 4 sets
Seated calf raises 5 sets

I wanted to do Donkey calf raises but in the Gym not practical at times. Donīt have a machine to simulate a partner on my back. Can use a weighted belt but too much trouble to be honest. Lucky at home My son jumps on my back when i do them. Really feel my calfes with this great old school exercise. Still... i like seated calf raises too. I like to play around with foot positions too.. wether it helps much is a debate in itself but i do it anyway. My "Tibialis Anterior" is worked well with the flexed position of my feet in my leg curls. So all in all "killing two Birds with one stone"...
I love donkey calf I've used 2 versions 1 good 1 bad,,,today no version at my gym  :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2015, 05:48:59 AM
I love donkey calf I've used 2 versions 1 good 1 bad,,,today no version at my gym  :-\
apart from a few older guys at the Gym most donīt know what it is...  ::)  seated,standing and maybe calf raises using the leg press machine and thatīs it..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on January 14, 2015, 06:37:41 AM
We have that donkey calf machine in our gym, about 3 people know how to use it. Also have a seated unilateral calf machine where the foot placement swivels in all directions, could be an ankle breaker but works awesome.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2015, 06:42:01 AM
We have that donkey calf machine in our gym, about 3 people know how to use it. Also have a seated unilateral calf machine where the foot placement swivels in all directions, could be an ankle breaker but works awesome.
never seen or used a machine like that. sounds great. The Gyms here are good but not so advanced like in the US. In the Big places sure but not where i live.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2015, 07:08:47 AM
Rep range is important too in calf training. I start off full range and also do partial reps in between too. Not "Burns" at the end but mix it up. Full stretch and short movements. I have found this beneficial in my training. 2-3 full reps then some short fast reps. Fatigue is quicker.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 14, 2015, 07:18:08 AM
Rep range is important too in calf training. I start off full range and also do partial reps in between too. Not "Burns" at the end but mix it up. Full stretch and short movements. I have found this beneficial in my training. 2-3 full reps then some short fast reps. Fatigue is quicker.
TRUTH...SAME FOR ME HI/LOW FAST /SLOW/HALF/FULL/SQUEEZE
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2015, 07:20:39 AM
TRUTH...SAME FOR ME HI/LOW FAST /SLOW/HALF/FULL/SQUEEZE
Abs are the same.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 14, 2015, 11:01:51 AM
Worked back and abs yesterday. I hope to get in arms today. It's going to be a challenge because I have a lot of commitments today, but I need to make hitting the gym a priority for my health both physical and mental.

I continue to be amazed at the results of working out with really lite weights, going slow and using what I hope is excellent form. My legs are mildly sore from Sunday and my back muscles have that good slightly sore feeling which makes one more aware of their muscles. It makes me feel more alive.

My wife saw the nephrologist (kidney doctor) yesterday. Nothing drastic. Kidney function is as expected. She tweaked some of her meds to see if it will bring down her high calcium levels. My wife reconfirmed with the doctor that she does not want dialysis should it become necessary.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2015, 11:33:44 AM
Worked back and abs yesterday. I hope to get in arms today. It's going to be a challenge because I have a lot of commitments today, but I need to make hitting the gym a priority for my health both physical and mental.

I continue to be amazed at the results of working out with really lite weights, going slow and using what I hope is excellent form. My legs are mildly sore from Sunday and my back muscles have that good slightly sore feeling which makes one more aware of their muscles. It makes me feel more alive.

My wife saw the nephrologist (kidney doctor) yesterday. Nothing drastic. Kidney function is as expected. She tweaked some of her meds to see if it will bring down her high calcium levels. My wife reconfirmed with the doctor that she does not want dialysis should it become necessary.
Jay we are thinking of your wife.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on January 14, 2015, 11:53:02 AM
never seen or used a machine like that. sounds great. The Gyms here are good but not so advanced like in the US. In the Big places sure but not where i live.
Its got 2 pedals and your legs are straight out in front. I'll check name brand tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2015, 11:54:51 AM
Its got 2 pedals and your legs are straight out in front. I'll check name brand tomorrow.
Cheers  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 14, 2015, 07:41:27 PM
Today, I escaped to the gym and worked shoulders and calves. I was in a very pissy mood, which got my adrenaline going bigtime. No way could I rest the prescribed 120 seconds between sets. I was back at it in 30 seconds or less. The gym was unusually crowded. Someone was on the shoulder press machine I like to use so I did front presses on the smith and it felt damn good too.

I also use a machine to do rear delts mainly because my arms are so long that doing them laying on an incline bench is awkward. This fellow with earphones in was on the machine I wanted to use. I asked if I could work in. He said, "I only have two more sets." Then he asked if I would need to change the settings. I said, "I'll wait." I swear those two sets took ten minutes. I wanted to pull him off the seat and stomp on his ugly mug, but clearly I resisted.

If it had not been for mister-slowpoke-hog-the-equipment guy, I would have finished my routine in record time. I need to tan, but that seemed too laidback or laid-down for my mood today.

I am enjoying my second glass of wine right now. This is it for the wine though. Next up, tea.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 14, 2015, 07:46:05 PM
back

hammer reverse pulldown x4 worked up to 2 plates per side and some change 12/10/10/8
cable low rows x3 180/195/200
tbar rows underhand grip 2.5 plates/3/3 ..sets 10..
pulldowns behind the neck x3x10
rope pulls to waist standing x3


bis
seated cable curls x4
db curls done together 35/35/40
premade bar close inner grip as u could go x3 70 lbs x3
seated concentration curls on knee x2

abs
crunch roller x5 25/30 reps
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 15, 2015, 04:51:07 PM
Feeling under the weather. There is a bad virus going around NJ. Either a terrible cough or out the other end. Only had a work out an a half this week. My son's got hit hard with a terrible fever. I'm just run down with a sore throat so I can't complain. So many people sick every where I go here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on January 15, 2015, 06:03:47 PM
Rest day today.  Tomorrow will be chest and back at home in the garage.  The usual doctor visit on Friday came today.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 16, 2015, 04:01:48 AM
I will train Shoulders and arms tonight. Was back Home late last night because i was the whole Day in Hannover. I normally hit shoulders first but many say that it affects Bicep work later on if training Biceps afterwards. Anyone experience this? suppose Drag curls could help with this problem.



Midrange: Standing BB press
stretch: lying incline dB lateral raise.
Contracted: Face pulls

Ez bar curls
Incline curls
Concentration curls with cable

Seated machine extensions or lying ez bar extensions
overhead extensions
Cable kickbacks.

Will work with 3 sets per exercise.


                
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 17, 2015, 07:12:16 AM
Today i was going to go for a run but i am starting to feel a bit weird.. Coming down with flu i think. Wife has been ill the last few days with it. Just going to watch a good film and stretch out on the couch with a blanket...like a wimp   :-[ :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 17, 2015, 10:26:42 AM
catch up here...

delts/forarms

behind neck press x4 last set drop,,,
side laterals ..25/30/30/30
front raise reg over hand grip used curl bar premade weighted 50/60/70
lying rear lateral raise,,laid on stomach ,used 1st peg on bench up so slight incline ,,these felt good
cable up rights  x3

shrugs,,225/275/295/295
rear shrugs 225/275/275

foramrs
cable reverse wrist curl and behind back wrist curl
weighted rope rolls x3


leg day today heavy duty

leg press warmed up...4/6/7/8 plates per side repped 12/10/10/10
hack squats closed stance 3/4/5 plates 10 /10/10
walking lunges x2
exyension 205/220/235 sets 12

hams
sldl 135/185/225/225
seated leg curls 180/195/210

calves 3 sets drops 200/180/160/140 sets 10 per these are brutal...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 17, 2015, 02:38:20 PM
catch up here...

delts/forarms

behind neck press x4 last set drop,,,
side laterals ..25/30/30/30
front raise reg over hand grip used curl bar premade weighted 50/60/70
lying rear lateral raise,,laid on stomach ,used 1st peg on bench up so slight incline ,,these felt good
cable up rights  x3

shrugs,,225/275/295/295
rear shrugs 225/275/275

foramrs
cable reverse wrist curl and behind back wrist curl
weighted rope rolls x3


leg day today heavy duty

leg press warmed up...4/6/7/8 plates per side repped 12/10/10/10
hack squats closed stance 3/4/5 plates 10 /10/10
walking lunges x2
exyension 205/220/235 sets 12

hams
sldl 135/185/225/225
seated leg curls 180/195/210

calves 3 sets drops 200/180/160/140 sets 10 per these are brutal...

good drills man ... i need to Do something tomorrow
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 17, 2015, 11:12:50 PM
Didn't get to the gym yesterday or today. I did install two more light fixtures out front and then went on the hunt for new bronze house numbers to replace the 70's style wood ones which no longer fit. I found some Baldwin numbers at a downtown hardware store. They are solid brass with a bronze finish. They have a good heft and are sized large enough to see from the street.

Tomorrow, a fellow from an antique/used furniture store is coming to pick up the furniture stashed in the garage. It will be nice to be able to put the car up again. It has been almost a year since we've had use of the garage. It is hard getting rid of some of these pieces because we've had them for years, but with our kids living here there just isn't a place for them any longer.

Watch out for that flu that's going around. My niece called to tell me my sister went by ambulance to emergency because she couldn't breath. Seems she has an upper respiratory infection. The hospital treated her and released her. I am supposed to take her in for an EEG next Friday. Hope she isn't contagious since she'll be in the car with me for hours. She lives an hour away. I'll be driving back and forth to Salem a lot next Friday.

My wife is doing OK. She slept most of the day one day last week. She literally couldn't stay awake. It was concerning, but she snapped out of the Rip Van Winkle phase the next day. Each day brings something different.

 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 18, 2015, 10:10:14 AM
Didn't get to the gym yesterday or today. I did install two more light fixtures out front and then went on the hunt for new bronze house numbers to replace the 70's style wood ones which no longer fit. I found some Baldwin numbers at a downtown hardware store. They are solid brass with a bronze finish. They have a good heft and are sized large enough to see from the street.

Tomorrow, a fellow from an antique/used furniture store is coming to pick up the furniture stashed in the garage. It will be nice to be able to put the car up again. It has been almost a year since we've had use of the garage. It is hard getting rid of some of these pieces because we've had them for years, but with our kids living here there just isn't a place for them any longer.

Watch out for that flu that's going around. My niece called to tell me my sister went by ambulance to emergency because she couldn't breath. Seems she has an upper respiratory infection. The hospital treated her and released her. I am supposed to take her in for an EEG next Friday. Hope she isn't contagious since she'll be in the car with me for hours. She lives an hour away. I'll be driving back and forth to Salem a lot next Friday.

My wife is doing OK. She slept most of the day one day last week. She literally couldn't stay awake. It was concerning, but she snapped out of the Rip Van Winkle phase the next day. Each day brings something different.

 
I felt good today. The Days rest yesterday did me the world of good. Watched that brad Pitt Film Fury...was not bad.  Went for a Run Today and felt strong. Prefer running later in the Day about 4/5 pm.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2015, 04:28:29 PM
I felt good today. The Days rest yesterday did me the world of good. Watched that brad Pitt Film Fury...was not bad.  Went for a Run Today and felt strong. Prefer running later in the Day about 4/5 pm.
just read about plitt,,freaking tragic...day off training,enjoyed some good food/espresso,made wife and step sister capuccinos.did housework  :-\,, :P..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on January 18, 2015, 05:12:24 PM
Eight sets of back and eight of chest in my garage today.  Didn't feel great but it also didn't feel like crap.  I'd call it a good workout.  More to come in the morning.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 19, 2015, 02:04:43 AM
just read about plitt,,freaking tragic...day off training,enjoyed some good food/espresso,made wife and step sister capuccinos.did housework  :-\,, :P..
is your step sister Cute  ;D ?  yes very sad about Greg Plitt.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 19, 2015, 02:05:57 AM
Eight sets of back and eight of chest in my garage today.  Didn't feel great but it also didn't feel like crap.  I'd call it a good workout.  More to come in the morning.


Good to see you are Back into it Scotty. Chest+Back is great. Supersets i like on this.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 19, 2015, 08:48:17 AM
Today chest,abs ,calfs

Incline BB press
incline DB flyes
Incline Cable Flyes
Decline BB press

4 sets per ex.
Abs.. Incline sit ups 3x20-30, Hanging knee raises 3x20-30
calfes: standing calf raises on smith machine 5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2015, 09:20:59 AM
Today chest,abs ,calfs

Incline BB press
incline DB flyes
Incline Cable Flyes
Decline BB press

4 sets per ex.
Abs.. Incline sit ups 3x20-30, Hanging knee raises 3x20-30
calfes: standing calf raises on smith machine 5 sets

I like cable flyes,,need to revisit these..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 19, 2015, 09:45:14 AM
I like cable flyes,,need to revisit these..
yes,, nice contraction.,,, 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on January 19, 2015, 06:09:38 PM
Good to see you are Back into it Scotty. Chest+Back is great. Supersets i like on this.

Thanks!

It feels good to do even light weights.  Today I did 6 sets each of shoulders, biceps and triceps.  Reps were between 5 and 35 each set.  Tomorrow, more back and chest.

As I am something of a pussy of a cripple, I can no longer do leg work. Not as bad of as many but enough to permanently disable me and prevent me from doing the single best exercise in the world.  Squats.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2015, 07:14:14 PM
chest

db press...60/70/80/80
decline press x4
pullovers db 60/70/80
pec deck x3
finished 2 sets lower cable flyes standing

tris supersets

close grip  with rope pusdowns x4

dip machine with reverse underhand pushdowns x4

2 sets finish seated tricep extension machine

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 20, 2015, 05:04:06 AM
This is a great article on Plantar Fasciitis.. common among runners. Have been feeling this for a while and the article shows some great stretches. Have you ever had this Rich? feel it on my left heel. itīs worse first thing in the morning until i walk a few minutes and stretch the tissue.. might have to Cycle for a while or Crosser.
http://running.competitor.com/2014/06/photos/new-techniques-treating-plantar-fasciitis_96398
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 20, 2015, 08:36:08 AM
Legs today..

Squats Smith machine (M) 4 sets
Leg press (M) 4 sets
Gironda Power Extension leaning back, (C) 4 sets
Stiff Deads (M,S) 4 sets
Leg Curls, Feet flexed towards shins,(C) 4 sets

calfes i just did some stretches today. foot position on the leg curls felt good. No Cardio.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2015, 08:39:18 AM
Legs today..

Squats Smith machine (M) 4 sets
Leg press (M) 4 sets
Gironda Power Extension leaning back, (C) 4 sets
Stiff Deads (M,S) 4 sets
Leg Curls, Feet flexed towards shins,(C) 4 sets

calfes i just did some stretches today. foot position on the leg curls felt good. No Cardio.
NICE,,,MY CALVES ARE STILL SORE FROM SAT DROP SETS ...MY CALVES HAVE GROWN LAST FEW MONTHS DUE TO THIS WORKLOAD,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 20, 2015, 08:45:19 AM
NICE,,,MY CALVES ARE STILL SORE FROM SAT DROP SETS ...MY CALVES HAVE GROWN LAST FEW MONTHS DUE TO THIS WORKLOAD,,
You are a Beast steve  ;D, filled a small plastic bottle with water and stuck it in the Freezer and can later roll my Heel over it . Cool and massage my heel/foot. stretches felt good. Infact one guy came over and asked what i was doing so i explained.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2015, 08:58:04 AM
You are a Beast steve  ;D, filled a small plastic bottle with water and stuck it in the Freezer and can later roll my Heel over it . Cool and massage my heel/foot. stretches felt good. Infact one guy came over and asked what i was doing so i explained.. ;D
8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 21, 2015, 08:23:21 PM
This is a great article on Plantar Fasciitis.. common among runners. Have been feeling this for a while and the article shows some great stretches. Have you ever had this Rich? feel it on my left heel. itīs worse first thing in the morning until i walk a few minutes and stretch the tissue.. might have to Cycle for a while or Crosser.
http://running.competitor.com/2014/06/photos/new-techniques-treating-plantar-fasciitis_96398

Yes, I had it about 5 years ago and right now. Just got a shot of cortisone in my arch. Stretch your calf with both a locked leg and a bent leg. Often a tight calf and soleus muscle contributes to the problem.

  Get something that dorsi flexs your foot when you sleep. What happen when you sleep your foot goes forward and the arch gets tight. When you walk in the morning you could be tearing it more.

 Use an anti inflammatory either over the counter like Aleve or recommended prescription by a doctor.  Part of the problem is inflammation of the fibrous tissue that is the arch.  Mine hurt a lot less after using Aleve for a couple of days.

 I feel your pain. 5 years ago I had it for months and it went a away.  Be careful with weight lifting calf work. It can tighten the arch severely. Many times a tight inflamed arch is tied to tight calves.

 Last resort is a cortisone shot and an operation.  A cortisone shot was really painful but it knocked out 80% of the pain. I have read it can weaken tendons and connective tissues.

 Lastly look into get a hard arch insert in your shoe for walking around. It will press into your arch and stretch it out. I found this one is good if you don't get a custom one from a doctor. It feels like a rock at first but it will stabilize your foot and push into that arch. I can't run with it but walking around you will grow to love it. https://www.birkenstockusa.com/products/men/insoles/arch-support/blue-footbed-casual/1100

I'm now walking for cardio.  I can't run. I don't know if I'm doing more damage by walking 5 miles the past two days. I would like to think I'm helping it. At it's worse prior to the shot I was limping all day. Hope we both get better soon. I think half of the problem is that many modern men have very sedentary life styles then when they exercise after sitting around for hours the plantar can get inflamed or tears. Since I retired and I'm unemployed I sit around the house a lot. Then I put on my running shoes and run like a lunatic. I think we all need outside of exercise periods where we stand for a length of time and the very least some time walking outside of our exercise programs.  This will keep everything in tune for the real exercise programs.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2015, 04:51:42 AM
Yes, I had it about 5 years ago and right now. Just got a shot of cortisone in my arch. Stretch your calf with both a locked leg and a bent leg. Often a tight calf and soleus muscle contributes to the problem.

  Get something that dorsi flexs your foot when you sleep. What happen when you sleep your foot goes forward and the arch gets tight. When you walk in the morning you could be tearing it more.

 Use an anti inflammatory either over the counter like Aleve or recommended prescription by a doctor.  Part of the problem is inflammation of the fibrous tissue that is the arch.  Mine hurt a lot less after using Aleve for a couple of days.

 I feel your pain. 5 years ago I had it for months and it went a away.  Be careful with weight lifting calf work. It can tighten the arch severely. Many times a tight inflamed arch is tied to tight calves.

 Last resort is a cortisone shot and an operation.  A cortisone shot was really painful but it knocked out 80% of the pain. I have read it can weaken tendons and connective tissues.

 Lastly look into get a hard arch insert in your shoe for walking around. It will press into your arch and stretch it out. I found this one is good if you don't get a custom one from a doctor. It feels like a rock at first but it will stabilize your foot and push into that arch. I can't run with it but walking around you will grow to love it. https://www.birkenstockusa.com/products/men/insoles/arch-support/blue-footbed-casual/1100

I'm now walking for cardio.  I can't run. I don't know if I'm doing more damage by walking 5 miles the past two days. I would like to think I'm helping it. At it's worse prior to the shot I was limping all day. Hope we both get better soon. I think half of the problem is that many modern men have very sedentary life styles then when they exercise after sitting around for hours the plantar can get inflamed or tears. Since I retired and I'm unemployed I sit around the house a lot. Then I put on my running shoes and run like a lunatic. I think we all need outside of exercise periods where we stand for a length of time and the very least some time walking outside of our exercise programs.  This will keep everything in tune for the real exercise programs.  
I am actually on my feet all Day walking around. I did read that walking around a lot in Bare feet is also a problem. When i am at home i am bare foot a lot of the time. i can run but later when i am lying down and get up to walk i feel it. Cycling does seem to be ok. Stretches seem to be helping. Rolling a cold water bottle under my foot was great last night...  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2015, 04:59:33 AM
Back...

Front chins (m)
BB Pullovers (s)
undergrip pulldowns (c)
Wide Grip BB Rows (c,s)

Close Grip upright rows
Db shrugs

I did 3-4 sets per exercise ( 3 on the Traps). Cardio was on the exercise Bike 30 mins. interval training programme.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2015, 05:06:22 AM
back

haven't done chins in a bit...started 2 wide and 2 narrow

bent over rows 185/205/225

low cable pulley rows single arm at a time x3

pulldowns front small narrow  bar x3

reverse grip stretch and pull to waist standing 'slight torso bend'x3

weighted hypersx3x15

bis
seated bicep curl x3 did something different start at top position and go down but one handed come back up 2 handed 'then switch hands on down side'

curls weighted premade bars 80 lbs x3

inc curls 30.35/35 dbells

single arm rope hammers x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2015, 09:04:57 AM
back

haven't done chins in a bit...started 2 wide and 2 narrow

bent over rows 185/205/225

low cable pulley rows single arm at a time x3

pulldowns front small narrow  bar x3

reverse grip stretch and pull to waist standing 'slight torso bend'x3

weighted hypersx3x15

bis
seated bicep curl x3 did something different start at top position and go down but one handed come back up 2 handed 'then switch hands on down side'

curls weighted premade bars 80 lbs x3

inc curls 30.35/35 dbells

single arm rope hammers x2

abs
B I G  STEVO::::::: ;D  NICE BRO
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2015, 09:07:21 AM
B I G  STEVO::::::: ;D  NICE BRO
I love back training at gym...delts at home tonite  :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2015, 09:15:23 AM
I love back training at gym...delts at home tonite  :P
yeah,sometimes i train Delts at Home too. Easy to train with Free weights. You got a cable set up too so you have more variety.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2015, 09:21:31 AM
yeah,sometimes i train Delts at Home too. Easy to train with Free weights. You got a cable set up too so you have more variety.
I'M LUCKY I DO CABLE SHRUGS,AND SIDE RAISES,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2015, 09:30:06 AM
I'M LUCKY I DO CABLE SHRUGS,AND SIDE RAISES,,,
Face pulls i like for rear Delts and cable upright rows too. Steve Reeves was a big fan of Cables.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2015, 09:41:34 AM
 :)
http://www.davidgentle.com/ironindex/reeves.htm
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 22, 2015, 07:22:54 PM
Delts home
Db pressx4
Trisets side/front/rear x3
Upright cable rowx3
Bertil raise x3
Triset side raise at side/db shrug/rear shrug cable
Front cable shrugx2

Calves single leg holding db



Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on January 22, 2015, 08:04:32 PM
Njflex do you use a belt for squats?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 22, 2015, 08:25:33 PM
I've been exercising at home lately due to time constraints. Last night I was using the spring loaded bend bar for chest, shoulders and traps. The exercise went well despite that it's been a long time since I've used this equipment. I think because there is no margin for error, it compels one to succeed when using this. Anyway, I woke up with a really sore right shoulder and triceps muscle. Obviously, I tweaked something without even realizing it at the time.

On the plus side, my pecs were really pumped after 4 sets of ten reps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 23, 2015, 04:57:34 AM
I've been exercising at home lately due to time constraints. Last night I was using the spring loaded bend bar for chest, shoulders and traps. The exercise went well despite that it's been a long time since I've used this equipment. I think because there is no margin for error, it compels one to succeed when using this. Anyway, I woke up with a really sore right shoulder and triceps muscle. Obviously, I tweaked something without even realizing it at the time.

On the plus side, my pecs were really pumped after 4 sets of ten reps.
I still got an old style Bullworker and chest expanders old school style wooden handles and steel springs...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 23, 2015, 04:58:17 AM
Njflex do you use a belt for squats?
yes..heavier sets.you?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 23, 2015, 05:27:46 AM
Delts home
Db pressx4
Trisets side/front/rear x3
Upright cable rowx3
Bertil raise x3
Triset side raise at side/db shrug/rear shrug cable
Front cable shrugx2

Calves single leg holding db




nice tri set. one machine i did like for shoulders was Hammer strength. Miss using it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 23, 2015, 05:54:31 AM
nice tri set. one machine i did like for shoulders was Hammer strength. Miss using it.

WE HAVE ONE,,IT ACTUALLY WORKS BETTER FACING IN THAN NORMAL WAY..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on January 23, 2015, 07:46:13 AM
yes..heavier sets.you?
For squats I go to 405 beltless, and deads I go to 495-545 beltless, after that I throw it on.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 23, 2015, 09:13:51 AM
 Shoulders + arms

standing BB press
lying Incline DB raises
Face pulls

BB curls
Incline curls
concentration curls (cable)

skull crushers ez bar
incline extensions
Kickbacks (cable)
4 sets per exercise for shoulders , 3 for arms.  I worked my Biceps before shoulders.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 23, 2015, 09:51:23 AM
Its got 2 pedals and your legs are straight out in front. I'll check name brand tomorrow.
you got the name of this machine
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 23, 2015, 11:19:43 AM
I still got an old style Bullworker and chest expanders old school style wooden handles and steel springs...

The equipment I have, I've had for decades. It looks exactly like the photo I posted except the grips are red. I imagine they come with a variety of spring tensions to make the exercise progressive. I have no idea what the force of the one I have is. It does get easier over time as I reacquaint myself with the movement and develop the muscle strength required for the exercise. Like with other exercises, I go slow and deliberate. This is not something one should do distractedly.

My shoulder and arm are much, much better than yesterday. Guess I just used these muscles enough to feel a little pain but hopefully didn't pull anything.

I am off to Salem in a few minutes to pick up my sister. She is having an EEG here in Portland this afternoon. So I am spending the day on the road....two trips down and two trips back home, all in all about 250 miles. 


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 23, 2015, 11:31:17 AM
The equipment I have, I've had for decades. It looks exactly like the photo I posted except the grips are red. I imagine they come with a variety of spring tensions to make the exercise progressive. I have no idea what the force of the one I have is. It does get easier over time as I reacquaint myself with the movement and develop the muscle strength required for the exercise. Like with other exercises, I go slow and deliberate. This is not something one should do distractedly.

My shoulder and arm are much, much better than yesterday. Guess I just used these muscles enough to feel a little pain but hopefully didn't pull anything.

I am off to Salem in a few minutes to pick up my sister. She is having an EEG here in Portland this afternoon. So I am spending the day on the road....two trips down and two trips back home, all in all about 250 miles.  



[/quote I hate Driving long Distance. Take the Train(picking up your sister is different). Drove Trucks some years ago but never enjoyed it. Take care Jay..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on January 23, 2015, 11:57:08 AM
you got the name of this machine
Freemotion.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 23, 2015, 12:15:52 PM
Freemotion.
canīt find it have you a video or picture ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on January 23, 2015, 01:46:49 PM
canīt find it have you a video or picture ?

I'll try to remember today. I don't take my phone on the gym floor.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 24, 2015, 02:15:46 AM
Never seen it in the Gyms here at least where i live. Looks interesting.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 24, 2015, 05:25:12 AM
working today  'saturday' :(,,,snow 6 inches/ice dropped like nothing overnight :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 24, 2015, 05:43:41 AM
working today  'saturday' :(,,,snow 6 inches/ice dropped like nothing overnight :P
started snowing here too. not so heavy now. Hope it does not stay. was out and about on my mountain bike and was frozen. icy wind.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 25, 2015, 05:37:37 PM
legs

hack squat warmed..work sets 3/4/5 plates
leg press 5/6/7 plates
walking lunges 50lb dbells x2
extension drops 10x10 x3 205/190 killer

hams
sldl dbells 65/75/85
lying leg curls 140/150/155/160

calves seated and standing alternating sets 3 and 3 ,,reps 12 per avg..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 26, 2015, 01:57:09 AM
legs

hack squat warmed..work sets 3/4/5 plates
leg press 5/6/7 plates
walking lunges 50lb dbells x2
extension drops 10x10 x3 205/190 killer

hams
sldl dbells 65/75/85
lying leg curls 140/150/155/160

calves seated and standing alternating sets 3 and 3 ,,reps 12 per avg..
QUAD...ZILLA  ;D just like to punish yourself on a sunday donīt you?.. I went for a run yesterday in the woods. Was raining and so very muddy due to the melting snow and rain. tried to concentrate on how  i engaged the ground with my feet, normally run more on my toes and balls of my feet but i tried to land a bit more with the whole foot. it seemed to work as this morning i was fine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2015, 06:51:33 AM
QUAD...ZILLA  ;D just like to punish yourself on a sunday donīt you?.. I went for a run yesterday in the woods. Was raining and so very muddy due to the melting snow and rain. tried to concentrate on how  i engaged the ground with my feet, normally run more on my toes and balls of my feet but i tried to land a bit more with the whole foot. it seemed to work as this morning i was fine.
;D....MASSIVE SNOW STORM AND BLIZZAED WARNING IN TRISTATE AREA ,,,INSANE STARTING UP SOON FOR 2 DAYS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 26, 2015, 10:24:45 AM
;D....MASSIVE SNOW STORM AND BLIZZAED WARNING IN TRISTATE AREA ,,,INSANE STARTING UP SOON FOR 2 DAYS
Well at least you have your home kit if you canīt get to the Gym... Iīm lucky itīs just round the corner.. Going now to Blast my Manly Chest.. ;D 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 26, 2015, 02:03:04 PM
Ah the Pacific Northwest....the sun is shining and it is 54 degrees Fahrenheit out. There was a little fog early this morning, but that's gone now.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2015, 08:15:43 PM
chest 'home'snow  :Pnight

inc dumbell superset with inc flyes x4

2 sets flat dbell superset dbell pullovers

2sets chest press wide grip with pullovers

2 sets inner grip press with 2 sets decline pushups

1 set extra decline pushups

tris

pushdowns x3
overhead extensions x3
reverse grip sigle arm extension pushdowns superset close grip curl bar presses x3
kick backs x2

abs
supeset lying leg raises and crunches floor feet propped on bench 3x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 27, 2015, 07:35:37 AM
legs Today was..

Squats 4 sets
Seated leg press 4 sets
Stiff legged deads 4 sets
Leg curls(feet flexed towards shins) 4 sets
For calfes i did some stretches.

Machine crunches 3 sets, Cardio 30 mins stationary bike, 10 mins rowing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on January 27, 2015, 08:02:51 AM
Home sick due to side effects of stuff the physicians have me on.  Dammit.  I keep telling myself not to go gentle into that good night!   ;D

Be well, lads!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 27, 2015, 08:19:10 AM
Home sick due to side effects of stuff the physicians have me on.  Dammit.  I keep telling myself not to go gentle into that good night!   ;D

Be well, lads!
Thanks you too Scotty  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 27, 2015, 11:45:49 PM
I hope all of you in the midst of the storm are alive and well.

I hit the gym today. Nothing to brag about, but every day that I manage to accelerate my workout routine beyond some puny stuff I do at home is a huge bonus.

Some idiots have been posting my head on frumpy bodies in silly thongs. I am working on a surprise attack, which will blow them out of the water. Sure my ego is big, but there aren't a lot of 70+ year old men who look as fit as me. Thank you mom and dad for the good genetics. LOL!

My wife is hanging in there. We are all struggling with the possibilities. It has dawned on me that it might be a good time to connect with hospice folks. Our grandson is having a particularly hard time right now. He loves his nana as well he should. It is especially hard for young folks to understand that none of us is here forever. Heck, my wife may have the last laugh and outlive us all. One can only hope.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2015, 07:41:59 AM
Trained Back today..

Front wide grip chins 4 sets
BB pullovers 4 sets
Parallel grip pulldowns 4 sets
Machine rows 4 sets
Close grip upright rows 3 sets
DB shrugs 3 sets

Did 3 sets seated calf raises.. felt good. No cardio today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2015, 07:44:51 AM
I hope all of you in the midst of the storm are alive and well.

I hit the gym today. Nothing to brag about, but every day that I manage to accelerate my workout routine beyond some puny stuff I do at home is a huge bonus.

Some idiots have been posting my head on frumpy bodies in silly thongs. I am working on a surprise attack, which will blow them out of the water. Sure my ego is big, but there aren't a lot of 70+ year old men who look as fit as me. Thank you mom and dad for the good genetics. LOL!

My wife is hanging in there. We are all struggling with the possibilities. It has dawned on me that it might be a good time to connect with hospice folks. Our grandson is having a particularly hard time right now. He loves his nana as well he should. It is especially hard for young folks to understand that none of us is here forever. Heck, my wife may have the last laugh and outlive us all. One can only hope.
Good to train Jay.. take your mind of it all for at least an hour or so. Some time for you.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on January 28, 2015, 06:35:53 PM
Did a modified HIT today.


Back.  Slow pull ups to below neckline.  3 sets of down to 5 reps.
Machine rows.  One drop set to failure.


Chest.  One set of negatives on the machine bench press with a friend pushing onto the "bar" for added resistance.  One set of three negatives with the stack and him pushing.  I thought I could have easily done a few more negatives but felt like there was stress on my right pec so I chose to stop.

One set to failure of machine flys followed immediately of one set to failure of machine bench presses.


One set to failure of DB shrugs.  Done.

Tomorrow will be delts and arms done in the same way. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 28, 2015, 08:05:17 PM
back
chins wide x2/inner x2 sets 10 to 12
tbar row chest to pad 2 plates/2 plates 10 and 5/2 plates and 25
low cable rows 180/195/200
cable pulls lower to upper chest single arm row 'hits outer /upper back x3
hammer reverse underhand pulldowns x3 2 plates per side 10 reps

weighted hypers x3

bis
seated curls cable x3
seated curl machine x3
inc curls 30/35/35
hammer ropes x2 x12

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2015, 10:21:03 AM
shoulders tonight..

Dumbbell press 4 sets
Incline one-arm lateral raises 4 sets
standing lateral raises (cable) 4 sets
Face pulls OR rear delt machine 4 sets (might do both)

abs: Half sit ups superset with leg raises on floor mat. Cardio, crosser 30 mins
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on January 29, 2015, 08:55:01 PM
It took five sets of DB laterals to warm up my shoulders before I did the one working set to failure and followed that with a set of machine shoulder presses done drop set fashion to failure.

Next up, BB cheat curls.  Warm up with three sets of 5 to 10 reps and then I did one drop set to failure.  Alternate DB curls, two sets to failure followed by 50 reps with an empty bar.

Tricep pushdowns to warm the elbows then one set of close grip machine bench presses to failure, one set of pushdowns (drop set) to failure and finally two sets of 5 reps each slow bodyweight dips.

Done.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 30, 2015, 08:48:17 AM
delts
donny triset start
3x 20 1st set db 25'2 x2...laterals side/front raise/rear raise...burns like hell 10 reps per
upright rows premade bar 70/80/90
fr press 135/145/155/155-135 drop
cable laterals  behind back x3

shrugs
fronts on lying'hammer' chest press 'standing over bench portion..3/4/5/3 plates perside ran reps 15/15/12/25 supersetted with 45 lb plate each hand shrug /squeeze/repped 12-15

forarms
reverse cable behind back x3
weighted rope rolls x3

calves 3 sets 40 rep sets drops 200/180/160/140 these kill..

some pic update
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 30, 2015, 05:33:02 PM
Scott, I hope you get well soon. Prime, it must really be stressful for all involved with what your wife is going through.

Going to change my approach to training. I always train according to a script. Increasing weight, increasing reps or to shorten the time from the previous workout is the goal. Keeping a journal is a great way to train but now I realize for an analytically trainer like me it becomes an obsessive compulsive thing.

 Sad to say the body doesn't work according to pre-planned improvements. Maybe if you have a few years on and you're young. A better approach is to train according to how hard you can push yourself that day. If I got 8 reps last chest day in the bench I will no longer go into a funk if I got 6 reps because I am shot from a run or some other reason. I will train according to what I can do that day.

 I can't imagine using my weight lifting mythology and applying it to my running. When I run I will say today is 2 mile day or a 5 mile day say. I will run hard but there isn't a goal to beat last times run. That would be insanity.  As long a a month to month improvement is noted or maintained it's good enough.

I'm going to pick an exercise I am using. Do three sets increasing weight each set. Make sure the first set is felt but not killer.  I won't increase the reps when using a lighter weight. Bodybuilder Ed Robinson had an article on his training awhile back. If my memory serves me he said in general he did 4 sets increasing the weight each set but not decreasing the reps. He would just do the sets purer with the lighter weights. I know most would decrease the reps as they pyramid the weight up. He would do 4 sets of 8 increasing weight each set.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 30, 2015, 05:39:47 PM
Scott, I hope you get well soon. Prime, it must really be stressful for all involved with what your wife is going through.

Going to change my approach to training. I always train according to a script. Increasing weight, increasing reps or to shorten the time from the previous workout is the goal. Keeping a journal is a great way to train but now I realize for an analytically trainer like me it becomes an obsessive compulsive thing.

 Sad to say the body doesn't work according to pre-planned improvements. Maybe if you have a few years on and you're young. A better approach is to train according to how hard you can push yourself that day. If I got 8 reps last chest day in the bench I will no longer go into a funk if I got 6 reps because I am shot from a run or some other reason. I will train according to what I can do that day.

 I can't imagine using my weight lifting mythology and applying it to my running. When I run I will say today is 2 mile day or a 5 mile day say. I will run hard but there isn't a goal to beat last times run. That would be insanity.  As long a a month to month improvement is noted or maintained it's good enough.

I'm going to pick an exercise I am using. Do three sets increasing weight each set. Make sure the first set is felt but not killer.  I won't increase the reps when using a lighter weight. Bodybuilder Ed Robinson had an article on his training awhile back. If my memory serves me he said in general he did 4 sets increasing the weight each set but not decreasing the reps. He would just do the sets purer with the lighter weights. I know most would decrease the reps as they pyramid the weight up. He would do 4 sets of 8 increasing weight each set.
go by feel rich ,,i have days a push same weight but lose a rep ,,if i drop too much i do a drop set instead with it,,,i train to get better each session not bigger,,detail ,,i pay attention to overall look,i train every bodypart,inc forearms/abs/calves every week..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 31, 2015, 03:28:14 AM
go by feel rich ,,i have days a push same weight but lose a rep ,,if i drop too much i do a drop set instead with it,,,i train to get better each session not bigger,,detail ,,i pay attention to overall look,i train every bodypart,inc forearms/abs/calves every week..
i am the same and go by feel. pyramid and when i reach my target weight on that Day i stay on it even if i drop a rep or two. I never however go below 5-6 reps. Last set should be hard but not impossible and then i sometimes drop the weight and rep out not counting reps. Rich is correct when he wrote some Days you are just beat energy wise, then i drop a set or even an exercise in this way i can still get a good workout without beating my body up. Physiologically and physically better. I am at the moment a bit more rigid doing POF workouts but i never liked having a detailed training log. Last night i really felt my Biceps on the Incline curls, Reeves style with an off set grip so i pronate naturally. Looks a bit odd but works a treat.

ez bar curls(alternate between straight bar) 3 sets
incline "Reeves" curls 3 sets
Seated DB curls 3 sets

Lying DB extensions 3 sets
Incline BB extensions 3 sets
Kickbacks(cable) 3 sets

Standing calf raises 5 sets on the smith machine. no cardio but will go for a run in the woods or a cycle. snowing again :( still not as bad as i saw on TV .. the US has it bad at the moment.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 31, 2015, 06:34:45 AM
i am the same and go by feel. pyramid and when i reach my target weight on that Day i stay on it even if i drop a rep or two. I never however go below 5-6 reps. Last set should be hard but not impossible and then i sometimes drop the weight and rep out not counting reps. Rich is correct when he wrote some Days you are just beat energy wise, then i drop a set or even an exercise in this way i can still get a good workout without beating my body up. Physiologically and physically better. I am at the moment a bit more rigid doing POF workouts but i never liked having a detailed training log. Last night i really felt my Biceps on the Incline curls, Reeves style with an off set grip so i pronate naturally. Looks a bit odd but works a treat.

ez bar curls(alternate between straight bar) 3 sets
incline "Reeves" curls 3 sets
Seated DB curls 3 sets

Lying DB extensions 3 sets
Incline BB extensions 3 sets
Kickbacks(cable) 3 sets

Standing calf raises 5 sets on the smith machine. no cardio but will go for a run in the woods or a cycle. snowing again :( still not as bad as i saw on TV .. the US has it bad at the moment.
as u would say nice drills!!!! ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 31, 2015, 06:41:30 AM
as u would say nice drills!!!! ;D
yeah... Time for me to disappear for a run... Wife's back from work. Even though iīve Vacuumed the carpets she is never happy and does it again... got to be the cleanest House in the street 8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 01, 2015, 08:23:02 AM
Firstly, thank you oldtimer for the  kind remark.

Friday's routine was, well..routine.  Three sets of 10 down to 5 reps on slow pull ups followed by three sets of pull downs (wide grip) of 15 reps and then 1 drop set to failure on machine rows.

Incline Smith Bench Press.  First set was 17 reps, and the second one was for 10 reps.  Machine Bench Press for 3 negative reps (no one there to provide additional pressure on the "bar", dammit!).  This was followed by one set to failure on the Machine Flyes and then one set to failure immediately after that on the Machine Bench Press.

Three sets of DB shrugs and I was all done.  I feel pretty good today and may train later in the garage as I don't much care for sports, including football. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 01, 2015, 10:36:02 AM
leg day sat/today sun off'super bowl'

leg press 5 plates/6/7/8-back to 6 drop nice pump
hack squat 3/4/5 plates
walking lunges 80 lb bar on back
extensions 220/230/235

hams
stiff legged dbells 60/70/80/90
lying legs curls x4 140-155\

calves 6 sets seated calf raise
 very sore today ,,pants tight from full pump  8),, :o

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 01, 2015, 12:33:02 PM
leg day sat/today sun off'super bowl'

leg press 5 plates/6/7/8-back to 6 drop nice pump
hack squat 3/4/5 plates
walking lunges 80 lb bar on back
extensions 220/230/235

hams
stiff legged dbells 60/70/80/90
lying legs curls x4 140-155\

calves 6 sets seated calf raise
 very sore today ,,pants tight from full pump  8),, :o


-Pants not tight today, maybe someday.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 01, 2015, 01:08:38 PM
-Pants not tight today, maybe someday.
Hope all is well Jay.day by day.I trained alone for leg day and moved fast.1 hour for all that volume.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 01, 2015, 02:18:02 PM
Hope all is well Jay.day by day.I trained alone for leg day and moved fast.1 hour for all that volume.

All is better at the moment. On the way to breakfast today my wife passed out and neither our daughter nor I could revive her. Instead of going to breakfast, we ended up at the emergency room. We're still here, waiting for them to release her. She doesn't want to be admitted to the hospital.

Super - bowl viewing can wait.

There is no definitive diagnosis at this point. She didn't have a stroke or a heart attack. Her kidney function remains at 10%.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 01, 2015, 07:00:11 PM
All is better at the moment. On the way to breakfast today my wife passed out and neither our daughter nor I could revive her. Instead of going to breakfast, we ended up at the emergency room. We're still here, waiting for them to release her. She doesn't want to be admitted to the hospital.

Super - bowl viewing can wait.

There is no definitive diagnosis at this point. She didn't have a stroke or a heart attack. Her kidney function remains at 10%.

Though she does not yet know me, one day we will meet.  As such and if it does not offend either of you, please give her my love in Christ.  Again, the two of you will be at the center of my prayers tonight. 

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 01, 2015, 07:06:30 PM
Though she does not yet know me, one day we will meet.  As such and if it does not offend either of you, please give her my love in Christ.  Again, the two of you will be at the center of my prayers tonight.  


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Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on February 01, 2015, 07:51:51 PM
All is better at the moment. On the way to breakfast today my wife passed out and neither our daughter nor I could revive her. Instead of going to breakfast, we ended up at the emergency room. We're still here, waiting for them to release her. She doesn't want to be admitted to the hospital.

Super - bowl viewing can wait.

There is no definitive diagnosis at this point. She didn't have a stroke or a heart attack. Her kidney function remains at 10%.
Cherish every minute and keep your chin up, you old poofster!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 01, 2015, 07:57:03 PM
Cherish every minute and keep your chin up, you old poofster!
🍻💜
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2015, 02:44:01 AM
Though she does not yet know me, one day we will meet.  As such and if it does not offend either of you, please give her my love in Christ.  Again, the two of you will be at the center of my prayers tonight.  


[/quote
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Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 02, 2015, 11:35:46 AM
Cherish every minute and keep your chin up, you old poofster!

All our chins are up today. My wife is doing okay. We still don't know what happened yesterday and maybe we never will.

It is very fortunate that my wife and I have our family so close. She needs someone with her or at least within earshot at all times now should she have another seizure. It would be truly overwhelming for one person to try and do this alone.

I appreciate all the support I get from you all on Getbig. I really need this distraction right now. It may not help me stay physically fit, like hitting the gym does, but it does keep me mentally fit.

I'll get a little break tomorrow since I have a speech to give in Eugene, OR which is about two hours drive south from where I live. I'll be having lunch with this group of university retirees as I always do when they invite me down to give a talk. This is one of those things I wouldn't be able to do if our daughter, son-in-law and grandson did not live with us. Life has it's blessings. Sometimes it is just hard to see them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 02, 2015, 08:10:18 PM
Yesterday I ran 3 slow miles on the treadmill. Then ate about 7000 calories between beer, ribs and other football food watching the game.

Trained delt and arms today. I generally went up in weight each set but the reps stayed the same. Found this was a great way to warm up and get in the groove. I got both a pump and a strength set.

Press behind neck 4 x 6
dumbbell laterals 4 x 10
rear dumbbell laterals 4 x 10
barbell shrugs 4 x 10

barbell curls 4 x 10
alternate dumbbell curl 4 x 8
D handle one arm curl 4 x 12

forearm wrist curl 4 x 20 (forearms were burning)
wrist extensions 4 x15
Ivanko gripper 2 x 20 (really weak from wrist curls)

First time doing volume in awhile. Tried to stay away from failure but came close. Going up in weight for each set but keeping the same reps is really a great way to train. I learned this from an article on Ed Robinson in a Weider magazine. Most go from high reps to low reps when pyramiding the weight up. I think I'm going to keep this method for awhile. I know the concept sounds odd and maybe I will write why I think it's a great way to train in another post.


Donny I got this thing for stretching the calf, Achilles tendon, foot arch and soleus muscle. I didn't realize how tight I had every thing and I think that contributed to the plantar fasciitis. I'm improving every day. I got a cortisone shot too. I know many say it weakens tendons and ligaments but a one time shot can work wonders in getting rid of swelling and making the tissue pliable again. I also took anti inflammatory drugs. I stretched using that device and I slept with a boot contraption to keep my foot from going forward so my arch wouldn't get tight at night. I also taped up my arch. This keep it from getting little tears. You can find taping videos on youtube. I went from pain for months to actually almost being 85%.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2015, 01:56:59 AM
Yesterday I ran 3 slow miles on the treadmill. Then ate about 7000 calories between beer, ribs and other football food watching the game.

Trained delt and arms today. I generally went up in weight each set but the reps stayed the same. Found this was a great way to warm up and get in the groove. I got both a pump and a strength set.

Press behind neck 4 x 6
dumbbell laterals 4 x 10
rear dumbbell laterals 4 x 10
barbell shrugs 4 x 10

barbell curls 4 x 10
alternate dumbbell curl 4 x 8
D handle one arm curl 4 x 12

forearm wrist curl 4 x 20 (forearms were burning)
wrist extensions 4 x15
Ivanko gripper 2 x 20 (really weak from wrist curls)

First time doing volume in awhile. Tried to stay away from failure but came close. Going up in weight for each set but keeping the same reps is really a great way to train. I learned this from an article on Ed Robinson in a Weider magazine. Most go from high reps to low reps when pyramiding the weight up. I think I'm going to keep this method for awhile. I know the concept sounds odd and maybe I will write why I think it's a great way to train in another post.


Donny I got this thing for stretching the calf, Achilles tendon, foot arch and soleus muscle. I didn't realize how tight I had every thing and I think that contributed to the plantar fasciitis. I'm improving every day. I got a cortisone shot too. I know many say it weakens tendons and ligaments but a one time shot can work wonders in getting rid of swelling and making the tissue pliable again. I also took anti inflammatory drugs. I stretched using that device and I slept with a boot contraption to keep my foot from going forward so my arch wouldn't get tight at night. I also taped up my arch. This keep it from getting little tears. You can find taping videos on youtube. I went from pain for months to actually almost being 85%.  
Good to hear it helped. i might look into it but at the moment i feel better. i really have felt an improvement  because of concentrating more on how i land on my feet when running. sounds funny but i feel itīs important because of the weight distribution.

chest last night..
Incline BB press 4 sets
Incline cable flys 4 sets (Squeeze at top)
Incline DB flys(doing lower portion of the Fly)4 sets
Decline BB press 4 sets

cardio crosser 30 mins hard Interval programme.

Opinions on this video below... i think this Guy has the right idea about always searching to improve exercises and i like his videos. Just maybe over complicating things at times but for people with bad shoulders who canīt do incline press or incline flys..etc.. maybe a good alternative.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 03, 2015, 06:22:12 AM
I just wonder about his conclusions. If you do a military press your chest will contract isometrically as a stabilizer and isotonic during some of the movement. All of which proves nothing concerning is it getting the top section of your chest. His pec isometrically stabilizing during his one arm shrug and bringing the arm across is proof of an upper pec builder? 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2015, 06:33:25 AM
I just wonder about his conclusions. If you do a military press your chest will contract isometrically as a stabilizer and isotonic during some of the movement. All of which proves nothing concerning is it getting the top section of your chest. His pec isometrically stabilizing during his one arm shrug and bringing the arm across is proof of an upper pec builder? 
He talks of Contraction. He has the right idea about bringing his arm across(no surprise), I feel my chest when i do this even with a small movement. He has i believe a physio Background and looks into other possibilities. Of course the "mind muscle connection" has to be good on this ;D "Isotonic" is a word i have not heard in a while Rich, reminds me of my old Bullworker.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2015, 07:14:02 AM
Rear Delt exercise on the Floor is intresting.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 03, 2015, 08:52:50 AM
He talks of Contraction. He has the right idea about bringing his arm across(no surprise), I feel my chest when i do this even with a small movement. He has i believe a physio Background and looks into other possibilities. Of course the "mind muscle connection" has to be good on this ;D "Isotonic" is a word i have not heard in a while Rich, reminds me of my old Bullworker.

Old school terms. I'm sure they have updated with more fancy technical sounding buzz words. Isometric a muscle contracting without movement and isotonic a muscle contracting with movement and the length of a muscle changing whether eccentrically or concentrically. I'm sure the new buzz words has these old school terms out the window. I was talking to a medical doctor about the "insertion" of a muscle and he said that's the old school term that's rarely used now but that's what he learned in medical school and he likes it; origin and insertion. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2015, 09:05:32 AM
Old school terms. I'm sure they have updated with more fancy technical sounding buzz words. Isometric a muscle contracting without movement and isotonic a muscle contracting with movement and the length of a muscle changing whether eccentrically or concentrically. I'm sure the new buzz words has these old school terms out the window. I was talking to a medical doctor about the "insertion" of a muscle and he said that's the old school term that's rarely used now but that's what he learned in medical school and he likes it; origin and insertion.  
Yes i know what you are saying. They do not realize posing is a watered down version of isometrics. i remember as a kid pushing against a wall or curling holding a towel slowing the movement with my other arm. Forgotten things. Good times Rich.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 03, 2015, 12:38:21 PM
Today was a day off from training. I ran 3 miles on the treadmill. Too much ice on the road for an old guy to slip and fall.  ;D Ran slow at a 9:30 per mile pace. I think off the top of my head that's about 6.2 MPH.

I then hit the heavy bag for two three minute rounds. I would have done more but I snapped a bolt holding it up. Followed up with two sets of push up and pull ups. Didn't realize how much the run and hitting the bag took it out of me concerning push ups and chins.

Lastly I did one circuit of abs.
1. Incline sit ups ( I got away from these and I'm sorry I ever left them.)
2. crunches
3. bicycle
4. hanging leg raises
5. machine pulley crunches

These days off of working out is going to kill me. I also have to start drinking less beer. You can out work a poor diet but you can't out work an horrific one.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 03, 2015, 06:38:37 PM
Trying hard to intensify my training.  Today was back, chest and abs.

Three sets of 10 down to 4 reps on slow pull palms facing inward pull ups.
One set of Smith Machine bent over rows to failure.

Two supersets of machine flys and machine bench press both to failure.

Two sets (one warm up) of machine sit ups.  Done. 

I have no one to train with and so it is difficult to really push myself but I will continue to try.  I also have to realize that if I get hurt it is over for a while and so I think I will alternate  between HIT and volume depending upon how I feel in the physical and mental sense of the word.

Intensity for immensity?  Let's hope so!  Train hard, lads!   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 03, 2015, 07:36:26 PM
I trained my patience today. 5 hours of highway driving on an Interstate Hwy can really do this for a person. The good news is I made the round trip with no mishaps and extensive use of cruise control. After today, if I ever loss the use of my legs, I am convinced I could get around using the hand controls on the steering wheel.

My wife saw her primary care physician today. No one is sure what happened last Sunday when she lost consciousness for about 20 minutes, but it seems very possible it is related to a lack of oxygen. Her lungs are full of fluid which her body is retaining because her kidneys aren't working. Interestingly, unlike in the past, her legs are not retaining that much fluid.

The doctor is going to set us up with hospice. There was mention of a hospital bed which we both feel we need to think about. The advantage is her being able to elevate while sleeping. The disadvantage is that hospital beds aren't comfortable and also where to put it. If we set it up in the guest room, it is a slightly longer walk to the toilet than the master bedroom which has an en-suite.

I hope to make it to the gym tomorrow. Hopefully there will be no unexpected events to keep me from going. I really need to unwind and to work my deltoids.
 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 04, 2015, 05:31:36 AM
CHEST @HOME

SEATED CHEST PRESS X4
INC DB 60LBER X3 ..
INC FLYES X3 'DID THESE DIFFERENT INSTEAD KNUCKLES FACING AT END HAD HANDS FACING LIKE A PRESS SO DBBELL TOPS TOUCH.\
SUPERSET FLATE FLYES 45'S WITH BAR PULLOVERS X3
PUSHUPS X2 X20 FINISH

TRIS
FRONT PUSHDOWNS X4
CLOSE GRIP DUMBELL PRESS X3
DB LYING TRICEP 'HAMMER EXTENSIONS X3
DBELL BEHIND HEAD EXTENSIONS X2

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2015, 06:20:59 AM
Legs yesterday was..

One legged squats holding Dumbbell 3 sets per leg
leg curls feet flexed towards shins 3 sets
Seated leg press 3 sets
Stiff legged Deadlifts 3 sets
Power leg extensions Gironda style 3 sets

Decided to do some one legged squats standing on the platform behind the incline bench holding on with one hand on a Barbell. Wish we had a Hammer unilateral leg press. I liked that machine. Nice burn from these and i did 15 reps each set. 3 sets was enough. no cardio my legs were fried. Never worked calfs i had no time. I have experimented with toes pointed on the leg curl as it is alleged it hits the gastrocnemius. Hope i spelt that correct 8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 04, 2015, 06:23:36 AM
I trained my patience today. 5 hours of highway driving on an Interstate Hwy can really do this for a person. The good news is I made the round trip with no mishaps and extensive use of cruise control. After today, if I ever loss the use of my legs, I am convinced I could get around using the hand controls on the steering wheel.

My wife saw her primary care physician today. No one is sure what happened last Sunday when she lost consciousness for about 20 minutes, but it seems very possible it is related to a lack of oxygen. Her lungs are full of fluid which her body is retaining because her kidneys aren't working. Interestingly, unlike in the past, her legs are not retaining that much fluid.

The doctor is going to set us up with hospice. There was mention of a hospital bed which we both feel we need to think about. The advantage is her being able to elevate while sleeping. The disadvantage is that hospital beds aren't comfortable and also where to put it. If we set it up in the guest room, it is a slightly longer walk to the toilet than the master bedroom which has an en-suite.

I hope to make it to the gym tomorrow. Hopefully there will be no unexpected events to keep me from going. I really need to unwind and to work my deltoids.
 

Isn't fluid in the lungs a sign of congestive heart failure too?  Is she on dialysis? Maybe her depression will lift if they gets the toxins out of her blood with dialysis.  Choosing death by refusing dialysis may be her choice but is it with a clear head or is it clouded from sickness that not going through dialysis is causing? Sorry for voicing opinions where I should just be giving comfort. Of course I don't know what she is going through. Prayers for you, your family and your wife.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 04, 2015, 01:23:03 PM
Isn't fluid in the lungs a sign of congestive heart failure too?  Is she on dialysis? Maybe her depression will lift if they gets the toxins out of her blood with dialysis.  Choosing death by refusing dialysis may be her choice but is it with a clear head or is it clouded from sickness that not going through dialysis is causing? Sorry for voicing opinions where I should just be giving comfort. Of course I don't know what she is going through. Prayers for you, your family and your wife.

Your questions are valid. She agreed to have a shunt installed in her arm for dialysis. This was done about 6 months ago. When she agreed to this, she made it absolutely clear that she was only doing this to appease our daughter and me. Since that time she's repeatedly stated that she does not want to be on permanent dialysis. Most of the time, she's very clear headed. She is also very strong willed and stubborn.

She has congestive heart failure. Yes, this is partly why she's retaining water. She is also retaining water because her kidney function is a 10% or less. She also has type II diabetes, a non functioning thyroid, severe arthritis, which results in he being in constant pain. She is extremely anemic. She has to have infusions every two weeks to help make red blood cells.

The list is long and she's been quite ill for at least the last 10 years. She's just sick of being sick. I don't believe she wants to die, she just doesn't want to live if living means living in misery and pain. She's worn out emotionally and physically. My wife is 72 years old. She's lived a good life all-in-all.
 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 04, 2015, 01:31:30 PM
Your questions are valid. She agreed to have a shunt installed in her arm for dialysis. This was done about 6 months ago. When she agreed to this, she made it absolutely clear that she was only doing this to appease our daughter and me. Since that time she's repeatedly stated that she does not want to be on permanent dialysis. Most of the time, she's very clear headed. She is also very strong willed and stubborn.

She has congestive heart failure. Yes, this is partly why she's retaining water. She is also retaining water because her kidney function is a 10% or less. She also has type II diabetes, a non functioning thyroid, severe arthritis, which results in he being in constant pain. She is extremely anemic. She has to have infusions every two weeks to help make red blood cells.

The list is long and she's been quite ill for at least the last 10 years. She's just sick of being sick. I don't believe she wants to die, she just doesn't want to live if living means living in misery and pain. She's worn out emotionally and physically. My wife is 72 years old. She's lived a good life all-in-all.
 
I KNOW LIFE IS TRICKY,,AND GOOD HEALTH CAN CHANGE IN A WHIM,,I STILL HATE HEARING THINGS LIKE THIS JAY,,,SAD TO BE BROKEN PHYSICALLY AND OR MENTALLY.I GET UPSET IF I CAN'T REP A WEIGHT WK TO WK ,I CAN ONLY IMAGINE YOUR PAIN..YOUR UPBEAT AND REALLY CARING 'GOOD FAMILY MAN'OVERALL..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 04, 2015, 01:53:30 PM
I KNOW LIFE IS TRICKY,,AND GOOD HEALTH CAN CHANGE IN A WHIM,,I STILL HATE HEARING THINGS LIKE THIS JAY,,,SAD TO BE BROKEN PHYSICALLY AND OR MENTALLY.I GET UPSET IF I CAN'T REP A WEIGHT WK TO WK ,I CAN ONLY IMAGINE YOUR PAIN..YOUR UPBEAT AND REALLY CARING 'GOOD FAMILY MAN'OVERALL..

Her health issues are partly due to poor genetics, some bad luck and also a result of her having not done the very thing many others do to stay healthy, such as watch our diets and exercise regularly....in other words, look after herself. To my wife's credit, she's never been a drinker and she quit smoking when she was in her late 40's. She's led a clean and wholesome life.

Steve, keep exercising and doing whatever it takes to be as fit and healthy as possible. There may be no guarantees in life, but taking a positive approach to managing one's health is very productive and the process is gratifying because the rewards are obvious. Not only do folks who exercise, eat reasonably clean and lead good lives look better, they feel better too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 04, 2015, 02:03:43 PM
Prime, Your emotional pain must be through the roof. I feel bad for the major health issues your wife is going through.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 04, 2015, 02:09:27 PM
Prime, Your emotional pain must be through the roof. I feel bad for the major health issues your wife is going through.

We have a wonderful family and great friends who are our support team. It really helps that my wife and I aren't weathering this storm alone.

When my wife was having a seizure in the car on the way to breakfast last Sunday, it was surreal. After my daughter jumped in the car to help, I snapped to and drove safely and quickly to the emergency room. There wasn't much room for emotions. Sometimes we just go into "auto pilot" mode.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 04, 2015, 07:54:38 PM
back
chins wide x2 x12 inner grip x2 x10
tbar row 2 plates and 25/3/3 plates and 25 ..10/10/10
cable low row 180/180/180 was pumped and pretty tought o increase poundage
pulldown close grip reverse x3
rope pulls to waist standing x3

weighted hypers x3

bis
culrs premade bar 70/80/80 higher reps 12 per set
hammer curls arm crossing across body 'angle'40/45/45 dbell
seated curl machine x3
rope curls bottom portion to below mid point x3 'lower bicep/top forman pump

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 05, 2015, 07:59:54 PM
delts

front press 135-165,,4 sets total

trisets 'blast'25 lb db side/fr/rear raisesx3

cable upright x3

cable raise hands in rear x3

shrugs x3 225-295
rear shrugs x3 using chest machine 3 plates/4/5

calves drops 4 sets per standing calf raise x3

forarms rope rolls x3
reverse wrist cable curl x4

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 05, 2015, 08:04:58 PM
It took five sets of progressively "heavier" weight for me to get to my one working set on DB laterals for my shoulders.  From there I tried out the Smith Machine for shoulder presses, following the same pattern but for two warm ups and one working set.

Next, three  sets of twenty reps for curls done in a non-stop fashion followed by one working set of alternate DB curls.

On to triceps and three progressively heavier sets of close grip machine bench presses followed by one working set and then one set of bodyweight dips. 

One warm up  and one working set of machine sit ups.   Finished.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 05, 2015, 08:14:33 PM
It took five sets of progressively "heavier" weight for me to get to my one working set on DB laterals for my shoulders.  From there I tried out the Smith Machine for shoulder presses, following the same pattern but for two warm ups and one working set.

Next, three  sets of twenty reps for curls done in a non-stop fashion followed by one working set of alternate DB curls.

On to triceps and three progressively heavier sets of close grip machine bench presses followed by one working set and then one set of bodyweight dips. 

One warm up  and one working set of machine sit ups.   Finished.

I generally go heavier on shoulder presses regardless of the equipment used and I do them at the onset of my shoulder routine. I've found for me doing side laterals with really lite resistance and a very controlled movement actually produces more pump then doing them with heavier weights. Of course we all respond differently to exercise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 05, 2015, 08:26:07 PM
I had the second of two day long meetings this week that I could not get out of. I've cancelled a third out of town meeting coming up this Saturday because I don't think I should be gone three days this week leaving my daughter and her husband to assume responsibility for my wife's care.

My wife did okay today. According to our daughter, she forgot where I was several times and asked for me. It's disconcerting that she's losing touch a little. It is part of renal failure though. When the toxins build up in one's system, it can cause confusion.

We're watching television tonight (as usual). She seems fairly copacetic right now. I've talked with her about the possibility of her allowing dialysis. She's not making a commitment. Hospice is going to contact me tomorrow regarding hospice care.

I apologize for hijacking this thread with these personal posts. I really need to off-load my feelings and experiences right now and you all have been so supportive of our situation. I really appreciate it. If it is becoming a problem, please let me know.

All you all are the bomb!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2015, 01:15:12 AM
I had the second of two day long meetings this week that I could not get out of. I've cancelled a third out of town meeting coming up this Saturday because I don't think I should be gone three days this week leaving my daughter and her husband to assume responsibility for my wife's care.

My wife did okay today. According to our daughter, she forgot where I was several times and asked for me. It's disconcerting that she's losing touch a little. It is part of renal failure though. When the toxins build up in one's system, it can cause confusion.

We're watching television tonight (as usual). She seems fairly copacetic right now. I've talked with her about the possibility of her allowing dialysis. She's not making a commitment. Hospice is going to contact me tomorrow regarding hospice care.

I apologize for hijacking this thread with these personal posts. I really need to off-load my feelings and experiences right now and you all have been so supportive of our situation. I really appreciate it. If it is becoming a problem, please let me know.

All you all are the bomb!
Jay the Boys on here are thinking about you and your wife. I am sure Karen too, she has a good Heart too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2015, 01:24:23 AM
Did an Early morning workout and cardio today. Working a bit later on today. prefer training later on in the Day but just the way it goes.

Arms...
BB curls 3 sets
incline curls 3 sets
one arm DB spider curls 3 sets

lying DB extensions 3 sets
incline ez bar extensions 3 sets
one arm cable kickbacks 3 sets
Standing calf raises on the smith machine 5 sets

Doing the spider curls i got some funny looks. a lot of young guys donīt know what they are. probably thought i did not know how to use a preacher bench... ;D
Cardio was mixed, 15 mins crosser,15 mins bike,10 mins rowing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 06, 2015, 05:39:59 PM

...I apologize for hijacking this thread with these personal posts. I really need to off-load my feelings and experiences right now and you all have been so supportive of our situation. I really appreciate it. If it is becoming a problem, please let me know.

All you all are the bomb!

You cannot hijack that which is given freely.  Love, friendship, training and more.  This is a thread amongst friends and it is about life.  You and your wife are a part of our lives.   We can only watch from a distance but that does not mean we do not hold you both close in our hearts.

Make no mistake, I am no "man of God".  There are none to be found.  But...We are all His children.  Some more prodigal than others.  If we but ask from within, at that moment we shall know His love and the peace of the promise.

The Lord make His face to shine upon you and your wife. 



Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 06, 2015, 11:05:44 PM
You cannot hijack that which is given freely.  Love, friendship, training and more.  This is a thread amongst friends and it is about life.  You and your wife are a part of our lives.   We can only watch from a distance but that does not mean we do not hold you both close in our hearts.

Make no mistake, I am no "man of God".  There are none to be found.  But...We are all His children.  Some more prodigal than others.  If we but ask from within, at that moment we shall know His love and the peace of the promise.

The Lord make His face to shine upon you and your wife. 



I am please to report that after interviewing hospice this afternoon, my wife has decided to keep up the fight for awhile longer. She has agreed to at least give dialysis a try if that is in order.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 07, 2015, 06:11:41 AM
That is great news. Maybe after a couple of weeks of blood cleaning she will start to feel better and her her health will improve. Is a kidney transplant in the future an option?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 07, 2015, 07:36:23 AM
Great News Jay... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 07, 2015, 11:11:30 AM
I am please to report that after interviewing hospice this afternoon, my wife has decided to keep up the fight for awhile longer. She has agreed to at least give dialysis a try if that is in order.

Good news and I wish the both of you all the best!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2015, 12:41:14 PM
That is great news. Maybe after a couple of weeks of blood cleaning she will start to feel better and her her health will improve. Is a kidney transplant in the future an option?

A kidney transplant is not likely. My wife isn't healthy enough to survive that or any other major surgery at this point. Dialysis won't change this. Dialysis will hopefully improve her quality of life by making her feel better. If she doesn't pass from kidney failure, she will likely die of congestive heart failure. At this point she is retaining water, mainly in her lungs which affects her oxygen saturation levels. To help counter this, she uses oxygen 24/7 with a pretty high flow rate of 4.

Before she begins dialysis, her nephrologists will assess whether it is time to do this. Although her kidney function is at 10% she is still making urine. The doctor mentioned she has one patient who has been at 7% function for over a year and has not begun dialysis. Every case or person is different.

She seems to be in pretty good spirits today. We got up early (for us) at 10:00 a.m. I fixed oatmeal at her request. She ate a decent sized amount. So he appetite is good at the moment. She also ate a pretty good dinner last night. Again I fixed lamb per her request. I baked one potato of which she ate 1/4 with me eating the rest. Along with this we had salad with a lot of raw vegetables in it.

We are both taking things a day at a time. That's pretty much all we can do.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 07, 2015, 01:33:28 PM
Prime, I hope things improve.


Today I trained delts and triceps. I have a lot of problems with my shoulder and doing rotator cuff exercises helps. What I found really helped was old fashion stretching. I do 4 stretches for my shoulders and they have really responded. I thought rotator cuff exercises would be what saved my shoulders and it turned out stretching did more for the pain I was feeling. Go figure.

I rested about a hour and went to the park for a run. It's one mile around the park on an asphalt  path. The weather has been brutal here in NJ but today it was about 43F and sunny. Ran for 3 miles and started to really feel it on the last half mile. Drove home from the run blasting a Tom Jones CD on my sound system with the windows down. Don't judge me.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 07, 2015, 02:21:35 PM
rich ...Tom jones was a real ladies man in his prime  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on February 07, 2015, 11:08:50 PM
escaping from "european-winter" for some weeks.....training now in Thailand (holidays....32 Degree, mostly sunny....)

2 days ago i trained back

12 minutes cardio.....

1. warm-up with 2 lighter sets of lat pulldown for 4 sets of chinups...just with Bodyweight (251 lbs. 2 days ago, 6 "2", 51 1/2 yrs old),
2 Bent-over rows, 4 sets
3. superset pullover followed by Hammer-Strength Dorian Yates lat pulldown, 4 supersets
4. seated rows, 2 high-rep sets
5. 2 sets of stiff legged deadlift

yesterday i only did cardio + 10 Supersets of Dumbell curls + Triceps extensions....The first 3-4 sets where warm-up sets....clip 5 minutes after training
  https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=895283527190808&set=vb.100001275061104&type=3&theater
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 08, 2015, 06:13:56 AM
escaping from "european-winter" for some weeks.....training now in Thailand (holidays....32 Degree, mostly sunny....)

2 days ago i trained back

12 minutes cardio.....

1. warm-up with 2 lighter sets of lat pulldown for 4 sets of chinups...just with Bodyweight (251 lbs. 2 days ago, 6 "2", 51 1/2 yrs old),
2 Bent-over rows, 4 sets
3. superset pullover followed by Hammer-Strength Dorian Yates lat pulldown, 4 supersets
4. seated rows, 2 high-rep sets
5. 2 sets of stiff legged deadlift

yesterday i only did cardio + 10 Supersets of Dumbell curls + Triceps extensions....The first 3-4 sets where warm-up sets....clip 5 minutes after training
  https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=895283527190808&set=vb.100001275061104&type=3&theater
never been to Thailand... nice Back workout :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 08, 2015, 09:01:54 AM
Does socializing get in the way of your workouts? My wife and I have never been a let's socialize with other couples type of people. She goes out with her girlfriends on occasion and the same as I do with the guys. We mainly go to restaurants and do things together. Last night we met two other couples for drinks. Round after round went down. You would think I would have more discipline being involved in bodybuilding.  

One guy's wife was an attractive curvy blond that I thought was flirting with me. Just wonder if she caught me checking her out and she liked it? Maybe it's just her nature to be flirty. At the end of the night she hugs me and kisses me on the cheek really enthusiastically and with all the good bye talk between everyone she comes back and hugs me again with another kiss.

What's the point of all this?  I'm hung over and tired. Here is back day. Trying to get up the will to put on my workout clothes and start my power cleans. What I really want to do is to take a nap.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 09, 2015, 04:37:07 AM
Does socializing get in the way of your workouts? My wife and I have never been a let's socialize with other couples type of people. She goes out with her girlfriends on occasion and the same as I do with the guys. We mainly go to restaurants and do things together. Last night we met two other couples for drinks. Round after round went down. You would think I would have more discipline being involved in bodybuilding.  

One guy's wife was an attractive curvy blond that I thought was flirting with me. Just wonder if she caught me checking her out and she liked it? Maybe it's just her nature to be flirty. At the end of the night she hugs me and kisses me on the cheek really enthusiastically and with all the good bye talk between everyone she comes back and hugs me again with another kiss.

What's the point of all this?  I'm hung over and tired. Here is back day. Trying to get up the will to put on my workout clothes and start my power cleans. What I really want to do is to take a nap.
i would be careful. Does she flirt with other guys? I had a similar thing which happend to me. A couple who we knew. She knew my wife well and remember one time at home she just walked in the Bathroom when i was in the Bath. She asked my wife where is Donny, oh heīs in the Bath and she came in.  She phoned one time and asked if i was at home alone.. which i was...and she appeared at my Door. I let her in had a coffee and she tried to kiss me. I just did not want the trouble. Good looking woman but i know she flirted with other guys. Would have caused trouble i think. Just be careful Rich...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 09, 2015, 04:47:00 AM
... the same woman who flirted with me  was with her husband at a Barbecue which we had. Now invited was another woman who hated her. This shows how Bitchy women are... she started talking about this flirty woman in front of everyone saying i heard you fucked a friend of mine and went into details. Everyone just looked at the flirty woman's poor Husband who stood up and said, i think we need to talk and they both disappeared quick. i said to the woman who said all this, WTF was that? She said well she suspected her Husband had fucked her... so revenge was truly sweet. That's why i would watch out bro... ;) Women you can never trust.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 09, 2015, 05:53:55 AM
I got that back workout in. Everything went well except for one exercise. For some reason my pull ups were really weak. Going to throw some in every time I am at the gym even if it's not a back day. What do you guys think about that? I just read about that in a Men's Health magazine. Some guy wrote if you're weak at pull ups do some every workout day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 09, 2015, 06:03:10 AM
I got that back workout in. Everything went well except for one exercise. For some reason my pull ups were really weak. Going to throw some in every time I am at the gym even if it's not a back day. What do you guys think about that? I just read about that in a Men's Health magazine. Some guy wrote if you're weak at pull ups do some every workout day.
seen these programmes before. If you are only concentrating on chins itīs ok but with other muscle groups in a normal split i doubt it will last long. try every second Day. i knew a guy who said every time he went in his bedroom he did chins on a doorway chin bar. Even he as a strong guy never lasted long.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 09, 2015, 06:40:18 AM
I got that back workout in. Everything went well except for one exercise. For some reason my pull ups were really weak. Going to throw some in every time I am at the gym even if it's not a back day. What do you guys think about that? I just read about that in a Men's Health magazine. Some guy wrote if you're weak at pull ups do some every workout day.
whats weak?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 09, 2015, 09:07:59 AM
whats weak?

Just couldn't get my usual reps in doing pull ups. I was down 2 reps. Maybe my lats and shoulder region are weakened from all the stretches I have been doing for my shoulders.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 09, 2015, 09:20:14 AM
Just couldn't get my usual reps in doing pull ups. I was down 2 reps. Maybe my lats and shoulder region are weakened from all the stretches I have been doing for my shoulders.

OH ..WHAT DO YOU DO 3 SETS SAY FOR 10/15 REPS??WEIGHTED OR BWEIGHT..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 09, 2015, 09:45:46 AM

OH ..WHAT DO YOU DO 3 SETS SAY FOR 10/15 REPS??WEIGHTED OR BWEIGHT..

Did one set after power cleans and deadlifts so I was weakened. I did one set of dead hang and medium slow pulling the bar to my upper chest region, not up to my chin where my elbows are all the way down against my rib cage. I usually get 10 of them and I got 8 with body weight. On a good day I can slop out 17 or more jerking swinging pull ups if I don't go all the way down and barely pass my out stretched chin like most guys do them.

Going down 20% is just a big downfall for me. Maybe it's just an anomaly.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 09, 2015, 09:48:56 AM
Did one set after power cleans and deadlifts so I was weakened. I did one set of dead hang and medium slow pulling the bar to my upper chest region, not up to my chin where my elbows are all the way down against my rib cage. I usually get 10 of them and I got 8 with body weight. On a good day I can slop out 17 or more jerking swinging pull ups if I don't go all the way down and barely pass my out stretched chin like most guys do them.

Going down 20% is just a big downfall for me. Maybe it's just an anomaly.
good explanation,,,don't beat yourself up ,,sounds like as Donny would say'good drills'lats/back get plenty stimulation on what u described,,not unlike a fully drugged jacked pro who could move a 2inch rom and still get big back...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 09, 2015, 06:40:10 PM
Flex can attest to how cold it is in NJ today. It was only 30 degrees but the wind was whipping. I ran today dressed like a mummy. Only runner on the trail today. Only got two miles in. The wind, being dressed like a mummy and exhaustion kept my time down.

Tomorrow is legs. No cardio except for maybe a walk. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 09, 2015, 06:57:00 PM
Did one set after power cleans and deadlifts so I was weakened. I did one set of dead hang and medium slow pulling the bar to my upper chest region, not up to my chin where my elbows are all the way down against my rib cage. I usually get 10 of them and I got 8 with body weight. On a good day I can slop out 17 or more jerking swinging pull ups if I don't go all the way down and barely pass my out stretched chin like most guys do them.

Going down 20% is just a big downfall for me. Maybe it's just an anomaly.

I understand the chin biz, believe me my friend!  Its frustrating.  I cannot do power anything, let alone power cleans, LOL!  Good work!

Today I began to try upping intensity so I warmed up with palms facing inward chins pulling to my neck on three sets of 11 to 5.  Next up one set to failure on wide grip pulldowns followed by one set to failure on machine medium grip rows.

Smith Machine incline bench press.  First set was 11 reps.  Second set was my working set to failure and I only got five before I felt that was it!

Pec Dec laterals to failure followed by machine bench press to failure. 

One warm up set of machine sit ups and then one working set with weight.  I forgot to do shrugs so I will include them tomorrow at the end of my shoulder routine just before arms.

One of the medications they have me on gives me severe cramping which makes training HARD ridiculously hard.  I am going to speak with them about this stuff on Thursday.  It is killing me.  I was watching a film the other day and my sartorius muscle cramped up and sent me rolling on the floor in agony like man possessed by a retarded demon.  ;D

I hate it when I look like a retarded demon. 

Keep up the good work, lads!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 09, 2015, 09:37:20 PM
Flex can attest to how cold it is in NJ today. It was only 30 degrees but the wind was whipping. I ran today dressed like a mummy. Only runner on the trail today. Only got two miles in. The wind, being dressed like a mummy and exhaustion kept my time down.

Tomorrow is legs. No cardio except for maybe a walk. 

Has anyone ever suggested to you that you are one crazy dude. Really running dressed as a mummy? Thank goodness you didn't freeze your lungs. Well at least no one will ever accuse you of being a pussy. I'm impressed.

Does it count that we had high winds and driving rain here today and I braved putting the dogs in the car an running a couple of errands? Guess not, since I was safely ensconced inside the car. The dogs did fog up the windows. Does this earn me a couple of macho points? It is hard driving around with fogged up windows. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 09, 2015, 09:48:58 PM
After a shower at 10:00 a.m. my wife has mostly slept all day long. Before anyone reads anything kinky into this, nothing exhausting happened in the shower this morning....I wish! Anyway, as soon as The Bachelor came on, she was suddenly alert. Should I be jealous of this farmer?

The tension is huge in our house lately. As a result of an unfortunately misunderstanding last Saturday night, I told my son-in-law and daughter to get out of our house. It's a long story which I won't go into here. I am not going to back down for a couple of reasons, mainly though because I think it is what they need to do for their well being. In the midst of the turmoil, I had an aha moment which clarified that my son-in-law needs to be master of his own house and not mine. It is a hard time but at the end of the day, I think we will all be happier living apart.

My son-in-law said some very hurtful things to me. I reacted to them. It was ugly. I am not speaking to him right now for fear that I will ignite more strife. This is no way for any of us to live.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 10, 2015, 02:47:25 AM
Chest workout was... a Home workout.

parallel bar dips 4 x max
incline flys superset with Incline Barbell press 4 sets

Hanging knee raises 3 x max. will go later on for a run in the woods.
Seated Barbell calf raises 5 sets.
Short and straight to the point.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 10, 2015, 05:35:38 AM
After a shower at 10:00 a.m. my wife has mostly slept all day long. Before anyone reads anything kinky into this, nothing exhausting happened in the shower this morning....I wish! Anyway, as soon as The Bachelor came on, she was suddenly alert. Should I be jealous of this farmer?

The tension is huge in our house lately. As a result of an unfortunately misunderstanding last Saturday night, I told my son-in-law and daughter to get out of our house. It's a long story which I won't go into here. I am not going to back down for a couple of reasons, mainly though because I think it is what they need to do for their well being. In the midst of the turmoil, I had an aha moment which clarified that my son-in-law needs to be master of his own house and not mine. It is a hard time but at the end of the day, I think we will all be happier living apart.

My son-in-law said some very hurtful things to me. I reacted to them. It was ugly. I am not speaking to him right now for fear that I will ignite more strife. This is no way for any of us to live.
in the end we need to be our own people,for you and your wife its your lives to live and son in law/daughter theres...very tough situation jay...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 10, 2015, 04:50:12 PM
in the end we need to be our own people,for you and your wife its your lives to live and son in law/daughter theres...very tough situation jay...

I took a little excursion to a neighboring suburb to look at some houses for sale. This area originated as a retirement community with most of the homes surrounding a golf course. Since the homes were built to accommodate retired folks, most of them have only two bedrooms. The attraction for me is that we'd be in a place where there is no room at the inn should family want to move in with us. Also most of the houses are townhouse style with enclosed courtyards on one side and views of the golf course on the other side. This would really cut down on yard maintenance for me. Should a time come that I am free to travel, I would be able to leave for months at a time and not have to worry about anything.

The downside of this community is that the homes are relatively expensive. Additionally, there are monthly maintenance fees which vary depending on location. We'd be downsizing our lot and house size, but not so much our expenses. Another downside is that Charbonneau was developed in the 70's and 80's so a lot of the properties need updating.

One place I looked at today has a lot of features I like. It has a large courtyard which is great for the dogs and it has expansive views from the house and patios over the golf course on two other sides. It is nicely sized at just over 2,100 sq. ft. with two bedrooms and two baths so the room sizes are generous. The décor is definitely stuck in the 70's. There is dark wood trim all over the place and carpet galore, even in the bathrooms. The interior would be a total gut and redo. Actually so would the court yard since most of the shrubs are seriously overgrown. The deck off the kitchen needs to be replaced and there are a couple of trees which were cut down leaving ugly stumps in their place.

Another place I saw is more move-in ready. It has great light with generous windows on the south and west sides. It is somewhat newer having been built in the late 80's. The backyard needs a fence as it backs up to a common area which includes the community pool and our two dogs would go nuts running free and barking at the swimmers. Some of the details in the home would need to be updated. The biggest drawback is that the second bedroom and office area are upstairs. I guess we could live with this because the master bedroom is on the main floor. A bonus I like is that there are two fireplaces. The current décor is a little Las Vegas or Arizona looking for me. I'd rip out the sea of white carpet and install hardwood floors. The banister on the staircase is kind of cheesy too, so it has to go.

I still have not had a conversation with my daughter or son-in-law. They've packed up some of their kitchen stuff, I've noticed. I have no idea when they plan on moving out but I hope it is soon. Ironically, the cabinet maker emailed me that he would like to install the linen cabinet on the 20th. This will pretty much conclude the upstairs bathroom remodel which I paid for and my daughter and husband designed. After they move out, it will largely go unused. And no, I am not going to rent that space out. From here on out, it is just going to be my wife and me living in our home. We are so done with taking in strays. First up, we will blare the TV if we choose. LOL.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 10, 2015, 05:45:03 PM
Prime, it's really heart breaking when there is division in a family. My wife's family is all divided up with different alliances. My wife who has done nothing and is really easy to get along with. Some of her family won't even talk to her. I just don't understand it. On my side of the family everyone is kind and tries to get along. I had my side of the family over for a Christmas party and it was so much fun with zero hostility. If it was my wife's family they would call to see who is showing up prior to committing to come over the house. Of course everything isn't gummy bears and Weider super 101 protein powder on my side but we get along without malice.

Today I trained legs. I thought about workouts past from 10 years ago and even 30 plus years ago. I can't do what I used to and I have to accept that. I have to be the best at my age and not compare myself to a 23 year old version of myself. I think most guys that lift weights and do cardio over 55 years old can vouch that they look no where remotely like their counter parts that exercised for the last time 25 years ago. Many of these young guys have no clue what it takes to be in really good shape as you approach 60 years of age. They juice in their 20's and into their 30's. Eventually because of health, finances, or even arrest they will have to go off the juice. When they hit 50 they will be a mess but in their mind they think they will be ripped and buff. The are not even ripped and buff without the syringe in their youth so I don't get their expectation of being in shape as they get older.   

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 10, 2015, 06:54:35 PM
It's said that we only get one or two really good friends in this life and that is if we are fortunate.  But relatives?  Sometimes it feels like they showed up (uninvited!) for dinner and decided to stay for life.

Prime, worry not about the kids because the truth of the matter is that they're adults.  Forgiveness may well be divine but you are only human.  Forgive that which you can but be certain to remember it all. 

I am rambling, aren't I?

Dammit.   ;D


Today was shoulders, arms and waist.

Five warm up sets of DB laterals followed by two (!) working sets with as heavy a weight as I could manage for 6 reps.

Next up was one warm up set of Smith Machine shoulder presses and then one working set for 5 reps at which I considered that to be my failure point on that movement.

Barbell cheat curls.  One warm up set and then one drop set to failure. 
Alternate DB curls. Again, one warm up set and then a drop set to failure.

Triceps were up next.  Pressdowns for a set of 30 and then a drop set to failure.
Close grip Machine Bench Presses  done in negative fashion for five reps total.
Bodyweight dips for 10 reps (failure point).

Two sets of machine sit ups with the second being the working set.

Done.


In closing I am happy for you and your wife.  You have spent a lifetime together but never has togetherness been more needed than now.    Be well, my young friend.  The both of you.

Train hard, lads!   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 10, 2015, 07:46:04 PM
last 3 posts here are reason i come to this thread other than to post workouts and such....you guys are solid men...


catching up workout wise posting

mon chest/tri/abs

fdb press 60/70/80/85/85-65 drop...12/10/10/8/5-8
decline press x3
inc dbells..60/60/60 10/8/8
pec deck x3 15/15/12
dips x2 20/15

tris
pushdowns 120/130/140/150
overhead rope extensions x3
reverse single handle pushdowns x3
close grip x2

abs

tues through in a leg day at home,,,trisets/reps

triset
extensions x15
db squat x12
lunges db legs back instead step foward
did 4 sets around

hams
single leg stading leg curl x4 superset stiff legged dbells 12  and 12 per set
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 10, 2015, 08:52:55 PM
last 3 posts here are reason i come to this thread other than to post workouts and such....you guys are solid men...


catching up workout wise posting

mon chest/tri/abs

fdb press 60/70/80/85/85-65 drop...12/10/10/8/5-8
decline press x3
inc dbells..60/60/60 10/8/8
pec deck x3 15/15/12
dips x2 20/15

tris
pushdowns 120/130/140/150
overhead rope extensions x3
reverse single handle pushdowns x3
close grip x2

abs

tues through in a leg day at home,,,trisets/reps

triset
extensions x15
db squat x12
lunges db legs back instead step foward
did 4 sets around

hams
single leg stading leg curl x4 superset stiff legged dbells 12  and 12 per set

Superb!  I wish I could handle half the weight you do, sir!

Tomorrow is back and  chest again and I must try and up the intensity once more.  It is difficult when alone but to be honest I've trained alone now (with rare exceptions when my son would join me) for 27 or so years.  Most of it at home in the garage.

I don't know if my leg can take it but I will try a set of stiff leg deadlifts tomorrow with just the oly bar to warm up and then maybe a pair of 45s for a total of 135.  I have no idea what the weight on a Smith Machine really is but I can tell you this, it ain't what it reads to be.  Much, much lighter than what adds up.  Wimpy time for me. 

Alive and lifting, so I've got that to be grateful for.  Along with so much more.

Prime, my youthful cohort.  Never forget that when the plagues of the world were set loose from Pandora's Box and all seemed lost to mankind that inside was Hope.  The Box I speak of now is your heart.  Hope is within my friend.  Open your heart and set Hope free.  Give her Hope for now and for eternity yet to come.

Your wife loves you. 

G'night gentlemen!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 10, 2015, 10:33:20 PM
Thanks all for giving me a place to vent.

I am pleased to read about each of your workouts. Hopefully, I will get back into the swing of working out soon. Right now, there is just too much going on at home for me to slot the time necessary to hit the gym. Hopefully, my 70 year old tits don't start sagging like Bruce Jenner's do since I have no desire to look like a woman. LOL!

Today was a pretty good day with my wife. She was awake and alert most of the day. She went to be at about 8:00 p.m. tonight because she wasn't feeling too well.

As for my daughter and son-in-law, nothing has changed. I hope they will be able to find somewhere to move pretty soon so this tension that them being here is causing is done with. I would offer to front them some move money if I didn't think it would cause another drama. That their income is as mine is, should put them in a pretty good position financially. Unfortunately, they spend a lot more of their income then I do mine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 11, 2015, 05:32:32 AM
Back today...

Wide grip front chins 4 sets
BB pullovers 4 sets
close grip pulldowns 4 sets
one arm DB rows 4 sets

close grip upright rows(cable) 3 sets
Db shrugs 3 sets
Cardio crosser 30 mins, 10 mins rowing. abs: machine crunches 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 11, 2015, 12:16:42 PM
Did a quick chest and bicep workout today. Used one set to failure to be done with it. It's really draining to do one work set until you're blue in the face trying to get the reps to failure. I was so exhausted I canned my planned run. Pissed off about it but tomorrow will just be cardio.

dumbbell flat bench 1 x 9 (used as full a range of motion that I could. All the way down)
Incline barbell bench 1 x 10
flat flies 1 x 14
push ups 2 x 22-14 (push ups are perfect way to end pecs. They are shot so a low number of perfect push ups pumps them up)

barbell curl 1 x 14
alternate dumbbell curls 1 x 20 (ten each arm)
single arm pulley curl 1 x 15
concentration curl 1 x 15 (when I could only get half reps I used the other arm to complete the curl and rode the negative down)

forearm wrist curls 1 x 26
reverse wrist extensions 1 x 18

Incline sit ups 1 x 25
Hanging straight leg raise 1 x 20
pulley crunches 1 x 25

Ivanko gripper 2 x 20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 11, 2015, 07:29:10 PM
I am trying to up the weight/reps/intensity with every session but realistically know this is not always possible and I don't want to train every 7 to 10 days as Mentzer advocated toward the end of his days.  It hurts too much to train that freaking hard, especially my joints.  I have to find a happy medium and that is what I am trying for lately.

One set of palms in pull ups to failure.

One set of BB rows to failure.

One set of palms in lat pulldowns to failure.

Two supersets of machine flyes/machine bench presses both to failure.

Two sets of machine sit ups.

Done.

And well done oldtimer and Donny! 

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 11, 2015, 08:49:04 PM
I am trying to up the weight/reps/intensity with every session but realistically know this is not always possible and I don't want to train every 7 to 10 days as Mentzer advocated toward the end of his days.  It hurts too much to train that freaking hard, especially my joints.  I have to find a happy medium and that is what I am trying for lately.

One set of palms in pull ups to failure.

One set of BB rows to failure.

One set of palms in lat pulldowns to failure.

Two supersets of machine flyes/machine bench presses both to failure.

Two sets of machine sit ups.

Done.

And well done oldtimer and Donny! 



I don't know how old your are but you have to be protective of your joints. Heavy weights can be really grinding to them. Some say light weights and high reps but that can be just as bad for joints. I think Bill Pearls method of high volume and low reps might be the method to preserve joints. 5 sets of 6  to 8 reps might be the a great method for us as we age. 5 sets means the weight has to be moderate. The low reps meant a limited amount of use of the joint. All of this is of course is speculation.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2015, 04:47:44 AM
I am trying to up the weight/reps/intensity with every session but realistically know this is not always possible and I don't want to train every 7 to 10 days as Mentzer advocated toward the end of his days.  It hurts too much to train that freaking hard, especially my joints.  I have to find a happy medium and that is what I am trying for lately.

One set of palms in pull ups to failure.

One set of BB rows to failure.

One set of palms in lat pulldowns to failure.

Two supersets of machine flyes/machine bench presses both to failure.

Two sets of machine sit ups.

Done.

And well done oldtimer and Donny! 


Thanks Scotty.. I agree with Ritch. more sets and more reps. Leave the heavy ego lifts for the young Bucks.. ;D donīt have to train with the volume of Mr Pearl but the Heavy duty style training  i would leave out regardless of what so called experts say about never truly reaching your potential .. ::) Just my 2 cents as you boys say.. Bill Pearl still lifts and was a very strong guy in his prime.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 12, 2015, 06:13:59 AM
back
chins wide x2 and inner grip x2,,reps12/12 inner 10/10 there tougher some reason..
tbar front loaded version 2 plates &25,/3/3 plates &25..10/10/10
front pulldown small bar 'bar used for low cable row type..x3 165/180/180 10/10/10
chest to pad mid row machine 'stack version'used x3
rope standing pulldowns to waist x3

weighted hypers x3 45 lb plate 12 reps

bi's
CURLS big bar...85/95/105/75..10/10/10/20  :P
inc db curls..30/35/35
seated curl maching 'scott curl'x4

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2015, 06:47:14 AM
back
chins wide x2 and inner grip x2,,reps12/12 inner 10/10 there tougher some reason..
tbar front loaded version 2 plates &25,/3/3 plates &25..10/10/10
front pulldown small bar 'bar used for low cable row type..x3 165/180/180 10/10/10
chest to pad mid row machine 'stack version'used x3
rope standing pulldowns to waist x3

weighted hypers x3 45 lb plate 12 reps

bi's
CURLS big bar...85/95/105/75..10/10/10/20  :P
inc db curls..30/35/35
seated curl maching 'scott curl'x4

abs
Nice to see the incline curls in there. love the stretch and strict form.

Shoulders last Night. Lagging behind on my work outs here just been very busy. I look in Daily but since Christmas a lot of work on.

seated machine press(yes i used a machine) 5 sets
one arm incline lateral raise 4 sets
Face pulls 4 sets
Standing Calf raises 5 sets, Hanging knee raises 3 max sets
Cardio: run on the streets about 50 mins.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 12, 2015, 06:59:19 AM
Nice to see the incline curls in there. love the stretch and strict form.

Shoulders last Night. Lagging behind on my work outs here just been very busy. I look in Daily but since Christmas a lot of work on.

seated machine press(yes i used a machine) 5 sets
one arm incline lateral raise 4 sets
Face pulls 4 sets
Standing Calf raises 5 sets, Hanging knee raises 3 max sets
Cardio: run on the streets about 50 mins.
BEEN DOING THEM STEADY IN CURLS..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2015, 07:05:20 AM
BEEN DOING THEM STEADY IN CURLS..
Great exercise. I will be doing them later. The off set Grip is a bit awkward at first but when you get used to it it works.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2015, 07:38:16 AM
Donīt know if this really is Reeves voice but he did bring to my attention the value of an off set grip on incline curls.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 12, 2015, 02:10:23 PM
Great footage on Reeves. Obviously not his voice. He doesn't appear in top shape but he still looks amazing.

Just a cardio day today. Ran 3.1 miles in the abandoned railroad trail by my house. I use a GPS garmin watch. The thing has some gremlins in it. I don't know if I got a bad one or the technology isn't fully there. When it works it gives me the time, distance, miles per minutes. When it acts up I hit the stop button it will stop then turn itself back on as I'm doing my walking cool down so I don't know exactly what I did.  

Wife wants to see that 50 Shades of Grey movie tomorrow. Last time she took me to a woman's movie it was that Magic Mike. In a packed movie house I was the only guy in the place. I sunk low in my seat as the movie played and I was hoping no one would recognize me as I walked out. Now history repeats itself.  ;D

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 12, 2015, 06:12:17 PM
Great footage on Reeves. Obviously not his voice. He doesn't appear in top shape but he still looks amazing.

Just a cardio day today. Ran 3.1 miles in the abandoned railroad trail by my house. I use a GPS garmin watch. The thing has some gremlins in it. I don't know if I got a bad one or the technology isn't fully there. When it works it gives me the time, distance, miles per minutes. When it acts up I hit the stop button it will stop then turn itself back on as I'm doing my walking cool down so I don't know exactly what I did.  

Wife wants to see that 50 Shades of Grey movie tomorrow. Last time she took me to a woman's movie it was that Magic Mike. In a packed movie house I was the only guy in the place. I sunk low in my seat as the movie played and I was hoping no one would recognize me as I walked out. Now history repeats itself.  ;D



At least you won't have to read the book if you don't want to. http://www.doctoroz.com/blog/paul-hokemeyer-phd-jd/why-men-should-read-50-shades-grey
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 12, 2015, 06:16:02 PM
-Wife's in the hospital again. I took her to the hospital yesterday and she was admitted. She has diverticulitis and has lost enough blood that they've given her two transfusions. She won't be released until they are sure the bleeding has ceased. Naturally she is very upset because this is just another thing to have wrong with her health as if she didn't have enough going on already.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 12, 2015, 06:35:19 PM
Great footage on Reeves. Obviously not his voice. He doesn't appear in top shape but he still looks amazing.

Actually that is Reeves own voice.  I have his first feature length film, Ed Wood's "Jail Bait" which was followed by the musical "Athena" and in both of those the studio used Reeves real voice.  Additionally I've heard him speak on TV back in the 70s on afternoon talks shows like Mike Douglas' show and the voice here is the same as it was on TV, i.e., deep and masculine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 12, 2015, 06:41:52 PM
At least you won't have to read the book if you don't want to. http://www.doctoroz.com/blog/paul-hokemeyer-phd-jd/why-men-should-read-50-shades-grey

I am something of a prude, so I will happily pass!   ;D


You and your wife shall again be in my prayers this night.

Be well.


As for training I did okay today.  Six warm ups on DB laterals followed by one working set.
Next one warm up machine shoulder press followed by one drop set to failure.

Cheat BB curls.  After one warm up I did a drop set to failure followed by alternating DB curls to failure.
Warmed up with tricep push downs  and then close grip machine presses to failure followed by a drop set of tricep push downs to failure.

Two sets of machine sit ups.  I will now rest for at least two days. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 12, 2015, 06:52:58 PM
Actually that is Reeves own voice.  I have his first feature length film, Ed Wood's "Jail Bait" which was followed by the musical "Athena" and in both of those the studio used Reeves real voice.  Additionally I've heard him speak on TV back in the 70s on afternoon talks shows like Mike Douglas' show and the voice here is the same as it was on TV, i.e., deep and masculine.

The voice is not in sync with his mouth while hers appears to be. That's why I said that. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 12, 2015, 06:58:33 PM
The voice is not in sync with his mouth while hers appears to be. That's why I said that. 

Hmmm...it was on my laptop but that could just be due to me being out of sync!   ;D ;D

But it does sound just like Reeves in the movies I spoke of as well as a couple of interviews.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 12, 2015, 07:02:51 PM
-Wife's in the hospital again. I took her to the hospital yesterday and she was admitted. She has diverticulitis and has lost enough blood that they've given her two transfusions. She won't be released until they are sure the bleeding has ceased. Naturally she is very upset because this is just another thing to have wrong with her health as if she didn't have enough going on already.

She is really having a horrific combinations of problems. Prayers. Make sure to take care of yourself through all this stress.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 12, 2015, 08:42:17 PM
delts
dumbell press,,50/55/60/60..10/10/10/last set did 3 reps neg slow down had training partner push em up
cable side laterals x3
superset fr raise and rear raise seated x3 x10 reps per
upright rows premade bar 70/90

traps shrugs x5 135x20,225x15,275x12.315x12.315x12

forarms cable reverse curl bar behind back x4
wrist curl wrist on knee cable x3

calves
3 sets 10 rep drop standing calf raises 200-140 brytal
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 13, 2015, 07:03:17 AM
Guy just reversed into the side of my car...waiting for the cops to come. i was not Driving but my wife she just phoned lucky no one was hurt. Not had much luck with my car. Never mind  ::)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 13, 2015, 07:47:25 AM
Guy just reversed into

the side of my car...waiting for the cops to come. i was not Driving but my wife she just phoned lucky no one was hurt. Not had much luck with my car. Never mind  ::)

Hope all turns out well, brother!    Saw a small fender bender yesterday right in front of me.  They both pulled over right away.   Just got home from work and now have the day off.  No lifting today as I need the rest.  Going to eat something at a small Mom & Pop restaurant in  a bit. 

I am kinda hungry.

Please keep us posted on how your wife and car are doing. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 13, 2015, 07:55:36 AM
Hope all turns out well, brother!    Saw a small fender bender yesterday right in front of me.  They both pulled over right away.   Just got home from work and now have the day off.  No lifting today as I need the rest.  Going to eat something at a small Mom & Pop restaurant in  a bit. 

I am kinda hungry.

Please keep us posted on how your wife and car are doing. 
Thanks Scotty. Wife is back home. The Guy who did it admitted to the cops he caused the accident so car will get sorted from his Insurance. Wife was not in the car at the time she was in a shop(store) came out and saw it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 13, 2015, 08:07:02 AM
so after all this i have to go now and pump my Guns...a Man gotta do what a man Gotta do....  8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 13, 2015, 08:21:51 AM
so after all this i have to go now and pump my Guns...a Man gotta do what a man Gotta do....  8)

In the words of the immortal (immoral? LOL!)  Issac Hayes when he sang the Theme from Shaft...

"Damn Right!"

Off to breakfast now.  Fooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooood!    ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 13, 2015, 11:20:15 AM
Guy just reversed into the side of my car...waiting for the cops to come. i was not Driving but my wife she just phoned lucky no one was hurt. Not had much luck with my car. Never mind  ::)

This is a bummer.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 13, 2015, 04:55:11 PM
Guy just reversed into the side of my car...waiting for the cops to come. i was not Driving but my wife she just phoned lucky no one was hurt. Not had much luck with my car. Never mind  ::)

That stinks. Years ago a truck backed into my brand new car. Realize I only owned 4 brand new cars in my entire life. Not a good feeling. Insurance and a collision shop should put the car back together.

Today was cardio day. I got dressed and then said fuck it. Took the wife to the movies to see the movie the Kingsmen.  Not Shakespeare but I thought it was fun entertainment. I liked it from the beginning to the end but the wife hated it. It's  a cross between super hero movies like Spiderman and James Bond. A lot of fun if you let your inner teenager be free.  Then went to a Chinese buffet and ate till I thought my stomach would explode. We then hit an Irish bar and had several pints of Guinness. Met a Troop I use to work with.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 14, 2015, 06:40:12 AM
That stinks. Years ago a truck backed into my brand new car. Realize I only owned 4 brand new cars in my entire life. Not a good feeling. Insurance and a collision shop should put the car back together.

Today was cardio day. I got dressed and then said fuck it. Took the wife to the movies to see the movie the Kingsmen.  Not Shakespeare but I thought it was fun entertainment. I liked it from the beginning to the end but the wife hated it. It's  a cross between super hero movies like Spiderman and James Bond. A lot of fun if you let your inner teenager be free.  Then went to a Chinese buffet and ate till I thought my stomach would explode. We then hit an Irish bar and had several pints of Guinness. Met a Troop I use to work with.
yeah shit happens. never mind took my aggression out on my arm workout... ;D

BB curls 3 sets
Incline curls 3 sets
dB concentration curls 3 sets

Incline ez bar extensions 3 sets
Lying dB exttension 3 sets
Cable kickbacks 3 sets

Abs: machine crunches 3 sets Calfes: standing smith machine 5 sets. Cardio Crosser 30 mins Interval programme.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 14, 2015, 07:53:28 AM
Just finished a quick session in the garage.

Two sets each of 30 down to 10 reps of the following.

DB laterals.

Palms in semi-wide grip lat pulldowns.

Machine bench press.

BB curls with a 2 inch bar with an embarrassingly light weight.

Close grip machine bench press.

Bodyweight dips on which I only got 11 reps before my elbows started hurting.

Done.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 14, 2015, 08:02:38 AM
Just finished a quick session in the garage.

Two sets each of 30 down to 10 reps of the following.

DB laterals.

Palms in semi-wide grip lat pulldowns.

Machine bench press.

BB curls with a 2 inch bar with an embarrassingly light weight.

Close grip machine bench press.

Bodyweight dips on which I only got 11 reps before my elbows started hurting.

Done.

Good work Scotty  :) iīm having a quite Day today..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 15, 2015, 10:51:30 AM
me and the misses celebrated 10 yr wedding anniversary 13'th feb and valentines day had a nite away at an inn with terrific resteraunt connected and nice bottle wine...food was great !!!appetizer to dessert,,,

did legs before leaving early sat lol...

leg press 5/6/7/8 plates
hack squat press 3/4/5 plates sets 10
lunges up stairs
extensions 205/250 sets 12

hams
seated curls machine 165/210
sldl 135-185-225-225

calves seated calf raises 5 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 15, 2015, 01:13:33 PM
me and the misses celebrated 10 yr wedding anniversary 13'th feb and valentines day had a nite away at an inn with terrific resteraunt connected and nice bottle wine...food was great !!!appetizer to dessert,,,
 ;D
did legs before leaving early sat lol...

leg press 5/6/7/8 plates
hack squat press 3/4/5 plates sets 10
lunges up stairs
extensions 205/250 sets 12 ;D

hams
seated curls machine 165/210
sldl 135-185-225-225

calves seated calf raises 5 sets
congratulations steve ...ha..like how you got the legs in there...good drills ! -))
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 16, 2015, 11:35:49 AM
congratulations steve ...ha..like how you got the legs in there...good drills ! -))
THANKS FOR ADDING THE SMILEY'S..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 16, 2015, 07:54:26 PM
chest

fdb 60/70/80/85
dec press x3
inc dbell 60/60/65..10/10/10
pullover db on slight incline 65/70/80
pec deck x3
dec pushups x2 x20

tris
triset pump tricep dip machine/extension seated machine /rope pushdowns x3 x10 reps per movement
finished 2 sets cable kick backs

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 16, 2015, 11:49:45 PM
Brought my wife home from the hospital today. She was so excite to be coming home after being in the hospital for the better part of a week. I was able to enjoy the unseasonably warm and dry weather working in the yard this afternoon. No gym time because it is necessary for me or someone to be around all the time in case she needs something. Hopefully, I got a good workout working out in the yard today.

Life is good when you take it one day at a time. Tomorrow I am going to fix chicken and dumplings which is something all of us enjoy eating and it is pretty healthy too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 17, 2015, 03:04:47 AM
Chest yesterday...

Incline Barbell press
incline Flys
Incline Cable flyes
Decline Dumbbell press

4 sets per exercise. Abs: Incline sit ups 3x20-30, Hanging leg raises 3x20-30
Cardio Running in the woods about 50 mins.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 17, 2015, 03:06:30 AM
THANKS FOR ADDING THE SMILEY'S..
yeah .. was using my phone.. donīt know how i did that  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 17, 2015, 05:11:46 AM
Chest yesterday...

Incline Barbell press
incline Flys
Incline Cable flyes
Decline Dumbbell press

4 sets per exercise. Abs: Incline sit ups 3x20-30, Hanging leg raises 3x20-30
Cardio Running in the woods about 50 mins.

8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 17, 2015, 06:47:49 PM
Upped the intensity today and tried something slightly different although still a variation on the theme of HIT.

Shoulders, chest and triceps.

Warmed up with 6 sets of DB laterals with from 40 down to 5 reps and then finally my one working set which was a drop set until I achieved 5 reps with the weight.

Next up, Smith Machine shoulder presses. One warm up and then one to failure.


Incline Smith Machine Bench Press.  One warm up and then a super set of Pec Dec followed by the inclines on the Smith Machine both to failure.

Next up 1 set of Pec Dec to failure followed by Machine Bench presses to failure.

Dips.  One set to failure which was 13 reps at bodyweight.
Tricep push downs.  One Drop Set to failure at 5 reps.
Close grip machine bench press.  One set to failure which came at 11 reps.

Two sets (1 warm up ) of machine sit ups. 

Done.  It would be nice to have a training partner when doing HIT but as I am alone I just substitute drop sets for forced reps.

Tomorrow back, biceps and stomach.  I think I prefer back cand chest together and then shoulders and arms the next day but thought it would be good to give this a go.  Yes, the weights are puny but then so am I now.

Train hard gentlemen and if you please, keep Prime and his wife in your thoughts and prayers.  Donny?  How is your wife feeling?  Is the car not too bad off?

Be well, lads!   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 18, 2015, 02:47:45 AM
Upped the intensity today and tried something slightly different although still a variation on the theme of HIT.

Shoulders, chest and triceps.

Warmed up with 6 sets of DB laterals with from 40 down to 5 reps and then finally my one working set which was a drop set until I achieved 5 reps with the weight.

Next up, Smith Machine shoulder presses. One warm up and then one to failure.


Incline Smith Machine Bench Press.  One warm up and then a super set of Pec Dec followed by the inclines on the Smith Machine both to failure.

Next up 1 set of Pec Dec to failure followed by Machine Bench presses to failure.

Dips.  One set to failure which was 13 reps at bodyweight.
Tricep push downs.  One Drop Set to failure at 5 reps.
Close grip machine bench press.  One set to failure which came at 11 reps.

Two sets (1 warm up ) of machine sit ups. 

Done.  It would be nice to have a training partner when doing HIT but as I am alone I just substitute drop sets for forced reps.

Tomorrow back, biceps and stomach.  I think I prefer back cand chest together and then shoulders and arms the next day but thought it would be good to give this a go.  Yes, the weights are puny but then so am I now.

Train hard gentlemen and if you please, keep Prime and his wife in your thoughts and prayers.  Donny?  How is your wife feeling?  Is the car not too bad off?

Be well, lads!   ;D
everyone is OK scotty. was at a Garage yesterday and they will replace 2 Doors. Cost about 1,800 - 2,000 Euros they quoted. Well his Insurance will pay so new Doors.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 18, 2015, 03:01:00 AM
Did a diffrent leg workout yesterday..

BB squats 3 sets
Leg extensions Superset with DB step ups 3 sets per ex
Seated leg curls Superset with Stiff legged Deadlifts 3 Sets per ex

Standing one legged DB calf raises Superset with Toes Pointed Leg Curls 3 Sets per ex.

Was planning to do standing smith machine calf raises but was just not practical in the Gym. Too busy. Still.. standing 1 legged DB calf raises next to the leg curl machine worked too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 18, 2015, 06:12:38 AM
Did a diffrent leg workout yesterday..

BB squats 3 sets
Leg extensions Superset with DB step ups 3 sets per ex
Seated leg curls Superset with Stiff legged Deadlifts 3 Sets per ex

Standing one legged DB calf raises Superset with Toes Pointed Leg Curls 3 Sets per ex.

Was planning to do standing smith machine calf raises but was just not practical in the Gym. Too busy. Still.. standing 1 legged DB calf raises next to the leg curl machine worked too.
solid  8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 18, 2015, 06:16:20 AM
solid  8)
thank you Steve bro... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 19, 2015, 04:06:20 AM
 Back Last Night..

Wide grip chins 4x max
Close grip pulldowns 4 sets
Medium Grip Barbell rows 4 sets Superset with
Barbell Pullovers 4 sets

Machine crunches and Reverse crunches 3 sets per exercise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 19, 2015, 10:59:07 AM
BACK DAY

REVERSE GRIP HAMMER PULLDOWN MACHINE X3
1 ARM DB ROWS 80/90/100'S..SETS 10
LOW PULLEY ROWS X3 160/180/180
UNDERHANDED INNER GRIP PULLUPS X3 SET 10-12
WIDE BAR STANDING PULLS /STRETCH TO WAIST X3

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3 X12-15

BI'S
SEATED DB CURLS 30/35/40
BARBELL CURL BAR PREMADE BAR 70/80/90
SEATED CURL MACHINE X3'GO DOWN REP ONE HANDED THEN BOTTOM UP PORTION BOTH HANDS 'SWITCHING HANDS DOWN EACH REP DOWN'TOUGH'
CABLE LOWER ROPE CURLS MID POINT..X2

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 19, 2015, 11:07:48 AM
BACK DAY

REVERSE GRIP HAMMER PULLDOWN MACHINE X3
1 ARM DB ROWS 80/90/100'S..SETS 10
LOW PULLEY ROWS X3 160/180/180
UNDERHANDED INNER GRIP PULLUPS X3 SET 10-12
WIDE BAR STANDING PULLS /STRETCH TO WAIST X3

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3 X12-15

BI'S
SEATED DB CURLS 30/35/40
BARBELL CURL BAR PREMADE BAR 70/80/90
SEATED CURL MACHINE X3'GO DOWN REP ONE HANDED THEN BOTTOM UP PORTION BOTH HANDS 'SWITCHING HANDS DOWN EACH REP DOWN'TOUGH'
CABLE LOWER ROPE CURLS MID POINT..X2

ABS
nice steve
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 19, 2015, 06:30:51 PM
Shoulders/Arms -

Warm up with 5 progressively heavier sets of DB laterals and then 1 working set to failure which came at 9 reps.

Immediately go to Smith Machine shoulder press for failure at 15 reps.  Rest for about 30 secs and follow with one non-pre exhaust set of presses with more weight to failure at 5 reps.

Warm  up with empty bar for  BB curls then jump to working set to failure at 8 reps - no cheating. Followed immediately with alternate DB curls to failure at 20 reps.

Tricep push downs warm up set followed by working set to failure at 11 reps.  Followed immediately with bodyweight dips to failure at 15 reps followed immediately with close grip machine bench press negative for 4 reps. 

One set to failure of DB wrist curls and then two sets of machine sit ups the second one being to failure.

That's it.  I am trying to cut the rest times and increase the reps before increasing the weight. Some days I will train this way and others with drop sets to failure.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 19, 2015, 06:32:57 PM
Shoulders/Arms -

Warm up with 5 progressively heavier sets of DB laterals and then 1 working set to failure which came at 9 reps.

Immediately go to Smith Machine shoulder press for failure at 15 reps.  Rest for about 30 secs and follow with one non-pre exhaust set of presses with more weight to failure at 5 reps.

Warm  up with empty bar for  BB curls then jump to working set to failure at 8 reps - no cheating. Followed immediately with alternate DB curls to failure at 20 reps.

Tricep push downs warm up set followed by working set to failure at 11 reps.  Followed immediately with bodyweight dips to failure at 15 reps followed immediately with close grip machine bench press negative for 4 reps. 

One set to failure of DB wrist curls and then two sets of machine sit ups the second one being to failure.

That's it.  I am trying to cut the rest times and increase the reps before increasing the weight. Some days I will train this way and others with drop sets to failure.
keep it going man,,,, 8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 19, 2015, 08:36:49 PM
I am home bound for the most part right now. I worked legs by doing deep squats, three sets of 25 reps last night. This followed a day of pulling weeds, trimming overgrown grass and cleaning leaves out of garden beds bending at the waist which really stretched out my hams. It is amazing what one can do for exercise in the absence of exercise equipment.

My honey actually cooked dinner last night and tonight. I am so proud of her. It is a lot of work for her to do this, but it is also what she loves. Both dinners were delicious. Next Monday, she has agreed to start dialysis to see if this will help her restore some of her lost energy, make her more alert and in general help her to feel better. The dialysis will be done at the hospital for the first three days with her staying overnight the two nights between in case anything should go wrong. If all goes well, she will be able to go to the dialysis clinic about a half mile from here for further treatments.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 19, 2015, 09:11:11 PM
keep it going man,,,, 8)

Thanks, brother!   You too!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 19, 2015, 09:12:50 PM
I am home bound for the most part right now. I worked legs by doing deep squats, three sets of 25 reps last night. This followed a day of pulling weeds, trimming overgrown grass and cleaning leaves out of garden beds bending at the waist which really stretched out my hams. It is amazing what one can do for exercise in the absence of exercise equipment.

My honey actually cooked dinner last night and tonight. I am so proud of her. It is a lot of work for her to do this, but it is also what she loves. Both dinners were delicious. Next Monday, she has agreed to start dialysis to see if this will help her restore some of her lost energy, make her more alert and in general help her to feel better. The dialysis will be done at the hospital for the first three days with her staying overnight the two nights between in case anything should go wrong. If all goes well, she will be able to go to the dialysis clinic about a half mile from here for further treatments.



Then Hope has once again been freed from Pandora's Box.  I am glad to hear this and want the best for the both of you.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 20, 2015, 06:55:03 PM

Delts
Front press x3.145_155-165.10/10/10
Side/front/rear delt trisets x3..20/25 dB..10 reps per
Cable upright with single handles x3
DBm press  x2 55's

Shrug s machine 3/4/4.5/5 plates 20/15/15/15

Calves x3 ..drops 4 per 200_140 10 reps drop

Forearms
Reverse curls behind back x4
Rope rolls x3

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 21, 2015, 07:51:04 AM
Arms...

close grip chins 3Max
incline curls 3 sets
preacher curls 3 sets

incline BB extensions 3 sets
Triceps machine 3 sets
cable kickbacks 3 sets

cardio running on the streets. When i got back 3x max leg raises of my Bench at home. actually like training abs straight after a run i feel them fatiguing quicker.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 22, 2015, 01:20:17 PM
I am home bound for the most part right now. I worked legs by doing deep squats, three sets of 25 reps last night. This followed a day of pulling weeds, trimming overgrown grass and cleaning leaves out of garden beds bending at the waist which really stretched out my hams. It is amazing what one can do for exercise in the absence of exercise equipment.

My honey actually cooked dinner last night and tonight. I am so proud of her. It is a lot of work for her to do this, but it is also what she loves. Both dinners were delicious. Next Monday, she has agreed to start dialysis to see if this will help her restore some of her lost energy, make her more alert and in general help her to feel better. The dialysis will be done at the hospital for the first three days with her staying overnight the two nights between in case anything should go wrong. If all goes well, she will be able to go to the dialysis clinic about a half mile from here for further treatments.



I'm glad she is going to give dialysis a chance. I bet a couple of consistent weeks of it she will feel better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 22, 2015, 04:25:43 PM
leg blast..

started extensions quite heavy to warm up...175/205/235/250/265...20/15/12/12/12
squats 225/275/315/365/405,,12/12/10/8/6
leg press 5/6/7 plates 10 through
walking fllor lunges 80 lb back x2

hams
sldl 135/185/225/225
lying leg curls 140/150/150

calves
standing calf raise x3
seated calf raise x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on February 22, 2015, 08:07:52 PM
leg blast..

started extensions quite heavy to warm up...175/205/235/250/265...20/15/12/12/12
squats 225/275/315/365/405,,12/12/10/8/6
leg press 5/6/7 plates 10 through
walking fllor lunges 80 lb back x2

hams
sldl 135/185/225/225
lying leg curls 140/150/150

calves
standing calf raise x3
seated calf raise x3

Always impressed with your leg strength.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 23, 2015, 04:37:22 AM
at Home Today and full of the Flu.. :( will just go for a walk later for fresh air. Just watched this old classic Charles Bronson Film in Bed... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 23, 2015, 05:20:06 AM
Always impressed with your leg strength.
THANKS CHAOS...I THINK THERES DEF CORRELATION WITH BACK/LEGS..MY BACK IS STRONG ESP ROWING EXERCISING AND NEVER TIRES OUT LIKE MY LEGS...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 23, 2015, 05:10:10 PM
I'm glad she is going to give dialysis a chance. I bet a couple of consistent weeks of it she will feel better.

I certainly hope this is what happens. My wife has been in much better spirits since she agreed to try dialysis. I've been at the hospital most of the day with her. I'm home now and calling every 15 minutes to see if she's back in her room so I can find out how dialysis went.

When I came home, my son-in-law was installing the Insinkerator instant hot replacement equipment. I was excited to have someone else do this. I hate plumping and tight spaces. I bought it over a week ago and it has been sitting next to my desk annoying me to install it. It seems to work fine. He did a great job. Yeah for a cup of hot tea whenever you want it around here.

I feel bad for all you East Coast folks. The weather here has been amazing. Sunny again today and mild. We are supposed to get cooling and rain by Thursday for a couple of days and then it is back to sunny again. No snow. It's not so great for skiers up on Mt. Hood though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 23, 2015, 07:39:49 PM
chest

fdb press 60/75/80/85/85
decline x4
inc db 60-70'sx3
pecdeck x2
lower cable flyes x2

tri's
superset x3 rope extensions overhead and close grip press

tricep dip machine superset reverse grip pushdowsx3

kick backs finish x3 20-30 dumbells

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 23, 2015, 08:04:31 PM
I realized my body weight has been creeping up so I stopped lifting for awhile concentrating on cardio. I did 8 x one lap (440 Yards) intervals on a treadmill. The walk rest part was a half a lap (220 yards).

First quarter mile: 7:30 mile pace
2. 7:30 mile pace
3.7:30 mile pace
4. 7:30 mile pace
5. 7:14 mile pace
6. 7:14 mile pace
7. 6:59 mile pace
8. 6:36 mile pace

When I hit my goal of 8 x single laps under 7:00 minute pace I'll start running outside for some miles if the damn snow and ice recede.

Donny, I hope you recover quickly from your virus.  Rest up and forget about exercise and get well.



Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 24, 2015, 07:10:09 AM
I realized my body weight has been creeping up so I stopped lifting for awhile concentrating on cardio. I did 8 x one lap (440 Yards) intervals on a treadmill. The walk rest part was a half a lap (220 yards).

First quarter mile: 7:30 mile pace
2. 7:30 mile pace
3.7:30 mile pace
4. 7:30 mile pace
5. 7:14 mile pace
6. 7:14 mile pace
7. 6:59 mile pace
8. 6:36 mile pace

When I hit my goal of 8 x single laps under 7:00 minute pace I'll start running outside for some miles if the damn snow and ice recede.

Donny, I hope you recover quickly from your virus.  Rest up and forget about exercise and get well.




thanks. Taking it easy for a couple of days.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 24, 2015, 11:42:33 AM
Still exercising at home. Last night I did three sets of 25 squats and then three sets of 25 toe touches. It isn't much, but it is better than just sitting around vegetating.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 24, 2015, 12:16:50 PM
Still exercising at home. Last night I did three sets of 25 squats and then three sets of 25 toe touches. It isn't much, but it is better than just sitting around vegetating.
TRUE...I LIKE MY BASEMENT SETUP IN A PINCH ,,,I CAN GET A GREAT EXTRA DAY OR PUMP DAY EASY...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 24, 2015, 02:13:34 PM
Prime,Get yourself some dipping bars and a chin bar. The dipping bars cost $88 from ultimate body press and the chin bar about $54. http://www.ultimatebodypress.com/

At home you could then do something like this.

1. Lunge jumps 1 x 10 (one leg in front of the other and explode for height)
2. body weight squats 1 x max. (If you can get over 100 doing a smooth control movement hold on to something for balance and do one leg squats.)
3. pull ups1 x max
4.push ups 1 x max (alternate regular and feet elevated that gets more shoulder)
5. lat body weight rows ( use that dipping thing and face the ceiling. Put the back of feet on a chair so you are more parallel in relation to the floor.)
6. I would say a hand stand press up against a wall but they are brutally hard especially rubbing against a wall. Maybe a pair of fixed dumbbells and rep out with shoulder presses even if you just got a pair of 25lbs. Just go all the way down repping out.
7. reverse grip pull ups for bicep 1 x max
8. sit ups on the floor (these kick ass) 1 x max
9. single leg calf raises on a step. 1 x max

Repeat the sequence if you can. Truth be told once is enough. Feel free to add and subtract exercises. Like burpees for lunge jumps. Just explode up instead of standing up when you do the burpee. Maybe throw in conditioner exercises like mountain climbers. The above hits everything. Strength, power and conditioning. Maybe end with some gentle stretches. When we get older we don't even realize how stiff we gotten.

Doing stuff like this keeps you lean, hard and in shape. Real fighting shape. Anyway those are my thoughts on training at home with nearly no equipment. TRX is another route to go too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 24, 2015, 06:29:58 PM
Prime,Get yourself some dipping bars and a chin bar. The dipping bars cost $88 from ultimate body press and the chin bar about $54. http://www.ultimatebodypress.com/

At home you could then do something like this.

1. Lunge jumps 1 x 10 (one leg in front of the other and explode for height)
2. body weight squats 1 x max. (If you can get over 100 doing a smooth control movement hold on to something for balance and do one leg squats.)
3. pull ups1 x max
4.push ups 1 x max (alternate regular and feet elevated that gets more shoulder)
5. lat body weight rows ( use that dipping thing and face the ceiling. Put the back of feet on a chair so you are more parallel in relation to the floor.)
6. I would say a hand stand press up against a wall but they are brutally hard especially rubbing against a wall. Maybe a pair of fixed dumbbells and rep out with shoulder presses even if you just got a pair of 25lbs. Just go all the way down repping out.
7. reverse grip pull ups for bicep 1 x max
8. sit ups on the floor (these kick ass) 1 x max
9. single leg calf raises on a step. 1 x max

Repeat the sequence if you can. Truth be told once is enough. Feel free to add and subtract exercises. Like burpees for lunge jumps. Just explode up instead of standing up when you do the burpee. Maybe throw in conditioner exercises like mountain climbers. The above hits everything. Strength, power and conditioning. Maybe end with some gentle stretches. When we get older we don't even realize how stiff we gotten.

Doing stuff like this keeps you lean, hard and in shape. Real fighting shape. Anyway those are my thoughts on training at home with nearly no equipment. TRX is another route to go too.


Thank you. This is great advice.

For some obvious reasons, I am simply not getting to the gym like I wish I could. I spent most of the day at the hospital with my wife today. When I finally left, I just didn't have the inclination or the energy to hit the gym. When she's home, I am home with her in case she needs something. Working out at home is often the only option left in any given day.

The above being said, I love going to the gym. I love the routine of it and the fact that there are no distractions. It's selfish, but it is time I can spend on myself without worrying about anything else. It is an escape from the routine of daily life even though working out at the gym is also a routine.

I want to be like Earl. Earl is a fellow who has worked out his whole life. He is ten years older then I am. Earl can no longer drive because he has Parkinson's. He still hits the gym several times a week thanks to his wife and son who drive him there. He's no Steve Reeves, but he looks to be in fine shape for an 80 year old man. Whenever I see Earl at the gym, he inspires me. There is nothing at home that provides that level of inspiration.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on February 24, 2015, 08:10:16 PM
It is fantastic to read both the routines and the care and wisdom that goes into not only those posts but also the ones directed toward the lives of those here we call friends.


Today was pretty good for me.  Back was a warm up followed by 15 reps on palms in pull ups (failure).  Next up DB pull overs to failure 15 reps followed by another set of palms in pull ups to failure at 5 pathetic reps! 

Smith Machine bent over rows.  First set was a warm up at 15 smooth reps. The working set was with a little more weight to failure at 6 reps but prior to it I did another set of DB  pullovers to failure at 10 reps. 

Next a single set to failure of lat pull downs and then two sets of DB shrugs both to failure at 12 and 8 reps respectively followed by a set of stiff leg dead lifts on the Smith Machine.

Chest started with Machine flyes to failure followed immediately by incline Smith Machine bench press.  I set the angle on the bench to 30 degrees instead of 45 and felt so much better with very little shoulder pain!  I then did a heaver set sans the pre-exhaustion set and failed at 8 reps.  Rest and a final 4 reps with more weight done I rest/pause fashion.

Back to the flye machine and I failed at 6 reps and then immediately did a single set of machine bench presses to failure at 10 reps. 

Three sets of machine sit ups (one warm up and two working sets - Hey!  I am FLUFFY around the middle).

Done. 

Keep up the excellent work, gentlemen.  Believe me when I say it is truth that you are all inspirational to  me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 25, 2015, 03:16:47 AM
It is fantastic to read both the routines and the care and wisdom that goes into not only those posts but also the ones directed toward the lives of those here we call friends.


Today was pretty good for me.  Back was a warm up followed by 15 reps on palms in pull ups (failure).  Next up DB pull overs to failure 15 reps followed by another set of palms in pull ups to failure at 5 pathetic reps! 

Smith Machine bent over rows.  First set was a warm up at 15 smooth reps. The working set was with a little more weight to failure at 6 reps but prior to it I did another set of DB  pullovers to failure at 10 reps. 

Next a single set to failure of lat pull downs and then two sets of DB shrugs both to failure at 12 and 8 reps respectively followed by a set of stiff leg dead lifts on the Smith Machine.

Chest started with Machine flyes to failure followed immediately by incline Smith Machine bench press.  I set the angle on the bench to 30 degrees instead of 45 and felt so much better with very little shoulder pain!  I then did a heaver set sans the pre-exhaustion set and failed at 8 reps.  Rest and a final 4 reps with more weight done I rest/pause fashion.

Back to the flye machine and I failed at 6 reps and then immediately did a single set of machine bench presses to failure at 10 reps. 

Three sets of machine sit ups (one warm up and two working sets - Hey!  I am FLUFFY around the middle).

Done. 

Keep up the excellent work, gentlemen.  Believe me when I say it is truth that you are all inspirational to  me.
some great posts Guys. Today is sunny and a fresh wind blowing. I will go for a long walk later feeling a bit better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 25, 2015, 05:53:48 AM
Just an observation that really isn't a revelation to any one who has some training time. All the cardio I have been doing has made my thighs really thin. I think I'm eating up muscle.  Time to get back to the squat racks.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 25, 2015, 06:53:16 AM
Just an observation that really isn't a revelation to any one who has some training time. All the cardio I have been doing has made my thighs really thin. I think I'm eating up muscle.  Time to get back to the squat racks.
yeah.. gotta keep up the squats .. and eat enough.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 25, 2015, 07:18:11 AM
yeah.. gotta keep up the squats .. and eat enough.
X2,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 25, 2015, 07:20:07 AM
X2,,,
... and join Steve for a Quadzilla session.. double your quad size instantly ;D feel much better today will hit the weights tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 25, 2015, 07:21:02 AM
... and join Steve for a Quadzilla session.. double your quad size instantly ;D feel much better today will hit the weights tomorrow.
;D,,, 8),,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 25, 2015, 06:37:09 PM
I had the most amazing hamburger for lunch today. It was cooked rare, just like I like it. The stack was the hamburger patty, cheese, tomato, a deep fried onion ring, some pickles and loads of barbecue sauce. I had to cut it into quarters to eat it since, surprisingly, my mouth is not big enough to bite into such an enormous mound of goodness.

Lunch was at 3:00 p.m. since I'd spent most of the morning and early afternoon at the hospital with my wife. I'm going to eat a late and very lite supper tonight to make up for all those lunchtime calories. I've gained back about 6 lbs. of weight in the last couple of weeks. It's time for me to start watching what I eat and exercising more.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 25, 2015, 08:10:19 PM
back

3 sets wide grip chins and 2 inner grip
tbar row chest to pad 2 plates/2 and change/2 plates and 25
cable single handle rows x3
wide bar lower rows cable x3
standing rope pulls to waist x3

weighted hypers x3

bi's
straight bar curls x3..65/85/95
inc db curls 30/35/35
close grip curls premade bar 70 x3 bottom position to midpoint
2 sets hammer curls across instead usual up/down hammer

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 26, 2015, 07:29:48 AM
Today i started a weight workout again. I did shoulders at home.

I warmed up with jumping rope and did some push ups with feet raised.

Did a tri-set with DBs
front raises, side raises,rear delt raises 4 sets each ex
Seated DB press using back rest with a Hammer grip 4 sets
DB upright rows 4 sets

Lying knee-ins on floor 2x30-50. gives me a similar effect to rev crunches. rolling knees towards chest.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 26, 2015, 08:31:17 PM
delts

fr press x4
side lateral drops x3 30/25/15...sick pump
premade bar uprights with curl bar 70.80.90
rear seated delt raise x4 25/25/30/30
cable behind back raise x2

shrugs 225-295 x3
rear 275/275

forarms
reverse wrist curls 'bar behind back'
reverse grip curls
cable overhand wrist curl

calves
standing calf raise 140x12/160x15  200 x15,220x15,220x15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 28, 2015, 05:24:37 AM
Arms + calfs

close grip chin ups 3xmax
Incline DB curls 3 sets
Machine curls 3 sets

tricep machine 3 sets
One arm DB extensions across body 3sets
One arm reverse grip pulley pushdown 3sets

Seated calf raises 5 sets  Cardio: 30 mins Crosser
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 28, 2015, 05:30:56 AM
These are said to help boost your Bench press hitting the Medial and lateral heads more than the long head...Medial and lateral are supposed to be whatīs used more on benching. I just threw them in for variety as my long head was hit well with other exercises. Enough BLAH BLAH... a good and rarely seen exercise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 28, 2015, 06:40:56 AM
These are said to help boost your Bench press hitting the Medial and lateral heads more than the long head...Medial and lateral are supposed to be whatīs used more on benching. I just threw them in for variety as my long head was hit well with other exercises. Enough BLAH BLAH... a good and rarely seen exercise.

i like those,,need to do them again,i do the reg version hammer grip straight down to sides head then extend,,,your always trying to mix it up...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 28, 2015, 07:08:58 AM
A lot of Variations out there Steve as you know... yeah you gotta keep stimulating your mind too  ;D Mix and Match...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 28, 2015, 05:25:39 PM
I know I don't keep up on this thread. I trained back and chest today.

Chins 2 x max
Low cable row with a V handle 2 x 12
Dumbbell lat row with knee on bench 2 x 10
reverse grip cable pull down 2 x 10

Dumbbell flat bench 2 x 8 (I go as low as possible. It limits the weight but I care about hitting the muscle and not the ego)
Incline dumbbell bench 2 x 8
Flat dumbbell flies 2 x 10
Push ups 2 x max

Deadlifts 2 x 4 then 1 x 1
Weighted hyper extension 2 x 12
Weighted flat crunches 1 x 55

I was spent afterwards. For decades I always had a protein shake after my workouts and it feels strange that I don't do it now.  I gave up all supplements. The one big difference is that my stomach feels great. Taking creatine, whey protein, and all those vitamin pills really played a number on my stomach that I just accepted as normal. When I gave up supplements I can't believe how much better I felt. I still have in the back of my mind I would make better gains with a protein shake and creatine but torn if it's just psychological.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 28, 2015, 06:35:46 PM
Greetings all!

My delt training this afternoon,

10 giant sets: seated DB front, side and standing rear raises, every rep with an emphasis on the contraction
1 30-rep drop down set: seated DB press
Game, set & toasted!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on February 28, 2015, 07:30:40 PM
These are said to help boost your Bench press hitting the Medial and lateral heads more than the long head...Medial and lateral are supposed to be whatīs used more on benching. I just threw them in for variety as my long head was hit well with other exercises. Enough BLAH BLAH... a good and rarely seen exercise.

I do a two handed version to the center on the chest that gets a nice burn going.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 01, 2015, 10:35:28 AM
leg day yesterday,,,today sore very..

hack v squat ,,,warmed 2 per side,,worked 3/4/5/6 plates
leg press narrow feet position 5/6/7/7 plates
lunges 50 lb db instead walking staid in place and just went one foward and back each leg x2,,
extensions 220x15.230 x2x15

hams
sldl 135/185/225/225
seated leg curls 180/195/210

calves
alternated seated calf raise 2 plates x20/3 plates x15/3 plates 25 x12...kinda superset 30 seconds between
standing calf raise 200/200/200 x10
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 01, 2015, 01:43:15 PM
I trained legs today. I rarely put down weight used because it's meaningless. You can't see range of motion, cadence, or the differences between machines. My lat pulldown machine with just a little little weight feels like a heavy weight. It's a unit built for home use. When I go to a gym and use the slick professional grade that glides I often use 40 pounds more on their pull down.

No warm up listed.

1.Leg press 2 x 12  (8 plates. Had the back board low and went super deep bending my legs)
2. Squats 2 x 8 then 1 x 1 (legs are shot from running too much and pre exhausting with the leg press prior.)
3. stiff leg deadlift 2 x 6 185 ( touched the bar on the tops of my feet each rep)
4. leg extensions 2 x 20
5. seated leg curl 2 x 15

1. single dumbbell side bends 1 x 15 85lbs
2. hanging leg raise 2 x max
3. pulley crunches.

1. leg press calf raise 2 x 20
2. standing calf raise 2 x 15 270lbs
3. seated calf raise 2 x 15

Neck work.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 01, 2015, 02:13:55 PM
'Leg-attack' today:

8 super sets sissy squats with walking lunges
2 super sets sissy squats with the adductor machine (no homo)
1 30+rep drop down set single leg extention
1 30+rep drop down set standing single leg curl
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 01, 2015, 07:20:43 PM
I change my routines constantly. The latest I hope to keep up for a couple of weeks is 3 on and 2 off. Day one:Back and chest. Day two: legs. Day Three: delts and arms. Day four: hard cardio intervals on the treadmill. Day five: off. Day six begin the cycle again.

I use to use 3 on and 2 off when I was younger. When I was younger making my best lifting gains I hardly did cardio. It's different now that I'm older. I'm more aware of training the heart muscle and it's importance as I age. Combining cardio and lifting is fine balance. Too much cardio and lifting suffers. Too much heavy lifting and cardio suffers.

One of the things that have sabotaged my workouts is trying to increase the weight too much. If I can keep from being foolish from my over enthusiasm to add weight to bar to quickly maybe I can have a good run with this routine. Usually I go balls to the wall and burn out quickly. Bill Pearl said something to the effect what's better? Getting in 3 months of consistent training or training like a lunatic for 3 weeks and burning out?  I know repeatedly in my lifting life that I would make quick and substantial gains in 3 to 4  weeks but be so exhausted I needed to take a week off because of it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 01, 2015, 10:24:02 PM
My wife starts regular dialysis tomorrow. Regular means she is doing it three days a week, Monday, Wednesday and Friday for four hours each day. The dialysis center is near our home. It just occurred to me that while she is doing dialysis, I could hit the gym since there is no real need for me to be with her while she is there. It could be a win, win. She'll get her blood cleaned and I will get in a workout.

I've not done a three day a week routine for years. While I would like to do more, it is better than what I am currently doing which is almost nothing. Any suggestions on what I should include in this limited routine is greatly appreciated.

Last night I worked legs in the living room while watching TV. I did 4 X 25 squats, 4 X 25 stiff legged toe touches and 4 X 25 leg extensions. All exercises were full range movements using bodyweight only. It is hardly weight lifting, but it is better than doing nothing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 02, 2015, 11:29:45 AM
Prime, how about back and chest on Monday. Wednesday is leg day. Friday is delts and arm day.  The over lap in body parts will make sure they get hit twice a week. Maybe use 3 to 4 exercises a body part for 2 work sets. Use a non counting warm up set as needed. Workouts should last a little over an hour to maybe 90 minutes if your taking long rests due to the weight used. Walk fast outside on days off at home.  

If you want to go old school and to make sure body parts are hit hard three times a week whole body routines are great. They are also great for conditioning since they are so hard. When I hear someone say a whole body routine is a beginner routine I get pissed off because they are way harder than split routines.

Maybe something like this.
1.Squats 2 x 8 (leg)
2.stiff leg dead 2 x 8 (use dumbbells or a barbell. For lower back and hamstrings)
3. flat dumbbell bench 2 x 8 (chest)
4. pull downs 2 x 10 (lat)
5. dumbbell row with knee on bench 2 x 10 (lat)
6. military press 2 x 8 (delt)
7. dumbbell lateral 1 x 10 (delt)
8. dumbbell shrugs 1 x 10
9. tricep 2 x 10 (what ever you want. Push downs, extensions, close grip)
10. bicep 2 x 10 (again pick something)
11. ab giant set of one set each. Maybe situps- hanging leg raise-crunch-machine)
12. calf raise 2 x 15

After a month change exercises for each one.


You have been lifting long enough to do your own stuff but you asked for a suggestions. Those are my thoughts. Hope your wife regains her strength both physically and mentally. I would imagine the blood cleaning will take a couple of weeks before the full benefits will be seen.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 02, 2015, 11:37:38 AM
Prime, how about back and chest on Monday. Wednesday is leg day. Friday is delts and arm day.  The over lap in body parts will make sure they get hit twice a week. Maybe use 3 to 4 exercises a body part for 2 work sets. Use a non counting warm up set as needed. Workouts should last a little over an hour to maybe 90 minutes if your taking long rests due to the weight used. Walk fast outside on days off at home.  

If you want to go old school and to make sure body parts are hit hard three times a week whole body routines are great. They are also great for conditioning since they are so hard. When I hear someone say a whole body routine is a beginner routine I get pissed off because they are way harder than split routines.

Maybe something like this.
1.Squats 2 x 8 (leg)
2.stiff leg dead 2 x 8 (use dumbbells or a barbell. For lower back and hamstrings)
3. flat dumbbell bench 2 x 8 (chest)
4. pull downs 2 x 10 (lat)
5. dumbbell row with knee on bench 2 x 10 (lat)
6. military press 2 x 8 (delt)
7. dumbbell lateral 1 x 10 (delt)
8. dumbbell shrugs 1 x 10
9. tricep 2 x 10 (what ever you want. Push downs, extensions, close grip)
10. bicep 2 x 10 (again pick something)
11. ab giant set of one set each. Maybe situps- hanging leg raise-crunch-machine)
12. calf raise 2 x 15

After a month change exercises for each one.


You have been lifting long enough to do your own stuff but you asked for a suggestions. Those are my thoughts. Hope your wife regains her strength both physically and mentally. I would imagine the blood cleaning will take a couple of weeks before the full benefits will be seen.


I LIKE READING YOUR WORKOUTS RICH...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 02, 2015, 12:05:14 PM
Woke up smelling smoke and my first floor heater isn't working. Called for service and the gas guys came with their sniffing machines. We have had two houses in the area blow up from leaking natural gas so they came quick. NJFlex, the two houses were in Stafford and Point Pleasant. They found nothing regarding leaking gas. Now waiting for the service guy to fix the down stairs heater. It's freezing in here. I want to train delt and arms but I have to wait for this guy.  I think my ass is numb from sitting on it doing the computer waiting for him to show up. I can only do so much face book, get big and checking out thick milfs on the computer. I have to train. I guess I'll just have to check out some more milfs. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 02, 2015, 12:09:30 PM
Woke up smelling smoke and my first floor heater isn't working. Called for service and the gas guys came with their sniffing machines. We have had two houses in the area blow up from leaking natural gas so they came quick. NJFlex, the two houses were in Stafford and Point Pleasant. They found nothing regarding leaking gas. Now waiting for the service guy to fix the down stairs heater. It's freezing in here. I want to train delt and arms but I have to wait for this guy.  I think my ass is numb from sitting on it doing the computer waiting for him to show up. I can only do so much face book, get big and checking out thick milfs on the computer. I have to train. I guess I'll just have to check out some more milfs. 
LAST WEEK AUGUST I WILL BE IN LAVALETTE VACA,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 02, 2015, 12:27:31 PM
That's right by me. Maybe we could go for a run on the Lavalette boardwalk then a beer on the Seaside Heights board walk. If your looking for a close by gym there is Retro on SH 37 west maybe 2 miles past the bridge. I bet they would offer a week membership for a vacationer.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 02, 2015, 12:33:45 PM
That's right by me. Maybe we could go for a run on the Lavalette boardwalk then a beer on the Seaside Heights board walk. If your looking for a close by gym there is Retro on SH 37 west maybe 2 miles past the bridge. I bet they would offer a week membership for a vacationer.
I haven't stayed in lavalette in long time ,I grew up going to same shore house there growing up'jersey city ave'down corner 'oven pizzeria'kays bakery,krones resteraunt few blocks down,barnacle bills golf/arcade...good memories ,,I have been going to lbi for 10 or so yrs lately..yeah we could catch up then,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 02, 2015, 01:14:37 PM
Lavalette is perfect. Use the beach and when you want some fun head over with the family to Seaside Heights for some entertainment like the arcades, restaurants,bars or rides. Just gets a little hairy at night fall. When I was in my late teens and early twenties we would always rent out a beach house in seaside heights for a week. I guess it was the original Jersey shore house/animal house. I can't believe I live at the shore but vacation in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. I think it just feels like getting away. I stay in the nicest luxury condo building on the beach  in South Carolina  and it's cheaper than renting a beach house in Lavalette. We go to the beach and board walk year round. I live on the other side of the bay.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 02, 2015, 04:26:01 PM
'Armattackon' day

10 super sets: laying DB tricep extentions & seated DB hammer curls
1 30+ rep drop down set: DB kick backs
1 30+ rep drop down set: DB concentration curls
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 02, 2015, 06:13:42 PM
Prime, how about back and chest on Monday. Wednesday is leg day. Friday is delts and arm day.  The over lap in body parts will make sure they get hit twice a week. Maybe use 3 to 4 exercises a body part for 2 work sets. Use a non counting warm up set as needed. Workouts should last a little over an hour to maybe 90 minutes if your taking long rests due to the weight used. Walk fast outside on days off at home.  

If you want to go old school and to make sure body parts are hit hard three times a week whole body routines are great. They are also great for conditioning since they are so hard. When I hear someone say a whole body routine is a beginner routine I get pissed off because they are way harder than split routines.

Maybe something like this.
1.Squats 2 x 8 (leg)
2.stiff leg dead 2 x 8 (use dumbbells or a barbell. For lower back and hamstrings)
3. flat dumbbell bench 2 x 8 (chest)
4. pull downs 2 x 10 (lat)
5. dumbbell row with knee on bench 2 x 10 (lat)
6. military press 2 x 8 (delt)
7. dumbbell lateral 1 x 10 (delt)
8. dumbbell shrugs 1 x 10
9. tricep 2 x 10 (what ever you want. Push downs, extensions, close grip)
10. bicep 2 x 10 (again pick something)
11. ab giant set of one set each. Maybe situps- hanging leg raise-crunch-machine)
12. calf raise 2 x 15

After a month change exercises for each one.


You have been lifting long enough to do your own stuff but you asked for a suggestions. Those are my thoughts. Hope your wife regains her strength both physically and mentally. I would imagine the blood cleaning will take a couple of weeks before the full benefits will be seen.



Seems like a plan. Thanks.

Didn't make it to the gym today since there was a lot of paperwork to fill out. I ran home to get some additional documents and my wife's insulin pen. Then I picked up lunch for both of us which we ate while she was doing dialysis. They are still ramping up her dialysis slowly, so today's session was 3 instead of 4 hours.

Hopefully Wednesday will be a little less hectic and I can make it to the gym.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 02, 2015, 06:15:43 PM
I did delt and arms. No warm ups listed.

Military press 2 x 8 ( I cleaned the weight to begin and went all the way down to my chest each rep)
dumbbell laterals 2 x 10
4 hole pulley laterals 1 x 10
rear dumbbell laterals 2 x 10
Shrugs 2 x 10

traditional pulley push downs 2 x 10
tricep extension on a bench (skull crushers) 2 x 8
single two hand dumbbell  tricep extensions 2 x 10

barbell curls 2 x 10
alternate dumbbell curl 2 x 8
single D ring handle curl 2 x 12

forearm wrist curls 2 x 20
reverse wrist extension 2 x 15

incline situps 1 x 30
weighted crunches 1 x 55
pulley crunches 2 x 30

Ivanko grippers 2 x 20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 02, 2015, 06:16:49 PM
Seems like a plan. Thanks.

Didn't make it to the gym today since there was a lot of paperwork to fill out. I ran home to get some additional documents and my wife's insulin pen. Then I picked up lunch for both of us which we ate while she was doing dialysis. They are still ramping up her dialysis slowly, so today's session was 3 instead of 4 hours.

Hopefully Wednesday will be a little less hectic and I can make it to the gym.

Even if you get two whole body routines in a week you are moving forward.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 02, 2015, 06:20:49 PM
Even if you get two whole body routines in a week you are moving forward.

Agreed.

Our son-in-law took care of mowing the grass today and our daughter vacuumed the house. Don't know how I'd manage without their generous help.

My wife is feeling well enough tonight that she is fixing dinner. She's fixing chicken wings, oven fried potatoes and green beans. Pretty basic stuff, but good eats.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 02, 2015, 06:38:11 PM
Agreed.

Our son-in-law took care of mowing the grass today and our daughter vacuumed the house. Don't know how I'd manage without their generous help.

My wife is feeling well enough tonight that she is fixing dinner. She's fixing chicken wings, oven fried potatoes and green beans. Pretty basic stuff, but good eats.

Warms my heart to hear that your wife is making dinner and your family is pitching in with help.  Enjoy your meal and your family.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 02, 2015, 06:51:33 PM
She started the wings, seasoned them and did put them in the oven to cook. I just turned them to cook on the other side and will toss them in barbecue sauce when they are done. She's resting now. She loves to cook, but gets winded really easily, so I am happy to step in and take over when that happens.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 02, 2015, 07:27:03 PM
chest,,trained a bit under weather'head cold'nothing that could stop training.

fdb 60/70/80/85..12/10/9/6
decline press x3
inc db 60/65/65  x10
cable crossovers upper x2 and lower x2
dips x2x20

tris,,supersetting

oldschool premade bar skullcrushers with rope pushdowns x3

reverse underhand pushdowns with close grip press x3

finished with donny's video across body db extension x3 15/20/20 lb dbells x12

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 03, 2015, 02:21:17 AM
chest,,trained a bit under weather'head cold'nothing that could stop training.

fdb 60/70/80/85..12/10/9/6
decline press x3
inc db 60/65/65  x10
cable crossovers upper x2 and lower x2
dips x2x20

tris,,supersetting

oldschool premade bar skullcrushers with rope pushdowns x3

reverse underhand pushdowns with close grip press x3

finished with donny's video across body db extension x3 15/20/20 lb dbells x12

abs
Nice one Steve.. I trained chest this morning..

Incline BB press 3 sets
Incline Flys 3 sets
Flat DB press 3 sets
Flat Flys 3 sets
2 sets max push ups

Cardio will be a Run through the woods later. i have to take my car to the Garage in between to get it fixed. Get a car from the Garage for a few days while itīs being fixed. Home workout today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 04, 2015, 06:45:53 AM
So today was a leg workout..

Leg Extensions Superset with Front squats 3 sets per ex
leg press 3 sets

Leg curls Superset with Stiff deadlifts 3 sets per ex

standing Calf raises(smith machine) 5 sets 

Cable crunches 3 sets Hanging Knee raises 3 sets. 

Before i did my leg workout i did 15 mins stationary Bike slowly cranking up the resistance. Gets the Blood flowing around the body and joints ready. Worked at a quick pace today.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 04, 2015, 08:21:28 AM
Training 3 on and 2 off. Today is my second day off. Doing nothing today. Now go back to what you were doing. About to crack open an afternoon beer.

I realized I have been doing a little too much cardio. When I took 250 lbs off the squat racks and it felt like a million pounds I knew all the running burned muscle off. I always have trouble with balance. I want to have both good lifting and good cardio. That's tough. Guys into fitness will lean one way or the other instead of trying to be good in both. Some guys will lift weights hard and do some light cardio. Other guys burn the cardio into the ground then do some light lifting. Hard to be good at both.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 04, 2015, 11:29:53 PM
Wednesday Update.

So I took my wife to dialysis today at 11:30 a.m. I thought she was going to be there for 3 hours. My original plan was to hit the gym while she had her blood sorted out. This never happened. I had a bunch of chores to do. When I headed back to the dialysis center, they said it would be another hour because they were doing her monthly labs. So I took a late lunch, picked up her prescriptions and headed back over to the center, only to sit there waiting another :45 before she was done.

Damn! We need to get this sorted out. I want a little piece of life of my own. I know I am impatient but I am not sure how much more of this I can endure. Margie has had a cell phone, which she doesn't use, since I got it for her several years ago. I told her that she needs to take it with her to dialysis on Friday so she can call me when it is time for me to pick her up. If I am at the gym, it is only 20 minutes away. If I am at home, it is 5 minutes away.

Sorry for the rant, but it has been a tough day. There have been moments when I thought if I'd known what I was signing up for, I would never have married. I feel like I have no control over my own life. I am being a big baby. I can't help it. This is just how I am feeling right now. I've actually thought about getting in the car and just disappearing to parts unknown.

I am not as strong as some people like to give me credit for being.

I did fix a gourmet cream of asparagus soup for dinner tonight after we got home. At least I accomplished something that I can boast about. Aside form that, the day feels like a failure.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 05, 2015, 01:54:53 AM
Wednesday Update.

So I took my wife to dialysis today at 11:30 a.m. I thought she was going to be there for 3 hours. My original plan was to hit the gym while she had her blood sorted out. This never happened. I had a bunch of chores to do. When I headed back to the dialysis center, they said it would be another hour because they were doing her monthly labs. So I took a late lunch, picked up her prescriptions and headed back over to the center, only to sit there waiting another :45 before she was done.

Damn! We need to get this sorted out. I want a little piece of life of my own. I know I am impatient but I am not sure how much more of this I can endure. Margie has had a cell phone, which she doesn't use, since I got it for her several years ago. I told her that she needs to take it with her to dialysis on Friday so she can call me when it is time for me to pick her up. If I am at the gym, it is only 20 minutes away. If I am at home, it is 5 minutes away.

Sorry for the rant, but it has been a tough day. There have been moments when I thought if I'd known what I was signing up for, I would never have married. I feel like I have no control over my own life. I am being a big baby. I can't help it. This is just how I am feeling right now. I've actually thought about getting in the car and just disappearing to parts unknown.

I am not as strong as some people like to give me credit for being.

I did fix a gourmet cream of asparagus soup for dinner tonight after we got home. At least I accomplished something that I can boast about. Aside form that, the day feels like a failure.
You are not feeling anything else other than normal Human emotions, very understandable in your position Jay. The soup sounded great !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 05, 2015, 06:20:50 AM
You are not feeling anything else other than normal Human emotions, very understandable in your position Jay. The soup sounded great !
WELL PUT.....LIFE REALLY IS A ROLLERCOASTER THE LONGER YOU LIVE/SEE...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 05, 2015, 07:00:41 AM
Prime, you might be better off getting Ironmind dumbbells or powerblocks and their multi benches. You can do so much is a very small space in your house. The Ironmind bench actually has every attachment you can think of. The powerblock bench has just a a chin and a dip attachment but when you think about anything else is just extra.

A secretary at my former job is about 300lbs plus. She wrote on face book that she is getting serious about losing weight. She wrote that she is only eating prepared food in tupperware at work. That's a positive thing we all can agree. I told her I would help with the exercise. She wrote back and said she has no time for exercise. Of course it's a typical response from obese women I have found. I told her it would be gentle exercise for many months. I sent her this email below. I got zero response back and I think she hid me on her facebook. I have run into this mind set before.  Many women who have never exercised in their life and are morbidly obese think exercise is something that is so horrific it's to be avoided. If you talk to them they say in so many words they believe they need rest because they are tire and not exercise.


This is the email I sent her.

A huge part of losing weight is working out.  I believe in a combo of strength, flexibility, power and cardio. I believe the base has to be cardio before anything for most people. I used a variation of this program when I hurt my arm. I had it operated on and prior to that I was lifting weights very hard. With my arm in a splint I couldn't run without pain jarring it. I decided to do what I could do and that was walking on a treadmill. Now I'm very hard on myself and push it hard but I believe it can work for everyone. At the end of my walking when I could run I was shocked in what kind of cardio shape I was in from walking.

Since you have limited time there are challenges. I would like to see you do some kind of cardio 6 days a week. Don't be concerned we will start out very non intensely. Since you say you have two on and two off it's going to be tough. Cardio works best when it's consistently applied unlike weight lifting where you can move in a positive direction with two workouts a week concerning strength training. What I would like to see is for you is to never miss a day using my program on your off days of work. On your on days I hope you do what every you like to do on the elliptical I assume you have at home. S o to clarify Two days at work maybe use your elliptical for 20 minutes in what ever way you want. The two days off you stick with my program.

To start off every treadmill has a slightly different buttons displays. Use a manual mode so you control it. The display of speed is usually shown in MPH or pace per mile. Some you can toggle it from one display of speed to the other. Use MPH for now. Most runners us pace per mile. The second thing you need to be in control of is incline. Normally a push of the incline button will incline the treadmill 1% grade. Many commercial treadmills go all the way up to 15% grade. Manipulating the grade is an important part of the workout. Lastly is distance. For this program you have to know if you did one lap around a track. Many treadmills have a light display going in a circle oval showing where you are on a track. A lap is a quarter mile or 440 yards. If they don't have that great feature and shockingly some expensive treadmills don't it will show a quarter mile as .25.  So lap one will be .25.  The second lap will be.50. Third .75 and so on. Hope I haven't lost you. So the three things you need to know is speed, incline and distance.  

What I want you to do in terms of effort is to try to do better each cardio session. Know to do this in a linear fashion is impossible but a goal to try for. Some days you just don't have it. That's more than okay. Just know that if you didn't reach your goal that tomorrow is another day.

Here's the start of the program. Walk at 2.0 MPH on the treadmill. Use the safety cut up switch clip by attaching it your shorts or bottoms. You don't want to fall and have that belt moving. Most times it will just shoot you off but better that it stops.  

Back to the program. Start by walking at 2.0 MPH on 0% grade for one lap on the electronic track or .25 distance. 0% grade is level with no incline. The math off the top of my head is that it take a little over 7 minutes to do one lap. Here's the guts of the program. Every lap you will increase the incline 1% grade. So lap one is level. Second lap is 1% incline. The third lap or quarter mile is 2 % incline. You are climbing a ladder of intensity.  What I want you to do is to keep climbing up the incline 1% a lap. Don't deviate from this. Don't say one lap at level incline is easy I will jump to 5%.  

Intensity of effort explanation: What I want you to do and walking at this speed will take time is to keep going up incline until you feel that you had enough. When you feel this gut out that last lap you are on until completed then always do a final lap at where you started at 0% grade. Let's say on day one you get on the treadmill walking at 2.0 mph. Your workout in this hypothetical situation went like this. First lap you went at 2.0 MPH on level ground. It feels slightly fast but comfortable. Your balance is feeling better after a minute or two. Here comes the second lap. Hit the incline button. Good, 1% incline. You complete the second lap and feel like your working hard but all is well. Third lap. Hit the incline button and now you're at 2% incline. It's beginning to hurt and feel tough. Your breathing is hard. You have a feeling you want to stop but you will gut it out to complete the third lap at 2% incline. You finish it and hit the incline/decline button to return to level ground. Now this final lap seems easy after walking on a grade. You finish your final lap. Great!  You walked a total of a mile. Next day your goal is to get to that 3% grade. Like I said every workout you will try to reach a new level. If you exceed what I wrote or go below it is all good. Just a hypothetical workout.

More thoughts on effort. Let's say you got to level 7% incline grade.  Maybe you want to stay there for awhile and not increase. Maybe one day you are not feeling it and only go to 5% grade. It's okay. You can't always bang your head so to speak against the wall.

Results: What happens with cardio is a strange adaptation. It's always work but after awhile it feels good to get that work in. Instead of leaving exhausted like in the beginning you start to feel invigorated after a workout. I know that's hard to believe but it's true. A runner's high is real. It's a real depression lifter.

I want your goal at this point is to get to level 8% incline at 2.0 MPH. When that goal is reached we will revamp things. I know many will say intensity intervals for cardio is better. I think a this stage low intensity will carry us far for now. Do this program as much  as you can. Minimum 4 days a week and maximum 6 days. Forget about weights and anything else except mild stretching after cardio.  

Everyone wants results immediately. That's the wrong mind set. You might find that after a month your not losing as fast as you want too. Losing weight is a puzzling situation. I find some lose a little the first month and the second it becomes drastic. What matters is the direction and not the amount. If you consistently apply the program the intensity will rise to the point where you are going on that treadmill doing some serious work through walking. It won't be now but in May if consistently applied then watch out for drastic drops in weight.  An exercise work  ethic is like a muscle. No one has it. It has to be put to the test so it develops in a positive adaptation.

Try to be consistent with the program. When you can do 4 workouts in a row at 2.0 MPH climbing the ladder one lap at a time to 8% incline and finish with a 0% level lap we will increase the speed.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 05, 2015, 08:06:31 AM
have a crappy 4 day head cold ,,feeling better..left work yesterday early ,,did delts/bi's @home...

started 4 sets tri sets side/fr/rear raises 10 reps per,,

2 set drop db presses 3 drops per

cable upright rows x3

2 sets bertil fox raises

bi's
db curls x3 standing bent down arm hanging next to knee and curl
hammer concentration curls 6 reps then right to 6 reps standing db curls 6 reps x3
cable curls x5 ,,3 sets bottom to top,2 sets finish top to mid point
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 05, 2015, 09:04:23 AM
have a crappy 4 day head cold ,,feeling better..left work yesterday early ,,did delts/bi's @home...

started 4 sets tri sets side/fr/rear raises 10 reps per,,

2 set drop db presses 3 drops per

cable upright rows x3

2 sets bertil fox raises

bi's
db curls x3 standing bent down arm hanging next to knee and curl
hammer concentration curls 6 reps then right to 6 reps standing db curls 6 reps x3
cable curls x5 ,,3 sets bottom to top,2 sets finish top to mid point
Get better Bro.. i have not done Bertil Fox raises in a long time great choice.

Today i did back..

Front chins 4x max
close grip pulldowns 3 sets
BB pullovers  Superset with BB rows 4 sets per exercise
close grip upright rows 3 sets

Cardio crosser 30 mins.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 05, 2015, 07:39:43 PM
back

chins wide x2 inner grip x2
bent over rows 135/185/195/225
low row machine chest to pad ,175/190/200
rope pulls seated pulled high and back'upper back/mid trapx3
standing pulldowns small bar pulls to waist x2

lower back hypers x3 weighted

traps
shrugs 225-275-315-315
cable single hand grip side shrugs x3

abs
5 sets x30 crunch roller machine

calves
3 sets 4 set drops x10 reps 200/180/160/140
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 06, 2015, 04:58:34 AM
Donny asked me to let you know that he's been banned. I don't know what happened but I told him to email Ron.  :(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 06, 2015, 09:47:35 AM
Donny asked me to let you know that he's been banned. I don't know what happened but I told him to email Ron.  :(
did he get at it with chaos again....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 06, 2015, 01:39:27 PM
I'm out of the loop. Why did Donny get banned?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 06, 2015, 01:51:01 PM
Donny is a great guy and someone I consider a friend. Heck, I even invited him to my 70th birthday party when I was in Germany last August.

I don't know what provoked whichever mod banned him, but I don't like it at all. Donny has posted a shitload of good advice on Getbig. That should count for something, even if he did screw up and piss off the wrong person.

Those of us who consider ourselves his friend or even just post in this thread should campaign to have his ban lifted.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 06, 2015, 01:56:13 PM
Trained back and chest today. Nothing different from the usual but I tried to push the amount of weight used. No warm ups listed. Using heavier weight meant longer rests. Workout took me 10 minutes longer than usual.

1. Pull ups (change the way I do them. Normally I do something like 2 sets of 10. This time I just said I want 25 reps. Didn't count the sets. Dead hanged all the way down and went up until my elbows were down against my rib cage and the bar was at the top of my chest.
2.Low seated cable rows with V bar 2 x 12
3.Single dumbbell row knee on bench 2 x 10
4.Reverse grip lat pulldown 2 x 10

1.Flat dumbbell bench 2 x 8
2.Incline dumbbell bench 2 x 8
3.Flat flies 2 x 10
4.push ups 2 x max (regular pushups and pushups using Perfect Pushup handles to get a better range of motion and a stretch.  Sometime I think I'm going to abandoned all weight chest presses and just use pushups. I haven't gotten there yet but my shoulders never protest doing pushups. Only with weights. )

1.dead lifts 2 x 4 1 x 1
2.weighted hyperextensions 2 x 15 (used a 25lb plate behind my head. I use an old school horizontal hyperextension bench. Those new 45 degree ones the tension just about goes to zero as you complete the movement. Just a bad design. )

1.weighted crunches 1 x 30 (used a 10lbs plate behind my head for slow complete cunches. )
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 06, 2015, 03:10:41 PM
did he get at it with chaos again....

A heated debate about the best exercise for the long head of the triceps?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 06, 2015, 04:00:42 PM
I think it's just a time out for a few days. He should be back.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 06, 2015, 04:16:50 PM
I think it's just a time out for a few days. He should be back.

Princess L once explained the difference between time out and being banned. I am not sure what that is anymore. I have the impression they are going to let him back after things cool down. I certainly hope so.

From what I understand the discussion in question took place in an inappropriate thread. Apparently, if you get into it with someone, you must "take it outside" as we sometimes heard from our parents when we were kids.

The rules are the rules here. If you violate them, you face consequences. If you forget about them in the heat of the moment and engage in an inappropriate discussion in the wrong place, you're sunk.

Are we really that juvenile? Getbig seems more and more like middle school everyday.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on March 06, 2015, 06:11:07 PM
Princess L once explained the difference between time out and being banned. I am not sure what that is anymore. I have the impression they are going to let him back after things cool down. I certainly hope so.

From what I understand the discussion in question took place in an inappropriate thread. Apparently, if you get into it with someone, you must "take it outside" as we sometimes heard from our parents when we were kids.

The rules are the rules here. If you violate them, you face consequences. If you forget about them in the heat of the moment and engage in an inappropriate discussion in the wrong place, you're sunk.

Are we really that juvenile? Getbig seems more and more like middle school everyday.
Hardly a "forget the rules in the heat of the moment attack." I understand you guys are buddies and that's great, but repeated warnings go unheaded and are reacted to with more aggression and dares to ban, then you get what you ask for. I like the fact that there is a few guys that post here that can share their experiences and thoughts on training and life and not get into flaming wars and arguments over a difference of opinions. But there are differences in opinions, many training styles will lead to the same results and many peoples experiences and preferences are expressed and should be respected. At least on the training board, that's why we're here. I would suggest that if someone wishes to engage in a flamefest or any other type of verbal war they should take it to the general board where it's more acceptable. All in all, I like to come here and read other peoples experiences and see their styles of workouts, I would hope you guys do too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 07, 2015, 07:43:00 AM
Hardly a "forget the rules in the heat of the moment attack." I understand you guys are buddies and that's great, but repeated warnings go unheaded and are reacted to with more aggression and dares to ban, then you get what you ask for. I like the fact that there is a few guys that post here that can share their experiences and thoughts on training and life and not get into flaming wars and arguments over a difference of opinions. But there are differences in opinions, many training styles will lead to the same results and many peoples experiences and preferences are expressed and should be respected. At least on the training board, that's why we're here. I would suggest that if someone wishes to engage in a flamefest or any other type of verbal war they should take it to the general board where it's more acceptable. All in all, I like to come here and read other peoples experiences and see their styles of workouts, I would hope you guys do too.
WELL PUT,,,I HAVE NEVER SAID A NEGATIVE WORD ABOUT ANY OF THESES POSTERS HERE EVER,IN FACT ALL OF THE ABOVE HERE INCLUSING CHAOS HAVE BEEN PM BUDDIES OF MINE FOR YEARS,,THERE IS A CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL IN THE TRAINING SECTION THAT HAS A  POSTING STYLE/OPINION THAT OF PUTS DONNY AND GETS HIM A BIT PISSED..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on March 07, 2015, 08:13:31 AM
Well I am sorry to read this but can easily understand how and why Donny got upset.  It happens to all of us.  I can be the biggest ass on here and constantly have to remind myself that its just a forum but words have meaning and as such must be chosen carefully.

With humor.

With style.

But sometimes with reckless abandon.  ;D   

Donny is a good man and as good a friend one can have without ever meeting him, which, if it ever happens I will be only too glad to shake his hand.  Hopefully the target of his ire is serving time too.  If not I am bringing Johnny Cochran back from the grave and hiring him ASAP  to rep our man Donny!

Here's to the return of Donny.  Looking forward to reading his thoughts again.


Oh yeah...I trained yesterday.  Four sets each of back and chest.  Two sets of stomach.  i am sore.  New medicine they are trying on me is giving me horrid cramps.  Makes for some funny scenes in the gym let alone home.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 07, 2015, 12:29:04 PM
Attempting a bit of clarity on this matter.

If not known before, the "question about cardio for leans" is the thread targeted. It was not  an "inappropriate" subject matter, by any stretch of the imagination, but a simply inquiry . Not earthshaking, of course (It's GB after all), but still much of a very basic question.

Reading from page one, should give a better insight on the behavior of  a certain individual. Now it's human nature for some of us to become a bit upset if others disagree at some point in a discussion...we all understand that. But reaching the point of radical and threatening  , verging on questioning one's own emotional health, is something totally different. Trying to keep a civil attitude on GB can be quite the challenge, for some, at times.  Being your own worse enemy is not the best of plans. it never works out well.

The gentleman in question has a long history on GB of similar outburst. On the other hand, he seems quite adaptable to this, the Mature thread. Hopefully he have found some comfort and peace here.

Just for the sake of clarity. It generally takes two to have a disagreement. In re-reading the thread where all the action happened, it seems like it was a three way disagreement. Everyone involved could have taken a step back and things probably would have ended up differently.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 07, 2015, 12:36:31 PM
Maybe the Mature thread should be moved to the history section so the two guys butting heads can avoid each other.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 09, 2015, 11:57:21 AM
Flap over....the Don is Back  ;D  Thanks Ronaldo  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on March 09, 2015, 12:18:02 PM
Just for the sake of clarity. It generally takes two to have a disagreement. In re-reading the thread where all the action happened, it seems like it was a three way disagreement. Everyone involved could have taken a step back and things probably would have ended up differently.


Lol, unique perspectives are what getbig is all about.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 09, 2015, 12:32:24 PM
well i hope we are all feeling refreshed now. Was running earlier, showered, good meal. Thank you for the support guys and Karen.  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 09, 2015, 01:03:13 PM
THE BIG D IN THE HOUSE..... 8)

LEGS SUNDAY

LEG PRESS WARMED UP ...THEN 5/6/7/7 PLATES AND 25
CLOSE STANCE SQUATS 225/275/315/315 SET 10/12
LEG EXTENSIONS 220/235/250/250

HAMS
SLDL DBELLS,,60/70/80/85
LYING LEG CURLS 140/155 X4

CALVES
STANDING CALF RAISE X4 X12 REPS 200/200/220/220 VERY SLOW STRETCH TO MID TO LOWER TO UP'SQUEEZE'GOOD PUMP '
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 09, 2015, 02:12:33 PM
Trained delts and arms today. I really tried to up the poundages used. A couple of times I missed my rep goals because I was over enthusiastic with my weight choices but I reached goal in most of the exercises. With the single dumbbell two hand triceps extension I nearly dropped the weight on my head as I got close to exhaustion. I have to watch that one.  I used 80lbs. and really went as low as physically possible bending my arms fully. On my last rep things got a little squirrely.  

No warm up sets listed.

Military press 2 x 8
dumbbell laterals 2 x 10
single arm delt pulley laterals 1 x 10
rear dumbbell laterals 2 x 10
shrugs 2 x 10

Tricep traditional pushdown 2 x 10
EZ bar lying tricep extensions 2 x 8
Single dumbbell two hand tricep extension 2 x 10 (reversed a Scott curl pad for back support)

Barbell curls 2 x10 (these are beginning to hurt my surgically repaired bicep where it attaches at the shoulder. Going to use the easy curl bar. Less stress to the joint.)
Alternate dumbbell curl 2 x 8
Single arm D handle pulley curls 2 x 12

forearm wrist curls 2 x 20
reverse wrist extensions 2 x 15

Incline sit ups 1 x 32
Feet up weighted crunches 1 x 35
Pulley crunches 2 x 32

Ivanko gripper 2 x 20 ( set the springs so hard I couldn't touch the bar toward the end)

Turned off the radio, got my water and journal heading up the stairs. I turned around and went down for a final burn out of pushups. Only got 32 good ones. Triceps were burned out but it felt good to get that final pump.

Welcome back Donny. I missed your posts.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on March 09, 2015, 04:32:24 PM
well i hope we are all feeling refreshed now. Was running earlier, showered, good meal. Thank you for the support guys and Karen.  ;)
Good to see you back Donny.  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 09, 2015, 07:15:13 PM
chest

inc press ,,135/185/185/175/135..12/10/9/10/12..switched it up pyramid wise
dec press x3
fdb press turn palms facing in at top 60/65/65..10/10/10
cable crossovers x3  15 rep sets
dips x2x20

tris supersetting

skull crushers premade bar with pushdowns x3
close grip bench with reverse pushdowns x3

finish across body db tri extensions lying down x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 10, 2015, 05:52:02 AM
Legs Today..

Leg extensions SS with Front squats 4 sets
seated leg press 4 sets

Leg curls SS with stiff legged Deadlifts 4 sets
45 Degree Hyper bench 3 sets
Seated calf raise 5 sets

No cardio today. threw in some Hypers for a change. Felt my Hammies on these too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 10, 2015, 06:25:50 AM
Legs Today..

Leg extensions SS with Front squats 4 sets
seated leg press 4 sets

Leg curls SS with stiff legged Deadlifts 4 sets
45 Degree Hyper bench 3 sets
Seated calf raise 5 sets

No cardio today. threw in some Hypers for a change. Felt my Hammies on these too.
front squats nice..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 10, 2015, 08:10:48 AM
front squats nice..
yeah,,, like them with leg extensions.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on March 10, 2015, 09:30:45 AM
yeah,,, like them with leg extensions.
How heavy?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 10, 2015, 05:38:12 PM
Did the laziest cardio today but it was so enjoyable. I walked 3 miles in a park. Some really nice chicks walking too. Just as I finished 7 girls running in pack went by me. Suddenly I felt guilty for not running today but it was great blasting music walking fast. I'll run next cardio day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 10, 2015, 05:58:49 PM
How heavy?

How relevant?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on March 10, 2015, 06:23:40 PM
How relevant?
I meant the front squats.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 10, 2015, 09:38:32 PM
Did the laziest cardio today but it was so enjoyable. I walked 3 miles in a park. Some really nice chicks walking too. Just as I finished 7 girls running in pack went by me. Suddenly I felt guilty for not running today but it was great blasting music walking fast. I'll run next cardio day.

Now this is really something I can identify with. I love a walk in the park. Never tried doing it to music yet. Sounds like a plan. There are some really incredible parks in and around Portland, OR. There is everything from nature trails to rose gardens.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 11, 2015, 03:21:01 AM
How heavy?
  80kg (176lbs). was enough weight for me doing a SS with leg extensions first, pre exhaust style. last set was less 75kg (165). Weight was not important to me but Deep squats and getting high reps, 15+. I prefer Higher reps on front squats.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 11, 2015, 03:25:40 AM
Now this is really something I can identify with. I love a walk in the park. Never tried doing it to music yet. Sounds like a plan. There are some really incredible parks in and around Portland, OR. There is everything from nature trails to rose gardens.
nothing wrong with walking. You can gather your thoughts and see some intresting things along the way.  Will train back tonight..

Front chins (medium grip) 4 sets
Close grip pulldowns 3-4 sets
BB rows 4 sets
EZ Bar pullover 3-4 sets

cardio i will do before weight training as later no time. Run through the woods for about 45 mins at a good clip. Will throw in some abs after my run.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 11, 2015, 05:54:29 AM
I meant the front squats.

It's only stimulation that matters in bbing, and weight is just one of the variables. One variable says nothing about the quality.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 11, 2015, 05:56:10 AM
It's only stimulation that matters in bbing, and weight is just one of the variables. One variable says nothing about the quality.
WELL PUT...I'M LUCKY THE STRENGHT AND SIZE ARE EQUAL..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 11, 2015, 06:07:32 AM
It's only stimulation that matters in bbing, and weight is just one of the variables. One variable says nothing about the quality.
yep... spot on... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on March 11, 2015, 07:22:11 AM
  80kg (176lbs). was enough weight for me doing a SS with leg extensions first, pre exhaust style. last set was less 75kg (165). Weight was not important to me but Deep squats and getting high reps, 15+. I prefer Higher reps on front squats.
I typically stay lighter on front squats, I seem to have developed a lump on my left clavicle from doing them. :-\


It's only stimulation that matters in bbing, and weight is just one of the variables. One variable says nothing about the quality.
Not sure what that has to do with anything, but OK....

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 11, 2015, 07:49:12 AM
The problem I have when a bodybuilder says a weight they use is that there is so many variables. Here are a few.

1. machine to machine. We all know one machine say a leg extension we can put the pin in the 200lbs slot and another manufacturer's machine 120 lbs is nearly impossible. This goes for all machines. My home lat pull unit uses very little weight due to friction and the pulley set up than most commercial machines.

2. Range of motion. Small ego delusional guys love to short stroke a movement to handle a heavier weight. You can have three guys do a press behind the neck. The first will stop when his upper arms are parallel to the ground effectively doing a half rep. You can handle some serious weigh with this short range of motion. The second guy will do a 3/4 rep range of motion. The third guy will bring the bar to touch his traps and push out from there. From the point of science using physics the full range of motion guy is doing the most amount of work therefore taxing his muscles the hardest. You will see short range of motion "heroes" on so many exercises from squats, leg press, and any type of pressing.

3. Time between sets. How can you compare weight used when you don't know the rest period between sets? One guy can claim big numbers and he is resting 2 plus minutes between sets. Another guy you might want to laugh at his weight numbers but you couldn't keep up because he uses 30 to 20 seconds between sets. I heard this about Chris Dickerson. Everyone said he used light weights until they tried to keep up with him in his prime.

4. Tempo:  How fast is the concentric and eccentric rep speed?  One guy using a very slow rep cadence using 70lbs in a curl might be working harder than the guy swinging up 125lbs and dropping the weight on the negative.  

There are other variables but I'm tired of typing. In my view if you want to prove you're strong and have power then lets see who can pick up that barbell on the floor and put it over head.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on March 11, 2015, 09:39:43 AM
Absolutely. But we're not talking strength, Donny said he does about 15 reps. Not sure of his range of motion but I prefer ATG, front or rear squats.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 11, 2015, 07:14:55 PM
delts/bi's @home..

db press..45/50/60/60-50 drop

trisets side/front rear,,,20lbs x3..30's x1 with some gusto

cable uprights x4

bertil raises x3

bi's
cable straight bar curls x3
inc db curls x3
seated cable stretch curls x3
hammer across body curls x2
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 11, 2015, 07:24:57 PM
Absolutely. But we're not talking strength, Donny said he does about 15 reps. Not sure of his range of motion but I prefer ATG, front or rear squats.

The range of motion debate is a classic and endless one, so why start another one ???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on March 11, 2015, 07:41:25 PM
The range of motion debate is a classic and endless one, so why start another one ???
Because it's a discussion board?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 11, 2015, 10:07:22 PM
The range of motion debate is a classic and endless one, so why start another one ???

I'll bite. I feel better when I do full range exercises. Too heavy resistance, which for me sometimes restricts my range of motion, just doesn't make me feel right or good. But then for me, it is about exercise for health and not exercise just to get big. I did the getbig thing and I got over it....finally.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 12, 2015, 02:37:39 AM
Because it's a discussion board?

OK, but what would you like to add to this debate what hasn't been said a million times, since this isn't a parrot board?


(Oh well... :D )

I'll bite. I feel better when I do full range exercises. Too heavy resistance, which for me sometimes restricts my range of motion, just doesn't make me feel right or good. But then for me, it is about exercise for health and not exercise just to get big. I did the getbig thing and I got over it....finally.

While getting older, taking care of your health in general, and your joints specifically, becomes more and more relevant, at least in a mature/responsible mind.
During workouts it's my goal to keep tension on the muscle without harming the joints. Sometimes this means a full ROM, like back work, but often almost full ROMs like not locking out during press movements. I think we should go by feel -mentally & physically-  without thinking there's only right way, that's too dogmatic.


Damn, now I bit as well but I'll leave it here ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 12, 2015, 03:41:58 AM
you know i was pissed off yesterday what i saw where i run. where i run itīs a beautiful forest area and i see a lot of wild life in there when i run through the forest. They have started to rip trees down in one area. looks like they will build something.. makes me sad. Anyway... i will do Delts later.

Steve Tri set, Front raises
                   Side raises
                   Rear delt machine

                   Military press SS with BB upright rows.
Abs: full incline sit ups twisting 3x20-30. 3-4 sets for my shoulder exercises.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 12, 2015, 04:48:27 AM
you know i was pissed off yesterday what i saw where i run. where i run itīs a beautiful forest area and i see a lot of wild life in there when i run through the forest. They have started to rip trees down in one area. looks like they will build something.. makes me sad. Anyway... i will do Delts later.

Steve Tri set, Front raises
                   Side raises
                   Rear delt machine

                   Military press SS with BB upright rows.
Abs: full incline sit ups twisting 3x20-30. 3-4 sets for my shoulder exercises.

The same is going on in my district. They demolish a large school building, which is a good thing, since that building was a butt ugly one, built in the late 7ties/early 8ties, but a lot of huge trees as well. Sure, they will plant (small) trees as well in that future district, but they produce much less oxygen.
Today delt day as well, together with a huge diesel who loves to train hard :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 12, 2015, 05:09:56 AM
rom has many variables...

are you long limbed or short limbed ...that has a lot to do with it,,

say on flyes I do stretch portion but when I come up into finish I stop at least 1 inch or so never touching db's keeping tension at that point and then down to next rep,,,

on peck deck I close fully and squeeze tho...

tricep pushdowns somedays I do' choppy' reps 'WITH HEAVIER WEIGHT'

rope version upper or regular I SQUEEZE AND PULL ROPE FULLY AND EXTEND..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 12, 2015, 05:44:32 AM
I don't know why range of motion is something to be debated. Math is math. Doing a fuller range of motion is doing more work according to the irrefutable laws of physics. I do understand not locking out in some exercises to keep the tension on the muscle.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 12, 2015, 05:57:49 AM
I don't know why range of motion is something to be debated. Math is math. Doing a fuller range of motion is doing more work according to the irrefutable laws of physics. I do understand not locking out in some exercises to keep the tension on the muscle.
EXACTLY...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 12, 2015, 06:34:18 AM
I don't know why range of motion is something to be debated. Math is math. Doing a fuller range of motion is doing more work according to the irrefutable laws of physics. I do understand not locking out in some exercises to keep the tension on the muscle.
AMEN Brother... I like to do partial reps or Burns on seated calf raises when i canīt do a full rep or crunching my abs.. small movements at the end of a set(but this is another thing). I agree with Rich though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 12, 2015, 06:36:24 AM
AMEN Brother... I like to do partial reps or Burns on seated calf raises when i canīt do a full rep or crunching my abs.. small movements at the end of a set(but this is another thing). I agree with Rich though.
YES those little extras 'exhaust'burn'or pump that last little out of a set...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 12, 2015, 06:45:23 AM
YES those little extras 'exhaust'burn'or pump that last little out of a set...
Larry scott...style... ;D  crunching to failure with partial reps even after i stopped my abs were  twitching..like i was wearing one of those electro pads you can buy or at least were in vogue some years back... ;D Remember i got a set of them from the hospital in 1999 after a knee op to use at home. Used them a couple of times and binned them. Riding my mountain bike was much better. Canīt beat a full range of motion like cycling. Lying on the couch my leg twitching with these pads was no use.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 12, 2015, 07:25:15 AM
Larry scott...style... ;D  crunching to failure with partial reps even after i stopped my abs were  twitching..like i was wearing one of those electro pads you can buy or at least were in vogue some years back... ;D Remember i got a set of them from the hospital in 1999 after a knee op to use at home. Used them a couple of times and binned them. Riding my mountain bike was much better. Canīt beat a full range of motion like cycling. Lying on the couch my leg twitching with these pads was no use.
FRANKENSTEIN KNEE  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 12, 2015, 07:27:18 AM
FRANKENSTEIN KNEE  :D
You can talk QUAD....ZILLA... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on March 12, 2015, 08:03:35 AM
I don't know why range of motion is something to be debated. Math is math. Doing a fuller range of motion is doing more work according to the irrefutable laws of physics. I do understand not locking out in some exercises to keep the tension on the muscle.
Agree. But apparently some people do debate this topic.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 12, 2015, 08:59:58 AM
training is like sex..you gotta mix it up.  ;)  Sometimes i go in the Gym and do a totally diffrent workout to what i planned. Still hitting the muscle(s) in question but maybe with machines,more reps,lower reps.. etc..  i go a lot by feel. i think Oldtimer Rich called it "freewheeling"? not used to all your US terminology.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 12, 2015, 01:06:15 PM
The same is going on in my district. They demolish a large school building, which is a good thing, since that building was a butt ugly one, built in the late 7ties/early 8ties, but a lot of huge trees as well. Sure, they will plant (small) trees as well in that future district, but they produce much less oxygen.
Today delt day as well, together with a huge diesel who loves to train hard :)

West Linn is a "tree city" because most of it is like a forest. It is really hard to take out trees here. You have to get approval from the city. Before they rule on it, your neighbors are notified so they have the opportunity to object.

When we bought our home here, if you looked at the aerial on Google Earth, you could not see the house because all of it was covered by the canopy of trees. Over the years, we've selectively taken out trees most likely to fall or drop limbs on the house. We've had the remaining trees pruned on a regular basis by a certified arborist. All of the remaining trees are very healthy. Some are huge. We've also replaced the trees we removed with more suitable ones. For example, we planted three Pacific Sunset Maples in the parking strip to replace two Hawthorn trees which were more like overgrown shrubs that had these really long thorns. It is much safer for people using the sidewalk out front.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 12, 2015, 01:11:28 PM
rom has many variables...

are you long limbed or short limbed ...that has a lot to do with it,,

say on flyes I do stretch portion but when I come up into finish I stop at least 1 inch or so never touching db's keeping tension at that point and then down to next rep,,,

on peck deck I close fully and squeeze tho...

tricep pushdowns somedays I do' choppy' reps 'WITH HEAVIER WEIGHT'

rope version upper or regular I SQUEEZE AND PULL ROPE FULLY AND EXTEND..

I am both long limbed and short limbed. My arms are very long and my legs are relatively short. Weird huh? I know exactly what you mean about how this affects both strength and the range of motion. Bench presses have always been much harder for me to do using any appreciable resistance then squats or leg presses. For me, adjusting the resistance helps preserve doing full range movements which I prefer to partial ones.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 12, 2015, 01:16:47 PM
FRANKENSTEIN KNEE  :D

I have a "Tens" which I started using for my back when I was doing physical therapy. A Tens is the same principal as the electro-pads you mentioned which were around for years. I remember my doctor telling me to get one to help me develop muscles. Although I did buy one, it seemed more of a novelty than anything worth while. That machine sat in the closet until I eventually threw it out. A Tens is battery operated and very small by comparison to those old machines.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 12, 2015, 04:12:56 PM
I've been retired for 3 years. Thought I would have to sell my house because of the decrease in income  but it looks like I just got a job. Nothing big but it will plug the gap in the missing income I lost when I retired. This job combined with my pension should put me close to what I was making when I was working. Not an ideal job but everyone has to do what you have to do to survive. I wish I could move to a less expensive state but I have to stay close to my kids. My house in many other states could be had for much less with much lower real estate taxes.

This is the training related part. I will work 4 ten and a half hour days with three days off. It's one hour from the house. Just thinking how I will get my training time in? I've done it before working strange hours but now I'm older. Thinking about doing two whole body routines a week. Once on a work day and once on an off day. The rest will be early cardio prior to work. I guess I have to have some kind of light to run. Any suggestions on training?  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 12, 2015, 05:51:27 PM
West Linn is a "tree city" because most of it is like a forest. It is really hard to take out trees here. You have to get approval from the city. Before they rule on it, your neighbors are notified so they have the opportunity to object.

When we bought our home here, if you looked at the aerial on Google Earth, you could not see the house because all of it was covered by the canopy of trees. Over the years, we've selectively taken out trees most likely to fall or drop limbs on the house. We've had the remaining trees pruned on a regular basis by a certified arborist. All of the remaining trees are very healthy. Some are huge. We've also replaced the trees we removed with more suitable ones. For example, we planted three Pacific Sunset Maples in the parking strip to replace two Hawthorn trees which were more like overgrown shrubs that had these really long thorns. It is much safer for people using the sidewalk out front.

That's how mankind should deal with mother nature; respectfully and with great care..

I believe that we had a law that says that you have to plant a new tree for any tree that has been cut down, but I'm not so sure of that  :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 12, 2015, 08:11:49 PM
back/calves/traps/abs

chins wide x2/inner grip x2

t bar underhanded grip 2 plates/2 and 25/3/3 and 25 ..12/10/10/8

behind neck pulldowns x3

cable rows lower small bar 180/195/210

cable seated 'rope'pulls high'upper rear trap/back x3

weighted hypers x3


traps 4 sets shrugs on hammer laydown press machine

calves
3 x drops sets 10 200/180/160/140

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 12, 2015, 09:40:13 PM
I've been retired for 3 years. Thought I would have to sell my house because of the decrease in income  but it looks like I just got a job. Nothing big but it will plug the gap in the missing income I lost when I retired. This job combined with my pension should put me close to what I was making when I was working. Not an ideal job but everyone has to do what you have to do to survive. I wish I could move to a less expensive state but I have to stay close to my kids. My house in many other states could be had for much less with much lower real estate taxes.

This is the training related part. I will work 4 ten and a half hour days with three days off. It's one hour from the house. Just thinking how I will get my training time in? I've done it before working strange hours but now I'm older. Thinking about doing two whole body routines a week. Once on a work day and once on an off day. The rest will be early cardio prior to work. I guess I have to have some kind of light to run. Any suggestions on training?  

You are working more that 40 hours? I feel bad for you. While it's great you found work if that's what it takes to keep the roof over your head, it's a shame that you have to work so many hours. It doesn't seem like much of a retirement.

Reading your post made me realize how lucky I am. I actually make more in retirement income then I did when I worked. As long as we don't have runaway inflation, my wife and I will be fine. It also helps that we owe almost nothing on our home. I pay extra money on the mortgage each month. We couldn't rent a single apartment around here for the amount of our mortgage payment.

Our daughter and family living here and paying us a decent rent helps too. Not only that they do their share of the household chores and maintenance. It helps them out too. Rents in Portland and the surrounding areas are out of sight. I read in the paper that for a single person to afford one bedroom apartment in Portland, they'd need to make  $31. an hour. I assume this means to cover all their expenses.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 13, 2015, 05:12:07 AM
Sounds rough Rich. the Good thing is you have your own gym at home so you can spare a lot of time there, no driving to a Gym. Me i would do a short workout every Day or a 5 day split just 1 muscle group a day. or an upper/lower split, alternating over 3 days(cardio on off days). Full body is draining when you are tired much easier to do a short 1 muscle workout. I remember doing a lot of Nights and 12 hour shifts. My cardio was basically cycling to work on my mountain bike and a run at the weekend with a mate. Workouts in my Home Gym were fairly short.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 13, 2015, 07:17:49 AM
I think I made a job announcement too soon. Talked to a guy who worked for this company who had nothing but negative things to say about the working environment and especially the kid managers (30 somethings) that get bonuses for cracking the whip to increase productivity. I have always worked for government in a military environment. This job doesn't sound like something I want to be a part of.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 13, 2015, 08:48:41 AM
I think I made a job announcement too soon. Talked to a guy who worked for this company who had nothing but negative things to say about the working environment and especially the kid managers (30 somethings) that get bonuses for cracking the whip to increase productivity. I have always worked for government in a military environment. This job doesn't sound like something I want to be a part of.
sounds like you are doing the right thing... i thought you wanted to do the trainer thing?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 13, 2015, 09:06:02 AM
so i will hit arms later..

BB curls
Incline curls
concentration curls(cable)

Lying ez bar extensions
incline Bench Ez bar Extensions
One arm cable reverse grip pressdown

3 sets per ex..  will do some ab and calf work too. The one arm reverse grip pressdowns really finish off my tris.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 14, 2015, 05:36:44 PM
leg day brutal supersets ,,,in and out 1 hr..

hack squats with lying sled press...2/3/4/5 plates and 140/180/200/200...sick pump 10 reps per each

leg extensions with stair lunges ..205/220/ and lunges 45 plate each hand..

finished with 2 heavier sets extensions 235/250 x12 per set ..

hams
sldl 135/185/205 and lying leg curls 140/145/155

seated leg curls 180/195

calves seated calf raise x6 performed with fullreps for 10 then 5 reps flat foot to top/then 5 reps bottom stretch to flat portion,,felt great

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 14, 2015, 09:02:18 PM
Brutal leg workout = awesome legs, apparently.

Still doing 4 X 25 body weight squats and 4 X 15 straight legged toe touches, three times a week here. My legs don't look like yours do, obviously.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on March 15, 2015, 11:22:48 AM
Shoulders and arms this morning.

Warmed up with DB laterals and then did one working set followed by one set of DB presses.

Warmed up with an empty bar weighing maybe ten pounds (Dammit!) and then did one working set of 15 reps on BB curls.  The bar is a 2" diameter one I sometimes use.

Tricep pushdowns for warm up and then a single set of bodyweight dips for 21 reps (failure).  Wrist roller curls in both directions until failure and I am finished for the day.

I will train back and chest tomorrow morning but in the afternoon and have PT and have been told it is going to hurt so bad I will probably not want to do anything but whine like the pussbag I  truly am.  Oh joy!

Keep up the good work, gents!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 16, 2015, 07:06:45 AM
will do chest later.

Parallel Bar dips 3-4xmax (about time i did some Dips)
Machine flys 3-4 sets
Incline Barbell Press 3-4 sets
Incline DB Flys 3-4 sets

Cardio i will go for a run afterwards on the streets and do some abs at home. sometimes i will change the order of exercise in the gym if itīs busy or just for a change. Probably hit upper chest first.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 16, 2015, 08:01:32 PM
chest

decline press x4
inc dbell,,65/70/75/60..10/10/7/10
fdb twist palms facing each other at to 65/75/75
cable crossovers x3
dips x2x20

tris
fr pushdowns x4 130-160
superset skull crushers into close press together x3
lying cross body db extensions 20lb x3
reverse pulldowns x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 17, 2015, 07:49:38 AM
I got roped into doing a 5K race with some friends in May. The only physical activity these guys do is running and they are really into the sport.  No way I could keep up with them but I don't want to be a slug so here I am running like a lunatic again. I lose muscle quick when the miles pile up but I also get really lean which is a good thing. I find it impossible to do a lot of hard core cardio and handle heavy weights.  Last time I was on a cardio kick I was trying to do deadlift 315lbs when I finished a back workout. It felt like I was lifting up a car when normally it doesn't feel really heavy till 405lbs for me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 17, 2015, 08:06:23 AM
I got roped into doing a 5K race with some friends in May. The only physical activity these guys do is running and they are really into the sport.  No way I could keep up with them but I don't want to be a slug so here I am running like a lunatic again. I lose muscle quick when the miles pile up but I also get really lean which is a good thing. I find it impossible to do a lot of hard core cardio and handle heavy weights.  Last time I was on a cardio kick I was trying to do deadlift 315lbs when I finished a back workout. It felt like I was lifting up a car when normally it doesn't feel really heavy till 405lbs for me.
at least you try other things even if its once in a while...I love training but you know it becomes stale at times and you have to try to other ways to get a good workout in without same ol same ol...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 17, 2015, 08:49:10 AM
at least you try other things even if its once in a while...I love training but you know it becomes stale at times and you have to try to other ways to get a good workout in without same ol same ol...
I agree itīs good to do other things too. Lifting weights is fine but as you wrote you get stale. So Today i did some legs.

Leg extensions SS with Front squats
Seated Leg press
Seated leg curls SS Stiff Deadlifts
Standing calf raises Smith machine

Crunches SS Bench leg raises.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 17, 2015, 08:54:23 AM
I agree itīs good to do other things too. Lifting weights is fine but as you wrote you get stale. So Today i did some legs.

Leg extensions SS with Front squats
Seated Leg press
Seated leg curls SS Stiff Deadlifts
Standing calf raises Smith machine

Crunches SS Bench leg raises.
I used to use wood block to do those smith calf raises,,they were good...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 17, 2015, 08:56:15 AM
I used to use wood block to do those smith calf raises,,they were good...
I know it sounds a bit Gay but as i write before i use one of these Reebok step boards... ;D hey man..if it works it works...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 17, 2015, 08:57:24 AM
I know it sounds a bit Gay but as i write before i use one of these Reebok step boards... ;D hey man..if it works it works...
i was going to write that lol,,,I've used them too,,thought about the 'gay'thing too lol....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 17, 2015, 09:12:20 AM
i was going to write that lol,,,I've used them too,,thought about the 'gay'thing too lol....
I actually use a Reebok board too  when training people if their legs are too short for a machine. Feet on the Board and they sit in a good position. Remember most people are not Bodybuilders or powerlifters but training for other reasons. A lot of people are in the Gym because of bad backs, necks..etc. Sitting at a Desk all Day. Infact the Lat machine is perfect for also stretching the shoulders and back holding the upper stretched position. I was shown this by a Physiotherapist in a Gym i worked in, she was really good with Back problems. Had a lot of fun and learned a lot from her. Good Times...and no i never "Boned" her  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 17, 2015, 11:50:13 AM
Steve.... I got the chicken... I'm stuffed.... Hihi.... :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 17, 2015, 11:53:51 AM
Steve.... I got the chicken... I'm stuffed.... Hihi.... :P
LOL...BRANCH OVEN ROASTER SPECIAL...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 18, 2015, 03:49:43 AM
It really is a Delightful Day here in Celle.. the sun is shining and i am getting a bit of sun ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 18, 2015, 02:49:19 PM
It really is a Delightful Day here in Celle.. the sun is shining and i am getting a bit of sun ;D

Same in West Linn.

We've been having unseasonably nice weather this year with very little rain. When we get a rainstorm it maybe lasts a day and then it's back to sunshine. I could really get used to this.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 18, 2015, 07:33:53 PM
back/traps/abs

front pulldowns x4 145/165/180/180
tbar row chest pad supported 2 plates/2.5 /2 plates and 35
rope standing pulls to waist x3
bar pullovers premade bar 70/80/80
seated cable hi rope pulls for upper back /rhomboids lol.
 
weighted hypers x3

traps
shrugs 135/225/275/315
side cable shrugs x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 19, 2015, 01:45:09 AM
I did back last night too Steve. It was later than normal after work.

Medium grip chins 4 sets
Close grip pulldowns 4 sets
Seated cable rows using a wide grip on a straight bar 4 sets
One arm DB rows 4 sets

I finished off with 2 high rep sets of Stiff Arm Lat pulldowns... I was working out with a guy in the Gym who likes these so i thought why not.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 19, 2015, 01:54:45 AM
Here is a good lat workout from V Gironda...

Choose at least 3 diffrent exercises pulling from diffrent angles...
the long fibres of the Lattisimus are worked well with wide grip lat pulldowns..to the chest.
For the Teres major area perform seated pulley rows, pulling the hands into the waist.
For the Belly of the Lats try 45 degree lat pulldowns to the chest. Use a thumbless grip on these.

If your lats still fail to respond hold the contracted position for 6 seconds.. This maximizes the nerve impulses and encourages muscle stimulation.  4x8 on each exercise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 19, 2015, 04:54:41 AM
Here is a good lat workout from V Gironda...

Choose at least 3 diffrent exercises pulling from diffrent angles...
the long fibres of the Lattisimus are worked well with wide grip lat pulldowns..to the chest.
For the Teres major area perform seated pulley rows, pulling the hands into the waist.
For the Belly of the Lats try 45 degree lat pulldowns to the chest. Use a thumbless grip on these.

If your lats still fail to respond hold the contracted position for 6 seconds.. This maximizes the nerve impulses and encourages muscle stimulation.  4x8 on each exercise.
8)...I did a switch few wks ago traps with back and bi's switched to delt day,,,tonight will be delt/bi/forarms..simple,,,i do allot of back work,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 19, 2015, 05:02:27 AM
8)...I did a switch few wks ago traps with back and bi's switched to delt day,,,tonight will be delt/bi/forarms..simple,,,i do allot of back work,,,
Do you find working Delts hinders your Bicep work? I am going on the assumption you train Delts first. This i hear from a lot from people. I always liked training Delts with arms. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 19, 2015, 05:12:10 AM
Tonight i will hit Delts too. some abs and calfs, cardio. Delts i can blast in a fairly short fast workout. I will concentrate more on side and rear delts. Maybe throw in one of your favourites the Bertil Fox style side raises.. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 19, 2015, 05:27:29 AM
Do you find working Delts hinders your Bicep work? I am going on the assumption you train Delts first. This i hear from a lot from people. I always liked training Delts with arms. 
SO FAR I FELT BACK/BI WAS MORE HINDERANCE FOR BI'S,,BACK BEAT THEM UP ALREADY..YEAH I DO DELTS 1ST ,LIKE YOU DELTS IS FAST /PUMP PACED WORKOUT..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 19, 2015, 06:34:53 AM
SO FAR I FELT BACK/BI WAS MORE HINDERANCE FOR BI'S,,BACK BEAT THEM UP ALREADY..YEAH I DO DELTS 1ST ,LIKE YOU DELTS IS FAST /PUMP PACED WORKOUT..
I know what you are saying. 5 Day split would be awsome for you. Really blast your arms on their own without worrying about other muscle groups. I know we wrote about this before but maybe you could do your 5th Day at home. Arms donīt need any fancy machines. I donīt buy the idea that you donīt need direct arm training, at least not for a Bodybuilder. Even Bill Pearl once told me i should do preacher curls if doing chins for biceps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 19, 2015, 08:11:21 AM
I know what you are saying. 5 Day split would be awsome for you. Really blast your arms on their own without worrying about other muscle groups. I know we wrote about this before but maybe you could do your 5th Day at home. Arms donīt need any fancy machines. I donīt buy the idea that you donīt need direct arm training, at least not for a Bodybuilder. Even Bill Pearl once told me i should do preacher curls if doing chins for biceps.
AGREE 100PCT,,,I CAN DO TRIS WITH CHEST AS USUAL AND SAT BLAST AGAIN WITH BI'S,,ITS NOT LIKE I HAVE OVERPOWERING ARMS LOL,,,ON MY 5TH HOME DAY WHEN I CAN.. I DO EXTRA ARM WORK...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 19, 2015, 09:03:58 AM
AGREE 100PCT,,,I CAN DO TRIS WITH CHEST AS USUAL AND SAT BLAST AGAIN WITH BI'S,,ITS NOT LIKE I HAVE OVERPOWERING ARMS LOL,,,ON MY 5TH HOME DAY WHEN I CAN.. I DO EXTRA ARM WORK...
had people on here laugh about this but you have to have strong arms to chin well. You do concentrated Bicep work and tricep work.. your Chins and Dips will improve. like it or not the smaller muscles need to help in these exercises. Direct arm training is necessary. Do heavy close grip Benches on your arm Day.. it will help on your chest Day, like dips. just my opinion.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 19, 2015, 09:09:32 AM
had people on here laugh about this but you have to have strong arms to chin well. You do concentrated Bicep work and tricep work.. your Chins and Dips will improve. like it or not the smaller muscles need to help in these exercises. Direct arm training is necessary. Do heavy close grip Benches on your arm Day.. it will help on your chest Day, like dips. just my opinion.
I LOVE CLOSE GRIP DO THEM ALL THE TIME,I DO THEM AFTER CHEST THO AND IM STILL PRETTY STRONG ON THEM...I BLAST MY ARMS PRETTY GOOD ON THERE SET DAYS ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 19, 2015, 09:16:53 AM
I LOVE CLOSE GRIP DO THEM ALL THE TIME,I DO THEM AFTER CHEST THO AND IM STILL PRETTY STRONG ON THEM...I BLAST MY ARMS PRETTY GOOD ON THERE SET DAYS ..
you are just a freak  ;D for me personally, i need to split them up. People can say what they want you have to strengththen the weak link the arms. sure "concentrating" on bringing your scapula back..etc is important to stimulate but still...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 19, 2015, 09:22:47 AM
you are just a freak  ;D for me personally, i need to split them up. People can say what they want you have to strengththen the weak link the arms. sure "concentrating" on bringing your scapula back..etc is important to stimulate but still...
8)...I TRY.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 19, 2015, 09:31:33 AM
8)...I TRY.. ;D
Yeah you are a great Guy.. no BS just reality.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 20, 2015, 06:58:25 PM
delt/bi/forearms...good switch last few weeks,,traps with back as well very sore 2 days later from that too

delts
behind neck press,,x4 last set drop
fr press x3
tri sets x3 20/25's side/fr/rear  sick pump at this point..
standing behind back rear raise x2

bi's ,,,great change from back day real good full pump

curls stahdard bar ,,85/95/105/115..12/10/10/6
inc curls 30/35/40 10/10/10
seated scott curl machine x3
rope cable curls x2 bottom to mid portion

forearms
weighted rope rolls x2 up/down/up
reverse behind back wrist curls x3


side note switched insurance companies they did mimi exam at house,,blood/urine

bp 120/80,,,120/78
5'7 lol
185
pulse 63-66
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 21, 2015, 02:09:04 AM
Arms Yesterday.... did some pre-exhaust

 Machine Preacher curls with close Grip Chinning the Bar 3 sets per ex.
hammer curls for forearms 3 sets

Tricep Pushdowns with Close grip Bench press 3 sets
Machine tricep extensions 3 sets

My favourit is definitely machine preacher curls and then close undergrip chins. used a machine for more strictness. you need a spotter or a rack for the Tricep work.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on March 21, 2015, 07:39:01 AM
Arms Yesterday.... did some pre-exhaust

 Machine Preacher curls with close Grip Chinning the Bar 3 sets per ex.
hammer curls for forearms 3 sets

Tricep Pushdowns with Close grip Bench press 3 sets
Machine tricep extensions 3 sets

My favourit is definitely machine preacher curls and then close undergrip chins. used a machine for more strictness. you need a spotter or a rack for the Tricep work.

Sweet!  I use either the Vertical Machine Bench press for close grips as it has a lever I can push with my good leg for forced reps or if I feel good I use the Smith Machine.

The hardest part about HIT (for me) is the rest periods in between sessions.   I had yesterday off and today as well.  Tomorrow I will do shoulders/arms in my garage gym. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 22, 2015, 02:31:56 AM
Sweet!  I use either the Vertical Machine Bench press for close grips as it has a lever I can push with my good leg for forced reps or if I feel good I use the Smith Machine.

The hardest part about HIT (for me) is the rest periods in between sessions.   I had yesterday off and today as well.  Tomorrow I will do shoulders/arms in my garage gym. 
sounds like you got a good plan going there Scotty. I prefer training more often but moderate intensity but you know i am a Fan of Bill pearl ;) I have to admit i still like watching the old movies with Gordon scott,Steve Reeves. they built magnificent physiques with only Basics and hard work. Today is nice again sun is out.. i think i will go for a cycle today. Nothing hard just cycle around and maybe visit a cafe.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on March 22, 2015, 08:06:06 AM
sounds like you got a good plan going there Scotty. I prefer training more often but moderate intensity but you know i am a Fan of Bill pearl ;) I have to admit i still like watching the old movies with Gordon scott,Steve Reeves. they built magnificent physiques with only Basics and hard work. Today is nice again sun is out.. i think i will go for a cycle today. Nothing hard just cycle around and maybe visit a cafe.
Good morning, Donny!

Yup, Pearl is the Man.  He lives near one of my brothers in Oregon but I've yet to meet him.  My intensity is not nearly as high as it was five or so years back and I recognize the need to balance the levels with reality.  ;D

I can train so hard that I'm sore for a week or more and rest that long between sessions  but I don't think its good for me so I stopped doing that.  I am trying hard to find a happy medium.  I warm up a lot more than some might but I need to, especially shoulders, LOL!  I've come to the realization that I will never have six pack unless I buy one at the store.

I just want to look as good as I can (or better!) and feel good about it. I want the droopy pants yoots to look and think twice about fooking with me.  I want women to get all Duncan-Hines (moist fully good!) when they see me and men half my age and more to wish they looked as good.

I don't want much, do I? 

This is why I train.  That and I was beat up a lot as a kid and that stopped once I started lifting.  Image is not everything but it is something!

 ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 22, 2015, 08:33:33 AM
legs

extensions 1st changed it up,,,warmed lighter weight,,,working sets 205/220/235/250 sets 12

leg press 5 plates 6/7/7.5

squats close stance 225/275/315/365  :)

standing in place 50 lb step lunges x2


hams
sldl db 60/70/80
lying leg curls 140/155/165/170 12/10/10/6

calves standing calf raise
drop sets x3 200/180/160/140 10 reps per drop or close as i could...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 22, 2015, 06:49:06 PM
Good morning, Donny!

Yup, Pearl is the Man.  He lives near one of my brothers in Oregon but I've yet to meet him.  My intensity is not nearly as high as it was five or so years back and I recognize the need to balance the levels with reality.  ;D

I can train so hard that I'm sore for a week or more and rest that long between sessions  but I don't think its good for me so I stopped doing that.  I am trying hard to find a happy medium.  I warm up a lot more than some might but I need to, especially shoulders, LOL!  I've come to the realization that I will never have six pack unless I buy one at the store.

I just want to look as good as I can (or better!) and feel good about it. I want the droopy pants yoots to look and think twice about fooking with me.  I want women to get all Duncan-Hines (moist fully good!) when they see me and men half my age and more to wish they looked as good.

I don't want much, do I? 

This is why I train.  That and I was beat up a lot as a kid and that stopped once I started lifting.  Image is not everything but it is something!

 ;D

I think finding the right training routine for our age and general response/condition is a huge challenge. Imagine how it feels to be 70 years old and realize the next decade (if you survive it) could bring about some huge changes...mostly negative ones. Personally, I am grateful for everyday that I feel good and relatively fit. I try hard not to dwell on all those little aches and pains and to soldier on. So far, so good. I also have to admit that I don't workout with the same intensity that I once did. I am trying desperately to find that balance between accepting what I can do and how hard to push myself. Like you, my goal is to be as healthy as possible for whatever age I achieve.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 23, 2015, 08:18:48 AM
well on my way to work and later working out my chest. I think i might throw this reverse grip Bench press in the equation today... kinder on the shoulders for some and some say a great upper chest builder. Posted a couple of vids from Lee Hayward, seems like a good guy. I agree with him you gotta mix it up a bit and he is a fan of V Gironda too. Likes to experiment.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 23, 2015, 08:39:57 AM
well on my way to work and later working out my chest. I think i might throw this reverse grip Bench press in the equation today... kinder on the shoulders for some and some say a great upper chest builder. Posted a couple of vids from Lee Hayward, seems like a good guy. I agree with him you gotta mix it up a bit and he is a fan of V Gironda too. Likes to experiment.

ITS LIKE GUILOTTINE PRESS I HAVE DONE THEM BUT NEVER STICK TO THEM REGULARLY HMMMMM....LAST FEW THINGS RECENLTY YOU POSTED I HAVE STUCK WITH 'TRISETS DELTS'AND LYING ACROSS BODY DB TRI EXTENSIONS...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 23, 2015, 09:48:55 AM
ITS LIKE GUILOTTINE PRESS I HAVE DONE THEM BUT NEVER STICK TO THEM REGULARLY HMMMMM....LAST FEW THINGS RECENLTY YOU POSTED I HAVE STUCK WITH 'TRISETS DELTS'AND LYING ACROSS BODY DB TRI EXTENSIONS...
not an exercise i have done often and not in the smith machine but he does use a fairly wide grip.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 24, 2015, 08:11:18 AM
well chest last night was...

Incline DB press 3 sets
Incline DB flys 3 sets
Reverse Grip Bench press(not in smith machine) 3 sets
Decline press 3 sets

Seated calf raises 5 sets, Cardio Crosser 45 mins, medium intensity.  I think i prefer standard benches,inclines to reverse Benches...still i feel it in my chest today so they did change the stimulation slightly. Which is the point of the exercise. Did give my upper area more work.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 24, 2015, 05:38:46 PM
chest

inc db press..warmed up..65/70/75..10/8/8
decline press x3
fdb turned palms in facing each other at top 60/60/60,, 10/10/10
peck deck x3 last set drop
dips x2 x20

tris
triset superset,,,extension seated machine/rope downs/reverse grip pushdowns x3x10 per
lying db extensions across body extend out x3

abs

nice pump/sore fatigue day later...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on March 24, 2015, 07:05:32 PM
Back and chest today.  Back first!

Palms in pull ups to failure at 14. 

DB pullovers to failure at 12 reps followed immediately by more pull ups to failure at 5 reps.

Smith Machine Rows to failure at 15 reps followed immediately by palms in narrow grip pulldowns to failure at 12 reps.

Stiff leg DL to failure at 12 reps.

Chest.

Pre-exhaust movement on machine flyes to failure at 6 reps followed right away with Smith Machine Incline Bench (30 degrees) to failure at 12 reps with a four count up an down.  Then rest pause with the same weight for 5 more reps with a 5 count for the rest in between.

Next up, pre-exhaust with machine flyes to failure in a drop set until I could get at least 5 reps.   First set 1 rep, next 2 and the final set was for 6 whereupon I went right to a machine bench to failure at 6 reps.

Machine sit ups to 40 reps where I cramped up.

That's all folks!   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 24, 2015, 10:57:47 PM
So tonight my wife needed to elevate one foot because she has a lesion on her heal. Because she didn't like sitting in a recliner, I gave her's to my sister. Long story short, there was an ottoman in front of her chair. She couldn't make it back to the chair so she ended up sitting on the ottoman. I asked her if she fell and she insisted she did not. I let her sit there for about 15 or 20 minutes knowing that there was no way she could get upright from that low a spot. Finally she condescended and I lifted her upright until she got her balance.

After this little episode, I proceeded to do 4 sets of 25 ass to the floor squats, 4 sets of 25 leg raises and 4 sets of 17 straight legged toe touches. Yup, I have still not made it to the gym. Shoot me! I am doing what I can manage at home. I figure if I can keep my legs and hips strong, I can rescue my wife from whatever difficulty she gets into. So far so good.

Life is grand, isn't it?

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 25, 2015, 04:26:21 AM
So tonight my wife needed to elevate one foot because she has a lesion on her heal. Because she didn't like sitting in a recliner, I gave her's to my sister. Long story short, there was an ottoman in front of her chair. She couldn't make it back to the chair so she ended up sitting on the ottoman. I asked her if she fell and she insisted she did not. I let her sit there for about 15 or 20 minutes knowing that there was no way she could get upright from that low a spot. Finally she condescended and I lifted her upright until she got her balance.

After this little episode, I proceeded to do 4 sets of 25 ass to the floor squats, 4 sets of 25 leg raises and 4 sets of 17 straight legged toe touches. Yup, I have still not made it to the gym. Shoot me! I am doing what I can manage at home. I figure if I can keep my legs and hips strong, I can rescue my wife from whatever difficulty she gets into. So far so good.

Life is grand, isn't it?


Say hello from me to your good wife Jay...you are a good man.  So many older people live alone have no Family or their kids live too far away and maybe are too wrapped up in their own lives. Your wife is lucky to have Family around her. On the training, why not get a set of Dumbbells with some extra plates. Dumbell squats,lunges,step ups,stiff deads, calf raises.... can even bench,flys on floor and with good old push ups a good workout. good thing is they donīt take much space.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 25, 2015, 04:40:59 AM
leg workout was..

Leg extensions SS Barbell Hack squats (donīt have a hack machine)
Leg press

Seated leg curls SS Stiff legged Deads

Crunches on mat SS lying leg raises.

no cardio... Not done Barbell Hacks in a long time. I got asked by a couple of young guys what i was doing.. ;D Itīs amazing how many young guys now have never seen these old school exercises. bet if i did Jefferson lifts they would really be confused. 4 sets on the leg exercises and 3 on the abs. The SS of leg ext and Hacks really blasts your Quads big time and you donīt need big weights.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 25, 2015, 04:50:43 AM
leg workout was..

Leg extensions SS Barbell Hack squats (donīt have a hack machine)
Leg press

Seated leg curls SS Stiff legged Deads

Crunches on mat SS lying leg raises.

no cardio... Not done Barbell Hacks in a long time. I got asked by a couple of young guys what i was doing.. ;D Itīs amazing how many young guys now have never seen these old school exercises. bet if i did Jefferson lifts they would really be confused. 4 sets on the leg exercises and 3 on the abs. The SS of leg ext and Hacks really blasts your Quads big time and you donīt need big weights.
good push...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 25, 2015, 05:03:36 AM
good push...
Barbell Hacks i like. wish we had a machine. Not a big Gym so just have the Basics. One of the best workouts at Home with a Barbell was Squats,Front squats,Barbell Hacks. Just a Barbell workout. Steve Reeves style..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 25, 2015, 11:17:19 AM
Say hello from me to your good wife Jay...you are a good man.  So many older people live alone have no Family or their kids live too far away and maybe are too wrapped up in their own lives. Your wife is lucky to have Family around her. On the training, why not get a set of Dumbbells with some extra plates. Dumbell squats,lunges,step ups,stiff deads, calf raises.... can even bench,flys on floor and with good old push ups a good workout. good thing is they donīt take much space.

Great idea. Actually, I could start by using my grandson's dumbells which are in the garage along with his boxing set-up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 25, 2015, 11:39:26 AM
Great idea. Actually, I could start by using my grandson's dumbells which are in the garage along with his boxing set-up.
Jay get back to basics...i love Dumbbells  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 25, 2015, 07:51:24 PM
back

chins wide x2x12,inner x2x12
hammer reverse grip pulldown machine x3 45 and 25 per side/2 plates/same added extra 10 per side
standing tbar row inner grip x3 ..2plates and 25 /3/3 and 25
cable low cable pully row single handle x3'switched it up'from usual small bar
cable seated hi rope pulls x3 'upper back'rhomboid/rear trap

weighted hypersx3

traps shrugs 225/275/315
reverse shrug 225/275/275

calves standing calves 2 set drops 200/180 10x10...220/180 x3 10x10

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 26, 2015, 05:20:00 AM
Shoulders today...

Tri set..
Front raises, side raises,rear delt raises 4 sets
Barbell military press 4 sets
Close grip BB upright rows 4 sets

seated calf raises 5 sets. Cardio 15 mins crosser,15 mins bike,10 mins rowing machine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 26, 2015, 07:53:47 PM
delt/bi/forearms

behind neck press..x3
fr press x2..135/145
trisets x3,,20/25/25 dbelss side/fr/rear,,killer...
cable uprights x3
bertil raise x2x12/10

bis
curls long bar...65x12..85x10..105x 8..drop finish..105x8/85x8/65x8/bar x10
inc curls 30/35/35
seated scott curl machine x3

forearms weighted rope rolls x2 up /down 3 times per
reverse cable behind back wrist curls x3..

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 27, 2015, 02:55:53 AM
delt/bi/forearms

behind neck press..x3
fr press x2..135/145
trisets x3,,20/25/25 dbelss side/fr/rear,,killer...
cable uprights x3
bertil raise x2x12/10

bis
curls long bar...65x12..85x10..105x 8..drop finish..105x8/85x8/65x8/bar x10
inc curls 30/35/35
seated scott curl machine x3

forearms weighted rope rolls x2 up /down 3 times per
reverse cable behind back wrist curls x3..


nice shoulder Blast there Stevo. Behind the neck shoulder press i avoid. Still if you have the flexibility and robust shoulders why not. Rich picked up on shoulder Flexibility on another thread about stretching. still find it a hard exercise for my shoulders.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 28, 2015, 10:36:15 AM
Arms today...

EZ Bar curls 3 sets
incline DB curls 3 sets
Machine preacher curls 3 sets

Incline EZ Bar extensions 3 sets
Seated Tricep machine 3 sets
One arm cable kickbacks 3 sets

Abs; Crunches and reverse crunches 3 sets each with little rest.  cardio was cycling around on my mountain bike. Nice easy Day in Celle. Clocks go forward an Hour at 2 am so lighter longer in the evening :) great for my evening runs in the woods.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 29, 2015, 07:24:25 AM
A very quite Day at Home today..itīs hammering down with rain. i am Bored.. :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 29, 2015, 05:47:08 PM
leg day

squats slight narrower stance ..135 warmed x20...225/275/315/365
walking lunges 80 lbs on neck x2
leg press close foot position x3 5/6/6.5 plates
extensions x4 set 12

hams
sldl 135/185/225/245
lying leg curls 140/150/155/155.

seated calf raises x6

'palm sunday'dinner at moms...

course one ...italian pizza gain or pizza rustica traditional easter pie
ravioli'cheese...'sausage/sausage meatballs/regular meatballs,pork on bone

second course
lamb/potatoes/brussel sprouts shredded with onions/balsamic /

desset
cannolis/pastries/italian bread cake /espresso
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 29, 2015, 06:24:54 PM
leg day

squats slight narrower stance ..135 warmed x20...225/275/315/365
walking lunges 80 lbs on neck x2
leg press close foot position x3 5/6/6.5 plates
extensions x4 set 12

hams
sldl 135/185/225/245
lying leg curls 140/150/155/155.

seated calf raises x6

'palm sunday'dinner at moms...

course one ...italian pizza gain or pizza rustica traditional easter pie
ravioli'cheese...'sausage/sausage meatballs/regular meatballs,pork on bone

second course
lamb/potatoes/brussel sprouts shredded with onions/balsamic /

desset
cannolis/pastries/italian bread cake /espresso

No wrong intentions, but where does your mom live?

(http://i.c-b.co/is/image/Crate/RouletteBlueDinnerPltS12R)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 29, 2015, 07:26:25 PM
No wrong intentions, but where does your mom live?

(http://i.c-b.co/is/image/Crate/RouletteBlueDinnerPltS12R)
lol....nice plate,, dropping...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 29, 2015, 09:01:28 PM
leg day

squats slight narrower stance ..135 warmed x20...225/275/315/365
walking lunges 80 lbs on neck x2
leg press close foot position x3 5/6/6.5 plates
extensions x4 set 12

hams
sldl 135/185/225/245
lying leg curls 140/150/155/155.

seated calf raises x6

'palm sunday'dinner at moms...

course one ...italian pizza gain or pizza rustica traditional easter pie
ravioli'cheese...'sausage/sausage meatballs/regular meatballs,pork on bone

second course
lamb/potatoes/brussel sprouts shredded with onions/balsamic /

desset
cannolis/pastries/italian bread cake /espresso

I want an Italian family to adopt me.  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 29, 2015, 09:04:21 PM
No wrong intentions, but where does your mom live?

(http://i.c-b.co/is/image/Crate/RouletteBlueDinnerPltS12R)

This is our everyday china. It is great! Service for 12 plus extras. Now if I could get get some of that delicious food Steve has every day on these plates, I'd feel like I died and gone to heaven.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 30, 2015, 01:46:38 AM
lol....nice plate,, dropping...

Thank you Steve, and it would look even nicer with homemade Italian foods :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 30, 2015, 01:48:59 AM
Steve must have a fast metabolism... all that great Italian food..i would get fat in no time.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 30, 2015, 07:46:02 AM
Chest today..

Incline Barbell press 3 sets
Incline DB flys 3 sets
Decline Barbell press 3 sets
Decline Flys 3 sets

2 x max push ups ( hands on dBs)

Decline Flys for a change... and why the hell not  ;)

Machine crunch 3 set. Leg raises off a flat bench 3 sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 30, 2015, 07:53:02 AM
Tomorrow iīll do some BB Hack squats. i like them with Front squats. Itīs thought of as  a reverse Deadlift by some but works other muscles. Like front squats it really hits my quads good.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2015, 08:01:26 PM
chest

fdb press...60/75/85/85-60 drop palms rotated in on 60's
declines x3
inc flye ..45/50/55's sets 10
guillotine press x3'smith'
2 sets dips x15 with decline pushups x12

tris
pushdowns x4 120-150
skullcrushers x3'premade curl bar'
superset close grip bench with rope pushowns x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on March 30, 2015, 08:10:45 PM
Have not trained since last Thursday.  I tend to think that 2 or 3 days rest is max for me but will see how 4 days off feels when I train tomorrow morning.  I have done the 7 to 10 days that Mentzer recommended at the end of his life but I trained so hard doing that and was still sore after that amount of time (real SORE) and could not make any gains due to soreness. 

I think 4 days may be too long a rest period but I will see how it goes around 4 a.m. tomorrow.  If I am actually stronger and get a good session in (including a good pump), fine.  If not then down to 3 days of rest.  If not there, the 2 days off which I know to be good.

Right now I feel fluffy weak.  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on March 30, 2015, 08:44:45 PM
Tomorrow iīll do some BB Hack squats. i like them with Front squats. Itīs thought of as  a reverse Deadlift by some but works other muscles. Like front squats it really hits my quads good.

Never got the hang of these.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 31, 2015, 10:42:31 AM
Never got the hang of these.
have no hack machine in the Gym. sad but true
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 31, 2015, 10:46:33 AM
Legs..

Front squats 4 sets
BB Hacks 4 sets
seated leg curls 4 sets
Stiff legged Deadlifts with dbs 4 sets
Standing smith machine calf raises 5 sets

cardio crosser 30 mins interval programme. Jelly legs... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on March 31, 2015, 07:44:47 PM
Back, chest and abs this morning at 4 a.m.  And yes, four days was borderline too much rest.  I wasn't any weaker nor stronger but I also wasn't full of energy.

I will stick with between one and three days rest from now on unless I am on vacation or overwhelmed with family and work related stuff.

I really like how you gents train legs and miss that aspect my regimen.  Very persperational!

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on March 31, 2015, 08:16:59 PM
have no hack machine in the Gym. sad but true
We have a couple, hurts my knees so I was trying bbell hacks.  Just couldn't get the groove.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 31, 2015, 10:00:51 PM
have no hack machine in the Gym. sad but true

This is sad for sure. I love the hack machine. I do regular hack squats on it and reverse hacks for hams and glutes. Maybe you should open your own gym Donny. You probably know more about exercise, health and running a gym then the folks you work for.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 01, 2015, 02:52:10 AM
This is sad for sure. I love the hack machine. I do regular hack squats on it and reverse hacks for hams and glutes. Maybe you should open your own gym Donny. You probably know more about exercise, health and running a gym then the folks you work for.
Itīs not a Hardcore Bodybuilding Gym. The most people are happy to do seated leg press. We of course have some young Guys doing the meat and bones exercises but no mass monsters and guys are not allowed to wear muscle shirts.. ::) stupid i know. only time i have spoke to someone was because i saw a guy wearing a blatant Neo-Nazi t shirt. I told him to either change it or turn it inside out so the Picture was hidden. I just give him the evil stare every time i see him. check this out his girlfriend who trains with him is a German Cop.. ??? She said he is no longer a neo-Nazi but i donīt buy it. this would not be a Gym for the powerlifters or Hardcore guys on here. most people i train are office types,nurses.. people with back,knee,neck problems. the Gyms in Hannover are bigger and much better, although there are some small gyms out there with the right mind set.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 01, 2015, 02:57:34 AM
Back, chest and abs this morning at 4 a.m.  And yes, four days was borderline too much rest.  I wasn't any weaker nor stronger but I also wasn't full of energy.

I will stick with between one and three days rest from now on unless I am on vacation or overwhelmed with family and work related stuff.

I really like how you gents train legs and miss that aspect my regimen.  Very persperational!


Mind you at 4 am there aint that many people working out...Hardcore enough Scotty. i know you do it because of your sleeping problem. i would do some Stationery bike for my cardio and to work legs a bit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on April 01, 2015, 07:02:52 PM
Mind you at 4 am there aint that many people working out...Hardcore enough Scotty. i know you do it because of your sleeping problem. i would do some Stationery bike for my cardio and to work legs a bit.

My bad leg no longer bends enough to ride.  I have a recumbent bike that I had given thought to putting on a track stand in the garage but there's no way it will bend much past a few degrees.  As complications from surgery have taken a toll on me I am not keen to go back under the knife, LOL!

I am still in therapy so there's still a chance.  I recently got my BiPaP and it helps me to sleep roughly 6 hours at a time and I no  longer stop breathing.  Before it was for up to three minutes at a time.  I have always hoped the Angel of Death looked like Sandra Bullock... ;D

(http://how-rich.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/SandraBullockMay-attrbAngelaGeorge.jpg)

Shoulders, arms and abs today. It went well too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 02, 2015, 02:39:33 AM
back last night ..

Front chins 4 sets
Close grip underhand chins 4 sets
Barbell rows 4 sets
straight arm lat pulldown 3 sets

Cardio 15 mins bike, 15 mins, crosser,10 mins rowing.  the rowing really kills my forearms at the end of a back workout. I turn the intensity high up and switch grips starting with a normal hands over grip then an underhand grip and finally i swap to a mixed grip. Really pumps up my lower arms and finishes off my back. 10 mins is a long time at high intensity going hard.. ;D

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 02, 2015, 02:52:30 AM
My bad leg no longer bends enough to ride.  I have a recumbent bike that I had given thought to putting on a track stand in the garage but there's no way it will bend much past a few degrees.  As complications from surgery have taken a toll on me I am not keen to go back under the knife, LOL!

I am still in therapy so there's still a chance.  I recently got my BiPaP and it helps me to sleep roughly 6 hours at a time and I no  longer stop breathing.  Before it was for up to three minutes at a time.  I have always hoped the Angel of Death looked like Sandra Bullock... ;D

(http://how-rich.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/SandraBullockMay-attrbAngelaGeorge.jpg)

Shoulders, arms and abs today. It went well too.
I always liked Emmanuelle Seigner who played with Johnny Depp in the Film The Ninth Gate...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 02, 2015, 06:46:29 AM
BACK/TRAPS/CALVES/ABS

HAMMER MACHINE UNDERHAND GRIP PULLDOWNS ...WARMED 45 PER SIDE X20....45 AND 25/2 PLATES /2 PLATES 2 TEN'S PER SIDE
BENT OVER ROW 'TRADITIONAL'135/185/225
CABLE LOW ROWS 180/195/210
STANDING WIDE BAR PULLS TO WAIST X3
CABLE ROPES ON SEATED ROW PULL TO FACE AND SQUEEZE'NICE UPPER TRAP/RHOMBOID..

LOWER BACK HYPERS WEIGHT 45 PLATE X3X12

TRAPS SHRUGS 185/225/275/315/135X20
3 SETS CABLE SHRUGS WITH SINGLE HANDLES

CALVES 3 SETS DROPS 10 REPS PER 200/180/160/140 THESE KILL..

ABS

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 02, 2015, 06:52:16 AM
BACK/TRAPS/CALVES/ABS

HAMMER MACHINE UNDERHAND GRIP PULLDOWNS ...WARMED 45 PER SIDE X20....45 AND 25/2 PLATES /2 PLATES 2 TEN'S PER SIDE
BENT OVER ROW 'TRADITIONAL'135/185/225
CABLE LOW ROWS 180/195/210
STANDING WIDE BAR PULLS TO WAIST X3
CABLE ROPES ON SEATED ROW PULL TO FACE AND SQUEEZE'NICE UPPER TRAP/RHOMBOID..

LOWER BACK HYPERS WEIGHT 45 PLATE X3X12

TRAPS SHRUGS 185/225/275/315/135X20
3 SETS CABLE SHRUGS WITH SINGLE HANDLES

CALVES 3 SETS DROPS 10 REPS PER 200/180/160/140 THESE KILL..

ABS


nice Steve.. i like the pull to face.. normally i do them standing. Have to try that seated like you wrote. stricter i think and i bet you use more weight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 02, 2015, 08:07:44 AM
nice Steve.. i like the pull to face.. normally i do them standing. Have to try that seated like you wrote. stricter i think and i bet you use more weight.
THANKS..YEAH TRYING SOME NEW THINGS,AND THE BODY PARTS CHANGED A BIT TRAPS WBACK INSTEAD DELTS ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 02, 2015, 08:14:49 AM
THANKS..YEAH TRYING SOME NEW THINGS,AND THE BODY PARTS CHANGED A BIT TRAPS WBACK INSTEAD DELTS ...
Gonna try it. Nice. I think as long as the muscle(s) are hit why not try new things? all good. Was out earlier on on my Mountain bike and got blasted by massive hail stones. Really stung on the face.. the weather is really fucked up at the moment.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 02, 2015, 08:26:13 AM
Gonna try it. Nice. I think as long as the muscle(s) are hit why not try new things? all good. Was out earlier on on my Mountain bike and got blasted by massive hail stones. Really stung on the face.. the weather is really fucked up at the moment.
damn..it snowed /rained one nite few days ago out of nowhere,we are climbing into 50's finally..it was brutal this winter here..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 02, 2015, 08:32:25 AM
damn..it snowed /rained one nite few days ago out of nowhere,we are climbing into 50's finally..it was brutal this winter here..
looking forward to better weather. when i was out and about i saw that the River Aller was rising. some areas here get problems with flooding.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 02, 2015, 12:21:34 PM
Our granddaughter, whose wedding I went to last summer in Uettingen, Germany, is pregnant. The baby is due next November. If all goes well, my wife and I will be great-grandparents. How wild is that?

Our son arrives here from Germany for a visit with us. We are looking forward to Easter with family and friends. He'll probably only be here about a week before he has to go to either Ohio or D.C. for some business meetings.

My wife is doing well on dialysis. She's much more alert. She's actually awake and doing things most of the day lately. There's a possibility she will be able to discontinue dialysis soon because her lab work suggests that her kidney's have regained some function. From what I could find out this is rare, but it does sometimes happen.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 02, 2015, 12:23:57 PM
Our granddaughter, whose wedding I went to last summer in Uettingen, Germany, is pregnant. The baby is due next November. If all goes well, my wife and I will be great-grandparents. How wild is that?

Our son arrives here from Germany for a visit with us. We are looking forward to Easter with family and friends. He'll probably only be here about a week before he has to go to either Ohio or D.C. for some business meetings.

My wife is doing well on dialysis. She's much more alert. She's actually awake and doing things most of the day lately. There's a possibility she will be able to discontinue dialysis soon because her lab works suggests that her kidney's have regained some function. From what I could find out this is rare, but it does sometimes happen.

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 8)...CONGRATS ON BOTH NEWS....WELL DESERVED....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 02, 2015, 12:34:06 PM
Our granddaughter, whose wedding I went to last summer in Uettingen, Germany, is pregnant. The baby is due next November. If all goes well, my wife and I will be great-grandparents. How wild is that?

Our son arrives here from Germany for a visit with us. We are looking forward to Easter with family and friends. He'll probably only be here about a week before he has to go to either Ohio or D.C. for some business meetings.

My wife is doing well on dialysis. She's much more alert. She's actually awake and doing things most of the day lately. There's a possibility she will be able to discontinue dialysis soon because her lab works suggests that her kidney's have regained some function. From what I could find out this is rare, but it does sometimes happen.

Can only agree with Steve.. Congratulations to you and your Wife and Family. Great Grand Daddy... ;D  I am still waiting for my boys to marry... Best news of course is your wife Jay
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on April 02, 2015, 06:42:57 PM
Our granddaughter, whose wedding I went to last summer in Uettingen, Germany, is pregnant. The baby is due next November. If all goes well, my wife and I will be great-grandparents. How wild is that?

Our son arrives here from Germany for a visit with us. We are looking forward to Easter with family and friends. He'll probably only be here about a week before he has to go to either Ohio or D.C. for some business meetings.

My wife is doing well on dialysis. She's much more alert. She's actually awake and doing things most of the day lately. There's a possibility she will be able to discontinue dialysis soon because her lab work suggests that her kidney's have regained some function. From what I could find out this is rare, but it does sometimes happen.


HUZZAH!!!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on April 02, 2015, 06:45:40 PM
I always liked Emmanuelle Seigner who played with Johnny Depp in the Film The Ninth Gate...


An excellent film and a stunningly beautiful woman, my friend!

Back, chest and abs today.  I had to take a break to fix something so it took me almost an hour to get it all done.  I feel pretty good.  Another doc appointment coming up Monday.  Nothing compared to what Prime and his beloved go through together, mind you.  First world medical problems is what I have I know... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 03, 2015, 06:49:12 AM
Did shoulders and arms today at home...

Tri set :
Front/side/rear raises 3 Tri sets
Barbell Neider press 3 x12 reps (really fried my delts after the tri set and constant tension)
Barbell close grip upright rows 3 sets

ez bar curls 3 sets
Seated DB curls 3 sets
Parallel bar Tri dips 3 sets
Incline EZ Bar extensions 3 sets

I will go for a bike ride later as the sun is out.  ;) Most people are off today and Monday.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 03, 2015, 12:45:14 PM
delts

behind neck press x4
seated lateral raise machine x4
bent over laterals lying face down on bench '1 peg up slight incline'x3
front raises x3 with premade curl bar'overhand grip'
2 sets  standing cable behind  back

bis
db curls x3 30/40/50
seated curl machine x3
cable curls x3
hammers x2 40/45

foerams
reverse cable wrist curl x4
reverse wrist curl cable behind back
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 04, 2015, 07:46:35 AM
i want to wish all the Mature thread Bros and sisters/ Training threads a Very Happy Easter...  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 04, 2015, 09:46:54 AM
i want to wish all the Mature thread Bros and sisters/ Training threads a Very Happy Easter...  :)
HAPPY EASTER/BUONO PASQUA..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 04, 2015, 09:51:50 AM
Have a great Easter my friends. Hope your day is filled with good things, wonderful times, friends and family....and Easter eggs too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 05, 2015, 07:40:09 AM
Have a great Easter my friends. Hope your day is filled with good things, wonderful times, friends and family....and Easter eggs too.
quite day today for me.. doing a few jobs in between which need done at home. wife and her Mother are at church...fraid itīs not for me. Fairly warm today so i just did some painting will dry nicely with the weather ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 05, 2015, 08:24:21 AM
went to church with family,,,nice..
did easter egg hunt in back yard and i hide them in house ,filled with jelly beans/loose change/choc/peanut eggs..they get stuffed bunny toy/chocolate rabbit ..they love easter like its christmas..

i did leg workout at home sat nite,, :-\,,i pumped tho...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2015, 01:42:18 PM
We're having a quiet day here too. It started out with a delicious breakfast our daughter fixed. There's some cooking going on in the kitchen right now. If I go out there, I'll get roped into helping. LOL! An old friend is coming over around 3:00 p.m. -Did not have to drive down to Salem to get my sister because she called to beg off coming because she doesn't feel well. This is a first for her.

Donny, isn't tomorrow also a holiday for you? My son said Monday following Easter is a German holiday.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 06, 2015, 01:55:34 AM
We're having a quiet day here too. It started out with a delicious breakfast our daughter fixed. There's some cooking going on in the kitchen right now. If I go out there, I'll get roped into helping. LOL! An old friend is coming over around 3:00 p.m. -Did not have to drive down to Salem to get my sister because she called to beg off coming because she doesn't feel well. This is a first for her.

Donny, isn't tomorrow also a holiday for you? My son said Monday following Easter is a German holiday.


yeah i am off Today. Gym is still open during the Day up untill 18.00
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on April 06, 2015, 03:49:34 AM
yeah i am off Today. Gym is still open during the Day up untill 18.00

I'm running late today.  Off to the gym it is!  Have an excellent day, lads!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 06, 2015, 07:16:38 AM
Did a Home chest workout..

Flat Barbell press 4 sets
Flat DB flys 4 sets
Incline DB press(Hammer grip) 4 sets

2x 50 full sit ups on floor mat.. that was it short and sweet.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 06, 2015, 01:58:03 PM
Happy Easter everyone. My wife made seafood risotto with clams, shrimp, scallops and other stuff. She also made a turkey with stuffing for some of the foolish seafood hating guesses. She wrapped asparagus cooked in garlic with bacon. The best was the Italian Easter pie. It had prosciutto, capicola, bacon, and italian cheeses in it. Home stuffed cannoli and ice cream sundaes for desert.  Italian and California wines were uncorked. There is no way you can have an Italian wife and be ripped.  

Church was packed and the Priest said I hope to see everyone more than twice a year. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 06, 2015, 02:14:06 PM
Our granddaughter, whose wedding I went to last summer in Uettingen, Germany, is pregnant. The baby is due next November. If all goes well, my wife and I will be great-grandparents. How wild is that?

Our son arrives here from Germany for a visit with us. We are looking forward to Easter with family and friends. He'll probably only be here about a week before he has to go to either Ohio or D.C. for some business meetings.

My wife is doing well on dialysis. She's much more alert. She's actually awake and doing things most of the day lately. There's a possibility she will be able to discontinue dialysis soon because her lab work suggests that her kidney's have regained some function. From what I could find out this is rare, but it does sometimes happen.


Never heard of someone going off of dialysis before. Just great news. My daughters are in the medical field. I have to ask them. My kidneys were borderline bad but the doctor told me it was the result of taking creatine and protein powder. I thought that sounded nuts and of course I did my own internet research. In the end I stopped both supplements and what do you know? My kidney tests came back perfect. Maybe the doc knows something. LOL.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2015, 02:20:19 PM
Happy Easter everyone. My wife made seafood risotto with clams, shrimp, scallops and other stuff. She also made a turkey with stuffing for some of the foolish seafood hating guesses. She wrapped asparagus cooked in garlic with bacon. The best was the Italian Easter pie. It had prosciutto, capicola, bacon, and italian cheeses in it. Home stuffed cannoli and ice cream sundaes for desert.  Italian and California wines were uncorked. There is no way you can have an Italian wife and be ripped.  

Church was packed and the Priest said I hope to see everyone more than twice a year. 
NICE....WE ORDERED OUT THIS YEAR WIFE WORKED 12 NITE SHIFT NIGHT BEFORE...I HAD SAME DISH SORTA FRUTTI DI MARE WITH LINGUINI..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 06, 2015, 02:25:18 PM
Never heard of someone going off of dialysis before. Just great news. My daughters are in the medical field. I have to ask them. My kidneys were borderline bad but the doctor told me it was the result of taking creatine and protein powder. I thought that sounded nuts and of course I did my own internet research. In the end I stopped both supplements and what do you know? My kidney tests came back perfect. Maybe the doc knows something. LOL.

Interesting information about the Creatine and protein powder. I've not heard this before. I sometimes use creatine and will supplement a meal or have a snack meal by drinking a protein drink. I don't overdo it though. My wife's kidneys are chronic because she has had type II diabetes for many years. High blood pressure can also cause kidney failure. Mine must be okay since I have regular blood work done and it always comes back fine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 07, 2015, 06:38:41 AM
chest
fdb press..60 x12....75/80/85/90
decline x3
inc press x4 135/185
cable crossovers x3
dips x2x20

tris
skull crushers x3 premade curl bar 60/70/80
reverse grip pushdowns x3
rope downs x3
close grip x2 185

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 07, 2015, 08:18:39 AM
legs today

Front squats 4x10-15
BB Hack squats 4x10-15
seated leg curls 4 x10-15
Stiff legged deadlifts 4x10-15
seated calf raises 5x15-20

Abs; crunches 3x max with heels on a flat bench. no cardio. relatively high reps on legs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 07, 2015, 10:39:01 AM
Interesting information about the Creatine and protein powder. I've not heard this before. I sometimes use creatine and will supplement a meal or have a snack meal by drinking a protein drink. I don't overdo it though. My wife's kidneys are chronic because she has had type II diabetes for many years. High blood pressure can also cause kidney failure. Mine must be okay since I have regular blood work done and it always comes back fine.

Not saying it's bad for everyone. It was a problem for me though. I could have calmed my fears that the high creatinine was just a by product of creatine supplement use throwing off my tests but why play with fire? The kidneys do filter the blood.  The majority can take protein shake after protein shake without problems but for me I will stop using it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 07, 2015, 12:43:42 PM
Not saying it's bad for everyone. It was a problem for me though. I could have calmed my fears that the high creatinine was just a by product of creatine supplement use throwing off my tests but why play with fire? The kidneys do filter the blood.  The majority can take protein shake after protein shake without problems but for me I will stop using it.

It seems heavy lifting might raise creatinine levels.

Jordan R Moon · United States Sports Academy
Quote
Creatinine and creatine/muscle creatine are not the same thing. Remember that creatine is found in meat products, or more specifically, in muscle that we eat. Most men on a normal diet get a bunch of creatine in their diet. However, high levels of creatinine can be associated with kidney problems and if an athlete has kidney problems they probably shouldn't be using creatine, but it depends on the problems. THAT BEING SAID, the high creatinine level of 1.4 is only slightly higher than the normal range of 1.27. Most likely the high creatinine levels are related to his heavy lifting and not the creatine supplementation. Remember that a by-product of heavy lifting is creatinine which is created when creatine is broken down in the muscle to produce energy, whats left is creatinine which is passed through the kidneys and excreted.
http://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_effect_of_creatine_supplementation_on_creatinine_levels_as_measured_in_blood_tests
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 08, 2015, 09:53:26 AM
Back ..

front chins 4 x max
Close grip underhand chins 3x max
Machine rows 4 sets
Barbell pull overs 3 sets

leg raises off flat bench 2x 50 Cardio Running
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 08, 2015, 01:48:12 PM
It seems heavy lifting might raise creatinine levels.

Jordan R Moon · United States Sports Academy http://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_effect_of_creatine_supplementation_on_creatinine_levels_as_measured_in_blood_tests

Thanks for that. Never heard of the United States Sports Academy before. Is it a real college with a campus? I did think the heavy lifting and the creatine I was taking was throwing my kidney tests off by making the by product of creatinine.  Just found even with heavy lifting my kidney tests came back perfect without the creatine and whey protein.  I do have a strong suspicion that maybe whey protein had little to do with it and it was the supplemental creatine causing a high creatinin measure that is used to check kidney function.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 08, 2015, 02:23:32 PM
Thanks for that. Never heard of the United States Sports Academy before. Is it a real college with a campus? I did think the heavy lifting and the creatine I was taking was throwing my kidney tests off by making the by product of creatinine.  Just found even with heavy lifting my kidney tests came back perfect without the creatine and whey protein.  I do have a strong suspicion that maybe whey protein had little to do with it and it was the supplemental creatine causing a high creatinin measure that is used to check kidney function.

Well, it's not Princeton....LOL! It does appear to be accredited though. http://ussa.edu/about/accreditation/
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 08, 2015, 07:54:05 PM
back
chins wide x2 inner x2
tbar row elevated version body supported underhand grip,, plate and 25,,2 plates ..2 plates 10 and 2 plates 2 10's
behind pulldowns x3
cable pulley low row x3 180/195/210
rope pulls standing to waist pulldowns x3

weighted hypersx3

shrugs 135 x20/225x15.275 x 12,315x12
cable side shrugs x3

abs 5 sets 30 on lying crunch machine

calves drops standing calf raise x3 40 rep sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on April 08, 2015, 08:52:08 PM
Any of you guys into lifting heavy? Seems like everyone here is into pump and fitness.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 09, 2015, 06:10:53 AM
weather is great today.. sun is shining  ;D

shoulder tri set..

front,side,rear raises 4 sets
 
Seated DB press 4 sets
close grip Barbell upright rows 4 sets

standing calf raises 5 sets. Cardio was a cycle to a cafe for an ice cream ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 09, 2015, 06:24:33 AM
Any of you guys into lifting heavy? Seems like everyone here is into pump and fitness.
post a typical workout weight/set/rep ranges...close or exact.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on April 09, 2015, 09:39:48 AM
post a typical workout weight/set/rep ranges...close or exact.
Really depends, usually I do a heavy lift first then the rest 10 rep lifts. Example would be back day today. ...I will go to 635-675 on rack pulls, then 8-10 reps on other lifts.
I ask because I wonder if there was a certain age or an event that happened were people decide to back of and refocus their efforts.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 09, 2015, 09:50:12 AM
Really depends, usually I do a heavy lift first then the rest 10 rep lifts. Example would be back day today. ...I will go to 635-675 on rack pulls, then 8-10 reps on other lifts.
I ask because I wonder if there was a certain age or an event that happened were people decide to back of and refocus their efforts.
also depends what you are training for like other sports for example martial arts training.depends how you define "Hard and Heavy". I know guys who train "Hard and Heavy" but are far from my idea of all round fitness because although i might not train so heavy i am also training "Hard". lifting heavy weights is not everything.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 09, 2015, 10:51:13 AM
Really depends, usually I do a heavy lift first then the rest 10 rep lifts. Example would be back day today. ...I will go to 635-675 on rack pulls, then 8-10 reps on other lifts.
I ask because I wonder if there was a certain age or an event that happened were people decide to back of and refocus their efforts.
how many working sets or execises do you do for back,i did 17 sets for back and 5 exercises,i know by now your muscles will grow on anything 'meaning focusing on say rows for thickness or chins for width theory 'is relative ,but you can still perform exercises to focus on little areas of the upper/mid/lower back ,I still go heavy on bent over rows for me'225/265 range 'most people can never ever do that,'we are not talking about hardcore magazine pros'who can toss 315/405 like nothing...I don't post the cable weights I use cause I usually stack them on certain movements.i train pretty heavy 'little rest'between sets..for my age and bf%/condition i'm in all year I would consider my self pretty strong.i would say on bodyparts to 'impress'people my back/bicep'trap'legs of course poundages are pretty good.other stuff I pump as you would say.i'm 5'7 pretty small joints by nature ,my workouts tend to vary and I play on my strengths best I could.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on April 09, 2015, 12:07:14 PM
also depends what you are training for like other sports for example martial arts training.depends how you define "Hard and Heavy". I know guys who train "Hard and Heavy" but are far from my idea of all round fitness because although i might not train so heavy i am also training "Hard". lifting heavy weights is not everything.
By heavy I'm talking straight #'s.

how many working sets or execises do you do for back,i did 17 sets for back and 5 exercises,i know by now your muscles will grow on anything 'meaning focusing on say rows for thickness or chins for width theory 'is relative ,but you can still perform exercises to focus on little areas of the upper/mid/lower back ,I still go heavy on bent over rows for me'225/265 range 'most people can never ever do that,'we are not talking about hardcore magazine pros'who can toss 315/405 like nothing...I don't post the cable weights I use cause I usually stack them on certain movements.i train pretty heavy 'little rest'between sets..for my age and bf%/condition i'm in all year I would consider my self pretty strong.i would say on bodyparts to 'impress'people my back/bicep'trap'legs of course poundages are pretty good.other stuff I pump as you would say.i'm 5'7 pretty small joints by nature ,my workouts tend to vary and I play on my strengths best I could.
I do tons of sets, not alot of exercises.  Back today, I'll do deads or rack pulls, then typically bbell rows, another type of row and some type of overhead pull. So it could be 3-4 exercises for back, but on rack pulls/deads I work up in weight to doubles/singles, then back down to 4-5 rep range, then back up for a few more sets. Including warm up I can do up to 14 sets for rack pulls, granted maybe 4-5 of those are singles or doubles. The rest of my workout would be 3-4 sets each exercise.



I always read about how people change their workouts as they get older and I wonder if there is an age that people hit where they just don't want to do it or they can't.  Guy on the training board is in his mid 70's and just pulled 500 from the floor. Impressive.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 09, 2015, 12:40:30 PM
By heavy I'm talking straight #'s.
I do tons of sets, not alot of exercises.  Back today, I'll do deads or rack pulls, then typically bbell rows, another type of row and some type of overhead pull. So it could be 3-4 exercises for back, but on rack pulls/deads I work up in weight to doubles/singles, then back down to 4-5 rep range, then back up for a few more sets. Including warm up I can do up to 14 sets for rack pulls, granted maybe 4-5 of those are singles or doubles. The rest of my workout would be 3-4 sets each exercise.



I always read about how people change their workouts as they get older and I wonder if there is an age that people hit where they just don't want to do it or they can't.  Guy on the training board is in his mid 70's and just pulled 500 from the floor. Impressive.
do it or can't.. I assume is up to the individual.i see your point tho in say my leg training on squats why do I stop at 405 for 8 and not try a triple at higher wait,or add a 45 or start heavier past warm ups,,,i kinda been doing it a bit more lately to see if some plateus strength wise could be pushed a tad.im very focused on the 'look'and condition aspect of physique building....I respect what you can do and reading your workouts you incorporated other movements or stuff which will help your main strength exercises...at almost 47 my training is intense/faster paced than when I was younger,difference is to yrs ago and back to 20's I was a bit stronger on certain pressing movements but not much lost say 5 % decrease if that..legs are stronger than ever /same with back movements,arms,...delts/chest I seem to rep/pump/drop set more,,my delts grew better on 'pump 'style,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 09, 2015, 12:47:31 PM
How old are you chaos? Over 40 I think, some older guys have old injuries too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 09, 2015, 02:18:01 PM
Any of you guys into lifting heavy? Seems like everyone here is into pump and fitness.

I'm not super strong except on the leg press. These days I go for full range movements using moderate resistance. My bench press has always sucked. I have very long arms which seems to hinder using a lot of weight.  I think the most I've ever lifted for about 6 reps on the bench was 275.

Earl, a friend of mine who is ten years older than me was entering and winning power lifting contests when he was my age. He claimed he won mainly because there was no competition in his age class.  Unfortunately, he has Parkinson's now so he's just showing up at the gym and chatting, no more heavy lifting. Old age is a bitch sometimes.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 09, 2015, 02:32:09 PM

I always read about how people change their workouts as they get older and I wonder if there is an age that people hit where they just don't want to do it or they can't.  Guy on the training board is in his mid 70's and just pulled 500 from the floor. Impressive.

This is impressive. The fellow must be very strong.

Whether folks change their workouts as they get older or not depends on a lot of things, such as: old injuries, arthritis, general health and their basic strength.

I was a puny kid until I started lifting weights. My strength and size improved and I was on a regime of D-bol and test as prescribed by the doctor. This was when I was 16-18 years old. Although I discontinued take steroids, I continued lifting weights for the rest of my life. These days I am on HRT which probably explains why I am still fairly lean and muscular. My current weight is the same as it was when I was 18 years old, about 185 lbs. In my late twenties, I was in a bulking phase and got up to 225 lbs. That was the most I've ever weighed. I feel better being thinner.  I tend to bulk up if I lift heavy. I think these things go hand in hand for most folks.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on April 09, 2015, 02:48:45 PM
How old are you chaos? Over 40 I think, some older guys have old injuries too.
41 now. I have a huge joint structure and no injuries so I'm hoping to push heavy lifting as long as I can.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 09, 2015, 07:32:12 PM
41 now. I have a huge joint structure and no injuries so I'm hoping to push heavy lifting as long as I can.
8)....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 09, 2015, 08:01:39 PM
delts
db press x4 50/60/65/55
side raise machine ,,70/80/90/....95 drop75/55 10 reps per
lying rear delt raise 25's x3
front raise' underhand 'premade curl bar..50/60/70

bis
curls straight bar..85/105/115..10/8/6
seated curl machine x3 single arm
inc db curl...30/40/40..10/10/8
hammers sets 10 x2 40's

foreams
rope rolls x3
cable reverse curls x4
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 10, 2015, 04:20:50 AM
arms/abs....

supersets

Seated Dumbbell curls 3 sets with
incline ez bar extensions (my favourite Tri ex)

Barbell curls 3 sets with
Close grip Bench press

DB concentration curls 3 sets with
one arm behind head DB extensions

Abs: crunch SS with Leg raises 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 11, 2015, 05:33:21 AM
well...quite day today for me. Going to sit outside get a bit of sun. Face and arms got a good bit of sun in the last few Days..  first i am going out to get some shopping in and some Corona Beer  ;D ;D ;D what the hell itīs  Saturday !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 11, 2015, 05:35:13 AM
well...quite day today for me. Going to sit outside get a bit of sun. Face and arms got a good bit of sun in the last few Days..  first i am going out to get some shopping in and some Corona Beer  ;D ;D ;D what the hell itīs  Saturday !
nice here finally too
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 11, 2015, 07:15:48 AM
nice here finally too
yes... enjoying it... my Face is looking quite Brown... :) Iīll train tomorrow, go for a run and some abs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 11, 2015, 11:34:17 AM
Really depends, usually I do a heavy lift first then the rest 10 rep lifts. Example would be back day today. ...I will go to 635-675 on rack pulls, then 8-10 reps on other lifts.
I ask because I wonder if there was a certain age or an event that happened were people decide to back of and refocus their efforts.

What's a rack pull? Is that a half deadlift off the pins in a rack? What do you pull from the floor?

Weight is also relative. We all know guys that short stroke reps in pressing so they can use big weights.  Another factor is speed of the workout. I remember back in the day a guy from my gym saying he saw Chris Dickerson training and the weights were a joke. Guys in the gym said he asked to work out with him the next time he saw him to show him up and he couldn't keep up. Chris did something like 6 sets of 10 reps with very little rest. It made the little weights very heavy after going through exercise after exercise.

 Whenever I hear a guy say what he uses in inclines, leg presses, squats or just about anything else I know I have to see them do it. Bodybuilding is filled with insecure guys. My buddy said he used the 120lbs dumbbells for incline pressing. When I saw him do it he actually was only doing half reps. If he went all the way down he would be lucky if he could use the 90lbs. Same with squats and shallow depths so he can load up the plates. He would have been better off using 225lbs and sinking it to the bottom for quick set after quick set.

That's why I say bodybuilding is cosmetic. If you want to say you're strong how much can you pick up of the floor and put over head?  No way to fake it. You can do it or you can't.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on April 11, 2015, 12:04:38 PM
What's a rack pull? Is that a half deadlift off the pins in a rack? What do you pull from the floor?

Weight is also relative. We all know guys that short stroke reps in pressing so they can use big weights.  Another factor is speed of the workout. I remember back in the day a guy from my gym saying he saw Chris Dickerson training and the weights were a joke. Guys in the gym said he asked to work out with him the next time he saw him to show him up and he couldn't keep up. Chris did something like 6 sets of 10 reps with very little rest. It made the little weights very heavy after going through exercise after exercise.

 Whenever I hear a guy say what he uses in inclines, leg presses, squats or just about anything else I know I have to see them do it. Bodybuilding is filled with insecure guys. My buddy said he used the 120lbs dumbbells for incline pressing. When I saw him do it he actually was only doing half reps. If he went all the way down he would be lucky if he could use the 90lbs. Same with squats and shallow depths so he can load up the plates. He would have been better off using 225lbs and sinking it to the bottom for quick set after quick set.

That's why I say bodybuilding is cosmetic. If you want to say you're strong how much can you pick up of the floor and put over head?  No way to fake it. You can do it or you can't.

I agree.  Functional strength versus fictional strength.  Just compare Strongman competitors to bodybuilders.

As for how Dickerson trained, I sometimes do that too.  I can get through 40 or so sets quickly and get a great pump too.  The weights are itsy bitsy but they get heavy very quick.

Rest day today. Yesterday I felt particularly weak but still trained.  My head wasn't in it but it was productive in that I did  something.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 11, 2015, 12:34:42 PM
well this is the Body i have always strived for.. not a fat belly powerlifter. like a sculpter at work always improving  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on April 11, 2015, 03:06:23 PM
What's a rack pull? Is that a half deadlift off the pins in a rack? What do you pull from the floor?

Weight is also relative. We all know guys that short stroke reps in pressing so they can use big weights.  Another factor is speed of the workout. I remember back in the day a guy from my gym saying he saw Chris Dickerson training and the weights were a joke. Guys in the gym said he asked to work out with him the next time he saw him to show him up and he couldn't keep up. Chris did something like 6 sets of 10 reps with very little rest. It made the little weights very heavy after going through exercise after exercise.

 Whenever I hear a guy say what he uses in inclines, leg presses, squats or just about anything else I know I have to see them do it. Bodybuilding is filled with insecure guys. My buddy said he used the 120lbs dumbbells for incline pressing. When I saw him do it he actually was only doing half reps. If he went all the way down he would be lucky if he could use the 90lbs. Same with squats and shallow depths so he can load up the plates. He would have been better off using 225lbs and sinking it to the bottom for quick set after quick set.

That's why I say bodybuilding is cosmetic. If you want to say you're strong how much can you pick up of the floor and put over head?  No way to fake it. You can do it or you can't.
Rack pull is off the pins, height depends on how I feel,  usually put the pin in the bottom hole. On my rack it puts the weight 3-4 inches off the ground. As for my form, I'm consistently complimented on how good it is, so I'll assume I'm doing it right. I am kind of a form nazi in the gym.  :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 11, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
leg day,,,,saw a guy in gym never saw before he was watching me train he said you got some strong legs.we talked for a minute he was 50 cant train legs heavy anymore 'knee'


i did hacks squats started with 2 plates warmed up quick worked with 3/4/5/6 plates a side 10 reps per last set with 6 i think 8 it was heavy
leg press 5/6/7/7/plates
walking lunges x2 80 lbs on back
extensions x3 220/235/235..12/12/11'cooked'

hams
sldl 135/185/205/225/245.10/10/10/10/8
leg curl seated upright..x3 185-210

calves seated calf raise..started 2 plates and 25 /3/3.5/4/4 with 2 drops,,,i do these 10 full reps then to do 5 top position to flat foot and then 5 from bottom stretch portion to flat position it burns ,,kinda like 21's with bi's,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 12, 2015, 04:23:10 AM
looking through some old pics ... some reeves pics i have never seen before. rare ab shot which you donīt see often. i read he liked tensing his abs hard on tricep pushdowns..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 12, 2015, 04:24:18 AM
this one..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 13, 2015, 06:24:07 AM
Chest..
Incline bb press 3 sets
Incline dB flys(offset grip) 3sets
Flat dB press (pronating grip)3sets
Flat flys(offset grip)3 sets

Cardio: stationary bike 45 mins. Off set grip on the flys ala reeves, thumb against inner plate
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 13, 2015, 08:12:37 PM
chest,,wasn't at my best strenght wise tonite,grinded reps than weight..good pump ,just felt fatigued quicker,,stayed same  wgt
certain exercises.

fdb warmed 2 sets 50's ,,jumped 70's ok/80 's/85 felt heavish/85 again lost few reps and dropped set to 60
inc db,,felt dead here 60/60/60 10/8/8/ couldn't go up
flat flyes 50's x3 8-10..great pump at this point but struggled
cable crossovers x3 x12
seated chest press'stack'version x3

tris
dip machine 170 x15/190x10/200/210x10
overhead rope extensionsx3
skull crushers premade curl bar 70's x3x10
pushdowns x3 x12

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 14, 2015, 01:29:35 AM
Our son is here visiting us from Germany. He manages to go for a run or a long walk everyday. I wish I was as ambitious and young as he is. He's 48 years old and fit as a fiddle.

I wish we lived closer to each other. I really enjoy his company. But then I enjoy and like all my children, son, daughter and their spouses. On Thursday, we are going to a Portland Winter Hawks hockey game. We will give those guys an earful if they play well and more of an earful if they don't. LOL.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 14, 2015, 07:45:50 AM
chest,,wasn't at my best strenght wise tonite,grinded reps than weight..good pump ,just felt fatigued quicker,,stayed same  wgt
certain exercises.

fdb warmed 2 sets 50's ,,jumped 70's ok/80 's/85 felt heavish/85 again lost few reps and dropped set to 60
inc db,,felt dead here 60/60/60 10/8/8/ couldn't go up
flat flyes 50's x3 8-10..great pump at this point but struggled
cable crossovers x3 x12
seated chest press'stack'version x3

tris
dip machine 170 x15/190x10/200/210x10
overhead rope extensionsx3
skull crushers premade curl bar 70's x3x10
pushdowns x3 x12

abs

sometimes itīs like that... i get Days where i am tired too. Sounds like you still got a good workout though.

Our son is here visiting us from Germany. He manages to go for a run or a long walk everyday. I wish I was as ambitious and young as he is. He's 48 years old and fit as a fiddle.

I wish we lived closer to each other. I really enjoy his company. But then I enjoy and like all my children, son, daughter and their spouses. On Thursday, we are going to a Portland Winter Hawks hockey game. We will give those guys an earful if they play well and more of an earful if they don't. LOL.
Thatīs the spirit Jay..enjoy the hockey Game. :)

Did legs Today...

Front squats 4 sets
Barbell hacks 4 sets
Leg curls 4 sets
Dumbbell stiff Deadlifts 4 sets
standing calve raises 5 sets

No cardio..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 15, 2015, 08:53:00 AM
Back..

Front chins 4 sets
Close grip pulldowns 4 sets
Seated wide grip cable rows 4 sets
BB pullovers 3 sets

 Seated calf raises 5 sets /Cardio was cycling outside a sunny Day today with a cool breeze. :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 15, 2015, 09:46:39 AM
Back..

Front chins 4 sets
Close grip pulldowns 4 sets
Seated wide grip cable rows 4 sets
BB pullovers 3 sets

 Seated calf raises 5 sets /Cardio was cycling outside a sunny Day today with a cool breeze. :)
I LIKE WIDE GRIP LOW ROWS....I DO ALOT OF INNER /WIDE/UNDERHAND GRIPS...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 15, 2015, 11:07:54 AM
I LIKE WIDE GRIP LOW ROWS....I DO ALOT OF INNER /WIDE/UNDERHAND GRIPS...
wide grip low rows i  like swapping with free weight rowing. Keeps it interesting too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 15, 2015, 08:26:46 PM
back
chins usual warm/start 2 wide/2 inner sets 12
wide grip low rows'donny'jogged my memory bank,,x3 150-180 10 reps
pulldowns x3 narrow bar'one usually used for cable low rows'165/180/180
one arm off rack db rows 90/95/95 heavy .
2 sets rope pulls to face seated

weighted hypers x3 15/14/12

traps
shrugs 'machine'2/3/4/5 plates..
reverse  4 plates x2

abs

calves,,3 sets drops 30 rep sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 15, 2015, 11:40:32 PM
It was 11:30 p.m. last night when I finally did my wimpy leg routine. 4 sets of 25 squats, 4 sets of 25 leg extensions and 4 sets of 20 good morning's. This is never going to give me the legs of my dreams, but it will keep them from looking old and saggy. Likewise my glutes.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 16, 2015, 04:55:17 AM
It was 11:30 p.m. last night when I finally did my wimpy leg routine. 4 sets of 25 squats, 4 sets of 25 leg extensions and 4 sets of 20 good morning's. This is never going to give me the legs of my dreams, but it will keep them from looking old and saggy. Likewise my glutes.
:D.. 8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 16, 2015, 08:33:43 AM
shoulders...

slightly diffrent workout.

Neider press 4 sets
Bradford press 4 sets
Face pulls for rear delts ala stevo 4 sets
close grip upright rows 4 sets

Crunches on floor mat SS with leg raises 3x max. cross Trainer 30 mins interval training.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 16, 2015, 08:39:04 AM
It was 11:30 p.m. last night when I finally did my wimpy leg routine. 4 sets of 25 squats, 4 sets of 25 leg extensions and 4 sets of 20 good morning's. This is never going to give me the legs of my dreams, but it will keep them from looking old and saggy. Likewise my glutes.
you aint old... fitter than most guys younger than you. I see guys in their 40s walking around with pregnant bellys.. breathing out their arse climbing stairs  ???..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 16, 2015, 04:52:30 PM
you aint old... fitter than most guys younger than you. I see guys in their 40s walking around with pregnant bellys.. breathing out their arse climbing stairs  ???..

Well I was very pleased to pass my annual physical with flying colors earlier this week.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 16, 2015, 07:40:45 PM
delts

front press x4
trisets side /front/rear laterals 20/25/25 dbells,,killer
cable uprights x3
arnold db press 35/45

bi's
curls x4 65-105
single arm machine curls x3
rope hammer curls x3
single arm cable curls x2

forearms reverse  bar nbehind back wrist curls x3
overhand reverse curls
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 16, 2015, 10:21:27 PM
The Portland Winterhawks earned a 5-3 win over the Everett Silvertips Thursday in Game 3 of their second round series at Veterans Memorial Coliseum. The Silvertips scored in the last few minutes of the game. -Lots of action. -Great audience participation. The Winterhawks cheerleaders were pretty hot looking and boy could they dance! What a great evening I had with my kids and grandson.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 17, 2015, 04:49:51 AM
The Portland Winterhawks earned a 5-3 win over the Everett Silvertips Thursday in Game 3 of their second round series at Veterans Memorial Coliseum. The Silvertips scored in the last few minutes of the game. -Lots of action. -Great audience participation. The Winterhawks cheerleaders were pretty hot looking and boy could they dance! What a great evening I had with my kids and grandson.
nice jay...your spirits are always up...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 17, 2015, 04:59:44 AM
nice jay...your spirits are always up...
x2...  Jay is a Top Guy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 17, 2015, 05:19:02 AM
Arm Blast .... ;D

EZ bar curls SS Parallel Bar Dips (3 sets)
seated Db curls SS incline EZ bar Extensions 3 sets
Db concentration curls SS cable kickbacks 3 sets

Preacher bench BB reverse curls 3 sets.

Standing smith machine calf raises 5 sets. Abs: Tri set with Bench leg raises, seated knee tucks, crunches (3 sets)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on April 17, 2015, 07:46:44 AM
Another rest day here.  There are times when I think the most difficult part of HIT is the amount of time off from lifting.  I have trained so freaking hard in 15 minutes that I am literally sore for over a week.  Right now I am trying to find a happy, and productive, medium.

Prior to my fall I would do maybe three sets each and the workout would take perhaps 15 minutes and I would be gasping for air and so sore I didn't want to train for another 7 to 10 days.  I couldn't train for another 7 to 10 days. 

Yesterday I did back and chest and thought about the impending soreness before I started so...I did this.

Three sets of pullups, close grip palms in and all to failure with what I jokingly call "Cutler-Ups" (partials) at the end of each set until I wanted to puke.

Smith machine rows, three sets to failure. No partials.

Palms in medium grip lat pulldowns.  Three sets 10 to 12 reps with partials at the end of the last set.

DB pulllovers, again to failure and again three sets and no partials at the end.

Smith incline bench press.  Four sets of 5 to 10 reps.

Pec-Dec to failure (between 5 and 10 reps) followed immediately by Smith Machine flat bench press to postivie failure for three sets each with no partials.

One set of of machine sit ups for 60 reps as fast as I can do them. Which isn't that fast at all.  ;D

That's it.  "Modified HIT" or am I just wussing out again?  I think its the latter as I really hate being SORE for more than a day or so.  Today is a doctor day and tomorrow I will do a modified shoulder/arm routine either at home or I will go into work and use that gym.

I hate getting old.  It is a crime that we age.  Be well, lads!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 18, 2015, 02:22:11 AM
Another rest day here.  There are times when I think the most difficult part of HIT is the amount of time off from lifting.  I have trained so freaking hard in 15 minutes that I am literally sore for over a week.  Right now I am trying to find a happy, and productive, medium.

Prior to my fall I would do maybe three sets each and the workout would take perhaps 15 minutes and I would be gasping for air and so sore I didn't want to train for another 7 to 10 days.  I couldn't train for another 7 to 10 days. 

Yesterday I did back and chest and thought about the impending soreness before I started so...I did this.

Three sets of pullups, close grip palms in and all to failure with what I jokingly call "Cutler-Ups" (partials) at the end of each set until I wanted to puke.

Smith machine rows, three sets to failure. No partials.

Palms in medium grip lat pulldowns.  Three sets 10 to 12 reps with partials at the end of the last set.

DB pulllovers, again to failure and again three sets and no partials at the end.

Smith incline bench press.  Four sets of 5 to 10 reps.

Pec-Dec to failure (between 5 and 10 reps) followed immediately by Smith Machine flat bench press to postivie failure for three sets each with no partials.

One set of of machine sit ups for 60 reps as fast as I can do them. Which isn't that fast at all.  ;D

That's it.  "Modified HIT" or am I just wussing out again?  I think its the latter as I really hate being SORE for more than a day or so.  Today is a doctor day and tomorrow I will do a modified shoulder/arm routine either at home or I will go into work and use that gym.

I hate getting old.  It is a crime that we age.  Be well, lads!
good to see you back in there Scotty... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on April 18, 2015, 08:02:31 AM
good to see you back in there Scotty... :)

Thanks, Donny!

Just got back from training at work.  Shoulders, arms and stomach.

Lots of warm ups for my shoulders.  ;D

DB laterals followed immediately Smith Machine shoulder press with a wide grip.  Five progressively "heavier" (LOL!) warm up sets and then one working set to total failure with partials at the end of that final set.

Machine rear delts for three sets of 10 to 12 reps.

Next up - Tri-Sets for biceps.

BB curls followed by alternate DB curls followed by incline DB curls (45 degree angle).  Three of these Tri-Sets without partials.  5 to 20 reps (#s got lower as I progressed).

Triceps -

Tri-Sets of pushdowns to close grip Smith Benches  and back again to pushdowns. 
Three sets no partials.
Finished off with three sets of bodyweight dips.  5 to `12 reps.  Partials at the end of the last set.

Machine sit ups for 60 reps non stop.  It took 1.5 minutes to complete.  I am a wuss.  ;D

Came home, ate a can of tuna fish with mayo and a small baked potato .  And a glass of ice water.

Ahhhhh... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 18, 2015, 08:20:08 AM
Thanks, Donny!

Just got back from training at work.  Shoulders, arms and stomach.

Lots of warm ups for my shoulders.  ;D

DB laterals followed immediately Smith Machine shoulder press with a wide grip.  Five progressively "heavier" (LOL!) warm up sets and then one working set to total failure with partials at the end of that final set.

Machine rear delts for three sets of 10 to 12 reps.

Next up - Tri-Sets for biceps.

BB curls followed by alternate DB curls followed by incline DB curls (45 degree angle).  Three of these Tri-Sets without partials.  5 to 20 reps (#s got lower as I progressed).

Triceps -

Tri-Sets of pushdowns to close grip Smith Benches  and back again to pushdowns. 
Three sets no partials.
Finished off with three sets of bodyweight dips.  5 to `12 reps.  Partials at the end of the last set.

Machine sit ups for 60 reps non stop.  It took 1.5 minutes to complete.  I am a wuss.  ;D

Came home, ate a can of tuna fish with mayo and a small baked potato .  And a glass of ice water.

Ahhhhh... ;D
quite a workout, i like tri sets or Giant sets for a single muscle group. Very high intensity and your tricep workout is very intresting..Dips after a tri set of  Pushdowns and Close grip benches(more of a pre-exhaust)..  i take it by machine sit ups you mean machine crunches?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on April 18, 2015, 08:48:37 AM
quite a workout, i like tri sets or Giant sets for a single muscle group. Very high intensity and your tricep workout is very intresting..Dips after a tri set of  Pushdowns and Close grip benches(more of a pre-exhaust)..  i take it by machine sit ups you mean machine crunches?

Yup.  At home I used to have my son stack a few 25 lb. plates on my chest and then Roman Chair sit ups.   My leg prevents me from doing those now.  Too much pain and stress on it.  Dammit!  ;D

I also like Giant Sets and occasionally employ them for back, chest, shoulders and arms.  Light weight that gets heavy fast!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 18, 2015, 08:53:33 AM
Yup.  At home I used to have my son stack a few 25 lb. plates on my chest and then Roman Chair sit ups.   My leg prevents me from doing those now.  Too much pain and stress on it.  Dammit!  ;D

I also like Giant Sets and occasionally employ them for back, chest, shoulders and arms.  Light weight that gets heavy fast!
yes Giant sets are very advanced and i laugh when people say itīs just a weak "pumping" workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on April 18, 2015, 09:00:07 AM
yes Giant sets are very advanced and i laugh when people say itīs just a weak "pumping" workout.
SS and giant sets can be extremely intense. Used to do them at Koloseum, exhausting but fun.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 18, 2015, 09:08:05 AM
SS and giant sets can be extremely intense. Used to do them at Koloseum, exhausting but fun.
Yes.. SS are my favourite... pre exhaust too. Like Scotty said you can make a weight feel heavy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on April 18, 2015, 09:21:17 AM
yes Giant sets are very advanced and i laugh when people say itīs just a weak "pumping" workout.

True.  I have often told people that if its heavy for you, then its HEAVY!  Don't worry about what others can do.  Heavy is relative to each individuals current level of strength.  We are all strong in our own way but the level of strength is different.  As Mentzer used to say, train to get to your full genetic potential.  Not someone else's. 

When I was young and the squat became my favorite exercise I could easy handle 500+ pounds for 20 reps and more.  People thought it was heavy  but for me, it was light.  I told them it took years to get to that weight and that if it (20 rep sets) worked for me, it would work for them. But few tried the routine because it is brutally HARD.  I liked them.  A lot!

I tried it on bench presses too and discovered back then that whatever weight I could do for 20 reps, it was highly probably that I could do a singe with 100 pounds more.  The most I ever benched was 350.  I never did a single heavy on the squat but the gentleman known as Coach on here and a powerlifter I knew in Florida both estimated (based on my training poundage and rep schemes) that I was capable of at least a 700 pound single at a bodyweight of 250 lbs. (my heaviest ever bodyweight at a height of 6' 1").  Oh lord but I miss my youth!

I digress.  Sorry lads!

 ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 18, 2015, 10:16:46 AM
SS and giant sets can be extremely intense. Used to do them at Koloseum, exhausting but fun.
grueling and sick pump,,,i still do good weight on certain movements in a particular giant set group..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 18, 2015, 10:18:21 AM
grueling and sick pump,,,i still do good weight on certain movements in a particular giant set group..
QUADS ...Steve  ;D ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 18, 2015, 10:20:13 AM
QUADS ...Steve  ;D ?
well  ;D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 18, 2015, 10:22:34 AM
well  ;D...
  ;D you love the pain.. and heavy weights too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on April 18, 2015, 05:04:12 PM
QUADS ...Steve  ;D ?

He has some very, very good  leg development.  I envy him those wheels and his ability to train them so thoroughly.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 18, 2015, 08:21:25 PM
He has some very, very good  leg development.  I envy him those wheels and his ability to train them so thoroughly.
thank you so kindly  :D,,its a nice grind :).
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 18, 2015, 08:33:10 PM
Some thoughts on shoulder problems

I have been having really bad shoulder problems for a long time. I did the many various rotator cuff exercises and it helped somewhat. A visit to my orthopedic surgeon after an MRI said I needed surgery.  My shoulders and traps started to look very soft and atrophied. I couldn't train my chest or my shoulder with heavy weights. My shoulders are still bad but I made a big improvement with something so simple I never really considered. I started to stretch my shoulders in every conceivable direction that I could. After about a month I noticed my pain was much less.  I still had trouble sleeping in some positions. Today training delts and arms I was able to actually do press behind the neck with out pain.  I also did deep dips with just a little pain. I had no power but the crazy pain wasn't there.  Hopefully it will be better with time.

I think the shoulders get really tight with various benching movements. How many great bench press guys have very limited mobility in the shoulder joint?  I also think the push up is one of the healthiest things you can do for the shoulder joint. Your back isn't braced making your joints move in an natural way.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 18, 2015, 08:35:13 PM
Some thoughts on shoulder problems

I have been having really bad shoulder problems for a long time. I did the many various rotator cuff exercises and it helped somewhat. A visit to my orthopedic surgeon after an MRI said I needed surgery.  My shoulders and traps started to look very soft and atrophied. I couldn't train my chest or my shoulder with heavy weights. My shoulders are still bad but I made a big improvement with something so simple I never really considered. I started to stretch my shoulders in every conceivable direction that I could. After about a month I noticed my pain was much less.  I still had trouble sleeping in some positions. Today training delts and arms I was able to actually do press behind the neck with out pain.  I also did deep dips with just a little pain. I had no power but the crazy pain wasn't there.  Hopefully it will be better with time.

I think the shoulders get really tight with various benching movements. How many great bench press guys have very limited mobility in the shoulder joint?  I also think the push up is one of the healthiest things you can do for the shoulder joint. Your back isn't braced making your joints move in an unnatural way.  
glad your better rich ,but dips/behind the neck are killers on weak shoulders ,,be careful...i do both still :)usually each delt/chest day...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 18, 2015, 08:45:27 PM
NJFlex, the crazy thing was I thought my shoulders were bullet proof. I injured one shoulder in my early twenties but I had decades of zero problems. When I reached around 54 it seemed both my shoulders went bad. How at 50, 51, 52, and 53 I had zero problems then both fell apart. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 18, 2015, 08:50:09 PM
NJFlex, the crazy thing was I thought my shoulders were bullet proof. I injured one shoulder in my early twenties but I had decades of zero problems. When I reached around 54 it seemed both my shoulders went bad. How at 50, 51, 52, and 53 I had zero problems then both fell apart. 

Our bodies have limits. It's good to recognize those limits and not push them too hard or for too long. My shoulders were never my strong point. I babied them along and gradually they started to respond. What I found interesting was that they responded better to very controlled movements and lighter weights and I am speaking of ridiculously light weight. More and more I see "the big guys" using lighter weight when working delts. Shoulder injuries take forever to heal.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 19, 2015, 07:26:17 AM
Some thoughts on shoulder problems

I have been having really bad shoulder problems for a long time. I did the many various rotator cuff exercises and it helped somewhat. A visit to my orthopedic surgeon after an MRI said I needed surgery.  My shoulders and traps started to look very soft and atrophied. I couldn't train my chest or my shoulder with heavy weights. My shoulders are still bad but I made a big improvement with something so simple I never really considered. I started to stretch my shoulders in every conceivable direction that I could. After about a month I noticed my pain was much less.  I still had trouble sleeping in some positions. Today training delts and arms I was able to actually do press behind the neck with out pain.  I also did deep dips with just a little pain. I had no power but the crazy pain wasn't there.  Hopefully it will be better with time.

I think the shoulders get really tight with various benching movements. How many great bench press guys have very limited mobility in the shoulder joint?  I also think the push up is one of the healthiest things you can do for the shoulder joint. Your back isn't braced making your joints move in an natural way.  
I agree with you about push ups..great old school move and always a winner. I started playing around with V Gironda style bradford Press and Neider press. bradford press really keeps constant( or as much as you can with a Barbell) constant tension on the whole shoulder area and after a tri set of raises you donīt need a heavy Barbell... ;)  Maybe iīm just being too much of a Deep thinker ... ;D but you know what i mean.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on April 19, 2015, 07:49:22 AM
Some thoughts on shoulder problems

I have been having really bad shoulder problems for a long time. I did the many various rotator cuff exercises and it helped somewhat. A visit to my orthopedic surgeon after an MRI said I needed surgery.  My shoulders and traps started to look very soft and atrophied. I couldn't train my chest or my shoulder with heavy weights. My shoulders are still bad but I made a big improvement with something so simple I never really considered. I started to stretch my shoulders in every conceivable direction that I could. After about a month I noticed my pain was much less.  I still had trouble sleeping in some positions. Today training delts and arms I was able to actually do press behind the neck with out pain.  I also did deep dips with just a little pain. I had no power but the crazy pain wasn't there.  Hopefully it will be better with time.

I think the shoulders get really tight with various benching movements. How many great bench press guys have very limited mobility in the shoulder joint?  I also think the push up is one of the healthiest things you can do for the shoulder joint. Your back isn't braced making your joints move in an natural way.  
I've never had issues with BTN presses but I do recognize that there is more tension in the shoulder girdle from the rotation of the shoulders. Not sure if that would be the safest course for your shoulders.  Another question would be how do you do BTN presses? Seated, standing, smith machine...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 19, 2015, 10:06:54 AM
leg day

hack squat,,wide stance ,,warmed 2 plates for 20,,3/4/5/5.5 plates 12/10/10/10
leg press feet close killer...5/6/7/8 plates ..12/12/10/6
drops extensions 10x10 220-190 3 sets

hams
lying curls 140x15/155x10/160x10/165x10 with help lol..
seated leg curls 180/195/195 sets 10

calves 5 sets seated calf raises
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 20, 2015, 08:02:57 PM
chest yesterday... itīs 5am here now....yawn ;D

Incline DB press (Hammer grip) 4 sets
Incline Flys 4 sets
Flat Db press (pronating hands) 4 sets
Machine flys 4 sets

Cardio running in woods about 50 mins.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 20, 2015, 08:12:21 PM
chest
fdb press 50 warmed x15..65x12/80x10/85x8/75x10
decline x4
inc flyes 50 lb db,,x3x10
guilotine press x3 135-185,,12/10/6
cable crossovers x2 with decline pushups

tris
pushdowns x4
skull crushers pre made bar,,60/70/80
dip machine x3 190-210 sets 12-10
single arm arm pushdowns angled x2x12

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 20, 2015, 08:24:00 PM
chest
fdb press 50 warmed x15..65x12/80x10/85x8/75x10
decline x4
inc flyes 50 lb db,,x3x10
guilotine press x3 135-185,,12/10/6
cable crossovers x2 with decline pushups

tris
pushdowns x4
skull crushers pre made bar,,60/70/80
dip machine x3 190-210 sets 12-10
single arm arm pushdowns angled x2x12

abs
press to neck..nice  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 20, 2015, 08:28:33 PM
press to neck..nice  :)
been mixing it in,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 22, 2015, 07:33:22 AM
Back today..

wide grip chins 4 sets
close grip v bar pulldowns 4 sets
seated wide grip cable rows 4 sets
BB Pullovers 3 sets

seated calf raises 5 sets, incline sit ups 3x30. cardio cycle on mountain bike.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 22, 2015, 07:56:52 AM
WAS OFF LAST NIGHT,,NICE DINNER GROUND TURKEY TACOS/FEW GLASSES WHITE SANGRIA FRUIT CUT UP IN IT  8)..LONG WALK WIFE/KIDS..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 22, 2015, 08:06:30 AM
WAS OFF LAST NIGHT,,NICE DINNER GROUND TURKEY TACOS/FEW GLASSES WHITE SANGRIA FRUIT CUT UP IN IT  8)..LONG WALK WIFE/KIDS..
sounds great..  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 22, 2015, 08:38:51 AM
sounds great..  :)
IT WAS.. :)... 8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 22, 2015, 07:44:39 PM
chins 2 inner/2 outer
t bar rows 2 45's/2 and 25/3/3 and 25...12/10/10/10
low pulley rows 180/190/200
reverse grip narrow pulldowns x3
rope pulls to face seated x3

weighted hypers x3

traps
shrugs x4 185-315 20/15/12/10
2 set dbells to sides 80/90 's

calves 6 sets standing calf raise 200x15/220x12/240x12..200x12.180x15.160x20

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 23, 2015, 07:54:08 PM
chins 2 inner/2 outer
t bar rows 2 45's/2 and 25/3/3 and 25...12/10/10/10
low pulley rows 180/190/200
reverse grip narrow pulldowns x3
rope pulls to face seated x3

weighted hypers x3

traps
shrugs x4 185-315 20/15/12/10
2 set dbells to sides 80/90 's

calves 6 sets standing calf raise 200x15/220x12/240x12..200x12.180x15.160x20

abs
nice one big Stevo... i have been up to my eyes in it and never worked out last night.. today i will train Delts and arms.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 23, 2015, 08:30:07 PM
delts

behind neck press x4
side lateral machine x4 last set drop x3
cable single arm rear delt raise x3
upright rows curl bar x3
arnold twist press db x2

bis
curls 65/85/105/95
seated curl machine single arm at time x3
cable curl single arm x3
hammers x2

forearms
behind back reverse wrist curls x3
cable wrist curls x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 24, 2015, 03:43:49 AM
Thank God iīm off this weekend...was a long week.. i am f*cked.. :D ;D 

Delts/Arms

Tri set ..

Neider press 4 sets
DB side raises 4 sets
Rear Delt machine 4 sets

Bradford press 4 sets

Incline ez bar extensions 5 sets
BB strict curls 5 sets

That was all i did for arms today. just 5 hard sets per ex.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 25, 2015, 06:34:02 AM
pissing down with rain today.. when iīm off work... ??? :(  never mind. if not too heavy later will go running.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 25, 2015, 07:26:17 AM
early a.m. leg workout ,cold morning 38 degrees,stretched out to loosen quads/hams

started extensions..175.....190/220/235/250..sets 12
squats...225x12/275x10/315x10/365 x10,,felt heavish
lying leg press sled..180/200/220 sets 10
stair lunges up/down/up/down x2

hams
stiff legged very slow/stretch reps...135/195/215/235
lying curls 140-155

calves
5 sets leg press toe stretch/flex..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 25, 2015, 10:36:04 AM
early a.m. leg workout ,cold morning 38 degrees,stretched out to loosen quads/hams

started extensions..175.....190/220/235/250..sets 12
squats...225x12/275x10/315x10/365 x10,,felt heavish
lying leg press sled..180/200/220 sets 10
stair lunges up/down/up/down x2

hams
stiff legged very slow/stretch reps...135/195/215/235
lying curls 140-155

calves
5 sets leg press toe stretch/flex..
I will try these Stair lunges on leg day.. probably wonīt be able to sit on the pot the next Day.. ;D lunges really spank my Whole lower body. I like step ups. They work too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 25, 2015, 04:03:33 PM
Did back today. No warm ups listed. Did one set to failure in general.

Power cleans 3 x 3 after those three sets I did 1 x 1.
Deadlifts 1 x 8 (Used double over hand grip with straps.)


Pullups 1 x max
Low V handle seated cable rows 1 x 14
Dumbbell one arm row with knee on bench 1 x 15
Reverse grip pulldown 1 x 12
inverted body weight rows 1 x 8 ( I was so shot I failed at 8)

Stiff leg deadlifts off a block 1 x 8
Hyper extensions holding a 25lbs plate behind my head on old school horizontal hyper bench 1 x 17

weighted floor crunches 1 x 55





Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 26, 2015, 03:16:59 AM
well itīs a quite Day today at the Ponderosa  ;D .. will take a trip into the old town here for a look around and visit a cafe. Talking of the Ponderosa remember Bonanza as a kid. Remember my old man used to say as we pulled up at home in the car, Back to the Ponderosa... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 26, 2015, 09:10:49 AM
Just realized Friday is a Bank holiday in Germany .. the 1st of May... cool. long weekend if not working ;)  That means your son in law will be off too Jay. Might take a Drive to my Big Bro in Frankfurt..mind you when we get together we hit the town... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 26, 2015, 09:07:21 PM
Just realized Friday is a Bank holiday in Germany .. the 1st of May... cool. long weekend if not working ;)  That means your son in law will be off too Jay. Might take a Drive to my Big Bro in Frankfurt..mind you when we get together we hit the town... ;D

I'm not sure he will be off. He's presently in Dayton OH teaching a class and lecturing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 28, 2015, 06:31:37 AM
Chest Today..

Decline Bench press (DB) 4 sets
Decline Flyes 4 sets
Incline BB press 4 sets
Incline Flyes 4 sets

Decline DB press i have not done in a while and Decline Flyes were good too.
Cardio: will go later tonight for a trail run through the wood. About 45 mins and at home some abs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 28, 2015, 06:59:28 AM
CHEST/TRI/ABS

FDB PRESS,,60/70/80/85..12/10/10/8
DECLINE PRESS X3
INC FLYES 45/50/55 10/10/9 OR 10  :P
GUILOTINE PRESS X3 135-185
PECK DECK X3

TRIS SUPERSETS

SKULL CRUSHERS PREMADE CURL BAR WITH ROPE PUSHDOWNS X3

REVERSE GRIP PUSHDOWNS STRAIGHT BAR WITH CABLE KICK BACKS

FINSHED V BAR I HOLD HANDS CLOSE TO TOP PART X3


ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 29, 2015, 07:50:30 AM
Legs.. warm up 20 mins stationary Bike

Front squats 4 sets
Leg press 4 sets
seated leg curls 4 sets
DB stiff legged Deadlifts 4 sets
seated calf raises 5 sets

Crunches SS leg Raises 3 sets. did straight sets Today
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 29, 2015, 03:49:34 PM
Ran 3.3 miles on an off lifting day.  I have to lose 10 pounds. I wonder if it's the beer I drink that's contributing?  ::) Finally had an incredible nice day after a rough winter in NJ.  It was 72F and breezy.  Ran a desolate abandoned rail road trail through the woods. Saw a girl running toward me. She looked a little scared but smiled as I ran by. I know it's scary being in the middle of no where and seeing another person on the trail. 

On a different note since supplements are not regulated in the US does anyone really believe whey isolate is practically lactose free like many put on the label?  I react pretty badly to lactose.  I was looking if my memory serves me Isopure whey isolate and it says on the container lactose free. I'd like to get a container but I don't know if risking explosive runs are worth it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 29, 2015, 03:56:39 PM
True.  I have often told people that if its heavy for you, then its HEAVY!  Don't worry about what others can do.  Heavy is relative to each individuals current level of strength.  We are all strong in our own way but the level of strength is different.  As Mentzer used to say, train to get to your full genetic potential.  Not someone else's. 

When I was young and the squat became my favorite exercise I could easy handle 500+ pounds for 20 reps and more.  People thought it was heavy  but for me, it was light.  I told them it took years to get to that weight and that if it (20 rep sets) worked for me, it would work for them. But few tried the routine because it is brutally HARD.  I liked them.  A lot!

I tried it on bench presses too and discovered back then that whatever weight I could do for 20 reps, it was highly probably that I could do a singe with 100 pounds more.  The most I ever benched was 350.  I never did a single heavy on the squat but the gentleman known as Coach on here and a powerlifter I knew in Florida both estimated (based on my training poundage and rep schemes) that I was capable of at least a 700 pound single at a bodyweight of 250 lbs. (my heaviest ever bodyweight at a height of 6' 1").  Oh lord but I miss my youth!

I digress.  Sorry lads!

 ;D

I hear what you are saying. I have heard more than a few bodybuilders say make a light weight heavy. Took me awhile to grasp the concept. Shorten the rest between sets. Use a full range of motion. Slow down the rep cadence.  Use higher reps.  Wilf Sylvester said he used 400 reps of free hand squats with leg extensions and leg curls for the 1975 Mr. Universe.  He found the free hand squats ripped him up and built up his thighs. If a light weight Mr. Universe winner can use body weight squats there is no need to be embarrassed by using say 135lbs for 4 sets of 15 reps in the squat going ass to grass in a controlled movement.  I've seen huge bench press guys reduced to nothing by just push ups.  Like Flex recently said on his interview with Ric Drascin. It's how hard you work not the weight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on April 29, 2015, 11:43:26 PM
Ran 3.3 miles on an off lifting day.  I have to lose 10 pounds. I wonder if it's the beer I drink that's contributing?  ::) Finally had an incredible nice day after a rough winter in NJ.  It was 72F and breezy.  Ran a desolate abandoned rail road trail through the woods. Saw a girl running toward me. She looked a little scared but smiled as I ran by. I know it's scary being in the middle of no where and seeing another person on the trail. 

On a different note since supplements are not regulated in the US does anyone really believe whey isolate is practically lactose free like many put on the label?  I react pretty badly to lactose.  I was looking if my memory serves me Isopure whey isolate and it says on the container lactose free. I'd like to get a container but I don't know if risking explosive runs are worth it.

I'm losing weight the chemical way. It's actually a side effect from Welbutrin which the doctor prescribed about three weeks ago for depression. Every day, when I weigh myself in the morning I am down between 1/2 lb. and 1 lb. The lowest I am going to let myself get before I will have to do something to stop the weight loss is 175 lbs. This morning, I weighed 183.5 lbs. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 30, 2015, 07:45:27 AM
Back ...

Front chins 4 x max
V bar pulldowns 4 sets
Barbell rows 4 sets
Barbell Pullovers 3 sets 

I finished with 30 mins interval training on the Crosser.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on April 30, 2015, 08:47:28 AM
back,traps,abs,calves

chins wide x2x12,underhanded grip x2 x12
bent over rows 135/185/225
hammer pulldowns underhand grip,,2 plates side x3 x10
seated row chest to pad x3
rope standind stretch pulldowns x3..love these

traps shrugs,,,some banter on training board sf1900 thread on training ,'ritch'mentioned 2 trap movements NOT NEEDED,I PREFER 2 AT TIMES
shrugs 135 x20,225X15,275X12,295X12
CABLE SIDE SHRUGS X3'SQUEEZE THESE'

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3

CALVES 3 SETS 4 SET DROPS 10 REPS PER DROP 200/180/160/140

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on April 30, 2015, 11:12:43 PM
back,traps,abs,calves

chins wide x2x12,underhanded grip x2 x12
bent over rows 135/185/225
hammer pulldowns underhand grip,,2 plates side x3 x10
seated row chest to pad x3
rope standind stretch pulldowns x3..love these

traps shrugs,,,some banter on training board sf1900 thread on training ,'ritch'mentioned 2 trap movements NOT NEEDED,I PREFER 2 AT TIMES
shrugs 135 x20,225X15,275X12,295X12
CABLE SIDE SHRUGS X3'SQUEEZE THESE'

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3

CALVES 3 SETS 4 SET DROPS 10 REPS PER DROP 200/180/160/140

ABS
i agree.. i only really do close grip upright rows, sometimes Db shrugs. Reverse overhead Dumbbell laterals, which you also do Steve are good too... ala Bertil Fox.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 01, 2015, 08:56:16 AM
DELT/BI/FOREARMS...TELLING U SWITCH TO BI DAY FROM BACK DAY TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE FOR ME,PUMP WISE..

I USED HAMMER BEHIND NECK PRESS,,I GENERALLY HATE THIS MACHINE YOUR LEANED BACK SITTING ON BAD ANGLE 'WHATEVER'DID IT ANYWAY
DID 4 SETS WORKED UP TO 3 25'S PER SIDE,LAST SET DROPPED TO 2 25'S SIDE BUT DID SINGLE ARM AT A TIME.

SIDE LATERAL MACHINE X4 70-100 STACK SETS OF  10

BENT OVER  SEATED LATERALS X3 25/30/30 X10 REPS

UNDERHANDED FRONT RAISE PRE MADE CURL BAR 50/60/70 SAME REP SCHEME

2 SETS FINISH TWIST DB PRESS 40/45 DB SETS 10 LOVE THESE

BIS
CURLS '45 LB BAR ALWAYS' 65/85/95/105
INC DB CURL 30/35/40 10REPS
2 SETS SINGLE ARM CABLE CURL
2 SETS HAMMERS 40/45'S

FOREARMS
WRIST CURLS REVERSE BEHIND BACK
CABLE REVERSE CURLS X4
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 01, 2015, 09:07:35 AM
DELT/BI/FOREARMS...TELLING U SWITCH TO BI DAY FROM BACK DAY TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE FOR ME,PUMP WISE..

I USED HAMMER BEHIND NECK PRESS,,I GENERALLY HATE THIS MACHINE YOUR LEANED BACK SITTING ON BAD ANGLE 'WHATEVER'DID IT ANYWAY
DID 4 SETS WORKED UP TO 3 25'S PER SIDE,LAST SET DROPPED TO 2 25'S SIDE BUT DID SINGLE ARM AT A TIME.

SIDE LATERAL MACHINE X4 70-100 STACK SETS OF  10

BENT OVER  SEATED LATERALS X3 25/30/30 X10 REPS

UNDERHANDED FRONT RAISE PRE MADE CURL BAR 50/60/70 SAME REP SCHEME

2 SETS FINISH TWIST DB PRESS 40/45 DB SETS 10 LOVE THESE

BIS
CURLS '45 LB BAR ALWAYS' 65/85/95/105
INC DB CURL 30/35/40 10REPS
2 SETS SINGLE ARM CABLE CURL
2 SETS HAMMERS 40/45'S

FOREARMS
WRIST CURLS REVERSE BEHIND BACK
CABLE REVERSE CURLS X4
Hammer machine i actually liked. More of a front /side delt movememt but really all delt. think yourself lucky man..got no Hammer machines  >:(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 01, 2015, 10:30:32 AM
Hammer machine i actually liked. More of a front /side delt movememt but really all delt. think yourself lucky man..got no Hammer machines  >:(
:)...MAYBE YOUR RIGHT I USED TO DO IT YRS AGO,,ILL GO BACK AND FORTH WITH IT THANKS..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 01, 2015, 10:39:28 AM
:)...MAYBE YOUR RIGHT I USED TO DO IT YRS AGO,,ILL GO BACK AND FORTH WITH IT THANKS..
I learn from you too ..  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 01, 2015, 10:15:27 PM
This thread is biased against young people. Biased subforum reported.  :D :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 01, 2015, 10:33:44 PM
This thread is biased against young people. Biased subforum reported.  :D :D

Even the great Budda was biased
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 01, 2015, 10:38:29 PM
This thread is biased against young people. Biased subforum reported.  :D :D

Do you believe it is biased against you....are you a young person?  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 02, 2015, 07:34:36 AM
did a superset arm workout today at Home.. :)

Seated DB curls SS incline ez bar extensions 3x8-10(3 supersets)

BB curls SS Close Grip Bench press 3x8-10

Db concentration curls SS BB  tricep kickback...Aint done these BB kickbacks in ages really great move ;) 3x8-10

no cardio today...iīm in Monging Mode today... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 02, 2015, 07:45:15 AM
Even the great Budda was biased

Yes, but this is GB. We rise above it all.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 02, 2015, 07:46:56 AM
Do you believe it is biased against you....are you a young person?  :)

I bet you'd like a young, stud like myself, huh?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 02, 2015, 07:49:45 AM
About to hit arms (3-4 sets, 12-15 reps).

Biceps:
Machine preacher curls
Barbell curls
Hammer curls
Cable curls

Triceps:
Pressdowns
Overhead extensions (cables)
Smith Machine close grip bench press
Underhand extensions

My elbow is finally healed from injury (tendonitis), so not doing many free weight movements for triceps until I feel safe.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 02, 2015, 07:59:21 AM
About to hit arms (3-4 sets, 12-15 reps).

Biceps:
Machine preacher curls
Barbell curls
Hammer curls
Cable curls

Triceps:
Pressdowns
Overhead extensions (cables)
Smith Machine close grip bench press
Underhand extensions

My elbow is finally healed from injury (tendonitis), so not doing many free weight movements for triceps until I feel safe.
yes probably better. I would stick to Close grip benches(which you have) and Dips. compound stuff but if you can do cable work then go for it. Tri workout looks good though going to hit it all. i would maybe just do pressdowns OR underhand extensions but not both as they both hit the medial and outer heads
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 02, 2015, 09:15:20 AM
'Armageddon' on the balcony of my gym,

8 supersets of laying single arm extentions & seated single bicep curls
2 30+ rep drop down sets of cable extentions & cable curls
Some arm stretching afterwards, great pump :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 02, 2015, 10:15:10 AM
I bet you'd like a young, stud like myself, huh?

Sure, you bet.  ::)

Now sonny how about you stay on topic. If you don't have a workout routine to post or something else exercise related, you are right.....we don't want you here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 02, 2015, 11:47:00 AM
Sure, you bet.  ::)

Now sonny how about you stay on topic. If you don't have a workout routine to post or something else exercise related, you are right.....we don't want you here.

Look above. I did. Keep up with the conversation.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 02, 2015, 12:30:28 PM
Look above. I did. Keep up with the conversation.

Yes you did, my apologies.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on May 02, 2015, 02:05:10 PM
Next week I'm thinking about switching to a bbing style workout for a few weeks. Lighter weights 8-10 reps. :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 02, 2015, 03:08:01 PM
Next week I'm thinking about switching to a bbing style workout for a few weeks. Lighter weights 8-10 reps. :o

Outed! ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on May 02, 2015, 03:48:00 PM
Outed! ;D
Let's see if I can get "addicted to the pump"!!! :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 02, 2015, 03:50:31 PM
Let's see if I can get "addicted to the pump"!!! :D

(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/7d/7df4637bab26adc59e92e7e0d53a9376decc295afa935cb3c9b2e14f9f995716.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 02, 2015, 05:19:16 PM
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/7d/7df4637bab26adc59e92e7e0d53a9376decc295afa935cb3c9b2e14f9f995716.jpg)
thats chaos in few wks ,even the hair :P....go big man...

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 02, 2015, 05:28:30 PM
thats chaos in few wks ,even the hair :P....go big man...



Is that love boat's bartender Go4it in that gif?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on May 02, 2015, 05:33:21 PM
thats chaos in few wks ,even the hair :P....go big man...


I already have the wood. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 02, 2015, 07:30:17 PM
TOMORROW IS SHOULDER DAY. BEFORE EVERYONES EYES, I AM TRANSFORMING INTO A BEAST!! A GOD AMONG MEN!

STANDING BARBELL PRESSES
SIDE RAISES
ARNOLD PRESSES (LIGHT)
UPRIGHT ROWS
REVERSE PEC-DECK

DUMBBELL SHRUGS (FRONT)
BARBELL SHRUGS BEHIND BACK

LOVE,

SF1900
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2015, 01:09:34 AM
I already have the wood. ;D
yeah...yeah...  8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 03, 2015, 05:25:06 AM
Quick 40 min Run today through Woods
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 03, 2015, 06:45:28 AM
TOMORROW IS SHOULDER DAY. BEFORE EVERYONES EYES, I AM TRANSFORMING INTO A BEAST!! A GOD AMONG MEN!

STANDING BARBELL PRESSES
SIDE RAISES
ARNOLD PRESSES (LIGHT)
UPRIGHT ROWS
REVERSE PEC-DECK

DUMBBELL SHRUGS (FRONT)
BARBELL SHRUGS BEHIND BACK

LOVE,

SF1900


SF isn't a normal guy, he's a Man With A Plan..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 03, 2015, 07:31:26 AM
SF isn't a normal guy, he's a Man With A Plan..
yeah,,,,leaving for leg day ,carbed and ready to go...post later in agony  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 03, 2015, 07:50:02 AM
SF isn't a normal guy, he's a Man With A Plan..

IM AN ANIMAL!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 03, 2015, 08:17:37 AM
IM AN ANIMAL!!

Destroy those weights brah, and make sure you take the right pre workout formula!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on May 03, 2015, 10:01:40 AM
TOMORROW IS SHOULDER DAY. BEFORE EVERYONES EYES, I AM TRANSFORMING INTO A BEAST!! A GOD AMONG MEN!

STANDING BARBELL PRESSES
SIDE RAISES
ARNOLD PRESSES (LIGHT)
UPRIGHT ROWS
REVERSE PEC-DECK

DUMBBELL SHRUGS (FRONT)
BARBELL SHRUGS BEHIND BACK

LOVE,

SF1900

How'd this work out for you?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 03, 2015, 02:44:51 PM
How'd this work out for you?

It was wonderful. The best experience ever!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 03, 2015, 06:41:43 PM
legs
leg press warmed few sets 2 and 4 plates side .worked 5/6/7/7 plates sets
hack squat 3/4/5 plates a side sets
walking lunges 80 lb bar x2
extensions 220/230/230 sets 12,last set 205 x20 sick pump at this point

hams
sdl 135/185/205/225
seated leg curls 180/195/195/195

calves
5 sets seated calf raise

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on May 03, 2015, 08:13:17 PM
legs
leg press warmed few sets 2 and 4 plates side .worked 5/6/7/7 plates sets
hack squat 3/4/5 plates a side sets
walking lunges 80 lb bar x2
extensions 220/230/230 sets 12,last set 205 x20 sick pump at this point

hams
sdl 135/185/205/225
seated leg curls 180/195/195/195

calves
5 sets seated calf raise


Hack squats on the machine kill my knees. :(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 03, 2015, 10:22:54 PM
legs
leg press warmed few sets 2 and 4 plates side .worked 5/6/7/7 plates sets
hack squat 3/4/5 plates a side sets
walking lunges 80 lb bar x2
extensions 220/230/230 sets 12,last set 205 x20 sick pump at this point

hams
sdl 135/185/205/225
seated leg curls 180/195/195/195

calves
5 sets seated calf raise



In my dreams.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 04, 2015, 05:56:50 AM
In my dreams.
LOL,,,I'M USUALLY RUNNING ON FULL OCTANE WITH THOSE SETS AND WEIGHT #'S ...I WAS A LITTLE POOPED YESTERDAY DURING AND FOLLOWING IT,I WAS PUMPED EVEN LAST NIGHT STILL..I'M HURTING TODAY...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 04, 2015, 07:30:25 AM
chest ..

Incline BB press 4 sets
incline DB Flyes 4 sets
Decline DB press 4 sets
Decline DB flyes 4 sets

machine crunches 3 sets bench leg raises 3 sets , . Seated calf raises 5 sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 04, 2015, 10:33:27 AM
chest ..

Incline BB press 4 sets
incline DB Flyes 4 sets
Decline DB press 4 sets
Decline DB flyes 4 sets

machine crunches 3 sets bench leg raises 3 sets , . Seated calf raises 5 sets.

I also did chest today. 4 sets

Incline BB press
Hammer Strength Flat Press
Incline Flyes
Dips
Pushups
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 04, 2015, 07:49:29 PM
chest

inc press x4 135-205
seated press machine x4
decline dbells x3 65lb's sets 10
cable crossovers x4
dips x2x20

tris
lying extensions pre made curl bae 60/70/80
pushdowns x3
lying across body db extensions 20/25/25 10/8/8
reverse grip pushdowns x2x15

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 04, 2015, 10:15:32 PM
10 supersets decline DB press & DB pull over
1 drop down set kneeled cable flyes
some stretchwork
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 05, 2015, 05:33:57 AM
10 supersets decline DB press & DB pull over
1 drop down set kneeled cable flyes
some stretchwork
interesting...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 05, 2015, 07:42:32 AM
interesting...

Simplicity of peace, give it a try :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 05, 2015, 09:26:21 AM
Legs ...

leg extensions 3 sets
Leg curls  3 sets

Front squats 4 sets
Step ups with Dumbbells 4 sets
Stiff legged Deadlifts 4 sets

standing smith machine calf raises 5 sets. step ups are a great all round exercise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 05, 2015, 09:33:16 AM
Simplicity of peace, give it a try :)
I once knew a Guy who just did BB squats for legs for high sets, he had not bad overall development. Hammies were not too bad either. He squated deep as i remember. some people can build muscle just getting out of bed.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 05, 2015, 12:26:36 PM
I once knew a Guy who just did BB squats for legs for high sets, he had not bad overall development. Hammies were not too bad either. He squated deep as i remember. some people can build muscle just getting out of bed.. ;D

In case you go deep, then those hamstrings have to grow. It's ok when someone prefers a ton of exercises, but there's no need. Just study anatomy & muscle physiology; you can train any muscle completely with 3 exercises or less.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 05, 2015, 05:05:52 PM
Trained back and abs today.

Pull-ups, 5 sets 12-6 reps
Hammer low cable rows, 4 sets 12-6 reps
Hammer cable rows (mimics bench rows), 4 sets 12-6 reps
Nautilus low back machine, 4 sets, 12-6 reps
Nautilus crunches, 4 sets 20-15 reps
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 06, 2015, 05:29:14 AM
Hack squats on the machine kill my knees. :(

I know what you mean. It depends on how the machine is made. Some I can use and others are a knee killer.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 06, 2015, 07:08:59 AM
Trained back and abs today.

Pull-ups, 5 sets 12-6 reps
Hammer low cable rows, 4 sets 12-6 reps
Hammer cable rows (mimics bench rows), 4 sets 12-6 reps
Nautilus low back machine, 4 sets, 12-6 reps
Nautilus crunches, 4 sets 20-15 reps
great you are back in Training Jay....always pumpin
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 06, 2015, 10:19:34 AM
HAD BAD DAY AT WORK YESTERDAY,BLEW UP AT BOSSES,SHOOK THE WINDOWS LOL AND POUNDED DESK,WALKED OUT DONE,MY WIFE WAS UPSET AS WELL DUE TO CHANCES UNEMPLOYMENT 'ZRRO'WHEN U QUIT,,I'M A GOOD WORKER VERY THOROUGH BUT I HAVE SHORT FUSE AND IT REARED ITS HEAD AFTER 3 YRS,,I CALLED MY MAIN BOSS TO APOLIGIZE,THEN CALLED HIGHER BOSS WHO 'S DESK I POUNDED TOLD HIM SORRY AND I NEED JOB..BASICALLY ITS ONE SIDED HERE I HAVE A WOMEN I WORK WITH THAT CAN COME AND GO AS PLEASE,DO WHATEVER,INSULT CUSTOMERS AND GETS AWAY..I WANT TO LEAVE EVENTUALLY BUT HAVE TO GET ANOTHER POSITION BEFORE DOING SO...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 06, 2015, 11:46:06 AM
HAD BAD DAY AT WORK YESTERDAY,BLEW UP A T BOSSES,SHOOK THE WINDOWS LOL AND POUNDED DESK,WALKED OUT DONE,MY WIFE WAS UPSET AS WELL DUE TO CHANCES UNEMPLOYMENT 'ZRRO'WHEN U QUIT,,I'M A GOOD WORKER VERY THOROUGH BUT I HAVE SHORT FUSE AND IT REARED ITS HEAD AFTER 3 YRS,,I CALLED MY MAIN BOSS TO APOLIGIZE,THEN CALLED HIGHER BOSS WHO 'S DESK I POUNDED TOLD HIM SORRY AND I NEED JOB..BASICALLY ITS ONE SIDED HERE I HAVE A WOMEN I WORK WITH THAT CAN COME AND GO AS PLEASE,DO WHATEVER,INSULT CUSTOMERS AND GETS AWAY..I WANT TO LEAVE EVENTUALLY BUT HAVE TO GET ANOTHER POSITION BEFORE DOING SO...
I think we have all had this experience...sometimes you have to say your piece. Look for another job. Hope it works out Steve
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on May 06, 2015, 12:13:34 PM
HAD BAD DAY AT WORK YESTERDAY,BLEW UP AT BOSSES,SHOOK THE WINDOWS LOL AND POUNDED DESK,WALKED OUT DONE,MY WIFE WAS UPSET AS WELL DUE TO CHANCES UNEMPLOYMENT 'ZRRO'WHEN U QUIT,,I'M A GOOD WORKER VERY THOROUGH BUT I HAVE SHORT FUSE AND IT REARED ITS HEAD AFTER 3 YRS,,I CALLED MY MAIN BOSS TO APOLIGIZE,THEN CALLED HIGHER BOSS WHO 'S DESK I POUNDED TOLD HIM SORRY AND I NEED JOB..BASICALLY ITS ONE SIDED HERE I HAVE A WOMEN I WORK WITH THAT CAN COME AND GO AS PLEASE,DO WHATEVER,INSULT CUSTOMERS AND GETS AWAY..I WANT TO LEAVE EVENTUALLY BUT HAVE TO GET ANOTHER POSITION BEFORE DOING SO...
Damn. Glad you don't work for me. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 06, 2015, 12:36:30 PM
DESTROYED BACK!!!

Workout Routine

(http://body-engineers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/WIDE-GRIP-CHINS-TO-THE-FRONT-OPTIONAL.jpg)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c5/62/38/c5623879396f55cc63cf2f3cf23b0453.jpg)

(http://produmbbellworkouts.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/dumbbell-rows.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2013/temple-of-strength-2.jpg)

(http://www.supplementsfuel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/dumbell-pullover-exercise1.jpg)

lower back

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2013/ab-abominations-3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 06, 2015, 12:40:38 PM
HAD BAD DAY AT WORK YESTERDAY,BLEW UP AT BOSSES,SHOOK THE WINDOWS LOL AND POUNDED DESK,WALKED OUT DONE,MY WIFE WAS UPSET AS WELL DUE TO CHANCES UNEMPLOYMENT 'ZRRO'WHEN U QUIT,,I'M A GOOD WORKER VERY THOROUGH BUT I HAVE SHORT FUSE AND IT REARED ITS HEAD AFTER 3 YRS,,I CALLED MY MAIN BOSS TO APOLIGIZE,THEN CALLED HIGHER BOSS WHO 'S DESK I POUNDED TOLD HIM SORRY AND I NEED JOB..BASICALLY ITS ONE SIDED HERE I HAVE A WOMEN I WORK WITH THAT CAN COME AND GO AS PLEASE,DO WHATEVER,INSULT CUSTOMERS AND GETS AWAY..I WANT TO LEAVE EVENTUALLY BUT HAVE TO GET ANOTHER POSITION BEFORE DOING SO...

Since she's a coworker, one of several things could happen. She'll eventually get canned for her lack of work ethic or "she's sleeping with the boss", and  eventually the affair will end and she'll be gone. Another possibility is that she's got something on one of the bosses, like threating him or her with sexual harassment, or she knows about something that could cause problems in which case you'd just have to wait her out. She may decide to move on, or the boss will say enough is enough and take a chance by firing her.

Don't let this woman put your job at risk. By complaining to your bosses you've put them on notice about her job performance. If enough coworkers complain, her supervisor will hopefully take some action.

It is far easier to find another position while your employed. You don't have to defend your decision to quit your old job and in the case of blowing up at the boss, risk not getting a good reference. Outbursts such as the one you had, will only hurt you. If your feeling really fed up with the situation, pretend you are sick and leave for the day, this will give you a chance to cool off enough to where you can think and behave more rationally.

I know these things are easier said then done. I've had to learn the hard way to curb my sometimes explosive temper so as to not get fired for it. It's a pain when something happens that sets you off, but sucking it up beats unemployment any day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 06, 2015, 12:51:27 PM
THANKS GUYS FOR FEEDBACK..MY WIFE REALLY HAS THE SAY IN THIS AND IT WAS NOT GOOD,,10 YRS MARRIAGE SHE IS A NURSE AND IVY LEAGUE GIRL,,SHE WILL NOT STAND FOR MY SHIT,I AM A HOTHEADED I T A LI AN.... ;D..CIAO COMPARE'S,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 06, 2015, 01:07:24 PM
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 06, 2015, 01:45:14 PM

:)PREGO..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on May 06, 2015, 02:51:38 PM
Notice anything weird in this pic ???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 06, 2015, 02:55:40 PM
Notice anything weird in this pic ???
yeah sf1900 looks a bit like yates...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 06, 2015, 03:31:00 PM
yeah sf1900 looks a bit like yates...

I am probably just as wide as him  :D :D :D

BARNDOOR LIKE BACK AND SHOULDERS, LIKE JASON GENOVA.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 06, 2015, 04:10:14 PM
Notice anything weird in this pic ???

Looks like a plate has dropped... (say my name, say my name!)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on May 06, 2015, 06:17:53 PM
I am probably just as wide as him  :D :D :D

BARNDOOR LIKE BACK AND SHOULDERS, LIKE JASON GENOVA.
::)

Looks like a plate has dropped... (say my name, say my name!)
Yeah looks like 275 on one end and 315 on the other. Funny
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 06, 2015, 08:01:07 PM
back
chins wide x2 inner x2 sets 12
tbar row elavated chest to pad 2 plates to 2 plates 25  3 sets
behind neck pulldowns x3
low cables rows x3 180/195/195 sets 10
single arm standing cable pulldowns x3

weighted hypers 45 lb plate sets 12-15


shrugs
135/225/275/295/315 20/15/12/12/10

abs 5 sets crunch roller 40/30/30/30/40

calves 3 sets drops 200/280/160/140 sets 10 per drop'painful'
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 06, 2015, 08:06:54 PM
Notice anything weird in this pic ???
yeah his grip...should be underhand, supinated ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 06, 2015, 08:25:59 PM
t thought I was going light yesterday. Today I can barely lift my arms over my head without feeling a lot of pain. My lats are very sore. My lower back is pretty sore too, but not in a bad way. Today I should have worked delts and other shoulder muscles. This is pretty hard to do when you cannot lift your arms. Overhead presses seemed out of the question. The only body part I worked out yesterday that doesn't hurt are my abs....strange. It looks like my trek back to working out is going to get off to a slower start than I thought it would. I'm thinking every other day until my body adapts.

Some little voice in my head kept saying to me today, welcome to being almost 71 years old. In my head I responded with, "fuck that noise."  ;D

Oregon....it's almost 8:30 p.m. and it is still fairly light out. In another month or two it will be 9:00 p.m. before the sun completely sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 07, 2015, 06:18:34 AM
Shoulders.....

Tri set
Front,side,rear lateral raises 5 sets
Seated db press 5sets
Close grip bb upright rows 5sets

Crunches SS with leg raises/ cardio 40 mins interval program on the stationary bike.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 07, 2015, 07:17:29 AM
Shoulders.....

Tri set
Front,side,rear lateral raises 5 sets
Seated db press 5sets
Close grip bb upright rows 5sets

Crunches SS with leg raises/ cardio 40 mins interval program on the stationary bike.
NICE
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 07, 2015, 07:26:57 AM
NICE
I liked doing 5 sets, normally do 3or 4...Tri sets blasted my shoulders and even traps raising higher than shoulder level on the front/side raises
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on May 07, 2015, 09:44:03 AM
yeah his grip...should be underhand, supinated ;)
Underhanded grip always hurt my elbows.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 07, 2015, 10:19:14 AM
Underhanded grip always hurt my elbows.
yes,,,whatever that stress that's pulled from elbow to forearm 'tendons,placed that little bit over time..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Dr Dutch on May 07, 2015, 05:18:42 PM
Looks like a plate has dropped... (say my name, say my name!)
Dorian never dropped plates......literally that is. That why he may have been the toughest mr O ever...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Dr Dutch on May 07, 2015, 05:19:53 PM
10 supersets decline DB press & DB pull over
1 drop down set kneeled cable flyes
some stretchwork
old school nonsense.....you know that, DP. ::)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Dr Dutch on May 07, 2015, 05:21:16 PM
10 supersets decline DB press & DB pull over
1 drop down set kneeled cable flyes
some stretchwork
old school nonsense...you know this, DP.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 07, 2015, 05:43:11 PM
old school nonsense.....you know that, DP. ::)

old school nonsense...you know this, DP.

You've got me confused now, is it 'this' or 'that'?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 08, 2015, 09:20:15 AM
 gave donny's delt workout try,,,

5 sets db press

5 sets tri sets side/fr/rear delt raises

5 sets uprights

bi's

curls straight bar  x4 65-105
seated single arm curls on bi machine 'scott curl'
2 sets cable curls single
2 sets hammers x2

forearms x4 reverse cable wrist curls
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 08, 2015, 03:24:08 PM
I really screwed up. I thought I was sore on Wednesday, on Thursday I couldn't even bend my arms, much less lift them over my head. Today, they and my back are starting to feel better. Maybe I'll only do part of my shoulder workout, since using pussy weights still killed me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 09, 2015, 12:17:03 AM
gave donny's delt workout try,,,

5 sets db press

5 sets tri sets side/fr/rear delt raises

5 sets uprights

bi's

curls straight bar  x4 65-105
seated single arm curls on bi machine 'scott curl'
2 sets cable curls single
2 sets hammers x2

forearms x4 reverse cable wrist curls

just donīt expect me to do your Quadzilla leg blast Bro... ;D

Arms last night, stayed with supersets... started with incline curls and incline tri extensions.. really worked well..

incline Db curls SS Incline Tri Extensions 3 sets...8-10 reps
close grip chins(weighted) SS Close grip Benches 3 sets...8-10 reps
concentration curls(cable) SS cable kickbacks 3 sets...15 reps

Fast arm routine. nothing fancy just basic exercises that work for me. always think of Steve reeves when doing incline curls and i offset my grip on the Bells so my little finger is against the inside plate. Really makes the supination more natural. No cardio i was too tired  :'(

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 09, 2015, 12:18:26 AM
I really screwed up. I thought I was sore on Wednesday, on Thursday I couldn't even bend my arms, much less lift them over my head. Today, they and my back are starting to feel better. Maybe I'll only do part of my shoulder workout, since using pussy weights still killed me.
take it easy... but i know the feeling Jay.. you always feel it a couple of Days after
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 09, 2015, 12:45:34 AM
take it easy... but i know the feeling Jay.. you always feel it a couple of Days after

Yeah well, it's punishment I probably deserve for slacking off these last several months.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 09, 2015, 12:55:43 AM
Yeah well, it's punishment I probably deserve for slacking off these last several months.
Jay you are always in shape and lean.. i drove past a guy i used to know the other Day and he is younger than me, about 45/46.. he was walking with a frame on wheels to aid him. Not sure what you call them, mainly for very old people too frail to walk.. he looked terrible. He was always overweight when i knew him but now is just obese.. he always ate Chicken dippers and drank 4 to 5 bottles of cola when at work.. :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 09, 2015, 07:24:57 AM
Jay you are always in shape and lean.. i drove past a guy i used to know the other Day and he is younger than me, about 45/46.. he was walking with a frame on wheels to aid him. Not sure what you call them, mainly for very old people too frail to walk.. he looked terrible. He was always overweight when i knew him but now is just obese.. he always ate Chicken dippers and drank 4 to 5 bottles of cola when at work.. :o
:-\,,,shame
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 09, 2015, 07:29:29 AM
legs  early still asleep when got to gym lol...no food either ..i like empty stomach leg days if i could...

leg press warmed up 1 and 3 plates,,then worked 5/6/7
hacks 3/4/5 plates per set 10 reps
walking lunges 50 lb db x2
extensions 205/220/235/245

hams
sldl dbells 60/70/80/90
seated leg curls 180/195/195


calves 5 sets seated calf raise work heavy and high reps and various reps'full/half/bottom portion to mid 'start point..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 09, 2015, 07:44:26 AM
:-\,,,shame
yes a shame.. he was ex Army too and worked with us or for the MOD (Army) but was a Clerk in the Army. A fat waste of space. I heard he only got employed because as a clerk he had contacts. I never really had anything against him myself but he was disliked big time. He did night shifts to avoid the trouble. Not a bad guy just .. he was a pervert and when the women came in to camp on ID checks he perved. Got complaints too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 09, 2015, 11:56:51 AM
3-4 sets of each exercise!!

Flat bench press
Incline Flyes
Hammer strength press
Dips
Cable Crossovers
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 09, 2015, 05:36:17 PM
Yesterday was legs. No warm ups listed.

Squats 2 x 8 then 1 x 1 (legs are shot from all the running I'm doing.)
leg press 2 x 12
leg extensions 2 x 20
standing leg curl 2  x 12

Single dumbbell side ab move 1 x 15
hanging leg raise 2 x max
ab wheel roll out 1 x max
machine crunches 2 x 25

leg press calf 2 x 20
seated calf 2 x 15

Neck work.

Feeling weak from all the distance running I'm doing. Getting a skinny look to myself and I know I'm burning muscle in addition to fat off. I get on these running kicks from time to time and now is one of them. I'm sure when I decrease the running at some point I'll start gaining lean muscle back quick. 

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 09, 2015, 10:28:46 PM
Yesterday was legs. No warm ups listed.

Squats 2 x 8 then 1 x 1 (legs are shot from all the running I'm doing.)
leg press 2 x 12
leg extensions 2 x 20
standing leg curl 2  x 12

Single dumbbell side ab move 1 x 15
hanging leg raise 2 x max
ab wheel roll out 1 x max
machine crunches 2 x 25

leg press calf 2 x 20
seated calf 2 x 15

Neck work.

Feeling weak from all the distance running I'm doing. Getting a skinny look to myself and I know I'm burning muscle in addition to fat off. I get on these running kicks from time to time and now is one of them. I'm sure when I decrease the running at some point I'll start gaining lean muscle back quick. 



When I first started Wellbutrin, it accelerated weight loss to the point I was getting concerned. I shouldn't have because it has leveled off now. I am not able to run right now, so diet is the next best thing. Some days are more successful than others. After years of wanting to be big, it's a complete reversal for me to want to be lean. The plus is I feel better lean.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 10, 2015, 05:47:56 AM
When I first started Wellbutrin, it accelerated weight loss to the point I was getting concerned. I shouldn't have because it has leveled off now. I am not able to run right now, so diet is the next best thing. Some days are more successful than others. After years of wanting to be big, it's a complete reversal for me to want to be lean. The plus is I feel better lean.

As a kid in school I was always the skinniest kid in class. I always wanted to be big and  I used those unhealthful weight gain protein shakes for decades. I wish I realized that having a genetic disposition to be lean was a blessing instead of a curse. Now with age I gain weight way to easy. It's a fight to lose weight. I also wonder the harm I caused inside of my arteries drinking all those unhealthy gain weight shakes. Back in the day they were just filled with fat. Many young kids involved with bodybuilding think the perma bulker look that the walk around with most of the year is a good look. I think it looks unhealthy and can't compare to looking lean most of the year.

You're right, looking lean and muscular is rare with age unless you're foolish enough to be still risking health into your 50's and beyond.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 10, 2015, 06:10:36 AM
Pythons today,

8 Super sets of incline DB curls & incline DB extentions, 12 reps
1 Drop down set cable curls, 30+ reps
1 Drop down set kneeled cable extentions, 30+ reps
Some light weighted arm stretches
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 10, 2015, 12:02:53 PM
As a kid in school I was always the skinniest kid in class. I always wanted to be big and  I used those unhealthful weight gain protein shakes for decades. I wish I realized that having a genetic disposition to be lean was a blessing instead of a curse. Now with age I gain weight way to easy. It's a fight to lose weight. I also wonder the harm I caused inside of my arteries drinking all those unhealthy gain weight shakes. Back in the day they were just filled with fat. Many young kids involved with bodybuilding think the perma bulker look that the walk around with most of the year is a good look. I think it looks unhealthy and can't compare to looking lean most of the year.

You're right, looking lean and muscular is rare with age unless you're foolish enough to be still risking health into your 50's and beyond.

I've always maintained the idea that if you take in less calories then you use up, you'll lose weight. Like anything else, it is best to not overdo it though because it tricks your metabolism into starving mode, which makes losing weight harder. Losing weight is just like gaining weight in that one should take it slow and easy. Doing otherwise creates the rebound effect, were as soon as you start eating again, you gain weight which is mostly fat.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 11, 2015, 05:01:06 AM
had mothers day by me yesterday...cooked for mom/mom in law/sister/boughts cards/candles ...cooked hamburgers/hot dogs/chicken/mom made sausage/peppers/kids played on slip and slide,amazing how a plastic slide with water can give kids fun for hrs'beautiful'out sunny/80,,i was baking when I was cooking...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 11, 2015, 07:58:31 PM
chest

back to inc press start,i feel you can somewhat seperate parts of bodyparts like upper/lower /outer sections of chest and work the area

inc press warmed,,175/185/185/185
dec dbell 65/65/65
seated chest press 'stack kind'x3
cable crossovers x4 changed angle 6 reps like upper flye 6 hunched and 'crab pose'the reps
2 sets dips

tris
lying skulls with rope downs  x3

close grips with reverse grip pushdowns

finished x3 pushdowns

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 11, 2015, 08:00:29 PM
chest...

Decline BB press 4 sets
Decline Db Flyes 4 sets
Incline BB press 4 sets
Incline db Flyes 4 sets

Cardio running outside, standing smith machine calf raises 5 sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 11, 2015, 08:04:25 PM
chest

back to inc press start,i feel you can somewhat seperate parts of bodyparts like upper/lower /outer sections of chest and work the area

inc press warmed,,175/185/185/185
dec dbell 65/65/65
seated chest press 'stack kind'x3
cable crossovers x4 changed angle 6 reps like upper flye 6 hunched and 'crab pose'the reps
2 sets dips

tris
lying skulls with rope downs  x3

close grips with reverse grip pushdowns

finished x3 pushdowns

abs

yes i think by changing the angles you can shift more stress to each area. we know the whole chest is worked but still, i am not doing any flat work and itīs covered with incline/ Decline work but at the same time i get better results with Decline than flat.... am i rambling ? itīs 5 am here  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 11, 2015, 08:08:22 PM
yes i think by changing the angles you can shift more stress to each area. we know the whole chest is worked but still, i am not doing any flat work and itīs covered with incline/ Decline work but at the same time i get better results with Decline than flat.... am i rambling ? itīs 5 am here  ;D
i fell my chest is fuller when i load top with inclines /dips..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 13, 2015, 08:08:20 AM
i fell my chest is fuller when i load top with inclines /dips..
100% agree with you. so legs today was...

straight sets..
20 mins on stationary Bike
BB Deep Squats 4 sets
BB front squats 4 sets
leg curls 4 sets
Stiff legged Deadlifts 4 sets
Seated calf raises 5 sets

i finished my workout with a type of Static hold without weight. My Back against a wall in a squat position and holding it as long as i could... it really will hurt tomorrow. Just decided to throw a few sets of this in... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 13, 2015, 08:10:31 AM
100% agree with you. so legs today was...

straight sets..
20 mins on stationary Bike
BB Deep Squats 4 sets
BB front squats 4 sets
leg curls 4 sets
Stiff legged Deadlifts 4 sets
Seated calf raises 5 sets

i finished my workout with a type of Static hold without weight. My Back against a wall in a squat position and holding it as long as i could... it really will hurt tomorrow. Just decided to throw a few sets of this in... ;D
NICE LIFTING /MOVEMENTS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 13, 2015, 08:16:51 AM
NICE LIFTING /MOVEMENTS
i like to now and again put a new exercise in or change it slightly, hence the static holds.. remember doing them years ago. Used to do them a lot in PT in the Military.. they hurt :) were enough at the end after Deep squats and Front squats.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on May 13, 2015, 09:40:20 AM
Anyone ever try paused squats?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 13, 2015, 11:36:09 AM
Anyone ever try paused squats?
what do you feel are the adventages in them ? Slightly different to static holds with less of a "pause" in the lower position.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 13, 2015, 11:59:22 AM
so tomorrow is Fathers Day here .. have it off but work early Friday... Itīs traditional here to get drunk and a lot of Fathers have a fest on the streets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on May 13, 2015, 12:00:02 PM
what do you feel are the adventages in them ? Slightly different to static holds with less of a "pause" in the lower position.
I do them with a wide stance and essentially sit on my heels for a 1 second pause. Biggest advantage imo is the stretch in the muscles, tendons, joints....entire leg gets stretched, ankle to hip. Plus it helps build explosiveness out of the hole for regular squats.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 13, 2015, 12:05:17 PM
I do them with a wide stance and essentially sit on my heels for a 1 second pause. Biggest advantage imo is the stretch in the muscles, tendons, joints....entire leg gets stretched, ankle to hip. Plus it helps build explosiveness out of the hole for regular squats.
i agree flexibility is important .. do you use a heel raise?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 13, 2015, 12:17:00 PM
Anyone ever try paused squats?

Only with a second hold at the bottom, or do you mean much longer?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 13, 2015, 03:07:56 PM
so tomorrow is Fathers Day here .. have it off but work early Friday... Itīs traditional here to get drunk and a lot of Fathers have a fest on the streets.

You gotta love living in Germany where every occasion calls for a fest and some beer. I'm not sure about the drunk part though. In my experience, drunkenness ruins these occasions. I prefer being only a little tipsy and relaxed....I'm already fairly uninhibited.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on May 13, 2015, 03:46:25 PM
i agree flexibility is important .. do you use a heel raise?
No heel raise, Chuck Taylors or barefoot.

Only with a second hold at the bottom, or do you mean much longer?
I've tried upwards of 5 seconds, I don't think there is any benefit, I count "one thousand one" at the bottom.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 13, 2015, 04:50:51 PM
I've tried upwards of 5 seconds, I don't think there is any benefit, I count "one thousand one" at the bottom.

I've recently read about weighted stretches, not between reps but between sets. There are signs that this might be beneficlal for both strength and hypertrophy.

"The athletes began with a weight they could lift 12-15 times until failure. However, instead of resting between sets, they let the weight from the leg press stretch their calves for 30 seconds. They repeated this process three times, dropping the weight after each stretch.

After 5 weeks we found that the stretching group doubled the muscle gains of the non-stretching group!"


http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ask-the-muscle-prof-what-technique-produces-craziest-growth.html
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on May 13, 2015, 09:16:27 PM
I've recently read about weighted stretches, not between reps but between sets. There are signs that this might be beneficlal for both strength and hypertrophy.

"The athletes began with a weight they could lift 12-15 times until failure. However, instead of resting between sets, they let the weight from the leg press stretch their calves for 30 seconds. They repeated this process three times, dropping the weight after each stretch.

After 5 weeks we found that the stretching group doubled the muscle gains of the non-stretching group!"


http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ask-the-muscle-prof-what-technique-produces-craziest-growth.html
Interesting. I just stumbled on this with paused squats but I may give it a go with other body parts now.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 14, 2015, 12:02:19 AM
Interesting. I just stumbled on this with paused squats but I may give it a go with other body parts now.

A 30 sec weighted stretch in between squats is prob a bit too much (read: knees :-X), but this version might be a nice one as outlined in this (https://www.t-nation.com/training/most-painful-way-to-build-muscle) recent T-nation article. I give it a try next time!

(https://www.t-nation.com/system/publishing/article_assets/2305/original/Quad.jpg?ts=1429050258)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 14, 2015, 09:28:12 AM
back
front pulldowns x4 after warm ups.....used narrow bar 'looks like bike handle bar curved'hits the mid/outer section lats nice/rhomboids too..
t bar row lying on pad elevated version.2 plates/2 plates and change/2 plates and 25
low pulley row cable under hand grip small curl bar version x3 165/180/180 squeezed these
behind neck pulldowns x3
cable standing rope pulls/stretch to waist x3

weighted hypers x3

shrugs
225/275/315/315 supersetted with 45 lb plate per hand and behind back

calves standing calf raise x5

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 14, 2015, 10:30:21 PM
Tomorrow afternoon I am having a steroid injected into my spine in hopes that it will relieve the sciatica I suffer from. During the pre-visit the doctor complimented me on being in great physical condition. He said he wished all his patients were as fit as I am because it would help them resolve some of their pain issues. Not sure what he means since I have a compressed spine even though I am fit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 15, 2015, 04:34:42 AM
Arm workout Today...

Incline DB curls SS Incline ez bar extensions 3x10
Close grip Chins (Weighted) SS Parallel Bar Dips 3x10
Cable Concentration curls SS Cable Kickbacks 3x15

Standing Calf raises smith machine 5 sets, Crunches SS Leg raises (both on floor mat) Cardio 45 mins stationary bike Hill programme  :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 15, 2015, 07:25:36 PM
day behind delt day..

hammer shoulder press machine x5

run the rack side laterals x2 30/25/20/15 dbls....these hurt

rope pulls x4 to face

db upright rows x3 30/35/40's


bis

barbell curls...65/85/105/105

db inclines curls..30/25/40

2 sets cable single arm curls

2 sets scott curl machine

forarms
cable wrist curls x2

 behind back barbell reverse underhand   wrist curls x3

curl bar reverse curls x3


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on May 15, 2015, 09:00:45 PM
Have not lifted in a while now...Dammit!  Doctor's orders so I will do as asked before I have to do as told.

Continue on lads!   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 15, 2015, 09:20:57 PM
Have not lifted in a while now...Dammit!  Doctor's orders so I will do as asked before I have to do as told.

Continue on lads!   ;D

You need a better doctor
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on May 15, 2015, 09:49:57 PM
You need a better doctor

I have been through several.  Two of my current physicians are department heads.  Don't know if that just means no one else in the department would have me... ;D

I trained hard for a while and then...Dammit!  I'll be back at it as soon as I can. Not lifting tends to make me grumpier and it doubtless shows in the real world and here. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 15, 2015, 10:21:14 PM
I have been through several.  Two of my current physicians are department heads.  Don't know if that just means no one else in the department would have me... ;D

I trained hard for a while and then...Dammit!  I'll be back at it as soon as I can. Not lifting tends to make me grumpier and it doubtless shows in the real world and here.  

Can you outline your medical condition in short? I've missed that part.

It's always frustrating when you can't do what you love to do, whether it's eating, sleeping, fucking or lifting  :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 16, 2015, 12:06:38 AM
Tomorrow is back day. I will use all machines.  :D :D

Lat pulldowns

(https://www.leisurefitness.com/Content/product_images/PWDPL0305_PFSIL_PASIL_PUBLK.png)

Rows

(https://www.leisurefitness.com/Content/product_images/PWDPL0309_PFSIL_PASIL_PUBLK.png)

Low Row

(http://dsw1e6vxqxp82.cloudfront.net/products/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/4/7/472x515px-all-white-_0009_discovery_pl_low_row.jpg)

Close grip lat pulldown

(http://www.ironmanmag.com.au/photos/image?format=raw&type=img&id=202)

t-bar rows

(http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/equipment/lying-t-row/apex-lying-t-row-01.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 16, 2015, 12:09:16 AM
I have been through several.  Two of my current physicians are department heads.  Don't know if that just means no one else in the department would have me... ;D

I trained hard for a while and then...Dammit!  I'll be back at it as soon as I can. Not lifting tends to make me grumpier and it doubtless shows in the real world and here. 
donīt worry Scotty just get back to good health first...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 16, 2015, 01:15:15 AM
Update

The steroid shots went extraordinarily well. Although discharge instructions prohibited visiting the gym afterward. Only time will tell whether this is successful with regards to my numb right foot.

I am considering the various workout routines, some of which you all suggested, that will work best for me to get back at it. After last week's fiasco, I've decided the 5 day routine I was doing before is not the best for someone who is starting over after a long layoff. Three days a week, doing a full body work out seems like a plan right now.

Did you know that someone who is 5'9" tall and weighs 185 lbs. has a BMI that is considered to be obese? Here I thought I was fit as a fiddle and it turns out that I am obese. Who knew? There must be some flaw in this formula.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 16, 2015, 03:56:42 AM
Tomorrow is back day. I will use all machines.  :D :D


(http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1344053726721_3003882.png)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 16, 2015, 04:02:21 AM
well Today i will not train. maybe later mong out and watch a couple of good old 50s or 60s films. Love the old school Actors...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 16, 2015, 08:04:48 AM
(http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1344053726721_3003882.png)

Calm down, its just putting things up and putting them down. Its not that serious.  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 16, 2015, 08:09:01 AM
Calm down, its just putting things up and putting them down. Its not that serious.  :D
Gentlemen.. i will remove posts if it is in bad taste.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 16, 2015, 08:21:54 AM
Calm down, its just putting things up and putting them down. Its not that serious.  :D

Forget science or religion, lifting weights is The Key to the holy universe!

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 16, 2015, 08:22:44 AM
Forget science or religion, lifting weights is The Key to the holy universe!


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PART  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 16, 2015, 08:39:26 AM
Gentlemen.. i will remove posts if it is in bad taste.

We are just joking. We PM often. I know hes just messing around.  ;) ;)

Plus, you shouldn't be quoting my post. He's the one that started it. You should be quoting his post ;-)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 16, 2015, 08:47:59 AM
We are just joking. We PM often. I know hes just messing around.  ;) ;)

Plus, you shouldn't be quoting my post. He's the one that started it. You should be quoting his post ;-)
no i am doing what i should be doing.. ;) just giving a friendly hint. the Idea behind this thread was a place where older trainers could write together. A bit of fun and language is ok but letīs stick to training. We are very friendly and open and i assure you we are not old farts. I write often with people on this thread and we get on well, having said that we are always wellcome to new input..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on May 16, 2015, 08:51:17 AM
Gentlemen.. i will remove posts if it is in bad taste.
;D

no i am doing what i should be doing.. ;) just giving a friendly hint. the Idea behind this thread was a place where older trainers could write together. A bit of fun and language is ok but letīs stick to training. We are very friendly and open and i assure you we are not old farts. I write often with people on this thread and we get on well, having said that we are always wellcome to new input..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 16, 2015, 08:58:38 AM
;D

including yours big bad man  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on May 16, 2015, 09:03:52 AM
including yours big bad man  ;D
Don't get too big for your britches, kid. ;)

Why are you not training today? Saturday is proven to be the most anabolic day of the week!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 16, 2015, 09:05:37 AM
Don't get too big for your britches, kid. ;)

Why are you not training today? Saturday is proven to be the most anabolic day of the week!
mate my hands aint as big as your head but fast.. today is a getbig Day  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on May 16, 2015, 09:14:08 AM
mate my hands aint as big as your head but fast.. today is a getbig Day  ;)
Your hands could be greased lightning,  but I have the big bad boy buttons. :D
Enjoy your day on getbig and keep an eye on sf1900, he's shifty as fuck. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 16, 2015, 09:15:54 AM
Your hands could be greased lightning,  but I have the big bad boy buttons. :D
Enjoy your day on getbig and keep an eye on sf1900, he's shifty as fuck. ;)
OK Buddy  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on May 16, 2015, 08:10:14 PM
OK Buddy  ;)
How'd it go? Is jumping on a trampoline considered cardio?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 16, 2015, 08:44:54 PM
Your hands could be greased lightning,  but I have the big bad boy buttons. :D
Enjoy your day on getbig and keep an eye on sf1900, he's shifty as fuck. ;)

Yes, I am so shifty!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on May 16, 2015, 09:13:39 PM
Yes, I am so shifty!
x2
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 16, 2015, 09:15:48 PM
x2

x3

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 16, 2015, 09:32:24 PM
I got lazy and did not work back today. Will work it tomorrow but will change my routine around.

Wide grip lat pulldowns
Incline dumbbell rows
T-bar rows
Hammer Strength machine rows
Low cable rows
Hyperextensions
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2015, 12:16:17 AM
Hyperextensions are good to do, but I need to be in the right mood for them. They sometimes make me dizzy or dizzier, I should say. I prefer to do them using just bodyweight. They make my lower back feel fine and flexible.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on May 17, 2015, 10:38:46 AM
I forgot to do hyperextensions :(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 17, 2015, 10:55:01 AM
I forgot to do hyperextensions :(

Go grab the bumper of your car and perform some stiff legged deads
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 17, 2015, 07:33:19 PM
after 6 day work week  :P,,sunday leg day/then mowed lawn/played with kids outside /set up play pool for them,then did some seeding on lawn  later pm and watering..long day...my lawn is getting close to impeccable  ;D...

started leg press warmed up ,,,4/5/6/7 plates
squats'close stance,,225/275/315/315..12/10/10/10
walking lunges they added some heavier kettle bells used 55's x2
extensions 220/230/235/235 sets 12

hams
seated leg curls 'good machine'upright instead lying 180/195/210 ..
sldl 135/185/235

calves 5 set leg press


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2015, 09:00:31 PM
after 6 day work week  :P,,sunday leg day/then mowed lawn/played with kids outside /set up play pool for them,then did some seeding on lawn  later pm and watering..long day...my lawn is getting close to impeccable  ;D...

started leg press warmed up ,,,4/5/6/7 plates
squats'close stance,,225/275/315/315..12/10/10/10
walking lunges they added some heavier kettle bells used 55's x2
extensions 220/230/235/235 sets 12

hams
seated leg curls 'good machine'upright instead lying 180/195/210 ..
sldl 135/185/235

calves 5 set leg press


All these chores and a good workout too. That's really impressive.

My daughter reseeded out back yard lawn area. Unfortunately she buried the seed too deep under peat moss and so the are still some bare areas. Between the moles digging and the dogs peeing, they pretty much destroyed this lawn last summer and fall. This is a last ditch effort. If the lawn starts looking like crap again, I'm going to put in fake grass. It's an expensive proposition, but once it's in, the maintenance costs are zilch.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 17, 2015, 09:02:08 PM
Go grab the bumper of your car and perform some stiff legged deads
.

The hyperextensions would have been easier unless he drive a Smart car....which is unlikely
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 17, 2015, 10:57:25 PM
.

The hyperextensions would have been easier unless he drive a Smart car....which is unlikely

A 240 pound friend has one. When we drive to the gym then we sit elbow against elbow, but that's (no homo) :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 18, 2015, 06:08:28 AM
chest..

Decline BB press 4 sets
Decline flys 4 sets
Incline DB press 4 sets
Incline Flys 4 sets
crunches 3 x Max SS leg raises both on floor mat

Cardio 30 mins crosser, 10 mins rowing.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 18, 2015, 06:26:07 AM
chest..

Decline BB press 4 sets
Decline flys 4 sets
Incline DB press 4 sets
Incline Flys 4 sets
crunches 3 x Max SS leg raises both on floor mat

Cardio 30 mins crosser, 10 mins rowing.  

press, flye, press, flye.. I like that
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 18, 2015, 06:32:45 AM
chest..

Decline BB press 4 sets
Decline flys 4 sets
Incline DB press 4 sets
Incline Flys 4 sets
crunches 3 x Max SS leg raises both on floor mat

Cardio 30 mins crosser, 10 mins rowing.  
NICE D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 18, 2015, 06:43:35 AM
thanks guys..  keep pumpin.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 18, 2015, 06:57:59 AM
thanks guys..  keep pumpin.. ;D

Pumpers keep pumpin, lifters gonna lift!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 18, 2015, 07:15:23 AM
Pumpers keep pumpin, lifters gonna lift!
  ;D exactly
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 18, 2015, 02:26:07 PM
3D delt construction plan

- 8 giant sets of seated DB presses, seated lateral DB raises & standing rear DB raises
- 1 triple drop down set of machine presses with a 30 sec weighted stretch between the drops (pretty painful)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 18, 2015, 02:27:22 PM
3D delt construction plan

- 8 giant sets of seated DB presses, seated lateral DB raises & standing rear DB raises
- 1 triple drop down set of machine presses with a 30 sec weighted stretch between the drops (pretty painful)
I do these but 3x around...then couple other exercises on own
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 18, 2015, 02:50:57 PM
I do these but 3x around...then couple other exercises on own

You mean 3 giant sets? I might do the same when my gym had Hammer equipment.
Gym was packed today with 'beach boys' so I took a bench in the corner with some DB pairs and plugged in my ear phones for a good focus.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 18, 2015, 05:53:26 PM
chest

inc press..x4 worked up to 205 with a drop to 185 last set

hammer press lying ..plate and 25..2 plates,2 plates and loose change'lol',2 plates and 25

dec db flyes.35/40/45

cable crossovers x3

db press w/65's rotating palms facing at top'good squeeze'


tris
superset extension machine with rope pushdowns x4

close grip bench with reverse grip pushdowns x3

dip machine x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 19, 2015, 03:11:21 AM
chest

inc press..x4 worked up to 205 with a drop to 185 last set

hammer press lying ..plate and 25..2 plates,2 plates and loose change'lol',2 plates and 25

dec db flyes.35/40/45

cable crossovers x3

db press w/65's rotating palms facing at top'good squeeze'


tris
superset extension machine with rope pushdowns x4

close grip bench with reverse grip pushdowns x3

dip machine x3

abs

That's a winner for me, chest is sore for almost a week
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 19, 2015, 08:18:54 AM
That's a winner for me, chest is sore for almost a week
my chest keeps a nice fullness anyway for day or so after workout.but those worked nice,donny triggered that one for me,,i do them for few wks,,my inclines been going up so I will keep them 1st for a while again...I like upper chest and delt tieins look,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 19, 2015, 08:57:54 AM
my chest keeps a nice fullness anyway for day or so after workout.but those worked nice,donny triggered that one for me,,i do them for few wks,,my inclines been going up so I will keep them 1st for a while again...I like upper chest and delt tieins look,,,,
NJ beef ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 19, 2015, 09:09:05 AM
NJ beef ;D
lol...I like training in summer ,,feel lighter/tighter,better pumps ,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 20, 2015, 08:15:52 AM
Today i decided to try something different ..

Front chins 4 x max
DB pullovers SS BB rows under grip 4 sets
BB pullovers SS 1 arm Db rows 4 sets

pre exhausted my lats with pullovers worked well.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 21, 2015, 11:21:37 AM
BACK

WIDE CHINS X2.INNER GRIP X2
T BAR ROWS WIDER GRIP 2 PLATES/2.5/3/3.5
SMALL HANDLE FRONT PULLDOWNS X3
LOW ROW MACHINE CHEST TO PAD UNDERHAND GRIP X3
ROPE STANDING STRETCH PULLDOWNS TO WAIST X2'THESE ARE GREAT'

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3

SHRUGS
USED CHEST PRESS MACHING 'HAMMER VERSION.STAND BETWEEN BENCH GOOD FOR SHRUGS WORKED 4 SETS 2 PLATES TO 4 PLATES SIDE
TRIED THIS SOMETHING DIFFERENT'USED TBAR ROW THAT U HALF LAY ON FACE DOWN 'AND DID INNER GRIP AND DID A LYING PARTIAL SHRUG X3
IT WORKS TRY IT..VERY SHORT RANGE MOTION ARMS ARE STRAIGHT ..

ABS 5 SETS 30-35 LYING CRUNCH MACHINE

CALVES X3 SETS 4 DROPS PER 10 REPS 200/180/160/140
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 21, 2015, 07:53:21 PM
BACK

WIDE CHINS X2.INNER GRIP X2
T BAR ROWS WIDER GRIP 2 PLATES/2.5/3/3.5
SMALL HANDLE FRONT PULLDOWNS X3
LOW ROW MACHINE CHEST TO PAD UNDERHAND GRIP X3
ROPE STANDING STRETCH PULLDOWNS TO WAIST X2'THESE ARE GREAT'

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3

SHRUGS
USED CHEST PRESS MACHING 'HAMMER VERSION.STAND BETWEEN BENCH GOOD FOR SHRUGS WORKED 4 SETS 2 PLATES TO 4 PLATES SIDE
TRIED THIS SOMETHING DIFFERENT'USED TBAR ROW THAT U HALF LAY ON FACE DOWN 'AND DID INNER GRIP AND DID A LYING PARTIAL SHRUG X3
IT WORKS TRY IT..VERY SHORT RANGE MOTION ARMS ARE STRAIGHT ..

ABS 5 SETS 30-35 LYING CRUNCH MACHINE

CALVES X3 SETS 4 DROPS PER 10 REPS 200/180/160/140
nice one Steve..will post up later, been very busy this week workwise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 23, 2015, 09:31:44 AM
thank God we have a Holiday on Monday. should have been off today but worked. Anyway, i did Shoulders + arms.

Tri set: Front, side, Back raises 4 sets
Seated BB press 4 sets

Decline EZ Bar extensions 4 sets
Incline EZ Bar extensions 4 sets

incline Steve Reeves curls 4 sets
BB Curls 4 sets

Cardio: running 45 mins. I think changing the angle on the extensions makes a difference. incline/decline, maybe not so extreme like Benches but i feel a difference.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 23, 2015, 10:19:51 AM
trying to catch up 2 days away,,i need break from get big sometimes ;D

delts fri

switched it up to normal breakdown no supersets

used cybex 'stack'version press,used inner handle grip,,this not worth mentioning  weight used its irrelevant 'good pump'machine tho..x4

side laterals basic sets 25/25/30/30 lbs used 10-12 reps goal

hammer strenght plate loaded press wide grip and did single arm 'i like feel'at times used plate each side and some loose change x3

front raises with premade curl bar over hand grip this time 50/60/70

rear cable latersals x3
followed 2 set rop pulls to face

bi's

curls standard 45 lb bar ..85/95/110/110

inc db curls x3 30/35/35

hammers across body 40/45/50

forarms
superset wrist curls reverse cable with single grip wrist curls top down x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 23, 2015, 10:22:50 AM
trying to catch up 2 days away,,i need break from get big sometimes ;D

delts fri

switched it up to normal breakdown no supersets

used cybex 'stack'version press,used inner handle grip,,this not worth mentioning  weight used its irrelevant 'good pump'machine tho..x4

side laterals basic sets 25/25/30/30 lbs used 10-12 reps goal

hammer strenght plate loaded press wide grip and did single arm 'i like feel'at times used plate each side and some loose change x3

front raises with premade curl bar over hand grip this time 50/60/70

rear cable latersals x3
followed 2 set rop pulls to face

bi's

curls standard 45 lb bar ..85/95/110/110

inc db curls x3 30/35/35

hammers across body 40/45/50

forarms
superset wrist curls reverse cable with single grip wrist curls top down x3
Got to admit i am not so big as you steve on Forearm training but i think i have slowly got the hang of Zottman curls... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 23, 2015, 10:26:51 AM
part 2,,,

legs il ove leg day too nice weekend to be couped in gym tho ..ran workout hard and fast..

trisets x3 extension /leg press /hack squats 10 reps per leg

195/205/220 extensions/leg press 4/5/5 plates per side.hacks 3/3.5/3.5 plates per side ,,intense painful pump...

polished off on own 55 lb kettle bells walked stairs up/down up/down..x2

hams
sldl 135/185/205/225 with rear leg curls 140/140/145/145

calves
seated calf raises 3 plates/3.5/3.5/3.5 .5=25 lb plate 'for u math geniuses...repped 15/20 on these..hi reps are better w calves..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 23, 2015, 10:29:04 AM
Got to admit i am not so big as you steve on Forearm training but i think i have slowly got the hang of Zottman curls... ;D
i throw them in for something extra,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 23, 2015, 10:37:15 AM
part 2,,,

legs il ove leg day too nice weekend to be couped in gym tho ..ran workout hard and fast..

trisets x3 extension /leg press /hack squats 10 reps per leg

195/205/220 extensions/leg press 4/5/5 plates per side.hacks 3/3.5/3.5 plates per side ,,intense painful pump...

polished off on own 55 lb kettle bells walked stairs up/down up/down..x2

hams
sldl 135/185/205/225 with rear leg curls 140/140/145/145

calves
seated calf raises 3 plates/3.5/3.5/3.5 .5=25 lb plate 'for u math geniuses...repped 15/20 on these..hi reps are better w calves..
Q U A D Z I L L A ....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 25, 2015, 06:38:58 PM
memorial day ,,god bless past/present military/war heroes..

chest

inc press..x5 135/205
hammer strenght lying chest press x3 2 plates to 2.5
decline flyes x3 40/45/45
superset cable crossovers with dips x3
seated chest press x2 'stack version'

tris

premade curl bar skull crushers x3
pushdowns x3
reverse pushdowns x3
lying extension db across face and out x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 26, 2015, 08:47:57 AM
did legs today..

Front squats 5 sets
seated leg press 5 sets
leg curls 5 sets
Stiff legged Deadlifts 5 sets
Seated calf raises 5 sets

machine crunches 3 sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 27, 2015, 08:45:55 AM
 Back ..

Meduim grip front chins 4x max

DB pullover SS Undergrip Barbell bent over rows 4 supersets
Barbell pullovers SS One arm dB rows 4 supersets

Cardio: Run in woods.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 27, 2015, 09:37:38 AM
nice work there d....I have back 2 nite..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 27, 2015, 08:06:20 PM
back

chins 2 wide 2 inner
tbar row lying on pad x3 inner grip 2 plates and 2 sets 2.5
cable low rows 'small bar'x3 180/210
underhanded wide grip reverse pulldowns x3
2 sets standing pulls to waist pulldowns

weighted hypers x3

shrugs 185/225/275/295


calves 3 sets 4 drops 10 reps set 200/180/160/140

abs


180/160/140
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 27, 2015, 08:09:04 PM
back

chins 2 wide 2 inner
tbar row lying on pad x3 inner grip 2 plates and 2 sets 2.5
cable low rows 'small bar'x3 180/210
underhanded wide grip reverse pulldowns x3
2 sets standing pulls to waist pulldowns

weighted hypers x3

shrugs 185/225/275/295


calves 3 sets 4 drops 10 reps set 200/180/160/140

abs


180/160/140
T-Bar rows are a great move i have not done in a long time...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 28, 2015, 06:15:51 AM
T-Bar rows are a great move i have not done in a long time...
we have 2 different versions I do both..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2015, 09:00:09 AM
we have 2 different versions I do both..
I just do them old school with a bar and v attachment. Shoulders today..

tri set...
Front Barbell raises 4 sets
Side raises (machine) 4 sets
Rear Delt machine 4 sets

seated back supported DB press 4 sets
upright rows (cable) 4 sets

standing calf raises 5 sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 28, 2015, 09:32:00 AM
I just do them old school with a bar and v attachment. Shoulders today..

tri set...
Front Barbell raises 4 sets
Side raises (machine) 4 sets
Rear Delt machine 4 sets

seated back supported DB press 4 sets
upright rows (cable) 4 sets

standing calf raises 5 sets.
I do this workout to a ttttt sometimes..nice runs..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 28, 2015, 07:50:08 PM
 donnys delt workouts keep me pumped lol for delt day

front presses 135/145/165/165 drop 145

trisets
side
front
rears x3 20/25/25 lb dbells

smith upright rows x3

3 sets cable behind back raises

bis
premade curl bar 70/80/90/100

inc db curls x3 30/35/35
hammer curls 30-45's x3
2 sets curl machine single arm at time

forearms
behind back bar wrist curls x3
reverse curls x3
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2015, 08:04:03 PM
donnys delt workouts keep me pumped lol for delt day

front presses 135/145/165/165 drop 145

trisets
side
front
rears x3 20/25/25 lb dbells

smith upright rows x3

3 sets cable behind back raises

bis
premade curl bar 70/80/90/100

inc db curls x3 30/35/35
hammer curls 30-45's x3
2 sets curl machine single arm at time

forearms
behind back bar wrist curls x3
reverse curls x3

pump it up man!... my Birthday today...49 :o  work till 12 then a cold beer  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 29, 2015, 11:54:53 PM
well i took a Day off yesterday and celebrated ;D Today i will just eat well and recover. Tomorrow a nice run in the woods. Monday back on schedule. the weather here is changing all the time, wind..rain...sun if lucky.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 30, 2015, 01:34:07 AM
well i took a Day off yesterday and celebrated ;D Today i will just eat well and recover. Tomorrow a nice run in the woods. Monday back on schedule. the weather here is changing all the time, wind..rain...sun if lucky.

This is my belated happy birthday wish to you. I hope you enjoyed you day off and your birthday. You are now 49 years young now and fit as a fiddle. You are one to be envied and admired.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 30, 2015, 02:08:53 AM
This is my belated happy birthday wish to you. I hope you enjoyed you day off and your birthday. You are now 49 years young now and fit as a fiddle. You are one to be envied and admired.
Thanks Jay... i am actually looking forward to 50 and my Golden years.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 30, 2015, 05:30:49 AM
Thanks Jay... i am actually looking forward to 50 and my Golden years.
h
a
p
p
y birthday....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 30, 2015, 05:48:53 AM
h
a
p
p
y birthday....
Thanks Steve
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 31, 2015, 09:40:09 AM
leg day

leg press warmed up /stretch...4 plates/6/7/7 side
squats  225/315/365
kettle ball 45's stair lunge climb x2 up/down/up/down each set
leg extensions x4 x12-15

hams
sldl 135/185/225/275 :o
seated leg curls x3

leg press calve raises x5
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on May 31, 2015, 10:25:18 AM
Herzlichen glückwunsch zum geburtstag, mein Schottischer freund!

And a thanks to all that post here for the inspiration!  I have been given the green light to begin training again starting tomorrow.  Dammit!  ;D



Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 31, 2015, 10:46:59 AM
Herzlichen glückwunsch zum geburtstag, mein Schottischer freund!

And a thanks to all that post here for the inspiration!  I have been given the green light to begin training again starting tomorrow.  Dammit!  ;D

Some more inspiration for you, also in green :)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/59/b6/a9/59b6a983c391bf2a46a11c6e3794c3f4.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 31, 2015, 12:36:30 PM
Herzlichen glückwunsch zum geburtstag, mein Schottischer freund!

And a thanks to all that post here for the inspiration!  I have been given the green light to begin training again starting tomorrow.  Dammit!  ;D


I gave myself the green light months ago. So far, training is still in my imagination. Soon, I will haul that imagination to the gym and put it to good use. I too appreciate all the inspiration in this thread.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 31, 2015, 12:38:27 PM
Some more inspiration for you, also in green :)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/59/b6/a9/59b6a983c391bf2a46a11c6e3794c3f4.jpg)

What is with her expression? It seems kind of hostile. She scares me more than she inspires me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 31, 2015, 01:03:51 PM
What is with her expression? It seems kind of hostile. She scares me more than she inspires me.

It's a woman, so there's nothing to rationalize here
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 31, 2015, 01:09:00 PM
It's a woman, so there's nothing to rationalize here

Huh? You lost me. I must be having some kind of senior moment....this happens to folks my age from time to time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 31, 2015, 01:18:51 PM
Huh? You lost me. I must be having some kind of senior moment....this happens to folks my age from time to time.

That soon?! Do you believe that people's (esp women's) spontaneous behavior is explanatory?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on May 31, 2015, 02:29:19 PM
Some more inspiration for you, also in green :)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/59/b6/a9/59b6a983c391bf2a46a11c6e3794c3f4.jpg)

It's a "carpenter's dream", i.e., flat as a board and easy to screw.

Thank the Buddha I'm not a carpenter. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 31, 2015, 02:46:32 PM
It's a "carpenter's dream", i.e., flat as a board and easy to screw.

Thank the Buddha I'm not a carpenter. ;D

Big tits are overrated, sooner or later they drop on the floor, good luck with that :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 31, 2015, 03:46:44 PM
That soon?! Do you believe that people's (esp women's) spontaneous behavior is explanatory?

Heck, it makes for a good excuse anyway.

Probably not. But, I think it still says something about their personality. I would have fallen over dead, had my wife ever made such an expression. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 31, 2015, 05:01:11 PM
i'm close to summer condition,tad bigger ,couple people asked me if i was competing or that i look bigger ,who knows,feeling great tho..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on May 31, 2015, 07:54:29 PM
Herzlichen glückwunsch zum geburtstag, mein Schottischer freund!

And a thanks to all that post here for the inspiration!  I have been given the green light to begin training again starting tomorrow.  Dammit!  ;D




thanks scotty  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 31, 2015, 08:08:13 PM
i'm close to summer condition,tad bigger ,couple people asked me if i was competing or that i look bigger ,who knows,feeling great tho..

Good job! Ultimately, how you feel is everything.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 01, 2015, 07:09:59 AM
Chest Blast...

Incline BB press 4 sets
Incline DB flyes 4 sets
Decline BB press 4 sets
Decline Flyes 4 sets

Cardio: crosser 30 mins Interval. Crunches calves on bench 3x max reps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 01, 2015, 11:41:31 AM
i'm close to summer condition,tad bigger ,couple people asked me if i was competing or that i look bigger ,who knows,feeling great tho..

Looking balanced as always!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on June 01, 2015, 08:35:29 PM
i'm close to summer condition,tad bigger ,couple people asked me if i was competing or that i look bigger ,who knows,feeling great tho..

As always, you look great.  Well done indeed, sir!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 01, 2015, 08:43:15 PM
As always, you look great.  Well done indeed, sir!
thanks guys,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on June 01, 2015, 08:56:57 PM
I'd hit it!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 02, 2015, 04:54:57 AM
I'd hit it!
:o.....lollllloolllll sick 'mod'
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on June 02, 2015, 05:20:48 AM
I'd hit it!
X 2 Looking great as always Steve.  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 02, 2015, 05:32:07 AM
X 2 Looking great as always Steve.  :)
THANK U KAREN,,HOPE YOUR FEELING AND HEALED ,YOUR A STRONG LADY..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 02, 2015, 07:14:01 AM
CHEST
 INC DB'S 55/65/70/75
LYING HAMMER STRENGHT CHEST PRESS 2 PLATES X2/2.5 PLATES
DECLINE FLYES 40/45/50  'DONNY GOT ME ON THESE'
SEATED PRESS'STACK VERSION'THIS HAS NICE TENSION FOR A CABLE MACHINE X3
CABLE CROSSOVERS X3

TRIS
SUPERSET
CLOSE GRIP BENCH WITH ROPE PUSHDOWNS X3
TRICEP SEATED EXTENSION MACHINE WITH DIP MACHINE X3
FINISHED 3 SETS REVERSE GRIP PUSHDOWNS X3

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on June 02, 2015, 10:45:21 PM
THANK U KAREN,,HOPE YOUR FEELING AND HEALED ,YOUR A STRONG LADY..
Yes I am training hard despite some pain afterwards but that's normal after a c section incision. Just glad to have my health and gym life back.  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 03, 2015, 05:13:53 AM
Yes I am training hard despite some pain afterwards but that's normal after a c section incision. Just glad to have my health and gym life back.  :)
8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 03, 2015, 05:23:11 AM
Yes I am training hard despite some pain afterwards but that's normal after a c section incision. Just glad to have my health and gym life back.  :)

Good to hear from you Karen, stay fit & healthy :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on June 03, 2015, 05:26:56 AM
Good to hear from you Karen, stay fit & healthy :)
Thank you DP.  :-*
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 03, 2015, 07:12:14 AM
Back today...

Mixed grip chins 4 sets max
Wide grip Barbell rows 4 sets
Close grip low pulley rows 4 sets
Barbell pullovers 3 sets

Just decided to do mixed grip chins.. Cardio Stationery bike 30 mins.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 03, 2015, 02:09:37 PM
Back didn't felt good during the warm up, so I switched to legs.

12 super sets of front squats & walking lunges
1 triple drop down set of leg extentions with 30 sec kneeled stretches in between and ditto with leg curls & straight leg bent overs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 04, 2015, 07:13:13 AM
Back didn't felt good during the warm up, so I switched to legs.

12 super sets of front squats & walking lunges
1 triple drop down set of leg extentions with 30 sec kneeled stretches in between and ditto with leg curls & straight leg bent overs

12 supersets of front squats/lunges....i bet that hurt.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 04, 2015, 07:32:08 AM
shoulders today ... using straight sets and changing order and exercise from my usual workout.

Db side laterals 4 sets
Machine press 4 sets
barbell upright rows 4 sets
rear delt machine 4 sets

abs: machine crunches 4 sets. cardio was a run outside.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 04, 2015, 08:30:33 AM
back

switched it up a bit no chins

underhand grip pulldown hammer strength machine x3 after warm up plate and 25,2 plates/2 plates and some tens/5's
barbell bent over rows 135/185/205/225
low pulley cable rows 180/190/200
tried these again db rows ,db done palms in and done together x3 60/65/70
2 sets standing rope pulls to waist pulldowns


weighted hypers x3

traps
shrugs 185/225/275/295/225 ..20/15/12/12/20

calves 3x sets drops 10 reps per 200/180/160/140 theses suck

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 04, 2015, 08:57:20 AM
back

switched it up a bit no chins

underhand grip pulldown hammer strength machine x3 after warm up plate and 25,2 plates/2 plates and some tens/5's
barbell bent over rows 135/185/205/225
low pulley cable rows 180/190/200
tried these again db rows ,db done palms in and done together x3 60/65/70
2 sets standing rope pulls to waist pulldowns


weighted hypers x3

traps
shrugs 185/225/275/295/225 ..20/15/12/12/20

calves 3x sets drops 10 reps per 200/180/160/140 theses suck

abs

nice one...i miss the Hammer pulldown machine... :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 04, 2015, 09:18:00 AM
nice one...i miss the Hammer pulldown machine... :'(
good machine stretch/pull/flex
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 04, 2015, 09:23:16 AM
good machine stretch/pull/flex

yes (nj) flex these lats..  ;D always loved the hammer rowing machine too
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 04, 2015, 09:26:36 AM
yes (nj) flex these lats..  ;D always loved the hammer rowing machine too
;D....love training back...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 04, 2015, 09:35:15 AM
;D....love training back...
dorian.... :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 04, 2015, 09:41:07 AM
dorian.... :o

insane yes,,,he hit fr and rear lat spread like brushing his teeth with ease...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 04, 2015, 09:47:28 AM
insane yes,,,he hit fr and rear lat spread like brushing his teeth with ease...
who do you think had the best all time lats?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 04, 2015, 09:48:23 AM
who do you think had the best all time lats?
him/franco/arnolds were pretty good.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 04, 2015, 09:51:47 AM
him/franco/arnolds were pretty good.
Lee Haney was not bad too...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 04, 2015, 09:56:40 AM
Lee Haney was not bad too...
sorry yeah and Samir...i'm taking in shape/flow/spreading them,relaxed,,these what 6 guys stand out..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 04, 2015, 11:24:22 AM
12 supersets of front squats/lunges....i bet that hurt.

To be honest, not that much and I think that the long stretches at the end play a factor. The pain will prob be a bit worse tomorrow (48-hour peak)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 04, 2015, 11:50:47 AM
To be honest, not that much and I think that the long stretches at the end play a factor. The pain will prob be a bit worse tomorrow (48-hour peak)
I WOULD THINK SO,,,THATS TOUGH WORK,,MY LEGS GET PUMPED ON STUFF LIKE THAT AND FOR 24 HRS STILL SWOLE,,SORENESS SETS IN SOMETIMES SAME NIGHT AFTER MY LEG WORKOUTS ...I LOVE IT  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 04, 2015, 08:25:51 PM
delts home training..have enough stuff for delt day

db presses x4 5th set did one arm at time
triset
sides
rear
front raises x3

cable uprights x3
bertil raises x3
2 sets of another raise i used to do bent over i take dbell start db together by knees and make a 'V'away and out

bis
superset curls 'curl bar'with single handed hammer curls arm turned so db comes across instead up/down x3

seated concetration db curls with reverse grip curl x3

3 sets in db curls
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 05, 2015, 02:39:31 AM
I WOULD THINK SO,,,THATS TOUGH WORK,,MY LEGS GET PUMPED ON STUFF LIKE THAT AND FOR 24 HRS STILL SWOLE,,SORENESS SETS IN SOMETIMES SAME NIGHT AFTER MY LEG WORKOUTS ...I LOVE IT  ;D

The swoleness and soreness within 24h, yeah I experience the same, except for delts, biceps and somehow the upper lats. I think that the distribution of fiber types play a role in this.
Almost 48 hours later, but the soreness in my legs isn't that 'bad'.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 05, 2015, 09:30:35 AM
The swoleness and soreness within 24h, yeah I experience the same, except for delts, biceps and somehow the upper lats. I think that the distribution of fiber types play a role in this.
Almost 48 hours later, but the soreness in my legs isn't that 'bad'.
yeah,,very true friend,,,my delts/pecs get like that too,intense pumps fullness,,i wish i walked arounf 24/7 like it tho  :D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 05, 2015, 11:23:50 AM
The swoleness and soreness within 24h, yeah I experience the same, except for delts, biceps and somehow the upper lats. I think that the distribution of fiber types play a role in this.
Almost 48 hours later, but the soreness in my legs isn't that 'bad'.
my legs get too pumped few days later seperation returns..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 05, 2015, 01:49:09 PM
my legs get too pumped few days later seperation returns..

The separation is there, even without a tan, that's muscle maturity!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 05, 2015, 01:53:12 PM
Just got home from a Friday night 'pec-attack'.

10 super sets of decline DB flyes & tucked-in DB presses (see pic below)
1 triple drop down set of machine assisted wide grip dips with 30 sec weighted stretched in between sets

(http://www.dieselsc.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/how-to-bench-crush-dumbbell-bench-press.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 05, 2015, 06:33:25 PM
Just got home from a Friday night 'pec-attack'.

10 super sets of decline DB flyes & tucked-in DB presses (see pic below)
1 triple drop down set of machine assisted wide grip dips with 30 sec weighted stretched in between sets

(http://www.dieselsc.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/how-to-bench-crush-dumbbell-bench-press.jpg)
i like those..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on June 05, 2015, 07:33:25 PM
I trained extra wimpy this week but came here for inspiration all the same. 

Thanks, gentlemen!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 06, 2015, 08:48:12 AM
I trained extra wimpy this week but came here for inspiration all the same. 

Thanks, gentlemen!
you are a Gentleman and old school we apreciate your posts.  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 06, 2015, 10:03:49 AM
I trained extra wimpy this week but came here for inspiration all the same. 

Thanks, gentlemen!

Here's a motivational quote from your idol

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a0/3f/69/a03f692c896be8f01697ce34981fd4c6.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 06, 2015, 06:35:18 PM
leg day,,wanted intense/and fast paced/under 1 hr,,always looking for different stimulation/variation..

trisets x4
leg press 4 plates side/45 lb kettle balls stair lunges up/down/up/down,205 extensions

remaining sets 5 plates/same kettles/220 on extensions...i was smoked here and pumped/breathing/heart was cooking...

next up 'v'squat hammer strenght 3 plates a side with stiff legged dbell 60's
remaining sets 4 plates and 75 on db stiff legged
and final set same squat and 85's on stiff legged

finished 4 sets lying leg curls 140/145/150/150 sets 10/10/10/8

calves seated calf raise x5..
set 1.. 2 plates x20
set 2..3 plates x15
set 3..3.5 plates x15
set 4..3.5 same
set 5 3.5 x10,drop to 3 for 10.drop 2.5 x10

i do 8-10 full reps and do some reps top portion to flat and then bottom stretch to dame flat midpoint..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 06, 2015, 11:25:03 PM
Here, have a seat Steve

(http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/LTWT_WHEELCHAIR_LRG_6.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 07, 2015, 06:37:07 AM
Here, have a seat Steve

(http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/LTWT_WHEELCHAIR_LRG_6.jpg)
lmao,,,great..u aren't kidding..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 07, 2015, 06:45:11 AM
lmao,,,great..u aren't kidding..

No battle, no glory ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 07, 2015, 06:45:43 AM
No battle, no glory ;)
true...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 08, 2015, 08:03:57 PM
chest

inc press..135/185/195/205
fdb press with hands twisted in top portion palms face in, 65/70/70
decline flyes 40/45/50
cable crossovers x3
dips x2 x20

tris
pushdowns x4 110-150
dip tri machine x3
skull crushers x3 premade curl bar 70/80/80
reverse grip underhand pushdowns x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 08, 2015, 11:59:03 PM
'Back' to basics,

17 super sets of machine assisted pull ups & incline barbell rows (resp emphasis on the stretch & contraction, 6 reps)

It was closing time, so I had no time left for a drop down set, but it was a good workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 09, 2015, 02:07:52 AM
Back...
medium grip chins 4xmax
close undergrip chins 4xmax
wide grip machine rows 3 sets
1 arm DB rows 3 sets
BB pullovers 3 sets

crunch SS leg raises on mat. Cardio crosser 30 mins. decided to do back today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 11, 2015, 02:12:26 AM
legs yesterday...

Home workout.

warm up : leg extensions SS leg curls 3 sets

Squats 4 sets
BB Hack squats 4 sets
Front squats 4 sets
Seated Barbell calf raises 5 sets( Oldie but Goldie)

Abs: seated knee tucks sideways on bench for abs 3 sets.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 11, 2015, 08:49:28 AM
back,,

narrow reverse grip pulldowns x4
low pulley cable rows x3 180-210
tbar row chest to pad 2 plates x3
behind neck pulldowns x3
cable rope to face seated on cable row x3

weighted hypers x3

shrugs x4 on lying chest press good for shrugs 2 plates to 4

calves standing calf raise x5

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 11, 2015, 08:55:08 AM
back,,

narrow reverse grip pulldowns x4
low pulley cable rows x3 180-210
tbar row chest to pad 2 plates x3
behind neck pulldowns x3
cable rope to face seated on cable row x3

weighted hypers x3

shrugs x4 on lying chest press good for shrugs 2 plates to 4

calves standing calf raise x5

abs
solid workout Stevo... even though you have not your usual Bicep work in there your Bis will be worked well... narrow reverse grip i love on chins.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 11, 2015, 10:40:10 AM
solid workout Stevo... even though you have not your usual Bicep work in there your Bis will be worked well... narrow reverse grip i love on chins.
yeah..I've been for few months doing bi's with delts world of difference..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 11, 2015, 10:50:57 AM
yeah..I've been for few months doing bi's with delts world of difference..
Yes the concentration is better on the Bis. Tomorrow i think i will concentrate on curl grip chins and preacher curls for my Bis. Maybe switch it around doing weighted negatives on the chins and then Preacher curls.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 11, 2015, 03:47:59 PM
Pecs

17 super sets of decline DB presses & flat DB flyes
1 triple drop down set of machine presses with 3 30 secs weighted stretches in between & after.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 11, 2015, 03:52:41 PM
Pecs

17 super sets of decline DB presses & flat DB flyes
1 triple drop down set of machine presses with 3 30 secs weighted stretches in between & after.
can you film this
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 11, 2015, 04:06:14 PM
can you film this

Sure, it wasn't too crowded this evening so it was a good moment to do so.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 11, 2015, 04:09:27 PM
Sure, it wasn't too crowded this evening so it was a good moment to do so.
17 supersets ok.. troll on here i will delete you.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 11, 2015, 04:15:55 PM
17 supersets ok.. troll on here i will delete you.

So first I should defend myself and then you threaten me? You're a silly -and reported- moron.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 11, 2015, 04:22:10 PM
So first I should defend myself and then you threaten me? You're a silly -and reported- moron.
I think i am very fair. You are not seriously saying you did 17 supersets. report me to who? Write to Ron. You are calling me a Moron ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 11, 2015, 04:29:42 PM
I think i am very fair. You are not seriously saying you did 17 supersets. report me to who? Write to Ron. You are calling me a Moron ?

Well I am, since my phone is able to count. If you're acting like a moron than I will call you a moron, when you act mature then I will treat you being mature, as simple is that.
Check the mod names above (hint: he's not quite your friend)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 11, 2015, 04:34:58 PM
Well I am, since my phone is able to count. If you're acting like a moron than I will call you a moron, when you act mature then I will treat you being mature, as simple is that.
Check the mod names above (hint: he's not quite your friend)

let me make one thing clear, the mod you "name" i could not care less about. You troll on the mature thread and i will delete you.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 11, 2015, 04:53:18 PM
let me make one thing clear, the mod you "name" i could not care less about. You troll on the mature thread and i will delete you.

The only thing you made clear so far, is that you're an autistic moron
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 11, 2015, 06:11:23 PM
The only thing you made clear so far, is that you're an autistic moron
Mate think about what you are writing... check in tomorrow and we are good.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on June 11, 2015, 06:12:29 PM
Hmmm interesting exchange.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 11, 2015, 06:14:30 PM
Hmmm interesting exchange.
nothing  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on June 11, 2015, 06:24:54 PM
Pecs

17 super sets of decline DB presses & flat DB flyes
1 triple drop down set of machine presses with 3 30 secs weighted stretches in between & after.
Sounds like a workout I'd do. LOL

 :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 11, 2015, 06:29:55 PM
Sounds like a workout I'd do. LOL

 :)
yeah multi sets  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on June 11, 2015, 06:31:18 PM
yeah multi sets  ;D
How's that delete button working for you?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 11, 2015, 06:33:45 PM
How's that delete button working for you?
Mate you can change the name to Wooo and be dumb
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 11, 2015, 06:35:25 PM
chaos the big sheriff in town... who gives a fucking toss
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on June 11, 2015, 06:46:23 PM
I give a toss when the ol lady doesn't want to. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 11, 2015, 06:49:14 PM
I give a toss when the ol lady doesn't want to. ;D
you know what you are such a clown. Infact ban me iīm out of here.. what a kunt
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on June 11, 2015, 06:53:08 PM
you know what you are such a clown. Infact ban me iīm out of here.. what a kunt
I don't have banning powers. :(
But you shouldn't leave, you're such a joyous and positive influence to have here, sharing your vast experience and knowedge.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on June 11, 2015, 07:09:01 PM
I don't have banning powers. :(
But you shouldn't leave, you're such a joyous and positive influence to have here, sharing your vast experience and knowedge.

Donny's a good man and one that ads value to these forums via training knowledge and an excellent sense of humor.  Something sorely lacking in a great many of us that come here. 
 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on June 11, 2015, 07:30:27 PM
Donny's a good man and one that ads value to these forums via training knowledge and an excellent sense of humor.  Something sorely lacking in a great many of us that come here. 
 
I only know of him what he posts here and his PMs to me. He's actually quite rude and full of himself. Because he didn't like DP's workout, he threatens to delete his post? And I've seen him do the same to a couple of other posters. Well now he doesn't have that option so he'll have to learn to communicate like a gentleman. :)
Hope all is well with you!

PS: Donny has not been banned or repremanded in any way, shape or form, any lack of posts or communication from him is solely his choice.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 11, 2015, 08:15:47 PM
guys there are plenty ways to skin a cat,,all workouts whether power influenced,superstting/tri setting,total body all work in conjunction around ones time for that day or even planning a week of more complex and various workouts,,,good to break it up ..my 2 cents...

tonite i trained home delts/bi's felt off usual game went for pump,i mowed the lawn and did some watering'steaming here heat wise'prior so i was already a step back and i never have off day 'meaning output/energy/pump.today i forced it :-\..

i did 4 trisets should db press/side laterals/cable uprights

3 sets bent over seat rear delt raise

3 sets bentover v raises 'i start db at shins bent over and make a v straight out and up

2 sets seated fr raise

bis \curl bar superset db curls
concetration curls hammer grip w reverse curls
finished curl bar hanging rested side knees locked and curl up 'your bent over doing them'no homo'like a preacher curl minus bench'

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on June 11, 2015, 08:35:30 PM
Wow, Donny melted quicker than an ice cream cone on a humid New York summer day  :D :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on June 11, 2015, 08:38:30 PM
let me make one thing clear, the mod you "name" i could not care less about. You troll on the mature thread and i will delete you.

Not any more.  :D :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 12, 2015, 01:54:03 AM
fact is there is only one MOD on here who i have a problem with. He sits on the fence waiting to abuse his "powers". Being called a moron repeatidly by a guy who dishes out more than his fair share of sarcasm on the Boards then after he got abusive i deleted 1 post. Then this jerk off calls the MOD :D to take care of it by changing the name on the thread to "Wooo". What a childish act by a grown man? I notice other people are getting this treatment too by the fatso bald man. I just wonder if i called Fatso a moron repeatedly how long would it be before i got banned. Itīs all one sided on here. reacts like a small child. I think i will open a new Mature thread on the History section and the Mature people on here can come over and post further. the Training section is getting to be a joke because of one Individual.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on June 12, 2015, 04:34:30 AM
How's that delete button working for you?
How is Donny able to delete DP's post?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 12, 2015, 04:39:42 AM
fact is there is only one MOD on here who i have a problem with. He sits on the fence waiting to abuse his "powers". Being called a moron repeatidly by a guy who dishes out more than his fair share of sarcasm on the Boards then after he got abusive i deleted 1 post. Then this jerk off calls the MOD :D to take care of it by changing the name on the thread to "Wooo". What a childish act by a grown man? I notice other people are getting this treatment too by the fatso bald man. I just wonder if i called Fatso a moron repeatedly how long would it be before i got banned. Itīs all one sided on here. reacts like a small child. I think i will open a new Mature thread on the History section and the Mature people on here can come over and post further. the Training section is getting to be a joke because of one Individual.

Guess you overdid the creatine.. You don't need a ban, but you do need a vacation, preferably at a place with no weights and internet connection.
All of this because of the number of super sets I did ::)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on June 12, 2015, 04:47:10 AM
Donny you are ass up. You act maturely in the gossip and opinion threads as far as training threads go. But in here you sometimes behave silly and get your pantys in a knot. And you are a good guy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 12, 2015, 04:52:50 AM
"pantys in a knot".. I love those Aussie sayings :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on June 12, 2015, 06:39:37 AM
fact is there is only one MOD on here who i have a problem with. He sits on the fence waiting to abuse his "powers". Being called a moron repeatidly by a guy who dishes out more than his fair share of sarcasm on the Boards then after he got abusive i deleted 1 post. Then this jerk off calls the MOD :D to take care of it by changing the name on the thread to "Wooo". What a childish act by a grown man? I notice other people are getting this treatment too by the fatso bald man. I just wonder if i called Fatso a moron repeatedly how long would it be before i got banned. Itīs all one sided on here. reacts like a small child. I think i will open a new Mature thread on the History section and the Mature people on here can come over and post further. the Training section is getting to be a joke because of one Individual.
Who else gets this treatment from me?
Fact is, out of the few people that post on this board, you are the only one with a problem, you are one of the few that's attacking people, you are the only one I've had to ban, you are the only one that's had your gimmick banned, you are the one with the power trip "I can't delete posts in the mature thread so I'm going to run away"
Hahaa,  grow up, you're supposedly an old ass man having a hissy fit cause you can't bully people in the mature thread anymore.

I'm far from abusive with my powers, I think I'm pretty lax and fair with how I treat people.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 12, 2015, 07:43:55 AM
lets get this panned out ,,cmon I don't want to travel to another board to start a new thread,,this is easy and well established ,hundreds pages now ;D..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on June 12, 2015, 08:32:03 AM
lets get this panned out ,,cmon I don't want to travel to another board to start a new thread,,this is easy and well established ,hundreds pages now ;D..
This thread isn't moving and it's not being unstickied.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 12, 2015, 09:33:37 AM
This thread isn't moving and it's not being unstickied.
8)...BUT DONNY IS ALWAYS HERE ,IT WILL BE ME AND DP TILL JAY GETS BACK,ITS HIS BABY..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on June 12, 2015, 09:42:43 AM
8)...BUT DONNY IS ALWAYS HERE ,IT WILL BE ME AND DP TILL JAY GETS BACK,ITS HIS BABY..
No problem with Donny being here, the ball is 100% in his court.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on June 12, 2015, 10:11:53 AM
Internet is serious business.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 12, 2015, 10:58:43 AM
Internet is serious business.

Validating the number of super sets is even more serious..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 13, 2015, 09:17:25 AM
wtf...this turned ugly and now pm's on the matter..this was great thread and everybody kept it pretty clear.now what?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on June 13, 2015, 09:29:01 AM
wtf...this turned ugly and now pm's on the matter..this was great thread and everybody kept it pretty clear.now what?
Well, take an objective look at what's happening. One person angry and vindictive, PMing and scheming.
*sigh*
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 13, 2015, 09:32:04 AM
wtf...this turned ugly and now pm's on the matter..this was great thread and everybody kept it pretty clear.now what?

Well, I feel no need to continue a useless debate. If Donny doesn't believe me, then that's his problem.

Here's my leg workout from today,

8 super sets of leg presses with machine adductions
1 triple drop down set of leg extentions with 30 sec weighted stretches in between
1 triple drop down set of leg curls with 30 sec weighted stretches in between
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 13, 2015, 09:36:00 AM
seems the parties involved are standing there ground...so this thread will slow to a slow death now..i stay on g/o board mostly after stopping here every day ,,so that's all folks..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 13, 2015, 09:50:22 AM
Which is easier to say, an apology or an insult?  Now then, which is easier to make and keep, a friend or an enemy?

It is much easier to make an enemy.  It takes little effort while making a friend requires a lifetime of effort.  Having said that, which would any of us rather have?

I am as guilty of being an ass at times as any that come here and while I don't lose sleep over it I would rather not lose a friend.   Ergo I will sometimes delete a post or two that I know has no business being here and if necessary, apologize.  

We all have our differences but in the end we have more in common.   Training for one.  Being human, for another.  

Wise words.

It was never my intention to make enemies in this mature(!) thread, but I'm not the kind of man that remains silent.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on June 13, 2015, 09:59:57 AM
Which is easier to say, an apology or an insult?  Now then, which is easier to make and keep, a friend or an enemy?

It is much easier to make an enemy.  It takes little effort while making a friend requires a lifetime of effort.  Having said that, which would any of us rather have?

I am as guilty of being an ass at times as any that come here and while I don't lose sleep over it I would rather not lose a friend.   Ergo I will sometimes delete a post or two that I know has no business being here and if necessary, apologize.  

We all have our differences but in the end we have more in common.   Training for one.  Being human, for another.  
Some people won't recieve your message and if they do get it, you may find yourself recieving nasty PMs right quick here. LOL
This thread was started with the intent for mature people to converse and even debate about workouts and life in a civil, non threatening manner. I've only stepped in a few times to keep the peace when things get out of line, whether it's a regular to this thread or someone from g&o looking to stir things up. Makes no difference to me, I think everyone wants(?) this thread to be a place were they can feel confortable talking with one another and when one poster starts to bully or threaten others, then it's no longer a "safe" place to post.
You, Sir Scott are a wise man.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 13, 2015, 10:28:30 AM
Some people won't recieve your message and if they do get it, you may find yourself recieving nasty PMs right quick here. LOL
This thread was started with the intent for mature people to converse and even debate about workouts and life in a civil, non threatening manner. I've only stepped in a few times to keep the peace when things get out of line, whether it's a regular to this thread or someone from g&o looking to stir things up. Makes no difference to me, I think everyone wants(?) this thread to be a place were they can feel confortable talking with one another and when one poster starts to bully or threaten others, then it's no longer a "safe" place to post.
You, Sir Scott are a wise man.
IT WOULD BE GREAT IF EVERYONE COULD PUT ASIDE DIFFERENCES AND MOVE ON,,,CAUSE THIS THREAD IS INFORMATIVE/HAS SOME OF LIFES UPS AND DOWNS/GREAT STORIES/FAMILY TALK/AND GENERAL LIKING OF ONE AN ANOTHER..AND I GET TO POSE SEMI NAKED AS WELL :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on June 13, 2015, 02:45:58 PM
..AND I GET TO POSE SEMI NAKED AS WELL :P
You can just send those to my inbox, stud. :-*
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on June 13, 2015, 04:29:03 PM
After his flow, he will return.  :D  On a serious note, something so trivial is not worth getting upset over.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 13, 2015, 06:19:06 PM
You can just send those to my inbox, stud. :-*
sure sweetcakes  :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 13, 2015, 09:06:34 PM
Donny is a good man. 
x2
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on June 13, 2015, 09:06:46 PM
Donny is a good man. 
Time will tell.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on June 14, 2015, 12:08:57 AM
Donny will be back.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 14, 2015, 01:54:43 AM
Itīs clear that on here one mod will always take a stand against me so let him run this thread as he wishes. I have contacted a couple of good people on here about starting a new thread on another board. Itīs best all round then he can give his advice  :D and ban who he wants. The other mod on here is always polite and is more open(no problem with him). thank you to the two people who ruined it. End of the matter.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on June 14, 2015, 02:32:49 AM
Time to act mature and put differences aside, so that this great thread can continue.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 14, 2015, 02:36:34 AM
Itīs clear that on here one mod will always take a stand against me so let him run this thread as he wishes. I have contacted a couple of good people on here about starting a new thread on another board. Itīs best all round then he can give his advice  :D and ban who he wants. The other mod on here is always polite and is more open(no problem with him). thank you to the two people who ruined it. End of the matter.

Typical victim mentality, you don't understand the concept of reflection. It's pretty simplistic to call people 'good people' when they don't criticize you. Not sure why, but you seem very sensitive for criticism.
Anyway, when you behave mature than I will treat you as mature.

End of the matter and 17 means 17
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on June 14, 2015, 07:36:33 AM
Itīs clear that on here one mod will always take a stand against me so let him run this thread as he wishes. I have contacted a couple of good people on here about starting a new thread on another board. Itīs best all round then he can give his advice  :D and ban who he wants. The other mod on here is always polite and is more open(no problem with him). thank you to the two people who ruined it. End of the matter.
I'll address this once.
YOU were the only one ever to consistently create problems in this thread, you were the one that tried to bully people or else you'd delete their posts. I never followed you around this thread, I didn't threaten you with this thread until YOU took it upon yourself to attack others. Let's be honest,  you're mad cause I removed you as the first poster of this thread which is what gave you the power to delete posts,  so now that you can't control the thread you're throwing a fit and want to run away. Completely immature!
If that's what people want to follow, so be it,  but this thread will remain here for anyone and everyone that chooses to post in it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on June 14, 2015, 08:21:00 AM
I'll address this once.
YOU were the only one ever to consistently create problems in this thread, you were the one that tried to bully people or else you'd delete their posts. I never followed you around this thread, I didn't threaten you with this thread until YOU took it upon yourself to attack others. Let's be honest,  you're mad cause I removed you as the first poster of this thread which is what gave you the power to delete posts,  so now that you can't control the thread you're throwing a fit and want to run away. Completely immature!
If that's what people want to follow, so be it,  but this thread will remain here for anyone and everyone that chooses to post in it.
ok champ...  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Princess L on June 14, 2015, 09:53:08 AM
After his flow, he will return.  :D  On a serious note, something so trivial is not worth getting upset over.

X2

What some people here and elsewhere don't "get" is that there is chaos the poster and chaos the mod.  They are not friends with each other.  When people remove their jaded glasses they'll (hopefully) see things in a clearer light.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on June 14, 2015, 10:39:55 AM

X2

What some people here and elsewhere don't "get" is that there is chaos the poster and chaos the mod.  They are not friends with each other.
Lol ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Davidtheman100 on June 14, 2015, 10:48:56 AM
Typical victim mentality, you don't understand the concept of reflection. It's pretty simplistic to call people 'good people' when they don't criticize you. Not sure why, but you seem very sensitive for criticism.
Anyway, when you behave mature than I will treat you as mature.

End of the matter and 17 means 17


Very true just like how Dennis Rodman calls Kim Jong Un a good man just because they sit next to one and other at charity events in North Korea and they both like the game of basketball and they both like hookers and transgendered...Doesn't mean Jong Un won't kill his uncle over some negative comments said about him  ::)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 14, 2015, 02:13:11 PM
How are everyone's work out routines going. Anyone trying some new lifts/exercises they would care to share?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 14, 2015, 04:17:23 PM
How are everyone's work out routines going. Anyone trying some new lifts/exercises they would care to share?

Well, 'anyone' seems only Chaos and yours truly, all the 'good people' are gone :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SF1900 on June 14, 2015, 05:47:24 PM
Which is easier to say, an apology or an insult?  Now then, which is easier to make and keep, a friend or an enemy?

It is much easier to make an enemy.  It takes little effort while making a friend requires a lifetime of effort.  Having said that, which would any of us rather have?

I am as guilty of being an ass at times as any that come here and while I don't lose sleep over it I would rather not lose a friend.   Ergo I will sometimes delete a post or two that I know has no business being here and if necessary, apologize.  

We all have our differences but in the end we have more in common.   Training for one.  Being human, for another.  

But you still have not apologized for being a conservative.  :-\ :-\ :'( :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 14, 2015, 05:53:46 PM
leg day...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 14, 2015, 06:52:22 PM
Well, 'anyone' seems only Chaos and yours truly, all the 'good people' are gone :D

Hope there is some kind of reconciliation in the near future. There are no good or bad people here, that is what has been so enjoyable about this thread. It's just a place where people with a common interest come together posting their routines and experiences with weight training, exercise and sometimes a little friendly chat. There are threads all over Getbig where folks can act like a bunch of roosters, trying to be the big cock in the pecking order of the chicken pen.
Title: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 14, 2015, 08:25:39 PM
so todays workout will be chest...

Incline BB press 4 sets
Incline flys 4 sets
Decline BB press 4 sets
Decline flys 4 sets

abs/ cardio will do as i feel.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 15, 2015, 04:08:02 AM
Training delts and triceps today like Yates using one set to failure after warm up. Getting a little sick of training to failure but it's a really efficient and quick way of working out.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: jpm101 on June 15, 2015, 08:59:44 AM
History is for stories and memories of great men and moments in BB'ing and lifting. Of men with experience and accomplishments, who have risen above the norm.

Now it seems that donny wants to pollute this classic site with his mature angle. He has abandon  the original Mature Thread (or so it's seems) on the Training Q&A board due to his unstable emotional condition; violent mood swings. Disagreeing with donny only brought out his  worse personal attacks on you. Followed by endless PM, as to how he was going to punch you out, etc. A adult dialog, about different training styles, was certainly out of the question with donny.

The original Mature Thread (on Training Q&A) had maybe half a dozen regulars, who never seemed to catch on that donny was  playing them for the fool. Takes all kinds, I guess.

Maybe donny's mature scheme stays on this site, I really don't know or care. But do doubt that this is the proper place for such a downgrading, and let's face it..boring, thread on the one of a kind History...Memories site.

Thank you
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 15, 2015, 10:12:22 AM
History is for stories and memories of great men and moments in BB'ing and lifting. Of men with experience and accomplishments, who have risen above the norm.

Now it seems that donny wants to pollute this classic site with his mature angle. He has abandon  the original Mature Thread (or so it's seems) on the Training Q&A board due to his unstable emotional condition; violent mood swings. Disagreeing with donny only brought out his  worse personal attacks on you. Followed by endless PM, as to how he was going to punch you out, etc. A adult dialog, about different training styles, was certainly out of the question with donny.

The original Mature Thread (on Training Q&A) had maybe half a dozen regulars, who never seemed to catch on that donny was  playing them for the fool. Takes all kinds, I guess.

Maybe donny's mature scheme stays on this site, I really don't know or care. But do doubt that this is the proper place for such a downgrading, and let's face it..boring, thread on the one of a kind History...Memories site.

Thank you
you donīt like this thread .. donīt post on it. Really that simple.
Good Luck  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 15, 2015, 01:17:04 PM
Hope there is some kind of reconciliation in the near future. There are no good or bad people here, that is what has been so enjoyable about this thread. It's just a place where people with a common interest come together posting their routines and experiences with weight training, exercise and sometimes a little friendly chat. There are threads all over Getbig where folks can act like a bunch of roosters, trying to be the big cock pecking order of the chicken pen.

100% agree with the bold part, but some people tend to think in good or bad..

Arm-ed and dangerous day,

10 supersets of seated single DB extentions & single incline DB curls
1 triple drop down set of kneeled cable extentions with weighted stretches in between
1 triple drop down set of incline DB curls with weighted stretches in between

Game, set & pump
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 16, 2015, 02:05:13 AM
Will train legs tonight. i will use the giant sets principle. I will be one of the last to use the Gym tonight so equipment being free will be no problem.

Giant set::

Squats
Lying leg curls
leg extensions
stiff legged DB deads
seated leg press

giant sets can be used for antagonistic muscle groups as well as a single muscle group. sets i will go by feel.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 16, 2015, 03:07:21 PM
Trained back Yates style. No warm up listed.

Power cleans and a jerk 3 x 3
Deadlifts 1 x 8

Pull ups 1 x max
Low Cable row 1 x 15
Dumbbell row 1 x 15
Reverse pull down 1 x 10

Stiff leg dead 1 x 8
Weighted back extensions 1 x 20
weighted crunches 1 x 55

Ended the work out with a two mile run in near 90 degree humid heat. Ran slow about 8:45 miles. Just shot from lifting but I sweated a bucket. Looks like I'm 10 pounds away from where I want to be. Maybe 3 more weeks. 
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 16, 2015, 03:10:52 PM
Trained back Yates style. No warm up listed.

Power cleans and a jerk 3 x 3
Deadlifts 1 x 8

Pull ups 1 x max
Low Cable row 1 x 15
Dumbbell row 1 x 15
Reverse pull down 1 x 10

Stiff leg dead 1 x 8
Weighted back extensions 1 x 20
weighted crunches 1 x 55

Ended the work out with a two mile run in near 90 degree humid heat. Ran slow about 8:45 miles. Just shot from lifting but I sweated a bucket. Looks like I'm 10 pounds away from where I want to be. Maybe 3 more weeks. 
Great old school workout .. running you gotta do  ;)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 16, 2015, 06:28:26 PM
chest /tri/abs

inc press 135x2 warmup...185/195/205-185drop
hammer flat press,,x3 plate and half x1 and 2 plates x2
decline flyes x3 40/45/45
cable crossovers x3 x12
seated chest press upright version'stack'typex3

tris
lying skullcrusher put a spin on them did 1 rep then press rep,then 4th rep in did 2 press reps per 1 nose breaker till failure..
tricep pushdowns x4
dip  machine x3
lying dbell extensions across face side of head and extend x2

abs

new pic classic pose.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 16, 2015, 08:21:11 PM
NJFlex, I ran on the Lavalette boardwalk yesterday. When you come down you have to try the new Cuban restaurant on SH 35 north in Ortley. That's the town just south of Lavalette.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 17, 2015, 02:03:09 AM
I'm thrilled that this tread is catching on. Can't post a workout routine just yet and when I finally do, it will be wimpy without a doubt. I headed for a long recovery and hopeful that muscle memory is real.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 17, 2015, 04:15:30 AM
Prime, long recovery? What happened?
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 17, 2015, 04:52:41 AM
NJFlex, I ran on the Lavalette boardwalk yesterday. When you come down you have to try the new Cuban restaurant on SH 35 north in Ortley. That's the town just south of Lavalette.
I will thanks,i know that whole area ,I just haven't been there in so long...my wife loves Cuban sandwhich so we will check it out..
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 17, 2015, 06:02:54 AM
I will thanks,i know that whole area ,I just haven't been there in so long...my wife loves Cuban sandwhich so we will check it out..

Try the seafood paella. Amazing and made fresh for your order so it takes awhile. Just concerned that once July comes the place will be so packed it will take a long wait to get your food. I have to go one more time in June during the afternoon before the summer craziness begins. My father was Cuban and a chef at the Waldorf in Manhattan when it was the classiest hotel on earth back in the day. I'm telling you this place has good food. I hope it remains that way.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 17, 2015, 09:55:13 AM
chest /tri/abs

inc press 135x2 warmup...185/195/205-185drop
hammer flat press,,x3 plate and half x1 and 2 plates x2
decline flyes x3 40/45/45
cable crossovers x3 x12
seated chest press upright version'stack'typex3

tris
lying skullcrusher put a spin on them did 1 rep then press rep,then 4th rep in did 2 press reps per 1 nose breaker till failure..
tricep pushdowns x4
dip  machine x3
lying dbell extensions across face side of head and extend x2

abs

new pic classic pose.


  

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Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 18, 2015, 06:27:27 AM
chest /tri/abs

inc press 135x2 warmup...185/195/205-185drop
hammer flat press,,x3 plate and half x1 and 2 plates x2
decline flyes x3 40/45/45
cable crossovers x3 x12
seated chest press upright version'stack'typex3

tris
lying skullcrusher put a spin on them did 1 rep then press rep,then 4th rep in did 2 press reps per 1 nose breaker till failure..
tricep pushdowns x4
dip  machine x3
lying dbell extensions across face side of head and extend x2

abs

new pic classic pose.


  

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Good inner chest detail, that's still a point I work hard to improve.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2015, 12:01:59 PM
BACK

CHINS WIDE GRIP X2 X15...INNER SIDE GRIP X2 X12
BENT OVER ROWS X3 185/205/225
MACHINE ROWS CHEST TO PAD SEATED 'STACK VERSION'175/190/190
UNDERHANDED GRIP REVERSE HAMMER PULLDOWNS 2 PLATES/2 SETS 2 PLATES AND 10 PER SIDE..
STANDING STRETCH /PULLDOWN CABLE X3 REVERSE GRIP 'LIKE A STANDING PULLOVER'


WEIGHTED HYPERS X3 45 LB PLATE X12-25

SHRUGS'TRAPS'
225/275/315
 REVERSE SHRUGS 275 X2

ABS
5 SETS 30-40 REPS LYING CRUNCH ROLLER MACHINE

CALVES X3 STANDING CALF RAISES DROP 200/180/160/140 10 REPS PER...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2015, 12:03:28 PM
BACK

CHINS WIDE GRIP X2 X15...INNER SIDE GRIP X2 X12
BENT OVER ROWS X3 185/205/225
MACHINE ROWS CHEST TO PAD SEATED 'STACK VERSION'175/190/190
UNDERHANDED GRIP REVERSE HAMMER PULLDOWNS 2 PLATES/2 SETS 2 PLATES AND 10 PER SIDE..
STANDING STRETCH /PULLDOWN CABLE X3 REVERSE GRIP 'LIKE A STANDING PULLOVER'


WEIGHTED HYPERS X3 45 LB PLATE X12-25

SHRUGS'TRAPS'
225/275/315
 REVERSE SHRUGS 275 X2

ABS
5 SETS 30-40 REPS LYING CRUNCH ROLLER MACHINE

CALVES X3 STANDING CALF RAISES DROP 200/180/160/140 10 REPS PER...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 18, 2015, 12:14:29 PM
Back as well.. Got some lower back & brachialis issues during my workout, so I was forced to work around it, which is almost impossible.

4 super sets of machine assisted pull ups with neutral grip / BB rows
2 super sets of shoulder wide neutral pull downs with single DB rows
2 super sets of shoulder wide neutral pull downs with seated cable rows

Lots of stretches and some ab work to ease the lower back pain.

Not a satisfying workout this time :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2015, 12:40:48 PM
Back as well.. Got some lower back & brachialis issues during my workout, so I was forced to work around it, which is almost impossible.

4 super sets of machine assisted pull ups with neutral grip / BB rows
2 super sets of shoulder wide neutral pull downs with single DB rows
2 super sets of shoulder wide neutral pull downs with seated cable rows

Lots of stretches and some ab work to ease the lower back pain.

Not a satisfying workout this time :-\
how many pullups/chins do you do just normally??I write chins but its pullups I do..
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 18, 2015, 12:42:38 PM
Try the seafood paella. Amazing and made fresh for your order so it takes awhile. Just concerned that once July comes the place will be so packed it will take a long wait to get your food. I have to go one more time in June during the afternoon before the summer craziness begins. My father was Cuban and a chef at the Waldorf in Manhattan when it was the classiest hotel on earth back in the day. I'm telling you this place has good food. I hope it remains that way.


Paella is one of my favorite dishes to make. Mine is a combo of seafood, chicken and sausage. Darn that Saffron is so expensive to buy in the U.S.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 18, 2015, 12:58:44 PM
how many pullups/chins do you do just normally??I write chins but its pullups I do..

Since a couple of weeks, my volume goal is 100 reps per super set exercise. I perform 17x6, 12x8, 10x10 or 8 sets of 12 reps. I've got a spreadsheet on my phone that picks a random set/rep scheme, so you can call that 'random hit in order' ;D

I prefer pull ups over pull downs/chins since there's less margin for cheating.
We have this +20 year old Technogym dip/chin machine, a great piece of equipment.

(http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mjXqPck86I7Dmt4DdAV3rzA.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 18, 2015, 01:36:58 PM
The gym where I should be working out right this moment has two Nautilus weight assisted pull-up/dip machines. They are a great place to start after a too long layoff.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2015, 01:40:55 PM
Since a couple of weeks, my volume goal is 100 reps per super set exercise. I perform 17x6, 12x8, 10x10 or 8 sets of 12 reps. I've got a spreadsheet on my phone that picks a random set/rep scheme, so you can call that 'random hit in order' ;D

I prefer pull ups over pull downs/chins since there's less margin for cheating.
We have this +20 year old Technogym dip/chin machine, a great piece of equipment.

(http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mjXqPck86I7Dmt4DdAV3rzA.jpg)
cool...I go drops/supers but I still try to move some heavy weights even supersetting/tri sets..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 18, 2015, 02:45:00 PM
The gym where I should be working out right this moment has two Nautilus weight assisted pull-up/dip machines. They are a great place to start after a too long layoff.



Combine this machine with some squats/deads and you have a good overall body workout. Nautilus has nice equipment, esp their bicep & back machines. Long time ago that I was able to use their stuff.

cool...I go drops/supers but I still try to move some heavy weights even supersetting/tri sets..

I try to keep the weights high as well. What's esp important with high volume/short rest intervals is good stamina, so I perform some HIIT cardio on rest days.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2015, 02:53:48 PM
Combine this machine with some squats/deads and you have a good overall body workout. Nautilus has nice equipment, esp their bicep & back machines. Long time ago that I was able to use their stuff.

I try to keep the weights high as well. What's esp important with high volume/short rest intervals is good stamina, so I perform some HIIT cardio on rest days.
AGREE I MOVE QUICK AS WELL HAVE GREAT STAMINA NEVER TIRE,I DO ZERO CARDIO,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 18, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
AGREE I MOVE QUICK AS WELL HAVE GREAT STAMINA NEVER TIRE,I DO ZERO CARDIO,,,

I'm a lazy fucker, so I need my cardio ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 18, 2015, 03:34:43 PM
AGREE I MOVE QUICK AS WELL HAVE GREAT STAMINA NEVER TIRE,I DO ZERO CARDIO,,,

Zero cardio is a real plus for me. It is friggin' boring to do cardio long enough to get any benefit from it. -Max, I'll do a ten minute warm-up on the stationary bike or treadmill. When I still could go for a run outside, this was okay. At least there is usually something new to look at when running on the streets or paths and one can take different routes too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 18, 2015, 03:38:40 PM
Zero cardio is a real plus for me. It is friggin' boring to do cardio long enough to get any benefit from it. -Max, I'll do a ten minute warm-up on the stationary bike or treadmill. When I still could go for a run outside, this was okay. At least there is usually something new to look at when running on the streets or paths and one can take different routes too.

Try HIIT cardio, about 20 minutes of peace is enough. I use a HIIT app on my phone, works perfect.
Running is OK as long as you're joints don't complain. I use a bouncer (mini trampoline) myself.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on June 18, 2015, 06:57:14 PM
That Technogym chin/dip station is one of the better functional  pieces of gym equipment made. In truth, that could be the only piece of equipment/machine with regards to size and strength most anyone might desire. With a good chinning/dip chain belt added, of course. Can also work the abs quite well on it.

With dip's, would favor a "V" style bar, allowing a very wide to very close grip..for different results. Same with a chinning bar, which also has a hammer grip style bar. But I have spent many a workout with that simple, but affective, Technogym (or similar stations device). Great for SS's, alternating the chins followed  (non stop) with dips. Done GVT (10X10's) that way with excellent results also.

Can get high quality cardo  work, all based on the fast pace of the individual workout and the compound (usually) exercises used. My uncles use to watch Arnold, Columbo and some English guy(don't know his correct name..not going to guess) do sets together, one after another. Arnold would finish a set, than Columbo would grab the bar and do his set. The English guy would finish with his set. After the English guy, Arnold would would start another set. Did this on benches, rows & squats...around 10 to 12 sets in a three man cycle. This is very fast pace, developing stamina (endurance & strength), taking care of any cardo worries.  Many ways to develop stamina, like 10 reps of squat cleans, in 4 sets. Little rest between.

Good Luck.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 18, 2015, 07:22:44 PM
That TG machine has a V-shaped bar, but that starts midway, so that's fine. The only disadvantage are the thin handles (maybe Italians have small hands, sorry Steve ;D ), so I use my thick bar grips.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2015, 07:27:24 PM
That TG machine has a V-shaped bar, but that starts midway, so that's fine. The only disadvantage are the thin handles (maybe Italians have small hands, sorry Steve ;D ), so I use my thick bar grips.
;D  :-*
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2015, 08:27:26 PM
delt

hammer strenght press did single arm presses,,l/s shoulder is weaker /less range motion so seperate works better on this one x5

laterals side 25/30/30/30 on dbells straight sets 10-12 no drops as usual

front raise premade curl bar used underhanded grip 50/60/60 lbs
cable bent over rear raises x3
finished 2 sets side raises dbell turned straight up and arms slight bend and up high lowered slow like you have 'wings'

bis
premade curl bar 70/80/90
db curls 35/35/35 alternated these bottom position to mid point single arm,then did both for few more then 3 full reps stayed 10-12 mixed them up..theses pump the rep and range motion partials..

seated curl machine did theses seperate arms each set this is a  weight'stack 'machine x3
finished 2 sets 40 lb hammer curls till failure

forarms
reverse bar wrist curls x3
 cable reverse curls x4
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 19, 2015, 12:21:20 AM
front raise premade curl bar used underhanded grip 50/60/60 lbs

This exercise can also be a nice transition when you train chest & shoulders, esp with a narrow grip
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 19, 2015, 09:11:57 AM
This exercise can also be a nice transition when you train chest & shoulders, esp with a narrow grip
yeah i thought so...i go next portion on the grip 'wider'more delt,,there good..picked that one up from charles glass lol,,
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 19, 2015, 10:28:57 AM
Good to see you Guys are good  ;D
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 19, 2015, 10:35:58 AM
I wonīt be pumpin much because i have a Herniated disk c6/7 my neck is hurting. I have therapy next week, injections in the nerve roots under CT. i have to swallow tablets at the moment Oxycodone which are strong. Had numbness in my right hand for a while but ignored it but now i canīt because the pain was very bad. The Hospital here want to operate but no way.. i will try the injections first. shit happens
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: chaos on June 19, 2015, 11:52:17 AM
I wonīt be pumpin much because i have a Herniated disk c6/7 my neck is hurting. I have therapy next week, injections in the nerve roots under CT. i have to swallow tablets at the moment Oxycodone which are strong. Had numbness in my right hand for a while but ignored it but now i canīt because the pain was very bad. The Hospital here want to operate but no way.. i will try the injections first. shit happens
Get well soon, buddy. :)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 19, 2015, 01:48:56 PM
I wonīt be pumpin much because i have a Herniated disk c6/7 my neck is hurting. I have therapy next week, injections in the nerve roots under CT. i have to swallow tablets at the moment Oxycodone which are strong. Had numbness in my right hand for a while but ignored it but now i canīt because the pain was very bad. The Hospital here want to operate but no way.. i will try the injections first. shit happens

Hope this injection works for you.

My son-in-law has nerve/disk damage in his neck as a result of an IED while he was deployed to Iraq. This causes him severe, debilitating migraines, almost daily. He's had steroid shots and Botox. They have not helped. Surgery is a last resort.

I have degenerative disk disease. The disks in my lower back cause nerve pain known as sciatica. About a month ago, I had a couple of steroid injections. They've help somewhat.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 19, 2015, 05:55:53 PM
donny don't break down on us yet :)...get well,,my wife had no choice L5 removed ,,i.5 yrs later still can't run anymore or ever again she did some marathons at one time..
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 20, 2015, 02:17:12 AM
donny don't break down on us yet :)...get well,,my wife had no choice L5 removed ,,i.5 yrs later still can't run anymore or ever again she did some marathons at one time..
as long as i donīt end up looking like Quasimodo... ;D
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 20, 2015, 02:31:53 AM
Thursday they were testing my nerves in my arms... was like torture :-\ woman kept saying relax and then sending signals up my arm... weird watching my hand twitching. problem is the nerves are pressed in my neck and i feel it down my right arm and hand. Professor in the hospital here showed me the pictures and you can see the disk sticks out on the right hand side. He said we have to operate or i could lose more feeling in my hand but i went for a second opinion. Second doctor said the same but does injections under ct. i will try this. i am squeezing a ball all day to keep some power in my hand.. physiotherapist where i go now kindly gave me it. the pills work well though... and they are opium based. Donīt want to take them too long for obvious reasons. told me not to drive my car at the moment...donīt feel high or anything but they make me a bit tired. talking of which...itīs medication time ! ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 20, 2015, 02:41:51 AM
Chest on a Friday evening. The gym was almost empty, which is good for the focus.

10 supersets of flat bench presses & pec dec flyes
1 triple drop down set of flat DB presses with weighted stretches in between

Some shoulder mobility work with bands
Some crunches & hyperextensions to strengthen the core.
I should perform this more often.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 20, 2015, 06:56:37 AM
Thursday they were testing my nerves in my arms... was like torture :-\ woman kept saying relax and then sending signals up my arm... weird watching my hand twitching. problem is the nerves are pressed in my neck and i feel it down my right arm and hand. Professor in the hospital here showed me the pictures and you can see the disk sticks out on the right hand side. He said we have to operate or i could lose more feeling in my hand but i went for a second opinion. Second doctor said the same but does injections under ct. i will try this. i am squeezing a ball all day to keep some power in my hand.. physiotherapist where i go now kindly gave me it. the pills work well though... and they are opium based. Donīt want to take them too long for obvious reasons. told me not to drive my car at the moment...donīt feel high or anything but they make me a bit tired. talking of which...itīs medication time ! ;D
when i got hurt remember thats exactly what happened to me but on its own whole left side twitched and weakened beyond my control.you'll get better what happened??/
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 20, 2015, 07:11:13 AM
when i got hurt remember thats exactly what happened to me but on its own whole left side twitched and weakened beyond my control.you'll get better what happened??/
never had an accident or anything.. i have had a numbness in my hand for a few months now. so i think it has been happening for a while. was at work and had really bad neck pains... then after a few days was ok but my arm and fingers hurt. so i went to the Doc and they sent me for the scan in the Tunnel... and saw what it was.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 20, 2015, 07:17:28 AM
never had an accident or anything.. i have had a numbness in my hand for a few months now. so i think it has been happening for a while. was at work and had really bad neck pains... then after a few days was ok but my arm and fingers hurt. so i went to the Doc and they sent me for the scan in the Tunnel... and saw what it was.
damn,,,,have a happy fathers day 'if u celebrate it in germany'american tradition its tomm btw here...get better man...do cardio if u can,you know how i love cardio  ;D
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 20, 2015, 07:20:43 AM
damn,,,,have a happy fathers day 'if u celebrate it in germany'american tradition its tomm btw here...get better man...do cardio if u can,you know how i love cardio  ;D
well my pulling strength is still OK... leg work i can do if iīm careful. I will go for a run later in the woods. Took my pill ...Man... ;)  donīt feel much now.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 20, 2015, 07:25:17 AM
will be an easy run though, sometimes you have to be careful with cardio and medicine.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: The Scott on June 20, 2015, 08:44:15 AM
I wonīt be pumpin much because i have a Herniated disk c6/7 my neck is hurting. I have therapy next week, injections in the nerve roots under CT. i have to swallow tablets at the moment Oxycodone which are strong. Had numbness in my right hand for a while but ignored it but now i canīt because the pain was very bad. The Hospital here want to operate but no way.. i will try the injections first. shit happens

Donny you are correct.  Excrement doth occur my friend.  ;) I know somewhat what you are going through and wish you all the best in your recovery!

You shall be in my prayers my friend. 
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 20, 2015, 09:47:43 AM
Get well soon, buddy. :)
cheers  :)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 20, 2015, 01:45:09 PM
legs

v squat'hack' 2/3/4/5 plates a side 12/10/10/10
lying sled press x3 180/220/260 10/10/10
80 lb bar walking lunges x2
extensions x4 sets 12-15 210-250

hams
db sldl 60-90's
seated leg curl 180/195/205

calves 5 sets calf raises
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 20, 2015, 01:47:46 PM
legs

v squat'hack' 2/3/4/5 plates a side 12/10/10/10
lying sled press x3 180/220/260 10/10/10
80 lb bar walking lunges x2
extensions x4 sets 12-15 210-250

hams
db sldl 60-90's
seated leg curl 180/195/205

calves 5 sets calf raises
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 20, 2015, 01:54:52 PM
damn,,,,have a happy fathers day 'if u celebrate it in germany'american tradition its tomm btw here...get better man...do cardio if u can,you know how i love cardio  ;D

Germans do celebrate father's day, but on a different day than we do in the U.S.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 20, 2015, 08:06:05 PM
Get well soon Donny.  I am no way comparing my little problem to yours.

 Something strange happened the last time I trained chest and arms. About 2 hours after the workout my left hand went completely numb. It felt like I had a ton of Novocaine injected. I couldn't feel anything I thought I was having some kind of cardio vascular event. I ran and took aspirin.  I called my wife who was at work and she wanted me to go to the hospital. I contacted my daughter who is a cardiac nurse. She said it could be a cardio vascular thing but more likely to be a crushed hand nerve. It suddenly occurred to me that my hand hurt using ivanko hand grippers at the end of my workout. I guess my hand swelled pushing on the nerve in my hand. The hand stayed numb for about an hour and then it slowly faded. Just bizarre.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 21, 2015, 12:32:32 PM
Get well soon Donny.  I am no way comparing my little problem to yours.

 Something strange happened the last time I trained chest and arms. About 2 hours after the workout my left hand went completely numb. It felt like I had a ton of Novocaine injected. I couldn't feel anything I thought I was having some kind of cardio vascular event. I ran and took aspirin.  I called my wife who was at work and she wanted me to go to the hospital. I contacted my daughter who is a cardiac nurse. She said it could be a cardio vascular thing but more likely to be a crushed hand nerve. It suddenly occurred to me that my hand hurt using ivanko hand grippers at the end of my workout. I guess my hand swelled pushing on the nerve in my hand. The hand stayed numb for about an hour and then it slowly faded. Just bizarre.

- Temporary carpel tunnel? Usually with carpel tunnel the fingers go numb, but it seems possible that one's whole hand could be affected too. I knew two folks with a more serve form of carpel tunnel, where in one case the nerve was pinched at the elbow and in the other case at the shoulder.

I have carpel tunnel, which acted up in the past. Wearing a wrist brace, especially at night while sleeping helped. I avoided having surgery because there are some complications involved which would impact lifting weights such as a reduced ability to grip.

Anyone who works with their hands or does some manner of repeated hand movement is subject to getting carpel tunnel.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 21, 2015, 07:00:32 PM
fathers day dinner barbecue @home,had dad/sis and her family ,,kids jumped around on slip n slide.i cooked and it was hot out and grill hot as hell

grilled chicken 2 different marinades
london broil marinaded in a steak and chop formula
italian bread
cold pasta salad with pesto,artichokes,sun dried tomatoes,mozzarella,tomatoes  awesome...
sangria  :)
cofee,cookies/icecream for kids,lemon cake,,,i had an oatmeal raisen cookie  ;D just one...
corn on cob on  grill too...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 21, 2015, 08:04:23 PM
- Temporary carpel tunnel? Usually with carpel tunnel the fingers go numb, but it seems possible that one's whole hand could be affected too. I knew two folks with a more serve form of carpel tunnel, where in one case the nerve was pinched at the elbow and in the other case at the shoulder.

I have carpel tunnel, which acted up in the past. Wearing a wrist brace, especially at night while sleeping helped. I avoided having surgery because there are some complications involved which would impact lifting weights such as a reduced ability to grip.

Anyone who works with their hands or does some manner of repeated hand movement is subject to getting carpel tunnel.
back of my hand i feel it and my pinky and next finger.  trouble gripping things but gets a bit better as the day goes on. see if i can work today.
fathers day dinner barbecue @home,had dad/sis and her family ,,kids jumped around on slip n slide.i cooked and it was hot out and grill hot as hell

grilled chicken 2 different marinades
london broil marinaded in a steak and chop formula
italian bread
cold pasta salad with pesto,artichokes,sun dried tomatoes,mozzarella,tomatoes  awesome...
sangria  :)
cofee,cookies/icecream for kids,lemon cake,,,i had an oatmeal raisen cookie  ;D just one...
corn on cob on  grill too...
sounds like you had a great Day...  ;D
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 21, 2015, 08:41:44 PM
It was both my 29th wedding anniversary and of course father's day. Wife made prime rib. Spent most of the day in the pool having a couple of beers. Kids gave me running shorts, beach chair, book and a gift card for a local restaurant. Glad they could all come over from their busy lives. During dinner the conversation was planning our annual kayak trip through the pine barrens. We have a short route that takes us about 4 hours. It's great being out in nature away from people.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 22, 2015, 07:33:40 AM
It was both my 29th wedding anniversary and of course father's day. Wife made prime rib. Spent most of the day in the pool having a couple of beers. Kids gave me running shorts, beach chair, book and a gift card for a local restaurant. Glad they could all come over from their busy lives. During dinner the conversation was planning our annual kayak trip through the pine barrens. We have a short route that takes us about 4 hours. It's great being out in nature from from people.
8) rich..
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 22, 2015, 07:54:07 PM
chest

inc press 135/165/185/195/195-135 drop
fdb press 60/65/65 turn palms facing each other at top'squeeze'
dec db flyes 40/45/45
cable crossovers x3
seated chest press machine x3

tris
lying extensions pre made curl bar 60/70/70 reps mixed in extension and press in the sets get good burn
rope pushdowns x3
did padded portion old school dip extension i use the weighted pullup machine reverse and push down x3
2 sets finish close grip bench till failure

abs
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 23, 2015, 12:20:32 AM
chest

inc press 135/165/185/195/195-135 drop
fdb press 60/65/65 turn palms facing each other at top'squeeze'
dec db flyes 40/45/45
cable crossovers x3
seated chest press machine x3

tris
lying extensions pre made curl bar 60/70/70 reps mixed in extension and press in the sets get good burn
rope pushdowns x3
did padded portion old school dip extension i use the weighted pullup machine reverse and push down x3
2 sets finish close grip bench till failure

abs
like the dec db flyes. looking fine !
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 23, 2015, 03:59:44 AM
Oh well.... wrote off sick  :( what is there to do apart from watch great videos of Bill Grant,Bill pearl,Albert Beckles....  ;) and getbig
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 23, 2015, 04:05:33 AM
Bill Pearl...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 23, 2015, 04:11:20 AM
A great Bodybuilder who did a series of videos still on the web...Bill Grant. The "old school series" by him is good solid advice.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 23, 2015, 05:13:57 AM
like the dec db flyes. looking fine !
u did them I started doing them like'em..just like the trisets for delts...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 23, 2015, 05:22:08 AM
u did them I started doing them like'em..just like the trisets for delts...
yes they are a forgotten exercise for the chest. I donīt understand why people forget the Decline Fly or press. always liked Decline work. more natural than flat press or flys.. or at least for me. Feel my chest more.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 23, 2015, 05:41:50 AM
One thing i find funny is the variations from people i have seen doing Decline Flys with cables. i use cables in the same way as Bells with a decline bench(what is unique is twisting or pronating your hands/tension). some do them standing and that is where i see some strange variations.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 23, 2015, 07:29:30 AM
One thing i find funny is the variations from people i have seen doing Decline Flys with cables. i use cables in the same way as Bells with a decline bench(what is unique is twisting or pronating your hands/tension). some do them standing and that is where i see some strange variations.
CABLES ARE GREAT HAVEN'T DONE THEM IN YEARS....
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 23, 2015, 07:39:47 AM
CABLES ARE GREAT HAVEN'T DONE THEM IN YEARS....
steve you love cables.. :) do a lot more cable work than me. not just chest.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 23, 2015, 09:39:45 AM
steve you love cables.. :) do a lot more cable work than me. not just chest.
I DO FROM TIME TO TIME

SIDE DELT RAISES
FRONT DELT RAISES WITH ROPE OR SMALL BAR
BI CURLS
ALL TRI WORK USUALLY
CABLE SINGLE ARM ROWS STANDING 'LATS'
STANDING PULLDOWNS 'SLIGHT BEND AT WAIST'
UPRIGHTS
FOREARM WORK
SO,,,,YEAH I INCORPORATE IT IN DAILY WORKOUTS..
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 23, 2015, 09:52:28 AM
this cable exercise is very difficult.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 23, 2015, 10:15:53 AM
this cable exercise is very difficult.

I DO A VARIATION OF THOSE...LOVE EM...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 23, 2015, 01:48:29 PM
I rarely had access to a decline bench but they really take off the stress from the shoulder region. I recently saw a video with Yates saying what a great movement it is for chest.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 24, 2015, 05:08:30 AM
I rarely had access to a decline bench but they really take off the stress from the shoulder region. I recently saw a video with Yates saying what a great movement it is for chest.
yes they are very underrated. I remember in my Home gym just sticking a thick block of wood under my bench to make an incline/decline... i used Dumbbells. I mean it was crude but worked.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 24, 2015, 08:10:48 AM
well i am looking forward to my injection in my nerve roots on Friday... should be as you Americans say ...a real Blast ;D  Only thing that is pissing me off is the Queen is over to visit Hohne/ Fallingbostel so it will be very busy. Wife is working so i guess i will take a Taxi back home as i canīt drive at the moment. They said a lot of traffic because of the visit...fuck it, if i am fit enough i will walk. ;)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 24, 2015, 11:05:49 AM
I rarely had access to a decline bench but they really take off the stress from the shoulder region. I recently saw a video with Yates saying what a great movement it is for chest.
Look at the 1:34 mark. OK Bar / dumbbell position can make a small impact such as Gironda neck press which our Stevo likes.. on a flat bench but i have said this over and over again Decline works the whole chest and very well. look at how his whole chest contracts. I trust the sporthochschule Köln because/and my practical experience shows their research studies are correct.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 24, 2015, 04:06:36 PM
well i am looking forward to my injection in my nerve roots on Friday... should be as you Americans say ...a real Blast ;D  Only thing that is pissing me off is the Queen is over to visit Hohne/ Fallingbostel so it will be very busy. Wife is working so i guess i will take a Taxi back home as i canīt drive at the moment. They said a lot of traffic because of the visit...fuck it, if i am fit enough i will walk. ;)

They may not release you unless you have someone to drive you. This is the norm if the doctor gives you an anesthetic. When I've had colonoscopies, they require me to have a driver. They won't release me if I plan to drive, take a taxi or public transportation and if I wanted to walk. Anything happens to you and the doctor is liable. 
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 24, 2015, 07:40:51 PM
back

hammer machine reverse grip pulldowns x3
low cable rows x3 180-210
tbar row standup version chest to pad underhanded wide grip 2 plates ,2 plates and change and 2 plates and 25
standing rope pulls to waist pulldowns/ins x3
db rows off rack x3 90/90/95's

weighted hypers x3

shrugs x4 225/275/295/315
reverse shrugs 225/275

abs

calves x3 drops 200/19/160/140
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 25, 2015, 05:29:41 AM
back

hammer machine reverse grip pulldowns x3
low cable rows x3 180-210
tbar row standup version chest to pad underhanded wide grip 2 plates ,2 plates and change and 2 plates and 25
standing rope pulls to waist pulldowns/ins x3
db rows off rack x3 90/90/95's

weighted hypers x3

shrugs x4 225/275/295/315
reverse shrugs 225/275

abs

calves x3 drops 200/19/160/140
good drills Steve... closest i will get to training is physio later today... :'(
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 25, 2015, 05:32:15 AM
Good thing is the place is right next to me... 1 minute away. Sunny today, will take a stroll afterwards see what is going on outside.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 25, 2015, 05:47:21 AM
good drills Steve... closest i will get to training is physio later today... :'(
great workout nice pump and pretty sore...traps with back is better for me than with delts...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 25, 2015, 05:58:39 AM
great workout nice pump and pretty sore...traps with back is better for me than with delts...
Looks a solid workout.. i have lost so much strength in my right arm. Canīt see it but i feel it. Never mind the girl at the Physio place can help me relax.. ;D
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 25, 2015, 06:40:53 AM
Looks a solid workout.. i have lost so much strength in my right arm. Canīt see it but i feel it. Never mind the girl at the Physio place can help me relax.. ;D
THAT WAS MY LEFT SIDE WEAK LIKE DEAD COULDN'T MOVE A 25LB DBELL OFF MY CHEST  :-\ :o :'(
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 25, 2015, 08:39:11 AM
well physio was good, neck feels stretched :D.. did not get the chick today but a Guy. He does it good though.( no Homo)  ;)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 25, 2015, 08:44:08 AM
gonna put my grill on and eat a nice steak.... all this hard physio makes a man hungry... think iīll leave out the Beer.. probably blow my mind with the Tablets... i will be a sensible boy today.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 25, 2015, 08:50:47 AM
back

hammer machine reverse grip pulldowns x3
low cable rows x3 180-210
tbar row standup version chest to pad underhanded wide grip 2 plates ,2 plates and change and 2 plates and 25
standing rope pulls to waist pulldowns/ins x3
db rows off rack x3 90/90/95's

weighted hypers x3

shrugs x4 225/275/295/315
reverse shrugs 225/275

abs

calves x3 drops 200/19/160/140
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 25, 2015, 11:43:29 AM
Project 3D delts

17 giant sets of seated DB presses, standing DB side raises & standing DB rear raises
1 triple drop down set of machine presses with 30 sec weighted stretches between & after
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 25, 2015, 11:45:08 AM
Project 3D delts

17 giant sets of seated DB presses, standing DB side raises & standing DB rear raises
1 triple drop down set of machine presses with 30 sec weighted stretches between & after
damn I do 4 of those and im cooked
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 25, 2015, 11:59:20 AM
damn I do 4 of those and im cooked

I did a low rep scheme, 6 reps, and no extreme weights, 57 lb DBs on the presses and 31 lb during the raises
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 25, 2015, 12:07:51 PM
I did a low rep scheme, 6 reps, and no extreme weights, 57 lb DBs on the presses and 31 lb during the raises
do seated all 3 with 25lb db 10reps each side/fr/rear x 3 or 4...usually 2nd exercise in after say db or machine fr prresses
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 25, 2015, 12:22:31 PM
do seated all 3 with 25lb db 10reps each side/fr/rear x 3 or 4...usually 2nd exercise in after say db or machine fr prresses

That's a good weight for raises, esp when you perform them strict by lifting from your elbows. I did my side raises a bit explosive with some moderate cheating, since I trained low rep.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 26, 2015, 05:02:07 AM
well first injection done under CT and i never felt much... Doc said i have no permanent nerve Damage so i think it will be OK.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 26, 2015, 08:00:49 AM
well first injection done under CT and i never felt much... Doc said i have no permanent nerve Damage so i think it will be OK.
GOOD TO HEAR DONNY.....


DELTS AND BI'S AT HOME ,,,WHICH IS GOOD AT TIMES ,VERY VERY HOT IN BASEMENT  ;D

TRISETS X4 SIDE/FR/REAR 15 LBS/20/2 SETS 30'S

PRESSES DB 45/50/50

UPRIGHTS WITH CURL BAR X3

FRONT PRESS SEATED WITH CURL BARX3

CABLE HANDLE TO REAR SIDE RAISE X3


BI'S
CURLS WITH CURL BAR BENT OVER ELBOWS TUCKED BETWEEN LEGS X3

DB CURLS X3 DID LOWER PORTION TO MID POINT X3 THEN 6 FULL REPS EACH SET

ACROSS BODY HAMMERS 40/50/50

3 SETS WIDEST PART CURL BAR CURLS
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 26, 2015, 08:05:55 AM
GOOD TO HEAR DONNY.....


DELTS AND BI'S AT HOME ,,,WHICH IS GOOD AT TIMES ,VERY VERY HOT IN BASEMENT  ;D

TRISETS X4 SIDE/FR/REAR 15 LBS/20/2 SETS 30'S

PRESSES DB 45/50/50

UPRIGHTS WITH CURL BAR X3

FRONT PRESS SEATED WITH CURL BARX3

CABLE HANDLE TO REAR SIDE RAISE X3


BI'S
CURLS WITH CURL BAR BENT OVER ELBOWS TUCKED BETWEEN LEGS X3

DB CURLS X3 DID LOWER PORTION TO MID POINT X3 THEN 6 FULL REPS EACH SET

ACROSS BODY HAMMERS 40/50/50

3 SETS WIDEST PART CURL BAR CURLS

Thanks my NJ Bro... canīt wait to workout myself. Home training is also great ! Neck feels good.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 26, 2015, 01:59:04 PM
Trained chest and back today. No warm ups listed.

Pull ups 2 x max
Low cable row 2 x 12
One arm dumbbell row off a bench 2 x 10
Reverse lat machine pulldown 2 x 10
barbell row 1 x 8

Bench press 2 x 6 then 1 x 1
Dumbbell incline 2 x 6
Flat flies 2 x 10
Push ups 2 x max

Deadlifts 2 x4 then 1 x 1
Weighted back extensions 2 x 1

Weighted crunches 1 x 50

Felt completely wiped out when I finished. Going in the pool for some casual cardio then some beers.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: The Scott on June 26, 2015, 04:09:51 PM
First off...Donny I am glad you are working on getting better and I wish you all the best my friend.

Now then, as for training.  Yesterday I did 1 set of two different exercises 30 - 50 reps per body part for my upper body.  I cannot train legs anymore.  I suppose I could train a single leg but that would only make the  fiddler crab leg look even more stupider.  ;D


I am resting today after PT late yesterday afternoon.  I will see about repeating Thursday regimen tomorrow morning. 

Be well gentlemen.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 27, 2015, 02:41:37 AM
Happy Birthday Rich.... (yesterday) ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 27, 2015, 02:49:22 AM
Arms..

13 super sets of laying single DB extentions & incline single DB curls with a twist
1 triple drop down set of kneeled cable extentions with 30 sec weighted stretches between & after
1 triple drop down set of incline DB curls with 30 sec weighted stretches between & after
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 27, 2015, 02:53:02 AM
First off...Donny I am glad you are working on getting better and I wish you all the best my friend.

Now then, as for training.  Yesterday I did 1 set of two different exercises 30 - 50 reps per body part for my upper body.  I cannot train legs anymore.  I suppose I could train a single leg but that would only make the  fiddler crab leg look even more stupider.  ;D


I am resting today after PT late yesterday afternoon.  I will see about repeating Thursday regimen tomorrow morning. 

Be well gentlemen.
cheers Scotty.. :)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 27, 2015, 07:11:41 AM
Donny hope you get well soon. Muscle memory will kick in when it's time to train hard again.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 27, 2015, 07:50:38 AM
Donny hope you get well soon. Muscle memory will kick in when it's time to train hard again.
yes... i am not worried soon get back on track. Good to see you guys posting your workouts.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on June 27, 2015, 08:46:59 AM
DELTS AND BI'S AT HOME ,,,WHICH IS GOOD AT TIMES ,VERY VERY HOT IN BASEMENT  Grin

TRISETS X4 SIDE/FR/REAR 15 LBS/20/2 SETS 30'S

PRESSES DB 45/50/50

UPRIGHTS WITH CURL BAR X3

FRONT PRESS SEATED WITH CURL BARX3

CABLE HANDLE TO REAR SIDE RAISE X3


BI'S
CURLS WITH CURL BAR BENT OVER ELBOWS TUCKED BETWEEN LEGS X3

DB CURLS X3 DID LOWER PORTION TO MID POINT X3 THEN 6 FULL REPS EACH SET

ACROSS BODY HAMMERS 40/50/50

3 SETS WIDEST PART CURL BAR CURLS
 
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 27, 2015, 11:20:01 AM
I train in my basement gym but I told the wife I've been away from commercial gyms for so long it might be fun to do it for a couple of months. For my birthday yesterday she got me a three month membership to a giant chain gym by my house. My best guess is that I will love it for a month. Tolerate it for a month and hate it the last month.  I do love working out in solitude but it's fun to use different equipment and a different environment. They gym is about 50% female.  ;)

On a different topic I stopped using supplements for years. I use to use everything. Whey isolate, creatine, vitamins and all the rest were used. When I stopped using I blamed every bad workout on not having my whey to build muscle. Just recently I caught the bug again. All the magazines are claiming you need extra protein to build muscle. I still don't know if I buy it.  I bought a whey isolate container and I noticed it's really going quickly.  Just found my son who is a runner read it's good for endurance athletes too and started using it. Damn that stuff is expensive.  >:(  ;D  
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 27, 2015, 11:35:02 AM
I train in my basement gym but I told the wife I've been away from commercial gyms for so long it might be fun to do it for a couple of months. For my birthday yesterday she got me a three month membership to a giant chain gym by my house. My best guess is that I will love it for a month. Tolerate it for a month and hate it the last month.  I do love working out in solitude but it's fun to use different equipment and a different environment. They gym is about 50% female.  ;)

On a different topic I stopped using supplements for years. I use to use everything. Whey isolate, creatine, vitamins and all the rest were used. When I stopped using I blamed every bad workout on not having my whey to build muscle. Just recently I caught the bug again. All the magazines are claiming you need extra protein to build muscle. I still don't know if I buy it.  I bought a whey isolate container and I noticed it's really going quickly.  Just found my son who is a runner read it's good for endurance athletes too and started using it. Damn that stuff is expensive.  >:(  ;D  
I like quite workouts at Home too but in a Gym you are motivated to work harder because we all have that instinct to work harder when people are around us. Having said that i have some hard training workouts at Home too. Donīt bother wasting money on supplements. Can drink them for free in the Gym but i shit them out quicker than i can drink them :-X
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 27, 2015, 11:53:16 AM
Do the Trainer Licence Rich that you wanted to do. Nice easy part time job for you. Probably can train there for free too like here. Best of both worlds.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 27, 2015, 12:22:10 PM
I train in my basement gym but I told the wife I've been away from commercial gyms for so long it might be fun to do it for a couple of months. For my birthday yesterday she got me a three month membership to a giant chain gym by my house. My best guess is that I will love it for a month. Tolerate it for a month and hate it the last month.  I do love working out in solitude but it's fun to use different equipment and a different environment. They gym is about 50% female.  ;)

On a different topic I stopped using supplements for years. I use to use everything. Whey isolate, creatine, vitamins and all the rest were used. When I stopped using I blamed every bad workout on not having my whey to build muscle. Just recently I caught the bug again. All the magazines are claiming you need extra protein to build muscle. I still don't know if I buy it.  I bought a whey isolate container and I noticed it's really going quickly.  Just found my son who is a runner read it's good for endurance athletes too and started using it. Damn that stuff is expensive.  >:(  ;D  
I LOVE THE GYM ENVIROMENT ,BUT THIS WEEK WILL BE 3 HOMEWORKOUTS OUT OF 5 ,HAPPENS I HAVE 3 KIDS AND WIFE WORKING WEEKEND NITE SHIFT'NURSE'SO DOWNSTAIRS I GO....TODAYS IS A PUMP WORKOUT TOTAL BODY TYPE...SUPPLEMENT WISE I USE WHEY/MULTI/CREATINE I CYCLE COUPLE TIMES YEAR CURRENTLY OFF IT,I USE A NO SUPPLEMENT 'PILL'FOR FULLER PUMPS ON TRAINING DAYS,GIVES GOOD COSMETIC ENHANCEMENT  :)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 28, 2015, 08:07:15 PM
Tweaked my lower back on leg day. I thought it was just about bullet proof. My legs are weak from distance running and that might have had something to do with it. I started the workout with leg presses.  When I was just doing my warm ups for squats I had 205lbs on the bar and I think I bent over to compensate for my weak legs tweaking my back. Feels all out of wack. Next time I won't pre fatigue my thighs by doing leg presses prior. Lying flat on my back in bed barely moving with this thing. I hope I wake up better and not worst.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 29, 2015, 02:58:26 AM
Tweaked my lower back on leg day. I thought it was just about bullet proof. My legs are weak from distance running and that might have had something to do with it. I started the workout with leg presses.  When I was just doing my warm ups for squats I had 205lbs on the bar and I think I bent over to compensate for my weak legs tweaking my back. Feels all out of wack. Next time I won't pre fatigue my thighs by doing leg presses prior. Lying flat on my back in bed barely moving with this thing. I hope I wake up better and not worst.
hope you feel better Rich... we are dropping like Flys .. was just at my Physio.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 29, 2015, 05:36:31 AM
rich get better/Donny hope u as well...

had a good week of workouts  but only 2 were at gym  :-\,,that pisses me off,tough schedule wife working weekend/kids..

legs at home  :P,,i have very limited leg workout I could do at home,and you all know my leg workouts are intense..so be it

I did extensions hi repped them and supersetted with dumbbell front squats x7 some sets I used wood board under feet
also did db between legs wide stance too x3
db lunges few steps forward and then did them backwards too x3

hams
supesetted standing leg curl 'theses I like cause in my gym we do not have one  :)'stiff legged db with 60's with feet elevated on wood board..x4

i'm actually kinda sore today ..
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 29, 2015, 05:46:53 AM
rich get better/Donny hope u as well...

had a good week of workouts  but only 2 were at gym  :-\,,that pisses me off,tough schedule wife working weekend/kids..

legs at home  :P,,i have very limited leg workout I could do at home,and you all know my leg workouts are intense..so be it

I did extensions hi repped them and supersetted with dumbbell front squats x7 some sets I used wood board under feet
also did db between legs wide stance too x3
db lunges few steps forward and then did them backwards too x3

hams
supesetted standing leg curl 'theses I like cause in my gym we do not have one  :)'stiff legged db with 60's with feet elevated on wood board..x4

i'm actually kinda sore today ..
Change of pace/exercises did you good.. i remember using Iron boots at home for standing leg curls... ;D
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 29, 2015, 06:06:11 AM
Change of pace/exercises did you good.. i remember using Iron boots at home for standing leg curls... ;D
I GUESS,,BUT FOR LEGS A SMALL LOW CEILINGED NO AIR IS NOT MUCH MOTIVATION/FUN,,I STILL WORKED OUT THO MOST PEOPLE WOULD CHALK IT UP TO A MISSED WORKOUT ,,I CAN'T...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 29, 2015, 06:17:48 AM
I GUESS,,BUT FOR LEGS A SMALL LOW CEILINGED NO AIR IS NOT MUCH MOTIVATION/FUN,,I STILL WORKED OUT THO MOST PEOPLE WOULD CHALK IT UP TO A MISSED WORKOUT ,,I CAN'T...
Ha...i know you canīt... get some music on and itīs better. the best thing to have is a window to open and real light fresh air. i remember a basement gym i had with two small windows(even had mesh to stop flies in summer).. air just rushed in.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 29, 2015, 06:18:40 AM
Ha...i know you canīt... get some music on and itīs better. the best thing to have is a window to open and real light fresh air. i remember a basement gym i had with two small windows(even had mesh to stop flies in summer).. air just rushed in.

I FORGOT I HAVE WINDOWS THERE  :o...DUH WONDER WHY I'M CHOKING DOWN THERE,,,LOL...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 29, 2015, 06:22:29 AM

I FORGOT I HAVE WINDOWS THERE  :o...DUH WONDER WHY I'M CHOKING DOWN THERE,,,LOL...
in summer Barefoot,shorts no shirt. Can do what you want. I loved the Breeze coming in. Inbetween sets i looked outside.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 29, 2015, 12:13:33 PM
Worked out in a commercial gym for the first time in years. Here are some of my random observations. The observations are in a rant style paragraph if you care to read.

I found the usual juicers talking "supplements" in hush tones. Some really strong guys doing squats. I can't lift the weight of my youth but damn I tried.  Surprised by the number of old people in there too. I trained way to fast in between sets. I guess I was just excited to be in the place and the weight used suffered but it was a good work out. I just winged it. No plan what so ever. Left the journal at home. Felt free. ;D  Used two different bicep machines after barbell curls. One was okay and one was actually pretty good. Noticed the gym atmosphere was really lacking. No one talking to each other except for two guys. I remember training in gyms where everyone knew each other and there were loud bs sessions going on between sets. They must have had 20 plus treadmills.  Almost all were being walked on. It's a beautiful sunny day in NJ. Why would you want to walk on a hamster wheel indoors?  Right off the bat the girl behind the counter is trying to set me up with a trainer. The trainers that I saw were 20 something girls or this one guy who was fat but I would wager his claim to fame is a big bench number.Too bad benching doesn't make you in shape. My bad shoulder limited me but I actually did  3 sets of dips. I heard my shoulder grind and make popping sounds. It loosened up by my second set. Some 50 something blonde woman kept looking at me like I was a ham sandwich. I tried to avoid eye contact and eventually she stopped trying to get my attention. She was actually not bad but I digress.  

Tomorrow I will be there doing chest and back. The place is so big I had trouble finding stuff.  I guess as I get use to it I will know where everything is. The place has a swimming pool and heavy bag room.  The heavy bag looks like crap but I'd hit it.  I've been in gyms where body part equipment is grouped together. I found that to be very useful. This gym has a seated calf in one place. The leg extension in another and so on. It's like a puzzle you have to figure out.  

Time for me to head to the park for a run. I lifted for delts and arms today. I'm a little shot but I'm shooting for 3 miles. 
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 29, 2015, 12:18:12 PM
Worked out in a commercial gym for the first time in years. Here are some of my random observations. The observations are in a rant style paragraph if you care to read.

I found the usual juicers talking "supplements" in hush tones. Some really strong guys doing squats. I can't lift the weight of my youth but damn I tried.  Surprised by the number of old people in there too. I trained way to fast in between sets. I guess I was just excited to be in the place and the weight used suffered but it was a good work out. I just winged it. No plan what so ever. Left the journal at home. Felt free. ;D  Used two different bicep machines after barbell curls. One was okay and one was actually pretty good. Noticed the gym atmosphere was really lacking. No one talking to each other except for two guys. I remember training in gyms where everyone knew each other and there were loud bs sessions going on between sets. They must have had 20 plus treadmills.  Almost all were being walked on. It's a beautiful sunny day in NJ. Why would you want to walk on a hamster wheel indoors?  Right off the bat the girl behind the counter is trying to set me up with a trainer. The trainers that I saw were 20 something girls or this one guy who was fat but I would wager his claim to fame is a big bench number.Too bad benching doesn't make you in shape. My bad shoulder limited me but I actually did  3 sets of dips. I heard my shoulder grind and make popping sounds. It loosened up by my second set. Some 50 something blonde woman kept looking at me like I was a ham sandwich. I tried to avoid eye contact and eventually she stopped trying to get my attention. She was actually not bad but I digress.  

Tomorrow I will be there doing chest and back. The place is so big I had trouble finding stuff.  I guess as I get use to it I will know where everything is. The place has a swimming pool and heavy bag room.  The heavy bag looks like crap but I'd hit it.  I've been in gyms where body part equipment is grouped together. I found that to be very useful. This gym has a seated calf in one place. The leg extension in another and so on. It's like a puzzle you have to figure out.  

Time for me to head to the park for a run. I lifted for delts and arms today. I'm a little shot but I'm shooting for 3 miles. 
I laughed at your post Rich.. in a positive way ;D
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: funk51 on June 29, 2015, 01:19:16 PM
2 hr w/o today mostly arms good pump for 63 yrs old...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 29, 2015, 01:21:47 PM
Tweaked my lower back on leg day. I thought it was just about bullet proof. My legs are weak from distance running and that might have had something to do with it. I started the workout with leg presses.  When I was just doing my warm ups for squats I had 205lbs on the bar and I think I bent over to compensate for my weak legs tweaking my back. Feels all out of wack. Next time I won't pre fatigue my thighs by doing leg presses prior. Lying flat on my back in bed barely moving with this thing. I hope I wake up better and not worst.

You might consider skipping squats for awhile, particularly heavy squats. Squats are a great exercise when they are done using perfect form. As you suggest, bending over while squatting can be murder on your lower back.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 29, 2015, 01:23:51 PM
hope you feel better Rich... we are dropping like Flys .. was just at my Physio.

How did this go? Are you feeling any better yet? Physical therapy was a Godsend for me.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 29, 2015, 01:28:26 PM
Here goes nothing! I am headed out to the gym for some cardio....and nothing else.

If you recall, the last time I hit the gym I lifted light and dialed my routine way back, or so I thought. I ended up in so much discomfort that I could barely move for almost a week.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 29, 2015, 02:23:38 PM
How did this go? Are you feeling any better yet? Physical therapy was a Godsend for me.
Was great Jay and good to see you back my Friend  :) do that cardio
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 29, 2015, 02:25:40 PM
JAYS A GOOD GUY.HOPEFULLY EACH DAY IS HELPING/COPING/AND GETTING BRIGHTER..
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 29, 2015, 03:48:09 PM
My lower back was sore but doing delts and arms didn't involve lower back to much. Anti inflammatory drugs were in me too.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 29, 2015, 04:25:07 PM
Okay guys here's my report.

Cardio 20 minutes total, 10 minutes on treadmill and 10 minutes on stationary bike (my skinny quads actually got a little pumped doing this). Amazing!
While I was on the bike, I looked down at my arm to see that it was looking pretty vascular and whiter than I ever thought I could be. After the cardio, I tanned for 7 minutes in the fast tan bed.

I know this isn't much, but it's a start. Can't imagine I'll be at all sore. In the meantime my right leg and knee actually feel better....there is less pain than usual. Might have to add a few low weight leg presses and leg extensions tomorrow or Wednesday like I was doing when I had physical therapy.

My exercise over the weekend was a couple of dances on Friday night and lots of walking and stair climbing at the hotel during the three days at Conference. This also made my right leg feel better for awhile. It's pretty obvious I need to be exercising it.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 29, 2015, 04:31:45 PM
Was great Jay and good to see you back my Friend  :) do that cardio

You'll have to remember to keep up with what you've been doing in physical therapy after your sessions are done. An occasional massage would be good too. Just be sure who ever you hire is a professional who knows what they are doing. In the states, professional massage therapists must be licensed by law. Clearly this does not include erotic massage.....darn! Anyway, men do better at giving deep tissue massage because it takes a fair amount of hand and arm strength to do it right.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 29, 2015, 08:08:56 PM
chest

inc db press..60-70-75-55 drop
hammer lying press.2 plates per side x2 and 2plates 25 drop to 2
dec db flye 40/45/50
cable crossoverrs x3
seated chest press x3

tris
skull crushers with premade curl bar 60/70/70 mixed reps 3 skulls then 3 press repeat/repeat scheme..good pump that way
overhead rope extensions x3
reverse padded dips on weighted chin up machine ,good made up exercise hits tris nice if u have machine to do it..x3
pushowns hi rep 15 x3 to finish

abs
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 30, 2015, 12:09:23 AM
I was going to post a photo of skinny me, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. I am loving how vascular my arms are though. I am determined to hit the 175 lb. mark soon. I think it might be the perfect natural weight for me, all things considered.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 30, 2015, 04:36:51 AM
warm today and itīs going to get warmer...may as well enjoy the sun  ;D better cream up my dome otherwise i feel it. lucky i go brown and not red  ;D
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 30, 2015, 04:42:03 AM
2 hr w/o today mostly arms good pump for 63 yrs old...
looking great there Funky Bro... you are still a young Dude... ;) only exercises iīm doing along with physio is tricep work with Rubber bands at Home...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 30, 2015, 06:17:14 AM
Tomorrow the next injection... still got tingling down my arm and slight numbness in hand. the Good news is i am getting by without the Tablets. Pumping my triceps like crazy with the bands...i will get my strength back in my arm ;). Drove the car today and at least i can rotate my neck and backwards with slight pain. you appreciate your health more when shit like this happens.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 30, 2015, 07:38:30 AM
Tomorrow the next injection... still got tingling down my arm and slight numbness in hand. the Good news is i am getting by without the Tablets. Pumping my triceps like crazy with the bands...i will get my strength back in my arm ;). Drove the car today and at least i can rotate my neck and backwards with slight pain. you appreciate your health more when shit like this happens.
8)..keep it up...day off trained 3 days in row..
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 30, 2015, 07:47:14 AM
8)..keep it up...day off trained 3 days in row..
you earned it Steve... i will get back on these Bars.. ;)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 30, 2015, 07:53:58 AM
you earned it Steve... i will get back on these Bars.. ;)


I LOVE THOSE USED IT FOR ABS LAST NIGHT,I TURN TO THE SIDE AND DO SIDE CRUNCHES THAT WAY...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 30, 2015, 07:56:03 AM

I LOVE THOSE USED IT FOR ABS LAST NIGHT,I TURN TO THE SIDE AND DO SIDE CRUNCHES THAT WAY...
yeah me too.. Itīs my Home Gym kit in the picture. Hopefully i get my strength back and Dip again...the Bands are really helping
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: funk51 on June 30, 2015, 08:27:29 AM
you earned it Steve... i will get back on these Bars.. ;)

the power tower is a good piece of equipment here's mine..
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 30, 2015, 08:29:07 AM
the power tower is a good piece of equipment here's mine..
yeah...you got a great Home Gym set up Funk... Rich too.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 30, 2015, 09:16:17 AM
More commercial gym observations. For those that don't know I haven't worked out at a commercial gym in years. It was either my house or work gyms. My wife got me 3 month membership to a giant gym by my house.

 Female trainer working out talking to one of the men who was a conceited tan fellow trainer working out, " I get tired of guys checking me out. I get tired of them walking back and forth by me."  Tanned male trainer who is also full of himself, " Just remember to drink over a gallon of water a day. Are you taking some magic pills because you are so strong" Girl full of herself, " Just a vitamin. People accuse me all the time because I'm in such good shape."  Tanned trainer steroid guy just struts as he walks. It's a comedy show in this gym.  

The place is brand new yet the barbells look like they got them on Craig's list. Practically no knurling on the bars. I had to use straps for deadlifts because I couldn't grip the smooth bar. My back seems to be back. I guess it was a two day thing. Maybe a pinched nerve?

Guys are pretty good here at putting away dumbbells and plates. Just shocked by this. That's a plus.

Another stunning sunny day here in NJ and the treadmills are full of people walking or super slow jogging. Get the f$#k out in the sunshine and enjoy the beautiful day as you work on a tan doing cardio.

I get a little over motivated in a gym with the music pumping and all the people. I have to slow down on how much rest I take between my sets. I'm working out so fast I'm having trouble using the weights I normally do but maybe that's a good thing. Still free winging it. Actually finished chest with some machine benches.

I can see some of the women are here to show off their body which is a plus. Yoga pants I think they call it that look like panty hose.  Two hotties were doing body weight leg kick backs by the squat racks where the men were gathered. They could have done this somewhere else but I'm grateful they put on a show.

If I ask to work in and you say you just have X amount of sets left I really just want to use the equipment. I'm not looking for a date honey.  








Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on June 30, 2015, 10:18:03 AM
More commercial gym observations. For those that don't know I haven't worked out at a commercial gym in years. It was either my house or work gyms. My wife got me 3 month membership to a giant gym by my house.

 Female trainer working out talking to one of the men who was a conceited tan fellow trainer working out, " I get tired of guys checking me out. I get tired of them walking back and forth by me."  Tanned male trainer who is also full of himself, " Just remember to drink over a gallon of water a day. Are you taking some magic pills because you are so strong" Girl full of herself, " Just a vitamin. People accuse me all the time because I'm in such good shape."  Tanned trainer steroid guy just struts as he walks. It's a comedy show in this gym.  

The place is brand new yet the barbells look like they got them on Craig's list. Practically no knurling on the bars. I had to use straps for deadlifts because I couldn't grip the smooth bar. My back seems to be back. I guess it was a two day thing. Maybe a pinched nerve?

Guys are pretty good here at putting away dumbbells and plates. Just shocked by this. That's a plus.

Another stunning sunny day here in NJ and the treadmills are full of people walking or super slow jogging. Get the f$#k out in the sunshine and enjoy the beautiful day as you work on a tan doing cardio.

I get a little over motivated in a gym with the music pumping and all the people. I have to slow down on how much rest I take between my sets. I'm working out so fast I'm having trouble using the weights I normally do but maybe that's a good thing. Still free winging it. Actually finished chest with some machine benches.

I can see some of the women are here to show off their body which is a plus. Yoga pants I think they call it that look like panty hose.  Two hotties were doing body weight leg kick backs by the squat racks where the men were gathered. They could have done this somewhere else but I'm grateful they put on a show.

If I ask to work in and you say you just have X amount of sets left I really just want to use the equipment. I'm not looking for a date honey.  









;D ;D  laughed again Rich. Great your Back is ok... The Yoga hot pants are just what i like... :P :P
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 30, 2015, 11:40:25 AM
2 hr w/o today mostly arms good pump for 63 yrs old...

The photo you posted is very interesting. It took me awhile to make sense of it and realize where your forearm was in the composition.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 30, 2015, 01:53:40 PM
Prime I hope you are getting better emotionally after what you been through.

Donny, I know how much injuries are aggravating. You have the drive to do what needs to be done but your body won't cooperate. I've been there. When I damaged my arm and had an operation it took me 5 to 6 months to get back my strength. I started benching with just the bar and curling 2 pound plates.

 Not to compare problems to Donny's serious injury but I never in my life found it so hard to lose fat. Actually going to see a specialist to see if low testosterone is the problem.  My general doctor says it is from his tests but he wants me to see a urologist to find out the cause and the treatment. Maybe this is why I'm having problems losing fat. I'm in good shape but not up to my standards. Have to wait 4 weeks to see this guy that specializes in this stuff and I have the best insurance. He's just that backed up in patients.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on June 30, 2015, 08:17:52 PM
Prime I hope you are getting better emotionally after what you been through.

Donny, I know how much injuries are aggravating. You have the drive to do what needs to be done but your body won't cooperate. I've been there. When I damaged my arm and had an operation it took me 5 to 6 months to get back my strength. I started benching with just the bar and curling 2 pound plates.

 Not to compare problems to Donny's serious injury but I never in my life found it so hard to lose fat. Actually going to see a specialist to see if low testosterone is the problem.  My general doctor says it is from his tests but he wants me to see a urologist to find out the cause and the treatment. Maybe this is why I'm having problems losing fat. I'm in good shape but not up to my standards. Have to wait 4 weeks to see this guy that specializes in this stuff and I have the best insurance. He's just that backed up in patients.
hows diet?
height/weight?
energy levels/overall body/well being physically...
are u willing to do hrt therapy if given or other means'supplements'there is dhea/daa over counter ,,for t levels
?
height /weight
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2015, 12:16:51 AM
Prime I hope you are getting better emotionally after what you been through.

Not to compare problems to Donny's serious injury but I never in my life found it so hard to lose fat. Actually going to see a specialist to see if low testosterone is the problem.  My general doctor says it is from his tests but he wants me to see a urologist to find out the cause and the treatment. Maybe this is why I'm having problems losing fat. I'm in good shape but not up to my standards. Have to wait 4 weeks to see this guy that specializes in this stuff and I have the best insurance. He's just that backed up in patients.

First, I will comment on your testosterone issues. If your testosterone is low, TRT can make a world of difference. Don't expect miracles though, TRT will not make you feel like you are 20 years old again. I have been on TRT for several years. It seems to me that I feel better and look better. I tend to be thin, so I cannot comment about fat loss. It might help though.

How am I doing emotionally? Tonight I feel like crap. Some days are better than others. Today was hard. I was the last person to see her alive and I was the first person to see her after she passed. The span of time was a mere 15 minutes. I cannot get those images out of my head. I keep thinking she's away on a trip and will be back soon. Logic tells me this isn't going to happen. It hurts!
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 01, 2015, 04:46:06 AM
First, I will comment on your testosterone issues. If your testosterone is low, TRT can make a world of difference. Don't expect miracles though, TRT will not make you feel like you are 20 years old again. I have been on TRT for several years. It seems to me that I feel better and look better. I tend to be thin, so I cannot comment about fat loss. It might help though.

How am I doing emotionally? Tonight I feel like crap. Some days are better than others. Today was hard. I was the last person to see her alive and I was the first person to see her after she passed. The span of time was a mere 15 minutes. I cannot get those images out of my head. I keep thinking she's away on a trip and will be back soon. Logic tells me this isn't going to happen. It hurts!
your last line here is touching and sadly for everyone a part of life...i'm happy we here in this group are in a strange way helpful/comforting as possible despite being strangers..
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 01, 2015, 05:53:16 AM
hows diet?
height/weight?
energy levels/overall body/well being physically...
are u willing to do hrt therapy if given or other means'supplements'there is dhea/daa over counter ,,for t levels
?
height /weight

My diet is just okay. It's one area where a lot of improvement can be made. I drink beer about every three days and of course it's not good for losing weight. I'm 5'8" and 182lbs right now. I would like to be about 172lbs. Don't get me wrong. I look like an athlete but I want to do better. I combine my lifting with what is for me hard running. I'm retired but I just got a job for 20 hours a week. I guess that will lower my beer consumption.  ;D

I don't know if I will do HRT. I have to discuss it with the urologist when I see him in 4 weeks. From what I hear it's for life because after using it for years your LH hormone will be shut down and in turn will shut down your testosterone production. I'm 56 and wonder if I live to 80 is all those years on the stuff good for my health. Right now there are studies saying is thickens the viscosity of blood increasing the odds of heart attacks. Makes you wonder about older guys using recreational steroids that are over 10x the dose of HRT.

I never said I was a bodybuilder. Just a guy into fitness. I look okay but I guess in my mind's eye I remember the physique and how muscular I use to be in years gone by.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 01, 2015, 05:57:07 AM
My diet is just okay. It's one area where a lot of improvement can be made. I drink beer about every three days and of course it's not good for losing weight. I'm 5'8" and 182lbs right now. I would like to be about 172lbs. Don't get me wrong. I look like an athlete but I want to do better. I combine my lifting with what is for me hard running. I'm retired but I just got a job for 20 hours a week. I guess that will lower my beer consumption.  ;D

I don't know if I will do HRT. I have to discuss it with the urologist when I see him in 4 weeks. From what I hear it's for life because after using it for years your LH hormone will be shut down and in turn will shut down your testosterone production. I'm 56 and wonder if I live to 80 is all those years on the stuff good for my health. Right now there are studies saying is thickens the viscosity of blood increasing the odds of heart attacks. Makes you wonder about older guys using recreational steroids that are over 10x the dose of HRT.

I never said I was a bodybuilder. Just a guy into fitness. I look okay but I guess in my mind's eye I remember the physique I remember how muscular I use to be in years gone by.
THERE IS SOME OTC STUFF LIKE I WROTE WITH A DIET THAT CAN HELP,,NOW I'M GIVING YOU INFO HERE,IF THIS WAS GOSSIP BOARD THEY WOULD TELL U TO MAN UP AND GET ON TEST AND ASAP...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 01, 2015, 05:59:10 AM
First, I will comment on your testosterone issues. If your testosterone is low, TRT can make a world of difference. Don't expect miracles though, TRT will not make you feel like you are 20 years old again. I have been on TRT for several years. It seems to me that I feel better and look better. I tend to be thin, so I cannot comment about fat loss. It might help though.

How am I doing emotionally? Tonight I feel like crap. Some days are better than others. Today was hard. I was the last person to see her alive and I was the first person to see her after she passed. The span of time was a mere 15 minutes. I cannot get those images out of my head. I keep thinking she's away on a trip and will be back soon. Logic tells me this isn't going to happen. It hurts!

I feel for you. I hope in time when you think of her it will make you smile instead of feeling pain. I know she wouldn't want you feeling bad about her. May the pain of your loss  dissipate somewhat with memories of happiness about her. I hope what I typed isn't causing you more trouble. Of course it's not my intention. I know the pain will always be there in some capacity.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 01, 2015, 07:55:24 AM
I feel for you. I hope in time when you think of her it will make you smile instead of feeling pain. I know she wouldn't want you feeling bad about her. May the pain of your loss  dissipate somewhat with memories of happiness about her. I hope what I typed isn't causing you more trouble. Of course it's not my intention. I know the pain will always be there in some capacity.
Nice post Rich... :)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 01, 2015, 07:59:02 AM
well just got injection No2 and was OK. They asked about my medication and when i said i stopped taking it 6 days ago i got a dressing down because you should cut it down slowly. Well i can live with the pain at the moment thanks to the injections so i am good. Asked if i felt bad or anything like withdrawals :o sweated a bit more but thatīs about it.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2015, 01:55:24 PM
I feel for you. I hope in time when you think of her it will make you smile instead of feeling pain. I know she wouldn't want you feeling bad about her. May the pain of your loss  dissipate somewhat with memories of happiness about her. I hope what I typed isn't causing you more trouble. Of course it's not my intention. I know the pain will always be there in some capacity.

Thanks. I appreciate your thoughts and advice. 
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2015, 01:58:54 PM
well just got injection No2 and was OK. They asked about my medication and when i said i stopped taking it 6 days ago i got a dressing down because you should cut it down slowly. Well i can live with the pain at the moment thanks to the injections so i am good. Asked if i felt bad or anything like withdrawals :o sweated a bit more but thatīs about it.

It is good the doctor called you on ceasing the meds cold turkey. Lucky for you that you did okay with this. Not everyone does. I don't like taking pain medication either. When it has been prescribed, I have not usually take it to begin with. Not even in the hospital.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2015, 02:09:59 PM
Took my car in for service this morning. My mechanic is next door to the gym. Went to the gym after dropping off the car. Like Monday, I did 20 minutes of cardio on two different pieces of equipment. Additionally, I did 4 sets of 12 leg presses with modest resistance. This went well too.

The shirt I am wearing today hasn't fit me in years. Glad I didn't toss it. It fits fine now that I've slimmed down. -Still have not made the 175 lb. mark. One day my weight is 179 and the next it is 183 lbs. which is likely water weight. Started taking a plant based protein powder. A serving size provides 20 grams of protein at 110 calories. It tastes pretty good too. Gonna have some right now.

Next exercise today will be yard work. There is a lot that needs pruning.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 01, 2015, 06:34:01 PM
Took my car in for service this morning. My mechanic is next door to the gym. Went to the gym after dropping off the car. Like Monday, I did 20 minutes of cardio on two different pieces of equipment. Additionally, I did 4 sets of 12 leg presses with modest resistance. This went well too.

The shirt I am wearing today hasn't fit me in years. Glad I didn't toss it. It fits fine now that I've slimmed down. -Still have not made the 175 lb. mark. One day my weight is 179 and the next it is 183 lbs. which is likely water weight. Started taking a plant based protein powder. A serving size provides 20 grams of protein at 110 calories. It tastes pretty good too. Gonna have some right now.

Next exercise today will be yard work. There is a lot that needs pruning.

Are you using soy protein? I have been thinking about trying it. I hear good things and some bad. Some things I read is that it increases estrogen and other things I read says that's a myth and no studies exist to back that up. They say whey isolate is lactose free but my stomach says that's a lie.  They can claim anything because there is no agency checking supplements.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2015, 06:46:45 PM
Are you using soy protein? I have been thinking about trying it. I hear good things and some bad. Some things I read is that it increases estrogen and other things I read says that's a myth and no studies exist to back that up. They say whey isolate is lactose free but my stomach says that's a lie.  They can claim anything because there is no agency checking supplements.

This has no soy in it. Pea protein is the first ingredient. There are several other vegetable derived proteins as well as protein from brown rice. It's expensive. I bought it at Costco for just under $30. for 1 lb. 11 oz. There are approximately 26 servings per container, so a little over $1. a serving. I've had no gassiness from it, like sometimes happens with Whey based protein products. It is also gluten free. Each serving equals two servings of leafy vegetables. There is another brand available at a nearby market that has additional fiber. My guess is that it is even more expensive than this.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 01, 2015, 08:03:49 PM
back attack

chins 2x wide 2x inner ..
tbar row chest to pad standing version 2 plates 2 sets 2.5 plates
low cable rows 165/189/195
front pulldowns hammer reverse under grip x3 2plates side
cable one arm upper row pulls ,'like doing one arm rows of rack'but using cable x3

weighted hypers 45 lb plate x15 reps

traps
225/275/295/295-225 drop
2 sets 45 lb plate ea hand towards rear a bit shrug 20 reps

calves 5 sets calf raises no drops this time 180/200/220/240/240-200drop

abs 6 sets crunch machine lying

Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 02, 2015, 06:52:12 AM
back attack

chins 2x wide 2x inner ..
tbar row chest to pad standing version 2 plates 2 sets 2.5 plates
low cable rows 165/189/195
front pulldowns hammer reverse under grip x3 2plates side
cable one arm upper row pulls ,'like doing one arm rows of rack'but using cable x3

weighted hypers 45 lb plate x15 reps

traps
225/275/295/295-225 drop
2 sets 45 lb plate ea hand towards rear a bit shrug 20 reps

calves 5 sets calf raises no drops this time 180/200/220/240/240-200drop

abs 6 sets crunch machine lying


I am jealous... miss my workouts... :(
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: The Scott on July 02, 2015, 07:27:59 AM
I am jealous... miss my workouts... :(

Worry not, brother!  Soon  you'll be back at it.  Hopefully not relegated to sets of 30 to 50 reps with five pounds (like me)!  But in all honesty, even that is a start and as such it is good.

 ;D

I have found that what separates us from the others is... us!  We  made the choice to be as fit as we can be throughout our life.   Be well, my friends.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 02, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Worry not, brother!  Soon  you'll be back at it.  Hopefully not relegated to sets of 30 to 50 reps with five pounds (like me)!  But in all honesty, even that is a start and as such it is good.

 ;D

I have found that what separates us from the others is... us!  We  made the choice to be as fit as we can be throughout our life.   Be well, my friends.
words of wisdom Scotty... ;D "Iīll be Back"... ;)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 02, 2015, 08:18:11 AM
itīs warm today... Saturday is warmer or so they say... I would die in some parts of the US.. :-[
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 02, 2015, 12:09:19 PM
itīs warm today... Saturday is warmer or so they say... I would die in some parts of the US.. :-[

Like where I live. It normally is in the high 24's or low 28's with occasional rain. This spring and summer has been really hot, like close to 38 degrees Celsius on several days and there has been no rain. Sure glad I had air-conditioning installed last summer. It's a cool 23 degrees Celsius inside. Unfortunately, there is more yard work which beckons me outside in to the heat.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 02, 2015, 07:33:54 PM
delts

hammer press did single arm at a time,,,x4
front press x3
cable lateralsx3
uprights premade curlbar x3
bent over cable rear laterals x4

bis
curls x4
db single arm curls 6 reps bottom to mid 6 reps full reps done together
seated curl machine one arm at a time x3
hammers x2

forearms
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 03, 2015, 06:18:37 AM
Anyone work on their feet all day? I'm retired but I took a job in a huge library. They are having trouble with the homeless and a large group of heroin addicts that like to hang out in the library. Can you believe in a library there was a bloody assault in one of the bathrooms?  I'm beginning to regret my decision to take the job. The other guards seem straight out of the hood and completely unprofessional. 

My foot was slightly swollen from running after my weight workout a couple of days ago. Now after the first day on this job I can hardly walk on it. This job has me on my feet for 8 hours constantly making loops of the huge two story place with no opportunity to sit down. I know it doesn't sound taxing but I bet I walked over 10 miles.  My foot was so swollen when I came home I could hardly walk on it.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 03, 2015, 06:55:46 AM
Anyone work on their feet all day? I'm retired but I took a job in a huge library. They are having trouble with the homeless and a large group of heroin addicts that like to hang out in the library. Can you believe in a library there was a bloody assault in one of the bathrooms?  I'm beginning to regret my decision to take the job. The other guards seem straight out of the hood and completely unprofessional. 

My foot was slightly swollen from running after my weight workout a couple of days ago. Now after the first day on this job I can hardly walk on it. This job has me on my feet for 8 hours constantly making loops of the huge two story place with no opportunity to sit down. I know it doesn't sound taxing but I bet I walked over 10 miles.  My foot was so swollen when I came home I could hardly walk on it.
work at service desk 10 hours ,but i'm up and around shop/parts area,or outside saving some customer lol from there car god forbid dosen't have radio stations or phone paired into vehicle working..by my posting of workouts and having 3 children 9-2 yrs old you can tell i'm full of crazy and never low energy ever...i'm blessed so far at 46 to be same as i was in 20/30's...i know your older ritch a little and said just recently you feel it ,so i don't i could change at 50 ,i hope not...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 03, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
work at service desk 10 hours ,but i'm up and around shop/parts area,or outside saving some customer lol from there car god forbid dosen't have radio stations or phone paired into vehicle working..by my posting of workouts and having 3 children 9-2 yrs old you can tell i'm full of crazy and never low energy ever...i'm blessed so far at 46 to be same as i was in 20/30's...i know your older ritch a little and said just recently you feel it ,so i don't i could change at 50 ,i hope not...

I hear what you're saying. It's tough. When I was your age I was in fantastic shape. I have 4 kids and worked 10 hour days. I  often had to commute over 100 miles before I retired driving to begin my day. So it was a long day. Can't count how many times I reported for work at 11Pm and had to work 16 hours and drive home in a stupor. I'm not playing can you top this but I am saying I know it's tough.

 There is a big difference between 46 and 56. I'm sure n 10 years I will be a lot harder at 66. No one wins the aging game. I know when I was in high school I use to think it was pathetic that someone couldn't run a sub 6 minute mile. I felt it was the minimum shape you should be in.  I actually had the immaturity to say to the aging coach who ran with us, " age is no excuse."  Damn right it's an excuse. I'm talking outside of drug users it's really rare to find anyone over 55 that is in shape. I know runners in their 30 like to point out the 60 year old who runs fast times as proof it will be them too. I got news for them. It' damn rare thing and the odds are against it.

The hardest part about aging is that the mind is willing. The body through injuries and a lack of adaptation is the problem. If the stars are in alignment and we meet down the shore maybe we can workout together. I think you will find that in both the weight room and running miles I'm not a slouch.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 03, 2015, 02:31:04 PM
Anyone work on their feet all day? I'm retired but I took a job in a huge library. They are having trouble with the homeless and a large group of heroin addicts that like to hang out in the library. Can you believe in a library there was a bloody assault in one of the bathrooms?  I'm beginning to regret my decision to take the job. The other guards seem straight out of the hood and completely unprofessional. 

My foot was slightly swollen from running after my weight workout a couple of days ago. Now after the first day on this job I can hardly walk on it. This job has me on my feet for 8 hours constantly making loops of the huge two story place with no opportunity to sit down. I know it doesn't sound taxing but I bet I walked over 10 miles.  My foot was so swollen when I came home I could hardly walk on it.

Maybe this isn't the job for you. Unfortunately, a lot of jobs in the service industry require much walking. If it makes you feel any better, I don't think I could handle all that walking either. The only thing I can think of to suggest is that you look into different shoes and don't wear the same shoes everyday.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 04, 2015, 12:57:46 AM
work at service desk 10 hours ,but i'm up and around shop/parts area,or outside saving some customer lol from there car god forbid dosen't have radio stations or phone paired into vehicle working..by my posting of workouts and having 3 children 9-2 yrs old you can tell i'm full of crazy and never low energy ever...i'm blessed so far at 46 to be same as i was in 20/30's...i know your older ritch a little and said just recently you feel it ,so i don't i could change at 50 ,i hope not...
Next May iīll be the big 50.. do i care ? not really. I think as long as you keep moving all your life youīll remain in shape. I canīt do much training at the moment but iīm going now swimming with the Family. Itīs 09.55 here and not too hot yet. See what i can do, even if i just swim on my back and do some lengths better that nothing :D ;)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 04, 2015, 07:29:09 AM
never too old to train... while i would never recommend holding a plate old school style behind your neck as in the video(made my neck hurt ;D).. he is keeping in shape.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 04, 2015, 11:18:18 AM
Next May iīll be the big 50.. do i care ? not really. I think as long as you keep moving all your life youīll remain in shape. I canīt do much training at the moment but iīm going now swimming with the Family. Itīs 09.55 here and not too hot yet. See what i can do, even if i just swim on my back and do some lengths better that nothing :D ;)

Usually swimming is a great exercise when other's aren't practical. Depending on the stroke, you may involve you neck. Seems like you should avoid those strokes. Freestyle uses the neck the most as you turn from side to side. In the breast stroke you bend your head back, while in the back stroke you bend it forward. Maybe the side stroke is a good choice, plus it is a relaxing position to swim in.

What is going on with all this heat? I don't usually jump on the global warming bandwagon, but here in Oregon we've broken any record for an extended heat wave. According to the news, even the ocean is down. Detroit lake is 60 feet down. No water is spilling over the dam which means that those fish headed out to the ocean, can't get there. This will certainly mess with the salmon runs next year.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 04, 2015, 11:24:22 AM
never too old to train... while i would never recommend holding a plate old school style behind your neck as in the video(made my neck hurt ;D).. he is keeping in shape.


I've used a 25 lb. plate behind my head when doing back raises with no difficulty. Not sure I would do this the way the fellow in the video is. When doing sit-ups, whether hanging or using the normal position of being on your back one's neck is already compromised. For weighted sit-ups or crunches, I'll stick to using the Nautilus ab machine.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 04, 2015, 01:16:37 PM
I've used a 25 lb. plate behind my head when doing back raises with no difficulty. Not sure I would do this the way the fellow in the video is. When doing sit-ups, whether hanging or using the normal position of being on your back one's neck is already compromised. For weighted sit-ups or crunches, I'll stick to using the Nautilus ab machine.
I am a bit sensitive now i suppose to neck injuries. Do a crunch thinking an apple is under your chin..  best advice from jay..machine crunch.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 04, 2015, 02:20:52 PM
Watching that guy punch on the youtube.  The film is definitely sped up.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 05, 2015, 06:34:16 AM
Dragged out my old style chest expanders ;D and pulled on them and did some light Incline flys.. still very weak in my right arm. I think tomorrow i will do a full body workout with bands,expanders and Dumbbells see how it goes. Man i am frying in this heat...mmm i will get an Ice Lolly out the Fridge... ;)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 05, 2015, 06:37:47 AM
Watching that guy punch on the youtube.  The film is definitely sped up.
no doubt still fit for his age.. watched another of his videos, was into Martial arts so been active for his whole life.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 05, 2015, 02:07:40 PM
Trained back and chest. Just winged it. No warm ups listed.

Pull ups 3 x max
Low cable rows 3 x 12
Single dumbbell row off bench 2 x 10
Hammer strength pull down machine 2 x 10

Dumbbell flat bench 2 x 8
Hammer strength incline 2 x 6
Flat dumbbell flies 2 x 10
Hammer strength bench 2 x 6

Dead lifts 2 x 4 then 1x1 (Using light weights because of my foot injury never went over 325lbs.
Weight back extensions  1 x 15 (the bench they have is just designed poorly. Going to use the one I own in my basement after going to the gym)

Ab coaster 2 x 20 using 20lbs (If you never see this machine look it up. It's one of the best ab workouts I have ever used. This gym has the commercial model)

As I'm walking out of the gym I grabbed a dipping belt and and ten pound plate and maxed out for one set of deep dips.

Floated in my pool when I got home. Swollen foot feels a little better with the anti inflammatory drugs I'm taking. A good side effect is that my shoulder feel much better too.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 06, 2015, 05:54:02 AM
HAD GREAT 4TH OF JULY AND WENT OVER TO WIFES FRIENDS HOUSE FOR BARBECUE YESTERDAY..POOL/SUN/GOOD FOOD ITALIAN/SPANISH HOMEADE..GIRLS GOT TIPSY...I THREW KIDS AROUND IN POOL..

LEG WORKOUT SATURDAY WAS BACK TO NORMAL AT GYM  :D

LEG PRESS...4/5/6/7/7/7 PLATES SETS
V SQUAT I FINALLY GOT AROUND TO DOING IT FACING IN LIKE A FRONT SQUAT,YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL GETTING FEET POSITIONED SO UR KNEES DON'T GET TWEAKED,1ST TIME I DID THEM STILL WORKED UP TO 3.5 PLATES A SIDE AND REPS 10
LUNGES WALKING KETTLEBELLS 45'S X2
EXTENSIONS 220/235/235

HAMS
SLDL 135/185/225/245
LYING LEG CURLS 140/150/155

CALVES SEATED CALF RAISES X5
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 06, 2015, 06:19:11 AM
Great workouts Dudes... :D I went for a run last Night in the woods.. as i was half way round my run it started raining hard with thunder and lightning... got piss wet through and was covered in mud and leaves when i got back home ;D I did enjoy it though was nice and cool. I will go again later Today about 5pm.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 06, 2015, 01:13:01 PM
Great workouts Dudes... :D I went for a run last Night in the woods.. as i was half way round my run it started raining hard with thunder and lightning... got piss wet through and was covered in mud and leaves when i got back home ;D I did enjoy it though was nice and cool. I will go again later Today about 5pm.

Send some of that rain my way. I tired of watering every other day.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 07, 2015, 01:12:24 AM
Send some of that rain my way. I tired of watering every other day.
itīs hot again today... still going to go running every evening. Been just doing leg curls/extensions on my Bench at home for legs. Donīt think iīll risk squats yet... Cycling is not good because of my head position when cycling as you tend to look forwards.. still at least i am doing a few exercises.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 07, 2015, 06:19:04 AM
good to hear Donny...

chest
inc press...135x15 warmup...165 x12...185/195/195-drop 165
fdb press 60/60/70 turned palm in facing each other at top ..this pumps nice ,,
decline flyes,,40/40/45  been sticking on these since Donny posted them month or 2 ago..
cable crossovers x3..personal fav of mine love theses
hammer lying press x3 plate and 25,2 plates x2

tris
tricep pushdowns x4
tricep extension seated machine x4
reverse pushdowns x3
db extensions across to side head x2

abs
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 07, 2015, 08:30:02 AM
Trained legs. Working out at a new commercial gym.

Squats 2 x 8 then 1 x 1 (Couldn't really sink them today. I will work on that.)
leg press 2 x10 (Felt so different from the one I own. I went deep on these)
leg extension 3 x 12 (this machine blows mine away. Felt so perfect)
Lying leg curl 3 x 10 ( I don't own a lying leg curl only seated. This machine too felt perfect.
Inner and outer thigh machine 2 sets of each. ( yes I used the lady machines)

Donkey calf machine 2 x 15 ( felt pretty good. Not perfect. Rare machine)
Seated hammer strength calf 3 x 15 (50lbs felt like a lot to me going full range)

Ab coaster 2 x 20 with 20lbs resistance.

Tried two different ab crunch machines. Both felt like garbage. Maybe I just don't have them adjusted properly.

Noticed the personal trainers are like vultures. The electronic system lets them know you're in the gym and they run to their computers to look up the pictures of the members to identify them. I haven't been approached yet but it's be coming.

Saw a real hot milf that was doing some strange bouncing on the inner thigh machine like she was violently riding a guy in the cow girl position. Still don't know what she was doing.  Second time I saw her eyeing me like I was a T bone steak.

Saw two guys about 55 just chatting away for 15 minutes as one of them sat in the leg extension machine. Just no work ethic.

Saw 45 year old steroid guy. 6'4" and built walking around like he's the gym celebrity. Talks to anyone and everyone giving advice.

When I had my back turned a 30 year old girl took my plates off the seated calf.  When she realized what she done she apologized and put her hand on my shoulder. She wants me. (It's my fantasy perception. Let me have it.)

This gym was under another name when my wife worked out there. It was mandatory that everyone had a towel. They don't enforce it in this gym. This gym very few have towels. I one of  the few that puts a towel down on a bench or machine prior to use.

Heading to the foot doctor after work. Maybe he can do something for the swelling of my foot. Just frustrated with injuries that come and go.

Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 07, 2015, 09:42:09 AM
itīs hot again today... still going to go running every evening. Been just doing leg curls/extensions on my Bench at home for legs. Donīt think iīll risk squats yet... Cycling is not good because of my head position when cycling as you tend to look forwards.. still at least i am doing a few exercises.

Have you considered upright handlebars for your bicycle? It allows you to have a much better position while riding. Machine squats might work.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 07, 2015, 10:04:15 AM
Still doing cardio mainly. This week I hope to make it three days instead of two, like I did last week. I did a little more than 20 minutes split between the stationary bike and the treadmill. I added light resistance leg presses and leg curls in addition to the leg extensions I did last week. This routine has improved the neuropathy and knee pain in the right leg. Walking is much better for me.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 07, 2015, 05:46:30 PM
Have you considered upright handlebars for your bicycle? It allows you to have a much better position while riding. Machine squats might work.

 I use to ride racing bikes in that uncomfortable bent over riding position. Now I ride an upright hybrid. I could never keep up with a skinny high pressure tired racing bike but I'm really getting the same relative workout in terms of effort. If you ride by yourself why use a racing type bike unless that's your passion?
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 08, 2015, 01:08:07 AM
I use to ride racing bikes in that uncomfortable bent over riding position. Now I ride an upright hybrid. I could never keep up with a skinny high pressure tired racing bike but I'm really getting the same relative workout in terms of effort. If you ride by yourself why use a racing type bike unless that's your passion?

Ha ..yes   the "Chopper" was in when i was a Kid... donīt think itīll look good now at 49 :-\
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 08, 2015, 05:50:49 AM
well highlight of the Day... my third Injection later today.... ;D I like to feel that needle go in my neck :-X
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 08, 2015, 08:43:49 AM
well highlight of the Day... my third Injection later today.... ;D I like to feel that needle go in my neck :-X

Just got one through the top of my foot.

In the gym today a group of teenagers grabbed about 5 pair of dumbbells for their circuit. Just pissed me off. Used dumbbells that were too heavy for me for lower reps. I guess not a bad thing.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 09, 2015, 05:10:48 AM
Just got one through the top of my foot.

In the gym today a group of teenagers grabbed about 5 pair of dumbbells for their circuit. Just pissed me off. Used dumbbells that were too heavy for me for lower reps. I guess not a bad thing.
I would just do a cable or machine exercises. i think once iīm a bit better i will be benching first of all with machines. Then i will Bench with Dumbbells to work on my weak arm. the machine Bench press can allow me to push with what i can with my right arm also allowing my left arm to slightly aid me more than normal. one arm standing chest press with cables too(doing these with resistance bands at the moment). Was out running this morning and i really felt good. Was really Deep breathing getting lots of O2 in my Body.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 09, 2015, 06:27:21 AM
back..lot of work/pushed some weight

chins wide x2 and middle x2
t bar rows front loaded stand up version,2 plates,2.5,3,3.5
cable low rows x3 180/195/195
lat pulldowns behind head old school x3
hammer front pulldowns I used the side grips instead underhand grip x3 worked up to 2 plates side..

weighted hypers x3x15 45 lb plate

traps
shrugs ..185,225,275,275 gassed on these
reverse shrug x2 chest machine 3 plates x2 x15 squeezed these..

abs
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 09, 2015, 06:52:37 AM
back..lot of work/pushed some weight

chins wide x2 and middle x2
t bar rows front loaded stand up version,2 plates,2.5,3,3.5
cable low rows x3 180/195/195
lat pulldowns behind head old school x3
hammer front pulldowns I used the side grips instead underhand grip x3 worked up to 2 plates side..

weighted hypers x3x15 45 lb plate

traps
shrugs ..185,225,275,275 gassed on these
reverse shrug x2 chest machine 3 plates x2 x15 squeezed these..

abs
nice Trap work. I like Dumbbells but reverse shrug with Barbell, although Lee Haney used Bells for these too.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 09, 2015, 08:53:14 AM
I would just do a cable or machine exercises. i think once iīm a bit better i will be benching first of all with machines. Then i will Bench with Dumbbells to work on my weak arm. the machine Bench press can allow me to push with what i can with my right arm also allowing my left arm to slightly aid me more than normal. one arm standing chest press with cables too(doing these with resistance bands at the moment). Was out running this morning and i really felt good. Was really Deep breathing getting lots of O2 in my Body.

Nothing feels better for the mind than cardio. After cardio I feel relaxed and in a good mood. After lifting I just feel tired.

Trained back and chest today.  Thinking about next time starting with chest. I feel my pressing goes down hill after training back.

Pull ups 3 x max ( really weak on these. I do try to do them strictly)
Low cable row with a V grip handle 2 x 12
Single dumbbell row off a bench 2 x 10
Hammer strength pull downs 3 x 10

Dumbbell flat bench 2 x 6
Hammer strength incline press 2 x 6
Hammer strength bench 2 x 6
Dumbbell flies 2 x 10

Dead lift 2 x 4 then 1x1 ( With my bad foot I never went over 340lbs)

Ab coaster 2 x 21 with 20lbs.
Push ups 1 x max

I went home and did weighted back extensions. The machine they have is a horrible 45 degree one that push on my balls making me see stars.

Today's gym observations: Girl just because I ask how many sets you have left doesn't mean I'm trying to pick you up.  I just want to use the equipment. You're not in my league anyway.

Second observation: The usual delusional lifters. 17 year old kid using 12 45lbs plates on the leg press machine barely bending his legs. Just delusional. Put 6 plates on it and bend your fuckin legs. Guy using massive dumbbells in pressing going half way down. No one is impressed with you throwing your water bottle down between sets like you're about to deadlift 1000 pounds when you're half repping a press.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 09, 2015, 09:14:23 AM
Nothing feels better for the mind than cardio. After cardio I feel relaxed and in a good mood. After lifting I just feel tired.

Trained back and chest today.  Thinking about next time starting with chest. I feel my pressing goes down hill after training back.

Pull ups 3 x max ( really weak on these. I do try to do them strictly)
Low cable row with a V grip handle 2 x 12
Single dumbbell row off a bench 2 x 10
Hammer strength pull downs 3 x 10

Dumbbell flat bench 2 x 6
Hammer strength incline press 2 x 6
Hammer strength bench 2 x 6
Dumbbell flies 2 x 10

Dead lift 2 x 4 then 1x1 ( With my bad foot I never went over 340lbs)

Ab coaster 2 x 21 with 20lbs.
Push ups 1 x max

I went home and did weighted back extensions. The machine they have is a horrible 45 degree one that push on my balls making me see stars.

Today's gym observations: Girl just because I ask how many sets you have left doesn't mean I'm trying to pick you up.  I just want to use the equipment. You're not in my league anyway.

Second observation: The usual delusional lifters. 17 year old kid using 12 45lbs plates on the leg press machine barely bending his legs. Just delusional. Put 6 plates on it and bend your fuckin legs. Guy using massive dumbbells in pressing going half way down. No one is impressed with you throwing your water bottle down between sets like you're about to deadlift 1000 pounds when you're half repping a press.
Man..i wish i could come with you training  ;D
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 09, 2015, 07:13:39 PM
delts/bi's home

superset db press with side laterals,,45's and 15's x2'50 and 20's x2..good burn
did a slight variation fr/rear raise bend over db's start db together than do a 'v'outwards x3 15/20/20 db these are good
upright cable rows x3
bench on mid angle lie chest down do rear lateral raises x4 20/20/30/30 db's
finished 2 sets hammer grip db front raise with 30's

bi's
curl bar curls x3 mix up reps bottom to mis x6 then full reps to failure
db scott curl 20/30/30 db's reps 10-12
hammers across body 45/50's
cable curls inner close grip x2

i will be 47 on mon 7-13 wish me happy bday then tho...

took these pics 2 nite
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 09, 2015, 08:57:26 PM
Hit the gym yesterday. Besides doing the cardio routine, I worked chest and delts. Nothing special - 3 sets of 10 on each. Just a touch sore today.... perfect.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 10, 2015, 04:34:46 AM
Hit the gym yesterday. Besides doing the cardio routine, I worked chest and delts. Nothing special - 3 sets of 10 on each. Just a touch sore today.... perfect.
every little thing helps... I am still just using these Thera-Bands to work my tricep. All i can do on my right arm. really hitting cardio though.. tomorrow is supposed to be warm here so i will hit the pool..
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 10, 2015, 06:12:18 PM
Donny when I had my arm injury and operation I didn't lift for  about 5 months.  All I did was cardio. Let me tell you it wasn't such a bad thing. I got into incredible condition. My body fat was just about nothing. When I was able to lift I started from an incredibly lean position which is so much better than being a perma bulker.

Do a ton of cardio. When you get better you will see it was a blessing and not a curse.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 11, 2015, 01:15:24 AM
Donny when I had my arm injury and operation I didn't lift for  about 5 months.  All I did was cardio. Let me tell you it wasn't such a bad thing. I got into incredible condition. My body fat was just about nothing. When I was able to lift I started from an incredibly lean position which is so much better than being a perma bulker.

Do a ton of cardio. When you get better you will see it was a blessing and not a curse.
Cheers....i feel better now... :) Only thing which pisses me off is my Health Insurance will not pay for the Injections. I went to a clinic here where they treat patients for pain, Schmerz-und PalliativZentrum. doctor examined me and wrote a report to say i should get the costs paid for. faxed it Via Lawyer to my Insurance...next step is Court. they would rather pay for a very expensive operation rather than Injections trying to avoid surgery with Physio. If they still say no i will take them to Court.. ;)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 11, 2015, 07:21:22 AM
Cheers....i feel better now... :) Only thing which pisses me off is my Health Insurance will not pay for the Injections. I went to a clinic here where they treat patients for pain, Schmerz-und PalliativZentrum. doctor examined me and wrote a report to say i should get the costs paid for. faxed it Via Lawyer to my Insurance...next step is Court. they would rather pay for a very expensive operation rather than Injections trying to avoid surgery with Physio. If they still say no i will take them to Court.. ;)
good to hear,,,health care system in America fugggetabouittt....
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 11, 2015, 07:52:22 AM
good to hear,,,health care system in America fugggetabouittt....
I know.. itīs slowly getting worse here. still canīt complain i had an appointment quickly with a Professor. you know i do not understand their mentality in my Krankenkasse .. they will pay for an expensive OP and later Reha.. but i am trying to avoid an op. The Injection therapy they used to pay for up until 2 years ago. I will take it further and go to court. Maybe i wonīt win but i will try.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 11, 2015, 10:19:20 AM
just ate some good grilled Food.. i am stuffed. My Sons Friend was here, feel sorry for him because his Family threw him out. his mother apparently wanted to kill him... We try to help him as much as we can. he comes to us and at least is fed well...the Social System has failed this young man. he has an apartment but canīt afford enough to eat. Jobs are rare now here and so a lot of young people with problems struggle.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 11, 2015, 12:30:45 PM
just ate some good grilled Food.. i am stuffed. My Sons Friend was here, feel sorry for him because his Family threw him out. his mother apparently wanted to kill him... We try to help him as much as we can. he comes to us and at least is fed well...the Social System has failed this young man. he has an apartment but canīt afford enough to eat. Jobs are rare now here and so a lot of young people with problems struggle.

My almost 20 year old grandson who lives in Germany could not survive if he didn't still live at home. He's a musician who plays in a group. They get gigs but they are not paid big money and the gigs are not steady. He also works for a pizza place. As an aunt once said, "everyone blooms in their own time." Hope he's not a century plant.  ;)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 11, 2015, 06:06:16 PM
Made it to the gym today....didn't feel like going. -Cardio plus back and arms. Same routine 3X10. By the time I was done, I felt so much better that I speed tanned. This old codger isn't done yet.

Cooking hickory smoked pork loin riblets right now. I will serve them with oven fried potatoes and salad wedges with blue cheese. Tomorrow is nothing but liquids and prep.

Monday is colonoscopy day. Oh joy! By the time I need to do this again (every 5 years), they better come up with some other method or I'm out.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 12, 2015, 12:09:42 PM
Frying the delts

10 giant sets of seated DB presses with globe grips (https://www.google.com/search?q="globe+grips"&safe=off&client=ubuntu&hs=MFj&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=DLqiVa7UMMSqywPenqyoCw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ#safe=off&channel=fs&tbm=isch&q="globe+gripz"), seated DB side raises (face against a high incline seat) & bent over barbell rows to the face
1 triple drop down set of machine presses with 30 sec weighted stretches between & after
Some light stretch & stability work for the delts
1 set of hyper extentions (to ease my stiff lower back)
2 sets of Bosu ball crunches
Some stretches for my lower back
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 12, 2015, 03:27:19 PM
Prime I hate the stuff you have to drink prior to a scope. It really tastes like something dangerous to consume. My whole body screams don't drink it. I actually feel a little nauseous drinking it.

Took three days off. I was planning 2 but a 4 hour kayak trip in the sun exhausted me. A lot of fun. We went through a Pine barren river in New Jersey. Never saw a house in 4 hours. Occasionally going around a bend we saw pick up trucks in the woods and biker types drinking beer enjoying the water. It did make me feel a little vulnerable being in a kayak passing drunken biker types but most waved. Only one clearly mean mugged me going by.  The banjos of Deliverance kept going through my mind as I would pass them.  For the most part it was solitude in nature. Just quiet. Couldn't hear cars and only the voices of the people in our 8 person group.  Found a lot of wild blue berries that I ate. One guy wouldn't eat them saying I don't eat stuff in the woods. I thought, you trust berries in the supermarket but blue berries in the woods that have been there for centuries you're scared of.

Tomorrow is legs. I will see how much I can do on my sore foot. Love many of the machines in the commercial gym I'm working out in. The leg extension and leg curl are amazing. Can't wait.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: The Scott on July 12, 2015, 03:57:12 PM
Made it to the gym today....didn't feel like going. -Cardio plus back and arms. Same routine 3X10. By the time I was done, I felt so much better that I speed tanned. This old codger isn't done yet.

Cooking hickory smoked pork loin riblets right now. I will serve them with oven fried potatoes and salad wedges with blue cheese. Tomorrow is nothing but liquids and prep.

Monday is colonoscopy day. Oh joy! By the time I need to do this again (every 5 years), they better come up with some other method or I'm out.

Ouch!  I feel for you, brother.   I've been through 'em several times. Upper and lower GI stuff.  Yuck.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2015, 04:40:39 PM
I have been doing the liquid diet all day today. The prep has changed since the last time I did this. I drink 16 oz of crap that makes you crap followed by 32 oz of water, one tonight at 6:00 pm and do this again tomorrow morning. The toilet and I will get to know each other very well. Last thing to is the fleets enema. I should be clean as a whistle.  :
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 12, 2015, 07:02:42 PM
Leg day

Leg press 4/6/7/7 plates
Vsquat machine faced, in like a front squat 2/3/3.5 plates
Lunges up steps sets 4 45 lb kettle bells x2
extensions 205/220/235/250

Hams
Sldl dbs 65/75/85/95
Seated leg curls 180/195/210/210

Calves seated calf raise x5
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 13, 2015, 01:35:42 AM
Hope it all goes well today Jay... will go running later and some intensive ab work.
Leg day

Leg press 4/6/7/7 plates
Vsquat machine faced, in like a front squat 2/3/3.5 plates
Lunges up steps sets 4 45 lb kettle bells x2
extensions 205/220/235/250

Hams
Sldl dbs 65/75/85/95
Seated leg curls 180/195/210/210

Calves seated calf raise x5

those V-squats sound intresting.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 13, 2015, 05:44:40 AM
Hope it all goes well today Jay... will go running later and some intensive ab work. those V-squats sound intresting.
its a hammer machine I believe large padding on shoulders plates are loaded each side and are low on machine,has a large platform so you can low/high'hamstrings'and close or wide stance.you usually face out ,so facinf in works you just have to get your body alighned and it works great,hams/front to top quads get hit nice ....its fun to use a machine opposite of what it was intended for,same with the lying chest press to shrug...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 13, 2015, 05:46:25 AM
Frying the delts

10 giant sets of seated DB presses with globe grips (https://www.google.com/search?q="globe+grips"&safe=off&client=ubuntu&hs=MFj&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=DLqiVa7UMMSqywPenqyoCw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ#safe=off&channel=fs&tbm=isch&q="globe+gripz"), seated DB side raises (face against a high incline seat) & bent over barbell rows to the face
1 triple drop down set of machine presses with 30 sec weighted stretches between & after
Some light stretch & stability work for the delts
1 set of hyper extentions (to ease my stiff lower back)
2 sets of Bosu ball crunches
Some stretches for my lower back
nice...great pump...turned 47 today bro...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 13, 2015, 06:07:30 AM
nice...great pump...turned 47 today bro...

Congratulations Steve, hope you have a nice day with your family!
For how long are you lifting?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 13, 2015, 06:16:07 AM
Congratulations Steve, hope you have a nice day with your family!
For how long are you lifting?
27 YRS  :o.. :P.. :)..THANKS MAN...MONSTER LEG WORKOUT YESTERDAY...

TOOK THIS PIC OTHER NIGHT,,
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 13, 2015, 10:09:24 AM
They look interesting. Kind of like a machine hack squat.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 13, 2015, 12:04:20 PM
27 YRS  :o.. :P.. :)..THANKS MAN...MONSTER LEG WORKOUT YESTERDAY...

TOOK THIS PIC OTHER NIGHT,,


Damn, that's a long ride so far. You have a good skin, must be Italian genetics.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 13, 2015, 05:14:58 PM
Trained legs today.

squats 2 x 9 then 3 x 1 (my squats are weak from running distance for months. I thought I was warmed up but when I got to 265lbs and I really sank it something went wrong. Of course I hurt my butt muscle. LOL. I guess barbell squats are out for awhile.
leg press 2 x 12 ( kept it light but really made sure to bend my legs. Just used about 400lbs)
leg extension 3 x 12
lying leg curl 3 x 12-8
inner and outer leg machine ( you know the lady leg machine)

Donkey calf machine 2 x 15 (Hurt my bad foot like hell but I have to train calves)
Seated Hammer strength calf 2 x 15 ( Did these slow and full range.

Ab coaster 2 x 22 with 20lbs resistance.

Gym observations.
1.A gorilla guy next to me when I was using the leg extension was on a bicep curl machine. I use half the rack on that bicep curl machine. This guy did about 5 sets with the entire rack. Just amazing or he was yanking back with his entire body.

2. Two different girls were doing squats. Back squats and front squats. I was impressed with their dedication.

3. The place was a wreck today. I always train in the morning but today I trained in the afternoon. I guess it's straightened out for the morning then it deteriorates. This afternoon plates were everywhere. What a mess.

4. The women in the morning are way hotter than the women in the afternoon.

5. If you're wearing ear buds please realize I can't hear the song when you're singing. Some of these guys sound like a cat kicked in the balls.

6. It was 88F and sunny today. Why are guys training with a hoodie?  

7. Maybe I mentioned this before but is this the new thing? Why are guys slamming down their water bottles prior to a set?  Why the drama?  Next time I go, between every set I'm going to growl and not only slam my water bottle on the ground, I will throw it across the gym.  Maybe I can set a new trend.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 13, 2015, 05:34:03 PM
Trained legs today.

squats 2 x 9 then 3 x 1 (my squats are weak from running distance for months. I thought I was warmed up but when I got to 265lbs and I really sank it something went wrong. Of course I hurt my butt muscle. LOL. I guess barbell squats are out for awhile.
leg press 2 x 12 ( kept it light but really made sure to bend my legs. Just used about 400lbs)
leg extension 3 x 12
lying leg curl 3 x 12-8
inner and outer leg machine ( you know the lady leg machine)

Donkey calf machine 2 x 15 (Hurt my bad foot like hell but I have to train calves)
Seated Hammer strength calf 2 x 15 ( Did these slow and full range.

Ab coaster 2 x 22 with 20lbs resistance.

Gym observations.
1.A gorilla guy next to me when I was using the leg extension was on a bicep curl machine. I use half the rack on that bicep curl machine. This guy did about 5 sets with the entire rack. Just amazing or he was yanking back with his entire body.

2. Two different girls were doing squats. Back squats and front squats. I was impressed with their dedication.

3. The place was a wreck today. I always train in the morning but today I trained in the afternoon. I guess it's straightened out for the morning then it deteriorates. This afternoon plates were everywhere. What a mess.

4. The women in the morning are way hotter than the women in the afternoon.

5. If you're wearing ear buds please realize I can't hear the song when you're singing. Some of these guys sound like a cat kicked in the balls.

6. It was 88F and sunny today. Why are guys training with a hoodie?  

7. Maybe I mentioned this before but is this the new thing? Why are guys slamming down their water bottles prior to a set?  Why the drama?  Next time I go, between every set I'm going to growl and not only slam my water bottle on the ground, I will throw it across the gym.  Maybe I can set a new trend.

Careful, much of this behavior would get a person kicked out of the gym I go to. There's a power lifting room where growling and slamming water bottles is acceptable. Nowhere in the gym is it acceptable to not restack your weights when you're done with them. Nowhere in the gym can you throw a water bottle and expect other's will let it go.

The guys in hoodies may be cold blooded. If you're still working out at the gym where your wife gave you a membership, it should be air-conditioned.
Title: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 13, 2015, 05:36:42 PM
nice...great pump...turned 47 today bro...

Careful, you're catching up to me. Happy Birthday Steve.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 13, 2015, 06:16:35 PM
Prime you're killing me.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 13, 2015, 07:04:44 PM
Careful, you're catching up to me. Happy Birthday Steve.
thanks jay.....
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 13, 2015, 07:19:07 PM
jay already wished me well.birthday today 4 7  :o,, 8)
did chest/tri/abs at home so i could have cupcakes/dinner with wife /kids

good workout tho,,,

inc db press super set with inc flye x3
seated chest press alone x3
dec db flyes x3
seated chest press side long grip superset with pushups x3

tris
skull crushers x3,,did 3 reps skulls then 3 mini presses repeat,repeat ,9reps ea per set..
tricep pushdowns x4
kick backs x3 with bench dips x2'bodyweight'
reverse grip pushdowns x3

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 13, 2015, 07:26:49 PM
Damn, that's a long ride so far. You have a good skin, must be Italian genetics.
8),,tan well in summer,get brown in a few days out in sun,i do lawn shirtless :P..sit out when get a chance,i use a lot of moisturizers after shaving down :-*,,,always shave/looks good when lean..no acne had it as kid but now nothing..train and take care of everything around it..i have a cabinet like a women,colognes/scrubs,ect,,
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 14, 2015, 12:33:53 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 14, 2015, 12:42:42 AM
Trained legs today.

squats 2 x 9 then 3 x 1 (my squats are weak from running distance for months. I thought I was warmed up but when I got to 265lbs and I really sank it something went wrong. Of course I hurt my butt muscle. LOL. I guess barbell squats are out for awhile.
leg press 2 x 12 ( kept it light but really made sure to bend my legs. Just used about 400lbs)
leg extension 3 x 12
lying leg curl 3 x 12-8
inner and outer leg machine ( you know the lady leg machine)

Donkey calf machine 2 x 15 (Hurt my bad foot like hell but I have to train calves)
Seated Hammer strength calf 2 x 15 ( Did these slow and full range.

Ab coaster 2 x 22 with 20lbs resistance.

Gym observations.
1.A gorilla guy next to me when I was using the leg extension was on a bicep curl machine. I use half the rack on that bicep curl machine. This guy did about 5 sets with the entire rack. Just amazing or he was yanking back with his entire body.

2. Two different girls were doing squats. Back squats and front squats. I was impressed with their dedication.

3. The place was a wreck today. I always train in the morning but today I trained in the afternoon. I guess it's straightened out for the morning then it deteriorates. This afternoon plates were everywhere. What a mess.

4. The women in the morning are way hotter than the women in the afternoon.

5. If you're wearing ear buds please realize I can't hear the song when you're singing. Some of these guys sound like a cat kicked in the balls.

6. It was 88F and sunny today. Why are guys training with a hoodie?  

7. Maybe I mentioned this before but is this the new thing? Why are guys slamming down their water bottles prior to a set?  Why the drama?  Next time I go, between every set I'm going to growl and not only slam my water bottle on the ground, I will throw it across the gym.  Maybe I can set a new trend.
if people want to act like that then i am sure there are enough "Hardcore Gyms" for them out there. I only know one Gym here who allows this sort of thing, all the others kick them out or donīt allow them a contract. where i am one trainer was sacked because he was Ronny Coleman loud when training. i liked the Guy but made a fool of himself with his weird screaming and grunting. He was spoken to about it on a few occasions but never listened.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 14, 2015, 03:52:42 AM
8),,tan well in summer,get brown in a few days out in sun,i do lawn shirtless :P..sit out when get a chance,i use a lot of moisturizers after shaving down :-*,,,always shave/looks good when lean..no acne had it as kid but now nothing..train and take care of everything around it..i have a cabinet like a women,colognes/scrubs,ect,,

That's a lot to keep your wife happy ;) 
Every now and then I scrub my face and apply an egg white mask. Works pretty well, since it results in a silk-like skin for days.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 14, 2015, 04:49:44 AM
As Donny is getting older (but less 'mature'), he sometimes makes the mistake to reply via another thread, so I thought why not help this geriatric stalker good man :)

about as original as your egg white mask you wrote about today...tell the truth you are the Gym Bitch..itīs  Jizz  :D  so it keeps your skin silky does it SpunkPlates? Oh Man... ???
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 14, 2015, 06:14:36 AM
;D

what a cake  8).....thanks...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 14, 2015, 08:07:08 AM
Happy birthday njflex!

Today's gym observations. Trained delt and arms. My delts were incredibly weak pressing today then it hit me. It was the 4 hour kayak trip I took on Saturday. It just weakened my pressing. I'm sure I will be back better than before next delt day.

Observations: Incredible blonde training with tight leggings and and a belly shirt. Just stunning and ripped. She could easily be a top level fitness model. Just enough muscle to still be feminine.  She was thin and muscular. She really knew training. She even did front squats using straps to hold to get her elbow up. That is an advanced trick of training. I do notice she has trouble training because guys are constantly trying to engage her in conversation between set and she is friendly.

Some guys there look in just incredible shape. Not the drug bloated muscle of a bodybuilder but top conditioned athletes. Wish I was in my 20's again.  I'm still in good shape but there is only so much one can do in their later 50's without drugs.

It's not my imagination but the gym goes to hell as the day goes on. Early morning it's all in place. By afternoon the place is turning into a wreck. I wonder how it is at night?  I guess the workers clean up the place first thing in the morning. By afternoon plates are completely messed up on the storage pegs. Also does anyone have a job? The place is packed in the morning around 9AM.

I never give out training advice but some of the people new to training really could use some advices as Arnold would say it. One 20 something girl was using the seated dip machine with her arms locked straight using her body weight to push the handles down. I wonder what she thinks she is working? Maybe legs?





Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 14, 2015, 08:09:06 AM
Happy birthday njflex!

Today's gym observations. Trained delt and arms. My delts were incredibly weak pressing today then it hit me. It was the 4 hour kayak trip I took on Saturday. It just weakened my pressing. I'm sure I will be back better than before next delt day.

Observations: Incredible blonde training with tight leggings and and a belly shirt. Just stunning and ripped. She could easily be a top level fitness model. Just enough muscle to still be feminine.  She was thin and muscular. She really knew training. She even did front squats using straps to hold to get her elbow up. That is an advanced trick of training. I do notice she has trouble training because guys are constantly trying to engage her in conversation between set and she is friendly.

Some guys there look in just incredible shape. Not the drug bloated muscle of a bodybuilder but top conditioned athletes. Wish I was in my 20's again.  I'm still in good shape but there is only so much one can do in their later 50's without drugs.

It's not my imagination but the gym goes to hell as the day goes on. Early morning it's all in place. By afternoon the place is turning into a wreck. I wonder how it is at night?  I guess the workers clean up the place first thing in the morning. By afternoon plates are completely messed up on the storage pegs. Also does anyone have a job? The place is packed in the morning around 9AM.

I never give out training advice but some of the people new to training really could use some advices as Arnold would say it. One 20 something girl was using the seated dip machine with her arms locked straight using her body weight to push the handles down. I wonder what she thinks she is working? Maybe legs?






THANKS RICH....GLAD YOUR ENJOYING THE DIFFERENT TRAINING ENVIROMENT...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 14, 2015, 09:47:26 AM
Just been for a run was hard today was feeling tired.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 14, 2015, 09:50:56 AM
Happy birthday njflex!

Today's gym observations. Trained delt and arms. My delts were incredibly weak pressing today then it hit me. It was the 4 hour kayak trip I took on Saturday. It just weakened my pressing. I'm sure I will be back better than before next delt day.

Observations: Incredible blonde training with tight leggings and and a belly shirt. Just stunning and ripped. She could easily be a top level fitness model. Just enough muscle to still be feminine.  She was thin and muscular. She really knew training. She even did front squats using straps to hold to get her elbow up. That is an advanced trick of training. I do notice she has trouble training because guys are constantly trying to engage her in conversation between set and she is friendly.

Some guys there look in just incredible shape. Not the drug bloated muscle of a bodybuilder but top conditioned athletes. Wish I was in my 20's again.  I'm still in good shape but there is only so much one can do in their later 50's without drugs.

It's not my imagination but the gym goes to hell as the day goes on. Early morning it's all in place. By afternoon the place is turning into a wreck. I wonder how it is at night?  I guess the workers clean up the place first thing in the morning. By afternoon plates are completely messed up on the storage pegs. Also does anyone have a job? The place is packed in the morning around 9AM.

I never give out training advice but some of the people new to training really could use some advices as Arnold would say it. One 20 something girl was using the seated dip machine with her arms locked straight using her body weight to push the handles down. I wonder what she thinks she is working? Maybe legs?






rich I like reading about your exploits in the gym...makes me laugh
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 14, 2015, 10:34:14 AM
No gym yesterday per doctor's orders, colonoscopy instead. I would have rather gone to the gym, for sure. All's good though and now that's done with for the next three years.

Car's in the shop today with a laundry list of repairs, pretty much all maintenance stuff. The bill is likely to be a few thousand dollars. It's a lot, but not as much as a new car. I may not get it back until tomorrow. Guess I will do yard work for exercise and catch up on the gym when I have wheels again.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: funk51 on July 14, 2015, 10:52:10 AM
No gym yesterday per doctor's orders, colonoscopy instead. I would have rather gone to the gym, for sure. All's good though and now that's done with for the next three years.

Car's in the shop today with a laundry list of repairs, pretty much all maintenance stuff. The bill is likely to be a few thousand dollars. It's a lot, but not as much as a new car. I may not get it back until tomorrow. Guess I will do yard work for exercise and catch up on the gym when I have wheels again.
it sucks getting old, i had one of those rotor rooter jobs  too flaired up my hemmoroids, just had a prostate biopspy that sucked too...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 14, 2015, 11:10:01 AM
it sucks getting old, i had one of those rotor rooter jobs  too flaired up my hemmoroids, just had a prostate biopspy that sucked too...

Yeah it does. Anyone over 50 should get a colonoscopy. I believe most insurance covers the complete cost. Prostate biopsies are not fun at all. I'm glad I don't need them anymore.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 14, 2015, 01:27:57 PM
That's a lot to keep your wife happy ;) 
Every now and then I scrub my face and apply an egg white mask. Works pretty well, since it results in a silk-like skin for days.

You like Geer en Goor, too ?
En Ronnie Tober ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 14, 2015, 01:40:12 PM
You like Geer en Goor, too ?
En Ronnie Tober ?

Dude, it works and that's what matters. Give it a try.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 14, 2015, 06:24:57 PM
The first colonoscopy I had was about 25 years ago. The doctor gave me no sedative and did not put me under. Felt like I was going to pass out when I stood up after it was finished but I was completely awake for the procedure. Last year I was scoped up the rear and also had a scope down my mouth. This time with a different doctor they knocked my out for the procedure.  I really hate getting knocked out and being at the mercy of a doctor.  I heard one nurse say she heard a doctor talking nice to the patient while he was awake and when he was knocked out he had nothing but rotten things to say about the patient.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 15, 2015, 07:25:39 AM
Todays workout was Physio and then direct after i went swimming. No big deal but keeps me moving every Day, that along with running. Had a woman today, Blond think she owns the Physio place.. really helped the pain in my fingers by stretching my arm outwards and hand. Really felt the stretch. nice looking woman about 38 or so.. :)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: funk51 on July 15, 2015, 11:45:43 AM
Todays workout was Physio and then direct after i went swimming. No big deal but keeps me moving every Day, that along with running. Had a woman today, Blond think she owns the Physio place.. really helped the pain in my fingers by stretching my arm outwards and hand. Really felt the stretch. nice looking woman about 38 or so.. :)
i try to swim every day in the summer too, usually anywhere for one half to one mile, gotta keep the heart pumping...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 15, 2015, 12:42:39 PM
Todays workout was Physio and then direct after i went swimming. No big deal but keeps me moving every Day, that along with running. Had a woman today, Blond think she owns the Physio place.. really helped the pain in my fingers by stretching my arm outwards and hand. Really felt the stretch. nice looking woman about 38 or so.. :)

Either I missed the post or you haven't said, but are you still able to work or are you on sick leave?

It's always nice when the therapist is not only attractive but also does a great job. The therapist I had after the knee surgery, Lindsay, is quite nice looking, athletic and natural (no make-up). She lives with her longtime boyfriend. I can still fantasize though. She's just my type although she is way too young for me, probably only in her early to mid thirties.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 15, 2015, 12:57:34 PM
Either I missed the post or you haven't said, but are you still able to work or are you on sick leave?

It's always nice when the therapist is not only attractive but also does a great job. The therapist I had after the knee surgery, Lindsay, is quite nice looking, athletic and natural (no make-up). She lives with her longtime boyfriend. I can still fantasize though. She's just my type although she is way too young for me, probably only in her early to mid thirties.
at home at the moment so sick. Yes she really knows her job. Really just doing more cardiovascular training and a few exercises I know and was shown...hate writing on my phone 8)
Title: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 15, 2015, 01:00:56 PM
8),,tan well in summer,get brown in a few days out in sun,i do lawn shirtless :P..sit out when get a chance,i use a lot of moisturizers after shaving down :-*,,,always shave/looks good when lean..no acne had it as kid but now nothing..train and take care of everything around it..i have a cabinet like a women,colognes/scrubs,ect,,

My skin is olive toned and naturally oily. Tanning has never been a problem for me either, nor have wrinkles. My daughter is always giving me skin conditioners. Like you, I have a cabinet full of these products. I'm a hairy guy. Rather than shave though, I just buzz-cut everything, including my head. It's less work and there's no irritating stubble.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 15, 2015, 01:02:12 PM
i try to swim every day in the summer too, usually anywhere for one half to one mile, gotta keep the heart pumping...
yeah gotta work the pumper
Title: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 15, 2015, 01:08:13 PM
As Donny is getting older (but less 'mature'), he sometimes makes the mistake to reply via another thread, so I thought why not help this geriatric stalker good man :)


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Quote from: Donny on July 14, 2015, 03:01:37 AM

about as original as your egg white mask you wrote about today...tell the truth you are the Gym Bitch..itīs  Jizz  Cheesy  so it keeps your skin silky does it SpunkPlates? Oh Man... Huh

The two of you should take a good look at what you're posting about each other. It brings each of you down. You are both better and more mature than this. Find a truce, for goodness sakes.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 15, 2015, 01:10:24 PM
The two of you should take a good look at what you're posting about each other. It brings each of you down. You are both better and more mature than this. Find a truce, for goodness sakes.

MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 15, 2015, 01:15:16 PM
at home at the moment so sick. Yes she really knows her job. Really just doing more cardiovascular training and a few exercises I know and was shown...hate writing on my phone 8)

You are lucky to live in Germany were sick leave is the norm. In the U.S. you are at the mercy of your employer. Currently in most states, employers are not required to offer sick leave. When I worked, I'd earn one day a month. Fortunately, I rarely got sick. Overtime, I accumulated thousands of hours of sick leave which I ended up using for family medical leave to take care of my wife. Had I not had to use them, I could have added them to my final average salary and it would have increased my retirement amount.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 15, 2015, 01:19:52 PM
You are lucky to live in Germany were sick leave is the norm. In the U.S. you are at the mercy of your employer. Currently in most states, employers are not required to offer sick leave. When I worked, I'd earn one day a month. Fortunately, I rarely got sick. Overtime, I accumulated thousands of hours of sick leave which I ended up using for family medical leave to take care of my wife. Had I not had to use them, I could have added them to my final average salary and it would have increased my retirement amount.
here if you're sick for more than 6 weeks then the medical insurance pays most of your normal wage. Not all but I think 70%
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 15, 2015, 01:34:35 PM
The two of you should take a good look at what you're posting about each other. It brings each of you down. You are both better and more mature than this. Find a truce, for goodness sakes.


So exposing his childish behavior with a scent of sarcasm makes me less mature? Isn't it ironic that Donny has the intention to start a 'mature' thread?
Just two questions before you judge too soon...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 15, 2015, 01:36:02 PM
here if you're sick for more than 6 weeks then the medical insurance pays most of your normal wage. Not all but I think 70%

That's the way workers' comp is paid here. Do you have to pay taxes this money? One doesn't when they are on workers' comp in the U.S. Sick leave pay is taxed in the U.S. Since income taxes on average run about 30% the 70% tax free wage keeps one on a par.
Title: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 15, 2015, 01:53:39 PM
So exposing his childish behavior with a scent of sarcasm makes me less mature? Isn't it ironic that Donny has the intention to start a 'mature' thread?
Just two questions before you judge too soon...

I should have expressed my feelings about this feud via PMs, my apologies for making it public. Just for the record, I wasn't judging who was the least mature in this situation. Both of you are mature, intelligent adults who are acting immaturely. It doesn't become either of you in my humble opinion.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 15, 2015, 02:02:44 PM
I should have expressed my feelings about this feud via PM, my apologies for making it public. Just for the record, I wasn't judging who was the least mature in this situation.

No need to make apologies Jay, I believe in an open, fair and mature(!) discussion, one with solid arguments. This whole BS started after Donny had his doubts about my training log by PMing me that he had (yeah 'had') the ability to remove my posting.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 15, 2015, 02:15:18 PM
Prime wrote me a PM about this matter, and here's my reply (I believe in an open discussion regarding this moron, yes: I said MORON)

I've heard that 'let it go' advice many times before, so I get your point.
In this particular case I believe it's best to address this right away (the exposing part).
I was hoping that Donny was wise enough that his childish behavior is pretty foolish, but being a proud Scot, he seems to refuse that.
After this I opted for that 'let it go' route, but when Donny feels the need to stay childish by stalking me in threads that he normally NEVER visits (see his posting history), than I will pay him back, DP style  ;)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 15, 2015, 05:31:03 PM
Trained back and chest.

Pull ups 2 x max
Low row 3 x 12
Dumbbell row off bench 2 x 10
Hammer strength pulldowns 2 x 8 then I took some weight off and 1 x 10

Flat dumbbell bench 2 x 7-5
Hammer bench 2 x 8
Hammer strength inclines 2 x 8
Flat flies 2 x 10

deadlifts 2x4 then 1 x 1 Kept it light till my bad leg heals if it ever will. I used 340lbs for my single.

Ab coaster 2 x 23 with 20lbs.
Side twist machine 2 x 10 each side

Weighted back extensions 2 x 15 ( held a 25 pound plate behind my head)

Gym observations:

1. Saw a young teenager doing power squats with no safety rack or spotter using 290lbs. I had to tell him of the danger. I said, "What if you fail and no ones around?"  He said the only time he failed was when he was new to lifting and it was 240 lbs.  I know experienced Olympic lifters are very skilled at dumping the weight. I never was and I would be pinned if it wasn't for safety rack spotters.

2. Back in the day I was always use to huge bench pressers doing their thing. I haven't seen a big bench guy yet.

3. Saw a juicer doing partial deadlifts at pins set just above his knees. The weight was about 450lbs. Just wonder if he could deadlift it off the ground.

4. Saw a guy who looks like he juices doing the strangest thing and I can't figure it out. He was holding a short straight bar attached to a pulley that is about hip level. He would hold the bar and put a weight on the weight stack. Now he would do squats. If you can imagine this he isn't lifting the weight just moving it slightly because the weight has no bearing on his squats.

5. In the boxing room I saw a 50 something year old hit the bag with nothing but arm punches while standing static. I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he has physical issues and doing what he can. I just saw him and thought he would get killed if he ever tried to hit someone.

6. I saw a thick big chested 40 year old milf wearing those black panty hose legging and it curved right in to her big sexy ass.  ;)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 15, 2015, 07:50:00 PM
back

chins wide x2 inner x2
low pully cable rows 160/180/200
hammer pulldown machine usually underhanded die side grips x3 plate and 25, 2 sets 2 plates side
bent over rows 185/205/205
standing rope pulldowns/stretch  x2,,nice finish

weighted hypers x3 x15

traps
shrugs x4 185/225,275,275
reverse shrug 225/275

calf raises standing 140x25,180x15,200x15,220x12 ,220x8drops 180x8 140x8

abs
Title: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 16, 2015, 12:13:17 AM
Prime wrote me a PM about this matter, and here's my reply (I believe in an open discussion regarding this moron, yes: I said MORON)

I've heard that 'let it go' advice many times before, so I get your point.
In this particular case I believe it's best to address this right away (the exposing part).
I was hoping that Donny was wise enough that his childish behavior is pretty foolish, but being a proud Scot, he seems to refuse that.
After this I opted for that 'let it go' route, but when Donny feels the need to stay childish by stalking me in threads that he normally NEVER visits (see his posting history), than I will pay him back, DP style  ;)

Being the clueless person that I am, I had to look up DP style. All I could find was that it meant double penetration style and I doubt this applies here. Maybe you could clue me in.

I am disappointed that you decided not to keep your and my conversation to PMs. Your nemesis has done this with regards to this conversation, which says a lot in my book.  What are you really trying to prove here? Why did you take our PM public?

Both of you can try to justify your feelings by referencing history. Maybe it is time for you both to move forward and let history be put to rest.

I am not suggesting you all should become best friends.

What are you doing to resolve this issue? What do you want to see happen when all is said and done?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 16, 2015, 01:44:20 AM
Being the clueless person that I am, I had to look up DP style. All I could find was that it meant double penetration style and I doubt this applies here. Maybe you could clue me in.

I am disappointed that you decided not to keep your and my conversation to PMs. Your nemesis has done this with regards to this conversation, which says a lot in my book.  What are you really trying to prove here? Why did you take our PM public?

Both of you can try to justify your feelings by referencing history. Maybe it is time for you both to move forward and let history be put to rest.

I am not suggesting you all should become best friends.

What are you doing to resolve this issue? What do you want to see happen when all is said and done?

DP is simply my sceen name, but thanks for the LOL :D

You're disappointed? Well, I didn't published your PM. I'm actually a bit disappointed in you guys (you, Steve, oldschool lifter, etc) for being not critical at all about Donny's idiotic behavior (the "I can remove your post" & "just warning you" PM messages/treads, not listening at all when he got multiple warnings from mods and by stalking me in multiple threads he normally never visits). No, you guys keep saying that 'Donny is a good guy' and move to that other thread that doesn't even belong in that section (History - Stories - and Memories). All of this because he isn't the 'man' who can handle critical feedback from a mod.
I appreciate all of you, but this disappoints me! It's just a bit to easy to say "let go" right away.
No worries, I feel no need to continue with this, but I had to say this.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 16, 2015, 04:13:21 AM
Trained back and chest.

Pull ups 2 x max
Low row 3 x 12
Dumbbell row off bench 2 x 10
Hammer strength pulldowns 2 x 8 then I took some weight off and 1 x 10

Flat dumbbell bench 2 x 7-5
Hammer bench 2 x 8
Hammer strength 2 x 8
Flat flies 2 x 10

deadlifts 2x4 then 1 x 1 Kept it light till my bad leg heals if it ever will. I used 340lbs for my single.

Ab coaster 2 x 23 with 20lbs.
Side twist machine 2 x 10 each side

Weighted back extensions 2 x 15 ( held a 25 pound plate behind my head)

Gym observations:

1. Saw a young teenager doing power squats with no safety rack or spotter using 290lbs. I had to tell him of the danger. I said, "What if you fail and no ones around?"  He said the only time he failed was when he was new to lifting and it was 240 lbs.  I know experienced Olympic lifters are very skilled at dumping the weight. I never was and I would be pinned if it wasn't for safety rack spotters.

2. Back in the day I was always use to huge bench pressers doing their thing. I haven't seen a big bench guy yet.

3. Saw a juicer doing partial deadlifts at pins set just above his knees. The weight was about 450lbs. Just wonder if he could deadlift it off the ground.

4. Saw a guy who looks like he juices doing the strangest thing and I can't figure it out. He was holding a short straight bar attached to a pulley that is about hip level. He would hold the bar and put a weight on the weight stack. Now he would do squats. If you can imagine this he isn't lifting the weight just moving it slightly because the weight has no bearing on his squats.

5. In the boxing room I saw a 50 something year old hit the bag with nothing but arm punches while standing static. I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he has physical issues and doing what he can. I just saw him and thought he would get killed if he ever tried to hit someone.

6. I saw a thick big chested 40 year old milf wearing those black panty hose legging and it curved right in to her big sexy ass.  ;)

Thatīs a great all round workout .. nice exercise selection. when iīm fit again i will start on that split. chest/back. Lost strength but not really lots of size. I am also doing Isometric flexes and pushes for my triceps/chest. seems to help. Fully correct on point 1: you need a spotter or safety bars.. :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 16, 2015, 04:58:36 AM
DP is simply my sceen name, but thanks for the LOL :D

You're disappointed? Well, I didn't published your PM. I'm actually a bit disappointed in you guys (you, Steve, oldschool lifter, etc) for being not critical at all about Donny's idiotic behavior (the "I can remove your post" & "just warning you" PM messages/treads, not listening at all when he got multiple warnings from mods and by stalking me in multiple threads he normally never visits). No, you guys keep saying that 'Donny is a good guy' and move to that other thread that doesn't even belong in that section (History - Stories - and Memories). All of this because he isn't the 'man' who can handle critical feedback from a mod.
I appreciate all of you, but this disappoints me! It's just a bit to easy to say "let go" right away.
No worries, I feel no need to continue with this, but I had to say this.
I still post here dutch,and have regular interaction in posts as well with you here and pm's...my opinion is this elevated beyond just a 'posted'workout that was deemed 'outlandish'carried over to pm's and posted and then continuing needling on both parties..'let it go'is just for the sake of keeping the thread'civil',,i was disappointed that it was moved and restarted and I have stated this..i would suggest one thing ,going to other threads to pick on each other is not good either,other than this thread or the other 'mature'thread...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 16, 2015, 05:13:42 AM
I still post here dutch,and have regular interaction in posts as well with you here and pm's...my opinion is this elevated beyond just a 'posted'workout that was deemed 'outlandish'carried over to pm's and posted and then continuing needling on both parties..'let it go'is just for the sake of keeping the thread'civil',,i was disappointed that it was moved and restarted and I have stated this..i would suggest one thing ,going to other threads to pick on each other is not good either,other than this thread or the other 'mature'thread...

Well, I don't feel the need to stalk this autistic moron in every possible thread like he does. I'm just exposing this idiot, that's all. It's kinda ironic that you guys turn to me by saying "hey, just let go". Why not write that in his other 'mature' (yes, apostrophes since it's topic starter is an old 'man' wearing diapers) thread?, since he lacks the balls to post over here
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 16, 2015, 06:03:19 AM
Caught a cold. I haven't had one in 5 or more years. I always alcohol my hands after the gym but I guess it can't be avoided. Touching handles that maybe a couple of hundred have touched in the gym is a lot of germs being spread.  Almost want to give up the membership and go back to my basement but I wouldn't have any stories then.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 16, 2015, 06:18:10 AM
Caught a cold. I haven't had one in 5 or more years. I always alcohol my hands after the gym but I guess it can't be avoided. Touching handles that maybe a couple of hundred have touched in the gym is a lot of germs being spread.  Almost want to give up the membership and go back to my basement but I have any stories then.
last cold i had was because i was sitting talking to a woman in the gym (pre training talk) and she coughed in my face across the table... I had one woman complain in the Ab training area (mats ab rollers) that a man smelled near her.. I even had a guy Fart out loud whilst straining near a group of women... Germs are everywhere in any Gym. One woman complained to me that women were shaving their private parts in the showers ;D Most of these people are Office workers. Another Gym i worked in a Woman peed in the shower and left it... women are worse than men ;D
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 16, 2015, 11:23:52 AM
Caught a cold. I haven't had one in 5 or more years. I always alcohol my hands after the gym but I guess it can't be avoided. Touching handles that maybe a couple of hundred have touched in the gym is a lot of germs being spread.  Almost want to give up the membership and go back to my basement but I have any stories then.

The cold virus is also air born. It is pretty difficult to avoid catching a cold. Everything you touch, whether at the gym or elsewhere could have germs on it. You could sanitize your hands constantly and still get sick. The best thing to do is to keep your resistance strong. Don't obsess about germs. A few germs help build resistance.

If you work out in your basement, you'll have to hire actors to create the same atmosphere you have at the gym for story telling. -Could get expensive.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 16, 2015, 11:31:26 AM
Droppingplates you are always wellcome to write here. we do like you. let us forget the arguments. Hell i do supersets myself  ;) no hard feelings.
Title: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 16, 2015, 11:41:02 AM
DP is simply my sceen name, but thanks for the LOL :D

You're disappointed? Well, I didn't published your PM. I'm actually a bit disappointed in you guys (you, Steve, oldschool lifter, etc) for being not critical at all about Donny's idiotic behavior (the "I can remove your post" & "just warning you" PM messages/treads, not listening at all when he got multiple warnings from mods and by stalking me in multiple threads he normally never visits). No, you guys keep saying that 'Donny is a good guy' and move to that other thread that doesn't even belong in that section (History - Stories - and Memories). All of this because he isn't the 'man' who can handle critical feedback from a mod.
I appreciate all of you, but this disappoints me! It's just a bit to easy to say "let go" right away.
No worries, I feel no need to continue with this, but I had to say this.


Just so you know, I've expressed my feelings equally to both you and Donny.

You are right, advising someone to "let it go" is easy. Doing it is harder. You shouldn't do anything you are not completely comfortable with doing and certainly don't do it for me.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 16, 2015, 11:55:57 AM
Droppingplates you are always wellcome to write here. we do like you. let us forget the arguments. Hell i do supersets myself  ;) no hard feelings.
8)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 16, 2015, 12:02:01 PM
8)
Iīm in a good mood.. ;D deep down i do not bear grudges.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 16, 2015, 02:32:28 PM


Just so you know, I've expressed my feelings equally to both you and Donny.

You are right, advising someone to "let it go" is easy. Doing it is harder. You shouldn't do anything you are not completely comfortable with doing and certainly don't do it for me.


Well, unlike him, I feel no desire to stalk him in every possible thread. That just indicates how childish this autistic moron is. Meanwhile he doesn't seem to have the balls to post over here, being afraid of Chaos, how pathetic ::)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 17, 2015, 03:00:46 AM
This is what motivates me to train...Reg Park at 52 ...  :)
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 17, 2015, 03:11:22 AM
You're an autistic & twisted stalker.
Hope this helps, moron
If you have a beef with me, pm me. otherwise do not write on here. I moved to the History section to avoid this. I will be honest with you i only tried to be friendly to you because a couple of people do think you are OK. I said, you wonīt accept it and i was proved correct.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 17, 2015, 03:19:36 AM
I write it here and I don't give a fuck how you feel about that. You moved to this thread because of Chaos, simple as that. You acted like a complete jerk in that other thread, and you still did the last couple of days by stalking me (reported BTW), and now you try to be friendly?! Fuck off, twisted retard

oh...oh.... i am scared now ;D. listen you need to calm down.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 17, 2015, 06:41:18 AM
Just back from Physio..neck is loose now. I actually managed to do some light close grip ez Bar benches today. trying to get some strength back in my right Tricep. finished off with some one arm Band over head extensions.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 17, 2015, 06:43:12 AM
You're an autistic & twisted stalker.
Hope this helps, moron
other than the petty back and forths here and there,,please refrain from calling donny'autistic'i have a nephew who's autistic and i find the general term towards donny not warranted , if he's twisted fine but he's clearly not autistic...theres is no common ground here to achieve,stay in your own corners and call it a day on any friendliness from the 2 of u...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 17, 2015, 07:04:25 AM
other than the petty back and forths here and there,,please refrain from calling donny'autistic'i have a nephew who's autistic and i find the general term towards donny not warranted , if he's twisted fine but he's clearly not autistic...theres is no common ground here to achieve,stay in your own corners and call it a day on any friendliness from the 2 of u...
words of wisdom Steve...talking of which here is some from Reg...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 17, 2015, 07:52:09 AM
This is what motivates me to train...Reg Park at 52 ...  :)

cool vid god bless him..he looked pretty good man,better legs than arnold at that show lol,,,
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 17, 2015, 07:57:35 AM
cool vid god bless him..he looked pretty good man,better legs than arnold at that show lol,,,
Grew up in Leeds, England and i remember in an interview he spoke about a relative(uncle) not sure who worked down the Pits(Mines).. Reg wrote he had the biggest calves he had ever seen from pushing Coal filled Trolleys... Could have influenced Reg later as his lower legs were H U G E !!!!
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 17, 2015, 08:06:56 AM
delts

front press x4 135-165 drop back to 135 x12...did full reps bottom to top and mixed in half reps to nose level and back,,,gives a nice pump
side/front/rear raise x3 used 20's :P was really pumped here delts looked like canteloupes under shirt lol..my delts have come a long way past few yrs i noticed ..
cable uprights using handles seperate grip i like theses you can pull out a bit at top..x4
hammer press 2 sets single arm at time ,then 1 heavy set both hands pressing jerked some reps with 45 and 25 per side,then last set did 45 a side and went slow full reps both hands..

bis
curls full straight bar x3 85/95/105
db curls x3 30/35/40 mixed range motion first 6-8 bottom to mid then 4-6 did full reps both hands together,,again really fatigues muscle
seated curl machine 'stack version padded like scott curl'x3
2 sets hammers 40's x10

forearms
reverse behind back wrist curls x4
cable wrist curls arms on legs roll wrist down pull up as high as u canx4
 
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 17, 2015, 08:13:18 AM
delts

front press x4 135-165 drop back to 135 x12...did full reps bottom to top and mixed in half reps to nose level and back,,,gives a nice pump
side/front/rear raise x3 used 20's :P was really pumped here delts looked like canteloupes under shirt lol..my delts have come a long way past few yrs i noticed ..
cable uprights using handles seperate grip i like theses you can pull out a bit at top..x4
hammer press 2 sets single arm at time ,then 1 heavy set both hands pressing jerked some reps with 45 and 25 per side,then last set did 45 a side and went slow full reps both hands..

bis
curls full straight bar x3 85/95/105
db curls x3 30/35/40 mixed range motion first 6-8 bottom to mid then 4-6 did full reps both hands together,,again really fatigues muscle
seated curl machine 'stack version padded like scott curl'x3
2 sets hammers 40's x10

forearms
reverse behind back wrist curls x4
cable wrist curls arms on legs roll wrist down pull up as high as u canx4
 

Intelligent workout Steve.. i like partials too or 1 and a half reps. Upright rows sound like you got it working good with the handles.. got to include that tip in my workout when iīm fit.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 17, 2015, 08:16:32 AM
Intelligent workout Steve.. i like partials too or 1 and a half reps. Upright rows sound like you got it working good with the handles.. got to include that tip in my workout when iīm fit.
i like mixing it up i rarely do the same workout in order exercises wise 2 x in row,i keep basics and add some stuff in and out,,keeps thing fresh...like the new leg squat reversed on v squat i like them like a front machine squat..
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 17, 2015, 08:20:30 AM
i like mixing it up i rarely do the same workout in order exercises wise 2 x in row,i keep basics and add some stuff in and out,,keeps thing fresh...like the new leg squat reversed on v squat i like them like a front machine squat..
well i am going to start again doing a split like Rich... Chest/back, shoulders arms, legs.  Always liked this good old basic split. I had my Son spot me today on the close grip benches...you know it makes sense... ;D
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 17, 2015, 08:22:30 AM
well i am going to start again doing a split like Rich... Chest/back, shoulders arms, legs.  Always liked this good old basic split. I had my Son spot me today on the close grip benches...you know it makes sense... ;D
his workouts are good,,i do a bit more volume..break up bodyparts push/pull or larger to small,,it all works as long as you do it .
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 17, 2015, 08:23:44 AM
Things are improving slowly.. i mean a Month ago my right arm just gave in completely...no strength. Really shocking. Now with the injections, Physio and cardio.. I believe cardio helps remove waste products in my joints and aids recovery.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 17, 2015, 08:27:00 AM
his workouts are good,,i do a bit more volume..break up bodyparts push/pull or larger to small,,it all works as long as you do it .
Rich is a good Dude... i know him ages from Raw Iron Forum and Iron Age US... he is liked on Raw Iron. A very good poster who i often exchange mails with.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 17, 2015, 01:29:56 PM
...theres is no common ground here to achieve,stay in your own corners and call it a day on any friendliness from the 2 of u...

I second this.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 17, 2015, 04:55:02 PM
There are many ways to skin a cat. I have been influenced by Arthur Jones and Mike Mentzer in my youth.  I train right to edge of failure. As I age I see the folly of my ways but old habits die hard. I think it's also psychological too that if I don't push to the ragged edge I feel I'm not doing the proper manly work ethic. If you do your reps till your blue in the face then one or two sets is all you can do for an exercise. I do believe in the value of volume. I just can't bring myself to do it.

Trained legs today.

Squats 1 x 9 reps ( pulled a hip muscle again. Barbell squats are out)
Dumbbell squats 2 x 12 ( Went as low as possible. Couldn't have gone more than one inch deeper. For some reason it doesn't bother my hip.)
Leg press 2 x 12. ( This commercial leg press machine needs less plates than my home model)
Leg extension 2 x 12
Leg curls 2 x 12 (Lying down model. I just have a seated ham tractor type at home. This is way better)
Lady Abductor and adductor machine 2 x 12


Donkey calf machine 2 x 15
Seated calf 2 x 15

Ab coaster 2 x 23 20lbs added
Twisting ab machine 2 x 12 (felt incredible. Can't do this at home.)

Went home and trained neck

Gym observations:

There is a personal trainer that is incredibly ripped. He is not big and has been used in modeling work. He is about my size. While I use low sets and a heavy weight he uses low weight and quick sets. For dips I go really deep with a 25lb plate. He uses body weight. I do two sets to failure and he does many. He is ripped and I'm not. But hell, I'm enjoying a beer typing this and he's eating a dried out chicken breast.

Made eye contact with this girl who is really full of herself. She is the one that said she is tired of guys hitting on her. I quickly gave her my back and never looked at her again.

Remember the teenage power lifter who I told should have some kind of spotter rack or a guy spotting? What do I see today? He's doing his squats in the power cage with the safety bars in place. I never give out advice no matter what kind of crazy stuff I see but I had to tell this kid about this safety issue and he took my advice.

In the gym every day I see this guy who has one good arm and the other arm his forearm is missing. He also has a bad leg judging by his severe limp. He trains incredibly hard with all kinds of modifications. Judging by the way he talks with slurred speech I imagine he was in some kind of horrific accident. Maybe a car accident or military.  While I feel sorry for myself for my injuries (shoulders and a right foot I can barely walk on) I see him training and a little voice inside me says stop complaining.  Things can be so much worst. 
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2015, 12:09:13 AM
You are making some very good observations.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 18, 2015, 02:42:38 AM
There are many ways to skin a cat. I have been influenced by Arthur Jones and Mike Mentzer in my youth.  I train right to edge of failure. As I age I see the folly of my ways but old habits die hard. I think it's also psychological too that if I don't push to the ragged edge I feel I'm not doing the proper manly work ethic. If you do your reps till your blue in the face then one or two sets is all you can do for an exercise. I do believe in the value of volume. I just can't bring myself to do it.

Trained legs today.

Squats 1 x 9 reps ( pulled a hip muscle again. Barbell squats are out)
Dumbbell squats 2 x 12 ( Went as low as possible. Couldn't have gone more than one inch deeper. For some reason it doesn't bother my hip.)
Leg press 2 x 12. ( This commercial leg press machine needs less plates than my home model)
Leg extension 2 x 12
Leg curls 2 x 12 (Lying down model. I just have a seated ham tractor type at home. This is way better)
Lady Abductor and adductor machine 2 x 12


Donkey calf machine 2 x 15
Seated calf 2 x 15

Ab coaster 2 x 23 20lbs added
Twisting ab machine 2 x 12 (felt incredible. Can't do this at home.)

Went home and trained neck

Gym observations:

There is a personal trainer that is incredibly ripped. He is not big and has been used in modeling work. He is about my size. While I use low sets and a heavy weight he uses low weight and quick sets. For dips I go really deep with a 25lb plate. He uses body weight. I do two sets to failure and he does many. He is ripped and I'm not. But hell, I'm enjoying a beer typing this and he's eating a dried out chicken breast.

Made eye contact with this girl who is really full of herself. She is the one that said she is tired of guys hitting on her. I quickly gave her my back and never looked at her again.

Remember the teenage power lifter who I told should have some kind of spotter rack or a guy spotting? What do I see today? He's doing his squats in the power cage with the safety bars in place. I never give out advice no matter what kind of crazy stuff I see but I had to tell this kid about this safety issue and he took my advice.

In the gym every day I see this guy who has one good arm and the other arm his forearm is missing. He also has a bad leg judging by his severe limp. He trains incredibly hard with all kinds of modifications. Judging by the way he talks with slurred speech I imagine he was in some kind of horrific accident. Maybe a car accident or military.  While I feel sorry for myself for my injuries (shoulders and a right foot I can barely walk on) I see him training and a little voice inside me says stop complaining.  Things can be so much worst. 
Good post Rich. Reminds me of a woman i trained in the Gym. She was early 30īs and had a good trained body but always came in covering her arms even in hot weather. I trained her and saw burns on her lower arms as she exercised. i said, listen you should not be ashamed itīs better to show your arms and be yourself. She really did start coming in showing her arms and was much happier in general. A very nice woman.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 18, 2015, 07:59:10 AM
I watched the ripped personal trainer fitness model working out between sets. He used 135lbs for sets of squats and the same weight for deatlifts. I would be embarrassed using that light a weight but hell it work for him.

I worked delt and arms today. In a rush to get to the beach. Maybe I will type it up later. Worked out really fast and it hurt the weight I used but I was working out hard due to the speed.   
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 18, 2015, 08:08:28 AM
I watched the ripped personal trainer fitness model working out between sets. He used 135lbs for sets of squats and the same weight for deatlifts. I would be embarrassed using that light a weight but hell it work for him.

I worked delt and arms today. In a rush to get to the beach. Maybe I will type it up later. Worked out really fast and it hurt the weight I used but I was working out hard due to the speed.   
you get me a Beach Babe Rich and iīm coming over  :P
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 18, 2015, 08:36:06 AM
i have legs to day will post later ,,,but mark this in the book of stupid non related injuries,,,so i enjoyed the sun yesterday in back yard added some more browness ;D,,,and i was in a small recliner beach chair,,i've done this bebore no issue even though its not designed to do this i laid it all the way flat but i laid on stomach which ive done but its not comfortable but i was stubborn any way and i tucked my arms up'propped 'so i could read a magazine i did this a few time with arms,last night i felt tightness in elbo/tricep/forearm like i trained hard but 'over extended elbow'now i'm freaking hurting,i iced it and took moltrins,,,even my hand is tingling ,my arm hurts with any rotation and flexing ,,unbelievable...on a positive night going to see u2 at madison square garden nyc sun night 'love them...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 18, 2015, 08:47:30 AM
i have legs to day will post later ,,,but mark this in the book of stupid non related injuries,,,so i enjoyed the sun yesterday in back yard added some more browness ;D,,,and i was in a small recliner beach chair,,i've done this bebore no issue even though its not designed to do this i laid it all the way flat but i laid on stomach which ive done but its not comfortable but i was stubborn any way and i tucked my arms up'propped 'so i could read a magazine i did this a few time with arms,last night i felt tightness in elbo/tricep/forearm like i trained hard but 'over extended elbow'now i'm freaking hurting,i iced it and took moltrins,,,even my hand is tingling ,my arm hurts with any rotation and flexing ,,unbelievable...on a positive night going to see u2 at madison square garden nyc sun night 'love them...
sorry to hear it Steve... I am sure/hope itīs just temporary.  music wise i liked the Undertones better. Do you also like stiff little fingers?
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 18, 2015, 08:58:37 AM
sorry to hear it Steve... I am sure/hope itīs just temporary.  music wise i liked the Undertones better. Do you also like stiff little fingers?
never heard of them...

l listen to depeche mode
smiths
morrissey
clash
pet shop boys 'some of them'
u2 'my fave'
van halen'love them sammy/dave both good to me'

then of course softer side'sinatra/dean martin'most classic italian music english/italian favorites
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Donny on July 18, 2015, 09:10:00 AM
never heard of them...

l listen to depeche mode
smiths
morrissey
clash
pet shop boys 'some of them'
u2 'my fave'
van halen'love them sammy/dave both good to me'

then of course softer side'sinatra/dean martin'most classic italian music english/italian favorites
Stiff little fingers were a contraversial band.. very controversial. I love Sinatra as you know. U2 i like too, i wrote this before but a guy i knew years ago knew Echo and the Bunnymen and the singer punched out Bono at a concert for being a tool...i canīt confirm this but the guy was a rode on tour with them.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2015, 12:21:48 PM
I watched the ripped personal trainer fitness model working out between sets. He used 135lbs for sets of squats and the same weight for deatlifts. I would be embarrassed using that light a weight but hell it work for him.

I worked delt and arms today. In a rush to get to the beach. Maybe I will type it up later. Worked out really fast and it hurt the weight I used but I was working out hard due to the speed.   

From my point of view there is nothing embarrassing about lifting lighter weights. Maybe this is because I am working to be fit and ripped, like the personal trainer at your gym. It was hard to get myself in that mindset after decades of lifting as heavy as I could. I am glad I did though, because I feel so much better. Probably look better too.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2015, 12:24:27 PM
i have legs to day will post later ,,,but mark this in the book of stupid non related injuries,,,so i enjoyed the sun yesterday in back yard added some more browness ;D,,,and i was in a small recliner beach chair,,i've done this bebore no issue even though its not designed to do this i laid it all the way flat but i laid on stomach which ive done but its not comfortable but i was stubborn any way and i tucked my arms up'propped 'so i could read a magazine i did this a few time with arms,last night i felt tightness in elbo/tricep/forearm like i trained hard but 'over extended elbow'now i'm freaking hurting,i iced it and took moltrins,,,even my hand is tingling ,my arm hurts with any rotation and flexing ,,unbelievable...on a positive night going to see u2 at madison square garden nyc sun night 'love them...

What a guy will do just to get a little more tan. Hope the ice works for you.
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2015, 12:31:17 PM
never heard of them...

l listen to depeche mode
smiths
morrissey
clash
pet shop boys 'some of them'
u2 'my fave'
van halen'love them sammy/dave both good to me'

then of course softer side'sinatra/dean martin'most classic italian music english/italian favorites

The Undertones are known for punk rock/new wave that mostly performs in Europe. They have played all sorts of music though. http://www.theundertones.com/_/Home.html (http://www.theundertones.com/_/Home.html) Although I like all genre of music, jazz and classical are my favorites.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 18, 2015, 01:56:04 PM
I guess this thread got moved from the history section?
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: njflex on July 18, 2015, 05:57:33 PM
The Undertones are known for punk rock/new wave that mostly performs in Europe. They have played all sorts of music though. http://www.theundertones.com/_/Home.html (http://www.theundertones.com/_/Home.html) Although I like all genre of music, jazz and classical are my favorites.
oh,,thanks jay,,me and donny both love the clash,,my town i grew up in claim to fame was having the band misfits start there rise into punk scene there,i grew up around the block from them,heard them jam in there garage as a kid...
Title: Re: mature Bodybuilding thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2015, 06:53:38 PM
oh,,thanks jay,,me and donny both love the clash,,my town i grew up in claim to fame was having the band misfits start there rise into punk scene there,i grew up around the block from them,heard them jam in there garage as a kid...

Seattle and more generally the Pacific N.W. is known for punk rock and especially grunge bands....think Nirvana among many others. Portland is also known for jazz.
Title: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2015, 06:59:23 PM
I guess this thread got moved from the history section?

Two threads with essentially the same theme were combined, is my take on this.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on July 18, 2015, 07:07:59 PM
legs brutal push...nice day did a little laying out brush up some more color right jay lol...hot here..

did hammer v squat reversed to front squat done these 3 leg workouts in row,,warmed up plate and then plate and 25 per side,,,followed sets 2 plates/3 and 3 plates 25 per side,,i could have did 4 a side ,,repped 12-10 reps lowest

lying sled press 'stack with chain mechanism,theses are grear lying on back and push od sled,,180/200/240/260

walking kettle ball lunged up gym floor x2

extension 220/220/235/235

hams
lying leg curls 140/150/155/160
seated leg curls 180/195/195

calves
leg press calf raise x5
standing calf raise 200 x12 pigeon toed stance..
Title: The Mature Thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2015, 08:05:37 PM
This week was almost a bust. Almost because I made it to the gym today for the first time. Did my "new" usual routine. 25 minutes of cardio, combo treadmill and stationary bike. Then I worked chest, arms and abs. 3 sets of 10 on chest and arms and 3 sets of 12 on abs. Still keeping the weight light, but I did up it 20 lbs. on Chest and 10 lbs. on arms. Man were my veins popping at the end of the routine. It would be cool if they'd look like that all the time.

My car with 138,000 miles on it decided to have a couple of major things go wrong. There was a hole in the exhaust manifold which on the Mazda is attached to the catalytic converter. The part was over $1,000. The check engine light indicated it was a sensor that was bad, turns out it was even though it originally checked out okay. I had them do a couple of other regular maintenance things including a transmission flush. When all was said and done this cost me a little over $3,000. The car is only worth about $4,500. A new car runs around $30,000 for anything modest, but also a little fun. I was thinking of a Mazda 3 five door hatchback, a Mini Cooper, Subaru Impreza 5 door hatchback, VW Golf 5 door hatchback or wagon or the 2016 Fiat 500X. They all cost about the same with the options I would want. The one with the most power is the Mazda. This is the car my daughter thinks I should get. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on July 19, 2015, 01:31:34 AM
I guess this thread got moved from the history section?
no this thread stays here, just someone playing games again. Getting very childish if you ask me, still has no influence over here so post on here in the history section.
Title: Re: The Mature Thread
Post by: chaos on July 19, 2015, 08:51:38 AM
This week was almost a bust. Almost because I made it to the gym today for the first time. Did my "new" usual routine. 25 minutes of cardio, combo treadmill and stationary bike. Then I worked chest, arms and abs. 3 sets of 10 on chest and arms and 3 sets of 12 on abs. Still keeping the weight light, but I did up it 20 lbs. on Chest and 10 lbs. on arms. Man were my veins popping at the end of the routine. It would be cool if they'd look like that all the time.

My car with 138,000 miles on it decided to have a couple of major things go wrong. There was a hole in the exhaust manifold which on the Mazda is attached to the catalytic converter. The part was over $1,000. The check engine light indicated it was a sensor that was bad, turns out it was even though it originally checked out okay. I had them do a couple of other regular maintenance things including a transmission flush. When all was said and done this cost me a little over $3,000. The car is only worth about $4,500. A new car runs around $30,000 for anything modest, but also a little fun. I was thinking of a Mazda 3 five door hatchback, a Mini Cooper, Subaru Impreza 5 door hatchback, VW Golf 5 door hatchback or wagon or the 2016 Fiat 500X. They all cost about the same with the options I would want. The one with the most power is the Mazda. This is the car my daughter thinks I should get. 
Subaru is an awesome little car, all wheel drive and easily under 30K.
Title: The Mature Thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 19, 2015, 09:56:14 AM
Subaru is an awesome little car, all wheel drive and easily under 30K.

Subaru is the signature car in the Pacific N.W. You see them everywhere. I call them Subarude because the drivers of them drive like they own the road. If I get one, I'll have to practice driving like that.  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: jpm101 on July 19, 2015, 10:49:15 AM
Not training related, but...

My friend just bought a Sabaru Outback.  Any Subaru has 4 wheel drive, a great advantage in all types of weather and on narrow mountain roads. Put a surf/bike rack on top and he's ready to go.  The Forester  is a bit smaller, but same value. Any Subaru would be just about right for The Peoples Republic of Oregon and Washington. KIA, Hyundai and Fiat very good value, around here also. Toyota, Honda and VW......way over priced. Like your buying the name, along with the car.

Might try Edmunds.com if wanting to check out any car. Even a used one, but with Subaru the prices don't seem to drop that much from a brand new one. In SoCal, if searching around, might be surprise what good stuff  there is under $30,000.

I drive a Ford F150, perfect for me. A bumper winch, 4 ft jack and porta power I can go just about anywhere.  Fro the mountains, desert and ocean...and all close at hand.

Good Luck
Title: Re: The Mature Thread
Post by: chaos on July 19, 2015, 11:10:31 AM
Subaru is the signature car in the Pacific N.W. You see them everywhere. I call them Subarude because the drivers of them drive like they own the road. If I get one, I'll have to practice driving like that.  :D
My brother and his wife have had about a dozen of them, all different models. Been through snow, rain and deserts with his family and no issues.
Title: The Mature Thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 19, 2015, 03:46:07 PM
My brother and his wife have had about a dozen of them, all different models. Been through snow, rain and deserts with his family and no issues.

We get lots of rain and not much snow. When we do have snow, the street in front of my home is closed because I live on a steep and curvy road. Lots of cars end up off the road or crashing into each other. I've heard that on top of having a wrecked auto, they also get a fairly expensive ticket for violating the sign. I've seen plenty of Subarus making it up the hill with no problem. AWD would be great for those couple of days we have snow.
Title: Re: The Mature Thread
Post by: chaos on July 19, 2015, 05:29:11 PM
We get lots of rain and not much snow. When we do have snow, the street in front of my home is closed because I live on a steep and curvy road. Lots of cars end up off the road or crashing into each other. I've heard that on top of having a wrecked auto, they also get a fairly expensive ticket for violating the sign. I've seen plenty of Subarus making it up the hill with no problem. AWD would be great for those couple of days we have snow.
Not to mention they are fun to drive.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wes on July 21, 2015, 01:27:06 PM
When I am once again worthy,I will dominate this damn thread.   :-[ 

 ;)
Title: The Mature Thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 21, 2015, 01:41:53 PM
When I am once again worthy,I will dominate this damn thread.   :-[  

 ;)

Why are you not worthy and why would you want to dominate this thread?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 24, 2015, 06:30:06 PM
When I am once again worthy,I will dominate this damn thread.   :-[ 

 ;)
What a coincidence, many of the guys in this thread enjoy being dominated.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 24, 2015, 10:39:59 PM
What a coincidence, many of the guys in this thread enjoy being dominated.

Too funny. Never thought about being dominated. I am a control freak. I suspect this means I have to be the dominator. Sometimes it might be interesting to let go of this and let someone else take all the responsibility....nah, can't do it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on July 25, 2015, 04:55:31 PM
Too funny. Never thought about being dominated. I am a control freak. I suspect this means I have to be the dominator. Sometimes it might be interesting to let go of this and let someone else take all the responsibility....nah, can't do it.
Does your broom closet hide leather masks, handcuffs and various whips?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: IroNat on July 27, 2015, 05:11:23 AM
I don't post much.

Own two Subaru Outbacks.

57 - Training since 16 with a few gaps, train at home with freeweights.  No drugs.

Train 3 times a week, whole body.  Superset 2 exercises together as I go.

Typical workout...

Bench press sets of 3 reps up to 10 sets

Hacksquat or deadlift, Jefferson lift or variation, 3 reps sets, 5 to 10 sets

Power cleans 5 sets of 3 reps

Leg curls 3 sets of 12 reps

Press behind neck 4 sets of 6

Pullups or chinups 5 sets of 5 with added weight

Calf raise - superset 3 sets of 45 to 60 seconds alternating toe position with bodyweight

A couple planks
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on July 27, 2015, 07:47:03 PM
Does your broom closet hide leather masks, handcuffs and various whips?

How'd you know?  Come on over and I will give you a personalized demonstration.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on May 03, 2016, 08:19:42 AM
my second Training after a (minor) pec injury......2nd. back exercise (Pullover-machine, which also trains the pecs a bit....so i did it carefully and not Stretch to the Limit (1-2 inches more normally). In between the 2 working sets 140 kg + 145 kg(320 lbs.), i did a short latspread.....iīm 52 years and 7 Months young/old, Training since 37 years. My act. BW is 255-258 lbs.

 


wish every mature-trainer many more years of good workouts.....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 03, 2016, 11:59:17 AM
my second Training after a (minor) pec injury......2nd. back exercise (Pullover-machine, which also trains the pecs a bit....so i did it carefully and not Stretch to the Limit (1-2 inches more normally). In between the 2 working sets 140 kg + 145 kg(320 lbs.), i did a short latspread.....iīm 52 years and 7 Months young/old, Training since 37 years. My act. BW is 255-258 lbs.

 


wish every mature-trainer many more years of good workouts.....

Pretty strict form with a good load, props!
Is that an original Nautilus machine?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on May 03, 2016, 03:26:38 PM
no, thatīs not the original Nautilus pullover....itīs a machine build in Germany in the late 70īs with a 120 kg (264 lbs.) Stack.
Thatīs in my own weight-training room. The machines i get for free from my old Gym-Boss after he closed his Fitnesscenter about 18 Years ago. He said once to me....if you like you can have all plates and machines i canīt sell. You have 2 days to get the equipment out of the gym, "so i did" (get abotu 15 machines, dumbell sets, plates, Barbells,.....so iīm able to train when i like 24 hour. But i also have 1 contract with a local gym, but still use my own Gym when i like to train there.....no one disturbs...my musc is playing. Sometimes i invite Friends to come train in my "home-gym". A stationary bike for Cardio + a Crosstrainer i get also.....and they are still working.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 03, 2016, 03:36:32 PM
no, thatīs not the original Nautilus pullover....itīs a machine build in Germany in the late 70īs with a 120 kg (264 lbs.) Stack.
Thatīs in my own weight-training room. The machines i get for free from my old Gym-Boss after he closed his Fitnesscenter about 18 Years ago. He said once to me....if you like you can have all plates and machines i canīt sell. You have 2 days to get the equipment out of the gym, "so i did" (get abotu 15 machines, dumbell sets, plates, Barbells,.....so iīm able to train when i like 24 hour. But i also have 1 contract with a local gym, but still use my own Gym when i like to train there.....no one disturbs...my musc is playing. Sometimes i invite Friends to come train in my "home-gym". A stationary bike for Cardio + a Crosstrainer i get also.....and there are still working.

That's a damn sweet deal, will drop you a PM in case I visit Germany :D
This reminds me to a recent conversation with a gym owner, who tries to sell a high end equipment line with air compression for 15k. So far, he hasn't found a party who's interested, so in case I find someone, 1k will be mine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 04, 2016, 12:58:24 PM
An advantage of being mature ancient enough to be on Medicare is the Silver Sneakers program. I recently discovered that I can belong to any gym that accepts Silver Sneakers for free. So far, in addition to the gym I've been a member at for the last 35 years, I've joined LA Fitness and 24 Hour Fitness. I am able to use any of their facilities as often as I want. Sure helps with location and routine boredom. Each gym offers some different equipment.

One of the LA Fitness gyms I've tried has a saltwater pool which I've not yet used, but I will. It also has a lot of different equipment I've never used before. I've been to three LA Fitness locations. All of them are unique. Some are better than others. Yesterday afternoon, I joined 24 Hour Fitness. The location is well equipped but was somewhat crowded at 4:30 p.m. when I toured the place.
Title: Re: The Mature Thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 04, 2016, 01:11:04 PM
Subaru is an awesome little car, all wheel drive and easily under 30K.

I ended up getting another Mazda. It is a CX-3, which has AWD, leather and suede interior, sun roof and so many safety and convenience features that it nearly drives itself. All I have to do is steer. :) It also gets up to 32 mpg. I have been averaging a little over 28 mpg. The four banger really goes and goes even better when I put it in sport mode.

The car cost me about $30,000 (I'm not much of a bargainer). I did manage to get a 1.67% interest rate, financing it for 5 years which was better than the rate the dealer offered.

This is the exterior and interior color combo.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: rocco-x on July 22, 2016, 02:01:19 PM
Damn flex that's the way to represent nj lol...big quads brother.
  I gotta get the balls up to post my pre relapse,active f**k up and now clean n sober pics.just back into the gym doing some basic newb shit till I get used to the soreness. Then onto a DC routine. I WILL return bigger better than before.
   How i never made GB my ultimate go to home forum all the yrs I've been on the boards n here idk.
  Just glad I found this place again.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on August 29, 2016, 11:29:09 PM
the years going by "very quickly". Get 53 in some weeks, Training over 37 Years, 254 lbs. current BW (last sunday). itīs not easy but iīm trying hard to slow down the aging process.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on September 05, 2016, 04:27:44 AM
yesterday evening working out in Thailand.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 05, 2016, 04:36:57 AM
Looking good man, have you considered competing in the masters division?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on September 05, 2016, 08:09:41 AM
not really....i can retire at age 60 (police-officer/criminalist since 1981).....so the + 60 years class maybe is an option, but i don't know how i look in 7 years....hope i can keep my motivation high through the next years. In the last 3 years i was able not to loose musclemass or strength. But every year you get older the "war" against aging gets harder, and of course you have to deal with it. It's also a difference if you train for yourself or to compete against other athletes. If you compete you go "all in" and don't care enough on your health, only thinking of that "damn competition" which is coming closer and closer.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 06, 2016, 01:24:13 PM
JUST TURNED 48 IN JULY...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 06, 2016, 04:11:52 PM
JUST TURNED 48 IN JULY...

Italians look good at any age..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on September 06, 2016, 06:50:43 PM
Italians look good at any age..
8),,thanks man,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on September 10, 2016, 09:16:10 AM
next month 53.........Holiday pic from 3 days ago in Thailand. 6 "2" (190 cm), 117 kg act. 258 lbs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on September 19, 2016, 11:28:00 AM
2 weeks later "back" at home....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 06, 2017, 06:48:42 PM
Concerned about joint health after lifting for over 40 years. At 50 except for aches and pains, everything was full steam ahead. Now as I get close to 60 it seems I have to be careful about joint health. How many guys have bad shoulders, knees elbows and backs? Seems like joints go on every famous lifter.  Guys like Paul Anderson, Grimek, and even Clarence Bass had bad hips. The guys who had destroyed shoulders is a huge list. So many older athletes are going for surgical repairs and joint replacements.

Seems guys that trained for volume with moderate weight seemed to have the best joints but I have no real scientific proof of this. Just empirical knowledge being in the gyms. Guys like Robby Robinson seem injury free for a life time but then again guys like Chris Dickerson has a lot of joint issues.

What's your opinion on training hard but safe for an older trainer?  Some say you should train with volume and train a body part 2 to 3 times a weeks with moderate weights. Exhausting the muscle through "endurance" type lifting of multiple sets and short rests.  Making a light weight heavy so to speak through short rests between sets.

Keeping with the volume opinion I heard one well built older natural guys say high reps. He does from what I can see about 3 to 4 exercises per body part. He does 3 sets per exercise of around 12 to 15 reps.  Short rests between exercises keeps the weights very moderate.  His full range and moderate rep cadence seems to be a safe way of training.

Another view point is this 73 year old guy that who body builds with with heavy weights in my gym. His opinion was to train each body part once a week so it can heal and repair. When he trained a body part more than once a week directly he said he would feel joint pain.  He said in effect, lift heavy with low sets and forget about hitting that body part again till next week. He uses a rep range of 6 to 8 reps. Maybe 2 sets per exercise. This is how I currently train. Split my body in a three ways and train 3 days a week.

I guess we all have to do what suits us. Any thoughts on this? I'm not looking for a debate on volume vs HIT but what an old natural guy should do to protect his joints. My knee and shoulder is giving me a lot of aggravation. One thing for sure. If an exercise hurts then find a substitute. Don't keep doing it because it's thought of as a necessary exercise. I think all inclines chest exercises are out for me. Just hits my painful shoulder bad. In my mind I feel because of all the decades of reading about chest training that inclines are a necessity for upper chest development.  I now think that's BS.  Flat dumbbells bench and declines don't hurt my shoulder so that's what I'm going to do.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 11, 2017, 05:05:32 PM
Greetings Oldtimer,

Many things have already been written on safe/joint friendly weight training, such as exercise selection and the importance of proper form.

I give you 3 things that work very well for me during times of injuries/pains (shoulders & hips in my case), and with 'very well' I mean that I was
(almost) able to train pain free and that the pain post-workout was much less.

1. Perform dynamic mobility work and stretches for at least 30 minutes once a week. Right after cardio is a good moment, as long as you're warmed up.
2. Train with resistance bands or combine them with free weights or machines. Esp pressing movements with bands put less stress on the joints.
3. Train in super slow fashion. The original super slow protocol is 4 reps with a 10 sec concentric & 10 sec eccentric movement, so that's a total T.U.T. of 80 seconds(!)
This works very well, but I found out that 3 reps with a 5 sec concentric/5 sec eccentric works more intense (i.e. more weight moved per second, while it's still not taxing too much on my joints)

I believe that the preferred volume/frequency is personal thing. Myself, I prefer a limited volume with a higher frequency (train a muscle 3 times per 2 weeks), but you also have those typical volume guys who want to pump blood into the muscle from all angles. What matters the most is that you take enough recovery time, which is mostly a matter of listening to the signals of your body.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 14, 2017, 08:00:08 AM
Greetings Oldtimer,

Many things have already been written on safe/joint friendly weight training, such as exercise selection and the importance of proper form.

I give you 3 things that work very well for me during times of injuries/pains (shoulders & hips in my case), and with 'very well' I mean that I was
(almost) able to train pain free and that the pain post-workout was much less.

1. Perform dynamic mobility work and stretches for at least 30 minutes once a week. Right after cardio is a good moment, as long as you're warmed up.
2. Train with resistance bands or combine them with free weights or machines. Esp pressing movements with bands put less stress on the joints.
3. Train in super slow fashion. The original super slow protocol is 4 reps with a 10 sec concentric & 10 sec eccentric movement, so that's a total T.U.T. of 80 seconds(!)
This works very well, but I found out that 3 reps with a 5 sec concentric/5 sec eccentric works more intense (i.e. more weight moved per second, while it's still not taxing too much on my joints)

I believe that the preferred volume/frequency is personal thing. Myself, I prefer a limited volume with a higher frequency (train a muscle 3 times per 2 weeks), but you also have those typical volume guys who want to pump blood into the muscle from all angles. What matters the most is that you take enough recovery time, which is mostly a matter of listening to the signals of your body.
nice,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 14, 2017, 10:39:46 AM
Greetings Oldtimer,

Many things have already been written on safe/joint friendly weight training, such as exercise selection and the importance of proper form.

I give you 3 things that work very well for me during times of injuries/pains (shoulders & hips in my case), and with 'very well' I mean that I was
(almost) able to train pain free and that the pain post-workout was much less.

1. Perform dynamic mobility work and stretches for at least 30 minutes once a week. Right after cardio is a good moment, as long as you're warmed up.
2. Train with resistance bands or combine them with free weights or machines. Esp pressing movements with bands put less stress on the joints.
3. Train in super slow fashion. The original super slow protocol is 4 reps with a 10 sec concentric & 10 sec eccentric movement, so that's a total T.U.T. of 80 seconds(!)
This works very well, but I found out that 3 reps with a 5 sec concentric/5 sec eccentric works more intense (i.e. more weight moved per second, while it's still not taxing too much on my joints)

I believe that the preferred volume/frequency is personal thing. Myself, I prefer a limited volume with a higher frequency (train a muscle 3 times per 2 weeks), but you also have those typical volume guys who want to pump blood into the muscle from all angles. What matters the most is that you take enough recovery time, which is mostly a matter of listening to the signals of your body.

Good advice to train with a slow cadence. I remember when Ken Hutchins first came forth with super slow training as he called it and modified Arthur Jones cam on his Med X machines. I was a lot younger when this came out and I laughed at his protocol of super slow reps. I wrote back in the day it might be a great method for rehabilitation and for older trainers but not for the masses of hard core trainers.  Now I'm an older trainer and I'm not laughing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 14, 2017, 02:51:16 PM
Good advice to train with a slow cadence. I remember when Ken Hutchins first came forth with super slow training as he called it and modified Arthur Jones cam on his Med X machines. I was a lot younger when this came out and I laughed at his protocol of super slow reps. I wrote back in the day it might be a great method for rehabilitation and for older trainers but not for the masses of hard core trainers.  Now I'm an older trainer and I'm not laughing.

You know your stuff! Yes, I was referring to Ken Hutchins' super slow protocol. It's mentally a tough way to train, since you almost need to 'reprogram' your muscles but it results in a great mind muscle connection and the stress on the joints is so much less.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 16, 2017, 05:25:17 AM
On another note when ever I saw a picture of Ken Hutchins he looked out of shape. I mean out of shape for a non trainer.  Maybe he had health issues?  Lifting today. I won't be pretty. LOL.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 16, 2017, 05:57:50 AM
On another note when ever I saw a picture of Ken Hutchins he looked out of shape. I mean out of shape for a non trainer.  Maybe he had health issues?  Lifting today. I won't be pretty. LOL.

I hear you, and generally I would rather listen to someone who followed his own advises with good results. However, I've seen plenty of PT's/coaches/trainers who look good themselves but who have no basic understanding about training/nutrition and/or have no mentor or social skills.
No matter what type of professional someone is, at the end of the day it's someone's track record that brings value to the table.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 16, 2017, 04:26:41 PM
My workout was with relatively light weights today. I really believe an IV antibiotic known for harming tendons while I was in the hospital with pneumonia contributed to my current injuries.  My wife said to stop being aggravated that the alternative could have been death.  Lost so much weight.  Tried to protect my shoulder and knee. Funny dips don't hurt the shoulder but incline presses both bar and dumbbell kill my shoulder. Knee is making a lot of funky noises. Hurts the most in the back of the knee. Wonder if a hamstring pull contributed to this? First hurt it sprinting. I didn't go super slow but used a controlled cadence with full a full range motion. Certain movements are out for now. Leg curls, inclines, and pull ups are definitely out. Last time I did a pull up I saw white lightening pain in the shoulder. Orthopedic surgeon said I have a slap tear but it's in the best possible position to have it.(What ever that means)  He said let it rest for 3 months and if it's still giving me trouble he would operate.  Here I am ignoring his advise. LOL.

Back and chest.


Pull down 2 x 10 120lbs( my home unit has so much friction a little weight feels like a lot. )
Seated cable lat pulls with V handle 2 x 12 165LBS.
One arm dumbbell rows with knee on bench 2 x 10 80lbs
Barbell row 2 x 10 140lbs. ( old school style with body parallel to the floor.)

Dumbbell flat bench 2 x 70lbs (all the way down and up. Controlled movement to protect bad shoulder)
Weighted dips 2 x 10 10lbs (again slow all the way down and up)
Flat flies 2 x 10 45lbs
Push ups 2 x 27-17 (chest tapping floor, body straight and all the way up)

deadlifts 2 x 4 285lbs then 1 x 1 310lbs. ( being careful with the knee. Controlled reps)
Weighted lower back hyper extensions 2 x 15 25lbs plate behind head. (felts slight pain behind bad knee)

Ab wheel roll out 2 x 18
flat crunch with feet on bench 1 x 55 10lbs plate behind head.

Disappointed in pressing weight and my inability to do inclines.  Legs are the next workout. Have to be really careful with the knee. Instead of starting with moderate weight squats I'm going to start with full range leg presses after a lot of warm ups. Hopefully when I get to squats the knee will be ready to go with moderate weights.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on May 18, 2017, 07:17:02 AM
how old are you now ? and how Long you have been Training ?.....itīs a common Thing that older Athletes could not do all exercises they wanted. No. 1 Problem is the shoulder Joint. First you have to quit some heavy shoulder-presses, than some years later quit with free weight incline presses, and also heavy flys.

To find out....what is good, and what hurts to much, and stops me from serious Training too many times is the secret.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 18, 2017, 01:54:43 PM
Here's what I've noticed changes my training as I age; it takes longer to recover, I lift less weight, and when I lay off, my body can't keep up with my ambitions.

Just started back again after a several month layoff. Every muscle I've worked this week is sore as heck regardless that I scaled back my workouts. I'm never going to get as big as I was when I was Thirty no matter how dedicated I am.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 22, 2017, 07:28:53 AM
Isn't strange but I don't get sore anymore. I could go for a 5 mile run or lift for 90 minutes. I don't get sore. Maybe a genetic thing or a life time of continuous training. I'm sure if I did something crazy that I don't do like a 10 mile run or extreme volume training I would  get sore.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 22, 2017, 12:11:18 PM
Isn't strange but I don't get sore anymore. I could go for a 5 mile run or lift for 90 minutes. I don't get sore. Maybe a genetic thing or a life time of continuous training. I'm sure if I did something crazy that I don't do like a 10 mile run or extreme volume training I would  get sore.
HOW YA FEELING ?AFTER THE ILLNESS FINALLY BETTER I GUESS/HOPE..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 24, 2017, 07:00:22 PM
HOW YA FEELING ?AFTER THE ILLNESS FINALLY BETTER I GUESS/HOPE..

I recovered. Long road. I still don't know how I got so sick. Makes me think how precious health is. Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on May 25, 2017, 06:25:39 AM
finish with lighter weights.....feel the Motion, trying to get a pump...not easy for mid 50īs... :-\



today morning before shower, non Training day (without pump)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 25, 2017, 06:46:06 AM
finish with lighter weights.....feel the Motion, trying to get a pump...not easy for mid 50īs... :-\



today morning before shower, non Training day (without pump)


Have you tried taking beetroot juice 2-3 hours before training? Personally I don't believe that getting a pump is necessary for growth, and often I only achieve this in my arms, chest & legs. It's a good feeling tho..

Anyway, you're still in great shape when I see your level of vascularity :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on May 25, 2017, 08:20:51 AM
before Training i take a pre-Workout Supplement with creatine, Beta-Alanin, citrullin, AAKG.....20 Minutes before (from a german Company/ironmax). My last meal before Training is 2 hours before Training. In the morning my first Calories is 50g Whey-Isolate + 4 g extra Leucin + 4 g Creatin with water, about 30-60 Minutes before breakfast. The Picture (in the morning) is on empty stomach, maybe 10 Minutes after wake-up.

"getting a pump" i try in the 2nd half of my workouts...my Training is holistic......using different rep-ranges, rest times, ....looking for a "good mix", but not stress too much my tendoms, Joints...with my Training-style back in my 20īs 30īs 40īs i would kill myself today. When you Train you feel if your Body can handle good with that Kind of stress or not.....

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on May 25, 2017, 10:21:58 AM
finish with lighter weights.....feel the Motion, trying to get a pump...not easy for mid 50īs... :-\



today morning before shower, non Training day (without pump)

nice...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Charlys69 on June 17, 2017, 09:56:31 AM
last 3-4 weeks was going well...bit stronger, same weight, think shape is getting better....tommorrow Long flight to Abu Dhabi, and after to Bangkok.





259 lbs. act.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on June 17, 2017, 03:15:26 PM
I've noticed a fellow who seems to do the same routine every time I see him at the gym. He's a big guy who appears to be very muscular, but not particularly fit. What is interesting about his routine is that he uses really light weight resistance and an average number of reps, 8-10 on every exercise he does. he moves from one exercise to the next with a minimum of rest. His routine seems to work for him. His delts, triceps and biceps are very large.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: IroNat on May 14, 2018, 09:29:34 AM
I'm 60.  Been training fairly steadily since about age 18.

Training heavy with low reps always made me sore in the joints.  At a young age I could recover quickly.

I could do this even into my 40s.

Once I hit the 50s often still trained this way but my joints would then be always sore. 

Hard to get out of bed.

So I ask myself, "Why am I doing this?  I feel lousy."

Higher reps 8+ don't make me feel this way.  Obviously it is because less weight = less joint stress.

I like to train heavy but is the constant pain worth it? 

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on May 14, 2018, 04:29:35 PM
I'm 60.  Been training fairly steadily since about age 18.

Training heavy with low reps always made me sore in the joints.  At a young age I could recover quickly.

I could do this even into my 40s.

Once I hit the 50s often still trained this way but my joints would then be always sore. 

Hard to get out of bed.

So I ask myself, "Why am I doing this?  I feel lousy."

Higher reps 8+ don't make me feel this way.  Obviously it is because less weight = less joint stress.

I like to train heavy but is the constant pain worth it? 



In a word, no.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 14, 2018, 11:19:32 PM
Hopefully I'm still able to train with decent intensity at the age of 60...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 15, 2018, 07:30:16 PM
Hopefully I'm still able to train with decent intensity at the age of 60...

If you have a serious work ethic then yes. I find the drug users start dropping out well before 60. Various reasons. Sometimes it's health, finances or even arrests.  At 60 many many start having health scares like heart concerns, serious joint issues or even an  enlarged prostate. My gym there are a lot of older men. Most train like old men but there are exceptions. On guy is 73 I believe and he still trains really hard with heavy weights. Surely an exception to the rule. He has a youthful speaking voice too.

I find for me at 60 I stopped doing certain movements like the bar bench press and press behind the neck. I don't miss them. I use dumbbells or the standard military press for shoulders. I squatted with a bar for over 40 years. Now I fell better results with the deep range of motion leg press and dumbbell squats performed with a fairly straight back and sinking it. I really think the hardest exercise I have ever done are dumbbell squats. I don't know my name after them and feel close to death. I know guys that use 315lbs with a bar think how can I find dumbbells heavy enough?  Believe me, incredible strong guys would be shot holding two 150lbs dumbbells trying to get 12 reps. I see guys deadlifting the dumbbells thinking they are doing a dumbbell squat. That's not the motion. Get that ass really low as you squat and keep the back fairly vertical holding the dumbbells at your sides.  

I have been a high intensity guy my whole life doing sets to failure and low sets. I've been putting a lot of thought into high set endurance type training. I'm hesitant to make the change because I vainly say I look good for my age and I speculate high intensity is the reason. Then again who knows?  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on June 09, 2018, 07:39:45 AM
I'm in my 60s and training is not only different, it's also difficult.  But I still train.  The other day I just could not do my normal routine due to not only being physically sore but also mentally tired.  So I just did a couple of sets for each body part for 50 reps each.  Got a pump and got out of the gym.

Izzat the "Weider Instinctive Training Principle"?   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 09, 2018, 10:50:50 AM
I'm in my 60s and training is not only different, it's also difficult.  But I still train.  The other day I just could not do my normal routine due to not only being physically sore but also mentally tired.  So I just did a couple of sets for each body part for 50 reps each.  Got a pump and got out of the gym.

Izzat the "Weider Instinctive Training Principle"?   ;D

Maybe you should shoot more cc's :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: IroNat on June 09, 2018, 12:38:57 PM
When you get older you get injured a lot.

Even when you don't do anything stupid you get injured.

Small annoying injuries.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: The Scott on June 09, 2018, 02:52:17 PM
Maybe you should shoot more cc's :D

 ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 11, 2018, 02:59:54 PM
If you have a serious work ethic then yes. I find the drug users start dropping out well before 60. Various reasons. Sometimes it's health, finances or even arrests.  At 60 many many start having health scares like heart concerns, serious joint issues or even an  enlarged prostate. My gym there are a lot of older men. Most train like old men but there are exceptions. On guy is 73 I believe and he still trains really hard with heavy weights. Surely an exception to the rule. He has a youthful speaking voice too.

I find for me at 60 I stopped doing certain movements like the bar bench press and press behind the neck. I don't miss them. I use dumbbells or the standard military press for shoulders. I squatted with a bar for over 40 years. Now I fell better results with the deep range of motion leg press and dumbbell squats performed with a fairly straight back and sinking it. I really think the hardest exercise I have ever done are dumbbell squats. I don't know my name after them and feel close to death. I know guys that use 315lbs with a bar think how can I find dumbbells heavy enough?  Believe me, incredible strong guys would be shot holding two 150lbs dumbbells trying to get 12 reps. I see guys deadlifting the dumbbells thinking they are doing a dumbbell squat. That's not the motion. Get that ass really low as you squat and keep the back fairly vertical holding the dumbbells at your sides.  

I have been a high intensity guy my whole life doing sets to failure and low sets. I've been putting a lot of thought into high set endurance type training. I'm hesitant to make the change because I vainly say I look good for my age and I speculate high intensity is the reason. Then again who knows?  
I respect the hell out of you guys over 60 still training.  I'm mid 40's and the only person I know my age who still lifts regularly.  After age 40 I quit doing really heavy stuff and like you completely eliminated the bench press with a bar and don't miss it either.  All medium weight dumbbell work for usually 12-20 reps but sometimes a little heavier and I enjoy training as much as ever.  I lift at home so I don't have to deal with the weird gym stuff.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 11, 2018, 03:17:07 PM
I respect the hell out of you guys over 60 still training.  I'm mid 40's and the only person I know my age who still lifts regularly.  After age 40 I quit doing really heavy stuff and like you completely eliminated the bench press with a bar and don't miss it either.  All medium weight dumbbell work for usually 12-20 reps but sometimes a little heavier and I enjoy training as much as ever.  I lift at home so I don't have to deal with the weird gym stuff.

You will start seeing a serious difference of men you know who are around the same age at 55. Guys completely start to fall apart. Even many guys who trained hard when they were younger can't seem to find the work ethic to lift seriously in their middle 50's. If you have the work ethic you will notice the difference. Not talking about the steroid guys who foolish keep playing that game into their aging years.

My hair is almost completely white now. I was at the Michigan-Rutgers football game yesterday the guest of rich guy I know who rented out a private deck. I was standing at the wall of this deck or box what ever you call it and Rutgers scored.  I jumped up. The old guy next to me said, "You blocked my view and I have a bad knee. I'm 60 you know."  I told him, "I'm 60 too.  I'll move over so you can see."
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 12, 2018, 03:18:52 AM
Yes, many have serious health problems over 55.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: IroNat on November 12, 2018, 04:01:41 AM
Lots of men are so beat up from physical injuries they suffered  when younger they are limited in what they can do without pain.  Knee surgeries, hip replacements, etc.

All those sports you did when young like playing football and wrecking your knees come back to haunt you.

For those who did not have injuries the combination of poor eating habits, lack of exercise, drinking, smoking, and years of sitting on their asses adds up.

My advices to those of you in your 30s and 40s is to keep training, eat smart,  Moderation in bad habits like drinking, not smoking.  Get enough sleep.  Avoid sun exposure or use sunscreen.

Avoid activities that will beat you up and cause debilitating injuries.  Skip the weekend warrior sports leagues where you could tear up your knee.  It's not worth it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 12, 2018, 01:33:57 PM
Agreed.  That's what I've been doing for the last several years.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 28, 2023, 10:29:09 AM
who here still Squats?  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: B_B_C on November 28, 2023, 10:45:51 AM
who here still Squats?  ;D

I do but much less weight than previously
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 28, 2023, 12:40:53 PM
I do but much less weight than previously
I also do not go so deep in the Squat
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: B_B_C on November 28, 2023, 12:48:47 PM
I also do not go so deep in the Squat

I still go well below parallel but not as deep as before
weight and rep numbers have dropped
unlike many on this site I am getting old so the days of 20 reps X 1.5 body weight are past
which is a pity as the squat is a mighty exercise  that taxes the whole body
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 28, 2023, 12:55:20 PM
I still go well below parallel but not as deep as before
weight and rep numbers have dropped
unlike many on this site I am getting old so the days of 20 reps X 1.5 body weight are past
which is a pity as the squat is a mighty exercise  that taxes the whole body
The Squat has always been my number 1 exercise & yes we have to change it as we age. Still hits all the lower body like no other exercise.
I even rate the Squat over the deadlift
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 29, 2023, 12:21:32 AM
The Squat has always been my number 1 exercise & yes we have to change it as we age. Still hits all the lower body like no other exercise.
I even rate the Squat over the deadlift
If you ever get too old to squat, try the horse stance instead.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 08, 2023, 09:04:19 AM
If you ever get too old to squat, try the horse stance instead.
yes i tend to do the standard stance but i like Sumo deads.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 08, 2023, 07:44:16 PM
I found as I age that I can get out of condition very quickly. I remember as a teenager with something like running if I left it for a month or two it would only take two weeks or so of running to get back to 95% plus of my abilities. Now it takes about 6 months to get back to what is reasonable cardio shape for my age.

Same goes for lifting. If I don't lift for a month it takes about a month to get back. So the morale to the story for me is to never be far away from being in shape. Now I have other obstacles but I'm feeling pretty good now. Not great but I can't complain because I'm training. Beginning to accept that my best days are far behind me but it won't stop me from being the best I can be today with my limitations. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 09, 2023, 12:46:05 AM
yes i tend to do the standard stance but i like Sumo deads.
I meant the hose stance with no weight like what martial artists do.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 09, 2023, 04:31:08 AM
I meant the hose stance with no weight like what martial artists do.
yes those are effective if done properly but i feel slight pain on the inside of my knees with them, or at least i did when i tried them.
I just keep it simple with basic Barbell squats in variations & i also like step ups on a bench.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 09, 2023, 04:34:17 AM
I found as I age that I can get out of condition very quickly. I remember as a teenager with something like running if I left it for a month or two it would only take two weeks or so of running to get back to 95% plus of my abilities. Now it takes about 6 months to get back to what is reasonable cardio shape for my age.

Same goes for lifting. If I don't lift for a month it takes about a month to get back. So the morale to the story for me is to never be far away from being in shape. Now I have other obstacles but I'm feeling pretty good now. Not great but I can't complain because I'm training. Beginning to accept that my best days are far behind me but it won't stop me from being the best I can be today with my limitations.
well iīm 57 now so no spring chicken but i remember the best advice i got was just keep moving ! once you stop the aches & pains come back.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 09, 2023, 07:46:22 AM
well iīm 57 now so no spring chicken but i remember the best advice i got was just keep moving ! once you stop the aches & pains come back.

So true. This is me summer 2022.  I'm not a bodybuilder but a guy who likes to work out. I know I look like crap. I was 64 that summer using zero steroids and no hormone replacement.  A few months later I dropped maybe 15lbs and really started to tighten up then. I never took a  pic to monitor my progress with the dropped weight because I got sick August 2023.  I was diagnosed with leukemia. Oncologist said I have a compromised immune system. Of course then I caught covid and was sick for about two months. My body couldn't fight it. Sickest I have ever been in my life. Had to rush to the ER twice. Now my oncologist says my numbers are stable for now. My bone marrow is producing cancerous cells wrecking my effective white blood cells that attack pathogens/diseases.

 I'm a pretty disciplined person and I would like to think a really good work ethic. Trying my hardest to get back into shape. I keep getting sick though.  Right now I feel pretty good so I'm pushing the pedal to the metal while it lasts. Oncologist is confident that a new chemo for my specific cancer will work. He said he won't pursue it till my numbers are high and he said that could be a year to five years. It's 100K and six months of treatment. Hopefully my insurance will cover it.

My son ran the NYC marathon this year and the family went to see the race. NYC was packed with people watching the event and I found it inspirational. My son had a lot of anxiety about finishing. We saw him run by at about the 18 mile mark.  He was all smiles to see the family.  We hoped in the subway to the finish line. We had tickets for the finish line stands.  Waiting there I thought he quit because we didn't see him for a long time. Using a tracker we found he was still moving. Massive crowd cheering the runners. Suddenly he appeared with around 300 meters to go. I felt so much pride and I was happy for him. He works such long hours and he ran after work many times in the dark. At the finish I went on ahead of the family looking for him.  He texted that he had trouble walking. Damn, I would have carried him if I had to.  When I found him he had a small smile on his face. He needed this victory of completing it so bad. I thought about him when I ran my slug pace 5 mile run yesterday. I was determined to finish my run even though I wanted to stop at two miles.  We all have an expiration date and we all will be destroyed physically by age/illness. Fight the good fight and if you lose go down swinging thinking of God and those you love.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 10, 2023, 12:31:13 AM
Yep, Father Time is undefeated.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 12, 2023, 05:54:50 AM
Yep, Father Time is undefeated.
yes but not if you have the machine.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 13, 2023, 07:36:36 AM
if you want a great triceps exercise try these. Tiger push ups.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 02, 2024, 05:59:29 AM
I trained Back & Shoulders today & i found it very positive. I am now doing a 3 day split of

Chest/triceps/calves

Legs/Biceps/abs ( i like to train abs often sometimes when not training & i find hitting Biceps inbetween sets of leg work keeps me motivated)

shoulder/back/calves (calves are my weak area, long/wide but not the mass/thickness i want)

see what happens.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 03, 2024, 12:03:00 AM
I trained Back & Shoulders today & i found it very positive. I am now doing a 3 day split of

Chest/triceps/calves

Legs/Biceps/abs ( i like to train abs often sometimes when not training & i find hitting Biceps inbetween sets of leg work keeps me motivated)

shoulder/back/calves (calves are my weak area, long/wide but not the mass/thickness i want)

see what happens.
I like training back and shoulders together too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 03, 2024, 02:05:26 AM
I like training back and shoulders together too.
seems to work well together, normally iīll train shoulders with arms or with just triceps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 03, 2024, 04:22:25 AM
I like training back and shoulders together too.

I use to change up my training quite a bit through the years. One of my favorite splits was below.

Chest and arms
legs
back and shoulders
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 03, 2024, 05:53:12 AM
I use to change up my training quite a bit through the years. One of my favorite splits was below.

Chest and arms
legs
back and shoulders
A good split & i remember doing something like

Incline BB press
Flat flyes
Close grip bench press
Dips (between benches at the time)
incline Tri Extensions (great stretch)

I think that was it & it was a great pump
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 04, 2024, 12:06:21 AM
I use to change up my training quite a bit through the years. One of my favorite splits was below.

Chest and arms
legs
back and shoulders
That's what I'm doing right now.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 04, 2024, 06:55:35 AM
That's what I'm doing right now.

Yates was doing that split prior to 1993. It's the one he used for the Night of The Champions.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 04, 2024, 08:38:45 AM
On the subject of split routines, i actually find a full body workout harder. If i ever wanted to drop body fat fairly quickly i always used a full body workout consisting of basic lifts.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 05, 2024, 12:14:22 AM
On the subject of split routines, i actually find a full body workout harder. If i ever wanted to drop body fat fairly quickly i always used a full body workout consisting of basic lifts.
I loved full body routines when I was younger but they wear me out now.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2024, 06:11:09 AM
I loved full body routines when I was younger but they wear me out now.
yes and 3 times a week can be taxing on the recovery if training hard, for me anyway.
younger guys will probably have no problems.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2024, 10:57:21 AM
Forearm conditioning today on a wooden Dummy ( donīt laugh try it )
I also do these Zottman curls.



Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: SweetDaddySiki on January 15, 2024, 08:23:25 AM
yes and 3 times a week can be taxing on the recovery if training hard, for me anyway.
younger guys will probably have no problems.

Good point about recovery. I love 3 day full body's and that's what I do but they can be taxing as you increase your poundages. Harder to recover. I wonder if that's really the best workout for older naturals.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 19, 2024, 04:26:15 AM
Good point about recovery. I love 3 day full body's and that's what I do but they can be taxing as you increase your poundages. Harder to recover. I wonder if that's really the best workout for older naturals.
I think a 3 or 4 day split is best such as

Chest+arms
back+shoulders
Legs

whatever but i think thereīs a lot of time for recovery here.
Benching or squatting 3x a week is hard. your strength goes up fast but soon you hit a plateau.
Maybe if doing a full body workout it could be spread out more with more rest days inbetween workouts such as 2 full rest days between each session.
I did this & it worked well.
some people change exercises too each workout doing say fly movements one day & benches on the next workout, or whatever as nothing is carved in stone
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2024, 04:08:59 AM
Good shape for his age & a good workout

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 15, 2024, 08:06:36 AM
I have to agree with Jay here inclines feel better than a flat press. Not that i dislike flat BB benches as they train everything.
Having said that some studies show that Declines are the king. Declines i do not see much anymore in the Gym & iīm not sure why

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: IroNat on February 16, 2024, 05:48:03 AM
Good shape for his age & a good workout



Really good.  Very fine physique.

Check out his other videos: https://www.youtube.com/@fitprohawaii/videos (https://www.youtube.com/@fitprohawaii/videos)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 16, 2024, 09:53:38 AM
Really good.  Very fine physique.

Check out his other videos: https://www.youtube.com/@fitprohawaii/videos (https://www.youtube.com/@fitprohawaii/videos)

yes a very interesting training philosophy
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 01, 2024, 03:10:28 AM
Jumping squats are an old school exercise but this guy takes it to another level.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: IroNat on March 01, 2024, 06:47:58 AM
Jumping squats are an old school exercise but this guy takes it to another level.



That dude can jump!

Wow!!!!!!  :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 01, 2024, 08:35:37 AM
That dude can jump!

Wow!!!!!!  :o
he jumps like a frog  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 01, 2024, 08:51:10 AM
used Dumbbells myself but a great exercise & very overlooked

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: IroNat on March 02, 2024, 06:14:40 AM
used Dumbbells myself but a great exercise & very overlooked



Dumbbells would seem much safer for your spine.

I enjoy your training posts, Donny.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 02, 2024, 06:25:58 AM
Dumbbells would seem much safer for your spine.

I enjoy your training posts, Donny.
Thank you & your training is spot on too. People do whatīs right for them so i never really criticise anyone
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 14, 2024, 04:06:18 AM
Due to time restrictions in the next while i am now on a full body training routine(s)
I did it this morning & i have to say in a lot of ways returning to such a workout humbles you.. sweated like a little piggy !
I didnīt squat today as i went for a long cycle tour last night & just decided to whimp out & do leg extensions/Leg curls  ::) my excuse is i am now an old fart
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 15, 2024, 06:30:52 AM
This guy deserves a mention on here. No days off & i have to say if you look at his videos heīs got bigger.
In some lifts heīs actually got stronger but some heīs stagnated.
however an interesting experiment