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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2450 on: November 17, 2021, 02:10:53 PM »



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The first time in history a Medicines ineffectiveness is blamed on the people who DONT take it -Baffles me

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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2451 on: November 17, 2021, 02:27:50 PM »
Why is this, at least publicly, a left/right issue ??? I wouldn't take an untested drug no matter who was in office. Would untested druggies not get their fix under a Trump admin???



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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2452 on: November 17, 2021, 03:02:15 PM »


Scott Gregory
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The first time in history a Medicines ineffectiveness is blamed on the people who DONT take it -Baffles me


Of course, the only people claiming the vaccine is “ineffective” are the antivaxxers.

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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2453 on: November 17, 2021, 03:04:02 PM »
Why is this, at least publicly, a left/right issue ??? I wouldn't take an untested drug no matter who was in office. Would untested druggies not get their fix under a Trump admin???




Untested?

Over 3 billion people have received the vaccine?

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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2454 on: November 17, 2021, 03:13:54 PM »
Untested?

Over 3 billion people have received the vaccine?

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If you could give the latest underground-lab version of crack, right now, to 5 billion people, that wouldn't mean the latest underground-lab version of crack's been tested.

The vax/untested-drug hasn't been available long enough to test for long-term effects.

Experimenting on citizenry isn't testing.

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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2455 on: November 17, 2021, 03:17:28 PM »
If you could give the latest underground-lab version of crack, right now, to 5 billion people, that wouldn't mean the latest underground-lab version of crack's been tested.

The vax/untested-drug hasn't been available long enough to test for long-term effects.

Experimenting on citizenry isn't testing.

Actually this is not correct. mRNA vaccines have been around for decades.


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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2456 on: November 17, 2021, 03:27:57 PM »
If you could give the latest underground-lab version of crack, right now, to 5 billion people, that wouldn't mean the latest underground-lab version of crack's been tested.

The vax/untested-drug hasn't been available long enough to test for long-term effects.

Experimenting on citizenry isn't testing.

Also, by refusing the vaccine you're assuming the long term affects of the virus are minimal.

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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2457 on: November 17, 2021, 03:29:26 PM »
Actually this is not correct. mRNA vaccines have been around for decades.

You're arguing a position I didn't advance. Modern pharmaceuticals have been around for two hundred years but it doesn't mean this particular drug has been tested for long-term effects.

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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2458 on: November 17, 2021, 03:31:42 PM »
Also, by refusing the vaccine you're assuming the long term affects of the virus are minimal.

You assumed that I'm assuming.

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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2459 on: November 17, 2021, 03:36:38 PM »
You assume that I have.

You have two choices:

1. Trust the American made vaccine

2. Trust the mystery Chinese virus. (Antivaxxer words not mine).

Pretty foolish to choose the virus.


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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2460 on: November 17, 2021, 03:39:38 PM »
At this point I have nothing else to say on the subject. The marks that are still buying into this are gonna keep doing so because they’re fucking marks. From here on in I’m just going to re-purpose old posts from 2020.


The people who did the least social distancing were the least affected. The whole thing is a complete fraud:




https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html


Cuomo said nearly 84% of the hospitalized cases were people who were not commuting to work through car services, personal cars, public transit or walking. He said a majority of those people were either retired or unemployed. Overall, some 73% of the admissions were people over age 51.

He said the information shows that those who are hospitalized are predominantly from the downstate area in or around New York City, are not working or traveling and are not essential employees. He also said a majority of the cases in New York City are minorities, with nearly half being African American or Hispanic.

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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2461 on: November 17, 2021, 03:42:25 PM »
You have two choices:

1. Trust the American made vaccine

2. Trust the mystery Chinese virus. (Antivaxxer words not mine).

1. You don't have to trust the American made vaccine. Millions don't.

2. Once again, you're arguing a position that I didn't advance. Have it out with whoever said 'trust the Chinese virus', not with someone who didn't.

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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2462 on: November 17, 2021, 03:54:50 PM »
1. You don't have to trust the American made vaccine. Millions don't.

2. Once again, you're arguing a position that I didn't advance. Have it out with whoever said 'trust the Chinese virus', not with someone who didn't.

There is a gap in your logic.

You can take the vaccine OR you can get the virus at full effect. There is no third option.


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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2463 on: November 17, 2021, 04:00:24 PM »
There is a gap in your logic.

You can take the vaccine OR you can get the virus at full effect. There is no third option.

There is a gap in your logic. You're applying binary thinking to a non-binary choice. You also haven't defined what 'the virus at full effect' means.

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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2464 on: November 17, 2021, 04:09:54 PM »
There is a gap in your logic. You're applying binary thinking to a non-binary choice. You also haven't defined what 'the virus at full effect' means.

I’ve demonstrated already that it’s a binary choice.



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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2465 on: November 17, 2021, 04:18:13 PM »
I’ve demonstrated already that it’s a binary choice.

You have not, vaguely stating an opinion is not demonstrating anything of merit. Nor have you defined what "having the virus at full effect" means.

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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2466 on: November 17, 2021, 04:31:31 PM »
Actually this is not correct. mRNA vaccines have been around for decades.


While they have "been around", what successful drug uses them? None yet. None have ever made it past standard trials.

Of course this has all been covered previously in this thread.


"BioNTech in 2008 and Moderna in 2010 were founded to develop mRNA biotechnologies.[32][33] The US research agency DARPA launched at this time the biotechnology research program ADEPT to develop emerging technologies for the US military.[34][35] The agency recognized the potential of nucleic acid technology for defense against pandemics and began to invest in the field.[34] DARPA grants were seen as a vote of confidence that in turn encouraged other government agencies and private investors to invest in mRNA technology.[35] DARPA awarded at the time a $25 million grant to Moderna.[36]

The first human clinical trials using an mRNA vaccine against an infectious agent (rabies) began in 2013.[37][38] Over the next few years, clinical trials of mRNA vaccines for a number of other viruses were started. mRNA vaccines for human use have been studied for infectious agents such as influenza, Zika virus, cytomegalovirus, and Chikungunya virus."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRNA_vaccine#Efficacy


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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2467 on: November 17, 2021, 04:34:27 PM »
There is a gap in your logic. You're applying binary thinking to a non-binary choice. You also haven't defined what 'the virus at full effect' means.


You can't apply logic to dogma.

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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2468 on: November 17, 2021, 04:46:06 PM »
You have two choices:

1. Trust the American made vaccine

2. Trust the mystery Chinese virus. (Antivaxxer words not mine).

Pretty foolish to choose the virus.



3. trust your immune system perfected over the course of 100,000 plus years.

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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2469 on: November 17, 2021, 04:49:28 PM »
What you are saying is not correct. The unvaccinated are 200 times more likely to spread the virus.

Also, the virus has mutated. You can’t compare year over year.


Again, you can't argue with a big pharma zealot. The have very successfully preyed on people's need to feel safe.

A majority of people have a vaccine anywhere you look in the world but the case rates are the same as last year. Okay, that makes zero sense when the minority number of unvaxxed are gaining natural immunity all the while.

Gibraltar 99% plus vaxxed but cases skyrocketing...let's ignore that impossibility with a working vaccine. That is dogmatic at best.

Completely ignore people recovered with natural immunity who are not super spreader viral shedders and mutant makers like the vaxxxed are and always add those numbers in like they are sick and spreading everywhere....spreading to people that are "vaccinated"....because...uh...well, the stance makes no sense at all.

Also, in OAK's case....one of the first times I've ever seen anyone claim superior intelligence for doing what the average population did. No level of skepticism is a sign of low to average intelligence. A twisted take on virtue signalling, but under it all is a person who knows they've been had and find it hard to admit.

Faith in the vaxxxed will be tested when cases spike this winter.

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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2470 on: November 17, 2021, 04:50:02 PM »
There is a gap in your logic.

You can take the vaccine OR you can get the virus at full effect. There is no third option.

There is a gap in your head where a brain is supposed to be.

Gimmick.

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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2471 on: November 17, 2021, 07:50:20 PM »


3. trust your immune system perfected over the course of 100,000 plus years.


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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2472 on: November 17, 2021, 07:55:34 PM »



see how stupid this is
in no way shape or form does an immune system work if you fall out of a plane---its a moronic comparison and makes no sense. Fucking stupid ppl
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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2473 on: November 17, 2021, 09:54:56 PM »
see how stupid this is
in no way shape or form does an immune system work if you fall out of a plane---its a moronic comparison and makes no sense. Fucking stupid ppl


How to Deal with Stupid Liberals


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Re: Covid 19 - Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #2474 on: November 17, 2021, 09:58:55 PM »
see how stupid this is
in no way shape or form does an immune system work if you fall out of a plane---its a moronic comparison and makes no sense. Fucking stupid ppl

Yes I know.

It’s a classic example of…..antivaxxer logic.

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