Author Topic: Why do people still worship a 'higher power' (Read 24586 times)

Bigger Business · « **on:** April 17, 2006, 08:45:58 PM »

Its 2006...all this praying and going to church and bumper stickers isnt working dudes

The world is still screwed

Its time to try something else

ToxicAvenger · « **Reply #1 on:** April 17, 2006, 09:14:08 PM »

they'll pay for it in narn..umm hell...

w8tlftr · « **Reply #2 on:** April 18, 2006, 03:46:51 AM »

Quote from: Bigger Business on April 17, 2006, 08:45:58 PM

Its 2006...all this praying and going to church and bumper stickers isnt working dudes

The world is still screwed

Its time to try something else

That's exactly why a relationship with Christ and prayer is so important, BB.

Johnny Apollo · « **Reply #3 on:** April 18, 2006, 07:06:19 AM »

Quote from: w8tlftr on April 18, 2006, 03:46:51 AM

That's exactly why a relationship with Christ and prayer is so important, BB.

People have been having a "relationship with chirst" for 2,000 years and it hasn't made the world a better place. HUMANS and their discoveries and science has made the world a better place.

"Relationship with christ"? Talk about a one way relationship!

w8tlftr · « **Reply #4 on:** April 18, 2006, 07:19:47 AM »

Quote from: Johnny Apollo on April 18, 2006, 07:06:19 AM

People have been having a "relationship with chirst" for 2,000 years and it hasn't made the world a better place. HUMANS and their discoveries and science has made the world a better place.

"Relationship with christ"? Talk about a one way relationship!

*Sigh*

A relationship with Christ is a two-way street, Johnny.

And while science may make our lives easier it has also provided the means for our own destruction.

Science does not teach us compassion and self-sacrifice for others.

Johnny Apollo · « **Reply #5 on:** April 18, 2006, 07:23:49 AM »

Quote from: w8tlftr on April 18, 2006, 07:19:47 AM

*Sigh*

A relationship with Christ is a two-way street, Johnny.

And while science may make our lives easier it has also provided the means for our own destruction.

Science does not teach us compassion and self-sacrifice for others.

Neither does religion(Or a reliationship with an imaginary dead jew).

w8tlftr · « **Reply #6 on:** April 18, 2006, 09:39:15 AM »

Quote from: Johnny Apollo on April 18, 2006, 07:23:49 AM

Neither does religion(Or a reliationship with an imaginary dead jew).

God help us all for you truly are a rock with lips.

Johnny Apollo · « **Reply #7 on:** April 18, 2006, 09:42:38 AM »

Quote from: w8tlftr on April 18, 2006, 09:39:15 AM

God help us all for you truly are a rock with lips.

For the 50th time, Calling me made up names doesn't make you any less wrong.

w8tlftr · « **Reply #8 on:** April 18, 2006, 10:53:08 AM »

Quote from: Johnny Apollo on April 18, 2006, 09:42:38 AM

For the 50th time, Calling me made up names doesn't make you any less wrong.

What names? Names like Atheist Boi, Nazi-Bot, or Captain Nazi? You've made your lack of faith clear for all to see along with your views of white supremacy. Seems all those names fit you like a glove, Mr. Simpson.

Which of my statements is wrong? That a relationship with Jesus is a two-way street, Christianity teaches morality and compassion (while science does not), or that the road to self-enlightenment as a Christian is through service to others?

When it's all said and done you're just another angry atheist telling me how I should interpret my faith in God. You may have read the Bible, Johnny, but you really don't seem to grasp it's meaning. Stella and Collosus make that obvious time and time again.

So go ahead with your durka durka jihad against Christianity. It may take you some time but you'll eventually have to realize you will not destroy the faith of anyone here.

ToxicAvenger · « **Reply #9 on:** April 18, 2006, 11:51:18 AM »

"The cause of and solution to, all of lifes problems " homer s

w8tlftr · « **Reply #10 on:** April 18, 2006, 12:15:12 PM »

Quote from: ToxicAvenger! on April 18, 2006, 11:51:18 AM

"The cause of and solution to, all of lifes problems " homer s

LMAO

ToxicAvenger · « **Reply #11 on:** April 18, 2006, 12:18:15 PM »

everyone is welcome to join me for thursday nite mass at cornerstone bar n grill in college park maryland..

i'll be the drunk paki by the pool tables upstairs.
hell just ask for J and they'll take ya to me..

canyoufeeltheforce · « **Reply #12 on:** April 18, 2006, 05:05:55 PM »

Why do people still worship a 'higher power'

Answer - The fear of nothingness after death

Butterbean · « **Reply #13 on:** April 18, 2006, 06:30:57 PM »

Actually, among other things, I gained a wonderful sense of peace when I came to Christ. I still have it.

If there really was "nothingness after death," why would there be anything to fear?

canyoufeeltheforce · « **Reply #14 on:** April 19, 2006, 12:28:07 AM »

Quote from: STella on April 18, 2006, 06:30:57 PM

Actually, among other things, I gained a wonderful sense of peace when I came to Christ. I still have it.

If there really was "nothingness after death," why would there be anything to fear?

I envy your sense of peace STella but unfortunately I can not find a faith/religion that I believe in .
I fear the thought of "nothingness after death" as I enjoy life so much .

Bigger Business · « **Reply #15 on:** April 19, 2006, 12:34:36 AM »

Quote from: STella on April 18, 2006, 06:30:57 PM

If there really was "nothingness after death," why would there be anything to fear?

pain mostly

i know its gonna be a car wreck.........and i know its gonna hurt like a mofo!

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coincidence?

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king · « **Reply #16 on:** April 19, 2006, 12:48:32 AM »

Quote from: STella on April 18, 2006, 06:30:57 PM

Actually, among other things, I gained a wonderful sense of peace when I came to Christ. I still have it.

If there really was "nothingness after death," why would there be anything to fear?

ditto on that

gtbro1 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 19, 2006, 12:52:30 AM »

Quote from: Bigger Business on April 19, 2006, 12:34:36 AM

pain mostly

i know its gonna be a car wreck.........and i know its gonna hurt like a mofo!

Bigger Business
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coincidence?

LMFAO....Probably be hit by some woman talking on her cell while driving.

Johnny Apollo · « **Reply #18 on:** April 20, 2006, 08:08:21 AM »

Quote from: STella on April 18, 2006, 06:30:57 PM

Actually, among other things, I gained a wonderful sense of peace when I came to Christ. I still have it.

If there really was "nothingness after death," why would there be anything to fear?

The Serotonin System and Spiritual Experiences.

Borg, Jacqueline et tal. "The Serotonin System and Spiritual Experiences." American Journal of Psychiatry 160:11 (2003): 1965-1968.

Your "Peacefulness" explained.

If there was nothing after death why would there be fear? We fear the end of our consciousness. All of the pleasures we get from this life would end. All experience would end. Nothing would be left but everlasting dreamless sleep. The concept has frightened people all throughout time. They like to imagine they live forever even after they die.

GET_BIGGER · « **Reply #19 on:** April 20, 2006, 08:21:20 AM »

Quote from: Johnny Apollo on April 20, 2006, 08:08:21 AM

They like to imagine they live forever even after they die.

No, they like to imagine they have a sense of worth after this life which only comes through eternal life with our creator.....even if it's subconcious. We were created to be loved. The only way to know true and unconditional love is through our Creator. If I thought my life was meaningless I would fear death too.

Johnny Apollo · « **Reply #20 on:** April 20, 2006, 08:28:01 AM »

Quote from: GET_BIGGER on April 20, 2006, 08:21:20 AM

No, they like to imagine they have a sense of worth after this life which only comes through eternal life with our creator.....even if it's subconcious. We were created to be loved. The only way to know true and unconditional love is through our Creator. If I thought my life was meaningless I would fear death too.

"True love" "Unconditional love"..Bla,Bla,Bla.

Here's your "Unconditinal love".

Jesus loves the little children...All the children of the world...

GET_BIGGER · « **Reply #21 on:** April 20, 2006, 08:31:59 AM »

Unfortunatly there is good vs. evil. That is sin my friend. That is the price of choice, the ultimate showing of true love.

Johnny Apollo · « **Reply #22 on:** April 20, 2006, 08:36:33 AM »

Quote from: GET_BIGGER on April 20, 2006, 08:31:59 AM

Unfortunatly there is good vs. evil. That is sin my friend. That is the price of choice, the ultimate showing of true love.

1.You're "Limiting God". You're insinuating an omnipotent God can't completly get rid of starvation. Whatever the cause may be. "Omnipotent" means "all powerful" as in it can do ANYTHING including get rid of hunger even if sin exists or not. That argument doesn't work.

2.You're saying this little boy "sinned",And that's why he's starving? And please don't fucking post something stupid like "We all sin" because that'd make absolutely no sense. If we all sin and that's the result of sin then why aren't we all starving to death?

Why that little boy and not YOU? Explain.

Butterbean · « **Reply #23 on:** April 20, 2006, 07:28:27 PM »

Quote from: Johnny Apollo on April 20, 2006, 08:08:21 AM

The Serotonin System and Spiritual Experiences.

If there was nothing after death why would there be fear? We fear the end of our consciousness. All of the pleasures we get from this life would end. All experience would end. Nothing would be left but everlasting dreamless sleep. The concept has frightened people all throughout time. They like to imagine they live forever even after they die.

This makes absolutely no sense to me.

If I truly believed that there was nothing after death, I would not fear the end of my consciousness....how would I know once I was "gone?" That's ridiculous to me. If all pleasures, experience and suffering would end, so what? What is frightening about that?

Nothing.

Johnny Apollo · « **Reply #24 on:** April 21, 2006, 09:33:19 AM »

Quote from: STella on April 20, 2006, 07:28:27 PM

This makes absolutely no sense to me.

If I truly believed that there was nothing after death, I would not fear the end of my consciousness....how would I know once I was "gone?" That's ridiculous to me. If all pleasures, experience and suffering would end, so what? What is frightening about that?

Nothing.

You may or may not find "end of everything" frightening. Maybe you do and are just arguing it to support your initial claim. Really doesn't matter.

Plenty of people do indeed find the end of consciousness frightening.