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Re: British Bulldogs Thread:
« Reply #50 on: August 03, 2009, 09:07:55 AM »
in his book, Bret went into details on how Davey had smoked crack for weeks straight before their big match and couldn't remember a single spot they had rehearsed.  If you go back at watch many times during the match you can see Davey's eye darting around all over the place just like a junkies.

Bret also told how Davey's drug use had deteriorated into straight morphine injections and drips prior to his death.

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« Reply #51 on: August 03, 2009, 09:22:03 AM »
I haven’t read Bret’s book.

I know the Hart family ostracized Davey due to his drug use/behavior.
Did Bret also mention bad feelings when Davie started dating one of the Hart brother’s (maybe Keith’s) ex-wife?

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« Reply #52 on: August 04, 2009, 04:38:58 AM »
in his book, Bret went into details on how Davey had smoked crack for weeks straight before their big match and couldn't remember a single spot they had rehearsed.  If you go back at watch many times during the match you can see Davey's eye darting around all over the place just like a junkies.

Bret also told how Davey's drug use had deteriorated into straight morphine injections and drips prior to his death.
This is true. Bret had to carry that match as Davey missed a few spots due to being high on pills.

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« Reply #53 on: August 11, 2009, 06:56:18 PM »
The following article/interview appeared in the Aug. 24th 1999 edition of the Calgary Sun. It discusses the details of Davey Boy Smith’s WWF return following Owen Hart’s fatal accident, and Bret Hart’s reaction:




It's Rocky and Family Feud all wrapped in one.

Davey Boy Smith, the 35-year-old wrestler the world calls The British Bulldog, returns to the ring next month.

He's inked a five-year, multi-million dollar deal with Vince McMahon's World Wrestling Federation.

Still, with all that, Davey is angry.

Angry at those who thought he was all washed up.

Angry at the WWF's rival, World Championship Wrestling, which fired him months ago as he lay in hospital.

Angry at brother-in-law Bret Hart, who dragged Davey through the dirt when Davey vowed to wrestle again.

"I'm really psyched. My strength is ungodly. I feel I could run through a wall," says Davey, in his first interview with the press since his signing a few weeks ago.

"I baffled the doctors. There were the doubters who said I was all washed up.
"There were those who said the Bulldog was a lazy, fat slob.

"There were some people in my own family who were hoping I wouldn't come back.

"But I said: I'll show you all. And I'll show Bret. When I really get mad, I get furious. Make me motivated and I'll go for it. I'm not afraid of anyone. If Bret's got a problem with me, he knows where I live."

When this column informed the public of Davey's comeback in July, Bret used his Sun column to slam Davey.

"Saw a strange sight yesterday. Dogs rolling in manure and loving every minute of it.

"For some reason, it made me think of how the British Bulldog will do anything to work for the WWF," wrote Bret.

"There were these four little pigs in the pig races. The guy there told me they'd sell out their mothers and brothers and sisters to the slaughterhouse, just for those mini donuts. Kind of reminds me of ... er ... I won't go there this week," Bret also wisecracked.

Davey can't understand Bret. Davey does not think his comeback is in any way defiling the memory of Owen Hart, who died in a WWF match earlier this year.

"Why does Bret attack me? What have I done to him except stick by him? I can't figure out why. He even called my wife on the phone and said: If I see you on the street, I'll run you over, you..."

The rest cannot be printed in a family newspaper.

"I'm really angry at Bret. I went with him to the WCW. I paid a $100,000 fine to leave the WWF. I was backing Bret up. I felt responsible for what happened to Bret, when he lost his belt.

"After all that, he nails me. When I was let go, who the hell backed me up?"

"Why should I leave what I love for one person? Does Bret expect me to sit at home and do nothing the rest of my life? Does he want me to lose everything just to satisfy him? I refuse to do that.

"What happened to Owen is tragic but there is nothing I can do about it. Vince did not push Owen."

Six days a week down at B.J.'s Gym, Davey shakes aside all the naysayers and keeps his eye on the prize.

He diets like crazy and sweats like crazy to get down to his fighting weight of 245 lbs.

There is something in the heart and guts of this former delivery boy from the English town of Golborne, near Manchester.

Something that will not say no.

The way back amazes even Davey.

Davey smashes his back against a trap door in the ring a year ago.

He gets hooked on painkillers and enters rehab.

Three discs in his back dissolve in a sea of infection.

Doctors say his career is through.

His sister dies. His mom dies. Owen, his brother-in-law and one-time tag-team partner, dies.

But he does not give up.

The road to his new contract begins in April with Davey in a bed at the Rockyview Hospital. His back battered, his wrestling career seemingly over.

It was then Vince McMahon called. Davey and Vince joke around. Vince asks about Davey's back.

"Six specialists tell me I'll never wrestle again but Vince told me: 'If anyone can do it, you can do it.' Then I was really psyched. I was ecstatic."

WWF stars Chyna, Triple H, The Undertaker and Stone Cold Steve Austin called Davey.

WWF star Mankind visited him. "I thought to myself: This is where I belong, where I started. With Vince," recalls Davey.

Davey signed the deal last month but kept quiet until now.

In July, Vince sent first-class tickets to Davey and his wife Diana.

A limo took them to their suite at the New York City's Waldorf-Astoria Hotel.

At lunch the next day, the deal was done.

"I felt like a bloody movie star," says Davey, who is counting the days to his first match -- expected to be Sept. 20.

"If you put yourself down, you stay down.

"I get back up. If I can't perform, then I'll hang up my tights and burn my boots.

"But it will not happen. No way. I mean it. No way."

And, in that very moment, Davey once again takes on all the doubters, the critics, the WCW, and yes, even Bret Hart.



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« Reply #54 on: August 12, 2009, 11:53:24 AM »
The following article/interview appeared in the Aug. 24th 1999 edition of the Calgary Sun. It discusses the details of Davey Boy Smith’s WWF return following Owen Hart’s fatal accident, and Bret Hart’s reaction:




It's Rocky and Family Feud all wrapped in one.

Davey Boy Smith, the 35-year-old wrestler the world calls The British Bulldog, returns to the ring next month.

He's inked a five-year, multi-million dollar deal with Vince McMahon's World Wrestling Federation.

Still, with all that, Davey is angry.

Angry at those who thought he was all washed up.

Angry at the WWF's rival, World Championship Wrestling, which fired him months ago as he lay in hospital.

Angry at brother-in-law Bret Hart, who dragged Davey through the dirt when Davey vowed to wrestle again.

"I'm really psyched. My strength is ungodly. I feel I could run through a wall," says Davey, in his first interview with the press since his signing a few weeks ago.

"I baffled the doctors. There were the doubters who said I was all washed up.
"There were those who said the Bulldog was a lazy, fat slob.

"There were some people in my own family who were hoping I wouldn't come back.

"But I said: I'll show you all. And I'll show Bret. When I really get mad, I get furious. Make me motivated and I'll go for it. I'm not afraid of anyone. If Bret's got a problem with me, he knows where I live."

When this column informed the public of Davey's comeback in July, Bret used his Sun column to slam Davey.

"Saw a strange sight yesterday. Dogs rolling in manure and loving every minute of it.

"For some reason, it made me think of how the British Bulldog will do anything to work for the WWF," wrote Bret.

"There were these four little pigs in the pig races. The guy there told me they'd sell out their mothers and brothers and sisters to the slaughterhouse, just for those mini donuts. Kind of reminds me of ... er ... I won't go there this week," Bret also wisecracked.

Davey can't understand Bret. Davey does not think his comeback is in any way defiling the memory of Owen Hart, who died in a WWF match earlier this year.

"Why does Bret attack me? What have I done to him except stick by him? I can't figure out why. He even called my wife on the phone and said: If I see you on the street, I'll run you over, you..."

The rest cannot be printed in a family newspaper.

"I'm really angry at Bret. I went with him to the WCW. I paid a $100,000 fine to leave the WWF. I was backing Bret up. I felt responsible for what happened to Bret, when he lost his belt.

"After all that, he nails me. When I was let go, who the hell backed me up?"

"Why should I leave what I love for one person? Does Bret expect me to sit at home and do nothing the rest of my life? Does he want me to lose everything just to satisfy him? I refuse to do that.

"What happened to Owen is tragic but there is nothing I can do about it. Vince did not push Owen."

Six days a week down at B.J.'s Gym, Davey shakes aside all the naysayers and keeps his eye on the prize.

He diets like crazy and sweats like crazy to get down to his fighting weight of 245 lbs.

There is something in the heart and guts of this former delivery boy from the English town of Golborne, near Manchester.

Something that will not say no.

The way back amazes even Davey.

Davey smashes his back against a trap door in the ring a year ago.

He gets hooked on painkillers and enters rehab.

Three discs in his back dissolve in a sea of infection.

Doctors say his career is through.

His sister dies. His mom dies. Owen, his brother-in-law and one-time tag-team partner, dies.

But he does not give up.

The road to his new contract begins in April with Davey in a bed at the Rockyview Hospital. His back battered, his wrestling career seemingly over.

It was then Vince McMahon called. Davey and Vince joke around. Vince asks about Davey's back.

"Six specialists tell me I'll never wrestle again but Vince told me: 'If anyone can do it, you can do it.' Then I was really psyched. I was ecstatic."

WWF stars Chyna, Triple H, The Undertaker and Stone Cold Steve Austin called Davey.

WWF star Mankind visited him. "I thought to myself: This is where I belong, where I started. With Vince," recalls Davey.

Davey signed the deal last month but kept quiet until now.

In July, Vince sent first-class tickets to Davey and his wife Diana.

A limo took them to their suite at the New York City's Waldorf-Astoria Hotel.

At lunch the next day, the deal was done.

"I felt like a bloody movie star," says Davey, who is counting the days to his first match -- expected to be Sept. 20.

"If you put yourself down, you stay down.

"I get back up. If I can't perform, then I'll hang up my tights and burn my boots.

"But it will not happen. No way. I mean it. No way."

And, in that very moment, Davey once again takes on all the doubters, the critics, the WCW, and yes, even Bret Hart.



Well, don't forget that Davey was married to Bret Hart's sister. Their divorce caused all the termoil. Davey cheaton Hart's sister with Hart's other sister (fucked as it maay seem). This tore the relationship between Hart and his sisters apart. How would you react if someone banged your sister and then banged another broad and caused termoil in your family?

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Re: British Bulldogs Thread:
« Reply #55 on: August 12, 2009, 08:59:55 PM »
Well, don't forget that Davey was married to Bret Hart's sister. Their divorce caused all the termoil. Davey cheaton Hart's sister with Hart's other sister (fucked as it maay seem). This tore the relationship between Hart and his sisters apart. How would you react if someone banged your sister and then banged another broad and caused termoil in your family?

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In July, Vince sent first-class tickets to Davey and his wife Diana.

A limo took them to their suite at the New York City's Waldorf-Astoria Hotel.

At lunch the next day, the deal was done.


Yes, I'm not contending that the inter-family tension was unjustified, but it appears as though Bret lashed out about Davey's WWF return before the bigger soap opera errupted.

Even Stu publicly commended Smith on the move:
http://slam.canoe.ca/SlamWrestlingBritishBulldog/bulldog_99jul5.html

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Calgary's wrestling patriarch said he wouldn't want to hold Davey Boy Smith back from entering the ring again -- even after the tragic death of Owen Hart.

"It'd be like telling a hockey player like Wayne Gretzky to find another vocation. 'All I can do is play hockey,' " said Stu Hart.

That's even after the May 23 death of Owen Hart -- Smith's brother-in-law and Hart's son -- who fell while attempting a dramatic entrance to the ring in a Missouri arena.

Hart said he wasn't surprised to learn that Smith wants to return to wrestling.

"I don't know what the hell (Smith) could do if he doesn't go back," said Hart. "There's nothing that could compete with that."

Davey was no angel, but I’ve got to agree with his and Stu’s stance.
Really, Davey paid out of pocket to follow Bret to WCW – even Bret’s own brother Owen didn’t do that.
Davey got hurt and was released from WCW.
What exactly would Bret like him to do?


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Re: British Bulldogs Thread:
« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2009, 04:43:55 AM »


Yes, I'm not contending that the inter-family tension was unjustified, but it appears as though Bret lashed out about Davey's WWF return before the bigger soap opera errupted.

Even Stu publicly commended Smith on the move:
http://slam.canoe.ca/SlamWrestlingBritishBulldog/bulldog_99jul5.html

Davey was no angel, but I’ve got to agree with his and Stu’s stance.
Really, Davey paid out of pocket to follow Bret to WCW – even Bret’s own brother Owen didn’t do that.
Davey got hurt and was released from WCW.
What exactly would Bret like him to do?


Owen didn't leave because he was still contracted to the WWE. Davey left out of his own reconisance and had his lawyer negotiate him a 100,000 dollar release fee.

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Re: British Bulldogs Thread:
« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2009, 07:23:49 PM »
Well, isn’t this sweet?
After all their differences Bret Hart publicly admits just who he feels is the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be:


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Re: British Bulldogs Thread:
« Reply #58 on: August 31, 2009, 05:05:35 AM »
Bret Hart was definately one of the best performers of all time. People can say what they want about him but its the truth.

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« Reply #59 on: August 31, 2009, 05:32:04 AM »
I agree.
I also believe he was very full of himself, but most of the top guys were/are. Besides, his ego & behavior pale in comparison to the Hellwig’s and Nash’s.
At least Bret was respectful and polite to coworkers and fans.

I don’t know when this interview took place, but I was surprised to hear him say what he did about Billington.


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« Reply #60 on: August 31, 2009, 06:29:00 AM »
I agree.
I also believe he was very full of himself, but most of the top guys were/are. Besides, his ego & behavior pale in comparison to the Hellwig’s and Nash’s.
At least Bret was respectful and polite to coworkers and fans.

I don’t know when this interview took place, but I was surprised to hear him say what he did about Billington.


Billington is definately a loose cannon. The guy had a shot gun to his first wife's head back in the early 90's.

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« Reply #61 on: August 31, 2009, 03:26:41 PM »
Did you view that clip from the Benoit case I posted a few months ago?
They interviewed Tom & his ex-wife Michelle.
She talked about the shotgun incident, and later in the segment he confirmed it!
He then followed up by saying he was never violent, and that the shotgun under the chin was unloaded.

Shit. I guess that makes everything okay, then.
I wonder what she’s all worked up about.
 ::) ;D


I actually saw that program with my girlfriend the night it originally aired. We came across it accidentally while flipping channels.
Imagine my surprise when, while channel-surfing, finding Dynamite Billington being interviewed from his wheelchair at his posh public housing complex near Manchester. 

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« Reply #62 on: September 01, 2009, 07:17:17 AM »
Did you view that clip from the Benoit case I posted a few months ago?
They interviewed Tom & his ex-wife Michelle.
She talked about the shotgun incident, and later in the segment he confirmed it!
He then followed up by saying he was never violent, and that the shotgun under the chin was unloaded.

Shit. I guess that makes everything okay, then.
I wonder what she’s all worked up about.
 ::) ;D


I actually saw that program with my girlfriend the night it originally aired. We came across it accidentally while flipping channels.
Imagine my surprise when, while channel-surfing, finding Dynamite Billington being interviewed from his wheelchair at his posh public housing complex near Manchester. 

Yup...lol, "I had a shot gun to her chin, but it didn't have any shells."
That was pretty intense. How did he let himself get like that. 250 thousand dollars a year for 8 years with the wwe plus all his Japan work and Stampede work. How the hell did he wind up so broke? Kinda makes one wonder....

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« Reply #63 on: September 01, 2009, 09:47:15 AM »
From reading the book, it sounded like he left everything he’d made (up to that point) to Michelle and their kids.
He claims he returned home to Lancashire as broke as when he left for Calgary as a teenager.

I don’t think he did much after that.
He did some work for Stew just prior to the divorce, but that was peanuts.
IIRC, after returning to Manchester Baba used him a couple of times – some of them in a “special guest” capacity – for his old tour rate, but that money would have run out way before now, even living well under his means.

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« Reply #64 on: September 01, 2009, 10:25:43 AM »
From reading the book, it sounded like he left everything he’d made (up to that point) to Michelle and their kids.
He claims he returned home to Lancashire as broke as when he left for Calgary as a teenager.

I don’t think he did much after that.
He did some work for Stew just prior to the divorce, but that was peanuts.
IIRC, after returning to Manchester Baba used him a couple of times – some of them in a “special guest” capacity – for his old tour rate, but that money would have run out way before now, even living well under his means.

I'd love to see on pen and paper what his AAS intake was. I know he did a lot of EQ and injectable d-bol plus God knows what else. He was big and ripped in the eighties.

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« Reply #65 on: September 01, 2009, 12:18:41 PM »
I think it was one of his tours for All Japan with Davie – it was the best I’ve ever seen him look.
He was more huge & ripped than I can remember him at any other time in his career.

He literally looked like he was less than 2 weeks out from stepping on an NPC stage.

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« Reply #66 on: September 01, 2009, 12:49:35 PM »
I think it was one of his tours for All Japan with Davie – it was the best I’ve ever seen him look.
He was more huge & ripped than I can remember him at any other time in his career.

He literally looked like he was less than 2 weeks out from stepping on an NPC stage.

Speed to wake up, steroids gallore, hit the gym, go to the show, 3 percocets before the show, muscle relaxants after the show, beer & cocaine and 3 percocets before bed. Typical day in the life of the dynamite kid. And no this is not a joke.

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« Reply #67 on: September 03, 2009, 04:44:00 PM »
Here's an old TNT clip that aired shortly before the Bulldog's title win against The Dream Team at WM II:


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« Reply #68 on: September 04, 2009, 04:55:25 AM »
Here's an old TNT clip that aired shortly before the Bulldog's title win against The Dream Team at WM II:


Nice clip..brings back memories.

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« Reply #69 on: September 04, 2009, 05:42:06 AM »
You’ve read the book so I know you already know this, but for the other 3 people who read this thread…
 :)

I’ve gotta hand it to Dynamite. If it wasn’t for his assertiveness, the Bulldogs may not have become tag champs – at least not at WM II.

Both cousins were still going strong in Japan at that time.
Typical Vince wanted them to work only for him, but he didn’t want the tag titles to change hands at Mania (from Beefcake & Valentine).

Vince booked Dyno & Davey for WM, but wouldn’t give them a bigger push without a contract.
Billington didn’t want him & Smith to be used in that capacity and basically told Vince they’d be going back to Japan after Mania.

Well, Vince agreed to give them the belts & a main event push, but only if they signed a contract and worked only for WWF. The rest is history.

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« Reply #70 on: September 04, 2009, 12:45:27 PM »
You’ve read the book so I know you already know this, but for the other 3 people who read this thread…
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I’ve gotta hand it to Dynamite. If it wasn’t for his assertiveness, the Bulldogs may not have become tag champs – at least not at WM II.

Both cousins were still going strong in Japan at that time.
Typical Vince wanted them to work only for him, but he didn’t want the tag titles to change hands at Mania (from Beefcake & Valentine).

Vince booked Dyno & Davey for WM, but wouldn’t give them a bigger push without a contract.
Billington didn’t want him & Smith to be used in that capacity and basically told Vince they’d be going back to Japan after Mania.

Well, Vince agreed to give them the belts & a main event push, but only if they signed a contract and worked only for WWF. The rest is history.

I remember reading this. Very interesting stuff and billington was way more street smart then davey boy smith.

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« Reply #71 on: September 04, 2009, 08:52:40 PM »
I remember reading this. Very interesting stuff and billington was way more street smart then davey boy smith.

No question.

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Re: British Bulldogs Thread:
« Reply #72 on: September 06, 2009, 08:49:28 AM »
Listen to the audience laugh at Dustin Rhodes @ the 2:00 mark, when he delivers a piss-poor elbow from the second rope.

Japanese fans appreciate good wrestling, but they also demand it.
Rhodes wasn’t even jumping from the top rope to begin with.
Then when he does jump, he lands squarely on his feet and then falls with the elbow.
Japan is not the place to work like that.

Davey also growing well into the “pre-Whoopi Goldberg” mullet.


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« Reply #73 on: September 08, 2009, 05:05:19 AM »
Listen to the audience laugh at Dustin Rhodes @ the 2:00 mark, when he delivers a piss-poor elbow from the second rope.

Japanese fans appreciate good wrestling, but they also demand it.
Rhodes wasn’t even jumping from the top rope to begin with.
Then when he does jump, he lands squarely on his feet and then falls with the elbow.
Japan is not the place to work like that.

Davey also growing well into the “pre-Whoopi Goldberg” mullet.


Holy Christ...I could have dropped a better elbow than that. That was embarassing.

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« Reply #74 on: September 10, 2009, 04:57:38 PM »
One of the biggest criticisms regarding Davey is that he was always more of a follower in the ring - never much of a leader.
 
Here’s a match from the program he worked with the Warlord back in the early 90’s. I think it shows Davey’s ability to adapt to his opponents’ strengths AND weaknesses. And being that Smith was the more experienced & talented of the two, I would attribute more of the match's success rate to him than Warlord (sorry, W).

Warlord was an impressive physical spectacle, but he had some obvious limitations in the ring. Davey worked with both to partake in what I thought was a pretty good match.
Besides, if their chemistry was that bad, Vince would have shit-canned the angle well before WM.