can you verify that they really did use 100 mgs of primo or deca per week plus 15 mgs of dbol or winny?
platz said he used 100 deca and 15 winny
zane said 100 primo and 15 dbol
mentzer said 200 deca every 10 days and 20-25 dbol
also platz and padilla said they ate high carb lowish protien for the 1981 O
padilla said 80-110 protein with high carbs
and zane said he ate 200 protien and 50 carbs pre-contest
are those diets also verified?
But if you just think logically, they made these claims when anyone could get a precription and these would be the doses a doctor would prescribe. Furthermore all these guys no doubt were thinking "of the children," like we don't want the children to get hurt, a sort of a do-gooder argument. Plus these doses might be something they legitimately ran as beginners or even as sometimes as a bridge in the off season. But you can imagine when precontest rolls around especially
everyone starts to panic sort of and
everyone is likely thinking of the what the competition is doing plus the stakes with a potentially legacy defining contest as the Mr O, so the doses
will escalate. They also no doubt heard the stories of Grymkowski taking a whole bottle of orals with a meal, so a hundred milligrams or whatever of orals would surely not kill you, you know what I mean. Furthermore many have said at some seminar Q and A sessions guys like Platz copped to s hundred mg of orals or whatever. One guy on professionalmuscle going by the name of Rex Feral said Platz actually recommended to him, a competitor, 200mg mg of Deca or Durabolin, I forget which, PER DAY. And then you look at what Platz's face and ankles looked like and that type of dosing sounds very plausible. You know that guy who alledges Mentzer wanted to have gay sex with him and who alledges he drove Mentzer to crack houses before workouts to cop some meth, he say when he trained with Mentzer, after his competitive career they would both do 3 amps of Durabolin (NPP) 3 times per week and nothing else so that's 900mg of nandrolone per week so if the guy is honest Mentzer surely was already familiar with that type of dosing, don't you agree? At the same time I aldo believe I can tell these guys were not getting absolutely everything out of the AAS, they were taking maybe 1/10 - 1/20 as much as the guys today for the most part.
I'm answering you seriously which no doubt pisses of joswift to no end, I know
but this is my serious thoughts which I think are logical and rational.
The actually looked good in some of his photos...some not so good. My guess is that he would have looked similar if he would cut his doses in half. Especially the tren..there's absolutely no reason to run 400mg of tren a wk ever
MY guess is he would have gotten the same or even better results with 1/10th of the dose or even less, as his body was no doubt very toxic and fighting the drugs only probably getting WORSE as a consequence. If I was asked for advice by him, which he wouldn't do anyway with me being a nobody, and he wasn't listening to advice from any of the guys he was actually PMing, I would have had him drop the orals and everything especially toxic, just a very modest AAS dose, to rely on the way less toxic peptides. I also know I don't even take my own advice, I see a bit of him in myself tbh, some guys aren't coachable, like myself I think but a lot of times it's good to be coachable as an outsider can often be way, way more objective. I would surely listen very seriously to many coaches but I think I would like to be in ultimate control and I would probably delude myself into thinking I know best. There are many like us, many pros are like this which is why some of them hire a coach but at the same time ask for advice from half a dozen other guys, then don't do what the primary coach tells them but lie to him saying they do. One coach thought he was coaching Hunter Labrada for the O, not knowing Hunter had someone else do his final prep. A few gurus say they stopped coaching bb males altogether for this very reason.
For those interested, here's a fresh example of drama. This guy Patrick Tuor, a top coach nowadays, or not, depending on who you ask, denying Milos ever actually coached him. I take Milos' side. Milos is mighty pissed but from what I've seen Milos isn't a liar.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C589rZxOazA/?igsh=MTd2bGcwaHg1Nmhxaw==
