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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #175 on: December 01, 2021, 02:17:51 PM »
Does anybody else just feel 90% of the people are just insane at this point going along with all this gobbledegook not using any independent thought or logic? It’s like the country is an asylum but it’s being run by the patients.
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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #176 on: December 01, 2021, 02:21:44 PM »
So you get the vaxx and a free blowjob. Great way to spread some real STD


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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #177 on: December 01, 2021, 02:37:48 PM »
Does anybody else just feel 90% of the people are just insane at this point going along with all this gobbledegook not using any independent thought or logic? It’s like the country is an asylum but it’s being run by the patients.

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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #178 on: December 01, 2021, 04:01:09 PM »
Moderna CEO says vaccines likely less effective against Omicron - FT

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He had earlier said on CNBC that it could take months to begin shipping a vaccine that does work against Omicron.

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Omicron poses very high global risk, world must prepare -WHO

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Sen. Ted Cruz brands Fauci 'the most dangerous bureaucrat in the history of America' and says COVID tsar's gain-of-function contradictions could land him in PRISON for five years

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S.African doctors say patients with Omicron variant have "very mild" symptoms

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Variants with milder symptoms are a plus for those who get sick. It is a negative for lessening the spread of the virus, i.e. herd immunity.

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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #179 on: December 01, 2021, 04:23:58 PM »
Does anybody else just feel 90% of the people are just insane at this point going along with all this gobbledegook not using any independent thought or logic? It’s like the country is an asylum but it’s being run by the patients.

I’m in New York City and the reality of what I see on the street has absolutely no relationship to what you hear from the media. Crowded as fuck. Traffic worse than ever. Construction projects everywhere. The only way you would know that Covid even happened is the stupid fucking masks.

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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #180 on: December 01, 2021, 04:29:01 PM »
Communism is such a harsh word. It will probably be called world equity standard or something like that.

People will be equally poor and not in control of the capital ... AKA communism.  ;D

A giant economic crash needs to happen quick. Honestly that is the only thing that is going to wake the other half the USA up.

'Sanitary fascism'

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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #181 on: December 01, 2021, 04:32:22 PM »
I’m in New York City and the reality of what I see on the street has absolutely no relationship to what you hear from the media. Crowded as fuck. Traffic worse than ever. Construction projects everywhere. The only way you would know that Covid even happened is the stupid fucking masks.

I suspect most people are fed up with the confinement and willing to takes some risks at this point. The more 'breaktough' cases and the more new variants, the more many people will say 'fuck it' and just get on with their lives. It's a quality of life verses quantity type of thing.

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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #182 on: December 01, 2021, 05:11:55 PM »
Does anybody else just feel 90% of the people are just insane at this point going along with all this gobbledegook not using any independent thought or logic? It’s like the country is an asylum but it’s being run by the patients.
100%.  It's like the country is run by a bunch of irrational Facebook moms.  When the delta variant hospitalizations came out for children and they were 1 in 4-5k, rational people were like wow, that's really low and good news.  Irrational white women were like, OMG that could be my child!

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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #183 on: December 01, 2021, 06:18:12 PM »
Does anybody else just feel 90% of the people are just insane at this point going along with all this gobbledegook not using any independent thought or logic? It’s like the country is an asylum but it’s being run by the patients.

it's 90% of the people online, or california. at least in nyc this insanity isn't a thing, you'll see mask on public transport

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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #184 on: December 01, 2021, 06:34:40 PM »
Variants with milder symptoms are a plus for those who get sick. It is a negative for lessening the spread of the virus, i.e. herd immunity.

It's a positive for herd immunity.

Many more get it and survive, and then have natural immunity.
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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #185 on: December 01, 2021, 07:27:51 PM »
Thankfully this virus seems to be following the path of most viruses, which is more contagious but less virulent, so herd immunity should happen as the variants are becoming less deadly. Will be the common cold by next Christmas.  It's still important to get to China and figure out where this virus came from, because they are basing vaccines on the behavior or other coronaviruses, and if this was man made it could have characteristics that do not follow traditional virus patterns, which we have already seen.  So it theoretically could evade immune response from vaccines with new variants. This has not been proven, and is unlikely, but it is still very important to know where and how this virus came about to combat it and create safe and effective vaccines. Why there is not full blown, worldwide pressure on China to reveal what the fuck happened in Wuhan is outrageous worldwide corruption. We're creating vaccines without the full knowledge of the origins of the virus, which is essentially using humans as guinea pigs. I'm not arguing against vaccines, I'm vaccinated, but for safety and efficacy reasons of the vaccines we HAVE to demand China reveal what the fuck happened, regardless of who it implicates. This is WAR type shit with what it did to America.

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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #186 on: December 01, 2021, 07:44:11 PM »
Thankfully this virus seems to be following the path of most viruses, which is more contagious but less virulent, so herd immunity should happen as the variants are becoming less deadly. Will be the common cold by next Christmas.  It's still important to get to China and figure out where this virus came from, because they are basing vaccines on the behavior or other coronaviruses, and if this was man made it could have characteristics that do not follow traditional virus patterns, which we have already seen.  So it theoretically could evade immune response from vaccines with new variants. This has not been proven, and is unlikely, but it is still very important to know where and how this virus came about to combat it and create safe and effective vaccines. Why there is not full blown, worldwide pressure on China to reveal what the fuck happened in Wuhan is outrageous worldwide corruption. We're creating vaccines without the full knowledge of the origins of the virus, which is essentially using humans as guinea pigs. I'm not arguing against vaccines, I'm vaccinated, but for safety and efficacy reasons of the vaccines we HAVE to demand China reveal what the fuck happened, regardless of who it implicates. This is WAR type shit with what it did to America.



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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #187 on: December 01, 2021, 08:15:20 PM »
It's a positive for herd immunity.

Many more get it and survive, and then have natural immunity.

Where's the guarantee if you get a particular variant of COVID, you have natural immunity, either to that one or future variants? And if you do, how do you know how long the immunity lasts?

Some people get the flu again and again, same with colds. Even though many folks have flu vaccines and maybe pneumonia shots every year, they sometimes still catch the viruses.

Bottom line is there are no guarantees. Anyone can become ill, despite that they've taken every precaution medical science has to offer.

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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #188 on: December 01, 2021, 08:32:29 PM »
If you are worried about the "omicron variant" you are FUBAR, lol.
https://twitter.com/KoenSwinkels/status/1465906474270531589/photo/1


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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #190 on: December 02, 2021, 06:39:44 AM »
Where's the guarantee if you get a particular variant of COVID, you have natural immunity, either to that one or future variants? And if you do, how do you know how long the immunity lasts?

Some people get the flu again and again, same with colds. Even though many folks have flu vaccines and maybe pneumonia shots every year, they sometimes still catch the viruses.

Bottom line is there are no guarantees. Anyone can become ill, despite that they've taken every precaution medical science has to offer.

There's no guarantee but that's pretty much how our species has worked forever.  You may not be able to avoid getting a new variant, but the body learns how to combat it which can lessen the symptoms, or make them invisible.  That's how herd immunity happened before vaccines were invented.

As for how long the immunity lasts, there are people who have been tested that still have antibodies over a year after having covid.  There seems to be a weird resistance to the natural immunity reality, as this context is generally ignored in many articles pertaining to the vaccine.  Either way, it seems  to last longer than the vaccine, given you're already in boosterville.

Given the political nature of all this, if natural immunity wasn't a viable thing, you'd be seeing tons for reports of the unvaccinated requiring multiple hospitalizations, and that's not happening.
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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #191 on: December 02, 2021, 07:45:24 AM »
Where's the guarantee if you get a particular variant of COVID, you have natural immunity, either to that one or... stupid cunt

Because despite what cretins such as you believe, novel viruses dont simply spring up in organic fashion 'one day just because'.

Coronaviruses have been around for untold time. The human body is both used to and has evolved to deal with them, thus, oddly enough they've never been an issue, and still aren't if your unvaccinated.

The problem begins once you vaccinate an individual with a particular, synthetic and novel strain.

Because of original antigenic sin, to the healthy unvaccinated (and more so their biological immune response that evolved to fight pathogenic attack across hundreds of thousands years) a coronavirus mutation is not an issue. The unvaccinated, quite unlike the vaccinated, are never exposed to new synthetic strains in synthetic fashion.

By comparison, the vaccinated (of whom did have perfectly functional immune systems until they were vaccinated) have been exposed to specific and novel synthetic strains quite alien to the immune system and of which their compromised immune response is in no way capable of dealing with.

As is noted in the trade, original antigenic sin is the double edged sword of immunological memory. If left to do its job as per evolved function, the unvaccinated are fine, exposed to a highly transmissible yet harmless and naturally occurring coronavirus and thus developing the subsequent herd immunity said exposure confers.

None of the new variants are organic, they're quite synthetic and the vaccinated are exposed to them via the vaccination process and subsequent antibody escape. Selection pressure is removed and the corona strain at that point has no reason to become less deadly thus evolves to become more deadly... all because of an over zealous vaccination program and the dumb bastards whom subscribe to it.

None of the new strains are naturally occurring organic mutations, they're systematically arising in a step by step fashion via antibody escape and vaccine boosters in the exact fashion Mareks disease arose in vaccinated chickens.

Thus thereafter exists a subsequent and deadly situation whereby because of antigenic sin, the immune system of a vaccinated subject is now primed to fight the (and only the) mutant strain but will falter when exposed to subsequent future mutations arising from rapid antigenic evolution.

The healthy unvaccinated population are and will be fine though. The unvaccinated will require vaccination for life, many of you will die along with many obese, immunologically compromised unhealthy unvacvinayed.

You'll require 'boosters' for life, and I hope you die.

You'll blame the vaccinated, but no, you've been conned, because you're fucking stupid

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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #192 on: December 02, 2021, 08:00:59 AM »
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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #193 on: December 02, 2021, 08:14:45 AM »
Does anybody else just feel 90% of the people are just insane at this point going along with all this gobbledegook not using any independent thought or logic? It’s like the country is an asylum but it’s being run by the patients.

Yes..but there is that 10% of us that aren't so insane that we'd risk our immediate or long term health and maybe even death to take it

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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #194 on: December 02, 2021, 08:25:54 AM »
Not sure if he was vaccinated, but he died of blood clots.

https://www.tmz.com/2021/12/02/eddie-mekka-laverne-shirley-carmine-dead-dies/

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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #195 on: December 02, 2021, 09:20:32 AM »
There's no guarantee but that's pretty much how our species has worked forever.  You may not be able to avoid getting a new variant, but the body learns how to combat it which can lessen the symptoms, or make them invisible.  That's how herd immunity happened before vaccines were invented.

As for how long the immunity lasts, there are people who have been tested that still have antibodies over a year after having covid.  There seems to be a weird resistance to the natural immunity reality, as this context is generally ignored in many articles pertaining to the vaccine.  Either way, it seems  to last longer than the vaccine, given you're already in boosterville.

Given the political nature of all this, if natural immunity wasn't a viable thing, you'd be seeing tons for reports of the unvaccinated requiring multiple hospitalizations, and that's not happening.

It depends on the source whether unvaccinated are more, the same, or less likely to require hospitalizations with COVID and COVID Delta. What I've read is that Omicron tends to be milder which is in line with your post regarding herd immunity. Of course Omicron hasn't been known about long enough to know what it does. I've read articles that say natural immunity doesn't last as long as vaccinated immunity. In truth, I don't think science knows one way or the other because COVID is still in it infancy. It is all guesswork.

Yes, I am playing it safe an taking every precaution to avoid COVID and it's variants. So here I am in 'boosterville' and fortunately still COVID free. I don't believe I am at a high risk of getting it because despite having a couple of strikes against me, mainly age, asthma and a history of pneumonia which precedes the time I started the pneumonia vaccines. Seems as if that one works...at least in my case.

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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #196 on: December 02, 2021, 09:27:57 AM »
Because despite what cretins such as you believe, novel viruses dont simply spring up in organic fashion 'one day just because'.

Coronaviruses have been around for untold time. The human body is both used to and has evolved to deal with them, thus, oddly enough they've never been an issue, and still aren't if your unvaccinated.

The problem begins once you vaccinate an individual with a particular, synthetic and novel strain.

Because of original antigenic sin, to the healthy unvaccinated (and more so their biological immune response that evolved to fight pathogenic attack across hundreds of thousands years) a coronavirus mutation is not an issue. The unvaccinated, quite unlike the vaccinated, are never exposed to new synthetic strains in synthetic fashion.

By comparison, the vaccinated (of whom did have perfectly functional immune systems until they were vaccinated) have been exposed to specific and novel synthetic strains quite alien to the immune system and of which their compromised immune response is in no way capable of dealing with.

As is noted in the trade, original antigenic sin is the double edged sword of immunological memory. If left to do its job as per evolved function, the unvaccinated are fine, exposed to a highly transmissible yet harmless and naturally occurring coronavirus and thus developing the subsequent herd immunity said exposure confers.

None of the new variants are organic, they're quite synthetic and the vaccinated are exposed to them via the vaccination process and subsequent antibody escape. Selection pressure is removed and the corona strain at that point has no reason to become less deadly thus evolves to become more deadly... all because of an over zealous vaccination program and the dumb bastards whom subscribe to it.

None of the new strains are naturally occurring organic mutations, they're systematically arising in a step by step fashion via antibody escape and vaccine boosters in the exact fashion Mareks disease arose in vaccinated chickens.

Thus thereafter exists a subsequent and deadly situation whereby because of antigenic sin, the immune system of a vaccinated subject is now primed to fight the (and only the) mutant strain but will falter when exposed to subsequent future mutations arising from rapid antigenic evolution.

The healthy unvaccinated population are and will be fine though. The unvaccinated will require vaccination for life, many of you will die along with many obese, immunologically compromised unhealthy unvacvinayed.

You'll require 'boosters' for life, and I hope you die.

You'll blame the vaccinated, but no, you've been conned, because you're fucking stupid

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The pile of mumbo jumbo you've written is impressive except if it is correct, explain why unvaccinated folks contract COVID, get seriously ill with it, and die at a much higher rate than those who have been vaccinated

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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #197 on: December 02, 2021, 09:31:18 AM »
Does anybody else just feel 90% of the people are just insane at this point going along with all this gobbledegook not using any independent thought or logic? It’s like the country is an asylum but it’s being run by the patients.

I think you mean the world. COVID is worldwide. People are vaccinated worldwide. Read what's currently going on in Europe and South America in response to the Omicron variant. As old and new restrictions are being imposed, folks are actively protesting (rioting).

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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #198 on: December 02, 2021, 09:37:08 AM »
Yes..but there is that 10% of us that aren't so insane that we'd risk our immediate or long term health and maybe even death to take it

In Greece the government is fining folks who don't get vaccinated. With the spread of the Omicron variant, much of Europe and some of South America is literally going crazy with restrictions. When this variant hits the states, expect a similar response. The unvaccinated will become 'the enemy'. Folks are, fed up with restrictions and they are blaming the unvaccinated as well as the governments for them. 

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Re: New covid omicron variant
« Reply #199 on: December 02, 2021, 09:43:06 AM »
It depends on the source whether unvaccinated are more, the same, or less likely to require hospitalizations with COVID and COVID Delta. What I've read is that Omicron tends to be milder which is in line with your post regarding herd immunity. Of course Omicron hasn't been known about long enough to know what it does. I've read articles that say natural immunity doesn't last as long as vaccinated immunity. In truth, I don't think science knows one way or the other because COVID is still in it infancy. It is all guesswork.

Yes, I am playing it safe an taking every precaution to avoid COVID and it's variants. So here I am in 'boosterville' and fortunately still COVID free. I don't believe I am at a high risk of getting it because despite having a couple of strikes against me, mainly age, asthma and a history of pneumonia which precedes the time I started the pneumonia vaccines. Seems as if that one works...at least in my case.

I think you SHOULD be doing all that.

My argument all along is that this isn't a one size fits all solution.

Compromised, high risk should get vaccinated.

Healthy low risk can make their choice.

No on kids.

The problem is that the government won't lay all the facts out on the table, both upsides, downsides, natural immunity, and all the data.  They push the vaccine narrative, and basically ignore everything else. This creates more distrust.
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